July 13th, 2009

Dizzy Does Downing Street


464 Comments

  1. 1
    Another mad Fife git says:

    For fucks sake get a life!

    • 8
      Steve Expat says:

      But why were they being so evasive about it – and who the fuck is buying the stuff from a gift shop INSIDE No.10, where it is fair to say security is reasonably tight!

      • 63
        Agent 99 says:

        Well Broon won’t need to be asked “something for the weekend sir?” will he?

      • 114
        summer_Breeze says:

        Did they have to do a complete re-stock after that greedy sod Cherie left Downing Street, probs with a very large haul stuffed down her knickers!

      • 116
        freddie flintoff says:

        eh up lads whats going on ?

        • 144
          Steve Expat says:

          Hope you enjoyed your day off Freddie, please be restin’ the knee for Thursday!

        • 146
          freddie flintoff says:

          steve am 50/ 50 am doing my best lad

        • 177
          Doctor Mick says:

          Fred lad, we need you on two legs not one. Remember two legs good, one leg bad.

          Also, may I venture to suggest:

          Four pints bad, one pint so-so.

        • 179
          freddie flintoff says:

          mick am doing me best , might miss the lords test

        • 389
          Mike Brearley says:

          Not good thinking, the Lord has his reasons for the test!

    • 20
      Tom Wright says:

      Nappies

    • 65
      Anonymous says:

      Dizzy is a tosser

      • 89
        Derek says:

        Absolutely Brilliant!!!!!!!!!

      • 428
        Osama the Nazarene says:

        Lighten up its light entertainment but shows how the first instinct of this wretched government is to hide information!

    • 125
      thick as thieves says:

      I don’t get it Guido.
      why have you got a thread about a fat down’s syndrome guy obsessed with a fucking gift shop?
      sorry mate, you’ve totally lost me on this one.
      it’s a bit creepy actually.
      maybe you should delete it. no-one wants to see a fat c’unt like that whingeing on like some old fat fishwife. for fucks sake most of your readers get that at home, they do not need it stuffed down their throats when they come here to relax and enjoy themselves.
      some of those poor bastards are even married to gobby wankers like new girl.
      sad sad motherfuckers.
      come on Guido, how about some totty instead, eh?
      delete and replace, innit.
      simple, so simple.

      • 127
        freddie flintoff says:

        eh up thick lad i read ya post from other day , i am independent lad , and monty should open the batting lad

      • 241
        I changed my surname from pigshit by deed poll says:

        Losing you would be a pleasure. You are Charles Hardwiges uneducated brother and I claim £0.35p. Anything more would be a rip off.

        • 254
          I says:

          Hey, have some respect. That’s thick of thieves! He’s like the most funny, clever, eloquent and insightful person on this blog. I mean sure, to date he’s the only actual person who’s ever said that, but are you going to argue with someone who comes across so engaging, charismatic, worldly and knowledgeable as him? I’m not.

        • 275
          Mr Slater's Parrot says:

          SKWAAARRK! (flutter)

      • 293
        dizzy says:

        I got called a mong w00t. Does this mean I can take part in the Special Olympics?

        I’ll have you know that I worked hard on my fat too, I am way off the sensai Guido though.

      • 427
        kick one they all limp says:

        Funny only last week you were trying to get “new girl” round to your place so you could “spank her”now who’s the sad bastard ? just because she blew you out she’s a “grubby wanker” you need treatment you sad twat !

        • 449
          PLEASE FORM AN ORDERLY QUEUE TO BE SPANKED BY THE GREAT AND HEROIC THICK AS THIEVES, EVEN DIZZY says:

          OOOOOOOOHHHH!!!!!!
          SHE’S GOT HER KNICKERS IN A TWIST!
          CALM DOWN YOU SILLY OLD TART I WILL GET TO YOU IN DUE COURSE.
          AS SOON AS I HAVE FIXED MY CAP LOCK KEY.

  2. 2
    Bordeaux Binger says:

    A little pointless but it does show how far the bureaucratic mind will go to avoid answering the most simple and uncontentious questions. A bit like the Prime Mentalist at PMQs.

    • 17
      I've shagged Darling's eyebrows says:

      Interestingly, one can see where the BBC go. “So if you get a freebie would you shut up?” Mentalist Shaggers.

      Well done Dizzy for not being a BBCer

    • 19

      I’ve commented before that I pioneered the concept of graphics fidelity and that without my contribution, the video games of today wouldn’t exist. I achieved that thanks to confidence, positive-thinking, and the long-view. It’s a narrative that most ordinary folks see is useful and by tapping into that a more confident, glued together, and successful nation can be built and change flow from there.

      • 32
        Charles Hardon says:

        I’ve commented before that I pioneered the concept of BDSM and that without my contribution, the fetish industry of today wouldn’t exist. I achieved that thanks to confidence, positive-thinking, and a penchant for chained midgets in leather shorts. It’s a lifestyle that most ordinary folks see as healthy and by tapping into that a more confident, glued together, and kinky nation can be built and change flow from there.

      • 92
        Doctor Mick says:

        You had fuck all to do with Halo 3 Xbox Online and that’s the only game worth playing. It is fuckin awesome.

        Graphics Fidelity my arse. what the fuck is that?

      • 96
        Alibarbs says:

        Of course the problem is that you’re a bare faced liar Charles – you had shag all to do with any kind of graphics pioneering, as well you know!

    • 140
      Funny money says:

      Maybe it’s a money laundering front for New Labour donations? That kind of thing they WOULD want to keep quiet about.

  3. 3
    PT Barnham's shit shoveller says:

    So there’s a secret gift shop inside Number 10? Um….how does anything get sold?

    In James Bond and Torchwood, the gift shop was the disguise to hide the secret organisation. I think wee Gordie’s got it the wrong way round again.

    • 242
      Loadsamoney! says:

      The list of things for sale is of course incomplete. They left out buying peerages and laws.

  4. 4
    Master Baiter says:

    Haven’t any of you been yet?

  5. 5
    Anonymous says:

    Do the Brown/Balls team get a % of profits. Which company supplies goodies?

  6. 6
    Augeas says:

    Sums McSnot up – pointless, paranoid, and no idea how to run a sweetie stall.

  7. 11
    abdul mohamed yassi says:

    guido is dizzier than anybody , praise be to his profits

    fuck dizzy and fuck all infidels allah will fuck your picket fence

  8. 12
    Dr Feelgood says:

    Nothing wrong with such a gift shop, Palace of Westminster has one for members, staff and visitors. Indeed, the White House has one – which is where the Obamas got the very personal and carefully thought-out presents for Gordon, Sarah and family on their first visit.

    • 31
      So17 says:

      The small shop at the POW was per Square meter more profitable than Harrods.
      Well thats what the guy behind the counter told me.
      I used to smoke my House of Commons fags at the local boozer and very impressed too were the regular piss heads.

      • 115
        Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

        They do a nice range of Katz Pitz HoC wine too

        • 441
          agent of Chaos says:

          Thanks for the steer. Couldn’t decide between the ‘House of Commons Fudge’ and the ‘House of Lords Baseball Cap’ (be still, my aching sides…).

          At least that shop is relatively accessible within the perimeters of the Palace of Westminster. Number 10’s shop is accessible only if you scale a massive steel fence, defeat various electronic countermeasures and an armed police guard. Stocking up on tourist tchochkes there would amount to making a sequel to the popular ‘Mission: Impossible’ series of films.

          How this counts as a ’shop’ leaves me baffled. Maybe Angie, Nico and Barry are expected to drop in during their official visits.

    • 451
      Basil's Brush says:

      They gave him a box of White House tissues which pop out of a music box to the tune of Colonel Bogey

  9. 13

    The asset stripping and consumerist years are over. They’re gone and what we’re left with is a headache of rich people with no loyalty pricing everyone out of the market, and entire communities on the scrapheap. But fixing this is doable.

    Closing tax loopholes and bringing in law to bolster the power of ordinary people to influence governance is a good start. Perhaps, as this initiative is brought more closely into focus people will appreciate what Gordon Brown has done and can do.

    All hail Blessed Leader!

    • 15
      Riff Raff says:

      Eh?

      I’ll have some of what you’re on. Either it’s a huge spliff or a massive wad of cash paid for shilling labour – either way share it round!

      • 29
        Augeas says:

        You don’t want what he’s taking – it will make you go blind, deaf and stupid.

    • 21
      D T Suzuki says:

      Eyes fail to see it – it has no voice for ears to detect

    • 53
      Budgie says:

      I certainly “appreciate what Gordon Brown has done and can do” and its real scary.

  10. 16
    streamfisher says:

    The Downing Street gift shop? obviously a front for nefarious activities which would explain why they are so coy about releasing any details, is it money laundering?, disappointed they have not disclosed the best seller..Gold plated trough with H.M Government logo. But seriously, the Downing Street gift shop leading to Houses of Parliament Way is open to all who can find enough people stupid enough to vote for them.

    • 34

      A recent survey suggested business confidence had slumped but this is mostly an illusion in the minds of business leaders. They buy into ideas and sentiments which then dictate their minds like so many marching tin soldiers. Better to be like the eighth-century Indian monk Shantideva and untangle your mind.

      • 48
        streamfisher says:

        Look my business IS selling tin soldiers and I can tell you the bottom HAS dropped out of the market, this is not an illusion, maybe I should take your advice and re-tool, would 8th century Shantideva monk lead models sell better?, sounds like a very niche market to me.

  11. 24

    I broke into a smile earlier today when I won yet another major award for the brilliant, insightful and much respected commentary that I post on the internet. I then broke into an even bigger smile when I remembered that Gordon Brown, the intellectual behemoth of our age, chose to be our leader.

    Consider. By taking the big important decision to borrow 20 billion pounds every month, Gordon is making Britain 20 billion pounds richer, every month. Because of clever Gordon’s brilliant and unique far-sightedness, which fully anticipated America’s global recession, we will soon have the world’s first socialist utopia in which all of us will be rich, living in palaces and none of us will ever have to work again. Yet the Treadmill Tories, who have never shown even the slightest understanding of economics, would cut government borrowing and therefore cut Britain’s wealth. Madness!

    Gordon is a wealth creator. Keep on creating wealth for us, Gordon!

    • 27
      D T Suzuki says:

      Eyes fail to see it

    • 33

      Dear Charles

      Since when is debt been wealth you mad hoon?

      Grow up and shut up!

      Yours sincerely

      George Laird
      The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

    • 71
      Engineer says:

      Isn’t a ‘behemoth’ one of those rather bedraggled, limp, sozzled creatures with wings, that you find slumped over a barrel in pub cellars?

    • 124
      freddie flintoff says:

      fuck of you hoon for god sake your like gordon robbing a bank fucking a hoon and i going to get taxed at 50%

      • 147
        PT Barnham's shit shoveller says:

        Freddie, dear, it is important to notice the difference between the real Hardwidge and the much funnier pretend ones, like knowing a chinaman from a yorker kind of tihing.

        • 150
          freddie flintoff says:

          eh lad i just want a honset parlimant lad

        • 182
          Doctor Mick says:

          Better you wish for a fair Australia. Both pipe dreams lad.

        • 187
          freddie flintoff says:

          the convicts going back with a sore arse lad

        • 191
          Doctor Mick says:

          Isn’t that why many were sent out there in the first place?

          Just keep Ponting’s grimace in place, that’s all we ask.

        • 192
          freddie flintoff says:

          mick lad the lads are fired up , monty and jimmy where brill , thankfuck for the tail lad

        • 229
          Doctor Mick says:

          Aye first time for ages the nation has had occasion to be grateful to No 10. (geddit fred?)

        • 418
          freddie flintoff says:

          yep mick lad if only the top order had done the same

  12. 25

    I note that the anti-Gordon mob damn him if he spends money on services and damn him if he cuts money to services. This contrarian smear has been core to the Conservative campaign. This trick proves the Tories still don’t get it and remain unfit for government. They’re just too short-term and self-serving. This is immoral and always ends badly.

    • 35
      Anonymous says:

      my buzz-word generator is gefuctederrlloiuds ….

    • 38
      Basic IT Training Course says:

      Bugger off to Norwich North, Charles. I hear your boys need help. Come 24th July you’ll have to add “search and replace” to your “cut and paste skills”.

      • 49
        Budgie says:

        Yes, Gordoom is a moron irrespective of whether he wastes more of our money or saves it. What always ends badly for the economy is any period of ZaNu government.

    • 46
      Augeas says:

      Right, moron, where do we start:
      Gordon spends money not on services but on consultants, overpriced PFI projects, armies of purposeless bureaucrats (see jobs pages in the Grauniad or Observer) and the legacy of Bliar’s military adventurism in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as totally pointless and statist ventures like ID cards (would you really dare defend them? Alan Johnson has more sense, but a lot of money has already been wasted) and the NHS computer (quote from the Sunday Times:

      “The National Programme for IT, set up to digitise patient records and connect the NHS via a nationwide broadband spine, is running over time and over budget, having cost £12.4 billion so far.

      “By drawing down more and more money from the taxpayer they have spent huge amounts on these large corporate programmes to replace what already works. I think it is scary”

      This is NOT investment, it is simply pissing money away. With public finances in a state of total collapse, we cannot afford this. Every pound wasted on shit like this is a pound that will have to be paid back in the future, and could have been spent on real services.

      I don’t know if the Tories are yet fit for government. That will depend if they are brave enough to walk away from Gordon and his stooges like you seeking to set a completely bogus agenda while running the country into the third world.

      • 52
        Budgie says:

        Government ID card/database: where Gordoom steals your identity and rents it back to you, providing you are a good boy (or girl).

      • 58
        Steve Expat says:

        Couldn’t agree more Augeas, well said.

        There are more management consultants currently worknig in the NHS than clinical consultants – change that balance and watch the bloated spending fall.

        Ditto Education, police and local councils – stop the constant top-down target setting and let prefessionals get on with their jobs without political micro-management.

        Dave and team need to have the balls to stand up and say that there will be a 10% cut next year, another 10% cut the year after, and possibly another 10% the year after that. The public can see what has happened, we want a smaller government – please Tories, be honest with us and we will vote for you in millions!

        • 444
          Anonymous says:

          Theres a reason though, why theres more external management consultants. The civil service, for the most part have not got a fucking clue. Do you know what calibre of people they recruit and retain? And the fact that a significant number of them move on every 12-24 months?

          How the hell are you meant to build up any expertise when you have absolutely no form of succession planning or co-ordinated recruitment strategy? Its purely about arses on seats and nothing to do with the quality of the recruit.

          Most of the older ones are time serving pension chasers, keeping their heads down, fudging decisions, doing anything but putting their pensions in jeopardy. Hence when theres difficult decisions to be made, they avoid them, things dont get any better, projects slide along with standards, people leave and then you end up dragging in consultants from outside to re-establish the baseline so that you can get things back on track. Being a consultant for the public sector is money for old rope. There is no need for ethics, no need to think too deeply about what the end customer wants… whoever is paying you, is happy to pay you to implement his agenda. You just smile and take the money and say, yes, of course white is pink.

          If you dont, there will be a queue of people behind you in the job queue perfectly ready to say it.

          Thats the way it is.

          Why do you think we have US levels of investment with Mediterranean levels of performance, as the Times put it last Saturday?

      • 62

        When you’re riding a bicycle down a road full of potholes and don’t fall off, do you grumble that you can’t be a good bicycle rider because you didn’t fall into a hole, or just accept that you cycled onwards with hardly a jolt?

        Just as you look ahead, mind the occasional hole, keep peddling, and subconciously maintain your balance, so the developed economies have worked the magic trick of maintaining fairly bouyant economies. This isn’t an accident. It’s taken a measure of skill.

        Business confidence, economic shocks from abroad, and other emerging issues are things governments have to deal with. They don’t always handle things perfectly or quick enough but things aren’t too bad. Worrying about it just makes you unhappy and risks losing the plot.

    • 134
      freddie flintoff says:

      no charles lad i want everyone treated the same , i want my taxes spent on worthwhile projects , i want the old looked after and i want a honest pm , gordon brown spun , lied and bullied his way into number ten , the labour party i knew has died its full off bullys and urber creeps , i thought labour stood for the working class but they only care for rupet murdoch , now fuck off lad

      • 442
        A Sensible England-Loving Chap says:

        Well said, Freddie!

        If you stood in my constituency, you’d get my vote!

        Now give the Aussies a good spanking!

        • 459
          SPANK MY ARSE AND CALL ME THICKIE says:

          DONT mention spanking ! That thick as shit bloke will get a boner on !

  13. 28

    Dear All

    Does the gift shop have an employee?

    Do people take what they want and then leave the cash?

    I need to know!

    Yours sincerely

    George Laird
    The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

    • 40
      So17 says:

      ‘Does the gift shop have an employee?’

      This is Gordon Brown we are talking about. Not only will it have a full Dept of civil servants but a Secretary of state for Defence & Gift Shop.

    • 43
      Right Bastard says:

      You pay your money into Gordon Brown’s honesty box.

    • 101
      Chris Gilmore says:

      No thievin jocks would be allowed in.

  14. 36
    Hugh Janus says:

    If their performance with the country’s economy is any guide, this should already be making a thumping great loss and will soon fail altogether.

    • 41
      Be a Darling says:

      The No 10 shop does better than the corner shop next door. I understand they can’t sell gilts for toffee.

  15. 42
    Sir William Waad says:

    What else do they sell – Gordon’s gin? Chocolate salty Balls? The DvDs of Mr Benn and Peter’s Friends? Cooper’s marmalade? Presentation edition of Tessa the Durbervilles? Bendy Straws? Digital milli-band radio? Royall Scot biccies? Musical box playing My Darling Clementine?

  16. 47
    Trough Mixture says:

    Watson looks like a mint thins man.

  17. 56
    labour- great customer of the IMF says:

    LABOUR BROUGHT THE NATION TO ITS KNEES AGAIN AS THEY DID IN THE SEVENTIES.

  18. 59
    VotR says:

    While you can buy all you want from Gordon’s dwelling, it is the only way to make money these day in Downing Street, here’s what UK diplomats get up to abroad with their ho’s:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHYSGn9fYak

  19. 66
    labour- great customer of the IMF says:

    The thing that frightens me the most about a Labour government is that is suppresses enterprise – Alan Sugar, 1992.

  20. 68
    abdul mohamed yassi says:

    allah fuck your picket fence guido for moding a muslim

    http://troonite.co.uk/

    • 119
      Living in Shadows says:

      Do you think you could get him to fuck my neighbours Leylandii hedge?
      Cheers.

      • 135
        abdul mohamed yassi says:

        abdul Mohamed Yassi is a veggy and dont go to da bookies so hedge yer nayburrz bets yaarsel (fucking infidel)

      • 394
        Death to Leylandii says:

        That’s easy Shads.

        Drill a downwards hole at 45 degrees near the base of the trunk, making sure that you penetrate to the centre of the trunk. Then fill almost to the top with diesel fuel. Plug hole with some earth to seal and disguise your foul deed and the job is done.

        Sit back and watch their demise.

    • 184
      Doctor Mick says:

      Al ham da gorillas

      • 198
        abdul mohamed yassi says:

        You doctor so you kno – never mod a muslim or p-p-pickup a penguin….have a break from insulting the profits of guido or merciful allah will fucking brake you into too goary bloody parts.

        http://troonite.co.uk
        ______________________________
        all hope remains in s,p,e,d,o-s,h,or,t,s

        • 212
          Doctor Mick says:

          Allah will do no such thing.

          Shukran min fadlik

        • 460
          SPANK MY ARSE AND CALL ME THICKIE says:

          IF you dont like our picket fences then Fuck off back to your desert where there aren’t any ! welcome to the 21st century !

  21. 70
    labour- great customer of the IMF says:

    It’s that sort of entrepreneurial spirit the Conservatives believe in and Labour doesn’t understand – Alan Sugar, 1992.

  22. 73
    labour- great customer of the IMF says:

    The reason Labour flourished many years ago was the “them and us” situation that prevailed in England. There were the rich and there were the poor. At that stage maybe I would have sympathised with the need for a Labour government. But that’s all been changed now. Look around. Yes, there are the very poor and more should be done for them. But almost everybody’s got a microwave oven, a car and a colour television – maybe more than one colour television in their homes. Let’s be honest with each other. ‘Them and us’ doesn’t exist any more – Alan Sugar, 1992.

    • 78
      Engineer says:

      Since 1992, things have got more unequal. For a start, I haven’t got a microwave oven. I don’t actually want a microwave oven, but that’s beside the point – by Nulab’s measure, I’m poor.

      • 94
        NewGirl says:

        I haven’t got a micowave oven either Engineer. Don’t like ‘em – all those dodgy waves. And they make crap jacket potatoes too. Am I poor?

        • 103
          Engineer says:

          We should definitely be classed among the less equal in society. Clearly utterly deprived. Given earlier threads, we’re probably utterly depraved as well. Oddly enough, I rather enjoy spiting Nulab and revel in being depraved – sorry, deprived.

        • 107
          NewGirl says:

          I love being depraved :-)
          NuLab probably got us down as subversive for not having microwaves..Hurray!

        • 113
          Agent 99 says:

          No microwave oven?

          How do you dry the poodle then?

        • 117
          Engineer says:

          There is probably a secret Nulab specification for the citizenry of the nation, in which everyone is equal before the microwave, and indeed, the flat-screen telly (haven’t got one of those, either). Such details will be logged on your ID card, and anybody expressing non-standard desires such as gas ovens or even (indrawn breath) an AGA, will be taken away for corrective re-education in a PFI-funded City Academy, even if they live miles from a city.

          This must be resisted by all free-thinking subjects of Her Majesty. Long live the dream of one day being owned by an AGA, and of owning an old and rather dodgy 15″ portable colour telly! Down with Nulab!

        • 153
          A Dog-lover says:

          For heaven’s sake Agent 99. If you don’t have a microwave for your poodle, simply select the delicate fabrics programme on your washing machine. For rotweilers or mastiffs I find the heavily soiled whites and non-fast colour wash usually does the trick.

        • 156
          NewGirl says:

          what about dalmations? Do their spots run?

        • 157
          thick as thieves says:

          engineer, if I buy you a microwave old man will you stop fucking moaning and bitching all the time and shut the fuck up?
          the only thing you are poor in is the brain department.
          ditto new girl.
          stop clogging up Guido’s threads and fuck off to conservativefoam.
          chatter chatter chatter you c’unts have more chatter going on than osama bin laden for fucks sake.
          FUCK OFF YOU BORING C’UNTS THIS IS NOT YOUR HOTMAIL ACCOUNT!
          I thought you would have got the message with all the modding but you are such fucking DENSE TORY SCUM TROLLS that you have not taken the hint.
          your strategy of hanging around chatting until the general election campaign picks up when you will really start churning out your troll propaganda shit is not going to happen here I am happy to say.
          YOU’VE BEEN RUMBLED MOTHERFUCKERS

          THE LIST
          STEVE EXPAT FUCKING TRAMP
          NEW GIRL MARRIED SLUT
          ENGINEER TIRED OLD C’UNT
          NELL FRIGID OLD SPINSTER MAYBE A COMPUTER PROGRAMME
          ANON MISOG LESBIAN WHO PRETENDS TO BE A MAN(V.WEIRD)

          FUCK OFF WANKERS! YOU TORY TROLL Hoons HAVE BEEN RUMBLED!
          PLEASE GO TO CONSERVATIVEFOAM DO IT NOW YOU SPASTICS!
          YOU ARE BORING FUCK OFF!
          thankyou.

        • 159
          Engineer says:

          As for the poodle-drying, I didn’t know you had to eat them dry.

        • 164
          Engineer says:

          Good evening, TaT. Have you had a good day?

        • 166
          Steve Expat says:

          …stop clogging up Guido’s threads and fuck off…

          Couldn’t say it better myself TwAT – now please do, and let those of us who wish to engage in sensible debate do that in peace…

        • 168
          freddie flintoff says:

          the thing thats wrong is that they dont fear us lads , thats the way it should be

        • 186
          Agent 99 says:

          Lucky kitten survives washer spin

          http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090708/tuk-lucky-kitten-survives-washer-spin-6323e80.html

          oo errr!…Should have microwaved the pussy instead I guess

        • 190
          thick as thieves says:

          that rattled the cripples cages, eh?

        • 208
          TiT for Tat says:

          I hope you don’t mind if I put a word in for TaT. Last week he won £190 on his Euro Millions ticket and decided to splash it all on a trip to Boujis on Saturday night. There he met a girl called Caroline who misunderstood his predictions of a hung parliament. Twelve hours and two bottles of Tesco’s best Méthode Champenois later, his house was surrounded by a Bullingdon Club posse. With Caroline pushing for home improvements, TaT snuck out the back door to buy a Mars bar. The Bullo boys were waiting for his return. Caroline was rescued and taken for a quick check-up at St Mary’s Paddington. Tat is very sore and liable to lash out at all Tories. Please show some understanding.

        • 210
          Engineer says:

          Yes TaT. We’re quaking in our boots.

        • 227
          Doctor Mick says:

          tat put the cripples in irons eh?

        • 259
          thick as thieves says:

          you don’t really understand this blogging lark do you engineer.
          we shall let the reader decide your fate.
          but seriously though, you would be best advised to fuck off to conservativefoam.
          you’ve been rumbled and your TORY SCUM BULLSHIT will not be tolerated here.
          you are making a right fool of yourself old man.
          you silly old c’unt.
          fuck off wanker.
          thankyou.

        • 266
          thick as thieves says:

          well we have to restrain you in irons when we give you your treatment.
          otherwise you try to indecently assault the nurses.
          and you are a cripple, so, to address your question: put the cripples in irons?
          the answer is ocourse – yes!
          bit rich coming from a c’unt like you who celebrates the murder of Palestinian children by war criminal israeli soldiers innit?
          we will accelerate your treatment and repeat your electric shocks every half hour for the rest of the month.
          fuck it, let’s make that every fifteen minutes.
          and if that doesn’t work we will have to get a chaplain in to excorcise the satan spirit that lurks in your soul you blackmagic motherfucker.
          honestly, you zionist nazis and the bn p nazis are birds of a feather.
          maybe you should form a coalition party?

        • 268
          Steve Expat says:

          OKay TwAT, have it your way.

          Here’s one reader standing up for Engineer, and saying that you are a complete fucking trolling c.unt who should know when he is beaten and head off back to his cave.

        • 277
          thick as thieves says:

          fuck off tramp.

        • 284
          thick as thieves says:

          you’ve been rumbled steve.
          DOH!
          what a silly fucking hobo tramp!
          you c’unts will have to come up with new names now.
          excellent, thick as thieves collects more tory troll skulls to hang on his wall.
          THAT IS WHY I AM TOP BOY AND YOU C’UNTS ARE SCUM.
          you lose tramp.
          tough shit imbecile.

        • 302
          Engineer says:

          You are on form tonight, aren’t you TaT.

          Thanks, Steve.

        • 304
          NewGirl says:

          Wow. I leave the blog for a couple of hours, and Twat gets apoplectioce with the misery of missing me. I’m so sorry Engineer, SteveExpat, Misog, Nell, he’s taking his distress out on my blog mates. He can’t help it, he won’t be happy till I agree to talk to him.
          Twat darling, I PROMISE I love you the most xxxx

        • 306
          NewGirl says:

          But in the real world piss off Twat. I’m with Steve, Engineer’s worth zillions of you you twisted retard.

        • 310

          Gesture politics and hysteria are a noxious mix. This has nothing to do with a proper examination of the territory or solutions fit for purpose. This has everything to do with the campaigns of yesterday playing in people’s minds.

          I’ve had a tough life, but I managed to perfect my work on graphics fidelity and strategic programming. Why? Because I didn’t whinge, I got on with the job – just like Gordon is doing.

          Chill out. Relax.

        • 321
          Engineer says:

          Thanks NG – but TaT doesn’t bother me. Sticks and stones, and all that. I’ve been insulted by professionals.

          On the plus side, I can now sit back and enjoy a bit of expert TaT-baiting. Go to it, NG!

        • 327
          Steve Expat says:

          Ah – we have a TwAT and a CEH, double team trolling!

        • 330
          NewGirl says:

          :-) Twat! Here boy! Twat!

        • 331
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          I think they are into double dipping..!!

        • 334
          Steve Expat says:

          NewGirl, do you think it’s past the trolls’ bedtime yet?

        • 336
          NewGirl says:

          Misog! Where you beeeeeeennnn?? You missed the pub earlier!

        • 338
          NewGirl says:

          Tat always slopes off when I log on. Its that fancying me madly thing, he can’t cope with me directly. He skulks off until I’m gone …

        • 341
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          No, I was there you just didn’t see me.

        • 342
          Steve Expat says:

          lol, he fancies you so much he doesn’t want to talk to you!

        • 343
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          Really good thread, enjoyed it and improved the porn stats no end.

        • 344
          NewGirl says:

          Was that you chatting up the barmaid round the back?!

        • 347
          NewGirl says:

          Thing is about Twat, he’s never had a girlf, so he’s still stuck in that schoolboy thing when you are mean to the girl you really like…

          He blushes furiously when I address him (everything about Twats furious) so its much easier for him if he sneaks on and acts mean after I’ve gone…

        • 348
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          Yeah, sorry. She’s a lesbian and well, you know..! See you’ve been outed toooo? Foot and mouth problems, so says tWat.

        • 349
          NewGirl says:

          Well Misog as you well know, I’m dead ringer for a 45 year old bachelor… :-)

        • 353
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          And your being unfaithful to your husband..? I think I’ve sussed tWat out, he’s impotent and can only get it on if he’s really, really agressive, otherwise it’s………………?

        • 355
          Steve Expat says:

          NewGirl 343, I’m still laughing!
          Still no sign of the trolls here though, although there’s a new one turned up right at the bottom of the page…

        • 356
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          It’s a 0% increase in defltion. Poor tWat.

        • 357
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          Should have read, 0% increase in deflation.

        • 358
          NewGirl says:

          Wasn’t that the yorkshire Ripper’s problem too Misog?

        • 361
          NewGirl says:

          Well I think he’s gone chaps. Mission complete! Do call if he bothers you again, its a pleasure to frighten him off.

        • 363
          Anonymous Misogynist says:

          You know better than me mate, lesbian to old bloke, that is.

        • 365
          NewGirl says:

          I may be a bachelor with BO but I AM also having a lesbian adulterous affair Misog.. Which I actually think goes to show what good multi taskers we girls are…

        • 368
          NewGirl says:

          Can I have a bit of Spanish before i go?!

    • 161
      PT Barnham's shit shoveller says:

      I guess not having a car makes me poor and green in the eyes of the government (just ignore the fact that I’m denied a driving licence on health grounds). Damn, I’m helping their lies…damn statistics.

  23. 75
    The Master says:

    Have they got any helicopters in the gift shop?
    Brigadier Ed Butler who resigned after seving in Afghanistan[personal reasons it's claimed....] has just told Jon Snow the troops are well equiped but it’s choppers they need to move men around. We need choppers, when do we need them? Now! Now! Now!

  24. 76

    People call on the Prime Minister to change, yet, the realities of finance and age are staring people in the face and this drives them to beat the Prime Minister even harder. This may create a short-term thrill and make people feel better but solves nothing. Better just to follow the Prime Minister’s lead and get on with it.

    Almost everyone has a car that doesn’t break down, wears new clothes, and has a flat screen television. Pensioners no longer die of cold, and we have more and better food in the shops than ever. If indeed we are moving into more practical and sociable times, embracing contentment would be an appropriately Confucian ideal.

  25. 77

    Almost everyone has a car that doesn’t break down, wears new clothes, and has a flat screen television. Pensioners no longer die of cold, and we have more and better food in the shops than ever. If indeed we are moving into more practical and sociable times, embracing contentment would be an appropriately Confucian ideal.Better just to follow the Prime Minister’s lead and get on with it.

    • 105
      NewGirl says:

      Phew. Thank goodness the great unwashed have all got flat screen tvs Charles…

      YOU TOSSER! Most of them would be far better getting off their arses and working for a living instead of watching Jerry Springer for tips…

      You really are the biggest buffoon I have ever known. Though I am actually sure you’re just a piss taker, and having a huge laugh when you wind people up. Yes, you must be. The flat screen TV jibe is a giveaway.

      • 118
        Birds Eye Pensioner says:

        Pensioners no longer die of cold

        WTF? Liar!! yes they dam well do and more than in the past. Its just Pravda sweep it under the carpet

        So Fuck right off Kunt.

    • 162
      thick as thieves says:

      FUCK OFF WANKER I SWEAR TO GOD I WOULD HANG A C’UNT LIKE YOU GIVEN HALF THE CHANCE AND THE BACKING OF A COURT.
      AND IF YOU ARE A TORY TROLL, WHICH IS HIGHLY LIKELY YOU WOULD GET THE SAME FUCKING TREATMENT C’UNT.
      FUCK OFF WANKER.
      JUST FUCK OFF.

      • 174
        Dack Blog says:

        ‘The backing of a COURT’??

      • 225
        Doctor Mick says:

        tat likes them well hung

        • 270
          thick as thieves says:

          currently you are losing doctor dildo.
          and you will make up no ground whatsoever with that type of homophobic nonsense.
          fucking hell, not only are you zionist nazis racist and sexist but now we discover you are also a gay basher.
          for fucks sake you really are a scummy piece of shit doctor dildo.
          a real inadequate c’unt.
          your mother must have been a real whore.

        • 281
          Doctor Mick says:

          Leave mam out of it.

        • 289
          Doctor Mick's Slut Mother (the bitch suck it real good, just like a pro!) says:

          But I am a whore and if anyone is interested I will suck fuck and do anal all night long for a couple of rocks of crack.
          And I mean everything.
          And son, you do know that you are the product of a night spent with one of my punters?
          You didn’t, oh, sorry.
          Well you do now you bastard!

        • 313
          Troll Basher says:

          Nice

        • 316
          Engineer says:

          Uncalled for. Insulting other people’s parents is right out of order.

        • 324
          Anonymous says:

          #
          148
          the morning star says:
          June 27, 2009 at 10:06 pm

          NEWSFLASH

          thick as thieves, notorious blogger and relentless tosser, is in fact Lionel Blair, former star of Give Us a Clue, a crap 80’s wankfest ‘entertainment’ based on the old, very old game of charades.

          His mum, who sits in a rocking chair in his basement, has been dead for about 15 years.

          #
          167
          thick as thieves says:
          June 27, 2009 at 10:17 pm

          leave mother out of it.

          #
          177
          the morning star says:
          June 27, 2009 at 10:28 pm

          OK

          #
          193
          Scots Junket says:
          June 27, 2009 at 10:55 pm

          Yae would nae want to get yerself stabbed in the shower by a loon wearing his mammy’s clothing morning star….

          #
          197
          Troll Basher says:
          June 27, 2009 at 10:58 pm

          I agree, mothers should be left out of troll wars.

          But, thick as, you called me a “motherfucker” above. Isn’t that an eensty peensty bit hypocritical???

        • 325
          NewGirl says:

          you are the sickest individual I have ever met Twat….your mind is a sewer of twisted filth. Luckily you are also far too dim to do any real damage. But reading your posts is like watching a video nasty….Shit story, no quality in production; all hiding behind the shock factor…Sadly, you no longer shock, you just bore.

        • 440
          tat says:

          your mum’s a slut aswell new girl.
          like mother like daughter.
          it is so easy rattling these cripples cages.
          stupid trolls.

      • 295
        Mr Slater's Parrot says:

        QUA-A-AAAARRK! KRIPPLEKRIPPLEKRIPPLE! AH-ERRRK

        • 457
          SPANK MY ARSE AND CALL ME THICKIE says:

          How the fuck can YOU ! Thick as Shit Call anyone a Fucking Homophobe You Fucking Hate everybody you sad sad bastard !

      • 456
        RED KEN : EVERYBODY'S EQUAL says:

        WOW you can swear you must be ARD !

    • 169
      PT Barnham's shit shoveller says:

      I must be living in a parallel universe, then, Charlie.

      Repeat the mantra – all for the best in the best of all possible worlds.

    • 279

      Pensioners no longer die of cold

      Not in the summer, Charles. but, still, old people DO die from the cold. And other people, too, not just the old.

  26. 80
    Hardwidget's Nurse says:

    Thank you for all the encouraging notes you’ve sent me about Charles’ “compulsion”, and how to deal with it.

    It’s been a difficult few days, at one point I had to have him physically restrained as he simply couldn’t keep his hands off his poor, red, screaming, shredded member.

    All the more embarrassing as this was during a shopping trip to Morrisons.

    Today, when he saw his beloved Gordon standing there, proud, gibbering, in parliament, he was straight upstairs and I knew that he’d be frigging himself senseless in a matter of seconds. Sure enough, I was greeted by the hideous sight of his vinegar-stroke face as I walked through the door. Needless to say, I also had to duck to avoid the “spray.”

    Poor Charles, I’ll try to sedate him a little more tonight, in the hope that he doesn’t pester you, but please, remember, he is afflicted with a compulsion, which in victorian times would have seen him locked away.

    Sadly we are now less enlightened….

    • 93

      There’s a lot of noise and bullishness from the mob but anyone who pays attention to that contrariness and negativity is being a fool to themselves. Things change and people adapt so I expect these issues will be dealt with. It’s nothing to worry about.

      I didn’t invent graphics fidelity by just sitting on my ass and moaning like the Tories on this site. Perhaps you’d like to consider that.

      • 100

        There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave people by force, socialism — by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide

      • 108
        NewGirl says:

        Ha ha he is actually very funny (the real one) when you read him.

    • 129
      caesars wife says:

      bring back victorian times or even roman ones in my case

  27. 83
    labour- great customer of the IMF says:

    The unions might be good for the people who are in the unions but it doesn’t do a thing for the people who are unemployed. Because the union keeps down the number of jobs, it doesn’t do a thing for them – BUT GIVES NICE HOUSES AND PENSIONS TO THE UNION BARONS

  28. 85
    Anonymous says:

    Gordon Brown’s lack of fiscal responsibility will damage our ability to compete, and mean further tax rises for hard working families

  29. 86
    Anonymous says:

    Welfare’s purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence

  30. 88
    Harriet(all men should be neutered at birth)Harperson says:

    A society that puts equality before freedom will get neither. A society that puts freedom before equality will get a high degree of both

  31. 90
    Aaron A Aardvark says:

    10/10.

  32. 91

    Socialists cry “Power to the people”, and raise the clenched fist as they say it. We all know what they really mean—power over people, power to the State

  33. 95
    Professor Tubrainz says:

    Ever so slightly OT, but I just watched England’s Chief Medical Officer Sir Liam Donaldson in a 5 minute interview on C4 news and he didn’t blink once. It looked rather unnerving. If it’s a medical condition I’m sure he of all people would know about it. I was hoping Jon Snow would pretend to throw something at him and shout BOO! just to check that he wasn’t an alien robot from the same planet as Brown.

    • 130
      Anonymous says:

      He is quite a scary man. With a lot of power.

      • 142
        nell says:

        Isn’t he the one who is trying to generate all this panic over swine flu and getting annoyed because we all keep going calmly about our days?

        • 307
          Professor Tubrainz says:

          I see in a profile of Liam Donaldson in the Observer (05.07.09) it says:
          ‘He relates a story of when he was a surgeon in the late Sixties….’

          But he was born on 3rd May 1949, is it really possible for someone to be a practicising surgeon at the age of 20?

          I wonder if he has any shares in the company Gilead Inc. that holds the Tamiflu licence. It’s interesting to see George Schultz, the ex US Defence Secretary is on the board of this company and Donald Rumsfeld was a board member until a few years ago with a large shareholding.

          I wonder if Obama, the Mexican President and Gordon Brown have shares in this company too.

  34. 97

    Making the rich poorer does not make the poor richer, but it does make the state stronger – and it does increase the power of officials and politicians, power more menacing, more permanent and less useful than market power within the rule of law. Inequality of income can only be eliminated at the cost of freedom. The pursuit of income equality will turn this country into a totalitarian slum

    12 years of hard labour have actually achieved this.

    • 99
      Doctor Mick says:

      Spot on Charlie!

    • 102
      Hardwidget's Nurse says:

      Oh dear, there’s no stopping him now, he’s in full frenzy mode. There’s bound to be more “spray” soon, and that hideous vinegar stroke face of his. Eyes scrunched up like Peter Sellers imitating a chinaman, and a fixed shit-eating grin. It’s not a pretty sight.

    • 253
      Bob Scrimpshaw says:

      Are there more Hardwidges than there are Stigs?

  35. 111
    Agent 99 says:

    Gordon Brown has insisted that British forces have the resources needed to “do the job” in Afghanistan.

    So Piss off Danat what do you know abour armies and fighting and stuff. We in Nulabour always know better.

    • 143
      So17 says:

      8 fucking years these c*nts have had to get the balance right on helicopters.
      Iraq has obviously been detremental to the Afghan campaign and lets be honest that wasn’t our fight either. Post 9/11 we could have shown a leg and sent a Battalion to Afghanistan and kept them up north like the Germans.
      But no New Labour War mongerers go the full hog with other sons blood.
      Blair and Brown YOU BASTARDS.

    • 152
      caesars wife says:

      my favourite bit , was that afghan army and police were not yet ready to do the job , Eh !!

      we have been in Afghanistan longer than Iraq and the Iraqis so far can do it themselves .

      Why cant the Afghans ?? I smell the a wrat

      • 165
        PP de Hammelin says:

        I smell a wrodent too. A wreally big one. It’s just rong.

      • 218
        A state can't fail if it's never been one. says:

        Because it isn’t a country and being tribal they hate each other and anybody from anywhere who stays longer than half an hour. Their interpretation of Islam just gives them the fuel.

      • 244
        Doctor Mick says:

        Allegiances are sold to the highest bidder. If you want a little insight into the way the region works I suggest a book called The Carpet Wars by Christopher Kremmer (an Aussie).

        You cannot impose democracy like some McDonalds franchise. It will never work in Afghanistan which is still in its Middle Ages. It is not that I disagree with kicking out the arab terrorists – that’s done – but by now we really should understand that the locals don’t like being told what to do. Who does?

    • 160
      Steve Expat says:

      What does Dannat know – after all he’s only the leader of the 9,000 men out there?

      No, of course, Broon has to know best.

      Guess who the public are believing here, Gordoom you C.U.N.T

    • 226
      Dack Blog says:

      Newsnight is an Afghanistan ’special’ – based on the poll they did with the Guardian. I’m surprised that 46% of the population supposedly support the action. I’m wondering if it was an ambiguous question, easily confusd with whether you support the troops or not.

  36. 112

    There’s a few people shouting and a few people losing the plot, and a lot of media chatter about those attention seekers but I get no sense the media has turned against Labour. It’s just another attention bubble and will burst when people have burned themselves out.

    The Princess Diana thing was similar and people are now faintly embarassed about that. Some of the hardcore will cling on as they’ve invested so much ego in it but even they will have to let go when it becomes more obvious how absurd it is. It’s all a bit of a drama and that’s about it.

  37. 121
    Hardwidge's Hemorroid says:

    “I get no sense the media has turned against Labour”

    Oi! you up there!!! If you want to be taken seriously stop saying silly things.

  38. 123
    Anonymous says:

    Next Question.

    Does the shop accept £sterling or is it one of those Soviet wheezes that only take $US ?

    • 131
      Engineer says:

      Nope – only Gilts – which they buy back off you with freshly-photocopied five-pound notes.

  39. 128
    Hardwidge's Hemorroid says:

    Nope the shop is always empty as those grubby Labour M.P.s buy lots of the tat on offer -charging it to their expenses of course – to give to the natives in their Tribal Labour heartlands in return for votes

  40. 136
    Anonymous says:

    on a more serious note [ Lobbyists in scramble for tory insiders ] FT link
    when will the public get a chance to lobby any political party, surely we should be telling the politicians what we want done with our money, rather than politicians not telling us what they are doing with our cash.

    to hell with this I do not want to know whats in their manifesto, I want to bloody tell them what I/we want.

    All monies are our monies, they dont have any effin money

    • 141
      Engineer says:

      Well said – they manage OUR money on OUR behalf.

      A bit of listening by the political classes would be good.

  41. 145
    Dack Blog says:

    If it was a git shop there’d be a lot more choice.

  42. 148
    Hardwidge's Hemorroid says:

    1. Teaching maths in 1970

    A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100.
    His cost of production is 4/5 of the price.
    What is his profit?

    2. Teaching maths in 1980

    A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100.
    His cost of production is 80% of the price.
    What is his profit?

    3. Teaching maths in 1990

    A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100.
    His cost of production is £80.
    How much was his profit?

    4. Teaching maths in 2000

    A logger sells a truckload of timber for £100
    His cost of production is £80 and his profit is £20.
    Your assignment: Underline the number 20.

    5. Teaching maths in 2005

    A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish
    and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of
    animals or the preservation of our woodlands.

    Your assignment: Discuss how the birds and squirrels might
    feel as the logger cut down their homes just for a measly
    profit of £20.

    6. Teaching maths in 2009

    A logger is arrested for trying to cut down a tree in case
    it may be offensive to Muslims or other religious groups not
    consulted in the felling licence. He is also fined £100 as
    his chainsaw is in breach of Health and Safety legislation
    and deemed too dangerous and could cut something. He has
    used the chainsaw for over 20 years without incident however
    he does not have the correct certificate of competence and
    is therefore considered to be a recidivist and habitual
    criminal. His DNA is sampled and his details circulated
    throughout all government agencies. He protests and is taken
    to court and fined another £100 because he is such an easy
    target. When he is released he returns to find Gypsies have
    cut down half his wood to build a camp on his land. He tries
    to throw them off but is arrested, prosecuted for harassing
    an ethnic minority, imprisoned and fined a further £100.

    While he is in jail the Gypsies cut down the rest of his
    wood and sell it on the black market for £100 cash. They
    also have a leaving BBQ of squirrel and pheasant and depart
    leaving behind several tonnes of rubbish and asbestos
    sheeting. The forester on release is warned that failure to
    clear the fly tipped rubbish immediately at his own cost is
    an offence. He complains and is arrested for environmental
    pollution, breach of the peace and invoiced £12,000 plus
    VAT for safe disposal costs by a regulated government
    contractor.

    Your assignment: How many times is the logger going to have
    to be arrested and fined before he realises that he is never
    going to make £20 profit by hard work, give up, sign onto
    the dole and live off the state for the rest of his life?

    • 151
      caesars wife says:

      claps

    • 154
      Steve Expat says:

      Very astute Sir :-)

    • 155
      hoof-hearted says:

      Brilliant!! :-)

    • 157
      Dack Blog says:

      I’d find that funny if it was a joke. Sadly it ain’t. But you did forget to mention that exams in maths are going modular, so if they fail the first time they can keep taking it again until they pass.

      • 170
        Dack Blog says:

        Oh, and in case it’s still too much of a challenge, exam boards circulate prep materials with pretty much the same questions – just dressed up in a different context.

        • 175
          Engineer says:

          Joking aside Dack, someone told me yesterday of a young apprentice who failed the maths module of his course. He resat the exam, and was slightly surprised to sit, second time round, exactly the same paper. Not surprisingly, he passed.

          Has this been known to happen in secondary education, too?

        • 183
          hoof-hearted says:

          I did hear of one school who gave out the exam papers with the answers on the back.

        • 185
          Dack Blog says:

          As far as I know, no – not the exact same paper. Not that I hang around the maths dept much. They always seem a bit – how do I put it – ‘on the spectrum’ to me.

        • 189
          Engineer says:

          Know exactly what you mean, but some of us don’t have much choice. Tool of the trade, and all that.

          As for the exam question, good to hear that some integrity remains.

        • 211
          Dack Blog says:

          My bro-in-law is an engineer – my nephew too (and a brilliant mathematician). And my ex was. They are/were very similar in a weird way. I know a few scientists too, same thing.

        • 246
          Engineer says:

          I utterly love engineering, and wouldn’t do anything else to earn a living. Even do engineering-type things in my spare time – or, at least, making things. Yes you do end up with a particular (analytical) way of thinking, but all walks of life shape you one way or another. For example, I can’t for the life of me understand the self-absorbtion of ‘actors’ – sure, I can understand that doing it well needs a modicum of ability and practice, but it’s dressing up and pretending to be somebody else when all’s said and done. Why they have to make so much fuss about it – Oscars, banging on about ‘talent’ – utterly beyond me.

          It takes all sorts to make the world go round, we all contribute as best we can. Be a sad world if we all thought and did the same.

        • 252
          Dack Blog says:

          I know – just interests me, different ‘types’. I do like a good bit of circa Victorian engineering myself.

        • 283
          Engineer says:

          Amazingly confident people, the Victorians – not afraid to have a go. Their failures are long forgotten, except for a few famous ones (Tay Bridge, for example), but they learned from those. They did more to shape the modern world, for good and ill, than almost any other era in history.

          It has been said that two basically Victorian creations, the tallship and the steam locomotive, are the nearest that mankind has come to creating art with things intended for practical use. Having worked with them, I’m not sure about the art of locos, though a largish steam loco working hard is certainly something that stirs my soul. Firing and driving them, which is something I used to do, is a feeling I can’t describe, but nothing else I’ve ever done with my clothes on comes close. I just make bits for them these days, but that’s challenging and immensely rewarding. But as one of my mates said, “It’s only the romance of steam when you’re sat with a mug of tea watching it go past”. Operating and maintaining them quickly makes you realise how far technology has advanced in a relatively short time, and how much better the world is for that. Still love ‘em, though.

      • 216
        Doctor Mick says:

        My lad retook it but found it harder second time round. Oo er but I hope he can keep the better of the two marks.

    • 178
      Anonymous says:

      post of the day !!!

    • 188

      Misleading comments like yours appeal to cluttered minds but in reality one can plot a direct line to stagnation of industry and social breakdown. This is something the usual suspects may want to reflect on before they throw their heels in the air and send their egos over the cliff of hubris.

      The police aren’t perfect and have made mistakes in the past. That’s something they need to accept if they’re to continue improving. The better pay they already have and Alan Johnson’s reducing the paperwork burden will help but I’d like to see better performance and community relations in place before they get an inflation busting pay deal.

      • 193
        freddie flintoff says:

        fuck off charles and rim gordons arse

      • 215
        caesars wife says:

        ALan Johnsons inflation busting pay deal !! i dont think her Majesties police force will take too kindly to Gordon Browns bankrupt country debt repayments .

    • 228
      Anonymous says:

      7. Teaching Maths 2017
      > أ المسجل تبيع حموله شاحنة من الخشب من اجل 100 دولار. صاحب تكلفة الانت=D 8ج من
      > الثمن. ما هو الربح له؟

  43. 167
    A big McMental with large lies says:

    Wacko Jocko is so much that poof in leather
    Butch, but you knew that he took it up the Hamptons

  44. 176
    resurgemus says:

    New poll Tories 41% Lab 27%

    http://www2.politicalbetting.com/

    • 196
      Agent 99 says:

      27% FFS what does this government have to do to change these peoples minds??

      • 220
        Steve Expat says:

        That’ll be the 6 million public sector workers and the countless millions more in the “Client State” that don’t dare vote for anyone else, ‘cos they know what’s coming if the Tories get in and spending has to come down substantially!

        • 222
          Doctor Mick says:

          That is the size of the Turkey Army.

        • 235
          Dack Blog says:

          Steve – this ‘public sector’ thing… I think we have to differentiate between the frontliners (like me) and the rest. I don’t know anyone at my level who’d vote Labour, even if they have done in the past. Some of us work hard for our money – there’s no way I’d get chance to be on here when I’m at work! – and do it for what we feel are the right reasons. All this anti-public sector indignation – we get enough shit as it is – if people think it’s such an easy option they’re welcome to give it a go. I reckon a good many wouldn’t last a week. I’ve – I’ve said before – had two private sector careers, and they were a piece of piss compared to what I do now. And better paid.

        • 263
          Steve Expat says:

          DB, you are right.

          There are a few on the front line (teachers and doctors mainly) who are not scared of the Tories. All the middle managers and quangocrats on the other hand, they are shitting themselves!

          Say 4 million then, for the sake of arguement. What we do know is that the public sector is 900,000 people bigger now than it was in 1997 – how many of those 900,000 are productive in the economy, and how many just seek to justify their existance by imposing crap on the rest of us (including those on the front line).

          The constant meddling and micromanagement, needs to stop, let the frontline professionals do what they have trained to do…

        • 269
          Anonymous says:

          the trouble is steve, there arnt any real jobs any more because we no longer make any thing.

        • 280
          Dack Blog says:

          If you cut the number of public sector workers who just get in the way you could cull 50% of the workforce, probably – and I imagine services would improve. Though frontliners, in my experience, wouldn’t vote Tory either. I’m not scared of the Tories, but I’m scared of what they’d do to education. If Labour stay in much longer and things carry on as they are I’m going back to a previous career (luckily I have that option). If the Tories get in, ditto.

        • 319
          Steve Expat says:

          DB, what is the chance of the next govt being neither Labour nor Tory?
          My jury is still out on DC but I think he should be given the benefit of the doubt for now – the best thing he has going for him is that he isn’t Broon and understands that spending is out of control and must fall quickly to avoid the IMF coming in!

        • 337
          Doctor Mick says:

          The next government will be Tory. The real unknown is who will be the Opposition?

      • 232
        Anonymous says:

        and the millions of immigrants living on handouts too

    • 285
      Sunonmars says:

      If thats a guardian poll, i’d say they probably been massaged a bit to make Brown look better going by the guardian these days.

  45. 180
    SS says:

    WHO is manipulating the USD/JPY.That’s a much more important question.

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  47. 194
    Agent 99 says:

    Whats the difference between a Nu Labour war and a conservative war? Max Hastings sums it up perfectly in his latest article in the mail

    “When Margaret Thatcher launched the Falklands War in 1982, she told the Treasury to give the services whatever they wanted to do the job. When that war was over, even though public spending was tight, she ordered that every lost ship and plane should be replaced”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1199275/MAX-HASTINGS-I-written-Army-40-years-Ive-known-bitterness.html

    • 200
      Anonymous says:

      I posted this earlier
      200
      Anonymous says:
      July 13, 2009 at 10:37 am
      A terrible indictment of a pathetic and corrupt government.
      Imagine the tories had commenced this war. The left would be all over the media now, CND where are they, indignant labour MP’s where are they?
      Remember the flack thatcher took just for defending british territory in the falklands and the pilloring she got with regard to the sinking of the belgrano. She made sure our troops were protected protecting sovereign territory. She never sold us a war like liarb and the soup did, and then when they were found out they managed somehow to kill the whistleblower.

      These kids joined the army because there are no real jobs. This is all they had.

      Milliband, darling, ainsworth, brown living off the fat of the land with their 2 and 3 houses paid for by the taxpayer sending young recruits to die in a foreign land. TO PROTECT US FROM THE PEOPLE THAT THEY LET IN HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. TRAITORS EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF THIS GOVERNMENT.

      • 209

        Fuck the opposition too for being spineless, supine and totally useless.

        Fuck Parliament.

      • 231
        So17 says:

        199:
        Bang on the money.
        I remember blow by blow documentarys on which way the fucking General Belgrano was sailing in or out of the exclusion zone.
        A film and drama which were not positive at all.
        What about the SAS shooting in Gibralter, fuck me the hoo ha made about that including an historic documentary ‘Death on the rock’.
        The Left wing smart arse celebs and rent a slags are obvious by their absence concerning Iraq/Afghanistan.

        • 238
          Anonymous says:

          you are spot on pal.

          I never knew the left to be so quiet when wars are involved, except of course whne it is their just war!

          so we know after all now don;t we, they can fight their wars and every body elses wars are so unjust arnt they?

          hypocrites every single one of them.

          the war is unjust but our boys as usual, truly magnificent. Lions led by corrupt deceitful scum

        • 276
          Doctor Mick says:

          It is a fact that the Forces have been so depleted by Labour that we could not conduct a campaign like the Falklands now. We’d lose.

  48. 197
    Hardwidge's Hemorroid says:

    “and Alan Johnson’s reducing the paperwork burden”

    Oi Charlie boy! Are you about to change horses? sniffed the air? Can see that The Brown terror is a dead man walking?

    I am on to you Charlie – you only infest this blog to distract men and women of good will from Labour’s antics by way of drawing fire on to yourself.

    We are on to you Charlie!

    • 205

      Your mind is raving at itself. Gordon Brown is the last chance Britain has to undo Tory mistakes and get a grip.

      Getting the facts, being flexible, and digging in for the long haul are easy when you want something but it’s remarkable how people lose their heads when they become too personally involved.

      Open your eyes…

      • 217
        caesars wife says:

        we have the facts Charlie , labour are toast !!

      • 236
        grobdj says:

        Brown said we have to get lending going to rescue the economy – in other words, spend, spend, spend and everything will be all right

        Well he’s wrong

        Open YOUR eyes Hardwidge

        People are earning less, spending less, borrowing less and therefore paying less tax.

        Deal with it

    • 230
      Anonymous says:

      an excellent post.labour 27% conservatives 41% keep up the good work everyonee.

      wont be long now.
      every comment helps another nail in the socialist coffin.

    • 248
      caesars wife says:

      same tactic being deployed on ther popular bloggs , onto them there as well

      • 273
        Doctor Mick says:

        I wonder who is organising this? Can’t be Brown as he doesn’t know what the fuck goes on under his nose.

        Dolly.

        • 370
          Dr Feelgood says:

          Ed Balls – he sort of gets online media, unlike Gordo and Mandy.

        • 379
          caesars wife says:

          but hes always trying to find out whats living in it with that digit of an excavator

  49. 200
    abdul mohamed yassi says:

    You doctor so you kno – never mod a muslim or p-p-pickup a penguin….have a break from insulting the profits of guido or merciful allah will fucking brake you into too goary bloody parts.

    http://troonite.co.uk

    all hope remains in s,p,e,d,o-s,h,or,t,s

  50. 202
    Doctor Mick says:

    The Bush Administration condoned “harsh interrogation techniques” including waterboarding, which is definately not torture. WShat did we do?

    The Brits made Iraqi detainees, “dance like Michael Jackson,” Bastards. It would be enough to make a cat laugh if an innocent hotel worker had not been beaten to death.

    There were no Weapons of Mass Destruction when we went in to Iraq nor any Al Qaeda, but they are there are now. There is also a power vacuum which Iran is just itching to fill.

    A total fucking fiasco.

  51. 203
    abdul mohamed yassi says:

    last messij for doctor mick

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  53. 234

    Brown has gone bonkers. Now tries to blame Afghanistan army for his blunders and Charles Clarke makes an arse of himself

    And the fact that Brown’s minions hide even facts like the amount of -say- pens that the Downing Street gift shop stocks shows that Brown’s Bonkerness is even more contagious than swine flu.

    However, there is a cure. An election. Soon.

  54. 237
    Scotched Earth Policy says:

    How many Chinooks are still sat in hangers at Odiham because the Twat would nod pay for the computer software to make them fly?

    • 245
      caesars wife says:

      that would explain his annoucement to upgrade chinnoks for service later this year , talk about horse , door bolted and stable !!

      • 453
        Zen and the art of going to the lavatory says:

        They obviously had them fitted with Charles E Hardup’s Graphics Fidelity Zen Operating System. No wonder they won’t fucking fly

    • 247

      The troops have enough equipment, Gordon has made that clear. Just stop moaning and have a little faith. You should be more concerned that the Tories have bullied their way in the door and are now trying to hawk their policies around the media. The real issue of substance they’re keeping well buried is that attitudes take an ice age to change.

      As I’ve commented here before, it takes a minimum of 5 years to make a significant personal change, 10 for an organisation, and 20 for a community. The science just isn’t on the side of the nasty party being deep cleaned yet. They’re faking it.

      • 251
        caesars wife says:

        Should have given them the money charles when they wanted it , not after , if it only takes 6 months to refit these chinnoks with correct computer upgrades why did he risk our lads lives by not doing it earlier .

        Mod requests will show it charlie . admitt you are wrong

      • 282
        Mayonnaise_Hater says:

        Anyone remember Field Marshal Douglas Haig of the Somme?

        “The nation must be taught to bear losses. No amount of skill on the part of the higher commanders, no training, however good, on the part of the officers and men, no superiority of arms and ammunition, however great, will enable victories to be won without the sacrifice of men’s lives. The nation must be prepared to see heavy casualty lists.” 1916

        Do we really want to go there? Do we need to win hearts and minds of rocks and poppy plantations?

        If Helmand province is the boil then evacuate it of civilians and lance it clinically (Clue WWII).

        • 298

          Jeez, Afghanistan’s just a spat on the historical scale of things and any mature stakeholder in the relationship should see this and roll with the ball. Thank the dead for their sacrifice but, remember, life is for the living.

      • 300

        Charles, old chap…

        Please follow this link and follow the advice of the nice man:-

        http://www.superficialgallery.com/Celebs/albums/displayimage.php?album=663&pos=4

    • 257
      Anonymous says:

      you are absolutely right. liebour sending young men to their deaths without the right equipment

    • 350
      ArmyMum says:

      Generous Gorgon have increased the number of choppers in Afghanistan by a massive 60% , frigging bravo, approx 30 choppers with possibly 10 chinooks according to figures suggested by BBC http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8148174.stm

      How on earth he has the gall to state over and over that the troops are adequately equipped, I really don’t know.

      • 362
        Dr Feelgood says:

        Don’t take these Labour stats at face value. The percentage increases they cite are for increased flying hours – this could be achieved by cutting back on maintenance.

        Increased flying hours does not mean increased capacity for a particular mission (see Newsnight tonight for the ex-Para office discussing having to wait 40+ minutes under fire for his whole unit to be delivered).

        • 375
          ArmyMum says:

          Thank you Dr Feelgood, I don’t believe a word of the carefully massaged message that Gorgon and his minions spew out – my remark lacked the angry tone it usually has when it come to liebour.

    • 445
      Anonymous says:

      eight.

  55. 255
    Small bear says:

    There are 50 chinooks which could be used to support The Boys in the Stan. I believe that they are at Boscombe Down but I don’t know for sure. As for the survey the B.B.C asked people whether they supported the troops not whether they supported the war. We all support the troops but opinion on the war itself is divided.What is for sure is that the M.O.D. bought the wrong kind of vehicles again.They should have bought Bull Mastiffs as they offer excellent protecton from I.E.D.s. but Gogon the Moron was too tight to spend any money.After all what does he care about the lives of our young men. do you think that new labour would have spent more money if the Army was composed primarily of women in order to appease the feminazi vote???

    • 267
      Speckled Bob says:

      I live in East London. Every day,Chinooks fly over us,and i’ve seen them land at Woolwich and Finsbury. Who are they transporting? Why are’nt they where they’re needed?

  56. 256
    davidmaclean1986 says:

    ++Nerd Alert. Cannot compute geekiness++

    Good video, though. It’s a matter of principle and I’m glad to see Dizzy’s almost got to the bottom of it.

    The price of these gift shop items will have gone through the roof in the political nerdsphere after this publicity.

    • 294
      What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

      And here’s what he wants to do to improve LabourList:

      My first week:

      1. Spend 10 grand on a makeover. New servers, back end content manager, and some spiffy templates, graphics furniture, and decent stock photos.
      2. Get Peter Mandelson to do a videocast series on dancing.
      3. Hire a top photographer to get Jacqui Smith naked and run a story on the essence of politics, art, and life. [...]

      It’s obviously so daring, so dangerous, so off the wall stupid the bozo who hires me is facing meltdown of the entire Labour party, ruined careers, and urban jokes their grandchildern will laugh about in the playground. No, I can quite safely say I’m not going on any short list.

  57. 258

    Want a better world? Be better people. And that’s not something to blame on the government, or your neighbour, or some trans-national corporation, or foreigners. That’s you staring back from the mirror, buddy. If someone is wrong headed or emotive, that influences the people around them. In turn, that ripples out into a wider community, and it feeds up the chain to big business, politics, and the media. Maybe you can’t change the world but you can change yourself. If nothing else it’s a start.

  58. 261
    Hardwidget's Nurse says:

    Come on Charles, time for bed. Now, just let me get these straps on your arms, to keep your naughty hands from pounding that poor, tortured cock all night.

    Oh and take these tablets, dear, they will help you sleep better and stop you staining your nightie….

    • 265
      Anonymous says:

      LABOUR, STILL SENDING OUR TROOPS TO THEIR DEATHS

      • 299

        As I’ve already said just a minute ago:

        Afghanistan’s just a spat on the historical scale of things. Any mature stakeholder in the relationship should see this and roll with the ball. Thank the dead for their sacrifice but remember, life is for the living.

        • 314
          What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

          Die now, you unspeakable yahoo. Thank you for your sacrifice.

  59. 264
    Anonymous says:

    LABOUR 27% CONSERVATIVES 41%

    NOT LONG TO GO NOW, THE CORRUPT DECEITFUL LIEBOUR GOVERNMENT REPLACED BY THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. THANK GOD

    • 287
      Sunonmars says:

      and thats a freaking Guardian poll, must be way worse in real terms.

    • 378
      Anon says:

      Who are these 27% scum? Oh, bugger, answered my own question. State aided rent-a-mob scum.

      Fuck them.

  60. 271
    Babar was a very poorly baby Elephant says:

    Guido,

    Could you possibly look at removing the “Reply” tag from wasters and pests such as CH and MB ?

    It’s the responses to their “posts” that fuels their ego, and if every post that these cretins make is left without response, then I think we may see a lot less of them in here.

    As it allows them to post their original nonsense then this avoids any claims of censorship, and I’m sure the rest of us will have no issue accepting that we cannot answer such insane ramblings that cannot be debated in rational terms in any case.

    Remove the reply option and starve them of the oxygen they crave.

    Rant over.

    • 309
      Anonymous Misogynist says:

      Porn stats dear boy, porn stats. Take alook at the last two threads without CEH and MB.
      Guido knows it makes sense!

    • 312
      Dancing Instructor says:

      and while you’re about it, include that one note samba thick as thieves – please

    • 354
      Dr Feelgood says:

      Hardwidge is a nut and replying to him encourages him. Agree that he should be ignored.

      Master Baiter is just a shill for New Labour – possibly he is Jonty Pryor of LabourList and acquaintance of Alex Smith, Derek Draper and Lindsay Hoyle MP for Chorley. Possibly an Ed Balls sponsored activity solely to disrupt this blog – clearly earns no votes for Labour.

      • 409
        jgm2 says:

        Both Hardwidge (as he appears here) and MB are Tory spoofs/trolls. Designed to energise all your efforts to drive Labour into the pages of history.

        Jolly fine job they’re doing too.

  61. 278
    What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

    On LabourList I found this comment about the poor design of the website:

    I bet you stick with Taobase and the Tory trolls are still running riot in here in another 3 months. You’ve had long enough to kick up a gear and the corporatese comment isn’t what I’d call inspiring. It’s a mirror of a collapsing government being run over by an opposition with a free pass. Wake up.
    Charles Hardwidge @ 5:07 pm, Wed 8th Apr 2009

    Not quite such a positive spin, eh?

    • 296

      Labour has got its act together and worked out a better plan for the future since then. Even at their worst Labour are still in a better state to govern than the Tories.

      Now run along and don’t choke on your sweets.

      • 301
        Freddie Fisherman says:

        Hey ! Over here guys.
        CEH is a biter … reeled him right in and done up like a kipper.
        Kudos.

      • 305
        lolol says:

        Charles,Charley my old fruit loop,still telling fibs I see,you told us a while back you would leave this site,seeing your a computer professional can you tell me how to get rid of a picture of your lieing corrupt mate Brown off my pc it’s still driving me mad seeing his mush every time I switch the thing on.

      • 311
        What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

        So you’re saying that in April the government were collapsing. And in July everything’s hunky dory?

        Ha Ha!

        Every time you post, I’m going to remind you and everyone here of what you really think.

        “[LabourList is] a mirror of a collapsing government being run over by an opposition with a free pass. Wake up. “

        • 317
          What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

          Oh, and also, what kind of disturbed mind could conjure these ideas, even when jesting about them as improvements to LabourList?

          2. Get Peter Mandelson to do a videocast series on dancing.
          3. Hire a top photographer to get Jacqui Smith naked and run a story on the essence of politics, art, and life.

        • 320
          horny bastard says:

          Now hang on a min. Charles is a KNOBHEAD alright but JACQBOOTS hasgot great tits!!!!!!!!!!!!11

        • 376
          NewGirl says:

          You are a star What CEH really believes. RESPECT for discomforting the prick – the first time I’ve seen it done. Collapsing government, hey Charles?!!

        • 462
          SPANK MY ARSE AND CALL ME THICKIE says:

          YEH ! Jackboots tits make her look 20 years younger ! HOW SO ? When she takes her bra off her tits hit the floor that fast , it pulls all the wrinkles out of her face !

      • 332
        What Charles Hardwidge Really Believes says:

        The aim here is to drive the unpleasant little parasite away, which, since he keeps changing IP address, may be the only way to shake him off. So, I am happy to report that Hardwidge is very hurt by people pretending to be him. I quote the man himself from LabourList (where they don’t like him either):

        “Also, I’ve been singled out and am being impersonated on Gudio [sic] Fawkes blog. My content is being ripped off and some guy is trashing my name. Labour List let through so much junk and some very, very personal remarks and promoting Guido Fawkes is just an insult too far.

        “Don’t lecture me on the internet, boy. I’ve been at this game way, way longer than you. If you think drowning out trolling creates a good environment for discussion you’re wrong. All it does is drive ordinary people away for the sake of page hits. This experience has been consistent across newsgroups, forums, and blogs for 20 years. Labour List is nothing new or special.
        Charles Hardwidge @ 4:20 pm, Thu 4th Jun 2009″

        Bless.

  62. 288

    Brown took cheap option despite plea for boost to troops

    When Gordon Brown was presented with four options on how best to boost the British campaign in Helmand, he chose the cheapest, authoritative sources disclosed yesterday.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6703626.ece

    What a total Hoon.

  63. 291
    Harriet(all men should be neutered at birth)Harperson's political Humbug says:

    Harman looks to put herself out of a job as she says there are too many southerners on public bodies. so will she resign?

    Prosecuting Northerners

    Hattie Harman, the Isambard Kingdom Brunel of social engineering, wants to add Northerners to her growing list of persecuted minorities.

    She says privileged Southerners are over-represented on public bodies.

    So when can we expect this privately-educated, daughter of a Harley Street surgeon, niece of the Earl of Longford, member of the metropolitan elite, to tender her resignation?

  64. 308
    Hardwidge's Hemorroid says:

    What about us West Country Boys? always being portrayed as village idiots? AND!!! for god’s sake we have the Welsh next door!!

    I am not on a public body (and I would not like to be on Harriet’s body either come to that). When have you heard a proper west country accent in Westminster? – its full of bloody Jocks, northeners and Welsh!!! What is that woman on???

  65. 318
    Peter says:

    Could it be that the lucky winners of the quarterly No 10 Art Competition will receive free goodies from the Gift Shop?

    Wow!!!

  66. 322
    Steve Expat says:

    O/T (completely) Space shuttle launch scrubbed again due to weather. That’s five times now they’ve scrubbed!! Maybe tomorrow or Wednesday…

    • 323
      Anon says:

      Who cares?

      • 328
        GORDON I WANNA TEDDY BEAR says:

        WE MAY FIND THE OUTASPACE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON OTHER PLANETS AND SAY HELLO OUTA SPACE PEOPLE WE YOU BE OUR FREENDS.

      • 335
        Bzzzz says:

        Its much more interesting than anything Charles has to say…

      • 352
        Steve Expat says:

        For those that might, next attempt is Weds at 22:50 UK time.

        I care because it’s good to see us stretching what it is possible to do, shame the Brits and Europeans still haven’t got round to any sort of space program. The current shuttle is 30 years old now but still at the peak of engineering achievement and endeavour.

        The last thing we Brits came up with was Concorde, which retired aged 40 a few years ago with no replacement in sight. Sad.

        • 399
          Anon says:

          I suppose, if it didn’t bankrupt the country twice over, craft could be used to launch Gordon Brown and anyone who supports the Labour Party on a one way trip.

        • 454
          Leave It To Probes And Telescopes says:

          Manned space flight is an expensive waste of taxpayers money. All the discoveries about our Solar sytem and the Universe have and are being made by ever cheaper and more sophisticated probes and ever bigger ground based telescopes with adaptive optics. The space shuttle and the international space station are white elephants and should be scrapped.

  67. 326
    GORDON I WANNA TEDDY BEAR says:

    MR GOOORDEEN BREWN MAY I PLZ HAVE A TEDDY BEAR FROM THE NEEMBER TEN DUNWING STREET SHOP PLZ.

  68. 329
    Paul loves Andy. He'll take it right up the phonebugger for him. says:

    Paxo taking a bit of a pasting on Newsnight trying to spew out the Government/BBC line on Afghanistan

  69. 333
  70. 340
    arthur says:

    o/t the squaddies in afghanistan are going through shit and all these fucking thieving politicians just try to point score off each other and as for the c**t of a general he should be concentrating on what he as got, if he has a true gripe he should resign, if not shut the fuck up and boost moral.

    • 346
      Steve Expat says:

      General Sir Dannatt is retiring next month, he has nothing to lose by stepping over the line, and he has not only his brave men and women, but public opinion on his side too.

      184 brave men and women. Rest in Peace. +

      • 351
        arthur says:

        dannatt is a cowardly twat, he should donate is huge pension to the British Legion and not use the poor bastards in afghanistan for political purpose.

        • 359
          Steve Expat says:

          Dannatt has done something quite extraordinary in speaking out. He cares more about his men who are dying in the field due to a lack of equipment, than he does about an extended career in the top echelons for himself.

    • 364

      I don’t kowtow to “authority” or “popularity”. Both are philosophically unsound. Sure, they can be quoted for people who need reassurance and they can help flesh things out but beyond that they mean something and nothing.

      Dannatt is trying to cause trouble. Brown should flex his muscles and kick him out for daring to disrupt the government.

    • 369
      caesars wife says:

      you are hardwidges stats slave

      • 374
        arthur says:

        caesars wife i congratulate you for your brief reply it is usually a long diatribe of crap. i hold most of you in contempt for siding with one side or the other; as an ex squaddie it makes me sick to read you views that give hope to the taliban reading you civvy liberal shit.

        • 380
          caesars wife says:

          arthur I congratulate you on being unable to tell your arse from your elbow tonight , we are not fighting with bullets , what i hate about you lot is the way you jump to conclusions about all civvies being more gay than you .

          It would take a troll to play the squaddie card on a civvie

        • 383
          arthur says:

          caesars wife you are a slut, i’m playing no card, if it were not for the ground troops protecting you well used arse this country would be as fucked as you and your political friends.

        • 384
          caesars wife says:

          so what do you come onto a political blogg for then and tell people they are crap and liberal ?? i mean surely your best efforts would be to make a politcal statement about the armed forces situation , not attack what i write .

          that is why you are a troll

        • 386
          arthur says:

          caesars wife this was about squaddies and pen pushing generals but you could not resist putting your one sided political beliefs even though it matters to people who are putting their lives on the line for everybody to support them.

        • 387
          caesars wife says:

          i would say calling danat a twat is pretty one sided

        • 388
          arthur says:

          it is all about moral, if he felt strongly he should have resigned, the last thing the troops want to hear is that they are not capable to do the job they have been sent to do. history dictates that they improvise thats what they do best.

        • 390

          This is exactly what I mean about this blog being so much dreg.

        • 391
          arthur says:

          charles you need to put a fucking lid on it too. the lads are giving their lives for everybody.

        • 392
          caesars wife says:

          you can shoot harwidge arthur hes selling us all down the shitter ! even the liberal gay civvies

          i can see your point that Military top brass are often not the front line stuff and perhaps some do become pen pushers , after tonights newsnight special it has become apparant that the politicians have not done there side of the job , in that they havent got a working Afghan police and army forces. Let alone where the rest of the UN group of soldiers is .

          As for have army been betrayed by politicians ?? In Afghanistans case i think they have , in the sense that they havent got an end game .
          Do i think our lads need all our support then yes , tailban and Al qui aida dont seem to want to stop firing on us , so we have to support our lads , right now they are fighting , not pausing between blogg posts like us lot on here .

        • 393
          A Marketing Industry Cunt says:

          Lots of negativity tonight.

        • 396
          arthur says:

          there used to be a consensus among political parties when it came to conflict, now all these no marks in parliament are nothing but shysters who should be taken out and shot, they abuse the people of this country with a thousand cuts but whey betide anyone of us who infringes on the rights of others.

    • 446
      Anonymous says:

      piss off back to the Young Offenders Institution Arthur, it must be way past curfew time by now. You dont know what you’re talking about.

  71. 371
    What is the Tory line on Afghanistan ? says:

    BY all means hammer Brown’s pathetic failure and propaganda but lets not pretend call me Dave the jellyfish has any answers.

    • 406
      Portuguese Man o' War says:

      I resent that!

    • 455
      Afghanistan, What Exactly Are We Doing There And What Is The Exit Strategy Mr Brown? says:

      Labour sent our troops into Afghanistan. So ask them what the exit strategy is

  72. 373
    Adolf says:

    60 years later and you dadft hoons still aint come round to seeing any sense, my way was the best way stick all the ragheads in camps.

    • 401
      A Pensioner says:

      Adolf, mate, I’m starting to see your point of view – not just the ragheads though.

    • 408
      Normal person says:

      I would not be surprised if ridiculous comments like this from ‘Adolf’ are being planted by anti-Guido elements and Labour stooges.

      I can see this scenario: “Labour is introducing powers to close down blogs,” says Harriet Harman. “See the type of racist comments being made.”

      • 463
        SPANK MY ARSE AND CALL ME THICKIE says:

        There are still a lot of germans out there that would do a dam site worse than that !

  73. 382
    caesars wife says:

    i think Labour are at full stretch and losing , Ed millibands just made an excellent case for enabling the folks of Doncaster to see he back tracks on his words .

    they are really trying to take the blogg vote though , but losing bit by bit

  74. 385
    Dr Feelgood says:

    +++ NEWSFLASH +++

    Excusive picture of Hardwidge and Master Baiter. Ed Balls holding the leash?

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/07/13/article-1199422-05B15DDD000005DC-277_634×439.jpg

  75. 400
    Crocodile Dundee says:

    why do english soccer supporters sing with high screechy voices like ladies?

    • 404

      WTF? More like bellowing really but I challenge you to ask the same question in my local, a favourite with Millwall supporters due to it’s location and reasonable prices if you are that interested.

      • 405
        Crocodile Dundee says:

        well mate some of ‘em try to fake it but an aussie is an aussie and a pom is a pom so they can never hide it, they’re better than maria callas mate!

        • 413
          Engineer says:

          You’ve overdone the xxxx. There is no way on God’s earth that you could call the noises that English soccer fans make ’singing’.

          If you want some of that, try Welsh rugby fans.

        • 416
          jgm2 says:

          Ahhhh. The ‘Australian Defence’. Getting your retaliation in first.

          Picture the scene. A bedsit in Earl’s Court. Bruce is phoning his mate Bruce in Melbourne….

          [Whiny nasal Australian accent on]

          Nyaaaaahh. Yeah, hiya mate. Yeah, been here a few weeks now in Mud Island mate. Nyaaaah. Fucking hate it mate. Place is full of wankers. Fucking beer is warm, it rains all the time, the beer is warm. The Shielas are all fat and pasty and don’t put out. And the beer is warm. And it rains all the fucking time mate.

          But I’ll tell you what I really fucking hate Bruce. The place is full of fucking whingeing POMS.

          [Whiny Aussie accent off]

          Whingeing POMS? Oh yeah?

        • 425
          An Aussie says:

          jgm2: all you say about the country, the sheilas and the beer is true. But see who’s whining after the Lord’s test, mate.

        • 431
          Engineer says:

          No culture whatever. Aussies seem terrified of beer that actually tastes of something. Think it was Chronic who said the other day that Aussie beer was like making love in a canoe – fucking close to water.

          And we won’t mention Ricky Ponting’s little outburst about gamesmanship. This from the nation that invented sledging….

        • 432
          jgm2 says:

          Who said irony was lost on the Americans. It looks like it’s lost on the Aussies too.

        • 436
          Steve Expat says:

          Well it’ sure as fuck not the Poms whinging after the Cardiff test that’s for sure.

          Did you hear that ponce Ponting go on about why the 12th man came on the field. This from the team that bowled underarm so they didn’t lose a match, now that’s gamesmanship for you. One needs 20 wickets to win a test match, the whinging Aussies only got 19. Well done Monty, Anderson and Collingwood!!

    • 464
      SPANK MY ARSE AND CALL ME THICKIE says:

      ALL FAGGOTS !

  76. 407
    Hardwidge's Hemorroid says:

    What the fuck is going on? It seems that the more you employ the worse the service gets – Labour madness!!! Where are you Charlie? defend this if you dare!!!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1199388/Taxpayers-pay-500m-year-29-000-politicians.html

    • 411
      Engineer says:

      It gets worse. Not only are there vastly more paid politicians today than ten years ago, but their parties expect them to donate a proportion of their taxpayer-funded salary and expenses to party funds – taxpayer funding of political parties through the back door. If you can, listen again to the Radio 4 programme broadcast yesterday at 11am called ‘The Political Club’.

      All I can say is – The BASTARDS….

      • 426
        politically un-correct social worker(retired) says:

        I heard this too: it’s a process they call ‘tithing’. Its done by Labour and LibDems but not Tories. A percentage of the salaries of local councillors and MPs has to be given to support their party funds. There is no way of opting out. Simon Hughes MP defended the practice as just and fair. A Labour spokesman said that if they didn’t have the tithes as a source of income, they would not be able to run a campaign at the next election because LP funds are so low. I agree your point Engineer, its a case of taxpayers funding the parties by the back door.
        (actually, for the BBC, this was a ‘balanced’ programme)

  77. 410
    nell says:

    Our eight fallen lads will be coming home, all together, through Wootton Bassett today.

    I wonder if, for once, brown and ainsworth will have the guts and the decency to be there to pay proper respects.

    Morning folks.

    • 412
      Engineer says:

      Morning, Nell.

      No, as usual, the good people of Wootton Bassett will show their respect without representation from the Government. I even refuse to call it Her Majesty’s Government now – she must be so ashamed of it.

      • 414
        nell says:

        Gen.Sir David Richards who is taking over as Head of the Army next month and who has served on the frontline in Afghanistan is demanding, as has Dannatt, 2000 reinforcements for Afghanstan plus 3000 fighting soldiers to bring the army up to full strength.

        How many more Army professionals need to say it before gordon listens? But then gordon, in his supreme arrogance, never listens.

        • 417
          jgm2 says:

          Brown has probably read Churchill’s autobiography and now feels qualified to run a war.

          Too bad he’s clearly never read anything on economics. Not that he’d pay any fucking attention.

          The imbecile.

      • 437
        Steve Expat says:

        I’d love to see a Minister or two there in Wooton Bassett. I wonder what the gracious public, there to pay their final respects to eight brave men, might have to say to them…?

      • 443
        Fubar_Saunders says:

        Dannatt was at the Repatriation ceremony last night at Bastion.

        The only once in a generation soldier who is a true leader. Christ, the army is going to miss him when he retires next month.

        And the folk of Wooton Bassett… an amazing, dignified example to us all. What happens in WB should happen everywhere the fallen return to.

        Pity Lyneham is going to shut within 2 years or so. Hows that for a stab in the back? You, as a local community build a lifelong relationship with the unit, you do the nation proud by showing the due respect to the fallen…. and some one eyed Scottish bastard comes along, closes down the base and f**ks the whole thing up.

        Cheers Gordon. Saved the world again, eh? Tosser.

    • 419
      A Pensioner says:

      Nell: I have to disagree for once. Those lads died bravely, and don’t deserve to have scum present at their homecoming. Best leave it to the families, their comrades in arms, and the GOOD people of England.

    • 421
      Trough Mixture says:

      Good morning to you Nell. I’d tend to agree with A Pensioner – the time for government attendance has come and gone, let them skulk in their shame.

      One of those coming home today is one of my own. I have some business which I must conclude this morning. If I do so early enough, I will drive across and hope to get round Oxford before the lunchtime traffic unpleasantness. If not, there will be others present to say a final ‘Fear Naught’.

    • 439
      ArmyMum says:

      Few of the politicos are interested in respecting the patriotic men and women who proudly wear the uniform of Her Majesty’s Armed Forces. The house was quite empty for ‘iltertash Ainsworth’s questions yesterday, says it all really, few challenge this utter wanker as he drones on http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=4509&wfs=true .

  78. 424
    It's all Balls says:

    Would the irony be lost on Brown if he chose to attend and arrived by helicopter?

    • 429
      General Strapon says:

      aye, i’ve heard he’s fond of big choppers bringing up the rear.

  79. 430
    kick one they all limp says:

    I wonder if this gift shop sells Efergys of Mcmental that comes complete with a box of pins ? Best seller me thinks ! Or even action man figures of Brown and Blair in combat uniforms sat in an armoured vehicle that falls to bits everytime you move it ?(due to shortage of stock this item is limited to one vehicle per customer).

  80. 434
    kick one they all limp says:

    GUIDO that quote of the day has got to be worth a blog of it’s own “please”

  81. 438
    genghiz the kahn says:

    How much are the pictures of Gordon Brown printed onto soft absorbent perforated paper rolls selling for?

  82. 452
    honeyelize says:

    hi, I’m from Vietnam. Nice to visit your blog




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