Too Early for “Bercow Must Go”
With the support of only 3 members sitting on the benches of the next governing party never in living memory has a new speaker so divided the house. Already the drum beat has started to undermine him. Don’t get Guido wrong, there is good reason to be wary of Speaker Bercow.
He is the candidate of a party on the way out. Like a drunk being thrown out of the pub they have spat on the floor before they got thrown out the door. Bercow is disliked intensely by those who know him best, the longer you have known him, the less you like him. He was championed by Julian Lewis, who fought a dubious and disingenuous campaign against the public finding out about house flipping by MPs. In the run up to his election Bercow called for a 60% pay increase for MPs. These are not good omens.
Putting aside Guido’s personal animosity, there are some good things to be said for Bercow. No one doubts his energy or his ability to articulate his views. They are not things that could be said for the last Speaker.
There is no point undermining him before we see how he actually performs in the job. There is now an opportunity for a great reforming Speaker to drive through reforms that regain for parliament the ability to hold the government to account and in check. Bercow has been elected on a manifesto promising to modernise procedures, strengthen democratic oversight of the government and make parlaiment more transparent. If he sets the course for great reform let him keep his job. If he fails, the next parliament should not hesitate to find someone else who can do the job.
UPDATE : Dale reminds Guido that Bercow promised that any minister who made an announcement to the media instead of the House first would be called to explain himself before parliament. Watch out for that, Guido’s money is on Ed Balls doing it first. Wonder what will happen if Mandelson does it…
As they say – one man’s opportunity is another man’s challenge. I don’t mean vertical challenge either.
If any question, why Bercow ?
Tell them, ’twas Labour’s final throw
Upon the heads of disaffected Tories Labour shat
And upon the Speaker’s chair, that little greaser Bercow sat
With the support of only 3 members in sight
His naval position would be “gastight”
Dear versifying Tories
Ha!
Est modus in rebus; sunt certi denique fines,
Quos ultra, citraque nequit consistere rectum.
Hooray!
Now we await a by-election to replace the gibbous, indolent ‘Gorbals Mick’ as representative for Glasgow, unequalled for elegance and beauty among all the cities of Europe!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
“I switched to Bercow simply because I think he’d be most effective at holding a future Conservative government to account. He’s clearly his own man and not afraid to defy the tribe. Surely that’s no bad thing in a Speaker?
Bercow won a proper democratic contest – giving him a legitimacy no previous Speaker has had. We’re not going to restore faith in our broken Westminster system with refusals to accept democratic results or with underhand briefings. Whatever criticisms I had to level against Bercow’s predecessor, I never said privately what I wasn’t prepared to say in the open”
Who said that ?
Douglas Carswell the Conservative who tabled the motion to get rid of Speaker Martin.
So despite all this hilarious huffing and puffing from a handful of extremely sore losers in the Conservative Party, Bercow is safe.
You can’t just dump a Speaker just because he wasn’t “your” man.
And most telingly anyone who watched Cameron’s reaction knows that Bercow is safe.
It took one of the Biggest Political Scandals in decades on top of his many, many other mistakes to get rid of Martin. Not forgetting that Cameron didn’t call for Martin to go even after all that occured. Clegg did but Cameron was too timid.
And some of the pundits and bloggers actually believe this handful who are threatening Bercow ?? Yeah, right. Course they will. And they wil force call me Dave to have a referendum on Lisbon while they are at it.
Some are so gullible it’s frightening.
Most tellingly and indeed most hilariously Guido wrote this.
There is no point undermining him before we see how he actually performs in the job.
Bit late for that now isn’t it ? Never mind. It just won’t sink in for some that all this criticism now before he even does his job makes him safer with ever insult dropped and unattributed briefing against him.
Get used to Bercow. He’s going to be there for quite some time.
Dear Scorched Earth
Concerning your interminable, rambling dissertation.
You’re boring.
Ha!
Establish your own web log and stop clotting ‘our Guido’s’.
Hooray!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Whilst the usual blogging suspects go into overload about the new speaker in the House of Commons, I would like to nail my colours to the mast.
Parliament is an outdated anachronism. Men in tights, shooting galleries, Smokers bars, late night sittings, whips, Black Rod, the Mace, Parliamentary Privilege and first past the post.
Stick it all up your arse. Sideways
A new speaker is not even rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. Throw it all out, raze it to the ground and salt the earth.
I want democratically elected politicians, dedicated the serving their constituents, proportionately representative and with minimal powers over my life. I want a reduction in Government an anorexic would be proud of. I want the power they hold on our behalf returned to local councils, made of people who are not career arse lickers and can be held to account over a pint on a Friday night. I want local, federal law making by people I can talk to. I want referendums and I want representation. I want the fat bloated state starved.
Protect the borders, Police the streets. Everything else is down to me. And I can do it so, so much better than those 646 Huntwafting fucktards.
Dear sad schoolboy attempt at a joke post Laird.
Fuck off and learn to be funny or more relevant to the actual subject.
Was that too long ? Hooray! indeed you twat.
I know its too early to start conspiracy theories. But does anyone else think its only a coincidence that ‘Speaker John Bercow’ is actually a clever anagram of ‘Cheaper Brown Jokes’?
Major Plonquer
British Dailysex (Dyslexia) Society
Glasgow University Human Right Branch
John Bercow’s political journey has been littered with discarded beliefs, convictions, friendships and ideologies, perhaps these ‘qualities’ may be considered positively in his new role as Speaker.
However, he may have discarded everything else in pursuit of his personal goals, is it that there is a complete unprincipled and amoral shell holding one of the great offices of state.
Guido,
I am getting a bit sick of all this reforming talk.
It wasn’t lack of reform that made Labour MP’s, and Tory MP’s support an illegal war based on lies.
It wasn’t lack of reform that made Jonah Brown steal our pensions and allow the banks to bankrupt the country.
It wasn’t lack of reform that made lare numbers of our MP’s thieve’s and liars.
It is not reform the House needs, it needs to remember why they are called Honourable memebers, they need to behave more honourably.
Electing a new speaker just to spite the oposing party is completely lacking any honour.
Before they bring in new rules, they want to abide by the rules they already have.
W.W.
Spot on comment, this is just a smokescreen.
Exactly, no reform is necessary. All we need do is be shot of the shysters infesting the house now.
Bring in new members who have some honour and scruples and all is fine.
Oh and while we are at it – prosecute and persecute the current crooks incessantly.
I’m Bercow. And so is my wife.
If they transfer oversight of their expenses to an external committee, why don’t they transfer their responsibility for passing bills to another oversight committee too?
If the fuckers can’t behave responsibly, and need this “reform” don’t they understand that their standing will go down in the public’s view not up?
“Reform” is signing the death warrant of parliament.
It’s difficult not to believe that the monocular onanist is happy about this.
Yes, it’s a bit like trying to reform a thief by tearing down his house and remodelling it in a different format. It’s the behaviour of person inside that is the problem.
If someone’s honest, they won’t do dishonest things, no matter how sh***y the system. If they’re not honest, they’ll cheat, no matter how many ‘reforms’ take place.
Dead right – and even if the expenses rules are tightened – just watch these hoons twist any ‘reform’ into yet a bigger wad for themselves. Pay rise anyone? They aren’t going to come out of this WORSE of.
Exactly.
I don’t want a tighter expenses system; I want MPs who wouldn’t dream of fiddling the current system.
Well said, you’ve hit the nail squarely on the head.
I look forward to all those in the fees office who authorized ALL (reported) disallowable expenses and the party(ies) who then leaked them to the media to be the first to be made publicly answerable in Parliament.
My instincts tell me I’m in for a long wait …..
I doubt ‘reforms’ will lessen Labour’s oppressive bullying method of government nor it’s clenched fist grip on media spin and manipulation.
Surely the most effective way of reforming Parliament is for the trusted Mr.Bercow to introduce the very ruling that enabled him to take the Speaker’s chair, namely the secret vote.
All votes in Parliament should be secret.
Governments would have to persuade MPs to vote for their legislation by proving their case, not by the use of bullying and blackmailing Whips, as is presently the case.
Parliament would once more govern!
Go on Bercow, show us what you’re made of!
Is ‘scorched earth’ Gordon McBigot or that fat bastard Nick Broon [chief whip and doesn't Gordon love a chief whip occasionally!]. Come on scorched earth, unmask yourself. YOU ARE GORDON OR NICK aren’t you? Either way, you’re certainly a pretentious Scot, so bugger off!
There is no prospect of this little Napoleon being anything other than ubiquitous, irritating and expensive. He will be ejected after the next election and I bet he crosses the floor in a fit of pique.
At least, as speaker, he won’t have to fight for his seat at the next election which has got to be a plus for the little toad.
He might still have to fight for his seat if an anti-sleaze independent were to stand against him.
I’m confused. If he stands at the next GE (a given) and he is obliged to give up all party allegiance, can he stand as a Conservative MP? What if the Tories deselect him? Can they, if his majority still looks healthy?
fausty, he is no longer a party animal. He stands at the next election as John Bercow (The Speaker) and by tradition the major parties will not contest the seat. Nothing stopping independents and loonies, though.
Deselect him = no floor crossing.
Who cares about tradition – the current government has farted at tradition for years. Put up a proper Tory candidate against him and watch the fucker burn.
You can’t deselect him – he’s not a Tory anymore as of last night.
To hell with tradition someone needs to stand against him. It makes you sick to your stomach to think of the reason he was elected, spite, nothing more, nothing less. Everything Broon does is not for the good of us the electorate, its to the detriment of the incoming Tories in the hope that they will get only 1 term. Bercow, the little creep, should be under no illusion that he is a popular choice, they chose him to spite the Tories.
Labour did not uphold tradition to elect a speaker on merit, did they?
Come to think of it, he should be deselected for his crimes against the public purse.
He better not get an effing huge pay off as well for a few months in the seat and on the subject of reforms, if a member crosses the floor mid term, they should be made to hold an immediate by election to see if those who voted him or her in want their allegiances switched.
So after landing my new job as Speaker, a good find for any outgoing MP…..I lasted less than a day…..
About two hours into my first day on the job a very loud, unattractive, mean-acting woman MP walked into the HoC with her two kids, yelling obscenities at them all the way through the entrance.
I said pleasantly, ‘Good morning and welcome to HoC. Nice children you have there. Are they twins?’
The ugly woman MP stopped yelling long enough to say, ‘Hell no, they ain’t twins. The oldest one’s 9, and the other one’s 7.
Why the hell would you think they’re twins?
Are you blind, or just stupid?’
So I replied,
‘I’m neither blind nor stupid, Ma’am,
I just couldn’t believe someone slept with you twice. ‘Have a good day……….’
My PM said I probably wasn’t cut out for this line of work.
” Dragged to the Chair” He virtually ran there
He may well install a machine gun to resist attacks.
Short as he is we shall all have to hope he rises to the occasion… again and again. Guido is right. Too early to damn him. He is indeed on probation…
Pity he appears such a smart-arse as well as a short-arse… Thinks… Such men often gravitate to Primary School Headship where their Napoleonic tendencies may be given free reign. Oh… Now I think about it… presiding over the MPs in their version of ‘assembly’ isn’t so very different…
If he quickly brings in a system of online expense claims and receipts which can be checked by anyone, this will be a step in the right direction – as seems to be the case at the GLA, where Boris has sacked another trougher caught trying to put his romantic lunches with his illicit lover on his expenses.
The Penguin
he’ll have to deal with his own expenses first!
Poachers and gamekeepers?
Fully approved and authorized by the fees office, of course, then used to damage the claimant.
It’s a question of trust in MP’s, and with the election of Bercow by New Labour, we can come to the conclusion that……..
I know where you live………..
I think people are too excited about this. The speaker isn’t the PM, or even the leader of the opposition. He will get on with the job and do it well as I am sure he wants to be speaker for 15 years. The hubbub will disappear by next week. This spoof sums it up rather well:
Tories furious as Tory elected new Commons Speaker: http://bit.ly/xgpqg
I really shouldn’t gloat but HAHahahahaaaaaaa!!!! HEeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! HHHHOOOOOOOOOAAAaaaaaaaaaaa HHHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
follow follwo we will follow Bercoe dee dum de dee
His first job should be to get rid of the hideous rat, Jill Pay, Commons Serjeant at Arms (aka rat-faced Hunt).
The verminous little retarded runt was appointed by Martin in his diabolical mission to fill the Commons with working-class scum.
Now then, there’s scum and there’s scum. Remember, being working class is an accident of birth.
I agree. She looks [and walks] as if she’s got the pox!
To the best of my knowledge and belief, no legislation has been debated or passed by Parliament supporting the new Speaker’s warning to MP’s, basically denying them right to speak to and/or voice their democratic opinions to the media, or indeed, anyone else they so chose. A ‘gagging order’ ?? It would certainly seem so and Parliament closes for the summer !
It’s fair to interpret Bercow’s immediate statement on appointment as a ‘warning shot across the bows’, designed to suppress and/or oppress duly elected MP’s right to free speech beyond the confines of Parliament. Or else – what, exactly ?
His opening ‘volley’ is threatening in content with, I’m given to understand, no Parliamentary rules or legislation to support his bullying, dictatorial tone to the MP’s he is appointed to serve DEMOCRATICALLY.
Will the real John Bercow please stand up……
……what do you mean, you ARE standing up?
Short-arsed twat!!!
Nadine Dorres said on R4 this am onlly 3 of her clan had voted for him.
How is the Bedford Spitfire’s libel/slander/whatever suit against McNasty and chums progressing?
Anyone?
She couldn’t put up, so she shut up.
If only she would shut the fuck up.
W.W.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8114000/8114288.stm
Nads on R4
he wont’ wear the clothes, he won’t wear the wig…..
probably won’t stick to the rules either…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/23/bercow-speaker-traditional-costume
Just saw this in article above ….
“new job comes with a £141,866 salary and a lavish apartment on the banks of the Thames”
blood pressure doing the tonne
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I just loved Jack Straw’s new look last night as he welcomed the new speaker, Mr Moo Cow or whatever.
Jack Straw ? More like Jack Sparrow –
http://costumesbypartyprops.com/images/brown_piate_hat.JPG
Which ‘rules’ – Parliament’s or the ruling party’s ?
Interesting that he ‘laid down the law’ before his backside had warmed the chair.
I’m assured no legislation has been debated or passed by Parliament banning MP’s ‘free thinking and free speech’ beyond the confines of Parliament.
It would seem the new Speaker is laying down a non existent law to MP’s he’s paid to serve democratically and those paying his salary, taxpayers, expect no less.
He’s a bully and already ‘out of order’, I’m reliably informed.
The advantage of a ‘secret’ ballot is that voters have no democratic means of checking the results.
It should be reformed to the Speaker of the house being elected by a show of hands in parliament – open, transparent and televised for those paying the Speaker’s salary.
The election of Bercow goes to prove that you cannot take politics out of Parliament. Labour backing Bercow was designed to get under the noses of the likely next Government – it was nothing to do with ‘The best candidate for the job’.
Having said which, I think a dangerous precedent will be set if the incoming Tory Government get rid of The Speaker.
He is now the speaker – just get on with it.
I don’t see it as dangerous if the Government elected by
the GBP get rid of a speaker who was not elected by the
GBP but by a bunch of MPs many of which will have been
rejected by the GBP.
How you’re in love with the stat.us quo
Everyone loves us.
* Whatever you want…. de ne de ne de ne de ne… Whatver you need de ne de ne de ne etc….*
Agreed. It sticks in the craw but whats done is done no point letting NuLab spring their trap.
Besides Bercow’s words have all been very fine; if he holds to them he will be a great speaker. I’m very dubious about him and his fine words but now he has the chance to prove me wrong.
I agree. He may prove to be an excellent Speaker, certainly he deserves the chance to show what he is like in the job. If he wants to keep it, then he’ll have to work to win the respect of all parties, including the miserable bastards who don’t currently like him. Unlike Jonah, he might improve now he has the job he was so keen to get.
The Penguin
How we will laugh if Bercow turns out to be a Trojan Horse
Wouldn’t that be Trojan Shetland Pony?
Trojan Thelwell Horse?
For which side?
The Trojans of course, Duh!!!!
The very fact that he tried to avoid paying CGT by flipping two homes, and the fact that he wants MP’s salaries to be increased to £100,000 per year should tell us that this man is as bad as the rest of them, and shouldn’t have got the job. As I’ve said before, they’re not interested in what the public want, it’s all about their self-preservation.
The public want an election now, who is speaker is irrelavant to the man on the street.
Here here Lizzie! When are we going to take to the streets to demand a General Election?
Hear Hear
I heard alan duncan sucking up to the burk this am on the radio. Wants to make sure he is allowed to get his questions in at speaker’s question time I suppose.
Too right!
Off the little bastard at the first opportunity.
He’s ravenously rampantly rapageously ambitious, a ghastly little man, it’s written all over his face.
Nothing like having a cuckoo in the nest I suppose. He is more Labour than Labour. The Brownies are crowing, but the Tories will have the last laugh methinks.
Just goes to show how little stumbling old undertaker Brown and his threadbare henchmen have to crow about!
Yes just crumbs off the table for Brown and the Brownies now in the “fag end” government.
Your comment assumes – incorrectly – that there is any justice in modern political life
Speaker Elect Bercow is a timely reminder that in the world made in the image of Nude Labour, shape shifting is necessary to advance your career. Opportunists do well in this strange Blair World. President Elect – aka the Smirking Chancer – Anthony Blair, has gone from pro abortionist to Roman Catholic in one leap & bound. Baron Mandelson – from Blairite to Brown nose in one jump and Bercow – from Thatcherite to Blairite faster than a speeding silver bullet.
It could have a been a short but sinister story by Philip K Dick. But frighteningly. It’s not. It’s our world right now.
Same old crooks, same old story, same detachment from reality, same lack of awareness of what they have done, same old arrogance, same old games…same olsd mafiosi talking to themselves. Rather like that other corrupt palace of public money fiddles, the BBC.
They know exactly what they’ve done. It’s what they intended to do.
They’re getting away with it, too.
Caught red-handed, guilty as sin, business as usual.
Fluoride? They must be piping lysergic acid into the water supplies.
diethylamide
Do android MP’s dream of electric sheep (on expenses)?
He’s so patronising though. His speech to the Commons was like a primary school teacher addressing 4 year ols….enunciating very clearly and slowly. He’s put my back up already. Plus which he’s too short. Can’t believe Carswell supported him….what was that about??
Me too – what was Carswell thinking of?
Perhaps he knows something we don’t
It was quite funny to see Carswell on Sky telling that fat Irish presenter that he was happy to see Bercow as speaker. Sky’s fat Irish presenter then told Carswell to let his face know that he was happy as Carswell’s face was longer than Bin Laden’s beard. Carswell duly told his face that he was happy and it mutated into a grotesque Brown like manic grin.
Well done that fat Irish presenter on Sky, TV AM must sorely miss him.
He was at pains on Newsnight to point out he wasn’t his first choice, but still…..I would have had Carswell pegged as a Widders man initially anyway. Odd. But the Berk ….?
never trust scotcher.
Dunno, but there’s definitely something loose cannonish about Carswell…Which can of course be a very good thing…but if his judgment is flawed, also very dangerous. Jury’s out on him at the mo for me, I think.
Strange roving mouth.
But have you noticed that the partly made-over Carswell now sports no specs… Contact lenses I reckon. Goodness me how it humanises his appearance. No more Evil Time Lord from Planet Purity.
He just loves the sound of his own voice. He is frighteningly ambitious. We needed a quiet studious man or woman with a lot of good judgment, experience, dignity, and humility, and we got the opposite. Put it down to NEWLABOUR the ghastly party with a touch of the night.
Umm, he’s got a safe Conservitude seat, how did he get that?
Answer:
The Conservitudes gave it to him, because they love that sort of thing.
Now eat what you ordered!
Fuck off Dolly!
Still you cannot see the puppeteers hand up his ass!
He seems to have a major problem in putting stress on the right words in a sentence. Consequently HE SEEMS TO PUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF STRESS ON EVERY SINGLE WORD LIKE THIS. This style of speaking makes it very hard to listen to him.
For most people, this way of talking would make their job extremely difficult. For someone who is a public speaker and indeed whose job title is “The Speaker” this makes his task impossible.
Arguably Gorballs Mick could not read or speak properly but I believe the election of yet another person who cannot speak normally is a subliminal sign of disdain from Gordon Brown to the people of the UK.
Brown cannot speak properly and could not bear to have anyone elected speaker witha a normal voice.
Brown is apparently still angry at Mandelson who, in 1983 , placed him under deep hypnosis and told him to drop his lower jaw like a mongoloid every so often when he talks.
It’s called ‘short house syndrome’; males below average height given to ‘bigging themselves up’ – loud and self opinionated.
The PLP have played an enormous practical joke on Parliament.
I look forward to him being picked apart every time he opens his mouth.
And for his expenses to be scruntinised in great detail.
Berkcow offered MPs a payrise in his campaign, ‘forgot’ if he’d paid CGT after flipping his houses twice, and has shamelessly sucked up to the Labour party.
I hope someone credible stands against him at the GE so he loses his seat.
send pizzas
Dorries: Three Conservative MPs voted for Bercow last night
I guess mad Nad won’t be getting to be called speak to often then, unless Mad Cow can rise above such petty traditions
He’ll be sending here-mails soon. No chance of a shared hotel room now.
So, at a time when the country is crying out for change all we end up with is a man who represents no values other than his own gravitas.
The fact that in the end he only had the support of THREE conservatives says it all.
This was clearly an act of spin from the Prime Minister (who Bercow has recently advised) clearly designed to try p*** tory mps off.
And of course lets not forget that this is also a man who like many others flipped his home, dodged capital gains tax, and claimed over £1,000 to clean up his own toilet thanks to a blocked sanitary towel.
All I can say is enjoy it while you can Mr Traitor because if many of us get our way after the next election you’ll need to throw the same towel in!
Bercow actually advised the PM on a subject he was very familiar with and I have to say that should not form part of any attack on his character. I’ve read some things on GF but calling him a spastic (Tat) is well below the standard of cricket.
You’re not telling me cricket isn’t corrupt as well as the hop are you?
Gordon found the legendary Brown Note. The note when played makes the opposition spontaneously shit themselves. Im sure hell be playing it again on election night.
Really, I think you are deluded if you think Gordy aint up to his own neck in shit already.
It’s another fudge.
The man obviously has all the integrity of a dodgy second hand car salesman and even looks the part.
This is not supposition but fact.
He is an insult to the British people.
Add to that his views on immigration – mass and unrestricted – flies in the face of many people including me.
Roll on unmentionables will be the result of this .
I, too, am willing to put up £100.00 to fund a good independent or independent Tory against him in his buckingham seat.
The people there deserve a choice.
In my view he is not only unfit as speaker,he is unfit to sit in the house.
Being the Speaker is like making love to a beautiful woman….
The Penguin
Do tell us, what’s that like then?
Hair trigger??????
Bercow should have been deselected by his local party as soon as he started spouting his dangerous nonsense on immigration!
Count me in.
I declare henceforth the palace of westminster shall be known as the Knesset-on-Thames.
An unfortunate racist comment
you’re right, it’s an outrageous offence against common thieves and tax evaders everywhere.
You have made your point, Lady Mosley…now piss off
Dude, we’re waaaay past giving a fuck about being callled ‘racist’ any more.
Ah, yes…the cry ‘racist!’ , guaranteed to shut down all debate. Wearing a bit thin now, though.
Its a compliment!
WAAAY past, well said. The fucking racist card has been used by politically correct arseholes (White,Black & Brown) to stifle debate in this country for waaaaaay to long now.
But probably true
If he can stop announcements in the press before being made in the H of C then that would be something. I am fed up with Brown’s Broadcasting Corpn reading out NuLiebour (in particular) press releases of what is about to happen. This ‘future news’ is just ludicrous and has seriously sidelined Parliament, a move in which the BBC has been complicit.
If it is Mandelson (or other Lord) who announces first to other than parliament, I think Speaker Bercow’s remedy could be to summon any such persons to appear at the bar (threshold) of the House of Commons to explain themselves.
Such a call may not belong to the Speaker, or not exclusively – I am not sure.
He’s only the bloody speaker, and can’t possibly be worse than Gorbals Mick.
OH YES HE CAN
Oh yes he can!
BEHIND YOU!!!!!!!!
I think he already is.
Agreed. We have more eloquent, intelligent and honest people on our l’il ol’ parish council.
Well surely he is just one of them – just like Gordy Broon our Prime Mentalist a deeply flawed individual – and one of the wee piggies with their snouts deeply in the trough. Are we surprised that ‘they’ found another one to back and install as the speaker. Roll on Scottish (and Welsh) Independence so we can be done with the Mother of all (corrupt) Parliaments and leave the wee piggies to keep screwing the system – sadly i dont see how any of this is fixable unless we could blow up the whole place – at PMQ’s – which seems to be the only time they are there – to get on the telly FFS – and be done with every last one of them.
Oooooh, an independent English Parliament!!! I love it when you talk dirty!!
There has got to be a way with a hijacked tube train when there is a late night sitting.
Please.
Good post, Guido. Let him stand or fall on his record. He will be determined to stay in post after the GE, so I don’t expect him to be a Labour lackie.
He’s only got to do 10 months, then he’s home and dry!
If John Bercow is truly only interested in that which benefits John Bercow his course of action is plain. He has to win over the Tory MPs. If by sucking up to NuLiabour Government he has got his dream job, it will only be by sucking up to the probable future Government that he will keep it.
Along with his mate Shaun Woodward, Gordon’s new best friend. Doesn’t say much for his judgment – picking the losing side!
Whatever King or Queen shall reign, I’ll still be Vicar of Bray, Sir!
Why is his surname pronounced Ber-co? Surely it should be Ber-cow as in moo-cow? Anyway ED Balls has been matey with him so what does that tell you? Balls was, apparently, bullied at school – you can sympathise with his persecutors. He has that kind of face that begs to be punched – don’t you think? Ber-cow and Balls (little and Large) traipsing into school, cowering in the comfort of their shared fear of yet another daily thumping.
it was almost certainly originally Berkow(-kow pronounced as in Coventry) or Berkowitz.
Bercoventry?
Berkuv?
Burqa?
If it suited his cause and there was enough money in it.
Berkelium – radio active element, or simply a burk?
Berkov would be my guess
Berk, off.
Maybe he went to Ber-kley with Dolly!
Barkoff
Bride of Berkowschtein ?
Unfortunately that is the government we have endured this past 12 years. It is the revenge of the bed-wetters and bullied. The kids at school who were shunned for being sneaks or beaten for being wankers have taken their revenge on society by becoming Labour politicians.
Finally it is their chance to bully and threaten and boy have they filled their boots. So long Habeus Corpus. Adieu double jeopardy. Hello ID cards.
Too bad that 60 million of us have to suffer because they still have an inferiority complex.
Fucking arseholes. If they were bullied at school then clearly they were not bullied nearly thoroughly enough. The bastards.
Aaah… That image will keep me warm through the cold,dark, winter nights.
Yes, but that’s 6 months away – already.
Like their leader they are pissing on us before they get slung out. They are rotten to the core. They do not understand of have any interest in the good of the country. At all turns it is petty party political gain.
Bercow not welcome here?
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/109356 sorry misread the Express headline!
Mind you Beckett would have been a worse “Burke-cow!” should have been Widdecombe!
I prefer the Ber-Cow to the Berk-Horse.
I see Bercow as a self-styled rebel who enjoys being provocative, a kind of student debater rather than an adult politician. He has never had any real responsibility apart from a nominal post in the Shadow Cabinet. It remains to be seen whether he has the energy and persistence to see through a major project of reform. He will sincerely want to succeed, but the forces of reaction in the Commons will probably grind him down.
Trouble is he wanted this a long time ago. Long before the expenses fiasco and the whole reform issue was hot on the agenda. Please could someone explain how he can be got rid of by the Tories anyway? Do the Speakers change with government?
Thought it was usual practise that the Speaker has no opposition from the other paties at an election.
Why do I keep reading that he may be forced out at the next election? How?
Hi Misog !
‘Cos if the Tories don’t like what they see from now to the next election and have a big enough majority, they’ll do the same thing to Berk as they did to Gorbals. Hi.
don’t think they’d get away with that… Still, time will tell.
Think he’s got to be given a chance even though he is a patronisng Twat. He also knows that if the Tories win the next election, Berk can be controlled or face being destroyed.
It was 300 years since the last Speaker was outed! ‘They’, might be getting the taste.
Should let us pick them! That’d sort things out…
A self-styled rebel he may be, but the fact still remains that he wants to increase MP’s salaries to £100,000 per annum – and we’re the mugs who are going to pay for it.
I’d agree with paying the Hunts £100,000 BUT absolutely NOTHING ELSE. No staff allowances, have staff provided for them from a civil service secretarial pool. No 2nd home or expenses. Only things genuinely necessarily and wholly required to perforem their duties, on same PAYE terms as rest of the workers, policed thoroughly by professional accountant and auditors, and checked over by HMRC.
Oh, and no more for ministers. Stop advancement being so sought after, then you might see backbenchers challenge the executive.
The Penguin
I don’t think they are worth their present salary.
Most of our laws are made in BRussels – thanks to most of them.
What are we paying them to do?
100K be damned.
God, no! An MP needs staff s/he can trust – having one appointed by the State is a step backwards. MPs should be independent, as far as possible, from the largesse of the State.
I’m all for grace and favour ’2nd’ homes and expenses, but only if the latter are subject to the same rules than govern the rest of plebia.
Travel warrants, just like the Army, that avoids the most obvious of fiddles and even if we gave them a car and driver it wouldn’t be as expensive as some of the more outrageous troughing with second homes. Don’t give them a “company car” as it might not be used correctly. A driver in a standard issue vehicle is safer.
Mind you I remember years ago being behind a government ministers car. I recognised the woman inside as the minister’s American wife. She was doing the shopping. Not what I imagine is the best use of the taxpayer’s hard earned.
Is Berca a Tango Man, like Peter Hain?
Probably, he’s got to do something to hide his ugly moosh.
Don’t be racist about little orange men. They are my friends and I love them.
Sorry but we are missing the plot here….as I understand it the Speaker has to move into the flat vacated by Gorbals Mick and has to live with the £200 a roll indian restaurant flock wallpaper and other design nasties Mrs Gorbals introduced. By the Summer, Bercow will have gone mad and pleaded a medical condition, he is then medically retired but still picks up the mega pension…very neat…leaving the way clear for a new speaker for the new Government. The alternative is just too terrible to contemplate…
We’ll that’ll be another claim for complete redecoration and furniture then. Let’s see how long it takes before he starts dipping his hands in the till again.
Are you sure it was Mrs. Mick who did the wallpaper? I vaguely remember Derry Irvine ordering Pugin wallcoverings at huge taxpayer expense.
Hats off to Bercow
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8113993.stm
Thieving short arse cnut.
MB or the Berk?
OOoooooow! ‘Ark at ‘er!
Do you drink beer in pint pots and change your underwear at irregular intervals?
No I drink Pinot in pints, and rarely wear underwear.
Now run along and play MB.
Ok
yeuch!
No MB I drink my beer out of a pint pot. Do they ask you for ID when you go in to a pub?
heard on R5 this morning:
Nicky Cambell: we’re now going to talk to an MP
Caller: how? via a medium?
Classic
Lets give him a chance. As many US Presidents have found, once you appoint a person to a job for life (or at least where it is difficult to get rid of them) they can turn out very different to their past record. Both Loony Labour and the Tory Twats may find they have elected a speaker with some balls and independence – even if the past suggests otherwise.
His balls and independence don’t come cheap though.
He had a chance as an MP and flipped and troughed.
You shouldn’t get a second in public life at that level.
Sounds like he bought his way in with the £100,000K offer.The HoC is a sewer.
There was not a Scottish or gay candidate for speaker, so Labour MPs were totally baffled.
This left Bercow, a minor from a minority as the only person they could ‘endorse’.
Aside from anyone’s prejudice, this is going to alienate more of the population in the same way that the present Foreign Secretary appeals to the Arab world.
You don’t mean that the fucking rag-heads will kick up and march on Parliament with Lord Ahmed at their head?
The Penguin
Not forgetting his 10,000 friends.
He could start by insisting that the PM supply answers to those “Questions to the Prime Minister” tomorrow at midday. If he does, that would be a good start. He could also tell the PM not to keep telling lies about what he THINKS the policies of “the party opposite” are. (Dave should keep his questions firmly on topic, and very specifically pointed to Government disaster policies).
If he could do just that on his Day Two, it would be a good start.
Any bets on that happening?
Brown’s delight at Bercow’s election should answer that for you.
But everything that Brown touches turns into a disaster! If I were Ber-cow I would be praying hard, if I believed in god that is.
Let’s hope so!
Dave has been absolutely hamstrung by Gorbals recently – there was almost no point in him turning up on Wednesdays becuase the one-eyed cnut would just spout his bile irrespective of what was asked of him.
Let’s hope Dave has a few well-researched and pointed questions for tomorrow, and that Bercow shows everyone that he has the guts to referee the match properly…
PMQS should not have a time limit, but instead it should be linked to a number of questions properly answered. None of that waffle about football teams of friendly MPs etc.
Can I just say how well it all seems to be going down there.
Keep up the good work everyone!
The hypocrisy of this man is staggering. How can someone with dubious expense claims be elevated to the office of Speaker?
When elected by a bunch of crooks – yes.
Ah, but the people who elected him also have dubious expense claims. All came out of the same mould.
Small men – big power, dangerous recipe! Watch gorgon, he’ll be going for pm next!
Milipede and Berkowitz have a lot in common.
Does Gay Gordon fuck Bercow too?
Even I hadn’t realised how deep anti-semitism still runs in the Stupid Party.
the bibilical Semites are modern-day Palestinians, both Muslims and Christians. The ‘semites’ as in ‘anti-semite’ canard are askhenazi cock-worshipping khazars, from modern-day southern Russia/the Caucasus, originally from Mongolia.
“Even I hadn’t realised how deep anti-semitism still runs in the Stupid Party.”
or in this blog
but be warned if you complain too loudly about it Guido has and will delete such complaints as he is far happier with some of the pathetic “yid” and other repulsive comments than he is with any comment criticising them or this blog
that’s the kind of blog we are now dealing with sadly
Dick Sniffin must be laughing his fat face off along with his toytown nazis
Just another tory arsewipe. Vacuous, grasping and no doubt as bent as all the rest of the shysters, chalatans, scumbags and scalliwags who incidentally are scoundrels. A 24 carat shitbag. I have every confidence he will surpass the fat Glasgow bastard’s mendacious malfeasance.
Even ConHome speak of Bercow being dragged to the Chair.Look again! He was virtually pulling his two handlers at one point. Mandy and Gordon must be very pleased with themselves this morning. Now it’s payback time for Bercow.
Lewis was one so who were the other two?
Carswell voted Berko, he is all over the media bragging it.
Deselect him now.
After the 100K too?
One of them was a female Limp-Dem.
Guess Bercow himself is one of them.
The Tories are on their way out? We live in hope.
Out of Opposition and into government.You are so right!
it is a real rock and hard place position. Noone wants Broon back and yet the thought of being run by the Bullingdon Club makes even Flash Mandy seem acceptable. So if you rule out both that leaves the Pink Panzers (God no!), Nigel Farrago and his wurlitzer favourites (never have thought the 50s was a great decade) and the Greens (do you realise how much flatulence their diets cause?). At this rate I may have to go LibDem – at least Opiks antics are entertaining.
Is it true that Bercow is a rehabilitated trouser partridge?
Ask Harvey Proctor
Did someone mention my gnome?
Ahhh the scent of a well reamed ring-piece…..
That Carswell chappie seems to be on all the TV and radio news slots saying what a good egg Bercow is. Does he speak for Dave or is he a lone Tory voice
He was the MP who put up the motion to unseat Gorbals Mick.
Then votes for Berko.
Tosser.
A bit like out of the frying pan into the fire then?
Importantly, there is to be no Speaker Beckett.
Bercow is a proven trougher and with a track record of a butterfly approach to his so-called principles. Can we expect him to change?
What has to stop is for front-benchers to tell him what to do, which is what they all did in their speached in the Commons yesterday. Bercow has to start telling THEM what to do.
For the Tories to try to oust him would look ridiculous. The last thing we want is a US-style system where the incoming majority selects its Speaker.
If Bercow doesn’t deliver from day one, there is the opportunity for his constituents to chuck him out — at the next election, a well-orchestrated campaign to put up an independent candidate to oust would achieve this.
The approbation ceremony last night showed just how far parliament has slid in terms of losing its gravitas:
— Bercow mincing his way to the chair, leaving the “draggers” eating dust
— Jack Straw, looking ever bit as uneasy as you would expect an NUS leader to be when sitting as Lord Chancellor
— New labour’s disastrous and ridiculous Sergeant at Arms (a post usually reserved for retired senior army officers) — is her hair a show of solidarity for Blears?
I’d rather have had horse face.
The Labour MPs didn’t support her.
Something in her favour.
Is that useless Sargeant-At-Arms still there?
I thought Martin had sacrificed her to cover up his own idiocy and incompetence over the Damien Green debacle.
Peculiarly named Harry Cole? Harry Cole? Peculiarly named? Are you sure? Doesn’t seem too unusual to me although I do live in a (still) predominantly white area.
What would you have him named?
How’s Gordon Brown’s mole? Still on the ‘up’ in the Labour party?
How about Len Tillman or Lee Ma?
Lee Ma? See, now that’s a peculiar name. Is he from Peru like that nice Mr Hannan that you’re so fond of?
Ma is the most common Chinese name.
(yes that’s foreign oooooooooooooooooow)
Ma may be a common surname in China but here, in sunny West Sussex, it would be peculiar. Unlike Harry Cole.
Are you posting from Shanghai? Your vinegar-stroke face would probably blend in a bit more there my hairy-palmed friend.
Your life must have bean very dull.
I don’t have to worry that I’ve been submitting receipts for wank videos to the tax man as ‘wholly and necessary’ so I guess from that point of view it is ‘dull’.
Wax or cream by the way?
It’s plain to anyone that you’ve bean dahl and windy all your life.
Stop evading the question. Wax or cream?
well said. It was like something from a Mecca bingo hall, without the class.
Oye Vey!
Mandelson, Milliband, Straw, make some room at the table
Especially on Friday nights.
I thought Cameron was only half Scotch? does he not count too?
Don’t you call me big nose.
So whats it gonna take to sack this guy and get him arrested FFS. I mean seriously, we’d all get arrested for this, why not this cnut.
Malik in yet more disgrace after claiming £1000 too much for his council tax
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1194876/Malik-disgrace-claiming-1000-council-tax.html
Shahid Malik has been caught putting in regular claims for his council tax between 2005 and 2007, without putting in a single bill.
The former Junior Justice Minister, who is already being investigated by the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards, claimed for council tax bills worth £2,999.
Malik’s band C property in Southwark in South London was only liable for £1,984.
Maybe he was also claiming for the flat upstairs which was owned by one of his many brothers?
You know, a cultural thing. Like no receipts or rental agreements.
The Penguin
I would like to know how Malik managed to buy a flat direct from the council for just £85,000, when a flat two floor up sold for £235,000 odd. This has surely got to be worth a more vigorous investigation?
How does this exaggerated, envy-fuelled hysteria relate to Guido’s post?
Typical.
More Tory hatred and jealousy (also dullness of mind given the total disjuncture between the election of the wonderful, Gordon-endorsed Bercow and the character assassination of Mr Malik).
Racist retaliations against Mr Malik because of his independently acquired wealth and the praises merited by his Socialist political victories, further show the foul moral rot eating the Tory party from the inside.
You idiots may well mock, and scoundrels wantonly impugn, but the fame and well-established probity of this great man will endure. Fellow-Socialists, look to the stamina and bravery of Gordon throughout his trials as you pray for the survival of comrade Shahid.
If you bother to read my previous posts, which you so very obviously haven’t, you would see that my anger is directed at all troughing politicians and not just Malik.
Get your facts right you idiot.
I think he was being ironic IWR.
Aw C’mon IWR, it’s IRONY. Y’know, a metal, like Coppery and Silvery!
I remember when I worked in Singapore, I had to scold one the servants for walking around in squeaky shoes! Amazing, this Bercow fellow just like that bloody servant! I wonder if his shoes squeak as well.
If Straw can be in the receiving party in the House of Lords, should he not have resigned from the Commons?
There’s lots of things that members of this Government “should” have done, except that they seem to make up the rules as they go these days…
Election please, so we can throw them to the wolves. I wonder who will be the independent standing against Berk-ow??
Westminster MPs Must Go! They’re all pointless. EU treaties oblige the 27 EU member states to incorporate EU directives unchanged into their national legislations. Hence, there are no debates about the directives and no alterations or amendments. The European Court punishes member states that do not oblige with hefty fines.
Yeah, right. Still waiting for the fines to be applied to France, Germany, Netherlands, Spain, in fact all EU countries EXCEPT UK. We do seem to be the only one to not only pass the new edicts through, but gold-plate them as well.
What happens if you don’t ? And refuse to pay the fine? Can you get thrown out of the EU. Please!
It’s the same with all EU laws.
The French and Germans lobby endlessly for lesislation, then fail to enforce it whatsoever against their own when it becomes law
The British lobby endlessly against the legislation, then enforce it to the letter against its own when it becomes law
Guess which route results in thriving businesses, and which with a massive recession and failing manufacturing industries. There needs to be a level playing field.
On the up-side this Will Ferrell look-a-like got the kind of reception I’d like to see being handed out to more of our MPs… To be fair, as punishment for interfering in a game of street football compared to suspension of Habeus Corpus and double jeopardy I think he got a more than adequate going over….
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/8111489.stm
We always played footie in the street when I was a kid. It was either that, or a two mile walk to the local park. Even the local bobby joined in at times.
How times have changed.
Every time the ball hit the floor you would get a fine from a PCSO for dropping litter.
If Mandelson (unlikely, I know) were to brief media chums in advance of a Parliamentary announcement, couldn’t the Speaker have him arrested, dragged to the bar of the house, abuse him with all the wit at his Buckinghamsteadian command and have him imprisoned?
They all make me sick!
As has been the long-standing subject of my philosophical, well-tutored ejaculations on this forum, Tories must imitate the modern outlook adopted by new Speaker Bercow if they are to withstand annihilation at the next polls.
The elegant and perspicacious Bercow’s views on matters of such public importance as immigrant admissions, EU annexation, laws to circumscribe outmoded Magna Carta liberties, and the deserved exaltation of our political class, show not merely his grasp of the prevailing trends, but also his courage to advance them.
The insightful maxims of the Tao mention this skill as one of brighest because rarest of human traits. Time-serving. Too often persons of conviction, say the terrible Thatcher, or of zeal, like the misguided Cameron, conceive wrongly that the public good is promoted if they encourage new principles or the preservation of old ones. This is a false belief and has been the cause of the ruin of many otherwise intelligent and noble persons.
Few in Nu Labour’s ranks have been so foolish as to submit to this delusion. Witness the magnificent fame and riches of the statesman Blair, or the abiding power of Gordon. Sacrificing all interests foreign to your own ambition is the touchstone of success and celebrity in this age. New speaker Bercow is to be applauded as a shining example of Nu Labour pragmatism.
It’s all very well spouting off about Tao, but he isn’t going to pay for Bercow’s grasp on the “prevailing trends”, is he.
Excellent parody fake Hardwidge. Keep ‘em coming.
Could we have one on Brown’s strong moral imperetive please.
Memo to David Aaronovitch: if you are reading this (and you probably are), I would like to inform you that you are a complete Hoon and an utter waste of (a lot of) space.
Yep. Somewhere there is a lampshade crying out for a new cover.
Yes, a really big lampshade with tufts of hair on it.
Let’s wait and see how Bercow performs.
Like many things Labour have initiated, I’m hoping this will come back to bite.
Yes, Maybe Bercow knowing of an impending Tory victory in the GE knows which side he needs to be on. These mp’s after all stick with the winning shit.
@160
Hoping with what purpose in mind?
As has already been demonstrated signally, it is the public who get bitten when parliament is run as a constituted shambles.
It is in nobody’s interests for the new speaker to fail.
Has anyone seen John Bercow?
Have you checked down the back of the chair?
They wont need to open the doors as he proceeds into the chamber, he’ll walk straight under them.
Mind you Snow White did ring me this morning asking had I seen Sleazy in the last few days as his bed had’nt been slept in. I told her to check his 2nd magical cottage.
I am so looking forward to some more shots of Sally in leather, and it’s not even midday.
Mmmmmmm, window candy. Let me lick it……
That fellow would get up my nose……….if he could reach!
To Parliament first and not the media?
So when Brown goes to Iraq to re-announce troop withdrawls, maybe he’ll have to stay there to avoid parliament!
I always wondered why, when announcing something first on the Beeb, the reporters never asked why it wasn’t being announced in Parliament beforehand?
Bercow.
Further proof, as if any were needed, that this Parliament never seems to tire of pissing in the face of the electorate.
The electorate must either love being pissed on, or they haven’t noticed it yet.
Perhaps when it is the lead bulletin on the six o’clock news they will realise.
The electorate either haven’t noticed or they don’t care.
Perhaps when the Sun tells them about it they’ll make a couple of grunts then carry on drinking.
It would be a fitting tribute to this parliament if, not only was it the first in 300 years or so to lose its Speaker in controversy, but it also saw its elected replacement get voted out at the next General Election.
Personally I don’t have a good gut feel about this new Speaker. Reminds me of what I felt when the last one was elected… a Labour MP replacing a former Labour Mp and contrary to the conventions of the House. This one could be seen as the only way of guaranteeing a Labour supporter is left in the house after the next GE!
Not just this parliament, but this Government needs a sharp boot up the backside to remind them of accountability to the public. The MPs voted him in. The public should have and take the opportunity of voting him out! Perhaps Esther Rantzen should rethink who she stands against!
Political Betting are speculating that Bercow conned Labour into supporting him. I don’t buy this theory, but interesting:
Was Bercow’s move leftwards just a ploy?
So was his apparent move across the political spectrum and public opposition to Cameron part of a well-thought out plan that led to last nigh’t extraordinary victory? Basically has he managed to con both Labour and Tory MPs?
http://politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2009/06/23/was-bercows-move-leftwards-just-a-ploy/
Now that would be funny. PMQ tomorrow….
Answer the fucking question Prime Minister. I’ll keep you here all fucking day until you answer the fucking question…
GB: BoooHooo, I want my Mumdelson!!!
Bercow: One eyed snot-gobbler…sit down
GB: Yes daddy
It was not a ploy. Read this on his website:
http://www.johnbercow.co.uk/10102005_conservative_immigration_policy_is_simply_wrong
This is about as far left as you could go on immigration. It’s Tony Benn territory.
His only saving grace is the is the old adage “set a thief to catch a thief”.
Check his exes.
He has one claim for £6,979.00 supported by an invoice to a “Victoria Roberts” rather than to a “John Bercow”. Got to be worth investigation
There are over £20k in various print invoices from a firm called MP Services who seem to be invisisble on the net
Can you give us a link to that £7k invoice? I checked his exes yesterday and didn’t see that. MP services are an in-house firm I think?
The Telegraph have printed the entire expenses file for ALL MP’s today, including the unredacted stuff in pdf’s. It is here:
http://parliament.telegraph.co.uk/mpsexpenses/home
Victoria Roberts is his femme name. As Speaker, he will get rid of the outmoded “men in tights” image. Instead it will be in with fishnets, basques, and (in his case) five inch heels. Let’s party like it’s Berlin in 1929!
If he were to don the speaker’s wig it would come down to his knees, the short-arsed troughing Hoon!
He should give the wig to Beckett as a consolation prize.
She can wear it back-to-front.
He’s not going to wear the wig or other accoutrements I think.
Just as well really, it would make him look like Widdicombe on a bad day.
I know its late in the day, but my money is on Ken Clarke doing it first
You must be joking, Guido. We don’t need to see “how he performs in the job”. We already know what a thieving little sleazebag Bercow is, and what a Brown stooge he is too. This is like Labour shitting on your floor before you throw them out of your house.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1194590/New-Speaker-John-Bercow-hated-party-tainted-expenses-furore–facing-plot-unseat-him.html
That Bercow bloke looks like Ronnie Corbett when he is sat in the Big leather speaker’s chair,
But will he tell slow meandering jokes?
Four candles please Bercow…
No. Handles. Handles for forks!
That’s what I said. Fork handles.
Billhooks
Unlike little Ron , he might get some Porridge one day
When he gets in to the Speaker’s Chair his feet won’t touch the ground.
We could make him a little step like you get for kids when they graduate from the potty to the toilet.
Bet they have to lower the urinals
The Sargeant -at-Arms could carry a little step around like Sarkozy has. She’s good for fuck-all else.
I spotted a small green pouffe infront of the speaker’s chair.
Oi! That’s racist and homophobic!
has the minimum wage had the same effect as quantitive easing in poor areas?
increasing the supply of money to the low paid has just increased the price they have to pay for things, leaving them no better off.
Minimum wage has also pegged wages to an artificial low for skilled manual jobs, thus creating a distortion
When will ‘socilaists’ stop meddling?
ps i have always paid wages far in excess of the minimum wage to ensure employee reliability
Not only is the vile Bercow as bad as the rest of them, he’s actually far worse than most. In fact, he’s probably amongst the top five of the most dishonest, greediest, and two-faced MPs in the House of Commons.
No wonder that Gordon Brown and Ed Balls both supported him and professional liar Martin Salter ran his election campaign.
Why single out Martin Salter as a ‘professional liar’ when you’ve got Gordon Brown and Ed Balls in the same sentence?
He’s a politician, it’s in the job description.
Surely a Speaker without a brain is a GOOD thing? All he has to do is remember people’s names and point for christ’s sake. Surely even Bercow can manage that?
Bercow works for Brown, as we shall all see tomorrow at PMQs.
He may yet surprise you. If he wants to keep the job he has so wanted, he’ll HAVE to be seen and heard to be impartial at the very least.
The Penguin
Off topic. Swine Flu.
My daughter’s secondary school (1100+pupils) has been closed by the authorities for one week following two confirmed cases of swine flu.
Teachers celebrate by heading to the pub.
Whereabouts are you?
We’ve got one case in a secondary school here. It has not been closed as the health authority says ‘she was not infectious when she was in school’… They had better be right. More concern is given to the economic consequences of a five day school shut down than the ‘flu… fortunately as yet it is mild.
Also off topic
Swine flu pandemic. So called because it’s killed……um….no-one in England…yet….but obviously it will mutate in the Autumn and kill more people than the 80s Herpes pandemic.
I don’t know the man but…….he would have to be some sort of idiot to try and be worse than that biased knuckle dragging Scottish Oaf Martin.
He will, like the rest of you, have his strengths and ‘not so goods’ – he will, therefore, surely ‘play himself in’ and keep a low profile?
Surely to god he will know that the speaker should not be the news or part of the problem?
Steady as she goes (oh and take some advice from Betty)
All will be forgiven and forgotten Bercow if, during PMQ’s tomorrow, you instruct the Prime Minister to answer the questions asked.
GO ON – I DARE YOU!!!
Happy you’re in New Zealand.
oiling my wings….
The alternative approach is to comment that the PM has not answered the question and to offer him another chance.
And finally if there is still no reply, the correct response from the speaker is;
“The House will note that the PM has not answered the question put to him”.
It avoids confrontation if it is done this way.
Just as they did for the useless Martin. I mean he must have known in his heart of hearts that he was a useless incompetent just like Jacqui Smith and the boy Miliband know they’re useless incompetents.
But 140K a year will give a chap (or chapess) an awfully thick hide. Like Smith and Millidolt. Sheer glib idiots just brassing out their incompetence but rembling like leaves inside. Like Smith when she realised what she’d done by allowing the police into the HoP.
You should have seen her when interviewed. Her legs were like jelly. They were practically holding her up from behind. She was moments from collapse with fear that she’d been ‘found out’. Only the presence of Jack ‘The Lawyer’ Straw gave her just enough confidence and put just enough steel in her legs to hold her up for a couple of minutes of questions before they rushed her to safety.
It is often the case that those with mental problems cannot see themselves as others see them, which is perhaps in some cases a blessing.
It is also true that those who are incapable of looking at their actions and behaviour objectively and thus seeing themselves as others see them, are more likely to have major character and personality defects because the mechanisms for self correction are absent.
I will leave it to readers to go through the political characters to decide which of these comments is applicable to whom.
Too fucking good for her the evil bitch. When she should have been defending parliament she let herself get bullied by the evil, fucking mendacious Brown over a mildly embarrassing leak into abandoning hundreds of years of parliamentary sovereignty.
And then, when found out and challenged she goes off on one about ‘national security’. Whgat a load of self-serving lies and shit.
We should send her used pages-stuck-together fucking copies of ‘Razzle’ at every opportunity.
Too fucking good for her.
I seriously believe if the MP’s get their pay rise up to 100k by the time the next GE has come and the fake effects of QE have worn off that murders of MP’s may occur in the street when their out canvassing for votes.
I reckon the 100k thing will be swept under the carpert for 4 or 5 years when the good old sheep public have dozed back to sleep.
No stalls.
The British public is now kept on slats.
Labour MPs won’t dare venture out onto the streets and neither will their supporters. They will be utterly invisible just as they were for the council and Euro elections. For many reasons. One, they haven’t even got enough money to print promotional material, two, they’re shit-scared of being punched in the face on the doorstep and three because they have no members left.
They’ll need a bigger posse than N*ck Griff*n to venture outdoors.
Too fucking good for the economy-wrecking, freedom hating, incompetent bastards.
So we now have a bunch of arseholes led by a turd you couldn’t make it up
Pensioner, there’s three kinds of people: dicks, pussies, and assholes. Pussies think everyone can get along, and dicks just want to fuck all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your assholes, pensioner. And all the assholes want us to shit all over everything! So, pussies may get mad at dicks once in a while, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes, pensioner. And if they didn’t fuck the assholes, you know what you’d get? You’d get your dick and your pussy all covered in shit!
For the last time Oaten, just fuck off, you need help you sick bastard.
Very dahl
Oooh! I can feel my pulse quickening!
Bean there done that
Prrp!
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Bercow is a troughing shit. Always has been – always will.
Why would anyone listen to Iain Dale about anything any more ?
He’s a joke who has been proved wrong on almost everything he’s took a stand on for months.
Go back to your fag hag Madine Dotties and ask her what your opinion is today Dale.
He’s a joke who has been proved wrong on almost everything he’s took a stand on for months.
Make it twelve years and he could be Gordon Brown.
Under the new Speaker members will be able to make half points of order.
Poor even by your low standards.
The Penguin
Well not everyone can stoop to your level.
How short are your legs?
O/T, but this on Sky:
“The Commission thinks that the Brit Nat Party’s constitution and membership criteria may discriminate on the grounds of race and colour, contrary to the Race Relations Act.
“The party’s membership criteria appear to restrict membership to those within what the Brit Nat Party regards as particular “ethnic groups” and those whose skin colour is white.
“This exclusion is contrary to the Race Relations Act which the party is legally obliged to comply with. The Commission therefore thinks that the Brit Nat Party may have acted, and be acting, illegally.”
Now, I despise racism in all its forms and I definitely do not support this party – but I do like consistency. Should I therefore report the Black Police Association to the Commission??
And all the fucking rest of them.
The Penguin
Good point Hugh – if one is illegal the other probably is too.
Does anyone have a copy of the membership criteria for the BPA, would be interesting to see how it reads??
C’mon lads do you think the establishment wants people to have a real choice.
If it doesn’t fit with the agenda its not allowed.
If this gets through and there isn’t a revelotion we’re truly fucked
The race relations commission have also stated that white people now constitute an ethnic minority in some areas.
That means that white people are just as entitled to be represented by exclusive special interest groups as M—ims.
Are M–im groups open to non believers?
only if you want to convert or be stoned to death
Political oppression. Using the law to suppress political oponents. In the UK.
Begun by Labour. Double jeopardy repealed and then used to try and retry political opponents until those silly juries give the ‘right’ result. And when they keep getting it ‘wrong’ then the fuckers actually move to get rid of jury trials altogether.
The Daily Mail and Gruaniad are kept onside by retrials of Abu Hamza and N*ck Griff*n respectively and meanwhile another massive legal cosh is pulled out of the bag to suppress political opposition.
This government is evil.
This is a yolk isn’t it?
The Equality Act 2006 refers to preventing discrimination by political parties, it doesn’t refer to police associations, black or otherwise.
Did someone egg you in to posting this comment?
Was it someone with the body of a lion the claws of an eagle and the brain of a bird?
Equality Act 2006. Was it around then that Labour realised how many of their voters they were losing to the B&P then?
Something must be done!!!
Yes. We’ll outlaw the B&P by the back door.
It is political suppression. You know it. We know it. And we know that you know it.
Whites cannot join the black police federation so will the old bill be nicked it’s a joke.
No, but the threat is wde ranging and the aim is direct. You try and set up a white police association and see the shitstorm that follows. This is a pernicious and vile attempt to restrict ‘democracy’ to the two party one agenda(effectively) state.
Harman and her masters are traitors of the first degree.
No. With Labour this is actually an ongoing effort to restrict us to a one party state.
Speaker Martin and Jacqui Smith broadcast their manifest incompetence when they colluded with Brown to pursue Damien Green over a mildly embarrassing series of leaks about how shit the Home Office is. From that point on the damage was done.
The ‘independent’ speaker was comprimised. The sovereignty of parliament was blown out of the water. And all for the short-term expediency of avoiding a bit of embarrassment for Smith and Brown. That was the point at which it became obvious that Brown was willing to destroy all pretence that Martin had been anything other than a political appointment and that Smith was anything other than an plank-based incompetent coward, appointed purely to keep up the X chromosome count on the front bench.
Two-party system? This evil government has put in place all the tools necessary to ensure a one-party system. And it’s actually field-tested most of them already.
Localy we have an afro caribian club. an Irish club and a polish club but no white engish club I wonder why?
There are other Acts.
Look carefully for example at the Human Rights Act and its implications.
Article 10.
Freedom of expression. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by Public Authority and regardless of frontiers.
Article 14.
Prohibition of discrimination.
On the grounds of race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth or other status.
Positive discrimination is therefore illegal and the Race Relations Board needs to dedicate itself to ensuring that all races are treated equally and that no group is accorded special privileges or allowed to break the law.
association with a national minority, property,
Note that Labour class war speech is also illegal under the act. Gordon Brown with his ‘Millionaire’s Row’ jibe is breaking the law.
The party that must not be named simply needs to change its membership criteria and rework some of its policies.
There are many black people who have every right to regard themselves and to be regarded as British, Ghurkas for example.
Party membership is self selecting. I don’t need any rules to stop me from paying a subscription to join the Labour Party.
If the party that must not be named welcomes all races and reworks its policies it will take all of Labour’s core vote. Forcing it to do just that is not really very sensible.
Quite so. As you say there are a lot of all types of Anglos and non-Anglos who are proud to call themselves British but want fuck all to do with the Labour party. If Labour bans the B&P by the back door then those voters won’t come trotting back obediently to the economic beserkers and freedom destroyers of the Labour party.
Not because of its immigration policies but because of its failure, over 80 years, to actually improve the lot of ‘hard-working British’ families. As the examples of Glasgow East, Northern England, Wales and other serial Labour voters prove it is demonstrably the case that voting Labour actually keeps you in (relative) poverty.
Not only that but while you are kept in relative poverty being taught from birth by poisonous misinformation that it is evil Tories supressing you the self-same Labour elite will continue to be packed to the gunwales with privately educated professional politicians whose families have been making a living out of lying to you for generations.
Step forward Ms Benn. Ms Dunwoody. Masters Miliband and Miliband etc.
And don’t forget the OAPs we wont vote for these bastards again
The party in question has a problem.
They are fully aware that if they open their membership every member of the UAF, SWP, 5 million from the ethnic minorities and probably as many again from the neo liberal brigade will immediately join and vote the party out of existence.
Anyone who condemns their membership policy has better come up with a workable answer.
The Equality & Human Rights Commission might care, while it has the bit between its teeth, to consider why members of the B*N*P are barred from employment in the police.
Since the Commission deems party membership to be restricted on the basis of race, then the police are overtly rather than institutionally (as defined by Macpherson) racist in denying employment to party members.
Just more unnecessary publicity for the British Naughty Party. “The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.”
Oh, God. The fun starts here Will Bercow burn? Or just crash and burn?
Did I just hear right? Bercow is saying he will give up his current second home / allowance, as if it is a big deal and he is being soooo generous and “whiter than white”. But (correct me if I am wrong, please) doesn’t he now get a fabulous “grace & favour” second home with his new job?! sheesh!!
Toad Hall to be let out then I suppose – sorry to say, but Toady Bercow is making more money now he is Gordy’s mini-me. Dont it make you sick…
Absolutely!
Here it is (“Times”) headlined “Bercow to give up second home claims while Speaker”…as if it is a big thing that he’s doing! Or am I missing something?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6561877.ece
Guido
Gather ye BerQuotes while ye may.
Any behaviour at variance to his ‘manifesto’ can be construed as ‘Misleading the House’
W
Oh – and it’s due sooner than expected.
Brown has let out info on something expected to be in Harman’s statement this afternoon.
Speaker could nail him now or tweak his tail tomoorow at PMQs
No, it wasn’t Ed Balls who did the first ‘pre-announcing’; it was the big one – Broon himself – on The World At One, nicking Hattie’s commons statement for himself.
So will we now see Bercow bollocking boastful Brown?.
Or will he just hide under the Speakers’ chair?
[...] Guido urges restraint on those wanting to push Bercow out before he’s had a chance as Speaker [...]
Fiddler on the roof. Picking OUR pockets.
If Berkow had been elected because MPs genuinely thought he was the right man for the job; fair enough.
But he was put there for one reason only: NuLabour spite.
This was an act of political vandalism, done not for the good of democracy or for cleaning up the westminster trough.
It was done as part of Nulabour’s scorched earth policy.
Let’s be as nasty as possible to the incoming tories by electing a speaker who is – it has been claimed – Nulabour in all but office.
NuLabour = NuNasties.
Whoever does it will be supported by Brown. He will simply utter his usual mantra, as he always does when trying to convince us and especially himself, “it was the right thing to do”.
Can you believe that the incompetent, biased, expense fiddling previous Speaker has been booted up to the Lords, where he will enjoy a daily, but undeserved allowance plus expenses? Why was he “elevated” when demotion, to a trial for misfeasance would have been what Brown calls, “the right thing to do”.
Our MP’s are so craven that they made speeches, praising him for all he did in his term. They still will not or cannot tell the truth.
And the bloody Labour party who played politics in electing Bercow, simply because the Tories, the next government, dislike him. They cannot forget that honesty, integrity and transparency, to name but three things should be placed before their petty politicking when the country is in such dire danger of total collapse due to the economic mess they have created.
And they have the effrontery to believe that we are better than the Iranian mullahs. Labour believes in power at all cost and at any cost. Rotten, dishonest and incompetent to their very core.
God help the students that Brown thinks he will be teaching after he resigns, which he will do to avoid the devastating defeat that awaits him a the next election, if he is still in office.
Rotten, corrupt, dishonest, cheats, the lot of them.
Did anyone hear on BBC radio this morning, a recording of the wonderful Betty Boothroyd, yelling at them to come to order saying “Order, Order, All of you!” We badly need someone with her strength, authority and competence. But anyone, I hope, will be better than the mumbling idiot who was thrown out. He could barely read his own scripts coherently. Who says a Glasgow education, followed by metal bashing, Union activity is a good path to power?
Get rid of all politicians and put me in charge of the whole bloody country. Then you will see some improvements. Bhurkas for all!
NuLabour could well look back at their political ancestry. The likes of Clement Atlee, a man of honour, integrity and a sense of duty to his country and to the electorate.
God knows what he would make of the shabby load of failed social workers and Polytechnic lecturers who make up the present dung heaps who stain the benches of the house of commons with their fetid exudate.
But those kind of conviction politicians are long gone. NuLabour is now infested with self-agrandising parasites, all thinking of how best to serve themselves, not their country.
[...] UPDATE: If you want to see what the ravening horde think of Bercow, with some very sharp and cutting analysis by Guido – have a look [...]
But Bercow is a Tory. If you Tories hate him, why didn’t you expel him from the Parliamentary party, and de-select him as a candidate? It makes no sense to say that the pompous Bercow is the Labour party’s choice.
The quisling has landed.
RICHARD BLOGGER
Are you mentally ill ?
Where do you think B-ercow got his votes from ? Even his campaign manager claimed that only 15-20 tories voted for him—and he was lying through his teeth .
See a doctor before you return to this site
Did anyone see a debate at lunchtime on Skynews today between Peter Oborne and Dame Michael White? I think they were talking about the speaker but couldnt be sure because I only briefly saw pictures and there was no sound (I was at work).
If anyone saw it, what was the general outcome please.
Bercow has to be given a chance. Enough people inside & outside of the HoC
will be watching and the heat is on him. Frankly I think he is in a very difficult place and life is not going to be straightforward for the poor bugger. Forget all the knocking and let the bloke give it his best shot.
Bercow is Blair without the charm.
Irritable, pompous, talking in threes.
See the Tom Bradby interview
http://www.itv.com/news/.
“With great respect, your reflections, your thoughts .. are absolutely of no consequence whatsoever”
totally arrogant 1/10 must try harder
if you ‘flipped’ bercow would he land sunny side up ?
the first reform should be to make the speakers chair smaller he looks ridiculous perched on it with no cushion.
Bercow wasn’t elected he was selected!
So much for Browns ‘transparency’. Hey, this guy wannabe a Skool Teechur… whats he gonna teach for goodness sake, it’ll take him a full lesson to get his words out!
I was for Young myself, but hang on let’s give this guy a chance he just might play ball… Ann Widdecombe was on the right track, who knows the Tory’s get in and Bercow might be a ‘has been’ but if he does the job equally what have you to moan about – this is what we want isn’t it?
The sad epitaph left by the election of Speaker Bercow will surely be “Farewell to truth and to democracy!” We now have the parliamentray equivalent of the Vicar of Bray in the chair only this one is so blinkered he will not even begin to comprehend the effect his partisan approach will have on the welfare, and rights of those who put their trust in the Mother Of parliaments!