August 30th, 2009

Ronald Reagan Campaigns Against Obamacare

From beyond the grave:


156 Comments

  1. 1
    Tachybaptus says:

    Why the percussion solo in the background? Makes the speech unlistenable to. A pity, as it might have made sense without.

    • 6
      Zealous Born Again Man-made Global Warming Believer says:

      I’ve heard this same speech, pronounced in the early 1960s on radio before even the man’s election to the Californian governorship as a Republican (he was very popular, easily re-elected and the state prospered financially under his direction). There should be many other copies on the internet without the maddening music which, I agree, renders the monologue confusing and indiscernible.

      Great pity, because otherwise his speech is exceedingly persuasive, eloquent and memorable.

      • 8
        THE THIRD ROUNDEL says:

        Beilliant speech. Brilliant Man. Greatly missed.

        • 35
          MI6 says:

          Yeah,, he was a great actor like Blair.

        • 38
          MI6 says:

          I forgot. Was it not Reagan that allowed the CIA to distribute Cocaine around the world while using the Cash to buy Arms in IRAN and give them to Terrorists so that military intervention could be made in South America? Lets get real he was a great actor like all the actors who have taken his place. They all act to a Script not written by them.

        • 42
          Cato Street Conspirator says:

          He was an absolute cretin, a front man with a few cliches to throw to the crowd. ‘For the Reagan-Gorbachev Washington summit, she (Nancy Reagan’s astrologer) cast the charts of both men and determined that 2 p.m. on Dec. 8, 1987, was the most propitious moment for them to sign the intermediate-range nuclear forces treaty. At Nancy’s behest, the entire summit was built around that hour. For the upcoming Moscow summit, Gorbachev’s chart (he is a Pisces) has been recast alongside Reagan’s (Aquarius).’

        • 49
          T U Carter says:

          Margaret Thatcher had the measure of him: ‘Poor dear, there’s nothing between his ears.’ As in so many things she was bang on the money.

        • 58
          Phil O'Pastree says:

          This “cretin” brought down the tyranny of the Soviet Union.

        • 88

          did’nt he also murder Colonel Gaddafi daughter when he sent US jets to bomb Libya?

        • 90
          Hugo Chavez - Venezuelan Hollyoakes Heart-throb says:

          “I forgot. Was it not Reagan that allowed the CIA to distribute Cocaine around the world while using the Cash to buy Arms in IRAN and give them to Terrorists so that military intervention could be made in South America?”

          Yeah! 1980s Latin America under Sociliast oligarchs was an earthly paradise with deepening poverty, moribund commerce, despotism and wholesale exterminations of rural villagers for everyone!

          Lastly, I’m would like to say how marvellous it is Mr Foot that even at age 1,092 (according to Wikipedia) you haven’t abandoned the barricades. Onward Revolution!

        • 143
          Call me Infidel says:

          “did’nt he also murder Colonel Gaddafi daughter when he sent US jets to bomb Libya?”

          Yes there was some collateral damage. Pity he didn’t send the F111′s back to finish the job though.

      • 9
        Anonymous says:

        Reagan was the greatest. An intellectual giant and a great crusader aganist communism and its watered-down western versions. Populist and creative = this is the real model Cameron should be following.

        • 11
          Anonymous says:

          GOD BLESS AMERICA AND TRUE CONSERVATISM. WAKE UP CAMERON! BRITAIN NEEDS A REAGAN!

        • 12
          THE THIRD ROUNDEL says:

          Agreed. Reagan is the ideal model for Cameron to follow.

        • 14
          Anonymous says:

          Reagan`s portrait should be on the American Half Dollar coin, not Kennedy`s.

        • 23
          THE THIRD ROUNDEL says:

          And what is more the Reagan-Thatcher axis saved the world and brought about the fall of communism. Remember `The Right Stuff` poster! Cameron publicity department please note!

        • 24
          Anonymous says:

          I thought Gordon Brown had saved the world/

      • 25
        Anonymous says:

        No, it was definitely Reagan, Thatcher, and Nixon who shaped the international order. Blair and (especially) Brown destroyed it.

        • 73
          Win one for The Gipper ! says:

          Didn’t Blair invent “liberal interventionism” ? What a great idea that was !!

      • 107
        thick as thieves says:

        are you having a fucking larf Guido?
        if you are reduced to digging up dead people to formulate the argument for a smaller state then you really are fucking struggling sir.
        a universal health care system will lead to a more productive workforce which will in turn increase companies’ profits.
        I thought you were a free marketeer capitalist Guido, yet here you are arguing against increased profits. hmm.. very strange. does not compute.
        and due to the global economic meltdown so many industries have now been saved by the state that reagan’s whole laissez-faire philosophy has been made utterly redundant.
        we need some new ideas.

      • 114
        thick as thieves says:

        oh don’t you fucking start you c’unt. it’s sunday for fucks sake.
        but as you are here I might as well give you a good clout you round the ear
        *
        *
        your favourtite subject
        *
        scottish independence
        *
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        independence? you cheeky fucking slag. do not question the great thick as thieves when you are dependent upon the generosity of the English taxpayer.
        prove it? if we were to use scotland as a test of universal healthcare then it would surely be abolished.
        go easy on the mars bars, whisky, cheap cider chips and fags you motherfuckers. you c’unts are costing us a fucking fortune.
        independence? don’t making me larf you dopey retard.
        fuck off and join the EU then you cretin. better take some vaseline though, coz the EU gonna fuck you real good.

        ASTA ASSHOLE*

        • 120
          Madman On The Clapham Omnibus says:

          Are you schizo?

        • 130
          Southsquach says:

          yes. he’s a head-case little child who’s overdosed on his Ritalin today

          great fun to laugh at him though as everyone here does so often

          he’s escaped his adult supervision to type the same old shit

          dopey retard cripple druggie c’unt cretin c’unt innit innit dopey retard cripple druggie c’unt c’unt innit innit dopey fucking retard cretin cripple slag druggie c’unt c’unt innit innit innit innit

          LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME*

          LOOK AT ME

        • 140
          thick as thieves says:

          madman,
          Guido deleted the post I was responding to but you didn’t notice that because you are a part time lightweight. fuck off lightweight.
          southsquach,
          now listen here you c’unt:
          I AM TOP BOY DON’T YOU DARE BACKCHAT ME YOU FUCKING SLAG
          you are going to get a good fucking hiding if you keep gobbing off you retard.
          behave yourself scum.

      • 117
        Silvio Acupunctus says:

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        BAI THE WAY THIQK AS TOO SHORT PLANQKS

        companies* profits

        reagan*s whole

        And The Apostrophffee of Katosstrophffee

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        AND THERE IS A HOLE LOT GOING ON

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        From Spaedo
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        • 138
          thick as thieves says:

          now that’s a bit more fucking like it.

        • 151
          summer_Breeze says:

          ” great fun to laugh at him though as everyone here does so often”

          Actually, not everyone laughs at TaT, at all.

        • 154
          thick as thieves says:

          that’s right summer breeze, not everyone joins in the fun.
          uptight motherfuckers like you are not amused but then I am not here to amuse you, I am here to scare the shit out of you.
          innit.

    • 134
      Leagle Beagle says:

      Go look at the Huffington posts tribute to Ted Kennedy, Ariana Huffington says they could name a bridge after him!

      God I laughed so hard at that! I can think of one which should be named after him its pretty famous already…

      Some journos really are so stupid!

  2. 2
    caesars wife says:

    how do you suddenly give 47 million people healthcare without needing a lot of new taxation ??

    these govt letters on Al maghri release look interesting .

    • 27
      God, posters her are loathsome says:

      Erm. Well since the US spends more on healthcare than an other Western Nation for the least overall result… there’s an awful lot of slack to be taken up.
      No more ordinary people having decide which one of two severed fingers they can afford to sew back on.

      • 31
        Zealous Born Again Man-made Global Warming Believer says:

        What?

        “for the least overall result”? Against what standard is that measured, precisely, and by who?
        Factually, Americans have higher survival rates in the cancerous diseases than those in Britain oppressed by State medical tyrannical apparatus the NHS.

        If one excludes higher rates of being fat and homicide among certain minority groups which inflate obesity and murder statistics, East Asian and white Americans live as long as Europeans and Aussies.

        • 110
          Not this again... says:

          Survival rates are factually meaningless. All that tells you is how long you survive from diagnosis. A large chunk of this comes from prostate cancer, due to the American obsession with the PSA test. Prostate cancer is slow developing, so catching it early isn’t a huge bonus, especially as false positive results can lead to healthy people having to undergo potentially dangerous treatements.

          It’s mortality rates that you have to compare – i.e. how many people survive the disease. And here’s where we come out better. It’s not a huge difference, If I recall it’s 102 preventable deaths per 100,000 for the UK, and 110 for the US.

          Overall the US spends ~16% of its GDP for a WHO ranking of 37th.
          We spend half that as a percentage, and we’re 18th.

          Our system far from perfect. It needs more money, less managers, less targets and rankings, and reform about the option of part private part public treatment. But it’s infinitely better for the vast majority then the US system. Of course, if you can afford to pay literally millions of dollars for the best quality treatment, the States are leagues ahead. Because sure as hell your medical insurance company will try and find a way to weasle out of paying for as much as they can – they’re a business afterall.

    • 47
      Anna R says:

      Aha, Reagan’s bones have been brought out to join in the rattle……..HERE

  3. 3
    Kevin T says:

    You got to hand it to the man, he could speak!

  4. 4
    broan says:

    Ergo, Britain has been a socialist state since 1948. And look at us now.

  5. 5
    Jethro Q. Walrus-Titty says:

    Ronsa………next to Tricky, one of the best.

    • 7
      monica lewinsky says:

      No, Bill was the best.

    • 15
      THE THIRD ROUNDEL says:

      Best two American post-war Presidents:

      1 REAGAN
      2 NIXON

      • 16
        Anonymous says:

        Nixon was brilliant – the right man t the wrong time.

        • 17
          Anonymous says:

          Long live the sacred memory of Richard Nixon, wrongly defiled by the Left, a virtuous and honorable man. Spiro Agnew was OK too!

        • 32
          Zealous Born Again Man-made Global Warming Believer says:

          Nixon was too unscrupulous and distrustful to possess that nobility of spirit which forms a ‘great man’, however, historical truth must extort from reasonable people the admission that Nixon’s presidency was strong and beneficent, and if not for Watergate he would be remembered with, if not affection, then much reverence.

          The gradual, diplomatically-executed ejection of the Soviets from the Near East and negotiations with Red China were masterful, and enabled the brilliant, lucrative peace of the 1990s which Reagan prepared and Clinton squandered.

      • 18
        Anonymous says:

        1. Nixon.
        2. Reagan.

      • 29
        A Pensioner says:

        Seconded, Third Roundel. Men of true stature.

      • 119
        no longer anonymous says:

        Nixon was only a couple of steps away from socialism. The idiot imposed price and wage controls and called himself a Keynesian, not to mention supporting affirmative action quotas.

  6. 10
    Jethro Q. Walrus-Titty says:

    then Monica, tell me the shape of the stain on his dick?-was it a love heart?

  7. 13
    Raffael says:

    Is that really Ronald Reagan?

    Let the Americans remember: they spend 16% of their GDP on healthcare whilst we spend 9%. Our NHS offers universal healthcare whilst there’s leaves people behind. If you don’t have enough money, you don’t get healthcare. It’s that simple. Is that any way for a country to serve its people?

    And incidentally, this does not reflect my views on our own NHS.

    Yours,

    Raffael

    http://my.telegraph.co.uk/thomashogg

    • 122
      Madman On The Clapham Omnibus says:

      That is a a pants argument I have lived and worked in the US and while there my status was overstay/undocumented everybody recieves the bare minimum of care,yes even illegal immigrants,this is given even if you ask to remain anonymous.Incidently the level of care I recieved on medicaid is probably better than that available on the NHS.The US spend almost double what the UK do on health apparently,I dont know if that is correct but what I can ascertain is that in the US money is spent on trying to achieve a good medical outcome not a good employment outcome.I have labour leftie friends who boast that they work for the third biggest employer in the world and all they dream of is their retirement so they can take a well earned rest from the thirty odd hours a week they manage between sick days,far better if they would boast their employer was the best health service in the world for treatment outcome rather than a method of income re-distribution.

    • 124
      Hard-Lazing Voter says:

      “If you don’t have enough money, you don’t get healthcare. ”

      A common misconception.

  8. 22
    Wm T Sherman says:

    Off-topic.

    “Secret letters reveal Labour’s Libyan deal”

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6814974.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797084

    ————————————————————-

    The story at the link confirms that Libyan mass murderer Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi, the Lockerbie bomber mastermind, was released as a condition for an oil deal with Libya. He was diagnosed with terminal cancer by a single non-British, non-specialist MD – possibly a Libyan. My understanding is that individuals with end-stage prostate cancer generally can’t walk, as it metastasizes to the spine. Yet there he was, hopping down the gangway off the plane, descending to an adoring crowd. I’ll be he’ll live to be 100.

    For a $30 billion oil deal. This was put in motion in 2007. The Libyans held out for al-Megrahi’s release.

    The little Scottish worm who did the actual release said it was on “compassionate grounds.”

    Compassionate grounds. Jesus titty-fucking Christ.

    • 36
      Agent 99 says:

      Which means

      1_ Mandlescum lied openly last weekend when he stated there was no connection.
      2- McFuckwit lied when he said it was solely a matter for the Scottish ‘government’

      They both lied openly and yet again Jack Straw has his dabs all over it. How many times do they have to be caught before they are toast?

      Well well well…..even on BBC news front and centre now

      Straw ‘backed down’ over Megrahi
      Justice Secretary Jack Straw dropped a demand to exclude the Lockerbie bomber from a Libyan prisoner swap accord citing “overwhelming” UK interests in advance of a major oil deal.

      Its no wonder the yanks are pissed off. That destroys the last part of any cooperation and /or special relationship. I think Obama beach now has Snotty McTwat sussed like the rest of us. If this was a Tory government they would not be allowed to survive. A labour government can capitulate and appease yet still be allowed to carry on????????????

      • 56
        Agent 99 says:

        Interesting point here in the same regard. Shows compassion could not have come into the original equation. Also this I understand was one doctors view, non UK resident and not a specialist.

        “Megrahi’s cancer only became terminal in September 2008 and his application for “compassionate release” came thereafter. These letters were exchanged in December 2007, before the issue of “compassionate release” due to terminal illness was even on the radar of the Scottish Government. This is the Scottish Government’s “get out clause” (not that they really require one).”

        Hat tip Grandstand on PB.Com

        • 74
          TOO FAR says:

          Another note!
          There is some who doubt that Megrahi was guilty of arranging the bombing, and that Iran was invoved. Something about revenge for the the Americans shooting down an Irainian airliner.
          Also some of the evidence at his trial was suspect.
          Maybe a new enquirey might eliminate any doubt!

      • 70
        Anonymous says:

        I shouldn’t worry – the “yanks” sussed Brown as a “wrong un” and an unreliable ally as soon as he was made PM and that view was re-inforced when he visited both Bush and Obama and subsequent events have proven them right.

        Effectively they’ve written off the Brown Government and are playing a waiting game to see if the British electorate elect the Conservatives and then the yanks will re-assess the relationship again depending on what line Cameron takes.

        The “Lockerbie” deal/no deal just further destroyed Brown’s reputation as far as they are concerned and just re-inforced the view that Brown can’t be trusted

      • 77
        stilyagi_air_corps says:

        They are Nosferatu, the Undead. The only thing they fear, and that can destroy them, is the symbol of the Cross: a diagonal one, written in pencil inside a little box.

      • 94
        Winston Churchill once said says:

        “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last”.

        • 137
          Wm T Sherman says:

          Don’t get me wrong. Our Democrat overlords here in the U.S. know all about appeasing enemies and betraying allies. They prove it every day.
          I would guess that Obama & Co. knew all about this matter in advance and had no problem with it.

  9. 26

    God Bless America.
    Ron has been born again… again
    Again… and yet again

    • 103
      Russel Crowe said says:

      “God bless America. God save the Queen. God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia.”

  10. 28
    Jimmy Sands says:

    Actually the old fraud was speaking out against Medicare, which presumably means that the US has now been party of the socialist bloc for over 40 years.

    As for Beck (Dan Hannan’s new BFF next to Guido) watch him spell it out here.

    • 96
      Barry "Deus Vult - God wills my Healtcare Plan" Obama says:

      Too right boss-man.

      The opponents of this new power-centralising scheme I’ve proposed are the enemies of God and His President-Prophet.

      Medicare has been a faultless and prodigious triumph, $35 trillion unfunded liability? That’s pittance once I foist income tax rises on an unsuspecting middle class.

  11. 33
    Nazi Moderator says:

    Note to self: delete all but 6 & 23 in morning

  12. 34
    Eric Leach says:

    Reagan was nuts just like Thatcher was nuts.

    Why were these people so terrified by Socialism? The more they ranted against it the more it convinced me that Socialism actually could work. It’s a bit like Tories ranting about Vince Cable – it makes me more interested in listening more carefully to want Cable actually says and writes.

    ‘The right to bare arms…’

    • 37
      Almond essence says:

      Good surname Eric…sums up socialism to a tee

      Talking of nuts the ginger midget is quiet these days,,has her car been repaired yet? Is she still reconnecting with her constituents?

    • 41
      albacore says:

      A commie campaigning against burkas?

      • 62
        Ratsniffer says:

        They weren’t “terrified” of socialism, they just knew what a necrotising influence it is on society…take a look at England after 12 years of it. I rest my case.

  13. 39
    English Liberation Front says:

    “Why were these people so terrified by Socialism?”

    Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Castro, Ho Chi Minh, Mao, Pol Pot, Cousesceau, Honicker, Kim Il Jong, etc.

    The naive belief of useful idiots that “Socialism actually could work” paved the way for these evil tyrants.

  14. 40
    Agent 99 says:

    PB.Com running with an interesting thread stating McJonah went to Afghanistan purely to upstage Cameron who has had such a visit penned in since last July but has now cancelled the visit to avoid unnecessary over use of army resources. Brown really is an odious devious little shite and shows its all about headlines and to hell with the toops.

    As Mike Smith points out the Fuckwit has form on this the last time was during the Cons conference and day of Camerons speech. Mike thinks this story has legs and cause trouble.

    Did PM jet in to scupper Cameron’s Afghanistan trip?

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209984/Did-PM-jet-scupper-Camerons-Afghanistan-trip.html#ixzz0Pe5VsEF6

    • 93
      Anonymous says:

      The “Dark Lord’s”plan was probably to announce an election just before the Conservative Conference starts and at the end of Labour’s following a summer of “recovery” for Labour in the polls and when signs of the start of the recovery from the recession ar perceived to be beginning before more bad news after Christmas. Well that WAS the plan but the weak link and there are always weak links in every plan – was that the absence of Gordon Brown didn’t deliver the expected boost in the ratings and his “leadership” over the Lockerbie release in fact delivered the opposite effect so they’ll have to “soldier on”(forgive the pun) until February and hope !

  15. 43
    Agent 99 says:

    Support for Gordon Brown falling as economic confidence grows, reveals Britons feel increasingly optimisic about the economy but Gordon Brown is failing to reap the benefit

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/aug/30/gordon-brown-losing-economic-confidence

    • 61
      jgm2 says:

      Britons feeling increasingly optimistic about the economy? Nothing would surprise me. These will be the same Brits who kept voting Labour even while they were running 30bn quid annual deficits and claiming an end to boom and bust.

      Look ‘optimistic Brits’ what, precisely, is the optimistic scenario in apresent where this years annual deficit is200bn quid, the Boe has printed 175bn quid so far this year and nobody dare mention just how much the government payroll will have to be cut or taxes increased to make up the shortfall.

    • 75
      jgm2 says:

      It will still get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better even after the Labour imbeciles of economic destruction are P45′ed. You cannot erase twelve years of idiocy in one night.

      • 79
        jgm2 says:

        Although I’m just back from a week in Rome and can report on a splendid Orwellian punishment pioneered by our Roman chums. Damnatio memoriae.

        Literally damning the memory. Just erase the fuckers from history. Don’t refer to them. Tear down their statues, burn their letters, their writings, their fucking egregious books on ‘Courage’.

        This is the perfect punishment for Brown. A man, who in his own fucked up head, is a Prime Minister on a par with Churchill, Disraeli, Thatcher and Cromwell all rolled into one.

        Or, as the rest of us consider him, a fucking nutcase.

        Nothing could be more perfect punishment for Brown than the realisation not that he is not a great Prime Minister, not even that he is the shittest PM and shittest chancellor in UK history bec ause at least he’d be mentioned in the history books. No, what would really kill his overwhelming ego is the realisation that he will be a no-mark in history. Not even Ozymandeus’s stone feet with an inscription.

        Orwellian but fully deserved in his case. And, with his Orwellian dream of a total surveillance society most appropriate.

    • 112
      Man on the Clapham omnibus says:

      “UK will grow sicker until it swallows the bitter pill of economic reality”

      ………….”The most important piece of data published last week concerned our still deeply dysfunctional credit markets – yet it generated little comment. British banks claim “lending is up” but that’s untrue.

      Billions of pounds of taxpayers’ money is being “lent” by banks to their
      off-balance sheet vehicles – in a desperate attempt to wipe out the sub-prime toxic waste said banks so stupidly took on.

      But that’s not “lending” as far as UK firms and households are concerned.

      Net lending to non-financial UK companies fell £4.1bn in July, the steepest decline since the credit crunch began. Despite the bank bail-outs, firms are desperately short of the working capital that makes commerce possible.

      Credit-starved businesses will be forced to make more lay-offs in the months to come – particularly the UK’s smaller firms, which employ millions of people but are finding it near impossible to access finance. Rising unemployment will push up default rates, not least as interest rates rise, threatening renewed financial turbulence as more mortgage-backed securities go wrong.

      The credit crunch has hit the UK hard. Our households are more indebted and our reliance on financial services is greater than any other Western economy.

      Last week, the International Monetary Fund concluded the UK will suffer a sharper decline in its potential growth rate then the eurozone, the US and Japan as a result of this crisis”……………..

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/liamhalligan/6111107/UK-will-grow-sicker-until-it-swallows-the-bitter-pill-of-economic-reality.html

      • 131
        Madman On The Clapham Omnibus says:

        It seems someone needs to explain very slowly to gordon ,alaister and the other morons that although the sums of money are very big,it is however real money which must be be repaid.
        The most prescient fact which must be drilled home is the largest proportion of the repayments will come from those who earn £8 to £12 per hour not like the new raj at the BBC where the salaries defy gravity,the market and common sense.Those on the median post industrial wage have no pension and no access to an expense account unlike the opinion farmers.What they take home is what they MUST live on.

        • 156
          Watch the Skies! says:

          “opinion farming” may have been a misprint, but it is a felicitous one: a word to describe the process by which minds are moulded, unshakeable beliefs are formed and a harvest taken at the supermarket checkout or polling booth.

  16. 44
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    There are a few things that would be top of my list to address in the US medical system:

    1. Break the link between employment and insurance coverage. There is no particular reason why it should be so much more expensive to underwright an induvidual as opposed to a group of individuals as the premiums are linked to your personal medical condition.

    2. Reform Tort law to reduce the number of spurious legal claims that drive up the costs.

    3. Reduce the cost of pharmaceuticals.

    4. Provide a coherent safety net for those who’s insurance cover will no longer cover them for chronic conditions.

  17. 45
    Good day to bury bad news says:

    Labour to slash spending on its academy programmeGovernment’s flagship schools told to ‘tighten belts’ because of downturn

    The government is preparing to cut spending on its flagship academy programme, with schools’ sponsors told to expect a reduction in funding for each new academy school as soon as next year.

    Academy leaders have been told to brace themselves for tighter spending from 2010 in the first admission that the government is preparing to reduce its spending in some areas of education.

    The revelation prompted accusations from the Conservatives that Labour is backing away from the Blairite scheme of independent state schools, but the government said it was still planning to expand the number of academies.

  18. 46
    Dads Army (2nd 11) says:

    British soldiers banned from using live bullets to save money

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6814938.ece

    • 53
      Seth the pig farmer says:

      let me guess, the additional rounds purchased as a result of the operational need in Iraq and Afghanistan are being bought at the same price as the original order. You would have thought that there would have been a volume discount in there somewhere.

      Interesting to see that 50% of the cost of operations in Afghanistan is considered (by the Treasury) to be covered by the baseline cost of running the Army. That would seem to be a very optimistic assumption.

      I wonder if they include the additional costs incurred outside the theatre of operations by the Army as a result of the operations overseas?

      I didn’t think so.

    • 127
      Hard-Lazing Voter says:

      Saving money is absolutely unneeded unless it’s from defence, in which case SNIP SNIP SNIP.

    • 150
      McMENTAL'S A FRUITCAKE says:

      Maybe We Should Ask The Taliban To Use Fake Bombs ?

  19. 48
    mitch says:

    Go talk to the soldiers like I did, when you mention snotty they get very very angry.He is pretty much hated by all ranks and they are “ordered” to be nice and not kill him or tell the truth hence all the background jokes like Cyclops its all they can do.

  20. 51
    finger of fudge says:

    NHS + BUPA appears to work ok to me

  21. 52
    Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

    At least Mrs Thatcher wasnt a poodle to the USA

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  23. 57

    Ronald Reagan — In his own words

    * Government is not the solution, it’s the problem. Inaugural address, 20 January, 1981

    * Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidise it. 1986

    * A friend of mine was asked to a costume ball a short time ago. He slapped some egg on his face and went as a liberal economist. 1988

    * Honey, I forgot to duck. To wife Nancy Reagan in the emergency room after being shot, 30 March, 1981

    * I hope you’re all Republicans. To surgeons as he went into the operating theatre

    * When you see all that rhetorical smoke billowing up from the Democrats, well, ladies and gentlemen, I’d follow the example of their nominee: don’t inhale. A reference to Bill Clinton at the Republican National Convention, 1992

    * I’ve noticed that everybody who is for abortion has already been born. 1980

    * How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin. 1987

    * My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes. A joke, not realising a microphone was on, 1984

    * I urge you to beware the temptation of pride, the temptation of blithely declaring yourselves above it all and label both sides equally at fault, to ignore the facts of history and the aggressive impulses of an evil empire, to simply call the arms race a giant misunderstanding and thereby remove yourself from the struggle between right and wrong and good and evil.

    * I believe that communism is another sad, bizarre chapter in human history whose last pages even now are being written. 1983.

    * The other day someone told me the difference between a democracy and a people’s democracy. It’s the same difference between a jacket and a straitjacket. 1986.

    * She’s the best man in England. On former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher.

    * If I ache, it’s because we are apart and yet that can’t be because you are inside and a part of me, so we really aren’t apart at all. Yet I ache but wouldn’t be without the ache, because that would mean being without you and that I can’t be because I love you. A letter to Nancy in 1963, quoted in her 2000 book I Love You, Ronnie

    * I now begin the journey that will lead me into the sunset of my life. I know that for America there will always be a bright dawn ahead. Announcing his Alzheimer’s disease, 5 November, 1994.

  24. 64
    Irate Viewer says:

    Is Andrew Marr fucking dead?

    • 65
      Anonymous says:

      Why do you ask?

    • 72
      Lord Reith's Ghost says:

      No – just on holiday in the wilds of Tuscany.He’ll be back “refreshed” next week in time for the “Conference Season” along with Robinson

    • 97
      bandersnatch says:

      I’m missing my Marr fix… annoying or otherwise. Why don’t they say A M is still on holiday? All we got was…’Those of you who have switched on to see the Andrew
      Marr show will have to watch BBC news instead. Back next week’. Perhaps he has the increasingly rare, a ce moment, swine flu.

  25. 67
    Agent 99 says:

    Straw just made a statement that is evasive to say the least. What he does not do is deny the Times allegations.

    He says only that the Scottish government could ‘veto’ any such release and the release when completed was under a ‘different’ set of rules and so the discussion is academic. He did not say he (No 10) was not involved as far as I can see. I sense a politican seriously wriggling on a hook being very careful how the denial is worded.. dig deeper and you will soon unearth all the other slimy maggots.

    • 71
      Anonymous says:

      He can’t deny them if they’re true can he ?. Our Jack is a “survivor” and hasn’t got where he is to-day without knowing the exact formula of words that will still protect his reputation if the whole house of cards falls down around Brown’s ears.

      • 78
        MISSED OPPORTUNITY says:

        HE’S A Fucking Crook And Should Be Shot There Is More Sleeze Surrounding This C*nt Than Flies Round A Bucket Of Shit !
        Talking Of Buckets Of Shit Wheres Prescott ?

      • 148
        Madman On The Clapham Omnibus says:

        Tats on his fourth bottle of diamond white and trying to learn english as a second language

  26. 68
    Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

    Just come across this , Love the headline
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6814940.ece

    • 76
      MISSED OPPORTUNITY says:

      Brown Couldn’t Win A Fucking Raffle And He Knows It !

    • 80
      Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

      I guess Sir you get points for trying ?

    • 81
      ED U K SHUN says:

      Is This “A” Level English Under Labour ? What The Fuck Is You Saying !

      • 82
        jgm2 says:

        It’s positively Joycian in it’s unreadability. Best just to skip to the next comment I find. No point trying to decipher shite. Nobody with anything worth saying would be so fucking obtuse.

  27. 83
    Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

    After scanning this mornings news it seems that Labour are still lying ,cheating Hoons .

    Is there nothing or no-one they wont smear ?

    • 92
      It's starts at the top says:

      No – nothing is “off limits” to them, From the memory of a dead soldier to a granny who can’t get treatment on the NHS. Once you realise that not one of them has an ounce of integrity or moral courage and their only raison d’etre is to cling to power at all costs it all begins to make sense

  28. 84
    Educay-shun-Edicay-shun -Education ? says:

    You may be right .

    Trouble is we can’t understand a fucking word you’re saying

  29. 86
    nell says:

    You have to admit that the Americans produce President’s who are good speakers and have a good public presence. Put gordon alongside any of them and you realise what a pygmy of a man we’ve got .

    The next election can’t some soon enough.

  30. 87
    ED U K SHUN says:

    The Local C*ntcil Have Just Put An Electoral Regestration Form Through All Our Doors ! “YES” BRING IT ON !

  31. 89
    • 104
      nell says:

      Hats off to Captain Phillipsons father for pursuing the truth.

      As for bob ‘aintbustinagut’ well there really are no words to describe the wretched toerag.

      I do believe brown’s government will go down as the worst, most wretched, most dishonest government we have ever had in this country, and bliar’s will go down a close second.

      • 111
        South of the M4 says:

        Yes, but they have to go down first. Unless Cameron ups his game the anti-labour vote will be split risking more of the same. Still not a foregone conclusion. Fat ladies etc.

      • 128
        Hard-Lazing Voter says:

        At least John Major had an exit strategy.

  32. 98
    matrix says:

    A list of Brownisms.

    It started in America.

    0% increase.

    Obama beach.

    I saved the world.

    We spend more on cows than the poor.

    There is nothing that you could say to me now that I could ever believe. [To Tony Blair]

    I did maths for a year at university. I don’t think I was very good at it. And some people would say it shows.

    The Arctic Monkeys really wake you up in the morning.

    I accept that mistakes have been made.

    I take full responsibility and the person responsible has resigned.

    • 99
      Zealous Born Again Man-made Global Warming Believer says:

      It was the right thing to do.

    • 101
      Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

      You Sir forgot the best one , The classic and the one that will remain most in our minds.

      No more boom or bust

      • 105
        Zealous Born Again Man-made Global Warming Believer says:

        Oh, I only now remembered some more classics;

        “I’m getting on with the job.”

        “The Opposition benches look like a Millionaire’s Row.”

        [As erroneously posted in another comments box]

        “I’m ready to listen.”

      • 115
        Agent 99 says:

        “What people want me to do is”… (Insert whatever crap he then comes out with which is normally opposite to what people actually want him to do)

      • 129
        UK Fred says:

        He was half right about boom and bust.

    • 106
      nell says:

      I’m getting on with the job.

    • 139
      Madman On The Clapham Omnibus says:

      DONT FORGET “Hardworking families” whatever a family is?

  33. 100
    Zealous Born Again Man-made Global Warming Believer says:

    I’m ready to listen.

    • 102
      Zealous Born Again Man-made Global Warming Believer says:

      Meant to be an addition to the ‘Brownisms’ compiled at comment 102 by matrix.

  34. 108
    nell says:

    O/T sorry – Sir Michael Lyons BBC Chairman in response to Murdoch’s attack on the BBC says ” We are admired around the world….and the public tell us that they trust the BBC and value the wide variety of services we offer”

    He ommitted to say that a survey of that very same public showed that as few as 30% actually watched BBC programmes.

    • 116
      Agent 99 says:

      We are admired around the world…..

      Bwahahahahahaahah

      No your not. You might have been but not anymore.

    • 132
      Madman On The Clapham Omnibus says:

      We had that very same moron as head of Birmingham City Council,an absolute time wasting psychophant replaced by the even worse Lin Homer both caved into union greed at the first opportunity spinning some trite blather about the need for consensus.In the run-up to elections while Labour had yet to be kicked out of power after nineteen years of wasting Birminghams money contractors were engaged to pave front gardens in ethnic areas to allow off street parking, purely as a traffic measure you understand.
      Bye sir Michael and plain old Lin,wont be missing you anytime soon….

  35. 118
    Anonymous says:

    i think beck loves reagan so much he would love to be with the no good two faced bastard

  36. 135
    If It's Brown Flush It Down says:

    Ronnie was simply the best. America needs him now more than ever

  37. 141

    [...] to Guido for spotting it first. (I’m just useless at this being-first [...]

  38. 147

    Good god!” That was impressive! All I did was put the url in and the video appeared!

  39. 149
    Richard Blogger says:

    This drivel must have been recorded when Reagan was in the terminal stages of Alzheimer’s.

    Incidentally have you seen any of Glenn Beck’s shows recently? He looks like he’s on the verge of a breakdown. Maybe someone should give him a drink to calm his nerves.

  40. 153
    Blair's Paid Ego Parrot says:

    I posted this,without the distracting music,several days ago.A very good listen that way.



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