Crowd Sourcing Opinion v Commentariat Opinion
Until now we have had no way of knowing what the public really think of the party leaders performance. Instead, the members of the commentariat simply form their insider consensus, unsupported by anything other than their own shared metropolitan prejudices.
For example, the current consensus among the pundits is that it’s not a good idea for Cameron to get angry with Brown. “Too much like Flashman” think the hacks. But lots of voters are angry as hell at the PM and want to see him get a great big slap in the face (hence the popularity in Dan Hannan’s viral video in which he gave the PM the full hairdryer treatment).
Are the pundits right? What do swing voters actually think? At the moment that knowledge isn’t available to anyone unless they have pots of cash to spend. In the U.S. Frank Luntz charges corporate clients a small fortune to run dial groups (as seen on Newsnight) which capture exactly how voters feel about what politicians are saying. If you have the money, the effect of every word and weird facial expression can be measured precisely.
Now that technology is about to be democratised… it is time to cut out Sir Michael White and find out what voters actually think. Let the crowd-sourced experiment begin – click here or on the button above and you will be able to record your responses blow-by-blow to today’s PMQs clash. We’ll have the results back later…
Couldn’t finish the test as that woman’s harridansque (new word) drives me to suicidal thoughts.
Think of it as a personal sacrifice.
Guido, an excellent development and hope it’s the final nail in the commentariat coffin.
And up the Twitterati!
By “NEW” do we mean the same thing The Daily Politics has been doing with instant viewer feedback on and off for ages ?
Why do they call me Harridan Harpoison ?
yes, a very good point indeed Guido.
the ‘flashman’ nonsense is an excellent case in point.
the concensus that dave will appear flashman like if he attacks brown too vigorously is flawed by the fact that most people do not know who flashman is.
that is because they are too busy busting their fucking balls earning a living to pay the countries debts to read middle class fiction.
the cultural connection is not there.
and then there is the further distinction of the young flashman and the old one.
as you may have guessed I am a huge fan of flashman. what a splendid fellow.
but my point remains the same: the commentariat are not connecting.
we at order-order and other people at other blogs are.
the revolution may well be televised but it will begin on the blogosphere.
and it will be kicked off by c’unts like me innit!
COZ I AM TOP BOY AND DON’T YOU FORGET IT TORY SCUM!
DAVE PAY YOUR OWN MORTGAGE YOU FUCKING SCROUNGING MILLIONAIRE!
YOU CHEAPSKATE C’UNT YOU GOT THIRTY MILLION YOU SLAG WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU CLAIMING HOUSING BENEFIT BITCH! YOU’RE SCUM DAVE!
OSBORNE, GO EASY ON THE CRACK EH?
MOTHERFUCKERS!
a pair of wankers, end of story.
ooooh! hark at her!
I’m sorry, but,you are a complete and utter puss wit!
I’m sorry, but,you are a complete and utter
TORY SCUM TROLL TROLLING AROUND IN THE SHIT SMOKING CRACK AND TAKING ACID WITH DODGY DAVE AND GIDEON SNORTALOT!
fuck off troll. go rim your boyfriends dave and gideon you retard.
or alternatively you could hang around and have your fucking skull caved in by me.
let’s go for option 2 shall we?
At least you have admitted you are middle class, like the rest of us smug bastards. Like the Gil Scott-Heron reference, as well, you cultured shitbag!
Thick. And a thief.
Can I be your fag hag?
NAH, I’M A WORKING CLASS HERO INNIT.
BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW AS WELL
OH FUCK! SHOULD HAVE KEPT THE PEASANTS DOWN MOTHERFUCKER!
THAT IS WHY I CAN BASH YOUR BRAINS OUT COZ I AM MUCH, MUCH CLEVERER THAN WOT YOU ARE BUY I AM STILL NORMAL UMAN BEIN’
THAT IS WHY I AM TOP BOY AND YOU ARE TORY SCUM
SUCK MY COCK TORY TROLLS
AND LICK MY BALLS.
Errrrrr how does penny dreadful or period farce grab you. I have read a couple of Flashman classics and they may be a lot of things but middle class fiction is’nt one of them.
On the newspaper credibilty scale I would give them a “Daily Star” rating.
You are a first class knob, not middle class and certainly not working class.
If you are not a labourlist wannabe part of the great unwashed, unloved, left wing “Gordon’s my hero” brigade I’m a dutchman.
p.s. Just read your reply to Darcy – did not realise you were a closet homo -what a sad sod you really are.
it’s funny because I just grab hold of the trolls and start smashing their brains out. that has gotta hurt and so they skuttle away like mice.
and then they stop using the original name they posted under and post under a different one like darcy changed into fickle finger.
spineless c’unts the tory trolls, complete cowards.
you may or may not like my stuff but I use the same name.
I stand by what I say.
splitting hairs old boy.
who is more likely to have flashman novels in the house, middle class people or working class people?
defo middle class ones.
you’re talking bollocks.
fuck off troll.
thankyou.
and rob c, don’t be jealous. I am sure darcy will rim your arsehole if you ask him nicely.
you sound very interested in the whole gay thing rob.
maybe you are gay.
nothing wrong with that, don’t be ashamed rob.
your mum always had her suspicions.
mum’s alway right rob.
I think you fancy a bit of analisation.
now fuck off.
Of course he is middle class, posing as an anarchist like I used to when I was a student. He couldn’t cave in a guinea pig’s skull. But he’s right more of the time than a lot of the tribal tories on here care to admit, and he’s certainly not Labourlist – sometimes I think he’s Guido’s alter ego.
Oh and Tat I thought you had decided you didn’t mind gays, so what’s all this suck my cock stuff. Make your mind up.
“NAH, I’M A WORKING CLASS HERO INNIT.
BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW AS WELL
OH FUCK! SHOULD HAVE KEPT THE PEASANTS DOWN MOTHERFUCKER!
THAT IS WHY I CAN BASH YOUR BRAINS OUT COZ I AM MUCH, MUCH CLEVERER THAN WOT YOU ARE BUY I AM STILL NORMAL UMAN BEIN’
THAT IS WHY I AM TOP BOY AND YOU ARE TORY SCUM
SUCK MY COCK TORY TROLLS
AND LICK MY BALLS.”
Is that a yes or a no?
I’ve had that thought too, Augeas – though it’s hard to be consistent/not give the game away. Unless it’s dissociative personality disorder, of course.
Sorry tat – I don’t wear a red hat!
no knickers,
genius transcends class.
DUH!
augeas,
duly noted sir.
but all is fair in love and war and this scum labour party must be removed from office as soon as is possible by whatever means necessary.
but still, duly noted.
Just my sort of gal
Guido,
Thanks, but no thanks; it’s an undemocratic farce as media monitors – ‘trolls’ – affiliated to Nulabor will partake heavily and, undoubtedly, outnumber genuine public commentators such as myself.
I do not favour the abolition of democracy or democratic processes in Parliament.
The only democratic way of voting is NOT via government monitored/influenced IT, but rather attending the ballot box with proof of vote entitlement.
Treacherous, manipulative/oppressive Nulabor loathes democracy and all it’s principles – free thinking, free speech and free choice.
capital letters are the last refuge of a scoundrel.
*slaps TAT around the face with a calf skin glove*
*puts hand ready on sabre *
I managed to get to the end, but her whateveryousaid meant that there was no other real option but to leave the arrow full over to Hague all the way through
Fraid I spent the entire video looking for a third axis enabling me to score both 0.
No worries – the ‘trolls’ will be busy online ensuring a Labour biased outcome !
An interesting idea. hobbled only by the fact that the visitors to this site are self-selected and therefore unrepresentative.
it is time to cut out Sir Michael White
No. It is time to cut Sir Michael White.
Anyway, WTF does Mickey Whitey know of public opinion?
No, it’s time to hang Michael White from a lamp post in Parliament Square!
Just polish his head with one of those electric car-polishing things.
It’ll come up a treat. Help reduce global warming by sending solar radiation back whence it came.
are you on about white or the fetus?
Both, really.
BTW there’s an O in foetus, if you’re English, and if you’re a colonial like Master Baiter you can just fuck right orf.
Ah, one of Dick Sniffins mates. Presumably you believe in bombing planes bringing Americans into the country.
Or is it time to out Sir Michael White? (As a twerp).
No, it’s definitely time to cut him.
Poor old George Osborne is going to be on the telly tonight, what a shame for the Conservitudes that they have such a weak politician in such a crucial role in the midst of the most frightening and global economic and financial collapse.
On the other hand, it’s great for Labour.
By the way in PMQs Hague did not do well, all the way through, but you know that.
Osborne relies too much on Hammond to do anything involving economics or numbers generally and too much on Dave to speak for him. He is there because he led Dave’s leadership campaign and is an OE.
Agree, Hammond would play a lot better than Osborne. Just like the dourness of Brown played well against the puppiness of Blair.
–barb deleted–
He isn’t an OE – he attended St. Paul’s – see Who’s Who 2008 p.1755
Gideon is a prat but not an Old Etonian prat.
He went to St Paul’s School.
Is it right that Georgie is related to Piers Dervish-Fletcher and is a placeman for the return of Alan B’Stard?
Shirley Piers is just Ed Balls?
He sure looks and acts just like him anyway.
I did the test but can’t stand the harperson so I just did what Anonymous did at 149#.
When will we get to see the results?
Osborne is not an OE, as it happens. Get your facts straight, Sir Billy.
MB
I think most people will give Harriet credit for fighting her corner; it must have been a major relief to the Labour backbenchers to have someone vaguely competent at the dispatch box. Makes you wonder why they keep putting Brown at the fore, a man who by his own admission is not good at debating. Rather a sine qua non for a PM I would have thought.
Presumably because he’s capable politically of knocking seven bells of hell out of anyone that tries to take his place.
No because he’s crap
Providing his one failing eye could focus on anything other than the titanic mess he has made of the country long enough to “politically knock 7 bells out of anyone”.
Brown is a coward, and a bully – who needs vicious little attack dogs like McBride to do his dirty work.
Everyone knows that.
Including you.
God save the Queen (not Gordon, Her Majesty)
Can’t argue with someone who’s eyes see an alternate reality
You agree that he is a bully then?
Get a life you little squirt, the ‘clunking fist’ has proved himself a cotton wool bud. The spineless nature of most of the parliamentary Labour Party is no glorious reflection on McCrap.
In fact he has had a few good shots at Cameron.
When he connects Cameron loses his bearings completely.
Remember Cameron finally admitting there is a recession throughout Europe.
Left Cameron with his head wobbling like the toy dog in an insurance ad.
Cameron can try to dish it out but he can’t take it poor little petal.
Are we talking about the same fella, Mr U Turn Brown?
Wait til all the memoirs and diaries appear. They will give some insight into how, at present inexplicably, he has kept his place.
” Left Cameron with his head wobbling like the toy dog in an insurance ad.”
Oh nooooo!
She’s not “vaguely competent”! She’s a hectoring, patronising school mistress, who is equally incapable of answering a question as GB. I wish they’d either make them answer a bloody question ONCE or cancel the sodding thing altogether – its utterly pointless as is !
Yes, that’s why they got rid of her, Thatcher that is.
A bit off message today aren’t we MB ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1562097/Gordon-Brown-admires-Margaret-Thatcher.html
Why don’t you go on telly – on Stars in the Eyes, pretending to be someone who knows what they’re talking about. The rest of us will pretend that we take any notice of you.
If that is the depths of your insight, just take extra care, whatever you do.
Why, what are you going to do?
Is that a threat to No.11? Are you going to send Blinky Balls and Fat Nick to come and get him?
Master B has clearly taken a summer job with the H&S Exec running round with a clipboard and bright yellow vest
Advise you that a person, such as you, with so little imagination will find life a great challenge.
There, did that hurt?
Life is indeed a challenge under this crap Labour government
We seem to suffering from premature ejaculations here. It’s touch and go.
Wash and go
I was told in Waitrose that they don’t give out boxes for carrying wine anymore due to H&S! I asked when was the last time anyone was killed by a cardboard wine box and the assistant backtracked a bit and said it was for their recycling quota instead — so I said what did she think I was going to fucking do with it when I got it home? Recycle the bloody thing of course.
They’re all on a power trip.
I think he’d be better off on Dr Who instead – as a Dalek
Exterminate!
No – MB willl obey everything your masters tell him with out question. His masters will be exterminated in 2010
He already did, under the name of Ann and singing Celine Dion. eh eh ehhhhhh
It’s true Labour have made mistakes in the past but they’re still far more competent than the Tories. George Osborne must be the least likeable Tory ever.
Thanks
Apart from Shaun Woodward and Quentin Davies
And Mr Squeaker
I guess that’s why Osborne gets booed everywhere he goes. Oh, wait – that’s Gordon Brown!
Did Soft Wedge just say that Labour have made mistakes in the past????? Did he really??
This must be the end for Liebore.
It’s true Labour have made mistakes in the past
And continue to do so.
…every bloody day. Election now please so we can kick the lot of them out for good!
The only mistake they made was to think they could run a country.
Thank God for the country that we have a Trotskyite chancellor managing the economic crisis. You couldn’t make it up.
We have a Maoist running the EU.
Well pat him dry.
What do you use, Kleenex?
Bronco plain, I believe. Then sticks it in a scrapbook with Gordon’s face on the front cover.
Izal, by choice. Otherwise Bronco.
Medicated, all the same
What no advice? No guidance? Nothing your superior knowledge and experience, or your inherent comic talent cannot regale us with? Upon this, the area of your expertise! Won’t you condescend to give us the crumbs from your table?
The shame of it all.
Mastur Bator
“Poor old George Osborne is going to be on the telly tonight, what a shame for the Conservitudes that they have such a weak politician in such a crucial role in the midst of the most frightening and global economic and financial collapse.”
I love it when rank nutters like Mastur Wanker rail against Osborne’s ‘weakness’ when it is clear that he is markedly more competent than both the current and previous Chancellors. Even the bovine public have started to recognise this.
Brings to mind the old paraphrased city saying ‘might be a c u n t but runs rings around little pricks like you’!
You can’t argue with someone who’s eyes see an alternate reality.
That’s a good definition of mental illness.
Exactly. Why do people bother? Though unfortunately the country has to put up with these bozos for another 11 months. But with luck that might be the last we see of their arses forever.
Until then, the best thing to do is stand well back and lob lumps of coal at them.
Your philosophical insights do not exist.
You remind me of young Kierkegaard’s treatise on arguing philosophy in books
According to Jean Paul Sartre, nobody exists you ignorant cυnt.
Nothing exists.
nothing exists
Popper’s hypothetico-deductivism is an excellent approach. It avoids the inductivist pitfalls that Eisenhardt espouses and the theory generation is considered more robust. Pity “karl popper” tries to pretend that nothing exists – clearly a response to Kierkegaard’s inability to argue that it is impossible to discuss philosophy in a book, by publishing it in a book. What a wanker is Kierkegaard!
I can’t agree. Osborne’s greatest talent is to have Brown and Darling pinch his worst ideas. Given that the Tories will take over an economy ruined by 14 years of utter economic incompetence, reckless waste and insouciant stupidity we need somebody in that position with a bit more numeracy and a lot more gumption.
Whatever you’re smoking, you need to give some to me. It must be some awfully potent stuff if you can look at the current environment – including your party’s poll ratings in the low twenties – and talk about Labour doing well.
No doubt you’ve got Teh Eevul Toerys right where you want them. No doubt that world-renowned political genius Gordon Broon is just waiting for the right time to spring his trap. No doubt Labour’s landslide at the next election will wipe out not only the Conservatives but also the Lib Dems leaving a parliament with upwards of 550 Labour members and Broon voted Emperor-and-Dictator-for-Life by a grateful nation.
No doubt the wrecked economy, the sleaze-riddled government, the cabinet of incompetents are all a delusion. No doubt the contempt that Broon is held in by his own party – by his own ministers! – is an invention of the press, the merest fantasy or perhaps a cunning plan by Labour. Perhaps the only reason nine out of ten British voters hate Broon is because it’s part of his masterplan to secure eternal victory for Labour; perhaps in a year’s time, we’ll all be sitting around amazed, wondering how we fell for it, how Broon hoodwinked us so and how he pulled off the greatest electoral victory in this nation’s history.
Like I said, you’ve smoking some potent narcotics and I think it’s high time you shared it with the rest of us.
Rhetoric isn’t your strong point, is it?
What a fucking awesome comeback! Cicero and Demosthenes have fuck-all on you. No doubt your next great retorts will be “I know I am but what are you?” or “Yeah? Well, your mum!”.
Anonymous:
I could not have put it better myself. Great stuff – keep it up.
Dear Master Baiter
George ‘the wallpaper man’ Osborne is a loser.
I wonder if he will propose saving Britain by every family buying wall paper from Osborne and Little.
Does anyone know if Oswank carries wallpaper catalogues about with him?
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Making false accusations of female harassment – isn’t that the hallmark of a “loser”?
Dear 18th Quango
False actions, you say? Sounds serious; I never do myself because I always have third party evidence filed away.
Court of Law standard is what I use.
Are you Dr. Brendan Wallace? If so you are not a woman.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
More like a jealous, twisted, vindictive, cowardly, poisonous, backstabbing bearer of false witness who thinks old men having heart attacks is funny. Either that of a paranoid schizophrenic who is best eliminated from public life and ignored. Ask him for his ‘third party proof’! What a horrible little specimen you are, George…
No cracks about covering up the cracks, please.
You’re arse crack is showing.
Poor chap’s ‘trade’. Not quite our sort, eh, Georgie old bean? Bit of a counter-jumper like that oik Gove? I prefer honest working-class chaps like postie Alan Johnson. They remind me of my estate workers.
Are those the ones without boots?
Dear Sir William
You say you prefer estate workers?
Does your wife know?
Poor old cow!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Betty Moignard will do you in the battyhole with a strap-on if you’re not careful, Lairdy-Boy. Then, after she’s got you warmed-up, Old Man Jasper will want a turn – and he doesn’t use lube.
Dear Anon
“Betty Moignard will do you in the battyhole with a strap-on if you’re not careful, Lairdy-Boy. Then, after she’s got you warmed-up, Old Man Jasper will want a turn – and he doesn’t use lube”.
What a terrible defamation of an ugly old woman.
I am shocked.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Their wallpaper is brilliant . Have used it frequently. Don’t make judgments about something you know nothing about. Their wallpaper has got nothing to do with politics.
The above to G Laird at no 83.
Dear Barefootcontessa
“Their wallpaper is brilliant”.
You getting a bung from Osborne?
It looks like retro 1970’s shite to me.
Might come in handy if you were fitting out a brothel!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
So’s their fabrics. And my sister, who is an interior designer, says their collections are so successful at the moment (even in a recession) that their producers can’t keep up with the demand.
You’re wrong again GL, many of their papers are based on 18th – 19th century designs. I can tell from your posts that you are a philistine and totally ignorant about the history of wall paper which was once a very important industry in this country. Write about things that you know something about, otherwise you end up slurring the name of that great institution The University of Glasgow!
Entertaining exchange. Never realised there were so many deluded Tories around. Whatever your political views it is self evident that Little Georgie Osborne is possibly the most rank incompetent in a senior role since Farmer Jim tried to do hard sums. Of course Georgie has an excuse – the same one as Charles Clarke. Its an amazing fact but George makes me long for the days of Oliver Letwin as Shadow Chancellor.
The only thing self evident to me is your puerile remarks dickhead.
Osbourne has not been chancellor for the best part of the last twelve years Gordon Brown has and the moron has singlehandedly turned the economy into a basket case the gruesome and extremely painful effects of which will only become apparent to all of us after the next election.
How anyone with a scintilla of grey matter can call another person
a rank incompetent before he has started the job is a good indication of just how fucxing stupid you are. “Anonymous Labour shite” would be a far better pseudonym.
you sound like a right wanker.
that must be because you are one.
fuck off back to conservativefoam rob.
you fucking titbox.
If the Tories want to be taken seriously they would do well to make better use of David Davis’ talents.
You are such a puss wit, if you had a brain made of chocolate it would not really fill a smarty. Why not go away and get an education.
Michael Jackson, my arse
And mine
I could say the same for Labour but the choice of weakest candidate would be a large one.
As for PMQs neither did Gordon’s substitute exactly shine. Even when compared to his usual bumbling efforts.
That scale is a bit confusing. Surely the numbers on the left should not have a minus sign.
I agree! I thought I was confused because of my age. Thanks.
It was too boring the first time round. I couldn’t possibly watch it again.
Seconded
Thirded. Give us a rerun of a decent one and I’m there.
Home O’Gnome
Never mind about that, Mr. Fawkes. I believe the most pressing thing the government currently needs to address is the scandalous under-representation of homosexual gnomes in Parliament. As a gay gnome and long-time Labour voter, I feel betrayed by the way in which our plight has been totally ignored. They keep banging on about “equality, equality, equality” but issues within the gay gnome community continue to remain unaddressed. It’s a national scandal. I have written to Lord Mandleson urging him to take action, but all I got in reply was a signed photo of him in a black cloak, which although rather fetching, is not very helpful. The homosexual gnome community is in crisis. Blogs like this are the only resource through which I feel we can muster the support we need to redress this unacceptable wrong.
Here here, don’t forget us tuppence lickers!
Gay gnomes? I wouldn’t stoop so low.
Get on your bike and go fishing.
Guido,
I’m glad to see that you’ve removed Hardwidge’s post @1. I was starting to look back to the good old days when some prat posted “First”. I hope you’ve kicked him off permanently, this time.
He was doing your blog harm by pissing off other commenters.
Guido,
Please ban everyone and stop posting anything.
Thanks
No just the professional trolls. That’s about two (using several aliases each). Then you can fuck off back to Laborslost and join the mutual wankfest.
Yeah, the Labour party is spending loads of taxpayers’ money paying people to post anti-Tory messages on here. Jeez, are you wearing your tinfoil hat today? Time for your medication I think.
Charley boy,
You mean to say you two idiots are doing this for free? You are even more pathetic than we all thought!
If you’re not getting paid, you must criminally insane.
If you are not being paid, Charley/Jonty/Master Baiter, whoever you are, are you on the dole or are you just abusing your employer? Some of us here are old retired gits and have earned the right to waste our time posting rubbish on here. What about you?
That’s proof (if more proof were needed) of what these trolls are trying to do. They wreck the threads and leave no room for genuinely witty comment. I know troll bashing can be fun, but sometimes I wonder if it would not be better to just ignore them. If they were ignored by other commenters, they would eventually get bored and disappear back into their cesspit.
Brown is a Hoon repeated endlessly, is that your idea of wit?
No, but Brown is a cυnt is.
The comment on Labourlost about Bollox: “…couldn’t manage a fart in a baked bean eating contest” was witty, and true.
Adrain
He/they can’t, it’s their job. And they are utterly unemployable, so they are stuck with it.
Free Speech?
I’m not saying bar them – just ignore them.
(Re my post above – I must learn how to spell my name.)
Sorry Adrian, didn’t see it was you, just thought, – drain hole!
Hi Contessa,
The way I spelled my name, I think you were right with “Drain Hole”. (Hope the espadrilles are comfy!) ;-]
And how! It’s just my finances that are going down adrain.
Trolls only strike when someone’s posted something that is close to the bone. They then try to distract attention from this. Look a few posts up and you’ll find the gold.
Done it but not sure about the value. I did learn one thing, the one that’s talking is the one winning. No wonder you can never get the bastards to shut up.
My word… I had a post removed that was 75% relevant. Could I say it again?
I don’t like the bit where “If you have the money, the effect of every word and weird facial expression can be measured precisely”.
That is about trying to create an identikit politician that presses all the right emotional buttons, never mind policy, never mind ability to get things working.
I’m glad we’ve still got the wierdos and oddbods in politics that haven’t been ironed into submission or replaced with eager clones.
Like bubble and squeak it is better reheated.
yeah well, I know what I did wrong, but I’m doing it again.
Thanks for the support eager clone.
Hi Jonty, just thought I’d let you know that Chuckle Vision is on.
It must get to that Harperson “thing” that the Conservatives did more for the promotion of women in politics than Labour have.
How many years ago was it the the Tories elected Margaret to the top job?
Is it over three decades ago now?
And yet the 2009 Labour Party inner circle looks like a male dominated cabal with a few bits of boyish fluff like Balls’ missus – & Harperson, but “Har-thing” is virtually sexless.
For all the talk of equality, Labour is still a male dominated enterprise.
Was Thatcher a woman?
Ask her gynaecologist
Christ. It actually occurs to me that you cannot actually remember the time when she was prime minister. There was a lot of singing and drinking in Manchester university students union that night.
Sexism from the homo erotic gang bangers at the New Labour fan club?
What are you trying to ask?
Use a verb.
Yes and at the same time more of a man than Brown will ever be.
I Don’t think Labour are stupid enough to elect Harm-men as leader, anyway. They still have a sizeable core vote in the north-east – the only area of the country where they still have a lot of voters – with whom that would not go down at all well.
Oh – like the Northern Wreck cabal?
And Leicester! Don’t forget, the ZaNu labour vote increased fromn 28% to 37% in the Euro elections.
Next for such an upswing? Possibly Blackburn? Or Bradford? Dewsbury?
show me the Islamo-Fascist, – I’ll show you the vote!
Surely you mean Harm-Person?
For she harms everyone, as an equal-op arsehole.
My prediction, for what it’s worth, is that she ‘ll be going to the mps heaven in the sky,…… the Lords.
A lot of dyed in the wool liebour types in the North East have seen through the smoke and mirrors. There is still work to do to convince the rest of them to jump ship ( not that there are any built here anymore ) but we are getting there.
The time is rapidly approaching when a liebour safe seat anywhere in the country is a thing of the past and that day can’t come soon enough!
Here’s Thatcher meeting a failed politician from Kirkcaldy.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6993269.stm
Which one do you thinks has more balls?
Is Gordon?
Is Brown human?
A rhetorical question, surely.
Obviously he’s a bug.
For a good Labour boy, you sure are a misogynistic piece of shit.
Is Mandie tbibg a man!?
Why do you ask pointless questions?
To Fred. I agree that they are males in the Labour party but they are not real men who understand concepts of decency, patriotism,honour and nobility.They are what are known as NEW MAN NONCES or feminised girly men who pander to feminazis and run away from trouble or responsibilty.Real men like your good self would never be found in New labour.
Send him in with a bullwhip and a knife.
I AM THE REASONNNNNNNNNNN YOUR FUTURE SUFFERS I AM THE HATRED YOU WON’T EMBRACE
IIIIIIIIIII STICK MY FINGERS INTO MY EYESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
push my fingers into my eyes
It’s the only thing that slowly stops the ache
But it’s made of all the things I have to take
Jesus it never ends, it works it’s way inside
If the pain goes on
I have screamed until my veins collapsed
I’ve waited as my times elapsed
Now all I do is live with so much fate
I wished for this, I bitched at that
I’ve left behind this little fact
You cannot kill what you did not create
I’ve gotta say what I’ve gotta say
And then I swear I’ll go away
But I can’t promise you’ll enjoy the noise
I guess I’ll save the best for last
My future seems like one big past
You’re left with me ’cause you left me no choice
I push my fingers into my eyes
It’s the only thing that slowly stops the ache
If the pain goes on, I’m not gonna make it
Put me back together or separate the skin from bone
Leave me all the pieces
Then you can leave me alone
Tell me the reality is better than the dream
But I’ve found out the hard way
Nothing is what it seems
I push my fingers into my eyes
It’s the only thing that slowly stops the ache
But it’s made of all the things I have to take
Jesus it never ends, it works it’s way inside
If the pain goes on, I’m not gonna make it
All I’ve got, all I’ve got is insane
All I’ve got, all I’ve got is insane
All I’ve got, all I’ve got is insane
All I’ve got, all I’ve got is insane
All I’ve got, all I’ve got is insane
All I’ve got, all I’ve got is insane
I push my fingers into my eyes
It’s the only thing that slowly stops the ache
But it’s made of all the things I have to take
Jesus it never ends, it works it’s way inside
If the pain goes on, I’m not gonna make it
All I’ve got, all I’ve got is insane
All I’ve got, all I’ve got is insane
All I’ve got, all I’ve got is insane
All I’ve got, all I’ve got is insane
Couldn’t have put it better myself.
And, what are their qualifications?
Don’t say that. They let us wimmin stand in the windowswhenever we want.
I like big tits.
Can’t get a bigger pair of tits than Broon and Darling.
with all due respect they would get lost in one cup of widdi’s bra.
“How many years ago was it the the Tories elected Margaret to the top job?”
1975. Turned out to be little better than the Vile Heath over time, though.
24 hour news and the rise of the blogosphere allow corrupt politicians’ lies to be exposed immediately, which is a great thing. However, it means politicians are forced to spend far more time and money on appearances which distracts them from doing their job. We need balance for things to really improve.
Hattie’s appearance and the world’s nerves would be immediately improved were her gob stitched up like that of a shrunken head.
This country has no need to conventionally torture. Just send the poor fecker on a long air journey sitting between her and Yvette’s Testicles.
The gorgeous Ben (Bradshaw) is good at this. In fact he must spend more time on his artificially sun-kissed hair and whiter than white teeth, and oh so delicately tanned body than he does in his constituency.
On the mindtracker thing I found it hard to separate the performance from the lies – or my opinion of what she is saying rather than the way she comes across. Harperson sounded quite convincing at times, but I know that she’s mainly talking bollox, dampening any leftwards move on the scale. Whereas any points scored by Hague saw me almost knocking my glass of wine over during the requisite movement of the mouse. So, not sure about the usefulness…..Might also have been better if I hadn’t heard or read a bit about today’s PMQs before doing the thing.
Same here. I felt that Hague was winning more because I didn’t believe a word she said than by the power of his argument. I did think that the scale should have gone to minus 30 to reflect more accurately Hatties views.
Same here.
Harman’s secret is – She genuinely believes the rubbish she’s spouting and cannot conceive of any other point of view or that anyone would support any other party than Labour.She won’t listen to anothers’ argument or concede that there may be a grain of truth in their argument. Her view is that the other person simply hasn’t understood the message and therefore they must be talked down to in a condscending “nanny voice” until they accept her view and like most zealots(Mrs Thatcher was another) she is completely humourless so any of Haig’s “bon mots” are completely wasted on her so it is totally pointless even trying to argue with her because she’ll never believe she may be wrong
She has to believe it otherwise her life has been pointless. Still she might suit ermine.
Oh, God. Not another one….!!!
Sounds like a few muslims i know nevermind Hatty Harm men.
I found myself strangely aroused
Just ignore my sub sixth form piss dribble comments.
I only come on here because my life counts for so very little.
Seriously, imagine writing pro Gordon Brown crap on every one of Guido’s posts.
Not exactly a life being well led is it?
Shoot me, please.
Where is the real Jonty?
He impersonates Ron Weasley for kids’ parties during the day
He’s in Manchester. Guido kindly supplied the IP address. Posts as BOTH Master Baiter and Charles E. Hardwidge. The two are the same and he has others and uses the Anonymous.
Someone is paying for this. Part of Labour’s pathetic attempt “to catch up on the right wing blogosphere”. But they’ve seriously missed the point. Blogs are only any good if they are genuinely individualistic and independent.
Surely you can’t quite tell that from the ip address. Two pc’s can easily appear as the same ip address, esp if its in the same campus network (or same house!)
Theres a different style, and Jonty hasn’t got the self discipline to keep the same style to the same pseudonym.
That’s true, he’s got a full schedule of wanking to keep up.
Perhaps he has a little chum to help him
Don’t forget that Harwidge is mainly cuttee pastry from LaboursLost whereas Madame Baiter tries his own material. But you’re right, the latter doesn’t have the style of Hardwedge, in fact has little style at all. They are both coming from the same IP addie and as it is BT I suspect it is in some small office somewhere oop North.
you must mean awarm pouch of kit-e-kat…….
Waste of a bullet.
For God’s sake don’t stop – guido must be paying you fortune to wind up the newbies and create havoc
Just stay off economics
YOUNG JONTY ARE YOU AN IT GRAD, YOUNG JONTY DO YOU DRESS UP IN DRAG
YOUNG JONTY DRINKING THE SU BARS CHEAP BOOZE, YOUNG JONTY GIVING BJ’S IN THE LOO’S
YOUNG JONTY WE’RE SORRY YOU NO FEEL DOWN, YOUNG JONTY CAUSE NO ONE LIKES GORDON BROWN
ETC. ETC.
I think I know what the C stands for now.
Fuck the Metropolitan elite!!
Fuck the Metrosexual weirdos!!
Fuck Gorgonovich and his filthy crew!!
Slap the fucker in the face me hearties – time and time again – nuffin to lose.
That fucker certainly won’t be missed ‘cept by his morally bankrupt troughers, – who, like all ‘good’ so-sher-lersts – follow the money like flys follow shit.
Just to say, Sorry folks
My mind is one swamp of vacuity.
It baffles me that so many of you ordinary humans seem to think that Harriet (I don’t want to be prime minister) Harman is vaguely competent. I suppose that it may be that after Brown, anyone would look competent, but Harman? She was simply lucky that William Hague let her off so lightly today – mabye he felt sorry for her, or more likely, he just couldn’t be bothered arguing with such a stupid tart. Harriet should stick to spreading them for Prezzer – he tells me that she’s quite good at that!
Spreading . . . . jam on Prezza’s tarts?
I think Hague was expecting to be debating with a giraffe and was surprised when Harman turned up instead
He was meant to quiz an ostrich but ended up questioning some bird with odd feathers.
Misog? Where you bin?
Goo on then Freddie lad.
N/O.
Had I not been at work, I’d have tried that.
New IT system, new danger!
I found it hard to believe Harriett was talking anything but tripe – so even though she sounded confident I couldn’t rate her as winning.
Hague on the other hand was almost lethargic so I couldn’t rate him as highly as I would have liked – what was the matter with him today?
When will we see the results of this interesting experiment?
He’s having to give up his outside interests and sources of income.
Which means he loses a lot of income and as he’s lost a lot of capital investing in hedge funds he is ultra sensitive about it.
Anyone would be depressed really.
We’re all depressed thanks to this fucking government.
Except you. Instead of performing any useful function, you are being paid some poor bastard’s hard-earned money – union dues? taxpayers? to sit on here all day and piss people off. Whoever thought it was a good idea is an idiot – there must be plenty of undecideds here who have been put off voting Labour for life.
The moron is keeping the post count way up there in the Premier League of blogs as well as recruiting for the Conservatives by the score.
Which hedge funds would they be? Is this another of yourr assumptions with no basis in fact?
If we’re talking about how politicians come over to the public, did anyone see Bob Ainsworth bumble his way through BBC Breakfast, getting totally mashed by the normally Labour compliant duo of Kate Silverton/Charlie Stayt while attempting to justify Govt. policy on Afghanistan? What on earth is this oaf doing as Minister of Defence? If putting this moron into bat is an indication of is how seriously Brown takes the subject of soldiers being killed on a daily basis, then vis-a-vis our men in that benighted hell-hole of a country, they’re all fucked.
Incidentally Ainsworth seems to be a dead ringer for Potter, the school caretaker in Please Sir, a much-loved 70s sit-com.
National embarrassment.
BTW, Charlie Stayt is one of the most annoying BBC presenters. He can’t ask a question without trying to answer it himself – no interest in the interviewee’s answer at all.
He should go far at the Beeb.
True Labour material and even more uncharismatic than Bill Turnbull
You rememer that Tosser do you!!! lol
The useles prat is my MP waste of space previous experiance was as a Shop Stupid at Jaguar and that about says it all.And he was at Number2 in the Troughing Leage.
I think it’s more an indication of gordon scraping the barrel to find real people who are willing to serve in his drowning cabinet.
All the same it’s a disgrace that our armed forces have this vacuous piece of hot air as their minister.
correct Nell
Yes, I saw the Sergeant Major with his Hitler hair style, ill fitting suit, and heard his ghastly voice spouting inanities. Bob Ainsworthy, what a twerp!
Even more upsetting – I’ve just read that he has been reported as saying “we shall lose more men in Afghanistan – that there is no end in sight, and that it requires patience and courage”
Courage is not something this govt. knows anything about. They send our men out to fight war – ill-equipped, vehicles are not sufficiently protected against attack, there are not enough helicopters – armaments provided are not adequate for the conditions, we don’t have the best body armour available and yet this govt piles millions into refurbishing the MoD offices in London.
Labour’s a disgrace!!!
well said nell.
and as well as a lack of kit and the criminally negligent logistics of the MOD, there is also a key question that remains unanswered by gordon brown: what the fuck are we doing there?
the answer of course is that we are fighting america’s dirty wars.
fuck that shit.
it is time for our troops to come home. they are only drawing terrorists into the region and affirming the propaganda of osama bin laden.
let the Afghans have their country to do with it as they see fit.
it is theirs after all and what they do with it may be of interest to the americans but it is certainly none of our business.
it is time to leave Afghanistan.
pronto.
I have to admit in recent times – the more I’ve read – the more I want say -bring our young men home.
I certainly think – if we don’t have the political will to pile the resources into winning the Afghan war – and under labour we don’t have that will (and there is no more certain indicater of that than the appointment of Bob Ainsworth) – then we should withdraw.
there is no victory to be found in Afghanistan nell.
indeed there is much chance of us finding victory in Aghanistan as there was of us finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
zero chance.
let’s stop throwing our troops to the wolves, eh?
they are worth far more than that.
Just for once tat – I agree with you .
More importantly I just so grieve for these men we are losing and for no real gain.
agreed.
Nell and tat, agreed!
OT, but strangely not when we’re talking Nu Liebore incompetence.
£6m drive to cut teen pregnancies sees them DOUBLE
They don’t have a fucking clue do they?
Didn’t the lovely Jenny Scott used to do this sort of thing on the Daily Politics?
She did – and Brillo used to regularly interject that Pravda would pay for the call. So effectively we were just reversing the charges.
Cameron should definately attack Brown on failed policy. He should not attack Brown personally, because most people can’t stand him already.
Expose New Labour as liars and incompetants, not as social misfits and personality disorders.
Make it clear that New Labour got us into this mess, so are they the people best qualified to get us out?
Of course, Cameron would rather stand against Brown than a replacement.
As I said before, let the Labour Party remove the Brown, Balls, Mandelson triumvirate.
They will given time, just look how uncomfortably shrill Harriet was at PMQ’s today trying to defend Brown’s spending lies.
It’s the economy, stupid.
No, it’s the stupid economy, thanks to one incredibly dumb, chippy Jock.
In the Country of the Blind, the one-eyed man is King.
You are practising for the 2015 general election, when you will be trying to persuade people that the Tory government did not inherit the biggest crock of shit in history.
I have given out your IP address you pathetic little lickspittle! And you, a son of mine too! I despair
Not having had a TV for many years, I’ve never seen Harperson ‘in action’ before. I feel violated. She’s got the charm and charisma of a retarded Dalek.
We are be..tt..err th..ann that
exterminate! exterminate!! exterminate!!!… Hard..bint & Nu La..bour
never laughed so hard in my life.
The IMF has said the recession is ending but recovery wont start until 2010.
I smell a crock of bullshit.
Well gordon said today at the G8 that we are heading for a 2nd recession – he’s conveniently forgotten that he hasn’t gotten us out of the first one yet!
If he’s calling a 2nd recession it’s probably the first green shoot !
The IMF is about to get shafted by the Chinese, Russians, Indians and Brazilians who have been looking at it’s XDR and decided to form their own reserve currency.
One of the things that pisses me right off about PMQ is as soon as there are loads of things that the PM can be attacked on he isn’t there for one reason or another. This time its the G8 can we ever get to hold this yellow backed oon to account.
He’s like a slippery eel rubbed down with KY jelly.
Quite a specialty in NuLab societe’
presumably as opposed to the Tory speciality of fishnet stockings, ropes and oranges.
An amoeba has more backbone.
Seeing the man nailed for his failure was one of the reasons the Hannan video exploded across Youtube, much to the surprise of morons like Mick White who peddle their irrelevant prattlings to the deluded.
He’s all there with his onions.
No, Onions left out so England could play two spinners.
Was this the same place where Guido watched the riots around the Bank of England and took the photo from with cigar in hand?
“City party king who feared he’d lose broker job leaps to death from roof-top restaurant ‘wearing best suit and holding glass of champagne”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1198268/City-party-king-Anjool-Malde-leaps-death-rooftop-restaurant-terrified-lost-job.html
Pity the poor buggers who had to scrape him and his Hugo Boss suit off the pavement. Selfish tosser.
why just why..,,
City sources say the high-flyer ……
Oh dear did they mean that?
I can tell you Brown is a munky’s kok
keep quiet if I was you
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Gadzooks Hattie did talk utter rowlocks didn’t she? I never moved my left hand from -10. I’ve seen Hague do better but then he didn’t really need to turn up the heat on silly Harperson. He just kept his calm and batted her handgrenades back to her. I would have given him +20 had the scale gone that far and that was how good she made him look.
It’s just struck me what she was actually saying and with such conviction. Does she really, really beleive that stuff? God help us all.
£6m drive to cut teen pregnancies sees them DOUBLE
Another New Labia success story.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1198228/6m-drive-cut-teen-pregnancies-sees-DOUBLE.html
More money up the duff.
Lemsip Obod is writing for the Daily Sport!!!
Is he that hard up?
Has he declared this in the register of member’s interests?
http://www.dailysport.com/Lembit_Opik.asp?CID=41
(NWS!)
Funnily enough that’s blocked at work. I think “hard up” is a little cheeky though! Lembit knows a lot about little cheekys…
Must want a matching pair. They don’t come cheap these gold-diggers.
What an utter bellend.
Has Al Gore seen this Graph. A definate link between rising global tempretures and Harmans Verbal emissions.
I did this and would have liked to see the results at the end, but you had to agree to the company sending you spam emails for ever.
G8 here I come, beard and all
don’t worry you’ll be with fellow beard michelle obama if the rumours and youtube claims going around the usa are meant to be believed.
It started in the Manse
There’s a compass in my pants
Peter has me over a barrel
He has photos me in adult babies apparel
I am getting on with the job
Even though the whole country thinks that I am a knob
I know that I am always right
Even though you all think Im shite
You may want to sack me
You may want to attack me
But fuck you
What can you do?
Id butt fuck you for old times sake darling
Are we supposed to be deciding who is the best liar?
I venture to say that Mr Hague was in better form than Ms Harman….and scored accordingly
Say what you like Fawkes but William Hague has got lovely hair.
It’s neat, flows well and shows off that highly polished “high crown” that certain folk would be ashamed of, leading them to hiding that condition beneath elaborate headgear.
William will get my vote when it comes to the “Slap head of the year” nominations
But I’m worth it!
For all we know he may well have a lot of hair. Just not on his head.
My old Dad thinks he looks like a bleached Mekon.
That of course is the trouble with labour – only concerned with appearances – they simply do not understand the need for substance!
yeah, and the conservatives and lib dems and the bn p parties have no substance either nell, it’s a bugger, innit?
hold on nell, I’ve just had a brilliant idea: VOTE INDEPENDENT!
there, now you can stop bitching all the time and focus your energies on a positive, democratic way forward.
vote for a local independent candidate nell. do a bit of research, find a reasonable candidate to support and maybe even do some canvassing for them.
who knows, they might even consider your views seriously, not like those dismissive eton millionaire c’unts who run the tory party.
problem solved nell.
now you can stop fucking moaning and whining all the time.
good one!
happy days!
Please kill yourself when the Tories get in.
Cheers.
Trouble is tat – an independent is not going to command a majority in the Commons, So if we vote for that – we might just end up with a hung parliament or a slim majority to labour.
How would that help the mess we’re in??!!
Worth a go though, eh.
tory dalek,
we will have a hung parliament dalek.
as long as I keep ripping the wires out of c’unts like you we will have a hung parliament.
you can bet on it.
I have.
and you do know david cameron is a housing benefit cheat don’t you?
working people fucking hate benefit cheats like david cameron and gideon osborne.
not only are they both housing benefit cheats they are also millioniares!
oh fuck, what a pair of dodgy thieving fucking c’unts.
and you think those to dope smoking benefit scroungers are going to win the next election?
you must be mad.
FWIW I agree with tat.
We should flood the HOC with indies, then just for once, we might actually have representatives that represent us. Now wouldn’t that be a novelty?
A hung parliament with indies casting the deciding vote would be a very good thing for this country.
nell,
wrong.
the independents will infact hold the balance of power.
43 labour mps helped force through the doubling of poor peoples tax liabilty, only 43 whores.
43 independent mps would really fuck with the party political programme.
it would be quite possible to get 40 independents into the next parliament.
problem solved!
let’s do it nell, let’s reclaim our democracy and vote independent!
hmm interesting thought…but depends on which Indie you got in your constituency surely….can’t trust them to be sound just because they’re independent..
But people vote in candidates just because they represent a party, who would put party policies before principles. Or before what’s best for the people they’re meant to represent. That for starters would put me off. If you’re going to vote for someone to represent you you should be finding out all you can about them anyway. I’ve never found a party candidate I’d trust more than an independent.
I take your point Dack – there have been some excellent independents – Dr Richard Taylor and Martin Bell most recently – but to get things done, some collective discipline is a help, otherwise there’s a danger of much talking and no concensus, and consequently, little positive action. In our current state, we need some positive action.
In general, a governing party that allows it’s mavericks some leeway, and reaches its decisions as far as possible by concensus (the much maligned John Major was quite good at cabinet decision-making) is better than our current blight of a government in which a small cabal makes the decisions and bullies the lobby-fodder into following them. Let’s hope Cameron is, in this respect, more of the mindset of Major than Brown.
we have had far to positive action engineer.
it is time for a slower more thoughtful pace in parliament.
you are only blethering on because you are a tory troll.
retards like you have been rumbled.
an independent vote is a vote for democracy: you have clearly exposed yourself as an undemocratic partisan tory whore.
now bugger off.
Nell tell that to Hugh Grant
The man has made an absolute fucking fortune from his incredibly hirsute bonce,and has got to shag some top totty
Despite being a total fucking Hoon
I so fucking hate him despite the fawning e-mails that he keeps sending to me.
Dear Beast what makes you think all his hair is real??!!
Look at MJ – the coroner said he was actually bald – that’s not how he appeared in public was it?
Appearances are not everything.
Substance Matters!!!!
I always doubted that Jacko’s healthy luxuriant tresses were his own.
Grant, however, is a genuine c*nt.
Well Guido, if you removed all the rubbish I reckon you’d have about 4 sensible (tired) attempts at this; valiant effort.
Next thread please.
NEW THREAD:
Teenage boy from Newcastle has created sperm in his bedroom.
Guardian try to create their own ‘McBride’ scandal.
G8 agree to cut something by 80%.
Sarah Brown meets ex Nazi in Rome.
“Teenage boy from Newcastle has created sperm in his bedroom”
Not really news, is it?
Shouldn’t that be Manchester – he’s on here every day
Does that include this one too?
Anyone been reading Mrs GB’s blog? (apart from you So17)?
What for? She’s less inspiring than her husband.
I see Madame Sarkozy and Mrs Obama displayed some common sense and backbone by refusing to take part in the first day of activities designed for the wives – hosted by Berlusconni’s very young ‘lady friend’ mara carfagna recently awarded with the title italy’s ‘equalities minister, for her services.
Sadly Sarah was less discerning and jumped in with both left feet.
Well she could hardly let the side down after Cherie’s many freebies.
At the risk of lowering the tone, if I where invited to a day of activities with the lovely Mara, I’m not sure I’d turn it down, either.
270 Engineer – Your taste is impeccable re: appearances .
Question is – is she going to contribute anything to good government?
Sarah Brown?
The Blogging Beard
Fair question, Nell. Of course, I don’t know. However, just because a young woman poses for glamorous photographs, it doesn’t necessarily mean that she is completely brainless. I remember the kerfuffle over Koo Stark and her alledged soft-porn movie appearance, but since her breakup with Prince Andrew, she has conducted herself with commendable dignity; never said a word in public about their relationship, so far as I know, despite the money that it could earn for her. Not all models are bimbos.
Fair point too Engineer, I’m just not very convinced old Silvio is particularly bothered about his cabinet’s political credentials….but hey, maybe I’m just a cynic?!
No – you’re right, NG. Italian politics seem to operate along very different lines to British politics. I think on balance, despite current aberrations, I prefer the British version.
They do say that a cynic is just an optimist with experience.
I see the G8 leaders have voted to reduce global temperatures by 2 degrees C by 2050. I can make my living room 2 degrees cooler by 10 to 9, but only becuase I’ve got a thermostat on the wall – how are the G8 supremos going to do it for the planet?
It’s such a stupid idea, I wonder if they chose 2050 because they know they’ll all be dead (or showing dead-like symptoms) by then?
What total bollocks!!!
When more and more of the scientific community are having dounts about the whole Global taxing ‘problem’, what do these governments think needs to be done in order to achieve that target??
The China man planted a bomb at G8 and left under the guise of muslims and hans chopping each other up as an excuse then he’ll trigger the bomb blow them all up and take over the world.
GO CHINA WOO
Sounds like the usual G8 waffle. Agree something – anything – so that they can make portentious noises in the press conference and try to convince the general public that they are doing something. The more obscure and meaningless the something, the better.
All the more advantageous in this case that nobody in 2050, beyond a couple of dusty academics nobody takes any notice of, will remember the announcement at all.
The two greatest industrialising nations in the world, India and China, tonight reject the 2% reduction in temperature – because it would inhibit their growth.
A stupid idea that has just become rubbish – but no doubt gordon will still spin it to infinity. At least until next June.
Guido, have you changed your Favicon? It now appears as a blue circle with a white capital “W”. If you haven’t, perhaps you have been infiltrated. I think we should be told.
it does that occasionally – the icon is of WordPress, who supply the platform to Guido
I don’t know what you did there Steve but it just changed back. Can’t be to careful, what with the weirdos you find on the Blogs these days. Not that there are any on here apart from the usual suspects.
Christ that was a painful experience.
Andy Coulson is now up shit creek looking for a paddle and Cameron will be praying this doesn’t get as much play as McBride.
Cameron’s spin doctor Andy Coulson is trying to pretend he had nothing to do with the now widening phone tap scandal.
Murdoch papers paid £1m to gag phone-hacking victims
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/08/murdoch-papers-phone-hacking
True it’s useless fatboy Prescott asking for the Coulson’s resignation, at the moment. But take a look at names of some of those who had their phones tapped under Coulson’s regime and you will find this is going to annoy quite a few people and call into Question Cameron’s use of the sleazebag.
For example I don’t think all those Tory MP’s who had their phone tapped will be feeling quite as jolly and friendly towards Coulson as Cameron does.
Talk of Select Comittees having a look at this so it’s going to continue being a story.
Ugh! Grubby – Cameron should be more careful in his choice of friends. But at least Murdoch paid to gag them, unlike Balls who tried to use intimidation to gag Fraser Nelson.
I’m confused. Why are the police leaking this to the Guardian? Surely it is/will be sub-judice. Therefore any trial will be populated by a jury that the judge may deem prejudiced and the whole case could collapse.
Or is the Guardian trying to catch up with the Telegraph’s expenses revelations?
The Police are scrambling to cover themselves as it appears they have covered up scores of journalists illegally phone tapping thousands of people.
This is a big story so I’m surprised Guido has been silent so far considering the Political implications. Boris Johnson for example will not be a happy bunny to find out that he was being bugged under Camerons spin doctor’s regime.
The select committe chairman is sticking with the now frankly preposterous “Coulson assured us he had absolutely no knowledge” script, but as the evidence mounts up against him that’s going to be a quote that will come back to haunt him.
Camerons closest allies possibly show his judgement is questionable.
Watch Harriet Harman get Dimbleby to shut up IDS.
shes a reet twat
Absolutely outrageous – I have just checked out the original show in case this was a cut and paste job – gobsmackingly – no it aint..
I know dimbleby is a biased puppet but it is so bloody blatant.
His father must be turning over in his grave.
Its utterly amazing/ How dare they? blood boiling here.
Un-fucking believable.
note to harriet harman: you fucking nazi.
a politician raises the issue of inner city poverty and you direct the chairman to shut them up you fucking satanist whore.
you shut him up because you are a failure as is your party.
you have failed inner city children and when that fact is exposed you shut down the debate.
you black magic motherfucker you are one of Satan’s children.
you are bound for hell you fucking witch and when you go I will spit on your fucking grave you c’unt.
here’s hoping that tomorrow you walk in front of a bus you fucking bitch.
HARRIET IS A COCKSUCKING SLUT AND WAR CRIMINAL.
STRING THE FUCKING EVIL WITCH UP!
WHORE!
REST IN HELL THE LABOUR PARTY DIED TUESDAY 7TH JULY 2009
DEAD DEAD DEAD FUCKING DEAD NO MORE FUCK OFF HARRIET YOU WANKER
Well said, Tat, well said.
Why’d it die yesterday tat? What did I miss?
the patient passed away yesterday new girl because it lost the will to live.
it died because the labour party voted in favour of doubling the tax liability of the lowest paid labour force in the country.
if the labour party does not represent the lowest paid labour in the country then it represents nobody but itself.
therefore the labour party has no point.
therefore it is DEAD DEAD DEAD KILLED BY THE HOMOSEXUAL SOCIOPATH GORDON BROWN THE TORTURER IN CHIEF OF THE NEW LABOUR NAZI, WAR, TORTURE AND OCCUPATION PARTY.
FUCK YOU LABOUR YOU ARE DEAD NOW DEAD DEAD DEAD ALL THAT IS LEFT IS THE BONFIRE TO BURN YOU WHORES AND TRAITORS ON
YOU FUCKING BLACK MAGIC SATANISTS I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVES YOU FUCKING C’UNTS!
that is why the labour party died on the 7th July 2009, new girl.
oh.
yes, it is a quite a heavy one, innit.
it is a matter of principles.
He was going on a bit like
if you don’t get it fuck off.
you shouldn’t be here.
You’re certainly not getting any by the sound of it……as per usual.
were you once Tat’s friend??
Yeah, he invited me over to have a fiddle on his playstation, and one thing led to another.
didn’t your mother warn you about stuff like that?
Now his “friend” has got a puncture.
you were never a friend of mine c’unt.
but new girl is.
aren’t you new girl?
She’s not technically minded.
Tat has never liked girls since they all laughed at him at school for smelling of stale piss.
well, Tat maybe I’m your friend in a you terrify me and I think you may be a serial killer way….will that do?
well that is the effect I am trying to cultivate.
Yeah, a serial killer who smells of stale piss.
NO ONE should watch the BBC. I literally would not have believed that had I not seen it. Has anyone complained?
Its pointless complaining about their bias. I’ve tried it. They just send back a standard e-mail pontificating about editorial independence and shit.
I have removed BBC from my channel list. There isnt anything to watch.
It is a nest of parasitic pocialist propaganda merchants.
They shall be de-socialistified.
bloody good idea. there’s nothing worth watching anyway.
Countryfile? (OK – parts of). Can’t think of much else, though.
They’re loving the Murdoch story.
Takes the heat off them they hope.
Isn’t it time we had a demo in Parliament Square? A very big demo
I have long since given up on regarding Harriet (equality minister) Harman as anyone worthy of holding the post of deputy PM. as she would only represent 1/2 the nation!!
http://search.bbc.co.uk/search?go=ho…&Search=Search
She even made Jenni Murray gasp when she unashamidly accepted she was keen for woman who murdered to get a lighter sentance then blokes and defended her femminist doctorine! Erin Prizzey on the other hand speaking on the Today programme around the same time said ” Murder is Murder!” also did you notice her asking Mr. Dimbleby to try to shut Ian Duncan- Smith ( Family spokesman for the Tory party) see above video!!
she wouldn’t bloody represent my half, I can tell you that! She can stuff her feminism right up her arse, real women don’t need people like her patronising them.
I do so agree!!
Harriet in her tinman/yellow brick road suit didn’t even look as though she could represent the 1970’s feminists who expounded the ‘woman needs man like fish needs a bicycle’ philosophy.
We modern women are far superior to that nonsense!!!!
Course we are Nell. utterly liberated by my own efforts thank you very much Harriet, so fuck off. (sorry language Nell, still seething about that you tube clip)
I totally agree NG and nell.
What I can’t stand about Harperson (and women like her) is her default ’sweet little me’ act she plays to the nearest male in authority whenever she’s challenged. I’ve known so many so-called career women like her — over-promoted and not up to the job.
They hate anyone who’s truly qualified, competent and good at their job, male or female, as it shows them up for what they are, and will undermine the good ones at every opportunity. Bitches.
Too right N.G.!
It is the month of August, on the shores of the Black Sea. It is raining, and the little town looks totally deserted. It is tough times, everybody is in debt, and everybody lives on credit.
Suddenly, a rich tourist comes to town.
He enters the only hotel, lays a 100 Euro note on the reception counter, and goes to inspect the rooms upstairs in order to pick one.
The hotel proprietor takes the 100 Euro note and runs to pay his debt to the butcher.
The butcher takes the 100 Euro note, and runs to pay his debt to the pig farmer.
The pig man takes the 100 Euro note, and runs to pay his debt to the supplier of his feed and fuel..
The supplier of feed and fuel takes the 100 Euro note and runs to pay his debt to the town’s prostitute that in these hard times, gave her “services” on credit.
The hooker runs to the hotel, and pays off her debt with the 100 Euro note to the hotel proprietor to pay for the rooms that she rented when she brought her clients there.
The hotel proprietor then lays the 100 Euro note back on the counter so that the rich tourist will not suspect anything.
At that moment, the rich tourist comes down after inspecting the rooms, and takes his 100 Euro note, after saying that he did not like any of the rooms, and leaves town.
No one earned anything. However, the whole town is now without debt, and looks to the future with a lot of optimism..
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how the U.K. Government is doing business today.
Is the conclusion that Britain’s tourism industry is going to dig us out of this economic hole?
good parable well i liked it anyway.
G8 Summit of the Leaders of the World!!!! They’d like to think
gordon on his last political legs.
berlusconni mired in his sex scandal
merkel facing election in the autumn
medvedev – putin’s puppet
hu jintao going home to china to threaten protestors with the death penalty
and on and on
and they reckon they are going to reduce climate by 2 degrees by 2050?
This lot won’t be around next year let alone 2050!!
just shoot em up the arse
gordon – mandy’s puppet
you know what the funniest thing about you is?
your name.
the rest of your posts are a load of fucking shit.
fuck off to auntie dales or conservativefoam you wanker.
Christ Almighty.
Whistle while you work,
tatty is a twerp,
He’s half barmy,
So’s his army,
tatty is a twerp.
Und yor name iss goink on ze list. Vot is yor name?
Don’t tell him tat!
;-)
ah, now my fans are even writing songs about me.
I am becoming something of a blogosphere legend.
excellent!
A leg-end more like.
Ha ha ha :-) first time you made me laugh TaT
Hey Guido is there anything we should be doing to keep the pressure on the troughing MPs? It seems Brown and to a lesser extent Cameron have used the scandal to settle a few scores, and now people like Darling think they have got away with it. What can we do to turn the heat back up on them, now that the MSM have lost interest?
Await the chance to deploy the most powerful weapons you have. First, the little stub of pencil in the voting booth, and second, the keyboard of your computer and this blog.
Public Opinion, innit.
Just keep posting on here!!!!
unless you get banned ofcourse nell.
and what is this modded thing you keep going on about?
I never get modded.
That’s because Guido pulls your comments rather than mods them.
tat loves being pulled, so be careful what you say nell.
eh up lads i done well got 37 more than strauss or cook the big lad is back
336 for 7 .
Team must do better tomorrow.
We’re all rooting for you and very glad that gordon is so emersed in his G8 experience of saving the world that he has not thought about english cricket and it’s current battle with the ashes.
Long may it last.
we are all in good nick , you all wait till monty gets bowling he is licking his lips
You and Matt Prior had them worried. Shame it didn’t last longer, it was good entertainment. Need a good wag from the tail tomorrow, though. 450 would be useful.
swannie aint no mug with the bat and monty hit murrli for six dont worry lad
Well done our Freddie. They’ve got a couple of tasty new bowlers though. Can’t wait to see you having a throw tomorrow!
eh up lad watch out for monty and jimmy
That Cardiff Bay Barrage Scheme has created the biggest pedalo pond in Wales.
not till after the ashes lad
Troughing League Table. Here’s the top five.
1. Elizabeth Saxe-Coburg, Unattached (Loadsamoney/Windsor) 180 Million
2. Eleanor Lang, Con, Epping Forest, 1.5 Million
3. Eric Joyce, Lab, Falkirk, 187, 334
4. Michael Connarty, Lithlingow & Falkirk East, 183, 466
5. Alistair Carmichael, LibDem, Orkney & Shetland, 176, 190
Nazis in Suits. Dats wot we WANT!!!!!!!!!
Fuck all the above, another one of Our Brave Soldiers died in Afghanistan today and look what our pathetic politicians were involved in:-
During 1982 and 1983, Ainsworth was a candidate member of the International Marxist Group.
Wiki has an interesting article on the International Marxist Group – take a look at the picture of the magazine on the right:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Marxist_Group
and he’s in charge of defence
And Alastair Darling (also ex IMG) is nominally in charge of the economy.
This man is not fit for purpose, this govenment is not fit for purpose, period. They never answer questions, always blame siome one else, time for change.
”Scargill himself has become more politically outspoken, defending Stalin”
lol this is the kind of people we’re dealing with on the left.
I thought Scargill was dead. What did he achieve when he was alive ? Nothing that I can recall.
He was old when I was young.
He wrecked the mining industry.
Oh! typical Labour result then.
Scargill wasn’t the only one at fault.
Great idea, but needs improving to deal with the nations hatred of Brown
As soon as Harman started talking I naturally turned it right down, but then she just kept blabbing on like an ansaphone message left to PMQs from Gordon, and I couldn’t dial down any further
It needs a minus eleven on the dial
Ha ha love your name!
I’m willing to bet you go to eleven NewGirl.
Dear Nasty Gilmour
“More like a jealous, twisted, vindictive, cowardly, poisonous, backstabbing bearer of false witness who thinks old men having heart attacks is funny”.
I am not a Tory.
I am a humble Glaswegian pottering about the place.
“What a horrible little specimen you are, George”.
A product of the University of Glasgow.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
I don’t recall calling you a Tory… More false allegations and downright lies, huh, George? You got booted out of Uni. and you’re bitter about it. Big deal.
Dear Nasty Gimour
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my chest!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Dear Nasty Gimour
False alarm just gas!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
George Laird
The Campaign for a taxpayer funded job for life, regardless of ability.
Dear anticitizen
I am new to blogging so please bare with me. I popped into your site and guess what it is pretty tame.
Is it no balls or no principles?
At least I am not a cowardly Obi wan Kaknoblet like you.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
George old boy howcome your not on the glasgow uni alumni list.
Hey George, Curious to know what the “Human Rights Issues” are at Glasgow Uni , are they still subjecting the Students to waterboarding or rendering them secretly to the Yanks in the middle of the night utilising UK air Space ? Just wondering old chap !
Mr Speaker
Today I am proud to announce that the people of Britain are this week 15% happier than they were under the evil tories.
House prices are rising as is employment.
As we all know the sun is shining each day and rain is just an invention of the evil Tories who would do nothing about providing umbrellas to hard working pensioners if it was really raining (which it isnt)
Can I further say how very much that I love this very snug jacket that Baron Peter has given me.
It has stopped my uncontrolable hand movements and compulsive nail biting with the added bonus that I look fit and ready in it Mr Speaker
(jeers from the benches)
‘ order, order!’ said the Squeaker ‘the leader of the opposition…’
“as we all know, there some people in this country, who are not 15% happier than last week. Some are only 10% happier, and others actually sadder. Some people are even pretending to be happy whilst they are very sad inside. Will the Prime Minister agree that his policy on happiness is not working, and admit that happiness will be cut in the future?”
Video isn’t working on IE for FF. Maybe it’s just my computer.
Likewise – complete video failure. Just sat there, noit even a flashing light on my router most of the time. I tried twice.
Dial thing was working fine though I but tried to keep it in the middle. I hope your player gives frame by frame data not second by second data or it’ll be completely meaningless.
Can’t say I’m particularly enamoured with Cameron but for me he’s getting PMQ’s about right. Brown’s obviously angry enough for two normal people so Cam’s lighter touch just makes the Jock look morose & bad tempered. If Cam ups the ante he’ll lose that advantage.
What I would like to see, and the last PMQ’s before the recess would be a good opportunity, would be for him to just get up and announce that he doesn’t propose to ask any questions as he never gets a proper answer. Then walk out.
The film thing didn’t do anything. What are the technical requirements?
Phone Intercept:
‘Hull Tandoori Balti house’
‘Aye, I want a fooking chicken tikka, a meat korma, bindi bhaji,onion salad’
‘Thank you’
‘Hold on Gungadin, thats just me fooking starter. Give me for me main a number 42 meal for six and 5 shami kebabs, oh aye and some chips’
‘Thank you, and your name?’
‘Prescott’
‘Pressot’
‘No Prescott’
‘Err pressup’
‘Nay Fooking Prescott, Christ who let you into the fooking country’
Beeeeeeeeeep
Sorry but you might as well have permanent buttons for me, one saying “Brown is a one eyed gay jock twat and should fuck off back to Scotland or jump in front of a fast moving train” and another button saying “Harman is a leftist man hating ugly fat dyke that should jump off a cliff”
I’d wear them out in seconds
So, what story did you sell to Peter Oborne tonight Guido?
Told him how loudly your sister squeals at the point of orgasm.
How much dosh then? Go on – pray Guido, do tell all.
Perhaps with your Daily Mail windfall you can get rid of all the shit adverts that plaster your blog?
WTF is bhownagree doing back? Have Liebore clawed back 1% in the polls?
i lol’d
Ah, Bhownaggree has returned to remind us of happier times when we merely gossiped about Tessa Jowell’s mortgage and our ordinary savings accounts were paying 5+%.
Like many of us, I’m sure he never really went away
Hi Guido
Anything more on this one!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5781611/MPs-expenses-the-Tory-MP-an-au-pair-and-his-13000-on-expenses.html
Bet she ‘aint ugly!
We did that yesterday.
Prescott doing his bollocks because his phone was tapped and the police did nothing.
Hey John I had my bike nicked and my car broke into four times and the fucking police did nothing. Get over it fat boy.
Whet did they get off fat boy’s phone? That he was fucking the brains out of some ugly fat slag during working hours?
6,000 calls to the takeaway.
News tonight is the cricket pitch in Cardiff is breaking up and won’t last the five days of the test. So much for Glamorgan’s £3.2million that they paid for the privelege then?
Bit like brown’s labour government. Coming to a premature end (even before it has had the chance to be properly elected)
‘Night. God Bless.
Life on here can be such fun sometimes++++smiles++++
Not talking about Andy Going to Jail Caulston eh Guido
Andy’s boys sourced their contact for their stories from the Social Security Data Base. That will be the two discs Andy had stolen to order.
Who’s Andy Caulson?? The expenses disk man?
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Fucking hell
The CIA offed that Hoon Kennedy
WTF are ours doing apart from a little light facebooking?
Come on lads
if you can do Kellly
Do us all a favour and and send wacko Jocko to the great haggis factory in the sky
I saw PMQ’s yesterday and I agree with NewGirl’s take on it ……… what is the point of this weekly fiasco because Harman failed to answer (in a pithy way, as per Speaker’s directive the other day) even one of Hauge’s questions. In fact she droned on and on for so long I forgot the original fucking question that was asked.
Bercow, in my view is all mouth and no action. He should have stepped in and told Harman to answer the fucking question.
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SARAH PALIN IS DE FACTO UNKL SAM PRESLEYDENT
Dear barefootcontessa
I would like to say that I get my decorating done privately.
Just for the record.
Your comment;
“therwise you end up slurring the name of that great institution The University of Glasgow!”
Like swimming read this
http://glasgowunihumanrights.blogspot.com/2009/07/stevenson-building-glasgow-university.html
Great you say?
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
George you are clearly mad. Good day to you sir.
No, you were right first time. It’s Osborne
Being markely superior to both the current and former chancellors is hardly a ringing endorsment is it? Like Osborne, they were both wankers.
Right, so what do you English people actually want? Osborne, non negotiable, Darling well!!! So, who do you think is going to solve all your problems? Watt Tyler? Jesus Christ, if there was an Olympic Sport in moaning you would gain Gold everytime. Seriously. What sort of Government doe you actually want or indeed need?
We want a government who actually represents us – the people – rather than themselves! Is that really too much to ask?
You want an answer to that in a couple of sentences? Eejit
It’s delusional.
Where will you find one?
Not at all, but, tell me, how would you go about it? You actually have more power than you are led to believe. So please to tell, you have been led by the nose for so long, and you actually believe all their Legislation, if you even had half a brain you would actually know that this England belongs to us.
Yes actually, I would or give me a paragraph.
Sorry, straight forward question. No answer. I love England, but not what it has become, so, I ask myself? What must I do? Fight, against all that is thrown at us, we cannot stay silent for very much longer otherwise, really we have no where else to go.
Well write one then!! We await your pen is greater than the sword moment with baited breath!!!!
Darcy you clarnet, it has never been any different, look around you
The political class have less power now than any time in history, they have lost control of communication between citizens
Brown will be flushed down the sewer with the year – good times will be here again soon, credit crunch…..tax…..no pension……it is only money
if you have cancer or a heart problem you have more chance of extended life than any time in history – so cheer up lads
I love Pukka Pies
I love halal kebabs on a friday night for that reason alone the turks can stay