July 15th, 2009

Update : Bringing Jacqui to Justice

Chris Galley from the Sunlight Centre has been in touch to say that :

bring-jj“We are very happy that on the first day of fund raising we have had something like a 100 donations online and raised some £7,000. We wait to see what the post brings tomorrow, most donations are coming in small amounts of £50 and under. We are expecting to have raised some £20,000 by next week from pledges received today. This goes to show that the internet can be used as a tool to channel grassroots anger into action and donations.”

There are a lot of people genuinely angry about the way MPs have ripped off expenses – they want to see those who milked the system face the consequences. 

If Obama can raise $200 million online, we can raise £100,000…

See the Sunlight site for more details.


479 Comments

  1. 1

    Perhaps a small prize from the names of contributors drawn from a hat: I’d suggest something like Richard Timney’s porn stash but that might be a little generous, and very hard to post.

    • 8
      Dolly's butt plug says:

      Me me me. I hate the way I am used by my current, erm, user.

      • 427
        Expat says:

        If Guido donated $5k, then only $2k was collected from elsewhere!

        • 450
          normbrainer says:

          That’s £ not $

          I went to donate but the not-labelled-as-paypal paypal button had empty textboxes which is too much of a decision for this time of day.

        • 462
          Curious. says:

          Tell me, (I am not a lawyer), could a private prosecution be raised against the hacker Gary McKinnon thus screwing the Government good and proper?

    • 32
      The Beast Of Clerkenwell says:

      If every adult in the country sent just half as much money to Sunlight as Mrs Timney claimed for her husbands Raw meat 3 wanking fantasy films we may just have a glimmer of hope of getting a decent Govt.

      • 50
        Sick of the lot of them says:

        What makes you think it was just for his benefit? As I understand it, they watched this filth together, in an effort to inject some excitement into their stale and shitty relationship – albeit at our expense, of course.

      • 422
        Anon says:

        Raw meat 3? Sounds suspiciously like a gay film.

    • 457
      Richard Hand job Timney says:

      Oh yes, yes, yes, yesssss ohhh what a relief.

    • 467
      Jimmy says:

      I can’t find the part of the site where you publish your expenses.

  2. 2
    Lord Wayne De Trombone says:

    When is the launch party? (will need some more donations after)

    • 18

      No amount of Osbourne style pinched sincerity or Cameron smooching can hide the fact that Tory policies don’t stack up. They haven’t reformed enough to be competent for government. Sorry, but it’s true.

      • 21
        Your leaders should be in prison says:

        Cock.

      • 24

        Are you suggesting the current shower of shit is in any way competent?
        You twat!

        The Penguin

      • 43
        PT Barnum says:

        At 00:12am on 09 Sep 2008, Charles_E_Hardwidge wrote [on Nick Robinson's blog]:

        Gordon Brown is so hard that in one sneeze he discovers a new subatomic particle, and the reminder create the Aurora Borealis.

      • 88
        Greychatter says:

        During first few years of New Labour with Gordon as Chancellor he was using Tory policies produced by Ken Clarke. With Gordon and Tony Blair’s policies the economy has been trashed again. As has happened three times during my working life with successive Labour Governments.

        Forget the Lefty brain washing and look at the facts, Britain is alway poorer under Labour. Politicians are alway richer when they leave office than when the came in.

        The only people satisified with Labour are the ones living off the “productive” population of this country.

      • 90
        Cjamesk says:

        When the Revolution comes CEH I will take great pleasure in putting a 7.62×51mm NATO round in the back of your head.

        Zen on that you fraud.

        • 236
          Stephen Brown says:

          A .50 cal Mitchell round from a thousand meters produces a much more satisfying result.

        • 323
          Twot says:

          I think a large wire brush would suffice. Followed up with a prussic acid enema!

        • 350
          Beastmaster says:

          Whatever happened to good old pineapples and a baseball bat?

          THEM were the days.

      • 332
        Atlas shrugged says:

        CEH

        This blog is not a Conservative Party Love feast. This blog is primarily designed for lovers of freedom and liberty, or in other words LIBERTARIANS.

        Which is clearly something that no longer exists within any organs of the left. In my personal opinion Socialism and Libertarianism are absolute ideological opposites. But there again WHO really cares what I think anyway? The more truisms I speak, the more people think I am completely crazy. Such is the insanely crazy planet, WORLD COMMUNISM/FASCISM has now created for us all.

        If however some people just happen to believe that for all of its faults a Conservative government is more Libertarian then this current bunch of highly corrupted FASCISTS then so be it. They may even turn out to be partly correct.

        What this blog is not designed for is MIND CONTROLLED IDIOTS, who do not have a single independently thought out idea in there entire being, like yourself.

        Liberty, freedom and above all individual property rights certainly do not belong exclusively to only the voters of just one political party. Our collective problem is that these concepts are not actually part of ANY established or otherwise political parties thinking, either now or in the past.

        Your facial and pathetically ignorant comments, are not just an insult to our intelligence. They are a clear indication to your own personal lack of any form of free thinking intellect, whatsoever.

        • 394
          Steve Expat says:

          Well said – we’re not all paid up Tory members here, even if the Conservatives represent the closest of the mainstream parties to what most of us here want to see – a smaller, less interventionist state and lower taxes as a result.

          We have been taxed to death for very little benefit by the current government and it’s time for a change!

        • 404
          There is only one God. Mine says:

          Libertarian. sounds like an aspirational ideal on a par with Liberalism.
          Like the far left and the far right.

        • 424
          Libertarian Party Webspinner says:

          And here is the website for the Libertarian Political Party which is of course a non-partisan Political Party.

          http://lpuk.org/

        • 431
          Go for it you radicals says:

          OK. I’m open to a new way of government,especially having seen so many shit ones of both main parties.Having only had a quick perusal through,i notice that everybody will have the right to be armed.What constitutes a non lethal weapon? Does this mean that both my nieghbours could be packing heat? I’ll think twice about asking him to turn the stereo down,if he’s carrying a magnum 45. Elected police chiefs? My local MP is one of Labours top arses.If the electorate voted for him,they’ll probably vote for Roscoe P Coltrane as our local sherriff. You could cross borough boundries and be in a completely different police state. To be honest,a lot of the law and order section could have been lifted straight from Dirty Dicks Posse.
          But credit where credits due,at least they are trying to change the rotten system we currently labour under,so it deserves further examination.Age brings a certain cynisism,and it’s so difficult to find a system that is fair to all,but new ideas will be the best catalyst for change.

        • 459
          i102104 Thief says:

          Or people who do not like MPs claiming £7 000 Televisions on expenses. Or 88p bath plugs

      • 410
        oldrightie says:

        According to Jimmy Snotpicker they don’t have any policies. make your bloody mind up.

      • 412
        Overseas Engineer says:

        Oh you do wind me up! I’m pissed and gave £20 earlier. If you carry on I’ll match Guidos donation just to see her get sent down

  3. 3
    GM TV says:

    Theres just too many good causes to support.
    You know, they’re still looking for that little Portugese girl – the one taken by the arabs.

    Ben Fogle for PM
    [blinks]

    • 13

      Check the freezer again, failing that the two ’scent’ dogs must have eaten her. Probably being fed on sub-standard rations due to cuts.

      Poor Maddy, to be deserted by her middle class parents is one thing, to top it off the fuckers get praised on the GMTV sofa for their ‘efforts’ to find her.

      It’s a shame the parents didn’t get the book thrown at them. They won’t of course. Anyone who abrogates their responsibility in anything is welcome in New Labour Britain (© T Bliar).

      • 17

        Oh God, this again.

        they probably didn’t do it. They were fed up with her screaming and tantrums and just wanted to f*** off and get drunk at the tapas with their mates.

        Then some bugger just got in and took the poor mite, coz’ he’d heard their ranting and screaming about how late they would be for the Tapas-date.

        This is a problem with young parents in their 30s and 40s: they have such high expectations of the pleasures of life, specially Doctors from minor “Unis”. they just shouldn’t “do children”.

        • 406
          An Interested Party says:

          Re: 17 David Davis says:
          July 15, 2009 at 6:20 pm

          Oh God, this again. they probably didn’t do it.

          There was no sign of a break-in. The forensic report stated that the Lichen around the window in Maddie’s room was undisturbed. The ONLY fingerprints to be found on the window & shutters were Kate McCann’s.

        • 418
          Anon says:

          Did the apartment only have one window?

      • 45
        Anonymous says:

        You total cock

        • 48
        • 53
          Slip the kids a mickey,and we'll go out says:

          If they had been two chavs from a council estate,they would have been crucified,but because they are “professionals”……………

        • 112
          Ssd says:

          If they were from a council estate they could have faked it for cash

        • 127
          Maddy Appeal Fund says:

          They seem to have that base covered!
          Being “Professionals” they had no need for fakery

        • 210
          Shahid Malik MP says:

          Are you suggesting that my constituents would get involved in dodgy cash transactions? We lead by example here.

    • 67

      You mean Michael Jacksons wife?

      She’s a millionaire now. Mummy and Daddy are VERY happy

  4. 4
    oldrightie says:

    Very good luck to them.

  5. 5
    COUNCIL HOUSE SCUM says:

    Can we not get legal aid ? or a crisis loan ?

  6. 6
    Mr Geoffrey Hoon MP says:

    PayPal instructed to send a small donation in the hope that if the heat stays on Jacqui, I will be able to stay under the radar for a while longer.

    Bill Quango suggested this and says he will be following suit except with an extra 0 – much like your own.

    • 149

      Of course, of course. An extra two noughts if you like.

      {I assume this is like the wreaths though Geoff?.Look good today , claim back tomorrow.}

  7. 7
    Robin Hoodie says:

    Can we apply for Yanqui TARP funding. It worked for Goldmans?

    Seriously, I am pledging £100.00 exactly. Worth every honest pound.

    I am considering another donation to the Army/Navy/Air Force Helicopter fund.

    They sound really desperate, and so in need of Choppers.

    WTF, Brown suggesting he was committing a £10bn amount to Helicopters over the next decade. He really think he will be in Power. Mwwwwaaahhhhh HHHHHaaaaa.

    • 9
      Middle Englander says:

      He should really have been spending the £10BN in the last decade, then we would have the helicopters we require now.

  8. 10
    Bof says:

    Just sent 50 quid HTH

    Might also be worth donating to http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/
    Things seem to be progressing re Obamamessiah BC issues

  9. 11
    terence molloy says:

    can you fuck raise £100,000

  10. 12

    Just heard Baroness Kinnock, (of Eurotrough.) has proposed Tony B liar as president of Europe. Should the Irish referendum go their way. I might have to put some money to one side to support those that oppose this.

  11. 14

    It’s fantastically odd but Peter Mandelson is setting a very statesmanlike lead for Labour. If Labour can capture some of that essence and become more statesmanlike as individual MP’s, I think, that sets a good lead for parliament, the media, and the country. People are demanding a new and better politics, and by driving this down to lower levels Labour will become the change it wishes for and is demanded of it. That would be quite a coup.

    I can almost feel the sweaty and twitchy fingers of the opposition and media reaching for the squeaky clean and unopened Zen books on their shelves. Machiavelli and his posturings are so yesterday. How to be so humble, gracious, and insanely cool is so very now. Well, okay. Maybe not but I bet there’s a few wondering about it.

    • 19
      Doctor Mick says:

      About as statesmanlike as Oscar Wilde.

    • 26
    • 27
      Budgie says:

      Anyone would look statesmanlike after Gordoom McDebt. But ZaNu are still quite rightly in serious trouble after trashing our economy.

    • 29
      Sir William Waad says:

      Yezhov to Brown’s Stalin.

    • 35
      Hanshan't says:

      In the joy of his enlightenment Thai Dai tattooed the bog door sutras on his back so that Yoo Hoo might read them and also become the wiser…

    • 46
      What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

      At 6:39pm on 08 Sep 2008, Charles_E_Hardwidge wrote [on Toenails blog]:

      Why is Cameron shadowing Brown although I suspect it’s to cause Brown more sleepless nights until his brain finally explodes. Looks like that point has long
      passed to be honest.[...] If the Tory shadow Home Secretary offered to pay my relocation and resettlement costs it would be tempting to vote Tory and bale out of Britain the day they got into power, but I’m not that selfish. I’ll leave it to other folks to value graft over virtue.

      [This is one of my own personal favourites from my stockpile of Hardwidgisms.]

      • 98

        You have a “stockpile” of my comments?

        Jeez, I know I’m a popular guy but you’re taking things a bit too far. You sound like that weird stalker in Alan Partridge.

        Relax, let it go.

        • 109
          Ed Banger says:

          No Charlie Boy you got it cummin

        • 125
          jgm2 says:

          It would be less of a ’stockpile’ and more a slurry pit of comments. But they are comedy gold. Accidentally funny in a David Brent kind of cringing-behind-the-fingers-oh-my-gawd-kind of way.

        • 184
          Wayne Kerr says:

          And you are Alan Partridge

          Ah HAH!!!!!

        • 334
          Freddie Fisherman says:

          Yes indeed.
          Just as Bono is the David Brent of Pop, CEW is the David Brent of Guido,s Blog.
          Lovin’ It.

    • 61
      Abolish the Licence Fee says:

      Guido, I’m not coming to the big Piss-Up if this WANKER is going to be there.

    • 96
      Doctor Mick says:

      Yezhov was a poisonous little poof but at least he was prepared to get his hands dirty (or blood spattered). Mandy gets others to do it, more like Stalin himself, in fact.

    • 207
      Greychatter says:

      To Mr. Hardwidge:

      Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

      “If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law.”

      “Any 20 year-old who isn’t a liberal doesn’t have a heart, and any 40 year-old who isn’t a conservative doesn’t have a brain.”

      Winston Churchill.

    • 395
      barefootcontessa says:

      Yes, it is fantastically odd, but that’s what mandleson is, fantastically odd.

    • 405
      Fidel X Penses says:

      Charles

      You are such a cock. An enormous, flaccid, dingleberry-encrusted lovetrumpet.

      Please don’t ever change. You bring great mirth to Guido’s readers and every time you post you make Guido a little richer.

  12. 16
    Col. M.T. Kernel (retd.) says:

    SIR- Wouldn’t it be rather less trouble to put a bullet through her bonce, sir?

    Yours, stop spiking Miss Botha’s comments or one might plant some lead in yours, sir, Col. M.T. Kernel (retd.)

    • 28
      Nigel Faberge says:

      True enough Colonel but that would be breaking the law, old boy. Some laws are there to be obeyed.
      Is that troll Ewanonny still doing the rounds? Loose cannon, imbecilic yet strangely attractive, seriously dangerous and the ‘alpha’ males on here hate her.
      Vote UKIP if you think it will do anything.

      • 40
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Ewame is a flame of marsh gas in the sewer of the world. She should be nurtured as she is a truly independent spirit.

      • 85
        Engineer says:

        Ewanme may have some odd ideas (thinks NewGirl is a hairy-arsed builder from Chingford – don’t think so, Ewanme) but she’s refreshingly different, free-thinking and not a troll. I’m a fan.

        Leave Ewanme alone.

        • 128
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          We know that’s not the case after the posterior of posterity video..!!

        • 143
          Engineer says:

          Good point…..

          Please can we have that video back, Guido?

        • 144
          Bob says:

          She does my fucking head in, man.
          If I want my mind expanded I’ll either go NHS or fly agaric.

        • 230
          Mystic Smeg says:

          Being neither quack nor scientist, but a well-respected fortune-teller, I rummaged around for my balls, polished them hard and had a good look at them.
          You may be disheartened to hear that I see a great future for Miss Botha, specifically, and this blog generally.
          I see the world splintering into sub-sets including: those that haven’t got any sense of humour (Guardian readers being a sub-set of that sub-set) and those that have; those who pray to the fairies and those that don’t; those who are totally at peace with themselves and those that are not; those that always speak the truth and those that don’t; those that seek power in order to justify their very existence and those that don’t; those that don’t care and those that do; those who are worried about where we are going, as a species, and those who couldn’t give a flying fuck.
          Well, my balls have emptied their contents once again but they did say that Ewanme has all the answers and that Guido would be the vehicle on which she would fly high.
          My balls have now faded. Smeg.

      • 99
        Doctor Mick says:

        Engineer don’t be so naive. Have you met “Newgirl” in the flesh so how can you so sure? Similarly the jury’s out on Ewanme.

        We’re all hairy arsed lorry drivers getting our lurid licks online.

  13. 22
    Jonathan Cook says:

    I have just donated a £250 fiscal stimulus.

    Perhaps the Sunlight Centre in return could organise a protest march, on the scale of the Countryside Alliance march, on behalf of everyone who wants to demonstrate against this government and in order to request an immediate general election.

  14. 33
    Budgie says:

    Worse than the straightforward fact of Jacqui’s fraud is that none of them are in prison. The net result is that ordinary law abiding people will no longer strive to be honest – “if they can get away with it, so can we” sort of thing.

    The fish rots from the head. And we have a rotten head. It needs to be cut off before it contaminates the whole nation. Thus does socialism ruin our country.

  15. 34
    boom boom boom says:

    You won’t raise $100,000. No one gives a fuck you sad obsessives.

  16. 36
    corruptionfighter says:

    The sooner that bitch is locked away, the better.

  17. 38

    In return can we expect updates on the case on their site?

  18. 39
    Grumpy Old Man says:

    Look guys. The sunlight Centre will be allowed to start the case off. If the Court considers that there is a case to answer, the CPS will take over the case, “in the public interest”. the Injustice Minister will keep tabs on the whole wretched business and ensure the case doesn’t progress. The CPS will find that there is not enough evidence to prosecute shortly after the GE. The Tories will get all the Flak. Bear in mind also that a significant proportion of the highest in the Land, (Their opinion, not mine), will have a vested interest in keeping the lid on the case.

    One has to admire the unstinting efforts of Softhead to deflect co-conspiritors from the res of the thread, but we will be strong, won’t we?

    • 66
      Some bloke says:

      Yes, the CPS may well take over the case then drop it; it’s their standard tactic. But just imagine how that would play with the great British public. The pennies might finally start to drop en masse.

    • 137
      nell says:

      Actually grumpy i think you’re wrong. The CPS will watch and see what happens. They will only seek to mount their own criminal case over if they think it is looking like this Civil one willl succeed .

      Then they will want the glory.

      I’m not too sure about my law – but I assume Sunlight are going to take the case through the Civil Court whereas if CPS did it, it would go through the Criminal Court. I also believe it’s true to say that a Civil case is easier (less rigorous) to prove.

      And I do believe we might get her this way!

      • 150
        jgm2 says:

        Civil cases have a lower burden of evidence. But then Jacqui won’t be making any evidence available. She won’t be supplying any police logs to prove her innocence.

        She may be as guilty as sin. The proof will be out there but if Sunlight can’t get their hands on it and Jacqui doesn’t volunteer it then she is home free. And second home free too.

        • 342
          Hattie Harperson says:

          But just as guilty in the court of public opinion.

        • 454
          Talwin says:

          jgm, she gets done or she doesn’t (obvious). But either way, now and as this action proceeds, for months, no matter how much she’s reassured by others, in the wee small hours perhaps, she gets to wonder….’What if? What if, no matter how unlikely, it all goes wrong? Is there a smoking gun? Will it be prison (pour decourager les autres)?’

          Sleazy Smith might even get to feel like those poor bastards who try to get their kids into a half-decent school, or who defend their property/family against feral teenage shits, or some teacher who reacts after years of intolerable baiting by the ghastly spawn of some self-righteous tosser. and get themselves nicked or locked up in the process only to spend months of sleepless nights on remand.

          As a previous regular visitor to this site used to say “Fucking delicious”. previous

      • 179
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Nell. Just for you I’ll be wrong. I’d do anything
        For You, Dear. Anything.

      • 250
        Doubting Thomas says:

        Bardirect on the previous thread argued convincingly that it would need to be a private criminal prosecution in the County Courts. An order for compensation to the public could be made on conviction.

        • 344
          Bardirect says:

          No I didn’t – I think I commented that she would be indemnified for civil liability but not for a criminal offence so its got to be a private prosecution starting in the Magistrates Court (but being an indictable offence capable of going to Crown Court and trial by jury.) (County Court being a Court with civil jurisdiction)

          A civil case is a non starter – the potential Claimant has not suffered any loss or if he has its de minimis.

          It’s Fraud Act 2006 Section 1 Fraud, in addition/alternatively false accounting Section 17 Theft Act 1968 which seems to involve some overlap with the various Fraud Act offences.

        • 430
          Doubting Thomas says:

          My apologies for misrepresenting you. Thank you for clarifying.

  19. 41
    Richard Timney an explanation says:

    I was confused, then I got hard, then accidentaly billed you all for having spunk removed from the sofa that you all payed for.
    Watching “Raw meat 3 “was all about my role as diversity consultant to my wife in her role as Home Secretary
    As a gesture of good will we have decided to charge you all a mere £800 for laundering the sock that I usually spunk into during my research
    Dick

  20. 42
    Anonymous says:

    Does the £7K include your £5K, Guido?

  21. 44
    caesars wife says:

    hacked off , the hoons are taking the piss , ed milliband is talking out of his back end on carbon capture , there is no working full size kit , wonder why they havent done it before , technology is not new , its just cheap sandwich filler . he also has to cut flying as it behaves on the atmosphere differently to ther forms of pollution : aerosol effect .

    • 70
      Carbon Capture Con-trick says:

      Hey, give the fucker a break. Labour’s got to raise money somehow to replace they dough they threw to the bankers. This scam seems as good as any.

    • 106
      Doctor Mick says:

      I’ve just come in after a frantic afternoon spraying fly killer to the four winds attempting to bring on global warming. It’s the height of summer and it’s still fucking cold and wet.

      Sometimes I think I was on the wrong side of the miners strike and should have stood behind the braziers and barricades with Scargill and the Fossilburners. I know we’d all be speaking Russian now but at least we’d be warm.

    • 120
      grobdj says:

      taxing gas is just the beginning, but the atmosphere is only 0.25% carbon dioxide

      won’t be long before ZanuLab realises that, at 20% of air, oxygen will raise much more money, and we all need it

  22. 47
    Sir William Waad says:

    Guido, is it true that the Sunlight Centre is just you with a different, less pointy hat on?

  23. 49
    streamfisher says:

    The Sunlight centre sounds suspiciously like a kindergarten. Better send your money to the: How much longer do we have to put up with these bastards, time to fix bayonets and if they still refuse to budge give them a good prodding …
    Society. They don’t like it up em.

  24. 51
    Technomist says:

    Isn’t this what we pay taxes for?

  25. 57
    Derek says:

    Just sent a small donation, I hope the bitch suffers

  26. 60
    Ain't tellin' says:

    Technomist. No, we pay our taxes so that NuLabias ‘clients’ can sit on their fat arses all day long.

    I’d donate a quid but Holby wants it over at his gaff.

  27. 65

    Any entity that loses touch with the centre is doomed to fail, so the pro-Tory comments in here are just a bunch of zealots talking to themselves. Camerons bullying at PMQ’s has encouraged the wannabes, and that’s something he has to accept responsibility for.

    It’s clear to me the Tories have no forward thinking policies or sense of social fairness, and their leaders and friends and allies remain unfit for power. Indeed, I believe the revolution Labour can unfold will both shock and shame them. I hope so because their perfomance is pitiful to watch.

    • 71
      What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

      Most trolls I’ve run into are frustrated or lack social skills, and have a pathologically
      inflated sense of their own worth. The tiny hardcore (about 1%) never change. If they acted like that in the real world they’d be in jail or mental hospital.
      Charles Hardwidge @ 11:31 pm, Mon 27th Apr 2009 on LabourList

      [Ah, self-awareness dawns....]

    • 75
      society for plain english says:

      I fear your attempts at satire are too sophisticated and you try too many flights over the cuckoos nest.

    • 76

      Perception lags reality, so the mere technicians spin their wheels and wave their arms, but the master is already ahead of the game and has won before the first shot is fired. If I may paraphrase the unexpectedly statesmanlike Peter Mandelson, I’m insanely relaxed about the next general election. Not arrogantly, but reverently in respect of realities.

      BTW I hope you’re having fun trawling through my comments! Jeez, you need a girlfriend.

      • 94
        Cjamesk says:

        You need to get laid.

      • 115
        Alibarbs says:

        you need to learn how to read and use a computer properly if you think it takes a long time to flick through a few pages of blog comments charlieboy!

      • 122
        What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

        Speaking as the guy who first came up with the phrase “Broken Britain”, I agree, there’s a lot that needs fixing. But, the Tories have just hijacked a slogan without having a real clue about what’s behind it. I’ll be generous and throw them a bone: take a look in the mirror. Hey, never said they’d like it.

        Charles Hardwidge @ 11:35 am, Fri 20th Feb 2009 on LabourList

      • 123
        What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

        Will you be my girlfriend, Charles?

      • 355
        Zed says:

        CEH complains after every posting.
        The king of cun .n. paste hates the cut .n. paste responses.
        You have him wriggling.
        Please keep us posted on the previous comedy cuts.
        Simply entertainment.

    • 84
      Paul Mefinga says:

      I think that you are misguided in your assertions by the fact that all the main political parties are in it together.
      We are run by a small group of political elite who take their orders from Europe.
      All the political knockabout is just to fool us into thinking that we have our own democratic government.

    • 97
      Budgie says:

      What on earth are “forward thinking policies”?

      What about: close down all local authority and national education departs, sack all the employees. All schools to be independent non-profit making trusts, run by the elected non-paid governors. Governors appoint the head and a bursar. Head and senior teachers appoint new teachers. All pupils’ parents receive a voucher, value to be decided by a new education ministry which consists of the Minister, accountable to parliament, about a dozen assistants and an inspectorate of about 30. Result: education free of politics.

      How about that for a “forward thinking policy”?

      • 130
        jgm2 says:

        That will never catch on. How are the socialists going to poison young minds if they can’t what history and literature they are exposed to. And how it should be ‘correctly’ interpreted?

        You’d have people thinking all sorts of things. Coming up with all kinds of ideas.

        Plus there would be half a million smock-wearing, shell-necklace toting, sandal-clad busybodies without a job or anything to stick their fucking big noses into.

      • 134

        Here’s an even better idea.

        Loan parents the money to educate their little “darlings”.

        Polluter pays.

      • 217
        Darcy says:

        Love it, I thank you, my family thank you, and the rest of this Island thanks you.

    • 357
      Angry Voter says:

      Fuck you too.

  28. 72
    Brian E. says:

    Why can’t the Metropolitan police be forced to provide details of when and where they provided her police guard. After all, the Home Secretary is one of the few MPs who is watched by the police 24/7.

    • 81
      Sick of the lot of them says:

      That fat, useless pile of shit needs to be watched 24/7 by the fuzz alright, but not for the same reason as she thinks.

    • 86
      councilhousetory says:

      Forced by who? Until it gets in front of a jury there is nothing anyone can do, as all those with influence are new labour placeman.

    • 87
      streamfisher says:

      This lot give a new meaning to the term watched 24/7 by the Police, maybe electronic tagging for M.Ps, and Peers is the solution.

      • 95
        streamfisher says:

        That way we might be able to say: I know where you live (where you really, really live!)

    • 371
      Kakerlakk says:

      Wankwatch.

  29. 73

    Donation is already on the way and, as a fellow member of Sunlight Centre for Open Politics, I will also be doing a post asking for donations.

    Bring it on!

  30. 80
    1st Time Blogger says:

    £20 Sent!!

  31. 82
    nell says:

    One of Jacqui’s last act’s as Home Office Minister has been the introduction of the Independent Safeguardung Authority.

    It seems to be taking over from the CRB on the vetting of people who ” have even a tiny amount of contact with children”

    Richard Thomas Information Commission until last month , lambasted the proposal because the ISA was being allowed to base decisions on a person’s suitability to work with children on ” allegations, rumours and speculation” , not just proven records.

    It could, he predicted, damage innocent people financially and socially and ruin careers.

    • 102
      Engineer says:

      That’s vile. Any malicious individual can spread unfounded rumours about somebody else. To have those enshrined in official documents is an injustice. Ergo, this outfit is unBritish. It should go. Next government take note, please.

    • 121
      resurgemus says:

      Better not tell tham about Master Baiter

    • 170
      STASI operative says:

      you English are such stupid kunts

  32. 89

    My award-winning research into graphics fidelity taught me that confidence, strategic direction and planning for the long-term is the way to achieve balance and get things done. Did it work? Well, I was a Sunday Times inventor of the year so I’ll let you be the judge of that.

    Jeez, instead of moaning get up off your ass and make the world a better place.

    • 100
      Doctor Mick says:

      The World is so much better thanks to “Graphics Fidelity” woteva that is, so from the bottom of my wallet I thank you. And for being carbon neutral. In the brain department.

      • 103
        Engineer says:

        That’s not “Carbon Neutral”, that’s just “Neutral”. The engine is revving madly, but the wheels are not turning.

        • 107
          nell says:

          I have a lawnmower that does that . Never worked out why – something to do with a missing part I think.

        • 111
          Doctor Mick says:

          The lights are on, but nobody’s at home.

          I know the sort.

        • 118
          nell says:

          Ee used to have an expression in our office ” your mouth is in action but your brain is not in gear”

          Seems to fit here for charlie.

        • 124
          nell says:

          What happens to my spelling on this blog? I meant “We”

        • 138
          Engineer says:

          Charlie is a bit like Nell’s lawnmower; noisy, polluting, frustrating and consuming of useful fuel, but ultimately unproductive.

          It’s been said before but I suppose it bears repeating; does wonders for Guido’s stats, though!

    • 110
      Jethro says:

      Shot right between your eyes.
      There: that’s made the world a better place!

      • 133
        jgm2 says:

        Charles is a Tory plant. I have recently been made aware of Poe’s law – essentially that no spoof is so outrageous that some folk won’t take it seriously. Which is why folk consistently waste time replying to his many mindless idiocies.

        Charles is a five-star piss-taking spoof/troll. I’m pretty certain he’s working for the Tories to discredit the idiocy at the heart of Labour.

        Because nobody could be that stupid and still operate a computer.

        • 136
          Engineer says:

          Teenagers?

        • 142
          jgm2 says:

          Naaah. Spelling is reasonably consistent. It’s bollocks but not teenage angst bollocks. It’s authentic NuLab – Shakesperian even ‘a tale of sound and fury signifying nothing’ [Macbeth], biblical too – ‘a sounding gong or a clanging cymbal’ – [Corinthians 13].

          Meaningless shit. Airwave filler. Brownian time-killer-speak.

          But a troll nonetheless.

        • 169
          NewGirl says:

          I agree with jgm2. He’s definitely spoofing. His comments are hilarious at times. Like saying the other day that Labour had saved the world because everyone had a flat screen telly.

        • 195
          What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

          Unless Guido is in the habit of insulting himself in public and then replying, I somehow doubt it.

          No need to imagine what Guido would do, Guido did him [...] Just as Guido did Conway and Spelman. That is why my blog is so successful. It goes after them all.
          Guido Fawkes @ 11:27 pm, Thu 19th Feb 2009

          Your blog isn’t successful. It’s niche. Nobody takes it seriously.
          Charles Hardwidge @ 11:03 am, Fri 20th Feb 2009

        • 198
          What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

          Ooops. meant to be a reply to 173.

      • 178
        Anonymous Misogynist says:

        I always thought he was working for Guido..

        • 189
          NewGirl says:

          Praps he is Guido…

        • 194
          Clockwatcher says:

          Noticeable, that when Charles clocks off,TaT,clocks on!

        • 204
          NewGirl says:

          A TAT with multiple personality disorder aswell as all his other disorders. How horrific.

        • 215
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          191, I said working for not is..!

        • 258
          Anonymous says:

          Is Guido able to read IP addresses of posters? Does he know who everyone is? How many gits travel under more than one passport? I,of course,wear my heart on my sleeve,but i’m not sure of others.

      • 212
        NewGirl says:

        P there’sno way he’s for real. He’s hilarious. Maybe Ricky Gervais in disguise.

        • 233
          What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

          I fear he is for real.

          “Chumming Ian Dale and promoting [Guido] while I’m being libelled on Guido was the last straw. I’ve got stuff I need to do, and am picking up photography again which will soak up spare time. That’s more interesting to me than being an unpaid set of trainer wheels [for LabourList].
          Charles Hardwidge @ 6:16 pm, Thu 4th Jun 2009″

          Now own up, who’s been libelling him? Nobody goes home until someone tells the truth.

        • 235
          NewGirl says:

          No libel on here, its all fair comment or completely accurate…

        • 247
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          TaT’s not Hardwidge or vicky verky, could be MB though..??

        • 253
          NewGirl says:

          Ty are both equally boring, but MB doesn’t have the humour…..

    • 131
      grobdj says:

      How the hell did you win the ‘Inventor of the Year so long as you’re not a gentile Competition?’

    • 158
      What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

      Steve Tierney @ 2:54 pm, Thu 30th Apr 2009 on LabourList:
      As irritating as I find you, Charles, LabourList could do worse than making you the new editor of the site. You’re clearly passionate, why not email them and apply
      for the job? You’re certainly here enough to merit it.
      Half the comments are you!

      Reply to this comment, Charles Hardwidge @ 3:16 pm, Thu 30th Apr 2009.
      It’s crossed my mind more than once but I’m not a member of Labour and don’t need the hassle. They have my pitch and know how things would change around here. If anyone was interested we could talk but I’m not looking for it.

      • 461
        Member of a rapidly shrinking minority says:

        I haven’t got a flat screen telly :(

        I’m so DISADVANTAGED

  33. 91
    Hardwidget's nursey says:

    Had a dreadful day. He insisted on watching PMQs. The minute his beloved leader was on screen, out came his red raw, tortured, flayed weener, his right hand just a blur as he pounded it ever more quickly. This time I was prepared for the “spray”, covering myself in a decorator’s plastic sheet.

    But that still didn’t protect me from the terrible sight of his contorted money-shot face, and the horrendous groaning and gurgling that accompanies it. Try to imagine, if you will, a ventriloquist dummy from a horror film with a fixed, manic grin, and it’s eyes rolling. That’s what it’s like.

    I’ve dosed him up on diazapam, but he’s getting rampant again so I may have to apply the special “restraining straps” tonight. His poor weener needs a rest. It’s red raw, it looks like a wrinkled, pink chipolata with sunburn blisters. I’ve given him the ointment but he wants me to apply it, even though I wear welding gloves to do it.

    Have some pity on the poor man. He can’t help himself. I’m doing my best.

  34. 105
    Moley says:

    What happened to the Daily Mail campaign money and the action proposed by the Taxpayer’s Alliance?

    I thought that there had already been one attempt at a private prosecution of Smith and it fizzled out; anyone have more information?

    Will the Conservatives promise us prosecutions of the guilty if they are elected, or do they have too many crooks themselves?

    (Moley thinks the answer to that last question is a firm YES.)

    • 140
      streamfisher says:

      They do have too many crooks themselves, the Palace of Westminster when push comes to shove is the best trade union in the World and haven’t they done well for themselves?, old and hackneyed cliché but appropriate..Turkeys don’t vote for Christmas.

  35. 116
    The Beast Of Clerkenwell says:

    FUCK THAT
    I want to see the fat titted thief giveving a well endowed coloured gentleman a good long soapy tit wank.
    But i dont want her husband to charge it to my nonexistent tax bill

    • 209
      PT Barnum says:

      You need help. Seriously. That is simply not normal. Or even abnormal. It’s just…wrong.

      • 468
        thick as thieves says:

        it is so wrong it is right.
        I am with the beast of berkwell on this one.
        NOTE TO JACQUI SMITH: SOAPY TIT WANKS ALL ROUND YOU SLUT!
        PLEASE!

  36. 126
    Oh No not Charles E Hardwidge Again says:

    In the overall scheme of things, passion and fidelity are things of the past – what, matters is how much money you can shaft out of taxpayers before they notice. Whilst everyone else on the world is a total useless tosser surviving on the crumbs of their forlorn self-endeavours, I Charles E Hardwidge have learned that the route to true happiness is to draw a fat salary from the generous udder of Whitehall, to stand aloft on the roof and throw brickbats at the plebs down below whilst simultaneously keeping my tongue down the back of my master’s trousers

  37. 139
    jgm2 says:

    The problem Labour has is that having so politicised the civil service, courts, speakers office, attorney general, BBC etc etc they now run the risk of being on the receiving end of a massive purge followed by the iinjustices of a similarly politicised infrastructure working for theTories.

    Embarrassing leaks can now be pursued by a politicised police. Embarrassing MPs can be raided by a politicised police. Tory ministers will be able to dispense titles and largesse without fear of prosecution.

    Labour has reduced us to a banana republic administration. Their short-term idiocy and desire for change-and-be-damned has created a monster that they can no longer control.

    You had better hope that Cameron does the honourable thing and simply settles for a neutral police worce, judiciary, speaker, attorney general, BBC. Because if not his revenge on Labour will be most horrible and I, for one, could hardly blame him.

    This government is the most evil and repressive regime since 1066.

    • 147
      Let an MP without expenses cast the first slur says:

      They will be content to settle into the armchair of power. Labour will be a busted flush anyway,and in the dance that is Westminster politics,they will need an opposition to point to and laugh,much as Labour has done for the last twelve years.Don’t forget,they have more in common with each other,than with you or i.

    • 151
      grobdj says:

      I blogged similarly last night. Civil service contracts of employment require the employee to carry out their duties in an apolitical manner. This clause is easily enforced, example, the lady who recently lost her job for complaining about Hazel Blears

      • 155
        jgm2 says:

        Maybe. But it can only be enforced by the party in power. Where is the proof that McBride sleeps with a P45?

        Word is he’s lying low on full pay and still feeding poison.

        • 208
          grobdj says:

          Point taken. But such is the power of a change of Government. The people of whom you speak are, after all just ugly actors, and will dance the tune of the day. It will be amusing to watch

          And though Brown clings to the notion that he is bringing the country back from the abyss (not correct, it is we citizens who are adapting to the changed conditions), he is a doomed as Churchill was after the war

          After difficult times, people want to look forward, not back

        • 223
          jgm2 says:

          We haven’t had the difficult times yet. This is the calm before the storm. The difficult times will come when we have to pay back the 200bn quid Brown will need to borrow this year just to make the payroll. That’ll be a 20% cut in public service pay, a 20% cut in public service employees or a 20% rise in everybodies income tax.

          And Labour will be there supporting their union paymaster, badmouthing the Tories who have to take these tough decisions. Strikes. Job losses. The works. And the evil, disingenuous Labour apparatchiks all agitating away, delighted at the fucking social unrest and turmoil they created with a trillion borrowed pounds. Because it means thatheir turn will come around that much more quickly the more shit and resentment they can stir up.

        • 278
          I am proud to have served myself for 25 years says:

          Hey! Thats politics.

        • 382
          Zed says:

          ~223 Jgm.
          Perfect summary.
          Can we add rampaging inflation as the currency is ruined as they keep borrowing to pay for the public debt ?
          At the last moment they realise they need to back off the promises of full pay and cast iron pensions for the civil servants after the wealth producers can;t provide the support having been hobbled for a decade or more.
          Do we start now .. or just after the GE next summer.
          The firestorm has yet to ignite.
          “Green Shoots” indeed.

    • 152
      Engineer says:

      Not sure about 1066 – some of Cromwell’s minions could be a bit nowty – Witchfinder Generals and all that, and Henry VIII had his moments.

      The general point is fair comment, though. Getting the politicisation out of the system might take some time. There’s a Metropolitan liberal ‘elite’ that has it’s tentacles wrapped firmly round the neck of democracy; hacking them away might be a bit bloody. Necessary, but bloody.

      • 164
        jgm2 says:

        Fair enough. Most evil and repressive since Cromwell. Both of them truly believed in their black hearts that they were doing it for our own good. And Cromwell,having convinced himself he was doing it for our own good then sought to do away with elections and have his son crowned ‘king’.

        In all seriousness I fully expect Brown to engineer a similar imperative to do away with the tedium and uncertainty of elections now that we are so fortunate to have finally discovered such a capable leader. Himself.

        • 174
          Engineer says:

          Strewth – that’s a point. Almost wish I hadn’t mentioned Cromwell now…

        • 181
          jgm2 says:

          Oh aye. Forgot about the ‘cost’ of elections. Wouldn’t want to waste money on elections now we have the ‘right’ man in place eh?

        • 188
          Viv Nicholson says:

          Perhaps,like Tony and Peter,he sees a future reward in the EU. Do they have a treasurer? What a sweet revenge. Brown with his hands on Euro cash. How long would it take him to piss that lot up the wall.

    • 154
      grobdj says:

      I meant to add – It’s surprising what people will do to keep their job

    • 157
      resurgemus says:

      Given the current lot have trashed every convention of UK politics, Cameron needs to reverse all the shit legioslation, clean the bureaucracy and then introduce a written constitution.

      While I have no great desire for legal mumbo jumbo, the fact is the citizens will need protections put in place which the executive must respect. eg they can’t just legislate us into Europe without a vote.

      More work for sodding loyers , but the current constitutional arrangement is looking stretched because we’ve passed the house to a group of drunken teenagers and they’ve wrecked it.

      • 282
        Natural Gas says:

        Cameron could’nt reverse a fart!

        • 289
          Engineer says:

          Reversing a fart? That’s a blow-back, isn’t it? Very nasty taste in the back of the throat…

          And for heaven’s sake, don’t set light to it….

  38. 141
    Engineer says:

    I’ve been thinking.

    Through all the revelations about troughing, I don’t recall much reference to MPs claiming for holidays. (Vague recollections of the odd one or two).

    Does this mean that the annual lounge in the sun is the only thing MPs pay for out of their salaries?

    • 159
      Kiss Me Quick says:

      They still claimed exes,even when on recess! Boils down to the same thing.

    • 200
      nell says:

      2nd homes as in holiday homes?

      That Luton horror lady even tried to terrorise the neighbours of her spanish villa by using HoC letter headed paper. Could she have afforded a holiday villa without her MP’s job? And what about her southampton home? – was that her 2nd or 3rd home? What was she before she became elected?

      And let’s not forget BaronessU’s marble palace in bangladesh and the maidstone flat – both paid for by taxpayers money. Or did she fund both from her menial job in social services before she became a lord?

      mandy’s beautiful homes – paid by the taxpayers? As an aside where did he work before he moved into parliament?

      the keens lovely westminster apartment – their 2nd home – their main one currently being occupied by squatters – keep up the good work.

    • 438
      Prospective candidate for EU presidency says:

      I always stay with friends but I do make (tax deductible) charitable donations.

    • 448
      The UK is becoming East Germany circa 1976 says:

      Don’t they hide their holidays in travel expenses and “fact finding” missions?

  39. 148
    big jaq's nick nacks says:

    i haven’t heard the phrase “back scuttle” for ages

  40. 153
    nell says:

    O/T sorry just for a minute ..

    mandy and ed militwit launched their half-baked strategy for the “Green Revolution” today.

    In 10 years time, they say, 1.2 million of us are going to be employed in new “green” jobs.

    Ironically , tomorrow, Britain’s biggest wind turbine factor on the Isle of Wight is closing – making 600 people redundant.

    Well done!!! mandy and ed – I don’t believe m*rcambe and wise could have been funnier

    • 166
      Brown Fingers says:

      “Green” jobs could mean pushing up the daisies.

    • 167
      resurgemus says:

      yep saw this this morning.

      All the green jobs and they fall at the first hurdle.

      Worse thing is it is needless as the Vestas factory exports to USA but needs a cahnge in UK regulations to match UK standard and Ed Milipede and Mandy’s lot are n’t prepared to budge.

      I somehow cant see the govt acting the same way in Germany or France

    • 172
      Watt Tyler says:

      The whole thing behind wind turnbine power generation is the EU. We have to have a big percentage (can’t remember how much exactly) of our power genarated by renewable sources by 2020 in order to fall in line with EU directives. Unfortunately, it will be cripplingly expensive.

      McTw*t et al being co-conspiritors with the EU against the British people, love this stuff

    • 175
      jgm2 says:

      If 1.2 million of us are ‘emploed’ in green jobs it will only be because some imbecile government has ‘created’ 1.2 million jobs in the same way that Labour since 2001 has ‘created’ 1 million new public service workers.

      There is no demand for ‘green’ products. Global warming (man-made) is a load of shit foisted upon us by Al Gore and fuckwitted, mathematically unfamiliar geographers. And BBC liberal arts bedwetters who wouldn’t know a log graph from a fucking log cabin or a Yule log.

      • 291
        Dr Feelgood says:

        The only ‘green’ jobs we can expect might be subsistence agriculture.

      • 396
        Zed says:

        Carbon increases follow a (natural) increase in cyclical global temperature, not the opposite.
        Don’t let a good story get in the way of truth now, the bogeyman needs to be feared and if you keep coughing up the tax then he’ll stay away.
        Remember AIDS anyone – the constant TV Adverts and the medical certainty that there would only be 14 souls left alive in the UK by this time next Thursday ?
        I Believe. I Believe.

    • 177
      grobdj says:

      whenever you see a wind turbine, just remember the firm that operates it has a cert off the Government which pays them more than the going rate for the units the turbine injects into the National Grid

      i.e. the wind turbine is subsidised by the taxes that your children will pay (since at the moment our taxes are less than the Government spends)

      Reading between the lines, Ed Miliband is saying today that such ‘green’ subsidies will in future be collected through your energy bill, rather than from general taxation,

    • 187
      streamfisher says:

      My take on it was that the mentalists had dreamed up another scheme whereby we see utility bills rocketing again to pay for someone who puts up a windmill in their back garden producing 1/2 a Kilowatt which will cost £50,000 pounds in infrastructure to link it to the national grid. Seen a lot of stuff from New Labour recently, strange how it all applies to the future, a future without New Labour, God willing.

      • 205
        Pork and HP sauce says:

        I’m up for burning fossil fuels.

        • 224
          streamfisher says:

          If you drive a Car, get a Taxi or hop on a Bus you are. Never seen a member of Parliament going to ‘work’ on a windmill.

        • 299
          Augeas says:

          Typical useless sneering illogical Zanu/Green response, Mr Pig. We do need an alternative to oil and gas, but wind power isn’t it, and not driving a car makes sod all difference. And it’s not because of idiot mathematical models (uncannily similar to the banking risk management models) supposedly proving the CO2/Global warming theory, it’s because the stuff will run out and only mad Islamists and Russian tyrants will have access to it.

        • 327
          Sexually Gratified Arsonist says:

          646 Fossils would make quite a blaze

      • 306
        Susie says:

        And has to cut down every tree in 100 yards radius… that’s not very green is it?

    • 239
      Engineer says:

      Did hear a whisper some weeks ago from someone in the industry that the government was considering classifying nuclear-generated electricity as renewable. It’s pushing the definition a bit (though carbon dioxide emissions from nuclear stations are low), but it’s about the only way they could reach this daft ‘renewable by 2020′ target. Even then, they’d have to get a bit of a wiggle on building nuclear stations.

      • 254
        jgm2 says:

        Labour will content themselves with screaming from the opposition benches about how the evil Tories are destroying the planet and not meeting the 20% commitment.

        Same as they’ll scream abot the inevitable cuts and tax rises and unemployment.

        Pure fucking scum that they are.

      • 265
        Engineer says:

        The practicalities just don’t seem to enter the political debate when it comes to power generation, do they?

        Mind you, practicalities and Nulab are not noted bedfellows in any area of policy…

        • 277
          jgm2 says:

          They’ll just print up some electricity. Same as they are printing 150bn quid. Same as they printed 2 million extra disability claimants/degree certificates/disabled carer positions/million bedwetters and box tickers to hide 2 million folk from the dole queues.

          We’ll be huddled around a candle for warmth and they’ll be proclaiming that electricty generation is up and global warming is down.

        • 286
          Engineer says:

          I don’t want to sound rude, but Oh God is that depressing. Trouble is, it’s true as well.

          Hmmm….only one conclusion isn’t there? Election, please…

        • 469
          thick as thieves says:

          yes, quite engineer, a general election.
          oh hold on, er, the tories haven’t got a manifesto.
          so engineer, as you boast about knowing so many people, why don’t you fuck off and tell dave to pull his smelly finger out of his eton arsehole and knock up a manifesto sharpish.
          you pillock engineer, a tory calling for an election when you have no manifesto to campaign on?
          you fucking cripple.
          what an idiot.

    • 317
      Dr Feelgood says:

      The only sensible proposal for energy I’ve seen this week is the Destertec initiative for solar power:
      http://www.desertec.org/en/press/press-releases/090713-01-assembly-desertec-industrial-initiative/

      A large-scale technology solution showing vision and professionalism – needless to say, no UK involvement…

      All this pissing about with domestic windmills and so on is a waste of time. Labour have shilly-shallied on energy policy for too long – within a few years the lights will be going out.

      • 353
        Engineer says:

        So then we’d be under the thumb of the Russians and Middle East for the gas, and the North Africans for the Solar (assuming anyone can build a viable transmission line that long).

        Short to medium term – Nuclear and high-efficiency coal. Some gas for coping with surges in demand. Lots of effort on energy efficiency.

        Long term – Possibly nuclear fusion (if anybody can make it a commercial reality). Lots of home-based renewables – biomass, hydro micro and macro, wind, tide, etc. Self reliance as far as possible. But it will make electricity cost more. Get used to it.

        • 415
          Dr Feelgood says:

          To clarify, I believe this desert solar project is only looking at providing 15% of European energy, and would use about 20 DC links (which reduces the line loss). It makes sense as part of the mix – relatively close and an infinite resource for all practical purposes. If anyone can crack super-conductivity that would help enormously too.

          Totally agree with the rest, and that we need to be independent of Russia and ME. Diversity of source is key. Fusion would be fantastic – He3 from the moon might help – zero chance of UK getting involved with anything like that!

          Meanwhile in England, we’ll be grubbing around like medieval peasants in the dark…

        • 433
          Fast Breeders Are The Way Forward says:

          Fast breeder reactors are the best way forward. Nuclear fusion on a commercial scale is a pipe dream. Physicists/engineers have been at it for 60 years to no avail. Hydro should also be part of the mix (for surges in demand).

          We should follow the French and aim to have at least 80% of our electricity from nuclear ASAP.

          That still leaves us dependent on foreign powers for our petrol.

          When the oil runs out, the only viable alternative liquid fuel to petrol is ethanol. You can’t have electric tractors, combine harvesters or planes. Trains and cars can use electricity and container ships can be fitted with nuclear reactors. The aeroplane sadly will become a thing of the past as the oil runs out.

        • 445
          Toby says:

          erm… geothermal power?!

          covered in basic GCSE Geography under ‘renewables’ but completely forgotten about. cheaper than the gastly and massivily expensive wind, wave and tidal power platforms. and as we lack any serious mountain lakes we can’t do hydro, ditto the sun.

          Southampton has still got the uks biggest, the new Ordnance Survey HQ will be powered by a geothermal turbine, meaning it be self sufficient and even make money contributing to the grid.

  41. 156
    eddie foster says:

    love to help – tried donating a ton, but paypal is a total pain in the arse. perfectly valid mastercard transaction refused for all sorts of silly, unexplained reasons. Sorry!

  42. 161
    NewGirl says:

    OT soz but is anyone joining Guio for a pint tomoz?

    • 162
      NewGirl says:

      Sorry, that should have been “Guido”!

    • 171

      I am sweetheart. Let’s go out for an Italian afterwards, just you and me.

      • 180
        NewGirl says:

        I think I’ll let you bore the Italian all by yourself Charles.

      • 218
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Careful what you agree to, New Girl. What will you be expected to do while Charles has his Italian?

      • 225
        What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

        Charles, I thought you were my girlfriend! Stop hitting on other people. NOW.

    • 182
      Engineer says:

      I’ll only go if the venue is The Guido Arms.

      • 185
        NewGirl says:

        Course it will be! Tat already barred.

        • 347
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          Why Not..??

        • 470
          thick as thieves says:

          get your facts straight new girl.
          I was not barred I was grounded.
          for nicking fifty quid out my mum’s purse.
          got it?
          fucker, now fuck off.

      • 192
        Engineer says:

        And Hardwidge has already grabbed his stool, I see. Everyone else in the other bar….

        • 199
          NewGirl says:

          You going Eng?

        • 203
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          Careful with your words Engineer, Mark Oaten will be along soon.

        • 211
          Engineer says:

          Assuming the venue is in London, it’s a bit of a hike from my part of the world (Cheshire), however interesting the likely guest list. So no, with some regret, not this time.

        • 213
          nell says:

          NewGirl I’m hoping you are going to go and then tell me about it later….

          I can’t hack London. Too old and hate the place.

          Please have a glass of something for me and toast Guido. He’s done a grand job this year.

          Having said that it would be lovely to meet some of the people on here – or maybe that would destroy the mystery …………………………….

        • 216
          NewGirl says:

          Right. So that’s Hardwidge, me and Guido. What a night. And I’ll probably be mugged by Tat in a dark alley after. If I disappear, it was definitely him.

        • 221
          Engineer says:

          You might be safe. Have a read of last night’s thread. TaT pulled late on – think that’s why it’s quiet tonight. Mind you, he ran amok earlier…

        • 222

          Hey, wait til you see my party trick. No woman has been able to resist me after seeing that.

        • 227
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          Yeah boring Graphics Fidelity shite..!!

        • 232
          NewGirl says:

          D’t worry Misog. As I’m a 45 year old male lesbian, I’m probably safe.

        • 237
          TaTs Top Totty says:

          You have’nt seen TaTs Girlfriend yet.

        • 238
          thick as thieves says:

          GODDAMN TUPENCE LICKERS
          you fucking hoons
          GuidoafOrcs is laughing at you

        • 240
          NewGirl says:

          whereas he’s laughing WITH you???

        • 245
          Engineer says:

          Hello, TaT. Had a good day?

        • 246
          NewGirl says:

          WTF is a Tupence licker, anyway? speak English. You as bad as Hardwedge.

        • 248

          Jeez, what a load of dreg. Thick as Thieves, you’re the worst troll I’ve ever seen.

          Personally, I’d rather see a focus on solutions. Business is too much of a cottage industry, and folks are too caught up in small time wheeling and dealing. Britain needs world class products, more loyalty instead of hiring and firing, and not getting a dose of the jitters when the wagon rolls over a grain of sand. Do that and in 20 years the UK will be a powerhouse.

        • 252
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          NewGirl, you know how you spend a penny? Then you know how you spend tupence..!!

        • 256
          NewGirl says:

          NIce…..utterly incomprehensible as an insult, but I expect no better from the juvenile Tat…

        • 262
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          The juvenile Master Baiter, I bet..!

        • 263

          A tuppence licker is a lady who “drinks from the furry cup.” Come on NewGirl, use your imagination.

          Anyway – the economic blip can help folks reflect and refocus. Mind is the root of all things. Have faith and a little sacrifice won’t seem so scary after all. Enlightenment has never been so easy. Why fight it?

          Let go. Be happy. Vote Labour. :-)

        • 267

          The economic blip can help folks reflect and refocus. Mind is the root of all things. Have faith and a little sacrifice won’t seem so scary after all. Enlightenment has never been so easy. Why fight it?

          Let go. Be happy. Vote Labour. :-)

        • 268

          BTW a “tupence licker” is a lesbian. Come on people, raise the bar. A little effort is all it takes. Perhaps you’d like to think about that.

        • 273
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          He slips up sometimes, like today when he changed from MB to George Osborne, eer stop messin about, oops. and tonight with GuidoafOrcs…???

        • 276
          NewGirl says:

          Bloody hell. Is Tat same as MB AND Hardwedge? He must be exhausted. And unemployed. And unemployable. The mind boggles.

        • 281
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          He’s first to post nearly all the time and of course he talks to himself. now he’s got a gilfriend? WTF?

        • 284
          Engineer says:

          That, and seriously sad. I enjoy a bit of blogging, but not all day every day. Still have to earn a crust sometime.

        • 294
          Matt don't vote for labour says:

          I WOULD GO BUT IT AINT MY SCENE DOWN AT WESTMINISTER THEY WON’T LET YOOF’S IN WITHOUT FRAMING ME FOR A CRIME OR THE POOFTERS TRYING TO BUY DRUGS OF ME.

          HAVE A GOOD TIME EVERYONE THOUGH.

        • 297
          Where do i begin? says:

          That was’nt TaT,just a wannabee. The real Tat is even now in his best whistle,scrubbed,perfumed, probably on one knee with his posie,asking for the fair maidens hand in wedlock.
          But Shazza,all eighteen stone of lambrini and red bull top,is playing hard to get,concerned at wether he would make a good father to her rainbow nation family.Think Katie and Peter minus the fame and money.

        • 308
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          Where do i begin.. Is that you MB..??

        • 309
          Engineer says:

          And looks…

        • 321
          Steve Expat says:

          Ah – it’s another one of those really long but totally pointless threads…..

        • 333
        • 337
          Boring says:

          They’re usually the funniest.

        • 338
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          Steve I’m intrigued, what’s Goates???

        • 341
          Still in Therapy says:

          Don’t! Just don’t!

        • 352
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          So tell me why..?

        • 365
          Rubber Gloves? says:

          You know the fable of opening Pandora’s box.
          Well it’s similar in a medical paradox.

        • 379
          Steve Expat says:

          post 365 above for more info on Goatse -it’s certainly Pandora’s box though, be warned.

          There are two groups – those that haven’t seen it and those that wish they hadn’t…

        • 392
          One pillar of wisdoms enough says:

          Steve Expat’s seen it. Why do you think he fucked off to Mecca?

        • 399
          Steve Expat says:

          Unfortunately so!! The link I posted is definitely safe but you really don’t want to go looking for it elsewhere unless you’ve been to medical school and are completely unshockable as a result…

          I’m not quite in Mecca but it’s close enough thanks (in the UK at the moment as it happens, first time in a year. Shame it’s the wrong part of the UK for Guido’s pissup tomorrow)

        • 471
          thick as thieves says:

          dear, dear fans,
          we are gathered here today to give praise to the original, (not the fake 9.58 arsehole fuck off wanker) but to one and only, the real thick as thieves.
          a hero who is so many things to so many people.
          long may he be TOP BOY!
          AFUCKINGMEN.
          oh, I think masterbaiter and charles hardwidge should be hanged.
          and to prove I am not them I am willing to be the hangman.
          well, I couldn’t be in two places at the same time now could I?

  43. 163
    the dinner lady is innocent says:

    free the Fivebellies One!

  44. 168

    I’ve been around enough to know flags being run up poles and desk jocky slacktivism when I see it. It’s all illusion and commenting on it just gives it power it doesn’t deserve. You say you want change but you don’t have the stones.

  45. 186
    Gazza says:

    what’s all this about Fivebellies getting banged up?

  46. 196
    Kevin Turvey says:

    leave her alone. anyone who attacks our Jacqui attacks Redditch.

  47. 214
    jgm2 says:

    Naughty naughty Nick.

    Yet again a full generation of anti-Tory hatred fostered by Labour in their traditionally strong areas forces forces the electorate into the hands of national extremists. First Scotland, now the North East. Can Wales be far behind.

    Nice one Blair, Brown, Straw, Blunkett et al.

    May you rot in eternal damnation. Be sure that history will damn you to hell.

    • 226
      As welcome as a fart in a spacesuit says:

      Yes he’s naughty,but in the same way a terrier let loose in a rat infested room would be naughty. Watching the buggers squirm is a small price to pay.

      • 275
        jgm2 says:

        Don’t get me wrong. I’m delighted Nick Griff*n is an MEP. I’m delighted that the voters of the North East are breaking out of their abusive relationship with Labour. I don’t care who they vote for as long as it’s not Labour.

        I don’t care if Leicester puts a frikkin Taleban MP into parliament which, with the way Labour’s vote held up locally in the recent local elections will be a distinct possibility if they actually get one to stand against Labour.

        I want this government eviscerated. Ideally literally eviscerated but I’ll settle for metaphorically eviscerated. I want them ground into dust by 40 million irate voters. 40 million scales falling from 40 million sets of eyes.

        They have taken a functioning economy, a functioning society and a functioning legal system and they have fucked it up the arse for 12 fucking years without even giving us a fucking reach around.

        And now they’re running about like headless chickens, shitting bricks, printing hundreds of billions to make the payroll and seeking to blame the yanks, the banks, the regulators, any other fucker except the bunch who were supposed to be making sure the wheels didn’t come off.

        • 377
          Where Left and right meet the circle closes says:

          Yep, the B*P and the Labour lot are slagging each other off as fascists..its like a war of religion…heretics and schismatics. See a Union Flag in the Window of a Dustcart and its ‘Nazi Bin Men’. What a shambles. Labour is at war with its constituency. Tragi-comedy or comic-tragedy. Or just more evidence of how the Socialist have screwed up yet a – bloody – gain

        • 386
          jgm2 says:

          Labour is at war with its constituency, it’s at war with the Iraqis, it’s at war with the Afghans, it’s at war with the British people and it’s at war with the truth.

          It’s pure 1984. Perpetual conflict. Plots, doublespeak, foreign enemies, home-grown sabateurs, surveillance, detention without charge.

          Outstanding for a bunch of kids many of whom were in their late 20’s/very early 30’s when they became the UK government. Young enough surely to remember the lessons of their ‘O’ level English Literature set text. 1984.

          And now, a mere 12 years later they find themselves putting ‘You’re in the Database’ ads up in town centres to encourage us to buy a TV licence.

          Pure scum one and all.

        • 426
          Budgie says:

          Most of ZaNu started in politics at University as SWP, IMG and other oddball Marxists, Trotskyists, Leninists and Maoists. They were insane scum then and now they still are.

    • 231
      Matt don't vote for labour says:

      Yeah but the more worrying point is why is David Cameron pulling the wool over traditional tory voters eyes when he’s a frankfurt school marxism operative like many in Nu Lab.

      Be united against facism by hammering people and attacking their businesses yeah nice one millionaire Dave nice one…..

      • 266
        who dunit says:

        Go on give it your best shot, why would he want to want to pull the wool over tory voters eyes? Surly tory voters can smell a commie miles away.

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  49. 229
    streamfisher says:

    Comment awaiting moderation?, have I said something to upset a Green?. Really this blog is getting more politically correct than the Guardian.

  50. 234

    C’mon fellers – stick your hands in your pockets – time for a tiny sacrifice

  51. 242
    FarmerGiles says:

    GBP’s on the way.
    What film did he watch?

  52. 243

    It looks like the media is picking up on the structures and attitudes, and as folks get a better understanding the mountain will turn into a pebble, the “recession” will look like the bump in the road it is, and the government will have a much stronger and freer hand to assist folks in knocking things into shape and building success.

    If you want to know about philosophy, politics, and video games, it’s all the same thing. As the old saying goes, the words may change but the poetry remains the same. Folks can get frustrated and upset, and Zen is a funky way of dealing with that, but the only real game is clearing the fog and experiencing life how it is, not how we might wish it to be.

    • 259
      Sir William Waad says:

      “There are people who, though having accomplished nothing, connive to receive great honours or high positions of authority. Well, people who gain high rank without having earned it are like rootless trees. They live in fear that even the slightest wind will topple them.

      Undeserved honor is a preface to disgrace.” (Master Han Shan)

      Now do you understand, Gor-Don-Bhaun?

    • 260
      What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

      Troll and flamebait comments become an issue if they go above about 5%. This is consistent with criminals and nutters in society. Trouble breeds trouble so it’s best to shut it down or shove it out of the way before it takes over the place. That’s pretty much a fact and anyone who says different is lying or doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
      Charles Hardwidge @ 8:30 pm, Thu 12th Feb 2009, LabourList

  53. 251
    Sir William Waad says:

    If the prosecution is called off, will the Sunlight Centre give everybody their money back?

  54. 264
    STOP THIS BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE says:

    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8152099.stm

    This must NOT HAPPEN

    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

    What part of the word NO doess Blair not understand?

  55. 279
    nell says:

    Just a thought everybody on here………..

    Do you think the Home Office ….MI5 (ie the Labour Party ) are trying to tie our identities on Guido to our real personna’s.

    I do think that is happening.

    Frankly I don’t care if they do.

    Indeed I have today emailed david cameron and gordon at no 10 with questions which will allow MI5 and MI6 and any person who cracks simple crosswords to work out my identity.

    • 285
      Anonymous Misogynist says:

      Nell, thanks to Jacqui Spliff they’ve probably got your home address..!

      • 302
        nell says:

        Anon Mys – I’m sure they have – I wish them joy of it.

        Litttle One’s Sport’s Day tomorrow – hoping for great things in tossing bean bags …….

        Are you listening —-Labour Party MI5/MI6??????

    • 292
      NewGirl says:

      Crikey haven’t they got better things to do?

      • 295
        Anonymous Misogynist says:

        It’s all about CONTROL..!!

        • 304
          Praise the Lord and pass the jockstrap says:

          It’ll take three van loads of ARU’s to take Nell!

        • 305
          PT Barnum says:

          This is one of the most frightening achievements of the last 12 years – surveillance, record-keeping, databases the Stasi would have wet themselves over.

          The ID card was supposed to be the finishing touch, to pull everything together and make into non-people anyone who resists.

          The only good thing to come out of the economic tsunami is they can’t afford ID cards for all anymore.

      • 346
        Steve Expat says:

        Better things to do than identify a large group of people visiting an ‘anti-politics’ website very critical of the incumbent government…… Let me think….

    • 303
      Engineer says:

      Whoever ends up with the job of tapping my ‘phone is going to be the most bored person on the planet. As for sifting my mail, hope they enjoy reading ‘Professional Engineering’ and ‘Furniture and Cabinetmaking’ magazines. They can keep the junk mail, though – be doing me a favour.

      • 310
        Gay Priest Chatline says:

        Those 0898 No’s might take a bit of explaining.

      • 312
        nell says:

        Absolutely!!

      • 335
        Andropov says:

        Comrade Engineer, you must not break cover yet. We have nearly brought about the collapse of Great Britain through the mis-management by the many young socialists and communists we subsidised in the 1970s. Your time will come.

        • 391
          Seminar Groups from Hell says:

          They always seemed to have readies at the junior common room bar when I was trying to better myself at University in the early seventies. Wondered where the cash came from. They all said they were on full grants cause their Dads were tight. God I hated all that SocSoc and Che Guevara…and their tarts…I won’t go into that. They were talking crap even then.

      • 364
        Engineer says:

        Usual time and place, Andy? Chalkmark on the wall as usual? Just drop the package and keep walking, yes?

    • 383
      Dr Feelgood says:

      I really don’t think we are at that point yet – but it could come if Labour’s control freakery is allowed to continue. I guess that evil fucker Ed Balls would love to stick dissenters in a ‘re-education’ camp if he could.

      Churchill was disparaged for claiming Labour would need ‘… some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance’ to impose socialism in Britain. I think he was prescient. Great audio of his speech here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/cta/events01/ukpol/election/archive/1945/45churchill_gestapo.ram

      In addition, he predicted degradation of power of Parliament, establishment of massive state bureaucracy, loss of freedom of speech…

  56. 283
    Nearly Headless Nick says:

    My very modest contribution is on its way by Paypal. I just wish it was more, but the GBP/Euro rate has cut my income by around 25 to 30%.
    I blame the UK government for financial mismanagement, leading to a collapse in confidence, world wide, with UK, plc.

    • 300
      Matt don't vote for labour says:

      Paypal was the best invention ever, now the cops can’t prove a thing, crime has never been easier.

  57. 287
    Odds Bodkins says:

    100 grand! I’m sure that are plenty of wretches out there that have so much money they don’t know what to do with it, even in these recessionary times.

    This would be fantastic if they manage to pull it off.

  58. 288
    Odds Bodkins says:

    …and I don’t see why not. This is as clear cut case of fraud and deception as I’ve ever seen.

  59. 290

    If something works, use it. If it doesn’t, throw it away.

    —Bruce Lee

    Goodbye Tories. Vote Gordon :-)

    • 331
      Anonymous Misogynist says:

      Be water my friend..

    • 351
      Steve Expat says:

      Vote for the madman! Ha ha Charles, that’s almost funny.

      At the moment the government isn’t working, so it’s time to throw it away and get a new one. Same as in 1997 it’s just that this time you’re on the receiving end…

      • 358
        Anonymous Misogynist says:

        Steve, tell me about Goates, please.

        • 367
          Steve Expat says:

          Goatse, you really want to know?

          It’s possibly the most disgusting picture ever posted on the internet. It was common 10 years ago to point links to it in a ‘rickrolling’ style, where it wasn’t expected.

          You’ll find it easily if you search, but be warned it is life changing…

          http://lenina.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/london-olympic-games-2012-the-logo-and-its-goatse-subversion/ – safe link with a description if you’re still interested, talking about when someone cartooned the image for an alternative Olympics logo and got the Beeb to publish it!!

        • 375
          Sid Barrett says:

          Poor A M. He’ll never be the same again! Nice to have known you!

        • 384
          Steve Expat says:

          He did ask (twice) and I did give warnings. Assuming he’s old enough to decide what websites to look at, who am I to stop him..?

  60. 296
    What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

    Okay, I have a suggestion.

    Let’s send all of the Labour apologists and trolls to Coventry (and never did a city deserve them more). Nobody reply to them AT ALL. Nobody even read their shit. Just blank ‘em.

    My other efforts may have destroyed all of Hardwidge’s google returns, but the overweaning self-importance and vanity of the yahoo is incapable of seeing irony and that he is NOT wanted here.

    • 301

      Out of steam are you, troll?

      p0wned.

      • 311
        PT Barnum says:

        No, tosspot, I’m bored. Everyone here is bored. Bored of you and of me trying to make you go away.

        Answer me one question, honestly.

        Why do you come here? Does being roundly villified make you feel vindicated in your martyrdom?

        • 313
          Matt don't vote for labour says:

          CHARLES HARDWIDGE AND BOB ROBERTS FROM WORCESTER ARE THE SAME PERSON AMONGST OTHER LABOUR SUPPORTING INTERNET ALIAS AND I CLAIM MY 5 POUNDS

          GG CHARLIE BOY GOOD GAME.

        • 314
          Matt don't vote for labour says:

          Opps caps for cruise control.

          Sorry.

        • 320
          PT Barnum says:

          Matt, any info on the real identity of the saddo behind the names? I know one or two interesting people who could be persuaded to do a little digging into very confidential records.

        • 336

          Yes I am Bob Roberts. Sometimes I post under the name Quietzapple as well, but Charles is my real name. I have no problem with anyone knowing that. I say what I think and tell the truth.

          You want the whole cake and that makes discussion impossible. I’ve got stuff to be getting on with and, I expect, Gordon Brown’s in a similar position. When we’re done we’ll both have something to talk about while you’ll just have talk about nothing.

          “Winning” is for losers. Neither Osborne or Cameron get this, which is why they and their fanbois are clinging to old politics in a changing world. They represent the problem when they could’ve been part of the solution: there are none so damned as those who damn themselves.

    • 315
      jgm2 says:

      He’s a troll. We all know that.

      • 326
        Matt don't vote for labour says:

        someone came on before on one of guidos old topics and listed all infamous labour trolls that are on the papers and sites apart from that i aint got a clue mate.

        • 339
          jgm2 says:

          He used to post on ‘Have your say’ before it became ‘Have your Say and we’ll knock any anti-government comments off the first screen and leave the remainder in moderation for 48 hours’.

          Can’t blame him for that. No way of getting a dialogue going.

    • 325
      Dr Feelgood says:

      Agreed. I’ve given up ragging him for sport.

      He’s someone with severe mental issues who craves attention. Ignoring the twat is the best option.

      • 343
        PT Barnum says:

        I think that that is a fair assessment, sir, and I shall now become as a wise monkey.

        And just for the record, I am not a troll. I have never concealed the fact that I WAS a lifelong Labour voter/supporter. Shit, I used to be chair of my local branch. And then came TB and his ilk and I saw what the future held and was afraid.

        Now I’m angry and baffled and horrified at what has happened to my country. I’m not a Tory or a LibDem. I’m just one amongst many who have had enough.

        • 369
          jgm2 says:

          But fair play to you son. You reeled him in good with your playbook of his past idiocies.

          The troll trolled.

          Respect.

        • 376
          PT Barnum says:

          Thank you, sir. I still have one or two (or twelve) in reserve if he becomes abusive, rather than just ludicrous.

        • 402
          Dr Feelgood says:

          What I find bizarre is how few Labour supporters there are online. Even at LabourList there are very few – the comments there dominated by people who are certainly not ‘Labour minded’.

          Guardian and BBC comments seem to have few people with Labour sympathies. Generally the online environment seems to be dominated by Tories, toytown nazis (unfortunately), UKIP, Greens, oh and even a few LibDems.

          I think this is interesting because I expect that, apart from the client state employees, a significant group of the 27% hard-core Labour supporters are older people, of DE social demographic. It seems to me that the only people who publicly say they will vote for them are of this segment – and they are hugely under-represented as Internet users. As we saw on Newsnight tonight, huge numbers of young people will vote ‘Anything But Labour’. All my right-on friends who used to support Labour have switched to Conservative.

          As a paid-up enemy of socialism, this is very encouraging. As time passes the unfortunate consequences of demographics are that much of the core Labour vote is going to pass on – and the UK political centre of gravity will shift to the right.

          If PM Dave is careful, and we make sure that the next generation isn’t tainted by Socialist ideology, we could see the end of the Labour nightmare that has blighted our nation for the last 100+ years.

          So, lack of viable online Labour activism is direct evidence that the creature is in its death throes. Yours optimistically…

        • 407
          Sir Michael Shite says:

          Who pays you to write that bollocks?

  61. 298
    Randy Old Man says:

    I’d pay Jacqui Smith 5grand for everything on the menu for a full night at a 4 or 5 star hotel.

    • 307
      Jacqui Smith says:

      Make it 10k and you’re on.

    • 318
      jgm2 says:

      For that kind of cash you could get a gaggle of goodlooking Russian hookers and a menu you haven’t even begun to dream about. Allegedly.

      And still have change to do whatever you want to a Jacqui look-a-like behind any mainline railway station or any taxi rank after chucking out time.

      • 340
        Randy Old Man says:

        Are you a pimp sonny Jim?? I might take you up on your offer but still i’m partial to abit of proper ‘English meat and potatoes like our Jacqui phoawr heck lad.

        • 345
          jgm2 says:

          My dear boy if you have five thousand quid to spend on hookers then get the hence to Khasakstan. Forget about the *stan bit in the name. Them girls is tip-top European pussy and very competitively priced. Babetastic.

          Allegedly.

          Failing that the young ladies of Tanzania are very accommodating for little more than a handful of company biros.

          Allegedly.

        • 348
          Goormay says:

          More like ‘addock and mushy pees

        • 354
          Sonny Jim says:

          Don’t get me muddled up with that twat

  62. 319
    Ewanme says:

    OMG !!!

    My bum is smooooth an hairless , honey !!

    I’ll show ya at the Guinnessathon 2mrw nite ;-))

    E x .

  63. 322
    Fraggle says:

    Good luck with this I really hope you succeed,I have donated £10.00.for the cause.
    I am a minimum wage monkey(thats the way it is-sorry ,no sob story its my own fault )—I hope you nail the greedy, hypocritical, self-serving bastards to the wall—so when my back is breaking, I can think that these Hoons are feeling it to.

  64. 329
    arthur says:

    I hope you have all checked these people out and their connection with Bark and Co solicitors they seem to be fraud defence rather than prosecution.

  65. 349
    Matt don't vote for labour says:

    Can anyone help a yoof in need out?? Does anyone have a guess at:

    ”How many runs will be scored on Sunday’s 4th day of the second Ashes test at Lord’s?”

    • 356
      jgm2 says:

      270

    • 359
      Steve Expat says:

      320 plus or minus 20, assuming no rain and that the match doesn’t finish during the day.
      A ‘normal’ day is 90 overs and the average is usually 3.5ish runs an over

      • 361
        jgm2 says:

        Weather forecast showing heavy showers, bound to be some time lost hence 270. Looks like they’ll lose all of Friday too so another drawn test beckons unless England do what they’re famous for ie snatch defeat from the jaws of boredom.

        • 374
          Steve Expat says:

          You’re right, weather is looking a bit iffy for the whole match.

          If they lose more than a day and a half it’s an almost certain draw – but please, PLEASE not as tight as last week’s was!!

        • 380
          Heartbroken Army says:

          Where’s freddie?

        • 387
          Steve Expat says:

          Hopefully resting the knee and getting an early night!

      • 363
        Mark Oaten says:

        Where’s the hot steamy one the fuckers at the Met Office promised? Bastards.

    • 366
      chronic says:

      322

      • 373
        jgm2 says:

        That’ll would be Australia batting then. England to win the toss and all out by Saturday lunch with no play Friday. Repeat of their first innings in Cardiff with interrupted play on Sunday.

        Could be. Australia generally score around 4+ an over.

    • 400
      Bzzzz says:

      Match called off due to flooded outfield? Or maybe a lightning strike to the pavilion?

      220 in between showers otherwise.

    • 401
      Freddie Flintoff's Fucked says:

      You’d get a better answer watching John McCririck doing semaphore.

  66. 360
    Fuckov says:

    I hav good belly poppers, you scum nevr learn.

  67. 378
    Mrs Hardwidge says:

    I’ve put Charlie to bed now with his Kinnochio doll and a nice hot mug of Horlicks. I want to ask all you nice people to please not bait him so, as it gets him all excited and then he has to do that thing that he thinks I don’t know about, but we mums always know!

    Anyway Charlie really enjoys playing on his computer but I have told him he must switch it off after an hour and get on with his homework. He’s doing The Rise of the Nazis at the moment which he seems to like but unfortunately he just strides about the room making BOOM CRASH noises and not writing anything. Still boys will be boys you know! He’s really very clever and those funny people at Labour Lost think he’s much older than he is!

    Bye bye now thank you Mr Fawkes and sleep tight!

    • 408
      Durk speigel of the Volksparty says:

      been looking through the long list of possible disorders your son has , i think hes a got nazi blogg machoistism , likes being flagellated really hard , but in written forms . I just need a few more questions answered to make the full diagnosis .

      1 has he ever been a labour PPC ?

      2 are there any pictures in the bedroom of Ed Balls particulary the laderhosen one.

      3 have you suspected what he told you were mooring rope burns , might be somthing else .

      4 when he dresses up does for a night out , does he choose a) ben sherman smart but casual b) yves sylarant suite with cuffilinks or c) red gown with ermine trim wig and stockings with suspender .

      5 when enetring a macdonalds , does he erupt with rage and then bursts into tears when you order the usual happy meal and plastic toy .

      any info will help

  68. 397
    Angry Voter says:

    Anyone else noticed quite a few progs popping up re. soldiers and Iraq/Afghanistan lately? ITV1 Nightwatch tonight now for example. There have been a few others too.

    Are the shitty government softening us up or fighting for our hearts and minds?

    I think we should be told.

  69. 398
    Anonymous says:

    These Merlin’s that Broon keeps on about, are they upgrades from the Obama cancellation of the Bush presidential order?

    • 411
      barefootcontessa says:

      To whom it may concern. I can report that my apparently dead hedgehog has been reunited with the wild. He spent the day curled up in a tight ball in his cardboard box, then this evening he was carried and placed on a grassy knoll. Eventually he uncurled took a sniff at the fresh grass, and was off, snuffling and munching his way into the damp undergrowth. Happy as larry. And so was I!

      Hedgehogs have hardly changed for 15 million years. Makes you think, doesn’t it?

      • 420
        Anon says:

        Hedgehogs sound remarkably like socialists.

        • 429
          caesars wife says:

          bit of an insult on hedgehogs if you ask me

          tapeworms nearer the mark !

      • 423
        On the origins of old bollocks says:

        The last theory i heard was that Hedgehogs had undergone a fundamental change,and i’m not talking spiney balls. The old hog defense of curling up for protection,was rendered obsolete by the motor vehicle. Think the Mahdi army,speared up to the hilt,facing Kitcheners campers,armed with machine guns. So,by natural selection,those Luddite hogs did’nt fare too well. However,the more discretionary verge scuttlers,who had it away on their claws,tended to survive and procreate. So now,if you interfere with one,its more likely to scarper,which is what i’d better do.

  70. 409

    With a somewhat heavy heart, I made my donation. Heavy heart? Why, yes. I quite like Jacqui Smith as a person. But she did wrong. And when people do wrong, they shouldn’t get away with it.

  71. 413
    oldrightie says:

    Why does this God forsaken Labour shit hole of a Country put up with this lot, Hardarse?

  72. 414
    coldman knacks says:

    sorta off-topic but if you are interested in how a certain global investment bank raise *ahem* funds and you’re a computer spod then the following alleged stolen source code might be of interest to you…

    http://code.google.com/u/saleyn/updates

    don’t blame me if you download the files and then find your early morning wankfest being rudely interrupted by plod crashing into your bedsit, i am only posting it for entertainment purposes only, and not because gordon brown gave fuck knows how many billions of tax payers money to banks and then chancellor thunderturd a few month later announced in the budget that the gov were planning over the next ten years to borrow shitloads of money from, yes you guessed it, the banks.

  73. 421

    o/t

    Swine Flu and employment law

    Some people don’t understand what their responsibilities are.

  74. 434

    Hows about a fundraising campaign to kick the whole lot out? You know, the ones who are barely divisible, take advantage of their voters, take them for granted, treat them with contempt, and only protect the “political classes”

    Tory ,Labour Lib Dem.

    We can vote in those decent folk who actually give a shit. You know, the wee lady who volunters all her days for the satisfaction of helping, the little guy who takes disabled neighbours shopping. That way we can get true representation, institue a maximum 2 terms of office rule to stop the spongers and the “club”(no matter what party they are the club!) they just whoop and holler to different tunes for the medias benefit.

    And when the politicos(and their journowhores) say this is a ridiculous idea they have no govermental experience?We can respond with it’s no more ridiculous than you with no life skills, work experience or morals.

    At least we could get people who really give a shit!

    VOTE INDEPENDENT!!!!

    • 435

      Oh and bollox to the mantra of “were the only party who can win”, that only keeps the plebs on the 2 trick pony circuit.

      Get the corrupt lot out. Vote for Mabel the dinner lady, vote for reverend biggs, vote for the guy who volunteered in africa for a year and forget the political clingons and climbers.

      Merit based, sincere applicants need only apply.

      • 443
        Anon says:

        Hear hear. Get the whole lot out and start again.

        None of the present incumbents deserve to win their seat again. Why should the electorate feel obliged to vote for one of the three parties every time the bastards ‘listen’ to us briefly for 15 minutes every four or five years. They’ve all blotted their copy book and deserve a kicking.

      • 444

        I feel a right dumbass! I just visited the Jury team website! LOL

        DUH!

        well theyve got my cash :-), get the trough gobblers of all parties out. Lets have a cromwellian revolution, with less bloodshed and vandalism!

      • 449
        barefootcontessa says:

        Good point, but would they be any better under the present system?

        • 453

          I think if we can swing the undecided and fight on truth and no spin the people will know truth when they see it. Under the present system it will be tough and not an overnight win. Expect the established and vested interest parties to pulll in their journowhores too make spin and sleaze.

          No longer shall this voter be taken for granted. In these days of internet and technology there is no reason why 1500-4500 voters in each westminster ward cannot be regulary polled on the pressing issues in a secure and controlled non fraudulent manner.

          For once this voter is genuinely excited. Dont let the bastards tell you they are your only hope.

          Hamsters! Desert your wheels and leave your cages!

      • 460
        Shithead says:

        It’s all gone quiet again. Vulture Straw’s back on his perch, voyeuring away as if nothing happened. Unelected Mandelscum’s still taking it up the arse and propping up the unelected One-Eyed Scottish Wanker until we’re safely ensconced in the Lisbon Treaty.

        All true, folks, but there’s one guaranteed way to bring this shower of ’socialist’ shits down in a few days. We organise another, bigger fuel protest like the 2000 effort. We close down a few arterial routes and a couple of motorways. That could and should mean a general election within what – six or eight weeks? Does anyone have contact numbers for any of the protesting hauliers and farmers from last time? With the help of the net and some well-sorted blogs we could make this one much bigger and better. I’ve a contact inside Number 10 who tells me Broon still has sleepless nights about 2000, and why wouldn’t he? Shall we go for it? What do you think?

        • 464
          barefootcontessa says:

          The gorgon has already got the authorities geared up, a nice little bunker up there in bonnie Scotland all to himself. He’s got to have a hidey hole where he can bite his finger nails in peace.

  75. 436

    If contributors talk of the need for sacrifice we should consider the words of Ayn Rand

    “It only stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master”

    Let’s not vote for our own servitude

  76. 439
    jgm2 says:

    OT

    Report on banks due out today. So, after a year of recession, a full parliamentary term of MP’s sleaze and the ongoing failure to properly equip our soldiers the final act of this parliamentary term will be to go on holiday blaming the whole shit-storm on a few bankers again.

    Weeks of headlines about evil bankers destroying Brown’s golden legacy and mitacle economy culminating in ’spontaneous’ acts of vandalism and possibly assault or worse as our newspapers are again whipped up behind the scenes by Harman, McBride and their like.

    The evil fuckers.

    Typical Brown. Typical Labour.

    It’s all in the timing.

    • 442
      emc2 says:

      jgm2 I agree, however it is worst than that, because non one / zero / none of these various brunch of hoons is put on trail for their sins against the state!

      Not yet anyhow…. soon soon my friends

  77. 447
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    Jackboot Jacqui,it must be assumed that you read this blog.

    How do you feel now? How do you feel that you personally are the
    epicentre of such contempt,vitriol and gathering of some of the masses.

    Should have gone to byebyes every night in the Grace and Favour.

    Whose sorry now? I bet youare!

  78. 451
    Reevo says:

    I have better things to do with my cash than putting it into the pockets of the lawyers.

    What interests me more is why we have not see any state prosecutions of thieving MP’s. That is the REAL issue!

    Why is the state more interested in chasing and prosecuting single mum’s who made a mistake with their accounting!

    Ha!

  79. 452
    barefootcontessa says:

    Don’t think any of them care a jot! Only a question of time before the whole exes scandal is forgotten. Long holidays on the horizon (far too long), and they’ll come back in ?October and start the whole corrupt system again. One good thing though, they will never be judged with the same respect. They have been sussed. The king’s new clothes and all that.

    Is that a new disease the front newlabour bench have caught? The strange orange disease? Trust it’s incurable.

  80. 455

    Why the hell are are we accepting like docile plebs, the bullshit argument that these corrupt theiving barstewards are going to stand down? On their way collecting hundreds of thousands with abandon(theyve got nothing to loose now) and still collecting a pension? If this was anyone else we’d be in court no extra pay and no pensions.

    For once I trully admire the French! I am ashamed however over our lack of backbone as a people. Neutered and conditioned to accept the most diobolical and piss poor feeble excuses.

    • 465
      barefootcontessa says:

      No, but the French didn’t get it right either. They’ve been paying heavily ever since the blood letting of the revolution. They do try hard to have a secular society though, and that is a good thing.

    • 472
      thick as thieves says:

      golden rule of propaganda 1) you must win the people.
      you are attacking the British in your comment.
      DOH!
      calm down.
      it’s only a blog.

  81. 456
    Multiple Miggs says:

    I can smell something and it is not nice, time to get her behind bars where she belongs!

  82. 463
    Cruel but Ferret says:

    Donated 20 squid, worth every penny….

    Guido, do keep us all updated on progress; would love to see these oily b4st4rds up before the beak.

    Tory sleaze…. :) What the hell will they name this Liebour shower?

  83. 466
    Chief_Sceptic says:

    £50 duly donated – rarely was a cause more worthy ! …

  84. 473
    Anonymous says:

    Total waste of money.
    Reason: J.Boots has the whole of the Taxpayers money at her command for a Defence.
    She and her Govt would tie you down for years in legal loopholes.
    Better to buy an AK47 and go on rampage.

  85. 474
    MB says:

    No great surprise

    In the Daily Mail

    “Jacqui Smith: I’d never run a thing before the Home Office”

  86. 475
    Pay-Per-View says:

    I agree the case probably won’t go the full distance – I’ve sent off my £10 purely in the hope that it will cause her 10 minutes of “oh shit, what if” angst.

  87. 476
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    What a splendid cause. I’ve sent in my £20. I’m not holding my breath, as the fact is the government ministers are effectively above the law, but we certainly have to try!

  88. 477
    QC anyone? says:

    Absolutely Brill!
    A WIN-WIN for us Lawyers!

  89. 478
    Seth the pig farmer says:

    This thread is probably dead, but a suggestion to Guido if I may.

    If you announce that you will give any additional profits from the click-throughs on this site to the sunlight, we can all click away and the advertisers will be making a donation to this worthy cause.

    Obviously you would need to decide what proportion of the click-throughs are over and above the baseline, but that can’t be too difficult. It would be nice to hear every now and then that another cheque has been sent off.

    I don’t know if Sunlight is a charity (probably not), but if it is, then we would have the additional pleasure of knowing that the taxman is topping up the donation.

  90. 479
    Shithead says:

    Why has this gone so quiet? It looks like there was only one comment added yesterday. Chris Galley’s appeal for cash must be worth the candle. I’m supporting this. Good luck to all involved. Good on yer!







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