June 30th, 2009

Round II : Gloves Off

Tonight in the House of Parliament Grand Committee room Guido will be re-united with Nick Robinson and Michael White discussing the subject of ‘the internet: saviour or corruptor of democracy?’

It is being hosted by Danny Alexander MP, the rest of the panel iincludes Peter Kellner (YouGov), Grant Shapps MP (Shadow Minister for Housing).   The organisers say get there early if you want to get in…

Follow the debate (it’s running from 6.30pm today) and send in your questions and comments to the panel – before or during the debate using the Twitter hash tag #idebate.

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433 Comments

  1. 1
    Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

    Guido, could you do me a huge favour and give both Robinson and White a kick for me?

    Thanks.

    • 3
      Olaf says:

      Just give that pompous bag of shite White a kicking, Toenails can be reformed.

      • 10
        Be gone Gordon! says:

        The only thing Toenails can be reformed into is MDF – hopefully then covered in white paint and used as a splashback in a gents urinal – that way we all get to p*ss on him!

        • 394

          Save your p*ss for this bloke, his ashes will need something very strong to flush them away.

        • 410
          Master Baiter says:

          Geroge Osborne had his guts turned inside out on the news last night, bless.
          He couldn’t spin a washing machine.
          Keep it up he will be Labour’s best asset.

          Cor foo it’s hot!

      • 39
        Grex says:

        Reformed, like Aldi lamb cutlets?

    • 6
      Charles Flaccidwidger says:

      For all of us, I would have thought.

      • 21
        Afghanistan Banana Stand says:

        Indeed. You’re quite right.

        How selfish of me.

        It should be for all of us

        • 78
          Uri Geller says:

          Dont use that Hypno shit on me..

        • 157
          Dick the Prick says:

          You fucking bender

        • 240

          I used to have Mr Geller for a client.
          When attending a freebie event at a venue with more than its fair share of metalwork and aluminium poles a security guard would not let him in.
          Eventually the guard relented once Mr Geller had been vouched for but the guard poked him in the chest and said “OK. You can come in. But I’m gonna be watching you….And don’t bend anything”
          And just as the great hypnotist was almost out of earshot the guard added..
          “Or anyone..”

        • 299
          Dick the Prick says:

          Corridors of life.

    • 8
      Anonymous says:

      Will it be recorded? Please get someone with a camcorder to film it…

    • 14
      Popeye says:

      Lefty White will be on his usual apologists bent. Give him one for me please.

      • 24
        Shafting the Shafters says:

        Me too. Guido, punch him as hard as you can in the face and if you break his nose I’ll pay you 500 quid. But don’t do it for the money, do it for the People!

      • 72
        John Galt says:

        Guido

        Don’t forget the following.

        Enough Gun powder to actually do the job properly. Which in case you have forgotten, is to blow the whole lot of them to kingdom come. Maybe a smallish nuke may be more effective this time.

        Fuses that actually work. Possibly an electronic timing device. Homebase may have what you need. Although you won’t be needing a mobile phone where you are going to, so why not use that?

        Not to tell ANYONE, ( especially people you think you can 100% trust, they are always the worst type of treacherous bastards imaginable) what you are up to.

        A toothbrush, and enough dirty books to last you, the rest of your life. Which is very possibly only one.

        Then you can go about doing the vitally important job, that you so pitifully fucked up the last time.

        However if you are simply yet another unwitting/witting establishment stooge, like for example White and Robinson. Forget the last advice and simply ask your informants/handlers what you are supposed to say or do, as per usual.

    • 29
      Anonymous says:

      or send him a flying shoe or two!!!

    • 49
      Uncle Vanya De Caesaromagus says:

      “Macavity, Macavity, there’s no-one like Macavity,
      He’s broken every human law, he breaks the law of gravity,
      His powers of false accounting would make a conman stare
      And by the time the bill comes in – Macavity’s not there!
      You may seek him in the Upper House, or some St Andrew’s Chair,
      But when the rot’s discovered then Macavity’s not there!

      He’s outwardly respectable (they say he throws his phone),
      His cabinet increasingly consists of him alone,
      If public purse is is looted or the pension fund’s been rifled,
      Illegal wars are started and the nation’s voice is stifled,
      Economy is broken and the Commons past repair,
      Ay, there’s the wonder of the thing – Macavity’s not there!”

      Yeeehaaaaw!

    • 227
      thick as thieves says:

      saviour ofcourse.
      and anyone who says otherwise is gonna get their fucking head kicked in because
      I’M TOP BOY!

    • 273
      Aethelred says:

      Guido,

      I have to admit it would be nice to know you gave Robinson a thick lip. I can forgive White, he is private sector and is relatively intelligent. Not Robinson, he is a state-supplied-tax-payer-funded-government-lackey.

  2. 2
    Silence Won’t Defeat the B*N*P – Fraser Nelson says:

    Don’t forget to cover all your bases.

  3. 3
    Slap head bastards! says:

    Please can you just bang their NULav loving heads together a few times and see if you can join together enough brain cells to make a decent person?

  4. 5
    Throbber says:

    Saviour.

  5. 7
    Throbber says:

    Current Government and indeed parliament = Corrupter

    • 38
      Gooey Blob says:

      How true. Expenses, lying, cheating, going back on manifesto commitments – politicians, and in particular those in power right now, are pretty low. The blogosphere simply reflects what we, the electorate, really think of them.

      What’s more, if commentators fail to reflect that opinion, they will be tarnished too. Robinson, White, Toynbee et al take note.

      • 60
        Throbber says:

        Oh and I forgot – MSM = corrupting

        • 164
          Nathaniel de Lickschild says:

          Just don’t buy papers and laugh at the telly tax man – it really does help laughing and saying ‘can’t help you mate’. If some tosser turns up at your door and says ‘is it xxxx?’ then yer spider sense should tingle – ffffffuck aff.

  6. 9
    Anonymous says:

    Please bring up Ed Balls’ lies and how they were exposed by Fraser Nelson.

    Bring up the appalling scrutiny on Nick Robinson’s blog.

    Bring up Nick Robinson’s pathetic self-justifying whining on his R4 programme this week.

    • 17
      righty right wing (Mrs) says:

      Bang on.

      His defence of Darling via “un-named sources” who Toenails won’t name yet again was a disgrace.

      He made that bit up about “a friend of Darlings” called him.

      Toenails cannot be reformed or re-edukated. he is Neo Labours man down to his toenails.

      • 31

        Anyone can be re-educated. It just takes the right motivation.
        Like a 12v battery and a bowl of water and some jump leads. Toenails will soon come round.
        Mr White may need something more. Sharks with laser beams strapped to their heads?

    • 50
      Throbber says:

      I see Balls’ latest idea is Licences for Teachers. For fucks sake is there nothing these people cannot interfere with and complicate. What a total waste of time, adding more levels of red tape, form filling and hoop jumping to every thing in our lives. All it will do is cost more money and allow them to employ a bunch more licence facilitators at hugely inflated salaries.
      What’s wrong with putting in place a simple facility? … if a teacher is shit, the headmaster can fire her.
      Or even better privatise all schools.

      • 86
        Dack Blog says:

        Or fire ‘him’ of course. That’s if the head isn’t a thick Liebore spouting c*nt like the one at my school. You’re assuming that those who clamber the greasy pole in schools are good at the job (and worth their disproportionate pay packets). Mostly they couldn’t hack it in the classroom, couldn’t be fired, so were ‘promoted’ out of harm’s way to dabble with data and targets. Now they’re being giving enough power to do a fuck load of harm. All the good teachers I know (not all are good – I wouldn’t defend the chaff) want to stay in the classroom. But they’re dropping out of teaching like flies.

        • 126
          Mr Squeers says:

          This is true.
          Promotion in teaching is so very often to do with poor classroom performance/can’t be removed so a move upwards, and knowing the right glib jargon of the day to spout.

      • 87
        Dack Blog says:

        Or ‘headmistress’ of course.

        • 96
          Throbber says:

          I used the term ‘her’ intentionally as there are almost no men left as teachers in state education. Headmaster on the other hand I intended to be gender neutral – remiss of me I know, bit I was educated in pre PC times.

        • 99
          Dack Blog says:

          It’s about 50-50 where I am. 16-18 though – you’re probably right about primary.

        • 106
          sheep says:

          Actually I meant 11-18. Teaching 16-18 is soul-destroying, as 90% of them haven’t the brains to be there.

        • 107
          Dack Blog says:

          Oops! That was me (I was just finishing off sheep’s comment at 99).

        • 113
          Throbber says:

          That’s another good Gordo/Balls idea – keep kids in school till they are 18 in order to reduce the unemployment statistics. 80% of those kids certainly have no desire to be there never mind the brains.
          Of course these kids will make it so much better for the kids that actually want to be there.
          Another controlling, interfering policy that does nothing but damage.

        • 116
          Dack Blog says:

          Balls is on C4 news now – he’s just changed the 1-2-1 tuition ‘promise’ to ’small groups’. We have so many challenging/SEN kids in my school there’s already not enough cash to give them the support they need (most going on managing ‘behaviour’ rather than SEN as we can’t expel kids anymore – in fact they’ve just made it more difficult to suspend them). Plua he’s defending PFI – two (relatively successful) schools in my area are on their knees financially thanks to PFI f*ck-ups.

        • 125
          Engineer says:

          Out of interest (and because it is quite important in it’s way) my spies in the world of education tell me that there is more than enough money sloshing around the system to increase staff/pupil ratio if Government wanted to. That’s hearsay – you’re closer to it than most, by the sounds of it – what’s your take on this?

        • 128
          Dack Blog says:

          I’ve no idea. I’m front-line staff. All I know is my classes are getting bigger. Even if we could afford more teachers – the only jobs my place seems to be creating are management posts – we’d need to build a new wing as we haven’t the space for more classes. The schools (through PFI as mentioned above) that have expanded went way over budget and ended up with inadequate space/shite quality buildings. Seemingly there’s no control and no redress.

        • 148
          Engineer says:

          Wonder where all the money goes between Whitehall and the front line?

          Sounds a bit dispiriting, Dack, but please keep going. My profession needs good recruits, and I’m sure others do too. There’s no room for numpties in industry these days, we’ve got to compete on the world market, and there’s stiff competition. We need self-motivated people who can cope with writing accurate, concise, precise reports and have the mathematical ability to cope with complexity without fear; and capable of learning to think for themselves. I have not the faintest doubt that’s what you and your colleagues are aiming to turn out, but how easy is it to do?

        • 178
          Dack Blog says:

          It’s like bailing water from a sinking ship. (Still prefer it to my easy money previous careers though).

        • 181
          Dack Blog says:

          I did start a long reply, but could have gone on forever. Lots of things are to ‘blame’. The thing that bothers me most is the ignorant chorus of the whole crock of shite being down to the likes of me.

        • 186
          Engineer says:

          You’re not alone there, Dack. Everyone on front lines everywhere feels that – I know I did in my previous existence in a large company.

          Funnily enough, I changed direction too. Self-employed now; no sinecure, but I’m much happier.

          Good luck and keep going!!

        • 241
          thick as thieves says:

          for fucks sake.
          chatter chatter chatter……
          note to the above tory cripples: the clock is ticking, the fuse is burning.
          but all you do is chatter your nonsense about dead men walking.
          ah! that is because you don’t want to talk about the man you are backing to become the next PM.
          so it is left to me then to talk about david.
          david cameron is nothing more than a silver tongued wanker just like blair.
          as soon as he became an MP the selfish pig was snorting up his piggy trout the maximum amount of allowances possible.
          what a filthy money grubbing c’unt.
          the truth of the matter is this: the housing benefit scrounger david cameron and his shady beneft scrounging mate, gideon snortalot, the man who begs money from russian villains, are simply not fit to lead this country.
          so let us address the real question: who will replace david cameron as the leader of the real conservative party?
          better hurry up you wankers.
          tick tock tick tock
          BOOM!

          VOTE INDEPENDENT – TELL DAVE AND GORDON TO FUCK OFF! C’UNTS!

        • 247
          Dack Blog says:

          I’m not a Tory. I’ve never voted Tory. Nor Labour. Nor New Labour. Nor LibDem.

        • 292
          thick as thieves says:

          so who have you voted for dack blog?
          I already know.
          but go on you coward, tell the reader who you vote for.
          this will be fun because dack blog is such a gobby c’unt and now he will go all quiet and disappear.
          hee hee.

        • 321
          Atlas shrugged says:

          Who will replace Cameron?

          Well if you really want an answer then I would have thought the person in question was at least an odds on bet.

          We have spent/wasted the last 12 years being told about a supposed split between Blairites and Brownites. We spent the preceding 18 years hearing daily about wets and drys. No such split ever actually existed, other then in the minds of the press and other forms of establishment corrupted pond weed, like for example The BBC.

          Even if it had in some small personal type manner, the reality is that the policies that were actually carried out would have been almost exactly the same anyway. This because ‘important’ policies are set well in advance by establishment elites, not members of political party’s or members of parliament. ( please note I mean IMPORTANT long term policies that are actually enacted, not the ones that are talked about within the party structure, or subsequently abolished by the next incoming DICTATORSHIP )

          It seems obvious to me therefore that Camerons replacement will be David Davis, possibly before Cameron has completed his first term.

          He will be presented as a sort of libertarian type replacement, however his military connections and covert authoritarian colours will come in very handy when the very much planned, and horrendously violent shit truly hits the fan, in about 2-3 years time.

          The Conservative Party’s job in government has basically been just three things. The first is to find the cash to pay back the bansters. The second is to preserve LAW and ORDER while doing so. The third is to perpetually act as a method of marginalizing and repressing true conservatives and of course genuine conservatism.

          The Labour Party also has basically three jobs . The first is to as permanently as possible, fuck up just about everything it can manage to get its grubby hands on. The second of course is working entirely for the self same banksters the Conservative Party have always worked for, by borrowing cash with interest, like tomorrow will never come. The third is to lie all of the time about the true purpose of socialism, and all of the nasty authoritarian property rights destroying reality it has always represented in practice. Therefore marginalizing and repressing the self named ‘nice’ people of our society.

          As anyone still in ownership a free mind, over the age of 50, must surly have worked out for themselves by now.

          If not try reading a book for a change, especially one on modern history, while reading between the lines somewhat. Seeing reality as it really is, is not impossible, not even for someone with a PHD in history.

          Please be reminded that in our so called democratic system, our establishment selected PM is in effect a SELECTED dictator. With the added benefit of being able to get himself unelected when the heat is finally on. However bad the last PM has clearly been, the new one comes in all ‘happy-clappy’ holding a largely clean slate. So can go about fucking the few remaining butt holes that the last bunch of criminals had not quite got around to screwing the shit out off, with relative impunity.

          Hope springs eternal, with most people, bless-um. Therefore in a dialectic democracy the most incredibly nasty things can and often do happen, without any realistic chance of a REAL bottom-up revolution ever taking place. Hitler was after all ELECTED into absolute power over the destiny of the German speaking people. I surly do not have to remind anyone, what an incredibly horrific fuck-up he made of that little bankster financed and sponsored assignment.

          Sorry for the lack of brevity, but some things just cant be said in just one short paragraph.

        • 430
          Dack Blog says:

          @ TaT… for candidates not parties. And for the record it’s ’she’. Takes a gobby c*nt to know one.

      • 364
        I am Sick says:

        I disagree that it is a total waste of time.

        Mendacious fascists like Balls, probably envisage such a thing as an ideal method of control over exactly what is taught in the classroom and you can bet your last pound that political correctness and slavish devotion to all the governments thought control measures, would give a teacher higher ratings than an excellent teacher, who was “off message” or placed education over political tick boxes.

        Balls would rather sack ( unlicence ) a brilliant teacher, than allow the development of any independent thought among the future pupil slave class.

  7. 11
    The HoC has a fetid stink says:

    Take your smelling salts otherwise you’ll not be able to sit in the same room as those 2 cretins Right pair of hoons they are

  8. 12
    The PM shouldn't be disturbed but this cunt is says:

    Do the panellists believe right of centre political blogs would be quite so popular if the mainstream media particularly television, wasn’t so relentlessly liberal and left leaning?
    (With the extremely notable exception of his majesty Tom Bradbury of course)

    Also do the panel believe the Prime Minister is a misogynist, spendaholic, bullying, inadequate, smearing, lying Scotch Kunt?

    • 79
      Steve Expat says:

      That first question is really interesting. The television media in the country is all ptetty left-leaning, The BBC News department especially is seen as being biased towards the Labour goverment. I’m sure this is one of the reasons for the success of Tory bloggers such as Dale over their left-leaning competition.

      But what we want is for our media to be impartial, we don’t want Fox ‘News’ either.

      As for your second question, we all know the answer to that one!

      • 135
        Jumbo says:

        Think this is a painfully long, sultry and unbearable Summer evening? Well get some perspective and recall every day of the 1980s, three (then four) channels and the BBC news and associated broadcasts. The issue was the same in opposition as now: the poverty line an endless third rate and not-so-third-rate presenters with half-baked analysis presenting data on the poverty gap. Note also official academic studies of 2007 reporting NuLab poverty crimes WORST EVER (sorry, forgot I’m not writing for the Mail) are duly reversed by Ed Bollocks.

        That and a hundred and twelve other fucking DAD (dull as ditchwater) bogus rants, such as Thatch only won coz of the Falklands. UTTER CRAP. Christ I was angry then – and had to keep damned quiet at college FFS!

    • 84
      Dick Scratcher says:

      I agree Bradbury is a star performer. Accurate, fair and brave. Those wet farts at the Beeb should steal him when the Tories get in.

    • 98
      Engineer says:

      I’d give o thumbs up to Ed Stourton as well. The Beeb tried to silence him because of his impartiality; during the sussequent furore someone on the Telegraph blog wrote, “I had scarcely noticed Ed Stourton, which is very much to his credit”.

      • 138
        Jumbo says:

        Listen to the Toady programme now is like listening to Swap Shop in the 70s with the sound turned off: Meaningless pap

        • 140
          Jumbo says:

          Before you say it, I meant picture

        • 163
          Engineer says:

          Agreed, but I still think Ed’s the best of them. I haven’t a clue what his personal politics might be, which is more than can be said for the others.

        • 389
          barefootcontessa says:

          Unfortunately the lovely Ed is a catholic.

      • 217

        Front page of AlBBC!

        Nick Robinson
        Are the Tories being honest about what they will cut?

        BBC Biased? Is water wet?

        • 265
          Road_Hog says:

          Nick censorship Toenails, what else do you expect.

          He’ll be UB40 next year. I am the one in five.

        • 407
          bergen says:

          Toenail’s “have you stopped beating your wife?”style interview of Osborn was a new low for this Nulab chancer.Compare and contrast with his govt interviews where his nickname becomes apparent.Cameron must break up the BBC when in power.Not for nothing did it inspire the Ministry of Truth in 1984.

      • 223
        Peter Grimes says:

        Dunno about Stourton – too much under the influence of Humpty & Numptie on the Toady programme, but Eddie Mayer on PM is great. Always sounds incredulous when some lying politico (of whatever colour) tries to slip in their usual lies.

        Mayer is a perfect drive home accompaniment.

    • 283
      Aethelred says:

      “Do the panellists believe right of centre political blogs would be quite so popular if the mainstream media particularly television, wasn’t so relentlessly liberal and left leaning?”

      Your question and implied answer is quite correct IMHO. The “right-wing” blogs, by which is meant any blog which does not kow-tow to the government, have only gained support because of the overwhelming left-leaning of the BBC in particular.

      I am deeply saddened at the prostitution of the BBC to the left. It was once a model for the world, but sadly has become so corrupt it must now be destroyed.

      • 345

        The beneficiaries of extortion will always lean towards socialism.

        • 391
          barefootcontessa says:

          A pinch and a punch for the first of the month, and a good kick for newlabour.

      • 371
        The UK is being transformed into East Germany circa 1976 says:

        The Beeb is so far to the left that they probably imagine that the Lib Dims are right wingers.

        • 398
          Carlos Marcos says:

          What exactly is it that’s far left about the BBC?

          Any examples to back up your claim?

  9. 13
    The HoC has a fetid stink says:

    Oh & call them both liars…………please for the rest of us who live to far away

  10. 15
    Spin Doctor says:

    Don’t shake hands with Toenails…we’ve got a fair idea where his right hand has been!

  11. 16

    Harry Cohen should go now.

  12. 18
    The HoC has a fetid stink says:

    Above all shout over that cretin White whenever he opens his gob (he’s got now’t worth hearing anyway) After all he did that to you when you last appeared on telly with him

  13. 19
    "Building Britain's Future" says:

    Give the grovelling Commie shit what for, Guido!

  14. 20
    Swiss Bob says:

    Aren’t you going to record it? I’d like to listen to that webcast.

    I’m a bit slow on the Balls stuff but here’s Gove responding to Balls in Parliament today, he’s a twat but he makes Balls look like the cretin he is: Gove Gives Balls a Dose.

    and don’t forget stan: Summer with Stanislav, a memoir

    • 51
      Steve Expat says:

      Any chance of a live webcam Guido? There are not many things that people would PAY for online, but this would be on the list…

      • 248
        thick as thieves says:

        wow that’s amazing steve, you have internet connection in your cardboard box.
        now that’s progress steve.
        well done.
        for a tramp.
        all you have to do now is cut down on your moonshine consumption and then maybe you will be able to start planning to live in your own home again at some point in the future.
        you sad bastard steve.
        if you are the calibre of individual tory hq is sending on ops then a hung parliament will definitely be on the cards.

        • 272
          Steve Expat says:

          Ah, thick as shit returns! Unplesant troll of the year award 2009 nominee…

        • 279
          righty right wing (mrs) says:

          Yawn.

          You are Rik from the Yoing Ones & I claim my £5 – or £297 as it is now worth under Neo Liebore

          God dammit you are so boring.

        • 297
          thick as thieves says:

          I’ve already given your arse a good spanking mrs right far right, so don’t start getting all lippy with me you stupid old cow.
          for if you do then I will have to give you another good spanking.
          do you mind if I video it this time?

          steve,
          fuck off tramp.

        • 346

          Thick Ass Troll
          I really must request that you ask your GP about increasing your dosage of anti-psychotics.

        • 390
          Gordon-Makes-My-Piss-Boil says:

          TAT – you may want to invest in a home blood-pressure- monitoring kit. I fear you are near the edge (and not in a U2 sense).

  15. 22
    The Master says:

    Will Blinky be there? Now that would be funny especially if Fraser Nelson turned up!

  16. 23
    nell says:

    Well first of all – does Michael White know how to use a keyboard? – he looks as if he might still be wedded to an old imperial typewriter.

    Secondly, it sounds rather as though you are going into a den of thieves – and people who are economic with the truth ( robinson) , so hope you’ll be careful.

    Other than that I wish you all power to your elbow – I hope you manage to put it, on occasion, where it makes the most impact.

    • 26
      nell says:

      PS Late thought – hopefully that means you won’t be around to do any modding tonight!

      • 30
        Steve Expat says:

        IS that a good or a bad thing nell, after the stupid trolls on here the last couple of nights – I’m still trying to work out why c**r*ge is a keyword for the mod though??

        • 34
          Abolish the Licence Fee says:

          b*nkr*upt*y is too. But I can see the reason for that. It’s actionable under UK def*mation law to call someone it when they’re not. Guido’s censorship policy in general, though, is kinda odd.

        • 48
          Steve Expat says:

          Any terms to do with the l*gal profession are sent to the mod, that’s fair ‘cos he doesn’t want to be s**d – it’s inconsistent ‘cos he will add a rule when he seees something he doesn’t like (he used to get spammed by the now unmentionable party, for example).

          If only he could now find a way to stop the trolls. The Labour apologists are okay, they have their right to their opinion and we have a right to disagree with them – it’s the one or two who do nothing but type personal insults at other commenters, they just get in the way of the debate and piss people off.

          That said, there are not many blogs now without pre-approval on nearly all the time, so Go Guido, and good luck tonight!!

    • 44

      The Daily Mirror used to chain the old Imperials (techno geeks : Sit up; and beg Typewriter) to the desk as they were frequently thrown around the news room….at people and copy boys… tsk tsk politically incorrect

      • 52
        Steve Expat says:

        You’re showing your age there Julian. I guess an old Imperial would hurt a little more than the Nokias of late?

        • 89
          Fells Point barfly says:

          An old Imperial (I still have a working model in the attic) would do a little more that just hurt. Sucker would part your head from your shoulders? Good idea though. Guido, want to take mine with you? Doesn’t come under the usual classification of “weaponry” so would probably get into the HoC.

      • 92
        Engineer says:

        Ever been in an old-fashioned typing pool, Steve? The last of them where still around when I started work, just before PCs became common.

        They where deafening – I’ve been in quieter machine shops. Typists would have to wear ear-defenders these days.
        They where terrifying as well, walking past twenty girls (all sizing you up) for your audience with the Gargoyle in charge could be a bit of an ordeal for a wet-behind-the-ears new boy.
        Bill Gates killed all that – engineers have to type their own reports these days. Rather sad, in retrospect, the loss of all those typists….**sigh**

        • 103
          Steve Expat says:

          Computer man me – and was still in short trousers when the typing pools were abolished.

          Nowadays I make my living from IT so I can’t say I’m crying a tear for them – the team of 20 girls sound good though ;-)

          (rant) Don’t start me on Bill Gates though, his fucking shit piece of crap called Windows is the biggest pain in the arse I have to deal with every fucking day! (end rant)

        • 146
          Frank Soltis says:

          Get an IBM AS/400 Steve Expat, legendary machine, you know it makes sense and you can sleep soundly at night.

          Little known fact but Gates runs MS HQ on them!

        • 200
          Steve Expat says:

          Like the idea Frank – but it’s a little overkill for what I need. And they’re still fucking expensive!

        • 301
          BritishJobsForBritishWorkers-PAH! says:

          “Rather sad, in retrospect, the loss of all those typists….**sigh**”

          Those were the days. Now, you would say the things being lost were British IT people, being replaced by Indians under ICTs. E.g. Lloyds TSB.

      • 144
        Typing Pool says:

        Imagine McDoom’s Imperial, the giant font size on the hammers would have to be in forged titanium for lightness and strength!!!

        • 252
          thick as thieves says:

          er, did I type help the aged by mistake.
          go to bed you silly old duffers.
          you are causing a scene, it is bad for business to have old people like you hanging around gibbering your ‘those were the days’ piffle.
          fuck off you boring old c’unts.
          conservativefoam would be far more suitable for your requirements.
          thankyou and goodbye.
          fucksake.

        • 291
          nell says:

          10.29pm troll alert!!!!

        • 300
          thick as thieves says:

          but you didn’t post until 11.14pm nell.
          you must have brain damage you dopey cripple.
          YOU ARE A FUCKING TROLL NOT ME. I AM INDEPENDENT.
          how many time nell, how dim can you be and how dim do you think the reader is. you are insulting their intelligence you rude bitch.
          what a fucking retard.
          fuck off to conservativefoam nell.
          you boring arsehole.
          thankyou.

        • 303
          DagenhamDave says:

          You’re just an indepedent troll TaT. And a fucking hopeless one too, stupid c’unt.

        • 313
          thick as thieves says:

          dagger dave,
          you are new here dave.
          you won’t last long c’unt.

        • 314
          nell says:

          Only because I was busy somewhere else!

        • 327
          DagenhamDave says:

          I’ve been here for years, ‘Hoon.

        • 347

          Thick Ass Troll
          Take your medicine and then you may not be independent of the real world.

        • 419
          tat says:

          dave, you say you have been here for years.
          and yet you are still a loud mouthed nobody who has learned nothing.
          oh well.

        • 433
          DagenhamDave says:

          tat I’ve forgotten more than you’ll ever know, ‘c’unt.

  17. 25
    |cosmo|politan| says:

    Why such an imbalanced panel? – i think we can guess the outcome before it even starts….have fun anyway kiddiwinks

  18. 27
    Anonymous says:

    Windbags

  19. 28
    Dippy ness says:

    Hope you’ve got your indigestion pills at the ready.

    • 32
      hoof-hearted says:

      …and I hope there’s a decent pub nearby, Guido. You’ll need a stiff drink after listening to all that bollox.

  20. 33
    Ratsniffer says:

    It’s quite simple: the blogosphere has given a voice to a vast swathe of the country traditionally ignored/treated with contempt/shat upon by the government and the liberal leftie BBC and media: middle england.

    You know, those people Broon despises, uses their pensions as cash cows to pay for his latest stalinist projects, and lies to when he wants to milk even more taxes from them.

    • 40
      Abolish the Licence Fee says:

      Exactly. Giving a voice to the voiceless. And I don’t much care for the premise of this meeting. How dare they suggest that the internet could be a bad thing for democracy? I can only assume they have a different understanding of the word from the rest of us. Fucking sinister if you ask me.

    • 401
      Carlos Marcos says:

      Oh don’t worry. The Toerags will ignore you too.

      Although given the moronic and childish posts on here, perfectly understandable.

  21. 35

    twitter hash tag #lgaconf use this and your ‘tweet’ will be on the CONFERENCE big screen at the Harrogate Local Government Conference make it memorable before they realise what is hapening and block it ….go for it…

    eg #lgaconf Ballsballs: Educational reforms can be described in one word: CHURNING

  22. 36
    Wight Tory says:

    You could ask why the MSM don’t follow up claims by MP’s with what the rest of the country are thinking? Too often all you hear is”Let me finish” “The Tories/Liberals or Labour are saying…” when they aren’t and above all, “a cabinet minister said…” is akin to giving their own opinion to create a story, can they prove it? If not, don’t say it…

  23. 37
    Stepney says:

    1) Freedom from editorial direction.
    2) Commentary of the people by the people.
    3) Free at the point of delivery.
    4) You can’t bully what you can’t find.
    5) No vested interests to skew the message.
    6) Self-regulating.
    7) The Government hate it and the left-wing don’t get it.
    8) Cretinous old farts like White doesn’t understand it; ergo, it’s a good thing.

    Go get ‘em boy.

  24. 41
    CARRY ON GOVERNING says:

    I think the most significant story with REAL mileage is the HaywoodHain consultancy item where the INTERNET website self-declares tacit evidence of corruption. Access to understanding the “Political Landscape” indeed!

    Might as well be cash for questions, dosh for peerages, or every other scandalous yet unreconciled Metropolitan Police inquiry undertaken thus far in the recent sorry & dismal performance in the hisitory of the UK parliamentary system.

    Surely this arrogance invites the scrutiny to justify legislation & regulation against, say, the same consulting firm gaining approval through the OGC thereby being enabled to advise local authority planning committees in receipt of applications by their own client?

    The notion is utterly detestable that an elected MP should offer through a consultancy, availing the channels of influence as the means to advance the client’s interests. even if it happens between the sheets with a collusive or collaborative spouse or mistress.

    This despicable deception also represents the potential road to perdition to the destruction of local democracy by central command dictats via delegated powers.

    I can’t twitter – offer this example up for free to anyone else to present.

  25. 42
    I'm a labour MP and couldnt get a proper job so I sponge off the taxpayer says:

    Don’t forget to wear a mask. The smell from that cesspit could kill you. Are the MP’s you are debating with, claiming expenses?

    What is really the point of this debate?

    How dare those little people say any thing about the establishment!

    • 54
      Doctor Mick says:

      Don’t forget your shades either. WIth studio lights reflecting off those two baldie bonces it could be quite dazzling.

  26. 43

    Yesterdays IPPR attempt to ruin the UK has been given some more publicity by the Labour party media arm

    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=2&forumID=6666&edition=1&ttl=20090630172311&#paginator

    Luckily some people get it and are prepared to say so.

  27. 45
    resurgemus says:

    Saw Yvette Cooper on the TV yesterday, strain must be getting to her she’s starting to look as porky as the old man

  28. 46
    Sukyspook says:

    Guido, you could do worse than tell Robinson and White that once they’ve outlived their propagandizing usefulness they too will be unceremoniously DUMPED.

    TRUTH is the replacement currency for Ego and £££££.

  29. 47
    I'm a labour MP and couldnt get a proper job so I sponge off the taxpayer says:

    Balls is quite a handfull really

  30. 55
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    Ask White if he and Polly will be going when Brown does.

    • 56
      Sir William Waad says:

      White is a better writer than Toynbee because he supplies facts and arguments to support his conclusions.

      • 65

        Not necessarily the actual facts or even a balanced argument.
        But he is a better writer than Polly largely because, unlike her, he doesn’t use a crayon.

      • 76
        me says:

        have to disagree with this.

        He’s bombastic, patronising and bullying.

        He thinks he’s a wit and an authority on government and democracy

        white is shite

      • 97
        Throbber says:

        I’ve never read his writings. I have however seen him on telly on the Local council election night. I decided then and there that he was a loud mouthed bully of no real intelligence. Oh and a kunt to boot.
        Anyone care to gainsay me?

  31. 57
    Javelin says:

    Toenails is a disgrace. Almost every comment he makes is criticised by almost every response for being biased. If he worked for a commerical organisation he would get sacked. Most of his readers have more integrity than him and only want unbiased reporting. Toenails is the very embodiment of an abuse of the system.

    I think it is fair to say he and Marr have caused billions of pounds of damage to this country by not reporting Gordon Brown in a balanced way.

    • 66
      Blake's7 says:

      You can only report Brown as unbalanced cant’ you?

      Guido can you ask Toenails:-

      Seeing as the vast majority of your moderated post comments question your bias and integrity, why do you continue to sing from the same Labour hymn sheet?

      and

      If the Conservatives do win the next election, would there be any reason that you would be concerned for your future employment?

      • 136
        jgm2 says:

        I’ve read Robinson justifying the bullshit he peddles before. Basically he is a ‘reporter’. He ‘reports’ what he is given. If Labour call him up on the blower and send him around a piece they want printed verbatim then he ‘reports’ it.

        That’s it. No comment is necessary from reporters apparently.

        That’s his position.

        If he’s being honest then it is for the Tories to snow him under with ‘reports’ of their own for him to print verbatim with no comment.

        • 228
          Peter Grimes says:

          They would do better to ignore the little gobshite.

          And The White Queen.

          Let them both stew in their fetid juices!

  32. 59
    Sunonmars says:

    Personally Guido, i’d treat this a deathmatch, 3 go in 1 comes out, please take a baseball bat with you.

  33. 61
    arnie says:

    Bring White to his knees Mr Fawkes. You won’t really harm the old duffer, he wears knee pads I believe.

    • 62
      Sunonmars says:

      nah i prefer the cut him off at the knees without anaesthetic method much more reliable.

  34. 64
    'kinell says:

    ‘the internet: saviour or corruptor of democracy?’

    -sounds suspiciuosly as though they are preparing the ground for a Chinese/Iranian style policy of internet supression-

    • 67

      The internet is a horrid place where the rough kids go. Its not for nice polite journalists. It needs regulating. Everything needs regulating.

      Regulation,Regulation,Regulation!

    • 93
      cosmo¬politan says:

      It should read “Parliament and MP’s:” saviours or criminal corruptors of democracy?

  35. 68
    Trough Mixture says:

    I say again. They are Gilbert and George.

    Throw a bucket of HoC chilled maiden’s water over them. Especially if one has turned and they are facing in opposite directions.

    Call Mickey ‘Mane Wearing’ and talk loudly of Walmington on Sea.

    Lastly, good luck.

  36. 69
    Javelin says:

    The key to this is to focus on CORRUPTION.

    They will want GUIDO to prove himself a saviour. Which you can’t.

    They will want to prove you a corrupt journalist because you don’t work for them.

    You have to KEEP the focus on CORRUPTION. You have to say corruption cones from the benefits they receive. How can they be unbiased when they get so many free lunches. FOCUS ON CORRUPTION. Use the word as many times as possible ad close to their name. Answer any and every question with the word CORRUPTION.

  37. 71
    |cosmo|politan| says:

    Of course, this sham “conference” is all pre-scripted ala Sty TV’s so-called “Newspaper Reviews” *puke* I’m only surpsed Mrs Dale wasn’t invited. You twitter messages will be ignoed except as to provide them with audience feedback statistics. STOP BEING SHEEP and think for yourselves and start by voting Labour (you know it makes sense). F_R_E_E_D_O_M,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,S,p,e,d,o

  38. 83
    My emotions get the better of me says:

    OFF TOPIC

    Did anyone know that Micael Jackson had died??

  39. 88
    Dick Scratcher says:

    Just ask the Zeppelin duo if they are willing to publish their expenses. The journo beard on Radio 4 (efff emmm) Money Box has done so & is publishing his salary & package shortly.

  40. 91
    Boris says:

    Guido

    And dont’ forget to ask White and Toenails why neither have mentioned the £ 20 billion being borrowed per month by this criminal government

    And the largest projected public deficicit of over 12% of GDP this year…

    These are shocking and appalling figures tha

    • 112
      Ratsniffer says:

      Let’s not forget PFI – which will haunt successive administrations for years, and represents crap value for (taxpayer’s) money.

    • 145
      Creased Dick says:

      wrong. not 12%. UK GPD was, before it fell off a cliff, around £1.4tn. borrowing ~£200bn – expected for 2009/10 – equates to over 14%. Even OECD yesterday confirmed this as their updated forecast for BUST BRITAIN.

  41. 108
    Dirty Rat says:

    Guido. If things go quiet you could always ask White to show his ‘wank face’. That will make them sit up and pay attention.

  42. 114
    Atilla the Hun says:

    Talking about ‘gloves off’….
    Why is it that this corrupt government can still deliver nonsense about the education sytem for the future, can pontificate about ID cards, can be involved in besmurging the internet and bloggers etc etc and here we are still typing furiously and waiting for PMQs as the country sinks below the survival line???
    I’, fucking sick of this complacency. I want to riot. NOW Come on then….let’s get the bastards………

    • 160
      Creased Dick says:

      remember the armchair warriors who predicted it kicking off once the weather warmed up? Well, it’s warm and…nowt. typical Brits, all piss and wind, busily looking up house price comparison sites and downloading porn. koreans close a car factory and WWIII kicks off. Brits don’t do direct action. They’re ‘non-violent’ see, except for their psychotic reputation abroad of course.

  43. 115
    grobdj says:

    Ask them about the growth rate in quarter 2 last year (which Alastair Darling claimed was ‘flat’ – how much did they pay the ONS to sit on the fence?????)

    Anyone in business knows the recession started one quarter earlier than the Government claimed (my turnover certainly went down)

    And ask them about the today’s quarterly ‘growth’ figures (negative 2.4%); and how they reconcile to Darling’s budget projection of -3.5% this year, and +0.1% in 2010.

    Then ask them if they still think Brown and Darling are economically competent

  44. 117
    Silence Won’t Defeat the B*N*P – Fraser Nelson says:

    What a joy it is to visit a blog where the issues of the day are allowed to be discussed so openly!

  45. 119
    Trough Mixture says:

    Is Dale not there because he called Mick a sexist? Were there objections?

    • 123
      Court of Pubic Opinion says:

      Dale – Truly The Peoples Prat.

    • 183
      Anon says:

      Loves his spots on the Sky ‘news’ paper review. Maybe he sees it as an opportunity to pick up fresh meat.

  46. 120
    ID CARDS MY ASS says:

    ask these dickwits if they think we would know ANYTHING if we had to rely on TRUD (the BBC aka TURD) or any of the MSM which lies – lies lies all the time

    ask them why 4000 people a week are emigrating from Kim Il Browns’ turd world shit hole and being replaced by breeders from the turd world which will in the end not be paying any tax because it is all being sent to wongastan.

    ask them when they think the revolution is coming and if they ever meet any real people or if the Westminster village idiots are their only play friends.

    tell them we have had enough of the MSM BULL SHIT!!!!!

  47. 121
    |cosmo|politan| says:

    Dedicated to Dr Mick’s ego

    http://troonite.co.uk/wp/aint-half

    • 143
      Ian Drury Lane says:

      Uncalled for. This is a blog not a chat room.

      • 154
        Blog Police Twat Alert says:

        You and who’s army.

      • 262
        thick as thieves says:

        you are having a larf you c’unt.
        run along and tell the tory trolls that this is not a chat room.
        as far as I can deduce the tory trolls seem to think this is some kind of gay dating site/swingers club where they hold the most disgusting torytrollgayfests.
        the fuckers just rim each other all day long.
        fucking rimmers.
        tell them not to abuse their hosts charity by posting their garbage chit chat all the time.
        fucking rude wankers.
        oh, and Ian Drury Lane, don’t start bossing people around you moron.
        that’s my job.
        I’M TOP BOY C’UNT!
        WHO’S THE DADDY? I’M THE FUCKING DADDY MOTHERFUCKER!
        welcome to the future.

        • 289
          Dr Feelgood says:

          What a vile piece of homophobic hate speech. The true face of Labour shows itself as they become desperate.

        • 290
          Turkish Terror says:

          Yarak!

        • 302
          thick as thieves says:

          dr feelgood,
          are you on acid you c’unt?
          I have stated quite clearly on several occasions my support of the gay people.
          I have one reservation regarding ugly lesbians but I am currently and vigorously engaged in a review on the subject and will produce my interim report in due course.
          and if you think I am labour then you must be injecting heroin into your temporal lobes whilst typing at the keyboard.
          look DF, instead of ranting at me, why don’t you just face up to the fact that you are an ignorant crackerjack motherfucker?
          you are just a useless loud mouthed c’unt.
          now fuck off eh.

        • 308
          Dr Feelgood says:

          TaT, if you consider the way you conduct yourself here to be normal or acceptable I suggest you seek professional counselling. This is genuine advice and not an attempt to be funny. You need help.

        • 319
          thick as thieves says:

          dr feelgood.
          you want to know what I really think dr.
          I think you are a complete wanker.
          fuck off crackerjack.
          damn honkies innit!

        • 355
          |cosmo|politan| says:

          Wondeful piece of creative writing there TAT – I am in awe of you..it is an honour to have you as one of my attendants,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,S,p,e,d,o.

        • 373
          Dr Feelgood says:

          Tat, Cosmo – any idiot can post abusively, and you do.

          Not going to waste my time with you.

        • 409
          Richard says:

          TaT – you are “Sally” off of Liberal Conspiracy and I claim my £5.

        • 425
          tat says:

          never heard of her and never heard of you.
          bugger off you cretinous nobody.
          thankyou.

    • 196
      sock biter says:

      sweaties!

  48. 124
    Silence Won’t Defeat the B*N*P – Fraser Nelson says:

    Why doesn’t Guido allow comment with respect to the B*N*P?

    Is he a closet Redactionist?

    • 129
      Anonymous says:

      He got spammed by them, emagine thick as thieves and master baiter on every post saying that their party was the only good one out there, thinking possibly that Guido’s anti-politics stand made him one of them – which he most certainly is not.

      • 131
        Anon says:

        How transparent of him.

      • 271
        thick as thieves says:

        oh dear anonymous 126! what a terrible liar and what a wicked lie.
        anyone can check the record you cretin, I hunt and kill bn p nazi trolls for fun. although it is fun I do regard bashing c’unts like you to be a duty.
        I bash bn p trolls brains out whenever I see the nazi c’unts.
        you and your cripple mate are both bn p whitesupremacists and I am going to keep an eye out for you two.
        it is what I do.
        and when you pop out from under you nazi bridge I will bash your brains out.
        excellent.

  49. 127
    Any Colour but Brown says:

    Just call ZaNu Labour a bunch of liars.

    • 130
      Anon says:

      Just call the whole of the 646 a bunch of liars.

      They are, big clear out please.

      Vote anything but the Lib/Lab/Con. Otherwise you’ll get the same bunch of shits next time.

  50. 132
    NewGirl says:

    Bet Guido’s in the pub by now, sounds a bit dull to me.

    • 147
      Anon says:

      Guido’s as bad a member of the Westminster Village People as the rest of them.

      • 151
        NewGirl says:

        How so? Don’t think he makes nearly so much on expenses… The public purse doesn’t pay him. So what’s your problem? And why you on his blog? Not being rude – genuinely wondering….

        • 406
          Carlos Marcos says:

          Geedo is more profitable than the Guardian and Independent combined, or so he says himself.

          A major media magnate, posing as a libertarian.

      • 152
        Engineer says:

        But in fairness – semi-detached (in the best sense).

    • 150
      nell says:

      As long as he’s not on here modding that’s OK!

      • 153
        NewGirl says:

        I haven’t been around much Nell, has he been modding furiously?

        • 156
          Anon says:

          Certainly where mention of the B*N*P is concerned.

        • 158
          NewGirl says:

          The Party Who Shall Not be Named…. I want nothing to do with them, but pretending they don’t exist probably won’t make them go away…

        • 167
          Engineer says:

          Agreed, but their recent successes possibly has more to do with the major parties’ failure to address people’s concerns than because people really believe in the B and P’s core principles.

        • 169
          NewGirl says:

          Definitely, not possibly Engineer.

        • 173
          Engineer says:

          It’s quiet tonight. I thought with Guido otherwise occupied, the place would be crawling with trolls. Mind you, I said the same thing last night, and ten minutes later we where under siege.

        • 174
          Anon says:

          Definitely not possibly New Girl.

        • 175
          Anon says:

          It is a shame that a blogger such as Guido chooses to ignore something so relevant to British politics today.

          An ostrich springs to mind.

        • 176
          NewGirl says:

          Oh TwAT will be here soon. he can’t resist me!

        • 177
          nell says:

          Wait! wait! I have never mentioned the party that musn’t be mentioned. I got modded twice last night and once this morning,

          My language would pass the Local Chapel test.

          I was just replying to things that others had posted – avoiding trolls as one does.

          And in one of the comments I happened to mention that the declining Labour Party, when an examination was carried out after the next GE, would probably be compared to what had happened in m*c**l j*acksns *utops*y, – ie found to be emaci*ated and ba*d.

        • 180
          NewGirl says:

          sounds like fair comment to me Nell…! Don’t know why that would ne modded!

        • 182
          Anon says:

          As long as he gets his stat porn he’s happy. Even if that means ignoring the unmentionable.

        • 184
          Engineer says:

          TaT was bouncing about last night looking for you, NG. Steve Expat and myself had a happy hour chasing him up and down the thread.
          He’s an odd one is TaT – he goes back to the thread the following morning, just to have the last bile-soaked word. I’m sure he’s got a mild personality disorder.

        • 185
          NewGirl says:

          Mild?!! No way. he’s stark raving bonkers….. I’d hate to meet him on a dark night.

        • 187
          Troll Basher says:

          He’s probably got a very sore arse right now.

        • 188
          Anon says:

          A hard call for Guido I think. It should be possible to debate the nature of those ‘opinions’, but for a long time that has ceased to be the case. It makes me wonder about the health of a society that can’t look maturely at the feelings those ‘opinions’ expose. Too many raw memories of Europe’s extreme right history perhaps? Or maybe doubts of our own vulnerability (and I include myself) with respect to how such a fury can cease a whole nation.

        • 189
          NewGirl says:

          Nice to meet you TB…hear you’ve been administering beatings to our resident evil!

        • 190
          Engineer says:

          Hi TB! No signs of him yet….

        • 191
          Anonymous says:

          Stop talking about them, they’ve stayed off this one so far… TaT was here in the afternoon today, obviously his probation officer let him use the computer as a special priviledge…

        • 194
          grobdj says:

          Sorry to break into such a quiet night folks, but the real story today is the ONS quarterly survey

          http://www.statistics.gov.uk/pdfdir/qna0609.pdf

          1. the recession started in Q2 2008 not Q3 as claimed by ONS and the Government (to date the statistics have always claimed that growth in Q2 2008 was ‘flat’)

          2. GDP dropped 4.9% over the last year (threatening 1 in 20 jobs)

          3. Real household incomes have dropped 2.4% between Christmas 2008 and end of March 2009

          3. Construction down 6.9%

          4. Service industries down 1.6%

          5. Health up 0.7%, education up 0.2% (no surprise there then)

          This is January to March 2009, so April-June 2009 could be even worse, you’ll have to wait till September to know

          This is what is really happening – does anybody care?

        • 197
          Steve Expat says:

          186 was me, no idea why anon

        • 199
          Engineer says:

          Anon -I’d be inclined to agree that open discussion is better than trying to close down the arguement. Get the toytown nazis to state their case, openly, and see what stands up and what doesn’t. They do have a bit of a point with, for example, illegal immigration – something the current government hasn’t been very open about, itself. Not sure that any of us know the true situation.

        • 202
          Troll Basher says:

          He’s about still posting under different names. A sly trick, but I can smell him a mile off.

          My mission is just to administer a little of his own medicine. He thinks he can give it, but the little runt can’t take it. When he’s a good lickle troll I’ll leave him be. Until then if anyone has any trouble from the imp, just whistle, or :

          Just call my name and I’ll be there

          I’ll be there to comfort you,
          Build my world of dreams around you, I’m so glad that I found you
          I’ll be there with a love that’s strong
          I’ll be your strength, I’ll keep holding on

          Let me fill your heart with joy and laughter
          Togetherness, well that’s all I’m after
          Whenever you need me, I’ll be there
          I’ll be there to protect you, with an unselfish love that respects you
          Just call my name and I’ll be there

        • 204
          Steve Expat says:

          It’s one thing the nazis arguing against you, quite another saying “You’re a cnut” in reply to a well made point!

        • 205
          NewGirl says:

          Wow! Its like having Mr Pinkwhistle on the blog, going round righting wrongs…!

        • 209
          Troll Basher says:

          There’s only one thing the Toytown Nazis understand…. raw eggs. Chuckie eggs!!

          I recommend free range for long distance work and battery eggs for hand to hand. A hard boiled? They don’t like it up ‘em!

        • 224
          nell says:

          Mr TB – ever tried Goose Eggs – Much Bigger!!

        • 225
          If you believe in freedom,ban all opposition says:

          Engineer 194.
          I would suggest that half of the one million votes that they picked up were from tactical voters hoping,not for a government of blimpers,but to do what has happened, which is to bring the subject of immigration into the public debate. This is,as many point out,a subject that parliament and the MSM have stifled. Just another irony that is New Labour’s legacy.

        • 233
          Engineer says:

          Nell -I’ve never tried a goose egg, but I’m told they’re very tasty. Can you confirm?

        • 238
          Engineer says:

          NewGirl, are you still about? You’re very quiet!

        • 255
          nell says:

          Engineer- Yes duck and goose eggs are good if you can find a farm that has them.

          Of course – you have to take account of the fact that the rural areas/ farms and the agricultural industry have/has been under vicious attack for the twelve years of this labour government – prezza, blair and brown thought that the rural/agricultural area were tory areas and set out to destroy them.

          As a consequence so much of our production of ducks / geese / goats / lambs/sheep/bullocks /chickens and much else besides has been destroyed.

          Labour did not care about foul pest or foot and mouth – they thought it was a good thing.

        • 258
          Steve Expat says:

          the twat is here, see 242 above,,,

        • 275
          Engineer says:

          He’s keeping his distance. Ignore the little wazzock.

        • 281
          thick as thieves says:

          dear cripples.
          you motherfuckers just cannot get enough of the epic tale of the heroic thick as thieves as he staggers his way through the blood and guts to get to the place of democratic sanctuary they place they call ‘the hung parliament’.
          and I hope your fucking subs are all up to date?
          oh and there will be no healings of any of you cripples today so there is no point in you all queuing for the great tat to heal you.
          I have had a very busy day and I’m not in the mood.
          judging by your tory scum views you probably deserve your afflictions.

        • 285
          Dr Feelgood says:

          I’m not in favour of pelting the toytown nazis with eggs as it only enhances their feelings of martyrdom and gives them publicity.

          However, to those who persist in doing it, may I recommend you use the eggs of species that aren’t native to the British Isles. I have heard that Griffin is partial to a cockatoo…

        • 304
          thick as thieves says:

          yeah, you’re definitely on acid you c’unt.

        • 312
          Dr Feelgood says:

          TaT, of course I cannot stop your hateful and abusive language. In fact I am committed to supporting free expression. However, if you want to convince people to adopt your world view then you are going the wrong way about it. You need to recognise you have issues; please seek professional help.

        • 322
          thick as thieves says:

          I am finding bashing your brains out very theraputic.

        • 325
          thick as thieves says:

          I am finding bashing your brains out very theraputic doctor.
          don’t feel so good now eh?
          tough shit numbnuts.
          you are out of your league doctor feelgood, and it shows.

      • 315
        albacore says:

        Hilarious.
        Who do you despise the more, Labour or the B*N*P?
        If the latter, what has that party ever done to you, yours or anyone you know?
        You have positive proof that Parliament lies, cheats and steals from you, has rigged elections, has restricted your personal freedom and has killed Lord knows how many, on both sides, in illegal wars .
        Yet still you’re suckers for Establishment conditioning that the B*N*P is your worst nightmare.

        • 360
          Anon says:

          Exactly, well said.

          Surely they can’t be as bad as the current shower of shite can they?

        • 427
          tat says:

          we didn’t defeat hitler to then vote nazi scum into our parliament, regardless of the current terrible state of parliament.
          If I were in charge I would string you nazi bnp trolls up.
          no joke.
          y’know, just like your white supremacist affiliates the KKK did to black people.
          who would miss a couple of gobby honkies like you anyway?
          no one.

  51. 133
    Anonymous says:

    Michael White, discussing the internet . . . He he heard of it? This is the bloke who describes a woman as having “a hissy fit,” and when called on the sexism of his remarks, that he would never apply to phrase to a man, simply denies it. It’s too pathetic to contemplate.

  52. 139
    • 149
      Anon says:

      Ha fucking ha. Voluntary he says.

      Until you need to do something useful like open a bank account, borrow a library book or travel abroad.

      It is not being scrapped, merely kicked in to the long grass. If it’s useless why carry on with it?

      • 195
        Anonymous says:

        If it’s not compulsory it’s pointless doing it – they hoped they could get a few on side then gradually creep the scope.

        They chose a sily group in airport workers though, everyone but the guy in WH Smith is unionised and are already well vetted to get their ID in the first place, so it was completely pointless. Big up to the pilots’ union BALPA for leading the charge…

      • 276
        Dr Feelgood says:

        Do you remember when they toyed with calling ID cards ‘entitlement cards’?

        I wonder if they will also be required if you want to get your kids tutored, claim benefits, or access any other national or local government service.

        Of course, this may have the beneficial effect of getting a lot of scroungers off the books, but will also impact on hundreds of thousands of older and other vulnerable people who need help. Another Labour fuck up – it’ll actually create a de jure sub-class to augment the exisiting de facto one.

    • 170
      grobdj says:

      Fiddling whilst Rome burns

      http://www.statistics.gov.uk/pdfdir/qna0609.pdf

      Look at the first graph, dear bloggers. I already know because I am a manufacturer. What I feel now, you will feel later

      Green shoots my arse

      • 216
        Engineer says:

        I’ve been plugging the line – because I know it’s true – that Britain still has a manufacturing base, albeit reduced from the 70’s and 80’s. These stats are a real downer – we are going to need all the private enterprise we’ve got, and more, to get us out of this economic hole. The public sector is a drain, not a contributor, so that has to be trimmed back to fit available tax take, however painful that might be.

        It’s the private sector that’s going to get us out of this – how much help is the private sector getting from government, in your experience?

        • 232
          Peter Grimes says:

          Two fifths of five eighths of fuck all!

          How are we ever going to claw back the 7-8% permanent GDP drop that we will have suffered by next year in the current depressed world situation and with our borrowing?

        • 237
          grobdj says:

          None.

          By ‘Government Help’ I read ‘Banking’, since the banks are now effectively state-owned.

          Yorkshire/Clydesdale Bank withdrew my business internet banking availability three times in the last 18 months. It’s a bit like your employer just bounced your salary cheque.

          (PS Gordon Brown had his breakfast at Clydesdale Bank HQ just before his famous ‘I take full reponsibility….so the person responsible has gone….’ speech at Clyde Docks)

          ‘It’s the computer – we have to sort out the new agreement before it goes back on’

          Nov 2007 – 12 month agreement
          Nov 2008 – 3 month agreement
          Feb 2009 – 6 week agreement, with the requirement to replace overdraft with a repayment loan

          The last straw was being charged 29.25% interest whilst the so-called agreement was pending. (PS I’ve been with this bank for 15 years)

          March 31st: paid off 25 grand overdraft, opened new Business account with Abbey Nat. Free banking, no Scottish twit looking over my shoulder

          Yes we business people are resourceful, and will survive.

          But don’t expect us to create jobs in the economy any time soon, we’re in survival mode. Imagine being on the top of Everest with me and only one oxygen bottle.

        • 243
          Engineer says:

          Peter -grobdj – I really mean this – Good Luck. Hellfire, is Britain going to need you guys.

        • 349

          grobdj ,

          You learnt a valuable lesson. You don’t really run your company when you’re in debt.

          I saw the credit crunch coming and a “no external debt clause” is written into the articles of association!

      • 269
        Anonymous says:

        “Green shoots my arse”

        While Brown shoots your pension.

  53. 161
    Cockfosters Coach Tours says:

    Michael White is a tosser, he looks like the type of bloke who keeps a large ball of blu-tack up his jacksy

    • 214
      Anonymous says:

      The analogy you apply is intriguing though uncannily accurate, I suspect.

    • 368
      The Dark Lord says:

      White can be seen in M&S Chiswick so you can hang around and hit him with an organic mango

  54. 165
    HappyChick says:

    I assume Fawkes is now at the Commons bar drinking subsidised beers.

  55. 166
    HappyChick says:

    I assume Guido is now at the Commons bar drinking subsidised beers

  56. 168
    Wonder how it went? says:

    And the debate update is?

  57. 171
    Hops says:

    Michael White’s profundity :

    “Damien McBride has managed to keep a sensibly low profile since moving with the former Chancellor to run the political side of Brown’s press operation. He is nowhere near as roughas his predecessor at No.11, [Charlie] Whelan… He is a diplomat, charming when so inclined, as befits a former head of VAT strategy at the Treasury.”

  58. 172
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    • 179
      Engineer says:

      Printer settings have gone to pot again…

      • 201
        barefootcontessa says:

        Alan Johnson announces that the government is backing down on ID cards. Newlabour has no intention of backing down on this issue. They will withdraw for a safe period, and then surreptitiously, in a sideways sneaky move bring them in just the same. Originally the reason they put forward for introducing these cards was terrorism. That reason has now been eliminated. So is the real reason because they know they can’t afford them? Because they’ve managed to wheedle their way out of an expensive contract, or because, (contrary to their original statements), they know that people are against them, and they think it might help them to win the next general election?

        • 207
          Engineer says:

          Personally, I think you’re right with the costs theory. I’m fairly sure the education announcements covered some major cost savings by cutting out the involvement of a firm called Capita – shadowy bunch that nobody seems to know much about. Think we’ll see a tranche of announcements over the next few weeks that spin cuts as ‘investment’.

          There again, I’d agree on the slipperyness point as well. This not are definately not to be trusted.

        • 215
          barefootcontessa says:

          Presumably johnson is doing the gorgon’s bidding? He will regret it, – being a stool pigeon, but I suppose he knows he’s finished anyway, or is it part of a cunning plan to crawl his way to the top of newlabour? Ed balls has been doing a lot of crawling today too.

        • 226
          Engineer says:

          Can’t understand why any of them would want the top job now. They know they’re toast, short of a miracle, at the next GE. Better to wait, and take over as party leader with a mission to rebuild.

          More likely, I think, is that Darling has told them in very stark terms the real state of the books, and relayed what the IMF have told him. They are in panic mode looking for cuts, but they’ve spun themselves into an almighty hole with the “Labour investment vs Tory cuts” line.

          Hope so, anyway.

        • 310
          Anon says:

          Terrorism hasn’t been eliminated. It’s just that the economy, or lack of it, is more sexy for the dim fucks in Westminster just now.

          No excuse for them not to ditch the whole ID crap though I grant you.

        • 397
          barefootcontessa says:

          All the above more or less confirmed on radio 4 this am.

    • 352
      POSTSKRYPTER says:

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  59. 192
    nell says:

    Labour ministers have christened gordon’s bulding britain’s future –

    The National Plan!

    That’s more like it! Stalin used to call his plans, with all their wonderful tractor stats, exactly that.

    No doubt this is gordon’s election manifesto –

    It can’t be costed – in education it restates promises he made in 2007 and never delivered on – in health it regurgitates some of blair’s ideas re; sourcing out to the private sector (again never delivered on)…………………………

    And on the economy – he’s promising growth by Xmas!!

    Anyone for a luxury cruise to Mars this autumn?!!

    • 198
      Cockfosters Coach Tours says:

      Is this in addition or replacement to the Brown International Plan?

    • 203
      barefootcontessa says:

      Nell, you’re not criticizing our supreme leader are you?!

      • 229
        nell says:

        Dear Contessa – the supreme leader I think is Mrs T – David C is a Disciple.

        And gordo – bless his cotton socks, is that lass in the old testament who kept looking over her shoulder and got turned to stone (sorry I forget her name)

        • 231
          Engineer says:

          Lott’s wife?

        • 236
          nell says:

          Thank you!

        • 342
          Schooner Skipper says:

          Wasn’t it a “pillar of salt”?

        • 404
          barefootcontessa says:

          Sorry to disagree Nell, I think mrs. thatcher was a dangerous harridan, bigoted and full of bitterness towards society. She had the temperament of a small shop keeper, and was emotionally driven because she felt her father had been badly treated. She was exceptional as a woman because she based her behaviour on a man’s behaviour. Men, particularly homosexuals very much admire strong women, and she was not unattractive as a female. She was exceptional because she managed to gain power within a man’s world. She didn’t do anything for the general cause of women. Worst of all she inexplicably spawned blair, and now we have brown on our hands for a muffler!

        • 413
          barefootcontessa says:

          Nell, sorry to disagree – vehemently! Mrs. Thatcher was a bigoted harridan. She had the limited attitude (under an aura of expansivity) of a small shop keeper in the 19th century. She was embittered by the unfair treatment – as she saw it – that her father had had to endure. She was exceptional in that she ’succeeded’ within the world of men. Men, particularly homosexuals adored her, she was not unattractive as a female, and she was undoubtedly a very strong personality, having moulded herself upon a man , her father.
          She did not help the cause of women, and inexplicably spawned tony blair, and thus brown. Far from being a madonna to which, (with other good qualities)
          all women should aspire, she was more of a she devil. I could go on, and on, but malheureusement have the duties of a normal female to complete.

        • 414
          barefootcontessa says:

          Sorry, seem to have 2 versions on same subject. One was moderated,. so rewrote. Is it against the rules Guido to criticize Mrs.T?

    • 206
      Steve Expat says:

      “Buillding Britain’s Future” – in association with the IMF and the World Bank…

    • 211
      Engineer says:

      I’m going to stay put and endure in my beloved Britain – but I’m stocking up on baked beans and toilet rolls just in case.

      • 220
        barefootcontessa says:

        Heinz?

        • 244
          Adrian Prole says:

          Hi Contessa,

          Heinz – my kids wouldn’t eat anything else when they were young (or now, for that matter). If Mrs Prole tried to feed them other brands, they turned up their noses and tipped the plate off the high-chair, (little sods). Can’t blame them though.

          Must have done something right.

        • 309
          Anon says:

          What a fucking liberty.

        • 316
          Adrian Prole says:

          It’s not what I said when I had to wipe baked beans off the bloody wall!

        • 381
          Unsworth says:

          Cross & Blackwell.

        • 415
          jgm2 says:

          Absolutely.

          Cross & Blackwell.

          Accept no substitute.

        • 420
          barefootcontessa says:

          Heinz organic?

      • 242
        nell says:

        I agree – I’m also growing raspberries, tomatoes and basil.

        Truth is Engineer – There’s lots of decent folk still in dear old England.

        Once we get rid of this Labour Parasite (which is largely a scottish beetle like infection that invaded through europe) – decency will reassert itself.

        • 261
          grobdj says:

          Nell, Engineer, yes we are resourceful, Dad and I are growing spuds in the yard

          United Utilities charge us £18 a tonne for water, so we collect rainwater off the factory roof

        • 264
          |cosmo|politan| says:

          Aw, CCCCCCCmmmmmmmmmmmon! A BEETLE — ME?

          Nell, y’ e broken muh wee scoatish hert :-((

          Try this coz I think it’s probably what you sound like

          http://troonite.co.uk/wp/blow-the-wind-southerly

        • 268
          |cosmo|politan| says:

          Nell, if you visited the link I put up for ya then you will see the firt case of the attempted murder of a Scottish Song by a fake anglicised voice. Beetle I may be but at least I am fooking genuine….do you think racism is sexy, or sumthin’?

          aka S,p,e,d,o

          :-((

      • 246
        Engineer says:

        I’m inclined to agree, Nell. Britons have endured worse, and survived. We’re a resourceful lot, but I think we may have to be with the economic mess we,re in. But it’s still the best country on God’s earth!

        But the sun keeps coming up, and my dear old Mum’s strawberries are cropping so heavily, even the blackbirds can’t keep up!

        • 274
          |cosmo|politan| says:

          Hey — wake up England is NOT Britain, okay? BRITAIN is the fooking landmass that comprises BOTH Scotland AND England ya fooking moron.

          AND there is no fooking nationality known as English — you and Nell are both fooking BRITISH, get it? comprendo? savvy?

          ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,S,p,e,d,o

        • 280
          Engineer says:

          Read the above again, you daft wazzock. I wrote ‘Britons’. I meant ‘Britons’. Got that?

        • 282
          Adrian Prole says:

          A few years after the war (WWII – I’m not that old), my Mum and Dad had “utility furniture” in the form of a table and chairs. It lasted for years. And it was comfy, as far as I can remember (being a little lad). My mum used to take the shovel out to the road and scrape up the horse-shit from passing tradesmen, and chuck it on the roses. She complained to the next-door neighbour when the electric bill went up to £8 for the quarter!

          Happy days!

        • 286
          Adrian Prole says:

          Excuse me, Cosmo. You seem to have forgotten Wales – or do you use an EU map of Britain?

        • 296
          Dr Feelgood says:

          As usual the trolls ooze hatred, ignorance and bigotry – in this case against the Welsh and the English.

          The positive thing about their behaviour is that they turn the many thousands of people who visit this site even further against Labour.

        • 320
          |cosmo|politan| says:

          273 Well Engineer I am very sorry if I am wrong but I don’t perform at my best when I am under fooking racist attack….trouble is these fucking morons who go on like that don’t know who their true friends are.
          For their benefit, Great Britain does NOT mean that England is in some way great!
          It simply fooking means that the landmass comprising Scotland and England is the biggest [greatest] of all the Brisitsh isles – directly analagous to the Great Toe being the biggest single element in the grouping of a footworth of human toes.
          AND YOU VOTE FOR CAMERON – do you not realise what that means? You vote for UKIP and Nigel Garage – some vote for Bea Enn Pea — Have you lot never HEARD of 1603 and 1707 or is yer minds stuffed full of fooking 1066 and Skakspeae who worked for a SCOTTISH King?????? *bleedin’ Nora*

        • 322
          |cosmo|politan| says:

          289 Feelgood – try thinking good instead, ya wanker

        • 326
          |cosmo|politan| says:

          275 – No I did not forget – I take them for granted as my celtic cousins and besides, I can only deal with so much at a time – a limitation I am sure you are very familiar with.

        • 333
          Adrian Prole says:

          Cosmos seems to be troubled by his adolescent acne. Calamine lotion and teddy away fron his face should do the trick

        • 336
          |cosmo|politan| says:

          326 You are an ignoramus

        • 339
          |cosmo|politan| says:

          For the sake of people like Adrian who are intellectually challenged, the problem with Cameron is that is a unionists [purportedly] but he wants (like Nell) to eradicate teh scottish identity). Heand his kidn have nearly succeeded because our populaiton has been in delcien (and still is) for centuries. So if you get your way, what will your nearest ccultural competitor be_____ANSWER – Ireland! Use yer fooking nimaginaitons and fill int he blanks yourself. HOW CAN THERE BE a united kingsdom made up of one homogenised mass if you swallow up scotkland? You cna only unite TWO or more separate parts! Let Scotland be indepedent and we BOTH get our nationalities back and for the first tiem since 1603 you can call yourselves ENGLISH! by dint of us separating off and becomign SCOTTISH….what kind of conservative party si it that does not want “conserve” the union but to obliterate it into oen homogenised whole!

          *ake up* – you are a HUGE country with a HUGE population – wrte to your tory pinups and tell them to let Scotland be independent for the SAKE of the union (not in spite of it).

        • 350
          Adrian Prole says:

          Doesn’t take much to wind you up, does it, S*edo?

          Good night, I’m of to bed now.

        • 353
          |cosmo|politan| says:

          Adrian darling, it depends on how one might define “much”…….g’nite – sleep tite – don’t let the bed bugs bite.

          Sufficent unto the day is the evil thereof,,,,,,,,,,S,p,e,d,o,,,,,,,, forgives you.

  60. 210
    michel de montaigne says:

    Don’t know how to post photos on here, but take a look at the newly released pic of Gorgon in the Mirror. Bril photo for Friday’s caption

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/opinion/voiceofthemirror/2009/06/30/the-tough-get-going-115875-21482628/

    His kids must hide under the bedclothes when they hear him approaching their bedroom after saving the Universe ( or multiples thereof)

    • 213
      Dack Blog says:

      His face is melting. Has he just opened the ark of the covenant?

    • 218
      Anonymous says:

      Fuggin ell, that’s dreadful. By any stretch of the imagination that’s a shocker.

    • 219
      Anonymous says:

      You could use that photograph to keep the slugs off yer brassicas.

    • 222
      Dack Blog says:

      Jacko looked healthier at his last rehearsal.

      • 239
        Call me Infidel says:

        Jacko probably looks healthier now! Broon looks like a zombie kept alive by Lord Fondleson of the dark arts.

    • 250
      Dr Feelgood says:

      Someone should have told him that you’re supposed to keep the hideous corrupted portrait in the attic… but I guess he’s copied other things from Oscar Wilde more successfully.

    • 295
      Beautiful Day says:

      Even his tie looks knackered.

    • 311
      Lavender Sarah says:

      What about me I have to wake up with that every morning. Its’ hours before he gets his make-up on

    • 357
      Trough Mixture says:

      Something of the slab about that.

    • 403
      Sarah says:

      Those idiots at the Mirror photoshopped the string of drool off his chin, but forgot to use the “de-loonification” tool to close his mouth. Tsk.

  61. 212
    Troll Basher says:

    I’m going now. I can tell my lickle troll friend is lurking, but scared shitless about appearing until I’ve gone. Being a kind hearted soul (when I’m not bashin trolls’ heads in) I’m makin room.

    But I’ll be back.

    Asta la vista babies :))

    • 230
      Engineer says:

      See ya soon TB – mind how yer go!

    • 235
      nell says:

      Hasta la vista!

    • 307
      thick as thieves says:

      bashed troll,
      er, don’t forget to put your timesheet in so you get your overtime and expenses for the tory troll work you have done tonight.
      I hear dave and gideon are very generous and lax when it comes to expenses.
      well, there own, anyway.

  62. 234
    nell says:

    Interesting point – Alan Johnson briefed journalists at 1.45om today about the abandonment of the ID Card Scheme ( and it is abandonment -OK let’s just wait and see if I’m right!)

    Alan Johnson made a written statement to the HoC at 3.45pm .

    Damian Green asked Mr Bercow what he was going to do about this “flagrant breach” of his new rules, that HoC should be appraised of policy decisions before the media!

    dear Bercow said he found no evidence that the media knew first!

    Try asking journalists!!!!

    • 254
      MI5 says:

      You are doing it the right way Nell

      I have spent about 20 years denouncing their the lies of Labour and “New”Labour lies..

      We are going to have an election campaipn based on LIES from Labour

      The sonner Dave calls them LIARS in the House of Commaons the better…

      New Labour have ripped up any constitutuional coventions.

      NEW LABOUR = LIARS

      • 267
        nell says:

        I agree MI5 – Labour is based on LIES -

        Don’t think Dave should tear up the HoC convention just yet though and call them Liars – He should be more subtle.

        The Blogs – which are a relatively new evolution – can not only speak the bald truths that HoC conventions still frown upon but we can debate and expose them , because we have more space and more time than is given to parliament.

        So go on Balls – keep telling your lies so that we can examine every word you utter and tell you if any one of them are a truth !!! Not likely is it ??!!

        • 293
          Engineer says:

          Nell – it’s been a pleasure discussing several of the issues of the day – education, ID cards, economic stats (OK – that one is a bit of a downer), in a mature, open, honest and truthful way with people who care. What a stark reflection that politics in Downing Street and the HoC is so shot through with lies – all the more reason that Guido keeps up the good work, and we support him.

          But that’s enough for tonight.

          Good night folks – mind how you go!

      • 354

        L is for Labour, L is or Lies.

    • 260
      Engineer says:

      Good point – mistake on Bercow’s part. He should have asked for an explaination on behalf of the house. Put his foot down. Now they’ve got away with it, the so-and-sos will push their luck until they’re pulled up. Just like children….

  63. 249
    Adrian Prole says:

    Where the hell are Laird George (not of Glaswegie Uni), Master Baiter and TaT tonight? It’s not the same fun! Has Guido slapped a mod on them whilst he’s away baiting Michael Shite and Toenails?

    • 257
      Dr Feelgood says:

      They’re probably all trolling over on the Spectator after Fraser Nelson’s humiliation of Balls today.

      • 266
        Adrian Prole says:

        Poor Speccie. Coffee House will be like a used toilet roll by midnight – if those plonkers are allowed to stay up that long. I’ll hang around for a bit longer, there’s plenty of hooch in the bottle yet.

    • 270
      grobdj says:

      Worst GDP stats for 50 years, negative 4.9%

      Working out what to do about 1 in 20 labour voters losing their jobs before the next election

    • 429

      Dear Prole

      I had to do something for the good of humanity.

      Thank you for missing me but lets be honest, you’re a wank!

      Yours sincerely

      George Laird
      The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

  64. 251
    Agent 99 says:

    Ex Speaker has ‘eminence’ and a seat in the Lords? Troughing continues unabated then

    TAXI!!!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196569/Queen-paves-way-Michael-Martin-peerage-MPs-praise-eminence.html

  65. 253
    caesars wife says:

    bet they portray Guido you as the internet equivalent of a rap artist or michael jackson

    • 256
      Engineer says:

      Guido hasn’t had a heart attack – has he?

      • 263
        Silence Won’t Defeat the B*N*P – Fraser Nelson says:

        I hope not, it’s just an attack of the lilly-livered kind I think.

        • 278
          nell says:

          Don’t Be Silly.!!!

          The only lily livered people I’ve seen today are:

          ed balls who’s talked rubbish about education policy he’s says he has introduced today which gordon promised in 2007 ( and which didn’t happen then and won’t happen now)

          alan johnson who cancelled the Compulsory ID scheme which was to cost £5billion – and has, in fact, cost millions to get it this far, only to be abandoned by this bankrupt government

          and alastair darling who is cowering under the gaitling gun aimed at him by mandy demanding that he cancels the comprehensive spending review until after the next GE.

        • 284
          nell says:

          Guido’s back!!!! He’s just modded me!!!! What’d I do. ????

          I’d like to suggest a modification to modding. When we are modded -I would like to suggest that our number and our name is published for all to see with the comment ‘ you are modded’

          That way all would know which of us and how often we are modded.

          I am not talking about trolls who might just be cut out if they get too offensive – just the rest of us who somehow hit a wrong word or something.

        • 288
          Silence Won’t Defeat the B*N*P – Fraser Nelson says:

          It’s his blog, he can do what he wants. I do find the redaction of legitimate comments rather poor however. Happy to bash the Lib/Lab/Con regime but curiously silent in other ‘areas’.

        • 341
          nell says:

          Well actually I’ve gone to bed but – Re 281 – and my modding – Guido – Care to comment?

  66. 259
    Anon says:

    Has anyone told Brown to fuck off recently? If not fuck off Brown.

  67. 298
    little londoner says:

    Two small stories amongst others today.
    1: Royal Marines jeered by protesters whilst marching in london.Police look on.Daily Mail
    2:Police given powers to arrest any protesters wearing anti olympic t shirts.
    BBC London news.
    New Labour-New Britain

  68. 306
    Adrian Prole says:

    Guido,

    My last post hasn’t appeared – and it wasn’t rude. Is there a maximum of 5 comments to a 3rd sub-nested thread?

  69. 318
    The Beast Of Clerkenwell says:

    White and Toenails at time came across as pretty decen t coves
    Then kept fucking up by saying that the ordinary person really shouldnt be involved the process of law making.
    “Referendums?)
    YES
    They seem to work for the Swiss you wankers!
    I was fucking shocked to find out that the Mps were more normal, I lost my wallet so I assume one of the fuckers nicked it.

  70. 328
    nell says:

    Good night. God Bless .

    Look forward to tomorrow.

    Please Guido hon. would you unmod my comments – especially the one about Passchendaele and Lions Led By Donkeys.

  71. 330
    Boris Carloffe says:

    Just thinking of McMental and wondering how he reconsiles his lying and inability to tell the truth, with his protestations of being ‘Son of the Mance’.

    I surpose his father, the minister of the manse represents probably The Church of Scotland.

    I wonder what officials of this Church think of in one hand implying he in his thinking represents the good of this church,whilst spending his life being totally dishonest.

    Wish they would sue him for deformission as surely he must damage all religious organisations, by implying that he, the worst liar ever in polatics and public life has religios beliefs.

    • 337
      Twizzle says:

      His brain is wired a bit differently to you and me.

      He’s a bloody lunatic, you see.

    • 393
      Moley says:

      A significant number of the worst bastards I have met during my life, went to church every Sunday.

      The German Army went to war with the words “God with us”, on their belt buckles.

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    Qwazymodus Operandy In LunDun says:

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    SSSS

    KORPUS BRAOUWN IS DUING HIS HOMEWURQK SUKKERS

  74. 348
    dirtyden says:

    Liar Brown selling Northern Crock to Tesco – because he’s desperate to flog it before the general election so the Tories don’t get any credit for the rescue, so says The Times.

    Brown’s message to the electorate, as usual: Fcuk You!

    • 351

      So taxpayers rescue it, but the state gets the money?

      Why not give every British Citizen an allocation of shares?

    • 356
      caesars wife says:

      The repayment stats are quite good , govt loan of £27bn in dec 2007 now only £8,9bn left to go , however some debts are so toxic we will have to pay for them and will not be included in sale . so whats the value to Tesco or branson ?? brand is not worth much so it value will reflect balance sheet .perhaps we can start to get a figure on the actual tax payer loss is , just hope pension liabilities go with sale “every little helps”

      CW wonders a lot about these special debts which we cannot find anything about , feels all van helsing , wanting to crow bar coffin lid open to see if “danger toxic” was front for Labour scam open coffin lid to find 10yr IOU note saying “suckers love gordon” .Osbourne was quite right to say “show us the figures” they are after all our figures about our money, i know city thinks Labour are finished , but George in way stood up for mrs & mrs non international corporation who want to see whats going off , bit contemptous of labour if you ask me .

      its only tuesday and labour kim ljong re launch has fizzled out , “pull bang bang ” everyone shot clean out of sky , no nicks or grazes clean score sheet . Labour say typical tories only crow when its there gun , CW thinks tories have gone to spec savers and overcome spiv spin vison fault .

      ID cards going the way of the DODO , but not after asaulting public with rubbish about them and huge bill , bit disappointing really , i had hoped for one of those great dispatch box eras of idealogical exchange , now we find brown holding the lisbon treaty (now in trouble in germany dont why it took them so long) “see ma top of the world ” fireing off as he tries to run off whilst grumbling the tories dont ask proper questions . CW understands after years of pretending to be conservative even inviting mrs Thatcher round for tea , that gordon feels unable to answer tory questions with any great skill , for labours love of sound money and ecnomics has found to be bogus , the bath robe has slipped off only to reveal the romantic tattoo he had done in 97 said “adolf for ever” with a cherubic kinnock firing the arrow .

      Selzter or Hieffer tough call !! but Seltzer hes right is is spedning everyones future , big time , might as well rename treasury 70s Las Vegas, got the mob and a moll .

      i dont get this on think tanks , fair enough some have been utterly wonk and comfy jobs for alledged intelligent people , but I have come round to the idea that think tanks are businesses in need of clients and little else , put woman in window with hardly anything on , blokes will stand and stare and not quibble about the price , same goes for think tanks put out paper with nothing in it , politicians will go why didnt i think of that , just have to call it a PR company instead of knocking shop and good revenue stream from taxpayers for similar service .

      has the age of austerity all ready passed and set to become the century of austerity , cant be too long before government annouce training program for maximising returns on bin rummaging .

      skools statement was about rebuilding on labours education failiures “what we are going to do mr speaker , who if i might add looks fetching in that well cut suite, what we are going to do is create some sort of report card that will report to parents on labour policy targets e.g jamies little face lit up when gordon brown visited and we feel he will do well in the future or sophie has been a problem this term keeps pestering teacher about PSBR being out of control , skool can has advised sophie must be put on rittalin and sent to a secure unit .

      only 6 people have been helped by governments £235mn hosuing re possesion scheme , early target for efficiency savings ??.

      new labour = using childrens futures in hedge funds

      • 385
        Doctor Mick says:

        He doesn’t have to pay VAT on that suit. Kids clothes are exempt.

  75. 359
    |cosmo|politan| says:


    STOP PRESS

    1) Vote Conservative Wreck the United Kingdom

    2) Vote LAbour Conserve the United Kingdom via evoliution toward a federal system.

    If you missed my discussion about this above then tough titties

  76. 362
    genghiz the kahn says:

    new labour = using childrens futures in hedge funds, and then mismanaging them.

    Caesar’s wife forgot Brown = using children as human shields, and not taking questions.

    Has Cameron got a McBribe question for McSnot, based on leaked emails? Plenty of opportunites to kick Brown today. Its time Cameron stuck the crampons on the boots.

  77. 365

    The vain old tart, White, brings to mind a recent piece by Matthew Parris…

    “Iffy upper lip

    And I confess to having found it hard to put a face to the name of Bob Ainsworth, apparently the new Defence Secretary. On seeing it, one thing did strike me. The moustache. A toothbrush-style thing. Apart from appalling injuries to the upper lip there can never be an excuse for wearing a moustache. A beard may be defended as a disinclination to shave, but a moustache is a deliberate attempt to decorate your face with hair, and as such falls into the category of hanging tassels from the ears or attaching bells to one’s shoes.

    Who was the last Cabinet Minister to sport a moustache? Harold Macmillan? Peter Mandelson had to shave his off before he was allowed into politics.

    It won’t do. Either Mr Ainsworth or the bristles must go. Can there be a more graphic illustration of the desperation of Mr Brown’s predicament, than that he has been reduced to promoting men with moustaches? “

    • 366
      nell says:

      Ainsw*rth is a disgrace – just another t*m w*atson/edb type bully boy that gordon has dragged around himself for protection.

      Hardly suitable material for a minister of our Armed Forces. In fact, I think he is an insult to our brave men and women fighting abroad.

      Can’t wait for the end of this awful, odious, government!

      Morning Folks.

    • 367
      hoof-hearted says:

      I think it was Mandy. His moustache made him look like Hitler.

    • 382

      Why spend time cultivating round your mouth what sprouts naturally in the region of the sphincter?

    • 392
      Dr Feelgood says:

      Miliband (D) looks like he’s trying to grow one, but it just might be he’s started puberty.

      • 399
        Chartered Accountant says:

        Parris could never grow one because he’s too effete. He’s just jealous.

        He was a crap MP and an even worse ‘journalist’.

        At least Sir Michael White and the Toynbee horror provoke anger, Parris merely induces sleepiness.

  78. 370
    CARRY ON GOVERNING says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/5706189/Tesco-eye-bid-for-Northern-Rock.html

    Maybe an internet investigation into the favours government has granted to certain big companies would expose the reasons for democracy’s collapse?

    While anti-trust law (end of the article) appears to be the reason given for Lloyds to divest of HBoS, little intervention has ever taken place to require the other big company mentioned to curtial its dominance of the grocery sector.

    WHY?

    The internet already has the answer if you but examine the HaywoodHain consultant type of situation.

  79. 372
    C.h.o.c.o.l.o.t.i.s. says:

    I wonder what motivates tossers like Michael White – I wonder if he even knows that the majority of people don’t even know who he is, and those who do think he is an arse bandit.

    How you can spend your life sitting on the sidelines either sneering or tounging socialist sphincters is beyond me.

    • 377
      Anon says:

      Because it is very easy to do. A non-job if you will. No surprise he’s a nasty traitorous Labour supporting bastard then.

  80. 374
    Swiss Bob says:

    Newsnight is fast becoming great entertainment.

    Here’s Fraser Nelson of the Speccie on ‘Ed Balls is a Liar’ and following, Gove, Croker & Paxo having a punch up. I really think Paxo is losing it:

    Fraser Nelson – “Ed Balls is a Liar”.

    • 380
      I sniff Mandy's arse and I work at the BBC says:

      Paxo has never been a good interviewer. He just asks (then re asks) the predictable questions. He gives Labour politicians an easy time.

      • 383
        Anon says:

        I thought he was going to get up and walk out of the studio last night. He looked depressed, pissed off and totally disinterested in proceedings. Tosser.

        • 422
          barefootcontessa says:

          Agree, he looked as if he’d been completely bamboozled by their devious answers| He let the odious croker off the hook.

  81. 378
    I sniff Mandy's arse and I work at the BBC says:

    Ask SIR Michael shite when he’s going to accept his Knighthood.

  82. 384

    Could this be a sighting of Michael White?

    • 405
      Sir Mufbourne - Harbour says:

      Are we sure that ain’t piles? Anyway I recognise the setting as the acme plutomium mine

  83. 387
    National Express customer says:

    So much for privatisation, part privatisation, franchise or whatever crappy phrase they call it.

    Another failed project. Private business loves it when times are good but raise the white flag and crawl away like cowards when times get tough. How very principled of them. Hoons.

    • 402
      Moley says:

      Private Industry cannot sustain heavy losses indefinitely.

      Government’s can’t either, as they are about to find out.

      Coffee House has a National Debt counter which is going up at £30,000 per second.

    • 423
      barefootcontessa says:

      How much is the ‘retiring’ boss of NE going to scoop for going down the drain – at our expense.?

  84. 408
    Anonymous says:

    Ask Toenails Robinson why he’s up Brown’s backside all the time.

    Do Labour have compromising photos of him or is he just naturally sycophantic to the government?

    • 412
      |cosmo|politan| says:

      I’ll tell ya why..it is because he is paid to professionaly reflect the democratically expressed will of the people. In other words, Let me remind you, Labour WON the last election. The parties get air time AND EMPHASIS respective to their share of the vote and YOU are the only one who has a coup mentality — do you want the BBC to be as fooking daft as you?
      I hope this new found knowledge puts your fevered brain to rest and you will desist from asking any more stupid questions.

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    Disco Biscuit says:

    “Tonight in the House of Parliament Grand Committee room Guido will be re-united with Nick Robinson and Michael White…”

    I’m not sure he’ll appreciate the familiarity, Guido… he prefers the style Sir Michael White to properly reflect his status and superiority…

  87. 426
    JCohen says:

    If someone sold tickets for this, they’d end up making more money than Peter Viggers.

    “TWO MEN, ONE FIGHT. TWO LIARS, ONE WINNER. THE FIGHT OF THE YEAR – AND THIS TIME IT’S PERSONAL.”

    I’ve taken the liberty of preparing some promotion material in the hope of being awarded the lucrative advertising contract that will doubtless precede the fight.

  88. 432

    I haven’t got time to read all the comments so your deletion was collateral damage.







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