August 29th, 2009

Murdoch Attacks State Sponsored Journalism

Even if James Murdoch is talking his own bookrsz_james_murdoch it is manifestly true, as he says, that “the expansion of state-sponsored journalism is a threat to the plurality and independence of news provision, which are so important for our democracy. Dumping free, state-sponsored news on the market makes it incredibly difficult for journalism to flourish on the internet. Yet it is essential for the future of independent digital journalism that a fair price can be charged for news to people who value it.”

The BBC destroys the ability of competitors to make a profit. We would have a more vibrant culture if the BBC wasn’t destroying the hopes of start-ups unable to compete with a rival that has almost unlimited funds and no need to make a profit. The BBC simply should not be in a whole range of areas, why did it need to nationalise the successful Lonely Planet publisher? Why is it competing to crush the Virgin and Capital radio stations?

The Tories don’t really have a plan to deal with the cultural monolith that is the BBC.  A permanent freeze on the licence fee would be a start.


332 Comments

  1. 1
    The BBC ate my hamster says:

    Fark the BBC ! Fark them right up their bottoms!!

    The BBC are worse the Hitler, Stalin and Herpees combined (Hitlerpestalin as it’s called)
    The BBC turn right wingers into flaming homeserxuals and Communists when they aren’t looking
    The BBC made Gordon Brown Prime Minister by forcing Tony Blair to quit
    The BBC made the Banks fuckup & take all the Taxpayers money by giving Robert Peston a silly voice
    The BBC started the Iraq was by making Bush a moron with subliminal messages in the Teletubbies
    The BBC turned Tony Blair into Bush’s poodle by changing the letters BBC to WMD every microsecond
    The BBC made Tony Bair Prime Minster when Noel Edmonds assassinated John Smith.
    The BBC made Gordon Brown an incompetent turnipchaser
    The BBC made David Cameron support the NHS, Afghanistan and call Hannan an eccentric
    The BBC eat small fluffy kittens and laugh as they pump Jeremy Clarkson full of monkey sponk

    Surely I haven’t missed anything, have I ?

    • 66
      Talwin says:

      Surely it’s the Tories who eat small fluffy kittens (after the main course of babies).

      • 75
        The BBC ate my hamster says:

        and laugh as they pump Jeremy Clarkson full of monkey-spunk ?

        No, I don’t think anyone’s accused the Tories of that yet.

        • 90
          The BBC ate my hamster says:

          Unless of course Talwin has some shocking information he wishes to impart to us concerning Alan Duncan, Michael Gove, Mr Clarkson, a Red-handed Howler Monkey, a length of rubber tubing and a bicycle pump ?

        • 99
          a touch of the beeboids says:

          I think you’ll find it was Freddie Starr who ate my hamster, a Murdoch Sun exclusive BTW, so fuck off Mr Biased Broadcasting Corps, you fucking stoned out hippie.

        • 113
          The BBC ate my hamster says:

          Don’t you just love it when the morons fail to spot obvious irony ?

          Yes that would be the entire fucking POINT in contrasting a famous bit of Murdoch “journalism” with the BBC.

          You hilariously dimwitted little pissweasel.

        • 140
          a touch of the beeboids with added irony says:

          Yeah but the Murdoch journalism is so much better and memorable mr fuckwit.

        • 148
          The BBC ate my hamster says:

          I’d have left well alone after making yourself look such a stupid c’unt.
          Now you just sound confused, desperately trying to cover your embarrassment

          It’s good entertainment though so keep it up shitforbrains.

        • 154
          a touch of the beeboids says:

          Calm own dear, it’s only a blog.

        • 163
          The BBC ate my hamster says:

          thanks

        • 170
          The BBC ate my hamster says:

          Like I said, good entertainment

        • 174
          a touch of the beeboids says:

          You sad fuck.

        • 178
          The BBC ate my hamster says:

          Not as sad as a humourless fuckwit who needed irony pointed out to him

        • 181
          TheSun says:

          colossal boobies and bingo for all!!

        • 184
          Anonymous says:

          with a free DVD “boobs down the ages”

        • 189
          a touch of the beeboids says:

          173. Yeah, like you’re a laugh a minute mr fucking irony, or should that be mr iron?

    • 92
      Ajax says:

      A Government controlled state broadcaster peddling a mono-culture is BAD for democracy

      • 294
        THE THIRD ROUNDEL says:

        Agreed. Scrap the ridiulous licence altogether and let the BBC support themselves in the commercial world. Or scrap the BBC possibly.

      • 295
        Julie Kirkbride says:

        The BBC are simply simply marvellous. They refused to report the expenses I paid to my mother, which is absolutely righty because the public have no right to such personal information. The Daily Mail is shocking – they should be closed down. The nasty nasty people who are attacking the BBC now are the same ones who have been attacking me and my lovely lovely brother Ian.

      • 296
        Anonymous says:

        I think you should eat your own hamster Kirkbride, you beastly beastly bitch.

      • 299
        Dave says:

        A appeal to sanity won’t really work on this blog (I’m kidding!) But an appeal to self interest might.
        Does the BBC threaten Big G’s blog? Naaaa. In the end this is something the Beeb can’t do. It fulfills a different purpose.
        But if the Murdoch clan gets their way, well they could create a blog by the British Glenn Beck which would nicely hoover up Guido’s ad revenue.
        That’s the market. That’s what Guido has always said he’s in favour of. Totally consistant. But what he gets wrong is assuming its the BBC that’s the threat and the problem.

      • 326
        Jeff M says:

        Mono-cultures should only be peddled by state-sponsored dairies. Otherwise its very BAD. As are any orange-flavoured or black cherry flavoured ones, I hate those.

        jx

    • 94
      Anonymous says:

      I believe everything I read. If the BBC really do eat small fluffy kittens then all hope for this country is lost. Please tell me it isn’t true.

    • 97
      Marcellus says:

      Is this not an absolutely crazy situation?

      All political ideas have to pass through the filter of the BBC commentators, otherwise the vast majority of people never hear of them.

      These commentators then mangle these ideas according to their instructions or personal prejudices. New ideas are ripped to shreds. They arrogantly act as self-appointed guardians of Truth, like narrow minded priests in the Middle Ages.

      No one has a monopoly on good ideas – yet they block and impede free discussion.

      This is an Information Age, yet we allow this to happen without a thought.

      Why do we just put up with this?

      Who elected these BBC commentators who tell us what to think?

      By what right do they hold their immensely powerful posts?

      Who appointed them?

      Who appointed the appointers?

      Come on – the need for reform in so many things is now so utterly critical yet these people are blocking the solutions. They just have to be removed.

      • 145
        Sukyspook says:

        Perfectly put Marcellus #94.

        Like the egotistical emperor who thought his new clothes were wonderful but only an innocent child spoke THE TRUTH out loud that the emperor was, in fact, naked….

        The BBC is nothing more than a polit bureau front for the ‘global bankster/corporate controllers or as so often cringingly and seemingly lovingly spoken of by Gordy himself: a ‘new world order’….(all over the lamestream media) and Murdoch doesn’t like it….

        Let’s face it, screwing ‘we the people’ rigid financially through the licence fee (collected by a private corporation) whilst selling the ‘party line’ is a stroke of genius – AND WE LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT!!

        If you want to control the people you have to control the flow of information but by not telling the truth ‘in these times’ the likes of Murdoch are struggling and so too will the Beeb soon enough.

        “Truth is the new ‘spin’ ” as I keep droning on….(sorry).

        • 156
          Jim Porker, Labour MP for Dagenham East says:

          I love the Barack Broadcasting Corporation because it provides me with all the left-wing talking points I need while the work experience chick is giving me head, before I go to the newspapers and repeat the same points.

        • 168
          Anonymous says:

          You mean links don’t you ?

      • 218
        ken power says:

        click on tpuc.org

        • 236
          Sukyspook says:

          Seconded Ken #213 – tpuc.org for sure:

          “and ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free”.

    • 190
      You are tat.... says:

      ….and I claim my £10.

    • 257
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    • 303
      Churchill's Cattleprod says:

      Gawd, you can tell when the beeboids are out in force. Its like being attacked by a toothless pugdog – all spit, no bite and the best they can do is a vicious suck.

      1) Suspend the licence fee until a full audit can be done of the BBC’s assets (has not yet been done)
      2) Sell off all those massive amounts of BBC-owned vacant land in the Ladbroke Grove area of London, plus all those empty studios and rehearsal rooms.
      3) Appoint a property management expert to start making a realistic rent for all those central London offices (that one at the top of Great Portland Street for example)
      4) Sell and leaseback most of the BBC’s property assets in London
      5) Expand BBC Resources into something that actually works, and not a front for renting out blue/greenscreen studios at a tiny fraction of their true worth.
      6) Extend BBC ad commercial management to their mainstream channels or bring in (poach) a good comms. manager from the competition – let the BBC, ITV, Sky, C4, C5 etc all start learning about how real competition is healthy for their business.

    • 305
      Cuse says:

      You lot are hilarious.

      Guido posts a sycophantic defence of Herr Murdoch at the expense of the beastly BBC and the usual anti-BBC indignation kicks in from the Right who despite a print media almost entirely composed of Right-wing propoganda, blame the BBC for all of the World’s ills.

      And of course, you miss the irony by a country mile that Herr Murdoch owns Fox News – a channel which exists purely to attack the incumbent Democratic government at all costs.

      You’re so up your right-wing arses you don’t see that under the US news media you don’t help democracy – you just create shite like Fox to sit and grumble with.

      • 308
        Axe The Telly Tax says:

        Nobody is forcing any American to watch it.

        Murdoch doesn’t send round a bunch of gangsters to demand money with menaces or threaten to throw you in prison if you refuse to pay for his output, unlike the BBC.

  2. 2
    righteous-rage says:

    disband the bbc, they are a shower of shite.

  3. 2
    nell says:

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/02e3cf1a-93fd-11de-9c57-00144feabdc0.html

    Control of the media , as with the bbc, has as we have seen produces biased and unbalanced reporting.

    I hope the tories privatise it. That will put a stop to their ridiculously high salaries and save us a license fee that we shouldn’t have to pay.

    • 6
      The BBC ate my hamster says:

      Dvvid Cameron, May 2009 – “I’m a supporter of the BBC. I’m a supporter of the licence fee … I think a frozen licence fee right now is the right thing. We are not talking about deep cuts in it.”

    • 304
      Hugh Janus says:

      Talking of high salaries Nell, there’s a woman whose name now escapes me but she’s something high up in the organization who refuses to reveal details of the so-called celebrity salaries that we are paying for – she is on £405,000!! How on earth can this ever be justified? She isn’t even in charge Brown’s Broadcasting Corpn!!

      I regret to say that Guido is wrong in advocating a freeze on the licence fee – what we really need is a very substantial cut in their funding. There is clearly far too much money sloshing around in the Bloated Bureaucratic Corporation.

  4. 4
    Ski says:

    TBH I am sick of the BBC. Referring to the ‘news’ website ; It is now so blatantly the public relations arm of the labour government that it deserves to lose the TV license funding.

    I shouldn’t complain too much, i gave up watching TV years ago, so i don’t pay a TV license!

  5. 5
    Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

    I read the piece in the Gaurdian all the coments where against what Mr Murduoch said , So in that case he might just be right

    • 162
      Moley says:

      The Guardian and the BBC are inseparable.

      They speak with the same voice, share the same values and are highly co-dependent.

      • 310
        Axe The Telly Tax says:

        Exactly. Take out the BBC and the Grauniad will fall. Bring it on Muhahaha.

    • 306
      Posh Tory says:

      Murdoch is not right. Getting rid of the competition is never the way to succeed. Its completely down to a lack of innovation and a lack of original thought that is forcing News Corp to be losing revenue hand over fist. If anything it is they that should adapt.

      The BBC has one fundamental weakness – because it is state sponsored, it has to be 100% reliable. Every story needs at least 2 sources. Every item is screened to remove possible offence to as many people as possible and be as balanced as possible.

      News Corp sites don’t have these limitations. This is a problem in some ways, but an asset in others. Their quality of journalism is in the pan because there are insufficient checks and the Murdochs put their slant, but on the other hand *they are first* with breaking news items. FFS, why can’t they use this more to their advantage? If their stories are 10 minutes ahead of the BBC then there is absolutely no reason why their sites couldn’t be more popular.

      Its the same with ITV & C4 & C5. Make better programmes and you’ll get a bigger audience share.

      I would however make a couple of alterations to the BBC mandate: as it is fully funded then:

      1) They should not be allowed to bid for sports rights – ie Premier league or F1
      2) All of their tv shows should be BBC made

      Apart from those 2, regulation should never be the way forward. Innovation is what drives profit.

  6. 7
    Trough Mixture says:

    It’s all about choice. Rat….or Vole.

  7. 8
    lolol says:

    Listened to Newsnight I didn’t realise Pravda had so many great Journalists,where have they all been hiding in the last 12 years,why have we been paying for them to tell us lies,sell the BBC and they can tell us lies and be as biased as they want with their new masters blessings.

    • 33

      So Murdoch can bring us the wonder that is Glen Beck and Fox “news”

      • 37
        Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

        I watch Fox and glenn beck , I enjoy though not always agreeing, I would like to see Mr brown go on Bill O Rielly , That would be better than a soft interview as offered by Mr Nick robinson

      • 107
        tumbril says:

        Too right. We need more fucking choice.

  8. 9
    Off the cuff says:

    Bit rich of the Murdoch ‘empire’ to tilt at the BBC. If we’re talking monopolies how does Sky’s ownership of sport square with the ‘freedom to choose’ so beloved of Murdoch.

    It would appear that Murdoch is all in favour of people ‘choosing’ one of his companies, but utterly against them choosing something they don’t have to pay for . . . .er, what’s the licence fee if it isn’t a ‘subscription’?

    BBC is a monolith and it is very left-wing biased, but beware of throwing baby out with the bath water – even though that bath water needs radically changing.

    As for you Guido, long may you continue to provide a free service supported by advertising. Your popularity is based on content and your advertising revenue follows. Perhaps if other websites focused more on their content they too might find that they could command better advertising rates.

    • 194
      Ian says:

      I agree totally with your description of the BEEB and Murdoch. But what is the answer? If the BEEB is changed from being leftish to the centre then the lefts would say it is against the poor and vulnerable in society. They are all being used for their own political agenda’s. Murdoch is using the BEEB to cover his and his father’s far right agenda. The BEEB was supposed to be an independent news gathering organisation which has changed and left it’s self open to these allegations no matter how true they may be.

      As for Guido I agree in a lot of his principles and values BUT not all. That is why we claim to have a free society based on a Democracy. We can agree to disagree. Guido’s attack on the Political elite is justified in most cases. The danger is that the politicians that are doing a great job are few and far between but they too are being tarred with the same “living on rations” brush, The one point I fail to agree with Guido on is the point of de-criminalising of drugs. Tell that to the pensioners that have their pensions stolen when walking home by a drug addict that needs a fix. We have seen an increase in the amount of cannabis farms after the Government lowered the category for for cannabis. These farms were/are being funded by gangs from the far east. A great deal of people have little or no adverse affects to cannabis but some do. I have seen my own daughters personality change due to an addiction to drugs.

      • 258
        ThousandsOfMilesAway says:

        I think the suggestion is to treat problem drug users (i.e. the small minority of heroin/crack/pcp/ice/cake-addicted ones who are most likely to rob pensioners) in the healthcare system, so that they don’t, er, need to go out and rob pensioners to get their ‘fix’, as you put it.

        Many, many nice professional people enjoy the odd bit of toot occasionally on a Saturday night and don’t deserve to be criminalised as a result. Sorry, but the law is an ass on this one, and virtually all of the negative effects you can talk about (funding criminality, mugged pensioners, deforestation in peru etc etc) are a result of the ridiculous war on drugs and a refusal to be pragmatic with healthcare treatment. Drop that and most of the problems go away.

        Sorry to hear about your daughter – hope she is recovering now.

  9. 10
    Anonymous says:

    Fully agree with all comments the Brussells Broadcasting Corp needs disbanding NOW.

    • 72
      Abolish the Licence Fee says:

      It must be systematically dismantled. Forget privatising it. You have to look at it like one of those robots out of the Terminator films. It’ll just keep coming back.
      The only viable solution is to break it up into little itty-bitty parts; individual tape recorders, micropohones, cameras, mixing desks, funiture, buildings, coffee machines and all, hold a massive auction of its entire broken-up components and give the proceeds back to the licence payer according to how long each has been forced to subscribe to this obscene monstrosity.

      • 261
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    • 171
      TheSun says:

      enormous wibbling titties!!!

  10. 11
    The Baiter's Master says:

    What needs to be stopped(not reviewed) is the “unique way the BBC is funded”. It’s a pole tax, their is no relation on the ability to pay or the use of the product that a viewer makes.

    The BBC does one thing really well and that is the World Service, which should remain a public service, the rest should be made to compete in the market place.

    • 76
      Ajax says:

      Wrong. The World Service was great, but it is not now.

      Everything is contaminated with the approved BBC message hidden within.

      Cannot be reformed, so disband it all or sell it off.

      I listen to Radio 3 and I am sick to death with the Labour propaganda “news” bulletins on the hour where Labour announcements have no opposition comment attached, but any Tory announcement or comment ALWAYS has “but Labour say . . . . .” added on.

  11. 12
    Zastrozzi says:

    Don’t get me wrong – the licence fee is downright wrong and the BBC deserves to lose it so many times over…

    But I’m having trouble reconciling the idea of James Murdoch – or anyone of his clan – being an authority on the ‘independence of journalism’…

    • 88
      bergen says:

      Seconded.Both the BBC and News International are untouchables .Politicians are frightened of them.Competion laws with real bite and the will to enforce them are the only answer.

  12. 13
    Jonathon Woss says:

    Leave ‘Auntie’ alone. She gives me six million pounds a year to churn out my puerile ‘Brand’ of humour.
    The licence fee raises £ 3.5 billion from licence payers every year for Labour.
    Is n’t that a nice little earner ?

  13. 14
    Jethro Q. Walrus-Titty says:

    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black………….

    • 238
      Kevin Phillips Bong says:

      As I always say : “Climb every mountain …”

      • 332
        Tarquin Fintimlimbimwimbimbusstopftangf'tang ole biscuit-barrell says:

        The next election will provide an overwhelming mandate to the sensible party

  14. 15
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    That poor Mr Murdoch, I can’t say how sorry I feel for him and his barrel-scraping mind-rotting business.

  15. 16
    Fuck M says:

    It doesn’t help when most debate about the BBC is done over the BBC airwaves.

  16. 17
    A BBC viewing card is what is needed says:

    Why do you want to freeze the BBC tax?

    The technology has existed for yearsnow that the telly tax should be in exchange for a viewing card so that those what pas the tax can watch BBC and those that do;t pay can’t.

    Why don’t they do it? Because they jolly well know that peeps won’t bother with the BBC tax and will watch ITV instead.

  17. 18
    Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

    The bbc should have two chanals and a few radio stations then give the people a chance to pay for it like sky then if it makes money good if it fails tough shit

  18. 19
    Man With a Very Hot Bladder says:

    The BBC is a cultural dead weight around the necks of the people of Britain.

    The licence tax should be reduced to £15 a year. Let them get by on that.

    • 26
      City of Vice says:

      No. The telly tax should be abolished.

    • 27
      If Woss is the BBC's top talent would they care to name their bottom? says:

      And mainly Chav culture at that.

      Well done that Murdoch chap for saying Woss would never get paid that miuch by a commercial broadcaster, which exposes the BBC lie that they are paying him the market rate for “top” talent.

      • 35
        AnonymousSource says:

        “AND worst of all “Wossie” is total rubbish and if he’s regarded as “talent” in this country then God help us all. He would be unable to secure anything like the money he’s being paid by the BBC by an of the independent TV Channels and Sky certainly wouldn’t pay it

        • 80
          Abolish the Licence Fee says:

          This foppish tosser has about as much appeal as a coil of maggot-ridden dogshit. One can see why the Beeb think he’s such a great catch, though. Like attracts like.

        • 137
          TheSun says:

          Big wobbling breasts!

    • 30
      Anonymous says:

      It is not the BBC as an institution that needs to be reformed. Basically their news output/bias is guided by a few senior editors/heads of news etc who have over the past 13 years of Labour hegemony been put in place. Remove them and replace them with your own people and you control the media.
      Labour has shown exactly how the media can be used as an adjunct of the party and that is what the Conservatives need to do starting immediately after winning the election in 2010.

      • 32
        Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

        I saw somewhere on another blog that a lot former Bbc staff work for the labour party , Am sure someone will have a list/link

        • 39
          Lord Reith's Ghost says:

          You may think so, Mike, but I couldn’t possibly comment although as most of the BBC jobs are advertised in the Guardian or by word of mouth from existing employees that could indeed by true although as an “impartial public service broadcaster” the BBC cannot allow bias in its news ouput in favour of Labour . Hahahahahhahahahha !!!!!!!!!

      • 81
        Anonymous says:

        It is not just in the last 12 years that the BBC has been a Left Wing front. It has been that way for 20+ years. It is not just the news output which is blatantly bias but also virtually all its drama. A play showing Lady Thatcher in a favourable light over the Falklands had to wait years to be broadcast and one is amazed they even made it. The Tories have never had a fair hand from the BBC so why bother to be supportive of the BBC. Revenge is a dish best eaten cold. The BBC have only themselves to blame.

      • 82
        Abolish the Licence Fee says:

        Remove them and replace them with your own people and you control the media.

        This is the false assumption that successive governments have made for over 40 years with the BBC. It is BEYOND reform; it doesn’t matter a fuck WHO runs it at the top level; nothing ever changes. It must be broken up altogether.

        • 89
          Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

          I agree Sir/Madam it mirrors Goverment spreading its tenticals all though our lives and pushing the private sector out ; hence state dependacy

        • 312
          Axe The Telly Tax says:

          Quite right. It’s time for this dinosaur to face its extinction event.

          If Labour claim to be the party of the poor, why do they support a license fee that sees a millionaire paying the same as a poor student for instance and poor people being thrown into jail. It’s time the Tories fired these questions at any supporter of the license fee, especially Labour MPs

      • 167
        Moley says:

        That is exactly how the BBC became Pravda.

        We are going to need a public service broadcaster who supports Government when it need support, (cutting public expenditure) and is open in its criticism when justified.

        It’s called impartiality.

        At present I strongly suspect that the BBC will make expenditure cuts impossible and ruin us all in the process.

  19. 20
    (yes I am a cunt / no I am not nu labour) says:

    We also have much to worry bout from Public Reltions sponsored journalism.

    • 176
      PR ass folk says:

      Don’t be so idiotic. This is ranting about the BBC not pointing out the serious problem of Public Relations press releases regurgitated as pretend “news”.

      Which reminds me, I had a story to link about which washing powder prevented cancer written by the esteemed scientists at Persil. Or was it a poll on which was the crumbliest flakiest choclate ? Could have been a survey on what Britons like to buy at the supermarket though.

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    The Grim Reaper says:

    Since the election of Demon Eyes and the Brown stuff, the BBC has become a craven front organisation for the Left Wing lunatic fringe. It used to represent all that was best about this country and was once admired for it’s excellence and as a heroic champion of our cultural values. Ken Russell, Potter and Hugh Wheldon. That Was The Week, Peter Cook etc…these were all brilliant, edgy talents nurtured by true public service broadcasting. It covered issues and subjects that reflected the richness of our nation, rather than the narrow, metrocentric bubble of wealthy and out of touch North London lefties.

    Today, the BBC has transformed into a vile, self opionionated extremist cheerleader for far Left ideology. It has become a one-dimensional sixth form socialist bunker acting as a front for a growing politically correct monster with huge cyber tentacles….Pravda….the Evil Empire…a bloated organisation grown fat on public money and it’s own smugness.

    Fiddling expenses is so rife at BH and White City, it would make the public sick if the truth were really told.

    The BBC is no longer respected around the world. All my contacts regard it as a left wing front for this government, with little independent journalism. When the BBC interviews anyone, they choose only from their personal contacts and buddies in the liberal left (or the very left for balance). See the line ups for that fraudulent farce – Question Time. They largely interview their own staffers on news programmes – so they do a lot of smug talking amongst themselves. They favour climate change, pro terror, fascinated by the Islamic imperative, obsessed with Obama but largely ignore Europe, subject Jewish viewers to deceitful antisemitic and anti Israel propaganda, they interview the left but interrogate the right…they are the dying remnants of The Guardian and NudeLabour and no longer represent the mass of people in this country who – unlike them – are victims of this cruel, greedy and vile authoritarian government.

    • 25
      Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

      A thoughtful post of which i cant find myself finding any reason to disagree

    • 36
      Thomas Jefferson says:

      Brilliant Reaper. Sometimes I think the BBC has totally lost it’s courage and does little to challenge the currently orthodoxy. I suspect every newsreader is Asian now because it ticks some government directive box. They never fight back but fit into a comfortable blanket theNuLab bullies have wrapped it in. After Iraq-Kelly they have been forced to obey like the police after McPherson. And what a sorry shower both have become.

      The BBC needs to show true balls and actually take on the current politically correct nostrums of a dying left wing ideology that has failed us all. Then we might respect them more.

    • 40
      marcu prigstoke is a "$$"^^^£*&^! says:

      Very good post !

    • 41
      City of Vice says:

      Well said, Grim Reaper. An excellent summary of the rotten culture at the heart of the BBC’s problems. Now take a copy and send it to ‘Call me Dave’, but don’t hold your breath.

    • 45
      Afghan Journalism says:

      the BBC are lefties because I say so.

      Case closed.

      • 131
        Anonymous says:

        A thoughtful post of which I cant find myself finding any reason to disagree.

        Very good post !

    • 48
      Jonathan Ross, Jenny Abramski, prof Robert Winston, Alan Yentob,... says:

      BBC – anti-semitic bastards.

    • 78
      Professor Pedant says:

      Totally agree. Especially the Interview Left and Interrogate Right bit.

      BTW, this is obvious to you and I but not to my family, who think I am an obsessive nutcase. All of which proves the Beeb are winning the propaganda war.

    • 84
      Seasick Dave says:

      It’s much, much worse if you live in Scotland.

      Its all of the above and an anti SNP bias that is overwhelming.

      Their love of Labour knows no bounds.

    • 86
      Anonymous says:

      Anti semitic? Sir, you DISGUST me. There is no such thing on the BBC, they were VERY reserved when ISRAEL were slaughtering people in Lebanon and even refused to show the DEC appeal.

      So pull your self loathing head out of your arse, accept you are wrong, recognise the distinction between people abhoring the behaviour of the Israeli state is not akin to anti semitism and get fucked.

      Blunt enough for you?

      I LOATHE people who draw a parallel that to criticise Israel is to be anti semitic. Its a damned good job YOU do not edit a news programme as you clearly cannot rationalise.

      • 96
        Thomas Jefferson says:

        Anonymous BBC Lefty speaks….shit as usual

        • 101
          Anonymous says:

          Wrong.

          And to hear you jump to that moronic conclusion indicates quite clearly how flawed your analysis is.

        • 106
          Thomas Jeffferson's black slave mistress says:

          That Mr Jefferson! Always with the fancy words and arguments.

        • 110
          sir micky lyons says:

          funny that, the real Thomas Jefferson was less than taken with the ‘chosen ones’. Like Shakespeare and Dickens today he’d be arrested, prosecuted and imprisoned or psychologically assessed, à la Bolshevik Russia, for his hate speech. Funny world.

      • 100
        City of Vice says:

        Ah well, I guess you didn’t subscribe to the idea of buying the IDF pizzas either….

      • 108
        Fake blood says:

        It’s not the criticism of Israel per se but the total lack of balance and frequent lies which render the BBC anti-semitic, also the complete lack of coverage of anti-semtitism in the UK. I for one am delighted to be loathed by a leftie idiot like you; the loathing it returned by the bucket. The delightful thing is that, after so many years, the bot is now on the other foot and people see you for what you are: Scum.
        So, yes, the are anti-semitic and I imagine you are too and I am pretty much certain that you are totally unable to reationalise, mistaking opinion for thought.
        I know, I know, you’re so sure you’re right and damned pleased with yourself but most people know the truth.

        • 120
          Fickle Finger of Fate says:

          The anonymous coward with the sociopathic tendencies has insulted TGR – one of our best posters without answering his central charge. Like most emotional, non rationalists from the Left – its all righteous anger and aggression.

          Take a look at the Biased BBC site. It’s packed with years of detailed evidence supporting TGR assessment – which in the face of such evidence – was really quite mild.

          It’s interesting how rattled you are. Double the dose, medics.

        • 121
          sir micky lyons says:

          there’s a position open on Newsnight. Would you like to join? Your spelling, balanced argument and suggestion of smear is just what we’re looking for.

        • 123
          nut says:

          back the anti anti-semitic, anti-BBC bias campaign. Send donations, pizzas, organs, whatever you got.

        • 128
          Anonymous says:

          What anti semitism in the UK? Get a clue mate, most people couldn’t give a shit about your or anyone elses religion.

          I’m no leftie just someone who is tired of the self loathing of certain people being pushed back to others who have no interest in their beliefs.

          Israel as a state is a a disgrace, a murderous and vindictive state built by a political elite who seem to have forgotten the lessons of the past. Judaism as a religion is a personal choice, not a political matter.

          Seems the only people who can’t seperate that are those who feel the need to defend a murderous state, know they cannot so simply accuse everyone of being anti semitic to try and stifle criticism of the state.

          I am not scum, i do not hate, kill, abuse or accuse people. I am not left wing, i am not right wing. I hold no religious affiliation nor do i support a particular political party.

          What I can say is i hold my own views on subjects, vote on conscience and speak my mind without predjudice. Perhaps you should try it, might make you feel happier than the expectation of persecution. Just because it happened in the past doesn’t mean it happens or will happen today, certainly, nothing like the levels it did.

        • 147
          Various Goldsteins says:

          It is a central tennet of the one true religion to celebrate our persecution through the ages, we hate gentiles, and we indoctrinate all of Gods chosen children to keep the hate going, Hitler did us a favour, your collective guilt over those events have allowed us to achieve our greatest position of power for generations.

      • 169
        Hard-Lazing Voter says:

        You don’t have to scrape an “anti-Zionist” for long until you find an anti-Semite.

      • 215
        Lord Gnome says:

        Anonymous – if you are singling out the Jewish State for special criticism, then under several definitions – you are a judeophobe or antisemite. If you are only criticising the Government of Israel, rather than it’s people then you have a reasoned case. If you are equally critical of the many Islamic nations who fund terrorists, abuse human rights, denigrate women, murder their own citizens then you have some right to your moral indignation as you are not just isolating Jews for your grievances. If you see Hezbollah, Hamas and other violent organisations as also “disgusting” and “badly behaved” then the accusation of antisemitism wanes. In fact, if you are ashamed of the UK for mass murdering millions of people from Aden to Cyprus, from India to Kenya, from Palestine to Germany, from Afghanistan to Iraq, from Burma to South Africa, from former Rhodesia to the Falklands….then I might think you had a reasoned, crafted case. But if you still only regard Israel with such opprobrium then you are a racist with very sinister opinions. End of.

      • 217
        Observer of Life says:

        There is one thing racists hate the most…that is a Jew who fight back

    • 187
      backwoodsman says:

      Claps. May I draw your attention to the assessment of them by Jeff Randall, the former and widely respected bbc business correspondent, which adorns the side bar of bbc quotes on the biased-bbc web site.
      ” Its visceral, they genuinely believe they represent the middle ground in politics !”
      Thats why reform will be difficult, urgent and essential.

    • 199
      Ole Blue Eyes says:

      I think people are getting carried away here over one line in a brilliant post. I cannot think of many of us who would disagree with the key points put forward by TGR. His posts are always worth reading and always bang on the point.

      I suspect he is a well known journalist….or political commentator????

  21. 22
    Submariner says:

    Off the cuff #9, I don’t believe the Murdoch clan to be whiter than the driver snow and they certainly have a measure of market power, but there is a huge difference between their power and that of the BBC. Murdoch’s rights for various sports come from bidding large piles of cash that have to be recouped by selling subscriptions. No-one forces the subscriber to pay over – if his customers think the charges are excessive they won’t do it. In the case of the BBC, the ‘customer’ _IS_ forced to pay, on pain of fines or imprisonment. That’s the difference.

    • 313
      Axe The Telly Tax says:

      Well said Sir. The key is about funding. No media company should receive any tax payers money. The media is not an essential public service. It’s that simple. Murdoch can do what he likes with his own money

  22. 23
    City of Vice says:

    Sod the BBC and Murdochs’ (Sky). The internet has put the skids under both.

    What the BBC and Sky have in common are that both are thieving bastards pushing their various agendas. The BBC, is a tax funded bloated bureaucracy packed full of vastly overpaid luvvies and commies that pushes out pro Labour propaganda as news. And Sky is an overpriced pile of crap seeking to shore up its increasingly risky business model by bullying our supine legislators into imposing more of more control over the internet because it wants to charge for content as its dead tree press operations sink beneath the waves. As for TV, have you ever seen Fox news? It’s pure shite . Murdoch’s billions has totally fucked up our football too.

    • 28
      Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

      Sir / Madam the one big difference is that i can chose to pay for sky unlike the Bbc

      • 50
        City of Vice says:

        Perhaps, in that isn’t the prospect of criminal sanction for not paying a Sky subscription. Apart from that, there’s little difference between the two. Both BBC and Sky actively seek to limit our ability to access news and information unfiltered by their interests and both actively distort the market to fleece us.

        • 52
          City of Vice says:

          whoops typo. it should have read:

          ‘Perhaps, in that there isn’t the prospect of criminal sanction for not paying a Sky subscription.’

        • 64
          Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

          No sir but i would loose my service

        • 314
          Axe The Telly Tax says:

          One is a commercial outfit who have to keep their viewers happy in a competetive marketplace. The other are a bunch of gangsters demanding money with menaces that make the mafia look like saints ;-)

    • 51
      R.Abramovic says:

      bang on mate.

    • 117
      Mark Oaten says:

      “As for TV, have you ever seen Fox news? It’s pure shite . Murdoch’s billions has totally fucked up our football too.”

      At least we could choose the type of shit we like.

  23. 24
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Privatisation of the BBC ought to be considered, with every household given the opportunity to buy shares in it.

    • 133
      Chooser says:

      ???????????? It’s already owned by the licence payer, you twat!!!

    • 138
      Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

      Why should we have to buy them? In case you hadn’t noticed we own it, and should be given the shares.

  24. 29
    Submariner says:

    Genghiz, by all means let us privatise the BBC, but not complete with its ability to send people to prison if they choose not to buy its services.

    • 175
      Moley says:

      Not quite right.

      You still have to pay the licence fee even if you never watch or listen to BBC programmes and only want to watch ITV, Sky or other non BBC output.

      The licence fee is a tax. In being forced to pay it and having no say over BBC output, we have taxation without representation.

      And by the way, does anybody believe audience figures, has anyone ever been asked what programmes they were watching?

  25. 31
    Jane Standley, BBC says:

    Look mate, we’re always No.1 with the news. For chrissakes we even told you WTC7 had collapsed 25 minutes before it did. Fucking psychic or what? How good are we?

    • 49
      Bengo the Boxer Pup says:

      Woof ! Woof !

      • 56
        Dirty Digger says:

        mate, you’ve got fleas.

      • 155
        Sukyspook says:

        Awwww Bengo #47 – I’m old enough to remember watching you on the Beeb – thanks for the smile and happy memories.

        Now our children get witchcraft; strange/often violent cartoons; Hannah Montana (groan) and her like and people suited up as multi-coloured aliens….

        Woof, woof indeed!

    • 136
      Chooser says:

      You have a point there, Jane. It was a remarkably prescient piece of reporting!

  26. 34
    Raving Loon says:

    Thomas Jefferson said: “To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”

  27. 38
    Pat says:

    I’d say put public service broadcasting out to tender- with a limit of say two channels max per tenderer. The beeb can have whatever channels it wins. We then get diverse opinion presented by public service broadcasting- breaking up the BBC monopoly of thought without allowing another monopoly to take its place.
    As to the BBC itself, who actually owns it? I believe its a public organisation, and could easily be privatised by simply giving shares to every license fee payer (sorry Guido).
    And if I were campaigning for office in a situation where one body controls a significant proportion of the information reaching the public I would be most reluctant to upset that organisation.

    • 68
      City of Vice says:

      Some of us have ‘issues’ with the concept of ‘public service broadcasting’ per se…

      Who decides what is of ‘service’ to the ‘public’?

      • 142
        Sod 'em all says:

        Once upon a time it was perfectly obvious what was and was not ‘public service’. It’s only these leftie Huhnes in the BBC that have redefined ‘public service’ to mean what they want it to mean.

  28. 43
    Campaign to Ban the Ban says:

    “Dumping free, state-sponsored news on the market makes it incredibly difficult for journalism to flourish on the internet.”

    It’s not free, and there are lots of journalists on the internet – working for the BBC.

    He’s complaining about something slightly different to what he says he’s complaining about.

    • 47

      It is free in the same way as the NHS is free. You are forced to pay for it whether you want it or not.

      • 60
        Afghan Journalism says:

        And the public will be as receptive to the scrapping of the Beeb as the NHS

        • 165
          albacore says:

          Cameron talks as though he believes that: more money down the NHS drain; no cut in the BBC licence tax.
          Heir to Blair’s crown? Seems he’d prefer Brown’s pointy hat with the big D on it.

        • 203
          An admiring troll says:

          bull shit, call a vote on both issues and I bet you’d be surprised.

          But then you’d cry it was the ‘recession’ that caused people to scrap them both like a typical leftie whinger.

          Just cause a few sad acts and boffins like Sarah Brown and Stephen Hawkings said they love the NHS and BBC doesn’t mean the rest of the nation and reality does.

          But you’ll never put it to the test because as left leaning you are undemocratic from the start and hate people having choices.

        • 204
          An admiring troll says:

          oops wrong topic

      • 266
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  29. 53
    Ian Botham says:

    The £200 license fee would not be accepted and so they have to stop the increases. Many things like cars have barely gone up in price for years.

    • 183
      Moley says:

      Don’t forget that every time a new house is built a new licence fee enters the income stream for the BBC.

      Every time a block of flats is built forty or fifty licence fees become due.

      No increase in the licence fee should ever have been necessary.

      Why is the BBC so much in favour of building the huge number of houses the Government says it needs?

  30. 57
    Abolish the Licence Fee says:

    Smash this evil organisation beyond all prospect of recovery. It’s become a monster that must be slain. Do it for the sake of our children’s futures.

  31. 61
    genghiz the kahn says:

    Making links between the political views of the reporters, interviewers and correspondents isn’t always easy, but it is trying to discover more about the news editors and their values which is more difficult. (Or trying to find our which are spouses, partners of politicans etc).

    Consider these for example – James Purnell ex cabinet minister – BBC career. Robert Peston – son of Labour peer. Laura Kussenburg – daughter of Quangocrat from Scotland. Andrew Marr – married to Jackie Ashley Gruaniad hack and daughter of former Labour MP. Add on the willingness to haul in Polly Tonybee, Kevin Mcguire and Michael White and you begin to wonder if it is jobs for the liberal left fan clubs at work.

    Is there a cultural bias at work, big state good, public sector good, private sector and profits bad, EU good, Bush Bad, global warming exisits, scepticism about it bad.

    • 186
      Moley says:

      The actual power is over recruitment, which perpetuates and increases bias when like recruits like.

      That is where changes need to be made.

  32. 62
    Phil O'Pastree says:

    Spawn of Rupert’s comments on Ofcom seem to align with Dave’s intentions with the oversized watchdog. Perhaps they have been in discussions?

    Still, I bet there’s more than a few sphincters starting to twitch over at BBCBolshie House this weekend.

    • 63
      The BBC ate my hamster says:

      David Cameron, May 2009

      “I’m a supporter of the BBC. I’m a supporter of the licence fee”

      No I don’t think so somehow.

  33. 64
    Beowulff says:

    The major issue is that the BBC is a Total State Monopoly. Of course it behaves as it does, given its guaranteed position.

    I find it nauseating that its suffocating Soft Left influence is everywhere, in the doctor’s surgery, on every news channel, in the local garage, in shops, etc etc. You can’t get away from it. It is truly evil.

    There are no other comercial Radio Stations left. They’ve all been overcome by the Monolithic Beeb with its unctuous self satisfied tones numbing the minds of the populace.

    Its dominant position must be reduced in order to provide economic space for other broadcasters. It is extremely unhealthy for Britain to allow the BBC to continue as it is.

    Let’s hope Call me Dave develops some balls to make some changes, though like others I’m not hopeful that ‘Blair’s Air’ is going to do anything meaningful.

  34. 67
    Dogger says:

    I have such mixed feelings about the BBC, if I’m honest with myself. Much of the time I hate it, and for very good reasons. And I mean I love to hate it. Their subtle, accomplished and nuanced propaganda and steering of the news agenda has done deep damage to this country and I would be happy to throw the whole lot out in one go – bathwater, bath, baby if there is one.

    And then there is a highly intelligent, patient and elucidating documentary program – usually on Radio 4,m and I waver slightly in my resolve.

    And then there is the Archers theme tune and I just know this shit has got to GO!

  35. 69
    Anonymous says:

    I don’t agree Guido. Other news organisations do exist.

    Don’t care if you consider current affairs a commodity to buy and sell. Don’t care if Murdoch does either. You both have a vested interest.

    Think its wrong for an American to lecture us on the BBC as it is for them to attack the NHS.

    And give up with the youtube videos, they’re probably shit anyway but whatever they are, i’m not watching ‘em. Is anyone else?

    • 124
      julian norgrove says:

      “Think its wrong for an American to lecture us on the BBC as it is for them to attack the NHS.”

      I don’t know if you’ve read any of the other comments on here, but we don’t need an American to attack the BBC and the NHS, we’ve got plenty of our own people.

    • 135
      Freeman says:

      No the Americans are very right to warn of the danger bolsheviks broadcasting corruption pose ,it’s not just a threat to us any more, the cancer that it is has spread world wide & it is now a global threat (unlike that global warming bs it peddles) .
      Their attacks on the NHS are well founded , socialised medicine doesn’t work , it’s not just our NHS that doesn’t work properly, Canada’s health system is in serious trouble too .

      • 141
        Sarah Palin says:

        dont’ forget the Death Panels and reds under the bed!

        • 179
          albacore says:

          Two close relatives of mine died from infections acquired in hospital.
          And one bastard doctor kept me talking so that I was not by the bedside of one of those relatives when she died.
          He was interested only in gaining my agreement to life support’s being switched off if there was the possibility that her quality of life would be seriously impaired should she recover.

        • 225
          Hard-Lazing Voter says:

          At least she can put apostophes in the right place.

        • 263
          Anonymous says:

          I doubt she knows what an apostophe is.

        • 281
          The Wall Street Wailer says:

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  36. 71
    Noel says:

    …after all

    It’s my Wonderwall….

  37. 73
    Porky Pies MP says:

    I dislike much of the BBC and especially the way it is funded. But I positively despise the smarmy, greeding, grasping, manipulative hoon Murdoch family and their destructive brainwashing of the ignorant masses.

    The only reason this particular piece of Murdoch shit is bleating is because he’s losing money from advertisers. He should be forced to rot in a cell with thousands of copies of his foul Sun to keep his arse well wiped.

    • 150
      Sod 'em all says:

      Maybe so, but just remember the BBC has also done more than its fair share of “destructive brainwashing of the ignorant masses” and has had a lot longer to inflict its damage. Look around at society today and the BBC has to bear a great deal of responsibility for the shocking state it’s in.

  38. 74
    Talwin says:

    “The BBC simply should not be in a whole range of areas”

    Multi-platforms, Guido, multi-platforms.

  39. 77
    Aussie Phil says:

    This is nothing but self serving bullshit from the son of a dirty digger.

    Real proof that the BBC prevents startups from getting up is needed by this audience and writer, I don’t see any.

    As they say, prove it. If anything it’s Murdoch’s monopolistic behaviour has done more to cruel media diversity and poison the media well.

    There is a lot of media out there having a red hot go, some will get up, some won’t.

    • 132
      dirty digger says:

      jeez mate, don’t mention poisoning wells, you’ll have that anti ant-semitic nutjob grim raper down on you like an english sheila.

  40. 83
    nell says:

    We should have a referendum to ask everyone whether they want to keep the license fee or whether they want to see the Beeb privatised.

    I bet not many would vote in favour of keeping the license fee.

    • 91
      Anonymous says:

      Frankly Nell, most people are too stupid to understand the value of public service broadcasting. Sure, they’d vote to abolish it on the basis they want to avoid licence fee. The service would deteriorate to the level of ITV and people would then “get it”.

      I’m all for democracy but your suggestion would end up with an absolutely predictable outcome.

      The system, for all its faults has worked for many years, no need to change.

      Don’t like it? Ditch the telly!

      • 139
        nell says:

        I think a system that pays ross £6million pa for his ‘quality talent’ has already deteriorated way below the level of ITV.

        And just look at how unbalanced Question Time has become.

        There was a time when the BBC was a valued public service broadcaster.Now it’s nothing but a labour mouthpiece. We are paying a license fee to subsidise labour propaganda.

      • 146
        Freeman says:

        “I’m all for democracy but your suggestion would end up with an absolutely predictable outcome. ”
        What a load of rubbish , it’s obvious that you have no concept of democracy at all . Do you work for the labour party by any chance ?

      • 159
        nell says:

        And another thing – look how the Beeb caved in to labour over the Dr Kelly/Gilligan affair.

        Dr Kelly and gilligan have been exonerated by the daughter of time – they were telling the truth and the government was lying. The Beeb should have supported gilligan. Instead then and ever since it has practised blatant toadying to this odious and failed labour government.

        In fact it could be argued that the Beeb’s descent into bias and mediocrity began with the Dr Kelly affair.

      • 173
        Hamish says:

        Frankly Anonymous, you’re too stupid to understand the concept of democracy.
        If we don’t want it, we shouldn’t be forced to pay for it.

      • 317
        Axe The Telly Tax says:

        ITV has produced programming every bit as good if not better than the BBC over the years. “Rising Damp” “On The Buses” “The Sweeney” “The Darling Buds of May” “Midsomer Murders” “The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes” to name just a few.

    • 98
      GR52 says:

      Call me Dave is betting otherwise as he has some minor election thingy in a few months

    • 191
      Moley says:

      I thought of that Nell, but the BBC would have a golden opportunity to influence the outcome in its own favour.

      If we had a proper Parliament with proper MPs who had proper debates and properly represented the views of the electorate, we might get somewhere.

      As it is, call me Dave will establish policy with a few of his mates and that will be that.

  41. 85
    Credit card payments says:

    Producing daytime TV tat, £1000/hour

    Jonathan Ross’ sallary, £18m

    Controlling the news agenda for New Labour, Priceless

  42. 93
    Willie says:

    DC must forbid the BBC from taking any funding from the EU. Then sack the DG and most of the trustees. Rewrite the charter to forbid “explanation” of issues other than in “analysis” programmes, so that the news becomes factually based and open to accusations of spin for which the board would be liable, through being sacked. Freeze the fee and sell off the commercial bits to compete with Virgin etc. Sack w**nkers like Peston and Robinson instantly.
    Job done.

  43. 95
    Marian says:

    It very simple really as all that needs to be done is Westminster legislation to change the BBC funding source from compulsory licence paying to a voluntary subscription paying basis.

    Competition in the news media market place will return immediately as a consequence and I guarantee it wont take long thereafter before the BBC ceases to be the propaganda voice of the Labour Party.

    • 109
      The Admiral says:

      Maybe, I would pay more when you actually see what we have for our money…

    • 279

      I favour turning nthe BBC into as mutual society owned by subscribers who elect the BBC board.

      There are two main subscription options.
      BBC Plus (without Adverts and extra uncut bits)
      BBC standard, cheaper subscription ,but with adverts.
      Also
      BBC Free, a free channel that advertises the other two options and also shows
      Lastly tax funded channel
      Open University TV, Basically Film the U.K.s best lecturers for a whole course and transmit them.

    • 318
      Axe The Telly Tax says:

      Well said Sir. I could not have put it better myself

  44. 103
    The Admiral says:

    It’s time to point out the blooming obvious.

    1. You don’t get adverts that the simple minded actually watch and the rest of us mute. I’M SO SICK OF ADVERTISING! It’s got so invasive I rarely watch ITV these days and DON’T start me on Sky’s cricket. Last time I watched it was in 1997 when we had uninterupted BBC2 – Bliss.

    2. Biase is a fact of life. In the Thatcher years BBC News intro and set was all BLUE (and much more restful too), and with any luck that will change next year! Remember true blue Murdoch in the 80s?

    3. If, as we do, you want to buy DVDs of your favourite series (e.g. Doc Martin, Midsomer Murders) check the prices. BBC are SOO much better value than ITV. And Sky commision bugger any good to start with!

    4. News comes from so many sources we are spoilt for choice. Who doesn’t read more than paper/blog/channel. There really is no problem with so much open source stuff out there.

    Without the BBC advertising would be unavoidable and my kids would be at risk of having a mind programmed by supermarkets. NO THANK YOU ALL THE SAME…..

    • 114
      Anonymous says:

      hear hear

    • 115
      Has anyone seen Mike Hunt says:

      But the advert breaks give you a chance to make a cup of tea without missing anything

      • 153
        Sod 'em all says:

        Agreed; they do indeed. Plus many TV adverts are outstandingly funny and go on to enjoy viral success on youtube.

    • 116
      Anonymous says:

      1). Adverts are annoying but the BBC displays as many for its own shows and products as other channels show on “breaks”. This MUST stop.

      2). Correct about bias. What gets me with the BBC is that journalists are too SOFT when questioning politicians. People have understandably been damned angry with Labour and they are given far too easy a time. Probably out of fear they’ll refuse to appear again. That being the case, you doorstep the bastards relentlessly when neeeded and show all correspondence with them to show they’re cowards. That’s not bias, its reporting facts.

      3). I’d be surprised if you could find a box set of any contemporary ITV show that would be worth buying let alone spending more than a fiver on. Their output is lowest common denominator trash. I can’t remember the last time i really watched ITV. It’s a shame as it used to be a good channel.

      4). Couldn’t agree more with this point. Guido and Murdoch have their own bias, interests and agendas so i do not hold their views on this in high esteem.

    • 242
      Ratsniffer says:

      What a load of rot. BBC DVD prices can be cheaper because they are already subsidised! WE have paid for the programmes to be made via the telly tax! And, if you don’t want to watch adverts in ITV, just turn down the volume. Or have a pee. Or make a cuppa.

      If the price I have to pay for a few good dramas and nature programmes is an unending stream of Nulabour propaganda, then it’s a price too high. Prune back the BBC to what it is good at – educational programmes, costume dramas, wildlife and sport. I would say news, but unless they can be neutral, forget it. Let the commercial boys sort out the rest.

    • 307
      Licence fee refusenik says:

      Advertising? Easy, skip it.

      Get a hard disk recorder, don’t watch anything live (if you must watch football, start watching the recording 20 minutes late to give you time), and skip every advert.

      I’ve ditched the TV now, but when I did have one, I didn’t see a single advert for years.

      Whatever you do, don’t sit down and ask “what’s on TV?”. Record stuff you want to watch, don’t watch anything else, because its a waste of your time.

  45. 104
    A cynic says:

    Hmm, so Murdoch wants to replace state-sponsored journalism with Murdoch agenda journalism – sounds like ‘out of the frying pan and into the fire’ to me.

  46. 105
    The Admiral says:

    Ranting brings bad spelling/grammar….aghhhh!! sorry…..

  47. 111
    Anonymous says:

    He would say that!

  48. 112
    streamfisher says:

    Typical of the BBC to present this as Murdoch v the BBC, thus deflecting any criticism away from what they are really up to, the problem is (among others) which as been mentioned is the multi-platform push on the back of huge amounts of licence fee money which will and is strangling independent opinion and programme making. During the discussion on Newsnight I noticed in the background a screen with Eastenders emblazoned across it ???, a not so subliminal message for the plebs that your favourite soap could be at risk, 3.5 billion quid for Port Sunlight.

    • 322
      Axe The Telly Tax says:

      If adverts are good enough to fund Corrie then they are good enough to fund Eastenders ;-)

  49. 118
    Abolish the Licence Fee says:

    Your BBC1 Schedule for 29th August:

    8.00. BBC breakfast time
    9.00. BBC ‘news’
    9.05. Homes under the Hammer
    10.00 Do it up and Floggit
    11.00 Changing Rooms
    12.00 Celebrity Do it up and Floggit
    1.00 BBC ‘news’
    1.30 A bunch of old women sit around bitching about being fat.
    2.00 Masterchef
    2.30 Celebrity Masterchef
    3.00 Celebrity Masterchef Australia
    4.00 Appeal on behalf of Ethiopian orphans
    4.30 The weather forecast in Urdu
    5.00 Some intellectually-insulting quiz with Anne Robinson being rude to everyone
    6.00 BBC international ‘news’
    6.30 BBC local ‘news’
    7.00 Panorama: an investigation into gay discrimination in the workplace
    8.00 Eastenders: Phil gets violently drunk and stabs Ronnie. Minty bashes up Ian. Nick tries yet again to murder Dot. Patrick discover’s Jim’s crack habit. The Vic is struck by lightning.
    9.00 An appeal for Somalian refugees to come to Britain
    9.05 The Bishop of Lewes discusses the benefits of homosexuality in the clergy
    9.30 Africa Live! A two hour live special from the Congo on improvements to drinking water made possible thanks to Red Nose Day and the BBC.
    11.30: The Chief Rabbi and the Aga Khan discuss how Christianity has ruined Britain
    12.00: The weather forecase in Punjabi

    • 283
      Delia Smith says:

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      HAO ABAOUT

      2.00 Masterchef With Slimy Mayo
      2.30 Celebrity Masterchef With Slimy Mayo
      3.00 Celebrity Masterchef Australia With Slimy Mayo
      4.00 Global Masterchef Marsterklarse With Slimy Austritch Egg Mayo

      *

      ASTA

    • 284
      The Admiral says:

      I never said it was perfect…. Oh well, back to the DVDs……

      • 285
        Auntie Maudbasher says:

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        YOURS ABOLISHANISM WAS ADMIRABLE~BHODHEED

        Delia Smith Is A Bit of A Purrfeqktshanista

        AND NUFFING IN THIS WURLD IS PURRFEQKT ANYWAY

        SEW BAQK TU THE WELL AND WOT WAS NEVER SED

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        ASTA

  50. 122
    The Admiral says:

    Oh and by the way, if you think commercial TV is free, have you any idea how much the advertising budget adds to the things we buy? We’d have cheaper food clothing, you name it…..

    • 127
      streamfisher says:

      Nonsense, advertising leads to volume and competition and so cheaper commodities, or would you prefer a state run GUM shop circa 1950 Russia.

    • 129
      dead parrot says:

      The BBC is fucked. Bye bye BBC, your days are numbered.

      • 202
        Davey Cameron says:

        “I’m a supporter of the BBC. I’m a supporter of the licence fee”

        • 278

          “My cabinet have convinced me of the lack of viability of the BBC funding model in this economic crisis”….

        • 323
          Axe The Telly Tax says:

          Gordon Brown 1997

          “No more boom and bust”

          See how easy it is ;-)

        • 324
          Axe The Telly Tax says:

          Shortly after the 2010 election:

          We must lift the burden on the poorest people in this dire recession. No longer will a millionaire pay the same as a poor student or be thrown into prison for the non payment of this wicked tax under a Conservative government

          Cries of hear hear hearrrrrrr

  51. 125
    Troughing Piggies says:

    So it wasn’t James Murdoch attacking the BBC ?
    Yet another “fake” story bought into by the Media churnalists.
    And a very clever one as even Guido was fooled.
    Whoever mocked up the guy to look like Murdoch Jnr did a very good job.

  52. 143
    Sun Newspaper of Intelligent Folk says:

    Murdoch is a disgusting piece of shit. His contorted face eptomises what greed does to a person. This foul man and his disgusting family has done more damage to humanity than many Middle East dictators. And now we have his youngest son (how did he get the job?) moaning about the BBC – because he’s jealous and cannot get his Fagin fingers on more and more loot. The whole family need drowning in a cesspit.

    • 160
      Sod 'em all says:

      Fair enough. But can we drown the BBC in the cesspit as well? Is that too much to ask???

  53. 144
    lolol says:

    The BBC licence fee should be for the BBC and not because you have a tuner in your tv,if I want to watch tv other than the BBC why should I pay for the BBC when all I want to watch is ITV,SKY and other sat tv channels.

    • 152
      Anonymous says:

      Why should you pay income tax if you don’t use the services they fund?

      • 166
        nell says:

        The trouble is , our taxes, including all those stealth taxes that gordon has so creatively introduced over the last 12 years, are also used for things that are not services such as mp’s unjustified expenses and unwarrantably high salaries, not to mention gordon’s globetrotting as he tries to build an image of himself as the ‘international statesman’

        The tories have their work cut out when they win the election next year, not only with dealing with the BBC, getting the economy back on track and sorting out the war but also in rolling back the state so that it costs less money to run.

      • 277

        You don’t pay income tax, it’s extorted (with the threat of kidnap) like the license fee is.

    • 157
      chronic says:

      Because we are regarded as mugs.

  54. 149
    chronic says:

    BBC Public Announcement
    The recent criticism of the BBC content,funding and expansion is not a subject that the public should be concerned about. Due to your lack of intellect this debate is beyond your understanding and we the BBC will provide world class investigative journalists to ask all the questions we feel should be asked. If you the public start to think for yourselves most of our content will seem substandard so we recommend that you stop this practice for the sake of our inflated salaries.

  55. 172
    Engineer says:

    Murdoch has a commercial vested interest, so his words should be treated with some caution.

    The BBC is a great institution, and has served the country well, but it now has it’s faults. It sometimes falls short of it’s original duty to inform, educate and entertain.

    The only real basis on which a state broadcaster can be justified is if its output is balanced and impartial. It is perfectly in order to present opinion, indeed it is desirable that there is scope for all shades of opinion to be expressed, but only if it is clear that it is opinion, and not fact. News reporting must be factual and unbiased if it is to be of value, and interviews of political figures equally impartial. I believe that the bbc falls short of this at present, demonstrating o bias to the left. Would the recent reporting of Edward Kennedy’s death be the same in tone and quantity had the death been of a member of the Bush clan?

    There is overspending by some at the top of the BBC, and insufficient care is being taken to get value for license fee payers’ money. The obscene wages of Jonathon Ross, and the excessive spending on the retirement of a Jenny Abramski (£11,000 party – paid for out of the license fee) recently are cases in point.

    The bias in politics and attitude extend to other areas of the BBC’s output. It’s comedy, once a jewel in it’s crown, is now execrable. A senior manager recently stated quite openly that the BBC should be presenting drama with a left of centre slant (he is wrong – there should be balance).

    A personal whinge from an engineer – where are the documentaries on technological matters affecting the nation? There is a national debate about how we should supply our electricity in years to come, but the BBC coverage of this – such as it is – seems to be on the basis of ‘wind farms good. nuclear power bad’. It’s far more complex than that, but no coverage.

    The BBC should not be privatised or disbanded, it could be a great part of the nation, but it needs a really good shake-up.

    • 196
      Troughing Piggies says:

      Most News is not overtly Political it’s who, what, when, where, why dry facts about accidents, crime, celebrities, disasters, sport, events, etc.

      There’s a case to be made on reporting Politics but it still has to be made.
      Simply shouting bias doesn’t cut it.
      Why is the story wrong ? What was a lie and what wasn’t ? What was omitted and what was over-emphasised ? Who was interviewed and who wasn’t ? What was the prominance given and why ?
      If you can cite obvious cases with facts to back them up, not apocrypha, then that seriously damages the Beebs claims to be impartial. Namecalling won’t.

      You wish to see where a government puts most pressure on a broadcaster like the BBC we don’t have to look very hard.
      It’s almost always on the really crucial stuff like War.

      So is there a case that we are only hearing one side of the story about Afghanistan like we did in Iraq ? I’d say yes as those who wish to pull the troops out do not get a great deal of coverage to say the least.

      Though if you think that will change with Cameron who supports continuing the War then you may have missed the point.

      • 213
        • 226
          Troughing Piggies says:

          Question on spending IDS wants to talk about social breakdown.
          But you’re right just over a minute of QT is proof positive.
          If only IDS had actually been allowed to speak for any of that time ?

          Come on. Politicians of all sides have been moaning about QT since Robin Day and Sissons. It’s part of the game. Spin it if you can’t win it.

          I agree that QT does give some Politicians short shrift and Dimblebore is not the greatest host on earth. But the most obvious bias in QT comes from the Questions themselves and how they are framed much more than how a politician handles them or Dimblebores occasionally erratic time allocation.

          Harperson squeaking “rubbish” does not a cast iron case make.
          She damages NuLabour the longer she speaks anyway.

        • 230
          Curious says:

          Harperson tapping Dimbledore on hand, and Dimbledore immediately interrupting IDS is surely the point.

        • 256
          RobC says:

          I watched the original prog and was amazed at Harman’s blatant prompting followed by Dimbleby’s reaction.
          I was disgusted because up to that moment I thought that question time,although it always has a preponderance of left wingers on the panel with the occasional token tory or right winger thrown in,was chaired by someone,like his father, who respected all views and was not a Labour party stooge.I was obviously sadly mistaken.

        • 262
          Engineer says:

          The Kennedy one is of passing interest. The PM programme carried a piece last night referring to the Chappaquiddick incident. The flavour was that it was a youthful indiscretion. I wonder if it would have been presented that way had the young politician involved been a member of the Bush clan?

          As to Cameron’s ‘honeymoon’, I suspect it won’t last as long as those accorded to Bliar or Broon – but we’ll wait and see.

        • 265
          Engineer says:

          Posted in error – see below.

      • 229
        Engineer says:

        Troughing Piggies at 12:09pm.

        Your post gives the impression that you have some knowledge of, or interest in, BBC broadcasting. Perhaps you are a BBC employee. Given the strong views expressed by others on this thread, it seems odd that you have chosen my post to resond to.

        I have no political affiliation; I am not, and have never been, a member of any political party; and my politics are fairly neutral (I find many of the comments on this blog rather extreme for my taste). I have listened to BBC news for as long as I can remember, just to be informed of what is happening in Britain and around the world. My views on BBC impartiality – or lack of it – are formed by what I hear. I don’t listen to all the BBC’s output because I have other things I have to do, like make a living.

        It is clear to me that there is a slant to much BBC current affairs output. It has become obvious in the way that James Naughtie (for example) conducts interviews – government ministers and spokesmen get an easy ride, but their opposition equivalents are interrogated. Edward Stourton and Eddie Mair are much more balanced.

        Whether this bias stems from Government pressure or from the left-liberal leaning of the pool of people from whom the BBC draws it’s journalists and senior staff, I don’t know. I have heard it said that the BBC only advertises in the Guardian (a paper with a known political leaning). Perhaps it would be wiser to place the same advertisment in all the quality dailies, thus removing suspicion that the BBC wishes to fish only in the left-of-centre pond.

        Your point about building a body of evidence is a fair one, and I suspect that people with more time than I may well be doing just that. It would be interesting to see what they come up with; I note that Curious has posted a Youtube clip above, which would seem to support some of my comments, albeit rather sensationally presented.

        • 241
          Ratsniffer says:

          I remember watching that programme when it was broadcast and being astonished at the way Harpic tapped Dimblebum on the arm and he immediately interupted IDS. He should have turned to her and told her to get her stinking slimey talons off his new suit.

        • 246
          Troughing Piggies says:

          Broadcasting yes. BBC no. I get most of my News from another source but I still catch some BBC and Sky and some US Network News when I can.

          Sure, I myself have heard Naughtie and at times thought “come on! put the boot in!” but other times he does manage if not to squeeze blood from a stone (being a straight answer from a Minister) at least make it obvious they are waffling or dissembling. It varies and both Parties get it. Same with Paxo and Kirsty (though she’s a bit tame on the Govspods mostly) I’d just caution against blanket statements any time though and overegging the pudding just makes the case far weaker.

          Let’s at least be adult about this and admit a great deal of this is simply Party Positioning. When the Conservatives are out of Power the BBC is always a target and it can lay the blame at the BBC’s door and push as hard as it can so it can hope to get far better press when in Power. Labour did the same. It’s part of the game. So any reporting on Labour is too tame and any reporting on the Conservatives is too harsh. It’s entirely understandable from a PR point of view but to deny there’s a large element of that is childish.

          When Cameron gets in Power he will have a better press and the BBC will be a bit more accomodating. But what he won’t get is the Press and the Media and the BBC becoming part of Conservative Central Office issuing PPB’s every night disguised as News with hagiographic profiles of how wonderful he is day and night. And though some are trying to claim that’s what Labour are getting they are wrong.

          If the Media and BBC was a complete arm of the Labour Press Office there would be NO stories about Brown and Libya just now. No stories about the Economy being up shit creek. No stories highlighting the skyrocketing unemployment and plenty of Mandelsonian crap with fake stories about hard working families bravely soldiering on thanking Brown for his wonderful Leadersip.

          Nobody will get that kind of News in the UK.
          Not Brown not Cameron not anyone.
          The BBC aren’t about to turn into FOX News or the Socialist Worker.
          It’s degrees and emphasis and a balance. Not black and white. Brown does get bad press and damaging stories from the BBC. It’s simply that some here want it to be all bad press for Brown and good press for Cameron rolling News 24/7 and that’s not going to happen even if the BBC vanished.

        • 255
          Engineer says:

          As to whether the Conservatives get an easier ride if elected next time, well we’ll wait and see.

          It worries me a little that the whole BBC establishment is rather left-leaning. I’d rather see more effort on being neutral, and being seen to be neutral. Maybe it’s prevalent across broadcast media circles, in which case, the management of the BBC must work harder to be seen to be impartial and balanced.

          I think it has a problem to address; I wish it would address it.

        • 259
          Troughing Piggies says:

          Cameron will get better press at least for a while.
          They all get a honeymoon period.

          I note that Guido blogged on Brown’s PR visit not too long after I had said Afghanistan was likely to be where the bias was most obvious.

          Watch the reporting tonight on the News. See how much prominence is given to those who want the troops pulled out. And remember more than two thirds of people in Britain believe UK troops should pull out of Afghanistan.

          What you’ll also see tonight is a great deal of coverage of the Kennedy funeral. I’m afraid simply saying the BBC is covering this because Kennedy is a Liberal doesn’t cut it either. It’s big News and you will see a parade of who’s who of US and World Politics to prove it. Kennedy is a big name and is News. Were it a Republican as famous and with as many World Leaders and US big names attending it would get the same coverage. Even FOX News will be going big on this and you can hardly claim they are lefty’s.

        • 264
          Engineer says:

          The Kennedy one is of passing interest. The PM programme carried a piece last night referring to the Chappaquiddick incident. The flavour was that it was a youthful indiscretion. I wonder if it would have been presented that way had the young politician involved been a member of the Bush clan?

          As to Cameron’s ‘honeymoon’, I suspect it won’t last as long as those accorded to Bliar or Broon – but we’ll wait and see.

        • 268
          Troughing Piggies says:

          Say Chappaquiddick to anyone familiar with US Politics and they know instantly what you are talking about. It’s famous and it’s always going to be so. I didn’t see the report so I don’t know whether they did say a woman died or not.

          “I wonder if it would have been presented that way had the young politician involved been a member of the Bush clan?”

          Interestingly there WAS indeed a member of the Bush clan who killed someone in a car crash in murky circumstances. And that is barely known at all never mind a byword like Chappaquiddick or even reported as a youthful indiscrection.

          Laura Bush ran a stop sign in the Texas crash that killed a friend in another car. The speed of Laura Bush’s car was illegible on the report. The speed limit for the road was 55. There was no drink test or charge filed.

          She was the First Lady not President but definitely a member of the Bush clan and the coverage of what she had done was almost non-existent. Do we really believe if Michelle Obama had killed someone in such circumstances FOX News wouldn’t have said a word ?

        • 293
          Troughing Piggies says:

          Say Chappaquiddick to anyone familiar with US Politics and they know instantly what you are talking about. It’s famous and it’s always going to be so. I didn’t see the report so I don’t know whether they did say a woman died or not.

          “I wonder if it would have been presented that way had the young politician involved been a member of the Bush clan?”

          Interestingly there WAS indeed a member of the Bush clan who killed someone in a car crash in murky circumstances. And that is barely known at all never mind a byword like Chappaquiddick or even reported as a youthful indiscrection.

          Laura Bush ran a stop sign in the Texas crash that killed a friend in another car. The speed of Laura Bush’s car was illegible on the report. The speed limit for the road was 55. There was no alkyohol test or charge filed.

          She was the First Lady not President but definitely a member of the Bush clan and the coverage of what she had done was almost non-existent. Do we really believe if Michelle Obama had killed someone in such circumstances FOX News wouldn’t have said a word ?

        • 297
          Engineer says:

          Not quite comparable, in that Laura Bush is not, and has not been, (so far as I am aware) a holder of elected high political office. I’m quite sure that if this incident had occurred during Dubya’s presidency, we would have heard a great deal about it. I assume that it occurred during her younger life. Did anything of like nature occur to Kennedy’s wife during her younger life?

          With Fox News and the like, you know you are going to get a political slant. My point is that the BBC, being a publicly-funded public service broadcaster, has an absolute responsibility to impartiality. I believe it fails to deliver that.

  56. 177
    Sun Newspaper of Intelligent Folk says:

    BBC: £142.50 pa. To a dedicated group of UK creative people for a range of excellent TV and Radio programmes and websites.

    Sky: £550 pa. To a greed encrusted ‘ foreign’ family empire for a range (apart from sport) of repeats, puerile programmes and some of the longest adverts in television.

    • 192
      Moley says:

      Sky, £550.00 p.a + £142.50 tax.

    • 193
      backwoodsman says:

      Rather missing the point chum, what upsets people is paying £140 quid for a years supply of nulab propaganda. Unless the bbc addresses that issue, beeboid supporters have a problem

      • 197
        Rebekah Wade says:

        I used to watch that Davy Attenborough bloke.

        But since he made that Labour propaganda piece about socialist insects in the undergrowth I’ve refused to pay my dog License fee.

        • 208
          An admiring troll says:

          LOL look at the beeboid spin for all he’s worth.

          I thought you loved multiculturism??? So why can’t we spend our money giving other cultures employment.

          COMPUTE ERROR COMPUTE

          why you trying to play the nationalist card, when the beeb is an international service??

          Can you not handle the fact the curtains are closing??

          People in America and Australia and throughout the EU getting to watch the BBC for free while we mugs in the UK are forced to pay it??

          And yet in this age where the world is a far smaller place due to technology, multiculturism, globalisation etc. etc. you expected it to last forever without people complaining LOL.

          Awwwwww

        • 210
          An admiring troll says:

          First thing i’d do with the money saved from the BBC fee being scrapped would buy a nice fat yearly subscription to ESPN

        • 227
          arse admiring troll says:

          ZOMG! LOLz0rz

          Beeboid beeboid beeboid bleats the Murdochian shiteating droid LOLLOLOL

    • 243
      Gobshite says:

      The only correct coment so far. But i must admit that BBC Radio needs to be sorted. I’m 37 so to old for Radio 1 & that tosspot moyles and to young for Radio 2 & “top of the morning” terry. My only option is Radio 4 and my collection of Led Zeppelin bootlegs.

  57. 205
    Moley says:

    The problem can be simply stated.

    There is no mechanism to change the BBC when it no longer does what the public want it to.

    Political correctness has suppressed public debate and the only freely expressed channel for the expression of public opinion is the privacy of the ballot box. The results of the last (local and EU) election speak for themselves.

    Labour and the Tories have so many identical policy areas (e.g.BBC, NHS) that the electorate has no choice.

    If the Tories are FOR open primaries, why not combine them, at no extra cost, with a referendum on policy issues such as the BBC and its license fee?
    Local referanda will have the advantage that media campaigns will not take place and will not pervert the result.

    • 211
      Charlie Whelan ate my hampster says:

      <>

      Surely the election of Prize Berk-ow as Speaker underlines the potential for mischief if just anyone is allowed to choose candidates at open primaries?

      • 219
        Moley says:

        Just anyone didn’t choose Bercow, he was chosen by the Parliamentary Labour party who had a majority.

        The key word is “Open”, as in “open primaries”.

  58. 206
    TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

    “Unlimited funds and no need to make a profit” – got that truly nailed in one Guido. And just paying lip service to accountability too – Woss got Weinstated 3 months after being disgWaced (committed a criminal offence you or I would have been done for) – even Mandy had to wait a few years before he similarly minced back in like nothing had happened. Their salaries tell you their paymasters show the same contempt for taxpayers money as MP’s too.

  59. 207
    Charlie Whelan ate my hampster says:

    All right-thinking people (in both senses of the phrase) should refuse on pricicple to pay their propaganda tax to the BBC. The national broadcaster’s slanted and partial coverage of all the big issues of the day, esp the EU and “Climate Change” (both liberal boondogles fo the first order) is a national disgrace.

    It’s essential that if the incoming Govt can’t purge the BBC from top to bottom, change its ethos, and slim it down by at least 60%, they should abolish it – as a priority. If left to its own devices, with current leadership, staff and recruitment, it will serve only as an enemy of any democratically elected Govt which is not NuLab (forgive the pun).

    I won’t even start to comment on their policy towards our national sport and long-standing obsession, horseracing

  60. 209
    FrogDog says:

    The BBC is breaking the terms of its charter and as such we are well within our rights to decline to pay the licence fee until such a time that it returns to the terms of its charter.
    See http://www.tpuc.org/stoppayingtvlicencefees

    • 220
      Moley says:

      A large number of people have already stopped paying, (including me).

      Why do you think the BBC keeps asking for licence fee increases despite the increase in income which comes from every new house and flat?

      • 223
        Anonymous says:

        They’ll get you in the end. Don’t think you’ve got away with it. And if you’re still watching BBC and not paying anything you’re just a thief!

        • 228
          Licence fee refusenik says:

          I’ve stopped paying too.

          Unlike Anonymous 218, however, I can conceive of a life without the box in the corner, so they won’t “get me in the end”.

          I am tempted to pay up and plug in a TV card for election night 2010, though. It will be worth £140 quid of anyone’s money to watch their disappointment…

        • 245
          Moley says:

          They won’t.

          Not paying a TV licence is not an offence.

        • 248
          Moley says:

          And after Ross, I have boycotted everything to do with the BBC including all their websites which are absolutely pitiful. The internet does far better news coverage elsewhere.

          I find life without the BBC an improvement for everyone in the family and I heartily recommend it.

  61. 212
    An admiring troll says:

    The beeb never stops telling us we’re all one, we’re all equal etc. etc.

    Funny that no one else in the world has to pay for their services though……

  62. 214
    Katabasis says:

    The final death blow for the Beeb was when it was forced to its knees to suck the government’s cock over the Kelly/Gilligan affair.

    • 221
      Moley says:

      I thought the final blow was the refusal of management to instantly sack Ross.

    • 244
      HMG says:

      Are you implying the government’s cock is syphilitic or HIV-ridden, not just fetid as expected?

  63. 222
    The Sun - for chavs and read by chavs says:

    The BBC is by far the best quality broadcasting medium in the world and well worth the paltry 0.39p per day. In fact the licence fee should be greatly increased and the BBC should purchase the Premier FA matches and take them away from the foul, greed contorted face of Murdoch and his Fagin fingered empire.

  64. 233
    smilie in your stout says:

    How to lose the Election for the Tories part 3:

    Launch a full scale attack on the Tories at the behest of the Murdoch Empire.

    This really is the pot calling the kettle black. How much access to their satellite monopoly do the Murdoch’s allow thrusting young media entrepreneurs? Er – none if it threatens any of their channels or deals with other outlets.

    Why should opera buffs enjoy ad free listening but not discerning rock, pop and hip hop fans?

    Why should news and speech be privileged as being paid for by the licence payer?

    I think we need a better approach.

    1. Create some competition for the BBC in terms of quality, not quantity. So some of the licence fee should go into rival radio and TV corporations which would be completely independent of the BBC – maybe BBC Radios 6 and 7 for instance and BBC 3 on TV could be hived off.

    2. Force the BBC to open up its wonderful TV archive, so licence payers get their money’s worth.

    3. Have more independent production and open competitions.

    4. Create an appointments board to weed out the liberal-leftie bias in appointments.

    How to lose the election the Tories part 1 was, in case you have forgotten: Threaten public sector pensions. Part 2 was attack the NHS.

    How to win the election:

    - Show how you are going to row back on the PC nanny state.

    - Show how you are going to bring freedom and pleasure to people’s lives.

    - Show how you are going to simplify government, tax and benefits.

    - Show how you are going to reform the welfare system.

    - Show how you are going to sort out the criminals, thugs and layabouts who make people’s lives a misery in so much of our land.

    - Show how you are going to stop mass immigration.

    - Show how you are going to stop Shariah and roll it back wherever it has got a grip.

    - Show how you are going to give young people jobs.

  65. 239
    Ratsniffer says:

    It’s a shame it takes a man raised in America to have the balls to tell the BBC how crap they are. Cameron, are you listening? How about connecting some jump leads to Murdoch so he can charge you up a bit, eh? Give you some balls? The BBC needs sorting. They are a rat’s nest of marxists, over staffed, over paid and over-sized.

    Whatever they tell you at dinner parties, Dave, they HATE tories and as far as they are concerned you may be a lesser evil, but you are still Tory. They think they can tame you, by appealing to your liberal side, and soon they’ll have you as their pet poodle, shmoozed and Polly’d and celebed and wined and dined, trebles all round – business as usual.

    Don’t fall for it. Take the young Murdoch for lunch instead and listen carefully to what he says…he is bang on the money. Grow some. Sort out the Beeb.

    • 247
      TheSun says:

      Stupendously Big Jiggling Titties!

    • 249
      Porky Pie MP says:

      Completely disagree. The BBC are by far the best and most unbiased media service in the world. Can you name me any media service that is as good, let alone better, than the BBC?

      By the way, Murdoch didn’t say the BBC were crap but complained that they were better than his organisation because of the licence fee. He thinks it unfair that the public purse is paying for quality whilst his organisation can only produce puerile nonsense because it is funded by advertising – and at present his advertising contracts are disappearing as quick as you can say ratsniffer.

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        The BBC are kuntz says:

        Utter fucking crap. Eastenders, Stictly Come in my pants and Casualty is top quality TV is it?

        The BBC is full of left wing shitbags who are all card carrying members of the Liebour party scum.

        As for BBC news, they haven’t got a fucking clue. Remember that shit head Mark Easton spouting on about knife crime then the following day having to back track when it turned out Mong boy from Scotland had ordered the figures released knowing they were wrong? Everyone knows crime is going UP not fucking down, except Easton who simply eats Brown’s turds for breakfast.

      • 254
        Porky Pie MP says:

        Still waiting? Can ANYBODY name a better media organisation than the BBC. Yes and that’s including the organisation owned and controlled by the ugliest most foul and greedy man in the world – Murdoch!

      • 270

        Your argument is this
        “It’s So good people won’t willingly and voluntarily pay for it”

        What a twat you are.

    • 260
      RobC says:

      Seconded

      • 288
        The Admiral says:

        Don’t understand this. Are you saying you pay £500+ for Sky crap AND watch adverts all the way through?

    • 325
      Axe The Telly Tax says:

      Sound advice my friend ;-)

  66. 250
    The BBC are kuntz says:

    The easiest way to fix the BBC is to turn up at Television Centre with a Flame Thrower.

  67. 267
    Anonymous says:

    You are quite right to point out that the tories do not seem to have a coherent strategy to help make Rupert Murdoch even richer. This should be a cornerstone of the next manifesto.

  68. 282
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    James Murdoch, age 37, Chairman and Chief Executive of News Corporation entirely on his own merits and nothing to do with the fact that he coincidentally bears the same surname as Rupert Murdoch. This is getting as bad as the Benns and the Bushes.

  69. 286
    David says:

    See too the effect of the publicly funded dead hand of the British Council on educational data publishing, educational consultancy, local language schools etc.

  70. 289
    Odds Bodkins says:

    Cameron has made one or two mildly encouraging noises in the past but has been a bit of a wet wanker overall when it comes to the BBC.

    I wish he would get himself some balls and backbone and start laying into the parasitical BBC like he means it.

    I originally thought he was being quite astute by being seen to hold back from outright criticism [of the BBC] but it now it comes across as cowardice. Almost everything else has had to come into the real world and face some real competition: telecoms, steel/car production… so why not broadcasting. And while we’re at it the NHS.

  71. 290
    A firm pair of breasts in the city of London says:

    Murdoch would have us pay for news content on the internet, with the effect that if you can’t pay you’ll remain ignorant of events. I guess he want’s an information underclass and thus a force of cheap labour.

  72. 291
    Scenic says:

    Enjoyed watching the final of the Challenge Cup this afternoon, a Northern working class mans game, presented of course by a fat upper class lesbian equestrian with no history of any interest in the game, which adequately sums up the BBC attitude to everything. Appoint the exact opposite type of presenter on every program to make a smug right on political point – football focus? An Asian presenter with no real football experience, BBC Sports editor? A fat little Indian, Kids TV presenter? A gangsta rapper or a limbless lady please.

    BBC. Stop. Fucking. Lecturing. Us.

  73. 300

    Another Murdoch, same diseased ranting. Fruits fall close to the tree.

  74. 302
    Les Abbey says:

    Guido says hurt the Beeb to help Murdoch. I guess if we don’t do that Murdoch’s regurgitating of subscription internet news is going to go down the pan like other attempts at doing this. What’s up Guido, looking for a job on the Sun?

  75. 330
    Andy says:

    I like the BBC, they are are not bad value for money compared to a BSkyB subscription and the Times for a year. At least they make programmes. some of my best memories of TV are Beeb (or Beeb) supported productions & while we have the Beeb, it keeps the news on the net free… much as its far from perfect. its better than the Murdoch tripod, stealth increasing his micro payments to macro payments and owning a monopoly of our news bandwith that he can do what the hell he likes. their personal politic leave much to be desired and if you trim the BBC, the monopolys commision should knock on the doors of News Corp. Oh! and while there at it HM Rev and customs could do with a honest stab at some tax.

    Even Citizen Kane would tremble.

    Murdoch’s success has resulted in the dumbing-down of the media, with quality entertainment and journalism replaced by mindless tosh.

    he sells psuedo porn with one hand and the bible with the other. you can have your cake and eat it… till the bambino’s fight over the empire and bring the whole house of cards down around his ears.

    I am not so much Pro BBC as anti Murdoch.

  76. 331
    Anonymous says:

    what a silly comment



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