Jonathan Djanogly’s Agent Resigns Ahead of Constituency Meeting
All is not well in the Huntingdon Conservative Association. The agent for Jonathan Djanogly MP, Sir Peter Brown, has just resigned saying in his letter of resignation:
“I have served the Party professionally for 42 years, nearly 25 of which have been in the Huntingdon Constituency. There have been momentous times, not least working with a British Prime Minister whose service to the Country and his Constituency were exemplary. The strength and depth of the Association has been of great pride and joy to me personally. As for the future, I intend to serve my four year term representing the Huntingdon Division on Cambridgeshire County Council. This will be my sole aspect of political work.”
Not incredibly hard to read between the lines here when you know that Djanogly faces a constituency meeting on Thursday where his expenses will come under scrutiny. Constituency sources say that despite the MP paying £25,000 back to the fees office, Sir Peter was unwilling to publicly support Djanogly, so he resigned as his agent.
Some of the focus is on the cash claimed – without receipts – for a cleaner, allegedly that cash went to an au pair. The Thursday meeting is open only to paid up local Tory members.
Tory Bill Wiggin’s meeting with angry voters was “open to all” or was it? Either way it didn’t go to plan:
Say what you like about Djanogly, he plays some cool jazz guitar. Nice!
Yeh NICE….man…
He might be good at all that ‘jazz’ (on the fiddle perhaps?) – but he has the face only his mother could love….
23 claims for a non existent mortgage ain’t bad, har har har. I’ve got Cameron close behind me, very close, he always covers my back.
We all know about trick photography. This video’s been faked by a vigilante.
Enjoyed his work with Stiff’un Garpelli in the Warm Klub of Franz.
He was on the fiddle an’ all….
Hey,any MP’s lost a finger or two?
Transplants allowed,keep it underhand?
I can’t say what I like about him but I would like to say that I think that Sir Peter Brown appears to be on honourable man. Unlike so many in politics these days.
To anyone out there scratching their heads, this lot are referring to Django Reinhartd.
Also Stephane Grapelli as Trough Mixturepointed out above. Fiddling bastard!
……..and Diz Disley, of course. Used to career about in a hearse, as I recall. The late (far too often) Melly had a few stories to tell…..
There’s one lame loser writing most of the posts on this topic, the same mug who pasted together bits of the film, out of context, to make it look dodgy. Ever seen the inside of a courtroom, Mr?
To be fair to Wiggin, there must be a limt on the number of people who can fit into a meeting. The main complainer was a prospective candicate (Tory? Liberal? Labour? Monster Raving Loony?) and so hardly neutral.
Go over to Mrs Dales – you big pink handbag!
Careful you don’t get Swine Fever!
The Penguin
So wrong! I was there when Wiggin was asked why he did not hold this so called ‘public’ meeting in the leisure centre (where they have held Tory party meetings before). The Con club (very apt) was too small & also intimidating for those who would have come if it were somewhere else. For a number of reasons the Democratic Process, Equal Participation For All, did not happen on May 27 in Leominster. North Herefordshire Conservative Association behaved like a bunch of dictators. May 27 was a shameful day for Democracy & a black day for Leominster.
All you chaps are the same chap.
To ‘Seriously in trouble’, no we are not all the same chap! We are people who defend our democratic rights & those of the general public. Unlike you & your friend Wiggin & his odious North Hfds Conservative Association we are decent morally honest people who do not like being pushed around! Wiggin & his party town councillors should all resign!
That meeting was a farce and Wiggin is an arrogant arse not fit to lick the boots of the public.
Doorman (Brigadier Peter Jones, local Tory councillor): It’s full!
Conservative activists: But we got Bill’s email!
Doorman: Oh, that’s jolly nice!
(He shoos them in)
(Ordinary voters who have been waiting try to follow them)
Councillor Doorman Jones: Sorry, can’t let you in unless specifically invited by Bill!
Were you specifically invited?
Tory C**T.
Bad as the Zanulab liars and thieves.
Fuck them all, vote independent – anything but Lab Con Lib.
Fuck the lot of them.
I think we all have had enought of this Con/Lab/LD fiasco.
As for Cameroon, and boy George, they think the Party
belongs to them.
Sickening… Old zanulab / nuZanuCon spin
how true
i agree i’ll never vote for these twat’s again !
Fuck off to Cuba then boys. No voting shit out there.
Makes no difference
ZanuLab will be GONE soon.
Replaced by ZANUCON.
Good
Keep off the drugs…
Up yours Stalin
doctor dickhead,
I’m surprised you aren’t at accident and emergency after that good fucking hiding I gave you earlier.
now fuck off before I give you another bashing.
you are making a right fool out of yourself you silly old c’unt.
imbecile.
What is it with Tory MPs, expenses and au pairs?
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone…… THWACK !!! Are there any women here ????
Don’t be so homophobic, try a man!
I am Gordon’s Willie
O/T I know bit I just love it……
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8138956.stm
Yes, the current political buzzwords are ‘transparent’ and ‘accountable’ – but only once you’ve been caught with your fingers in the till it would seem.
Anyone who makes so many “mistakes” or “errors” with their expenses which continue “undetected” is at best incompetent and at worst, certainly not honest or qualified enough to be a local party chairperson or treasurer, let alone an MP.
“It’s time to tell the truth, not polite lies” – Lyndon Larouche, 27.6.09
As for a venue not being big enough to house “all welcome”…..once again, incompetence or a conspiracy???
What’s within the rules is appropriate.
Wiggin’s venue WAS big enough to house all welcome. It’s just the only ones ‘welcome’ were Bill’s backslapping cronies. This guy is a Conservative whip.
If Mr Cameron doesn’t sack him for these shifty manoeuvrings, it will tell us all a lot.
Gerard Strang is busy busy busy
Decent Hereford Tory is right, however, Cameron’s meeting in Whitney was a carbon copy of Wiggin’s! Local press not informed, but every Tory member phoned or e-mailed. At 4pm when many would still be at work, only one poster & that was in the Con club itself, few outsiders let in like me made to give name & address which was written down, despite my having my driving licence on me as proof I lived in the constituency (reminiscent of a dictatorship!). Wiggin & his secretary Di Mansell & local Tory Chairman Chris George think this will all blow away in time. We got news for you, it wont! Democracy will win the day!
Listen to what he says on the vid about his ‘mistake’ – ‘As soon as it was corrected it was put right.’ Bye-bye Bill.
“Open to all”, subject to the capacity of the venue. Not really his fault that – more to do with physics. Blame that Einstein bloke, I say.
It was full then it wasn’t, depending on if you had an invite or not – according to one bloke @ around 2 mins 40 secs.
And that bloke is apparently a local conservative Councillor, Brigadier Peter Jones, so he’d know full well if there was a prearranged plan to vet & stage manage the audience. The evidence of this vid is that it was a ‘show reconciliation’, exactly what Hitchens in the D. Mail claims happened the very day before in Witney with Bill’s mate and leader D. Cameron.
Was that the strategy they devised when the Telegraph stuff broke? Organise fake ‘open meetings’, pack ‘em out, tell the press that all has been forgiven by ‘the constituents’?
Fair play to whoever filmed Wiggin’s meeting: that strategy has been outed.
It’s easy enough to find out. Cllr Brig Peter Jones CBE lists his telephone number on the Leominster Council website as 01568 613949. Was it a health and safety issue or a simple matter of fascism in the shires, I intend to ask.
Treading on thin ice here Mr M
What’s your number?
For the LIBERTARIANS AMONGST US
Enuff!
Join sweet-FA, support no one,
for all are TROUGHERS waiting to take their own share
of the spoils.
You are madder than a really mad thing and probably stoned.
I’m stoned too.
In fact, I’m WIGGIN’ OUT!
Ain’t you???
The snouters need routing out but show me a few labour porkers who’ve stood and faced an “open to all” meeting….we’ve already seen how labour meetings are controlled.
Who can forget Komrade Broon’s Stalinesque speech to fawning party activists last month, with their obsequious “questions” and grovelling, hand-wringing, supineness.
Anyone who can’t fix the results of an ‘open’ meeting, or a constituency ballot, has no place in politics.
Don’t be ridiculous. Troughing is troughing, regardless of the stripe of politics involved. Away with them all, I say.
Hear hear, left, centre or right makes no difference to the current lot.
Total clear out and fumigation is the only option left.
yeah…..left wing, right wing, centre – they’re all parts of the same vulture.
Here here.
Ratsniffer.
Who can forget Komrade Broon’s Stalinesque speech to fawning party activists last month, with their obsequious “questions” and grovelling, hand-wringing, supineness.
I just love those words, well said
From Guido’s seen elsewhere,
“Byer’s attacked over expenses”
Police arrested a 64-year-old man at the scene at Shiremoor, near Newcastle, on Saturday. He was then given a caution for common assault.
He sprayed a soft drink.
Why do the police allow and encourage the antifascist league to throw eggs at elected politician’s in organised assaults, without taking any action?
Aren’t they more of a threat to democracy than an enraged, single, 64 yo man with a bottle of Fanta?
My anxiety stems from the historical truth that an integral part is played in the rise to power of right wing groups by uncontrolled violent protest.
It does not take an idiot to write the script.
It makes me feel uncomfortable too, but voters up north must be extremely dissatisfied with their lot in politics to vote for the unmentionable party in the first place.
Pity the mainstream parties don’t seem to take that on board.
Last chance saloon. Use your vote carefully…
Like sell it?
Is the blog fucked again?
Yes it is!
Isn’t this what your intern is for?
The mainstream parties have turned half the population off politics,and has driven some others to take desperate measures. A lot of these people are hard working,law abiding citizens. If you can’t engage those who are the backbone of society,what hope is there of good governance?
Another telling point is the almost seamless transition from left wing to extreme right. As easy as stepping through a door.
Only a Labour supporter could do that.
Dear So17
“Only a Labour supporter could do that”.
Or a Tory, where there is money, there is a Tory hoovering it up.
No amount too large or too small.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
the hoovering up of money is North of Hadrians wall
It used to be that the Tories bedded everything they could and the socialists pocketed everything they could.
Now they are no different from each other.
The Tories haven’t been fucking the country up for the last 12 years. Theres one difference numnuts
‘Didn’t do too much opposing, though, did they?
Maqboul al Aboula 6:46 -
“The Tories haven’t been fucking the country up for the last 12 years. Theres one difference numnuts”
The Tories have failed spectacularly in their duty as an effective opposition you prick. If they were any way half decent the country wouldn’t be in the position it is now.
Sod off.
The Tories are in opposition. They are powerless. As evidenced by the Labour parties decision to double tax on the poorest paid. Using their parliamentary majority.
Powerless? Is this another of those comments one sees here? You know, the ones in which all evidence, all common sense, all available analysis suggests the opposite?
Without an opposition Labour would have fucked us up so much more than they have already.
What opposition?!!
Sure they look stronger since gordon came to power – and I’m not knocking DC but some of that’s because gordon is a laughing stock.
If the Cons weren’t so utterly useless and wedded to the status quo they would have gone to the country in 2005 and talked a bit of common sense, shown Blair up for the faux politician that he is and inform the country that the good times they were having on their credit cards had to come to an end.
That they didn’t is testament to their weak, lilly livered heart.
Shame on them. They are as much to blame as the bloody Labour bastards.
In this you are correct. After two failed elections the Tories were so desperate for power that they did the same trick as Blair in 1997. Guaranteed to follow Labour spending for the first two years (may have been more) of the parliament.
When if they’d simply told the truth. The obvious, fucking self evident truth that this is all smoke and mirrors and borrowed money then they wouldn’t have a mere 40% of voter support by now. They’d have fucking 60%.
And this isn’t wise-after-the event fucking economics….
Look. St Patrick’s Day March 2004
http://boards.fool.co.uk/Message.asp?mid=8437197&sort=postdate
That’s me folks.
Self-fucking-evident.
Hello Nell or is that Mr M?
What??!! – How can you compare me to anyone but myself!! I am mortified!!!!
The tories used to be damned fine swordsmen, but they slipped, to be overtaken by the likes of sweating Two Jags, thrashing about with his pork sabre….and then shovelling down a couple of post copulatory kebabs.
Seeing as in the circle of political thinking the unmentionables are but one step away from the raving communist losers its not surprising that Labour supporters are the ones voting for the rabid losers. But then they have been voting for rabid losers for years so why would that surprise anybody.
On the other hand I am yet to meet a Tory supporter who at least admits to wanting the BNP anywhere near government. The ones I know may vote UKIP.
I’ll tell you one more thing. I would vote for a party of penguins led by a fucking elephant if it meant Labour got out of my life and my wallet for a long period of time. But I still wouldn’t vote BNP.
And rightly so, the idea that the BNP is a right wing facist party is a myth created by the guardianistas, read the BNP manifesto it only differs from the labour parties in the areas of forced repatriation and racism otherwise they are socialist through and through. Fascism was a word first used by mussolini’s political party in the 1930′s and basically concerns state control and socialism, this is why the italians and german governments believed the way forward was national socialism and why they initially fought the second world war together as ideological and military allies. Why do you think the second world war is no longer taught in our schools today, its because if you actually discover the truth about the history of socialism and fascism you have to realise that they are basically the same thing.
Well that’s not true about Mussolini.
If it were, why did his Fascisti regime specifically repress socialist and communist Italians?
According to your rewriting he’d have been inviting them into a Coalition government!
In truth, Mussolini’s Fascist regime was in hock to big business and Italian agribusiness in the hope that the Facists would destroy the Unions and keep wages down. Which they did.
In short Anonymous, you’re a rather little-read monkeyman.
But do enjoy the hot weather!
Mr Catesby
Except for Tories, I suppose. Moron.
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University except for non-Labour supporters, I suppose. Cretin.
Dear Oldrightie
Calm down dear!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Well said Mr Laird, I’ll buy you a pint or two in the union bar later.
What about MY human rights you TURD ? Not to be fucking ripped off by your lords and masters you TIT !
Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany.
No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related.
They are not the only people extremely dissatisfied. My part of London is too.
What is the problem. Bring it on!
The fascists and the nazis were and still are, left wing, psuedo-socialist, collectivists.
Just go to our own B an P`s shitty website and read their crappy manifesto, socialism, socialism and more socialism, with added nationalism. The whole “far right” lie has its origins in revisionist Soviet propaganda.
Bill Wiggins deserves to lose his seat, his pension, and he should never be allowed to work in politics again. If he had a shred of dignity, he would never have claimed for a mortgage he didn’t have in the first place.
How DC deals with this will have a big impact on my vote at the next election.
You can’t vote in jail.
“You can’t vote in jail.”
Wow!
This Wiggin guy is superpowerful if simple criticism of him on ‘tinternet means you actually end up in Stir!
I for one will now never dream of criticising the King of Tamanny Hall, Leominster…
Five grand claimed for automatic gates, the lazy f*cker. I bet he’s got a telly remote as well.
You could pay someone to open the gates for less.
Not me. I’d want £25K a year at least.
You’d crash the cars all the time. No thanks.
Is your blog running on a Win server?
The aupair?
Getting my au pair to empty the dishwasher is hard enough.
Opening gates would be impossible…
Crooks the whole lot of Em They all want clearing out and the Police should charge them with fraud just like they would to the rest of us if we stole public money.
What about that Jack Straw and his “bad accountancy”? That’s right dodgy is that.
don’t mention the drugs
Yes Mr Straw. About those drugs. You neglected to mention that on your I-94. Your Visa is hearby terminated with prejudice.
Great point, I wonder whether he’s allowed over there.If so, why?
People like Djanogly & Wiggin don’t go into Parliament to represent their constituents. They go to represent themselves and to see what “opportunities” they can take advantage of. Goodbye to both.
The smug woman says she came to support Bill Wiggin – but she didn’t even know his name doesn’t have an “s” on the end….!!
I have it on authority that the ‘s’ is silent. That means he’s a ‘hit, doesn’t it? Anyway, imagine MacKay addressing him: ‘Hello Mr Wiggin’ . . .
It has been said that that is why the Stock, Aitken and Waterman office was known as ‘The Hit Factory’.
Apparently, someone slammed the door and the ‘S’ fell off.
And Bill Wiggin – a hifty, ordid orry excue for an MP for the lovely town of Leominter, and a digrace to the county of Herefordhire
Od off you pee of it!
Pints of crème de menthe all round barman
Woaaaah, I’d forgotten about Creme de Menthe poured over REAL vanilla ice cream – yummyyyyyyyy
Dear All
Sir Peter Brown.
Well done that Tory.
Now that is what principled is all about.
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Another scoop for the Hereford Times. Is Mr Wall very tall or was the cameraperson standing in a pothole?
I have just listened to Frank Fields’ speeech in the commons on the 10p tax issue. He can be described as honourable, seeking to do his best for the least well off in society as he says. Very well articualted and very honestly put. Every one knows that at the time when Brown got up in the commons to annouce a 20p standard rate of tax, it was cynically designed just to outwit the tories, but at the expense of the very low paid in our society. Even now despite the climbdowns there are still, according to the IFS about 1.3 million low paid workers who will lose out. Frank has said that the no 10 bunker are spinning that if defeated it would mean the nuclear option. The pound would crash and we could not sell guilts and that after 6pm tonight the government would be unable to raise any more tax revenue! I nearly cried when john gummer intervened to say how humbled he was when the very low paid people come into his surgery to speak to him and even bill cash was very concerned too about the low paid workers; oh and the considerable budget deficit.
If labour had more honest intelligent and humble MP’s, who really are honourable, like frank field, then we certainly would not be in the mess that we are in now. Brown cynically exploited the very low paid to make political capital and it is coming back to haunt him. Just like most of his spending decisions are.
Frank’s about the only decent person left in NuLab.
He’s old school. A great guy, loyal to his Birkenhead
constituents.
Hear, hear!
Hear, hear, hear and thrice times more.
Mr Field is one of the very few who can be addressed as the honourable member, without placing one’s tongue in one’s cheek.
If he was honourable he would have done the decent thing long ago and swung the mace around a bit.
Spineless waster.
WAKEY-WAKEY SPASTICS THE LABOUR PARTY DIED TODAY1
LABOUR MPS VOTED IN FAVOUR OF DOUBLING THE TAX LIABILITY OF THE LOWEST PAID LABOUR WORKERS IN THE COUNTRY
THEREFORE LABOUR IS DEAD.
FUCK FRANK HE’S A C’UNT
DEAD DEAD DEAD
NO MORE
LABOUR PARTY REST IN HELL 7TH JULY 2009
THE LABOUR PARTY NO LONGER EXISTS FOR ANY OTHER REASON THAN FOR THE PERSONAL BENEFIT OF WAR CRIMINALS LIKE GORDON BROWN, JACK STRAW, ED BALLS, DAVID MILIBAND, ED MILIBAND, PETER MANDELSON DOUGLAS ALEXANDER, GEOFF HOON, MICHAEL MARTIN ETC ETC AND HIS WHORE WIFE
HANG THE C’UNTS!
JUST LIKE SADDAM HUSSEIN.
BUT THESE LABOUR C’UNTS HAVE KILLED FUCKING LOADS MORE PEOPLE THAN SADDAM INNIT!
it is time to take the law into our own hands for these c’unts have been taking the piss out of us, the good British people, for too long now.
If Frank was decent he’d resign the whip.
Hear hear. Very principled of Frank, not.
All I ever hear about Frank Field is how decent and principled he is. And indeed to listen to him talk or rather, read what he has to say, he does indeed seem to be a bit more awake than your average Labour lobby drone. But actions speak louder than words.
Apparently Labour MPs are being told that if this doubling of tax rate on the poorest paid doesn’t go through then the bond market will collapse. Which, if it is true, is as clear a fucking message that we are utterly fucked as you could hope to get. I don’t know how much doubling tax on the poor will raise but it can’t be a hell of a lot compared to a deficit of 200bn quid. So little by comparison in fact that I suggest that with or without this doubling in tax on the poor we are utterly fucked.
But still Frank doesn’t cross the floor.
Maybe he will if the yellow dogs of Labour vote for this insane measure. They are just handing headlines to the Tories.
Can you imagine Cameron ‘I will take no lectures on poverty from a man who doubled the tax on the poorest members of society….’ etc etc etc.
If Brown’s budget is really so fucked that he needs that money then the IMF must be closer than we thought. To hell with printing money till next June he (Brown) might not be able to print it for this month.
Amazing that there’s only one Labour MP who people give any credence to. Can’t think of a single Tory though, or Limp Dumb.
1/646 FFS!
But what would Frank gain by crossing the floor? New con is just as crooked as New Lab.
We need a third way (No not the wishy washy Liberals) A party of honest people who will not sell their souls to a crooked system of government.
A third way? What are you on about shitferbrains?
Crossing the floor doesn’t mean he joins the Tories. He just leaves this evil government. He could stand as an independent and, if as seems the case, his constituents admire him so much they can re-elect him and he can rejoin the Labour party (like Livingston did) when it rids itself of the foul evil that has beset it this past decade.
Frank started as Tory I thought, in his youth. Some ‘cross the floor’ for their own benefit (like Bercow all but did); others on matter of principle or policy, which should always come above party.
Most just cross their fingers and hope.
They cross them behind their backs whenever they open their mouths.
SO WHY IS FRANK STILL A MEMBER OF ZANULIEBORE??
Sadly he and a tiny minority like him still believe in a dream that became a nightmare years ago – a ‘soft coup’ if you will….
A soft backbone.
I have the greatest respect for Frank Field , he has always done a good job and must wonder at times where parliment went wrong and lost its respectability.
Despite my reservations on speaker Bercow , he has so far shown some very useful skills and has some command of the chair and has not been punative in his calling of mps . i do not think removing homourable member is a good idea , one only has to look at the fist fight in the italian parliment a few months ago to realise calling by name leads to persoanlised sluring .
Although being thrown out of the house for putting one on ed balls may be worth it .
Peronally I’m all for a fist-fight in Parliament especially now it’s televised.
Frank’s a decent, clever bloke but he blotted his copybook with the labour left by suggesting – horror of horrors – that the long term unemployed be encouraged to, er, actually do some work.
“Thinking the unthinkable” as he was asked to do, earned him the sack and the hatred of the marxists in his party. It is widely rumoured that Snotty, as chancellor, was one of those most against Frank’s welfare reforms.
If they work, they’d have to pay taxes and if they pay taxes they’ll start voting tory.
I’d rather pay more tax to make sure none of the three parties ever graced parliament with their presence ever again.
Stick that in your weird pipe thing Maqboul al Aboula.
If defeat is so disastrous, the Government does have the option to change its policy.
The Government has more to lose than Labour MPs if it is defeated.
By the way, the prospect of an early election and a Conservative victory is all that is holding the Bond market UP.
Who would have thought that a Labour government would shit on the poor to save its worthless neck?
Having pondered this a while because at face value there is no sense in this, I have come to realise that those who pay the 10p tax (or did pay rather) are those who actually work for a living and are prepared to take low pay jobs to maintain their self respect, and survive without going to the state cap in hand. Such people are NOT natural Labour supporters and it seems to me that as far as Brown’s evil government is concerned they can go and hang themseles.
That is about the strength of it. They are the working poor. The ones with self respect. Natural Tory voters.
Not to be confused with the welfared poor [the hosts] and their myriad over-paid middle class, bedwetting nanny minders [the parasites] that form the Labour core vote. Labour’s problem is that the same poverty of ambition that sees their core vote happy to be patronised by class-war soundbites about how their poverty is all the fault of evil Tories keeping them down means that their core vote is also very susceptible to even simpler messages. Those of the B&P fer example.
You don’t have a job because that immigrant took it.
That’s a message even a Labour voter can understand. Even if he never had a job in 1997 before 3 or 4 million extra immigrants showed up.
Yeah! That’s why I ain’t got a job! It’s not because I’m a thick, idle fuck. It’s not ‘cos the Tories are deliberately exploiting me and keeping me ‘down’. No. I can see these 3 million immigrants getting jobs. The jobs are there. It’s just that this government prefers to give the jobs to immigrants.
No wonder Labour is losing votes hand over fist in its traditional brain-fucked heartlands.
Moley – What would the bond market do if the B&P got a good look in at the election?
I think the impact would probably be negative because it would be indicative of extremes and instability, and might reduce the new Government’s working majority, and its ability to cut Government spending.
I have a great deal of sympathy with the Labour voters who feel so utterly betrayed that they voted for the party that must not be named. That betrayal has to be addressed, but by whom?
For me; I have read my history books and do not want to see our Country take the same route as Germany in the 1930s.
I though printing as much imaginary money as necessary and buying the Bonds with imaginary money was what was keeping the Bond market up.
Re Wiggin.
Holding an open meeting then sending round an email to party activists to come and pack it, then vetting the door to make sure non-activists are kept out. What were they trying to hide? Cameron said new era of openness – what’s his reaction to this same old dirty politics?
‘YouLube if you want to CMD’ should video it and stick it somewhere. Up that useless fucker Osborne’s arse.
Mr Catesby, jolly good.
Were there any receipts for taxis ? I can check the drivers’ names in my anthology if you like.
That Wiggin meeting – I have good ears, here’s the full transcript:
Doorman (local Tory Councillor Brig P Jones)”It’s completely full”
Tory activist: “But we got Bill’s email to come down”
Doorman: “Jolly nice!” (Hurries them in. Members of public try to get in)
Doorman (Shutting them out): “Sorry but unless you’re specifically invited by Bill, I can’t let you in!”
New, clean politics, Mr Cameron? Your chum Bill doesn’t think so…
Cameron is a useless shitty upstart in a useless shitty party. Too wedded to and linked with the current shite to make any difference whatsoever. Smoke and mirrors.
They take you for the fools you are, well done them.
Fuggin Eton hoons. Whaddya expect? Wait till wonderboy Osborne gets his hands on the cash too. Fuggin ell, it’ll be worse than the hoons already in power.
You’ve been sat at your PC all evening?
good finance bill debate on ch81 at the moment. Sally Keeble L Northampton North has just made a fool of herself. Wimmin, wimmin, wimmin. Jeremy Browne the Lib Dem treasury spokesman is doing a good job. Oh christ Bill Cash is on his feet.
When’s Ed Balls’ expenses meeting?
When do all 646 fuck off? That’s the main event.
After the General Election.
o/t but it seems that labour are claiming that if the rebellion goes ahead and they lose the vote on 10p tax then they will not be able to collect income taxatter 6pm today and will have to pay back everything back to April.
This really is a new low of madness from team bonkers. Either it is lies or theybare totally incompetent for not having a plan b!!
Exactly. Presumably if this bill does not pass then the entire tax system reverts back to the existing arrangements.
You know, like when the tried to get 90 day detention and had to settle for 42 day detention. If they’d failed at 42 day detention it didn’t mean we couldn’t detain anybody without charge. We had existing law in place.
Suppose the HoC burnt down last night and they couldn’t vote. Wouldthey have to give us all our tax back then? What a load of fucking shit.
Same with this.
Are the Labour party lobby fodder so fucking stupid they’d fall for that one?
We shall see.
Yes they are that fucking stupid.
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I ain’t run the clip but those voters are sooo angry , that Bill’s tryin to escape in The Tardis .
E x .
He arrived in it. You can get ‘em on expenses if you know the right Fees Office clerk.
Don’t you just love GF’s numbering system…… Bless……
Count your blessings that you’ve got a number. Look at those poor souls despatched to the basement…
I am not a number!
LMFAO !!!
Wouldn’t wanna be in the basement . I love spendin my evenin tryin to match the comment to the original replies .
I am slightly strange tho .
Later E x .
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I took your advice and changed my hair colour – still I’ve ended up in the basement!
Still it’s better than being modded!!
Sorry about that Nell, it was only a theory – now clearly disproved!
I think Guido adds some random words and phrases to his mod. filter from time to time, just to keep us guessing! The little tinker…
So I heard there were a bunch of wiggers rioting in China. Did they close the FUBU store or something?
It’s the fault of the fucking Muslims again! Nuke the bastards.
Old Georgie Galloway must not know whether he’s Arthur or Martha on this. His beloved Chinese commies oppressing those poor moozlims.
Excellent point he will be tying himself in knots on which is the lesser of two evils, or in his view which is the greater good. I hope his brain explodes.
you are definitely two marthas, you fucking rimmers.
get a room!
but being marthas you will have to call room service for a strap-on.
now strap-on and fuck off.
Aye. Right enough. And I’m off to Shanghai with the kids in a couple of weeks. (You can admire my well-crafted hotel review on Trip Advisor in due course.)
No doubt I’ll have the mother-in-law on the phone again advising me of the folly of my ways.
No point trying to explain that Urumqi is about 2,000 miles from Shanghai. If not more. She wants us all to wear fucking masks on the plane too. To avoid swine flu or something. I can get that in fucking Burgess Hill you daft bat.
But sure enough it’s the religion of peace in the fucking frame again.
You don’t see any Labour MPs agents resigning as a matter of principle. Well done to Sir Peter Brown.
Looks like Mr Wiggin has learned from Andrew MacKay’s experience here in Bracknell.
I attended MacKay’s meeting and it was a bloodbath. 80% – 90% of the meeting that was open to all constituents held in a very large hall (400 odd people were there I estimated) were against him and there were at least 2 people who filmed the whole thing (see the link).
Clearly Mr Wiggin saw what happened with MacKay and decided to pick a venue that was far too small and also to do his best to only let Conservative supporters in. The only footage of him seems to be of him making a statement. I bet MacKay wishes he had been able to rig his meeting like that now.
Wiggin should not be allowed to get away with this. He is clearly terrified of what will happen if he holds a proper public meeting. His hand should be forced. If he doesn’t then I suspect the voters in his constituency will do it for him come election time. Cameron must know this and should make him do it properly.
He will have to hold public meetings once he starts canvassing for the next election. They all will – no doubt they are hoping we will all have forgotten about this expenses issue.
I think they are wrong about that – and the worst offenders – who try to stand again – will find themselves rejected by the electorate.
I really hope that that is what happens to the balls duo. Does anyone know if they paid back any of their ill-gotten gains?
Djanogly may also fall into that category – though I suspect he’s not what one calls a ‘top trougher’ – he did claim for automatic gates and apparently an au pair amongst other things and has now agreed to pay back £25,000.
For those of us who have to cope without such frivolities, even though life is sometimes difficult, we will find it hard to vote for such people regardless of our political preferences. The public – us – will have the last say here in 2010.
Cameron is a master of public relations. In general he has outflanked Brown in every skirmish in the expenses crisis and is now reaping his reward.
That said, I question the effectiveness of the constituency meeting in Cameron’s disciplinary process. It’s structure and purpose is too loosely defined. Is it a quasi judicial process or a public relations exercise? This lack of definition exposes the meeting to manipulation by the media and rival political parties. It potentially rewards slick meeting management over a proper determination of the facts and issues.
Cameron needs to change and define his requirements. MPs who are required to establish the acceptability of their expenses to their local parties should:
1. Submit a written justification of their expense claims and subsequent ‘corrective actions’ to all paid up Conservative Party constituency members;
2. Attend a private meeting of such constituents within a month of the letter being sent out;
3. Allow their constituency party officials to conduct a postal ballot of their members after the meeting.
The local party should then confirm or withdraw selection. They need not be bound by the ballot but they must be required to publish the aggregrate results and justify their selection decision if it is in conflict with the ballot result.
Cameron may lose a few close allies, but then our graveyards are full of indispensable politicians.
Can they just all go away and leave us alone? We’re sick of the lot of them.
End of.
As every Prime Minister before gordon has found. No-one is indispensible.
Hopefully Cameron will find out that the British electorate is not as fickle as he is.
He will. You may need to wait 10 to 15 years though.
Ten to fifteen years might be just long enough to turn the economy round. Cameron might not be Mr Popular at the end of it, though.
“The only footage of him seems to be of him making a statement.”
Yes, he refused to let the press in, even the local pro-Conservative ones.
Ah our old friend Mr M again. You’re not so anonymous these days.
One day Labour’s winning.
Then the Tories edge ahead.
I don’t know which is wickeder,
I just know honour’s dead.
OK OK OK I know I just want it on my mobile as a Screen saver.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8138956.stm
About the Hereford Times story about Wiggin though:-
1. That meeting was many weeks ago
2. I believe there was a subsequent meeting later and
3. If seats like this one go LibDem the only one to laugh will be Mandy and Willy..sorry Gordon.
Guido, I’m not sure who fed you this clip but you will find the HT are in a ratings war with the Hereford Journal who the locals prefer because its independant, is free and comes out a day earlier than the HT. Not exactly “news” either.
And I’m guessing you’d rather be paid for advertising!!!!
p.s. Hope the babes are now all fit and thriving.
“2. I believe there was a subsequent meeting later ”
No.
There wasn’t.
Just this stage managed one
Mr M again….
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The labour party in the HOC has, tonight, said very clearly that they do NOT care too much for all those who lost out on the 10% to 20% tax rise.
So who does care any more? Shit, I’m not voting for the Lib/Lab/Con crowd any more, unless SOMEONE comes up with some good ideas for the country, instead of the party-politics-as-usual crap.
Brown, by perservering with his idiocy, has handed another million votes to other parties.
Isn’t it astonishing how 300 Labour MPs can allow one man’s ego to completely over-ride their principles.
Good, more power to the independents, B&P, loonies et al.
Can anyone honestly say that they would have made more of a mess of the country than the established parties have over the last 15 years?
Anyone but Gordon and his 646 cronies.
Could anybody have guessed that Brown would be more mendacious and duplicitous than Blair. And that both would have been more incompetent than John Major’s government?
Truly we have the most idiotic politicians in the Western world.
But if anybody has an eye to the history books – here’s one for ya….
It started in Fife. East Fife.
The decline of global British influence can be traced back to Britain’s disasterous decision to get involved in WWI. A government Lead by H.H. Asquith. MP for East Fife.
It’s relegation to third world status was confirmed almost 100 years later by a government lead by J. G. Brown. MP for Kirkcaldy. In fucking East Fife.
The best parallel we can hope for is that the Labour party of Brown goes the same way as the Liberal party of Asquith. A century on the naughty step.
Don’t let any c u n t tell you it started in America.
Well spotted and I believe you are on the money. Labour is in it’s ghastly death throes and none of the half-wits in the party can acknowledge the fact. They may very well go the way of the Squiffy Liberals at least one can hope.
Did you know Tesco sell large white baps?
Oldrightie was very much involved at this meeting and with The NHCA, in an official capacity. First of all the guy talking about “personal invitations” was a self-important, pompous, non official, ass. There were many problems surrounding this “event” and it was, at times, shambolic. Nevertheless,Bill Wiggin did not have a phantom mortgage and was not in any shape or form out of order with regard to his expenses claims. If mob rule were to become fashionable a lot of innocent and a few guilty, would suffer. I was not asked to assist or be involved directly on this day. I am rather pleased that the shambles was not down to me!
O/T sorry.
Frank Fields lost his vote in the commons over compensation for the approx 500,000 households disadvantaged over the 10p tax rate then? gordon as always refused to listen.
It appears that gordon doesn’t care about the next general election – it’s almost as though he knows he’s going to lose and that he already has a job guaranteed somewhere else.
On the subject of djanogly – he’s also a practising solicitor so presumably he’s not too bothered if he doesn’t get re-elected.
I’m just sorry that john major’s huntingdon constituency has come to this.
Huntingdon, of course, was also Cromwell’s stamping ground.
Isn’t he also heir to (what is left of) the Coats Viyella textile empire? I wouldn’t be surprised if he could ‘retire’ tomorrow without financial hardship. That just makes his relatively mild troughing the more reprehensible. He’ll survive though: there is not much incentive to ditch him when he enjoys a 12,000 plus majority. Politics is the art of the possible.
There’s one lame loser writing most of the posts on this topic, the same mug who pasted together bits of the film, out of context, to make it look dodgy. Ever seen the inside of a courtroom, Mr?
According to Peter Hitchens, the Bill Wiggin ‘Open Meeting’ model may have been based on a template devised by his party leader:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1186956/Q-Are-worth-30m-David-A-Sam-spent-Peter-Hitchens-sees-Tory-leader-confront-loyal-opposition.html
Cameron’s ‘Open Meeting’ was on May26th, his chum Wiggin’s a day later.
Coincidence or concerted ploy?
But you’re not really Mr Catesby are you?
Not the actual Robert Catesby who assisted Guido Fawkes to attempt the assassination of King James 1st.
No.
You appear to have ‘got’ me.
Yes??
No work that one out!
I expect you like crosswords…
Well, I should hope you’re not planning an assasination? I would stick to the work of Mr Pepys.
Assisted? He set up a Spanish mercenary to take all the risk and then legged it, leaving him to be hung drawn and quartered!
What goes around, comes around.
Oh, 1665, I was there.
What me too?
To allay communal ‘terrorism’ fears on the anniverary of the 7th July attacks on London I am happy to confirm that, no, I am not the ACTUAL Robert Catesby, close confederate of Guido Fawkes!
However, as a radical Catholic I do believe that the Pope should get some lawyers on the ‘Reparations’ case and file for the return of Catholic real estate (Westminster Abbey, Canterbury Cathedral etc) illegally seized without agreement or recompense. This could then bankrupt the British state and allow us all to rebuild our society from the bottom up! Aah…
Am going to Bill Wiggin’s constituency soon for The Big Chill. In other words:
I’m WIGGIN’ OUT!
ARE YOU?
Before reading “between the lines”, it may have been better to read to their end. The letter requests an effective notice date of July 31 2009 with a departure at the end of October. Sir Peter Brown was due to retire in August 2010 and he states the reason for his early resignation, after 42 years of service, as being on the grounds of poor health.
Before giving a Christine Keeler response, you should note that Brown has rebutted speculation on alternative reasons for his resignation by stating:
“Jonathan [Djanogly] is a hard working MP with tremendous support in the constituency. I will work to see the re-election of our local Conservative MP at the forthcoming General Election.”
I guess he just wants to hand over to younger blood in time for the General Election.
Djanogly still of course has questions to answer at his constituency meeting. His sins were to claim almost £27,000 of gardening expenses and a further £5,000 for “security gates”. He has already repaid £25,000 by agreement with Cameron.
I live very close to Huntingdon, and therefore quite close to where Djanogly lives, and have seen/heared the awful things some “animal protesters” have done to executives of the Huntingdon Research firm they think should be closed down.
I don’t think the money that MP claimed for security gates was unreasonable.
He probably WAS a target by these misguided idiots, so had to protect his family.
Not sure about some of his other expense claims though !!!
test is this still alive?
“As soon as it was corrected i put it right”, What a fuckwit ,this is on a par with Gordons “capital spending will be rising by 0%”. I’m not from herefordshire but im afraid this man is as delusional about his own moral standards as our moron prime minister and I will be looking out for this man at the next general election and even though i have voted tory all my life, if he is still a tory candiate at that time then my vote will going to UKIP. There should no place in the tory party for MP’s who think us so dim that we will fall for this kind of bullshit.