The General Election Dividing Line : Truth & Dishonesty
The Tories have accepted Gordon’s dividing lines on cuts versus spending. Gordon seemed to think that he could then just shout “Tory Cuts” and that would be it, 1997 all over again. Only problem being that the economy is in such bad shape there will inevitably be “Labour Cuts”. The Treasury knows it, the Chancellor knows it, Yvette Cooper knows it, Peter Mandelson knows it, the City knows it, the media knows it and the voters understand that it is necessary. Only Gordon thinks his delusional dividing line is plausible. This is why this attack video from the Tories hits the spot (though it goes on a bit too long):
Cameron at PMQs keeps on going at Brown’s credibility. It will succeed as a line of attack because it is true. Brown can’t help himself when it comes to fiddling statistics. The whole success of his chancellorship was based on massaging the numbers…
UPDATE : Politicshome polled 100 Westminster insiders and found that 74% thought that “‘the central ideas that make up Gordon Brown’s policy, political strategy and day-to-day tactics were all developed between 1992 and 1994. He hasn’t had an important idea since.” Which explains why he thinks the “Tory Cuts” line might still work…
Lies will out in the end Gordon.
Everything comes to he who waits
Its always good when a liar is caught out by his own ‘golden rules’, no matter how much he tried to fiddle the stats to back himself up.
Cameron needs to promise the things Gordon won’t give people:
Referendum on the Lisbon Treaty
So Gordon wants to make us think that the Tories will cut public spending.
Gordon, the idea behind party political propaganda is to tell people why they shouldn’t vote for your opponents, not why they should.
Exactly!
He’s got nothing to shout about after 12 years in office so he just attacks his opponents.
Bad strategy Brown.
Mervyn is absolutely BEGGING us to stop spending money
What money?
freddie is thinking of starting a blog need help would a genrel blog chat starring ashes and watching gordon fucking the country be the talking points , all help thankfully recivced
I’ll come on and cause trouble Freddie, if you let me! (not much good at cricket, but gordon is ALWAYS ready for slagging off…
yo i need help on how to set one up i aint that good with pcs
No nor me…Soz Freddie you need one of the technical bloggers…
gonna ring me mate , you reckon it would work ?
Crumbs yes…all the men I know are dotty about cricket, and a large proportion loathe Brown…irresistible combo I’d say :-)
cool would have overseas england games as well and footie chat
Well….I may stick to Guido MAINLY and just visit occasionally then…! :-) (sorry Guido)
hey would take ages to sort out maybe two weeks and i reckon guido no 1 ( although his cricket is a bit bare )
Yes thats what they all say! Good old Guido – top for political gossip and insight – shame about his cricket …. : -)
i only leasrned of guido from prick robison blog so he good for something
Mervyn is also BEGGING to be given real powers of regulation to protect against the manifest malfeasance and failures of self-regulation in the Banks & City.
George Osborne is backing him up to the hilt on this too.
The BoE used to regulate the amount of credit in the economy, the banks used to allocate it.
We need to return to this model, not the infinite credit model of Basel2.
The question I am starting to ask is whether or not Labour even understand how capitalism works? They were always seen as weak on the economy, until Brown came along. When he naively claimed to have single-handedly abolished boom and bust – abolishing the economic cycle – his own side cheered him to the rafters.
I can’t say that Brown ever had me fooled, I always thought he was an idiot, and didn’t think Labour were any better at running an economy than they were in the 1970s. It didn’t stop me liking Tony Blair though, and I had high hopes that he would remove Brown from his post. Sadly, that was not to be the case.
Now we are stuck with Brown – there are no real alternatives in Labour at the moment – until mandelson decides to call an election. Then we will have little choice but to elect the Tories because there is no alternative. Labour are unelectable, and the Lib Dems have no chance unless they start to overtake Labour in the polls consistently.
Lib Dems will never get anywhere until they start to understand the public mood about the EU.
Correction – Merv is begging Gordon to stop borrowing or printing money that he has’nt got and charging it to us – the taxpayer and our children and grand children.
He had a lot of money in the ’90s, the finances were in quite a good situation when newlabour took over, so he spent it all, every last bean, and not wisely. Being an inveterate spendthrift he’s now going to print some so he can spend that too. He’s put the country in hock. We can’t get rid of him. He couldn’t run a piss up in a brewery, let alone a small business. The newlabour party has been rumbled at last. They’re incompetent, second rate, greedy, and corrupt. They’ve been finally rumbled!
barefootcontessa
No we had good Money velocity in the 90s due to less taxes and regulations on economic exchange (i.e. real economic growth).
We replaced MV with credit so the government could tax the shit out of the economy. This false economy has imploded as debt servicing for mal-investment always does
Tell Lies often enough and your start to believe them yourself – Gordon is the best example of this fact.
They neither have the power to make any monetary decisions, they are in the hands of those who control the banks – I SHOULD KNOW.
you are quite right Guido.
the dividing line will be betweem truth and dishonesty.
roll up! roll up for a good old fashioned fight between the honest underdog and the millionaire housing benefit cheat. the main event will be a fight to the death(of the new labour party) and the two contenders are, in order of honesty;
Honest Al **CLAPS** Versus Dodgy Dave **BOOH HISS DODGY C’UNT!**
the tory millionaire benefit cheat is gonna take a hell of a beating.
first things first though, we must chop off brown’s head.
with brown in charge all is lost for labour.
note to brown: FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING WAR CRIMINAL!
YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE.
YOUR PRESENCE HANDS VICTORY TO THE BENEFIT CHEAT YOU FUCKING MORON.
FUCK OFF YOU USELESS WANKER.
THANKYOU.
Leave Dave out of this – in case you havent noticed the tories have been out of power for the last 12 years – although I do agree with you that Brown is a tosser and you by the qualityof your invective are a dickhead.
er, I never voted for new labour and incase you hadn’t noticed the conservative party has been the official oppostion for the last twelve years.
DOH!
what a fucking cripple.
the new labour war and occupation and torture party could not have committed its war crimes without the help of the conservative party.
that makes the tories war criminals as well as tony and gordon and jack, innit?
Seems to me you’re not FOR anything. Against a lot of things but that’s easy – sit on the fence you mouthy get and slag everyone else off but totally lacking in credible ideas of your own. Somebody has to make all this work and the people who try will make mistakes but better that than do nothing like spineless cynics such as you. Basically you are a coward, too timid to make one simple constructive comment in case someone criticises you.
All you do is take the piss and badmouth people. And even in that you are piss poor.
Thick as thieves independent manifesto features exclusively here doctor dick.
Do try to keep up you zionist warmonger.
Your question would be better directed at Gordon ‘war criminal’ Brown and David ‘housing benefit cheat’ Cameron.
That will be all.
Where’s honest Al going to get 200 new candidates from, to replace the thieves in the PLP? Own up, TaT, you know Labour won the troughing competition, in spite of some heroic fraud by Tories.
hey, don’t get me wrong augeas.
I am independent and I am gunning for a hung parliament.
methinks things are going my way.
innit.
A pawn exchange would be highly advantageous to the Tories. The problem is that Labour have too many Queens.
oh gary, you aren’t gay bashing are you?
fucking hell, you russians are a bunch of anti gay white supremacist motherfuckers!
be careful, or a big butch gay guy might grab you by your scrawny neck and cave your fucking skull in for being such a racist homophobe.
I would not stop him gary because the great thick as thieves is not anti gayist like you. I fully supports gay peoples right to be gay (I do have some reservations and am undecided about ugly lesbians, ofcourse.)
простите меня, пожалуйста. It was talking about chess. What the ебать are you talking about?
TAT, I said “pawn” not “prawn”.
you lose.
thick as thieves wins.
game over.
Tony the farmer was in the fertilised egg business He had several hundred young laying hens (pullets) and eight or ten roosters, whose job was to fertilise the eggs.
Tony kept records and any rooster that didn’t perform went into the soup pot and was replaced. That took an awful lot of his time so he bought a set of tiny bells and attached them to his roosters. Each bell had a different tone so Tony could tell from a distance, which rooster was performing. Now he could sit on the porch and fill out an efficiency report simply by listening to the bells.
Farmer Tony’s favourite rooster was old Gordon, and a very fine specimen he was too. But on this particular morning Tony noticed old Gordon’s bell hadn’t rung at all!
Tony went to investigate. All the other roosters were chasing pullets, bells-a-ringing. The pullets, hearing the roosters coming, would run for cover. But to farmer Tony’s amazement, Gordon had his bell in his beak, so it couldn’t ring. He’d sneak up on a pullet, do the business and walk on to the next one.
Tony was so proud of Gordon, he entered him in the West Berks County Fair and Gordon became an overnight sensation among the judges. The result was the judges not only awarded Gordon the No Bell Peace Prize but they also awarded him the Pulletsurprise as well.
Clearly Gordon was a politician in the making: Who else but a politician could figure out how to win two of the most highly coveted awards on our planet by being the best at sneaking up on the populace and screwing them when they weren’t paying attention.
It’s just so sad that the country had to go through a financial and social experiment with him, pissing away the gains made from 1979 to 1997.
He should be hung for treason.
Julia by nature thinks:
No worries, Eric. Beyond the oak tree, there is the BoE Governor shoving it into the face of lying barstewards in Parliament today. Britain is bankrupt because overpaid, underworked career politicians made it so, with no discernible benefit to anyone but themselves; that brat class of wannabe Big Brothers, and Sisters.
Game over now. The BoE and international debt markets are so very fed up with petty political machinations in the UK; the career politicos who steal from their own people, and reward themselves inflation busting pay, perks, and pensions.
Enough already. The UK is an innovative, honourable place beyond Westminster. The world knows that, and will act accordingly, although Ayatollah Politicos will resist. Boo hoo. They lose because they sicken those more influential than their petty provincial corrupt selves.
Today Brown’s stratergy of Tory cuts vs Labour investment has been outed.
Personally, I’m not keen on negative campaigning but the gloves are off as far as I’m concerned especially after this pile of crap…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAw6fO0Xn1s
Don’t know where they found these people….
Second that
Out, damn’d Scot! out, I say!
Gordon goes down the steps and locks the door in his secret cellar. No one is allowed in here. The “Gimp” room he knows the staff call it. He does not care. For in here, where Whitney Houston still plays “I Will Always Love You” and Kylie Minogue stares out of the cover of Juice magazine Gordon can relax.
Gordon quickly consults his Men Behaving Badly desk calendar. There is still time. He powers up his IBM windows 3.1 version. The Eldorado screen saver fades away to reveal his masterpiece. Gordon has been working on it ever since he first conceived the idea when he saw a clip for a film that would change his life. Groundhog Day.
That was it. Gordon would fight every battle like it was 1992. The Tories would always be Major’s Tories of 1992. Maastricht would be their Achilles. The ERM was their biggest weakness.The city would never trust the Tories again. Not after Black Wednesday. So Brown formulated a strategy to re fight 1992, with the lessons learned for New Labour, forever.
The outside world might change, but in here, in his special chamber,he would control events and the Fiat Punto would always be cutting edge.
*Applause*
* Double Applause *
Brown is just a fucking shit sniffer. I heard Toenails shilling for him on The Daily Politics today as well. Note that TOENAILS is the only journalist not to have called Brown nose a liar over the Labour cuts. Jon Snow, Adam Bolton and the excellent Tom Bradby have all outed the one eyed queen for being a liar.
Lies won`t do for brown, cos the bastard has no shame.
Great Dancer though!
The Penguin
This has been doing the rounds for a little while now but I still think it’s brilliant. It & ‘Fuck You Gordon Brown’ are definitely the top political musical hits for 2009.
Very good! My nomination is this – speakers down if you’re still at work though!
Credit: Youtube user MrRedpath
PMSL Steve!!!! That is one annoyingly catchy tune, altogether now….
“He’s a cnut, he’s a cnut, he’s a cnut….”
Thanks Steve that’s excellent.
Heheh.. Put into music what the rest of us were thinking. (Still can’t help but flick Vs at the television set every time Broon’s stupid head appears on it.)
Can’t believe there are only 68,218 signatures on the No.10 web site, asking him to resign. (Still, nearly x2 the next largest.)
#97 He’s becoming a George W Bush clone, Same smiling expression! Where is Dave Obama?
Conservatives by a landslide then – if they get their act together.
With each day that passes, the Tory majority after the election is going up. Dave would have to do something really stupid to lose from here.
When the Govenor of the Bank says that there is no money left we really are fucked, he’s usually full of diplomatic language, but he certainly wasn’t too diplomatic today!
Why the fuck should they get in? Just because they have more MPs currently?
What are you suggesting? Lib Dem landslide?
I wouldn’t vote Tory tomorrow unless a miracle happened
OOh my water just turned into wine!
Lucky you NewGirl – I wish mine would do that too, all my wine mysteriously vanished last night!
Ha ha yes I have to admit that I may have overindulged a little….
NG, I don’t think you were the only one – a rather amusing thread when read back sober!
I daren’t!
yeah, best not to new girl.
you made a bit of a tit of yourself.
my stuff’s very good though, well worth a second read.
NewGirl – Be careful….
Don’t worry Engineer I will. And I’m sober now too.
Phew. Let’s get on with the serious job of helping Guido’s mission to improve politics, and have a laugh too.
I really like this blog. It’s like being back in the Design Office. There was serious work being done (very serious indeed, some of it) but there was always humour – dry comments, wry observations, out-and-out hilarity at times. It always seemed to break out at moments of high stress. D.O. humour was always a couple of grades above shop-floor or site.
We have it here too. Good, genuine, honourable people who care very deeply about their country, and are concerned enough to spend some time supporting Guido. We’ve got to stick together and support each other, and have a laugh together along the way. I really enjoy the banter and chat, and the flirty bits (a lot – if I’m honest).
But it’s an anonymous blog, and it stays that way.
Well said Engineer, spot on!!
Of course! You don’t think I’d let the trolls get me do you…..? Can you imagine? TwaT pitching up for a cuppa tea?
PS What flirty bits?I keep missing those… :-)
Aaarrgh! Women!
Ha ha ha
New thread – EU theme.
Guido’s wrong – the voters do not understand the cuts that are necessary. An incoming chancellor will have to make cuts in each budget, every year, over the whole term of the government. They will be relentless and demoralizing. It’s not a case of trimming the fat – more like losing a limb (one if we’re really lucky). The yowling from the bleeding stump will be horrendous…
There are few options left for creating a new economic bubble out of new technology. Windmills are not going to work for China, India, etc. Perhaps someone will reveal a family-sized flying saucer, in which the credit-worthy might fly away from a rumoured alien invasion…
Cut early cut hard, all in one go, then grow.
A better tactic might be for Cameron to ask Brown when he is going to start taking the advice of the Governor of Bank of England to cut borrowing and public spending.
The meat of the matter Angus. And your amputation metaphor is apt too. The leg has gangrene. Brown offers to cut off the foot. Cameron the whole leg. If you were the patient which would you chose?
We must not be complacent. Cameron is proving Brown to be a liar. But WE already new that. It is only 5% of the voters that needs to believe Brown for that landslide to slip away.
I agree, cuts will be necessary. However, the top 15% – 20% of employees in any institution take over 50% of the wages. Unfortunately, the people at the top are the people who do the cutting and unsurprisingly cut the staff at the bottom of the pile. The problem with this is that many lives have to ruined to have a sufficient effect. A rational alternative would be to cut from the top not the bottom. People at the top have reserves to fall back on and the skills to find alternative employment.
Taxes could be raised with less complaint amongst the general population if we knew that the money was going to be spent locally and wisely. The US model of hypothecated taxes should surely be part of the discussion.
The sad truth is that taxes are going to go up, and spending is going to go down. The cuts will be amongst frontline staff in critical functions and so service standards will go down, even if you can focus as many cuts as possible on the non-jobs in areas that the Government shouldn’t be meddling in the first place.
If there is one thing that the expenses scandal has proved it is surely that with sufficient transparency people will get engaged and involved. Devolution works, we just need more of it.
The easiest 1st cut would be the cancellation of the dozens of unnecessary database projects, which would save billions immediately, and also save maintenance bills later. That would allow a year to devise a sensible 5 year plan (ha). Privatising the BBC is a no-brainer, but could be done inside 1 year.
A complication is that the patient has severe spongiform encelopathy – gutting and/or tearing the heart out would not fix this – the self-fulfilling psychosomatic fantasy of Elfin Safety must be exorcised. Some physio would be good too: “See these… they’re called fingers. When they move, you can make things with them”.
The cuts need to happen straight away, not over a period of years.
I think that Broon is being generous caling Dave “Mr 10%”, if the Parliament runs to term it might well have to be 20%, unless the incoming government want to call in the IMF?
The difficulty now is in persuading the people that such cuts are necessary – not us lot here but the average man in the street…
Cut Brown’s pension, along with those for the rest of the thieves from XanUlabour.
I reckon we’re half way there, if not further. Everywhere I go these days, when the subject comes up, pretty much everyone thinks we’ve got too much into debt and we have to scale back. That’s t*xi-drivers, barb*rs, you name it. Public opinion, at least in my neck of the woods, is fairly strongly leaning to the Conservative position, if it hasn’t actually arrived there yet.
The cuts do not need to cause national misery -there is so much waste throughout the public sector finances that a competent government could make really serious savings with minimal effect on services. The pain would be felt where it is deserved, among the armies of consultants and quangocrats who add no value to our infrastructure or services.
The Taxpayers’ Alliance have produced various documents showing where the waste is – the only criticism I have seen of them is that they are right wing (so what, if their analysis is coherent?) and that they are funded by Lord Ashcroft (a typical NuLab smear of guilt by association – playing the man rather than the ball).
What remains to be seen is whether Dave and his pals have the balls or the economic competence to make it happen. At least the penny has dropped about matching McSnot’s spending plans, although they are still running scared of putting forward a properly budgeted set of proposals.
Of course the way Brown thinks he will pull the rabbit out of the hat is by pumping inflation into the system, if he can get it up to 12% he will be able to make 10% cuts in real terms and spend 2% more in nominal money. The pound will of course go to shit.
I suggested earlier that maybe Dave should turn up at PMQs with a copy of the Grauniad’s job section, and ask Broon the Hoon what a “Diversity and Ethnic Monitoring Director” does, and why they earn more than an MP.
There are more management consultants than clinical consultants now in the NHS, that surely says it all.
The whole subject of non-jobs and quangocrats makes me absolutely furious!!
rubbish. the bulk of overspending in UK is wages and headcounts: highest paid GPs in Europe, 10,000s more teachers/assistants etc. UK will follow Ireland, eastern Europe with across the board wage cuts dressed up as extra pension contributions etc. then it will cut hundreds of thousands of heads. Borrowing £200bn a year on a total spend of £600bn tells you that wages and headcounts must be smashed. Anyone who says otherwise is an innumerate fool or a bricking-it vested interest.
Of course it is wages and headcounts – to useless managers, crooked suppliers, multinational construction companies, business process reeingineers, change management experts, customer facing whatever the shit. Teachers earn sod all, and cutting them will make no difference, but if you hire them and nurses etc from agencies at 3 x their wages, oddly enough Mr Numerate you have tripled your bill for no benefit.
I’m not bricking it – I have enough money (all tax paid) in three currencies to last a lifetime. It just saddens me that people jerk off about doom rather than trying to be constructive.
Asian ten-year economic planning seems to work even during this recession. Singapore is a small but economically successful country with a dominant Party system. It encourages government accumulation of wealth via pre-payment and high road taxation and other schemes and keeps corporate and personal taxation low.
Their success appears due to government ten-year, forward planning programming. Private and Government sector developments have to be able to fit into the forward planning. The system works and allows for economic changes as technology and markets develop.
The government carefully monitors the populace to enable living standards to be met (public works projects etc.) and to ensure integration of ethnic groupings.
The Parliamentry candidates are aslo carefully selected from the initial conscripts (national service) and then, rising stars are groomed via industrial and government work experience.
They have also kept corporal (including caning) and capital punishment.
Education is highly prioritised and the only downside appears to be the stress factor in some pupils, from the highly competitive system.
Interestingly, they built their constitution and governance on the British system!
Never mind the alleged cuts to ’schools ‘n hospitals’ as McBust tries to suggest – the real saving would come from a wholesale cull of quangos. This is where the real money is being bled from the economy, and in truly vast quantities.
Cameron’s second biggest problem will be getting re-elected. His first is that Mandelson already knows that. The only government that stands a chance of staying in office will be the one that wins the 2015 election.
The solution? Cameron win in 2010. He persuades the Queen that a National Government is necessary due to the state of the economy. Brown is re-appointed as Chancellor and he is forced by Cameron to carry out the necessary cuts.
Please don’t disturb my dreams.
Oi mate – you’re dreaming!!
The country is fucked Guido – what about the idea of a national council tax strike to force a geberal election before Lisbon happens? What else can we do apart from put a .303 through Gekko’s skull?
Excellent idea.
A .303 might be a bit strong and pass through the twats head.
A .22 bounces around the skull and will eventually hit the brain no matter how small and deluded. For legal reasons i am not suggesting anyone has a pop though.
Anyhow don’t forget to SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL GUNSHOP.
We have your name and number – expect a visit at 4am tomorrow morning – we shall not have ID numbers on show,but we have a few H&K’s cocked and ready.
Don’t forget,we are NOT like Iran – we only shoot people when they are underground and out of sight.
Wot, like David Kelly you mean?
Or carrying a chair-leg.
Do it right, use a Barrett Light 0.5 Cal – three rounds should suffice.
The Penguin
Or Ian Tomlinson?
Or John Charles de Menezes?
Or Mark Saunders?
Mark Saunders is not the first person to be shot dead by Met police officers since Jean Charles de Menezes was killed in 2005. The Independent Police Complaints Commission has investigated four deaths since then.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/may/08/ukcrime.ukguns
And that is just the Met…
It would be sutch a shame if GB had his brains blown out.! They must be worth a fortune, because they have never been used. We can rule out a shot to the heart, because the cnut dosen’t have one. So just riddle the Bastard from the neck down.!
Sorry but Mark Saunders was firing indiscriminately into neighbouring houses. He deserved to be shot dead.
Off topic though isnt it.
If you want to hit his brain, shoot him up the arse!
Or looking like Bambi’s mum.
Shooting Brown up the arse is a win win situation. That way you get Mandy as well.
And toenails
I am Communities Minister. Any malarkey with Community Tax payments will be immediately referred to Sir Philip Mawer. You are warned.
I am Independent Adviser to the Government. You may cancel your debit debit mandate to pay the Community Charge, but if you do this you will have to pay in cash. If challenged on payment by your council, just turn up with bank statements which show sufficient ATM cash withdrawals during the year. You should be wholly exonerated.
Putting a bullet through Gekko’s skull would achieve nothing, for there is nothing inside for the bullet to disrupt.
Other countries have shown the way with their Orange Revolutions. Why the British are so bloody supine is beyond me. We should be out on the streets each and every day protesting for our democratic rights. If the Iranians can try to stand up to their vicious tyrrany, why can’t we stand up to ours (which is a house of cards in any case, just waiting to be blown down)?
Not a bad idea at all ENLA but probably too general to achieve sufficient support by the population as a whole to be effective. What you need is an identifiable very specific cause which can be targeted. You also need a strategy which does not require many people to act because although a march can be instigated, a long drawn out conflict is hard to sustain.
Refusal of a relatively small number (probably 100 would do) of people to pay local tax would cause such turmoil in the local revenue offices to be analogous to a denial of service attack on a web site. The trouble is that they could be picked off one by one.
Here is an idea then.
A local campaign to remove a corrupt MP, say, (spoiled for choice aren’t we, but the Keens spring to mind) could be very effective. What I would suggest is that a group of people pay their local tax less one pound until the MP is forced to stand down. The LA would be compelled to pursue them for the outstanding amount in fear that the numbers and the amount withheld would snowball, as indeed it might. A friend in local government tells me that it costs in the region of 10,000 GPB to pursue a tax defaulter in the courts. Obviously, the protester coughs up the quid at the last possible moment, but the cost and disruption to the LA would be catastrophic.
It would be extremely embarrassing for the Government. I suspect in the first instance they would attempt to defend the MP attacked, but the warfare I propose is so asymmetric that if sustained they would fail. If they were seen to be unable to defend their MPs I suspect the Government would collapse.
The newlabour Debt tax will be more than 10%
Isn’t Gordon Brown already a dead duck?
Shouldn’t the line of attack be the weakness in the Labour’s front bench with nobody strong enough to unseat him.
When does the Duck season start?
Started already by the look of it – here’s an unusually critical piece from Liebour’s media wing:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8117341.stm
I hope this is followed up, because these two deserve it.
I agree. If they haven’t actually lived in the house then let the council take it back. Bloody shysters!
If anthing is done about this you will hear the screams that a Tory Council is targetting them for being a highly regarded couple of Honourable? Labour MP,s who cannot afford a Tube ticket to get home of an evening.
Use it or lose it. About the same as Baroness Uddin.
When the shit hits the fan, Ma’Llard.
Duckhouse perhaps? and yes dead as in dodo dead but won’t lie down and admit it, same way as he handles the matter of blatant lying really, socialist relativism is his Bible.
It’s not a case of nobody’s strong enough to unseat Brown, it’s that not one of these spineless turds has the bottle to say enough is enough.
Having said that, they’re all clinging on to their wages and expenses for another year.
Who’s going to employ the twats then?
Cooking the books seems to be Brown’s forte.
Perhaps a role as a third-rate TV chef beckons when he finally gets kicked out.
JacqBoots can teach him how to be a cookery teacher.
Don’t you mean “crookery”?
Can you download the video for a hands-on lesson? Jacqui Does Redditch is getting a bit dull these days.
Would you eat anything that woman dished up
Gordon seems to be under the very misguided opinion that the taxpayers are all here for his benefit.
Trotting out the same old lies about the state of the economy and expecting us to believe them is like trying to tell my grandson it’s bedtime, at 10 o’clock in the morning.
They still haven’t got it, have they!
Will they ever get it!?
I personally think that Brown is emotionally incapable of admitting to himself that he has well and truly buggered the economy.How such a perpetual liar managed to wheedle his way into 10 Downing Street amazes me.If the man had a shred of his much vaunted “son of the manse” honesty and integrity he would quit tomorrow for the electorate’s sake instead of prolonging the country’s agony in a vain, forlorn and very expensive gamble to prop up his own grossly over inflated ego.
From Burns to the Liar.
a reminder!:-
But Mousie, thou art no thy lane,
In proving foresight may be vain:
The best laid schemes o’ mice an’ men
Gang aft agley,
An’ lea’e us nought but grief an’ pain,
For promis’d joy!
Still thou are blest, compared wi’ me!
The present only toucheth thee:
But och! I backward cast my e’e,
On prospects drear!
An’ forward, tho’ I canna see,
I guess an’ fear!
Why does McSnotgobbler always tell us that he was the son of a nonce.
If my father was a nonce I would tell no bastard.
I hope he don’t end up in gaol.
I hope he does.
Because people will think he’s ever so pure, nearer to god, and therefore more lovable, like his friend tony blair.
If you just listen to it you could be in the chillout tent at Glasto.
And smells just the same, no doubt.
More of a whiff of piety.
Sometimes feels like we’re camping in mud and sh*t.
Drowning out here. I’m looking forward to some time out in there.
“Any man who finds himself on a bus after the age of 30 can count himself a failure”.
Gordon Brown = Bus Passenger
fare dodger
The nutter who always ends up sitting next to you.
I used to be Prime Minister you know.
Fuck off Brown.
Even Nick Robinson’s saying Broon lied now
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2009/06/mervyns_done_it.html
Mervyn King is leading the news saying the country’s finances are completely fucked (to paraphrase) and the OCED are right behind him.
EVERYONE knows that the figures don’t add up – everyone, that is, except Gordon fucking Broon.
In the name of God, go. General election tomorrow please, so we can throw the fucker out.
Those Brown Shoots of recovery are now clearly visible.
You can smell them – they are not shoots!!
Only the vowels are wrong.
The Penguin
They are SHIRTS
More the shoots turn out to be the caps of fungus displaying the rot that is rampant underneath.
There must be decay before there can be renewal. And, oh boy, have we got decay….
No quick recovery, unless some fucker shoots Brown.!
Or clearly risible?
Today could just be the day that we look back and say that Brown was finally finished. His own backbenchers are ripping him apart in the Iraq enquiry debate.
Incompetence, spinning, lying, treating us like fools. For God’s sake go Brown, Stop degrading this country and it’s people – you are finished.
Remind me: when was this originally posted? Do I win a Guido mug if I guess the year?
Yup Rexel, I’m going to buy a souvenir copy of the Telegraph tomorrow and add it to my mountain of informationclearinghouse.info paperwork as I hope justice will be done with regard to illegal war and loss of life
Brown is mentally constipated.
I thought the problem was that he has the Trots.
But will he give evidence under Oates?
Just heard an absolutely brilliant, evocative speech by Richard Shepard in the Iraq War Inquiry debate. He followed an honest appeal by John McDonnell for a complete throwing out of the government’s plans and a re-asssertion of the power of MPs to hold the executive to account. Stunning!
I saw that too. I thought he put his point over well. This man sounds like a politician with conviction – a very rare find!
Shep was my large punt for speaker but now he is doing what he is good at
Bloody shame he didn’t do it before then!!
The problem is, that there are only about 30 of them listening. The ones at the top are probably at their respective clubs – or in the HoC bar!
This is Gordon. He is intelligent but he suffers from Number Blindness. Gordon can make speeches, appear on YouTube and throw staplers but he just cannot grasp that, say, 44 billion is a bigger number than 16 billion. As with Jack Straw, maths is just not his strong suit. His counting system is “one, two, three, many”. He would get no higher a grade than B at GSCE and it saps his confidence. People easily judge him as stupid. Yet through sheer hard work Gordon holds down an important job in Westminster!
Please help Gordon and others like him – send your donation to Numberblind, PO Box 666B, Hamilton, Bermuda.
Numberblind – it all adds up!
Well, he was never any good at maths – he said so.
Hey, that’s my box number. Keep the donations coming. I know a guy called Guido (no, not that one) with a mate called Carlo that can do the correct thingy about Gordon. Does not involve any loud noises, but VERY effective.
Just as soon as we hit the first mil, it’s all over. Trust me.
More like numberwang !!! 7, 67, 3 1/2, eleventeen, 109 – THAT’S NUMBERWANG – THAT’S GOVERNMENT FINANCIAL POLICY….
Gordon had a brain fart in 92 since then he has been intellectually constipated and his head is now so full of shit he could explode any minute.
I would have said intellectually challenged, but there you are.
You may believe that this country’s financial situation is actually entrusted to a man who can’t use a pocket calculator properly, if you wish. It is a free world (not), and it takes all types to inhabit it.
However to believe so is clearly an act of brainwashed stupidity.
If you can not see that Brown has been taking his orders from a much higher level of government by now, you should be extra careful when you next attempt to cross the road.
Please be reminded the establishments BBC put Brown where he is, and has kept him there long enough to borrow us all into eternal poverty. While of course hiding all of this pure evil and utter dishonesty from the electorate for as long as the corporation dared.
It’s not that he’s thick or anything. He can’t use a calculator because of his big fat stubby bitten-at baguette-like fingers.
Fucking lizards again!
Dear Prime Minister,
I know you have been somewhat busy over the last couple of weeks, what with the expenses conflict and all, but I’ve noticed that you haven’t removed any more of my human rights over that period?
Perhaps you could ask Alan Postman to take a look at this matter as a matter of some urgency?
Yours unconditionally,
Winston Gimp
How many more times do we have to tell you? They are not “Labour Cuts”, they are “Tough Choices”
British Cuts For British Workers!
The Penguin
The Tory Cuts line will work all right. For the Conservatives. I’ll vote for the party promising the biggest cuts.
Two simple tax cuts.
Leave the EUSSR.
Make the TV-Tax subscription.
Any excuse to post this:
Belgium (both of them, or all three if you count the German-speakers) used to fund its Public Service television channels with a television licence. As a tax, it failed – due to mass abstentionism from people who claimed never to watch TV, or to even own one.
One day, the government announced the TV licence will be abolished (Yay!). In an unconnected announcement, the equivalent of Council Tax is to be raised by an amount which amply covers the revenue lost TV revenue. Pretending that the house you live in does not exist, or is not yours, is not an option.
The £6 levy on having a phone line looks like a very similar manoeuvre. The BBC has outflanked the anti-licence fee movement – and can claim that it is doing us a favour by raising funds to upgrade the infrastructure we need to watch its iPlayer service.
Start with 50% cuts – MP’s salaries, Cost of Parliament, Bank execs. Bonuses, Quangos, Council spending – follow the new Mayor of Doncasters example, – Politically correct jobs, Two thirds of councillors. – Overdraft rates – bank charges etc etc.,
Cameron was attacking at PMQs ?????
I think you’ll find pouty putulance is not quote the same as an attack.
Hague can attack and attack extremly well.
Many in the Iraq debate clearly also knew how to attack very effectively.
But attacking with force still eludes Wavy Davy with his quavering peevishness. Even against such a slow moving massive target like Brown.
Methinks that Dave is leaving the slow moving target in place for the whole world to see what a fucking idiot he is…..’tis not rocket science..why knock him out now….when there could be 10 months for labour to work their way back up.
Keep labour in place…they will keep digging, and wont be able to climb back out, then “socialism” will be consigned to history , for ever
Jeeeeesus Cheeriiiist! Not this hilarious horseshit again.
Dave’s DELIBERATELY crap is he ? Yet again ? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
And I thought Labour Spin was pathetic.
Watch some of the Iraq debate to see how it’s done as many here clearly already have.
Labour definitely seem hellbent on losing this Election but Dave isn’t going to win it at this rate unless he get’s a fucking grip.
And if you don’t understand the difference it’s a huge majority that can quell oppostion to your plans both internal and external, and a tiny majority that turns your Government into a rolling car crash like the dying years of Major.
’tis not spin my friend…just my opinion,…if cam did go in for the kill at next PMQ’s and fatallty wounded gorgon, then what.
Will there be an immediate general election, No…. a new Labour leader, No
Labour had thier chance to fucking dump brow…but non had the fucking back bone.
and 27 to 30 % will still bote labour if you put shit on a stick and placed a red rosette on it.
and i did watch the Iraq inq today….nowt else better to do since i lost my job 6 months ago thanks to nufuckin labour, im living of my savings (not much left)..but i will be damned if im cleaning fucking toilets for 5 fucking 70 odd an hr. and Hauge was good, …….but i remeber he couldnt shake Blair.
and a debate is a little different to PMQ’s
“Fatally wounded Gorgon”
Apart from being a flight of fancy bourne out by Wavy Davy’s inability to land punches on him when his cabinet was falling apart, what EXACTLY do you mean ? Because beyond mere rhetoric your statement IS utterly meaningless.
As you realise there will be no immediate Election even if Dave got his shit together and there will be no Leadership Challenge. YET. So fatally wounded is impossible. THe Opposition should inflict as much damage to the Government as possible. That’s the ballgame. Any excuse about Dave’s poor performance at PMQ’s lately therefor is just that. An excuse & spin.
You are also incorrect about Brown being safe for ever because come late uutumn & Conference season if Brown hasn’t turned his disasterous polling around Johnson & Milliboy are waiting and their supporters will strike.
Even Mandy knows this and admitted it.
I’m not defending these clowns as Brown is a calamitous PM and New Labour was always a series of Lies wrapped in Public Relations.
You have hit the nail on the head with your comments about the Recession. No matter what the Punch and Judy, no matter what Speaker it is the Public wants out of a terrible recession and they want someone they can trust to do so.
After Expenses frankly they trust none of the Parties but they will boot out Labour pretty damn fast if everything is still in the crapper in a year as it happened on New Labour’s watch and they bear responsibility so Cameron is the worst of two evils and they will plump for him. But the victory could be slight or great and that is entirely in how HE performs not just Brown.
Any coedian worth his laughs will tell you that timing is everything.
In debate not only is the point made important but its intonation, pause and steely delivery would destroy Brown in just a few seconds.
Cameron just doesn’t have it.
Try watching Alex Salmond kippering the opposition, admittedly duds, in Holyrood.
Brown will not head to head with Salmond, doesn’t ven return his calls.
Funny that?
The problem for Dave is that he must allow McMental to survive until the Election, to let him carry on liying and fucking things up.
Anyone but Brown will do better than him, noone could be worse, so its in Dave’s interest to keep him in power to maximise the Tory majority
Apologies for posting off topic, but have just watched Labour MP Andrew Mackinlay explode during the Iraq Inquiry Debate. I’m convinced he hates that lying kunt Brown just has much as we do!
He exploded when questioning David Kelly…….
Millitwat was telling his minister not to give way to Mackinlay when he wanted to press the question on evidence under oath.Not surprising for a government of liars.
I’m glad Richard Shepherd was unsuccessful in his speaker bid. He is doing a stirling job in the house of bringing the criminal Blair a few steps closer to Den Haag.
Not just Blair! Lest we forget Powell and Cambell (Blair’s own Bormann and Goebbels). Butchers bathed in blood!
Scarlett (chairman of JIC) too I hope.
O/T, but was listening to the tail end of the PM programme on R4. Interview with a Parliamentary Tailor, about changes to the Speaker’s garb over the last couple of decades.
Interviewer: You made the Speaker’s coat?
Tailor: Oh, yes.
Interviewer: Did you make the stockings, as well?
Tailor: No, they probably got those at Ann Summers.
No wonder there have been changes to the garb…..
There is a danger in the tories attacking the mad clown too much. I dont think he will be around at the next election, stepping down to take the flak off Labour and protect at least some vestige of honour in Labour history.
Have you noticed how even more imbecilic he has been since the Euro elections?
I think there has been a deal which sees Mandy taking many decisions as the pseudo PM he is – like the stupid Iraq inquiry in private to protect his bum pal Blair.
This leaves Broon time to play his stupid games, lower, higher! To me, he looks like a pressure has been taken off his shoulders so he can now play with the other toddlers in the sandpit.
His doctor has just increased his meds, nothing to see here. He could hardly get a coherent word out today. He was stuttering even more, needed to cough but wouldn’t and was generally an embarrassment on a global scale.
Fuck him over as much as possible. He has blood on his hands and deep down he knows it.
Yep – keep the punches going deep into his body – punch him until he is knocked out – then bring on the Postman – who will only ever ring once.
As previously posted, I reckon Gordon will quit in the New Year, having recognised that his sons need him to be around more during their early years etc etc. That will enable a successor to emerge without obvious blood on his hands and, as the General Election will get underway almost immediately, the successor will be reassured that he won’t be blamed for an awful showing in the polls and can stay on to re-build (always assuming he doesn’t lose his seat). I bet Mandy promised all this to Johnson, Miliband and the bulk of back-benchers as a trade-off for them supporting Brown after the local/euro elections. Last Saturday’s Guardian interview was clearly part of the preparation for Brown’s departure.
Heaven help Brown’s sons if after he gets kicked out he decides to practice his new career as a ‘teacher’ on them.
I’m sure like me most of us has in our youth come across some good teachers and probably more very bad ones, who have no aptitude for teaching.
Brown has no abilities at all apart from lying and he’s beginning to get caught out at that and so noone could be a worse teacher than Brown. For the country’s good we’ve had one useless Brown, make sure we, in the future dont get two more ‘taught’ by their useless father.
On the other hand if he teaches them they will fail in life, and not be noticed like their useless father, who must have had good teachers to achieve anything out of such a useless pupil
Cam nailed the Gorgon at PMQ’s actually getting him to admit the word “fall” as in public spending. A fall is a cut Gorgon and SKY did lead with this at 5pm.
Pravda did not, instead leading with some chaps moaning about Bagram priz.
The OECD & Merv have both laid in to Gorgon and Darling the puppet. Would not like to be the Gorgons therapist tonight. Nokia shares up again.
Oh this is delicious.
Will we be seeing the Keens resigning.
MPs dubbed ‘Mr and Mrs Expenses’ face having main home repossessed – because it’s been empty for SEVEN months
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1195280/Expenses-scandal-husband-wife-MPs-Alan-Ann-Keen-face-home-repossession.html
The case raises questions as to why they are claiming for a second home when their designated main home, within commuting distance of the Commons, is apparently empty. Their declaration of the Brentford property as their primary residence allows them to claim second homes allowances on their central London flat. They were already facing questions as to why they needed the flat given that the Brentford home is only 10 miles from the Commons.
According to the Daily Telegraph, they have claimed almost £40,000 a year on the flat, which overlooks the Thames, since they bought it in 2002.
Shadow housing minister Grant Shapps said: ‘It is deeply ironic that the Labour Government’s powers to allow the state confiscation of private property will be utilised against absentee Labour Members of Parliament.’
Keen upance, hopefully. Mrs Keen can join Uddin in Holloway
Udders has skipped to Banglaland before they seize her.
I knew it. Shame she didn’t take Malik with her as her ‘house/palace’ boy.
7 months ago eh? Probably about the same time they saw this shit storm vectoring for final approach.
Worse.
“I’ve dug down into the expenses for Health minister Ann Keen – and it turns out she has submitted claims for a private hospital.”
http://waugh.standard.co.uk/2009/06/ann-keen-in-fresh-trouble-exes-claims-for-private-hospital.html
Hat Tip Iain Dale
haha, those two are toast. Either way they will have to resign or will be booted out by the electorate.
Two (hopefully jail) birds with one stone. Rejoice. I’m seriously considering buying a lifetime subscription to the DT.
Good work!
The Penguin
For the tiniest nanosecond, some weeks back, I felt a glimmer of sympathy for the delusional auld sod but it passed quickly and I’ve suffered no after-effects. There’s no way he can get away with his lies for much longer. The attack video is great on the message but the music is so boring and could do with livening up. If anyone missed pmqs today, you’ll find some video clips here:
http://callingengland.blogspot.com/
wow – watch the debate live – this is dynamite – this corrupt govt is twisting and turning like a fish on a hook.
Millband looks like a 16yr kid
Aintworth it looks like a bus conductor and the wanker Rammell seems to be a school deputy running riot while the Head Teacher is away on holiday.
We are watching the dying days of Brown – worst PM ever!
Just watching it. Where the f*ck IS everyone? There are more empty seats than at a Kajagoogoo comeback gig.
Hear hear
there seem to be a lot more now they are voting!
Odd there were so few defences of the eventual outcome. Cowardly scum.
:-0
If we are watching the dying days of Brown, I wish someone would give him a helping hand to pass over to the other side.
Don’t worry it would’t increase global warning because the fat bastard is far too lazy to stoke the fire too much. We can only hope the Devil will beat him for not working hard enough and let him suffer in damnation
I thought they had been talking bollocks less than usual recently. Then I found out why:
Talking Bollocks
Lots of air-pistolling in the Iraq debate. Rammell’s doing it double-barrelled.
Rammell’s a twat – sod the opposition proper- the public need to be properly served.
Hasn’t young Milipede gone a funny colour?
That pale yellow blend of fear and cowardice.
Too many bananas!
The Penguin
Yes, maybe he’s got something terminal! One can hope.
Bill Rammell keeps on saying “we have genuinely listened”.
That’s not what I’m hearing from the sitting MP’s.
It’ll be a complete whitewash again. Nobody will be held accountable, and there will be no prosecutions.
o/t but if anyone wants to see videos of the exchanges at PMQs today they’re here: Calling England
An old Yorkshire saying… “Truth will out.”
Another Yorkshire saying – “Where there’s muck, there’s brass”.
Hmmm… plenty brass in HoC….
when was the last time a speaker asked why there was a delay in the loobies
Sounds painful.
Haemorrhoids ?
Lobbies. Took me five hours to crack it. Embarrassed.
Buy a better bog brush. It all started with the Klingons.
“Division results expected at 1934″ and previously 1924 are more like being at a greyhound meeting
There’s nothing like open government and this is nothing like open government.
Most of those votes were from deviants and troughers who have absented themselves from the debate.
All day MPs make speeches of what a load of bollocks the government proposals are, then it gets voted through, democracy, why do we bother.
The Iran debate has shown just a sea of green today and then when the vote comes, all the clones come out of the slime they have been festering in all day to vote.what a load of shameless sh*ts.
Sorry I have to say – Mr Squeaker hasn’t done too bad a job last couple of days – guess we’re going to have to give him some time to see if he can improve things.
Re: this Iraq Inquiry – who was that combative unpleasant bullying Labour man who wound up the debate?? – even if I hadn’t listened to most of it, and I have today – I would have thought from what he said , and the way that he said it, with his finger pointing and snide remarks that the government’s handling of this was incompetent and insensitive- AGAIN!!
Most important point of this debate for me was when William said there are 179 reasons for this debate to be held in public and under oath. 179 dead servicemen and women. And how many hundreds injured – and look how they’ve been treated!!!
And let’s not forget Dr David Kelly – he said there were no wmd and there were no wmd. So that point needs examining forensically in public.
“So that point needs examining forensically in public” more chance of plating snot.
Sadly I agree with you – anyone who listened to the Hutton Inquiry understands how whitewash works in its final analysis.
But I would still like to see Blair’s Cabinet Secretary and Scarlett called back for another grilling- not to mention Blair and Alastair.
Not under oath they will revert to default and lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie and lie some more.
This is why Broon needs the report to arrive after the election – if it arrives before and is covered in whitewash the public anger will be directed at the door of the government.
179 reasons indeed, Requiem in Pace…
surely if the military commanders take with them a bible to the proceedings and exercise their christian right to swear on that bible immediately prior to giving their testimony in the Iraq inquiry then that would degrade the credibility of all the new labour war criminals testimony.
for if those satanists laid their hands on a bible it would catch fire.
note to the comanders of the British Armed Forces: new labour are just about to tip a very large bucket of shit all over your heads.
you will have the finger of blame pointed firmly at you by the new labour war criminals.
sure as eggs is eggs.
there is much at stake for tony blair and gordon brown and jack straw and alistair campbell and john scarlett.
they could well end up being found of war crimes and hanged, just like saddam.
that is why they are tipping the bucket of shit over your head, it is an attempt to evade the rope by passing the blame to the military.
you simply can’t trust the traitors.
take the oath.
that will fuck them good.
Thick as Thieves. I can normally put up with your banter but we’re talking about dead servicemen here.
People who signed up to server their country and came back from Iraq in boxes.
Completely out of order.
no steve, ’tis you who is completely out of order you c’unt for trying to score political points from those deaths.
have you no shame?
you evil fucking bastard steve, you are the lowest of the low.
my idea is an excellent way to ensure that the lives of our brave soldiers was not in vain.
fuck knows what your point is steve, you’re just a fucking spineless idiot.
I would like to ask Brown in what way he thinks he has changed in the last couple of weeks? The evidence points to him becoming more entrenched and to his diabolical party becoming more so with him. The debacle over the Iraq Inquiry is sickening and yet more proof (if any were needed) that Brown and New Labour are as corrupt, morally bankrupt and devoid of any sense of punlic service as ever. I’m sick of screaming at the telly and don’t read the papers much anymore. Despite correspondence regularly with my MP, IT CHANGES NOTHING. Are we so awful a nation that the people can’t come together and put an end to this lot NOW????
why?
If you’re responding to 140 above – because that’s what gordon keeps doing – thinking we are all fools and will believe him.
If you are asking the philosophical question of ‘why are we saddled with this unelected PM who doesn’t understand the word truth?’ – God knows!!!!
Hi, Nell. Have you by any chance re-read last night’s thread? Hmmm….
its coz there are 2 classes theres and ours
At least Gordon helps the poor, the tory’s will cut everything back by 10%!
We will become like Spain under Franco- ruled by toffs and their facist freinds which seems to make up the readership of order order, who hjave the same iq as Mel Philips and the Daily Mail reader.
Stop Tory Cuts before its too late!
C4 on The Keens. Sir Al Graham “shocking”. Jonah will have to have 2 bye elections
O/T Max Mosley resigns in October, to spend more with his whips. It is not known which one, but the rumour is that its Nick Brown
One down, one to go then for the F1 fans.
Maybe Mosley could have a word in Broon’s ear, about resigning with dignity when things gets fucked up on your watch…
I would like to hear he was whipping Gordon Brown
Brown is on Planet Tharg. While everyone – including his own puppet Chancellor – knows the public finances are in an appalling state and likely to deteriorate still further, Brown is chuntering on in his own deluded manner about public spending increases, ‘investment’ and ’stability’. Why, even Alistair Darling – a man for whom I have some sympathy – acknowledges that public spending cuts are in the offing.
The Tories could adopt a simple strategy: they could simply do what Brown is doing and lie.
Dave should think of a random and large number – £5,000, for instance. He should then claim that every family will face a £5,000 annual tax hike if Labour wins the next general election. He should then repeat this mantra over and over again, until it is firmly lodged in the electorate’s psyche.
Brown is simply resorting to scare tactics to ward people off voting for the Tories. Vote Tory and prepare to die, says he. It would be interesting to see how he would cope if the Tories used similar tactics against him. I fear his head would probably explode.
A similar comment piece from Daniel Finkelstein in today’s Times
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/daniel_finkelstein/article6564980.ece
Remember the Tories’ “Tax Bombshell” campaign from 1992?
Tories to Rebrand as Cassandratives.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra
“Which explains why he thinks the “Tory Cuts” line might still work…”
Ed and the voices in my head told me it’s a good idea.
Snotty looked really rattled during PMQ today – actually he looked demented. Besides him sat Hateperson nodding sagely, but on his other side Darling looked like a man who is listening to shit being talked but dare not reveal that he knows it is all shit.
Cameron is growing some balls but he was a long long way to go yet.
Mervyn King told the Treasury Select Committee today that the Bank of England had not been consulted by No10 on government proposals for financial regulation which will be published next week. Bit like the arrangements for the Iraq Inquiry and lack of consultation with the Armed Forces and Opposition then?
He also said that BoE would not be held responsible for the potential breakdown of Britain’s financial stability because government hadn’t given them the power to intervene.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it gordon!!!!
Snotty doesn’t “do” consultation.
He certainly needs one though…….
I’m sure Dolly’s looking for work at the moment!
He sure doesn’t. As Cameron highlighted today at PMQ’s – when gordon was opposed by his own ministers, in a meeting, on his proposal to fight the tories with the headline ‘ Mr 10%’ – he shut the meeting down and marched away in a sulk.
This man is deranged and out of control.
The next election cannot come soon enough!
Er….nell, I know you’re probably a posh bird, but trick cyclist means psychiatrist in cockinese, thereby implying a consultation by a head doctor.
Cheers.
Nell was responding to Ratsniffer.
Alister Darling knows more about the economy that some fat Tory banker!
At least we invest in helping the poor,you lot would turn us into south Africa Circa 1970’s
Fight tory cuts now!
Let’s see if this links back to a Labour site.
Well waddya know, it’s brain dead central. Now fuck off Jonty you ginger twat.
It’s a spoof. Nobody with internet access could possibly be so fuckwitted. He’s winding you up. A troll. Or a recruiter from Tory Central Office like that HarmanPride and MasterBaiter (one and the same).
have you kept the phone number of the imf from when you borrowed from them in the seventies?
Darling: Hello, I would like to borrow some money please.
IMF: Certainly sir, how much would you like?
Darling: How much do you have in stock?
IMF: £340 billion.
Darling: I’ll take it. When’s your next delivery?
IMF: Friday sir.
Darling: Excellent. I’ll see you Friday.
IMF: Goodbye sir.
Alister Darling learnt from Brown when he was chancellor.
The best Daring can hope to achieve is being the second worse Chancellor after Traitor Brown
He also described the level of public debt as “Extraordinary” and demanded from Darling a schedule for when he could possibly start paying it all back. Remember that this is from someone in a role famous for its use of very careful and diplomatic language.
Funnily enough the pound dropped over 1% against most major currencies this afternoon – the Govenor would certainly have known that that would be a concequence of his words, yet he still felt they needed to be said…
This isn’t the first time Merv has flagged up the ongoing lunacy. Merv is not going down in history as the chairman of the BoE who said nothing while the Maximum Idiot fucked an entire nations economy.
The amazing thing is how it’s being reported by HMV-BBC.
“The scale of the deficit is truly extraordinary. 12.5% of GDP is not something that anybody would have anticipated even a year or two ago, and this reflects the scale of the global downturn, ,” he said.
“But it also reflects the fact that we came into this crisis with fiscal policy itself on a path that wasn’t itself sustainable and a correction was needed.
There it is. Merv himself saying we entered this recession in an insane fiscal position.
The chairman of the BoE telling Brown that he (Brown) had fucked the economy long before the US recession gave him a get-out sound-bite.
Spin on that spunkbubble.
Quite shocking comments from the Govenor – he was very clear today that the problems were on the government side and not anything that he had influence over, except to write reports and try and influence the politicians.
I’m sure Cameron’s got his six questions for next Wednesday lunchtime written already, when the Goveror and the OCED both say that the country is fucked, it’s fair to say that it’s fucked.
I wonder what are the odds on the IMF coming to say hello any time soon??
King has the clout to bring the Fat Bastard down. And I wouldn’t be surprised if he cuts him to pieces over the coming days and months.
Brown’s dog meat.
I can’t wait to read the book about this in five years time! That’s assuming, of course, that books haven’t all been burned by the population trying to stay warm in the intervening period.
Well if the refinery strikes carry on much longer….
Is 2009 going to be another 1979?
I won’t need a book. I’ll have lived it.
It is what it is.
Idiot politicians ran riot on borrowed cash.
Stood by, and worse, encouraged numpty voters to do the same.
Lapped up the accolades when all was well.
Turned on themselves when it went to shit.
Failed to take any difficult decisions to mitigate the obvious idiocy.
Perservered in the teeth of their idiocy to scorch the earth and poison the land for the incoming government.
Lied, lied and lied again.
Like the Hungarian president they lied morning, noon and night.
And that’s it.
Short fucking book.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5359250.stm
In excerpts broadcast on state radio, Mr Gyurcsany candidly admitted his government had accomplished “nothing” and had been lying for “the last year and a half to two years”.
“We lied morning, noon and night,” he said in a speech punctuated by obscenities.
And, by an extra-ordinary coincidence the Labour Party and Mr Gyurcsany’s party are members of the Socialist group in the EU.
Thiiiiiiiiiiings can only get betteeeeeeeeer….!!!!!
Ruth Lea on BBC24 nailing GB saying she doesn’t know why GB keep saying no cuts as DC is only following what’s in the budget and the situation is “deeply deeply serious” (Commenting on OECD report)
freddie is thinking of starting a blog to give his views on the ashes and gordon bankrupiting the country any help would be a good thing
i just need advice coz am new to blogging
A good place to start is http://www.WordPress.com mate. You can have yourself a blog up and running in no time. This blog was running WordPress last time I checked, the Telegraph have just converted their blogs to WordPress, so it’s a good place to start.
cheers fella will save the link and chat to mate to see if can be done without getting sued
Good luck Freddie, both for the blog and not being sued!
You can set up various rules (like the “Hoon” one here) to keep out the adult language or use certain terms (B N P written together) to trigger a human approver – a lot of lower-volume blogs do pre-approval so you see and can edit every reply before it goes up if you prefer…
…and my 259 got put in the naughty boys’ queue (was probably the ‘S’ word at the end of the first line) so it’s quite easy to set up.
“Bring on the convicts” – like it!
thanks getting details any other help or advice would be welcome
Go freddie!
bring on the convicts BARMY ARMY BARMY ARMY
At least Gordon is helping the homless:
Housing Minister, John Healey said
Housing Minister, John Healey, has announced extra help for families facing repossession of their home by doubling extra funding for free, on-the-spot legal advice in courts.
“It is real backstop help for those closest to the point of losing their home. In four out of five cases, the court desk advisers stop immediate repossession or eviction. Over the last year we’ve seen this work to help people keep their homes, so I’m doubling the extra money to support this service to £1.5million.”
AT LEAST SOCALISM HELPS FANMILIES-WITCH IS MORE THAN THE TORY’S WILL DO!
socialism, families,which, tories.
education, education, education.
That’s all you can do-pick up on my spelling?
At least i care for the poor you filthy rich tory!!!
how many milloinares on the labour front bench ?
NUTTER ALERT
i aint a nutter yet bring on the aussies
Sweetie – I’m a pensioner! You know? One of those unfortunates targetted by gordon. There are no rich people living in my circle.
Unlike ShahidM I can’t afford 2 televisions. Unlike EdB and his beautiful wife I can’t claim £400 per month for food consumption on the taxpayer. Unlike gordon I can’t buy fancy blinds for my house on other people’s taxes….I could go on but I won’t. I’m sure you get the picture.
What I and my husband have done all our life , – is work hard, pay our taxes – look after our family at our own expense, nurse our elderly mother to keep her out of the uncaring care services that this govt has in place and raise a disabled child paying for private healthcare because the NHS is useless.
Need I say more?
Your c&p function can’t spell.
To late, you uneducated fools are finished. You had better flee Britain and go to Iran, because you are going to have to look after yourself. Scary eh. No big brother telling you what to do or think. It must be very frightening for you to know that you are on your own and ultimately incapable of wiping your own arse. Mummy, the nasty Tory wont give me any money, we will all starve because we to stupid to feed ourselves…..It’s called evolution, and lets face 50 of your lot are not worth 1 of ours.
WITCH?
What comprehensive did you go to, numb skull?
Socialism kills.
Always has done, always will.
The Labour attack machine, honed over many years, has released its last and greatest secret weapon.
This Artificial Intelligence program is so sophisticated that it can appear to be a deluded, ill-educated, socialist fuckwit.
While all non-Labour voters are busy pissing themselves laughing, Gordon and Mandy stuff the postal ballots and steal the election. How can it fail?
Ha Ha Ha you need a brain transplant
“He also said that BoE would not be held responsible for the potential breakdown of Britain’s financial stability because government hadn’t given them the power to intervene.”
Mervyn King tearing gordon yet another arsehole!!
Gordon is demented General election now!!!!! while the UK might still be saved.
Brown is oblivious to reason. We have all failed him. We have, each of us, let him down. We have not clambered into the fucked-up, make-believe world in his fucked-up head and continued living a happy-clappy dream where no money need ever be paid back and we can all just keep borrowing money and spending ever more insane amounts on our insanely over-valued houses.
The man is a nut-case. The best we can hope for is that as he makes increasingly insane directives to borrow and squander ever more money that the likes of Darling just bare-faced lie to him, tell the fucking nutter you’ve printed another 50bn quid and employed another million people with the proceeds. The bastard is so far off the high board that he has no touch with reality and might actually believe it. Which will save us borrowing another 50bn quid and firing another million 5-a-day co-ordinators.
Brown is fucking insane. He thinks he’s so fucking clever that he can tell us any old shit and we’ll believe it. His contempt for the truth defies even the vast range of the English language.
Perhaps they can mock up a room at the Happy Valley Asylum to look like the no.10 bunker, lock Gordon in it, and feed him re-runs of News 24.
GB: “I’m the Prime Minister, you know.”
Nurse: “Of course you are dear, now here’s a nice pill to help with the voices.”
too late. borrowing £200bn to spend £600bn is insane. Mervyn King and others know this. the game simply now is to say ‘wasn’t my fault, please don’t hurt me’ when the mob storms the big houses. scary as hell and anyone with the wherewithal will be leaving.
o/t guido that picture is scary
you sir will get into the nets , get your pads on lad and take a bouncer
Skip the pads. And the fucking helmet. Give him one in the teeth Freddie. Fuck him up good.
In fact fuck a bouncer. Move the sight screen and give the bastard a beamer.
put him in a aussie shirt
No shirt, no box, thin or no shorts…
Fuck cricket reenactments. Ship him off to Gallipoli and machine-gun the C*NT in no-mans land.
Extreme fucking ashes action is called for with the likes of Brown.
gordons time will come and watch the champayne bottles in the country
Meanwhile the Labour bastards have just voted to cover up the Iraq enquiry. Well not quite so explicitly. The guy in charge will be able to hold a certain (unspecified) portion of the ‘enquiry’ in public.
So we can safely assume that the guy appointed. By the government. To enquire into the government. Will be holding the enquiry behind closed doors. And no sign of a bible either I’ll bet. None of the lies will be on oath.
Not that lying on oath matters to the likes of Brown and Blair anyway. They’d tear the bible into pieces right in front of your eyes and then claim it wasn’t them. Nope. Bible was like that when I got here.
and steve harmison at the other end to smash his face up
Don’t forget to get well loose to get the pace right up….
give me a over to get warmed up
Take as long as you need Freddie. Need a cortizone injection on that knee Freddie?
no just da aussie in front of 22 yards i suggest
Wouldn’t take too much ingenuity to make Brown into a decent pedalo Freddie, just make sure you’re sitting on his arse so his face is submerged.
can i wear pads ?
A padalo :-)
Hello?
Goodbye.
If only that was Gordo’s resignation speech.
I think Guido’s playing games tonight.
Looks like Guido’s server has had a pint of Guinness too many!
thick i like you , i may disagree with what you say but i fight to the death for you to have the right to say it
If there’s anybody going to be dying for the right to free speech it certainly won’t be me. You bastards will hear what I tell you and do as you’re told or by Christ I will fuck up your careers. Are you fucking listening Cooper? Balls? …
….. is this microphone still on? Can they hear me at home?
CUT TO COMMERCIAL!!!!!!
Illiterate moron. And that goes for your other post below, as well.
Does anyone here know who this was?
“At the edge of the lobby he spotted a rolypoly supporter from the world of Right-wing internet bloggers”
From this article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1195016/QUENTIN-LETTS-Enter-Mr-Squeaker-smirking-schoolmaster-garb.html
Someone on Iain Dale said it was Jonathan Isaby
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2009/06/bradbybercow-spat-for-your-delectation.html
I have already asked that question three hours ago on another blog. still no reply
A really excellent article in the Telegraph by Eamon Butler on the nations’ financial crisis. Read it all, it’s absolutely terrifying.
Just some points from the article:-
Today is Cost of Government Day. Average taxpayers in Britain now have to work almost half the year – 176 days – to pay their share of the cost of running Gordon Brown’s administration. Every penny we have earned since January 1 has gone to feed the state leviathan. It is only from today that, at last, you have started working for yourselves and your families.
More than five months of our servitude – from New Year until May 14 – were spent working to pay taxes, such as income tax, national insurance, council tax, VAT and many others including the notorious “stealth” taxes. But all that effort was still not enough to feed the monster, and when he had run out of our money, the Chancellor, Alistair Darling, had to borrow – at £20 million an hour – to pay his bills.So for the past six weeks, day in, day out, we have been working to fund that borrowing. No wonder Mervyn King, the governor of the Bank of England, warned yesterday of the “truly extraordinary” scale of deficits.
The total debt is around £2.2 trillion pounds. That’s your kids’ and their kids’ future already mortgaged.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/5627352/Government-debt-Thatll-be-2.2-trillion-please.html
Every minute they stay in power the crisis deepens. God help us.
We are all socialist slaves baring a revolt or we leave the plantation (emigrate).
Gordons the sort of man who watches the ads from ocean finance who believes you can consolidate all your existing debts into one managable debt and still pay for that holiday in the sun
you sir will get bouncers from steve harminson, tim breson , and me so fuck off you cowerd prime minster
Guido
as you say you’re being over-burdened with moderating, shouldn’t you introduce a minimal educational/intelligence standard, screening out the huge number of thickos and losers on your blog?
A lot of these posts are boring rants, laced with lazy, trite terms (e.g. ‘Hoons’ should be banned, it’s long ceased to a meaningful insult on this blog), and characterised by appallingly bad spelling, punctuation and grammar. Plus a number of participants don’t seem to be able to work a ‘Caps’ key.
It’s especially ironic as a significant number are rambling on about the ‘real world’ – in the real world would anyone employ such semi-literate inadequates?
Bottom line: Keep the witty or informative contributors and axe the under-performers.
Guido doesn’t realise that his site has been targeted by trolls paid by his opponents.
Pass that dooby over here. Now for the mantra om om investments not cuts ommm.
[Earlier post has been bounced back]
Guido
as you say you’re being over-burdened with moderating, shouldn’t you introduce a minimal educational/intelligence standard, deleting the huge number of thickos and losers?
A lot of these posts are boring rants, laced with lazy, trite terms (e.g. ‘Hoons’ should be banned, it’s long ceased to be a meaningful insult on this blog) and characterised by appallingly bad spelling, punctuation and grammar. Plus a number of participants don’t seem to be able to work a ‘Caps’ key.
It’s especially ironic as a significant number are rambling on about the ‘real world’ – in the real world would anyone employ such semi-literate inadequates?
Bottom line: Keep the witty or informative contributors and axe the under-performers.
Thats you out then.
My point instantly proved
Chartered Accountant,
You are absolutely right in everything you wrote. Guido doesn’t realise that his site has been targeted by trolls, paid or encouraged by his opponents.
Guido doesn’t realise that his site has been targeted by his opponents. I suspect at least one of his ‘moderators’ is among them, and that’s why this comment was previously ‘disappeared’, as was an earlier comment re: the perfect storm of OECD, BoE King and David Cameron – all good people pointing out that the UKs government is lying, and bankrupting the nation.
Moderator: conscience is your judge, not politics.
The moderator is software code.
Oh, Guido. Has it come to pass that mechanics monitor ideas? ‘Under the oak tree…’ (Orwell). Good luck with your feisty pioneering ways. Beware of the monitors, especially those that offer to be cheap, efficient, and profitable. Think of Bill Gates: the smiling geek who retired a billionaire before the world realised his product was virus infected, and faulty; the biggest con ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public, with the help of his friends in government, and the military. Good luck. Fight the good fight.
Nell – panic over!
I have an awful feeling that we really HAVE just woken up in Neo’s Matrix: black is white….and white is black.
Which pill do we take?
The red pill or the the blue veneered red pill?
Don’t be too smug.
Next year with the increase in income tax, increase in VAT etc etc it will feel like Armegedon in the UK.
Already on the street the peasants are getting upset, they’re fed up with the increase in telly tax, eating baked beanz, shagging their slags. No money is the mantra. Tax on this, tax on that. CCTV everywhere. Petty crime everywhere. Unable to cheat the leccy as they have new meters, now on a water meter, can’t dodge the car tax, the filth can check if they have insurance it will all lead to weightier crime.
Trust me. It isn’t going to be good.
And that coupled with a bunch of silver spooned hopeless tossers without a policy of any substance will light the blue (sorry) touch paper (being the new Government).
Lock up anything of any value, drive an old banger, look down at heel. Don’t brag or laugh too much for if you do there will be trouble. Keep a low profile. This is going to get very messy.
And on that cheerful note I wish you a good night and I will dream of square wheeled Audtin Allegros and Morris Marinas, the dead unburied and Leicester Sq full of rubbish. 1975 here we come.
Bon nuit
Brown tells lies – fukkin big lies – that’s what he does
All these tossers in Parliament are a joke. Almost anyone else could do a better job – well certainly from within the private sector.
Brown tells lies – that’s what he does
We’ve found someone who still believes in death cult worship called Marxism.
They’re also an idiot. Hardly a suprise!
Bloody hell, it’s Dave Spart!
According to the BBC News website today:
QUOTE FROM THE BBC NEWS WEBSITE
Council warns MP couple over home
The Keens face fresh questions over their expenses.
Married Labour MPs Ann and Alan Keen have been given a month to stop their local council repossessing their home 10 miles from the House of Commons.
The pair’s expenses have been in the spotlight after they claimed £137,679 for a second home near Parliament.
In a letter seen by the BBC, Hounslow Council tells the couple “urgent action” is needed to explain why their main home in Brentford is unoccupied.
The Keens have not responded to BBC requests for a comment.
In addition, the Keens are not thought to have responded to the council’s letter, sent last week.
A source at the council – which is run by the Conservatives – told the BBC that the Brentford property had remained empty for seven months.
Andrew Dakers, the Liberal Democrat councillor for the area, who is also its prospective Parliamentary candidate, has told the BBC that the windows at the back of the Keens’ main home were boarded up and that there was paint splashed on the inside of the upstairs windows.
‘Deeply ironic’
If the council does not get a satisfactory response from the Keens, it then has the power to issue an Empty Dwelling Management Order which would allow the council to take possession of the property and bring it back into use.
Such orders became law five years ago in order to give local councils the power to take possession of empty properties and bring them back into use.
The Conservatives’ housing spokesman Grant Shapps said: “It is deeply ironic that the Labour government’s powers to allow the state confiscation of private property will be utilised against absentee Labour members of Parliament.”
The couple’s designated second home is a flat in Waterloo, two stops on the Jubilee underground line from Westminster.
Alan Keen is MP for Feltham and Heston while Ann Keen is MP for neighbouring Brentford and Isleworth.
According to the Daily Telegraph, the couple bought the central London flat in 2002 and have, between them, claimed more than £30,000 towards it in each of the past four years.
The couple told the newspaper that under the second home allowance rules, married MPs were entitled to separately claim for a property that they share and live in together.
UNQUOTE
Whenever I see Gordon or one of his apologists make a speech or write an article, I think “Gordon – you’re a liar”.
It would be nice if everyone else joined in, in writing or whichever other mode is applicable.
He is the biggest liar I’ve ever heard of.
He has destroyed the former Great Country we have the honour of living in and life in the future will be so much poorer paying for all the mess he has made
If you tell a lie often enough, it will become true.
At least that’s how Gordon’s mind works.
So on the day the Governor of the Bank of England says in public that the economy’s going down the pan and, in effect, the government’s public finance plans will bankrupt us all, what does the BBC news lead with?
‘Shocking’ allegations that some possible / probable terrorists captured in Afghanistan got a slapping off US forces. Oh, and they only had black and white telly too.
A gentleman who staged a line protest on May 18th in Parliament square, will have another one on Monday the 29th from 11.AM. This time he will not be alone but we need as many people as possible to tell Brown that enough is enough.
Please come and join. Tell all your like-minded friend and acquaintances.
We also need media exposure so, call/write to the national and local press. Also call your local radio.
It’s time to take action.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5628090/MPs-expenses-Alan-and-Ann-Keen-designate-boarded-up-house-as-main-home.html
Latest TROUGH story for those who are Keen.
Mr & Mrs piggy winkle even charged us to twiddle their Bose stereo.
I heard that on the radio last night – I think someone tipped off the BBC about their “main home” being in a crap and unused state.
On the other hand – I’m sure another couple had their bose stereo twiddled.
Useless gits.
..and what generates the taxes which our beloved Prime Minister loves to spend?…that would be the very private sector you loathe.
Still we could always scap it and print money or borrow ourselves into oblivion..whoops done that already!
Get real.
I’m surprised no-one has brought up yesterday’s big PMQ lie:
Cameron: “Will the Prime Minister now apologise, correct his statement and admit that he is cutting capital expenditure?”
Brown: “I was just explaining how we had brought forward capital investment to last year and this year. The figure for capital investment in 2006-07 was £36 billion. That has risen to £38 billion in 2008-09 and to £44 billion in 2009-10.”
On the face of it, this appears to be a not entirely unreasonable line – bringing spending forward to avert recession, but… uh oh! Logic Alert!
1. Brown is referring to spending between April-March of the years in question.
2. Given that Brown only admitted in PMQs that there was going to be a recession in the UK by October 2008, having been rather more bullish in a September press briefing (with the BBC reporting that “He said the UK could avoid the worst of the crisis thanks to a flexible labour market and low interest rates”), and prior to summer was paying no regard to the economy, tweaking the tax bands in May 2008, one could reasonably assume that he either did not believe one was coming until summer or early autumn, or chose to mislead the public prior to that time.
3. So when deciding spending in April 2007 (£36bn) for the following year to March 2008 it is reasonable to assume that no changes were made to account for a future downturn, since one was not expected.
4. When deciding in April 2008 and April 2009 for the following years (which were increased, he said yesterday, to £38bn and £44bn), it seems as if the amount brought forward must have been pretty small – a maximum £10bn total would have left those 3 years flat at 2007/8 levels, so unless he had otherwise planned to cut the expenditure during that time, that is the maximum amount “brought forward”.
5. Future years, following the amounts brought forward, are 2010: £36bn; 2011: £29bn; 2012: £26bn, so let’s be generous and assume that the flat 2007 level (£36bn) was still the planned “extra investment” to 2012, we are down by £7bn in 2011 and £10bn in 2012: £17bn down by bringing £10bn forwards. Amazing!!
Bottom line is this: either he planned cuts before, or he plans cuts now, but either conclusion is entirely counter to at least one of his statements in PMQs in the last 2 weeks.
Perhaps the new speaker should show his independence and censure him for misleading the house…
the best cut is to scrap the Tax Credit system and increase the basic allowances to make up for it… at a stroke, you would be able to slash whole layers of beaurocracy who’s entire reason for existence was to give back money that shouldn’t have been taken in the first place…
Oh the “experts” on this blog…such experts on economics that when they voted that facist bitch Thatcher 3 million people lost hope.
The truth of the matter is that Alister Darling is spot on the growth forcast- the Tory banker who wheeled out this rubbish is just helping his friends into power because like all Torys he wants to keep people on council estates down on getting good jobs.
If anything I think that Gordon needs to be harder on people earning more than 35k a year, we need to cut back get rid of nuclear weapons and open a dialogue with north korea and iran-instead of listening to the pro-jewish rants from blogs like these.
further more jobs like equality managers are vital in helping people in the community-the tories would just start mass deporting.
we don’t need another thatcher-we need good people like gordon brown and ken livingstone to sort out this county
how many millioners on both front benches?
NUTTER ALERT
now get back in to bed and pop in another pill
gordon helps himself and the rest of the labour party. they give away money to people instead of making them earn it, they import poverty.
get a life you socialist twat
No they won’t. The Tories have said they would not cut health, international aid and some other stuff at all. Remaining departmnental budgets would be reduced by 10% (if all departments reduced equally, it would be 7.2% across the board). Now, here’s the really impoprtant bit, this is what G Brown and A Darling’s own budget report already has in it. These aren’t Tory Cuts at all, they are in fact Labour Cuts.
Anyway, if Tories have any sense they will, long-term, look for a lot more than 10% otherwise we will be living in la-la-debt-land for generations to come.
Ever considered using a spell check half-wit? I appreciate it won’t help with your comprehensive school grammar, but it might just pick up on some of the worst howlers.
Very amusingly ironic. If you weren’t being ironic, you’d better look up what the word means.
You haven’t understood a single word, have you.
Try “Wibble”.
Do us all a favour and get lost thicko
You are deluded!
Go back to school, Stop the Tories. It’s Tories, not tory’s. It’s fascist, not facist. It’s have, not hjave. It’s it’s, not its.
All torys are rich greedy people
Only socalists care for Britians future
too many
Don’t you mean how many milliners?
More importantly, how many milliners?
and they earned it in the private sector unlike labour who robbed from the working class you mean ?
yeh right, could you articulate a bit more?
Oh yeah? So it’s Dave’s fault I’ve beeen made redundant, then, is it? Thought not.
Is a socalist something to do with a list of people involved in Serious Organized Crime?
Don’t you bugger off wi’ my pens Mickey love……
hang on i thought we had freedom of speech , do you say i should be banned ? you can despise what i say , as would i with you but i would fight to the death for you to have the right to say it
Labour millionaires mainly got it by defrauding the taxpayer- e.g. Loser Kinnock and his missus.
Engineer did I do something awful last night?
I wouldn’t. That’ll just get you killed.
no it starded in america
Yes it is…he was in charge of the economy with Norman Lamont in 1992, and we have never recoverd from that
so black wednesday cost 3 billion and how mutch are we dbt by now 1.3 triilion go fuck off
But Brown crowed for 10 fucking years about his prowess in running the British economy. Every fucking budget, every time he spoke – ‘60 quarters of continuious growth’ – ‘the best period of growth for 200 years’ – you just couldn’t stop the cnut.
And now tossers like you blame the current economic armageddon on Norman fuckin’ Lamont?
Go suck a pussy, toss pot!
Oh, and in case you didn’t understand tha last reply to one of your moronic posts, ‘witch’ is spelt ‘which’. At least you might learn something today. It would appear you didn’t learn much in 14 years in state education.
Black Wednesday was a big deal and cost 3 billion quid.
Now, after 12 years we’re 1,200 billion quid in debt. Every fucking wednesday for the last 10 years has been a Black Wednesday.
Smash him over long on for six freddie!
save all that aggression for the Aussies its wasted on the brain washed.
Not at all, Nell. In fact, you were a voice of sanity among the mayhem. I was more worried about Newgirl and Anonymous Misogynist. Have a butcher’s.
you and new girl made right arses of yourselves last night.
if you are the best trolls the tories can muster then I am going to start smoking some very strong superskunk.
this is too easy nell, too fucking easy.
you’re shit.
was thinking of straight in the head
are you stoned you c’unt?
the silly old tart made a right fool of herself!
I’m not sure there was too much sobriety around last night – rather amusing in the cold light of day!
Ah! The Trolls! Master Baiter. Speedo.Harman.etc etc. That One Person who pretends to be many.
Poor gordon that he has to spread his support base so thinly!!!!
SOCIALIST – Serious Organised Crime In A List, something like three hundred Liebore MPs, then?
Well, I never. OK, maybe once, but that is it.