LabourList : Balls Should Stop Lying About Cuts
When Ed Ball’s said he hardly knew “Mr McBride” how we all laughed, the Daily Telegraph’s then newly appointed chief political commentator, Ben Brogan, put the widely held view succintly: “liar liar, pants on fire”.
Balls is now disowning his “Tory Cuts, Labour Invests” strategy, briefing that the whole idea is down to that no good Shaun Woodward. Yet it was under his own name that a circular went out to Labour activists attacking Cameron as “Mr 10% Cuts”. When Fraser Nelson called Blinky a liar about Labour’s own cuts, Balls went bonkers, telling Nelson to withdraw the article and calling his Spectator editor, Matthew d’Ancona, to rant about the article.
God knows how he will respond to the LabourList article calling on him to drop ‘the dishonest “Tories cut, Labour invests” mantra‘. Written by Brian Barder, who has been a Labour Party member for half-a-century, it is hyper-critical of the Balls line of attack, calling it dishonest and ham-fisted:
Labour promises actually to increase government spending, appear both dishonest and, perhaps worse, obviously and simple-mindedly dishonest. This ham-fisted campaign is a tragedy for Labour… In … the disastrous circular, I suggested … the current line [is] depriving the government and the party of a different and much more positive line which would have the incidental advantages of being both truthful and credible…
Ouch. Ed Balls wrote for LabourList only last week about discrimination in the playground. He’ll be throwing his toys out of the pram this morning…
Balls is a cock of the lowest order. Fuck him and his nasty party.
Oh yes! I do, I do!
Cahunas
Somewhat o/t, but why hasn’t anyone picked up on Brown’s increasingly desperate attempts to sell off nationalised bank assets (NRock, HBOS) before the election? Saint Cable says this will mean selling at a huge loss (worse than the gold sales fuck-up), and Brown is doing this solely to pre-empt post-election Conservative gains. Putting party before country, again. Gordon should be shot. Is there no true patriot willing to do the right thing?
What like this?
http://cityunslicker.blogspot.com/2009/07/tesco-begged-to-shaft-taxpayers-by.html
Yes – and more.
Why ring-fence foreign aid? We should be properly selfish, when we are strong we can be of even more help, but not when we are down, who is going to help us as we strive to be a third world country?
China
Like they help Tibet.
I assumed he was being Ironic
Please understand:
China is in answer to the question put ‘Why ring-fence foreign aid?’
The question ‘who is going to help us as we strive to be a third world country?’ was rhetorical and therefore not answered.
For what reason would China help us? There are a lot of old scores that any number of Countries could use not to help us.
Tesco have been doing clever, ruthless, profitable things successfully for so long that they may feel that they can take Northern Rock in their stride. So here’s some free advice to Terry Leahy: DO NOT BUY A BANK. A successful bank is a licence to print money. Therefore, nobody ever sells a bank unless it is a crock of total shite. If you are as experienced in banking as Bank Santander you might get away with it, but the odds are poor. Otherwise, do not touch it with an outsize metric barge-pole.
China did indeed help the Tibetans. Is there any dispute about that? They introduced pressure cookers for one thing, so food was properly sterlised during cooking. Of course the Lamas didn’t like it, but they weren’t shown lampposts and pianowire, merely ejected from the country, which is the solution I advocate for the zanu liebore clique of cuckoos. Shangri-la? Pull the other one, it’s got Tibetan bells on it.
China will not help the UK.
In its own interests the UK should maintain foreign aid because of China.
Got it?
Bloody hell I agree with Master Baiter!!
Now is not the time to piss China off.
Help won’t come from China but inactivity is nearly as good.
i am a bit busy got to sort those ausses out lad
Don’t worry Freddie, mate. We can look after ourselves. You just concentrate on getting to the team bus on time… ;-)
whos going to win lad the barmy army or those convicts
BARMY ARMY BARMY ARMY
balls up son of Brown
balls up son of Brown
Under the table you must go
oc-aye oc-aye, oc-aye, oc-aye-oh
If I catch you chewing
I’ll saw your balls right off
balls up, balls up
Never get the sleeze up
balls up son of Brown
Oh my, what a rotten mong
What a rotten mong
What a rotten mong
Oh my, what a rotten mong
And what a rotten minger
if he does sell then he is on a loser anyway as any rise in value will have everyone saying either…..
a) “obviously they are better out of government control so was it really the right thing to bring them under control – look how much the market values them at now”
or , and more damaging
b) why didn’t the hoon hold onto them for longer and get more of the country’s money back.
should help to destroy any economic credibility he has left.
What economic credibility did he ever have?
Selling our gold reserves when the price bottomed out was a masterstroke of financial genius for which he will ever be remembered.
Where do l sign, and l’ll donate any money thrown at me to charity
Glad to hear Missy Faulkes is on the mend
Balls will be on the phone to Labourlost demanding a redaction.
a minister has been called a lair surly not lad whatever next?
lair?
surly?
Hope you’re not on the pop again, Fred?
just done some training lad
Working on lifting that right arm isn’t “training”.
actully two pints one in each hand lad
That’s a drink problem isn’t it – two hands but only one mouth.
Balls’s mind set matches his face. He is obdurate , bullying and an accomplished disseminator of mendacity. Brown and he are well matched they will do anything to maintain their positions. The best weapon against liars is the truth, if Cameron can show himself to be “honourable” and above the lies ( people know cuts are coming and expect intact want them) then he will win the next GE. On the other hand Cameron has idiots like Osborne in his shadow cabinet and that looks a pretty tall task . Renewel the state is what is needed and who ever captures that ground will win.
An excellent exposition of the Conservitude message —— nonexistent.
Ps: I talk shit, its not rewarding, but it is all I have. Pity me, please.
This is not a phoney war. It is the Battle for Britain. “Never have so few caused so much to been owed by so many.” Truth will win, Master Baiter.
A face that launched a thousand shits.
MB (aka king wanker) I denounce you as being a nonce, a ponce and an onanist and a troll labour party boot licker. Now huck off back to your cell I command it,as I, along with any other ordinary joe, are your superiors. You will obey supine lickspittle.
New Balls Please.
“I HATE HIM”
Something’s bouncing.
Correct. He should come out and say that this government will cut spending by 20% and are therefore 100% better than the Tories but he is not competent to do so.
The Tory 10% cuts strategy adopted by Brown and Balls is perhaps the biggest political mistake they have ever made.
Everyone knew from the first time they uttered the words that it was unadulterated horse shit and it made them look idiotic as well as demonstrating clearly that they are simply bare faced liars who would do or say anything, no matter how dishonest, in order to cling onto power for its own sake.
As I posted on an earlier thread, the issue from that moment was not of cuts, 10% or otherwise, rather it is all about the honesty or otherwise of Brown.
“Labour promises actually to increase government spending, appear both dishonest and, perhaps worse, obviously and simple-mindedly dishonest. “
Bit fucking late for a 50-year ZaNuLabor activist to complain about the dishonest nature of their promises. Didn’t hear too much protest for the first 11 years of their misrule!
Are you saying the government didn’t increase public spending in the previous 11 years?
No he is saying they misruled for 11 years. Fair comment is that.
What?
Grimes, You’re thick.
Got it?
Did I say that the ‘government’ didn’t increase spending during their first 11 years of misrule, Mastur Bator?
I did not, ergo your dumb intervention renders you thicker. Pity your cat’s penis-like penis doesn’t match your obtuseness!
You quoted Barder
“Labour promises actually to increase government spending…”
Then you wrote that it was a bit late for him to complain about the government not keeping its promises.
Now in the English language, which may not be your mother tongue, and logically you were questioning whether or not the government kept its promise to increase government spending.
Your subsequent comments, especially the cat anatomy comment demonstrate to the world your weak cognitive ability.
You may go.
All repentant sinners welcome.
So this ‘government’s’ promise to spend evermore is the ONLY promise which they have lied to us about in the first 11 years of their reign, is it Mastur Bator? I said it was late to complain about ZaNuLieBor’s broken promises.
You added 2 and 2 and made 2, the size of your cat’s penis-like penis?
Now jerk off!
Please!
I think he doesn’t know how
I cannot imagine Ed Balls as Prime Minister.
God help the country if in some abyss style future he became PM & actually tried to commit British troops into action far away to further win the hearts & minds of foreigners.
I do not know a single politically aware professional soldier (there are more than you think) who would fight for that despicable little man.
173 of our finest have now died needlessly in Afghanistan – sent there with no political leadership, ill equipped & with no realistic chance of achieving anything except dying.
Like most of the military, I hate, loath & despise New Labour.
Ask them to return here and put this fucking government out of it’s misery.
Under the leadership of General Sir Michael David “Mike” Jackson GCB, CBE, DSO, DL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Genmikejackson.png
I’ll get the sweets and flowers ready to throw on the poorly protected Noddy cars they are supplied with.
Quite, they’d probably be safer in Volvos.
Army joke.
A soldier collecting supplies for his unit has the quartermaster tell him
” take that cardboard box and load 24 tins of assorted meats, for the use of, and a ball of string.”
“But what about our body armour?” asks the squaddie.
“You weren’t just going to throw the tins away were you lad?Flatten the cans and tyie them with string, then you can wear them. Keep two cans back and attach them together with the last of the string. That will be your main field communication system. The cardboard box is for the snatch LandRover. Put it under the seat and it will double your armour.”
Or vulvas?
relax mad fred, ed balls has got more chance of being assassinated than of becoming PM.
note to ed balls: oh what a tangled web you have woven you big fat sweaty lardy arsed liar.
you are dead meat.
Hello. Bob here. Sorry, but I was too busy doing important defence work to meet the repatriated bodies of our soldiers at RAF Lyneham today.
It was good too see everyone lining the streets to pay their respects.
Bob was probably to busy gluing his syrup on to pay his respects. The scumbag.
Well said Fred! Like most civilians, I watch the coffins returning from Afghanistan with tears in my eyes. And when I think of how the worst of this country has sent away its best – to fight in a pointless and unwinnable war – I feel nothing but rage.
And because of the utter trash which our government is willingly and deliberately allowing in to plot against and bomb us from inside the UK.
Soldiers become soldiers because they want to fight. We don’t have conscripts these days.
Are Ed Balls and Shaun Woodward actually Labour supporters? Or are they there just for the meal ticket?
Just restore my £600 p.m food allowance and I will leave you all alone.
*Struggles to get up out of comfy chair, moves tray of food off lap*
I think you just answered your own question.
They’re all there for the meal ticket, particularly S woodward, and the balls. S woodward is a traitor too.
“dishonest and ham-fisted”
unsurprising.
Presumably Balls will be outraged by the latter.
Balls talking bollocks as usual :-)
Does the strange Ladyboy wife have a pair?
She does have a pair. Not of tits mind you.
Two balls hanging out with a prick…says it all really
To be fair Oaf Guidorcs the ‘editor’ of Labour List also called for Gordon Brown’s resignation.
If you think Government spending has caused the recession, you’re mad.
If you think cutting government spending now will slow the recession you’re mad.
* ignored.
masterbater,
so borrowing money is the answer is it?
what about the servicing of the debt?
brown is cutting programmes to pay for the borrowing.
you are not very bright are you.
you are an enemy of the worker masterbater and will be dealt with accordingly.
bagsy I string masterbater up!
Temporary fake tat you’ll rub off with time.
Real tat’s a lot nastier …..in a spooky, psychopathic ssort of way…
Yes, this one’s more of a pussy tat.
this is the pre watershed thick as thieves.
after 7pm you will get the unredacted adult version.
oh and it is interesting to note that you have not responded to my point that gordon is cutting services to pay for the servicing of government debt.
get out of that one numbnuts.
So you start on the White Lightning and vodka at 7 eh? Bloody chavs.
Are you, Master baiter, paid by The Liebore Party to be a functionary of their lie machine or do you, in the belief that Labour is the only true way forward, do it out of the goodness of your heart ?
There isn’t an adult version of Thick as Thieves. Just a juvenile one.
Yep, truly an oxymoron with the emphasis on the last 2 syllables.
The Penguin
er, an adult version written by a juvenile.
so that means you two infantile cretins are not allowed to read it.
close, but no banana.
QED TaT is a twat
And yet the government is going to cut spending.
Why’s it doing that then?
It is not doing it now, before 2011.
Understanably it is counter intuitive but it is more expensive to cut spending in a recession.
The debate could more usefully be about where to spend and the efficiency of the spending.
The recession is the manifestation of the private sector seizing up as a result of the crisis in the financial system after the start of the credit crunch. There are many insolvent banks and financial institutions that must be cured or slaughtered.
Until that difficult task is carried out government spending is a form of life support and must be maintained or the consequences will be far worse.
When it comes to settling the bill for the credit orgy, who pays?
The old or the young
The rich or the poor
The weak or the strong
The sick or the fit
The government does not produce its own wealth – it takes it from the private sector. The more it takes, the more unlikely the private sector will recover, the longer the recession will last.
One in five works for the government. That is clearly unsustainable and obscene. Too many well paid non-jobs for the Labour cronies. The country has had enough.
The private sector has siezed up.
The financial system has full blown AIDS and is attacking itself.
Banks don’t trust each other, they cannot give each other credit.
Businesses can’t get credit and their customers can’t get credit.
Barter is very slow and inefficient.
Demand for goods and services has collapsed.
Capital is disintegrating.
Wakey, wakey!
But not so long ago, one of your leaders said “You cannot spend your way out of a recession” – was he talking Balls?
No it hasn’t. It just needs to be free of the total parasitic, duplictious, incompetent government that is Brown’s administration.
You’re beginning to drone like Charles Harwidge.
More scare mongering from the leftie minions.
I wont argue with you over the spending of various banks and the huge bonuses they engendered.
This was part 1 of the problem but this was both encouraged and overseen by the govt of the day. And the buck stops with them. They have and had the responsibilty for the financial system so they can blame noone but themselves.
Part 2 was how to react. A responsible govt that truely represented the people could have took the £500Bn pledged to financial sector, let all the failing banks go to the wall and lent directly to the people with no interest and long term no cost loans. This would have encourage the entrepreneurs, put money on the highstreet and given its people both esteem and belief, as well as doing away with the evil of usury.
Instead this money has gone into a black hole and the CDS balance has still not been acknowledged. So in effect all this bailout money has probably been wasted. Wasted in real terms but not by the socialists who now own the banks.
This would have been truely govt action of and for the people but like the good socialists/communists they are they want to control every aspect of our lives and thats why they want control of the money supply. Now they have it.
“give me control of a nations money supply and I care not who makes its laws…” Mayer Rothschild
Who pays? You are a stupid Hoon, aren’t you? Everyone who pays or has recently paid taxes has already paid. In case you didn’t notice, assuming you are a taxpayer, it was YOU that paid for Northern Rock, YOU that propped up RBS.
Elby it is hard to underestimate your intelligence.
The taxpayer will pay as usual. Just as a point of economic interest, Charles, taxpayers are leaving Britain at a rate of 1000 a month, and taking their money with them. How long before the whole country goes to the wall? You have all the answers, so you tell me.
Dr. Mick talks sense again. It’s about time somebody grasped the nettle, faced the elephant in the room, and got to grips with the problem. We have too many public sector workers. I don’t mean the lower paid ones, I mean the chiefs. There are too many well paid chiefs and not enough Indians. Of course newlabour have engineered this, they want plenty of sycophants. Give them above average pay, above average gold-plated pensions etc etc., create lots of them, and bingo! You have a ready made percentage of newlabour patsys. Perhaps the gorgon should set a good example and give himself a pay cut! Or even better resign! Today Gorgon is in France, buttering up President Sarkozy. Perhaps he could try a day in the saddle – Tour de France I mean! Fat Chance of that.
Do not forget MB likes to string together multiple statements and insults. Once analysed they are nothing but smoke and mirrors. Witness:
1. ‘The ‘editor’ of Labour List also called for Gordon Brown’s resignation’ -
Brian Barder also encouraged him to soldier on and Alex Smith called for his resignation about the time of the election results in June. Different circumstances. Still it serves to muddy the waters and disrupt the discussion
2. ‘If you think Government spending has caused the recession, you’re mad’ -
Guaranteed to get off subject and start a rant. However,that is not the subject under discussion. The issue is denial of the need to cut spending and who set out the strategy.
3.’If you think cutting government spending now will slow the recession you’re mad.’
Another angle using the same tactics. He knows the majority view on here already and this will provoke responses and break up the thread.
Again,this was not the original subject.
You will notice that MB works to a strategy:
1. Present theory as fact. sometimes quote tractor stats,usually nothing to do with the UK.Often challenge you to review the facts elsewhere -which often do not exist. Good for pissing you off though.
2. Make assumptions based on the original theory/concept
3. Theory magically becomes fact later in the post
4. Throw in an insult or two to wind up the audience. (either direct abuse or a provocative question about the conservatives)
And he does not do debate.
Third rate in my opinion but he does need taking to task.
Nicely put sir !
Very neat analysis of the tactics of a third rate troll.
You must have put in a lot of effort on that comment.
Do you take yourself seriously?
If so why?
It must take a lot of effort to maintain the facade of being four different people on this blog, Baiter. Why do you do it? Are you being paid?
Well put. If I were to guess who or what he is, given the above dissection, I would come up with Gordon Brown’s puckered arsehole.
Mick to Dog, that’s a rich assertion, show some courage, which four?
Plus, don’t forget that Master Baiter often reverts to hate speech and racism in order to incite a reaction; a couple of examples:
1) He has accused me of ‘Caribbean thinking’ – a depicable slur against people of West Indies ancestry.
2) He applies Irish name prefixes (e.g. O’Cameron) presumably to insult our host and to somehow denigrate as the target as ‘thick’.
As you point out, all tactics to disrupt the thread. A vile nasty little boy.
Yellow jersey to Dr. Mick!
I couldn’t have put this better myself. Absolutely tip top old boy.
If you think government spending now will slow the recession you’re mad.
If you think Government spending will stop the recession, you’re mad.
You don’t have to be mad to work here, but it helps.
Gordon Brown is not the Messiah he is a very naughty boy.
:-) missed you chronic
You’re too kind. Thanks for the easy ride.
The fact is simple – the bunch of money grabbing lunatics came in to power in 1997 – rubbing their sweaty hands together with the thought of all the money the Tories had built in reserves. And promtly spent the lot.
And when times were good – they borrowed even more and it never occurred to them to ask the question – “how do we pay it back”
So now times are bad – they borrow even more.
Any idiot who thinks that borrowing money with no way to pay it back is a clever fiscal strategy deserves the pain this country is going to face for the next decade.
However – for the rest of the country who have to suffer because of these idiots it is totally unfair. We should have them all in court.
Go back to the labour brain washing
You can delude yourself all you like in to thinkning all the troubles are the result of the government’s policies actions. They’re not. Whichever party or parties slime(s) in to power after the next general election the toxic fallout of the credit orgy will continue to rain down on everyone’s head. The problem is global, think on one point, General Motors, the once world’s largest corporation has gone bankrupt, been restructured and is owned and controlled by the US government. All your Reagan/Thatcher notsrums are just old hocum.
This crisis has only just begun.
“This crisis has only just begun” .
Totally agree MB.
Both Joe Biden and Alistair Darling are now effectively saying that their respective governments underestimated the global crisis and the reasons for it.
It started in the US Wall Street and was ably abetted in the City of London. The CDS originated in the US and were pushed in London by the US finance houses and the City links.
This crisis is far worse than any government is willing to admit and will take a lot longer and a lot more unemployment bfore it begins to settle out.
Or, according to UK government forecasts only a few months old, it has already finished.
Nice to see you were educated under labour party supervision with regard to spelling.
The rest of the country didn’t suffer. It and the rest of the world followed suit.
It is time to cut up the credit cards and slash spending.
We will have to travel through a long dark tunnel but there is a small chance of us seeing light at the end.
Start moving to partial self sufficiency, its addictive, environmentally responsible, saves so much money, which you can still save after the ‘Recession’ is over(?)
Fuck that! I’m not going anywhere near Mandlebum’s tookus, thanks!!
It doesn’t matter what our criminally inept govt. do. Despite liquidations, there are still astronomic amounts of unfounded derivatives floating around. The U.S. Comptroller of the Currency reckons $202 trillion in notional value derivatives, the Bank of International Settlements reckons $592 trillion. These are getting perilously close to going tits-up; California has more or less declared bankruptcy, and the global crisis looks like blowing up by around the end of the year. Hold on to your hats, kiddies.
It started in America.
It really did.
What started in America?
Rock’n'roll!
12 years of agitprop is becoming tedious. The only people who believe the spin are the Labour liars who are putting it about.
Normal people have had enough and it is time to cut this Brown/Balls cancer out before it is too late.
Please ignore my little boy, ever since he got that computer he has been annoying anyone who will listen, with his tales of his pin up Gordon Brown.
There a six or seven at his residential care home who have the same fawning adoration of the hapless gurning helmsman and his gang of murderous thieves, they sometimes come here as well.
You can recognise them easily by their ridiculous nicknames and puerile, sycophantic arguments, in favour of ZaNuLab PF.
Be aware, they can only type when their medication kicks in and then only remain barely coherent for more than half a post at a time, before their aggressive psychotic tendencies take over.
Just like the endlessly lying bully Gordon and his mini-me, Edogenous Bollocks, in fact.
Pay no attention to the woman above, some years ago she went on a Young Conservative outing, met some pimply Tory boys and has not been in communication with her son since.
Now that he has found fame and fortune thanks to a responsible upbringing, she is trying to muscle her way back in to his life.
Her son’s points are fair and well thought out.
The only counter arguments are put in the form of simple minded insults. He understands the pathology behind those people’s actions, and knows they will die out soon.
Only under labour can extended families live on benefits forever.
Be quiet the pair of you, I am a spotty pointless little cat’s willy, but I love Gordon and all his little wizards.
Ps: Ed Balls is a wanker, most of his own party think so!
I like clitties!
96 You HAVE a spotty pointless little cat’s willy, Mastur Bator.
NuLab have been running the economy in deficit since 2001, and you know what happens when you do that, (everyone together now!) … you build up a colossal national debt (£1.2Tr).
Darling’s 2009 budget stated borrowings of £175Bn (2009), £173Bn (2010), £140Bn (2011) and £118Bn (2012), so he no intention of running anything other then a deficit economy for the next few years.
And those figures got revised upwards (for 2009) by 20bn quid plus the very next day.
The figures are garbage. One thing we can be sure of though – they’re optimistic garbage. The reality will be much worse as it has with every budget deficit this bunch of clowns has ever ‘forecast’.
Every single budget this government has ever made is reverse engineered. They pick a point five years in the future at which point they declare spending will be under control and there will be no more deficits and then make up a Salvador Dali/Heath Robinson set of figures to ‘explain’ how they got those figures.
Meanwhile they spend as recklessly as they like.
Mervyn King has asked to see the (secret) treasury ‘models’ because their results show no comparison to the BoE figures.
Which is what got us here.
Mad Gordon, mad Alastair, Mad Ed, mad New Labour.
Mr Barber an honest man in Labour, must feel very lonely?
Sorry ‘ Mr Barder’.
Did someone mention my name ?
The Tories would be more than a bit worried if Ed and Gordon started to follow Mr Barber’s advice. I just wonder when Ed and Gordon lost their commonsense, or did they never have it? I feel insulted that they think we average voters are so stupid.
Correction: Mr Barder – hope you’re right this time Pete-s – I shouldn’t be a copycat.
0% rise
You MUST be joking!
Is Mrs Mini-Cooper Balls a beard?
No she a nulab hoon
The grubby little finger pointing yob.
I feel sick when I think that this man has such influence over how our children are taught. My god, has the world gone so mad that these people actually succeed in altering our lives and change our futures.
Truly sickening
LabourList has gone way downhill since Derek left. Don’t listen to them Mr. Balls!
Truth instead of scumbag smears and lies?
Yes that’s truly downhill for a socialist rag.
did it ever get up the hill one wonders?
I like you Charles you reminds me of the old man with the bag of string out side the spar in Holyhead shouting at lamp posts.
I’ve never been so insulted
Balls is typical of the labour bullies who have served time at the Treasury. They treat tax income as a right, and enjoy spending the money on whatever “Nishyatiffs” they can think up.
Incidentally, Balls or someone like him,was saying the other day that Tory cuts in capital spending would mean that no schools n’hospitals would be built. However, I thought that schools and hopsitals were all now promoted through PFI style schemes, that means their capital cost is not reflected on the government balance sheet – although their enormous running costs have to be counted in the current spending. May be Fraser Nelson could investigate these sorts of statements and shoot them down if necessary?
Soory, even I yawned slightly as I wrote that.
Whenever I hear “schools ‘n’ hospitals” I reach for my revolver.
Good boy Hermann
Balls gone into the rough?
Dear Jesus, here we go again. the right-wing nutters are opn the loose again.
Window-lickers of the world unite; you have nothing to loose but your marbles.
Bloody tories…
Fucking delicious!
hey FD what’s up my man!
FD and T
I was going to say, before I was so rudely interrupted:
Fucking Delicious, battle update: have been holding the fort against the windowlicking tory scum trolls. motherfuckers.
everything is in order for the handover, the tory trolls are on the fucking run.
let’s get stuck into these c’unts.
tally-ho!
Has it ever occurred to you that the words “lose” and “loose” are in fact not identical? If you ever opened a book this might not come as a surprise to you.
Fuck-off halfwit. If you are an example of the educated classes, I’l show my arse in the nearest shop window.
Fucking twat…
Fucking delicious!
At least ‘An English Speaker’ appears not to have been “educated” under New Labour. I mean to say, knowing the difference between ‘lose’ and ‘loose’ suggests a dgree of discrimination not normally found in New Labours LCD education system.
No respectable shop window would allow that kind of behavior. Control yourself.
Take that man’s name, tat
I beat up my wife y’know, then pour Iron Bru down my kids throats for kicks.
Irn Bru
Loose marbles, eh. Better not let the Greeks know their Elgin frieze is in peril!
“Change we need” Obama Saviour of the World.
“Dear Jesus, here we go again. the right-wing nutters are opn the loose again.
Window-lickers of the world unite; you have nothing to loose but your marbles.
Bloody tories…”
Dear God! Bliars, edewcation, ederkashon, educausation, strikes yet again.
Are all publicly educated socialists, illiterate morons?
The anxiety carved in to the badly botoxed faces at public school parents’ gatherings is a joy to behold.
The fear in their eyes says it all.
Every cloud has a silver lining.
I’m not surprised with a nonce like you eyeing up their children!
154 Silly question – of course they are!
I thought it was a pre-requisite to be able to tell bare faced lies to become an MP. The better and bigger the liar the better your career prospects.
And be a selfish gutless backstabbing coward.
But nulab are very poor liars. 0% rise! LOL
Brian Barder is talking rubbish. Like his dad, Douglas Barder, he hasn’t got a leg to stand on.
Shaun Woodward should be strung up and made an example of. It is because of hs defection and subsequent departure from Witney that call me Dave became an MP.
Apart from being “strung up”, he is already familiar with a “stitch-up”. Ask Marie Rimmer.
I still have fantasies of 5 Bellies. Like the plastic surgeon in California, I want to run my fantasy 4×4 on the fats I can extract from 5 Bellies by liposuction. In order to make this a sustainable and ecological proposition in the long term, I would have to keep it close to a trough with plenty of grub so it can replenish its losses during the week and my 4×4 can have its regular weekly fill-up on Saturdays. I am prepared to make any reasonable offer on e-bay if Mr Sticky Dicky Timney wants to revive the old English custom of auctioning the (your)(his) wife. Apart from that I can’t imagine any use for the woman.
It’s a bit like George Best and his five livers and three kidneys he had. Did he stop drinking? Only when he was asleep.
Not forgetting the onions, steak and pastry.
Not a nice man and obviously lost in his own backside. The contempt some of the Nulabour political class shows to the public is beyond belief. However as long as they are arguing amongst themselves…..first bit of good work Shaun Woodward has ever done stirring all this up..for the Tories that is. Alot more use than when he was actually in the party. Same goes for Quinten Davies too!!
Shaun Woodward is a Tory mole, he has been in deep cover for years, his role is to destroy NuLab from the the inside, and he is doing a great job.
When I first read of Woodward’s antics this weekend I was quite tempted to believe this!
Hear, hear. And Gordon thinks he is on his side!
Gordon is so delusional he’d believe any old tosh. But luckily Voldemort and Blinky have one ear each, and so poor Woodwind is in the cold.
The Penguin
Not at all! He’s a smarmy bastard in a suit! He doesn’t need the money even though he claimed enormous expenses. Why is he smarming up to the gorgon?
Could be he wants to go to the lords? Could be he unnaturally enjoys power? Could be he is enhancing his business interests, or could be he’s a nasty little shit!
OR could be he’s pressing the gorgon for favours towards his wife’s super market interests.
Did you know that LabourList is an anagram of ‘oral bi slut’, which, perhaps, was the title of one of the pay-per-view porn films Jacqui Smith tried rent for her husband, with our money.
What would you of said if the rerson was obese, or a montain climber?
I’d probably say “Oy podge , you’ll kill yourself if you try to climb that mountain”
Clean air for all.
The hundreds of millions spent by the Government on Anti-Smoking campaigns would have paid for many more operations.
The uncaring voice of the NHS.
Guido please remove this defamatory You Tube video.
Sems perfectly logical to me. If people are too moronically braindead to give up smoking, their early demise will raise the average IQ of the nation.
Pah. “Seems”.
Bloody keyboard…
I am not braindead by any stretch of the imagination but like the odd smoke. I would do just about anything, including said smoke, if it upsets Dawn Primarolo, Patricia Hewitt, Ben Bradshaw, Harriet Halfwit or any other similar nannying Labour bag. Incidentally the biggest smoker in Parliament must be Gordon Brown on the basis that his pants are a constant blaze.
Note your You Tube video has been rightly deleted!!
As a non smoker I think the ban on smoking in the work place has been an unqualified success. The help that the NHS has then given to people that then find themselves in a position to be ABLE to take action to stop smoking must be applauded.
Now it is another thing that we can continue to provide this but at least it has started a process of helping people.
Please provide the link to prove your figure of “hundreds of millions’
I bet you won’t be able to.
How many a day do you smoke to feel so strongly about this?
I don’t smoke but you dumb asses still never answered the question where the all the money that props the NHS up from smoking taxes will come from when everyone jacks smoking in.
I dont mind smokers cause they pay more than they take out over their lifespan and then they die early which means they aint taking out a state pension or using up any other services.
Smokers are contributers to the economy.
Typical lefties don’t understand joined up thinking and have no concept of the scales of money.
Don’t forget us drinkers!
It is a very good point that if people had to pay for some or all of their health care out of their own pockets, they would take more care of themselves.
Given the choice between carrying out a heart transplant on a smoker who refused to give up, or on a non smoker, or someone who had quit, how should the surgeon inform his choice?
With limited resources, there will always be someone at the bottom of the list.
What about the fat bastards at No. 10?
I do pay for my NHS treatment, it’s taken from my pay. The point is that a heavy smoker, drinker, or drug abuser will absorb a disproportionate amount of resources in making other people keep him healthy.
If it wasn’t for the tax revenue alcohol and tobacco would have been banned by this nanny state. Hypocrisy?
They have no hearts.
The Penguin
Clean air for all:
This is spent on marketing alone.
“Budget:
An annual budget of £43million was deployed for the marketing communications programme in 2008/9 with a similar level in 2009/10. The budget is broadly divided as follows: acquisition and lead generation, 17m; stakeholder activation, 2.5m; lead management and conversion 5m; product development, 1m; reinforcing motivation, 16m; evaluation, 1.5m.”
http://www.nsmcentre.org.uk/public/CSView.aspx?casestudy=103#top
Seems pretty small beer to me within the billions that is spent on the NHS as a whole.
How about answering the other question on whether you smoke the cancer sticks?
What have you got against the poor lady that is defending the rights of her patients over the undeserving smoker?
We all have to die, I think it is quite permissible for a doctor / surgeon to make a choice as to who he operates and allocates an organ to.
What do you think the doner would say if s/he knew his heart or any other organ was going to someone who was going to abuse it. They’re not getting any of mine that’s for sure.
Clean air for all says:-
“Note your You Tube video has been rightly deleted!!”
Nice try on Censorship but it didn’t work.
PS. Do you want any more costs of Smoking Cessation etc?
Must have been my computer!!
But it is defamatory and undeserving to be on this blog…. especially as you actually name the woman.
I don’t see where it is ‘whistleblowing’ in any event.
I am happy for Clean air for all to have clean air. That could have been achieved by mandating air conditioning units. Instead, thouands of pubs, restaurants and bingo halls have closed. Perhaps that has given you added comfort. If so, you should find the report WHO commissioned about the use of depleted uranium weapons in Iraq, which estimated the number of radioactive particles we here in the UK ended up breathing. When you read it, you will undertand why WHO never published it.
Clean air for all:-
Another example of wasting taxpayers money. I often wondered what the Government did with the £9Billion they collect on Tobacco Tax.
Page 7 Appendix 2 h.
” GPs and Pharmacies are reimbursed for service delivery (inflation still to be applied for 09-10):
£10.50 for each client setting a quit date.
£40 for each client still quit at 4-week follow-up
£10.50 for each client not quit at 4-week follow-up. No additional payment for those not followed up at 4 weeks.
Pharmacies only – £3 per supply of NRT. ”
http://www.warwickshire.nhs.uk/trustboardenclosures/march09/Enc%2016%20Tobacco%20Control%20and%20Smoking%20Cessation%20Board%20Report%20-%20March%202009.pdf
Clean air for all says:-
“What do you think the doner would say if s/he knew his heart or any other organ was going to someone who was going to abuse it. They’re not getting any of mine that’s for sure.”
What makes you think that smokers don’t donate hearts or any other organs?
They don’t donate their hearts / lungs etc because they are not suitable once they have been polluted.
216… so you think that smoking was saving the businesses that closed? Surely any well run business would survive and the ones that cannot adapt to market conditions would collapse in any event?
I have a family member who owns a pub, They simply created an outdoors smoking area, without patio heaters before some smart alex wants to point out. Trade actually went up, no doubt due to less thoughtful landlords not investing in a solution.
Bingo halls close due to Internet gambling becoming more accessible. Restaurants close because of crap service and menus not a smoking ban, Wetherspoons have increased revenues post smoking ban.
Quoting GP rates for succeeding in alloted tasks and expecting us to think it is a waste of money is crap too. Incentivising the people at the point of delivery when workload is large in any event clearly is a clever way to ensure that policy is enacted. I do agree that in the current climate that this could be revisited in order to save money. But that is thanks to the bankers not our hard working doctors etc .
Finally I am not an anti smoking nutter. I agree they should be allowed to ruin their lives if they want too. I just think that like the civil duty we all have to contribute to society by working and paying our fair share of taxes, we have a duty to not intentionally harm ourselves and place an undue pressure on our services. And that is not just the NHS it applies across all services.
This string started because I objected to a defamatory video being posted and someone being called a Nazi unnecessarily for pointing out some patient wasted two hearts when they could have gone to more deserving people. I just hope none of you get into that position and are waiting for surgery when some prat couldn’t give a toss.
Small point, but aren’t such rounds made of *depleted* uranium? That’s U238 with nearly all the valuable radioactive U235 removed. I don’t doubt for a second that oxidized 238 is foul stuff to have around the house, but radioactive?
As I recall, Hitler was a rabid anti-smoking nutter as well. Are you one of the Liverpool Schicklegrubers by any chance?
Fucking labour twat that you are…
Fucking delicious!
Clean air for all said:-
“They don’t donate their hearts / lungs etc because they are not suitable once they have been polluted.”
Where is the proof of that statement?
Mr Wrinklyhairyandslightlysweaty epitomises the worst of NuLab. They rose to power on the basis of spin and don’t know how else to govern.
So “Balls tells porkies” is hardly a drop the dead donkey moment in political journalism.
Now, a real scoop and a headline grabbing story would be “Balls tells the truth”
Hear, hear!
Mrs Ed Balls. The Prime Minister is calling you. You are needed urgently in the briefing. Apparently its a real emergency. Bring your mop and bucket.
I just love how Brown is so discredited that it’s not even worth going after him anymore and it’s all about son of Brown.
He’s clearly not in charge… like the last days of Breshnev.
There’s an unseemly scramble for power going on behind the scenes: Mandy, Balls, Woodward, Millibent all at it. Meanwhile the country is going down the pan while these clowns try to realise their ambitions.
The last days of Brezhnev were characterised by the fact that he remained in power whilst apparently dead.
Exactly the same as the current situation Moley! You would only see a “smile” like the Gorgon’s on a corpse, after all.
They can’t stop lying:
http://www.labour.org.uk/david_cameron_mr_10_per_cent?gclid=CNLw9JqewZsCFd0B4wod6zhdEg
Their addiction to lies and deceit is simply flabbergasting. Roll on the kicking at the ballot box and oblivion for Labour for generations.
Anyone know if the Whelk stall has closed yet?
‘The Sign Of Jonah’
I see Barder describes GB as the Prime inister : I wonder whether he left out an S !?
It’s good to see a rational response and counterarguement from the left as opposed to Brown’s”black is white”denial of the patently obvious.It still astonishes me that the Parliamentary Labour party first foisted this delusional plonker on us and have since kept him there even as he ruins both party and country.
“The not so caring voice of the NHS.”
So we have now plummeted the depths where we may be reliant on anti smoking zealots like Jane DeVille-Almond has the power of death over life-similar to Adolf Hitler! Holding senior positions in ‘charitable’ concerns it does not seem that this evil minded woman is very charitable at heart.
Who the hell does she think she is dictating how we should all live? If she wants to save the NHS money (which Nat. Ins Contributions supposedly cater for) then she wants to concentrate more on destroying things like MRSA-not smokers.
For a highly ‘respected’ (was) and ‘influential’ (perhaps not for much longer?) person to be allowed to trot out such verbal hatred to smokers there must be something seriously wrong with the mentality of non smokers. She should be sacked immediately and relieved from all charitable duties for she is nothing but a “hate mongerer” who feels that a certain minority should be eradicated from this earth.
All I can conclude is that this creature was aptly named. Almond-NUT!
If we had to pay for our health care “out of our own pockets” i.e. private health insurance, the insurers would make damned sure they knew how much you smoked or drank before quoting you a premium.
As we are now with the NHS a slim, fit, non-smoker who doesn’t drink can pay exactly the same in to the system as a fat, boozy, 60-a-day couch potato.
I can’t see why they bang on about who will spend how much. There is no fucking money!! They gave it all to the banks
They’re not spending money, but running up debts they cannot repay. Someone will have to honour commitments they are making but it will not be the Labour Party.
Sonnet: England in 2009
An old, mad, blind, despised, and dying king, –
Princes, the dregs of their dull race, who flow
Through public scorn, — mud from a muddy spring, –
Rulers who neither see, nor feel, nor know,
But leech-like to their fainting country cling,
Till they drop, blind in blood, without a blow, –
A people starved and stabbed in the untilled field, –
An army, which liberticide and prey
Makes as a two-edged sword to all who wield, –
Golden and sanguine laws which tempt and slay;
Religion Christless, Godless — a book sealed;
A Senate, — Time’s worst statute unrepealed, –
Are graves, from which a glorious Phantom may
Burst, to illumine our tempestous day.
If only Shelley hadn’t been such a total and absolute bastard. One can’t, though, deny that the lad could put words together.
Almost Wagnerian.
Blinkey is a total idiot, always the last to realise it, much in the same vein as Osborne.
A couple of well dodgy geezers that can’t stop digging.
Cuts are good! Gravy is bad!
Dave mate, let the monkeys run on the cuts thang its the road to nowhere daddy-oh!
Push harder, talk tougher, kick a quango and fuck a duck house whilst you’re at it!
I’m off to shoot some baby boomers with my pink AK47, bit of luck I might even get to nail some public sector workers too!
Fuck yeh!
Some people(?) regard Balls as a future leader of the Labour Party
The only Private sector job it is possible to imagine him in is Head of Customer Services for Ryanair.
I’d use him as ballast on an Airbus.
It would never get off the ground…
After the elections the Labour Parteh will be able to hold its meetings in a telephone box.
Bring it on!
Unfortunately thanks to years of indoctrination of impressionable children by the Tamil Labours you will find that 21% of the voters will still vote Labour.
What it would take for the scales to fall from their eyes I cannot imagine.
Well, yes, why not?
Either way a Tory victory is assured.
Balls taking over from Brown would be the best thing that could happen for the Tories. Of all the bunker occupants, Balls is the one that I suspect the public mistrust the most.
From his sneering “So what” to his school bully face and persona, this oaf has electoral disaster written all over him. Not to mention that fact that everything he touches seems to turn into a shambolic shower of shit.
The Jonah effect inheritance is surely his for the taking…
So please, let Balls rise up the greasy NuLabour pole.
It will be a pleasure watching the public give their verdict come election time, and wiping that oily grin off of his smirking, sniggering smug mug.
The Balls family are leaving politics to go into acting. He’s been offered the title role in a remake of Billy Bunter. His ladyboy civil partner will be Olive Oyl in the next Popeye film.
Slightly O/T…
New definition of “Newcastle”
Drop a bomb on Ed Balls
Think about it
That’s not O/T. It’s very sensible except for the possible fallout problem.
There’s a headline waiting to be born -
BROWN SMEARS – BALLS DROPPED
Brown cuts Balls.
Balls bounces back.
Brown sacks Balls
Balls “My terrible agony”
Brown ” I Yav ette Balls”
Balls in Hoon probe”
Off topic. Terror warning. Something must be brewing behind the scenes, given it is Brown’s standard diversionary tactic
Far right terror spectacular on the cards
The only violence so far has come from the antifascist league.
The link is a good one, the article is Guardian drivel. There is no substance whatever in the reported threat other than “Well it might happen”.
Police recommend employing more police just in case.
The impression is that the article is trying to put ideas into someone’s head and encourage them.
Or maybe somebody in Government is planning to stage an “event”, it wouldn’t be the first time.
Dahling! has already started it with the pay freeze er 0% increase
Balls lying about cuts, or Hoons, you know, his colleagues.
This is not what I submitted! Who altered it?
You’re new here, I can tell…..
The Penguin
A brief look at the vermin closest to our esteemed Prime Mental is ample indication of the nature of this excuse of a man.
The vile Mr and Mrs Balls, hate filled McBride, turn-coat Woodward, mortgage defrauding Little Lord Sodomite, and the bizarre Alexander siblings, although have you seen them in a room together? cos I aint
You forgot the Milipede brothers.
Why would you provide links to Labourlist? You’ll just dignify their smear and rebuttal operation with more ‘hits’.
Although the posts to the thread highlighted here have some base level of intelligence and debate to them, even those of the ZaNuLaBor supporters, which is most surprising!
Political genius he ain’t.
He’ll be throwing his toys out of the pram this morning…no Ballsup is a goernmet minister so will arrresred for throwing things out of his limousine, and fined £2500 for being a litter lout
As my granny used to say
“You can tell an awful lot about a man by way of looking at the company he keeps”
True then true now!
Blinkybollocks is just another nulab thug trying to steamroller his way to the top of the remains of the Labour Party. If and when he ever gets there it won’t make the slightest difference because the party has been roundly fucked up by the nulab apology for a government and is on its way to oblivion.
I don’t give a stuff what he says/does about anything. He’s an arsehole.
Balls is a bit of a funny one- he seems to be only interested in being in the Treasury or in No.10. He seems crushingly awful at thinking and talking about anything related to his supposed job in charge of all things to do with Children, so in any normal walk of life would have been moved away. Why doesn’t Brown sack him? Do they have some sort of bloke-ish bond that transcends normal boss/underling relationships? Lets call it Brow-lls or Br-alls. A bit like Camer-bourne on the other side. In think we should be told.