Orange Booker Turns Blue
Chamali and Chandila Fernando have defected from the Libdems to the Tories. The LibDems are, as parties always do, playing it down and hinting that it is sour grapes. Guido spoke with Chandila yesterday, he said that when he ran for LibDem President he got a lot of stick for being on the right-of-the-party and he felt if he was unwanted, why not go where he was wanted.
He has a lot of energy, to be basically be driven out of the party seems a shame. Liberal Vison, the Orange Book factional grouping seem a bit disappointed to lose one of their number. The Cameroon love-bombing of the LibDems will see more traffic in this direction before the general election…
is this good lib dums ?
Along with others I received an email from petitions at number10 yesterday, not only declaring that they are no longer listening, but ‘here’s a link to ZaNuLiebore advertising’, presumably paid for by the tax payer.
Have your say on something worse than Brown as PM
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/stopblair/signatures.html
i thought blair was bringing peace to the middle east?
No, pizza.
The Penguin
and i thought a peadlo was a good idea lad
Is there anything more dusgusting than sending pizza to those who are slaughtering civilians in Gaza.
Is there anything that those who continually support this ethnic cleansing wouldn’t do.
I agree: sending pizza isn’t kosher. And it isn’t working.
do they get the pizza free if it takes more than 25 minutes?
Piss off Mohammed and leave the Jews alone.
To me firing rockets into Israeli homes, then storing your own terrorists and their munitions in the midst of a school, seems fatally inauspicious.
Homopathic Ian Dale Blog Reader’s Roll of Esteemed Heroes; Royal Marines, First, United States Marine Corps, Second, Israeli Defence Forces, Third, Palestinian cutthroats and murderers, Piss off!
Mental midget, how did you feel about the Zionist terrorists when they were blowing up innocent British at the King David hotel?
Ah right.
It’s all the big bad mozzies fault. They’re so powerful them, and the Israelis so weak.
It’s wall to wall war crimes with you lot…
Re: Motor Berater
And the English expulsion of the Jews by one of the Edwards?
The cruel and rigorous exclusion of Jewish Britons from stately offices and honours, the rewards of merit, and even of mere social intercourse.
Some members of any race or creed are vile and atrocious, what is most decisive is whether such a trait is contrary or agreeable to the character of the aggregate.
to: Homopathic Iain Dale Blog Reader
Ah right. Someone was nasty to you, so you’ll slaughter children and ethnically cleanse to your racist heart’s content.
Re: Dead Children of Gaza
The nations allied against Israel; Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, (really if not apparently) Egypt, Jordan, possibly Turkey under the present fanatic, the indifference of an anti-Semitic Europe, and the populace of the Moslem.
National friends of Israel; United States, and (when subject to conservative government, so not now) Britain, Australia
Also, Sir, can you practise any religion, or none, in the Palestinian territories without molestation or civil disability. But can you in Israel? Yes.
That would be ethnic cleansing and genocide like happened in South Ossetia by the Georgians? (about 20 people killed).
No one is a serious threat to Israel, but Israel is a serious threat to everyone round it.
Apart from having the best armed army, they’ve got loads of nukes too.
The only question is why they would pretend that the Palestinains were some sort of major threat that they had to lay siege to, slaughter every so often and destroy the infrastructure in their occupied territory, whilst continually building illegal settlements
Unless of course their long term plan was to make these territories unworkable.
And all who follow with them are just as guilty of these war crimes against humanity.
You forgot the Yom Kippur war. Who started that?
Dale referenced idiot, you talk absolute nonsense.
The rest of us know when something is right and when it is wrong.
The apartheid state of Israel would not exist but for the US policy objective of maintaining a strategic hold on the middle east. It is no more than a colony of the West. Israel has had to resort to Russian immigrants with no or extremely remote Jewish connection to populate it’s benighted project. The reality is the project is doomed. The reason it is doomed is that it is morally corrupt.
Israel is preceived very negatively and rightly so by most people in most countries. Even in the US thanks to the internet public perception of Israel is on the slide.
Because of the truth of the injustices Israel perpetrates it must reform, mend its ways and reach a just settlement with the Arabs of Palestine. Like in South Africa justice will prevail racism will be smashed.
Israel is the only democracy in the ME. Speak for yourself nazi.
But theeenk of the cheewldren. Blah blah blah
freddie, you are one big fucking let down lad.
the reason tony blair had to resign as PM was because he did not say one word against the illegal israeli incursion in Gaza and his position became untenable within the labour party.
no freddie, not the one that just happened when the israelis killed 1400 Palestinians, who were mostly innocent civilians, but the illegal incursion before that illegal incursion.
that is why blair lost his job freddie, so the idea of him helping the preace process in the region is a nonsense.
as long as blair is the quartet’s envoy there will be no peace.
there is more chance of blair getting a bullet in the head than there is of peace while that warmongering c’unt is involved.
I thought Blair resigned – with impeccable timing?
From Dick the prick “But theeenk of the cheewldren. Blah blah blah”
What normal person would say such a thing when children are being slaughtered by the Israelis?
Well, of course no normal person would say it.
But you’ll see the above and all manner of racist and obscene comments on Israeli supporting websites.
And Guido likes to send them pizza, to further enhance their slaughtering no doubt.
It’s not hard to see why the Tories were known as the nasty paty. Still are, obviously.
Except ofcourse that Israel is the only democratic country in the middle east, that allows Arabs to vote, that allows women to vote, that allows women to drive, have jobs – even become Prime Minister. In your myopic and blinkered idealistic weltanschauung it would give rise to the liberal arabic/ palestinian diaspora being welcomed by the Lebanon – yet, not so? ’tis curious – how much money we pump in, how many chances they are given that they seem hell bent on the destruction of both Israel & the Jews – surely shome mishtake. Grow up.
I’m not sure how being a democracy wins you a get out of jail free card, when you’re continually slaughtering Palestinians and when you’re not slaughtering them you’re putting them under siege and ensuring they can’t develop an infrastructure and economy.
The only common strand in Israeli policy is to continually destabilize and destroy any hope of Palestinian statehood. That’s the plan.
Not really sure why anyone supports this. It’s not in our national interest, and the more China and Russia exert influence over the region the more we’ll be left out with only a bankrupt Israel to console us.
Perhaps that’s when they’ll finally use their nukes, and fuck everything for everyone.
blair was kicked out on his fucking arse.
fucking war criminal.
and now he is the peace envoy.
oh how they laughed!
what surprises me is why no one has attempted to assassinate tony blair.
it’s a bloody mystery innit.
Israel is indeed the most democratic nation in the Middle East, but that is not enough to excuse its lamentable behaviour towards the Palestianians. Their actions towards a group they regard as untermensch (a chilling historical inversion) have destroyed normal social infrastructure to the point that – if I was Palestianian rather than Jewish – I would join the intifada myself.
And so would most of you, if your country was invaded and oppressed in a similar manner.
Israel must develop a new set of negotiating tools.
Dear Mr Jewboy.
Do not assume any such thing. If this country was invaded by anyone, I like most most sensible people would well and truly keep my head down. As do all sensible Palistinians.
Have you actually been to Israel? Thought not.
Arabs live well is Israel. Many run small businessess, and live in peace and harmony with there Jewish countrymen.
Jews and Muslims have far more that unites them them divides them. Division is propagated by ruling elites on both sides, all the common people desire is peace and prosperity. This is true all over the world. Ordinary people have all to lose and nothing to gain by wars or revolutions of any kind.
Please start to think with your head, if not also your heart. Jews do not hate Muslims, and Muslims do not hate Jews. The seeming fact that people like yourself believe that killing people EVER solves anything whatsoever, simply makes you as bad as all the other very bad people involved in simular cases of establishment ORGANIZED MURDER.
Petition signed. It won’t do any good but at least we can vent a small amount of anger.
Signed too, emailed the link as well. Is there a petition for nicking him for war crimes?
Tony Bliar jogs every day around the block, one day at the last turn before returning home he comes upon a lady of the night standing on the opposite corner,
One morning she calls across, Hey Tone £50 for the time of your life, He shouts back £5 and I might consider it. This becomes a ritual, he turns the corner, she shouts, he replies.
One morning Cherie gets up early and seeing Tone putting on his gear decides she is going jogging too.
Off they go and as they turn the last bend the tom shouts across the road, Fucking cheapskate , see what you get for a fiver!!!
I got that email from Downing Street. I found it chilling and scary.
Think it is Lib Dims Fred
you say dims i say dums lad
Not that dum if Dave’s now letting them suckle from the Tory trough
A lib dem vote is a wasted vote.
Don’t do t.
I’ll be buggered if I’m voting Liberal.
Can I be of assistance ?
The prehistoric Jeremy Thorpe joke springs to mind…..arrested at customs for having a false bottom in his suitcase
A lib dem vote is a wasted vote.
Don’t do it.
Lib Dems are a pathetic, limp, insipid group of no hopers.
Straw munchers and sheepherders
Nice to see another principled politician sticking to his beliefs.
The Penguin
I expect to see many more oportunists joining the winning Tory team in the months ahead, including some from Labour.
If any Labour MPs attempt to defect then Cameron should publicly scorn them for their naked opportunism.
Remember – each and every one of those unprincipled, mendacious, evil bastards has sat there for twelve years and watched a tsunami of corrosive anti-democratic legislation and utterly insane economic policy being proposed and waived through by the most evil, corrupt government since Cromwell.
And said to themselves… I can live with that, now where’s my expenses claim pad?
Fuck them. There should be no hiding place for such shallow, valueless dogs. Let them live in obscurity in their Stockholm-syndrome safe-seats or fend for themselves on the dole which is all most of the fuckers are fit for or will be able to get after the coming election.
Fuck them to hell.
Really.
But apart from that we’ll still accept any troughers who apply.
Sean Woodward walking backwards by xmas?
after they’ve paid back the pensions they’ve awarded themselves – tell me how that worthless cnut gorbels mick is worth more than any other pensioner ?
So what they are all EU sock puppets and there is not a fag paper of difference between the Hunts on the idiocy of ‘gloabl warming – eg more tax on the producing class, appeasement to members of the ‘religion of peace’ who are happy to spread that message by blowing people to fuck on the tube continued ‘membership’ of the EU etc etc. Lib Dems, New Labour, Conservatives – same shit different wrapper.
I hope not from Labour. LibDems I can just accept. Is the rumour Quentin Davies wants back in order to use his ministerial experience for the Tories?
More Lib Dem entryist fucktards. I’m sure they’ll fit in just peachy with the Cameron ‘Heir to Blair’ way – ticking all the right diversity boxes in the process.
As ever with these coolie politicians, their only principle is ‘follow the money’ and the prospects of personal advantage.
Another husband and wife team..get those expenses in! To digress, anyone got the names of those Zanulab ministers dissing baldy Dannatt? Brave hoons
Actually they are brother and sister!
And this story is months old – very disappointing Guido. It was announced at Tory spring conference.
Despite the Tory/media spin, both were of little significance in the Lib Dems as far as I can tell, and you do have to question their values if they stand for important internal positions one month and leave the party altogether the next.
Jonah strikes again….
http://tinyurl.com/lvde8z
Fred the shred is “entertained” by Snotty just before RBS goes tits up.
I’m trying to imagine Mr Brown entertaining somebody. How? Songs? Playing the spoons? A take-off of Rory Bremner? Jokes? – “So this banker goes into a pub. The barman says ‘I’m sorry, we’ve run out of beer, that’ll be £300 billion please’”.
Hi swhole premiership has been a joke. Just not a very funny one and one with a hugely expensive punchline.
Possible Brown Swan Song. After the well documented Faecal touch of our premier, I question if he is the right man to deal with the Swine Flu pandemic
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9mh9f_swine-flu-1976-propaganda_webcam
His regard for lessons from History is of course legendary
Excellent! More Lib Dems defecting to the Tories. And ethnics too!
No wonder Clegg and Huhne are looking increasingly desperate.
does it matter if they are ethnics lad? i just want honest mps and ahonest pm , is that too much to ask for?
Probably, when the Tories are now attracting all the careerist troughers.
Here here.
I don’t care where they or their families originally came from, all I want to know is whether they are a good MPs (honest and doing what is best for all their constituants and for the country).
All this quota shit makes my want to puke – Merit, that is what counts.
Why must everyone on this site be so offensive!
because it is a unredacted view from bloke on street
No it’s because they are dim and sexually repressed.
I really do take offence at your comment. Now fuck off.
Squidy:
I quite agree, it is a great pity that most of the comments made on this site have the right sentiment but are expressed in such vile or offensive language that the basic points that are trying to make are lost in the telling.
You a native speaker? Who appointed you as some linguistic arbiter of good taste?
The Penguin
fuck off squidy you wanker.
receipt, refund, fuck off.
simple squidy, so simple, innit.
and take that c’unt sungei with you will you?
what a pair of cripples.
conservativefoam is a mere click away!
GO THERE NOW RETARDS
Penguine:
No one has appointed me to anything, it is a strange thing to suggest otherwise.
All I am indicating is that some of the very pertinent political points made on this blog are lost because they are expressed in language that is juvenile and pathetic and hence invalidates the arguments they are trying to make.
TAT:
You prove my point.
look, if vulgarity offends you: go elsewhere. part and parcel of this site, one of the reasons i like it in fact, is that the censor nazi’s are pretty chilled out and we can talk using the language we want about the subjects we want. if the words fuck, shit, piss, Hunt, asshole etcetc offend you then i suggest you: 1) grow a thicker skin (really? you want us to say things like shazbot instead of shit? you don’t mind the content of what we say you would just prefer we use your prefered childish codewords right?) 2) go elsewhere.
The only thing TAT proves is that 2 decades of education policy were totally and utterly wrong.
for an example: calling GB a pratt doesn’t cover the depth of my feelings and in todays liguistic environment the words twatty twatty mchoon bastard barely describe the shallow end of my emotions. swearwords change, humbug; refering to the chicken breast as breast among all sorts of other words and phrases used to be considered obcene but are now quaint or just stupid. Don’t judge other people for expressing themselves the best way they know, its a little dictatorial and it makes you look like a douchebag.
ps. fuck off TAT you turd.
ok, i’ll try again without unnecessary gratutious swearing! Sungei, i really dislike Gordon Brown. however if i’m discussing him in conversation i will use profanity to express the depth of my feeling, that lashing out verbally at the moron using ‘taboo’ (although they are only taboo to you, to me they’re just words) words makes me feel better about my inability to get rid of the bastard and lets everyone know exactly what i think of him. no diplomatic half insult/half compliment, no vacuous longwinded wordy rant can sum up my feelings as well as the word bastard (with some a few bonus nouns and adjectives to boot). You might want to consider whether freedom of speech is more important than prtoecting the feelinhgs of repressed prigs. I’m all about freedom baby! check out penn and tellers bullshit, they did an episode on profanity that you might enjoy, if you can get over the fact that penn say’s fuck a lot.
are you two c’unts still here?
I thought I told you trolls to fuck off to conservativefoam?
sungei,
words offend thee?
what about war and occupation and torture sungei?
what about dropping bombs on wedding receptions or israeli troops murdering Palestinian children, does that offend you more or less than words?
idiot.
sick as sieves
Does poverty offend you?
Do you like apple pie?
Have you always been so nondimensional?
No charge.
TAT is, i think, some sort of deranged anarcho-socialist with a bug of righteousness up his arse. He uses words like war and poverty in the same way sungei would use like profanity and offence, they are just causes that allow him to pretend he isn’t a totally self absorbed wastrel. oh no. he cares bout them palestinian kiddies like they’re his own. he has never known hunger or fear or poverty or widespread violence but believes he understands how all these things came to be and if only everyone thought like him the world would be saved. He’s a monomaniac. In 20 years (if churchill was right) he’ll be a rapid pro isreali rightwing godbasher, any money.
TAT and others;
You are completely missing my point (perhaps deliberately). I am in no way offended by bad language; as one who worked in industry for over forty years it is something one gets used to. However, any person who uses the English language – probably the most expressive on earth- and is unable to communicate without the use of profanities seems to me to be only semi-literate.
It is possible that some contributors to this blog do not expect their contribution to be read but simply want to rant for their own benefit. This is a form of intellectual onanism.
Although Churchill used verbal bad language to emphasise a point in private he did not find it necessary when writing; and his magnificent wartime speeches would would have had far less impact if he had referred to “that f*****g Hitler”
are you British Sungei?
you sound like a reasonable fellow so I will take it that you are.
I too am British, and furthermore, I am also an English Man.
so don’t tell me how to use my native tongue you c’unt.
comprendez-vous?
merci.
PS any hangovers this morning, Guido?
Guido, Mr Dale, reported this portentous and astounding news yesterday to the online Tory world.
It met with bemusement and boredom.
However, in agreement with some other casual observers, I suspect these two politicians are either insincere in their conversion, or this is a symptom of Cameroon pseudo-conservatism sacrificing principles for votes, and losing both.
I want a second Thatcher, not Blair’s blue ribbon counterpart.
Here here – let’s have some politicians with guts running the place.
We all know how difficult the next few years will be and some hard desicions will have to be made, as happened with Thatcher in the ’80s
Politicians with guts? Are you thinking the Pickles/Prescott dream ticket?
No, but if you want to disembowel the current lot, especially if we keep them alive whille disembowelling them, then count me in as soon as I can blunt my knife.
Let’s hope this sort of thing carries on….
The only thing you need to know about careerists like this pair is that they don’t much care what vehicle conveys them to troffdom.
Exactly.
OT
I work in a lowly capacity for the BBC. I hear that there is some really appalling economic news coming out in the next few months and that our news teams have been told to play up the effect of swine flu so that the government can try to use this epidemic as an excuse for the financial turmoil ahead.
So the BBC are happy to inflict mass panic on the population for something that is in reality no more serious than what happens every winter, all with th intention of protecting Broon and his fellow morons from some bad economic data in the run up to an election??
Guido, Quote of the day yesterday, from James Arbuthnot at the Defence Select Cttee, addressing Broon: “There are two ways you deal with select committees. You can answer the questions or you can appear not to answer the questions.”
source: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jameskirkup/100003564/afghanistan-james-arbuthnot-bombards-gordon-brown/
The differnece with this strain of flu is that it is likely to be lethal to the young and healthy which the ‘what happens every winter’ type isn’t.
Parents of young children will be concerned and worried if they start witnessing large numbers of children dying from this flu.
It is not the same.
That has been speculated. many times before.
It has not been shown to be true.
Theoretically “it is not the same” … but it certainly looks like thats not the case, and its very similar to standard flu. Keep up.
MB, only one or two heathly people have died of this flu. Whilst that is sad for those concerned it does not need headlines of “65,000 could die in epidemic” plastered in letters three inches high – as the Maily Dail have today and the BBC are leading with at the moment.
The media are threatening to cause pandemonium with this story while the failing economy and the unwinnable war are sent to page 23.
Prediction: More brave men and women will die needlessly in Afghanistan this year than heathly people will die of this so-called pandemic.
steve 84.
Actually, if that figure is global, then it really sounds about right. if its over a couple of years or more, its really not that many. Globally, theres a hell of a lot of people hence a hell of a lot of people dying.
Tin, the 65,000 figure was the worst case scenario from an NHS internal briefing, prepared by the NHS planners who are paid make sure that if something happens, there is a plan in place to deal with it. It’s not a public document and the media, led by the BBC, are just scaremongering.
A sensible govt would refute the claims and set the record straight, but this one is just happy to see something other than Broon’s woeful failure at the Defence Select Cttee yesterday on the front pages.
There is a plan in place to deal with a 747 going to Heathrow falling short and ending up in a central London fireball – doesn’t mean it’s going to happen, just means that if it does, everyone knows what to do. This is a good thing.
Yes – seen it now. Its not just the BBC scaremongering – I just googled it and BBC wasnt even in the listing.
I like this bit (guardian):
Donaldson said: “We can’t give an estimate of deaths from this virus yet. We don’t know enough about it.”
Its a fag-packet figure, but surprisingly, not based on particularly outlandish numbers.
Aye the fucking BBC yesterday telling us that 29 people had died in the UK out of umpty thousand confirmed cases. Then I happened to be listenning to Radio 5 (I think) after the cricket and they had some medical expert saying that 3,000-5,000 deaths from flu was a ‘normal’ winter here in the UK.
Meanwhile my poor daughter (11) is filled with fear because the BBC reports that in China, with a population of one billion phlegm hocking superstars this figure is as high as….. 50. And we’re off there next week. Any old news story rather than the fcat that the economy is completely down the shitter and this governmnet is using every mechanism possible to delay what needs to be done right now and spend five vindictive years shrieking about the Tories being tha bad guys.
200bn quid squandered and 150bn quid printed just so that Brown doesn’t have to make the tough choices but can instead vilify the Tories for the even tougher choices they’ll have to make as a result of an unnecessary 1/3 of a trillionquid being pissed away.
What fucking planet are Labour MPs on? Do they really think they will be somehow immune from the disasterous after-effects of their rotten politics? What fucking planet is the BBC on?
Planet Fillyaboots
That does sound like a balance from the BBC then?
Its not just the BBC that are playing this up. Shocking headlines sell papers.
All very true, but the good thing is that Cameron will be turfed out and a proper Tory ballbuster can come to the fore when the the penny eventually drops with the British public.
It’s a godsend in a way – too terrified of the plague to keep an eye on the money. And the “look over there, a Tory is being mean to a handicapped asylum seeker” campaign didn’t play as well as they thought either.
What next? – invasion of the crab-like space aliens? (US marines dressed in fancy dress appearing to drunks in coastal Norfolk).
Earth is DOOOOMED!
Crab people. crab people. taste like crab, walk like people. crab people crab people.
Mssr’s stone and parker are prophets i tells ya
Time to scrap The Big Boys Club me thinks
That news hit today.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/5189928/the-imf-reveals-just-how-bad-it-is.thtml
GET IN !! What a result !!
Now stick it to Gordon on the holly-choppers in Afghanistan…
It is his failure and he ‘should be personally associated with it’…
…and its one, two, three, what are we fighting for
dont ask me I don’t give a damn
this stop? Afghanistan.
The sentiments never change only the countries we fight in.
What an effin mess!
God help us.
Is it just me, or is Guido becoming, day by day, more and more like just another tiresome Tory hack.
It’s probably you, but also your handlers at LabourLost.
So, Guido’s a Tory party hack or not?
Welcoming careerist troughers is certainly a change in his approach, or don’t you do thinking for yourself?
i dont care if he is tory labour or lib dum i just like his site
Until Google offer him squillions.
So Google supports the Tories???
No, but it can do a search on “Tories”. Ask again if you encounter difficulties.
Why would Google want to pay good money for a site full of dolies and chavs.
They want ABC 1s, not the barely literate racist scum you get on here.
If you dislike this site why do you post here? if you have nothing to offer but insults to the diverse (bet you love that word, oops i’m a rascist) readership i suggest you shut the fuck up.
If Bliar can do as good a job at wrecking the EU as he did in wrecking the UK then I think he should get the job.
Meanwhile in the real world……..
The IMF reveals just how bad it is
Brown’s hapless regulatory system, for example, allowed British banks to lend 10% of US GDP to US households.
TOTAL TAXPAYER EXPOSURE: £904bn or 63% of GDP.
full article
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/5189928/the-imf-reveals-just-how-bad-it-is.thtml
Less than 12 months ago the Chancellor was castigated by the press for saying the economic crisis was going to be the worst for 60 years.
Do you believe him now?
But don’t worry too much because most of the banks are now under government control, so the bankers can be reined in more easily. Except for Barclays which is controlled now by the government of Qatar.
From http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article6653749.ece
“Abu Dhabi, pocketed almost £1.5 billion in profit last month after selling a near-12 per cent stake in Barclays after only eight months.”
Barclays NOT in public sector makes money. All the other “saved” banks draining taxpayer cash at lightspeed. Notice a difference? But thank goodness New Labour decided to piss so much taxpayers money up a wall on their banking friends, how could we manage without such failures!?
Ooooo yeah, Darling was on it like a randy dog on a sofa arm, him and his mental defective boss saw it coming before everyone else didnt they?
All their predictions of the UK being best placed were spot on and their ultra careful borrowing of hundreds of billions of pounds will pay off and we will all live happily ever after in a rich socialist paradise, prime jobs and money will fall from the sky and the Indians and Chinese will be so impressed that they will shower us with free cash’N'everrrfink.
All the national debt will be paid off by magic with Browns magic money, its like real money but..er…uhm…better and much more streamlined’N'stuff, every socialist worker will be issued with a Brown money printer at home where they can just print off cash as needed, its all a fantastic unbeatable plan devised by the economic genius and legend in his own lunchtime(mind) the fabulous and brilliant prime mentalist, a man with an intelect so huge and gigantic that he will be worshipped for centuries to come.
sandra,
You’ve let yourself down, badly.
Oh and by the way it did start in America and it’s ripping the heart out of the place now.
Watch the tears flow.
when you say ‘in the USA’ do you mean ‘by Bush’? in my opinion the USA’s legislatures never getting to read the laws they pass before they pass them is ripping the US up. also the undying political zombie that is socialism.
no-one forced UK banks to get in on what seemed like a good deal at the time. The actions they took were within the legal bounds set by the UK gov. Stop clouding the issue and the fact that your scapegoat is also your pet hate (as a leftie i mean, nothing personal, you may dislike other things), popularly despised among lefties and other political retardsm, fails to add weight to your charge.
Cassandra – an excellent comment, accurate and succinct.
MB – you are factually incorrect, if by “it” you mean the UK’s bust.
America’s recession started in America. Britain’s recession started in Britain. The reason is that the bulk of the UK economy is based within our own borders, and so is only marginally affected by the USA.
UK banks like HBoS and RBS were not bankrupted by America but by a combination of Gordoom’s useless regulation, and for HBoS over exposure to the Gordoom property boom; for RBS it was partly the Brown bust and partly their own hubris in taking over ABN.
Current situation worse that when liebour went to the IMF in the seventies. Liebour bankrupting the on again. Hapless professional politicians who have never had a real job in their lives, just intent on telling other people how to live their lives. Spending money as usual that is earnt by other people. Typical socialists , none wnat to earn revenue themselves, just take it off people who do.
In 12 years liebour have managed to bankrupt the economy again.
Spent all that money as Sarkhozy said, but no tangible assets to show for it.
The IMF’s forecasts are usually worthless because they just say that the future will be the same as the past. The point that UK banking regulation was especially bad is well made though.
Nobody at the top seems to have clue how to regulate banks so as to prevent another banking crisis. This is by no means the first such crisis even in the UK, merely the worst for a long time and there have been others in other parts of the world. Darling’s White Paper proposes merely to bring in another layer of boardroom bureaucracy, as ineffective as all that Cadbury twaddle on ‘corporate governance’ that failed completely to prevent bank directors from betting the company on an unending rise in asset values.
Somebody needs to address the issue of how banks actually operate. This is often illogical and dangerous. Forcing the CEO to sit on a harder chair won’t change anything. It will just create another set of petty regulations for clever people to evade.
Everything bar everything this bunch of gobshites has touched or meddled with has turned to shite. The chickens are now coming home to roost big time.
I am no economist but apart from Houseowners with mortgages now paying on average 3% above base, where is the benefit of the lowest interest rate ever benefitting us peons and private business in the UK? Are we seeing a reduction in our C.Card interest? are we able to negotiate a loan for less than we could two years ago? are overdraft charges coming down?
What a fucking con trick.
The printing presses at full tilt filling the banks coffers and they take it, refuse to lend at anything approaching a fair rate and then lay off thousands of staff onto the dole queues whilst those responsible get on with awarding themselves bouses.
The only organisation that is getting a fair rate for it’s borrowing is HMG and as an organisation they are fucking bankrupt!
“Unannounced checks on children’s services introduced after the Baby P case should be halted because they are unfair, senior officials have said.
Ofsted, which is tasked with the inspections, has been accused by children’s services directors of using inspectors who are not well trained.
It is believed that out of the first nine councils checked, “serious concerns” were reported in six of them.
But critics say the concerns may simply relate to paperwork errors. “
Nice – so we shouldn’t be inspecting child services ‘cos the inspectors are finding bad stuff there… So very NewLiebour
Bet your life the report will be delayed….
Chamali Fernando is proposing the reintroduction of the Poll Tax or Community Charge.
Didn’t you lot just love that.
The community charge was eminently sensible. It was opposed by the vast army of benefits scroungers who were faced with paying their fair whack for a change.
It was unpopular because it was unjust.
It was politically really stupid, not surprising as Thatcher had become detached from reality by then, too many ‘vitamin’ injections.
Better her vitamin injections than those administered to the UK (and each other) by McMental and Fondlebum.
Thatcher should have given benefit scroungers an option to surrender voting rights for non-payment of the poll tax. Had she done this there would have been no riots, no resignation and no collapse of the nation after 12 years of misrule.
damn straight subjunctive, you don’t pay tax, you don’t vote. it is called the poll tax for a reason right?
The “Community Charge” was more fair than the old Rates system, but was politically unpopular because the unwashed masses saw it as regressive and resented that their “share” was the same as someone who actually worked hard and made good for themselves
the community charge is fairer than the council tax. If you use the services you should pay. But that is socialism for you, as I said earlier, socialists expect other people to earn the money for them and then gets things free as well.
I really hope Cameron has the balls for a massive reform of social security.
A government provided “Safety Net” should not be paying for satellite TV, designer clothes, nights out on the town etc, all of which are very much in evidence.
Pay ‘benefits” out in food vouchers and save 20 or 30 billion from the welfare budget overnight.
It’s not the chavs with their tellies who are the biggest beneficiaries of welfare Britain.
It’s the too big BBC, a too big parliament, the quangocrats, the too many levels of govt, the Royal family and all those who suckle off them.
Not to mention the bankers, of course.
We’re 175bn overspending this year, that’s nearer 30% than 20%.
Don’t start me on the quangoes and non-jobs – what the fuck does a “director of diversity monitoring” do at a local council, and why do they earn 80 grand a year for it?
Stop all the PC shit and let professionals do their jobs. We have good doctors, nurses, teachers and even policemen in this country, so why the need to constantly monitor and micromanage everything they do?? If their is a broblem with young black men carrying knives, then what is achieved by stopping and searching granny in the street to show that the police are not being racist or ageist?
As a young man I filled out the form they sent you when the Poll Tax was introduced. It had one of those pointlessly long character strings, 123XXZ89P45/123?*56RT or something. I filled the form in and sent it back and we then received three Poll Tax demands, one for Lady Waad, one for me and one for Mr 123XXZ89P45/123?*56RT.
I sent the third one back with a note that Mr 123XXZ89P45/123?*56RT had only been a temporray resident and had gone back to his home on Mars.
Seriously, Poll Tax meant even more intrusion, form-filling and bureaucracy.
It wasn’t a poll tax. It had nothing to do with polls.
poll. head. per person.
In practice, you had to appear in the Personal Community Charge Register to be included on the Electoral Register.
The Community Charge was a more equitable tax than General Rates which preceded it and Council Tax which replaced it.
The essential reason for its failure was the inability of local authorities to cope with the administration involved.
Education being what it is in this country, it was probably a spelling mistake and was meant to be a pool tax.
A local sales tax or a local income tax would be a fairer way to pay for local services and would energise local politics by giving voters a real choice at local elections. Party A could say they will charge 5% sales tax and reasonable local services and Party B could say they will charge 7% and provide higher quality services than Party A
So do I get this right. Not only does cameron sound a bit lib-dem, he’s convincing enough at that to get Lib dems to join his party.
Is this all just a false impression, or did cameron just forget to swap party from conservative to libdem many years ago.
MPs have condemned the “catastrophic mismanagement” of a college building scheme in England which could cost hundreds of millions of pounds.
The Learning and Skills Council, which ran the scheme, and the government are criticised in a report by the committee which deals with further education.
The LSC encouraged colleges to bid for funds and approved projects it did not have money for, their report says.
Ministers have acknowledged mistakes made and say lessons are being learned.
Ministers have acknowledged mistakes made and say lessons are being learned.
For fucks sake. Haven’t they kicked the arse out of that one yet?
Aye, we’ve fucked the economy, mistakes have been made (although not by Gordon Brown obvioulsy) and lessons have been learned (although not by Gordon Brown obviously because he didn’t make any mistakes and so has nothing to learn), time to move on, put this behind us. Forward not backwards. Vote Labour.
Arseholes.
Absolutely. And see also post 50 for more after-the-fact rectification of mistakes.
Ah, that’s it you see. With all the cabinet on day release a-learning lessons, there has been neither time nor the manpower for the governing.
Edyew….Eduyk….Learning Lessons!
Don’t know if you listened to Despatches the other week where they looked closely at what had happened. Piss up & Brewery come to mind. They run it like Mel Brooks “The Producers” allocating the same money to different colleges.
Training Organisations receieved instructions from the lSC to greatly increase training places which they did. The shite then hit the fan the result being that “students” were turning up to courses which had received an email the day before telling them all bets were off and Colleges who had their schemes approved and had begun demolition in expectation of funding are now left with piles of bricks and signed contracts with builders they cannot honour.
Gonna cost a minimum of £200 million just to unravel the contractual obligations entered into.
The military’s medical arm is under severe strain because of a huge shortage of doctors, unions say.
A third of the 768 doctor posts in the armed forces are currently unfilled with the worst shortages in some of the most critical areas like anaesthetics.
The British Medical Association said the problem meant doctors were risking burn-out because they were having to return to the front-line too quickly.
The government said it was trying to rectify the shortfall.
The comments from LibDems have been rather nasty. There seems to be a racist sub-text to some of them. Not, of course, that they are openly racist. God forbid! Apparently there are two classes of Brown skinned people. Those who are ‘good’ (Lib Dem) and those that are evil, wicked and bad (members of the Tory Party.)
Speaking of people who are evil, wicked and bad…
As Brown dithers, soldiers die
Do you have any concern for the women and children being killed in Afghanistan?
What do you believe is the objective of the Afghanistan operation?
Do you think the objective is realistically achievable?
How many troops and how much equipmen do you think it will take to achieve?
How many troops and how much equipment will be lost in trying to achieve the objective.
When do you admit the objective is unachievable?
When will the helicopters arrive so that our boys wont get blown to bits by roadside bombs?
Why is ZanULabor spending 4 times as much on chavs and dolescum than on Defence?
When is the next General Election?
Cancelled, can’t afford it.
Is everyone who is currently unemployed either a “chav” or “dolescum” then?
What do you think would happen if the gov doled out less to what you can “chavs and dolescum”? Hint: answers in the range of “it would force them to get a job” merely displays ignorance.
The deriders and stigmatisers of the poor and unemployed will be squealing when their savings and annuities are stolen or inflated out of existence in the unfolding economic maelstrom. Their sour outlook poisons mainly themselves.
Regarding helicopters, UK troops can and do use US helicopters, they are NATO allies. In just the same way as US astronauts ride on Russian rockets to the internaitonal space station.
The operation in Helmand has changed with the recent arrival of US marines. They are taking casualties in just the same way as the UK is.
Please realise that you are demoralising the relatives of the troops and in trun the troops themselves. Nice work you Conservitude scum.
Military medical support is a third understrength. So too few helicopters leads to increased casualties who may or may not get appropriate medical help.
If anyone picks up on a story about troop deaths through lack of doctors or the Americans having to step in to treat injured British troops, I’d love to know.
Master Baiter, McMental and his bumboys have made no decision to withdraw from Iraq or to contain involvement in Afghanistan. Obama made these decisions and McMental followed without so much as a questioning thought.
McMental’s total detachment from the war has led to our boys being under-resourced and exposed to death and unnecessary danger. Labour are not even able to articulate consistent reasons for engagement in Afghanistan let alone manage the war.
It is not the bloggers that are “demoralising the relatives of the troops and in turn the troops themselves”, it is our political leaders. How many more soldiers will need to die before the armed services and public make absolutely clear who they think is to blame?
If you are concerned about civilians, you just don’t go to war. They always die, by the thousands, if not from the actual bombs, then from the chaos that surrounds the war.
Is that the real MB ? surely its a faker? Anti-war sentiments like that surely aren’t the party line.
Brown pulled out of Iraq, pronto.
Brown resisted escalation of the UK operation in Afghanistan.
Both are rational decisions.
The Conservitudes are trying to ride the dragon, they’ll get burnt.
If you are concerned about civilians, you just don’t go to war.
That’s the main reason you do go to war. To protect civillians or are either yours or being oppressed, well it used to be anyway. When I was in, that’s what I chose to believe.
Now it’s that countries particular assets and minerals that decide.
yes … sorry 140 … I occaisionally believe the bit about protecting civilians, but I don’t often believe the argument.
139 Baiter. So It was wrong to go to war in Iraq, and wrong to go to war in Afganistan? I bet Mandy wouldnt say that too loudly, seeing as he wants his puppet err friend as president of europe.
It was right to leave Iraq.
It is right to resist escalating the UK operation in Afghanistan, which by the way is not a war, it’s an operation, whatever that means.
Jingoism sells papers and the Conservitudes think it will win votes.
In the case of Afghanistan the Conservitudes are wrong, they will get burnt badly on this unless they adopt a more responsible attitude.
But what can you expect if their public relations are run by a former editor of a filthy rag of a newspaper from the stable of a warmongering media conglomerate that is financially imploding?
Coulsongate anyone?
So Blair was was wrong? Even if we only really spotted why with hindsight?
(PS. Much as I hate chirac, he did actually see several real wars, which might help with knowing how they end up)
Master Baiter, you give equivalence in the same sentence to ‘Coulsongate’ and the conduct of the Afghanistan war. Your masters appoint a bus conductor as Defence Secretary. And you suggest it is the Conservatives that will be “burnt badly”?
Hey, asshat. It’s ‘Conservative’ – which is a word, unlike ‘Conservitude’ which isn’t.
‘Conservitude,’ no matter how often you keep repeating it, won’t catch on like ‘RepubliKKKan’ or ‘DemocRAT’ did in the US because it’s meaningless. What are you trying to imply with it?
The Conservatives will force the public into servitude? (by?)
The Conservatives are themselves in servitude (to?)
The Conservatives believe in servitude (again, to?)
Can you come up with something better please?
He’s your man, MB! Why don’t you ask the Saintly Brown?
Your spelling and coherence is very good for someone with a hangover!
Egypt and Saudi are now surreptitious allies of Israel as the threat from the looney Iran mullahs is about to go nuclear.
who gives a fuck. these wankers live on a different planet and they’re all bent.
now this is the real stuff:
“Among the Member States for which data are available for May 2009, construction output fell in nine and rose only in Sweden (+10.9%), Germany (+1.2%) and Poland (+0.1%). The largest decreases were registered in Romania (-23.7%), Slovenia (-21.1%) and the United Kingdom (-17.9%).”
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_PUBLIC/4-17072009-AP/EN/4-17072009-AP-EN.PDF
that’s right lovebombers your septic-isle country is now vying for status with the powerhouses of the old Eastern bloc. Thing is, Slovenia is a nice place and even Romania will eventually recover from the Bolshevik scum who raped it, but Britain’s headed the other way, captured by totalitarian marxist filth with a cowed, soulless populace.
Remind me again – just who are the LibDems?
Great stuff! Now if only we could get rid of the Traitor McMillan-Scott from the Conservative Party – the Limp Dims would be welcome to him!
Incidentally, it is a well known “open secret” that McMillan-Scott loathes Kirkhope, his regional colleague and that in the run-up to the Conservative Party selections organised a very senior female Party activist to promote his cause throughout the Yorkshire region to ensure that he was voted No. 1 and that Kirkhope was demoted to No. 2 on the Party List. EMS is a convinced supporter of the Palestinian cause (he boasts of his family links to T E Lawrence on his website) and Kirkhope is a staunch supporter of Israel. How they can work together as MEPs in their region after this debacle must surely remain to be seen.
I heard that story too – said female provides various “services” to him from time to time doesn’t she (fnarr fnarr fnarr….)
Thought there’d be quite a few absentees this morning. Bound over was it Guido?
LABOURS TRIPLE WHAMMY
VOTE BROWN
GET BROWN BLAIR MANDELSON
UNELECTED, TWICE DISGRACED,MANDELSON’S PAYBACK
BROWN STAYS KINNOCKS AND BLAIR GET JOBS
TAXPAYERS MONEY CONTINUES TO FUND THEIR LAVISH LIFESTYLES AND PENSIONS, WHILE THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE GOES THROUGH THE ROOF
ALAN JOHNSON SAYS TO THE WORLD “JUST KEEP COMING IN GUYS”
While we try to lower our emissions we are happy to see our population just keep on rising.
Can somebody tell me how to get Charlie out of bed?
Push the bare ends into the wet patch and press the switch on the wallsocket.
Tell him Gordon’s on the telly and his tissues are ready.
Roll up a banknote into a tight cylinder. Put one end up a nostril and the other by the Charlie. Put a finger over the other nostril and breathe in hard…
PUT THAT FUCKING BANKNOTE DOWN STEVE!
STEP AWAY FROM THE CHARLIE AND CRACK YOU SMELLY TRAMP!
I WILL NOT STAND BY AND WATCH AS YOU DESTROY YOUR LIFE STEVE
STOP TAKING COCAINE AND CRACK COCAINE MOTHERFUCKER
IT IS THE REASON YOU ARE HOMELESS YOU FILTHY FUCKING TRAMP!
STOP NOW!
I will make sure you get clean and stay clean steve you dirty junkie.
whether you like it or not.
Morning thick as – didn’t think it would take you long.
In case you didn’t realise, this blog is funny and irreverant. A lot of the comments are tongue in cheek and not to be taken seriously. Anyway, over here they lock you up for proper time in proper prison if you’re caught with any Hardwidge on you, so no I don’t!!
keep your gay fantasies to yourself you dirty old tramp.
but seriously steve, go easy on the crack.
it is ruining your life.
No, you’re getting mixed up with the Tory 1980s there. You know, that time when you could float a brick. Cf. Hollingshurst, Alan. The Line of Beauty.
You’re mistaking that pillow under the duvet for your son, madam. Poor dear Chas is in fact still manacled to a wall in an S&M dungeon entertaining some very nice gentlemen of the leather persuasion, directed there by Guido to keep him away from the drinks party.
We would rather leave him there to dream and fantasise. Still the only difference is him lying down.
Lest we forget
Ian Gibson 2006
“For years, country folk in Norfolk have been the butt of jokes suggesting that incest is rampant in the county. Now, one of its MPs has caused uproar by stating publicly that people in Norfolk are inbred…
Dr Ian Gibson, the Norwich North MP and former chairman of the Commons science and technology committee, proposed inbreeding as a reason for the high incidence of diabetes among children in the area.
“I would imagine it is linked to the fact that people in Norfolk are quite inbred, with many not leaving the county,” he told the Eastern Daily Press this week. “It is something that needs to be looked at as a priority, especially as many cases are linked to obesity, too.”
Dr Gibson knew at the time that he was playing with fire. When asked if he thought people would be offended by his comments, he replied: “Probably, but they are inbred. If you look at the names in Norfolk, there’s a lot that are the same.”
Is this why politicians are such pigs? So many husband and wife MPs keeping it in the family?
The Lib dems always seem quite fluffy and harmless but in reality they are just shitty and useless.
The comment about the BBC/Government using Swine Flu to cover for imminent total economic collapse and certain ensuing social dosorder is correct.
“Concerning the total trade of Member States, the largest surplus was observed in Germany (+36.8 bn euro in January-April 2009), followed by Ireland (+12.7 bn) and the Netherlands (+11.6 bn). The United Kingdom (-31.2 bn) registered the largest deficit, followed by France (-20.3 bn), Spain (-17.5 bn), Greece (-9.5 bn) and Portugal (-5.3 bn).”
http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_PUBLIC/6-17072009-BP/EN/6-17072009-BP-EN.PDF
The UK is bust; hundreds of thousands of govt. workers and other public workers will be sacked outright; pay cuts will be imposed on the rest; public pensions will be defaulted on; social disorder will ensue due to a population unable to face reality and having had comforting lies spewed to them since birth via schooling and the media. Swine Flu will be used for National Emergency status and possibly Martial Law, with compulsory vaccination.
Well spotted. Eurostat added to the list of the Bank of England, the World Bank, the OECD and the IMF – all of whom say we’re fucked.
But Broon knows best, he says we should be making ‘investments’…
WE ARE FUCKING BANK.RUPT, ELECTION NOW PLEASE!!!
“Vaccination” will be a cover for a mass euthanasia project to ensure that NuLieBour become the sole party, by eliminating the opposition.
Two things.
1. “Defectors” very rarely turn out to be any good other than the initial “get it up you” impact (and then usually end up being sources of fun for the opposition)
and 2. Where is Prestons blog?
Mr Cameron said: “I am delighted to welcome Chamali and Chandila to the Conservative party. “It is very pleasing that two people who have played such an active role at the highest level in the Liberal Democrats ” Huh?
Sorry, I said earlier they were husband and wife.
Sorry about this but I really have never ever heard an interview like this before.
Youtube clip of the newly selected Labour Candidate for Reading West, Naz Sarkar, being interviewed on Radio Berkshire’s Andrew Peach
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/
such intelligence and articulation, no doubt he probably has a first class liebour honours degree too.
12 years of liebour, you couldn’t make it up, no wonder this country is disintegrating before your very eyes.
I gave up trying to count the number of ‘you knows’ in that interview. Yoofspeak innit.
So either this man was the best available.
Or it’s an admission of inevitable defeat.
Good riddance. If he can’t tell the difference between free market anything goes conservatism and a more healthy scepticism of big businesses exploiting monopoly power, or between opportunistic Cameroon and a real belief in civil liberties & green issues, he doesn’t belong.
That’ll be those sour grapes kicking in then?
You can never trust a defector.
Was it opportunism, or something else…….
The only party switcher who came good in my time was Winston Churchill, and he came good, not because of it, but in spite of it.
Nothing will change until the main three parties are destroyed by the electorate.
Cameron is Blair is Cameron is Blair.
The status quo in our politics is stifling.
New Labour for 12 feffing years followed by Blue Labour for how long?
Nah, don’t worry. they’re not blue labour. More of an orange.
The babe in the pic is really good looking. I might vote Tory now.
Who are these people? MP’s, Councillors, road-sweepers?
You don’t say.
The Fernando manifesto in the Lib Dem presidential election was by far the best. Opik’s was okay, but that of the person who won was absolutely terrible. The Lib Dems are crazy to promote mediocrity and drive away talent.
Having been to school with Chandila, I can confirm that he will be a fantastic asset to the Conservative Party, having both the smelliest chat and the smallest brain of any man I have ever met
Cameron shud tell these opportunist s to fuck off. If it was 1997 they wud be all over nu Labour. They have no principles except their own self advancement. Pathetic .
Where’s the surprise?
Daisy and his fags are as soft on terrorism, immigration and the EU as any Lib-Dem heart bleeder.
In fact, Daisy’s to the left of Blair, let alone Clegg.