June 16th, 2009

Kelly Review of MP’s Expenses

The Committee on Standards in Public Life Review of MPs’ Expenses kicks off today with opening evidence from “witnesses”; Harriet Harman MP, Alan Duncan MP and David Heath MP.  Surely they are “the accused”?

Sir Christopher Kelly invited evidence from all interested parties and some of the submissions were better than others. Some of the best submissions (out of hundreds) are up on the Committee’s website.  Guido suggests you skip reading all the MPs’ self serving demands. In the main they unsurprisingly argue for even more money.  Look instead at some of the more realistic submissions:

Donald Hirsch, Head of Income Studies, Loughborough University argues for a £1,600 increase in pay to compensate MPs for loss of their well-padded expense perks. They base this on the same sort calculations applied to welfare claimants.  That seems a fair basis to Guido.

Comparison

The Sunlight Centre for Open Politics makes income comparisons both internationally and against average UK earnings and consequently argues for no increase in MPs’ expense allowances or pay.  Transparency International suggests some safeguards against MPs’ corruption. Unlock Democracy puts forward some broad ideas and principles. The Taxpayers’ Alliance suggests among other ideas, accommodating MPs in the Olympic Village.  It is fair to say that all these NGOs make the case for transparency down to the last penny.

The Council of Employment Judges suggests MPs should get the same expenses as them, £95 a night.  The Chartered Institute of Public Finance Accounting wants full accounting, the National Audit Office wants to do the accounting.  The Electoral Commssion wants harmonisation of various reporting requirements.

The NGOs which do not receive taxpayer subsidies on the whole do not want another Quango, the various Quangos all want to protect or increase their turf.  All the political parties claim to want to reduce the cost of MPs’ expenses.  It will be interesting to see who is called from outside the cosy political establishment to give evidence, Peter Oborne has made a submission…


146 Comments

  1. 1
    freddie flintoff says:

    lunitcs and aslyum come to mind

    • 6
      Reg511 says:

      for all those amused by routine mischief

      http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/MP2ndHome/

      I am sure more of you care about MP’s expenses than Bingo Tax

    • 9
      Charles Fuckwit says:

      The intriguing vision of Piers is back

    • 30

      They cannot be trusted to reform their cosy arrangements. Turkeys don’t vote for Christmas. Just make them submit properly receipted expense claims based on the PAYE rules, and have them published and audited. Job done.

      The Penguin

      • 74
        Bordeaux Binger says:

        PAYE only applies to the little people. Those who rule are above such mundane things. The system used for our aristocracy also has the added advantage of giving employment to armies of accountants and tax avoidance experts. These
        professions have yet another advantage in providing jobs for those leaving the public sector of HM Customs and Revenue and the Treasury. The whole edifice would topple if PAYE was brought in for everybody.

    • 45

      talking of lunatics why has finkelstein been quote of the day for weeks?

      • 117

        The only solution is to get a chamber of representative MPs and Peers to oversee the arrangements and restore trust.

        We have nominated the most respected MPs, former Mps and peers from the House.

        Jefferey Archer
        Jonathen Aitken
        Peter Hain
        Hazel Blears
        Julie Kirkbride
        Tony Blair
        John Stoneman
        jeremy thorpe
        John profumo
        LLoyd George
        Tim Yeo
        Peter Mandelson
        Keith Vaz
        Ron Davies
        Neil Hamilton
        Geoffery Rio
        Mark Oaten
        Jack dromey
        derek conway
        Lord truscott
        Lord taylor
        Margaret Moran
        and for morality guidance Nigel griffiths

        • 129
          Steve Expat says:

          Add to that Ian Taylor, just announced he’s off too.

          Another one bites the dust!

        • 137
          Fells Point barfly says:

          Avoid the rush …….. resign early.

          Jobs for ex-MPs will be very much in demand come the outcome of the general election.

  2. 2
    Pete-s says:

    Why no talk about Shaddy Malik?

    • 5
      Lord Ahmed of Tubb says:

      Leave it owt guv’nor

      • 28
        Pete-s says:

        While in your roller, this time I hope you kept your eyes on the road as you typed in the reply?

    • 31

      Cos it would be racist and anti-muslim, innit?

      The Penguin

      • 79
        Bordeaux Binger says:

        Also it would be embarrassing for No 10 which would be unfair to Gordon as there is a shortage of incontinence pants in Westminster.

    • 122
      Shady Malarkey says:

      The Telegraph and Daily Mail continued to expose him and the Mawer acquittal until a couple of days ago, but all is quiet in the rest of the MSM. This is all playing into the hands of the British Naughty Party. There are 346 comments on their website responding to the original disclosures. My favourite is:

      “Yes malik the system is flawed, in so much that it was intended to be used by honest people with morrels and a decent set of values. The amount of money involved is important to the taxpayers, but it is not the most important question in this sqallied affair. Trust is what counts, if we can not trust the people whos actions and decisions impact our lives every day then they have to be replaced, all of them cross party.The system was weak, it exposed them to temptation, and being the sordid grubby hypocrates they are, they could not resist it. Imagine if you will a burgler up in front of the magistrate, ” It wasnt my fault your honour, they had left the door unlocked”.

      Are there any other MPs you can think of that would taste better with morrels?

  3. 3
    Lucre Filthy says:

    You gotta Nuke the lot and start again.

    Committees beget committees, NGOs beget NGOs, Quangos beget Quangos.

    • 8
      barefootcontessa says:

      The inquiry will be totally self-serving, the establishment always defends it’s own.

    • 16
      Voting Floater says:

      Nuke the lot. Agreed.

      What good are they? They just fuck everything up.

    • 61
      Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

      This talk is whitewashing and obsfucation. They don’t even have free will and are never there to debate en masse. There should be ‘clocking in/out machine’ (payroll) and there must be no whippin except on issues or policy promissed at a general election. We can talk about salary and expenses ’till the pigs come home but that doesn’t solve the democratic debate and voting issues at all.

      • 138
        Geoffrey Boycott says:

        don’t think the clocking in machine a good idea. How about a daily thrashing, prompt at 9 o’clock, then again at 5 o’clock before going home using a cricket bat?
        they do it in yorkshire ya know!!

    • 108
      Penfold says:

      And enquiries beget Whitewashes

  4. 4
    Lord Sugar says:

    Dear Guido

    As your business advisor can I draw your attention to the vastly reduced number of site hits since you attached the awful Piers Morgan video.

    I recommend that you remove this obnoxious turd from your blog and replace it with something less upsetting.

    Yours

    Alan

  5. 7
    Sir Wankalot says:

    Porta-cabins would be to good for the useless bunch of Wankers

  6. 10

    Labour believes in delivering social justice to all wherever they live. That means that we insist on national standards in key areas and that we fund local services to help deliver this fairly. But we are clear that the best way to govern ourselves and to deliver excellent services is in most cases through decentralisation and devolution. We believe that wherever possible we should pass influence, power and control to the people, to local institutions and groups, to front line staff and to local councils. We do this because we trust the people to be the best authors of their destinies, and want to see power spread through our society. Labour’s approach is rooted in the idea that local people and communities possess the ingenuity and common sense to run their own affairs and collectively solve their problems, given the right framework of resources and support from central government.

    • 12
      freddie flintoff says:

      oh do shut up you hoon

    • 15
      Pete-s says:

      You’re avin a larf!

    • 18
      Anonymous says:

      zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    • 20
      Throbber says:

      Hahahahaha fantastic joke.
      You fucking retard

    • 21
      Voting Floater says:

      Charles, are you by any chance related to a certain Bhownagree, late of this parish, who turned out to be none other than Dave’s little chum, Steve Hilton? That is to say, a wind-up merchant rather than a troll, whose mission was to extract as much steam and ire as possible from the right.

      Whether you are or no, may I suggest you take the excellent advice offered to you repeatedly in recent days, viz: fuck off.

      • 90

        He is obviously a schitzo, he posts one comment, then says exactly the opposite in a comment further down, a little while later. I have been saying for ages that we should not be cutting the mental health services budgets for this exact reason.

    • 23
      Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

      What a perfect inversion of the truth.

      Chas – are you really nuts or are you just a brass-necked liar?

    • 29
      Groucho says:

      Some of your best work yet. Keep it up – brightens up my day!

    • 32
      barefootcontessa says:

      Don’t encourage this ‘guy’, he’s just trying to hijack guido’s blog. If you ignore him he may go away.

    • 33
      Sunny Jim says:

      Charles vomited this:-

      “But we are clear that the best way to govern ourselves and to deliver excellent services is in most cases through decentralisation and devolution”

      So why are you and your fellow cretins hell-bent on placing us under the jackboot of the EvilUnion without a Referendum?

      Piss off and do one, you knob jockey

    • 41

      Labour believes in delivering increased immigration and islamification wherever you live. That means that we insist on national standards in key areas and that you will fund local services to help deliver this. But we are clear that the best way to govern and to deliver excellent services is in most cases through centralisation and non-devolution. We believe that wherever possible we should pass influence, power and control to immigrants to local institutions and groups who support immigrants and to front line staff and to local councils to further enhance our policy of mass immigration and islamification. We do this because we don’t trust the indiginious people to be the best authors of their destinies, and we want government power spread through to control society. Labour’s approach is rooted in the idea that mass immigration and islamification is needed to provide ingenuity and common sense and to prove to the white indiginious majority that their own affairs have been woeful for sometime and collectively this will solve their problems, given the right framework of resources and support from central government for this policy of mass immigration and islamification.

      • 48
        Adolf says:

        What about the Polish Catholics?

        • 53
        • 66
          resurgemus says:

          This is the point and you’re ignoring it

          Czas na bardziej sprawiedliwy podatek lokalny.
          Wszyscy wiemy, że obecny podatek gminny jest podatkiem niesprawiedliwym.
          Godzi w tych, którzy najmniej mogą sobie na to pozwolić, oraz tam, gdzie ich to
          najbardziej boli – po kieszeni. Najciężej dotyka to emerytów i osoby ciężko pracujące na
          swoje utrzymanie. Co więcej, pod rządami Partii Pracy stawka podatku wzrosła tak
          bardzo, że niektóre z rodzin wydają nań rocznie £1166.
          Czas aby położyć temu kres i znaleźć nowe rozwiązanie.

        • 83
          REVEREND IAN PAISLEY says:

          WOT DOO YEW THINK HIS POINT IS YOU PAPIST HEATHEN!
          THE COUNTRY WILL BE ROOLED FROM ROME!!

      • 54
        Abolish the Licence Fee says:

        This sub-post at number 41 is FAR closer to the truth. Thanks for the reality check!

        • 82
          barefootcontessa says:

          I agree with every word resurgemus.

        • 85

          Time for a fairer local tax.
          We all know that the current municipal tax is a tax unfair.
          Detrimental to those who can least afford it, and where they are
          boli most – in your pocket. Most affected by the retired and those working hard to their livelihoods. Moreover, under the Labor Party increased the tax rate so much that some of the families seem to him a year 1166. £
          Time to put to stop and find a new solution.

          See even the Poles dont like labour, certainly not their taxes

      • 107
        Sir William Waad says:

        “Stercorem pro cerebros habes” (Cicero – ‘That’s certainly food for thought’)

    • 56
      Ian E says:

      Sarcasm is normally inappropriate on such issues – still you gave me a good laugh!

    • 106
      Amy Grant says:

      You can’t be Charles, your posts are written in plain English, without obfuscation and no mention of hand waving and zen bollockry.

  7. 13
    Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

    Agree with #2, Guido. Hope the silence on Malik implies much ferreting taking place.

    When you do go for him, don’t forget to include the ‘Muslim Takeover’ video.

  8. 14
    Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

    All the proposals from non-troughers imply a reduction in MPs’ incomes, in my view rightly.

    The self-interested MPs tell us that it will result in the flight of quality MPs. Is there any way we could measure this?

    It would be fun to come back to the topic after the next election and compare the quality pre- and post.

    Maybe a job for Guido, maybe for one of the monitoring organisations.

    • 62
      Ian E says:

      If they could point out these ‘quality’ MPs I might be less sceptical. I suppose they refer to the likes of Margaret Moran : the quality of her incisive intellect is probably an appropriate measure for where MP salaries/expenses should lie (sic!).

    • 67
      albacore says:

      The title “Member of Parliament” is now synonymous with the word “shit”.
      Farmers are expert in determining the quality and utility of such matter as fertiliser.
      Let the NFU judge them.

  9. 17
    Vote vote vote for Jacqui says:

    Guido,

    Please remove this Morgan obscenity. I cannot look at him again nor will I ever eat another PhlegmFlamedBurger. Yuk to both.

  10. 19
    it really is the economy, eejit says:

    O/T May inflation figure just out – catastrophic, far above expectations of establishment shills. CPI in UK now at annualised 7 to 8% rate. Eurozone average 0%.

    Latest Europe-wide car registration figures show Jaguar and Land Rover down nearly half compared to last year. JLR is bust; it needs hundreds of millions of pounds to keep trading. LDV a mere sideshow.

    UK is in nightmare situation of accelerating price rises with all money spent on bailing out insolvent banks. The only option is to raise interest rates – destroying totally UK’s ‘FIRE’, finance, insurance, real estate, only remaining industry or print more money to pay higher public sector wage claims, so destroying pensions and savings with hyperinflation.

    • 34
      Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

      The currency markets don’t seem bothered about it.

      • 99
        lsd says:

        First, the US dollar is off a false high, built up by G8 meeting coordinated ‘save the dollar’ messages and second, the traders must know that UK will have to raise base rates imminently against spiralling price rises, hence the relative rise in the pound. Retail petrol has risen 6% in price between mid May and mid June, compared to 3% between April and May.

        • 127
          Abolish the Licence Fee says:

          Don’t expect any drastic action from the Bank of England this side of the General Election. After the election, however, expect PLENTY.

    • 50
      The Beast Of Clerkenwell says:

      Let me tell you registration may have halved, but sales are even less
      All those cars have been motthballed(I know this)

      • 77
        Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

        I heard an advert on the radio from a Taiwan made car dealer Kia (Which is vomit in Hebrew) offering this Gov’t cash back scrappage scheme. How does helping taiwanese car makers help the uk economy and why is the taxpayer subsidising this? OK for uk made, even foreign owned but not imports surely?

        • 95
          lsd says:

          Kia is Korean, owned by Hyundai of Korea.

        • 98
          Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

          Sorry Korea but I stand by my point though. Thanks for the correction

        • 101
          Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

          I heard some euro-guy on the radio this morning saying it was great.
          The whole thing stinks of a euro-compromise.

          Perhaps we were supposed to buy French and German cars.

        • 104
          lsd says:

          It would be illegal under single market trade rules to have the scrappage scheme favour UK made cars. According to Telegraph last week to date over 90% of all cars ordered under the scrappage scheme are foreign made. The single largest beneficiary has been the Hyundai make.

      • 113
        lsd says:

        Beast, small cars are shifting(Ford’s Fiesta sold out), due to scrap schemes, Germany’s above all. Europe-wide car market in May was only off a few percent compared to May 08, with VW increasing sales and market share, now to over 21% of the total European market. JLR by contrast is going off a cliff. even compared to the other premium brands. In 2008 JLR combined was making over 200,000 units, in 2009 it will not make 100,000. Something has to give. Tata will not pay so the UK taxpayer must bail them with nine figure sums or see a major plant like Solihull be shut down. The loss of 5,000+ direct workers and up to five times as many indirects in the supply base would finish the B’ham/Solihull conurbatiion. The news is similar elsewhere, beyong core manufacturing, with British Airways looking like going belly-up.

        • 130
          Abolish the Licence Fee says:

          I think it’s even worse than that, lsd. WTO rules prevent the UK from barring participation in the scheme by manufacturers outside of europe, too. That’s the kind of agreements these bastards have signed us up to at the behest of their internationalist backers and it’s been crippling the country now for decades. The grunt continually about doing what’s best for Britain- “British jobs for British workers” and so on but in reality they just sell out. If people stopped believing politicians’ utterances AT ALL and rather judged them solely on their actions and record, then the world would be a lot better place.

        • 144
          Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

          I want an austin allegro.

    • 64
      oldrightie says:

      Banks still need in excess of £250 billion just to cover monthly liabilities.

  11. 22
    Cyco Billy says:

    Who else is getting BK beefcake when they comment? I don’t consider myself homophobic, but I’m going to have to switch to a browser with a flash killer.

    • 60
      Abolish the Licence Fee says:

      I’m getting re-directed to WordPress. I just assumed Guido had a tie-up with them.
      PS, don’t you think Piers Moron in this hideous video looks very much like the fat landlord in ‘Early Doors’?

    • 71
      backwoodsman says:

      Cyco, you don’t understand – this is the latest marketing stroke of genius from that towering intelect ed balls, promoting govt higer education. The subliminal message is , qualify as a mechanically rendered bovine protein inversion technician , and you too can be as popular as PM.

    • 128
      Cyco Billy says:

      I think the penny is in free-fall – I haven’t actually seen a pic of this Dirty Digger detritus for some time.

      So it’s a Guido joke. Morgan, the dead trees ex-”journo” and nu labour sycophant, gets depicted in the New Media as “the story”, to wit, as nu labour wanna-be cock-sucker – same thing, but figuratively transposed. Neat joke, if/and unsavoury. But there seems to be more.

      Morgan was on Desert Island Discs (not my usual radio listening) last week, exhibiting a lack of taste in music that is not just execrable, but kitch – Aznavour anyone? Any fule know that if you want to look good by name-dropping European, it has to be either Brel (whether you speak any French or not) or Kraftwerk, but not both of course. And in there, the disk he’d most like to save (savour?) was “Mambo Italiano”. I kid you not – his numero uno. I mean WTF – what is with italian mambo? Isn’t there supposed to be plenty on Hampstead Heath, if rambo-mambo is what you want. And I had to listen how the Dirty Digger gave him the job after a private tete-a-tete on Miami beach. Nuff said. So Guido’s joke inside the joke is about plausible deniability and what mileage you can get out of it.

      Is this about right, or I am right out my tree and barking up the wrong one? (OK, there’s freedom of the press in there too, but I think I’ll drop that – it would be like not just gnawing on the bone, but sucking it dry, if you take my meaning).

  12. 24
    Hedley Lamarr says:

    Guido – OT a bit but worth a look

    http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/politics/McBride-39back-working-for-government39.5364066.jp

    Sorry, don’t know how to do clever links

    Get that bloody pic of Moron off my screen please!

  13. 25
    Sir Wankalot says:

    Morgan looks as if Mandy has just Shafted him LOL

  14. 27
    Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

    Housing expenses. Oldish news – with openness and better rules about second homes it would be sorted. Not too keen on just giving them a pay rise – that goes FOR Mp’s living 30 miles from london, and against those living further who might have lots of real expenses that they wouldnt otherwise have. Perhaps £95 plus 2nd class rail.

    What about office and staffing?
    For a start “MP’s should not have paid staff who are full time students”

  15. 36
    Barbie Tourette says:

    ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz……. . . .

  16. 37
    Ian Phlegming says:

    Thwoop

  17. 39

    Guido,

    You may well be getting enough dosh from Burger King to have 10 Whoppers a day for the rest of your life, but inflicting this Huhne on your readers is grossly insensitive of you.

    Can you not make it an option? For perverts to enjoy?

    The Penguin

    • 52
      Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

      Perhaps we need to subvert Guido’s mind.

      Every time you sink your teeth into BK-meat … think of Piers morgan.

    • 59
      Architectural Review says:

      Thanks for your post on Lord Rogers, Penguin.

      In Michael Howard’s words – “are you thinking what I’m thinking ?”

      • 78
        barefootcontessa says:

        Glad Charles won out on this one. That whining rogers thinks he can plaster his ghastly buildings wherever he chooses.

        • 86
          Architectural Review says:

          Quinlan Terry’s plan is much more in keeping – “old fashioned” (aka timeless) or not !!

  18. 42
    caesars wife says:

    Interesting graph guido , i note another tory mp has just stopped being a banking director ??

    what about the holiday package and pension , should mps really get more money??

    £500/week , free bus, tube and rail travel, either live in olympic village for £50/week or buy your own , Bish , Bash Bosh job done

    • 47
      caesars wife says:

      piers morgan vid is making me think of charles hardwidge, perhaps it is him seems as though charlie has been buying domain names and loves your site guido , i wonder derek or damien ???

  19. 43
    Harry Cole-Bean says:

    Prrrp!

  20. 46
    Agent 99 says:

    Are these expenses proceedings to be held in private, have no authority to apportion blame and report after the next GE?

    McTwat seems to like this approach he does after all have previous form you know.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1193167/Transparency-What-joke-Iraq-war-inquiry-sit-secret-power-apportion-blame–oh-yes-wont-report-election.html

  21. 51
    • 84
      Anonymous says:

      I had a White Van Man in the back of my cab once

    • 131
      Agent 99 says:

      Anyone who watched last weeks QT cannot have missed the guy at the end of the program that stated directly to OrangeHain face re the LDV situation……

      “You have forgotten us we know that but come the next election WE won’t forget you”

      Said from the heart and I couldn’t have said it better myself.

      Labour = TOAST

    • 141
      Lil Olmey says:

      Nothing that mary riddell says is relevant on this planet.

  22. 65
    barefootcontessa says:

    The government are playing with the people as usual, like cat and mouse. They have absolutely no intention of being transparent and really sorting out
    lack of democracy, – viz Iraq inquiry to be held in secret. Were the opposition parties consulted about the members of the committee as d milliband suggested on radio 4 (e davies interview this am)? I doubt this, the other parties will know. He (dm) sounded very evasive in the interview. Anyway gb is throwing up as many diversionary tactics as he can, the inquiry being only one. He is still hanging on by his finger nails – what’s left of them!

  23. 68
    Stronghold Barricades says:

    Can we just ask for firing squads?

    • 86
      It's all Balls says:

      I will set up an enquiry to examine this suggestion in detail. I will personally appoint all of the members of the enquiry team and you will understand that the enquiry must be held in private so that all of my (sorry the) witnesses can speak openly about the need or otherwise for a firing squad.

      The enquiry will report its findings in September 2010.

      In the meantime, I know that what the people want (well at least 5%) is for me to get on with the job and that is what I will do.

  24. 70
    Lord W. says:

    I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT MPs EXPENSES

    THE COUNTRY IS FUCKED

    TAXES ARE UP UP UP

    IS THIS NOT THE ISSUE?

  25. 73
    Master Baiter says:

    Speaking of corruption, it was reported last year that David Cameron had asked Lord Ashcroft to clarify his tax affairs following assurances he made when he was made a peer in 2000.

    Asked recently about the issue, shadow foreign secretary William Hague said he had “no reason” to believe the peer had not complied with his commitments.

    What commitments/assurances do you think Lord Ashcroft, no doubt also a money laundering contributor to the Sunlight Centre for Open Politics, made?

    • 80
      resurgemus says:

      The Kinnocks are personal friends ?

      Lord Sainsbury shares my opinion ?

      Bernie Ecclestone says it’s in the rules ?

      Lord Levy asked if I’d like to be a baron ?

      • 100
        Master Baiter says:

        All the individuals you mention are UK resident and pay UK taxes, Lord Ashcroft is not UK resident and does not pay UK taxes.

        • 109
          resurgemus says:

          Oh you do make me laugh!

          An MEP subject to the same tax regime as the rest of us ?

          For people with this level of wealth, tax is an optional extra – their tax advisors see to that. Something tells me Lord K isn’t your typical PAYE mug.

          New Balls please

        • 111
          It's all Balls says:

          You are obviously well connected MB if you know as a fact that Ashcroft pays no UK tax and is into money laundering.

          Perhaps you could divulge your sources?

        • 116
          Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

          111 … Sorry to say, but the squeaky little git might have a point.

          I heard the interview and Hague was being pretty damn vague.
          “I have no reason to doubt” he said several times – on the subject as to whether Ashcroft would have made him self uk-tax-resident, as he promised several years ago.

          Of course, none of us have reason to doubt the promises of a politician.

        • 123
          Master Baiter says:

          Sunlight Laundry?

    • 103
      Tin Cunliffe-Arsely says:

      Do you think MPs should be allowed to employ and pay full time students?

  26. 75
    BOFL http://ageofkali.blogspot.com/ says:

    why aren’t the police arresting and tazing them?

    no way that they should get a penny more!

    perhaps a ‘CLAWBACK’ and 99 years hard labour to repay all the money they have stolen and wasted…….

    Brown should have been arrested for treason after announcing the gold sale-against the advice of his advisors( paid for by us chumps)..therefore costing the uk an estimated 7 BILLION POUNDS…ffs!!!!!

  27. 81
    DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

    Talking of enquiries, Guido, how about a blog on the Iraq war enquiry?

    • 134
      Agent 99 says:

      There already is one but you just can’t see it as it’s all behind closed blogging doors you see. Clever that don’t you think?

      Anyway for the benefit of those locked outside the outcome of the enquiry was no one is responsible and the Government acted in good faith at all times.

      What? say again?….. what do you mean the enquiry hasn’t even started yet?

      Ah well thats what we will ensure is the result is to be announced after the GE but we will leak the good bits in the week before the GE.

      Next question? ask me one on sport I’m good at those.

  28. 88
    Sir William Waad says:

    What about paying MPs by results? A basic salary and potentially a large bonus based on unemployment levels, economic growth, health outcomes, a happiness index, crime, the number of deaths caused by terrorism and military action and educational achievement measured against other countries?

    • 93
      resurgemus says:

      What about paying MPs LITERALLY to do nothing ( MP set aside )

      No new crap laws

      No new taxes

      No bullshit on TV

      No having to listen to their opinions

      Since they’re at home cheaper – as no expenses

    • 105
      Broadband for all says:

      Performance-related pay for MP’s ??????

      They’d have a minus salary.

    • 120
      Smart Weapon says:

      Can anyone think of a law that was introduced by Labour in the last decade that was really needed?

      • 135
        Agent 99 says:

        Can we save time here and rephrase the question

        “can anyone think of a law Labout introduced that actually was needed?”

  29. 90
    Moley says:

    The Committee’s conclusions and recommendations have already been written.

    It is now a procedural matter to ensure that the evidence and submissions support the recommendations.

  30. 97
    And now for something completely different says:

    Sky news has confirmed that Esther Ratbag will stand in Luton.

    Stop that whining at the back!
     

    • 139
      Sausazzages woof! says:

      is that her in the video? If so she was a looker when she wasn’t an old hag

    • 142
      Doc Cox says:

      That’s life

    • 146
      Polly Toy'N'Bee says:

      But wasn’t her whole elction gimmick that she was going to get rid of theTory-inspited MP who let down the people of Luton by not being a member of the Labour party and now that she is not standing why should Esther stand?

  31. 102
    Anonymous says:

    Esther Rantzen? Doesn’t she advertise accident insurance?

  32. 110
    The red shoots of recovery says:

    Brent Crude Oil Futures $/barrel 71.50

  33. 112
    The red shoots of recovery says:

    Job losses ‘will keep rising for another year’

  34. 114
    The red shoots of recovery says:

    UK inflation higher than expected in May

  35. 115
    The red shoots of recovery says:

    The recession will bring “a bloodbath in the public finances” resulting in ‘Huge job cuts’ for public sector

  36. 119
    RavingMad says:

    Harman currently not giving evidence merely spouting new labour dross and getting away with it – not much hope of ruthless and merciless killing that is necessary….

  37. 126
    Richard says:

    I looked at the Committee website here:

    http://www.public-standards.gov.uk/OurWork/MPs__Expenses___Evidence.html

    Many comments are interesting.

    However, I am amazed what a careless and sloppy job has been done in scanning the various letters into .pdf files. Most of the pages are inclined at angles, making them hard to read. To my mind, this shows that whoever was responsible for managing the placement of these letters on the website does not really care about making them easy for the public to read.

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