High Tory Versus Trad-Modern Cameroon
Guido very much enjoyed reading the Geoffrey Wheatcroft broadside at the Cameroons. He complains that “the party of Pitt and Salisbury uses the vocabulary of the criminal classes”. It is a marvellous attack, deriding Cameron for being downmarket. Just goes to show, one man’s toff is another man’s “unprincipled bounder”. Hope they dig out Perry Worsthorne for more of this sport…
Oi, oi !!!
Thank God that the Labour party are so perfect: look at their ‘finest’, Mandelson, Prescott, Purnell, Jackboot Jacqui, Malik, McPoison, Baroness (?) Houdini, Bob Aintworth-Atoss, Del Boy Draper….I could go on but simply listing a few of their ‘talented’ members is making my stomach turn.
TWatson, damian, balls, harriett – a fine, fine labour team -
Although to be fair the article does describe labour as squalid – prety accurate.
Squalid ?? That’s what I’d call panegyrical.
Andy “I have no recollection” Coulson.
Coulson was always a disaster waiting to happen.
nearly 60 years later, when Churchill died, Evelyn Waugh told a friend that he had never admired him: “Always in the wrong, always surrounded by crooks.”
How true.
16.Mr McGeddon.
++smile++ ‘panegyrical’ – that sent me for my dictionary.
I’ll try to do better next time.
Wheatcroft, looking more like Whacko Jacko after 6 weeks in his crypt, states ‘Person for person, the opposition front bench is now unquestionably stronger in intellectual ability than the cabinet, even if that’s not saying much, and Cameron has run rings round Gordon Brown. ‘
Thunderbox says any news rag is unquestionably preferable to the Guardian, the silly sheet for loosers,Lap Dance Polly and George Mombiot. Have you noticed they artificially raise their circulation figures by donating copies to ‘cheapo’ hotels on weekends. Most copies are dumped unread the following morning.
I agree; the Wheatcroft article rang true. Perry Worsthorne (born Koch de Gooryend or somesuch) is an old whig queen and is more interested in dogs than politics nowadays. He taught Paxman how to sneer.
Tom Watson AKA jabba the Hutts ugly cousin, favourite and confidant of the BBC lies factory, all round lying shit of the first water.
You forgot Blair.
I’ve been trrying to forget him for years. Next year I’m going to try to forget McShite and his sorry crowd of incompetent hoons.
You forgot Straw.
MB
Interestingly, although Evelyn Waugh was a great writer he was also an insufferable snob. Strange therefore that someone who appears to support a party that allegedly champions the common people should quote Waugh in support.
They are all a complete shower of shits, crooks, thieves, traitors, bastards, child stealing paedophiles and terrorists. We need 647 strong boughs and the same number of lengths of STRONG rope.
What’s with strong rope? the consensus has been piano-wire for months.
Evelyn was indeed. If he were alive today I’d smack his jowly face. His son ‘Bron was better. It was he who identified socialists as either: very nasty or very stupid people.
We know which category Master Baiter falls into.
Hey – you fooking leave Derek Draper out of it, okay?
You are Derek Draper and I claim by ten pounds.
I also claim MY ten pounds…
He’s a Scotsman. You’ve got no chance!
You might get 10 pounds of lard out of his sweatie socks.
steve you fucking stupid tramp!
it is not I claim my ten pounds you cretin!
it is I claim my £5.
that’s your problem innit steve, you just can’t get things right.
you always fuck up and no matter how hard you try, and God you do toil steve; you are toiling so much you are sweating like a fucking rapist on the scene of the crime: but despite all your creepy attempts to make friends here you still don’t quite fit in.
that is why you are a tramp.
take control of your own life steve. the best way forward would be for you to stop taking cocaine and crackcocaine. you must vanquish your addictions if you wish to stop being a homeless smelly tramp.
good luck steve.
not looking good though, is it?
Thick as Thieves its “AT the scene of a crime” not ” ON the scene of a crime”, Really sometimes you are so let down by your grammar you tramp !
and you are let down by your coarse vulgarity! you cheeky fucking c’unt.
you may have regular dealings with the courts and the police you shady fucker but I do not sir.
and I rather took it for granted that the rapist would be by definition ‘on the scene of the crime’ quite literally. and you are also arbitarily disallowing poetic licence as phonetically both ‘on’ and ‘at’ work equally as well as each other.
and finally you also forget that this is just a blog and not a court of law.
try not to be such a stupid fucking cripple in future, eh? we do not require court term jihadists skulking around here thankyou very much. we have just got rid of the apostrophe jihadist mob.
a nit picking uptight motherfucker like you would be best served departing this place and going straight to conservativefoam to join your fellow pompous imbeciles.
GO TO CONSERVATIVEFOAM GO THERE NOW!
good cripple.
well done!
He looked a bit irked with Toenails.
Where labor party stands for depends on where it sits.
it’s on its arse
mandelson, looking wild eyed on Newsnight last night confirmed that.
He looked a bit peeved with Toenails.
Speaking of Draper…..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1202812/Kate-Garraway-husband-Derek-Draper-arrive-hospital.html
He looks like he should be on a bench somewhere drinking meths out of a brown paper bag.
MANDELSON HAS TO BE SATAN INCARNATE. He makes lying look so easy. He is nothing less than a serpent in almost human form.
We need an arrest list – he’s at the top along with many of Satan’s other ‘little helpers’ mentioned here.
Ed Balls says the Labour Party is..
“clearer and more attuned to the realities of the modern world than we’ve been been at any time since I joined politics. Gordon is that sort of leader.”
Interestingly ambiguous statement!
*Y-a-w-n*
Back when I suggested that big business and a failed society were sending Britain down the path to becoming a basket case economy, the usual suspects reacted with outrage because it touched on how the CBI, Tories, and themselves might be part of the problem.
Now Britain is in real difficulty but the government has presented and is executing a plan for recovery, suddenly, those self same people are crying “failed state”. As with the Damien Green affair, they trivialise issues of real substance while tub thumping for mere political advantage.
Ah, well. That’s ego for you…
Well I suppose we should be grateful that it’s taken you most of the day to find another IP address…..
Being totally ignorant of such things Eng – is the IP address related to an individual computer or to the server that we each use?
Pity he can’t find his f***ing medication.
It’s assigned to your own computer, Nell.
But he might be going via a proxy server to mask his true identity.
41 Adrian – so does that mean that someone working in a government office with lots of computers like TWatson and EdBals, could just keep changing the computer each time Guido blocks the IP?
Unless Adrian knows more than me, we need Steve Expat for this one…
Try this and perhaps stop fluttering the eyelashes, it’s a little sickening
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address
Odd how Baiter and Hardwidge suddenly reappear at the same time….
48 Nell. Till they ran out of computers to sit at. An IP address is hierarchial, like your home address. Your street number is unique to you, but the street name is shared by your neighbours etc etc. So if Guido mods using IP addresses, he could check using the high order part of the address to block a particular network/server etc. I’m trying to keep it simple so I stop there – you’ve got the idea.
nell, Engineer,
Think of an IP address as a computer’s telephone number.
Your phone at home has a number of its own, your phone at work is on a switchboard and all the calls out look like they come from the switchboard’s number.
Occasionally home networks have different IP addresses given to them every few days by the internet provider, as they are only ever used for outgoing calls. If you have more than one computer at home you normally only have a single IP address for all of them, same as with phones…
Hope this makes sense ;-)
…and for “Proxy Server” think of either the company switchboard, or one of those calling card numbers that give you cheaper international calls by dialling a prefix number that routes the call in a different way
Right back to work (maintaining a proxy server, among other things!!)
Policy, enforcement and standards of competence are neutral. The Tories are just taking trivialities and screaming fire in a packed cinema.
Cameron’s just rigid minded and petty, and the fact he has no policy focus is typical of someone like that. In the real world he’d never get promoted out of the post room. I know, I’ve met people like that.
Jeez, just let it go.
Thanks, Steve.
Thanks Steve.
But does that mean that someone, like Guido, could track the IP address to a location , particularly if that location were a big government office?
He can certainly block posts by username or IP address (thinking of someone with a habit of changing their name lots recently). There are certainly ways of tracking IP addresses (known as geo-location, it’s what the BBC use to block the iplayer abroad, grr).
It would not be too difficult to get a range of IP addresses that might be allocated to a particular internet service provider a company/govt department uses, and a good investigator could probably find out from someone at the ISP exactly where a particular IP address is allocated.
In simple terms nell, the answer to your question is “Yes, if he has the inclination to do so”…
302.Steve .Thanks
I see steve the crackhead tramp obviously found and read the idiots guide to the internet when he was scavenging through a skip looking for cardboard boxes to sleep on.
what a fucking tramp.
oh, and it is best to take steve’s posts with a pinch of salt.
steve expat is a liar.
it’s on the record.
Guido needs to sort the fecking clowns and trolls before his site goes down the fecking pan. That Charles fella might as well be a fecking computer for all the humanity he shows in his frankly fucking boring posts and the other two cnuts are just abusive.
Trolling is neither informative or funny and baiting trolls is a fucking waste of time.
what a fucking dick!
Thank you Jonathan! I wouldn’t mind the frequency of your comments so much if you weren’t so boring.
For crying out loud here’s my phone number if anyone in cyberspace wishes to call me
020 7930 4433
I am going on a free transfer to Conservativehome
LOL – that’s the Downing St. Press Office number!
Charles. A man called for you. He says he has booked a room. In the name of Brown. He doesn’t say if its his real name.
8pm at the London Hotel in Paddington. Room 12.
No pressure.
Back when I suggested that big business and a failed society were sending Britain down the path to becoming a basket case economy
The failed society was created by Labour – your party.
The basket case economy was touted as a sign of succes by Labour – your party.
“Big business” (a term so nebulous as to be devoid of objective meaning) only has the power and influence granted to it by Labour – your party.
Can you please explain to me how it is that the state of this country, its society and its economy is the fault of the Conservatives, who’ve been out of office for 12 years, or of Thatcher, who’s been out of office for 19 years?
You broke the country, Hardwidge. Your corrupt ideology, your authoritarian arrogance, your devotion to the acquisition of power, the imposition of dirigiste centralism and, above all, your complete and all-encompassing imbecility have broken this country. It’s a tragedy that, like most of your fellow travellers, you’re just too stupid to realise your own shortcomings.
Does this mean you think Liebore is to blame? Come on, don’t be shy, say it plainly.
dreamer, spinner, all round pillock & very occasionally, entertainer
This is where I stop humouring your vacuous etherial waffle, Draper or whoever you are. The Damian Green affair was an extremely unpleasant little scene. A civil service and police force politicised by Labour, not to mention Jackboot Jacqui herself, were responsible for having an opposition politician arrested, and rifling through his family’s personal possessions, for doing what was clearly in the public interest but also an inconvenient embarrassment to an overmighty and arrogant government. For you to say that this sort of thing is trivial shows why you bastards languish.
Wheatcroft will be out of a job when the Tories stop the Gruniard’s advertising revenue.
Oh! Am I still alive?
Those stories about me & Wystan Auden are all lies (ducky)
Perry
But not the ones about you and George Melly
954 – Quite true and if the Art School sofa could talk it would be corroborated. Oh! the indiscretions of youth certainly scar the individual for life.
The real quarry should be this unprincipled but authoritarian rabble that are subjecting us all to a series of spiteful and vindictive leaving presents.
can scorched earth be a policy?
That’s ‘Scotched Earth’
They’re deliberately destroying the economy (as they’ve deliberately destroyed the traditional British way of life in the last twelve years) so that Cameron will inherit a wasteland.
…..and then labour can blame them for making much needed cuts to get the economy back on track.
I could wish that he’d take KClarke as Chancellor (yes I know he’s pro EU and that’s unfortunate) but as a Chancellor he has gravitas –
George is something of a lightweight and I’m not at all sure he is going to be up to restoring the ruined economy that gordon is so determinedly blowing up at the moment.
Osborne is a liability – and I agree – get get Ken in.
I have mentioned my theory on this before – so apologies for any repeat. However, for those who weren’t listening:
Stage 1: Even with all the European Concessions being used to make the Bogey Muncher look good – I don’t think the treaty will be ratified
Stage2: If the treaty isn’t ratified – Uncle Ken is no longer such a Euro thorn in the Cameron side. So he gets rid of Osborne (who reminds me of the George out of Black Adder – a bit of a twit)
Stage 3: Ken is made Shadow Chancellor – big extra cred at the polls with his experience.
Stage 4: Tories get in – referendum on Europe – we all say know – Ken shuts up and gets on with sorting the mess labour have left
Here ends the reading
One thing some folks don’t get is the uncontrolled city and greed undermined foreign investment and drove people out of the country. All the talk of brain-drain is just Tory scaremongering to cover up the costs of the Thatcher legacy. By using the crisis to focus on developing business and fairness Labour can reverse this trend.
Be still, grasshopper.
Boring, Jonty.
A ginger with a friend? That’s more of a myth than Graphix Fiddletity.
Big fat Ken is a bob the bilder berg. That’s why he’s pro Eu and the Amro. Try google,it may inform you more than you desire. Traitors the whole lot of them.
We all own the wasteland!!!!!!!!!!!
Spot on Reaper as usual. Here they are the Command & Control boys, allegedly of course:
Alan Milburn: Former Trotsyist
Gordon Brown: student hard Leftist
Latest Defence Secretary, Bob Ainsworth: previouslyattended an unknown number of meetings of the secretive, pro-IRA International Marxist Group, an episode he flatly refuses to discuss further.
Doctor’ John Reid: adult member of the pro-Soviet Communist Party.
Peter Mandelson, once a member of the Young Communist League.
Alistair Darling: formerly anactive Trotskyist
Stephen Byers: formerly an active Trotskyist
Blair: allegedly member of CND
Kinnockio: allegedly member of CND
(documentation now shows that CND was partly funded by Soviet KGB)
And the sins of the father:
Ralph Miliband, father of the Milibland Boys: Marxist political theorist
Guido fans: fill in the missing gaps……..
Milibands’ ‘Polish’ grandfathers fought for Red Army(Bolsheviks) against the Poles.
Treachery runs in the blood.
Banks in government control.
Fascinating, if true.
Fortunately the Poles won a great victory at the Battle of Warsaw, winning Polish independence and pushing the Bolsheviks out of central Europe. Stalin never forgave them and gleefully invaded Poland in 1939 after making a dirty deal with Hitler. Yet there were still many traitors in the UK who sucked up to Stalin. Many of them rose to power within the Labour Party.
The Russian revolution was financed by Miliband’s racial and religious compatriots – the Jews.
TGR: are you suggesting that NuLiebour have always been the Stasi Party ???
The KGB funding of CND has been known in Intelligence Services for years. And the list earlier left out the fact that Jack Straw still thinks Che Guevarra was a hero of the people.
So do the people
Which people?
The people, presumably.
Not the people who had to spend time in his gulag.
No, including criminals, Che Guevara is widely admired.
Che Guevarra, personally murdered men, women and children prisoners at La Cabana Fort and signed the death warrants of hundreds more.
Some hero.
Socialists love murderers, its in their DNA.
Batista killed tens of thousands, Guevara helped overthrow Batista, the people admire Guevara. Some hundreds were tried and executed at La Cabana.
Guevara is a hero to the people.
Gangsters, brothel owners and monopoly fruit companies love murderers like Batista.
you need a holiday – try Bolivia
If Cuba is such a paradise, why are people prepared to risk their lives to get out and yet no-one would risk their lives to get in. The answer is that thecommunist system goes against natural human instinct and can only be enforced through violence and threats, eventually leading to a new elite leadership. Dreadful people, and Che was a screwed up, violent and sadistic tosser in reality.
Batista
Guantanamo Bay
Abu Ghraib
Blockade of Cuba
Fidel Castro
7 hour speeches
Kinnock’s role model
It was amusing when Guevara called a revolution in Bolivia and nobody turned up. He made a good T-shirt model at least.
Baiter reveals himself as a supporter of authoritarian far-left regimes. No doubt he thinks the USSR wasn’t so bad.
“Batista, endorsed by the Communist Party of Cuba, won free elections in 1940 and served a four year term as President of Cuba.[4][5] During this time, Batista carried out major social reforms.[5] He launched economic regulations and pro-union policies.[6] Later, after staging a coup in 1952, Batista resumed the presidency. Many describe him as a dictator [7] He was backed by labor unions[8], communists[9], and at first the U.S.[10], but The United States imposed an embargo on the government and recalled their ambassador, weakening the government’s mandate furthermore.[11] He became increasingly unpopular among the public.[citation needed] His support was limited to communists (PSP) and even communists began to pull their long-term support to Batista in mid-1958.[9] Labor unions backed Batista until the very end.[12] He was ousted on January 1, 1959, by guerrillas led by Fidel Castro and the 26th of July Movement.[10] Batista, reviled by many as a “corrupt tyrant”, fled the island in the early morning hours as rebel forces entered Havana.[13]”
Batista was a communist, just like most of the ZaNuLabour cabinet.
He was also a murderer and like all socialists, communists etc, needed to repress the people to stay in power.
Killing came easy to Batista, but then on the left it always does.
Murder, it is in the lefts DNA.
Oh, by the way, do you condone the cold blooded murder of children MB?
Your hero Che did and he did not give it a second thought.
“Some hundreds were tried and executed at La Cabana.”
A large number of whom were women and children, their only “crime” was to be related to someone who was opposed to Castro.
Guevarra personally executed many of them after a cursory hearing.
Some hero.
BORING!
shut the fuck up you boring right wing nazis and marxist tossers.
you prattle on like fucking fishwives. who gives a fuck about your stupid and infantile revisionism bullshit rants. you c’unts are as bad as each other.
shut the fuck up.
wankers.
You’ve missed out Fatty Clarke. Spent a year in Cuba in the 70’s.
We are basically being ruled by the 1976 NUS debating society. When you comprehend this, everything else falls into place. It’s all there, hidden away in plain sight. Go research and wonder!
alan johnsom , was once uk communist party leader
Ain’t-worth spent 10 years at Jaguar as a paid union wrecker.
Now he’s doing the same to our Armed Forces as he pretends to ‘bustagut’.
Well, if they had such left wing credentials they’ve kept quiet about them for the past 12 years! They’ve all behaved like pure blooded tories.
What? Fox hunting, polo matches, croquet, slaughtering pheasants, marrying into money, plastic surgery to implant false chins, that sort of thing?
I oop for a game o’ croquet !
I thought “unprincipled bounder” was a required trait for any politician. Don’t they screen out people with principles during the constituency selection processes?
it’s interesting to note how the Damien Green affair has devalued the true whistleblower from someone taking a personal risk for a higher purpose to being merely another can of baked beans in an unregulated free market.
Cameron and the Guido mob should be ashamed of themselves. Their approach to politics is cheap and corrosive, and never leads anywhere good. It’s why the Tories don’t have my vote and I don’t read that dreg.
Charles you are a complete tit. Low dwelling scum sucker of the worst kind. Do us all a favour….blow yourself up. Have a nice day.
Charles has the same problem as his lying, aphasic leader. Every time he sends in a post he loses Nuliebour another couple of hundred votes, just as Cyclops loses tens of thousands of votes each time he opens his droning, slack-jawed face. Keep it up, Charlie boy. We need you more than you know! By the way – fuck you and NuLiebour and all who desecrate our once great country in its deluded name.
More bile, more bile, Labour need more bile from dimwitted Conservitudes. All the Conservitude losers gather together and be dismal. People don’t want to be associated with that bitter outlook, they haven’t for years. That’s why the Conservitudes have been locked out for a dozen years. The longest time in history.
A Conservitude attempted makeover of recycled trainers, half baked green issues and baseball caps isn’t going to change that.
Everyone can see that Osborne and Cameron are caught in the headlights, they offer no direction or ideas, simply, they’re not up to the job.
you’re starting to sound desparate
Meanwhile back on Planet Earth………….
“That’s why the Conservitudes have been locked out for a dozen years. The longest time in history”
Another Socialist who believes that the world began with Baroness Thatcher, though I concede that for 5 years before, “the World was without form and Void”.
Ever heard of Walpole?
Boring, Jonty!
Bring yer gain, Jonty.
ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Er… I think you’ve got a leak in your accordion bellows :-)
No fooking wonder – “High Tory” he says for us to discuss – I am a Scotsman and even I know that High Church is a _*church*_ term in England NOT a government/political one…I think the hoon is getting his terms in a twist.
Throw a fooking net over him somebody, I think he’s still pissed from his holiday SHheeeeee!!
Use your trombone to knock hsi hat off willya.
The term “High Tory” has been around for years you ignorant twat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Tories
An Englishman was holidaying in Scotland, and happened on the little town of Troon. While wandering about, he entered a shop, and saw a magnificent set of bagpipes which he decided to buy as a souvenir. He haggled long and hard with the shop-keeper, and eventually agreed a price much lower than the one on the price-tag. He reached into his pocket, and drawing out his wallet, he started to peel back the velcro strap that held it closed.
“Ach, now, whid ye look at tha’!” said the shop-keeper, “A real Scots purse! It screams when ye open it!”
“I am a Scotsman” But are you a true son of the manse?, If you don’t know the secret handshake I fear you will be shovelled onto the shit pile along with the rest of us.
Contessa,
You are forgiven, pompous, pretentious and boring are the adjectives I reserve exclusively for CEH. Please don’t tar me with the same brush!
146 – Sorry about that – I thought all tories were as low as cat’s shite – high tory is – like you – an oxymoron (please dont quote me wikipedia ya bampot).
OFFICIAL
Ergo all Socialists are lower than whales’ shit in the Mariana Trench
That’s not that low really depending on where you set your baseline. Nope – I insist upon it – tories are godless self-serving hyporcrites and that is about as low as you can get.
5pedo
What a pity you have such contempt of a very large proportion of the people of Great Britain. According to the opinion polls some 40% of whom will vote Tory.
Why not be more charitable to your fellow men – even if you do not agree with them.
I would call that pompous rubbish.
Sungei – let me bring you in on a little known secret – opinion polls are part of the enertainment industry – not to be taken seriously ESPECIALLY YouGov – which is a JOKE!!!
Dont let him bother ya Contessa – I tguess it’s a made-up name anyway.
My dear fellow:
There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all argument, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance – That principle is contempt prior to investigation
– Herbert Spencer
SPAD0 – Congratulations. You are that man!
Contessa:
I am hurt, I thought, though we disagreed about things, we were being civil to each other.
SP, sorry if you think I wasn’t civil, but you do have a tendency to get overly pompous (one of your own favourite words) when you write about Mrs. T. I dislike partiality in politics, all politicians are suspect, By the very nature of being politicians.
Contessa,
You are forgiven, pompous, pretentious and boring are the adjectives I reserve exclusively for CEH. Please don’t tar me with the same brush!
Sorry for the duplication the earlier posting ended up in the wrong place.
Hello.
We got acquainted with you on a site familiar, and to me were so pleasantly with you to get acquainted. But I would like to study you more.
And I have recollected, that you gave me the electronic address, and I have decided to write to you.
I do not remember exact your address, but I very much hope that it you. And I shall write to you below about me, that you could recollect me.
Some words about me. My real name – Charles friends name me Charlie
My age 28. I have been given birth August, 27-th, 1981, my sign on the zodiac – Deva, mine growth – 176 sm, weight – 156 kg. I have blond hair and brown eyes.
Friends speak, that I am the attractive, optimistic, kind and sensitive person. I love theatre, a museum, I like to be engaged in aerobics and I visit sports a hall, but work borrows a lot of my time.
At leisure I like to read books, to look cinema and to prepare. O! Yes, I prepare very well, and I like to try new dishes.
I search for true love , my best friend and the soul mate. I want to meet the reliable and responsible person who will be the special person for me. I only need in one special person and I have no any interest in others.
I put a photo, what you knew my person, please tell to me that you think of my photo – well? Also I want to ask, that you have sent me some your photos!
I am very open also me easily to learn, so please ask me something.
Please tell to me more about you, and send to me your picture.
I wait your message,
your Charlie E Hardwidge !
As a matter of interest, just why is it that you don’t fuck off?
Just asking…
twit
Twat.
twaddle
here hen – Ah’m mairrit
She must be deaf, poor lass…..
nope just blind – like your old lady must have been.
Eng. Speedo has replied to A sweet young girl, who responded to CEH’s post, as if SS and CEH are the same person. Perhaps your theory is correct.
and yoiur “explanation” to nell about IP addresses was shite as well Adrian
That’s the imposter Charles, not the real one. Just as nauseating though!
Just as single. Like Master Baits.
Jeez, just let it go.
Osborne and Cameron clearly want what Gordon’s got. They ache for his power, prestige, and influence. Behind the lurid rhetoric they’re insanely jealous and, from time to time, throw a little temper tantrum because they can’t get what they want. Of course, the big secret they’ll never admit to is they’re Gordon Brown’s biggest fanbois.
Be still, grasshopper.
They want schizophrenia?
Or a Jonah curse?
What, get taken roughly from behind by that shirtlifting qango obsessed our money pissing up the wall thieving mendacious grasping lying diseased cahnt Mandy?
I’ve only bloody gone and done it again haven’t I. I am so eager to pump out my rubbish propaganda and when I rush it comes out all wrong.
Here is the correct version of the above post.
Sorry:
Jeez, I just let a really big smelly one go. Can you smell it?
Osborne and Cameron clearly want Gordon’s cock. They ache for his powerful member, its prestige, and sperm. Behind the lurid rhetoric they’re insanely randy and, from time to time, throw a little temper tantrum because they can’t get rim Gordon’s arsehole because nick robinson’s tongue gets in the way . Of course, the big secret they’ll never admit to is Gordon Brown is not gay. (Ed:areyou sure about this bit?)
Bees kill, grans shop, er may I go? Please?
Boring, boring, Jonty!
Is this a fucking dating site now!!
never trust a half-breed.
What, someone who’s half English, half American, like, err…
Or someone who’s half scottish and half idiot? or maybe all of both.
Oh I get it. Half-breed = scots idiot!
The gas filled penny finally drops *du*
The word is “dubh”, or “ddu” if you’re Welsh.
I love the way Welsh people speak – put me down for the Welsh version.
Och I.
R U Welsh – my uncle married a Welsh lady and her voice was so sexy – I was Sooo jealous (but just a young boy) (oh, if I had half a chance) :-)
Or Doh if you are Homer Simpson!
An independent inquiry into the Iraq war will be held in private, Prime Minister Gordon Brown has told MPs.
What have you to hide Gordon?
let me help you!
1/ Nulab went to war on a lie = FACT
2/ British Troops killed Innocent Women and Children = FACT
3/ British Milatary underfunded, unprepared and underarmed and the laughing stock of US Forces- FACT
4/ Not a single MP’s has been wounded, killed or widowed =FACT
Spin that fucker Gordon you utter Hoon!
Yes, spin that Gordon you utter C.U.N.T.
US forces are the laughing stock of British forces.
Fact
I served in the Army – that was a fact 10 years ago –
But since then the Americans have got so much better – they have the kit too.
And now they can look us in the eye; mainly because we just got ourselves our very own Vietnam
How so? We are Known as”the Borrowers” by the yanks because they have to give Us ammo ,food and even boots ,as ours melt in the heat !Take Helicopters They have one for every 33 troops we have one for every 400 they want for nothing. We are left wanting ! Granted our troops are far superior to the yanks but i dont see the joke ?
Take remote controlled devices to detect and defuse IED’s -used routinely by the Yanks.
We don’t have them we use our men!!
This will of course be a Labour fact.
Prove it. For once back up your assertions.
Where did this fact come from? Do tell.
I say British troops envy the quality of kit and the level of support the Yanks give their guys. Fact.
Sensors indicate it’s a quim, Jim.
I’m having that one…duly passed on as quote of the day :-)
Dya think the Bliars might volunteer their sons to do a tour in Helmand now that our lads are all fully equipped ?????
are gays allowed in HM Forces?
Only if they ask
not in the front – just the rear
The Prime Minister is right to shrug off Osborne and Cameron and yawn with disinterest. They’re just a pair of high status trolls who bragged and swaggered their way to the top. They have nothing useful to say and their popularity is just made up of the wrong sort of attention. Carrying on like that will just buy them another ratings drop.
Would that they were as popular as our Dear Leader Brown.
I have a confession to make my real name is Charles E Halfwit.
But you’re not as boring as Jonty.
Damn and blast! I just posted a propaganda comment that wasn’t finished.
Here is the correct version. My sincere apologies for being such a cock:
The Prime Minister is wrong to wank off Osborne and Cameron and rim their arseholes by handing them the next general election. Gordon Brown is just a high status nappy wearing troll who bragged and swaggered his way to the top. He has nothing useful to say and his complete lack popularity is due to the fact that he is a total cripple. If the Labour Party continues carrying Brown’s dead weight it will just buy them another ratings drop.
But Charles,he has done just the opposite and sought to smear them at every turn. Explain please why the Tory candidate’s sexulaity was a key campaign topic during the Norwich North by-election?
I thought equality was a central plank of your policy? Who is the nasty party now?
Be fair. A Few Tory MP’s did their best to get killed. The Lefties had more important things to do than put themselves in harms’ way over Labour’s War.
I have some understanding of regulation and markets, and people and cultures. Also, I’ve taken a leading position on this for over the past year which folks can check if they want to waste some time. So, policy and popular understanding is really just shifting behind where I was from the get-go. Help yourself to the biscuit barrel.
Let go, dear. It’s easier if you don’t struggle.
“policy and popular understanding is really just shifting behind where I was from the get-go”
Sir, you are Walter Mitty.
No I do believe he’s a mint humbug on legs called TWatson.
“Let go, dear. It’s easier if you don’t struggle” said the rapist Charles E Hardwidge.
But sadly not enough understanding. Stop being pompous.You know fuck all and every utterance confirms how threadbare your knowledge is.
I am truly amazed at how far ahead of the game you are on this issue,yet you seem not to have gone public on the subject years ago to give us this insight.
Or perhaps you have but your fragile acquintance with plain English has prevented anyone understaning.
CAN WE HAVE A NEW SUBJECT PLEASE
They’re called citizens now.
No they’re not. They’re still subjects of the Crown.
Yes. The new subject is….SCOTSMAN JOKES!
Gordon Brown
That’s the idea.
Alastair Darling
I ken whit ye mean, but ma Mary’s too wee.
Yer Mary, I dinnae ken whit yer oan aboot ya slag…is it a euphemism for your genitalia perhaps?
The Scots are a defeated race.
They work for us now.
Go pull me another – not me leg this time ostler
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Incompetence and lies = New Labour
Incompetent free market ideologues = Conservatives
Monumental economic mismanagement = Nu Labour
Funded by thieving financial spivs = Conservatives
Damian McPoison = NuLab
Andy Coulson = Conservatives
Alisair Cambell = NuLieBore (45 minutes department)
How so? When they left office they left us in a strong financial position.
After 12 years of Labour – what happened to the surplus the tories left behind ? – Labour went on a pointless spending spree trying to buy votes by creating a vast underclass with easy generous benefits and then creating a public sector monster with largely worthless jobs , so that in some towns more than 60% of the working population is employed by the government doing sod all.
What happened to the gold reserve- oh yes gordon sold it off at a bargain price. Why?
Everything that gordon has touched as chancellor and pm since Labour has come to power has turned to dross. King Midas in reverse.
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Labour reduced the deficit, before the finanical ‘free’ markets went berserk on magic beans, beginning in America, which created a global recession.
It was those Big Boys from America, sir. They came over here, did lots and lots of wicked things, paid loads of taxes, beat up the FSA and then, sir, they ran away. It all started in America,sir. Honest.
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
‘Labour reduced the deficit ‘ was that the one gordon created in the first place?
And how did he reduce it ? was that by selling off those gold reserves at rock bottom price?
Sound financial sense our gordon! I wouldn’t trust him with a five year old’s pocket money!!
So who got the country into monumental debt? Couldn’t be the man who has been chancellor for a decade and PM for two years. So who was it?
Bush or Margaret Thatcher?
117 i wouldn’t trust MANDELSON IN A TEN YEAR OLDS POCKET
Nell,
Perfectly said.
FFS, the next thing you know, Ambrose Silky bollocks will be back.
Stuck Record =The Inquisiton (sic)
Incompetence, incontinence, lies, top paddock issues, continuing to dig. – JG Brown.
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
New Stasi = New Labour
I think History will be the judge of that
Francis Maude = Conservatives
Inky, will you rim my sweet ass?
Mandelslime = NuLieBore
Post neo-classical endogenous growth theory falsified = Gordons economic depression.
I dub thee rent a quote. Lord of the cut and paste. Thank you for the message of the day from our glorious leader. Here’s one from this blog.
You are wasting your time here- fuck off.
Jeez, just let it go.
The Tories are the party that destroyed business, healthcare, and created ghettos of drug fueled crime. That’s been turned around to a large degree by Labour but there’s no wiggle room this time around. The Tories aren’t here to help anyone just take off people what they’ve got. If you weren’t as stuck in the past as them you’d see it.
Vote Labour! :-)
I’d rather vote for Christmas
Labour is the part of the past. Only 10 months to go and they can kiss their fat arses goodbye.
Dont bank on it i still recon it’s a hung parliament !
We’re going to vote with my feet and leave the UK. After six redundancies (3 for me and 3 for my spouse) we’ve had enough of struggling to stay at the same level.
It’s easy for people to say that the Conservatives destroyed everything and I don’t believe that everything they did was for the best. However, I do believe that our standard of living has vastly decreased under Labour’s government and everything we’ve worked hard for is just evaporating before our eyes.
Best we get out now.
and it’s going to get worse! Now we actually have to pay the interest out of income rather than just increase the debt.
New Labour, New Debt.
When the revolution comes and we start stringing these fuckers up from lamp posts We will hunt you down and string you up with your Pond life Pay masters You Tit
Boring!
Hi guys, me again! Sorry to block up the thread so much but I am on a pay per post deal.
I made a few mistakes in that last post which I would like to correct:
Jeez, I just let one go.
New Labour are the party that destroyed business, had thousands of patients die during and after having had nationalhealthcare, and created ghettos of drug fuelled crime. Not satisfied with the damage we have done we wish to accelerate the New Labour programme but there’s no wiggle room this time around. We aren’t here to help anyone we are here to just take off people what they’ve got. If you weren’t so stupid and unmodern and stuck in the past as you are then you’d see it. You fucking workdrone mugs will keep me in the luxury to which I have become accustomed.
Vote Labour! :-)
WEEERRK-K-KK! MINDYERBACKS! (twhistle)
You really are a fucking moron aren’t you Charles – the Tories didn’t create drug fueled ghettos – the pond life who live in them did.
Keep taking the medication, in fact, go one better – up it to life threatening levels.
I have a view of policy, enforcement,and competence that’s pretty neutral. The system isn’t perfect and some people can and have abused their position and need to be held accountable whether you’re talking about officialdom, politicians and, yes, the media as well.
You see, 99 percent of this discussion is just chewing over trivialities and gossip. It’s empty posturing and never gets to the heart of the matter, and that gets boring. It certainly never solves anything. There’s a lot of room for improvement and that takes more than petty dogwhistle politics.
Be still, grasshopper.
’some people have abused their position’ ? = jacqui, the carrot topped one-edblls,moran,malik,baronessu………………………………. and on and on
‘chewing over trivialities and gossip’? = Twatson, damian, draper, cwhelan, blls – the real black heart of labour.
‘empty posturing’ = mandy
‘never gets to the heart of the matter;’ = gordon who can’t answer any question honestly
‘petty dogwhistle politics’ = Labour.
CEH,
You have the nerve to mention the word boring. Your repetitive posts are not only the most boring things on the web but are pompous and pretentious with it.
Wank wank wank wank wank, Charles
Yes it is true, I am an American.
I suppose I better fuck off now I’ve been rumbled.
Fawkes, wheatcroft’s broadside, is about as relevant and accurate , as one of that old scrubber pollys’ hyms in praise of her scrote of the moment – blai r/ brown / millimong / postie pat .
Cameron is an intelligent guy, with a number of sensible advisors. He cannot fail to do less damage to the country than these deluded fuckwits and their sixth form multiple choice socialism.
Cameron is unproven at the moment in the same way that Thatcher was unproven in 1979, and Bliar was in 1997. Thatcher went on to act in the best interests of the country; Bliar acted in the best interests of Bliar and Nulab. Cameron has indicated some understanding of the country’s financial woes and the necessary action to address them; he remains rather shaky on the EU, but still remains a far better prospect than more Brown.
Arguements about High Tory vs Low Tory are rather immaterial at the moment; almost any Tory would be better at present than NuLiebore.
Cameron is a trougher just like the rest It’s alright for him to say Oh i made an error and pay it back. Yet trying to score Brownie Points off everyone else He should step down ASAP and lets get Hague back at the helm !
They’re all crap. You couldn’t get a fag paper between the lot of them,
Engineer.
Agreed, we can only judge Cameron after he has been in power for at least three years. He has a very strong team including William Hague and I predict his government will have the same impact for the good of the Country as that of Margaret Thatcher’s.
I hope so – because this decaying labour plague have brought us nothing but backstabbing and disaster.
I think we have to give dave a chance. He has some strong points in his team, not least himself – yes he’s young but he has run rings around gordon.
Long may it continue.
But he is still a self confessed trougher !
Dear All
I am not a fan of the Tory rabble.
George Osborne stinks to high heaven as a wee shit.
His ‘master’ Cameron looks like a regional manager for a double glazing company.
A pair of Pricks in my opinion.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Your opinion is worth less than a Jockoe’s IOU
George You Queer you really must stop smelling men it’s a real bad habit And could get you arrested Then you would really have to use your” Uman Rites”
George
since Labour are in theory the main opposition to the SNP, I can only conclude your constant obsession with Osborne is that your are his love child and hence your first name.
Dear resurgemus
Aside from the sporting aspect on here, Osborne is a deadbeat.
You know it and I assume that Cameron knows it.
That makes three in the country, give it time and the rest will climb on board with this concept.
Osborne is damaged goods!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
ps I know me having a pop upsets Tories on here
George
the Osborne angle doesn’t actually upset anyone – except to give MB the chance to do his George Osborne impersonation.
The bit I don’t get is how this helps the SNP. It only starts anti- scottish comments , but as I have said before, it’s Salmond’s policy to encourage as much bad blood as possible and worry about the fallout afterwards.
dear george,
“I know me having a pop upsets Tories here”
oh dear george. being attacked by you must feel rather like being slapped by a geriatrics flaccid penis.
it is all rather sad really, isn’t it? stick the kettle on george and have a nice cup of tea and some biscuits and you will feel better in no time at all.
seeya.
SKRAARK! BALDIE!
It’s no fair – all the tory troughers have names ah canny spell…Djangoleze or sumthin’ :-((
This trivial and bickering race to the bottom of parliamentary politics just tunes me out just like the hyperbole and people posting just to make personal attacks from behind the wall of internet anonymity.
It’s a fact of ghetto politics that driving success is hard because the environment is “sticky”. People can be jealous or fear change. Sometimes, you just have to go for it and leave the dreg behind. Sad, but true.
You, sir, are a Hoon.
A complete Cucking Funt
USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! eh charles?
fuck off c’unt.
The Tories claim they’re the party of opportunity and freedom yet can’t stop talking everyone else down or trying to lock them in a box. All they do is whine and point the finger of blame. Where’s the ambition? Where’s the cooperation? There isn’t any because they blow it for short-term party gain – every time.
Jeez, just let it go.
Dont you ever take a holiday
Instead of contributing to a fund to prosecute Jackboots Smith, could’nt somebody organise a whip round to hire a hit man, to go after Charles and swimming trunks boy?
I believe in Scotland its called the “Malkie”.
Just set up a paypal account, and I will contribute.
A Glasgow kiss?
We actually did quite well under the Tories. We worked hard and we had the opportunity to buy our own house, which we chose to do. Unfortunately, things have a habit of deteriorating and governments don’t always do what they say they’re going to do.
We’re both in our late 40’s early 50’s and fed up with our lives here. We want to be able to live our lives without having to get on the treadmill every day and working harder and harder every year just to stay on level pegging. We have no private pensions now, although we paid a lot of money into them. All we have is a basic state pension now – like a lot of people here.
People who are lucky enough to have job security have absolutely no idea what being made redundant feels like. Gordon Brown keeps telling us that jobs are available but we’ve seen no evidence of that – and it’s not for the want of trying.
If University leavers cannot get jobs, what is the point? We have put our house up for rent and hope someone will like it enough to want to live in it.
There is another life out there, and it’s not in Britain.
Good luck to you both.
Send us all a postcard from wherever you decide to go – you could be founding a new colony of expats. We might end up naming streets and municipal gardens in your honour.
‘opportunity and freedom’ = become a Labour MP – you can even claim expenses for your bathplug.
‘whine and point the finger of blame’ = gordon – don’t blame me , blame America’
‘where’s the ambition?’ = mandy and harriett
‘where’s the co-operation?’ = damian, Twatson,cwhelan and draper
’short term party gain’ = gordon’s scorched earth policy
we are not interested in CIA stooges like you here charles.
fuck off you warmongering c’unt.
haven’t they got any work for you to do in Afghanistan you useless fucking wanker?
too scared eh charles.
you spineless coward.
fuck off.
no refund.
I’m generally pleased with Labour’s shift in focus towards quality and kindness. The Tories and their media pals could be headlining that instead of bigging themselves up while talking everyone else into a depression.
It’s the same with game development. Features and content get added, modified, and chopped all the time. Nothing is final until it’s final. It’s also possible to show the media stuff before it hits the public domain so they’re prepped before release. This sort of thing happens all the time.
Charles, why do you continually start new threads?
Didn’t anyone tell you that conversations are much better than monologues? Finish what you start and stop littering this place with nonsense.
Peace out, dude.
CEH continually starts new threads because
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Dearest creature in creation
Study English pronunciation;
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse – and worse;
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy;
Just compare heart, beard and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word.
Sword and sward, retain and Britain,
(Mind the latter how it’s written)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as vague and ague.
But be careful how you speak,
Say break, steak, bleak and streak,
Cloven, cover; how and low,
Script, receipt, shoe, poem, toe.
Friend and fiend; alive and live,
Liberty, library; heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache; moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed but not allowed,
People, leopard; towed but vowed,
Mark the difference morevover
Between mover, plover, Dover;
Leeches, breeches; wise, precise,
Chaliced but police and lice.
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label,
Penal, petal and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal;
Worm and storm; chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Ivy, privy; famous, clamour;
And enamour rhymes with hammer;
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Ear but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with hear and ere;
Seven is right but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephen, Stephen;
Monkey, donkey, clerk and kerk,
Asp, grasp, wasp and worm and work.
Doctrine, turpentine, marine;
Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion with battalion;
Sally with ally; yea, ye,
Eye, I, Ay, aye, whey, key, quay.
Pronunciation – think of Psyche –
Is a paling stout and spiky?
One may well say our tongue is tough –
My advice is: Give it up…
Stranger does not rhyme is anger;
Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, german, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.
Billet does not sound like ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward and reward.
Your pronunciation is O.K.
When you correctly say croquet.
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sleeve,
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific
Science, conscience, scientific.
Tour, but our and succour, four,
Gas and alas and Arkansas…
Sea, idea, guinea, area,
Psalm, Maria but malaria;
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean,
Soul but foul, and gaunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand and grant;
Shoes, goes, does; now first say finger,
And then singer, ginger, linger,
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, age.
Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth,
Job, Job, bosun, oath;
Though the difference seems little,
We say actual but victual;
Refer does not rhyme with deafer,
Zephyr does and so does heifer.
Pull, dull and George, ate late,
Mint, pint, senate and sedate.
interesting !
why?
The English language is truly versatile!
‘Labour’s shift towards kindness’ = ourt case to reduce disability payments to injured servicemen.
Don’t forget me!
Gordon Brown has a black belt in leadership. Osborne and Cameron don’t, and it shows badly. It’s why Gordon is leading the charge around the world and the Tories have boxed themselves in as day players. Yeah, some mouths around here like to spin it differently but you can’t buck reality.
Be still, grasshopper.
What will you be doing in 10 months time pal when you’ve failed?
I can’t be still – I’m ROFL.
A Blackbelt in leadership ? add zen master in dithering
A green belt in nosemining, possibly.
Gordon Brown – the only man to have survived charisma bypass surgery.
An Oscar in onanism.
‘gordon leading the charge around the world’ =
2007 –
cost of gordon’s trip to G8 summit -£500,000 plus
cost of gordon’s trip to the Olympics – £500,000 plus
2008
total cost of gordon’s trips – £4.7million
cost of 1 trip – 4 country jaunt in south america involving 27 staff – £743,341.
Why is gordon charging around the world anyway?
Gordon Brown has a black belt in being a fucking JONAH! Osborne and Cameron look normal and it shows badly. It’s why Gordon is putting those fucking stupid videos of him trying to look normal but just acting plain weird around the world on youtube and the Tories have just stood back and watched Gordon make a complete c’unt of himself. Yeah, some mouths around here like to spin it differently but you can’t buck reality.
Be still, grass is proper.
When you find out that I am American everything starts to make sense doesn’t it?
What is a ‘black belt in leadership’ slow witted one?
What charge is Gordon leading precisely? Other than one of incompetence
_+_+_+_+_ You’ve got this one wrong Guido _+_+_+__+_+_+_+
Cameron isn’t playing on a level field. Unfortunately previous Tory leaders fought elections in an honest and open way and were trampled by the Liebour bullshit machine.
I couldn’t give a flying fuck if Cameron tells a pack of lies to get in, the fact is that the current shower can’t stop telling lies or buggering everything up and as such it will be no worse.
Cameron may have to make concessions to get into power, but only because the current lot can’t play straight and their clan-like followers who are either too stupid to realise or have nothing to lose will vote for them no matter what.
There`s no evidence to suggest that Cameron is playing a clever game. On the basis of the paramountcy of values over belief, he simply does not have Tory values. And there is no evidence of belief in anything.
Policy, enforcement and standards of competence are neutral. The Tories are just taking trivialities and screaming fire in a packed cinema.
Cameron’s just rigid minded and petty, and the fact he has no policy focus is typical of someone like that. In the real world he’d never get promoted out of the post room. I know, I’ve met people like that.
Be still, grasshopper.
Dear [their name],
By now, you must realize that I am gone, and that I am not coming back.
Don’t feel responsible-it’s not you, it’s me. My [ busy career / expensive drug habit / intense racquetball schedule / fascination with on-line pornography ] prevents me from committing to a serious relationship.
Besides, you deserve better. You deserve someone who appreciates all of your most special qualities, especially the cute way you [leave your toenail clippings on the couch / sing along when you don't know the lyrics / feign naivete when I suggest you do laundry / scarf down two pints of Ben & Jerry's while watching Ally McBeal reruns ].
Even though we’re no longer together, we’ll always have our memories. I’ll never forget the time you [ asked me to pull your finger / made me lie about my religion to your parents / brought home a bucket of KFC on my birthday ]!
They say that time heals all wounds, and I hope that soon you will be able to [ love again / like again / speak my name without sobbing / speak coherently to another person of the opposite gender ]. When this time comes, I hope that we will be [ good friends / fake phony superficial friends / in different states / as far apart as humanly possible ].
Love Always, / Love, / Warm regards, / Fondly, / Adios,
I’ve got an awful feeling that Charles Edwina Hardwidge will still be on here spouting his bollocky nonsense even after the Tories have got in, mainly ‘cos he’s just nuts.
Along with his cohort gu1d0 – that’s why there is a very sllightly ant-cameron topic today – I fear your gonna be disappointed Gu1d0 coz it will be
Labourt in power for FOUR MORE YEARS, OUR MORE YEARS, FOUR MORE YEARS, FOUR MORE YEARS, FOUR MORE YEARS, FOUR MORE YEARS, FOUR MORE YEARS, FOUR MORE YEARS, FOUR MORE YEARS,
I’ll book my tickets now then for the flight out, one way and into the Priory for all those who voted for them because they will certified insane.
You missed the F of the second Four more years….. (yawn) – you should use copy and paste. Actually the Conservatives will be elected for 5 years rather than 4.
Have refrained from pointing out the other typos. Sorry to be a bit bossy, but I am an older lady and am very experienced in typos (my own mainly).
All the best!
all the best what Granny B ??
WILL THE LAST ENGLISH MAN TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY PLEASE TURN THE LIGHTS OFF ?
All the best of everything you wish yourself, Speedo. Will that do?
Because Gordon Brown does not have the guts to do what everyone wants and call an election now, the current wholly incompetent Liebore government has nearly a year to run before it is forced to call an election.
You are saying that Liebore will be in power for four more years. This means that in the unlikely event that they win the general election next year they will only serve a three year term. I can understand this. Because of the dreadful mountain of debt they will bequeath to whoever forms the next government and their inept approach to running the country, they could not serve for anything like the full five years that Gordon Brown is currently imposing on the British people.
There would certainly be total meltdown within three years.
’screaming fire in a packed cinema’ = gordon stoking panic over swine flu.
‘rigid minded and petty’ = gordon over the Gurkha fiasco
‘no policy focus’ = gordon’s policy of spend,spend, spend
Only me!
Here they are, the corrections to my previous post. Enjoy!
Labour’s Policy, enforcement and standards of competence are all a load of shit. New Labour war party members are just taking trivialities and screaming fire in a packed cinema.
Godon Brown is just rigid minded and petty, and the fact he has no policy focus is typical of someone like that. In the real world he’d never get promoted out of the post room. I know, I am also that type of person, a failure.
I couldn’t even manage to hang myself without fucking it up.
The rope was too long. I’m such an idiot, aren’t I.
As a practising Psychologist, I have become very interested in many of the things written here. I have a good friend and colleague whose experience in ’sectioning’ people, and having them, often, remitted to one of our best-known – and most-secure – hospitals for our speciality, to whom, I have shewn some of the evidence here. He picked up much more quickly than I, the odd obsession with “enforcement”, and also the correlative injunction to others to ‘be still’, not to struggle – since resistance is not merely vain, but counter-productive.
Like me, he concludes that the subject is not only a danger to himself but, more significantly, a danger to others, displaying worrying traits of Psychopathy, of Messiah-complex, and of being alarmingly delusional
My friend (Dr. Gestalt-Vogel) and I will work relentlessly to ensure that this dangerous person (did we mention multiple-personalties?) is contained, and treated…
It goes, almost without saying that, in this, as in many such sad – indeed, tragic – cases WE ARE ALL GUILTY!
Offtopic, but good to see the Rugby World Cup awarded to England for 2015.
We’ve come 1st and 2nd in the last two RWCs, so fingers crossed for another big event after the Olympics!
Steve, that’s OK, but us Brits who actually live here couldn’t give a 4X.
He likes to see men playing with bent balls
Ooooh, a man after my own heart…..
( Is he Brazilian ? )
Dunno – but I am sure he will sniff you out before long
speak for yourself.
Test starting Thursday at Edgebaston.
Can we win again?
Let’s hope so nell!
It will be a draw thanks to the bloody weather.
Only if gordon wishes it luck – but hopefuly he’ll be up a scottish mountain in suit, tie and lace-up shoes teaching his children about the philosophy of lying.
Beauty and the Beast
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8172967.stm
If nothing else, this story has good potential comedy value, as I’m sure it’ll have our much celebrated (in his own mind) Jonty “I’m poor me – me mam and dad had me working at coalface from t’age of 3, workers of the world unite etc etc” Pryor (note, this is a lie, he grew up in a leafy suburb and has a very comfortable life and the support of moderately wealthy mummy and daddy, regardless of how desperate to prove his socialist worker credentials he is) chomping at the bit to make loads of really unfunny classist comments about how everyone that wasn’t born destitute is evil and wants to control all of us.
You know what I’m talking about – inane bullshit by the lorryload that will no doubt have all his little right on student buddies (where did they all come from – I’m sure I don’t remember there being as many useless cretins at uni when I went, and I didn’t even go to a particularly reputable one!) creaming their underwear at his devastating wit, but which to the rest of us will just sound like a load of cock and balls being spouted by an irritating little clown with about as much idea of life in the real world as a fun sized mars bar.
Is there one ‘v’ or two in “Drivel”?
Life can’t have been all roses for wee Jonty. First off, they gave him a poofy name. Second, he is ginger.
Now unless he grew up somewhere nice, like Tunbridge Wells, then he probably got a good kicking everyday at school. Bit like that twat George Laird.
Is this a mispost? wtf are you talking about “Jonty” and “ginger” – (my cat was called ginger) :-\
Kerrist you are fick as well as fookin deaf.
is this negro wrap or what?
It’s conference season for those wishing to impose a Caliphate over Europe.
More people should be devoting more time and more attention to this. It concerns the whole future of Western civilisation. Do the BBC think they would be allowed to pursue a liberal-left multicultural agenda under Islamic control?! I suggest they wake the fuck up.
http://www.workingclasstory.com/
give it 20 years from now and you will see!
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100004840/extremists-call-for-caliphate-in-londonistan/
Everybody come to Scotland – that’s the answer to your problems.
Thank you Mr Murphy we will
I like a man in a kilt.
So do midges.
Mainly in the Glencoe area but even then not in winter for the skiing…Ajahn Brahm loves the place.
I can’t wear a kilt coz my manhood dangles below the hemline (i wear bell bottom jeans instead).
NO cause once we’re all in there, You lot will sneak out into England and Lock the Gate !
:-)
lol
Shouldn’t that be Bellend bottom jeans ?
Speedo: you’re one BIG show off!
If you’ve got it flaunt it – that’s what I say!
What, and become a second-class citizen in a third-class Country?
When Mr Worsthorne “comes over all moral like,” as they say in Bethnal Green, by mentioning (yet again) that he was once taken up the arse by George Melly, I hope that he remembers having been taken up the arse and having loved it as he moralises.
HOON
Sorry, everyone.
I have to keep starting new threads because I cannot engage in conversation and debate with anyone whatsoever.
And, I like the sound of my own voice.
Charles, you are one really boring bastard.
No,correction,you bore enough for two boring bastards.
Therfore you are TWO boring bastards.
Doh, I’m going to have to start another thread now.
Peace out, young sparrow.
I am a loud mouthed American.
I shouldn’t really be involved in British politics, a bit underhand isn’t it?
A bit CIA really.
How can these hard faced fucking scum government go to the court of appeal to get soliders compensation reduced ? We are only looking at about £30,000 each about a quater of the average Bogus expense claim by these bone idle fucking useless waste of space cowards. They only want to pay for the initial injury not for any future complications ! So thats confirmed then LIE-BORE think that if you get your legs blown off , It’s only a matter of time before they grow back ! Do This Fucking scum have no Shame .
Perhaps it would be an idea to pour bile on the Conservitudes, which party condones.
Or have the Conservitudes made more unfunded promises?
Trying to argue numbers on behalf of a government which can’t do basic arithmetic is very Blairite.
Unfinded? Try public sector pensions. There’s a classic example!
NuLab’s trillions of pounds worth of public debt…. funded?
No shame. No compassion. That Court case says everything there is to say about this disgusting failed government.
Perhaps it would be an idea to pour bile on the Conservitudes, as they condone the same policy.
Or have the Conservitudes made more unfunded promises?
MB, source please for your unfounded comments about the Tories wanting to reduce compensation to injured soldiers…
Anyone from Liebour who mentions unfunded promises should get their own house in order before having a go at others – officially the country will be unfunded by 348 BILLION quid between April ‘09 and March ‘11
It’s true that the conservatives supported the war v Iraq.
The Hoon only has one source – Wikipedia.
The winners in this case will as always be the lawers What does a Q>C Get these days ? £5/£10,000 Per day ? Barristers £,3,000 per day? By the end of this case It will have cost MORE than these two boys were entitled too ! HOW FUCKING SAD ! AGAIN IT’S OUR MONEY! How any one of this SCUM government can even think of asking people to vote for them or Even show their Fat troughing faces in public is far beyond me ! May they all have Long,Slow Painfull Deaths ! Vermin to a Man !
That’s not legal aid rates, that’s for sure….
Eric Joyce is a cnut, Eric Joyce is a cnut, Eric Joyce is a cnut. With his expenses claims he could have paid a substantial part of the money himself towards the money these poor soldiers are due from the MoD.
Give them the money the Ginger Minger offered to pay back and the £25,000. that Eleanor Laing is promising to pay back.
From the desk of Mr Charles E Hardwidge
Dear Friend,
I am Mr. Charles E Hardwidgi, I work in the Accounts/ Operations Department of a Prime banks here in Abidjan Cote D’Ivoire. I actually have an urgent and very confidential business proposal for you. I got your contact from Internet and decided to contact you immediately.
On January 10th 1994, An American Oil Consultant/ Contractor with the Societe Ivoirienne De Raffinage (SIR), Mr. George Norman Wesley, made a number time (fixed) deposits valued at US$8,750,000 (Eight Million, Seven Hundred & Fifty Thousand United States Dollars). On investigation, it was discovered that Mr. Wesley died along with his family in a plane crash. On further investigation, I discovered that Mr. George Norman Wesley did not leave a WILL and all attempts to trace his Next of Kin proved abortive. I therefore made further investigation and discovered that Mr. Wesley did not declare any Next of Kin in all his official documents, including his Bank Deposit paper work. This sum of US$8,750,000 is still floating in the Bank and the interest is being rolled over with the principal sum at the end of each year. For the past 5 to 6 years now, no one has ever come forward to claim the fund.
According to the Ivoireinne Laws, at the expiration of 7 (seven) years, the money will revert to the ownership of the Ivoireinne Government if nobody applies to claim the funds. That is what gave way to this deal.
Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as a foreigner to stand in as the Next of Kin to Mr. George Norman Wesley so that the fruits of this old man’s labour will not get into the hands of some government officials.
To facilitate the transaction therefore:
1. I would like you to provide me with a viable account details where this fund could be safely transferred into as Next of Kin of the former depositor.
2. We do not anticipate any risk/problem whatsoever, as all the loopholes has been taken care of and there is no risk involved in this deal. All the Computer work for this transaction will be done by me, including your name as the new Beneficiary of this fund.
You will be entitled to 30% of the total amount as your commission after the transaction. If you are interested and capableof handling this deal, please write. On receipt of your response, I shall then provide you with more details on how to go about it.
Please note that this is very confidential. And as I am still a staff with the bank here. I would not like to be known or mentioned as having knowledge of the deal but I will be giving you inside information on what to do.
Awaiting your urgent reply. Do not forget to include your direct telephone and fax numbers for further communication.
Faithfully Yours,
Mr. Charles E Hardwide
Oh yes please, that sounds like just the scheme we need for hard working families.
consider me your main agent for Africa
Dear Charles,
You are finally starting to make sense. I’ll have the trilby please, au gratin.
A confusion of names for dear Charles?
According to the Financial Crisis Advisory Group, the crisis started in America.
“These weaknesses reduced the credibility of financial reporting, which in part contributed to the general loss of confidence in the financial system. The weaknesses primarily involved (1) the difficulty of applying fair value (”mark-to- market”) accounting in illiquid markets; (2) the delayed recognition of losses associated with loans, structured credit products, and other financial instruments by banks, insurance companies and other financial institutions; (3) issues surrounding the broad range of off-balance sheet financing structures, especially in the US; and (4) the extraordinary complexity of accounting standards for financial instruments, including multiple approaches to recognizing asset impairment. Some of these weaknesses also highlighted areas in which International Financial Reporting Standards (”IFRS”) and US generally accepted accounting principles (”US GAAP”) diverged.”
Yeah whatever
It started in America.
So did Coca Cola
“It started in America”
…and Brown was complicit from the start.
It started in Basel Switzerland.
It started with financial deregulation, which started in America.
Financial deregulation has been the favourite policy of the Conservitudes and their thieving financial spiv backers.
It started in Wigan.
MB
watch the clock
remember the traffic gets bad after 6 pm
good niiight!
Use the sewer its quicker…
It started with the industrial revolution and early physcology
It started in the Garden of Eden (no doubt young Baiter will tell us that the Serpent’s name was “Thatcher”).
It started with the Big Bang – (when Broon got banged up the arse by the City)
If it started in the Garden of Eden then it would be Mandelson , seems to be getting a god like portfolio together
I have no problem with the credit crunch starting in america. The problem I have is that Gordon, as Chancellor, didn’t see it. He should have.
It really doesn’t matter where it did or did not start. The fact is it’s everywhere now, but almost everywhere else had reserves ready for the recession, which they had saved up during the boom years.
Only the UK and Iceland didn’t do that, the IMF are there already and will be heading this way shortly…
Most of the other developed countries including Germany and Japan have more public debt than the UK.
Japan’s public debt is set to reach 200% of GDP.
Japan’s public debt is bigger than ours ! Ner, ner, ner, ner, ner !!
Japan have been spending billions and billions and billions of Taxpayers’ money because of their deep recession following years of a ‘Bubble Economy’
( sound familiar ? ) which was mostly caused by overvalued property prices in the late 1980s/early 1990s. Despite many years of ‘pump priming’ the economy and billions wasted on ‘Public Works’, all those billions of Taxpayers’ yen have been wasted ( Sound familiar ? ).
As the architect of this country’s own ‘Bubble Economy’, Gormless Brown is solely and wholly accountable. It started in 11 Downing Street.
Japan and Germany can service their debt: that’s the difference. Another: their is being reduced whereas ours increases exponentially. Brown has been malicious and incompetent.
errr well maybe it didn’t start in America – in fact, there’s a good case to be made that it started here. After Glass-Steagall was effectively repealed in ‘99, Brown made a deliberate decision to relax the UK regulatory climate to prevent the financial sector from haemorrhaging. From 2000 to 2005/6 the City was the Wild West – large amounts of seriously dirty money washed through London, and Brown was delighted. It was Brown’s famous light touch regime that enabled AIG to go AWOL here, in London.
i think he did see it , i think he deliberately created casion banks and globalisation together will other NWO nutters
Did someone actually believe that crap ???
the V2 Rockets started in Germany
BUT Ended Up In America ! Fact !
Technically, Peenemunde was in the Nazi-occupied Netherlands. Calling it ‘Germany’ is an insult to the Dutch. Great place for a family holiday now, like the HQ of the European Space Agency which is just down the road. Expect wind.
Agree with AoC. The Dutch had a popular resistance, unlike the French who gave most of theirs up to the Boche.
Since we had the crisis just as badly as the US, Brown must be no more competent than George W Bush.
Q.E.D.
and we are still waiting for the fraudster american bankers to be extradited to this country to be tried for palming off bad loans to British banks. they sold the bundles of loans to our banks because they knew they were bad loans and they wantled to offset not the risk but the losses they were aware they were incurring.
the new labour war party will not deal with either of these issues because so many members of the new labour war and occupation party are being blackmailed by the CIA.
’tis time for a new government, this one is tired, corrupt and under too much influence of the american administration.
Yes. Yes. It was those Big Boys from America, sir. They came over here, did lots and lots of wicked things, beat up the FSA and then, sir, they ran away. It all started in America, sir. Honest.
Yes and I tried to stop them but Gordon told me to shut up because he was getting so much tax from them. Honest, I did.
Sir, it was the nasty boy from Texas that ruined the Tuck Shoppe
I sold all the crisps at 5 pence then allowed the popular boys to write IOU’s on post it note but I was not to blame sir
………..sir, I think I need to go the toilet, I have shit my breeks again
He’s only saying what many in the Party are thinking.
2014 – David ‘call me Dave’ Cameron flies to Tehran for a summit with President Palin and the Tsar of Russia on reconstruction in Iran…..
Not just party members mate,not just Party members.
Funny article , alas still under this wretched goverment as wroy jenkins might say
I suspect Dave has always had the toys and things he wanted.
A job-it’s fixed.
Central office-it’s fixed.
Parliamentary candidate-it’s fixed.
Giving him the Tory party to play with is one thing—giving him and his young friends the British economy to to play with may be a step too far.
Got any better options?
tony- private school education – frivolous youth – state paid university education now denied to our children – real self server- now a proven liar and failed pm
gordon – son of the manse- with a self declared ‘moral compass’ that has been proved not to exist ,an over sized ego – state paid university education now denied to our children – now a proven liar – failed chancellor and failed pm
dave – private school education – a frivolous youth ( I hope none of us have to reveal what we did in our youth) Let’s give him a chance. In truth he can’t perform worse than the last two incumbents of the job.
Fascism is Capitalism in Decay!
Fascism is Socialism with leather boots
Easy now!
Oooer….Dinnae fasch yersel!
Fascism is Government working with corporations in the name of “social justice”.
a social justice is the opposite of justice.
You punish people who have done nothing wrong in order to reward the feckless.
Fascism is what happens after Socialism takes over an economy.
SPOT THE “ISM” DIFFERENCES:
Fascism:- An extreme right wing political system or attitude which is in favour of strong central government and which does not allow any opposition.
Communism:- A political movement that believes in an economic system in which the state controls the means of providing everything on behalf of the people.
Socialism:- A set of political and economic theories based on the belief that everyone has an equal right to a share of a country’s wealth and that the government should own and control the main industries.
And Capitalism?
he forgot that one!
Capitalism:- An economic system in which the country’s businesses and industry are controlled and run for profit by private owners rather than by the government.
What about National Socialism?
eg BNP, socialists who don’t like foreigners
See Fascism above.
… and what most people ‘conveniently’ forget, is that ‘Nazism’ was a short-hand version of National-Socialism, so talk of ‘Right-Wing/Left-wing’ is irrelevant: Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot, Kim-Yung… were/are Socialists, who worked to the theory that ‘Society/the State…’ is of prime importance, individuals merely inert component parts, expendable. Napoleon belongs in that same circle of the Damned: those megalomaniac few who have declared ‘L’etat, c’est moi!’ or ‘I am The People!’
So, just always remember: Hitler was a Socialist; Stalin was a Socialist; Napolean was a Socialist; Oliver Cromwell was a Socialist. They were all (like the BBC) ‘Left-wing’; all Utopians, unable to learn either from their own or others’ experience, that any man-made, state-planned Utopia is/will be Hell on Earth!
Fr. Charles E Hardwidge
Church of the Mighty Flatulence
From: Fr Charles E Hardwidge
Sent: Tuesday 28 July 20098:42 AM
Subject: Bequest inheritance
St Anselm’s Church
89 West Hill
Dart ford
DA1 2HJ
Email:stanselm@priest.com
Website:http://www.rc.net/southwark/dartford/new/parish/team.html
CONTACT DETAILS:
Name: Fr Charles E Hardwidge
Position: The Parish Priest
Address: The Presbytery 89 West Hill Dart ford
Postcode: DA1 2HJ
Email: frscanlan@hotmail.co.uk
Day Time Tel: 020 7925 4433
Dear Beloved,
Greetings from St Anselm’s Church,
On behalf of the Trustees and Executors of the late British Prime Minister,Sir Edward Richard George Heath, KG I once again try to notify you as our letter to you by the lawyer through the post were returned undelivered, hence I hereby attempt to reach you via your e-mail address.
I wish to notify you that the late Sir Edward Heath made you a beneficiary to his (will), he bequeathed the sum of Seven Hundred and Fifty Thousand United States Dollars Only (US$750,000.00), to you in the codicil and last testament to his (will).This may sound very strange and unbelievable to you, but it is real and true. Being a widely popular traveled man, he must have been in contact with you in the past or simply you were nominated to him by one of his numerous friends here or abroad who wished you well.
Sir Edward died in Salisbury , England , July 17, 2005 at the age of (89) years. He served in the Royal Artillery during World War II, rising to the rank of Colonel. He was elected to Parliament as a Conservative in 1950, and held several posts in the party whip’soffice (1951-55),before becoming Government chief whip and parliamentary secretary to the treasury (1955-59), He was Minister of Labour (1959-60) that led the Tory Government as Prime Minister between 1970
and 1974.
The late Sir Edward Heath until death was a real gentle man; a very dedicated Christian who loved to give out, his support to the Church here in England is very fresh in our memories. Quoting former Labour Chancellor Roy Jenkins, a friend of Sir Edward, Mr.Tony Blair added: “He was a great lighthouse which stands there flashing out beams of light, indifferent to the waves which beat against him.
He was also a member of several non-governmental organisations (NGOs), here in UK and beyond, his great Philanthropy earned him numerous awards during his lifetime. According to him this bequest is to support your Christian activities and to help the poor and the less privileged ones in your local community and country.
Please if I reach you as I am hopeful; endeavor to get back to me as soon as possible to enable the lawyer executing the (will), conclude his job, you forward your most current telephone and fax numbers including your mailing address .
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Yours sincerely in the Risen Lord,
Fr. Charles E Hardwidge
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Mass Times
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SUNDAYS 11am
THE PARISH MASS
(Holy Communion)
- our main act of worship.
6.30pm Evening Prayer
(with Benediction on festivals)
Mondays
5.15pm Mass
Tuesdays
5.15pm Mass
Wednesdays
5.15pm Mass
Thursdays
5.15pm Mass
Parish Team Fr. Charles E Hardwidge
Rev. Peter Mandel
Sr. Gordon Braun
sending details and , mogadsishu bank account number
Amen to that,my son
The Lord be praised
OT – A new witch has been appointed to the caves at Wookey Hole in Cheddar Gorge. Candidates from all over the country were interviewed, the winning candidate was – an estate agent from Shepton Mallet.
And she last sold a property when?
Possibly that’s why she needed another job. Apparently, it was her evil cackle that won her the position.
hope she can spell.
And Gets £50,000 Per year to work weekends and Bank holidays ONLY ! WE Paying for That As Well ?
Yep. One of those Local Government non- jobs that gordon’s created. You have to admit it’s imaginative.
I was thinking that it’s a pity damian didn’t know this opening was coming up before he applied for that £30K post in that catholic school. He’d be perfect for this job.
Or Mangledbum: He of the Darkside, He could Fly Round On His BROOOOWN Stick !
A master of the Park Arts.
That job is miiine, all miiiine
The property she lives in has a water feature, called “the roof”.
This is a boring topic – the tories are b-o-r-i-n-g – can you not get back to attacking Labour who are, at least, interesting.
wtf wants to talk about an opposition party? The Bee Enn Pea would make for a better subject.
Hya Nick Griffin – are ya out there – sink wot boats wazzit mate?
50rry t0 h3ar y0u ar3 50 b-0-r-3-d :(
thank you your honour
The new Telegraph blog: http://my.telegraph.co.uk/thomashogg
Raffael
Great Post : Hardwidge ! HardWidge ! Your Grand Daddy Is on the Telegraph website YOU Twat !
I always assumed that George Osborne was the epitomy of a high Tory.
it’s nothing to sniff at
It’s nothing to sniff at
I had an epitomy once: I don’t recommend the procedure to anyone – women grumble about having an epesiotomy, I say, ‘You try an epitomy, Mate!’ Nah, I’d rather have an appendectomy – or a lumpectomy – any day.
Mind you, I never complain about my Lobotomy.
New ComRes poll for the Indy:
Tories 42%
Labour 23%
Lib dems 21%
Interesting, the gap seems to be getting much bigger again!
Surely LD cannot be above 20? WTF have they done for an increase!
They’re not Labour!!
Are we on a coach tour?! :)
Yup. We’ve done the %; now we’re moving onto fine wines, holiday destinations and uncontrolled hard-ons in the workplace.
Dack Blog,
I thought you were a non-geezer
Eh?
Dackers, what he means is that you won’t be having a hard-on unless it belongs to somebody else.
Be good to see them overtake Labour in the polls and for Labour to be third.
That would make my day!
I would not mind the LD overtaking Labour if they were 10 & 11% respectively!
There’s an excellent chance of that, providing we can keep Dastardly Broon at the helm and his sidekick Lord Muttley at his rear; the Nightmare Ticket to Liebore oblivion.
Roll on the GE comrades!
Easy! Like the Tories their NOT LABOUR!
I see the “jocks have just marketed the worlds strongest beer @ a whopping 18% Alc ! make a change from the meths they usually drink then !
16 or over the mandelson game
the truth is ugly
Sky News : Massa is fucked ! He’s re gained consciousness and is talking in three different languages !
It’s driven him pentecostal. Stand back, lad! He’ll be kissing with tongues next.
Every Other News Outlet: Massa is responding well to treatment and could walk out of hospital by the end of next week. He is probably out for the season though, due to the time needed to recover from a frctured skull, and he may have damage to his eye which has yet to be assessed by the medics.
He probably speaks three languages anyway, given that he is a Brazillian working for an Italian team and all the press conferences in F1 are in English!!
No he’s OK it Was my Attempt at humour !
He doesn’t speak a word of fucking Brazilian.
Another Liebour MP quits. :-)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5926061/Howard-Stoate-quits-as-MP-over-limits-on-second-jobs.html
Dr Howard Stoate says he will stand down at the next election becuase of the Liebour witchunt against MPs having second jobs – good on him for deciding that serving in his general medical practice is more important to him than serving as an MP
Good on him for deciding that he’s got no more hours in the day than the rest of us. How can anybody do justice to two full-time jobs. Argghhh!
Wonder if he would have done the same were he not in a marginal seat – he won’t be an MP soon anyway. Hopefully he’s not claiming it’s a point of principle with his expenses record.
The cynic in me notes that GPs can earn £100,000 per annum, against an MPs salary of £64,000 (plus troughing, now slightly curbed). I’m sure this didn’t enter his thinking.
True, but as a Liebour MP in a very marginal seat I’m sure he’d rather make his own plans now, rather than having them forced on him the day after the election!
GPs are worth way more than MPs in my humble opinion, although the MPs did screw up the GPs’ recent large pay rise!
GPs are equivalent to first line support staff in IT. Wholly OVER paid.
We could do with a second line of specialist GP++s to filter stuff up to consultants, and they might be worth the 100K.
Figures for GP pay are very misleading – there are two basic classes of GP nowadays as a result of one of the many triumphs of New Labour – the introduction of the new GP contract.
The real agenda of this policy was to mould General Practice into a business which was ripe for take over by New Labour’s corporate friends/donors. The link between funding for a practice and the numbers of GP partners was broken so that a business with no healthcare expertise per se – Dodgy Healthcare Associates or whatever – could take over and then employ GPs and nurses to do what they did before but cream off a profit from a taxpayer funded service. The carrot dangled in front of the GP’s was being able to give up out of hours work which co-incidentally would make the business much more attractive to Dodgy Healthcare Associates and their ilk as providing 24 hour cover is a real bugger.
So far only a few corporates have taken over practices and the interim position is that GPs who were partners when the new contract came in have mostly been coining it because they are getting the profits which the government intended for their corporate chums (things are getting a bit less rosy now as payments are being cut). These GPs are increasingly employing other GPs (salaried doctors) to do a lot of the clinical work at rates far lower than those received by the partners who are then freed up to do other things including running other businesses. The number of new partnerships available has dwindled to a trickle because, when a partner retires, the remaining ones replace them with a salaried doctor.
Broadly speaking, full time partner GPs get anything from about 100 – 200K. Salaried GPs get about 64K for a full time job although many can’t get a full time contract with one practice.
Gordon has the bloody cheek to claim some sort of triumph for re-negotiating the contract to marginally extend the opening hours of GP surgeries but conveniently forgets that his lot threw away the out of hours cover requirement because they had no concept of how onerous that was and how expensive it would be to provide as a separate service.
Typical of all the meddling and tinkering done by this government with public services. Reform where reform was not necessary, leading to a completely different conclusion to that intended…
The only qualification I would make to the Her Royal Highness the Infanta’s statement is that partner GPs have to contribute a thumping 20% of their income as pension contrubitions, up to a limit, if they want to belong to the NHS scheme.
Point taken Sir William. The other point ,of course, is that GP partner’s have the responsibility of running a business: being employers; fixing the roof etc etc. although the upside of all that is that they can claim all sorts of expenses against tax and some have been able to profit from rising property values in a manner analogous to our Westminster friends.
partners not partner’s
sorry
Isn’t Socialism a wonderful thing! Up to 1948, we had a working health-care system: rather like Vicars, Doctors worked in a given area (though, you could change your Doctor, whereas you couldn’t really change your Vicar), you could take your Prescription to any of a number of ‘Chemists’ (all MPS’s), if you needed an operation, you could go to your Local Hospital, where, if it was a minor one, your own Doctor might perform the op., if it was something more serious, a (local) surgeon would do it. The whole thing worked on the basis of what you could afford: the Squire’s costs would help pay for the costs of the poorest; in between, people would have ‘Friendly Society’ or ‘Insurance’ benefits. Most of it was actually run by the Church of England, or had been set up by, and continued to be run by, people who were members of the Church of England. It worked.
The only criticism they could come up with when Aneurin Bevan set up the ‘National Health Service’ was ‘there is no planning.’
See where sixty years of ‘planning’ has got us!
I may be wrong here, but I understood it was the socialists (Labour) who introduced the National Health Service?
Watson on Jeff Randall talking about broadband speeds. The black pinstripe again – hope the undermarquees are changed more often. He has grown Dollystubble. The Hoon.
mint humbug on legs
Where is freddie ?
In the nets at Edgebaston
Throw this low at him would you?
http://www.bswa.org/audio/mp3/Brahmavamso_2003_06_27.mp3
Interesting prog on radio 4 now. About Investigation of relationship bet. the US and UK security services in the hidden War on Terror. Pretty scary.
Hi Contessa
Any relationship between the USA and us is one of our complete and total dominaiton by them – it is massaging our nationalistic ego to believe it’s anything other than that.
SS, listen to it (rather late now). The British government are heavily implicated in torture of[prisoners. I’m not really surprised, are you? Quite shocking! Jack the Straw always denied knowledge of rendition – Stranger to the truth.!
I’ll try to catch it on the Iplayer…..I am ashamed of Labour – make no mistake – it is just that I fear the tories even more.
GULP !
Gordon says – ‘don’t blame me America made me do it!!’
Are you naive enough to believe those “holidaying in the middle of helmand” stories?
tell you what antisocialcitizen, we’ll pick you up when you are going about your lawful business, throw you in the back of a truck, give you a good hiding on the way to an airport where we will stick you on an a plane, give you another good beating until you are deaf in one ear and have broken ribs and a broken nose then we will touch down in some godforsaken hole in the middle of nowhere and then really get to work on torturing you properly.
such acts are illegal and entirely counterproductive.
I think that such an experience would do you the world of good, it would open your eyes to the evil you promote and you would probably stop talking shut a load of shit.
you’re an idiot.
go spout your garbage elsewhere. pro torture propagandists like you are not welcome here.
Tat you’re on the right lines there. There are a lot of sadists in the woodwork.
It is not relevant whether Cameron is a `toff` or not. It`s the value system which counts. We know nothing of his actual `beliefs` but it is clear that his`values` are transparently shallow in so far as they can be detected at all. The image does not convey style or a personality which most people can relate to. The things he claims to hold dear, the `poor`, the `broken society`, socialised health care, he has no life experience of whatsoever. When Thatcher spoke of her aspirations in 1979 they were based on her personal life experiences and she spoke from the heart. Cameron`s vision is shallow, lacks substance, and is not relevant to most of the population. The Tories need commitment based on firm policy proposals – sadly currently lacking – to be certain of electoral success. Depending exclusively on the negative of Labour`s long term unpopularity is a gamble to say the least.
He had a handicapped child who he obviously loved dearly. That in itself is hard lesson to learn on one’s journey through life.
DC doesn’t greave too much – he made a nice little earner from it in terms of cash ; public sympathy and column inches..the kid would have been looked after by nannies all its life anyway and sent to boarding school equivalent. . not much credit to him, issit? That is why I dubbed him DC (Dirty C’unt) the cocaine nosed ; grey headed ; hair dyed bastard. The party will ditch him before an election if it has any sense.
this is harsh and a red herring, whether accurate or not. The point is that it is not in itself a qualification for political leadership and nor as an issue does it appear to have any central relevance to what he is all about.
Shut the fuck up you fucking disgusting cnut.
Please show some respect, there is a massive difference between saying you disagree with the policies of a politician or party, and saying he used his dead disabled son to gain public sympathy.
I did not say that Spido did. Read more carefully!
Steve – grow up – your innocence is charming but misplaced
Greave ???? or grieve ???
Try and spell your inaccuracies accurately, please.
for the sake of balance – I would accuse Gordon Brown of the same thing – this is the REAL world, I’m afraid.
SS. That is going too far, even for you! I am shocked that you can be so heartless! Having a handicapped son is not a prerequisite to governing a country, but someone who has suffered in his personal life at least knows what it feels like, and can therefore probably sympathise with another in similar circumstances. Be fair SS, there are plenty of other things you can attack him on. Don’t be such a hard headed Scot.
point taken about the spelling mistake
None of this has anything to do with my comments. Can you all stick to the point actually being made without distorting it with red herrings.
I am not being deliberately nasty – honestly – I do speak from some personal experience – I KNOW other people exploit disability – it happens all the time and politicians are no different
The idea that the financially well cushioned David Cameron would PERSONALLY be inconvenienced by child rearing is laughable – it is a class thing – even Princes Di sent her cubs to fooking boarding school. Toryism ain’t nice – sorry – but its a fact.
Don’t jum on ME – I never sent my kids to boarding school.
No SS, it’s really not okay. REALLY REALLY NOT OKAY.
Cameron very rarely talks about his private life and prefers to keep his family out of the media as much as he can, he gives only the occasional interview to keep the tabloid scum off his back.
What he has gone through recently outside of his job is really horrible, it is the worst thing that could ever happen to a parent.
It’s really not even close to acceptable to accuse him of making financial or political capital from the situation, because this has just not happened. You are so far out of line here I really hope Guido finds a way to ban you permenantly.
This has absolutely nothing to do with it Spido. We all know the point you are making, but it is a cross-societal cross-party point and nothing to do with political leadership. Nor is there anything wrong with boarding schools if that is what people want. The more relevant point to this discussion, and central to it, is that there is something apparently wrong with grammar schools in Cameron`s eyes – their self-evident value and social worth totally escapes Cameron. The paramountcy of vale over belief! Cameron is seriously lacking – no beliefs and phoney values.
Well, for what its worth, I was grammar school educated – but I am NOT in favour of it….I support comprehensive education.
Steve, you are falling into the trap. This is not the issue in hand.
Ignore the twisting lefties!
It’s got comprehensively worse under Labour. A legacy the Tories appear to want to continue.
435 TRUE – and I am flummoxed by it….bad enough that for somthing as important as educaiton we are reduced to crossing our fingers and hoping it will get better :-(
401 Steve – I have no wish to upset you. I respect your position you are making yourself very clear.
true, but it is not necessarily in itself a qualification for either political leadership or political belief.
Anyone who has a disabled child learns many of the hard lessons of life –
how to fight to get the care they need in the NHS ,
how to deal with a child’s questions as they get older as to why they are not
‘normal’ like their freinds
how to fight to give them the education they deserve
how to watch as they fight illness and pain and sometimes lose.
I think those lessons, which I have no doubt dave has learned through his own experiences, might give him some of the compassion for his fellow man that gordon and his government so completely lack. Hope you are reading this Phil HopeMP of Corby and East Northants / Health Minister.
Nell, this not what I am talking about.
Nell completely misses the point being made and twists it into a justifiable emotional sympathy which is not relevant to the points actually made. What Nell says is true but completely irrelevant to the actual issue being discussed here.
that’s our nell for ya – it is no accident though – she knows exactly what she is doing.
The personality of a leader is all important. A kind loving compassionate man IS the first most important attribute. That is how I judge a good leader.
It’s usually very difficult to assess the personality of a leader, unfortunately (as with Blair), his personality only begins to unfold when he has gained power.
Although power itself can be the chief corrupter.
Indeed. Heir to Blair!
agreed
You can only be compassionate with your own money.
If Cameron is against Grammar Schools then I SUPPORT him in that regard
SS
I see you claim you went to Grammar School but are against them now preferring Comprehensives.
Typical socialist – reaping the benefit and than wanting to deny that benefit to anyone else.
SS is an idealist.
Cotessa,
He conceals it very well. I can’t see how anyone who uses such offensive and unpleasant language against those he disagrees with could be called an idealist.
Sengai, you fuckign idiot – I was 11 years old and had no say in it at the time – but now that I am a BIG MAN that thinks for himself, my appraisal of it is that selection per se is BAD, gettit? Grammars were abolished in Scotland circa 1969 – so get out of your time warp, ya foolish, foolish , “person”[sic]
Who cares? I’m not worried. There are worse people out there.
When you leave education up to the government you’re never going to get educated children, all you’re only going to get the current crèche system to enable both parents to pay income tax.
Extortion funding and bureaucrat directed resource allocation are totally wrong tools for creating education (and health and pensions).
The best way is for the government to insist that parents get an education for their children and then loan them the money to buy their own children an education.
When people spend their OWN money they insist on best value for it. Schools competing for parental cash will ensure diversity, innovation and most of all rising standards. It’s like the difference between NHS specs and the current high street specsavers.
Anti Citizen One: you could not be more right! I had the good fortune (or good-enough brain) to go to Grammar School: but, from about the 3rd. Form, I was aware that there was another stratum of School, where even wider opportunities were available, and where, in comparison, ours was a ’slimmed-down’ version. When it came to the education of your two boys, the choice was between a school where two-thirds of the boys had police records, and Private, between a school where a son was bullied almost (literally) to death – and where the school found it easier to make the victim the problem – to Private. Because of my job, and the quirks of various ancient endowments, we were able to send both of them to Independent Schools (where, apart from being looked down on by the children of the wealthy, as ’scholarships boys…’ – and how their Parents disdained to talk to us! they throve).
All Monopolies are evil; State monopolies are the acme of evil!
1431 should be ‘our two boys’… you see: those f***ing Grammar Schools (Antony Crosland) can’t even teach them to write!
The point is this: Cameron has no personal experience or commitment in the social and economic areas which he claims deeply concern him. If he had such experience and if he had political commitment of the right sort, he would be saying virtually the opposite. The values and beliefs all seem shallow and the commitment to Tory values non-existent. What will actually change if he wins?
Cameron is hoping for victory without committing himself to anything..
He’s just saying what he thinks the electorate want to hear.
Yes, that is exactly the point being made! The problem is the middle-class arrogance which assumes that he actually knows what the electorate want to hear. Maybe they want to hear something different – positive and Tory for example?
if people stop getting so angry with me they wills see that is what I am saying too – how CAN an aristoctratic family have the same challenges as the rest of us? They are like fooking Martians by comparison.
To be honest I just don’t get it. I’m an ‘independent’ voter when there’s someone worth voting for – but I like to know what the parties stand for. To me right now it’s one big blur, which frustrates voters that care and turns off voters that don’t (particularly). There are no ’sides’ anymore, so why be interested?
Study philosophy and you will see the differences betwen the parties – they are MAJOR
Philosophy and power don’t seem to be a good mix.
True Db – but they are the reality we live in.
The reality we’re living in is that most of the electorate think that politicians are all the same. That politicians are liars. That politicians are all about greed and personal gain. I blame politicians of all sides for that, and it’s unforgiveable.
You are right – but that cannot be the end of the story – you are an intelligent person – do you not se that YOU have a role to play?
And that role would be what? (Specifically. Apart from voting I mean).
Start with doing what you’re doing now – but instead of getting this far and STOPPING – try to develop your conclusions into a forward plan. Doing nothing just aint an option. I would need to know a lot more about your personal circustances to give you a meaningful answer – just keep thinking, that’s all I am saying.
I’m too busy and too disillusioned to do much more than I do now – vote on principle and offload on here. The sad thing is that even doing that much puts me in the minority.
468 – I need to go – thanks for your input, take care.
406 Where I come from, Sp1sst0Sh1ts, having forebears in Finance and in the Grain business definitely disqualifies someone from being considered ‘Aristocratic’; wealthy, probably, well-connected, perhaps. Aristocratic… no more so than, let me see, Baroness Jay? Lord & Lady Kinnock?
3rd R, But which politician HAS got qualification for doing ANY of the important jobs of state? Politicians are simply unqualified. They move around the ministries like so many pieces on a chess board. Health, education, foreign office, housing etc etc they seem to think they know it all, and they know absolutely nixy.
I’m glad to hear you’re against all this futile tribalism, DBlog.
It’s just all so pointless, and brainless. Bit like a roundel, maybe. (Though there can at least be some beauty in that).
Perhaps one of the things that has clouded politics recently is the information revolution, and the rise of PR and ’spin’. There has always been intrigue, incompetence, greed and graft in politics, but now we can see it more easily as it isn’t filtered by the lobby journalists and controlled by the PR departments as tightly as it was. The manipulation of the media agenda (“news management”) by the current party of government has to be matched to some degree by the parties that aspire to govern – so the ‘truth’ – whatever that might be – is clouded somewhat.
If you can’t sense the (wo)man behind the spin then you don’t deserve the right to vote. The very people that Cameron is hoping to win over with this inclusive bullsh*t will – or should – despise him for it. I don’t doubt the Tories will get in (by default), but he’ll have to change his tune when reality hits – and the fact that he won’t have the backing of many in his party who are, I imagine, keeping schtum until after the election.
Dack – I hear what you say, and I agree – to a point – but I still think both major parties are fighting a PR war rather than a war on substance and core belief at the moment. I think the emphasis will change nearer the election, as the manifestos become clearer.
The standoff between the major parties make it hard for the others to make a case – they don’t know what to be different from.
But doesn’t that make it simple? If they spin, don’t vote for them.
Again – I sort of agree with you. But we need a decent government.
I can understand the stance of those who would vote independent – and we’ve had some good independent MPs recently – Martin Bell in Tatton, and Richard Taylor in Wyre Forest most recently. But to form a government, appoint ministers, make collective decisions for the good of the country would be more than a large group of independents could do, I feel.
We’re stuck with the major parties; the only pragmatic question is which of them is the least worst option to form a government next time round; deciding between them is clouded by all the currently fashionable PR and spin – perhaps less for us, because we take an interest, but certainly for the average person on the street.
We’re stuck with them if you vote for them. It depends what you mean by ‘decent’. I don’t have faith in any of the parties to be that. It may be worth a stalled term of Government (if that turned out to be the case) to drive the point home that many of us are sick to death of the way things are now.
My reply is being modded!
barefootcontessa is right. Politicians are simply not qualified for anything other than being a politician, i.e. cheating, stealing, being opportunistic, knifing each other in back and not telling the truth. All of us are capable of doing the same, but we can also drive HGVs, do scientific research, fight in the Army, pack shelves at Tesco, etc., etc. Politicians cannot do anything else. It’s quite a shock to realise this. An exception might be William Hague – at least he could survive outside of Parliament.
Your are wrong. Cameron has a personal experience and stated commitment to the NHS that is massivley persuasive. We might not agree with what he says, but youy can’t doubt the passions with which he says it in that case at least.
Socialism – Good on Paper, Not in Reality…
An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had failed very few students but had, once, failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, “Ok, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism.”
“All grades will be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade meaning, obviously, no one will receive an A.” They all agreed to this. After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a C. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.
But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too, so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F.
The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. To their great dismay the professor failed them all. Then he sent all of them this note: “A socialistic government will also ultimately fail – because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.”
There is nothing good about socialism, on paper, in theory, or in practice. The Texas professor seems a sensible chap. Is he available as an adviser to Cameron?
you suddenly talk a load of SHITE – why so?
3rd R, the human being isn’t ready for the idealism of socialism. Capitalism isn’t a good system either, so what is?
I don’t think there is one. I don’t trust -isms, of any sort – socialism, communism, capitalism, Thatcherism, whateverism – they all have grains of truth, but none answer all the questions; all of them ultimately fail, perhaps because they all fail to accept the complexity of the human condition. Perhaps we’ve got it about right in British politics; a few years of this, then a few years of that to sway the balance – with nothing too extreme.
Capitalism IS a good system. We have corporatism at the moment.
Capitalism makes corporatism inevitable. It’s just capitalists ganging together for their own best interests (in that sense a bit like the socialist model, except that’s dressed up as being in the interest of everyone).
At the end of the day DC won’t have that much power over his party. Countless focus groups will hone in on him, They are shifting sides as we speak. Democracy? it’s a big joke.
The ‘isms’ you mention have a flavour of religion about them. But pragmatism would be a good ‘ism’ for politicians to follow.
Barefootcontessa – I agree entirely with your point about pragmatism. Backed up by sensible, rational and respectful debate, it must give the best answers in any given situation – not perfect, because nothing ever is; certainly better than any other form of government tried or known.
Some slight misunderstandings here.
Dack Blog: capitalists ganging up together makes monopoly capitalism, not corporatism. Corporatism is when the monopoly capitalists have the politicians make laws which further their monopoly, which tends to the fascistic. The zanu liebore stasi-style spying apparatus could, and perhaps should, be used to further a properly free market by preventing the formation of monopolies and cartels – not just in big business, but also for example in tendering for council works. Ask yourself – is this the sort of thing Cameroon might do? If not, then he is not a capitalist.
contessa: pragmatism is “what works”. For me and you, if something works, it’s because we have some hard facts about it – or made a reasonable deduction from the facts. Or we might just have been lucky. That applies to politicians too, but with this twist: politicians are in a position to make the facts, the “facts on the ground” from implementing policies. So a “pragmatic” politican may, in practise, be no more than one who succeeds in getting away with things. Pragmatism then appears to be a principle of no principles – and no truths.
Only Capitalism allows the freedom to find out “What works”, we call these experiments “businesses” and their experimental success is called “profits”.
Only capitalism allows pragmatism.
Quite right. Socialism has NO merit, Capitalism IS a good system. But the two do not mix well – please note, David Cameron!
Politicians will try to get away with anything that suits them at the time. They should be forced more like lawyers and other professionals to work to a code of practice. They just make it up as they go along, no skill (except lying, and not answering questions), no expertise. Just the gift of the gab, they’ve all got the orange box syndrome, but that seems to be all.
612 – No, Contessa: let them take on Pharisaism, “for they give tithes of mint and rue, and cummin” and ” I fast twice a week, I give tithes of all that I possess…”
1240 – Gu1d0 – a quiet board due to a poor choice of topic is no excuse for your talking a load of balls. Stick to moderating, eh?
Socialism IS good on paper…..only when it’s toilet paper.
chips are good on paper, not so good on a china plate.
PLATitudinous rubbish
chronic – you are a NUTTER
Wiping your arse is good on Paper ! Not so good on a Crisp Bag
Interesting if true. Can you supply an original reference?
Looks like another of those urban legends, unfortunately.
http://www.snopes.com/college/exam/socialism.asp
Although think what is happening in the UK with more and more people being paid to be unproductive and less and less choosing to work hard and pay taxes to support them. Those that can are emigrating or relocating (changing class) and eventually the result will be that the whole class fail (IMF have to bail us out!)
Thanks Steve. It works just as well as a synecdoche, I suppose. I’m about to leave the UK and will take a thriving high-tech business with me, for basically the reasons cited above. Paedo shorts types (witless, unfunny, un-lettered) make it easier to say goodbye – as a Scot, I can categorically say he represents the worst of that fair land.
SOCIALISM IS A WORTHY IDEAL TO ASPIRE TO – INDUBITABLY SO!
Socialism aspires to equality (unless I’ve got it wrong) but fails to take into account the simple fact of human existence that people are not equal. Enforcing a false equality on people will, therefore, always fail – many will fight for their right to be themselves.
And if it REALLY meant that – would it ever have gotten off the ground? It simply means that socialsts think folks can achieve more as part of a group than on their own – “Gestalt” the whole is worth more than the sum of its parts, et cetera. The bible, Freud – and anybody with any sense for the last two hundred years.
Sorry pushed for time tonight
How does that differentiate it from all the other -isms? What, in that case, makes socialism different from communism?
Socialism is COERCED collectivism, and that never builds a gestalt.
Capitalism is voluntary/reciprocal collectivism, and it always does build a gestalt (which we call wealth).
Re Socialism, which is a wonderful concept. Human beings don’t want to make that kind of sacrifice. By it’s nature it has to be authoritarian, and by the time people are sufficiently educated they don’t want to be pushed around by the state. Nevertheless, there are principles of state ownership which give a cohesion and stability to a society.
A stability that isn’t obviously isn’t wanted. If only socialists could only tax other socialists.
545 – Ant Ciitizen – when your mother had that abortion they definitely threw away the wrong thing….you would give a bad name to afterbirth with all the drivel you talk.
Socialism is slavery. Socialism is to sharing what rape is to marriage.
Socialism means…
The death of reciprocal society (optimal strategy in repeated prisoner dilemma).
The destruction of comparative advantage (the only way to create wealth).
The removal of freedom (that which makes life worthwhile).
Socialists deserve to be put on trial. If I was religious I’d think that the devil created socialism so malign and negative its outcomes whilst allowing those marxist simpletons to believe they are doing good.
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
Socialism is the belief that the provsion of material needs is a collective, rather than an individual responsibility. As socialism runs its course, people will no longer take individual responsibility for anything in the belief that someone else will do it. The result is stagnation and the breakdown of communities as the responsibilty for taking care of one’s neighbourhood is transferred from individuals to a government with no personal stake in the matter.
There has to be compromise. As said before pragmatism is the best way forward. Otherwise you get some tin pot dictator in love with his own ego – viz the disreputable tony blair, and dare I say it margaret thatcher, and now the intolerable gorgon. Mandelson is also coming up on the rails!! There’s a vile specimen of humanity for you! Fair rules should be clearly laid down that politicians simply couldn’t deviate from. ‘Bees in their bonnets’ would simply not be allowed.
616 Contessa As Oscar Wilde said about Wagner – “He has wonderful moments, but terrible half-hours”, so of Socialism – ‘A wonderful concept; a terrible practice.’
But could it be the people who run the system who are at fault, after all, unscrupulous ‘men’ can take up any religion, political system ( even democracy) and spin it around so that it works to their personal advantage? State ownership is the best way when it comes to water, transport, electricity and gas etc, but because these utilities were so badly run the idea arose that the system was at fault, when really it was the ‘men’ who ran the system who weren’t up to scratch. This answer to Jethro.
1766 Contessa No, and a thousand times No! Nationalisation was the beginning of the end of the Railway-system: from Nationalisation, through Beeching, to ‘train-operating companies’ and ‘Railtrack’, it has been a story of steady decline. We were in Brighton when the de-regulation of buses first came in, and it was amazing: there were more frequent buses, and lower fares: it reminded me of my home, where two brothers had put their gratuities into running buses (‘the Blue buses’), which somehow survived despite ‘Western National’ and actually kept ‘Western National’ on its toes for the particular route they served. Nationalisation certainly spelled the ruin of our local Gas-company, which no longer had the need to satisfy its customers and, of course, when ‘North Sea Gas’ came along, the gas-works closed, whereas a private Gas Company might have continued to offer an alternative source of gas to North Sea, AND kept our coal-mines in production. Is ‘Transco’, or whatever it is going to extend its pipework to places like the gas-less village I now live in? No! No more than Network Rail, or whatever it’s called, is going to bring back the branch-lines killed off by Beeching, and re-instate the goods-system that made it economical, convenient, and environmentally-friendly to move milk, grain, fish, cattle, sheep, flowers from where they were produced to where they were needed. What does ‘State ownership’ mean? It means centralisation, bureaucracy, captive-markets, interference by politicians in matters where their ignorance is total. Has any ‘Nationalised’ industry ever produced a profit, or a dividend? No! The reverse: loss-making is somehow thought to be not just what happens, but seen as somehow virtuous, keeping non-jobs going in outmoded industries seen as ‘the right thing to do’.
The Great Western Railway was not ‘badly run’ – ‘British Rail’ was, and so was ‘British Gas’. Just imagine, Contessa, if you had only a ‘British Hairdresser’ to go to, could only get a phone from The G.P.O., etc., etc.!
Indeed but no socialist evers gets there -corruption usually diverts their attention. Witness what 12 years in power have done. Socialism it ain’t. Totalitarianism it is.
Witness Blair buying his pension with the blood of British troops.
Witness a Cabinet packed with uneelcted Lords of the Realm…..socialism?
Delusion more like.
Socialism = crime
good post mitch
Yes it is a good example of the way socialism is self defeating. As the workers used to say in the Soviet Union, “They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.”
I need a plop after eating too many plumbs
Let’s have a group dump TTTTTTTThhhrroooooooooooooooooooooooop
It’s called a Cabinet meeting
Are your plums ripe then? They’re very early – ours won’t be ready until September.
Read Heffer in the DT. SPOT ON!
He usually is.
HAHAHHAhahaaaaaaa!!!!!!! From BAD to WORSE!
He usually isn’t!
So what if Cameron is a Toff? What matters is whether he cares for his country, and has the ability to lead and learn from the mistakes he will inevitably make along the way
By the way Sp**do Sh**rts, since you are demonstrably incapable of natural human empathy, please refrain from guessing the feelings of others
define “country” in the sense that you are using it in your post – - I CHALLENGE you to do that — talk is cheap
, back up your words with substance – DEFINE COUNTRY – if you can
talk is cheap but Aldi is cheaper.
go clean the shit off your foreskin little teenager
“Country” in this instance is quite straightforward – the United Kingdom, and all the peoples living in it.
how fooking childish can you get? Sheeeee!! STOP mouthing off platitudes – learn to develop an argument that follows through from premise(s) to conclusion then we can tyake it seriously.
What’s your problem with that simple statement?
on the premises put forward by speedo my conclusion is that you can not tyake him seriously.
your gang in a prison riot. It’s even better than the cricket test, apparently.
Or – HANK WILLIAMS III
whichever you prefer.
Speedo is being very nice to me at the moment. I don’t know what he wants, but I’m sure he’s a very clean living person. He has told me that he feels more comfortable with older ladies, so perhaps it’s an age thing with him.
P.S. I’ve just read Post 450, so I redact the second sentence.
Don’t read post 338 whatever you do…
I’ve just read them both !
Curiosity killed the cat.
Actually, it was the spelling mistake in the first line that most offended me. Didn’t Tony Blair say something about education, education, education?
Snap
Redactio ad absurdum
Country = electorate
well thank you for that – it saves me wasting any more time on you.
Cameron : Jock by name Jock by nature !
Some of my best friends are Scots.
some of my best friends are tosspots.
Ditto.
I haven’t seen a peep from the Tories about raising R&D, a long-term attitude to finance, or fair wages. Not a peep, and these people are supposed to be the party of developing business opportunity and everyone’s pal?
At the first whiff of danger they shrivelled like a sheet of polythene exposed to the flame. Where’s the vision? Where’s the leadership? Where’s the guts? I don’t see it, probably, because the Tories don’t have it in them. Paper tigers, the lot of ‘em.
Phah – they are the party of ME – the party of greed and repression – General Pinochet on STILTS (bastards in other words)
To confuse self-interest and selfishness is a common mistake made by idiots.
Due to comparative advantage (which is best supported by free markets) self-interest and the wider wealth of society are aligned.
Socialism kills wealth that’s why socialist societies get poorer.
what planet do you come from originally?
1320 What septic-tank do you inhabit, normally?
R&D = Damian and Draper developing Redrag
Long term attitude to finance = gordon – I’m going to spend spend spend – like that Pool’s winner – what was her name??
‘Fair wages’ = £64k for people like mint humbug with legs plus final salary pension . And for our lads in Afghanistan who risk life and limb £16K.
Labour thought – “What mugs these british electorate are – we can milk this cash cow forever”
what cow ?
Harriet Harman
Sorry grammatical error that should read “witch cow?”
I now have a mental vision of a Holstein wearing a giraffe-print suit and riding a broomstick – yeuch…
LOL
yes that’s her !
(Feel a bit guilty about besmirching Holsteins now…..)
Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.
Oh bugger! I just had a very large line of cocaine and I have been going through my posts looking for mistakes. There are effing loads of them!
These are the corrections for my last mis-post:
I haven’t seen a peep from The New Labour war party about raising R&D, a long-term attitude to finance, or fair wages. Not a peep, and these people are supposed to be the party of developing business opportunity and everyone’s pal?
At the first whiff of danger they shrivelled like a sheet of polythene exposed to the flame. Where’s the vision? Where’s the leadership? Where’s the guts? I don’t see it, probably, because the New Labour warmongers don’t have it in them. Paper tigers, the lot of ‘em.
AND YET AGAIN NOT ONE MP ATTENDS THE REPATRIATION CEREMONY DOES ANY MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT KNOW WHERE WOTTON BASSETT IS ? Oh i forgot they are ALL on holiday
Never mind the MP’s what about the PM or Bob’bustingagut (not)’ – showing some respect!
Four young men came home in coffins today ++sad++
But also let’s not forget that for every young man who is brought home dead – eight (8!!!) come home seriously maimed.
So 32 seriously injured today – and those 32 and all the 100’s more that have come before them and the 100’s that will come after them are being forced to fight this decaying government for disability support using expensive lawyers through the courts.
Just imagine the stress that these men and their families are being needlessly put through by this uncaring government.
Having been prepared to give the ultimate sacrifice for their country and having been injured shouldn’t they now be cared for by that government that sent them to war??!!
Not according to the parsimonious scotch gordon and his cockroach sidekick bob.
You’re a real lady Nell – a REAL lady Hahahahaha!!!
You’re promised to me, Speedo. I’ll make an exception for Nell though as she’s a real class act.
Takes one, to know one.
Don’t be ridiculous, that’s just sloganised emotionalism.
Get a grip.
She’s a fooking shroud chaser *sicko*
Love you Spido Skirts –
You are a real, caring, compassionate slug.
Just like bob’bustingagut not worth a dime person’
Len, get a life and eschew death (especially other people’s which seems to be your hobby) – you are a ghoul.
Is the third roundel poster really Gu1d0 ?
Hell! Geoffrey Wheatcroft hasn’t aged well, has he? What is he? Someone’s painting in the attic?
High Tory? Yeah, right…
People forget how big business fought change and how they screamed at the merest whiff that their house price rise would slow. They also forget how Labour has massively redistributed income to the poor via tax credits while the Tories still vehemently oppose a rise in the minimum wage.
Shouldn’t worry about Big Business Charles, Brown has made them small businesses
Like the old adage:
How do you make a small fortune under a Labour Government?
Start with a large one
How do you make a large fortune under a Labour Government?
Build flats
No!! He’s made them bankrupt!!! He’s made us , our children and our grandchildren bankrupt!!!
And what’s he going to do?? Clear off to Europe when he loses the next election, and become the Chancellor of the EU on megga troughing expenses
A tax credit is worthless if you pay no tax; the poorest pay no tax. So how do tax credits help the poor?
But in Gordon Brown’s queer, envious little world, you think that by giving back some of what was taken, certain people will vote Labour.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh – they would rather forget all that !!
Yep, labour have massively redistributed (or stolen) wealth from the private wealth creating sector and given it the rent-seeking sector.
fi it’s a date you’re after – fuck off
I’d prefer you to fuck off. Have another date with your wrist.
Try not to bash any women either.
If the Tories are so good why do they side with the CBI in opposing corporate governance law, and why don’t the wealthy classes who hire accountants to take the strain help out the poor with organising their tax credits? Perhaps, it’s something to do with the Tories not wanting to dilute their power and privilege, eh?
The tax credits, or whatever other systems are in place to help the poor, should be simplified to the point where accountants are not needed to help them out, the average man should be able to go through a simple form of 3 or 4 pages and get to a result.
Why does every interaction with the government have to be so damn complicated, apart from making jobs for all the paper-shufflers??
Did you get my message Steve – I’m a bit piushed at teh moment.
Yes I did. Enough said for now, but you’d better be on best behaviour tomorrow!
478 – That’s “piushed” as in ” pushed”, or “piushed” as in in “pi55ed”, or “piushed” as in “poo-ished”… or…
Love “teh moment” – Yeah, Man!
Excellent points – wonder of we get an answer?!
“…wonder of we get an answer…” or, perhaps, “wander off…” or “Wanda! Of we get an answer…?”
A tax credit is worthless if you pay no tax; the poor pay no tax so how can you claim tax credits help the poor?
If you are saying that tax credits help those on the margin between work and welfare, then why did you tax those poor people in the first place?
Unless you think that by giving back some of what was taken in tax, people will vote Labour
They’ll have to tug their forelocks first before they get any money
Annual income = £9280 on which I pay tax at the new higher lowest rate.
That’s it, that’s all I get. Permanently disabled after criminal assault, after 25 years paying income tax and NI. No family tax credits, no disability benefits, nothing.
Any Labour Lover want to swap places with me?
Britain is appallingly bad at leadership and teamwork, but by giving people chances to develop proper skills and meet other people the foundations of tomorrow’s thinking and cooperative leaders, entrepreneurs, and community leaders is being formed. Tory paranoia just proves they want to sell people the illusion of success but will oppose anything that really changes things.
Thanks PT Barnum, you exemplify the injustice of tax credits: why award a tax credit to someone who sits 16 hours a week on the till at Tesco, whilst others less able but equally needy are taxed? The only winners are large firms like Tesco, who enjoy the benefit of a taxpayer-subsidised part-time workforce
Compare and contrast the two replies to my post.
The one from grobdj, a Tory (correct me if I’m wrong!), human, analytical, connecting the individual to the political.
The other, from Brown’s Biggest Fan? Words fail me. But I am obviously a paranoid Tory who has failed to grasp the lesson that tomorrow’s thinking will enable me to get over the contingent Tory-inspired illusion that I struggle to walk 10 yards. And the Etonian-created epilepsy I suffer from? Gordon will cure me. Hurrah.
charles, you have been rumbled as an american CIA stooge.
give it up FFS.
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I thought it was Labour MP’s paying for accountants with taxpayers money to maximise their expenses.
263 – 42%, 24%, 18% in fact.
Goodnight all
g00d n1ght
Awesome debate and dismantling of socialist myths by the late great Mliton Freidman:
Oh that Mr. Freidman of the Chicago School of Economics where it all started in America (also Mrs Thatcher and Ronald Reagan’s hero)
And now an example of greed-driven redistribution of wealth which would almost certainly meet with Mr. Freidman’s approval. You can be assured that the successful recipients of the building funding mentioned below are well-known to the planning officers, Common Purpose, Banks, and so on.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090727/tuk-1bn-to-kick-start-house-building-6323e80.html
Lord Fondelbottom went to the barbers to have his hair adjusted.
Lord Fondelbottom asked his gardener to make some tough choices regarding his lawn.
I wish Lord Fondelbottom would make some efficiency savings to his own throat.
Gordon has issued a letter tonight as he grimly tries to hold onto the reins of power whilst harriett is playing at being MrsT and mandy is pulling the strings behind the scenes.
Gordon’s main message is ‘growth is going to return before the end of the year’
Yep- that will re-energise the Labour campaign.
Of course it is gordon – suggest you take whatever it was michael jackson was taking to get a good night’s sleep.
Please keep our men in Afghanistan safe. Good night. God Bless.
It’s a fact that under Thatcherism that apprenticeships and middle-management training was almost destroyed. This undermined business skill and savvy, and has led directly to industrial failure and management greed. By giving people this opportunity the green shoots of a better Britain are being nurtured.
12 years Hardwidge, 12 years you’ve been in power and it’s still Thatcher’s fault. It’s nearly 19 years since she left office and it’s still Thatcher’s fault
….nobody under the age of 37 voted for Thatcher (or Kinnock!)
…so very probably neither did you….
…which is why you won’t remember what happened to the Tory chancellor Lamont who mentioned green shoots a tad too early
HardPrick,
I did my bricklaying apprenticeship during the eighties and very good it was too.
Industrial failure has come about under New Labour due to the lamentable fact that the UK does not manufacture much any more.
You talk of “greed” but where is there not greed? Where are these angels that have no greed? North Korea / Cuba / Venezuela / Iran? Don’t make me laugh.
If you want to talk about greed, then look no further than our larcenous Prime Minister / former Chancellor wresting tax money from those who have worked their backsides off and EARNED it, all in return for what?
Socialism and capitalism are mere perspectives of an underlying reality. The Tao suggests that everything arises from the Yin (or female, or Socialist), and that the Yang (or macho, or Capitalism) always collapses back into the Yin.
You can see a similar dynamic in communication or marketing. The punchy, shrill, and cheap blow looks powerful and get a lot of attention for little effort (like Guido Fawkes), but the more subtle, long-term, and gentle always prevails.
Be still, grasshopper.
Charles – my goodnight thought’s on your worthless statements -
’shrill and cheap’ = harriett
’subtle and long term’ = gordon’s economic disastrous policies.
And for the trolls on here tonight let’s not forget those four musketeers –
TWatson (the mint humbug on legs) –
damian (the 20 yr old who looks like 90),
Edblls (that eminent educationalist who can’t spell) and finally ,
cwhelan (he who uses UNITE members expenses for all things personal to charlie that they were not intended to be used for,)
Spido Skirts and charlie salute you.
Subtle and long term – like your Common Purpose?
Two minutes between this and his previous post. Doesn’t seem long enough to have typed the above. So, either Charles is a bot or he is copying and pasting this horseshit from somewhere. At the day, I suppose it’s all irrelevant. He’s a pointless little tool with no life.
My general view is that the focus should be on jobs creation and fair wages. Business has to innovate and create jobs that people want, rather than them being risk averse and people being whipped into submission. Indeed, that great capital of international Communism, America, is poised to go down that track.
If people can get over this blip and the siren call of an unreformed Tory party the big economic lie will be blown. Folks will see there are alternatives and the Tory claim of cleaning up Labour’s “mess” as mere sloganised emotionalism.
You really are a Fuckwit Crackhead Smallwidge Even on the planet from whenst you came
nope , no one interested in turning to the dark side tonight harwidge ! tough titty
will the last person to leave put his, sorry, THE lights out.
“My general view is that the focus should be on jobs creation and fair wages. Business has to innovate and create jobs that people want, rather than them being risk averse and people being whipped into submission”
Charles, I run a ‘risky’ startup software development company in the North West. I guess you also run a ‘risky’ business too in these trying times. So, I will touch base with you tomorrow and swap notes…
One of the most formative books I ever read was Alvin Toffler’s Third Wave. A lot of his thoughts on the “knowledge worker” and “future shock” came together in this book, as did his view that both capitalism and communism were mere perspectives on the market which is, itself, merely another layer on reality. This is something that both the left and right might benefit from reflecting on.
Alvin Tofflers third wave , is of the type of Charles Handy and Tom Peters and Bill Gates , all of which make no reference to the creation of underclass caused a liberal class jet setting around the world with visonary ideas based on the changes that the PC and internet would bring and globalisation .
self full filling prohecy , they sell the technology then tell everyone it will be fantastic , looks a bit cultish these days hardwidge , never mind the deaths that causing the banking system to destabilise has caused .
besides they always end up being control freaks because they think they have cracked human behavoir into liberal mind sets .
that is a very american thing to say charles.
californian to be more precise.
Lord mandelson had a bit of tricky time with Nick Robinson , he could neither be decision maker nor flak taker , he evaded when he could have been clear although his unusal answer answer to robinsons “leader” question , reminded me why Masters of PR dont make good leaders . What would a mandelson Labour party be like ?? probebely like being in pub when one of your mates says your marvellous and puts his arm round you and you feel a rush of social acceptance , half an hour later your getting a bit pissed off that the arm is still there and realise its a PR oppertunity .
but they still dont get it , Lisbon is perhaps the worst case of how labour works , still no appology despite many people feeling unlistened to . Still cant mention cuts , still not wanting people to comprehend the ecnomic mess .
Soft jobs tommorow , could the new buzz word be soft landing , except it will be a soft landing for a long time , for those soft in the head enough not to realise jobs created by debt mean funding by taxation . Jobs stats are due to hit 3 million by feb and that doesnt include “not working” , so its beautifcation of the prison camp , “zee look national socialism haz many benefits ”
This mandelson sort of area , creating jobs not being negative , not talking things down , well sort of It could easiyl be so misconstrewed as artexing the walls of a structurally unsound building and trying to sell it on dishonestly .
It was funny that peter made no attempt to suggest they should cut spending on the obvious waste of money the “ver are your paperz” data base , so quite why his great political experience is wedded to ruinomics , suggest they hope the spin will work . most people have worked out that sound money helps everyone , and getting back to sound money will ensure more jobs over the longer term .
but socialism isnt just some cuddly , touchey feely type of politics , 6 banks have gone under , banks that were so over revved that they were allowed to run up a 400% debt to deposite ratio , without even a sniff of interest from the treasury at the scale of banks taking money from interbank lending . The unseen aspects of labour bank bust , have been the drying up of business credit (whilst they improve there balance sheets) , with lending interest far higher than Gordons claim the benfits of low interest rate recession , and the little folk struggling day to day with bills and bank charges of £5 day when you go 1p overdrawn . so restoring the bank balance sheets has been done by stealth , but that doesnt cure the public borrowing crack habit which will have to be paid for by taxation .
labour may well be wanting a guff offensive , but people arnt stupid , its pretty pointless for them until they are honest with the treasury figures .
even an old hooker can look attractive in the dark if your drunk enough
I heard one Zen quote this week: “We aren’t defined by what we do but what we let go of”. People can cling too tightly to ideas and self-image even when that threatens critical failure or death. Its sounds insanely easy and worth nothing at all, but I’ve found practicing letting go helps reduce some of the cynicism and damage and like, I suppose, Keynes ultimate vision leads somewhere better.
i have just let go of a meat fart
Let me through – I’m a butcher!
Nice pic of Kate garraway and dolly in the daily wail today, aint he got fat?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1202812/Remind-Derek-whos-having-baby.html
You mean this ??
Wot a fat tramp.
He still looks like a tramp’s mate.
$2.4b UK job creation scheme
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Money/Story/STIStory_409544.html
LONDON – THE British government will on Wednesday announce a 1 billion pounds (S$2.4 billion) scheme to create tens of thousands of taxpayer-funded public sector jobs for the unemployed, according to the Daily Telegraph.
The report said the scheme would be created by councils, quangos and charities under a plan to remove 150,000 people from the unemployment register over the next two years.
The first 47,000 jobs in the scheme, costing about 300 million pounds, will be announced on Wednesday by Ms Yvette Cooper, the work and pensions secretary.
The list of new vacancies, most of which will be filled by 18 to 24 year olds, will include sports coaches, classroom assistants and social carers, said the report.
Jobs based around refurbishing council houses and in local recycling projects are also likely to be created, said the report. — REUTERS
All spin
This also
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6731114.ece
they create non jobs here and outsource 100 jobs at the British council to India when over 3 million people are desperate here for a job. You couldn’t make it up. Liebour destroying England.
People in private industry have had their jobs “outsourced” to India for years…let’s see how the public sector like it when it applies to them.
All we need now is the “soft jobs” to be outsourced.
“Young Persons Community Outreach Officer” for £80,000 (of tax UK payer’s money) in Bangalore anyone?
Some mistake surely? I caught part of an item on BBC Breakfast which stated that jobs are being created for young people as fitness and dance instructors.
Obviously with potential to star in the re-make of “Fame”
£63829.79 per job? Where do I sign?
You forget the agency fees, finders’ fees, employers’ fees, employers’ NI contributions and VAT on all the fees. The employee will be on £5.73 an hour…
Apologies for the cynicism so early in the morning, but we all know how this government works by now.
There is never any challenge on these spin annoucements. Do the journlists ever carry a calculator around and do the math – house building annoucement works out at 23k a house, avg house even in this depressed market is circ 150k, how can that be, these jobs work out at 63k per job, how can that be based upon minimum wage to be paid. We are taken for mugs, this is OUR FUTURE MONEY being spent as it is ALL borrowed money. Spin Spin Spin, and we just soak it up, take it on the chin, lie down and have our tummy tickled. It just keeps happening, bad news story after bad, as a direct result of this governments failings and they just keep going, staggering on, committing more money we cannot afford, still with a silly grin and arrogant stance. Enough is Enough!
Morning All
Two old dears are having a coffee & one says “did you come on the bus?” The other says “yes, I certainly did but I made it look like an asthma attack.”
What are you? A 12-year old?
I apologise my Noble Lord,how about this
Prime Minister Vladimir Putin called Gordon Brown with an emergency: “Our largest condom factory has exploded!” the Russian Prime Minister cried; “my people’s favourite form of birth control! This is a true disaster!”
“Vladimir, the English people would be happy to do anything within their power to help you,” replied the Prime minister.
“I do need your help,” said Putin. “Could you possibly send 1,000,000 condoms ASAP to tide us over?”
“Why certainly! I’ll get right on it!” said Brown.
“Oh, and one more small favour, please?” said Putin.
“Yes?”
“Could the condoms be red in colour and at least 10″ long and 4″ in diameter?” said Putin.
“No problem,” replied Gordon Brown and, with that, he hung up and called the President of Durex. “I need a favour, you’ve got to make 1,000,000 condoms right away and send them to Russia.”
“Consider it done,” said the President of Durex.
“Great! Now listen, they have to be red in colour, 10″ long and 4″ wide.”
“Easily done. Anything else?”
“Yeah,” said Gordon Brown, “print ‘MADE IN BRITAIN, SIZE MEDIUM’ on each one.”
1. Teaching Maths In 1970.
A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit?
2. Teaching Maths In 1980.
A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100. His cost of production is 80% of the price. What is his profit?
3. Teaching Maths In 1990.
A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100. His cost of production is £80. How much was his profit?
4. Teaching Maths In 2000.
A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100. His cost of production is £80 and his profit is £20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20.
5. Teaching Maths In 2005.
A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habit of animals or the preservation of our woodlands.
Your assignment: Discuss how might the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes just for a measly profit of £20.
6. Teaching Maths In 2009.
A logger is arrested for trying to cut down a tree in case it may be offensive to Muslims or other religious groups not consulted in the felling licence. He is also fined a £100 as his chainsaw is in breach of Health & Safety legislation as it deemed too dangerous and could cut something. He has used the chainsaw for over 20 years without incident however he does not have the correct certificate of competence and is therefore considered to be a recidivist and habitual criminal. His DNA is sampled and his details circulated throughout all government agencies. He protests and is taken to court and fined another £100 because he is such an easy target. When he is released he returns to find Gypsies have cut down half his wood to build a camp on his land. He tries to throw them off but is arrested, prosecuted for harassing an ethnic minority, imprisoned and fined a further £100. While he is in jail the Gypsies cut down the rest of his wood and sell it on the black market for £100 cash. They also have a leaving BBQ of squirrel and pheasant and depart leaving behind several tonnes of rubbish and asbestos sheeting. The forester on release is warned that failure to clear the fly tipped rubbish immediately at his own cost is an offence. He complains and is arrested for environmental pollution, breach of the peace and invoiced £12000 plus VAT for safe disposal costs by a regulated government contractor. Your assignment: How many times is the logger going to have to be arrested and fined before he realises that he is never going to make £20 profit by hard work, give up, sign onto the dole and live off the state for the rest of his life?
7. Teaching Maths In 2010.
A logger doesn’t sell a lorry load of timber because he can’t get a loan to buy a new lorry; his bank has spent all his and their money on a derivative of securitized debt related to sub- prime mortgages in Alabama and lost the lot; they only have some government money left to pay a few million pound bonuses to their senior directors and the traders who made the biggest losses. The logger struggles to pay the £1200 road tax on his old lorry however, as it was built in the 1970s, it no longer meets the emissions regulations and he is forced to scrap it. Some Bulgarian loggers buy the lorry from the scrap merchant and put it back on the road. They undercut everyone on price for haulage and send their cash back home, while claiming unemployment for themselves and their relatives. If questioned they speak no English and it is easier to deport them at the governments expense. Following their holiday back home they return to the UK with different names and fresh girls and start again. The logger protests, is accused of being a bigoted racist and as his name is on the side of his old lorry he is forced to pay £1500 registration fees as a gang master. The Government borrows more money to pay more to the bankers as bonuses are
not cheap. The parliamentarians feel they are missing out and claim the difference on expenses and allowances. You do the maths!!!
8. Teaching Maths 2017.
أالمسجل تبيع حموله شاحنة من الخشب من اجل 100 دولار. صاحب تكلفة الانتاج من
A levels are NEVER this hard
أنت كافر ، ط ستخفض مع الكرات الخاصة بك مع gilette الشفرة 3 ماخ ، وحشر لهم القاع الخاص بك
Oh that explains it then.
I think there is a factor of 2 missing
1. Teaching Maths In 1960
Build a truck out of Meccano capable of hauling £100 worth of timber. Set up a timber-hauling business and make a profit. You are each supplied with 6d. Summit your profit/loss account using both double-entry and single-entry book-keeping in copperplate. Use one side of the paper only.
LOL classic
Whatever you think of David Cameron at least he and the tory party are not trying to destroy our once great country unlike the old hard left under brown who are doing their very best to destroy everything that was good about our country. Do you now realise that they do hate the English and everything we stand for?
Banned, the police Union Flag badge that backs our troops
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202882/Banned-police-Union-Flag-badge-backs-troops.html#ixzz0McvqpzNX
Every one has many many more stories where this one came from. Liebour destroying England and the Union.
Bob ‘Fred Kite’ Ainsworth a walking disaster, Gordon Brown loses respect and Jack Straws Uncle gets cross
Yes, the New Labour government are the real “criminal class” in Britain:-
British troops wounded in Afghanistan are enduring lengthy delays before receiving hospital treatment because of a shortage of helicopters, senior army surgeons have claimed.
Medics in Helmand province, where another soldier died yesterday, said a lack of British aircraft meant that bringing out wounded soldiers takes twice as long as when injured American soldiers were evacuated in Vietnam 40 years ago.
An experienced combat surgeon revealed that the lack of helicopters meant UK forces would find it “impossible” to transport their wounded if they did not have access to US Black Hawks. One said that up to 50% of all British “casevacs” – casualty evacuations – use American helicopters.
The surgeon, who asked for anonymity, also revealed that the Royal Army Medical Corps and senior military figures had been asking for a dedicated fleet of medevac helicopters since 2007, but their pleas have been rejected by Whitehall (aka New Labour traitors, aka the Communist Tyrant Brown)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/wor…roops-risk
Outrageous This Lie-Bore pile of shite should be had up for War Crimes againt their own troops ! And they Still stand up and say the army has enough equipment. Lying bastards !
I wouldn’t normally get involved with any thing at the equal opportunties place where that trevor bloke resides. However the Guardian seem to be running a different story on him every day trying to destroy him, headlines like trevor phillips career in crisis. Can’t you see the concerted effort going on to destroy this guy and get him removed by the far left? Just the sort of people who you wouldnt want to be associated with if there was a war going on. They would soon sell you out just to save their own skin.
Despicable people doing their best to destroy England. They will if you continue to let them.
Been saying for ages what Simon Heffer wrote in his Leader Daily Telegraph 29 July.
Unless Camerhoon gets a grip, finds his principles, ups his game, surrounds himself with a shadow cabinet with some grey matter free of their impressionable, shallow, weak, useless, hopeless morals and attitudes he will become another Heath.
Hague will wait in the wings, a Statesman in the making, waiting for his chance to lead our country from this quagmire.
You will all be disappointed otherwise. You have been warned.
Yes I am a Tory; but how can I possibly vote for a Conservative party which WANTS to increase personal tax? That is not Conservatism.
Camerhoon, you are a hoon. Get a bloody grip man. Start by sacking your colleagues who lied and cheated with their expenses. Prove yourself to be a Leader. Anyone can be firm, tough even. But you fail to show moral leadership. direction, purpose.
God help us all.
this is just your view point. but cameron has to appeal to 63 million people and he is doing his best to do that. Once in power as all governments do, they can move on and do what instinct tells them . Just like balir/brown did after a few years, move this country to the far left. So be patient and it will happen
Heffer is a past it whining old windbag with a face like a collapsed lung.
Agree, just like that Aaronawitch geyser. As to Cameron versus Haig. The female vote is vital, and Cameron is much prettier than Haig. Sorry folks, that’s how the cookie crumbles!
Agreed just my viewpoint, but I absolutely assure you it is shared by many, many Consservatives.
I think even you know some of what I say is true otherwise you would have given a greater defence of Dave.
63 million plus people in the UK. True. How many eligible to vote? and of those it is unlikely more than 40% will do so, such is the disillusion with Politicians.
Sorry amigo, we have a disaster in the making. Granted there are no real alternatives but that is no excuse for voting in a bunch of inexperienced weaklings. Surely they can do better than the current lineup, most of whom no one has ever heard despite 12 years of sitting on their fat arses doing bugger all whilst being paid handsomely.
well just vote for brown and liebour then, YOU will be better off with them. You are akin to the hard left who didnt want to compromise to get blair elected. So is democracy just for YOU? I’m a pragmatist, get cameron in no 10 first then we can move on.
Anoymous is missing the point. I am a Conservative voter as well, but Cameron has to discard all the bad points of Westminster and New labour.
UK interests have to be controlled from the UK. European Economic Comunity yes, Central Europoean Parliament with a president no. Govern by consensus cabinet, not executive office. Live within your means. That means sorting out a brand new system of rewarding MP’s and the Lords compensation comensarate with what they would receive in the private sector with fully accountable expenses system including a receipt for everything. Root out all abusers and prosecute and imprison the frauds which may include baroness Uddin if her petrol claims prove to be unfounded. Prioritise Education, Health, Transport, Crime and swift support for hard hit families. Sort out benefit scams like incapacity, tax credits. Get us out of supporting US police actions like Afghanistan, they don’t need us and we can’t afford it. Tighten free for all immigration and limit assylum seekers, again we can’t afford it. Cut back foreign aid until we can properly look after our own population. Abdicate from the silly parts of the Human Rights Bill; if we have dangerous criminals in our country, send them back after they have done their time; if they get trouble back home, that is their look out, they should not abuse our hospitality.
Unless, Cameron is that bold, I agree with “When all this nonsense…” he will stall and waste the extraordinary reforming opportunity he has to make Britain “Great” again.
The UK has manifold problems created by 12 years of wooly pandering and big government that are going to get worse. The electorate can take a bold reform agenda that lets us control our own destiny and help ourselves.
Do not underestimate the economic and social peril that faces Albion, this is a time for introspective, socially orientated policies that we can afford to help all Britions get through the “New Normal” of a significantly slower economy.
Get it right Dave and you’ll be the new Maggie, fail to be bold enough and you’ll be another carteaker PM until a saviour rises.
Anonymous – the reality is very straightforward. Cameron is perceived to support thieves and liars in OUR party. He needs to dump them now.
Then even without a single policy and statements which include increasing personal tax and the inntroduction of road pricing and total lack of support for grammar schools will be lost in the haze of euphoria which will grip the entire party as our election success draws close.
We must be seen to principled first and foremost. Without principles we are as bad as the rotten corpse that our current Govt is.
principled?
dont make me laugh!
you dont get it do you?
you have a choice and it looks like your hatred of cameron will ensure brown gets re-elected. you sure you really are tories?
you have learnt nothing from the brown/blair years. democracy is only for you. You are the one that is important here, no one else.
selfish just selfish
old labour, as much in common with old tories.
No more selfish than politicans from all colours who thieve and lie to feather their own nest.
Haven’t learned from the Brown/Blair years. Oh yes I have which is why I call for principles to be restored.
Selfish. Matter of opinion amigo. I give much of my free time to the community, gratis – yes elected too. Selfish in looking after my family, yes. But I don’t thieve, cheat and lie to provide for them.
Hatred of Cameron. Not true. I don’t hate him. I am in despair of him. Eduacted, well connected, monied. Lucky chap. Just wish he would learn to use his grey matter. In life you cannot be all things to all men. Eton ought to have taught him that.
Most of the Tory activists and lowly councillors are really Lib Dems in disguise – they want power, influence and prestige. Noble aims but not when they are false to themselves.
Don’t be frustrated and angered by a true Tory. I am one of very many who feel the same way. You’ll get over it and one day, in the not too distant future you will see me proved correct
her own ego wants her tp be proved correct, so there you go,IT IS ALL ABOUT HER/HIM, NO DIFFERNET TO ANY POLITICIAN
Don’t be ridiculous, they moved the party to the right! Yes, Les 3 Suisses, a very reasonable clothes outlet.
If he sacked all the cheats and chancers Iwould vote for him. TWICE
If he sacked all the cheats and chancers there wouldn’t be anyone left.
So vote for someone else and let McBroon in again
No you’re not a Tory, you’re the golf club bore and I claim my £5. DC doing an exceptional job of appealing to the wider electorate ! (Comment from a Tory with recent electoral canvassing experience.)
But that’s the bloody problem. Trying to be all things to all men. It’s what that twat Blair did. He may have succeeded in getting into power but he did sod all with it – other than destroying the very country he was meant to be running!
If you’ve got nothing to say, don’t be a leader of the political party. And Cameron seems to have sod all to say as far as I can see.
Never voted anything other than Tory – but it will be UKIP next time.
GOOD, ANOTHER ONE VOTING BROWN BACK IN FOR THEIR OWN SELFISHNESS AND EGO. THEY ONLY WANT THE ENGLAND THAT THEY WANT, NO DIFFERENT TO BROWN AND LIEBOUR
It is no use saying, ‘We are doing our best.’ You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary.
An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.
Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.
It is a fine thing to be honest, but it is also very important to be right.
Great and good are seldom the same man.
The price of greatness is responsibility.
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
Perhaps it is better to be irresponsible and right, than to be responsible and wrong.
Solitary trees, if they grow at all, grow strong.
YOU HAVE ENEMIES? GOOD. THAT MEANS YOU’VE STOOD UP FOR SOMETHING, SOMETIME IN YOUR LIFE.
“When all this nonsense over MP’s expenses is over”,
you are an intelligent person.
now be even braver and take that final step to democratic enlightenment…
fuck dave, dave’s a dodgy c’unt; fuck gordon he is even fucking dodgier than dave:
find out which candidates standing in your constituency are independent from any of the parties, speak with them and if you find their views similar enough to your own then vote independent. simple. you might even have a list of requests for them to consider.
local democracy, innit!
we will not be going back to our democratic roots because our democracy been prevented from establishing good roots by the main political parties who rather than making parliament a more funcional, fair and efficient place have constantly abused their privilege to make gains for their party and its future.
the main business of the main parties has ofcourse been exposed and our representatives have been found guilty of milking the sytem for every penny the thieving c’unts could purely for their own financial gain aswell as offering all sorts of plum fucking jobs in quangos to their friends and relatives. the corrupt snf fucking useless inadequate motherfuckers should be hanged for their crimes against the citizens of this country.
they reall should.
independent MPs, however, will be directly accountable to only their constituents and their own consciences. a truly revolutionary reform of parliament.
political parties cannot be trusted and they are doing terminal damage to our democracy
VOTE INDEPENDENT – DO OR DIE
note to independent candidates: just listen to what your constituents say. be honest and try your best to be fair at all times. simple really.
note to main parties and fascist party: you c’unts have had your day. good.
Morning all, mum caught me wanking in bed, again, over that lovely picture of Gordon on holiday last year looking so relaxed in a sports jacket:
I tried to explain it was Charles who was guilty but she said she could only see one person choking the chicken over a saggy old failure, and that was me. She also said, ‘let go!’. Sounds like one of Hardwilly’s sign offs.
I should really stop messin’ abaaaht, as one of my limp catch phrases would have it.
Oh well, back to posting increasingly desperate dribble.
I am Comical Ali
Remind us again about “Coulsongate”, Baiter, we’re all gagging to hear about that. Purlease!!!
You fucking dirty little socialist. Are you all like this? If so it would explain why Darling has only just realised, again, that the banks aren’t lending.
Put your dick away and start doing somethng useful so long as your lot are in power, which thankfully won’t be for long.
And I note that Charles has not turned up for work yet. Pair of dirty little wankers.
Another Dr. Kelly job?
This girl knew something.
Who really sent the text message?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6730400.ece
Is this anything more than wild speculation? Any evidence? Thought not.
Of the above subject of Tory v Tory.
Blue Peter Garden.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a167576/bbc-denies-blue-peter-garden-axe.html
Hear that the Blue Peter Garden will be moved to Salford when some of the BBC moves to Salford Quays, in Hazel Blears constituency.
If Hazel loses her seat at the next election maybe she can get a job as a weather girl – or a “Garden Gnome”
it is very true that this government only builds in areas where they are in power. I live in a tory borough in outer london surrounded by two boroughs controlled by liebour. What a surprise thay have built a brand new walk in nhs centre in both those boroughs, with pfi ofcourse, but nothing in our borough. Needless to say both those liebour boroughs have a very high ethnic population too.
If the BBc think it was bad When Denis Wise vandalised the bluepeter garden Wait till they put it in Salford It Will look Like The fucking forests of Vietnam After the yank’s left !
Cpl Duncan was awarded compensation for taking high velocity bullets through his thigh and leg in Iraq in 2005. He underwent 11 operations and extensive rehabilitation, and has been fighting in Afghanistan in the Panthers Claw operation for this last three months.
Now bob’bustingagut’ is trying, through the courts, to reclaim the money paid to him.
Not only that but 2500 other men injured in Iraq and Afghanistan are struggling to get compensation for their injuries. many of whom are too badly injured to ever work again.
Fairness and generosity bob’notuptothejob’ eh??
Morning folks.
Words fail me!
Disgusting.
We’re talking about a few million to give injured veterans a comfortable life after they were injured in battle – it’s a rounding error in public spending terms but vital to these young men who will struggle through life unable to work.
I wonder if someone could persuade this brave man to stand against Bob Ainsworthless in the next election, he’d have my vote and no doubt thousands of others too.
We ought to all hang our heads in shame.
The poor buggers then line up at some filthy dirty NHS Hospital with all the plebs half of whom are Muslim patients or staff, waiting to be treated.
So not only are men and women cheated and starved of equipment, they then with their families need to fight for fair compensation if injured or killed, and deal with a totally unsympathetic hospital.
Should they survive all this they return to their wholly inappropriate inadequate MOD housing.
All our Servicemen and women need a medal just to put up with all the above.
Bob Crow, RMT, be careful.
Truly awful behaviour from a morally bankrupt ‘administration‘.
Fuck Brown and his bastard cronies.
Truly awful behaviour from a morally bereft ‘administration‘.
Fuck Brown and fuck the MOD.
p.s. What’s the problem with writing ban*rupt on here FFS?
Interesting I got modded using that word last night – couldn’t think what I’d said – now I know – thanks
Guido was once…
re you Gu1d0’s wife, perchance? Mrs STainz? You sure do have a strong maternal and paternal instinct and a lot of inside knowledge. Jist wonderin’
I see the BBC are starting a new series nell based on crimewatch maybe you would want to be in it – they are callling it DEATHWATCH. Maybe you could give DC some ideas about styuffing the dead baby and puttung it on show at 50 pence a throw to help boost teh part coffins ehr coffers. Shut the fuck up ya morbid old cow before you depress the lot of us.
Truth about Labours war crimes getting to you are they?
650 – Tell ya what does get to me – its their giving compensation to military personnel atall – they are not conscripts, they are professionals and as such they knew what they were signing up for. The latest shit is they have to be protected under the health and safety laws – a step too far, I fear.
Speedo – you are so wrong.
The Military Covenant – unwritten, but accepted by decent politicians and by the armed services.
It goes something like this. You sign up to serve your Country. Your Country feeds you, puts a roof over your head and trains and equips you. If you go through your service life without incident, you re-enter civvy street with self-discipline and a service ethos – and good luck to you. If your Country requires it, you may be put in harm’s way to defend the rest of the polulation. If you loose your life, the Country will do it’s utmost to treat your mortal remains with respect and support your dependents. If you are injured in the course of duty, the Country will do it’s utmost to support you and allow you to live out your life in dignity.
Seems a pretty fair deal to this non-serviceman. It’s a source of shame that this government has chosen to break parts of this covenant. May they hang their heads in shame.
But nowhere in that does it say that they are to be financially compensated – that is absurd! It is the filthy lucre, that is all.
You utter shit – men and women are being maimed to keep us safe and you consign them to a life of poverty and destitution.
How can you support a serviceman disabled in the course of duty without offering him the means to support himself?
The present system is far from perfect, but at least there is a system of sorts.
See my response to 702 below then get your apology ready
I have no intention of apologising.
For what did you refuse compensation?
Why do you demand that others – who may be in very different, more disadvantaged circumstances – do only as you wish?
734 – NEWS : Children in Corby get compensation after TEN years. Take the money from the professional soldiers and PAY the children…..or are you too much of an “utter shit” to agree with that? All you need to know nosey parker is that my principles are followed through by action….get a heart, get a consciience, get a brain, say NO to fascism and DC.
Your words are more like Steve Expat than Engineers – funny that, innit.
Socialist response to losing the arguement No. 1. Move the goalposts.
That’s the nearest I can expect to get as an apology from you – so I accept it in good part.
Using Paedo Sh*rts idiotic argument would be the same as saying police and fire service staff shouldn’t get compensation either. What a moron.
Engineer, spot on about the Covenant – let’s hope the judges in this case see sense and increase the payments to these brave men.
The amounts involved are a rounding error when compared to the money printing and business bailouts currently going on…
765 you ignorant hoon – apples and pairs – never compare them – fuck off ya dumbcluck
Oh dear, oh dear – guess you mean ‘pears’ – tragic.
I make a fair comparison and win the point.
love you to be in it. on the slab , post mortem filmed so we can see if the scots really do have a brain and to show every one what alcohol damage does to the alcoholic scots. that would be really nice, cant wait
Take your last sentence , insert some masculine expression for yourself, and then apply the sentence to yourself.
Have a nice day!
Deathwatch – is that a bit like the game they play in the Navy where they run a book on which famous people would have died by the time they return to their home port?
I dunno – I haven’t watch TV for a long time…its just a post Steve – not actually “real” as such.
Good morning Speeeedo. How’s the hangover today?
My cock hangs over my jeans as it does every day Stevette – fancy a suck do you?
655 A Scots cock would blunt the best knife, even a surgical one.
Tell that old bastard to stop using our soldiers as political pawns – in war there is an agreed consensus that such things are above party politics but with that old bastard not even a snail’s belly is above her.
PS – She may even be commiting an actual criminal offence of she persists
och eye the nooo just full of pooo
wish you would stop trying to depress us all. you could be committing a crime,scots people putting a traitor in 10 downing street
Aye remember Culloden………
speedo lad thats not cricket
eh – true enough freddie it isn’t cricket – but these subjects are supposed to be above party politics and she insists in glorying in it and gnaws away at it like a terrier worrying a rat. She does not have the moral high ground here freddie. I would be only too glad to stop responding to her if she would stop posting on such a distasteful subject.
YOU’RE JUST A CYBERBULLIE YA LITTLE FOOKER. I’M SHOUTING COZ I KNOWS YOU ARE DEAF AS WELL AS STOOPID.
Yes, and refused compensation for it too — so thanks for bringing the subject up – I would not have done so myself.
CLARIFY : I personally refused it – I DECLINED it – because I am socialist not an individualist, opportunistic money grabbing bastard (in other words, a tory).
Speedo unlike you the majority here cannot afford to be socialists.
We also have our pride and ambitions and don’t expect others to always provide for us and tell us what to do.
683 Spido Skirts. The distasteful thing about this subject is the shoddy behaviour of this govt towards are troops!!
They have sent men to war with guns that don’t work properly in that climate – without proper body armour – with inadequately armoured vehicles- with not enough helicopters , and then when those men start coming home injured, they make them queue at the NHS for treatment and make them fight for compensation through the Courts.
Stop posting on this subject? No I won’t!! – You don’t like the subject go to Labourlist – they’d be pleased to have you, they don’t get so many posters .
‘terrier worrying the rat’ – Thank you I take that as a compliment.
710#
Speedo, when you’ve served, when you’ve volunteered to wear your country’s uniform, like tens of thousands of other Scotsmen and women, then you can comment on the issue of compensation with some authority.
Until then mate, you dont know what you’re talking about and you are insulting men and women who have shown – and continue to show, day in day out – the kind of bravery that I would venture you will never ever know in your life.
Its got fuck all to do with being Tory or Labour, its got everything to do with honour, a debt of honour that between them the MOD and this administration have no intention of honouring.
I respect you’re entitled to your point of view, but on this subject brother you are way way way out of your depth.
893 – where do you get your information hag ?
THE PARTISAN PRESS ya stoopid old bat – that is where you get it.
if relatives of “our boys” want peace of mind and to forget their loss for a wee while they are certainly not going to get it here for so long as you’re about….GET A SENSE OF DECORUM you affront to femininity and fecundity.
11183 – Pontius, I formally studied ethics and morality – did you? Don’t be so arrogant with me or I’ll wash my hands of you.
Bit worried about you today Speedo. You posts are rather cruel and not really funny. Are you well?
I know you don’t mince your words, but you are often quite amusing. I might have to reconsider being your older woman – I know there’s a granddad around somewhere on this blog.
Remember I have your best interests at heart. Be still grasshopper.
emotional blackmail does not work with me I’m afraid – thank you for your interest in friendship
Speedo
You really are a very unpleasant person You claim you are Scottish but you bring shame to all the decent people who come from Scotland.
Dont generalise so much Sungeit – doing so makes ones arguments very weak and open to attack. Being a kind sort, I will resist the temptation to do that.
I was being very specific; judging by many of your postings you are an unpleasant person.
1280 – your personal opinions are your business – why burden the rest of us with them – do you want to hurt my feelings, is that what it is – okay then – just for you Sungei *ouch* -now fuck off.
784 Stevette – just please go away, will you – there’s a good girl.
I bet that next years MP’s expenses total the same if not more than this years !They have already introduced new claims to make up for the ones scraped the troughing WILL continue !
anybody see the dark lord with toenails last night – “we will have to take it from the behind” says Lord Clingonandonandonandon. Rear view mirror please. I really do despise that twat.
Despise the twat!!! Join over 90% of the population of the UK….. odious to the extreme. Another champagne socialist.
Higher, higher.
I’ve run out of things to say.
I just can’t think of any more bullshit to waste the readers time with.
Goodbye I am now going to top myself.
Belt and braces Charles.
Hang yourself after taking Poison.
Better safe than sorry.
Charles,
I never read you anyway.
Keep calm & carry on to the General Election, or Labour Wipeout Day as it known.
Regards
I have to correct you there,the GE will be known as ‘Fuckoff Labour day’
Charles –
Before you top yourself sign up here and pursue the values you express.
This is the right way forward for you.!!
http://www.conwayfor.org.uk/?gclid=CPjd4vq_-5sCFZgU4wodhCMK9g
They’re all bastards.
You mean Bastards by career not always by birth!!!
They’re not all bastards. there’s a fair sprinkling of fuckers, cnuts, arseholes and wankers mixed in.
and mental retards
and hoons lad
Charles i pay you to smear the tories not fill the site with boring shit about your fucking self.
Allo titfer ;)
Are you dead yet Charles?
RSVP.
I’m not sure. the arsehole is still twitching.
But can it operate the Key Board? Me thinks YES.
was he ever alive ?
Charlie is not dead I’m pleased to say but he is very tired today after last night I’m not surprised. He was playing Scrabble with some other boys late last night with his friends, at least I think it was because he said something about having an E, some H and some LSD and then there was something about MDMA which doesn’t seem to spell anything at all but I expect Mr Fawkes would know. Anyway he seemed very excitable but he was a bit sicky you know later on and now he seems half awake and half asleep.
Charles has been clinically brain dead for some time now,the result of attending too many Liebour party confrences.However using a scientific breakthrough we were able to keep his anus alive and have been able to introduce an artificial thought process to his ringpiece as you can tell from his posts there are miminal signs of thought.
Shut the fuck up |5p€d0|5h0rt5| before you depress the lot of us.
please do lad
He’s fooking deaf – doesn’t know he’s still rabbiting on. And on and on.
guess it shows the danger of drug abuse lad
That’s not cricket freddie
As ZaNuLabour are not allowed their Red Rag because of McBride, we now have Michael Dugher, John Woodcock and Michael Ellam using Speedo Shorts, Charles Hardwidge and Master Baiter as blog troll training for the new boys Simon Lewis and Ian Bundred.
They think they are disparaging anti-Brown comments, but it just reveals the extraordinary web of deceit/lies and the level of denial at the dark media spinning heart of No 10.
Please don’t stop, the sport is extraordinary.
Don’t forget wee ginger Jonty.
it shows that they dont give a fuck lad , they think we are stupid , some are but most are not , are mps human ?
Zey are not, Herr Fred. Zey were grown from a swab sample from behind Herr Dolly`s foreskin and grown in a culture at a secret facility in ze Brazilian jungle, designed to breed a new race of mastertrolls.
cheers lad glad that got cleared up
An interviewer asked Blinky if the polls worried him. He said “No, they’re doing a marvellous job on the kitchen in my second home.”
Well,Waad do you know.
i turn the tv off if balls is on the tv he reminds me of everything that i hate about “new labour”
Colson?? Colson? – Watergate – Nixon – seems to ring a bell
what bell is that lad ?
I asked that fat bastard Damian McBride what his favourite musical instrument is.
Can you believe he replied “The Dinner Bell”.
I will do the bell ringing around here if you dont mind.
James, you just keep on defending New labour and find out how many people are still with you in a month
You should have look at this to see Gordon election strategy
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/labour-manifesto-to-focus-on-bullying-injured-soldiers-200907281936/
and this is an even more frightening strategy that should go down well with the electorate
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1f005cf0-7bd8-11de-9772-00144feabdc0.html
where Peter Slowe, the chairman of the Labour Finance & Industry Group calls for Lord Mandelson to take over as prime minister!!!!!
Ahmadinejad is democratic pussy compared to Mandelson
I also was not aware that the law is currently being changed to allow former peers to stand for parliament, ending what would have been an obstacle to Mandelson’s plans.
Parliament uses the vocabulary of the criminal classes.
order order you slaaaaag
15 pints and a peadlo lad
A peado? No wonder your knees are shot.
In the interview with toenails on newsnight Mandy wanted the Labour party to be seen as ‘Insurgents not incumbants’. Choice words on a day when 4 British troops are brought home in coffins.
What a Prick.
that lose labour another thousend votes lad
Lord Mandybum of Boyes.
‘I want the british public to not think of Labour as some fuddy duddy incumbant government but as a dynamic force in the world.Maybe like an Exocet missile or a ME109 perhaps,even a roadside bomb would be good’.
Lord Mandybum of Boyes.
“I want the british public not to think” full stop
Maybe it’s because I’m super sensitive, but I just loathed the strategic placing of the ministerial red box, so that the TV audience could be in awe of the power of the mighty Mandelson – Minister of all he surveys (and master of none?).
after thinking about the latest smear story from labour list re watergate , i have come to the point that labour should be voted out of power for a long time , we need honesty , and we need mps with spines ( if thats possible), are the tories any better and what off the lib dems , labour lied on the eu treaty as did the lib dems , but do i trust the tories? no , he seems a decent bloke , but he needs to convince me and all the people he wont lie , would we belive the consertive manifesto ? or labours or the lib dems ? or are just so pissed of we wont them all shot and start again ?
A grizzled old engineer that I used to work with, a gentleman of considerable experience, once told me, “Never make a decision before you have to, lad. Wait until you’ve got as much information as you can get.”
I think that holds good with voting. Until nearer the election, when we can hear what the various candidates have to offer by way of manifestos, and judge (as best we can) their sincerity or otherwise, we can’t make a decision. We can wait, watch and take note, and allow what we learn to inform our voting decision.
And then, we have to choose from what is on offer. None of them will be perfect, because people are not perfect, so we have to make the best of what there is.
you are living in cloud cuckoo land engineer.
you do know that a manifesto is not a legally binding document, don’t you?
sorry engineer but it would appear that you do not and therefore you are talking out the back of your head.
the only way to ensure your voice is heard is to vote independent.
no matter how much you twist and turn there is no other way.
end of lesson.
If they ignore the manifesto then they will suffer as all liars do by not being allowed to do it again. Voting for independents who cannot have a manifesto is like buying a second hand car without asking the price. You really are a tit tat.
TaT read again what I wrote – “what the various candidates have to offer by way of manifestos, and judge (as best we can) their sincerity or otherwise”.
If they ignore the manifesto then they will not suffer as all party politician liars do not not because the parties have a monopoly and form a cartel against the interests of the electorate and in the interests of the corrupt party politicians and so are being allowed to do it again and again. Voting for independents is a much more demcratic propostition because the candidates will pay much greater heed to their constituents instead of the party whips.
Voting for a political party is like buying a second hand car without asking the price. You really are a genius tat.
that makes much more sense, innit. maybe you should run all your posts by me before you publish them or else you are going to continue to make a right tit of yourself.
happy to help.
worst retards,
tat
engineer,
read again my reply.
try to think about it before you rush to the keyboard.
I am only trying to help you be more intelligent. as an engineer you should appreciate that free training.
tat you still haven’t grasped the diiference between the Executive and the Legislature.
now you are just talking bollocks damian.
never mind hiding behind sweeping statements make your point or piss off.
good cripple.
I don’t fucking believe it: damian’s capilliaries is a fucking bird!
the fucker backed off; she has been overly butch with slightly strange phrasing which just didn’t seem right and she never made her point about the legislature and the executive, all those factors mean that she is definitely a woman.
now that is funny.
you’re a fucking bird you gobby c’unt!
you fucking wanker!
why the fuck do woman trolls post under men’s names and pretend they are men?
it’s fucking weird innit, really fucking weird when you think about it.
what the fuck is that all about eh?
Lock and Load!
Can anyone confirm this (which I read elsewhere)?
Gordon Brown wrote a letter to John Terry when he missed a penalty
Gordon Brown was “concerned” about the health of Susan Boyle.
Gordon Brown has never written to the family of any solider who died for his illegal war.
and i thought he was not into celeb politics oh you forgot about saint jade of gooody
Oh yes, the girl who became famous for doing something interesting with a wine bottle after having drank a few of them, and was best known as a racist bully….
racist bully should go down with gordon brown well then
Didn’t hear the wine bottle story. Is it something I don’t want to know?
Use your imagination Engineer, have a guess what a drunk and naked young lady might do with an empty wine bottle…?
I was unfortunate enough at the time to be going out with a girl who thought ‘reality’ TV was the best thing ever to happen, and was subjected to this rubbish for weeks on end :-(
Use your imagination Engineer, have a guess what a drunk and undressed young lady might do with an empty wine bottle…?
I was unfortunate enough at the time to be going out with a girl who thought ‘reality’ TV was the best thing ever to happen, and was subjected to this rubbish for weeks on end :-(
3rd time lucky with the mod so I’ll give up on the cryptic. She stuffed it up her cnut.
My girlfriend at the time thought it was great telly, funnily enough she was my ex girlfriend soon afterwards
bit picky for a tramp aren’t you steve?
I suppose you were upset because she kept wanting to stuff the bottle up her fanny and you, being an alcoholic tramp, wanted to drink the alcohol from it; a clear clash of interests.
I don’t fancy your chances of getting anymore pussy steve, after all who would want to go out with a crackhead hobo like you who smells of piss?
you shouldn’t have ditched that last bird steve: beggars can’t be choosers!
Weren’t enough bottle for her, Steve?
Wish I hadn’t asked now…..
Nope. That was ‘Kinga’, whose mother worked somewhere in the Gulf (and who became pregnant by her employer). A very happy, stable grounding for a girl who grew up to seek a page of history by pushing a glass bottle up herself on live TV.
‘Jade’ was a bestselling novelist and autobiographer.
AND correct me if I’m wrong – neither Blair or Brown has actually “welcomed”(if that’s the word) any of the coffins of our troops home when they land at Brize Norton or for that matter ANY “Senior” Minister is in attendance on these occasions (and someone may correct me but rarely for that matter any “junior” Minister either )
AFAIK no MP has been to any repatriations, there may have been a few at funerals though.
Dave Cameron, please make sure that under your government there is a Minister present at all these ceremonies – it is surely right that a representative of the Government be present when those making the Ultimate Sacrifice are returned to us.
Rest in peace, over 300 brave men and women in the past eight years.
I’d rather that they kept well away. Party politicians are by definition divisive, manipulative and controversial – none of these qualities are welcome at an emotional event where unity is more appropriate.
The best thing that politicians can do is to equip our armed forces properly, compensate them well if they are injured when serving their country and give their families decent living conditions.
And look what happened to the only pussy that Gordon ever stroked?
Downing Street cat Sybil dies
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5927190/Downing-Street-cat-Sybil-dies.html
The DT don’t say, but was it Mandelson that done it? The lovely Sybil probably put hairs on one of his expensive cashmere suits. Poisoned by a single glance?
It would be interesting to understand if some company like Game Changer Public Relations are behind the concerted troll attack on this site.
See:
Labour bloggers join forces to form digital consultancy Game Changer
http://www.prweek.com/uk/news/915558/Labour-bloggers-join-forces-form-digital-consultancy-Game-Changer/
The team:
- David Prescott, MD Previously head of media at Geronimo Communications. Former GMTV producer
- Alex Hilton, new media director Co-founder of LabourHome and founder of Recess Monkey blog
- Tom Miller, consultant Former editorial assistant on LabourList
- Jaan Arell, designer Has done work for the European Parliamentary Labour Party.
Perhaps they, or a similar agency, are using some ‘Labour-minded’ students on an internship and this may die down later in the Summer. You can see that some of the organisations mentioned above would mean only 1 or 2 degrees of separation from Draper, Jonty Pryor, etc.
Wonder if those students have considered how much cash they could get by ‘fessing-up to one of the dead-tree press…
They always resort to subversion and propaganda, being incapable of engaging in normal democratic political debate. The names of these projects are a give away, apocalyptic, full of hollow triumph, harking back to Soviet Communism which spawned most of the obnoxious red scum anyway. Their main attributes are taking themselves too seriously, vicious in-fighting, total incompetence when it comes to running anything, and proliferating in various guises on the BBC.
Fuck ‘em. The whole country is going to within the next 11 months anyway.
Ja. When zese trolls have matured in ze petri dishes zey are transported to Hoonemunde, loaded into V2 warheads and fired in the general direction of zis blog.
My calculations show ze trajectory will cause zem to impact on an irritatingly frequent basis.
Zat is why zis blog often has more trolls than a Norwegian Folk Festival.
Funny that. The link posted above no longer seems to work. Maybe it’s just my ISP playing up again.
This one does:
http://pr-chatter.blogspot.com/2009/07/game-changer-welcomed-to-fore.html
Currently, there are no comments. I’m sure that Ben Cotton would love to hear your musings.
Off Topic. Just been put off donating to the Sunlight Center in their campaign to prosecute Jackboots Smith.
Personally I think they should sue whoever the fuck taught them to spell. How can a high profile collection like that rely on such illiterate people to run their website. Perhaps they were educated in Nu Labia Britain’s Edjukashun System.
They don’t look serious enough to warrant support.
DT is reporting that Mandlebum says Broon will do a televised debate with Dave in the run-up to the next election
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/gordon-brown/5931226/Gordon-Brown-ready-for-TV-election-debate-with-David-Cameron.html
Please please may this happen, did Broon ever come close to winning at PMQs in the last few months? At least outside Parliament Dave can call him the liar that he is about the spending plans.
Never mind the debate, Mandelson, you slimy toad, just give us the fucking election.
My toad is a fire bellied toad. He catches flies on wing ( so to speak), a gorgeous little creature, puts mandelson to shame.
could i bear watching it though ? gordon on tv aint good at dinner time
why does cameron need to give brown this oxygen?
will he give him more rope to hang himself again.
if i was cameron i wouldnt do this. he doesnt need to, brown needs it more than cameron does
Cameron will come across way, way better on TV than Gordoom ever could. By the time this happens the manifestos will be out and there should be real policies to debate.
Gordoom will probably have hanged himself pretty well before then anyway, why the Party’s “Men in Suits” haven’t tapped him on the shoulder yet God only knows..
as I have just explained to engineer you dullard a manifesto is not a legally binding document. It is meaningless and not enforcable by law.
you are pissing in the wind steve.
but as you are a tramp I suppose you must do that all the time.
so that leaves cameron’s presentation skills. in short he is just like tony blair.
just fucking like him.
honestly steve you are such an ignorant puffed up moron it is quite incredible
you stupid fucking tramp. shut up steve you are making a right tit of yourself.
you imbecile.
Christ TaT..you are clutching at straws now.
We all know that manifestos are not legally binding,and have done since we were old enough to vote.
Have you only just discovered this Earth shattering fact?
They are a statement of policy,upon which the Electorate can decide which Party to vote for.
A Party’s dismissal of their manifesto pledges after winning an election would most certainly result in a crisis to end all crises.
Just shut the fuck up and have your SMA bottle.
how can a voter make a rational decision on who to vote if the document outlining policy is not worth the paper it is written on you cripple?
and you talk of the sky falling in if manifesto promises are not kept?
grow up.
in case you didn’t realise, our constitution has been trampled on for the last twelve years and so the failure by political parties to honour their manifesto promises is the next thing that will be the next dishonourable step taken by the parties.
indeed gordon brown’s barrister has already argued in court that the lisbon treaty requires no referendum because the labour manifesto is not a legally binding document.
have you got any better arguments to make straw clutcher or is that it, have you already shot your bolt? me thinks you are spent.
not very bright are you? rather dim infact.
TaT..I wan’t putting forward any argument…merely pointing out that your seismic shock statement of manifesto legality was no surpise to anyone…stating the bleedin’ obvious comes to mind.
Your SMA must be getting cold now,so run along sonny boy.
no, it is not obvious to the electorate that a manifetsto holds no water.
the parties defraud the public by insinuating that they will honour their manifesto and so my statement was an entirely worthy one to make.
now piss off you bloody dullard, you are a waste of space.
Tit for TaT,I say.
You are the brainless wonder,Sonny
Btw,TiT…you shouldn’t judge others intellect by your own painfully low levels.
Just because things aren’t obvious to you,it doesn’t mean that the same applies to normal people.
I guess you were bullied at school (still perhaps)..the scars often manifest themselves in people with a low anger threshold..especially when they can hide in anonymity.
as I am a genius I constantly have to remind myself how dim trolls like you are sonny.
but, unlike you I don’t waffle nonsense, I keep it simple so I am able to get down to a low enough level to communicate with a dullard like you.
you should thank me for making the effort.
I note that you are new here and so I will explain something to you:
I am top boy.
get in your place, ie back in your box: or stay out and play(get your fucking brains bashed out by the heroic and righteous thick as thieves)
the choice is yours.
good luck, you will need it motherfucker.
TaT…I am not new here.
I have been watching you for a long time.
You show all the symptoms of a disturbed mind…no worries…I don’t care about your kind.
Do you enjoy misbehaving?
Did your Father beat you?
Don’t worry..it will be soon time for you to go to sleep.
no no, sleeper is a new name here.
oh, so you had to change your name, was it because I bashed your troll brains out and publicly humiliated you? probably.
and now you come crawling back under a new pseudonym.
piss off slug.
This has gotta be the worst(and God knows he’s made a few) decisions that Gordon has made if he’s actually made it>It appears rather that Mandelson is kite flying again !!
1. A “sitting PM” is totally stupid to take on his Opposition opponent in a “live” debate
because he has everything to lose and his opponent everything to gain
2. Such debates for the majority will not actually hinge on policy – it will hang on how each person comes across on TV and to be charitable Brown is not very good at projecting a warm image and in this age of “celebrity” it’s what the majority make their decision on.Tough but that’s where we are
3. Irrespective of the above Cameron is trained in PR and Image he will make total mincemeat of Brown in any encounter.He knows which levers to press to get Brown to show his worse traits
This surely smacks of desperation on the part of Labour.Brown is their worst liability.It’s the main reason that they are doing so badly in the polls.His mere presence is worth thousands of votes to the Opposition !!
Yet again Labour have created a win-win situation for the Conservatives.
If Brown appears he’ll come across dreadfully and probably lose his temper.
If Brown pulls out (as expected), then DC will look the open and honest chap.
Further evidence of this government’s ineptitude. Hilarious.
Mandy is just posturing whilst gordon is in hiding.
No doubt he thinks he is going to be the architect of NewNew Labour when this present New Labour experiment finally collapses into a pile of ash.
I think Mandy’s theory is that Brown will be the challenger at the election rather than Cameron. A head-to-head usually benefits the challenger by giving him more credibility. Careful programming and control of Brown’s medication will, he hopes, lead to a better performance. They still think the Tories will be vulnerable at an election because they will have to say what their policies are but actually, like Blair, they won’t.
Fondlebum really does have it in for the Snot-Gobbler, doesn’t she ?
The Times is reporting otherwise :
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6731755.ece
lol – do you think all is not well between the PM and Deputy Dawg at the moment?
All part of Mangledbum’s masterplan to destroy McSnot.
if Labour List told you that DC (Dirty C’unt) as an ex PR man had used the death of his baby for political advantage you lot would believe it – so why am I get my balls chewed off for it?
coz you type a lot of shit ?
NOT freddie
the thing is you like to bully some people on here it looks pathitic at least thick as thieves does everyone equally and is consistant
No – the thing is that you ought not to be posting as somebody you are not – that’s what “the thing” is.
BECAUSE YOU ARE A LYING SCOTTISH C U N T LIKE BROWN YOUR BROTHER AND YOUR ARSE LICKER, DOES THAT HELP
no
Because not only is it untrue, it’s a very hurtful and vicious accusation.
David Cameron has tried as much as possible to keep his young family out of the media spotlight, and when his son died the mainstream media all respected his wish for some privacy to allow the family to grieve in private.
No media outlet (even LiebourLost) would dare publish anything of the sort for danger of being su.ed for li.bel
No wonder TaT has targetted you as a liar – now i see why.
tat = spaedo = liebore trolls
Because you are one and the same person? Thank God TwAT seems to have had the morning off today, obviously too much ‘medication’ last night…
Tat (for his sins) is an independent.
You seem very familiar with tats views. Wonder why?
coz I can read and comprehend – ever tried it yourself?
If you want to show that Dave used the death of his son for political advantage, you have to say what he could have done or said differently at the time.
823 – Opne another subject and I will pursue it with you – its getting far too messy.
I for one am disgusted that the tory trolls on this thread are using the death of David Cameron’s son to try and score political points.
that is the reason you are a scum steve. you really are a lowlife tramp.
you piece of shit steve expat. you make me want to throw up.
you are on the list crackhead.
thick as thieves is going to hurt you real bad.
scum.
Shut the fuck up you cnut – if you read what was written down you would see that I was arguing AGAINST the point you are saying I was.
And no, I’m not a Tory (for the umptenth time)
you are a liar steve and your posts are therefore worthless pieces of shit.
fuck off steve, you are scum who is trying to score political points fromt the death of a child.
you make me sick.
fuck off you lying lowlife scum.
it would not surprise me if you were the nasty piece of work who wrote those horribel posts about a dead child.
it would not surprise me at all.
Actually (as j smith would say),. it was me who started the thread about DC and his son. I consider that the experience of his relationship with his son could have deepened him as a person, and therefore he could be a more compassionate leader of the tories. That is the crux of it tat. There is no need to go in to attack mode about it. It was an innocent opinion, that’s all.
Because you are a lying, cheating ZaNuLabour serial apologist blog troll who wants to destroy this country more than you have done already.
Because you’re a witless, unfunny and unlettered c’unt.
“unfettered” dya mean?
The answer is ‘no’, you half-witted slack-jawed moron. You are unlettered, as is painfully obvious from all your pointless, poorly written and illogical posts.
Are you “See you next tuesday” who actually wrote the post?
The Tory campaign is a near identical copy of the Republican approach. They’re making a bunch of fundamental errors in policy and attitude. Their policies don’t add up and their people don’t measure up. Their solution? Press harder on the gas pedal.
The more the Tories insist they’re “right” and the more their desire for power seizes them, the more they’ll look like they’re losing the plot and chewing the carpet. Their ego is now so tinder dry that a mere breeze causes the tiniest of sparks to burst into raging flame.
med time charles ?
fuck off you stinking bastard you’re not freddie
now now lad
okay – jury’s out
Too late spuddy boy. The stumps have been shattered by another one of freddies reverse swing spells.
yeh – freddie’s very good whwe he is on his game.
It’s called the Zen of facing yet another defeat at the next general election.
Many socialists have the tragic illusion that by depriving private individuals of the power they possess in an individualist system, and transferring this power to society, they thereby extinguish power. What they overlook is that by concentrating power so that it can be used in the service of a single plan, it is not merely transformed, but infinitely heightened. By uniting in the hands of some single body power formerly exercised independently by many, an amount of power is created infinitely greater than any that existed before, so much more far-reaching as almost to be different in kind.
define “power”
Long before the Nazis, too, the German and Italian social-ists were using techniques of which the Nazis and fascists later made effective use. The idea of a political party which embraces all activities of the individual from the cradle to the grave, which claims to guide his views on everything, was first put into practice by the socialists. It was not the fascists but the socialists who began to collect children at the tenderest age into political organizations to direct their thinking. It was not the fascists but the socialists who first thought of organizing sports and games, football and hiking, in party clubs where the members would not be infected by other views.
It was the socialists who first insisted that the party member should distinguish himself from others by the modes of greeting and the forms of address. It was they who, by their organization of ‘cells’ and devices for the permanent supervision of private life, created the prototype of the totalitarian party.
Clear?
Oh I see, Spaedo is Charles’ little minder. Share an office do we Spaedo???
Furthermore…
There is, in a competitive society, nobody who can exercise even a fraction of the power which a socialist planning board would possess. To decentralise power is to reduce the absolute amount of power, and the competitive system is the only system designed to minimize the power exercised by man over man.
Who can seriously doubt that the power which a millionaire, who may be my employer, has over me is very much less than that which the smallest bureaucrat possesses who wields the coercive power of the state and on whose discretion it depends how I am allowed to live and work?
if you were a socialist at least you could do what I asked and define “power” – get an education before you come back here wasting everybody’s time.
The definition is there for those with the intellect to grasp it. Clearly you were not blessed with an astute mind by our Maker.
the rate of doing work – “amps times volts”
1038 – good guess but WRONG
Keep spinning Charles – you obviously beleive it.
The European Parliament, Local Council and Norwich North by-election should give you a clue, that whatever you write, it won’t matter in the end.
Keep it coming
‘their policies don’t add up’ = gordon’s in a hole and won’t stop digging
‘they’re losing the plot’ = Labour has already lot it. gordon’s answer to debt – keep spending
‘they’re ego is tinder dry that a mere breeze causes the tiniest spark to burst into raging flame’ = perfect description of gordon – kmaguire said today about gordon that when the red mist comes down gordon clears tables – including printers- with a sweep of his arm.
It seems that gordon and a number of other people associated with Labour need anger management courses. It isn’t the sort of childish uncntrolled behaviour we have a right to expect from those running the country.
Meanwhile, Labour continue to get under the problem and act as if the Tory party don’t exist. This helps focus all effort on getting the job done, and has the neat side effect that the Tories scream louder as their desperation for attention and credibility reaches ever more dizzying heights.
So much for “Cool Dave” and the Tories. They’re looking more like General Grievous and the Roger-Rogers every day. Master Jedi Gordon Brown is opening them up with his policy lightsaber like a can of beans. Heck, even the C3PO and R2D2 act of Darling and Prescott are cleaning their clock.
yes charles its pure fiction the stuff you write
now now freddie
namaste
To build a better world, we must have the courage to make a new start. We must clear away the obstacles with which human folly has recently encumbered our path and release the creative energy of individuals. We must create conditions favourable to progress rather than ‘planning progress’.
It is not those who cry for more ‘planning’ who show the necessary courage, nor those who preach a ‘New Order’, which is no more than a continuation of the tendencies of the past 40 years, and who can think of nothing better than to imitate Hitler. It is, indeed, those who cry loudest for a planned economy who are most completely under the sway of the ideas which have created this war and most of the evils from which we suffer.
The guiding principle in any attempt to create a world of free men must be this: a policy of freedom for the individual is the only truly progressive policy. Only the Conservatives can deliver this.
define “freedom”
define “Labour Party Troll”.
This really is your life Charles, posting this tragic crap.
It’s a dirty job Olaf but that’s the lot of the oppressed socialist minion.
PLEASE if you were a socialist at least you could do what I asked and define “freedom” – get an education before you come back here wasting everybody’s time.
a policy of freedom for the individual is the only truly progressive policy.
These are socialist words? I see I am being questioned by “Brain of Britain”.
The freedom to say the 2 and 2 make 4.
Waad is obviously a good student of Orwell.
To many who have watched the transition from socialism to fascism the connection between the two systems has become increasingly obvious, but in the democracies the majority of people still believe that socialism and FREEDOM can be combined.
They do not realise that democratic socialism, the great utopia of the last few generations, is not only unachievable, but that to strive for it produces something utterly different – the very destruction of FREEDOM itself.
As has been aptly said: “What has always made the state a hell on earth has been precisely that man has tried to make it his heaven.”
Vote anything but Labour. Even the Monster Raving Looney Party is a greater respector of the FREEDOM of the individual.
[significant word highlighted for the benefit of the intellectually challenged]
2 and 2 do NOT make 4 — go away and get an education, eh?
2 and 2 only make 5 in a Scottish off licence.
BTW
Stop it with the dead baby jokes OK?
Freedome
:-)
good one
All very interesting -as is Charles’ ramblings but what it all boils down to in essence come the election is that Labour will lose not so much because Cameron and the Tories have the answers- they probably actually don’t to be honest and will inherit a pretty dire economic situation – it’s because people are fed up with Labour after almost 13 years and in a recession people need to blame someone and it’s usually the sitting Government. In addition Labour is saddled with the worst leader for a generation.Major admittedly was pretty dire but I don’t think he was universally loathed by large sections of the electorate which Brown is whereas the Conservatives are led by someone who may not be as cerebal as Brown but is pretty slick at presentation and whom the camera and public seem to like(ok shades of Blair but never underestimate that “X factor” appeal which he,Clinton and seemingly Cameron have).Of course, whether this persona masks the Tory;s true character and the nastiness of the rest of his party is debateable but in modern politics image is king I’m afraid.Brown may be warm and approachable in private ; in public he is awkward and even when he tries to project a friendly persona he comes across as wierd.The deciders in the election will be women who usually don’t decide until pretty late in the day whom they’re supporting(men usually have decided already their party allegiances in adolescence and rarely alter them)and women feel uncomfortable with Gordon whereas they feel the opposite with Cameron.
That’s why the Conservatives are playing hard to get the descendant of Balir’s “Worcester Woman” – “Holby City Woman’s” support(Ad men love tags). Coulson knows they may decide the election particularly in the 200 marginal seats that will decide who forms the next government.
883 you give me bad vibes – like a paedophile or a serial killer. Go read a bible.
‘focus all effort on getting the job done’ = gordon hell bent on destroying our economy
general grievous and roger-rogers = gordon and mandy or mandy and gordon.
prescott as R2D2 = a short little fat tin can but with the brain removed – very apt.
I often pass out on the kitchen floor on top of spreading puddle of lager pee. Sometimes clutching printouts of the stupid words of Charles Cockwidget!
Do I?
I don’t remember …
must be true then
Our generation has forgotten that the system of private property is the most important guarantee of freedom. It is only because the control of the means of production is divided among many people acting independently that we as individuals can decide what to do with ourselves.
When all the means of production are vested in a single hand, whether it be nominally that of ’society’ as a whole or that of a dictator, whoever exercises this control has complete power over us.
In the hands of private individuals, what is called economic power can be an instrument of coercion, but it is never control over the whole life of a person.
But when economic power is centralised as an instrument of political power it creates a degree of dependence scarcely distinguishable from slavery.
Such is the legacy of twelve years of “New Labour”.
define “twelve”.
Your IQ ?
His age?
and that is the total of the scottish nation!
Wanna deathmask £.125 plus VAT – need a receipt Mister?
Sick, really, really sick.
You’ve plumbed the depths with these posts. Please desist.
TWO can play this game and YOU will regret it – not me YOU! :-))
Whats left over after Gordons big spend
822 – imposter post – disregard
As to be continued by the Tories no doubt!
I’ve got more homes than you can shake a stick at; I’m a greedy opportunist thief; I am working to get Sharia law adopted in the UK; I don’t give a stuff what the locals think – Englishness is so passé; diversity and multiculturalism are weapons in my hands and also my route to power and wealth; I have a first class air ticket to Bangladesh booked just in case Baroness Scotland of Yard gets on my case – she won’t, though as we go way back.
What’s not to like about me, guys? Say anything nasty and I’ll cry ‘rape’.
Wanna deathmask £222222222555567777150.25 plus VAT – need a receipt Mrs Baroness?
Fuck off, Speedo. That is seriously sick.
suddenly you’re not funny any more sir
And you are?
occasionally – but I have never insulted anybody like that – pack it in ya bassa
Speedo – you started it further up the thread.
Last night, you engaged in fairly rational debate without resorting to too many insults. That’s fine – we do debate.
Today you’ve declined the nation’s financial support to servicemen injured in conflict, and now you’ve used a politician’s family grief for political ends. That’s way out of order; there is no place for that in any field of human interaction.
If you are suffering from a mental complaint – please get some help. If not, then please go away and grow up.
If there’s any doubt about your starting it – see post 647 at 10:34am this morning.
No Paedo, you are not funny, ever, except perhaps in the dark recesses of your under-stocked mind. Your lack of wit and intellect degrades the quality of this blog. Your second hand saloon-bar ‘thoughts’ are meretricious and banal, and we would all be better of if you kept them to yourself. Stop polluting cyberspace and stay out of the gene pool. Just a bit of friendly advice, old chum.
You’re right Engineer – that proves it. Not only is he nasty but now he’s backtracking like the bully and the coward he is.
Engineer,
You are quite right about Speedo, some of the things he says are quite sick. We can have reasonable debate on this site but his postings and a few others make me wonder about the decency of a small minority of the British people.
914 – all that takes place ion your fevered mind – stick to the point ya hoon and pack in accusing me of posting as somebody else when you KNOW I have NEVER done that before EVER.
Give one good reason why anyone should believe you.
engineer shame on you.
it is far more likely that it was one of the tory trolls who made those noxious posts about dead children to try and score political points. that is so out of fucking order that whoever did it should have their hands chopped off so they can’t eve use a keyboard to repeat their vile campaign.
I think it is most likely that it was the tramp steve expat who made those posts about a dead child.
in fact I am certain of it.
tat, you sound more and more like Gordon trying to convince us that spending will rise – everyone knows that you’re talking complete bollocks but you carry on regardless in the vain hope that the people are stupid enough to believe the bile that comes out of your mouth.
Maybe if you stopped the stupid and viscious personal slurs, and concentrated on a rational debate about political issues of the day, you may find others here a little more amenable to you..?
fuck off tramp.
I have made more attacks on gordon brown than any other poster on this blog so don’t start trying me to compare me to a cretin like brownis beyond absurd. you are a failure and so you are the same type of person as gordon brown. thick as thieves is a hero so he shares no similarities to spunk buckets like you two wasters.
oh, and I am not here to be amenable I am here to get results.
but as you are a loser steve you just won’t be abe to understand the victory I am talking about.
you silly crackhead.
So what are these results you talk about? All I see coming from you is unfounded insults…
953 – I don’t care a toss what you believe – I am simply telling you (not asking you) to keep your fucking bile to yourself
Socialist response to losing the argument No 2 – personal abuse.
you better not be trying to smear me engineer or I am fucking telling you I will bash your fucking brains out.
understand?
Death Masks for Hire – great for Michael Jackson pageants – every one endorsed by the Daddy of ‘em all DAVID (call me Dave) CAMERON
Roll up, Roll up
Sick fuck
Yeah – was that sick I died – wanna deathmask £300.00 – need a receipt?
Spaedo smells as just bad by any other name.
How dare you
It’s certainly spaedo’s controversial trolling style. I wish he’d just fuck off.
This of course is precisely what damian and draper were planning to use the redrag site for –
And now because guido exposed them over that they are trying to contaminate guido’s site with the same sick rubbish, as a petty revenge.
I think there is also an unsavoury hint here of that mint humbug on legs – TWatson.
Away vile hag
Okay, we tell shitloads of lies over the usual weather forecasts but trust us on our forecasts for 2050. How else are we going to keep our well-paid, useless jobs and spanking pensions unless we push this global warming shite?
Won’t bother me I’m out of it – wanna deathmask £150.00 plus VAT – need a receipt mister?
Speedo – you need psychiatric help.
He was never remotely funny, now he is bang out of order. His service provider needs to be contacted to report abuse. They’ll disconnect him with luck.
I won’t tell you AGAIN
@872
GCHQ have an ISP?
No they’ll have their own T1 at least.
Can the moderator, please do something about these posts? They are sick and should be removed – the worst possible taste ever.
They’re absolutely brilliant Damian!
LOL! One forgets that this is the sort of smear that Red Rag was going to use in its “response to the right-wing blogoshere”.
I am with you granma b, those posts should be removed immediatley.
Guido, pull your fucking finger out.
Yes anonymous – well said – draper, damian, TWatson,edblls and cwhelan would all find this sort of humour amusing. The true face of Labour.
It would be ironic if Guido kept the records of these offensive (child) posts,and by chance they were traceable to Government sources.
Now..that would be a story.
fuck this wank, wet shithole, we’ll come back in the summer, maybes.
Weather won’t bother me I’m out of it – wanna deathmask £150.00 plus VAT – need a receipt cobber?
Sick, sick, sick.
yes fuckoff back to your wastelands we’ll keep the ashes here thankyou
Once upon a time in Great Britain.
In every real sense a badly paid unskilled workman in this country had more freedom to shape his life than many an employer in North Korea or a much better paid engineer or manager in Cuba. If he wanted to change his job or the place where he lived, if he wanted to profess certain views or spend his leisure in a particular way, he faced no absolute impediments. There were no dangers to bodily security and freedom that confined him by brute force to the task and environment to which a superior has assigned him.
Once upon a time before the Labour Party.
Shut your arse
A very totalitarian response.
even totalitariasn get frustrated by bullshit like yours – nay SAINT would get frustrated by bullshit like yours . just go away willya.
Are you drunk? I hope so,because if not then you are remarkbly stupid and aggressive. At least drunks sober up once in a while.
Are you drunk? I hope so, because if not then you are remarkebly stupid and aggressive. At least drunks sober up once in a while.
are you a poof?
Are you interested in such person?
not justa poof but a chink toboot HaAhhaaa!!!!
Whoever is doing the dead baby thing please STOP
It’s you. Turd.
“Its you” – said the fucker posting as “Anonymous” – what do they do for brains around here?
said the dead baby joker. sick
are you sexully obsessed with me – if so – fuck off
john prescott not been in the news recently, any one know what he’s doing or who he’s doing?
reminds me of tesco’s finest, he is liebour’s finest
When you see him, tell him to bring another scotch on the rocks.
He’s been told by me to keep his head down.
He’s not eating again?
No. He’s having a liquid lunch.
Naaa. ‘es givn’ me a right ole sandwich, tellin’ me ‘ow he used ter be Deputy Prime Minister. ‘es a right ole larf.
In the face of my intellectual superiority and the absolute truth of my views I see the Labourlost trolls have been forced onto the back foot. I preume they will be frantically googling the internet for answers. Should be quiet for a while then.
Time for a spot of luncheon. A takeaway perhaps?
Treat yourself to a pint son. You’ve earned it.
here have a knuckle sandwhich_________________________*thwunk*
Is this what passes for debate in your nation?
)!(
No, more generally a Glasgow kiss.
:-)
One last word on FREEDOM before the chicken chow mein arrives…
Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
To allay these suspicions and to harness to its cart the strongest of all political motives – the craving for freedom – socialists began increasingly to make use of the promise of a ‘new freedom’.
Socialism was to bring ‘economic freedom’ without which political freedom was ‘not worth having’. To make this argument sound plausible, the word ‘freedom’ was subjected to a subtle change in meaning. The word had formerly meant freedom from coercion, from the arbitrary power of other men. Now it was made to mean freedom from necessity, release from the compulsion of the circumstances which inevitably limit the range of choice of all of us. Freedom in this sense is, of course, merely another name for power or wealth. The demand for the new freedom was thus only another name for the old demand for a redistribution of wealth.
Sound familiar?
Never vote Labour again.
never did in the first place
the only Labour “people” I have come into contact with are spivs and sexual deviants
do I know you?
do you serve tea to the cabinet?
I’ll have an Earl Grey with just a ’soupcon’ of milk, a small lump of granulated sugar, and perhaps 2 McVitie’s digestive biscuits on the side, please.
Vote for me.
Thats life
only if you show me a vegetable shaped like a dick.
I can show you my dick its shaped like a vegatable – a cucumber!
green and rots quickly.
Gherkin?
nope – its got welcome to blackpool through it :-)
Microscope anyone?
It would be wonderful if I can show that in Parliament when I’m elected. The whole country is rooting for me (geddit???) and I won’t desert my adoring public.
Thank you, thank you. Another fan remembers.
Some people want to “win” so much that they forget proper form and attitude. No lie is too big. No punch is too low.
The Tories haven’t changed. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
Be still, grasshopper.
Unless we can make the philosophic foundations of a free society once more a living intellectual issue, and its implementation a task which challenges the ingenuity and imagination of our liveliest minds, the prospects of freedom are indeed dark. But if we can regain that belief in the power of ideas which was the mark of liberalism at its best, the battle is not lost. The intellectual revival of liberalism is already under way in many parts of the internet.
In ten months time we shall see freedom triumph over the evil that is New Labour.
Oh do fuckoff
Spaedo why not do some more dead baby stuff? That was really hilarious.
908 No it wasn’t. It was sick.
That wasn’t funny – may be it was YOU
I was being sarcastic Gran.
963: Just let us know next time you’re being sarcastic, then I won’t get on my high horse. I thought you meant it.
Is there an emoticon for sarcasm?
If your not sure FUCKUP
I think on balance I would prefer Cameron pretending to be Brown than Brown pretending to be Brown
Me too. And even Osborne is infinately preferable to Mandleson.
Just a couple of mistakes to rectify on this one:
Some people want to “win” so much that they forget proper form and attitude. No lie is too big. No punch is too low.
The New Labour War and Torture Party hasn’t changed. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.
Be still, smoke lots of grass. Be cool motherfucker, don’t be a boring pretentious arsehole like me.
Word up!
I think Hardwidge is a Tory plant – it’s the only explanation that makes any sense to me at all, because every time he posts his pseudo intellectual ramblings it surely has to be to Cameron’s advantage?
A question:why are you typing this bilge whilst cutting your lawn ?
http://www.grasshoppermower.com/support.php
Or is all this verbiage just herbage from your grass box ??
The question is for Charles Halfwit aboard his ‘grasshopper’ that won’t stay still.
Chas dear , we’ve been here before, several times, you are repeating yourseof again.
’some people want to win so much’ = gordon – he wants to win so badly he’s glued his fingertips to the reins of power – when his downfall finally arrives they will need a surgical team to extract him from no.10
‘no lie too big’ = there are enough helicopters in Afghanistan, we shall not cut spending on services after the next GE…………
‘no punch too low’ = bob’bustagut’ going to court to grab compensation back from injured soldiers
Wikipedia – Cyril Fletcher (25 June 1913 – 2 January 2005) was an English comedian; his catchphrase was ‘Pin back your lugholes’. He was most famous for his Odd Odes, which was a section of the television show That’s Life!. Fletcher had first begun performing the Odd Odes in 1937, long before they first appeared on television (though he did appear on pre World War II television[1]). He came up with the idea when he was short of material for a radio show. The first Odd Ode was a comic, yet sentimental, reading of Edgar Wallace’s war poem Dreaming of Thee. Following this broadcast he was given a regular programme on Radio Luxembourg; it was this show that brought him to national attention.
How unintresting
But I was the Star of That’s Life.
uninteresting = interesting
fuck the BMW Krauts!
I hear the doorbell ringing. Time for a quick thought before I tuck into my crispy pancakes.
Socialism has never and nowhere been at first a working-class movement. It is by no means an obvious remedy for the obvious evil which the interests of that class will necessarily demand. It is a construction of theorists, deriving from certain tendencies of abstract thought with which for a long time only the intellectuals were familiar; and it required long efforts by the intellectuals before the working classes could be persuaded to adopt it as their programme.
Now that they have and now that we see the results is it not time to wipe socialism from the face of the Earth?
So it is time the working classes demanded a general election from the ‘Son of Manse’.
Good posts HFC.
V for Vendetta is on BBC3 tonight. Perhaps some of the socialist trolls who inhabit this site may care to watch it and learn something.
Yessir it is. I shall get in a case and some crisps and stuff and shall be glued to the box. The labour trolls will be active here. They have no interest in freedom.
To make a totalitarian system function efficiently it is not enough that everybody should be forced to work for the ends selected by those in control; it is essential that the people should come to regard these ends as their own. This is brought about by propaganda and by complete control of all sources of information. Twelve years of this is enough.
Meanwhile, Labour continue to cause the problem and act as if the electorate don’t exist. This helps focus all effort on getting the job done, and has the neat side effect that the electorate scream louder as their desperation for attention and credibility reaches ever more dizzying heights.
So much for “Blairs legacy” and the world class public services we were promised. They’re looking more like General Grievous and the Roger-Rogers every day. Darth Gordon Brown is opening them up with his high intrest borrowing policy lightsaber like a can of beans. Heck, even the little and large act of Darling and Prescott are cleaning their cock.
I type this with fingers still sticky.
It may be that a free society as we have known it carries in itself the forces of its own destruction, that once freedom has been achieved it is taken for granted and ceases to be valued, and that the free growth of ideas which is the essence of a free society will bring about the destruction of the foundations on which it depends. There can be little doubt that the ideal of freedom has today less real appeal for the young than it has in countries where they have learned what its loss means.
See @ 962
Very true, Hake-san.
As Joni Mitchell put it, you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone. Too many of the post-war generation have sold their birthright for a mess of KFC and a copy of Heat. But they’ll learn. There are a few singularities in the pipeline (about 5 or 6, by my reckoning) which will put the pigeon among the cats, and sooner than some might think.
THE GENERATION GAME…
Lots of articles will pass along the conveyor before your greedy little eyes.
Just try to remember how many of them you charged to the tax payer.
When you redact all evidence you will get to keep them at your second home.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/5864406/Lord-Digby-Jones-ministers-like-Jacqui-Smith-are-not-fit-to-govern.html
Let justice be seen to be done and let the game begin.
Pop-up toaster
Electric Kettle
bath plug
washhand basin from habitat
telly for the bedroom
porn film for the telly
and finally
CUDDLY TOY….. for when you are in Prison crying your sorry eyes out!
Didn’t she do WELL !!!!!
I were a smashing dinner lady. Any lip from the nippers in the playground and I’d put them in 42 day detention.
have a heart squire, I’ve gots five guts to keep up.
Good Afternoon Campers
This afternoon, I saw a man in Tesco with his dick in a roll of toilet paper.
Fucking Charmin.
That was a tissue of lies
:-)
lol
Never darkened the door of tescos’ in my life. And never will.
I think Hardwidge is a Tory plant – it’s the only explanation that makes any sense to me at all, because every time he posts his pseudo intellectual ramblings it surely has to be to Cameron’s advantage?
He looks the image of Hazel Blears in his photos and I wonder if they’re related.
I agree. That’s the only logical explanation.
How come It’s all Balls @ 934 and Master Baiter @ 947 make identical posts within ten minutes, though?
CtrlC and CtrlV I guess
Labour and the Tories are indistinguishable.
Applying logic to the excretions of either party is just casting pearls before swine, Grandma B. ;o)
I’m sorry you didn’t agree with my pearls of wisdom, but I still say that the only logical explanation for CEH is that he is a Tory double agent.
I ask you, would the average voter want to vote Labour after reading the stuff he writes? No – he’s got to be a successful Tory plant – probably a Pansy or Narcissus.
I can’t understand why everyone to replies to his posts, that’s giving him what he wants.
But he has the same IP address as Master Baiter (the sorcerer’s apprentice) so no, I don’t think so. The strategy is merely to provoke foul mouthed responses so as to degenerate the debate on this blog. Typical left wing student union tactics.
I’m Comical Ali.
I am also one sad and dribbling little tadger.
As LabourLost Trolls go, you are the only one who actually believes in the crap you are required to post. In that respect you are comical.
said the tory troll.
Good insight. Everyone on this blog must desist from telling Hardwidge to ‘Fuck off’ with immediate effect – otherwise we are aiding and abetting his masterplan.
Can’t help myself – just one last time – “Fuck off Hardwidge back to Lieborlist and pedal your zen bollox there”
If you must respond try the truth. Plain and simple. That is the one thing they cannot deal with.
The New Labour Party to survive must gain the support of the docile and gullible, who have no strong convictions of their own but are ready to accept a ready-made system of values if it is only drummed into their ears sufficiently loudly and frequently.
It will be those whose vague and imperfectly formed ideas are easily swayed and whose passions and emotions are readily aroused who will thus swell the ranks of New Labour.
But faced with the TRUTH they are cowered into reticence.
I am a cock, even that dickspittle George Laird makes a more meaningful contribution to life than me.
I make lots of posts, therefore I have nothing better to do.
Hardwidge is a Tory plant. And I am a cock.
I’m a completely irrelevant bore!
you saddo
Think positive. You inspire the rest of us to insult you. I’ve chucked my knitting needles away since you came into my life.
Why is Mandlebum on tv talking as though his evil cartel hasn’t been in power for the last 12 fucking years,great plan convince us the wreckage of our country was nothing to do with liebore and they’ve got all the ideas to put things right.
C.U.N.T.S
UK economic
miracleshithole:German consumer price inflation(CPI) in July -0.6%.
UK CPI now 2 to 2.5 percentage points higher than eurozone average.
what was it under the tories again?
generally women. yuk!
I need to go out for a wee whil but whilst I deny it was me who did the DEAD BABY CAMERON thing I stand by everything I did say about Cameron exploiting his baby’s death for party political advantage. Anybody wanna argue with me on it – bring it on – I will answer when I get back.
PS – if anybody post sunder my name – it is NOT ME – for at least the next couple of hours,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I thank you, S Shorts Esquire.
are you coming around to play doctors and nurses with me,i could use a rectal examination.
I can’t be arsed.
I thought Cameron did no such thing. Disgraceful slur. There’s a job going for you on LabourShit.com
Be a MAN and come off of your escapist’s cloud of unreality.
It’s official folks. I am a low life nobody.
..and proud of it.
I wonder if “thick as thieves” will be not posting in the next couple of hours or will he, also, be down the bar getting tanked up?
don’t be cheeky damian or I will cave your skull in.
Ah – that’s better – a nice fresh pair of steampants makes me feel a million dollars! Now, where were we?
Yeh that’s it I remember — Damian you’re a c’unt
Stupid tosser.
Is it dole day today?
SS, I disagree with you profoundly this time. Wrote a post above to explain, but it seems to have got lost.
Contessa, I know more about DC and the events surrounding his sad loss than my granny would know had it befallen me…he advertised how he would be taking time off …he advertsed the times when he would be due back…he advertised who would be his stand-in…..he did talks that would not have shamed Blair’s “People’s Princess crap”. During that whole period he was never on the telly more…he even got the Priiem Minister to join in – mind you Brown had his own “little tragedy” and HE advertised THAT just as ruthlessly. Politicians are not like the rest of us – they are pubic figures – people’s liveliehoods depend on them fulfilling that role. Teh rightesous do not pray in public but PR men liek Call ME Dave most certainly do. Can anybody say my facts are wrong?
Those are not facts merely opinion, twisted to support your biased view of the Conservatives.
You still need to make an act of contrition with regard to the shocking “dead baby” posts.
Yes they are.
1187 and 1308 – not a brain cell between them.
Well, SS, lets leave it at that. We don’t always know what happens in a person’s life. We only get information from the media.
I’d like to give him the benefit of the doubt. I’m an exceptionally cynical person, but we do know this episode really happened in his life, and to him and his wife it must have been a terrible tragedy, particularly because his son was handicapped.
Unfortunately I also disagree with you about compensation for injured soldiers. The government sent the soldiers to battle and should take the responsibility for their injuries, body and mind. Scots have been the backbone of the British Army for centuries, but it wouldn’t be difficult to find many Scottish ‘old soldiers’ living in hostels and lying about the streets of London etc because nobody cared to help them when they came out of the army.
SS
As a father, grandfather and human being I know your facts are wrong. No parent would exploit the death of their child in the way you are suggesting.
Just because I said they [soldiers] should not be exotically compensated is NOT the same thing as saying they should be allowed to starve in the street – that is an unfair charge to level against me. And Sungei, being a grandfather does not make you God almighty – you might still be wrong, you know!
Not God, just someone with a sense of decency.
العضو التناسلي النسوي
Que?
Easy peasy, I’ll explain later.
The Tories don’t have policies that are fit for purpose and they haven’t reformed. That’s just a by the book analysis but instead of learning the lesson they’re sucking even harder on their crackpipe. And these people want to run the country?
Fu..Fu..Fu..Fu
Oh Bugger – excellent and well argued post Charles.
Yours sincerely and respectfully
I A Balls
Charles is a Tory plant, he must be. Every time he posts his dreary cock scrapings, someone else leaves the Labour fold!
Perhaps the most alarming fact is that contempt for intellectual liberty is not a thing which arises only once the totalitarian system is established, but can be found everywhere among those who have embraced a collectivist faith. The worst oppression is condoned if it is committed in the name of socialism. Intolerance of opposing ideas is openly extolled. The tragedy of collectivist thought is that while it starts out to make reason supreme, it ends by destroying reason.
For these reasons Labour cannot be allowed to continue. Our very liberty is at stake. Watch V for Victory tonight on BBC3 at nine and you’ll understand what I mean. Get some beers in as well.
You say: “Intolerance of opposing ideas is openly extolled.”
Then you say: “For these reasons Labour cannot be allowed to continue.”
Self-awareness has never been the Tories strong point. Perhaps you’d like to think about that.
Be still, grasshopper.
You think intolerance of opposing views should be allowed to continue?
Thankfully such arrogance will soon be a thing of the past.
Bring on the General Election and allow opposing views. We shall then see.
The obliteration of Labour and all its evil works is indeed a necessary sacrifice in the pursuit of liberation, truth and freedom. After 12 years of criminal misrule the socialist mindset is “unacceptable” and we must “send a clear message” to those enemies of the people who still promote it by criminalising them.
Socialism to succeed must appeal to a common human weakness. It seems to be easier for people to agree on a negative programme – on the hatred of an enemy, on the envy of the better off – than on any positive task. The 50% tax rate is an example.
The first task of socialists is to decide on “the enemy of the people”…
National Socialists decided it was anyone who wasn’t Pure German
International Socialists decided it was the anyone who wasn’t pure Working class
Trans-National socialists decided it was anyone who was White, male anglo-saxon and/or protestant.
John Carpenter’s classic 1982 remake, “The Thing”, is on ITV4 @ 22.05.
Shame it clashes with “V for Vendetta” because it’s a nice allegory of marxist infiltration and a better film.
I suggest recording the former. V for Vendetta is best watched “live” and I recommend you get in lots of cheese ‘n’ onion crisps and some cans of Theakstons before it starts. There are no breaks for adverts on BBC3.
I suggest recording both if you don’t have them already – otherwise this space will be even more of a trolls’ playground and test area tonight.
Labour don’t have policies that are fit for purpose and they haven’t reformed. That’s just a by the book analysis but instead of learning the lesson they’re sucking even harder on their crackpipe. And these people want to run the country?
Is it true your’re closely related to Hazel Blears?
It is not difficult to deprive the great majority of independent thought. But in the mind of the socialist the minority who will retain an inclination to criticise must also be silenced. Public criticism or even expressions of doubt must be suppressed because they tend to weaken support of the regime.
This is why the Labour Party hates the internet in general and the blogs in particular.
Yep, Blogs tell the truth.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”: Joseph Goebbels
I stand by the sick shit I post, in the same way that I beat my wife senseless every time she overcooks my dinner.
To be a useful assistant in the running of a totalitarian state, a man must be prepared to break every moral rule he has ever known if this seems necessary to achieve the end set for him. In the totalitarian machine there will be special opportunities for the ruthless and unscrupulous. Yet it is through such positions that the road to the highest positions in the totalitarian state leads.
Such is the morality and motivation of a Labour Party Troll.
Wife Beater: that’s it, our relationship is over. What has got into you today? You seem like a different person.
Stellar Artois does strange things. Makes a man’s cheeks red and a woman’s eyes black.
said the alcoholic wife beater.
said the playground bully
TOP BOY TO YOU SLAG!
DON’T YOU DARE FUCKING BACKCHAT TOP BOY YOU C’UNT!
oh, and damian, don’t copy my lowercase thing you cripple.
that’s my gig motherfucker come up with your own stuff, don’t copy mine.
thankyou.
GB re SS, I think he’s got ontological problems.
Why don’t you post something really sick like what really happened at that small town, where Andy Murray comes from or what happened to the suspects in Operation Ore or what do the Yanks/Security Services really have on T.Blair/G.Brown et al besides the obvious, being closet homosexuals.
THIS is NOT me.
So Brown did bottle it!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6731755.ece
Of course he did. He’s a spineless and horrible creature.
imposter post -disregard
What the difference between Diageo and Brown?
Brown is still a scotish bottler.
What an utter fucking Gaylord is McTwat! That’s it for this post – we all know where it goes next.
Was that a record for bottling out on an idea? Even for the useless mentalist, it was quick.
I do wonder if Mandy isn’t toying with him in order to extract delicious revenge for past slights.
That seems likely. Otherwise either Mandy is losing his touch, or Brown said that he would take part in a debate and then changed his mind when the medication wore off
Do you think for one moment Brown was actually consulted before “Prime Minister”Mandelson briefed the press on the matter????? Get a grip Mandelson runs the country NOT Brown!!.
But it appears that even the “First Lord Secretary” couldn’t stop Brown gibbering in fright at the thought of facing Cameron in a “live TV Debate” and so the necessary statement that “His Gracious Lord’s” words had been grossly mis-quoted by tacks” had to be issued.
“Tacks” ??? I meant “hacks” “Tacks” are sharp unlike “hacks”who fall for Mandelson’s Spin
Sky are still leading with “PM agrees live TV debates” and have just shown footage in newsof Mandelson stating the idea is a goer and Cameron responding favourably – so who is correct ?? The Times or Sky News ??
Mandelson is low life. Went to say good morning to my little ‘fire bellied toad today. He looked up at me with those innocent round part yellow eyes; he was perched on a small red stone taking the sun. He caught in a flash a passing fly. Suddenly he reminded me of someone, but I just couldn’t think who. It came to me all of a sudden. Of course it was mandelson. One quick spring, a flash of the tongue and the fly was gone.
I think the gorgon should be on his guard. We might get rid of one nightmare, only to have him replaced with another!
Mandleson has come to realise that Brown doesn’t cut the mustard and is a serious electoral liability. One detects he is maneuring into position to assume control officially. He will stab Brown in the back if he believes it is for the good of the Party.
Mandleson has stabbed men in the back before.
The difference between Conservatism and New Labour is the same as between 1) providing signposts and 2) commanding people which road to take.
There are many paths and I for one do not want the State to tell me which one to take.
The General Election cannot come soon enough.
It’s the difference between being a slave and being your own owner.
The journey of a thousand miles begins beneath your feet, and socialists want to tax your feet!
Nuff said
جوردون براون هو استمناء القرود
ماجستير في المطعم هو غبي حمار
Master of the restaurant is a stupid donkey??????
If anyone wants a laugh, read this, in which Maquire claims Gordon doesn’t throw phones…..
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/07/29/gord-s-fighting-chance-to-strike-a-killer-blow-115875-21555106/
In other news, I’m bored with the weather and even more bored with New Labour
Is it just me,or do I detect a hint of CEH’s verbosity in that article?
Could it be that they are one and the same?
Dear All
For a considerable time I have been highlighting that George Osborne is a loser.
I have also taken a ton of abuse from Tory wankers on here for getting the message out.
It seems that finally my message is getting through;
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2009/07/25/does-osbornes-background-rule-him-out-as-a-cutter/
and here;
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/5226673/calm-down-calm-down.thtml
I am always right about these things.
Now say thank you Tories.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
So the Civil ‘Service’ is trying to save money :
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6731114.ece
It would make a lot more sense if they simply axed the jobs. It’s big government that’s killing this country.
Dear All
For a considerable time I have been highlighting that George Osborne is a loser.
I have also taken a ton of abuse from Tory tossers on here for getting the message out.
It seems that finally my message is getting through;
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2009/07/25/does-osbornes-background-rule-him-out-as-a-cutter/
and here;
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/5226673/calm-down-calm-down.thtml
I am always right about these things.
Now say thank you Tories.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
One thing is growing obvious, Across the complete Labour spectrum, from ars*holes to Zanu, Labour commentators in all types of media are giving the message of impending doom associated with a Tory election victory.
No defence of their record for the last 12 years, no ideas on how to reduce the black hole of debit they have created, no admission of any mistakes made during that time. Indeed, no recognition that they have been in power for the last decade, every problem is still Thacher’s fault.
The Labour party must think this is a worthwhile activity, otherwise, why would they do it?
The thinking must go along the lines of “If we can make the bulk of British electors so disillusioned with politics, they will not cast a vote and the lower the turnout the less we will be damaged” They may be right, but I wouldn’t bet against the rise of a “Destroy Labour Forever” party just to hoover up all the “none of the above” voters.
On reflection, that has quite a positive sound to it. I am sure canvassers for the Destroy Labour Forever party would get a better reception on the doorstep than those for any other candidates.
We are a nasty bunch of bastards at Labour, you know this!
In order to achieve their ends New Labour must create power – power over men wielded by other men. Their success will depend on the extent to which they achieve such power. Democracy is an obstacle to this suppression of freedom.
As Cameron would say “Too many twits make a twat !!”
Theses Zanu tapeworms know that political praziquantel (Biltricide) is coming, and their days of leaching upon the country are coming to an end.
Some of the best posts coming from hake fried rice. Do keep it up – the usual suspects are on the back foot and screaming, froth-lipped, via their keyboards.
You touch on the very essence of the problem in this land. The problem that is Labour, the Gnarly Thieves of Our Freedom, the Fascist Scum, the Blood-Sucking Twisters of Truth, the Purveyors of Political Correctness, the Enemy Within, the Blood-Dripping Hands of the Socialist Super State, the Oppressors of Conscience, the Silencers of Free Speech, the Spies of Free Thought, the Cack-Handed Incompetent Cretins of Mismanaged Government and Squandered Fortunes, the Wasters of Millions, the Simply Wasters, the URG Boyars of Unintended Consequences, the War-Mongering, the War Criminal, the Islamo-fascist Appeasing, the Loud-Mouthed, Arrogant, Opinionated, Self-Serving, Self-Regarding, Penny-Pinching Mean Minded Scotch Scrooges (George Galloway is One of Them) of the Glasgee Left, the Murderers of Young Soldiers, Labour, New Labour, Socialists, Lefties, Lefto-Fascists, Sandal-Wearing, Bearded, Lentil-Eating, John Lennon Bespectacled, Wedge-Headed Marcus Brigstocke, BBC Infesting, Bloated Quangocrat, Bullying, Shit For Brains . . . . . . . . Communists.
Yes, but why does he hate fried rice?
Sir William, your new ear trumpet has arrived. YOUR NEW EAR TRUMPET. HERE. NOW.
I prefer the purity of steamed. Frying removes the delicate fragrance of the the rice but more to the point, it prevents the flaking of the grains so that one is presented with one congealed lump as opposed to a dish of separate cereals.
In much the same way, Individualism, in contrast to socialism and all other forms of totalitarianism, is based on the respect of Christianity for the individual man and the belief that it is desirable that men should be free to develop their own individual gifts and bents. This philosophy, first fully developed during the Renaissance, grew and spread into what we know as Western civilization.
I’ve developed my bent.
Not bending spoons again are you? You know it’ll all end in tears.
Aw, come on. People were eating lentils way before NewLabour. And wearing sandals and beards.
No problem with the rest of your glorious diatribe, tho’.
The problem with the New Labour Party is this. Well-intentioned socialists, if they are honest people, should be able to appreciate that reaching into one’s own pockets to assist one’s fellow man is laudable and praise-worthy. However, reaching into another’s pocket to do so is theft and by any standard of morality should be condemned.
Remove those thieving hands from your pockets; vote for anyone but New Labour.
Bring forward the General Election and let the people speak. Brown said he was ready to listen did he not?
He did. If he’d started to listen earlier, he may be a bit more popular now.
Brown never gets himself into a position to listen to anyone who might have an opinion different from his misguided doctrine (which is stay in power at all costs)
He has not been buttonholed by a member of the public since coming into power. Only Daniel Hannan has had that opportunity.
Master Baiter admiress Kim Jong-Il and Gordon “Great Leader” Brown listens to his subject with the same ears.
Well said! And from someone not seen on here before today
HFR’s contributions have been very good today.
He’s explained very well the evils of socialism – a perverse ideology incompatible with human nature and inimical to all that is good, honest and decent.
As can be seen from the trolls here, it’s only espoused by the ignorant, the irrational, the mentally impaired or political careerists.
bollox!
is that your real name Marx?
yeah, come on, play the white man Marx!
Few people recognise that the rise of fascism and Marxism was not a reaction against the socialist trends of the preceding periods but a necessary outcome of those tendencies.
It is significant that many of the leaders of those movements, from Mussolini down (and including Laval and Quisling) began as socialists and ended as fascists or Nazis.
Could it happen here?
An excellent summary.
Your definition unfortunately precludes the existence of well intentioned socialists.
All socialists want to steal money from your pockets and therefore can only be defined as malevolent. Much as we find in real life.
Perhaps Sir William could forward his old ear trumpet to Twatboy Grim, that a British artisan might refurbish it, thus restoring some semblance of the Prime Inadequate’s previous aural performance?
Just when things are calming down and the press are being positive Cameron opens his mouth and runs people down. Put next to Osborne’s pettiness this looks a little deliberate and suggests to me that the Tories would rather talk Britain into a recession and fuel hysteria than focus on fixing things.
But, what else can people expect from a nasty and directionless party like the Tories? No wonder sensible leaders are deserting them.
Jeez, just let it go.
You don’t read the papers, Charles, so I guess it’s hard for you to keep up.
Labour members are deserting their party in droves. You only have to read the labour comments to see that most of them are not happy with Gordon and the way in which the country is being run.
Perhaps your efforts would be better spent trying to preach the Labour gospel to those people. You’re wasting your time with us.
Extolling the virtues of the shark in the swimming pool whilst pointing out the foolishness of the barking dachshund in the next door garden will not fool the other swimmers, Troll.
Just when things are calming down and the press are being negative, Gordon Brown opens his mouth and runs people down. Put next to Brown’s pettiness this looks a little deliberate and suggests to me that the New Labour War Party would rather talk Britain into a recession and fuel hysteria than focus on fixing things.
But, what else can people expect from a nasty and directionless party like the New Labour war criminal party? No wonder sensible leaders are deserting them.
Jeez, I just let it go and followed through. I have to go and clean myself up, excuse me.
Advancement within New Labour depends largely on a willingness to do immoral things. The principle that the end justifies the means, which in individualist ethics is regarded as the denial of all morals, in socialist ethics becomes necessarily the supreme rule. There is literally nothing which the consistent party activist must not be prepared to do if it serves ‘the good of the whole’, because that is to him the only criterion of what ought to be done.
Charles’ task within this mechanism is to spread lies on this blog.
I would extend your condemnation for the need for immoral actions to any party that uses a whip system to control their MPs.
That’s newlabour for you.
Charles, Charles, Charles as you are a leading No. 10 apologsit blog troll and purveyor of untruths it is a little rich to accuse anyone but New Labour of personal attacks.
Just look at the web of lies that were spouted by labour at the Norwich North by-election.
Here’s a newsflash, the economy is really bad and it is not going get better for years. Spending more when you are up to your eyeballs in debt will only make things worse.
Keep spinning, but don’t expect any of us to take you any more seriously than a bit of wind-up sporting fun.
basically – you are pathetic
The new labour government had announced the ‘invention’ of 47000 new jobs for young people to help them avoid unemployment. This new, updated ‘invention’ exceeds all other ‘inventions’ and is purely a grotesque way of fiddling the real toll of unemployment in the self-induced Gordon Brown as chancellor and then unopposed prime minister world in which we live.
Fuck off new labour is what I say
All these newly created jobs are presumably in the public sector. That means more of a drain on the already stretched finances.
Nothing has been mentioned about how we are going to pay these people. It’s a well known fact that the country has no money – unless he’s going to print more!
We won’t be paying them I suggest – they will probably be classed as in the “voluntary sector” and those involved will still be able to draw JSA and other benefits but for this category they will be “moved off”the unemployment register conveniently until after an election
It’s what you are told if you go down the local Job Centre Plus – Why not re-train(for what ? There are no jobs even after you’ve re-trained unless you have 12 monthe relevant experience and of course you can’t get the experience unless you get a job which you can’t get unless you’ve got 12 months experience )or try the “Voluntary Sector to improve your skills and CV(unpaid but will not affect your benefits etc)Catch 22 lives on in the Labour Government (Un) Employment Opportunities Scheme
why don’t we get these dole scroungers doing our recycling for us or working as bin men or litter collecters?
the last thing we want is for the state to have these wasters looking after children or other positions that require responsible adults and not dole scroungers.
that would put the public and their children at risk.
just give the scroungers the shit jobs innit.
it is all the job dodgers are good for. when they have proved themselves then they can take the next step up the ladder.
says the bloke who spends his life on this website
Bloody Hell tat, is this going to be the first time ever that you and I agree on something?
I say 6 months max on the dole, then you can work for the local council maybe 20 hours a week in exchange for your ‘benefits’ – there are always streets to clean, grafitti to remove and bins to be emptied, let’s get people taking a pride in where they live.
Sometimes there is a pearl in the oyster. But mainly there is just a squidgy mess and sand.
You have GOT to be joking….some of these scounging lazy fuckers think it is their right not to have to work…..they think those of us who work are suckers. You’ll never, ever persuade them to do any kind of hard work. It’s been bred out of them by more than a decade of Labour benefits culture.
And if they can’t get their money from the dole, they’ll get it from crime..after all…what if they get caught? They have an army of social workers to write reports for them….they’re not allowed to be jailed unless they kill a few people…a smack on the risk and they’re back nicking again….
Don’t want the lowlifes that hang around our local Magistrates’ Court coming down my street. Not sure what we should do with ‘em – shame transportation isn’t still an option.
is this what they mean by kiddy fiddling?
Dear fellow freedom lovers,
Treat yourselves to a two hour break tonight from the inane socialist, pseudo-Buddhist ramblings of Charles E Harwidge.
I recommend this film as a reality check.
V for Vendetta
Wednesday 29 July
9:00pm – 11:05pm
BBC3
This adaptation of the graphic novel by Alan Moore and David Lloyd marks the full feature debut of James McTeigue, best known for his work as assistant director on the Matrix trilogy. His former collaborators, the Wachowski brothers, also assume writer/producer duties on this thriller set in a near-future totalitarian Britain, where an enigmatically masked vigilante called V (Hugo Weaving) ignites a revolution with the help of unlikely ally Evey (Natalie Portman). It’s by turns an audaciously risk-taking and clunky curio, featuring banned Muslim texts, avian flu, Tube-bomb terrorism and pro-gay manifestos, and it has an oddly empty atmosphere reminiscent of TV’s The Avengers. Forget Portman’s wavering accent, the predictable Brits fleshing out the cast (John Hurt as a Big Brother-style leader, Stephen Fry as a gay TV presenter) and Weaving’s unmoving Guy Fawkes mask – McTeigue’s preachy, over-serious polemic still delivers a stunningly executed and movingly relevant ending.
If you haven’t seen it then you really must. You will never vote Labour again.
We’ll have Mandelson saying its a New labour film because it champions “insurgents, not incumbents”
Thanks for the tip – has been on my list to watch for a long time.
Somewhat surprised it’s made it on to the BBC.
BTW, never voted Labour in the first place!
It has probably been slipped into the schedules while the middle management socialist controllers are enjoying their unearned rest in the Bahamas.
Let us hope Lord Protector Mandleson does not have it pulled.
Dear Troll
That film is shit.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Any socialist cog would say just that.
Ignore him, he’s a one-Scot vendetta machine with the wits of a turnip.
DrSlowe, chairof Labour Finance has said today that making mandy Leader is the only war for Labour to win the next election. Questioned, mandy declined to rule this out!!
DrSlowe says mandy has charisma. ++laugh++
He sure has, easily as much as a cowpat!!!!
Interestingly, the law at the moment is being changed to allow Lord’s to resign their titles in order to stand as MP’s.
well of course I didn’t mean war I meant way – apologies
As I said earlier, at least Ahmadinejad had the good manners to have an election before his coup.
Like Caesar refusing the crown.
The totalitarian leader must collect around him a group which is prepared voluntarily to submit to that discipline they are to impose by force upon the rest of the people. That socialism can be put into practice only by methods of which most socialists disapprove is, of course, a lesson learned by many social reformers in the past. The old socialist parties were inhibited by their democratic ideals; they did not possess the ruthlessness required for the performance of their chosen task.
Step forward Lord Procter Mandleson. Cometh the hour…..
not my kind of Caesar he would have run this lot of labour liars through with the gladus much earllier on .
You might despise Mandy because he is a forked-tongue, mendacious, dissembling bastard like Brown, Blair, Balls and Campbell. But Mandelson will never lead Labour to an election victory for the same reason Labour’s core vote in the North East are jumping ship to the B&P.
Because while ‘traditional’ Labour voters in Scotland, Wlaes and the North East seem to take some pride in their billigerent support of economic idiocy they have had enough of immigration and they’re not too keen on this homosexualism either. And that goes for most of the voting population.
Mandy can only lose votes. Possibly even more than Brown. Although I appreciate that is hard to envisage.
I agree with the Prime Minister that mere tax cuts for creating new jobs isn’t enough. The real key remains business vision and employment liquidity. People need to let go of being so rigid and picky, and entertain new ideas and lower thresholds to giving people a chance, take a hard, hard look at quality of products and services, and invest in employee and customer loyalty. Skill is useful but a better attitude is fundamental to embracing necessary change.
Be still, grasshopper.
Just as the democratic statesman who sets out to plan economic life will soon be confronted with the alternative of either assuming dictatorial powers or abandoning his plans, so the totalitarian leader would soon have to choose between disregard of ordinary morals and failure. It is for this reason that the unscrupulous are likely to be more successful in a society tending toward totalitarianism.
Who does not see this has not yet grasped the full width of the gulf which separates totalitarianism from the essentially individualist liberal civilisation.
Churchill predicted this. He warned that the introduction of socialism into Britain would require ‘… some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance.’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/cta/events01/ukpol/election/archive/1945/45churchill_gestapo.ram
Winston was ridiculed at the time, but as a great visionary who understood the sweep of history and the true nature of utopian ideologies, he saw what was coming.
They say that “Hell is other people” so all utopian visions end up killing other people to create “heaven on earth”.
Isn’t it a bit late after 12 years to try and persuade us that Gordon has finally got the answer.
Time for a change blog troll boy – go back to Mordor
Seems that Brown is nicking tory ideas but as you say, a bit too late now for the people.
Once again, Mr. Halfwit
A question:why are you typing this bilge whilst cutting your lawn ?
http://www.grasshoppermower.com/support.php
Or is all this verbiage just herbage from your grass box ??
If you switch off your grasshopper it should stay still.
Henry Morganthau Jr. (FDR’s US Treasury Secretary) said in 1939 of the failed fiscal stimulus packages during the Great Depression that “never in the history of the world has there been a situation so bad that the government can’t make it worse.”
Gordon ain’t listening and he sure as hell isn’t learning
Prophetic indeed! How could he have possibly have foreseen a government so inept as New Labour?
They do not seem to understand that while competition can bear some mixture of regulation, it cannot be combined with state control to any extent without ceasing to operate as an effective guide to production. Both competition and central state control become poor and inefficient tools if they are incomplete, and a mixture of the two means that neither will work.
Morgenthau, is he the one who had James Forrestal thrown out of the window or was he the one who wanted to sterilise all the Germans?
Apart from that I’m sure he was a sweet, freedom-loving guy.
OK Charles, here’s your chance. If you’re so well informed, please tell us where all the money is going to come from?
The printers.
Invest in wheelbarrow production now.
‘Business vision?’ Have you ever met anyone who was involved in an actual business in any way at all? All they want is:
Banks to do their jobs
Government to fuck off out of it
No new laws
An end to the rapacious tax greed of the governing class
What I want.
Banks to allocate limited Credit.
The BoE to control credit inflation by modifying reserve requirements.
A repeal of taxes for positive externalities.
The Mail –
“For the record, Brown doesn’t throw mobile phones.
No. 10 officials say he’s more of a sweeper, clearing tables with a swing of his arm, or pushing chairs across the floor, when the red mist comes down.”
I am more of a door kicker, I can never understand how the pigs cannot knock a door of its hinges, basic mechanics will show you that the door should be kicked in the middle, karate experts don’t chop the wood where it is supported most, but I guess you have to be pretty thick to be a Police Hoonstubbble
Thats a good trick changing the word Hoon to hoon
Capitalise c l i n t to produce the desired effect
GORDON BROWN IS A CLINT
CLUNTSTUBBLE
Labour are finished. Floundering around, directionless, clueless. The country is broke, and for the sake of everyone Labour need a spell in opposition. Thankfully, they haven’t a hope of of recovering from their current doldrums. After they lose the next election they need a complete overhaul. A total rethink – fresh policies and new ideas, not ones they just lifted from the Tory manifesto and claimed as their own.
Hopefully after the next election they will enter a civil war which will leave them little more than a pile of ashes. I hope they will then enter a political black hole completely beyond rethink or overhaul.
They have ruined us with their fascism, their lunatic social engineering policies and gordon’s destructive economic policies.
David Cameron said ‘Twat’ on live radio. I hope in his debate with Brown he throws in a few fucks and Cun*s as well.
Herbert the Pound has just been on Sky teling us how much Camaro has embarrassed himself. We see quite a lot of this arsefish performing for bits of condemned herring.
DC also said the electorate were pissed off. How true.
It shows beneath the cool calm exterior there burns a passion, an indignation against what has been inflicted on this country by New Labour.
And this is a man who listens, unlike Brown.
Dear S017
“David Cameron said ‘Twat’ on live radio. I hope in his debate with Brown he throws in a few fucks and Cun*s as well”.
Maybe he will go the whole road and say Osborne!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Thank you George Lewd the Breast Fondler. Don’t call us.
Laird George “knew” my father
David Cameron Has the same hUMAN RIGHT TO SAY TWAT AS THE NEXT MAN and Im Sure If He Met you the word twat would be shouted in your direction !
Tory attacks may look big and impressive but it’s just so much swagger. It only hurts as much as you let it. As Labour develop policy and, well, just ignore the Tories they have nothing to swing at.
The Tory comments show a lot of “cleverness” and have HQ support behind them but I wouldn’t worry about it. They’re only shredding themselves to pieces and their support is, mostly, useless.
Heh. A Jedi is worth 100 ordinary men.
Jeez, just let it go.
Is there a greater tragedy imaginable than that, in our endeavour consciously to shape our future in accordance with high ideals, we should in fact unwittingly produce the very opposite of what we have been striving for?
Brown should reflect on that before he is thrown out.
If you took your head out of Gordon’s arse and opened your ears, you might just hear something pertinent. None of your comments have been, so far.
The Tories still lack the sort of business vision I’m looking for, and their members and wider constituents haven’t accepted that they share a responsibility and may need to give back to the broader business community and society. By that, I mean valuing the contribution of those lower down the chain in a meaningful way.
So, again, I’m left calling for a better R&D focus and the wealthy middle-class who did well out of the incomes redistribution of the Thatcher years to give back some of what they took. That means better opportunity and fair pay, job enrichment and a little squealing as the wealthy find everyone else getting a free roll of the dice.
Be still, grasshopper.
Nobody saw more clearly than the great political thinker de Tocqueville that democracy stands in an irreconcilable conflict with socialism: ‘Democracy extends the sphere of individual freedom,’ he said. ‘Democracy attaches all possible value to each man,’ he said in 1848, ‘while socialism makes each man a mere agent, a mere number.
For this reason I trust the country will condemn the Labour party to eternal exile. Let us have our General Election. Bring it forward, the people demand it.
Charles, Charles, Charles, you really shouldn’t exert yourself
As we all know Gordon’s cabinet of “all the talents” was selected from a bunch of self-interested, troughing career politicians (some unelected), so they MUST have more business vision than the Tories.
Get a grip you ZaNuLabour blog troll
You really are incapable of reality
Desperately falls back on that old chesnut. Politics of envy.
And I see that Thatch is still to blame for all New Labour’s failings.
And don’t forgot the way Thatcher and the Tories blatantly repealed the Corn Laws
And Thatcher’s window tax and how she single handedly destroyed a viable candle making industry.
And the beard tax.
And that pesky Danegeld.
And those tithes.
Thatcher?
MARGARET THATCHER!
Don’t talk to me about Thatcher! What? Eh? What???!!
She made me a fucking millionaire she did.
Forward with the £1bn plan to electrify the rail route between Manchester and Liverpool.
Socialism and Electrification!
We’ll be needing a couple of more power stations then? Or a few million more bird slicers.
It’s all part of our Glorious Leader’s next Five Minute Plan
Socialism and Electrocution is the connection we prefer.
Socialists are unable to discount irrefutable evidence that free markets produce unprecedented wealth. Instead, they indict the free market system on moral grounds, charging that it is a system that rewards greed and selfishness and creates an unequal distribution of income.
But there cannot be personal liberty in the absence of free markets, respect for private property rights and rule of law.
Let us have our vote so that we can restore our liberty!
KEEP ON TRUCKIN’ BIG ‘G’
Electrify the ’socialists’. I’m in favour of that.
It’s interesting to see how the Guardian’s associated whinge about the horrors of PFI (‘We’re outsourcing the future, to be built by Thatcher and Philip K Dick’ http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/28/privatisation-pfi-nhs-prisons ) has been hi-jacked by a stream of comments, the consensus view of which disagrees strongly with the stated opinion, believes that the public provision of public services has failed, and welcomes private sector involvement.
Reality from the readers, if not the commentariat. Note the ‘Fatcha’ totem wheeled out, as per usual. Get over it lads! – any failure must be placed at the door of the three socialist Prime Ministers who succeeded her 19 years ago.
It’s a bonus to me that I’ve posted just after Charles E. Hardwidge.
The most effective way of making people accept the validity of the values they are to serve is to persuade them that they are really the same as those they have always held, but which were not properly understood or recognised before. And the most efficient technique to this end is to use the old words but change their meaning.
This is Labour “spin” as espoused originally by Campbell and now by his minion successors like Charles E Harwidge.
Surely it would be easier to try to put the country right rather than convince the electorate that there is nothing wrong?
New Labour is its own biggest enemy.
I would love to see each constituency set up their own electoral area blog in the same fashion as Guido for the next election where everyone can comment on important local issues.
Hopefully we would get the Charles Hardwidges, Master Baiters, Speedo Shorts to participate to expose the dark heart of New labour to a wider audience.
It’s about time we went national
The Charles E Harwidges of this world are second-hand dealers in ideas. Insofar as such people may or may not be master of the technique of conveying ideas, they are certainly amateurs so far as the substance of what they convey is concerned.
They are mere conduits. Something is put in one end and something comes out the other. But otherwise they are hollow.
Yep. That’s the tactic alright. Forcefully deny you’d ever consider [completely insane course of action] even though nobody had a clue you would even contemplate such an idiotic course of action. And then promptly go and do it.
Pure 1984.
I will never allow national debt as%age of GDP to go over 40%.
And then promptly doubles it to 80% in two years.
No more ‘boom and bust’. And then promptly delivers the biggest unsustainable credit boom in UK history and denies any responsibility for the bubble popping.
He is a sworn enemy of the truth.
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is back with fresh steampants and rarin’ to go!
I hope you’ve just come back from confession.
I am cosmopolitan in my outlook – don’t be so parochial.
You are a nasty little trolling Labour shit. A vindictive piece of pond scum. An ugly pimple on the huge useless arse of the Labour Party’s gobby fat slag.
Cosmopolitan? About as cosmopolitan as a garden slug.
Now do us all a favour and piss off.
You just need loved – not by me though , so go AWAY!
Is that the best you can do, you socialist tosser? You are all over this blog like a rash. Why? You should ask yourself that.
Cosmopolitan! You’re not even good for a laugh.
Tell me that you’ll all vote for ME. I am the answer to the country’s problems and everyone loves me.
I did,nt
Too bad you can’t get Jake Thakeray to do a campaign song for you. Although ‘Sister Josephine’ could well be written for Gordon Brown.
RIP the greats…
Cyril Fletcher (1973-1981)
Thankery turned out to be a right fraud,
phoney accent, and made up background.
Some all familiar these days…
That would explain what he was doing running off to French folk festivals and being fluent in the language. I was always a bit perplexed to consider a ‘working class lad from oop north’ buggering off to France in the 1950’s to rub shoulders with Gallic folk singers.
Fake you say? Shame. Still some bloody funny (nuns) songs though.
The bigger the bull,
the bigger the balls,
the thicker, the slicker
the bullshit falls…
In retrospect ‘On Again, on again’ could have been written about Brown too…..
Give some women Brown the ghost of a chance to talk and thereupon
They go on again, on again, on again, on again,
and again, and again, and again, and again
They will go on again, on again, on again, on again,
On again, on again, on …
Normally another woman’s husband loves you.
No, no, no – I’m a celebrity and I am adored by everyone.
Quite right Esther. And when I was shagging Will Carling it was only right that nobody considered how upset his missus was. After all, what are his wife’s feelings compared to mine?
Us celebs must stick together.
Clunk. Click.
Having beeen paid, courtesy of the license payer, an obscene salary for a number of years the call to bury one’s nose and choppers in a new trough is a temptation too hard to resist.
It’s funny seeing all the Tory boys roll up with their predictable lists of lies and negativity. Flanked by arrogant banks and a rise in bullying by bad management in the workplace, their ever weakening putsch continues.
The Tory classes created economic failure and keep trying to talk us into recession but people aren’t buying it. In a similar way, I find the Tory talk just boring. I’m looking forward to Labour economic recovery sooner rather than later, and the Labour blogs that have something genuine and meaningful to offer. It’s just so much better than what the Tories have on show, and “Dave” and his pal “Guido” know it.
Hallelujah to that – sheer poetry – incisive as a laser beam
(L.A.S.E.R = Light Ampltude Simulated by the Emmision of Radiation for the brainless tories benefit).
define “Ampltude”
Ampltude: n. fat student
In a kind of up and down way along the x axis do you mean?
I think you mean Amplitude no such word as ampltude and the acronym laser stand for light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation.You just carn`t beat a Liebore education.
1277 -just so hard for you to say “sorry I’m wrong” — how sad -go shoot yourself.
sTimulated, actually.
It is perhaps the most characteristic feature of the socialist ‘intellectual’ that he judges new ideas not by their specific merits but by the readiness with which they fit into his general conceptions, into the picture of the world which he regards as modern or advanced.
Socialist intellectual? That is what they call an oxymoron.
Remember that Josef Stalin was an intellectual. They say Brown is, although I remain unconvinced on that one. One can be both an intellectual and deluded.
The intellectuals decide what we hear, in what form we are to hear it and from what angle it is to be presented. They decide who will be heard and who will not be heard. The supremacy and pervasiveness of television as the controlling medium of modern culture makes that even more true of our own day than it was before.
Thanks god for the internet. It has unleashed freedom of expression for the working man for the first time in man’s history.
I’d get them to increase your medication Chaz old chap.
There will be some amongst you who will wonder just how badly fucked up a country can get with 12 years of economic incompetence at the helm.
Well now you know.
Don’t need to wonder – I saw eighteen years of it under Thatcher and thirteen years of Tory misrule before that…….don’t teach yer granny how to suck eggs, lad.
The Thatcher angle quota has already been used up today troll. Better you go back to your abuse and dead baby spoiling tactics. You’re out of your depth in intellectual debate.
Labour liars Distraction 101 tactic. Quote unflattering figures from the reign of the blessed Thatch and totally ignore the clusterfuck she inherited. The sequal is happening as we write.
Economy completely arse-fucked by Brown, unemployment rocketing and will continue to rocket so that no matter how bad the figures are today they’ll be even worse a week after Cameron takes over so he will, twenty years from now, be getting saddled with the ‘record’ figures by some future Labour liar. Same with taxes. Despite the fact they’re high enough now then Brown’s timebomb means they will be higher under Cameron.
Pure evil.
I believe Spaedo plays the stooge to Charlie’s straight man in this trolling double act.
I think they got their instructions crossed. Both of them seem to be playing the funny guy and there’s no straight man to feed ‘em the lines.
There’s nothing new in what they say. Same old stuff being recirculated ad nauseum.
Keep going snookums, I luv it. lol
:-))
Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister from 1979 to 1990. Spaedo makes that 18 years. You can see why Labour struggles with public finance.
Waad – read the QUESTION that I was answering BEFORE you jump in and make an arse of yourself, eh?!
Mrs Thatcher (PBUH) fixed an economy ruined by socialism. Her main problem was that she didn’t go FAR enough. We still have the murderous NHS which harms 10% of hospital patients and it treatment ration death-sentences. We still have the failure reward system that is the welfare state, funded by punishing the successful.
Just like a hangover isn’t as fun as the drinking nor paying the credit card bill as fun as the shopping, but it has to happen.
We so need someone like her back in office to compact the extortion funded sector.
O/T but,
Did anyone see the beating Christian on EastEnders got?
Shameful!
Hi cock – how’s dick?
You dere! Stop talkin’ to your Lad!
he’s mine I can do what I want – have you got one?
Oh yes. Her’s has cocaine in it.
At last someone telling the truth about that puppet Call Me Dave
truth is: he is not and never could be as big criminal knob jockey treasonous are-fucking bellend as the current incumbent
New Labour has never understood that government has no resources of its very own.
The only way government can give one person money is to first take it from another person. Doing so represents the forcible using of one person, through the tax code, to serve the purposes of another. That is a form of immorality akin to slavery. After all, a working definition of slavery is precisely that: the forcible use of one person to serve the purposes of another.
So I say bring forward the General Election and the let the people free them selves from New Labour oppression and slavery (and the incessant cacophony of the Labour website trolls).
Labours idea of running an economy is like the captain of the Titanic suggesting they cut a chunk out of one side of the ship and weld it over the hole in the other side.
Looks like we’re bound for the bottom chaps.
All overboard.
Overboard? Trouble is, all the MP’s have got themselves into the liferafts. There are none left for us ordinary people.
Vote socialist. Vote for slavery.
Has a certain ring (of truth ) about it.
Good rallying cry for the “none of the above” candidates.
Very well done HFR.
Socialism and its bastard child, New Labour, represent the ultimate form of hubris since the nature of man is ignored.
They arrogantly ignore traditions that embody the wisdom of generations; impetuously disregard customs whose purpose they do not understand; and blithely confuse the law written on the hearts of the British people (which they cannot change) with administrative rules that they can alter at whim.
Such presumption is not only a fatal conceit, but also the path to slavery.
It is time for a complete change before it is too late. Remember, Britons never, never, never shall be slaves!
Our democracy is crumbling, oligarchy here we come.
The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government, as someone once said.
See they are worser than me………..scum.
A neighbour who played a major role in the search for abducted schoolgirl Shannon Matthews has appeared in court charged with benefit fraud of more than £43,000.
Amanda Hyett, the sister of Shannon’s mother Karen’s ex-partner Craig Meehan, faced Dewsbury Magistrates’ Court charged with seven counts of benefit fraud.
Hyett, 26, of Moorside Road, Dewsbury Moor, West Yorkshire, was granted unconditional bail until the case resumes on September 9.
She is accused of failing to declare she was living with her husband, Neil, when claiming benefits and keeping money wrongfully paid into her account. Joanne Wharton, prosecuting, told the court the claims involved in the charges totalled £43,050.79.
This makes me want to throw up. I’ve been made redundant and my “help” from the government was the bare minimum. It really beggars belief that these scumbags are allowed to get away with it. Chances are she’ll just get a rap over the knuckles and a couple of hundred hours community service.
But I expect Charles will find a way to defend her. After all, she’s probably a staunch socialist.
It’ll all be Maggie Thatcher’s fault. Just wait. I feel a ‘no such thing as society’ misquote coming…
As we approach the prospect of another General Election voters will shortly be faced with the choice of continuing with Labour or voting in a new untried Conservative Government. The choice for the voter is really quite depressing they are being asked to choose from two equally disappointing and depressing options. It’s like being asked to choose between gonorrhoea and syphilis. Both choices are equally bad.
However Gordon Brown by robustly promoting his British jobs for British workers initiative and priority housing for long term indigenous residents has stolen two of the far rights most attractive dog whistle policies. In this way the Labour party will harness the seething anger and frustration of what was once the white British working class who will turn on David Cameron for his soft politically correct, idealistic and whimsical agenda. Labour will march back to power on the back of the masses burning desire for political justice. Gordon Brown has once again demonstrated his supreme political skills by harnessing this dark force to Labours political advantage.
Be like the grasshopper and all is well. Tomorrow belongs to Labour.
Make the most of tomorrow, for next year Labour will be history.
Troll.
Tomorrow does belong to Liebore; but next year and the succeeding years belong to the Tories.
Naff off, Charles.
So
what’s happened to the latest on the Stassi appeal over compensation for injured forces then???
Comrade Brown is on holiday. It is nothing to do with him.
++Breaking News++
The Government has just issued a statement saying that it is urgently reviewing compensation for the Armed Forces following it’s unpopular legal challenge against awards.
Yes!!!!
Comrade Brown interupted his holiday and personally intervened. Hurrah for the Great Leader!
did he still have that ridiculous suit and tie on again?
Gizza Job…
Tourist ambassadors, Sports coaches, what the fuck happened to the cavity wall insulation intake ???
SirPStephenson has lifted the Met’s ban on its Officers wearing Union Jack badges in support of British troops.
Scores of his Officers were threatening to ignore the ruling.
I bet gordon will be very unhappy about that.
Does David Cameron welcome it then, Nell? Or does her perceive it as upsetting the urban masses who are flocking to support the Tories under his leadership.
I thought the urban masses were flocking to the B&P.
What has it got to do with Cameron? I thought Brown was in charge.
Let’ see. Labour’s denigration of our Union Jack goes back a long way.
In the election Neil Kinnock lost it was perceived by the electorate , because his people talked about the Union Jack as ‘a symbol of racist colonial oppression’, that he was not patriotic.
During the lifetime of this government, and certainly during gordon’s time as pm- Labour’s Communication Unit, based in No.10, has made statements such as ‘ fans waving Union Jacks are racist’
Labour’s extreme view on this matter is one of the reasons that has pushed voters towards that unmentionable party.
Labour, and gordon, have never understood that the Union Jack and support of our Armed Forces are two subjects which transcend politics.
Did Dave support those Police Officers – yes I have no doubt that he did – but he isn’t the PM .
Gordon should have stepped in and told the Met Commissioner long before now that reversing the ban was a no-brainer. Gordon dithered. It’s what he does.
Nell I do generally agree with you and no doubt so does Dave albeit unenthusiastically. Yes it is anathema to Gordon but I am not convinced Dave has the essential emotional attachment to it. I can detect no evidence of this.
On this rather delicate political subject Call Me Dave has been deafeningly silent. He lacks political courage and will wait to see which way the prevailing political wind is blowing before committing himself.
In choosing CMD over David Davis the Conservative party made a very BIG mistake. Just like the Lion in the Wizard of Oz CMD has no courage and few convictions. His only motivation is getting into office. His main political attributes are spin, opportunism, spin and more spin.
AC SweetPee – you would never agree with someone of my right wing persuasions – I love your line in seduction – but alas it does not work !!
Nell I do generally agree with you and of course Dave will be in broad if not enthusiastic agreement
Hi -TWatson
It’s NOT the bloody Union JACK unless it’s flying at the jackstaff of a Royal Navy ship.
It’s the Union FLAG you ignorant tossers!
Half the bloody idiots who display the Union Flag in Britain fly it upside down anyway!
Mind you, as a national flag flown upside down is an international distress signal, maybe they have it correct!
I should also add that he is very good at maximising his parliamentary expenses and jumping on every populous bandwagon.
David Cameron! See Simon Heffers article in the Daily Telegraph today – brilliant and accurate. This article truly portrays the man as he is – weak, disappointing, and lacking in principle.
Alternatively, if you don`t like Telegraph-style read the transcript of Cameron`s radio interview this morning. Naughty words well spoken! This foul-mouthed trash is far more poetically expressed in the pubs and clubs which Dave DOES NOT frequent. He hasn`t got a clue! This will NOT impress the lower orders, Dave. Out of touch and out of tune. His opinion lead is based on anti-Brown not pro-Cameron. There is a total lack of Tory values, principles, and policy.
Dave must have developed his poetic inclinations from his friend Julie Kirkbride.
Lets hope it stops at poetic inclinations. Poor Dave.
The Labourgraph’s view is hardly reliable!
It’s now losing approximately £20million a year because of it’s anti-tory stance.
It is now continually writing me begging letters offering me a full week’s papers which normally cost £8 for £3.20.
It mirrors the desperation of the Labour Party , as both are going down the tubes.
It is generally reliable in a centrist sort of way albeit now left-leaning. Whars the alternative Nell?
……………………and for fuck’s sake don’t suggest the Daily Mail!
No Nick I wouldn’t suggest the Mail – although hubby has rather taken to the saturday puzzles page since I’ve stopped taking the Labourgraph
Do what I do, stick to the web – Guido’s blog is pretty good for an overview.
Beware – I think Guido’s taken off the auto modding tonight and is being mischevious.
What’s wrong with saying that the D**ly M**l p*zzle p*ge is g**d?
Which reminds me of the one about the Scotsman who won the lottery, and heard his wife say:
“bit what shall wee doo aboot aal theese begging letters Milty?”
“aah sen’ them aat anawee”
Why doesn’t Mandelson just come out and say he IS the UNELECTED PRIME MINISTER of these isles? Maybe but only then, the Queen can give Brown a right public slapping????
There are some in Labour’s upper echelon who are touting mandy as the next Leader and saviour of the Labour Party.
Strange that he has been all over the news this week ’strutting his stuff’ just as gordon has scuttled off on holiday .
It suggests that he does have ambitions , post gordon, once Labour is annihilated at the next GE.
And, of course, the worse he can make gordon look now (ie the fiasco this morning about gordon going head to head with cameron on tv, which gordon promptly bottled) the better it will make mandy look when he makes his move.
I have been, until now, a law-abiding, tax paying citizen of liberal mind. However, I will take to the streets and join the riots if that venal, lying, cheating crook Mandelson becomes leader of, or PM by default. The man is a complete toad and deceitful *arstard. Only slightly more hateful than Brown – who incidentally stole my
pension – himself a duplicitous, lying ars*ole. Together they continue to destroy this country and ‘we’ seemingly do *ugger all about it. Apart from that, I have no strong feelings…….
The German Chancellor Angela Merkel has ruled out any further increases in fuel duty tax if she should win the September general election. She has also ruled out general tolling or road-pricing and pledged to keep unrestricted autobahns.
The cocksucking communists in Stasi UK will put up fuel duty by 2p in September to 56p/litre, highest in Europe, on diesel and petrol, with a further 2p/litre next Spring, to fight Climate Change, i.e. the UK’s fucking broke and must loot the populace to pay the bankers. UK Plod wants more dosh for ANPR systems(ruled illegal in Germany, against the constitution), i.e. mass surveillance and tracking and there’s talk of tolling, road-pricing and blanket 20mph and 50mph urban and rural speed limits. What cocksuckers the English are and get the governments they richly deserve.
The German’s learned the lesson of handing over their guns in the 1930’s. It looks like we’re going to have to learn the same lesson the hard way.
FUCK climate change! I couldn’t give toss about it – or the CO2 footprint crap.
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Global+warming+religion+First+World+urban+elites/1835847/story.html
Global warming is the new religion of First World urban elites
Geologist Ian Plimer takes a contrary view, arguing that man-made climate change is a con trick perpetuated by environmentalists
If we consider, hypothetically, that the earth has existed for 24 hours , and that Man arrived at 23:59 – do you really think that Man has made the impact the GW project leads us to believe? ‘Cos this is the reality…….
Global Warming? It’s the middle of summer, it has been pissing down all day and I’ve put the heating on.
Does anyone remember the last money-making scam? The Millenium Bug?
Nobody likes me, everybody hates me
Think I’ll go and eat worms
Long thin skinny ones, short fat juicy ones
See how they wriggle and squirm
Bite their heads off, suck their juice out
Throw their skins away
You should see how well I thrive
On worms three times a day!
The mythology of the Tao and similar works discusses the great achievements of the ancients in hyperbolic terms. But, as people emerged from the mud to found civilisation, so people are stepping up a gear to deliver no less auspicious achievements. We live in a time where legends are made: this is history and we have a front row seat.
Be still, grasshopper.
Don’t need a credit card to ride this train…
Troll alert.
I thought a credit card was exactly what you do need to “ride this train”.
‘We live in a time where legends are made’ = We sure do. gordon is making a true legend of his failures and unpopularity.
He will almost certainly make the history books as the most hated PM of all time.
Just a thought Guys and Gals….
Try correlating Hardwidges and Hake Fried Rices’ posts.
Whenever Hardon posts,a reply from HFR is mostly posted within 2 or 3 minutes.
Not only that..HFR’s posts are often sufficiently long to be impossible to type within such a short timespan…and they contain similar pseudo intellectualisms.
Food for thought?
Yes. Definitely.
No disrepect to hake – although I do wonder…………….
I did wonder whether it was a damian’s attack to try and bore us all to death.
Poor damian aka TWatson. They are after all interchangeable. One’s a doughnut on legs and the other a mint humbug on legs.
It may be,Nell.
All it means is that one never knows who,or what, is posting here… and for what purposes.
Yup. Point taken.
“In the first state, man and sword become one and each other. Here, even a blade of grass can be used as a lethal weapon. In the next stage, the sword resides not in the hand but in the heart. Even without a weapon, the warrior can slay his enemy from a hundred paces. But the ultimate ideal is when the sword disappears altogether. The warrior embraces all around him. The desire to kill no longer exists. Only peace remains.”
– Hero (2002), King of Qin.
Vote Labour. :-)
You really are full of crap. We’re not in Japan, Charles, we’re in England. Your understanding of english politics leaves a lot to be desired.
No. Just his understanding of politics.
I think his computer has been set up for him so he can keep posting nonsense paragraphs – all he has to do is hit one button to post.
He hasn’t written any of that rubbish – someone like AC*mpbell has put all those cowpat paragraphs together , especially for george to post.
What absolute twaddle. Let’s not forget AC*mpbell used to write p*rn**raph*c fiction for a dodgy newspaper . What george is posting would come as second nature.
…and as Gordon stripped off his corset to reveal his manly pot belly, Charlsetta’s bosom began to heave and she came over all funny like.
I think the reference is Chinese
1319 – Shel – you are actually in the United Kingdom and your politics are British you clod
NO spido you’re the clod
Don’t know about you, but I’m English. Born and bred. Why should I not say that? If I said you were British instead of Scottish, you would probably be annoyed.
Get it?
1475 – you do what you want girl but you were arrogantly putting somebody else down when you had no basis for doing so. Fair’s fair
That twat remark of Camerons.It takes one to know one Dave!
Too many twits make a twat -sounds fair to me. I’m not a person that swears but I wasn’t offended.
Labour sure does have too many twits and no thinkers. I think that was the point he was probably trying to make – after all most of the Labour Party is now Twitting isn’t it?
Idiots!!!!
eh lad he is a twat but a better twat than gordon ( i am a ex labour member)
YOU ex labour – tell it to the marines freddie
Best you don’t try and talk to the Marines spido given you’re labour anti-armed forces diatribe earlier in the day.
would somebody tell this bitch to stop stalking me?
i am proud of the troops lad , i am not proud of the people that sent them there but they are loyal and deserve all the help they get lad
I think it’s time I opened a new paragraph in this discourse, if only to stop CEH doing so. So, what’s it to be this time ….. has the bloody rain stopped yet??
hope not lad a few more days rest will be 100%
Alas – it’s not going to.
The BBC Weather Service has now had to admit that, its slavish support of gordon’s climate change utterances led it to make ‘long hot summer and gardens turning to deserts’ statements that are now proved a lie.
I just hope the rain holds off for the Test cricket tomorrow.And that gordon refrains from wishing England luck!
hey lass , will be draw the weather is pants for 3 out of 5 days
Now come on freddie, that’s just not good enough!!
If you use bombs instead of balls you’ll skittle them Aussies out twice, easy!!
hey geoff lad if the match is rained of with back to back test more time to rest the knee
oh, for heaven’s sake lad, ya don’t bowl with yer knee, hells bells!!!
hehehe you gotta laugh ain’t ya?
he’s nearly as good as me he is!
And he’s right too but give Freddie his due, he’s a winner
raving lad that hells bells is fit lad
Sorry geoffrey he’s far superior to anything you ever were.
Go get ‘em Freddie.
geoff was world class lass
Not as wolrd class as you. Enjoy!!!
cheers lass
It’s hot and sunny here!
Go on, Gizza Job
A politiician That swears! WOW! Big deal. Goes to show with a little help they can live in the real world Welcome David Nice To have you with us !
Gordon , it is said has a full command of every swear word known to man every time the red mist comes down and he sweeps everything off his desk with that ‘powerful’ forearm.
maybe a powerful arm would give you a much needed sense of perspective.
I read your reply earlier about beating up your wife if she overcooks your dinner.
I thought then – I have a heavy copper bottomed frying pan – if any man ever raised his hand against me, I would not hesitate to use that frying pan to smack him into tomorrow and then deposit him in the bowels of a volcano.
People (ie gordon) who cannot control their anger , are selfish, unfeeling, uncaring, people who do not communicate or empathise with other human beings.
They live on a mental desert island. And they need locking away in a deep dark cell where they can’t do any one any harm.
1383- that was not me posting and fine you know it – I would not be surpried if it was YOU who was the imposter and this is your follow through.
As you may know, Gordon has great difficulty saying the ‘f word’ …. go on Gordon, say it ,
fffffffffailure
Gordon also has serious problems in saying the s word ssssssssssssssss………oooooo……rrr…….
oh alright then – if I must – if I really must ………………..y
Its alright knowing them but another understanding what they mean If he understands what they mean why hasn’t he FUCKED OFF yet ?
I’ve finally obtained copies of The Shogun and Memoirs of a Secret Empire, and the parallels between Tokugawa Japan and modern Britain just leap off the screen.
I’m expecting and hoping that a Labour win at the next general election will nuke the nationalists and corrosive Tories. Purpose and unity strike me as being more useful than indulging those egoists and vested interests.
It’s notable that the Tokugawa regime lasted for 250 years. I’m sure the nationalists and Tories won’t like that but I tend to think they’re going to have to get used to the idea.
Jeez, just let it go.
charles have you a life apart from spunking over gordon and mandy?
The Tokuwaga may have lasted 250 years, but in that time politics would swing back and forth as usual, between the benign and the bloodthirsty, and between the corrupt and the competent
Tokuwaga lasted 250 years? Wow.
New Labour have lasted just 12 and under gordon 2? and are about to expire. Not very impressive then?
- Away vile hag
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1364 – Spido Skirts – hag I believe is a term wich can be male or female –
You are a self confessed wife beater – By comparison I consider my duty here to love and support my family
You want compensation to our troops stopped – I am fighting for it to be given unconditionally.
You made those dreadful remarks today about DC’s disabled son – I am raising a disabled grandchild and know what tremendous love and dedication it took for the Cameron’s to do what they did for that beautiful boy.
Who’s the Hag?
I sense evil from you – keep away
Tokugawa himself being one of the most bloodthirsty
Paedo, you are too banal to be evil, and in that sense – and that sense alone – you are not really worth expending valuable time on. You do, however, lower the tone, hence this post.
TaT makes a few good points, Master Baiter occasionally strikes home, Charles H is an unintentional hoot – but you lack any of these merits. You avoid the difficult points, you appear to lack any capacity for abstract reasoning, nor do you seem to have had any experience of the real world. Your tone is one of peevish stupidity, interspersed with moments of real stupidity.
Fuck off, there’s a dear.
“Peevish stupidity”
Those two words sum up Buckfast gnomes to a tee. Well done, Sir!
It’s a hard widge a’ gonna fall.
The liebour party, killing and maiming our soldiers, bringing them home in body bags, those that are alive and injured are having their compensation cut, while liebour mps can live off their expenses alone. This is what soldiers fought and died for in 2 world wars.
it aint