MPs Quietly Increase Unreceipted Expenses By 25%
The post Expensegate updated “Green Book” of rules for MPs for expense claiming written essentially by MPs, for the benefit of MPs is front-paged on the Telegraph this morning. Surprise, surprise they have upped the amount they can pocket in cash, tax free, without the need for receipts from £400 a month to £500 a month for “subsistence”. A benefit worth over £9,000-a-year if they paid tax on it. They of course don’t. Troughers like Tom Watson and Alan Duncan all took the full amount available in the past for “subsistence”“. Will they dare do it again? Guido will be watching…
Why are MPs paid subsistence for just doing their jobs, they would presumably still have to eat if they were not MPs? Families of four survive on less than the £125 a week the MPs claim they need to pig out on groceries. It is just a tax free bung to themselves.
Incidentally, they will spin that this was done before Expensegate and is all the fault of that idiot Speaker Martin. It was indeed initiated by Speaker Martin, but it was approved and finalised on the quiet by Speaker Bercow. So much for a new era…
*Dizzy updates in the comments that this was out earlier, just it got little coverage. The FT blog is keeping score. Worth bearing in mind that MPs still trouser more in tax free expenses alone than a person on minimum wage working a 40 hour week takes home:
This post has been re-written to reflect Dizzy’s fact checking. Back to the rosé for Guido…
Business as usual for these self-serving scum, then. Nothing ever changes; democracy isn’t delivering at any level.
What they don’t seem to realise – or don’t care about — is how much they are reviled by the public, who see them all as a bunch of money grabbing ****. These things do immense harm to democracy in this country. When the next election comes loads of people won’t bother to vote, because they believe politicians are all the same.
20,000+ still voted for them in Norwich.
They’ve been given the green light for more of the same.
Ever get the feeling you’ve been had?
Yep, every day when I see how much these ******** are getting paid, and the results their actions are having on me and most people in England. As our spendable income goes down, they find ways of lining their pockets with even more of our money. Tell you what, I’d do their job for £65k a year…. forget about second homes allowances etc.
Esther Rantzen has beaten you to it i’m afraid
I know you are an old man shorts, but try not to be so churlish, there’s a good fellow.
independent of political parties ofcourse! ’tis party politics that is destroying our democracy innit.
if you cannot keep up you will lag behind.
please shuffle faster.
where the hell did shorts go?
looks like Guido has pulled the trigger.
they need the shotgun up the arse medication they still dont get it lads
They’s probably put the cost of the cartridges on their expenses Freddie!
i dont mind paying for em lad
Good point Freddie – I’ll put in a few quid too……..
only need 650 odd and a mop
I’ll put in 20 quid, should be enough for the whole Cabinet…
nah, keep your twenty quid in your pocket steve.
you tramps need a little bit of folding green to buy cider with.
and cheap vodka.
That is the kind of thing that would have many of them forming a queue with their pants over their arm. Lord Fondlebouy leading the way.
First please
Cut out the crap.
You don’t have to cut it out if you have plenty of fibre
How did you work that out?
“Do you know a jazz number called “Worksong”?”
Never heard of it, as far as I know. Might have heard it without knowing what it was.
Ah, Take Five. Got the dots for that, where you have to play the whole thing including improvisations. Eb minor – 7 flats. Written by the late Paul Desmond, Brubecks sax player.
Just been modded and can’t work out why – got the dots for it – Eb miner (deliberate mis-spelling) – 7 flats.
try original post again with mis-spelling:
Ah, Take Five. Got the dots for that, where you have to play the whole thing including improvisations. Eb miner – 7 flats. Written by the late Paul Desmond, Brubecks sax player.
This bunch of self serving, corrupt and undistinguished parliamentarians are the worst in living memory.
Yet these crooks still think they can tell us all how to live, what to eat, who to die for and how much taxes we should pay.
They have no moral compass, yet sit in judgement over the rest of us.
Nobody cares what they have to say anymore. We just loathe them all. They have managed in just 12 years to heap shame and infamy on our great parliamentary system.
No wonder these creeps are calling to speak to the Taliban, Hamas and Hezbollah. They need all the friends they can get.
Spot on Reaper.
Are you a leading political journalist???
How dares you to cwiticise me and my special fwiends, you damned Weaper you
They don’t have any friends – - even those three hate ‘em!
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
These bastards just can’t help themselves. Troughing venality is ingrained in their DNA – the present crop of MP’s must all be culled.
PS
Am I alone in thinking that the hirsute MP for Norwich, Chloe Smith, is an extra from Teen Wolf?
No doubt, she likes it doggy style.
Like most of The Labour Party?
It would be the only way that someone with a tiny willy like you would be able to persuade her there was anyone there at all….
Tory central office has arrived
it`s never gone away unfortunately
This was a covert payrise they gave themselves in january. They’re still all cnuts anyhow
Suggest you read Dizzy’s comment on how the Telegraph essentially made this story up.
Don’t forget that, at a 40% tax rate, this allowance is the equivalent of 15 grand pre-tax wages, or three-fifths of the UK’s median wage (currently just below 25 grand).
At least it’s not pensionable, but the current pension is already worth 30 grand a year already.
Glad to have left the country. If politicians don’t seriously listen to you, no point paying tax for all their privileges.
Well, surprise, surprise. It was obvious that after all this consultation, the MP’s weren’t going to lose out. They just wanted us all to think that they were. They make the rules and they look after their own first, don’t they.
Silly season specials.
“WACKO JACKO CHILLER THRILLER”
A woman has reported seeing the late Mr Jackson,50, working at a burger van
on the A30 near Basingstoke. Caroline Flint, 48, unemployed,stopped at the fast food wagon last Thursday.
“Imagine my amazement when I saw Elvis Presley, 96, making bacon butties.
Just behind him was someone the image of Michael sorting cans in a chill cabinet. At first I couldn’t be sure it was him, what with the hygienic face mask and the one latex Food Preparation Glove. But when when he accidentally pressed against a hot grill he let out a trademark ‘Ouw’ and grabbed his genitals, I knew it was him.
That, and the monkey making coffees at the back really gave the game away.”
Our star reporter,James McIntyre, visited the scene and questioned the Elvis look-a-like, who denied everything. When Super James pointed to the back and said “What about Bubbles making Lattes back there? ” The red jacketed Mr Jackson double replied..
“His name isn’t Bubbles and he isn’t a monkey. That’s our drinks maker, Tito.”
Satisfied, Ace sleuth James McIntyre left the scene.
So what else is new…. we all know they are a money grabbing bunch of *****, and it is one law for them and another for us. When I worked and could claim expenses – everything had to be receipted – we weren’t allowed to claim for alcohol (unless entertaining a customer) because if we did there was a tax liaibility! But of course, I wasn’t an MP
Don ‘t you mean Speaker Berpig?
I thought he was one of the champion troughers so no surprise that this went through on the nod.
Also remember his sickening acceptance speech “The vast majority of members in this House etc.”
Bankers and MP’s – united by a disdain for the general public.
Bastards
Are you certain this is new?
http://dizzythinks.net/2009/07/telegraph-generates-dodgy-expenses.html
So fucking what!
“It was previously agreed”
“All within the rules”
“Vast majority of members honest”
“Transparency”
It was initially agreed back in January, but was finalised by Bercow and the ctee just as Parliament broke up for their rediculously long recess – then not announced for a few days just to make sure there’s no-one around in Westminster.
651 lamp posts and a couple of miles of piano wire please!
Wrong, it was finalised and approved in the March Green Book, available to see online, check page 16
Interesting. Why do the DT make reference to the cttee being chaired by Bercow? Surely if it were all approved before March, the Chair would have been Gorbals Mick?
Well spotted Dizzy. Much as I loath the troughers I’m also fed up with the way the Torygraph has evolved over the last few years. Maybe there is an explanation for the Torygraph report that Bercow signed the thing off. If not this is very sloppy journalism and MPs have a right to feel agrieved.
What’s your take on this Guido?
Meanwhile, what’s the average payout for a soldier in Afghanistan who ends up with a broken back? a poxy 8 grand! It’s obvious where these parasites’ priorities lie: in their own pockets.
Breaking news folks. The M.O.D. is going to court to try and get back some of the compensation money paid out to two of the lads wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan.M.P.s and civil servants are the same type of self serving troughing scum ,hiding from the Islamonazis behind the troops. If Harridan Harmsmen wants to fight for wimmin’s rights let her go and fight on the front line rather than trying to steal from MEN whose boots she isn’t fit to lick!!!!
Spot on Small Bear. Today will see more bodies of British Service men being returned to Britain,whilst mp’s screw as much out of the public purse as they can.On the question ofcompensation our brave lads wil get nothing compared to what one of those so called “high powered” Bints who always end up going to court claiming sexism and harrasment, and getting paid millions for hurt feelings.
Welcome to nu Labours Britain, a country fit for half wits !
Fucking half wits would be the Einstiens of the Neu Labia party. The fuckers are not fit to sweep the streets. Yet still, they run the show (well as much as the EU lets them) why are we not burning the fucking parliament down?
some civil servants from the MoD need conscripting to act as snatch land-rover drivers. First in the convoy pls.
Er.. Guido,
Suggest you take a look at Dizzy Thinks?
http://dizzythinks.net/2009/07/telegraph-generates-dodgy-expenses.html
One of you is wrong?
Waste of time asking Guido to look at anything on this blog – he’s probably on his 4th holiday mode pastis by now and only reading short and capitalised emails in 36 point bold.
Judging by the ariel noise over my house this morning – several jets engaging in mock war play – it maybe the UK government are going to spring a surprise attack on the UK population to calm us down after this revelation!!
Just who do these bastards think they are??
Vote for them – I’d much rather burn them all on the Guido Fawkws Bonfire to end all Bonfires – coming to a road near you on November 5th!!!!
But Mr Brown has “cleaned up Parliament” – he said so at his July monthly press briefing and MPs expenses have been “sorted”. How can you doubt it ? Gordon has spoken so it must be true !!!!
This was a shocking and entirely out of character development by the MPs: I mean, who’d ‘a thunk it?!! Tsk tsk tsk.
One awaits the announcement of longer holidays and enhanced pension final salary provision for parliamentarians to be snuck out in the next two weeks. Probably on a Bank Holiday weekend Sunday, and then only in the Luxembourg and San Marino newspapers.
They’ve already filled several holes in their pension fund with taxpayers money over the years, but that hasn’t stopped them plundering our pension pots.
I hope they’ve got adequate police protection. People are getting really angry and they deserve what’s coming to them.
They appear to be already getting it.
Time for removal of another Squeaker, this time with ultra-violence?
Time for removal of another Squeaker, this time with ultra-violence?
“Ultra Violence” – How inadequate that term (originally coined by Anthony Burgess) seems today as a remedy for the troughing scum wrecking the country at our collective expense. High Treason should always merit Capital punishment. It used to be so before this “Nu Labour” cabal of thieves and rogues came to pass. One day it shall again, God willing. Sine die.
Alan Duncan is my local MP – here is one less vote for him. I’ll decide who to vote for when I see who might be best placed to beat him; not easy in Tory Leicestershire.
Ah. Alan Duncan. The man who said on national TV that MP’s weren’t paid nearly enough. There he sat in his expensive suit, bouffant hair and looking tanned.
Shotting them is too good for them. They need to suffer in their pockets as we have to.
Check his arse out, he’s been ‘rebushed’ and ‘reamed’ in phosphor bronze!!
Shotting them? I like the sound of that.
Oh, you have deaded me.
No, Eccles, it was me what said that!
‘There he sat in his expensive suit, bouffant hair and looking tanned.’
Last time I looked taking pride in one’s appearance wasn’t a crime, even if others find the result nauseating.
He may have a point in saying that MP’s are not paid enough, as I have a point saying that many of those we have are not worth the money they receive.
The solution is to pay suitable wages to attract competent, honest and industrious MP’s who are kept in trim by their electorate.
Jeremy996 has got it right.
It isn’t the fact that he presents himself well, it’s the fact that his suit obviously cost considerably more then a month’s wages for an ordinary working man, and he had the gaul to tell us they were underpaid. That’s what sicks in my craw.
Mine too. My vote goes the the next most likely candidate to win who promises to roll back the big brother state.
Sounds like a good place for an independent to stand against Duncan as it’s a very Tory area – Martin Bell? Guido?
…I thought that the Speaker was given a bye at General Elections?
I could be wrong (I usually am).
Only by convention. Another stitch up.
He’s given a bye by the other two main parties, but only by unwritten convention – certainly doesn’t stop an independent going against him though.
SNP and five others stood against Martin in 2005 for example.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/703.stm
Martin Bell was a Campbell Placeman who resurfaced recently and attempted to take the focus of the MP’s expenses scandle away from the Cabinet and onto Tory Duck Houses, re claims that were NEVER PAID OUT. His effort failed dismally as did his piss poor catchphrase “The Duckhouse Parliament” or something like that. We dont need him nor for that matter do we need Esther Bleedin Rantzen !
I must admit I can’t see an artificial BBC construct like Martin Bell challenging any sitting Nu Labour MP!
But the Great British Public absolutely love me. I get sooooo many letters from up and down the country telling me that I am a national treasure, everyone adores me and that I simply must stand for Parliament. Many say that I should be Prime Minister – so who knows!!! A televsion programme even wants to follow me right the way through to my election but That’s Life (geddit??).
Guido, whilst the allowance is clearly a joke, this allowance was aproved and in place in the Green Book published in March.
Additionally it was announced in January. So it is not new at all. It;s a continuation of the status quo at best but most certainly does not represent a doubling of an allowance on the quiet. It was a potential £9K in March, it’s still a potential £9K in July.
Dizzy what is making me so angry is that they are still proposing to claim expenses that are not justified by receipts.
You are I working for any employer anywhere in the country wold not be allowed to get away with that – so why should they?
It’s a question of transparency and honesty. Produce a receipt to show you have genuinely incurred an expense directly related to your paid duties and claim back the precise amount spent.
After the expenses scandal this should be the absolute minimum standard that they adhere to.
Quite right Nell. When I travelled overseas on business – for at least three months a year – I was only allowed to claim a maximum of £5 a day of unreceipted expenses. Everything else had to have receipts – no exceptions! And if I had ever been caught making false claims etc etc, it would have been instant dismissal, and prosecution. But for MP’s, if they say sorry, they can just pay back the money they effectively stole.
Nell you are absolutely right. MPs are contemptuous of the public and do not care. All Cameron does is refer to the `mistakes` which MPs made not the `fraud` they perpetrated!
NO RECEIPTS DIZZY NO RECEIPTS! YOU ARE TALKING SHIT PISS OFF WANKER.
hold on a minute….. politician apologist, talks out the back of his head…hmmm….I’ve got it! you are infact michael kneepads white and I claim my five pounds.
now bugger off dizzy you lard arsed down’s syndrome wanker.
thankyou.
Bless, learn to read a bit further before you start innanely doing teh interweb thing and using capitals.
“Should the allowance be there? No. ”
Am I disgusted by it? Well yes, it’s a piss take. Is it secret new money? No it ain’t.
P.S @ tat: I won’t be able to reply much more today as I have to go and lick some windows just before I pop off round to your mums house. She asked me to come round you see, well I think she said that but her mouth was full at the time. The good news is that you’re going to have a fat mongrel sibling, ain’t you lucky!
SCREEECH!
I here the sound of dizzy’s gears crunching into reverse!
fuck off dizzy, you were bleating on about how it had all been arranged in January blah blah blah.
fuck off wanker.
and go easy on the pies you fat fuck.
Reverse? WTF? Do you have the reading comprehnsion of a two year old along with insulting ability of slightly retarded ameoba? What we have here you cretinous globule of human sperm mixed with an evidently degenerate egg is the case that you decided to come rushing in screaming like a panty-wetting two year old without actually reading what I said.
I understand how such things can be difficult when the family brain cell is being let out to someone else for the day, but I must say it makes it all the more hilarious when it results in a parting shot about my wide girth (not the one that your mother cares about obviously) and a highly unoriginal comment about eating pies. I mean, you could have tried something clever like beef dripping and then referring to the issues I have with anal seepage.
NOw run along and learn to flame me properly or just shut up little one. Perhaps you should go and have a look at tubgirl, it might calm you down a bit.
I thought you said you were going off to lick some windows?
make your mind up retard.
you have just been outwitted by the great thick as thieves.
deal with it you fucking cripple.
many thanks.
I have done the licking and I suffer from premature ejaculation, so me and your mum did it twice and then I came back. I did have to hobble though what with me being a triple amputee star of midget porn. *kisses*
what an odd post.
fuck off weirdo.
you’re creepy.
@tat, weirdo moi? Bless, did I go too far for you x
titfer has just bin tatted! LOL
dizzy 4 tat 0.
Quelle surprise.
One thinks and the other’s thick.
I see both of your boyfriends have now turned up to defend you.
you’re such a slut dizzy.
you should see what I had to pay them
dizzy,
Was the payment declared?
Trust you to spoil the party, you anal fuck.
Guys, I’m not saying that (a) allowance isn;t a piss take, or (b) that it is ok to have unreceipted claims. I;m just saying that the Telegraph is making out this is somehow a new thing that has been secreted out in July. It ain’t. It was publicly available knowledge in March and was part of the “rules” already.
Should the allowance be there? No. Is the allowance new and have the MPs secretly given themselves even more money in the July Green Book than they alreayd had before Expensesgate? No.
Exactly, but, like you, I remain disgusted by their greed. I was in March and I am in July.
shut up you mug.
you have made a right arse of yourself defending these thieves, the best thing you could do now dizzy is shut the fuck up you prick.
idiot.
@tat – you dumbfuck, I;m not defending them, I;m merely pointing out that saying this is a new allowance is 100% bullshit, which it is. That doesn;’t detract from whether the allowance is excessive or not. It is perfectly possible for one to be both disgusted at greed and likewise acknowledge that the reporting of said greed is complete crap. The only one making an arse of themsleves is you.
@Unsworth – where did I say I was not disgusted at their greed? Or is this rather idiotic argument of “if you don’t say you;re against X then you must obviously support X?
shut up dizzy, you are only making things worse for yourself.
the other week you were bitching about gift shops FFS and this week you are defending these MP thieves claiming expenses without receipts.
you are an idiot. bugger off you moron.
thankyou.
oh, and are you down’s syndrome? it fucking looked like it in that gift shop video.
are you related to nick robinson?
Dizzy, there’s no point in trying to debate reasonably with TwAT – he is not capable of having any kind of conversation without resorting to abuse and namecalling, as well as all that purile disability bullshit that most of us leave behind when we leave school.
Those of us that have half a brain or more understand what you’re saying, but TwAT? Let’s just say that if he had a quarter of a brain he’d be dangerous. However, as it is he doesn’t, and is of seriously limited intelligence.
That’s why he can’t have a conversation without using language that’s normally the reserve of those chav scumbags you see getting nicked on those dodgy police camera TV shows.
and it is no good you posting as anonymous dizzy.
pathetic.
boo hoo thick as thieves is picking on me miss and he is making me cry!
if you can’t take it piss off.
simple, innit.
Diz – it is obvious what you were saying, there just hapen to be one or two imbecilic morons who sometimes comment here.
Maybe they are McBastard’s men trying to provide ammo for the likes of Draper et al…
Tat said “if you can’t take it piss off.”
Tat, sweetie, I can take it just as well as your mother, and believe me, she takes it good. Although I was concerned that she grazed her knee last time and gravy came out instead of blood. It helped me understand why you have such issues with us lardarses.
what the fuck is going on here?
you must be dizzy’s personal rimmer, right?
his boyfriend perhaps?
if you want to rim dizzy could you please get a room first.
thankyou.
*sigh* rimming is so passe.. felching is where the cool cats are these days.
you back for more dizzy?
it must be very stimulating for you to interact with a genius like me.
I can understand that.
but you are out of your league, so crawl back to your shit blog and leave the good readers of this place alone, free from your politician apologist bullshit.
well done.
Dizzy. You pissed or something? Did I or did I not say ‘like you’? What do you think that might mean? You’re getting a little overexcited here.
unsworth, don’t worry about it, dizzy’s totally lost it.
we should go easy on him really, he is down’s syndrome after all.
We can all take it TwAT, it’s just that you’re an intellectual lightweight who is utterly incapable of engaging in reasonable debate – all you ever do is throw insults at people.
It’s easy to throw abuse around from the safety of your computer screen isn’t it, you pathetic, impotent little keyboard warrior. I wonder if you’d have the balls to be quite so vocal if you were face to face with those who don’t share you limited views of the world? I wonder if you’d have the guts to come out with all of your bullshit and disability mockings face to face with disabled people’s able bodied relatives? No doubt you’ll come out with a load more expletive filled bravado – please do, as you’ll be proving my point admirably.
You’re a prize clown – the fact that you refuse to comment on this site without resorting to childish namecalling just proves what an ignorant little thickie you are. Genius you say TwAT? Don’t make me laugh – I’ve seen youghurts with more intellectual capacity than you!
In fact, you speak like the vast majority of braindead buffoons I see on my way to work who swear every other word whilst reading their copy of whichever dumbed down red top is their preference.
steve expat why are you posting anonymously?
oh yeah, it is because everyone now knows you are a lying crackhead tramp and if you posted under the name of steve expat(tramp) they wouldn’t read your lying filthy garbage.
innit.
Wasn’t me TwAT – not that I disagree with a word he said of course ;-)
Has anyone met tat. Is he short?
It looks like a moderator has just been round cleaning up after Mr ‘tight swimming trunks’. Please tell me that the TwAT is next in line? One down, one to go Guido!
*hugs* @ vertigo
One should never let logic stand in the way of a good riot mr vulcan.
this story should be reannounced every 4 weeks, well done the telegraph
Anon, it should be announced every week there’s no other MP troughing story, especially during the Recess.
IT’S OUR FUCKING MONEY!!!!
Vertigo – quite so. The violent crowd of illiterate confused simpletons outside of the paediatrician’s house near Southampton a few years ago after the Sarah Payne Roy Whiting paedophile nastiness is a case in point.
@Canary Wharf Rat : Bravo! “You both read like a couple of haggard dry spinsters arguing over the last hard on in town.” – that is how you do it Tat.
Errr….yes, that about summarises what I said, so thanks for that Tony.
Stimulating? No, I prefer wondering around alt.binaries for such things. You’re not out of my league Tat deary, you;re just a carbon copy of so many others online, the only reason I;m interacting with you is beause it’s fun to see you bite back with unoriginal insults. Instead of just calling someone a cripple or a retard try to think out of the box. Why not say that you;ve seen their mother in mastectomy porn or something. You need to take it to the next level and as a former Stile Project Whore I;m here to help you break the limitation of your closeted insult vocabulary. You know you can do it darling, I do too. Come on.. hit me baby, hit me good!
@Unsworth apols, not reading properly, I’m a retard remember.
Stop bickering the pair of you. You both read like a couple of haggard dry spinsters arguing over the last hard on in town.
TAT he agrees with you! all he was trying to do was spell out that this was passed month’s ago, they slipped one up the rear without anyone feeling or seeing it. dt low blows, low blows.
@Canary Wharf Rat : Bravo! “You both read like a couple of haggard dry spinsters arguing over the last hard on in town.” – that is how you do it Tat.
@ Dizzy. Yes, aren’t we all? After all, what the fuck are we doing here when we could so easily be enjoying ourselves – or each other….
The last hard on that occurred on this blog happened some years ago, so I don’t know what you’re all arguing about.
I was only having a bit of fun.
TaT’s a cnut, but funny
Spandex shirts is just a cnut
Dizzy – You are from Ilkley & I claim my fiver.
They just can’t stop the corruption, can they?
Do the MPs go on special crookery courses?
Most of them are lawyers so they know exactly what they can get away with.
Third rate lawyers at that.
maybe we should convine the court of public opinon
Copied from previous thread, really should go on this one. Sorry for duplication.
MPs continue to treat the public with complete contempt.
Even the “honest” MPs, (we are constantly assured the breed does exist) are party to the latest, non announced, expenses increase. I used to think that some of the inhabitants of Westminster were aware of public reaction to their grasping ways. By their actions, none of them care.
I hope that the positions of the current batch of politicians and the public are not reversed. When they are all aflame, I will take no joy in pissing on the non burning bits only. Not happy, but justified.
See what a real Labour supporter (not the paid/idiot trolls that are swamping this site) thinks about this government. This latest expenses scam is an example – it’s quite damning:
“There is just abolutely no morality, decency, honour or leadership. Just a pack of squabbling chancers and thieves.”
http://www.labourhome.org/forum/?p=6539
Most of us think that about MP’s in all parties. They wouldn’t know morality and decency if it slapped them in the face.
thats what you get from career mps
I despair they really don’t give a toss about the electorate
Funny how they can find time to get their expenses sorted out, but can’t seem to find the time to get to the HoC to discuss important White Papers.
Luckily they’ve now got months off from the H o C to get all their expenses in……… no doubt they are all making sure they have claimed for every last penny they can, and getting their excuses ready “it’s within the rules, I’ve done nothing wrong”.
I’ll bet their offices are all working overtime too.
Goodby Cohen – we will certainly not miss you.
A Cabal of Crooks & Tax Evaders.
Our Parliament is a disgrace.
Revolution – not election – is what is required.
Actually, it’s a wonder there isn’t more unrest in this country — have we become so passive and accepting of these tossers that we don’t seem to care what they do to us. In most other countries there would have been riots on the streets long before now, but here, we just shrug our shoulders, have a bit of a moan, and then try to get on with our lives.
You’re right, we’ve lost our backbone.
Although we make up for that with plenty of wank bone on here.
The British have lived in the “comfy zone” for the past 50 years. The national spirit has been diluted, and the people lulled into semi comatose apathy. No future for you said Mr Rotten. How right he was.
Ever since the French Revolution, their leaders have been shitting themselves at the first sign of insurrection.
No such luck here.
we deserve a government of thieves, we are pathetic
talk for yourself retard.
I was speaking to a colleague yesterday about the reports of massive increases in council tax if you have a conservatory, nice garden, nice view, etc.
My response. Just don’t pay it. If we don’t pay what the hell are these little Hitlers going to do? Jump up and down and wet their pants? Or put us all in prison?
The former, methinks. But it needs EVERYBODY on board. EVERYBODY.
And that’s the problem. The average Joe and Jane have as much backbone as your average Labour backbencher.
None. They’re slugs and snails.
The first jobsworth who comes round to inspect my gaff better have a police escort
Same with the BBC tax. You don’t need it if you don’t watch live TV. So, if you detune your telly and unplug the aerial, anything on the catch-up channels, and DVDs, etc, are free to watch.
There are rumoured to be c. 10 million people in a Facebook group objecting to the BBC tax.
If they all stopped paying, Beeb would lose 10 mill x £145 per year …. what’s that, 1.4 billion, or something? About half their annual income? Then I think you’ll find they’d have to listen.
People whinge on saying we don’t have any power – but we do. Legitimately and non-violently.
It’s a version of the 18th century window tax, only this time it’s what you see through your windows, rather than the windows themselves.
that’s why England is a shithole; it’s the quality, or lack of quality of the people in it . Three contrasts:
some junior minister in German govt. takes official car and chauffeur driver on holiday to Spain; car gets stolen; story leaks out and Country goes ape over abuse of taxpayer money, circa €10k, by brainless, self-obsessed bint. career finished, likely to resign/be sacked.
Czechs stand up to Europe. Vaclav Klaus, Czech President, has blocked passage of Lisbon Treaty.
Hungarians vote down proposed law by ‘Socialists’ criminalising the denial of holocaust. Socialists blame far-right ‘Nazis’ rather than Hungarians refusal to be cowed.
Harriett Harman said in the HoC, after the expenses scandal, that all expenses would now have to be justified with receipts. She knowingly lied.
And whilst they are making sure they are still quietly lining their own pockets, the MoD is scheming to reduce disability payments to soldiers injured in the line of duty.
Sick, decaying government, How do they sleep at night?
nell, they sleep like babies because they don’t give a toss.
Slowly very slowly I am loosing all faith in this parlimentary democracy. NewLiars have eroded this once respected institution to a self serving cabal. Just like everything else they have touched it has turned into a pile of shite.
The government is a Mafia. You had high expectations that could never be fulfilled.
The state mafia has to recede for the country to improve.
You express surprise that the Harmanhater LIED?
Where have you been for the past twenty-seven years?
Harridan Hrman is a lying troughing bitch and should be on the same row of lamposts as Bliar, Gordon the moron and Nick Griffin.
Completely off-topic, but this post disappeared from PB.com…!
Perchance – like Gordoom “Rusty” McUseless-Broon – I should give up. [TwAT: don't bother, you are a first-class hoon!]
I seem to remember a few warships being decommissioned not so long ago (within the last 12 years).
What a complete waste of money.
But it is worse than this- Yes the RAF is tied to fast jet ideology and the Army thinks the lessons of Northern Ireland will work in Helmand. I picked this up on another blog:
About 2 1/2 years ago I was asked to write an assessment of Jackal for a government department (not MOD – you would be surprised who else takes an interest in such things). It turned out that someone senior was visiting the manufacturer to encourage their efforts (sorry, I have to be a little vague). I assessed the vehicle as a death trap and said in my report that I would not be prepared to risk my own life in one. Of course I was interrogated as to why and gave the obvious answers about mines, IEDs, and machine gun fire. This was accepted a little grudgingly, but I was later told that my arguments were discounted and my judgement considered flawed because the manufacturers were able to make a convincing case as to why Jackal was the answer to everything. This was before the order for the second batch was placed and before the death toll started to rise. I think what happened was that they argued all the usual stuff about mobility being more important than protection, being able to travel cross country and avoid roads, etc. I do remember subsequent comments that I needed a better understanding about the design of such equipment.
As a replacement for the old Pink Panther Landrover you could argue that the Jackal has some merit, despite the unfortunate seating position of the driver. However, the driving force in acquisition came down to political reasons (‘we must be seen to be ordering new equipment’), price (‘it is so light it must be cheaper than a Mastiff’) and industrial factors (‘another world-beater’, ‘keeps employment going’, ’saves having to import foreign junk’). Above all it fitted in with what the Army wanted, which for some unfathomable reason was a replacement for the WMIK. The Army’s obsession with the Landrover (a vehicle and a concept that should have been pensioned off after 1991) is a constant in this entire episode – hence the MOD description of the Jackal as ‘a Landrover on steroids’. They do need to wake up to the fact that World War II and the Western Desert campaign is now over and the Jeep-Champ-Landrover genealogy is drawing to a close.
Now who was it that said that ‘The only thing more difficult than getting a new idea into the military mind is getting an old one out’?
Last I heard, the mid-atlantic ridge is where new crust was being formed from cooling magma. Oil and gas on the other land is formed from ancient living land/trees and whatever.
FYI.
http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Hydrocarbons_In_The_Deep_Earth_999.html
Not that I believe it.
Labour plan to win votes by bullying injured soldiers:
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1936&Itemid=28
Wouldn’t you be so mad if you just got shafted by the lovely Lumley and a bunch of gurkhas that you’d want to take it out on the nearest man down – just like the pathetic little coward, all flash talk and no action, that you really are?
My local MP Robert Goodwill troughed the full £4800 for food too. When asked how he justified this in the recess, he said he’ visited Westminster’ during the recess.
Right.
“….he said he’ visited Westminster’ during the recess.”
No doubt to make use of the subsidised bars.
Ian Paisley claimed £1200 for 2 months food!
If he visited Westminster during the recess, he would have had access to their restaurant (subsedised by the taxpayer, of course). So why would he need to spend more on food when he gets a three course meal with wine there, for about £7? Guido – please ask this when you get back.
Bloody parasites.
No wonder most of them are so fat.
whats so strange about that, dont we all visit our workplaces whilst on leave. Ive got some holidays coming up and I will be going into work everyday as well. NOT !!!!
I have not let up harrassing my M.P.over her troughing claims.
I will apply all of my energy to her being deselected and if that fails
I will use all my energy to see she does not get enough votes to be
elected.
I don’t care who is elected in my constituency as long as it is not the
encumbent.
Let them all know how we dissaprove of their behaviour and what
contempt thay are held in.
I agree with your sentiments entirely. However, even allowing for the fundamental stupidity of at least half the British public, I’ll bet my house, yours, and anybody else reading this that she won’t be relelected, not being who she is, and with a current majority of about 2,500. Look forward to seeing her Portillo moment, ghastly fuckwitted old rook.
How can we have a new era with Jonah still in situ Guido?
I expect a few months before he has to call the election, he will announce he will no longer be a candidate for the leadership of the Labour Party.
Jonah KNOWS his time is up but hangs on for as long as possible.
The quotation from it not so long ago that one could “walk away”(from the premiership) was just such an admission of his defeat.
He KNOWS nobody wants him-but the ego sustains him until the time he is forced to retire under his own terms. He will have decided when to leave-not the electorate, in much the same manner as Hermann Goering committed suicide a few hours before the hangman’s noose.
What an inglorious Bastard!!-personally I think he should be dragged out of office and tried by The People for crimes against the country.
Then shot at dawn by firing squad by relatives of those relatives of soldiers killed in Afghanistan that he has so criminally neglected.
NO blindfold.
Put him in the stocks first. Then we can all have a go.
Jethro – that’s a bit unfair on Goering – comparing him to McMental!!!
Bastards the lot of them.
SCROTES!
What we need to see is this corrupt and pathetic labour government anihilated and the growth of a substantial body of independent mp’s who will challenge the HoC’s entrenched troughing mentality.
Well you’re a touch optimistic there. What makes you think that there will be many (sufficiently) more independents, and what makes you think they will be more honourable than the present disgusting shower? My guess is that the ‘culture’ of Westminster will soon have them doing exactly the same as their predecessors. Greed is very infectious.
As long as they ARE independent and do not depend on the party whip system for patronage and advancement there may be a chance.
The existing group bolster each others’ confidence and actions with cries of ” its within the rules”.
The first things any independent candidate would have to put on their manifesto would be:
I will not use my position to gain advantage over the people who elected me.
I will vote according to my conscience.
The UK will have a referendum on Lisbon regardless of Irish or Czech Republic results.
If the referendum result is against Lisbon, another referendum on the future status of the UK.
Any unnecessary “terror” legislation introduced in the last 12 years will be repealed.
A recall method to deselect MPs mid term.
A treason commission to determine government actions taken since 1997 and prosecution as required.
Without a party to shield MPs from their actions, the electorate’s wishes might be more accurately reflected.
MPs would not be beholden to their party for their job and promotion.
They would rely on the electorate for their position.
Far too many ‘ifs’ in there for me. I always assume the worst of my fellow man – very occasionally I’m proved wrong.
I’ve just bought a container of Milk, Where can send the receipt and claim back the .70p ?
Same place as you and I send the receipt for 80p or so for our bath plug, sky, subsription, moat cleaning, etc etc etc. Now if only you were an MP…..
Sack Labour on voting day. The hoons.
No. Not enough. Get Labour out but all those troughers who have milked
the fuck out of the system too.
All of them whatever Rosettes they wear.
Fair enough.
….and good to see Kirkbride getting no change out of Dave
Come on Charles – let’s see you defend your beloved leader now.
Shhh. Enjoy the peace.
He can’t. He’s having a zen moment on the toilet at present.
Has he tried Harpic? It gives you a nice grip, and stings ones helmet very nicely.
He’s so overloaded, he’ll be sitting there for months
But surely “natural justice” demands they deserve these payments.
You may not have noticed but jobs are in short supply at the moment, so I think it’s only right that they should be able to hire their offspring at the taxpayers’ expense too.
I hope you all saw me on holiday
As you may expect I was wearing a blue suit, tie and polished shoes up a hill in the lake district.
I am a total fucking freak
Billy Connolly said:-
There’s no such thing as bad weather, just the wrong clothing.
Shall I tell Gordoom, or will you?
Yeah, why aren’t you wearing an England footy shirt, culottes, a baseball cap and sandals with the obligatory grey socks, you weird cυnt?
Could you really imagine gordon in shorts and a flowered shirt – sitting on a beach building sand castles with his children?
Or could you imagine him sitting around a seafront bar in some exotic location laughing and joking with friends.
He’d regard such things as beneath his dignity. Strange uptight deluded man. He must have had a very sad odd childhood.
nah, he’s just bent.
Scots wee-freers – you’ll always find them in the vanguard of the fun movement
Quite easy to imagine him in Cape Cod having a whale of a time with the guys in his rented cottage…
It’s because he’s always on the job of ruining the country.
….it’s the right thing to do……
There may be another side to this.
There was an article in one of the broadsheets this morning about another MP who has said that Mandleson should resign his peerage and stand for election again, so that he can lead the government into the next election.
Now this expenses story has broken, what better way for the labourites to get rid of Gordon. The public are seething and want his blood.
Just a thought.
Are they really that bonkers that they believe Mandelson can lead Labour to victory?
Really? That mad?
Mandy was grinning like a cheshire cat. How can a man, who has been sacked twice, even be considered as a runner for PM?……unless of course this is a red herring and there’s something being buried elsewhere.
Slippery lot, these MP’s.
They gave him a peerage despite his “previous”so anythings possible.
Mandelson is not held in high regard within the Labour Party and would not secure enough votes to become leader.In addition what incentive is there for himto resign his peerage and other honours to lead a moribund party? Very little I would suggest . No – much better to “loyally” prop up Brown to take the fall at the election,act as “Kingmaker” for his successor stake all on getting the Lisbon Treaty ratified and implemented and then champion his old chum “Tone” to become President of EU and thereby securing the more powerful role of “Chef du Cabinet” for himself whilst Brown is secured a nice teaching role at Harvard or a plum role at IMF to remove him from the political scene
“Nice role at Harvard”?? Christ, standards have dropped !
Guido.
Troughing is the most emotive subject you ever float.
Your advertisers will pay you a premium.Ratchett up the Expenses
issue and watch tle posts fly in.
Never drop the subject for more than 48 hours.
Where are all the Trolls,they can’t offer constructive comments cos the
whole substence of troughing is CRIMINAL?
Everything Newliars do or touch is criminal.
PRESS RELEASE URGENT
Charles E Hardwidge will run for Parliament
Charles E Hardwidge visited Luton to gauge public reaction
Stand Up Comedian Charles E Hardwidge has said he will stand for election as MP for Luton South at the next general election – expected in 2010.
Well if you can’t beat ‘em…..
Nah. Charles has got his eye on the Papacy.
Especially his ring.
PRESS RELEASE URGENT
Charles E Hardwidge was violently assaulted and repeatedly kicked in the head and testicles when he attempted to canvas the people of Luton.
As he was being given a right good kicking by a large group of people the police stood watching and laughing.
He was taken to Luton accident and emergency and when he arrived the nurses spat on him and told him to get lost.
And then he died.
oh well.
Is the £9000 maimum extra allowance, no receipts required, a taxable benefit in kind?
Example: Looks like accountants fees can be paid for after all on a tax decuctible basis. Monthly direct debit.
No excuse for my MP not to entertain me in the H of C now.
Is it taxable? Can pigs fly?
MPs voted themselves some tasty little tax exemptions in sections 291 to 295, Income Tax (Earnings and Pensions) Act 2003. The French aristocracy enjoyed similar tax privileges before the Revolution.
For us mugs the tax-free limit for unreceipted expenses is £5 per day, but only if necesarily staying away from home overnight. This increases to £10 if one is staying outside the UK.
Given that MPs work a maximum of about 120 days a year they get £6,000 where we would get £600 or, in the case of people based within commuting distance of Westminster, nothing.
It’s not just Labour MPs. It’s a cross-party thing.
They are slime.
It needs a small, determined group to start a non violent protest vigil outside parliament. With the oxygen of publicity, it could snowball. Come on all the professional activists, surely you can organise something?
Come on, these guys deserve every penny and 8 weeks summer holiday, after all there list of achievements are pretty formidable:
1) bankrupted the country
2) killed our currency
3) overseen trash culture and massive welfare dependency
4) 5m unemployed
5) tolerated culture of quite serious expenses fraud
6) voted themselves 25% pay rise with average family living on cira £24k per annum
7) trashed pensions
Reality is no private company would touch the vast majority of these talentless fools with a barge pole and they know it, so they let chumps like us foot the bill.
You forgot “allowed the country to be practically overrun by economic migrants”.
Well I don’t mind economic migrants, but the uneconomic migrants (and we’ve got loads) that really annoy me.
Tax land, not income. Give benefits to citizens equally not people in the country and these parasites will starve and find another host to leach from.
also you didn’t mention:
Involving UK in horrific wars
Allowing massive amounts of drug/drink/gang-related crime
Ruining the education system
Crippling the NHS
Blighting cities by destroying houses and putting up monstrosities
Ruining the postal service
apart from that what have the Romans ever done for us ?
Dave Cameron, as I understand it Alan Duncan was on this committee as Shadow Leader of the House – why did he agree with this and why has he not resigned after both you and he promised to clean up Parliament? If he didn’t agree why has he not said so publicly.
You haven’t won the election yet, you need to deal with this issue and quickly. Harperson and Berk-cow are a pair of self-interested Hoons, we know that. Your party pledged to sort this mess of expenses out, now you’re seen to condone making the whole thing less transparent.
One pissed off now-not-too-sure-about-being-a-Tory-voter
Make that two.
Not too sure! How much more evidence do you need?
The only division lobby in parliament is between the gravy train and the taxpayers trudging alongside the tracks.
Agreed. They’re all troughers, but don’t lose sight of how truly awful Liebore have been in power, and how invariably expensive the Lib Dems have been in local govt. In effect the Tories are probably the best of a bad bunch.
Best of a bad bunch?
Is that any way to elect a government?
Tory Central – for the floating voter, it often is the case of the best of a bad bunch.
I have to say that although my own party loyalty is solid, I’m not yet totally enthused by Dave and Co: maybe he’s keeping his powder dry for fear of having his ideas filched by Brown. However, at this election – as it was in 1979 – any thought of the incumbent party returning to power assumes truly nightmarish proportions.
So Esther Rantzen is going to run in Luton South. Apparently it will be ‘an adventure’.
As long as Labour don’t get in I’m not bothered you mad bat.
Yeah, lets have the adventure of giving her a twenty minute start, and then chasing with dogs and guns.
Good news – one independent MP coming up – and one with a 30 year history of looking out for the little people against goverment and corporations. More like her to stand please.
Sorry, I don’t like the look of her teeth……..oh, and she talks utter bollocks as well.
Did’nt stop Becket.
harry’s game, what have her teeth got to do with it, this is not Italy you know?
I’d like to see more people with a good reputation of genuine public service stand as MPs against the current lot of troughing Hoons.
There are some good and well-known invesigative journalists out there who would make more than worthy MPs, Springing immediately to mind are Ian Hislop, Nicky Campell and Benedict Brogan who get the expenses story for the DT.
Let’s see some of the troughers who think they are in safe seats have to go against well-spoken, arguementative and public-spirited “celebrities” (much as I hate that word) and see how they get on against a proper opposition rather than a load of other troughers wearing different coloured rosettes…
“Springing immediately to mind are Ian Hislop, Nicky Campell and Benedict Brogan who get the expenses story for the DT.”
I rest my case.
No matter what you think of the aforementioned individuals, would you not prefer them to the current lot of only-in-it-for-themselves party-whipped Hoons??
Feel free to suggest some names of your own if you don’t like mine, maybe we could get enough of them to really make a difference?
How about getting Jezza Clarkson to run in Buckingham to unseat Bercow
Ken Dodd: Chancellor
Jade Goody:Pensions
Mad Frankie Fraser:Justice sec
Del Trotter:Business and enterprise
Michael Winner:Speaker
Max Mosely:Chief Whip
Katie Price:Standards and privilage committee
Sven Erikson:Foreign affairs
Pete Doherty:Health and medical research
Amy Winehouse:Education
She does give a bloody fine blow job though.
Have you ever seen her on Question Time? She’s a fucking nutjob.
If there is anything worse than an MP its a “helpline”
http://www.accidentadvicehelpline.co.uk/esther_tv_advert/
Yep. Accident ‘helplines’ are the spawn of Satan. Like Carol Vorderman doing Ocean Finance ads.
‘Hello muppet daytime TV addicts. Spent all your money from this lifetime and the next buying plastic shit from Argos? Can’t get any more credit? Bills all getting you down? Why not just borrow a shed load more money and treat yourself to a new car or a foreign holiday? It’s just a simple phonecall away. I’m Carol Vorderman. I’m clever. It must be okay…’
Just think she go before a commons select commitee and show them carrots that look like cocks !- sausages .
Typical of The Berc!
Mr Ed the talking horse has fixed things with Muffin, I can’t rain carrots can it?, Oh yes it can!, again and Gain and a Gain.
Is this what a S/pedo Shits wet dream looks like?
Pity the recording was cut short, just what was she going to say after: Your an A one…? (not suitable for kids tv I suspect).
All the worst case “Champagne Socialists” troughers know they are out at the next election, so they are looking to line their coffers before they go.
It will be interesting to see if they have sneeked improvements to their pension provisions through as well.
I notice New Labour serial apologist blog trolls Hardwidge and Master Baiter have been remarkably quiet on this one. Perhaps they have not had their brief from Michael Dugher, Ian Bundred or Balshan Izzet.
Come on boys, defend the indefensible until your paymasters are thrown out
Knock knock.
Who’s there?
Your local MP.
Fuck off you Hoon.
I shall no longer vote for Tory, Labour. or Liberal. Having read the manifesto I think the BNP will be my first choice, followed by UKIP and then various Independents. Of course we can’t be sure that they won’t rip us off. What we can be sure of is that the main parties will.
didn’t you see the sign on your way in?
no fascists.
scum like you are not welcome here brigham.
take your claptrap elsewhere numbnuts.
This country needs a revolution to clear out these pigs. It’ll never happen though – the chavs would want to break off to watch Eastenders or Coronation Street.
In the meantime we must ensure they are met and hassled wherever they go. They’re just a bunch of thieving scumbags.
OT,Some munchkin on Albeeb talking about the Swine flu fiasco says they are producing 132million doses of medicine 2 doses per population.
Question, when did we gain another 6million in population I thought we only had 60 million lazy twats to help support,are the extra doses just an incase or more Liebour lies about the population or somebody playing a violin as per while Rome burns.
Off topic I know, but I think we should be told.
Guido regularly runs cartoons that imply that Gordon Brown had an unfortunate accident in his trousers. Is there any evidence for this? If so please let us know.
He was about six months old at the time, and it caused quite a stink.
That was Rich and Mark’s take on John Prescott using the two toilets that were paid on his expense giving him the “Two Bogs” monika.
This was not Gordon Brown as we all know he evacuates his bowels through his gob
Try and keep up
The proverbial biscuit has been taken
I’m really angry
Time for Brown to get his arse back to London now to explain his support for this pilfering of the collection box
Time to take to the streets
The bastards!!!
There’s nobody left in London to interview him !!!
Not even any Somalis? Things must be bad.
Where’s Hardwinge when you need him?
He’s still eating. That humble pie is very filling, you know.
Oh FFS, the cυnt never stays on topic anyway, so whats the point?
Maybe I’ve got this all wrong, and if I have perhaps someone would be kind enough to correct me.
I thought a major review of MPs pay, pensions and expenses was being conducted by Sir Christopher Kelly. He was pressurised by the Prime Mentalist to report before the summer recess, but resisted the pressure and expects to report some time in October.
If that is the case, all the current legislation and (entirely justifiable) public disgust at MPs troughing is all just ‘noises off’ to some extent. The real reforms will occur following the publication of the Kelly report.
If this is true, they have 3 months to squeeze as much out of the system as they can.
They’re always squeezing one out, the fucking wankers.
Nearly right Engineer.
The Kelly report will be delivered to the Government, who will or will not use it as the basis for introducing legislation which may or may not either implement all Kelly’s recommendations, some of them or none of them, or the Government may just decide that Kelly’s report should be recycled as Parliamentary toilet paper.
It will be the Government that will introduce the lesiglation, and MPs who will vote on it. Turkeys, Christmas…??
Quite so. They got Sir James Crosby to try and write them an independent report justifying ID cards. His report did no such thing and so it was buried.
This government pays no attention to ‘independent’ reports unless their conclusions coincide with what they had already planned to do.
I suppose another factor is Kelly’s remit. Is his committee consulting within Parliament, or taking soundings from the wider world? Obviously, the latter would be preferable, and would make it more difficult for the House to reject his findings, when the House debates them. The cynic in me does not hold out great hope of sensible reform, but we shall see….
Good point about Kelly’s remit there, according to the Times the remit is narrow and will only look at the existing system and how it can be modified, rather than stepping back and looking at how MPs are renumerated from scratch (as most of the public want him to do)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article3321921.ece
This does look as though it’s true. MP’s slid this through quietly when they thought no-one was looking.
S-KARRKH! PHWEET!! KRIPPLEKRIPPLEKRIPPLE! BITCHBITCHBITCH! (ping)
Why is it ever time a report or enquiry is announced we (some of us) think its yet another excuse to kick the issues into the long grass, don’t you just get that sinking feeling when yet another Sir, Lord or Dame is hand picked to come up with the ‘right’ conclusions at the ‘right’ time, hardly an exercise in impartiality more an exercise in political expediency and self-interest.
They are all either whitewash (think of the Hutton report in to David Kelly’s death) or ignored (think of the Wanless report into the future of the NHS).
The Hutton and Wanless Reports are just two examples. They whitewash everything they’ve touched if they think the truth might come out.
I have an idea for a themed restaurant, with dark wooden panelling, green-upholstered benches and the tables rising in tiers from a central well. The food would be served in little individual troughs. The person in each party who was paying the bill would be addressed as ‘Taxpayer’ while the others would be ‘Honourable Sir’ or ‘Honourable Madam’. There would be no music, but random outbursts of animal noises.
It would only be open for six months of the year but would be so fantastically expensive that I would make a fortune out of it – and with a bit of jiggery-pokery a lot of that profit would be tax-free.
Waiter I would like to make an order order.
That would make a good name for a website…..
I really despair, will it come to a revolution before these despicable troughers are expunged from our midst?
Can’t you set Bluto on them?
I am with you. My own strategy is to harrass my own M.P.
which I continue to do since the first disclosure of impropriety.
There will be no revolution. Personalise all the troughing issues. Humiliate
them if you can ,then vote against them so they can never repeat the
disgraceful behaviour.
I tried to harrass my MP. I have written to him on several occasions. He’s only ever replied to me once, and his reply was patronising and arrogant.
I need to calm down a bit before I start to compose another letter, otherwise I’ll probably get arrested under the Terrorism Act.
Shelling Out.
Do not relent. That is what these troughers want,for you to throw the towel in.
Let your M.P. s Constituency Executive know how you feel and how you
will never vote again for the encumbent and then campaign that message
to friends,neighbours and family who feel so like minded.
Let anger drive you forward.Do not weaken. I will not.
I’ve been writing to mine for a year now. When the exe’s scandal broke, i wrote the best letter of my life and gave him both barrels. He wrote back agreeing with me, but promised to continue to serve his constituants and prepare to be judged at the election. He’s in one of the safest seats in parliament. Fucker!
Was that pure wit, or have your bowels opened again?
Fraid not old chap. It’s not the British way.
You’re about as witty as a dead traffic warden.
Fuck off.
Preferable to listening to your verbal diarrhea.
Didn’t happen in my day.
The only fuckers giving us blood on the streets are the Met old chum.
Is THIS why Labour pushed so hard for Speaker Bercow? I bet it is.
Of course it is. They stick together. They knew they would have to get a Tory in but they needed one who would toe the expenses line. Bercow fitted the bill perfectly.
I wasn’t on this blog last year – just shows how much you know.
He’s a crackhead, so I wouldn’t bother.
Once fullof shit, always full of shit.
Fuck the lot of them off come the General Election.
Don’t count on a GE to change anything.
Way back in the 1950s ITV used to have all-in wrestling on black and white television on a Saturday afternoon. We were treated to the spectacle of such fearsome people as “Big Daddy” and “Giant Haystacks” knocking seven bells out of each other – at least that’s what we were meant to believe. In reality the whole thing was an elaborately staged sham. All the protagonists were members of the same profession and the best of mates out of the public eye. Remind you of anything?
You have arrived late Speedo,where you been,Job Centre signing on?
Tax free hot air from France? Like our gas, you mean?
No – I mean Gas.
SUEZ and Gaz de France jointly acquire U.K. Teesside Power plant, Europe’s largest combined-cycle gas turbine plant (1,875 MW)
Gaz de France and SUEZ have together acquired a 1,875 MW CCGT power plant located in northeast England.
I see bloggings answer to swine flu has turned up. Fuck off you jock retard.
Fuck. He’s found another IP address.
Parlimentary democracy in this country is becoming a self serving joke. more and more layers of government and bureacracy all busy bleeding us dry fron the EUssr to the local councils. Layer upon layer of misfits with delusions of competence.
I have no idea what social cohesion is or is meant to achieve but we have a fucking Minister and shadow for it and you can bet it costs shit loads of money to cohese all of us.
What’s the alternative to Parlimentary democracy? whatever it is it’s got to be more democratic than what we have.
I think I agree with RRRW(mrs) Revolution is needed. To think we put our trust, hopes and aspirations of and for a better UK in the hands of these thieving pricks and dipsticks.
Common Purpose
http://www.stopcp.com/
We don’t need more democracy, we need a constitution that places a restraint on government, not empowering it further in the name of mob rule.
The same system just with different people will, in time, have the same outputs.
VOTE FOR ME
THERE WILL BE NO MORE BOOM AND BUST
THAT’S MY PROMISE
…see here:
I never said that. It wasn’t me. And even if it was, which it wasn’t, I didn’t mean that. What I meant was no more Tory boom and bust. Obviously.
And anyway there was no bust. And even if there was a bust, which there wasn’t, it wasn’t my fault. It was the banks fault. It was the yanks fault. It was the regulators fault. It was an age of irresponsibility. It was the do-nothing Tories.
I’m getting on with the job. Forward not backward. Lessons have been learned.
Vote Labour.
Oh do fuck off.
But don’t die…..not at least until after the election
Title says it all really.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnipHUBRMfU&NR=1
P.s, no smutty references, they were all maliciously made up apparently, although allusions to serving M.Ps and Lords in the ‘Black Pig’ are quite acceptable.
You just canb’t keep me out of the news !!!
The next date of U2’s mammoth worldwide tour was in doubt today after Charles E Hardwidge held up the removal of its custom-built stage from Ireland.
Charles E Hardwidge and friends mounted a picket outside Dublin’s Croke Park stadium, where the world-famous rock band last night finished three homecoming gigs in front of 240,000 fans.
Dozens of trucks were blocked when they arrived in the early hours to a remove the sound system and 56 tonnes of video equipment for the group’s next two dates in Gothenburg, Sweden
I thought all the electricians were on strike in Ireland. Their miracle economy. Which was even more of a miracle than our miracle economy has collapsed even more spectacularly thean the UK’s.
It seems (and whisper it quietly) that their houses weren’t worth quite as much as they thought they were either.
Silly arses.
Remember Ireland was put up as the great sucess of EU funded dependency !
Slightly offtopic but relevant nonetheless.
John Kingman to step down as UKFI chief executive
The Government was today facing further embarrassment over its handling of the UK banking crisis after the man in charge of managing the taxpayers’ interest in the nationalised and part-nationalised lenders announced shock plans to step down.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article6730212.ece
So the man Gordoom and Darling wanted to sort out their mess has had enough already – looks like he’s heading into the City…
The rats are already leaving the sinking ship. Kingman knows he’ll have to secure his future now. If he waits any longer he’ll be tainted by associaation.
O/T but relevant. If Northern Rock are said to be ahead of schedule in their paying back of the government handout, why is Gordon planning to sell it off before the next election?
Remember this is the guy who not only sold off half the country’s gold reserves but gave the markets notice that he was going to do so – therefore forcing the price way down beforehand.
The best thing the govt could do with the nationalised banks is to hold on to them as long as possible, then sell them at the top of the next economic cycle, say in 5 years’ time. It’s called maximising return on investment, but the government woldn’t know fuck all about that, it being our money and not theirs…
That was part of my point. I also thought that Government don’t have any petty cash, do they. Selling off NR might give them a few hundred million in the kitty to tide them over until after the election. They’ll need a sweetner for all the idiots who think they’ve done a marvellous job, so they can count on their vote.
From the National Audit Office at http://www.nao.org.uk/idoc.ashx?docId=0a31e70d-26ac-48f3-b596-53fc5402a3ce&version=-1. Why have the recent NAO reports been buried by the MSM?
REPORT BY THE COMPTROLLER AND AUDITOR GENERAL TO THE
HOUSE OF COMMONS
Introduction
1 In 2008-09, the Home Office spent some £79,094,000 more resources
than Parliament had authorised in the Supply Estimate. This represents
an “excess” for which further Parliamentary authority is required and I
have, therefore, qualified my opinion on the Department’s Resource
Accounts.
Cherchez la femme.
So the NAO are not signing the accounts as there’s 80 million quid unaccounted for.
Good on them, now how do we get teh MSM to pick this up?
80 million quid eh? I wonder how they’re going to brush that under the carpet.
Every sitting MP should be booted out at the next election.
The so-and sos would get round that by claiming that they weren’t sitting, they were standing for re-election.
In which case, vote for someone else.
“The so-and sos…..”
Is that the best you can come up with Engineer? They are cads and bounders at the very least.
Would “hoons” do?
Very nicely.
Not everyone is a foul mouthed c unt on here you know
just aswell or I’d be out of a job innit.
If there had been prosecutions
If there had been mass deselection rather than the odd sacrifical offering.
If HMR & C were all over these crooks like flies around a shite pile.
If we had seen a full and honest enquiry into the whole issue of troughing
If we had seen a complete review of MP’s perks
If we saw a reversal of a full pension for fuck all time put in
If we had a review to look at MP’s holiday time mirroring school holidays
Then & only then would it be fair to allow £25 a day (during term time) unreceipted expenses.
In the meantime, Hang the Bastards.
Well said that man.
I reckon I could do them in threes.
The Oaf GuidOrcs,
Great news on your apparent trading loss.
Keep it up.
By the way, Tom Watson is ok.
He’s also looking forward to a handsome payout from the Dirty Digger’s pathetic bagmen.
“By the way, Tom Watson is ok.”
Yeah, he’s probably on his 5th Big Mac with fries, the fucking lard arse.
Yes and thanks to the largess of the Setting Sun and its sister papers he will be able to indulge himself with some gourmet treats instead.
A skip full of Turkey Twizzlers no doubt, the fat cυnt.
Truffles?
He’s O(in)K.
tom watson will definitely die of a heart attack having a wank.
greedy fat sweaty pig.
No but it looks like he will be lying on a bed of money courtesy of sun readers and sky subscribers.
If they can’t trough they go on holiday, sorry fact finding missions.
Holidays and fact finding missions paid for by the taxpaper. No relief from troughing there.
we need a general strike…….also a tax strike……..
and a guillotine in trafalgar square!
We certainly need something or we will drift to the election next year, which could be ‘postponed’ because of a national emergency caused by H1N1 flu pandemic, and 10 months is to long to wait. We are in a deep hole, and we must start the task of getting out of it sooner rather than later. So many issues, each and everyday, but this bunch in charge keep ongoing, we will need a bigger gun to put them down. The latest brain waves, use of twitter, 20 pages of instruction, bank holiday to remember those who have died in work (but reduce compensation for those injured in the course of defending our country!). Power mad. Then the great loard of darkness basically saying to the universities, put up your fees. My son has just finished uni, got a good degree in chemistry, 20k debt, no meaniful job prospect, the man is on a different planet, the government are on a different planet. Please go away, stay away and let others sort this mess out. And for those saying vote for independents, we need people with knowledge and experience to get us out of this hole, not some TV celeb satnding in Luton.
The state paid for the MPs university education, which was how it was then. They don’t know what to tax us all on next, but I’m sure they’ll set up another quango to find out.
Unfortunately, you’ll need planning permission first.
Guido
I just visited the sunlight site intending to contribute to the campaign for prosecuting jacqui smith. My observations …
The site impressed me as pretty amateurish and did not inspire much confidence, nonetheless, I browsed around and continued to the donation section and started to fill in my credit card details …. then stopped. Why do they want my address telephone and email to make a payment? I admit to being a bit paranoid about giving out information when I don’t see the need for it, but I make many payments via the internet where name credit card number and security code suffice, including the campaign for FOI. In this case, the details requested combined with my first impressions of the site were enough to put me off. I wonder how many others have been similarly dissuaded.
I still want to contribute to a fund to prosecute errant MPs and will keep checking back on the site, in the hope that it improves. As an old – but not that old :) – hand on professional presentation, maybe you could offer them some advice.
http://www.sunlight-cops.org.uk/donate/ also shows options to donate by phone or by cheque.
Much better than the PayPal system who are based overseas in the US, where rules on data protection are somewhat different to those in the EU…
I was a bit unhappy about the fact that I couldn’t see an account for “the prosecution of Jacqui Smith” or somesuch, just what appears to be a general route to the organisation’s general pot. I did not and will not donate until it is clear that my money will be used toward that specific purpose. I have nowt against the centre or it’s aims, just that I want the small amount that I can afford to donate to be for the job I gave it for.
Since ‘97 I have become distrusting of so much. I am conscious that I am reduced as an happy human being. I blame the politicians. All of them.
We’re all just monkeys in shoes. (Tim Minchin).
And now over to Elizabeth Saary for the wether. ( Louise Minchin)
Hey Guido,
Psst! Strictly entre-nous, comprenez vous, mon ami?
No more Rose wine, time for the Dom Perignon.
Want an insider tip that I’ll share only with you and my very closest friends? Looks like HMG aka Common Purpose charity has set-up this deal in advance. Seems as though there’s about to be a trashing of share value for Northern Rook shareholders when the receiver counts the beans.
But just look who is waiting in the wings, it’s a dead cert matey. Yip, the one company that can do no wrong, not even the Competition Commission stops them in their tracks. The big T is where you should invest – fast – before the uptake. They’re going to be the next big banking operation. Even got former RBS Benny Higgins on-board now.
Government and Gordon are going to spin it well this time. Worthless bank sold for a couple of million – another UK success story – All hail Gordon & Terry.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090728/tuk-ex-shareholders-lose-rock-challenge-6323e80.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20090703-704181.html
ciao baby
Berlusconi
And as we speak, the Labour Government is in Court using taxpayers money to claw back compensation for wounded soldiers.
These are just any bastards, these are new Labour bastards.
Tot up the money the front bench of that Cabal of Crooks has taken then measure it against the trifling amounts they give to those they sent to win the hearts & minds of a 7th century culture.
The anger grows & grows – & they just don’t get it, or care, or both.
I am hoping very much that the govt. is going to lose that Court case. Of all the disgraceful treatment that gordon has dished out to the armed forces, this latest act is the most despicable and the clear mark of a collapsed corrupt govt.
Either way , win or lose they’ve just smacked another nail into their own coffin with it.
They seem to think this is the way to win votes. Odd people.
I’m beginning to think that they’re deliberately trying to provoke riots. That way they can call off next year’s election under the Emergency Powers Act. Or are they just thick twats?
OT.
The UK economy is saved. House prices record first month on month rise since January 2008. A thumping 0.1%.
Huzzah!!! We can all go out and borrow a shed-load more money because our house ‘went up’ by 150 quid last month. Way-hay. It will be just like 2001 – 2007 again. We can borrow and squander, borrow and squander and borrow and squander. We can buy houses and sell them to each other. We’ll be able to afford a new German car, a holiday in the Seychelles and a container load of plastic Chinese shit.
All we need is for the banks to agree that our house is in fact, by virtue of us just living there, increasing in value and they’ll send us cheques in the post. like before.
The miracle economy is back on track!!!
Do I detect the faintest hint of sarcasm?
Speedies disappeared.
Looks like Guido’s found a moderator – well done Sir. Now to get rid of the TwAT please??
you will be gotten rid of before I am you dirty tramp.
that is a fact steve.
Bye Bye Tat, you’ll be moderated into the ether soon enough.
said the retarded compulsive wanker.
I didn’t like to say in case it wasn’t true. But thank heavens – the air feels nice and clean and clear now.
Nell – my apologies to you if I upset you yesterday evening. I was posting under my own screen-name, not being imitated. I’d had enough of Speedo abusing people, and thought I’d give him a taste of his own medicine.
Half a lifetime in drawing offices, workshops and construction sites equips one with a broad range of dubious humour and an extensive vocabulary which I usually choose not to use in mixed company. Sorry if I shattered some illusions!
Back to normal now, I hope.
You didn’t upset me – he did – I thought he was using your name to cause confusion just like he’d been using mine. It got so that you couldn’t tell who was real and who wasn’t. I daresay that was their intention. If I’d realised it was you I would have been applauding.
And every time he and charlie posted I got this very strong picture of TWatson and Damian in my mind – very disconcerting!!
On balance I would keep TaT. He gets over-excited at times, but he also makes a few good points on military topics. From time to time. The bluster doesn’t harm anyone, as far as I can see it’s just branding.
At last wafts of clean air for a change!
Democracy? What sodding democracy?
Being slowly replaced by EU fascism.
Does anyone think there is any chance of the Irish voting No to the Lisbon Treaty ?
That at least might slow up the gravy train for some – notably Tony who is preparing to make the sacrifice and reluctantly accept the EU Presidency.
The concessions over taxation and the abortion issue might be enough to pull them ‘on side’ unfortunately.
Cameron could win the next election with a landslide if he promised a referendum regardless of the Irish; but then the simmering discontent on his own back benches could erupt into open warfare.
Nell
Nell, they have already voted ‘No’
The point is that they will keep being asked ’til they vote ‘Yes’ and they will never be asked again.
Democracy EU style.
I’m just back from a comedy festival in Dublin. Most of the stuff I saw was based around the ecomony etc. So although I had a laugh, it wasn’t much of an escape from reality.
You’re already way ahead of the game with that one Dack Blog.
If only.
Just back from Iceland, not the store. They are doing pretty well, due to the kroner devaluation, in marked contrast to the EU-member states whose economy, shackled to the Euro, is going down the toilet.
If the Irish know which side their barmbrack is buttered, they’ll keep saying no.
It would seem that Speedo Skirts and Charlie Hardwodge have been redacted.
Thanks, Guido. The place is much pleasanter without them. Sorry for interrupting your holiday, but you’ve earned a decent bottle or two – enjoy.
P.S. Hope it’s pissing down as much where you are as it is here – if we’ve got to suffer, why should you have all the sun….
Once upon a time there were three billy goats called chronic,Engineer and Guido. In the winter they lived in a barn in the valleyspring came they , but when the longed to travel up to the mountains to eat the lush sweet grass.
On their way to the mountains the three Billy Goats chronic,Engineer and Guido had to cross a rushing river. But there was only one bridge across it, made of wooden planks. And underneath the bridge there lived a terrible, ugly, one-eyed speedo.
Nobody was allowed to cross the bridge without the troll’s permission – and nobody ever got permission. He always ate them up.
The smallest Billy Goat chronic was first to reach the bridge. Trippity-trop, trippity-trop went his little hooves as he trotted over the wooden planks. Ting-tang, ting-tang went the little bell round his neck.
“Who’s that trotting over my bridge?” growled speedo from under the planks.
“Billy Goat chronic,” squeaked the smallest goat in his little voice. “I’m only going up to the mountain to eat the sweet spring grass.”
“Oh no, you’re not!” said speedo. “I’m going to eat you for breakfast!”
“Oh no, please Mr speedo,” pleaded chronic. “I’m only the smallest Billy Goat . I’m much too tiny for you to eat, and I wouldn’t taste very good. Why don’t you wait for my brother, the second Billy Goat Engineer? He’s much bigger than me and would be much more tasty.”
Speedo did not want to waste his time on a little goat if there was a bigger and better one to eat. “All right, you can cross my bridge,” he grunted. “Go and get fatter on the mountain and I’ll eat you on your way back!”
So the smallest Billy Goat chronic skipped across to the other side.
Speedo did not have to wait long for the second Billy Goat Engineer. Clip-clop, clip-clop went his hooves as he clattered over the wooden planks. Ding-dong, ding-dong went the bell around his neck.
“Who’s that clattering across my bridge?” screamed speedo, suddenly appearing from under the planks.
“Billy Goat Engineer,” said the second goat in his middle-sized voice. “I’m going up to the mountain to eat the lovely spring grass.”
“Oh no you’re not!” said speedo. “I’m going to eat you for breakfast.”
“Oh, no, please,” said the second goat. “I may be bigger than the first Billy Goat chronic, but I’m much smaller than my brother, the third Billy Goat Guido. Why don’t you wait for him? He would be much more of a meal than me.”
Speedo was getting very hungry, but he did not want to waste his appetite on a middle-sized goat if there was an even bigger one to come. “All right, you can cross my bridge,” he rumbled. “Go and get fatter on the mountain and I’ll eat you on your way back!”
So the middle-sized Billy Goat Engineer scampered across to the other side.
Speedo did not have to wait long for the third Billy Goat Guido. Tromp-tramp, tromp-tramp went his hooves as he stomped across the wooden planks. Bong-bang, bong-bang went the big bell round his neck.
“Who’s that stomping over my bridge?” roared the troll, resting his chin on his hands.
“Billy Goat Guido,” said the third goat in a deep voice. “I’m going up to the mountain to eat the lush spring grass.”
“Oh no you’re not,” said speedo as he clambered up on to the bridge. “I’m going to eat you for breakfast!”
“That’s what you think,” said the biggest Billy Goat Guido. Then he lowered his horns, galloped along the bridge and butted the ugly speedo. Up, up, up went speedo into the air… then down, down, down into the rushing river below. He disappeared below the swirling waters, and was drowned.
“So much for his breakfast,” thought the biggest Billy Goat Guido. “Now what about mine!” And he walked in triumph over the bridge to join his two brothers on the mountain pastures. From then on anyone could cross the bridge whenever they liked – thanks to the three Billy Goats.
The moral of this story is “Trolls Beware”.
+++smile+++ and we haven’t done much of that on here lately.
Chronic – I enjoyed that!
Chronic, I want to be one of the Billy Goats!
Too many words, and fucking boring. Little wonder the other numpties enjoyed it.
O/T, Taxpayers’ Alliance are reporting that the new 50% tax rate will lead to a reduction in income tax receipts due to less entrepreneurial activity and emigration of rich individuals to avoid the extra tax.
http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/research/2009/07/public-finances-series-no-1-tax-and-entrepreneurship-new-research-attacks-50p-tax-rate-that-will-mea.html
Dave, please have the guts to commit to scrapping this, it was always obvious what the result would be and Liebour just want to score political points with it.
Guido, thanks for the FT link, seems to make all the mud around this story a little clearer.
Dizzy, well done for your digging this morning, the MSM are picking up on it slowly :-)
Talking of expenses I see that BaronessU, this last week has now also come under investigation for claiming bogus travel expenses.
Apparently she claimed that she travelled every weekend, in her car, to that empty unoccupied Maidstone apartment ,that she tried to pretend was her main home, and claimed mileage expenses accordingly.
I do hope we are going to see a prosecution here.
According to Private Eye the Baroness, upon being fingered for her flamboyant concept of what honesty would look like, decided to grass up a shed-load of other, mainly Labour MPs. It looks like it was common knowledge anongst MPs who was taking the piss and how.
I think (Ho)Udinee might know a lot more and may be encouraged to squeal more loudly to save her piggy little hide. I wonder if she has the low-down on Iraq too. Clearly not a woman to be trusted with any information.
“Clearly not a woman to be trusted with any information”
Or anything else, for that matter.
Teacher wins £35,000 sexism claim against MoD
Published Date: 19 March 2009 Yorkshire Post
A TEACHER has won £35,000 from the Ministry of Defence after a tribunal upheld her claim that she had flown halfway around the world for a sham 13-minute interview because Army bosses were determined to hire a man.
ALSO Today guardian.co.uk
The Ministry of Defence (MoD) is going to the court of appeal to challenge a decision to award substantial increases in compensation to the two men.
Light Dragoon Anthony Duncan, who walks with crutches after being shot while on patrol in Iraq in 2005, was originally awarded £9,250. The sum was increased to £46,000 by an appeal tribuna
They should have shot her and flown the body home. It would have been a fuck of a sight cheaper.
Their argument being that they should only be responsible for the original injuries, not anything after that. Presumably our lads would have to sue the NHS?
This is bean counting gone mad. It’s all public money,so what is the difference?
It is:
The MOD are being squeezed by Mc Bruin and injury compensation payments have jumped from 1 million to 30 million. They also have to fund war pensions (another 1 billion)
and pay 6% storage of equipment charges to the Treasury. and fuck up procurements. and pander to inter service rivalries at more expense.
Blame should go where it belongs…….Gordon where are you?
I bet the Taleban are having a good laugh
Gypsies, tramps, and thieves
We’d hear it from the people of the blog – they’d call us
Gypsies, tramps, and thieves
But every night the lobbyists would come around
And lay their money down
Well…putting the the bust up between TaT and Dizzy to one side..at least Hardarse and Weirdo Speedo seem to have been neutralised (for a while,no doubt).
Perhaps I’ll miss them…
Nah!
Sorry..just seen posts a couple above.
Either spoke too soon or they’re fake Hardons and Tight Pants.
Completely O/T
William Shatner reads Sarah Palin’s resignation speech.
P.S. my reference to ‘gypsies’ was a quotation, not intended to cast aspersions on travelling people, with their admirable commitments to asset recycling, animal welfare and intimate family life.
And, of course, their well-known respect for private property and tidiness.
And honesty. Don’t forget their fully deserved reputation for honesty and honest dealings. And civility. And temperence. And their meticulously maintained vehicles. With scrupulously administered paperwork.
Don’t forget all that.
and their ability to lay quality tarmac drive ways.
They are as scrupulous about paying tax as many of the leading members of our nation.
Zingari ripugnanti!
Personally, I think democracy is a splendid thing. Anybody remember what Clive James said in “Question Time” about the fascist dangers from an out of control media that fancies itself as better able to govern than the goernment itself?
Not that I would class the g00d gu1d0 in that group of scoundrels – he’s just a little guy trying to do his level best for his country – in fact, I think if he was offered a job in government he would probably turn it down THAT, dear reader, is just how principled a man the g00d gu1d0 is. He is a stalwart of society with no pretentions to fame or power or wealth or anything else except his Christian moral principles.
That’s right Gu1d0, innit?
I thought you got deleted and banned – can’t you fuck off back to LiebourLust? Please…
Don’t be cheeky Nell
I see Guido more as a candidate for the diplomatic service – Our Man in Bangkok perhaps.
Do the Labour government’s ministry for phone taps (Prop. J. Straw) have some information you want to share with us?
Take aim…….fire!
New Labour, Party Political Broadcast for 2010….. (?) General Election:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spQY2FbCUtM
O.K. enough satire.
The disappearance of Shitty Shorts with both barrels up his manky arse has put the average IQ of this blog up by about 110%, but it’s left a few comments hanging in the breeze like tats moobs on an away day in Clacton.
“they would presumably still have to eat if they were not MPs?”
In a few years time the rule of the liblabcons will end. These bastards will then be rounded up and punished. After that they will not require anything at all to eat.
Who is this ‘typical’ person?
Well if this isn’t sticking two fingers up to the rest of us what is? Its about time we had a revolution!!
A full detailed and thorough investigation into the fraudsters Andrew MacKay and Julie Kirkbride is the only way to sort this nonsense out once and for all, as I have said before. The DT investigation was only the tip of the iceberg!
The point Mr G is that some MPs, like the ones in the north of England and Scotland and points north – and to be honest a few further south as well – need to maintain two residences and are required to run up quite a travel bill.
Thats what expenses are for. Its not earnings.
Meantime to feed your on prejudice you condone a load of shitty reporting by The Telegraph.
Try reading into the story a bit more.
No one here has an issue with an MP who needs a place to stay in London. No one here has an issue with an MP claiming travel expenses.
We do however have an issue with an MP claiming more money than I spend on groceries for a family of 4 in unreceipted claims to go out and spend on whatever they see fit. Quite simply any MP that has been taking unreceipted money for “expenses” is a thief and a liar. That’s what this story is about, the unreceipted cash in hand that an MP is allowed to claim in untaxed benefit.
[...] MPs Quietly Increase Unreceipted Expenses By 25% The post Expensegate updated “Green Book” of rules for MPs for expense claiming written essentially by MPs, [...] [...]
Transparency, War on sleaze, blah blah still not a single MP in prison for theft.
MP’s all of them plainly and simply, CROOKS, feathering their nests protecting their kind and giving their mates a leg up!
The bigger wankers are the people that toddle off to vote for more.
It’s quite simple really: don’t vote. Give up your pathetic tribalism and damn the lot of them.
I’d like to vote for someone who hasn’t committed tax fraud, but that means I can only vote for someone who’s never been an MP before.
So it depends on what our local selection procedures come up with; if they put forward a tory candidate who’s new and who says they won’t claim these kind of perks, then I’ll vote for them, if not then I’ll vote for any other new candidate who’s also not a labour candidate and who says they won’t claim these perks.
If no candidates say they won’t claim these perks, then I’m not voting.
[...] lookee! Those lovely people in parliament have rejigged their expenses to give themselves a little more without having to prove receipts. And they’re also [...]
Falsely claiming expenses is criminal. Tax free allowances are wrong. But the actual numbers ? What is your graph showing ? £55 / £60 k pa, minus actual expenses costs, which could easily exceed £10k. Is this unreasonable for an MP ? OK – it is given their shit performance. But for someone who did the job properly ?
What they write in their “rules” is totally irrelevant for this, because by classing them as expenses rather than perks and then claiming them but not paying tax on them they’re still breaking the law.
It’s down to the police/cps to nail the bastards.
MPs, despite what “laws” they sign-off in Parliament for themselves, are not above the generic tax laws. They are, every single one of them who’ve ever claimed an “expense” that was in reality a perk (and that’s all of them without exception as far as I can see), guilty of tax fraud.
Ignorance is no defence as far as tax laws go, neither is sheer greed a valid defence.
Where’s the fucking police/cps/hmrc in this? It’s massive blatant tax fraud being openly perpetrated by the very people who force the tax laws on everyone else.
By saying that “subsistence” is an expense rather than a perk they’re self-evidently breaking the law, and they’re also encouraging other MPs who follow them in future to break the law too. They’re writing a book which basically tells fellow MPs that they should break the law.
I’m pissed off that they get paid extra cash to pay for their daily bread, but classing that as a non-taxable expense instead of a perk/income is just pissing in your face and shitting down your neck.
Riot time I reckon; kick these fuckers out now.
This would be funny if it didn’t have a ring of truth about it
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/labour-manifesto-to-focus-on-bullying-injured-soldiers-200907281936/
Nothing will change until the gutters around Westminster, Whitehall and the BBC Television Centre run with the blood of all the parasites that have grown fat as a result of Cultural Marxist Revolution carried out by ZanuLiebour and their acolytes since 1997.
As far as I can see, the “expenses” elements on that graph are bogus.
They’re perks parading as expenses, and should be taxed just like income, therefore the “salary” equivalent of that expenses element is actually double what the graph says.
ie the graph hints at around £15,000 per year as an income boost from expenses, whereas in fact it’s more like an extra £30,000 equivalent gross income boost because of the tax aspect.
or am I missing something, or is my maths shite?
you are only missing the Revenue Service, who , if it were you or I, would be up us like a rat up a drainpipe.
They think they have gotten away with it now.
That means the ball is in our court and time will tell whether they are right or not.
I hope ‘we’ don’t let them off too lightly!
We don’t need a change of government, we need a complete purge of the political class!
Vote Richard Dannatt suspend the commons for 5 years.
Well done Harriet Harman you are truly wonderful for the underrepresented people in Parliament.
While they are all rewarding themselves at our expense, soldiers dying for the country are being shafted by needle dick accountants.
Check the following out,to give a pension would cost less than an MPs food bill, not to mention all the other add-ons.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/index.html
THE MATTER OF LEGAL COSTS AND MPS’ EXPENSES
Michael Martin speaker of the House of Commons and Chairman of the Expenses Committee did everything in his power to cover-up the abuse of his, and other MPs’ expenses. In principle and in law the decision of the trial judge is said to be res-judicata, which means, “decided by a competent court as final”. Even after res-judicata whilst in possession of Constructive Notice and Constructive Trust, inter alia, he made a further vexatious and oppressive application to the Court of Appeal in an attempt to cover up the true extent of the expenses, which is an abuse of process, inter alia.
Harriet Harman MP, said, that MPs’ had acted within the spirit of the rules. However, both Harriet Harman and Alistair Darling, being lawyers, ought to know that the rules have no Locus standi in principle and in law and are contrary to the “Spirit of the Law” inter alia. All MPs’ expenses, at all times, must be accountable and transparent.
The legal costs, according to Michael Martin’s legal representatives, were in or around £500,000 for which the taxpayer is forced to pick up the tab. Martin must pay these costs. In principle and in law proceedings can also be brought against: legislation; the rules and any orders and decisions made.
The questions that need to be answered are:
1. What steps have been taken to recover from Michael Martin MP, the legal costs and fees run up by Michael Martin?
2. What steps have been taken to recover from MPs’, expenses that are not legitimate, inter alia?
3. Who is ultimately responsible and accountable for the recovery of all these expenses, legal costs and fees?
4. When will all accounts and evidence be made available and placed in the public domain to show complete transparency, accountability and proof, that all expenses, legal costs and fees have been paid back to the Taxpayer?
In principle and in law, on equitable grounds and as this is a matter of public interest I would strongly advise Alistair Darling to give full and proper comprehensive answers to the above questions.
As we have seen, attempts have been made to black out the true extent of MPs’ expenses. In such circumstances it is appropriate to institute legal proceedings seeking injunctions inter alia.
I would strongly advise Alistair Darling that those involved in the expenses scandal and its cover-up, most foul, would be ill-advised to rely upon the use of whitewash. Any attempt to black out expenses, is an attempt to oust the authority of the Court and in such circumstances it may be appropriate for indictment proceedings.
The proposals that were put forward to clean up MPs’ expenses have been watered down. It seems that the new body set up to over-see MPs’ expenses is nothing more than a society for the protection of MPs’. Let me make it perfectly clear to Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling, that regardless of its independence, any attempt to make it exempt from the jurisdiction of law and independence of the Court would be unlawful and contrary to EU Articles, inter alia.
In a democracy No Government or MP is above the law. Our MPs’ have no respect for the checks and balances of democracy.
“Where one man is more powerful that the other and uses his power oppressively he must pay for his illegality and bullying in the ordinary way…… But for officers of the crown their power must be subordinate to their duty of care.” Rooks v Barnard, Lord Devlin HOL.