Byrne On/Off on Cuts and Spending
Last night there was a briefing scheduled by the Labour Party on “Tory Cuts” :
Operational Note
Sunday 14 June 2009
Strictly for operational use – not for publication or broadcast
Liam Byrne MP, Labour’s Chief Secretary to the Treasury, sets out the choice facing voters between investment under Labour and cuts under the Conservatives.
The economic landscape is more uncertain than it has been for generations. But irrespective of what happens over the coming years, David Cameron – Mr 10% – wants to spend less than Labour and give £200,000 tax cuts to the 3,000 richest families.
In the years ahead – from 2011/12 onwards – no matter what the economic circumstances – the Conservatives are committed to 10 per cent cuts across almost all Government departments.
Format: Off camera, on record briefing
Date: Monday 15 June 2009
Venue: Labour Party HQ, 39 Victoria Street
Time: 1115 arrival for 1130 press briefing with Liam Byrne MP followed by Q&A session
Then it was cancelled:
Subject: News from Labour: Liam Byrne MP briefing tomorrow (15.06.2009) cancelled
Dear all,
Please note that tomorrow morning’s off camera, on record briefing with Liam Byrne MP, Chief Secretary to the Treasury, has now been cancelled.
Kind regards,
Laurence Newman
Labour Party Press Office
Now, apparently, it is back on. Though some Lobby hacks say they haven’t been telphoned about it. Cock-up or conspiracy?
UPDATE : Guido is not breaking the “not for publication or broadcast” embargo, because he did not get sent these emails directly. Despite the Labour Party spinning that it is now reaching out to bloggers, Guido is excluded by Labour’s press office.
Guido gets press releases, operational notes and press conference invitations from the LibDems, Conservatives, SNP and UKIP. Nothing however from Labour’s press office, despite Roger Baker, Head of Press and Broadcasting at 39 Victoria Street telling Guido personally only last week that this would change. When it does, Guido will respect their embargoes…
Conspiracy.
Labour didn’t get where they are today by telling the electorate the truth.
Whichever party gets in will have to cut spending and raise taxes.
Tell us the facts you political hoons!
After all, we pay for your food, televisions, gardeners etc
“Labour didn’t get where they are today by telling the electorate the truth”
Cameron knows that too.
Agreed, but Labour have set the bar bloody high!
http://www.buildingbritainsfuture.co.uk/
It’s the same pack of blatant lies and distortions.
This ties in perfectly with The lies written by McBroon in yesterday’s Sunday Mirror.
Do they really think we’re going to believe this?
As the saying goes “their contempt for you is total”
Well done HP……
McBride is back….
http://tinyurl.com/lzhdol
TORY CUTS!
That’s what it will be positioned as.
And the effing Tories won’t have the Yvettes or Eds to brazen it out for a couple of days until the female-sleb-Nooz-readers have got bored and moved on, and then do it anyway. (As they bloody ought.)
WHAT HAPPENED TO FIGHTING FOR BRITISH MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY & THE BRITISH PEOPLE?
BRITISH PROMISE TO FIGHT EU HEDGE FUND RULES
June 15, 2009
http://www.finalternatives.com/node/8218
The British government has vowed to fight “tooth and nail” to save London’s hedge fund industry from the European Union’s plan to impose strict new rules.
Paul Myners CBE, the U.K. financial services secretary, promised to fight to lessen the impact of the proposed rules at this week’s European Council meeting.
Labour need to understand that the Goebbels ‘big lie’ principle is only likely to succeed when people want to believe and haven’t already been listening to self-evident lies on a day-to-day basis. And certainly not when they’re utterly pissed off after 12 years of big lies from a played-out government and and are desperate for change.
Especially when documentation available online and in the dead tree press tells them something totally different
ATM Brown’s relaunch is simply an episode of untruths and scare stories.
No one should listen until they tell us what their policies are, or is it just to drift until they can see “land”?
Sorry to be so off topic Guido but what’s all this in the Scotland on Sunday about Damien McBride’s ‘return’ to Gordon’s side? The McBride’s Return
Has Goebbels ‘big lie’ anything to do with Goebbels Mick’s resignation?
It is strange to think that the Nazis were only in for 12 years – six of which they were up to their ears in war. Unlike New Labour, which has only been involved in Afghanistan and Iraq for… well, blow me…. six years.
He looks remarkably like Heinrich Luitpold Himmler,
Heinrich Himmler was the head of the SS and also the head of all the concentration camps. He set up the first concentration camp at Dachau in March 1933. What are the analogies?
There’s too many to mention without the internet running out of memory.
Only one ball
Poor Guido. Doesn’t get invited to play so won’t give the ball back. Ah, diddums.
fuck off you hoon
If you can’t see that something is not right when all the main parties bar labour send stuff to him, then you are even more stupid than you appear to be. What’s the matter, getting scared as next may draws ever closer?
Couldn’t be more wrong on the political front if you tried. But I always like to expose a hypocrite. Is this the same Guido who likes to point the finger at every rumour of indiscretion on lack of integrity?
I find breaking well established publishing conventions simply because you’re not included on the mailing list very petulant & childish … but I guess that explains the ‘quality’ of the comments on the site!
How dare you, sir!
Saint Guido laughs at censorship! Ha! Ha!
Why, anyday now, he’ll get his Sinclair Spectrum fixed so that Pacman don’t gobble posts quoting the Party that cannot Be Named.
Except, Rebel Saint, that the convention is that an embargo only applies to you if you have been sent it. The only person who has broken it is whoever sent it to Guido.
Come to that, didn’t Guido explain this ….?
Gay Gordon and his clique are telling the world that David Cameron is “Mr 10%” for the proposed cuts the Conservatives would do to the unaffordable and still expanding public sector.
But why don’t we call Gordon Mr 10%? It was the same percentage tax rise he made the poorest pay, before Gordon decided to buy them off with a poxy one year bribe for the poor to forget about the massive tax rise when he was found out.
Even better, why not call him “Mr 10% Tax On The Poor”?
Gordon is not the problem. The problem is stopping Mandy selling us to Europe before the next election.
Gordon Brown is Mr 80% more like
50% (soon) as income tax
10% national insurance
20% (soon) VAT
that leaves 20% for the hard working mugs still left in this shithole concentration camp of a country on PAYE.
This is a really good point.
This writer has committed the fatal error of believing even a jot of Tory hysteria. The abolition of the 10p tax rate only appears to compel those poorest in our community to finance the exorbitant, wild, and needless expansion of the Whitehall bureaucracy. In actuality, it gives them more of an advantage in thatNu Labour can hire more state workers, in effect creating a larger indentured class of Nu Labour voting drones, and so enable Nu Labour to maintain power longer. And Nu Labour are the party of the poor. It’s win-win for the lower classes.
It’s all explicated very well in my newest dissertation of Fidelity Graphics, called “My Motherboard and Other Animals”.
Charles
I have played this game and it has flaws, it contains a worm call “Ed Balls” you need an anti-viral software package call ” General Election” after that the poor appear to prosper and social mobility is restored
I think I’ve heard of this political scenario before. Wasn’t it set in a state called “Oceania?”
The 10% cuts are Liebour Cuts after NHS has been ringfenced from the 7% cuts listed in the Budget Red Book. LIEBOURS Budget Red Book. They are NOT Tory cuts
Gordon Brown as Mr. 10%. Descriptive of the amount of time (if we’re lucky) he might be expected to be telling the truth.
Yes CJ
The day this Labour Government is truthful with the British public will be something indeed -we’ve had 12 years of their mendaciousness and let’s face it if they can take the country to war on a lie lying about public sector spending cuts and the state of the public debt is “small beer” and something that none of them will lose sleep about.They regard the majority of the electorate as fools anyway!
The whole lot of them could swear an oath on their mother’s grave that they were being honest and straightforward but I’d still check my wallet
And my arse
Check out the comments on this (don’t bother to read the article, it’s NL make believe:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jun/14/ed-balls-labour-conservative-spending
Well there are some afordable cuts straight up, like not paying £600 a month so big fat Ed Balls can feed his porcine self.
You may want to talk about Tory CUTS, the rest want to talk about Labour CLINTS
Just being swimming down at Brockwell and in error flicked through the Guardian at Blackbird while waiting for coffee.
Ed Balls YOU ARE A Hoon.
Swimming on a Monday morning? Are you a Labour voter?
Yeah, the water’s very fresh at this time of day innit?
Just been traversing the Dover Straits myself, with the wife on the back and the yung’un tucked into my trousers as I do the freestyle to Boulogne.
If you swim in Brockwell Lido, you need your head read.
and searched for nits.
Ok, so the economy is running at the moment as £3 in and £4 out, meaning that 25% of our spending is being subsidised by borrowing. Not sure if loan repayments are part of the £4 out cost but if it is not then we need to make savings of 25%. or 25% plus loan repayments. The truth is that even 10% will not go far enough. The country must also increase tax by 3%. VAT has to go back up to 17.5 and unemployment needs bigger reform and layabouts need a boot up the backside. Anyway the point is that cuts have to happen and if all Labour can go on about is cuts then they will be the ones punished at the election. The people won’t believe a word of it. Also why should the Tories show their hand until Shit for brains calls a GE. In poker you never show your hand until the other side has committed themselves, unless of course you are bluffing and you are lying about what you have in your hand that is. No Osborne is right but don’t expect honesty from Labour they just don’t know how to tell the truth any more and that is why they will loose the GE.
Talking of conspiracies, Guido, what’s with the politicalbetting.com story that McBride’s back?
He never went away……
labour investment means more borrowing,it ain’t that hard to work out.
new labour couldn’t organise an orgy in a harem.
Too true, but they could build an orangery in a heartbeat with our money.
It’s a very difficult thing to do.
Imagine coming home to not one, but 72 angry wives. And _not one_ will let you shag her.
Bummer.
Well they are virgins!
Just had another thought – are they also Labour voters?
No they are not labour voters. Well, not directly. The family patriarch votes labour on their behalf for them.
Just bum the house boy as usual.
***Applause*** (excellent)
Ed “not much of a human being” Balls has just been on R4 lying his ass off. Apparently the raising of the inheritance tax threshold which he himself admits only applies to the 3000 richest estates is what is requiring the Tories to cut education spending by 10%.
cok-up
TMI Petey-poos!
I am trying to think of an occasion when someone from the Labour Party knowingly and deliberately told the truth.
I haven’t thought of one yet.
Maybe Guido should have a competition.
Frank Field – it’s why they hate him.
The Penguin
Agreed on Frank Field Penguin – hence imo and very sadly, he remains guilty by association with the rest of the den of vipers being steered by their serpent in chief mandlescum.
What about Kate Hoey?????
Frank Field – he got sacked by Tiny Bliar didn’t he? For doing just that?
His boss was Hatty Harperson..who was soooooooooo useless she was sacked by Bliar soon after Frank’s demise. She spent the next couple of years on the backbenches organising herself a job back onto the front benches by talking about ‘wimmins things’ . Patronising bitch. Her backer ? Gordy the Great.
Surely NuLab and truth is a oxymoron?
I can.
Peter Mandelson: “The whole cabinet is united against him.”
Nye Bevan – ‘There ain’t no fund’, admitting the national insurance fund didn’t exist, it is a tax funded Ponzi scheme.
Hey guys, it’s okay, this is par for the course. Awaiting the announcement by Brown later to hold an inquiry into the Iraq War but, erm not in public and not to be about the truth, rather to appease the labour MPs he ‘bought’ last week….nothing ever changes, everything remains the same….
Heared Sky over my shoulder say he was doing that at 15:30. Watch the terms of reference carefully and just let the wretched Hoon try to lock the doors. He’s in it up to his concreted nostrils.
A Hoon is a hoon. Don’t settle for pale imitations.
Just announced now, will be in private
nothing ever changes, nothing changes at all, the needle goes back to the start of the song and it all goes on like before.
I hope to God someone remembered to order extra whitewash.
It still won’t wash, we’ve moved on from believing these shysters. Brown is a war criminal like Blair and the rest. Good news is that there are moves to get Bushco on this and hopefully will rub off on Brown, etc. afterdowningstreet.org
I do hope so!
Isn’t that being a tiny bit racist – what about the blackwash?
Oops, hope I haven’t hurt anyone’s feelings with my racist remark – I apologise unreservedly (with fingers crossed behind back).
What do we call that stuff we used to call whitewash, now blackwash – or should it be ‘greywash’ – you know, the stuff used to cover up the lie of democracy and guvmints ‘doing the right thing’??
Is this why blackboards were replaced by whiteboards in so called “schools”??
Surely the relevant term here is Brownwash.
I once got bollocked by a Red Feminist Tutor(ette?) for referring to a “rubbish bag” as a “black bag”.
I will believe it will be an honest and open inquiry when an international arrest warrant is signed for one Mr Tony Blair and not a moment before.
Definitely conspiracy. Make sure that David Cameron becomes known as Mr 10% and Gordon must not be known as the incontinent one. Spin on.
You think they would have learned from the mauling Balls got this morning in the Guardian as he tried to peddle this line , wouldn’t you?
Talk about a load of parrots all reading from the same lie sheet.
Balls Up had a good kicking on the one o’clock news..
Good !!!! – hopefully it’ll teach him to tell the truth in future-but I doubt it.
Very unusual for Liebour to smear, is n’t it ?
I mean they would n’t just shriek ‘ Do nothing Party ‘, ‘Mr 10%’ or invent filthy lies about opponents’ private lives rather that engage in intelligent debate, would they ??
Minister twice over (science and defence) Lord Drayson had a pop at me (on Twitter) over suggestion he might be tapping scinece budget for his multi-million pound Drayson racing le Mans adventure …. was out of country for last week
@lorddrayson @JULIANBRAY No of course I did not “tap” the defence or science budget (as u put it) for my racing. #lemans #mpsexpenses
about 1 hour ago from TwitterFon
Anyone know different?
getting chilly in here….ho ho
I would have preferred he had taken the title ‘Lord Powderject’…..has a nicer £££££ring to it dontcherknow, after all, that’s why he’s where he is…..
At least you know he reads you.
Raced against Drayson. Pisses me off that I fund both his cars and mine.
Notice how much emphasis he places on his governmental position on his racing website. I’m just glad his ministerial responsibilities leave him enough time to play out with his cars.
Up against the competition of two billion people in emerging nations, India and China, with their huge resources and aspirations, we cannot afford to waste the talents of any person. Our aim in government must be to make the most of the abilities of every person and to create new opportunities in response to a changing world so that no one gets left behind and that everyone can share in the rising prosperity of Britain. Since 1997, Labour has made progress on the skills level of our nation. Today we have more young people at univeristy than ever before. And we have helped 1.7 million more adults gain literacy and numeracy qualifications.
There was no need to “help” 1.7 million adults if you hadn’t fucked up the education system in the first place.
New Labour : Education, Eduashion, Edukayshan
EdUcash-in even?
Ed U Cash On !!!
wrong, doesn’t explain Gordon Brown or the billions of pounds of debt we are in.
must try harder
http://www.buildingbritainsfuture.co.uk/
LOL!!!!
Splendid!
Brilliant!
Applause…….
Can I put in a request, Peter? I’d like to see that great photo of your friend Miilband and the Bananas for Britain campaign. Could you ask Gordon why he had his troser leg stuck in his sock upon arrival in washington. Is this a masonic thing? Thankyou.
As a Mason I can confirm that we do not stick our trousers in our socks ergo Gordon Brown is just a twat.
HAHAHAHA I had a good laugh, then I listened to Shady Malarkey and came back down to Planet Liebour with a bump.
One trouser leg in sock means he’s a rapper! Got to show he’s from the Hood, innit!
Then why are we in the poo?
Could it be that Labour put statistics and press releases ahead of the genuine needs of the citizens?
I don’t think the Labour emperor actually wears any clothes, but do appreciate that those with scales on their eyes see only the well tailored suit.
And we have helped 1.7 million more adults gain literacy and numeracy qualifications.
Which are worth the square root of naff all as your post amply demonstrates. “Univeristy” indeed…
What’s your degree in Charles? Media Studies or something equally worthless?
“What’s your degree in Charles?” Onanism!
“…helped 1.7 million more adults gain literacy….” so they can read zanuliebore propaganda in the lamestream media and follow their parents support for a party-gone-££££££BAAAAAAD.
Is that the same as teaching or is it because you failed to teach them in the first place?
Wouldn’t we all like to meet these highly qualified individuals then Charles, how about a small dinner party round your place??? Actually, it’s the same person 1.7million times init???
You are not in government Charles. You are a clag nut on the arsehairs of the crack addicted whore your self interested leaders pimped your parteh into.
Good day Charles.
univeristy?
QED, mate, QED.
And while we are at it, tell us a bit more about that competition from India and China. Go on, get off the NuLabour fact-sheet-for-the-clueless and give us some analysis on the competitive position and resources of China and India.
You are Liam Byrne in disguise and I claim my 10 renminbi.
And I want my free house and free car from Obamabum even though I didn’t vote for him cause I’m not a Yank.
That’s right, get a degree in Golf Course Management so you can carry the Chinese directors’ bags round the course for them.
Hardwig you deluded individual, “Today we have more young people at university than ever before.”
And today we have more of these same young people with university degrees looking desperately for any job they can get because of the dire mismanagement of the economy by your glorious dithering leader.
Graduates with £20K of debt working in McDonalds is really making “the most of the abilities of every person“.
Don’t forget that half the universities are in reality nothing more than polytechnics. NeuLabour think they can turn a corner shop into a supermarket simply by changing it’s title.
Correct, Spin Doctor.
They also think changing the name of the Jobcentre into ‘JobCentrePlus’ is a massive act of welfare reform.
All style over real substance, of course.
What a bunch of conniving, lying hoons.
That’s not relevant – what is relevant is that absolutely fewer students are studying genuine maths science and engineering subjects which might lead to wealth creation rather than to the expropriation and spending of other peoples’ money as per banksters and politicians and others of their ilk.
I’m actually thinking of converting my spare room into a university (well if it can be someone’s main home, what’s wrong with that?) and designing courses on moder day history of the UK – calling it ‘TheDay The Boat Went Down’
Charles, please tell us then, why your friends in government have stopped allowing academic subjects being taught at evening classes.
You can do a g.c.s.e. in nail technology ( god help us ) but not Eng Lit, history, geo, etc.
Come on Charles, why is that?
Do explain that one and then stop acting like the absolute pillock you are and go and find something useful to do!
Labour systematically remove people’s potential but never their aspirations. No body can do that. You’re right, you cannot afford to waste talent-you taxed us and borrowed to achieve that goal. The only way all britons will prosper is if you f-off and butt out of our lives. Give us a break.
obviously literacy has not rubbed off on you…
So what?
You wasted my taxes.
Today we have more young people at univeristy than ever before.
Any chance that is because there are more uni’s ( ex Poly’s, Tech college’s etc) more places, however you miss the point, the country needs SKILLS not NUMBERS holding dumbed down degrees.
# By 2015, Labour will raise the education and training leaving age so that every young person will be guaranteed an apprenticeship, training or a place to study at school or college up to 18.
# Labour has increased student grants so that one third of students will receive a full grant of £2,835, in total two thirds of students will receive a partial grant.
# To raise the aspirations of all young people, Labour will offer 250,000 16 year olds, who qualify for the Education Maintenance Allowance, a clear guarantee of the minimum level of maintenance grant and loan they will receive if they go to university or college.
and none of this improves quality of training/education etc.
TRANSLATION: We will spend billions of your pounds on irrelevant “training” and non-productive non-jobs to suckle the next generation of state-fed Liebour voters.
Real standards, real training and real companies can go to the wall.
Charles sweetie, In your haste to C&P from Labour’s own site you missed three off the bottom of the list.
Chas ducky
here’s the 1997 promises, readers may like to fetch a sick bag first or interpret the last paragraph as post-modernist irony
“Over the five years of a Labour government:
1. Education will be our number one priority, and we will increase the share of national income spent on education as we decrease it on the bills of economic and social failure
2.There will be no increase in the basic or top rates of income tax
3.We will provide stable economic growth with low inflation, and promote dynamic and competitive business and industry at home and abroad
4.We will get 250,000 young unemployed off benefit and into work
5.We will rebuild the NHS, reducing spending on administration and increasing spending on patient care
6.We will be tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime, and halve the time it takes persistent juvenile offenders to come to court
7.We will help build strong families and strong communities, and lay the foundations of a modern welfare state in pensions and community care
8.We will safeguard our environment, and develop an integrated transport policy to fight congestion and pollution
9.We will clean up politics, decentralise political power throughout the United Kingdom and put the funding of political parties on a proper and accountable basis
10.We will give Britain the leadership in Europe which Britain and Europe need
We have modernised the Labour Party and we will modernise Britain. This means knowing where we want to go; being clear-headed about the country’s future; telling the truth; making tough choices; insisting that all parts of the public sector live within their means; taking on vested interests that hold people back; standing up to unreasonable demands from any quarter; and being prepared to give a moral lead where government has responsibilities it should not avoid. ”
Just laughed my testicles off – new Balls please
By 2050 the school leaving age will have been raised to 69 and the pension age to 130.
#By 2010, more boxes on meaningless forms will have been ticked.
#More bureaucrats will have been recruited to check those forms to ensure the ticks are in exactly the correct place.
#Statistics to ‘verify’ that the data show ‘improving trends’ will be manipulated to create maximum obfuscation.
You really are a machine rather than a human being, aren’t you. I thought you had promised to fuck off and leave us alone, the last time a few of us gave you some stick. Another broker labour promise!
“Labour has increased student grants” – When I was at uni I got a full grant and didn’t have to go into huge debt. Mind you that was in the days before NuLabour came to power.
@ 300, too right, and they were means tested, almost fair, and you didn’t spend the first year covering the A level syllabus because the school did it, and there was value in your degree, and you were taught to fish, not just fed on crap, and..
Education
Education
Education
TRANSLATION: The dumbing down of exams and increased student numbers combined with the increase in disability benefit recipients has successfully hidden the structural increase in unemployment and slow collapse of our economy’s wealth generating capability.
Agreed. Any dumb idiot like me can saw that.
Oh for fucking fuck sake.
Guido, can’t you ban this hoon from posting. it’s not the utter shit he posts but the huge amounts of dumb-fucks underneath who believe he’s for real.
Well they did say that McBride was back :p
Right click / properties….http://www.labour.org.uk/
Looks kosher to me.
Don’t be daft.
Ah….I see.
What’s the point in going to university if not actually cut out for it – Labour have subverted the education system just like they do everything else in a pathetic attempt to spin. We’ve moved on from believing all this crap, as can be seen by the fact that more and more universities are now making applicants take their own entrance tests as they don’t have faith in our dumbed down education system.
If you want to swallow the party line and believe it all, that’s fine, but the rest of us actually have brains. All they’ve managed to do is make the education system a laughing stock. Seriously – how many employers, both at home and abroad do you think are not going to be skeptical when hiring people who gained degrees in the last decade? I know I will be.
They’re barely worth the paper the certificate’s printed on these days!
It’s just a shame that everyone I interview today can barely read or write to an adequate, professional standard.
You’ve only got to look at the “dumbing down” at the BBC to see the quality of graduates they have working there.
I didn’t think anyone worked at the BBC. I thought they all just ‘turned up’??
Quite. Their laughable attempts to pronounce C difficile are a case in point.
(Note for the terminally confused – difficile in this case is a Latin word and therefore a tetrasyllable. Duh.)
Funny thing is, education is something we can lay the blame squarely at the feet of the left – regardless of whether it’s the tories or labour in government, aside from those who attended public school, how many teachers who cared about politics did any of you have that weren’t left wing?
Well ,I’m one for a start .
I also used to teach beside two chaps who stood for the Conservative Party at General Elections while working in state schools .
Most management may be leftist yes-men , but we who actually teach sometimes think for ourselves .
Got to keep it relatively quiet , though .
“Today we have more young people at univeristy than ever before.”
Getting deeper into debt than ever before to gain a degree that is now worth LESS in the market place than ever before.
New labour’s education policies have been an unmitigated disaster for young people in this country.
Mr Ned,
Each Labour government has lowered the lowest common denominator, and then proclaimed success, feel sorry for any one who has had 12 years of Liebore Edjewkshun, slaves begging the Pharaoh for meaningless work to pay increasing taxes to pay for the Pharaoh and his entourage to live in ever more splendour, , and another thing, that creepy Piers Morgan should be shot. Countryside
+++breaking news+++
Iraq War result:
UK Lied Iraq Lost
Did anyone win?
Iran
USA firms who tendered for contracts.
BAE Systems and the rest of the merchants of death did very well indeed.
The Penguin
Arms manufacturers.
Sunglasses vendors in Aston Villa area.
Pashtun insurgents & drug warlords – kerching!!
Stephen Ladyman – Vice Chair of Labour Party!?!?! said
‘Instead he proposed a privately-held inquiry lead by a robust and independent figurehead. He also said he thought the inquiry would only confirm the findings of the Butler report.’
Well, what on earth he’s got to do with I don’t know but isn’t presupposing the outcome of that little scurmish a few thousand miles away with 1 or 2 chaffed thighs and a couple of blistered fingers a little bit diningenuous perrapppss?
Instead he proposed a privately-held inquiry lead by a robust and independent figurehead.
What’s Lord Hutton doing these days?
Get John Reid back maybe
I can’t believe those cretins are still taking themselves seriously – is it as simple as playing for time? waiting for the Irish to sign up to Lisbon?? = game set and match?
Is it that simple?
The Irish have heard it on the grapevine that a certain Mr Cameron is going to hold a referendum in the UK and let them off the hook.
Their referendum has now been postponed until after Mr Cameron has held his.
Would that were true!
Cambo better not back down…
All these problems within political parties about the EU – some MPs pro some sceptics….
It’s not hard – let the PEOPLE decide. Alright – there are some thickies that will vote the wrong way ( they voted Labour at the last general election) – but going on blogs everwhere the impression is most people in the UK know what is going on with the EU and have the right idea about how we should continue the relationship.
if Cameron backs down at all, he will be killing the tories far quicker than I could ever have hoped.
Labour are utterly finished and are a tiny hated fringe party just ahead of the BNP.
The tories are only taken seriously by a dwindling number of “mainstream” voters. Once Cameron caves in to his EU masters, the tories will be finished too.
The next election, therefore, ought to be used as the referendum on the EU as it looks increasingly like all the mainstream parties will let us down on this one.
IF Lisbon is passed into our law, then our Parliament becomes 100% irrelevant.
Away wid da fairies wid yer
Your source for this?
If Cameron backs down from a referendum his political career – and any integrity he may have had – will be destroyed forever.
From all the things he’s said so far, I don’t see cameron wanting to allow the population of britain to stick two fingers up at europe in unison.
Pretty good odds he’d get away with bottling a referendum I’d rekon.
Ask Kenneth Clarke old boy.
He seems to be running the show in the Conservatives European and Lisbon department and he just spilled the beans that the Tories are not going to do a damn thing about Lisbon but just meekly accept it.
Dave tries to make tough noises but he’s never convincing and in the case of Lisbon they are very far from the truth.
Ken Clarke likes a smoke and a drink, I admire that in a man although not a smoker myself.
Unfortunately he is a complete fuckwit when it comes to the EU.
Sub ed ‘running the show’ should read ‘ruining the show’ – hmm….
Surely any conspiracy concocted by this bunch of brainless twats will be a cock-up by default.
As usual they are picking on the ’small’ Conservative policy on inheritance tax which will play well to the deluded and benefit claimants, who are the only people who still vote for them.
They will only use the proceeds to pay debt interest – at least if the money is passed down to future generations to invest in the private sector, it will create more wealth and employment.
The only bright spot is that the Kinnochios will still get hammered for the tax – unless they have hidden their wealth somewhere in Europe!
Actually, the way to handle the IHT angle with the said deluded benefit claimants is to point out that if they win the Lottery (they are after all, the only ones buying tickets) Brown will take 40% of the pot in Death Tax.
What about special recovery tax for troughers? Have to grab the Kinnocks’ passports sharpish tho’. Now that’s one IR investigation I’d like to see.
I totally agree with a high level of scrutiny of the private tax accounts of politicians.
I think we should start the auditing of David Cameron and Gideon Osborne immediately. Both Dave and Gideon have arranged their affairs so they can make maximum allowance claims.
it shoud be checked to make sure that Dodgy Dave and even dodgier mate Gideon did not make false statements or make fasle representations in order to arrange their affairs in such a dodgy fashion.
those two dopey fuckers must have slipped up somewhere.
note to dave and gideon: you two wankers are millionaires so why the fuck are you claiming housing benefit you fucking skinflints?
people like you make me want to throw up.
you fucking pair of wankers. fuck off out of public like you fucking scrounging c’unts.
thankyou.
Given that many people are now beginning to understand Gordon’s disingenuous use of Labour’s projected ‘cash’ increases, unadorned by awkward things like inflation and interest payments on debt, Labour are playing a dangerous game flogging the idea that it is only Tories who might cut back on public spending.
Time Mr. Mandelson gave Brown a clip round the ear and told him what to do for the best.
Would that involve a bottle of whisky and a revolver?
Don’t you know it’s illegal to own a gun in the UK unless you are a criminal.
It is not the way to run the country. This should be debated, not by on or off the record briefings. Any issues over how the tax payers money is going to be spent should be debated at an election, give the electorate the facts and the truth (but I fear the truth will be in short supply when the glorious day arrives to decide).
How about debating it in Parliament?
Isn’t that what it’s for?
Will one of you chaps please give me a mass debate?
Do it yourself.
Aren’t the top 3,000 richest families now all Nu Lab types ?
Kinnocks…Shaun Woodward….Blairs…Lord Sugar of Tat etc.
And where does this magic figure of 3000 come from? And only families? So no individuals qualify? If this is inheritance tax they are banging on about, there are many more than this number with house and savings worth more than the limit (including 646 MPs too!), even allowing for the drop in house prices. I suppose it applies of course only to ‘posh’ areas, as Balls-Ache likes to call them.
No one seriously believes this pathetic rubbish. They can’t even lie convincingly now.
Check my maths. 3000 families times £200′000 equals £600million. NuLabia say this would equal 44′000 teachers, something like 25′000 Police, 10′000 soldiers plus 30′000 students places.
If it were just the 44′000 teachers then this would equate to each teachers costing us £13′636 per annum. Surely they cost more than that. And what about the police, soldiers and students. Do they cost fuck-all?
Another case of NuLabia being far from honest with stats. They miss a small two letter word like ‘OR’ a few times and then paint a completely different picture to reality.
These omissions are no mistake; they are all lawyers and know exactly that they are lying.
Damn right.
NuLiebore = Same Old Lies
The Penguin
Perhaps it was cancelled for good reason – the cappuccino temperature wasn’t just right or some poor slave forgot to line up the papers on the Ministers desk to the nearest 2mm as required by Ministerial Edict 4719/36/2009
Nice one. Liam Byrne – the epitomy of the Labour cabinet weasel. Arrogant, self-opinionated, egotistical and . . . short.
Hey, Liam, I work for you but this one goes out from an internet cafe you slimy little tyrant!
Liam Byrne – supporting LDV
LDV – Lap Dancing Videos?
Licking Dicks Vigorously
Lap Dancing Videos = Avid Dog Penis Clan
Never mind that, where’s my soup?
He’ll get a Department – the Department of Unemployment – at the next election with all the rest of the New Liebore hoons
Chef is sending down a tureen of the special Brown Windsor. Fill your boots.
Interesting how they always use the term investing when what we all know that they mean is spending. Investing is done to provide a return on capital spending isn’t.
Indeed:
Investing = Spending
Borrowing for day to day spending.
Spending OUR MONEY!!!!!
Bastards…
They’ve read 1984. It’s their manual for Government.
Worth reading Animal Farm first, shows you the way that ends with 1984
Have you read Mein Kampf?
Is that a recommendation? Piers blowing me a kiss, really revolting, why will this lead me to Burger King? Fast Food Nation worked on me
I have always told the truth, I have never told a lie in my entire life, that is absolute fact.
I tell the truth 10% of the time,
Thus I am Mr 10%!
sir, you are an imposter and i claim my 10 postal votes
Would I lie to you?
Not fucking much!!
Oh yes you did you little rotter, what about that great big whopper of a lie about an EU referendum then?
By God man, the lies coming from you are increasing excrementally!!
I would just like to reply to my previous reply by replying with this reply and that is and I want to make this quite clear, that, I have always said that honesty is the best and only policy at all times, I leave the lies and spin to the Tories as they are so good at it. If they have their way they will make such swingeing cuts that there will be no schools, no health service and you might find it difficult to get an NHS dentist.
Don’t say you haven’t been warned.
You lying, Lying, LYING, BASTUD!!
You double barrelled LYING BASTUD!!!
Need I remind you of the open government initiative coupled with the listening government initiative that I created and now you, the electorate, can be confident in the total honesty and integrity of every member of the New Labour government, unlike the Tories who tell you nothing but lies, saying they will make cuts here cuts there, but where is the money coming from for these very expensive cuts. No my friends, your future is safe with New Labour where we can always borrow some more money for new initiatives to stimulate the economy, the feedback from the voters at the recent elections was quite clear, that I as your Prime Minister should get on with the job of sorting out the current economic mess that America and the Tories got us into.
Right Gordon, answer me this then, how many millions of pounds is Tony Bliar bribing you with to push this country into a federal european superstate?
Fook off ya koont
At the recent D-Day landings, my very old friend, President Omaha, complimented me on my handling of the credit crunch, agreeing that the UK was in the best position out of all the EU countries to ride the storm due to the fact that I, as Chancellor and now as Prime Minister, handled the economy so well that borrowings are lower for the UK than any other EU country and that we are in the best position to recover from this worldwide recession and again lead the world in manufacturing exports, however there is no room for complacency and the need for closer union with the EU is obvious, well, to me anyway, the UK on its own would be like a boat in the middle of a stormy sea, with no power and no control, its demise imminent, greater union will create millions and millions of jobs for career politicians and that can only be a good thing, of course the decision to join had to be done by someone with a superior intellect such as myself, the electorate could not be trusted to make such a momentous decision as they do not have the mental capacity to do so, so it was obvious that I should make the decision for them.
You pretentious arrogant fucking fuck!!!!!!!!!!
You nasty little sod!
Good God man, your arrogance is breathtaking, if you were in front of me now I would let you have it with both barrels, you utter cad!!
Gordon Brown you are a *——- useless ——- pile of ——- —-!!!!
* insert expletives here and of course feel free to add some of your own.
Dear Mr 10% Browning Street, could it really be true, did you really remove the 10% tax rate for the lower paid, someone told me that you did so but I said no, that couldn’t possibly be so, that would be so utterly heartless of a labour government, they would never stoop so low.
Yours sincerely,
Agatha Crusty.
Dear Agatha, thank you for your communication and I can assure you that there has been no removal of the 10% tax rate, this is in fact a vicious rumour spread about by the Tories to try and discredit the New Labour party but I think that most sensible people will see through this Tory deception straightaway, the New Labour party would of course never be so callous as to take from the lowest paid workers as this is against our principles as I think you have probably realised.
Thank you again,
Gordon 10% Brown.
I am NOT arrogant
I am giving my jobby 110% of my time. The rest I am giving to good causes.
Not possibly cancelled, cos Labour have also realised the need for cuts in public spending?,
- though not to be inplemented or announced publicly until post election 2010.
Spin, spin and more mendacity from a bunch of shits.
This sort of thing is their forte and is old hat, everyone wants them out, so who cares if another briefing, to announce lies and spin and disinformation is cancelled.
We don’t care and will not believe anything this bunch of shysters say.
Death to the lot of ‘em.
OMG !!!
Years of Tory cuts v years of Derr-brained waste , er investment ????
Is The Pope catholic , honey ???
E x .
Only because they haven’t gone all pc in Italy. I’m surprised this lot here hasn’t demanded that the next archbishop of Canterbury must be Muslim
The BBC will do that for them.
The current one’s practically muslim.
The Penguin
Just being PC – you know how things are. Actually he’s a pagan Gaia-worshipping OMG climate change believer.
As for all that inter-faith dialogue stuff, it’s worth remembering that if you abstract your favourite bits from each religion, the result is not a religion, but only self-deluded humbug. As the only thing common to chalk and cheese is carbon and oxgen, that probably explains how the Archpagan of Canterbury achieves his profundity.
No, the Pope is German.
And ex-Head of the Inquisition.
Interesting thing abiout the BBC though, their Head of Religion is a Muslim.
Should be easy to cut at least 20% just by thinning out the overbloated public sector and changing all their pensions to money purchase
Keep up! They’re not cuts, they’re “tough choices” (c) Ed Balls
“My name is Balls, Ed Talking Balls” !
Ed – just like to point out you were completely gash again on R5 this morning.
“..why should only *Posh* areas have decent schools”. Nicky caught you again there didn’t he – ruffled your feathers and you fell back in to your class-war, against the Posh people. Have you learnt nothing from Crewe and Nantwich?
What did they teach you at your posh public school?
Oh and the throwaway-line about the 20/20 cricket was wooden too and thrown away by nicky Campbell. Useless!!
yes a man he who was educated at the independent fee paying
Nottingham High school would know all about ‘posh schools’.
what tragic hypocrite he is.
Doesn’t say much for Nottingham High School does it? Or maybe he was just a rubbish pupil.
i loved that knee jerk reference to “posh” areas!
even a nulabour beeb drone like campbell had to stop that one.
According to Nulabour anywhere that doesn’t have 60% dependency on the state, a majority of teenage mothers and 90% of families on tax credit/ DLA ( obesity allowance) / Incapacity benefit is officially “posh”.
http://www.buildingbritainsfuture.co.uk/
I just wish I’d got there first.
Brilliant.
Now they’ll have to start thinking all over again……
Good work, any ideas how the conspiracy can engineer getting into MSM?
Yes. Tell the truth on there fact by fact. Start with the press releases and ‘their’ policy and then decode it/translate it so average joe can understand. Well done.
Drudge report could be a good start.
“Hi! – I’m Peter, your host.
Gordon has asked me to write a few lines about our latest initiatives, and here they are (the lines that is, not the initiatives).” He would be involved in ‘building’ Britain wouldn’t he…..nudge, nudge, know wot I mean?
GORDON ASKED PETER??????? I think not. As for Peter calling himself ‘host’ – an unfortunate choice of word imo as it can refer to the Fallen Angels.
…reminds me of this Biblical quotation:
2 Corinthians 11:14
“And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.”
and this one:
Matthew 23:25
“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.”
In fact, Matthew 23 in its entirety perfectly describes such forked tongue liars and manipulators as zanuliebore and especially mandlescum.
Awesome – any chance of putting a few more pix of Mandleson on the FP?
I’m sure three isn’t nearly enough.
Nice… what a prize knute Malik is.
Looks like Balls jumped the gun then. Bit of infighting as to who gets “the message” out now ?
Nice to see you naming the Spokesman
…and better to still receive the lies and be able to publish, than receive them and have to abide by NuLiebour’s rules and regulations
Before I had studied Zen for thirty years, I saw mountains as mountains, and waters as waters. When I arrived at a more intimate knowledge, I came to the point where I saw that mountains are not mountains, and waters are not waters. But now that I have got its very substance I am at rest. For it’s just that I see mountains once again as mountains, and waters once again as waters.
You need to add more mountain to your drinks.
I regret to say that we are fresh out of mountains and waters in Wokingham.
We do have BMWs and road congestion, however, and over a period of thrity years I have arrived at a pretty intimate knowldge of these.
Will that do, Chews?
Cock up probably. We are on Labour’s lobby list but didn’t receive that particular invite.
If I didn’t know any better I would have said Mandy’s annonced (pun alert) a General Election for July!
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/labourparty/McBride-39back-working-for-government39.5364066.jp
Talking of spin….. Is Mcbride back working for Govt?
Guido…What do you know?
Dave should take on the mantle.
“I am Mr 10% … 10% tax cut!”
I would like to hold a free piss up at the brewery I own, and I wonder if the labour party would be interested in trying to organize.
I don’t have time to do this as I’m slightly worried by The Conservatives 10% spending cuts, and am thinking of leaving the country.
If we all ignore them, they might just go away…
Im Gordon 15% Brown
15% of the popular vote
Gordon 0% surely….
The man who is an unelected PM !
Soon to be Mr 20% Vat.
Will that be in Euros?
15% of the 34% who turned up.
In other words, 5.1% of the available electorate.
We must be wary of Serial Liars. No reality exists for them and they are rarely aware that every word flowing from their lips is an untruth.
Serial Liars feed upon the weak, maul the good and exploit the want-to-be-liked , the truth doesn’t matter to their syncophants.
(Extract WordPunk- David A Boles)
This government is full of serial liars, aka psychopaths. Liam Byrne, Gordon Brown and Peter Mandelson are the worst of a very bad bunch.
Ed Blinky Balls just went up the liar parade on R4, what a horrible child
http://www.labourlist.org/is_mcbride_back#comments
There are at least two sociopaths in this government. One is Gordon Brown and the other is Liam Byrne.
No wonder Brown is said to like Byrne. They are fellow weirdos.
Brown usually only goes for cute-faced pouting young men not ugly slapheads like Byrne.
“You mean like me!”
McBride is back!
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/3698313/is-mcbride-back.thtml
So when is a sacking not a sacking? When NuLiebour are involved.
who’s the slaphead taking the piss out of Penfold?
Ed Balls gets ripped a new @rsehole by hundreds of angry Guardian readers….
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jun/14/labour-tories-policies
LOL They really hate his guts!!
Flipping heck…
Never thought I’d ever read comments in the Guardian as hostile as that about NuLieBore.
They’re all Tory Trolls. Every single one of them. Apparently.
Perhaps that why Laim was dithering about calling this Press Conference to put across the same message.
And whilst we are talking about spending cuts – aren’t I right in thinking that the Chancellor, in his last budget, said there would have to be spending cuts after the next election – 2011??? or did I dream that???
Newlabour are all suffering from verbal diarrhoea, and ed balls had a particularly bad
attack on ‘World at One’ radio 4, in his interview with m gove just now.
I finished up laughing at Balls’ effort to dominate the discussion. What a loud-mouthed little prat he is. Pity it wasn’t a presenter with some spine.
He went on the same media training course as his wife… emit an unending stream of verbal diahorrea while anyone else is talking. They really are managing the same level of loathing once given to the Cecescus.
Ha ha ha – not much love for Liebour, even the Grauniad readers think they’re a bunch of cnuts now.
Those comments might as well be on this page, not a single one on the first page has anything positive to say – kudos to the Grauniad site mods for allowing the will of the people to be represented :-)
Facking hell… thats a right facking savaging he’s got there and no mistake.
Blimey. Never would have believed it of the Grauniad.
Who gives a fucking shit about embargoe’s?
Since when did these twats deserve consideration?
Seems like they have a lying completion at Nu Labour strategy meetings:
Pig-faced Nu Labour polytechnic retard #1: “Let’s say the Tories are going to hack the arms off the babies of the poor to make dog food for their hounds.”
Pig-faced Nu Labour polytechnic retard #2: “Yes, and let’s say the Tories are going to pass a law to allow people to tie kittens to sticks and use them as mops.”
Pig-faced Nu Labour polytechnic retard #3: “Indeed, and let’s say we are the party of investment and hope.”
Pig-faced Nu Labour polytechnic retard #4: “Fuck off – - Nobody will swallow that shit, but we could change or name to ‘Nu Labour Foundation Trust’.”
if no cuts how much are our taxes going to rise?
this is 1978 all over again.
how sad.
Maybe we have peaked and starting the journey back, the evidence is all around us;
changing pension age
Devolvement , (except for the English)
Wall street crash not far away
Less and less democracy
Nice day to pick some strawberries and a chilled Parsnip wine with lunch
Dear All,
Although I do not associate with the Nu Labour Party, one is compelled to agree with them of the folly and greed of the Tories in advocating cuts in essential services performed for the benefit of the leanest, frailest, weakest and poorest in our community to aid the privileged, established rich.
The nights of prodigal, riotous dissipation are sure to return for Dave “Heir to Blair” Cameron, yet we shall be funding his psychedelic raves and our children will suffer the resultant mismanagement of the nation.
Ha! But he, and his snivelling, pasty, foppish dogsbody George Osborne are mad if they suppose Britons will surrender blindly.
The people of all of Britain, especially those in Cameron’s constituency in Oxfordshire, deserve much better.
Fortunately, the SNP intends to field a candidate there, one who has real experience of life having served a trades union and mingled with the workers beside the coal face.
Hooray!
The people of Witney need a better MP and someone willing and capable of delivering CHANGE to an area depressed with capitalist affluence and middle-class English contentment. Ha!
Yours sincerely
George Laird
The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University
Fuck off, you pompous prick.
George,
if it is SNP policy to fight MPs with scottish ancestors I can live with it. Pity you didn’t do it with that numpty Blair
Dear Ego Girl, you are simply an anagram, now fuck off
North sea Oil – the pride of England
I fail to understand how a member of the SNP can serve the needs of Witney Oxfordshire – or is that by chance a far off constituency on the Isle of Skye? It’s true though to say that politicians can bend any which way.
George,
What is your job or official standing at Glasgow University – or are you a student at Glasgow University? If you are a student, what are you studying?
Media Studies or Golf Course Management probably.
Out of interest George, where does your funding come from……?
Anyone connected with the Human Rights Gravy Train will no doubt stick up for NuLabour.
Ultimately form the taxpayer.
It was a rhetorical question – my point was, he’s a turkey, and therefore he ain’t gonna vote for Christmas.
Now is the time to be straight about cuts.
Middle England wants cuts! It wants to see the nasty medicine administered to the fat lazy white people.
Middle England – by which I mean the majority who didn’t have a job created for them and wont benefit from the ‘mass theft’ that is public sector pensions – want to see some balance restored.
Slash and burn please and some napalm if you’ve got it!
Good afternoon Eileen,
I have just heard Mr Gove & Mr Balls on Pravda WATO.
Pravda may as well have but up to carbon copies of the same insipid political elites.
The only difference between Neo Labour & Neo Tories is the colour of the rosette.
Niether party is capable of honesty – it is outside of their sphere of understanding.
I hope they keep up that awful childish banter for the next year – hopefully the electorate will kick the hell out of both of them for putting us through it & insulting our intelligence.
Gove. Balls – you are one in the same & none of you “get it”.
O/T
Govt/media propaganda: UK best-placed within Europe for economic recovery.
Truth: according to govt’s own stats Britain trades in deficit with all significant countries with the exception of USA and Eire – two countries in as big a mess as Britain. Any recovery will skyrocket trade deficit further, as UK consumes rather than produces.
No shit sherlock
Interesting. So the government is cutting public spending by seven per cent year n year for the next three years (Brown denies it, of course) but hope no one will notice. Instead, they attack the Conservatives for supposedly wanting to cut spending from 2012 onwards. That is assuming we have an economy left, of course…
Fuck it, why don’t they accuse the Tories of wanting to invade Iran in 2013 as well? I am sure someone, somewhere will believe them.
I think the apposite word here is ‘chutzpah’.
When Labour proposes spending reductions, they are called ‘efficiency savings’; when the Tories do the same, they are classified as ‘cuts’.
lol, off topic but the BBC are now complaining about Iranian censorship.
I decided to leave them a nice comment, very much doubt it’ll remain though…
“I do find it highly ironic that the BBC is claiming to offer a free and impartial service to the Iranians when here in the UK they are far from free and clearly not impartial.
Maybe what we need in the UK is Iranian satellite programs being broadcast to the UK citizens in order that the UK can be informed of how their Government are lying to them? We certainly can’t expect the BBC to tell us the truth when they are so obviously biased towards the Labour Party that political debates effectively become a Party Political Broadcast because the BBC commentators refuse to argue with Labour spokespersons.
I fully expect this to be moderated by the way.”
I agree with you, absolutely. I don’t think the BBC are always in favour of Newlabour, they just like to stick with the establishment, terrified of rocking the
boat, terrified of dissention, of mavericks, of anything that would in any way
threaten their cosy little well-paid lives.
No – they are whores to the NuLabour experiment.
Any sensible government would have cut them adrift years ago to survive on their own.
Remind me again why we have to pay for something like BBC 3 or BBC Alba?
What’s the next “hit” programme? The Mark Oaten experience? Witchcraft for Beginners with Peter Mandelson? Monkey Tennis?
It’s called Press TV and is available on SKY.
If Cammo had a decent bone in his body, the first thing he would do is to make the beeb earn their money in the real world the same way their rivals do.
At the very least he’d pass laws allowing us, the great unwashed, to opt out if we want to – I pay a monthly subscription for Sky, and I would quite happily make do with just the non BBC channels they provide me with. If the BBC is as wonderful as they claim, let the public decide for themselves whether they want to buy their scams…. oops, sorry, I meant services.
The current way the BBC is run is nothing short of a protection racket – “buy our product, we don’t care if you use them or not, but if you don’t pay up, we’ll send you to prison”. An absolute disgrace.
Nice to see Balls making a mess of things on the world at 1
There will be no cuts in education but there will be efficiency savings. So when your classroom has 45 pupils or your lecture theatre 500 students remember that fact.
Ergo in Zanuliebore Propaganda Dictionary 2,359th edition:
the word ‘cuts’ now replaced by ‘efficiency savings’. Nice one. Figures.
But only when the’re Liebour cuts – Tory cuts must still be referred to as such.
On the Sky chatette I saw he said at one point, “We have to be leaner and DEFTER…”. Ffs!
Dafter maybe….
“… the world at 1″. Thanks for that. The BBC should now refer to that program as “TWATO”.
OT ISIHAC on tonight 6:30 R4.
Or, for delicate sensibilities like those at Pravda, t’WATO.
And Guido, FFS, get that piece of Burger King meat consigned somewhere, anywhere – seems they confused you with one Gay Fawkes and his b’log.
If Labour wants efficiency savings – stop all MP’s expenses and make them live within their means like the rest of us have to.
Perhaps when they’ve had a bit of practice at that, it will give them an insight into how to run their government departments economically!!!!
Labour will ensure efficiency by maximising the number of people in government who are married to, co-habiting with or the offspring of other people in government. Expect Sarah Brown, Jack Dromey and David Mills to get peerages any day now to complement the Testicle twins and the Kinnock family .
The whole election campaign will be based on a big lie: that the evil tories will “cut 10%” but, yes, you guessed it, The Glorious Leader will borrow yet more money and there will be NO CUTS in public services.
This, of course, is baloney; a ploy straight out of the Joe Stalin book of political methodology.
Labour will have to make cuts beither voluntarilly or when the IMF comes in to sort out the mess that socialists traditionaly make of the economy.
It’s about time Cameron grew some balls and came out fighting: he wants to be seen as Mr Moderate but the Bunker press machine will cack all over him if he doesn’t get stuck in and start kicking ass.
Start talking the talk Cammo – the population needs some leadership, we’re fed up of being lied to and patronised by this bunch of NuLabour shysters.
Agreed – Cameron needs to grow a pair, the country wants big cuts and wants them now.
Start with all the non-jobs in the public sector – all the diversity outreach co-ordinators earning 50 or 60k a year, let’s make sure that the NHS has more doctors than managers and cull half of the useless fuckng quangoes that rape the taxpayer for billions.
After that, look at local government, they are even worse offenders than Whitehall.
I have never seen a picture of a labour party spokesperson standing next to a dog turd. I wonder if it because labour spokespersons are somehow transmogrified dog turds?
I apologise to all genuine dog turds out there that are capable of representing some form of truth even if it is just being a genuine dog turd; but the labour party has taken away my faith in being able to trust a dog turd to be just a dog turd. Unadulterated putrescence is now indistinguishable from anything that speaks up for the labour party.
Can we please not have a general election until 2010 so we can all bang on for many years about 13 years of labour misrule. Is this a dim echo from history?
I dont normaly rite to blogs but you lot are beein terribly meen about ed BAlls and our unyversities and educatuion.
I have a bysiness studies degree from the unyversity of rill and it is very useful for my new job at berger king
so there
and my leturer, denis mucbride, told me never to vote torie becus they would cancel my corse
Another well-educated result of newlabour education policy. Eh Wot?
Give em a chance. They’ve only been in ten years. Just wait another six years and then you’ll really see the result of their education system when all the sixteen year old school leavers (NuLiobore experiment) descend on the job market!
I haf GCSE in Knife Crime an a deegree in MP3 downlowdeen, innit?
You don’t sound like a WASP to me…
PFI unfunded
Public Sector Pensions unfunded
And both the leading parties are protecting the criminal corruption of DFID?
Our country is facing unprecedented fiscal hardship – ring fencing money to suppotrt the market share of Kalashnikov & Mercedes Benz in Africa via DFID is immoral.
No matter what that unelected crusty millionaire Geldof says.
Not forgetting his twin separated at birth – Lord Bono.
Don’t we have enough corruption here that we need to fund it in Africa?
The Penguin
Oh for crying out loud!!!
Of COURSE there will have to be cuts in public spending which ever party is in power!
Labour have stuffed things so comprehensively that they will have to make cuts whatever they say. When the tories get back in next year they too will have to make cuts to start to get the economy back into some semblance of order.
So what’s the big deal?
Does anyone believe that the tories will cut only to benefit the rich?
Does anyone believe that labour will not have to make cuts?
Why don’t these pathetic people stop trying to outdo each oteher in the media and just get on with running this godforsaken country?
My guess is that the Public Sector will take a hit once Cameron gets in. Natural wastage (retirement and voluntary redundancy), followed by forced redundancy.
Well, we can all hope so.
and a public sector strike I shouda imagine. That is why we needed a different government/party in anext. One that we all can rally behind and makea work. A party of government who leads. One for all and all for quim
I’m a quim!
Just get rid of all the hangers-on.
Labour investment! I think that my dog could invest MY MONEY better than any socialist. Desperately needed cuts save our money from being frittered away by bloated bureaucracies on cockeyed schemes, not one of which has worked. What about ‘no benefits whatsoever to anybody at all until they have been contributing to the tax system for a minimum of five years’. Works in chaotic old Italy.
I was so disappointed that the Army didn’t shoot the whole bloody lot at the trooping of the colour ceremony
I’m glad stories like this come out. I hate NuLab with a passion and am chuffed to bits that they haven’t changed one bit following the Gorgon’s rebirth.
If they fight the GE with something as stupid as this, then they will be toast.
Everyone knows cuts are needed (and indeed planned by the Stasi) and this scaremongering just isn’t going to wash.
It shows how NuLab still hold the electorate in contempt as despite their “investment” in education over the last 12 years, they think the public will fall for this playground style of politics.
Note to NuLab: Change your tactics or never gain power again.
On a more positive note, the Government have reported semen production has increased 300%.
Can you please use a larger font?
*applause*
Getting quite tied up in knots aren’t they?
A significant little development on “The World at One”. After initially evading the question, Ed Balls eventually conceded that spending could be maintained only subject to “efficiency savings” and the level of interest repayments. Prudence would therefore dictate that cuts should be budgeted for NOW. It will be instructive to see whether the lie about “cuts” can be sustained through the next ten months. Of one thing we can be sure of: there won’t be another Budget before the next election.
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This just in:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/bruno_waterfield/blog/2009/06/15/den_dover_owes_the_taxpayer_538290
“efficiency savings”
But you still spunk away the same amount of my money??????
Good job that apart from sales tax you aint getting any of it you total fucking Ball bag
If reducing public expenditure is a good thing, why are the Conservitudes so coy about it?
10% is not coy
On Andrew Lansley, Conservitude shadow health spokesman said that the National Health Service, Education and Overseas Devlopement would not be cut and would have continued increased expenditure.
“We have said, and remain committed to, real terms growth in NHS expenditure,” said Lansley.
Since then the Conservitude muppets and puppets have dribbled past and phlegmed on Education and Overseas Development.
What’s their flippy floppy position now?
Perhaps you can explain how £45 billion per annum paid on the national debt is “investment” ?
What’s their flippy floppy position now?
What’s NuLabs?
Have a look at the last red book MB, particularly 2011 onwards, when NuLab are forecasting real term cuts of 7% per annum.
Your beloved leader assumes the public are thick and that the tame MSM can be relied upon to peddle his misinformation – but the worm seems to have turned.
Perhaps you can explain how leaving schools and hospitals to rot is raitonal. Perhaps you can explain how it came to be that France and Germany have a far superior physical infrastructure than the UK? In the opinion of most economists and historians it is because the UK suffered 18 years or more of underinvestment that the current government has started to address. Perhaps you can explain why UK infrastructure in the form of energy, transport and water is owned in large parts and run by French and German government owned enterprises?
In answer to your question, it is cheaper than the proposed Conservitude alternative, which is to cut spending in a recession which would lead to a greater economic collapse and cost the tax payer more in the long run.
MB
try this from the 1997 NuLab manifesto:
“we will modernise Britain. This means knowing where we want to go; being clear-headed about the country’s future; telling the truth; making tough choices; insisting that all parts of the public sector live within their means;”
or maybe not
Because the topic is complex and the press and Beeb (particularly the Beeb) can’t be arsed to research the subject and engage in mature debate – they are just after a headline to sell tomorrow’s paper or justify the license fee.
The MSM is, IMHO, as much to blame for the mess we find ourselves in as NuLab.
They took it easy propping up the bars and waiting for the press releases to arrive instead of doing a proper journalistic job.
So all this new enthusiasm for “investigative journalism” sticks in my craw (although it has been fun watching them all squirm).
Most developed countries have far higher government debt (national dabt) as a percentage of GDP, than the United Kingdom.
Check it out at the IMF, if you don’t believe it.
Perhaps you can explain how £ 10 million spent on the Kinnocks is investment ?
Fiddled figures, ignoring bank bail out and PFI.
The Penguin
Groundhog day alert
Public sector pension deficit and PFI
I am glad for you that you are happy at the exponential increase in national debt and the threat to the UK’s credit rating already hinted at by S&P
If Labour is so intent on bankrupting the country why are they so coy about it ?
Umm the point is that the narrow stupid corner grocer’s view of economics is the one that led to the investment shortfall the present government has had to repair. The Conservitudes literally let the roof rot on hospitals and schools. Allowing your physical plant to decay is not sound economics, in the long run it’s the expensive option. Without a well educated and healthy work force the nation’s economy cannot compete effectively.
Deferring capital investment has a cost. A lack of investment slows the potential for economic growth. Cuts are not a good thing.
Perhaps you can expalin how spending £ 1 billion + for a NHS computer system that doesn’t work is “investment”?
Only if you can explain why General Motors, once the largest corporation in the world went bust and is now state controlled having run up debts of $196 billion now underwritten by the US taxpayer.
Is that all part of the amazing effects of free enterprise?
Privatise the profits and socialise the losses, another great scam.
Cuts are a necessity bearing in mind that NuLiebour have run the ship of state clean onto the rocks. In that position you start bailing bloody fast and not adding even more water. Now that the next generation has been saddled with truly eye-watering debt it is time to call a halt and dismantle, as quickly as possible, McBust’s bloated client state. If nothing else he’s proved that big government doesn’t work, just as big management in a business is a recipe for disaster. Even my dog worked out a long time ago the economic madness that has so damaged this country.
From what you write your dog is brighter than you but wrong.
It is not a good thing but a necessity. It is a good thing however if it clears out the hoards of council employed carpet dwellers who idle away their time and taxpayers money surfing the internet, simultaneously dunking biscuits into their cuppas, on chat rooms, message boards, blogs and the like.
Are you against necessities?
Only if they’re tampons for male MPs. How’s Phil ?
Ask George Laird
Now don’t get too bitchy Guido that you get nothing from Labour Press Office.
You can always cry on my shoulder
So you’re another Handleson are you, Charles?
Not quite as my preference is for “rough trade” but Guido seems to be a sweetie to me
Good to see the nulab insiders have seen through the bollux at last and are prepared to cooperate in their removal , by publicising their more outrageous lies and deceits.
I look forward to the peoples broadcaster running this story.
Gordon said he was going to change and likes to be honest, the recent exchanges with regard to public spending show this is not the case. CARRY ON LYING, GORDON.
So an opportuntiy to identify which type of liar Gordon is? Would you like to classify each member of Gordon’s cabinet or any one in the Labour party come to that.?
Liars can be classified in many different ways: according to the nature of lie, the size or seriousness of the lie, the subject of the lie, the victim of the lie, the occasion of the lie, the frequency of lying, the results of the lie, the apparent external cause of the lie, the internal cause of the lie, the occupation, setting or occasion for the lie, or any other factor associated with the lie.
1.Pathological liars: “Many of us have dealt with people who frequently, if not perpetually, lie to us. People who lie constantly, and often for no apparent reason, are known as pathological liars. They have an intense need for people to like them, but their lying keeps people at arms’ length. In this sense they are self-destructive because others decide the liar is more trouble than he is worth.
Some pathological liars are not content with merely telling a lie. They go a step further and actually live a lie (2 Thess. 2:11), sometimes even adopting a completely different identity and living it out as if it were truth. They may pose as physicians, lawyers, rock stars, heroes, etc. The major payoff to these individuals is a boost to their self esteem. According to a survey of 72 cases, one-third of pathological liars adopt fake identities, as recorded in the medical literature over the course of a century.
2.”Occasional liars. “Occasional liars, which most of us are, really don’t like to lie, but they’ll do so every now and then to avoid an unpleasant situation or because they don’t want to admit doing something wrong or embarrassing,” Mazzarella explains. Because they feel uncomfortable lying, they’ll usually reveal their lies through their appearance, body language and voice.
Frequent liars. Frequent liars know lying is wrong, but it doesn’t make them as uncomfortable as the occasional liar. For this reason, they are more likely to lie regularly and are less likely to reveal lies through their appearance. However, because they are more comfortable lying, they do not pay as much attention to the consistency and logic of their statements.
3.Habitual liars. Habitual liars are fairly uncommon. These are people who have difficulty separating fact from fiction and who say whatever comes to their minds no matter how exaggerated, ridiculous, illogical or untruthful it may be. A good example is the 25-year-old who brags about his many worldly adventures, even though in reality he would have to be 80 to have accomplished all that he talks about. Habitual liars lie so frequently that they never show physical discomfort, but they are so sloppy with content that they are easy to catch.
4.Professional liars. “These are the hardest to identify,” Mazzarella says. “They don’t lie indiscriminately, like the habitual liar. They lie for a purpose.” These are people like the mechanic who routinely cons motorists about their faulty transmissions, or the realtor who explains that ceiling stains are the result of “old damage from a water leak in the attic,” as opposed to a leaky roof. Professional liars have thought their lies through and know exactly what they’re going to say and when. Because the lie has been practiced so often, it will not be revealed by the liar’s voice, body language or appearance. The only way to catch professional liars is by checking their statements against an independent source.”
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You forgot fucking liars.
Oh and lying bastards.
They may pose as physicians, lawyers, rock stars, heroes, etc.
Prime Ministers?
how about the Scottish, surely they should be included as a group
Well,I for one am glad that this whole “Tory Cuts/Labour Investment” thing has come out at last.
If Cameron gets his act together,he can seal the Labour lie forever..as long as he tells the absolute truth about his own spending policy.
I believe the Public are now ready to hear about cuts in some areas, in order to preserve the most essential services,and the Tories,by being honest, can capitalise on Labours lies and deceit.
The last thing on Earth that Brown, Balls et al want is an honest debate on this..because their figures just don’t add up,and they will be slaughtered when the truth of their sleight of hand is exposed.
Transparent Government?…..Brown couldn’t be transparent if he was the Invisible Man!
“Cameron get his act together” Like on the Lisbon Referendum.
The discussion is about spending you fucking twat…if you want to talk about the Lisbon Treaty..please feel free to do so.
..and more fucking Labour lies will be exposed.
Ken Clarke is the Conservitude shadow spokesman for business and so on, he said the Conservitudes position is that if the Irish accept the Lisbon Treaty there will be no UK plebiscite on it.
Welcome to Europe.
Or not.
Conservitudes talk out of both sides of their mouth because they rely on many lunatics for support.
Baiter..talk spending cuts will you!
If you can’t bring yourself to do this then how about…
Where’s your lots’ fucking referendum on the Lisbon Treaty?
What’s the real truth about the Treaty?
Why was fucking Brown so reticent to attend the signing of it?
C’mon waster..give us your best shot!!
Prick!!!
First Draper now you – what is it NuLab have against the mentally ill ? Oh yeah Boredom Brown
So Basket, the discussion is about spending, but not about honesty.
Umm The UK has accepted the Lisbon Treaty as has every other member country excedpt one, only Ireland is left, they’re in tatters and remember what it was like to live only on taters, they’ll tow the line.
So what was the issue with Ken Clarke MP (Con)?
Oh yes no plebiscite if the Irish ratify the Lisbon Treaty, pretty straight forward really.
That is unless you’re a lying, frothing, swearing, bone headed, pimple brained, Conservitude of the type that has an eye staring in to the blank empty spaces that are the area behind the eyes of Madshipman Dananan Hananan and his ilk.
Get over it, losers.
Anon….
“So Basket, the discussion is about spending, but not about honesty”
As you left out a question mark,I’ll assume that you’re not honest..and still decline to actually talk about spending cuts.
It seems that unless you can spout Labour HQ scripts you cannot comment as you have no original thought.
Useless brain dead Prick
Baiter…
Have all other EU members ratified the treaty?
No. The Czech Republic, Germany and Poland have yet to do so.
The Czech lower house approved the treaty on 18 February and the upper house (Senate) did so on 6 May. But Czech President Vaclav Klaus, a Eurosceptic, is against the treaty and has not yet signed it.
Poland’s President Lech Kaczynski has refused to sign the treaty for the time being, calling it “pointless”. He says he is waiting for the Irish question to be resolved.
In Germany, despite parliamentary approval, the constitutional court is studying the treaty to judge whether it conflicts with the German constitution.
So…what’s your point?
If you actually opened your eyes whilst tossing yourself off,you might find that your dick is actually up Browns rectum.
Arsehole… (no pun intended)
You should practice reading a bit more, especially the thread under 274.
Only the Irish plebiscite stands in the way of ratification. So what are the Conservitudes going to do then?
Split probably.
Baiter @373 & 374…
What the fuck are you on about,and what the fuck are you on?
Referring me to your own ridiculous thread,which is btw utter drivel,is desperate stuff indeed.
Where’s your answer to the Lisbon Treaty?…tell me why Germany and Poland haven’t got it through yet?
Just ignoring legitimate questions highlights your own ignorance..and weakness.
Fxxking obnoxious, lying,arrogant marxist c x x t. I tried to think of a better description of Liam Byrne but gave up.
BEAST :
if you read this, do not click the link to The Sun story, they have that picture of the chipmunk on the front page – the one with the shinny waxy face, that so inflames your desires and makes you think unwholesome thoughts.
Yes. I had to rush out and fire up the barbecue. Then to the kitchen to knock up a marinade. Arghhh, those chipmunks.
However, I don’t think Guido wants me to post, as I get a Burger King hunk with my comment box. Not at all to my taste. In fact, I find it quite disturbing.
I wouldn’t worry to much about ed balls. He is out in the cold, and there will be no way back. manyboy of bum will ensure.
Cold Balls,eh?
No wonder Manhandleboy has it in for him (or not..whatever ????)..there can’t be much to get hold of.
How dare all of you. I arrive at work at 3pm and my coffee isn’t already on the table. My highly-paid team of civil servants haven’t even got my soup ready. They will take the blame for this.
Now, please explain your problems in less than 60 seconds because I’m a very important man and clearly better than you.
Bloody working class.
You’re my problem – now fuck off
Only 10 seconds
The one cut that is needed is a reduction in the figure the taxpayers of this Country have to shell out each day on interest payments just to service the mountain of debt created by the one and only Gordon Brown.
Most households have had to rebudget in these trying times brought down on all our heads by Gordon Brown. The sensible thing for many has been to reduce their debt levels, firstly on credit cards, bank overdrafts, bank loans and if at all possible on the size of the Mortgage.
This has led to the recognition for many that if out of every £100 spent £20 of it goes on feeding debt but not reducing it, then they are effectively suffering a 20% loss in services or value for money.
That is what is happening to the Country as a whole under Labour now and will continue and possibly worsen every day Gordon and his imbecile finance ideas continue to be practised.
We need a change of Government now, to save us from these cuts in services brought about by a financially inept Labour Government.
Guido, if you do get a press release from Labour, you better be fucking careful about opening it.
How!
Labour are in a complete mess about how to respond to the Conservative spending strategy – hence why their briefings are on again/ off again, and why their spokesmen are in disarray.
The Times leader today was insightful and amusing:
Gordon Brown’s attempt to suggest that Labour plans investment while the Conservatives plan cuts is bizarre. More than that, it is jaw-droppingly dishonest. Labour has a new campaign, dubbing David Cameron Mr 10 Per Cent (because he intends to cut spending by 10 per cent, geddit? My, how we laughed). The party’s website lists imaginary cuts the Conservatives might have to make. But nowhere is it explained that the figures come out of Labour’s own Budget plans. In other words, it is a political first – Labour’s website provides a scorching attack on its own policy. If Mr Brown continues in this vein, then perhaps he too will soon be Mr 10 Per Cent, that being his party’s opinion poll rating.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article6499037.ece
Breaking news – Iraq enquiry to be held in private. More whitewash ordered.
O/T – but for pity’s sake please remove the picture of a pouting Piers Moron – I feel physically sick every time I see it and it’s also upsetting the dog.
Careful by the looks of things, he’s most likely a very good friend of the Dark Baron!
Figure taken from the RED BOOK that accompanied LIEBOURS BUGET 2009
Brown’s cuts
Fraser Nelson 6:52pm
From the Spectator Friday 12th June 2009
In a mature, truthful debate (which Brown feels confident he will avoid) the question should be: who would cut what? So I have gone through Labour’s cuts dossier—which assumes all cuts hit frontline services—changing the wording (from “the Tories are” to “Brown is”) and the figures so they correspond to Brown’s planned 7 percent cuts post-2011 as opposed to the 10 percent cuts which Lansley spoke about post-2011. Everything else is the same.
* Schools: Brown is planning to take £3.6 billion out of education spending, the equivalent of losing 30,891 teachers, and 24,140 teaching assistants and school support staff.
• Police: Brown is planning to take £650 million out of the Home Office. Cutting police funding by the same 7 per cent as the rest of the Home office could see the loss of 10,500 police officers – exactly the number of extra police officers delivered from Labour’s record investment since 1997. That’s nearly 21 off the beat in every constituency across England.
• University places: Brown is planning 7 per cent across the board cuts for public spending. That could mean cutting the number of places available each year by 22,400.
• Defence: Brown is planning to cut 7 per cent from the defence budget – the equivalent of cutting 7,000 soldiers, and a further 5,600 members of the armed forces from the Navy and Airforce. That’s almost double the number of troops the UK has in Afghanistan.
Will this get censored … Bee eN Pee
don’t you get the message?
you are not welcome here you retard.
now fuck off.
oh, and even if you do have a receipt there will be no refund for you because you are such a c’unt!
I see what this ‘extra £655million for 16-18 year olds’ that Mr Testicle really is; it is the money that the government had to find to replaced the silent cuts they made earlier in the year.
I remember hearing on the radio many months ago a headmaster complaining that although he had 480 16-18 year old pupils, he would only be funded for 432 of them as the government had underestimated the number that would remain at school. They cut his funding to save funds. Now they give the pre-promised money back after being caught making secret cuts, and hey-presto, ‘extra funds’.
Fucker are always announcing the same funding again and again. I hate and distrust them.
Brown’s “Mr 10%” labelling of Cameron will bite Brown on the arse.
It’s blindingly obvious that the retort is that Brown is “Mr 10%” in the way that he doubled the tax rate for the lowest paid, as mentioned above in many other postings too.
Slightly OT but worth a look. It’ll cheer us up a little. A Guido correspondent kindly mentioned in an earlier thread an article by that useless sack of cack Ed Ballsup. If you think WE are harsh, try looking at some of the comments….and this….in the leftie bible The Guardian!
I have reproduced just one comment below…there are many many more in a similar vein. It is all turning so pear shaped for New Labour when even Guardian readers start spitting bile.
http://tinyurl.com/lamvp5
“Mr Balls. You are a bloody disgrace, the most despised member of a befouled and discredited government. Your smear of home educators, a benign group of left leaning. parentally active, law abiding citizens, is a vile taint which you must wear for the rest of your sick life. You call us potential paedophiles and use that to justify forced entrance into our homes and the removal, ‘for interrogation’ of our little children. Shame on you and your lackeys Graham Badman and Baroness Morgan.
And one other thing. When is this Labour leaning newspaper going to give us a proper article on the civil liberties elements of Badman? What it has done so far is parrot the Stalinist press releases of the DCSF. We want a proper article and a proper debate. All parents need to understand that if the state can access the homes of people like me without suspicion of any wrongdoing or abuse then it will be no time at all before they come knocking on the doors of anyone with kids and taking them away too. Is everyone happy with that?
Ed Balls: You are a disgusting, evil destroyer of civil liberties and family life.”
I have to declare that this blog is now getting boring and behind the times – there are far more interesting blogs with far less childish comments on them and far more insight.
Guido is, I am sure, very useful for some breaking news/insights,but I feel it is running out of steam.
well why don’t you fuck off then you retard?
why the fuck are you hanging around?
no receipt no refund.
bye.
I have been visiting this site for only about one month.
It quickly became obvious that a lot of time could be saved by skipping the blogs submitted by the handful of semi-lunatics writing only unmitigated nonsense ,partisan claptrap ,calculated insults and pseudo intelluctal theories .
Top of my list is the idiotic Master Baiter closely followed by the repulsive Thick as Thieves.George Laird had no trouble making it onto the list and Charles E Hardwidge leapt onto it.
Several others have attracted my attention but I wonder if other bloggers have any suggestions about other pests that I might include.
We should always remember that even in the most insane views there is some sanity.
What is remarkable about this blog is that it does not moderate out those comments that are derogatory to it.
You couldn’t say the same for Labour blogs (Watson for instance?) or the BBC – could you?
I believe it’s called a belief in free speech. Gordon could learn something here – couldn’t he?
Just looked again at the picture at the top: I thought Lavrenti Beria was dead!
some bloggers will rob you with a six shooter, and some with a foot in the door (Ukip, you filthy bugger!)
Gordon Amedinijhad and Mahmood Mandleson.
No doubt in my mind that the Byrne briefing was cancelled to give Ed Ball-up the limelight on News at One… In which he demonstrated, in a brilliant take-off of an eager-beaver first year PPE student at a former poly / aka ‘red-brick university’, that he is totally unfit for any high office or even to be an MP.
The man has the manners of an oaf and the intellect of a headless chicken.
In his book, constant shouting down, interruption and repetition constitute sound argument. With advisors like this, no wonder Broon is deep in the doodoo
Byrne is a feckwit apparatchik. A ‘tool’ of the hierarchy. Balls-up made a mess of ‘peace in our time’ for embattled Labour because of his interview with the Grauniad. There’s no doubt now that the UK is being held hostage by a bunch of terrorists, all fighting for their faction in the Labour party. sick, ain’t it?
Is it just me or do others instinctively feel Liam Byrne is a dangerous individual who has no business being part of our government. He lied his head off about immigration. I don’t think he really has any qualms about deceiving the public.