Blair on Powell
When Enoch Powell died Tony Blair led the tributes:
“He was one of the great figures of 20th-century British politics, gifted with a brilliant mind.”
February 9, 1998
Now what was it Mandelson was saying?
Via Mark Reckons
UPDATE : Here is what Hannan wrote for the Telegraph in 2007 on the subject of how “any reference to Enoch Powell provokes huge controversy“
For what it’s worth, I think Enoch Powell was wrong on immigration. The civil unrest that he forecast, and that many feared in 1968, didn’t materialise. Britain assimilated a large population with an ease that few countries have matched. Being an immigrant myself, I have particular cause to be grateful for Britain’s understated cosmopolitanism.
Now labour wouldnt want facts to get in the way
Powells’ concerns are clearly those of many former labour voters, after all, all those b & p supporters haven’t legged it from my local Conservative Association, thats for sure !
Bliar is still a c’unt though isn’t he ?
C’unt? He’s still a devious, fake, insincere, war-mongering, stranger from the truth. I loathe him so much it makes me feel ill. I could add to that a list including, Blunkett, Reid, Mandelscum, Straw, Hain, Johnson, Kelly, Blears, McShane, N Brown, Murphy, etc etc, Alistair Campbell comes at the top, with blair, and finally I have to include our ‘revered’ jaw droppingly dreadful leader, the gorgon.
Sorry, forgot the vile FFFFFFFoulkes.
A total one, for whom hell awaits in all its fury.
So Contessa, can Labour rely on your vote at the next General Election?
More Mandy Corfu dealings:
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/culture-media-and-sport/mandelson-s-filesharing-corfu-link-denied-$1321086.htm
Number one Knave. I suppose you need to be a knave these days to be in Politics. Its how low can you go thats the trick.
Indeed – Griffin’s not getting votes from the Tories, is he? He’s geting votes from those who live in areas where more than half the children in the local school can’t speak English, and where Eid-al-fitr is celebrated with more enthusiasm than Christmas
he’s not getting many votes from anywhere
don’t confuse a couple of of councilors and MEPs protest vote for real political clout
Britain will never vote for racists in any significant numbers in a real election
an extremist fringe party is still an extremist fringe party
Waht’s important is that the BandP are splitting the labour vote making Labour less likely to win the seat.
Now are UKIP taking the conservative vote?
Will UKIP voters feel that voting ABL is more important than voting UKIP?
The BNP are a bunch of pathetic losers who couldn’t split a Kit-Kat. UKIP will have more chance as long as Channel 4 doesn’t do a 24-hour Countdown special on election day.
depends on the polls because if it looks like an easy win or a landslide there’s bound to be quite a few conservatives voting ukip
and if lsibon goes through, blair gets made eu president and Mr cameron shuts down any and all talk of europe during the election campaign ?
quite a few might turn into a significant amount
Don’t kid yourself about the party I can’t mention without being moderated not taking votes from the Tories.
Quite a few end up there after they’ve voted UKIP and found they’ve been conned yet again.
It is Mandelson after all, No ethics, no morals, no respect, no honesty…….Do I have to go on.
I am going to invite him to speak at the Hetrophobic Society dinner.
He is the People’s Princess.
Hetrophobia is one of the gravest problems we face in the West. It must be stamped out as the uniquely vicious and ugly form of prejudice it is. The worst Hate Crime of all.
No ethics, no morals, no respect, no honesty…….Do I have to go on.
That’s Bliar for you. All of the above.
Evil is one word in a nutshell
Have n’t you all seen the motto on my Coat of Arms ?
‘Virtus et Summa Potestas non Coeunt’
Before you jump to the wrong conclusion, the last word is not spelt CLINT
On Mandelson and Corfu;
Government denial.
“I believe they had dinner, but they absolutely didn’t discuss any peer-to-peer file-sharing,” a spokesperson said.
That is a million miles away from a declaration that nothing discussed at the dinner was relevant to the proposed legislation.
Submissions from the industry should be made in public, via the public consultation process, and not over private dinners in Corfu. Mandelson no longer cares about even the appearance of impartiality and avoidance of conflicts of interest.
“Mandelson no longer cares about even the appearance of impartiality and avoidance of conflicts of interest.”
Why should he?
The Police and legal system have been utterly corrupted by ZaNuLab.
As long as they are in power and for many years after they leave, the mess, corruption and cronyism will take years to recify.
By then of course, Fondlemince, Gordoom, Bliar et al, will all be old men or dead, so in effect they will have got away with their rape of democracy, our freedoms and the country.
And how the hell would some paid Government minion know what was said at a private dinner party in Corfu?, was he under the table with a mouthful of cock at the time.
More likely My Lord of Hartlepool did some peer-to-pier knob sharing.
In 1998 Blair could have probably praised Hitler and gotten away with it.
T. Blair might have said:
“Y’ know me, I’m a pretty straight kind of a guy. Hitler, well, he had his bad points, that’s true. But he did more to re-establish the Charlie Chaplin mustache in the 1940s than anyone else.”
He certainly loved a good war or two before breakfast
T.Bliar might even have said:
“And Y’know war can sometimes be painted as a bad thing if we only look at the negatives, but lets face it, all I’m really doing is making jobs for BAE. I’m just doing my bit for UK employment.”
Or perhaps
“Y’know, his employment policies may have been a bit harsh, but then he did manage full employment and built one of the best networks of motorways in the world… I have every intention of drawing on his and that wonderful Mr Goering’s policies on smoking and public health through better excercise and diet…”
Aint spin great…
Just because I’m a pedant…
The autobahn building program started before hitler.
“He was the People’s Dictator”
He was “The peoples’ pisstaker”, surely?
People’s War-faker ?
He is the People’s Traitor
He is the Peoples muckraker
He was dubya’s fellater.
Blair chose to join the political party he felt he could most easily get to the top of.
That’s because Liebore is filled with aging half-wit student union Marxists, so it was a cinch.
Tony Blair on Cherry Blair
……. put me off my cheese & chutney sandwich
He did. Ta’
Nice spot by Mark :)
Not sure Mandleson can be understood anyway – it’s a bit hard for him to speak when he has a cock in his mouth all the time.
It’s not a cock, it’s a strapon in his mouth. The cock is up his arse. Whilst he commits fraud.
Christ, we have this deviant twat as #2 in government?
And a lying cowardly England-hating Marxist Scot as #1. Fuck, who voted for him?
who voted for him?, ahem, did somebody call?
It is often forgotten Brown is an English hater. Every other Scottish person I know who lives in London had their children born in London. Yet 3 times Brown sent his wife to Scotland to give birth. If ever there was proof he thinks there is something wrong with being English that was it.
No Englishman should ever vote for Labour with Brown as leader.
Bet the twats Austrian, anybody seen his birth certificate?
I thought Mandelslime was no.1 now, in practice. Gordoom is no longer in overall control. Hence the complete cock-up over the release of Megrahi – the SNP and Gordoom and Mandelslime are all trying to manoeuvre each other into the mire.
The papers have been full of Mandlescum recently and that really does do my head in. Nobody voted for him, he is a complete and utter cock and probably the most corrupt git in the United Kingdom. Yet this cock is running the fucking country while another unelected fucking deviant hides somewhere. If this is what a bloody government is nowadays then anybody who votes for it next May should be hung for treason.
The Ministry of Truth has been hard at work. History isn’t what it used to be!
Indeed! Left-wing political history seems to have quickly airbrushed out the following events:-
The notting Hill Riots of 1976
The brixton Rioting of 1981
The Toxteth rioting of 1981
The handsworth rioting in the mid 80s
The Tottenham rioting of 1985
The Bradford Rioting in 2004
52 murders on the tube trains 2005
Maybe immigration can be made to work, but multiculturalism cannot.
Take this left wing political historians bleatings for example:-
“For what it’s worth, I think Enoch Powell was wrong on immigration. The civil unrest that he forecast, and that many feared in 1968, didn’t materialise. Britain assimilated a large population with an ease that few countries have matched. Being an immigrant myself, I have particular cause to be grateful for Britain’s understated cosmopolitanism.”
Spot on.
The phrase ‘when in Rome, do as the Romans’ still holds true. For many however it is ‘when in Birmingham, make it like Islamabad’.
You forgot the Southall race riots.
you forgot the miners’ strike.
you remember, the one where thatcher’s shock police troops attacked and brutalised hardworking communities.
but regarding riots in this country, they keep occurring because the police are mainly white and do not like black people, and people, quite rightly will not put up with the police’s shit.
you could say the rioters are standing up for everyone’s right not to be bullied by the trigger happy police force we have in this country.
immigration is not the problem, bad policing is.
and before anyone starts thinking I am a lilly livered liberal I should also add that any foreign person who is convicted of a serious offence should serve their time and then be immediately deported upon completion of their sentence. they should also be automatically refused right of re-entry.
that would improve foreign peoples behaviour when they come here and would lead to a reduction in the amount crimes comitted by foreign criminals.
good one innit. we will have to get out of the EU to do this but as the protection of the citizens and residents of this country is the governments primary duty we should be able to find a way forward on the issue.
tat, our police may not be perfect, but compared to Spanish, French, American and Arab police they are very nice poeple indeed.
Yes they did fuck up the miners’ strike though.
I am quick to back up the police when they are dealt with shabbily by politicians.
however our police have got into the habit of bashing and killing peaceful protesters and shooting innocent civilians in the head, they also frequently detain unlawfully peaceful protesters and they recently badly assaulted Brian Haw for no reason other than they wanted to.
that is not nice steve, due to the politicisation of the police they are behaving in a thuggish and criminal way on a daily basis.
not good enough for a British police force steve, just not good enough.
policing int this country is based on consent: I suggest that if the police keep acting like thugs that consent will evaporate.
they are not all bad ofcourse, there are many decent coppers doing a great job but the bad apples must be removed.
Agreed tat (for the first time in ages!!)
Steve Expat, the British police were once regarded (quite rightly) as the best in the world. Some decades later, they were regarded as the best force in Europe.
The fact that you can only string together a handful of disparate countries now from around the world that you claim have better forces than in the UK speaks volumes. – and by the way, I’d say the Spanish police are way better in 2009 than the British. It breaks my heart to see the way the British police have turned towards evil over the last 30 years or so. I guess they have to, though, to crush the righteous uprising that is on the horizon.
JC, the forces I mentioned are in countries where I have lived and therefore have first hand experience, rather than just read about in the press.
In Spain there are several different kinds of police, but certainly the “Guardia Civil” that police large crowds are less than friendly. They carry machine guns, tear gas and large shields, and from experience seem to inflame crowds as much as keep control of them.
Remember the British police are the only ones in the world not routinely armed, that an unlawful killing by the police in Stockwell made as many headlines as it did is testament to the fact that it so rarely happens.
Yes there are a few bad apples (covered up numbers and excessive use of batons at the G8 protests etc) but we really do have the best behaved police in the world in the UK. One death is too many but there are less here than elsewhere, and our press are good at holding them to account when they occur.
Riots in our country occur because we tolerate bloody foreigners and their drug dealing workshy offspring sponging off our welfare system. They don’t like it when their rackets get cracked down on.
I’ve got no time for the police, but neither do I want drugs peddled on my street corner, or a yardie gang culture invading my country.
Have you played that game where the BBC reports a crime, then you guess the nationality of the offenders? Like say gang rape, drug dealing, stabbing a teacher, shooting a policewoman?
Too soft here.
Don’t forget the murders, rapes, drugs, muggings, burglaries and pimping.
It’s not ’social unrest’, of course. Just everyday life in multiculti Britain.
Bring back Regan and Carter ;-)
We’re The Sweeney and we haven’t had any dinner
Where’s the blag you slag?
Shut it! Your nicked sunshine
You forgot the Bradford riots in 1995 and 2001, as well as the particularly enthusiastic mass burning of a certain book by Salman Rushdie……
Don’t forget the Trumpton Riots in 1986.
Someone even wrote a song about them.
Yeah, but Blair was liked. Was successful, and he got out at the right time.
So that’s two admirers he’s got,you and Bush
four.
Mandy and Dave
Not by me, he wasn’t!! I spotted him as an arch-hoon as soon as I realised who he was!
The actual quote, just in case anyone wants a sense of balance:
“However controversial his views, he was one of the great figures of 20th-century British politics, gifted with a brilliant mind. However much we disagreed with many of his views, there was no doubting the strength of his convictions or their sincerity, or his tenacity in pursuing them, regardless of his own political self-interest.”
The use of the phrase “regardless of his political interests” should be a reminder to everyone as to how carefully Blair considered his words.
Blair would not have considered Powell “gifted with a brilliant mind” if he thought that everything he said was complete rubbish.
Everything the fake blair said was for his audience, his theatrical audience. He hasn’t got an original bone in the whole of his vile, insincere, body.
He was a failed actor who found his true calling on the Political stage where the greasepaint and footlights are replaced with greasy dealings and the TV camera
Wasn’t he some sort of lawyer? Covers all of the above.
BC: every word of that splendid comment is true.
bc, so you’re not Bliar’s best fan I take it?
I heard Powell speak once… in Birmingham. I was near the front of the audience, and he radiated a kind of shaky charisma… The topic was something like ‘Britain, or Britain in Europe’… Can’t be sure… but it was stirring patriotic stuff and nothing to do with immigration. I found the speech and his demeanour… barely reined in barking emotion… brilliantly judged in performance, and profoundly disturbing. When he had finished I swear he had a tear in his eye. I will refrain from making further comparisons, but I judged him a dangerous critter, and felt he could sell fridges to eskimos.
Some politicians do seem to invoke an emotional camaraderie that dupes their followers into a blind discipleship. Presumably Hitler could. I have seen and was sickened by Blair and Obama, as they performed the same emotional trick. It is immensely dangerous.
thank god call me Dave doesn’t have it
All dead people are nice, but watch out for the quick fuckers.
A lot of them are dead nice, you’re saying?
O/T
just hearing on radio that teenager got A* in exam even though she did no course work and only spent 25 minutes doing exam before walking out of exam room upset.
what a way to go, nulab education for all works….at what price for these kids????
Must have spelled her name correctly at the top of the sheet.
I thought that was all they had to do. Don’t the mums and dads do the work for them so they make sure they’ve got it in the bag before then. I certainly know one or two who have. One mum is right depressed cos’ she doesn’t know what to do with herself now all the kids have got to Uni. Best educated mum not sure about the kids though.
There is an element of difficulty spelling her surname – which father?
That’s a lovely story about how an upset student was gifted a Grade A pass. There are guardian angels. Thanks for sharing it with us.
Yes it was quite cheering wasn’t it?
My eyes are watering… must be dust in the room…sniff…sob….
I’m affected the same way too.
It was an A* level in Truancy.
Under Labour, children have become so well schooled that they are brilliant at everything without needing to put any time or effort in. Just look at the new GCSE passes out today! Nu Labour has worked absolute wonders on our young people’s academic standards!
They’ve a lot to be grateful for.I hope thet remember that when they get to vote.
Learning is tantamount to cruelty for this generation of children. It all started with Janet and John, and learning with pictures. Words have been denigrated in favour of pictures.
78. ‘Janet and John’? Blimey, you’re going back a bit. It’s been Chardonnay and Ahmed for the last 20years
Janet and John is no longer allowed.
John and John, is OK.
Janet and Janet are OK.
Janet and John are heterosexual stereotypes which brainwash children into prejudice against same sex relationships, thus denying them the right to choose for themselves their own sexuality.
So that means ALL the markers are in on the scam, then? Are they paid extra for all the fake A level passes they come up with? There must be one or two with the brains to post a comment and let the proverbial out of the bag. Let’s be hearing from you, guys and gals……….Oh, bugger. Have I just made a politically incorrect, sexist remark? Oh, please forgive me. I’m sorry. No, really, I am.
There’s no future for these kids in the ‘world of work’ anyway, so why waste money educating them? Honestly, what is the point?
Far better to fob ‘em and their parents off with a fake ‘education’ and just dish out certificates to make it look like something’s been achieved. Not just a Labour phenomenon, I feel obliged to add.
Remember, we’ve had policing on the cheap (‘Community Support Officers’) and Healthcare on the cheap (NHS Direct) – so what made you think Education would be any different? Does one still need a degree to become a teacher? I don’t think so!
Yes you do need a Degree.
However you don’t to become a HLTA, the school equivilent of the CSO.
Teaching on the cheap is alive and well for schools who want to do it. Luckily the school at which I have been a Governor for the best part of 20 years won’t.
With Balls as Education Secretary, does it matter? All university degrees will be worth less than Ronald MacDonald’s degree in hamburgerology.
I’m not sure what you mean by “still”. Back in the 70’s, a substantial proportion of teachers were not university graduates but held a teaching certificate for which the entry requirements were 5 O’levels. Therefore, at my grammar school, girls who didn’t have very good O’levels and might not manage to pass their A’levels were steered towards applying for teacher training. Those who did well on the course could then be considered for a fourth year and gain a B.Ed.
Teaching became a graduate only profession when Initial Teacher Training colleges were integrated into the University system. Obviously, the applicants then had to have a minimum of 2 A levels but, mercifully, school leavers were so much brighter by then that this didn’t present a problem.
Nowadays, even teaching assistant jobs are being pursued by graduates.
@Infanta, “Those who did well on the course could then be considered for a fourth year and gain a B.Ed.” Ed Balls again, wouldn’t you just know it.
At my Grammar school, the second-raters went to colleges of education and taught in primary or secondary modern schools. The brighter souls went to university and, if they went into teaching, usually did a one year teaching course after their degree, and then taught in Grammar or independent schools.
The brilliant Mary Goldring said on Radio 4 about 20 years ago that education would soon simply be a matter of throwing artificial pearls before real swine. Good on yer, lass. We salute you.
I feel obliged to add. Whereas they don’t.
What was the source of that story?
Wasn’t a phone in, and the bloke had heard the story down the pub?
I never did any course work for my O-levels either.
Ah Yes! Real ‘O’ Levels I Remember them well
Proper education with real exams. Those were the days.
it would be interesting to sit one of todays youngsters down and present them with an ‘O’ level or ‘A’level paper from 40 years ago. I wonder if they would be able to read it?
191. Its actually an analasys that I’ve never seen done. perhaps too dull.
It could be done quite easily in some science subjects. (although not the ones these days where you have to write a poem about how you’d feel if you were an electron).
There was a Channel 4 programme a couple of years back that recreated education systems over the years.
I remember watching a group who had just sat their GCSEs complaining about the hard paper they’d been given from the 1950s and did really badly.
It was only later that it was revealed that they’d actually sat an old 11+ exam.
Cantspellwontspell:
It’s been done. The subject of a documentary. Today’s kids simply couldn’t handle it. They’ve been sold-out into believing academic standards have actually improved!!!
Some years back – 10 or more – a chap at the Maths Institute in Warwick University went through 20 years’ of A level maths papers to compare them. His conclusion, even then, was that was getting progressively easier to get to get grades.
I think (although it was a long time ago) that when I did A level maths about 7% of entrants got an A. These days it’s north of 20%. Either kids are smarter, they’re better taught or the exams are easier. My money’s not on the first two.
Of course its easy to pass exams these days, as courses are ‘modularised’. The poor dears only have to remember the facts that have been drilled into them for a couple of weeks by teachers who are only focussed on churning out exam-passers.
So, the kids get their good grades, the teachers and the schools get good positions in the league tables, and everybody is happy, at least in the Nulab world.
For everybody else, especially employers who will need skilled, literate staff, the state education system continues to fail.
“However controversial his views,” Tony Blair said, “he was one of the great figures of 20th-century British politics, gifted with a brilliant mind.
“However much we disagreed with many of his views, there was no doubting the strength of his convictions or their sincerity, or his tenacity in pursuing them, regardless of his own political self-interest.” Mr Powell was one of a number of monetarist Treasury ministers who resigned from Macmillan’s government in 1957; he was sacked from Edward Heath’s shadow cabinet almost 30 years ago …
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4902564.html
He was also one of the best Ministers (we didn’t have pompous self regarding “secretaries of State in the days) of Health this Country ever had.
Powell was also, I assure you, quite flakey, a fruit cake… an Eccles cake even.
Intellectual brilliance and an being an academic at a young age is not necessarily a recommendation for being PM, and certainly for being ‘the best PM we never had’. Don’t a lot of political nearly men aspire to that moniker. Powell wept at his own oratory… Oh dear me no!
He was the People’s Powell. Queen of all our Hearts
Great spot. I saw the interview with Dan Hannan last night and as soon as he mentioned Enoch Powell I knew that faux outrage would follow. The left and the right play under different rules: any mention of Enoch Powell in any context makes someone on the right of politics a racist, whilst a Labour foreign secretary can say that terrorism can be justified and praise someone like Joe Slovo and no protest will be heard. The left don’t play fair and smear as easily as breathe. Where are the investigations into Blair, Brown and Mandelson’s links to the release of al-Megrahi? Does anyone seriously believe antything will come of the Jacqui Smith police investigation? These people are our masters and they are above the law.
Quite so! 13
The Jackboot Jacqui Smith Police………. investigation, sounds like a non-starter, Damien Green on the other hand.
Who needs mcbride , when you have lord mandy
The original and still the best…or isthat the worst?
Depends on your point of view
I keep telling Labour MP’s this but they still don’t appear to have got the message.
Perhaps at the Party conference ?
Does exactly what it says on the spin.
Sorry, what Blair tribute? I can find no record of this in the Ministry of Truth. They have been “rectified”.
FFS – There’s not a Tony Blair tribute band is there?
Try Ministry of Sound, ref: fat boy in Ibiza vol 3.
Sorry Streamfisher, but not familiar with this genre of music. More a bluesman myself. Which sets me thinking – an all-star Labour blues band.
Half-blind Gordy McBrown,
Sonny Boy Millipede,
Howlin’ Harperson,
Loonie Johnson,
Blind Lemon (add any Labour MP name here),
Peetie Jackstraw,
etc.,
Anyone got other suggestions?
Apart from fuck off?
Leadbelly Prescott.
Not too many politicians were professors of Greek at the age of 25, enlisted in the army in wartime as private soldiers and rose to become brigadiers, published books of prose and poetry in English, Greek and Welsh, learned to speak Urdu, produced their own translation of St, Matthew’s Gospel…
A right thicko were that Enoch!
Yeah, and the lefties say those who oppose immigration are only doing so out of “ignorance” of other races!!
An excellent summary of the great man’s achievements Windsor Tripehound! When appointed, he was the youngest professor ever appointed at the University that I had the privilege to attend: Sydney. Sadly, I don’t imagine that many of the lectures that I attended (despite the high quality) reached the intellectual heights that Prof. Powell’s would have done some years earlier in the very same rooms!
He was an exceptionally clever and learned man. Newlabour are jealous of his academic skills. After all they are mainly thickos.
Powell wanted controlled immigration. There seems to be a lot of contrived outrage at a man that most people know nothing about.
Sad really for his ‘Rivers of blood’ speech as the media called it was a mistake which wrecked the career of a man with prophetic vision and a fierce loyalty for his country.
Indeed Contessa – in the ZaNuLabour book, learning and intelligence are anathema. They can’t risk having people who can think for themselves after all.
Excuse me, I think you’ll find that I am a man of enormous intellect and it is only my noble sense of duty to the electorate which has stopped me from taking up the plethora of academic appointments which I am offered on a daily basis.
It’s outragous!
It’s like trying to tarnish John Major because of that one “moment of madness” with Edwina Currie. I mean who even remembers that anymore ?
Powell was the best prime minister we never had
I couldn’t have put it better myself
Howay man, dinnit forget us lickspickle apparachicks an’ arl.
Blair has since clarified his remarks.
He was talking about Peter Powell the former Radio One DJ who people thought was dead.
He wasn’t he was just on Garrison FM.
I love the internet. 10 years ago Mandy would have told the journos what to write and not to bother digging. Can’t do that now.
Dead right, mate.
It was a joy to click on the site and see Fawkes’ instant rebutal. Thanks to the Blair quote, the Enoch story is dead on arrival.
The next election is going to be very difficult for Labour and the liberals embedded in the metropolitan press. It’s also 30 years since Labour found itself at the scene of its own economic crimes. They just don’t have a strategy for dealing with it.
I find it’s useless to point out to people that Enoch Powell never talked of ‘rivers of blood’. That quote was made up for him by the Press and has been gleefully recycled by the left/liberal establishment ever since.
Powell used a classical allusion from The Aeneid that went over the heads of most of us. “I seem to see the River Tiber foaming with much blood”. It was originally a specific prediction of serious violence and deaths. Powell was wrong; large-scale immigration did not lead to large-scale violence and ‘much blood’. Powell’s speech was not, as the Left like to make out, an incitement to violence but a sad prediction of the fallibility of human nature.
Powell was wrong; large-scale immigration did not lead to large-scale violence and ‘much blood’.
Depends what you mean by large-scale violence and ‘much blood’. Britain has not yet turned into Bosnia, but that doesn’t mean large-scale violence will not happen in the near future (20 years). A situation where you have a rapidly increasing Muslim population and a shrinking native population is a recipe for trouble, even if the political class didn’t hate their own civilisation and culture.
But what mass immigration has brought Britain up to now is a very considerable real increase in crime, and particularly nasty sorts of crime like gang rape, GBH against the old and children, crimes that were virtually unknown in Britain in the early 20th century.
Taking the Bosnian analogy a bit further, it is exactly what has happened in Kosovo. The “international community” has decided that the majority there, achieved by immigration and a high birthrate, should sever a province from Serbia.
What if the Welsh settled in Hereford and Worcester, bred like sheep (?) and then demanded union with Wales, after a bout of “independence”?
Having gratuitously offended the Welsh, I’ll get my coat…..
I think that’s where the Welsh came from in the first place Willie.
But your point is generally correct
What do you mean “if” we settle.
Round yer its Aberford isn’t it
“with sheep” surely?
Well its certainly an improvement on trying to breed with them
The spinners did exactly the same thing with that Mr. Afterdinnerjacket of Iran, too. He never said anything about “wiping Israel off the map.” A completely fictitious ‘quote’ and they just make these things up to suit themselves. Thank god for the internet; we don’t have to rely on the mainstream meja any more!
And Jim Callaghan never said “Crisis? what crisis?” but he will forever be associated with that and the bumbling economic mismanagement that provoked it.
And Denis Healey never said Silly Billy either.
Nor did Jimmy Tarbuck say, “As I said at the Blackpool Conference” in a mock Huddersfield (or should it be ‘uddersfield) accent.
Human beings are animals. Red squirrel v grey squirrel, something/one has to give, and why should the indigenous population?
And Tony never said there were any Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.
And John Precott never said he was a fat, adulterous, lying, incompetent, troughing, over promoted, ugly,useless, public punching apologist for Tony Blair.
Still true though.
Freddie Fowell never ate my hampster neither
No, it was paraphrased from his comments on a return from sunny climes in which he said he didn’t think that people overseas saw Britain as falling on its arse, or words to that effect.
The phrase ‘Crisis? What what crisis?’ came from the title of a Supertramp album (think Coldplay…piano-based, public school rock) of the mid-1970s.
The cover showed a chap on a deckchair under an umbrella as if on the beach, but in a grimy industrial landscape.
Oh, I remember Supertramp but their significance in the headline is new to me. So thanks for a nice summary of the linguistic origins.
Most enlightening Sir.
Ministry of Redaction.
Mandy could not lie straight in bed!
He lies continually elsewhere though.
Mandy said ‘ooh i luv a big brown cock and ballbag’
Essentially Powell has until now been proved completely wrong.
The product of his upbriginging where darkies lived in far off climes, he was wrong.
However the unchecked immigration policy of the NeoLabour vermin may well
cause very serious problems for Britain if it continues.
Take for instance the water supply in South East England.
We have the same rainfall as thirty/forty/fifty years ago despite so called global warming, but have vastly more immigrants using the precious resource.
Send the buggers back, and I am unanimous in that
I wouldn’t want to see ALL of them sent back. The Poles appear to be hard-working and sober types. But as for the rubbish from Africa that the BBC are so keen on (your Somali terrorists and Nigerian fraudsters and whatnot) yeah, stick ‘em on the first boat out. Then sink it mid Channel.
‘rubbish from Africa’ If it vere’nt for zem you would have parking. You ungrateful lot not
don’t bother with the boat bit, the French fly them and drop them off without landing the plane.
I think that whatever Mandelson is spinning on Hannan and by association Cameron & Co he ought to take a breath a realise that the majority of Labour’s Core Vote and quite a few others actually regard Powell as completely correct in his prognostications regarding immigration and that Powell was a patriot and decorated war hero.
The people of Barnsley, despite their reading of the Mirror, voted in large numbers for the party that must not be named.
The Mirror has forgotten that many in the ” so called working class” are highly intelligent and can think for themselves. They can see what Labour has done for them and do not like it one bit.
Mandelson is a complete cynic and hopes that the current generation has no political memory, and that he can smear Powell with impunity, relying on the fact that very few people will actually look up what Powell said, understand the historical and classical context in which he said it, and extrapolate from that whether he was in fact right about some things.
Below link to enoch’s ‘rivers of blood’ speech – text in full.
He speaks very wisely about the need for integration – for people who want to live here to integrate and live life our way. I agree with him. Although I am not an immigrant , some in my family are and we have always pursued the principle that we live in england and live life the english way. Enoch was right to make that point.
Labour’s multicultural policy has destroyed integration and set one community against another , divided by their differences. As with everything labour has touched , they divide, destroy and ruin.
Two things enoch said in his speech with which I agree – we need control of immigration and we need policies which encourage integration and protection and adoption of our english way of life. When in Rome………………….
Even if you disagree with enoch’s view you have to admit the man had an awesome intellect, sadly lacking in mp’s today.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/3643823/Enoch-Powells-Rivers-of-Blood-speech.html
Yep – with you all the way on that nell. Well written, thanks.
I like it when he hides behind apocryphal man and women on the street to say:-
“Windows are broken. She finds excreta pushed through her letter box. When she goes to the shops, she is followed by children, charming, wide-grinning piccaninnies.”
And we can’t forget:-
“I shan’t be satisfied till I have seen them all settled overseas. In this country in 15 or 20 years’ time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man.”
Vote bn p!
“I shan’t be satisfied until I have seen them all settled overseas”. The speaker is referring to his children and not to immigrants. Nonetheless, the black man now does hold the whip hand over the white man in the UK and especially in the US
Heath sacked him for that speech mainly because Ted(Heath) didn’t like Enoch and vice versa but then again not many people did like Ted.
It’s also interesting comment on the hypocrisy of Labour- the Labour Party that has done the most to destroy the social cohesion and the integration of immigrants into this country for so long and who said over the past years that anyone who voiced concerns regarding the volumns and pace of such immigration was a racist and that if you go back to the time Powell and compare that speech with some of some Labour Minister’s utterances to-day on immigration they too would have been classed as racist by the Labour Party on those on the left
It’s only now that the Labour working class vote in such places as Stoke on Trent and Barnsley can no longer be relied on anyomore and the rise of the far right in those constituencies that Labour has decided to adopt the phraseology of the right regarding immigration
Heath hated Thatcher too but she was too clever for him
He was the man who lied to us about Eirope and later said we wouldn’t know what had hit us until it was too late. Mix up populations to avoid war? A dangerous and niaive theory.
Heath was a terrible, grammar school educated, snob. (Oh and a bender, too!)
Thanks Nell.
That is the first time I have read Enoch’s full speech, and given that it was made in 1968 it as an astounding prediction of all that has come to pass.
What Powell’s speech tells us is how we got where we are.
We need to be able to discuss openly what can be done to address the ills that have resulted from ignoring Powell’s warning. The first step to be made is the declaration that England’s culture and heritage should not be made subservient to any other, and those who wish to defend it should be allowed to speak openly and be heard.
On the subject of Dan Hannan;
The views of Powell were ignored and suppressed instead of being intelligently incorporated into the body politic, and as a result we now have home grown Muslim terrorists indiscriminately attacking our own country.
There is a price to be paid for stifling debate and free speech, and we are paying it.
I couldn’t have put it better myself.
Having read this for the first time, it strikes me how he has been misrepresented ( deliberately, no doubt) by the media, indeed, he predicts their reaction in his speech!
He also predicts fairly accurately the situation in this country today, where any criticism, or even discussion, of immigrants and immigration, however factual or valid, is deemed to be ‘racist’.
You mean we NEEDED control and we NEEDED policies. It’s all too late…..
By the way, good blog. The sillies haven’t ruined it for once.
How long till Mcshane is in the gaurdian writiing more shit ?
As soon as the cheque hits the mat.
Enoch made a mistake. What he should have done was drive a car off a bridge into a river (drunk), leave the scene of the accident, leave a women to drown, go to hotel and call the police the next morning. After speaking to his lawyers. Thats a mans man. Thats the sort of chap that floats the boat of the PM and the BBC.
Silly Enoch.He just made a controversial speech and served his country in wartime, how much more he could have been hero-worshipped had he just behaved like a moral sewer most of his life.
Excellent point, MJ. We live in a world turned upside down.
Nicely Put MJ
but hannah must know when he says stuff like that that labour will get up him about it and use it to attack cameron – so the more important question is why does he keep doing it? does he want to bring cameron down? does he just like being famous and want to provoke a reaction? selling books?
http://www.fsnreportersblog.com
So he should shut up and say what the goverment wants to hear ? and i thought we had free speech
You may think that, facts seem to show otherwise.
Let Mandelson attack Hannon. If it brings about the sort of debate I have seen on here and pushes up front the debate on immigration and what Powell really said compared to what has really happened since then we should welcome it.
Enoch Powell was great statesman & by far the best PM of that generation that we never had
Unlike that traitor Heath.
I have my mini JCB ready to dig that treasonous Hoon up & dump whats left of him in the Port of Calais – when the time is right.
so why does hannan say he was wrong on immigration ?
Immigration dilutes dissent in both the workplace (no single mindset or language or point of view on the rates of pay and condituions) and in the naton as a whole – a homogeneous ethnic nation, as England was, does not consider its governments fights in the contexts of various ethnic and religious constraints, it merely dons the tin hat and accepts that the men and women fighting with them have a common enemy. We are now in position, thanks to multiculturalism, where this is no longer possible. Do you trust al the muslims who now work for the mod entirely? Would we have employed Germans in the secret services in the second world war just because they said they weren’t nazis? Of course not – but we’d do it now.
I could scarcely have put it better myself sir.
Cannot be done, I fear. The hoon was cremated!
Great idea, Fred. You did his carcass up and I’ll piss on it (after having drunk 10 pints of strong but cheap cider).
“Genuinely eager to champion the unemployed and other underdogs… dynamic and handsome, popular… gifted and a natural leader”
‘The Guardian’
STEPHENSON
“Brilliant man in the Commons… compassionate and humane… a man of genuine courage and inspiring leadership”
‘- The Daily Telegraph’
SMITH
“Thought to have been the most handsome and gifted British political leader of the twentieth century …brilliant debater, gifted, lucid and compassionate…”
Not The Nine O Clock News on Oswald Moseley.
If Mandleson and Brown had managed to cross the world to join up to fight Hitler then their rabid criticism of Powell could be seen in a different light.
Oswald Moseley was, of course, a LABOUR MP before he founded the British Union of Fascists. He thought that Labour weren’t left-wing enough.
Isn’t it time we “rehabilitated” Tory Tigress Nadine Dorries ?
very clever girl that Nadine
Nadine, is that you?
Ask her where she really lives while you’re at it.
moonbase alpha
Has she stopped thieving and then trying to make everyone feel sorry for her when she’s caught thieving yet?
Why ruin a good story for the sake of facts?
Lord of a strange name Mandelson
To be fair, does anyone really give a flying feck what bliar thinks??
Thought not. Trouble is, what ‘they’ say creates our ‘reality’…..
It’s the Big Lie, used by every lefty since 1925:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie
For once Bliar actually said something true.
He was indeed just that.
Didnt Gordon once say ( on coming to number 11 in 1997) something like “what do you want me to do send them a thankyou letter ” cant remeber excat words can anyone help ?
Why doesn’t Dan just join the UK Libertarian party ?
He does seem to spend much of his time praising their policies to US Libertarians.
Is it so unreasonable to nail your colours to the correct masthead ?
Apparently the UK Libertarians seem to be a sect within the broad church of the Conservatives. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. I think it will soon be pick-n-mix politics: Tories – UKIP – UKLibns.
So lets remember Labour’s response to Enoch Powell’s “Rivers of Blood” speech.
The then Labour government rushed the Commonwealth Immigrants Bill 1968 through Parliament in a day and a night. It was a blatantly racist law that restricted the right of Kenyan Asians to enter into Britain.
More detail here:
http://www.newstatesman.com/199901220021
Labour’s want to talk about anything but Gordon Brown’s recession.
The link is worth reading.
Powell made his speech AFTER the Bill was passed and Labour seized on it as a wonderful distraction from their own actions. They haven’t changed.
What would have happened had the Bill not been passed, and wasn’t Callaghan’s reasoning totally correct.?
As in Government, as in war; sometimes the correct decision and the easy and popular decision are diametrical opposites. A Government’s first loyalty and duty is to its own citizens. Look for example to the decision made by the Icelandic Government that they will only meet their debt obligations if they have the means to do so, and that if they are mired in stagnation their debts will not be paid.
We may well end up having to follow their example.
Correction to my early post the “Rivers of Blood” Speech was after the event however Enoch Powell started to raise the issue in 1967.
That mandeoman is total scum. He escaped an attack by custard, let’s keep our fingers crossed that he will, yet, slip up on a banana skin, get his come uppance, get his just desserts, reap a whirl wind, etc etc.
That’s a trifle unfair.
A trifle too far, Mandy does not concern himself with
He’ll certainly get paid well down the line by BP or any of the other 1000 Companies he’s been lobbying for so blatantly and corruptly.
Look at poor Prince Edward.
Will he get paid a penny for his tireless lobbying on behalf of BP to Gadaffi ?
I think not!
Probably becaue it was Prince Andrew you idiot!
A giant walnut whip up the fundament, perhaps ?
I wish he would bore off – stupid unelected Lord of the Ring.
I had the honour to shake hands with Enoch at South Kensington YC meeting in 1967, I think. A great man – youngest Brigadier in the Army, Professor of Classics, honest, principled, patriotic, realistic – how unlike the politicians we have to suffer today!
We haven’t assimilated them with ease. Sadly, Enoch’s prediction will probably come true, even if you don’t think the London bombings have already qualified as a ‘river of blood’. Our political master are blind to where they have brought us all.
Well said
The rivers of blood flow in Afghanistan daily and Iraq weekly. So called British citizens feather their nests here and return to fight for their religion against the adopted country that so graciously nurtures them. Military inteligence can identify the ‘British’ jihad warriors in said countries as they don’t generally speak pashtun (Afghanistan) and in moments of exremis their Yorkshire or Midland accents leak out. It is conservatively estimated that around 4000 ‘British’ citizens are fighting against the British Army in both conflicts.
Think on this when you witness the laments at Wootten Basset.
An army friend who has done several tours of Afganistan confirmed this to me. A number of times, having got the ‘taliban’ in a sticky position, out come the red UK passports before they get slotted. They’d love to shoot the fuckers but have to make do with giving them a very good kicking.
The government conveniently forget to make an issue of the number ‘Britsh’ citizens fighting our chaps, no doubt because of race relations at home.
This staggers me. It’s a revelation. Why on earth aren’t they shot like traitorous dogs? Who tells our troops to go easy?
Then its high time someone began to collect photographic evidence of this treasonable behaviour .. and when the time is right prosecute the vermin to the full extent of the Law ..
They should shoot the bastards anyway. Enemy combatants not in a uniform. Spys.
The lickspittle fucknuts at the BBC have severely edited their earlier article on this – removing two of the thrice repeated labour attack phrase “attacks the NHS and praises Enoch Powell”. They’ve added some context, and finally got around to including Hannan himself.
Wonderful what a few strongly worded complaints can do eh? Keep at the bastards folks – they think they can lie and propagandise with impunity; s’up to people like us to tell them otherwise.
Strictly is coming back and we are all a flutter says BBC’s head of current affairs.
And we are already getting those 5 second “promos” between programmes and
we’ve over a week to go – aaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Prolefeed keeps the masses compliant. Give them soap actors in stretchy satin and sequins and they will be happy. Make them happy and they will accept the staus quo. Get them to accept the staus quo and you can hoover up most of their cash and impose whatever you like on tem.
Bread & circuses……nothing changes, does it?
Sir Dickwad, Status Quo. Now you’re talking.
Strikes a chord, some say three.
The “worth” of Mandelson’s comments is somewhat reduced upon consideration of his following exploits: http://eotp.wordpress.com/?s=Mandelson
Yet another opportunistic Neo-Lay-bore charlatan.
More can be found in the Citizens’ Handbook: http://lastingthought.wordpress.com/titles/citizenshandbook/
Everyone should calm down a little and face up to the fact that this is the start of 9 months of Labour lies, spin, building and knocking over strawmen and generally getting on every thinking man’s tits aided and abetted by good old Auntie.
We should not let our anger peak too soon or many Tory voters will either be dead or in hospital come the election.
Not the final solution, they wouldn’t, would they?
“Super! lots of lovely column inches today Dan m’boy. Yes, Dave hasn’t said a peep to the Media he’s hopping mad but knows he can’t touch you. Course he’s jealous! he wishes he could get the press you do.. Mmm hmm, Got you booked in for a few FOX spots, No, no I shouldn’t think they know who Enoch is but make a few NeoCon noises is and they’ll lap it up. Yeah, he’s been phoning all day, let’s keep Mr Farage wriggling on the hook till a bit nearer the Election. Yup a few months and he can be eased out of the way no probs. I told you I’d make you famous Dan m’boy, onwards and upwards!”
Good ho! When’s the next cheque due? Got to be careful with UBS now, wink, wink; don’t want IRS getting hold of my bank account number. I have been meaning to ask you for a while for some advice on the slap – do you think it is a bit dark for television? A lighter foundation, perhaps, so the light reflects straight into the camera, creating a sort of halo effect? And the eye shadow – you don’t think I have been over-doing it do you? Does it show that I have been at the mascara? Btw – have a new book almost ready – ‘The Dan Plan’ – let’s cut that creepy Carswell out of the royalties now. Basic plan is to scrap the NHS, blow up the channel tunnel, make me PM, and triple the expenses allowances for Cabinet members (including the PM). Wadya think? Popular eh?
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I was amazed at the strength of feeling and unity amongst working class people across the country against immigration at the time of the ‘River of Blood’ speech.
Those peoples opinions were ignored then and still now.
I cannot see what benefit there is to indiginous skilled/unskilled working class people to ship millions more skilled/unskilled working class people into the country.
The benefit to the chattering classes is clear.’We cant have a cockney plumber earning more than our Tarquin with his wonky university degree can we’
Of course mass immigration is good for the ruling class, because it makes services cheaper, especially nannies, domestic staff, restaurants, hotels and craftspeople. It is bad for the working class as it increases competition for jobs and homes. Consequently we have had mass immigration; the burden falls on the working class, who are then lectured and demonised by those who benefit from it.
If the ruling class liked darts or football they would be subsidised. If the working class liked opera, it would be taxed.
It works for me. I’m one of the ruling class!
For the benefit of all of you young whippersnappers who are not old enough to be able to remember what Enoch Powell said, these are the key sentences that gave rise to all of the approbation -
“As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see ‘the river Tiber foaming with much blood.”
We don’t know how far ahead he was looking, but one thing is certain; it ill behooves us lesser mortals to scorn such an intellect as was Powell’s.
don’t be silly, top boy is far more intelligent than powell.
powell was an acid head talking all that revelations gibberish type guff.
either acid or mushrooms, the idiot was of his head. if he wasn’t on acid it means he must have been suffering from paranoia schizophrenia.
and he was also being anti British by claiming such a thing could ever happen in this green and pleasant land.
this country is the least racist country in the world. admittedly our institutions are racist but not the good people of this nation, we are the most tolerant people in the world.
that is one of the reasons England is the best country on God’s Earth.
we can rebuild the empire not by military force but by having so many people of so many different nations living here we have unofficial ambassadors all around the world.
now if we stop occupying other peoples countries we will be able to move forward and make real progress.
our foreign policy is currently a racist one. we, the white men, go around the world telling others how to live and if they do not agree we kill them.
we are no better than whitesupremacists really. it is our racist foreign policy that gives succour to idiots like the bn p.
here ends the lesson for today. few readers will be intelligent enough to assimilate any more of thick as thieves genius in one sitting.
You fucking moron,that is the most un thought stream of liberal conciousness claptrap I’ve ever had the misfortune to cast my eyes over.
well said chalkie.
Did you write that for your GCSE English exam? It’s worth an A*, probably.
it warms my heart to get up the noses of bn p trolls like you three cripples.
I must be doing something right, eh dullards.
I learn’t all I know from the brilliant mind of Tony Bliar.
Back to the counter, tat. Those Happy Meals won’t serve themselves.
….”we can rebuild the empire not by military force but by having so many people of so many different nations living here we have unofficial ambassadors all around the world.”
You mean a sort of muliticultural theme park disney world, full of fat fuckers? So instead of the middle classes going half way round the world to soak up the atmosphere of other johnny foreigners mono cultures, they can fuck off to Huddersfield to watch MacDonald munching multi-culti Bangladeshis? Yeah, fucking genius
Bring it on, knobhead.
sorry tat, I’m unfortunately just not intelligent enough to assimilate your long diatribe above.
er, ever heard of globalisation?
what country will be most the successful in a globalised world?
luckily we have the English language, which as well as being the finest language in usage is also the business language of the world.
what else do we need to succeed? well, we need to have good relations with other countries which means our flawed foreign policy positions will have to be changed. let’s not forget: the americans owe us. everything.
but until foreign policy mistakes are corrected we will make no progress domestically because domestic and foreign policy are obviously intertwined; there are British citizens who originated or whose parents or grandparents originated from areas which are currently under attack.
that fact combined with media coverage as well as the internet have all contributed to the radicalisation of both British citizens and non British residents. the CIA predicted attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan would cause such a blowback and would act as a recruiting sergeant for the enemy.
new labour were fully aware of that fact but they went ahead anyway.
and if that were not bad enough the new labour war and occupation cabinet were not in possession of a post-war plan.
can you believe that? I fucking don’t.
clear-cut case of criminal negligence innit.
I want blair to be asked why neither he nor anyone in the foreign office officially presented to the american administration the British post-war plan which was to take out the top 150 people and keep the institutions in place.
surely, in order to plan the invasion, tony blair must have present this plan and discussed the British post-war plan with the americans.
there is no record of that conversation ever happening.
why was that document not delivered to the bush administration through official channels and if it was delivered unofficially just who exactly viewed the document?
if we know the answers to those questions then we will know who is guilty and therefore who should be hanged like that other war criminal, saddam hussein.
note to carpenter: please take measurements and begin to order the wood for the gallows.
could you also order 250 feet of good strong English rope for me?
God tat, you’re not going to do away with yourself are you? Things aren’t that desperate are they? Would you really need as much as 250yds of good English rope? Only joking………I get your point.
‘ Those whom the Gods wish to destroy, first they drive mad.’
dollys found a way to make money
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2009/aug/27/kate-garraway-derek-draper-baby
PMSL, is that all he’s good for now, holding wifey’s hand and being “famous”?
Yes they lost the babys heartbeat during labour you know till Draper was told to stop fucking around with the stethascope pretending to be a doctor.
No reference to Dan Hannan or Mandelslime’s smearing of him on WATO. Has the news agenda moved so quickly, or is the Beeb taking some notice of public opinion?
On the other hand, they made no mention of the NHS nursing lack-of-quality scandal, either.
No mention will be made of Powell. It is a shibolleth the bbc will utter onlly under pain of removal of the license fee. Any mention might lead people to wonder and read rivers of blood speech and see that it is as credible now a sit was then, and susequently question fundamentally the whole value system of the beeb and its common purpose masters.
Damnation! I promised Dan this would be all over the Papers and News.
I guess I’ll have to get him back on FOX to feed them something contraversial again. Hmm.. Privatising evey school in the UK might be right up Dans alley.
Don’t worry – Sky is covering it in the UK (just using the Fox stuff since it’s free to the Murdoch corporates).
Anyhow, the Gorgon is back today put his foot in it big-time – he’s gonna skank the poor people next year – give him enogh rope m’boy and I’ll be PM by Christmas!
The Lefties are like headless chickens these days. What seems a good idea at 8am is something to be forgotten by teatime – everything they touch is a disaster, every scheme they try backfires. Their only hope is censorship and propaganda – the Beeb pumping out the Nulab spin to try to set the agenda, all the time deleting and wiping anything within reach that doesn’t fit the narrative.
Amusingly, that twat Sunny Hundal is playing the same game on his two-bob sites – mock him or his pitiful attempts to wring some kind of controversy from this story and blam, away go your comments. So *very* liberal they are over there.
This is the great thing about Labour, the Guardian, the Beeb, all that crowd – their self belief is so great, and grand, that they dig themselves into great hypocritical holes constantly. They’re never looking for bear traps ‘cus they can’t imagine that people like them – y’know, good people – could ever slip up.
I think we’ll all miss them when they’re gone.
Actually… No, I don’t think we will.
Good point. It is because they believe they are doing good that the possibility they are not will never cross their minds.
People at the BBC, the Guardian, the Fabian Society, have absolutely no idea at all what a fucking shower of wankers they really are.
there ARE WMD in Iraq.
okay, it was a white lie, geddit?
Hey Colin – you related to Enoch???
I intend to vote B&Q
They wont throw the darkies out but you get a nice patio heater if they can rely on your vote.
If you don’t, you might be the one being thrown out pal.
And you can take the product back if it doesn’t work.
Good research there Guido, glad to see someone who stands up and exposes these hypocritical liars like Mandlescum for what they are.
A few quid extra on it’s way to the Sunlight COPS this afternoon, keep up the good work!
It was generally the case then, and probably still the case today, that those people most enthusiastic for mass immigration were those least affected by it.
For the great and good, the political and chattering classes of this God forsaken country, immigration is merely an abstraction. So long as all the adverse effects can be dumped on the working classes and kept out of sight and out of mind, then everything is just swell to these bastards.
But if the effects do start coming a bit too close for comfort, well they are rich and well connected enough to simply up-sticks and move to some lily-white enclave somewhere.
White flight is a concept foreign to the ‘journalists at the beeb, whole swathes of London, Birmingham, Yorkshire etc have surrendered to immigrants. Here one finds no English folk hardly and as the waves of immigration continue the places left for the English, Irish, Welsh and Scots can flee to will diminish – along with their hopes of employment. Never is it mentioned, not a word is spoken.
There is justice in the world.
The BBC is being forcefully moved to Salford.
Being beastly to poor Daniel again are they?
For heaven’s sake get a room you two.
How DARE YOU!
Hannannas is the most wonderful, intelligent, caring man on gods green earth and we all agree with everything he says, everything he says, everything he says, everything he says, everything he says, everything he says,everything he says, everything he says, everything he says,everything he says, everything he says, everything he says, everything he says++click++
Here you go folks – a spot of encouragment: complaint sent at just turned ten, story edited at just turned noon, and I just got this response from the BBC:
“Mr Fisher,
Thank you for your e-mail. Firstly, this is clearly a story worth reporting. The Conservatives have been accused recently of sending out mixed messages, and this appears to be another example of that. Also, expressing support for Enoch Powell is obviously a sensitive issue for the Conservatives; in 2007, a party candidate stepped down after writing comments apparently in support of Mr Powell’s views on immigration.
Your point about repetition is a fair one, and the amended version of the story has dealt with that.
As for Mr Hannan’s side, his comments were made in public, and we have reported the reaction to that. We have spoken to Mr Hannan and have included his response to the row, but essentially he had already had his say in some detail.
Best wishes,
BBC News website”
Weaselling – but they *did* edit the story, *did* ad context, *did* take out the thrice repeated “attacks the NHS and praises Enoch” line. Angry complaints work – getting on their case works – letting them know there are people fact checking their stories and publicising their errors works. If you see a BBC story that oversteps the mark, complain! If they get it wrong, tell them! If they’re parroting Labour attack phrases, let them know you’re aware of their game!
Piss them off, 24/7.
No champagne bottles in White City next time!
Frank,
Well done chap.
I used to do what you have done all the time, but the BBC website bias is / was relentless.
The are institutionally biased & cannot be reformed, which is why they have to go.
Best regards
I agree (mrs) they have to go.
well done frank, you’re a diamond
How did you route your complaint?
Do you have a link.?
Just banged in via the complaints section from their “contact us” page Moley.
It’s on my favourites…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms
Sometimes I mail speculatively via firstname.lastname@bbc.co.uk but you don’t always get to the right muppet.
I once even got a job interview at newsonline – long time ago – as a result of continually pointing out errors. It ended in a blazing stand-up row. That was funny…
I hate those fuckers. I think they know it.
Nice one Frank, but the leftism of Al Beeb is endemic, nothing but a real purge will stop it. If Cammo can grow some, if he can avoid the handwringing of his leftie media luvvies like Polly, if he really wants to make a difference, then rooting out the poisonous marxists should be on his “to do” list.
Let them work, but no suckling at the welfare teet.
well said chalkie.
why let the truth get in the way of a good story?
Keep up the good work Guido.
Come on Gordy – truth about Kelly, Helicopters, Lockerbie etc before mandy bleats again.
HELLO
Can I rely on your wallet?
I f you dont hand it over old chap I shall be forced to shank you.
Thank you for your time.
And to think that some say we blacks havent been assimilated into British life
Below link to dan hannan’s month old interview and his mention of the nhs and enoch powell.
mandy and the beeb are actually insinuating (lying to be frank) that dan hannan said things he didn’t say. Clearly they will be hoping that none of us listen to what he actually said.
It was a very reasoned and articulate interview with very reasonable comments about the nhs and enoch. I do hope dave has the sense to see what a valuable member of his party this young man really is.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/5290908/dan-hannan-and-enoch-powell-make-your-own-mind-up.thtml
Another good find nell – there are lots of old Hannan interviews coming out of the woodwork today. His views have changed not one bit over several years, he has been absolutely consistent in what he believes – what a refreshing change for a politician in today’s media and spin-obsessed age. He has said that he disagrees with Powell’s view on immigration but agrees with his views on small government.
Even the Beeb have now seen this story for what it really is and dropped it from the headlines, in favour of a record population, GCSE results and the funeral of the 200th dead soldier.
Guido
With the BNP on the rise, an expanding underclass of british working class falling through the net you might find in that in a few years that racism will be more widely practiced.
Things are going to get worse and worse.
Evening Standard raising questions about Mandleson’s little trip to Corfu.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23737675-details/Mandelson+to+list+Corfu+hospitality+in+Lords+register/article.do
Isn’t odd that Mandleson has still to sort out the Telegraph for daring to ask how he raised the money to pay off the £750K mortgage. Hadn’t the great man claimed that it was all above board, and the repayment was the result of a legacy and share sales.
Then the (old) story about Hannan wanting to carve up the NHS suddenly appeared as breaking news of AL Beeb.
Two passionate defences of Hannan by Mr Guido in less than half an hour.
Is that some sort of record ?
If only Cameron could rely on such loyalty.
it’s 12 hours at least. the first blog was last night.
I see it less as a defence of Hannan and more as a campaign for honesty and integrity in reporting, and a blow for free speech.
It should strike a chord with the electorate whatever their political persuasion.
Like Enoch does. He certainly strikes a chord with the electorate these days.
Guido furiously defended Hannans “NHS a mistake” eccentricity too.
The BBC cannot understand why with A & O Level results on the rise that 72% of the public think education has got worse under Labour
The impartial BBC’s headline is the clue to the BBCs view on this poll
“Poll dismay over Labour education ”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8224551.stm
A question , Was the bbc like this under the cons last time ? or was it more balanced?
It was still left leaning in those days.
there’s no such thing as ‘Left’. You’re either a mouthpiece for the parasites or you’re fighting to expose them. The BBC was always with them.
It gets less anti-Tory when we have a Tory government and licence fee renewal is due.
It gets more anti-Tory when we have a Tory government and the licence fee is safe for another 10 years.
It gets viciously anti-Tory when we have a Labour government and the licence fee is safe for another 10 years.
It gets hysterically anti-Tory when we have both a Labour government and the licence fee due renewal next year.
The BBC is a State Broadcaster. It cleaves to power, always.
Thatcher despaired of the Beeb, knowing that it is a rat’s nest of pinko commies. She should have sorted them out.
The main theme running through all the comments above is that we are all aware that MandelBalls and their associated scum smear with lies and half truths.
But is is the cowardly hacks who fail to hold them to account for fear of losing their lobby privelege.
This blatant media manipulation is a staple of this disgracful administration.
POLITICAL HACKS – GET SOME BACKBONE
It’s never going to happen. Labour have a stranglehold on the media. Their tendrils spread far and wide…look how the Murdoch empire was seduced (strictly business, of course…)
Can any light be shed on Dan the man Hannan’s expenses?
If he is untainted ,not like FiveBellies,Ginger Minger,Elliot Morley,Horseface Buckett,Andrew Mackay and his old woman and legions of the other thieving
troughing bastards,then he can have my support as leader of the Conservatives,whether he wants it or not.
The European Parliament does not let us know the volume of the expense troughs in Brussels and Strasbourg (in hectolitres of course). It is all secret, but you can be sure they are not mucking about with the odd bathplug – this is Eurotroughing, tucking in on a continental scale. I seem to remember Hannan publishing his expenses along with a few other Tory MEPs but cannot track it down. He has been trying to reduce the amount of graft in the European Parliament but naturally he meets with little enthusiasm from most of his colleagues.
Thanks a lot Sir Billy.Maybe Nell who seems to have limitless time
to devote to research can shed some light.(TaNell)
The public need Educating, our message is just not getting across.
Powell was one of the most gifted politicians of the 20th century. A great speaker and one of the main intellects behind dragging the country out of the mess Labour inflicted in the 1970s. I join Hannan in my admiration of him.
Had he not made the speech in Birmingham on immigration there is a good chance he would have become prime minister in 1979 instead of Mrs Thatcher.
And then made the same speech from the Despatch Box. Happy days…….
Mandel arse has Labour in the cockhold of his cheeks.
Aye, ye can only trus’ Old_Noo_Lie_Bores tae’ tull tha’ truth -
An nuthin’s ma fult ye un’stan’ !
shut the fuck up danny.
Caught a sneak thief rummaging round my office this morning – Labour supporter
Men over 50 with luxuriant wavy hair – labour supporter
Determined politicians who when they say black is white and
white is black often enough, appear to actually believe it themselves – labour supporters
Apropos of nothing, I’ll get my sou’wester.
Oy, HMS Rodney – you were sunk!
Know somebody who was christened Rodney cos his father served on the ship and it saw him safe home (WW2).
I can’t understand why Labour don’t let people vote by telly…’press the red button now if you want to vote Labour” etc. Better still, give them a premium-rate phone-in number. They would pick up millions of voters from among those 6 million Government Artists* watching daytime TV from their sofas.
*They draw the dole.
Vote in Afghanistan every 150 cast sponsors another coffin.
And they wonder why the birth rate is soaring. More to support the pensioners by paying taxes what a laugh. More likely to be supportwd by the pensioners.
Correct, sir.
When was the last time you took a provincial taxi or ate in a curry house? You think they are paying taxes to support our pensioners????
[...] only that, but Guido Fawkes has unearthed this comment by Tony Blair from 1998, in which he said of Powell after his death: “He was one of the great [...]
What does Brown/Balls/Mandelson think about that quote?
Incidentally the next sentence from the Hannan torygraph piece reads “To be sure, inward migration should be controlled: we want a rough sense of whom we are admitting and in what numbers; and (in large part because of Europe) we are losing that sense.” A quote from Friedman no doubt.
Food for thought maybe?
The liberal conceit has tuly betrayed our nation.
Immigration should be based on economical resourses and not the rasism of BNP or NF past ! Could it not be solved by making those wishing to work here from abroad, take out an insurence policy for health care etc for the first five years until they have contributed to the NHS/JSA system before being able to draw on it and thus reducing the possiblity of those who have contributed for many years, including previous immigrants who may miss out on those services. There is nothing discrimatory about that just fair and balanced approach!
What crap,how does he explain white flight in lancashire.Anyone in east lancs with money is moving out.
The irony of course is that it was the imperialism of people like Powell – who were only too happy to go round the world taking over other people’s countries and bossing them about that was in many ways the vehicle for mass immigration.
Mass immigration must be stopped. Economic immigration can be organised as guest working with only a small minority of people going on to claim citizenship.
We can see now the impact on our population – despite all the propaganda about the recent half million increase in one year having nothing to do with immigration (oh yeah – only BBC Social Affairs Editors believe that). We don’t want a country of 70,80, 100 million thanks v. much. We are already crowded enough in our housing, on our roads, on our trains. And we certainly don’t want to import any more people who actively hate our culture – our drinking, democracy, dogs, barely clad females, art, irreverence and free thinking. Yes, I am referring to the Mo Cult.
The League of Empire Loyalists were right.
It’s the white man’s destiny to rule the world.