The House of Lords Select Committee on the Constitution report on the Parliamentary Standards Bill was out yesterday, and they didn’t pull their punches:
We are particularly concerned by the hasty manner in which policy-making has taken place, with negligible public consultation, and the subsequent ‘fast-tracking’ through Parliament of a bill which will have major constitutional implications… the bill is the product of a desire to respond to a demand to see something done, as the Government put it, rather than the outcome of a law-making process suitable for a bill with serious constitutional repercussions… The bill will accordingly have to be substantially recast. To do so under an accelerated passage is in our view wholly unacceptable given the questions of constitutional principle and detail that it raises… We are wholly unpersuaded by the Government’s case for this bill to be fast-tracked. There is an undoubted need to restore public confidence in the parliamentary system. It is not, however, clear to us that a cobbled together bill rushed through Parliament will help rebuild public trust; on the contrary, if Parliament cannot be seen to be scrutinising proposals with the thoroughness they deserve, public confidence in parliamentarians is likely to be further undermined. Governments should find the strength to resist falling into a temptation simply to see something done, which is no substitute for properly prepared policy and legislation.
As the Lords say, it is a hastily cobbled together rush to “do something” – the wrong thing. The report diplomatically describes the Prime Mentalist’s expenses announcement on YouTube as “constitutionally unorthodox”. Stark raving mad would be many of his own backbenchers description. The Kelly inquiry into MPs’ expenses from the Committee on Standards in Public Life won’t report back until the autumn. It is carrying out wide public consultations. This fast-tracked Bill is like something out of Alice in Wonderland, just as the Queen wanted ‘sentence first – verdict afterwards’, Gordon in Blunderland wants ‘legislation first, consideration afterwards’. Bonkers.
Election now please
so the lords have some uses ?
guido lad you got a typo , its not is brown bonkers ? , its brown is bonkers !
Hurry up Freddie or you’ll miss the bus !!
timekeeping not my strong point lad
Almost a shame Brett Lee is not fit. I was looking forward to a Flintoff/Lee battle – it’s one of the great duels of world cricket at the moment.
Hope the rain disappears, as well.
Turkeys unhappy at the approach of Christmas shocker.
Get rid of the lot of them. Check this out –
http://tinyurl.com/mpuvab
Gary Elsby has posted an article on Labourlist
I went on a university funded trip to Euroland years ago. Chatting with al the 20-something Euro-philes there they exulted in the way that incoming MEPs inevitably ‘went bush’ and embraced the whole idea. And, 20 years later I have to say it seems they were, on the whole, right.
But the Lords has an opposite effect. Folk who have prostituted every principle they ever had to become party apparatchiks, once freed of the need to brown-nose their political masters, suddenly rediscover their conscience. Well a lot of them do. Which is why they were able to hold up the hunting Bill for so long and why they are able to talk sense to this hastily cobbled together piece of shit. A political Bill that seeks to conflate the sins of dodgy expenses with the totally irrelevant issue of MP’s ‘second jobs’.
A spolier introduced purely for political reasons by this evil government that has no intention of treating this as anything other than a partisan opportunity to kick the Tories. Or at least muddy the waters in the voters eyes by getting ‘second jobs’ mentioned in the same sentence as ‘old boys club’, ‘duck houses’ etc etc.
Meanwhile Darling, the quadruple flipper, is still AWOL.
Bastards.
Precisely.
Spot on as always jgm2
Actually, it should be a requirement that MPs have a second job (outside politics). That way we’ll get less legislation, less need for their high salaries/expenses, and a better understanding of everyday working life. All plus points.
This is what should happen:-
(1) Parliament should only meet when there is something to discuss, like going to war. Rest of the time, MPs should be in their constituencies – being told what (not to) do, opening Church Fetes and nurseries, and judging pretty-garden contests.
(2) The buggers must not be paid.
(3) They can only “enter Parliament” after a career spanning most of their life in something else – anything else except politics masquerading as “public sector work”. Nobody with a PPE degree can apply – in fact, this deisqualifies you from the Electoral Role, as being of unsound mind.
(4) MPs can be summoned to debate the “Budget”, once a year. This can be cut to $120 billion right now: it will just about cover defence, about 100 billion, and Policing, most of the rest.
(5) All other State departments can be shut down – especially the Foreign(ers’) Office.
Thanks JGM2. Better than reading the Telegraph
**Applause**
Start a blog, quick
We actually only need a Tax Bill in Parliament about once every three years. The Yanks manage all right on that basis. Most of the annual Finance Bill is just the Treasury and the Revenue showing off and mucking people about.
Jgm2, APPLAUSE!
They’re two sides of the same shitty coin.
Troughists sucking up phoney expenses are just the same as MPs trousering full time salaries…which we pay for…for part time work.
One bastard has ten jobs. What am I paying him for? Coming to parliament to use the subsidised bar and claim his massive expenses, that’s what. And even when he’s here, he has to be thinking about his other jobs…otherwise they wouldn’t be paying him the hundreds of thousands he receives from them.
The bastards are taking us for a ride and we simply must not go soft on them just because one aspect of their criminal cupidity has been exposed.
Masterly analysis, J – thank goodness someone is thinking clearly!
So the Lords don’t “go bush” and embrace the whole idea of the Lords do they ? Horseshit. Once they don the ermine robes and pick up their not inconsiderable daily allowances and perks they are as limpet like as the Euro hacks in trying to keep their nice little earner.
Perhaps you missed the recent scandals that have been in the newspapers ? Baroness Uddin ? Doesn’t ring a bell does it ? Or any of the other Piggy Peers I suppose.
What about the cash for amendments ? Did that pass you by too ?
Here’s an easier one. Lord Mandelson and all the other unelected hacks parachuted into the cabinet by a desperate Brown. Funny thing, I could have sworn people were rightly pissed off about that but I must have imagined it clearly.
Here’s the simplest one of all to get your head around. Lord Archer.
Some of the piggies thankfully won’t be coming back as MPs because of the public outrage but a Lord remains a Lord no matter what.
Yeah, thank christ the Lords doesn’t need reform eh ? Speaking of christ I’m sure all those Bishops deserve to be srutinising Legislation particularly when it comes to child welfare.
The Lords is as full of Party hacks as it ever was and they still have whips for the Lords. The fact that some of them aren’t quite as dronelike as some backbenchers doesn’t make them any less unelected or some of them any less senile.
Are the reforms hastily cobbled together and being used for Partisan gain ? Well DUH! Doesn’t mean a fully Elected House of Lords is not long overdue nor does it mean that it couldn’t be structured to get rid of Party hacks constantly getting the nod.
And second jobs is intended to be a spoiler obviously but I don’t want these troughing Piggies dipping from two wells when then they are supposed to be representing their constituents and funnily enough neither does Cameron who is belatedly realising the public doesn’t find it too amusing either.
It’s a pity George Osborne is also a flipper but what’s a little hypocrisy among firends eh ?
Bastards. And not just from the one Party either.
Bloody right they do! Well done M’Lords & Ladies.
BTW., since when did Labour ever consider the consequences of their legislation?
It’s them first and the rest of us last.
I hate the Labour Party and the shit they have put this country in.
Tossers the lot of them.
They’re not tossers at all: they are highly-motivated, fanatical and deeply wicked individuals who know exactly what they have been doing and why.
By the same token, it’s very odd that the ‘Lords’ concerned about ‘public distrust’ didn’t concern themselves with the ‘Zanu style’ police raid on the ‘truth speaking’ MP Damien Green and his family.
Those in the Fees Office responsible for alleged ‘improper payments’ should and could have been subjected to full and thorough investigation on day one. The anticipated lengthy Kelly Inquiry is a further waste of taxpayers money – tracking those responsible in the Fees Office is ‘child’s play’; they should be duly dismissed.
Smoke and mirrors … winning trust to abuse trust is Nuliebor’s only forte.
Inquiries are set up so that the government is given breathing time to, – sort things out’. Those in charge of the inquiry are carefully chosen so that they put the government in a good light, and cover up unpleasant truths. When the results of an inquiry EVENTUALLY emerge most people have forgotten what the fuss was about. Original detail is lost with the passage of time and obfuscation. Inquiries are a way of setting aside potential danger for the government, Newlabour have set them up willy nilly at huge cost to the tax payer.
They’ll never track me down…I wear a false nose and mustache when I’m handling expense claims!
The haste is all the more bizarre given that the likelihood of MPs* fiddling their expenses is currently as an all time low.
* Well, other than the most desperate troughers filling their pockets before the General Ellection, of course. But they’ll not be covered by the new provisions anyway.
Except that there’s no guarantee that we’ll ever get again the chance to see the detail the Telegraph had of MPs expenses.
If the redacted versions are the best version of ‘openness’ parlimanet
is prepared to let us see, we’re left to hope that some public spirited individual will leak them again next year.
And you can bet the parliamentary authorities have already thought THAT one through …
Brown’s complicated laws show he is bonkers. All that is needed is a requirement to publish MPs expenses, without censorship.
Stephen byers gets something blue thrown at him. Great! He’s been able to throw shite at us, but won’t like having it thrown at him.
If CMD really does read Guido than he must realise that to produce a land slide he must create real clear water between the parties. The announcement on Quangos yesterday could also generate the same reply from the Lords as above. I know that Golum steals any good tory ideas, but painting only half a picture, yesterday probably, is not creating the clear water!
Golum would not be able to “steal” Tory policies if CMD really did produce Tory policies.
Fair point. CMD more of the same, change the tune slightly
who is coming up with all this fascist anti-British legislation?
the americans ofcourse!
gordon brown is an agent of american interests.
he is a turncoat.
and the extradition of a man with mental health issues on terrorist charges is a classic example of that fact.
note to alan johnson: grow a spine.
tat lad if he aint got a spine at 40 ish he aint going to grow one now lad
that is a bloody good point freddie. i
f you bat ‘em away like that lad the ashes are ours.
now go give those convicts a good hiding.
If the Home Secretary had a spine, the Americans would be asked to hand over the IRA terrorists, I mean “freedom fighters” they have been keeping safe in the US all these years.
Alan johnson reminds me of the cowardly lion in the wizard of oz
Was that a postman too?
The prime minister is stark raving, gibberingly constitutionally unorthodox! I think that one will enter the satirists dictionary along with tired & emotional, Ugandan discussions and economical with the truth.
And not forgetting: the extraordinary confession that as Chancellor he ‘didn’t know a lot about’ sub-prime mortgages – a key banking practice that sparked the economic collapse.
Sub-Prime mortgages are a massive “hint” that there was FAR too much credit and reserves needed to be raised.
PS
and not forgetting Hoons of course. Seeing tat reminded me.
you would be lost without me doctor mick.
and I am glad to see your treatment is beginning to work, we haven’t had any violent, racist outbursts from you lately.
but you will have to remain on your section until you are fully cured.
No outbursts tat because I’ve been out in the Middle East harpooning Palestinian children. Now that foxhunting is banned, what else is a chap to do in his spare time?
oh dear.
note to self: increase the voltage, we must wipe dr dick’s mind of its zionist child killing thoughts.
it always happens with mental patients like you doctor, just when they have almost tricked the professionals into thinking they are fit for release they just can’t help but blurt out their mad inner thoughts.
happens every time.
Hey you should be pleased. I wanted to take my new carbon fibre seal clubs, but my jewish gillie (Moshe the Squasher) persuaded me that this method is rather unsporting at this time of year.
funny innit, you would think the last thing jewish people would do after suffering a holocaust would be to commit genocide against their neighbours.
and it is worth remembering that jews and Palestinians are of the same race.
go figure.
We agree tat: it is the last thing they would do. Don’t believe all the houmos propaganda.
weaker and weaker dr dick.
your zionist genocide propaganda seems to rely on taking the public for fools.
oh and of blocking off your war crime scene from reporters.
but the UN have the evidence of the war crimes committed by israel.
go give them your eyewash child killer, we’re not interested in your bullshit.
you are going to hell doctor dick because you are a satanist zionist child killer.
Palestine will be free at last, free from the zionist’s nazi occupation.
Praise the Lord.
Amen.
As the Lord said to Moses, “Keep taking the tablets.”
As the Lord said to the great thick as thieves
“Go give those zionist child murderers a good bashing tat.
They are not my chosen people, they are just war criminals.
When I said suffer little children I did not mean that zionists should bomb Palestinian children sitting in their classrooms.
You have my permission to bash their brains out, it is your duty tat.”
Amen.
Is tat short for twat.?
And the wise and merciful thick as thieves pleaded with the Lord to not be too harsh in his choice of punishment the zionists would get for purposely murdering innocent children, just to stir up trouble and prolong the conflict.
He prayed on their behalf for mercy.
“Lord forgive them. the zionist retards know not what they do.” cried out thick as thieves (genius:1st Class)
and the Lord replied
“Oh yes they do the c’unts. Those Zionists work for Satan, not for me.
Fuck them, you have my permission to crush their devlish skulls into the ground.
In fact that is an order tat, take out the zionist propagandists.
Black magic motherfuckers.”
Amen
Give the gift of Pizza to the IDF- Killing Terrorists so we don’t have to!
you are a child killer apologist anticitizen.
that is nothing to be proud of you imbecile.
oh and the israel genocide force love pizza because they are a bunch of potheads.
rubbish army really, absolutely useless, stoned most of the time.
very good at killing civilians and children though.
bloody war criminals, string ‘em up I say.
Sorry mentally ill TaT,
It’s Hamas that commit war-crimes by firing rockets at civilian towns.
Then the IDF have to tidy up for us, and they do exceptionally well to keep “civilian” casualties down, as Islamists base themselves in civilians areas (another war-crime).
Here’s how to spot a war-crime:
http://www.icrc.org/IHL.nsf/WebART/470-750065?OpenDocument
Here’s how to be a gullible socialist rube:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
It’s the millionaire elite of Hamas (who live on those big villas in the hills) that started this by provoking Israel into retaliation, knowing fine well that there would be civilian casualties. That is exactly what Hamas wanted. You don’t get funds unless you get sympathy.
oh gawd, I will have to give you another lesson in propaganda computer nerd.
golden rules of propaganda:
rule number 2) in war the side that kills more of the other side wins.
in occupation the side that kills more of the other side loses.
now, how many palestinians have the israelis murdered during the occupation and how many israelis have been murdered by hamas home made rockets?
do the math.
defeat is staring you in the face anticitizen.
you lose.
israel is occupying Palestine.
stealing is wrong, didn’t your whore mother teach you that?
the slut probably didn’t.
doctor dick,
well that shows you how stupid the israeli’s are innit!
I warned them against but their seems to be something wrong with the zionsist brains, must be a genetic defect.
tat, you have a rather abrasive way with words, but in essence you are right.
that is a nice thing to say.
thank you very much barefootcontessa.
regards etc
Abrasive? Yes. Stupid? No. Funny? Cracks me up, anyway.
#582 Israel cannot ‘occupy’ their own land.
Can grasp where you’re coming from. Strange for an English Viking
Try giving President Obama your eyewash zionist troll.
if you are not occupying Palestine then why did the President tell you to stop illegally building on Palestinian Land?
DOH!
you dumbass!
An election before Brown creates his own Apocalypse Now
Bit late, I’d say. It’s Apocalypse Now if you ask me.
CORMAN
“Well, you see Willard… In politics , things get confused
out there, power, ideals, the old morality, and practical
military necessity. Out there with these natives it must be
a temptation to be god. Because there’s a conflict in
every human heart between the rational and the irrational,
between good and evil. The good does not always triumph.
Sometimes the dark side overcomes what Lincoln called
the better angels of our nature. Every man has got a
breaking point. You and I have. Gordon Brown has reached his.
And very obviously, he has gone insane.”
WILLARD
“Yes sir, very much so sir. Obviously insane.”
LUCAS
“Your mission is to proceed up to Thames river in a Navy
patrol boat. Pick up colonel Brown’s path at Roterhithe ,
follow it, learn what you can along the way. When you find
Brown, infiltrate his team by whatever means available and
terminate the Prime Mentalist’s command.” WILLARD
“Terminate ? The Prime mentalist ?”
CORMAN
“He’s out there operating without any decent restraint.
Totally beyond the pale of any acceptable human conduct.
And he is still in the field commanding his troops.”
CIVILIAN
“Terminate with extreme prejudice.”
LUCAS
“You understand captain… , that this operation does
not exist, nor will it ever exist.”
“Why ? Why would a nice guy like you wanna kill a genius ?
You know that the man really likes you. He likes you, he
really likes you. He’s got something in mind for you. Aren’t
you curious about that ? I’m curious, I’m very curious. You
curious ?There’s something happening out there, man.
You know something, man, I know something that you don’t
know. That’s right, jack. The man is clear in his mind, but his
soul is mad . Oh yeah. He’s dying, I think. He hates all
this, he hates it! But … the man’s … uh … he reads poetry out
loud, alright? … And a voice! A voice. … He likes you because
you’re still alive. He’s got plans for you. Nah, nah, I’m not
going to help you, you’re going to help him, man. You’re going
to help him. I mean, what are they going to say, man, when he’s
gone, huh? Because he dies, when it dies, man, when it
dies, he dies. What are they going to say about him? What, are
they going to say, he was a kind man, he was a wise man, he had
plans, he had wisdom? Bullsh-t, man! Am I going to be the one,
that’s going to set them straight? Look at me: wrong! … You!”
Outstanding Red Team, get you a case of beer for that one.
The people that call for that in Scotland get smeared and blackmailed or used as some political smear tool.
Brown and his cronies are attempting to hold onto power by ALL means possible and the tories are just as complicet.
BREAKING NEWS: Tessa Jowell makes sincere and well-crafted speech on 7/7
This is a timely reminder that there are some things, such as quiet dignity, which we as a nation do very well. Prince Charles has shown unequivocally that he is an asset to be prized.
The opposite of Jowell. Dignified and fluent delivery, cliché infected script – “profoundly”, “deplorable” etc.
It wasn’t badly scripted. Its delivery was ruined by Jowell treating each word as a separate sentence.
Where did she get that face??
She should ask for her money back!!!!!
Blair.
Was a.
Pain in the ….. bottom for.
Doing the same.
(Long pause) Thing.
Did Tessa Jowell, While making her sincere and well crafted speech on 7/7, explain WHY the emergency services decided to carry out mock emergency drills against terrorist bomb attacks at the exact locations and at the exact times as the 4 alleged Muslim terrorists, who planted their alleged bombs in the same exact locations and at the same exact times. as the emergency drills took place, bareing in mind that the likelihood of this happening would be odds of 3715592613265750000000000000000000000000 to 1. Did Tessa also explain why it was totally impossible for the 4 alleged Muslim terrorists to have planted the tube bombs, because police evidence states that the 4 Muslims travelled on the 0740 train from Luton to Kings Cross. There is irrefutable evidence that the 0740 and the 0748 were canceled, this made it totally impossible to connect to the tube network and detonate at the actual time that the bombs went off. VIEW RIPPLE EFFECT ON YOU TUBE.
Do you believe in fairies too? twat
Climb back into your moron zone, keep watching Eastenders and Corra. twat.
Headless chickens
Tasty!!
Or is Gordoom a chickenless head?
More of a total cock.
Yep, that’s what he is
How can labour create a constitution without the contents being put to the people in a referendum?
This is the usual bullshit from them, and i`d lay good money they totaly ignored comman law as well.
“How can labour create a constitution without the contents being put to the people in a referendum?”
Say way as before: Lisbon Treaty anyone?
Make that “same way”…
Common what? It’ll be an historical curio, like the groat, bushel, hundredweight and pound once Lisbon and Corpus juris bed themselves into our lives.
But Brown is completely bonkers, having been assisted so often by Balls. Now he can only talk balls.
What we need is a new government with a brief of looking at the constitution properly. Brown and Bliar have installed more members of the House of Lords than Charles II – the king they used to deride for his patronage. In Bliar’s brave new world, patronage has been the reward for many of his friends. In Broon’s world, only the rich and famous are eligible. Twenty members of the House of Lords in his cabinet, isn’t it? And none can be voted out, none have been voted in. Just like Broon himself.
Labour has turned us into a banana republic – and we don’t even have the benefit of bananas.
The third world awaits us, that is if we are not already there.
The remedy is, it is too late to remedy the country, so if you have any talent, EMIGRATE and do it now before they have to slap exchange controls on us again.
The Third world has some of the fastest economic growth rates and are creating more millionaires than the US and Europe put together. Their graduates are propping up our Health Service. Their IT and Maths experts are running our systems.
More not less please…..
Yes, but those you refer to are soon to become the first world if they are not already there. The point is that we have become a bankrupt country, with debt big enough to fight the second world war again. We have sunk into insolvency and will soon have our debt downgraded making it difficult or impossible to borrow. And what do we do then? Will the putative next PM (in his own confused mind, that is), Balls be able to sort this mess out, or will he just lie, distort, misrepresent facts as he has always done as we sink further into the mire of destitution?
You ignore the fact that growth is relative. If my salary went from 1p per day to 2p, it would be a staggering 100 per-cent growth. But it would still be pitiful.
I don’t know about the growing number of millionaires in the 3rd World – although the hardworking fishermen-cum-pirates off the coast of Somalia are probably doing pretty well.
PS Thanks for telling me why my 3G mobile Internet connection became so unreliable after the UK contractors who managed it (very competently) were all laid off and the work outsourced to the third world. It’s all those third world experts. Experts at fecking things up, certainly.
Yup, signed the contract this morning. I’m outta here for at least three years.
It pains me to say it, because I was born and raised here and served 16 years in the military here… but the biggest part of me hopes I’ll never come back.
You bastard, Brown. I swear I’ll never forgive you for what you’ve done. You’ll get yours one day.
Please tell us all when you let him have it. We want to watch and enjoy the spectacle.
Please can you leave a forwarding address for when we start taxing expatriates ?
The UK is very good at surviving bad government and will not become a thrid-world country any time soon. The increasing dominance of central government does however make it difficult for other people and organisations to make progess while Westminster is chasing its political tail.
303#
Absolutely fucking not. You can fucking whistle for it.
GB
We already tax expats, plus after 3 months out of country you are no longer allowed to use NHS facilities, makes room for immigrants to fill their boots.
Every cloud has a silver lining.
Global warming will enable us to grow the bananas to go with the politics.
The fact that something is wrong, vindictive, stupid, destructive, partisan, misguided, evil and dangerous has never stopped the Labour Government before, and it won’t now.
Other ways are necessary to restrain the dying convulsions of the Labour Government.
The future of each and every labour MP lies with his or her electorate; not the Government.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the climate’s been cooling for the last 10 years.
A statistically very unlikely thing to happen if you’re expecting large temperature rises.
I was being flippant.
New Scientist.04/07/09 has an interesting article on future sea levels.
There is some evidence from Mexican reefs that sea levels might have risen 3 metres in 100 yrs in the distant past, but it had obviously had nothing to do with man.
The article cites sea levels as having varied from 120 mtrs lower than today,(ice ages), to 70 metres higher than today(much warmer), all without any influence from mankind.
I expected the article to be biased but it tactfully does not address the question as to whether climatic variations are man made.
The conclusion is that sea levels might rise and we should be prepared for it. There is no evidence to suggest that man is responsible for climate variation.
Given tidal variations, waves and wind surge, how do you accurately measure sea levels, remembering that land masses can also rise and fall?
Sorry, I know!
The post was nominally in reply to you, but really intended for others.
you’re an idiot anitcitizen
go soil someone elses blog, there’s a good retard.
Thick Ass Troll,
I think the majority on here would consider you a troll and prefer you foxtrot oscar.
please refer to my previous post.
methinks a banning order will be heading your way very soon.
excellent news, eh readers.
Thick Ass Troll,
I’m sorry, but it was you that was banned. That’s why you post as TaT rather than “thick as thieves”.
Take the hint Guido gave you and feck orf.
weaker and weaker…..
lies are all you have left anticitizen you zitty computer nerd.
oh well.
note to the reader: tat is the daytime version and thick as thieves is the post 7pm unredacted version.
anticitizen better put his tin hat on because thick as thieves is looking forward to this evening’s hunting.
Hunting for the mogadons that Gordon robbed off you?
Mike Jecks said: “Labour has turned us into a banana republic – and we don’t even have the benefit of bananas.”
We are a banana satrapy – most power now resides in Brussels.
Thanks for an excellent Word of the Day. Who says this site is all about spitting vitriol; a virtualised Korean DMZ?
standard - a basis for comparison; a reference point against which other things can be evaluated
Maybe the Police reference point on expenses explains why there will be no prosecutions
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6653377.ece
And not to mention Pravda
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/media/article6653140.ece
“Gordon in Blunderland” – we have a new zeitgeist!
Currently in production starring Gordon Brown as the Queen of Hearts, David Cameron as the King of Hearts, John Bercow as the White Rabbit, Alistair Darling as Bill the Lizard, Peter Mandelson as the Caterpillar, Vince Cable as the Cheshire Cat, David Milliband as the Duchess and the people of Britain as Alice.
Also starring the House of Lords, the only wisp of sanity in the whole show.
o/t … Apparently a billion kiddie fiddler sons-of-bitches apologists will be tuning in to see some bastard being remembered later today.
It’s all about the money, far more important than morals, it is the American way, praise the lord and pass the ammunition
American way? And here is me thinking that Sky News is British. Haven’t been able to watch it for a week.
So desperate in fact, that I’ve actually tuned to BBC on two occasions.
Fecking bored to death with Michael Jackson fans showing just how stupid they are. What about his victims? I’m feeling sick that I didn’t get a ticket or two to sell on E-bay for a bloody fortune.
Erm I think you confuse Hollyweird way with American way. The Commifornian and Democrap elites are always eternally loyal to one of their own.
If you imagine that the elugies for “Saint” Jackson the pervert of pop, are just an American thing, look at our own fawning MSM and Pravda on Thames, for some truly nausiating hypocrisy today as well.
Ah,
A Serj Tankian fan as well…!
I like Serj’s work with Buckethead
Totally O/T, but I hear that Michael Jackson is dead!
Not dead…..just sleeping.
Have you seen the Matt cartoon in the Torygraph today. Priceless.
Anyone see that video of his ghost in Neverland? Filmed they said by a bona fide film crew who didn’t discover it until they took the film back to their studio. Have to admit it did look a bit like michael doing a moon dance.
will you do a moon dance for me nell?
As the March Hare pointed out:
“There’s only one way to stop a Mad Watch. “
Damn fookin right
A horrible Disney perversion of a fine book. Yeuch.
Apologies Lewis Caroll wouldnt answer my enquiries via Ouija board as to what version of the mad watch scene he would like me to post.
Huhne
Of course, Gordon might already have pre-empted this, which will further delay the bill getting through parliament. I’d have thought this is just what they all wanted, as they can now spend the remainder of their time in office fleecing the taxpayer even more.
Bang on our Money!
It’s all pretty obvious why the ‘Grunters’ want it fast tracked. They need the huge pay and allowance increase that will result NOW. They have bills to pay, and have got used to using tax payers money,(which has now dried up because they have been found out) to pay for luxuries rather than their own. They don’t really want a full enquiry and considered judgements into their troughing.
It follows that any increase in their salary (which is advocated), will mean an increase in their pension which a lot of them will be drawing when they don’t get re-elected.
All the more reason why the Lords should act in the best interests of the country and bat this bill back to the Commons for proper consideration.
Absolutely, Engineer.
‘Fast tracked’ and then everyone goes AWOL until the autumn!
If the flawed second chamber that we have does its best and hits it back to them over the net at least there will be a chance for those back benchers with a conscience and without piggy noses to have another bash at it.
“Parliamentary standards”,indeed.
In the Mother of all Parliaments,do we have here the mother of all oxymorons?
Climate Change Officer
bedford borough council. bedford. £30,546 – £33,328 pa + Essential Car User Allowance.
http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/job/883376/climate-change-officer?RSSSearch=0&gusrc=gu_jobs_box_UK%20news&link=UK%20news_jbx_vac
Another non-job. Gordon Brown’s.
It’ll be a feather in his or her cap if he or she can change the climate!
Is there something odd about a climate change officer receiving a car allowance?
Only if you believe the pack of lies that surrounds the global warming hoax.
How about a bike
Climate change….AND essential car user? Couldn’t make it up, could ya?
Objection. Discriminates against nor drivers.
PT – the successful applicant will need to drive all around Bedford making sure no-one else uses a car (other than authorised Party, I mean Council, Officials of course – who will then have nice empty roads to cruise around on).
don’t talk about fucking councils. I mean someone I know has given notice of leaving her flat right. She’s disabled and gets benefits. Her council have accepted she’s leaving on set date but charged her £600 for excess council tax, whatever that is, commencing the day after she leaves. What’s that all about then??? They shoud all be sacked for wasting time and causing stress.
some animals are more equal than others
Exactly so. That ‘essential’ status guarantees the driver fuel during shortages or strikes or blockades. Like the police, ambulance service, fire service etc etc.
Surely that should be “+ essential bike user allowance”?
A bike fitted with a windmill, of course.
or even shoe allowance.
Fucking Hell.
So how is the Bedford borough council climate change Officer going to stop a natural phenomenum?
And if they really believe the good citizens of Bedford are responsible for the weather by the way they behave. Shouldn’t there climate change officer get an essential user pushbike allowance rather than a car allowance?
I hope that he is not successful enough to change the climate around my way. Can I sue if his efforts affect climate beyond perimeter of Bedford?
Well, it’s been a bit hot in London this past week – obviously not doing the job properly.
This is not unlike Greenwich a few years ago, when they declared their borough a ‘Nuclear-Free Zone”. It’s not as though our enemies will programme their missiles to avoid the wretched place! It was just another example of stupid and expensive political posturing by someone who should have been found better things to do with OUR time.
Ironically, there was a small Naval research reactor in Greenwich for many years. It was decommissioned and removed some years ago, before the site it was located in was sold.
Since every atom has a nucleus it was always an ambitious project.
I visited the reactor at Greenwich 20 odd years ago when it was still in operation. The lead ‘pile’ was so small it looked like, well, a jumble of lead blocks and you could climb on top of it (we did); the security so tight that my dad’s WWII watch with luminous paint on the hands and dial) set off the alarms ….
Some years ago, Manchester also declared itself a Nuclear Free Zone. Whilst driving along, I would ask Mrs Prole, “Has anybody told the Russians?”.
If he/she/it can get the rain to stop in Bedford then it might be money well spent.
Perhaps Bedford councillors ( conservative controlled ) should be asked why they need this position ? Aren’t they meant to be the front line on value for money ?
Why am I not surprised that the council is Conservative, when the leader of the national Conservatives has a bloody windmill on his chimney and poses for photos in the arctic hugging huskies?
Did you see the Private Eye photo cartoon? CMD was photoed on a husky sled and from memory:
CMD: “Mush”
Husky: “And that’s his policies too”
Budgie
We’re so fucked. We need a Churchill and we’ve got another AlGor.
what are you going on about you cripple.
you are not even English.
keep your nose out of other peoples business you shit stirring warmonger.
thanks.
tat you are not suitable for this site, you should fuck off to labourlist or beenpee or ku klux klan or some other bunch of thicko extremists where your puerile tantrums would be in good company.
if you do not like it here dave then you should leave.
please present your receipt at reception to receive a full refund.
goodbye.
what a tit!
Good to see that Bedford is thinking big. At least the Climate Change in Bedford will be actively managed , and not just left to its own devices. Will Bedford be a degree or two cooler than Luton do you think?
Bound to be.
Cranfield is just up the road and some of the greatest brains in the shite technology arena are based there.
Given Luton has both a car plant and an airport I should think the temperature difference will be at least 15 degrees. This means that pensioners in Bedford should be able to retire to Luton for the winter where it is warmer instead of buying properties in Spain.
It must be warmer in Luton. That’s why so many people from Pakistan are attracted to the place.
Retire to Luton? Jesus, how bad would that be?
Luton has its own micro-climate due to the Chilterns and Bedford is usually drier and warmer.
The climate’s officer’s job will not be to do anything about the climate, it will be to interfere in the lives of the local populace.
As someone else said, the Greens are really Melons – green on the surface but their main body is entirely red and seedy.
Just like nuclear free Brent, remember?
Bedford will never be cool, my dear. It’s not fashionable.
Climate Change?
Innumerate geographers, unemployable for generations beyond fucking about with AutoCad in council offices, have finally found a whole new niche for themselves.
I’m just old enough to remember when climate change was invented. Around 1987 if I recall. Computers were just coming in and GIS was making its way into geography departments. They were getting satellite pictures and previously mathematical numbnuts started to get computer time and you had the perfect opportunity for idiocy to root. And root it did.
Global Warming is a fucking cult with Al Gore as its prophet.
This is how Islam started. One powerful man ramming shit down people’s throat and everybody either too frightened or too polite to object.
Or too stupid. Forgot ‘too stupid’.
You should be blogging
al gore is an idiot.
as are you.
Sadly it is fast becoming a case of TOO FRIGHTENED to object. In last weeks question time no one objected when those who base thier scepticism of man made global warming on sound science were labeled as weirdos. It will not be long before those who object are put on the ducking stool or burnt.
Last week at PMQ’s global warming skeptics were once again lumped in with Nazi sympathizers. Gordon Brown did nothing to correct this disgusting juxtaposition.
If anyone has ever looked at the 15 day AccuWeather forecast you will know they rarely predicted the correct weather more than 7 days out, yet we are led to believe Al Gore knows what the weather will be like in Manhattan in 2050. It is absurd.
We will soon have a law banning “Global Warming Denying” and further legislation making “Incitement to emit carbon” a criminal offence.
I live in the southern hemisphere and have seen no climate change. I also live on the shore and have not seen any change whatever in the sea level. It has to be changing, since it always has done, but any change is infintisimily slow.
I would think about applying for that job in Bedford, were Bedford not so perishingly cold.
We have now entered the ‘(publicly-funded) academics know best’ era;
Remember Y2K computer virus, a couple of foot & mouth crises, piss-poor swine-flu – which can’t knock over anyone who breathes by themselves it seems (….. but it might mutate!!!!!…, yeah so might measles, mate).
It is all about funding. The moolah is the message.
Our effect on global warming is tiny, the earth’s climate wanders up and down to it’s own rhythm. No politician is taking it remotely seriously, otherwise we would have saved the rainforest, raised coal/oil prices through the roof, and cancelled nuclear power. (You think IT is clean?)
Conventional media too lazy to study it properly.
okay ……….will try to be more light-hearted next time ……….
Climate change is a natural phenomena that has been going on for millions of years and it will still be going on long after we have gone.
I wish some of the ‘climate change is caused by man’ brigade would get Ian Plimer’s book on global warming, and read it and isten to real scientists for once.
All this latest cult for climate change policies and programmes to combat CO2 emissions is just another excuse to create overpaid jobs and throw more £billions down the drain.
Whilst I agree that this is a non job, climate job is happening. The effects are being seen dramatically in the Southern Hemisphere. It is actully basic chemistry that shows what is happening. I hve to disagree with you all that it is not happening. Nonetheless I do agree with the mjority of opinions on this blog.
What are the dramatic effects that are being seen in the Southern Hemisphere?
The Antarctic is not melting. Droughts, heatwaves and bush fires have been happening in Australia since the beginning of time. They are worse now because Labor governments won’t build more dams for more people- they would rather see good rain water run off into the sea – and environmentalist refuse to allow fire breaks to be cleared around houses. If you live in one of the hottest and driest place on earth don’t be surprised when you get temperature extremes. It’s not man made global warming.
Carbon Credits Trading……….
It would be surprising if manmade carbon dioxide had no effect on climate, but climate is so poorly understood and computer models so useless when they cannot be tested that we do not have any clue as to what effect it might be. The evidence so far suggests that it has a negligible effect, as temperature changes show very little positive correlation with CO2 levels and the predicitons made by CO2-based models have been falsified.
Since fossil fuels are going to run out, we have a very good reason for finding other sources of energy, fast. If we don’t, we will all starve, if we don’t freeze first. So: bollocks to the polar bears, let’s think about ourselves. Let’s do practical things that work, such as building nuclear power stations, rather than fannying about with a lot of useless windmills.
Sorry about the rant.
Climate change models are fucking bullshit. They simply get all the historical data they can, toss out any readings that they don’t like on whatever spurious pretext, and then declare that the data ‘proves’ man-made global warming.
Then they reverse engineer a whole bunch of curves due to this possible contributor and that possible contributor until the sum of all possible cherry-picked contributions matches the temperature curve they have deduced from their cherry-picked historical data and declare that they have a working model.
Then they run their model forward and no matter what ludicrous spasm it takes due to duff boundary conditions, poorly sampled input etc etc they declare that the Antarctic ice pack will melt in about 30 years time and we’ll be under 100m of water.
I worked in Algeria. When I wasn’t busy checking geophone positioning or dynamite arrays I used to wander the fucking sahara, picking up elaborate flint arrow-heads and ostrich shell beads and fragments. Hundreds of them. And so did half the crew. The place is littered with millions upon millions of pieces of evidence that the sahara was supporting plenty of fish and wild-life a mere few thousand years ago. And now it is good for fuck all except dynamiting.
And we’re supposed to believe climate change is all the fault of yanks in their Humvees?
The cult of global warming appeals only to bedwetters and the uneducated.
The problem here with bushfires is caused by the Greenies who won’t allow burn-off.
jgm,
Climate change was around earlier than you say, and definitely in the 1960s, when I was at school.
Except then they were warning of a coming ice-age. By the Year 2000, we were told, Great Britain would be covered in ice and we’d all be freezing to death or already dead unless we eat lots of spam. The ‘experts’ told us all this, so they were bound to be right, weren’t they?
I thought it was meat – hence the CJD outbreaks in the early 90′s.
Government always open their mouth before putting their brains into gear.
Give the boy an A for intelligence.
Yes.I was a schoolboy in the late 60s/early 70s and I remember the ice age scare.Then came 1975 and 1976,the two hottest summers and it was forgotten.As world temperatures seem to be on a gentle decline again,I’ve no idea who’s right ,except that the greens seem to treat anyone with a contrary view as evil and I resent that mindset.
Bergen,
Both too Hot and Cold “Climate Change” seem to have the same “cure” i.e. more tax and regulation.
Things like that make me just a little suspicious.
Avogadro – don’t forget that apparently we were all going to run out of Nickel by 1970 among things as well…!
“among OTHER things”! Sorry…
I remember that well. We were all quite frightened.
Yeah, and ‘the oil will run out by 1999′ school of paranoia were very busy as well …
I started work in the early 50′s in a very intensive-using oil works and my early job was plotting oil prices and reserves etc.
Ever since then I have observed that for sure oil and everything else will run out in about 25 years time.
They are still saying the same today, 60 years on.
Barry, I thought that was because they only BOTHERED to forecast 25 years ahead, and our fantastic* MSM decided that meant no forecast = no oil.
*Sarcasm
stick with your computers geek.
you know nothing about politics.
what a cripple!
Thick Ass Troll,
I’m obviously getting to you. Thanks for letting me be aware of your great frustration, it really cheers me up.
good one, that is the best laugh I’ve had in ages.
really funny.
thanks for the chuckle.
you sp@stic.
The AGW CO2 hoax in fact kicked off 1974, when Margaret Mead in her capacity as President of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, floated the idea at an official meeting to her fawning admirers. Mead had made her name by documenting apparently exotic sexual practises of some south sea islanders, thereby giving spurious legitimacy to the quack sexual theory of Freud. Mead was later demonstrated as an acadamic fraud, her information being merely the fantasies of adolescent girls, but in 1974 her reputation enabled her to drive the AAAS into drivel mode. Serious academics in the AAAS at the time explicitly discussed the selective use of scientific evidence to promote the thesis, and this is documented in the published proceedings of the AAAS.
It continues. Chief scientific advisor to Santa Obama is John Holdren, also a former AAAS president 2006-7, and an AGW hoaxer.
Actually a hell of a lot earlier.
As a student I remember attending the 1971 UN Conference on the Human Environment in Stockholm where everyone was so excercised about climate change that the fleet of white ecobikes available to all UN delegates and quangocrats was left virginally untouched in favour of gasguzzling Volvo limos, so no change there then.
Nah – climate change was invented in the 70′s, only then we were all told there the danger was clobal cooling.
This is your chance to shape the Council’s response to climate change. Using your expert knowledge of sustainability and climate change issues and environmental science qualification at graduate level or equivalent experience, you will lead the development of our Climate Change Strategy and co-ordinate and calculate environment-related national indicators.
So what is a climate change strategy and what are environment related national indicator.
Temperature.
Rainfall
Hours of sunlight.
Job done.
IT’S TOO LATE!!!! THE GREEN NAZZIS ARE HERE ALREADY!
We’re, well businesses anyway, dooooomed!
Sir Humphrey Appleby has been proved right once more. The Great Lump of Misery has adopted the politician’s syllogism in response to the troughing scandal: “We must do something. This is something. Therefore we must do this.”
They can never get anything right and never have done. We have a corrupt and incompetent government led by a nonentity whose lust for power over others drove him to the top, but he lacks any trace of morality. Power, power, power is all he seeks. He has no clue what to do with it once he has it. Labour is no good, it never was any good — just look at its record since it came into existence – and it never will be any good. Brown’s sole service to this country is to put the Labour Party, both new and old, out of its misery so that we will never again see it in office. And good riddance to it.
4 more years ( or maybe even 7 )
The current administration have never understood the constitution, and have seemed determined – probably more through ignorance than malice – to trash large chunks of it.
It’s taken the best part of 800 years of evolution since Magna Carta for the constitution to evolve, and for the most part, it works pretty well. Changes and ongoing tweeks are constantly required to reflect the changes to Britain and the wider world, but they must be properly thought through.
This Bill is mainly political grandstanding, and if passed int law, it’s flaws will, I suspect, become apparent quite quickly, necessitating another round of legislative ammendment.
It is good to see the Lords doing what they are there for – scrutinising and ammending legislation to ensure that it does what it is supposed to properly. Some parts of our constitution, it seems, still work.
‘..have seemed determined – probably more through ignorance than malice – to trash large chunks of it.’
Me thinks it’s time to stop giving these arseholes the benefit of the doubt. EVERYTHING ZaNu Labour do is thought through, rubber stamped and sold as top quality lamb when everything they sell is meat off the bones.
There are some in the Liebore party with a malignant streak (Brown, Balls, McBride etc.) and some who do not hide their overweening personal ambition or willingness to smear others (Mandelslime) but the vast majority of Liebore MPs are lobby fodder, with no apparent principles other than vague notions of ‘fairness for hard-working families’ and similar rather meaningless mantras. Crediting these people with wisdom, intelligence and historical understanding of the constitution is pushing it a bit. Remember Bliar’s attempt to abolish the Lord Chancellor by press release, only to discover too late that constitutionally, he couldn’t?
I still think that most of the consistutional changes have been pushed through more by ignorance than by genuine malice.
garbage.
it has been an american led programme to destabilise the British Constitution.
Do all Americans come from Scotland, then?
you are not intelligent enough to join in budgie.
everything the new labour project has done from war and occupation to ID cards to underwriting america’s subprime debts to diminishing the rights of British citizens to buying nuclear weapons etc etc has in some way benefited the americans position.
therefore tony blair and gordon brown are agents of american interests.
try to keep up retard.
It started in America…who knew? t(w)at you should invest in a tin foil hat. Helps keep those evil Zionist mind rays at bay.
lots of retards on the prowl tonight.
the americans are perfectly happy with us being in the EU.
united states, united nations, united europe, you get the picture.
and so we are being raped by both the americans and europe.
enough raping and pillaging.
our former empire has been used against us to neuter our status globally for the advantage of america and europe a double pincer movement.
if we have historically had global trade links then why the fuck do we need to be politically connected to the EU?
and if we have ruled the world then why are we now fighting other empires dirty wars.
fuck europe and fuck america.
’tis time we hanged a few traitors and started reclaiming our place in the world as an independent, united kingdom.
the world is ours for the taking.
no violence this time though, only language, culture, history, trade, diplomacy and friendship.
time to start punching our weight again without being held back and sold out by c’unts like gordon brown and peter mandelson.
they should be hanged for their treachery.
but first things first.
if the lisbon treaty is ratified without the approval of the British Public then all loyal British men will be obliged to take up arms to enforce the Supremacy of the British Parliament.
that is the red line.
the ratification of the lisbon treaty will a declaration of war on the British People by the political class.
if we promptly hang a couple of the traitors who are forcing this unconstitutional treaty through the rest of the chickenshit motherfuckers will immediately drop the idea.
who is for?
“we are being raped by both the americans and europe”
In your dreams lefty fudge packer.
you sound like a paedophile melon farmer.
How many more lessons do they have to learn?! It’s NEWLABOUR, not LABOUR.
Newlabour was invented by Mandleson, blair and co., Labour was subsumed, and finished forever by them. They took power at a time of great change, and because they had a good majority they ran amok. Blair and co. had next to no experience in running a government, and throwing money at the NHS, education etc, was about the only thing they were capable of doing. The money was badly spent, and over paid hangers on reaped the benefit. We suffer the whirl wind now. It wasn’t globalism that started it, and it wasn’t the USA. It was the incompetence, the greed, the deceit, and the grotesque amateurism of NEWLABOUR that did it!
….But they are consistent !
What a joke this country is. How can we get anything fair and just from a party that lies, subverts and spins? it’s like garbage in Garbage out.
Just look at their scottish political activities.
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/politics/SNP-angry-at-Tory-leader39s.5411995.jp?CommentPage=1&CommentPageLength=1000#4174323
I really recommend reading the comments that go with this article.
What a poisonous and disgusting country Scotland has become.
Yes, that’s right. Labour perceives only its own preconceived notions that are years out of date. There are too many people in this country and we have to stop millions more coming here in the expectation that the streets are paved with, if not gold, then ample benefits that are there for the taking. Visit your local post office on a Monday morning and watch the queues of women, complete with children and wearing their headscarves, scarcely able to speak English to the Asian counter staff, but with their benefit books in their hands. And see just how much money the receive, probably child tax credits, for their ever increasing broods. Labour has created, or tried to create, a rotten borough. Who will the benefit recipients vote for? Inevitably, the party that allowed them into the land of milk and honey. There are already too many peopl here and we cannot support those we have.
Approximately 50% too many actually !
Don’t you mean a pocket-borough?
Same criminal intention though.
No, I meant a rotten borough, not a pocket one. I know what I meant and that is what I wrote.
It’s the grey squirrel – red squirrel problem. Human beings are merely animals.
Not forgetting of course Brown also giving the French money to enforce their OWN laws to stop “illegals”crossing the Channel to UK
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1197875/French-use-British-people-finding-technology-scan-illegal-immigrants-trying-cross-Channel.html
So if any illegals are found to have got here through French borders, we then have every right to send them back!
I wonder how much money the gorgon has promised to give France to keep the immigrants out of Britain until the next election?
……at France’s expense, of course.
They wouldn’t ever have got anywhere near Calais if McRuin and his criminal gang had not opened the door wide and put out a welcome mat covered in large pound notes in the name of diversity and M*slim votes. The French know well how to deal with the scroungers first plane back to bogobogoland and file your appeal from there.
Everything Brown touches turns to shine’ola. No surprise that his reforms are worthless. Oh and while I’m here , Master Baiter you are the same. No comment you have ever made on this blog has informed or entertained. No go back to your cave till I call you for your food….
The Faecal Touch
***CLAPS***
Thanks for the namecheck.
the name tells us everything we need to , does it not
Oh fuck, you’ve woken the little shit eater up.
The Penguin
Excellent
Very funny Mr Oaten
“hasty manner” and “negligible public consultation”; why the surprise these have been the hallmarks of this vile Labour government since 1997.
They don’t want to involve us. They know they’d be very much worse off if they did that. This way, they can still have their cake and eat it.
Public consultation is one of the hallmarks of this spin-sick administration. At great expense hey've had public consultation on post office closures, there's a "consultation" period when staff are laid off, they have public consultation on school and hospital closures, they've consulted about ID cards, smoking bans, windfarms, crime levels, you name it. Then then either make up the results or just take the results of the consultation and stuff them in the round file and do what they bloody well wanted to do anyway. Just another example of the Orwellian use of language of these nonentities – "to consult is to disregard".
Deeeeeeeeeacon Deeeeeeeeeeeeacon Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeacon
Is Brown bonkers!!!
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601170&sid=aptnrMueIerQ
Better get my Dollars now then.
Labour wishful thinking.
Quote from article.
Meghnad Desai, emeritus professor at the London School of Economics and a Labour member of the House of Lords, says the situation is far less perilous this time (than when Labour previously cocked it up), because many other countries have heavy debts and face similar recessions.
That means that there is an awful lot of debt to be sold, and market forces will push up interest rates.
Suppose we have to pay 8% to borrow money; where does that leave public finances?
Gordon Brown saves the world .. I mean Banks…
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sir_joeking_pb/3696740395/
Along with that other leftie Obuma who’s cosying up to Pukin as we speak.
What’s that you’re trying to say Anon?
“Gordon Banks saves the world”? Well, he certainly helped in 1966.
This Parliament does not have the trust, authority or the democratic mandate from the British people to clean up politics in Westminster.
It is akin to asking criminals to fix the Justice system.
Don’t you know they already do. They are a bunch of crooks, the lot of them.
Unfortunately in the murky waters of Westminster – a slight from one house to the other can only be met with ridicule. They are ALL as bad as each other – they all live in Wonderland and they are all as mad as hatters.
Cheap shots from one house to another – its a FLIPPING disgrace. They still don’t get it.
On this hasty and wrong-headed legislation, why doesn’t it set higher standards for MP’s than the rest of us have to live up to? As I understand it, the maximum imprisonment for fiddling your expenses under this Bill is 1 year, but the “normal” Theft and Fraud Acts allow up to 12 years. I suggest MP’s get a minimum of 5years and a max of 15 years – just to show us they take the matter seriously.
Also, the new independent scrutiny body is an establishment stitch-up, of no worth at all. No-one should believe it will serve any useful purpose, other than as cover for MPs nefarious activities. Brown’s idea of accountability and “Tranz-parentcy” is a joke that we don’t have to take any more.
Can you believe that Michael Martin is headed for the Lords with another skip-full of dodgy allowances to supplement his gold-plated Speaker’s pension. Perhaps the first section of the Bill should be directed at stopping that bit of offensive double-dipping?
One year being 6 months in GB of course, and less the time off for the remand period will mean they’ll be let out as soon as they’re found guilty. Let off to go and dig up the suitcase of cash from their impeccably taxpayer-manicured garden, and head off for a pleasant retirement.
Dont be so cynical, Lord Ahmed of 10,000 muslims, served at least 14 days if I recall, for some minor offence or other. It is attitudes like yours that bring politics into disrepute.
Politics is already in disrepute. MP’s have seen to that.
Texting while driving on a motorway is not a minor offence. It’s reckless endangerment.
311 – didn’t stop the m*slim army’s lord in-chief getting off early from his ludicrously light sentence… one sharia law for them and insulting shite for us.
Exactly my point – a pitiful sentence even before early release for being…a member of some privileged minority or other.
Be fair to the poor man. He needs the extra money to buy a replacement palace in Scotland.
its 1 year cause any longer and their seat would become vacant – note there is no automatic deselction/bye-election clause
Blair, Brown and New Labour’s legacy will be the destruction of the UK as important to the world.
Obama doesn’t care about the “special relationship” because we don’t produce anything the US needs, they don’t owe us a vast amount of money and they end up supplying our troops when we “lapdog” their conflicts.
UK external Debt is £6 trillion ( see http://www.statistics.gov.uk/imf/) so the world is very concerned about our ability to meet our liabilities. With Brown and Darling happy to hand over more control of London’s financial market to Brussels, the greatest tax earning industry is about to be destroyed forever.
Not that I think that the Tories will be able to do much about it, but do we really think that Brown, Balls and Mandelson are the best people to fix the mess THEY have made.
The only thing we can do is USE OUR VOTE (for whoever you think is best) and hopefully as soon is possible.
BUT, be under no illusion, like an ageing dowager, the UK will not return to the global position we enjoyed in the 20th century and any government will have to adapt to “a new normal”.
Parliamentary reform will need to change many things including responsible government. The UK can only spend what we can afford. That means creating a fair benefits system and controls on immigration as a blantantly unfair tax system will se the best talent leave forever.
NOT AN EASY TASK – especially as the current “get something for nothing” beneficiaries will not vote for a party that will cut their entitlements.
Deprive them of the Franchise then. They don’t give a stuff anyway, most of them.
The key paragraph of the Lords Report is No. 18 :
‘Baroness Royall told us “Fast tracking is necessary because there is an urgent public demand to see something done about the system for regulating MPs’ expenses”. She said “If the legislation were not passed until the autumn, that would lose three months during which the public would continue to wonder what MPs were doing to answer their concerns”. It appears that the key driver for the bill is public perception, rather than any specific policy outcome. Nevertheless, in answer to our question as to what public consultation there had been about the policy contained in the bill, Baroness Royall responded that “The policy proposal directly affects only MPs and the staff of the House”. She did not allude to any external public consultation, nor admit the case for it. This strikes us as an worryingly narrow view of a bill designed to rebuild public confidence in the way Parliament operates.’
Why key ? Because it sums up the patronising attitude and approach of this regime to us, the “governed” – they know best, and we are not even entitled to have an opinion.
Thank goodness their Lordships have finally recognised that !
U.K. Factory (Tractor) Production Drops for First Time in Three Months
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aOOz7HGgVah0
Comrade Brown will not be pleased and of course he will deny it anyway.
Talk about re-writing history.
On the BBC news this morning, it was remarked on about the strong leadership shown in London by mayor Livinstone and others in authority on 7th of the 7th 2005.
On 7/7/2005
Mayor Livingstone was in Singapore, probably either hungover or still pissed from celebrating London winning its bid for the 2012 Olympics.
Prime Minister Blair was at Gleneagles Scotland meeting the G8.
The Security forces and most of the MET were in Scotland guarding the G8 meeting.
There was hardly asnyone of authority left in town that fateful day. Which probably explains why it was handled so well.
Can this really be a surprise? Politicians really don’t give a damn and I thought it was obvious. Apparently, it has still not sunk in. And there’s people here calling for an election. The surprise is how such people can maintain faith in a system that is rotten to the core. Only significant constitutional change–very significant change–will save things now. And most people in Britain lack the capacity to conceive of such changes, let alone the ability to see their very necessity.
WE want popular referendums. Anyone should be free to start a petition on any subject, worded as he chooses, and if say at least a million signatories are gained then there must be a national referendum which would be binding on parliament.
The Referendum party should be restarted for this: be elected, pass the Referendum Enabling bill then call a new election.
Ordinary party politicians cannot be trusted to govern us properly any more.
Fine if there’s a system in place that allows for that many signatures.
The one against pay-per-mile road tolls reached 1.8 million, I think, but the present no. 10 system gives the impression that it’s been doctored to limit the numbers.
We need a petitions system that’s free from political interference.
The petition system I envisage would be completely outside the current political set up. It would be carried out by private citizens working together.
Today’s YELLOW JERSEY for you ANON!
Isn’t it Fields’ budget filibuster or whatever today?
Yes over the 10p tax (Finance Bill) – Fields and about 30 Labour MP’s are joining Lib Dems and Conservatives to vote against it –
Hopefully it will be another vote of no confidence in gordon’s leadership.
Thanks nell. It’s the right thing to do, to keep him constantly stressed.
no trough mixture, it is the right thing to do because low earners should not pay any tax at all but gordon, in one fell swoop, doubled their tax liability.
honestly trough, you and your tory troll scum friends are as bad as gordon.
always trying to take party political advantage out of issues.
just the bloody same as gordon.
imbecile.
Tat.
I have, in half a century, never voted conservative.
Intuitive cnut as well as ignorant aintcha?
Now be a good little homunculus and fuck off before I fell you with a track pin.
oh don’t start crying troughie.
toughen up softie.
quick, jelly and icecream for trough mixture!
hurry up ffs she is about to bawl her eyes out.
Too late for you TaT me lad. We have your coordinates and Bollo is currently underway with instructions to hoover up his PCP 10 minutes before arrival and bury you in a pit of lye like stinking Norwegian Lotefisk. May the Gord have moicy on your arse’ole.
Unfortunately it sounds as if the opposition to the gorgon’s bill have been bought off.
What gives Parliament a bad name are the debates on the floor of the House of Commons that all have the same characteristics.
Shit legislation brought forward by the government.
The green benches empty apart from those who speak against it.
Limited time to debate.
All day MPs make speeches pointing out how crap a bill is, and despite this hundreds and hundreds turn up to vote for the government without the conviction to say why they are doing so on the floor of the house.
An excellent summary of the problem, Chronic.
None of the Government MPs listen to the debate before they vote.
Ar’ hav’ nae fears tha’ arl’ wi’ be arlritty!
Premier Mandulshit sa’s sae
An’ nuthin’s ma fult ye un’stan!
“It is ironic that provisions designed to restore public confidence in aspects of the operation of Parliament have emerged from behind closed doors without
providing an opportunity for adequate public engagement before the policy is
crystallised into a bill introduced to Parliament. This is no way in which to
legislate on matters which raise complex constitutional and legal
issues.”
Quite!
This latest episode, showed from the beginning his lack of intellect. For a man with a PhD, Broon is really stupid. After producing bad hasty law time and time again, he gets it into his brain, or what constitutes for one, that this must be done quickly. Any MP who tried fiddling after what has gone on must be mad, so they will not be doing it. Why the rush, because MAD Gordon has said it must. That song ‘Gordon is a Moron’ by Jilted John must be resurrected.
A PhD doesn’t give anyone common sense. In Brown’s case it’s been proved.
Guido and the commentators on this site….get a band together….do a cover…and see it get to number one. You can do it …I am sure!
Brown’s Phd thesis was a report into something really useful like the inner workings of the Scottish Labour Party – may be Edinburgh University should re-open the marking of that one and just check it was worthy of being passed in their name.
Brown is not clever, except in his own eyes and those of the lightweight bullies around him, who apparently don’t know he’s just being thick when he pronounces all those words incorrectly, and even says things like “Today I am announcing an investment [sic] of One Bullions in climate chnage enforcement co-ordination task-force tsars”.
We need to be rescued before he destroys this country for good.
I’ve said it here before – those few of us who have read Gordon’t thesis regard it as meretricious. It was passed because the key examiners were labour party apparatchiks who had been briefed to pass him.
re Gordon is a Moron,
resurrected song on festival tour as we blog, Hobo Jones and the Junk Yard Dogs
Larmer tree last year
A guy from Norfolk has died on a cruise ship which was docking at……wait for it…InverGORDON!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/8137550.stm
A cruise that started in America.
I believe I am the right cruiser for the job and I’m getting on with cruising etc etc etc ad infinitum…
Nice Tintin reference.
If I was Sarah, I’d make sure all my premiums were paid.
Then Faecal Touch
It’s a badly drafted Bill which was rushed through the Commons in two days leaving great swathes of it, which have far reaching constitutional implications, undebated.
Of course Labour has become notorious for its endless torrent of bad legislation because of its obsession with being seen to do something about everything.
It never seemed to grasp the principle ‘if it aint broke don’t mend it.’
Except in the national finances – where we’re broke and they have no intention of mending if
Well we all know The Prime Mentalist has totally lost the plot. I do wonder who he has advising him, if is not just him who has lost the plot, I think his entire advisor group has lost the plot and should be put in straight jackets and placed in a mental hospital.
Mandleson, if he hasn’t already given up in despair, shaun woodward if he hasn’t been ousted already, (he has a previous conviction for treachery), N Brown, the turd, a close friend of the gorgon, and others less important unknown. All jostling for their own power.
Current head of the Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC) is unconcious and his name is Alex Allen, a Grateful Dead fan ie a ‘Dead Head’, how ironic. He was also the High Commissioner to Australia, once.
Lord Goodlad chairman of the Lords constitution committee responsible for the quote in the post was the High Commissioner to Australia, once.
Lionel Barder of LabourList come clean on cuts fame was the High Commissioner to Australia, once.
They’re all in the same snake pit together.
It won’t save them, trust has broken down, they’ll bite each other, which is maybe why one is unconcious.
It was the Four X that dunnit….
More money for foreigners whilst our own suffer.
How many billions is it this week that McStalin has chucked out in order to be popular in some foreign places?
A mere fraction of wh DFIDs budget would have ensured that no British soldier went to war with inferior kit & no body armour.
Every time McStalin gives away taxpayers money to foreigners the unmentionables get a boost in support.
And what makes the shame of DFID worse is that the New Tories are matching the spending.
Ah, I see that ignorant and shameless xenophobia lives on. Get back under your stone.
Can you explain why Brown gave over £800 million of our money to India last year? You know, India with the space programme, nuclear weapons, that sort of thing.
Er, if you need that explaining then you really are in trouble.
Er, if you cannot explain it, then why not be honest for a change and admit it? Or are you Ed Ballsup and I should be claiming my 5 pounds?
Mr Anon, don’t be shy and stop being arrogant. Explain yourself, why is bankrupt old UK giving £800,000,000 spondoolies to the Indians. Their economy is due to outgrow ours pretty soon, they have developed their own bomb, we borrow off the Yanks, they are a proud and independent country, we are Region 12 of the Federal Union of Europe. We are bust, they are not. Explain yourself to us ignorant peasants /pheasants.
That would be the stone on British soil, soil that I put my life on the line to protect so many times as a serving soldier?
You liberal leftists dont get it, & probably do not want to & never will:
The more internationalist you become in your desperation, the more nationalistic the little people become as a counter to your folly.
You are dismissed.
You know nothing of international policy. Nothing, at all, in fact. There’s no need to keep demonstrating it.
er… anon, and your knowledge of international affairs is limited to accusing folks of xenophobia
Anonymong,
You haven’t managed to put forward any argument at all, just insults.
You lose. Goodbye.
Don’t worry Fred – the rest of us are with you (and your mates from 2 Para).
You forgot to mention the several millions of our money that McStalin gave to Honest Bob Mugabe the other week, to help with “transition” whatever that is supposed to mean! No doubt it was a consultancy fee for “election organisational advice”, or something similar…
The xenophobia in the message is patently obvious. No accusation is required: it is before your very eyes.
So wanting to cease transferring extorted money from citizens to give to rich foreign countries and instead wanting genuine charity instead is now xenophobia?
Wow! What colour is the sky on your planet?
you have already exposed yourself as a racist zionist on this thread anticitizen.
and now you are talking about others being racist.
just how stupid do you think the reader is?
they are not as stupid as you.
what a moron.
Well said Fred
No, seriously, I was looking for an explanation rather than some lame smartarsed attempt at humour.
Why do we continue to give large sums of money for poverty relief to India, when that same coountry is spending money hand over fist on space rockets and nuclear weapons?
Poverty in India clearly isn’t a high priority for the Indian government, so why should it be for ours?
Stick with it me old love – too many bleeding hearts round here – and not enough in the right place.
Oh to put Bliar, McStalin and all the scum deep in some G*d forsaken desert
Close DfID down completely and save 9 billion quid: money that gets taken from Britain’s poor and is given by Labour to rich third world dictators. Private charity donations should be sufficient money from this country and is usually better spent.
Anticitizenone (above). “You lose. Goodbye” was among the favourite phrases of one David Brent . . .
Internationlism doesn’t mean give your money to any overseas country that demands it.
lol these lefties don’t get it, when we’re third world and all our old ”friends” don’t return the favour and give us any money to help us, do you think the people starving in the UK are gonna be happy?? they’ll rise up and wipe you’s out.
Where’s are all ”great friends” we give money to at the moment??? buying our gilts to help us out in our time of need??? no! exacatly we’re reduced to printing funny money to buy our own gilts.
The irony about lefties is they read about Lenin and the 1918 revolution and don’t seem to think the same can happen to them one day by extremely pissed off people.
Another total non-argument.
Screaming the words racist and xenophobe and pointing fingers around here won’t intimidate anyone round here, and it increasingly won’t outside.
Your bullying time is up.
your zionist genocide child killing days are up anticitizen.
President Obama will not fund zionist war criminal occupiers anymore.
time to smell the coffee numbnuts.
game over man.
I used to be a Whitehall civil servant before leaving to work in the financial sector, on the grounds that it would be an oasis of moral cleanliness compared to government.
In all my time at Treasury and Cabinet Office I never heard a term as insulting as “constitutionally unorthodox” being used. It translates to ‘treasonous and dictatorial’. Sir Humphery’s ‘enviable moral flexibility’ is comparatively mild.
It sems to me that there is general concensus in Whitehall that the current administration are not quite sound.
In all my time at Treasury and Cabinet Office I never heard a term as insulting as “constitutionally unorthodox” being used. It translates to ‘treasonous and dictatorial’.
Demonstrably, you did not work in translation because your interpretation is as ludicrous as it is laughable. With skills like that you must have done really well in Whitehall.
translation does not equate to interpretation
Dear me. If you think the term “constitutionally unorthodox” is insulting, you really need to start living in the real world. We have to put up with a lot worse than that in every day life.
Thank you for the translation. Yet it would seem there is consensus among your erstwhile colleagues that the next adminstration will not be quite sound either, with the news that some are busy preparing a budget with 20% cuts for the day after the next GE.
A cut in government spending is in reality a bonus for the taxed.
er not if they are still taxed at the same levels.
you don’t half talk some shit anticitizen.
but then you are a zionist child killer so we shouldn’t expect any truth from you.
that would be silly.
Thick Ass Troll
Spending by Borrowing (Gilts) is merely slightly-deferred taxation, with the interest payments it amounts to more than just taxing and spending.
You are 100% wrong as per-usual.
Are you sure? And how many zionist children has Anticitizenone killed? What part of Israel were they killed in? Where are the reports?
The zionist chirldren are armed with Armalites so I’d leave them well alone. The Palestinian brats only have stones and old flip-flops so they’re an easier quarry for the apprentice childmassmurderer to start on.
so following your logic anticitizen if borrowing reduces then so will taxes.
care to give the reader just one example of when that has happened in this country?
er, what a load of shit.
you are full of it!
you are an arsehole.
budgie,
leave the intelligent stuff to the intellectuals.
israeli zionists murder children as the children sit in their classrooms reading their school books.
what a wicked thing for you to make light of eh?
you must be a satanist.
and by making such an obnoxious comment you do know you have doomed yourself to hell. your soul is worthless budgie.
as are you.
tat said: “leave the intelligent stuff to the intellectuals.”
So your definition of an “intellectual” is yourself?
Modest aintcha?
You still have not substantiated your claims about the killers of zionist children.
I’m not just an intellectual budgie, I am a genius.
Sound of mind?
The PM’s leaving card is now circulating so please remember to sign it – and no rude comments. Don’t forget to put something in the collection for the leaving present. By the way, any ideas about what to give him?
syphilis
Bravo!
A moral compass that works.
A flask, some sandwiches and a map of the australian desert.
Revolver and a bottle of scotch
An huge bogey of his very own…….and some incopants.
Thanks for the super suggestions. So far we’ve only got 13p so come on Mr Darling cough up.
Phlem?
A party?
A Labourious Party
Phosgene.
A baseball bat with rusty nails hammered through it. I’ll “present” it to him.
I heard talk they wanted to name a locomotive after him when he leaves. Some wag suggested they could rename The Flying Scotman. Could be done quite cheaply: merely paint out the “F”.
A DVD player that plays Region 1 DVDs
A recording of “The Laughing Policeman” to remind McDebt what we all think of him.
Does anyone take the Prime Mentalist seriously? When walking with Sir Trevor MacDonald at the 7/7 memorial unveiling someone was shielding Sir Trev with an umbrella but the Prime Mentalist and his wife got rained on. Why Sir Trev needed to have someone carrying his umbrella for him when, quite rightly, Prince Charles and Camilla carried their own beggars belief.
Perhaps his hair goes all curly.
What like a …..oh never mind
What, like me?
Right, that’s it! I’m off to see the Director General!
Yes, whether McDonald has someone hold and umbrella or not is an extremely important consideration.
You wouldn’t want him to get wet would you?
all he does is chat wewt anyway
Having an umbrella holder is a legitimate BBC expense.
Wait for me.
hahahahahahah. That’s absolutely wonderful. Have you thought of writing comedy?
No. You think I should?
I am a TWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!
Yup – you said it!
when I get reactions like that I know I am on the right track.
thanks for letting me know I am getting right up your noses.
excellent!
I’ll ask Gordoom to poke you out.
His P45
This is calculation not craziness.
The bunker are placing themselves firmly in the anti-politician corner.
The potential narrative goes something like this..
‘The PM sees the need for reform of Parliament and is pushing the measures through, but they are being blocked under the pretext of scrutiny by the vested interests, mainly Tory, and those that don’t get it, mainly Tory. The PM’s on your side folks, its them pesky politicians that have been lining their own pockets that are the enemy’
This is, of course, total crap, but that doesn’t stop them peddling the line as soon as the first sign of dissent is encountered.
And the fact that its bad governance doesn’t even enter the equation.
Brown and Co will complete the framework of a police state, ready for Dave to enact it. One way ticket somewhere else please
Does anyone except the paid ZaNu Liebore aparatchiks take McDebt seriously anymore?
Sorry, OT – but why is the MSM completely ignoring the large demo that was held in Birmingham at the weekend?
It was a demo against Islamic extremism. I gather there were the usual unpleasant neo-nazi elements, but should the MSM be blocking all news of this kind of protest?
What else are they not telling us?
LOADS.
MSM = Leftwing Censorship.
more to come in the future
the sun, the express, the telegraph, the times, the financial times, the mail, the sunday mail, the sunday telegraph and the sunday express are all right wing publications.
and sky news is right wing too.
left wing msm?
you’re off your head you nutter.
are you retarded or just an arsehole?
You are clearly the arsehole around here.
The elephant you forgot to mention is the BBC. A revolting, unbalanced government propaganda organisation.
The FT is not right wing but you don’t read it so don’t worry.
Sky News is right wing? Err not really t(w)at.
And who reads the Sunday Express?!
Out of that list only the Torygraph and the Mail really are Tory party supporting.
The Sun used to support ZaNu Liebore; the Times sits on the fence; the FT is left and the Express used to be Tory but a very long time ago. The BBC is extreme ZaNu supporting and is trailed by Sky. Don’t forget the extreme left Grauniad and the ZaNu/europhile Independent/Observer.
By being so uncritical of ZaNu Liebore for a decade, the MSM was responsible for lying to and cheating the British electorate. With decent MSM opposition we could have got rid of ZaNu at the last election.
you zionists don’t like the bbc do you?
because they don’t broadcast your lies and propaganda innit.
oh well.
what a dick.
“By being so uncritical of ZaNu Liebore for a decade, the TORY SCUM PARTY was responsible for lying to and cheating the British electorate. With A decent OPPOSITION PARTY we could have got rid of ZaNu at the last election.”
there, that makes more sense now.
happy to help a retard like you budgie.
now crawl back under your rock; you are out of your league sunshine.
What is interesting about the British mainstream media is that the commercial, successful side is centre right.
Hence the Mail, The Sun, Sky TV etc has to fight to exist, and have to appeal to their audience or they are finished.
The BBC has to do neither and so only reflects the Labour elite that run it.
The Guardian Newspaper is in the shit, the Independent is in the shit and is shit and the Mirror is losing readers at a huge rate.
And we all know which blogs get the most visitors.
The left is finished.
Thank god.
Unfortunately the MSM, even the two Tory supporters, were hoodwinked by ZaNu Labour’s lies and spin.
Bliars propaganda machine had the MSM in its grip at a time when decent investigative journalism was desperately needed to expose socialist duplicity and evil.
A bit less complacency by the third estate would have given the electorate the tools to hold ZaNu to account. Their failure was our loss.
Would that be the “protest march” reportedly dispersed by these brave representatives of the Thin Blue Line?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/8135192.stm
Sorry, OT – but why is the MSM completely ignoring the large demo that was held in Birmingham at the weekend?
It was a demo against Islamic extremism. I gather there were the usual unpleasant neo-nazi elements, but should the MSM be blocking all news of this kind of protest?
What else are they not telling us?
Birmingham? where’s that then? did anyone notice?
I was there slinging a few range into the besuited fat blokes at the front.
Left wing violence against elected representatives of the people.
No wonder it was censored.
In most private sector companies employees who incur reimbursable expenses must get their line boss to sign off on their claims. There is often a second check by a Finance or HR department which audits the accounting of the claim and its compliance with corporate policy. Break the rules or abuse the system and you are accountable to the person that employed you.
The problem with MPs is that they are ‘employed’ by their constituency electorate which makes it difficult but not impossible for their expenses to be controlled by their first line employer. Cameron has made a first stab at a workable system in the pledges that his candidate in the Norwich North by-election has made.
These are:
– Timely publication of all personal and office expenses and political donations over £1,000 on the MP’s website.
– Annual published audit by independent professional accountant
– Open unedited documents (receipts, petty cash book, accounts) to local press inspection annually.
– No claiming of tax liabilities, food or furniture.
As an interim measure this sounds workable. The key principles are accountability to the electorate and transparency.
Do we really need a hastily trumped up and politically motivated Parliamentary Standards Bill rushed through Parliament? Maybe it is better to make common sense practical changes in procedures first and let legislation follow with due process.
It won’t be rushed through parliament. It will just keep on going backwards and forwards, until they think it is forgotten.
It’s pretty obvious how this should be dealt with. Each individual constituent – as the MP’s employer – should have to approve their expenses.
A competition for honesty, transparency and economy in MPs expenses, fought between the political parties is just what we want.
Bring it on.
Don’t need any legislation.
will the labour party ever realise Brown is a loose cannon or is it just that a few more months in office – not power – is so important to them? Methinks Cameron should be paying him for all the good work he does for the tories.
Go Gordo – GO!!!
And take all your lying, thieving, twisting scum wiv ya, – yer feckless fucker!
There’s no lying and thieving types in the Conservative Party or the Liberal Party is there?
No
Labour came to power promising to be purer than pure. It turns out that their corruption is institutional and far worse than the incidental moments of sleeze of the previous Conservative government.
Are you the man that did my kitchen tiles. They all come round asking what tyler did this, I said did he but how did you know?
Perhaps. Perhaps not. What could possibly be gained by comparing two disparate but absolutely corrupt regimes?
Anything positive about Labour is dissed into the ground, and anyone who says anything supported gets the same treatment. But, any excuse to talk up or high-five anything positive about their chosen product is seized on like an alcy returning to the whiskey. Show some doubt and they never attack you but smooch in the hope you’ll join their team.
Gordon don’t you have anything else better to do with your time? Now fuck off!
Chas – this link may help
http://www.boots.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?categoryParentId=6370&storeId=10052&categoryId=42103&catalogId=11051&langId=-1
Hee-heee!
Might have to give that a go.
After twelve years of robbing us all blind, I think we’re more then entitled to “diss them into the ground”.
It’s not just the government we have a go at – they’re all fair game at the moment.
Don’t worry, the Conservatives won’t rob anyone, blind or not. That Cameron had that shifty, mellifluous wighead as a personal adviser is all suddenly forgotten. Odd that.
The abandonment of liberalism, whether expressed as socialism in its more radical form or merely as ‘organization’ or ‘planning’, was perfected in Germany. During the last quarter of the nineteenth century and the first quarter of the twentieth, Germany moved far ahead in both the theory and the practice of socialism, so that even today Labour policy largely carries on where the Germans left off. The Germans, long before the Nazis, were attacking liberalism and democracy, capitalism, and individualism.
CH said: “Anything positive about Labour is dissed into the ground …”
There isn’t anything “positive” about ZaNu: socialists are evil.
The mad brownhatter wacko Jocko who claims to be our prime minister doesnt give a fuck for our country.
Like all self haters he hates everybody else.
Section the Hoon
Gordon is a Mobius loop of hate.
I’m pleased you liked the reference!
Jonah is the most socially inept man I have ever seen; the video of him with the children singing ‘old macdonald’ was simply awful; he was clearly uncomfortable and I pity his own offspring.
Don’t be so one-sided.
I’m getting extremely worried about my eyesight and my hearing, it really isn’t in keeping with
Housing ‘not favouring migrants’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8137408.stm
I guess if I go to specsavers I will start to see social housing being used by ethnic indiginous white English. Remember, the terms they are using, such as Uk citizens. Once some one gets a UK passport, then they are ofcourse a UK citizen regardless of how long they have been here.
This ain’t going away no matter what biased reports you come up with!
There’s a thought: Let’s take away British citizenship of those who hold a UK passport! Great idea. Or is it something more sinister you have in mind . . .
Your idea not mine, pratt
can’t talk about immigration, must be a very sinister person as well as a racist!
Master B, where’s your Monica?
Condition UK citizenship on renouncing previous citizenship….oh dear Islamic based law doesn’t allow for that. Oh well, we have a percentage of new citizens who are dual nationals and retain allegiance to their country of origin. Check it out.
I highly recommend not bothering with BBC News. If everyone followed my recommendation it would wither and die, or better still change into something a leeetle less obvious to all but the weak-headed or unwilling-to-disbelieve.
Indeed Tuscan.
The Labour Party and the BBC – two institutions that are despised and even hated by the British Armed Forces.
If we close DFID and the BBC how much money would we have to start redressing the damage that lack of investment has done to the indigenous British peoples since 1997?
No-one I know in the military bothers with the BBC at all – certain regiments even call it “The Enemy Broadcaster of Choice” after they published Bin Ladens poetry.
I posed a question a few days ago asking people to suggest good things about the BBC.
All we came up with was Test Match Special, Gardener’s Question Time, I’m Sorry I Haven’t A Clue, repeats of Dad’s Army, and not a lot else. Some of the rest is good in parts, but most is either banal, biased or just plain garbage.
When is the Army going to get rid of them for us, fred?
If Bin Laden is the ‘enemy’ why do you object to fighting a war in Afghanistan?
Or is that just empty posturing?
Fred
In the 1970s the
oops
In the 1970s the forces were plotting to get rid Of Labour
Let us hope that this time they do.
I would welcome squaddies patrolling London , keeping order and kicking the fuck out of politicians.
The police are wankers
1st rule of newswatching: never believe the BBC. When they are trumpeting a lead story loudly, and triumphantly, you can guarantee that orders have gone out from the bunker that this one needs to be given “prominence”.
You can almost hear the joy in the news reader’s voice as they announce another survey showing that tractors are being produced at record levels, we are all racists, NuLabour is wonderful, and there are green shoots sprouting all over the place, turning into a forest just before an election.
master baiter you twat it’s not as if they have a choice is it, ever heard or abided by the terms of ”honour and duty” they may object to fighting bin laden but it’s their job and they have to go where ever they are sent too.
You’d soon be whinging if they refused to go fight the rag heads and came and shot and beat up you lefties for sending them to a futile war in the first place.
so don’t play the hypocrite card when your the very definition of living and breathing hypocracy.
Engineer,
Expect no depredation of your view on this occasion but, there was an interesting and good program on BBC4 about Britain’s involvement in Iran.
The BBC has become our own Lord Haw Haw, the enemy within, “Voluntarily” paid for by the public on pain of imprisonment.
Nobody would pay for the crap they produce if they had a choice.
I don’t pay, and I won’t pay.
I wouldn’t know if it was good, bad or indifferent, since I can’t get BBC4. If it was well researched, unbiased, informative and scholarly it would be the first time in many years the that BBC had managed it.
Call yourself an engineer, really!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00hq1w7/Iran_and_Britain/
If you are overseas use a proxy.
MB, some of us have other priorities in life. I would rather be in my workshop or garden than stuck in front of the goggle-box, so when I pay my £142-50 I would very much like to get something worth watching, or listening to on the radio. With a few honourable wxceptions, BBC output is poor.
Their coverage of technological matters, and the influence and effects of technologies on society and the wider world, is almost non-existent. There has been some debate about our future electricity generation and use policies; the BBC seems to think that wind farms are the only answer. I have seen no informed investigation or debate whatever on the BBC, though in fairness, other terrestrial channels are little better.
I’ve been watching Sky for some time now. It was fine until MJ died and Kay Burley is now on every five minutes with one or two small snippets of information (which don’t interest me) and the same old loop of film.
If you know of a better news station, please let me know.
I follow the patent Tuscan News parabola method.
First thing in the morning, before coffee has kicked in and the IQ is still hovering at room temperature level, I check out the Daily Mail. Then Guido, natch, and Sky News. As things sharpen up in the head dept, I move on to the Times Online and possibly the Torygraph if there’s something specific flagged inn a blog. During the day Guido and Times Online are always open in the browser tabs, and when work permits I dip in. City Unslicker for city comment. I also use news feeds (worth a look if that means nothing. But for the most authoritative take on the day’s key events, it has to be Tuscan Tony, of course.
Without wishing to score points, exaggerate or whatever, I never, ever visit BBC news, which I find altogether too stressful on the old ticker.
Bin Laden isn’t in Afghanistan. He’s in Pakistan with his friends.
er, no.
his friends are in Saudi Arabia, so he is probably hiding there.
why don’t we just go in and get him.
we might as well invade that fascist regime and bring democracy to the poor downtrodden people of Saudi Arabia.
those saudi arabian princes are barbarians.
time for regime change in Saudi Arabia, innit.
let’s do a bit of liberal interventionism and we can steal their oil aswell
RESULT!
Er, no.
The Saudi government would jail BL if they could get hold of him. And for BL, a Saudi jail would be worse than a Pakistani jail, and that’s saying something.
no no, they would not jail one of their own saudi princes.
now you are just being stupid.
he has been going round all the palaces having lots of lovely cups of tea with all the other princes!
I say we invade Saudi Arabia and free the population from the fascist regime.
let’s do it.
It’s quiet from labour today on the newsfront. Do you reckon they are all in a meeting planning their next lies and smears ready for PMQ’s? What do you think they will lie about next?
They’ve got the “wind up” regarding the possible backbench revolt of over 30 Labour MPs(assisted by both Opposition Parties) to reject the Finance Bill this afternoon spearheaded by Frank Field and Ministers are busy trying to “cut a deal” to head off the revolt over the 2007 “10p tax debacle” left over from Gordon’s time at the Treasury when he tried to convince people that nobody would lose out from one of his “cunning plans”
“Cut a deal” = threaten, cajole, smear and bully.
It’s a bad day to hide good news.
How about ‘Gordon Brown’s calling a General Election’?
Thought Gordon thought He had stuffed the Lords with his Yes men and women.
Could it be that some of them have found their conscencies since the expenses row and realise the damage Tony and Gordon’s Labour Party has done to Our country.
Lets hope that “The Lords” knock some common sense into this corrupt lot of politicians.
Or it that too much to expect?
The Prime Sinister,aka McBogey,McSnot,McMental & McSnotgobbler is
currently medicated.
As there are no lies being published at the moment perhaps a look at
http://www.sacklaing.co.uk may interest some of you bloggers/bloggeresses.
Sorry,
that should be:-
http://www.sacklaing.org.
The petition on the Number 10 Web Suite “We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to carry on leading this great country of ours.” has been running for several months and has attracted the vast total of 126 signatures including the well known characters:
• Mandy Lieswenislipsmove
• Wat A Narzole
• Nash Ennal-Embarassment
In contrast the petition calling on Brown to resign at: http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/please-go/ has now attracted got 68,566 signatures – the largest by a big margin of any petitions at Number 10.
The total number of signatures on this latter petition is though now stalling, can anyone – who loathes this current Prime Minister and this shoddy Bill exemplifies the incompetence of his administration – now sign it (if they have not done so to date) and pass on this request to as wide a circle of their contacts as possible. I hope we can get it to over 100,000 by the time it concludes in October.
I must admit I have daily chuckle to see that Gareth Cheeseman has been supporting the pm for some weeks now.
You have to factor in that the resign petition is possibly being manipulated to prevent Brown’s embarrrassment.
The signatures are probably well on the way to a million already.Be that as it may Brown will still suffer the most humiliating defeat in political history when we finally get the chance to vote on what an absolute disaster this phony genius has turned out to be.
Thank you for your help. It would be nice to get this petition moving more quickly again.
I am afraid that this post just highlights Guido’d stinking hypocrisy and true motives. After endless denigration of the behaviour of politicians he is now complaining that they are trying to do something quickly about it in response to demands from the public which he has paid no little part in whipping up. Guido is purely the black arts wing of the Conservative Party (following in the footsteps of his alter ego Sterling i daresay) – he just wants to use the issue of parlimentary standards or anything else for that matter to denigrate Labour and put his masters back in power. The last thing that Cameron and friends want to see in place are any changes to parlimentary standards which would place any restraint on their future behaviour or incomes.
Gordon how have you got the time to spend on here? Now get back into bed and just pop in another pill, the nurse will be round later.
If you disagree with an opposing view and you weren’t such an acute victim of chronic self abuse you would write something in response to the points above about Guido being no more than a black arts smear operation. Of course it would be difficult to present an opposing view to something that is so patently obvious and true.
Do you go fishing a lot?
What’s your recipe for best baiting then? in sea fishing preferably.
Nobody connected with the Labour party, of course, would ever have anything to do with black-arts smearing, would they? Especially not that nice Mr. McBride.
McBride used his own email account to gossip in a sometimes lewd fashion about Conservative politicians, hardly a black art!
Just a sign of his stupidity.
Presumably his role was to spin government and party communications and then try to implement the spin by feeding journalists stories and plying them with drink.
Black arts are, amongst many other things hacking email and mobile phone accounts. But for a convenient fall guy, Cameron’s spin bob almost went to prison for precisely such activity against the Royal fumbly.
MugPartner used his own email account to gossip sometimes in a lewd fashion about Conservative politicians, hardly a black art.
Just a sign of his stupidity.
Presumably his role was to spin government and party communications and then try to implement the spin by feeding journalists stories and plying them with drink.
Black arts are, amongst many other things hacking email and mobile phone accounts. But for the convenient fall guy, Cameron’s spin bob almost went to prison for precisely such activity against the Royal fumbly.
Yes, during the hours of 9 – 5 the labour loving public service employees can often be found here, using up the bandwidth of their employers, paid for, naturally, out of our taxes. Get on with some work, eh?
Labour denigrate themselves by their lying and bullying. I guess you’re wondering why doesn’t everybody think like you do? Because we have a brain and can work out for ourselves how corrupt and stalinist labour is. If you don’t like it, do what you tell us to do, just fuck off.
Doing something quickly does not equate to doing something well.
Any constitutional change should be the subject of intense scrutiny and wide debate; not something rammed through the House of Commons without adequate discussion.
The speed element is just so Brown can say he is doing something; why can’t he do anything properly?
Hogwash, the steps needed are simple. You can bluster that they’re not but they are. What’s the big difficulty? Just saying it’s rushed doesn’t amount to anything. What’s the problem?
Are you a deep sea fisherman,master baiter or just a big wanker?
Do you perhaps mean “the steps needed to stuff one up the Tories are simple”. It would seem that the Lords are not so impressed with this “simple” bill – I wonder why?
If the steps are so simple, why does your great hero, McStalin, get them completely and utterly wrong every time?
The problem is that it is rushed. Any legislation that is steamrollered through may have flaws that will only be detected when it becomes law.
This Bill may be perfectly satisfactory – although unlikely given that one crucial aspect has already been dropped – but as with any change to the law there should be rigorous debate and scrutiny before it comes into operation.
There is no need for speed; the threat of adverse publicity will keep MPs expenses in line until after the general election. We need good legislation not something that is just produced to make the existing government look as if they are doing something – that is just spin.
Legislate in haste – repent for ever.
“Steps needed” says it all, really. Why shouldn’t regular joes not do their own thing in their own time and in their own way, without some sort of imagined divine socialist shining the light for them? Are they too stupid? If so, what does that say to you about them voting for you?
The very word “steps” suggests central planning, and I can’t recall any centrally planned economy still in existence and/or worth living in. Quick straw poll: what’s the ratio of people moving from socialist to capitalist ones vs. vice versa?
Tooscat Tony, on a good day you’re a pathetic addled washed up dolt, today you have the insight of a cheesy piece of fungus engorged pumice stone in a port’s cheap dockside bath house brothel.
If you disagree with an opposing view and you weren’t such an acute victim of chronic self abuse you would write something in response to the points above.
Dog to Mick, that was a bit weak, no surprise.
Steps hmmmmm, steppes, maybe but steps? Tooscat has a problem, he really does.
TT “ratio of.. ” You’re forgetting about welfare migrants.
Its ironic that this post about hypocrisy attracts Master Hyprocrite, although I shouldnt wonder he probably started it, given his history of posting under may aliases.
Remember Master Hypocrite when the election comes you only have ONE vote.
Life would be much less entertaining without you, Master B: like Gary Elsby, you’re an unintentionally hilarious addition to any thread. For what its worth, I still think you’re either Stanislav or possibly a very drunk Derek Draper.
To you Guido is an icon, to us he is family.
Family? Speak for yourself – I reckon he’s a Grade 1 Murphy’s-fuelled pub jockey.
It is not necessary to use Black arts or resort to smears.
The Labour Party is destroying itself without our help.
In order to achieve their ends socialists must create power – power over men wielded by other men – of a magnitude never before known. Their success will depend on the extent to which they achieve such power. Democracy is an obstacle to this suppression of freedom which the centralised direction of economic activity requires. Hence arises the clash between socialism and democracy.
Many socialists have the tragic illusion that by depriving private individuals of the power they possess in an individualist system, and transferring this power to society, they thereby extinguish power. What they overlook is that by concentrating power so that it can be used in the service of a single plan, it is not merely transformed, but infinitely heightened.
This will all end within a year.
How ODD. A couple of Welsh tarts on SKY News screeching with joy that they have got tickets to Jacko’s funeral.
I admire the patrician disdain of applying for tickets, winning the lottery, then donating them to Sky for distribution to the needy.
Someone should check whether there is a D. Cameron in the list of winners.
Very patriotic they are too. One of the bints wiped the tears from her eyes and the snot from her nose on their flag.
The dirty bitch probably slept in it too.
Where’s a decent dragon when you need one.
Please refrain from looking out the window. The last three cold, wet non-summers are merely an insignificant blip. Go to bbc.co.uk to keep up to date on the latest propaganda.
It was the BBC that told me:
You can cover CD’s with dirt and they will still play.
The licence fee is good value for money.
Always have an adult present when using scissors.
Acid rain will destroy all the forrests.
The Ozone layer is getting bigger all the time and will destroy my window frames.
Jonathan Woss is top talent.
Their premium rate phone lines are Kosher.
Isolated tribes will die from every disease known to man.
Microwave cookers cook food.
Tony Blair lied about the 45 min warning. Well they have to get something right.
Found this rather amusing precis of fatso’s latest MI5 briefing:
“David Aaaronovitch’s new “conspiracy debunking” book Voodoo Histories is getting an extraordinary level of boosting by the mainstream media. Here are a few highlights from this masterly exposition:
- No government has ever done anything nasty to any of its citizens, ever, unless they were Socialists (including National Socialists) or Islamists. All other government is entirely open and secretive acts do not occur.
- All official inquiries, commissions and judicial investigations in history have been composed of entirely honourable people with no agenda to serve political masters and inspired only by a pure devotion to unalloyed truth
- There was no conspiracy to lie about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Colin Powell did not lie and show fake photos to the Security Council. Tony Blair did not lie to Parliament. George Bush did not lie to the American public. Nobody was waterboarded into confessing to the Al-Qaida/Iraq link. The dodgy dossier on weapons of mass destruction was a figment of the imagination of socialists/Islamists/other mad people, and anyway it was all true except they have hid the WMD, so there.
- The Zinoviev letter, Roger Casement’s diaries and the Jacobite order to massacre all prisoners if they won Culloden, were all quite genuine just like the government said.
- There was no St Bartholomew’s Day Massacre.
- The US had no part in the overthrow of Allende.
- Patrice Lumumba just went away on holiday.
- There was no conspiracy to kill JFK, or if there was, it was the Socialists
- Anybody who ever takes a different view on any of the above is a dangerous lunatic whose views on no subject at all need to be taken seriously.
- Belief in the official narrative is the definition of sanity.
- To defend the official narrative, the establishment needs to employ fat ugly propagandists with greasy hair and incredibly bad complexions”.
Did he mention that Father Christmas lives in Lapland?
That’s only a half truth peddled by fantasist bloggers and their lickspittles.
Father Christmas spends winter in Lapland, but summers in Helmand.
That’s why we must win; to save Santie!!
Now kiddies. Spread the Word.
Need to create a war? I know two people who are very good at selling them to joe public, even if there really is no threat. One’s a liar.b and the other makes soups.
Feck off socialist supporting scumbag.
a weak as piss riposte anticitizen.
what an intellectual cripple you are!
you sad, pathetic wanker.
Roger Casement’s diaries were all quite genuine – just like the government said.
Hey Freddie,will you be using an umbrella slipfield in Cardiff on Wednesday?.
My betting,lots of umbrellas.
You see all the labour trolls are using different names now. It’s all down to those brown smears you know.
“Gordon in Blunderland wants ‘legislation first, consideration afterwards’.”
What do you expect? He is a backward tnuc.
Has Gordon said which town he is going to blight with his summer holidays this year?
Boscastle
Isn’t there a nice little deserted island where they used to carry out anthrax research?
Yes, Cornwall. Just nuke the bridges over the Tamar.
Gruinard. He won’t want to go there, it’s in Scotland.
So, they got their flooding and destruction in a couple of years early in anticipation of a visit from the Great Jonah?
New Orleans?
Pompeii?
Atlantis?
Dunwich?
Or somewhere new this year?
how come if we’re predicted to be the first out of ‘the downturn’ in Europe – due to us having fuck all, not-worth-the-bother manufacturing industry left – is it that Germany, which has a 2 to 3 times larger proportionately of this outmoded shite saw its factory orders rise 4.4% in May whereas Britain’s factory output shrunk 0.6% in May? is there a difference between propaganda from the media and reality?
Please stop being so negative!! Doncha know, all is well in UK PLC. Council houses are never given to immigrants. While the rest of the world languishes in a slump, it’s boom time in Britain. Gordon Brown is helping hard working families – we never had it so good! So, let’s all rejoice. And after we’ve finished rejoicing, will the last one to leave the country please turn off the eco-friendly light?
We have not yet turned the corner and neither has America. Long ago I posted elsewhere that this economy would never recover until Starbucks has gone out of business. Because while people’s priorities and sense of value is so fucked up that they will consider paying three quid for a cup of coffee then there is still far too much money being put in the hands of utter fuckwits.
But I see today a start has been made. Coffee Republic is in administration. Only Costa and Starbucks to go and then we will be getting towards the bottom of the recession.
Three quid. For a fucking coffee.
I should open a jgm2 Coffee Store. Specialising in ludicrously expensive hand-knitted coffee at 20 quid a cup. After all, if folk are so fucked in the head they’ll pay three quid then they clearly have no grasp of the value of money and so you might as well charge ‘em 20 quid.
It’ll have office cachet. Oh, yah, I get my coffee from JGM’s. It’s 20 quid a cup you know. But it does taste sooo good.
Fucking arseholes.
Starbucks is the bellweather. When Starbucks goes bust then we’ll be returning to normalcy. Until then we’re still clinging to the squander mentality.
I read an article last week which said that the american housing market still had a long way to fall, so they’re not out of the woods yet.
It also reckoned that our recession could take as many as six years before things start to improve.
Starbucks in our town is still open, but not many in there. I think the penny is dropping, albeit slowly.
Your idea for £20 coffee is a surefire winner. I have money to invest. Lets talk.
I’m in!
JGM2,
Only 20 quid a cup?
http://most-expensive.net/coffee-in-world
The most expensive coffee in the world does not hail from Jamaica or Hawaii, but instead from Indonesia.
Kopi Luwak the most expensive coffee in the world does exist, and those who drink the expensive coffee insist that it is made from coffee beans eaten, partly digested and then excreted by the Common palm civet, a weasel-like animal.
take your piffle elsewhere.
thankyou.
Can I shop on-line?
Bugger it, just send the civet over, common or not.
So long as the Elm Grove Caff – 90p for instant and doorstep bacon sandwiches – stays in business I’m happy.
Gods, tat, you really are stupid! Shot yourself in the foot *again*! Think before calling your betters so, boy!
Tchibo is this week’s gaping hole in the high street/mall. Made better coffee than Starbucks too.
He must catch quite a lot of fish you know, that master baiter.
Bet he master baits while he’s waiting for one to pop up don’t you?
I gather he has an extendable rod, and he has been known to spin a line.
Bait them, hook them, play them out, reel them in.
They’re all quite thick it’s true, but it’s a good sport all the same.
A barb isn’t necessary, always.
Dream on, boy.
Be careful, you’re starting to sound like thick-as-thieves.
but you need a spinner, definitely a spinner, then you can just reel it in. I used to go fishing with Annette you know.
They flail around convinced they can get off the hook.
They don’t.
It’s not the first time he has sounded like tat – using similar response like “weak”.
Perhaps it is just a coincidence that several of Master Baiter’s aliases have been banned at the same time as “thick as thieves” disappears? Perhaps not.
I have many fans on both sides of the political divide.
I like to think I am creating a coalition of the unwilling.
Talking of spoilers, is the story about right wing extremists plotting a ‘spectacular’ just another of their revolting slug-trails aimed at justifying another of their own crimes against humanity?
Yes. It’s to share the ‘blame’ for the government being ‘forced’ to make ID cards compulsary amongst as many people as posssible. So the muslims and now (I guess) the B&P.
Yeah. The world is soooo much scarier than it has ever been. Nukes. WMD’s etc etc. So, to protect you from such things you will need to carry compulsory ID cards.
Bastards.
ID cards will serve no purpose other than to further cow the already law-abiding into accepting even more micro-management, micro-fines and micro-criminalisation of their hitherto balmeless lives while the real fucking criminals just forge right on and get risibly low sentences for the most horrendous crimes.
Utter fucking bastards.
err why would white extremists attack white people when they can just let the muslims do it themselves and look who the source for the story is unamed government spooks and UNAMED COMMUNITY GROUPS.
Aka marxists twats and extremist muslims frightened there agenda is going to be stopped.
That should be UN NAMED.
Who said they were going to attack white people? Although your point stands. Why should we trust the hearsay of the folk who allowed their dossier to be bastardised and rewritten by HMG so that Blair could claim we were going to be gassed in the next 45 minutes.
Every time a senior labour minister or muslim community leader opens there mouth a vote for the B&P is gained. They’re hardly gonna stuff up and then scare those voters away when they can let the other side do all the work for them.
This made up story that has lead to no crinimial convictions by the way is a sign that status quo are shitting their pants.
I aint gonna sit here and defend the B&P and far right extremists no matter what TAT likes to think i am but why even if they’re evil racists would they attack coloured people on a national scale with a terrorist attack and thus unite everyone of every creed and colour against them.
Why would they risk getting themselves outlawed and a trip to Gitmo? It works more against them that it achieves.
It doesn’t make sense to me at least with muslim terrorists, i can see they have they’re religious reasons and huge numbers of non violent muslims.
Matt C. One thing I will guarantee you is that if the B&P manage a mosque-based spectacular is that the streets will be blocked with white folk giving it ‘Not in my name’.
In stark contrast to the pedestrian and traffic-free conditions and tumble-weed rich environment we witnessed after the 7/7 attacks. No spontaneous million Muslim march giving it ‘not in my name’ after that as I recall.
You can guarantee that if something kicks off the B&P will get accused of it regardless.
They are trying to spin the fact that the only thugs on our streets are the antifascist league, who are of course exempt from the law.
One thing muslims got right though and we could learn from them:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1197900/Justice-Yemen-style-Paedophile-raped-boy-11-shot-head-hundreds-spectators.html
Hard to disagree with that verdict. I hope the guy who was shooting him didn’t get blood all over his trousers.
Barbaric, yes the bloke is barbaric too but two wrongs don’t make a right. Life in a hell hole of a Yemeni prison yes.
Definitely a Daily Mail / Sun subscriber aren’t you.
Hope it was the right bloke.
What sort of person takes the kids along to watch someone get their brains blown out?
Given the track record of unsafe convictions we have in this country, I’m very glad we no longer have the death penalty.
Would you really want anyone’s life to be in the hands of Jacquie Smith or Al Johnson?
Yes, some murderers deserve it, but I’d prefer they lives rather than some poor sod gets hanged by mistake – as happened all too frequently
The only amusing thing about that Daily Mail article is the hypocrisy of the commenters who on the one hand want to kill all perverts, but on the other want to decry Sharia law.
The Daily Mail readership never disappoints – in the comments following this article someone observes that the sight of a mob – including children – baying for blood is pretty revolting and that the Yemeni authorities may have executed the wrong man.
And this comment was heavily voted down.
So there you have it. Daily Mail readers think it is acceptable to blow someone’s brains out in front of children and it doesn’t really matter whether the bloke was guilty or not. At least someone got shot and the crowd went home happy.
Deacon, Deacon, Joey Deacon
Are you talking, talking, … talking % #e0007b56 (loop fucked), talking to me?
excellent LPUK clip. shame Barosso wasn’t in it
He’s in this one…
No change then. The youth is father to the man.
There used to be workers and students, now we have workers who have to become students in order to get a job and students who have to become workers because they have to pay the fees and don’t get grants any more, then there are people who want to work after leaving School but there are no jobs so they decide to become a student in the hope that in 2/3 years there may be some jobs but then they find they cannot get on a course because there aren’t sufficient places as the Government has not put the resources in to cope with the increase in demand. Many of the would be workers would far rather prefer an apprenticeship to learn a skilled trade but there are not any apprenticeships available to learn skilled trades, this leads to the dole, Polish plumbers, media studies graduates £20,000 pounds in debt and a surfeit of Hairdressers. Well that’s progress I suppose, IN MAD LAND.
It would be even more mad to go back to the grant system.
Then you believe education should only be affordable by the privileged?
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BLEEDING SPANYARD
Is it true that since 1997 the government have passed more laws than all previous governments?
they’ve certainly passed more motions than the rest of the population put togther. Told you they are full of shit.
On a board like this, what kind of answers do you think you are going to get?
one’s that you dont like, why don’t you just fuck off if you dont like it. By the way, that guy in no 10 needs his arse licked again. Bet you miss that other bloke, you know the one from hull. Now he did have quite a big arse to lick didn’t he!
something sensible might help
I believe that is probably true.
In their first four years of parliament Labour passed 165 Public Bills. In their later years that number has increased and the figure for the whole 12 year period is believed to be somewhere in the region of 500 Public Bills.
These figures however don’t include Private Member’s Bills, Hybrid Bills or Private Bills (which I think largely relate to Local Government and other authorities).
Someone a while ago, who worked in Westminster, remarked jokingly that this government had written a bill a day for every day that they had been in office! Probably not true but it gives some idea of how those working in the system view the torrent of ceaseless legislation that this government has produced.
well there are currently no laws against spanking nell, so let’s get cracking eh?
I thought that Private Eye’s troll round the chat boards column was comedy. It’s got nothing on this.
yeah, innit!
/ prowd 2 b brittish \
Would you mind making a more intelligent, articulate and pertinent comment please. We can well do without these ill thought out comments on here. Thank you.
I tried to imitate some of the insightful and intelligent comments above. Such a herculean task defeated me.
typical socialist just gives up so easily and leaves it to others to get them out of the hole and shit they have got in to.
Says someone who couldn’t even think up a moniker.
You complete Hoon!
And yet you’re hooked.
Does that fucker ever shut the hell up?
Yep. When the electricity fails on his autoque.
O/T but I found this rather amusing….
http://www.newsday.com/media/flash/2009-04/46217527.swf
Enjoy !
Stephen Byers attacked
7/7 … A bad day to bury very good news.
Brown needs to learn how to wipe his arse properly
get a chutney munky to carry out the dirty work
[...] a similar theme, Guido Fawkes reports that the House of Lords has criticised the bill to create the parliamentary standards [...]
Hey guys, I’m a bargain basement Goe-Balls for the mendacious old saggy rocking horse rider and his misshapen drooling thugs.
Just in case you missed me!
Financial Misconduct = Mandelson (risky old me, eh!?)
‘Ere stop messin’ abahht!
Corr phew! It weren’t ‘arf ‘ot Mum.
ive been to corfew, very hot
Peter!
Thought you might be able to do with a really good laugh, this rainy afternoon:-
Labour’s purpose is fairness: fair rules, fair chances and a fair say for everyone. In 1995 we set out our values in Clause IV of the Labour Party’s constitution:‘The Labour Party is a democratic socialist party. It believes that by the strength of our common endeavour we achieve more than we achieve alone, so as to create for each of us the means to realise our true potential and for all of us a community in which power, wealth and opportunity are in the hands of the many, not the few.’Those democratic values have guided us through eleven years in government: everything from the large canvas of economic stability, full employment and record investment in public services, to the fine detail of the minimum wage, free museum entry and civil partnerships.
You coulnd’t make it up could you? Could you? Obviously they did!
Although our modern socialists’ promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere, in recent years observer after observer has been impressed by the unforeseen consequences of socialism, the extraordinary similarity in many respects of the conditions under ‘communism’ and ‘fascism’. As the writer Peter Drucker expressed it in 1939, ‘the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of unfreedom and inequality which Germany has been following. Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany.’
No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related.
Why is Malik the thieving fucker sitting on the front bench and not in a prison cell.
Errr, because he brings in the block vote from a certain religious grouping, per chance?
No Fred, thats the other fellow, the one with a private militia 10,000 strong – the text death driving Lord who got 14 and a half minutes in prison for killing a bloke on a motorway….
Skin colours bother you a bit, Fred?
Anonymong,
I hate to break your blinkered “there are racists everywhere & they are all white” mantra, but I believe that the certain religious grouping I was referring to come in a multitude of colours and ethnicities.
Please, spend a little more time here and less on the taxpayer funded Grauniad / Al-BBC-eera propaganda platforms – you may achieve a little balance in your myopic political outlook.
God save the Queen.
I just realised why you insinuated that I am a racist – you read “block vote” & immediately, because of your inverted racism & your inate leftist desire to close down debate, read it as “black vote”.
What a sad tosser you are.
You are finally dismissed for the day.
No, but rank injustice does!
Because he was a million percent within the rules. Honest.
No Fred, I didn’t read ‘block’ as ‘black’ at all. Notwithstanding that, your politics are crystal clear.
Shoulda gone to spicsavers then, you twat!
Ed Balls in crackdown on gay bullying
http://www.tips-q.com/news/msm/1111575-schools-secretary-ed-balls-crackdown-gay-bullying
Highly amusing headline given the way Eddie treats Gordy and Mandy
This explains Sarah’s sudden pride in pink issues, why Mandy wears the trousers plus a whipping boy called “Darling” – you couldn’t make this up
Current dance song about Gordon Brown
I wake up, everyday is a daydream
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some people say I’m bonkers
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I’m just living my life there is nothing crazy about me
bonkers
Why doesn’t the Huhne just fuck off and die?
Fair point well made.
I thought the Chinese where the most tolerant people in the world. Looks like Anarchy is breaking out over there.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1198035/Chinese-riot-police-use-tear-gas-quell-protesters-violence-flares-again.html
Great Britain – beacon of tolerance etc. Wait until it kicks off here.
Just what the overpaid Pigs want isn’t it? On the upside it will distract them from getting even more secret backhanders, cars, nannys. Bet they discuss all this crap at their secret ACPO meetings.
Bastards.
All of a sudden doilly mull is in favour of Islamic movements?
I hope you are paying for your own internet connection and that we are not paying for it via our taxes. You just can’t trust liebour people.
British movements for British people!
yeh ask john prescott he neede two toilets for his movements
Labourlost is paying for Master Baiter.
He is NuLabors secret weapon in the great patriotic war against the right wing blogosphere.
Shows how desperate they are.
Considering that now, in this post ‘Nightjack’ world, bloggers are no longer entitled to anonymity, maybe some of the more technical and journalistic amongst us could obtain a ‘profile’ of some of the usual suspects… be interesting (and hysterically funny) to see the faces behind the bluster, hard-man threats and insults… in the case of tat, we could donate the blackmail money to a charity for the disabled!
There is good and bad in everything. We condemn the bad things, not the people who (rightly or wrongly) wear, or are given the label.
I can find things in Islamic teaching that I support and agree with, although there is much that I disagree with too.
Hey up, Silvio’s escaped again. Nurse, the butter fly net please.
I’m BACK.
rivers of water out there today
No you’re not, thank God.
Hey Fred, nice to see you back again. What about a comment on ‘scrounging foreigners’ or something of that kind?
Fuck off you socialist Huhne.
Second that. Fuck off you fascist.
That’s the stuff
I’ve just decided you’re a paedophile.
I’ve got as much right to call you one as you have to call someone a Nazi. It’s so easy to sling loaded words about, isn’t it?
Enoch Powell,
The first Cassandra destroyed by cultural marxist censorship.
O/T but may, in time, be seen as the beginning of the end.
California State has, if you don’t already know, given up on paying public servants and businesses who do business with them with US dollars. They’ve run out and can’t get any more finance.
So, they’ve decided to issue IOU’s. But, unfortunatley, from this coming Friday, all the major US banks won’t accept the California State IOU’s.
So, if you’re a teacher or a fireman or a trash collector or an office worker, or a small business providing services to them, you get given a bit of paper that is completely and utterly untransferable. Worthless!
I give you the first US State to hit the buffers. 49 more to go.
It started in America
The world’s banks, pension funds and life assurance companies are stuffed full of worthless pieces of paper. They are known generally as ‘Asset Backed Securities’ and come in guises such as CDO and CLO and so on.
You know the tune ‘Let the market decide’.
California is the worlds eighth largest economy.
The UK is sixth – don’t think it can’t happen here especially with Gordon spending money he has printed. It is criminal for anyone else to print their own money and do a “Viv Nicholson” – actually it is criminal for Gordon to do it too
Noone is saying it can’t happen here.
Gordon doesn’t run California.
The California state government is out of cash not because of over spending but because of a collapse in tax revenues, which in a large part are property taxes.
If you believe the problem is caused by overspending your mad.
The problem is caused by a corrupt financial system.
Follow the food chain of commission payments.
Many economists, including Mervyn King are saying that the collapse in the UK will accelerate if you cut public spending now.
We have exactly the same problem.
A complete collapse in tax revenues and the impossibility of continuing to spend money that is not there.
The real problem in the UK is that ticking timebomb – unemployment. By continuing the unsustainable amount of public spending you will increase the tax burden on the private sector, which is where the wealth comes from. Which in turn will lead to more unemployment.
McDoom is getting us deeper and deeper into debt at the same time strangling the bread winner. Borrowing money to pay off debts only shovels the shit further down the line making it harder and harder to clear up.
If you have a pile of earth in the garden – you wouldn’t dig a hole to bury it, would you?
More accurately the state got used to the bubble in tax revenue caused by the credit bubble that was regulated into existence by Basel2.
……. and Mervyn King has been sooooo good at seeing the future – so we should definately listen to him.
see http://www.safehaven.com/article-13839.htm if you want to know what “real” economists think
The problem is caused by a corrupt financial system.
Follow the food chain of commission payments.
Master Baiter, it no longer matters to the electorate who is right and who is wrong, where it started or where it will stop. The public no longer trusts the Prime Minister, his government and the Labour Party. It is the consequence of 12 years of lies.
If Cameron said he would buy a Euro-Lottery ticket to solve the country’s economic problems, the electorate would vote him into office.
Lying Sellotape, How does that help California.
It started in America
It was caused by a corrupt financial system.
Follow the food chain of commission payments.
The financial collapse will not stop if Cameron buys or doesn’t buy a lottery ticket or wins or doesn’t win the election.
The electorate are not convinced by the Conservitudes and their swerving drunk driving.
Look at the characters they’ve got to offer, spit and lick Cameron, eat my gherkin Pickles, powder my nose Osborne, I’m angry and stupid Dunkin’ Smith, goodness gracious Theresa May, how long are those vowels in the window Ken Clarke, don’t bet your mortgage on them, just don’t.
Dear Master Baiter you are obviosuly a political media type that likes to target blame in one place.
The financial crisis was caused by the confluence of many events.
Greenspan kept US rates to low for too long to transfer debt from US Corporations to individuals.
The Chinese happily lent the USD’s they earned from the US consumer back to the US Treasury and printed money back home raising Chinese currency reserves and increasing US money supply. The Chinese acted like a huge deprtmant store credit card where they lend you money to but their goods (until you can’t afford to pay it back).
At the same time AIG Financial products in Curzon Street sold credit default options to banks so that they insured the money they lent out. As long as the insurance was cheaper than the 8% debt provisioning, banks lent money with impunity as they were not carrying the can if the borrower defaulted. This increased global money supply by 30% which is now being deleveraged.
The massive government mistake was not to require banks to make bad debt provisioning on loans covered by default insurance which created the systemic banking failure and collapse of AIG.
Master Baiter, you are right that the commission greed of the bankers propelled this lending greed at light speed, but prudent regulation, spotted by many in the industry could have prevented the excess.
Blair and Brown wanted everyone to have access to capital to enrich themselves and benefit the nation, which is a good idea. But all things in moderation and the greed and excess of bankers and politicians was their downfall.
Master Baiter, like Gordon you should stick to politics and media and leave economics to the professionals
It’s the economy, stupid.
O/T but well worth reading.
Mathew Elliott’s, (Taxpayer’s Alliance) address to the Swedish people on their EU Presidency and the Lisbon Treaty. In Swedish with English translation.
http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/media/2009/07/expressen-sweden-matthew-elliott-choose-democracy-over-prestige-prime-minister-reinfeldt.html
British Parliament is Supreme.
If I must take up arms against British turncoat politicians to enforce that supremacy then so be it.
You will not be alone.
there is a civil war coming fred.
a war between new labour war party politician traitors and the people.
it is comforting to know that some of us have the balls to resist.
it will only take a few brave men to defeat the weasel politician traitors.
hangings will be the method of justice meted out to the dogs.
no joke.
let the war against the new labour fascists begin.
Poll tax riots will look like a kids party.
What’s all this about jackson’s casket going to staples corner? Why?
Land of Leather are putting in a bid for his skin.
For a Pouffe?
What colour will it be?
What would Sir prefer?
Beige, or maybe Taupe would be nice.
It will be emptied at Forest Lawn so that it can be passed between the fans during the Offertory at Staples Corner. It’ll help defray expenses.
If David Cameron is ‘Mr. TenPerCent’ then Gordon Brown is
Mr. OneHundredandTenPerCent…..
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/your_say/article6658365.ece
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They want to make it harder for people to flee the U.K. plantation/Emigrate.
what concern is it of yours anticitizen?
you are a foreigner.
RACIST! RACIST RACIST!
and what is racist about telling a shit stirring foreigner to keep their nose out of British business.
you sound like a traitor to me.
we know what to do with traitors in this country.
and it’s quite funny really because you are probably a racist.
you idiot.
Somebody just told me you need a passport now to go to the Channel Islands on Holiday, mind you one of them is only 12 miles from France, think I could make it on a pedalo?, the Great Escape.
They’re not in the EU, which may explain this.
But you need a passport to travel to other European countries ( in the EU), the Channel Islands have been British for the last 300 years or whatever FFS.
IF YOU WATCH NOTHING ELSE TODAY WATCH THIS………….
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8138956.stm
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Mandy speechless!
He should nt talk with this mouth full if Brown’s willie is his role….
Pitiful. Is this what we pay these clowns to do during OUR time??
Too right. WTF were they blithering about ?
Mandy wasn’t happy was he? The pause wasn’t comic timing, he was controlling his temper.
Wouldn’t be surprised if Peter Luff is found dead in a ditch one day.
I think ‘in the woods’ is the preferred location with a blunt penknife close by
Have you ever been tempted to extend the metaphor?
So Gordon’s been ‘fixed up’ with balls (Ed) and willy (Mandelson) he must be invincible now, the 275 Billion dollar man, well that’s what he’s cost us so far.
When will the auditions start for the coming panto season? It looks like our Gordon is going for Widow T Wanky.
Madnelson could be Dick Wittington or Cinderella, as he has a thing about Balls. (“Behind you!”)
Any other suggestions? Blears for Puss In Boots, perhaps.
Balls Mrs as the ‘Wicked Witch’
Prezza and watson as the Ugly Sisters
Bit obvious really – Margaret Beckett for the pantomime horse (would suit head or tail).
Gordon Brown has wished a peaceful Dharma Day to Buddhists in Britain and around the world…stand by for news of mass ritual disembowelings!
Indeed, with the price of petrol here on treasure island there is no way they are going to pour it over themselves & set light…..
Mass ritual disembowelings don’t require Risk Assessments.
Is this the closest Pravda will get to telling us the truth about Brown & Mandleson?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8138956.stm
Mandelson has a sense of humour!
Fucking needs one with a face like that.
Judging from this report, these chaps in the Lords seem to have a half decent amount of common sense, and much much more than anyone in Government has.
It reminds me of the good sense set out by that bloke who oversaw the last Diana inquiry, and the judge(was he a lord?) who wrote out the agreement between McCartney and Mills – why can’t these people be in charge of all the sruff that people like Brown, Balls, Harman, Straw, Smith, Prescott, Milliband(s), Jowell and the rest get so universall wrong? Based on ethe evdience, I’m moving in favour of an all-appointed parliament with no elected members at all. Oh hold on, first can you extract Uddin, that Lib-Dem Chief Exec, Martin, Archer, Hanningfield, the Labour ones who took the cash for influence etc, ………
So many comments and opinions here! I could read them for hours … and do!
One thing for certain … Broon’s pants are broon (front and back, inside and out), Balls n Darling’s too … but Mandlebrot the snake will adapt and survive.
Broon has a PhD in history … and that is where he and NuZheil_labour will be consigned. Sooner rather than later before the cameras take over.
What did broon say … “Everybody should pay their fair share of tax”. So MPs set a precident on that one and I suggest that nobody fills in their tax return with the same honesty than these hoons have shown us! Comments welcome and Well Done Lords & Ladies!
ps. Guido … Glad that you banned Charles E as his drivel was becoming boring!
My favourites are:
Bjorn Liah and Mandy Lieswenislipsmove.
hee hee
Will no-one rid me of this bastard pestilence?
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Anyone else would have resigned after such an attack. But not Gordon! He just keeps right on gurning -with apologies to Felix the Cat)
Anyone else would have resigned after such an attack. But not Gordon! He just keeps right on gurning -with apologies to Felix the Cat…
I won, so fuck the low paid workers.
Why don’t we ask tat what happened – after all, he *is* a self-announced genius, and claims to know a lot more about the big, bad world than we do!
I’m going to vote Labour when I grow up.
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