Democratic Renewal M’Lords?
Gordon has had a damascene conversion to democratic renewal since little over 5% of eligible voters supported him at the polls last week. The irony of a PM who avoided facing election to be leader of his own party and has no democratic public mandate wanting “democratic renewal” is striking. If he really wishes to reconnect with voters he could always call a general election.
How democratic is his own government?
The Cabinet :
1. First Secretary of State, Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills and Lord President of the Council – The Rt Hon Lord Mandelson etc.
2. Leader of the House of Lords and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster – The Rt Hon Baroness Royall of Blaisdon
3. Secretary of State for Transport – Lord Adonis
Other Ministers :
4. Attorney General – The Rt Hon Baroness Scotland of Asthal QC
5. Advocate General for Scotland – Lord Davidson of Glen Clova QC
6. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (MoJ) – Lord Bach
7. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (HO) – Admiral Lord West of Spithead GCB DSC
8. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (DCSF) – Baroness Morgan of Drefelin
9. Minister of State (DECC) – Lord Hunt of Kings Heath OBE; and Deputy Leader of the House of Lords
10. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (DOH) – Professor Lord Darzi of Denham KBE
11. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (DWP) – Lord McKenzie of Luton
12. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State* (DBIS) – Lord Young of Norwood Green (and Lord in Waiting – paid)
13. Financial Services Secretary (Treasury) – Lord Myners CBE
14. Minister of State (FCO) – The Rt Hon Lord Malloch-Brown KCMG
15. Minister of State – The Rt Hon Lord Drayson & (DBIS) (jointly with the Ministry of Defence)
Minister of State (MOD) – The Rt Hon Lord Drayson & (jointly with the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills)
16. Minister of State – Lord Davies of Abersoch CBE (DBIS) (jointly with the Foreign and Commonwealth Office)
Minister of State (FCO) – Lord Davies of Abersoch CBE (jointly with the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills)
17. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (DBIS) – Baroness Vadera (jointly with Cabinet Office)
Parliamentary Secretary (Cabinet Office) – Baroness Vadera (jointly with the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills)
18. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (FCO) – Baroness Taylor of Bolton (jointly with the Ministry of Defence)
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (MOD) – Baroness Taylor of Bolton (jointly with Foreign and Commonwealth Office)
New Lords:
19. Sir Alan Sugar
20. Glennis Kinnock
Unelected and democratically unaccountable ministers who owe their positions and loyalty only to Gordon Brown…
f f f f fucking hell someone beat me to it !
if brown wants a pier i suggest brighton !
He must have been there cos it burnt down….
The curse of Jonah McDoom strikes again
Employ Sugar, Margrete fucks off… He’s DOOOOOOMED I tell ya!
Guido – I must take issue with you here.
This is not ‘ironic’ so much as straight-up SHAMELESS FUCKING HYPOCRISY.
He wants to dispose of the remaining hereditary peers (decent people like Lord Onslow, demonstrably respected by their colleagues, and who have provided decades of unassuming service at minimal cost to the tax-payer).
On the other hand, McTwat is perfectly content for parasitic cünts like Baroness Uddin (who has failed signally and actually antagonised the job Blair elevated to do in the first place) to have lifetime membership at the upper trough.
It seems to make a difference by whom peers are ‘unelected’, doesn’t it?
What IS ironic is that the remaining hereditary peers targeted in Cyclops’ ‘democratic renewal’ (read ‘still not what you could call democracy’) actually have been ‘elected’ by the Lords to remain (qualities debated, votes cast etc.), which is a lot more than can be said for the turds slung beneath brown parachutes like Mandelson, Kinnock, Adonis et al.
The announcement today that Yvette Cooper intends to bring in legislation binding future governments to end child poverty by 2020(?) is just another example of Labour’s complete disregard for democracy.
Perhaps they should think on, for what is good for the goose is also good for the gander. When the Tories get in perhaps they should follow Labour’s footsteps, bring in hundreds of new laws, binding on all future goverments, so that if Labour ever get in again it will take them 5 years to repeal it all.
They are bonkers!
The Faecal Touch
Why are Tories ring-fencing overseas Aid FFS
They’re playing to the soft Labour and LD vote – it’s peanuts anyway compared with the NHS’s paperclips budget.
Canny move.
6 billion this year
A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you’re talking real money…
NHS budget is £280m a day. It’s disgusting that so little is delivered for so much. Cuts must follow.
I agree, sod the great unwashed overseas. People here must understand that in order to keep more of their own hard-won and well-deserved salary from a concomitant decrease in taxes, they must accept the public purse to not pay so much on what are individual’s duties, say, care of your own health and rearing of your own children.
Allegedly, five layers of NHS quangos leeching funds away from patient care. All staffed by people who know on which side their bread’s buttered.
I butter mine on both sides, Brown only
the good Dr Crippen explains it is not all about the money
http://nhsblogdoc.blogspot.com/2009/06/junior-hospital-doctors-are-incompetent.html
I think DFID’s bufget is currently £7bn+ and planned to increase at well above inflation levels for the forseeable future.
Take a look at their website http://www.dfid.gov.uk/ and weep.
Their goal: “Eliminating world poverty”. FFS
This is an absolute scandal when you think of the deserving pensioners and carers in this country having to scrape by on an absolute pittance.
Our role as cash provider to the third world needs to be challenged vigorously!!
Less than 1 minute on AljeBeeBa News at 10 on UK Politics, 7 minutes on Football!
That’s really quite depressing. So much for covering important things. Instead of finding out things that shape our everyday lives we are informed about various vacuous overpaid non-entities kicking a football around.
well we could be kept informed about vacuous overpaid non-entities kick our country into the long grass
not much difference really
except the footballers seem to have some ability at something
HEADLINE:
Brown going to ManU, as Ronaldo traded into Nu Labour cabinet to take up top job as the only one having successfully held premiership in England…
Yesterday (11/06), the 6 O’clock tv news on BBC1 was just under 7 minutes of some insignificant football player, worse – it was the TOP story over everything else. Strangely they had no time to mention Shahid Malik being found out again, and neither did the 10 O’Clock news yesterday mention it either. News manipulation of the worst kind.
You’re still watching the BBC for your news?? Pur-lease……
Peter Hain? That slob needs another good Guidoing, please.
I say BOOM BOOM BOOM let me hear you say wayyyyyy oooooooo
WAYYYY OOOOOO
wayyyyyyayyyyyyayyyyyy oooooooo de daylight cum
& da 5 bellies still der, no swingin’ from da lamppost like I was a-hopin’ for
Wayyyyyyyy OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I know why Jacqui has six bellies. She believes that there is not a lamppost strong enough to hold her. Just let Murdoch, B.A., Face, and myself access to some welding equipment and we can take care of that!
Speaking of needing a good Guidoing…
Be vewwwy, vewy qwiet and no-one will notice the bwatant hypocwisy of call me Dave “transparency” after little Georgie Osborne flips his home.
Remember it’s not PorkBusters it’s all within the Rules.
oh noes! here’s the story.
George Osborne ‘flipped’ second home after switching £450,000 mortgage
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1192245/George-Osborne-flipped-second-home-switching-450-000-mortgage.html
At last! I have after much effort and misadventure found another sane observer inhabiting this site. Cameron and Osborne are deceitful, avaricious and cruel aristocrat Tory oppressors who if elected will continue the degradation of public services and exploitation of the masses which they have striven to accomplish in Opposition, but have been fortunately thwarted at every devious turn by the watchful beneficence of Gordon.
As to the appointment of Lords in the Cabinet, this is merely insignificant Tory hyperbole. Democracy only works when people vote Nu Labour. Tories or other non-Nu Labour parties leading in the polls and winning elections shows the fundamental collapse of public rationality and the necessity of life-long Brown dictatorship. It is a measure of Gordon’s love for us that he is saving Britons from themselves by removing the danger of democratic determination.
What a fucking amateur, He only flipped his home once?
Darling flipped his 4 times!
It’s not Lord Charles of Hardwidget, Boy and Wetbed today? What a pity. Maybe jam tomorrow.
I cant see what the problem is , from looking at that article he used the collateral in his main home in London (via a remortgage) to buy his constituency house , that’s why the MPs second house allowance went to pay the interest on that remortgage.
As for CGT , you don’t pay CGT on the sale of your main home.
The Dailymail does not seem to dispute that Mr Osborne’s main home is the one in London.
Where have I gone wrong ?
Gordon Brown is great. The Conservatives are bad.
PorkBusters is only supposed to criticise NuLabour.
Anyone who criticises Dave is bad.
Silly arse.
I’ve raised this very issue a number of times with the Brown Broadcasting Corp., but they are NOT interested in touching it or letting people know about the total lack of democracy within government – which we pay for.
The New Labour government is like the BBC, they both make a lot of hot air that they are accountable to the public that pay for them, but give you two fingers when you point out all the wrongs within their organisations. The police also refuse to touch any of them, proving they are paid up members of New Labour, and their enforcement wing.
>the public that pay for them
Correction: the idiots who pay for them
Don’t pay. It’s simple. Look on de net for de tails.
Slightly off-topic, but watch Hazel Blears’ self-serving apology on Sky today (Friday) where several times she appears to morph into something resembling a reptile. Seriously creepy!
Can somebody video it and stick it up on youtube?
What is the total annual cost of an MP?
Multiply that by 150 (number of surplus MPs)
Get rid of the MPs and give the money to the poor impoverished children’s parents so they can spend it on fags,booze and grass.
Simpe economics innit!
reads like the first days list for the firing squad !
Surely ‘Glenys Kinnock’ ??
LADY Kinnock to you, pleb.
As I understand it – She’s not a Lady until she resigns as MEP in July
But the move will reduce her Salary and her Pension expectations
I bet she wishes she didn’t accept the post – she still might change her mind!
She won’t have an MEP salary once she leaves, so she needs the £88,000 from Gorgon to supplement her EU pension, EU resettlement allowance and EU lump sum. And in my view, every one of these new peers should lose the peerage on the day parliament dissolves, just the same as MPs lose their seats on the day of dissolution.
She’s not a “lady” full stop.
Why do we persist in giving these people fancy titles?
Peter Mandleson is just Peter Mandleson, Gladys Kinnock is just that…worse still she’s welsh!!!
Remember too her EU pension and payoff is conditional on her saying nothing bad or controversial about the EU, ever. If she breaches the promise to say only good things about the organisation, she could lose her pension immediately.
Great eh???
McStalin is learning to silence with money, well from his bosses.
Now Mandy is a “Real” Lady…
Whatever you want to call Glenys, she’s still a Welsh Windbag – like her husband.
She started out as “Gladys” AFAIK, got a job in the pickle factory at 14 before getting (a) knocked up by a ginger-pubed knob and (b) ideas above her station.
And he’s got ginger hair.
I think he poked my mum too.
At least we knew what Neil stood for unlike this cnut at the wheel now. Bliar was a Tory in disguise, McBust is just a complete fuckwit. You all know it makes sense….Socialism at it’s very worst…..
Surely ‘Some Mistake’ (or piss-take?).
at least glenys is not a scot. we offloaded the kinnocks but you english dumped hain on us
Utter bastards the lot of them. Fuck off.
Let’s face it. The democracy Hunter would have more success in Zimbabwe or North Korea than in Brown’s Britain.
As for their latest draconisan measure, Mrs Balls is now making it a law that all parents should have a phone, internet access and their children attend school trips. What if the parents want none of this, will she sdend them to jail or seize their children?
She’s building a ‘fairer society’, it is one where she and her husband can rip off the taxpayer with impunity !!
Yes, saw Ballsette on Sky News this morning chiming in with the new message.. “Tory cuts.. Tory cuts” like a demented parrot. Hope these fuckers are going to tell us where all the money is coming from to pay for “Increases in Government spending year-on-year since 1997!” Knutes the lot of them.
By punishing the successful until they leave and collapse the economy.
Ooops.
“Hope these fuckers are going to tell us where all the money is coming from to pay for “Increases in Government spending year-on-year since 1997!”
Easy, TAX, TAX, TAX and TAX again.
Any serf stupid enough to stay, will be lucky to see 40% of their so called wages and that is not just the “rich fat cats” either.
Socialism always ends the same way, dictatorial government, bankrupted economy and millions of dependent state “workers” producing fuck all of any value, who`s only function, is just making other peoples lives a little more miserable.
Gordon Brown’s Tie
What is so fucking dishonest is that a household in “child poverty” is defined as one that has 2/3rds or less of average income.
Think about it.
Whatever the level of income in this country, “child poverty” will never be ended until no household with children has less than 2/3rds of average income. It is simply redistribution of wealth by another name, except that Liebour know that the electorate would never wear such a policy if nakedly described for what it is. As things stand, the sort of fuckwits who listen uncritically to the BBC nod their heads in approval as Balls’s boy-wife spouts her shite. It’s for the good of the kiddies, innit?
They are communists, and they are after your money.
Socialism always ends the same way, dictatorial government………..run by Hooning bumboys…………………….., bankrupted economy and millions of dependent state “workers” producing fuck all of any value, who`s only function, is just making other peoples lives a little more miserable.
What a complete Huhne s/he is. A waster of the highest order, and occasionally is seen down the road from my gaff when s/he comes home. Money will come from cutting qango mania and beurocrats that have left the Socialist Lefties top heavy and unable to govern. What a fucking disgrace they’ve been….
Tory cuts
Tory cuts
Squawk
Tory cuts
But isn’t it even worse than Guido says? At the last election Blair said he would stand for a full third term. Since then Gordon has defied the electorate and his party and deposed Blair without one vote cast….Democracy that ain’t.
Hate to stand up for the man but doesn’t every department have to have at least one peer so that that department can be properly scrutinized in the Lords?
You’re perfectly correct. It weakens Guido’s argument to pad out the list like this.
why – the Lords can co-opt any one they need to if they want to scrutinise.
The whole point is
Ministers are supposed to be accountable to the democratically elected part of the government; therefore a Minister should be available to answer to and be scrutinised by the House of Commons. You can ONLY do this if you are a member of the HoC. So it follows that ALL ministers should be members of the HoC apart from the Leader of the House of Lords. But that is applying the rules ( as interpreted by the Labour Party) to the Labour Party; and since the rules that socialist make up are only for the plebs it is obvious that the Labour government is totally exempt and will soon announce Gordon has all the answers so the rest of the out dated trappings of democracy are no longer necessary
I seem to remember a bunch of left wing bigots screaming and shouting about how disgusting it is that UNELECTED people are allowed any where near government.
Why aren’t the MSM LAUGHING at the hypocritical bastards ?
Agreed. In particular one can’t really complain the the Leader and Deputy of the House of Lords is, well, a Lord.
I meant to agree with Anonymous, not Peter DTM.
The Lords as well as the Commons has a role of scrutinising the government. They can’t do that if no Ministers are in the Lords. Otherwise they’d just end up having a chat amongst themselves. And democratic or not, thank goodness they do because otherwise everything would just be whipped through.
Crikey Guido – I had no idea.
The MSM behind the ’8′ ball as usual
Brown should be crucified. Yet more evidence of doublespeak
Agreed. But “behind the ’8′ ball” suggests some fault of ignorance and/or ineptitude affecting the MSM. Toenails and Dumblebore aren’t as stupid and worthless as they appear (surprising I know). There is an unspoken conspiracy, of near universal Socialist Totalitarian belief amongst journalists, impelling them to refrain from reporting the most horrid details of Gordon’s usurpation. They know the British people dislike such oppressive and persecuting government, but they themselves love it.
It is a least consistent!
new Brownfall re-make of the Bunker is also amusing. As highlighted by the Telegraph on-line.
Alan Shearer to be the next person elevated without any vote being registered?
He’s useless enough, so why not?
The Penguin
‘Bout three years ago, when His Holiness the Blessed Tony was last in England, he visited me and gave as a present two books. The first was Machiavelli’s “The Prince”, which was written by a vile, corrupt, tyrannical autocrat about using said autocracy in a strident way. The second book was by King (then only Crown Prince) Frederick of Prussia who as Voltaire’s pupil wrote an answer to the other treatise, calling it the “Anti-Machiavel”, in which he argued for rational, benevolent despotism, and then upon succeeding to the throne basically ruled as Machiavelli propounded but with a charming French accent so it made it all sophisticated and like.
Up until now I followed Frederick, post-Youtube I’m a student of the Prince…
Guido. Is it no wonder that people are apathetic to politics where the working mechanisms are beyond comprehension even for those who take an interest?
And Mandelson is saying that we will “obviously” join the euro.
He’s a Huhne. An unelected Huhne.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/5506385/Britain-will-obviously-join-euro-says-Mandelson.html
Mandelsnake must be the most reviled and loathed creature in the country
He’s overdue for the William Wallace treatment
Mandelson can see the writing on the wall for Labour and is greasing his path back to Brussels.
So does McMental and the rest of his greasy crew of cohorts, a sinacure in the EU for the ringleaders, a highly rewarded placement in the Quangocracy for his lieutenants and the cannon fodder left to fend for themselves when their usefulness is ended and ZanuLabour are trounced.
By then of course the country and economy will be a burnt out hulk, drifting on the seas and McMental and his merrie crew of arse bandits, thieves and pirates, will have long made their escape.
William Wallace had it easy. I’d rather Voldemort went the way of Hugh Despencer.
The Penguin
just read about Despencers trial and execution, are you sure it’s enough for Mandlesnake? Treason is too small a word for his actions, both here and in Europe.
Over HIS dead body.
Yep this man’s hypocrisy lies and insanity begs belief. Anyway, I don’t care what title they have they are all fucking peasants in my eyes. They might as well have purchased their titles over the internet. Do these titles pass on to their children? Oh sorry did I turn this into a class thing, dam straight. He will get rid of the queen next and declare a republic. This is why peasants should not have power.
Why pick on peasants? They make excellent eating, and have lovely plumage.
The Penguin
Doesn’t the Leader of the Lords rather have to be a Lord?
S/he is the only one. Roll on fully elected Senate.
Deeply depressing!
Off topic I know but there are over 500 comments where this really belongs so I apologise.
Re:Shahid Malik -claiming rent for using part of his house as an ‘Office’- is anyone looking at the expenses of former Labour MP David Marshall, Glasgow East? He retired very suddenly last year. It was later found that he had his constituency office in his home where he employed his wife or daughter( it is not clear`as they have the same name)
I believe the official investigation will go back for 4 years but will it include MPs who have retired?
For 4 years, St Norman Baker of Lewes, also claimed for his office, an unused shop on the ground floor of his constituency home, at a tidy £10k per annum
Cashback!
Isn’t David Marshall one of the MP’s that Labour whips warned was at ‘serious psychological risk’ if his expenses were made public?
Shoooosh!
Does anyone know of a definitive list, say, of how many of the top twenty are unelected?
Meanwhile, this is required reading: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6473870.ece
I actually now believe that this country is beyond politics. The lying, cheating, deceit, secrecy, denial is endemic. To change that is beyond politcs. For the want of a better explanation, it’s psychological.
Unsurprising. Straw has more skeletons in his spacious closets than Barts Medical School.
If not politics then what? The British sheeple will never rise up. We get the politics we deserve. Baaaaaa!
Go away you grubby little man and stop criticising you betters.
Nearly all of us have been to a public school and we do not mix with riff-raff like you.
And how many “Old Etonians” are surrounding David Cameron ?
Must hurry I am off to meet Charles Hardwidge to snort half a gramme
Is Cameron in government?
He’s bound to have a Jacqboots ID card. See how it benchmarks for chopping out would you?
Mustn’t hold it against a chap that he’s had a decent education – unlike the 40% of our school leavers who after 10 years of “education” can neither reede knor rite 2 gud.
Why are Labour obsessed with the fact that the Tories went to better public schools than they did?
Because Socialism is the politics of Envy
Schimples!!
You couldn’t make it up. Its too fucking far fetched
We have gone way beyond the twilight zone
This is simply what we have been used to in New Labour and Brown. They speak all sorts of reform and democracy yet they do exactly the opposite. I despise this government with a passion and will do everything I can come the next election to reveal its true character.
I hope all these current revelations are highly publicised just before the next election – most people these days seem to have short attention spans and soon forget.
So do I, deeply despise this Government.
Didn’t the Sainted Mrs T have a Lord holding one of the Offices of State, Foreign Secretary?
You mean Lord Carrington …. who had the balls to resign when he realised that the resident lefties at the FCO were trying to sell the Falkland Islanders down the river.
Yes it was Lord Carrington.
Commanded the first tank over the Nijmegan bridge to try and relieve Arnhem in WWII.
Then went on to be Foreign Secretary and resigned when it was found that his department failed in the run-up to the Argentinian invasion of the Falklands.
A proper man.
She also gave David Young of the Manpower Services Commission a peerage in 1984 and as Lord Young of Graffham he sat in the Cabinet until 1989 firstly as Minister without Portfolio, then as Secretary of State for Employment and finally as Secretary of State for Trade and Industry. “Other ministers bring me problems,” she said. “David brings me solutions.”
It’s the only example I can think of in either the Thatcher or Major administrations of a life peerage being created specifically to fill a Cabinet post and it created a predictable stink on the Labour Commons front bench. Curiously the drafting in of Lords Mandelson and Adonis to the Cabinet by Brown hasn’t seemed to exercise Lords Kinnock, Hattersley, Healey, Sir Gerald Kaufman or any of the rest of them still living these days.
the last person to resign from the government with any honour!
Surely that would be the resident ex-gnome Robin Cook?
A better argument for a democratic Lords I have yet to see.
actually the current bunch of hoons who have seized power are a damned good reason to STOP any idea of an elected HoL.
Life peerage & hereditary peers can be (and ARE) independent of Party whips in a way no elected person can be.
What has to be changed is the way the Labour party has so perverted the appointment of peers – all labour appointments should be void (along with the labour party) until susch time as an investigation has proved there was no cash or other inducement used to obtain elevation.
we all expect torries to be self serving – but they tend to do so in small self serving ways; socialist seem to have a passion for breaking as many records as possible when it comes to being corrupt; comes of being greedy grasping champaign socialists I suppose; greed lies and arrogance seem to be symptoms of being socialist
There is a good reason for having so many Ministers in the Lords: it has become the main revising chamber for the torrent of hastily drafted Bills that come from Government, so Government needs a full set of Minsters there to do the work.
So, legislation gets reviewed by the Sheep in the commons and rubber stamped by placemen in the Lords…excellent. Although the unelected EU Commissioners have approved 75% of the legislation anyway. MEPs presumably just wave as the paper passes by. A truly brilliant process.
We pay for all these tossers to do fuck all.
Let’s have a dictatorship,at least we could sack most of this lot.
“Let’s have a dictatorship”
We already have effectively a dictatorship, 75% of all our laws are made by unelected placemen and women in another country.
The HOC and the HOL cannot change a single line or even a comma in any EU Directive ( command ) all they can do is meekly pretend it is government legislation and place it on the statute book.
Now add to that a government / regional authority / vassal statelet, that does not reqiure ministers to be elected, a surviellance society, draconian and intrusive laws designed to remove all rights and freedoms from citizens, with a police force that will not investigate the unlawful behaviour of their paymasters and I would contend that is as close to a functioning dictatorship as you could get.
Of course we still have elections, though now it seems that the Mental One has a new “mission” to ensure they are irrelevant, however when we vote, do we ever get change?
and dictators tend to shot those who oppose them – is this why none of the labour hoons have any backbone – they’re frightened of getting shot ?
No they fear losing ££££!!!
Who in their right mind would employ any of the Old/Amateur Labour front bench?
No time for a novice…….
Good grief. What a dog’s dinner the Cabinet has turned into. Government by a cabal of all the toadies. Meanwhile, elected MPs have – it is reported – no work to do. General election now, please. This can’t go on – Gordon Brown and Mandelson are making Britain a laughing stock.
You’re right, but how can it be made to stop and who takes the first step? It has to be the Queen or a petrol strike. I can’t see any other way.
Why petrol strike?
Surely Petrol bomb is more apt
Petrol strike gets my vote.
F*cking Hell!!!
That is shocking!!! Brown is a total f*cking self contradicting ar*hole who need a new one ripping.
Brown doesn’t give a sh1t about this country or the people. Only himself.
“F*ck the Queen, I’m having my photo taken with President Obama” – it is worse because Brown thinks he is Head of State and forgets that he is just someone who back stabbed a Prime Minister.
I suppose everyone has seen the piece in Private Eye about the Kinnock being a notorious ‘I’ll just sign in and collect the daily allowance and go home’ merchant in Europe. She’ll be quite at happy in the Lords.
Also PFI, also councillors expenses, also Union Leaders salary package also….
The Kinnocks are shameless troughing traitors of the first water.
And made it hereditary by passing the trait onto their children.
they learnt fromn the Benns (now there is a nice hereditary socialist family)
…and Peter Mandelson.
Everyone always forgets about me.
Is it because I come through the back door?
I simply can’t swallow this sort of vile innuendo concerning my sexuality.
with Gordon Ben Doon and Peter Phil McCavity in charge we are all screwed!
The rich nobility shrouded in ermine…all together now:
The people’s flag is deepest red,
It shrouded oft our martyred dead,
And ere their limbs grew stiff and cold,
Their hearts’ blood dyed its ev’ry fold.
Then raise the scarlet standard high.
Within its shade we’ll live and die,
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer,
We’ll keep the red flag flying here.
Where’s that fucking butler gone with my brown ale?
Power to the people!
people power the to
People complain about the Royal Family but how much does this rogues gallery of titled persons cost?
Loads, I bet.
Nearly as much as GPS.
The Royal Family do a wonderful Diplomatic Service for Britain & the Commonwealth.
They have some of the best educated and underused leaders with Military experience within their Royal Household. They have served their country as Diplomats in peacetime and have led heroically in wartime.
How many people would dare to have made mockery of Lord Louis Mountbatten or the Duke of Edinburgh to their face?
Quite so. And they pay tax.
ha ha! the fuckers are lording it over you and you pussies get cross. Strewth, what does it take for you ladies to show you’re not all ladyboys as is the common perception of English men. Or are you holding on for the recovery of house prices when the English covenant between governors and governed will be renewed with all quids in. Stuff democracy all you soulless bastards care about is money. You’re a pissing laughing stock.
You sound like a Toytown Nazi wind-up merchant. I’ll get me eggs…
You sound like a scratched record, fuck off back to Grauniad comments.
Up yours, sonny
Come over bumps in your pram on the way to playschool this morning?
Poor thing.
Don’t forget to separate the whites…
You’re not wrong. The grandkids will be lorded over by liars, have their dna in the central database and have to produce their papieren on demand to anyone with a clipboard. Utterly depressing.
It is irresponsible to have Kids in todays world
Careful, LG, some ladyboy will call you a ‘Toytown Nazi’ if you talk this strait.
To that you can add the myriads of unelected heads of the quangos – one of NuLab’s favourite past-times has been to push areas of government responsibility out to a vast number of government agencies so that they are at arm’s length from supposedly accountable politicians. That of course means that the politicians can heap blame on the quangos when anything goes wrong and so avoid any curtailment of their own careers.
Bring back Sharia law, I say.
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Is this is a new style of plutocracy?
Does that make Lord Bend Over of Touch Your Toes with Glowing Ring Piece in the county of Hampstead Heath……Pluto?
Darling… Mickey Mouse?
McTwat… Daffey Duck?
Eh?
not very good with words is Billy Bos
Not very good with words is Billy Bos?
Thank you!
OT but I just had to post this:
‘Want a British passport? Just stand on a picket line or canvas for Labour’
The Home Office says trade union activism and political canvassing should
count towards the planned new system of ‘earned citizenship’.
Migrants will win fast-track passports if they stand on picket lines or knock on doors asking people to vote Labour, it emerged last night.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1192461/Want-British-passport-Just-stand-picket-line-canvas-Labour.html
They also receive eggs to throw to ensure the right kind democracy prevails at all costs
I knew I had that lead-ended pick helve behind the front door for something……
One kilo axe behind mine.
The mask is off. It’s full on gerrymandering and cynical manipulation to stay in power. They are Neo-Nazis.
Nearly. They are unstoppable neo-nazis. Resistance is futile (and non-existent).
No they’re not.
Nazi were at least nationalists. Labour hates this country.
just another bunch of power mad lying communist murderers
nothing unusual really
it is normall behaviour for people who know they have all the right answers – and if you don’t agree then you are just wrong; so wrong you need killing
neo nazis are good guys compared to this pile of shit
By country I’m guessing you mean England?
FFS!!!!
Do they have a death wish?
They just do not get it, they think we are stupid, fuckwitted peasants, sheeple
They are in for a rude awakening
Please, you’ll start making me hopeful. Let’s face it, in a couple of weeks the “stupid, fuckwitted peasants, sheeple” will have been safely anaesthatised by the latest Big Brother eviction.
Please, FFS don’t get me started on BB….!
It’s too early in the day, the pub’s not even open yet and the thought of Mandelsnake, HMG and BB is enough to get me to the pub and totally blutered!
Labour only have one year at most to go. It should be Tory policy that it is not in the national interest to allow immigrants early citizenship for trade unison or political activities. Quite the reverse.
Community and charitable work is fine provided that it is of a type that shows a desire to integrate into the British way of life and does not encourage ghettoisation.
and charitable work should not be done by governement
ever
Fantastic, so when I get canvassed for my vote and I tell the would be passport holder to fcuk off, I get done for rascism, get a record and go on the insecure database?
Apparently, ‘Community service claims will have to be endorsed by a referee who could be fined £5,000 or jailed for three months for lying. ‘
So if the same principle is applied to everyone who makes up this sham ‘government’ then we’ll see them all permanently locked up.
Mr Fawkes – that is one serious laundry list of cronies.
I feel an election poster coming on if they try Tory toffs again!
Guido, I think with deliberate credulity for the sake of satire, mistakes Brown, his associates, and his motives for cleaving to power. He no longer represents either the interests or the sentiment of the nation. He no longer even represents, as its leader, faction, i.e. Nu Labour, the mad party of insolence and corruption maintaining the Scottish Raj over England.
Gordon represents himself, his own prestige, riches and (oh, how ill-deserved) honours. To resign or call a General Election he is certain to lose, means forfeiting these, since reputation and happiness have vanished, his last comforts. He will go only when he dies or is taken out…
You lie! Gordon is my chivalrous and altruistic shepherd who shall soon deliver us from this Margaret Thatcher-produced poverty and indebtedness unto the land of ASBO-free streets and English-free countryside.
Which started in America!
The Penguin
Amen
Gordon is great. The tories are bad.
Can’t see Lord Carter on the list
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/5509758/Lord-Carter-quits-Government-after-just-a-few-months-as-a-minister.html
“Unelected and democratically unaccountable ministers who owe their positions and loyalty only to Gordon Brown…”
That’s hardly fair Guido. Mandlebum and Kinnochio owe their positions and loyalty primarily to the EU, Gorgon is secondary if that.
Mandlebum owes his position to whichever rent-boy is sticking his little todger in at any given moment.
You’ve left out Lord Carter.
And some of the MPs in the Cabinet would never ever be appointed to their jobs by anyone other than Brown. Bob Ainsworth as Secretary of State for Defence is surely beyond parody.
*47 only seconds in it
Twenty of ‘em FFS. Christmas has come early for these troughers
9 Ladies Dancing
10 Lords a Leaping
and a Partridge in a Pear Tree
10 Lords a troughing surely
Todays Guardian has a double page spread of “the government” with clear flow chart diagrams and the parliamentary sketch by Simon Hoggart is one of his best ever pieces
[...] until I bumped into this post at Archbishop Cranmer’s place, which was backed up by a post at Guido Fawkes, and they both make the point that after Gordon Brown’s latest Cabinet and government [...]
“South Shields premier political blog”? Meaningless boast. Isn’t it the sole one in all of Tyne and Wear?
Nah, only teasing…quite good actually. Shrewd, instructive commentary and ooh! Video!, and it’s with Hague! Hurrah!
Gordon call an election you’ve got more chance of getting a w##k off the pope ,you stupid plebs!.
We’ve had that one before: originality on here please
I would stick up for Lord Adonis one of the few who is sticking up for the commuter but unfortunately has inherited a situation where he can do very little.
Apart fom affect policy and carry on troughing
Gordon, I will find you……….
Government Soviet style. These people know no shame.
I believe that Inland Revenue can review an individuals records over six years.
Why has Our Great Leader decided that four years will suffice for MP’s expenses ????
I thought it was forever?
There is no way the Lords will agree to be wholly elected. Alltose newly appointed Labour ones were looking forward to a lifetime of more handouts for fuck all. They’ll not want that snatched from under theri nose by a bunch of elected politicians.
Pure 1984. Unelected hereditary peers BAD. Unelected Labour peers GOOD.
Plus the Commons although entirely controlled by Labour fucking plankton at the minute will struggle, in years to come, when hopefully a bunch of grown-ups get elected, to explain why their elected chamber deserves to be the on generating all the legislation while the Lords elected chamber is only allowed to alter/veto it for a while.
How will they square that away with democracy?
Which body will be more ‘democratic?’ And why? And if, for whatever reason, a permanent mis-match between the party of ‘democracy’ in the Commons and the party of ‘democracy’ in the Lords arises won’t that create even more problems.
Democacy only lives on the day of the vote, after which it is troughing as usual.
Monsieur Rousseau, we ‘ave some thirty-eight of your bastard children waiting for collection.
And in the future, please, no more foundlings….there’s a madrasa down the street.
Democracy is just a word, an appeasement to the populace of how we are truly Governed.
Time to wake up and look around you, is what you see truly “Democracy”
It’s the age old story of the egotistical, politically ambitious/useful idiots creating themselves ‘haves’ v we the ‘have nots’:
The ‘haves’ you list HAVE NO;
morals
principles
compassion
conscience
mind of their own
but they also have:
greed
avarice
huge ego’s
hatred for all things ‘good’
Being a ‘have not’ who knows about the ‘haves’ I have the top list and try to avoid the bottom list as it only leads to decay; destruction and well, just look around us…..
The latest wheeze from this certifiable nut is to bring more immigrants in and give them passports for canvassing for NuLiabour!! It’s time to organise a march on Whitehall. We start with a petrol strike, close most of the country down and take it from there. Anyone up for it?
Sorry – Anon already posted about this.
This my friend is one of the primary functions of immigration, have you only just realised this.
Of course not. I realise that’s why Gordo taxed us to death, so he could create – what was it? – 700,00 grateful civil “servants” – and allowed Somali criminals to move in their thousands into Bristol. What surprises me is that the Scottish Bastard is making his latest, desperate vote-grabber PUBLIC.
See you at the Friends Meeting House tomorrow perchance?? – WANTED – “1 million rebellious Brits”. BC Group dot org dot uk.
At tpuc dot org watch the three vids down the LHS of main page, Harris, Gerrish, Burgess.
There IS another way and an answer to all this TREASON.
So without wanting to detract from your point Guido…
How many “ministers” and lackeys does Brown’s cabinet have?
1/ As a flat figure, is this higher than under the last Tory admin?
2/ What is the “extra” salary we’re paying?
3/ What percentage of this cabinet is from the other place and how does that compare to the last Tory admin?
4/ How many of them are accountable for the mistakes made by their departments?
5/ As a rough figure, do we know how many people each of these “ministers” and lackeys has working for them?
I’m aware it could take some time, but am willing to search links
You mock us in South Yorkshire(Doncaster) for electing a ‘fascist’ mayor, but at least he’s going to clean out the stables if he can of all consultants and ‘non’ jobs. Watch and learn.
Notice how little national press he has received in this mini-revolution.
I hate to defend Gordon Brown but surely it is acceptable that the Leader of the House of Lords sits in the House of Lords. Your main point is 100% correct however.
More peers have the right to attend Cabinet than at any time since Churchill in 1954, and his were proper peers not placemen
http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page19564
has the full list of Ministers and support staff ( elected or otherwise)
Is that the full comprehensive link?
What about SPAD’s, and underlings?
Is there such a thing as a “Government Tree” similar to what you’d find in large companies?
Trying to get context
Not disputing unelected and unaccountable nature of Brown’s government
no just the tip of the iceberg…….
This is what really pisses me of about this utter clown. He bangs on about renewing democracy etc and yet he is the most undemocratic PM ever leading the most undemocratic government in UK history. What a f**king joke he is!
Well summed up Guido.
All we need now is Hardwidge to tell us how great Gordon and his government is…….
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That’s pretty unreasonable of you to tar the Nazi party with the same brush as this Liebour scum!
The next thing you’ll be saying is my Father didn’t wite my book after the war!
G O B L I N I S M O R ON
New Labour are IngSoc. At some point, they will have to be shot for the good of the human race.
Good list Guido, facts and deeds and expenses claims data speak louder than mellow voiced vague intentions for improving democracy!
Meanwhile, don’t forget the UK’s structural budget deficit amounts to about 100 billion pounds per annum, according to the OECD. So, even when some of the hardly-to-spot greenshoots become blooming flowers, a 100 billion each year will be added to the national debt (structural deficit estimates assume normalised growth and hence lower ubnemployment benefits and higher tax revenue).
I apologise for this sobering thought
Forgot to cram in that Berlusconi at least still had to get people vote for a european list with one or two of his babes on it and did not have the power to put them straight into the european parliament. Imagine what the british press would have written in case Berlusconi had dropped his babes straight into parliament!
Drop the babes in here please.
nothing is what they said
or have you forgotten the arch daemon Tony & his sexist women only selection lists ?
mind you – I reckon the Italians would get a better deal; at least you could look at something – our lot aren’t worth looking at while they spout their putrid poisonous political lies
Berlusconi had the secency to have Babes on his list of candidates whereas Blair and Brown had only absolute mingers.
Small Change got rained on with his own .38…….
Tom waits for no man. General Erection now of gibets, scaffolds, and bonfires.
The Prime Minister’s blind in one eye
And he can’t see out the other
And the Chancellor is a mental midget
With the IQ of a fencepost…
And the piano has been drinking
Not me, Not me
Not
Me
What I’d like to know is will there ever get to the point where a mass of the people will say enough is ENOUGH -we have completely had it?-demos, rioting-because as far as I can see the British public have almost had anough of this crooked , bullying man and his crooked govt.
Has there ever been anything worse than this self-centred, self-serving bastard?
To answer you question, we will never get to that point.
Hush now my woolly friends, calm yourselves, it’s all under control and Big Brother is on tonight too.
There there, back to sleep now.
If you look at what happens abroad, mass demonstrations are usually organised by political parties, in opposition.
There is no other way of achieving effective mass demonstrations.
We have such an undemocratic system because the person in charge is a psychopath. To check whether Broon is a psycho, I looked at Wiki. Well here are the main traits:
Factor1: Aggressive narcissism
1. Glibness/superficial charm
2. Grandiose sense of self-worth
3. Pathological lying
4. Cunning/manipulative
5. Lack of remorse or guilt
6. Emotionally shallow
7. Callous/lack of empathy
8. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
I rest my case!
Pete-s: That’s Blair. Brown is even more complex.
Shit, that’s my boss.
Surely eating your own snot on live tv must come in to it somewhere?
Good point, I would say that is a combination of points 2,5,6,8 and a little bit of 1.
That would be a rather disgusting, complex and odd combination of muophilia, mucophagy and martymachlia.
I wonder if it gave him an erection?
You didn’t produce the list in full, I’ve taken the liberty of doing so below:
Hare Psychopathy Checklist:
Factor1: Aggressive narcissism
1. Glibness/superficial charm
2. Grandiose sense of self-worth
3. Pathological lying
4. Cunning/manipulative
5. Lack of remorse or guilt
6. Emotionally shallow
7. Callous/lack of empathy
8. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
Factor2: Socially deviant lifestyle
1. Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
2. Parasitic lifestyle
3. Poor behavioral control
4. Promiscuous sexual behavior
5. Lack of realistic, long-term goals
6. Impulsivity
7. Irresponsibility
8. Juvenile delinquency
9. Early behavior problems
10. Revocation of conditional release
Traits not correlated with either factor
1. Many short-term marital relationships
2. Criminal versatility
I’m afraid that you’ll find that it isn’t just Brown who shares these traits, but Politicians in general.
Persons having high scores on any Psychopathy Trait Test, are often found amongst the most successful of Businessmen as well as those who have risen to the top in the field of Politics (like something else which floats).
I think the item on “parasitical lifestyle” is most revealing.
Brown must score very highly on the “Lack of realistic, long-term goals” item.
I’d rather have Renaldo even in a Paris Hilton moment!
Looks more like the House of Lords than the house of commons perhaps we should rename it the Polip Buroe we are now living in a dictatorship
These arseholes have the cheek to condem the two new MEP members but at least they were elected
BASTARDS THE LOT OF EM!!
In my view Guido should start a movement to strip every Lords political appointee of their peerage on the day parliament is dissolved. MPs lose their seats on dissolution and some get relected. Why should political peers keep their titles and keep their expense accounts? Democracy demands they are kicked out!
Hear hear… Proper elected members of the second chamber only… and if the MPs keep bleating on about how having a second elected chamber will detract from their power… so what… Le’ts have a properly elected/revising second chamber… and no bishops in their by right – only if the twats stand for election and are successful.
Whilst I’m on the subject, lets have a properly elected president too. Bring on the republic and away with the pampered nutters of the Royal family as heads of state.
But if it’s elected it would be just like whoever the Government is and the Lords lose its detached, overseeing view of legislation… this saved us from 90-day detention becoming law, remember. Ideally the Lords should be apolitical but distinguished experts in various fields.
I guess a list should be submitted by Parliament, and it would be up to the Queen to approve or not — she’s the only person who’s judgement I’d trust to have the final say and she’s not allowed to be political.
An even better way of encouraging MPs and peers would be to shoot them at the end of their term. Let’s see how one crowded hour of glory grabs them.
Haha – Gordon Brown is King Midas in Reverse – http://www.dailymotion.com/losegordon/video/16062460
He has also promised more fairness and transparency in the expenses system, and then brings in Glynis Kinnock, member of the legendary Kinnock dynasty European expenses group scheme.
Priceless !!!!!
I bet the Daily Telegraph are already taking on more reporters to cope with the extra business.
Mandelson always was an expensive bastard, especially when he worked for us
You’re telling me! Even Neil Kinnock didn’t cost me as much.
McMental has the sheer fucking brass neck to drone on about democracy?
I’m no conspiracy theorist, but i have to say i feel that this massive shuffle of the Labour Government seems almost to have been engineered over a long period of time. Like a secret society within the existing Labour party.
Isn’t it incredible to think that we now have a government that is hell-bent on removing civil liberties, and that same government has been so heavily reconstructed that it no longer bears a shred of resemblance to the government that people thought they were voting for at the last election?
trouble is : people who voted labour last time didn’t think
the rest of us knew what an undemocratic bunch hoons this illegitimate execus for a government is
Not surprising, would you willingly sign up and work for that one eyed scottish moron ( with apologies and copywright acknowledgement to Jezza{J. Clarkson Esq}) and fuck you career and chances up.
Gordo has always paid lip service to democratic process, at heart he’s a Stalinlite sort of guy.
Wonder how many mobiles and other pieces of electronic kit have been smashed/trashed since last weeks election results.
Gordo will no doubt reduce the voting age to 10 in a last ditch effort to get votes.
is it really necessary to include the word ‘scottish’ as though it is a derogatory term?
Only if your’e English
sorry you’re English
Maybe you should learn to use English grammar correctly then, if you’re going to assume an air of superiority about being English.
Maybe you should get ready for the backlash that wil surely come when the English see the depth of the racist hatred the scotch have for the English – you think you’re getting away with it – but you’re not.
I think its necessary to convey what they actually think.
And votes by text….!!
re: henry 5th – give me a break.
Who doesn’t think this is government by dictak? Unelected Cabinet/shadow Cabinet ministers should never be allowed. I appreciate all governments/parties have indulged in this practice, but that doesn’t make it right. Brown has pushed it to an absurd degree. Mandelson was bad enough, but the rest of the non-entities are a serious insult to the electorate, who didn’t elect them.
But that is the whole ethos of this government… sod the electorate, ignorant proles, no need to bother about them.
I am not sure that a Conservative government would be any different. Cameron et al rabbit on about devolving power to local level, and simultaneoulsy rabbit on about green issues which they patently obviously don’t understand. Do I want a government that can’t understand science? I don’t think so!
Gordon Brown doesn’t think his government is a dictatorship, he is also helping hard working families. So there’s one.
And he’s getting on with the job. (And he’s not going to cut public services by 10% – that is a lie created by the Tory biased blogosphere). The so-and-so’s.
Blake’s7 said:
“he is also helping hard working families.”
Such as the Kinnocks.
ah; you make the mistake of assuming green has anything to do with science; understanding science would result in some sensible anti-green policies – like coal & nuclear power stations for a start
One thing tho Guido, they are transparent, the whole population can see right through them.
A complete box of junk.
All of them the most gutless clueless corrupt bunch of shit scared cowards you could wish to meet.
Not fit to run a bath.
Typical MP’s all absolutely fucking useless!
I have spoken to Lords, Knights, and other people in high office during my life. I am not one of them – I associated (met) with them as part of my job. I found most of them to be extremely rude and completely lacking in common courtesy and social skills.
These are the sorts of people we have running the country and I find it hard to believe it will be any better under the Conservatives.
Oh come on, I think they’re just shy. Sorry, I mean incapable of relating to other human beings.
You’d have thought this sort of thing would piss off the common or garden MPs. You work hard, kiss arse in the constituency party, serve your time standing in no hope seats, knock on doors, kiss babies, get elected, work hard for your party in the hope that one day you’ll end up in a position of real power. Then you find that some ermine wearing twat who crashed his own company in a fit of sheer incompetence who has never put up with a single constituent belly aching about how the council won’t give him new windows gets the job instead.
I’d be planning some sort of challenge but then that’s me over the back, just out and out unreasonable.
Indeed you would.
Shows what a bunch of spectacular underachievers they are… and especially those with a Labour/Union background are total hypocrits — spending their lives breathing fire and brimstone about toffs and royalty, and the next trying on their ermine robes and admiring themselves and getting the new stationary printed with their title.
Why don’t Labour backbenchers such as Dennis Skinner speak out? Or has he only got the guts to pick on our 85 year old monarch?
Hoons led by a steaming Hoon.
On the topic of democratic reform, even the bbc picked up on Brown’s fake move to reduce the 30-year rule to 20 years to release documents, but to simultaneously (wow, 6 syllables from 14 letters!) make it harder for FOI requests to get cabinet documents released:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/opensecrets/
Guido is right to expose the undemocratic nature of the Cabinet.
It matters because if the PM can choose anyone he wishes for his cabinet, we end up with a Presidential style of Government where the PM can do what he wants, by virtue of a Cabinet packed with placemen.
Because Labour’s attack on democracy has been incremental, there has been no single action sufficient to cause widespread public unrest.
I think it would be useful if the Conservative party thought carefully about if and where it wanted to draw lines in the sand and threaten mass demonstrations if those lines were crossed.
My line in the sand would be any attempt to reform the electoral system prior to the next election.
Expect Brown to float reform proposals that appeal to lib dems, who obviously should be on their guard. Lib dems may hold the key to power in the next, potentially hung parliament.
The alternative vote system could help labour stay in a smaller driving seat while the libdems get some junior posts.
The AV system could enable labour and lib dems to suffocate the other parties in the UK if they consistently persuade their voters to cast the alternative vote for the other party.
Remember that one of the things they have ‘incrementally’ done is to make it much more difficult to take to the streets in protest. These days we can expect army-sized police forces heavily equipped to deal with protestors. Ironically, at the same time there are signs that Labour’s Police State has actually resulted in a renewed spirit of protest among UK people, who seem to be re-discovering their appetite for shouting and throwing things.
Lloyd George eat your heart out
Lord Of The Ring
………And so it came to pass that the Dark Lord became ruler of all the political elite, democratically elected representative swept aside in favour of unelected drones to deliver untruths to the meek electorate.This was the start of the European Empire that claimed the universe for its own, crushing all that stood in the way of the rational free thinking.The final act that gave them ultimate power was the destruction of the inter net, the last bastion of free thought for the people.
FYI
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/10/lancashire_terror_school_film/
Quote:
A lion explains that terrorists can look like anyone, while a cat tells pupils that should get help if they are being bullied and a toad tells them how to cross the road.
The terrorism message is also illustrated with a re-telling of the story of Guy Fawkes, saying that his strong views began forming when he was at school in York. It has been designed to deliver the message of fighting terrorism in an accessible way for children.
1983: Labour Manifesto.
We shall:
Introduce a Freedom of Information Bill, providing for a genuine system of open government and placing the onus on the authorities to justify withholding information.
Reform the administration of government and the civil service machine so that it meets modern needs and is properly accountable to elected representatives.
Take action to abolish the undemocratic House of Lords as quickly as possible and, as an interim measure, introduce a Bill in the first session of parliament to remove its legislative powers – with the exception of those which relate to the life of a parliament.
Make improvements in the legislative process and procedures in the House of Commons.
Reform the procedures for appointments to public bodies to ensure they are more open and genuinely representative of the community.
Overhaul the outdated honours system.
2009 — 20 unelected peers in a cabinet of a democratic country?
Fuck my old boots…
Spot the differences
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act
So now we know precisely why NL reformed the Lords.
Some rumblings about the chipmunk in some interview where she is “close to tears” about all those dreadful expenses “mistakes” and quitting the Cabinet before she was booted business.
I do hope it was an interview with Martin Bashir.
Found it and as it turns out she has done yet another amusing volte-face and now appears to fear the “Star Chamber” treatment.
‘Stupid, thoughtless and cruel’: Hazel Blears reveals her regrets at knifing Brown
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1192520/Stupid-thoughtless-cruel-Hazel-Blears-reveals-regrets-knifing-Brown.html
Poor old chipmunk. Where did it all go wrong dear ?
So if she is stupid and thoughtless, why was she running a Govt. department ?
Wait a minute , appears that’s a necessary qualification.
Perhaps she’s found she can’t get a job in the private sector.
Act in haste, repent at leisure. Let’s hope her leisure is a long one.
With a return to ever increasing fuel costs, she must be looking at her reduced income and thinking she can’t take as many bike rides in her leather gear! Stupid person.
I don’t wish that smug venal little bitch well at all… but it is so obvious that the No.10 attack dogs have been released on Blears to distract us from Shahid Malik and Brown looking like an idiot for re-appointing him.
Malik’s constituents are remarkably silent aren’t they?
One of the listed Lords real job is as a surgeon at St Mary’s Paddington, as opposed to doing his part time job for Gordo. I saw him months ago – he charged me £350 for a 5 min consultation and said he would be get back to me with a date for the operation. Months later, heard nothing from my Lord and still waiting for the operation. Probably too busy fiddling his expenses.
And yet more bad news …
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/5508065/Calls-for-Brown-to-go-nuclear-in-City-battle-with-EU.html
I often wonder why my dear old Dad bothered to fight for the freedom of this country in WWll. He would be incandescent with rage if he were alive today.
Blears bleating to pravda this morning
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8096833.stm
Seems the Dark Arts are being used at a lower level to reach chipmunks now !
Why do we need these election thingys anyway. They are terribly tiresome and expensive too. Surely Gordon knows best so why not just abolish them and let him get on with it? After all if every minister is a Lord we don’t NEED an election, do we.
Gordo knows that elections create chaos!
This cabinet has not been chosen by Brown but by Mandelson and that is why there are so many lords, baronesses and other ludicrous outdated fools running our ‘supposedly’ democratic country.
Brown is no longer the real PM the scheming reptile Mandelson has weedled his way into that position ad we will have to live with it until the next general election. This country is a beacon of democracy showing others in the world that it is possible to have an elected dictatorship voted in by a minority of the populace.
Hitler showed how to do it first – using PR.
MINISTER APOLOGISES FOR BEING HONEST AND SAYING WHAT SHE THOUGHT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8096833.stm
Can’t be doing with “honesty” in this Govt now can we.
God forbid !!
Brought a tear to my glass eye.
Poor wee lamb.
…my heart bleeds…..
Blears interview – regrets everything but especially wearing that brooch but it’s the fault of the intense media pressure wot made her do it. Silly woman
Will be shown on Sky during day.
It’s on the Manchester Evening News site. Blears minus smug grin. Read the comments from her constituents afterwards:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1120375_blears_my_regrets
Thank you for that Anonymous – Hazel must be so proud of herself to see how popular she is in Manchester! A real lesson in realising that sometimes you should just keep your mouth shut.
It is a mystery to me why politicians (and journalists )seem incapable of using the word “liar”.
Lord Ashdown – probably the most sanctimonious patronizing p0litician ever-stated yesterday that Gordon Brown gave dishonest answers to Cameron and deliberately misled the House.
He then corrected himself and withdrew the word “deliberately ”
How very gracious and gentlemanly ,how very well mannered.
It is interesting to note the big change in the attitude of Liberal politicians ,it was only about 30 years ago when party leaders would arrange for the murder of anyone telling lies about them ,espcially about matters sexual
It’s in the house rules AFAIAA.
Others could probably clarify.
They killed my dog!
Justice for Rinka!!
Let’s have a fully elected Upper Chamber without titles, with anyone who has ever been an MP or sat on any council with powers greater than those of a parish council or been a member of a quango disqualified from standing for election.
Once that is in place and peerages dissociated from government, life peerages can be discontinued and we can go back to awarding proper hereditary peerages to eminent persons who deserve them for service to their country (which, of course, excludes all professional politicians).
No let’s have an upper house chosen by random selection of the populus – it would be hoot and in strict keeping with the essence of Ancient Greek democratic principles.
Elected politicians can produce the legislation, we the people can ratify and amend as WE see fit.
It’s like a representative referendum chamber.
If we the people don’t like it then it goes back for amendment or they can all go eff orf.
The sight of Toenails at rest like a tramp under a Westminster hedge on This Week last night was a tonic. For realism’s sake, a passing drunk should have been given a tenner and a bottle of Buckfast and instructed to piss in his ear.
I’m going to carry around 1/2 dozen rotten eggs in my handbag in case I see any BBC apparachtiks or politicians…
In the final analysis I fear the expenses scandal has merely served to raise the bar in terms of the level of corruption the masses will now tolerate.
Blatant lies and fraud are still revealed daily, but now barely raise an eyebrow amongst the sheeple.
Like violence and selfish aggression on tv has conditioned us to accept a more disrespectful society I now think political sleaze has quickly become shoulder-shrugging accepted fact.
Short of video of cabinet ministers eating babies I can easily see another term of Labour and at the very least decades more of the same old lies and corruption whoever governs.
good points
How likely is it that Lord Prince of Doom Mandelson will be leader very soon?
He became the effcetive leader last Friday
That’s it, of course!
Mandlescum is playing the part of Thoth/Mercury/Hermes, the messenger of the ‘gods’!!
Gordon Brown he da King
Thatcher breaks her arm in a fall !
Didn’t she shake hands with Jonah recently ?
I hope she counted her fingers.
No, but Thatcher recently tripped up the Pope in Rome to shake his hand.
The Pope met Jonah last February – ergo: Thatcher broken arm courtesy of Jonah by proxy.
Know what? I’m going to send her a get well soon card. Don’t times change?
The undemocratic nature of government would be a lesser (and tolerable?) problem if the bastards at least had a clue about their field of responsibility. The Lords was never intended to be an elected Chamber simply because, if it were, it could claim mandate to halt legislation from Commons. The point of Lords is that is/was supposed to filled with people who knew things and could thus scrutinize and improve or sense-check Bills from Commons. The NuLab apparatchiks now in Lords are exactly what the rest of Nulab and the Cons are: useless rogues who haven’t a clue but think themselves better than the rest of us.
On Ashdown, I heard that Scumbag (deliberately capitalised because he would consider it an honour) made a killing on property deals in the former Yugoslavia.
Their responsibilities lie with themselves first, party second, and the electorate come a very poor third.
See Hazel Blears grovel. For once she isn’t wearing that nauseating smug grin:
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/1120375_blears_my_regrets
She’s not very popular in Salford, is she.
She’s not very popular, full stop.
The cretins will vote her back in though.
Thick-as-shit Labour voters never learn.
Unfortunately, most labour supporters are not very bright and are taken in by the scare tactics of Mandelson and co.
If Labour voters can be relied upon to elect Mandelson as an MP in Hartlepool, and David Miliband in wherever, then they really are a thick useless bunch of knuckle-draggers.
Tory cuts
Tory cuts SQWUAK
Tory cuts
What a load of contrived bollocks. She knew perfectly well what she was doing when she flounced out wearing her silly little badge. This is now all about trying to save her skin in Salford following the backlash, nothing more. If she is trying to suggest that her timing was just a mistake then all I can say is that anyone with such apalling judgement should never be allowed anywhere near high office. And then to hear her whinge about 4 weeks of relentless pressure from the media – she was lucky to get away with only that.
there is something sinister going on here.mc mental is doing everything possible to stay in power…….as usual bending the rules.just like moving the goalposts of his 5 year economic plans (remember that)?
it is totally obscene that he can put anyone in to the govt.!!!!!!!!
it shits in the face of democracy…….
this ‘man’ disgraces our country and Parliament……
he must be delusional if he thinks that 85% of voters that rejected him last week are not aware of his crimes!
Always putting hard working families first?
mandy swore to never say anything bad about the EU!!!!!!!!
how is that looking after uk interests?
a TRAITOR !
The Kinnocks……..useless windbags wih expert troughing skills…….
again doing the EU work………what a complete joke neil was when he was pm………
again and again gordon cheats the people……..surely this is treason?
when is someone going to lock them all up?
Kinnock was never PM.
Thank God…………
No, thank Margaret Thatcher, John Major and the Tories.
William Hague has already done this to death in the Commons and it’s all over the News. Come up with something new.
Why should he?!
It`s our “Democratic” right to know after all.
[...] Guido Fawkes has a list of all the unelected Lords and Ladies who are working for Mr Brown and who owe no duty of loyalty to anyone except him. – 20 of them, would you believe! Astonishing that he doesn’t seem to have enough people in his own benches in the Commons to run the government… that must be very pleasing for his own MPs. [...]
Where do the posts keep disappearing to?
To the Ministry of Love of course.
I`am sure you will receive a letter soon inviting you down, only the most privileged of Citizens are bestowed such an invite.
Apart from her final year in office, Thatcher always had 3, sometimes 4 Lords in her Cabinet, including for 5 years a Deputy Prime Minister in Viscount Whitelaw (who had incidentally been give a hereditary peerage by the PM).
None of this is anything new.
It’s a measure of how naive, gullible and infantilised many of the population of the UK have become that so many of them are swallowing this guff about the recssion ending and “green shoots” appearing in the economy.
The general election campaign has started and Brown and his media stooges want to convince enough people that he has saved us from economic meltdown.
It’s all cobblers of course. QE and historically low base rates have temporarily put off the consequences of our massive public and private debt for a few months longer.
I agree with you completely.
However, I did notice yesterday that most newspapers, whilst reporting Mandleson’s spin about ‘green shoots’ – they were all doubting it.
Many people think the worse of the recession is to come in the autumn when we will have run away inflation and another banking crisis. There are certainly NO real green shoots at the moment – just spin and lies.
It is interesting that the people who perpetuated yesterday’s lie about recovery are either government agencies or nationalised banks! Mandelson clearly thinks we are all fools!
Watch America – are there really green shoots?
“………Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) of California is threatening to make State Government come to a grinding halt if lawmakers don’t solve the $24 billion deficit before California runs out of cash next month.”………..
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/politics&id=6861285
House prices have only stopped falling because we’ve run out of housing stock… no-one in their right mind would want to sell unless they absolutely had to atm. But wow — house prices have stopped losing 2% in value a month and it’s showtime again.
If this can be called a rally, it’s a suckers rally.
when will the prols break into parliament, drag out broon and h is happy band, and dangle them from lamp posts, then cut off their f****g heads and parade them around Whitehall? It’s got to happen.
Naah, too busy watching East Enders an Big Bruvver, innit!
Brown, Sugar
How come you dance so good
Brown, Sugar
Scarred old slaver know hes doin alright.
Hear him whip the women just around midnight.
Drums beating, cold English blood runs hot,
Mandy of the House wondrin where its gonna stop.
House boy knows that hes doin alright.
You should a heard him just around midnight.
Ah Brown, Sugar
So that’s why Blears, Flint, Smith, and Kennedy all resigned.
Those crazy Eagle sisters seem well up for it though!!
“He saved the world and Obama came to Britain to learn how….” according to Mandlebore and this is the thanks he gets?
http://www.thedailyshow.com/
Check 4 min 30 seconds.
“Unelected and democratically unaccountable ministers who owe their positions and loyalty only to Gordon Brown…”
It’s all he has left and when his ego is threatened they will have to do.
In reality he has harmed his reputation and legacy already by clinging on so desperately. But in Gordon’s mind he is still PM and that’s all that matters.
Add in Manchester Evening News (lost & Found section)
Lost one smug grin.
last seen on political media.
Distinguishing Marks,topped by a red hue.
If found return to self serving, soon to be ex MP.
Getting worried about losing her nice little earner I presume. What next, is lizard-lips Purnell also going to cry into his paws and apologise for the hurt he caused to our esteemed PM by walking out or because nobody followed him?
Deeply ironic and depressing that we are now less democratic than Iran
Now that Mandelson is “First Secretary of State”, what happens if Gordon gets run over by a bus? Could we end up with an unelected Prime Minister?
No…………..
HAS MANDY A PSV LICENCE?
Great comrade, dear leader, saviour of the world and president prudence of Gord Britain will have us believe he is a democrat much along the same lines as the democratic republic of Korea is a free country! His junta is stuffed with the great unwashed and unelected toadies from the upper trough, like the unelected Brown they answer to no one but he, who in turn answers to those poor wee foolish Scots dumb enough to vote for him in that other jurisdiction now run by the SNP. Beware farmers of the UK, for Browngabe’s next trick he has ordered the redistribution of land and has ordered his cadres to seize all farms in the ‘subversive pro hunting’ Tory voting shires. King (or should that be Queen?) Mandelsnake will then tour her new domain and will appoint overseers to make up food and tractor production numbers to be broadcast as part of Brown Broadcasting Corp’s autumn schedule replacing factual programmes but squeezed in between BGT and Eastender’s. All hail the new Emperor(ess) Lord/Lady Mandelsnake, Lord of blah blah blah poo bah and his puppet Chairman ‘one eyed bottler’ Brown of cowardice, lies, incompetence and some place near Dundee. The UK is now officially a banana republic in all but name. The Queen can retire and go into exile in Scotland and we can all look forward to handing over all our earnings to the politburo for redistribution on the sink estates which make up the Labour heartlands.
Get a grip man, deep breaths, in out in out slowly now.
@ Irished:
Couldn’t have put it any better myself. Well said that man! *Much hearty ‘Huzzah’-ing”
Gordon the Gobbler liked eating his snot
Not just a little but rather a lot
When one of his ministers politely asked why
Gordon had him tortured and re-educated at a democratic renewal camp until the minister swore undying allegiance to the supreme leader and saviour of the world.
Democracy is so last century, welcome to parasitocracy, government by parasites.
Guido’s a natural for the Lords.
You could never tell whether he was asleep, dead or pissed.
For god’s sake, it comes to something when you’re attacking Brown for having a peer in the Cabinet who’s Leader of the House of LORDS. Grow up.
You are too simplistic in your observation. I think you will find that the attack is on the whole rotten unelected, unaccountable system and the manipulation of that system by the old jaw twitcher – not just one peer.
Yes Guido, this is indeed a very sinister development. Not only do we have the Government writing one thing in its manifesto and then with some Orwellian sleight of hand, reneging on their promise (EU constitution referendum) and then the EU ignoring referenda in other countries, alongside the democratic deficit of not having elected the current Prime Minister (who didn’t even stand for election for the top job himself), our laws largely made in the EU, we now have a government staring into the abyss of a loss of power, attempting to change the voting system in its favour. This is, as I said, SINISTER. If it goes ahead, I will rise from my armchair and go out on the campaign trail. I love my country, but I’m very worried about how things are developing.
Labour came to power promising to reform the House of Lords, they didnt say anything about abolishing the House of Commons which appears to be Gordos goal.
Bloody hell.
Mandelson only needs one more title for the full set!
What about “Lord High Boner of the Flaming Ringpiece”?
What a shower of shit!!!
Rear-Gunner also likes a Brazilian in a nursing outfit. Oooh matron.
isnt it about time we restored the monarchy. cheaper and more effective than the troughing commons
as Ive said in my blog, if you are serious about democratic reform you don’t wait until you know you are going to lose the election and jump on it to try to rig the system.
more than that though, what type of idiot drones on about democratic reform and then uses more non-democratically elected people to serve in your government? I would have thought that this is the perfect way to undermine democratic renewal and help persuade people to move to the extremes.
then again we all know it is not about democracy but about operation ‘save Gordon’.
Gordon Brown’s stealthy way of clearing out the house of Lords-
Put them all in the Cabinet
The Welsh are coming – again!
http://tinyurl.com/lksnk2