July 20th, 2009

Political Holidays

In Ireland the economic downturn is the worst for a generation, unemployment is rising and the political class is trying to ram the rejected Lisbon Treaty down the electorate’s throats on October 2. So last week was a perfect time for them to go on holiday until mid-September.

In Westminster the political class disappears this week.  No taxpayers will be harmed by Guido’s holiday for a month in France and he will be back before the MPs to hound those going on taxpayer funded “fact-finding” missions to the Carribean.

This year, as in previous years, the blog will be sporadically updated during the holidays (though remember the year when Guido revealed John Prescott’s long term mistress over a glass of rosé from the maison secondaire).  The ensuing media malestorm did not amuse Mrs Fawkes.  Guido has promised no scoops will disturb us on the beach and that the Blackberry will be consulted only sporadically.


698 Comments

  1. 1
    Hugh Janus says:

    Enjoy your 82 days Guido, but I’m willing to bet that if something juicy comes your way you won’t be able to resist it – Mrs F or no Mrs F!

    • 3
      Hugh Janus says:

      Sorry, it’s a mere month for Guido – the 82 days are for those troughing Hoons who claim to represent us. Nice work if you can get it – off until early October in the worst financial crisis to hit this country in decades and a PM who is completely barking pretending to be at the helm.

      • 11
        Plato says:

        Well the BBC will be making sure that it’s a Labour summer if they can.

        Facebook reveals that 11x more BBC employees are lefties than righties

        • 25
          righty right wing (mrs) says:

          Like Neo Labours Police & other public service industries, if you do not conform to their worldview & accept publicly that you love Big Brother then you cannot get a job on the public gravy train.

          The BBC is the enemies broadcaster of choice.

        • 358
          Budgie says:

          Please, please, please do not buy a TV licence. A TV is not needed with newspapers, radio, dvd and internet. Bring the BBC to our senses.

      • 13
        nell says:

        Not to forget that they are also supposed to be conducting a war.

        But no doubt gordon can do that from his expensively taxpayers funded retreat in the Lake District.

        • 124
          Plato says:

          HMG has been burying bad news today big time.

          Is Mr McBride’s media fest a distraction perhaps?!

        • 126
          nell says:

          Plato I think you could be right.

          But then of course gordon hasn’t had any contact with mcbride lately has he?

        • 188
          PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

          28.7 billion in lost tax revenues
          295 million of mislaid MoD funds
          100 or 200 million in fraud/error by HMRC
          Plus cockups in legal aid, Train to Gain being called a waste of money by the NAO, who also refuse to sign off the accounts of Equalities and Human Rights Commission.

          Oh to be in England, now that summer’s here…..

      • 15

        They regulated us into this financial mess! They’re the last people you’d want to try to fix it.

      • 46
        thick as thieves says:

        82 days? 82 DAYS? EIGHTY TWO MOTHERFUCKING DAYS!
        These workshy thieves must think they have won the jackpot.
        the workdrones can only dream of taking eighty-two days off during the course of any single working year. most people will get around 30. all year.
        and the party that was supposed to represent the interests of the drones have turned out to be just as fucking bad as the nasty milk snatching tories: maybe worse.
        It’s all a load of shit really, isn’t it?
        FUCK THESE C’UNTS – VOTE INDEPENDENT
        MAKE THESE GREEDY MPIG THIEVES SQUEAL – FUCK ‘EM GOOD, REAL GOOD!
        VOTE INDEPENDENT – PRO LESBIAN – PRO PEACE – PRO PARTIES!
        but we don’t want people just turning up out of their nut making a mess of the place . fuck that shit motherfucker.
        and before you ask, no steve, you can’t join.
        no tramps.

        • 56
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          flip, flip,flip, flip.

        • 76
          thick as thieves says:

          have you filled out your thick as thieves fan club application form yet and are your subs up to date?
          if not then you are simply being a cheeky c’unt.
          I’M TOP BOY WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?
          oh, and you failed to answer my question.
          how can you and why do you support the new labour war party, a party which is stuffed full of war criminals.
          look here 5p€d0☻|5h0rt5|, you will have to face up to the facts.
          vote independent, it is the answer to the question.
          whether you like it or not.
          innit.

        • 84
          Anonymous says:

          Er, more tea vicar?

        • 121
          Hugh Janus says:

          Please feel free to speak your mind TaT. Whatever you do, don’t hold back.

        • 146
          Rough Diamond says:

          Unlike many others, he has a mind, Look and learn.

        • 373
          Budgie says:

          Never mind the “independents”, why encourage politicians at all?

          What we need is a new national party that promises to pass one law – The Direct Democracy Law – and then dissolve itself for another general election.

          That way politicians really become our servants and individual policies become possible.

        • 399
          Sick of the lot of them says:

          Yes, Budgie. Voting for these kuntz only encourages them. Direct democracy is what is required. The party system has destroyed this once-great country. Whips use their power to subvert the Will of the people and enforce the dogma thought up by treasonous, top-floating scum like Mandy in Labour, Clegg in the LibDems and their equivalents in the Tory party. The don’t give a fuck about the people they purport to represent and never have done.

        • 425
          Sir William Waad says:

          The potential problems with direct democracy are (a) people might pass laws that you don’t like (b) people are stupid and (c) the majority can tyrannise the minority.

          My solution is to pay all MPs by results. They should have a small basic salary and then a bonus based on factors such as unemployment levels, happiness, peace, economic growth, education and health outcomes, all measured objectively by an independent international body.

        • 656
          Budgie says:

          Sir Willy Waad has objected; my answers are underneath.

          “(a) people might pass laws that you don’t like”
          Boo hoo! That’s why it’s called democracy. If you don’t like the new Direct Democracy law – fight back. In any case laws that I don’t like are passed in the current system (with even less electoral support).

          “(b) people are stupid”
          That’s what those in power always claim if their power is questioned. If people really are stupid, why have democracy at all? Try selling that one.

          “(c) the majority can tyrannise the minority”
          Better than the current system where the minority tyrannise the majority.

          What Direct Democracy does is deliver us from the tyranny of the party system. DD is more like the ancient Greek notion of democracy. Indeed the only reason we had parties in the past is that we did not have the technology to cope. Now we do. And only the politicians have anything to lose.

        • 674
          Anonymous says:

          “(c) the majority can tyrannise the minority”
          Better than the current system where the minority tyrannise the majority.

          Er really?

          As much as I’d love it if everyone was allowed to not work and claim benefits and watch Jeremy Kyle, I don’t think it’d do the country much good.

          Perhaps it’s good to have those with the brains near the top

      • 593
        Lord W. says:

        After about six minutes Gerrard returned to the victim who was sitting alone at the bar and allegedly confronted him with the words: “Who the f*** do you think you are?

        • 662
          Paul Parton says:

          Silly boy.
          Everyone knows he should have asked
          “Who are ya?”
          (though in a stupid Scouse rather than Cockney accent)

        • 698
          Damian's Capilliaries says:

          Good article. I thought I was reading Stalin: The Court of the Red Tzar again when, no, it’s a British government cabinet. Here’s the link

    • 4
      Annoymouse says:

      Enjoy the peace and quiet and relaxation time – there’ll be plenty of fun when you get back I’m sure.

    • 19

      By all accounts, this recession isn’t going to anywhere near as long or deep as previous recessions. Plus, there’s people around like, say, Philip Green who have the right idea. The retread economists and vested interests have had their day and are just procrastinating. Change and the challenges of change are here, today, and if they don’t get with the programme we’ll see who’s left standing when it’s done.

      See you on the other side.

      • 38
        Stormforce says:

        Charlie,
        Are you on another planet or just trolling?
        It’s already deeper than previous recessions and likely to be longer.

        Philip Green is just talking up his market. Who can blame him with the amount he’s got at stake.

        • 64
          thick as thieves says:

          actually, charlie is on a particularly strong strain of superskunk which he is using as a replacement therapy as he tries one last time to withdraw from heroin.
          but he is finding it such a struggle! if only he didn’t like it so much!
          what a c’unt, eh?
          judging by his irrational posts the motherfucker must be clucking like a crackhead bitch. fuck knows how the c’unt manages to even see the fucking keyboard never mind type anything.
          it’s fucking amazing really.
          I say well done charles, keep withdrawing from the smack and one day you will be normal.
          goodbye smackhead.

        • 546
          Dick the Prick says:

          Proper chuckle – cheers TaT

      • 99
        shelling-out says:

        See you on the other side.

        Hoon.

      • 125
        Trev says:

        Here is one account …

        In January the IMF said – Britain’s economy will be the hardest hit in the developed world in what is expected to be the “deepest recession since the second world war,”

        In April the IMF said – The prospects for the advanced economies are not much brighter in 2010, with an overall forecast of zero growth.
        The IMF said this represents “by far the deepest post-World War II recession” with an actual decline in output in countries making up 75% of the world economy.
        ‘The financial crises has brought about a sharp deterioration in public finances and public debt, which is now expected to double in about five years.’
        ‘The buildup of leverage that preceded this crisis was substantial, and certainly on a par with other periods in history that have ended in a collapse in credit’

        This July the IMF said – Notwithstanding recent signs of stabilization, underlying vulnerabilities in the UK are sizeable.’
        ‘Looking ahead, the economic recovery is expected to be subdued and gradual
        as banks and households go throu
        ‘The structural fiscal position was already weak at the onset of the crisis — government expenditure as a share of GDP has increased substantially
        in the last decade, while some of the revenue strength financing the increase has proved to be unsustainable … Sizeable fiscal deficits were recorded even as the cycle reached its peak … net borrowing is projected to result in a doubling of gross general government debt over the next 5 years … resources committed to financial sector support measures so far have exceeded 60 percent of GDP’

        • 661
          hang the traitors says:

          Financial speculators predict that the U S dollar will go tits up around 30th Sept, the U S economy will collapse. Every U S embassy around the world has been told to purchase enough local currency to last them for one year. They have been told to stay clear of £ Sterling. Big shit is on the way, stock up with food.!

      • 426
        Pontius The Pilot says:

        Yeah, sure enough Charlie, Philip Green had the right idea.

        Stick everything in the wifes’ name and fuck off to Monaco out of the reach of the grasping hands of these lefty, social engineering fuckers.

    • 24

      assume the swine flu has cleared up before travel. Dont want to upset Burnham

    • 36
      5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

      HHAHHHAaaaHHAhahaaaaaa!!!!1 The best couched admission FAILURE I have seen for YEARS!!!! HHiiiiioooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooaaaaaaahhhhhh!!!!

      Fuck off to France and let democacy flourish here – or export your bile to Belfast via Paris.

      Bon Fooking Voyage tory boy – I’ll look after the fort for ya coz labour folks are honest and pirncipled and trustworthy.

      Have a good holiday and I hope it helps you find your lost principles and moral scruples.

    • 77
      Trev says:

      Presumably Prescott (or Pauline) has got a cast iron assurance in writing that Prescott will be made a peer (and more importantly Pauline a lady) on his retirement, as a quid pro pro for not Mrs P not firing off the odious slob when he was found out.

    • 137
      Bordeaux Binger says:

      Bonnes Vacances. Stay away from the 2007 reds, the Sauternes are OK though. The Gendarmes are very busy with their speed cameras this year so be careful.

    • 138
      freddie flintoff says:

      eh up lads and lasses what a bowling spell eh

      • 150
        Lord Levy says:

        freddie, you were awesome! Pick your gong, and as a special thankyou, no charge.

        • 156
          freddie flintoff says:

          i got a gong or something in 2005 lad , i still aint going to vote labour lad

        • 263
          Bordeaux Binger says:

          Nothing but a Knighthood now. Sir Freddie has a certain ring to it.

        • 294
          barefootcontessa says:

          Oh, so you think so do you? I hate these establishment baubles. They smack of the 18th century. The USA have got it right on this one.

      • 224
        Geoffry Boycott says:

        keep it up lad ,bloody marvellous

    • 288
      Wossat? says:

      Tip a few for me will you? Enjoy your holls, you earned ‘em.

  2. 2

    All well and good but how do you think the Irish will vote?

    Bonnes vacances!

    • 21

      Government can’t do everything on its own, and a little help from the likes of the CBI and their well-heeled Tory pals would go some way to creating the innovation and support that’s needed to get through the recession.

      The government is correct to identify ‘green technology’ as a source of economic growth as well as a better world. Effort tends to follow focus so people would be bettter off paying attention than wallowing.

      Haul ass, soldier.

      • 28
        Charles E Hardwidge says:

        As the motorbike yearns for the ore from which it sprung unto this mortal coil, so shall Labour assume their original state of being.

        All is well.

      • 37
        Steve Expat says:

        Charles (post 20) – what on earth does your comment have to do with the question “How do you think the Irish will vote?”

        • 42
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          What has you questtion to charles got to do with the subject ya fucking hypocritical enfente terrible.

        • 107
          barefootcontessa says:

          SS, we know you’re seriously ignorant, you tell us every day! It’s enfant, not enfente. You’ve obviously spent too much time writing rubbish to concentrate on your French lessons – or any lessons.

        • 113

          You can’t spell therefore you are a troll of the New (or old) Labia kind.

          Fuck off!

        • 227
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          I was seven years old *Hmmm 1960 that would be)* when I last got French so I think I will forgive myself for the occasional lapse. You are quite right to comment on it though. Hope the explanation helps.

        • 292
          Anonymous says:

          Point taken, well said SS.

        • 296
          barefootcontessa says:

          The above from Bfc.

      • 101
        shelling-out says:

        If Government are so keen on green technology, could someone please explain to me why the HoC is always lit up like a christmas tree at night – along with the rest of London and the West End. Shitloads of energy being wasted there.

        • 139
          Santa's little fucker says:

          For MP’s, every day is xmas! Cash gifts, slap up dinner, after noon snooze in the house, and then, with luck, a little surprise in stockings.

        • 406
          Sick of the lot of them says:

          There shouldn’t be any electricity supplied to the Houses of Parliament. If it’s too dark for the kuntz therein to see, then the volume of worthless verbiage the institution gushes forth every year would be cut by a considerable amount.

      • 303
        JMT says:

        Balls – Green jobs depend totally on Government subsidies.

        Those subsidies come from the extortionate taxes on oil/petrol/diesel/coal.

        Therefore “Green” jobs are dependent on fossil fuels.

        How “sustainable” is that?

      • 659
        Budgie says:

        Even in CEH’s Tennants fueled weird world why would the CBI or the Tories help Liebore out the hole it has dug for itself?

  3. 5
    Inspector Foyle says:

    make sure vous are not with vodaphone. it does not work where I have my maison secondaire.

    • 43
      5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

      when our phones are shoved up your arse shite impairs reception – do not adjut your set.

      • 140
        freddie flintoff says:

        hey lad i got a nice sharp stump , pulled from the lords pitch , so bend over and take it like a man ( thats if you are one )

        • 229
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          Oh, I’m a man alright Freddy, a better one than you’ll ever be. *spin* on it.

          0
          ..||
          .c

  4. 6
    obangobang says:

    “malestorm”? Shome mishtake, shurely

    Maelstrom is I believe the word you were looking for. Unless the story resulted in a mass rendition of the Weather Girls’ classic, of course.

    • 8
      Dr Feelgood says:

      Is a ‘malestorm’ is what a certain confirmed batchelor politician used to enjoy on the beach at Cape Cod?

      • 297
        Master Baiter says:

        Nice and inclusive as ever Doktor Vielgut.

        • 401
          Dr Feelgood says:

          Good for him if that’s what he’s into, but he should be out and proud and not be a hypocrite about it.

          “[Gordon] is a private man. You know from the way he has been brought up. It is a bit like me in a way. You don’t show emotions in public. I think we may come from similar backgrounds, similar maternal influences.” – Lord Mandelson
          http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/martin_ivens/article6719169.ece

          Mandy’s trying to tell us something…

        • 412
          Sick of the lot of them says:

          Mandy’s a kunt; so is Brown. They’re both from similar backgrounds? Yeah, that figures. Both extended phenotypes closely resembling fly-blown dogshit.

        • 420
          Master Baiter says:

          Doktor Vielgut, is confused as ever.
          A person’s relationship with his or her wife or husband and his or her previous or current close relationships or sexual encounters really are none of anyone else’s business.
          There is nothing hypocritical in being open or closed about sexual preferences or inclinations.
          It is hypocritical if a person publicly condemns, vilifies, demeans or stigmatises behaviour that person privately practices or approves of.
          No charge, but be warned.

        • 609
          Fred Truman says:

          Eee bah gum, line and length…

  5. 7
    Steve Expat says:

    Enjoy your holiday Guido, you’ve certainly earned it this year, unlike our politicians.

    I’m sure if a big scoop lands in your lap it would be too much for you to sit on your hands until the end of August, Mrs. F or no Mrs F.

    By the way, can we expect from you some Irish referendum campaigning on your return? I think most people here are of the opinion that the “No” campaign could do with a raise in profile…

  6. 12
    Sir William Waad says:

    à bientôt

  7. 14

    Best Fish Soup Perard of Le Touquet sold in litre jars, bring a case back, they have a website too. I’ll take as much as you want to sell! Have fun we’ll take care of matters here. All dead by October – swine flu – wash your hands..Property will be dirt cheap though..

  8. 16

    I’ve commented on the media and society in the past, and there’s a strong case to suggest that the general clutter and sneery attitude is draggng the show down, and that has an influence on things as diverse as education and crime.

    Jeez, folks. Relax and let it go.

  9. 17

    I would like to echo the other commenters’ remarks and say that I hope you enjoy your holiday. You have indeed earned it.

    • 421
      Abolish the Licence Fee says:

      Seconded!
      Enjoy your well-deserved break, Guido. Then return to the fight afresh in September!

  10. 18
    I never briefed that darling was for the chop, Tom Bradby, I'm honest Gordon says:

    politicalbetting says
    http://politicalbetting.com/

    I can understand McBride’s motivation – the long, slow process of rehabilitating himself so that he might one day be able to take part in British politics again. This is probably how I would have done it – a non-political interview in a generally friendly paper (or at least one that shares a dislike for the Conservatives). I don’t think it will succeed, because I don’t think that once Brown goes that many in the Labour Party will want McBride’s special brand of job-approach – I’d suggest it more likely that he is brought back on board quietly in the run up to an election. Thus the reason that McBride is so ready to mention Coulson – at the time, he had to go: if Coulson stays, then Brown might feel he has the lattitude to bring McBride back.

    And it is Coulson who is the star of this interview. He dominates the first three paragraphs – McBride’s old rival, the man who might go the same way – each reference designed to create parity between the scandals, and the men who their opponents blame for them.

    That, I’d suggest, is why this interview has come out now. After Smeargate (News International) and Expensesgate (the Daily Telegraph), the Guardian thought it had the third great political scandal of the year in Coulson and the phone-tapping. The buzz has somewhat died (even though there were…celebrities involved!) and the Guardian is determined to flog the just-about-alive horse or at least get some political capital for it. If Cameron gets to keep Coulson, they will at least help McBride in his rehabilitation.

    Or of course, it could just be a fairly slow news month – being July and all – and when McBride called up and suggested a pint, a certain Guardian journalist said ‘why not?’. Question is: does this make it more likely Coulson goes, or does this make it more likely McBride will return?

    • 663
      Andy "Amnesia" Coulson says:

      Fucked if I know. After that long schpiel, I can’t even remember the question.

      Nuffink to do wiv me guv, innit.

  11. 20
    Sarah says:

    Just read the heart-rending story of a modest, decent civil servant. Whose only desire was to serve his PM and country, and who was brought low by a nihilistic, vicious blogger.*
    It’s here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/17/damian-mcbride-smeargate-emails-gordon-brown
    Just awful. I’m running out of tissues.
    A Damascus moment that even Paul of Tarsus would envy – he’s turned away from the fleshpots and stews of Westminster to help young people achieve their potential.

    What say you now Mr. Fawkes??????

    *This post may contain sarcasm.

  12. 22
    nell says:

    Yes have a great holiday but I’m also praying for a bit of political scandal to lighten up the summer fun – sorry!

    • 44
      Dack Blog says:

      Nell… don’t know if you listened to this already but thought it might interest you.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b00lk028

      • 63
        nell says:

        OMG Dack I’ve just listened to the first ten mins -(will go back and listen to the resdt later) but it’s absolutely shocking!!!

        “Unproteced outdated Nimrods, not up to the job – blatant safety breaches -should never have been passed as safe to fly………….” – the view of experts

        And then Bob’not up to the job’Ainsworth spinning lies for all he’s worth ” this fleet is airworthy ‘ and safe to use in Afghanistan.

        • 65
          Dack Blog says:

          Just when you thought you couldn’t hate Ainsworth more.

        • 74
          nell says:

          I wonder how ministers like he and gordon sleep at night knowing they’ve put thousands of men into a war frontline with badly maintained, unsuitable equipment or in the case of helicopters – no equipment at all.

        • 196
          Wet Dreams says:

          The tragic reality is that they probably sleep soundly, safe in the belief that
          1 “It’s the right thing to do”
          2 “Getting on with the job”
          3 “Taking the tough decisions”
          4 “60% more helicopter capacity”
          5 “It started in Helmand”
          6 “Do nothing tories”
          7 “0% growth in casualties by 2013″
          8 “Happy to leave without a shot being fired”
          9 “Government of substance, not soundbites”

          99 “Change hands”

        • 427
          A Government Spokesman says:

          Sending our troops into battle with inadequate resources is “the right thing to do.”

        • 516
          GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

          What about ?
          Prudence
          Boom And Bust
          It’s what the public want
          It started in america
          10% tory Cuts
          The McMental twat is just so full of shit !

        • 666
          Charles Mills says:

          Prudence was jilted at the altar for

          Fiscal Irresponsibility

    • 664
      Andy "Amnesia" Coulson says:

      What about me?

      I’m a one-man fuckin scandal machine on me own.

  13. 23

    The last time I checked the Tories destroyed most working class jobs and actively shifted earnings from blue collar workers to the already well heeled.

    The CBI and their Tory pals scream like little girls at the hint of a slowdown and start hacking and slashing like some wild eyed demon. That’s not policy. It’s habit.

    There’s a point where those who “get it” become fed up with procrastinators and get motoring. Gordon Brown is working this “tipping point” to encourage that trend.

    Seize the day, etcetera.

    • 72
      McPride Pride says:

      How is unlimited immigration helping working class jobs?

    • 103
      shelling-out says:

      It isn’t, but Charlie boy hasn’t figured that out yet.

    • 675
      Budgie says:

      Gordoom McBust has created the biggest government peacetime debt in the nation’s entire history. Gordoom is a monument to incompetence. Of course he is now being sidelined – both Mandelson and Malloch-Brown have publicly slapped down Gordoom recently – what a joke he has become.

  14. 26
    Agincourt says:

    France, a beautiful country that has the misfortune of being populated by french people.

  15. 27

    http://www.conservatives.com/News/Speeches/2006/06/Cameron_The_new_global_economy.aspx

    ^ The Tories tried to erase this Cameron speech from history.

    It’s not Labour who are Stalinist.

    • 35
      Steve Expat says:

      Charles – that was three years ago, the world was a very different place then. Votera are more concerned with what DC says and does today, how policy progresses as events happen and how best we move forward from where we are today with an overburdened state sector threatening the economy and the Pound.

      I’m sure Bliar said equally silly things in 1994 and before if you want us all to go digging for stuff.

      • 108
        shelling-out says:

        Blair did say silly things.

        In 1997 he said “Things can only get better”

        He lied.

        • 117
          barefootcontessa says:

          Blair said 45 minutes, he lied.

          Blair said education, education, education, and he lied.

          Blair said, “trust me, I’m a nice kind of guy”. He lied.
          etc, etc, etc,.

        • 127

          I think everything Blair said was a lie.

          Was he really called Tony Blair? His real name is probably Adolph Stalin, he’s fucked the country that badly.

        • 443
          Pontius The Pilot says:

          Along with “weapons of mass destruction, 45 minutes”, “Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime”, “I will stay for a full third term as Prime Minister”…

          care to add any more, people? Theres shedloads out there. You dont want us to start digging into Gordons’ lies do you Charles? Theres millions of the bloody things.

        • 665
          Andy "Amnesia" Coulson says:

          Maybe he just forgot.

          You know, I got me phone bugged too. The police said it so it must be true and we never give them any money so we don’t, despite Rebekah’s slipsie wipsie.

          I’m a wee victimy wee poor girlie thing too.

  16. 30
    nell says:

    A group entitled 38 Degrees is inviting members of the public to join their Holiday Watch Campaign and send in snaps of any MP’s that they encounter during their summer hols.

    It’s part of a wider survey aimed at establishing whether MP’s doing any work during their, fully paid, extended break.

    • 39
      Steve Expat says:

      Good idea that – http://38degrees.org.uk/page/s/MPholidaywatch is the site.

      I’ll keep an eye out over here for any wayward Parliamentarians enjoying Arab hospitality – maybe a few Liebour ones trying to find out how they get away with a small, powerful, appointed cabinet and no elections accross most of the Middle East!!

      • 49
        Trough Mixture. says:

        In Morocco I’m told they have boys on sticks.

        I dare say there’s an HoC Travel Club coach trip.

    • 110
      shelling-out says:

      Gawd. I hope you told him to get a life, Nell.

      • 159
        nell says:

        Nope !!!!

        I think we should all be on the look out for these MP people who are holidaying for 82 (EIGHT TWO!!!!) days on our taxes which are paying for their full wages and their expenses.

        Where are they during this period and how are they living it up!!!???

        Come on it’s OUR money.

        • 170
          GB Plc Creditors says:

          Not any more it is’nt.

        • 194
          PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

          I got an email from my MP today (in reply to a query about Gary McKinnon) but I don’t know where he is….

        • 301
          barefootcontessa says:

          Diane Abbott voted against Gary being spared extradition. I have written a very strong letter to her. Good old compassionate nlab!

  17. 31
    NewGirl says:

    Am absurdly jealous of your month in France Guido…NewGirl is feeling very Mondayish today. I do hope you’ll have some little soupcons to interest us with while you are off chilling and knocking back the French plonk…

    • 667
      Andy "Amnesia" Coulson says:

      And don’t forget the totty titty pics, and maybe a few full French bush.

      I’ve forgotten what they look like what with all these shaven haven bitches about the place.

  18. 32
    Anonymous says:

    The trouble with the right is they spread the happy things only amongst themselves.

    The trouble with the left is they spread the unhappy things equally.

    • 114
      nell says:

      The trouble with the left is they don’t have any happy things to spread!

      • 128

        The trouble with the left, is that they are narcissistic, projecting and motivated by envy.

        • 152
          nell says:

          There you go!!!!

        • 175
          Doctor Handsful says:

          The trouble with the left is, that it hangs lower than the right.

        • 249
          Dack Blog says:

          That’s to balance the narcissistic, unable to empathise, motivated by greed right. Yin-yang.

        • 538
          Ambidextrous Cheerleader says:

          Go Lefties! Go Righties!

          its a shame we all work against eachother when the only things we really disagree on are how we should respond to things.

          Ho Hum. Another 100 years maybe?

        • 615
          Dack Blog says:

          Find (if you can) a decent candidate and vote for them. From my experience they’re more often independent candidates – and intelligent enough not to have extreme views.

  19. 34
    Catosays says:

    Have a good one Guido….well deserved. Mrs Fawkes and the Fawkettes deserve a break too.

  20. 41
    Anonymous says:

    When [guido[ the cats away !! WILL ? the mice play !!!!!!!!!!!

  21. 45
    Socialism is it a cult says:

    Have a good break. And return refreshed and invigourated…it’s going to be a some autumn without a doubt.

    Italia here I come….over the Brenner from where I am based.

    • 51
      5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

      please go to Italy – the quicker the better – (what’s italian for get to fuck ya brown lipped wanker?).

      • 94
        Anonymous says:

        i tell you what it is , it’s pronounced sped – o – shorts, as in wanker just like you

        • 240
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Thank you for that – I’d rather know than not know – even when its uncomfortable to have that knowledge — I just KNOW you’re of the same stamp yourself :\

        • 532
          Doctor Mick says:

          Va fa u’un culo, Spaedo Jocks.

  22. 50
    nell says:

    O/T sorry but appropriate after England’s fantastic win today over the Aussies at Lords for the first time since 1934.

    In 1934 when England beat the Aussies at Lords there was a Labour Govt in very deep economic trouble.

    The following year Labour was soundly beaten at a GE and the Conservatives took over to lead us out of recession.

    See that win today is a good omen. No wonder gordon’s been ignoring it!!

    • 53
      5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

      Nell, even my deep anamalistic sexual attraction to you can overcome that pile of shite you just issued forth with……go lie down dear.

      • 66
        Cheese Sandwich says:

        No, you f-off speedo, we don’t want your socialist twaddle round here

      • 88
        Sigmund(Jethro)Freud says:

        Interesting that: “anamalistic”, rather than the more usual ‘animalistic’.
        I conclude that the subject is subconsciously anxious to avoid references to animals, hence his otherwise unaccountable mis-spelling of a quite common word; his preferred ‘mis-spelling’ is, I think, equally revealing: “ana-malistic”, is ‘ana’ a feminine form for the term ‘anus’? Is he rejecting what some coy people refer to as ‘the front-botty?’ – is he at desperate shifts to see the anus as, somehow, the essentially feminine part, thus, seemingly, rejecting the vagina too (that would tie-in with his patronising dismissal of “Nell”, while his infantile obsession with excrement – and insistence on mentioning it -”pile of shite” – in mixed company, implies a deep loathing/fear of the feminine)?
        I conclude that this subject may have deeply repressed yearnings for what is often confrontationally termed ‘bestiality’: it would be instructive to know what, if any, pets he had as a child.

        • 97
          nell says:

          Oh for goodness sake stop beating about the bush!

          Freud would contend that he hasn’t been properly potty trained – we mother’s know all about freud and his views on children.

        • 106
          Dack Blog says:

          Freud would have a field day with ‘beating about the bush’.

        • 243
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Nell’s bush?

        • 444
          Carl Gustav Jung says:

          Freud was a fucking pervert, anyway. His fevered jottings are now largely discredited within the psychoanalytical community.

        • 552
          Obi Won Freud says:

          you can not defeat me carl even if you strike me down i shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

    • 80
      Steve Expat says:

      …and there was me thinking you didn’t like the cricket Nell!!

      • 100
        nell says:

        Don’t have any choice in this house – cricket mad household this one – even down to the local level – I’m the mum who does all those cricket teas on sundays.

    • 96
      Billy Doctrove says:

      Andrew, forty big ones as agreed, right?

      • 98
        Rudy Koertzen says:

        surely it was fifty each and a side wager with Paddy Power?

        It’s just not fucking cricket.

    • 143
      freddie flintoff says:

      eh up i bowled a few good balls and swannsong was a star

      • 167
        Steve Expat says:

        Well done Freddie! Only six players with their names on both the honours’ boards at Lords… :-)

        (100 runs for batsmen and five wickets for bowlers, for those that don’t know)

  23. 52
    Sir William Waad says:

    Quite an amusing headline. A French football team has cancelled a trip to England becuse they fear la grippe:

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=660928&sec=europe&cc=5739

    • 54
      5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

      Scottish players have known about that danger for years from you English poofters dressed up as sportsmen.

      • 73
        The Master says:

        men in dresses……..scotland

        • 241
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          Yip NATIONAL dress – jealous aren’t you, Mr native of a mongrel breed devoid of any identity whatsoever. *poor sod, I feel sorry for you*. Come to Scotland, we’ll make you welcome as a second generation Scot.

        • 534
          Doctor Mick says:

          Like all the celtic supporters are welcome you bigots.

      • 75
        Mr Slater's Parrot says:

        KRAWWW-KK! KRAA! HULLOSAYLER! GIZZAJOB! A-ARRKK!

    • 68
      nell says:

      Is there no swine flu in France then?

      • 89
        Jethro says:

        No, Nell: the Garlic and the Cheese act as repellants.

        • 129
          nell says:

          Cheaper than tamiflu then ?

          Maybe we should try it!

        • 451
          Some bloke says:

          Indeed so. Apparently, rubbing rocquefort under your foreskin prevents mosquito bites, too. Obviously this isn’t much use if your Jewish or a woman, though.

  24. 55
    Darcy says:

    Have a splendid break old chap.

    If you would be kind enough to ban that hateful fucktard Hardwidge before you go, it would be much appreciated. His presence in the comments adds nothing to the debate and only serves to make reading the comments less entertaining than it used to be.

    Lefties are more than welcome to join in here but deluded, sociopathic twats should amuse themselves elsewhere.

    • 60
      5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

      Yawn, oh YAWN oh YAwwwwwwnnnnn I have just given up the will to fooking live….are all english folk so fucking arse lickingly humble?

      • 86
        Anonymous says:

        you should know, you’ve licked browns arse many times. tasty is it? prescotts is bigger , does that taste better?

        • 242
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          How should I know you ignorant fuck – I am Scottish and I was asking about English people.

        • 258
          Anonymous says:

          dont you believe in democracy, or is democracy just for you? u alcoholic jock strap.

  25. 67
    Captain Haddock says:

    Have a grand hols Guido .. and return fully refreshed to give that odious arsewipe McBride the rubber-dicking he truly deserves ..

    He’s obviously learned nothing from his last experience ..

  26. 69

    My general view is the the Tories stock is overvalued, and they need to go beyond mere branding and polls to fix themselves so they’re fit for any role in governance. As the nasty party coughs up its subconscious and the Liberals reassert themselves as the unofficial opposition, I suspect, their headline prospects will reflect that soon enough.

    • 78
      Engineer says:

      Dream on, pal.

    • 81
      Trough Mixture. says:

      Your view is obscured Chas. Have you tried opening the curtains?

    • 83
      South of the M4 says:

      The ‘ nasty ‘ party Charles, old chap, is a title long-ago adopted by the present government. Get with the times.

    • 92
      Charles. E. Jethro(Ltd.) says:

      68 -My general view is that Hardwidge’s stock is overvalued – not least, by himself -, and that he needs to go beyond mere brandishing of outworn cliches and pole-axes himself, so as to fit himself for any role in governance. As the nasty party coughs up its subscriptions and the Liberals reassert themselves as the unofficial opposition-ginger, I suspect, their headline prospects will, respectively, reflect that soon enough.

      • 112
        shelling-out says:

        Yes, Charles. It’s just not what englishmen do – and you are no englishman.

    • 329
      incandescent-with-rage says:

      I didn’t realise they had windows in padded cells.

    • 645
      stilyagi_air_corps says:

      Charles – As an obvious autistic with time on his hands, what do you think of New Labour’s treatment of Gary McInnon? They even accused him of faking his condition in the HOC – how Nasty is that, Charles?

  27. 70
    The Master says:

    Guido, Mrs Fawkes can’t really present too much of a hurdle can she…..
    Butter her up, bit of breakfast in bed, long lunches with good wine, the odd surprise gift, keep the little Fawkes’s entertained, candles in the bathroom, do the business and then you have time to do what you do so well! Enjoy

  28. 85
    Anonymous says:

    Why I am on the left: Because I trust the better side of human nature to prevail against selfishness and greed says toynbee.

    so why doesnt she do what christ suggested? give up all her worldy goods, including her tuscan villa, and offer them up to the poor. You could make poverty history polly, couldnt you?

    I think her rantings sum up all you were ever likely to want to know about socialism. I sit here with my wealth and tell the little people how to live their lives. There are many people in the world today already doing that, like Kim Jong Il, even Gordon Brown.

    • 213
      Sarah says:

      Today’s Gruaniad was a……I’m not entirely sure of what would be the correct word to use.
      An arselickingfest, a socialist circle jerk?
      Polly, Purnell, and Cruddass, and a few other cretins all starting the rebranding exercise which they think will help Labour win the next election.
      I’m pretty sure they’d lose, even with Flintoff as party leader, but the craven, smug, lying, conniving, time-serving lickspittles just can’t see it.

      • 283
        Croesus says:

        Ah, now I understand why Purnell was on Newsnight for half an hour last night. The joint editorial board of the BBC-Guardian (sub-department of the MiniTrue) had decided that was today’s story for the proles.

        So all I need to do to find out what the BBC’s lead story is going to be is to steal a copy of the Guardian…

        • 314
          barefootcontessa says:

          Purnell? That self serving greasy pole climber! Trying to sell newlabour as a new philosophical movement. His slightly crumpled black cotton jacket more akin to a pop star’s, except for the uncrisp dirty looking open necked shirt he was wearing.

          Couldn’t, wouldn’t, answer Kirsty’s question about the gorgon’s demise. What a jerk. If he’s trying to sell himself as a new product then he’s failing lamentably.

          Go get a life James Purnell, you’re just the same as the rest of them! Politicians who don’t know the difference between truth and lies!

      • 285
        freddie flintoff says:

        hey lass dont go there i got a few test matches to play in , the labour party is dead it died in 1994

        • 336
          Cjamesk says:

          How`s the knee for the 3rd Test?

          We gotta do them Aussies Freddie!

        • 344
          freddie flintoff says:

          lad i will bowl on one leg if i have to only 3 test to go , most of my overs where at 90+mph so in good nick

    • 646
      Mr Slater's Parrot says:

      KRAAAWW-K-K! PUTHEKETTLEON! SKREE-TWEET!

    • 692
      Budgie says:

      Like every greedy and selfish fellow traveler, Toynbee turns a blind eye to the Gulag and the Killing Fields and the Gas Ovens of her socialist heroes. Murdering – it’s what socialists do. Hardly surprising: if you concentrate power in the hands of a few as a matter of ideology.

  29. 87
    The Beast Of Clerkenwell says:

    At least Wacko Jocko will be “getting on with the job”
    So we can all sleep soundly in our beds

    • 93
      Sacha Baron Bruno Fondlebum says:

      You can sleep at my place anytime bigboy
      Though I do want a good Tromboning as pay back

    • 133
      Sheep of Lake District says:

      Unless you live up ‘ere, lad. We’ve got earthquakes, plague and famine to look forward to for weeks…

      • 168
        Sarah Brown says:

        If you see Gordon in wellies, run for the hills!

        • 187
          Sheep of Lake District says:

          I’ll give ‘im a right butting first, lass. My green pastures have already turned to scorched earth!

        • 245
          Lord Fumblebum of Boyz says:

          Now, now. ‘Butting’ Gordon is my job, because ‘it’s right for the country to be getting on with the job’.

  30. 90
    Enoch Powell says:

    oh well, all is well that ends well

  31. 102
    JD says:

    Our righteous masters in Brussels will be pissed off when the Irish vote NO again, but they will be heroes to the people of all those countries denied a say – just look at how many are counting on the Irish to do the right thing on their behalf:
    NO TO LISBON MEANS NO TO LISBON!
    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=38059363467&ref=mf

    And have a fantastic holiday – I believe it gets pretty hot in parts of France……JD.

    • 302
      Master Baiter says:

      And if the Irish vote Yes?
      Mwahahaha

      • 305
        freddie flintoff says:

        then its a tie so they vote best out of 3 ?

        • 315
          Master Baiter says:

          No then the UK general election campaign takes on a completely different form.

          How did that Libertas man Declan Ganley the Irish NO campainger do recently?
          The concessions to Ireland mean the likely result is Yes. The Irish remember what life was like before they were in the EU.

        • 340
          freddie flintoff says:

          so in the genral election and people vote for the torys we can have another election coz we misunderstood what labour was saying , intresting lad

        • 346
          Master Baiter says:

          Nice try.
          The Oirish have been made a different offer, with concessions they had requested, meaning the offer is one they probably cannot afford to refuse. If they vote Yes, then the UK general election will take on a different form. Imagine William Hague in a Thatcher wig holding up a pound coin, wittering on about saving the pound.
          Mwahahaha

        • 348
          freddie flintoff says:

          master lad i aint a tory i just dont understand you thinking , they voted the wrong way so they vote again , so what happens if labour get voted out and decide its the wrong way ? its just no right lad

        • 359
          Master Baiter says:

          Some people need more help, it’s no problem, patience is the key.
          The Oirish which is the people who live in Oireland voted against the Nice Treaty in 2001. So another different treaty was made called the Lisbon Treaty, the Oirish voted against that. So now, and this is the bit to concentrate really hard on, the Oirish have been offered concessions, that’s bits changed just for them, to the Lisbon Treaty and they’re going to vote on that in the autumn.
          When people vote they can vote to elect representatives, when they vote for national representatives, it’s called a general election. Also they can vote in a thing called a plebiscite or referendum. When people vote in a plebiscite or referendum they are not voting to elect representatives. Instead they are voting to approve or not an issue that they are asked to approve.
          Now get back to the physio.

        • 366
          freddie flintoff says:

          so if they changed the lisbon treaty and it aint the same will we have to change ours ? and what happens if they vote no again ? look lad people aint stupid at the moment most hate mps of all sides but making the people vote twice coz it was the wrong vote first time doesnt look good, it puts the gap between the people and the mps or the irish mps , and it goes against what was in all the main parties manifesto and we didnt get a vote , why should i trust anythiing any mp says ?

        • 441
          no longer anonymous says:

          MB, are you from Leeds by any chance?

        • 472
          Edward Heath says:

          It’s called EU democratic freedom.
          You are free to vote the way you are told to.

        • 486
          barefootcontessa says:

          How many wellies do the Irish want? Just fork up, and give them to them. Any expense spared to encourage them to vote against the constitution.

        • 647
          stilyagi_air_corps says:

          Mister Bratter – I’d far rather be ‘Oirish’ than a deracinated little fool like you who can’t even admit his own nationality!

          You’re no loss to the English.

        • 670
          Master Baiter says:

          Sweet word deracinated, Oirish snobbishness at its best.

        • 694
          Budgie says:

          If the Irish vote ‘best of three’ why not best of five? And why shouldn’t we have a vote? Anyway the French and Dutch have already rejected it. (Yes, it is the same: I have a copy of both the Constitutional treaty and the Lisbon treaty).

  32. 104
    Sukyspook says:

    The economy; swine flu; Afghanistan etc can’t really be that bad if they can all walk away for two months. If we can do without them all for that long, we can do without them all permanently. I reckon we could run the country, nay the globe (it’s global dontcherknow) online thus saving gazillions in salaries, let alone expenses.

    Glad you’ll be popping in Guido – I couldn’t manage 2 weeks without you and your posse of mostly irreverant, regularly foul mouthed but often sidesplittingly humourous proles.

    Bon vacances!

    • 111
      Engineer says:

      Are you calling me a prole? I’ve got an ‘O’-level in Woodwork I’ll have you know…

      • 198
        PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

        You’re giving your age away, mate. Ah, O levels…. You know, those things you could actually fail if you were useless. Now they give you a C if you spell your name.

        • 474
          filipinomonkey says:

          A B if it’s spelt correctly, except if it’s Charles in which case you get an E.

    • 142
      Adrian Prole says:

      Oi – leave me and my family out of it!

  33. 105
    RavingMad says:

    Enjoy the holiday Guido

    However, I know it’s boring now but am I correct in believing Damien McBride is still a New Stassi bastard?

    Enjoy

  34. 109
    Flatcap Army says:

    Same old same old

    The Government has rushed out a load of bad news on the eve of the Parlimentary recess, reports the Times

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6721120.ece

    A good day to bury bad news.

    • 123
      Engineer says:

      The only thing that would surprise anybody these days is the government having any (genuine) good news to announce.

      The financial figures are dire – which is no surprise. The National Audit Office refusing to sign off the accounts of six departments because of corruption and fraud is slightly more surprising, rather more worrying, and indicative of scant attention to basic financial management. Yet more Liebore incompetence – put out lots of eye-catching initiatives, but don’t bother with keeping the books up to date.

      Tax take going down. Borrowing going up. Financial incontinence.

      • 169
        Steve Expat says:

        Engineer, I would look carefully at any govt announcements in the next 48 hours – there’s always a whole heap of bad news released just as the Recess starts and tomorrow will be no exception

        • 220
          Steve Expat says:

          Here we go:
          http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6721120.ece
          A mountain of bad news was buried by the Government yesterday as it rushed out a string of reports and 26 ministerial statements the day before MPs go on holiday.

          Whitehall sources said that many of the reports were ready to be published several weeks ago, and would normally have been released in stages, but ministers had insisted that they were all delayed until yesterday.

    • 147
      troglodyte says:

      Something else they don’t want us to think about.
      Quarter 1 UK port traffic down 9%. But container ro-ro and auto inward down 19% and outward down 7%. As against 2008 figures.
      There aint no recovery. No business being done no cash flow no revenues for governments.
      Zen aint going to help us out of this depression.

  35. 116

    Zen is about opening the heart and mind or, as the ancient Greeks might put it: “happiness is the pursuit of excellence along lines affording scope”. Sound economics and morality is correct action, and only Labour get that.

    Repeating something often enough doesn’t make it true, even though the Tories would like to believe that.

    Be still, grasshopper.

    • 122
      Grandma B says:

      Life can only get better under the Tories, Charles. Be of good cheer.

    • 145
      shelling-out says:

      You have a habit of repeating yourself, Charles. Or hadn’t you noticed? You must be having lessons from Gordon. He does that too.

    • 151
      freddie flintoff says:

      charles just fuck off , have a wank or whatever at least thick of thievs argues his point lad now fuck off

      oh and before you say it i aint a tory lad

      • 199
        PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

        Me neither, Fred, but these Labour trolls will insist on thinking this is a Tory blog. Aren’t they silly?

        • 208
          freddie flintoff says:

          its just a unbiased blog that welcomes all comments even those from loons lad

    • 179
      Steve Expat says:

      Charles. Don’t talk about repeating the same thing over and over again and expecting it to be true – do you not remember watching Brown repeatedly saying that capital expenditure would be rising, even when his own Budget figures showed the opposite?

    • 463
      A Government Spokesman says:

      Charles, surely if one repeats the phrase: “it’s the right thing to do” enough times, it becomes true?

    • 676
      \sigh says:

      you sir are an insidious, intolerably smug prick. Empty fucking words and lies repeated endlessly. Mr. Hardwidge you are a despicable example of a human being. Nothing is too unpleasant to happen to you. May all your children breach and die.

      \sigh

  36. 120

    We all know how many ‘Spinmeisters’ are directly employed by the McMentalist

    Administration. Seems like quite a few appear on here to justify their huge salaries.

    Same old Bollocks, dear chaps. Labour are 17 points behind Cameron and Co.

    Just wait till this Winter of Discontent. You and The Socialist Experiment will be totally rebuked, thrown out, and remembered as another decade of abysmal failure.

    You are all Toast soon. Mwaaaahhhhh Haaaaaaaaaa

  37. 130

    Have a good holiday, Guido! You deserve it!

    Incidentally…
    IWhy should we believe Mandelson or Brown?

  38. 131
    Damien 666 says:

    I play the long game Guido, wait and see.

  39. 132
    nell says:

    Possible holidays this year for the politically infamous:

    - gordon taking over manor house somewhere in the lake district, causing immense upheaval and irritation to locals and at a cost to the taxpayer of about £40,000 plus for two weeks……maybe more!

    - marg*aret moron off to her taxpayer funded villa in spain to antagonise her spanish neighbours a bit further.

    - mandy off to the black sea and deri’s yacht to discuss business and all those’ not fit for service – that keep crashing’ russian helicopters ‘working’ for our lads in Afghanistan

    - polly twaddle off to Tuscany to contemplate what she can do for ‘the poverty classes in Britain’

    - tony and cheery freeloading in the bahamas as they await their chance at the ‘bottomless pit of expenses’ of the EU Presidency.

    BaronessU – servants in the marble palace in bangladesh -that you and me paid for – and I bet she’s entertaining the labour British Ambassador of bangla as we speak, with downtrodden poorly paid servants. ‘Good’ Labour.

    I wonder where the ‘prudent’ kinn*ocks are holidaying this year?

    Just Love champagne socialists- such caring, thoughtful,wonderful human beings!

    • 697

      No doubt Guido will rest AND work to tone up even more that body Mrs. F. is said to still lust for. Meanwhile, any outings should be planned carefully. No car journeys through underpasses, stay clear of (tipped) umbrellas and reject all efforts by strangers to present you with a cigar. It might be worth including Mrs. F. in the latter. Enjoy!

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  41. 135
    Wacko Jocko says:

    From now on my weird mincing gait will be known as
    THE HOON WALK

  42. 144

    I don’t do debate. My award-winning work on graphics fidelity taught me that debate is a sterile game of winners and losers, of which truth is a by-product.

    I was thinking of how people were so used to Machiavellian perspectives that people like the Tories kept fighting until they got their fingers burned. While they react with even more bullishness and paranoia, mostly, they’re just dancing at ghosts and tearing themselves apart.

    Better just to let go and be happy.

    • 148
      nell says:

      People who don’t ‘do debate’ are afraid of criticism.

      Gordon is one of them.

    • 149
      incandescent-with-rage says:

      Fidelity, schmidelity. You carry on blowing your own trumpet, and the rest of us will wonder when you’ll be going away for a nice long holiday with the men in white coats.

    • 153
      freddie flintoff says:

      people who dont debate are dictakers lad

    • 154
      Adrian Prole says:

      Charles, I think you meant:

      I don’t do my mate. My award-winning work on graphic infidelity taught me that a vasectomy is a sterile game of winners, of which pregnancy is not a by-product.

  43. 155
    P1 says:

    MPs off for nearly three months – I must have missed it but presumably they are all completely happy that the economy is set fair for a while then, the war in Afghanistan is winding down (and everyone at Westminster has done their absolute best to make sure the troops get everything they need, and more), and the MPs themselves have put their own mulitple fully-expensed houses in order? Good to know that everything is sorted – how reassuring!

    • 158
      freddie flintoff says:

      keeps gordon away from the ashes lad not all bad

      • 176
        Canary Wharf Rat says:

        He was in Sunderland today to mark the opening of Nissan’s new battery factory. Fucking place is now doomed before a bricks been laid!

        • 468
          Shoot the fuckers says:

          Gordon, please just commit suicide. For your sake and that of the country. It’s the right thing to do.

        • 544
          Doctor Mick says:

          Couldn’t happen to a better place. Bloody mackems.

        • 617
          The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976 says:

          Ah highly toxic batteries, that create huge carbon footprints during manufacture, loaded with chemicals, to power “green” cars.

          You could not make this shit up.

          No doubt the decontamination factories needed to clean the waste toxins from the batteries, after their four year lifespan, will be trumpeted as yet another success story.
          What are the statistics again?

          Oh yes I recall, for every “green” job created, 2.2 are lost in the rest of the economy, brilliant!

  44. 157
    Hugh Janus says:

    lets have a dirty protest

  45. 160
    Private Sector Worker says:

    I cannot afford to give my family a holiday but my taxes & NI are used by MPs to be off for 80 days+and jetting away.
    There has to be something totally unfair, where did I go wrong?

  46. 164
    Hugh Janus says:

    sausage jockey jammie dodgers

  47. 165
    Charles E Hardwidge says:

    As the mountain is hidden from the climber, so it is with Gordons leadership.

    Only when he has cleared the foothills on his glorious political descent will he turn and see the mountain of good he has done as the sun falls upon his smiling happy face.

    All is well.

    • 185
      So17 says:

      That is not physicaly possible. The Sun cannot shine on Gordon Browns face and out of his arse at the same time Charles.
      Have you not read the latest memo from head office? Charles,that you dare say the Sun is anywhere else other than in mein Broon’s buttocks could make you a heretic.
      Now say 25 hail Harriets and be gone.

    • 201
      Hugh Janus says:

      if you look carefully out of your window you will see my arse

    • 211
      Sheep of Lake District says:

      My mountain still has scorched earth though, Charles. No green shoots to be seen…

    • 689
      Anonymous says:

      Cock

  48. 171
    Adrian Prole says:

    Seems to have gone quieter on here. Have we been de-trolled?

  49. 172
    Canary Wharf Rat says:

    Read today that the terrorist threat had been downgraded. The reason being that the terrorists currently destroying the country are about to go on holiday for 3 months.

    • 173
      nell says:

      That’ll be the MP’s then.

      • 180
        Canary Wharf Rat says:

        Yep. Some years ago the doctors went on strike in Isreal with the result that the death rate actually fell!
        So maybe we will see a slight upturn over the next 3 months followed by more grim news once the wasters return from their jollies.

        • 658
          Longshanks says:

          Lets hope all the coppers and immigration officers fuck off on their hols too – and soon.

    • 177
      freddie flintoff says:

      no its coz everyone watching the ashes lad

  50. 181
    Canary Wharf Rat says:

    I mean the poor luvvies really deserve a 3 month break. Destroying the fabric of society is fucking hard work you know!

  51. 182
    Canary Wharf Rat says:

    Hey Fred, good weeks work!! on completion of the Aussies demise take a three month break lad but be careful who you mix with…….

    • 183
      freddie flintoff says:

      i got invited to austraila by an aussie then got told to take me peadlo and a few beers

      • 204
        Supertanker says:

        We’ll just follow you mate! Make sure to give Somalia a wide berth.

      • 247
        An Aussie says:

        Freddie, mate, well bowled. Good to see a contest at last. There’s a coldy waiting if you make it to Manly in the SS Paedlo. Roll on Edgbaston. The fat lady hasn’t sung yet, and our boys will be filthy right now.

        • 289
          freddie flintoff says:

          cheers lad can i say that clarke and haddin should some bottle lad , that two close tests could be a repeat of 2005 lad

  52. 186
    nell says:

    Love this DT report. “In the long and undistiguished history of labour smears……

    The attempt to smear Gen. Sir Richard Dannatt as he attempted to protect his dying troops on the front line in Afghanistan is one of the most ill-conceived and shamefully executed labour smear campaigns …..Ever………….”

    Sure Is!!!!! Why are we using 2nd rate russian helicopters and why have we got bob’not up to the job’ telling us lies and saying that our nimrod fleet in afghanistan is airworthy when our experts are saying it’s plain dangerous.

    I wonder where bob has gone off on holiday – and whether he will sleep soundly knowing that he has made certain that our young men in Afghanistan are going to die from poor equipment , lack of equipment and sheer lack of interest from this trash govermment.

    Enjoy walking your beach bob ( and gordon and mandy)- relax and chill out as our lads are getting killed in Afghanistan.

    • 189
      nell says:

      Time for bed. Prayer for the night –

      “Keep our brave lads in Afghanistan and Iraq safe.

      Please don’t let gordon, mandy or that bob person sleep comfortably.

      Please visit them with dreams of what it is like to be blown up by IED’s on forced foot patrol or thrown to your death by a collapsing rubbish russian helicopter or facing death in an exploding poorly maintained 40 year old nimrod”

      God Bless.

      • 214
        Sarah says:

        Amen.
        And God, please remove all thoughts of the Ashes from Gordon’s brain. This is the one bright spot in a very dismal summer.

        • 218
          Steve Expat says:

          He’s Scottish, and we all know how much they care about cricket and England. He probably wished Ricky Ponting all the best for the summer… ;-)

          Nighty night!

        • 235
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          G’ luck england – we wish you all you deserve from Bonnie Scotland :\

      • 236
        5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

        If you went into a church Nell the fooking roof would fall in! You say more than your prayers and you foooking whistle them!
        HAHAHaaa!!!

    • 215
      Steve Expat says:

      Can we arrange for Broon to spend some of his extended holidays being driven round Helmand in a “snatch” Landy?

      He asked the MoD if he could go there next week and they turned him down on security grounds according to the Times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6719361.ece

      The question is, was it the Afghans or the British troops that posed more of a danger to his safety??

    • 217
      Steve Expat says:

      My turn for the bloody mod again. I only suggested that when the MoD turned down Gordoom’s visit to the front line, was is because of the enemy or the risk of a “blue-on-blue” from some of our under-equipped forces out there?

  53. 192
    Adrian Prole says:

    You are wasting your time Nell. Our “government” is made up of ex-c0mmunist student activists who don’t give a damn about the principles of decent people. They may have joined the Labour Party, but their c0mmunist core values still drive their ambitions.

  54. 195
    Adrian Prole says:

    I’ve just been modded and can’t work out what word I used, to cause it.

    • 234
      5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

      maybe you inadvertantly said something favourable about the democratic process..watch out for that kinda mistake in future, GU1D0 don’t like it.

  55. 197
    Adrian Prole says:

    Bed time – night all.

  56. 203

    There’s some naive politics in here. At a time when the focus should be on solutions the Tory boys just wade in with whines and put downs. I’ve seen some procrastination in my life but, c’mon. If that’s where you’re mind’s at you’ll never be happy.

    I think, Labour should deploy Harriet Harman to Tory Central Office in the national interest. She can teach all the Tories how to relax and smile. Maybe, do a little yoga and ease their stress headaches.

    We need a Ministry of Happy Thoughts. Now, that would make the Tories hearts thump and their throats constrict in panic. Free ice cream, flowers, and annual holidays for pensioners by the seaside! Hah, that would put those scowlers in a flat spin.

    • 206
      You're my best pal, you are says:

      There’s just you and me left Charlie boy, and i’m pissed!
      What’s your excuse?

    • 317
      JMT says:

      Are you for real?

      Or an example of care in the community?

    • 677
      Budgie says:

      Presumably the “Ministry of Happy Thoughts” will be run on the same lines as the Ministry of Truth?

  57. 205
    Boris Carloffe says:

    I feel sorry that Gormless Brown our PM is not having a much longer holiday.

    Sorry for the British people that is.

    Couldn’t someone arrange for him to go to sleep like Rip Van Wincle.

    If only then he could wake up when he is too old and infirmed to do us further damage

    • 207
      Don Codeone says:

      We can arrange for him to sleep with the fishes.

      • 210
        freddie flintoff says:

        send brown back with the convicts 1-0 and the aussies look shit lad

        • 216
          Line and now short of a length says:

          Especially when you hit that one on the helmet.

        • 219
          freddie flintoff says:

          was good bowling lad eh

        • 222
          Line and now short of a length says:

          Some of us old ‘uns remember when a batsman went out with nothing more than a shirt and a lucky rabbits foot to face the likes of Holding, Garner, Roberts, Lillee and Thommo. Now they step on to the pitch padded up to the eyeballs, and above, and yet you can still put the fear of god into them with a sustained, aggressive, accurate spell of hostile bowling, that deserves a place on the board. And all with a grin and a word for the lad facing up. Oh for a microphone to pick up those exchanges after another 90mph missile thuds into his midriff. Are you asking him if he’s having as much fun as you?

        • 248
          An Aussie says:

          Freddie. Whats that in your pants – or are you just enjoying your bowling. Looks like a hard-on on the TV.

        • 293
          freddie flintoff says:

          hey was only my 3 rd 5 wicet haul and at lords was special

      • 693
        Anonymous says:

        Or a ‘heart attack’ halfway up Catbells? Boating ‘accident’? Hit by the blade of one of his eco wind turbines…

        The headlines… “The Prime Minister’s body was found in a gully 200 ft below from where he fell…” Bliss.

    • 225

      Man, I’m LOVIN’ this recession! Bring it on! O_O

  58. 221
    Jimmy says:

    “did not amuse Mrs Fawkes. ”

    Why would she be any different?

  59. 226
    Aiden o'fovit says:

    Enjoy your holiday,bud
    I’m just back from seeing the folks in Kilwinning,where I’m proud to be just about the only Tim allowed in the local Orange club,so,as they say where you’re off to……

    VIVE LA DIFFERENCE!!

  60. 228
    5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

    Oh, I’m a man alright Freddy, a better one than you’ll ever be. *spin* on it.

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  61. 232
    5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

    Hey Freddy (or izzit FreddIE)

    Come on down ya bassa – if you’ve got the balls.

  62. 233
    caesars wife says:

    Have nice holiday guido and family .

    CW is having a bit of trouble with Mcbride interview , it tells us nothing exciting , only that stern PM was so outraged he couldnt speak , you would have thought labour would not want to remind the public of what Gordon browns most senior press advisor got up to in his communiques with the now disperesed third way groups . i thought he made it look as though he was the isolated figure in the episode , as though it was he and he alone , which isnt anywhere near the truth .

    Although John Redwood didnt single out mcbride , he never the less offers a usefull summary in that Nu Labour is no more and if it was anything it was a media vehicle designed to discredit conservative goverment . he is right in that it has manfestly broken all of its sound money safeguards and distanced trade union links that won its 1997 election victory , Nu labour is a worthless brand on closer analysis , it has gone from reform to amphorous in 2 years flat.

    However it has been monday of a veritable labour smorgesboard , mcbride , purnell , lord sugar of clapshot , the rise of mandelson , the parading of open left , a vist to nissan ,swine flu is dangerous, and talk of a UK space centre you wouldnt think that the ecnomic outlook is putting darlings figures in some trouble . whilst the media went for MOD accounts problems from the ONS , other news from the ONS about the tax revenues black hole of a mere £32bn is only breaking today.

    Open left is perhaps Demos/purnells understanding of the revulsion of stalinist policy NWO that has been such a boom for the other parties .I cant say i was overly impressed as if james purnell was so keen on democracy why didnt he admit that the Lisbon treaty was labours biggest mistake in not letting the public decide . I sense james will be offering democracy on unimportant things , a sort of nice labour that ignores any real politics .
    Open left is going to be this and that as well , if you want petunias instead of marigolds in your local towns hanging baskets we will have a vote on it, but more stunning was his appeal to the gathered audience what they wanted left politics to be like !!
    it all reminded me of having treated the whole garden with weedkiller and having killed everything , “what do wanna plant oh i know we will suggest to you what will work ” .Cw noted that press conference lacked any financial ideas , so where the money will come from , is not really a question james wanted to ask .

    Cw admires james for at least , blowing a fuse with a bit of timing , but it could be seen as grovelling perhaps even worse conning people that the ecnomic horrors that brown and co are stacking up cannot be offset by cuddly socialsm tarted up as the liberal free thinking left . CW understands that the liberal left is what labour see as the future , perhaps the final destination and i look forward to having to suffer yet more celebrities being excited about roughing it in the useal bon amiee hugs and kisses in ther own disaters which they seem to like as reaching out to the audience or the more stalinist big brother which is voyerism dressed as the aquiesnce of self for externally imposed amoral goal .

    The left is perhaps realising it has made another huge mistake and trying to be born again , but the revulsion and doubts of the left wings idealogical errors is not just confined to the UK , other eurpean countries are finding that the high tax models may be unworkable .

    This tranistion phase of the left , may distract from the emerging right and labour are wanting to woo the Norwhich North voters , The ecnomic questions are still not being answered ,which is what backfired on labour last time , in the downturn personal savings interest is not contributing to the economy or pensions and the squeeze will continue when increases in taxation arrive .

    ken clark was right (but didnt pacakge it too well) The sick man of Europe has no vacciene better than sound money and low inflation , and sound money is only really gained in the wealth of a low tax economy , properly regulated . Increasing debts and national liabilities result in a paper tiger , or in labours case a media hologram .
    it was only only 2 weeks ago that former Pm John major hinted that we are on the verge of undoing all the pain we suffered in the 80s to get money back to being meaninful and goods tradeable , and i sensed that Ken too was trying to tell us that labours ecnomic policies , will be voyage of doom .
    i note Vince the cable was not happy with the denials anymore .

    I just have this dread feeling i my stomach , that labour have lost control of the economy , that we are being fed side show entertainment , whilst somthing in the ecnomic engine room is about annouce , its broke .

    As someone who believes that sound money benefits more people than state control , i can sense that the tories are getting sick of the descriptions of what is happening being peddled by labour . when byelection campaign mode and holidays have been had , i reckon the figures will prove , it was a mirage from 2002 onwards , and when the current spiv spin wears off there accuracy will be both justice and welcome relief .

    I somehow dont think labour are going to get away with it in the end

  63. 239
    5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

    When we all having parting in mind- let me share a quotation from a somewhat eccentric but dear old friend whim I miss dearly.

    “Excuse me sir
    is that a lump of coal in your pocket or are you just glad you’re wearing Steampants.”.

    Don’t worry if comprehension was not immediate for you, he was a complex personality :-(

    • 261
      5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

      Absolutely stunning, you ever thought about getting your comments published in the noddy books?

  64. 246
    Lizzie says:

    Very relaxing France, be careful Guido you don’t pass out altogether and miss something, the Rose may be stronger than you think. When you get back there will be the long awaited Labour party conference “night of the long knives” in the bars, the final attempt to get rid of McBroon. Will you be going to the conference Guido, or is there a “ban” on you? Have a great holiday.

    • 274
      F in France says:

      Holidays and not paying tax are relaxing.
      Anyone who actually lives in france might say “hey, new labour isnt that bad after all”.

      Don’t forget your dayglo vest in the car. l’etat nounou will have you otherwise.

  65. 250

    O/T but is anyone else aware of current Lloyds TSB policy – a bank owned 43% by us – to close accounts without notice and without discourse if they do not meet it’s criteria for acceptable levels of profitability. Both my daughter ( a student ) and my neighbour have lost access to banking facilities in recent days…. OUTRAGEOUS! Are any of the idiots who ” saved the banks ” actually telling them what we expect from them are is that £250bn just to be written off as collateral damage whilst troops die, services crumble and people are thrown onto the scrapheap that is GB ( and by that I mean Great Britain not the TUNC that is our unelected leader – splutter cough wheeze )

  66. 251
    • 320
      PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

      “Lord Mandelson confirmed that the Government would fund financial support for 10,000 extra students, including grants and tuition fee loans, but universities will get no extra cash for teaching. He said the additional places would only be for full-time undergraduate entrants to science, technology, engineering and maths courses, as they would give young people the skills they needed for the “jobs of the future”.”

      Ridiculous. Given the attrition of science departments in recent years, squeezing 10,000 bodies into the ones remaining would be akin to a magical illusion.

      And it’s a blind anyway. The numbers of students taking A levels in science subjects is in steady decline, so finding 10,000 with relevant A levels will be impossible. Add to that the fact that science A levels are so dumbed down that universities are doing remedial work now with students who get A grades. Gawd help my former colleagues if this tsunami of the ill-educated drops on their heads.

      • 618
        The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976 says:

        Tractor Stats, every day promise more and every day deliver less.

        If the proles catch on, change subject, draw a line in the sand, “lessons have been learned” etc, you know the drill by now surely?

  67. 253
    Right Bastard says:

    Woke up this morning and was pissed off because it’s pissing down. Might as well piss off and get pissed.

  68. 254
    nell says:

    The government released figures last night showing that tax revenues fell by £32billion last year – the worst since 1920 – just as gordon ran away on holiday so as not to be brought to task over this latest fiasco.

    I hope sarah doesn’t give him any pocket money on holiday – because he sure doesn’t know how to handle it.

    Morning Folks.

    • 277
      P1 says:

      With the Beeb abd Guardian giving ridiculous levels of coverage to the McBride nobody, and with Freddie beating the Aussies, it was obviously a tremendous day for a bit of bad news burying by Labour spinners. Apart from the tax take dropping (surely not a surprise to our hands on PM?), what’s this about departmnetal acounst not being signed off by the NAO because of “discrepancies”? Has anyone seen any more on this Euro-style book-keeping where the spending goes through the roof, but the numbers don’t get added up because it’s too embarassing?

      • 371
        nell says:

        The NAO refused to sign off the accounts of 6 Departments including The Treasury because of “concerns about massive levels of fraud, error and overpayment.”!!

  69. 255
    Anonymous says:

    Not very good news for Brown and his re-election strategy in to-days Times

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6721212.ece

    • 278
      McGroom says:

      Funny how Murdoch’s dead trees are coming down on Cameron’s side.

      How did that happen

      Let’s see if Brown can upset the Barclay Brothers over the summer to get the Telegraph back on side.

    • 286
      English Liberation Front says:

      And this:-

      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6721120.ece

      “A mountain of bad news was buried by the Government as it rushed out reports and 26 ministerial statements the day before MPs go on holiday. Whitehall sources said that many of the reports were ready to be published weeks ago, and would normally be released in stages, but ministers had insisted they all be delayed till yesterday.

      The dangerous state of the public finances was laid bare by the reports, which showed that the Government’s tax take plummeted by £32 billion last year. Figures from HM Revenue & Customs showed income tax, national insurance, VAT, stamp duty and corporation tax fell by £21 billion, while other debts and legal liabilities had cut income by a further £10 billion.

      The figures were disclosed as the National Audit Office (NAO) refused to sign off six sets of Whitehall accounts because of fraud, error, overpayments and IT problems. The accounts, covering billions of pounds, included the Ministry of Defence, the Treasury, the Revenue, the Department for Work and Pensions, the Home Office and the Equalities and Human Rights Commission. The Government also slipped out reports criticising its training programmes and announced delays in several policy areas.”

      Wonder what the national socialist trolls (Hardwank, Marcus “Wedgehead” Brigstocke) think about that. New Labour deceit and incompetence on a massive scale. Hard to make excuses for it but no doubt the deluded tossers will try – and accuse me of homophobic, racist, Little Englanderism for daring to mention it.

      • 599
        Pontius The Pilot says:

        Not that you’d know it from Toenail’s blog.

        All this happens and all he sees fit to report on is “Dave” on Major’s soapbox in Norwich…. big flamin’ deal…

        I have written to the BBC Trust demanding his removal as Political Editor as he is not fit for purpose. Poor quality and bias in abundance.

        The man is an arse.

      • 626
        The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976 says:

        “Wonder what the national socialist trolls (Hardwank, Marcus “Wedgehead” Brigstocke) think about that.”

        They will do what they always do, deny, deflect, change subject and then ignore. They are cowards at their core.

  70. 256
    nell says:

    Sorry just have to publish this from this morning’s guardian before I go :-

    “In addition to the 17 soldiers killed last week a further 157 (157!!!) were badly injured. ”

    Why is it that this government doesn’t even acknowledge wounded soldiers , apart from harassing and threatening them when they try to claim for support afterwards.

    Another of this government’s statistics.

    • 270
      Anonymous says:

      You must be delighted with the findings on social mobility published today. And what do we need to begin the long journey towards correcting this immoral inequality? My suggestion is that we elect more old Etonians.

      • 345
        Rip Van Winkle says:

        I suggest that we actually have a state EDUCATION system rather than a state re-reducation system as we have now.

        How about bringing the standard of education UP to that in the private education system. You might then see better social movement.

        Until then, though, I go back to sleep.

        • 353
          Anonymous says:

          How about ending the hierarchy of so-called education? You know, the one where vast swathes of people are condemned to second rate education because the biggest crime of all is to be born poor

        • 433
          Professor Dumbledore says:

          And how do you propose to do that? Shut down the private schools? I’d like to see you try.

        • 450
          Master Baiter says:

          How about removing Charity status? It’s a complete scam?
          Vast numbers of people at ‘private’ schools are there because they are too thick or disturbed to make it in a normal school.
          Many private schools massage their figures by various types of subterfuge.
          For example the thick set are made to sit their exams at an outside exam center so their appalling results don’t appear on the school’s record.
          They also hoover up top achieving GCSE students from surrounding state schools to improve the apparent university entrances. Private schools are for lazy or divorced/alcoholic parents or both.

        • 499
          Engineer says:

          What planet are you on, Master Baiter? Even by your standards, that post is ludicrous.

          All the league tables indicate very high levels of achievement across the private education sector; that’s why people are prepared to pay a high price to send their children to them.

          Do you have a huge chip on your shoulder, or do you actually believe the rubbish you post?

        • 506
          Pontius The Pilot says:

          440#

          “Vast numbers of people at ‘private’ schools are there because they are too thick or disturbed to make it in a normal school.”

          Riiiiight…. so, you’d include amongst that number Ms Harman, the children of the Blair family and Diane Abbott’s kid, would you? To name but a few Labour class warriors who are quite happy to send their kids to be privately educated but are more than happy to deny that right to others to reinforce their dogmatic bullshit.

          “Private schools are for lazy or divorced/alcoholic parents or both.”

          Yeah. Maybe, looking at those names above, you might be right….

          The filthy rich will always send their kids to private schools. There will always be a scummy underclass, no matter how much you lot try and engineer it out. The middle England you need to return you to 5 more years at the trough, the ones who ASPIRE to send their kids to private education will be the ones to lose out.

          Oh, not to mention those from disadvantaged backgrounds who have no alternative but the bog standard comprehensive, who would suddenly find more pupils being dumped on their schools because private education would no longer be available to them…

          I think the figure I saw the other day is that only 7% of kids are privately educated these days in the “charitable” schools you refer to. So, deny those kids a private education, force them into the arms of the state and then… are you saying that Labour would happily INCREASE the education budget by at least 7% to pay for it? At the expense of which other department, apart from the MoD, where you’re happily slaughtering your own servicemen through neglect?

          Its all dogmatic class war bollocks and in less than a year, we’ll be rid of it for another generation, thank fuck.

      • 367
        nell says:

        NewLabour has just spent 12 years trying to socially engineer upward mobility and what has it produced?? – a vast underclass content to live off the state and let their kids turn feral!

        The stark truth is upward mobility is down to the determination of an individual to better themselves.

        What the state can do is provide opportunities for that to happen and this labour crew haven’t done that.

        A previous Labour Government did with the founding of The Open University and I think I’m right in saying that a hundred thousand of us a year, in recent years, have studied through the OU.

        An individual has to be prepared to work hard for it – the state can’t legislate to make them.

        • 388
          Anonymous says:

          “The stark truth is upward mobility is down to the determination of an individual to better themselves.”

          You’ve really got to be a cretin to believe that. So don’t talk bollocks. You have not got a clue. Work harder my arse. What don’t you understand about social exclusion? What is difficult about grasping that fact the professions have always been about nepotism, cronyism and so on? The public schoolboys help their mates–and they go on and on helping them. Talent in this country is as irrelevant as having a strong work ethic.

        • 393
          Master Baiter says:

          Special hand shakes and rolled up trouser legs can help sometimes. As can various other permutations of hereditary professional closed shops, hence the poor incompetent level of British management.

        • 415
          Dr Feelgood says:

          Yet the socialists harrass the independent and entrepreneurial with punitive tax and burdensome red-tape. Labour aren’t just fighting a pointless class war, they are also fighting a war on free enterprise and personal liberty.

          Meanwhile, Labour aristocracy look after their own, and create their own dynasties:

          Mandelson
          Georgia Gould
          The Kinnocks
          The Benns
          Hariet Harman
          etc. etc. etc. All beneficiaries of family connections

        • 437
          no longer anonymous says:

          As a Mason I can confirm MB is talking bollocks.

        • 458
          backwoodsman says:

          Nell, they are actually beyond rational reasoning. I have men working for me who work hard, only get pissed at weekends and pay their mortgages. They all have family from the same social and educational background, who are unreliable, happy to breed for the child support and ‘do a bit on the side’ for cash.
          My engineers despise their relatives attitudes , which they are quick to point out is just that, a question of attitude.

        • 500
          nell says:

          I am sorry anonymous 380 – I can’t agree with you this time.

          What profession have you worked hard to get qualifications for and then couldn’t gain access to?

          We’re a large working class family of a widow who raised us by doing two menial jobs – one daytime and one evening. We all worked at the same time as we studied for our qualifications through night school or the OU.

          We’ve encouraged the next generation through Uni – and they’ve become, lawyer, quantity surveyor, engineer, paramedic, teachers.

          None of them have found their access into their chosen career blocked by public school educated people – that is just a childish Labour myth or an excuse for people who aren’t prepared to give their all to reach the goal they want.

        • 535
          Engineer says:

          Anonymous at 11-07am.

          Complete and utter rubbish. If you want something, you work for it. If at first you don’t succeed, try again. If you give up, you will fail. Success comes easily to some? – not in my experience. If you are good enough, and apply yourself, and treat others with honesty and integrity, you will succeed. If you go through life whinging and blaming others, you will achieve very little. Whatever you do, life is hard – some of us just accept the fact and get on with it.

    • 279
      P1 says:

      “Doctor” John Reid must be pleased with his insightful comment a few years ago that it was quite possible the Afghan thing would be over without a shot being fired. What a brilliant mind, and oh how we miss his sure feel for defence matters.

      • 312
        Anonymous says:

        When I warched the Afghan debate on Thursday last week there was a “strange” little exchange between Reid and Ainsworth over the exact wording of the good “Doctor’s” alleged comments. I can’t remember the exact wording(those interested can look it up in “Hansard”) but it seemed to me that the “Doctor” took umbrage with the sentiment and implications of what Ainsworth had said regarding these words in reply to an intervention from a Tory MP and rose to intervene whereupon Ainsworth said something along the lines that “My Right Honourable Friend is correct but I know what I heard him say” ????????????

        Ainsworth has an interesting soubriquet which he seemed to live up to in this weird exchange between ostensibly politicians on the same benches !!! Completely baffling somewhat similar to the government’s aims in Afghanistan

  71. 259
    5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

    Sorry for being such an obnoxious boring scottish bastard. Can’t wait to leave the UK though

    • 537
      5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

      Ehr, moron – Scottish independence KEEPS the UK with the Queen as the Head of State – gettit? The Queen, United Kingdom? *duh*

    • 595
      Pete says:

      Oh Good!

      Could I suggest Somalia?

  72. 260
    Swiss Bob says:

    If there’s any interest I am going to live chat Coulson in front of the select committee from about 10:30am this morning.

    Live Chat – Coulson before the Select Committee.

  73. 264
    • 342
      Steve Expat says:

      Interesting that that site reckons 3.4% of readers here are from South Korea, more than anywhere else except the UK!

      • 350
        Master Baiter says:

        As Boris Johnson would say ‘chicken feed’, good thing the Oaf GuidOrcs has a significant other in the legal profession, unfortunately the pips are squeaking with far fewer briefs to go around.

  74. 265
    Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

    How ironic. If Guido is going in French swimming pools, he’ll probably be forced to wear “unmentionably small swimwear”

  75. 271

    There’s some naive politics in here. At a time when the focus should be on solutions the Liebour boys just wade in with whips and shove-ups. I’ve seen some procrastination in my life but, c’mon. If that’s where you’re mind’s at you’ll never be happy.
    I think, Liebour should deploy Harriet(all men should be neutered at birth) Harperson to Lieboratory Central Office in the national interest. She can teach all the Liebour people how to relax and smile. Maybe, do a little yoga and ease their stress headaches and may be even turn them on, eh Peter?.
    We need a Ministry of Happy Thoughts. Now, that would make the Liebours hearts thump and their throats constrict in panic. Free ice cream, flowers, and annual holidays for pensioners by the seaside! Hah, that would put those prowlers in a spin dryer.

  76. 272
    Anonymous says:

    The BBC are the dependency junkies of the Broadcasting World. It is no surprise they are Pro Labour.

  77. 273
    McGroom says:

    It will be interesting to see the mood of the Labour back benchers at the party conference after a summer roasting by the great unwashed.

    Anyone who has an opportunity to speak their mind to any incumbent politician, of any colour over the recess should take full advantage and not hold back.

    Seeing as most “servants of the people” will avoid their constituencies like the plague, the French countryside seems to be the best place to find them.

    I suggest Brown visits Moral in Northern Spain followed by Compas in the French Pyrenees.

    • 284
      Longshanks says:

      Its unlikely they’ll receive a roasting. My mp has no surgeries until October, so he’s no intention of coming near the flame.

    • 311
      GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

      I was speaking to a Fireman yesterday Who was at a school where Ivan Lewis was for the local and eu’s the other week He said Lewis” shouted can i count on your vote lads?” To which he replyed You fucking robbing thieving bastard ! and went for him Only to be dragged back onto the fire engine by the watch officer Must have been a great lift for lie-bores chances !

  78. 275
    A Bystander says:

    Happy holidays Guido!

    Worth noting that the MEPs only get a month off too.

    • 280
      Question master says:

      A month off from what exactly? Can they still claim attendance-wedge?

  79. 276
    GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

    I for one know that my tax returns for this year will be down by 50% and everybody else i know is in the same boat This is all about survival now and FUCK Darling and McMental ! yes we will all be investigated by HRAC but they can’t tax what you haven’t earned !

  80. 282
    Longshanks says:

    Hope maison deuxieme is not near to any area where the growing summer sport of ‘youth’ rioting occurs. Its funny that the story receives no attention on the msm here and little in France apparently.

    • 331
      barefootcontessa says:

      The French are only interested in one thing, food food food food, and it has to be consumed at regular intervals, the times still probably, originally specified by that lovely lttle man Napoleon.

      • 479
        Engineer says:

        We keep hearing that the French are interested in at least one other thing…..

      • 582
        Longshanks says:

        I think you’ll find that its the msm that don’t want the French to take an interest in this subject , as it shows an unfavourable aspect of mass immigration – and to speak against the tenets of the eu is verboten. If the French knew the extent of the problem and the true source they would see the eu for what it is: a federal state that can exert power more easily over regions with diverse ethnic backgrounds and no true national identity.

        That is the function of mass immigration, and why we are discouraged from talking about in any negative way – why would you allow continued unfettered access to Britain for eample in a period of economic downturn, it does not bear logical scrutiny there one is denied free scrutiny.

        • 634
          The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976 says:

          Spot on, the Balkanisation of formerly homogeneous populations is essential for the EU to undermine the nation state.

          The destabilisation is happening throughout the entire EU and is as devisive and corrosive to national identity, wherever it is practiced.

          The EU is so determined to destroy national independence that it is willing and indeed encouraging, the breakdown of social cohesion everywhere and the implimentation of draconian laws, to implement their dream fascist dictatorship.

          Quite wickedly, national governments and their agencies are aiding and abetting, the cultural destruction of Europe, for EU gold.

  81. 287
    English Liberation Front says:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6721120.ece

    “A mountain of bad news was buried by the Government as it rushed out reports and 26 ministerial statements the day before MPs go on holiday. Whitehall sources said that many of the reports were ready to be published weeks ago, and would normally be released in stages, but ministers had insisted they all be delayed till yesterday.

    “The dangerous state of the public finances was laid bare by the reports, which showed that the Government’s tax take plummeted by £32 billion last year. Figures from HM Revenue & Customs showed income tax, national insurance, VAT, stamp duty and corporation tax fell by £21 billion, while other debts and legal liabilities had cut income by a further £10 billion.

    “The figures were disclosed as the National Audit Office (NAO) refused to sign off six sets of Whitehall accounts because of fraud, error, overpayments and IT problems. The accounts, covering billions of pounds, included the Ministry of Defence, the Treasury, the Revenue, the Department for Work and Pensions, the Home Office and the Equalities and Human Rights Commission. The Government also slipped out reports criticising its training programmes and announced delays in several policy areas.”

    Time to go Gordon, you useless bag of piss and wind.

    • 298
      freddie flintoff says:

      lad i been getting told on here for a while that we are fucked , so we know we are fucked and they know that we are fucked and they know that we know we are fucked , what a sorry state we have come to

    • 324
      Longshanks says:

      All this just as they’ve given back all the regulatory powers back to the ‘bank of England’ . Perhaps if they printed money with no debt associated with in the first place we’d get somewhere.

    • 354
      Steve Expat says:

      Only the second time in 300 years that the auditors refussed to sign the accounts – apparantly 24bn of the bank bailout didn’t have Parliamentary approval, surely that’s enough to force Broon out for cor.ruption?

      • 360
        freddie flintoff says:

        so this is bad really bad lad ?

        • 364
          Master Baiter says:

          No it’s far, far, worse than that.
          And it’s happened because of the over powerful financial industry’s incompetence and corruption.
          So much for let the market decide, basically.
          Welcome to a new era.
          Keep your eyes on China.

        • 413
          Steve Expat says:

          Freddie, it means we’re fucking fucked, yeah!

          MB, it happened because the regulatory system was not strong enough to control what the banks were doing – the bankers are not innocent victims but the regulatory regime was deliberately weakened over the past decade, in order to boost London’s standing in international markets.

        • 423
          Master Baiter says:

          Follow the commission payments

        • 477
          Engineer says:

          Whatever the rights and wrongs of the banking crisis (and I for one, am more inclined to agree with Steve Expat than Master Baiter), the dire state of the public finances and enormous public sector borrowing are entirely the responsibility of the present government, and cannot be laid at anybody else’s door.

        • 492
          Master Baiter says:

          The defect and accompanying corruption in the financial system has broken down the flow of credit.
          The credit function has ceased to work it is not operating. The effect of this cessation is to slow down economic activity. The slow down in economic activity has led to a reduction in government revenues. Consequently government expenditure exceeds government income, which means government borrowing has increased. If government spending is cut in the middle of a recession, as at present, the effect would be to further reduce economic activity and there would be a spiralling in the depth of the recession.
          In addition to these straight forward conditions the defect and accompanying corruption in the financial system has led to the need to inject the banking system with funds, the government is the only willing source of those funds which have had to be borrowed or created by the government.
          Many people cannot grasp these facts even though they are relatively straight forward. Many people also are intensely stupid.

        • 518
          Engineer says:

          The government had no need to throw eye-watering amounts of our money at failed banking businesses. They could have let the banks go bust, and help out the innocent victims afterwards. They chose to borrow, and must accept responsibility for that.

          The high levels of public sector borrowing developed before the banking crisis struck, leaving the country heavily indebted at the end of the boom; again, the responsibility lies solely with government.

          This government has, by any measure, mismanaged the economy to the point that Britain is in the highest levels of debt since WW2. There is no escaping that simple fact.

        • 548
          Steve Expat says:

          Every other major economy saved money during the good times. Except the UK.

          Every other major economy is now cutting taxes and increasing spending. We cannot do that because there is not only no money left, but also record borrowing – to the point where the IMF are likely to come knocking on the door over the summer.

          THAT’S how fucked we are!

        • 557
          Australian says:

          @MB: “Many people also are intensely stupid.”

          Indeed, MB. You demonstrate that admirably every time you post here.

        • 568
          Steve Expat says:

          MB, even the Beeb are reporting the bad news now…

          Total outstanding government debt in the UK has risen to a record £799bn, or 56.6% of UK GDP – the highest since records began in 1974.

          New borrowing in June was £13bn, almost twice as much as a year ago, the Office for National Statistics said, after the downturn shrank tax receipts.

          One economist described the state of the public finances as “dire”.

          http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8160614.stm

      • 573
        Longshanks says:

        The main problem is that a private institution ( B of E ) has control of a strategic state asset. The control of money supply is a dangerous tool for private money changers to have in their grasp. If you want to see what a good leader is look at the struggle that Andew Jackson had in removing the central banks fron the US in the eighteenth century. He actually managed to pay off the national debt after his victory over the central banks and gained control over the money supply. Unfortunately for the US this happy situation only lasted for another seventy years before the money changers got their fingers back in the till.

    • 355
      McGroom says:

      Civil servants must be in despair as they see their hard efforts turn to dust in this policy vacuum.

      New Labour delaying very bad news whilst doing nothing except spinning “it will be alright if we just keep spending” will just drive Whitehall mandarins to seek closer ties with the Tories.

      New Labour just don’t get it that if they told us the truth and stopped taking us for fools they might actuaklly improve their ratings. As Brown is pathologically unable to be straight, grass roots activists and back benchers will gather momentum over the summer to remove the Brown/Balls/Mandelson triumvirate at the party conference if they have enough courage. Failure to grasp the nettle and pull it out by the roots may consign the Labour to history for longer than their Maggie imposed exile.

      No one knows what Labour stands for anymore, but they do know that they have made an unholy, interferring mess of everything they have touched over the past 12 years.

      It is not about whether they will lose the next election, it is about the very survival of the party.

  82. 295
    GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

    O/T Does anyone else think that Jock Stirrup sounds like a Bondage Device ?

  83. 300
    Master Baiter says:

    Ireland is stuck in the bog.

    • 310
      Longshanks says:

      Wales is languishing in the bath

      • 327
        Andy Coulson says:

        The English are a shower.

        • 333
          barefootcontessa says:

          And the Scots, where are they? Still looking for the Loch Ness monster?

        • 351
          Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

          surely some sort of stereotype involving deep fried whisky iron bru, and heart disease.

          What about the isle of man-ers. Green jerseyed winners perhaps!

    • 313
      Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

      How politically incorrect. This is the second time you’ve been having a go at the irish jonty.

      • 322
        Master Baiter says:

        No it’s not having a go Ireland really is going down the pan.
        You see it’s a global economic crisis.
        Which started in America through the mechanism of a corrupt, defective and over powerful financial industry.
        Follow the commission payments.
        Ask Francis Maude MP (Con) the Chairman of a now bankrupt subprime mortgage originator.

      • 588
        Anonymous says:

        That’s because Jonty is a xenopobic little shit who thinks he knows it all, when in truth he knows nowt. He only believes in equal (i.e. some are more equal than others) rights for those of a non heterosexual status. If you’re straight, he hates you, if you’re straight AND foreign, god help you.

        In fact the only thing that could make you even more hated by this ignorant little twerp is having an education that involved any kind of payments being made to the institution you attended (shock horror!). Forget about the thosands of kids born into a modest background with parents who struggled to pay for their education because they have no faith in a state system that has been utterly fucked by left wing idiots. Forget about things like scholarships and burseries – in Jonty’s dim little world, only the children of multi millionaires attend private schools, and they are all evil and will eat your babies if you let them out of your line of sight for just a millisecond.

        The true face of young labour – bigoted, hate filled and thoroughly unpleasant. Oh, and also utterly thick and ill informed to boot.

  84. 304
    Andy Coulson says:

    Oi didn no nuffin abaht nuffin onest guv

  85. 306

    Mandelson is stuck with the brown smears

  86. 309

    roadpricing, ID cards, government spending cuts, council tax rebanding?

  87. 316

    Have a good holiday! :)

  88. 321
    Longshanks says:

    O/t but what happened to that poor teacher who finally snapped and walloped that lad, and was almost immediately charged with attempted murder. Its probably more likely he should be given a medal for putting up with twenty years of back-chat and cheek – poor fucker.

    • 334
      PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

      Sub judice. So we await the trial. But I admit I’m baffled by the charge of ‘attempted murder’ unless the teacher said he was trying to kill him. Surely GBH would be more appropriate….

      • 338
        Anonymous says:

        Alledgedly he said he was going to kill the boy as alledgedly he was bashing his skull in.

        • 564
          Longshanks says:

          It must have been the straw that broke the camel’s back – I notice there were little in the way of glowing references for the boy immediately after the incident, and that the attack was totally unjustified blah, blah blah.

  89. 325
    RavingMad says:

    Guido ….. GUIDO …….

    Has he gone yet….?

    OK

    All together now ….”Who wears short shorts?”

  90. 326
    GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

    The bog door at westminster has only just closed for the summer and already The Shit is starting to seep under it !

    • 330
      Anonymous says:

      I am presently reading “When the Lights went out” by Andy Beckett- an account of Britain in the 70’s – the last time Labour was in charge and there did seem to be quite a lot of government policy decided over the urinals of the Commons during those days!!

      • 335
        Master Baiter says:

        To reduce electricity consumption, and thus conserve coal stocks, a series of measures were announced on 13 December 1973 by Heath, including the “Three-Day Work Order”, more commonly known as the Three-Day Week, which was to come into force at midnight on 31 December.
        Heath in case for those who hadn’t realised it was a Conservitude Primp Minister

        • 343

          trying to clear up the unions and labours mess as usual.

        • 356
          Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

          Does 1973 sound like ancient history to you?
          In the books you read about this, did it say why the coal stocks were low?

          Are you hanging up your stockings on the wall?

        • 362
          Master Baiter says:

          The lights went out under the mismanagement of the Heath Conservitude Primp Ministership.
          Lesson over.

        • 368
          Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

          Nationalised industry, revolutionary in charge of the unions, who wasnt particularly interested in making the mines run properly, or the interests of the miners or communities.

          My My wee were all crazeee then.

        • 390
          Master Baiter says:

          Joe Gormley was head of the NUM at the time and was not a revolutionary. The British management class was spectacularly deluded and incompetent.
          Union power in Germany and France is substantial and yet those countries have maintained large manufacturing sectors. It is simply not credible to blame unions for the decline of British industry. It is the incompetence of British management. For this reason Nissan (which is owned by Renault) is one of the largest manufacturers as is Toyota.

        • 448
          Professor Dumbledore says:

          You really think Red Robbo going on strike all the time didn’t harm the British car industry? Are you insane?

      • 337
        barefootcontessa says:

        I am presently reading Sultans of Spin, Blair Campbell Mandelson, by N Jones. Then I have, The Taliban by Peter Marsden, and lastly for next week The French Revolution, W Doyle – A Short Introduction.

        • 558
          Engineer says:

          Think I prefer ‘Sultans of Swing’ by Dire Straits – oh dear, now I’m showing my age!

          (barefootcontessa – I know you’ll frown at me for typing that – but I will anyway!)

        • 655
          barefootcontessa says:

          I like the ‘Sultans of swing’ much better than the three spinners, the – BMC gang!.

    • 332
      ahem says:

      The shit is well lubricated with Mandlebums white slime.

    • 352
      Steve Expat says:

      I hope Mark Oaten doesn’t see that comment, he’ll get all horny!

      Anyway, let’s start with this shit from the Times today:

      stamp duty receipts dropped by £6.1 billion from 2007-08. Corporation tax take fell by £5 billion and VAT fell by £5 billion. Income tax and national insurance contributions dropped £5.7 billion, as the Government increased personal allowances to compensate those hit by the abolition of the 10p tax rate;

      So not only is spending out of control, income is also out of control the other way – Darling’s 175bn defecit this year is now looking wildly optimistic…

  91. 347
    Hazel Blears is a LIAR says:

    Where’s the cyclops taking his photo op this year,will we see him strutting his stuff in a business suit on the dancefloors of Ibiza??.

  92. 357
    Joanna Plumley says:

    Such is Brown’s fuckwittery he has difficulty hitting the water when he has a shit

  93. 361
    Anonymous says:

    So Cameron extends the “hand of friendship” to the Tory old guard. Yes, when elected the old guard will be back in , nothing will change. There is no will to change constitutionally, politically, or perish the thought, socially, in a country riven by chronic inequality. All the promises, gone. Well, only a twat would have believed them in the first place. Once an old Etonian always an old Etonian.

    Oh yes, let me get this in before you get on your hind legs: Brown and Labour are shite too as are Clegg and his crew. No wonder the young in this country are disillusioned.

    • 370
      Hazel Blears is a LIAR says:

      I’d love to see the Tory old guard make a comeback.We can then start to round up socialist fuckwipes and gas them like badgers!

      • 392
        Jolly Boating Weather says:

        Yes, Dave’s the man. The standards at Eton as the kind we as Britain’s should be proud of. First Boris, then Dave, if we play our cards right we can have the entire upper sixth running the country in a year or two. Altogether now:

        Jolly boating weather,
        And a hay harvest breeze,
        Blade on the feather,
        Shade off the trees,
        Swing swing together,
        With your bodies between your knees,
        Swing swing together,
        With your bodies between your knees.

        2.
        Rugby may be more clever,
        Harrow may make more row,
        But we’ll row for ever,
        Steady from stroke to bow,
        And nothing in life shall sever,
        The chain that is round us now,
        And nothing in life shall sever,
        The chain that is round us now.

        3.
        Others will fill our places,
        Dressed in the old light blue,
        We’ll recollect our races,
        We’ll to the flag be true,
        And youth will be still in our faces,
        When we cheer for an Eton crew,
        And youth will be still in our faces,
        When we cheer for an Eton crew.

        4.
        Twenty years hence this weather,
        May tempt us from office stools,
        We may be slow on the feather,
        And seem to the boys old fools,
        But we’ll still swing together,
        And swear by the best of schools,
        But we’ll still swing together,
        And swear by the best of schools.

    • 484

      the politics of envy, thus it has always been and always will be. Now if the English ever felt like working or even working real hard then they really would be able to achieve. Youngsters today want and get everything on a plate. Come out of university with a £20k bebt at the age of 25 and moan to every one that they can’t afford a house1 The only problem is that because of liebour, they really know any differnet!

      • 506
        Charles E Hardwidges anus says:

        Not true! my 5 year old son is being taught gay anal sex,this should set him good stead for the future.

  94. 363
    Steve Expat says:

    Is the penny finally dropping with the general public??

    Populus poll in the Times today reckons that 80% of voters believe that public spending will fall no matter who is elected

    28% of voters trusted Labour to make cuts, 38% the Tories and 25% neither party.

    50% of voters expect a Tory govt after the election, only 15% Labour.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6721212.ece

    • 372
      Anonymous says:

      Why do you bother with this shit? I mean, what’s the point? It must be some kind of pathalogical obsession with you people. Who gives a monkey’s, frankly? Most of the country hate all of the apes in parliament, labour, tory, liberal. It matters not a jot what party they are with: they vast majority have been proven lying, cheating hounds. Do you sincerely expect anyone to retain any confidence in these hoons or the system they fight so bitterly to protect?

      • 435
        Engineer says:

        Fair comment; many (not all) MPs have fallen victim to their baser human instincts. Arguably, they have forfitted the right to represent their constituents, and no doubt their constituents will take this into account next time they get a chance to vote.

        We can probably agree that the present party of government has overstayed it’s welcome. Many would say that it has demonstrated incompetence, and tried to deceive the public, and will probably not be re-elected.

        So now we have a choice – whom do we elect? How can Britain best be governed, and who seems the most likely to address the country’s problems, and act in the best interests of the general population?

        That’s the debate. That’s the question many of us are trying to answer for ourselves. That’s why we bother – because we care about our country, about the people who live in it, and about the way it is governed on our behalf.

        • 457
          PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

          Well said.

          And this is something these NuLab trolls just don’t get about this blog. They see anti-Labour sentiment and, in their binocular world view, assume pro-Tory. Obviously there are Tories here, but there are also plenty of folk who look on the works of our mighty Parliament and despair. And some folk fall into both categories.

        • 502
          barefootcontessa says:

          Both the above comments are sadly optimistic. The human animal suffers from it’s instinct. Only the well adjusted, well educated, (on the whole), can make dispassionate, good judgments that are devoid of emotion and prejudice.

          The human animal and power don’t go together well. A loving mother and father of course helps.

        • 581
          Steve Expat says:

          Good comment PT. Yes most people here hate the current govt, doesn’t mean we’re all card-carrying Tories though as the trolls would think.

          I’m personally still not 100% convinced by Cameron, but thinking realistically he is the best chance we have to kick out the current lot, who have completely fucked up our once-great economy. I think Hague would actually be a better PM than DC, he is a much better speaker and has been responsible for a lot of the current Tory policy.

          There is now an almost universal acceptance that government spending must be reduced to a level commensurate with tax receipts. The last two governments have both screwed up in the third term (remember the poll tax?), maybe we should change the rules so that a PM must stand down after two terms of office, as happens elsewhere in the world?

  95. 369
    Anonymous says:

    Can anyone confirm that Michael White’s salary at The Grauniad is £182, 000? Any bios of the great man around on the web?

  96. 374
    I accept full responsibility, that's why I sacked the person responsible says:

    If you live anywhere near La Palmyre/Royan, stop by for a glass of Cognac.

    Regards,

    Tom

  97. 375
    Text Pistols says:

    its a swindle

  98. 376
    Andrew Strauss 'straight as die' says:

    So the scum infesting Britain have frigged the last half-trustworthy official economic stat. Having fucked the inflation and unemployment stats the embarassing borrowing figure had to nobbled:

    UK Government borrowing for June £2.5bn less than forecast.

    http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=206

    £13bn net borrowing compared to £15.5bn expected.

    so how did the scum do it?

    • 378
      Andrew Strauss 'diamond cockney geezer' says:

      well, the amount spent on ‘interest’ went from £2.5bn in June last year to $0.6bn in June this year. But total borrowing has gone up, so interest payment on the accumulated national debt must have gone up too, not down?

      the fucking toerag scum and their lackeys in the civil service, only following orders, want lynching for corruption, treason and generally being non-human filth.

    • 590
      Steve Expat says:

      More important is that the June 2009 figure was 13bn, the June 2008 figure was 7.5bn, which represents a 73% year-on-year increase

      “Better than expected” is just bollocks, Darling’s 175bn for the year is looking very optimistic, the May figure was 20bn, remember?

      Lies, damn lies and statistics – it’s all in the presentation.

  99. 377

    I remain convinced that Labour are more clearly than ever the best placed party for government as mere cost cutting and sacking workers is a recipe for disaster. The last time that was tried it stripped the fat off Britain and bit deeply into the muscle. Now that we’ve only just recovered this far more Thatcherism will be have us gnawing on the bone. Well, no. That’s just depressing and recessionary. Really, the best thing the Tories can do is accept the need for consensus and regain some stature by helping persuade the CBI to get on board the government’s plan and continue rehabilitating their own party so it’s relevant in a changed world.

    • 381
      Lord W. says:

      Chas,

      Do you think Postman Pat would be the best person to lead this party you dream of?
      Or his green and white cat?

    • 383
      freddie flintoff says:

      is there a dr in the house lads ?

    • 385
      Walter Bigun says:

      Charles you should start preparing for opposition or worse. Think about getting a proper day job now before the queues get too long

    • 386
      Master Baiter says:

      God, you even manage to bore a pimply bumsausage like me Hardcheese.

      Get some medical help, Ive just started on the lithium!

    • 389

      Cameron doesn’t have any insight or stamina. That’s pretty much crucified him at a time when people need to be looking ahead of the curve in a tough situation. Being ‘hard’ isn’t everything. A little dose of patience and humanity would do him and his party some good.

      Dharma dharma dharma chameleon…

      • 403
        Basket Case says:

        Jeez Chuckie…you are an interminable bore.

        Do you ever piss yourself off with your boredom?

      • 422
        Charles E Hardofthinking says:

        I assume you’ve been living inside Dave’s colon to purport to know him so well.

    • 452
      JMT says:

      The world is changing – bye bye Labour.

  100. 379
    Master Baiter says:

    I am lickspittle’s lickspittle. Writing propaganda for McBustedflush.
    Please someone put me out of my misery.
    Mwwwahh… Boooohooooooooo

  101. 380
    nell says:

    Another piece of bad news slipped out this morning as parliamentary holidays commence:-

    Labour’s spin bill rose by 43% last year to £540million.

    MP’s from the other parties accused gordon of using hard-pressed taxpayers money to peddle propaganda and try to win votes in the run up to the GE.

    Didn’t gordon say he was going to cut spin when he first came into office? Another of his lies then.

    • 384
      freddie flintoff says:

      but gordon always tells the truth or thats what he said

    • 387

      That’s a non-issue. Look at the bigger picture. My view is that if you take an interest in people and look after them, they tend to give their best and will make sacrifices when they have to. Labour know this.

      I’ve always admired Silicon Valley and Japanese business practice, and if the government can use this crisis as a platform to go MACH 1, I think, that will do a lot to turn Britain around.

      “Things can only get buddah”………

      • 405
        Basket Case says:

        I suspect that the closest you’ve ever been to Japanese business practice is a Nintendo DS game.

      • 509
        barefootcontessa says:

        How the hell do you dream this stuff up Charles (or whatever your name is?) I’ve never read such badly written, unadulterated rubbish in all my life! You certainly put newlabour in the worst possible light!

      • 613
        Groucho says:

        You haven’t got the foggiest, have you?

        What has private VC funded entrepreneurial Silicon Valley got to do with Brown’s ‘investment’ in hundreds of thousands of public sector non-jobs?

  102. 382
    Send Gordon to the tower says:

    There’s fuck all happening anyway.

  103. 391
    Mrs. G. Brown says:

    Let’s hope we don’t have to see any pictures of Cherie’s body on the beach!

    • 695
      Susie says:

      If you mean in a lifeless, washed up kind of way… personally I can’t wait.

  104. 394
    Charles E Hardwidge says:

    As the mist clears from the Conservative wasteland of the Thatcher years the revealed golden truth of New Labours success in rolling back the anti humanist tendencies of the Conservative Party are there for all who will see.

    All is well.

    • 408
      Basket Case says:

      Yawn….

    • 418
      Engineer says:

      If the current state of the British economy, educational attainment, defence policy and strategy, etc, etc, is the result of New Labour ’success’, then God help us all when they fail…..

    • 432
      JMT says:

      After 12 years of Labour I would rather have a Thatcher wasteland.

      Much bettter than the anti humanist tendencies of Labour, the Greens and their fellow travellors.

    • 439

      As the mist clears from the Liebour wasteland of the Brown/Blair/Mandelson years the revealed golden truth of the Conservatives in rolling back the anti humanist stalinest tendencies of the Liebour Party are there for all who will see.

      All is well. Not long now. La La

    • 683
      Budgie says:

      There are 1 million fewer jobs in manufacturing under ZaNu Liebore than the supposed “wasteland” left by the Tories.

  105. 395
    Shitorama says:

    OT

    Hitler receives some bad news

    • 428
      Sir William Waad says:

      This idea has been done to death. I hope this posirively our last YouTube demand in Europe.

    • 515
      barefootcontessa says:

      Is that Balls shouting at us from his holiday resort?

  106. 397
    Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

    Time is an abstract concept and only exists to stop everything happening at once.

    The time line for the next GE is not important – as each day passes Cameron gets weaker through exposure to the electorate as Gordon gets stronger via the same process.

    The rising shrill panic in Conservative circles comes from a profound sense of what they lack to lead the country and what Gordon has in abundance.

    Accept your limitations, but do not dwell on them – Labour will protect you from yourselves.

    All is well.

    • 410
      Basket Case says:

      ..ZZZZZZZZZ…….

    • 417
      PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

      Will Labour protect me from the crack-addicted thugs who live on my street?

    • 424

      do you want the tellie tubbies or postman pat on?

    • 436
      Charles E Hardofthinking says:

      Cock

    • 442

      Time is an abstract concept and only exists to stop everything happening at once.

      The time line for the next GE is not important – as each day passes Liebour gets weaker through exposure to the electorate as Cameron gets stronger via the same process.

      The rising shrill panic in Liebour circles comes from a profound sense of what they lack to lead the country and what David has in abundance.

      Accept your limitations, but do not dwell on them – Conservatives will protect you from yourselves.

      All is well. Po

    • 453
      Charles E Hardon says:

      I’m impressed! how do you manage to think up so much shit?.

    • 591
      Steve Expat says:

      Charles, you really are living on cloud cookoo land with statements about Broon’s popularity rising. He’s the most unpopular PM since Callaghan had to be bailed out by the IMF – and the smart money is on history repeating itself in the next few months…

  107. 402
    McGroom says:

    As MP desert Westminster, civil servants must be in despair as they see their hard efforts turn to dust in this policy vacuum.

    New Labour delaying very bad news whilst doing nothing except spinning “it will be alright if we just keep spending” will just drive Whitehall mandarins to seek closer ties with the Tories.

    New Labour just don’t get it that if they told us the truth and stopped taking us for fools they might actually improve their ratings. As Brown is pathologically unable to be straight, grass roots activists and back benchers will gather momentum over the summer to remove the Brown/Balls/Mandelson triumvirate at the party conference if they have enough courage. Failure to grasp the nettle and pull it out by the roots may consign the Labour to history for longer than their Maggie imposed exile.

    No one knows what Labour stands for anymore, but they do know that they have made an unholy, interferring mess of everything they have touched over the past 12 years.

    It is not about whether they will lose the next election, it is about the very survival of the party.

  108. 404
    Gordon Brown says:

    Good news, Brothers and Sisters. Thanks to Damian, the Labour Party (with the help of the Ministry of Truth) released certain information that the public would get angry about. Thanks to our media outlets at the Guardian and the BBC these pieces of news went out without comment. For their help, extra choco-rations will be sent to the Political teams.

    Semen Production may be down in August due to an overspend on our Asylum policies. An increase in HIV-infected asylum seekers has rendered them useless for semen production duties. However, with the rise in unemployment made possible by the Party’s economic policies, white middle-class workers have more time to produce the necessary amounts of manjuice. However, the positive discrimination policy of non-white semen producers must still be enforced until all are equal in the eyes of the Party.

    Cumbria has been placed on full alert for my upcoming holiday. Scenes of locals fleeing the county in panic are untruths spread by the forces of Eurasia. I have promised to wish Cumbria good luck and look forward to my meeting with Peter Rabbit and Mrs Tiggywinkle.

    My wife, Big Sister Sarah Brown, has invited her good friends, Naomi Campbell and Paris Hilton to stay. I look forward to hearing their views on the world so I may implement them into Party Policy. The unelected Sir Alan Sugar has also convinced me that the future of British communications lies in the Amstrad Emailer. There will be an Amstrad Tax introduced to allow one in each and every home. Rumours that each conversation will be recorded is an untruth from Oceania.

    Raise your Victory Gin for the ten-minute hate. Cue picture of David Cameron-Goldstein.

  109. 431
    Sir William Waad says:

    A banker goes into a pub and orders a drink. “I’m sorry” says the barman. “We’ve run out of beer. In fact, we have no drinks of any kind whatever. That will be £500 billion, please.”

  110. 438
    Newlabourreallydimsupporter says:

    oh hello

    is this the helpdesk?

    I hope I’m in the right place … huh

    I’ve just washed my hands … does that mean I won’t get swine flu now?

  111. 440

    My general view remains that developing a more positive business vision, developing staff loyalty, and taking a longer-term issue to finance is key to both getting through this difficulty and fixing Britain’s broken economic fundamentals. Issues such as management listening to their staff and allowing them to perform, and retaining staff and having fair employment conditions, and a little more shared reality on finance will help cherry pick the best practices of top American and Japanese business practice instead of the backwards approach that’s the default today. The pay-off is an industrial powerhouse instead of sliding of the edge of the continental shelf with shame.

    As usual, I’m way ahead of the curve.

    • 447
    • 461
      Charles E Hardon says:

      As usual,your full of nonsensical shit!

    • 471
      incandescent-with-rage says:

      A lot of businesses are struggling to keep their heads above water, let alone look after their staff and make sure they are happy in their work. This costs money which a lot of businesses don’t have, hence all the redundancies.

      You clearly have no concept of unemployment so you really need to get your “general view” into the real world and see how a lot of people are forced to live on next to nothing. It’s not pleasant.

      You think you’re way ahead of the curve? You’re so far back you’re not even behind it.

  112. 446
    Neil Craig says:

    Be fair to Ireland – They have a 9% downturn whereas we have a mere 4%. Howeverver we have artificially achieved this by borrowing 12.5% of GNP which we are going to have to pay for some day. They haven’t. Anybody want to bet me that we will be back into significant growth before them?

  113. 455

    I was admitted to hopital the other day with a rather embarrassing problem. I had the hoover nozzle stuck up my backside.

    I’m out of intensive care now and doctors say I’m picking up nicely now.

  114. 456
    Rexel 56 says:

    Coulson on

    • 460
      Master Baiter says:

      Tom Watson on the panel

      • 462
        Rexel 56 says:

        Camera angle saving us from suffering as a result.

      • 464
        The Wasp says:

        Tom Watson won’t fit on my widescreen TV. I hear the lunch break is 1pm-6pm so Tom won’t get hungry.

      • 465
        Rexel 56 says:

        On no, there he is, a fine specimin of parliamentary rectitude. Shame about the braces.

      • 494
        Trough Mixture. says:

        Just got back – did I miss ‘owt? Watson’s index finger is resting in a suspicious manner upon the philtrum. Suggests nostril mining as practised to extremes by his master. Isn’t there Cow Pie for lunch?

      • 503
        Question master says:

        Watson dived out just before Coulson came on – I think he went either to blog, tweet, sign-off some exes, elevenses or a “comfort break”. All excellent uses of expensive parliamentary time of course.

        Why does he wear braces? Is it it hold him into his chair when he nods off?

  115. 459

    Gordon Brown is the architect of ’soft power’ and ‘fair trade’ which is an effort to supplant the militarism and transnational corporatism which has helped cause so much destruction and poverty.

    The Tao teaches that influence extends from the self outwards, so better focus and sensitivity in the self spreads out like the ripples created by a small pebble being thrown into a pond. More calm increases happiness. More happiness increases kindness and, maybe, a nicer policy.

    • 475
      incandescent-with-rage says:

      Charles. You said…..

      Gordon Brown is the architect of ’soft power’ and ‘fair trade’ which is an effort to supplant the militarism and transnational corporatism which has helped cause so much destruction and poverty.

      So he’s seriously under-equipping our troops in Afghanistan to make up for it, then.

    • 490

      do u like budda on your bread?

    • 528
      Basket Case says:

      “The Tao teaches that influence extends from the self outwards….”

      …a bit like your shit then Charlie m’boy..

  116. 470
    Charles E Hardwidges anus says:

    Gordon Brown is the architect of ’high taxes’ and ‘unfair regulation’ which has helped cause so much destruction and poverty.

    The Tao teaches that influence extends from the self outwards, so better focus and sensitivity in the self spreads out like the ripples created by a small pebble being thrown into a pond.More tax increases can increase the amount of wheelie bin inspectors to swell the job creation figures and, maybe, a new angle to spin.

  117. 478
  118. 480
    The Wasp says:

    I see the BBC has bolloxed Sarah Kennedy for saying that Enoch Powell was the best Prime Minister the country never had.

    How dare she praise any politician that does not belong to the Labour Party. Why she wasn’t sent to the Afghan Front Line for her thought-crime I don’t know! Polly Toynbee is ready to take her place on BBC 2 once Labour lose the next election. Best get those champagne socialists into position quickly!

    Perhaps Gordon Brown can say a little prayer for Sarah when he next appears on Songs of Praise.

    • 523
      barefootcontessa says:

      He was certainly the best educated. A Milburn selling his equality crap to the press with the gorgon at his side using really strange ‘clerical’ hand movements. Is this all part of, with purnell, promotion of the new face of newlabour …. newnewlabour?

  119. 481

    Libra and my name is Charles
    Now I like a woman that’s quiet
    A woman who carries herself like Miss Universe
    Mmm take my hand
    Come with me baby, to Love Land
    Let me show you how sweet it could be
    Sharing loving with me
    I want you to go

    Float, float on (Girl, yes)
    Float on, float on (With Charles)
    Float, float, float on (Ooh, yeah)
    Float on, float on

  120. 487

    My wife, is unhappy with my mood swings

    She bought me one of these mood rings so she could monitor my mood.

    We discovered that, when I am in a good mood, it turns green

    When I am in a bad mood,

    it leaves a big fucking red mark on her forehead.

    • 521
      PT Barnum (Ex-Labour Party Member) says:

      Definitely an imposter. Hardwidge with a wife, ffs?! Maybe a blow-up one, I suppose.

  121. 488
    Gregg says:

    work it out with a pencil

  122. 491

    Nobody ever listens. They know better and the prospect of belt tightening chews them up inside, so they thrash and scream even more. Every time they do this they slide further down the well of misery. You’d think folks would get a clue and just let go, calm down, and be happy. But, they’re clever and think they’re smart. It can’t be that easy.

    Just another day in hell. Enjoy your stay. :-)

    • 512

      Nobody ever listens. Yes they do

      They know better and the prospect of belt tightening chews them up inside, but only if they tighten it so much you cant breath.

      so they thrash and scream even more, just like in an alfred hitchcock horror movie.

      Every time they do this they slide further down the well of misery, but good job I remembered to put a ladder in it so I could get out.

      You’d think folks would get a clue, I did, 1 down and 2 across, finished it in 5 minutes

      and just let go, calm down,calm down, calm down and be happy, but why not sleepy, bashful or dopey?.

      But, they’re clever and think they’re smart just like one of those green emmission cars made by mercedes.

      It can’t be that easy, nothing is, thats why if you work hard, then you get your rewards.

      Just another day in hell especially if you go to Jaywick.
      Enjoy your stay, have a nice day now. :-)

      Time for teletubbies.

  123. 501

    some good evidence against gerrard in his trial by the prosecution.

    but is any one from loverpool really going to convict gerrard?

    i think not

  124. 504
    Anonymous says:

    A very pleasant day on here today, do you not think?

  125. 510
    Gregg says:

    The periodic symbol for the newly discovered element Gordinium is WR

    It has strange properties including the ability to dissolve gold

  126. 517
    Lil Olmey says:

    Funny how the Japanese can have an election but we can’t :
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6721547.ece
    I accidentally heard this reported on Al Jabeeba as well. The ruling party was described as deeply unpopular. Strange, then, that Al Jabeeba failed to note the parallels with what’s going on here in the UK.
    At least the Japanese lot will come out of it with a few shreds of honour remaining.

  127. 522
    stating the obvious says:

    stop women from working

    all problems solved, global warming, economy, social breakdown, no downside

  128. 524
    AnonyMousse says:

    compare and contrast

    1. the bbc giving damien mcbride free air time to claim he’s a reformed character following the smeargate scandal – which was never the beneficiary of a parliamentary committee inquisition

    and

    2. andy coulson before a parliamentary committee being question about the spurious argument of phone tapping live on bbc news24

    in both cases the bbc is playing the government’s game – not the way i want my tv tax spendng

    purely medacious journalism

    • 569
      Moley says:

      What is so disturbing about the BBC is that their bias has become completely blatant and unashamed.

      Their attitude is that they are so powerful and influential that can do what they want.

      There has been a revolution and the radio station has taken over the Government.

      • 620
        Anonymous says:

        and we just lay down and have our tummy tickled; when are we going to bite back?

      • 622
        Abolish the Licence Fee says:

        Yes, but the truth is they can do what they want! Successive governments of whatever stripe have been singularly unable to reform the Corporation. It is beyond reform and needs to be broken up.

    • 598
      Steve Expat says:

      This whole story seems more and more like a McBride/Grauniad/BBC smear campaign on Coulson with no truth at all to back it up.

      Coulson was good today in front of the cttee, he had done his homework and managed to answer about his time at the NoTW while deflecting the personal questions. DC was right to back him.

      • 636
        Chartered Accountant says:

        No, Coulson was very poor, but the questioning was feeble: ‘I’m the just the boss, so why should anyone expect me to know what my staff were doing?’ Not a good defence at Nuremburg and not a good one now.

        He’s just like Alistair Campbell. Blair should have been ashamed to employ such a scumbag. And David Cameron should be ashamed to employ Coulson.

  129. 540

    The Turbo-Tories around here can’t even read words on a page properly. No lie is too big, and no blow is too low for you folks that you don’t even know when to stop.

    My impression is that the Labour government has more going for it than anything the opposition have to offer, and don’t see why they should give way just because a bunch of thugs are shaking the bars of the cage.

  130. 543
  131. 547
    I never briefed that darling was for the chop, Tom Bradby, I'm honest Gordon says:

    Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.

    Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.

    Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.

    Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.

    Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations.

    But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.

  132. 553
    Porky Pies MP says:

    Just heard that we are now over £800 BILLION in debt (continually increasing) and that 56% of the gross domestic product is DEBT. What an appalling indictment on Brown and his government. Future generations will be in hock for many years to come, that’s if we’re not bankrupt first. £800 Billion! – for fuck’s sake !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  133. 554
    Anonymous says:

    Did you know that there are no “Wongs” in the chinese telephone directory?

    That’s because there are too many wings and too many wongs and some one might wing the wong number

  134. 555
    Porky Pies MP says:

    I wish Guido would sort out this website – it’s all over the place with early numbered postings appearing last etc. Surely there’s a better system than this!

  135. 563
    Charles_E_Hardwidge. says:

    Anglo Saxons.

    Is there ever a group of people more lost and in need of direction, leadership and spirituality?

    Only The Labour Party and the Tao can deliver some peace to this unfortunate body of humanity.

    Please, you will all be saved whether you want to be or not, because The Labour Party cares for you all.

    It is not enough that you are just accepting of the changes to the fiscal model of the world bought about by socially progressive leaders – you will need to be a demonstrable and willing cog in the future solution.

    All is well. Ssssshhhhhhhhh.

    • 567

      telly tubbies or postman pat for change this time?

    • 580
      incandescent-with-rage says:

      Charles. Why do you live here? It never ceases to amaze me. You whine and complain about the british people, yet you are an immigrant yourself. If it’s that bad, just pack up and go home. Simples.

      • 603
        What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

        Hardwidge wants the next Tory government to give him repatriation money to leave. It must be true, he said it on LabourList. And he said he was tempted to vote Tory to make it happen.

        What’s that biblical verse about an ungrateful child?

  136. 566
    Charles E Hardwidge's amazing talking anus says:

    paaAAAAARRRRRRP!

    a rough translation:

    The Turbo-Tories around here can’t even read words on a page properly. No lie is too big, and no blow is too low for you folks that you don’t even know when to stop.

    My impression is that the Labour government has more going for it than anything the opposition have to offer, and don’t see why they should give way just because a bunch of thugs are shaking the bars of the cage.

    • 572

      sorry but i dont do impressions only vocals.

      telly tubbies dear boy?

      When children are asked why they like Teletubbies they often say because it is funny but adults also get a lot of pleasure out it. Visual antics like jumping in puddles and playing hide and seek are reinforced by a range of sounds that also get tinies and toddlers rolling in the aisles as well as very emminent buddhists and zen masters.

  137. 570
    Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

    I have long held the view,and have generally tended to use it in my award winning articles on Judge Dredd,that one can identify a persons true character by their written word.

    This is why I am ahead of the curve in all subjects,particularly highlighted when I invented graphics fidelity.

    The important thing in life is to speak the truth,as Zen and the Tao teach that this is the way to eternal enlightenment.

    Whilst I do not debate,I relish the reactions of others to my astonishing intellect,as it is only my devotion to speaking the truth that will ever enlighten those that do not believe.

    Take the following exquisite quote of mine from that tabernacle of learning “Photography Forum”….

    ” I’ve stopped watching broadcast TV, don’t read the media, and don’t vote
    for similar reasons.”

    …Charles E Hardwidge 21/6/2009.

    So there you have it…the truth of my very existence.

    • 575

      you not even have mass debates? like master baitor?

      how sad, do you not get any human pleasures?

      you can always vist telly tubbies?

    • 583
      incandescent-with-rage says:

      If you don’t bother to vote – just shut up. You have plenty to say about the way in which our country is run, yet you don’t bother to vote. Is it because you aren’t eligible, or just that you can’t be arsed?

      • 604
        What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

        Not only does he not vote, he’s not even registered to vote.

  138. 574

    The way I see it is you’ve bought into cynicsm and are seduced by a bunch of online pals. You’re stuck with this image of reality and can’t see over the curve of depression and manipulation so, to you, this is reality. But, this “reality” is just so much ego feeding the wheel of misery.

    As for the Boris Johnson style attention seeking and dragging everything down, I’m more disappointed that people can’t appreciate something better and are so unsociable. But, that’s there choice. I’m not getting sucked in by or down by that as, I think, developing maturity is more important.

    You’ll discover this in your own time.

    • 576

      For over 27 years Postman Pat has delivered enchanting entertainment to the delight of young children around the world. In his new series Postman Pat Special Delivery Service (SDS), everyone’s favourite postman delivers more than ever!

    • 579
      Charles E Fuckwitted says:

      I believe in your shit so much Charlie that i’m thinking of becoming a bhudist or do i mean nazi.

    • 589
      loreal, because you're worth it charlie says:

  139. 577
    Pluperfect Subjunctive says:

    Norwich North by-election. The Labour candidate Chris Ostrowski is reported to have swine flu. Did Gordon wish him luck?

  140. 578
    The Wasp says:

    Surely a test for stupidity should be called the “I voted Labour” test?

  141. 586
    Hugh Janus says:

    Just heard the Beeb introduce Milburn as “independent” in relation to his silly little report about life chances or some such rubbish. Independent????? He was so far up Bliar’s arse only the soles of his expensive shoes were visible. He may have stood down (again) recently but in God’s name how does this make an ex-Nuliebour minister under a NuLiebour government INDEPENDENT??

  142. 592

    I’ve been going out of my way to focus on content and let things go. So, you can stop the hysteria cuz it ain’t working.

    Anyway, I figure, if I didn’t have anything worth saying some of you guys wouldn’t be screaming. You’ve tried copying my material. That didn’t work. Now, you’re trying black propaganda. That’s not working either. This should tell you something.

    Jeez, and you wonder why Gordon’s happy.

    • 600
      Basket Case says:

      I think it is working Old Boy….

    • 602
      tony says:

      Fuckwidge, you are very ill.

    • 605
      Steve Jobs says:

      Are you feeling a teasy weasy bit unsettled Charlie Boy?

      Is it all beginning to get to you?

      Are you beginning to wonder whether your efforts are in vain?

      Have the Trolls got under your skin?

      Don’t worry…have fun.

      Shhhhh baby,it’ll soon be bedtime.

    • 614
      Bill Gates says:

      There you go, Man,keep as cool as you can.

      Face piles of trials with smiles.

      It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave.

      • 644
        Linus Thorvald says:

        If you don’t like things as they are, then shut up, get codeing, and build your own. The world will let you know if your efforts are any good.

    • 625

      i hope u is not bein racist man?

  143. 594
    Lord W. says:

    After about six minutes Gerrard returned to the victim who was sitting alone at the bar and allegedly confronted him with the words: “Who the f*** do you think you are?
    After about six minutes Gerrard returned to the victim who was sitting alone at the bar and allegedly confronted him with the words: “Who the f*** do you think you are?
    After about six minutes Gerrard returned to the victim who was sitting alone at the bar and allegedly confronted him with the words: “Who the f*** do you think you are?
    After about six minutes Gerrard returned to the victim who was sitting alone at the bar and allegedly confronted him with the words: “Who the f*** do you think you are?

  144. 597
    Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

    I have noted many times before that the Internet is a haven of anonymity for less intellectually blessed folk than me.

    The mere fact that many now attempt to impersonate me is testament to the Truth that I speak.

    I am the true Messiah of the Blogosphere..But,lesser mortals, do not be intimidated by my omnipotent intellectualism…

    You will learn great things from my teachings,and your brief life will be enhanced by that experience.

    ..Just as Gordon has done.

  145. 601
    righty right wing (mrs) says:

    “”It is not enough that you are just accepting of the changes to the fiscal model of the world bought about by socially progressive leaders – you will need to be a demonstrable and willing cog in the future solution.

    All is well. Ssssshhhhhhhhh”".

    How terrifyingly Orwellian.

    So we have to publicly state that we love “Big Brother Brown” in your Stalinist fantasyland?

    Dangerous extremism with a devout Buddhist tinge can be found in the Burma Junta regime – after reading between the lines of your posts Charles I believe you will fit right in there.

    Seek help before you start burning books.

  146. 607
    IGGLE PIGGLE says:

    AH AH AH UH OOOO AH

  147. 608
    D MCBRIDE ESQ says:

    I PLAY A VERY LONG GAME GEEDOT AND DON’T YOU AND YOUR LACKEYS FORGET IT.

    GOT FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES I HAVE.

  148. 619
    Grammar School Lad says:

    Milfburn talks a load of bollox about the ‘glass ceiling’.
    Why is it only Law & Medicine that are the top jobs!
    They do not create wealth, we require engineering, design & technology, manufacturing, small businesses that will grow and employ.
    Universities should have meaningful courses and not just be institutions to remove the unemployed from a list with meaningless courses.

  149. 630
    Anonymous says:

    do you remember four feather falls and pussy cat willum?

    check them our below if postman pat and the telly tubbies are too intellectually powerful for you.

    http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/fourfeather.htm

    http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/children/smalltime/smalltime.htm

  150. 632

    Zen is about quality, how things relate, and how the fog of misunderstanding, assumptions, and other clinging get between the self and reality. Mastery and transference are key to Zen as part of a path towards “oneness” rather than merely winning elections.

    So, both politics and Zen have everything in common but they’re as different as chalk and cheese. That doesn’t make sense but if folks can intuitively grasp that they probably get more about Zen than they realise. It’s just they spend too much time trying to understand it that they miss the target, and that’s Zen as well. If politicians and the media ran with that and learned to let go a bit, maybe, there’d be less dumb in politics.

    • 635

      Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.

    • 651
      Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

      Remember that if a poker is put into a fire,only one end becomes red hot.

      However that poker is a single entity,and it is both hot and cool at the same time.

      Zen teaches us that such anomalies are normal,and as such,should be grasped with both hands….but where does an enlightened one grasp the poker?

      • 652
        Engineer says:

        It all depends wether you are the poker or the pokee.

        • 654
          Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

          Correct…have a cigar.

          But remember,a lighted cigar is only hot at one end,yet is a single entity

          ………..

  151. 643
    Anonymous says:

    “No taxpayers will be harmed by Guido’s holiday for a month in France”

    But, if Channel 4 news is to be believed, some of the thieving MP traitors may have ‘self-harmed’ during that time. Ha ha ha.

    The liblabcon scum can top themselves if they want to – it would save the State the expense of executing them in a few years time. Bunch of cυnts.

  152. 649
    bill kearns says:

    You are right to put the concern of Mrs F first but we will miss your postings.

    The annual jollies enjoyed by MPs are just that. I do not have the resources to research them but it would be of interest to know who has gone where over the last five years. Maybe one of your contributors can provide the answer.

    Bill Kearns
    Southampton

  153. 671
    Rant against the Machine says:

    I see those thieving c ***s in parliament have passed some laws to “make it” a criminal offence for an MP tp claim false expenses punishable with up to a year in prison. WTF !!!! There already is a law which applies to them as it does to us its called FRAUD and if convicted a court can sentence the perpetrator to as many years in jail as it sees fit . Who the f*** do these clowns think they are, AND DO THEY REALLY THINK WE ARE STUPID ?

  154. 672
    Rant against the Machine says:

    Have you noticed the latest spin phrase being trotted out by this Goverment when their spokesperson doesnt want to talk about a subject thats embarrasing for them. ” The Public dont like it” yep, thats right they are now self appointed arbitars of what we like and dont like.
    I see that arch narcisist Bercow was at it the other day, preventing Cameron from pounding Brown into the Ground by claiming the “Public dont like ” this Bickering. Oh yes we feckin do !!!!!

  155. 673
    God says:

    Enjoy your holiday Guido. I will bless the weather and ensure that the sun shines upon you for the duration. Many of your mortal MP’s will be grabbing freebies while you are away – either hols at the expense of those wealthy individuals to whom they have been of service (or are about to be of service!) or expensive “missions of discovery” in exotic locations, with the entire cost of the trip funded by the long suffering taxpayer. Do try to keep abreast of their misdoings while you are away – it saves me from having to expose them in my own way (I have so many more important things to do!)

  156. 687
    God says:

    Harriet and John – you have sinned!

  157. 690
    Jimmy R says:

    Now, now, GF, I do hope it wasn’t you who was responsible for the non-existent alleged mysterious phone taps on Two Shags’ phone.

  158. 696
    giant milky way bar says:

    oh my god its a flamingo!

  159. 396
    Steve Expat says:

    You are right, Charles. Most of what is written here is incredibly naive. It is no exaggeration to say that many people who post are utter hoons who don’t know what from what. Like what I do.

  160. Gregg says:

    I am no a caky person, I prefer a nice sausage roll

  161. Steve Expat says:

    TwAT’s multiple personality disorder seems to be back again….

  162. Steve Expat says:

    Thanks for that TwAT – why not use your own name, or has Guido banned you?

  163. Lord W. says:

    Expat

    I am on here and I am a hoon
    you are correct

  164. 400
    Doug Welsh says:

    You are right, Nell. Those who work hard get what they deserve, I’ve always said that. I mean, take you, you must have worked extremely hard to be as unfathomably stupid as you are.

  165. Professor Progressor says:

    How can you tell Nell is unfathomably stupid if you can’t fathom that she is stupid?

    Isn’t that a bit like the Labour line, “There is no evidence to suggest that…” ?

    If there’s no evidence then it plainly isn’t true.

    It’s a bit like saying “There’s no evidence to suggest that Nell ISN’T stupid.”

    Why not provide evidence to confirm that Nell is stupid? Or is it that you can’t because you’re too unfathomably stupid to do so?

  166. Doug says:

    You are too unfathomably stupid to recognise that the phrase ‘unfathomably stupid’ refers not the question of whether nell is stupid or not (any nell posting will clarify that issue), but to the depths of the stupidity. Hence the level of stupidity is so profound that it is difficult to guage. What passes for analysis in your posting suggests that these conclusions are likely to be applicable to you too.

  167. Professor Progressor says:

    What’s a guage? Is that something you measure your stupidity with?

  168. Professor Progressor says:

    If the level of stupidity is too profound to “guage” (in your words) then how can you determine that the level is indeed high or low – or even existent? Perhaps you are too stupid to comprehend the level of conversation? It could indeed be “unfathomably” profound rather than “unfathomably” stupid? How can you tell?

    It’s simply based on your own prejudiced rules and not any quantifiable evidence. Where is your evidence to suggest that Nell is stupid?

  169. Sir William Waad says:

    Professor, imagine that you have a method of measuring the depth of the ocean using the reflection of sound waves off the ocean floor. This works well until you come to a part of the ocean where the bottom drops away. The echoes from the sound waves become fainter until they are impossible to detect.

    You now know the the ocean is very deep at that point, but cannot measure just how deep. It is ‘unfathomably profound’.

    It is certainly possible to know that something is very large, or deep, or high, without knowing how large, deep or high it is.

  170. Engineer says:

    Having read many of Nell’s posts, I will categorically assert that Nell is not stupid.

    There are, however, several others posting on this blog who give the impression that they are.

  171. Doug says:

    The presence of the stupidity is axiomatic in any of the posting said poster has made. That stupidity is present is intuitively obvious. It is the level, the depth, the profundity to which the term ‘unfathomable’ is directed. Failing that, as per my opening sentence, a brief scan of any posting will confirm my conclusion. This renders your implication that no evidence was provided invalid. Perhaps simple thought is difficult for you? Go back and read the post carefully before you reply.

    Guage is a medical term for a measuring device. Gauge, on the other hand, has a more technical/engineering bent, though either is, admittedly, applicable in the context used.

    If you knew what it was, you would also be aware that you are guilty of what is called an ad hominem attack here. Equally, if you want to use irony to draw attention to what someone has said, as you clearly do with the parenthetical ‘in your words’, the way to do that is to use the latin sic. Again, I suggest you look that up too.

  172. Professor Progressor says:

    While I see you are on the right track, Sir William, you can measure if something is deep, tall or fat as their are rules for doing so. Tom Watson, for example, is fat – as everyone would agree.

    However, stupidity is subjective. I think Gordon Brown is stupid but there are others who would strongly disagree. Master Baiter being one of them.

    Therefore, evidence should be provided as to why Nell is stupid in an attempt to convince. Simply disagreeing with her views does not make her stupid.

  173. Ladies First says:

    A gentleman would not discuss a lady like Nell in such disparaging terms!

  174. Professor Progressor says:

    I feel you need to look up the phrase “having your leg pulled” :)

    “Guage is a medical term for a measuring device.” Actually it isn’t. Gauge is the correct spelling. You simply searched in vain for something called a guage and found a weblink with a similar misspelling. PWNED I believe the kids call it. Look it up.

    However, you shouldn’t call people stupid without offering up proof. Just because YOU find something intuitively stupid doesn’t mean that it is. If anything’s been proved it’s that you can’t take being called stupid yourself – while you think it’s okay to do it to others.

    Hypocrisy I think they call that. Look it up.

  175. Count Forsythe-Smythe says:

    Only a person of working class origin would talk of Nell in such a manner. It befits only the industrial ignorance of the common Labour voter. They simply have no sense of humour, what what what.

  176. wireless says:

    Go on Nell show us your outspans, shut it or I’ll peel your satsumas.

  177. nell says:

    Well!! Have just come in for lunch and see my ears should have been burning!

    I’m not sure that a discussion of the attributes I may or may not have is a suitable subject for this blog.

    I would have thought that the vandalism that Labour has wreaked on our political system is a much more interesting subject.

  178. Doug says:

    PWNED I believe the kids call it.’

    :) Nice to see you back, Mr Brent.

  179. barefootcontessa says:

    Game set and match to Prof Prog!

  180. Infanta of Castile says:

    A guage is a particularly cloying, but delicious, chocolate pudding.

  181. Lil Olmey says:

    It’s for measuring how green behind the ears you are.

  182. nell says:

    PWND? No I don’t think so.

    Unlike gordon I am not humiliated by having my views challenged. Neither am I defeated. Defeat would imply that I had to accept my view was wrong and needed changing. I do not accept that.

    As for your Mr Brent I have never met him but I am sure he is your good friend. Kindly give him my regards.

  183. Infanta of Castile says:

    and a d(o)ug is a tit in early modern English

  184. barefootcontessa says:

    The Inquiry didn’t manage to lay a finger on Andy Coulson. Hope the guardian story will now grind to a halt.

  185. The Wasp says:

    I thought it was a Caramel-based Yorkshire delicacy favoured by the likes of John Prescott.

  186. Sir William Waad says:

    Professor, you are introducing a new argument that does not refute mine. I was arguing that we can tell that something is extreme without necessarily being able to measure it.

    ‘Unfathomably stupid’ is clearly a metaphor, because if stupidity could be measured it would not be with a depth gauge. We ought to understand it as a metaphor.

    We do try to measure stupidity for legal, medical and social reasons. Among the measures used are the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale and the Adaptive Behaviour Scale. These are not as rigorous as measurements of length, temperature etc. but even those are never entirely accurate.

  187. Sir William Waad says:

    Professor, you are making a new point rather than refuting mine.

    ‘Unfathomably stupid’ is a metaphorical phrase because, if one could measure stupidity, it would not be with a depth gauge or even a guage. People do measure stupidity for medical, legal and social reasons. As Einstein remarked. however, “Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the Universe.”

  188. Longshanks says:

    Extemism is no vice in the defence of liberty.

  189. Anonymous says:

    Gareth, I didn’t see you there. Still arslikhan too, I see.

  190. nell says:

    Just before I had a bit of lunch today I went for a pony and trap. As soon as I stood to admire the stool, I realized that it looked EXACTLY like Gordon Brown. Hahaha, I thought, this obviously means that his fiscal policy is completely wrong. We knew that anyway, of course. Then I found a crushed biscuit that looked exactly like Ed Balls. All this just goes to show how only the Conservative Party can keep the troops in Afghanistan safe.

  191. nell says:

    This last nell is an imposter.

  192. Gordon Brown’s pulled a sweet deal as the power and money was there for the taking. He just had to spot the opportunity and go for it, and he did. He’s used established mechanisms and existing money to refocus and recapitalise. Government, banks, and the public will get the stability they need, and later discussions and investigations will help fine tune the City so it’s a better quality entity that plays a more useful supporting role.

  193. Harry Stotle says:

    As Einstein remarked. however, “Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity (1), and I’m not sure about the Universe.”
    @(1) substitute with: New Labour.

  194. incandescent-with-rage says:

    You still don’t get it, do you, Charles. It’s all very well to refocus and recapitalise, but people are losing their jobs. If people have no money to spend, they won’t spend it. Businesses will go bust, more people will lose their jobs and stability will be non-existent. It’s getting that way now.

    You really have to draw on your own talked-up inner powers to see it. Otherwise, your posts are a complete waste of time.

  195. Chuck Berry says:

    And for the other 12 years he was doing what exactly?

  196. South of the M4 says:

    “…. existing money…..” Yeah, right. Plonker.

  197. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    pretty faithful to the original tho’ Nell, it must be said.

  198. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    ACTUALLY, IF YOU WANT TO BE HISTORICALLY ACCURATE YOUR NAME OUGHT TO BE SPELT “LANG SHANKS” NOT “LONG” SHANKS )
    At that time Scots and English were very similar because the so-called English language was the tongue of the Clan Ingles from whom it rapidly spread around the world by virtue of a mechanism that is now known as a “meme”. (see Dr Susan Blackmore on Meme theory). BTW – the only thing that differentiesa them even to this day is the inability of the invaders to pronounce idioms like “H” and “R” and “CH” (only proving oit coudl NEVER hav ebeen their native language, given that they cannot even speak its principel constructs). Nowadays, seen mainly in SE England and the UK Media (sadly).

  199. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    Good point – Enstein and New Labour were pretty close analogies in their modern intellectual approach to soical issues…Good man, well said.

  200. Harriet Harman says:

    Ooh! I like sausage too!

  201. John Prescott says:

    Eeh! I know that well enough ‘arriet







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