Cameron’s Euro Time-Keeping
The only hard and fast promise Cameron made in his campaign for the Tory leadership back in 2005 was that he would take the Tories out of the EPP. He promised that under his leadership they would be out of the federalist EPP “within weeks”, then when he won it turned into “by Christmas” then it was “within months”. Three-and-a-half years later Dave got there…
Miliband warns with uncharacteristic wit that “the new grouping may contain nuts”. The Bruges group is ecstatic. No doubt there will be a few hiccups, political rivals will be keen to amplify any slip-ups. At least Cameron has finally delivered.
Now about that referendum promised by Nick Clegg and Gordon Brown…
Am I first?
Anyway, better late than never….
sums up tory policy on europe, better late than never
The Beast of Clerkenwell outed
Jesus H. Christ. Where’s my gun? What filthy bastards. I refuse to believe it’s the Beast. His standards aren’t that high!
Oddly
that looks like the kind of holiday accomodation offered by Tuscan Tony.
Classy but down to earth.
Now about that referendum promised by David Cameron…
whoops!
Kenneth Clarke told call me Dave to fuck off on Lisbon and Conservatives obligingly appear very keen to forget all about it and drop the mattter.
Never mind I’m sure this “formidable” bunch of rejects will help Dave make more tough empty noises about Europe while going along with it all and this “grouping” will of course help fool the eternally gullible in the Tory Party and even out of it.
Oi tink the Fenian means :
HICCOUGHS
Better track record than Jonah then.
The Penguin
I was always Pro Europe until I noticed the desperation of the ruling or ruining classes to force the Europe agenda. Europe while a great Idea is corrupted to the core because of the shit house animals that have filled its halls. The chance of a powerful europe for the good of the people has been sidelined to fulfill the power of the Euro Nazi State Political class, The London lot are no better, These greedy grubby self serving parasites are all the same class. So No to Europe
100% agree, MI6. There was a potential to do good with the original concept, but as ALWAYS, it seems, the maggots have got at it. We should not only be working to pull Britain out of the EU, we should also be working to dismantle the ENTIRE termite mount and thereby liberate the other countries who’ve been similarly enslaved by it.
Splendid stuff here!
Exactly MI6. Europe – like communism – is a good idea. The only problem is that they don’t work in practice because people are venal, ignorant and bigoted.
Communism isn’t remotely a good idea, even in theory.
The UK not happy in Europe,not happy out of Europe. Not happy with the sterling not happy with the Euro, not happy with the Union of England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland and not happy put of it. Come to the Uk a shit hole where no one knows what they want!!!
The only thing i’ve found funny about the EU is the legislative wars it has with it’s self. It’s like a schizo entity.
Pity we all have to pay for it in the end though.
Sometimes the EU slaps some bonkers dictator style laws down and then other times it acts like the hero and challenges bonkers dictator style laws.
All of course if you look subtly hands more powers to Brussels while making home governments look bad and eats up zillions of tax payers money. So when the EU plays good cop or bad cop it doesn’t really matter because the EU wins either way.
I’m sure it will be written about by outsiders at great length in the future history books about the EU’s right hand and left hand fighting each other and slapping member states to follow some other confusing and conflicting banal rulings whenever it felt like it each day.
Communism isn’t remotely a good idea, even in theory.
Absolutely right. Communism is evil at its most EVIL, in theory and in practice.
It is now and has always been an elitist ideology, promoted and invented by our OWN ruling class.
The most important factor in the creation of a one world communist nightmare is the empowerment of a WORLD CENTRAL BANK. Which is now empowered and TOTALLY controlled by exactly the same ruling class elites that have always controlled this profoundly evil, murderously insane monster.
Therefore we now live in a COMMUNIST world, whether the BBC cares to mention the fact or not, and have been doing so for some considerable amount of time.
Free market capitalism was always an illusion caused by wishful thinking and a desperate lack of alcohol. The free market only ever really existed for small business, prostitutes, and of course the truly vast majority which comprises the working/productive classes.
Where as fascism, communism, and all other forms of ELITIST MONOPOLY CORPORATISM, (better known as The British Empire, The firm, or The COMPANY) has always been the ruling classes preferred methods of making forever easier, faster and larger bucks, and therefore ruling over the common people.
The communist block did not fall, and it was not pushed. It was ordered to appear to fall by the people who really controlled it. Which is now and was then ultimately exactly the same people who have been controlling this country for the best part of 2 hundred years, and in other ways much longer then that.
The EU’s attempt at empire building will end in tears. I could never understand Conservative support for what is, essentially, Communism.
Milibland’s sharp isn’t he ?.
Remember a year or two back NuLab wanted a British Motto – an early (and the best) entry was ‘May contain nuts’.
NuLab motto “may contain honest MPs, but probably won’t”
Isn’t NuLab’s motto, “We’re all nuts! And so are you for re-electing us to rip you off again.”
No, the motto of Brown’s cabinet is:
WE HAVE NUTS THE SIZE OF RAISINS
Whereas Miliipede is bananas.
Warning Zanu-Labour MPs. Made in a factory that processes sleaze. Those with allergies to banana republics should avoid consumption.
Who wrote Miliband’s ‘punchline’ ?
They have to resort to name-calling. They have nothing else with which to fight.
You’re right. ‘Little Englander, racist, lazy, etc, etc….
They can do one. Sticks and stones etc. It’s where I live so fuck off.
Bet Camerhoon fails to give us either by design or default a referendum though. Any takers?
UKIP becomes more attractive by the day. They seem to be the least corrupt yet electable.
Seconded, agree with you and I hope to offer my help to UKIP soon
Same here. Fuck Dave.
I am already on board. The EU is Nu Labor writ large – central control of every aspect of our lives from shit bag politicians like Kinnock and Mandelson who were booted out of any sembelance of power here only to exercise it via the unelected EU. UKIP is now the only chance as all the others are on board with the ‘project.’
least corrupt? I’m quite keen of the Farrage gang but that’s not what their track record indicates.
Better than Dave,
So, everybody agrees UKIP is corrupt, but not so corrupt as the Lib/Lab/Con gang.
The pachyderm in the parlour is the Party that cannot Be Named.
And who conditioned you into believing that THEY are the devil in disguise and the root of all evil?
None other than Lib/Lab/Con/UKIP and the bought and paid for mainstream media.
Whiffler. May contain honest MPs is Wiffling in the wind
Exactly, what about that referendum Brown you bastard.
Brown’s most shameful episode of all – and there have been many. That the Lib Dems also went back on their manifesto pledge was very telling.
This all ties in with the expenses fiasco. These politicians think they are better than us, can promise one thing while they are after our votes, then turn around and tell us to naff off when elected. Then they wonder why there is such widespread disillusionment with politicians.
We need that referendum, or we need a general election. Either way, the present government has no mandate to represent us in the EU. We have no confidence in this government, it is unfit for purpose. They were not elected to do what they have done.
Very true.
Only 320+ more days. My worry is when it gets down to the last hundred.
Remember Napoleon. He was a bad loser too.
True, they think they’re a class apart. They think I am prepared to put up with their disgraceful behaviour (expenses, what they’ve reduced the country to and more) and then get all pally with me every five years.
Piss off and think again.
Too true.
bloody well said
Nuts, whole hazel nuts and they cover them with chocolate. Was that an advert for Cadbury’s chocolate or Hazel Blears?
I think she’s a fruit and nut case – or is that Mandy?
He’s a fruit and he likes nuts.
He COULD have meant a hexagonal block with a hole in the middle, or a young blood, a ginger-flavoured biscuit, a small lump of coal. or he COULD have meant a load of old balls, who knows, does he?
He likes bit of the old brown doughnut as well. Just like Blair and Brown. parliament of whores and shirt lifters.
Q. How do you get a Peanut out of your hair?
A. Cover it with chocolate: it’ll come out a Treet!’
Reality check bozos. We’re gonna have that EU Constitution and we’re gonna have the euro and nothing any of us say will make any difference. Ditto MP expenses and the MEP/Commissioner gravy train.
Pro -euro =a traitor, without a vote on the whole lot let alone the Lisbon constitution. Remember, it’s not just us in the UK who need to be heard and respected. Dave can make all the associations he likes because it is irrelevent.
Chocolate CHIPMUNK I LIKE IT
I bet Widdecombe’s arse takes some wiping
Best done with coarse sandpaper.
The Penguin
Not with the Tramsad Lochmeister II with spare battery pack and polishing head.
Make clag nuts a thing of the past with the Tramsad Lochmeister II – it’s free fitting!
In a plebiscite this September the Irish will decide on the Lisbon Treaty. If they decide in favour the Lisbon Treaty will be ratified long before any general election in the UK and well before the publication of any election manifesto.
Now that would put the Conservitudes in an interesting position.
This time around the Irish may well be tempted to vote ‘yes’ simply on account of the fact that they are THE most indebted nation in the developed world and are staring bankruptcy in the face. I’m of the view that they’d rather face ruination as supporters of a powerful bloc than ruination as outsiders.
and millions of us on the streets, armed with pitchforks
Have you stopped selling them?
So, at last you’re admitting that they’re gonna win the next general election?
You know it makes sense.
Actually it will make it harder for the Conservitudes to win a general election. The reason is that they will have to include in their manifesto a promise to have a plebiscite on the provisions of the Lisbon Treaty.
In any event it will highlight and expose the schisms in the Conservitude Party.
Hush puppies!
Schisms? You mean between Ken Clarke and everyone else? The Pro-EU lobby in the Conservative Party is a shadow (albeit a fat one) of its former self. And the anti-EU lobby can simply point to public opinion being on their side.
Ok so what will the Conservitudes put in their election manifesto?
In effect they will accept the Lisbon Treaty, then what?
Schisms, splintering, in fighting.
Enjoy
Yeah, the electorate are gonna vote for McTwat who reneged on a referendum. Dream on.
“Schisms, splintering, in fighting.”= New Labour.
M. Baiter: “they will have to include in their manifesto a promise to have a plebiscite on the provisions of the Lisbon Treaty.”
Nah, they’ll just sell us down the river like the rest of the political class.
What planet have you been on the past 40 years?
What a fucking waste of space you are. Piss off. Don’t come back.
Has it not occured to the Conservatives that having 7 stand for speaker will split the Conservative vote, making way for the troughing Beckett. I suppose that will be the green vote then!
Referendum?
I for one would not be amazed if Broon stood up in the House next week and said “we said we’d have a referendum, and we did. We had it last week. I’m astonished the opposition can’t remember it. We definitely had it. Last week.”
This would then be repeated on the ‘Today’ program by Mandelson, and in the Daily Mirror by Macguire, and would become fact.
You mean a bit like the newspaper in Orwell’s “1984″, and all the output of the “Ministry of Truth”?
Some of the Tories’ new friends were parties who took a leading role in ending Communist tyranny in Central and Eastern Europe, for example the MDF under Antall József in Hungary led the struggle against one-party Socialism in that country for decades. Too bad that Miliband’s mates in the Hungarian Socialist party have returned Hungary to authoritarian rule. If it’s “nuts” Vs Commies, I’m on the side of the nuts.
Better late than never, it’s a sad day when it’s news that a manifesto commitment has actually been implemented.
Now, how can we pursuade the Irish to vote “NO” in their referendum, given that it will take a miracle for us to get one over here…??
The Irish had a quick lesson in economic reality this year.
They know they’re bankrupt and need all the friends and support they can get. With the fig leaf of concessions, they will vote in favour of the Treaty.
There is very little hope Irish say no and if they do Mandleson will have something up his devious sleave to make sure it is ratified before any General Election.
That is the only reason why this dishonest bunch can remain in power, and the only reason he saved Liar Mcmental’s skin and let him remain as PM
Easy, just tell them the English want them to vote no.
Dave’s a wanker. He’s just another sell-out if the truth be known. Pinko scumbag like all the others since Heath.
Heath was a one nation Tory and so is Diamond Dave. Everyone to read ‘Sybil’.
Heath got us into Europe in the first place.
God, you trolls are a pain. The sooner you accept that DC has pretty much single handedly ended the prospect of the nulab thousand year reich, and put the Tories in pole position, the better. You have a stark choice between wasting you votes on some nebulous unelectable ukip protest and helping get rid of a few more nulab mps.
To be replaced by a thousand year EU Reich.
Unless the Lisbon treaty is dead by the time of the General Election, we must have a referendum. No ifs. No buts.
Speaking of pinko scumbags you appear a bit hasty mate – who reneged on the Lisbon referendum? and more to the point who has been in power for 12 years?
I’ll tell you who hasn’t its Dave – now fuck off back to your pinko mates at labour.wankers.co.morons.
Calm down, calm down. Alright eh? You know, err, like, err, ‘ere was me thinkin Labour ‘ad shot ‘emselves in the foot, like, eh? Ah mean, like, they’s gonna lose, right, eh, an, you know what, eh? you know what? Ah mean, it don’t make any friggin difference, right, who wins the speaker vote like. Know wharra mean, like eh?
Whatever you might think of Dave, at least he has shown himself to be taking the lead of all the party leaders during the expenses stories, in recent weeks he has looked more like a PM in waiting than he ever did before.
Probably the best thing he has going for him at the moment is that he isn’t Gordoom Broon – what’s the saying about governments losing elections rather than oppositions winning them?
A trougher heading a herd of troughers but squealing “Sorry!” a bit quicker and louder than the leaders of the other two troughing herds?
And that’s what passes for key Prime Ministerial qualifications these days?
Other great war movies
Nigel Farage – the Battle of Britain
Alistair Darling – The BoomBusters
John Prescott – Battle of the Bulge
Gordon Brown – colonel Bogey
Jacqui Smith – Top Gut
Hazel Blears – Das Booted
No need for a referendum, its just a treaty.
Didn’t have one from the Tories for the Treaty of Rome, or the Maastricht Treaty. Didn’t have one from Labour for the Nice Treaty. If the Irish vote is positive this time around the Lisbon Treaty will be ratified, as it should.
If you change your name to Trombone does that make you any different?
Yeah, let’s emphasise the ‘rat’ in ratified.
Afraid you’ll lose the referendum then?
Cock trumpet.
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
???What?? Construe!
Elliot Morley.
If you think that, wait another 6 months when another half a million people are unemployed. It could be 3million by Christmas.
Financial misconduct is the proverb of this government.
You still alive Inquisition?
I thought Gordon’s endless blunderings had made even the paid trolls give up posting.
Well, nice to have you back. What’s the story on Marge Becket’s claims for housing allowance while living in a grace and favour residence and renting out her second home. Came to around £83,000 I seem to recall. That’s not including pergolas and hanging baskets etc.
Is she still a good old salt of the earth, brown ale and whippet pie type of lass or does she count as a greedy Tory now that she has been exposed as a greedy trougher? What about the rest of the brothers and sisters of the revolution. Are they still better than the opposition even if they have claimed for a heated television and marble doorkey?.
Inquisition = Master Baiter
Financial misconduct = Conservatives ,
The Inquisition = Jonty Pryor, Harkonnen.
Inky, you’ve been quangoed.
Now look here, they don’t call me Cash for nothing you know.
Steve Expat said ” it’s a sad day when it’s news that a manifesto commitment has actually been implemented”.
This is a timely reminder that one thing that may well haunt NewLabour at the next election is the failure to honour their 2001 manifesto commitment not to introduce university “top up” fees during this parliament. The first group of university students to bear £10K of fee debt (plus another £20k + debt for living costs) is graduating this month with little prospect of employment at all let alone employment in which having a degree would earn them a significantly enhanced salary.
Very sadly, many young people and their families have been suckered by the Blair Brown social engineer’s dream which was supported by virtually fraudulent mis-extrapolation of data relating to 1960s/70s graduates. Come polling day, they are unlikely to forget the heap of debt hanging over them.
But they thought it was RIGHT.
Typical. Cameron takes Tories out of EPP, just when the balance of the group starts tilting away from German eurocentrist thinking (and European Christian Democrats start talking about cutting public spending).
From what I’ve seen of the new group, it looks exactly like Blairism to me, so I shall call it the “New Labour Group.”
All this BS about energy (giving cushy contracts to political donors), public services (pretending they can be made to work instead of reform/abolition/privatisation) and sucking up to President Obama (as he begins his slide into mediocrity and public contempt). I’m glad I didn’t vote Tory in the Euro-elections
Wonder who wrote that for Moribund?
Personally, I think Dave pulling out of the EPP is ‘Quality Street’ unlike Brown who is ‘Fudge’ and his new friend Mandy who is ‘into Fudge’
OK, OK – so I haven’t got Moribund’s speech writer.
Can I eat your fudge?
Quality street favourites around the conference table
Toffee Finger – {was Caroline Flint – Now Harriett Harman}
Vanilla Fudge – Lord Mandelson
The Purple One – Keith Vaz
The Green Triangle – Ed Miliband
Orange Cream – Peter Hain
You forgot Pauline Cracknel
God save us all
Prrp!
Oh come on Guido, being a bit unfair here I think – it’s not Xmas for another 6 months, he’s well within the promise!
Son of the Manse? my arse – there is no manse
If anybody can find a manse connected with St Brycekirk, Kirkcaldy, I will show my bum in Woolworths window
I might be interested if there’s a 99% discount.
I would be interested if pick ‘n mix is included!
Ohhh I say
Alan, you do the weeding and I’ll follow up behind.
I shall gather the evidence immediately.
That’s a vain glorious threat since Woolworths are as dead as a dodo. Would it be Wellworths then?
Remember “Vote Labour, get Brown”? Well vote UKIP and keep Brown. Magic, so thoughtful.
Get rid of Labour and if DC reneges, then vote elswhere.
I’m going to vote with a concience then at least I can tell my grandchildren I voted for me not OldRightie
If DC renages!
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spin on it
We’re fucked.
Master Baiter = Jonty Pryor, Harkonnen.
William Shakespeare thought there was a letter ‘W’. So did my illustrious ancestor of the same name as me. It’s just that they weren’t very good at printing it – they used to stick two Vs together to save money.
Speedo the Peado
Also see the history of the letter “S” you fuckwit”
There’s so many less trolls about these days. Is it Darwin at work?
‘…less of quantity, fewer of number…’
At long last Cameron’s promise made to the activists during the leadership hustings has been delivered.
A promise kept is a promise kept, forget the delay.
The delay was the result of the compromises of power in relation to the idealogical purity of having no power, or status.
The tories are now acting in step with public opinion with regards european integration, both in the UK and increasingly on the Continent.
The hordes of faceless, unelected, unnacountable bureaucrats who are profiting from pressing the Fascist integration project are emphatically out of step.
Next step the referendum, if the Tory team loses Ken Clarke it’ll be a great pity, but ultimately worth it.
‘Mr Brussels’ Clegg, and ‘national embarrassment/terrified of losing an election, any election’, Brown wont offer one, so the Tories are pressing at an open door.
Politics is simple really, you have hold a belief, a set of values, a series of goals and try to implement them.
Brown thinks politics is about misrepresenting your opponents, bullying and smearing rivals, breaking promises, and treating the populace as idiots.
How he must wish he could wake up and find he’s the puppet premier of a warsaw pact nation, circa 1960, all those tractor figures…..
“Camerons promise to the activists”. What about Camerons promise to the electorate,
remember the referendum on Lisbon. NuLabour BluLabour your both the same
My hump, my hump, my hump, my lovely lady lumps
O/T, but I hear that Sarkozy has announced that burkhas are not welcome in France, as they are a symbol of female subservience. I’m inclined to agree, but can forsee some huffing and puffing from the Muslim community.
Perhaps they could reach a compromise by having burkhas with higher hemlines – say about 9″ above the knee.
Right – I’m off to listen to ‘Clue’.
ha ha ha
BUT! Lets not forget that Lisbon vote shall we.
Read Dan Hannan’s take – bang on the money.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/5587735/We-cant-have-an-election-until-its-too-late.html
Even better, he lays out in another blog how the Irish are not getting any real concessions because they won’t amend the treaty, more like assurances not worth the paper they aren’t written on….
how about psychopath MP Frank Field who wants to enslave the entire population.
Isnt he a nut?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/the_daily_politics/7907924.stm