Doh!
Heydon Prowse offered Guido the Alan Duncan video back in June. Doh!
Paul Goodman on ConservativeHome warns that the next election is the YouTube election. Expect to see more of this type of thing…
On balance it seems difficult to see how Alan Duncan can now credibly lead the Tory charge on expense reforms. He clearly doesn’t get it.












oh and your right guido duncun is the new hoon
We all know he’s an idiot, but he’s fun to have around and pretty harmless.
i have to abmit he is a good speaker in the house (not as good as hauge )
Hauge is a tour de force in the house. Duncan is good and I like him despite his size 25 foot.
PLease its “Hague”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He’s a good egg who robs the Taxpayer and tried to make out the outragous perks and bonuses he receieves were rations.
He’s a PIGGY. And a whining piggy at that.
But you just follow the Conservative Party like good little drones ickle Davy has told the world that he is miffed but he’s Alan DuncanSteen is not going.
He’s exactly where cnuts like Mandelson and all the other Labour PR twunts want him. He’s a colossal liability BUT he’s Davy’s fwiend.
Ah isn’t that sweeeeet.
I (sort of) agree. I suspect that his comments about being hard up etc, although unfortunate, were largely tongue in cheek and I’d rather not give any comfort to NuLab by being too po-faced about it. Given the choice I’d rather have 25 Duncans in Parliament rather than one Balls or Brown.
said the tory troll trevor brooking.
fuck off trev you corrupt c’unt.
Oy, Tat – I’d rather have Duncan in Parliament rather than Balls or Broon – he’s at least open about what he is, and lets people judge him despite their prejudices.
Balls and Broon, however, pretend to be ‘family men’, despite their obvious beards, and they’re useless ignorant economic illiterates to boot.
Duncan’s still an oily little shit, though.
Tat you’re not worth any response if that stream of moronism is all you can manage. Even speedo shorts is better than you
er trev, you just did respond you cretin!
DOH! what a fucking spastic you are.
paragnostic,
ah, another corrupt MP apologist.
ed balls is a sack of shit as is alan duncan as is gordon ‘war criminal’ brown. all three chancers are unfit to hold office.
and do not attempt to conflate against me paragnostic or I will bash your fucking brains out.
you dig?
good.
Trev you are a god (or at least you were in 1980). Tat you’re an illiterate hoon who needs to learn how to debate and discuss, or at least acquire some manners before you go on this blog. Otherwise fuck off and go and bore Labourlist to death
QED Steve.
Tat, I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries
Alan Duncan made the remark in good faith. It was stupid and insensitive, but unfortunately likely to have reflected his real feelings about expenses. This multi-millionaire and multi-homeowner is too much an idiot to be close to power and you can bet that when the time comes his dear friend David will cast him aside. Over the next few months the Leader will show him what rationing is all about….when it comes to availability, inner meetings, late night phone calls, a little gardening….
Talking of hoons, Fred, will you be fit to put some backbone into the hoons masquerading as a cricket team come The Oval?
Did he offer you THIS video, though?
http://keeprightonline.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/heydon-prowses-secret-garden/
You are a hoon of the first order – & one day soon a British Army squaddie will kick your treasonous, war criminal supporting ass, tosser.
Now f_ck off.
CEH. Do sit at the keyboard, waiting like one of those trapdoor spiders, to leap first onto a new thread? Christ, it is truly pitiful. Get a life. Or is this really it for you?
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Hmmmmm, this video has being doing the rounds since june and magically appears in the MSM at the same time as Mandy pays off 750k mortgage with profit from share dealing, whodathunkit.
good day to bury bad news ?
At this rate you’ll be talking landfill.
well we had the baby p thing yesterday , bank of england saying we are fucked
Funny how there’s never bad news on its own these days.
Everyone missed the IMF saying we can expect to have the government’s credit rating reduced last week too…
good day to bury bad new labour
Prowse is starting to look like the off balance sheet bit of the BBC.
Amazing how he never visits Prescott Towers or Lord Mandy’s place.
or Hoon’s bijou residences, or Frau Schmidt’s second home or any of Darling’s flipping homes.
How many Cabinet Ministers had tried to avoid/evade CGT or Council Taxes?
Once a cunning stunt always a cunning stunt.
let what go ? humour ? what lad are you getting at ?
er, freddie, I just split charles’ skull in two and his brains have spilled out all over the floor.
as a consequence of the brain damage I have done by cleaving his skull open charles can now only talk gibberish.
just noticed , the blog looks better with that hoon gone
innit.
Certainly does
No offence tat – as if I’d dare – but he talked gibberish before you cleaved his skull. Are you sure there were brains in there?
fuck.
excellent point dack.
thick as thieves stands corrected. it does not happen often so well done.
Bit like you then
ooh get her!
what a bitch!
Charles….you’re having a laugh right?
nope he belives it
Safer? Perhaps. But this is also because our freedoms have been eroded by a nanny-like state with poorly thought out legislation that is so far reaching as to be misused by not only the police, but councils as well.
I respectfully think you are full of the proverbial charles.
If Alan Duncan considers his lifestyle to be “on rations” he should try being a pensioner, like my 84 yr old Mum.. who suffers from Acute Angina, Chronic Arthritis, Diverticulitis and has Cataracts in both eyes .. but because she’s in receipt of my late Dad’s occupational pension the Govt says she “earns” £2.00 .. YES TWO POUNDS a month too much to qualify for a home help .. This despite her having worked & paid into the system from the age of 14 …
As for being treated like Sh1t .. if the cap fits Mr Duncan wear it … If you don’t like it then resign .. you won’t be missed ..
Let me get this right.
A Labour government is refusing to help your poorly mother and are pissed off at Duncan?
sir shitbrain,
all the political parties are as thick as thieves. they are one and the same and this corrupt conspiracy of maximising allowances has led to the budgets of more worthy members of society being cut. simple economics innit you fucking dullard.
and if alan duncan is not happy with his wages and terms of employment then he should fuck off and get another job, don’t you agree?
Dear thick as thieves
Yes, I am sure you are right, if all the MPs had claimed fair expenses Haddocks mum would have got her two quid or whatever.
Duncan is perfectly entitled to be unhappy with his wages and terms of employment as is anybody else; whether he fucks off and gets another job or not is of no interest to me at all.
No he isn’t, in the same way that I am not and Stephen Hester isn’t – he is paid a good salary for not a lot of work. He should fuck off if he doesn’t like it, and I am seriously hacked off that troughers like him, Darling, the Keens and countless others (mostly but by no means all Labour) seem to have got away with it. It is STILL a scandal and Parliament will not be cleaned up until we are shot of this entitlement culture.
Ah Charles, a Buddhist & Socialist – just like those hoons in Burma.
You offer succour to the Labour Party – war criminals & mass murderers.
And you are a Buddhist – the same religion as the Burmese Junta.
You really are confused, but thankfully harmless.
Keep taking the medication & working on your super duper cyber video games – reality is not your strong point.
Duncan – what did you all expect? They dont get it & never will – thats why all political party’s have to go.
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I love that boy Miliband’s face in this clip – he knows Hague is right and probably wishes he was on the other side of the House with the intelligent lot.
the best was the whole house laughing , maybe hauge should do stand up ?
I really don’t see what the fuss about – a few meaningless comments made in private but secretly recorded.
What is more interesting is Who told the BBC/Today programme to make somthing of it , months later ?
Who is trying to manipulate our opinions ?
What’s the first thing Mandy does on getting back from hols to disguise the worst unemployment figures since 1995?
Mandleson has had form with mortgage payments.
Perhaps his tax returns should be in the public domain as well.
Flamboyant shirt lifters have the habit of saying “outrageous” things for our amusement. Witty comments that are laughed at and immediately forgotten.
This is what this supposed “scandal” is.
Two months later it becomes ” A Big News Story”.
Why ? Who is driving it ?
CEH you really are FOOL. So the ridiculous levels of personal debt in this country had nothing to do with our current situation. The fact that Labour had a period of unprecendented growth inherited from the previous government then with incredible incompetence spent the lot leaving us to face a huge defecit as we cmbat the inevitable downturn. This problem may have been sparked in the US, but if we adnt been approaching the economic cycle believing the “end of boom and bust” we would have been in a much better position to weather this storm. Finally as it now appears to be confirmed ( oNly GB was dumb enough to spout these lies) we are not the best placed economy to battle the recession. France and Germany back to growth last quarter UK -0.8% growth. So may i suggest you put down the Goebbels book of facts and read a newspaper before spouting such rubbish
o/t was bush called “dubya” , if so why ?
W
that helps ,,,,,,, not
He’s called George W Bush to distinguish him from his father, presumably. H pronounced the W as “dubya”.
Good luck next week, Freddie.
Or even “He pronounced”.
Surely you were right first time – ‘H’, the father – George H.W. Bush
got it cheers ( penny dropped)
He was known as ‘Dubya’ in Texas as he appealed to the “rural Texas archetypes that were an amalgam of male-bonding rituals forged on the ranch, in the oil fields, and in the locker room.”
Unger, C. (2004) “House of Bush, House of Saud”, Gibson Square, p113
Freddie, Say “W” in texan.
Assuming this to be a serious question;
‘dubya’ southern US mispronunciation of ‘doubleyou’ (‘w’) his middle initial – stands for ‘Walker’. George Walker Bush.
HTN
cheers all thanks i got it
W
Freddie, mate, you’re going to need to be a bit quicker than that against Clarke, Siddle and Johnson’s fastest next week ;-)
See you at The Oval…
dont worry lad will be there even if only on one leg
he’s not much of a walker though, remember that incident when he was leaving a room and walked into a cupboard – in china if I remember???
i thought is was a locked door he tried to exit ?
Oh, I always thought the W in his name was for the word that rhymes with a financial worker.
The economy was strong in 1997 but it took Labour a full ten years to trash it. Sadly, it will take the Conservatives another ten years to make it strong again.
…. and all the while the (surviving) Liebour MP’s – ably assisted by the compliant BBC and Grauniad – will be howling “Tory cuts”;”Tory tax rises” etc. from opposition.
The fact that we are in this mess because of Liebour incompetence will just pass straight over their heads
Labour have given new rights….get lost, you can’t “give” rights, Governments can only take them away, and your government has been prolific at that.
I BEG to differ. Difference is LESS crime gets reported. Plods too busy arresting grannies and other’s for minor indiscretions.
Get abused/attacked/car vandalised, plods do nothing. Been the victim of more crime in the last 8 years than in the last 40 years. Thanks Labour.
I must say I was very pleased with the Police service & attention I got when my car was vandalised by “bored teenagers” in Salford recently.
Anyone else would have been given a parking ticket and told to clean up the mess or have their car removed by the police and impounded.
One rule for us…
steve, stop fucking lying you bastard tramp!
you do not have a car, you are a fucking tramp for fucks sake.
the only citations you get are for blocking the entrances to shops when you piss in them and sleep in them overnight and then fail to wake up early because you smoke too much crack and the police catch you and give you a clump round the ear.
so quit all this one rule for us bullshit, eh steve?
you are a tramp – face up to that fact and stop trying to fool the reader into thinking you are a professional person.
you are not fooling anyone hobo.
deal with your cocaine issues steve.
please.
oh, and take that laptop you have stolen to the nearest police station immediately.
do not take it round to your crackdealer’s house and exchange it for crack cocaine and superskunk you c’unt.
Mr Mod, there’s a troll here in need of a bash around the head to knock some sense into him!
said the tory troll.
thicks ok lad , just has some strong views , and a way of putting things , he aint a troll
I’d call him a stalker rather than a troll!
You are flattering yourself Steve. He just likes to take a whack at you because you don’t pay taxes.
That better, tat?
we all just want you to get clean steve, that’s all.
I look forward to hearing reports of how the Ginger Midget gets on at her next canvassing sortie in Salford.
guido you took down the link to hauges clip , was it to off topic ?
Yep.
sorry guido
Guido whipped your bails off just as you were getting stuck in. Bit harsh as I enjoyed the clip, but then he might be smartening up the office in advance of the conference season. De-Trolling as well, so to speak.
how come you’re still here then?
So Guido is human then! Never mind, you let one through the net but you have had a rather busy few months holding the troughers to account so the odd error is allowed :-)
As for Alan Duncan, he’s a stupid cυnt and Dave should have the guts to move him out of the way.
The Tories gained massively over Liebour in the opinion of the general public, for the way they handled the expenses revalations, but one or two of the troughers stayed in place – Duncan being one of them. He can’t be trusted to be the Tories’ voice for Commons reform when he is so much of an unrepentant trougher himself.
GET RID OF HIM DAVE…
And replace him with who?
Another “Heir to Blair” clone, yet another mealy mouthed pro EU back stabbing hoon?
There are no real Tories in the current Tory party – that is for sure – so it matters not who replaces Duncan.
“They still don’t get it !”
I also don’t think the MP’s have yet grasped how dangerous the next elections are going be for them.
If they canvas, they will have to take Police protection with them in the streets. As a ‘normal’ law abiding citizen, if I was approached by an MP at my house or in the street I would have absolutely no hesitation in conveying exactly what I thought of MP’s/Parliament.
In a period of seriously rising unemployment across the UK, there will be quite a few frustrated voters out there who will be more than happy to also take a swing at their local MP.
Roll on the General Election – payback time !
They might ‘get it’ then.
Of course the troughers in The Lords won’t have a problem. Mandy’s wealth and power is so very secure, the odious snake.
Maybe they could get a good deal on branded body armour for their canvassers & frontline propagandists?
Afterall they were useless at supplying 18 year old lads in Afghanistan with the same – & look at the cosequences.
Dont take the chance – all three main parties need to invest in protecting their doorstep troops from British insurgents who may not give them the doorstep welcome they were expecting.
When will Alan Duncan meet Bruno ?
lol – do you think Mr Baron Cohen could be persuaded to stand against him at the election?
He is actually very well educated and politically aware when he appears as himself, would probably do okay as an MP
Rutland is a safe Tory seat but Duncan is hugely unpopular there – it’s a great seat for an independant to target.
Apparently, Dinky Dunc is on holiday in Ibiza.
I don’t trust this Heydon chap. Anyone who doesn’t go outside and believes in secret gardens has to be a bit odd.
ok i am going sa something that will get some stick but
most tories run private buissnes , so there are used to sucsess , however they will give these up , if elected ( the cabnit) , so to a degree he is right he would only have his mp and minster pay , and no private intrest ( i think ) so he would lose a lot of his income , however the labour mps go into the commons to make money, while the tories ( or most of them )have already made money before coming to parliment
Technically correct freddie, but Parliament should be a vocation to these people rather than a way to get rich.
If Mr Duncan wishes to remain an MP then he needs to accept that he won’t be earning as much money as his previously occupation.
I got shot down in flames for saying this the other day, but the Liebour MPs are worse when they are troughing purely becuase of their party’s ideologies (as Mrs Blears discovered the other day) – they are preaching at their constituents whilst exempting themselves from the concequences of what they impose on the rest of us, the epitome of champagne socialism.
No one shot you down. Plenty of tat tat tat tat tat around the fuselage though!
cheers lad ,so if they are not init for money , why do so many do it ?
There aren’t many places left where you get rewarded regardless of whether your career is a success or ends in failure.
….but Parliament should be a vocation to these people rather than a way to get rich.” Yes, spot on. In AD’s case he’s loaded so presumably an MP’s pay is pretty small beer in comparison – so what’s he in it for? What motivates him to take a sh1t salary, and unlimited loathing from taxpayers who have simply had enough of being fleeced by those who should be setting a good example at the top of the public life food chain?
When all of this broke I was inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Initially I thought it was a silly, throw-away comment. I am also against hanging those who occasionally speak out of turn – this country is already suffering from the most stultifying political correctness as it is, and collectively this nation appears to have lost its sense of humour when these things happen.
And then I thought – these buggers just don’t get it, do they? In the wake of the expenses scandals there is still a tidal wave of public loathing for all 646 MPs who collectively conspired to rip us off in some considerable style. I’m not against the occasional gaffe, but in this case it clearly demonstrates that nothing has really changed – and this was from the Shadow Leader for pity’s sake, who has a serious part to play in reforming the system that has been so badly abused. So, I’m afraid DC is completely wrong on this – AD should be out of the shadow cabinet immediately, as retaining him will just cause further damage to both the Conservatives and to Parliament. I for one am not in any mood to listen to soothing noises from DC (Ch 4 just now) when it is quite clear that MPs, far from realising the gravity of what they’ve done, actually feel hard done by!!
The lessons clearly have not been learned, so I’m for continuing the fight to get the troughers out, and I don’t see why we should stop until the last of them has been sent packing. Only then will those that are left see the error of their ways.
We mustn’t stop there, however – we should then turn our fire of the local authorities and the multitude of quangos that are helping themselves to vast quantities of cash that we don’t have. I would like to think that MPs’ expenses was just the start.
after deciphering….. that is old news.
o/t does anyone else get sick and tired of leaflets through the door , no wonder the country is getting fat , had about 20 takeaway leaflets this week alone
you must live in a affluent area, we get nothing round here
It shows clearly that whilst the Postal Preference Service might have a slight effect on the sources of snailmail spam, it has no effect whatsoever on the largest distributor of same – the Post Office.
Every day,apart from take away leaflets,we get fake charity clothing collection flyers.
A nice scam business as you get your stock for free.
we get them every monday
Just heard Nadine Dorries on R2’s Vine show speaking up for Alan Duncan. When confronted with specific expense-abuses he retort was that she couldn’t comment on individual cases. Rather movingly she told of her stopping to help in her consitiuency when a kid fell off a bike, and how she felt nervous in the presence of her consitituents whilst waiting for the ambulance to arrive. She reckons MPs might be right not to trust the people in the light of recent events. “There needs to be a healing process” she said i.e. we need to humbly beg these bastards’ forgiveness.
I could imagine some novel ways in which Ms D might demonstrate her contrition. Sadly her constituency is several miles removed and my own representative untaxing on the imagination in that way at all.
sorry, should have made that clearer: she evidently believes that we the public need to win the political class’s trust back.
She sounded like a right old whingebag
What a lot of nonsense!
Duncan’s comments were publicized by the Evening Standard late on Tuesday. The rest of the media picked it up early yesterday. It’s old material used with aplomb by the pro-fascist tendencies of the MSM
anyway i was thinking , dont we all whinge about our pay ?
Not when we’re in the top 3% of earners, so 97% of the taxpayers that pay our wages earn less than we do…
I should point out that Alan Duncan’s comments to Prowse cam after his U-turn apology over what he said on Have I got news for you – see YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6xO4xEebNU
Look at the US political model and how few politicians represent the people.
We have too many politicians. Make bigger constituencies, with more staff to deal with constituency concerns and get rid of the rubbish.
……..and that Mr. Cameron, means Alan Duncan.
If lived in Rutland and Melton, I would want someone else to represent me.
Less politicians will lead to even less accountability.
They will be remote from their constituents, spend even more time in London or Brussels – and be even closer to the lobbyists and big business.
cameron has accepted duncans apology
Shame on him. The guy who is a hypocrite trougher should go. Cameron has made a huge mistake.
One trougher cannot really condemn another.
If this had all come out in June/July, when it should have done, perhaps he might have been under pressure to sack him but as Labour were saving it for a rainy day, it’s just politicking. So nothing new there then.
Alan Duncan must be defended. We cannot allow a media fuelled mobocracy, especially when it is a Lib Dem front, to dictate Shadow Cabinet Positions.
Alan was illegally taped. The BBC could not have used that subterfuge and broadcast it. Yet they can broadcast Prowse’s piece, filmed surreptiously in the House of Commons.
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That’s it Mr Cameron – by your inability / unwillingness to sack “shit” Duncan you’ve lost my vote and my goodwill. I will now do all I can to persuade friends, relatives and workmates not to vote Conservative either. You are clearly not really interested in reforming parliament. Could it be you actually don’t want to win the next election and have to shovel up the mess Broon will be leaving?
A sickened ex-lifelong Conservative voter.
I think the residents of Rutland will let Mr Duncan Trougher know exactly what they think of him at the election, need a good local independent or a well-known UKIPer to stand against him – any volunteers?
Boerwulf, welcome to UKIP then – that is where all the ex Tories I know end up. Myself included. Dave is just another socialist in a blue suit and tie.
[...] has just blogged that he was offered the video of Alan Duncan complaining that MPs live on rations and are treated [...]
Whilst I agree that his comment was pretty crass, the wider point he was making is I regret all too true. The way in which we are “professionalising” (ha ha) Parliament will indeed mean that anybody who has ever done anything else, or is capable of it, will decline to stand. We will rue the day that MPs are denied the opportunity to hold outside jobs, or any trace of individuality (still less, eccentricity).
I have no time for MP’s (and assorted hangers on) they have utterly proved themselves grubby and untrustworthy.
A total clear out is required.
You are either with them or agin them, they stick like shit to the preverbial blanket where public cash and handouts are concerned always at the front of the Q.
So no suprise that Cameron supports Duncan, pretty much as Osbourn supported Spelman.
Birds of a feather…………….
Spot on.
You can’t trust any of them to do the right thing.
Transparency, what a joke!
Alan Duncan is a cock. But he won’t ever get it. Which is his problem. Massive cock.
[...] to Guido Fawkes, Heydon Prowse offered Duncan the video back in Junewhen it was first recorded, the implication being that he turned it down. If so this only makes [...]
I rather do wish you wouldn’t reply to that numbwit CEH or his spambots. Guido has removed all of his posts so your replies make no sense.
Because of the reactions coming from Duncan’s constituents, Cameron will now be starting to suspect that Duncan’s re-election is by no means a certainty. No point having a ‘next-time-loser’ on the shadow front bench. One way or another Duncan is history. He fully deserves it.
Wavy Davy the hypocrite.
Oh but he’s a FRIEND I can’t possibly sack him. Let’s just stick with the plan of ditching some of the off-message “dead wood” Tory grandees and Eurosceptic troublemakers as the Public relations sacrifice.
While I pretend I’m not a massive hypocrite.
Remember Dave is NOT gay.
Depite those rumours about him and Alan he is definitely NOT gay.
Alan DuncanSteen is a complet twunt who has an amusing tendency to make a complete fool of himself whenever you put him in front of a camera. (Have I got News where the public were laughing AT him when they weren’t gasping at his crassness)
He’s SHADOW LEADER OF THE COMMONS not undersecretary for paperclips.
He has a big say and effect in how the piggies reform themselves, or as is now blatantly obvious don’t reform themselves with windowlickers like him in Parliament.