July 21st, 2009

Question of Priorities

Ring Ring Ring

BBC Hi I’m calling from the BBC
GF I’m on the beach..
BBC It is about Damian Mc..
GF in France
BBC Would you be…
GF No.
BBC OK
GF Au revoir


1,788 Comments

  1. 1
    resurgemus says:

    Les cons

    • 34

      no comparison to shepherds bush in the rain

      • 473
        Ewanme says:

        Fuck me , petal !!!

        The four of ya span that out for 464 comments ???

        That is soooo sad .

        Hellooo ??? Try gettin a life x .

        E x .

        • 475
          Gaydo's Chief Cocksucker says:

          Why would we want to get a life, missi? We’ve got Gaydo.

        • 476
          Ewanme says:

          Oh , hiya Cocksucker , honey x .

          It woz just a thought . Dontcha get bored wiv the ‘I’m a Guinness guzzlin , cuttin-edge , loose-cannon , state of the art , pretend Irish , ex rave-merchant , I’m gonna make a diffrence , look at me go’ type bullshit ???

          E x .

        • 478
          Gaydo's Arse Wipe says:

          Fuck off Ewammy bitch. Get lost you saddo. Gaydo is the big nob round here. He made McBride cry. So there.

        • 484
          Ewanme says:

          OMG !!!!

          They’re all crawlin outta the woodwork now . Hi Arse Wipe , honey x .

          So , McBride (a bloke wot nobody gave a flyin fuck about) had to go ???

          Closely followed by … ?? Brown ???

          Nah . McBride woz only of any significance to you small-minded people wot inhabit the girly gossipy bubble of media world .

          You’ll have to do somethin much bigger than that to justify all these blinkin ads , hun .

          E x .

        • 486
          thick as a cunt says:

          Last warning kiddie fiddler. I’m gonna mod you to death if you don’t bow down to our lord, Gaydo.

        • 487
          Ewanme says:

          Ooooo !

          Ok taac , honey – I’m gone but I’ll be back x .

          Later E x .

        • 604
          Troll Basher says:

          Got a load to deliver eh mate?

        • 1475
          Today my town was ethnically cleansed by the Labour NAZIS says:

          Today my town was ethnically cleansed by the Labour NAZIS said…
          Today I went looking for the conveyer belt hooked up to the third world with Gordon handing out free money at the end of it as they appear to have installed it in my working class previously happy town around 2 years ago.

          previously everyone knew everyone and we knew who to trust and who not to and generally you could speak to anyone and get along.

          This is a poor town and resources are tight, we don’t have a swimming pool(closed down), a hospital(closed down), a cinima(closed down) and they even closed down the council housing waiting list at one time as there were too many people on it.

          Yet in the last 2 years the town has seen a flood of immigrants, not settled immigrants but new immigrants who cannot speak English and appear to have no skills, they double in number every single month, we are now at the point where you would not bother to ask someone the time as chances are they won’t understand a word you say or would be part of one of the many new enriching gangsta gangs.

          This must be going on in every single working class town in the UK and if it hasn’t yet it soon will.

          A poor working class town that was ethnically cleansed in two short years and a happy SINGLE community destroyed forever.

          Thanks Labour, thanks conservatives, thanks Liberals, thanks Glibertarians, thanks non voters, thanks UKCRAP, thanks Guido.

          Do any of you even give a shit?

          I know who I am voting for and it ain’t the fucking Glibertarian head up arse party or the NWO Cons.

        • 1483
          thick as thieves says:

          7:57pm – another cretin who can’t read signs!
          the sign says “no bn p nazis.”
          we did not defeat hitler to then vote in fascists into parliament. not on my watch motherfucker.
          DON’T BE A CRIPPLE LIKE 7.57 – DON’T VOTE FOR FASCISTS!
          INDEPENDENTS WILL CRUSH THE CRIPPLE BN P FASCISTS WE WILL CRUSH THE SCUM AND BASH OUT THEIR BRAINS.
          IT IS IN THE INDEPENDENT MANIFESTO AND AN INDEPENDENT MANIFESTO IS LEGALLY BINDING NOT LIKE THE PARTY ONES WHICH ARE NOT WORTH THE PAPER THEY ARE WRITTEN ON.
          SO HERE ARE THREE VERY GOOD REASONS TO VOTE INDEPENDENT
          LEGALLY BINDING MANIFESTO – PRO LESBIAN – ANTI FASCIST
          BE INDEPENDENT – VOTE INDEPENDENT
          FUCK WITH THE PROGRAMME!

        • 1532
          Atlas shrugged says:

          TAT you arse. Did you not notice that we already have voted in The UK Fascist Party? 3 whole times to be precise.

          Did you not notice that the EU is exactly what Hitler had in mind. The ONLY difference is that this time The Muslims are the fascists whipping boys, as well as the Jews.

          I have positively fried my mind trying to warn you people, only to get abuse, when not being totally ignored.

          FASCISM is not national and it certainly is nothing to do with free anything. FASCISM like its blood relative COMMUNISM is very INTERNATIONAL. As well as being here and very much here to stay, whatever you do, and whoever you vote for.

          The whole point of my warnings, was hopefully to prevent our ruling elites from taking the utter piss out of my fellow British, American and European citizens.

          HOWEVER

          It is now clear to myself, that you and the rest of you richly DESERVE to have the utter piss taken out of you. You have all made your beds, and now you can die on them, as far as I am concerned.

          Many in my family did not get the chance to do even that. Half of them at least died in NAZI concentration camps, pointlessly clutching bars of soap.

          Our ruling class elites where undoubtedly right. Common people are extremely common but now have less then no common sense, or even a gram of a natural sense of survival. You and your type are the ones who are fundamentally as THICK as THIEVES. Not of course as thick as the thieves that run this world of theirs, who are rather clever in truth. No your type of THICK is the sort of thick that ends up doing serious time in Brixton nick, for less then the price of a pack of fags.

        • 1548
          thick as thieves says:

          not me motherfucker.
          not guilty.
          close but no banana atlas.
          oh well.
          VOTE INDEPENDENT IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO RECLAIM OUR DEMOCRACY:
          PEACEFULLY.

        • 1561
          thick as thieves says:

          QUESTION OF PRIORITIES

          Ring Ring Ring

          Gideon’s dealer: I’m calling from the BBC, I’m just dropping off some crack and heroin to some BBC guys.
          Gideon: I’m at the Oxo Tower, how long will it take you to get here?? I’m clucking like a motherfucker for some crack man, I’m hurtin’ real bad baby.
          Gideon’s drug dealer: Your mate Damian McBride still owes me for an eighth I’m not bringing you anything bitch till that debt is paid.
          Gideon: That motherfucker aint no friend just bring me the shit baby I’m hurting like a motherfucker you got what I need now bring it to me you bastard I got creepy crawlies running around my skin man, bring me what I need YOU MOTHERFUCKING BITCH!
          Gideon’s dealer: Au revoir

          Tags BBC

        • 1761
          Who controls the EUSSR that owns you? says:

          I can now undersatand why thick as shit is hated by all on the board and why his ignorance is legendary!

          If Gordon shit down his kids throat he would thank him for it and ask for more once the BBC did a made up falsely report stating Gordon is always right.

        • 1764
          a goverment of NWO puppets says:

          Tell me who elected Mandy?

          One of the most powerful poeople in Europe

          Tell me why Burruso seems to have been crown king of Europe with every increasing power without the peoples say so, in fact with the people telling them consistantly to shove it up their arse.

          Still think you life in a democracy?

          The NWO bankers decide these placements not nations or the people.

          however walk to your deaths you most surely will as the sun or the Times told you it would be good for you.

          ever wondered who controls the press you rely on for infomation?

          Boats, Cameron, Murdoch, Osborne, mandy, and rothchild.

          get the picture?

        • 1775
          tat says:

          10.51am,
          you are a nobody and I AM TOP BOY! SHUT IT YOU DOPEY SLAG!
          we do not tolerate truther morons like you here. you are paranoid nutters.
          I understand that atlas caters for that particular type of retard.
          please leave this place immediately and take your gay lover 11.06 with you.
          thankyou.
          what a pair of sp@stics!

        • 1788
          follow the money says:

          Hey tat her is some free education for you, watch learn and understand, a cloud will be lifted from your eyes and all the pieces will fall into place.

          Never again will you need to be an ignorant dumbass!

          The Creature from Jekyll Island – A Second Look at the Federal Reserve

          http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8484911570371055528

      • 1468

        talking of shepherds bush in the rain got a monsoon at the moment

      • 1547
        jean says:

        Guido’s not at all like himself ….. MP’s have been ousted ’til October.

    • 66

      A generation of fear and greed has touched everyone and left them with ambitions and personality defects that are probably best dropped. By seizing the opportunity in the disaster Gordon Brown has helped refocus and reenergise Britain so business, finance, and the people can begin developing along better and more successful lines. If folks were open, fair, and less impatient they might appreciate the benefits and not be such losers about things.

      Calm down. Relax. Be happy.

      • 106
        Hugh Janus says:

        Stop talking out of your rear end Lardwedge!

      • 155
        Tax is taxing says:

        wot a knob you are as indeed is gordy broon

        • 162
          Under a flower pot at the bottom of the garden until the GE says:

          King size troll – just ignore him.

      • 174
        Charles E Hardwidge says:

        Mmmm, semen

      • 176
        incandescent-with-rage says:

        We have been open and fair. It’s the government who have not. If you have so much clout with Gordon, maybe you should let him know. He wont listen to the electorate.

        As for fear and greed, you only have to look at the troughers in the HoC. Says it all, really.

        • 678
          Churchill's Cattleprod says:

          There you go again, optimistically on about something called a ‘government’. Let’s put both feet down on the ground about this and state that we do not have a ‘government’ any longer, we are dictated down to by one ‘elected’ (although not to his current position) individual -Gordon Brown- who brooks no dissent and relies on another completely unelected official (Mandelson) to enforce his dictats. In such a case the very best term one might find for this is an Authority.

          Quoting Wikipedia: “Authoritarianism – Characterized by an emphasis on the authority of the state in a republic or union. It is a political system controlled by nonelected rulers who usually permit some degree of individual freedom.”. Yet to see the degree of individual freedom though.

        • 721
          barefootcontessa says:

          CC, You’re on the right lines there.

      • 186
        thick as thieves says:

        does anyone mind if I tie a length of good English rope around the neck of charles e hardwidge(smackhead:1st Class)?
        let us take a straw poll on the issue.
        who is for the hanging?
        without wishing to influence the debate my view is that we should just go straight ahead and hang the c’unt.
        summary justice. just like the Iraq war and Afghanistan occupation, innit charles, innit?
        our masters have taught us well.
        too fucking well.
        hanging is definitely back on the agenda.
        y’know, like saddam hussein: methinks ’tis time we saw some more war criminals swinging like the sacks of shit they are.
        I have a list.

        • 853
          Biffo says:

          Well the Labour viewpoint now is ‘guilty until proven innocent’ so can’t see why that shouldn’t apply to Charlie Softwedge – go ahead, hang him.

        • 932
          summer_Breeze says:

          Well tat, as long as your list contains the names of Tony Blair, Cherie Blair, Alistair Campbell, George Bush et al, then I say, what are you waiting for, get on with it.
          Don’t be letting anyone pull their legs after the drop to quicken things for them either. Let them suffer.

        • 1232
          Churchill's Cattleprod says:

          Dear Sir,

          Regarding your request to conduct mass hangings of various members of the Labour Party and/or its supporting civil servants we should draw your attention to the fact that the following criteria must be met prior to your purchasing the necessary tools required to carry out this necessary public duty:

          1) We require proof of a Health and Safety impact assessment on the potential dangers to the environment following loss of bowel and bladder control by the hanged individuals.

          2) We require a copy of the City of Westminster’s assessment regarding safe working load strains upon lampposts. Given that there are a number of different standards of lamppost in Westminster we shall need you to confirm which standard you intend to use.

          3) We have not yet received your completed WD156/2 form for the recovery and disposal of bodies. Kindly expedite

          4) We still await your promised specification of the length of rope to be used for each intended victim, also the type of knot to be used and the average height and drop that each victim may experience. Please be assured that we do not relish a slow and agonising death for members of the Labour Party, despite how much others may well relish such.

          5) Our sources inform us that in a number of instances you may be prepared to allow the mob to tear certain members to pieces. So far we have ascertained that Mr and Mrs Edward Balls, Mr John Prescott and Lord Mandelson are on this list. Can we please have your assurances that this will not happen? It is well know that Lord Mandelson has Green Slime Disorder and we do not want hazardous waste running into the Thames.

          Faithfully Yours,

          HM Health & Safety Inspectorate

        • 1473
          thick as thieves says:

          sir,
          please find below full answers to all of the points you have raised:
          1)contact mark oaten, he is in charge of this type of shit.
          2)we will be using the English standard, the best standard in the world.
          3)re:disposal of scum traitors – they will be burned a bonfire built on the lawns outside of parliament as a warning to others.
          4)you will need to speak to the hangman regarding these issues.
          5)on this matter I can personally assure you that I will ensure the witchtraitor mandelson is burned at the stake. I guarantee that.
          ps. please be advised that as the hangings begin tomorrow at 6am, by the time you receive this correspondence the hangings will already have taken place.
          indeed, as I have sent this correspondence by second class, you may well have taken this letter with your newspaper; in which case you could be looking at photographs taken by loyal citizens who captured every moment because they wished to document ‘the glorious day of purging and killing of witches and satanist new labour warmongers’ so the people could see that if they took out all the motherfuckers in one short savage period of time then everyone could have a much nicer time.
          you may well now be looking at photos of ed balls dangling with shit trickling down his fat, bloated legs just before the lardy arsed c’unt got ripped apart by the angry crown, and when the fuckers armed were pulled off oh how the crowd laughed and whooped with excitement!; perhaps your gaze will fall upon the picture of peter mandelson: all that is left of him is his head in the noose, the motherfucker’s head was snapped clean off his body during the proceedings; the hangman miscalculated the length of the rope.
          silly bugger!
          or perchance you are looking at the one of gordon brown, his big purple lying tongue stuck out of his war criminal mouth and all his clothes ripped off by the baying mob so that all he is left wearing is his shit filled nappy.
          what about the one of jack straw, eh? what a fucking corker!
          how the fuck did the lynch mob shove that police bollard so far up jack’s arsehole.
          the top was actually sticking out of jack’s war criminal mouth. good one!
          anyway, if you can drag your eyes away from the hanged for a moment I would just like to say that as far as I am concerned this is the end of the matter.
          best retards,
          thick as thieves

        • 1510

          Churchills cattleprod, Tat.

          Excellent.

          Not sure you can have a bonfire though TaT. Can’t seem H&S and the eco lobby allowing anything as dangerous as fire. You certainly can’t use landfill for bodies.
          Sky burial has been forbidden too. Wheelie bins are a definite no no.
          Burial at sea will constitute dumping of waste.
          The only thing I can think of is lobbing the bodies into a nuclear reactor.

          But there may be other solutions.

        • 1552
          thick as thieves says:

          I am top boy mr quango so I do what I fucking like.
          and I do not need to be prodded, I am ready to bash brains 24/7.
          it is what I do.
          regards etc.

        • 1569
          I can cure TAT says:

          A rope has two ends TwAT, so why don’t we tie the other end around your fucking neck.?

        • 1589
          grobdj says:

          A drop into a large high-speed mincing machine would be quick and humane; only those with the correct Labour Government biometric ID card would be allowed into the machine; suitably guarded there would be no Health and Safety issues; the resulting mush could be used for dog food so, apart from the extra dog poo, there would be no environmental impact

        • 1655
          Augeas says:

          Don’t let us down now TaT. I shall be very disappointed if I wake up in the morning to find you have broken your solemn pledge and these bastards are still alive.

      • 194

        There’s no one more greedy than Gordon.

        He’s extorted all our wealth and sold all our gold.

        • 233
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          I saw your pic aunty and you’re definitely not a scotsman like Gordo and me so wtf do you mean by “ou” gold, etc, etc????

        • 591
          Troll Basher says:

          I fuckin hate sweaties

        • 630
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          you’re supposed to…it’s c’unts like you wee target.

        • 658
          Troll Basher says:

          Wiv your breath no doubt.

        • 1276
          Anonymous says:

          Someone who writes their name as “5p€d0☻|5h0rt5|” generally means that you are either 13 or have the mental age of 13.

        • 1346
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Or,as in my case, the virility of a thirteen year old (in your case its your IQ taht equates to a thirteen year old or you would not make such stooopid coomments).

      • 257
        Greychatter says:

        Mr. Hardwidge,

        Have you imparted these pearls of wisdom of yours to Gordon?

        Its Tony and Gordon who have destroyed British business and the finance industry and condemned generations of our children to a bleak future of debt repayments.

      • 294
        Tricky Dicky says:

        Charles, the NuLab autoblogger must have got stuck – it has posted this exact same comment at least twice before!

      • 417
        Stormforce says:

        Charlie,
        At this rate you’re going to be suicidal in about 9 months time.
        Best accept the fact that Labour is a relic of a bygone era and
        move on.

      • 865

        GoBro when Chancellor CUT the helicopter budget no wonder he looked very shift and angry during the press conference this morning. Brown is simply killing out soldiers andf as malloch said before the enforcersgot to him its Somalia and Pakistan we need to watch not the dozy Affers. Brown knows he’s lost it just as NORWICH is going to be a distant memory….

        Even Guido thinks Norwich is so yesterday he’s caught the last Ryanair to france…when they clear it of french we can all go there

      • 963
      • 974
        Joe Jackson says:

        None of this realy matters anymore.

        Bloomberg have just broken the news that Michael Jackson has been spotted getting onto the Underground at Tooting Bec.

        There is obviously a God!!!

        • 1407
          GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

          There’d only be a god if they reported that he’d fell under it !

    • 82

      Ring Ring Ring

      C5: Hi I’m calling from the Channel 5 news
      GF: I’m on the beach..
      C5:It is about Damian Mc..
      GF in France
      C5:Would you be…
      GF No.
      C5: Natasha Kaplinsky is doing the interview
      GF I’m on my way.

    • 92
      5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

      Are you not away yet Foxy? Hurry up, you’ll miss your train.

    • 102

      Should have flown back for the afternoon, including your whole family and then flown back out again on a private jet.

      If Mark Thompson can do it , so can you. It’s not like it’s your money, is it?

    • 209
      Churchill's Cattleprod says:

      Hehe., know the feeling well …

      Client: We have a problem with one site.
      CC: It’s 35 degrees here and I’ve just poured a glass of Provencal Rosé.
      Client: (insert PHP, Ajax etc technobabble here)
      CC: Sorry, can’t help you – can I speak to you when I’m back in 3 weeks?
      Client: Oh … alright then.
      CC: [pours another glass] Byee then!

      • 337
        This is not an aspirational handle says:

        What is the problem that a chap who drinks rosé can fix?

    • 300
      Old Street says:

      Guido you attention whore if you dont want those twats ringing you ( especially at the beach with the family) why dont you leave the phone off and in Mrs Fawkes beac bag)

      reminds me of the Alex comic strip where his wife bins his blackbery mid holiday

    • 428
      Anonymous says:

      Hi Guido – I am in France too at the moment and relying on the internet machine to help me maintain some insight into the decline and fall of Britannica.

      I have never posted before on any blog, though I have read many. This is principally because I read so many contributions that are thoughtless, naff or phobic. Few seem to be receptive or open minded. Of all blogs, I have determined, yours has the best chance to allow me to express myself and be heard even though there is a current of extremism and shallow cant within it that it seems you, or your moderators, can’t expunge.

      So here goes.

      I have lived through macmillan, Douglas-

      • 446
        Anonymous says:

        Oh Gawd pressed the wrong button..

        Whatever, I have lived through the regimes of many governments and PMs and this, folks, is by far the worst.

        I am a loyal citizen who always thought that we should get on with whatever government the people choose. No more. I cannot believe the lies and deceit that we are given daily by this bunch and the routine way in which they manage the media to suit themselves (nor that the media should be so compliant). Never ever in my life did I think that a revolution would be necessary to return government’s management to the people – I do now.

    • 1592
      freddie flintoff says:

      hey lads check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1NFbVx0uN8

    • 1651
      Anonymous says:

      George Galloway = Cock

  2. 2
    Tachybaptus says:

    Let’s see how much the beeb can spin out of ‘Mr Fawkes refused to comment.’ Not that it matters a dog’s fart, because no one believes any of their smears any more.

    • 6
      Sam Bellamy says:

      Nobody believes anything GF says either.

      • 11
        Dick the Prick says:

        Not meant to believe it lad – it’s free. I’m sure you can get a refund on your way out.

      • 12
        DB says:

        Maybe, but I’m not forced to pay for GF under threat of imprisonment.

      • 15
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        “He sent me a text on the day I resigned saying: ‘You started it, I finished it.’”

        McBride believes Guido, and so does Draper. Crawl back to your sewer, Sam.

      • 18
        Ralph Furious says:

        You are like a small piece of something which I recently removed from the sole of my shoe. I don’t know what it was but it smelt dreadful and I flicked it down the nearest drain – which seemed the best place for it.

      • 129
        5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

        Yorkshiremen are Scots in denial of their true roots…Haste Ye Back, all ye of the North West Frontier, you wll never get the respect of your London elitists until you do.

        • 452
        • 489
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          mark my words, the day will come when even you will see it’s inevitable. (assuming you’ve got a scrap of selfprideleft in you)

        • 596
          Troll Basher says:

          I really fuckin hate sweaties

        • 633
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          TB – I take that as a compliment to myh effectiveness.

        • 660
          Troll Basher says:

          drink on m8

        • 782
          Troll Basher says:

          No mate I’ve always hated the scotchmens

        • 880
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          TB – don’t feel bad about I’m sure the feeling’s mutual – I, for one proud Scot, certainly reciprocate your hostility but not to your nation in general, just to bigots like your self in particular. Go lie down and stop trying to make a name for yourself – TaT will always be your superior and vanquish you without event trying (even although he does flip like a LIbDem).

        • 908
          Troll Basher says:

          Ha! The scotch invented bigotry – ask any Celtic supporter. Still reckon your tat as well.

        • 912
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          Do you have ANY original words of your own – you are a walking media cliche – a fooking learning difficulty – and, “yes”, TaT and I are one in the same, if it pleases you to believe so.

        • 976
          Troll Basher says:

          And your a fuckin stereotype porridge gobbler. so easy to wind up its larfable innit

        • 1004
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Phah, useless dolt

        • 1104
          thick as thieves says:

          said the fucking useless dolt.

        • 1185
          Ssd says:

          I’m Scottish and I can’t fucking stand them. That’s how bad they are!

    • 73

      I generally think the business, media, and national culture shares the same broken fundamentals, and by bringing economics and morality together, and focusing on solutions and shared understanding, the Prime Minister will create a ‘New Deal’.

      There’s lots of Zen in all this.

      • 90
        Sukyspook says:

        Having watched Newsnight last night, YOU have to be that lefty James Purnell in league with the (no doubt) tax exempt “think tank” Demos, creating a COMMON PURPOSE for the good of humanity bollox kind of thing….

        That’ll be £5 please.

        You can put lipstick on a pig – IT’S STILL A PIG.

        • 122
          Captain Haddock says:

          Who mentioned old Jackboots then ?????

        • 157
          Mr Ned says:

          The entire BBC is stuffed with common purpose Marxists. I bet they cannot wait for the EU to scrap the meddlesome election process altogether. Why else would they be training the leaders for the “post democratic” age?

          Common Purpose and all their elitist supporters across the entire public sector need to be weeded out.

        • 1001
          Sailor says:

          Yes, but you must admit it makes it look a lot nicer.

        • 1003
          Biffo says:

          That’s certainly true in Gordon’s case. And it doesn’t make him look any better.

        • 1176
          Observer says:

          Mr. Ned, I always wondered why Oprah is training all those African girls at her “Leadership Academy” – it always struck me as rather pointless until I learned about Common Purpose and the penny finally dropped! Assuming the girls ‘graduate’ (which we assume won’t be too hard for them) then expect to see them parachuted in to all sorts of top posts in EUrope and the USA.

      • 195

        Economics and morality do go hand in hand in a system called capitalism.

        Economics and the devil go hand in hand in a system called Marxism.

        • 462
          Dack Blog says:

          capitalism… morality… yeah, right. (what bollocks).

        • 609

          Yes DB it’s true. Capitalism and Morality are synonyms.

          All other systems are based on extortion and force.

          This is why socialism has murdered over 100 million in the last century.

        • 624
          Master Baiter says:

          How is the US military funded?
          Answer: The US goverment with borrowed funds backed by the US tax payer and by the US taxpayer directly.
          How much is it funded with?
          Answer: 2009 budget $515.4 Bil
          What does it do with those funds?
          Answer: Buy stuff and pay people to kill other people and occupy their land. Also to control other people and land through actual and implied threat of military force.
          Who profits from those funds?
          Answer: The ‘employees’ of the US military. Plus the shareholders of the corporations that make the stuff and the shareholders of the corporations that benefit from the resources accessed from occupied and controlled peoples, territories and markets.

          What sort of enterprise is the US military?
          Answer: It is an Imperial one.

          AntiCitizen keep washing bottles.

        • 665
          Bottle Washer Ist Class says:

          If this is the Labour view then why were Blair and Brown so keen to carry out American foreign policy???

          See if your handlers can give an unpatronising answer for us bottle washers?

        • 674
          Charles E Hogwash says:

          Capitalism allows morality to flourish. The monolithic Socialist state cannot allow any such sentiments to impede the impossible goal of utopia.

          Capitalism and democracy dissipate power into the hands of the many. Socialism concentrates power into the single state (controlled by a few ruthless individuals). It cannot allow dissent which is always violently suppressed.

        • 744
          Master Baiter says:

          The US accounts for more than 47% of all military spending in the world.

        • 752

          Exactly MB.

          Opposing Evil is an expensive task, so thanks to the Yanks for subsidising morals (as The Britain Empire did when it stopped Slavery)!

        • 776
          Master Baiter says:

          The US military is a vast imperial state enterprise and has not a capitalist enterprise. Vast swathes of the US economy linked to the military are in fact state enterprises. The US uses militarism and wars to feed its corrupt economy, which like the Soviet empire before it is collapsing under its own internal contradictions. Much to the delight of its erstwhile and current enemies.
          The world has changed.

        • 795
          Bottle Washer Ist Class says:

          So why is Labour its No 1 cheerleader? Still waiting for the answer.

        • 801
          Master Baiter says:

          The US military is the enforcement arm of an imperial project.

        • 819
          tat says:

          and your beloved party, masterbaiter, chose to dance to the devil’s tune.
          it is no good you now merely trying to avoid the subject.
          after all, how can the voters vote with a clear conscience for the new labour war and occupation party, a party whose members are war criminals?
          so let me ask the question again masterbaiter and let us see if you run away again like last time you coward:
          masterbaiter, do you think we should remain in Afghanistan and lose more of our troops to satiate brown’s vanity or should we withdraw our troops.
          you really will have to answer the question this time for if you do not then I expect to will be modded to fuck.
          many thanks.

        • 842
          Master Baiter says:

          Fake Tat,
          It’s not a football match.
          Spluttering won’t change anything.
          The Conservitudes are the more corrupt by a mile by virtue of the creatures they pander to.
          Lesson over

        • 884
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          Anti – you’re a foreigner so you won’t know this but it is the Conservative philosophy the Christian bible condemns — go and ask for an arab translation of the Sermon on the Mount and get somebody to read it for you just see how wrong you are – you fooking Daego Dongler

        • 910
          Troll Basher says:

          Good question tat. He has no fuckin answers tho …. just a fuckin troll.

        • 913
          Troll Basher says:

          “go and ask for an arab translation of the Sermon on the Mount and get somebody to read it for you ”

          ???

          Whatderfuck??? Oh good idea jockoe why didnt the rest of us fink of dat?

          Go easy on the turbo wine pal.

        • 926
          Dack Blog says:

          I wasn’t defending socialism.

        • 979
          Bottle Washer Ist Class says:

          Nay Dack, that’s Ma Bator’s job. It’s a dirty thankless job but some idiot will always do it.

      • 466
        Sungei Patani says:

        Pompous pretentious rubbish.

      • 902
        Trevor Brooking says:

        OK. Zen fuck off

    • 214
      Churchill's Cattleprod says:

      Actually the correct way of addressing the BBC is thus:

      BBC: We’d like …
      Taxpayer: Have you fired Jonathan Ross yet?
      BBC: Err, no
      Taxpayer: then fuck off my phone then.

    • 482
      Abolish the Licence Fee says:

      I gave up watching the Beeb years ago. It just really pisses me off BIG-TIME that I still have to bankroll it. Where’s the “social justice” in that? :-(

  3. 3
    Blake's7 says:

    Was it Toebails? He has been writing some right shite about Cameron today, something about a soapbox scandle or was that folk handle, I forget. They must have no stories at the moment cos Labour are off on holiday so they have not been feed anything. Must be quite boring for them at the moment. There is just so much love out there for ankles

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2009/07/return_of_the_s.html#comments

    Enjoy the beach Guido, go on get ya tits out :-)

    • 8
      Charles Flaccidwidger says:

      Qite exceptionally poor, even by Toenails’ standards.

    • 13
      Engineer says:

      The BBC are trying everything to avoid talking about yesterday’s economic figures. Swine flu, Coulson, McBride (bit thin that one – yesterday’s news) education initiatives, cats stuck up trees….

      • 41
        Dick the Prick says:

        Which cat? What tree? We should be told

      • 62
        AnonyMousse says:

        Yes, they’ve even had a studio debate about Alan Milburn’s theory about social mobility – even though labour have been in power for an eternity – he thinks poor people have a harder time progressing in life – which some may do – but they’ve been in power for an eternity FFS!

        • 191
          Steve Expat says:

          They’ve had 12 years to sort out “social mobility” which got off to a great start when they introduced university tuition fees and scrapped apprentice schemes.

          The result is now that most degrees are almost worthless and the plumbers & builders come from Poland.

        • 254
          nell says:

          And Steve Expat, plumbers in London earn more than the professional classes (seriously) –

          Come on Milburn explain that for upward mobility!

          Or perhaps not – best to keep quiet about that one.

        • 265
          Rant against the Machine says:

          Up here in Scotland there is a definite snobbery amongst the so called “Professional Classes” and what really makes me puke is that most of them ie those that perpetuate this snobbery usually make a virtue out of the fact they vote Labour ! Their hypocricy is rancid in the extreme !!!

        • 281
          Pluperfect Subjunctive says:

          nell, I’d advise against employing a London plumber. Upward mobility may not be the solution you are looking for.

        • 302
          barefootcontessa says:

          They’re trying to reintroduce newlabour, as if it never happened! 12 years ago they carried on in this vein. Fodder for the by election I suspect. Milburn suited up with the gorgon who was making strange hand movements, – rather clerical hand movements. The cynicism of their timing, apart from the ridiculous content of the report, beggars belief. They must think that the electorate are totally stupid.

          James Purnell, the slimy little twerp is full of himself, but couldn’t bring himself to reiterate what he’d said about the gorgon when he first resigned, in answer to Kirsty’s question to him on Newsnight. He just went very coy, and rather flustered and red. Who the hell does he think he is? He’s a jumped up no good politician, that’s what he is.

        • 345
          Steve Expat says:

          Agreed nell, I know of plumbers earning over 40 grand a year in London – they charge the best part of a hundred quid an hour if you ever need one in a hurry, and that’s the daytime rate!

        • 622
          Pontius The Pilot says:

          Milburn is a cock.

          “eeeh, I was born in 1958 on a coooncil estate and I ended up in the cabinet!”

          ….Yes…. and precisely how did you end up there Mr Milburn?

          Patronage perhaps? Who you knew rather than what you knew?

          The very thing your obsessive-cant-leave-it-alone-class-warrior-social-engineering bastards seem to be railing against????

          The two faced spineless Geordie fucker, professional politician who short of running a bookshop nicknamed “Haze Of Dope” hasnt done a proper days work in his whole miserable fucking life… Cant trust him as far as you could fucking kick him.

        • 631
          Master Baiter says:

          The second world war witnessed greater social mobility because the establishment needed to harness the talents of working class men and women in a variety of fields notably intelligence including code breaking, interpretting and work with partisans behind enemy lines. Other notable areas were logistics, arms manufacturing and aviation.
          Naturally parents aim to enhance the life chances of their off spring and one way is to block the progress of others particularly the progress of those whose parents lack influence. Those in positions of influence will ensure that their off spring progress ahead of others.
          Unfortunately the overall effect of this tendency is to reduce the talent pool and therefore the talent or ability of those tasked with more intellectual endeavours.
          The UK establishment would benefit from being more pragmatic in harnessing the talents of more of the population.
          Because it has failed to do so its service industries including finance are largely controlled by foreign entities and its manufacturing is similarly foreign controlled.
          Greater social mobility is good for the nation as well as the individual.

        • 670
          Bottle Washer Ist Class says:

          Labour has set back social mobility decades. They are the problem not the solution.

        • 763
          Master Baiter says:

          Lightweight plastic bottle washer,
          What problem?
          What solution?

        • 823
          tat says:

          said the water carrier.

        • 1029
          Georgeous George says:

          A reduced talent pool gave us Flint, Six Bellies Smith, Harman, Morris, and Hodge.

      • 149

        It’s a miracle.
        I’ve just discovered some unbiased BBC News footage!

    • 77

      When I was a boy and read history of ancient Rome and similar places I always wondered what it would be like to live then. I guess, it’s not much different and, of course, the future begins now.

      With the diminished influence of gamblers and spivs, proper jobs that demand rational reasoning and a sense of reality will become more prominent. Their industry and cultural influence should help make us happier and richer.

      As I’ve commented before, Ieyasu Tokugawa reined in the Daimyo and this began a period of trade and low crime that ushered in the Japanese renaissance. This moment seems equally auspicious.

      Thus, we write ourselves into history…

      • 93
        Rant against the Machine says:

        Charles Im sure that piece you have written has some relevance….but not in this universe !

      • 109
        Dack Blog says:

        Charles you said this already. Comment 17.

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2008/10/end_of_an_era_1.html

      • 113
        Jethro says:

        “rational reasoning”: that’s as opposed to ‘irrational reasoning’, I suppose…

      • 207
        thick as thieves says:

        said the tory troll.
        that is the problem with the conservatives – they are inherently dishonest, they just can’t fucking help themselves!
        take dave cameron, as soon as the c’unt was elected as an MP he was bang on the expenses. the weasel had a total max out motherfuckering binge on taxpayers money for fucks sake. what a selfish money grubbing c’unt. very vulgar behaviour and an error compounded by the fact that dave doesn’t need housing benefit payments because he is a millionaire.
        and so is his wife! what a pair of tossers, you could not make this shit up if you tried.
        and this man thinks he is fit to hold the office of PM.
        what a c’unt. what a fucking chancer.
        yet dave claims he intends to lead an honest, open goverment.
        dave’s a useless c’unt, fucking useless and full of shit. it isn’t his fault he is as he is.
        it is ofcourse his parent’s fault. ditto gideon snort-the-lot.
        what a pair of useless wankers. end of story.
        FUCK DAVE FUCK GIDEON – VOTE INDEPENDENT!
        IF YOU ARE A CRACKHEAD OR SMACKHEAD – VOTE CONSERVATIVE
        INDEPENDENTS DRAW THE LINE AT SUPERSKUNK AND HASHISH!
        MANIFESTO:
        PRO LESBIAN – PRO PEACE – PRO FUCKING WITH THE PROGRAMME!
        JOIN US – THE LESBIANS DID!
        YOU WON’T REGRET IT DUDE!
        INSTRUCTIONS: RIP THE WIRES OUT OF THE MOTHERFUCKING MACHINE!
        VOTE INDEPENDENT

        • 221
          Dick Emery says:

          You are awful but I do like you.

        • 594
          Troll Basher says:

          Whats the independents policies then knobrot???

        • 825
          tat says:

          the independents’ policy is to represent the views of their constituents uncontaminated by party politics.
          DOH!
          you are so very dim troll.
          retarded infact.
          are you down’s syndrome?

        • 986
          Troll Basher says:

          Yeah but what about formin a GOVERNMENT numbnutz? You aint fought dis threw ave ye??

          I think another bu­mmins in order. Sh­ag some sense into ya.

        • 1016
          thick as thieves says:

          DOH! WHY ARE YOU SO DUMB MOTHERFUCKER?
          the government will obviously be a coalition government.
          what is wrong with you? why can’t you keep up cripple?
          the next parliament will be a hung parliament so if you shut the fuck up and observe the proceedings you will be able to see the theory of a coalition government in action.
          after all, a coalition government got us throught the second world war.
          it is a far better constitutional arrangement than having some mad c’unt like thatcher or blair or brown or cameron going running off doing ‘their own thing’.
          try to think about what you are going to say before you shoot your big mouth off and you won’t look so stupid.
          what a dick!

        • 1031
          Troll Basher says:

          You mean like they have in Italy?

          yeah man you is defo overdue a serious bu­mmin.

          You knows the drill…… assume da position!

        • 1076
          thick as thieves says:

          dumb motherfucker.
          dear reader, I rest my case.

        • 1491
          Sir Mark Jethro, KBE, BBC, OMM-and-Bar(crush). says:

          1047 Dear tat,
          ‘I rest my case.’
          Isn’t it usual i) to state your case and ii) to make your case, before ‘resting’ it?

        • 1517
          thick as thieves says:

          as I am a delinquent I am not bound by such constraints.
          DOH! you are not very clever.
          I AM TOP BOY I MAKE THE RULES: YOU FOLLOW THEM C’UNT!
          I think you are not fitting in here because you are too old and stupid and that you would find conservativefoam is definitely more your kind of place.
          orderorder is clearly too libertarian and we are not uptight like you, you nit picking wanker. yes, it would be best for you to leave here sir mark and go there.
          oh, and and are you paying your taxes sir mark? I hope you are not another millionaire tax evader: those c’unts seem to be running rampant throught the tory party at the moment.
          please leave here you old duffer and fuck off to conservativefoam or to the tax office. preferably to the tax office first though to pay you outstanding tax bill you fucking thieving c’unt.
          thankyou.

      • 645
        Beano says:

        I don’t know about ancient Rome, but thanks to Brown’s incompetence we’re all about to find out what it’s like to live in the Third World!

        • 1186
          Ben Fogle says:

          The third world’s not too bad.Once you get on the M62 heading east you should be ok.

    • 196
      Moley says:

      How long can the BBC survive.

      Read the comments!

      How can these people be so utterly alienated from their audience?

      • 203
        grobdj says:

        Maybe the BBC don’t watch the BBC

        • 1487
          Sir Mark Jethro, KBE, BBC, OMM-and-Bar(crush). says:

          Watch… the… BBC…?
          What, people like me…?
          I watch Wimbledon, of course (good seats the Corporation provides); I watch Glyndebourne (don’t know a thing about music, and, frankly, could do with a bit less of all that noise they make) – and Garsington, of course – Covent Garden’s a bit vulgar, I find, so we tend not to take our Hampers there. Ascot has, regrettably, become too utterly plebeian recently – even before the ‘exciting re-development’.
          But, best of all, I like to watch the smooth diagonal cleft, crested with foam, made by the prow of the Yacht, as it heads for… a mooring, paid for by the dupes and dopes whom we soak via the Licence.

    • 569
      Brown's Terrochotta No.9 says:

      See my comment at 428 on this site.

      Read Mike Naylor’s comments and replies on the recent Coulson entry on Robinson’s blog…

      Guido is going to have to clean up his blog when he comes back from his holidays (maybe do some moderating) but Robinson needs to read his blog from time to time.

    • 603
      Pontius The Pilot says:

      I’ve complained to the BBC calling for his removal as Political Editor. Think one of his other contributors derided it as “Chimp Copy”.

      Its not just about being partisan and the old allegations of bias against the BBC. Jesus wept, the man is meant to be Political Editor – a senior correspondant – and with all that has been happening at Westminster this week, this is what he, as Editor, thinks is the lead political story???

      Unbefuckinglievable.

      What a waste of the licence fee.

  4. 4

    You are letting us all down, Guido.

    Yes: you are on your holidays. But the Enemy Class does not do holidays. Like Cerberus, it never sleeps, in pursuit of its objectively deliberate wickedness.

    So you cannot either. You ought to have ripped the pants off the BBC, after all it was only on the telephone.

    • 83

      It takes a moment to change an intellectual position but 3-5 years to work that change deep into the middle brain as anyone trying to give up smoking or any other deeply ingrained habit will tell you. When the Tories start proving as people that their ideas and attitudes are genuine they may play a more useful role in governance.

      The Tories won’t admit it, maybe not even to themselves, but whatever they were today they will not be tomorrow, and that uncertainty and fear is probably going to throw them off track for a while as they get their heads around it. But, get their heads around this they must.

      • 101
        • 111
          PT Barnum says:

          He’s awfully green – he recycles everything here from LabourList, Robinson’s blog and amateur photography fora.

        • 114
          Dack Blog says:

          He’s fucking boring is what he is. Can’t we just ignore him, like a fart in a lift?

        • 167
          Under a flower pot at the bottom of the garden until the GE says:

          Yep, don’t reply to his posts.

        • 700
          Charles E Hogwash says:

          Ignoring him would take a bit of restraint.

      • 179
        incandescent-with-rage says:

        Labour have had twelve years to work a 3-5 year change into their middle brains so they’re already well behind, judging by your comment above. We need a real change in government in this country. The Conservatives couldn’t possibly do any more damage than this shower have already done.

        • 198

          By God’s trousers…
          TWELVE years of this shower of objectively wicked GramscoFabiaNazi c***s, who do what they do __because is is wicked and not because they even think it is good, they have long passed the point of that one, and they /still/have not managed to bring us truly down, into the blood and dust.

          They really are wimps after all.

        • 201

          Wimps! Wimps! Wimps! Can’t even do evil properly, even if they want to!

          12! 12! 12! The years of the Five Year Plan!

        • 202

          Or should it be 666?

        • 206

          GOD will sort them into His Own piles, He will know His Own, from the other ones.

          We are -NOT- serious enough about these people. Not yet. It will come if they do not watch themselves.

        • 216

          The Conservatives will be just “Old” GramscoFabiaNazi Labour with different guys at the Top. the “Lobbyists” as you all have read, as have I a Lancashire bumpkin, are all “scrambling to attract” “people close to Cameron”.

          So how do you think policy towards liberalism and individual liberty, and towards //A Small State// will change?

          Eh?

          Eh?

          I didn’t quite catch that?

          Eh?

          Hello ??

        • 223

          Better start assaulting the Tories now, I think, before the election and before it’s too late. This is the time to make the buggers listen.

          Nice
          Lisbon
          42Days
          ROME
          The SEA
          All the many Criminal Justice Acts
          Practically all legislation enacted after 1987
          Much legislation enacted after 1939 (we shall cherrypick)
          etc

        • 324
          thick as thieves says:

          now listen here you fucking cripple: far too many consecutive posts.
          do you have a hotmail account? well then use it c’unt.
          you are giving me fucking headache with all your droning on and on.
          please move your mouse to the word conservativefoam in the column on the right and then press click and fuck off for the love of God please fuck off.
          YOU BORING FUCKING BASTARD!
          bye!
          thank God that c’unts gone. I used to think davis was alright but I have changed my mind.
          I have decided, based upon the evidence placed before me today, that david davis is a retard.

        • 464
          Dack Blog says:

          You totally make me larf tat.

        • 595
          Troll Basher says:

          You should see him in his pink tutu and wellies. Youd larf yer cotton socks orf.

        • 1187
          Jobs4life says:

          5 year plans? Now your talkin.

      • 468
        Sungei Patani says:

        Boring pretentious rubbish.

        • 828
          tat says:

          now you are just repeating yourself sungei you boring old fart.
          do not return here until you have something new to say.
          thankyou.

        • 1248
          barefootcontessa says:

          I’m rather enjoying his reiteration of these words. When he’s referring to Charles he’s always spot on.

        • 1377
          Sungei Patani says:

          Contessa:

          Thank you for your kind words.

        • 1496
          thick as thieves says:

          said the rapist.

      • 907
        Trevor Brooking says:

        Hardminge Junior, do you consider that this flimsy flatulent nonsense and general piss and wind issuing forth from your general direction (see #81) is justification for keeping this dishonest, discredited, arrogant, incompetent incumbent shower of shit in power?! And how much are you paid for doing so?

  5. 5
    not auspicious says:

    How come it was switched on? Weren’t you going to switch it off and only check periodically?

  6. 7
    Chris Hicks says:

    The thought of GF on a beach anywhere has just made me throw up – but the French deserve him.

  7. 10
    righty right wing (mrs) says:

    The Labour Party / Guardian / BBC cabal were probably setting you up for a fall anyway.

    After what McBride did, can you imagine the furore if he was a Tory who had been disgraced & then got a job in Ed “I barely knew him” Balls edukashun system?

    To be anti politics means you have to be anti BBC by default.

    I am still waiting for the BBC to co-host opinion polls with the Daily Mail as they have with the Guardian – all in the spirit of impartiality & balance of course.

  8. 14
    Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

    same thing just happened to me

    having my late afternoon nap

    sone charity at the door wanting money, told them to go fourth and multiply.

    went back to sofa fuckin phone rings this time.

    cant get any peace

  9. 16
    Ray says:

    Serves you right for not leaving your phone turned off and in the hotel room safe.

  10. 17
    Charles_E_Hardwidge. says:

    To be afraid of the debate is akin to being afraid to breath.

    The Labour Party and the Tao teach us that we have nothing to fear from open and honest communication and accepting of the limitations of our intellectualism.

    The synergy between the progressive movements, broadcasters and newspapers in the West is in contrast to their popular appeal – a popular appeal muddied and sullied by those who are afraid to accept the that there can be no return to the politics of personal greed and avarice.

    All is well.

    • 20

      It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.

      • 1507
        Charles.E. Laughton says:

        Itsh better to conker your shelf, than to open a thousand bottles. Then the hic-tory, sorry, piss-tory, sorry Victory-V will be jaws – in your jaws! It cannot be taken from you, not by Angels, not by Demons, not even by Pink Elephants, nor yet by green slimy-things with eyes. Eyes! Those blood-shot eyes! Hideous! Repellent! Is this a dagger I see before me, it’s handle…?’ No: my razor… and that’s my shaving-mirror.

    • 21
      PT Barnum says:

      Pangloss used now and then to say to Candide:

      “There is a concatenation of all events in the best of possible worlds; for, in short, had you not been kicked out of a fine castle for the love of Miss Cunegund; had you not been put into the Inquisition; had you not traveled over America on foot; had you not run the Baron through the body; and had you not lost all your sheep, which you brought from the good country of El Dorado, you would not have been here to eat preserved citrons and pistachio nuts.”

      “Excellently observed,” answered Candide; “but let us cultivate our garden.”

      • 25

        oh matron stop muckin about!

      • 38
        Osama the Nazarene says:

        Nice one PT, at least its more interesting (and relevant) than the garnage that NuLiebor sycophant spouts.

        • 184
          PT Barnum says:

          Why, thank you Osama (whoever thought they’d type that!). Hardwidge reminds me, always, of Voltaire’s Pangloss, the man who persisted in seeing that “all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds” and who was never able to change his thinking in the face of reality.

    • 26
      nathan says:

      You stupid cυnt.

      nathan of pinner, July 21st 2009.

    • 42
      Grasshopper says:

      Classic, comparing the Labour Party and the Tao.
      As a student of the Tao for many years i think we have been reading different books. The Labour Party is, was and will always be, the enemy of personal and spiritual development. They want us all in the same pot, saying the same things, nodding away to their instructions. The Tao speaks of the Superior Man, the quest for personal fulfillment and individual happiness, a philosophy whose closest friend is Thatchers Conservatives.
      Fool.

      • 97
        Rant against the Machine says:

        Just think of John Prescot and any comparissons with the Tao kinda evapourate dont ya think ?

        • 411
          John 'Fat Buddha' Prescott says:

          The Tao? En’t that a fooking Chinky Takeaway? Three number 28’s and a side order of pies, please… ooh, and some pie-fried rice…

    • 469
      Sungei Patani says:

      Pretentious boring and pompous rubbish.

    • 916
      Trevor Brooking says:

      “The Labour Party and the Tao teach us that we have nothing to fear from open and honest communication” you say in #17. Tell me, O Hardminge, this open and honest communication of which you say you speak in the Labour Party is truly a wondrous thing……………….but on the evidence of the last twelve years, where in the name of heaven is it?

      Your party’s contempt for the public is odious and that is why 80% of the public hate you.

  11. 24

    UK debt hits record £799 billion

    Total outstanding government debt in the UK has risen to a record £799bn, or 56.6% of UK GDP- the highest since records began in 1974

    Figures showed the government borrowed £13bn in June, almost twice as much as a year ago, after the recession shrank tax receipts.

    Separately, the government’s tax take fell by £32bn in the past year- the biggest fall since the 1920’s.

    The chancellor has said that borrowing will reach £175bn in this financial year.

    • 43
      Dick the Prick says:

      £810 billion – but £10 bill here, £10 bill there – it’s all so passe

      http://www.debtbombshell.com/

    • 44
      Rat Boy says:

      ANOTHER LABOUR TRIUMPH!

      Debt – UP!
      Borrowing – UP!
      Unemployment – UP!
      Lying – UP!
      Thieving – UP!

    • 46
      Gooey Blob says:

      Things are getting worse by the day under this government, they’re an absolute shambles and completely paralysed.

      We need an election and a new government with a mandate to do whatever is necessary to get us out of this mess. The longer we do nothing, the more likely this is to result in a crisis.

      • 95
        Jonty Twatface says:

        The amazing thing about all this is that debt is now greater than in 1919,after we spent blood and treasure defeating the German Empire.

    • 112
      caesars wife says:

      i doubt the £175bn figure (i think it will be nearer £200bn), but scary figs non the less .

      have your holiday guido , mcbride is stirring it whilst not admitting what it was about , he still thinks it was legit . diarys are up for grabs redacted or unredacted??
      ed features as brilliants but underarted tea boy/altar boy

      • 506
        Man on the Clapham omnibus says:

        Britain’s public sector debt has reached $1.3 trillion – the highest amount since records began 35 years ago.

        The total – equivalent to 56.6 per cent of the country’s gross domestic product (GDP) – comes after the government borrowed $21bn last month, double the amount of last June, – UK Office for National Statistics

        Alistair Darling, Britain’s finance minister, has forecast borrowing for the full year of $288bn, a record post-war high – but several economists say $312bn is more likely.

      • 527
        bergen says:

        I took a look at my firm’s tax payments.Some of the staff on 4 days,profits down,turnover down(lower VAT)-the drop was much greater than I expected and we are doing rather better than our competitors.If we are any guide then the national tax take from the private sector must be going through the floor.

        • 653
          Anonymous says:

          Agreed bergen, my company is in general manufacturing supplying a wide range of industries. Turnover is 30% down, 2 factories closed, many laid off and a wage freeze to boot.

    • 180
      incandescent-with-rage says:

      …..and the rest.

  12. 27
    Hannah Arendt says:

    Have to laugh at that lying scumfuck Coulson at the select committee.

    Apparently he knows nothing about anything, about how hacks go about their work.

    He invites us to believe that he worked for Murdoch rags for 20 years and never saw a hack doing anything untoward, yet this rather unobservant hack is the one who was chosen to edit one of the jewels in Murdoch’s tawdry empire. Hilarious.

    The reality, as the better informed know, is that Murdoch prizes the amoral hack most of all; the scumfuck who will do anything at all and not bat an eyelid. A psychopath fits the bill nicely.

    • 35
      Engineer says:

      A liitle strong.

      Is Coulson as pure as the driven snow, a complete innocent, totally unknowing of any dodgy practice in the world of journalism? Of course not, and Cameron would not have employed him if he was.

      However, if there had been significant evidence of major wrongdoing against Coulson, he would have been in the dock with Goodman and Mulcaire. He wasn’t. Draw your own conclusions.

    • 48
      Andy "amnesiac" Coulson says:

      Not me guv. I seen nuthin.

      • 51
        Cloyingly sanctimonious says:

        Stoppit!

        I’m just a young gay professional, and don’t see anything I’m not supposed to.

        I’m a good boy, but I like to be spanked too. Don’t tell the NotW…

        • 1239
          Queen says:

          But Im just a poor boy and nobody loves me-
          Hes just a poor boy from a poor family-
          Spare him his life from this monstrosity-
          Easy come easy go-,will you let me go-
          Bismillah! no-,we will not let you go-let him go-
          Bismillah! we will not let you go-let him go
          Bismillah! we will not let you go-let me go
          Will not let you go-let me go
          Will not let you go let me go
          No,no,no,no,no,no,no-
          Mama mia,mama mia,mama mia let me go-
          Beelzebub has a Mandy put aside for me,for me,for me-

      • 598
        Tom Watson says:

        Fair one Andy, I did not know what McBride was up to either.

      • 600
        Gordon Brown says:

        Fair one Andy, I did not know what Watson and McBride were up to either

      • 602
        Steven Byers says:

        Fair one Andy, I did not know what Jo Moore was up to either

      • 608
        The labour Party says:

        Fair one Andy, we haven’t a clue what anyone of us is doing either!

    • 50
      The BBC are Vermin says:

      Much like the BBC paying people to go round and heckle Tory candidates then.

    • 57
      Hugh Janus says:

      A bit like McBust denying that he knew anything about huge ‘donations’ to NuLiebour in return for peerages. Beggars belief.

      • 61
        Andy "Amnesiac" Coulson says:

        Too right mate, but keep it on ice cubes.

        See no evil; hear no evil’ speak no evil. No names, no pack drill.

        The public are fuckwits. Unless you blurt it out they can’t work out anything for themselves.

        Just keep telling them you can’t remember anything, and no matter how bizarre that may seem it works. You don’t even have to have Alzheimers like Ronnie Reagan did when he didn’t remember anything.

        If in doubt, keep schtum!

        And always remember, if the going gets tough we always have the police in our back pocket.

    • 91
      An insider says:

      Have no fear laddie. The smoking gun is warm, and Coulson will keep.

      I expect the coup de grace to be delivered round election time.

      You know it makes sense.

      • 99
        Jonty Twatface says:

        No one gives a fuck though do they,lets be honest about it!!

        • 117
          An insider says:

          Well, Mr Twatface. It’s not quite true that no one gives a fuck, but it’s very true that the public at large don’t give much of a fuck, as yet.

          But it doesn’t much matter what the public give a fuck about. When has that ever determined anything.

          That’s why we have a media. They determine what you and the rest of the unwashed give a fuck about.

          You’ll see….

        • 123
          The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976 says:

          Which is particularly galling to the shitheads who are desperately trying to make it an issue.

          Nobody cares you imbeciles, they just want ZaNuLab gone, gone, gone.

          That is something you have yet to realise you dullards, it is all over.

        • 219
          Steve Expat says:

          No-one gives a fuck because Coulson has never taken a dime of Taypayers’ money for whatever he has done. He worked for a private newspaper and now works for a political party.

          Contrast with Guido’s friend Damian, who was being paid a fat salary by all of us yet thought his job included making up lies to try and smear Opposition politicians. One cannot simultaneously work for both the Government and the Party of Government.

        • 243
          thick as thieves says:

          shut up steve you silly hobo.
          david cameron has employed a this wanker from the news of the world and this moron is now saying he knew nuffink about what was goin’ on guv, honest!
          fuck off steve, all that crack has rotted your fucking brain your tramp.
          coulson’s a wanker, a guttersnipe. but never mind that idiot: what this issue does is tell us everything we need to know about david cameron.
          he’s a c’unt.
          dave cameron is as dodgy as fuck. dodgier than del boy.
          innit.
          winning at any cost. just like tony’war criminal’blair.
          just fucking like him.
          fuck dave, dave’s a dodgy c’unt.
          oh, and how is the house hunting going steve?
          not so good eh.
          shame.
          but after all, you are a filthy tory crackhead tramp who smells of piss.
          who the fuck would want to let a dirty c’unt like you live in their house?
          no-one would steve. you are starting to see your problem now, aren’t you?
          I think that we are getting somewhere steve, well done.
          for a skanky smackhead tramp.

        • 251
          Judge, jury and executioner says:

          So Steve Expat doesn’t much mind what newspapers get up to because they’re privately funded; doesn’t mind that they bug citizens; doesn’t mind that they’re in an unholy alliance with the police.

          You’re a bit fucked up in the head, Mr Expat.

        • 336
          Steve Expat says:

          Judge… 248. I don’t particularly see why the Grauniad would have published the story they did the other week if Coulson was not working in the job that he is currently.

          The efforts of the Grauniad and the BBC to compare Coulson to McBride is disengenuous at best – McBride was a public servant, Coulson has not and has never been.

          Coulson has already admitted fucking up (and resigned) after failing to control a journalist who ended up in prison for what he did. The whole story of the last couple of weeks was just dragging up old mud (the police and the PCC confirm this) to discredit Coulson in his current role working for the Conservative party.

        • 471
          Sungei Patani says:

          He was surrounded by journalists when he worked for the NOTW and none of them since have written a story saying he knew about phone tapping or endorsed it.

          It beggars belief that any journalist would not spill the beans if there were any beans to spill

        • 521
          barefootcontessa says:

          The press are sometimes pretty vile. But without them we would be in a poorer state when it comes to holding our political ‘masters’ to account. We are more informed because of them, and the DT have done a grand job in dragging the expenses scandal in to the light.

          Many journalists are the bravest people in society.

        • 705
          Charles E Hogwash says:

          In Russia they are but not in ours.

        • 766
          Steve Expat says:

          Let’s hope Murdoch now goes after the BBC and the Grauniad for this – it’s an obvious 1ib.el of their paper and they have the police and the PCC on their side already.

          That would make for an interesting story over the quiet summer!

        • 769
          Master Baiter says:

          The first thing Murdoch will do is dump Colin Myler for being pathetic in front of the culture committee.
          Look and learn

        • 850
          Steve Expat says:

          You’re right MB, Myler could have done better – but the MPs on the cttee seemed to offer no evidence for their accusations other than what the Grauniad had printed. They had not researched sufficiently and the questioning showed this.

          The whole episode stinks of being politically motivated though, and the story now seems to be dead and buried.

        • 1034
          Troll Basher says:

          Dead and six foot under. But you knows the Labour party …. floggin dead hordes is what the do best.

        • 1190
          Badpeoplerecogniser says:

          These are bad people.

  13. 29
    Pugwashed-out says:

    I saw Guido in RHYL, havin a pint of Guiness whilst doin the Bingo with the rest of the Scallys ‘n’ and Micks.

    Eyes down for a full house…

  14. 32

    Bonjour mon petite lapin! C’est Charles ici

    Ici il fait mauvais temps mal. Il pleut toujours.

    J’espere que le temp fait beau ou vous etes

    Aussi on continue d’avoir un problem avec Charles. It est toujours partout comme un éruption cutanée.

    Bon vacances

  15. 33
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    Think of the expenses that you turned down

  16. 36
    Anonymous says:

    You get your girlfriend to answer the phone for you? :D

  17. 39
    Jimmy says:

    I’m not a theologian but isn’t guido passing up a chance to witter on about McBride one of the signs of the apocalypse?

    • 40
      Dack Blog says:

      How many ’signs’ do you need?

    • 211

      Look on the bright side…
      At least an apocalypse
      will end Gordo’s PMship.
      No more Grauniads printed.
      Al-bbc will go off air.
      The EUSSR will be destroyed.

      • 246
        Pol Pot says:

        I like you Anti Citizen One, you are my kind of guy!

      • 465
        Dack Blog says:

        Somehow I think an apocalypse would make your day, ac1. Sadly.

        • 612

          That’s because you’re a bit naive.

        • 844
          tat says:

          but your religion believes in and prays for the end of the world, doesn’t it?
          what a naive person you are.
          you are as naive and barbaric as the taleban anticitizen.
          you bloody barbarian; maybe one day we will civilise you and your fellow zionist child killing animals.
          personally I don’t think you are worth the effort. after all, cretinous old zionists like you wil soon be dead and then we can enjoy peace once you warmongers have kicked the bucket.
          it is just a matter of time.
          innit.

        • 943
          Dack Blog says:

          I was thinking the same thing about you.

    • 1194
      Electorate says:

      We have been praying that he is begat.No.Sorry.That should read he is begone.

      Flippin well begone.

  18. 45
    McGroom says:

    Now of course the pinko Beeb proles can spin their balance argument stating that they gave Guido his chance and he declined.

    Next you will have Çur Michael White on the phone

    • 49
      Adrian Prole says:

      The big white telephone is the best place for his emissions.

    • 55
      Anonymous says:

      In the spirit of “impartiality” its nice to see the BBC going into overdrive on every news bulletin throughout the day trying to whip up a story over Andy Coulson’s appearance before to-day’s Select Committee.

  19. 52
    nell says:

    BBC’s Head of Drama is coming under fire for writing that:- “the BBC should foster left of centre thinking.” (As though they don’t already!!!)

    And then to try and deflect incoming fire they are now saying that Boris, who is appearing in an episode of Eastenders, is prove that the BEEB doesn’t have a left-wing bias.

    ++++laugh++++

    • 64
      Rant against the Machine says:

      They will no doubt make him out to be only slightly less fruity than Dot Cotton, She’s the token Christian you know.

      • 74
        nell says:

        I wonder if they think Eastenders fosters left of centre thinking?

        And what’s Boris doing appearing in a drama programme anyway? – I thought he was supposed to be Mayor of London. This does not seem to be the way to foster an ‘I’m in charge here’ image.

        • 488
          Observer says:

          Boris needs to be very careful that he doesn’t get sucked-in by the wrong crowd who intend subverting his fine old-style Tory principles to their own wicked ends.
          Boris, we’re watching you for any signs of weakness and moral degeneration as a result of your recent embarrassing dalliances with the enemy. If you’re going to sup with the Devil, best use a very looooonnnnngggg spoon.

      • 81
        Rant against the Machine says:

        I can exclusively reveal that Boris has left his script on the tube and it contains his show stopping scene from Alber Square.

        Mayor of London Enters Queen Vic Stage Right.

        Peggy Mitchell, ” ‘ere wot do you want, GET OUT MY PUB ! ”

        Ricky, “Bianca !

        Bianca, “RICKY ! ”

        Phil Mitchell ” Oi whats goin on ‘ere ? ”

        Boris eixts stage right !

        Everone in the pub break into “Roll out the Barrell ”

        End.

    • 183
      incandescent-with-rage says:

      Is that as opposed to the hard of thinking?

    • 931
      Trevor Brooking says:

      Re item #51, Boris beware – they’ll try the same trick as they attempted on the Queen

  20. 58
    AnonyMousse says:

    I was in Homebase earlier.

    Saw a child’s game in a box – it was called Balls-O-Saurus by Fisher Price.

    So, this is what Ed gets up to in preparation for losing his seat at the next, hopefully soon, general election!

  21. 59
    Bear in mind says:

    Pride comes before a fall.

    Don’t let the DMc result go to your head.

    Time and money (in reality it is your money and even your children’s children’s money) is always on the side of those that tell us that they”govern us”.

  22. 60
    Rant against the Machine says:

    Ring Ring Ring

    No 10. Hi Its Gordon here..
    GF I’m on the beach..
    No 10. Im about to call an elec….
    GF in France
    BBC That you should be first to kn……
    GF No.
    No.10 OK.. do you have Ian Dales number then ?
    GF Au revoir

    • 87
      TOO FAR says:

      Mr Faulks Blimey…. just maybe… youv’e got them worried, The imbelBBCciles
      Have a good drink tonight We all love it!!
      Keep it up. I’m sure the misses will allow a little, well, bit of ??????

      have a good one!!

      • 94
        TOO FAR says:

        Woops nothing rude! I hope…. haven’t seen that comment before…

        • 199
          VZ says:

          Hardwidge, I read what you write

          • Court of Public Opinion says:

            Is that VZ as in Vaz? The nasty, slimy shit-for-brains useless bastard who is no use to man or beast? The media whore who loves the sound of his own patronising voice and who behaves likes a complete arsewipe? Is it? Is it?

            I think we should be told.

          • Jonty's Mate says:

            So do I and he’s by far the best poster on this blog.

  23. 63
    John says:

    You are so important mate. F*ck me.

  24. 65

    Dear Guido

    Treat them mean, keep them keen.

    Nice one.

    Yours sincerely

    George Laird
    The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

  25. 69

    Probably chasing up unpaid taxi bills.

  26. 70

    Labour have completely blown apart the Tory argument that they’re the party of “shrewd business” and “wealth creation”. The Tories are trying to talk us into recession just so they can grab power.

    Labour have the upper hand and the City by its balls which creates scope for developing a better quality finance industry that plays a bigger partnership role instead of scorched earth profiteering.

    Result!

    • 79
      Technomist says:

      Result – 15% of high street shops empty by the end of the year.

    • 87
      Rant against the Machine says:

      Charles you really should stop hanging about those Crack houses, it messes your mind it really does.

    • 105
      The big D says:

      We do not have to be talked into recession, we have already arrived.

      I think the City have the UK population by the balls, it is our money Labour so kindly sprayed about.

      The City and the UK population should be the important elements in your analysis, Labour are irrelevent both in purpose and soon existence.

      • 115
        Grandma B says:

        In my effort to be nice to you Charles, I refuse to say anything regarding the phrase in your last paragraph about where your masters have placed their hands. Could I just suggest that you and they wash their hands afterwards? You know it makes sense!

      • 145
        The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976 says:

        “I think the City have the UK population by the balls,”

        Do try and be a little more observant, the banks, thanks to the lying loon McSnot, have the nations balls in the vice.

        I think you will find a major shareholder in these said banks and their ZaNuLab approved directors, is none other than this ZaNuLab government of all the talentless, witless and feckless.

        • 217

          > The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976

          What absolute clap-trap. We are different from them in this way….

          The U.K. won’t have a rich neighbour who’ll spend money to rebuild the countries infrastructure.

    • 126
      S Pliff says:

      Chas

      Please tell me where you get your ‘gear’ from – it’s got to be some of the best on the market.

    • 131

      do you ever get time for a wank? you write enough about it.

    • 136
      Trough Mixture says:

      The only thing blown apart by NuLab is that fat Hoon Watson’s ample arsecheeks after a taxpayer subsidised Cassoulet too many in one sitting. You’re as mad as that orange kilted fecker that runs in front of F1 cars Charles. Like him, you should be restrained.

      • 279
        Rant against the Machine says:

        That orange Kilted Fecker got a Yes from me. I discovered Leonna Lewis you know .

    • 137
      Arsewidge says:

      Ignore her, she only does for attention, the sick bitch.

    • 182
      incandescent-with-rage says:

      Nurse! Ritolin for Charles, please.

    • 1527
      Jethro says:

      I, in my ‘retirement’ was working a day a week at just above ‘the minimum wage’, until the end of last year: my boss had to shut his shop, and try and keep his business going from his web-site. In nearby towns, there are more ‘Retails Unit To Let’ signs than for as long as anyone can remember.
      Scorched earth, Lord Charles?

    • 1731
      Labour's a busted flush says:

      Labour have blown apart their claim to look after the working classes.

      Bail out the banksters but no money for Chorus and others who employ ordinary people.

      Charles you really are a complete fuckwit; now run off and provide the tax credit people a short threee pagge precis of their fucking rediculous form so that ordinary folk can participate

  27. 89
    Anonymous says:

    Michael White writes in this morning’s Guardian and mentions the hereditary peers by-election. He complains that the breakdown of votes from last week’s election isn’t publiclly available. Except… the result has been online as a pdf on a dedicated page on the Parliament website since about 5 minutes after it was announced last week.

  28. 98

    Dear All

    I see that Gordon Brown has bottled out of calling the Glasgow North East by-election.

    It’s a diehard Labour area and the SNP are the underdogs to try and take the seat.

    If Brown’s arse collapsed in this area, his trousers must be full for Norwich North.

    Roll on Craig Murray, do the business.

    Yours sincerely

    George Laird
    The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

    • 135

      I think they realise they made a bad mistake not doing the 2 together to get the 2 bits of bad news out of the way during the recess, really bad strategy. They would lose to the SNP , no question and the tories in norwich

    • 148
      caesars wife says:

      all smacks of the useual corruption to me , still didnt get to find out what happened on that out of the way postal voting table at gelnrothes?? and the voting record sheet that the sherrif lost (unheard of)

    • 570
      Olaf says:

      Craig Murray had a point when he was a diplomat. Now he is a sad and clapped out prick, rather like you Laird.

      • 742
        barefootcontessa says:

        Good on ye Craig!

      • 803

        Dear Olaf

        OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, such wickedness from you!

        Here is what a fan wrote about me.

        ““No mercy for you, you sick, persecuting bastard. May your filth reach back and kiss you”.

        Seems you are in a minority.

        Yours sincerely

        George Laird
        The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

        • 1200
          Ondaboat says:

          Scusi,meester leerd,

          Where is Glasgow and the nirvana of which you speak?

  29. 116
  30. 138

    By acting in the fear and greed of the moment, folks can seize harder on failing ways, or react in anger and seize other failing ways. This is why calm is important. It allows the mind to clear and create a space where better decisions and sentiments can develop.

    Folks can test this premise for themselves while sitting in board meetings, driving their cars, or something as mundane as posting on the internet. All these things may have a different presentation but they’re all the same thing. One could pay hundreds for a shrink or use this blog for free.

  31. 139

    Testing to see if me blog shows up in a post.

  32. 141
    • 210
      incandescent-with-rage says:

      I wouldn’t have said Charles was English by the words he uses in his posts. I reckon he could be a yank or perhaps a Canadian.

  33. 143
    caesars wife says:

    Snotty has achieved new low , apparently Labour norwich north candidate has collapsed and gone to hospital with Swine flu , later discharged with anti virals (it is after all, no worse than ordinary flu) .

    nothing like a clean fight eh !!

    Ian dale points to the prospect of an empty podium as results are read out .

    desperate stuff from the labour BOTTLERS

    • 200
      Cloyingly sanctimonious. says:

      Well, since you ask. Yes I am gay.

      I’m a young gay media professional in a civil partnership, frottage and felching a speciality.

      Yes, of course you can quote me…

      • 269
        Andy "Amnesiac" Coulson says:

        Dunno. Could be, I suppose. I forget.

        Let’s get together Iain and check it out, eh.

      • 1202
        Pontoon says:

        Yeah,well.The Australian cricket team has a few of them too.We try to keep it low key as most of us don’t know what frottage is and David Boon is our hero.

  34. 150

    Guido please fumigate this blog. It’s completely infested with Hardwidges, they’re everywhere and its getting worse by the day

  35. 153
    streamfisher says:

    Guido you can rest easy on the beach in the knowledge that Charles E Hardwidge, Aka Charles E ardwidge, Aka Charls E Hardwidge, will keep your blog nicely ticking over until you return, 24 hours is no longer enough time to bury bad news, and there was also the small matter of 768 Billion?, 768 FUCKING BILLION?, 56% of annual GDP. The BBC, Aka Italy in the axis of evil (1940’s style) say buy the chef a new set of saucepans on expenses.

  36. 159
    Blackburn Raver says:

    Does anyone buy a TV licence anymore?

    • 169
      D MCBRIDE ESQ says:

      Not since Alan Yentob ate my dog.

    • 215
      Moley says:

      No.

    • 239

      Only suckers fund their enemy.

      • 266
        Blackburn Raver says:

        I enjoy the threatening letters and the fuckwits they send round.
        “we’d like a look round your house” .
        “you can if you tell me where you live and let me look round yours”.

        • 530
          A Rottie Is For Life Not Just For Christmas says:

          Just tell them “have you met Killer my pet Rottweiler?”

      • 307
        thick as thieves says:

        have you any idea at all how much cold, hard cash in US dollars that the american army and cia lost in Afghanistan? just dropped.
        billions of dollars, billions.
        and furthermore, do you know how much ammunition and weapons and exlosives remain unaccounted for?
        tonnes and tonnes and tonnes, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of rounds and hundreds and hundreds of explosives.
        the americans negligence regarding munitions and cash security is what armed and funded the enemy.
        the fucking cretins.
        and to this day we still do not know the american army and airforces rules of engagement. and as we do not know, we cannot take precautions against the loss of soldiers lives due to what appears to be an open fire rule of engagement employed by the trigger happy american army.
        it is simply not fucking good enough.
        but to get back to your point anticitizenone, yes, only suckers fund their enemy.
        that makes the united states of america the biggest sucker on the planet.
        innit.
        FUCK THIS SHIT – TROOPS OUT NOW!
        NOTE TO BROWN: YOU SENT BRAVE MEN ON A SUMMER OFFENSIVE WITH INSUFFICIENT HELICOPTER SUPPORT.
        THEY NEVER HAD A FUCKING CHANCE YOU C’UNT.
        YOU ARE GUILTY OF THE CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE OF SENDING MEN FORWARD WITH INSUFFICIENT AIR SUPPORT KNOWING SUCH A DECISION WOULD LEAD TO EXTRA, UNECESSARY LOSS OF LIFE.
        GORDON BROWN YOU HAVE BEEN FOUND GUILTY AND MAY YOUR SOUL ROT IN HELL FOR BETRAYING OUR SOLDIERS YOU FUCKING DOG.
        YOU HAVE SOLD OUT YOUR COUNTRY.
        BUT THE AMERICANS ARE VERY PLEASED WITH YOU GORDON.
        YOU HAVE SERVED YOUR MASTERS WELL.
        RESIGN NOW MOTHERFUCKER.
        DEATH DEATH DEATH WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR BULLSHIT: RESIGN.
        TROOPS OUT

        • 334
          nell says:

          Insufficient Helicopter Support. Thank you Tat!!!

          Whilst we’re on it- let’s mention 40 year old Nimrods ‘not fit for purpose’ and the need for 2000 more men on the ground.

          Of course, it’s a lost cause now because gordon and bob’notuptothejob’ have gone on holiday until October 12th – so anybody dying in Afghanistan between now and then is not their responsibility.

        • 499
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Nell, you’re at it again________what did I tell you?

        • 617
          See You Next Tuesday says:

          Good post TaT and the first of yours that makes complete sense. Are you softening in your dotage?

          btw, can you deal with the idiot in shorts? You obviously have much more free time than I do.

        • 637
          Sarge says:

          Forget helicoptors. It’s worse than that:
          ‘Army bomb expert killed trying to clear the way for vital supplies” is the headline under which Nicholas Cecil, chief political correspondent for The Evening Standard writes today.

          Captain Daniel Shepherd died instantly when the makeshift bomb he was trying to defuse exploded in the Nad-e Ali District in Helmand province, southern Afghanistan. A member of his team suffered minor injuries. Capt Shepherd, 28, from 11 Explosive Ordnance Disposal Regiment, The Royal Logistic Corps, was leading a team trying to clear a route for a convoy to re-supply Nato troops and the local population.

          This raises serious questions. There is a whole raft of kit available for this task. Why wasn’t it available?

          The job starts with the Buffalo It can expose an IED and the claw apparatus can be used to rip away any command wires, if that is the method of triggering employed. The manual disturbance will trigger any motion-sensitive booby trap.

          If the bomb is still live, it can be investigated by a remote robot A shotgun fitted to the robot can be used to blast the detonator and thus disable it. Failing that, the robot can be used to place an explosive charge on the device, blowing it up and thereby neutralising it. Damage to roads and other structures can then be dealt with by armoured engineering vehicles.
          Only in extreme cases, where there is imminent risk of loss of life without intervention, should an attempt be made by a bomb disposal officer personally to disarm a device. There are no indications that this was the case here.

          However, as to the kit, therein lies the tale. Kit such as the Buffalo is not yet in theatre. The US forces have them, the Canadians have them and the French also have them. But, despite a call for them to be provided in 2005 – the MoD did not think they were necessary. They were not ordered, therefore, until last October and will not arrive until next year’

          So it’s 1940’s technology we are using.

          Ainsworth,Hutton, Brown – where the fuck have you been since 2005. I bet you don’t travel round in unarmoured vehicles, even in London. You must be so proud of yourselves

        • 804
          Anonymous says:

          Thank you Sarge. They don’t even have the kit (robots) that’s been available since the late ’80s in NI.

          Shame we haven’t heard where the Browns are holidaying this summer, Suffolk’s out, “so last year — when we were pretending to be patriotic”. Booby trap all private islands just in case — who knows we might get lucky.

        • 1039
          Troll Basher says:

          They don even have bullets now. They have to points there fingers at the Taliban and go “peow! peow!” No wonder were losin.

      • 498
        5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

        Aunty – cancel your subscription to the tory party then you fuckwit, if you don’t want to fund your enemy.

        • 614

          Socialism in all it’s evil forms is my enemy.

        • 691
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Take PERSONAL reponsibility moron — your “enemy” (if there be such a thing) are forces that work against you achiving your OWN ultimate personal development potential. Jettison your bitterness and antagonism to others and be a member of a COMMUNITY for once in your miserable self seeking, short-sighted, selfish life. STOP being anti everything and be PRO something by helping your fellow wman, you piece of shit.

        • 745
          barefootcontessa says:

          SS, there’s some sense there, somewhere.

        • 779
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Thank you Contessa, ‘ppreciate it. *cuddles*

        • 1040
          Troll Basher says:

          Theres more sense in a dog t­urds

    • 1204
      localfighter says:

      I do.However,if you read the local rag all those caught are single women? They are probably on benefits?The TV is is a big help?

  37. 160
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    McFired

    • 264
      Andy "Amnesiac" Coulson says:

      I think I may have resigned, but I’m not sure. I forget. I have no recollection etc…

  38. 165
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    McFired would still be in a job if he hadnt taken up with that fat lying slob.
    Then he also took up with Derek Assraper and made it all worse.
    Fucking old before his time wanker.

  39. 170
    Hugh Jardon says:

    ‘tiddle hee tiddle hee tiddle hee’..
    “Hi Hugh speaking”
    “Hi Hugh..it’s Kate…”
    “Which Kate?”
    “The one that you back scuttled over the bonnet of your spitfire”
    ” May have…don’t forget, Kate”
    ” Sorry Hugh, Yes..May have back scuttled over the bonnet of your Spitfire!”
    “So, Kate..how can I help you?”
    ” I just wondered how you are?”
    “I’m OK..can I go now, I’m a bit busy right now!”
    ” (sobbing quietly)…Ok, Hugh, till the next time”

  40. 171
    grobdj says:

    No worries Guido, although the trolls (and McBride) may play while you are away, they are but underlings who will have to scurry back to their goblinmeisters when the silly season is over

    There is nothing, I say again, nothing like being your own boss

    NO PRISONERS!!!

  41. 172
    D MCBRIDE ESQ says:

    YOUR ALL JEALOUS

  42. 177
    Jonty's Mate says:

    Nells vagina looks like a dropped pie.

    • 178
      grobdj says:

      Is that a comment or a cryptic crossword clue?

    • 222
      nell says:

      Well Damian this, of course, is the sort of comment that got you the sack.

      This is the level of ‘debate’ that you registered the redrag site for.

      And although Guido allows these comments on his site, rightly, I might say, because it exposes the intellectual corruption of labour, he neither encourages them nor makes them.

      That is the very significant difference between you. The truth is Guido holds the moral high ground.

    • 308
      Darcy says:

      Sorry, and you are perfect of course. You rude, rude, piece of garbage. Being in this Socialist Wonderland takes me back to the School Playground. Moron. I cannot wait to take you Socialist arsewipes out, biding time, biding time.

      • 351
        Jonty's Mate says:

        You going to take me out to the pub, that’s kind of you Darcy.

        Nell have your tits rotted off yet.

        • 373
          nell says:

          Dear Damian it is very good of you to show us what you wanted to make of “redrag

          Well Done!!!!

        • 382
          Jonty's Mate says:

          nelly the elephant i think you know more about making red rags than i do love. what’s up?? time of the month again?

        • 409
          Augeas says:

          Fuck off back to your MP boss, you pathetic ZaNu stooge. Are we going to have to put up with this shit all summer while you post your kindergarten personal crap on here? Put your real name on here, so we can find out if we are paying for you out of our hard-earned taxes.

        • 413
          Jonty's Mate says:

          No one needs to pay me numbnuts i’m set for life, i’ve got so much money i can fill a swimming pool with it, But i’m not a sad tory tosser like the rest of you and i’ll be using my funds for the benefit of the impoverished labour voters throughout the country.

        • 416
          nell says:

          Jonty’s mate – presumably you are (edB, charlieW, tomW, damian, derek or p.hope)

          Enjoy darlings!!

          Labour is enjoying a slow car crash.

        • 426
          Jonty's Mate says:

          Hey Nellie babe i hope you enjoy my comeback to government soon. The first thing i’ll do is cancel your fuel allowance.

          You’ve obviously got enough time and energy on your hands to be knitting cardigans to keep you warm along with the hot air you blow on Geedots blog.

        • 441
          Augeas says:

          The poor are voting B – N – P now. The only ones left voting labour are the payroll voters. And the only thing you could fill a swimming pool with is piss.
          And one last thing, Damian, I have never voted Tory in my life. But I just might, to ensure scum like you never get the chance to fuck up this country again.

        • 448
          Jonty's Mate says:

          The Nazis can only muster up a million votes don’t make me laugh. Labours a part of the political landscape forever and i only piss in posh tory toffs pools.

  43. 181
    mr pants says:

    I would have been more succinct

    BBC: Hello this is the BBC.
    Mr Pants: Fuck off.

  44. 212
    nell says:

    The BBC is ageist so I do hope that damian isn’t thinking, if his return to school doesn’t work out, and gordon gets knocked out of the next election so ending his hope of getting back onto the civil service gravy train, that he might make a career at the BEEB.

    Sorry Sweetie but you look older than TomW, not so wide of girth perhaps but very similar.

    What a dynamic, squeaky clean, baby kissing, save the world team you made with charliew and edb at no.10!!!!

    • 271
      Jonty's Mate says:

      Nell the last person, I’ll take advice on looks and fashion from is you love.

      • 293
        stilyagi_air_corps says:

        Technique 4b: Assuming personal knowledge when none exists.

        Example: Jonty’s Mate is still a virgin.

      • 384
        nell says:

        I’m glad you’ve acknowledged that you’re damian.

        Freud says acknowledgement of one’s own weakness is the first step to personal enlightenment.

        Of course, the greater good will come when gordon admits he is out of his depth and that the economy and the war in afghanistan needs someone more intellectual to take control – because gordon sure can’t do it!!!!

        • 389
          Jonty's Mate says:

          Nelly dear if you weren’t so full of shit then obviously you would get off your fat ass and you’d be running the country and not my mate Jimmy Brown if you think your so clever.

          But obviously reality is no friend to you.

          Long Live Labour

        • 432
          nell says:

          Indeed Jonty – 18 dead- 157 seriously injured –

          Because this seriously, mentally ill PM can’t take financial decisions re+ nimrods and helicopters.

          He stands by, helplessly watching as squad after squad gets killed by the ‘Alky Ada’ insurgents …………………………………………………

        • 445
          Jonty's Mate says:

          What about the solidiers killed by the Tories since the 80’s. Soldiers die in war not much you can do about it.

          Is the alzheimer’s finally setting in nelly and making you forget??

          Poor Nelly you should use the NHS that’s what you pay your taxes for.

        • 1364
          tat says:

          said the nutter on a section 3.

  45. 225
    NewGirl says:

    ha ha Guido, like your style… As, I’m sure, does Mrs Fawkes.

  46. 227

    Good for you. Don’t forget to ring back some over-ripe foi gras for Charles Hardwidge.

  47. 234
    VZ says:

    brown the fat wankstain jock bastard has left Britain vulnerable to becoming a chinese takeaway

    ft.com – Beijing will use its foreign exchange reserves, the largest in the world, to support and accelerate overseas expansion and acquisitions by Chinese companies, Wen Jiabao, the country’s premier, said in comments published on Tuesday.

  48. 240

    He who loves 50 people has 50 woes; he who loves no one has no woes.

    • 253
      NewGirl says:

      But you’re the one no one loves Charles. So how many woes does that leave you with?

      • 287

        but i do like to be wooed, so feel free to be a wooed as you like!

        • 312
          Engineer says:

          Looks like you’ve been stood up, Charlie!

        • 320
          NewGirl says:

          more likely to be a rude to CH, never mind a wooed…

        • 333
          Engineer says:

          While the cat’s away, the mice will play. We seem to have had serious troll infestations the last few nights. I see TaT is lurking further up the thread, as well.

        • 349
          NewGirl says:

          Ah. I’ve not been around much but I did see….I don’t mind the odd bit of trolling, but Hardwedge is doing a very good sabotage job on this blog at the mo, as is that S.p.i.do S..h..orts idiot. I’m sure its an organised attack by a number of Labourlist darleks. I’m working on just not reading them, they are very easy to avoid, luckily.

        • 383
          Engineer says:

          They’ve got a new trick of identity theft to add to their repertoire. Think they imitated you at about 6-45pm last night, NG. Sneaky, but you can usually tell real from scammers.

        • 391
          NewGirl says:

          Did they? Bastards. At least you can usually tell. I’m witty, vivacious and intelligent. It’s easy to spot the difference, therefore!

        • 403
          Engineer says:

          With a certain style and je-ne-sais-quoi thrown in. Not easily imitated; as indeed, true quality rarely is…

        • 407
          NewGirl says:

          :-) You deserve nothing less Eng!

        • 420
          Engineer says:

          :-)

        • 1425
          number 10's cat says:

          Get a room!

        • 1544
          Jethro says:

          As Wooed as I like? Really? Really, really – and no ‘paxes’?
          As wood as I like?
          Right then:-
          “Zylem!”

    • 288
      Engineer says:

      He who loves 50 people very knackered.

      • 301
        Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

        People? Nice to see we’re using non-gender specific language in this fine blog.

        • 311
          Engineer says:

          Just following the lead of the great Charles Hardwidge (and I don’t suppose I’ll type that very often!)

    • 289
      GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

      bROWNWIDGE EVERYBODY FUCKING hates YOU. YOU TIT !

    • 497
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      You clowns don’t know what you have among you in this man Charles, he is s-p-e-c-i-a-l *respect* him – you only make yourselves look foolish by your failure to acknowledge his lights.

      • 524
        barefootcontessa says:

        So now we know SS, you two are working as a team? Sheep dog and terrier springs to mind. How can you possibly defend that old predictable fossil CH?!

        • 635
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          Nah, nah , nah — I don’t know CH from Adam — what I do respect about him is the fact that he speaking knowledgably from the basis of a thing called “Taoism” that I am a mere student of…that guy knows his stuff and it shines through……THOSE THAT KNOW DO NOT SAY – THOSE THAT SAY DO NOT KNOW, that kinda thing, see?

        • 755
          barefootcontessa says:

          Trouble is, I don’t now know if I know or now I don’t know.

        • 783
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          then you are wise indeed.

        • 788
          Troll Basher says:

          Team??? Monkeys and Organ Grinder.

          Master Bator, Spaedo and Hardwedge

          TAT is independent LOL

        • 1419
          GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

          Organ Grinder and Monkey more like !

        • 1426
          number 10's cat says:

          Organ basher even

      • 647
        Freud says:

        Please take your medicine. I know that being scottish and a labour supporter are tough ailments to overcome. 12 years of spin have destroyed your capacity for rational thought. There is a cure. Please purchase volume 1 of the Great Speeches of Margaret Thatcher. Listen to them 500 times each. Once you have done so,you will begin to recover rational thought.

        Repeat after me ‘This lady is not for turning’

        • 757
          barefootcontessa says:

          Don’t be rude about the Scots, they are a very talented people. It isn’t their fault that the gorgon and many of his colleagues were born in Scotland. Margaret Thatcher was born in England, we don’t all hate the English because of that, do we?

        • 789
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Thank you Contessa, you revive my faith in human nature. For that nutter’s benefit I heard most of Margaret Thatcher’s speeches live (or editied highlights of them) coz I am old enough to have lived through her period in office.

          IN HINDSIGHT she may well have been right in many things but the main objection people had to her at the time was the IMMENSE risk she was taking with other people’s lives and futures and communities: in a democracy people are supposed to be consulted but she rode roughshod over everybody whereas if she had consulted people and slowed down the pace of change people might have been less anatgonsitic toward her.

          It is not very often helpful to bring up events of the year 1603 AD but, the fact is, that as part of the Act of Settlement it was agreed that Scotland (with its smaller population) ought never to be used as a guinea pig for English legislation but that is what Thatch did – she imposed the poll tax on us and ended up paying the price of her error by eventually getting sacked by her party.

        • 1030
          barefootcontessa says:

          In hindsight she wasn’t right about anything. She was an opinionated woman who was mainly driven by efforts to defend her father, who (she thought) had been hard done by.

          She was clever but in a very limited way. Her favourite occupation being to rule the roost over her almost exclusively male cabinet. Personally I think she is/was an appalling example of a female, ruthless, narrow minded, strident and unsympathetic.

        • 1032
          barefootcontessa says:

          Unfortunately my critical comments about Margaret Thatcher have been moderated. Is Mrs. Thatcher a ‘no go’ area?

        • 1131
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Contessa, I reckon if that old bastard gets a state funeral there will be riots on the streets.

  49. 245
    ian lavender boy says:

    Whistle while you work,
    Arsewedge is a twerp,
    He’s half barmy,
    So’s his army,
    Arsewedge is a twerp.

  50. 247
    nell says:

    Frank Field, last night, demanded the abolition of the BBC “as we know it”

    Frank would cut the current £143 license fee and dump reality tv (oh yes please)

    He has produced a report entitled “Auntie’s Dying”

    That’s very apt – it applies to labour as well – but I do hope that Frank holds onto his constituency seat – we need his sane voice in parliament after the 2010 GE.

    • 260
      grobdj says:

      Not much danger of him losing his seat, maybe it’s time for him to shed the chains and give back his party membership card – after all, they ceased to be the Labour Party “as we know it” some time ago

      As for the BBC, since it’s good enough for civil service employees, just insert the line:

      ‘to carry out my duties in an apolitical manner’ into BBC employment contracts, and all will be fine

    • 317
      Mrs Fanny Field says:

      ‘That’s very apt – it applies to labour as well – ‘ –no it does not. He was talking about BBC and only the BBC.

    • 357
      Engineer says:

      I believe he has also suggested selling BBC1, Radio 1 and Radio 2.

      I would add:

      1) The disbandment of BBC News, and it’s reconstruction with journalists recruited from adverts placed across the full political spectrum of the quality press (but Edward Stourton would be allowed back in).

      2) The disbandment of BBC Comedy and it’s replacement with some real comedy.

      3) All Drama and Light Entertainment producers should be made to watch repeats of “All Creatures Great and Small” to see how it should be done.

      4) Test Match Special and Gardener’s Question Time sould be elevated to National Treasure status.

      5) “One Man and his Dog” to be reinstated to the airwaves, with Robin Page as presenter.

      6) Jeremy Clarkson to be replaced by someone with a brain.

      • 388
        nell says:

        I’d agree with that .

        • 395
          Jonty's Mate says:

          Nell you’d agree that the sky was green and the moon was made of cheese your that senile.

        • 400
          Engineer says:

          Point 1. Go and learn some manners.

          Point 2. Go and learn some grammar.

      • 397
        Engineer says:

        And I forgot to add the casting to Outer Darkness with no right of return for Jonathon Woss.

        • 405
          NewGirl says:

          No Wight of Weturn, you mean, Eng!

        • 412
          Jonty's Mate says:

          I don’t need grammer after three bottles of magners you dozy bastard. I don’t need to proof read and spellcheck for any mugs in the civil service anymore.

          Guido did me a favour really by unshackling me from my bonds i can run black ops now.

        • 427
          Engineer says:

          Spelling as well…..

          What went wrong with your education, Jonty’s Mate?

        • 434
          Jonty's Mate says:

          Tory scum

        • 442
          Engineer says:

          Wrong.

          I’ve never been a member of any political party, nor have I ever (knowingly) made a political donation, nor have I ever taken payment for any work for a political party, nor have I ever undertaken any voluntary work for any political party.

          If you do your research, and read my previous posts, you will find out where I am coming from.

        • 456
          Engineer says:

          Time for a bit of kip. If anybody posts under my screen-name before tomorrow morning, they are trolls.

          G’Night all. Sleep well.

        • 1421
          GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

          Bet that was a job and a half getting three empty magners bottles up jontys arse !

  51. 249
    michael says:

    WTF is this blog coming to Fawkes? There’s more Fuckwidges and nellies you can shake a stick at, and it’s become invested by pensionable cricket bores droning on about the fucking weather.

    Stats aren’t everything you know.

    • 255
      Andy "Amnesiac" Coulson says:

      Yeah Guido. Bug a few more phones and emails.

      Givus the juicy shit. And make sure you get some tit piccies from French noodie beaches.

      • 261
        McBride of Wankenstain says:

        Oh, and don’t forget to suggest that someone had a disabled child because they had a sexual disease. Show some fucking professionalism.

    • 270
      nell says:

      damian and draper – what a surprise to find you here.

      • 273
        Jonty's Mate says:

        Go knit some socks and keep paying your taxes that’s a good old dear.

        • 283
          Engineer says:

          Past your bedtime isn’t it son? Now off and read your Beano, and you can play with the grown-ups tomorrow.

        • 298
          stilyagi_air_corps says:

          Technique 2: Verbal Bullying

          Example: Go fill some socks and scratch on for the rest of your miserable life. You probably *are* Jonty’s Mate (note singular).

        • 364
          Engineer says:

          If there’s some knitting going on, I’d rather have a balaclava please nell.

        • 379
          Engineer says:

          Engineer at 10-19pm. Not the real one.

        • 650
          Freud says:

          Which think tank/quango/MP do you work for. Do tell?

    • 305
      iVE PUT A CONTRACT ON BROWN WIDGE says:

      NOUT WRONG WITH A GOOD PAIR OF NELLIES LAD !

  52. 258
    Andy "Amnesiac" Coulson says:

    He’s a total fuckwit that bloke. Absolutely no comments on his crap blog.

  53. 278

    [...] :: Question of Priorities [...]

  54. 284

    I’ve enjoyed the chat and banter on here today. I’ve been very good

    • 303
      iVE PUT A CONTRACT ON BROWN WIDGE says:

      yOU ARE FUCKING UP THIS SITE YOU SAD LONELY LITTLE TWAT ! NAH WOMAN AND NAH FUCKING MATES JUST EAT SHIT AND DIE YOU SAD TWAT !

    • 325
      iVE PUT A CONTRACT ON BROWN WIDGE says:

      Smallwidgie you really are” Laa Laa” Stop playing with your “Tinky Winky” and making a mess with your “Tubby Custard !” Go sit on your “Po” See if you can have a” Dipsy “Shout” Eh! HO! ” and mummy might give you a “Big Hug”

  55. 291
    The PM shouldn't be disturbed but this cunt is says:

    Guido’s missed a trick there, the researcher rang him to explore the notion that McBride is a lying Kuuuuuuuunt

    Kunt Brown had no idea of the hate filled, twisted lies McKunt was attempting to spread…..HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  56. 309

    I’m way ahead of the curve:

    1) I invented the concept of graphics fidelity
    2) I coined the phrase “Broken Britain”
    3) I’ve been quoted by the international media

    The only comments worth reading on this blog are mine. Jeez, if people just listened to me, the world would be a far better place!

    • 315
      Engineer says:

      You know, Charles, you’re the only person I know that can type in scribble.

      • 340
        Steve Expat says:

        Engineer, you’re probably better off not wasting your valuable time reading his drivel!

      • 342
        Steve Expat says:

        I wouldn’t waste your time reading it – I’m sure no-one else does!

    • 328
      iVE PUT A CONTRACT ON BROWN WIDGE says:

      The only twat that reads or infact replys to them is YOU ! You sad twat !

    • 338
      the dark side of damian mcbride says:

      That isn’t the real Arsewidge you muppets.

      • 393
        Correcting Mr Muppet says:

        Dear muppet ! HARDWIDGE IS THE SAD TWAT WHO@S NAME APPEARS IN BLUE CLICK IT AND IT LEADS TO THE LIE-BORE LIST OR NOW TELLY TUBBIES .

    • 495
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      True enough, credit where it’s due, there is a certain insightfulness there for those discerning enough to detect it.

    • 1551
      Jethro says:

      …AND, I’m the only monomaniac I’m interested in talking to!

  57. 319

    Nicely done, Guido!

    Have a good, relaxing evening!

    Hope your weather’s better than we are having. Very wet.

  58. 329
  59. 339
    Jonty's Mate says:

    Nell it’s time for your lithium dear.

  60. 346

    Most of the egos in here are mere stepping stones to illuminating DEAR LEADER’S greater glory. I’m sure when his benevolent light and grace shines unto the new converts they will rise, nay, ascend to the occasion – their little hearts beating with joy and wonderment.

    Be still, grasshopper.

    • 355
      stefanie powers says:

      Fuck off back to North Korea you mad cυnt.

    • 583
      JMT says:

      You sound like that evil psycho in manhunter – I am becoming, witness his radiance, the dragon rampant etc etc.

      He was full of mad dog shite too.

  61. 348
    Jonty's Mate says:

    Charles my dear fellow as the great Buddha once said;

    A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker.

    As you prove time and time again.

    May you continue to shine the light and educate these tory cretins.

  62. 350
    McMental hits the lakes to get away from it all says:

    O/T Our lads still Ill Equipt and The politicl scum fuck off on 14 weeks jollies . Leaving them to it ! May the shit on both sides of “The Shit HOUSE” Rot in hell for Their War Crimes !

  63. 354
    nell says:

    Sorry – just have to post this – Milburn says the professions are stopping graduates from comprehensive schools becoming lawyers, doctors, engineers surveyors etc etc.

    OK! Public schools account for 7% of our educational system. that wouldn’t even fill our requirement for :-

    doctors in the nhs -engineers, surveyors, chemists, paramedics, biologists, people like dr david kelly (he who this labour govt. killed off) , teachers, nurses, soldiers in afghanistan (everyone in fact that this government has abandoned) …………………….

    • 361
      Jonty's Mate says:

      Nell don’t bite the hand that feeds.

      • 563
        rentakoan says:

        Tell that to Gordon!

      • 1555
        Jonty's Mate Jethro says:

        Sorry: got taken short there, or cut short, rather. Should have been:
        “… Nell, don’t bite the hand that feeds lies.”

    • 365
      Darcy says:

      So what is new, three times voted in and you are surprised! Oh please all this indignation. Oops sorry, since 1923 of course nobody knew about the Labour Party. How wonderful it would be to live in their World. Give me a break. A little education is very dangerous in the wrong hands!

    • 370
      PT Barnum says:

      The figures are for public and private schools:

      50% doctors
      70% army officers
      75% judges

      He views such schools as having the right approach to teaching the best and brightest and would therefore like more state school pupils to be subsidised to attend them.

      So that’ll be Labour equality, then. Dump the average, the mediocre and the academically poor into the failing state sector, send the best into the private sector at taxpayers expense.

    • 377
      Engineer says:

      Milburn is spouting through his…. well, yes. The desperate attempts of a failed government to deflect attention from the results of their incompetence is having some effect on the BBC and in the Grauniad (surprise, surprise) but probably nowhere else.

      The professions, by definition, require people of integrity and quality, and they will select the best available. The best thing Milburn and his cronies can do to ensure that people from less-well-off backgrounds (who may well have the required integrity and quality) is to improve the standards of state education. Why this blindingly obvious truth escapes them is a mystery to most people.

      • 673
        Pontius The Pilot says:

        What the fuck would Milburn know about the professions?

        Has he ever been a professional anything except a politician and Union man???

        Er….. NO.

        More fucking class envy bollocks social engineering. They cant fucking leave it alone.

        Theres always going to be an underclass that cant be arsed to do anything. There will always be the poor. Thats life, shit happens, you cant engineer it out.

        What these fuckers will end up with is the old Soviet Union where EVERYONE, except the nomenklatura and the apparatchiks will be poor, whilst those fuckers keep up with their troughing hoonery.

        Champagne Socialist Wankers, all of them.

        • 761
          barefootcontessa says:

          Don’t worry about milburn, he’s only shadow boxing. Still working for the gorgon. I’d like to know what milburn is getting out of his good timing with announcement of the report on an ‘unfair society’?

  64. 356
    Blackburn Raver says:

    By the time your 40 you end up with the face you deserve.Is McBride really 35?

  65. 359

    ‘Be’ rather than ‘by’. DOH!

  66. 375
    Jonty's Mate says:

    When is the family going to pack you off to the care home Nell???

    • 381
      Darcy says:

      orry Jonty old chap, waiting for you to reply to me, I have paid tax in this Country from Overseas and National Insurance also. I am a daughter of Thatcher, you know I can think for myself and see the World as my Oyster. But, I have swilled money down drains to keep the dregs of this Country in “Poverty” that they seem to wallow in. What would you suggest is the way forward?

      • 386
        Jonty's Mate says:

        I thought it was obvious the glorious stewardship of Labour is the only way forward and my reply is at the bottom of the page.

    • 573
      rentakoan says:

      Would that be a New Labour State run care home, Jonty’s Mate? Strange how you use it as a threat…
      What *is* it with white, middle-class *biens pensants* and bullying the old?
      Ah, of course, cowardice.

  67. 376
    Jonty's Mate says:

    Only if your English

  68. 380

    In these difficult times we must all strive towards self improvement and look to others from our political class to whom we would aspire. The Labour party has many leading members who are beacons of light to whom we can look up to and admire. We can model ourselves on the fine example they have set confident in fulfilment and admiration. They are Gods chosen people sent into the world to deliver his word on fairness, LGBT rights and equality. I personally have strived to live up to the exceptionally high standard set by Harriet Harman who is undoubtedly the greatest politician of her generation after Gordon Brown. The public really should be grateful and count their blessings. It is a tragedy that a man of principle and good heart such as Damian McBride has been allowed to fall victim to the vicious and ultra cynical right wing blogosphere. Just light Lord Mandelson he shall return ever stronger.

    • 385
      Charles "the lights are on but nobody is in" Hardwidge says:

      The Labour Parteh are paying me £6.50 an hour for this shite, and you expect this bollocks to make any sense?

      • 392
        Jonty's Mate says:

        The going rate was 9.78 an hour actually, Quite popular with the student activists. But it all had to be downscaled because of the party debts.

        • 402
          snark says:

          First they try chimps, then they downscale to Labour student activists. How much further down the scale can you go FFS?

        • 410
          Engineer says:

          They pay ten quid an hour for this shit? They are desperate….

        • 425
          PT Barnum says:

          Have you just breached the Official Secrets Act?

        • 430
          Jonty's Mate says:

          FOI it if you don’t believe me and you’ve got cash to burn.

        • 479
          Steve Expat says:

          They seriously pay a tenner an hour to troll blogs like this, where all they do is get shot down by everyone? No wonder the Liebour party is bank.rupt.

          Can’t wait until the GE when they can’t afford billboards and leaflets, and possibly try to get away with spending our money on them instead.

          Make note of all the MPs paying way above market rates for offices in the constituency party offices out of their expenses…

        • 494
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Was Jonty mating with you when you wrote that shite?

        • 576
          stilyagi_air_corps says:

          J’s M – Your foot’s bleeding, and I smell smokeless propellant.

        • 654
          Freud says:

          Oh good, Presumably your contract will be up soon?

    • 492
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      halelujah and amen to that….well said Charles.

    • 496
      albacore says:

      “Just light Lord Mandelson he shall return ever stronger.”
      Have you and your little pals been playing with matches again, Chuckie, you naughty boy?

  69. 387
    Dr Feelgood says:

    Found this thanks to ConservativeHome: Excoriating attack on Brown and Labour by C Hitchens:

    “But what shocked me much more was how unshocked the Labour Party was. “Put it like this,” said a stalwart old comrade of mine. “The Tories and the press are only now finding out how Brown has been bullying and threatening his own colleagues.” Fat Boy McBride, of course, was given the heave-ho as soon as his picknose activity was unmasked, and it was claimed, as is customary, that he had acted alone and without permission from his boss. I have asked around a good deal and have not met or heard from anyone—anyone—who believes that this cover story is true. Instead, and this in a party that used to pride itself on open debate, you hear dreadful whispers about carpet-biting, furniture-hurling spasms by someone whose contorted face reproduces the awful slobbering mask of a weak king.”

    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/hitchens200908?printable=true&currentPage=all

    Includes many examples (some new to me) of the deep weirdness, vindictiveness and dark heart of the man in charge of our country. Enjoy…

    • 423
      PT Barnum says:

      Thank you for that link, much appreciated. I’ve been waiting to read Christopher Hitchens on GB for ages and it’s pretty damn good, in a grim, restrained way, appropriate to the mournful feelings of all former Labour party idealists.

      How the hell did this shower/Ken Livingstone manage to get rid of the editor of the New Statesman? Stalin, 1984, North Korea, we’re in the midst of a clandestine junta.

    • 433
      NewGirl says:

      Thanks.

    • 481
      Steve Expat says:

      Very good article. Needs to be written somewhere a little more popular with the masses than Vanity Fair though – maybe the Sun if Murdoch’s fed up enough with the Hoon?

      • 1044
        barefootcontessa says:

        Not that keen on C Hitchens, but this is an effective , well written piece of journalism. Bit ’shudder’ making!

    • 491
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      C Hitchins is an alocoholic fruitcake.

      • 605
        stilyagi_air_corps says:

        Speedo Shorts is a tedious bore. So what?

        • 638
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          well, so that you can take that into account in arriving at your own view about things, thta’s all. Some people would lke you to think that every he [CH] says is true simply coz he’s been on the telly and that ain’t true – he’s corrupt (bat that’s another story) and some people would like you to thing I am wrong all the time coz I am boring – but that aint true either – sometimes I am right and sometimes I am wrong. Think for your effing self and come to your OWN conclusions, eh?!

      • 1566
        Jethro says:

        “…alocoholic…” …alco-hiccup… alc – I’m going to get it right thish time! … Al-Qu-Wallop!’
        There! Shed I c’d do itsss.
        Shober azh a judz, I am… ashober azhajudz…judghz…zzzzzzz

  70. 394
    So17 says:

    On BBC news interactive Guido was referred to not by name but just as ‘A blogger’ in the item concerning McBride.
    Punishment perhaps for not playing ball.
    Fuck the BBC. I stopped paying the licence fee ages ago.
    See tv licence resistance for details.
    Sorry I can’t do links I’m a bit shit at this internet thingy.

    • 447
    • 483
      Steve Expat says:

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8158483.stm

      Damian McBride, the Downing Street aide who quit over e-mail smears about the Tories, says Gordon Brown was so angry at the time he could hardly speak.

      In his first broadcast interview since he resigned, the former special adviser told the BBC he was ashamed of the lurid e-mails he wrote from Number 10.

      He left his post in April after a blogger revealed their contents.

      So angry at what was going on, or so angry that it had found its way to “A Blogger” and then on to the Murdoch Sundays??

      • 784
        So17 says:

        Many thanks Anon and Steve. I will learn the way of the ‘Computermibob’ sometime.

  71. 404
    Jonty's Mate says:

    Why would i turn against my beliefs and Labour Darcy?? Why do you need to fight Darcy??? Are you a racist little Englander Darcy???

    • 429
      Darcy says:

      Oh dear! Reaction mode. I despise anyone telling me how to live my life, and in particular how to do Business. So for your sake and mine keep the faith sweetie, because it is people like myself that actually create work. Ooops sorry you have been sold out to India and your Banks are screwed, and China owns Africa. So sorry its down to the small people to pick up our boot straps, dust our pettie coats and make this Island great again. My dearest Jonty I do not feel the need to fight anyone, what goes around comes around, enjoy.

      • 438
        Jonty's Mate says:

        Good job Labour is in government then Darcy otherwise it would of been sold as scrap by now to China and who ever else wants a piece for a quick buck to the useless Tories.

        7 million jobs created by this Government alone. Take your empty claims and shove them up your bum Darcy.

        • 439
          Jonty's Mate says:

          *By the useless Tories

        • 620
          Alibarbs says:

          7 million completely unneccessary jobs to be given to long term unemployable labour voters in either their heartlands or swing voters in marginal constituencies.

          Are you really as thick as you appear to be, or are you being deliberately obtuse?

        • 662
          Freud says:

          I see the usual plotline developing. You have absolutely no way of knowing what the Tories may or may not have done in the last 12 years.Where is your evidence? You have none.
          I could equally claim that the Tories would have created 30 million jobs. Prove me wrong.

          Think next time before making comments about ‘empty claims’ It seems you are the one who is making them.

    • 611
      Mr Slater's Parrot says:

      SQUAWWWK-K! RACISTRACISTRACIST! CRIPPLECRIPPLECRIPPLE! (flutter) A-AWWWK!! GIZZAJOB!

  72. 408
    Jonty's Mate says:

    Smelly Nelly, the blind should not pretend to have sight.

  73. 424

    I’ve found the Tories in here tend to throw lies in the hope something will stick, and pepper their comment with derogatory references. This is just more of the same hyper-competitive road to nowhere behaviour.

    When conversation ends up being more about behaviour than comment it’s clear the bottom has fallen out of the market. It’s the same deal with the global recession, as folks are talking more about regulation than getting off their asses and building the future.

    Jeez, let it go.

    • 431
      Darcy says:

      Do shut up, it is beyond tedium,

    • 490
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      FORGIVE THEM CHARLES, THEY KNOW NOT WHAT YOU SAY. But you see, these people are all press fodder. The believe that lie that “perception is reality” and the press MAKE (on that basis) go ahead and busily make their reality for them…thats the way they like it Charles….coz they don’t need to think or “do” for themselves that way. It used to puzzle me why people still voted conservative in a modern era, but that is what it is — laziness.

      • 1046
        barefootcontessa says:

        SS, what the hell are you in league with that dreary, turgid, bampot Charles for?

    • 1263
      Shithead says:

      Fuck off, Charles, you spare tit. Your sad, humourless, economically clueless, inhumane failure of a leader wrote the fucking BOOK on lying. Look at his press conference when he denied he wanted to change chancellors. That’s one of a thousand examples. Are you too dim to remember that or are you simply as big a liar? It’s YOUR country that’s being trashed, you fuckwit. I’ve toads living in the goo at the bottom of my pond that are more intelligent and open-minded than you. Fuck off and take your medicine.

  74. 436
    Brown's Terrochotta No.9 says:

    Dear All,

    Get your arses off to Nick Robinson’s blog for a laugh – Draper is back in the guise of “Mike Naylor” see the latest Coulson entry – coming to a Guido blog near you.

    He insists McBride’s e-mails were hacked…plus anyone who argues against him is part of the Tory youth movement and is obviously biased…crazy mother.

    Charles Fudgepacker who makes a guest appearance on this site is a hoot but Mike is just plain nuts.

    Not to be missed.

    • 454
      PT Barnum says:

      I like this ‘Mike Naylor’ line on Coulson:

      Probably the most important Newspaper enquiry in the last 20 years.

      • 485
        Steve Expat says:

        I’d give that one to the DT within recent memory – certainly media story of the last 10 years with the expenses.

        There is a difference between what is in the Public Interest, and what the public might find interesting….

      • 514
        Anonymous says:

        Ia Anton a daddy yet?

    • 458
      PT Barnum says:

      Ooo, and this one:

      Can anyone who wants be taken seriously, in political debate, stop using the term “New Liebores”, and things akin to that.

      It’s the political equivilant of a Man Utd fan and Liverpool fan having a discussion on who is actually the better team.

      I take that as a signal that such terms get under his skin. How nice.

    • 459
      PT Barnum says:

      Hmmmm, they don’t like Mr Naylor on Nicky’s blog:

      Saying that the political blog that broke the McBride story was tory is a bit like trying to defend a Belsen guard by saying the man who arrested him was a commie.

      • 539
        Brown's Terrochotta No.9 says:

        Thanks DT. I was going to lift a few choice quotes from “Mike Naylor” but there are too many pickings.

        Some of the terms he uses and his insistance that McBride’s e-mails were hacked it has got to be either McBride, Draper, or Balls (although admittedly Draper claimed his e-mails were hacked).

        It is just great when some of the comments challenge him he gets upset way too easy and states that they are biased or a Tory toff or both.

        If I were Penfold (Robinson) I would limit Naylor’s comments (he requires medication); I would also write about something a bit more politically relevant.

        • 543
          PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

          Robinson’s blog is not normally somewhere I spend any time, but that comment thread was an astonishing exercise in free speech v agree with me or you are an Etonian who eats babies.

          “Naylor” was absolutely insistent that McBride’s emails had been hacked (by our host or someone in cahoots with our host). Would never occur to him that someone on the inside seeing those emails might find them so repulsive they would feel forced to act. No, that could never happen. Must be a Tory plot. It’s obvious, innit?

      • 560
        Brown's Terrochotta No.9 says:

        Sorry PT (not DT) it was before coffee time this morning. I don’t post on Robinson’s blog anymore – as he doesn’t seem to read the comments…but out of interest I wondered over there yesterday.

        Coulson was probably worth a mention yesterday but Robinson seems to focussed on the Torys and never seems to criticize Labour (Liebore – just for Mike) and especially not Mandelson….

        • 578
          PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

          DT? PT? What’s a consonant between the equally enraged?

          And what of that sarcastic little piece on DC and his soapbox where he’s repeatedly called “Dave” in quotation marks? Don’t they realise that propaganda works best when it is subtle, almost invisible?

    • 680
      Pontius The Pilot says:

      Hacked, my arse.

      Yeah, you can really hack the Government Secure Intranet. Do me a fucking favour.

      What else does he ramble on about…. password security on email servers.

      So… he’s trying to suggest that despite having all the machinery of the Government Secure Intranet at his disposal in the No10 bunker that for material like this that they would resort to using webmail? Which the fuckers would be unable to reach because it is filtered out to ensure compliance with security regulations?

      Full of shit, as per bloody usual.

      • 741
        Master Baiter says:

        Pompous The Pillock,
        It was the emails at Derek Draper’s that were hacked.
        Feel silly by any chance?
        The hacking has been identified and evidence is being collated.
        No doubt when the day comes those associated with it again will suffer from Reaganesque amnesia as witnessed yesterday in Andy Coulson’s snivveling performance before the culture committee.

        • 762
          Basket Case says:

          So McBride was even more stupid than we ever thought then if he sent them via open webmail…

          ..eh?..Baiter?

          Feeling silly by any chance?

        • 767
          Master Baiter says:

          McBride is definitely at least that stupid.
          However whether or not he used open webmail is irrelevant.
          Evidently he used his official professional email account to send reputedly salacious gossip. That is the stupidity pure and simple.
          It is truly an astounding depth of stupidity, matched and often surpassed only by the many lightweight rightwing dimwits on this site.

        • 781
          Basket Case says:

          Why do you always resort to insults,Baiter?

          Don’t you have anything worthwhile to say?

          ..and as to your theory that Drapers e-mail system was hacked..if it had,don’t you think that a lot more of his bile would have appeared by now?

          Perhaps you should think things through before committing to print

        • 786
          Master Baiter says:

          There’s a clue in the handle.
          The point is the stupidity of using an offical email account to send salacious gossip.
          It’s obvious it was hacked, who cares how?
          Point proven.

        • 836
          Basket Case says:

          I asked why you resort to insults…nothing to do with your ‘handle’ at all….although that does shed some light on your thinking.

          Kindly explain how ‘it’s obvious it was hacked’ and ‘point is proven’?

          Is this your worthwhile contribution..along the lines of..’I think it’s obvious,therefore it’s true’?

          Wonderful…I bow to your superior intellect…..not!

        • 856
          Pontius The Pilot says:

          Collective amnesia….Yeah, like Gordons “I take full responsibility, which is why I sacked the person responsible”, (except he’s alleged to have resigned instead!) eh, MB?… like “I never said “An end to boom and bust”" or “A weak pound is the sign of a weak economy, which is the sign of a weak government”?

          So you’re saying it was Draper’s IT security that was lax then, mm?

          Kinda careless dont you think, considering the material under discussion?

          Like a fireman going into a blazing building without a nomex suit thinking “nah, I’ll be alright… those flames wouldnt dare burn me…”

          So, lets weigh this up…. for Draper and McBride both to walk, not only will there be visibility on the GSI Exchange box but also on the webmail server Draper used, proof of transmission, tied into both men that they couldnt escape from… what the filth would call bang to rights, etc…

          I’m intrigued as to how you can prove that webmail was hacked. Either the correct username/password combination was entered or it was not… If it was, someone had to know both parts of it. Are you suggesting darker forces at work than the NOW?

          If you’re suggesting that the alleged hacking was done at the provider’s facilities, I’d be extremely careful before rushing to accuse… they tend to be a bit tetchy about such accusations.

          Me feeling silly? Hell no mate, one more week and I’m emigrating. I’m actually quite excited and more than a little relieved to be able to deny Brown & Darling any more of my hard earned to plug holes in their political lifeboats.

          Cant wait actually. I’ll think of you when I’m sipping champagne on the outbound Eurostar next Sunday morning.

        • 864
          Master Baiter says:

          It is of no great moment whether it was hacked or not.
          To those with confidence in the process of logical deduction it was hacked.
          For those too dim to deduce perhaps it wasn’t hacked, but who cares?
          Andy Coulson cannot remember if he was involved in or knew of hacking operations when editor of the News of the World. Irrespective of his memory or lack of one there were hacking operations in the period he was editor of the News of the World. This is proven by the jail sentence served in relation to a criminal court case and a large payment in settlement of a civil court case. Now Andy Coulson is the director of communications for the Conservitude Party and information has been hacked or stolen on several occasions that undermines the Conservitude’s political opponents. Some things are coincidental other things are not.
          The point proven is that Damian McBride’s stupidity was spectacular in using an official email account to exchange salacious gossip. Further the mental capacity of the dimwitted rightwing commenters on this site is difficult to underestimate.

        • 1002
          Basket Case says:

          Your long winded and wholly irrevelant answer confirms your own shallowness.

          When backed into a corner about the veracity of your own argument,you claim that the hacking is of no importance.

          So why have such a rant in the first place?

          Unfortunately for you,you are the kind of person that cannot deal with facts..only tittle tattle..and conspiracy theory.

          For example,please explain how Coulsons guilt is proven by a payment made a long time after his resignation..you see..no factual base!

          If your rant about right wingers was aimed at me..what right do you have to judge my political leanings?

          Is it simply because I choose to take you to task..therefore I must be a Tory??

          Grow up Baiter..and keep your views to yourself until you are capable of playing with the big boys.

        • 1227
          Pontius The Pilot says:

          847#

          “For those too dim to deduce perhaps it wasn’t hacked, but who cares?”

          OR,

          For the benefit of the 26% remaining New Labia voters – benefit dependant illegal immegrants of Tower Hamlets and the Northern sink estates and the non-job civil service parasites:

          Translation: “Never let the facts get in the way of a good story”

          Isnt that called “preaching to the converted”?

        • 1240
          Master Baiter says:

          Don’t be so precious, big boy.
          The point that the dimwits happen to be right wing means that it doesn’t apply to those who are not.

        • 1342
          Pontius The Pilot says:

          1206#

          Ah, so the right wing have an exlusive on dimwits!!!!

          Did anyone tell that nice Mr Woodward that before he crossed the floor?

        • 1345
          Master Baiter says:

          Fascinating twaddle as ever.

        • 1420
          Cjamesk says:

          “It is of no great moment whether it was hacked or not”

          MB you suggested it was hacked, so what is it;

          Hacked or not hacked?

          Or you know absolutely nothing in how the E-mails were obtained of which I think that`s the case.

          All hot air as per-usual.

  75. 440
    Keep your friends close says:

    As a long time reader, and sometime poster, it is obvious that this blog is under determined attack. The mass utterances of some, and the impersonation of others, is an effective weapon, that is reducing the input to a chaotic jumble of doubt and abuse. Who would hold such a grudge?

    • 451
      Dr Feelgood says:

      I agree – and for that reason I, and no doubt others, will persist in our support. This ‘jamming’ is a fine example of the behaviour of a certain clique in Labour. I reckon Ed Balls and his creatures are behind it.

      Unfortunately, I think user authentication might be required to restore order.

  76. 449
    Darcy says:

    That was for Mr. Muppet, anyhoo, must get on, I do think that Guido is wonderful, and I do so enjoy chomping his Blog now and again. See you when we have a decent Government, until then, the Dutch West Indies looks, well, a tad enlightening. Either that or St. Helena! Ta ta. D

  77. 450
    Jonty's Mate says:

    NELLIE THE ELEPHANT SHOW US YOUR TRUNK

  78. 460
    Jonty here! says:

    Hi. Has that Hoon who pretends to be my mate caused any problems here tonight?

    I am really sorry. He isn’t a mate of mine, not even an acquaintance, but his family used to live next door. Poor little bugger would be kept locked for hours on end in a large dog kennel and dog run in the back garden.

    Well, what could we do? In the end we complained to the RSPCA on the grounds of animal cruelty. His flatulence was so bad he made the dog, an elderly Alsation, throw up on many occasions. Then he would eat it. No, not the dog, HIM! He who claims to be my mate!

    Do you really think that I, Jonty, would associate with a flatulating eater of dog vomit? I’d rather caddy for Gordon Brown!

  79. 463

    Mandy has a close encounter of the UKIP kind:

  80. 467
    nell says:

    The truth is you only attack people by name if you feel they are damaging the already dying labour image .

    Damian , Derek.n EdB charlie , TomW…….what wonderful human beings you are ……we salute you for the way you attempt to smear, discredit, stab in the back, anyone that disagrees with the collapsing labour brand’

    Gordon (and more importantly, mandy) will so approve of you.

  81. 470
    nell says:

    Jonty’s mate = damian or tomW or philh*pe or draper or edb or charkliew :-or all of those poor sad inadequate people rolled into one, drown youselves in the nearest puddle.

    A prayer for our brave lads in Afghanistan worth a thousand / ten thousand and then some , of those mentioned in the sentence above, God keep you safe.

    Good night God Bless.

  82. 472

    [...] Question of Priorities Ring Ring Ring BBC Hi I’m calling from the BBC GF I’m on the beach.. BBC It is about Damian Mc.. GF in [...] [...]

  83. 474
    caesars wife says:

    I cant wait darling is going to make a statement tommorow, i dont know what went off when he met some of norwichs business leaders yesterday , or why security asked a group of university of east anglia to turn off there soil analysis detector , when they found out it could detect bullshit .

    AD : well you see theres this hole , and like any hole we have to fill it , so today i can annouce our new hole policy , as this hole is unprecidented and started in america we are going to call “negative adverseecnomic future fabric ” or NAFF . I can say that my team have been working very hard continually trying to ensure that all those dealing with the NAFF are on message . The trouble with NAFF is we dont really know what it is , at first we thought it was bundled mortage debts , but we now have to admit that there was bundled high risk business debts (some of which we helped arrange), which are the ones that we dont want to divulge or talk about that are hidden in the nationalised banks which we have guarenteed to be payed for by the taxpayer .
    We are hopin that the NAFF will start to shrink when hell freezes over , and everything else is just tickety boo .

    planet killer news :CW thinks this goverment has done a great deal to destroy the planet in its attempts at marxist new world order , but one piece sums them up quite well .
    DFID (UKAID) has annouced it is to give aid to Africa in the form of £140 mn for genetically modified seeds for crops , those unfamiliar with reasons why GM has been so attacked in the UK and got little further than few trials , should ask themselves the question , why give a developing nation somthing that we are not keen on in this country ??

    Monsanto is perhaps the best known but there are others , and they crudely genesplice a certain gene and replace it with another that is supposedly beneficial (and patent it), for example splice in drought tolerance to get crop that can cope better in arid conditions (all looks cuddly so far doesnt it), but they also make the plants sterile so you have to buy from them next year , they also produce plants that are not only resistant to certain diseases , but they do like producing plants that are tolerant to heavy doses of strong pesticide or herbicides . This works by chemically killing off any competetion in the field and so improving crop yield . (still seems ok ?)

    some of the chimcals they use are banned in the UK partly due to residual time in soil or adverse affects to collateral wildlife , as they have found in india they do a hard sell to the peasant farmers telling them they will make money and offer credit terms . in india they found they harmed the ecosytem so much that the useual farming practice of intergrowing other crops was impossible , and often upset the balance of other pests creating problems elsewhere . the farmers did not get rich , many became bankrupt and chemical legacy was left in Ecosystem .

    And we are helping Africans to be owned by the GM seed corps ?? Surely the best aid would be for seeds that they could harvest for themselves and use to crow the next years crops , surely we should help them to get good soils and not agro chemical warfare methods , surely we should be teaching them rotation and intersowing techniques to make safer foods ??

    YEP looks like another scam to me £140mn for our dairy farmers would be appreaciated right now , wonder how much Gm seed comapany is getting?? looks expensive aid to me given how much an ordinary bag of seed crop , a tarctor and attachments costs .

    Nu labour =not happy until we have let corporations own the poor

  84. 493
    caesars wife says:

    £5000 a second in debt is being racked up , well done new labour !

    • 694
      Steve Expat says:

      That was the June figure – the May figure was £7,467 a second!

      The total debt is now 800bn, which, depending on whose population statistics you believe, is 12 or 13 grand each (including the pensioners and children)

  85. 501
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    Jonty’s Mate – I take my hat off to you…..I’ve tried (Oh God, I’ve tried) but I just cannot educate these fools on my own. PLEASE go and get some reinforecements for the cause coz I fear the ignorance level here is so high it might take more than just you and I. Andy Amnesia Coulson is really good an so is Mr BcBride esq but what we REALLY need is somebody that can really fookng dominate them – they like that. Don’t you ya tory fascist bastards?

    • 599
      Troll Basher says:

      We built a fuckin wall to keep yous filthy ba­stads out. Needs rebuildin I think.

      • 640
        5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

        build yourself a wall of self reliance where you dont just spout everything the media tells you – THAT is your best defence against me and ANYBODY ELSE for that matter,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,love and peace.

    • 1022
      Augeas says:

      Mindless illiterate fuckwit. How the hell do you think you could ever educate anyone on any subject? You have as much grip on reality as your deluded boss.

      • 1151
        |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

        ehr, to whom are you addressing your remarks? As a proud fuckwit, I have naturally responded – but I have no boss – so wtf are you slevering about?

  86. 502
    A doctor muses says:

    Fuck me, how many Muslims are gonna go to Mecca for the pilgrimage, or whatever the fuck it is, pick up un-clean swine flu and infect the bloody UK when they get back?

    I think we should be told. Bastards!

  87. 505
    Lizzie says:

    When you got the call Guido it must have gone something like………BBC Knock, knock………..GF who’s there? BBC Damian Mc…….. GF Damian Mc who?
    Watched some of the Coulsen hearing yesterday on Sky, what a waste of time, one of the Labour MPs sounded almost apologetic asking Coulsen the questions. It was just a witch hunt to make Cameron squirm, and it failed miserably. Almost like saying why did Brown not know what McBride was up to under his own roof………..you can see where I am going with this!

  88. 507
    Anonymous says:

    The “Noble Lord’s” remarks are very brave and it will be interesting to see if he himself has the courage to withstand “incoming” or how quickly he “run’s up the white flag” and “clarifies” his remarks in face of hostile fire from the Daily Mail and it’s readership. After all it takes REAL courage to criticise from the comfort of the House of Lords regarding men who are doing their duty in highlighting the woeful lack of essential equipment to protect other people’s sons/daughter/husbands/wives who are paying with their blood for HIS government’s mistakes and for the Prime Minister’s cheese-paring of the budgets when he was Chancelllor!!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1201267/Outrage-toady-Labour-peer-accuses-forces-helping-Taliban.html

    • 513
      Agent 99 says:

      I’ll give it no more than midday before a statement is released that indicates

      ‘his comments were misconstrued and taken out of context’

      Labour Hoons!

      • 722
        Steve Expat says:

        You’re right –
        Lord Malloch-Brown, who is leaving Government later this week, later issued a statement insisting that the Helmand force was properly equipped.

        “On the issue of helicopters in Afghanistan, I was making the point – as the Prime Minister and commanders on the ground have also done – that while there are without doubt sufficient resources in place for current operations, we should always do what we can to make more available on the front line,” he said.

        Mr Brown quoted Lord Malloch Brown’s “clarification” of his remarks and stressed that more Merlin helicopters were being brought in by the end of the year and further Chinooks next year.

        Quoting the words of commanders on the ground, Mr Brown added: “It is completely wrong to say that recent loss of lives has been caused by the absence of helicopters.”
        http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6723050.ece

    • 518
      John Rambo says:

      Afghans 1989 = Freedom Fighters

      Afghans 2009 = Terrorists

    • 519
      PT Barnum says:

      Those photos of Foulkes and Dannett set side by side really show who is the upstanding valuable member of our country…and who is the offspring of a sow and a debauchee.

  89. 508
    Elmarco says:

    Charles Hardwidge should go stick his head up a dead rats arse – click on his name and Labour List pops up – He is a Labour troll and I want to know if we, the tax payers, are paying him on any level – It would be so typical of Labour if they were using taxpayer’s money to fund creeps like him to haunt sites such as this.

    • 529
      TOO FAR says:

      Dont’ worry 499. I just shows what a bunch of fuckwits they are. most (not all) of their posts are typical labour bullshit. Very few, other than other some socialist fuckwits take any of their posts seriously.

      I also add many labour supporters would cringe at their idiotic rants.

      • 770
        barefootcontessa says:

        He’s not doing newlabour any favours, that’s for sure! CH typifies everything that’s despicable about the ghastly party – newlabour.

        • 1021
          Shithead says:

          Of course CH is a Nuliabore troll, a full-time troll – either that or he’s on the dole like a growing minority of Bliar’s/Brown’s Britain. I just came across a brilliant quote from the Greatest Englishman Of All Time:

          “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

          He was talking, of course, about true socialists, and he didn’t go far enough, but those two sentences sum up the utter hypocrisy of the “we’ll refuse a peerage and then line our pockets and avoid IHT like champions” Benn family and the teeth-grinding lies of those sickening poseurs Cherie and Tone; not to mention the self-serving, false rectitude of Straw and the appalling Mandelscum, who’s less a socialist than Lady T.

          Winston might have added a line about the sheer unhappiness of most of these numbskulls. Have you ever seen anyone look as miserable as Jack Straw or Harriet Harmanhater, or as pathologically bewildered as the spineless puppet chancellor? Darling looks like he’s frightened to wipe his own arse without permission from the one-eyed Scottish idiot.

    • 553
      stilyagi_air_corps says:

      Now you know what some of these ‘Earn xxx an hour with your laptop’ job adverts entail! Trolling is big business in America, although they use a more official, respectable name for it. Movie about to flop? Hire some Trolls to pack the sites and magazines that matter with gushing, uncritical reviews – even some Middle Eastern states have been known to shine up their image this way, all perfectly legally.

      Even if t’Layber Parteh (or private individuals therein!) use these firms as a cut-out, rather than keeping their own Trolls in the basement, any direct evidence linking them to this kind of perception management would be, frankly, fucking hysterical!

    • 554

      Lordy Lordy, you’re being very dim.

      And because you’re so dim I shall explain- you can do what you like with the website – so you don’t know what sort of troll he really is.

    • 1056

      Historically, the British are tub thumping and insular. They have no concept of leadership and cooperation which is why Britain has no world class products and folks get smashed at the weekend.

      The underlying trends are towards the practical and social, and quality and relevance, but the Tory obsession with authority and greed reflects how alien this is to their real agenda.

      Perhaps you’d like to think about that.

      • 1230
        Pontius The Pilot says:

        “Historically tub thumping and insular…They have no concept of leadership and cooperation which is why Britain has no world class products and folks get smashed at the weekend.”

        Riiiiight. So… historically… things like the jet engine, the television, the telephone, the pneumatic tyre, the industrial revolution, Rolls-Royce, companies like Marshall, Solid State Logic, LINN, none of these companies either have been or are not still world class?

        “Folks get smashed at the weekend”… yeah, where does that happen Charlie?

        In the hearts of the inner cities where the dumbed down thick as shit, ill disciplined, non-educated, benefit dependant, hopeless scum vote for New Labia.

        Funny how it was YOUR government that relaxed the licensing laws with no forward vision thinking that suddenly the likes of inner city Coventry or Liverpool or Manchester were suddenly going to be awash with Parisian style pavement cafes, where Islington champagne socialist types could sit sipping their prosecco congratulating themselves on another peice of redistributive social engineering until 11.00pm?

      • 1368
        tat says:

        and perhaps you would like to think about having your skull caved in by the great thick as thieves charles.
        you are a traitor to your country and a war criminal.
        we know how to deal with collaborators like you.
        rope
        neck
        snap.
        expect no mercy charles: you don’t deserve any.
        keep pumping out the bilge charles, you are helping to pour new labour votes down the drain.
        well done.
        good cripple.

  90. 510

    One reason why you should always allow free speech, no matter how unpalatable. Truth will always out eventually, it always does.

    492
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:
    July 22, 2009 at 3:54 am

    Jonty’s Mate – I take my hat off to you…..I’ve tried (Oh God, I’ve tried) but I just cannot educate these fools on my own. PLEASE go and get some reinforecements for the cause coz I fear the ignorance level here is so high it might take more than just you and I. Andy Amnesia Coulson is really good an so is Mr BcBride esq but what we REALLY need is somebody that can really fookng dominate them – they like that. Don’t you ya tory fascist bastards?

    • 522
      PT Barnum says:

      Complete agreement here.

      Their tactics stink of fear and rage. This coordinated campaign to make the blog unusable and unpleasant puts nail after nail into the NewLabour coffin. Let them speak. They are the spawn of McBride and we need to know about them.

    • 531
      Art. 38 says:

      I take encouragement from it – if it’s the best they can do it’s pathetic. The animal has been cornered in its lair and these are its death throes.

      Whehter you are Conservative, UKIP, Green or Liberal, “Anyone But Labour” dominate the online media – and most left-leaning sites like LabourList are deserted apart from ABL-minded people setting them to rights. Even the Guardian CIF is pretty-much right leaning these days.

      The left and socialism are dead. Roll on the election.

    • 532
      Engineer says:

      It is – sadly – the price of free speech.

      Guido operates a light touch on the moderation (though somewhat unfathomable and frustrating at times!) so allowing decent people with something to say a chance to say it, and to be read by the mainstream political parties. It also allows us to hear the opinions and experiences of others, and to learn from them (I’ve certainly learned much from this blog). We can have a bit of a chuckle as well – which does all of us good – I particularly like the funny bits.

      It means also that those who would close down debate and free speech for their own political gain, or other perverted purposes, have fairly free access, despite Guido’s best efforts to expel the worst. They will never win, because the balance of rational thought is against them, but they give us a chance to exercise wit and wisdom, and they improve Guido’s stats, thus shooting themselves in the foot.

      A pain they are – but they will never be a fatal one.

      • 537
        Master Baiter says:

        The Oaf GuidOrcs is welcome to the pin money to be made from this site. If the stats push up income, fine but they don’t actually. The ads run here only pay if there is a click through that results in a purchase.
        So get buying if you want to help the site out.

        • 548
          Engineer says:

          I didn’t mention money. Guido’s business affairs are his concern, not mine.

        • 565
          Master Baiter says:

          So what is the point of the stats, pushed up or down?

        • 639
          Engineer says:

          I was referring to Guido’s viewing and posting figures. I gather they are several orders of magnitude greater than the left-leaning and Labour-supporting blogs. No doubt the trolls boost those figures somewhat, but they do not obscure the messages posted by genuine people. It also suggests (does not prove, but suggests) that public opinion currently leans more to Guido’s political view of Britain than that of the current government.

        • 735
          Steve Expat says:

          Surely the best thing we can do is just to ignore the trolls completely. MB, you can be a pain in the arse at times but at least you debate, ditto Charlie-boy the Liebour wonk. You have the right to free speech and do add to the debate on occasion, even if most others disagree with you.

          The real problem here is the (only 2 or 3) people who just throw childish insults around and add nothing whatsoever to the discussion in hand – they are the attention-seekers who will go away if ignored

        • 809
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Listen, engine ears, GF’s so called “stats porn” is pure fantasy…although, with that said, his stats are still VERY impressive. But they are worthless because he could not sell this website unless he himself continued to contribute to it – and so long as he keeps it entirely in self-ownership his equity is entitely theoretical. I suspect he sold out to the media firm whose name appears at the bottom of these pages and he probably receives a retainer (good luck to him so far as that goes). But PLEASE don’t believe the figures he puts out – and DO remember, websites are part of the ENTERTAINMENT industry – not part of SERIOUS politics.

        • 862
          Engine Ears says:

          What a load of bullocks.

          The “stats porn” is pure fantasy, but it’s still very impressive. Does that make it fantasy or reality?

          This blog is Guido’s property – what he chooses to do with it is his business. (It also means that he makes the rules.)

          Websites are part of the ‘entertainment’ industry, and not part of ’serious politics’ – that would explain why the major parties read this blog, then. It also means that Labourlist and it’s ilk are just entertainment.

        • 901
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          I dunno if you are the genuien engien ears or a cheap fake. anyway, you wrote:

          > The “stats porn” is pure fantasy, but it’s still very impressive. Does that
          > make it fantasy or reality?
          HE HAS NO NEED TO GUILD THE LILLY – is that fooking plain enough for you? *duh*

          > This blog is Guido’s property – what he chooses to do with it is his
          > business. (It also means that he makes the rules.)
          Sorry, you have a brick shithouse mentality – catch up with the modern era, I certainly don’t have the tiem necessary to educate lazy shites like you that won’t do it for themselves.

          > Websites are part of the ‘entertainment’ industry, and not part of ’serious
          > politics’ – that would explain why the major parties read this blog, then. It
          > also means that Labourlist and it’s ilk are just entertainment.
          Politicians need entertainment too ya stoopid fuck – GF has no formal qualfications wo wot the fook else can he be but “enetertainment” ya shit faced fuckpig.

        • 925
          Engine Ears says:

          Been on the cheap lager, have you? All you can manage is personal insults, and pretty basic ones at that.

          If this is the best that Labour can put out as a Troll, they are scraping the barrel.

          If you’re independent, you need to sober up.

        • 949
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          Its perfectly okay Engine Ears, I can well undestand your wish to cover up the embarrassment you feel for being so fucking stupid – so please do attack me and my nation all you want if that is what makes you happy.

        • 991
          Engine Ears says:

          How, precisely, did I insult your nation?

        • 1008
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          By resorting to cheap sterotypes – I thought more of you.

          > Been on the cheap lager, have you?

          > scraping the barrel.

          > you need to sober up.

          If that is not what was intended, then fair enough we call it quits.

        • 1011
          Engine Ears says:

          I assumed from your reply that you are drunk. I fail to see how that insults anybody’s nation. The comment was aimed at you.

        • 1012
          Engine Ears says:

          I assumed from the tone of your comments that you were less than sober. I fail to see how that insults anybody’s nation – the comment was directed at you, not anybody’s nation.

        • 1015

          Folks may like to reflect on quality, essence, Tao, or the oneness of everything. Dualism, delusion, or ego just gets in the way of the experience. So, it’s better to have no opinion.

          There’s eye popping red faces straining on all sides of this one. Tub thumping over principles and going “Whoa, dude” at the crowds, they just get themselves in a funk. Why worry?

        • 1023
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          > I assumed from the tone of your comments that you were less than sober. I
          > fail to see how that insults anybody’s nation – the comment was directed
          > at you, not anybody’s nation.

          Well, I have never been drunk in my life my friend and I gave up the puffs about forty years ago – and I don’t do drugs but I do have a huge cock (so I am told).

          Try to undertsand that not everybody on this board is as decent as you are and some of these morons try to “press certain buttons”, let us say. Glad to learn you’re not one of them and (evidently, from your reply) these old sterotypes have now been binned, at long last.

        • 1351
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Charles, be patient and understading if this your poor student…

          > Folks may like to reflect on quality, essence, Tao, or the oneness of
          > everything. Dualism, delusion, or ego just gets in the way of the
          > experience. So, it’s better to have no opinion.
          >
          > There’s eye popping red faces straining on all sides of this one. Tub
          > thumping over principles and going “Whoa, dude” at the crowds, they just
          > get themselves in a funk. Why worry?

    • 538
      Art. 38 says:

      PS. I suspect it could be a paid ‘black op’ at behest of Balls, Whelan, Draper, McBride, Watson or a related reptile – despite their proven idiocy, I doubt there will be any e-mail trail this time.

      You can pay agencies to undertake all sorts of online influencing for political or business purposes – happens a lot with fake consumer reviews. Could be one of the companies providing legitimate communications advice to Labour is doing this on the side. Getting one of them to bomb this site would be very easy to set up.

    • 697
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      Well, if you MUST know – I was pleading for the return of the great Derek Draper.

      Have I ever pretended to be anything els but a labour voter?

      Do I suck up to GF like the majority of you do?

      If you think there is some kind of conspiracy going on then you are as thick as shite in the neck of a bottle.

  91. 511
    Charles E Fuckwitted says:

    I just watched postman pat being mauled by Chris Roberts on sky news,fuck me if thats all liebour have left to offer they might aswell call it a day now!

  92. 512
    Half Price Holiday???? says:

    Just a small thing at holiday time

    I heard a discussion on schools on the radio and one of the commentators stated that of course Schools in Scotland have broken up for a while now and go back in just a few weeks. Huh?

    Given that that my kids here in England are only just about to break for the summer holidays and the inevitable prices for any holiday of worth just about doubles if not triples in some cases on the 21st of July does this mean that not only do Scotland get free NHS, Free Education and many other things at the behest of the other parts of the UK but, they also would appear to be able to legally take half price summer holidays when the rest have to pay full whack at the busiest times.

    It seems like it according to this interview but I hope I am wrong.
    Labour runs both Parliaments so is it shoring up its vote again?

    • 547
      Grandma B says:

      8 or 10 year ago the Government appeared to decide to introduce a 4 term year to English schools. Working in a school office at the time, we actually received a timetable from the LEA for the year that it was due to start (2004?). Don’t know what happened, but we never heard a dickie-bird after that – lost in the long grass?

      Unfortunately, the main summer holiday still seemed to cover most of August.

    • 551
      Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

      God thats pathetic. Its always been like that!

      In the 1970s scottish children were first brought into Anglophobia by the fact that there was no “why don’t you” on tv for the first two or three weeks of holidays (or any other daytime kids programs).

      Some places in Northern england used to something like that until about 10 years ago too. (bolton and halifax i seem to think). Its a bit of a bugger if you have two kids with two different holiday schedules. I certainly know of a place where the local primary and secondary schools are actually in completely different council areas.

      • 703
        5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

        I would like to offer you the not inconsiderbale accolade of being the dumbest cluck I have ever came across since visiting this here website…..you are a |Goddang fooking MORON of the very first ansd highest order — I pity your offspring for being burdened with you…..do them a favour and fooking top yourself.

        • 733

          Odd. What I say is 90% fact, no doubts at all.

          Perhaps its my use of the term “anglophobia” and mentioning something that was actually a clear issue of irritation for children in scotland against the london based BBC (but the latter is actually factual).

          I still can’t see quite how it deserves such a violent rant. Didn’t hit a nerve or something did it?

        • 791
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Yes, well I’m very sensitive to my nationalism (I’m sure you’ll understand).

        • 843

          Well, I despise nationalism. Even the types that look fluffy from certain angles.

        • 868
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          Mr Cunliffe Arsely, I fully appreciate there is “nationalsm” and “nationalism” but the kind I am talking about is fundamentally democractic — the SNP are not, and never were, to be compared, for example, to the 1RA. This could potentially be a long debate but I think if we both recognise the basic fact that my aspirations are purely democratic in nature then all we have left is a difference of opinion. In other words, you don’t need to “hate” or “resent” Scotland’s DEMOCRATIC aspirations to national self identity – even although you may disagree with it…..remember, the social union continues and the United Kingdom continues, it is all very civilised!

        • 886
          Grandma B says:

          To the guy with the dodgy swimming trunks.

          Thank you. I might hold you to that offer. I just knew it was one big act with you.

        • 1337
          Good Advice says:

          5p€d0☻5h0rt5,

          Nationalism? Don’t give me that fucking crap – you’re a bitter moron who is an embarrassment to the millions of decent scots who have better things to do with their lives than spend them hating their neighbour nation.

          Why don’t you do the entire scottish nation a favour and top YOURSELF you pathetic waste of organs!

        • 1478

          I do not distinguish. Shall I repeat myself? It might look fluffy from your angle, but it easily turns to bullying and oppression.

          Did you bully any english kids when you were at school? Are you close to being 40? Where you actually aware of the “why don’t you” grudge?

          I do believe in democracy, that goes down to an appropriate local level, but just not when its tagged on to something that is irrational, and unpleasant to anyone outside your group.

          much as you’re on about democracy – democracy gets shite if its run on ignorance and prejudice. I have over the years met plenty of people who’ve suffered from the side effects of scottish nationalism on those people who are perceived as english. You’d be surprised

        • 1677
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          Mr Cunliffe Arsely, there is only so much I can say in response to your subjective reminsicances. I am old enough to be your father so I am not familiar with these “Children’s Hour” type of TV proggys you’re on about.

          > I do not distinguish. Shall I repeat myself? It might look fluffy from your
          > angle, but it easily turns to bullying and oppression.
          No, there is n place for such certainty: surely you mean “CAN”, or “COULD” or “MIGHT” – even a Cunliffe Arsely cannot read the future!

          > Did you bully any english kids when you were at school? Are you close to
          > being 40? Where you actually aware of the “why don’t you” grudge?
          I am closer to fooking sixty and no I never bullied anybody – School in Scotland wasn’t like that in my day – is that a norm for you?

          > I do believe in democracy, that goes down to an appropriate local level,
          > but just not when its tagged on to something that is irrational, and
          > unpleasant to anyone outside your group.
          So a Cunliffe-Arsely is to be the arbiter of what is “appropriate” Hehehe!!

          > much as you’re on about democracy – democracy gets shite if its run on
          > ignorance and prejudice.
          No comprendo
          > I have over the years met plenty of people
          > who’ve suffered from the side effects of scottish nationalism on those
          > people who are perceived as english. You’d be surprised
          “Perceived as English” – Me “surprised”? not really, I am not surpised I think you’re a fucking moron.

      • 760
        Grandma B says:

        To the guy in the dodgy swimming trunks.

        Mr C-A and I were having a perfectly polite discussion about school holidays. Although by nature, I am not a violent person, I shall once again have to threaten to hit you with my handbag in response your rudeness. However, if Mr C-A did unintentionally strike a raw nerve, please accept my sympathy.

    • 561
      fuck off Millitwat twins says:

      bollocks don’t have kids

    • 739
      Steve Expat says:

      Scottish kids do have the same length of holiday as English kids – they normally finish a couple of weeks earlier but go back a couple of weeks earlier too. No consipracy (yet)…

      • 951
        5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

        How very civil and even-handed of you Stephen, there is hope for you yet!

  93. 515
    Engineer says:

    Lord Malloch-Brown has now criticised the government of which he is part over the lack of helicopters in Helmand. He also feels that P*k*stan and Somalia represent greater terrorist threats to Britain than Afghan*stan.

    Government in disarray. Business as usual, then. How soon can we force an election?

    Morning, all.

    • 517
      Be gone Gordon! says:

      Breaking News ……..

      “Government Minister on the point of quitting actually wakes up, smells the coffee, and tells us all what we have all been aware of for months”

      Once again our Liebour government proves its collective head is still buried firmly up its own back passage, but lets not worry they’re still getting on with the job …… well sort of for the next eighty odd days…….

      I suppose we should at least be grateful that one more idiot in the form of Malloch-Brown has done us a favour and vanished……one less “talent” thank god !

    • 542
      nell says:

      I especially like M*lloch Brown’s comment that gordon “has churchillian faith in his belief that he can persuade the British public that He is the One” and then adding that gordon’s “future is incredibly bleak”
      Morning folks.

  94. 520
    Dalai Lama says:

    Charlie you don’t know flucking shite about flucking buddhism you utter utter flucking creampie!!

  95. 523
    GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

    Today i’ll take Sarah up the cragg !

    • 566
      Billy W says:

      You’ve got a press briefing at midday, so there’s still time to get down ‘n’ Greek with your little bald sockpuppet -in-chief.

      She wandered lonely as a beard
      That hovers low all pale and shrill
      Image shot, her husband jeered
      Thank God for Scotch and sleeping pills…..

  96. 526
    Anonymous says:

    How to make money and influence people.

  97. 533
    GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

    I see the Spanish are back in town Again, asking for Gibraltar back .What ’s the betting these bastards give it back? followed by the Elgin marbles, Then the falklands these jock twats want to rid us of anything remotely English !

    • 535
      Engineer says:

      And in 11 months or less, we’ll be rid of them…..

      • 549
        Rip Van Winkle says:

        Won’t get the chance, Engineer. No election will be called.

        • 557
          freddie flintoff says:

          true lad but will this happen again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoPj0FGGqlU

        • 743
          Steve Expat says:

          Good video freddie – same again in a few weeks hopefully ;-)

          Look up the Civil Contingencies Act 2004 for reasons to cancel the election – this flu thing looks like the best bet at the moment, unless someone ‘accidentally’ releases foot & mouth disease around the place next spring of course…

    • 552
      Miliband Bros. says:

      Viva Las Malvinas!

    • 562
      Her Majesty's Foreign Secretary says:

      a rock, marbles and some sheep. call it 30 pesos, my dear amigo.

      Fifth Columnist traitor?

      Did I tell you my ‘Polish’ grandfathers fought for the Soviet bolsheviks against Christian Poland?

  98. 534
    Master Baiter says:

    It wasn’t really the BBC.
    It was your burglar.

  99. 540
    PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

    O/T Another typical day in LabourLand

    The number of knife deaths in areas targeted by an anti-knife crime scheme has risen, the Home Office has said.

    The government’s Tackling Knives Action Programme started last July in 10 police areas in England and Wales.

    In its first nine months, 126 people died after being attacked with a knife or other sharp object – seven more than in the same period the previous year.

    • 564

      hmmmm …. 126 in period A, 133 in period B

      • 568
        Master Baiter says:

        Probably most of those knife killings were domestic violence. The kitchen knife holder block is notorious for presenting a weapon to an enraged husband/wife/boyfriend/girlfriend. Ban them and knife killings would drop immediately. If they were banned the Sherlocks on this site would identify an evil socialist conspiracy.
        What is the alternative to a Tackling Knives Action Programme would be what?
        Maybe the Conservitude stand by position on alomst anyhting:

        Do nothing

        • 580

          Party politics yet again.

          “your views” don’t count for anything if they aren’t “your views”.

        • 585
          PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

          Okay, I’ll grant you your ‘probably’ given that a total of 103 people aged 20 or over were killed by a knife or sharp object during the scheme, compared to 96 in the same period before the programme was introduced, which may or may not be explicable by domestic violence.

          However, the best one can say about the statistics is that the Programme has had a zero-sum effect on deaths. There was a 17% reduction in knife-related violence against under-20s. But the number of under-20s killed by a knife or sharp object did not change. There were 23 deaths during the time the scheme was running between July 2008 and March 2009, the same as during the equivalent period the previous year.

          And

        • 586
          Master Baiter says:

          What?

        • 590
          Master Baiter says:

          Ban the kitchen knife holder block thingy.

          Could be some common ground here.

        • 692
          Pontius The Pilot says:

          And what do you suggest the rest of us law abiding hardworking tax paying families prepare our bloody food with then, MB? Plastic cutlery?

          Come on mate. Think it through, will ya?

          The Alternative to TKAP? Lock ‘em up. 5 years for possession. Or send ‘em to the frontline in Sangin and see how fucking hard the little shits are then.

          Not enough prison places? Get them building their own fucking jails on chain gangs.

          “Tough On Crime, Tough On The Causes Of Crime” remember????

        • 1381
          Putin says:

          Well, if you know the answer,why bother asking? But of course you cannot know the answer. I claim knife killings under the Tories would have been zero. Prove me wrong.

          I think ‘probably’ should read ‘possibly, as you have no evidence to support this statement -it’s what you would like to be the truth but that does not make it true.

          I do not believe the programme limited it’s scope to domestic incidents,so by its own benchmarks it is not a success.

        • 1390
          Master Baiter says:

          Rightly or wrongly the wooden block holding a number of kitchen knives is said to be a factor in knife killings, most of which are domestic in nature. Police have long said the wooden block knife holder should be banned.
          The right wing press conflates knife killings with youth violence to create a false impression. The truth that husbands kill their wives often with a kitchen knife is not conducive to newspaper sales. It is not salacious, it’s disturbing, there is a difference.

        • 1769
          Basket Case says:

          “Police have long said the wooden block knife holder should be banned.”

          Jeez Baiter..you do come up with some garbage,don’t you.

          So,it’s the knife block holder..not the knives that are the cause,eh?

          Joking apart..what morsel of evidence do you have to quote the Police so concisely?

          You let yourself down with such blatent fiction that your credibility (what was left of it) is totally shot,buddy.

  100. 544
    The big D says:

    Classiest comment on Mr Robinson’s blog regarding Andy Coulson : “MPs investigating Journalists. An unedifying spectacle. Like watching a flies on a turd!”

  101. 556
    freddie flintoff says:

    lads this is how to do it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoPj0FGGqlU

  102. 559
    fuck off Millitwat twins says:

    All the divs I went to school with have shit jobs because [delete as appropriate]

    Can’t get out of bed
    Nick anything not bolted down
    Vandalise stuff
    Don’t flush after having a shit
    Don’t have a wash
    Vote Labour
    Drink & drive
    Assault people in pubs
    Drink before going to work
    Take drugs and use heavy machinery
    Take time off when they are not sick
    Have tattoos on their face
    Multiple ear rings in the bell end
    so fat they have a blue badge
    etc

  103. 567
    Anonymous says:

    I’m glad you shared this, otherwise some twat would scream “BBC bias” when you weren’t quoted.

  104. 571
    Master Baiter says:

    Lord Malloch Brown issues statement – ‘Without doubt sufficient resources’ in Afghanistan

    phew!

    • 588
      Billy W says:

      He could just as well say “Bibble” or “I like soup”, his mission is accomplished. All he needs to do now is kick George Ffoulkes firmly in the slats and he can have an ice cream.

      • 592
        Master Baiter says:

        Willy B Foulkes is taking on Dannatt, try not to get confused.

        • 613
          Trough Mixture says:

          Billy W’s not in the slightest confused Baiter. MB ( any relation?) and Ffoulkes are from the same house. A little application and there’d be loads of opportunities to leg the insanitary old soak up down some hard stairs. Ms Gracie would have a hard time not corpsing when reading out the notice of demise I’m sure.

        • 727
          Anonymous says:

          Off topic, but out of interest Jonty…..why have Labourlist not had you write a single article for them since April?

    • 621
      Art. 38 says:

      He spoke the truth, embarrassed Brown, so has to retract.

      Meanwhile, in Afghanistan the fighting and the dying continue.

      Labour and Gordon Brown have the blood of our soldiers on their hands.

      • 747
        Steve Expat says:

        Well done to that man, yet another with the guts to not stand by watching brave men and women come home in wooden boxes while he was a Minister.

        EVERYBODY knows that he meant what he said to the DT, and the retraction was from the No.10 Press Office. The damage was already done.

    • 693
      Pontius The Pilot says:

      Yeah, that was close wasnt it? The truth nearly got out!!!

      • 1059
        barefootcontessa says:

        Can you explain why MB retracted his previous statement in the newspaper? Surely the gorgon didn’t string him up, gag him, and threaten him with a whip? Did he?

  105. 574

    nice one from Coulson yesterday

    “It is possible in all walks of life, perhaps Mr watson will bear me out on this, to work very closely with someone who is doing something that they shouldn’t be doing or perhaps sending e-mails or what-not and not have full knowledge of what it is they are up to and being completly oblivious of what it is they are up to”

    What could he be referring to?

    • 577
      freddie flintoff says:

      saw that lad and this meant to be the tories mcbtide , what a let down lad o/t remeber this ?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoPj0FGGqlU

      • 579
        freddie flintoff says:

        • 648
          Ashes Emigrating says:

          Sorry freddie. Gordons just announced that he intends to catch up with the Ashes battle on his holidays.
          Oh well, it was good while it lasted.

        • 748
          Steve Expat says:

          Remember that Broon is Scottish first and foremost. Judging by the last two Tests he has been wishing Mr Ponting the best of luck so far.

          Long may it continue :-)

  106. 575
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    I live in a funny parallel world populated by fascist pure blood Scotsmen waving flags and calling their Southern neighbours ‘mongrels’. Reading Mein Kampf really opened my mind, I can tell ya!

    Call me a bitter, chip on the shoulder racist if you like (you may have a point).

    Anyway, back to worshipping my life size poster of Mr Salmond, what a fine physical specimen of the Master Race he is! Some may think me an embarrassment to my country, damn them to hell. Only real Scotsmen think as I do!

    Ah, the sweet smell of good old fascist nationalism. Make sure you throw in a few left wing ideas to mask the true nature of the beast though, see Adolf for details (plus a bit of up to date nonsense, such as Mr Salmond’s cuddle an immigrant policy!).

    • 704
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      Good points well made…..imitation is the highest form of lattery….thank you.

      • 935
        Grandma B says:

        I just love Mr Salmond’s eyebrows, they’re on a par with Mr Darlings. Mr Salmond’s such a cheekie chappie. I’d love to do the Highland Fling with him.

        • 960
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          You would make a good pair, he is a very leaned man, an economist and a mediaeval classics scholar.

        • 1064
          barefootcontessa says:

          He is indeed a very nice man, but his expenses left a lot to be desired.

        • 1145
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          He gives the major part of his salary to charity – but, of course, that is never reported :-(

        • 1258
          barefootcontessa says:

          Did he give the extra food and drink allocation he claimed expenses for to charity? SS, I am in favour of Scottish Independence, I like Mr. Salmond, but I don’t try to defend the indefensible, that would be a slippery slope. It would be good if Alex Salmond fessed up and said that that would be the last time he would take advantage of the situation! The Scottish parliament have quite rightly taken action against the monstrous expenses that their members were claiming. I rest my case.

        • 1282
          barefootcontessa says:

          Comments about Alex moderated. Another ‘no go’ area? In short mentioned that he didn’t give the extra food and drink on expenses to charity, did he SS?

      • 1267
        Grandma B says:

        Thanks Speedo (or whatever) for suggesting I’d get on well with Mr Salmond, but I’m not really “lean” although I do try to diet.

        You’re not going to like this, but I belong to the Margaret Thatcher school of excellence in home economics and as for the medieval classics, all I can say is that I used my spell check and hope I got medieval right, but that’s as far as it goes – secretarial skills only. Sorry to disappoint. It’s the Highland Fling for me.

  107. 581

    A Labour former minister today accused the head of the Armed Forces and the Army’s chief of making comments that ‘threaten to undermine’ the UK’s effort in Afghanistan and give ’succour to the enemy’.

    Lord Foulkes of Cumnock called at Lords question time for defence minister Baroness Taylor of Bolton to remind Army head General Sir Richard Dannatt and Chief of the Defence Staff Air Chief Marshal Sir Jock Stirrup of the ‘importance of loyalty’.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1201207/Dannatt-Stirrup-given-succour-enemy-warns-Labour-peer.html#ixzz0LyzQT6O2

    words fail me, he could ofcourse always go out there himself and fight with both hands tied behind his back couldnt he?

    • 606
      Art. 38 says:

      What a repulsive example of a human being Foulkes is.

      Just proves these Labourites have no understanding of the real meaning of patriotism, duty, loyalty, courage and decency.

      • 615
        Master Baiter says:

        No he isn’t and no it doesn’t.

        The Conservitude plans for the so called regulation of the financial services is getting a proper hammering in the Financial Times. It’s been going on all week.
        The Conservitudes are showing themselves up to be complete incompetents. All courtesy of mental pimple George Osborne.

        • 632

          all liebour people are completly dishonest and there for power . the country would be better off if they wernt there

        • 642
          P1 says:

          Back to George Foulkes – can anyone seriously believe he was made a Lord? He should quietly go away and reflect on what he said and how offensive and misdirected it was. If senior officers feel the need to make the sort of remarks they have, perhaps Foulkes should ask himself why rather than leap in with both size 9’s?

          Moving on, just imagine the sort of helpful intervention we might get in future from the talented Lord Michael Martin.

        • 677
          Sir William Waad says:

          Yes. If Dave seriously wants to be a successful PM he has to be ruthless, move Osborne sideways and promote Hammond (or Clarke?). It’s not enough that Osborne is his best mate and a fellow OE. He may be an appealing little puppy but he is not up to the job and he keeps making a mess on the nice blue carpet.

        • 696
          Pontius The Pilot says:

          Yeah, and Gordon has been a shining light hasnt he, MB??? You do make me laugh.

          But precisely what has that got to do with that old sycophantic soak Ffoulkes?

          Done fuck all useful in his life, fuck all use to anyone and he figures he’s best placed to gob off against the Chief Of The General Staff? A man who has medals for bravery, not just kissed the arse of a man who wrote a book about Courage that no fucker bought and is currently sitting in a bargain bin in a Charity shop on a northern sink estate somewhere near you???

        • 835
          Anonymous says:

          Oh for goodness sake stop using your pathetic “conservitude” rubbish Jonty.

          It’s neither funny nor witty, It doesn’t make you look big or clever, it simply shows you up for what you are. A jumped up snotty little student with no idea whatsoever about the real world who genuinely believes that the crap he comes up with to entertain his equally clueless uni mates actually has some kind of validity outside of the SU bar.

          Grow up and get a life you sad pathetic little boy – we all know you’ll to sweet FA in the real world and hope to follow in your heroes’ footsteps by never having to do a real job, but please spare us from your childish drivel, as it impresses no one.

      • 1066
        barefootcontessa says:

        Foulkes is pretty repulsive isn’t he? Outwardly, and worse, inwardly.

    • 679
      Sir William Waad says:

      Lord Foulkes of Chinook? As they say, there’s nowt so queer as Foulkes.

    • 816
      Rant against the Machine says:

      Lord Foulkesake has a knack of being sent out ( only to willingly I suspect) to speak utter shite on behalf of this rancid and moribund Government. Like Brown everything he touches turns to shite. Just ask any supporter of Heart of Midlothian.

    • 818
      Rant against the Machine says:

      He once got locked up for trying to fight a Policeman whilst pissed if my memory serves.

      • 1423
        Cjamesk says:

        Rant correct; ” At a party held by the Scotch Whisky Association, the defence spokesman at the time, also a magistrate, drank adequately from the fountain of the water of life. One witness described Foulkes’s subsequent behaviour as “like Zebedee on acid”. The MP trundled back to the Commons for a crunch vote.

        Unfortunately, the pavements of Westminster dipped and rose like the deck of a clipper on a choppy sea, tossing him into the arms of pedestrians. An attempt to dance with a 70-year-old lady resulted in them both hugging the asphalt. Foulkes biffed one persistently helpful constable on the chin.

        He was arrested and invited to spend the night enjoying Her Majesty’s hospitality. He pleaded guilty to assault and being drunk and disorderly, and was fined £1,050. He vowed not to drink whisky again.”

      • 1431
        GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

        He was also Tony Blairs Flat(FAT) Mate ! Cozy !

  108. 589
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    Suck Salmond’s stubby little tool!

  109. 597
    Pants on fire says:

    Celebrity Tub John Prescott is attacking Coulson for his use of the “didn’t know” defence

    It’s a good job Mrs Prescott “didn’t know” Celebrity Tub John Prescott was shagging his “secretary”

    “It’s very embarrassing for John Prescott publicly,” Mr Maguire said.

    “It will undermine his ‘honest John’ image to some extent and perhaps even make more difficult that broker role he’s playing between Gordon Brown and Tony Blair.

    • 601
      freddie flintoff says:

      just like gordon didnt know what mcbride was doing

    • 778
      streamfisher says:

      Thanks pants for clearing that up, we have all been wondering what he’s been doing for the last few years when not on the croquet pitch or at the Manchester Piefest,…. Been “doing a brokering role”, how many slices of ham can you get in one of those?,(spelling isn’t one of his strong points).

    • 1434
      GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

      Honest John Thomas Prescot ?

  110. 607
    Master Baiter says:

    How many UK officers have the mujahideen killed recently in Afghanistan?

    • 699
      Pontius The Pilot says:

      Too many.

    • 751
      Steve Expat says:

      Officers or troopers, it makes no difference. The answer is far more than would have been the case if they were properly equipped with armoured trucks and helicopters

      • 780
        Master Baiter says:

        It seems a high proportion casualties are officers.

        • 837
          Steve Expat says:

          I think the officers are more high profile, the troops don’t get Prince Charles at their funerals.

          The officers also probably spend more time travelling around than the troops do, and it seems to be roadside bombs causing most of the recent casualties more than the actual fighting.

          If there were more helos then maybe everyone could get around more safely than at present – failing that then some proper armoured land vehicles like the new ones that were on ‘Top Gear’ the other week, still being tested in Dorset rather than on the ground in Helmand.

    • 1436
      GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

      Mujahideen 0 Taliban many !

  111. 625
    streamfisher says:

    Helicopters ‘are no magic wand’; BBC online headline for article. So what we really need is Gandalf and Harry Potter out in Afghanistan, incisive stuff again.

  112. 626

    Watching and unfortunately listening to Gordon Fuckwit on Lie News now. I don’t know why as he makes me fucking mad. I need to hit something or him very hard. Bastard.

  113. 627
    Question master says:

    Watching Brown read out irrelevant quotes and stats on his “press conference”.
    Why can’t he pronounce “lieutenant” in the British way? Is it because he hasn’t got a clue what he’s doing?

    • 666
      Charles Flaccidwidger says:

      He can’t pronounce transparent either.

    • 685
      Anonymous says:

      No, it is becasue he is a closet american, having spent most summers in New England before it became necessary for him to stay in the UK and cry, I am getting on with the job (floods of 2007 – and people are still not in their homes!) this man is a sham.

  114. 628
    bandersnatch says:

    Guido, though you are right to cut yourself off for a beach relax, you are missing a treat. You are missing Gordo’s monthly press conference!

    The PM is newly blo-waved, but has the old intermittent jaw-drop and nervous mannerisms… How many times did he move his hand up to straighten the pages of his notes? His eyes look unusually slitty and somehow darker . He just said something about raising ‘personal attacks’… but rapidly changed it to ‘personal taxes’… We are also raising the number of helicopters… here we go again…Blah blah… ‘you should listen to’ etc… How long is this… or indeed he going to go on?

    • 651
      PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

      ‘Personal attacks’? Oh those sneaky Freudian slips…

    • 661

      so why watch it? he is totally discredited and his only problem is that he lies when his lip moves.

    • 667
      Observer says:

      Yes, the number of helicopters in Helmand will increase by up to 0% this year.

      • 811
        P1 says:

        Why should the number increase, when the PM says there are enough? That would be an illogical position, wouldn’t it?

        May be he means enough in the narrow, contrived, Brownian, way ie enough for him to able say, at the moment the words are spoken, that there are enough in some unspecified but fluid dimension, rather than enough in the way the listener might reasonably suppose (eg to enough undertake any practical tasks such as casualty evacuation (injured as well as dead), re-supply, surprise troop deployments etc)? Why do we bother listening to anything this ridiculous man says?

  115. 636
    bandersnatch says:

    Alky Ada (friend of Edna the Inebriate Woman?) is back… the PM suggests she has been around a bit recently… Alky Ada in Afghanistan, Alky Ada in Pakistan and even Alky Ada in Somalia.

  116. 641
    Anonymous says:

    Our glorious leader just said the England cricket team are doing brilliantly. Bugger….

  117. 643
    Ali C's "mate" says:

    Ah no Jonah just mentioned the brilliant E&W cricket team and the Ashes at his Press Answer conference …….please do not go to Egbaston Gordon…

  118. 649
    Basil D'olivera says:

    Brown’s just said that the England cricket team are “doing brilliantly” and he’s looking forward to watching the rest of the Ashes during his holiday. So take note, Freddy and Co., if it all goes tits-up from now on, we’ll know why, lad.

    • 656
      freddie flintoff says:

      shit lad anyone how get rid of the curse ?

      • 664
        Twat the Bastard says:

        If you see him in the crowd, we all expect you to do your duty, freddie. You have a chance to get closer to him, than us mere mortals.

      • 684
        PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

        The only known antidote to the Jonah virus is the Queen. If she sends her good wishes, it’ll be fine.

      • 698
        Adrian Prole says:

        Put your shotgun in your cricket bag.

      • 1213
        freddie flintoff says:

        cheers lads will send him to the ausses dressing room

    • 723
      Basket Case says:

      Since when has a Scotsman looked forward to watching The Ashes?

      Apart from hoping the English will get hammered.

      I’m not wanting to start a Scots/English war..just pointing out that Brown is a serial wanker who’ll say anything to prop his approval rating up.

    • 749
      Trough Mixture says:

      It’s already started – KP out for the series. Mouth all Burley just asked “So who’ll replace him – Harmison?” I kid you not.

      • 982
        Basil D'olivera says:

        There you have it. Brown should have kept his fat, ugly gob shut, lad.

  119. 655
    Somewhere a glory awaits unseen, tomorrow belongs to me says:

    What kind of government sends troops into battle and then a minister of that same government steps out and admits that we sent them without enough kit (helicopters).
    A) A competent one
    B) An incompetent one.
    C) A criminally incompetent one.
    Let’s hope no more lives are lost on the cheap

    • 746
      Art. 38 says:

      It’s not just helicopters – there have been reports of shortages of ammunition, food, body armour, appropriate vehicles, and a million other items…

      And don’t forget the evil bastards then attack the head of the Army for complaining about not enough resources – Foulkes accusing General Dannatt (MC), of giving ’succour to the enemy’, so I suggest:

      D) An evil, self-serving, mendacious, duplicitous, lying, weasel, criminally incompetent one.

      • 799
        Charles Flaccidwidger says:

        Ben Brown has just given the Tory’s David Lidington a right going over on News 24 about the helicopter business. Brown was asking how many extra helicopters were needed and Lidington would not answer as the Goverment would not release the relevant data to him. Brown really went for the jugular.

        Now, the question is, would Ben Brown have gone for Ainsworth in the same way? I think not.

      • 989
        Sick of the lot of them says:

        Satan Blair said he wanted life imprisonment for deserters, but given that they’re not even being fed and clothed properly whilst our rulers claim what the fuck they want from the public purse without recourse, what sane person can blame a Tommy who does a bunk?

  120. 657

    do we have enough helicopters in afghanistan?

    depends what time of day you are asked the question

  121. 659

    Some folks can take a sober statement of achievement or difficulty and blow it up in their own mind into something arrogant or demanding. The thing is, they’re so full of themselves that when someone else does something remarkable or is being screwed in the ass it gets twisted into something it isn’t.

    When I compare Gordon Browns fairly modest claims and attempts to calm the current difficulties, and how the Tories are so routinely shrill and patronising, it’s pretty clear to me what folks have issues they need dealing with. If they put less of their ego between themselves and the world they might have an easier time and be less nasty than they are.

    Get real. Wake up. Be happy.

    • 729
      Basket Case says:

      “Some folks can take a sober statement of achievement or difficulty and blow it up in their own mind into something arrogant or demanding.”

      At last Charlie..you’ve seen the light…

      ….I trust you will be heeding your own advice?

  122. 668
    Sir William Waad says:

    Whenever the Beeb ask me for an interview I just tell them I want £10,000 up front and it shuts them up.

  123. 669
    CARRY ON GOVERNING says:

    Original Post “Question of Priorities”

    http://www.farminguk.com/news/United-Kingdom-Tesco-in-keeping-with-the-times._11436.html

    Feeding people is suddenly on the agenda for the new government hiding in the wings.

    GM IS BACK ON THE MENU FOLKS!

    • 702
      No GM says:

      * Carry On Sergeant (1958)
      * Carry On Nurse (1959)
      * Carry On Teacher (1959)
      * Carry On Constable (1960)
      * Carry On Regardless (1961)
      * Carry On Cruising (1962)
      * Carry On Cabby (1963)
      * Carry On Jack (1963)
      * Carry On Spying (1964)
      * Carry On Cleo (1964)
      * Carry On Cowboy (1965)
      * Carry On Screaming (1966)
      * Carry On Don’t Lose your Head (1966)
      * Carry On Follow That Camel (1967)
      * Carry On Doctor (1968)
      * Carry On Up The Khyber (1968)
      * Carry On Camping (1969)
      * Carry On Again Doctor (1969)
      * Carry On Up The Jungle (1970)
      * Carry On Loving (1970)
      * Carry On Henry (1971)
      * Carry On at Your Convenience (1971)
      * Carry On Matron (1972)
      * Carry On Abroad (1972)
      * Carry On Girls (1973)
      * Carry On Dick (1974)
      * Carry On Behind (1975)
      * Carry On England (1976)
      * That’s Carry On! (1977) Compilation
      * Carry On Emmannuelle (1978)
      * Carry On Columbus (1992)
      Carry on Farming without Monsanto (2009 – - -)

    • 1379

      I’d like the CHOICE to have Genetically Improved food.

      Why are you preventing me?

      Is it because you are a luddite?

      • 1778
        tat says:

        I think you should eat as much genetically modified food as you want anticitizen.
        you are already mentally deranged and brain damaged so who cares if your genes are mutated by unsafe food products.
        go on, stuff your face with frankenstein burgers.
        oh, hold on, you are american, I have an idea: why don’t you americans gorge on GM food and the rest of the world can wait to see what affects it has ie stomach cancer and growing two heads and that kind of thing.
        you can be the guinea pigs, what a good idea!
        fill your boots with your genetically splice food anticitizen, mutate you genes with poisonous food and grow another head and then you could be more intelligent than the dimwitted moron you currnently are.
        you are such a cripple it is quite incredible.
        bugger off cripple.
        thankyou.

  124. 681
    Jonty's Mate says:

    NELLIE THE ELEPHANT HAS VERY BIG EARS

  125. 682
    Lil Olmey says:

    Is there no cure for Mad Politician Disease ?
    ‘Mass flu vaccination would be madness’ :
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6722428.ece

    • 695

      I skim read to see if he mentioned 1976. of course he did.

      Health and safety gone mad these days of course, Just as some people aren’t allowed up ladders, vaccines have to be far far safer.

      Ah yes, the author is a well known anti-all-vaccination guy.

  126. 686
    Anonymous says:

    This post mostly intended for the benefit of Mrs Fawkes? Thumb? Under? Much?

    • 740
      Anonymous says:

      It’s called having a relationship with someone – you should try it sometime. Hmm, actually, probably best not too – wouldn’t be fair on the poor sod you try it with.

  127. 687
    South of the M4 says:

    Just seen Brown on TV as he mentioned “… Malloch-Brown has corrected any
    misconceptions… ” etc. As he nervously flicked through his papers which then
    almost fell off the podium. He then launched into a pre-prepared speech which was introduced with bad timing. All signs of someone lying out of their arse.
    Just an observation.

  128. 690
    Somewhere a glory awaits unseen, tomorrow belongs to me says:

    The sun on the meadow is summery warm.
    The stag in the forest runs free.
    But gather together to greet the storm.
    Tomorrow belongs to me.

    The branch of the linden is leafy and
    Green,
    The Thames gives its gold to the sea.
    But somewhere a glory awaits unseen.
    Tomorrow belongs to me.

    The babe in his cradle is closing his eyes
    The blossom embraces the bee.
    But soon, says a whisper;
    “Arise, arise,
    Tomorrow belongs to me”

    Oh England Oh England,
    Show us the sign
    Your children have waited to see.
    The morning will come
    When the world is mine.
    Tomorrow belongs to me!

    • 715
      Adolf Eichmann says:

      You’ve mucked about with it.

      It should read:

      the sun on the meadow is summery warm.
      the stag in the forest runs free
      but gather together to greet the storm
      tomorrow belongs to me

      the branch of the linden is leafy and green
      the rhine gives its fold to the sea
      but somewhere a glory awaits unseen
      tomorrow belongs to me

      the babe in his cradle is closing his eyes
      the blossom embraces the bee
      but soon, says a whisper;
      “arise, ARISE!,
      tomorrow belongs to me..
      tomorrow belongs to me.”

      oh fatherland, fatherland,
      show us the sign,
      your children have waited to see.
      The morning will come
      when the world is mine.
      Tomorrow belongs to me!

      • 817
        Poetry Hour says:

        No doubt this will get Guido in trouble as the BBC and the government detest anything truly cultural and just want us all to watch Britain’s Got [fuck all] Talent, but here’s a terrific little verse by Byron:

        There be none of Beauty’s daughters
        With a magic like Thee;
        And like music on the waters
        Is thy sweet voice to me:
        When, as if its sound were causing
        The charméd ocean’s pausing,
        The waves lie still and gleaming,
        And the lull’d winds seem dreaming:
        And the midnight moon is weaving
        Her bright chain o’er the deep,
        Whose breast is gently heaving
        As an infant’s asleep:
        So the spirit bows before thee
        To listen and adore thee;
        With a full but soft emotion,
        Like the swell of Summer’s ocean.

        There you go. And it costs you fuck-all Licence Fee tax.

        • 822
          Poetry Hour says:

          Sorry, Guido. I’ve completely fucked it for you by posting something culturally uplifting on your site. Expect Nu Labour’s Minister for Pleasure and Pastime to begin regulating blogging forthwith.
          After all, blogs by their very nature exclude people who can’t read and we can’t be having any exclusion in society, can we?

        • 968
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          Lord Byron was SCOTTISH ya tubes….proof, if you need it here:

          http://troonite.co.uk/wp/dark-lochnagar

        • 1369
          tat says:

          quite the little nationalist aren’t you?
          flip flop flip flop.

        • 1554
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          touche to TaT
          :-)

      • 930
        PT Barnum says:

        “When There is Peace”

        “When there is Peace our land no more
        Will be the land we knew of yore.”
        Thus do our facile seers foretell
        The truth that none can buy or see
        And e’en the wisest must ignore.
        When we have bled at every pore,
        Shall we still strive for gear and store?
        Will it be Heaven? Will it be Hell,
        When there is Peace?

        This let us pray for, this implore:
        That all base dreams thrust out at door,
        We may in loftier aims excel
        And, like men waking from a spell,
        Grow stronger, nobler, than before,
        When there is Peace.

        Austin Dobson

        • 984
          Grumpy git says:

          I must go down to the sea again
          The lonely sea and the sky
          I left my vest and socks there last year
          I wonder if they’re dry

          Spike Milligan

        • 1027
          Trough Mixture says:

          I sent my legs out for a walk
          To keep them strong and fit.
          They wouldn’t go without me so
          I’ve made tha bastards sit.

          also Milligan.

  129. 701
    filipinomonkey says:

    Find the Lady competition.

    “Ring Ring Ring”

    £5 if you can pick the Brazilian…

  130. 709
    McGroom says:

    Just heard that the Government “Swine Flu” helpline has been shut down.

    Apparently there was too much crackling on the line

  131. 710
    Nell says:

    Oh by eck where have i put my dentures?? are they still wrapped around one of you tory boys nob???

  132. 711

    Folks like Gordon Brown are often star performers but find the traditional hiearchies and peer groups to be a royal pain in the ass. He’s a great leader and, I figure, the only reason Nick and a few other folks are taking advantage is cuz they’re jealous.

    The issue of international financial policy is great but getting caught up in that is just going to take Labour’s eye off the ball. Miliband is a good frontman for advocating a better approach, but Labour MPs must focus, focus, focus on helping folks get stuff done and feeling like someone gives a shit. It sounds cliche but they will succeed if they help the people succeed.

    • 775
      5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

      Yeah, he was a fucking genius selling our gold off at $235 an ounce. What is it now, just short of $1000? Why should he give it to the poor when he can just piss it up a wall? That’s the caliber of the man.

      • 846
        Abolish the Licence Fee says:

        A Scotsman and an Englishman lived on the border between the two countries. The Scotsman kept a hen which every morning laid an egg for his breakfast. One morning, the hen strayed into the Englishman’s garden and laid the egg there, so the Englishman claimed it as belonging to him, since it was laid on his property. The Scotsman on the other hand, claimed that the hen belonged to him, so, the egg was rightfully his, too.
        They couldn’t settle that matter peacefully, so the Scotsman proposed a solution. They would each put on the shoes or boots of their choice and kick the other in the gonads. The winner would be the one who withstood the pain best and would get to keep the egg.
        The Scotsman went first. He put on his heaviest pair of hobnailed leather work-boots and took a 25 yard run-up to deliver the Englishman a crippling kick in the bollocks which left the latter writhing in a heap for nearly 15 minutes. Eventually, the Englishman rose to his feet and said, “Ok., now it’s my turn.” The Scotsman simply replied: “You can keep the fucking egg.”

        • 978
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          As originally told by that well known Scotsman Bernard Manning at his Embasy Club – and it was about a PAKK1 – not a Scotsman ya mug.

      • 981
        5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

        Hiding behind a Scotsman’s sporran – typical Inglis courage.

  133. 714
    Stormforce says:

    Speedy,

    “Jettison your bitterness and antagonism to others…you piece of shit.”

    You need radical therapy.

    • 773
      |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      Haha! – here is what the great RD Laing said on the subject:

      http://troonite.co.uk/wp/family-good-and-bad

      • 813
        Old Complainer says:

        RD Laing. Yeah, I read his magnus opus The Divided Self once. Most boring load of shite I’ve ever read. You Jocks haven’t come up with an original thinker since JC Maxwell.

        • 985
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          trouble was you read it as a patient, not a therapist which somewhat coloured your view.

      • 955
        stilyagi_air_corps says:

        R D Laing was an alcoholic fruitcake.

        • 987
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          bollocks

        • 993
          Sick of the lot of them says:

          “A drunken Glaswegian thug of very limited intelligence” in fact. A bit like Gorballs Mick or John Reid.

        • 1088
          barefootcontessa says:

          R.D.Laing’s, The Divided Self is ‘A unique study of the human situation’, and a useful book for everyone to read who is interested in knowing how and why we humans ‘tick’.

  134. 717
    Trough Mixture says:

    Fred lad = KP’s out for the rest of the series – the bastard Jonah’s jollop is working already!

  135. 754
    Smelly Nelly says:

    I laugh at all the uneducated trolls that think that Dim Dave is going to save them.

    • 768
      |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      It should not be held against DC that his nose is collapsed from cocain addiction

      • 854
        Steve Expat says:

        Evidence?

        • 990
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          visibly apparent, innit – Proof? From his expenses claim for photoshopping the photos on his website to hide it when people first started commenting on it – evidence enough for you, I trust?

      • 1493
        Pete says:

        An actionable remark if ever I heard one. (Forwarded to DC for further action)

    • 785
      jonty mcginger says:

      I’d vote for Bozo the Chimp if it meant getting rid of this shower of shite.

      Oh wait a minute, he’s already our PM isn’t he?

      • 794
        |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

        well, it pretty much depends on what alternatives you are proposing — DC? No thank you I prefer the devil I know. Alex Salmond? YES, bring it on!

        • 851
          Abolish the Licence Fee says:

          I fully agree. It would be great to see Alex leader of an independent Scotland so we in England can move our clocks forward an hour without having to worry about the screams of horror from a handful of sheep farmers in the Western Isles.

        • 858
          Steve Expat says:

          Given that the (realistic) choice for next PM is either Broon or Cameron, I’m inclined to support Cameron as the man less likely to fuck up the country more than it is already.

          Good luck to the Nats in Scotland and Wales though, the fewer Liebour MPs returned on polling day the better for all of us – I have heard rumours of a massive SNP campaign in Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath to ensure that Gordoom loses his own seat, anyone in the area who hates Gordoom please volunteer to help out!!

        • 883
          Jonty's Mate says:

          What do you care you don’t even live in the country you mug.

        • 899
          Steve Expat says:

          JM, I moved out because I hate what this country has become, where fewer and fewer are working to support more and more (and someone made me a good offer, you have to take work if you can get it in these times)

          I’ll be back once these incompetent Hoons “running” our country have lost their seats in the election. I live in a city with 200,000 Brit expats and a lot of them think the same way. Britiain is a laughing stock abroad now, will be even more once the IMF come in…

        • 905
          Jonty's Mate says:

          Yeah righto like we’re going to believe anything that comes from 200,000 +1 people trying to constantly delude themselves that leaving the glorious utopia of Great Britain was the right thing to do.

          You are just jealous.

        • 927
          Steve Expat says:

          I admit it’s a little selfish to up sticks and leave, but the situation got to the point where around 75% of my income from an average job was going to the government, and I was seeing nothing in return but the bins emptied once a week.

          Add up all the taxes you pay and work it out. Income tax, NI, Council tax, VAT, Petrol tax, alcohol tax etc.. The middle classes (especially those without children) are being squeezed more and more to pay for those who have no interest in working – they can earn 80% of a full-time minimum wage job by staying at home, there is so little incentive for them to go out and work so they don’t.

          Emigration from these middle classes is growing rapidly but silently and is undoubtedly harming tax revenues, expect more emigration from the upper classes once the 50% top tax rate comes in next year, expect city firms to relocate to Switzerland, the Middle East or the US purely for tax reasons.

          It is up to the govt to persuade an estimated 3 million of us working abroad back to the UK, the bunch currently in office have no chance of doing that.

        • 998
          Sick of the lot of them says:

          Steve Expat,
          I fucked off 3 years ago. I’d hoped one day to return once this Nu Labour sewage was out of office, but sadly their debt-overhang is so colossal that I now doubt I’d ever be able to afford to, even if the quality of life in Britain suddenly miraculously improved fifty-fold to what it was 40 years ago. I’m now resigned to a life of exile. Perhaps that’s what ‘they’ want: indigenous Brits out, immigrant newcomers in?

        • 1062
          thick as thieves says:

          oi! steve you fucking tramp: this is not your crackheads anonymous meeting wanker.
          keep your sob story to yourself steve, nobody is interested in hearing your pathetic excuses for why you are homeless.
          the reason you are homeless steve is because you are addicted to cocaine and crack cocaine and cheap vokda and special brew and cider.
          until you face up to the truth and stop telling lies to yourself and others, until you face that and stop trying fool people like you are trying to fool the reader on this thread, until you tell the truth about your miserable tramp existence you will get absolutely nowhere steve.
          all you have to do steve is take a deep breath and say “look, my name’s steve and I’m a useless fucking tory c’unt. I’m just a homeless crack head piece of shit. I want to change but I don’t know how, will someone please help me?”
          you are such a sad fucking c’unt.
          oh, and it is particularly retarded of you of all people to waste the good readers time by bleating on about your own misfortune(crack habit).
          you are a tory troll aswell as a tramp steve. you are one of thatcher’s children innit. the dream of owning your own home was her main theme.
          you got your dream steve and then you stuck it in a crack pipe and smoked it.
          tough shit steve, you are a tory and so you should have insight into the fact that you are one of life’s losers you tramp.
          you are fulfilling a useful function for the market because if you do not have any losers you cannot have any winners either.
          well done steve, so you are good for something after all!

        • 1100
          Steve Expat says:

          Bloody hell! Some cυnt’s got far too much time on his hands.

          Is it time to be worried when you get your own personal stalker??

        • 1149
          thick as thieves says:

          STEVE: I AM TOP BOY YOU CHEEKY FUCKING C’UNT!
          YOU, TROLL, ARE TORY SCUM! YOU FUCKING TRAMP! NEVER MIND STALKING YOU C’UNT I AM GOING TO BASH YOUR FUCKING BRAINS OUT YOU FUCKING CRIPPLE!
          better put your tin hat on steve.
          worst regards,
          thick as thieves
          ps. you’re on the list steve.

        • 1168
          |5p€d0|♣|5h0rt5| says:

          sheer poetry TaT – one of your best :-))

        • 1181
          Steve Expat says:

          Honestly I’m not a Tory, not living on the streets, never done drugs.

          Better luck with different insults next time TwAT

        • 1192
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Tat is *wonderful* I can just imagine him saying all that shite with a James Cagney voice (for those of you old enough to remember) saying “you dirty rat”…ironic really, when it’s Tat that’s the Rat………….the rat-a-tat-tat Rat—–the flipper flopper and fuckpig extraordinairre lol

        • 1195
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Hey “975 Sick of the lot of them” – I will let you into a wee secret — we don’t want you to come back – getting rid of you in the first place was deliberate government policy DESIGNED to cull the country of quitters like you. bye bye.

        • 1384

          Steve,

          Remember that TaT is projecting.

          He’s a crippled, druggie who’s lived on the streets. He basically admitted it.

        • 1579
          thick as thieves says:

          Remember that Anticizen is projecting.
          He’s a crippled, druggie who’s lived on the streets. He basically admitted it.
          you will have to come up with some new lines anitsocialcitizen.
          you tired old c’unt.

        • 1771
          Basket Case says:

          “oh, and it is particularly retarded of you of all people to waste the good readers time by bleating on about your own misfortune(crack habit).”

          TaT,you prick..are you so fucking thick that you dodn’t realise your own little tantrum was do exactly what you accuse Steve of?

          What a waste of sperm you were.

  136. 756
    An organ grinder, referring to his monkey, says:

    Gordon jigs about to any tune I play, – even when he’s on hols.

    Bless!

  137. 758
    Fees Office Clerk says:

    Oh dear! Bang goes a promising sporting career…

    “PM congratulates Tom Daley on diving success”

    http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page20097

  138. 765
    |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    It is well know that originally spoken Scots and spoken English were very similar because the so-called english language came from the tongue of the Clan Ingles and was transmitted to the invaders (and eventually all over the world) by virtue of what is now known as a meme. What differentiated the two then (and still does today) is the inability of the invaders to pronounce idioms like “H” and “R” and “CH” making it obvious it could never have orginially been their language when they cannot even speak its fundamental constructs. The invader tongue persists today mainly in SE england and in the UK media (sadly). For a better explanation of how memes work in everyday life goto:

    http://www.geniusrealms.com/reasoningshow/play04.htm

  139. 771
    A Gallant Gentleman says:

    Dear Nell, I am disgusted at the personal attacks on you, and would like you to know that some of us hold your ladylike response in high regard. There can be no excuse for such disgraceful and cowardly comments. Please do not allow them to upset you, and rest assurred that there would be plenty of candidates willing to reverse the dishonour shown to you.

    • 831
      Engineer says:

      Your words do you credit, sir; you are correct in your assertion that there would be plenty of candidates willing to reverse the dishonour.

      However, do not underestimate Fen Tigresses. They are not shrinking violets, and are quite capable of defending themselves. The pathetic words of an immature, pimply troll will do nothing to deter our Nell, I venture.

    • 848
      nell says:

      You’re both too kind. Thank you.

      I hadn’t realised that the troll (aka damian or one of his mates) was ranting across the blog – have been to the fen tiger cub’s year6 assembly as they all prepare to move on to senior school next term.

      Let’s just hope edb doesn’t want to come our way and start interfering in our senior school here as it does quite well.

      I see malloch brown has been got at by mandy after a promising start and that Ld foulkes has managed to tear himself away from the HoC bar long enough to be generally offensive to everyone. No doubt he was in his cups at the time.

    • 859
      Steve Expat says:

      There’s only a couple of real idiots here but they seem to have developed recently from Liebour trolls into personal insulters and impersonators – obviously friends of Mr McBride, just ignore them.

      • 871
        Smelly Nelly says:

        Nell show us your old man balls.

        • 875
          Jonty's Mate says:

          nell show us your moustace

        • 934
          Jonty's Mate Monitor says:

          Jonty’s mate has a rather smelly t-shirt, worn-out trainers and hasn’t changed his underpants since May. He’s trying to grow a moustache, but can only manage a bit of fluff. And that’s ginger. And curly, like pubes.

  140. 772
    Jonty Mcknobs bum chum says:

    Yeah, I love Jonty’s cock cheese. We met at a Labour student activist fun day where we discussed how to save the world from the wicked Tories whilst intentionally bumping our cocks together in the bouncy castle. Anyway when it finished, one thing led to another and we got down to the real agenda of the day……….”Gender non specific socialist gay bonding in post Thatcher Britain”, ie who gives and who receives. They were heady days my friends, lots head if I remember rightly.

    Anyway, Jonty told me about this scheme whereby you could get paid £9.78 an hour of tax payers money to post utter bollocks on a political blog ran by some right wing fat fucker called Guido Fawkes. Having practically an honorary masters degree in talking absolute shite, I could see I was born for the job, and at £9.78 an hour and all the cock you could suck, it was a no brainer, which was just as well really.

    I’ve never looked back, a skill I developed when trying to avoid looking at Jonty’s ugly eke when he was coming all over my rusty sheriff’s badge.

  141. 774

    I’m generally pleased with the proposed changes to international finance regulation and cooperation. Terrorism, criminality, and other shady behaviour has been given a free ride for decades. In some ways, governments have been complicit in this as it creates holes for black operations and arm twisting to take place, and transnational corporation to export poverty, and assorted gangsters cream off loot and retire to sunny climes on their ill gotten gains. If the potential global renaissance prophesied by the UN is to happen, measures like this look like a necessary step.

    So, if the usual suspects are keeping up with this, one question you might like to ask yourselves is that instead of indulging competitive behaviour for a serotonin buzz, doesn’t a more subtle and laid back position look more profitable? I think it does and, I sure, the smart money will follow as well. It’s why it’s called smart money.

    • 777
      jonty mcginger says:

      “It’s why it’s called smart money.”

      And that’s why you’re posting on here for just £9.78 an hour you prat, nowhere near as smart.

      • 793
        Charles Flaccidwidger says:

        £9.78 an hour for that cut and paste sub Zen cobblers? Seems a bit overpriced to me.

        • 840
          nell says:

          What is poor old labour coming to if it now has to pay people to offer it vocal support?

          Some people will say anything if offered money to do it.

        • 863
          Steve Expat says:

          Don’t worry nell, they’ll run out of money soon.

          The question remains, who do they expect to convert by posting on this blog? I’d say that 99.9% of posters and readers hate the current governemnt with a passion and wouldn’t vote Labour if their life depended on it!

        • 885
          nell says:

          I have a theory Steve that ‘they’ are only one person . I suspect that might be damian McB or one of his mates and their purpose presumably is to spoil guido’s blog .

          I guess they think if they are offensive enough they will deter those of us with a decent point of view from blogging on here and hence guido’s blog will be ruined.

          No doubt guido knows what he’s doing and can erase them if he thinks they are doing too much damage.

        • 892
          Jonty's Mate says:

          I’m behaving now, I’ll offer a temporary truce i’ve got bigger fish to fry at the moment.

        • 903
          Steve Expat says:

          JM, no problem with people disagreeing – it’s freedom of speech, democracy and debate.

          No need to insult people though. Blay the ball not the man (or woman)

        • 1069
          thick as thieves says:

          fuck off tramp.
          this place is not for you steve expat.
          fuck off to conservativefoam, there’s a good cripple.
          you are a troll and you post far too often and you are a boring c’unt.
          bored of you steve.

      • 1445
        GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

        Is that because your arse smarts after receiving it ?

  142. 805
    The Truth says:

    You total and utter fucking bell end.

  143. 807
    Jonah Watch says:

    Jonah jinx already taking effect Pietersen out for remainder of series (OK he has not had a great series so far but…)

  144. 815
    I never said Darling was for the chop, Tom Bradby, I'm honest Gordon says:

    Brown’s new clean up bill, now do you believe that these politicians are utterly corrupt? They have learnt nothing from recent events and still don’t give a toss for the people who put them there. What lying traitors Brown and his party are.

    STATUTORY CODE OF CONDUCT – DROPPED

    A legally binding code of conduct for many aspects of MPs’ behaviour was pledged by Gordon Brown at the end of May. At the time it was thought it could mean MPs who did not meet minimum commitments to their constituents could be fined. But the code did not make it past the second day of debate on the bill in the Commons. Amid criticism it would lead to a flood of legal challenges and a “culture of blank cheques for lawyers”, Justice Secretary Jack Straw agreed to drop it “in the interests of consensus”. The bill does however contain plans for an MPs’ code of conduct purely for financial interests – but the details have been left to the new Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority to work out.

    PARLIAMENTARY PRIVILEGE – DEFEATED

    There was plenty of criticism of an early proposal which would have allowed MPs’ words in the Commons – now protected by Parliamentary privilege – to have been used against them in court. As worded, the original bill said “no enactment or rule of law which prevents proceedings in Parliament being impeached or questioned in any court” should stop “any evidence from being admissible in proceedings” against MPs accused of breaking rules. It was not just MPs who had their doubts. The most senior official in the Commons, Malcolm Jack, warned it could have a “chilling effect” on MPs’ freedom of speech. The government stuck with it but were defeated when more than 20 Labour MPs rebelled to vote against it – among them former cabinet ministers John Reid and Margaret Beckett. A new clause, explicitly preserving Parliamentary privilege regardless of anything else in the Act was later added.

    THREE CRIMINAL OFFENCES – TWO DROPPED

    The government had planned to bring in three new criminal offences specifically aimed at MPs in the wake of the expenses scandal, which prompted many calls for the police to bring prosecutions. The three offences related to providing false information about expenses claims, breaking rules on the registration of interests or the ban on paid advocacy – MPs being paid to raise interest groups’ issues in the Commons. There was some criticism in the Commons that they were redundant anyway as the offences were already covered by existing fraud and theft laws. A Parliamentary committee warned that, as drafted, they could breach MPs’ human rights . Jack Straw argued they should stay because they were “fundamental” to ensuring public confidence. But the paid advocacy offence – which could have seen errant MPs fined up to £5,000 – was dropped by the government when the Bill reached the Lords. Lords leader Baroness Royall said the move followed cross-party consultation and it needed “further consideration”. The government accepted a new offence in the draft Bribery bill covered the same ground better. The following week the financial interests offence was also removed due to “strength of feeling” among peers.

    PEERS TO BE REGULATED – DROPPED

    In early stages of the debate on the bill Justice Secretary Jack Straw, said he expected its arrangements to apply “in due course” to the House of Lords as well as MPs. And he said that eventually the Parliamentary Standards Authority would cover both the Commons and the Lords. On 8 July Lords leader Lady Royall stated that the bill “categorically” would not apply to peers after she “fully reported the very strong, very proper and very cogent views of this House to the government”. A new clause explicitly excluding the Lords from the Act has since been added into the bill.

    IPSA ENFORCEMENT POWERS – REMOVED

    The bill creates an Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority to run MPs’ pay and allowances and review financial interest rules. The IPSA will be responsible for paying out salaries and expenses – or turn down claims – review the allowances scheme regularly and conduct investigations. Originally it was intended it would have the power to instruct errant MPs to repay allowances or amend the Register of Interests and recommend sanctions. But those powers were removed as the bill went through the Lords, instead the decisions will be taken by the existing standards and privileges committee.

    NEW CLAUSES

    Two more new clauses were added in during the Lords stages – one making the investigation and enforcement provisions of the bill subject to a two-year renewal clause. The other requires the new IPSA to provide tax advice to MPs.

    • 827
      P1 says:

      Beautiful – all cleaned up by Brown’s strong decisive action in time for the summer recess (all those hardworking MP’s out and about in what Brown calls their Consti’ewncies, redecorating their second homes and completing lengthy exes applications). Was their any dissent in parliament or were all of them very happy with the new arrangments? I only ask, as I want to know if it is safe to vote for anyone at all?

      PS how did Uddin vote?

    • 834
      nell says:

      He also added a measure to allow resettlement payments to outgoing MP’s – think how much that’s going to cost at the next GE!!

      And why do they require resettlement payments at the point where they have either been kicked out by the electorate or have decided to resign because they know they are going to get kicked out by the electorate?.

      • 845
        P1 says:

        How odd – Brown says he will do something and then, in the small print, it turns out to be the exact opposite. So clean-up politics with independent oversight means cement in the current arrangments, forget the independent nonsense, and add some extra cash for disgraced back-benchers to sweeten the pie.

      • 866
        Steve Expat says:

        I can understand ‘redundancy’ payments for those who contest and lose their seats, this would be quite normal in any other job – but no more than 3 months’ pay, which is long enough to sort everything out that needs to be. It’s 6-12 months at the moment, depending on time served in the House.

        Those who choose to step down should be given nothing, as someone choosing to resign from any other job would be given nothing after the day they leave.

        • 1071
          thick as thieves says:

          said the crack addict tramp.

        • 1097
          Steve Expat says:

          Ah, you’re back. Evenin’ cυntface!

        • 1132
          nell says:

          I don’t think this is the real tat- more like ed mcb / tomw

        • 1155
          thick as thieves says:

          no no, nell, it is me.
          and I will not apologise for the fact that I just don’t like tramps nell, and I certainly think a lady like yourgoodself should not be associating in any way, shape or form with crack addicts like steve.
          the sad thing about steve is that he will whine on and on about how he lost his house and blah blah blah but the truth is nell, that he is a crackhead and he spends too much of his begging money on cocaine.
          don’t waste your pity or help on a junkie like steve expat.
          you are a good person nell, but don’t be fooled by a chancer like steve.
          he is scum and should be treated accordingly.
          and whatever he says to you nell, don’t give him any money. you will not be helping him: he will only spend it on drugs.

        • 1389

          TaT hates himself and was once a tramp.

        • 1562
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          TaT you’re a poet my friend – a real, raw,genuine talent.

    • 838
      The Truth says:

      MASSIVE BORE SCENES.

      NO WONDER YOU ROAM AROUND THE INTERNET.

      TWAT.

      • 1005
        Anonymous says:

        u like short sentences then? might that say that you a quite limited?

        in other words, pravda, how about leaving comments to professionals who know what they are talking about? In stead of from some one like you who obviously starts school this september.

    • 860
      streamfisher says:

      Gets more convoluted by the week. The House (that disreputable House, that House of Horrors) still approaches everything from the standpoint that they are ‘other’ than the man in the street and not subject to common law. If an M.P, Peer or Lord is guilty of fraud, perjury, soliciting or treason we have more than enough legislation in place already to prosecute them, but when a government controls the judicial process we are left with nothing more than a Banana republic, we seem to have a situation now in which THEY rule by a supposed divine right not dissimilar from King Charles 1st. Time to sharpen the axe.
      Might be boring but it is the truth.

  145. 826
    nell says:

    So malloch brown spoke out against the shortage of helicopters and has now retracted it – what a spineless creature he is.

    I hope he didn’t retract the other part of what he said at the same time, which was that:-

    ‘gordon has churchillian faith in his belief that he can convince the British public that He is the One ‘ and then he added ‘ gordon’s future is incredibly bleak’

    • 833
      Solutions not Problems says:

      I think he had his fingers crossed when he “clairified” the first bit anyway. It’s what everyone talking to Mandy has to do to get out of the room.

    • 839
      Engineer says:

      He didn’t retract, he “clarified his statements” – presumably in line with orders from the duty heavy from the number 10 bunker.

      I think we can safely assume that his earlier statements accord most closely with his true opinion.

      • 849
        P1 says:

        These clever chaps like West and Malloch-Brown must be enormous numpties if they forever need to have their words explained. Can’t they get it right first time, what with all the money we pay them etc? Or – is that they have to be asked to change their minds to the party-line if their own, often expert and independent, views do not accord with the Brown-centric view of reality? Oh dear for Lord Amstrad – I give him 3 months max.

        • 895
          Steve Expat says:

          3 months unpaid work in exchange for a Lordship – sounds like a fair deal to him I’m sure ;-)

    • 869
      Steve Expat says:

      nell, he said what he had to say and retracted it when ordered to do so – but the damage was already done, as he knew it would be.

      I say well done to the man, like Dannatt he knew he could not lose personally but could embarrass the Leadership on his way through the exit door.

      This story will not go away over the summer, fingers crossed it might keep the scaremongering “We’re all going to die of ‘flu” stories off the front pages.

      • 890
        incandescent-with-rage says:

        Agree. Although I do find it odd that people in such high positions have to be publicly rapped over the knuckles when they say something out of line, which isn’t very democratic. They (Labour) must know by now that we’re not all as stupid as they think we are and didn’t come down with the last shower. Whether Malloch-Brown said it or not is neither here nor there. Anyone with an ounce of brain knows it to be true.

        • 994
          Angry Voter says:

          You don’t sound very incandescent with rage.

        • 1045
          Hugh Janus says:

          It’s all part of the control-freakery in their DNA. Remember Admiral West? Spoke what was certainly the truth and then got dragged into No10 for a thorough roughing up before that utterly pitiful and cowering appearance in front of the cameras a short while later. Have these poeple no pride? Do they always have to take the thrashing that follows some truth or other? Anyone with principles would simply give McBust the one-fingered salute and walk away with their pride and self-respect intact.

          Silly me – no one with any principles would be part of this grubby, vile and spiteful NuLiebour government.

        • 1159
          Anonymous says:

          He did’nt fancy a walk in the woods.

  146. 830
    It's all Balls says:

    None of us should underestimate Brown – not only is he master of global finance but he’s a leading military strategist as well

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8162969.stm

    Could Chas and MB be right after all?

    Or could it be that he’s the biggest lying scheming spinning power crazed shit ever to enter public life?

    • 841
      Engineer says:

      Phew – tricky one. I’ll need nearly a millisecond to think about that one…

    • 870
      Steve Expat says:

      He’s the biggest lying scheming spinning power crazed shit ever to enter public life.

      No question mark required.

    • 873
      nell says:

      vernon coleman’s book ‘gordon is a moron’ gives plenty of examples of gordon’s ‘brilliance’.

      Coleman calls gordon ” an arrogant statist, committed to the belief that all problems are best solved by central government. In addition to being pig-headed, pompous and arrogant brown is rude and graceless”

      How very true.

      • 877
        Jonty's Mate says:

        It’s an unauthorised biography so of course it’s going to be a pack of big juicy lies so gullible mugs like you buy it.

        • 891
          Steve Expat says:

          As opposed to the fiction he comes out with about spending increases and investments, in the vain hope that people like you will vote for him???

        • 893
          incandescent-with-rage says:

          I wouldn’t buy anything with Gordon’s name on it – even Gin! Prefer Bombay Sapphire.

        • 992

          Trust Bombay Sapphire for to long and it will end up being a Bombe Surprise in your face.

          FFS, reclaim the borders, kick everyone out of Parliament and wrest control of the country back to the people.

          What the fuck is going on? Why are our borders so ‘porous’? Why are the border officials so fucking useless? Why is the Home Office so fucking useless? What more does it take to tell the fuckers (in notional and very temporary charge) that they are wrong, their time is up and it is down to US to bring back control of our lives on this small island.

          Fuck Brown, his government, his cronies, meddling Mandelson and fuck parliament. What have they done for YOU recently?

        • 1026
          the authorisation man says:

          I’ve just authorised it you cυnt.

      • 1041
        Hugh Janus says:

        Very accurate, could not have put it better myself Nell.

        • 1078
          the unauthorisation man says:

          I’ve redacted it shit for brains

        • 1135
          nell says:

          I wouldn’t want to swear but….++++smile++++

        • 1196
          the authorisation man says:

          Why redact it if it’s not true, you tripe hound?

        • 1456
          GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

          As with everything else the jock led scum are trying to dilute every thing English If we dont act soon we as a people will be confined to history !

  147. 872
    A Comrade says:

    Long live the BBC long live Labour

  148. 882
    finger of fudge says:

    “Gordon Brown on Wednesday attacked Conservative plans to shake up City regulation, claiming that handing banking supervision back to a beefed-up Bank of England was “unacceptable” and “completely wrong”.”

    Sorry old chap the matter will be taken out of your sweaty palms

    One year from now you may well be issuing gold stars in Mr Browns Year 1 class

    • 894
      incandescent-with-rage says:

      I thought, and please correct me if I am wrong, that Gordon did all this soon after becoming Chancellor. He handed control to the Banks if I remember rightly.

    • 1347
      filipinomonkey says:

      £5000 donation = 1 gold star

      £10 000 donation = 3 gold stars

      £1 000 000 loan = peerage

  149. 888
    Jonty's Mate says:

    I have to behave now i’ve been told.

  150. 897

    I have some understanding of regulation and markets, and people and cultures. Also, I’ve taken a leading position on this for over the past year which folks can check if they want to waste some time. So, policy and popular understanding is really just shifting behind where I was from the get-go. Help yourself to the biscuit barrel.

    Let go, dear. It’s easier if you don’t struggle.

  151. 900

    Can women cry rape too easily? Do women get pissed too?

  152. 904
    Be gone Gordon! says:

    Does Brown’s Broadcasting Company know no bounds in its willingness to make certain absolutely nothing is the fault of zanuliebour???

    This seems to be taking it a bit far saying the incoming Libdems are to blame for not pulling down the block of flats that burnt killing six people in Camberwell recently.

    “BBC London has discovered that a Southwark Council report written in 1999 found Lakanal House had a “risk of localised fire spread between wall panelled sections”.

    The block was due to be demolished under the council’s Labour administration.

    But Labour councillors have told the BBC that when the council changed hands to the Liberal Democrats the new administration decided to keep Lakanal House. ”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8163767.stm

    Seems to me like the controlling liebour party council had plenty of time to pull it down – since 1999, but now its not their fault according to Pravda

  153. 906
    Coulson iz Innocent says:

    It’s all gone a bit Lord of the Flies on here.

    • 929
      Angry Voter says:

      Piss off piggy, you ugly fuckwit. You’re gonna get hazed big time!

      • 1428
        Sod 'em all says:

        You tell him, Angry. Smash his specs!! I’ve got the conch – just do it!

  154. 914
    return of the dead says:

    Rubbish rouse Guido. You are creating a well used mind theatre facade behind which you hide in fear, in France or otherwise, from McBride’s retribution. It wont be swift but it will be painful…good luck

  155. 915
    Inspector Foyle says:

    GF. give the BBC the telephone number of your local tresor public payment line.

  156. 923
    streamfisher says:

    Anybody else realised that the reply mechanism has completely broken down?. Who’s going to phone Guido (not me).

    • 938
      Angry Voter says:

      Someone had the good idea of going back to a previous thread that isn’t knackered and continuing there. Won’t be long before they’re all fucked though. Why the fuck he went with WordPress when Blagger was OK I don’t know.

      Perhaps he’s being ’sponsored…

      • 996
        PT Barnum says:

        The cartoon thread has only 200 odd replies. Perhaps we should decamp? (No Mandy jokes please.)

        • 1006
          streamfisher says:

          Thanks, thought something wasn’t right despite the ‘evidence’ now you see it now you don’t, a salutary lesson, take note BBC watchers.

  157. 928
    streamfisher says:

    Anyone else realised that the reply mechanism has broken down?. Somebody phone Guido (not me).
    Second attempt at this post, first one mysteriously disappeared into the ether.

    • 942
      Ether says:

      HiYa, you’re wrong. Try crystal meth next time lad.

      • 958
        streamfisher says:

        If you look at the times of the posts you will see that there have been no replies to any posts before 6.15 p.m. for about three hours, chrystal meth yourself, don’t try and kid a kidder. So I see you have finally got it fixed now. Ether was a bit of a givaway, that one did disappear.

    • 983
      caesars wife says:

      bit wierd i lost three

      Labour press conference absolute classic ! message recieved

      looks like some more annoucements tommorow .

      re car scheme boast :how many of the cars brought under the scrappage scheme were made in the UK (ha so it was import boom scheme then)

  158. 937
    streamfisher says:

    Reply if you dare

  159. 939
    Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

    Me on my hols…

    http://www.thrillist.com/pics/oldperv.jpg

  160. 940
    Swiss Bob says:

    The Prime Mentalist was on fine form today for his monthly press conference, he failed to answer a single question except one when he was caught off guard and admitted his policy of not providing the army with enough helicopters has cost British lives:

    Loo-tenant Colonel McMental.

    • 946
      Angry Voter says:

      Couldn’t watch (and listen) to more than 5 minutes of the fuckwit. I am surprised at the press pack. I thought they were hard drink bastards. If I was there I would have decked him.

      Love the way he cut short the lady from Africa. How rude was that!

    • 947
      (Another) Angry Voter says:

      Couldn’t watch (and listen) to more than 5 minutes of the fuckwit. I am surprised at the press pack. I thought they were hard drink bastards. If I was there I would have decked him.

      Love the way he cut short the lady from Africa. How rude was that!

    • 957
      (Another) Angry Voter says:

      Couldn’t watch (and listen) to more than 5 minutes of the fuckwit. I am surprised at the press pack. I thought they were hard drink bastards. If I was there I would have decked him.

      Love the way he cut short the lady from A*rica. How rude was that!

    • 966
      Angry Voter says:

      Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that!

      No I fucking haven’t!

    • 969
      Angry Voter says:

      What words can possibly be a problem? (asterisked to get it through the censors)

      C*uldn’t
      w*tch
      (*nd
      *isten)
      *o
      *ore
      *han
      5
      *inutes
      *f
      *he
      *uckwit.
      I
      *m
      *urprised
      *t
      *he
      *ress
      *ack.
      I
      *hought
      *hey
      *ere
      *ard
      *rink
      *astards.
      *f
      I
      *as
      *here
      I
      *ould
      *ave
      *ecked
      *im.

      *ove
      *he
      *ay
      *e
      *ut
      *hort
      *he
      *ady
      *rom
      *frica.
      *ow
      *ude
      *as
      *hat!

  161. 952
    Anonymous says:

    I fear the “Jonah Curse” may have struck the England Cricket Team after Brown mentioned at his monthly news conference that he was looking forward to watching a lot of Sport during his holidays and specifically mentioned how ell the English Cricket Team was perforiming against Australia – and now Pietersen is out recovering for 6 weeks from a tendon operation in his ankle. You’ve gotta hand it to Gordon that guy has powerful mojo for bringing disaster wherever he focuses !!

    • 1226
      freddie flintoff says:

      hey lad someone tell him to shut the fuck up

    • 1469
      GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

      I hope the Lakeland Swine show is on whilst he’s there he can pick his next cabinet !

  162. 967
    Sir William Waad says:

    If Brown is on medication to lower his anxiety level it could explain the verbal slips that he keeps making – Obama for Omaha, Lootenant for Lieutenant, Electronic Devices for Explosive Devices. Benzodiazepines?

    • 1010

      Too many folks on here are wrong headed and want to impress their friends, so the blog comments and national economy skitter along the bottom. This is madness but in spite of reality delivering a clear signal nobody will let go and capital continues to shrink: the more people cling the more the sand runs between their fingers.

      To succeed, you must unlearn failure.

      • 1035
        bonio says:

        You must still be working on it, you fucking retard.

        • 1061
          Jonty's Mate says:

          Charles is a true visionary of our times, everyone laughed at Einstein and Newton at first just like all you laugh at Mr Hardwidge but he’ll have the last laugh.

        • 1093
          Sky Net says:

          When the planets a smouldering cinder, Charles will be exalted, and sitting triumphant among the ashes still murmering, “You must unlearn failure. As the Zen monk Gor Don prophesised in his teachings on zero per cent growth for graphics fidelity as applied to bashing the bishop, the more you beat, the less you spend”

        • 1584
          freddie flintoff says:

          charles is a fuckin windbag lad talks out of his arse so much , now get in the nets you hoon i need some pratice at bowling the convicts out lad

      • 1164
        |5p€d0|♣|5h0rt5| says:

        Ohhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

        bless CH

        Ohhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    • 1165
      |5p€d0|♣|5h0rt5| says:

      here’s a novel idea – could it be coz the guy is blind in one eye? Virtually ALL great leaders throughout history have had disabiltities (it builds character)

    • 1182
      Observer says:

      It’s not benzos he needs; it’s antipsychotics. Largactyl by the jug full.

  163. 980
    Rant against the Machine says:

    I thought the Prime Minister gave some good answers at his Press conference today……unfortunately the press Pack asked the wrong questions as they didnt match up with the answers !

    • 997
      Angry Voter says:

      I don’t understand why the press didn’t interrupt him more often than they did. Their questions weren’t being answered. How very supine of the UK press. The only questioner who had any balls was the lady from Africa with respect to aid.

      Fuck off UK press you bunch of pansies. You’d be hard pressed wrestling an answer out of Iain Dale. Piss poor result. Apparently the UK press is lauded around the world. Fuck knows why. Celeb stuff maybe, anything requiring a bit of spunk and they just wilt under the pressure.

      Fuck off.

      • 1038
        Hugh Janus says:

        No tough questions at the monthly press briefing (sorry, conference)? Those members of the press who rock the boat unduly either won’t be asked back or, if they are, they will be ignored. This keeps them in line. Very simple.

  164. 1007
    VZz says:

    bbc.com – UK has enough helicopters – Brown

    who should we believe, senior soldiers, or limp dicked scotch nonce who sits at his desk polishing his bell end with one hand whilst he pens books about courage with the other?

    • 1018
      nell says:

      According to malloch brown today gordon still thinks he can convince us to vote for him.

      Delusional.

  165. 1013
    |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    This is dedicated to Nell – a similarly redoubtable woman. As it says in the words of the song, “They dinnae call her Kate it was Miss Dalrymple”. Get our Nell the wrong way and she would chew the balls of you too, I am quite sure! :-))

    http://troonite.co.uk/wp/kate-dalrymple

    enjoy!

  166. 1017
    nell says:

    I didn’t see gordon’spress conference – been busy today – so I’ve just spent a few minutes reading up about it on the BBC’s excellent balanced news site.

    - Gordon ‘ made a swift entrance into his last press conference before the summer
    - he presented himself as a man of action in charge of a government fzzing with energy and ideas
    - he quoted military commanders who have praised the equipment that he has made available to them in Afghanistan
    - He showed resolve.’

    Sorry but I’ve laughed so much it’s made me cry!!!! Obviously the BBC news department is now specialising in black comedy.

    • 1024
      vernon says:

      “…..he presented himself as a man of action in charge of a government fzzing with energy and ideas.”

      That is so fucking funny.

    • 1055
      PT Barnum says:

      What the BBC correspondent actually wrote:

      “Instead, Gordon Brown spent some ten minutes at the start of the meeting not answering questions but trying to present himself as a man of action in charge of a government fizzing with energy and ideas.

      It was as if he was trying to list the gathered journalists into submission.

      But they were patient enough. And soon the PM was under fire. ”

      Doesn’t sound all the Brown-friendly to me.

  167. 1025
    Eastender says:

    Just cuaght Gordon Brown’s comments about helicopters

    WHAT A FOUL MAN HE IS

  168. 1028
    RavingMad says:

    Isn’t it about time that LabourLost and Gordon Brown both fucked off and left us all in peace?

    What has been going on these last couple of days? Loads of briefings and reports, even the Act to sort out MPs behaviour(sic) has become law – law FFS!! And we have Brown talking about Afghanisatn and reworking history following Malloch-Brown’s comments about helicopters.

    FFS what sort of people are these and why do we put up with it?? Can’t we call a fun day and get everybody to come to a BBQ were we will burn all MPs for charity???

    • 1116
      Steve Expat says:

      Don’t forget the 26 announcements made on the last day of school – you know, trivial things like 13bn borrowed last month and a drop in tax revenue of 32bn this year to date…

      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6721120.ece

      A mountain of bad news was buried by the Government as it rushed out reports and 26 ministerial statements the day before MPs go on holiday. Whitehall sources said that many of the reports were ready to be published weeks ago, and would normally be released in stages, but ministers had insisted they all be delayed till yesterday.

      • 1247
        P1 says:

        That’s only the stuff they really had to own up to. Imagine what horrors have been swept under the carpet.

        May be the summer would be a good time for anyone of principle in the Labour Party upper echelons (yes, I know this is a long-shot), to make sure Brown doesn’t get back into No.10 after his, oh so well deserved, summer holiday. Why not get the cabinet to tell Brown that the game is up (as everyone knows it is), and the only way out with any kind of grace is for the Labour Party to ditch its leader, stick someone in who doesn’t mind losing an election heavily (Straw, Darling or, god help us, Beckett, I suppose – all the others are fantasists who think Labour has a future) and call a general election in the Autumn.

        Then, when the IMF get involved at least we can say that we have “sacked the person who is responsible”. As the PM told us, this is the right thing to do.

        • 1262
          barefootcontessa says:

          ‘They’ (those in power over us) always say, ‘it’s the right thing to do’. Wonder why they’re always right?!

        • 1295
          Steve Expat says:

          Does anyone here know how to petition the IMF to get involved?

          From the official statistics we are in a worse position than countries where they have already stepped in, what the real figures are I have no idea – but they won’t be better, will they?

          If Gordon is so sure that he is doing the “Right Thing”, then surely the “Right Thing To Do” is to call a general election – so that we can all reaffirm exactly what we think of his government…

  169. 1033
    PT Barnum says:

    News from 19:25 this evening

    A British soldier has died in an explosion in Afghanistan, the Ministry of Defence has confirmed.

    The soldier, from 1st Battalion Coldstream Guards, attached to 1st Battalion Welsh Guards, died on Wednesday.

    The MoD said he was killed whilst on a patrol in Nad e Ali District, central Helmand Province.

    His death brings to 188 the total UK deaths in Afghanistan since 2001 and is the 19th this month.

  170. 1037
    PT Barnum says:

    Meanwhile, we, the taxpayers, are paying to keep people in prison who should have been released and deported, and then paying them compensation for keeping them in prison beyond their sentence.

    I wish that was something I’d just made up.

    • 1047
      jumbo says:

      You couldn’t make it up. £12 million paid out to reduce knife crime – it goes up. £12 million wasted to reduce underage pregnancies – it goes up. Truth is truly stranger than fiction in the fucking twilight zone that is NuLabour Britain.

  171. 1042
    nell says:

    Comment on troll infestation.

    It’s clearly aimed at trying to ruin guido’s blog. Who would want to do that?

    damian McB – his mate Tom wtsn – and their mate charlie whl&n and then there’s edblls trying to be one of the boys.

    Let’s look at these trolls we have on here and speculate on which fits each of the above characters.

    Spido Skirts – vicious and unprincipled – hmm – damian mcb?

    Jontys’s mate? (ie mate to the above spido) – oh easy – tomWtsn

    masterbaiter – (fancies himself perhaps as the chief plotter) ? – charlieWhln

    Of course that leaves the serial labour poster trying to bore us all to death – charles hardhide – could this be? is it possibly? no surely not!!!! – yes perhaps it is – gordon!!! Or is it edb trying to post what he thinks gordon would say? (not sure about that one – does edb have the intelligence to post comments like hardhide?

    • 1050
      PT Barnum says:

      Having spent time reading ‘Mike Naylor’ on Robinson’s blog, I’m disinclined to think any of the trolls are the scum floating on the top of the stagnant pool that is our government. This crew are the Labour Party equivalent of those people who are paid to start violence at G8 et al protests and discredit everyone taking part.

      They’re rent-a-gobs who trash anything for a quick buck and a cheap thrill.

      • 1068
        nell says:

        Point is PT – they are paid, by whom? and for what purpose?

        • 1073
          nell says:

          More importantly are they being paid by us, the taxpayer?!!!! Or in CharlieW’s cae the poor shop floor workers?

      • 1082
        PT Barnum says:

        Oh, I agree they are here at the behest of the Brown bunker , just that they’re not any of the people we so despise.

        And yes, where is the money coming from? The Labour Party are broke. Several unions have disaffiliated and taken their funds with them, along with a hefty slice of the party membership. They’re up to their ears in debt (sound familiar?) with no hope of repaying and precious few assets.

        • 1085
          PT Barnum says:

          May 2008, Guardian:

          Senior officials in the Labour party, including Gordon Brown, could become personally liable for millions of pounds in debt unless new donors can be found within weeks, the Guardian has learned.

          The party has five weeks to find £7.45m to pay off loans to banks and wealthy donors recruited by Lord Levy, Tony Blair’s former chief fundraiser, or become insolvent. A further £6.2m will have to be repaid by Christmas – making £13.65m in all. The sum amounts to two-thirds of the party’s annual income from donations.

          The figures are a conservative estimate as they do not include interest that will also have to be paid. A Labour source said that although the total debt was listed as £17.8m on the Electoral Commission website, the true level, with interest, was nearer to £24m.

        • 1092
          PT Barnum says:

          2009, Guardian:

          Labour remains between £16m and £18m in debt.

          Equally alarming is its drop-off in membership. The last published figure, at the end of 2007, was 176,891. When Tony Blair became leader in 1994 it was 305,189 and the figure rose to 405,238 after the party won power. Labour will not say officially how many members it has, only that the number is “steady”. NEC sources say there was a surge in the months after Brown took over in 2007 but that since then numbers have dropped by around 10%, suggesting the figure now stands at about 160,000.

          Debt repayment, meanwhile, is now funded by commercial activity such as conferences and sponsorship, while day-to-day operations are paid for out of recurring membership and affiliation fees from unions and other affiliated organisations. This brings in a reasonably assured income of around £5m a year. Jon Mendelson, who is to Gordon Brown what Lord Levy was to Tony Blair, managed to extract £1m for Labour from JK Rowling last autumn, before Lord Sainsbury followed up with £500,000 in December. Insiders say things have “stabilised”.

        • 1103
          grobdj says:

          The money will come from us:

          The debt will be moved to a Governent-controlled bank, then quietly written off, methinks

        • 1105
          Stick Gate on anything connected with Brown says:

          Somebody posted earlier, an article drawing the similarity between Brown and Nixon, which i found very interesting. Brown would get away lightly if he was defeated in an election. He would spin it as “a sea change” much as Callaghan did. How much more apt it would be, and how much more satisfying, if he were to leave office in disgrace.
          One can but dream!

    • 1074
      Joe Gargery says:

      You must have them worried Nell, if they’re attacking you!
      If they can’t destroy your arguments, they’ll try to destroy you.
      I may not always agree with you, but i recognize your honesty and concern. Perhaps a new career in politics beckons? A Fen Tigress let loose in parliament? What larks!

      • 1081
        J0nty's M8 says:

        Oh it’s a smaller world than you think

      • 1083
        nell says:

        No thanks family to look after – much more important job. But doesn’t stop me keeping a close eye on dishonest incompetent politicians!

        I shall do the same when Dave’s crew is elected next year.

      • 1090
        nell says:

        1052 – jonty’s m8 – ’smaller world’ as in ‘I know where you live?’

        Be my guest. Come and have a cup of tea you might learn a few things about how real people in England have to cope with rising local crime, inadequate nhs systems, failing education and lack of care for the elderly.

    • 1086
      Art. 38 says:

      Hardwidge is too rational to be Gordon.

      But I agree it could be a coordinated attack, courtesy of the Labour dirty tricks department.

      • 1094
        J0nty's M8 says:

        I’ll

        • 1096
          J0nty's M8 says:

          tell

        • 1098
          J0nty's M8 says:

          you

        • 1101
          J0nty's M8 says:

          who

        • 1102
          J0nty's M8 says:

          I

        • 1109
          J0nty's M8 says:

          am

        • 1111
          J0nty's M8 says:

          I’M THE SCATMAN

          Ski bi di bi di do bap do
          Do bam do

          Bada bwi ba ba bada bo
          Baba ba da bo
          Bwi ba ba ba do

          Ski bi di bi di do bap do
          Do bam do

          Bada bwi ba ba bada bo
          Baba ba da bo
          Bwi ba ba ba do

          Ski bi di bi di do bap do
          Do bam do

          Bada bwi ba ba bada bo
          Baba ba da bo
          Bwi ba ba ba do

          Where’s The Scatman?

          I’m the scatman

          Repeat after me
          It’s a scoobie oobie doobie scoobie doobie melody

          I’m the Scatman.

          Sing along with me
          It’s a scoobie oobie doobie scoobie doobie melody

          Yeah!

          I’m the Scatman

          I’m the Scatman

        • 1138
          nell says:

          1082 jonty’s mate. Very intelligent. Obviously that’s what labour means when it says ‘ education education education’

          Say it enough you’ll all end up believing it – the rest of us already know it is a myth.

        • 1207
          Cack Handed says:

          So you’re the member for Winchester then? There is indeed something of the shite about you.

        • 1318
          tat says:

          nah jonty, you’re just a cripple who vistits scatology sites.

        • 1396
          Sailor says:

          I knew it was you all along.

  172. 1043
    NewBoy says:

    Hi, I’m NewBoy. I’ve got nice tits, and I have an unspecified job in the city……..so fuck you.

    nell dear, have another bottle of wine on me and don’t forget to let your pussy out for a troll around the estate.

    Catch yer later guys.

    • 1051
      Jonty's Mate says:

      Wasn’t me my truce is still in effect for another 24hrs.

      • 1060
        Jonty's Mate aka NewBoy says:

        OK nell, fair cop, it was me, miserable little cocksucker that I am.

        • 1067
          GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

          Many a true word spoken in jest ! Jonty’s Bitch !

        • 1084
          J0nty's M8 says:

          Coming from someone who writes replies with his dick in his hand and his man boobs flopped out i’ll bow to your superior experience.

        • 1319
          tat says:

          shut up you slag.
          go rim your boyfriend and leave the rest of us in peace innit.

    • 1099
      thick as thieves says:

      oh for fucks sake pack it in you c’unts.
      didn’t you see the sign on the door as you came in you fucking rimmers?
      “no zanulab troll gayfests”
      fuck off to labourmustbepissed or labourbloggers4war.
      c’unts like you are not welcome here, you offer no value.
      goodbye new labour cripples.
      oh: no refund.

      • 1107
        PT Barnum says:

        Does any other regular here find themselves becoming absurdly fond of TaT?

        • 1113
          Art. 38 says:

          No, he’s an odious nutter.

        • 1115
          TaT appreciation Society (Only cripples need apply) says:

          He’s a star! Every day i change my opinion of who he is. I do notice however, that he gives Steve Expat a gentle ribbing and Steve treats him kindly.

        • 1118
          nell says:

          He’s an extreme – but he’s not labour – that has to be a point in his favour.

          “Handle with care”

        • 1119
          Steve Expat says:

          Do you think I should be worried at having my own personal stalker??

          I’m torn between…

          1. Ignoring him (might shut him up),
          2. Calling him a cυnt (stooping down to his level) or
          3. spending half an hour of my time trying to think up crap to invent about him (my time is more valuable than that)

          Any suggestions??

        • 1124
          TaT appreciation Society (Only cripples need apply) says:

          It’s fame of a sorts mate! Some of us nobodies would dream of having a celebrity stalker. It could be worse! You could have Jordan dogging you’re every move.

        • 1125
          PT Barnum says:

          The trouble is, he’s a rottweiler who will attack anyone. But it’s funny when he sets himself on the trolls cos they don’t like it up em.

          Steve, I think it’s because he’s intimidated by you and like any nervous dog, he responds by p***ing all over your leg.

        • 1128
          TaT appreciation Society (Only cripples need apply) says:

          But who is he?

        • 1133
          Steve Expat says:

          There was a rumour here a few months back that he was Guido’s alter ego, but then he turned rude and personal rather than being the troll he was before – and Guido’s now on the beach in France!

          I think Damian McPoison is the best guess at the moment, or one of his wonks being paid by the hour at L.HQ.

          He/she/it seems to be known by a shortened name during the day and a longer one in the evenings, so possibly his boss worked him out – I’m an IT manager, it’s easy to do ;-)

          Guido could use technology to block him if he wished (by name or IP address), the question remains, why has he not?

        • 1139
          George Carman says:

          Unlike the usual mindless trolls, TaT is very funny. I’ve lost count of the times he’s creased me up. But are you swearing on a stack of Gordons budget projections that he is’nt known to you?

        • 1147
          Steve Expat says:

          I certainly don’t know him!!!!!!

          Look at 1036 above for an example of what I’ve been getting from him – and yes it is all untrue!!

        • 1166
          Cyber Tracker says:

          O/T What happened to anonymous mysogynist? Last i remember, he/she was tempted by Goatse.

        • 1175
          Steve Expat says:

          lol – not been seen for a couple of days here.
          Hope they didn’t think we were joking about how bad goatse is?

        • 1177
          Room 7 The Priory Clinic says:

          Who was joking?

        • 1179
          Steve Expat says:

          Anon Misog kept asking what it was, they got lots of replies saying basically “Don’t go there. No really, don’t. You will be mentally affected by it” etc… and I even gave a safe link to a peripharal discussion on the subject.

          Anon Misog has not been seen since that fateful day…

        • 1238
          no longer anonymous says:

          TaT first popped up years ago but then either got banned or took an extended break. He used to use the word spastic a lot back then.

        • 1270
          tat says:

          I have never been banned and I don’t get modded.
          I am too popular: blogatively speaking the great hero thick as thieves is worth his weight in gold.
          as I behave in such a juvenile delinquent fashion I often wonder why I have not been banned and that is the only reason I can think of.

        • 1281
          no longer anonymous says:

          You’re not the real tat.

        • 1375
          tat says:

          yes I am you sp@stic.

      • 1117
        J0nty's M8 says:

        This is my disco now

        So check out my message to you
        As a matter of fact
        Don’t let nothing hold you back
        If the scatman can do it
        So can you
        Everybody says that the scatman stutters
        But doesn’t ever stutters when he sings
        But what you don’t know
        I’m gonna tell you right now
        That the stutter and the scat is the same thing
        Yo, I’m the scat man
        Where’s the scat man? I’m the scat man.

        Why should we be pleasing any politician heathens who would
        Try to change the seasons if they could
        The state of the condition
        Insults my institution
        And it only makes me crazy and my heart like wood

        Everybody stutters one way or the other
        So check out my message to you
        As a matter of fact
        Don’t let nothing hold you back
        If the scatman can do it, brother
        So can you, I’m the scat man.

        Bada bwi ba ba bada bo
        Baba ba da bo
        Bwi ba ba ba do

        Ski bi di bi di do bap do
        Do bam do

        Everybody stutters one day or the other
        So check out my message to you
        As a matter of fact
        Don’t let nothing hold you back
        If the scatman can do it
        So can you

        I hear you ask all about the meaning of scat
        Well I’m the professor and all I can tell you
        Is while you’re still sleeping
        The saints are still weeping
        ‘Cause things you call dead haven’t yet had the chance to be born
        I’m the scatman

        I’m the scatman

        Ski bi di bi di do bap do
        Do bam do

        Bada bwi ba ba bada bo
        Baba ba da bo
        Bwi ba ba ba do

      • 1146
        PT Barnum says:

        No idea who he is. And I think the truth would be disappointing.

        I find his enthusiasm for lesbians in his political movement rather confusing, tho’.

        • 1160
          Bow Street Irregulars says:

          Perhaps the error is in the word “his”

        • 1163
          thick as thieves says:

          who am I?
          I’M TOP BOY!
          AND IT IS SWEET!
          WAKEY-WAKEY TORY TROLLS – QUICK! YOU ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME – THE ELECTION IS LOOMING NO MANIFESTO AND DAVE’S DODGY AS FUCK IT IS ALL GOING TERRIBLY TERRIBLY WRONG TORYDALEKS!
          I think I can now safely state that as the conservative party has failed to gain the losses of the labour party in the polls and considering the great ill feeling towards the new labour war party, it is most probable that we will have a hung parliament after the next general election.
          excellent.
          what a splendid outcome, a great result for democracy and debate.

        • 1173
          Don King says:

          My Boy’s going all the way to the top! You heard it here first!

  173. 1049
    nell says:

    I wonder why this troll infestation feel it necessary at the moment to attack nell.?

    Is it because they believe what she is saying is hitting the mark?

    I think what you are doing damian, tom, charlie and ed is firing a machine gun (lucky you’ve got one. Our lads in Afghanistan aren’t given such luxuries), except trolls, you are in a metal box and the bullets you are firing are ricocheting back on you.

    Keep up the good work!!!!

    • 1053
      Jonty's Mate says:

      If there’s ruckus I ain’t the one who brought it
      because I just dropped some sedative hypnotics
      Wyeth, astrazenica and pfizer
      in the labratory cookin up tranquilizers
      Get your lean on – that’s codeine
      opiates from vicodin to morphine

    • 1065
      GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

      This c*nt thinks you can make corned beef from dead horses ! Thick jock faggot !

      • 1070
        Jonty's Mate says:

        Clearly you’ve never been to Boliva little Englander. Go back to drinking your stella and pissing yourself.

      • 1074
        J0nty's M8 says:

        Clearly you’ve never been to Boliva. Go back to drinking your stella and pissing yourself.

    • 1203
      |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      > 1023nell says:
      > July 22, 2009 at 9:28 pm
      > I wonder why this troll infestation feel it necessary at the moment to attack nell.?

      I am confused…Nell writes about herself as if she is somebody else?!# Has the mask finally slipped? Is the lovely gentle Nell a troll after all? Seems that way. Ach what the fuck, let’s pretend she’s reall – THAT’S entertainment de-dum-de-dah-de-dum

      • 1343
        Anonymous says:

        She’s quoting what someone else has already said moron!

        • 1570
          |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Thanks *blushing*
          must be overwork – remember the great Hilda Baker? She would call me a workafrolic__________ach, never mind, yer prolly too young to remember dear ol’ Hilda, RIP

  174. 1063
    GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

    This blog is fucked up, you make a reply and it could end up anywhere ! Well Fucked Up !

  175. 1080
    nell says:

    Labour tonight are braced to lose norwich north in tomorrow’s by-election.

    Mandy cancelled an appearance out of fear of contracting swine flu – but cameron has been there today.

    If labour loses here it will only be the 2nd time in the last 30 years.

    There is a general consensus that gordon has AGAIN made a tactical error by banning Dr Ian Gibson standing for labour here. He was, locally, very popular. Perhaps gordon was jealous of that. He just wants to be loved.

    • 1091
      Art. 38 says:

      Gibson was a dissenter and Gordon tolerates only total obedience – that’s why he’s surrounded by lowlifes and toadies. Further indication of his unstable mind.

      • 1518
        barefootcontessa says:

        Brown behaves like a dictator. He surrounds himself with unelected ‘lords’ etc, even HE wasn’t elected! And we’re fighting in Afghanistan to fight tyranny! To defend democracy?!

        1984 and Kafka hardly touch the surface of this unspeakable government newlabour, who have stolen our democracy, and our liberties.

        The shock tomorrow, when we know the result of the by election, will be to find out that ANYBODY would be stupid enough to vote for newlabour. Sadly, some mothers do have them!

    • 1129
      Pluperfect Subjunctive says:

      The real question is where Labour will come. The odds on them coming 4th after the Lib Dems and Greens have shortened from 10/1 to 4/1 over the course of the campaign. There is much chatter about whether the Greens will beat the Lib Dems too. Again they have momentum in the betting markets coming in from 12/1 to 5/1. The Greens only polled 2.7% in 2005 so if they did come second it would be a spectacular performance. Count on Friday morning (not overnight) with result expected 12.00 noon – 1.00 pm.

    • 1264
      barefootcontessa says:

      Mandelson ‘ll never get the swine, he’s chockablock with tami.

    • 1271
      anonymous rumour says:

      Of course Mandy has to be sooo careful about contracting infections…

  176. 1095
    Blackburn Raver says:

    How can they spin the numbers of helicopters and other vital eqipment.Does this freak Brown have no shame.
    He should write a book on SHAME,he knows all about it.

    • 1108
      nell says:

      He won’t write it – but someone will write about this most hated incompetent PM of all time. Soon I hope!!

      Sadly the tragedy is that we are losing young men ,poorly equipped and unsupported by this criminal government, on the frontline of a questionable war in Aghanistan. Only thing that can be said for this war is that gordon thinks this war makes him look ‘ macho and sexy’

      The longer this foul labour govt.is in power , the more young men we are going to lose.

    • 1123
      Steve Expat says:

      Helos went up by 60%, troops by 100%.

      The second bit went unmentioned by Broon inthe Commons. Spin spin spin and more fucking spin. Take note Dave, this is not good.

      General election tomorrow please, for everyone not just Norwich North.

    • 1221
      CCL says:

      Because that’s what they do.

  177. 1110
    Art. 38 says:

    Brown hails Sven’s return to UK
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8163357.stm

    “Gordon Brown appears keen to swap management tips with ex-England boss Sven-Goran Eriksson, who has made a surprise return to English football.

    Mr Brown, who said he had known Mr Eriksson when he was England manager… added that he would spend part of the recess catching up on the summer’s sporting events.”

    That’d be a scintillating conversation, wouldn’t it?

    Plus:
    - Explains why England was a disaster when Sven was manager
    - That’s the Ashes fucked then

    • 1114
      PT Barnum says:

      Not to mention Notts County. Hey, even Brown has to do good sometimes through sheer chance!

      • 1127
        nell says:

        No PT gordon couldn’t do anything good ever – not even through chance – especially not through chance.

        Why don’t they just lock him up in the no.10 basement and try and front for him?

        Truth is mandy or edb couldn’t do any better with the electorate.

        • 1130
          The seducer says:

          At least Sven was a wow with you girls!

        • 1142
          nell says:

          Presumably you are referring to mandy

        • 1156
          The seducer says:

          For a Monty Burns lookalike, he has’nt done to badly.
          1 Nancy dell’Olio
          2 Ulrika
          3 Fariah
          Come on Nell, as a women, tell us what his attraction is.

        • 1161
          nell says:

          Wouldn’t know . He’s old, wrinkly and balding and more importantly doesn’t know how to be faithful. Presumably they like him for his money.

          I wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole. (here is , of course, something of prezza about him.)

        • 1170
          Dissapointed England Fan says:

          I’d willingly touch him with a bargepole, but then i carry a grudge.

    • 1218
      P1 says:

      Good that Brown feels after all his successes that he can take a well deserved break watching sports events – (as Gordon would say – “Britain winning the Ashes, English tennis star Murray nearly winning some more stuff, pity I missed out on the English Lions etc (did I get the namechecks right Mandy?”).

      With the economy stabilised and banking system repaired, politics cleaned up and with the war in Afghanistan going so well that it’s a one hour a week job for the PM now, he really does deserve a nice long break. Just like all those squaddies holed up in Helmand who also deserve a couple of weeks somewhere nice with their families, after all they’ve all demonstarted almost as much hard work and “courage” as Brown, haven’t they?

      PS next time Brown goes to Helmand, will he travel around by helicopter?

      • 1220
        CCL says:

        for his safety I think the answer will be yes, whilst the real hero’s will go by road and on foot, what a p*!t.

      • 1301
        Steve Expat says:

        Next time he goes to Helmand, please can he be given one of the “Snatch” Landies that some of our brave men are still using. See how he likes it being almost defenceless aginst the enemy.

        These Land Rovers are what are in use in Northern Ireland. They are bulletproof but not bombproof, totally unsuitable for dealing with the prevelant roadside IEDs on the roads of Afghanistan.

  178. 1121
    Reverend Fistwick says:

    Fissssst

  179. 1134
    Lord Halfwit of Malloch says:

    When I said “the troops dont have enough Helicopters” what I meant to say was the “Troops do have enough helicopters”, will that do Gordon, can I go now?

    • 1157
      nell says:

      ainsw*orth – I need to say in order to please gordon so that he promotes me to the HoL that:-

      - our troops in Afghanistan do have enough body armour -we have sent out copious amounts of tin foil and cling film.

      - our troops don’t need helicopters – it is a lie – gordon has “blessed” the army’s unprotected 4 wheel drives – so no soldier will die because of travelling in one of them.

      - our bomb disposal squad does not need remote controlled devices to defuse IED’s – it’s much cheaper to send in real men instead, even if you lose some in the process.

      -gordon says so and I know he will reward me handsomely for being economic with the truth.

    • 1158
      nell says:

      modded – that’s a surprise – what did I say? OK I’ll try again.

      • 1314
        Sarge says:

        Sadly more helicoptors will not help. The Treasury charge the MOD 6% per annum for storing equipment. Hence,if it does not get used quickly,it gets sold off.

        There is also a rule that when new assets are acquired, others must be sold. There is even an agency which deals with this. We used to have some effective mine clearance kit in Bosnia in the 90s ,which would still be effective in Afghanistan. It’s been sold.

        Labour efficiencies at work.

        • 1317
          PT Barnum says:

          Is this a Labour innovation or was it true before 1997? In either case, that 6% figure is an insulting absurdity, moving money from one pot of taxpayers’ money to another pot in a sleight-of-hand that reduces defence spending.

  180. 1143
    Steve Expat says:

    Does this explain where one of our trolls went??

    Unarmed man in speedos shot dead by police
    An unarmed man wearing only swimming trunks was shot dead by a plainclothes police officer who had confronted him for driving erratically.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/5888053/Unarmed-man-in-speedos-shot-dead-by-police.html

    • 1148
      nell says:

      ++smile++

      We can but hope.

      Will tomorrow’s news tell us that this man – shockingly- was the well known mp tomw found to be in possesion of largely consumed ……..illegal bottles of …… american southern comfort.

      Obviously a pal of that bar lover – Ld Foulkes.

    • 1150
      PT Barnum says:

      It’s not funny really, so why can’t I stop laughing?

    • 1154
      Abdul Mohamed Yassi says:

      not S,p,e,d,o infidel – S,p,e,d,o good driver.

  181. 1153
    Abdul Mohamed Yassi says:

    You infidels

    This board is swearing many swears

    allah will fuck your picket fence

  182. 1171
    nell says:

    gordons’ press conference (spoof) – only slightly : -

    “” – our troops do have enough armour – we have sent out copious amounts of cling film and baking foil.

    -we don’t need helicopters – gordon has ‘blessed’ our 4 wheel drives – everyone is safe.

    - our IED disposal squad does not need remote controlled drones – using real men is cheaper. “”

  183. 1184
    Observer says:

    Lazy bunch of drunken idiots if you ask me.

  184. 1199
    |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    Where the f@ck are the Bea Enn Pea when you need them – on holiday in France, or what :-(

  185. 1212

    I see the Muslims, of Leytonstone this time, are behaving barbarically again.

    • 1310

      Mo’Hamed
      Mo’ problems

      • 1399
        tat says:

        I hear the zionists of israel are murdering Palestinian children again.
        never mind the muslims, if we sort out the zionists I think the world would be a far, far safer place.
        and let’s stop occupying other peoples countries. let the muslims have their rocky land.
        who bloody cares.
        all our toil is for nought.
        TROOPS OUT NOW!

  186. 1215
    KWOK says:

    Scottish Inventions

    The Scotch Pie

    Wikipedia – A Scotch pie is a small, double-crust meat pie filled with minced sheeps anus parts or other filthy grissle. It may also be known as a Brown pie or a Lying pie (although the latter term is ambiguous) to differentiate it from other varieties of savoury pie.

  187. 1216
    Steve Expat says:

    Morning all – election day in Norwich North today, shame there isn’t one for the rest of us.

    DT thinks that Liebour might get as little as 8% of the vote, which would be rather amusing…

    • 1219
      CCL says:

      Steve,

      But nothing will change, we will still have them in power, the shame will not mean resignations, we can’t even see the result tonight as the votes are to be counted tomorrow (third world or what), we are still being fed lies and spin, 9 more months of this of this not fit for purpose government, how has it come to this?

      • 1250
        P1 says:

        What about Martin’s old seat in Glasgow. Martin’s gone to claim his attendnace fees in the Lords, so the poor constituents will have to do without the day-to-day support of their hard-working MP for months and months. How ill they cope? When Brown finally calls a by-election it will be October or November and so too dark to check postal ballot papers properly (perhaps this is the plan?).

        • 1275
          Steve Expat says:

          There should be a rule saying that the election must be within say 3 months of the resignation or death of the incumbent MP.

          The people of Glasgow have been denied an election now by the govt, who are hoping they will be more popular in the future than they are now.

          I hope the SNP are going to go big on this, no-one but Labour has been returned in that seat in living memory. Dave could do better than not stand a candidate and let the few Tory votes there go to a candidate with a better chance of winning it from Liebour.

        • 1316
          tat says:

          there should be a rule saying no alcoholic crackhead tramps allowed to visit order-order.
          that would stuff you, wouldn’t it steve?

    • 1223
      It's all Balls says:

      “What the country wants is for me to carry on and fix the problems which all started in America”

      BBC news Friday 24th

    • 1229
      freddie flintoff says:

      is that 8 % fraud votes , why would any hoon vote for the so called “labour” party i will never know lad

      • 1233
        Stronghold Barricades says:

        Postal votes?

      • 1312
        Geoffry Boycott says:

        just make sure your rubbin as much balm into that tendon as possible , by heck you young uns dont know your born , back int sixties if you were bleedin you still had to play .

        • 1582
          freddie flintoff says:

          hey geoff lad i on one leg at the moment dont worry i got the aussies lined up , bring on edgebastion

  188. 1217
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    Guido,if you are up yet.

    How much money has the Sunlight Centre for Open Politics raised so far in it’s
    attempt to raise money to finance a Prosecution of The Jackboot One of Redditch.

  189. 1222
    nell says:

    Just published without fanfare on the Treasury website – labour’s proposed budget cuts if they win the next election. £100million off education. £3 billion reduction overall .

    Not enough of course but cuts nonetheless and just as gordon was spouting only yesterday for public consumption about ‘investment, investment, investment’

    Interesting by-election today hope they get less than 8% of the vote and end up 4th – mind they’ll spin even that as a victory. Morning folks.

  190. 1231
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    Guido,

    Why moderation about The Jackboot fundraising?

    • 1350
      Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

      Apologies Guido,you must have had a lay in.

      What about an answer to the original question re the Old Jackboot ONE from Redditch.?

  191. 1242
    Anonymous says:

    In light of that damning report on the dearth of social mobility in the UK, the last thing this country needs is to elect more old Etonians. Those with their heads in the sand continue to trumpet the old line that hard work is synonymous with advancement. For the vast majority, however, this is demonstrably not the case.

    This country needs very serious surgery indeed and it is the kind that the current parties cannot and will not provide. Only significant change, which is beyond current party politics, will suffice. Go on, give yourself a treat: try to imagine a society where the hoons in office today are swept away.

    Here’s another damning report about social mobility in this country: http://www2.lse.ac.uk/ERD/pressAndInformationOffice/newsAndEvents/archives/2005/LSE_SuttonTrust_report.aspx

    • 1246
      Georgeous George says:

      Correct.

      What we need is advancement on the Jobs for the Girls principles enshrined in Harriet Harman’s Equality Bill such that we get a more representative society with Labour Luvvies running everything.

    • 1249
      Steve Expat says:

      Simplest solution to problems of “Social Mobility” – bring back the grammar schools.

      They worked for my parents who came from working-class roots and social housing to jobs in the professions.

      Let the non-grammar schools still teach by ability groups, and encourage non-academic people to learn trades rather than aspiring to a life on the dole as so many do now.

      • 1252
        Anonymous says:

        “They worked for my parents who came from working-class roots and social housing to jobs in the professions.

        Let the non-grammar schools still teach by ability groups, and encourage non-academic people to learn trades rather than aspiring to a life on the dole as so many do now.”

        Your “response” indicates that you have neither read nor understand these studies because had you done so you could not have written that idiotic drivel. I suggest you re-consider what you have written AFTER reading the reports.

      • 1253

        they worked weell for me and friends too in the 60’s/70’s, coming from a very poor backgroud indeed and a family of 10 to boot! They enabled me to get on in life and I was given uniform,freeschool meals, travelling etc.

        You forget one thing though This is exactly what Liebour don’t like or want. They want people to stay DEPENDENT on liebour, cause they won’t vote for them if they get on in life. They love to CONTROL people don’t forget.

        Comprehensive education brings education down to the lowest common denominator and is why we never achieve any thing these days and why other countries do. It also encourages laziness, but then the kids don’t know any different do they.

      • 1254
        Norwich North Labour's Waterloo says:

        Exactly. Shirley Williams has much to answer for. The elitist Labour Oligarchy has created a dependent class where once there was a hard working aspirant working class.

        First step is to get rid of Labour. It starts today in Norwich.

      • 1710
        RobC says:

        Spot on – Tragedy is the left hijacked the LEA’s in the 60’s on the mantra of Grammar schools are evil and until they are sorted out reason,common sense and genuine ability for all is a lost cause.

    • 1255

      all these type of reports do is show what you set out to achieve in the first place.

      Imagine setting up an inquiry on a subject and the report finding exactly the opposite to what you really wanted to show. There aint one!

      I do believe dracula set up an inquiry to prove loss of blood in the bloodbank and where it was going. The inquiry proved beyond all doubt that there was no loss of blood to the blood bank.

      • 1292
        P1 says:

        Exactly – every town should have one (at least). It would be the best bit of social engineering a government had ever done, but I’m afraid the Labour elite can’t see it and neither can the OE’s at Tory HQ.

  192. 1251
    Norwich North Labour's Waterloo says:

    It’s a good day for an ar­se spanking.

    Tories to win but where will Labour come? Their incomer candidate Ostrowski won’t even be showing his face.

    • 1256
      CCL says:

      because it is behind a mask!

    • 1269
      not convinced says:

      what’s the betting that they play the ‘ he had swine flu, that’s why he didn’t win’
      card

      • 1306
        Agent 99 says:

        Dosent hold water…I thought they troughed after they got into Parliament or has Labour taken it now to an even higher level?

        4th is my guess.

    • 1272
      barefootcontessa says:

      Is it confirmed that the newlabour candidate has the ‘flu? Or is he just shit scared?

      • 1288
        P1 says:

        He’s probably be very glad that he won’t be winning a seat today only to lose it again at the GE. I expect that he’ll try and get selected for somewhere in a northern urban area after this. There might be a few labour seats, say 100 or so, to squabble over.

  193. 1257
    Hand Shandy says:

    193.Michael Foot is 96 today…
    He first stood for parliament 74 years ago.

  194. 1284
    Elmarco says:

    As this is the site for a good old conspiracy I thought I’d share a truly horrible one that was passed on today – In short; trouble is about to be stirred up within the townships of South Africa that will spread to the Cities – FIFA will have no choice but to cancel the World Cup in South Africa and take up Gordon Brown’s offer for England to host the World Cup.

    It will be a May election just a few weeks before the World cup begins – with, of course, Gordon being the hero.

    Think about it……..

  195. 1287

    Fresh balls please, Guido.

  196. 1297
    Agent 99 says:

    When parliament is closed for the recess and after hitting the Tories constantly with Mr 10% Labour quietly slip out on the Treasury website cuts in public services to come including education (first time in over 20 years and the last time was as a direct result OF A LABOUR GOVERNMENT PREVIOUSLY IN POWER)

    These utter fucking hoons sneaky bastards and Brown is a fucking lying toerag as he said it would not happen even as late as yesterday.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/5889812/Education-spending-to-be-cut-by-100m-despite-Gordon-Browns-pledge.html

    • 1335
      PT Barnum says:

      But those ‘cuts’ are ‘investments’! Our PM told us so. ‘Investments’ in the future of Britain’s economy, young people, and hardworking families. It’s all going to be fine. The sun will shine forever. No one will feel sad anymore. We’re going to sing and be happy and praise the name of our leader for generations to come.

      That report new in from Room 101.

  197. 1298
    Agent 99 says:

    Despite Gordon Brown pledging to safeguard spending on schools and universities, government documents show that the total education budget will fall by £100 million after the next election.

    The disclosure is in statistics that detail the true scale of the Government’s budget reductions for the first time.

    Published without fanfare on the Treasury’s website , they show that, throughout government, spending will be cut next year, in real terms, by 0.7 per cent, or almost £3 billion.

    The Home Office, the Department of Transport and the Ministry of Justice are among 14 of the 23 departments that will see their budgets fall. The deepest cuts will be made to Lord Mandelson’s Business Department (24.6 per cent) and the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (22 per cent), according to the documents.

    However, it is the drop in education spending that will prove most controversial.

    According to the figures, which are adjusted for inflation, total education spending will fall from £85.1 billion in 2009-10 to £85 billion in 2010-11.

  198. 1308
    Steve Expat says:

    Offtopic (and with apologies to the ladies here), but there’s nothing half decent on the TV news today as they’re all banned from talking about Norwich.

    Weathergirl Top Trumps.

    Laura Tobin from the BBC or Lucy Verasamy from Sky?

    • 1322
      Engineer says:

      Not fair. I haven’t got Sky.

    • 1324
      Trough Mixture says:

      Laura by a country mile, though one’s thoughts might well drift to comparisons with Berlusconi…..

      Neither compare to my sweet Jo Wheeler who, although having a couple more miles on the clock, is only just run-in and has the eyes and expressions of a very naughty girl indeed.

      Must be all those sardines.

    • 1344
      Cjamesk says:

      Lucy Verasamy without a doubt.

    • 1414
      barefootcontessa says:

      But you could have been watching the terrible trio – Adonis, gorgon, and mandelson, going for a ride on a train. Surely you would have found that far more exciting?!

      Or the Le Tour time trial in Annecy, with B. Wiggins, Armstrong et al. It was great!!

  199. 1313
    caesars wife says:

    i thought Lord Adonis was top of the range ??

    CW has a done a bit of digging and thinks new rail annoucements dont add up , it will increase cost of rail travel and £1.1bn is not an accurate figure given major works are involved on tunnels and bridges . suggest railtrack make accurate costs per km , also you will have to change trains at bristol to carry onto west country which will still use deisel trains ! and increase there costs as well

    • 1328
      Engineer says:

      First rule of major construction projects – it always takes longer and costs more.

      The change of traction method is not a new one – a similar situation existed on the North Wales coast to Holyhead (a major route to Ireland) when Virgin’s brand new sparkly-powered trains whizzed up from Euston to Crewe, and were then dragged dead by a diesel from Crewe to Holyhead and back. It meant the passengers didn’t have to change trains, bot certainly added some operating problems.

      Electrification has it’s pro’s and con’s, not least the capital cost. Given the economic situation, it would be no surprise if the project was cancelled or deferred until there is a bit more cash in the pot.

      • 1332
        Steve Expat says:

        Is this announcement just another way of commiting the next Tory government to as much “investment” as possible before the GE.

        Project management 101. On time, to spec, to budget – choose no more than two…
        Government project management – choose no more than one.

      • 1696
        caesars wife says:

        work to start immediately it says !!

        just to pick up another point , it said trains are due for renewal some are 20yrs old , fair enough , but they will have to buy new electric trains anyway Doh !

        very odd cant find out how much leccy a virgin pendelino train uses ?? so cant make diesel eqivalent useage ??

        given other budgets may need more priority , seems wreckless to be asking tax payer to pick up tax payer overun costs .

        The ruin has got his priorities wrong i think , this will cost more when its done

    • 1373
      Adrian Prole says:

      This is also being sold to us as being ‘greener’. Err… from where will they get the electricity – France’s nuclear power stations?

  200. 1315
    Haile Selasssie Emperor of Africa says:

    It’s my birthday.
    Happy Birthday me!
    Where’s me prezzies?

    • 1357
      Trough Mixture says:

      The PM will attend an event in Addis Ababa later in the year. It is envisaged that at this event he will be declared Ras Claat of all who survey him and Liar of Heathy Hopia.

      • 1386
        tatHaile Selassie Emperor of Africa says:

        When Gordon Brown visits Addis Ababa we will force him to smoke a big old doobie.
        Get him really stoned out of his brain.
        We will blow his mind with the herb.
        He might not be coming back!

  201. 1320

    The structural and attitude issues are simple, and as folks are coming to understand that and how other influences have an impact, things will calm down and something better will emerge. The government could bang heads and go on a charge but, I figure, it’s actually strong enough to make a case and get folks moving down the right path. So, nothing to worry about.

    Personally, I’d rather see a focus on solutions. Business is too much of a cottage industry, and folks are too caught up in small time wheeling and dealing. Britain needs world class products, more loyalty instead of hiring and firing, and not getting a dose of the jitters when the wagon rolls over a grain of sand. Do that and in 20 years the UK will be a powerhouse.

    • 1331
      Engineer says:

      Charles – stating the bleeding obvious is one thing – you’re good at that, when you’re not totally incomprehensible – but working out the best way to achieve it is another.

      Labour have spent 12 years demonstrating, comprehensively, that they can’t achieve it. So the question now is, who do we give a chance to at the next GE?

    • 1340
      Solutions not Problems says:

      I like focusing on solutions as well. My first three suggestions:
      1) Purge of existing cohort of MPs
      2) General Election
      3) Referendum on EU Lisbon Treaty/Constitution

    • 1383
      Sungei Patani says:

      Even more boring pompous pretentious rubbish.

  202. 1327
    Odds Bodkins says:

    Guido,

    Why not just leave a “Call Back Later – Much Fucking Later” message on your phone voice mail?

    So that you and your long-suffering wife and kids can try and get a couple of weeks away from it all – everything and everyone, yes, even us, reading this…

    Just the once before the next tsunami of shit starts being thrown all over the place for another year.

    Is it me or did I feel the chill air of Xmas swooshing up my back passage the other morning as I blundered through icy rain to the car?

    Probably just me…

  203. 1330
    Sukyspook says:

    Welcome to your not-so-distant future:

    p1 – Adrian Salbuchi: How world gov will come about:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eePBvYX26zc

    p2

  204. 1333
    Thats News says:

    Read the book Zen There Was Murder.

    Very good.

    • 1354
      Trough Mixture says:

      Excellent confessional read – Charles E. Hardwidge: Faithful Graphics – Tao I did it.

  205. 1334
    Troll-trapper says:

    If Rentokil has an internet division its services are needed here.

  206. 1336
    It's all Balls says:

    Defence Secretary Bob Ainsworth says he is “busting a gut” to get more helicopters out to Afghanistan.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8165263.stm

    His boss reckons they have enough, so why is he wasting his time on this?

    I know for a fact there is a shortage of paperclips in the MOD’s HQs. Get a grip Ainsworth

    • 1353
      Master Baiter says:

      The US military in Iraq is now largely confined to barracks, they have enough equipment to carry out that mission.
      The UK military near Basra was confined to barracks for the last several months it was in Iraq, it had enough equipment to fulfill that mission.
      The UK military in Afghanistan has a modest mission in one of the least populated regions of Afghanistan. It has enough equipment for that mission. The UK’s allies in NATO, most notably the US intend to expand the mission in Helmand and have joined UK forces there to do so. If the UK mission is expanded, more equipment is required. As more equipment is required more equipment is being sent.
      If the UK military is being tasked to carry out a mission beyond its capability its mission should be curtailed until its capability is increased to the requirements of the mission.
      Comprende?

      • 1358

        dont waste your time writing bollocks. why would any one believe a liebour troll like you? Every one knows that any one in liebour just lies.

        what i dont understand are you a very good fisherman or just a great big wanker?

        the latter seems to suit you more.
        have a nice day now honky tonk

        • 1385
          Master Baiter says:

          Please feel free to waste time.
          If only to supply a caricature of a frothing, bile soaked, right wing invertebarate, filled with false bravado and little, literally, anything else. Which has been achieved comprehensively.

        • 1405
          mariella frostrup says:

          Bad boy, dirty boy, off to your bed.

      • 1360
        Steve Expat says:

        MB, 19 brave men have died this month alone in Helmand, 158 I believe now in total.

        A large number of them have been killed by roadside bombs in remote areas, placed there by the enemy armies. If we had used either properly armoured land vehicles or airbourne transport a large number of these casualties could have been avoided.

        If the government wish to “do” war, they should either do it properly or not at all – to send the brave into battle without sufficient resources is not fair on those whom are sent on our behalf.

        • 1376
          Master Baiter says:

          SE
          You have it the wrong way around.
          There is no reason to believe that with different equipment more or fewer troops would have been killed in the latest operation known apparently as ‘Pathers Claw’. It is simply an assertion. One reason is that if they had different equipment they would carry out different operations. Basically the UK military should not be tasked with operations they are not equipped for, it is that simple.
          The UK has been in Helmand since 2006. British bases were established in the towns of Sangin, Lashkar Gah and Gereshk. There was heavy local resistance. In Autumn 2006, the UK military started to reach “cessation of hostilities” agreements with local Taliban forces after which the UK forces withdrew. Since then there have been limited active operations culminating in the present Panthers Claw. If the operation is beyond the present UK military capabilities they should do what they did before, withdraw and reequip. It doesn’t sound sexy but there you are.
          Further south in Helmand the US Marines have sustained a significant number fatal casualties in the face of much lighter resistance and with far greater numbers of lift helicopters. In active combat troops die.

        • 1391
          tat says:

          I’ll tell you what wanker, let us send you to Afhganistan with insuffient helicopter support and see how long you last eh?
          I’d give you five minutes you spineless piece of shit.
          now fuck off dog.
          gordon brown sent good men on an offensive with insufficient air support.
          men died because of brown’s bad decision. an offensive could have waited until helicopters were available next year.
          he chose not to do that because there is an election looming and he hoped it would help his popularity.
          wrong.
          gordon brown is the most hated man in England and you run a close second.
          leave this place masterbaiter, you are not welcome here.
          you betray our soldiers with your lies.

        • 1392
          Sungei Patani says:

          MB

          Quite a sensible and thoughtful post – what has come over you? Regretfully, I am unable to disagree with your last sentence.

          I think though the gist of your post and earlier ones is that the British troops in Helmand have been adequately equipped for the task since they arrived. You may take this as an assertion, but the officers responsible for the troops there will tell you it is a fact. – British soldiers lives have been lost over the past three years due to an inadequate number of helicopters.

          It was Gordon Brown – who when Chancellor – cut the MOD’s budget for helicopters and our soldiers and their families are now paying the price.

          He probably spent the money instead on Lesbian and Gay outreach workers, he certainly didn’t give it back to the taxpayer.

        • 1404
          Master Baiter says:

          Fake tat will rub off with time.
          Arf, arf, arf, come here little puppy.
          Bang

        • 1443
          Cjamesk says:

          Steve true,

          Myself and other colleagues had to spend roughly £1000 on kit as what we were provided was poor to say the least, even Hydration tablets were hard to come by let alone the option of “Front” or “Rear” plates only when we first went into Iraq.

          “If the operation is beyond the present UK military capabilities they should do what they did before, withdraw and re-equip. It doesn’t sound sexy but there you are.”- ( How do you suggest this by road or air?!? )

          This is exactly what we were doing previously and without holding the ground the Insurgents bought their time and re-entered the territory / town. As for re-equip I suggest you speak to the Paras who gallantly held Sangin about re-equipping and yes Helicopter shortages played a part in this also.

          Don`t believe the spin all the time MB.

        • 1783
          Basket Case says:

          TaT..well said.

          Baiter…baiting might be your thing,and you may think you are funny,but when you start about needless loss of life,you sink into the depths of depravity.
          Of course in combat there are casualties..but people here are talking about avoidable loss of life.
          Your self belief in your own cleverness is a pathetic and very dangerous thing.
          Shut up and stay away until you have passed puberty.

      • 1400
        So17 says:

        Meanwhile back in the real world why are our troops there?
        Bollocks to 9/11 New Labour grandstanding with the blood of our working class lads.

      • 1736
        Pontius The Pilot says:

        OK MB, fair enough, quite a thoughtful series of posts…. (you sure you’re the real MB?)

        Most of it accurate as well (which also makes me think MB has been spoofed, but thats by the by)… but one set of comments intrigues me… those regarding Basra and the US and thier having enough equipment is, from my own experience (supporting those ops and knowing people out there supporting operations) largely true although things like Snatch Land Rovers and personal body armour notwithstanding. Those are known issues that have had the arses kicked out of them.

        But I am genuinely intrigued by the “The UK military in Afghanistan has a modest mission in one of the least populated regions of Afghanistan. It has enough equipment for that mission”.

        Now, obviously “equipment” is quite a broad statement and it has been acknowledged that commanders on the ground will always want more. Fair enough. But what do you base your “It has enough equipment for that mission” on? Knowledge of what the mission is? Knowledge of roughly what the Order Of Battle is for the likes of Task Force Helmand, etc?

        Are you effectively saying that the mission is (or indeed, was?) clear enough, but it is being prosecuted in the wrong way and mission creep is blurring the lines? Or that maybe the military solution is but part of it and the rest is the political solution that still needs to be addressed?

        None of my usual stone throwing here, I’m genuinely interested. I spent 4 years directly supporting these guys in both locations, so I’ve genuinely got a notion of what is going on out there and some of the issues they’re facing both as a UK Expeditionary Force and as part of ISAF.

        • 1767
          Master Baiter says:

          PTP
          It’s just a considered opinion.
          Also logically if the command are carrying out missions for which they don’t have enough equipment, they should stop the mission.
          Helmand was virtually untouched by NATO for five years, so sitting in the sand at Camp Bastion for now and delivering sweets to children and medicines to the sick would help achieve something. Then when the appropriate resources are made available for further missions, carry them out.
          The US threw everything they could at Vietnam and lost.
          Equipment isn’t everything.
          The military command makes decisions on the ground.
          For example if they have 8 lift helicopters, the operations must necessarily be restricted to those for which 8 lift helicopters are sufficient.
          The problem then becomes what progress or success can be derived from operations of that type.
          Progress in Afghanistan is limited as much on the cultural, political and economic front. But culture, politics and economics don’t go bang, bang, bang. Also they don’t involve quite as many juicy contracts compared to buying equipment.

        • 1785
          tat says:

          piss off you wanker.

    • 1402
      P1 says:

      Brown’s and MB’s mistakes are compounded by their belief in and reliance on spin to run an argument. Everyone now realises that when Brown says something apparently definitive like “we’ve increased helicopter numbers by 60%” he is concealing a number of other important facts that work against his argument, vis. 1) He is probably referring to a low absolute number of helicopters to start with (eg from 5 up to 8, or from 10 to 16 etc) 2) he is probabaly disguising the type of helicopter (troop carrying Chinook/Merlin/Puma or attack Apache, or utility Gazelle) 3) he is concealing exactly where they are based (at Bastion or in Kabul) 4) He is concealing whether they are operational yet or not 5) He is concealing whether they are RAF, Army or RN helicopters or chartered civilian helicopters (such as the Moldovan ones). So, Mr Brown stop spinning the useless and misleading tractor stats, and just do something uesful. We just don’t believe a word you say, Mr Brown and this makes discussion with you an absolutely pointless exercise.

      • 1406
        Master Baiter says:

        There are many schools of thought about this topic, not only the Jingoistic slant favoured by the Daily Mail mentality.
        The Daily Mail type Jingoism is the least plausible and blinkered but highly emotional, which is why it is propounded by dimwits.
        The objective in Afghanistan is not to blow the place to kingdom come.
        The objective is to beat the insurgency and so hopefully allow for stability and with it the rule of law.
        The insurgency can only be beaten by winning the battle for hearts and minds.
        That battle requires restraint.

        • 1408
          P1 says:

          The point is not one specifcially on helicopter numbers, but simply that Brown cannot be trusted to talk staright on any subject- we know he’s fudging and spinning when his lips move, so how is anyone listening supposed to be persuaded by anything he says?

          Your views on Afghanistan might have some merit (but waiting for the rule of law in a corrupt and feudal state might take a tad longer than you would think) – however, I believe that you’ll find the main problem is that the chaps shooting back on the other side don’t necessarily want to act with “restraint” and haven’t read G Brown’s policy documents. They will do as they wish, not how we would like. Tricky one that.

        • 1412
          Master Baiter says:

          The UK military has a history of success in counter insurgency operations and winning the hearts and minds battle partly by exercising restraint.
          The US military has a history of failure in counter insurgency operations, partly from losing the hearts and minds battle though a reluctance or inability to exercise restraint.
          India is occupying Kashmir with 700,000 troops.
          Bang, bang, bang

        • 1438

          hello charles luvvie , how are we today?

        • 1446
          Cjamesk says:

          MB winning hearts and minds is one thing but when ones “ideology” is based on the total destruction of the west then negotiation is incredibly hard to say the least.

          The only way to stop the Afghan problem is to put pressure on Pakistan to fulfil it`s obligation and release more troops into the “tribal” areas` and to stop being fixated with India as the insurgency poses them a greater threat than India.

          Education is key but we can`t have an input with that unless as stated above the Pakistanis` take the threat more seriously.

  207. 1362
    Hand Shandy says:

    Anyone out there for a spot of cottaging??

  208. 1369

    There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism — by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide

  209. 1372
    sid dayshus says:

    Didn’t that cnut Broon appear in Mexico some months ago on on his save the world tour? Didn’t swine flu appear in Porridge Land first in these sacred isles? Not a fucking coincidence I think

  210. 1378
    Observer says:

    I can’t seem to get through to the government’s new swine flu advice website. It appears they’ve not estimated the required bandwidth correctly. Can’t they get anything right?

  211. 1393

    National Pandemic Flu website – crashed in three minutes flat. What a shower of amatuers. Built in classic asp so far as I can judge, so only a decade out of date, even the holding page is hogging an https connection – why?

    This government and everything it touches is utterly useless. They are an embarassment to the nation, a shambling failure. Tossers; every last man jack of them.

    I wonder who built it?

    • 1743
      Pontius The Pilot says:

      Probably EDS. They’ve managed to fuck up virtually every aspect of government computing in one way or another…

  212. 1398
    Dual Citizen says:

    Any Notts County fans out there?

    You will be relegated this year!

    Here’s why –

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8163357.stm

    Brown hails Sven’s return to UK

    Gordon Brown appears keen to swap management tips with ex-England boss Sven-Goran Eriksson, who has made a surprise return to English football.

    Quizzed about Eriksson’s latest job – at lowly Notts County – Mr Brown said it showed how important UK football is.

    “People are prepared to take on even the most difficult jobs outside the Premier League,” said Mr Brown.

    “Maybe he could invite me to a Notts County match and we could talk about it,” added the PM.

  213. 1410
    nell says:

    Immigrants who can barely speak english are being recruited to man the Swine Fever Helpline.

    Staff at one of the centre’s has laid bare the chaos behind the preparations and said that some of those recruited for £6 per hour, spoke very poor english and could barely be understood. None had a medical background and all were given just 5 hours training before being put on the phones.

    This government’s a joke – except they aren’t funny.

    • 1416
      barefootcontessa says:

      6 hours training doesn’t sound a lot, but that’s probably all the government can afford.

      • 1440
        nell says:

        Immaterial at the moment about the staff as no-one can contact them. The system crashed for the first time 8 minutes after launch and has struggled to cope since.

        A test run of the system just before launch referred a potential patient to the Wormwood Scrubs pharmacy, for medication, which only inmates can access.

        “A spokesman said “There will, of course, be glitches in the system”

        • 1464
          Engineer says:

          “Carry On, Matron” starring Sid James as Gorgon Brown, and Kenneth Williams as Lord Mandelslime.

        • 1466
          nell says:

          1425 Eng

          +++smile+++

        • 1533
          barefootcontessa says:

          Did you receive message re ‘Sultans of Swing’?………radio 4 next ?Monday.Thought I should do the decent thing, and inform you. (to engineer)

        • 1553
          Engineer says:

          3-45pm – Mark Knopfler? Heard a trailer on Radio 4 couple of days ago – but thanks, barefoot!

        • 1601
          Paul Franklin says:

          Did some guy mention Dire Straits?

    • 1418
      Master Baiter says:

      The poor English speakers may well be foreign language speakers and there to help non native English speakers who call the service by speaking to them in their own language.
      People should use the online method.
      The phone service aimed at helping people with no internet connection.
      If anyone is flapping around about the flu or too stupid to get hold of Tamiflu on line or on the phone, they can always burden their doctor who will be delighted to waste time on them, no doubt.

    • 1427

      Folks on the internet tend to mouth off about things they don’t know about, and tend to be more rude than they might, but it’s not without its personal and social consequences. And some of those consequences can bite you in the ass if they’re not doing so already.

      • 1429

        so why are you mouthing off then just shut up like you tell other people to mb and ch
        typical liebour bullies and cheap crust peasants, just get back in the sewer where you belong. take your leader with you.

      • 1744
        Pontius The Pilot says:

        Aint that the truth Charlie; You’re living proof of it, old son!!!

    • 1444
      Engineer says:

      The BBC report that the swine flu website is struggling to cope (others, above, report that it isn’t coping at all) because it is receiving about 10 million hits per hour (a figure that is a little hard to believe – maybe some journalistic licence).

      If a government stokes up a false panic, can it be surprised if the more gullible elements in society fall for it and – er – panic?

      Those who may have genuine concern (Guido with little Miss Fawkes a couple of weeks ago, for example) get lost in the panic of the worried well.

      Well done, government. Not.

      • 1458
        nell says:

        A no.10 spin doctor was heard to say a couple of weeks ago, as gordon struggled with one of his many self made crises, that ” gordon wasn’t getting as much benefit as they had hoped from the swine flu epidemic.”

        He meant that they had hoped the media would stoke the swine flu crisis and take the heat away from gordon over afghanistan etc.

        No doubt the no.10 spindoctors (how many are there? – I forget now 26 or 32) are still doing their bit, along with the dour and vaguely unnerving Liam Donaldson, to try and push the press in that direction.

        So they fuel panic and then launch a rubbish phone and website that can’t cope with the traffic. Classic Labour.

        • 1462
          Engineer says:

          Nell – your first paragraph says all we need to know about government communications! What a shower of….

        • 1536
          barefootcontessa says:

          The gorgon’s always first class in an emergency. He always comes in to his own, has such a masterful way, you know.

      • 1459
        Steve Expat says:

        Eng, the number of “hits” goes up every time someone hits the refresh button or loads another page on the site.

        I could probably generate several hundred “hits” in a few minutes by trying to get on a site which is busy, just by hitting the refresh button every couple of seconds…

        The number of unique visitors is the number that would be useful, but I’d say the admins have better things to be doing right now than compiling reports!!

        • 1461
          Engineer says:

          Thanks for the clarification, Steve; I’d assumed that “hits” meant people trying to access the website – which just shows the limits of my knowledge of modern communications.

          The main criticism, that a government information system (meant to reassure and assist the general population) is grossly inadequate – stands.

        • 1581
          Steve Expat says:

          Govt IT systems really suck – given that there was a week’s notice given about setting up this site they had no excuse.

          The design of the site would have been done several weeks ago as per the contingency planning, all they had to do this week was get the hosting and scaling sorted out.

          They should have expected the surge on day 1 and been prepared for it, speak to people like the BBC who handle the largest volume website in the country for example.

          On 7/7 the BBC dropped from its site all video not related to the breaking story, and had contracts with internet service providers to “cache” local copies with the ISPs rather than serve all the content themselves. This was on a day when a big story broke, not on something that had been planned well in advance.

          Shocked but not surprised. Nothing this government does surprises me any more.
          Disclaimer: I am an IT Manager, I do this sort of thing for a living…

        • 1747
          Pontius The Pilot says:

          1541#

          Steve, considering how much warning they’ve had over the years with SARS, H5N1, etc and considering that there are er… elements of government who have had contingency plans as to how to deal with a pandemic for a few years now, there is absolutely no reason that this site couldnt have been built ages ago. Should just purely have been a matter of updating the content and setting it live.

          Wasnt this supposed to be up and running in April?

  214. 1423

    I understand enough of the economics and how people may feel about issues to “get it”, and looking beyond the “authorities” and “high attention earners” I’m pretty sure a lot of other folks “get it” as well, so Alistair Darling has much, much less to fear or worry about than he thinks.

    And it’s by getting on with it and reaching out to regular folks as he so unwillingly and uncomfortably did that will help people develop an interest in generating success and shrugging off difficulty. If Alistair Darling can focus on that and stay happy, I reckon, everyone’s a winner.

    • 1430

      you wont be tonight
      tee hee your gonna get stuffed

      east german stasi police = liebour

    • 1432
      Engineer says:

      Translating – Charles reckons the UK has no significant economic problems.

      I wonder what planet Charles is on today?

      • 1435

        I might be on your anus?

        • 1455
          Engineer says:

          Wiped off and flushed down the pan. You’re half way to the sewage treatment plant as we speak; though you may be lodged a bend somewhere.

      • 1442
        nell says:

        It’s a pity that it’s this planet.

        I suspect the troll(s) have a different gameplan tonight. No doubt they have been plotting in the front room at no.10 over beer and pizza.

        • 1447
          PT Barnum says:

          Nah, chardonnay and blinis.

        • 1452
          Engineer says:

          What a waste of decent, honest, beer!

          The trolls seem to be trying very hard at the moment, and given that most people have slowed down for the holiday season, one wonders what they expect to achieve. They don’t seem to deter the genuine posters, and even add a little to the sport of the whole exercise. That said, the personal slurs are rather unnecessary, though they do reveal more the character of those making the slurs than those on the receiving end.

          Above all, it reveals the desperation of a failed party and a failed government.

        • 1457
          ANAGRAM TIME! says:

          Charles E. Hardwidge, Labour puppet = Throw up cheap dried-up greaseball

        • 1482
          PT Barnum says:

          Master Baiter = Rabies at term

        • 1505
          Engineer says:

          Master Baiter = Basra Termite

        • 1524

          David Cameron’s Tories = Mad derision overacts

        • 1541
          PT Barnum says:

          David Cameron’s Tories = a misconstrued avoider

    • 1448

      The positive investment and fair wage approach of the Labour government is the way forward and what people are demanding. People are disappointed and upset but solutions are emerging to issues and I think that’s something worth noting. Remember, Labour are Taoist in their approach and history is ultimately on their side.

      • 1460
        Engineer says:

        You’ve reverted to incomprehensible again, Charles.

      • 1465
        nell says:

        Taoism has an interesting view of life and death – 2 aspects of reality .

        A transformation from a being to a non-being.

        That, of course, is wahat gordon is fighting against in his political life. He doesn’t want to become a political non-being. But he will.

      • 1470

        if it wasnt for people like yourself and mb, HOGGING THINGS ALL THE TIME, LIKE THIS BLOG AND EDUCATION, and other professions, the poor middle classes would do a lot better, just ask alan milburn

  215. 1449
    Sukyspook says:

    Spam for tea tonight then….except for Guido who’ll be eating sand with his Spam.

    Yummy!!

  216. 1451
    ANAGRAM TIME! says:

    Charles E. Hardwidge, Taoist troll = Wholehearted gorilla distracts

  217. 1471
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    Thick as Thieves,I am begging you please be offensive,kick someone in the bollox ,male or female,this thread is so fucking tedious I am good minded to go back to ToeNails for a bit of excitement.

    Oh Fuck it,come on softwidget,bore us sensless,this is so pointless the advertisers will want their money back.

    Guido you are bleeding to death.

    • 1477
      nell says:

      Nope – don’t think he’s bleeding to death – I think he’s relaxing on a sunny french patio watching the sun go down with a decent glass of wine. Kids hopefully have gone to sleep.

      As for here – I guess we’ve got overloaded with posts so it’s now working a bit slow.

      The ‘trolls’, except tat who is probably taking an early evening nap as the more intelligent troll does, are busy elsewhere desperately trying to get the labour vote out in norwich north before the polls close.

      In Westminster bob is ‘ busting a gut’ doing nothing very much and ben whatsisname of the Health Department is trying to spin that the crash of the Swine Flu Helpline was a Risk Assessment exercise.

      • 1479

        The whole key to Zen Buddhism isn’t just taking a holiday but being able to take a holiday from ourselves. Gloom and doom is fine to a point but somewhere along the line you’ve got to go for it. After all, it’s the only way anything gets done, which is why we need a Labour government. Jeez, wake up.

        • 1484
          Engineer says:

          So that’s it – even as we type, Gorgon and Mandy are sitting cross-legged facing each other on the Cabinet Room table with their eyes closed chanting “Ommmmm… Ommmmm…” Meanwhile, Gus O’Donnell is on the ‘phone to the MOD saying “Helicopters for Helmand? You’ll be lucky – can’t even get them to decide on tea or coffee…”

        • 1489

          wake up m8, didnt you know you’ve had a liebour government for 12 years?
          can understand how desparate you are but try some red bull or something it might wake you up.

  218. 1472
    nell says:

    Right! gordon yesterday said our less than 10 working helicopters in Afghanistan are enough to do the job.

    (He also said they’d been increased by 60% aqt the same time that troopp numbers had been doubled but that’s another issue)

    Today bobnotuptothejobainsworth says he’s ‘busting a gut’(!!!!) to get more helicopters out to our lads. Which one of them is lying or more likely they both are.

    He talks about those 8 chinooks – you now the one’s that have been grounded since 2001 (2001!!!) – when will they send them out to Afghanistan?? – No time soon.

    And where are the others he is ‘busting a gut’ to get out there? He doesn’t specify – and he doesn’t give numbers and he doesn’t give a timescale – so don’t expect any more helicopters anytime soon.

    Thank god this lot weren’t in charge when we went into WW2 and needed Spitfires built in a hurry and pilots trained fast.

    • 1481

      thats because liebour are;-

      –noun
      1. a person who betrays another, a cause, or any trust.
      2. a person who commits treason by betraying his or her country.

      In law, treason is the crime that covers some of the more serious acts of disloyalty to one’s sovereign or nation.

    • 1720
      Private Bob's Gut Condition Report says:

      Hello. Private Bob here, the latest in a long line of outstanding Labour Offense Secretaries, with today’s battlefield report about the condition of my guts.

      I am pleased to report that I have taken advantage of one of Labour’s fantastic training schemes and have “Trained To Gain” in the subject of helicopter maintenance and refurbishment. My previous career as a sheet metal worker was of great help with my new responsibilities as helicopter person in chief.

      I am now working full tilt with my angle grinder and oxy-acetylene torch to get the ‘copters ready to go to the theatre. And, despite my heroic efforts (and I use that word in all modesty) my gut is holding up quite well.

      The government will shortly be setting up a special phone line and website for those seeking information about the state of my gut, and details of this will appear in the media and favoured newspapers in due course.

  219. 1476

    People want freedom and to go their own way. If they have too much you get atomisation. If you get too little you get rigidity. People point fingers at Labour tearing itself apart, Tory greed, and Liberal dithering but these people are you.

    At one extreme you have leadership and everyone pulling in the same direction. In a more individualistic setting you have a collective decision that arises. People think they’re different but really they’re just different perspectives on the same thing.

    Speaking as a Zen Buddhist and the inventor of graphics fidelity, this this is a solved problem. There’s plenty of books and comment on leadership and organisations. It’s not a mystery. Mostly, the problem is people trying to force things or demand too much. This makes it an ego issue.

    Labour get this. The Tories don’t.

  220. 1486
    James. says:

    Any one else heard the conspiracy re the World Cup?

    Trouble is about to be stirred up in South Africa to the extent that FIFA will pull it and gratefully accept the joint FA & Gordon Brown offer for England to host it!

    The Election, of course, will be just a few short weeks before the games begin with Gordon being the hero…………….

    • 1499
      Engineer says:

      If this is a supposed wheeze being cooked up by Gorgon and his minions in the bunker, we all know exactly what will happen to it.

      Somehow, one suspects that South Africa need not worry on that score….

    • 1511
      tired and jaded says:

      The players are safe and the TV crews are safe. Not too sure about the idiots who feel the need to be there in person.

  221. 1498
    Anonymous says:

    I’ve got a Cock !

  222. 1501
    nell says:

    Gordon today held his Cabinet Meeting in Cardiff! The first ever in wales !Wasn’t he proud – just like little johnny when he brings home his first picture from reception class.

    And How Much did this cabinet meeting cost us? I hesitate to ask whether it achieved anything.

    Then he held a q and a session with voter friendly people to talk about his ‘regular’ chats with the man from omaha beach and how he has adopted the president’s treadmill exercise regime to try and match barack’s high fitness levels.

    +++laugh+++sorry!+++laugh+++

    • 1515
      tired and jaded says:

      What Brown fails to realise is that every time he appears on TV he turns off another 10,000 voters. He’s surrounded by sycophants who are too scared to tell him. It doesn’t matter how tame the questions are, he’s a tosser and everyone can see it.

    • 1519
      Engineer says:

      So that’s why negative stories about the Great Western mainline have been circulating – Gorgon went to Wales…

    • 1576
      Question master says:

      Did the cabinet have to speak in welsh?

    • 1587
      Steve Expat says:

      Surely if Gordon had any sense, he would have held the meeting in Norwich??

      Or do they really not care about a by-election fuckup of the highest order??

      • 1600
        nell says:

        They know they’ve lost it before the vote is taken!!

        Although tonight there is some suggestion that the fringe parties are going to make the most gains.

        Interesting!!

        I hope , at the very least, that labour finishes 4th!!

        • 1608
          Steve Expat says:

          Looks very close for 2nd through to 4th between Lab, Lib and Green.

          Young Chloe Smith seems to have won rather well. Two less majority by tomorrow…

    • 1610
      freddie flintoff says:

      thats wales fucked lad

    • 1707
      Trough Mixture says:

      He thinks he’s Jack Harkness. Toenails is said to be ‘extremely excited’.

  223. 1503
    Anonymous says:

    I’ve got a Cock !

    • 1514
      Engineer says:

      Does he crow at Dawn, and is Dawn annoyed at having her sleep disturbed?

      • 1557
        Adrian Prole says:

        It’s a new Italian dish – Cock Primarolo. The three established rules of etiquette whilst at table are:

        1. Don’t spout rubbish.
        2. Don’t talk with your mouth full.
        3. Dont talk cock with an annoying, received accent.

        (4. I’ll leave that to your imagination.)

  224. 1508
    ROY CASTLE says:

    Moderation ,Moderation, Moderation
    Thats what you need ,
    If you wanna be the best ,
    If you wanna beat the rest ,
    Moderation’s what you need !

  225. 1513
    HARRIET HALFMAN says:

    Who’s on Question Tme Tonight ?

    • 1543
      barefootcontessa says:

      Probably the usual lot of truth denying tribal politicians and a couple of eccentrics, and their ever faithful chairman who will be predictably boring and stuffy. Why do we expect more ?

    • 1564
      Adrian Prole says:

      Hopefully, not a crossing-dressing arty-farty type, or a pissed up/stoned wannabe so-called pop singer who lives in France. ‘Course, we’ll still have Dimblebumble.

      The program has become a joke.

    • 1588
      Steve Expat says:

      “Gorgeous” George Galloway and Geoff Cυnt among the policicos. Clive James could be the interesting one.

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/question_time/default.stm

      • 1594
        grobdj says:

        Clive James interesting? Be interesting to see him function without an autocue

      • 1619
        DEAF HOON ON Q/T says:

        Old Clive DONT Look WELL Poor lad !

      • 1774
        barefootcontessa says:

        The programme lived up to our worst fears. Dimbleby wearing another bright silk tie (must have a girlfriend giving him ties with girlie themes like that) – this week butterflies flying in a bright strawberry pink sky. His shirt was dazzling white and so immaculate it made your eyes hurt. Clive James was morose throughout, obtuse and very annoying. Odds on he’d die before the end of the programme? Shirley Williams wore the ethnic look, looked pretty cheesed off with the whole thing, and spouted her usual nonsense about education. The gorgeous one was replete in matching grey silk tie and grey suit. Looked his usual arrogant self, but growled out a few wise words about Afghanistan (I thought). The baroness was sparky and intelligent in a school girl shirt with reveres and a v necked jumper. Last and very much least, we have the hoon of hoons. He danced around the questions, got rather red at the gills when the expenses subject was brought up, but proved that if you’re able to lie like a pro, and never answer the question you’ll survive as a trained political lawyer. To complete the fashion line up, he wore the usual boring grey suit and conservative tie.

  226. 1521
    Blackburn Raver says:

    What a thicko that Bob sounds with his “elicopters”.I bet he’s got no second job.Who the fuck would employ him in the private sector?

    • 1529
      nell says:

      Well no-one involved in helicopter production anyway – because he’s a proven failure at that!

    • 1546
      barefootcontessa says:

      He could earn big money going to parties as a Hitler look alike couldn’t he?

  227. 1523
    Anonymous says:

    Hot News: JULIE KIRKBRIDE IS COMING BACK – with Cameron`s backing!

    As previously predicted on Guido by The Third Roundel:

    1. announced by Andrew MacKay at Sir Tim Bell`s summer drinks party.

    2. The Dent family arranging pro-Julie petition to Cameron.

    3. Arrogant Kirkbride buys clothes in exclusive Barnt Green shop
    – joking (?) that they are on expenses.

    4. Arrogant Kirkbride controls her Association through Dent family.

    5. Dent family totally dependent on taxpayer money via Kirkbride expenses

    6. Chairman Alan Dent set to defy Cameron if necessary.

    7. Tory HQ should place Association under special measures, demanded.

    8. political chaos in Bromsgrove set to disrupt Tory general election campaign.

    9. Dent family will be ruined if Kirkbride goes – no more taxpayer money.

    KIRKBRIDE IS ON THE FIDDLE AGAIN, THIS TIME WITH HER RIGGING OF THE BROMSGROVE TORY ASSOCIATION.

    Tip Off to interested parties – there is a BIG story here with proper research.

  228. 1526
    Anonymous says:

    Kirkbride has acted now because of low summer media coverage.
    What a cunning bitch!

    • 1537
      nell says:

      The tory troughing lass who’s not standing next time around. She’s of very little interest now. Come along trolls you can do better than that – or maybe not.

    • 1538
      Engineer says:

      Silly season?

      • 1545
        nell says:

        Yes – if you look at what’s beginning to happen here and at the bottom of the blog – we are coming under a sustained attack – different to last night’s – they’ve changed tactics.

        I am sorry but I do think damian, charliew and tomw are the people conducting it, albeit armslength, in an attempt to spoil guido’s site.

        It says much that labour think they need to attack us on here.

        Guido I hope you are watching.

        • 1614
          thick as thieves says:

          nell and engineer: relax.
          we are experiencing some turbulence caused by new labour troll spoilers.
          that is what new labour does, it spoils things.
          but fear not: the great thick as thieves is always happily grateful when Guido sends more trolls in. I don’t really care whether they are lib lab con or bn p.
          there is something beautiful about the sound that is made when you crack a troll’s skull open.
          and the damage I do to the trolls brains is there for all to see.
          hitting that sweet spot is what it is all about.
          VOTE INDEPENDENT OR HAVE YOUR SKULL CAVED IN BY TAT INNIT!

        • 1626
          Trotsky says:

          Bad boy, dirty boy, get to your bed!

  229. 1528
    Anonymous says:

    David Cameron has lost the plot if he thinks this will not drag his general election campaign down.

  230. 1530
    BOB'S ANUSWIFFS says:

    Theres enough Smellychoppers in Afghanistan

  231. 1534
    Anonymous says:

    ALL COMMENT ON JULIE KIRKBRIDE IS NOW CENSORED
    By Order – A MacKay, D Cameron.

  232. 1539
    nell says:

    1488. 1490. 1494. This then is the new trolls plan of attack – is it??.

    Pathetic. Waste of beer and pizza.

    You should return to trying to win the labour vote in Norwich North – you have a much greater chance of success there.

    • 1550
      Engineer says:

      Actually, Nell, the Kirkbride one is of passing interest. Apparently, the Chairman of her constituency association has refused to rule out asking her to stand again.

      May just be a silly season storm in a teacup, but if she does stand, it will be interesting to watch the reaction of her constituents. I’m sure a lot of them would be dischuffed.

      In the grand scheme of things it doesn’t amount to much; one suspects that the Conservative majority at the next GE will be such that an independent winning here and there will make little difference.

      • 1571
        nell says:

        Eng – hasn’t she said already that she won’t be standing?

        There’s been so many of these troughing mp’s I can’t remember what her last stance was.

        If she is seriously is thinking about standing again she is completely mad – the national press will crucify her at the GE.

        I guess we need another of those ‘celebrities’ to say they will stand against her in order to ensure that she does the decent thing.

        • 1593
          Steve Expat says:

          nell, she’s suggested today that she might change her mind about not standing again, and apparantly her constituency chair would back her.

          I can’t image the general population would though, Dave needs to have a polite word in the ear of the constituency chairman – she’s a troughing Hoon who deserves to be kicked out if she’s stupid enough to stand again.

    • 1591
      GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

      YOU ARE SOOOOOOO WRONG AGAIN ONLY 1490 IS ME and the last people on this earth i would vote for are the troop murdering scum of the Lie-Bore party I also can’t stand that jonty’s mate cretin who spent most of last night attacking you also wrong on speedo shorts (or Licra Boy ) as he likes to be known. Now and again some people try to inject a bit of humour in to this site when the political shite becomes a bit repetitive. Sorry if your sense of humour was removed at birth but sometimes you have to laugh or you will go fucking mad, especially with this Mc mental bastard in charge . Words Alone will not get rid of this scum sucking pond life of a government !

  233. 1542
    Plato says:

    Looks like the numbers are screwed again.

    I tripped across this earlier this evening on YouTube – Gordon as Braveheart – rather fun

  234. 1560
    nell says:

    jock styrup july 23 2009 9.10pm

    The language you use is identical to jonty’s marmalade and spido skirts – we are not fooled. Interesting change of tactics though.

    Since it seems to have escaped your rather limited intelligence – this is a political blog. As in a discussion of politics?!!

    You say wou were trying to change subjects by talking about sex toys – I don’t think any of the regular posters on here want to hear gordon’s view about such things.

    Suggest you find a different blog site – you could have tried that redrag thing damian and charlie were trying to launch- it would have been very suitable for a discussion of sex toys. Oh remember now that was a figment of everyone’s imagination.

    • 1573
      JOCK STRRYUP says:

      YOU ARE SOOOOOO WRONG !

      • 1586
        nell says:

        I am wrong . Really?!!

        How??

        As in “We on here are not fooled by you?” or

        “W on here don’t want to hear gordon’s views about sex toys? or

        “charlie and damian’s redrag site was not a more suitable place for the sextoys discussion you tried to launch on here?”

        Idiots!!! You are just trying to discredit this site and the people who post on it – your limited intelligence is derisory.

        Please take you one brain cell, located in your little toe and close the door QUIETLY on your way out!!!

        • 1595
          HARRIET HALFMAN says:

          Admit it you were wrong !

        • 1609
          GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

          NELL Check out all comments by ME ! last Night if you dont think your wrong !
          Also Correcting Mr Muppet Which is also me
          To save time do it on edit

        • 1616
          nell says:

          How about posting under one monicker. Always, so we all know where you’re coming from. Too ashamed to do that are you??!!

          Or is is that you are trying to a) divide and rule , or b) confuse, or c) just spoil?

          Which is it?
          Truth is – none of them work. Waste of effort!!

          Get the message?

        • 1627
          Anonymous says:

          Why not have a look at Ishmael?

        • 1643
          CORPORAL PUNISHMENT says:

          Give it a rest sister ! one thing GUIDO says about HIS blog is that He likes the way people go OFF TOPIC , then carry on Which he feels puts this site above ALL others.Look at the monday cartoon only at most 5 comments relate to the crap cartoon everything else is off topic This blog is titled Question of Priorities Are we still discussing that topic ? ANS: NO ! He’s gone on holiday knowing that when he returns we will all still be here discussing Everything but the topic which he left us with . AND IS’NT THAT FUN ?

        • 1647
          CORPORAL PUNISHMENT says:

          I Dont know what the female equivalent of a DICKHEAD is but you are one What the fuck am i trying to spoil ? I’ve told you i fucking hate Brown with a passion i dispise all his Scum party But to keep going over and over the same shite would rid this blog of half it’s contributors from boredom So now and again a little light humour doesn’t hurt does it ?

        • 1652
          CORPORAL PUNISHMENT says:

          And if you had a name like HARRY CRACK you wouldn’t post under your name either

        • 1671
          John Thomas says:

          Originality is everything!

  235. 1563
    VZz says:

    scotch whisky
    scotch egg
    scotch broth

    all guaranteed to make you puke

    • 1585
      |5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      > scotch whisky
      > scotch egg
      > scotch broth
      >
      > all guaranteed to make you puke

      Hey VZz – have a word with nell I’m sure she could give you somethin’ to help your morning sickness

      • 1628
        nell says:

        Spido skirts – rat poison on the way –

        Not because you are Labour – but because this latest crew ie brown/blair killed off the real john smith labour .

        JS would have really pulled in the vote. He must be turning in his grave at this self-serving, troughing, unprincipled, crew.

        • 1634
          PT Barnum says:

          Nell, my own feelings entirely. I left the Labour Party the day Blair was elected, having hung in through the Militant and Kinnock twaddle days. John Smith is the best PM we never had.

          In my darkest moments, I think Blair and Brown conspired to murder him. But that can’t be true of course. No way.

        • 1680
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          > Not because you are Labour – but because this latest crew ie brown/blair killed off the real john smith labour .
          >
          > JS would have really pulled in the vote. He must be turning in his grave at this self-serving, troughing, unprincipled, crew.

          VERY hard to disagree with Nell – but the conservatives would be far worse, believe me – do you want to pay twenty pounds to see your GP? These are the kinda scsry things they are owning up to NOW – think what they have hidden up their sleeve for us once they get in power *nightmare in downing street*

  236. 1565
    Anonymous says:

    Guido’s wankfest blog = Gutless bag of wind, OK?

    • 1578
      nell says:

      gordon’s ****fest blog = gutless bag of wind. OK?

      • 1596
        Steve Expat says:

        How polite of you nell, using asterisks.

        No-one minds the occasional use of bad language here you know? :-)

      • 1621