June 21st, 2009

Labour Whips Beckett Votes

If, as many reports suggest, Labour is now whipping votes for Beckett in the election for Speaker it dooms Bercow’s candidature, since he has no more than a handful of Tory backers.

It is a shame that Richard Shepherd is not in the running.  A thoroughly decent man with a longstanding record of support for freedom of information who is also among the lowest expense claiming MPs. So he won’t win of course…


384 Comments

  1. 1
    riesler says:

    Will the new speaker be a woofer or a tweeter?

    • 8
      CARRY ON GOVERNING says:

      Woofer or tweeter?

      Is that the same as a hound or a sparrow?

      • 19
        Joe Gormley's grandson says:

        Beckett will be a Parrot, repeating what she is told to say.

        • 56
          Peter Hoon says:

          One quick bowel-ferreting and 30 minutes under the UV lamp is all one needs to retain one’s vanity. Does my bum look big with this furry mammal hanging out of it?

        • 132
          Lord Mandlebum of Fondleboys says:

          He’ll be a woofter if I have anything to do with it!

        • 133
          13eastie says:

          What is the point of whipping a secret ballot?

        • 308
          Dr Jung says:

          If she DOES become speaker, I’ll be forced to release the sex-tapes.

          And so, tell me more about your father..

      • 25
        Sir Bufton Tufton says:

        The next Speaker will undoubtedly be a “Trouser Partridge” AND a “Cigar Warbler”.

        Such is the moral decay at the heart of the system I am given to understand it is not beyond imagining for the next Speaker to also be a “Trombone Paraglider.”

        Sad yet strangely amusing times.

        • 34
          Ewanme says:

          Rubbish , honey x .

          It’s gonna be a bowel-ferret . Ouch !!

          E x .

        • 38
          Bowel Ferret says:

          I just saw that James May fellow nearly going to the moon. Life-affirming stuff and if he is on more often , I may consider buying a licence.

        • 76
          P.c Filth says:

          You are, seriously, nicked Ferret. What’s your name, sir? Why have you got entrails on the end of your truncheon, sir? Who cares? Walk this way, sir. Over.
          **Filth minces off stage right**

        • 81
          Dick Cheese. says:

          The next Speaker is going to be tri?
          God save us.

        • 378
          jean says:

          Why, in a democracy, a ‘secret’ ballot ?

          Why not a show of hands in Parliament – open and honest and televised for those paying their salaries ?

          There’s no means for those casting their votes to check the count. The outcome is probably preordained by the ruling regime.

      • 236
        Anonymous says:

        Hammer or a nail?
        Now i understand.

        (with thanks to my headmaster in the 60′s)

    • 114
      going down the pan says:

      she will be a nayer !

    • 172
      Sick of Politicians says:

      Beckett’s one of those nasty pieces of work. We all know who they are, the total politics arseholes that wouldn’t give the time of day to anyone of another political persuasion. Beckett is one of those. She is thoroughly unsuitable for the job.

      She would make a piss poor speaker, and would further disenfranchise the electorate. Is that Labour’s strategy?

      • 297
        Come the glourious day says:

        Yes

        • 322
          Sylvia's Mother says: says:

          She going to get it and its all Brown’s doing. A deal has been done. If you think Martin was bad watch as this bitch is poison. As you can tell can’t stand the woman. Let’s hope it will be short lived and the other parties make it clear the speaker’s chair is up for grabs after the next GE.

      • 362
        lexander says:

        Remember also, she is after the huge pension that comes from doing the job until the election! Enough for a new Campervan and a few flower pots methinks. Perhaps a major facelift. Those bags have got to go surely?

    • 239
      Trough Mixture says:

      If the speaker is to be expressed in terms of an electronic component, a Mullard springs immediately to mind.

    • 245
      albacore says:

      Infinitely baffled for sure.

    • 272

      Labour whips have learned nothing. This is as usual a farce, maybe they should opt for a more modern way to select the speaker. Ant and Dec where are you….???

      http://thestupidtimes.blogspot.com/2009/06/new-commons-speaker-to-be-chosen-on.html

    • 348
      Jimbo9848 says:

      Twitter #cable4speaker

  2. 2
    A concerned parihioner says:

    If it carries on like this we may as well vote for Ted Bundy

    • 12
      Al Bundy says:

      * Now son, look here, these redwood-trees they’re over
      a thousand years old. I’m gonna cut me one of these down
      and use for a base for my satellite dish.

    • 140
      (né Theodore Cowell) says:

      There’s gonna be people turning up in canyons and there are gonna be people being shot in Salt Lake City because the police there aren’t willing to accept what I think they know, and they know that I didn’t do these things.

  3. 3

    Why must we have another Labour speaker?

    • 16
      Dippy ness says:

      Because the Labour Government says so silly… the Labour Governemt consisting of Blair and Mandy.

      • 20
        grandma B says:

        At present there’s more of them, but hopefully there’ll soon be less of them.

        • 26
          Dignitas says:

          The most suicidal Government in history, by a long stretch.

        • 28
          Twizzle says:

          You think so, Grandma? This is the start of the ‘no election’ campaign.

          Beckett is being inserted by Mandelson to ensure Parliament is neutered when the next ‘election’ os ‘postponed’. AljaBeeba is already onside – after all who could possibly want baby-eater Tories back in charge?

        • 120
          going down the pan says:

          it’s the only beckett has ever been inserted ! mankybum on the other hand ?

        • 148
          13eastie says:

          Nothing “inserted” by Mandy remains untainted for long.

        • 238
          Anonymous says:

          Actually Kinnockio’s speech in legend was and still is the longest suicide note in history (No offence Dr Kelly) however I suppose 12 years of Labour socialist rule may actually surpass that by quite a country mile or should I say an EU meter.

          The guys and gals somewhere else in the world showed us this is not the way it has to be. Watch TV!!!!

    • 27
      freddie flintoff says:

      because labour said so

    • 30
      Anonymous says:

      Cos Zanu still have a huge majority in Parliament. In a year from now they should be ousted. Now since they have established the precedent of making the post of Speaker political, its just a simple matter of a confidence vote in the next parliament and another bit of the British tradition goes the American way. The speaker gets politicised. And whats to stop the next lot politicising AlJabeeb too? And in fact, lets get all the lefty bastards at once. Clean sweep. Dismiss every one of them in any position of authority. From Police chief to hospital administrator. And since the Labour Party seeks to ban people from employment because of their political beliefs, why lets go in for that too.

      The problem with Pandora’s box was that once it was opened, the menaces unleashed couldn’t be put back. Zanu should ultimately be banned. Hoist on their own petard….

      • 37
        freddie flintoff says:

        i will bring the barmy army with me after the ashes ok peeps

      • 47
        Steve Expat says:

        And whats to stop the next lot politicising AlJabeeb too?

        I think the current lot have done a pretty good job of that one already. The Beeb’s political output might as well be written by Mandlebum for how partisan it is…

    • 39
      Sick of Politicians says:

      I don’t suppose it matters too much now. The government may as well use its numbers while it can, because in a few months or so Labour will be lucky to have more than 200 MPs.

    • 124
      Anonymous says:

      Because stupid young Tories like Douglas Carswell, blinded by their own testosterone, thought they would make a name for themselves by bringing down the Speaker when Labour had an absolute majority in the House, instead of waiting a year until the Tories could choose who to elect.

    • 265

      High time the Conservatives ignored the “convention” whereby no one opposes a sitting Speaker come General Election time.

      The choice on offer is dire.

      The Penguin

    • 324
      Sylvia's Mother: says:

      Labour have taken away every other part of our heritage so why not this one. This government will go down as the worst in our history for so many reasons that to list them here would take up to much bandwidth!

  4. 4
    Olly boy says:

    I think the amount of troughing is a key aspect that MP’s are looking for when they vote for a speaker.

    The more troughing, the more votes they shall get!

    • 89
      Anonymous says:

      Yes, a kind inverse humanism.

    • 260
      barefootcontessa says:

      They all have a bad expenses history, don’t they? The speaker should be entirely neutral, preferably not a politician, preferably not elected by parliament. Why do we need politicians at all? Why can’t we have our
      ‘rulers’ elected in the same way juries are elected, with a compulsory term of so many years? The 2/3 party system is totally out of date, tribalism is dead, although
      the parties involved don’t yet realise it. Politicians only do what they do best , connive and wheel and deal for their own power. How is this behaviour in the interests of the country? Selflessness is contrary to every fibre in a politicians body.

  5. 5
    Anonymous says:

    How can Labour be whipping? It’s supposed to be a secret vote.

    • 11
      Scorched Earth says:

      Excellent point and it has to be said if the Whips were actually ever stupid enough to try that it would backfire horribly in a secret ballot.

      Fact is Beckett is already viewed with deep suspicion on the Labour backbenches as it’s not really the “done” thing to parachute someone who was recently in the high echelons of Government like a Minister into the Speakership.

      The Backbenches are pretty clear that they want the Speaker to be “one of them” and speak for them and Beckett is getting some very sour noises from some on Labour who suspect her deeply.

      • 22
        Dippy ness says:

        Since when have the rules applied to this Government? Do honestly think a little thing like a secret vote would stand in the way of them getting what they want?

      • 24
        Leveller says:

        As you say any whipping will be totally ineffective and probably counter-productive, given that it is a secret ballot. But if MPs are serious about having a Speaker who will be a champion of the backbenches against the executive then how can they seriously consider voting in another Labour MP (the third in a row) and more importantly a very recently sacked minister, who had been a member of the government for 12 years, and who as such can scarcely be expected to champion the cause of the backbencher. Admittedly she was sacked from the Brown government and may therefore not be too well-disposed towards the government, but that is debatable and she may have been told by Gordon Brown that she would be backed by him if she wanted to stand for Speaker as a consolation for getting the heave-ho. But can she really be seen by the House or by the general public as a genuinely “Independent” candidate, and if not, then what the bloody hell does the House think it is doing in voting her in, if they do??

        • 35
          Scorched Earth says:

          Normally placid Brown-noser Stephen Pound is the one who was mouthing off about the Whips. So it’s clearly not having the effect the Whips hoped.

          Either that or Pound has a grudge against Beckett (not unheard of) as making this public does indeed harm her chances.

          It is going to be a bit of an unpredictable bunfight in the end as the secret ballot multi-round system could throw up someone fairly unexpected.

          Even Alan Beith could be in with a very strong shout believe it or not.

          It’s who is left standing at the end not necessarily who is the favourite.

        • 55
          Dippy ness says:

          Widders perhaps???

        • 280
          barefootcontessa says:

          Secret ballot? With the newlabour thought police about?

        • 282
          barefootcontessa says:

          Why do the parties have to have whips then?

        • 284
          barefootcontessa says:

          H. Harman said there would be no whipping so that must be right then? Mmmm.

      • 91
        Anonymous says:

        There is no such thing as secret. Except when the public seeks information, of course.

    • 80
      Flashman says:

      Won’t the Jockey Club have to suspend them for overuse of the whip?

    • 266

      It’s not who votes that count, it’s who counts that counts.

      The Penguin

    • 300
      Stronghold Barricades says:

      It’s Labour democracy in action

      I presume that the horse woman will accept without dissent the great workings of our noble leader in his attempts at rehabilitation…and maybe we’ll lose two speakers within a year?

    • 327
      Sylvia's Mother: says:

      It should NOT be a secret vote. The fact that it is a secret vote makes the job of labour that much easier to install the one they want: Beckett. The word has gone out and its clear she has the support and the labour leadership want or have made it clear she will get the nod. Hope its wrong but its my belief she is a shoe in. God help us. This was one position that should have been above party politics but yet again another tradition usurped by this government.

  6. 6

    Beckett is

    a) A liar
    b) A thief
    c) A fucking useless Minister, who was responsible for bankrupting many farmers.

    Hunt

  7. 7
    Castor Troy says:

    from England to Soviet McBritain of the EUSSR in 12 years.

    Vote Labour and get what you DESERVE, we no longer deserve a country.

    • 21
      W.W. says:

      Even the old Politburo mob would blush at some of the stunts these fuckers have pulled over the last twelve years.

      W.W.

      • 250
        I love F1 hate the EEU says:

        “Soviet McBritain of the EUSSR”

        Brilliant!! Could not have stated it better.

        MBOTUSSR
        pronounced….

        EMBOTTOSSER

    • 261
      barefootcontessa says:

      It’s going to be a put up job as per usual.

    • 330
      Sylvia's Mother: says:

      Labour the party of the RED FLAG. The Red Flag is still flying and will probably get re-introduced at their next conference particularly with the likes of Kinnock in attendance.

  8. 9
    subway says:

    “touching cloth” – a phrase that should be used more often

  9. 10
    Anonymous says:

    How the fuck can Labour be so irredeemably stupid as to be whipping Beckett after that almighty fuck-up car crash of hers on Question Time ??

    Have they taken leave of their senses – or is this just part of Gordon’s ‘Scorched Earth’ policy ?

    • 17
      R.McGeddon says:

      Hay ! Whipping Beckett will ensure that the old nag romps comfortably past the winning post to ensure that Labour’s evil hegemony goes on and on.
      There’s no end in sight for Brown’s ‘old boy’s club’.
      Same old Labour Stasi stasis.

      • 32
        Dippy ness says:

        But it has changed, we have Blair back in power albeit via Mandy.

        • 122
          Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

          I don’t understand this talk of Blair becoming el presidente. He is a war criminal in all but trial and some europeans are miffed that his Jack Straw let Pinochet go. Having Blair ar president would break europe which I say is good but why would any european want Blair anyway? Meanwhile, Labour can still do more damage until the GE so the next serious contender for government will have to run on a platform of law reversal and out of europe. I smell something fishy going on because it is too incredible although true. There is too much riding on the next GE so maybe we ain’t gonna get one?

        • 254
          Learning the UK language and I not before Eeee by gum says:

          Having Blair as president would break europe

          Gets my vote!!!!
          oh and every one in my council house (and loft) all 57 of us.
          Sorri no understood where my postal vote go, can we triple entry and then they lose the electoral register wot like they did in that scotch place glenclothes or sumfink?

    • 195
      h says:

      Plato has her on Youtube singing ‘House of the Rising Sun’ (about 13 seconds too long) – but by comparison, it makes my rendition of ‘Leaving on a Jet Plane’ sound good!

  10. 13
    Fells Point barfly says:

    A one horse race? Christ on a bike, even Liebore MUST be able to do better than this. No way can another NuLab MP be speaker. Whatever happened to the Speaker switching between the major parties?
    The political system in the DisUnited Kingdom must be well and truly broken. Do these idiots really not get it, or are they seriously determined to screw it up to the maximum possible.
    I can only assume that they have decided that, as we will be all under the thumb of Brussels very soon, none of it matters a damn. Thank God I have only limited time left on this planet.

    • 43
      Dippy ness says:

      Have faith sir, look at what’s happened in Iran? They can’t keep us down much longer….We is British, stiff upper lip and all that…….(personally I’m emigrating next year)

      • 45
        incandescent_with_rage says:

        We’re emigrating too.

        • 61
          Dippy ness says:

          So is everyone I know…who the hell is going to be left in this Country? Errrr….Sorry silly question.

        • 82
          incandescent_with_rage says:

          There won’t be as many taxpayers, that’s for sure.

        • 200
          snafu says:

          Us too. Sweden may be in the EU but it is a damn sight more civilised than the sad remnants of Britain.

      • 271
        Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

        Well, it looks unfortunately as though the Ayatollahs have put a lid on dissent at the moment. Same goes for Iran.

        If ZaNuLab were to con there way back into what passes for Govt at the next election, I shall be leaving the UK to drown in its own excrement!

        • 273
          Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

          Damn! I meant “their way” of course – and I went to a grammar school too! Shame on me!

      • 342
        AKs are in this year says:

        Unfortunately, too many of us are trapped here by personal or family circumstances. Age and decrepitude in my case. I hope I’m around long enough to see these criminally corrupt parasites consigned to history.

    • 332
      Sylvia's Mother: says:

      FPB: Whatever happened to the Speaker switching between the major parties? This was another tradition/convention stamped out by labour back in 1997. It looks like 3 labour MP’s in a row and even worse likely to be a government minister that has served pretty much throughout that period. This is not just wrong but wrong, wrong wrong. You need a backbencher with gravitas who can be bi-partisan and I can understand that right now that is a problem and considering there are 650 to choose from tells you the state of (HOC) politics in our country right now. It is pity someone like Betty Boothroyd does not exist she was excellent.

  11. 14
    Man on the Clapham Omnibus says:

    Götterdämmerung

    • 69
      Finnpog says:

      You be careful there.

      Demonstrating a classical education like that – the ZNL education ministry will have you taken out a re-educated.

      • 329
        artboyusa says:

        Yeah, watch it mate. What are you, a toff or summink?There’s no place for that kind of show off ‘learning’ in modern Britain. Its true that under Labour a mere 40% of school leavers can now neither read nor write (whoops! sorry about that ostentatious ‘nor’) but we can and must do better. Once Gorgon leaves office and goes into education, as he threatens, we should achieve 100% illiteracy in record time. Move over, Somalia – here we come!

  12. 15
    Osama the nazarene says:

    They may be whipping Mrs Bucket into the speaker’s chair but how much authority do they have? Its a secret ballot!

    • 29
      Dippy ness says:

      Come of it, no way would Labour allow that!

    • 41

      Indeed, I suspect the real test shall come when that first ballot is read out.

      I do sincerely hope they ignore the whip.

    • 109
      Rt Hon. Egbert Thumbtwiddle says:

      It would not surprise me to find all the ballot papers numbered with UV ink or some other devious trick.

      • 155
        Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

        Microdots?

        • 176
          P.C. Filth says:

          ….. go down well with a decent Chardonnay, sir. I once saw God on a microdot so, disbelievingly, I dropped another and I went into a nightmarish, Boschistic, unreal version of depravity on scale incomprehendable to the human brain, sir. My dealer texted me and told me he’d accidently sold me some of his gran’s arthritis tablets, said he’d give me 30 quid back. I came down with a bump, proceeded to ploish my tuncheon and was back on duty in time to shake Barry’s hand, sir. Over.

        • 182
          P.C. Filth says:

          My spellcheck is fucked, sir. Over and out.

        • 243
          Trough Mixture says:

          Know what you mean Constable. Saw an elderly chap’s nose inflate to the size of a prizewinning Watermelon in the Lord’s Tavern years ago. Deeply affected by it. Couldn’t keep my aduki beans on the fork for a week. Remember what the Dormouse said and here’s a tenner for the benevolent fund.

    • 334
      Sylvia's Mother: says:

      I have the answer lets redact the votes for Beckett. Big black marker over her box and also her face.

  13. 18
    Smart Weapon says:

    Margaret Beckett only has a majority of five thousand in her Derby South seat.

    2005 election results:

    Labour : Margaret Beckett : 19,683
    Liberal Democrat : Lucy Care : 14,026
    Conservative : David Brackenbury : 8,211
    UK Independence : David Black : 845
    Veritas : Frank Leeming : 608

    That would seem a relatively easy seat for an independent to target. All we need is a celeb to declare they will stand against her to get the ball rolling.

    • 60
      Steve Expat says:

      So all it should need is for Clegg to ignore the unwritten “Convention” of not standing someone against the Speaker, and the Tories to follow the Convention” and campaign for the LD candidate.

      Even on the last election results, the LD and Tory vote combined would win the seat.

      It’s not as if Liebour have been great supporters of these unwritten rules when it’s suited them in the past, is it?

    • 83
      Mark Thompsom says:

      Esther Rantzen where are you when we need a trougher removed?

      • 98
        A dentist notes says:

        She’s as bad. Did you see her god awful performance on QT last week. Condescending doesn’t come close. Silly old battleaxe. Like Beckett her teeth are fucked too.

      • 108
        Anonymous says:

        that buck teethed fuckwit can go get stuffed after her ludicrous racist abuse of the people of Northern Ireland on QT.

      • 110
        • 113
          Dr. Nick Riviera says:

          She needs botoxing fast.

        • 138
          Dippy ness says:

          No. euthanasia.
          Here’s a bright idea, we are a load of Roman Catholic gypsies and would like to go and live in a Country with State Benefits….now where in Britain should we settle….I know…Protestant Northern Ireland…dhaaaa!
          Funny, they suddenly decided to go back home…me wonders why!

        • 253
          Dick the Prick says:

          What the fuck were a 100 pikies doing in NI anyway? And this dizzy bitch’s daughter is living in some fucked up Kaballah refuge. She should just fuck the fuck off.

    • 86
      Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

      The numbers here are very interesting – seem to suggest that if Tories and Lib Dems band together they can get her out.

      Just the sort of humiliation McTwat and his bond of conmen and criminals need.

      • 105
        Troughtastic says:

        Margaret Beckett is most definitely NOT going to attract the same level of support in the next election as she did in 2005.

        You forget the power of local newspapers have in these circumstances. It isn’t blogs that politicians fear, it is what is written about them in local newspapers by local people, and Margaret Becket appears to be no more popular in her local constituency newspapers that Jim Devine is in his.

        She is an old nag waiting to fall at the first fence.

        • 112
          Thickie ButtStuffer says:

          I’ve seen her teeth. Horses with teeth like that go to the knacker’s yard…

        • 143
          Dippy ness says:

          PLEASE….NOT a nag, that term refers to a horse, apart from the fact I love horses, they also happen to be beautiful and have half a brain.
          Refer instsead to her being a worm, don’t like them, or a maggot, a leech…NOT nice animals!

        • 150
          Anonymous says:

          local newspapers need to be fed. Normally its only MPs themselves who do the feeding. Needs organisation and coordination from the dedicated. Is anyone prepared to organise?

        • 152
          Anonymous says:

          I think Julie Kirkbride should be Speaker.

    • 252
      Bring back Betty ... says:

      Given the Speaker is supposed to sever all ties with a former party,is it really credible that she as a former leader of the Labour Party (after John Smith’s death) could convince Mps and the public that she’d done that?

    • 277
      Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

      That is the best approach if horse face does indeed become Speaker – get her kicked out at the election. That would put the cat among the pigeons & nobble the old nag!

    • 336
      Sylvia's Mother: says:

      You have something there it might even be worth moving house. Any good caravan parks in Derby South!

  14. 31
    Ewanme says:

    Does anyone givva flyin fuck , hun ???

    Ain’t they all tossers ???

    Yeah , they are , Ewa .

    Sit back an enjoy the ride .

    E x .

  15. 33
    oldrightie says:

    How many more times, she was always a horseshoe in by The Labour dictatorship.

    http://oldrightie.blogspot.com/2009/06/new-speaker-at-her-first-pmqs.html

  16. 40
    Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

    Beckett is a highly tainted member of Brown’s rotten administration. If Labour are whipping people to vote for her it shows they have lost all respect for parliament.

    If she gets in Cameron and Clegg should make very clear that

    a) she will be robustly challenged in her seat at the next election – and depending on who was runner-up last time round I would suggest either the Tories or Lib Dems drop out and campaign for the other to consolidate the opposition

    b) and should she still get in then she will be challenged as Speaker immediately after the election

    Labour are totally arrogant Hunts who need the severe shock of heavy electoral defeat to bring them back to reality

    • 46
      incandescent_with_rage says:

      It’s almost as if they’re on a self-destruct course. They know how we all feel and yet they still choose to piss us off even more.

    • 48
      Dippy ness says:

      Actually you are right. Which is why Widders should have been the obvious choice. She’s the peoples choice, which of course is why no one will vote for her. Can’t have us mere mortals have a say in how we are Governed.

    • 51
      Piss artists says:

      They pissed in our faces with the McBride Smears
      They pissed in our faces with expenses scams
      Now they want to piss in our faces by installing Beckett

    • 134
      Anonymous says:

      UKIP could do the job of ousting Beckett from her constituency if the Labour machine makes her Speaker. The Conservatives and the Lib Dems could politely stand back in accordance with the old convention in the Speaker’s seat and could enjoy the show.

    • 337
      Sylvia's Mother: says:

      Hear, Hear Lady Virgin!

  17. 49
    Anonymous says:

    Do your homework, whoever is chosen as Speaker does not need to fight the next election so that point is totally redundant.

    • 58
      Smart Weapon says:

      That’s only by agreement with the other main parties. They still have to be voted for in an election:

      2005 election:

      Speaker Michael Martin 15,153
      Scottish National Party John McLaughlin 5019
      Socialist Labour Doris Kelly 4,036

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow_North_East_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

    • 59
      Anonymous says:

      Who says? Think again!

    • 66
      Steve Expat says:

      The main parties’ not standing a candidate against the Speaker is an unwritten rule, one of the many “Conventions” that Liebour have been so keen to ignore when it’s suited them in the past.

      A taste of their own medicine coming up?

      • 90
        incandescent_with_rage says:

        If Beckett gets the job, we’ll have had 3 Labour Speakers in a row.

        I always thought it used to be rotated between the main parties.

        • 107
          Under a flower pot at the bottom of the garden until the GE says:

          That’s tradition – and therefore elitest and has no place in New Britain.

          These cnuts have no respect for anything from before year zero.

        • 221
          Dual Citizen says:

          Nope, tradition is that the speaker is from the governing party. It was those way too nice Tories in 1992 that broke the tradition and elected Betty. Of course they then expected Labour to be nice and return the favor.

          They been screwed!

    • 205
      Anonymous says:

      It is you who needs to do the homework. The Speaker stands for re-election at each general election, although generally not opposed by the main parties.

    • 264
      barefootcontessa says:

      And that’s why newlabour need to get a newlabour speaker into the HoC. They know they are finished at the next election.

    • 340
      Sylvia's Mother: says:

      There would not be agreement to that. Beckett with only around a 5000 majority it cannot be considered a safe seat. In the next GE no seat given the current circumstances could be considered safe IMO.

  18. 52
    Anonymous says:

    If we end up with Young it would then mean the House, the Country and London run by old Etonians, Game, set and MATCH!

  19. 57
    Anon says:

    They can all piss off.

    • 92
      incandescent_with_rage says:

      That’s what a lot of Brits are doing.

      • 102
        Lady Virginia Droit de Seigneur says:

        And that’s what I will be doing as soon as I stop work. Let’s face it Cameron and his band of wishy washy Boden / Fat Face band of upper Middle Class twits might be better than Brown’s angry band of class war turds (and turd burglars) but do you really trust souffles like George Osborne and David Willetts to turn the country round?

      • 222
        Dual Citizen says:

        Yup. I pissed off to America and am now pissing myself laughing at you lot that stayed.

    • 156
      Skier says:

      Off piss(te)

  20. 63
    Auntie Flo' says:

    If Labour think the public can be deluded into believing that the woman who claimed over a £1000 smackers for geraniums is either fit to be speaker or the people’s choice to reform expenses, they can think again.

    The people won’t stand for Beckett of the £1000 quid geraniums, we want Widdy!

    • 168
      Dippy ness says:

      We should also remember the fuck up she made at DEFRA. Gountry people have long memories
      Might be an idea to tell her to visit a Livestock farmer, photo ops with “Friendly Bull” …..we missed Blunket, pracrice run you see.

      • 275
        Man on the Clapham omnibus says:

        Lady MP attending the auction with a farmer bidding for a prize stud bull.

        The auctioneer on offering the bull for bid said that offered animal had serviced over 400 heifers during the last season.

        Lady MP, overawed, remarked “in human terms that’s the equivalent of having sex more than twice per night for a year”.

        Pissed off farmer told her “if you think that is so fantastic why don’t you ask the auctioneer if it was with the same bloody cow?”

    • 268
      barefootcontessa says:

      Widdecombe has her own expenses faux pas.

  21. 67
    Anonymous says:

    Why not Gordon Brown for Speaker?

    • 72
      Steve Expat says:

      The lunatic running the asylum?

      • 88
        Anonymous says:

        exactly, and he could continue as PM as he’s clearly the best mentalist for that job. Wouldn’t be unfiar at all.

        • 171
          Dippy ness says:

          Oh please…..I’d not be able to watch political programs again
          NOT FAIR.

        • 248
          Trough Mixture says:

          Points of Order would take a fortnight to resolve as he argued with himselves.

          Remember ‘God’s School Report’?

    • 74
      incandescent_with_rage says:

      It’d take him all week to get a sentence out. He won’t have a script in front of him then.

  22. 75
    Anonymous says:

    Hmmmmm…

    But maybe Mrs Dale will be able to ‘shift the market’ with his desperation for a win for Alan Haslehurst. Or the Political Betting illuminati have it right with their insight predicting a George Younger win…

  23. 77
    caesars wife says:

    beckett i doubt will be a good speaker , partly because when you look at her record , its one of being posh labour mp , nothing dramatic . She would probebly tidy up fees office , put fresh flowers in the vase and make sure historical garments are pressed and use fabreez.

    will comment when results in , despairing at lack of toothed radical , we will know what parliment wants when the votes in , i know its a secret ballot but the labour majority should be visible if its played .

    i wonder if michael martins quote from robbie burns was a hint to gordon ??

  24. 78
    chrisg says:

    Praise be to God that I don’t wake up and find Beckett has been chosen as Speaker….

    • 93
      incandescent_with_rage says:

      She can always get her park railings done on expenses.

    • 136
      Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

      She’d look fetching in a wig and a nose bag

      • 270
        barefootcontessa says:

        Well, she needs a new set of clothes, and she would get them. A large black dress and some sort of a crook to put in her hand. Then she’ll have a huge hike in her pay and pensions, so no need to sneak geraniums through her expenses, and she may be able to stretch to a 22ft caravan.

      • 344
        Sylvia's Mother: says:

        I doubt the bridle will fit.

    • 285
      Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

      I don’t think Beckett will be Speaker now after this – surely even Labour MPs have more sense than that! Don’t they???

      • 346
        Sylvia's Mother: says:

        A pre-requisite of being a Labour MP is to have NO sense. Enough said.

  25. 79
    Steve Expat says:

    FYI, the electoral process, from http://news.parliament.uk/2009/06/mps-elect-speaker-using-new-system/

    Voters are given a list of candidates and place an “X” next to the candidate of their choice. If a candidate receives more than 50 per cent of the votes, the Question is put to the House that he or she takes the Chair as Speaker. If no candidate does so, the candidate with the fewest votes, and those with less than 5 per cent of the vote, are eliminated. In addition, any candidate may withdraw within 10 minutes of the announcement of the result of a ballot. The House then votes again on the reduced slate of candidates and continues doing so until one candidate receives more than half the votes.

  26. 84
    Anonymous says:

    Who is the other Tory apart from Lewis backing wee Berc?

  27. 85
    Anonymous says:

    Decent man? Low expenses? No chance! He’s the odd man out–well, at least one of the very few

  28. 87
    Aethelred says:

    £11,000 for gardening expenses – Perhaps the time has come when the nulab backbenchers will grow something approaching a backbone and reject the corrupt troughing lefty bitch.

    Then again, probably not.

  29. 97
    Basil Brush says:

    Will she get the travellers and Caravan Club votes too?

    Face like a horse trough.

    • 99
      incandescent_with_rage says:

      Well we’ve probably paid for her CC membership anyway.

    • 123
      Rt Hon. Egbert Thumbtwiddle says:

      “Face like a horse trough.”

      Don’t be silly – anyone making horse troughs like that would make the horses throw up.

    • 128
      Dr Feelgood says:

      If the caravan’s rockin’, don’t come knockin’

    • 289
      Mavis Vixen says:

      A troughing horse? Only MPs, civil servants and members of the House of Lords are allowed to do that. It’s within the rules.

  30. 100
    Under a flower pot at the bottom of the garden until the GE says:

    Sounds like ZaNu Lie-baaaaaa’s interpretation of a free vote by secret ballot. Why not go the whole ‘hog’ and use postal voting – that really will guarentee the ‘correct’ result.

  31. 103
    Anonymous says:

    To vote for Beckett who is a bloody trougher of the highest order shows the utter contempt the bastard MPs have for the public.

    Roll on the bloody revolution.

  32. 111
    James says:

    Just goes to show that Labour have learned nothing from the fiasco of the last few weeks. Still manipulating things to suit their own agenda and don’t care a damn about whether the electorate trust them or not. They need to be purged from parliament.

    • 131
      Uncle Fester says:

      They have heard nothing, they have read nothing, and they have seen nothing.

      Even microbes trapped in rocks know more about Britain than its Government.

    • 351
      Sylvia's Mother: says:

      Labour have learned nothing from the fiasco of the last few weeks cos its all within the rules dear.

  33. 117
    Steve Expat says:

    DT are running this story as the front-page lead tomorrow – keeping up the embarrasment!!

    Another Guido scoop!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5596840/Brown-in-row-over-secret-bid-to-install-Beckett-as-Speaker.html

    • 137
      Dr Feelgood says:

      Typical New Labour/Brownite shenanigans – claim to be pure as the driven snow, while shovelling a load of shit in secret. The thing is, they’re not very good at it: we known what they’re doing, but they don’t think that we know.

      If there is another Labour Speaker (or Bercow) selected, then following the GE the Tories should have a vote of no confidence in the Speaker and run the contest properly.

  34. 121
    Gigits says:

    Fucking hell. Beckett as Speaker.

    It’s like a bad joke. Get rid of Martin and vote in his female (just) equivalent.

    This is the end of Democracy.

    • 126
      Slogans says:

      I am tempted to call Britain a banana republic, but that’s an insult to banana republics everywhere.

      • 145
        Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

        Let’s hust call it Britain 2009, we all know what that stands for.

      • 158
        13eastie says:

        Re. “banana republic”, the suggestion that these clowns, intent on destroying extra-urban Britain, would enable the UK to depend in any way on its agriculture is somewhat risible!

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    Throbber says:

    They don’t get it do they? We hold them in contempt. Whipping for Beckett says it all – they are all corrupt.
    We hate them all, hold them in complete contempt and will see the back of them.
    Fraudulent cheats each and every one of them,
    Death by gruesome means is too good for them.
    Be off with you all.
    Scumsuckers.

    • 161
      Anonymous says:

      Right. they don`t get it! Cameron is as ba as Brown. When is that famous £140,000 being paid back by MacKay as promised by Cameron – and what about MacKays seedy wife he notorious Kirkbride woman? There is a giant cover-up and they are all hoping it will just blow over. Beckett continues the problem because she is part of it.

    • 166
      Anonymous says:

      they sure as hell don`t get it.

  37. 141
    Ratsniffer says:

    How little they have learned.

    Or maybe they are just a bunch of selfish, troughing bastards who want to vote for a candidate to suit their own agendas, rather than for someone who will clean the place up.

  38. 142
    Tony Blair says:

    I’m an honest sort of guy.

  39. 144
    Lying Evasive Fucking Hoon says:

  40. 147
    Praguetory says:

    Labour MPs are on tilt. It’s hilarious.

  41. 154
    subrosa says:

    I do agree with you Guido. The speech Shepherd gave to the nearly empty chamber at the Dissolution of Parliament debate the other week, was exceptional.
    http://tiny.cc/r1k9P

  42. 163

    British passports to be given to a record 220,000 migrants this year

    In exchange for their votes.
    White working class your votes are worthless, now, you may as well continue to vote beenpee.

  43. 164
    Corrupt Labour says:

    Vote labour, vote for the destruction of the united kingdom.

    • 170
      going down the pan says:

      so true they will leave it in such a state that only the EU will take it on ! this “shiter than shite” party have broken every rule in the book to sell us down the river to the EU. absolute fucking scum !

  44. 165
    tony blair says:

    it is time to close parliament………..

    get rid of ALL of them…..

    these people deserve nothing-except contempt!

  45. 167
    Corrupt Labour says:

    Brown spins to save his career. or else he will become a teacher. S o what a cv, nevr a proper job. Always paid by the taxpayer. Never had a revenue earning job ih his life, just like most MP’s.

    • 274

      Can you imagine the sad deluded Hunt trying to teach in a nice inner city comprehensive? He wouldn’t last a term.

      The Penguin

      • 335
        artboyusa says:

        I can see him crying in the Staff Room when he thinks no one’s watching, his shoulders heaving with silent sobs…I can hear the cruel nicknames invented by his students: ‘Mr Snotty’, ‘Mr Mumbler’, ‘Cyclops’, ‘Mr Dirty Hair’….some smartass student holding out a dripping bogey to him: “Oi, Mr Brown: I brung you yer lunch, sir harharharharhar!”

      • 353
        Breaking News - Brown skewered says:

        There would be a terrible accident in the metal work classroom and a very high powered drill……..

    • 354
      Sylvia's Mother: says:

      Brown thinks he could become a teacher. ROFLMAO.

      • 370
        Tom Hanks says:

        Brown was a teacher a Philips but is he one shocking bad author. Almost as bad as Brown is a PM.

  46. 169
    Corrupt Labour says:

    Carry on troughing labour. Carry on bullying and lying brown!

    • 183
      going down the pan says:

      the scumsucking pond life Mcmental has NO morals what so ever he lie’s and cheats and spin’s at every turn to get his way .unelected, unintrested in what public opinion think’s unquestionably the most unpopular PM in our history .

  47. 173
    Corrupt Labour says:

    brown worst Pm ever. Wants to become a teacher. Teach our kids how to lie and bully and spin. dont bother with honesty. corrupt to the core

    • 187
      Concerned of what was the UK says:

      Don’t forget that Labour have corrupted what teachers are allowed to teach and do in schools.

      Labour have enforced indoctrination in UK schools rather than education.

      • 374
        Tony B Liar on Education Education Education says:

        I meant to say

        Indoctrination, Indoctrination, Indoctrination

    • 291
      Pledge cards for the thickies says:

      The three Rs according to Professor Brown:

      Run dodgy elections
      Rip up the rule books
      Ragged economy
      Roger the cabin boy
      Re-election at any cost
      ‘Rithmetic not needed in either the Treasury or Fees Office.

      • 352
        Everyone's an A Grade! says:

        Went to a Midlands University with my son this weekend for an Open Day – such is the dumming down of Britain by Brown and his thugs in the past 12 yrs – the Admissions Tutor says that they have 1,000 applicants for the course (Dentistry) and so many of them get 3 A’s at A level that they cannot select on grades in ANY way whatsoever.

        One day soon,every student in every college will have 3 A’s.

        Funny though – MP’s do not have to sit ANY kind of test EVER in their job – of course they are only running UK PLC,so it does not really matter!

        • 355
          Sylvia's Mother: says:

          I appreciate I am old but A’s really did mean something 20 -25 years ago. It seems that A’s are much more commonplace these days and must point to a dumming down of the mark overall. 50% of kids going on to University might sound good but devalues education in general we need more apprenticeships and education that leads to a proper job. This government has sold our young down the river, just look at those graduates hitting the dole queue. The figures are astounding and leaves you wondering what future they have with NO jobs or future available to them.

  48. 177
    anon126 says:

    what type of people are the labour MP’s if they are stupid enough to allow themselves to be whipped by the gov to vote for a person who is there to protect THEIR rights!!! Like I said in my blog last week Beckett should not be able to stand as speaker…she was a leader of a party, but more than that, she has some seriously iffy expense claims. If she gets in it will show how the MPs don’t understand the public’s rage…..a dangerous thing to do.

    the only good thing is that Bercow would be the loser.

  49. 178
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    Corrupt Labour says:

    labour MP’s really dont care what you think. Your entitlement to democracy is only once in five years.

    The only time they will sit up and pay attention to what you are saying is when you vote them out at the next general election. Vote for any one or any thing, even a pile of shit, but dont vote labour.

    • 185
      Concerned of what was the UK says:

      Yes look at the Guardian on-line of 21st June

      Video shows surveillance protesters bundled to ground by police

      • Women arrested for challenging officer with no badge number
      • Footage shows arresting officers binding Fit Watch pair’s feet
      • IPCC to receive video as concerns grow over police tactics

      Corrupt Government, corrupt, brutal and Police Force carrying out illegal arrests

      • 197
        2 + 2 = 5 says:

        The British police force is now completely out of control, encouraged by Labour’s disinterest in anything but our money.

    • 188
      going down the pan says:

      if you vote liebore you are voting for a pile of shit !

      • 201
        Corrupt Labour says:

        voting for shit is acceptable. voting for labour is not!

        • 357
          Sylvia's Mother: says:

          Crikey shit is starting to smell good. Labour short for low life scum. Anyone who even considers voting Labour needs the head examined. Either that or they do not have a head.

  51. 181
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    Stephen King says:

    She scares me

  53. 186
    Corrupt Labour says:

    Dracula drinks the blood from the blood bank leaving none for the patients. But dracula supported by the vampires, gets elected as the only person who can save the hospital.

  54. 189
    220,000 New Labour Voters Imported says:

    The number of British passports given to migrants is set to hit a record 220,000 this year.

    In the first three months of 2009, 54,615 citizenship applications were approved – up 57 per cent on the same period in 2008.

    At that rate, the number receiving passports – and with them the right to full benefits – this year will smash the record of 164,540 set in 2007.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1194593/British-passports-given-record-220-000-migrants-year.html

    • 286
      Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

      ZaNuLabour have totally fecked England up the posterior. Why did so many of our idiot fellow countrymen vote for them? The writing was on the wall from the start!

      We can say “Labour Out” as much as we like, but it is too fecking late to save the country! We are damned!

    • 309
      Indigo says:

      Yes, immigrant British nationals are much easier to intimidate. Vote NuLabour or we’ll rescind your permission to stay. I’ve seen some of this locally; immigrant Brits don’t feel “entitled” enough to join in local protests against a proposed badly planned new development. I don’t blame them at all: I know that their fear is well-founded.

    • 347
      Compare UK with USA says:

      Would be interesting to compare these figures with USA – much bigger country etc – what is their annual admissions rate?

    • 358
      Sylvia's Mother: says:

      I am not and never have been a BNP supporter but when you see stuff like this its no wonder they are getting support. Dangerous times indeed.

  55. 190

    Diane Abbott would be good. The first black speaker. She’s Labour but independent, humourous and strong.

    • 204
      Court of Public Opinion says:

      She’s a luvvy. Useless, patronising and only fit to be a fag hag.

    • 223
      Call me Infidel says:

      She’s also a hypocrite who sent her kids to a private school if memory serves.

    • 314
      Anonymous says:

      And what was it she said about the poor murdered policeman in Tottenham that night? Remind me …

      • 373
        Charles Flaccidwidger says:

        If I recall, she also said that all white people are racist. Not a particularly good reference for the post of speaker.

        • 375
          Diane Abbot for speaker? says:

          After university she became a fast-tracked civil servant (1976 to 1978), and then a ‘Race Relations Officer’ at the National Council for Civil Liberties from 1978 to 1980. Amongst her colleagues at NCCL were Harriet Harman, Patricia Hewitt and Paul Boateng, all later becoming Labour Cabinet Ministers.

          Finnish people tend to have dark hair like Lola Odusoga, the winner of the 1996 Miss Finland.

          They found she had failed to declare earnings £17,300 on the Register of Members Interests which had been received for appearances on the television programme “This Week”. The Committee upheld the complaint and forced Abbott to apologise to the House.

          The controversy caused by her poor morals and leadership by example still haunts her till date.

          What would have happened to a Tory MP who misused indices to rubbish Nigeria?

  56. 191
    Corrupt Labour says:

    Power corrupts and absolute power along with labour, corrupts absolutely.

    We are up against the likes of what we have never seen before in this country.

    A totally corrupt, lying totalitarian government like they had in the soviet union.

    Vote labour,
    vote a federal europe
    vote for control of the city of london to be goven to the french and germans.
    vote for no referendum on the lisbon treaty even though it was promised.
    Hw long will it be before the EU sends troops to act agaibst states that decide they want to leave the european state?
    Did you say that could never happen?

  57. 193
    Canary Wharf Rat says:

    I’m surprised she wasn’t chosen as a stalking horse in the recent uprising….

    • 295
      Honest Harry (1/3 favourite, 5/2 the field) says:

      Didn’t she fall at Epsom recently? I thought she had been put down.

  58. 194
    Corrupt Labour says:

    Sty news is that the news for the pigs party? you know those that just carry on troughing, just like that corrupt stalinest labour party. The question is , if they had to would they kill 26 million of their own country just like stakin did?

    UNDOUBTABLY YES THEY WOULD. THEY SURELY HATE THE ENGLISH

    • 216
      Derek D'Rapier says:

      Is there any point telling you that these Jospeh Starling stories are for the birds?
      More hate please, that’s the way to do it . . .
      pretty polly pretty polly
      that’s the way to do it . . .
      pretty polly pretty polly

      • 258
        Corrupt Labour says:

        Just another parroting labour supporter, thats the way to do it! Every one knows we were sold a dead parrott any way. Baa Baa sheep sheep, just do what mcbrown says of he’ll throw a stapler at you, that’s what we need more violence…. baa baa baa labour labour labour

  59. 196
    Corrupt Labour says:

    carry on spending now, just let your kids and their kids pay it back, simples. Why worry

  60. 198
    Corrupt Labour says:

    Labour taking lessons now on how to win elections and suppress dissent.

    Iran!

  61. 199
    Ugly beccy says:

    The RSPCA have stated they cant put the old nag out to grass as she frightens the other horses. We are stuck with nightMARE. Even Michael Portillo is stalking up on sugar cubes ready to bribe the old nag. On the plus side her husband is buying an old fashioned gypsy caravan to save on petrol

  62. 203
    Albert Steptoe who lives in a stable says:

    I FANCY HER

  63. 206
    Mrs Trellis says:

    If the Labour Whips get a Labour speaker elected for the third time in a row, the Tories should refuse the convention of not putting a candidate up against the Speaker in the general election. Beckett is a disgrace.

  64. 207
    The horse whisper says:

    In a hushed tone ‘fuck off beckett’

  65. 210
    Daz says:

    If Beckett wins, I’ll be furious, I want to have the chance to vote her out of Derby South. If the Tories and Lib-dems won’t stand we need a decent independent candidate to get her out.

    What happens if the sitting speaker doesn’t get voted back in at the election?

  66. 211
    Mr rEd Rum says:

    Mmmm Beckett is extremely good looking if you put the blinkers on.

    • 214
      St George Weeps says:

      Pure distraction. The real effort is explained by, Mr Hannan, here.

      How did the UK get into the clutches of such evil ?

      “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
      ~~Marcus Tullius Cicero 58BC

  67. 213
    The biggest assassination attempt since JFK says:

    How can we make it look like suicide

  68. 215
    Concerned of what was the UK says:

    This corrupt UK government and their MPs just don’t fucking get it do they?

    We don’t want the next speaker selected by Gordon Brown.

    Fuck off Gordon. You are a control freak.

    Go teach penguins. Yes in the USA if you like and if you can find any penguins there.

    Let the Commons have a free vote.

  69. 217
    Concerned of what was the UK says:

    This is what the UK has become:

    Take down your missing cat posters or face a £75 fine, council threatens pensioner

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1194619/Take-missing-cat-posters-face-75-fine-council-threatens-pensioner.html

    Fine OAPs who have lost their cats.

    Fucking Hunts. Fuck off.

  70. 220
    Parish Councillor says:

    The populus are enduring fatigue with all this nonsense over MP’s expenses. They are switching off big time.

    Camerhoon has totally failed to take the initiative. Brown is a dead man walking. The Libs have missed their chance too.

    Just what all the political parties want. Just wait for the income tax to go up next year. You ain’t seen nothing yet.

    There will be serious unhappiness.

  71. 225
    Why Did They Publish? says:

    I don’t understand why the Telegraph published the expenses data.

    This question has been quietly nagging away me for more than a month now.

    The Telegraph is one of Britain’s oldest newspapers, it is establishment to its core, yet it has just printed every single receipt by every MP going back five years. It has made hundreds of political enemies at a stroke, and enraged the public.

    What is their motive for doing that?

    * Money? I don’t believe the gains justified the means in this case.

    * To bring the Government down? All parties have been tainted by this scandal.

    * Public duty? No way.

    So why did they publish? I just don’t get it.

    • 228
      Concerned of what was the UK says:

      Watch

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1405535197028538552

      Answer is Common Purpose. Bring down the UK state, bring in the EU state.

      • 230
        Why Did They Publish? says:

        I disagree.

        Bringing Parliament to it’s knees is not going to make British people feel any more sympathetic to the EU, in fact, if anything, quite the reverse seems to have happened. If this was all part of some Common Purpose plot, it has failed spectacularly.

        There are questions to be asked though, and these are questions that are asked almost daily on this blog:

        What the hell happened to Britain?

        As little as twenty years ago Britain was a relatively relaxed modern democracy where people got on with their lives. It has now turned into a kafkaesque nightmare state where a warden, an inspector, an officer, a bailiff, a ticket, a red letter, a fine or a court case seems to be an almost daily threat for everyone.

        What happened to the people of Britain?

        Why is half the population now seemingly in engaged in tracking, tracing, spying on or fining the other half? Why is everyone so torpid about, well, everything?

        What on has happened to the NHS, Police, Civil Service, Councils, Banks, and large businesses?

        Within recent memory you could phone someone at a large business or organisation and find an answer to a simple query or get an appointment almost immediately. That is now entirely impossible. Big businesses don’t function at all. The only businesses that seem to work any more are one man bands with mobile phones. Britain just doesn’t work any more.

        How was a nation lulled into accepting the above?

        Who managed to put an entire nation to sleep so that the enormous changes that have happened to our way of life have gone almost unnoticed and unprotested?

        I don’t believe in Common Purpose, but when you see a nation changed so dramatically in such a short period of time with almost no complaint from the inhabitants, you do have to ask yourself: WHO, and WHY?

        • 288
          Carl's Chinns says:

          fluoride in th water – works for the notoriously alert Brummies.

        • 294
          Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

          Agree with your comment – how did we sleepwalk into this disaster?
          Bromide in the water?
          Time to take to the streets has arrived?
          Where is everybody?

  72. 229
    Joan of Archers says:

    The Lisbon Treaty is unlawful and those MPs who voted for it have committed treason. Treason is still a crime in the UK for which hanging it possible.

    http://www.darklake-synectics.co.uk/ithilien-web/the_great_treason.html

    • 235
      Why Did They Publish? says:

      You make some valid points on your website. I am sure that many British people would agree with you about acts of treason having been committed against this nation.

      The point, surely though, is this; if the police or the judiciary do not agree with you about the charge of treason, will not take up your case, or worse are complicit in the treason, what avenue does the ordinary citizen have to remedy the situation?

      Certainly democracy will not help you. It has shown itself to be a complete sham recently, and it will show itself to be a complete sham again later today when the Speaker is elected.

    • 247
      Call me Infidel says:

      I think you will find that the Human Rights Act abolished the death penalty for all cases including treason.

      • 384
        Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

        Lisbon brings it back hidden but it’s there, for treason. (That’s treason against the EU of course)

  73. 232
    Cassandra King says:

    The very last thing the political parasite class wants is an honest and independent MP in the speakers chair, they want/require/need a corrupted crooked insider who is in hock to the spivs,traitors and charletons that infest westminster.

  74. 233
    Dr Bunhead says:

    As Brown would not take an early morning shit without advice from a Spin Doctor, you have to assume that his decision to appear on the BBC’s Songs of Praise is a calculated political act. If this advice came from Damian McBride there is something particularly sinister about it.

  75. 234
    The Lone Ranger & Tonto says:

    Maybe?

    We will always be there to remind people of what she was…..and still is.

    Ho!!!!!…..Silver!

  76. 237
    Tim B says:

    If these arseholes are whipping votes for Speaker then I say there can be no better reason to sack the whole party.

    The one time Parliament needs a consensus Brown fucks it up with whipping. Get rid of him and his puppets!

  77. 240
    Anonymous says:

    The moment that thieving, horse-faced bitch is elected Speaker my complaint goes into the Met.

  78. 242
    Dogger says:

    This political stitch-up, AKA ‘selecting a Speaker’, is exactly what people hate most about MPs. The machinations of their closeted world in selecting their own representative within the house really excercises their imagination, whereas all parties enjoy a smug disinterest for the electorate – who rank distinctly second after ‘their’ benighted house, in their allegiances.

    But they are in danger of bringing attention to the very thing they might wish to draw a veil over – quite simply that if the position of Speaker is so bloody important then it should be up for public election. Whoever sets the tone of the Commons wields a significant influence in how the house operates and ultimately what decisions are reached there – so as we elect MPs so should we elect a speaker. To go on pretending that it is an internal matter of no bearing on wider politics is now an archaic view. It is hardly as if the Speaker is in a back office merely shuffling papers.

    Then there is the smelly little matter over the pact (give it its true name – conspiracy) of parties not contesting the speaker’s seat. Democracy in Britain is now a five-minute shit-storm every five years – er, except not if you live in the constituency blessed with the Speaker’s political encumberance, where you are supposed to be grateful that your choice of representative is benignly made for you. Fantastic!

    And if Beckett is the answer, you have to ask, “what in God’s holy name was the question?”.

    • 319
      Stalin's flaky pastry says:

      Well said. You are absolutely right. Democracy IS a five minute shit storm every five years to elect representatives who can’t change policies increasingly handed down by the EU.

      So what is the point of Parliament if it is nothing more than a giant cash machine for 650 lucky people and their relatives?

      Can you think of one piece of legislation passed by Labour that you would have missed had it not been passed?

  79. 255
    • 299
      Anonymous says:

      Absolutely spot on. All Mandy cares about is destroying the sovereignty of this country and from what I can see, it’s all going to plan. Thanks you self-servingn nasty Labour Mps.

  80. 256
    The Futility Monster says:

    You’re right. Richard Shepherd is by far the best candidate for the job.

    How do I know that? Well, I said so on my blog :-)

  81. 257
    Air Nokia One says:

    No! No! and No again!!

    We must not have another Labour speaker that will bend his / her will to the present Government and this PM which is absolutely, totally and utterly NOT acceptable. END OFF!!!! .
    If we do because it is foreced apon us the whenever this person is seen BOOOO!!!!!!!

    Not only do this government not meet the demands from all quarters of us the public to submit to a GE they then try to install a total troughing MP who is as good as there for life and un-opposed. P*SS in our faces why don’t you?

    Are you the voter (when allowed to vote) willing to accept such crap??? yet again?????

    The Irish referendum is close its our last chance…it truly is

    Remember however the victor I was told “always wrote the history books”

    • 320
      Stalin's flaky pastry says:

      >The Irish referendum is close its our last chance…it truly is

      Until of course, the Irish referendum after the next Irish referendum, called because the EU have given a little more ground again. And so it goes on.

      It seems that by hook or by crook they will have their all-encompassing super-sized gravy train whether you like it or not.

      The EU has failed every test required of an open and democratic system of Government. It is too big and too bloated to be of any use to anyone except those who are employed by it. It’s time to take our country back.

      I ask you, I beg you, to vote for UKIP or for any party that is intent on pulling us out of this monster’s grip at the next election.

      Let’s do it whilst we still have a vote that means something.

      • 380
        Cassandra King says:

        Remeber how that smirking reptile Barosso kept telling us that the CONstitution couldnt be changed and altered in any way?

        The EU commissars lie and cheat and change their positions like they are playing fucking musical chairs!

        First it was merely a ‘tidying up excersise’ then it was essential or the world would fall apart, then it was going to streamline the EU(lowers wind resistance?) and now it seems they can swap and change/insert and delete the text as required, so what changed since they said the text was written in stone and couldnt be changed in any way?

        What if the fine print in the offer to the Irish contains a get out clause to make any so called opt out useless?

  82. 259
    Great Big Billygoat Gruff says:

    The Labour Party bis turning into a suicide cult.

    Anyone checked the night shies to see if the Halebob Comet has returned?

  83. 262

    [...] The next Speaker will undoubtedly be a “Trouser Partridge” AND a &#822Read more at http://order-order.com/2009/06/21/labour-whips-beckett-votes/ [...]

  84. 263
    Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

    Disgusting! Third Labour stooge to be Speaker in a row (OK I exempt Betty from being a Labour stooge – she was good).

    Kick Labour out – they are a pile of dog vomit wrecking our country!
    Call an election now!!!!!!

  85. 293
    Pete-s says:

    Becket, is truly odious. I have long admired Sheperd. If Becket is selected, then that shows the continual venality of MPs.

  86. 296
    Champion the Wonder Horse says:

    Put her out to stud so that Madge gets her oats. And she can pull the family caravan up and down those busy A roads on bank holidays…..

    Neigh. Neigh. Neigh. Thrice neigh.

    • 303
      CHAPPS says:

      Does this bunch of MPs know how close we are to taking to the streets.
      If the new speaker does not have the full support of the british people,
      then we are all fucked.

      • 311
        Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

        We should take to the streets in any case – have heard suggestions that 10th August could be an auspicious day. Labour Out! Brown Out! Useless troughers out!

  87. 301
    MB says:

    Hattersley was on the Today programme this morning. He went on about PMQs and how it is all the fault of Cameron not asking proper questions and him only being interested in rousing the backbenchers. No mention of Broon never answering a question and just reading out political slogans for his backbenchers.

    • 304
      CHAPPS says:

      Hattersley is just a fucking ,fat ,bucket of lard.

      • 364
        Sylvia's Mother: says:

        Hattersley is a C*nt. Please bring back his slobbering Spitting Image puppet so funny and very appropriate. The man is a complete joke.

    • 313
      Voldemort says:

      Not forgetting the never ending planted questions.
      Bring back the twice weekly PMQ’s.

      • 317
        Hugh Janus says:

        Hattersley is completely barking. Why on earth Toady thought this interview a good idea is quite beyond me. Definitely one of ‘Yesterday’s Men’.

    • 341
      Magog says:

      Hattersley?

      Now there’s a face one could never tire of punching.

      A typical tribal politician, a complete apparatchik, a Labour automaton whose only purpose is to smear the opposition and keep its snout and trotters firmly in the trough.

      I loath Hattersley. He doesn’t get half of the opprobrium he deserves, if you ask me.

    • 367
      Borg Drone Won says:

      But reading out statistics on tractor production in the Ukraine is what being a PM is all about.

  88. 302
    Great Big Billygoat Gruff says:

    Hanging on to power at all costs.

    They are way beyond the pale now.

    They have become a threat to the security, democracy and harmony of this country.

    They are terrorists and must be treated under the appropriate laws, starting with shooting in the Underground, beating to death and arrested by “ANONYMOUS” uniformed officers with incarceration for 42 day incommunicado.

    That will do for a start for now.

  89. 305
    Auntie Flo' says:

    Snout in the the trough’s Beckett’s expenses:

    2007-8: £137,206 , 2006-7: £124,171, 2005-6 £132,996,

    2004-5: £122,445

    £1000+ for geraniums.

    Beckett for Speaker? NO,NO,NO,NO,NO,NO!

    Widdy for Speaker, Beckett for the boot!

  90. 310
    harpic says:

    What absolute claptrap – where are the educated people these days ? You cannot repeat cannot `whip` a secret ballot unless you are a complete cardboard front and believe everything which is told to you. We certainly do not need 600 illiterates milling around ruining the ozone layer – for God`s sake will someone remove this rabble. Come back Oliver and give us another going over.

    • 312
      Charles_E_Hardwidge says:

      You cannot ‘whip’ a secret ballot, but you can seek to influence the outcome.

      • 321
        Stalin's flaky pastry says:

        Politicians? At least with sheep you get to eat the damn thing when it is of no further use.

    • 325
      incandescent_with_rage says:

      I wouldn’t mind betting Mandy is behind this. Just the sort of slimy thing he’d do.

    • 366
      Sylvia's Mother: says:

      Your funny, please get you head out from up your ASS. Yes, it is a secret but the point is labour are having the whips rally support around Beckett and making it known in no uncertain terms who their candidate of choise is. Secret ballot or not whips have means and methods to try to influence the vote. You wait and see.

  91. 315
    Whiffler says:

    My tin-foil hat has just returned from the laundry, so here goes.

    The Speaker announces he is to leave his post.

    Local & Euro elections

    Cabinet reshuffle & PMs “I’m a changed man” speech to PLP

    A former Leader of the Labour Party (look it up !!), no longer worth a Cabinet Post despite having consistently been one of its better performers (OK – whiff of faint praise I’ll admit).

    Said former leader applies for Speakership – party whips apply themselves to any & every MP to ensure she gets the vote.

    So, is it just me, or is this yet another example of the Kremlin arranging to take more power for itself under the pretence of ‘reform’ ?.

    B@st@rds !

  92. 316
    Hugh Janus says:

    With a pedigree like that Richard Shepherd stands absolutely no chance. Most MPs are lower than the lowest form of animal life so they will do their utmost to ensure that the status quo prevails, with just a few cosmetic changes along the way in the hope of fooling the electorate. People are not stupid so the sooner they wake up to that idea the sooner we might seem some real reforms.

    • 326
      incandescent_with_rage says:

      I think it’s gone far beyond fooling the electorate. The troughers all know how angry we all are. It’s every man for himself in there now.

  93. 323
    Dim But Not That Stupid says:

    Quite right – Parliament is stained with corruption.If this is an example of how the clean up is going to happen, Brown could not have got it much more wrong.

  94. 331
    Buzz buzzzzz says:

    The only thing Beckett will ever attract are FLIES.

  95. 338
    Ever Vigilant says:

    What will Beckett do if she fails to get the job of speaker?

    Without it she will have to stand at the next general election where even her own constituents now detest her.

    She lacks the charm to sell snakeoil sowhat will the ugly bovine do?

    • 345
      Magog says:

      They won’t detest her any less if she is speaker. They’ll probably hate her even more.

      Even if the Cons and Libs don’t stand against her (by gentleman’s agreement) then a good celebrity independent should see her off smartly (but not that ghastly patronising bitch Estha Rantzen please!).

      • 369
        Sylvia's Mother: says:

        Martin Bell could see her off tout sweet!

        • 371
          Sylvia's Mother: says:

          That’s Toot sweet. As in rapid, quick.

        • 376
          Magog says:

          Wasn’t he heard mumbling something about sending his white suite to the dry cleaners?

          Perhaps he’s waiting to see who’d make a plumb target. ‘Speaker’ Beckett would make an excellent scalp.

      • 372
        A Broadcaster from the BBC come to save you little people says:

        She would be less ghastly and patronising than the current incumbent.

        Yours faking sincerity á la Tony Blair,

        Esther R.

  96. 365
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    Would anyone dissagree with me that La BECKETT has more of a Hang HORSE Expression face more than a Hang DOG Expression face.

  97. 377
    Anonymous says:

    If MPs elect Margaret Beckett to the Speakership they will have banged the final nail into their own coffin as far as the electorate is concerned.

    The House of Commons will lose what little respect may remain to it following the expenses scandal. For goodness’ sake, how can they even consider electing to the Speaker’s chair, whose job will be to guide reform of MPs allowances, a woman who has claimed public money to replenish her hanging baskets? Since when did a flourishing hanging basket become essential for an MP to fulfil his/her parliamentary duty? They may as well claim that a Porsche is necessary to fulfil parliamentary duties – the principle is the same.

    If Margaret Beckett is elected as Speaker, I am going to campaign for a public revolt. Demonstrations, strikes, go-slows, whatever it takes to hammer through the thick skulls of our MPs that they are there to represent us and not to play power games.

    And if they have any desire or intention to redeem themselves in the eyes of the public, and start to listen to the public and reconnect with the public – as they continually claim – they will demonstrate it by electing to the Speakership Ann Widdecombe, the overwhelming favourite as far as the public is concerned.

  98. 379
    Diane Abbot for speaker? says:

    “If Margaret Beckett is elected as Speaker, I am going to campaign for a public revolt. ”

    Or srand against her in her constituency and let the ngood people of Derby South send her to pasture.

  99. 381
    Anonymous says:

    Margaret Beckett speaking now in te Speaker election:

    “We come here to serve out interest rather than our own.”

    Who do you think you are kidding, you claimant from the public purse of plants for your hanging baskets?

    Don’t believe a word of what you say.



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