July 17th, 2009

5.4 Million Unemployed, 17.3% or 1 in 6

Officially there are 2.38 million unemployed, in reality there are 5.4 million not in work who should be available for work. That is equivalent to 17.3%, or one-in-six of the labour force.  The left leaning economist Chris Dillow argues that capitalism can’t provide enough work to go round.  In reality it is only economic growth that can provide jobs.  You can’t tax and subsidise your way to sustainable economic growth…


1,435 Comments

  1. 1

    While more stick is unfortunately needed at the top, I believe, more carrot is needed at the bottom. People need real jobs to go to and pleasant environments to aspire and develop. I hope the government accepts this and modifies their plans accordingly.

    A lot of folks will be jittery about the short-term economic issues but a calmer political climate can help. By being less distracted by this, hopefully, businesses will invest in creating opportunity and neglected communities will be given equal status as stakeholders in UK PLC.

    Stay on mission, believe in Labour and we’ll get through this, folks.

    • 4
      Charles Flaccidwidger says:

      Can I have some of what you’re on?

      • 7
        Aaron A Aardvark says:

        It’s only meths.

        • 113
          Observer says:

          More like crystal meth.

        • 726
          Scorched Earth says:

          Do you never tire of writing lies and limpdick NewLabour PR talking points Softwidge ?

          What part of record rises in unemployment do you need explained to you ?

          Losing your job in a crippling recession isn’t a short term issue and neither is catastrophic levels of Government debt that MUST be paid down or the IMF will come calling and the soverign debt rating will collapse putting Britain into an even bigger death spiral than it’s in right now.

          You can “stay on meesage” all you like with your fellow little twatty PR drones but the cold hard fact is the Brown is simply not trusted or believed by the British public. The Labour polls are still flatlining every week telling even the most stupid of Labour Apparatchiks that Brown and Labour are completelyfucked as long as he is PM.

        • 1115
          labour for the few says:

          think nu labour have achieved something…..

          macdonalds are moving their world hq from london to geneva.

          with all the taxes,jobs etc that go with it.

          lets stay with labour message and we can completely destroy britain.

      • 36
        R.McGeddon says:

        “more carrot is needed at the bottom.”

        Yes, Mr. Halfwit, three pounds of very long carrot is needed to ram up your 8rsehole in order to prevent all the verbal diarrhoea cascading out.

        • 1093
          MI6 says:

          Truth is the Economy is Bankrupt. Gordon has overegulated and overtaxed business, You see his government Knackers forget that small business can’t survive under their fiscal policy. Energy is to expensive mate 35% more than anywhere else, thats why they can milk cows more cheaply on the continent and thats why they are shutting steel works at Teeside. You Public school Politicians don’t know fu-k all about business and have shut the factory gate. Sorry for all of the lads being paid off, but these ars- holes have overtaxed and we can’t compete.
          Lagest UK windmill manufacutrer closes
          Japanese Trains for UK
          Corus Steel closes.

          How many more before you cut your Tax.

          Oh I forgot you need it for the WAR.

          I wonder who the fu-k going to pay for the NHS or new helicopters in Afganistan

      • 66
        Anonymous says:

        It is that conFounded Laffer Curve

        • 182
          young Mr Paul says:

          Well in Ireland unemployment is a step up the economic ladder, three kids gets you the equivalent of 55k euros a year salary

          http://www.independent.ie/national-news/it-can-pay-to-stay-at-home—836442000-a-year-to-be-precise-1826386.html

          I wonder if someone could check out how much better off you are being unemployed in the UK?

        • 1094
          MI6 says:

          Forgot to say. THAT War has not half been an expensive Fu-k up. The next time we have a one., Lets make sure that its politicians kids are in the front line, they may take it a bit more seriously the next time and not drag us into something that might just bankrupt the country. I wonder how many more knight hoods and massive bonuses will be given out too bankers and economists to keep their mouths shut.

      • 725
        Ripsnorter says:

        Me first, – is it expensive?

        • 806
          Nearly Headless Nick says:

          Charles E. Hardwidge actually strikes me as a hugely ironical spoofer.
          He publishes loads of New Labour “Newspeak” in order that saner members of society can see the awful claptrap that the Left put out disguised as policy.
          Virtually everyone of his posts, if viewed correctly, show how contrived, banal and idiotic is the rhetoric which routinely emerges from New Labour lips.
          Personally I enjoy his tongue in cheek postings!

    • 5
      thick as thieves says:

      nah, what we need to do charles is get that carret and shove it right up you arse.
      you are the enemy of the people charles, you are a war criminal.
      I will be happy to hang you if the courts allow.

      • 16
        Iaaiin Dale's anus says:

        IAAIIN DALE HERE! JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, AND TO CONFIRM THE RUMOURS, THAT I’M GAY!!

        YEP, WHO’D HAVE THOUGHT IT! ANYWAYS, MUST RUN! HAVE A TV INTERVIEW TO DO! BE PINK! I AM GAY! RENT-A-QUOTE GAY IAIN DALE! THANK YOU!

        MWAH XXXXXXXXXXX

        • 20
          jgm2 says:

          Thank you Ian.

          We’ll let you know.

        • 40
          anon says:

          ONCE I LIVED IN CAPITALS
          MY LIFE INTENSELY PHALLIC

          but now i’m sadly lowercase
          with the occasional italic

          italic Roger McGough

        • 116
          Observer says:

          Well, if you’re going to ‘come out’ you might as well do it in style. Thanks, Iian.

        • 150
          Brown takes it up the pooper and so does Sarah says:

          Iain, I had a strange feeling that you were a Gay. My Gaydar must have been turned off. So as a Gauy have you ever fucked Brown and Mandy
          or cum in Tony’s mouth

        • 287
          Cloyingly sanctimonious says:

          You wouldn’t say that to a man, would you. Oh no, you wouldn’t, you ismist person you.

          And that tie, hardly Bvlgari darlink

        • 563
          stu says:

          yawn

      • 41
        no longer anonymous says:

        TwAT speaks some sense for a change

      • 133
        TwAT says:

        Rare sensible words from you TwAT.

        You’re still a raging fucknut though.

      • 1047
        Goat says:

        Your a dick who crayons all over the walls, the bog seat, your own fucking pram and this site. And you are offering advice about how to deal with Hardwidge who is obviously taking the piss? The difference is your not taking the piss. You are actually a Hoon. If you are taking the piss then your shite at it and should give up.

        Fucking lunatic.

        • 1102
          thick as thieves says:

          said the man spending his precious time responding to a ‘lunatic’.
          oh, and I identified charles hardwidge as a tory fifth columnist some time ago.
          I am merely bashing the trolls brains out for fun.
          do try to keep up.
          honestly, you cripples are so slow.
          run faster or you will never keep up slowcoach!

    • 6

      I note, that the stronger my argument the more the substance of alternative views drops off and the more personal attacks rise. Oddly, the most wild conspiracy theories and smears are let through on the nod by the same people when it suits their agenda.

      • 10
        Aaron A Aardvark says:

        When you’re lying on your deathbed (hopefully not in an NHS hospital under Labour, or you’ll be quenching your thirst with green water from a vase), do you think you’ll reflect on a life well lived?

      • 15
        What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

        I’m not interested in discussing people I’ve actively disengaged from nor timewasting with your devils advocacy. Giving their crap credance and not listening to a single word I’ve said about discussion versus debate is something you might want to reflect on before opening your gob.
        Charles Hardwidge @ 2:31 am, Fri 5th Jun 2009

        • 359
          Chapps says:

          NU Labour is just pure CANCER.

        • 1433
          get Gordon sectioned says:

          If there was ever a case for ‘assisted suicide’ Gordon Brown and the Labour Party should prove the point! For God’s sake GET THEM OUT OF OFFICE NOW! I love how they say they are in ‘power’ – WRONG GORDON- you are in OFFICE, NOT BLOODY POWER!! What a twat!

      • 53
        Budgie says:

        The stronger your argument, CEH? You don’t “argue” and you don’t debate, you just spout Tennants and weed powered ZaNu sound bites and propaganda.

      • 162
        grandma B says:

        Well done Charles (NB not a hint of a personal attack here). You’ve convinced me – I’m going to vote Tory.

      • 702

        Charles_E_Hardwidge’s page aka http://www.labour.org.uk/ has at least TWENTY-TWO different flash applications on one page – I gave up counting. Fortunately, my trusted Firefox flash-zapper ensured they were not running. Labour seem as capable of designing a web page as they are running the country.

      • 1117
        charles'cos i have screwed up my life i want everybody to be poor' hardwidge says:

        keep at it you nut job.

        there is a job vacancy in the cuban department of cleansing

    • 11
      Merlin's Ghost says:

      What are you, a useful idiot?

      • 96
        Anonymous says:

        More like a useless idiot.

      • 799
        Mr Ned says:

        That is the official label given to the public (and non graduate public workers) by that “charity” Common Purpose. That rabidly anti democratic marxist organisation are actively and treasonously attacking the fabric and constitution of this nation and we must all stop them.

        • 1154
          Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

          Wasn’t ‘useful idiots’ the name given by Lenin to the idealists who were to be used for as long as they retained their illusions, but to be discarded and probably liquidated as soon as they realised what was really going on?

          If so, Common Purpose betray themselves.

    • 26
      The Baiter's Master says:

      Labour do not create jobs they destroy them. Brown has no notion of markets, manufacturing or providing a service. In essence Brown as PM is the equivalent to having Dixon of Dock Green taking on the Mafia. We were promised “an end to boom and bust” where we are now economically, tragically speaks for itself…….

      • 31
        Master Baiter says:

        It started in America and it’s now ripping the heart out of the place.
        Watch the tears flow down their dirt smeared faces.

        • 56
          Right-wing social engineer says:

          You are a cock Master Baiter, we know where you live and when your protector, Mr Brown, is removed from power we will hunt you down and ram a pylon up your sewer.

        • 65
          Putin says:

          If it started in America, why did Gordon not acknowledge that the USA eliminated boom and bust? You cannot have it both ways -sorry you can in Labourland.

          The IMF’s latest reprt also disagrees with this myopic view.

        • 69
          Budgie says:

          What “started in America”? Hotdogs? The recession in the UK is primarily fueled by the property boom and bust, and individual and government debt. Gordoom is responsible for three of those (boom, bust, government debt) and encouraged personal indebtedness by example and exhortation.

          The USA, the Eurozone and the UK separately went into recession. The UK helped to cause the global meltdown (London is the biggest financial centre in the world). Gordoom is the cause, not the victim.

        • 93
          Master Baiter says:

          Ahh yes that disaster has occurred coincidentally, if you’re convinced that is a fact there is no point in discussing it with you becasue you are entirely stupid or more likely deranged.

        • 94
          Socialism is a cult says:

          So did the swine ‘flu. Doesn’t matter where ‘it’ started; excess borrowing (in the good times) by Government starting with the desire to win after 2001 and the failure to observe the ‘golden rule’ thereafter, left the country dangerously vulnerable.

          The Iceberg that ripped the Titanic started in Greenland. The lack of lifeboats was the criminal folly.

        • 100
          Brown Knows Best says:

          So if capitalism is kaput and collapsing around us thanks to the global credit crunch which was nothing to do with Gordon, socialists should have the perfect replacement in a central command economy.

          So why is Gordon doing everything he can to prop up the capitalist system rather than usher in a new world order socialist economic solution when this is the perfect opportunity?

          The global economic genius not up to it eh, or just not a proper socialist, or just a selfist?

        • 106
          Great Granddad says:

          It started in the City of London. AIG Financial Products Ltd., is American owned but is a British Company, with a British banking licence. There was only one place on earth where it could do what it did, and that place was London. The FSA paid it no attention; it was a bank doing absolutely no banking. The federal Insurance Regulator paid it no attention: it was a British bank. AIG was too busy counting the profits to pay any attention to how they were being made. The Treasury was happy; the taxes were rolling in very nicely.

          Without AIGFP the crisis could not have ballooned to the extent that it did. Without them less bubbly would have been consumed and Ferrari would have sold less cars. McBruin would have had less money to spend on crackpot schemes, although that might not have stopped him spending anyway. This all started in London, with some assistance from Edinburgh.

        • 125
          barefootcontessa says:

          Great GD, good thinking, well said.

        • 159
          Robin Hoodie says:

          Looks like the Americans have all our Helicopters as well.

          At least McMental has promised to spend £6BN in the next decade in addition to the existing “Helicopter Fund”. Straight after the Referendum on Europe apparently.

        • 810
          Nearly Headless Nick says:

          Ferrari would have sold less cars.

          Grammar, grammar!
          It should be FEWER cars.
          Less applies to quantity, fewer applies to number.

      • 183
        Rant Against The Machine says:

        No its the equivalent to a useless spoilt student coming out of university having immersed himself in the writings of discredited and delusional socialists and nothing else, thereafter going straight into Politics with no experience of the workplace or real life in General and bullying himself up the greasy Pole of a Political system noted for its nepotism, and cronyism coupled with utter hypocricy, and finally becoming the leader of this party ( without and election) before stealing the pensions of millions and utterly ruining the countries economy in the process whilst living a cosited existence where even ones lightbulbs are paid for by the taxpayer. I think that is a better comparison.

        • 355
          Troll Basher says:

          Spot on. Brown to a fookin tee

        • 670
          Any Mouse says:

          +++Laughs+++ Quite right RATM…

          Well said Grandad. AIG Mayfair was central to the global financial collapse and where were the FSA when needed? Piano wire, lamposts and Brown spring to mind.

        • 761
          See You Next Tuesday says:

          Great stuff granddad.

          Between 2002 – 2004, Brown deliberately reduced the stringency of banking regulations in the UK. He did this in a lame-brained effort to counter the effects of the repeal of the Glass Steagall Act in 1999, which made Wall Street more attractive to many institutions in the City.

          Gordon was saying, in effect, ‘My regulatory climate is softer than anywhere else so bring your business here.’ This is why so much Russian and drug money came through London – there were almost no safeguards. I could tell you stories to make your hair curl … This culminated, as any semi-literate economist could have predicted, in a gold rush, and then a credit bubble. AIG Financial Products Ltd was a part of that.

          The epicentre of the current problems was in London. Thank you Gordon. You moron.

      • 520
        English Liberation Front says:

        Don’t insult Dixon of Dock Green. He had more integrity in one fingernail than Brown and his whole Cabinet of All The Idiots.

        And he wasn’t a New Labour placeman like those Stasi shits in ACPO.

        Those who look to Labour for anything of hope stare into the abyss. They are the unwanted urine stains on the underpants of Britain.

        • 811
          Nearly Headless Nick says:

          But he wasn’t REAL – unfortunately Cyclops & his crew are!

      • 867
        Anonymous says:

        The bust was the fault of the criminally incompetent banker who had no idea what they were buying

        Theirs and theirs alone (do you really believe hey would have told the truth to any regulator when they couldn’t understand the question?)

    • 86
      Jam Master Zen says:

      ohh, charlie talk some zen. i love it when you talk mindless eastern psuedo wisdom. Zen’s great cos at its heart its anything to anyone drivel that can be used to make the speaker sound, umm, spiritual.

    • 101
      a touch of the beeboids says:

      “….note, that the stronger my argument….”

      Surely you mean the stranger my argument, you fucking looney tune.

      BTW, how many converts do you have now from this blog? I’ll save you the trouble, it’s a big fat zero. What a waste of oxygen you are.

      • 115

        This is the internet: some people make wild claims and finger point but it’s just so much blah. Britain, like the overall comment in this blog, sucks for a reason.

        I’m willing to bet that at least half of the people on this site agree with me, but they’re too scared of standing up to the mob.

        Be still, grasshopper.

        • 127
          caesars wife says:

          but not in norwich ?

        • 137
          Anonymous says:

          Your posts can’t be ‘agreed with’ as they have no meaning. The Labour Party itself has ceased to stand for anything, so ’supporting’ it is just saying ‘we want those guys, not these guys; fuck the policies.’

        • 166
          Budgie says:

          Who wants to agree with a maudlin statist on too much Tennants and dope?

        • 321
          Aaron A Aardvark says:

          Is this really the Internet? Really? Fuck, I had no idea.

          Yeah, you’re right – I don’t agree with you on this site or the others would beat my brains out.

          Oh, no, hang on..

        • 325
          Aaron A Aardvark says:

          By the way, for your information, the reason Britain sucks; we got a Labour government in 1997, and they trashed the place.

        • 372
          Aethelred says:

          The reason you don’t post your shite nulabour half-witted propaganda sound-bites only on nulabour sites is that you know full well that hardly anyone goes to nulabour sites, because everyone knows that nulabour are shite and need to go and now.

          Get it through your thick fucking head that if no one goes to labour sites to read your shite, they particularly don’t want to read that shite here.

        • 671
          Grasshopper says:

          On Liebours understanding of figures, I take that as meaning 99% don’t agree with you… keep trying though.

        • 1119
          charles'iv screwed uo my life so i want everybody to be poor' hardwidge says:

          he has a point,they are too scared to be a labour along with 80 % of the population.

          after 10am so most nutters are on the bevvie

        • 1148
          Anonymous says:

          Charles let me tell you my position with regards yourself lest you misunderstand. You are a fucking arsehole. There I trust that leaves you in no doubt.

        • 1204
          Anonymous says:

          Charles,

          Why don’t you run your own blog rather than infect everyone else’s. At least you would get a clear idea of how much your views are reflected amongst other readers. At the present time you’re only get abuse hurled at you and your ideas.

          How about a title ” Hardwidge on …..” You are after all one of the leading software writers in the UK.

          Alternatively just fuck off.

        • 1367
          Grasshopper says:

          Hop along now, Charles…

    • 134
      caesars wife says:

      being as the specials have reformed could update eigthies classic “i am a one in ten ” zanupf labour mix “i am a one in 6″

      importing cheap consumer goods to make the infaltion figs lie was perhaps a mistake !!

      look at the roice we now have to pay to get back to sound money

      • 171
        The Specials did Ghost Town says:

        1 in 10 was UB40

        • 210
          Steve Expat says:

          An even more appropriate band…

        • 239
          caesars wife says:

          mmm you right my appologies

          oh my god i just remebered Red Red wine and dancing with someone who i never knew the name of , still haunts me

        • 279
          The Specials did Ghost Town says:

          If you remeber it you weren’t there man

        • 775
          Bill d'Sarse says:

          I remember the song but couldn’t recall all of the lyrics, so I looked them up. I reckon UB 40 should release an updated version (as suggested, 1 in 6) as the lyrics fit very well to the situation we now find ourselves in. For those who don’t remember:

          I am the one in ten
          A number on a list
          I am the one in ten
          Even though I don`t exist
          Nobody knows me
          Even though I`m always there
          A statistic, a reminder
          Of a world that doesn`t care

          My arms enfold the dole queue
          Malnutrition dulls my hair
          My eyes are black and lifeless
          With an underprivileged stare
          I`m the beggar on the corner
          Will no-one spare a dime?
          I`m the child that never learns to read
          `cause no-one spared the time

          (chorus)

          I am the one in ten …. etc

          I`m the murderer and the victim
          The licence with the gun
          I`m a sad and bruised old lady
          In an ally in a slum
          I`m a middle aged businessman
          With chronic heart disease
          I`m another teenaged suicide
          In a street that has no trees

          (chorus)

          I am the one in ten …. etc

          I`m a starving third world mother
          A refugee without a home
          I`m a house wife hooked on valium
          I`m a pensioner alone
          I`m a cancer ridden spectre
          Covering the earth
          I`m another hungry baby

          I`m an accident of birth.

          (chorus)

        • 851
          Any Mouse says:

          UB40 reunion, please. This time 1 in 6!

    • 141
      Purpleline says:

      Can you please let me know the name of your Drug dealer

    • 153
      Robin Hoodie says:

      So why are Labour planning to bring legislation to control shower heads pressures throughout the Country?

      Isn’t the economic situation bad enough with out being distracted by saving water, in a Country that has plenty of water.

      Not like we are all going to take baths and use more water.

      WATER PRESSURE AT THE SHOWER HEAD, SHOULD BE A MATTER OF CHOICE.

      Most of us are on Meters, and you bastards are planning to put the whole Country on Meters as well!!

      • 206
        This is not an aspirational handle says:

        Eh? So millions of perfectly good showers have to be replaced, and how many perfectly good bathrooms where the units are concealed behind the tiles have to be torn down completely? (Do you have any matching spare tiles)? In Scotchland it has been zanu liebore policy to install central heating in every household – in Scotchland mind you, not in England.

        There are many showers where the pressure is determined solely by the mains pressure. Are the water companies going to be told what pressure they must operate? And how many people are going to be reduced to a trickle when they open the tap?

        And does Ed the demented lesser milipede really want to get in the shower with me? Or you?

        And as for “smart” electricity meters that Darling Alistair promised us this Easter that we all have to pay to have installed – they’ll be right useful when power has to be rationed. Towards the end of the next (Tory) government.

      • 240
        Anonymous says:

        I suggest you have a lie down.

      • 753
        What a Shower of Shit says:

        WHAT???

        They can prise my Stuart&Turner Monsoon 3.5 bar shower pump from my cold dead hands.

        • 853
          Chuckie 'Alzheimer' Heston says:

          Cold, dead hands? Those Stuart & Turner shower pumps not much cock then?

      • 781
        The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976 says:

        “in a Country that has plenty of water.”

        Perhaps so now, but in a dry summer in the south and east predominantly, there is not. Add to that the ten million new immigrants ZaNuLab intend to import over the coming years, water shortages will become an annual event.

        Expect rationed water to become very, very, expensive too, this government are truly evil.

      • 1088
        Anonymous says:

        To control the people you have to control the food, heat and water supply and housing, so through mass immigration housing has gone through the roof, and with water metering we live in fear or massive bills just to live. Its the way the Marxists like it. We need to realise that water meters are being used as a weapon against us and we need to stop them being implemented.

        We are the rainiest country in Europe and water should be free. Otherwise use water butts and recycle waste water.

        See how water can fuel cars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBm8ogwnpG0

    • 175
      Mr_Fraud says:

      So Charles any thoughts on Browns failure to rescue 600 jobs on the IOW in that area so important to Labour, Green Power. Thought not. Sad really that you still believe in these hoons.

      Oh well its nice to see you have given up on Labourlist, most of use have given up on Labour.

    • 181
      Atlas shrugged says:

      capitalism can’t provide enough work to go round.

      CEH, you are an ignorant Hoon, of the first order.

      Take this from someone that is talking from a lifetime of experience and REAL knowledge of how things actually work.

      Capitalism can do virtually anything it wishes. It can fund, start and finish wars, bribe politicians, create political ideologies, ( like for example socialism, fascism, and communism ) , start and finish corporations, apart from many other things.

      However capitalism itself can not actually create wealth. Wealth is created by a properly functioning FREE-MARKET. Capitalism is simply a device for creating LIQUIDITY. Corporate Capitalism, especially the type you love so very much which is FASCISM, is inherently inefficient. So much so, that there always over top heavy pyramid command and control structures need desperately to conspire with government, within an overt or covert conspiracy, simply to survive REAL competition from the bottom.

      CC is so enormously inefficient compared to small companies that it desperately needs to create Monopolies in order to make a profit at all, and therefore survive.

      Extremely large corporations, more commonly known as multi-national conglomerates are therefore usually controlled from the very top by an elite criminal class, long since known as BANKSTERS. Who know little about anything, other then how to utterly corrupt another elite criminal class, long since known as top democratically elected or otherwise politicians.

      Gordon Brown is one of these types of characters. Although P. Mandelson and K. Clark and there mates, make Gordon Brown look like an innocent child by comparison.

      In SHORT, capitalism as this world now knows it, is COMMUNISM at the highest levels, when not also being FASCISM or straight forward feudalism.

      Freedom is PROPERTY RIGHTS under the protection of a written constitution, backed up by simple common law, sound money, and a healthy respect for common humanity.

      Which is clearly something your beloved Gordon does not respectively believe in, or have.

      • 222
        Short and sweet says:

        Yes.

      • 386
        Atlas farted says:

        You are the living embodiment of the maxim that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

        There is no essential difference between multi-national corporations and small one-man businesses, they exist on a continuum, and it is in the nature of businesses to grow and become monopolies. Society needs to regulate this, of course. There is no real difference, other than scale and success.

        Gordon loves rich companies and people, but for some reason he hates allowing anyone to get there.

        • 522
          Allan@Aberdeen says:

          Small one-man businesses are run by the man who is, within certain limits, responsible for the success or failure of his business. The money he earns is his money, to be spent usefully or otherwise, but still his money. The next size up is private-limited companies, and the owners are responsible for the success or failure, and for the distributions of earnings: their money.
          The multi-nationals are run by people who award themselves with other people’s money. The Establishment loves multi-national companies because it too lives off other people’s money. Look at the ease with which those in the upper levels of the multi-nats and government move effortlessly from one to the other.

        • 584
          Darcy says:

          Excellent, Socialism in this Country summed up!

        • 881
          Atlas shrugged says:

          I dont disagree with your analysis, why do you wish to appear to disagree with mine?

          Yes of course society should try its up-most to reduce ALL monopoly power.

          There is indeed legislation on the books to actually do this.

          The point is that it is clearly not happening, and socialism is the key as to why.

          The whole point of NATIONALIZATION is the creation of simply massive monopolies. The NHS being just one of them.

          These monopolies are created, by corrupted or incredibly ignorant socialist government.s Then vast sums of money are borrowed to establish them, from the BANKSTERS. Then when said BANKSTERS deliberately create a financial crisis, they buy them all back again for virtually piss all. This process is often made easier by the actions of others such as Arther Scargil. Who bankrupt or make un-managable, anything they get near.

          This is called THE SYSTEM.

          It is said by those that should surly know, that 90% of the corporate power of this planet is controlled by only 4 very large multi-national conglomerates. I have no way of confirming this, but it seems like a fair number to me.

          Even if it was far more, the temptation for them to conspire together, and the lack of any form of independent world power to stop them. Would mean that they would have to be collectively insane NOT to conspire together, against the interests of their customers, and workers. Which, one way or another, is all of us.

        • 918
          The Noble Bastiat says:

          couldn’t have put it better myself

          http://www.econlib.org/library/Bastiat/basEss1.html

          worth a read i reckon if you need some antisocialist silver bullets.

        • 1045
          Dixie Dean says:

          Post 373″a little knowledge is a dangerous thing” Swift,always topped by Huxley’s quote”there is no man with so much knowledge as to be completly out of danger”. Me thinks you are the latter.

        • 1161
          Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

          #1012

          I’d always thought that quote (‘a little knowledge’) was from Pope (and I don’t mean Benedict the Umpteenth):-

          ‘A little knowledge is a dangerous thing,
          Drink deep, or touch not the Pierian spring’

          …or some such.

          Now I’ll have to go and look it up.

      • 624
        Observer says:

        Free market capitalism has failed to deliver sufficient jobs. One in six people now jobless is totally unacceptable. That’s why Brown is moving us over to Flee Market Capitalism which should result in 100% employment, albeit with everyone living in squalid, abject poverty.

    • 200
      deeznuts says:

      Ive told you once you twunt, and im telling you again…listen this time…

      FUCK OFF YOU TWUNT

    • 262
      Grubby Gusset says:

      Once a wanker…always a wanker

      • 620
        Anonymous says:

        andrew mackay should know – he`s right behind Dave and the polls are soaring

    • 360
      Gordolph Brownler says:

      Is Charles Guido on a windup/traffic generating mission?

    • 420
      Labour for Fuckwits: says:

      pass the sicky bag…………

    • 466
      Pontius The Pilot says:

      The only necessary stick is the stick of dynamite that ought to be lit then shoved up Gordons big fat one eyed arse.

    • 706
      jean says:

      Nulabor inherited 12.5% growth from the conservatives – capitalism, real weath.

      The cost of ’socialist totalitarianism’ is three generational debt and ongoing borrowings.

      Blaming ‘capitalism’ pretty much confirms Guido’s site’s is under new management.

    • 745
      Man on the Clapham omnibus says:

      ADD A FEW MORE UNEMPLOYED

      UK rail inquiries moving to India

      ATOC says the move will lead to “significant savings”
      All calls to National Rail Enquiries will be handled by Indian call centres from next March……………

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8154261.stm

    • 756
      UK Fred says:

      People will do that which they are rewarded to do. Some things never change. If work is more rewarding than dole, then people will work, not sit around all day on the backsides whinging because the don’t get enough dole money to feed their drug habit and their family, so the family has to starve. But with ZaNu Lie Baaah screwing the economy again (cf MacDonald, Wilson, Callaghan if you need the history leson) then there soon won’t be enough to feed a family on the dole, let alone a drug habit, and people will have to work.

      The long terrm economic issue is that Lie Baah in its many incarnations has always been the party of the shirker, not the party of the worker. And the effects of the B-Liar mantra “Education, Education, Education” over the last 12 years has been to give employers a whole generation of school leavers who are incapable of doing anything useful when they leave school but think they are entitled to massive wages. In short, Richard Mottram described the whole country, and not just the lying government when he issued his famous dictum.

    • 809
      sog says:

      What are you on? I’m one of the hidden unemployed. With 39 years’ NI contributions I have no benefits, no help getting jobs and no help studying for a career change. I might have expected this from the Tories, but not after all these years of Labour.

    • 1153
      Ali Campbell says:

      I am the one in six
      A number on a list
      I am the one in six
      Even though I don`t exist
      Nobody Knows me
      But I`m always there
      A statistical reminder
      Of a world that doesn`t care

      My arms enfold the dole queue
      Malnutrition dulls my hair
      My eyes are black and lifeless
      With an underprivileged stare
      I`m the beggar on the corner
      Will no-one spare a dime?
      I`m the child that never learns to read
      `Cause no-one spared the time

    • 1261
      shelling-out says:

      I can’t believe you’re as stupid as you make out, Charles.

      If you honestly think that this government can get me employment, when it was this government’s complete and utter mismanagement which lost me my job of over 17 years in the first place, you really are a brick short of a load.

      I do not believe that I will get any form of employment under this government. I have applied for almost 100 jobs and had one interview.

      Stay on mission? Your’re one of the lucky ones. This Labour government funded your business (you said so in one of your comments) so the liklihood of you joining the unemployment queue is probably nil. Labour really do look after their own, don’t they!

      I’d give it up if I were you, Charles. You have absolutely no idea of what going on in the real world and your comments are starting to read like a book with half the pages missing.

    • 1266
      Thomas Aquinas says:

      Certainly in Isleworth, just outside London, there are two fat bastards and their wives who are playing at being full time councillors rather than doing honest work. A grateful nation pays them about £80,000 for not troubling themselves with work, plus the benefits they claim.

    • 1414
      agent58 says:

      IF YOUR UNEMPLOYEED SEE ABOUT STARTING YOUR OWN COMPANY.

    • 1432
      Anonymous says:

      Labour has fucked the country again, as it did with Wilson, Callaghan, Blair and now the latest sack of socialist shite, Brown.

      • 1435
        Blair's Mortgage Broker says:

        … that’s “pseudo-socialist shite” – even Broon doesn’t believe in real Socialism!

    • 1434
      Blair's Mortgage Broker says:

      It’s scary – the “Hardwidge” posts EXACTLY mimic Nu Labour spin!!! Well done! We need a good laugh these days.

  2. 2
    Call me Infidel says:

    Not to mention the 500,000 public sector employees that Zanu have taken on since 1997. Whoever runs the country after June 2010 is going to face a pretty dire situation.

    • 12
      jgm2 says:

      I think you will find it is closer to one million boxtickers, bedwetters and bastards who have been plucked from the obscurity of the dole queue and awarded a 30K a year job, an air-conditioned office, a parking space and a fucking clip-board.

      Fire each and every one of those fuckers and there is your structural deficit wiped out at a stroke.

      Of course absent that 60bn a year running costs being borrowed and pumped into the economy then there would have been no rampant house price inflation, no insane borrowing ‘cos our house ‘went up by 30K last year – lets release the equity and buy a BMW and a holiday in mauritius’, no massive bank borrowing, no massive increase in stamp duty, no unsustainable boom for Brown to brag about.

      And no fucking enormous bust for him to pretend is everybody elses fault except his own.

      The arsehole.

      • 14
        Merlin's Ghost says:

        It is 6 million. The total parasite is now six million waged from the taxpayer. ALL government job holders should get a net income, pay no tax thus relieving the need for 1 million HMRC employees. Also NO government waged person should be allowed to vote.

        • 24
          Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

          would all public employees also be barred from owning shares, having savings, owning property they don’t live in?

        • 76
          Budgie says:

          For every government job “created” nearly two are destroyed in the private sector.

      • 50
        Box-ticking Clock Watcher says:

        Let’s not be forgetting my gold-plated, inflation-proofed non-contributory Pension eh ??

      • 102
        Tin Foil-Lizard says:

        hmmm. lots of bullshit in there. ARe you a pointless troll too?

        One million. 30k. air conditioning?

      • 192
        Rant Against The Machine says:

        In another life many of these over officious “Fuckers” would be loading up cattle Trucks heading east !

        • 195
          Anonymous says:

          I shud also add that if many of those poor souls headed for oblivion had complained in any way shape or f orm to the “fuckers” with the clipboards then they would no doubt be subjected to a lecture about how “our staff are not here to be subjected to violence or abuse of any kind” and the Police called immediately to hasten their demise.

        • 714
          Costa del Dole says:

          LOWESTOFT DESERVES BETTER.

      • 976
        The Noble Bastiat says:

        mr budgie: that isn’t a hard and fast truth i’m afraid. the problem with allowing the government to decide what jobs are needed is that they are not necessarily the best people to decide those sort of things. once they use monies for one job those monies are not available to the private sector which is arguably better placed to make rational judgements about that based on self interest. governmental self interest also contributes to the poorness of their decision making as unpopular choices are sometimes necessary. basically, the government dictates that monies will be spent a certain way whereas the private sector can adapt and spend them in the best way.

        http://www.econlib.org/library/Bastiat/basEss1.html

    • 22
      Brownbadger says:

      If only Gordon Brown ( you know the deputy Prime Chancellor, the one with blood on his hands and no helicopters) were unemployed!

      • 28
        jgm2 says:

        The expectation is that public companies will be lining up to offer him directorships etc etc once the electorate have their say. We need to get organised now like they are in the US.

        Any company that gives Brown a job cleaning the shitter should be boycotted and put out of business. Likewise any company that employs anyone like Straw, Blunkett, Blair or any of those other mendacious, evil, truth-twisting bastards.

        Make them as unemployable as they would be were it not for the lack of principle and talent in the Labour Party that allows principle-free, talentless jackasses like Brown, Smith and Blunkett to become the government of the U-fucking-K. Can you imagine a more fucked up organisation that would allow such an experience-free bunch of fuckwits access to literally thousands of billions of pounds?

        Jesus.

        We’re fucked.

        • 34
          jgm2 says:

          Seriously. If any company employs these bastards, buy a couple of shares and go to their AGM’s and create hell.

          ‘Mr Chairman, this jackass Brown bankrupt the entire UK, he’s not fit to clean dog-shit from my shoes with a toothpick – why have you employed him…?’

        • 80
          Budgie says:

          Bliar for EU president; Brown for World Bank chief?

          Arrrghhhh!!!!

        • 130
          Observer says:

          Yes, Budgie. Many years ago, someone told me that it’s not what you know, it’s who you know that counts. At that time, I dismissed the remark as nonsense. Sadly, with the benefit of hindsight, it is now all too clear. The most powerful people in government (not just in the UK) are simply well-connected. They would never survive for 5 minutes in the real world with their total and abject lack of ability
          It’s a fucking disgrace.

        • 144
          barefootcontessa says:

          No, the gorgon wants to retire to darkest Africa where he will be able to live out his raison d’etre – and that is to be a presbyterian missionary, ministering and giving to the poor. A variation on the Mother Theresa theme.

          Did anyone hear the ding dong conversation on radio 4 this am between good old Quentin Letts and Joe Ash? (forgotten his surname), anyway he is an old fogey who’s been in the hoc for 30 years and is very anxious it should stay the same way it’s always been! Quentin gave him a very good run for his money.

        • 148
          barefootcontessa says:

          Not WELL connected surely! More, advantageously connected

        • 198
          nell says:

          Alas Budgie it may well happen!!

        • 204
          Anonymous says:

          You have to ask what company worth its Salt would want to employ Brown. Any that do must be corrupt as fuck !

        • 674
          Any Mouse says:

          At best, he’ll only do cruise ship speeches. No private company would employ such a liability/curse. Surely?

        • 822

          I wouldn’t go on any cruise ship, where Brown was the entertainment. It would sink, with massive loss of life!

        • 879
          Any Mouse says:

          True. His neo-socialist boom to bust speeches will sink any ship… Second thoughts, he’s unemployably doomed.

        • 959
          Any Mouse says:

          Got it! He can become a permanent exhibit in the Chamber of Horrors, Madame Tussauds. The wax is already thickening. Gordon, I’ve just solved your future employment dilemma…

    • 362
      Chapps says:

      Well there could be 500,000 out of a “job” for a start.

  3. 3
    thick as thieves says:

    REST IN HELL THE LABOUR PARTY – DIED 6TH JULY 2009
    DEATH DEATH DEATH
    VOTE LABOUR IF YOU ARE A BLACK MAGIC COCKSUCKER!

    • 18
      jgm2 says:

      I can’t fault that sentiment. Perhaps your heart is in the right place after all.

      • 138
        Observer says:

        I always thought he wasn’t so bad. Just got the date of Labour’s demise wrong by about 16 years.

        • 785
          thick as thieves says:

          er. no, I got the date exactly right, ’tis you who is wrong numbnuts.
          on that date the labour party made the final decision to double the initial and therefore main tax liability of the lowest earners in the country.
          that makes the labour party an utterly redundant organisation.
          devoid of purpose or point. oh, hold on, that’s not quite right…
          devoid of any other purpose other than to remain in power for the benefit and protection of its party members.
          that is why the labour party died on the 6th July 2009.
          DEAD DEAD DEAD
          GAME OVER.
          if gideon wasn’t such a daft c’unt he would announce the re-introduction of the 10p tax band. in fact he should go further than that, he should announce that the conservative party would extend that tax band to the first twelve thousand pounds earned.
          that would be clever politics.
          and as people on such low wages immediately spend 95% of their incomes the loss of tax earnings will go straight into the economy and will therefore be taxable as well.
          double bubble innit. win win fucking lovely!
          I really shouldn’t be helping the scum tories to write their manifesto though.
          dave already nicked my line about brown being a ditherer.
          I will have to accept that the thieving c’unt will nick this idea as well.
          oh well.

        • 989
          5pedo|5hort5 says:

          You have become more thick than thief…..are you and guid0 one in the same?

        • 1105
          thick as thieves says:

          people ask me that question on a regular basis. no comment.
          but never mind all that bollocks; the fact remains that the new labour war and occupation and torture party is stuffed full of war criminals.
          that is the fact of the matter.
          now, what say you, sir?

        • 1242
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          I say the probabilily of you being gu11d0 has been significantly enhanceed by your evasive and reticent response. Srategically, I can see how would want to do it – just one more decitful ploy for manipulating the poor fools that inhabit this so-called blog.

          fuck you

        • 1249
          Thick as thieves says:

          If I ever get my weasel little hands on you I’ll kick your arse you little internet molesting troll.

        • 1343
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          go tell it to yer Uncle Gu1d0 ya ugly fuck )!(

    • 19
      PT Barnum says:

      Stop encouraging people to vote Labour.

      • 170
        Budgie says:

        We need Direct Democracy. The politicians have failed.

        • 991
          5pedo|5hort5 says:

          Are you volunteering to physically go, among other places, to the likes of St Kilda to collect the votes, you simpleton.

        • 1056
          Budgie says:

          Once the million signatures are collected on the national petition (by post, in person or by internet) then a national referendum would be triggered. The votes in that referendum will be collected by ballot box as per a general or local election. Not too difficult, eh?

        • 1086
          5pedo|5hort5 says:

          That easy, eh *duh*

    • 35
      • 48
        See You Next Tuesday says:

        Don’t rely on Mercola. He is not a total wack job but his usual approach to take a little scientific info and stretch it to fit his (often commercial) prejudices.

        Stick to Coke.

        • 213
          Anonymous says:

          Ive always thought Coke is a perfect drug for the nu labour fantasy world. Overated yet making people think things are better than they are with the mundane suddenly taking on great significance. It also explains the celebrity world to a tee !

      • 84
        Dino says:

        Thanks for the link, have put it on my facebook page to spread the warning.

      • 145
        Observer says:

        Are the government going to make vaccination compulsory? Whatever, I’m not going to get a shot. If every other fucker is vaccinated, there’ll be no need for me to be. :-)

        • 435
          Labour for Fuckwits: says:

          The problem is going to get vaccinated you then catch MRSA. You will not find me going to hospital for a jab.

    • 42
      Dairy Milk Assortment Cocksucker says:

      Should I vote Labour too?

    • 271
      Anonymous says:

      Leaking the main thrust of the Conservative Party in this way is most unprofessional

  4. 7
    corruptionfighter says:

    You don’t need economic growth in Brown’s Fantasy Wonderland. All you need is a printing press to do “quantitative easing”.

  5. 9
    Merlin's Ghost says:

    Socialism is the cancer of the world. Goddam commie bastards.
    PROOF that New Labour’s Blair and Brown are Marxists following orders to destroy the UK.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk

    This amazing interview was done back in 1985 with a former KGB agent who was trained in subversion techniques. He explains the 4 basic steps to socially engineering entire generations into thinking and behaving the way those in power want them to. It’s shocking because our nation has been transformed in the exact same way, and followed the exact same steps.

  6. 17

    If politicians applied a more reason in their analysis and were more sensitive to the effects that their policies and attitudes have on other people things would be better. This should teach them something. In the meantime, Labour should keep on helping families through this difficult time and the Tories should apologise because they haven’t learned a thing.

  7. 23
    I Albion says:

    And the thousands more immigrants that are coming in,who Johnson” is losing no sleep over”will round the figures of nicely

  8. 25
    SS says:

    How do these Lefty types come to such false conclusions?They seem to be Logically Dyslexic.

    • 364
      Troll Basher says:

      socialism is one big fookin scam. the object is to keep their little clique in power. bribe the voters with their own money then take a massave cut for your self. surround yourself with sycophants and apologists and spies. but dey have been rumbled. unfortunately for dat twat Brown he is left holding the parcel.

      But da scam has gone too far. Even the Army is getting twitchy.

    • 416
      Dogically Lyslexic says:

      What?

    • 691
      Spock says:

      That is dislogical, Captain. By the way, I share something with Gordon Brown and Peter Mandelson in having two arses.

  9. 27
    Stephen B says:

    OK…so let’s assume that work is generally undertaken in response to some kind of demand (doesn’t need to be evil market demand where people have the temerity to want to spend their money – it could just as easily be a demand on the part of people for public services).

    If that is the case, then the creation of jobs for which there is no demand (however you want to quantify that) is singularly pointless. Why get people to work for no reason so that you can justify paying them? Why not just pay them? Same ends surely.

    • 365
      Troll Basher says:

      “OK”???

      Wat da fook is dis? A fookin self help group?

    • 1024
      The Noble Bastiat says:

      ahh, education standards have dipped chronically in the last 100 years. a wage is something earned. public services are often provided at a higher standard if they are private companies, i’m thinking BUPA versus the NHS as healthcare providers for instance. money only has the value we give it, ie so much ‘work’ EARNS so much ‘wage’. We should under no circumstance, just give money to people because, for whatever reason, they feel unable to work and earn. Even though we feel good for ‘helping’ and we stop people starving, we are actually creating benefits dependants because not working is addictive and the socialism fails to take account of human nature in that regard and design the benefits program in such a way that is only an option of last resort and only temporary. that is the heart of the unintended consequences of socialisms feelgood bullshit. The job creation you refer to is simply a ploy to use our tax money to make our current government look less incompetent than they are by inflating the falling employment figures.

      http://www.econlib.org/library/Bastiat/basEss1.html

      • 1049
        5pedo|♣5hort5 says:

        You need pyschiatric help you pretentious hypocritical moron.

        • 1061
          Budgie's socialist moron says:

          Duh, yew tells im 5pedo, duh, it tacks reel branes to putt poynts loik that, duh.

      • 1171
        Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

        This comment saddens me. Whilst deferring to no-one in my detestation of central-command economies, I simply cannot throw out all aspects of the welfare state which, even though I believe it has grown to excess, springs from roots that express something valuable about Britishness.

        The British ideal of fair play extended to helping those less fortunate than oneself. After all, many aspects of life are a lottery and there is something unpleasant in the sight of the winners riding off into the sunset laughing carelessly, while their disabled brothers lie about unable to move.

        The strong British support for charities of all kinds bears out the suspicion that this is a national characteristic.

        The old workhouse movement sprang from a national sense, informed by the then prevailing religion, that the poor and disabled should not be left to starve. Christianity may have lost its formal grip on our lives, but many of its tenets live on in wider cultural attitudes.

        The problem, it seems to me, lies between the nationalisation of the charitable impulse on the one hand (nationalisation is almost always destructive), and the patchy ineffectiveness of solely charitable works on the other. When it was left to individual conscience whether or not to support the poor, many starved often through no fault of their own. Yet the nationalised system provides perverse incentives for idleness and freeloading. (Such ideas were common even in the days of the Poor Law, when parishes were responsible for their own poor.)

        When the monasteries provided help to the poor, a monarch thought he knew better and overthrew them. When charities and local initiatives set up hospitals the appalling Bevin thought he knew better and nationalised them, with results we rue to this day.

        Nationalisation turns a welfare institution that people feel an obligation to support into one for which they no longer feel responsible and see only as a source of support for them. The flow of responsibility is reversed, shifting from the individual to the state. This cannot be good.

        What I think is needed is not a knee-jerk rejection of all welfare, but a serious examination of the needs to be met and the means available to meet them. In both cases the outcome might be a reduction in handouts. Once we decide that (eg) free accommodation for single mothers is a stupid encouragement to irresponsible pregnancy, we might reduce the welfare bill markedly as well as introducing a generation to the idea that rights have to be matched by responsibilities.

        • 1420
          the noble bastiat says:

          i certainly didn’t mean to upset you and i think you mistook my meaning regarding welfare. i merely suggest that it should be temporary, and an option of absolute last resort rather than a lifestyle choice which it is for a lot of people these days. you don’t help by the poor by condemning them to be poor and dependent for all their lives but by offering the chance to work hard, earn, save and enjoy. i appreciate your good intentions but they seem wrongheaded.

          http://www.econlib.org/library/Bastiat/basEss1.html

  10. 29
    SS says:

    It’s Governments putting a floor on things that prevents price clearing.Minimum wage is a Union ploy to prevent larger numbers of lesser skilled workers from doing the same job as their unionised clientel.

  11. 37
    jgm2 says:

    Seriously. If any company employs these bastards, buy a couple of shares and go to their AGM’s and create hell.

    ‘Mr Chairman, this jackass Brown bankr*pt the entire UK, he’s not fit to clean dog-shit from my shoes with a toothpick – why have you employed him…?

  12. 38
    snotgobblersunited aka raith rovers says:

    Remember this is Labour. 5.4 million is a substantial part of their electorate. If they can scare them enough to get of their sofas with rumours of tory cuts to their benefits, then they have half their work done. Just look at Glasgow as the lab of the plan, it’s worked there for 60 years. a chimp with a red rosette could get elected.

    • 58
      Twizzle says:

      Chimps with a red rosettes have already been elected in Glasgow for the last 60 years. Sarwan and Martin for two.

      And these twats still vote for them. F’ing unbelievable!!

    • 63
      Sun Tzu says:

      The benefit cuts are coming no matter who is in power – but my back of fag packet calcs show that this governmet will run out of cash as soon as November. Things will get pretty exiting then.

      • 112
        Budgie says:

        They should have and could have started cutting a year ago. Exit EU membership; scrap ID cards/database; scrap NHS spine; scrap A400M; simplification of tax system; bonfire of the Quangos; axe education depts – have school trusts and vouchers; halve number of politicians; axe DfID; axe 80 per cent NHS bureaucrats; axe tax credits – reintroduce low tax band; – there’s enough there for 200 billion savings.

      • 185
        Sarah says:

        Loved “The Art of War” – will you be writing a sequel?

        • 488
          Tzu Sun says:

          Yes: ‘The War of Art’.

        • 532
          Sarah says:

          LOL!

        • 893
          Von Clauswitz says:

          personally i totally disregarded mr tzu while researching my classic of military literature ‘On War’. i found the art of war to be stupid as hell. any soldier who thinks being told to ‘know thy enemy and thyself’ is profound is probably never gonna be much of a soldier. On War was infinitely more satisfying and could actually be useful to someone who might be thinking of a military career. As with so much philosophy, the western version is based on rationalism, the eastern on the appearance of profundity. just my 2p worth.

        • 1050
          5pedo|♣5hort5 says:

          I agree with you Von – it is a pile of pants. The art of War is a kiddies story aimed at juvenile minds.

  13. 39
    SS says:

    If anyone expresses themselves in terms of their ‘political beliefs’ I think you should bring them up short and point out to them the absurdity of what they just said.We need to teach our children to reach political conclusions.Buy them a copy of Atlas Shrugged.

  14. 43
    I never briefed that darling was for the chop, Tom Bradby, I'm honest Gordon says:

    Well it’s always been true, that every time some one gets something free, it is never free. Some one else has to pay, Money has to be earned no matter how clever you are to try to account for it otherwise.

    Every body knows these are the true figures any way, well most people on here any way.

    As I said in previous posts how many jobs has the minimum wage cost? This must have been a factor in the collapse of woolies too. Is this why many firms today cannot provide a real service to their customers because the cost of employing some one and all the on cost social costs is too great. Why would you want to start up a business here today any way. The correct business environment does not exist. The desire to ensure that parents can take paternity and maternity leave is greater than worrying about creating a business environment. We are and have been paying ourselves too much for too long.

    Things have to be earned but this culture is never taught. Every one is taught that they have a right to things.

    Labour have destroyed, as they always do, the good work done by previous tory administrations by their reckless spend spend spend policies. Always have and always will. Theirs as thatcher always said, is the politics of envy.

    • 117
      caesars wife says:

      i dont quite know why the hard left are trying to get the wealth debate fired up again , perhaps it detracts from there mistakes , but it just seems so weak to having ruined somthing that they alledgey supported all along , namely balanced national finances and low inflation , to now claim socialism is a triumph over failed capitalism , a failiure labour created on their watch.

      the interesting thing is how they have thrown everyones personal freedom and free speech on the bonfire to achieve it , standard marxist theory put into practice , transition to state control under the guise of optimal benefits for all .
      It is wonk despite these people being educated because , at some point the personal freedoms are so poor that the public reject state control , happens every time !

      however what Guido is pointing out is that the private market (that still has some freedoms) becomes the small donkey asked to caryy increasingly large loads of taxation to make state control work , till it quite literally breaks , which it is close to doing .

      Some jobs clearly are better under state control , i dont have a problem with that , but when it gets too big (and perhaps in this case more expensive) , it becomes a monster devouring individuals profits and freedoms to justify its existence .

      All examples of socialism or marxism have either being police states or ecnomic basket cases , and even if the left are hoping that many will forget what happens in leftest goverments , in the hope that new socialism will take off , they may find more people wanting a low tax lifestyle this time than they bargained for .

      the golden rule is you tell the people the truth and offer them the choice , that is what manfestos are for , you do not decieve the people into a wonk marxist construct without there say so .

      wonder if we are due for plethera of wonk ruinomics speil , being as the low inflation theories are now understood and accepted , they had better come up with someting more intelligable than this , Debt is certainly not wealth by any stretch of the immagination , not today , not tommorow, not now, not ever .

      • 197
        Glaswegian says:

        We do not have a truly capitalist economy in any West European country. We have arrived at a position whereby government’s share of the economy is invariably above 40% and populations have been conditioned to believe that public expenditure is beneficial.
        Rather than allow the survival of the fittest,governments have intervened to prop up lame ducks and have increased the money supply to give the illusion of growth. It has become the conventional wisdom that deflation is too horrible to contemplate so all currencies have been debased to protect governments from the consequences of true market forces. This has the consequence of destroying savings so that as the population ages more and more people will become dependent on the state for their survival.
        Until we intervene to reduce government spending and restore sound money many areas will sink into the despair and dependency which is endemic in the average Glasgow corporation housing estate.

    • 177
      Budgie says:

      Yes, Tory governments are more efficient than ZaNu governments, thats an historical fact. But all politicians tend to corruption and failure. We need Direct Democracy.

      • 203
        caesars wife says:

        i agree budgie , conservative ecnomics can be prone to corruption , perhaps direct democracy is the answer , but either way i want less politcians and think tanks on the pay roll , and open government .

        its all the marxits mind bending wonk spiv spin , its ruining our country and its people

  15. 44
    Master Baiter says:

    Oaf GuidOrcs,
    Your Thatcher era market based orthodoxies are over, kaputt, finished, ended, concluded, stopped, closed, halted, ceased, cancelled, terminated.
    Ask anyone other than the salivating Conservitude dimwits you rub up against like a mangy fly blown stinking cur.

    • 49
      Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

      As I said earlier today. “So Blair was wrong”.

      And What the FUCK is PFI supposed to be? one could ask that from any point of view from the political spectrum. In some respects I ask it from a point left of what brown appears to be. ie “if you’re spending taxpayers money, you should be in greater control of it than that

      • 51
        jgm2 says:

        Don’t feed the troll.

        • 62
          Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

          He shuts up when you ask him awkard questions

        • 72
          jgm2 says:

          That’s not ’shutting up’ that’s him successfully wasting your time by getting you to respond. He’s not trying to open a dialogue. He’s just getting you to waste your life pointing out the obvious lies in his pointless, inane shite.

          Just like Hardwidge.

          Let go. Let Guido mod the fuckers out or not but seriously CEH and MB are not here to listen to reason but to parrot lies and waste your time.

          Your choice if you want to feed the trolls.

        • 82
          Master Baiter says:

          You haven’t asked a cogent question.
          There is a crisis, an unprecedented crisis.
          The crisis hasn’t been caused by too much government or government spending.
          The fossils on this site always meander back to some class war, union busting battle, which they won twenty five years ago.
          The crisis has been caused by a defective global financial system and rampant corruption.
          But shussh those corrupt swine are the very same people bankrolling the Conservitude party.
          Aren’t they?

        • 132
          Budgie says:

          Gordoom was in charge of the economy for 10 years – TEN years – and had far more power than his friends in banking like Goodwin, because McDebt made the laws and regulations that controlled what Goodwin and co could do.

          Therefore Gordoom was responsible for what turned out to be merely a property boom (he even boasted – over and over – of his own economic prowess, nothing to do with the markets). Many commentators from 2005 at least predicted a bust. But, oh no, Gordoom was still boasting about “no more boom and bust” as late as January 2008.

          Gordoom created the boom and bust in the traditional way of expanding the money supply (10-14 per cent from 2002).

        • 158
          barefootcontessa says:

          MB, you’re a crap merchant.

        • 283
          Troll Basher says:

          Don’t feed the fookin troll. Let me bash his little peanut brain wiv a stick.

        • 827
          thick as thieves says:

          said the pea brained troll.

        • 1256
          Troll Basher says:

          Did you enjoy tha bu­mmin? Want me to bu­m you some more?

      • 1054
        5pedo|♣5hort5 says:

        Alex Salmond agrees with you and hw established The Scottish Futures Trust for the very reasons you cite.

    • 67
      no longer anonymous says:

      Real free markets don’t have central banks holding interest rates too low and creating credit bubbles you dimwit. The idea that our current economic system is a free-market is laughable. Yes it’s been deregulated the past couple of decades but it’s still crippled by countless forms of state meddling and Keynesian stupidity.

      Heck, hard core free market economists PREDICTED this crisis – http://mises.org/story/3128

      • 89
        Master Baiter says:

        Monty Python’s Life of Brian, it’s a film not a Bible.

        • 180
          Budgie says:

          In the UK the government directly runs half the economy and makes the laws (along with the EU) for the other half. That’s what you call a free market? In your coke fueled head, buddy.

      • 243
        Anonymous says:

        Sure they did. And Milton Friedman really was a good guy who knew what he was doing too.

        • 914
          no longer anonymous says:

          Why don’t you read the link you cretin?

          Incidently Friedman has been criticised by these economists.

    • 92
      The Baiter's Master says:

      The whole of human history it can be argued is the story of “markets” in one shape or other. It’s not likely to change. People work for a return, socialism assumes that for some undefined reason they will work for the sake of the greater good. Which is why markets and business will be the basis of all successful economic activity inthe future.

    • 104
      There is a right way and a wrong way.. says:

      Only when incompetents try to improve on what worked.

    • 109
      Anonymous says:

      Hey, asshat. It’s ‘Conservative’ – which is a word, unlike ‘Conservitude’ which isn’t.

      ‘Conservitude,’ no matter how often you keep repeating it, won’t catch on like ‘RepubliKKKan’ or ‘DemocRAT’ did in the US because it’s meaningless. What are you trying to imply with it?

      The Conservatives will force the public into servitude? (by?)
      The Conservatives are themselves in servitude (to?)
      The Conservatives believe in servitude (again, to?)

      Can you come up with something better please?

      • 903

        isn’t it a give away that lab supporters are so lacking in meritorious arguements that they have to lower the tone of the debate like that? i don’t approve of the ZanuLab anti labour shit either but it seems to be a response to this ‘rascist-right-wing-gayboy-tory-twat’ approach of parasite loving dictatorial scum. Socialism is retarded enough that it can be put down without resorting to underhanded socialist tactics. i know its tempting to fight fire with fire but we have the icy coolness bastiat!

    • 426
      Master Rebatere says:

      Oaf BaitorOrcs,
      Your Labour era market based orthodoxies are over, kaputt, finished, ended, concluded, stopped, closed, halted, ceased, cancelled, terminated.
      Ask anyone other than the salivating NuLabourtwats & dimwits you rub up against like a mangy 8-5 paid poster and blown stinking cur to boot

    • 588
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      MB. Too many WKD’s round the back of the corner shop tonight. Are you too pissed to use spell checker?

    • 907

      hey guys, let commie socialist indulge in name calling and black propaganda. we need but one word to put them in their place: Bastiat. he made them all look like dumbass’ before and his beautiful and siomple explanations are still with us.

  16. 46
    Anonymous says:

    +_+_+_+_+_ AND WAHT ABOUT _+_+_+_+_

    All the ’students’ on ridiculous courses, who may never finish and even if they did would be worthless.

    This must account for a huge number of young people. Any ideas on numbers?

    • 176
      PT Barnum says:

      Worthlessness I can only speculate about, but I can say that universities bend over backwards and do a double somersault to (a) keep students in the system and (b) prevent them failing because both have big impacts on their funding.

      The increase in student numbers at universities has largely been composed of people who simply shouldn’t be there since they are not intellectually equipped for degree-level study. This has led in turn to a reduction of the academic demands of a degree along with the now firmly established remedial make-up work which fills the first semester of many degrees, particularly in the sciences.

      A degree is, anywhere other than the top 20 institutions (including both Russell Group and the pre-1992 institutions) are worth a lot less than a decade ago.

      Prizes for all.

      • 207
        Anonymous says:

        This is just another wheeze to keep the unemployed off the dole queue. There is no doubt the “true “unemployment figures are the worst in living memory.

        • 280
          Anonymous says:

          Really? How does that explain the massive shortfall in the number of university places this September?

        • 404
          Anonymous says:

          The massive shortfall in university places is due to many people choosing to study instead of directly going into employment due to the lack of jobs. It’s therefore entirely explained.

      • 590
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        In the words of an admissions Professor. “We hold a mirror in front of their mouths. If it mists over, they’re in.”

      • 951
        Eeyore says:

        You summarise the situation in academia exactly, PTB.

        In higher and further education, as with so many areas of our life, NuLab has dragged down standards and jeered at excellence, all in the name of some spurious notion of ‘equality’.

        In order to ensure that institutional funding continues all must win prizes, however undeserving they may be. Lecturers who stand up to this pressure are at best sidelined and at worst sacked.

        My favourite example is of an African student whose chief talent was in cut’n'paste whose work I failed on grounds of plagiarism. He was later made a ’student of the year’ on the basis of grades awarded him by a colleague with more pliable attitudes.

        On all levels this amounts to corruption of the worst sort. There is no sign of anyone taking it seriously.

  17. 52
    Martin Day says:

    Birmingham MP drinks to the Tax Payer Expenses!

    http://tinyurl.com/mlhnly

  18. 54
    Steve Expat says:

    O/T, and I know not everyone here likes the cricket…

    BUT

    England 425
    Australia 118-5 – Ponting 2, Hughes 4, Clarke 1….

    COME ON ENGLAND!!

    • 59
      Pugh, Pugh, Barny Magrew, Cuthbert Dibble and Grub (I think. Correct me if I'm wrong) says:

      Has the rain reached them yet?

      • 64
        Steve Expat says:

        They lost an hour or so for rain earlier in the day, could have been a lot worse. Now if we can keep them under the follow-on score (225) we’ve a chance of a result even with a day of rain!

    • 60
      nell says:

      Hubby is pleased …..

    • 85
      Trough Mixture says:

      What a good day. Despite the fact that my flat roof has developed an horrendous leak with no warning. I’m looking forward to the highlights so I can see Broad catch Katich……and there goes North!!

    • 161
      barefootcontessa says:

      True, but let you off.

    • 227
      Angry Voter says:

      Is it over yet?

  19. 55
    nell says:

    Gordon’s doing his bit to reduce unemployment.

    He employs 23 spin doctors at no.10 alone. Each is employed on a modest salary scale of £66K to £103K plus pensions and benefits.

    This is more than tony employed and two more than gordon employed last year.

    Gordon said in 2007 he would cut the spin out of his govt. Good to see that he ‘keeps his word’

  20. 57

    With over 21% of the workforce directly employed by the taxpayer and probably another couple of million on top of that employed by the local authorities – ie: the taxpayers again – possibly about one third of us are actually in non-productive jobs paid for by the shrinking tax pot. No wonder Gordo and his thieves are starting to get desperate about what they can tax next.

    HMRC are probably at this moment simplifying the tax return form for us all. I surmise it will soon have just two questions

    1. Enter the amount earned £____________
    2. Enter your Bank Account Number/Location at which the money can be collected ______________________

    Simple, direct and efficient. Fulfills all of Labour’s tax plans.

    • 513
      Call me Infidel says:

      Good one, and probably not far from the truth if socialism is allowed to take its course.

  21. 60
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    I have my doubts about some of these statistics. There are “officially” 2.38 million unemployed, but only 1.6 million claiming unemployment benefit (or whatever it’s been rebranded as these days). Am I the only one to think there’s something fishy about that?

    I note that the 2.38 million figure comes from a survey. Now I know there are some very clever folks at the ONS who know how to run surveys and understand what sampling bias is, but I’m sure it must be a lot easier to survey people who aren’t working than people who are out making a living. I just wonder if they really managed to get to grips with that. Maybe the 2.38 million is an overestimate?

    • 74
      Pugh, Pugh, Barny Magrew, Cuthbert Dibble and Grub (I think. Correct me if I'm wrong) says:

      Now you are joking aren’t you?!

    • 685

      There is a very good reason there is a gap between those claiming benefit and those unemployed. If you earned above a certain threshold up to the point you lost your job, you don’t qualify for any unemployment payments. If, like me, you have the disadvantage of being in receipt of a small pension as well – you’re off the register as well. So a lot of us don’t even bother registering.

      And Brown now takes 20% of my pension which used to be in the 10% band. Plus, I don’t qualify for “Tax credits” (Single, no children, no drug habit, not disabled, worked all my life to pay my own way. – Thanks Labour.)

      Danger! Socialism at work.

      • 909
        bastiat says:

        i eat socialists! and poop glory! Hail to my digestive tract!

      • 1288
        grandma B says:

        If you’ve got savings you can’t get means tested Job Seekers Allowance. Of course, you could always go out and buy an expensive car and then claim, but responsible people want to hold on to their savings, so that they can pay their care home fees.

  22. 71

    Cameron and the Guido mob should be ashamed of themselves. Their approach to politics is cheap and corrosive, and never leads anywhere good. It’s why the Tories don’t have my vote and I don’t read that dreg. I must admit though, they certainly make me laugh when they’re drunk and embarrassing themselves like last nihgt.

  23. 73

    The mob from this site should be ashamed of themselves. Their approach to politics is cheap and corrosive, and never leads anywhere good. It’s why the Tories don’t have my vote and I don’t read that stuff. I must admit though, they certainly make me laugh when they’ve had a few too many and they embarrass themselves like last nihgt.

    • 78
      Pugh, Pugh, Barny Magrew, Cuthbert Dibble and Grub (I think. Correct me if I'm wrong) says:

      Coventry

    • 114
      mormon says:

      Oh yeah, like they’d let someone in from Care in the Community, you retard.

    • 126
      caesars wife says:

      loosing again today hardwidge , give up , chill out daddie O , just let go of your homophobia , you are only hurting yourself

    • 184
      Budgie says:

      Cheap and corrosive is better than the Gulag, which is what you statists impose on people in the end.

    • 289
      Troll Basher says:

      Fook me the Tories don’t have Charlie’s precious postal vote. Ow will they fookin form a government wivout it?

      • 596
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        As Charlie is probably filling out 2000 postal votes for every Labour marginal, he does well to find time to post grafitti on this site.

  24. 75
    nell says:

    Ed Balls the other day was urging teachers and lawyers to become social workers so presumably there must be lots of vacancies.

    I wonder why he didn’t urge all of these soon to be out of work Labour MP’s to do it ?

  25. 77
    Raving Loon says:

    The government cannot create jobs. It can do one of 2 things:

    1) Raise taxes to create artificial public sector jobs, destroying useful wealth creating private sector jobs in the process due to the tax increases.

    2) Re-distribute wealth from one sector of the economy to the other creating jobs in one area at the expense of others. Net change in total jobs = zero.

    • 87
      Steve Expat says:

      3) Reduce the rediculous amount of red tape and hoops that businesses have to jump through, allowing people to be more productive and create more wealth, therefore pay more in taxes…

      • 123
        Anonymous says:

        Wow! What a good idea. Evidently, no one has thought of that yet. Or could it just be that it’s far worse than you allow. Moreover, even the cliche you expound can’t even raise a laugh.

      • 413
        Raving Loon says:

        If only…I doubt the government will let a silly thing like common sense interfere with their plans.

  26. 79
    Anonymous says:

    If you think this is bad then you didn’t read the recent IMF summary of Britain recently. Bankruptcy is a real possibility. And you can slice it however you wish because it won’t make one iota of difference who is in power. It’s so bad that this time next year they will lay off teachers, probably policemen and when the slide begins it will come down like an avalanche. Civil disobedience is ultimately highly likely as the young realise the extent of the betrayal. Even in a country with a population as servile as that of the UK, there is going to be trouble. The only good thing that will come out of it is the inevitable end of the Windsor crew.

  27. 81
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Dillow’s a fucking moron – his article comprises wishful thinking based on his outdated and discredited political ideology rather than any serious economic analysis or presentation of what will work in practice.

    The government should (but since McHoon is in charge it won’t) make it easier for people to employ other people by reducing the handcuffs of employment taxes and red tape – it may not have an immediate effect given the depths of recession that we’ve been driven to by their mismanagement and ineptitude but at least when things begin to turn it will help bring unemployment figures down more quickly.

    Unfortunately McHoon and his gaggle of sycophants (particularly the odious Balls and the increasingly ludicrous Harman) are more interested in their versions of equality, control freakery and box ticking than getting people back into the workforce. When you add the need for them to support their client state in the run up to the election then it becomes clear that this particular issue won’t be addressed anytime soon.

    Rather than Britain being best placed to weather the global storm as Brown was stupidly claiming 12 or 18 months ago the increasingly stark reality is that his ruinous economic policies (aided and abetted by his homunculus Balls) have placed us in exactly the opposite position

    I really wish he’d just fuck off and fuck off now

  28. 91
    normbrainer says:

    why don’t they get off their arses and stop waiting for someone else to create a job for them to do and get on and make their own.

    I know why… ‘cos life’s too easy on benefits.

  29. 95
    Genghiz the Kahn says:

    Where are the new vibrant plcs and ltds which have been formed since 1997?

    Where is the UK’s Yahoo, Google? Which firms have developed into major MNCs under New Labour’s watch? Come on Labour trolls name the successes since 1997.

    Brown and his army of box tickers have added more tax onto UK firms, have made the tax system more complex and then wonder why unemployment is rising.

  30. 98

    Generally, I try to keep one foot in the topic and stay polite but the resident trolls make that near impossible. You can’t deal with people who just diss everything or make stuff up all the time. That’s deliberate and they scream blue murder if they’re called on it. The Toxic Tories are back and wrapping themselves in Web 2.0 doesn’t make it any better.

    • 103
      a touch of the beeboids says:

      It’s the way he tells ‘em.

      ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzz

      • 119
        Hardwidget's Nursey says:

        Zzzzzzzzzzzz I’m supposed to be on wank patrol; stop Charlie abusing his little red weener, but he sends me to sleep with all this rubbish.

    • 108
      Charlie Hardwidget says:

      Charles you really are the Lord Haw Haw of the blogosphere. I hope the Labour party are paying you well for your endless and persistent drivel that you bombard us with day after day. You have certainly been a dogged and persistent servant of your political propaganda masters. Frankly it’s all rather sad and pointless you are now just a figure of ridicule and scorn.

    • 129
      caesars wife says:

      Oh dear wipe those tears , mumsey will be along soon with some sooma and 1970s political broadcasts

    • 139
      Nurse Williams says:

      Come home, Charles, you’ve had a very stressful day and it’s way past bedtime.

    • 482
      Troll Basher says:

      Fook me dis coont is gettin tedious

  31. 122
    Pugh, Pugh, Barny Magrew, Cuthbert Dibble and Grub (I think. Correct me if I'm wrong) says:

    .Coventry.

  32. 128
    • 142
      Prodnose of MI5 says:

      I can see you on CCTV.

    • 146
      snotgobblersunited aka raith rovers says:

      Indeed they are. They are just the broad sheet pravda edition of the Labour party. Willing to suck up the last dregs of an outgoing government in order to move that little bit forward in the short term. Weasels have more grace and common sense. Preaching to their publicly employed masses.

  33. 131
    ThickAsThieves says:

    I’ll suck a nob for a tenner

  34. 135
    Sir William Waad says:

    Obviously if you have a minimum wage and substantial unemployment benefits, you will have a lot of unemployment. Up to a point it is far better than tolerating poverty and exploitation. Beyond that point it makes everybody poorer and condemns a very large part of the population to economic house arrest.

    Wouldn’t it be better to integrate all benefits with the tax system so that, whatever you earned, however small, you would be better off than not working?

    • 140
      Anonymous says:

      substantial unemployment benefits? Are you joking?

      • 151
        Prodnose of MI5 says:

        At least sixty quid plus New Deal, plus income support, plus council tax benefit, plus child tax credit, plus this, plus that….some of the comments on this site about people living it up on the State are cruel and insulting, but the benefits are not trivial. If you’re faced with giving them up to take an entry-level job, with travelling costs, clothes etc it may not make sense to do so.

        • 169
          Anonymous says:

          A single unemployed person in this country apparently gets sixty quid a week. That’s a lot of money isn’t it? Three thousand a year. It’s only one thousand less that Prince Andrew claims in “expenses” per week. How do you propose to live on that sum of sixty pounds per week?

        • 172
          Daft Begger says:

          Millions of people manage to live on it for generation after generation so it doesn’t matter what’s ‘PROPOSED’ when it’s happening all around you everyday.

        • 546
          Steve Expat says:

          The problem is the margin between claiming unemployment benefit and working for the minimum wage.

          My understanding is that if you work 35 hours a week for 6 pounds an hour, your ‘marginal rate of tax’ compared to the dole is around 80%.

          That is you can earn 80% of the money you’d get working full time for doing fuck all. And we wonder which option most people would choose if offered 80% of their salary to watch daytime telly…

    • 149
      Sinic(sic) says:

      Sounds far too reasonable for the Saviour of the Western World, aka Gordoom, to grasp.
      Remember, he’s far too busy listening to Mandykins and “getting on with the job” (whatever that means this week), so can’t waste his valuable time listening to people who talk sense.

      • 602
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        It means shitting half crowns and sixpenses because he’s been sussed on helicoptors.

      • 628
        Anonymous says:

        What do you mean? Julie Kirkbride is the saviour of the modern world. She used to be Gordon`s mentor.

  35. 143
    Gone Euro-Troughing says:

    At least the ugly Bliar cow has got a pig cough. Only good news.

  36. 155

    Seriously, I’ve nearly 100 percent tuned out the Tories and people who just post online for thrills and spills. I’m not in your target market and you need to deal with that.

    Bottom line: you have to give me a reason why I should be interested or give up any of my time to listen.

    You have to give me a reason why I should be interested or give up any of my time to listen.

    • 165
      grandma B says:

      Time waits for no man – not even you dear Charles

    • 167
      barefootcontessa says:

      Charles, I would suggest you go suck on a few opal fruits.

      • 174
        Daft Begger says:

        i saw your cookery programme contessa, i didn’t know you where a pretty good cook,

    • 196
      caesars wife says:

      ” ive nearly 100% tuned out” is that the same as lobotomy surgery ?

    • 585
      Fidel X Penses says:

      CEH – you’re not going to get a reason. Now please do what you promised and go away.

    • 607
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      Charles, you don’t need a reason. You’re too busy expounding your visualisation of the Cosmic All, which we need a reason for listening to.

      • 737
        barefootcontessa says:

        i probably won,t vote conservative,…….buy i probably won’t vote labour even more.

    • 1265
      shelling-out says:

      Reasons? You’re so full of crap you can’t even think straight.

  37. 157
    Jesus Christ says:

    Blessed be those who strive to make it better and fuck the tories who enjoy seeing other people ot the dole.

    • 160
      Abdul Mohamed Yassi says:

      Yo bassa – are ya sayin tories are not doin nuttin?

    • 290
      Sir Barrington Minge says:

      Piss off Jesus, you don’t exist

    • 437
      Lampost and piano wire says:

      ……………..and fuck the tories who enjoy seeing other people ot the dole.

      Read that again and then read it once more. Dont care what government is in no one but no one ‘enjoys’ seeing people on the dole.
      JC Change your handle you will nver ever that comment be taken seriously again on this blog even if for a brief moment you came out with something sensible?

      Bit like MB’s comment on Dave Camerons son. No baitor ….it has not be forgotten and never will be you utter total hoon.

      • 1060
        5pedo|♣5hort5 says:

        that was an interesting piece of drivvel..no wonder Jesus Christ is taking so long to come back so long as there’s retards like you to contend with.

  38. 178

    Economists have been telling us that we’re in a situation where the normal rules don’t apply. There is a saying in Go that “Strange things happen at the one-two point”. Here, the normal heuristics of play break down and novices are often confused by this.

    Sensei’s Library comments: “The one-two point is a critical point in many life and death problems. The difference between living or dying locally is at least 20 points. It is something that cannot be taken easily. That’s the difference between winning and losing, or losing and losing badly.”

    How much of this situation is solved by intuition and paradox, and how much by calculation and planning is anyone’s guess. I’ve commented, only half-seriously, that Gordon Brown is a Tao master. Meanwhile, the Tories are still trying to calculate and position like they’re playing chess.

    • 194
      caesars wife says:

      new name for broon Al Crapone , gangsta economics , ask a dairy farmer

      • 201
        Douglas Hogg says:

        dairy farmers have been milking the public for years…get a real job ya bassa

      • 787
        thick as thieves says:

        troll basher,
        you do realise you are making a complete fucking arse of yourself, don’t you?
        you stupid c’unt.
        fuck off wanker.
        many thanks.

    • 211
      grandma B says:

      What are you on about? What is the point of writing blogs, if a person of average intelligence, cannot understand them?

      • 441
        lqkmsmfl/EGMKA'E says:

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    • 228
      Deaf Hoon says:

      Pardon?

    • 625
      Budgie says:

      Gordoom McDebt a “Tao master”? Did someone put meths in your Tennants Charles?

      “The gentleman must learn to be faithful to his superiors and to keep promises” (Analects).

      “The Master said, He who sets to work on a different strand destroys the whole fabric” (Analects).

      From his manoeuvering against Bliar, to his boasting about eliminating “boom and bust”, to his lies about the Lisbon treaty, Gordoom is the antithesis of the Tao.

    • 640
      Sarah says:

      Only if your definition of a Tao master is an incompetent, malevolent fuckwit who couldn’t run a whelk stall.

      • 790
        thick as thieves says:

        I didn’t know you ran a whelk store sarah.
        well done. it is good to see intellectual cripples like you successfully integrating into society.
        good work retard, I am very impressed.
        but you still need to deal with your low self esteem issue. though I do agree with you that you are certainly a malevolant fuckwit I do think you are being somewhat harsh on yourself when you say you are incompetent. you manage to get access to a keyboard and you remember to take your medication to stop you shaking and swearing and going mad, so you are clearly not entirely incompetent.
        chin up retard, I think you are doing very well!
        for a cripple.

        • 1262
          Troll Basher says:

          Again wiv da disable jokes you twat? Howzabout I bu­m ya so hard you cannot walk for a week and need crutches? See if its funny den?

        • 1377
          Sarah says:

          Tat and Charles – it’s love!!!!
          Congratulations guys!

  39. 179
    nell says:

    Interesting aside to the unemployment issue is that cities like Swansea, Newcastle and Ipswich which, at the moment are cushioned against unemployment because of large numbers of public sector jobs based in their areas, are bracing themselves for problems after the next General Election when it is expected that up to 290,000 of those public sector jobs will be cut.

    Does anybody know the total figure of public sector jobs in Britain – what it was in 1997 and what it is now?

    • 188
      Steve Expat says:

      Somewhere around 5 million and 6 million respectively directly employed by the State.

      Plus those indirectly employed such as PFI companies, defence contractors etc. those in govt subsidised companies such as railways, govt owned but not-really-on-the-books like Northern Rock and RBS….

    • 193
      nell says:

      Just found the answer to that:

      There were at the end of March 2009 6.02 million employed in the public sector. It was up 15000 from the Jan 2009 figures.

      It continues to grow at about that rate as private sector jobs are being slashed.

      Obviously gordon’s trying to mask the real scale of the unemployment disaster by creating non-jobs to soak up the private sector unemployment.

      Guess this is what he means by ‘investing’. Not exactly sound economic sense.

      • 202
        Steve Expat says:

        nell, is anything this government does sound economic sense? It looks from here like a manic scorched earth policy designed to both buy a few more Liebour votes in the election and completely screw things up for Cameron when he gets his chance…

        • 209
          nell says:

          I think I’m right in saying that gordon firmly believes everyone employed by the government is going to vote for him.

          It isn’t true – and there are many old hands in govt who were brought up to penny pinch for the public purse who have been shocked by gordon’s profligacy.

          Just imagine if we were to make 200,000 of these ‘vote winners’ that gordon thinks he’s bought with a public sector job, redundant, what we could for our lads in Afghanistan?

        • 225
          Steve Expat says:

          Just imagine if we were to make 2,000,000 of these ‘vote winners’ that gordon thinks he’s bought with a public sector job, redundant, what we could for our lads in Afghanistan?

          Fixed that for you nell :-)

        • 274
          Prime Numbers says:

          They are betting on 0.5% growth in 1st Quarter 2010 but swine flu could bugger that.

        • 334
          Troll Basher says:

          Swine flu could be the dathe of us.

        • 542
          Steve Expat says:

          Swine Flu could be the excuse to invoke the Civil Contingencies Act 2004 and postpone the election…

        • 791
          thick as thieves says:

          yes, you must be particularly careful about the swine flu thing steve.
          after all, you are in a high risk group, as you are a scum tory crackhead alcoholic tramp living on the streets and picking up fag butts all the time.
          not looking good for you is it steve?
          bet you wish you hadn’t taken all that crack and cocaine and heroin and picked up all those snotty fag butt ends now, eh steve?
          what you need is to experience is a moment of lucidity about your condition. until you have that moment when you say to yourself: hey, I am steve and I am a crackhead scum smelly tramp motherfucker and I don’t want to do this any more, pissing my trousers and smoking crack with five dollar whores, I want to change my life and live in a home like a normal person.
          until you have that moment of clarity steve, you will just remain a smackhead tramp with a high risk of catching swine flu.
          come on steve, we are concerned about your desperate situation and we all want you to get off the crack and get off the streets and to live like a normal person in your own home, not a cardboard box that smells of spunk and piss and shit.
          personally, I wish you well but I don’t think you’re going to make it.
          tough shit steve.
          that’s life!

        • 1188
          Dick the Prick says:

          Thick as shit – that was quite bloody funny – well done.

        • 1263
          Troll Basher says:

          Dick mate I presume you fink Des O’connor is funny as well?

        • 1410
          Steve Expat says:

          OKay, thick as. I admit I had to smile at that insult.

          I find it amusing that you choose to take so much time to write such drivel, you obviously have far too much of it on your hands – maybe you should do something slightly more productive with your free hours, how’s about you volunter for litter picking or graffiti cleaning and give something back for a change??

      • 1063
        5pedo|♣5hort5 says:

        If TaT is not Gu1d0 then he is a close relation..sorry m8 your cover’s blown – go and try thinking up some other little trick.

        • 1107
          thick as thieves says:

          not guilty.
          honest!

        • 1244
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          You flip your position more reguarly than a LibDem – how can anybody believe you.

        • 1248
          thick as thieves says:

          if you would care to offer just one example of the great thick as thieves flipping his correct position then please offer your evidence now.
          put up or shut up.
          innit.

        • 1273
          Troll Basher says:

          talkin to himselves innit? hahahaha

        • 1351
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          Tat here is an example…

          “…the fact remains that the new labour war and occupation and torture party is stuffed full of war criminals.”

          You demeaned our great leader TaT, how could you do such a thing? Did the g00d gu1d0 have you DRUGGED?

        • 1411
          Steve Expat says:

          Funny how T A T’s name is a mod term but he’s still allowed to post. I think he’s Gu1d0’s mad cousin or someone similar…

  40. 187
    PT Barnum says:

    Another home-grown would-be suicide bomber jailed today, this one a former heroin addict from Bristol.

    Yes, let’s fight in Afghanistan to keep Alky Ada off the streets of Britain shall we?

    • 217
      nell says:

      It shows up the Labour lies doesn’t it?

      Go to war in Iraq because ‘they have wmd that can reach us in 45 mins’

      Keep making war in Afghanistan because ‘terrorists are being trained there to explode bombs on our streets here’

      Truth is – leaders believe war makes them look sexy and electable – and gordon’s coming up to an election – deluded idiot – gordon the moron.

      I just want our lads in Afghanistan to stay safe . Another one has just died ++sad++

      • 236
        Anonymous says:

        Well, if only there was a pointless conflict in the South Atlantic or something like that. That’d put everything right, wouldn’t it?

        • 293
          nell says:

          You’re not the real anonymous – you’re a labour troll – what do you care about the lads that are dying in Afghanistan??

          You certainly wouldn’t have the courage to go out there and do what they are doing with sub-standard resources.

          Why are they so badly resouced? Because gordon wants to put what money he hasn’t managed to squander thus far into buying public sector jobs believing that will convert into labour votes.

        • 336
          Troll Basher says:

          Labour trolls only care about keepin their handlers happy. Stoopid slimeballs nobody luvs them.

        • 389
          nell says:

          Notice you didn’t respond troll?

          Can’t?! can you? -

          Our young men are dying because gordon won’t provide the funds for their protection , so he can continue his ’sexy’ ‘vote winning’ (NOT) foray into afghanistan.

          He thought ‘never mind how many young men get killed – this is a vote winner for me’ gordon the moron.

          Well he’s finding that isn’t the case now – isn’t he?

        • 614
          Grumpy Old Man says:

          dear Nell. Never forget that physical courage and patriotism, even towards the wars that your Party started, are not Labour core values.

      • 246
        PT Barnum says:

        Indeed. I just don’t understand this wild misdirection of resources and priorities.

        Actually, intellectually I do. Nell gives part of it – war is good for politicians. And the other part of course is not upsetting certain communities in our country who we cannot afford to upset.

        But it makes me so angry!

        • 519
          m and b the trolls brew[weak dribble but with a big head] says:

          What make it worse is that the m.o.d are still running auctions selling of brand new kit and even a.f.v.s ,ridiculous i have even seen ads for a saxon a.p.c. with only 1,000 miles on it! and we are now buying junk kit from the states.

    • 282
      Viva Colonia says:

      Same in Germany. It’s the converts who move on to fertilizer and timers. Tried to blow up commuter trains. They have handlers who do have strong terror camp credentials.

      They are utter nutcases.

      • 375
        PT Barnum says:

        The only redeeming element of this case is that he was reported to the police by the M*slim community. But that also suggests he was operating as a clean skin and was not under scrutiny from the security services.

        We are fighting a sustained terrorist threat in the wrong place in the wrong way.

        Does Germany operate the same kid-glove approach to this ‘enemy within’, a minority within a minority, ie be nice and cuddly, humour their eccentricities, adjust national norms to accomodate their demands?

        • 545
          Susie says:

          He was the son of an extremely wealthy doctor. An unemployed heroin addict, with no dependents, he still managed to inhabit a Council flat — WHY??? Why did the council allocate a flat to him, surely there were families (single or otherwise) on the waiting list.

    • 323
      Tin Foil-Lizard says:

      The wierd thing is, that albert kyeda does seem to pray on the deranged and weak.
      The shoe bomber was a crackers wierdo too.

      Two things:
      a) such wierdos are indeed motivated by wars in muslim countries.
      b) Zones in said countries do actually give spaces to train and organise the real terrorists who don’t actually want to die themselves. It would actually be bloody useful if afganistan and pakistan didn’t have “salisbury plain for muslim nutters”

      PS: 238 PT Barnum … I can only see the exercise as a favour for the (crazed) americans. Who we’d need if the russians get a bit lively. Behind the scenes deals.

  41. 190
    Dick Scratcher says:

    Please can we start a fund to raise enough so that Fiona Bruce can get her tits done? She’s a cracking bird, but a bit lacking in that department. I personally pledge a tenner. Over to you GF.

  42. 199
    grandma B says:

    Channel 4 news – Gordon makes toddler cry on Number 10 doorstep and General Jock Stirrup takes the opportunity to turn his back on our Prime Minister in order to talk at length to a uniformed soldier. Why doesn’t Gordon get the message?

    • 221
      nell says:

      Chief of Defence JockS had a meeting with gordon today and told him that he backed Dannatt’s demands for helicopters, more resources and more men.

      He was given a shopping list of what the military needs to survive and win in Afghanistan.

      Gordon is being embarrassed into doing the right thing for our lads and left with egg on his face – expect a U Turn anytime now.

      • 299
        Troll Basher says:

        You can see why military coups are popular.

      • 521
        Pontius The Pilot says:

        Stirrup is to defence what Ian Blair was to policing. Bloody useless. He was almost certainly upbraiding the soldier for not saluting him, rather than spurning the Golem.

        Stirrup has spent more years polishing his ego and climbing the greasy pole than being an effective senior officer. Mans an @rse.

  43. 205
    Fees Office Clerk says:

    By falsifying the unemployment figures NeuLab is able to claim that there is a skills/manpower shortage and consequently maintain an ever increasing level of immigration.

  44. 208
    5ped0 5h0rt5 says:

    Me ol’ heart is singin and I’ve got that “1997″ feeling all over again – thank you Gordon! :-))

    PS – please disregard previous imposters, THIS is the real SS

    • 215
      Anonymous says:

      Have to disagree, bad though the toriies were in 97 at least they left the economy in good shape, not like this shower of incompetent retards !

      • 220
        5ped0 5h0rt5 says:

        Fair point my man. As I see it though, I want to vote for folks who are on the same side as the working man – not for Bullingdon club brutes who, by defintion, consider themselves born to rule over working people….take yer choice mate.
        We are on the up – don’t let the bastards grind you down

        .

    • 219
      grandma B says:

      I’m literally “just singing in the rain” too – it’s a bit damp up north. A day like today would finish Gordon off at the election as his little band of followers wouldn’t come out.

      • 223
        5ped0 5h0rt5 says:

        I bet you’re prett dry down south granny – ya evil old bassa

        • 235
          nell says:

          I presume you are using 5’s for S’s because Guido banned you under the proper spelling of that name.

          Don’t expect to last long!

          Bit like gordon really.

        • 245
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

          nell — its yer old buddy — you wouldn’t turn your back on me would ya = only a tory would do that?????????/ —– Urhmmm….well, on second thoughts……( I forgive ya nell).

        • 255
          grandma B says:

          Less of the greasy charm please or I’ll hit you with my handbag.

        • 300
          nell says:

          Well done Grandma B !!!!

          I’ll chuck my shoe at him – the one with a 4″ stilletto-

          Hopefully it will hit him right between the eyes!!!!

  45. 212
    Phil says:

    Growth is not sustainable. Get over it.

  46. 214
    Iain Dale says:

    I am not Gay,
    I merely help out when they are busy.
    unlike Wacko Jocko (our Prime mentalist)

    He sent his “beard “to march on the Gay Pride march
    “Vote Dale and take it up the tail”

  47. 216
    5ped0 5h0rt5 says:

    DC (dirty c’unt) shafted bysix foot pole

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8154670.stm

  48. 226

    People forget how big business fought change and how they screamed at the merest whiff that their house price rise would slow. They also forget how Labour has massively redistributed income to the poor via tax credits while the Tories still vehemently oppose a rise in the minimum wage.

    If the Tories were so good why do they side with the CBI in opposing corporate governance law, and why don’t the wealthy classes who hire accountants to take the strain helps out the poor with organising their tax credits? Perhaps, it’s something to do with the Tories not wanting to dilute their power and privilege, eh?

    • 249
      Watt Tyler says:

      The proof of the pudding is in the eating. 1997 – Labour inherit a sound economy. 2010 – Conservatives inherit a basket case; bigger gap between rich and poor; welfare dependancy; social, spiritual and moral poverty; 1 in 6 unemployed etc etc

      All of your literature is wasted. All people need do is look around.

      • 275
        5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

        You have a good questioning mind – is that why they call you “Watt”? Go back to school and get some basioc grades you ignoramus.

        • 320
          Sue Tzuzir says:

          12 years of education, education, education and you still can’t spell. Scrote.

        • 342
          Troll Basher says:

          fookin chav ee is

        • 363
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

          How, pray tell, is your fascinating surname properly enunciated?

          PS – excuse any inadvertant spelling mistakes which are entirely due to early wanking syndrome.

        • 1027
          Freud says:

          Listen my Troon based friend. Clearly you have breathed too much New Labour air and swallowed all the spin from the past 12 years. This renders you incapable of reason.

          Guido has tried to be sensitive about this and banned you on several occasions. This is for your own good. The Fantasy Island you occupy with the other New Labour die hards is not reality. Adjusting will be hard but along with Hardwidge and Master Baiter you will not have to make the journey alone.

          Phase 1 of the treatment is to listen to my CD of Margaret Thatcher’s 500 greatest speeches day and night until your socialist tendencies are under control. Only then can you tread the path to true enlightenment.

          Repeat after me ‘This lady is not for turning………..’

    • 257
      caesars wife says:

      Still doesnt detract from labour ruining the country .

      ruinomics is totally a labour invention

    • 448
      First in the handout q says:

      They also forget how Labour has massively redistributed income to the poor via tax credits

      GIVEN MONEY EARNED BY THE PRODUCTIVE PART OF THE ECONOMY TO THOSE TOO LAZY TO GET OFF THEIR COLLECTIVE ARSE AND DO SOMETHING..

      • 632
        Budgie says:

        Actually the poor in Britain are taxed more heavily by Liebore than the poor in America. If Gordoom didn’t want to tie us in knots with his over complicated tax system he could simply tax the poor less and scrap tax credits. Better job done, but cheaper.

        Ohhh ……….

  49. 229
    5ped0☻5h0rt5 says:

    THE TORIES ARE THE NASTY PARTY – LEST WE FORGET

    • 453
      Obama Alky Labour says:

      zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz fook off…. 10% tax band RIP. End off

      signed
      Obama Alky Labour

      No 1 cave
      Afhganistan

    • 826

      Lest we forget!!! Yes, lets not forget selling seats in the lords (fortunately, I didn’t have to buy mine), second homes, Formula 1 (if you can remember that far back), Blair and some Indian steel owner, mandy’s “loan”, a certain Labour “minister’s” perpetual suntan, 10% income tax removal, raiding pensions by removing tax allowance – and finally totaly fucking up the country so we all live in poverty for the next generation or 2 or 3. When it come sto being nasty – and stupid with it – Labour have no competition.

      • 1006
        barefootcontessa says:

        ………selling the gold reserves, starting an illegal war, bringing in 24 hour drinking. It goes on and on and on. How much more can we take from the most disreputable incompetent party of all time?

      • 1069
        5pedo|♣5hort5 says:

        You are a sponge to the Murdoch press – I feel sorry for you.

  50. 230
    Anon says:

    Jesus wept, what a load of tosh you numpties talk on here. This place has gone downhill recently.

  51. 234
    PT Barnum says:

    Well, folks, this blog seems to have come under sustained ‘attack’ from a small army of trolls today, all the old regulars plus some new ones or old ones pretending to be new ones.

    To me this suggests fear and anxiety is growing in the ranks of the NewLabour apologists and a fresh need to crap all over any person questioning or challenging government ‘truths’.

    Oh, and to stop the predicted attack in its tracks, I do not and will not vote Tory. I used to be a committed Labour supporter, and now I’m not. I am disgusted by this government, simple as that.

    • 238
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

      All of what you say points tot he fact that you are a tory – you nasty bassa

      • 248
        nell says:

        That’s why gordon has our lads in Afghanistan in 4 wheel drives being blown to hell rather than in helicopters then!!!!

        Real lovable lad isn’t he!!!???

        Nasty Party – that’s too good a description for this foul, evil, corrupt,uncaring, arrogant, incompetent, failing, troughing, thieving, Labour ‘government’ that knows nothing about decent hardworking, self-respecting working classes.

        Guido are you going to kill off 5pedo the one brain poster or what?

        • 313
          nell says:

          Dear Guido,

          This 5pedo person shouldn’t be allowed to get away with this.

          PLEASE unmod me – I want him to know what I think of him and his
          slug-slime labour ‘government’

          I’ve run this comment past my lawyer niece – she says there’s nothing in it of any harm.

          OK?

      • 252
        Steve Expat says:

        I thought you got banned by Guido?

      • 253
        nell says:

        That is so unfair!!!! – I’ve been modded!!!! –

        no bad language just home truths – please Guido unmod me- this person deserves every word I said.

        • 265
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

          I shall take it as read implicitly

        • 288
          Arse Lickers Anonymous says:

          Piss off.

        • 306
          Tin Foil-Lizard says:

          I got modded for a farting in the spare room comment.

          I do know that one is not allowed to name all the beatles. Perhaps “mull of Kuntyre” brings back bad memories.

      • 414
        nell says:

        OK I can’t get past the modding at the moment. Let’s try another tack.

        Why is gordon forcing our lads to fight in unprotected 4 wheel drives in Afghanistan and watching them die to IED’s when he could stop the carnage by funding helicopters?

        This labour government is the most foul, corrupt, arrogant, uncaring, failing, thieving ….need I go on????

        • 422
          nell says:

          Guido you have modded me again!!!!! You know I am your greatest supoorter.

          I really wish you hadn’t done that .

          I think Our troops in Afghanistan deserve better.

          Please.Please UNMOD ME!!

          Nothing I am saying here is offensive.

          • Anonymous says:

            for fucks sake nell moderation is automatic, it picks up certain keywords, just reword the post

          • Anonymous says:

            just reword the post moderation is automatic

          • 5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

            change your faith to Islam – he never mods a muslim. Ask my friend Abdul Mohamed Yassi

    • 242
      nell says:

      Well hopefully you will get a chance to vote independent then. A few of them in parliament wouldn’t do any harm at all.

      As for the labour trolls – the deluge at the General Election will pretty well drown them.

  52. 244
    Gordon Brown says:

    I am not going to buy any apaches because too many of these videos would cause us to lose marginal seats with our key voters upon whom we rely for bulk votes.

    • 256
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

      is this the kind of thing that turns you on pervert – fuck off ya twat

    • 263
      nell says:

      Yes! We want lots of them and the black hawks.

      I hope gordon is listening.

      • 269
        5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

        WELL NELL – I will help you get them IF, IN RETURN, YOU VOLUNTEER TO GO AND FIGHT THERE YOURSELF instead of warmongering on your armchair.

        • 322
          Enough is enough. says:

          Fool.

          I don’t support you or your stupidity. Afghanistan is not worth the life of a single British soldier. Labour sent them there. It’s a shithole. Equip them or bring them home.

          You are just a twisted toe-rag.

          Sorry.

        • 326
          nell says:

          I’m a pensioner who has already done my bit.

          Are you going 5pedo???

          That’s the question!!!!

          I think you should. The military is really good discupline for those unemployed who have never attempted to find work.

      • 273
        Anonymous says:

        you are evidently demented.

    • 493
      Gordolph Brownler says:

      shame they didnt get the other three hoons

    • 559
      jgm2 says:

      As a scientist I just love the way you can actually demonstrate to young children how light travels at different speeds through different densities with this educational video clip. It should really hold the attention of young boys – who we know are suffering through the latest ‘box-tick’ Shirley Williams notion of education.

      Look lads – physics in action. Can you see how them shock wave distort the reflected light from those parallel plough lines?

      Who said physics was boring?

      We should show this stuff in schools.

      Practical physics.

      Brilliant.

    • 578
      City of Vice says:

      Jeez, those yanks don’t fuck about….a few more bad guys get to say hello to Allah and pick up their 42 virgins on the way.

      Mind you, I hope Kabul City Council isn’t now missing a road repair gang otherwise someone in the 82nd Airborne is in trouble…

  53. 254
    Annoymouse says:

    I wonder how many, like myself, are working in a job (any job) and not fully utilising our education/qualifications/skills? I know a solicitor who has taken a seasonal lawn mowing job…..s’pose we should be grateful.

    • 260
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

      HAhahahahaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!

      rol

      lol

      lmao

      FUCK OFF YA PATHETIC MORON HHEheheeheeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • 305
        Annoymouse says:

        Oh i love the smell of “idiot” it makes me feel so much better about myself.

        But on a serious note, there are a lot of people who are keeping themselves out of the unemployment figures by taking anything available just to keep busy, thankfully these people are anything but “pathetic morons”. They are, however, taking low paid, low skill jobs away from those who don’t have the skills or qualifications to access more skilled roles. Which I guess is what is worrying the likes of Spedo.

    • 312
      Troll Basher says:

      I had a solictor on my lawn recently. Gave da bitch a fiver…

  54. 259
    Anonymous says:

    Hmmmm.
    How many of these people, I wonder, have chosen to be unemployed?
    Certainly nowhere near a majority- but definitely a hefty sum.

    • 261
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

      How do you survive without a brain — do you do it on instinct alone?

    • 284
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

      I got it – you work for the Jobcentre, right?

      • 344
        nell says:

        What would you know about job centres? Or jobs?

        You are a layabout with a dog flea infested throw over your settee and a pile of beer cans at your feet.

        You know nothing about working classes.

        Lawn’s up to your knees and there are decaying car parts in your front garden.

        You have never worked.

        • 431
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

          :-(

        • 491
          Troll Basher says:

          Got you right there chavface, innit

        • 795
          thick as thieves says:

          you’re a strange one aintcha troll basher.
          first you steal the term I regularly use of ‘bashing trolls’ and use it as your name, then you start using innit, which is another of my regular lines.
          you are very creepy indeed.
          aren’t you intelligent enough to think of your own comments? are you so simple and dimwitted that you just copy other peoples comments like a parrot?
          cretin.
          oh and you are definitley a woman, it is the way you nag on and on, that’s the giveaway.
          you are pathetic love, sadly pathetic.
          how very new labour.

        • 1070
          Budgie says:

          Less of the parrot, please.

        • 1270
          Troll Basher says:

          you is scared of wimmin innit tat? very scared!!! fookin virgin innit!

  55. 286
    jimmy says:

    That’s it nell, kick him in the bollocks. That’s where he keeps his one lonely brain cell.

  56. 292
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

    My old archeology professor at Oxford was a fine chap – they used to call him the “Iguana Don”.

    • 303
      Iguanan Don says:

      You’re still a twat, I see

    • 308
      caesars wife says:

      no problem identifying tryannsaurus Broon then

    • 317
      pimperne says:

      I’m willing to bet the only archeology you ever did at Oxford was rummaging through a skip behind one of the young ladies colleges looking for discarded underwear.

      • 328
        5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

        Well, to ther extent hat you have successfully identified a joke, I must congratulate you on your incisiveness. No I did not attend Oxford.

    • 333
      Ed Balls is a toff gone rancid says:

      Spelling!

    • 603
      jgm2 says:

      Archaeology. Your old archaeology professor.

      If you’re going to be a troll – at least get the basics right. If you’re claiming to have studied a subject at university – at least spell it right.

      Just saying.

      • 1072
        5pedo|♣5hort5 says:

        Listen, I am feeling charitable for some reason so let me educate you…..a MISSING letter is evidence NOT of poor spelling per se. Much more probable is the likeliehood of a key not being pressed hard enough as a person rapidly types on their keyboard. Do you have the nouse to appreciate that point, or did I waste my valuable tiem on you. Dontbother answerring, I can guess the answer.

  57. 301
    Sir Barrington Minge says:

    But who is ED BALLS?….and more importantly WHY?

    • 311
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

      very UNFUNNY – learn to spell willya – your kinda “bawls” has a dubbya in it.

      • 316
        Troll Basher says:

        tat I is watchin you

        • 332
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

          keep yer mirror for applying yer make up ya fuck faced bastard

        • 338
          monty says:

          Being the gentleman that I am, I don’t give old slappers like you a good kicking, but if you’d like to send your husband round, I’ll rip him a new asshole.

          All the best.

        • 460
          Troll Basher says:

          Spaedo you needs a new assole. The original is split

    • 324
      caesars wife says:

      shushhhhhhh top secret dark ops marxist experiment , they combined the genes of adolf hitler with a howler monkey .

  58. 327
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    So once Brown’s bust has delivered its 3 million on Job seekers, we’d be close to 1 in 5 economically inactive.

    Good job we are about to run into energy deficit then

    • 368
      Engineer says:

      Twelve years of socialism – actually, rather less, as they were reasonable responsible with the economy for the first term – has brought a fine and beautiful country to the point of bankruptcy. How long will it take to repair the damage? A generation? Two?

      Twelve months ago, I heard Geoff Hoon (may the fleas of a thousand badgers infest his armpits) declare on “Any Questions” that the labour government had delivered full employment. I wonder what planet he is on this year?

    • 378
      Engineer says:

      Twelve years of Socialism (actually rather less, since they were reasonably responsible with the economy for their first term) has brought a fine and beautiful country to the point of being completely skint. How long will it take to repair the damage? A generation? Two?

      Twelve months ago, I heard Geoff Hoon (may the fleas of a thousand badgers infest his armpits) declare on “Any Questions” that the Liebore government had delivered full employment. I wonder what planet he is on this year?

      • 384
        NewGirl says:

        HiEng! Usual funa nd games on here tonight I see….!
        You weren’t in the Guido Arms last night!

        • 395
          Engineer says:

          Hi, NG! No, was doing a bit of blogging – quietish night, but you were mentioned in despatches. Some rumour about you’re attending Guido’s do and being roped into an impromtu wet t-shirt competition. Bit of a little raver when you’ve had a glass or two of Pinot, aren’t you….

        • 399
          NewGirl says:

          Have to say it has been known…

        • 402
          Engineer says:

          Where’s Nell? Hope this troll hasn’t got to her, he seems to be a rather nasty specimen.

        • 405
          NewGirl says:

          Nell don’t write his name properly. i think it automatically gets modded.

          But also darling just ignore him. He’s not worth your words.

        • 417
          Engineer says:

          Think I’ve found Nell. She’s further up the thread having a sensible conversation with P.T.Barnum.

          PS Know you’re not too into the cricket, but if you do get lumbered with watching it for some reason, you might like to check out Stuart Broad – he’s English, 6′-7″, blond…..I’ll say no more…

        • 451
          Steve Expat says:

          Evenin’ NewGirl, you’ve missed the return of a couple of the old trolls tonight..

          I’m more interested in us geting the Aussies to follow on tomorrow than the respective physical merits of members of the team though Engineer!

        • 458
          Engineer says:

          Sure, but you and me are blokes, and NG is a girlie – just trying to see things from the other perspective!

          So my optimism this morning was not totally unfounded. What an enjoyable day, and tomorrow holds promise….I’ll say no more, don’t want to put the knockers on it.

          PS Ponting was definitely out – replay showed ball hitting bat, then pad.

        • 462
          Troll Basher says:

          Engineer, if you is one & not sum sprog, stop bein a fookin drip

        • 464
          jonty mcginger says:

          leave ‘im nell, ‘es not wurf it.

        • 525
          Steve Expat says:

          Eng, you ‘re chatting her up, aren’t you?

          After the Aussies had 3 wickets in as many overs this morning I thought it would be a bad day, but thankfully I was proved wrong.

          The replays I saw of Ponting’s wicket said that the wrong decision was given – he should have been out lbw but was given out caught when bat didn’t touch ball.

        • 554
          NewGirl says:

          You trying to set me up with a cricketer Eng?!

  59. 339
    Blackburn Raver says:

    did anyone see McDoom meeting Jock Stirrup outside No.10?
    It looked like jock was ‘cocking him a death ‘un’.

    • 384
      michel de montaigne says:

      Brown walks out, interupts a conversation between Stirrup and a uniformed soldier by offering to shake hands. Stirrup does so then turns away from Brown to continue his conversation. Stirrup 1 Brown 0

  60. 352
    Ed Balls is a toff gone rancid says:

    Socialism is a cult. Sucks in rubbish and fills them with ‘righteousness’. Cross them and they get rabid. Digging holes ever deeper. The tragedy is they do this to nations and real people. What is it in human psychology that produces such warped beings.

    Thatcher had it spot on. The Politics of Envy and hatred of their fathers. Take it out on everything that wise and good. Wreck what works. And leave others to clean up after them.

    Hateful bunch.

  61. 361

    By focusing on investment and job creation and retention people will be more likely to create a better and more agreeable outcome. British industry and society is a borderline basket case even after all the positive work Labour have done and falling back now is the last thing it needs. This is why being circumspect about tax freebies, and pressing forward with the Brown agenda and a fourth Labour government is needed more than ever.

    • 369
      nonnynoo says:

      FFS, will someone please switch him off?

      • 388
        caesars wife says:

        needed like gonahreer

        • 526
          Steve Expat says:

          do you mean ghonorrea?

        • 548
          TOO FAR says:

          Rightcharlytwat’s comments are all of the same old twaddle…. repeats the same theme, boring labour craptrap. NOTE ALL OF HIS (OR HER) POSTINGS.
          Go on, take notice….. Basic repeats of the same old shit, getting bloody boring. Going on and on and on and on on on on!
          Sort of person you meet at a funeral and begin to wish you were the star of the event!

          So piss off pissing us off by Repeating the same old socialist ideals that JUST DO NOT FUCKING WORK IN THE REAL WORLD!

      • 986
        Him says:

        Why, what have I done?

    • 1271
      shelling-out says:

      It’s the Labour way. Keep on saying the same old rubbish and hope people will eventually believe it.

      Unlucky.

  62. 379
    michel de montaigne says:

    Who says this Government will not be remembered. They will by me because under Labour we now have Shea Buttered Toilet rolls. Best thing since Tory buttered sliced bread.

  63. 381
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

    What was the subject of this discussion again – was it something to do with the FOUR MILLION UMEMPLOYED the tories gave us and whether we should “trust” them again?

    • 411
      grobdj says:

      That’s it: if it’s going well, aren’t we clever

      If not, it must somebody else’s fault, a global phenomenom or nobody understands you

    • 446
      nell says:

      It was to do with the 6.02 million public sector jobs that gordon has employed in the hope that they will vote for him in 2010.

      Oh and let’s not forget the 15000 that he is employing in his non-jobs every quarter from now on until infinity.

      The cost?- oh well millions/billions what does it matter? As long as they all vote for gordon at the next general election??!!

      How many helicopters and extra resources could that buy to keep our lads in Afghanistan alive- don’t be silly they aren’t going to vote for gordon are they!!!???

    • 465
      Engineer says:

      Question – How are all these public sector jobs paid for?

      Answer – Taxing the private sector. Private sector shrinks, public sector must shrink too – and there is plenty of scope….

    • 531
      Steve Expat says:

      The headline says 5.4 Million – so you’ve lost the art of reading too.

      So if you add the 5.4 Million to the 6 million working for the government (okay, adjust down to 4.6 million to account for the nurses, teachers and policemen) – that’s 10 million unproductive people of working age, nearly 30% than 17%

      And the rest of us are fucking paying the bill.

      Time’s up Gordoom, general election please…

      • 783
        5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

        Steve – I’m fifty five and fucked – you’re a smart young guy – get a fooking life, eh? You make Victor Meldrew seem cheerful by comparison.

  64. 387
    Angry Voter says:

    FFS get a different blog platform, this piece of shit falls over after a few hundred comments.

  65. 396
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

    The Dharma of the Buddha is not found in books. If you want to really see for yourself what the Buddha was talking about you don’t need to bother with books. Watch your own mind. Examine to see how feelings come and go, how thoughts come and go. Don’t be attached to anything, just be mindful of whatever there is to see. This is the way to the truths of the Buddha. Be natural. Everything you do in your life here is a chance to practice. It is all Dharma. When you do your chores try to be mindful. If you are emptying a spittoon or cleaning a toilet don’t feel you are doing it as a favor for anyone else. There is dharma in emptying spittoons. Don’t feel you are practicing only when you are sitting cross-legged. Some of you have complained that there is not enough time to meditate. Is there enough time to breathe? This is your meditation: mindfulness, naturalness in whatever you do.

    Achaan Chaa

    • 403
      the fuck party says:

      Fuck off.

    • 408
      caesars wife says:

      the yin and yang does not bode well for you tonight

    • 409

      I’m flattered that you’re stealing my material. There is truth in what you say however.

      Most of the tub thumping and wind from the right is driven by their fear that they’re losing power and influence. It’s got nothing to do with building a better world or good foreign relations, just the screaming of an ego scared of its own death.

      Calm down, dear. It’s only an ideology.

    • 412

      I’m flattered that you’re stealing my material, and there is truth in what you say

      Most of the tub thumping and wind from the right is driven by their fear that they’re losing power and influence. It’s got nothing to do with building a better world or good foreign relations, just the screaming of an ego scared of its own demise.

      Calm down, dear. It’s only an iideology.

    • 418

      I’m flattered that youve stolen my material, but there is truth in what you say.

      Most of the tub thumping and wind from the right is driven by a fear of losing power and influence. It’s got nothing to do with building a better world or good interntional relations, its just the squealing of an ego scared of its own demise.

      Calm down, dear. It’s only an i deology.

    • 419

      I’m flattered that youve stolen my material, but there is truth in what you say.

      Most of the tub thumping and wind from the right is driven by a fear of losing power and influence. It’s got nothing to do with building a better world or good interntional relations, its just the squealing of an ego scared of its own demise.

      Calm down, dear.

    • 421

      I’m flattered that youve pinched my material, but there is truth in what you say.

      Most of the tub thumping and wind from the right is driven by a fear of losing power and influence. It’s got nothing to do with building a better world or good interntional relations, its just the squealing of an ego scared of its own demise.

      Calm down, dear.

    • 423

      There is truth in what you say.

      Most of the tubthumping and wind from the Tories is driven by a fear of losing power and influence. It’s got nothing to do with building a better world or good interntional relations, its just the squealing of an ego scared of its own demise.

      Calm down, dear.

    • 424

      There is truth in what you say.

      • 430
        jimmy says:

        Your kama is bad. Do not cross the great river.

        Now fuck off.

      • 436

        Yin attracts Yin. Yang attracts yang. It’s why I advocate routing around the shrill and partisan by keeping it calm and readable. This may take a little insight and cause a little personal discomfort but a more mature position can be developed.

        The Tories are doing a great job of alienating anyone who might have sympathy with them at a national and more everyday level. Sure, it gets attention but it ultimately ends up biting them in the ass.

    • 432
      Sir William Waad says:

      I miss my spittoons. It seems that my last skandha was a llama and I’ve never got out of the habit.

      • 1428
        the noble bastiat says:

        most eastern philosophy is based on the semblance of profundity as opposed to rationalism which is the basis of most western philosophy (discounting marx et al). thats why its so beloved by the Hardtwat. You can say a whole load of nothing that basically boils down to ‘live your life while you’re alive’ or something equally pointless.

        http://www.econlib.org/library/Bastiat/basEss1.html

  66. 406
    Blackburn Raver says:

    Alan Yentob ate my dog.He diced it,he sliced it,he put it in a wok.Alan Yentob ate my dog.

  67. 415
    Anonymous says:

    Somebody told me this was the place to be. Seems like a bunch of Ras Clarts.

  68. 439
    field says:

    I don’t see why we can’t have free enterprise and a right to work.

    Every school leaver should be going into a proper paid job.

    Clearly some people are pretty useless but we need to create some incentives to get them to shape up a bit. Anyway, it’s got to be better than paying them to sit on the sofa watching Jeremy Kyle.

    If capitalism can’t think of some useful jobs, I am sure I can. We have a huge cultural asset in hundreds of very old churches around the country which lots of people would like to visit but they are kept locked most of the time.

    People could be employed on the minimum wage to keep an eye on premises.

    We could do with hundreds of information kiosks in towns around the country to help people find their way.

    Lots of our rivers could benefit from having rubbish cleared from them.

    I am sure others could come up with really useful jobs that aren’t being done at present.

    • 450
      Engineer says:

      I entirely agree with your sentiments, Field, but all the jobs have to be paid for, and the country is broke.

      Industry no longer needs the unskilled in the numbers it used to; industry needs people, but ones with qualifications and skills. If some of the money currently being spent by government on useless training schemes was released to industry, they could train up some of these people in skills that would be really useful. Industry gets the skills it needs, and people get skills that make them employable.

      • 457
        Steve Expat says:

        Bring back the old apprentice schemes and YTS, let those who want to leave school at 16 leave and learn a trade alongside a professional, the reason there are so many Polish builders, plumbers and electricians in the UK is because there is a shortage of tradesmen.

        There’s no point trying to make everyone go to univertity when they have no interest in academia.

        • 475
          Anonymous says:

          Let’s not have reality intruding on these ludicrous fantasies. No evidence needed. That’s the spirit.

        • 489
          PT Barnum says:

          You’re both right. We have, for example, a national shortage of radiographers and have to import them from abroad at inflated cost. Meanwhile, because of the ridiculous way in which university funding is deployed, where all degrees are treated as being of equal value, we are in danger of losing one of best training schools in this country for radiography, at Imperial.

          Go figure.

        • 492
          Engineer says:

          Apprentice schemes worked. Evidence? In my case, half a lifetime working with time-served craftsmen, technicians and draughtsmen. They learned transferrable skills, and gained self-confidence and pride in themselves.

          That route to adulthood is now, sadly, less available; but it works. Expanding availability of apprenticeships would be a good thing for all concerned.

        • 499
          PT Barnum says:

          Anonymous Labour Person

          You want evidence about the decline in student quality at universities, talk to me. Over a period of 25 years teaching in them the downward trend became all too apparent to me. There is only a certain proportion of the population intellectually equipped for degree level study, who may come from any social or educational background, which seems to run at a fairly consistent 3%. Sending the mediocre to university does nobody any favours, least of all the students.

        • 500
          somebodie wiv 6 good O levils says:

          Thats rite mr annonymus, peeple lyke mee diserve an good univrisity edukshun like, you now, uvvers who hav e it, like rich peeps and dat.

        • 540
          Steve Expat says:

          Call Me Dave – if you’re reading this, please take note of the comments above.

          Not everyone needs to go to university, give those who want to learn a trade or study vocationally the opportunity to do so…

        • 906
          Any Mouse says:

          Works well in Switzerland. The academics go to ‘real’ universities and the less academic to apprenticeship courses. No shortage of home grown, competent engineers, plumbers, electricians etc. Then they import immigrants to do the dirty work (service, cleaning etc). Not rocket science.

        • 1348
          Troll Basher says:

          We ain’t talkin cuckoo clocks here eejit.

    • 518
      PT Barnum says:

      I do find I’m wondering about the benefits of Welfare to Work. That is, if you are physically capable of working but aren’t, then you receive from the state your rent and food stamps. I would add free medical care to the US version. But that would be your lot. No actual cash at all would be given. Would that motivate people or only up the crime rate?

      • 562
        Steve Expat says:

        Difficult call – what I would do is keep the most of the payments but require work in return, in a similar way to community service handed out by the courts.

        If you’re unemployed for more than 6 months, you get half your benefits in food stamps and have to work maybe 15 hours a week in the community for the other half in cash – it really does make a difference to these sink estates when the place is clean & tidy and the graffiti removed quickly

      • 618
        Dr De'ath says:

        Radiology depts. are going down the toilet. They are fxxxing up left right and centre. This is not me saying this – it is the orthopods etc telling me.

        Fractures missed, cancers missed, brain tumours etc. The costs of missing of fractured knee is £hundreds of thousands. Total knee replacement. On the scrapheap DLA/ IB benefits for life at 40.

        Skimp on the radiology budget and the NHS claims budget goes way up.

        Brown is a short termer. He wants easy wins with no costs. Targets targets targets. Fxxk the quality. Cut him in half and it says “PFI”. The man is a scorched earther. It will take the NHS years to recover from his vandalism.

      • 676
        Anonymous says:

        I read these comments with a mounting sense of astonishment. What passes for thought, evidence, argument etc here is laughable.

    • 579
      Zed says:

      Positive Post. Well said.
      We, as a nation, have few opportunities to increase “import” revenue.
      Tourism, Manufacturing (or what’s left of it after NuLabour economic mismanagement) and Financial Services (after NuLabour economic …..)
      If Sterling’s devaluation is any advantage whatsoever we need to boost these markets.
      And Quick.

    • 617
      Anonymous says:

      Yes – we could follow the model so prevalent in the far east and have live-in maids who take a lot of their salary as room and board. That way ‘high value’ office workers would be more focussed on their jobs and more productive because they’d have people to take care of the uninteresting tasks like shopping and cleaning. I also have to say that a lot of the maids would benefit from being around functional normal individuals and families.

  69. 440

    Dear All

    I am appalled by the bad language and nastiness that this blog has descend into.

    It has to stop.

    Thank you.

    As a victim of nasty personal attacks I am shocked.

    Yours sincerely

    George Laird
    The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

    • 452
      peter andre says:

      You daft cυnt.

    • 467
      Troll Basher says:

      Here’s an idea. Don’t cum back. Den you won’t be shocked.

      Simples

      Fookin jock twat

    • 471
      youknowwho... says:

      No mercy for you, you sick, persecuting bastard. May your filth reach back and kiss you.

      • 537

        Dear youknowwho

        “No mercy for you, you sick, persecuting bastard. May your filth reach back and kiss you”.

        Thank you.

        But I don’t sign autographs.

        Yours sincerely

        George Laird
        The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

        • 570
          TOO FAR says:

          Human rights? in jockland,esp. Glasgow, the neothandrel capital of the UK MMM I supose there are a few English up there.
          I presume it only applies to us humans from south of the border. Haggis eating men wearing skirts surely cannot be from modern human stock!!

        • 1352
          Chris Gilmore says:

          Please dont stab me id the back again Georgie boy I cant take it no more.

  70. 445
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

    Very interesting story here BBC – but what is the picture of a leprechaun for????? (is there ANY native british left at the BBC who would know about such things without being told?).

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8144305.stm

  71. 461
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

    No politics on -telly so I have switched to Sty box number 0108 for 10.00pm to 1.00am with George Galloway. Try it!

  72. 473
    Troll Basher says:

    Spaedo shortz is fookin tat an his ripe ass is mine. Mine I tell eee

  73. 478
    CHESNEY HAWKES says:

    I AM THE ONE AND ONLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

  74. 483
    Zed says:

    I’m one of the economically inactive
    (together with 99% of the public sector)
    Can Work – but don’t as long as the taxpayer fills the void.

  75. 487
    Danielle says:

    I’ve got a job init, on the street corner, suckey suckey me love you long time if you have the right amount.

  76. 507
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

    Sorry about all my previous incoherent lunacy. I have taken my medication and shoudl bbe ccommatosse befforee lonn……

    • 680
      Alky Labour says:

      ………sound of gunshot and empty whiskey glass rolling across table

      • 778
        5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

        you’ve been suckered by one of your own – don’t complain to me, that’s what tories do best – deceit. EVEN when it is against their own kind.

  77. 509
    Danielle says:

    Has Derek failure Draper been poking his unborn childs head with his willy.

    him and dirty kate should be ashamed of doing the business while she’s up the duff.

    sick fucker.

  78. 517
    Mercian says:

    We could solve several problems in one go by making the unemployed work a treadmill hooked up to the National Grid. Only if they generated a certain amount of electricity would they get their dole money. This would encourage the idle so-and-sos to get a job, but if they didn’t, it solves the power problem.

    And before anyone asks, I’ve been made redundant 3 times in my career. I just got another job. It isn’t difficult, even in a recession. You just have to take the best job available, not your ‘dream job’.

    • 528
      Adrian Prole says:

      And when they take their tea breaks, the conventional power stations (while we still have them) can kick in from standby, just like they have to do with the windmills!

    • 569
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      You are clearly an advocate of a knowledge economy.

      • 582
        Adrian Prole says:

        I assume that you agree with my comment on the stupidity of wind farms. It would be good to hear your point of view, after all, that’s what we’re here for.

        I’m off to bed shortly, but I’ll try to catch up with you. Have a good night.

        • 657
          5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

          My point of view Adrian is that we cannot possibly know all the salient facts ourselves to make such judgments and that is why we elect politicians – not a perfect system,I grant you but better than any other alternative I can think of. You are tntiled to your opinion, of course: don’t be a windbag, “vote Labour”! Sleep well.

    • 915
      Any Mouse says:

      Brilliant. Solves the obesity problem too! I’m still in a spin about human windmills, though…

  79. 535
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    is this board fuckt?

  80. 543
    nell says:

    I’ m off to bed.

    Please Guido – Erase some of these trolls –

    Especially 5pedo !!

    The important issue. Who cares about our young men in Afghanistan ?!!

    Well NOT 5pedo and This Labour Gov

    • 572
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      No need to ask Nelly – he does it anyway — save my messages for posterity if you value them before the g00d guid0 deletes them forever.

  81. 553
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    Stop hounding the Afghans.

  82. 555
    caesars wife says:

    i think we can safely say that crick is a 5th columist .

    however just to pour water on his bonfire of a massive story (not)

    imagine gordon brown going to Afghanistan to meet the troops , with the troops having just lost a well respected colonell and 3 18yr olds , with them knowing he has short changed the heavy kit .

    do you think it would have gone well ??

    • 608
      caesars wife says:

      top it all broon has spent a whopping £4.3 million on private jet flying this year double what tone did .

      other bit of news that made me laugh
      Guess who has been trying to stop lisbon ratifcation in germany ??

      non other than a mr Stauffenberg son of von Stauffenberg who tried to blow up hitler . now thats history in action for you LOL

  83. 556
    nell says:

    Ok!! Our men in Afghanistan need helicopters. And we need them NOW.

    GORDON DO YOU HEAR?????.

    • 817
      Gordon Brown says:

      They can’t have them – next thing they’ll be doing is landing them on top of 10 Drowning St. Can’t have that. That’s also why we’re spying on them.

  84. 557
    Blackburn Raver says:

    Has anyone got the clip of McBagpuss being snubbed by Jock Stirrup?

    • 573
      Adrian Prole says:

      Saw it on telly, it was bloody funny. But Jonah still didn’t seem to get the message when Jock ignored him.

      • 601
        Zed says:

        Jonah doesn’t get ANY message – as he’s too busy “listening to the electorate”

  85. 560
    Dr Feelgood says:

    Troll central here today. Very, very unlikely that they’ll garner a single vote for Labour. No doubt under orders to fulfil a quota of ‘positive’ comments for Gordon, or just to cause disruption (bit like the USSR jamming Radio Free Europe).

    As discussed other day, don’t respond to them. It just feeds their desire for attention.

    Meanwhile, back in Labour Britain, anti-terror legislation is being used to spy on wounded soldiers. Beyond disgusting.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200478/MoD-covertly-films-hundreds-wounded-soldiers-seeking-compensation-theyre-lying.html

    • 564
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      Sir, you have a serious ego problem.

      (re Feeelgood vis-a-vis a fucked board)

    • 700
      PT Barnum says:

      These RIPA tactics are beneath contempt. I fear it’s less to do with money and much more to do with managing statistics about injured personnel. If they’re faking or exaggerating their injuries, then ‘obviously’ the government are doing a fine job in equipping them.

      Do we actually have figures on injuries in Iraq and Afghanistan? Deaths make headlines – correctly – but there is more than one way a young man’s life can be devastated.

  86. 561
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    Is it this board or ME that’s fucked? Me replies show oop as new massages.

  87. 571
    Zed says:

    I guess Gordon McDoom wished his Dunfermline neighbour “good luck” in the BB contest ?

  88. 576

    A rise in the quality of leadership, communication skills, the rational engineering mind, and a more polite service culture won’t emerge overnight. It’s going to take a while to turn the ship around as folks rediscover an interest in these things, education gears up, and business changes policy and practice to get with the new programme. But, there’s plenty of books, websites, and courses people can check out to give themselves a head start.

    Remember, Gordon loves all his children, including you.

    • 600
      olly says:

      Keep up the good work Gordy boy. You’re the best thing that has happened to the Tories in years.

  89. 580
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    Why the fook has evolution not eradicated tories? Fact is truly stranger than fiction, so far as THAT goes!

  90. 586
    Maynard Keenan says:

    When all is said and done i hope we get hit by a meteor or a giant biblical style flood wipes us all out. then they’re won’t be anything to worry about we will all return to the ZEN principle of MU.

    • 641
      5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

      Nearly right – but Zen is NOT hopeless, believe me! Remember – always “HOPE” never “FEAR”.

    • 820
      Gaia says:

      I can hardly wait. I want to be fucked, just like a planet should be. Whoooooppeeeeeeeeeeeee. Big bastard meteor to crash into me, then flood me.

      • 1076
        5pedo|♣5hort5 says:

        put it under your pillow with your Christmas list for Santa along with a new front tooth

  91. 593
    Blackburn Raver says:

    Smithy has been whinging on tv about how she wasnt up to the job.She could put a claim in for retraining.Or spend her time fucking along to gay porn.

  92. 594
    Zed says:

    Just spent a day in hospital looking after my son.
    Staff were VERY unwilling to release him as he was 100% and they took 2 days to diagnose and treat what ought to have been a 4 hour visit – so he signed himself out.
    80+ staff, 10+ patients on the floor.
    Were we just window dressing at taxpayer expense ?
    Discuss.

  93. 606
    IGGLE PIGGLE says:

    Yes – my name is Igglepiggle, Igglepiggle, wiggle, niggle, diggle! Yes – my name is Igglepiggle, Igglepiggle, niggle, wiggle, woo!

  94. 612
    Boris Carloffe says:

    Just heard of Conspiracy to stop Brown visting troups.

    Army said it was too dangerous.

    Was it too dangerous because our troups would shoot him?

    Or too dangerous for our troups to be ‘Encouraged by Jonas Brown?

    Seriously I think McMental should be encouraged to spend an extended time with our troups and for sexual company on an evening to take Mandy with him,

    Brown should march ahead of our troups carrying a large Union Jack and when he falls hopefully dead the flag can be passed to his friend and companion Lord Mandleson so carry on until he too is shot.

    • 836
      Anonymous says:

      “…………Just heard of Conspiracy to stop Brown visting troups………..?????”

      I think you mean “troops” – “troups” are something entirely different and something that Brown would no doubt be more comfortable visiting than actually having to explain to our soldiers exactly why he decided that they could do without helicopter support by slashing £1.4 Billion off the budget when he was Chancellor in 2004

      • 869
        Charwaller says:

        He’s going to see “It ain’t ‘alf ‘ot mum” starring Mandy as Gloria, and Bob Ainsworth as Sergeant Major Shutup.

  95. 623
    Zed says:

    60M inhabitants.
    12M Children
    16M Over 60’s
    8M Early retirements/economically inactive
    5.4M Unemployed
    300,000 (middle classes/taxpayers) emigrating annually
    Who’s paying the bills ?

    • 653
      Steve Expat says:

      You are…

      • 679
        Anonymous says:

        Don’t worry, at least we’ve got the Queen. She’ll make sure it’s alright.

        • 731
          Claus Trophobic says:

          60M inhabitants – if only! We might be able to park closer to our front doors!
          Try 70M, and the door remains stubborly wedged open, despite Britain possessing the best moat in Europe (and this is a Labour moat).
          What is the government’s plan on population? Why have they allowed this imbalance between space, resources and people to happen? – even a five-year-old would recognise this as unhealthy and totally unsustainable.

        • 735
          bozo the chump says:

          It just so happens that the Labour government have got the collective intelligence of a 3 year old, so we’re fucked.

        • 744
          barefootcontessa says:

          it’s a known fact that animals don’t like living too close together. They feel stress, they start fighting, and subsequently thet kill each other.

  96. 630
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    AND another thing, why is it all you London males have such squeaky shrill choir boy voices – is that why they hate the northerners so much – jealousy?

    • 658
      handy andy says:

      You don’t get a more virulent form of the politics of envy than oop north tha’ knahs.

      • 666
        5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

        Yeh but yeh but yeh but I am not talkin aboot politics lad – I am talking aboot your poofy soudning voice. Say what you want about us chuck, am I bovvured?

        • 730
          handy andy says:

          Err…..just to break it to you gently like. Nobody actually talks on this blog, it’s all written material.

          I don’t know what you’re on, but I’d change your supplier if I were you.

          Dopey Hoon.

        • 747
          barefootcontessa says:

          They’re all tribal homophobes oop North.

        • 773
          5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

          Andy, you squeaked that out very well lad….yer an honourary northerner now!

  97. 648
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    I sense the quality of debate has markedly diminished….fuck of Anonymous, eh?

  98. 649
    English Viking says:

    This blog is rapidly becoming nothing more than an advertisement for Charles Harwidge and his insane ramblings. TAT is also extremely tedious, although less faulty in his logic. For goodness sake Guido, Ban these muppets.

  99. 651
    Ben Bradshaw says:

    Can i claim for another gay mag? my old ones are all glued up.

    • 749
      barefootcontessa says:

      Do you think you’ll have time between hair and nail appointments dear?

  100. 652
    It looks even worse from Tokyo says:

    Here in Japan it’s impossible for an able bodied working age person to live on welfare for more than six months. So, guess what, they either get jobs or go and live with their relatives who then nag them to – get a job. Nasty, eh?
    And there are jobs available doing boring things – cleaning, tidying and generally maintaining everything so that the city is very clean and everything works properly. It’s considered shameful not to work at all, most pensioners try to get part time jobs too. The UK has this losers’ culture that it’s ok to be a parasite. No wonder everything is so second rate. Get rid of New Lowbar and the Lying Scotsman and wake up the population to what it takes to be competitive in the world. I think it’s called “hard work”.

  101. 654
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    Here’s another Anonymous for ya

  102. 662
    5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    I am convinced this board is fucked – displayed messges jump from 1.40am’ish to 10pm’ish. fucked, that’s what it is just like the country would be if the Bullingdon Club and DC every got his way.

    click here

  103. 663
    Abdul Mohamed Yassi says:

    allah has fucked your board infidels

  104. 665
    Angry Voter says:

    Fuck off with your whining Nell and take your modding issues to someone who gives a shit.

  105. 669
    Anon says:

    “We need a system like Slashdot has – user-based moderation, so comments can be voted down. You can then set a threshold and comments with more negative votes than the threshold are hidden. Perfect.”

    You sound Edward HardCock Esq.

  106. 673
    Nell says:

    Guiiiiiiiiddddo – pweety pwease, pwease un-mod me now. Oherwise I’ll scweam and scweam and scweam.

    • 832
      Engineer says:

      Klingon on the starboard bow.

      • 837
        Ewanme says:

        Easy tiger! x .

        E x .

      • 840
        Master Baiter says:

        You klingon if you want to.

      • 842

        The principles of Zen would e useful in such a situation. Graphic fidelity coupled with the inner essence of feng shui. Traditional feng shui practice always requires an extremely accurate Chinese compass, or moral compass, in order to determine the directions in finding any auspicious sector in a desired location. This applies to graphical interfaces too.

        One of the grievances mentioned when the anti-Western Boxer Rebellion erupted was that Westerners were violating the basic principles of feng shui in their construction of railroads and other conspicuous public structures throughout China. At the time, Westerners had little idea of, or interest in, such Chinese traditions. After Richard Nixon journeyed to the People’s Republic of China in 1972, feng shui became somewhat of an industry in the USA.

        • 872

          You’re an impostor – I’m the real Charles_E_Hardwidge. Jeez, haven’t you got anything better to do that to rip off my material and impersonate me?

        • 882
          Alky Labour says:

          CEH why are you both from Labourlist then (click properties)…. Fucktard talking to yourself now you spanner.

        • 931

          The Japanese are masters in graphics and the institutional methods of both creating and maintaining graphical fidelity in the on-line world. I am writing a book on this. It will explain the PC graphics hardware to a very deep level, and how it impacts code performance. It will treat both 2-D and 3-D graphics and animation in great detail. I hope it will show that graphics optimization is largely a right-brain process, not simply one of counting cycles and analyzing CPU execution speed.

          My book also provides tools and rationales for measuring performance of animated graphics in a Zen aura. It provides examples of optimized graphics in both fundamental figures like lines, circles, and ellipses, as well as elaborate 3-D objects composed of multiple polygons. The industry’s best and most-detailed coverage of BSP treeswill feature, along with the cutting-edge algorithm that makes breathtaking real-time animated 3-D graphics possible all within an environment where one must take graphics and their existential fidelity scores when deciding how and where graphics are placed on a web site.

        • 1269
          Troll Basher says:

          Dont forget to mention their small pen­ises in yer book.

      • 855
        Engineer says:

        Imposter – TROLL ALERT!

      • 865
        Engineer says:

        Engineer at 3-50pm. Imposter.

        Engineer at 5-35pm. The real one.

        • 910

          Who is real and who is not so real on here, you or someone else.

          Yours sincerely

          George Laird
          The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

    • 838

      That it is not a valid argument.

      Fuck you.

      Yours sincerely

      George Laird
      The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

    • 896
      nell (the real one) says:

      Imposter.

  107. 681
    I never briefed that darling was for the chop, Tom Bradby, I'm honest Gordon says:

    BBC executives received £1,000 in licence fee payers’ money to cut taxes on pensions
    Fifteen BBC executives were allowed to claim £1,000 of licence fee payers’ money each so they could get advice on how to minimise the tax bill on their million-pound pensions.

    • 715
      greg says:

      What do they call someone who like to get their hands on other peoples money? Oh yeah, a thief.

  108. 682
    Anonymous says:

    The Jihad fanatic peddling a message of hate to 11-year-old Londoners (funded by the taxpayer)

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200442/The-Jihad-fanatic-peddling-message-hate-11-year-old-Londoners-funded-taxpayer.html#ixzz0LaapfWF1

    So fighting in Afghanistan will protect us will it? They are already here and Alan Johnson wants more? No one is protecting us now from the above, carry on islamifying our nation

    • 703
      PT Barnum says:

      “According to terrorism experts, Choudary is the recruiting sergeant for what U.S. intelligence dubs Britain’s ‘Generation Jihad’.”

      ‘Generation Jihad’ – that’s a phrase I’ve never heard before. I wonder why. Do Americans get more truth about our national security than we do?

      And, as keeps being made clear by events, this is not an issue about race but about religion. Converts are always the most extreme members of any group and it seems we have increasing numbers of caucasian muslims prepared to go to war against their own country.

    • 717
      Angry Voter says:

      Fucking Muslims can fuck right off UK territory. Repatriate the whole fucking lot.

      Those who were born here can be taken to Afghanistan if they don’t know where else to go. Let them create ghettos over there instead of here. Good for target practice if nothing else.

      Dirty bastards. Fuck off.

      • 720
        PT Barnum says:

        You’re missing the point. Most of the actual and would-be terrorists were born, educated and employed in the UK, including a number of white muslims. How the hell are you going to ‘repatriate’ them? They’re already home.

        • 723
          Pissed Off says:

          I said send them to Afghanistan. They want a democratic country built there. Ideal opportunity.

  109. 684
    Anonymous says:

    Christian teacher tells of race slurs by pupils aged 8

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200489/Christian-teacher-tells-race-slurs-pupils-aged-8.html#ixzz0LacDndKH

    You had better wake up before it is too late.

    • 716
      Angry Voter says:

      Fucking Muslims can fuck right off UK territory. Repatriate the whole fucking lot.

      Those who were born here can be taken to Afghanistan if they don’t know where else to go. Let them create ghettos over there instead of here. Good for target practice if nothing else.

      Dirty bastards. Fuck off.

      • 736
        Anonymous says:

        I’m counting on the 2 million Hindus who live here to start getting the boot in. They love a good dust up with the muzzies.

    • 718
      Pissed Off says:

      Most types on here get obsessed with Mandy & Co and nothing else. The real danger is more prevalent and nearer than they think.

    • 742
      NanziBoy-Nicky and his Comedy Fascists says:

      Some you appear lost.

      This is a political gossip site not some homoerotic skinhead St*rmfront webshite.

      Go there if you want to rant and have intimate discussions with “fellow” Nanziboys.

      • 743
        jolly noncing weather says:

        “This is a political gossip site not some homoerotic skinhead St*rmfront webshite.”

        You must be gutted then.

        • 746
          NanziBoy-Nicky and his Comedy Fascists says:

          Look up “Irony” in a dictionary, if you can find one, shit for brains.

        • 750
          jolly noncing weather says:

          If you just drop the y, it describes you perfectly, so well done.

      • 754
        Anon says:

        Fucking twat, you going to lie down and take having the country fucked like a man?

        • 786
          NanziBoy-Nicky and his Comedy Fascists says:

          Like I said, for those wishing to see Homoerotic Nanziboys “lie down” and “fucked like a man” piss off to St*rmfront or the B&P’s webdrivel.

          The country is in trouble because of the fucking recession presided over by Brown. Don’t blame me if you’re too terminally stupid to realise that.

          You can live in your little bubble and dream of deporting as many people as you like because it won’t change that for a second.

          Scapegoat away as Nanziboy Nicky and his cromagnons will always be a joke running away squealing from a few eggs and whining because they will never be more than a fleeting small protest vote for the dregs and wannabe NanziBoys.

        • 900
          Blog Police WARNING says:

          This thread belongs on the extremetwats blog

        • 921
          extremetwats says:

          Yeah, hope to see you there.

        • 979
          You says:

          I don’t go there

  110. 686
    Anonymous says:

    The BBC news doing a pr job for Sarah Brown this morning. Sarah’s wonderful writing and internet and twittering is making her a wonderful career.

    Wouldn’t be any thing to do with the fact that she’s the prime ministers wife would it?

  111. 687
    Anonymous says:

    Labour is to change the law to allow life peers to quit the upper house, raising the prospect that Peter Mandelson could stage yet another unlikely comeback and return to the political fray in the House of Commons.

    Lord Mandelson’s resurgent political career has been capped – until now – by his elevation to the House of Lords.

    Political betting was placing bets on this but ladbrokes will not now take any bets on mandelson becoming labour leader or PM.

    • 692
      Anonymous says:

      FUCKIN HELL LOOK AT THE NUMBER 666

      ITEM ABOUT MANDELSON, THE DEVIL HIMSELF

    • 704
      PT Barnum says:

      Every cloud… Mandelson as PM/Labour leader would be a step too far even for the most diehard Labour voter.

      • 727
        Anon says:

        You think? They’re thick as two short planks. Their parents are ideal adverts for the advantages of sterilisation at birth.

      • 732
        Scorched Earth says:

        Or the Labour backbenches.
        Mandy will never be PM any more than Karl Rove or Cheney could be President. They are simply too repulsive for the average voter to swallow.

        But it does mean Mandy has more options when Brown gets booted.
        Which no doubt was the point. Europe may beckon soon enough.

        However the ludicrousness of allowing Lords to “resign” but not force out even those who are sent to PRISON, is utterly risable.

    • 776
      excellentcatblogger says:

      He could always try to become MP when Gorbal Mick’s bye election takes place in Glasgow. That he is English means nothing as one of the Edinburgh Labour MP’s is English

  112. 689
    Anonymous says:

    The ultimate demise of democracy in the UK. It started when Blair and Brown were elected to power in the liebour party. They and liebour have been working at it ever since.

    Their ultimate goal,

    THE UNITED STATES OF EUROPE, FAST APPROACHING.

  113. 690
    Mandelson says:

    Good Morning Campers

    I WILL be the next leader of the Labour Party.
    Even that esteemed blog….politicalbetting.com have a thread on that as I write.

    Have a nice day!!!

  114. 693
    That's the way it is says:

    America has lost Walter Kronkite. Must have been in touch with Gordo recently.

  115. 694
    mitch says:

    Land Rover has produced what it claims is the world’s first indestructible mobile phone.

    For £250 you can expect a handset that will withstand temperatures of minus 20c, can be submerged in water and will survive being dropped on to concrete from a height of 6ft.

    Ideal for a PM getting a bad news sandwich.

    • 695
      freddie flintoff says:

      inspired by brown wont sell then lad
      o/t see that bowling yesterday lads ? over 90mph and hussys wicket was a good nut

    • 1142
      Land Rover Lemon says:

      Land Rover hasn’t actually produced anything. They have simply signed up to a branding agreement with a mobile phone manufacturer called Sonim. The same phone is also available in bright yellow branded as a JCB. It’s also of course available as a Sonim. As usual the press just swallow the entire PR blurb.

  116. 696
    Anonymous says:

    “Carry on coming here” starring Alan Johnson.

    Just want the world to know that you can carry on coming into the UK.

    It’s no problem, we have the resources to cope and look forward to a big increase in the UK population and the CO2 emissions that that brings.

    We will just build more houses, hospitals and bigger social services for them.

    • 719
      greg says:

      That’ll go down well with the electorate. Just let the plonker carry on with his stupid remarks.

      It’s been clear for years that New Labour are the ‘do nothing’ party in this area.

  117. 697
    Anonymous says:

    Liebour look after every body else except the people that supported them through the years.

    Harriet Harman and her government spending your money to educate the Afghans at the cost of our soldiers blood and your money.

    This is what she said in the HofC

    This mission is also important for the education of people in Afghanistan. There are now 6 million children in school in that country, compared with only 1 million in early 2001. Our troops have paved the way, working with other international forces, to make that possible. They are paving the way for economic development and a more secure democracy as well as security in the region and the world. We want to make it clear to our soldiers, their families and the people of this country that we have no doubt about the importance of the mission in Afghanistan.

    They want a democratic Afghanistan but not a democratic UK. Remember they want to takes us into a UNITED STATES OF EUROPE WITHOUT A VOTE THAT THEY PROMISED IN THEIR MANIFESTO. So spill our soldiers blood for democracy in Afghanistan but not here. You couldn’t make it up could you.

    • 1214
      WokinghamChris says:

      Yeah like I said, leaving to one side our alloted roles as walking wallets and mobile sperm banks, man-hating feminists like Harman have actually found another use for men.

      They are sending men to be killed in Afghanistan, so that girls can go to school.

      And as it’s only men, why on earth should McMental spend more money on equipment to save their lives, when the money could be better spent on buying the votes of NuLab’s victim client groups?

  118. 698
    Anonymous says:

    Oldest WWI veteran Henry Allingham dies aged 113. We thank you and salute you.

    Any one know why he bothered? Did he fight for democracy?

    UNITED STATES OF EUROPE HERE WE COME.

    LAIDES AND GENTELEMEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF EUROPE, TONY BLAIR.

    • 701
      Trough Mixture says:

      A phenomenal stand by Mr Allingham. Part of a generation of young people lied to by their leadership – pccpclmc. Though frail, he appeared to have an active mind and wicked sense of humour to the end. Go well to the big hangar Henry and rest in perfect peace.

    • 705
      freddie flintoff says:

      he had a good innings lad

    • 758
      barefootcontessa says:

      Well? What are you going to do about it?

    • 846
      Infanta of Castile says:

      Given some of the posts above, maybe it could be Lord Mandelson who becomes President of the USE

  119. 699
  120. 728
    Sir Richard de Vere says:

    Many people here are far too soft on what is known as “the unemployed.” In fact, these workshy layabouts should be taken out on a daily basis and beaten about the head with a heavy rubber hose. This could take place within a closed arena where spectators could pay an admission fee to watch the entertainment. In this way we could discourage filthy, lying, lazy bastards who scrounge dole (that’s ALL of them) while using our entrepeneurial skills to create wealth. At the same time, we could charge sadists to perform the beating–and they’d get a good, healthy workout to boot.

    • 738
      NeoConservative humour is the funningest humour in the world says:

      Tell you what.
      Ask the publc who they would like to see get that treatment.
      Choosing from the unemployed, Bankers, Polticians and Newspaper hacks and see who gets the most votes ?

      If you need the obvious pointed out to you we are in a recession with many thousands of people losing their jobs as small businesses go to the wall up and down the land.

      The public knows perfectly well where the blame lies.

      • 834
        Voodoo Economix says:

        And when those have been despatched, there are plenty of estate agents, second hand car dealers and architects to take their place. Soon have the unemployed back to work, won’t we. So, Sir Dickie, will you have the first bash?

  121. 734
    Anonymous says:

    Never one to miss a press opportunity, Prime Minister Gordon Brown paid tribute to the war hero, calling him a “tremendous character”.

    “I had the privilege of meeting Henry many times. He was a tremendous character, one of the last representatives of a generation of tremendous characters,” he said.

    He added: “My thoughts are with his family as they mourn his passing but celebrate his life.”

    More decency and honesty in oone atom of him than all of the labour party put together.

    This brave man fought for democracy for the British people. More than Brown Blair and Mandelson have or will ever do.

    They want a UNITED STAES OF EUROPE WITH BLAIR AS THE PRESIDENT, THIS IS NOT SCAREMONGERING, BUT MORE THAN CLEAR NOW.

    Don’t even bother belieeving their next manifesto, not worth the paper its written on. LIED ABOUT A REFERENDUM, WILL LIE AGAIN ABOUT ANYTHING JUST TO KEEP POWER.

    • 740
      dicky says:

      “Never one to miss a press opportunity, Prime Minister Gordon Brown paid tribute to the war hero, calling him a “tremendous character”.

      That’s it then, he really is dead. Even Lazarus would be fucked by that one.

      • 763
        PT Barnum says:

        Although it would seem that, despite several Jonah attempts, Henry survived ’several’ meetings with Brown.

        Perhaps the older generation have an acquired immunity to Gordie as they have with swine flu.

  122. 764
    Swiss Bob says:

    One for the Liberal party: A young Polish plumber writes: Stanislav, it all shit is.

  123. 779
    kris Alienz says:

    This really is the world’s greatest scumblog guys and give yourself all a pat on the back you lot are what makes it what it is. Well done you bunch of losers.

  124. 782
    kris Alienz says:

    SCUMBLOG of the year, yes you sad bunch you’ve won, give yourselves a pat on the back, congratulations losers

  125. 800

    This is a bit off topic but when I was thinking about the new compact camera I’d bought the other day, I was wondering why its sensor, brain, and other stuff couldn’t be upgraded or swapped out.

    Yeah, I know a compact camera is a toy. I’m using it to get used to stuff before getting an SLR and camcorder but forced obsolescence niggles me. Another annoyance is bring in a new range with a few “must have” features and dropping functionality, so you’re forced to level up to the “premium” range.

    Anyway, I just discovered RED movie cameras. You can swap the guts in and out to tailor for the job or available finance. I think, that’s an interesting comment on growth versus development, and raises questions about British industry and markets.

    • 843
      caesars wife says:

      try a bit off planet !

      • 850
        brad pitt says:

        Yeah Fuckwidge, try Uranus, you might find it strangely familiar in a down and dirty kinda way.

        BTW, you do know this site for political gossip don’t you? It’s not for boring the pants off everybody about cameras you deluded cretin.

      • 894
        little red dot says:

        camcorder??? WTF? So last year

    • 866
      Thick as thieves. says:

      Charles, you only bought a digital camera so you could post pictures up of your cheesy little dick.

      • 871

        You’re just attention seeking and trying to control the narrative that’s circulating. Regular folks and thrill seekers can get caught up in that, but it’s much better for everybody to write the best comment they can.

        However, the important thing is the government continues to focus on facilitating success and show they’re on people’s side in this testing period.

        Be still, grasshopper.

        • 913
          kranky says:

          “……..but it’s much better for everybody to write the best comment they can.”

          That lets you off the hook then, you cheesy dicked bastard.

  126. 802
    Fees Office Clerk says:

    Henry Allingham sadly died today. If I had been one of his relatives I’d have insisted that Gordon Brown hadn’t made that personal visit to the WW1 veteran!

  127. 803
    PT Barnum says:

  128. 804
    Reevo says:

    The facts are simple: No state has EVER taxed, or borrowed, its way to prosperity.

    There should be no income tax at all — people should be free to keep everything they earn. People will say how then can we be certain that people will do the “right” thing with their money? There can be no such certainty — but that is what freedom is all about: the right of people to do what they want with what belongs to them — save, spend, invest, donate, hoard, or even destroy their own money and property.

    Great Britain has never been about freedom, so live with it or shut the fuck up!

  129. 805
    Anonymous says:

    I see Cherie Blair has got pig flu but isn’t that normal for her?

  130. 807
    Anonymous says:

    OTbut this is on the BBC website:-

    “The Ministry of Defence has defended the practice of effectively spying on servicemen suspected of lodging false claims for damages for injuries.

    Since 2000, 284 claims have been secretly tracked and monitored, less than 1% of all claims, the MoD says”.

    So does that mean at least 28,400 servicemen have been injured badly enough to claim compensation?

    Thats a lot more than the MOD claim.

    Think before you spin…..

    • 813
      PT Barnum says:

      According to MoD website….

      For the period 1 January 2006 to 30 June 2009:

      Centrally available records show that:

      * 696 UK military and civilian personnel were admitted to UK Field Hospitals and categorised as Wounded in Action, including as a result of hostile action.
      * 1,859 UK military and civilian personnel were admitted to UK Field Hospitals for disease or non-battle injuries.
      * 87 UK personnel were categorised as Very Seriously Injured from all causes excluding disease.
      * 117 UK personnel were categorised as Seriously Injured from all causes excluding disease.
      * 2,192 UK personnel were aeromedically evacuated from Afghanistan on medical grounds, whatever the reason.

      Although they say they’re not quite sure this is accurate or complete.

      So 284 personnel is a lot more than 1%.

      • 889
        nell (the real one) says:

        The truth about the MoD is that it is no friend of our serviceman and neither is this government.

        Look at how they have abandoned all the service hospitals and now make our injured serviceman queue for treatment at NHS hospitals alongside the civilian population.

        It’s a disgrace. As for that surveillence – well that is just so much a part of this rotten and rotting government -

        They are even surveying what we throw away in our dusbins now – actually that might be a good job for gordon when he’s made redundant next June.

  131. 808
    Porky Pies MP says:

    It’s more than 5.4 million. What about all the OAP’s lazing about in care homes and such. Surely these should be made to take a NL test to see if they can do at least some work, light clerical duties for instance.

  132. 819
    Anonymous says:

    There would be enough jobs if the greedy lot (from middle managers upwards) in all sectors weren’t being paid such hugely inflated ‘renumeration’ packages.

    This country has been living on credit for far too long and the more credit that is made available the higher the cost of living will be – the rich will get richer and the poor poorer. We all need to live within our means and stop all the credit malarky and speculation.

    The Bank of England is a joke – no one takes any notice of its ‘official’ interest rates and they don’t have the legal authority to enforce the rates. Its a joke.

    Printing more money – money that doesn’t exist because the Bank of England does not have the ‘gold’ or disposits and putting it into the already fictional money supply is fraud on a massive scale and why the police haven’t investigated this is beyond me.

  133. 821
    udderly orrible says:

    Hundreds of thousands of the unemployed are not working because that’s what the religion of peace tells to do. If that were stopped some of McEatshisSnot wasted billions might be returned to the Treasury:

    “Choudary’s recruits are told that it is their Muslim duty to claim benefits, ensuring that they make no contribution to the ‘enemy’ British state.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200442/The-Jihad-fanatic-peddling-message-hate-11-year-old-Londoners-funded-taxpayer.html

  134. 824
    So17 says:

    Including non essential paper shuffling jobs and stay at home mums, kids and old folk on top of the sick/unemployed we are in the tens of millions of people being carried by an ever decreasing wealth creation sector.
    Fuckety fuck.

  135. 828
    John Lyon CB - Do Not Disturb says:

    Be like me, employed on a nice fat taxpayer salary, but not actually doing anything, sort of employed but unemployed, perfect!

  136. 839

    From a recent away day meeting near Strasbourg.

  137. 845
    Trough Mixture says:

    Aggers:

    “…and Siddle comes in. Pietersen comes up to meet him with a firm crack!”

  138. 848
    rent o killer says:

    Hey Guido, this blog needs some serious spring cleaning, and a call to pest control wouldn’t go amiss either.

  139. 856
    Hardwidget's Nursey says:

    Had to take Charlie to A&E today. His poor, blistered, red-raw pecker started to go septic. It was such an embarrassment explaining to the lovely young doctor that Charlie can’t keep his hands off it.

    I could see he was surpressing a grin when I told him that Charles is a very determined wanker.

    They gave him some steroid ointment for the swelling and antibiotics for the yellow oozing sores.

    I’ve been old to tie his “hand restraining straps” even tighter tonight.

  140. 857
    UB40 says:

    I have a one inch head

  141. 859
    nell says:

    Have you un-modded me yet Guido?

    • 861
      PT Barnum says:

      Have you seen the state of this place? It’s like a palace after an orgy was interrupted by a bunch of gatecrashing football hooligans with ASBOs.

      Our host is evidently in transit to La Belle France. And there’s nobody with a mop and broom to do some cleaning.

      • 887
        nell (the real one) says:

        Yes indeed PT and that person at 835 is not me. Hopefully by tomorrow he can begin a clean-up operation.

        I wonder if I have any rat poison in my shed.

    • 875
      imperial leather says:

      nell, face it luv, you’ve been banned.

      have a nice life, well sort of, and ta ta.

  142. 862

    Some people want to “win” so much that they forget proper form and attitude. No lie is too big. No punch is too low. The immaturity of the Tory trolls that populate this blog is a perfect example.

    Typical Tories, still unfit for office. I suggest they read up on Zen.

    • 873
      jolly noncing weather says:

      “Some people want to “win” so much that they forget proper form and attitude. No lie is too big. No punch is too low.”

      Yeah, fuck off Brown.

    • 886
      nell (the real one) says:

      gordon says- as our young men are dying in Afghanistan, that we have enough helicopters (BIG LIE)- now he’s has to do a U Turn. Bet he chucked his nokia.

      bob not up to the job instructs his minions to smear General Dannatt in the hope of shutting him up and stopping any more truths about our under-funded, under-supported, forces (Punch Too Low)

      No political party and no other british government will ever fall as low as this one has.

      • 1051
        Scorched Earth says:

        Trouble is nell a few more helicopters isn’t going to turn this shitstorm around.

        Brown has been pennypinching in Afghanistan and shortchanging the troops on the ground while aproving multi-Billion vanity projects like New-Trident and the Eurofighter etc.

        Sadly, there is no coherent Policy from Cameron on this other than saying he is not happy with things as they are.

        For those who don’t know the troops dying just now aren’t dying to stop fictitious Taliban Terrorists attacking “over here”. And the Attacks we have had on British soil were planned in Pakistan not Afghanistan.

        The purpose of current offensive in Helmand is to try and keep the most hardcore of the Taliban away from Kabul so that when Karzai is Elected in a few weeks it doesn’t look like a complete farce. Karzai being one of the top ten most corrupt Political Leaders in the World with little or no influence outside Kabul and a Government of Mullahs little different to what the Taliban were all about in their adherance to Shariah Law.

        The other purpose of the offensive is to try and drive the Taliban to the negotiations table. Absolutely no sign of that.

        So do we keep doing this ever year just to keep appearances up with Karzai or someone very like him ?

        Because we did it for Karzai 4 years ago and the Taliban got STRONGER with him in power not weaker. 4 more years of this worth it ? To achieve what ?

        Phased withdrawalls are coming just like they came to Iraq.
        Trouble is the Political classes don’t want to tell anybody just yet.

    • 935

      Outstanding post Charles. Keep the faith comrade!

      It’s nice to hear some sense on this blog for a change. Notice how the Toryboys respond to your logical argument? With personal abuse and ad hominem drivel.

      The Tories and “Libertarians” are incapable of listening to reason or logic. They simply lack the intellectual subtlety to cope with the 21st century.

  143. 870
    Anonymous says:

    Labour working hard…….
    to impoverish the citizens

  144. 878

    I see I am being impersonated by a troll. I haven’t posted on here since 11.18pm last night, when I gave up because of the trolls.

    And what has happened to this place? It looks like it’s been hit by a hurricane.

    I hope Guido hurries up and gets himself settled in France and gets his laptop unloaded so that he can sort it out. Then he’ll be able to tell which of us are real and which are not.

    Time for a night out.

    • 883
      Engineer says:

      Nell, what have you done to your screen-name? It’s gone all linky, but doesn’t link to anything.

      Not sure we should have let Guido go on holiday, the place falls apart and becomes infested with undesirables when we do.

      • 885
        nell (the real one) says:

        ++sigh++ smile++

        I noticed – something to do with that http link at the bottom of the reply box – I’ve tried to clear it – and I’m posting this to see if its OK.

        Looks as if there has been a bit of a free for all on here since last night. No Guido obviously.

  145. 898
    Agent 99 says:

    HERES ONE TO CHEER YOU UP ON A SATURDAY NIGHT

    The Conservatives have topped 40 per cent in the opinion polls for the first time since May. The 17-point Tory advantage is the largest recorded by YouGov since September 2008, on the eve of the most intense phase of the banking crisis.

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090718/tuk-tories-poll-lead-back-to40-dba1618.html

    Labour are Fuc*ed with a Captital F

  146. 899
    Agent 99 says:

    New Poll

    The poll put the Tories on 42 per cent (up two since a similar survey last month), Labour on 25 per cent (up one) and Liberal Democrats on 18 per cent (unchanged).

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090718/tuk-tories-poll-lead-back-to40-dba1618.html

    • 901
      PT Barnum says:

      It’s a shame to say it but there’s only one poll that matters and we aren’t allowed to have it.

    • 902
      Agent 99 says:

      CON 42% (+2) LAB 25% (+1) LD 18% (+1)

      YouGov have Tories over 40%, ComRes say not quite
      ITN have announced a new YouGov poll which has the Conservatives increasing their lead over Labour to 17 points, but all major parties gaining slightly at the expense of ‘Others’. This implies that the mistrust of the major parties over expenses at the time of the European elections has largely died away, which won’t be good news for the Greens in Norwich North.

      The ITN story (see link) claims this is the largest Tory lead with YouGov since September 2008, but checking UK Polling Report, this is incorrect: YouGov gave the Conservatives a lead of 17% on 29th May 2009.

      Hat-tip to “Me” for highlighting this YouGov poll.

      UPDATE: ComRes in the Independent on Sunday now released

      CON 38% (+2) LAB 23% (-2) LD 22% (+3)

      SEE POLITICALBETTING.COM

      • 904
        Agent 99 says:

        To avoid confusion

        Hat-tip to “Me” for highlighting this YouGov poll.

        IS Mikes own comment from PB

    • 925

      Boring. There’s still a year to go until the general election.

      Voters have short memories and who knows – a new Tory scandal could swing the vote back to labour at the last minute.

      I am confident that, given the choice, voters will vote for the tried tested experience of Prime Minister Brown and will reject the Old Etonian clique led by Cameron who advised Norman Lamont on Black Wednesday.

      Voters will choose Labour investment over Tory cuts. We are the party of the many. The Tories are the party of the few.

      Labour will provide real help now for hard-working families. The Tories will cut taxes for millionaires, cut public spending by 10% and close schools, railways and hospitals.

      I don’t expect to convince the hard-line Tories on this blog. They will continue to oppose the PM despite all the evidence – that’s fanaticism for you.

      I’m writing this for all the undecided voters. The logical choice is Labour.

      • 934
        jonty mcginger says:

        Hey everybody, Dolly is back.

        Trouble is he’s still shit.

      • 1075
        Trough Mixture says:

        War criminals, incontinents, certifiable lunatics, deviants and thieves. All as ugly as a bucket of guts. Who could resist?

  147. 908
    Agent 99 says:

    Listen to this utter Hoon who is Labour’s new candidate for Reading West, Naz Sarkar. He is totally ripped apart and humiliated in an interview with a BBC local radio presenter

    BBC ffs!….

    http://playpolitical.typepad.com/labour_party/2009/07/labours-new-candidate-for-reading-west-naz-sarkar-is-humiliated-in-an-interview-with-a-bbc-local-rad.html

    Hilarious!!

    Hat tip Conhome

    • 922

      Even heard of Anthony Steen you troll?

      “I have a very very big house”.

      Typical out of touch Tory – living a life of indulgent luxury off the honest toil of the workers.

      • 1108
        shrinking sack of shite says:

        Fook me “pot1 pot1 this is kettle black over”….Grips throat, squeezes hard, and that should stop you wasting oxygen and rations…

    • 933
      PT Barnum says:

      Repeat me after me, denizens of Guido’s libertarian world, DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.

    • 940
      PT Barnum says:

      Apologies for repeating ‘me’ above.

      Just to clarify: on this blog a Troll is anyone who repeats, unthinkingly and uncritically, any party line in order to provoke anger and waste the time and energy of people here, especially those abusive trolls who choose to lump everyone together as nasty Tories even when the evidence contradicts this.

      DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS, at least until Guido can get in here and clean house.

      • 994
        freddie flintoff says:

        eh lad i thought about what you wrote , i hate the spin he says but he has the right to say it in public ( but if guido wants to ban him well its his place lad )

        • 1004
          PT Barnum says:

          Fair point. Mostly I’m thinking about last night’s farce where real nastiness was being let loose to force away people who really want to talk.

          And as for Labour Illogic I’d be less offended if s/he actually used their own words, rather than yet more cut n paste from LabourList.

          To think I used to be a member of the Labour Party. I shudder at what it has become. Idealism and compassion (whatever some of you here may think of those things which may be not a lot) has been replaced by lies, endless interference in people’s private lives, viciousness and manipulation. It sickens me.

        • 1009
          freddie flintoff says:

          eh people are pissed of , people hurting lad , people just want the truth

        • 1079
          Hearts of Oak says:

          My father was a branch secretary of the TGWU in the early sixties. He was a lorry driver. Most of the other drivers were all ex-servicemen from ww2. They had a bond between them that you don’t find in the workplace now. Sure they stood up for themselves, and decent wages for their family’s, but they were not out to wreck the country that they had fought to defend. Most of his union work was taken up with trying to help men who were off sick or injured, or in the worst cases arranging whip rounds for the family’s of men who died, or were killed on the road, a not unusual occurence in those days. He voted Labour, but became disallusioned by the deeply subversive element that infiltrated the party in the 1970’s, which he felt was a world away from striving for fairness, that he stood for. As a proud man he never wanted something for nothing, and as a pragmatic negotiator he knew that strikes and disputes benefitted nobody. All problems could be solved by discussion and common sense, and everyone could get on with what they were there for, which was to earn a living for themselves and their family’s.
          The labour party now does’nt represent working people. It has become a quasi religion for the group who feel that utopia is just a wish away, if we all believe it enough. From the champagne socialists of Blair and Toynbee to the arsonists like Scargill and Hatton, the original purpose of a party for the manual workers has been hijacked and destroyed by chancers, who, while claiming to represent the common man, have no real connection with an average or below average wage earner.
          In the modern world, the old distinction between the working class and those above are not so easily defined. Most people are “workers”, whether they clock on to a shift, or run their own business. The real “Upper classes” are the politicians, banksters, celebs, criminals and other assorted parasites that feed off the backs of people who lead productive and useful lives.
          It’s not just a failure of a labour government, but a failure of a corrupt and decadent political wagon that has been hijacked by a British equivalent of Somali pirates.

  148. 912
    nell says:

    There is a worry tonight in the Treasury that we won’t be able to sell the £200billion debt that gordon has run up. (What a credit card!)

    And darling has ordered a team, deep in the treasury, to carry out a government spending review/investigation into deparrtmental excesses and possible cuts.

    This despite the fact that gordon has issued instructions that the treasury are forbidden to do this.

    It shows, absolutely, that gordon’s power is waning fast.

    • 928
      PT Barnum says:

      Or the only way to get anything sensible done is just to ignore and sidestep him! Given how depressed Darling has been looking during PMQs and how invisible he’s been in the media, it’s amazing and slightly impressive that he has the cojones to do this when Brown obviously believes he is doing both their jobs.

    • 944
      freddie flintoff says:

      eh we fucked , they know we fucked , they knoe that we know we are fucked , and they dont give a fuck

    • 1081
      Gray (Any Mousse) says:

      Nell. I’ve been banging on to my (tory) MP about the looming Gov’t debt crisis for months. At last, I got a reply:

      ‘I know I am up to job but we have a good system where the electorate make that judgement.

      I and many other Conservative MPs are making the point you want us to make. Another Labour Government has run out of money and left the public finances in a disastrous state.’

      The problem is by the time the public can ‘make that judgement’ it will be too late. The GILT market could easily implode this autumn, unless the Gov’t (and opposition) detail spending cuts NOW. Otherwise, the IMF will be here soon, doing the job…

      I have respect for Darling, since he is well aware the credit card has been torn up.

      Love reading your blogs. Keep writing. Bit of a blog fest here over the past couple days (all good fun!!)

      • 1113
        Any Mouse says:

        Forgot to mention, Brown is living in La la land and should be sectioned to the Chamber of Horrors ASAP.

  149. 916
    The Noble Bastiat says:

    will this fucking thing work now? was the link the problem?

  150. 920

    Labour is the only party to vote for if you really care about the environment. The Tories would do nothing to stop global warming and would axe green jobs.

    The Labour Government’s new National Strategy for Climate and Energy sets out a path to a low-carbon economy, making Britain a cleaner, greener and more prosperous place to live.

    By leading the world in low carbon industry, technology and energy, Britain can be reap the benefits – Labour’s plans will see 1.2 million people employed in green jobs by 2015. Labour also plans to make ‘going green’ pay for people – cash back for locally produced green energy, pay-as-you-save home refurbishments and smart energy meters will all help shave hundreds of pounds off bills for green households.

    While Labour is committed to seizing this opportunity, the Tories’ attempts to change their image using green rhetoric and photo opportunities have fallen flat – they routinely oppose new wind power, have flip-flopped on nuclear and opposed the new planning laws brought forward by Labour which will help make new low carbon energy a reality.

    • 924
      tory says:

      Fuck me, I’ve just realised you actually believe this shit don’t you?

      • 927

        Labour has a proven green track record.

        Cameron cycled to work to put on a show for the cameras…but got his briefcase driven behind him by his chauffer.

        What a fraud.

      • 929

        Labour has a proven green track record.

        Cameron cycled to work to put on a show for the cameras…but got his briefcase driven behind him by his chauffeur.

      • 942
        freddie flintoff says:

        eh lad its charles in disguise

        • 1133
          thick as thieves says:

          labour anti-logic and charles hardwidget are just like members of the fucking moonies for fucks sake.
          it’s a bit like the stepford wives with all these new labour war party robots pumping out their masters’ alibis.
          the truth is that the day gordon brown and his assassins and rimmers are booted out on their arses from downing street will be a good day for our democracy.
          never mind losing their jobs, brown and members of his thug regime should be more concerned about facing war crime charges.
          for war crimes committed against our enemies as well as criminal negligence in the supply of helicopters to our troops in Afghanistan which has directly led to the death of British soldiers.

          note to brown: your penny pinching has cost soldiers lives.
          resign now you c’unt.
          you satanist motherfucker you will burn in hell for your sins.

  151. 923
    nell says:

    I want Charles Hardwidge to make sweet love to my asshole!

    • 926
      foggy says:

      Now now nell, this sort of talk got you banned before. I suggest you lay of the Bacardi Breezers for a while.

    • 945
      nell says:

      Imposter.

      • 953
        nell says:

        No, you’re an imposter! Guido, come back of your hols and ban him/her!!!!

        • 955
          nell (the real one) says:

          Just hold you head still whilst I borrow freddie’s cricket bat and hit you round the ear – you useless troll

        • 961
          freddie flintoff says:

          eh up need a bat ?

        • 964
          nell (the real one) says:

          Yes please freddie!

          Would you do the honours and hit him for a six?

        • 966
          nell says:

          You’re the troll, why don’t you go away? You’re pathetic. Guido unmod me please! I want to tell this troll exactly what I think of him/her!

        • 967
          freddie flintoff says:

          no worries lass , step aside

        • 971
          nell (the real one) says:

          You’re all imposters, I’m the real nell! ignore them freddie, theyre lying labour hoons!!

        • 972
          freddie flintoff says:

          now i am confused

      • 982
        nell says:

        Quite freddie .

        Don’t worry about it .

        Guido hopefully will erase the trolls tomorrow.

        Someone said on here that he can identify us by our IP addresses. Mine is constant. Like you I nnow who I am.

    • 987
      nell says:

      Why are you so unsure of yourself that you can’t post your opinions under your own identity?

      I think perhaps a psychologist could help you.

      I suspect that you are six former – just being annoying.

      And I think I hear your mother saying it is time for bed.

      • 988
        freddie flintoff says:

        eh up thats strong i was sticking up for you

        • 998
          PT Barnum says:

          Fred, whichever nell that is she ain’t talking to you but to the imposter or the real nell.

          You carry on being chivalrous!

        • 1000
          freddie flintoff says:

          eh getting used to this , not first class yet

      • 1036
        nell says:

        956 freddie – I was posting that to the imposter! – not to you!! – thank’s for sticking up for me.!!!

        Chivalry and cricket – they go together! Well as long as we’re not talking about the Ashes!!

  152. 930

    Voters have short memories and who knows – a new Tory scandal could swing the vote back to labour at the last minute.

    I am confident that, given the choice, voters will vote for the tried tested experience of Prime Minister Brown and will reject the Old Etonian clique led by Cameron who advised Norman Lamont on Black Wednesday.

    Voters will choose Labour investment over Tory cuts. We are the party of the many. The Tories are the party of the few.

    Labour will provide real help now for hard-working families. The Tories will cut taxes for millionaires, cut public spending by 10% and close schools, railways and hospitals.

    I don’t expect to convince the hard-line Tories on this blog. They will continue to oppose the PM despite all the evidence – that’s fanaticism for you.

    I’m writing this for all the undecided voters. The logical choice is Labour.Voters have short memories and who knows – a new Tory scandal could swing the vote back to labour at the last minute.

    I am confident that, given the choice, voters will vote for the tried tested experience of Prime Minister Brown and will reject the Old Etonian clique led by Cameron who advised Norman Lamont on Black Wednesday.

    Voters will choose Labour investment over Tory cuts. We are the party of the many. The Tories are the party of the few.

    Labour will provide real help now for hard-working families. The Tories will cut taxes for millionaires, cut public spending by 10% and close schools, railways and hospitals.

    I don’t expect to convince the hard-line Tories on this blog. They will continue to oppose the PM despite all the evidence – that’s fanaticism for you.

    I’m writing this for all the undecided voters. The logical choice is Labour.

    • 936
      freddie flintoff says:

      you got some fucked up logic lad

    • 937
      cadwallader says:

      Dream on.

    • 939
      freddie flintoff says:

      the best choice would be to fuck off to labour lost and do one over there lad

    • 941
      freddie flintoff says:

      o/t do they still make fanta ?

    • 943
      PT Barnum says:

      DO NOT FEED THE EFFING TROLL!

      • 946
        freddie flintoff says:

        eh lad if he in text bigger hoon labour look

      • 952
        PT Barnum says:

        Ah gotcha!

        It’s more like attempted brainwashing since he repeats the same paragraphs, as if the second or third time it will become convincing. Shame for him that folk here think for themselves.

        • 954
          freddie flintoff says:

          apart from trolls most people argue there case and its good lad , the trolls are for comedy effect

        • 962
          Engineer says:

          Call that comedy Fred? Ponting’s face when he dropped that catch – now that’s comedy….

        • 963
          freddie flintoff says:

          and the missed run out what a picture lad

        • 975
          Engineer says:

          Have you spiked KP’s tea? He’s right off form at present, but Colly and Matt Prior – I really enjoyed that.

          I’m out tomorrow so will miss the commentary, but stuff it right up ‘em. Radio comms reckoned you got one down at 94mph in Cardiff – a few of those and you’ve got ‘em worried.

        • 978
          freddie flintoff says:

          eh lad clocked a few quicker than that kp got a niggle lad

    • 957

      Good comment. I liked that.

    • 1057
      caesars wife says:

      your introuble because logic and systems are not the end , use NLP bollocks all you like !! it doesnt make the logic of the debts Labour have created go away .

      almost draper esque . note northern voices on commitees didnt get oxygen.

      the logic is the labour party is uanble to tell the truth .

    • 1163
      Undecided voter says:

      Brown has mortgaged our grandchildren FFS and stolen the next government’s pot to prop up our walking disaster of an economy created by him.
      Fcuk off back to Labour list and tell someone who gives a toss or are they giving you a hard time as well?

  153. 956

    Just when things are calming down and the press are being positive Cameron opens his mouth and runs people down. Put next to Osborne’s nastiness and incompetence this looks a little deliberate and suggests to me that the Tories would rather talk Britain into a recession and fuel hysteria than focus on fixing things. But, what else can people expect from a nasty and directionless party like the Tories? No wonder sensible leaders and the media are deserting them.

    Be still, grasshopper.

  154. 965
    Anonymous says:

    New Telephone Greeting:
    Wouldn’t it be amazing, if this caught on….

    all over the country…?

    ‘GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED KINGDOM ‘

    ‘Press ‘1′ if you speak English.’
    ‘Press ”2” to disconnect until you can

  155. 969
    nell (the real one) says:

    mmm, I desperately want Hardwidge to bugger me senseless while I slurp on Draper’s weener

  156. 973
    nell (the real one) says:

    James p*rn*ll said tonight that he had been thinking of fleeing the sinking Labour ship since December 2008 -because he knew by then that gordon couldn’t win an election.

    Well what a self serving person he is!!

    He said brown couldn’t “match ‘bliars’ Britpop appeal” and that labour needs to “recapture that idealistic approach”.

    Oh Dear James – you have really lost the plot.

    • 974
      freddie flintoff says:

      hes the next shaun woodwood

    • 1008
      Engineer says:

      There seems to be a lot of ‘changing sides’ going on at the moment – two Lib Dems joined the Conservatives a couple of days ago. I suppose it’s a facet of human nature that some politicians are attracted to success and power, but it gives you doubts about their sincerity. Not altogether sure I’d trust politicians that appeared to be sucking up to the potentially successful. Rather have people who stuck to their principles, even if I didn’t agree with them.

      Voting is a different matter. We (the ordinary non-politicians) should vote for the party that we believe offers the best solutions to the problems of the day.

      • 1011
        freddie flintoff says:

        if the facts change i change or some twaddle like that

      • 1017
        nell says:

        John Berc*w has made a shrewd move hasn’t he by ‘winning’ the speaker’s job??

        He has now become ‘neutral’ and his constituency seat in now uncontested in EVERY General Election until he deides to retire.

        He can continue, ad nauseum, to trough for as long as he wants!!!!

        • 1018
          freddie flintoff says:

          he is another one that needs a shotgun up his arse

        • 1022
          PT Barnum says:

          I think all bets are off on the ‘uncontested’ part. The main parties won’t put anyone up, but there will be others who would stand that could make it entertaining. He’s got a 10,000 majority in Buckingham but any candidate who stokes up the expenses stuff will attract support. I hope.

        • 1023
          freddie flintoff says:

          i wanted field , kate hoey or bill cash

        • 1030
          Engineer says:

          See what mean, Fred, but Frank Field and Kate Hoey have a lot of good things to say on finding solutions to big problems (Field on the pensions problem, for example). If they are still free to speak from the back benches, they could contribute much. If any of them had got the speaker’s job (and any of them would have made good speakers) it would have gagged them from making their contributions.

          On balance, I’m glad Field and Hoey are still free to speak.

        • 1034
          nell says:

          I want to see field and kay hoey re-elected next time around. We need good caring honest mp’s in the opposition as well as on the winning side.

          Unfortuateoy apart from these two Labour doesn’t have many honest decent caring mp’s.

        • 1037
          Engineer says:

          My two local MPs are Labour. One seems reasonable (if unspectacular), the other is just pure lobby fodder. Blindly follows the government on everything. In the constituency, would attend the opening of anything (even a biscuit tin) to get a picture in the local paper, but otherwise seems to do nothing, or goes whichever way the wind blows. Will be no loss come the GE.

          Field and Hoey are among the best MPs in the house, of any party.

        • 1064
          Hearts of Oak says:

          Hague is probably the best speaker. You’d buy tickets to hear him. In a time of desperation, the tories picked him as leader 10 years too soon. He was’nt ready, but of course in politics desperation is a great motivating factor. Labour choosing Foot being a prime example. Ke

        • 1071
          Pluperfect Subjunctive says:

          It was not just a matter of Hague being not ready, he was also not right. He himself was amongst the first to recognise this. Hague is very bright, a more than competent manager and an exceptional orator. Of all Tory leaders he is the one I would most like to invite to a dinner party. His charm is his detached warmth and he is a perfect satirist. However it is this satirical and detached quality that didn’t connect with voters. Sure we laughed with him. But we didn’t believe he was a conviction politician. When Cameron genuinely lost his temper at the despatch box over Haringey social services and Baby P he proved his mettle as an electable leader. It is not something I can imagine Hague doing. Hague is perfect as Deputy to Cameron. Let’s leave him there and continue to love him.

        • 1082
          Hearts of Oak says:

          Some of the most memorable and destructive speeches in the House have been delivered with wit and humour. Even Michael Foot in his younger days had the house in his palm with devastating critiques of his opponents policy. Geoffrey Howe famously tried to “savage” his target, only for it to backfire on him. In the case of baby P, Cameron has real experience of childrens health, so it’s understandable that he would be passionate about the subject, but he does’nt really seem to exude the same anger when dealing with Brown over the despatch box at PMQ’s. The one thing Brown can’t stand is ridicule, as seen in his discomfort during Hannan’s Brussels attack. Hague would make him look like the prick he is with an “emperors new clothes” undressing delivered with gales of laughter from both sides.

    • 1062
      caesars wife says:

      Purnells timing is pure “house of cards” , he is free to rise to the top , mandelson may make retrun to the commons if the lords reform legislation is past .

      its a bit of positioning if Norwich North confirms what most of the country is feeling

      I dont know if its true but I hear Broon has issued orders that each department must come up with two iniatives a week , funny really as the obvious best iniative that he should resign and call that general election is staring him in the face .

  157. 992
    UPSY DAISY says:

    Upsydaisy Song
    Upsy Daisy here I come,
    I’m the only Upsy one!
    I’m the only Daisy too,
    Ipsy, Upsy, Daisy Doo

    • 1016
      Engineer says:

      Well, that’s certainly deep comment on the problems of the day!

      How do think we can solve the problem of 5.4 million unemployed? Get them all making kiddie’s animated films? Not too sure that’s going to work, myself….

      • 1019
        freddie flintoff says:

        eh its speodo shorts lad

        • 1026
          Engineer says:

          Oh no, not him again…

          Shotgun handy, Fred?

          On second thoughts, he’s a waste of a decent cartridge. Pin him down in front of the heavy roller….but obviously, not inside the boundary rope.

        • 1028
          freddie flintoff says:

          and waste the lords pitch , that aint cricket lad

    • 1167
      cadwallader says:

      Daisy, what are you wearing today?

  158. 996
    MAKKA PAKKA says:

    Makka Pakka,
    Akka Wakka,
    Mikka Makka moo!

    Makka Pakka,
    Appa yakka,
    Ikka akka, ooo

    Hum dum,
    Agga pang,
    Ing, ang, ooo

    Makka Pakka,
    Akka wakka,
    Mikka Makka moo

  159. 1003
    MAKKA PAKKA says:

    MAKKA PAKKA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  160. 1010
    nell says:

    I see TrollBasher said on here at 8.41pm last night 17/7 that:
    spaedo=tat

    I’m sorry TB I must disagree – spaedo is quite corrosive and clearly decaying labour –

    tat is abrasive and an independent. And some of tat’s comments I can agree with in an abstract sort of way.

    They are not the same person.

    • 1025
      PT Barnum says:

      Agreed. S-paedo is a vicious little vandal bent on driving people away from here. TaT is obnoxious but give credit for the creativity of his splenetic outbursts. And from time to time he gets it right.

  161. 1014
    BBC LICENSE FEE DODGER says:

    ALAN YENTOB ATE MY DOG,HE DICED IT, AND HE SLICED IT, HE PUT IT IN A WOK, THEN ATE IT’S HAIRY COCK, FACKING ALAN YENTOB ATE MY DOG

  162. 1031
    nell says:

    The DT (Janet) is saying tonight that gordon’s centre of gravity has moved towards the ‘ideals’ of big state, centralist govt and high spend.

    The DT has completely lost touch – gordon has always represented those rubbish goals.

    I’ve just purchased a book titled ‘Gordon is a Moron’ about his years as chancellor.

    It says everything that is to be said about this ‘man’.

    • 1039
      Engineer says:

      What I can’t understand is that everyone else – even quite a lot of his own cabinet if rumours are to be believed – disagrees with Gordoom. But still he blunders on. Why on earth can’t he listen? I hated Bliar, and intensely disliked much that he did, but even he listened occasionally.

    • 1085
      Roy "chubby" Brown (no relation) says:

      Gordon went to the doctors. The doctor said “I’d like a stool,urine and semen sample”.
      Gordon was in a hurry, so he left him his underpants.

  163. 1033
    Want To Become An Expat says:

    Anyone know any cheap places in the world worthwhile living in where whores and liqour are plentiful and cheap commodities

    • 1035
      nell says:

      As a troll you might find Afghanistan on the plains – between the British Army and the ‘insurgents’ – with your head above the parapet – a useful place.

      • 1038
        Want To Become An Expat says:

        I aint a troll i’m being serious, i’ve got some dough sitting waiting till the exchange rate picks up and heads to nearly double on the Euro and Dollar which will probably take years now lol but anyway once that happens, i’m cashing the lot in and bogging off.

        Any serious suggestions welcomed though just thought i’d try Guido Airways and Tourism forum for advice, I’m afraid i’ll have to pass on Afghanistan i like my head being firmly attached on my shoulders thanks.

        • 1041
          Engineer says:

          I’m sticking with it. I hate what has been done to this country, and it wasn’t done in my name, but the solutions to the problems won’t happen if people give up, slink off, and leave others to sort out the mess. I know it’s going to be tough, but I want to be part of the solution, if only so the next generation has got something worthwhile to inherit.

          I’m doing it by making things and selling them. It isn’t easy, but it’s got to be done.

          Don’t bail out. Be part of the solution. Ultimately, you’ll have more pride in yourself if you contribute. You’ll always feel a bit of a coward when Britain blossoms again, and you where not part of it.

        • 1043
          PT Barnum says:

          Well, I’d say New Zealand if you have real skills. Lower wages but living is cheaper there and it is the most beautiful country on earth. You mustn’t be allergic to sheep tho’.

          But actually Engineer is right. Do we really want to leave and ask the last (employable, skilled) person to turn out the lights?

          I try to console myself that this ethical, economic and social shambles we see around us is only temporary and that somehow the best of Britain will survive and recover.

          But then some days I can’t convince myself.

    • 1044
      Small bear says:

      To Expat. at 1000. I will be moving to Belgium in a few years.It is cheap, close to the U.K. convenient for the Netherlands France and Germany and has a good standard of living as well as good welfare,heathcare and education systems.Not only that I speak Flemish( Dutch ) and there is no shortage of top totty.

      • 1052
        Hearts of Oak says:

        Well fuck off then and don’t come back.
        Cnuts like you we can do without. Backbone made of jelly, and an i’m all right jack attitude. Why don’t you piss off to North Korea, where you can buy a thirteen year old for ten dollars. Should be a meeting of minds for you.

      • 1157
        Sprout says:

        Think you missed the boat, Small Bear! Every thinking Belgian I know is planning to get out asap. One elderly man in Brussels told me: “I have to leave, I’m too old to learn Arabic.” Preferred destinations: USA, New Zealand, Israel.

        • 1407
          JJ says:

          Panama is a top place to retire to IMHO. They actually seem to want people like us to come there. Not like this country where we are just a despised cash cow.

  164. 1042
    nell says:

    Bob ‘not up to the job’ has publicly, tonight, written to his 4 underlings – (jones-davies-drayson-ramell ) telling them to stop trying to smear General Sir Richard Dann*ett because the publicity of their attempts to
    character-assassinate him are actually damaging gordon and labour.

    And then what does bob do???? He is still trying to run an undercover smear campaign against this hero General who is willing to sacrifice his good name to get the equipment that he needs to keep his troops alive. That I think is Courage.

    Right . I’m off to bed. Good Night . God Bless.

    If anyone posts in my name between now and morning they are trolls.

  165. 1046
    Anonymous says:

    A tad off topic
    just came across this utube entry

    is this correct?????? keep going until 1 min 14secs.

    thats some superb photoshop (I really hope?)

  166. 1059
    Elmarco says:

    Surely to god the Brown terror’s agenda is now clear for all to see – Horrible Harriet’s antics and all the other crazy Labour stunts can have only one objective – Labour want/need to throw the next election.

    Once again they need the Conservatives in to

    1. Clear up their economic mess.
    2. To Dispense the required very bitter medicine.
    3. As with St. Maggie last time – to have a hate figure to scare the children and create another group of brainless tribal Labour voters.
    4. Their agenda is a socialist Europe but even that bunch of professional troughers will not have us until we are capable of giving them lots of our taxpayer’s money.

    In the meantime they seek to torment us with crazy stunts such as this!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200633/5m-motorists-crime-victim-compensation-slashed.html

    • 1068
      Anonymous says:

      agreed my friend 100%

      done this twice around now…. the proles never ever learn I thought they might have but…no.

  167. 1066
    Anonymous says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KonFRhqbj2I&feature=related

    see the photo of the guy as the pane hits…he is above the plane (or was)

  168. 1073
    c h o c o l o t i s says:

    who gives a shit, champagne and quality pork pie makes a rather pleasant evening

  169. 1084
    The rollicking adventures of young Harwidge says:

    Chapter 1 : Skools out for ever

    As July of 1975 approached , I was getting ready for horizons new , I was off to Cambridge to study Law and Classical art , at that time Michael Foot was at his pinnacle and with him no doubt we were about to have , a cultural revolution that would at last dissolve the flawed evil rule of capitalism . So it was with sadness that I left my youthfull seaside of home of Bognor Regis and it grammer school where my parents had afforded me a good eduaction and I moved to the fenlands of Cambridge .

    My dorm was a rather spartan affair in bedsit land , there was the ubiquitous stern landlady , and house rules , no guests after 9:30 , no unattended women , door locked at 12 , breakfast at 8am prompt . But I felt full of vigour as though destiny had borught me to this obersvational outpost .
    we were to have an excellent Classical Art tutor in the name of one Anthony Blunt , who was an expert in Russian impressionism , whom i was told was always on the look out for people who wanted to challenge the old order and often met with foreign dignitaries and arranged cultural exchange visits .

    my bedsit co lodger across the landing was a chap called Andrew Mitchell who was studying history , nice chap, terribly public school though and far too establishment for my liking , we said our hellos . I began unpacking my stash of books I had brouught and put up my picture of Nakita Christeov , who had done so much to liberate the pesants in Russia and had put the wind up the corrupt Kennedeys , as he sought to bring new wealth and order to Cuba . I polished my bronze bust of Chev , hoping that one day i would heralding in the unstaoppable beauty of perfect socialism and liberating britain from its chains of ignorance.

    Freshers day was as ever chaotic , there was the beer club, the ski club but i found myself in excitement that they had a young socialists group , they wore groovey clothes and one was still wearing his stop the war t shirt . I paid my £1 and got a labour party pin badge , its enamel red flag glinting in the sunlight . I happend to look across and there was public school chap Mitchell joining the conservatives , typical really he knew no better and I wondered how I might be able to draw him into debate and turn him to socialism . I joined the wine group which had champagne evenings occasionally and the debating society .

    the library was excellent with plenty of translated foreign books , including the thoughts of chairman mao . I met some of my fellow course class mates who were quite an assortment, one of them was already an acomplished artist . I couldnt paint for toffee but I always said I choose this course so I could sue anyone i didnt like , so much more grown up than having a beasting in bognor grammer toilets because i was the only 7th former who liked David Bowie.

    There was some top girls there though strangely none on my course , they all seemd to be studiying English , no doubt i would get a date , punting on the cam espousing my love of das capital as we glided along .

    • 1110
      thick as thieves says:

      far too long and boring.
      this place is not some amphetamine freaks’ hang out joint you know.
      didn’t you see the sign?
      “no crackheads, no speedfreaks and no crackerjack motherfuckers like you”
      thankyou and goodbye.

  170. 1087
    Canary Wharf Rat says:

    Just logged on to watch the 5 am news on the bbc. Lead story……. Honduras!!
    What the fuck are they about? also promised….. news from Tennessee.
    Somebody shoot these fuckers please.

  171. 1089
    The last gasps of a dying govt says:

    Just watching PMQ’s from last Wednesday – a slow motion plane crash on the screen.

    The dying embers of a failed Labour experiment in ruining a country.

    Brown building himself into a temper tantrum all by himself – now in the middle of a deep mental breakdown.

    The most ordinary bunch of nonentities on the front bench that has ever been witnessed.

    In the name of God and the people of Britain – leave and leave now,do not come back.

    • 1189
      barefootcontessa says:

      The front bench aren’t short of expensive suits, self righteous expressions, nodding body parts, and orange skin, are they?

    • 1321
      Court of Pubic Opinion says:

      The Labour front bench aren’t much better either.

  172. 1090
    The last gasps of a dying govt says:

    Now watching Brown in front of the Select Committees last Thursday.

    His body language is revealing – being ripped apart by McCall (Labour) and he is already banging the table and his head moving more aggressively.Hands in the steeple position.
    Being in the middle of a mental breakdown,without the support of his minions at the table,he is all bluster and bullshit.
    “Not my fault – it’s all global and nothing to do with me”
    I am expecting two men in white coats to appear behind him,hoist him up and insert a needle in his neck,before carrying him off to a grave behind Downing St.
    For gods sake,stop paying this fucker any respect and shoot him.

    • 1096
      freddie flintoff says:

      when the fat scot grows some balls and calls a election the people will have there say lad

  173. 1092
    Scallywag says:

    5.4 million unemployed? No it can’t be true…

    I’m sure that I’ve heard that wonderfully warm, caring sub-prime mentalist, Snottie McTwat, repeat time and time again that he has personally created 10,000,000 real jobs in the past 4 weeks, that 65,000,000 children have been lifted out of poverty since Tuesday, that the nationalised banks are behaving themselves and handing out mortgages like confetti at a tart’s wedding, that hundreds of thousands of small businesses have been save from bankruptcy by his personal intervention, that he saved the world and that the UK is best placed to survive the Brown/Bush created financial meltdown because it is in more debt than any other country on the planet.

    5.4 million unemployed? No it can’t be true…

  174. 1095
    mitch says:

    Mangled rectum on snotty

    “You know from the way he has been brought up. It is a bit like me in a way. You don’t show emotions in public. I think we may come from similar backgrounds, similar maternal influences.”

    Poofter alert gordon please step away from the closet!

    • 1191
      barefootcontessa says:

      Watch him carefully. His walking, his mannerisms, his expressions, and you’ll see his hiding something. His wife is desperately trying to ‘justify’ his image.

  175. 1098
    Ratsniffer says:

    Isn’t there a Deputy Guido who can sort out the threads while the boss is away?

  176. 1100
    The Tutor says:

    Spaedo Sh­itz = fick as feeves

    • 1101
      freddie flintoff says:

      no lad thick as thievs argues his case in a aggreisive way but has a point , speodeo just a hoon

      • 1132
        The Tutor says:

        He gets into the character of the respective parts he plays. No point having another identity without changing the personality.

  177. 1103

    Come on Guido, put down the Ricard and the boule, stub out the Gitane and get another post up fer gawds sake.

    • 1104
      freddie flintoff says:

      was there a by-election anywhere lad ?

      • 1193
        barefootcontessa says:

        From personal experience, I know it’s possible to get internet connection from France!

        • 1330
          Anon says:

          Around 40 years ago you could talk to people on the moon and they’d reply. Try that now.

  178. 1109
    PT Barnum says:

    Don’t panic. It’s a spoof, not a troll product.

    This sums up perfectly my feelings about NewLabour. Pay special attention to the details of the graphics.

    • 1116
      nell says:

      Yes. Says everything.

      gordon and the nanny state.

      • 1130
        The Tutor says:

        “nanny” state doesn’t reflect the image of the monstrous totalitarian regime they have created. Nanny state sounds quaint.

        • 1141
          nell says:

          Well you are right – it started out as a nanny state with blair – but it has morphed into an Orwellian Big-Brother conspiracy now.

          I think brown’s government is going down in history as the most hated, despised, controlling and incompetent government of all time.

        • 1194
          barefootcontessa says:

          Margaret Thatcher’s government takes some beating! I agree about the present shower.

        • 1413
          Observer says:

          Yeah, there’s something caring implied in the term ‘nanny-state’ so it clearly doesn’t apply to Britain under Nu Labour. Probably it was Blair (old demon eyes) himself that coined the term as a diversion to hide his true intentions.
          Liked the film, though! The point about the obnoxious Town Hall Nazis was especially well made. I’d like to see more of this kind of spoof PPB.

    • 1129
      Sméagol says:

      Nasty little NuLabs. We hates it. We wants to take them to……her!

      • 1138
        nell says:

        Hoppit hobbit aka troll

      • 1150
        Trough Mixture says:

        Then nell, you cannot chastise my little creature for being upset at the activities of New Labour. He hatesses them.

        • 1216
          nell says:

          Apologies if I misjudged the comment – you will appreciate I have been under attack for a day or two on here – perhaps I was a little rash in my judgement.

          I certainly wouldn’t want you to lock away someone who was anti-labour.

        • 1267
          Trough Mixture says:

          No apologies are necessary sweet nell – I am sorry if you thought the comment was directed at you. I can see that some very ungentlemanly behaviour has taken place and know from experience that to be at the epicentre can be a daunting experience. That, I’m afraid, is NuLab all over.

        • 1296
          nell says:

          1225 – it’s called Smearing – Labour aka damian / derek/ charlie/ edb/ mandy / think they are masters of it, and that they are going to win back public opinion to labour by suggesting anyone who speaks against them is dirty.

          They don’t understand that the shifting sand of public opinion has drained away from their vitriol.

    • 1131
      An Aussie says:

      This is one real SAD video – watched it twice, once the message sunk in. I don’t normally advocate violence, but the time is fast approaching.

    • 1137
      PT Barnum says:

      Ok, another spoof from the same stable, patchy quality of satire but some great (chilling) moments.

      And yes, ‘nanny’ is a weasel word for this government’s authoritarianism, but I think that ‘nanny’ is how it feels to a quarter of the electorate, being taken care and, if you behave nicely, absolved of all self-responsibility.

      • 1146
        nell says:

        It is chilling. But what’s even more chilling when I look back is that , although I didn’t vote for him, I was fooled by this man and thought he might be good for Britain.

        What utter vandalism he wreaked and then passed the baton on to brown to carry on the destruction.

        • 1198
          barefootcontessa says:

          He fooled everybody because he appeared to be the ‘nice’ boy next door. He fooled the labour party, he was never labour. New labour was invented by a small group of self serving scheming politicians. It is the same 12 years later, only the actors have changed.

          The message has been lost, watered down, forgotten. New labour is interested only in preserving itself and it’s own, and at the same time continues to sell itself as essential for the ‘good’ of the people!

          New labour is one big lie, incompetent, authoritarian, and lacking any principles that would associate it with decency, or goodness. And the fact is, that we all know it. but they are supremely unaware, or are they?!
          Blair has to hide himself behind the cloak of god. He looks guilty! and he is.

        • 1211
          nell says:

          Barefoot Contessa – bliar is guilty of so much – He is certainly guilty of, if not the death of Dr David Kelly, then covering up the truth about that death.

          And he is guilty for lying to us about wmd and 45 minutes in order to take us into an unnecessary war in Iraq. Given our casualities how could we ever forgive him for that?

          And like brown he tries to ram his phoney’religious’ beliefs down our throats in the hope that we will think them good men.

          We so need to get rid of this rotting Labour government..

  179. 1111
    I never briefed that darling was for the chop, Tom Bradby, I'm honest Gordon says:

    LABOUR PISSING OFF BUSINESS PEOPLE SO THEY MOVE ABROOAD AND TAKE THEIR JOBS WITH THEM.

    LABOUR IMPORTING PEOPLE TO TAKE ANY JOB

    IS IT ANY WONDER WHY YOU CAN’T FIND A JOB AND THE UNEMPLOYMNET IS OVER 3M

    LAOUR BANKRUPTED US IN THE SEVENTIES AND DOING THE SAME NOW

  180. 1114
    nell says:

    Yesterday the news that one of our few chinooks in Helmand has been cannibalised from parts left by the Argentines on the Falklands.

    Now news that we are so short of helicopters that we are having to borrow them from the Russians together with freelance Russian and Ukrainian pilots.

    Everything gordon touches comes to grief but I do hope he clings on to power until the General Election. I want to see him, just for once, face reality and the judgement of the electorate. It won’t be pretty.

    Morning Folks – I see we are now on French time.

    • 1123
      nell says:

      I’ve just read that gordon requested to visit Helmand last week – no doubt he was after a photo opportunity to boost his dying image.

      Officers on the battlefield told him No – he wasn’t wanted and his visit would only lead to a diversion of those few and valuable chinooks so placing men on the ground at even greater risk.

      THe Army should resist him going out there at all costs given the curse that he seems to carry.

      • 1135
        nell says:

        Well you’re right PT but I don’t think this present government is capable of lateral or logical thinking or even thinking at all.

        Look at how they are just staggering from one crisis to the next

        Look at their pathetic response to the swine flu – stay at home – lock your doors and don’t come out until it’s over. How are people supposed to earn a living?

        How about them jiffying up that vaccine they keep talking about but not producing.

    • 1127
      PT Barnum says:

      Meanwhile the DT carries the story about convicted terrorist aiders-and-abetters being released to bail hostels even where they are regarded as being ‘high risk’.

      So I’ll say it again. We are fighting the wrong war in the wrong place. The threat is right here right now and the government grandstands on fighting Alky Ada to keep them off the streets of Britain.

      • 1200
        barefootcontessa says:

        New labour are responsible for terrorism here and in Afghanistan/Pakistan. They took us to war v Iraq, illegally. Failing governments always try to jack up their popularity by exaggerating the seriousness of their enemies.

        • 1206
          barefootcontessa says:

          Previous comment moderated. Let’s try again. Unpopular governments always try to boost their popularity by exaggerating the power of their enemies. New labour are themselves responsible for the country’s present enemies.

          • But they can’t be arsed to fund vaccines for Hepatitis C, for goodness sake!
            Government slated over hepatitis C failure

            And they charge £60 for the shots…

          • valleys bhoyo says:

            Correct and especially used by Marxists/Stalinists governments. Kinnock vanquished the Marxist/Stalinists from Labour, but they have grown in power nad influence below the radar in the cabinet, as NuLab advisrs and employed in the quangos. UK gulag is less than a generation away.

          • valleys bhoyo says:

            which is what communists/marxist governemnets ahve always done. Kinnock vanquishded the marxixts/stalinist from Labour, but only succeeding in driving them below the voter’s radar, allowing Bliar/ Mandy to fooll them with NuLabour. The Stalinist/Marxists have actually increased ther power in NuLabour, covertly in cabinet,in quangos and as advisers. The UK gulag is less than a generation away.

    • 1307
      Agent 99 says:

      http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090719/twl-civilian-helicopter-crashes-in-afgha-41f21e0.html

      When the cursed one makes it go wrong it really goes wrong

  181. 1120
    Trough Mixture says:

    That filthy piece of plasticene Peter Goldsmith is on the Boulton Show. He should have his ‘nads nailed to the set and be prevented from leaving until he explains his CIA assisted Damascene conversion. He should be in custody until this is eventually done.

  182. 1121
    che guevara says:

    i love nu labour

  183. 1122
    im labour i hate winners says:

    freddie will you get in a taxi to lords we are on in 15 minutes.

  184. 1125
    nell says:

    Where are you Gweeeeeeeeeedo?

    Missing you already x

    • 1126
      Ewanme says:

      Both

      x .

      • 1252
        Ewanonymous says:

        LOL !!!

        You’d never catch the real Ewa up that fuckin early , hun x .

        E x .

    • 1134
      nell says:

      You are not the real nell. You are a troll probably by the name of s p*a e d * o

      • 1139
        nell (the real one) says:

        I am too.

        • 1147
          nell says:

          Have you ever thought s p a e d o about posting under a sensible name of your own and making sensible political comment – or are you not capable of that?

        • 1186
          nell says:

          Go away s p a e d o

          I am posting under my real name Guido.

        • 1201
          nell says:

          1146 you are an imposter .

          I presume you are a young man – obviously ill-disciplined, possibly unemployed.

          My suggestion is that you should join the army – they need 2000 more men in Helmand. Army discipline would be good for you and you would learn about team work and supporting your mates and above all reality.

        • 1213
          Angry Voter says:

          And you are predictably boring.

  185. 1151
    Rant against the Machine says:

    Is there any truth in the rumour that Labours General Election slogan will be ”

    “Vote Labour and keep Britain a land fit for Fuckwits ! “

    • 1152
      PT Barnum says:

      No, because it’s actually ‘a land fit for sheep herded by fuckwits’.

    • 1160
      Gooey Blob says:

      If Mandelson has anything to do with it, there will be little truth in Labour’s election slogan.

      • 1416
        Observer says:

        How about: “It’s the right thing to do.” – Mandy used it several times on Sky yesterday, as have other Nu Labour shit-heads. They’re such moral people!

        “It’s the right thing to do.”
        “It’s the right thing to do.”
        “It’s the right thing to do.”
        “It’s the right thing to do.”
        “It’s the right thing to do.”
        “It’s the right thing to do.”
        “It’s the right thing to do.”
        “It’s the right thing to do.”
        “It’s the right thing to do.”
        “It’s the right thing to do.”
        “It’s the right thing to do.”
        “It’s the right thing to do.”
        “It’s the right thing to do.”
        “It’s the right thing to do.”

        I’m starting to believe in it already!

  186. 1155
    nell says:

    The DT as somehow obtained gordon’s latest expense claims which are due to be published later this year and highlighted where they will be redacted before publication.

    They show he claimed £500 for decorating his scottish summer house. Once redacted the expenses will only show ‘paint and and decoration’ – could be for the bandstand on the village green because there will be no address.

    The expenses also show that he spent more than £3000 in 2008 on items such as an Ikea kitchen, gas hob, oven, dishwasher, refrigerator and on and on…….none of these items will appear when the redacted accounts are published.

    What was it gordon said at the height of the expenses scandal ‘I understand that people want us to be more transparent and we will.’ Lying toerag.

    • 1172
      IKEA IS queuing hell says:

      Bet the bastard didn’t have to queue for his fucking kitchen at IKEA.

    • 1207
      barefootcontessa says:

      He has to keep his ‘home loving’ wife happy

      • 1219
        nell says:

        Strange she can’t even iron shirts! He has to claim from the taxpayer for someone to do it for him!

    • 1221
      streamfisher says:

      “They show he claimed £500 for decorating his scottish summer house”. Sounds like a Dacha to me, then again it could be thought of as Broonlair, (after Adolf’s retreat in Bavaria) instead of Wagner and Alsations we get the Kirk and the Arctic Monkeys, the compass swings wildly between a Stalinist and Stasi state and a Fascist regime which cannot even make the trains run on time.

    • 1417
      Observer says:

      I still don’t understand how these kunts have been able to claim for the most outrageous stuff that’s fuck-all to do with being necessary to do their so-called ‘jobs’ and nothing’s ever done about it. If we did that our feet wouldn’t touch the ground.
      Obviously being a Nu Labour kleptocrat means being above the law. It’s stealing and they’re just common criminals and no better than benefit cheats. Scum.

  187. 1158
    Lord KDE says:

    Wibble wibble wibble

    Ba chewwy chewwy ching ching is what he really means

  188. 1159
    Hugh Janus says:

    I know this is o/t Guido but I have just read something which, if true, says all we need to know about the state of this country under NuLiebour. It is both chilling and sickening. This is not the country in which I grew up and which was once the envy of the world; it is now a grubby, third-rate Stasi state.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/5858902/Evil-destruction-of-a-happy-family.html?state=target#postacomment&postingId=5863829

    • 1164
      nell says:

      Yes it is very shocking and until the law that makes family courts a secret place is lifted then more tragedy like this is going to happen.

      That secrecy gives power to unscrupulous social workers, courts and police – whose only aim is to continually expand their power base at the expense of the innocent.

      The days are gone when people went to work in the public sector because they believed in public service. Labour has destroyed that ethos – and nothing proves it more than this shocking case.

      I hope changing the law and opening family courts up to public scrutiny will be one of the first things the Conservative government does next year.

    • 1176
      Anonymous says:

      Absolutely chilling.

    • 1422
      Abolish the Licence Fee says:

      Yes, well if you want to avoid this kind of unpleasantness, just remember to teach your kids that everyone is equal, immigration is good, being constantly watched over by spy cameras is for their own safety, the world is warming due to rich countries’ carbon emissions, the government knows best and the BBC is an impartial, unbiased source of news reportage.

  189. 1162
    Ever Vigilant says:

    John Hutton now claims that,far from Gordon being unsiutable as a Prime Minister, he is actually the best man for the job based on the fact that it is now clear that Gordon is always doing what he believes is right for the country.

    I recall that Peter Sutcliffe had a belief that it was for the good of the country for him to slaughter as many prostitutes as possible.

    Fortunately Sutcliffe was consinged to Broadmoor which of course is exactly
    where Brown should be.

  190. 1165
    Anonymous says:

    How about vote Cameron in Britan, get,

    blair, mandelson and brown in plum jobs in The United States of europe?

    • 1423
      Abolish the Licence Fee says:

      Just because Tony Blair is being lined up to become President of Europe doesn’t mean we’re heading down the road to a european super-state. Oh no, no, no.

  191. 1166
    nell says:

    I don’t want to be alarmist but a russian news agency has just reported that one of those russian Mi8 helicopters which we are havng to hire from Russia to move our troops about in Afghanistan has just crashed on take-off at Kandahar airfield Afganistan, killing 15 of it’s 17 passengers.

    The nationality of the victims has not been given.

    G*D help gordon if those 15 dead are our soldiers. And he’d better lock the doors to No.10 and go cower in the basement if it’s found the cause of the crash is second rate/defective russian hardware.

    • 1169
      nell says:

      The BBC is just reporting that the deaths are all civilian but says this is the 2nd russian helicopter to crash in Afghanistan this week without parent reason.

    • 1173
      Thick as thieves says:

      Hopefully it contained only a bunch of UN do gooders and peace core activists out there on a jolly.

      • 1174
        nell says:

        Pity perhaps that they stopped gordon going to helmand – he might have been on it then.

        • 1178
          Thick as thieves says:

          No way Gordon wouldn’t use a piece of flying scrap like that. He wouldn’t even chance his arse in anything the RAF could rustle up from their puny little fleet. For Gordon it would be a top of the range chartered luxury flying palace with all the bells and whistles and a massive bill for the taxpayer.

        • 1220
          nell says:

          1138 tat – In truth I hope they never let him anywhere near helmand –

          Those lads out there have as much trouble as they can handle –

          gordon’s jinx needs confining to barracks ie no.10.

        • 1241
          thick as thieves says:

          1.26 thief,
          refrain from using my pseudonym thief.
          being modded all the time can be a real hassle I would imagine.
          I don’t know what it is like to be modded because I never am.
          THAT IS BECAUSE I AM TOP BOY NOW FUCK OFF SLAG!

          hey nell good to see you holding the line.
          I just want to say, and I am being totally on the level here, that even though the great thick as thieves is himself a hero, he also has heroes and you are one of them.
          you are a diamond in the fucking rough. a real class act.
          God bless you nell. you are nothing like the rest of those tory wannabee wankers that you so foolishly hang around with.
          they are just a bunch of c’unts but you nell, you are the real deal.
          first class.

    • 1180

      The Hunt for Red October is one of my all-time favourite action movies, and it has a great soundtrack that would even make a capitalist cry. Folks of a more rightwing leaning may wish to look up The Parallax View. It’s a bit of a curveball but another killer movie with a strong political subtext is The Clan of the Cave Bear.

      • 1215
        Angry Voter says:

        Piss off you miserable bastard.

      • 1225
        albacore says:

        You’re talking through your most productive orifice, as ever. Wee Gordie lend you his spare eye and unique appreciation of external reality, mayhap?
        The Hunt for Red October was about the defection of a submarine crew’s officers, complete with hi-tech stealth boat, from communist Russia to capitalist America.
        Still, that was 1990.

  192. 1179

    I agree with the Prime Minister that mere tax cuts for creating new jobs isn’t enough. The real key remains business vision and employment liquidity. People need to let go of being so rigid and picky, and entertain new ideas and lower thresholds to giving people a chance, take a hard, hard look at quality of products and services, and invest in employee and customer loyalty. Skill is useful but a better attitude is fundamental to embracing necessary change.

  193. 1184
    Nick "Aye,Aye,That's Yer Lot Then" Griffin says:

    Gordon Brown goes into a library and asks for a book on suicide.

    The librarian says; “Fuck off, you won’t bring it back.”

  194. 1197

    But with Bob “Fred Kite” Ainsworth on the case, Gordon Brown has been BANNED by the army from visiting Afghanistan!

    More of Brown’s friends (his real friends?) are telling him how it is. Will he listen? It’s very doubtful. Plus! Army bans Brown from Afganistan

  195. 1199

    Hang on! I think I messed that up! Let’s try again!

    But with Bob “Fred Kite” Ainsworth on the job, Gordon Brown is BANNED by the army from visiting Afghanistan!

    More of Brown’s friends (his real friends?) are telling him how it is. Will he listen? It’s very doubtful. Plus! Army bans Brown from Afganistan

    http://valuesaustralia.com/blog/IARJ.jpg
    Fred Kite or Bob Ainsworth??

  196. 1205
    streamfisher says:

    I take it by the huge number of replies to this one Guido, it means that yes indeed there are a lot of unemployed people, despite desperate and despair-ate attempts by the Government to fiddle the figures as usual.

  197. 1209
    Tony Blairs tromboner says:

    Thick as shit and Paedo shorts
    Couldnt you find a better way to spend a Sunday?
    Probably not.

    • 1297
      thick as thieves says:

      SAID THE GUY RESPONDING ON A SUNDAY!
      DOH!
      retard.
      shove your trombone up your arsehole motherfucker.
      and then play it.
      now that would be clever.
      now fuck off.
      thankyou.

  198. 1210
    Tony Blairs tromboner says:

    July 19, 2009 at 3:09 pm
    Thick as shit and Paedo shorts
    Couldnt you find a better way to spend a Sunday?
    Probably not.

  199. 1223
    Bea says:

    Check out medical videos at: http://www.medtube.tk

  200. 1224
    nell says:

    The Observer (of all papers) is revealing that the Connecticut manufacturers of the Black Hawk helicopter have told the government that they could put 60- yes 60!! Black Hawks into Helmand for the British Army IMMEDIATELY.

    But Quentin Letts working to ‘Bob not up to the job’s’ instructions, wrote on 7th July (the day that trooper Christopher Whiteside died on foot patrol in Helmand killed by an IED) rejecting that offer and saying that ” we shall, in the near future, be pursuing a refit of our PUMA fleet”

    He chose not to say that the PUMA fleet is ageing and has already been ruled as incapable of dealing with conditions in Afghanistan or that it was acknowledged that taking the Black Hawks from America was actually a cheaper option than attempting to refit the British PUMA’s through British companies.

    • 1230
      Hugh Janus says:

      The Puma upgrade has been on the cards now for quite some time but, as always, there is no sense of urgency.

      Don’t they know there’s a war on??!

      • 1238
        nell says:

        Sorry Hugh – I think it’s more a question of they don’t care.

        Gordon nor Labour have ever much been interested in the military – proof is in his apointment of the lightweight ‘bob not up to the job’ as Defence Minister.

    • 1231
      grobdj says:

      trouble is nell, I doubt whether we have the air crew to fly them, such is our underinvestment in the RAF and Royal Army Air Corps. Helicopter pilots are loth to stay on after serving out their 10-year commissions, because of the paltry career path laid out for them. So pilots who cost us millions of pounds to train would rather move on to commercial aviation. It would be interesting to compare the respective salary and conditions of a Chinook pilot to say, the bod who flies your local police helicopter. Most people would be surprised.

      • 1236
        nell says:

        grobdj that’s depressing!!

        Sooner we get rid of this losing criminal labour crew the better.

  201. 1226
    grobdj says:

    The blame for the desperate unemployment figures has to be laid squarely with Gordon Brown. His vision of a command economy, with 5-year plans for this, and 10-year plans for that, was plucked straight from a 1970’s school textbook – I vividly remember being taught back then that this was how NOT to run a country.

    Sadly for us, the last 12 years have seen our engine of recovery (i.e. manufacturing) smashed, scrapped, and exported. And with 90% of the population having earned a good living without having to get hands dirty, there is no early prospect that the country will realise that manufacturing, along with farming, mining, and innovation, are the basic wealth creators on which the rest of the economy rides.

    • 1228
      nell says:

      gordon believes in a service economy, hotels, restaurants and ministers of the presbyterian hurch and such –

      I don’t think he’s one for doing a real job or getting his hands dirty on a farm or in a factory. We have to remember this labour government aren’t about supporting real working people, they are champagne socialists only interested in feathering their own nests from the proceeds of our hard work.

      Does anybody know what sort of work he did before he became an mp?

      • 1235
        grobdj says:

        He taught politics at Glasgow Uni or something like that. Must have been where he rubbed up against John Smith, Blair, Charlie Faulkner and the rest of the Scottish mafia who now govern us. He struck lucky because he looked like a prudent presbyterian, just as Blair needed someone to play the part and convince the City Boys that Labour could be trusted with the economy.

      • 1425
        Abolish the Licence Fee says:

        He never did any meaningful work before entering into politics. He has no idea about basic economics.
        Here’s a suggestion for you, Gordon: commit suicide immediately. That’s the best advice I can give you for your own sake and that of the nation.

  202. 1239

    Your blog has been nominated for Blog of the Day here . . .
    http://bloggersaward.wordpress.com/2009/07/19/blog-of-the-day-nominees-71909/
    You can vote for your blog in the link above. Check back the 20th to see who won. Good luck, and congratulations on becoming a nominee!

    Chris via ‘Blog of the Day’

  203. 1246
    Wireless says:

    Seen elsewhere: Journalism Matters – Lionel Barber, a Journalist, well I’ll go to the foot of my stairs and beat my head against the wall.

    • 1315
      Court of Pubic Opinion says:

      Lionel Barber (FT bloke) is a pompous mother-fucking son of a bitch. His QT performance was vomit inducing in the extreme.

      Fuck off and die you sneery, pious and unctuous failed banker wannabe.

  204. 1247
    Charles Hardwidge says:

    I don’t need to stress the desperate state of our country: disunity, crime, anti-social behaviour, mass immigration, political correctness, corruption, foreign rule, democratic collapse, surveillance society, anti-white discrimination, dirty hospitals, Christianity mocked, brainwashing in schools, banker bail-outs, economic decline, living costs, soft policing, roads clogged with traffic, overpopulation, Islamification, British heritage censored, expenses scandals, stealth taxes, bureaucratic government, nanny state, environmental destruction, over urbanisation, rural decline, second-rate public services, native Brits second-class citizens, terrorist appeasement, pensioners neglected, foreign aid waste, mosques replacing churches, American subservience, illegal wars, servicemen perishing, ineffective military kit, illiteracy, asylum-seeker fraud, mass unemployment , rip-off Britain, media lies, EU sell-out…. I could go on all day, enough is enough! We are fast becoming a bankrupt, third-world slum!

  205. 1250
    nell says:

    Norwich North By Election coming on Tursday.

    Interesting array of candidates – including 2 Independents and 1 Honest Man , not to mention UKIP, Greens, ‘the party that must not be mentioned’ and the Monster Raving Loony Party.

    This looks hopeful for a lively contest in J*hn Berc*w’s seat in the General Election in 2010. tat will be pleased.

    Interestingly, the chiefs running labour’s campaign in Norwich have kept gordon firmly out of sight not believing him to be a vote winner. Cleggy and Dave have both been there campaigning hard for their own corners.

    • 1308
      Anon says:

      Where’s the B&P candidate then?

      • 1322
        nell says:

        To the far right of every decent person. In the usual place!

        • 1327
          Nick B&P Griffin says:

          Ooooh, that hurt. Around 9.5 million voted New Labia in at the last GE, just under 1 million voted for my party. Not so insignificant really. Many more votes coming our way next year. You think voters have faith in the current three party set-up? It’s done wonders for the country recently!

          You are you ilk can’t go around in La La Land for ever.

        • 1329
          nell says:

          1282. Not so –

          You got the disgruntled vote this time. But only because the electorate has little interesst in county and eu elections. These elections are regarded a as second rate. event – not of much interest to the mains tream electorate.

          At the GE the main vote willl swing back to conventional parties or maybe as tat is saying, in some constituencies, to independents.

        • 1331
          Anon says:

          You think people will put their faith back in corrupt and discredited parties? Yes, you’re probably right. Sounds like you might so god help the UK.

        • 1340
          nell says:

          1286 you sound so lost – maybe in need of a ++(hug)++

          Stop being so angry.

          Whatever we vote – we are all in the same boat and we are all betrayed and failed by this present Labour government – including our armed forces in Helmand.

        • 1344
          Anon says:

          Yes, failed by Labour and equally failed by an utterly useless opposition headed up by someone who couldn’t muster the passion to fight his way out of a damp brown paper bag if his life depended on it. Clegg is a mere dried bogey stuck under the desk of mediocrity.

          Sidekick Osborne reminds me of the useless D Milliband (and Ed come to that). Both blinking in the headlights of publicity and showing themselves up for the cretins that they are. They’ve been on the media handling courses, know how to move their arms effectively but that is about it.

          Yes, I am angry. I want Parliament cleansed of the whole fucking lot of them!

        • 1359
          Mugs led by Crooks says:

          The British people never fail to display their idiocy. The expenses show is over, and they will revert to tribal voting. They don’t have the courage to change the system, because they fall for the same old bullshit that has always prevailed. They have all been part of a great conspiracy to defraud the taxpayer, and yet the three party system is alive and well. If you vote for any of the incumbents, pat yourselves on the back and feel glad that you “belong”

        • 1384
          barefootcontessa says:

          Agree with 1299, and 1314, sorry Nell.

  206. 1257

    o/t but of great concern
    Government slated over hepatitis C failure

    And if someone wants a hepatitis C vaccine how much are they charged? £60 bloody Quid! Outrageous!

    • 1282
      Trough Mixture says:

      A very important post TN. Many believe HCV to be limited to dodgy blood products or ‘the Junkie’s Disease’, which is very far from the truth, indeed 1 in 15 of people reading this blog would test positive for the antibodies. Anybody who ever stood in a queue for immunisation with a ‘gun’ should see their gp and test urgently. I’m not talking per rectum here – it will be another 4 months before I know if the six months of antiviral injection treatment and tablets have left me sustainedly free of the virus – which I carried for nearly 30 years without knowing. My cirrhotic liver will never repair and I have drunk my last beer or glass of the Widow Cliquot. I can only have acquired the virus via an army immunisation queue. There is a compensation fund for civvies, but not for soldiers. I would encourage everybody to check on the net for what the risk groups are and then test,test,test. HCC (Liver Cancer) is not a pleasant or necessary way to die.

      Thanks for posting that.

    • 1286
      PT Barnum says:

      So, let’s get this right. The Strategic Health Authorities sit between the Dept of Health and the PCTs, transmitting and monitoring DoH policy to the PCTs. Except they aren’t.

      1. Why does each region need an SHA? Strategic work or overview of capability and delivery should be with the DoH.
      2. If the SHAs aren’t doing this, what are they doing?
      3. If the DoH doesn’t do this work, what are they doing?
      4. How many penpushers are employed by the SHAs and DoH and how much do they cost?

      And meanwhile people are dying and costing the NHS (taxpayers) big money in the process.

      Great. Triffic. Vote Labour and die horribly.

    • 1290
      Trough Mixture says:

      My reply automodded. I have replied on your site TN. You made a very important post. Thank you.

    • 1293
      Infanta of Castile says:

      They aren’t charged anything because there isn’t a vaccine against hepatitis C. There are vaccines against hepatitis A and hepatitis B.

  207. 1268
    valleys bhoyo says:

    you plebs are missing the real policy of zanunewlab. when Kinnock bravely vanquished the Marxists Militant Stalinists from Labour they simply went under the radar and have now got power in the cabinet and upper echelons of the Party. The UK gulag is less than a generation away, manned by the otherwise unemployable public sector tickboxers, the useful idiots as Lenein called them.

  208. 1274

    The Japanese are masters in graphics and the institutional methods of both creating and maintaining graphical fidelity in the on-line world. I am writing a book on this. It will explain the PC graphics hardware to a very deep level, and how it impacts code performance. It will treat both 2-D and 3-D graphics and animation in great detail. I hope it will show that graphics optimization is largely a right-brain process, not simply one of counting cycles and analyzing CPU execution speed.

    My book also provides tools and rationales for measuring performance of animated graphics in a Zen aura. It provides examples of optimized graphics in both fundamental figures like lines, circles, and ellipses, as well as elaborate 3-D objects composed of multiple polygons. The industry’s best and most-detailed coverage of BSP treeswill feature, along with the cutting-edge algorithm that makes breathtaking real-time animated 3-D graphics possible all within an environment where one must take graphics and their existential fidelity scores when deciding how and where graphics are placed on a web site.

  209. 1284
    nell says:

    Even Mark Austin of the Mirror is now saying that gordon is flying in the face of reality by denying the desperate need of helicopters in Helmand.

    Even the Mirror has now deserted gordon!!

  210. 1295

    The Tories still lack the sort of business vision I’m looking for, and their members and wider constituents haven’t accepted that they share a responsibility and may need to give back to the broader business community and society. By that, I mean valuing the contribution of those lower down the chain in a meaningful way.

    So, again, I’m left calling for a better R&D focus and the wealthy middle-class who did well out of the incomes redistribution of the Thatcher years to give back some of what they took. That means better opportunity and fair pay, job enrichment and a little squealing as the wealthy find everyone else getting a free roll of the dice.

    • 1302
      Anon says:

      Just fuck off and die.

      • 1312
        nell says:

        Whilst I don’t agree with Charles – I think in this instant that perhaps Anon you should do that instead.

        • 1318
          Anon says:

          With his reputation? In a place like this?

          Think outside your box.

        • 1324
          nell says:

          Which box is that anon – the one without hinges?

          You try some lateral thinking instead – you might find it enlightening.

        • 1332
          Anon says:

          What is it with you and boxes with hinges on? Got some sort of weird fetish thing going on? Borderline ADHD?

        • 1335
          nell says:

          1287 –

          it’s boxes WITHOUT hinges –

          Lord of the Rings

          and Riddlers and things

          Don’t you read books??

        • 1337
          Anon says:

          Yes, unlike you however I don’t live my life in them.

        • 1345
          nell says:

          Neither do I sweetie –

          I spend most of my life looking after poorly people and fighting the NHS and LEA for the support that they need.

          Under Labour, people who are genuinely in need tend not to get any help unless someone like me fights for it.

        • 1350
          Anon says:

          Well said nell.

          I apologise for my brash comments.

        • 1357
          King Arthur says:

          Fair Nell,
          My nights are at your disposal

        • 1365
          Gym Shorts says:

          oh fuck of nell or should we call you JACE you keep changing your story everytime, at least try and be consistent.

  211. 1304
    Court of Pubic Opinion says:

    Lord Mandy of Poof and Boy should get his sorry arse down to PO HQ and give the strikers some hard talking to…

    Should be a fucking laugh.

    Fuck off Mandy you utter cúnt.

    “Up to 30,000 postal workers across the UK could soon be taking strike action in a worsening row over jobs, pay and services, threatening huge disruption to deliveries, it has been warned.

    The Communication Workers Union said it will be holding industrial action ballots in hundreds of its branches after accusing Royal Mail of cutting pay and jobs without agreement.

    Up to 12,000 workers went on strike on Friday in areas including London and parts of Scotland, and the action is now set to escalate.”

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jYdcrJ-9TPSbyBvpVvki2gdhA_2g

    • 1314
      nell says:

      According to Alex Singleton of the DT mandy is going to be next Leader of the Labour Party (apparently after their ‘devastating defeat at the GE in 2010′).

      I do hope so. He is, says Alex, the only man devious enough for the job. Too true!!!!

      Under mandy, Labour are facing not a decade but maybe two even three decades in the desert and out of power. With a bit of luck it will be so long that the LibDems will find the means to overtake them and become the 2nd power.

      • 1319
        Anon says:

        He’s welcome to them. With him at the helm it will be even more unelectable than ever. Way to go Mandy!

        • 1326
          nell says:

          Yes. I agree.

          mandy will be the last nail in labour’s coffin and I truly hope he ends up as their leader in 2010 after they lose the general election.

          Labour and mandy so deserve each other.

        • 1347
          Keep your friends close says:

          Don’t be ridiculous. Mandy, like Blair, just uses Labour as a stepping stone on to greater things. Why would he want to lead a dead duck party, when far more lucrative and rewarding opportunities are available? He may not be popular with the unwashed public, but in the corridors of power he glides onwards to ever more influence.
          He is propping up a discredited government single handed, and is the EU’s greatest fixer. Do you not think his fist is all over the Irish rewrite on the referendum question? He may be the Antichrist, but he’s a talented little son of Satan. Don’t take him for a fool.

        • 1385
          barefootcontessa says:

          Mandleswon will slip up on a banana skin yet. He has to live with himself for a start off!

        • 1387
          barefootcontessa says:

          Sorry, should have been mandleswine. Agree with 1302.

      • 1358
        nell says:

        1302 Nothing would please me more than to believe that mandy, like the rat he is, will leave the sinking ship after the disastrous 2010 GE.

        No doubt his russian pals will be happy to keep him in luxurious comfort.

        Hang on a minute whose 2nd class, badly serviced, helicopters are earning loads of money from our military at the moment in Afghanistan because gordon hasn’t made proper provision for our lads fighting in Helmand?

        Oh the russians!!!! What a surprise – mandy no doubt is clocking up some favors.

        I’m going to bed. Good Night . God Bless – My Prayer – Please keep our lads in Helmand safe!

        • 1362
          Women and children first? Don't make Peter laugh says:

          Of course he will leave the sinking ship! He has his own luxury lifeboat fully provisioned and with a homing beacon tuned in to the nearest millionaires yacht.

  212. 1313
    GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

    I passed Gordons house yesterday , Couldn’t get near enough to regester a protest by bricking his Fucking windows though !

  213. 1316

    Ooh, noooo! We broke the thread! All the numbers have disappeared!

    • 1333
      PT Barnum says:

      Perhaps we should go back one thread until we fill that up too. Just a thought.

      Absentee landlords, eh?

  214. 1342
    streamfisher says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7AiEB5CNPA. The famous Mr Ed tells it like it is again.

  215. 1346
    streamfisher says:

    Gordon tries another phone in.

  216. 1354
    spark up says:

    mr ishmael says the party’s over, guido? any comment?

    how comes i never got an invite?

  217. 1364
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  218. 1366
    c h o c o l o t i s says:

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  219. 1371
    Agent 99 says:

    It Just gets worse and worse for Labour

    Audit chiefs refuse to pass accounts for 5 Government
    departments
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200670/Audit-chiefs-refuse-pass-accounts-5-Government-departments.html

    Labour risks humiliation as MPs boycott by-election over MP’sresignation
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news

  220. 1378
    Observer says:

    I don’t want to be a damper on everyone’s weekend, but if you think unemployment is bad now, you want to wait until the next decade. Massive social upheaval is on its way. A lot of well-meaning skulls are going to get cracked.

  221. 1379
    caesars wife says:

    fascinating interview with Alan johnson on Andrew Pravda show , in fairness Andrew didnt really hold back on questions that much .

    AM :knfe crime is a terrible problem at the moment and despite 12 years loads of money , antisocial behavouir orders and political will (didnt mention tough on crime and tough on causes of crime as didnt want to ruin blairs chance at becoming archbishop of brussles)

    AJ : Look out of the window , i think what just flew past was the lesser spotted statisic

    AM :where ?

    AJ : 51% of teens who get an asbo dont re offend and we have stopped searched 250,000 people and confiscated 5000 knives .

    AM : I now want to talk about immigration and edward mosley

    AJ : Fascism comes and goes useually when you have high unemployement , but its the failing economy thats causing the far right , not immigration thats why we should let more immigrants in , we need to invest in the difficult times and these skills are vitally important as they vote for our sucesses in the labour party . Did i tell you i remeber Edward Mosley when I was 6 years old parading on our street corner , orrible man , caused riots (cw at this point wondered if AJ had pondered that if you fuel the problem you just create more mosleys , but clearly that cog was missing).

    AM : you grew up on council estate

    AJ :I did , a very good council estate all white in slough and i sent my kids to the local school (CW was expecting a borg systems crash at this point)

    AM :lets talk about helicopters

    AJ : I always liked sea kings , but appaches do a bloody good job , were thinking about using appaches to help reduce knife crime were working on slogun “got a balde not so fast tonto” what do you think of “one rocket you dont want for carrying a knife is a hellfire rocket !!” succinet i think .

    AM : and with the poles showing a 17 point lead is it game over for Labour

    AJ : with 8 months to go and jonah at the helm , you just wait and see , we can reverse that .

    AM :and with that i want to thank all of my guests and join me for next weeks program where I will trying to excuse the Norwhich North result and show some people stereotyped as tories kicking labradore puppies to death for fun

  222. 1380
    Anon says:

    Are you tossers still at it FFS.

  223. 1382

    Unemployment is rising. So why is this government forcing single parents of seven year olds to sign on?
    The anti-motherhood government.

  224. 1383
    • 1386
      barefootcontessa says:

      What’s he spinning now?

    • 1390
      Trough Mixture says:

      Hangs around like corpse gas does Damian. Am not an avid listener to VD, but will do so today as long as she processes him before the cricket.

      If there isn’t constant intercourse ‘twixt he and McTwat I’ll stand hanging.

    • 1392
      grobdj says:

      At the license-payer’s expense, the BBC provides oxygen to a discredited thug

  225. 1391
    Archullus says:

    Guido goes on a break.
    Damian McBride emerges from the shadows.
    see link at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8158483.stm
    Wonder how the BBC will handle this… oh wait here’s a headline coming
    Brown aide reveals PM slur anger

  226. 1393
    Anonymous says:

    It’s now Monday morning….where is the bollock awful cartoon to ruin my day?

    • 1405
      Anon says:

      I’m missing it too. Nothing like a mash up of rancid colours to start the week with.

  227. 1394
    Infanta of Castile says:

    All these disassociated comments makes me think that Guido is developing a new game for Christmas: Match that Blog. You print out the comments and try to work out which other comment they are linked to.

    Hours of fun in prospect for families who won’t be able to afford any other entertainment over the festive season.

  228. 1396
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    Thanks a lot Guido.

    No Skid & Mark Cartoon today.

    Hooooooray.

  229. 1398
    Whiffler says:

    Guido

    Cooooeeeee – anything to say on McBride ?

  230. 1399
    Osama the Nazarene says:

    Guido,

    I hear your “old mate” McBride has been let out of his cage and true to form is telling porky pies attempting to whitewash his master the prime mentalist.

  231. 1400
    nell says:

    Gordon is busy visiting Nissan today. Oh dear redundancies to follow by Xmas.

  232. 1401
    All Over Now says:

    Goodbye Gweedo. It’s been fun.

  233. 1402
    Sarah says:

    FFS Guido, has Mrs. Fawkes thrown your laptop into the swimming pool?
    It’s 9:30 Monday am, and I want my cartoon!

  234. 1404
    Damian McBride says:

    George Osborne’s wife, jittery
    Nadine Dorries very jittery and easy.

  235. 1409
    Anonymous says:

    So massaging unemployment figures is new? Guess which party started THAT one. Guess which party is responsible for the ‘free’-market that got the whole nation into the state its now in. Just a quick reminder – their colour isn’t red or yellow. Their Fuerher was a viscous little witch in a blue dress. Unfortunately, the red party now sing the same tune.

    • 1412
      barefootcontessa says:

      Bonjour Guido, ca va? C’est tres bien ici en France, n’est pas?!

  236. 1415
    agent58 says:

    FOR THE UNEMPLOYEED Grab Life By the Horns! Start a bussiness

  237. 1426

    Dear All

    Here is an interesting concept;

    “Chris Gilmore says: July 19, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    “Please dont stab me id the back again Georgie boy I cant take it no more”.

    Sorry, is that a full confession?

    Is a plea for mitigation under the Criminal Procedures (Scotland) Act 1995, Section 196 (1)?

    Yours sincerely

    George Laird
    The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

  238. 1429
    Lord Sugar says:

    I took my seat in the House of Lords today. Don’t you think I looked really regal in my robes? Why do you twats allow so many foreigners to govern you?

  239. 1430
    €49.³³ says:

    Freedom to post anonymously is something you just can’t put a price on.

  240. monty says:

    TaT can be quite witty. This guy sucks.

  241. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

    True, but with me its quantity rather than quality of wit — TWAT is good, I concede that to ya…and at the end of the day, tories like you are still bastards.

  242. Troll Basher says:

    fook off twat aka tat

  243. tory dalek troll says:

    Hmm…….a Tory bastard or a Liebore cretin? I think we need some right bastards in now to clear out all the dead wood choking the life out of this country, so Tories it is.

  244. PEG LEGG CLEFF says:

    I’LL HAVE YOU NO I’M A LIB DEM

  245. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

    Is this a cunningly disguised “Iain Dalek” posting herein?

  246. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

    tories don’t do honesty – so don’t feign it – it just don’t work, okay, get it?

  247. Troll Basher says:

    Exterminate da fookin socialists! Exterminate! Exterminate!!!

  248. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

    *yawn*

  249. Ed Balls is a toff gone rancid says:

    Doing a good job of it themselves. 900,000 of their loyalists have declared UDI in favour of their version of the closed shop and excluding scab labour.

    Ta, Labour.

    Everything your touch turns to dross

  250. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

    Are you a real twat or do you just do a good impersonation?

    What was the subject of this discussion again – was it something to do with the FOUR MILLION UMEMPLOYED the tories gave us and whether we should “trust” them again?

  251. Labels like “socialism” and “capitalism” are largely redundant and just get in the way. People would be better off understanding the bigger picture and flow of events. The Tao may be 6000 years old but it’s as good a treatise on this as anything.

    Socialism and capitalism are mere perspectives of an underlying reality. The Tao suggests that everything arises from the Yin (or female, or Socialist), and that the Yang (or macho, or Capitalism) always collapses back into the Yin.

    You can see a similar dynamic in communication or marketing. The punchy, shrill, and cheap blow looks powerful and get a lot of attention for little effort (like Guido Fawkes), but the more subtle, long-term, and gentle always prevails.

  252. Zed says:

    In power 12-13 years on and tha Socialists still blame the Tories for Unemployment and the reason that the north-south, gender, rich-poor, economy etc etc etc position is worse than when they moved in.
    Whatever happened to accountability and responsibility ?
    Don’t answer that – it’s a rhetorical question.
    Jeez !!!!!!!!!!!

  253. Zed says:

    We now ASPIRE to Four Million unemployed.
    And it’s just the beginning.
    Socialism always fails – and it never disappoints.
    The ONLY reason Labour gained power was it’s promise to allow freedom for business and it’s promise to restrict taxation.
    Failed and Liars.

  254. mummy says:

    Time for bed fucktard.

  255. nell says:

    Oh good -you are going to sleep

    Now??!!

  256. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

    Posted in news

    Buddhist Quote of the Moment

    The Dharma of the Buddha is not found in books. If you want to really see for yourself what the Buddha was talking about you don’t need to bother with books. Watch your own mind. Examine to see how feelings come and go, how thoughts come and go. Don’t be attached to anything, just be mindful of whatever there is to see. This is the way to the truths of the Buddha. Be natural. Everything you do in your life here is a chance to practice. It is all Dharma. When you do your chores try to be mindful. If you are emptying a spittoon or cleaning a toilet don’t feel you are doing it as a favor for anyone else. There is dharma in emptying spittoons. Don’t feel you are practicing only when you are sitting cross-legged. Some of you have complained that there is not enough time to meditate. Is there enough time to breathe? This is your meditation: mindfulness, naturalness in whatever you do.

    Achaan Chaa

  257. fucktard says:

    ok mommy as long as you read me a story and touch me in my special place.

  258. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5 says:

    come to http://troonite.co.uk

    namaste

  259. Henry II says:

    Who will rid me of this turbulent lefty ponce?

  260. Zed says:

    Labels like Middle Class are largely redundant.
    There are the Working Class and Underclass.
    The Political Class decide how much to rob the Working Class to provide for the Underclass.
    The Political Class help themselves.

  261. Brown of The Dead says:

    Good news then, that labels like twat, wanker, cock trumpet, fucktard and knob jockey are still working overtime, Mr CashewWidger

  262. Fidel X Penses says:

    You forgot to mention ‘graphics fidelity’.

    HTH

  263. Sarah says:

    That’s what my husband said last night “ooh darling my yang has arisen and wants to collapse into your yin”.
    I love it when he talks dirty!

  264. grandma B says:

    I really sympathize with your inability to construct understandable sentences.

    If you want to connect with the average reader, you need to make yourself understood. It’s possible we might even like you if we understood what you were on about.

    P.S. I hope you realize that I’ve decided to treat you with kindness and compassion – life must be very difficult for you during Gordon’s political melt down.

  265. Sungei Patani says:

    Pompous pretentious rubbish.

  266. nell says:

    Gordon doesn’t understand the importance of ‘elicopters to keep our young men alive in Afghanistan and Guido does not moderate his own blog.

    Yeah — Father Christmas lives!!!!

  267. streamfisher says:

    Automatic Like Gordon Brown, New Labour and Hoons! (testing, testing 1,2,3). Hoons?

  268. Troll Basher says:

    The “snip” hurts like fook

  269. Extraordinary Rendition says:

    Abdul is on holiday with us

  270. Tudeh Barricades? says:

    Hey, SPADo:

    Whatcha gonna do when the Government falls, and it’s a free for all like a bar-room brawl?

  271. Zed says:

    … and you “don’t do” intelligence, mate.
    Geddit ?

  272. Pontius The Pilot says:

    Hah, look who’se fucking talking!!!!

    Fuckin’ “Paedo Shorts”, more like!!!!

  273. Zed says:

    You are from Troon ?
    Marr too I suspect.
    Typical.

  274. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    ASS as in ASSUMPTIONS never buttered any apples

  275. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    kiss my royal fucking arse you sad piece of shit

  276. Mark Oaten says:

    can i slip my tongue in as well?

  277. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    If you insist Mark, its your tongue – but the post itself was a mistake :-(
    just gimme a second and I’ll slip off the boxers

  278. Listen, dude. I don’t give a rats ass for policy free sloganised emotionalism. It’s just dumb and manipulative – the stuff of the playground not the classroom, or barbarism not civilisation. Just because Cameron plays Mugabe politics doesn’t mean you have to join in. C’mon, get some self-respect.

  279. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    If you were as shitty as you’re witty you’d be constipated

  280. nell says:

    Charlie = All that matters is that our lads in Aghanisan are kept safe.

    Gordon needs to give them all the equipment they need to have to win the war.

    Gordon just do it !!!!

  281. im labour i hate winners says:

    is gordon elected unlike mugabe,you are a laugh charles

  282. Anonymous says:

    I see more as,

    Upper class

    Upper middle class – professionals doctors, architects, and unfortunately the politicos, marketing, celebrities.

    Lower middle class – technicians (like nurses, senior NCOs, police), non-professional with real jobs with real pay. A lot of these are state employees or employees of formerly nationalised industries (whose terms and conditions are absolutely f’ing fantastic no wonder they all complained when Mrs T went after them.)

    Working class – unskilled, minimum wage, crap conditions, short contract (remember capitalism needs surplus labour to make sure the workers toe the line.)

    Under class – benefits, black economy

    A tutor at uni’ tried to infer everybody in the group was middle class. A quite after the tutorial was over made sure he never made that mistake again.

  283. Raving Loon says:

    “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who are not.”

    Thomas Jefferson

  284. Anonymous says:

    They are spending money. Just they are spending it on crap kit that everybody else has rejected and paying twice as much for it.

    See http://www.defenceoftherealm.blogspot.com/

    Though take everything with a pinch of salt. Dr North only likes people who whistle his tune. All solutions are compromise have problems and yet he appears to offer no real solutions of his own. Typical ruddy academic……..

  285. Anonymous says:

    We need a system like Slashdot has – user-based moderation, so comments can be voted down. You can then set a threshold and comments with more negative votes than the threshold are hidden. Perfect.

  286. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    Hye engine ears – howzzit hangin’ ?

  287. 5p€d0☻5h0rt5| says:

    trouble is that all you tory sheep need a Guid0 Fawke5 to lead you by the nose. Yes Guid0, No Guid0 three bags full Guid0 – se what I mean?

  288. Anonymous says:

    you`ll be saying that Julie Kirkbride came from a working class background next.
    did all you wonderful wonderful people see the interview with mother Barbara – it was inspirational and simply simply wonderful and adorable. Barbara is worth every penny that Julie pays her, she is wonderful, simply wonderful.

  289. The Tutor says:

    You are confusing class with socio-economic groups.

  290. Anonymous says:

    Nope, can you explain ?

  291. Anonymous says:

    Julie Kirkbride is my leader you dozy leftie.

  292. So17 says:

    Yes Speedo.

  293. Back Tudeh Future? says:

    Hey, SPADo, yer ponce, ya didn’t answer my question from last night – wahtcha gonna do when the Government falls, and it’s a free for all like a bar-room brawl?

    Just curious.

  294. Anonymous says:

    Glad to see cock trumpet is still doing the rounds

  295. Anonymous says:

    Andrew MacKay does NOT behave like that!

  296. Anonymous says:

    Why should Julie Kirkbride explain anything to anyone. Such a political colossus is above all criticism. SO, SHOVE OFF YOU LEFTIES.

  297. Anonymous says:

    JULIE KIRKBRIDE IS A LEFTIE YOU DOPE!

  298. Anonymous says:

    o yes he does

  299. An amateur Pharmacologist says:

    Theory:

    Master Bator = weekday work mode.

    TAT = apres minimum wages, cocaine. Thinks it’s hard. And working class.

    S**d* ******S = spunked all its wages, bitter, withdrawal symptoms.

  300. Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    Bloody Hell Anonymous. See you have your own one hour programme on ITV1 tonight at 7pm.I am out but will set the recorder.
    I hope you hae TAT and Master Baiter on as guests.
    Bleeep.Bleeep,Bleeeep.

  301. Anonymous says:

    Hi Anonymous, I am, at last, back! See you are still on this scumblog mate. Had an absolutely great time, even met a young lady on my travels, but I am now back to this wonderland where no one seems too understand anything about politics…sad really mate.

  302. Chapps says:

    OT, Have you seen BBC troughing hoons, one bastard has even claimed for a eye sight test, and we fucking paid for it, FUCK ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  303. grandma B says:

    This was meant for CEH, but could equally apply to the guy in the swimming trunks.

  304. 5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

    Granny, you yourself really must observe the strictures on achieving effective “reader comprehension” you so readily conjoin others on this board to observe: in other words “what the fuck are you talking about?”!

  305. 5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

    I will resist the dubious temptation to “fuck” you but I do agree with your point about the BBC troughers.

  306. Infanta of Castile says:

    Eye tests are a reasonable expense if one’s job requires use of a VDU. I think employers are required by H & S W regs to make arrangements for or re-imburse costs of them.

  307. 5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

    “An amateur Pharmacologist”, WHAt are you ON?

  308. thick as thieves says:

    working class?
    I AM A WORKING CLASS HERO YOU C’UNT!
    I AM TOP BOY YOU ARE JUST FUCKING SCUM!
    LICK MY BOOTS SCUM YOU ARE MY BITCH NOW YOU FUCKING SLAG!
    oh and afford cocaine on the minimum wage?
    don’t be so silly.
    you silly fucking crackhead.

  309. stilyagi_air_corps says:

    So is Frank Field, what’s your point?

  310. kris Alienz says:

    Hi Newgirl just returned from my travels, sorry but I met a young lady travelling, so, alas we are finished. I see the sad bunch are in!

  311. nell says:

    Sorry NewGirl. Impossible to find in over a thousand comments. It’s like looking for a needle in a haystack. Think we need a new thread.

  312. oriental ladyboy says:

    Mwah!!

  313. Pointless says:

    I see the sad bunch are in!….They are now, must leave.

  314. An amateur Pharmacologist says:

    Onto YOU, mate!

  315. grandma B says:

    To the guy in the dodgy trunks with 3 consecutive posts – stop talking to yourself. That’s the prerogative of someone like me.

  316. 5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

    It would take a batter man than you to do that, I can assure you! :-))

  317. 5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

    oops sorry for the typo pharmacist – lost me glasses :-( (should be “better” not “batter”)

  318. Ah Tizhu says:

    Let’s cha cha cha, Shortarse.

  319. TOO FAR says:

    MMMMM. deep shit, esp. near bed time… FFS get a life!!!!

  320. Hoonlike Trougher says:

    Looks like someone got The Football Factory DVD for their birthday.

  321. 5pedo|5hort5 says:

    > I AM A WORKING CLASS HERO YOU C’UNT!

    pleased to meet you, I’m a bastard.

  322. An amateur Pharmacologist says:

    Working Class hero? When was the last time you earned a wage, you soft-handed t*wat? If you can’t afford cocaine on a minimum wage, I suggest you tell your local crack dealers: they’ll be mortified.

  323. 5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

    As a woman passed her daughter’s closed bedroom door, she heard a strange buzzing noise coming from within. Opening the door, she observed her daughter with a vibrator.

    Shocked, she asked: ‘what in the world are you doing?’

    The daughter replied: ‘mom, I’m thirty-five years old, unmarried, and this thing is about as close as I’ll ever get to a husband. Please, go away and leave me alone.’

    The next day, the girl’s father heard the same buzz coming from the other side of the closed bedroom door. Upon entering the room, he observed his daughter making passionate love to her vibrator.

    To his query as to what she was doing, the daughter said: ‘dad I’m thirty-five, unmarried, and this thing is about as close as I’ll ever get to a husband. Please, go away and leave me alone.’

    A couple days later, the wife came home from a shopping trip, placed the groceries on the kitchen counter, and heard that buzzing noise coming from, of all places, the living room. She entered that area and observed her husband sitting on the couch, downing a cold beer, and staring at the TV.

    The vibrator was next to him on the couch, buzzing like crazy.

    The wife asked: ‘What the f**k are you doing?’

    The husband replied: ‘I’m watching football with my son-in-law.’

  324. Escape to victory says:

    good one

  325. Nick "Aye,Aye,That's Yer Lot Then" Griffin says:

    That gag was a blinder and I will use it in act on my summer tour.
    Thanks mate

  326. TOO FAR says:

    NO! A limp dick!!

  327. nell says:

    Bob not up to the job – you can (H)old my coat anytime as long as you are going to give our men in Afghanistan the (H)elicopters they need (and please stop dropping your h’s!!)

    I thought this Labour Govt was about education education education

  328. nell says:

    Lenny McLean – I should have said Thankyou for your ‘chivalrous’ offer .

  329. f-ing hell says:

    nell = a troll

  330. Anonymous says:

    Let’s bring back the YTS and use that to train pilots and air crew. And you could go on a YTS and learn something too.

  331. Thick as thieves says:

    Gordon understands perfectly but he is skint and has no money to pay for them unless he robs it from another budget. Would you really have him remove vital funding from the LGBT community in order to fund the British Army’s summer jolly in Afganistan?

  332. Thick as thieves says:

    Gordon understands perfectly but he is skint and has no money to pay for them unless he robs it from another budget. Would you really have him remove vital funding from the LGBT community in order to fund the British Army’s summer jolly in Afganistan?

  333. streamfisher says:

    Hoons?, my first hoons but not my second began with a C, system filter must be working.

  334. streamfisher says:

    Nice when somebody else, or some thing, changes your text to make it publishable, or is it?. I still worry about the thought police, yes I am still guilty and too many swigs on the Victory Gin is no excuse.

  335. Every UK Government has a contingency fund, it never appears on any budget or balance sheet. If Gordon or the rest of the numpties signing death warrants for our underfunded underresourced troops in Affers (as the front line likes to call it) had half a brain cell between them, they would dump the pssport Olympics aka big black hole, and use it to ensure our troops are properly resourced. Once we are rid of the two wars we are fighting then we can spend whatever on syncronised swimming and pat ball. Won’t happen and we will still be crap at winning ( china being a freak)

  336. The Beast Of Clerkenwell says:

    Hep C isnt a prob
    Dont either eat shell fish or lick Pamela Andersons arsehole.
    Then you should be safe

  337. Anon says:

    That’s News says: 6:10 pm

    “And they charge £60 for the shots…”

    That’s my kind of pub honey!

  338. A Lobster says:

    Amen

  339. A gay man says:

    You taste familiar
    Salty boy

  340. streamfisher says:

    How can you have a contingency fund when you are in debt to the tune of £175 billion, they haven’t even got enough change to fill a bank bag with one pence coins.

  341. Rant Against the Machine says:

    Knowing Gordon he will have spent any contingency funding long ago.

  342. Little Nell says:

    It’s nothing political or personal it’s just cheaper for the Labour party to replace a relatively few number of lost solders then it to buy very expensive foreign made helicopters and then have to fund expensive training. Gordon Brown and his Labour party chums have cynically calculated that the cheapest way of dealing with roadside IED’s is to march a few solders over them. Any losses can then quickly be replaced from Britain’s unemployment black spots and sink estates. That way there is more cash available for important social programmes. This could be regarded as a very cold and cynical way for the Government to conduct its business but it does make financial sense and curry flavour with his left wing politicos.

  343. streamfisher says:

    Thanks to my Presbyterian upbringing despite being swindled Left, Right and Centre by this Government, Bankers, Utility companies and assorted Quangos I find that I have nearly enough to…… better not go there, enough to fill a plastic bag with one pence coins!

  344. South of the M4 says:

    Correct valleys bhoyo. And that scoundrel Kinnock graces my local curry house. Makes you want to poison the *astard.

  345. Javelin says:

    City Am reckon the figure is 5.5 million – last week.

    In this article “Called Unemployment inflicting huge toll on UK”

    http://www.cityam.com/news-and-analysis/Allister-Heath/brqww6wp1k.html

    They also recommend reading, which contains official Government figures.

    http://83.244.183.180/100pc/wa/ccstatgp/ctolddur/a_carate_r_ccstatgp_c_ctolddur_aug08.html

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  347. Phew Fernley Shittingstall says:

    That’s what I like about the Welsh, such honest, balanced, reasonable individuals

  348. GORDON BROWNSYNDROME says:

    AND YOUR POINT IS ?

  349. 5p€d0☻|5h0rt5| says:

    Good one (even if Heather’s isn’t) HAHHAA!!

  350. Oh. That got modded.

  351. Anonymous says:

    Tosser.

  352. shelling-out says:

    Agreed. People’s lives are cheap, but steal money and you’re in for a long stretch.

  353. Projectile vomit Vinnie says:

    Nothing you have ever said is funny. Sad, yes, but funny, no.

  354. Mr Slater's Parrot says:

    SQUEEE-EERKK! FOUREYDBALDIE! FOUREYEDBALDIE! PHWEE-TWIT!

  355. Abolish the Licence Fee says:

    But it could be worse! There are forces at work that would like to introduce full blown Communism. Now that always ends in mass famine. No wonder then that its ‘little brother’ Socialism just leads to bust and mass unemployment.

  356. Abolish the Licence Fee says:

    Probably, but if he hasn’t yet, it’ll all be gone by the time the election comes around – if not sooner.




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