June 9th, 2009

ComRes Johnson / Hung Parliament Poll

That ComRes poll frontpaged on the Indy this morning is interesting.  Just one note of caution, ComRes was the least accurate of the major pollsters last week. They say today that if Johnson replaced Brown, the the Tory share of the vote would be reduced 2% and the Labour share of the vote increased 4%.

ComRes got the shares of the votes wildy wrong in the euro-elections, the BNP actually tripled the share that ComRes predicted, the Greens doubled the share predicted and Labour got 7% less than they predicted.  Massive errors in polling terms, take this poll with a 7% pinch of salt.


1,452 Comments

  1. 1
    Balloon says:

    Wish I could be first for once, unlike our Glorious Leader

    • 6
      Charles Hardwidge says:

      He who comes first comes last.

      I never come at all, it’s the drugs.

      • 10
        Charles E Hardwidge says:

        Somebody is imitating me again, and making a very good job of it.

        I am Charles E Hardwidge!

        • 12
          Charles Hardwidge says:

          You’re not Charles Hardwidge, you’re a twat.

          Oh… sorry…

        • 19
          Charles Hardfudge says:

          No, I’m Charles and so is my wife.

        • 23
          ©The real Charles Hardwidge™ says:

          Stop this and stop this now.

          Nurse!

        • 25
          Cyco Billy says:

          Not Charles H&E Hardwidge?

        • 38
          Charles E Hardwidge says:

          Who is Charles Hardwidge?

        • 68
          Charles Hardwidge (the real real one) says:

          I am Charles Hardwidge, and I claim my £15!

        • 84
          Charles E. Halfwit says:

          But I’M Charles Halfwit !

        • 112
          Headache drew girls says:

          Hedge Swirl Charade

        • 123
          Charles Hardwidget says:

          I’m getting sick of you twats impersonating me, I shall be taking legal action.

          As for the ComRes poll, it’s meaningless because Johnson will not become leader. Gordon Brown will lead Labour to victory in 2010 and then Miliband will replace him.

        • 138
          Angus Prune says:

          I’m the King Rat!

        • 192
          Harman Pride says:

          Nonsense Charles, Gordon will lead us to victory and be replaced by Harriet Harman, who will make it illegal to own a penis.

        • 600
          albacore says:

          Angus Prune @ 137:
          I’m sorry I read that again, again.

        • 767
          Charles E Hardwidge III says:

          Have we started yet Dad?

        • 873

          I am Charles Hardwidge’s dad … I think.

        • 1041
          Will Hutton says:

          I am Charles Hardwidge.

        • 1076
          you know nuffink says:

          we can spam any bad noos now ? thas great
          I gonna spam everythink now first first first first

        • 1152
          Nan Tucket says:

          I heard that Charles only has days to live, it was in Nick Robinsons blog. His terminals got cancer or something.

          Anyway, mock the afflicted. He deserves it so he does.

        • 1203
          thick as thieves says:

          you guys do know this isn’t sp@stics.com, don’t you?
          well done.
          for sp@stics.

          eviction notice for labour party: issued on 9th June 2009.
          fuck off you fucking bunch of corrupt fucking c’unts.
          do you know what that noise was when gordon (satan’s bitch) entered the room for the meeting?
          THAT WAS THE SOUND OF THE DEVIL’S HOOVES AS HE GALLOPED ROUND THE ROOM.
          you have sold out the labour movement and your names have been noted.
          people have been hanged for less than the crimes you have committed against those you claim to represent.
          you warmongers have hijacked the labour government and you are directly responsible for entering this country and its people into illegal wars and occupations..
          you fucking sell out wankers. you fucking criminal. whores are more honest than you bastards.
          and now you dare to support the most fucking useless prime minister this country has ever seen just so you can screw another year’s cash out of the public purse: you are thieves and whores every single one of you.
          fuck you labour. you c’unts are on you own.
          MOTHERFUCKERS. GONNA GET IT NOW MOTHERFUCKERS.
          keep my promises.

          note to co-conspirators: fellow citizens, is this the signal for the hangings to begin?
          I say let the fuckers swing, they are only zombie satanist motherfuckers anyway. it is God’s work and so must be done with haste.
          shall we schedule mandelson for first up?

          note to self: head must be completely removed from zombie’s body to be sure that the zombie is dead.
          then stamp on brains.

        • 1331
          solopolis says:

          I’m Spartacus!

        • 1358
          Mr Ned says:

          Thick as Thieves…

          The illegal Iraq war is one of the few things I wholeheartedly agree with you on. Those bastards (in both parties) that voted for it should be tried for war crimes and once found guilty, HUNG for it!

      • 89
        Charles graphics fidelity is my middle name Hardwidge says:

        I’m freeeee !

      • 951
        violent communist bootboys says:

        ter·ror·ism (tr-rzm)
        n.
        The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons

        • 1149
          Dr Nuts says:

          Describes Labours policy on the smokers, fatties and wealthy accurately!

          • Anon says:

            The Labour party are the ultimate party of hatred. Hatred of the “rich” is their core motivation, even when this is not expressed overtly. Next time the Labour party or a communist one have a meeting near you, organise a counter protest against incitement to social hatred!

        • 1336
          Call me Infidel says:

          Militants don’t you mean?

      • 1003
        UAF rent a mob backed by `Dave` says:

        UAF the unions rent a mob attack MEPs, police nowhere to be seen!

        what kind of banana republic are we liviung in?

      • 1092
        Joshua Chambers says:

        Someone needs to tell Brown “It’s not the economy, stupid, it’s you. Sorry Gordon.”

        In fact, I have: http://joshuachambers.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/so-theyve-made-their-choice-or-on-leadership/

        It seemed like the right thing to do.

      • 1361
        going down the pan says:

        is your widge really that hard ?

    • 18
      Gordon Brown says:

      It started in America.

      • 27
        ©The real Charles E Handwidget™ says:

        …except when standing next to President Omaha.

      • 227
        Dr Phyllis Starkey MP says:

        Give me a Cabinet job, you swine!

      • 861

        Really Sir, your comment deserves no repost from the likes of moi.

        I exist on a higher plane altogether. My views are sought by Kings. And several Queens. Begone, plebian riff raff!

    • 37
      Brown is a NWO puppet says:

      What morons still believes in polls?

      They are pure propaganda.

      Check the betting odds.

      • 66
        Charles Hardwidge (the real real one) says:

        I believe in polls.

      • 76
        'Sir' Bob Worcester says:

        I believe in polls

      • 957
        Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

        This report troubles me. Either I’m being naif (very possible) or the Indy is making the elementary mistake of equating share of the poll with share of parliamentary seats.

        In sharing out the votes, it really matters WHERE they are cast: a 100% rise in NuLab’s vote in its safe seats would make no difference at all, whereas if that were to happen in Surrey it could lead to upsets.

        So, more votes IN THE RIGHT PLACES is what makes a difference. I could find no evidence in the article that this had been taken into account……but then, I didn’t scrutinise it that closely – it is only the Indy after all. And I’m trying to have a life; all the good news from Planet Politics keeps on distracting me.

        • 1106

          Don’t worry, it’s just the Nulabordependent passing the hankies around their sobbing readership.

        • 1150
          Richard Timney's Thoughts escape says:

          Ise no throbbing readership as it does not have pictures of Rhian Sudgen (Manchester) or Sam Cooke (Manchester).
          Why does the redditch rag have to have that Jacqui Smith?

        • 1370
          Mr Ned says:

          It’s just the Blairites at the Indy trying to tempt that feckless coward Johnson into taking a risky decision for ONCE in his waste of a life.

          It won’t work. Brown is now, officially established as the worst labour leader in their entire history. OFFICIAL!

          Johnson has admitted on numerous occasions, publicly and on camera, that he is even worse than Brown.

          EVEN IF he grew a pair, and the rest of the cowards in the parliamentary labour party grew some too, and they magically acquired some organisational competence (without Mandelson) and they managed to topple Brown(one in a billion chance). Every election broadcast by every other party would be showing Johnson admitting publicly himself that he is even WORSE than Brown.

          Johnson is FINISHED as a prospect for labour leader and his abject cowardice and incompetence is what finished him.

      • 1111
    • 143
      Stronghold Barricades says:

      Its all within the rules

      • 153
        A Very Sad Labour Supporter says:

        Of course it is. We wrote them!

        • 408
          Dr Nuts says:

          Gordon Brown relaxed them – nothing like buying off the electorate… when the electorate is the PLP!

    • 314
      Anonymous says:

      Got to love the astroturfers making sure that the comments are unreadable. Keep it up boys – not as if anyone is reading LabourList any more, is it? Also not as if you were successful in helping Labour to their resounding victory in the local/European elections.

    • 661
      Man on the Clapham omnibus says:

      £17 BILLION IN TAXES REMAINS UNPAID AND WILL GO HIGHER

      http://financialadvice.co.uk/news/11/tax/10912/UK-government-sees-unpaid-pay-taxes-rise-to-17-billion.html

      If this is true – why?

      • 671
        Man on the Clapham omnibus says:

        More encouraging new – not

        http://www.rttnews.com/Content/AllEconomicNews.aspx?Node=B2&Id=973805

        “it is unclear whether the financial system can generate the expansion of credit that is required to support recovery……..”

        • 1402
          Mr Ned says:

          So these (rapidly dwindling) labour supporters who are desperately hoping for an economic recovery, (by the time the cowardly Gordon is forced by our constitution to finally hold an election), that will be built entirely on trying to re-inflate the massive and catastrophically damaging debt bubble? The same Gordon Brown brand debt bubble that fucked our economy so badly and made this recession, (which is actually getting deeper at the moment), far worse than would have been the case in the face of the global downturn.

          If Brown had not encouraged the blatantly irresponsible lending by the banking sector and had he not created the tripartite system that removed the previous checks and balances, and IF he had acted like a responsible or capable chancellor and managed the economy properly (Like Canada or Australia) Then we would have had only a mild downturn and not a full blown recession!

          Now Labour are looking at an additional trillion pounds plus in total of debt to repay!

          How the fuck are they (read ALL OF US TAXPAYERS) going to pay all that back when the repayments are due?

          Oh, Sorry, silly me. They know they will be out of power by the the time the repayments are due, so they are doing everything they can now to fuck the economy totally by the time the tories have to clean up the mess!!!

          In very simple terms, Labour are going totally batshit insane on the country’s credit card to try to buy a much smaller defeat in the general election, (by borrowing heavily to buy temporary “green shoots”), before they stiff the next Government with the insanely high bill and then Labour will lie the country for five years to try to get the country to trust them with power again after four or five years of “tory” recession (caused by trying to pay back the bill)

          Labour are SICK bastards, they really are!

      • 785
        Sir William Waad says:

        They brought in a policy of allowing businesses to delay paying their tax, rather than going bust, so it should hardly be a surprise that the amount of unpaid tax has increased.

        The reasons that a lot of tax goes unpaid are (a) taxes are far too high and people cannot afford to pay them; (b) tax is far too complicated, so that neither the Revenue nor taxpayers can work out what we should pay; (c) Chancellors keep farting around with the tax system, so that just as taxpayers and the Revenue start to understand it, the rules change and (d) the Revenue, like so many organisations, has too many corporate monkeys with meaningless non-job titles and not enough experienced people at the sharp end.

        Now you understand, glasshopper?

      • 1059
        Talwin says:

        The situation should improve once the MPs’ expenses are sorted out.

    • 1365
    • 1403
      Polly Bollocks says:

      I see that Newsnight are talking about the 1,000,000th word in the English language

      It has to be Hoon doesn’t it

      All vote for Hoon I say

  2. 2
    Griff Nutt says:

    Belongs in McNulty’s skip, along with McNulty himself and the rest of the Labour Party — including Postman Pat.

    • 61
      Charles © Hardwidge says:

      I wrote that first on Labour List, it is copyrighted by me and so it this.

      Here, this prooves it ©

    • 566

      Look. Has anyone checked on Gordon? I’m worried about him. I asked his neighbour, old Mr Darling, to pop round and check, but he said that they aren’t on good terms.
      It seems he hasn’t been taking in his newspapers. They all strewn about in the street, as if somebody didn’t want to read them.

      Can some good citizen in the London area pop round and check on him?
      I tried ringing but he didn’t answer his home phone and his mobile just has the message ‘this phone is out of order’

  3. 3
    Papa Lazarou says:

    Today hung, tomorrow a Labour landslide. Amazing how things turn in politics.

  4. 4
    Right Bastard says:

    Irrelevant. Johnson’s bottled it, he’ll never be leader of Zanulab.

    • 36
      Charles E Hardwidge says:

      As I recall, Johnson publicly stated in May 2006 he expected to stand for the post of Deputy Leader of the Labour Party when John Prescott stepped down. Some suggested he might stand against Gordon Brown for the leadership of the Labour Party when Tony Blair resigned, and various reports in the summer of 2006 suggested he would become the favoured candidate of the Blairite faction. Johnson told the BBC in an interview on November 9 2006 that he would in fact be supporting Brown and standing as deputy leader. He was successfully nominated onto the ballot paper for Labour Deputy leader with most number of nominations. On 24 June 2007[, Johnson was narrowly beaten for the deputy leadership by Harriet Harman. He led in rounds 2 to 4 of the voting, until he was overtaken by Harman in the last round, eventually finishing with 49.56% of the vote.
      Initially the Communication Workers Union announced its support of him for deputy leader but after negative reaction to this at the 2007 CWU conference the union decided not to recommend anyone.

      ©The real Charles E Handwidget™

      • 44
        Charles E Hardwidge says:

        You could have added that Johnson has been described as a potential future Leader of the Labour Party. In 2009, columnist Polly Toynbee, noting Johnson’s support for electoral reform called him a “likable new leader” with “the political instinct to shape Labour into something resembling a respectably progressive party”.

        But you’re too stoopid.

        • 56
          Blake's7 says:

          well if Poly says he is good, then on past experience with her insight does in fact mean that he is shit.

        • 110
          shellingout says:

          Who gives a toss what Polly says.

        • 131
          Charles Hardwidget says:

          You will be hearing from my lawyers shortly.

        • 191
          Polly says:

          Give me a cracker!

        • 200
          Bird Spotter says:

          Polly put the kettle on. On your head preferably!

        • 807
          Sir William Waad says:

          Postman Pat, Postman Pat,
          Postman Pat is a Union twat,
          Early in the morning, Just as day is dawning,
          He picks up all Cabinet posts he can.

          Postman Pat, Postman Pat,
          Postman Pat is another fat cat,
          All the birds are singing, and the day is just beginning.
          Pat feels he’s a really lucky man.

          Everybody knows his bright red nose,
          Gordon Brown will ’smile’ as he waves to greet him,
          Maybe… You can never be sure,
          There’ll be knock…[knock knock] smash…[crash bash]
          A police battering ram through your door.

          [Hee Hee]

          Postman Pat, Postman Pat,
          Postman Pat has your DNA off pat,
          All the birds are singing, the ID card frms are grinning.
          Pat feels he’s a really happy man.

        • 890

          Pollt really knows ger stuff, though, doesn’t she? I mean, so objective, and all.

      • 164
        A Very Sad Labour Supporter says:

        Perhaps we should start a campaign for the guy (or gal) who writes Doverwatch as PM. He/She certainly couldn’t do any worse than that one eyed scotch git and at least (s)he’s sort of honest.

  5. 5
    michel de montaigne says:

    Does Guido know when the Telegraph are going to return to the Expenses releases?

    • 7
      Charles Hardwidge says:

      Guido knows nothing. He will have to ask Nick Robinson.

      I love Nick Robinson.

      • 43
        Robinson, N. says:

        Well I don’t love you Charles, so please stop sending me those ‘little gifts’. I’ve got a shoe box full of ‘keepers’ already and I don’t need yours as well.

        And any more ‘Specsavers’ jokes and you’ll be banned from my blog.

        Now go away you odious little man.

      • 107
        Rick Nobinson says:

        Spell my name correctly please, Mr. Halfwit

      • 471
        Boris says:

        LOVE from Dolly

      • 1427
        going down the pan says:

        you love all men pity they dont love you !

  6. 8
    Tom FD says:

    It’s a fun way of messing with the minds of Labour MPs though.

    • 225
      Anonymous says:

      They have minds of their own?

      • 410
        Dr Nuts says:

        Well they certainly mind the fact we’re interested in their troughing.

        That was their pay-off for supporting Brown regardless!

  7. 9
    Anonymous says:

    We had a poll last Thursday called an election, and the message for Labour was a resounding no.

    • 50
      Neph says:

      Trouble is, the party that promised (amongst other things that they have singularly failed to do) to ‘listen’, wasn’t (listening that is).

      Our parliamentary system needed an aenema – what it got was a mild laxative – there’s still some stubborn blockages in place.

    • 176
      Anonymous says:

      we had an election for a body that most of us don’t give a fuck about.

      Even Iran seems to be having elections where the people choose their political leader. Didn’t we used to have those here ?

      • 404
        General Tomahawk-Strike says:

        Iran is living in the past, they punish criminals and should be bombed into our way of democracy before they retaliate for us pre-emptively sorting their friends Iraq out before they attacked us with Blairs evil dilusion rockets.

        • 415
          Dr Nuts says:

          Why don’t we ask the Iranian Jews if Iran hates Israel?

          Or do we only listen to Israel’s opinion?

        • 503
          Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

          Iranians haven’t attacked anyone. No one hates the jews in israel they are probably paranoid about retaliation

      • 1416
        Mr Ned says:

        Iran will soon, the Palestinian Authority did and elected Hamas and then we (and the US) kicked them out. Iraq did, but bush did not like who they picked so forced them to appoint someone else. Russia had one and elected Medvedev with a clear majority (over 50% of those eligible to vote). The last one we had only 22% of the public voted labour. And now we have an unelected fuckwit with only 15% of the share of 31% of the people who voted (meaning a grand total of 4.65% of those eligible to vote actually voted labour.)

        I guess that is why labour (now a tiny fringe party) does not “do democracy” anymore!

  8. 11
    michel de montaigne says:

    Somebody should ask Johnson if he knows what ” neoclassical endogenous growth theory ” means

    • 14
      alan johnson says:

      grownig veg in a posh garden?

    • 363

      It’s a synonym for “massive recession”

    • 426
      Dr Nuts says:

      But we didn’t have that – what we had ‘Classic-Brown is-dodgy-ness growth theory’.

      Let’s face it – we’re not where we are by brilliant economic practice, but by an ars*hol* who thinks he’s a genius and too stupid to realise he isn’t!

    • 571
      Anonymous says:

      it means Ed Balls is a wanker

    • 1324
      RobC says:

      Its a complete and utter load of Balls.
      Balls should know because he coined it and so should Brown because he swallowed it.
      We definitely know because Gormless has spent 2 trillion of borrowed and funny money that our grandchildren will be paying back to fix his neo classical endogenous bust to end all busts.
      When you think of the fiscal pain that these two halfwits have signed us up to,probably over the next 2 decades at least, Don’t you wish we still had a life sentence of hard labour in a penal colony ? – Australia for instance – I know I do. Hanging is definitely far too easy a punishment for this gross mismanagement of the nations assets.

      • 1369
        Dr Nuts says:

        I don’t think the Australians will be too pleased if we restarted our hard work punishments!

        How about using them as shark bait?

  9. 13
    Dr Wolf says:

    I have a well hung poll.

    • 17
      Ian E says:

      I’d rather have a well-hung polly.

    • 441
      Dr Nuts says:

      BBC made reference today to the fact she couldn’t stick to her Degree.

      She’s what the American’s call a ‘flip-flopper’. Thinks one thing one day, another the next.

      But there again, unlike Brown – she has an opinion, he just pre-written one liners and extremely dodgy tractor stats which are crowbarred in to answer any question without actually answering the question!

      Browns favourite Book – How to Lie With Statistics by Darrell Huff. I’ve got a copy, and it was available when Brown was at University!

      That’s his economic and all other policies in one paperback. Hence his tickbox mentality.

  10. 15
    Anonymous says:

    There is of course still the petition which has carried on growing to over 64K signatures.

    • 317
      Jackanory says:

      It’s been around that for a long time. I think people have stopped signing because they could see the Labs in melt down and thought it would not be necessary.

    • 414
      Name witheld says:

      People are scared of retaliation what with GCHQ and mandelson’s dark henchmen.

      • 518
        Peter Grimes says:

        Yup – them dark Brazilians are so fearsome they get assassinated on tube trains!

  11. 16
    Charles Hardwidge says:

    When peace is made after great animosity, the one who was in the wrong is sure to retain a grudge. How can this be settled?
    The wise man keeps his side of the bargain,
    but does not insist on the speedy fulfilment of it by the other.

    • 60
      Charles "Grasshopper" Hardwidge says:

      First gear is often next to reverse. At least it is on my Datsun Cherry.

      Remember that.

      And a big exhaust doesn’t make you more cleverer than me.

      Remember that, too.

    • 402
      Grumpy Old Man says:

      But then in Marxist-Leninist dogma, “Peace is the continuation of the Struggle by other means”, as peace is impossible while Capitalism exists.

    • 476
      Boris says:

      This can be settled by private punch ups every morning in the Bunker..

      Just for Labour to let off steam..

      Like the Australians used to do during the War

      Just to keep themselmves fit…

  12. 20
    You've 'ad yer chance now Feck Off! says:

    It’s quite clear now that McMental is not going to resign, that nobody in Liebore has the spine to challenge him and that they are *all* headed for a huge fucking Thelma & Louise style abyss next May.

    The really distasteful part of their bunker mentality is that it reinforces their core voter’s choice of BNP. did you see them all on the news vox pops last night?

    “Yeah, it’s the immigrants, they take our jobs”
    “We want to keep Christmas!” (really not sure what that daft tart was on)
    “The other’s don’t listen”

    Too fucking right they don’t listen. The British people just gave Libore it’s biggest electoral defeat in years and they think by reshuffling and sticking with Broon it’s going to suddenly make them electable again.

    The result next May will be Adios socialism.

    Cupid Stunts.

  13. 22
    backwoodsman says:

    Don’t forget so far the media have never looked too closely at postman pat’s personality. Apart from being a complete lightweight, he’s also reported to be a nasty bitter and twisted little hoon. He’s unlikely to withstand intensive scrutiny unscathed – personality defects, its what nulab do.

    • 63
      Moley says:

      They do smears too unfortunately.

      How do we know that Anon is not Nick Brown?

    • 118
      Anonymous says:

      So the Postie’s personality is very similar to Brhoon’s.

      Have n’t Liebour got anyone who know how to be a prime minister ?

    • 396
      Seasick Dave says:

      He’s in the Labour Party so that automatically makes him a kunt.

      And he’s near the top of the tree.

      Major kunt.

    • 482
      Boris says:

      The Postie will be totally destroyed by the Dowing Street Smear Unit now..

      Every time these is a cock up in his Department (which will be numerous)

      Loads of shit will descend on him from a great height..

      Just for the fun of it

      Labour can’t help being NASTY…even to each other

      It’s Pavlovian you see !!!

      • 582
        Lofa on the Sofa says:

        too true Boris, McMental will want to get his revenge, all of those denials by Pat, whilst he had a team on standby to begin his leadership bid if Broon went.

        Expect some subtle smearing of Pat to begin soon.

    • 665
      Anonymous says:

      Who is Alan Johnson? He seems to have risen without trace. He turned up at Health after billions of pounds had been pumped in and everyone stopped worrying about it and started worrying about losing their job, their house and their life savings. No doubt we will eventually hear about all his bad decisions in a couple of years time.

      The Economist mentioned, in a throw away line, he is an ex-Marxist. Can you imagine if a Tory who was possibly only weeks away from being PM being described as an ex-Fascist in such a throw away manner. The Tories wouldn’t let an ex-Fascist stand for the local council. But hey this Labour anything goes.

      Do the British people really know anything about Johnson? I don’t think so.

      • 900
        Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

        Ask a post delivery operative what they think of him. (Clue-not not in top flavours)

  14. 24
    Geordie McScoot (I'm turning Scottish for tax reasons - section me) says:

    Well, they blew that chance last night. There may be something in it as Labour’s biggest problem is the apathy (and ignorance) of their core voters. The traditional Labour voter in the heartlands rarely gets off its collective arse for anything, but if they were scared into thinking their benefits and social housing were at stake, and the bloke in charge was a bit simpler like them, enough of them may be conned into making an effort. However, although they breed like rabbits to secure more benefits, there is not enough of them to deliver a Labour victory, but they may save the party from total wipeout.

    • 133
      Papa Lazarou says:

      If they changed the name to the LaBurberry Party it might just save them. Oh, and make Jeremy Kyle a peer.

      • 458
        Anonymous says:

        Does that involve encasing his feet in concrete and dropping him in the sea?

  15. 26
    Democrat says:

    Cameron MUST Go! Why?

    Brown has shown he can command the respect of his MP’s. Cameron can’t hold the centre which is splitting between UKIP, BNP, No2EU, EngDem and the others.

    He must move over so we can unite either behind someone that commands the respect of the right OR he puts forward a bold new vision of a separate English Parliament and spikes the corrupt, crony ridden Westminster.

    Its time to take back England and get rid of these parvenu socialists

    • 662
      lens says:

      To found a great empire for the sole purpose of raising up a people of customers, may at first sight appear a project fit only for a nation of shopkeepers. It is, however, a project altogether unfit for a nation of shopkeepers, but extremely fit for a nation that is governed by shopkeepers.

  16. 28
    NBeale says:

    ComRes and Ipsos-Mori both have historic standard deviations of over 3, so they are as you say the least accurate of the pollsters. The last ComRes poll under-estimated the C Lead by over 7 points. So we need to take these with a pinch of salt.

  17. 29
    Democrat says:

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    Why?

  18. 30
    michel de montaigne says:

    Brown ” I have learned that you solve the problem not by walking away from it but by facing up to it”

    Must have gone back to Janet and John book 2. The PLP where to a man making notes furiously when he postulated this one

  19. 31
    Democrat says:

    “Cameron MUST Go! Why?”

    Is this moderated?

  20. 33
    olly says:

    cheeky chappy johnson v toff cameron. johnson wins?

    http://fsn.typepad.com/blog/

  21. 34
    Tips from the top says:

    Today’s tip: How to dance the Gay Gordons

    The Gay Gordons

    Formation: couples around the room facing anti-clockwise, ladies on the right.

    Music: 2/4 or 4/4 march. E.g. “Scotland the Brave”, “The Gay Gordons”.

    Bars: Description
    1-2: Right hands joined over lady’s shoulder (man’s arm behind her back) and left hands joined in front, walk forward for four steps, starting on the right foot.
    3-4: Still moving in the same direction, and without letting go, pivot on the spot (so left hand is behind lady and right hand is in front) and take four steps backwards.
    5-8: Repeat in the opposite direction.
    9-12: Drop left hands, raise right hands above lady’s head. Lady pivots on the spot. (The man may set).
    13-16: Joining hands in ballroom hold, polka round the room.
    Repeat ad lib.

    For scottish country dancers, the grip in the first eight bars is allemande hold.

    Tomorrow tip will be on Scottish Fiddling: Scottish fiddling, even to many an untrained ear, can be distinguished from other Celtic and folk fiddling styles by its particular precision of execution and energy in the delivery

    • 46
      Right Bastard says:

      Knees bend arms stretch Rah! Rah! Rah!

      • 87

        Krafwerk version; (OK, Bill Bailey really)

        Man streckt den linken Arm ein, den linken Arm aus
        Ein, aus, ein, aus
        Man schüttelt alles rum
        Man macht das Hokey-Kokey und man dreht sich herum
        Das ist die ganze Sache
        Ja, das Hokey-Kokey
        Knie gebeugt, Arme gestreckt
        Ra, ra, ra

        Man streckt das linke Bein ein, das linke Bein aus
        Ein, aus, ein, aus,
        Man schwenkt alles rum
        Man macht das Hokey Cokey
        Und man dreht sich herum
        Das ist die ganze Sache

        Ja, das Hokey Cokey
        Ja, das Hokey Cokey
        Ja, das Hokey Cokey
        Knie gebeugt, Arme gestreckt,
        Ra ra ra

        Man springt die ganze Zeit ein die ganze Zeit aus
        Ein, aus, ein, aus,
        Man schwenkt alles rum
        Man macht das Hokey Cokey
        Und man dreht sich herum
        Das ist die ganze Sache

        Ja, das Hokey Cokey
        Ja, das Hokey Cokey
        Ja, das Hokey Cokey
        Knie gebeugt, Arme gestreckt,
        Ra ra raaaaaaa

      • 327
        Weiner says:

        I am a biscuit?

        • 844
          Sir William Waad says:

          Lady Waad (nee Schwanzlutscher) tells me that “ich bin ein Berliner” was grammatically and idiomatically right. If Kennedy had said “ich bin Berliner” it would have meant that he literally was from Berlin and would have been incorrect. It is necessary to use the indefinite article ‘ein’ when speaking figuratively. There is a jelly doughnut called a Berliner but the notion that Kennedy confused himself with one is false.

          It’s just as well he wasn’t in Hamburg at the time.

        • 1193
          Jethro says:

          …and of course, we all know why the stupid Americans invented the word ‘Beefburger’: not knowing that ‘A Hamburg Steak’ was a steak made out of mince, and (typically) fried (what we often call ‘A Rissole’), didn’t want potential customers be put off by thinking it was a made from minced ham…

    • 673
      Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

      Can we colostomy bag-piping please?

  22. 35
    Democrat says:

    Cameron MUST Go! Why?

    Brown has shown he can command the respect of his MP’s. Cameron can’t hold the centre which is splitting between UKIP, [Edited], No2EU, EngDem and the others.

    He must move over so we can unite either behind someone that commands the respect of the right OR he puts forward a bold new vision of a separate English Parliament and spikes the corrupt, crony ridden Westminster.

    Its time to take back England and get rid of these parvenu socialists

    • 77
      Anonymous says:

      The only reason Brown is still there is because the Labour MPs are seared of the voters. they know they will be kicked out and need to stay as long as possible to get a larger pension.

      • 211
        Select Menu & Exit Auto says:

        They will be seared after the application of the metoforical red hot poker up where the sun is in the shade. The next election is going to be about europe because unless we come out you wont get weekly bin collections.

      • 1422
        Mr Ned says:

        I am delighted that the labour MPs are too cowardly to kick Brown out. This way we ALL get our opportunity to give Brown the kicking he fully deserves at the election.

        If they had dumped him, we would have felt cheated.

        Cameron should send Brown a BIG thank you card.

    • 196
      Innocent Bystander says:

      It is only a matter of time, and sooner than later is my guess, that Brown will start the briefing against those against whom he bears grudges. It’s a character thing and his is dark and spiteful.

      He has delayed his execution but not avoided it. His treatment of Darling has been despicable, IMHO. Not that we should overlook the latter’s flipping.

      Also, this has not been a triumph for Brown. Mandleson pulled it off and will now expect his dues. When he is betrayed by Brown, the poison will flow again.

      CM Dave’s only problem is to get rid of Brown before he buggers up the economy any further.

      • 449
        Dr Nuts says:

        Dave’s problem is if Brown goes before the election – there might be a contest!

  23. 39
    I've Shagged Darling's eyebrows says:

    Malik back as communities minister

    • 49
      Right Bastard says:

      Minus massage chair.

    • 135
      Tin Cunliffe says:

      Have they worked out what the market rent for a house in Dewsbury is?

      50p a week?

      • 1224
        I've Shagged Darling's eyebrows says:

        Isn’t it strange that the Communities Minister should be renting from a convicted slumlord.

    • 403
      Alien8n says:

      Wasn’t the real reason he was being investigated something to do with thousands of pounds of phantom mortgage claims? Notice the beeb only mention that paying less for a 3 bed place than the landlord was charging for a 1 bed place is somehow still a “Market rate”

      • 1343
        Augeas says:

        Real Hutton stuff. Deliberately ask the wrong question so you can exonerate a guilty man. Is is racist to call this a whitewash?

    • 489
      Boris says:

      Yes

      Let’s have a real New Labour Tribal Bustup (or ? Bantustan !)

      Send him to Luton to pour oil on the FLAMES…

    • 1379
      MI5 says:

      Yes

      and the “findings” of the New Labour Politburo have been kept SECRET ?

      WHY ?

      It is OUR MONEY that he has stolen

      We have a right to know the details and why he has been whitewashed ?

  24. 40
    RavingMad says:

    In the beginning was ‘the Bottler’

    Now, after two of the most miserable years in the last century, ‘the Bottler’ is still amongst us. Not only that but he now has some 300+ friends. From this day forward they shall be known as the Great British Bottler Party. They hold no mandate and have no talent except to ‘bottle’ things in the most dramatic of ways. Who knows what they will ‘bottle’ next? Who cares anymore, the ship on which they sail is sinking, the land which they have tilled in broke. It’s downward to the sea bottom from here….

    • 52
      Right Bastard says:

      But his grip is weakening as he dangles over the edge of the cliff. The British electorate are waiting, albeit impatiently, to stamp on his fingers.

    • 119
      shellingout says:

      I do think his days are numbered. Parnell has already said he will stand against Brown, and Johnson is favourite. They need to get their ratings up in the polls and Gordon will have to be sacrificed eventually. I hope it’s extremely painful for him.

      • 195
        bandersnatch says:

        Don’t give Parnell much of a chance… Didn’t he get into a spot of bothersome scandal? Any rate… though the Bottler is moribund, Parnell is dead.

  25. 42
    Old Tory says:

    We seem to have forgotten the plight of the economy and Labour’s failed policies. I hold the PARTY responsible for failing to see the property bubble, the banking fiasco, the MPs expenses farce. I blame the US Treasury, the Bank of England, The FSA, and NuLabour, for the mess we are in. I can get rid of one shower but not the others. It makes no difference to me who the leader is, could be Nebercanezzer for all I’m concerned.
    How many years of Labour “investing” has ended up on the UK’s Credit Card, tell me.

    • 71
      Hoons the lot of them says:

      Cameron should humiliate Obama Brown at PMQs. He laid off him last week as he though he was finished…
      Get those craven cabinet MEMBERS and backbenchers squirming with embarrassment and regret that they are stuck with him until the Autumn or more likely until electoral oblivion next year.

      • 85
        Gecko says:

        But he wont. Cameron is a wimp and the tories do not “really” want an election now. They are as cowardly as Labour. The whole lot of them need to be chucked out of office. Thoroughly fed up of the electoral and parliamentary systems in the Country. No accountability, no respect for the public.

    • 171
      Fausty says:

      George Osborne says that the wide expectation of a Conservative government is already improving confidence in the economy and “shaping the recovery”

      In which case, it would be irresponsible of Labour to seek re-election.

    • 689
      Anonymous says:

      C & G closures and redundancies a direct consequence of Gordon Brown’s rescuing of…….Scottish fucking Banks……ignorant twat that he is!!!

      • 755
        Hoons the lot of them says:

        Lloyds TSB was once a good bank until Jonah got involved…

        Role call of Scottish banks

        RBS
        BoS
        Dumbferline

        the bazzzzzzzzztuddsdddddddd
        (ALso Northern Wreck is nearly in Scotland)

        • 1159
          Ian academic says:

          The RBS got in trouble as a result of buying National Westminster a bank based in London.
          The Bank of Scotland’s troubles were caused by buying the Halifax a bank based in Yorkshire.
          An Australian bank owns the Yorkshire and the Clydesdale and it is not in trouble.
          Only foreigners should be allowed to buy British banks.

  26. 45
    Shahid Malik Cleared - 0ffered Job in Government says:

    Shahid Malik was cleared by Standards Commissioner this morning.

    Malik’s Wiki says:

    In an article in the 15th May edition of the “The Sun” newspaper Malik was described as the “most expensive MP” with respect to his claims for expenses and that he had recouped the cost of his house in just three years. They also report that he claimed £730 for a massage chair and £2,600 for a home cinema system but that officials had only allowed him half of what he claimed. They also assert that he claimed back a £65 fine for non-payment of council tax.

    On May 15rd, 2009, Malik was criticised for designating as his second home the property he bought in London four years before becoming an MP, while renting a cut price property in his constituency from a Landlord who was prosecuted and fined for letting out an uninhabitable property. A neighbour said that Mr Malik only used the property at weekends and a member of his staff stayed there during the week.

    “He [Mr Malik] is a good friend and neighbour,” she said. “He comes here just at the weekends… Usually he comes here alone.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_Malik

    • 55
      Personable bloke in offie says:

      MP Anthony Steen offered a job in Gordon Brown’s “Cabinet of all the Troughers” as Large Housing Minister.

      Rumours are also circulating of his imminent elevation to the upper house as Lord Marie Antoinette of Balmoral.

    • 122
      shellingout says:

      Billy no mates, eh?

    • 209
      Bird Spotter says:

      Malik – that’s not a British name, is it? Is he another bloody pig faced Moslem?

    • 492
      Benny says:

      Doesn’t he have a lovely New Labour Jewish girl friend like the other one ?

  27. 47
    Moley says:

    In The Times it’s worth reading David Aaronovitch on five ways to make Labour electable.

    His recipe appears to be that Labour should ditch Brown and implement “The Plan” by Doug Carswell and Dan Hannan.

    Labour does have form on pinching Conservative clothes to dress their naked emeperor. The correct appraoch is for the Conservatives to welcome any such move which will have the Left wing of Labour spitting blood.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/david_aaronovitch/article6458362.ece

    • 233
      bandersnatch says:

      Have you actually read ‘The Plan’… I have. I bought it off Amazon. VERY patchy… some good ideas, but the education stuff is bollox. Mostly it is pinched from the old, very old, vouchers idea… Remember The Black Paper, you oldies? Also deciding which child has ’special needs’ is highly problematic.

      I love Carswell and Hannan’s frequent references to ‘the poor’… Them as Jesus said we should always have with us. They want to make the old, and seemingly easy to them, Victorian distinction between the deserving and the undeserving poor… refs ‘a deserving widow’ and ‘a layabout’… All ‘welfare’ to be local, with much in put from charities… They didn’t say ‘pauperisation’ and ‘bring back the neighbourhood workhouse’… but its there behind the words. How many saintly and effective Camilla Batmangelighs are there relative to self-regarding lady bountifuls with soup kitchens?

      All middle class communities would have to be gated or walled in their Albion.

      Sorry Dave, they count, I know… The other 50% was interesting.

      • 609
        Susie says:

        Perhaps if it were the difference between getting benefits or not there’d be a lot more of the truly deserving poor around? We seem to have bred a fairly robust criminal class with the present system.

    • 340
      National Socialist Plan Coming To A TV Near You Soon says:

      The much vaunted “National Plan” is now apparently due out next week, after several previous attempts to publish it were thwarted by “the wrong type of headline”.

      • 495
        Benny says:

        The New Labour “Plan” will be treated in the same way as someone treated the tractor statistics Zanu Labour produce

        “Tractor production has increased in the Urals” !!

    • 450
      Susie says:

      Labour can’t implement ‘The Plan’ and not de-ratify the Lisbon Treaty.

      Love how these lefties who’ve never thought up anything innovative since Marx think they can ape conservative radicalism and think we won’t notice.

      FYI Aaronovitch we want the guys who authored ‘The Plan’ (Carswell & Hannon) in government — we want the real thing not some ex-postman’s cheap imitation.

      • 498
        Benny says:

        Dony’ worry Susie

        They cannot “implement” anything

        Not even a Coup to get rid of the Great Leader !

        How on earth do you expect them to implement a Plan ?

        Even if you gave it to the Postie he would put it in the wrong letter box…

  28. 48

    Postman Pat has a very rare talent – knowing his own limits, and he’s just be promoted beyond them.

    It’ll be the usual stake through the heart required for the socialist beast at election time.

    I wonder what sort of wood makes a good stake ?

  29. 51
    Anonymous says:

    I look forward to the new “policies”.

    Anyone taking bets that they’ll need to borrow more money to put them into practice?

    It’s like a wounded hyena this government. Limping along until it finally collapses at the GE.

    It’s all very well Herr Fuhrer saying he will change – what about all of his cronies? I don’t see Balls, Brown or Mandy changing their tactics.

    I’m sorry, but at 900 years old (or whatever the Gorgon is), you simply cannot change something you have done for 30 years overnight. It won’t happen.

    As Brown’s power is now weakened, expect some ridiculous policy nonsense over the next few months as the lefties have a real go.

    Sad.

    • 257
      Doctor Mick says:

      Here’s hoping that just as the new Cabinet gets its cozy little feet under the table and its back the serious business of pockets lining then the Daily Telegraph will administer its coup de grâce.

      Surely they’ve been holding back the big one?

    • 344
      Yvette Cooper says:

      we have not been able to get our message across that is why the great British public have been ignoring us, they just need to be reminded how disastrous a Nazi sorry (not really) I mean Tory government would be, 250% interest rates, pensioners being shot in the street, hospitals turned into casinos, Gyles Brandreth jumpers I mean who would vote for those Tories ?

    • 497
      Demolition Man says:

      It’s quite possible that Brown will want to stay on as Labour leader even after a crushing electoral defeat to “finish the job I started”

    • 501
      MI5 says:

      The only policy of this Labour Goverment is SMEAR

      Starting with each other, we have just seen an overdose of Smear this weekend…

      And now they will say that Old Etonians have actually been seen eating babies..

      Just wait….

      And they are so delusional they think people believe it !!

  30. 53
    Angry Nutkin says:

    the will be a bit of a mess when Brown finally pops

  31. 54
    Master Baiter says:

    Since the Labour leadership is moot, attention turns to the Conservitudes and their obfuscatory position on a plebiscite on the Lisbon Treaty.
    Will they promise a plebiscite on the Lisbon Treaty?

    Probably not, in which case the frothing lunatics inside and outside the Conservitude Party will sink the good ship Compassionate or is it Progressive or is it, well whatever spin-mobile Conservitudism that is the Cameron attempt to sneak in to Downing Street.

    You may go.

    • 62
      Anonymous says:

      Lol, you brighten my day MB as always.

      Serious question – are you a professional writer?

    • 65
      How can Labour improve its internet footprint? says:

      It’s a bit early for you isn’t it Cabinet Office Dept for Internet Rebuttal?

    • 81
      Moley says:

      I think you made a mistake in the first five words.

    • 82
      £70k for Low Carbon Technology Negotiator says:

      Anyone fancy a £70k job as a Low Carbon Technology Negotiator? Expenses and mileage are on top of basic salary naturellement

      • 231
        Sukyspook says:

        Carbon Trading: Reminds me of this poem:

        Yesterday upon the stair
        I met a man who wasn’t there
        He wasn’t there again today
        I wish, I wish he’d go away

        ….and whilst typing it, it’s obviously about brown too…

        Carbon trading: Taxing you for breathing and a scam, scam, scam, scam SCAM!

        Presumably like “carbon trading” and “man-made global warming” – the massive salary is imaginary too?

        • 521
          Randall Marsh says:

          People we must learn moderation.

          If we fart too much we destroy the Ozone layer but if we keep it in we spontaneously combust releasing CO2 and also destroying the Ozone layer.

        • 806
          Old Shakey says:

          To fart or not to fart…

        • 1346
          Augeas says:

          Some people have made tens of millions out of “Carbon Trading”. Of course no carbon is actually being traded, just electronic transactions that purport to represent notional reductions in carbon. It’s a fantastic scam, aided and abetted by “progressive” governments, one of the few things in the financial markets that is even more cynical than the reviled Credit Default Swaps.

      • 506
        carbon technology, that's bar-b-q's ain't it? says:

        Note that the “Interviews Start” field is entered as “not specified” whilst the closing date is 12 June.

        The presumable implication is that the winner of the £70k prize has already been earmarked for an envirolobbyist concerned that he/she hasn’t managed to acquire a final salary pension scheme out in the cold cruel world.

    • 140
      John Brown says:

      Why isn’t the Labour party holding a referendum as they promised in their election manifesto?

    • 149
      Papa Lazarou says:

      dave? is dat yoo dave? will you be my wife dave? ave yoo finished yer tea brake, dave? ave yoo done any work dis morning dave? in yer life dave? do yer ave badges on yer lapels dave? are yoo a paid up member of de labour party dave?

      dave????

      • 178
        Master Baiter says:

        Dave is in the Conservitude Party and wears rich tea biscuits on the crown of his head.

        • 190
          Papa Lazarou says:

          fookin ilarioos dave. will yoo be my wife now?

        • 193
          resurgemus says:

          MB

          where you at that North Korean rally in West ham on Sunday ?

          Having seen the youth organiser Kirsty McGusset I understand why Gordobama doesn’t want Labour woman round him – cost him a fortune in dogmeat

        • 199
          Doctor Mick says:

          No resurge, our MB ain’t no Weekend Bolshevik. He’s strictly 9 to 5 with full one hour lunch breaks.

        • 205
          resurgemus says:

          Doctor Mick

          that may be a little harsh

          9-5 are standard hours for a creche, perhaps his mum picks him up at five in time for the teletubbies

        • 294
          Doctor Mick says:

          I didn’t mean to be a little harsh. Dammit, must try harder!

        • 688
          albacore says:

          He?
          Read M B’s post 307.
          Has to be a girlie.

        • 962
          Anonymous says:

          in a pink frock

  32. 57
    Voter says:

    You cannot crow about all the great things you have done, when at the same time you have fucked up in another part and left a huge bill for a later generation to pay off. We can all do that. And all this fuss about how clever he was with G20. Get fucking real! So he can organise a meeting, big fucking deal.

    • 101
      crackers says:

      Fucked pensionsers leaving millions to stack Tesco shelves instead of lying in the sun drinking vino.
      Fucked our children with third rate schools.
      Fucked our parents who are dying in their 1000’s from MRSA contracted in our NHS
      Fucked our grandchildren with debt they will be paying off.

      And this meglomaniac wants to continue ‘getting on with the job’.

    • 125
      shellingout says:

      I don’t think he could organise a kid’s tea party. G20 was a whitewash. Merkel didn’t agree with him and neither did Sarkozy, but the goood old Beeb spun it all up – with the help of Lord Voldermort.

      • 475
        Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

        Omaha got to show off his new chopper and his entourage of suv’s and limousines I suppose. Well impressed I was. Have you noticed that Brown has had flashing lights put on his Jag now. He still has the back up Range Rover and the Chevrolet badge on the back don’t fool me.

  33. 59
    VotR says:

    Kennedy has quit I see. I wonder if Johnson will have a party left to inherit at this rate. If he doesn’t act soon, Johnson will have lost his only opp to recover Labour’s chances, while the iron is hot.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/5478320/European-elections-2009-Jane-Kennedy-quits-after-call-for-loyalty-pledge.html

    • 72
      Anonymous says:

      Err. Do you suffer from narcolepsy?

    • 120

      VotR – You’ll also probably have noticed that England recently beat West Germany 4-2.

    • 204
      Doctor Mick says:

      That’s ancient history FFS. As a KGB Agent “Gannex” once said, “A week is a long time in politics.”

      • 259
        VotR says:

        It seems there will be a year left to the general election. An eternity to go then, and in that eternity our far left government is fuelling the far right parties in the Eurozone to seize power. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, basic scientific law.

        The centre must be restored, the exremes are gearing up for conflict and it’s the poor sod in the middle who will pay for it all. Harman must go as a sacrificial lamb to restore balance to the cabinet and elimination of another far left element although there will be traces still there. The UK must be geared to leave the EU to escape the poilitical far right monster that the EU is rapidly becoming, and strengthen its defences. New trade partners must be found, or old treaties renewed but that will be the price paid for resistance. The warning signs are all there, and as it has been noted, I’m not the sharpest tool in the set, but even I can see the things like this clearly enough, and that history is repeating… :-(

      • 270
        bandersnatch says:

        What will do for them all in the end is what one of Gannex’s predecessors said…’events, dear boy, events’.

      • 1219
        VotR says:

        “I’m not the sharpest tool in the set”

        No matter how smart you think you are, there’s always another brainier buggar met along the way.

  34. 69
    Postal Vote says:

    The Comres poll may not be accurate, but a hung parliament is what Brown will now be playing for.

    From now on, expect Brown to discretely emphasize points of view shared with the lib dems, while Cambell will spin the beeb, guardian and mirror not to burn the lib dems and perhaps talk them up here and there.

    The hung parliament is not out of Brown’s reach. Last general elections labour got 36% of the vote. These days 28% of households get more than half their income from the government and that percentage is rising, with more than one voter in many of these households. That and favourable constituency boundaries and postal voting might just do the trick for Brown. Don’t expect a change of leadership prior to the elections, no matter how dire the opinion polls may get for labour.

  35. 70
    Thomas Watson says:

    Kennedy quit over Chappaquiddick. It was nothing to do with Gordon Brown’s leadership or Labour Party policy.

    • 80
      BrianSJ says:

      It all began in America

      • 86
        Window Dresser says:

        Do they have window dressing in America?

        • 103
          Postal Vote says:

          Yep, thousand islands, italian and whisky, all repackaged in a CSO (collateralised salad obligation)

        • 113
          Nigel Kennedy says:

          Four Seasons anyone?

        • 134
          Anonymous says:

          They have Paul Newmans dresssing.

        • 136
          Postal Vote says:

          Oh Nige, play Vivaldi for me now! Otherwise I need a session with Kirkbride or Edwina here’s-my-wicket

          (any Australians cruising this site by the way, re cricket?)

        • 188
          Charles Kennedy says:

          I was not driving the car at that time. *hic*

        • 221
          Bird Spotter says:

          Nope, they have Grossperson’s Thousand Island Dressing.

        • 462
          Grumpy Old Man says:

          Na, Mate. every Aussie in the world will now be a “rules” footy fan only.

        • 526
          Australian says:

          Too right, Grumpy Old Man. Trouble is, my team’s crap at Aussie Rules as well!

          Cricket, what cricket??? I heard there was some stupid bloody game called “Twenty20″ or something – definitely nothing to do with cricket ;-)

  36. 74
    Catosays says:

    Henceforth, I shall refer to Brown as SFB (Shit for Brains). I’ve had enough of everything in this country revolving around this odious lump of dog-meat.

    SFB from now on.

  37. 83
    Anonymous says:

    The poll doesn’t sound unreasonable.

    Never going to happen though. Gorgon will only go after May when Liebore tank or if he dies. Either way he’ll only leave #10 feet first but with the former they’ll need to prise his fingernails from the woodwork while he still tries to “get on with the job”.

    • 129
      shellingout says:

      He hassn’t got any fingernails. How about toenails?

    • 139
      Infanta of Castile says:

      Do you think a deal could have been done in which he’ll announce in the New Year that everything is now going swimmingly – green shoots blah blah- so he will stand down to allow a new leader to consolidate his achievements in saving the world? He can then say – look I’m pushing 60 and I have sons who need to see their father more often – after all, my father has been my guiding light in my pilgrimage through life, I want to carry that influence on with my sons yah de yah. Having lost a daughter, I know that children are the most precious thing we have, wee Fraser is not so well and needs full time parents (fair point).

      Result – apparently going at time of his own choosing (although completely stitched up by Prince of Darkness). Heartstrings, family values +++. Gordon avoids the humiliation of crushing defeat either in Lapour party leadership election or general election. Straight to the Lords, passes Go, collects £…

      • 183
        Moley says:

        The problem with this scenario is that there is a door through which leadership candidates have to walk and the whole of the P.L.P. will be politely standing back and saying “after you” to each other.

        • 341
          Infanta of Castile says:

          Maybe – although,as any new leader will only be announced just before the GE campaign has to start, they will subsequently be able to distance themselves from the causes of any defeat and start the rebuilding programme. That is, unless they lose their own seat – but then, step forward a member of the House of Lords to do the necessary (on an interim basis of course). And if the successor does lose his/her seat, they’ll at least have been PM for a couple of weeks and collect the pension, peerage et al.

          And Brown won’t give a flying fuck – he’ll be able to persuade himself that he chose to go for the sake of his children and that whoever the successor is has bogged everything up.

  38. 92
    crackers says:

    Johnson is candy floss. Nice teeth, nice smile and fuck all else between his ears.

  39. 94
    Postal Vote says:

    Dare I say it?!?!? Maguire’s comment today makes sense!

    Conservatives do still face quite a battle. Think of an alternative reason to open champagne bottles in next year’s spring. When a hung parliament seems likely I will short sell more gilts.

    • 376
      Agent of Chaos says:

      You are an optimist. If we face the Latvian Option by next spring, there will be nobody out there interested in buying our debt – since they don’t even give you a ‘certificate suitable for framing’ these days, you couldn’t even use is for firelighters.

  40. 98
    Prescott Quits Shocker says:

    John Prescott has sensationally quit the Government this morning blaming Gordon Brown for creating a “non sexist” culture at the heart of Government.

    He has also accused the Prime Minister of treating him as “cross dressing”.

    Gordon Brown has denied the accusations naturellement.

  41. 100
    fatter than prescott says:

    ministerial sleaze watchdog Sir Philip Mawer—clears Mr Malik

    telegraph made to look idiots

  42. 102
    Max says:

    UK Polling Report nail this poll best as usual here.

    Still, no time to rest on laurels and Dave needs to be spot on at PMQ this week. If it’s a repeat of McDoom ignoring all questions and hectoring about “talking policy” with his idiots cheering him on then I’m off for lunch instead.

    Question him on “policy” Dave; he’s clueless about everything anyway. Get the “do nothing” phrase in first so he looks a prat when he repeats it.

    Accidentally lunge forwards and watch him soil his pants. Come on you know you want to.

    • 121
      D.Day says:

      ask him about Obama beach

    • 152
      Dr Nuts says:

      The best question that Dave can give is: Which of our policies are you interested in so you can implement it and pretend that you’ve got a policy of your own? (With the by-line), You call the Conservatives the Do-Nothing Party – but we’ve got a political agenda of policies – not just a set of lies on the manifesto!

      • 235
        Moley says:

        Given the unthinking tribalism of Labour voters, Dave would be well advised to smile sweetly and offer to co-operate with the Labour Government in implementing Tory policies.

        As Brown has demonstrated, you don’t have to have been elected to be in Government.

        • 354
          Infanta of Castile says:

          He could refer to Fraser Nelson’s points about the Government’s own projected cuts in 2010/11

    • 175
      Lizzie says:

      Gordon should face the backbenchers for QT, just a precaution.

  43. 104
    Anonymous says:

    Surely the problem with BNP polling is a lot of BNP voters won’t openly admit to voting BNP but will do so in the privacy of the ballot box.

  44. 106
    Bureau of Public Secrets says:

    Taking a look on the House of Commons website, I have estimated that regardless of what happens to Brown, has a maximum 100 days of Parliamentary time left to implement his big plan – no fucking chance!

    • 124
      lolol says:

      He was useless in the first hundred days and has been useless since,so the last 100 days will be the same,it’s how much damage he can do in those last 100 days

      • 255
        The big D says:

        Lots.

        Even with no new policies what he has set in motion so far will wreck this country for years to come.

        There is no chance that Labour will reverse any of their actions that have brought us this far.

        The most desperate need is to cut government expenditure now. It will not happen.

        After yesterday’s meeting, Gordon believes he has a level of infallibility on a par with the pope.

        If you thought that Thatcher had the “not for turning” trait, Gordon has it in spades.

    • 712
      BunkerAdvisor says:

      it’s not a very BIG plan but it is good!

    • 1435
      Mr Ned says:

      Its not just time he has run out of, but money to pay for any new plan. He has about -(1,250,000,000) pounds sterling to pay for what he has already put in motion. The cupboard is completely bare. The bank account empty and the creditors are circling…

      He cannot (with any credibility) launch ANY new plan that would satisfy the left (who currently have his balls in a jar).

      He is up the creek without a paddle. No money, No plausable plan, No possibility of escaping the electorate.

      Labour are dead and it is the insane egomaniac Brown whom killed it!

      Thinking about it…. Brown has done us all a MASSIVE public service by killing the Labour party. Shame he has had to lead the country into bankruptcy again to do it!

  45. 108

    Fucking parasite organisation. Making money off the back of a paralysed country. Just another politico whore bitch company.

    Fuck off!

  46. 109
    Ratsniffer says:

    Andrew Pearce, daily telegraph says they haven’t got through all the data on the CD yet, so there could be “lots more to come”

    • 126
      Diarrhoea Straits says:

      I do hope the disc contains these:

      * Money for nothin’ get your chicks for free

      • 574
        Borstal Boy says:

        I cannot believe the number of shifty looking Labour hoons coming on TV today saying they have to “reconnect with our natural voters”.

        Prisoners aren’t allowed to vote in the UK. What the fuck are they on about?

      • 738
        Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

        ‘There’s got to be something somewhere with your fingerprints on’ – On Every Street. Dire Straights.

    • 127
      michel de montaigne says:

      link ?

    • 155
      Tin Cunliffe says:

      And no info at all on what the staffing or paperclip allowances have gone on.

    • 267
      Papasmurf says:

      You mean that they have been sitting on some of the info, just in case some sleaze bag slips through.

      Hope so at any rate.

  47. 114
    bankrupt says:

    Fawkes’ ‘exclusives’ – about as useful as an LDV warranty.

  48. 116
    fatter than prescott says:

    you mean telegraph 2

    the sequel

  49. 128
    Allan Darling says:

    ComRes Poll = What you get when you ring round all your smug mates in Islington

    • 244
      Dr Phyllis Starkey MP says:

      Why don’t you dissappear down a drainpipe and give me your job.

  50. 130

    Gordon Brown is a man among men. Some things he does well and some things he does not so well. One of the things he does well is to transform a Great Parliamentary Party into moist-eyed rapture from the doldrums of near-hysterical despair. All now run after him. All run after his triumphal chariot.

    It is all about morale. In the Australian bush they have long known how to destroy a man’s morale by pointing the bone.

    This is why the PLP have learned to fear Peter Mandelson. In the Committee Corridor, a peccant backbencer sees a glint in the shadows but it is too late. Mandelson reaches for his flies and prepares to point the bone.

    • 144
      shellingout says:

      The problem with his triumphal chariot, is that the wheels are about to fall off. It’ll all end in tears.

      • 170
        Lizzie says:

        Would make a great picture I think Gordon on a chariot in his Roman kit, trouble is finding a chariot to fit his ego.

        • 305
          bandersnatch says:

          Amazing lack of self-knowledge has Gordy… Such pompous piousness… about his how Presbyterian upbringing has given him a superior kind of conscience to those of his colleagues… He is so moral he has a duty to carry on rather stand aside… Others are not as he is…

          This from an arch schemer and smearer: the employer of McPoison.

          The skateboarding bulldog now on my neat little screen-corner tele has more honourableness and more insight.

        • 1449
          Anonymous says:

          Ben Hur, Him, it – whatever!

    • 150
      Tin Cunliffe says:

      it IS him this time isn tit? If it isn’t … nice touch introducing the australian ramble.

      ARG you git. Leave it till the end to go for a joke too far.

      • 207
        Dr Feelgood says:

        No, I don’t think it’s him.

        The thought of Mandy ‘pointing his bone’ is pretty scary though.

    • 158
      Papa Lazarou says:

      Mandy to Purnell:

      yoo’ve been a naughty boy dave. yoo ave a disease and I ave de cure, dave.

    • 160
      Andy Carpark says:

      Chazzo is actually talking a modicum of sense for a change.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdaitcha

    • 236
      Nearly Headless Nick. says:

      Mandleson’s bone – it doesn’t bear thinking about. Shudder, vomit, scream!
      BTW Is he a circumcised person?
      Answers from Brazil, please.

    • 359
      Infanta of Castile says:

      Humans don’t have an os penis. Are you suggesting the Dark lord is a mutant.

    • 382
      JMT says:

      In the Committee Corridor, a peccant backbencer sees a glint in the shadows but it is too late. Mandelson reaches for his flies and produces his pointy bone.

      You’re f**ked!

    • 1437
      Mr Ned says:

      How will the labour faithful react to the PLP irrevocably tying themselves to the man who lead the labour party to a grand total of 4.6% support from those eligible to vote….and then giving Brown a hero’s welcome for the feat of turning the labour party into a tiny fringe party?

      Brown and his MPs seem to be revelling in the utter destruction of the labour party…

      I still cannot get my head around a party who applauds the man who killed their electoral chances stone dead! They either hate their supporters, Or they are clinically insane. or BOTH!

  51. 161
    Lizzie says:

    ComRes would appear to be “up the poll” then!

  52. 162
    Lizzie says:

    I see a promotion for Malik, the more arrogant you are the further up the Labour Ladder you will go.

  53. 163
    • 194
      Moley says:

      In order to regain the far left vote, Milibrain is trying to pretend that nationalising banks was the end result of a deliberate labour policy initiative to bring about Clause IV.

      Maybe it was.

      If Brown is as clever as he thinks he is, it is impossible to believe that the financial crisis in this country was the result of his incompetence. He is the Labour Leader who has achieved the impossible and nationalised the Banks.

      He joins Karl Marx in the Hall of Heroes.

      • 973
        Griff Nutt says:

        I heard that interview too. Interesting comparison to be made with Humphrys’s attack on Osborne yesterday, I believe it was. Humphrys was actually arguing with Osborne, shouting and interrupting, while Naughtie pretty much just let Miliband spew out his Zanu shite, baulking only at the most preposterous bits of the whole preposterous tirade.

        What a bunch of front bottoms they are at the BBC. Dave has made loosely veiled threats about their funding, but the very best thing is for the individual not to pay. It’s easy to get away with it, and more and more people are sticking up 2 fingers at TV Licensing (part of Crapita – another bunch of quims if ever there was one). Save yourself £140 a year and join the herd. Go to the forum at http://www.tvlicensing.biz and browse the ingenious techniques for winding up/fucking over TVL.

    • 237
      Read & Weep says:

      yes heard every word this morning also:

      Election result only a comment on expenses.
      Duty to stay in power to sort out mess
      One week in power worth more than a year in opposition
      Brown will be more open/listening/involving ha ha

      It looks like the calculation is that complete embarrassment over the next 10 months followed by electoral meltdown in 2010 is preferable to hard coding the Blair/Brown camp mutual slugfest into Labour DNA.

      I take this view assuming they could actual find where to plunge the dagger should they wish – scant evidence of that this week – such an appalling lack of planning and bottle – Flint so self serving and damaging – they are such a second rate bunch that only speak out when their troughing rights look threatened – and then fail.

  54. 166
    Matt says:

    67,000 signatures on the resign peition at No. 10 … but crucially no Mandy yet

    • 285
      Jester says:

      Surprised it’s only 67 000

      • 385
        RobC says:

        It isn’t it’s probably triple that – the labour organ grinder hand counting the votes probably had the same maths teacher as gormless.

  55. 168
    Lizzie says:

    Watching Tessa Jowell’s interview on Sky last night, I thought she had just been to Church and heard the sermon on the mount such was her praise of Gordon.

    • 222
      Dr Phyllis Starkey MP says:

      Has she done any jail visits lately?.

    • 228
      Berlusconi says:

      She loves Mills & Broon!!

    • 230
      13eastie says:

      What’s so special about the cheese-makers?

      • 247
        shellingout says:

        Tessa Jowell. The woman who didn’t realise she was signing mortgage documents given to her by her husband. She then went on to the Olympics. Look at what happened there. The budget is way beyond what she told us it would be, and it looks like it will be even higher when it’s finished.

        There’s no such thing as a failed politician. What a wonderful feeling it must be to know that however much you balls your job up, you will still be employed.

        • 323
          HandsomeDavid says:

          Yes – original forecast for olympics was £1.78 billion.

          But OOOOPPPSSS we forgot to add VAT.

        • 1172
          Harriet Harman says:

          She is only a girly wirly and big sumsy wumsy are not her forte!

  56. 172
    Ever Vigilant says:

    Gordon Brown hiding behind golbal reasons for his failure to generate sound economic policy is the same as Peter Sutcliffe claiming that he should not be held responsible for murdering 13 women.

    • 321
      Churchill's Cattleprod says:

      Gordon is just the caretaker so he can’t be held to blame. Rather like Alan Shearer or Ian Huntley …

  57. 173
    Scorched Earth says:

    Come the autumn it’s game time for the plotters.

    • 179
      Lizzie says:

      Where are they holding the Labour party conference this year?

      • 206
        Doctor Mick says:

        Invitations have been sent out but they’ve been lost in the post.

      • 208
        Scorched Earth says:

        Brighton. Late September/October and it will probably be just after ex Speaker Martins by-election in what used to be a rock solid safe seat in Glasgow North East. Rock solid before. But now ?

        So the likely scenario is at the same time Labour delegates will be showering fulsome valedictory praise on Brown they will all be the feverishly plotting in the Hotels and counting backers.

        Assuming he hasn’t already been challenged before then.

        • 290
          Lizzie says:

          They are going to need extra beach huts, they should have held it in Bogner.

        • 378
          Inkster says:

          Glasgow windowlickers will always vote NuLab. It’s tattooed on their wrist at birth so they don’t forget.

      • 224
        Ed Balls says:

        Committee Room 15, HoC…desk bangers only welcome!!!

      • 280
        michel de montaigne says:

        A bedroom closet

      • 293
        SideShow Bob says:

        In a minibus

      • 570
        Mary Hinge says:

        Next year’s will be held in a phone box.

    • 185
      DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

      Plotters? Lost-the-plotters would be a better description.

  58. 182
    Papa Lazarou says:

    allo dave. ave yoo fixed the block in de toilet dave? it won’t fix itself yoo know.

  59. 187
    Ambivolent says:

    Labour are finished, they have huffed, puffed and failed to blow the house down. It’s time for D.C to up the tempo and finally get rid of these contemptable fuckwits.

  60. 189
    Anonymous says:

    How can one man i.e.Mandelson have so much power as to be able to keep Gordon Brown in office. Millions have given their verdict that Brown is unfit but there he remains surrounded by useless sycophants. Is this the democracy which is flaunted as being so enlightened and good. Ordinary,decent people are unable to get their voices heard. Voting, in this country, is not worth the effort.

    • 198
      DR & Quinch says:

      See 125.

    • 307
      English Liberation Front says:

      If this was the USA (or any other country) I suspect both Mandelslimebucket and Brownstainovitch would have had the ringing endorsement of a full metal jacket by now.

    • 343
      Churchill's Cattleprod says:

      Simple. Mandelson is the eminence gris but he knows that he is totally unloved by his party and by the electorate so it suits him to have Brown as the fall guy. Nothing Mandelson does it by chance, every move has been calculated and evaluated before he has made it. Unfortunately his massive ego frequently gets in the way of his ambition, to whit the Notting Hill house scandal and the time when he tried to pass off a Maserati Quattroporte as his official car through on expenses at the EU.

      In all likelihood Mandelson has probably already committed another flagrant breach of parliamentary rules – we just have to wait for it to come out.

  61. 197
    Chinola says:

    Lets hope the Telegraph has some real dirt on Mandelson, something so dodgy that even he cant sliver away. Once he’s hit the pack of cards will fall. Haven’t you got anything Guido?

    • 252
      shellingout says:

      What about Deripaska’s yacht? What was Lord M doing on there in the first place? Surely someone must know?

      • 274
        It's all Balls says:

        EU Aluminium tariffs maybe?

        • 347
          Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

          Maybe? Certainly played a part.
          Don’t forget that Deripaska owns the local aluminium smelter which he bought for strategic reasons, not commercial ones. Aluminium smelting only makes sense with cheap electricity, which that plant can’t get. You can watch the telly or produce aluminium, not both. It’s a front it to give the Russians influence in the Mediterranean.

          Gnat R is partnering him in a playboy venture park for billionaires.

          Loads of money sloshing about, and EU and WTO involvement,so Mandy was going to be useful. It’s all on the web.

        • 369
          George Osborne says:

          ‘Ere stop messin about!

          Corfu, who did that?

        • 422
          Agent of Chaos says:

          Link, please.

    • 277
      Dogsbollocks says:

      Follow the money !! oops expenses !

      Is Mandy going for PM ? (Voordemort just chases little boys)

      • 650
        Read & Weep says:

        Mandy gives up Peerage & stands for Parliament in 2010 ( safe seat given in thanks for sucking up to GB) Brown implodes 2010 – Mandy bids for leader of PLP – compromise candidate having earned his smarts by supporting Brown, everyone else seen as belong to one faction or the other ( fiendish !)

        Once leader of the opposition he sets about Cameroon – havn’t worked out how the Russians / yachts etc.. fit , but fit they must …..

    • 279
      Biffo the Bear says:

      Slither!

  62. 210

    Scorched earth from now on folks.

    Be afraid. Be very afraid.

    • 303
      lolol says:

      Frank they want you to be afraid,it’s easier for them,f*ck them,they are just a spinless load of sh*tes led by a lunatic and a tw*t who thinks he’s the kingmaker,we know what happened to luntatics and kinmakers in the past,bedlam and hung drawn and quartered,we may have a modern equivilant of both,but I prefer the old ways :-)

    • 381
      Fucked says:

      The country is fucked
      The economy is fucked
      Labour is fucked
      We are all fucked.

      They can scorch the earth even further you mean?

  63. 212
    Doctor Mick says:

    Aye, just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water.

  64. 215
    Geordie McScoot (I'm turning Scottish for tax reasons - section me) says:

    Anyway, the talk of the North East at the moment is the board of NUFC have yesterday announced that the club is up for sale for £100M o.n.o. Interested parties should apply by email to admin@nufc.co.uk – I shall petition Ben Bradshaw to make the case for nationalisation to avoid queues of disillusioned Geordies trying to get refunds on their season tickets and thereby causing a run on the club. With the right level of competent management from this government this should see triumphal returns for both the Toon and Labour next May. Got to go now as the ambulance has arrived to take me away.

    • 248
      Nearly Headless Nick. says:

      WTF is NUFC?

      • 287
        Pass the Port says:

        Newcastle United Football Club.
        Apparently they play a sport that uses a round ball and is favoured by the state education system.
        Go figure.

    • 335
      Doctor Mick says:

      The full first team squad is also up for sale. Just seen it on eBay.

      Noocassel used to be one of the greatest football clubs in the land. Aye, me grandad told me about it. But now they have been relegated

      • 730
        AnonymousTyne & Wear Bloke says:

        they were never that good ever

        • 1359
          Augeas says:

          That was one of Tony B Liar’s famous porkies, wasn’t it, when he pretended to remember going to watch wor Jackie Milburn who, it turned out, retired before he was born. Typical public school boy trying to make out he was a football fan.

  65. 216
    Eileen Critchley says:

    So let’s have a look and see what’s swilling around in our mucky little bucket!

    Gordon
    White working class ignorance
    White middle class envy
    Political cowardice
    Political ambition
    By-elections
    Summer holidays
    Conferences
    Unforeseen circumstances – floods, bombs and rockets etc

    An hour is a long time in British politics at the moment!

  66. 218
    Dr Phyllis Starkey MP says:

    I am available for a Cabinet post.

  67. 223
    Gutless Spineless Labour says:

    Guido – aren’t you going to comment on the shameless Shahid Malik and the whitewash which is seeing this pimp back in Government?

    • 239
      Tin Cunliffe says:

      Its a crap story.

      He’s done is gross troughing, which puts him in the same category as 80% of MPs.

      His first home doesn’t look much like a second home, but theres plenty worse.

      • 251
        13eastie says:

        Just because the toe-rag has no class, it doesn’t mean he’s not a thief.

        • 269
          shellingout says:

          I think theiving is a pre-requisite for wanting to be a cabinet minister.

    • 258
      shellingout says:

      Well they’re running short of candidates in Government now. That’s why they had to ship Kinnochio back from Europe and give her a peerage. The whole thing bloody stinks to high heaven.

  68. 241
    fatter than prescott says:

    labour gov run by PEERS

  69. 249
    The scab on the face of British Politics says:



    Ye ken tha’ ah’m sti’ her’

    Tha’s cos’ nuth’n ma’ fult ye und’stn

    [Translation :

    In spite of every effort to move me, I'm still here.

    That's because perceptive people recognise my innate skill and charm.

    It has nothing to do with the fact that they are cowered and cowardly.

    And nothing is my fault of course.]

    • 360
      Mick fra' Glasgow says:

      Och, pish on ye ye wee scunner. Ah still wan’ ma peerage so git a mo’ on or ye’ll be feeling a Gorbals kiss o’ yer wee for’ed.

  70. 250
    Nearly Headless Nick. says:

    Rossum’s Universal Robots (R.U.R.) is the new acronym for this Parliament

  71. 253
    The boil on the arse of British Politics says:



    Pus filled little sac that I am, I control everything now.

    Especially my glove-puppet.

  72. 254
    Viggers to sell Duck House says:

    Sir Peter Viggers, the MP who stood down after it was disclosed he claimed £1,645 on expenses for a floating duck house, is to sell it to raise money for charity.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5484582/MPs-expenses-Sir-Peter-Viggers-to-sell-duck-house-for-charity.html

  73. 260
    Moriarty says:

    fear not for Gordon has vowed to change. Incidentally, I hear that Gazza is back on the wagon.

    • 364
      Crusty Old Buffer says:

      And turkeys are voting for Christmas.

      • 913
        Moriarty says:

        Not any more. Head Turkey has called it off on the grounds that the turkey electorate are looking for unity and don’t wish to be distracted by the “chaos of an early election”.

  74. 264
    michel de montaigne says:

    The Great Giveaway has started, Get your orders in.

    First Off the Government (ie u and me ) are going to give £6m to Christies Hospital that they lost in the Icelandic Bank collapse. All well and good but penthouses overlooking the Thames for retired Ghurkas?

  75. 265
    A firm pair of breasts says:

    What would a hung parliament mean as I guess the main parties wouldn’t want to work with any of the others.

  76. 266
    aswinsterstale says:

    I agree with Benedict Brogan, as far as brown is concerned its so bad it’s good, and no other stupid fucker wants to be responsible for leading the government to a certain electoral disaster.
    I see Ashley dipped into her usual bucket of shit and came up with another gem. Brown resigns, and the public learn to love him Where on gods fucking planet was she educated

  77. 268
    Anonymous says:

    This is all chicken shit compared to what Labour will be doing to save their skins.

    Make no mistake, you ain’t seen nothing yet!

    No other jobs allowed if an MP, to allow more scroungers in Parliament who have never had a wealth creating job in their lives.

    Other constitutional reforms for their benefit. They will push then through and say these are the reforms the puiblic asked for.

    Expect council housing to make a comeback

    More quantative easing to flood the economy with cash.

    They didn’t all fall into line for nothing. You thought it got dirty? Just you wait and see. Read it here first. The Tories are gonna get it you’ll see.

    • 275
      shellingout says:

      Get what? Government have already given the Conservatives control of many councils. They haven’t got anything left, have they.

  78. 273
    Anonymous says:

    i think ComRes is a pretty cool guy. eh gets predictions wrong and doesnt afraid of anything.

  79. 275
    Rt Hon G Brown PM says:

    I am still here. You lot can whinge all you like but I AM STILL HERE.

    You wait and see, i will lead my brothers to a triumphant victory June 2010.

    You will not be able to stop me…. I am the ruler of the Universe.

    See you all there

    • 278
      shellingout says:

      Nurse – prozac and counselling, please.

    • 356
      Tony Bliar says:

      I’m a pretty straight kinda guy

      • 357
        Rt Hon G Brown PM says:

        I’m not

      • 565
        Jel says:

        Does that mean you’re really gay as you lied about everything else? Does Cherie know?

        • 639
          Anonymous says:

          i think cherie bliar is a pretty cool guy. eh has a mouth the size of the mersey tunnel and doesnt afraid of anything.

      • 632
        Anonymous says:

        i think tony bliar is a pretty cool guy. eh is a pretty straight kinda guy and doesnt afraid of anything.

    • 433
      Anonymous says:

      Pink Floyd A new machine #1 Lyrics (or, Gordon Brown’s thought-processes at the moment) -

      I have always been here
      I have always looked out from behind these eyes
      It feels like more than a lifetime
      Feels like more than a lifetime

      Sometimes I get tired of the waiting
      Sometimes I get tired of being in here
      Is this the way it has always been?
      Could it have ever have been different?

      Do you ever get tired of the waiting?
      Do you ever get tired of being in there?
      Don’t worry, nobody lives forever
      Nobody lives for ever

      • 510
        Anonymous says:

        And the voters’ thought processes are (from Sorrow) -
        The sweet smell of a great sorrow lies over the land
        Plumes of smoke rise and merge into the leaden sky:
        A man lies and dreams of green fields and rivers,
        But awakes to a morning with no reason for waking
        He’s haunted by the memory of a lost paradise
        In his youth or a dream, he can’t be precise
        He’s chained forever to a world that’s departed
        It’s not enough, it’s not enough

        • 550
          Illusion says:

          If you like a bit more Gordon Brown and Pink Floyd try this

          Boom and Bust – If – Pink Floyd / Roger Waters

      • 1010
        Anonymous says:

        i think pink floyd is a pretty cool guy. eh is just another brick in the wall and doesnt afraid of anything.

    • 569
      Jel says:

      weren’t you and Obuma going to save the World?

  80. 284
    James. says:

    Even pigs (with their snouts well and truly in the trough) will not vote to be the Xmas Ham – they will keep on shaking the (our) ‘money tree’ right on till the bitter end – why? because doing a proper job is beyond their capability and – ’something might turn up’

    …….For them it’s Me ME ME, then the Labour Party and the retention of power then…..then…….. ummm??? …..oh yes the good of the country.

    • 295
      Rt Hon G Brown PM says:

      Not fair….. i claimed only for my cleaner.

      Got to run, busy with the new team

      xx

      • 301
        Lizzie says:

        Hope Gordon has an offcial taster, watch what they put in your tea dear!

        • 310
          Rt Hon G Brown PM says:

          I drink only of the blood of the disloyals….tea’s a girl’s drink.

  81. 292
    Biffo the Bear says:

    If Caroline Flint wants women in politics to be “more than window dressing”, then why did she get all dolled up for a “glamour” photo shoot. Pictures of her squirming before a camera lens in a red frock and high heels doesn’t quite give out the “serious female politician” message.

    • 297
      Chinola says:

      because all women politicians have to look and act like dogs?

      • 349
        Captain Haddock says:

        No Chinola, but dressing up and pouting for the camera is a bit like those shots of Putin stripped to the waist and going around like Rambo. Look at Meeeeee!!After that I cannot take them seriously.

        There is a certain hypocrisy involved in ranting on about the “oppression of women” and then dressing up like a tart for the cameras.

    • 302
      Benny Hill says:

      It worked for me – caawwww

    • 304
      Rt Hon G Brown PM says:

      Yesssssss…. at last someone after my own heart.

      A bimbo, McBride told me so, i was just too forgiving.

      Only dragqueens and rampant lesbians from now on.

    • 308
      On message says:

      Wash my pants.

    • 334
      Jackanory says:

      I think Caroline Flint was a brilliant Europe Minister. What other minister would have been capable of defending the Lisbon Treaty with such ferocity – whilst admitting she hadn’t even read the damned thing! Come on chaps, you’ve got to hand it to her – only a woman could do that!

    • 345
  82. 300
    fatter than prescott says:

    ocd

    obsessive compulsive dis-order

    he must have a good lawyer to think than one up

  83. 306
    M.T.BUCKET says:

    o/t Shahid Malic reinstaded it was all within the rules apparently.

    • 337
      righty right wing (mrs) says:

      Good.

      That is another ten thousand Labour voters leaving the party.

      Unbelievable.

    • 393
      Anonymous says:

      Unbelievable, we are on a very bad course here. No one with spine or backbone to challenge the PM, the country is left to drift for the next 12 months, with no further recourse (well may be a couple of by-elections). The recent election results have been ignored, tossed aside as irrelevent, the 24/7 labour party broadcasts, allowed without question, the unelected members of the cabinet go unchallenged, it adds up to a depressing conclusion – we are stuffed!

    • 1398
      MI5 says:

      Sir Philip Mawer did NOT INVESTIGATE THE EXPENSES ISSUE

      He only looked at the question of his “housing arrangements”

      So NOONE HAS CLEARED MAILIK OF THE EXPENSE FRAUD..

      This is all lies from Dowing Street again…

  84. 315
    It's all Balls says:

    O/T

    New Cabinet meets for the first time

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8090557.stm

    Cripes – the Lords will have been even emptier than usual

    • 322
      Rt Hon G Brown PM says:

      Shhhhhhhhhhh i’m busy…..

    • 338
      M.T.BUCKET says:

      Why did the camera pan under the table at the end, were they trying for some upskirt shots or something more sinister.

      • 1048
        No10 Cleaner says:

        Its their new allowances meter,it only clocks up when pressure is sensed from bums on seats,trail run.Will be used in Europe soon.Mandy expects normal teething problems

  85. 319
    Bureau of Public Secrets says:

    Brown and his henchmen are about to bring a new meaning to the phrase “floating voter”

  86. 328
    Captain Haddock says:

    The BBC afternoon play yesterday was a real tearjerker about a stalwart party MP who was prepared to risk what remained of his rapidly failing health to support Jim Callaghan win the vote of no confidence. It was a portrayal of a real struggle to prevent “That Woman” getting in. It was also portrayed as a tragedy for the man and a tragedy for Labour to lose the motion by one vote.

    It was unbelievably pro Labour and timed for the day after the Euro elections in which they knew they were going to get a hammering.

    “The BBC, we know where you live!”

    • 552
      Susie says:

      I ‘listened’ to that as well… but it wasn’t that unusual — the BBC were just a little more blatant yesterday.

      The afternoon play’s usually a sari saga (Asian bride realises her parents were right about her arranged marriage and she should wear the hijab at work) or some flat cap having a crisis about his whippet eating his racing pigeon.

      They never have any relevance to my life so I only ‘listen’ but more usually turn it off.

  87. 332
    Councillor Charles Hardwidge Deceased says:

    Well the time is past 12-00 noon and still no news of James Purnell.

    Have you been set up Guido ????

  88. 336
    righty right wing (mrs) says:

    I have done myself a slight injury.

    I have been laughing so much at the woes of the Labour Party of late that I believe I have fundamentally weakened my mirth bone.

    Nothing will ever be as funny as watching the results from the European Elections come in & seeing the destruction & disintegration of the Labour Party.

    How we laughed.

    These are great days – & I still cannot believe that those spinelss cretins & groupthinkers in Labour have left McMental in situ – looks like the laughs are just going to keep on coming & coming for the next year.

    Happy days.

    Great result for UKIP – well done everyone.

    • 350
      Crusty Old Buffer says:

      Hope you havn’t torn your chuckle muscle, you’re going to need it.

    • 351
      Rt Hon G Brown PM says:

      Don’t you think i did quite well myself?

    • 388
      Lord Gideon Partisan Babblingbigot says:

      UKIP’s vote went up by 0.3% The BNP’s went up by 1.3%

      Of a turnout of 35%.

      Return to your Constituencies and prepare for a nap!

    • 390
      Lord Gideon Partisan Babblingbigot says:

      UKIP’s vote went up by 0.3% The B&P’s went up by 1.3%

      Of a turnout of 35%.

      Return to your Constituencies and prepare for a nap!

    • 409
      Anonymous says:

      Don’t laugh too hard; there’s not going to be a general election ever again so the euro/local vote was irrelevant.

      Unless there’s a physical ejection of labour MPs by a mob, a general election is not going to happen. The June 2010 date is irrelevant; Brown’s not going to allow one. He’ll just cite a “crisis” and suspend the vote indefinitely.

      • 530
        Watt Tyler says:

        That’s what I think will happen. He’s already got the police on side, so a civilian mob will find it hard to eject him. I hope the Army hasn’t been infiltrated by Guardianistas.

        • 1287
          Bob the Squaddie says:

          The guardianistas would infiltrate the Army if they could but we wouldn’t take any notice after all the army is made up overwhelmingly of white working class men who would dismiss them as a bunch of university ponces!!!! And rightly so!

      • 590
        Steve Expat says:

        How bad is it that we are actually thinking this?

        We seriously believe that in a first-world democracy, the government are so corrupted by power that they will invent some sort of crisis to postpone their inevitable demise.

        Remember only 5% (2.3m) of the population decided to vote for Liebour last week, and nearly a million people went for the unmentionables…

        • 735
          Cornelius Nettlewood says:

          First world? I think you’ll find that Britain is now considered second world.

      • 699
        Agent of Chaos says:

        Is this a reference to the Lisbon Treaty making our parliamentary democracy irrelevant?

  89. 355
    Toilet Duck. says:

    In a poll cunducted by me this morning, 9 out of 10 bloggers preferred the smell and deep cleaning action of Harpic Harman.

    One blogger remarked; ” Im really impressed with this new Parliamentary Democracy product.
    It goes on so nicely and removes all traces of Brown stains from around my rim.
    My expenses claims have never been so transparent!”

    Another blogger who did not wish to be named called Mr Guido Fawkes, went further; ” If theres one democratic cleanup product i would heartily recommend to anyone, it would have to be Harpic Harman.
    You can smell the quality when its applied. Bent Mp’s dont stand a chance.
    Ive never seen an expense claim bleached to such transparency by any other product ive tried.
    I can honestly say, there are no Brown marks on my rim or around my bend, Thank You! Harpic Harman!”

    So there you have it, concrete and undeniable proof that the very best product that the taxpayer can buy is Harpic Harman. No other can remove those pesky Brown spatter marks that Democracy is suffering from.

    • 419
      First haiku of the day says:

      Harman is a smeghead
      Harman is a careerist
      Harman is a knobhead
      Harman is a good shag

      I thank you.

  90. 361
    Anonymous says:

    I live in the south; I doubt very much indeed if any change of leader will increase their pathetic 8% vote here. Everyone here just wants to kick out the party that’s destroyed the country/economy; it’s as simple as that.

    • 372
      Rt Hon G Brown PM says:

      Thanks i’ll bear it in mind. Am considering Shahid Malik as new Minister for the South. I think that should fix it.

      xx

      • 400
        Anonymous says:

        Don’t worry Gordon; your party’s guaranteed to drop even further from that 8% vote now that your party’s attitude is “fuck the normal people; let’s go Stalin on their asses and secure our core vote instead.”

        Well done; I don’t think your party could manage to alienate normal people any more than you’re already doing.

        But then again, who cares about normal/non-labour people? After all, it’s not as if you’re ever going to allow a general election to take place is it?

        • 481
          Rt Hon G Brown PM says:

          No election until my place in history is secure. I will go down with the greats, no more Gladstone, Bevan, Churchill or Thatcher. Gordon Brown is the name that you will all remember.

          I have saved you from the financial abyss, created a country where all is equal, and where prosperity for all is for the first time a reality.

          I am the saviour….God bless me.

          GB

        • 514
          The twice shamed, unelected Queen Peter MindYourSon says:

          Look Gordon, as you promised at the PLP, you need to keep in the background from now on (like Myers, Sir Ian Blair, McNulty, Smith et al)

          I’ll take over now.

    • 534
      Simon Fanshort says:

      Hmmm 7% of that 8% will have been in Brighton. That leaves 1% for the rest of the region?

      • 595
        Mary Hinge says:

        Apparently Liebour came SIXTH in Cornwall, behind the Cornish Nationalists!

  91. 366
    .243 Win says:

    Just had to turn off the “Daily Politics” on Pravda.

    - Tessa Jowell
    - Anthony Howard
    - Polly Toynbee
    - Trevor Kavanagh

    Balanced view anyone ?

    If we needed it underlining, Jowell confirmed it once again “it’s about loyalty”.

    Party first, self second, country………….buggered.

    • 423
      BBC (Getting THE message across) says:

      remember 279% interest rates

    • 442
      Be Lonely Typo says:

      Toy Only Plebe

    • 504
      The twice shamed, unelected Queen Peter MindYourSon says:

      Where’s Tessa’s husband this week ?
      “It’s about loyalty”

      • 537
        Mike Giggler says:

        Where’s Jacqui’s husband this week? Surely not spending more time with his wife?

        • 597
          Mary Hinge says:

          He’s trying to get the pages of his “art pamphlet” unstuck.

        • 599
          Dr Nuts says:

          I’m loath to say this – but it Jaqui’s husband took her back door entrance – it might just calm her down a bit!

          I don’t think it will make her likable, but certainly tolerable in small quantities.

      • 685
        Jimmy Vulmer says:

        He is very much busy very much

    • 1165
      Funambulist says:

      Anyone remember the ‘Anthony Howard Horror Mask’ in a PE Christmas issue? One of the funniest things ever in the Eye!

  92. 370
    Rt Hon Ed Balls MP says:

    I am available to serve as Prime Minister.

  93. 377
    English Liberation Front says:

    Changing the subject but on reflection about Israel and the Palestinians I was thinking about what it would be like if the Scottish (mus’nae, neeeir, say “Scotch”, och aye away, neeeir), on the basis of their ancient Pictish legacy, moved into England en masse and took over the government, then let thousands of immigrants in to change the demographics and made the English an oppressed and occupied minority in their own country . . .

    Er, hang on a minute . . .

    • 479
      Anonymous says:

      Hint: Sort out your Education System – then there would be no need to import “skilled labour”

      • 544
        English Liberation Front says:

        Nah, the Jock Virus, the Tartan Army, the McPlague was on the move and infecting the host long before Labour screwed up England’s schools.

        I didn’t always dislike the Scots. But I do now after 12 years of Scottish Labour government. Cut ‘em adrift I say and good riddance. Let them have independence and good riddance. Just charge those that want to stay here a porridge tax of 50p in the £1.

        • 1115
          McArf'n'Arf of Larges says:

          what about all the English north of the border because they can’t stand Brown?

    • 596

      20% of Israelis are Arab.

      A vanishingly small (and massively oppressed just google jizya) number of people are non-muslim in the ethnically cleansed hamas controlled areas.

      • 848
        English Liberation Front says:

        Yeah, I know, I’m just winding up the McPlague and their Labour pals.

  94. 379
    Master Baiter says:

    Barack Obama is the first African American President of the United States.
    Shahid Malik in the same way will become the first UK Prime Minister from a minority ethnic background.
    Get over it fossils.
    Welcome to the future.

    • 389
      Anonymous says:

      It’s all within the rules

    • 392
      English Liberation Front says:

      Barack Obama is mixed race and represents unity, tolerance, compassion and an end to the socialist created artificial distinctions of class and race, contrived to stir up tension and maintain their power (divide and rule).

      Shahid Malik represents division, prejudice and hatred – and Labour – the biggest bunch of fossils of them all.

      The donkey-jacket fossilised, outdated, regressive and repressive politics of socialism have no place in 21st Century Britain. We need tolerance, compassion and freedom, not your spiteful, chip-shouldered, mean-minded politics of envy and control.

    • 395
      Omaha Bitch says:

      I once bought a second hand car from Malik. It blew up!

    • 397
      Doctor Mick says:

      So what was Benjamin Disraeli’s background then? Welsh?

      • 448
        Tattooed_Arry says:

        Disraeli has been air-brushed from History.
        New Labour are now the most Anti-Semitic Party in Britain.

        • 791
          Agent of Chaos says:

          Astonishing, isn’t it? Maybe they’re only interested in promoting ethnic minorities whilst they can plausibly claim to be ‘victims’. Successful minorities; educated and wealthy ones, are probably not a reliable source of votes.

    • 398
      lolol says:

      Only in Labourlands dreams,people will have any decent person but none of this corrupt crowd,if thats racist sue me pc twat

    • 407
      Anonymous says:

      Not while we still have the opportunity to vote unmentionable.
      They would have a runaway victory…..
      Oops – is this why they have to be censored and abused….
      Is this what it is really all about?

    • 410
      resurgemus says:

      MB

      well said I’m all for it, let’s start now, Harriet in a Burqa and one-handed Elliot Morley, I’ll cut the holes in a sheet you get the machete.

    • 427
      Tattooed_Arry says:

      Enjoy Sharia Law.
      No wonder Brown has problems getting women to serve in his cabinet.
      Or will Mandelssohn be exempt from punishment for his Homosexual practices. Labour appear to exempt themselves from any other Law that affects the rest of us, so I don’t suppose that’s much of a problem really.
      The difference between the examples you give is that the US encourages integration, speak English, learn American History, swear allegiance etc…
      Thus Obama is American first.
      Apply the Cricket test, and see how your so-called future PM swings.
      Face it, Labour’s Multicultural Experiment has failed – as it has in any other country you care to name.
      Its only purpose is to import Labour voters, because the English don’t vote Labour.
      When the Scots gain Independence, the game will be up, that’s why we have no border controls.

      • 493
        lolol says:

        Ever been to chop square on a Friday after prayers MT,it would suit you to see what happens.

    • 545
      Cath says:

      Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

      Best laugh I have had all week! Cheers MB!

    • 602
      Mary Hinge says:

      Lloyd George doesn’t count, then?

    • 724
      Malarky says:

      Shahid Malik deserves to come back into the government. He is the future. See why here:

  95. 383
    Moriarty says:

    As someone who has spent most of my career in market research I can professionally point out the obvious: that opinion polls, particularly speculative ones, are extremely crude (but relatively cheap) and need to be taken with a healthy dose of salt (preferably more than 7g a day).

    • 416
      Big brother is inspecting your lunchbox says:

      You are NOT allowed by govt legislation to take more than 1g of salt per day in your diet – kids lunchboxes are now inspected in schools and details are laid out in each OFSTED report for each school on how the kid’s lunchboxes look in terms of ingredients – seriously.

      But hey – you won’t die of a poor diet cos this piece of shit Brown will kill us all.

      Brown – the only Prime Minister booed by British war veterans…..

      C*UNT

    • 434
      Barbara Ellen says:

      A current Guardian columnist admitted in Loaded to making stuff up to fit deadlines.

  96. 387
    1381 says:

    Listening to Chris Huhne on Sky News discussing how a PR voting system could be manipulated to stop the unmentionables being elected, by introducing multi voting, made me utterly sick.
    His party just got 14% of the votes – hardly a vote of confidence and this arrogant twat thinks he has the right to somehow prevent others from exercising their right of a fair vote under our democratic system
    I am waiting for one of these arrogant politicians to start getting the message – but no! – the way forward is, apparently, to do their utmost to suppress it, any way that comes to hand now censorship has partially failed..
    How revolutions are born, Mr Huhne.

    • 406
      Seasick Dave says:

      Its Hoon, not Huhne.

    • 438
      Zed says:

      Agreed.
      And wasn’t it ironic that a mob in Manchester – Anti-Facists – were taking the law into their own hands in denying a legally elected candidate entry into a public place to address and thank those who chose a democratic means to choose their candidate.
      Anti-Facists = Socialists
      Strange that.
      And their lreader had a west coast of Scotland accent too.
      Not so strange.

      • 446
        1381 says:

        And so we get back to 366.

      • 472
        Tattooed_Arry says:

        The so-called Anti-Fascists have always been anti-democratic, even heroes of the Left such as Blair Peach are shown to be nothing but thugs, if one looks at the evidence.
        Which will never happen as it’s always easier to believe the Mythology.
        If the Far-Right behaved in the same manner as the Anti-Fascists, I could understand why they are vilified, but when they give up violence and use democratic means they should be encouraged. Just as the IRA were encouraged to use democratic means – oh, I just remembered, the IRA were left wingers – so that makes it different.

      • 478
        James C says:

        They were left-wing thugs.
        Had they been from the opposite end of the spectrum, the BBC would have had no hesitation in branding them right-wing thugs.

        • 490
          Doctor Mick says:

          Far left , far right. Same difference. They hate each other because they are so alike and compete for the same dull minds.

        • 823
          Agent of Chaos says:

          The unfairly-derided Anita Anand is making this exact point on BBC R5L right now!

      • 485
        Dr Nuts says:

        There’s another reason for the PR being spouted….

        PR is anti-independents! This would make sure that the only people being elected were party members. Next step would be to ban alternative parties – which would be started by banning the BNP. PLP just need one party as an excuse to pass the legislation, without mention of name, and like the anti-terrorist laws it can be exploited to attack the Conservatives and everyone who dares to challenge Labour.

      • 509
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        Did he have an interpreter and did the Beeb use sub titles?

        • 531
          Zed says:

          I’m West of Scotland so I’ll interpret for you if you wish ?
          British first, Scots second.
          For info, most WoS NuLabour Mafia are actually Irish decendents, although Brown isn’t.
          Check it out, you’ll be surprised.

      • 524
        HandsomeDavid says:

        Where were the police?

        • 554
          Anonymous says:

          Police!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          Don’t you mean the NULabour enforcement gestapo.
          Bash on head at G20.
          Tamils in parliament Square – blinkers on.
          Anti-fascists thuggery in Manchester.
          Blinkers.
          They only see what their political masters tell them to.
          Even poor Brazilians in the wrong place.

        • 672
          Doctor Mick says:

          Peaceful Countryside Alliance march – bash their brains in!!

    • 627
      Cassandra King says:

      The libdem eurotrash dogma was roundly rejected by the British voter, the libdems were content to labour under the false illusion that the British people were just itching to surrender to the EUSSR.

      The libdems thought that they would benefit from the collapse in the newlabour vote and some polls inflated their vote share putting them second to the Tories, in fact their vote base has collapsed.

  97. 413
    Geordie Scoot says:

    Back from a spell of ECT and surgical kilt removal. My mind was deranged by the prospect of another 12 months of this. The general election campaign was launched this morning in Cabinet – the tactics would appear to be:

    1. GB to keep a low profile at home and go on as many overseas jollies as possible;
    2. Lord Fondlebum and token window dressing to present government policy;
    3. Hope that something positive happens between now and June 2010;
    4. Present declines in the rate of increase/decrease in unemployment, GDP, public finances etc as real positive achievements;
    5. Hold out the prospect of unlimited growth in public spending, house prices and consumer credit under Labour post 2010, whereas under the Tories it will be interest rates of 15% and mass starvation;
    6. Prepare for the dirtiest, meanest general election campaign in living memory.

    • 435
      Crusty Old Buffer says:

      So they know they’re comprehensively stuffed, then.

    • 453
      Zed says:

      And Spend, Spend, Spend whilst tax take goes into downward spiral and public sector costs spiral upwards.
      Then hope the pound isn’t taken out by the Financial markets or the IMF called in before June 2010.
      In meantime, stand at ease and carry on troughing, comrades.

    • 474
      Dr Nuts says:

      I thought the General Election campaign started with the smear emails! I didn’t realise those were just a laugh!

    • 645
      NotaSheep says:

      You’re right about 6. The next campaign will be filthy, gutters will be embarrassed to be associated with it.

  98. 418

    Dear All

    Is this the new Met Police squad car to collect evidence?

    I hope that skip has a seatbelt so that the Met conforms to the Construction and Use Regulations 1974.

    I would hate to have Tony McNulty fall out and bang his head before the Police had a chance to ‘torture’ him.

    Perhaps he could get held down and shot in the head by the same guy who did Jean Charles de Menezes. That Shooter has got form for getting away with it; they could write it up as an attempted escape.

    Yours sincerely

    George Laird
    The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

  99. 420
    reg511 says:

    Nobody doubts his level of competence, his ability and authority’ Tessa Jowel on DP

    We all know his is outstanding incompetence, his disability and reliance on Manhandlebum of Boy for authority, and the clock struck 13

    • 469
      Dr Nuts says:

      I question his competence, ability and authority – does that make me a nobody?
      That’s a nice way to refer to the electorate, even more importantly that does reveal exactly what the PLP think of the electorate – unimportant unless voting.

      Of course the postal ballot is rigged – the Labour Party have to direct how people vote, dictatorship is all about control, and making the people do exactly as told, regardless of people’s personal opinion, as that’s irrelevant.

      • 555
        RavingMad says:

        bang goes the peerage!

      • 629
        Dr Nuts says:

        Damn, you mean I can’t be another unelected useless self-serving cabinet minister?

        Sheesh – what do you have to do to get the privilege of a lifetimes troughing?

  100. 421
    Jason Bourne in 'The Brown Ultimatum" says:

    Is there ANY way of knocking him off?

    • 440
      Anonymous says:

      I imagine he gets ‘knocked off’ fairly regularly.
      The question is by who or even what?

    • 455

      Dear Jason Bourne

      I would favour 105 mm artillery shell, it is a bit messy but the army usually have loads of ammo in stock.

      You could make a day of it, packed lunch and bring the kids with you.

      I think the BBC could do an outside broadcast and toss in a few live acts to sing a few songs.

      We could market it as ‘Shell Aid’ and get Sir Bob and Bono down to pull the first lanyard.

      Yours sincerely

      George Laird
      The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

  101. 424
    The Master says:

    If anyone thinks that an x postman is the cure for Labour then they are clearly on some kind of medication. If he were the leader all it could do would be to reduce the loses Labour will suffer. The point is that the Gorgon is now seen as a liability and target of ridicule and whether “the party” want him to continue in not relevant. He is the leader of the country and therefore has a duty & obligation to his split party and the people, yes the people, us, to sod off to North America. The PLP are a bunch of spineless muppets and should be deeply ashamed

    • 508
      MI5 says:

      To slightly paraphrase you

      Gorgon has a duty to split New Labour…

      And he is already being very successful…

  102. 425
    lolol says:

    Pravda24 showing basking sharks in Cornwall,why go there why not just go to the HOC,you can see 640 there.

  103. 429
    Peter Mandleson says:

    It is reported..

    Foreign Secretary David Miliband said the party had “reached a settled view” and did not want a new leader.

    He said that the “leading candidate” to replace Mr Brown – Home Secretary Alan Johnson – backed the PM “to the hilt”.
    ————————————————————

    “I can go one better than Postman Pat, I will back enter the PM right up to the ‘lambing bags’ “!

    • 460
      Dr Nuts says:

      That post is just perverted enough to make me wonder if that is the Real Prince of Darkness.

      As for Alan Johnson backing the Prime Minister upto the hilt – what he should’ve done was knifed him upto the hilt in the back!

      Does any PLP member have 1 a brain cell and/or 2 a spine?

      • 470
        shellingout says:

        I think we have to guess which one has the brain cell every day.

        • 513
          Dr Nuts says:

          That would be interesting – I’m surprised it hasn’t committed suicide out of lack of use. Maybe it’s obese seeing as it never gets any exercise.

          That’s why labour hates brains!

      • 1104
        Anonymous says:

        don’t worry. they will attack in a few months time
        Browns a dead man walking

    • 483
      Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

      Mandy backs him right up to the diamond on the end

  104. 430
    Mister Baiter says:

    Son, come in your lunch is ready, and stop doggy-shagging Mr Mandelson’s it’s not polite.

    • 457
      Steve the dreamer Richards says:

      According to the great sage Sir Steve Richds
      “So here is the reality. Cabinet ministers were not cowardly in staying put, but keep options open under a Prime Minister who is more dependent on their support than they are on his. In contrast the supposedly brave Purnell pulls no levers in the wilderness. ”
      Is that OK Mandy? You name the day Sir!

  105. 432
    D.Day says:

    1,700 jobs gone in Britian’s flagship, ‘engine of growth’ finance sector. Ha ha.

    Manufacturing was finished long, long ago.

    100,000s more jobcuts to come in ‘Finance’ – read Ponzi schemes.

    You’ve had it con merchants. It’s over.

    Time to rejoin the real world and start working and making things normal people NEED for a living. But you’ve forgotten how to haven’t you. And what little you can remember terrifies you because it involves honest toil and mastering crafts for upwards of five, ten years.

    • 443
      resurgemus says:

      thank you Doris

      if you see the Deadwood stage remind Mandelson he owes me for all those whips

    • 461
      Bubble on the way says:

      Still, at least house prices are back on the way up, fuelled by over-optimistic buy-to-letters and families buying studios.

      You couldn’t make it up.

      Unless, if course, you just have…

      • 507
        Stronghold Barricades says:

        the estate agents are saying prices are rising because the number of properties on the market has reduced

        Once the “green shoots” appear the properties will reappear

        Warnings are coming of a double dip, so hold onto you’re lunch

        • 543
          Long View says:

          Housing.

          The only product on the market that doesn’t depreciate with time and where the laws of supply and demand do not apply.

          According to analysts at Bank of America at least.

  106. 437
    Sir Michael Shite's rent boy says:

    Comres is a leftie organisation used by the Guardian and Independent. They are about as reliable as a Labour party promise.

  107. 454
    Nick Robinson says:

    The way I see it is whatver Lord peter tells me how to see it.
    This is Nick Upgordonsbum Downing Street

    • 488
      The twice shamed, unelected Queen Peter MindYourSon says:

      Here boy, over here. Here.
      Good boy. (offers a treat)

  108. 463
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    You know when Johnson has been around to Number 10
    the pavement is fucking strewn with red rubber bands

    • 473
      Smile please! says:

      Great photo op yesterady by the way Alan.

      You and ten cops chatting away on a deserted council estate. Very reassuring.

      • 820
        Ted Bundy says:

        Dont forget the PCSO’s Labour’s new wonder weapon in the war on crime.

    • 494
      Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

      Hazel used to collect them for bungee jumping practice

  109. 467
    Broken rear window says:

    My sphincter has just collapsed in line with Comres predictions.

  110. 468
  111. 491
    Harry Hill says:

    Did anyone see Sir Allan at today’s cabinet meeting? Do you know if he let anyone have a go on the jelly? That little &@!*%*$.

  112. 496

    Post European Election UKIP Press Conference June 9th 2009:

    • 551
      Devon Dairy says:

      I have to say that I was pretty impressed with Farage at this press conference. He actually spoke words that were not weaselly in any way which was quite refreshing.

      I have NEVER considered voting UKIP, I have always thought they were a fringe party of no-hopers, but they now seem to be a credible electoral force and they have a few interesting policies that are unconnected with getting out of Europe.

      He was straight enough to admit UKIP were broke too, despite massive EU troughing and subsidies. Looks like a better bet than either Clegg or Griffin for me at the next election, and they are already pretty big round my way (Devon).

      Does anyone have anything on them apart from serial troughing though?

      • 587
        1381 says:

        The umentionables have achieved more to promote the anti EU cause and wrong foot the ‘establishment’ in just two days than UKIP has managed in 10 years.
        UKIP are just an establishment front.
        Don’t fall into the trap of wasting your vote on candidates whose programme is to trough huge and act barely at all.
        If you want to ‘rock the boat’ do it with a good wind – not a slow drift in the doldrums.

    • 575
      Anonymous says:

      Congrats on the election.

      I voted for UKIP – first time I ever voted in a European election. To be honest, I disliked voting for the institution since I don’t accept its legitimacy, but decided a UKIP vote is ok since they wish to make Britain an independent country again.

      Thanks for the work your party has been doing. I am and always will be a Tory, it’s just that UKIP is now more Tory than the Conservatives. I’ll vote UKIP at the general election too.

  113. 499
    Jel says:

    Isn’t it glorious to see all the little Labour voters whining because they are getting the full effects of what they voted for. More of the same for them with Gordon and Mandy at the helm until the general election – then oblivion.

    • 522
      reg511 says:

      Who’s Helm?

    • 527
      Dr Nuts says:

      Or Gordon with Mandy upto the hilt in the Brown stuff in every manner…

      I thought when Mandy went to Europe we were rid of him. It’s like a bad smell, it just leaves you with a constant desire to wash, change clothes etc.

      Mandy – surely even the gay hate him?

  114. 500
    A Silent Emission of Bowel Gas says:

    Anti-Semitic, homophobic, mysogynist, bigoted, racist.

    Honestly.

    Those muslims.

    • 516
      MI5 says:

      You mean New Labour’s new friends ??

    • 528
      Dr Nuts says:

      Be careful, criticising the Labour voters is a crime punishable by Anti-Terrorist Laws, and with the election coming with 42days imprisonment without charge while evidence is being planted and b*llsh*t being promoted in the newspapers!

      Didn’t a Conservative get arrested with anti-terrorist legislation due to politically embarrassing the Glorious Brown and his cack-handed cabinet.

    • 558
      Jel says:

      and Labour voters.

    • 578
      G(urning) Brown says:

      There won’t be an election. It would only worsen the economic troubles (which started in America, at obama beach) – so I will cancel it because it’s the right thing to do for hard working families.

      You’re never getting that referundum we promised either. Vote UKIP all you want, you belong to the EU now.

      • 583
        Dr Nuts says:

        You’ve had your election – what more do you want?!

        I’m not going anywhere – I’m getting on with the job, the British hardworking family still exists, and there’s still some hetrosexuals who’re married, and haven’t been taxed into oblivion!

  115. 519
    Green Shites says:

    All the muppets believing the ‘recovery has begun’ fairytale, you’re right, the recovery of the petrol price has begun, with a vengeance. £1.02/litre already, up from 85p/litre at end of 2008. If this keeps up, with crude oil expected to go above $80/barrel by end of summer, plus further fuel duty rises from HM Treasury then 1.20/litre is likely by September. Just in tme to catch all those wankers who traded decent family motors for tat, deathtrap enonoboxes, almost all petrol-engined, on the promise of a lousy Grand.

    • 535
      Zed says:

      Oil priced in dollars. Pound slips 25% against dollar since last fuel price high.
      Do the maths, inflation here we come…

      • 560
        David's Turkey says:

        It’s usually hyperinflation after quantitative easing.

        • 580
          Jel says:

          That’ll be great for my double state pension pension (+ Serps) as rises are tied to inflation. Can’t start soon enough for me. Get back some of the Equitable money they stole from me.

        • 613

          You trust the state inflation figures.

          Big Mistake.

    • 536
      Moley says:

      Announcements on the job losses front don’t look very promising either.

      and

      Slight improvements in the housing market in Spring are as significant as water being wet.

    • 547
      Crusty Old Buffer says:

      Public sector debt levels ensure that taxation will have to stay high for a long time, further slowing recovery.

    • 633
      JMT says:

      Agreed.

      Every successful economy is based on cheap energy, since we no longer have cheap energy we are going to fail.

      Some queries about the eco-nonsense.

      If the science is settled why are still paying for “climate research”?
      If the Met Office can predict Summer 2080, why can not they get it right next week?
      If spending on schools/hospitals is dependent on revenue from oil, which they do not want us to use, surely the chancellor is a cock?
      If the “extra” revenue from fuel taxes is spent createing “Green Jobs”, how will they be funded if we stop using oil? Sustainable my arse.
      How can the icepacks be melting when sea-ice extent is greater than it was in 1979 (when satellite records began)?
      If CO2 causes “Global Warming” and “Global Cooling”, what will the weather be like with no CO2?
      Why has the BBC – a major power user solely dependent on public subscription – not been shut down immediately?

      • 1322
        Zed says:

        Yip – it’s a scam.
        To be used as and when tax revenue is required.
        Doesn’t matter how long records go back – FFS humans have only been on this planet for a nanosecond in relation to the beginning of the planet. The temperature is a rational fluctuation and carbon follows temperature – temperature does not follow carbon !
        If you think I’m in denial, consider this:
        Only a decade or two ago we were all convinced Aids would mean that only 6 people would be alive on earth by 2009. sounds ludicrous now, doesn’t it ?
        It’s a scam.

    • 668
      Doctor Mick says:

      We haven’t seen the impact of the mounting redundancies yet. It’s a small snowball at the moment but it’s going to come thundering down the hill before long.

  116. 523
    shellingout says:

    ……and more future labour voters are still coming in……

  117. 532
    John Ward says:

    ComRes does produce some strange results sometimes. At complete variance with all other polls (including their own) they polled just 30% for the Conservatives at a General Election, just over a week ago.

    Every other poll had them on 39% or higher, so this was well outside the plus-or-minus 3% error factor that is accepted within the pollster fraternity.

    If anyone wants the full ComRes history for 2009 (and even 2008!) I have a complete record here of those and all other such polls, and can quote whatever details are wanted.

    • 643
      Anonymous says:

      More to the point what’s happened to the political betting website? Seems stuck back on 25 April 2009 whenever I go there.

      • 764
        Anonymous says:

        the place is shite… f u c k all being updated.
        And more to the point who cares. Its all rotten.

      • 1340
        John Ward says:

        They seem to have no end of technical problems there, for some reason. Although they are very popular, they don’t get the levels of traffic that Guido does, yet frequently the site is unavailable or some other issue.

        This updating prob has been going on for over a week now. There is a way to access more recent posts, using the IP address directly; but I’ve given up doing that until they sort themselves out once and for all.

        Meanwhile, UK Poling Report is as valuable as ever.

      • 1341
        John Ward says:

        They seem to have no end of technical problems there, for some reason. Although they are very popular, they don’t get the levels of traffic that Guido does, yet frequently the site is unavailable or has some other issue.

        This updating prob has been going on for over a week now. There is a way to access more recent posts, using the IP address directly; but I’ve given up doing that until they sort themselves out once and for all.

        Meanwhile, UK Poling Report is as valuable as ever.

  118. 538
    Anonymous says:

    Can somebody please organise a demonstration against these bastards so we can physically oust them from Parliament/Downing-Street in our millions and force an immediate general election?

    I’m sick to death of labour telling me that their worst election result in 100 years is proof that people are asking for them to continue in power and that we all think their policies are working well, and I’m sick of them saying that the worst economic crisis we’ve ever had is best fixed by the person/party that created it.

    • 553
      Anonymous says:

      Didn’t you know? Black is now white.

    • 556
      Keith Vaz says:

      As soon as I have finished this plate of chocolate eclairs and coconut creams.

    • 564
      D.Day says:

      Has it not dawned on you that the capacity for such action does not exist amongst the English people? If it did, a)it would have happened long before Jun 2009, for example the obviously lied about, illegal, war crime of the Iraq invasion – and don’t retort with the 2m, ‘not in my name’ march thing; compare to most western European nations where the opposition to the Iraq war was almost unanimous when in England it was at best 50/50 and b)the British ruling regime would never have dared to legislate the most repressive, tyrannical(“Police State”) powers ever known in a supposed western democracy, USA included, with its Patriot, MCA Acts etc..

      It’s not in the English. Prove me wrong. Some blame the loss of courage with loss of the finest in the WWI slaughter. Don’t buy it. Others suffered proportionately worse but went on to show balls afterwards. The English have always been an easily cowed nation, more comfortable dishing out the tyranny and beatings than taking it. Your fate is sealed. There will be no mass demonstration, a la Ceausescu on Christmas Day, less still a ‘physical ousting’. Neither will there be a Velvet Revolution led by your cultural leaders like the Czechs. Stephen Fry, Simon Cowell to guide to you the sunlit uplands of freedom? Your fate is interminable misery against the backdrop of accelerating economic decay with complete breakdown within two years. You will have company, the former United States, that will spilt and balkanise.

      • 577
        Watt Tyler says:

        The English take a long time to rouse – that’s all. It’s only, what – a year? 18 months? – since Gordon lied about his intention to have an election. Then there was the Constitutional Lisbon Treaty lie they were caught in. Only now have people realised that there is a blackness at the heart of government. In time, there will be a war.

      • 579
        Anonymous says:

        Doris don’t get so angry, sing your troubles away like the old days, remember ?

        Oh! The Deadwood Stage is a-rollin’ on over the plains,
        With the curtains flappin’ and the driver slappin’ the reins.
        Beautiful sky! A wonderful day!
        Whip crack-away!, Whip crack-away!, Whip crack-away!

      • 581
        Moley says:

        A very practical question.

        How do you organise a demonstration in a totalitarian state like ours, given the degree of censorship and monitoring?

        Government.

        Mass media.

        Don’t hold your breath.

        • 594
        • 611
          A Viking says:

          You are right sir the English are at best bovine. In Germany the Saxons are the butt of most jokes here they are lazy and unquestioning. As Sir David Steel said the English love being ruled by talented i.e. foreign people

        • 642
          D.Day says:

          Fair Point Moley. I’m not English but I do remember over ten years ago in 1998 when NATO(RAF) bombed Serbia/the Serbians who were being ethnically cleansed from Kosovo and particularly the death of 80-odd civilians who were fleeing the fighting and were bombed and strafed by NATO(RAF?) warplanes who ‘mistook’ their tractors & trailers for a Yugoslav military column. I was physically revolted at the time, incensed and yet I remember to this day the lack of any common feeling amongst the English people around me. The same feeling recurred at the time of the Iraq invasion.

          The point is it is too late. The surveillance and oppression is complete. The time to react and institute change constitutionally and democratically was years ago when this horror and plain evil was apparrent for all to see. You have no choices left. The trigger now will not be democratic but economic. Like the USSR Britain will not change through a Glasnost type revolution but through a catclysmic economic collapse. All that is in question now is what comes after that.

        • 649
          Watt Tyler says:

          Well, we’ll see won’t we.

        • 1021
          Hadrian's Fall says:

          Sorry, Watt, much of what has been said here is true.

          The English are generally ignorant, self-serving and spineless. Which is probably how we ended up with New Labour in the first place.

        • 1039
          Moley says:

          I forgot.

          Join a political party, or if two parties represent your views join both.

          eg. Conservative and UKIP.

          A popular political party has the organisational strength necessary for demonstrations.

      • 618

        I think you might be that pro-EUSSR idiot making horrendous basic economics mistakes.

        • 980
          Moley says:

          I may well be an idiot but I am certainly not Pro EUSSR.

          i have actually been thinking hard about the practicalities of organising demonstrations in this country if the Government does not like them.

        • 1218

          Not You, D-Day.

      • 904
        Anonymous says:

        d.day; what you say is correct. My original question was kind of rhetorical because I know it wouldn’t happen for precisely the reasons that you state. I was just venting my spleen I guess.
        Therefore I’ve only really got 2 choices:
        1) Emigrate (and come back when labour are gone and the country’s been fixed).
        2) Accept it.

        Thus far I haven’t emigrated, but that’s purely for practical reasons. However, those practical reasons are soon to be outweighed by the negative aspects and it’ll soon be more practical to emigrate than to accept things.

        As my work is 100% web-based, I can work anywhere. If we don’t get a change of government in 2010 then I’m 100% sure I’ll emigrate, otherwise I’m just going to grin and bear it until 2010.

        Having said that, if there was a Ceausescu-style ousting, then I’d be there, otherwise I’m simply going to leave if the government doesn’t change by june 2010.

  119. 540
    Anonymous says:

    Mandelson is only keeping Brown in to make sure there’s no election before the irish referendum because that could mean a UK referendum. As soon as that’s happened, he’ll stick the knife in and Brown will be toast.

    • 589
      Dr Nuts says:

      Do you think there’s a clear alternative to Brown?

      Mandelson takes the helm – there’ll be lower votes than under Brown.

      I know it’s hard to do, but Mandy has managed it – he’s more hated than the Glorious Gurner!

      • 638
        not long til mandy stabds brown in the back says:

        A blindfolded monkey with his hands tied behind his back would be better than Brown.

        Mandelscum has always been more hated than brown. The only way he gets away with it is through blackmail.

  120. 546
    Moley says:

    A thought for Labour and Lib Dem MPs.

    The electorate are not stupid.

    If you thought your results were bad in the latest election, think what they would be like if you tried to change the electoral system to suit yourselves in the last year of a dying and unrepresentative Government.

    • 573
      Bardirect says:

      PR will be good for extreme left wing parties like the BNP and the Greens though!

    • 628
      Jel says:

      Some of the electorate are extremely stupid. Who do you think voted Labour in THREE times in a row. Now they are resorting to voting BNP to prove their point.

    • 670
      Anonymous says:

      Can`t change the electoral system without a referendum

      • 797
        Bardirect says:

        So what? If it keeps the Torees out and lets up to 40 BUNDP in with their 6.2% then it will be the right thing to do for hard working families and indeed the non working Labour supporting “core vote.”

  121. 568
    Bureau of Public Secrets says:

    James Tiberius Kirk once said “fortune favors the foolish” in the epic masterpiece Star Trek IV

  122. 572
    Anonymous says:

    Just watched that gross Malik telling us how all three main parties must collude to stop the unmentionables.
    Bloody cheek.
    How many votes to them was that worth?

    • 597
      Anonymous says:

      Shahid Malik’s brand of extremism is far more worrying than Nick Griffin’s.

      • 603
        M.T.BUCKET says:

        It sure is, any guesses why he wants it that way.

      • 626
        Jel says:

        But will he still be interested when the gravy train comes off the rails? How will he cope without a massage chair?

    • 621
      Moley says:

      I agree with Malik. All three parties should agree to;

      End any talk of introducing Sharia Law.
      Dismantle multiculturalism and encourage integration.
      Produce policies to tackle ghettoisation of towns and cities.
      Tightly control immigration including family members.

      If Labour introduced these policies they would regain their core vote.

      Manipulating the electoral system is not the way forward. The B— represents a safety valve with steam blowing out of it. Closing the safety valve will produce an explosion.

      • 640
        Expat says:

        Agreed

        And prosecute those responsible for the excision of young Muslim girls,

        As the French Courts do…

      • 644
        Boris says:

        In order for the British working class which votes B*P to be recovered, the Government will also have to stop discriminating in favour of immigrants and ansylum seekers…

  123. 583
    Clinical says:

    What part of the electorate are Labour trying to “reconnect with” when they allow Keith Vaz near a TV camera?

    I wouldn’t shake hands with him without a tub of Swarfega ready.

  124. 586
    Gordon Brown says:

    In the calmness after last night’s meeting with the PLP, I was able to reflect on the Presbytarian philosophy of my father. It was my family that gave me the backbone to get through difficult times. I remembered this little ditty and smiled…

    The boy stood on the burning deck
    Picking his nose like mad
    He rolled it up into tiny balls
    And flicked them at his dad.

    That’s me that is…….such joy

    • 592
      JMT says:

      The boy stood on the burning deck,
      his a**ehole to the mast.
      He would not move from there
      ’til Voldemoort had passed.
      Now Voldemoort, a crafty lad, tossed the boy a plum,
      As the boy stooped down to pick it, Voldemoort rammed it up his bum!!

  125. 591
    Aristotle says:

    Does GB own a Turkey factory in East Anglia ?

    It recycles Peers and tarnished MP’s, sending them back to Westminster as “respectable” cabinet members.

  126. 593
    It's all Balls says:

    O/T

    Doesn’t the mental image of a hung Parliament brighten up your day?

    It did mine when the thought just crossed my mind.

    Perchance to dream.

    • 620
      Dr Nuts says:

      Only if the Parliamentarians are being hung of Lamp-posts.

      It needs to be done with particular style, no large-drops to break the neck, we want them to SUFFER! After all, I’ve seen all those PLP w*nk*rs state that Brown is the best chancellor we’ve ever had, while our pensions were being deliberately annihilated. But of course the PLP pensions are untouchable.

      With them should go the BBC politico’s who also have gold-plated pensions and the f*ck*ng cheek to think we’d be happy that our pensions are expendible, because theirs wont be raided.

      I’d love to see that the PLP and BBC pensions are subjected to Labour Policy – wipe the smiles from their faces and face the same reality we all have!

      • 634
        It's all Balls says:

        Those pirate fellas did it right. They hung them in cages and let the birds feed off their flesh.

        We could lift the pigeon feeding ban in Trafalgar Square.

        Dr Nuts, between us I see the makings of a cunning plan.

  127. 604
    Charles E Hardwidge says:

    someone please help me i fell over and i landed on a gerbil and it accidentally went up my arse and now its stuck

    • 615
      Bardirect says:

      Why were you naked?

    • 616
      DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:

      You think you need help? What about the poor gerbil?!

    • 617
      Richard Gere says:

      Here, let me help.

    • 623
      Dr Nuts says:

      Fine – lie back, open wide and say AAaaaargh! cos I’ll damn well make sure this hurts – a lot, and no matter how much – it’s not enough!

    • 625
      It's all Balls says:

      Charles – can the Gerbil tell us if there is light at the end of your tunnel?

    • 637
      Acme pest control plc says:

      You will find that the very practical 1oz semtex buttplug works to universal acclaim and will deal with most vermin.

    • 648

      Anyone else remember this, in the papers a few years ago:

      “In retrospect, lighting the match was my big mistake. But I was only trying to retrieve the gerbil”, Charles E Hardwidge told bemused doctors in the Severe Burns Unit of Salt Lake City Hospital. Hardwidge, and his homosexual partner Harman Pride, had been admitted for emergency treatment after a felching session had gone seriously wrong. I pushed a cardboard tube up his rectum and slipped Gordon, our gerbil, in, he explained. As usual, Pride shouted out “‘Armageddon’, my cue that he’d had enough. I tried to retrieve Gordon but he wouldn’t come out again, so I peered into the tube and struck a match, thinking the light might attract him. At a hushed press conference, a hospital spokesman described what happened next. The match ignited a pocket of intestinal gas and a flame shot out the tube, igniting Mr Hardwidge’s hair and severely burning his face. It also set fire to the gerbil’s fur and whiskers which in turn ignited a larger pocket of gas further up the intestine, propelling the rodent out like a cannonball. Hardwidge suffered second degree burns and a broken nose from the impact of the gerbil, while Pride suffered first and second degree burns to his anus and lower intestinal tract.

      Alll true, I tell you.

    • 677
      Dirty Rat says:

      Try tempting it out with a little bit of cheese.

      • 718
        Dirty Rat says:

        I would like to put it on the record that gerbils are dirty little fuckers with no sense of decency. You would never find a rat up anyone’s arse.

        • 1251
          Jam rolly polly says:

          You would never find a rat up anyone’s arse.

          toenails Robinson?

    • 763
      Huntsman says:

      Try a Jack Russell.

  128. 605
    Dark Baron MandleBum of Hard ol' poo and boy says:

    I am very pleased, as I know all of you will be, at the news that my wonderful, colleague Mr Malik is in fact whiter thatn white!

    • 622
      Steve Expat says:

      :-)

      [/irony]

      • 630
        Dark Baron MandleBum of Hard ol' poo and boy says:

        Quite.

        I am of course, also please that he along with many many other colleagues have not had to be judged in the court of public opinion, we much prefer to keep everything in house!

    • 1433
      Nearly Headless Nick. says:

      So White is better than Black?

  129. 606
    Cassandra King says:

    Didnt comres also vastly inflate the projected libdem share of the vote? something around ten percent if I remember correctly, the libdems actually did very badly at the polls but their share of the vote was inflated by all the pollsters.
    The libdems seem to have escaped critical comment so far, extreme eurotrash federalists trying to peddle an anti British pro Brussels ticket? No wonder the British voter punished them, yet they were not challenged about their own inflated claims of popularity.

  130. 612

    Dear All

    I wonder if Tony McNulty is going to do a Dame Shirley Porter and flee the country?

    I think the authorities would willingly drive him to the airport!

    Yours sincerely

    George Laird
    The Campaign for Human Rights at Glasgow University

  131. 636
    Steve Expat says:

    General election now – petition on No.10 website.

    http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/GoToCountryNow/ – up to 6,000 signatures

  132. 652
    13eastie says:

    Brown-eye is deaf as well as blind.

    He has forgotten entirely who he works for.

    I think we should escalate the issue of his failure to call an election to his manager.

    I believe his weekly meeting with the Queen is at 6.30pm on Wednesdays.

    Let’s thrash the issue out at the Palace tomorrow evening.

  133. 655
    resurgemus says:

    Griffin having fun in Parliament Square

  134. 658
  135. 659
    olly says:

    nick griffin pelted with eggs outside parliament http://fsn.typepad.com/blog/

    • 1390
      Bri says:

      Funny that there were no police around outside HoC to stop the demonstration against 2 democratically elected MEPs being assaulted when they tried to give a press conference.

      If they had been Labour MEPs the demonstrators would have been dealt with faster than you could say John Charles De Me…..

      Another future few thousand to the B@P at the next election.

      Who are paying for these protesters to follow Griffin & co around?

      I thought we were a democracy.

      And no I did not vote for them, nor do I agree with their policies.

  136. 663
    GeraldineSmithMP (Morecrumbs & Loonsdale) says:

    I think I speak for the whole of the united government when I say we know what the people want and we are striving to achieve it. We know you want the economy sorted out and we know you want the expenses mess sorted. Believe me, it what we all in the new United New All- Singing and Dancing New New Labour Party want too. This is why we a clinging to power in the folorn hope that we might actually get to the end of the year without strangling Gordon and putting a dead trout in his place. Oh dear, I think I might be losing it. Back to my constituency quick!!

    • 682
      Aristotle says:

      Just to remind you – a referendum was part of the Manifesto offering in 2005 and strangely it still appears that in 2009 80%+ of the people want one.

      A Populus poll for the Times http://www.populus.co.uk/the-times-times-poll-may-2009-080509.html
      has found overwhelming support for a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, even in a situation where it has
      already been ratified by Ireland and the rest of the EU. 82% of people agreed with the statement,
      “If Ireland and other countries ratify the Lisbon Treaty on the future of the European Union,
      Britain should hold its own referendum on the issue”,
      with 52% strongly agreeing and only 14% disagreeing.
      92% of Conservative voters, 76% of Labour voters and 85% of Liberal Democrats voters agreed that
      Britain should have a referendum on the Treaty.
      (Times, 13 May 2009)

      • 705
        Steve Expat says:

        Wishful thinking on the part of most people there, unfortunately.

        Once it is ratified by everyone it comes into law automatically, requiring another Treaty to revoke it (it’s made deliberately difficult).

        Cameron is right, there really is no point in a referendum on something which has already been decided.

        The only hope now is that the Irish see sense and vote ‘NO’, in the face of almost unlimited spending and campaigning for the opposite result

      • 721
        Master Baiter says:

        The question for the Conservitudes is if the Lisbon Treaty is ratified by the European Union before the election of a Conservitude government, do you guarantee holding a plebiscite on the Lisbon Treaty?

        • 843
          Max says:

          Answer at 693 MB.

        • 880
          Costa del Dole says:

          Best check your temperature, mate – you’ve posted a comment that makes sense. Either it’s Swine Flu, or the cacophont of monkeys inside your head has just come up with their first draft of Hamlet.

        • 955
          Anonymous says:

          Probably an impostor

        • 1217
          Dr Nuts says:

          I answered this yesterday – you have a very short memory!

  137. 666
    resurgemus says:

    Guido

    if you cant speed up modeartion on the 3 letter party people will miss the sport from this afternoon – unless your planning to do a peice yourself

  138. 667
    1381 says:

    So Nick Griffin and Andrew Brons have just been threatened with violence pelted with eggs and denied the right of free speech by the same fascist anti-fascists as in Manchester. Fascists who really have no understanding of British democracy in their bigoted brains.
    No police, presumably, willing to offer him protection.
    The leader of the thugs is on now on Sky trying to justify his action
    Dare I mention he is black.
    They intend to follow Griffin and deny him his basic rights and the rights of the rest of us – because we have free speech – or did – and the right to hear our elected representatives. No longer, just those these thugs decide we are allowed to hear.
    The result of 12 years of labour.
    It looks like Mugabe like thugs are now allowed free rein on the streets of our cities unchalleged by the NuLabour gestapo – otherwise known as ‘police’.
    Welcome to multi culti Britain.

    • 669
      Jel says:

      Well, we know who to vote for at the General Election.

    • 680
      1381 says:

      Sky is nnnnnow interviewing Nick Griffin and blaming him for daring to hold a press conference and being BNP.
      Justifying the violence and supporting the thugs.
      Incredible.
      Griffin claims that this thuggish organization is funded by taxpayers and lottery money courtesy of all three main parties and is challenging the media to investigate.
      Fond hopes. He also asks why the police are taking no action.
      He was at a Press conference with many journalists willing to answer all questions.

    • 684
      1381 says:

      Sky is nnow interviewing Nick Griffin and blaming him for daring to hold a press conference and being unmentionable.
      Justifying the violence and supporting the thugs.
      Incredible.
      Griffin claims that this thuggish organization is funded by taxpayers and lottery money courtesy of all three main parties and is challenging the media to investigate.
      Fond hopes. He also asks why the police are taking no action.
      He was at a Press conference with many journalists willing to answer all questions

      • 686
        resurgemus says:

        Beeb 24 reporting texts received overwhelmingly against attacking Griffin, and then the Left accuse other parties of helping Griffin and co win seats !

    • 693
      Steve Expat says:

      Sad isn’t it, that these guys couldn’t persuade more than a third of us to come out and vote last week, then have the tenacity to complain about who was elected.

      I abhor the policies of the unmentionables as much as everyone else, but we live in a democracy where there is free speech – these thuggish demonstrators do nothing but play into the hands of Griffin and friends. Ditto for those who refuse to speak to them and just say they are evil and not to vote for them without any rational arguement.

      Now that the unmentionables have got themselves elected, they are very close to becoming mainstream. Ignoring them and pretending that the elephant in the corner is not there will do nothing but generate more votes for them than the 950,000 they got last week.

    • 696
      Richard Lynn says:

      Remember the No Free Speech for Fascism movement?
      Anyone deemed a fascist, spelt facist, could be denied the right to speech or be kicked out of a job as happened at Brown’s alma mater Edinburgh University to Chris Brand.

    • 697
      deeznuts says:

      You are only allowed free speech in the UK if you are

      A, Bonkers and Muslim

      B, Nuts and Muslim

      C, Muslim

      I dont support the BumP, but under a free democratic society they have the right to be heard….even if you find their views deplorable.

      Once the government spent millions protecting Salman Rushdie, from the muslim nutters

      now the government protects the muslim nutters….and you woner why people vote BumP

    • 836
      Cassandra King says:

      The police are under DIRECT orders to stand aside and let the uaf/searchlight thugs and bullies attack Griffin and his supporters, list of adresses are being examined by the nasty bastards with a view to launching revenge and hate attacks on party members!

      Zimbabwe and the UK are now the same, bullying thugs running wild and helped by a corrupted police force, someone is going to be killed by these anti democratic leftist vermin.

    • 849
      Max says:

      My eyes are rubbish; did you write “multi Hooni”?

  139. 674
    Anonymous says:

    Look, here’s proof of the ‘new’ Gordon Brown: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5485793/Gordon-Brown-refuses-to-publish-report-into-finances-of-Labour-MP-Shahid-Malik.html

    What a c**t.

    And I bet the idiot population fall for it too…

    • 694
      Aristotle says:

      Can we call that Whitewash ? or is that a banded term ?

    • 700
      Groucho says:

      Pretty much indefensible, but then again Gordon couldn’t give a shit what we think.

      His ‘humility’ act has saved his skin for the time being. Now its back to business as usual.

    • 710
      Steve Expat says:

      FoI request in 3, 2, 1…..

    • 777
      Anonymous says:

      That’s trans-pair-ancy for yer.

    • 919
      The resident Londonistani says:

      Funny how they waited until after the elections to announce this piece of whitewash.

    • 1444
      Susie says:

      Ah but I don’t think the DT has finished with young Malik yet:

      Shahid Malik and the mysterious second office

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/cabinet-expenses/5489522/Shahid-Malik-and-the-mysterious-second-office.html

      “Mr Malik last night said the “Office 2″ claims were for “additional office space”.

      He declined to say where that office space was. He also refused to answer questions about who he rents it from.

      Office expenses are intended to reimburse MPs for the cost of running an office in their constituency, however it is unclear why Mr Malik would need a second office in a town the size of Dewsbury.

      It’s sad really — he must have felt such a sense of well-being for a few hours today only for the DT to put him right back on the griddle. What a fucking excellent paper the DT is!

  140. 675
    Doris in a Morris says:

    There’s a lot of assumption flying about that there will be a General Election in the next 12 months.
    Once the Irish have come up with the ‘right’ answer and the EU Constitreaty kicks in on Jan 1st 2010, Westminster will become redundant.
    Don’t you people understand what the New World Order actually means for democracy as we knew it?
    The one-eyed Scottish idiot will stay in place as there are still things left undone, which his Bilderberg masters need in place for their project to be complete.
    Their place-man, Mandelson, will ensure their wishes are implemented. He’s already had his 30 pieces of EU silver to do their bidding.
    Watch out for the adoption of the €uro (read rEUble) without the promised referendum – no surprise, there, then – they have form in that department… and watch out for a manipulated terror attack so that the Civil Contingencies Act can be invoked, which will allow for curfews to be imposed and elections cancelled.
    We are all being set up to be their slaves on their global plantation or to be their cannon-fodder to fight their wars.
    Now if only I could find the scalpel so I can dig that microchip out of my neck and do a runner?

  141. 676
    Councillor Charles Hardwidge Deceased says:

    I will rise from the dead and publish another list of BNP members.
    Should be informative

  142. 679
    Doris in a Morris says:

    Wow – posty #666 … spooky or what?

    • 681
      Anonymous says:

      @669 – Two boys and a girl?

      • 687
        Aristotle says:

        Milly , Molly and Mandy ?

        • 701
          Doris in a Morris says:

          But that’s three girlies.

        • 737
          Harriet Harman says:

          Just because Mandy wears pink socks does not make him a girlie!
          My equality bill will get rid of such sexist attitudes as what cause the economic crisis and the collpase of LehMANn BROTHERS. You have not seen a sisters bank collapse have you? So there!

      • 704
        The Neighbour of the Beast says:

        667

  143. 690
    Aristotle says:

    Boris, Morris and Doris ?

  144. 695
    A Silent Emission of Bowel Gas says:

    Just saw two fascist mobs on TV outside parliament.

    One was throwing eggs and leading a disgusting mob forward to try to force someone to stop giving a perfectly legal press conference.

    The other was the BNP.

  145. 698

    Gordon Brown says:

    “As we have responded to the economic crisis by taking control of our banks, aggressively fighting repossessions and preventing higher unemployment, so too we are wrestling today with stabilising and supporting Britain’s car industry and building the foundations for Britain’s prosperity and we responded on the expenses crisis by taking steps to reform the system and of course we have a record that we are proud of in schools, in hospitals, in fighting crime. But the task in front of us is clear.

    “First to clean up politics, secondly to push forward with our economic recovery and third to ensure the best opportunities for people through reformed public services that are tailored and far more responsive to people’s needs.”

    The choice is clear.

    Gordon Brown is getting on with the job. He will not pass by on the other side when people are losing their homes and jobs. Instead, he is making the long-term decisions necessary to safeguard our future, offering real help now to hard-working families.

    Gordon Brown is also committed to cleaning up Parliament after the expnses scandal. Votes are rightly angry with all parties after the way MPs have unacceptably claimed for lightbulbs, duckponds and moats.

    David Cameron’s Tories will do nothing. they will cut public spending and do nothing to help hard-working families.

    • 707
      Aristotle says:

      Gordon Brown says:

      ” The world is flat ” etc etc

    • 709
      Groucho says:

      Do I hear a cuckoo?

    • 711
      Anonymous says:

      Yawn.

    • 714
      Charles Linpdicke says:

      You are a twat.

    • 716
      resurgemus says:

      the workers of LDV thank you for your unstinting support

      • 727

        The BBC is reporting the pound is sliding after the Tory wins at the elections. That’s another reason for Brown to focus and Labour to get behind the leadership.

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8084631.stm

        • 733
          resurgemus says:

          surley you mean get behind Mandelson – Brown counts or nothing

        • 742
          Aristotle says:

          Get you facts straight – that was Friday 5th June’s news after the ministerial resignations – today the £-$ has recovered

        • 828
          Dee Selleck-Brown says:

          Any slide in the pound is the result of the Snot-Gobbler refusing to leave office.
          The recovery will only start once he has been kicked out.

      • 748
        Aristotle says:

        as do the C&G workers, and many others across the country

        • 754

          You lie, ramble, and betray your emotions all the time, Aristotle. It’s like watching someone’s mind play on a TV screen. I don’t even have to move and your arrows go flying past without touching me because you’re aiming at a target which doesn’t exist, like a drunk man with double vision.

          Seriously, dude. You need to Zen out.

        • 762

          You l1e, ramble, and betray your emotions all the time, Aristotle. It’s like watching someone’s mind play on a TV screen. I don’t even have to move and your arrows go flying past without touching me because you’re aiming at a target which doesn’t exist, like a man with double vision.

          Seriously, dude. You need to Zen out.

        • 824
          Aristotle says:

          i consider myself flattered that you offer me advice

        • 994

          You l1e, ramble, and betray your emotions all the time, Aristotle. It’s like watching someone’s mind play on a TV screen. I don’t even have to move and your arrows go flying past without touching me because you’re aiming at a target which doesn’t exist, like a man with double vision.

          Seriously, dude. You need to Zen out.

          Again.

    • 729
      Neph says:

      You sir, are either intellectualy challenged to the ‘nth degree or a fellow with a firm grasp on abstract irony..

      If the latter is the case, perhaps you will appreciate the further, rich vein of irony in those freedom-of-speech-loving-anti-nazi’s who have been pelting their bona-fide socialist brothers (BNP) with eggs. It’s a bit like watcing two snakes eating each others tail…

    • 799
      Cassandra King says:

      Is that why newlabour support is running at FIFTEEN PERCENT?

    • 825
      English Liberation Front says:

      Gosh! Nice lies!

    • 1222
      Anonymous says:

      Check the budget mate. Gordon Brown has already committed to cutting public spending by 7% after the next election. It is just one more thing that is being hidden from the public by the media and bizarrely by the Tories.

  146. 702

    A reason you have deleted my comment then Guido?

  147. 713

    Here are some of the ways in which Gordon Brown is giving real help now to hard-working families. As you read this, ask yourself: What would the Tories do? Can you really trust them to carry on Labour’s progressive policies?

    Inflation rates have averaged less than half their rates between 1979 and 1997 in the past decade
    New mums now have 9 months paid maternity leave and maternity pay is up to £112.75 a week.
    A right to paternity leave for all dads
    Parents of young and disabled children have the new right to request flexible working.
    All parents can get help saving for their children’s future with the Child Trust Fund, with the most help going to the poorest children and children in care.
    The Working Tax Credit provides help with childcare, up to a maximum eligible amount of £300 per week. (£175 per week for one child).
    As a result of the tax credit system, 4 in 10 families – over 3 million families- now pay no net tax.

    Child Benefit which was £575 a year in 1997 will by 2010 be over £1,000;
    The basic rate of income tax was cut in April 2008 to just 20 pence – its lowest level for over 75 years.
    We will extend paid maternity leave to a whole year by the end of this Parliament.
    By April 2010, households with children will be, on average, £2,000 better off in real terms than in 1997. Households with children in the poorest fifth of the population will be, on average, £4,500 better off.
    We will open 3,500 Sure Start Children’s Centres by 2010 – providing childcare, healthcare, early education and family support.
    New Saving Gateway accounts will be available by 2010 for those on lower incomes with the government matching the money people save to help promote saving.

    • 717
      Charles Linpdicke says:

      You are still a twat.

      • 722
        Dirty Rat says:

        And the UK. state pension is still one of the lowest in Europe. You forgot to mention that one cnut.

    • 723
      resurgemus says:

      i’m sure all those people at Cheltenham and Gloucester will have your list at the top of their mind

    • 725
      The resident Londonistani says:

      But how many foreigners will all that apply to – at the British taxpayers’ expense?

    • 726
      Steve Expat says:

      Tractor stats, tractor stats…

      Shut up and go back to Labourlost Hardwidge

      To quote Dan Hannan: “I have to tell you, you sound like a Brezhnev-era Apparatchik giving the party line. You know, and we know, and you know that we know that it’s nonsense….

      • 736

        I don’t know how Guido’s army can consistently and with impunity ignore facts like those I’ve printed above.

        How do explain the FACT that the pound has slumped since the Tories’ election victories?

        Another FACT for you: Labour has suffered the WORST YEAR in our history, and yet Cameron is still only predicted to have a majority of betweeen 2 and 24 at the next elections.

        The Tories will pick their “facts” and “opinions” and try and frame or influence Labour. A lot of people get squeezed or upset by that which is exactly what Cameron wants. It’s his *version* of the truth. Sometimes, you have to dance like a butterfly and sting like a bee. The sooner Labour learn that the sooner they’ll start writing their own future.

        Truth is a funny thing. There’s your truth, my truth, and the truth truth. Sometimes, the truth Cameron bigs up is just a cleverly massaged lie, and the same goes for the media. I’m not advocating people like but like any work of art you have to capture or create an essence. Sometimes, that involves letting go as our own minds often cloud the issue.

        • 745
          Ian Academic says:

          The Pound almost going to parity with the Euro was before the election.

        • 746
          Kevin says:

          Or the pound has slumped since the markets have not seen Gordon quit. I know which is more likely.

        • 759
          Charles Halfwitted says:

          Combine harvester sales rise in the Ukraine.

        • 760
          The resident Londonistani says:

          Then there’s NuLabour truth – referendum, anyone?
          What a bunch of lying Marxist kunts. I await their collective Ceaucescu moment – the champers is already on ice.

        • 765
          Aristotle says:

          11th Mat $1.51 9th Jun $1.62 – seems to be sliding in the right direction :-)

        • 769
          R.McGeddon says:

          Charles, the only accurate words in your drivel @ 723 are the first three.

          You should have placed a full stop there.

        • 772
          resurgemus says:

          Try

          you were predicting the Tories would get nowhere and they’ve won nearly all the councils

          the markets react to uncertainty and all comments say that they will go up when brown goes – him hanging on because he’s shit scared of voters is continuing the uncertainty

          Cameron has to have one of the biggest vote swings in modern history win so he aint going to be getting a huge majority

          You always talk bollocks – though entertaining bollocks it must be said

        • 774
          grandma B says:

          Yes, I have noticed that Labour has suffered the

        • 788
          Dr Feelgood says:

          Where are the ‘graphics fidelity’ citations?

        • 789
          grandma B says:

          Yes, I have noticed that Labour has suffered the WORST YEAR in their history and so have the general public. That’s why the Labour vote plunged to 15%. Six more months of Gordon Brown and it will be 10%

        • 794
          The Electorate says:

          why don’t you go and write your own blog?

          oh, funny, you do – fuck off

        • 810
          Steve Expat says:

          774, the Labour vote was 5% of the electorate – 2/3rds couldn’t even be bothered to turn up.

        • 832
          Dee Selleck-Brown says:

          You are the reincarnation of William Joyce and I claim my £5.

      • 752
        .243 Win says:

        This and further extracts from “How to build a Client State : The G. Brown Cookbook” (or should that be “Cooked books” ?) available to any troll who wants to trot them out.

        Oh, and giving “Help to hardworking families” : “The cost to the Treasury alone will be up to £53m in unemployment benefits and lost taxes in the first year. 4,000 British jobs are at risk with more than1,000 in the Midlands region” (Ian Tonkin, Beed Business Info.).

        That and > 1,000 soon-to-be-ex C&G employees all probably feel that they’re really being “helped”.

        • 780
          .243 Win says:

          “our own minds often cloud the issue.”

          Explains why you’re letting the Dear Leader and all his “Talents” do your thinking for you then.

    • 740
      Anonymous says:

      And the price tag for this list of ‘goodies’? A lot. How long to pay it back? Not in our life time. Crazy

    • 758
      Pugwash says:

      Unfortunately – you are very much correct.

    • 768
      Dirty Rat says:

      Oh, and how about the illegal war. Just can’t wait to see Blair, Brown et al at the Hague.

    • 783
      Dr Feelgood says:

      Charles, you claim to have invented ‘graphics fidelity’. Yet you have produced no academic or industry citations to prove this. Where are they please?

    • 786
      Cassandra King says:

      In la la land all is wonderful, in fantasy island newlabour is performing miracles and winning the popular vote, on planet newlabour the masses are wealthy and prosperous and full employment is but a heartbeat away.

      Meanwhile back in the real world, all of newlabours expensive, ill thought out and badly planned innitiatives are falling apart and now the REAL bills for these social experiments are starting to come in and guess what? Oooooh yes, there is no fucking money left to pay for all these la la land programmes!

      The vast unsustainable spending and waste has broken the UK for a generation at least, the money has been spent, the ordinary people have been taxed into penury, the gold has been flogged off and the treasury printing presses are running off fake notes by the billion and still the newlabour money eating monster wants more!

      The simple fact these newlabour arseholes still cannot grasp is that the real money has run out and all the printing of fake bank notes will not alter this basic reality, all the wealth of an entire nation has been utterly wasted and mass unemployment lurks just around the corner, a whole fucking generation of young people now live in a socialist wasteland deprived of any chance of a decent living.

      Thanks a bunch newlabour now fuck off!

    • 802
      JMT says:

      To hand back tax credits is to admit to taking TOO MUCH TAX in the first place – Only a leftie could spin a failure as a success.

      “New Saving Gateway accounts will be available by 2010 for those on lower incomes with the government matching the money people save to help promote saving.”

      Should read

      “New Saving Gateway accounts will be available by 2010 for those on lower incomes with the government raising taxes to eye-watering levels to match what little money people have left to save to help promote saving and use an excuse to restrict any other benefits or entitlements.”

    • 827
      English Liberation Front says:

      The best help he can give is to piss off and take all the other Labour twats with him.

      Tossers.

    • 909
      groundhog day says:

      All this totally ignores the fact that all these ‘achievements’ have been accomplished with borrowed money. The country is up to its neck in debt from spending way, way beyond its means; the country has been mortgaged for a generation or more. Labour apparatchics and supporters cannot/will not understand money has to be earned. Labour has bust the country- again.
      Labour = tax,borrow,spend.boom,bust- always.
      If labour do win in 2010 then preserve your sanity and what little is left in your wallet by emigrating.
      After all the upheaval of the Thatcher years we are back to 1979. All that’s missing is the strikes, oh, no we’re not, the tube workers are going out.

    • 1132
      M. Cawdery says:

      And who is paying for it? or do you think money grows on trees as Brown apparently does the way he squanders it?

    • 1230
      Anonymous says:

      On yeah, and he’s bankrupt the fuckin’ country too.

  148. 732
    mad fred 2 para (retired) says:

    Charles,

    When they call for volunteers for the mass firing squads for the treasonous likes of you Mr Hardwidge I and many, many other ex servicemen will be chomping at the bit to secure the first volley into your ranks.

    How you can troll around here whilst your dear leader turns our country into a global laughing stock is beyond me & beyond contempt.

    You and the British left are the enemy, ene,ies of the British people, enemies of the british Crown, and obviously enemies of Parliamentary democracy and I look forward to terminating you all with extreme prejudice.

    • 749

      I hope you realise your post is incitement to violence and conspiracy against Her Majesty and is illegal. Why don’t you post your name and address if you’re so tough and we’ll see you in court.

      The Police, Army and Security Forces have protected us bravely against over 10,000 terrorist threats since 7/7 so I don’t think they’ll have any problem putting down your squalid rebellion too.

      • 761
        .243 Win says:

        …you know this

        (a) because you’ve seen the evidence yourself.

        or

        (b) you’ve been told, and everything you’re told is true, isn’t it ?

      • 775
        John Malkovich says:

        John Malkovich C/O The Oxford Union

      • 812
        The resident Londonistani says:

        Would those be the terrorist threats which are a result of NuLabour’s foreign policy, relentless mass third-world immigration and appeasement of the adherents of the religion of peace? In other words – Cause and Effect.
        Or perhaps all this terrorist malarkey is down to those nasty Plymouth Brethren.

      • 834
        English Liberation Front says:

        Oh, piss off you silly little man. Very soon you are going to realise that the very silly laws passed by your very silly government are going to make English people very very angry.

      • 1136
        M. Cawdery says:

        You clearly are a politician or an aspiring one. The verbal diarrhoea is typical of the breed – all of them

    • 753
      Herr Himmler says:

      Just think how much better life would be in Blighty under Adolf Hitler.

    • 1004
      Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

      Seconded, Fred

    • 1445
      Susie says:

      Thirded Fred. Well said Sir.

  149. 743
    CHURCHILL SAYS says:

    IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHOIS REALY PULLING THE STRINGS OF THIS GOVERNMENT I SURGEST YOU GOOGLE EUSTACE MULLINS presents THE WORLD ORDER. AND GET “ELUMINATED”

    ” WAKE UP PEOPLE” GORDON BROWN RUNS FUCK ALL

  150. 747
    Charles E Hardwidge says:

    All this is fast turning into a load of Bullshit.
    Bullshit from you Guido, and bullshit from the PLP.

    • 773
      Lizzie says:

      You are letting them get to you Charles, don’t be bullied, or we shall think you may be in Gordon’s government.

      • 781
        Charles E Hardwidge says:

        its the way it is…

        • 790
          Lizzie says:

          You could do a “Kennedy” Charles.

        • 792
          Charles E Hardwidge says:

          I have no ambition, except to impersonate myself…

        • 833
          The resident Londonistani says:

          Cheer up – It won’t happen after we get issued with compulsory ID cards.

        • 883
          Doctor Mick says:

          You could do a “Kennedy” Charles.

          You mean get sloshed and embarress himself on TV? Or drown his secretary in the river? Or get shot once by two people?

          Which Kennedy are we on about?

        • 918
          Charles E Hardwidge says:

          I fuck boys arses.

  151. 756
    The boil on the arse of UK politics says:

    You have to agree that, with my hand firmly up the arse of Gorgon, my glove puppet, I am in control of the UK.

  152. 757
    Master Baiter says:

    Body of a lion, claws of an eagle, head of an eagle and covered in yolk.

  153. 771
    The scab on the face of UK politics says:

    Ye shud’ min’ ma’ stats

    67,000 million tractors made last month alone
    67,000 million UK childun lift’a oot o’ pov’y
    67,000 million motga’s done

    an’ orl’ in ma’ wurld’ i’ rosy’

    Translation :

    I, McSnotty the Kirkaldy Twatty, am just so fucking wonderful it just isn’t true!

  154. 778
    Cream Puff says:

    Brown surrounded by is loyal, but sleazey and guilty of expenses corrupti colleagues, who is also guilty of fiddling his own expenses. Tells us that its all about everyone else. We have the sight of Ed Balls and Ben(dit) Bradshaw giving it large that they standing by Brown, despite the fact that are a pair of sleazy expense fiddling creeps.
    As a Scot, I feel sorry for the English, in that the Scots have an escape planned, called Independence. In an Independent Scotland will be seaze Labour (without the Blairite or Brownite or any other PR shite) free.
    I appreciate the Likes of Brown and the other tosser Scots MP’s will end up back in Scotland, but I think e have a nice cosy rest home planned for them called Rockall, where they can perch and bore and shit on each other all day
    Do I sound bitter towards Labour? you bet!

  155. 784

    An astute comment from a grown-up political journalist, Michael White:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2009/jun/09/gordon-brown-davidcameron

    How Gordon Brown can still save the day for Labour

    “27.45% is not exactly a triumph for David Cameron and his governing party-in-waiting.”

    White also hints that the BBC might suffer the consequences for its lack of objectivity in attacking Gordon Brown and the Government.

    • 795
      Anonymous says:

      It was pathetic… shows how out of touch Dave is.
      A glove puppet would have got as much.

    • 796
      Lizzie says:

      Are you sure Michael White is a grown up?

    • 808
      JMT says:

      Yeah – and Labour are starting from a firm foundation for their “fightback”: ROCK BOTTOM.

      On an unusual note labour have more sitting MPs than county councillors.

      Is that ringing endorsement of McJonah?

    • 815
      righty right wing (mrs) says:

      “”White also hints that the BBC might suffer the consequences for its lack of objectivity in attacking Gordon Brown and the Government.”"

      That line made me laugh the most – so retro Stalinist in its construct & conception.

      What kind of intellect can actually write that nonsense with a straight face?

      Happy days

    • 816
      English Liberation Front says:

      Oh, you’re back are you, having finished the difficult job of bolstering your crap leader.

      Tosser.

    • 817
      Brown 'n out says:

      But the true English party managed over 6%

      Ready to give you Rote Front Harman Pride boys a good biff on the nose

    • 837
      Cicero says:

      In next week’s thrilling instalment, grown-up journalist Michael White explains, mathematically, how 15.7 is actually higher than 27.45.

      • 984
        Hysteria Rectumy says:

        15.7 miles is much bigger than 27.45 feet. It’s all relative you see.

  156. 793
    Lizzie says:

    For once today, Tonybee woman said something interesting…85% of the people didn’t vote Labour in the Euro elections, perhaps she does have something between her ears after all.

    • 831
      Master Baiter says:

      Actually as it happens, you’re both thick and wrong.
      Hint number one:
      The turnout was 35%
      Hint number two:
      90% of the electorate didn’t vote for the Conservitudes.

      You may go.

      • 865
        resurgemus says:

        does Mandy leave his Rolex on when he’s operating Orville ?

      • 889
        Boris says:

        Gordon is now conferring with Ronnie Cohen, Lord Levy and Lord Sugar as to how to get the City Friends of Labour to save the Party’s finances…

      • 898
        Max says:

        Hey MB on your figures that means the tories on 10% secured nearly double the votes of your ZNL who (on this model) only got the vote of about 5% of the electorate; correct?

        Me, I’d have kept quiet and let Lizzie and Toynbee still think you got 15%.

        Can I go now?

        • 967
          Master Baiter says:

          The point is that Lizzie and Polly are thick, as is anyone who thinks the Conservitudes did well.
          90% of the electorate didn’t vote for the Conservitudes.

          You may go.

        • 1140
          Anonymous says:

          I can go? Thank goodness for that.

          Whilst you think the tories did not do well, of course they did nearly twice as well as ZNL and I still don’t think ZNL HQ will be that happy with you pointing out on here that they only got the votes of 5% of the electorate; anyway see you tomorrow then.

          PS Were you largely educated under ZNL or the tories?

        • 1227
          Jo Brand says:

          Tony Blair’s breakthrough was achieved with 30.7% of the electorate and 574840 less votes than John Major got in 1992.

  157. 800
    off to a good start says:

    so todays fightback…

    Gordon makes best speech ever – but only for those with ears to hear it, alas the public didnae hear it

    Malik exonerated in independent report – that nobody can read

    protecting the economy – 1660 jobs go at C&G in Brown ‘brokered’ Lloyds deal

    • 809
      Lizzie says:

      Yes another perfect day in Brown’s Britain.

    • 826
      Aristotle says:

      and a Tube strike in London – Labour’s not working again

      • 842
        The resident Londonistani says:

        And England playing a World Cup qualifier behind closed doors as a result of the strike.

        • 888
          off to a good start says:

          let us all gasp in wonderment at what tomorrow may bring!

        • 916
          Benny says:

          Gordon Brown and Lord Mandy has just announced

          All public events will now be held “behind closed doors” now

          They are so deeply popular that they have ordered this to avoid people crushing eachother in the scrum to come and see us live…

        • 1253

          They can’t even manage “panem et circenses”

  158. 804
    1381 says:

    Adam Boulton is now on Sky basically attacking the unmentionables and its press conference and appearing to actually support the violence against them
    Brushing it off as nothing.
    Apparently they should not be on Parliament Green, according to him.
    Outrageous. The violence is nothing!!
    I suggest you all try to listen to these comments.
    Like me I suspect you will never have one minute of time again for this particular political commenatator.
    Judging by the disgust being shown from e mails being sent to sky, there will be many who would agree that Boulton’s comments are beneath contempt.
    With media like this no wonder the country is on its knees and controlled by greedy troughing swine.

    • 821
      Steve Expat says:

      Not a good show from Mr Boulton. He should at least condemn the violence, all this attacking of the unmentionables only plays into their hands even more…

      He may well have had half a point when he questioned if the whole thing was a a publicity stunt – Why would Griffin (an MEP) decide to have a press conference on a public lawn outside the HoC? I’m sure he knew there would be protesters there, and that a confrontation was at least likely to happen in front of the assembled media….?

      • 839
        Banana Republic says:

        What a bizarre sight.

        Anti fascist demonstrators using fascist tactics to drive fascists off the streets.

        Unfortunately, as history shows, it is rarely anti-fascists who come off the winners in such situations.

        It’s a shame the protesters didn’t expend as much energy trying to prevent the BMP being elected in the first place.

      • 846
        The resident Londonistani says:

        So it’s his fault he got attacked?
        What a perverse world we now live in.

        • 871
          Steve Expat says:

          That is what Mr Boulton was incinuating, if he did not quite put it like that….

      • 1043
        Jackanory says:

        Why wouldn’t a political leader go to Whitehall to answer questions from the press? Apparently, the Russians tipped off the the lefty anti-fascists that the meeting was being held and the dirty unwashed raced there to throw eggs. Free speech should be for all – whether you like it or not!

        • 1148
          Steve Expat says:

          Free speech is absolutely for all – assaulting people with eggs and bottles is most certainly not.

          It’s a very sad day when I find myself standing up for cnuts like Griffin, but until people actually stand up and argue with him, he will get only more votes…

    • 830
      Neph says:

      Anti-unmentionables pelt unmentionables with eggs – amazing that it’s almost always the peace and democracy loving lefties that always kick off with violence first..

      Even more ironic when you compare their ideologies..

      • 850
        The resident Londonistani says:

        Somebody once said that the fascists would return disguised as anti-fascists.

      • 887
        Anonymous says:

        The unmentionables should be hung out to dry.

      • 917
        Orwell was onto something says:

        “In order to save the village we had to destroy it” – My Lai, Vietnam

        “To liberate the people of Iraq/Afghanistan/Kosovo/… and bring to them western freedoms and democracy we had to carpet boom them, incinerate them with white phosphorus, steal/destroy their cultural artefacts and poison for thousands of years their soil, water and air with depleted uranium” – puppets Blair, Bush, Brown

        “To preserve right to free speech we have to ban populist nationalist parties and crack a few heads” – the ‘British’ occupational regime

    • 874
      Duck Island Blue says:

      I suspect Boulton has just lost an argument with his News Editor over providing the B&P with the “oxygen of publicity”. Throwing eggs at facists may be bad politics but it certainly makes good TV.

      • 1029
        Anonymous says:

        Don’t remember anyone throwing eggs at Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams when they visited London (often at the personal invitation of that well known ‘anti-fascist’ Ken Livingston)

        And this was when their party had an active paramilitary wing going round murdering people. Obviously not as serious a matter as the B_N_P then!

  159. 811
    righty right wing (mrs) says:

    If anyone is going out to the shops can you bring more popcorn & shiraz – its going to be a laugh a minute until next May.

    Great days these – we have all long dreamed about the death throws of the Labour Party & their insipid, treasonous 19th century intellect & ideology but who would have thought we would get to watch it happen in slow motion for nearly 365 days?

    And they have not even got the sense to take out McMental & shoot him!

    Happy days – cheers co-conspirators.

  160. 814
    English Liberation Front says:

    See that now the crisis in the Labour party (it’s all about Labour) has abated all the mad lefty trolls are back.

    Tossers.

  161. 818
    Lizzie says:

    Bouton really wound up the boss of the “British Not Party”on Sunday night, give the man a little airtime and he was off like a shot!

  162. 819
    It wasnt me guv says:

    So if I cough up for the charge of excessive furniture you will let me off the hook for the dodgy housing claim them I can get back to the judiciary and serious troughing again. This is the life for me..

  163. 829
    Anonymous says:

    They are scum (the Buggers Nutters and Perverts). Having stood as a candidate and seen their thugs try to disrupt a count I have no sympathy for them (and I am not a leftie).

    • 841
      Lizzie says:

      Just heard on Sky that chinese who are trafficked into Britain, are set free to join the population, they are never repatriated to China.

      • 1045
        Anon says:

        This is very commom knowledge and nothing new. No one can be deported back to their country of origin unless their home country agrees to accept them and issues them with a passport (hence the long delays with overcrowded immigration detention centres). The PRC refuses to accept anyone back hence they all remain in the UK where they are easily exploited and put to criminal work as they have no recourse to public funds re social security. There is no room to keep them in any kind of detention centre so they are simply turned out onto the street having had their details recorded by the immiration authorities. Many are put to work selling counterfiet DVD’s much to the annoyance of the Federation Against Copyright Theft (FACT).

    • 857
      righty right wing (mrs) says:

      Apparently they are democratically elected scum now.

      And I blame the left.

      You gave them no platform to ridicule themselves, your friends at Pravda BBC refused to give them the opportunity to embarrass themselves let alone engage with the real reasons for their appeal to over 1 million British voters.

      The far left, Operation Blackvote, Searchlight, the Labour Party, the Unions & the BBC have all engaged in leftwing gagging tactics with the B_N_P & all you have done is make them electable.

      These are the days you made.

      By trying to dictate to the British public who to vote for, what it is acceptable to think & to say you have created a national socialist monster that will prove very difficult to stop with the current tactic of “No Platform”

      The far left, like the far right, pay lip service to true democracy & I despise you all.

      But now they are elected we should engage with them at every opportunity in debate.

      Winning the argument is all that is left for us now the left wing & its many tentacles has led us to this place, a place where the B_N_P are electable & elected.

      • 902
        Banana Republic says:

        I absolutely agree with that. The rise of the BMP is directly attributable to the Labour and Tory parties alienating their own voters through greed and arrogance. If you give them enough rope they hang themselves every time.

        The main parties and the media MUST stop shutting down the debate. One tough interview of Nick Griffin would cut their vote by 50%.

      • 915
        Max says:

        What about doing the old IRA thing and put the BMP on the telly with blacked out faces and actors doing the voice over? Being the Beeb, half the time the voices would be black or asian, that would really confuse their core vote.

    • 864
      Anonymous says:

      We all believe you. Yes we really all believe you. You are a true democrat comrade.

  164. 838
    Anonymous says:

    Sky News TV reporting:

    Gordon Brown had written resignation letter and was in the process of filming a statement on Sunday Night/ Monday Morning.

  165. 840
    Gooey Blob says:

    The increase in support would not be enough then, would it? Labour would still go down to a landslide defeat, and Johnson would have to retire from front bench politics immediately after the election.

    Maybe it’s better from Labour’s perspective for them to lose anyway. The Tories would have been better off not winning their 4th term, and I suspect the same will be true for the current lot, who are looking an absolute shambles already.

    • 855
      Lizzie says:

      Another five years of cartoons about Gordon may be too much for me!

    • 867
      Anonymous says:

      Quite right – but I still worry about Dodgy Daves economic policy. Creating jobs by getting everyone to employ an extra butler seems a bit limited (and probably too intellectual for Oik to grasp).

      • 878
        resurgemus says:

        the workers of LDV thank you for your unstinting support now that the election campaign is over

        • 922
          Benny says:

          Mandy’s friends Oleg seems to have walked away from LDV..

          More money in buying Vauxhall in the knacker’s yard I suppose ?!

        • 937
          resurgemus says:

          Industrial lunacy

          10 years ago this country had 3 van producers

          Vauxhall Luton
          Ford Southampton
          LDV Birmingham

          Vauxhall will almost certainly close in 2010/11 when the current model is replaced
          Ford have transferred nealry all production to Turkey and Southampton will be unviable at the next model change
          LDV has closed

          So in 3 years we will have gone from producing 150,000 vans per year to zero thereby giving the UK a structural trade deficit

          And people are paid to do this

        • 959
          Tin Cunliffe says:

          919.
          would you prefer leftist protectionism?

          If you want a van would you like to be forced which one you are allowed to buy? Or just “other people”?

      • 891
        Papa Lazarou says:

        allo dave. anonymous now dave? yoo can’t fool me dave. Your my wife nooowww!

      • 910
        Jeeves says:

        You rang sir!

  166. 851
    Spin Doctor says:

    Ben Bradshaw: “Gordon Brown will change his style and listen more”

    Reporter: “How did he go about winning the PLP over”

    Ben Bradshaw: “He threatened to set his attack dogs on us”

  167. 852
    Anonymous says:

    Looks like Malik has been let off the hook. The report on his behaviour will not be published. It reinforces the belief that double standards are being practised. Some get the bullet while a blind eye is turned to others. Purnell, Blairs and Hoon all gone but of their own volition not as a result of their troughing.

    • 859
      Lizzie says:

      The deal is that Malik has agreed to let constituents watch his new TV and use his chair for free.

      • 868
        anonanon says:

        No, the deal involves delivering the core vote from a certain religious minority to Labour.

        Also Lord Ahmed of Deathtexthighspeeddrivingshire threatened to bring 10,000 angry young men to Westmionster if their community honour was insulted by kicking the thieving git out of Government.

        • 886
          Anonyamongus says:

          Ah yes, we soon forget, one of the convicted criminals who is allowed to stay in the ‘Lords’

          Is he out yet and back claiming his fair share.

        • 930
          Boris says:

          And where is Baroness Uddin ?

          Is there a Police investigation or another cover up ?

    • 863
      Doctor Mick says:

      Surely it will get leaked. It must be worth a King’s ransome, nay, an MP’s expense submission to the tabloids.

    • 870
      Bardirect says:

      He’s replacing Blears at “Communities” but what’s he going to do about the MCB who she actually stood up to about their proposed libel action?

      Pay up – after all it is HIS community?

    • 906
      Boris says:

      I think Labour spin doctors have been reading Guido’s blog too much…

      We now have, ladies and gentelmen,

      THE MINISTER FOR NEW LABOUR TRIBAL AREAS…

      Hundreds of thousands more votes for the B*P…sadly

  168. 869
    Geppetto says:

    IF IT IS OK TO ATTACK GRIFFIN IS IT OK TO ATTACK BROWN AND THE OTHER TRAITORS AND THIEVES?

    • 882
      Steve Expat says:

      It’s OK to attack anyone with words, banners and placards – we call it freedom of speech

      It’s NOT OK to attack anyone by throwing eggs and bottles – we call it assault

      • 907
        A Silent Emission of Bowel Gas says:

        I want to know where ‘Unite against Fascism’ were when those violent fascists, whose religion guarantees them eternal paradise if they kill us, let off their bombs in London.

        I don’t recall seeing them. Or their eggs

        • 970
          Torchlight parade says:

          They were oppressed Muslim fascists. Quite different dontcha know.

        • 997
          Matt Chambers says:

          The B&P will be the only party that protects white people soon. Labour have given the green light now so watch the muslims run riot now under the UAF smokescreen claiming false tales of racism to further their sharia agenda. The limp dems and cons welcome being bought off with Saudi and muslim money and will continue to take it until it’s too late

          Everyone that doesn’t agree with ”mutlicultural” Islam will be a Nazi or Zionist and greenlighted for attack.

          You think i’m joking or a looney, laugh away but it will be reality in ten or more years if nothing is done about immigration and muslims have 5 or 6 kids on the taxpayer.

          Whites will end up being a sub species in their own cultural/ancestorial homes and lands within the century with no control over how their lives and destinies are controlled.

        • 999
          Seamus O'Malley says:

          Yes the country will be overrun with the Oirish begarrar.

          Da Pope’ll be in charge of everything, you mark mi words!

  169. 877
    Dame Sybil Crumb says:

    how can winning 7.5% of a vote on a tiny turnout be regarded as democratic enough to win a seat as the BNP has managed to do….the PR system for the EU is mentally corupt…no doubt invented by a Frenchman…….

  170. 885
    The resident Londonistani says:

    It would have been racist if he’d been asked to go. That’s how it works now with this bunch of 2@s.

  171. 892
    Boris says:

    The real new Car Crash is Lady Gl

  172. 893
    It's all Balls says:

    I don’t know why folk just don’t let Griffin speak; he talks such twaddle.

    • 903
      Doctor Mick says:

      Because they spout the same fascist shite that the left does. Very similar ideologies, both competing for the same mindset. The racism used to be the only thing which set them apart but like Stalin’s bolshevism, NuLabour is becoming increasingly anti-semitic.

      It’s time to start throwing eggs at red rosettes. NuLabour is a greater threat to our freedoms than the Toytown Nazis.

      • 928
        It's all Balls says:

        An egg stain can be removed in a few days by a dry cleaners.

        A vote to annihilate NuLab puts them out of Government for a generation.

        Don’t try to shut them up – every time one of those NuLab spin briefed muppets says “what the people want is for us to get on with the job” that’s another vote for electoral oblivion in the bag.

        • 989
          Agent of Chaos says:

          A lovely pipedream. It is easier than ever for people to tune out of politics. All of us on here are participants in a minority sport. Supporters of a non-league football team.

          Out there, it’s all about emotion rather than logic.

    • 1337

      Because they think the same! It’s why they think they can’t let people hear his message!

  173. 897

    Just got back into the Rebuttal Unit from St Thomas hospital A&E. Gerbil successfully removed and no lasting damage but sitting on a doughnut cushion as still a little tender. You can now all look forward to my pearls of wisdom coming thick and fast throughout this evening.

    Sitting here the future is definitely Labour. Life is good.

  174. 901
    Boris says:

    The real New Labour Car Crash is Lady Gladys Kinnock

    Unelected…..trougher in chief with hubby…

    Representing the worst type of old Labour hypocrisy…

    Too pig headed to even listen to Mandy

    And she cannot even take up her “appointment”‘ yet since she’s an MEP !!

    She will swing Wales against New Labour forever…

    Along with that good Welshman and serial resigner “Lord Hain” !!

    Talk about a rolling Car Crash…

    ROFL

    • 923
      Machynlleth says:

      I can only assume that sending Hain back to Wales was a deliberate two fingered salute to the Welsh by Labour.

      Once again, you have to ask the question, what fucking planet are they on?

  175. 908
    Anon says:

    Why are the police not investigating the Prime Mentalist’s expenses claims?

  176. 911
    dirtyden says:

    They will never let us kick them out. They know how you vote!

    • 982
      Be gone Gordon! says:

      The penny dropped in my head just as I drove away from the Polling Station and I have to admit I thought I’d been dreaming.
      Would love to know what sneaky bit of Zanuliebour legislation that was tucked away in – if anyone knows?
      The totally free and secret vote is the cornerstone of our democracy for Gods sake !!
      Getting terribly close to “man the barracades” time

  177. 912
    MI5 says:

    BTW Guido

    You speak of the Indy

    When will it have to be closed down ?

    The parent company is having to reschedule debts already…

  178. 920
    not long til mandy stabs brown in the back says:

    Anyone seen or heard from Macavity today? Do you think Mandelscum’s got him under sedation?

  179. 924
    Cassandra King says:

    What a tragedy, our nation reduced to the status of a third world dictatorship where regime approved thugs work with the regime police to attack its political enemies.

    WTF? these uaf/searchlight vermin financed by the union barons get to decide who can or cannot take part in our democracy!

    Someone is going to be killed or seriously injured and its the fault of the westminster regime that now approves of and actively helps lawless and violent gangs of thugs to terrorize law abiding people.
    The auf/searchlight gangs have now been given the green light by the regime to run riot, oh what a tragedy for our nation and our former democracy!

    • 1389
      Susie says:

      That just about sums it up Cas… watching the news just now I felt ashamed and wanted my old tolerant, polite, but most of all civilised country back.

      I’m comfortably off and live in a lovely house way out in the countryside, but it hasn’t always been that way by any means. When I was single I lived 25 years of my adult life mostly from hand to mouth (I was once even reduced to shoplifting a can of cat food so my cat could eat), but I was never so afraid for society as I am now.

      It’s an achievement to be a stupid, crude, violent, intolerant thug these days, all the while being told you are elitist or a racist or homophobic if you quietly point out how standards have dropped. It’s getting unbearable.

  180. 927
    Duck Island Blue says:

    Aren’t we all being a little too smug and complacent here? Gordon Brown may be a glove puppet but filled with Mandelson’s hand the ventriloquist will now sing a pretty tune. A ‘PM’ statement following PMQs tomorrow promises legislative action on Parliamentary expenses, statutory codes of conduct as well as electoral and constitutional reform. No doubt designed to show up braying and triumphalist Tories as a “no-action” party.

    It is essential that Cameron does not allow the advantage handed to him by the Telegraph to be spun out of his hands.

    How would you advise Cameron to respond?

    • 932
      deeznuts says:

      I would suggest that he gets all his MP’s to resign on mass..and try to get the lib dems to do the same

      or at PMQ’s…all the opposition parties to just stand up and turn their backs on labour as a sign of disgust/no confidence

      • 977
        Duck Island Blue says:

        I agree and argued the resign and restand case in the recent Milliband thread. Cleaning up the expenses scandal does not need additional statute or independent regulation. What’s needed is honesty, transparency and accountability. MPs are not accountable to the government but to their electorate. Publish the expenses, deselect the dishonest and let the electorate (not a rubber-stamping internal committee) decide on the rest. This is Cameron’s real opportunity.

        • 1014
          Agent of Chaos says:

          914’s answer seems like a meaningless gesture at this point: this is not a time for student politics.

          At moments such as this, I question my own knowledge of our constitution: would MPs who had resigned their seats be entitled to sit and vote in the Commons?

          If they could not vote, their mass resignation would offer an open goal for Labour to legislate as they wished.

          I endorse 957’s wish for MPs to be honest, transparent and accountable – and agree that the means to achieve this should be instant publication of every expense claim. No legislation, just a database and a website.

          http://www.theyworkforyou.com would have a partner: youpayforthem.com?

    • 947
      Shameless Hussy says:

      Tell Labour they are a bunch wanking fucknuts and to get the fuck out of office.

      Oh, and vote for dissolution on Wednesday.

    • 963
      not long til mandy stabs brown in the back says:

      Mentioning that he has to ask ministers for an oath of allegiance like a dictator

      Asking Gordon if he will be leader until the next election (he won’t, Mandelscum will see to that)

      Talking about the fact that the economy is going from bad to worse, and exposing the already huge hole in the budget

    • 993
      Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

      I fear that Cameron is looking almost as out of touch as his adversary.

      The fact that you think he is in need of advice shows that you, like me, believe that he hasn’t much idea of how to run an effective opposition. The Telegraph thing has been a godsend to him, but don’t let its effect make you forget the way in which GB was earlier presenting himself as saviour of the world, with not a peep from the Tories about the major, long-running scandals in our public finances.

      Even someone as useless as Nick Brown or Yvette Cooper could smash an opponent who had:-

      - sold our gold cheaply;

      - racked up horrifying levels of off-balance-sheet debt via PFI;

      - got nothing back for a doubling of NHS expenditure;

      - destroyed the pensions industry;

      …..to name but four.

      But Cameron can’t. I used to think Simon Heffer had got him wrong, but now I’m not so sure.

      At the moment, NuLab are so busy losing the election that it scarcely matters. But with the dark lord manipulating Broon, the day may come when Cameron actually has to do some effective politics.

      Don’t underrate this matter. If a week is a long time in politics, what does that make a year (to the election)?

      Where IS David Davis?

      • 1006
        Anonymous says:

        It also appears Dave personly supports the thugs that attacked Griffin.
        No Tory that.
        Where is David Davis indeed.

      • 1013
        reg511 says:

        Nigel Farage for PM, his wave of support might just be enough

    • 1000
      Moley says:

      A statutory code of Conduct for parliament is a joke. I picked that one up before.

      Who passes the Statute if its not Parliament?

      Who will enforce it?

      Will the Police have free access to Parliament to enforce it?

      Who will decide whether an offence should be prosecuted.?

      How will independence of prosecution decisions be guaranteed?

      What will the penalties be?

      Will MPs give up their rights of free speech and independence to an unelected authority under the control of the Government?

      What this will do is to put the control of Parliament in the hands of the Government.

      The correct response is;

      These are shallow, populist and ill considered plans which all sides of this house would be wise to treat with extreme caution.

      • 1038
        Duck Island Blue says:

        Whilst I agree with your points and those in 971 above, these are not arguments that will appeal to the 8% of labour voters who switched at the two elections or to those that flirted with the other minority parties. Most people commenting on this blog are probably well aware of the benefits of the bonus and expense culture. OK, we can all rise up in righteous indignation now MPs have been exposed. But a journalist horror-struck by a politician expense swindling? Shirley not!

        The dishonesty of politicians has however been a real shock to labour’s electorate. Those elected to redistribute wealth from the rich to the poor have rediverted the proceeds to their own pockets and been caught. Whatever Cameron does must appeal to this electorate.

        P.S. Agree on Davis. He should be back in the front line if not as a replacement for Cameron.

  181. 929
    What free speech says:

    Terrible egg throwing by the Rote Front on parliament green, I see that lawfully elected MEP’s don’t qualify for police protection!

    • 968
      The resident Londonistani says:

      The cops are worried about their elfin safety. The eggs might be a bit iffy.

    • 986
      traumatised gerbil says:

      Love eggs? They’ll be throwing us gerbils next.

    • 1070
      shellingout says:

      It’s all a bit selective isn’t it. I don’t suppport the BNP but I do believe in democracy, and they have been fairly elected. They should be afforded the same amount of protection given to our other MP’s.

  182. 931
    Anonymous says:

    The communists of so-called Unite Against Fascism’s rent-a-mob have shown us what life would be like if people like them were able to impose their Stalinist regime on us.

    They may be attacking some insignificant rightist clique today but, if they thought they could get away with it, they would be smashing free speech for Tories and then for anyone who they didn’t like.

    Look at the way their Labour Party controllers tried to stitch up and arrest Dominic Green. These authoritarian lefty fascists would love to ban the Tory Party. I’m sure it’s something that has crossed Brown’s mind more and more recently.

    • 941
      Banana Republic says:

      Loony BMP have two seats in EU Parliament.

      Loony Labour have about 350 seats in the UK Parliament. It’s pretty obvious who represent the greater threat at the moment.

  183. 936
    MI5 says:

    Who is New Labour smearing today ?

    Difficult to keep count of the number of smears flying around…

    All coming from no 10 Downing Street

    and the most disgraceful and shameless Government in British history

    • 961
      lolol says:

      The most disgraceful and shameless Government in British history

      Can we call that a smear ?

      • 983
        MI5 says:

        No

        It is a statement of fact

        Guido exposed it

        And many LABOUR MPs and Ministers have confirmed it

        Or perhaps you are like Dirty Tricks Brown, you do not know the difference between fact and smear ?! ?!

    • 1050
      Harassed Mum says:

      I’d like to give that bloody Broon a smear test. Then he’d really gurn.

  184. 938
    Anonymous says:

    Where were the police outside Westminster today? If this had been a protest against this vile Labour government against of Griffin the place would have been swarming with aggressive robo-cops and the protesters would have been kettled, photographed and DNA’d without question.

    The extreme left, and their Labour masters, are flexing their muscles.

    Let’s hope they don’t use them against Cameron.

    • 950
      Call me Dave says:

      We will call in the Army for protection then

      And have a real shoot out

      The Army are good after N Ireland and Irak at counter-insurgency !!

    • 952
      Cassandra King says:

      Cameron is the next target!

    • 978
      Steve Expat says:

      Is the Met Police Authority not chaired by Boris?

      I see a few complaints heading their way after today’s farce – hating them as I do, Griffin and friends should still have the right to speak in public without fear of violence directed at them by an angry mob.

      Any other politician would have been afforded that protection

    • 1018
      Anonymous says:

      The police in this country are the para-military wing of ZanuLabour.

      How many more times must this be said ?
      What is the use of complaining?
      It is much too late now. Try emigrating.

  185. 939
    Boris says:

    Did I hear Stephen Byers, Labour Mp and ex Minister, say that this Government was without principles ?

    • 944
      Shameless Hussy says:

      Yes, but you were the only one who bothered to listen unfortunately.

    • 965
      Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

      Good Lord.

      Byers recognises the existence of ‘principles’.

      Whatever next?

  186. 940
    Bert the Cert says:

    Guido have you had the day off? We know you made a few quid flogging them emails to the news of the screws but play the white man mate!

    • 945
      Anonymous says:

      He rarely visits now, leaving us all to amuse ourselves on many a day!

      • 976
        Bert the Cert says:

        Well he can bloody well stop that! I don’t read this blog during work hours and risk the order of the boot to have Guido take time off.

    • 985
      Anonyamongus says:

      Always a bit of a worry when he goes missing for the day, could be the security services force feeding him with Guiness.

  187. 942
    Sir Michael Torquemada SG says:

    Rhondda!

    Untie Mr Parsloe!

  188. 946
    Boris says:

    And Alastair Darling said the rise of the B*P was “Labour’s fault”

    in the Grauniad today…

    But Mandy and Co will now try and divert attention away from their disastrous Government by playing the anti-B*P card now

    You just watch them

  189. 948
    Anonymous says:

    Watch the smears against Blears, Purnell, Flint, Kennedy, Sheerman, and Harris increase in the weeks and months ahead.

    They have crossed the Dear Leader Gordon and must be destroyed.

    It will also serve to teach any other would-be Labour rebels a lesson.

    Meanwhile any small political party that takes precious votes away from Labour will be denied police protection and attacked by rent-a-mob wherever they dare to show their faces.

    That’s a warning to the rest of us.

    • 954
      resurgemus says:

      They should defect – it’s how you survive stalinism

      30 defetcions = vote of confidence

      • 971
        Anonymous says:

        They’re too scared to defect. Brown would have them destroyed by his tame media.

        He would probably even have some of them arrested and banged up for expense fiddling, unlike Shahid Malik who, being a loyal Brownite, gets exonerated within days and brought back into government.

        • 1077
          shellingout says:

          I wonder how many “eyes” Gordon had in the meeting room to see who clapped and who didn’t.

      • 1094
        Agent of Chaos says:

        Interesting question you raise: when there is no longer a physical Berlin Wall to cross, where do you defect to?

    • 975
      grandma B says:

      We could argue that Gordon is not a very good judge of character and ability, if he has to smear the ex members of the cabinet he actually chose. Remember these people and others such as Smith, Hoon, McNaulty, etc. were hand picked by Gordon.

      Does this lack of judgment also apply to Gordon’s running (down) of the economy and all the other things that are starting to go pear shaped?

  190. 949
    Cassandra King says:

    When we get to have a general election I am going out with a bag of eggs and I am going to attack any newlabour scumbag I come across!

    The newlabour political police would be there with their tazers and pepper spray after the first egg, the westminster bastards would get first class protection with money no object, the police now colluding with regime approved violent criminals.

    FUCK YOU NEWLABOUR!

    • 964
      Anonymous says:

      That’s right. You won’t be allowed anywhere near the Dear Leader. Gordo has already been booed once on telly, by those war veterans, and he doesn’t intend to be humiliated like that again.

      Try the rent-a-mob tactics against any Labour big-wig, like we saw against Griffin this afternoon, and you’ll be hauled down the Bailey and banged up for a long stretch before your feet can touch the ground.

      • 1007
        Steve Expat says:

        Griffin was just on Sky now, he says that there were a number of police across the road who watched and didn’t intervene as eggs, bottles and stones were thrown.

        One would think that this is plausible outside the HoC, there are always lots of police there, but is a serious allegation to make, and I’m sure he knows that.

        It’s a very sad day when I find myself standing up for Mr Griffin and his party. Freedom of speech, however, is freedom of speech.

        A million people voted for Griffin’s party last week, he should be challenged and debated on his policies, not on his mere presence.

        • 1023
          Anonymous says:

          I often wonder whether the self styled ‘anti-fascists’ see the irony in what they do

        • 1039
          Steve Expat says:

          They’ve ensured that Nick Griffin has the top slot on all the news programmes this evening – is that really what they wanted?

        • 1081
          shellingout says:

          Ditto.

        • 1091
          Anonymous says:

          Just wrote something similar on the Guardian site.
          I am really angry and scared by this.
          How did an organised bunch of thugs know where they were going to be and when they were going to be there?

        • 1102
          Anonymous says:

          Ah, but by challenging his mere presence they won’t have to challenge his policies. That’s the whole point.

          Issues such as endless mass immigration, destruction of British identity, continued EU membership, creeping Islamification of society, and a host of others can all be safely swept under the carpet if you have a policy of ‘No Platform for Nazis’.

        • 1116
          Steve Expat says:

          1077 – Until they do debate his policies though, his share of the vote will only increase.

          One in sixteen of our population that could be bothered to go and vote last week, decided to vote for his dispicable party.

  191. 958
    GeeWhizz says:

    Good to see that Sky news are on top of their facts. They currently show a webpage reporting the egg throwing incident saying that “Police say two people have been taken to hospital after protesters threw eggs at BNP leader Nick Clegg.”

    Nick Clegg? Has he changed parties? LOL

    Here’s a tiny url link to their webpage but maybe they have corrected it now. I took a screen print for posterity.
    http://tinyurl.com/mgftc4

  192. 966

    Unite Against Fascists attacks the BNP: can anyone smell what I can?

    Yes, its the Stench of Hypocrisy.

    Obviously its ok to suppress free speech, if you don’t agree with it.

  193. 969
    Bureau of Public Secrets says:

    Scum have a done about a grands damage to the fence around my office last night, and about the same smashing their way into next door, the West Midlands Police are operating a Zero Interest Policy

    • 1187
      Camp David says:

      Sounds like the Winchester police.

      My car was vandalised to the tune of £600 on the night I moved in, and at frequent intervals (along with others in the street) until I moved five months later.

      A snob-ridden hole, if ever there was one.

  194. 972

    So, we’re stuck with boring beaver Broon for another year.

    We need to make sure there’s No Rest for the Wicked.

    Examine everything ‘they’ say, object to everything they try to do, reject their lies and spin. Don’t let the fuckers get away with anything.

    Let’s harass and chivvy, poke and prod, challenge and rebut this pathetic government until its last ragged breath. Let’s focus a bit less on Guido’s tittle-tattle, and a lot more fury, rage and righteous wrath.

    Gordon, for the next year, you’re not going to get – and you don’t deserve – a moment’s peace.

    • 998
      Anonymous says:

      No we’re not. mandelson will organise a coup in november. Brown will be out before the next election.

  195. 981
    Anonymous says:

    What we saw form the UAF (unite against fascism) today is the shape of things to come. The BNP will be smashed because they’re taking too many votes from Labour.

    Once that has been achieved the next target for Brown and his smearers and boot-boys will be Cameron and co.

  196. 987
    Anonymous says:

    Brown should be booed whenever and wherever he shows his slimy face in public. Those war vets on Saturday had the right idea, let’s show the creep what we think of him.

    • 1339
      RobC says:

      Rattling good idea – no matter how thick skinned you are and Brown appears to have a rhinocerous hide – a good boo sends a very clear message.

  197. 988
    'kinell says:

    Well . thats another day and another dollar

    time to have a squint at Guido and find out what McFuckhead has been up to while I’ve been at work.

    any resignations today?

    a round robbin?

    must be something. A new platitude perhaps?

  198. 992
    Dack Blog says:

    Griffin on the telly.

    • 995
      Dack Blog says:

      They bought the eggs with taxpayer/lottery money it seems.

      • 1011
        Herr Hilter says:

        Jawohl meir herr

        The eggs were English,free range and organic.

        None but the best for our bi-sexual hero

        • 1022
          Anonymous says:

          Hello Derek Draper.
          Busy are you.
          Still working for Labour?
          Putting out smut and personal attacks.

        • 1130
          camp nicky says:

          at least fellow useless fatboy Prescott didn’t start whining about democracy because he got hit by an egg

          Nicky just likes the strength through the joy of his youth movement
          all perfectly above board

    • 1278
      jus' askin' says:

      Griffin’s a Nazi, right?

  199. 1001
    Anon says:

    If I hear anyone start talking again about what a brilliant strategist the Prime Mentalist is I might have a fit. What exactly is supposed to be so special about him. How is he any smarter than the average MP? He is not the great economist he wants us all to think he is either. Do Labour MPs have to spout all this sycophantic bilge to avoid shattering his fantasy bubble and a flying nokia?

    • 1134
      Gordon Brown's speech-therapyst says:

      JU……JU……ju…….jus…..jusss…..!!! never mind

  200. 1002
    Dick Scratcher says:

    Just been listening to R4. The ONS have published a report on how shite our public services are:

    http://www.statistics.gov.uk/articles/nojournal/TotalPublicServiceFinalv5.pdf

    The Executive Sumary reads: “The public sector in the UK employs millions of lazy, sick note, clock-watching, superannuated, institutionalised, time-serving, empire-building, incompetent jobsworth twats.”

    If only.

  201. 1005
    Matt Chambers says:

    The B&P will be the only party that protects white people soon. Labour have given the green light now so watch the muslims run riot now under the UAF smokescreen claiming false tales of racism to further their sharia agenda. The limp dems and cons welcome being bought off with Saudi and muslim money and will continue to take it until it’s too late

    Everyone that doesn’t agree with ”mutlicultural” Islam will be a Nazi or Zionist and greenlighted for attack.

    You think i’m joking or a looney, laugh away but it will be reality in ten or more years if nothing is done about immigration and muslims have 5 or 6 kids on the taxpayer.

    Whites will end up being a sub species in their own cultural/ancestorial homes and lands within the century with no control over how their lives and destinies are controlled.

    I do not want to have an arab name and my kids forced to become suicide bombers against whatever poor country hasn’t been forced to submit yet.

    • 1009
      Matt Chambers says:

      As much as you all may hate Nick Griffin his body guards wouldn’t go around doing that.

      I no the B&P have a bad history but let’s remember something here Islam x1000 is worse, Our Grandfathers fought against Nazism and Islam as Iran supported and helped the Nazis during WW2 and Communism, Not against Nazism so the Commies and Mullahs could run free reign over the UK like they have been doing for the past few decades.

      What’s the point of shouting down the Nazis who have had their asses whopped and letting Islam which is 1000 times worse in the back door, Muslims have been trying to conquer he world since day one of their religion and still not given up after 2000 years.

      As much as you may hate Nick Griffin he’s the only person willing to stand up against Islam being FORCED upon you and your children, being discriminated and bullied and outcast from society until you submit to facist arab rules. These UAF rent a mob won’t and haven’t protected you against them running amok so far so what makes you think they will in the future when the mullahs numbers increase and they start going crazy???

      I’m sorry but in the future if theirs a choice to be made between Islam the or Nick Griffin, I know which one i’m going to back. He’s not the person we deserve to defend us no but he’s the only person willing to defend us.

      I’m sorry but today opened my eyes and i’m not being forced by the left to give up any rights i have to exist as a free man in control of my own thoughts and destiny.

    • 1017
      Anonymous says:

      Demographics, Matt.
      But there are some people on this site with their heads so buried in the sand that they won’t wake up until they find themselves forcibly dressed in a suicide vest or a bin bag (burqua).
      None so blind as the bigoted do gooder, holier than thou idiot, whose moral supremecy makes them such easy pickings.

      • 1035
        Matt Chambers says:

        The thing is african people and chinese people in the UK are just standing by and letting it happen, Letting old whitey take the beating when everyone will be affected. It’s not a colour or creed thing we’re all in this together now. I think even as people call them the toytown nazis realise this.

        Everyone who doesn’t agree with Islam will be deemed a Zionist or Nazi and the Communists will let them do it without realising they will be executed first. It’s a joke look at Iran, As soon as the mullahs got into power they executed the same communists who helped them get into power!!!

        Everyone will be consumed by Islam and their will be no way out we will all become worthless chattel.

        Look at Islamic states, they are a disaster, Islam taking over isn’t even the bad part it’s the aftermath of Islamic rule with mullahs bombing and genociding their own people cause we aren’t following the Quran to the letter and word.

        At least the Sikhs and Indians know the score and will stand side by side with us against muslims who do not wish to live in a fair democratic society when the crunch comes to the crunch.

        • 1044
          Matt Chambers says:

          I may only be 19 and yes i do spell badly ‘educated under nu labour after all’ but the writing is on the wall.

          The whole of Europe didn’t just vote right parties in and people didn’t just vote Geert Wilders in because they where wrong. They can see it coming as well.

        • 1049
          1381 says:

          Islam is quite open about their intent.
          A worldwide Caliphate.
          And we are a part and they are beavering away here to make it happen.
          Try to say it and you are a racist and worse.
          They can say it, preach hatred in the mosques right down the road from you and thats OK then.
          I am sick of such double standards and so are the near million who voted for the unmentionables on Thursday.
          One law for them – islamic terrorists – who cannot be deported because they wouldn’t get a ‘fair trial’ – living in our houses on our benefits and then there is Gary McKinnon.
          No chance of a fair trial but handed to the yanks anyway.
          Double standards everywhere you look.

        • 1079
          Benny says:

          It is worth noting that ismal is at war with Russia, India, Israel, half of Africa, Europe and the US ..whatever Obama might say..

          In other the whole non-Islamic world

          And this has been going on for centuries

          The Chinese have understood

          They just shoot them…

        • 1360
          tisfedup says:

          trust me many black people see the islamic threat.

      • 1073
        Boris says:

        Indeed

        And the moral superiority of New Labour has just been illustrated by industrial scale thieveing, deceiving lying, fraud, perversion of thecourse of,justice and smearing

        Even some of their own MPs and Ministers are admitting it FFS

        Do they seriously think they can be ONE lesson to ANYBODY ??

        New Labour’s behaviour is an incitation to violence…

    • 1103
      Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

      I think that a very large majority of the population shares your concerns, Matt C.

      Please take comfort from the following:-

      - Muslims represent only about six per cent of the UK population;

      - although they are growing fast (higher fertility rates than the majority plus continuing entry) it will take them many generations even to equal the white population;

      - the history of all immigrant groups in the West is assimilation. It takes time. the first two generations don’t do it too easily, but eventually they become (as they would see it) ‘corrupted’ by western values. You see it in their kids, third generation – boys larking around like normal teenagers, girls diluting and subverting their mothers’ dress codes. By the time they are adults they’ll be as normal as the rest of us. Look at the Jewish immigrants from the 1930s and 1940s – except for a few separatists in Stamford Hill, they are completely assimilated;

      - consequently by the time they might be a threat, they won’t be. Sure, the average complexion will be a bit darker by then, but if that’s the only real effect we’ve not too much to worry about. Don’t worry about the mosques – look at all the empty churches to show where irrational belief ends up.

      Well, that’s the comfort-blanket that I hang on to, anyway!

      • 1177
        Anonymous says:

        It may be a comfort-blanket, but I think you are kidding yourself. Google and read Mark Steyn on Europe’s death bed demographics.

        We don’t have immigration and assimilation in the West. We have ethnic replacement.

      • 1254
        Old,Gifted and White says:

        Its not the numbers that’s important,it’s the impact that counts.Slip back under your blanket,feel a headache comming on?

      • 1300
        Call me Infidel says:

        Do the math RK’s plaything. This is about exponential growth it is non linear. Steyn explains it very well here.

        http://www.wgnradio.com/shows/ext720/wgnam-ext720-unabridged-mark-steyn,0,7128858.mp3file

        I would also point out that a factor Steyn has failed to consider is population movement. It would be interesting to find the figures on “europeans” who came from say Somalia originally, but who now posses a European passports that have migrated to the UK for its generous welfare entitlements.

  202. 1008
    Anon says:

    I’ll tell you what the Prime Mentalist is good at. Skewing financial statistics. Writing lots of small print that few read and which transforms the meaning of the headline text. Bullying people. Throwing things. And there you have it.

  203. 1015
    caesars wife says:

    As milliband utters “Alan Johnson is still the front runner” and Charles Hardwidge has a gerbil removed at st Thomases , and fatty foulkes reminds norman lamont not to ask questions about resignation smears , its all got off to an interesting start.

    1500 (of the 4000) job losses at C&G /loyds creep quitely onto the unemployment stats ,democratically nick griffin gets pelted with eggs , LDV despite a 4 million loan goes into recievership and we all get to see the new cabinet , alledgely sleaze free but andrew pierce says there could be more expense gate to come .

    so hows it going post failed coup
    reports of full labour smear facility now being outsourced (they leave but they dont stop working or get booted out of the party) , we see the new cabinet all smiles and smears , and the mentalist making his plans for tommorws PMQs to sqare up to confirmed election champion David Cameron , hoping to spoil his smile .Caesars wife thinks gordon will be listening , mainly to the voices of socialism past , but listening , indeed he may well be listening so hard these hard days , he will sit on his hands , making the occasional statement that , some money has been paid back or that more young people are in training , perhaps even tell us that the housing market is improving (which is odd as disposable income is falling) .

    I think he will bore us all to death with empty meaningless statements , his plotters will let him take more hits , and he will be as useless as charles hardwidge in his expenses star chamber , all talk and no trouser .
    The anti politics vote will transform into an anti labour vote and come the general election all the fake mirage money policies , will send labour onto a mission into the outer solar system and beyond to go and ruin another planet .

    no one trusts him , you cant run a goverment on premium nontruth without blowing the engine

    • 1269
      Bunker Contracts Inc. says:

      Just heard the next coup has been put out to contract,should happen on 4May 2010.A snip at only £4mil,…better late than never …eh?Now everybody’s happy!

  204. 1016
    Anonymous says:

    I’ve just watched an appalling report by Joey jones on Sky News about the attack on Griffins press conference on Parliament Green today.

    Whatever you might think about the dismal Griffin and his mate, the fact is they are elected MEPs going about their lawful business and this denial of free speech by the unelected Stalinist thugs of the UAF is no laughing matter.

    Remember when Brown got Smith to have Damien Green arrested?

    We have an undemocratic authoritarian clique run by a madman and his slimy handler Mandelson. The UAF mob attack one of Labour’s opponenets today, who will be Brown’s target tomorrow, and the day after.

    I wonder what hey’re cooking up for Daniel Hannan and Douglas Carswell?

    • 1024
      Anonymous says:

      Joey Jones is pathetic. He treated this assault by the UAF mob as if it was one big joke. I bet he wouldn’t be trying to play it down had it been an attack on Brown and his henchmen.

    • 1026
      Anonymous says:

      …..And for Guido, he’s been missing all day.

    • 1027

      Quite agree, Anon. Can anyone smell what I can?

      Yes, its The Stench of Hypocrisy.

      Obviously its ok to suppress free speech, if you don’t agree with it.

      (nb Commented on this earlier, for some reason the originals “awaiting moderation”)

    • 1033
      Anon says:

      Daniel Hannan calls himself a Conservative and then proposes, in effect, to give the masses a direct vote on other people’s private property. That’s what plebicites mean. That’s what recalling MPs who do not vote for high taxation means. Good bye private property. At best all you would have be the stewardship of your possessions, which the masses could revoke at any moment. Any secure government, YES EVEN THIS LABOUR ONE, is friendlier to private property than housing estate inhabitants would be if they were given something approaching or actually constituting a direct vote on your property. This reform movement is sheer madness, and would lead to far worse trouble than fraudulent expense claims.

      • 1051
        Mohammed says:

        Oh do shut up I for one would love a piece of Sir Fred Goodwins real estate that he dishonestly stole from the people. Bring it on.

      • 1060
        13eastie says:

        Free speech is OK, but it must not be used to incite violence or hatred.

        Griffin (simply by moving his lips) INCITED hate AND violence in this group of altruistic and respectable people to give up their valuable time today to become soldiers for the cause of democracy, produce some spontaneous placards, and sacrifice their beloved children’s tea-time eggs (and rocks, and bottles) for the cause of freedom.

        Eggs and soldiers are good.

        Therefore, if what UAF did was wrong, it was still the ВИР’s fault. That should be obvious.

        The UAF must be allowed to use their democratic right to freedom of expression to put an end to free speech. To deny this would be hypocrisy.

        • 1168
          Steve Expat says:

          No, Griffin and his ilk are not inciting violence – they are not telling people that violence is good and they should be violent. Racial hatred is more objective though.

          Griffin’s party are undoubtedly a bunch of cnuts but it’s not right to throw missiles at people for what they are saying, especially so when 950,000 people voted for them last week.

          Until we debate with the fuckers and put them down in a democratic way, they will continue to thrive.

        • 1256
          thick as thieves says:

          I heard nick griffin attempting to justify his immigration policy.
          he argued that only those of anglo saxon heritage are entitled to indigenous status.
          what a fucking load of bollocks.
          the indigenous population were celts, farmers who had been farming the land for six thousand years.
          a long, long time before any johnny come lately anglo saxons turned up on the scene.
          the basis of the british nazi parties policy is historically as well as morally and politically flawed.
          we did not defeat hitler’s fascism to then vote fascists into parliament.
          but it seems that is exactly what has happened.
          everything gordon brown touches turns to shit.
          what a fucking JONAH! what a fucking c’unt.

        • 1276
          Spotlight bulb changer says:

          Now Nick and his boys are in the spotlight it will be quite tricky too remove them.I mean look how Brown and Mandy can’t resist being headlines.

        • 1286
          jus' askin' says:

          Nick and his boys?
          I didn’t know Nick Griffin was a paedophile. And he is a Nazi as well?
          Hold on, let me get this straight. Are you telling me that Nick Griffin, the leader of the British National Party is a paedophile and a Nazi?

        • 1326
          RobC says:

          Throwing eggs at someone because their view differs from yours is not a democratic freedom of expression its bloody facsist.
          Regardless of his views which I would add I do not share – he was elected and you were not you f**king hypocrite.

    • 1084
      shellingout says:

      If this was a member of the government, we’d never hear the end of it. They obviously support this behaviour, otherwise they would be on TV complaining about it.

      • 1179
        P1 says:

        Mainstream politician J Prescott would of course have simply punched the egg-thrower back, and got away with it (“John being John”). There are serious double-standards here, and they need to be addressed before we descend into complete anarchy.

        Westminster is policed by thh square inch – so how come a large group of egg-throwers got to do their business against two elected politicians in braod daylight in front of a load of cameras? They might be as objectionable and disreputable as Messrs Adams and McGuiness, but one has to concede that they did what was asked, they got themsleves elected.

        A terrible day – the voters will sense the establishment’s manouvering to protect its own.

      • 1271
        Anonymous says:

        1059. The government support these attacks and fund them. Cameron also supports the UAF.

    • 1196
      Dylan says:

      Where were the coppers enforcing the SOCPA rules re. demonstrations in Parliament Sq?

      Couldn’t plod have just waded in and beaten both groups of Hoons up?

  205. 1020
    Anonymous says:

    It’s all part of the dhimmification of Great Britain. I’m a jew. I wonder if there’s any future for me in this country with the rise of the islamic caliphate supported by this awful Labour government.

    • 1031
      Anonymous says:

      You might be alright, according to the Mail on Sunday, Dave is a jew, so rather than leaving it to Griffin, perhaps he can make a stand against the onward march towards the Islamic States of Britain.

    • 1086
      Anonymous says:

      I’m white and English. I don’t stand an earthly in the UK, which is why I’m getting out asap.

    • 1110
      Agent of Chaos says:

      If you flee, they have won.

  206. 1025
    The resident Londonistani says:

    The attack on the British Nat ional Party press conference outside Westminster is an assault on democracy itself.

    Not since the end of Communism has Europe seen such an event. The B N P’s Nick Griffin and Andrew Brons – legitimate, peaceful and democratically elected politicians, representing around one million British voters – have been prevented from speaking to the media by a gang of thugs who are openly linked to Stalinist-era Communist Party front organisations and the Labour, Conservative and Liberal-Democrat parties.

    British democracy is under attack. If violent thugs can prevent the B N P from speaking, who will be next?

    No decent person can allow this dramatic turn of events to pass without protest. Every legal political party – no matter what their opinion – has the right to campaign and hold a press conference without fear of attack from extremist left wing fringe groups funded and supported by the Labour Party, Conservatives, Lib-Dems and Trade Unions.

    Everyone who is opposed to this erosion of our democracy is encouraged to send a message of support to Mr Griffin and Mr Brons by using the form below.

    Register your protest at the violence perpetrated by the UAF, who are nothing but the stormtroopers of the ruling Labour, Tory and Lib-Dem elite.

    http://tinyurl.com/mzvq9o

    First they came for …

  207. 1028
    terrace bar frequenter says:

    come come 981, you never really believed the police were there to protect the general public did you?
    that only happens on the bill!
    funny they never do anybody for speeding, as that is what the cops seem to be manically interested in these days rather than fighting crime and defending the rights of democratically elected politicians like damian green and nick griffin.

    • 1310
      Rumpole says:

      “funny they never do anybody for speeding,” Particularly if they are a Labour Minister done for going 93 Miles Per Hour and she says that she is going about PArliamentary business and trherefore cannot be subject to vexatious arrest something her colleague Jacqui Smith did not know about when sending in Plod to get Damian Green.

  208. 1032
    Katie Price says:

    I want to have Nick Griffin’s babies,so there !

  209. 1034
    Anonymous says:

    The Brown shirts have started sanctioning violence against political opponents.

    Hope they haven’t started on the bloggers too!

  210. 1036
    Sunonmars says:

    Lloyds sparks outrage as bailed out bank axes 1,400 jobs by closing all 164 branches of Cheltenham & Gloucester

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1191739/Lloyds-axes-1-400-jobs-closes-164-branches-Cheltenham–Gloucester.html

    Now we know where lloyds got the money to be able to hand back to Bottler Brown yesterday.

    • 1121
      dirtyden says:

      Just heard it on the radio. You can bet your bottom dollar if this company was called “Aberdeen & Inverness” or “Newcastle & Middlesbrough” our fcukwit socialist government would piling in the billions to ’save the country’ from a ‘catastrophic systemic risk’.

      Assholes.

  211. 1037
    Ever Vigilant says:

    Tony Wright -another disappointment ,I used to think that he was an honest man. He has just stated that Gordonis is head and shoulders better than any other British politician in terms of rescuing us from the dire situation .Wright cannot possibly believe that ,so what does he hope to achieve ? H e must be another slimy creature well prepared to put his own interest before the national interest .What an unbelievable ,disgusting ,disgrace these Labour politicians are.

    • 1047
      Sunonmars says:

      Whats new with the spineless bastards, i hope the Telegraph runs the next set of MP’s expenses because they are definitely holding stuff back, we aint seen the end of this, i think they have a sackful more to get, Watch they get stuck into the new cabinet, thats the impression i got from the Telegraph today on TV.

      • 1063
        Boris says:

        And wait until someone gets into the Kinnock family’s expenses in Brussels

        Going on for YEARS…

        And tax-free pensions (how much ?) etc

        Chilrden employed by quangos etc etc

        They are an outrage by themselves

        And they call themselves Labour?

        They are the new Feudal European Aristocracy

        • 1087
          Sunonmars says:

          oh i fucking hope so, If the kinnocks want to stick their heads above the parapit, I for one want to see them cut off brutally. Thieving hoons.

        • 1097
          M. Cawdery says:

          Read Marta Andreasen’s book on the EU. Not only did they enjoy and benefit from the Gravy Train but the job he was supposed to do, namely sort out the Gross financial inefficiencies of the Commission, was never done. Years after he left the Court of Auditors have still not passed the Accounts. He also displayed a vicious an vindictive attitude to the Chief Accountant trying to do her job. If a boss in the UK tried to do that to a Union member there would be a major strike. How I loathe the man and his incompetence

        • 1350

          M. Cawdery
          Marta Andreasen is now UKIP MEP for SE England.

          They struck her down and now she is more powerful than they can possibly imagine.

      • 1308
        Gravytrain Driver says:

        Refreshing…no its more than that, its wonderful, but I still do not buy the D.T…..er…well not yet anyway!

    • 1117
      .243 Win says:

      Gotta protect his boy Ben Wright’s position as political correspondent with Pravda…

  212. 1046
    adge says:

    the eggs should be thrown at G Brown its his fault they got in, but what gets me is they are reporting there were plenty of police across the road that just stood there and watched, great country we live in, not.

  213. 1052
    Moley says:

    I cannot think of any single measure which could be calculated to better act as a recruiting aid for the B —- than a failure to provide the standard police protection for politicians, and the tacit support of violent protest whenever an elected member of that party appears in public.

    These violent antifascist demonstrations have to be stamped out immediately.

    I detest all labour politicians but I accept that I am constrained by the law not to indulge in violent protests.

    Antifascists are bound by the same law, and if they aren’t then no-one else should be either.

    • 1090
      Anonymous says:

      The thing is, mate, you need proof.

    • 1141
      camp nicky says:

      at least fellow useless fatboy Prescott didn’t start crying about the death of democracy when he got hit by an egg

      bit embarrassing to be shown up as a little nanziboy by that wobbling tub of lard

    • 1415
      tisfedup says:

      hear hear, if they are not restrained, then i believe the gloves are off, especially where labour is concerned.

  214. 1054
    reg511 says:

    Radio 4 Parody of Gordo and Manhandlebum tremendous

  215. 1055
    Sunonmars says:

    and if anyone was wondering about Malik, guess you wonder why Labour don’t want you to see this especially not the labour voters.

    • 1066
      I would like to see a church of England in Riyadh says:

      All that and a scammer as well! Scary when he has the unquestioned protection of the ZaNu’s just so they can get the muslim vote!

      • 1078
        Sunonmars says:

        If I was the Tories, I’d have a nice set of wanted posters for the GE for Labour. They resigned and then got a new job right back in the cabinet

        Wanted :

        Brown : Sold the economy down the drain, paid his brother with illicit funds, claimed for a 2nd home not far from the other.
        Malik for thieving hoonism and rent fraud.
        Hain for dodgy donations and syphoning.
        Mandelson : escaped 3 times and returned to the scene of the crime.
        Darling : moved house 4 times by taking the money and running from the taxpayer.

        I mean The tories should do what America did with Iraq, a 52 deck of most wanted cards.

        Can we suggest this.

    • 1069
      Talwin says:

      Hmmmm.

    • 1071
      Anonymous says:

      That loud sound was my jaw hitting the floor.

    • 1072
      Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

      Marvellous, innit, how a person from a group that constitutes six per cent (yes, children, that’s about one in 18) of the population can go in for such triumphalism.

      I know he’s got postal voting (and all the cultural imperatives that go with it) on his side; I know that immigrants have higher fertility-rates than the majority population; I know that NuLab will always promote persons of a dusky persuasion above whites, but if he really believes this self-deluding tosh I really have to pity him.

      Pathetic little man.

      (But what about the fools who applauded? Even worse.)

    • 1075
      Steve Expat says:

      He says “Insh’Allah” – “If God is Willing” in Arabic, 3 times in that video, in case anyone was wondering…

    • 1080
      Taking it easy... says:

      This chap might calm down a little if only he would schedule a bit of “me time”.

      Take a nice stroll, have a pint of Guinness and full English at the local, followed by a nice, relaxing afternoon in the bookies.

      • 1098
        Steve Expat says:

        You think he’s that interested in Alcohol or Bacon?

        • 1176
          Taking it easy... says:

          I think if he ceased his cynical troughing, got his lazy arse out of his (i.e. my) ‘vibrating chair’, stopped watching Al Jazeera on his (i.e. my) plasma TV for a few minutes, and took some time to try and make his own mind up about things his religion has arbitrarily forbidden him from enjoying, he might stop feeling so persecuted and rapidly become markedly less chippy.

          I also think it hardly reflects well on Islam if Brown has to reappoint this disgraceful shit, in order to meet his ministerial quota requirements.

    • 1274
      Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

      I object totally what is said by him in this video, simply because he is talking afront to our Queen and those who swear alliegence to her and her subjects. Nothing more than that. If he wants to rave in a republic then fine but not within a Monarchy.

  216. 1057
    Blundering Blunkett says:

    This is all very serious, the political situation has never been in such a mess……..anyone seen any braille fanny anywhere!

  217. 1058
    Dr Feelgood says:

    There’s been a right load of toss on here today what with the troll Hardwidge and his catamite Master Baiter.

    So, for an entertaining, pretty impartial and informative presentation of Brown’s responsibilty for the collapse of the UK economy and the collapse of his prime ministership, last night’s C4 Dispatches is worth watching:
    Crash Gordon
    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/catch-up#2920536

    The public spending taps were turned on and grew from ~40% to ~48% of GDP. No return to boom and bust… but Brown was not in control and only the beneficiary of luck…

  218. 1061
    Telly Addict says:

    Carry On Up The Cabinet:

    Latest Cast List: Suggestions welcome.

    Prime Mincer: Frankie Howerd
    Lord Fondlebum: Kenneth Williams
    Mr. Balls: Bernard Bresslaw
    Mr. Darling: Mr. Darling
    Sir Alan Sugar: Sid James
    Alan Johnson: Jim Dale
    Hattie Harman: Hattie Jacques
    Lady Windbag: Joan Sims
    Mr. Miniblair: Charles Hawtrey

  219. 1062
    Jeeves says:

    Tea time sir! The usual Guiness?

  220. 1064
    Harvey Tuckett says:

    The UAF act just like the fascists they claim they are trying to stop.

    Special message to Peter Hain – Fuck off you orange faced twat – A friend!!!

  221. 1065
    Charles Hardwidge's Warden says:

    Now, now Charles, you know you’re only allowed out between 8 – 9pm on weekdays.

    Let us know who is typing your blogs as we know you can’t do it with the straight jacket and mask on?

    Get back into the padded cell in the next 30 minutes and we’ll let you have your blow up “Gordon” doll back for another week.

  222. 1067
    Sunonmars says:

    I have no idea what Labour is going to do, its core voters are so pissed off about everything especially immigration and the like as seen with the euro elections that how can they possibly convince those voters back to them, I’d be amazed.

  223. 1081
    Anonymous says:

    So Unite have shown us who the true jack-booted fascists are, assaulting press conferences by elected politicians because they disagree with their politics.

    That, ladies and gentlemen, is fascism.

    What a disgraceful way to counter the BNP – any member of Unite should be ashamed of themselves for resorting to fascist undemocratic means of arguing against the BNP’s policies.

  224. 1089
    Anon says:

    Demanding wealth redistribution should be illegal.

  225. 1093
    Anon says:

    The left constantly incite hatred against the “rich”.

    • 1109
      Dr Nuts says:

      How about this for policies?

      Apartheid – where one group get to drink inside the pub, the other have to sit outside in the rain – B*P? – nope Nu Labour anti-smoking campaign!

      Hatred – where one section of the community is deliberately incited to hate another group based on their visible difference – B*P? – nope Nu Labour anti-fattie campaign.

      Hows that for hate based politics?

  226. 1095
    Anonymous says:

    BROWN IS A LIAR AND A BULLY. HIS CABINET IS FULL OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER HAD A REAL JOB, CONTENT TO LIVE OFF THE TAXPAYER.

    IT’S A SHAME THAT JANE KENNEDY HAS TO FIGHT THE MILITANT TENDENCY ALL OVER AGAIN. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE MADE IT SO FAR INTO POWER AS DOWNING STREET.

    THAT’S LABOUR FOR YOU!

  227. 1096
    Anon says:

    Direct democracy would be the equivalent of communism so no true conservative would countenance any approach to it.

    • 1105
      Anon says:

      Even if the majority chose to let you keep your property, effectively they would still be the ultimately owners, and you would only have the stewardship of it on a license that could at any point be revoked. Many could not tolerate such a diminution of their status as property owners and would leave the country. Margaret Thatcher believed in the sovereignty of parliamentDo you think she could have driven through her essential reforms if Tory MPs in marginal constituencies would have been subject to recall at any moment? No wonder the left, outside parliament at any rate, would love the idea of recall so much, or of direct referenda in which they could severely curtail even those property rights that survive under nokiaGBh, if not abolish them completely.

  228. 1099
    Pastor Martin Niemöller says:

    Sign the petition against State-sponsored violence: http://tinyurl.com/mzvq9o

    First they came for …

  229. 1107
    Anon says:

    Those living in council estates should not be allowed to vote. They just vote for theft.

    • 1112
      Anon says:

      Demanding wealth redistribution and inciting hatred of the “rich” should be illegal.

  230. 1107
    Anonymous says:

    Who the hell is Weyman Bennett of the UAF to say who should be denied free speech in this country?

    This is the slippery slope to an authoritarian state and thugs like Bennett are the useful idiots of Brown and his Stalinist clique.

    • 1114
      Anon says:

      Advocating wealth redistribution and inciting hatred of the “rich” should be illegal.

    • 1139
      Dr Nuts says:

      The self-appointed – funnily enough – I didn’t see him stand for election, while I’m unamused by the [I'm constantly being censored for mentioning them] party – I’m even less impressed by the unmandated – Brown and UAF!

      • 1143
        Anon says:

        I agree with limiting free speech. Start with shutting up the commietrash and make Daniel Hannan tone it down too.

      • 1145
        Anon says:

        Inciting hatred of the “rich” is disgraceful.

        • 1155
          Anon says:

          Not that Daniel Hannan incites hatred against anyone, but his desire to erode parliamentary sovereignty would if achieved be the back door to communism. And communism is of course the hatred of the wealthy.

          Next time a left winger holds a meeting in your area, organise a conservative protest against it.

  231. 1118
    Gordon Glove Puppet says:

    I’ll be getting on with the job as soon as Lord Mandleson shoves his hand up me arsehole.

  232. 1119
    Dack Blog says:

    Just watching the Shell/Nigerian story on C4. Capitalism, socialism, whatever… it’s all about power, corruption, greed. I don’t see it makes much difference who leads – once they have power, corruption and greed are inevitable.

  233. 1122
    Anon says:

    Popular plebicites entirely destroy the concept of private property. Your property can hardly be yours if the majority can at any moment steal it. It’s bad enough letting the plebs vote in elections, with the resut of periodic labour governments. Giving them a direct vote on your property or letting them recall MPs who do not support high enough taxation is the same thing as communism.

  234. 1126
    The Master says:

    Memo to Telegraph: next phase of the x’s please, up the ante.

    • 1174
      Trough Mixture says:

      Any chance of gutting the Testicles like Mackerel in a Swdish knife fight this time please?

  235. 1131
    Labourlist: Brown should be "kicked out violently" says:

    “The Prime Minister is in legacy mode: he is destroying 100 years of history for his own ego

    Every issue and event will be seen through the prism of Brown’s weak position, opening up barely sealed wounds. The only way to stop the debate about the leadership is to push the red button.

    If he does not do “the honourable thing” then he will have to be kicked out violently, lest the public do the same to the entire party.”

    http://www.labourlist.org/brown-legacy-mode-destorying-100-years-history-own-ego

    • 1135
      Loyalist says:

      Blimey, a tad off message for Labourlist innit?

      • 1173
        D L George says:

        It is, unfortunately the first coment below it tries to say Frank Field is a right winger, WTF?

        Main piece is spot on though.

  236. 1138
    Anon says:

    Private property is most secure in a system that only lets multimillionaires vote. It remains semi secure in a parliamentary system, in which a wealthy elite still governs. If Daniel Hannan succeeds in eroding parliamentary sovereignty, through recall and referenda, you will no longer have private property at all, but at best an ever revocable kind of stewardship. That would equate to communism, and the spectacle of a conservative demanding it is infuriating. Being an elite itself, even a Labour dominated parliament is more sympathetic to private property than the mass of labour voters are

  237. 1144
    1381 says:

    Well I have just watched some utter idiot given free rein to appear on Channel Four news and make a string of ridiculous unsubstantiated claims against the unmentionables and allowed to do it without interruption or dispute. The Unmentionables of course couldn’t rebut anything.
    They were accused of murder and mayhem and bloodletting against trade unions, blacks and Asians and this prat organized the attack on them today – as a sort of civic duty.
    And they let him ramble on saying it.
    Our media are as corrupt and scary as the politicians.
    A marriage made in hell and for the destruction of our democracy and freedom.

    • 1154
      Anonymous says:

      John Snow is a Labour shill. He thinks Brown is the saviour.

    • 1158
      resurgemus says:

      The idiot is Martin Smith of the SWP ( Weymann Bennett also a member ).

      Both are linked to UAF which apparently a lot of our MPs from all parties have endorsed.

      Smith says Griffin and co should have no access to the air waves because they attack people. Wonder if he thought the same when Sinn fein were off the air ?

      Also saw guy with house of commons pass on the TV clip – why’s he security cleared ?

      Standard Redfascism – no-one has the right to speak unless we say so – Griffin’s vote has just gone up he should thank them.

    • 1177
      chronic says:

      Welcome to the end of democracy, the bee emm pee got voted in so get the right to speak wether we like or not, the more idiots like that prick get air time the stronger they become.Is there no libel law any more, and its strange how tv interviewers have found some balls when confronted with this party,if they had this courage with the main stream parties we would not be in this mess.RIP Democracy thanks to Liebour.

    • 1195
      Anonymous says:

      The Facist Left are alive and well. The red Terror awaits !

  238. 1146
    Anonymous says:

    Gordon’s gonna stuff the Tories now and as I said earlier, he is going to introduce PR for Westminster!

  239. 1147
    Geppetto says:

    on c4 news they said the bnp phoned the press at short notice……

    so how was it that a load of protesters were there?

    more like north korea every day!!!!

  240. 1151
    Steve Expat says:

    BREAKING NEWS on the Beeb

    Prime Minister Gordon Brown will announce plans for a new Westminster voting system, the BBC understands.

    He will unveil an alternative vote system to choose MPs to replace the first past the post method, BBC political editor Nick Robinson said.

    Mr Brown will make a statement to MPs on Wednesday about his reform plans in the wake of the expenses scandal.

    One minister told the BBC there was a “strong feeling” in cabinet that there should be a “bold programme of reform”.

    He will also say ministers will push ahead with a bill to make the House of Lords largely or fully elected.

    One minister told the BBC: “There is a strong feeling in the Cabinet that we should have a bold programme of reform. We don’t want to end the next year with a whimper.”

    In his statement, Mr Brown will say there would have to be a referendum before any change could be made to the voting system.

    Earlier, he chaired a meeting of the new Democratic Renewal Council – a group of ministers – which agreed to consider moving towards the so-called alternative vote or AV system in which voters could list their preferences rather than simply voting for one candidate as now.

    • 1180
      Sunonmars says:

      So thats a lot of BNP MP’s next year then.

    • 1189
      Ratsniffer says:

      “Bold programme of reform” = labourspeak for scorched earth policy.

    • 1201
      13eastie says:

      FFS

      Guido, this needs a new thread, please.

    • 1214
      1381 says:

      I strongly suspect that the voting system they want is that which Chris Huhne was hinting at.
      Its called the transferable vote.
      You list the parties you want in order.
      The candidate who gets the lowest votes then has the second preferances distributed among the others and so on until one candidate gets over 50%.
      What it does is to allow you to vote for the candidate YOU want but to vote against a candidate ANOTHER may want by allocating their vote to the bottom.
      It is a legal means to allow the major parties to gang up and stop minor parties from invading their space.
      With the minor parties now threatening the establishment they will move quickly to literally disenfranchise them – particularly the unmentionables.
      This is in use in Australia and was used by the Australian establishment to stop Pauline Hansen who eventually was put in prison on what was little more than a trumped up charge.
      It is a complete opposite to the British idea of one man, one vote.
      No doubt those who oppose the unmentionables will jump at the chance to stop them – short sighted and with little thought that with the fragile state of our democracy it is handing unchallenged power and patronage to the establishment without any hope in future of a necessary challenge if push comes to shove.
      It is so unfair and so manipulative that it really is a recipe for violence and revolution when poele realize that will be the only way possible to break what has become elective dictatorship.

    • 1216
      Anonymous says:

      I strongly suspect that the voting system they want is that which Chris Huhne was hinting at.
      Its called the transferable vote.
      You list the parties you want in order.
      The candidate who gets the lowest votes then has the second preferances distributed among the others and so on until one candidate gets over 50%.
      What it does is to allow you to vote for the candidate YOU want but to vote against a candidate ANOTHER may want by allocating their vote to the bottom.
      It is a legal means to allow the major parties to gang up and stop minor parties from invading their space.
      With the minor parties now threatening the establishment they will move quickly to literally disenfranchise them – particularly the unmentionables.
      This is in use in Australia and was used by the Australian establishment to stop Pauline Hansen who eventually was put in prison on what was little more than a trumped up charge.
      It is a complete opposite to the british idea of one man, one vote.
      No doubt those who oppose the unmentionables will jump at the chance to stop them – short sighted and with little thought that with the fragile state of our democracy it is handing unchallenged power and patronage to the establishment without any hope in future of a necessary challenge if push comes to shove.
      It is so unfair and so manipulative that it really is a recipe for violence and revolution when poele realize that will be the only way possible to break what has become elective dictatorship.

    • 1228
      Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

      As soon as you mentioned ‘have to be a referendum’ – I knew it must be bullshit.

    • 1262
      I hate one-eyed Scottish idiots. says:

      >>Mr Brown will say there would have to be a referendum before any change could be made to the voting system.<<

      So there'll obviously be no referendum then?

    • 1334
      Scorched Earth says:

      And so it begins..

      Elected House of Lords is up now too.

      Don’t say you weren’t warned.

  241. 1161
    You've 'ad yer chance now Feck Off! says:

    BBC reporting that “Prime Minister Gordon Brown is to announce plans in Parliament for a new voting system”

    “Earlier, he chaired a meeting of the new Democratic Renewal Council – a group of ministers – which agreed to consider moving towards the so-called alternative vote or AV system in which voters could list their preferences rather than simply voting for one candidate as now.”

    So, knowing they are heading for decimation next year he’s going to try and force a pseudo PR on us to ensure they get some seats!

    Unbelievable

    • 1162
      You've 'ad yer chance now Feck Off! says:

      Sorry forgot the link:

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8092235.stm

    • 1164

      Where’s Carlos the Jackal when you need him?

      • 1202
        Susie says:

        The only way this Fucker can retain power.

        NO WAY!

        If he does this, I’d rather put BNP as the last on the list of preferred candidates rather than Labour and I suspect most others will do the same. So we’d end up with the BNP in fucking parliament as well as Europe thanks to Brown.

        HE DOES NOT HAVE THE MANDATE — WHERE WAS THIS IN THE MANIFESTO?

      • 1236
        Strictly Confidential says:

        In jail.

    • 1183
      Sunonmars says:

      so a lot of B£P mps then next year.

      So A referendum, well are we getting a Euro referendum at the same time. If not, Fuck off.

    • 1188
      Anonymous says:

      Lets be realistic Labour are NOT heading for decimation at the next General election so rid yourself of that idea.

      Decimation is losing ONLY one in ten seats and this shower of corrupt , despots are gonna loose A HELL OF A LOT MORE than that !

      The only way they can avoid this is to move the goalposts by introducing PR and allowing children the vote.

      Thats what this maniac dictator with his non elected shower of halfwits intends under the guise of Constitutional change.

      • 1204
        Anon says:

        Well I did try to warn you all against the folly of constitutional reform. Perhaps babies will be allowed a vote on the basis of whether they prefer a blue, yellow or red rattle.

    • 1199
      Anon says:

      Well now he’s about to lose his own majority in any case, he might as well try to stop the Tories from getting one. Similarly, now that his own government is virtually finished anyway, he no longer needs to fear a revived House of Lords.

    • 1211
      VotR says:

      It’s a sneaky way of keeping some power.

      I’d be surprised if the people are allowed a referendum on the matter to say no, knowing Gordon’s courage in taking a risk, i.e. none at all.

      • 1239
        13eastie says:

        Gordon listens to the people at last!

        The People said:

        “The economy is shot to bits, your Cabinet is full of crooks. You are a despicable shit. Fuck off. (We also think less of your party than ever before, by the way).”

        What Gordon Brown-Eye (who is evidently deaf as well as blind) Heard:

        “In spite of everything else that needs fixing, the results of the latest election show decisively a desire most among the People for a new electoral system — one that will not allow the Tory party to stop us from ending boom and bust.”

        (What Brown Meant)

        “Ahm a fehlun uh wee bi’ peely-wally. Tha ‘lections mekkin’ me shi’ ma pahnts.”

    • 1317
      Zed says:

      Almost 13 years and now of all times he want to change the voting system.
      WTF ?

    • 1351
      Dr Feelgood says:

      How the hell can you have a ‘Democratic Renewal Council’ that:

      - Contains only ministers from the governing party
      - Those ministers are known to have been bullied into submission and/or obliged to pledge loyalty to the Leader
      - Where said governing party had 15.7% of the vote in the Euro election (~5% of the population)
      - Where the governing party secured only 23% of the county council vote
      - Where there was no mandate for such an electoral change in its General Election manifesto
      - Where the party leader was not elected by either the public or his party in any vote

      For a failed government that clearly has no support, to try and introduce this in its last 12 months is profoundly undemocratic.

      I hope this gets blocked in the House of Lords, and that Brown’s track record on failing to make any of his bizarre initiatives bear any fruit continues.

      • 1443
        Telly Addict says:

        Well said.

        Some of Broon`s madder initiatives recently include:

        The plastic bag embargo
        Loft Lagging
        Car scrapping
        Daily allowances for MPs
        Aforesaid Democratic Renewal

        Etc……….

        Contributions welcome.

  242. 1163
    That's Absolutely Totally Brilliant Damian says:

    Fuck me Guido I now do more shits per day than you post. Step it up a bit

  243. 1169
    Heads on poles says:

    Good that Parliament is the first to hear these things and that fat oik Gorbels will – as ever – do nothing about it.

    Brown – shut up and go now.

  244. 1170
    labourwipeout ( on track for 2010) says:

    So it seems that the the apprentice final contained faked scenes. Actually Im not surprised its tv land afterall , and theres no business like showbusiness as they say. Problem is Gordon cant tell the difference between a tv show and reality . Why else would he elevate someone on the basis of a sucessfull TV show to the House of Lords.
    But given nu Labours penchant for fakery it does make sense.

    • 1231
      Hard Graft says:

      >Why else would he elevate someone …. to the House of Lords.

      Could it have something to do with the £1 million in donations from Sugar to Labour this year?

    • 1235
      The Matrix says:

      The apprentice wasnt the only show in town that was faked on Sunday. That Love fest for Gordon in West Ham was as fake as f***, all that insincere stuff about dead babies in Africa to try and endear him to the voters and make him appear human was pathetic He probably made that story up and has featured it in his “presentations” since he was a student LIAR that he is. You know theres not much we can do for Africa when we are bankrupt ourselves you halfwit !!!!

      BROWN= FAKE
      MANDLESON=FAKE
      HARMAN=FAKE
      KINNOCH=FAKE
      BLAIR-FAKE
      NU LABOUR = FAKE

  245. 1175
    Dack Blog says:

    Apologies if this has been posted somewhere already, but made me laugh anyway.
    http://blogs.news.sky.com/boultonandco/Post:e0a0d752-7ced-40bd-9d58-8d1718d7dae8

  246. 1194
    Bob Boothby RIP says:

    Not like my day

  247. 1197
    Max says:

    In the absence of Guido (hopefully on a case; wine or otherwise) and nothing of interest from Westminster other than McDoom is finally going to the country (sadly only with a referendum to get in place a system of PR so that you can all enjoy the benefits of ZaNuLab for the next 1000 years; oh yes he is HERE) I thought we could have some Daily Telegraph-type fun with, say, Glenys Kinnock’s MEP expenses, so here goes:

    Exhibit A: The EU MEP expenses Transparency Statement and

    Exhibit B: The Glenys Elizabeth Kinnock Expenses Audit

    Yep, I know it’s not very exciting is it? Apparently it is All Within The Rules so there you go; any ideas anyone?

  248. 1205
    IRRITABLE BROWN SYNDROME says:

    Now I’m starting to worry:

    from BBC News website:
    “Prime Minister Gordon Brown will announce plans for a new Westminster voting system, the BBC understands.

    He will unveil an alternative vote system to choose MPs to replace the first past the post method, BBC political editor Nick Robinson said”

    I predict a riot

    • 1252
      Steve Expat says:

      The scandal with MEP expenses is that there will be no scandal – there are no receipts or guidelines.
      An MEP is paid some 460,000 Euros a year in cash, which consists of their salary (91,000EU, taxed back to the EU at the special “EU workers’ rate” of 15%), allowances, expenses, pensions etc… in full. If they for example choose not to emply any staff, they bank the money themselves, tax free…

      Source: Taxpayers’ Alliance.
      http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/files/meppay-1.pdf

    • 1257
      Raving Loon says:

      Would that be the Mugabe voting system whereby you get your face smashed in if you vote for anyone other than the ruling party?

    • 1314
      Zed says:

      Yip – this is very scary indeed.
      Why oh why is a change required now ?
      If FPP is on its way out the PR is the fairest way – I can’t see any other options available.
      One change I would make is to have a mimimum criteria to be allowed to vote.
      I mean, how many voters wouldn’t be able to name two Cabinet ministers or be able to describe how the person/party they are voting for differs from the opposition.
      I guess we’d all be surprised at the ignorance.
      Hence why I passionately believe that basic Economics/Politics ought to be taught in all schools.

    • 1328
      Anonymous says:

      I predict a Stalinist dictatorship.

  249. 1206
    Chinola says:

    AV is terrible news for Britain, cements the two party system if anything.

    • 1213
      resurgemus says:

      No it gives the power to the small parties in the middle

      Given who has organised it however this will wipe out all the Blairites in Labour or if Mandy knifes Brown all the Brownites !

      • 1226
        IRRITABLE BROWN SYNDROME says:

        Not sure the reference is to “Alternate Vote System”, rather an alternative to the current FPP system

  250. 1207
    Anonymous says:

    If the BNP gain any sort of foothold in this country I can see them organising gangs of boot boys to attack opposition Politicians and supporters in the street. Any democratically elected members whom they dont agree with will be subjected to “Violent Demonstrations” whilst the Police stand idly by. Equality under the law will not of course apply to people who dare to think differently and all kind of lawbreaking will be justified because the victims are of course in the wrong. Nast Party that BNP……errrrr hold on a minute.

  251. 1215
    Anonymous says:

    The election of a BNP politician is a SYMPTOM of the corruption in Government it is not the cause itself. Labours tactic is to focus in the Symptom ( unpleasant though it is ) and not on the cause which of course is their disasterous Governance of our country to the detrement of ALL within it of whatever creed and colour.

  252. 1220
    resurgemus says:

    Of course something this big needs to be put to the people, he can’t avoid it.

    The bit he has perhaps missed on referenda is that the voters tend to use it to answer a different question.

    This could quickly become a referendum on the government which if he loses he will be forecd to call GE

    • 1243
      pissed off pesioner says:

      Referendums. are you mad such things are verging on democracy and the houses of parlement wont stand for it. This is after all Great Britain where the proles need to be subdued at all times

      • 1257
        Anon says:

        Referenda are sheer insanity. In a direct democracy, a popular majority could steal whatever property of yours it wanted, which is communal property ownership – communism. The best you could hope for would be a stewardship of your possessions that could be revoked at any moment.

        • 1275
          pissed off pesioner says:

          You mean like stealing your home when you need to go into care

        • 1290
          Anon says:

          Far more stealing than that would happen under a communist system of communal property ownership via referenda. Your house would be stolen long before you were old and sick. You are obviously a communist. Sod off to the Respect website.

      • 1294
        Anon says:

        A labour government taxes you. In a system of direct democracy the plebs would confiscate your property altogether. So true conservatives support parliamentary democracy whilst the commietrash want referenda. A system of direct democracy could even result in absolute power being handed over to a demagogue, the opposite result of that intended.

      • 1303
        Anon says:

        Only the wealthy should be allowed to vote in general elections. The rest are too left wing to be trusted even with that much power, never mind with direct votes in plebicites.

    • 1318
      MI5 says:

      Brown is so fucking mad that he thinks he can win a referndum

      He will lose any referendum on anything he proposes FFS

      He represents 13% of UK voters now !!!!!

      The madness continues……..

  253. 1240
    Duck Island Blue says:

    A referendum on electoral reform but not on the Lisbon Treaty? Impossible.

    Only chance would be to roll all the referendum questions together and hope to lose the Lisbon Treaty question in the small print!

  254. 1241
    Ratsniffer says:

    I wouldn’t put anything past Broon and his bunch of crooks. They will do ANYTHING to stay in power, even changing the law to do so. The boy Cammo needs to be on his guard or he will be out manouvered by Grimer Mandlesnake and co.

    • 1307
      Anon says:

      I have always suspected that the mad bottler feels positively entitled to the position he occupies, that it is his actual right, rather than just wanting it.

  255. 1247
    Meg Griffin says:

    What a bad day Monday was. Knobheads voting for the fascists.

    Who are the c unts who keep voting LABOUR?

  256. 1248
    chronic says:

    Sites fucked up again, overload…..overload……

  257. 1250
    pissed off pesioner says:

    THERE WILL BE NO REFERENDUM ON THE LISBON TREATY

    You can all forget any hope of a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty.
    The Conservatives have made great play on the fact that Labour have renaged on their referendum promise. However though they pretend that they will hold a referendum they really mean that they will only hold a referendum if Irland vote no. The economics of Irland will certainly change the Irish vote to a yes vote and the Conservatives know this. Therefore once the Irish vote yes in Febuary the Conservatives will claim that they can no longer uphold the option of a referendum and pretend that they have not broken any promises. That is why they did not want Brown sacked for they would win the susequent election and be morally oblidged to hold a referendum before Febuary which none of the main parties want This believe it or not is called DEMOCRACY

  258. 1255
    pissed off pesioner says:

    The establishment are only interested in maintaining their currant position of power and are hell bent on undermining any political party whose policies threaten their monopoly.

    The British public were not consulted as to whether or not we would like any of the following

    The sign up to the Lisbon Treaty

    Mass immigration ( Enoch Powell MP was in fact vilified for his views) but the electorate were never consulted

    The forcing upon us of this ridiculous Political Correctness rules which impede our freedom of speech

    The “ Human Rights Act” which has become a charter used by Travellers, Religious Hate Preachers, Terrorists and Jailbirds to circumvent our laws.

    Even capitol and corporal punishment were abolished without our consent, as was hunting

    All this has happened under the guise of democracy, which is farcical.

    I am not interested in our present system of government and we need a total different set of ideologies. The dictatorship, which we have suffered over the last decades, is an affront to the word democracy

    • 1263
      Anon says:

      Giving the plebs a vote in regular parliamentary elections jeapordises your property as it is, without taking it to the next level, where their jealousy would not be moderated by Labour MPs deradicalised by comfortable salaries. Would you want all the housing estate chav plebs to be given something approaching or actually constituting a direct vote over your property? Even if the majority chose to let you keep your property, effectively they would still be the ultimately owners, and you would only have the stewardship of it on license.

      • 1270
        Anon says:

        Many could not tolerate such a diminution of their status as property owners and would leave the country.Margaret Thatcher believed in the sovereignty of parliament. Do you think she could have driven through her essential reforms if Tory MPs in marginal constituencies would have been subject to recall at any moment? No wonder the left, outside parliament at any rate, would love the idea of recall so much, or of direct referenda in which they could severely curtail even those property rights that survive under nokiaGBh, if not abolish them completely.

    • 1272
      Anon says:

      You are not interested in private property either then?

      • 1312
        Arthur Atkinson says:

        Je kunt van alles op eBay kopen en verkopen, van verzamelobjecten tot auto’s

    • 1277
      Anon says:

      You are just a communist who wants to introduce communal property ownership. That’s what direct democracy and referenda involve. The most you could hope for is the stewardship of your property, which a referendum could abolish at any moment. Give me a parliamentary system any day – despite periodic labour governments.

    • 1280
      Anon says:

      Margaret Thatcher believed in the sovereignty of parliament. Do you think she could have driven through her essential reforms if Tory MPs in marginal constituencies would have been subject to recall at any moment?

  259. 1267
    ian says:

    Beware of the simple masterplan “greenshoots”. That Fraudulant commie has ben hanging on for grim death on the basis he can spin any signs of recovery to his advantage. He is hoping the economy picks up and any scrap of positive news he will play it for all it is worth over the next 10 months. Mark my words. On the back of this he will claim he “led” the whole world out of recession”. This is the worry.

  260. 1281
    Sir Michael Shite's rent boy says:

    I see it looks like McShit is trying to change the voting system to prevent the Tories getting back into power. How can this kunte get away with this without the media kicking up a fuss? Oh hang on most of the media are up the backside of McShit and his fucking corrupt left wing bastards.

  261. 1282
    ian says:

    three points.

    1. his stratergy is to spin greenshoots to death over the next 10 months, any sign of recovery and I quote him before he has “we led the world out of recession” mark my words.
    2. electoral reform: his plan to fix the system (under the guise of parliamentary reform) thereby reducing Camerons lead. Mentalist will not support any type of reform that will compromise his vote any further.
    3. Why has the Telegraph stopped publishing? Keep going boys as this is a constant distruption to the mentalist’s spin machine. He cant keep banging on about G20 and how he lead the world out of recession blah blah when the Graph is exposing Socialist fraud in UK Parliament.

  262. 1288
    anon says:

    Where have the telegraph gone? has the mentalist bribed them?

  263. 1295

    Anyone checked the mortuaries for a stout chap smelling of Murphy’s and with Guido Fawkes on the toe tag? Things seem a little too quiet round here.

  264. 1302
    Sunonmars says:

    Well if he wants a referendum on a new voting system, lets have it next month along with the GE and the EU referendum, there sorted!

  265. 1304
    BuggerAll Money says:

    Fine by me too!……I think

  266. 1306
    Chinola says:

    Guido is dead :(

    • 1428
      Technical Advice says:

      Guido needs to give the password for this site to a trusted lieutenant AND he needs to have a backup server available with his blog software loaded in case the worst happens. Preferably outside of the EU.

      Are you listening Guido?

      • 1431

        All done already. This is hosted in the land of the free.

        • 1439
          Iberia Technical Advice says:

          It might be worth making contact with some Russian server providers just in case, and have a few spare domains registered with different hosts. That shouldn’t eat into the Guinness budget too much.

  267. 1311
    Anon says:

    I have always suspected that the mad bottler feels positively entitled to the position he occupies, thinking it is his actual right, rather than just wanting it.

    • 1375

      The mental illness called socialism is
      Narcissism leading to a sense of Entitlement
      Envy of others success.
      Projection, accusing others of their faults.

  268. 1313
    Otis O'Sullivan says:

    The only thing that bothers me about Stalin’s former dacha at Kuntsevo is the first syllable of the place

  269. 1315
    Anonymous says:

    If the BNP are acid, Labour are alkaline.

    The British people have been bathing in Labour alkaline.

    Britain needs to be restored to ph neutral. Water will not do the job.

    ps. I am a darkie.

  270. 1316
    Gordon Bum says:

    I notice that the mob that attacked the BNP news conference comprised fat pig-faced he-women with greasy hair and rotten teeth, and junkie wiggers with studs in their tattooed faces.

    I might go to a news conference of Gordon the flop-jawed Nazi from Scotchland, and throw eggs at the son of pig (ostrich eggs).

    I bet those thugs were organised by MI5 (Mossad lite) on the instructions of the pig Brown and the Nazi Mandelson.

    • 1372
      Geronimo Pratt says:

      Yes, but would you go to a press conference for some old Etonian toff kunze too?

  271. 1321
    olly says:

    why don’t we have any politicians as fun as sarah palin? she is hilarious http://fsn.typepad.com/blog/

  272. 1323
    CryBaby says:

    Guido, wondering why you haven’t posted anything about the UAF and their egg attack on the BNP????

  273. 1325
    Agent 99 says:

    Would you buy a constitution from this man? Brown pledges to rebuild Britain’s democracy and signals end to ‘first-past-the-post’ polls

    he’s actually going to try and fix the way we vote to favour Labour. Is there nothing they will not stoop to? We would never be rid of them!!!!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1191898/Beleaguered-Brown-pledges-radical-electoral-reform-rebuild-confidence-democracy.html

  274. 1327
    Nick Griffin says:

    A special treat
    The eggs are on me

  275. 1329
    Matt Chambers says:

    China and Canada are looking like the best places to do a runner too before the ZanuLabour mob start coming round and beating myself and family into pulp.

  276. 1332
    Agent 99 says:

    Farce over Glenys Kinnock, the makeshift minister who can’t even do her job because she’s still an MEP

    Downing Street sources last night insisted Mrs Kinnock had resigned as an MEP.
    But a European Parliament spokesman said he had no knowledge of her quitting the post. ‘We would normally get a formal notification if that had happened,’ said the spokesman. ‘But we haven’t had one.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1191715/Farce-Glenys-Kinnock-makeshift-minister.html

  277. 1333
    The scab on the face of NooLieBore says:

    Nobody’s gonna pick me off!

    Cos nuthin’s my fault.

    And I save the world!

    And I’m humble ‘n that.

  278. 1335
    BMW 750i says:

    Labour don’t hate the rich, they hate the fat Brummie businessman who eats Ginsters pasties whilst driving a large BMW, they hate him because he will tell them to fuck off to their face, something the professional classes appear to be unable to do – the self employed businessman is one of the few people who are actually free

  279. 1344
    grandma B says:

    Iain Dale has a blog on Gordon’s incredible plans for reform of the voting system. I find it horrifying to think that these plans could be put into being by our deluded Prime Minister at the drop of a hat. Will the honourable Labour MPs speak up for our democracy?

    • 1363
      Out of control says:

      >Will the honourable Labour MPs speak up for our democracy?

      Sorry to swear grandma B, but given the spineless show at the PLP yesterday, the only answer to your question is “will they fuck”.

      • 1368

        They’ve fucked the country.

      • 1380
        Dr Nuts says:

        Yes, and put it on expenses…

        After all, Purnell – the same Purnell who hates the Incapacity Benefit spongers, the Disability Living Allowance ‘troughers’, the ‘lazy’ ‘employment seekers’, the ‘whinging’ carers and ‘coffin dodging’ pension ’scroungers’ gives himself £100 a week in food allowance. (That’s £100 a week – just for food) – while everyone depending on the welfare system can only dream of having that much a week for food.

        £100 a week allowance from the state, while already pulling a cabinet ministers salary!

        Oh yes, no hypocricy from this w*nk*r!

      • 1400
        grandma B says:

        It’s OK about the swearing. I retired last year from working in a school for children with learning difficulties and the language was a bit choice at times. What’s a few swear words between friends.

        P.S. I still believe in Frank Field and Kate Hoey

        • 1424
          Out of control says:

          Agreed. They’re possibly the only two Labour MP’s that don’t run on batteries.

        • 1426
          Dr Nuts says:

          I must admit – it’s refreshing to see honest Labour members. It’s a pity that they are Labour and tarred with Brown’s ineptitude.

          Sorry about the language – but I don’t think the English Language even has words that come close to describing a venal self-interested hypocritical narcissistic egotistical man like Purnell.

    • 1385
      MI5 says:

      and ZANU Labour set up a “National” Council to look into these constitutional matters

      Which is merely a LABOUR FRONT ORGANISATION…like the Communists which were good at setting up

      There is nothing NATIONAL about NEW LABOUR’s COUCIL

      ANOTHER ATTEMPTED FRAUD ON THE PEOPLE

    • 1386
      Dr Nuts says:

      The advantage for Labour with the electorale reform – get 1,500,000 votes – earn 11 seats. Get 4,100,000 votes, (nearly triple) only get 26 seats! That’s proportional representation – also the Independents are given a harder time for election (that’ll f*ck the wannabe’s for challenging Labour troughers – let’s see them pay for the huge campaign expenses of much larger constuencies, unlike the Parties who’re getting EU money!).

      Ha! Ha! Ha! Democracy – that’s whatever I declare it to be!

      • 1396
        Dr Nuts says:

        Got the numbers wrong
        4,200,000 – 26 seats
        2,300,000 – 13 seats
        2,100,000 – 11 seats
        1,300,000 – 2 seats

        Labour looked at the results and realised how to maximise their seat share for votes!

    • 1390
      Dr Nuts says:

      Oh, yeah – forgot – get 950,000 votes – only get 2 seats. Proportional Representation … Heads Labour Win – Tails the electorate Loses!

  280. 1345
    Alan McJohnson says:

    Anybody who believes McTwat and Mandy just want to instigate a ‘debate’ about voting reform are fucking deluded. They’re gonna push this for all it’s worth if only to make the Tories look bad, as quite understandably, they won’t be too keen.

    • 1406
      Dr Nuts says:

      So – force the debate – make it clear that the reform is intended to keep labour in power – or to prevent the constuents from removing the troughing b*st*rds, as the winners are decided by a list.

  281. 1346
    Lord Lyle and Tate of Lookalicus Syd James says:

    Wheeeeeeeerees Guido

  282. 1349
    It was fuggin prince Philip says:

    If Guido has had an unfortunate accident, my money’s on 5

  283. 1354
    cummings says:

    Is endy-arsy some sort of rocking horse game?

  284. 1355
    Charles E Hardwidge says:

    Gordon Brown is the man to take hard working families through these difficult times. I have complete confidence in him. He’s a living saint.

    • 1408
      Dr Nuts says:

      Yep, if it wasn’t for Brown, we wouldn’t be suffering as badly as we’re going to.

      I have absolute confidence Brown has what it takes to make the times as difficult as possible for the hard working families.

  285. 1356
    Out of control says:

    If you had any doubts about whether the police are now totally out control in Britain I suggest you read this (and weep).

    “Six Scotland Yard officers are accused of ‘waterboarding’ drug suspects”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1191930/Six-Scotland-Yard-officers-accused-waterboarding-drug-suspects.html

  286. 1357
    malice in blunderland says:

    A couple of favourable quotes already from the Libdums re: the proposed voting reforms (rigging). I’m thinking with the support of these other electoral losers, NuLab will think they’ve got a good chance of rushing this through before the next election, and I get the distinct impression this has got priority (so fuck the economy and expenses debacle). If not, why give it so much prominence the very day after McTwat’s sorry ass has been ’saved’?

  287. 1366
    'of little importance' says:

    Whilst it is all very well all and sundry posting to this blog, is it realy appropriate? The bloody thing now takes ages to load. Could some of the less
    relevant perhaps go and post somewhere else or at least flag their entries as ‘of little importance’.
    I remain, Sir,
    your obedient Servant

    • 1376
      dirtyden says:

      He could start with you.

      Gordon Brown is rigging the voting system so Labour can never lose. Welcome to Germany, 1933. And all you can moan about is how slow all the comments on an open thread make your lousy computer. Sheesh. Poor you.

      BROWN IS A TYRANT.

      • 1414
        Anonymous says:

        Don’t you worry at all. They thought they’d rig the Assemblies to keep Liebour in power. In wales its a coalition, in Scotland a minority administration.

        I agree with PR fundamentally, but don’t for a minute believe that the UK is some East European lefty dominated place. PR will entrench the centre right, not the socialist left. So worry not.

  288. 1371
    Mandy's Piles says:

    Fuck me. Nesnight big discussion about Liebour and the ONLY opposition present comes from a left wing Union leader. No Tory or Lib Dem in sight.

    The BBC is so fucking up McMental’s arse they are up Mandy’s arse as well.

    • 1382
      Out of control says:

      All pretence at balance has now been dropped. The State has total control.

      What we have witnessed over the last week is nothing more than a coup d’etat. Or did you miss it?

    • 1392
      grandma B says:

      He did well didn’t he. He was the only one not waffling. It’s good to hear someone talk in English rather than politics-speak.

      • 1434
        Dr Feelgood says:

        I thought e seemed to be saying, ‘get on with rigging the electoral system, it’s too complicated for the plebs, and keep bunging the workers’.

        But overall, what a bloody disgrace the whole ‘debate’ was (again).

    • 1395
      Anonyamongus says:

      Then after the Unite leader, nice to see a face to the person behind the UAF, although not a pretty sight and not too bright along with just a hint of nonce to the face.

  289. 1373
    "Brown Out" says:

    MPs are either ex-terrorists, fraudsters or plainly narcissistic. Our banking system is run like a children’s play centre.

    Solution: Change the voting system! Why not, its is the only thing left we can alter? Why not play.

    When will the public learn, that whatever the system of government: dictator, democracy, communist etc etc they all fail when corruption occurs.

    Corruption happens when the leaders flounder. While a government has a crusade, or aim, there is no problem. The UK government has been starved of purpose by the EU. Now they are devoid of direction the corruption seeps in. It is a brown stain flowing over this country at present.

  290. 1374
    Mandy's Piles says:

    If Griffin doesn’t want to get attacked he needs to get some hooks instead of hands a stupid fucking big beard and start ranting on about killing infidels. He’ll have tons of fucking pig scum to protect him then.

  291. 1378
    nonnynoo says:

    Mathew Taylor just on Newsnight pushing strongly for voting reform before the next election……..slimy twat.

  292. 1383
    For fucks sake says:

    Six Scotland Yard officers are accused of ‘waterboarding’ drug suspects

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1191930/Six-Scotland-Yard-officers-accused-waterboarding-drug-suspects.html

    All part of Gordons sick world

    • 1401
      Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

      Don’t believe this rubbish. They were parking offences ffs.

  293. 1393
    • 1419
      King Mandy the First says:

      No biggy. We’ll order another inquiry, suppress the report and have him exonerated again in a jiffy.

  294. 1394
    Charles Hardon says:

    If you wish to contact Nick Griffin please feel free to do so

    Nick
    Griffin
    Y Gribin, Llanerfyl
    Y Trallwng
    Welshpool
    Powys
    SY21 0JQ
    01938 820560

  295. 1407
    The scales have dropped from Wales's eyes says:

    Labour was originally God fearing but got taken over by athiest/marxists. Kinncck the pillock forced them underground so holy tony and son of the manse could be elected. Labour is a party without a soul and is suffering the consequences. We gave you the Kinnocks, you gave us Hain- Mexican standoff.

  296. 1409
    Scorched Earth says:

    Telegraph going front page with an alledged Brown/Malik cover up.

    Surprised Guido hasn’t run with that yet ?

  297. 1413

    Unite Against Fascism?

    More like Unite Against Democracy.

    Do you realise these bastards are funded by Unite and the Home Office?

    For fuck’s sake..

    • 1423
      Dr Feelgood says:

      The extreme left-wingers of course are just as interested in de-stabilizing democratic discourse for their own nefarious purposes as the Nazis are. Non-engagement and violence are the tools of the authoritarian and helps the Toytown Nazi’s ’cause’ by letting them portray themselves as victims.

      Despite their luck at winning a couple of MEP seats, we are a long, long way from exhausting democratic argument as a means of defeating them.

    • 1425
      mad fred 2 para (retired) says:

      It is little more than state sponsored anti democratic political terrorism.

      Why should others play by the rules of democracy when it is obvious that the left wing in all its guises will stop at nothing to stop debate?

      These extremist leftist thugs will stop at nothing – they would ban the Tory Party & UKIP as well if they thought they could get away with it.

      • 1432
        Dr Nuts says:

        I am waiting for an extension to anti-terrorist laws which ‘prevent democratic destabilisation of the nation’ – and used to round up all the opposition to the Nu Labour party!

        After all, something similiar was used by Hitler.

  298. 1420
    mad fred 2 para (retired) says:

    From the Telegrpah:

    “Gordon Brown is refusing to publish the **”"independent”"** report which Downing Street says clears Labour MP Shahid Malik over his housing arrangements”.

    Says it all really, doesn’t it?

  299. 1421
    Anonymous says:

    I knew the real reason Mandelssen had been brought back was to fix the next election. Now that even the fraudulent postal vote on demand scam can’t be relied on to get them through next time, I guess really drastic measures are required. All in the name of improving democracy, of course.

    • 1441
      Mandy's Piles says:

      Are you suggesting that Labour fiddle the Postal voting system? I’m sure that the rumour that Sir Alan Sugar is buying the Royal Mail for £1 is just that.

  300. 1436
    Anonymous says:

    Compulsory voting not PR. PLP are the case against democracy.

  301. Anonymous says:

    Unite Against Fascism (UAF) is sponsored and organised by the Unite trade union, which, as we all know, has been hijacked by Charlie Whelan and his Brownite chums.

  302. Dr Nuts says:

    Absolutely – the only party which should be allowed to wallow in hatred based politics is Nu Labour.

  303. Anonymous says:

    I think you will find that Cameron backs the UAF as well.
    Such a lot of politicians seem to have a common purpose.

  304. But they don’t mind being rich themselves!

  305. Anonymous says:

    Labour also hate English people, whether they’re rich or not.

  306. Ratsniffer says:

    Even at the height of the suited, smiling middle class man of the people Blair era, the nasty, hate filled, shrill voice of old labour class war commies was still there.

    These people are the true nasty party with their hatred for middle england – yet they weagerly hold their hands out for the taxes they generate.

    Blair and his cronies realised that this ugly, grasping, foul side of labour was unelectable, so they had to camoflage them and try to pretend they had been expelled.

    But they’ve always been there, and they always will be.

  307. Anonymous says:

    no no no they dont hate the Rich its only other peoples riches they hate . They make themselves Rich naturally !

  308. pissed off pesioner says:

    The police will turn up and batter you to death but no charges will arise out of the police complaints investigation

  309. Anon says:

    In a way, that is what deradicalises the Labour MP. Once they find themselves “rich” themselves, they see merit in private property after all, and do not seek to end it altogether. Sure they still impose higher taxation than the Tories, but if you gave the plebs a direct vote on property or let them recall MPs who did not redistribute enough, you would really be in trouble then. It would be communism by the back door.

  310. Anonymous says:

    Labour’s useful idiots, the UNITE union-sponsored UAF mob, attacks Labour’s political opponents on the streets while, inside government, Gordon Brown plots to gerrymander the voting system to keep the Tories out and help his party retain power in the next general election.

    That’s if this despot decides to hold one.

  311. chronic says:

    Thats what our new leader Fondelbottom stands(bends over) for, Communism by the back door.

  312. Anon says:

    The Labour party is a social hatred party. So of course it makes a very curious exception of prosecuting those who incite that kind of hatred. All the commies should be in jail for incitement against the “rich”.

  313. chronic says:

    The next step is the bee emm pee will bring a mob to protest against the uaf mob and hey presto riots on the streets.At least it will take the spotlight off economic meltdown and expenses.

  314. Francois le Bouf says:

    But this only effects english people I understand which is shown by the votes for the english national party. What’s the problem?

  315. Steve Expat says:

    Mods

    New thread please, lots of new stories coming up, starting with:

    - Electoral reform
    - Griffin assault

    This one is broken again. Thanks :-)

  316. Anonymous says:

    Don’t judge other people by your standards Tory. Your party supports the UAF.

  317. Anon says:

    Conservatives should protest at labour events which are all about inciting hatred of the rich.

  318. anonymouse says:

    Steve Expat says:
    June 9, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    He says “Insh’Allah” – “If God is Willing” in Arabic, 3 times in that video, in case anyone was wondering…

    Take a look at what Liberal M.P Simon Hughes has to say…

  319. “weagerly”. Word of the thread.

  320. Anon says:

    Only the “rich” should be allowed any vote.

  321. Anonymous says:

    People like this Quisling skunk would quite happily see Britain became a Muslim country, if it meant votes and power for his pathetic party.

    Little does he know that when it’s time to start the hard Jihad, the Muslims will have no need of Kafur parties like his.

  322. Maqboul says:

    How many times did he say, “Al ham da gorillaz”?

  323. Novak N. Goode says:

    I think I’m gonna puke…..

  324. The Beast Of Clerkenwell says:

    And the “Brothers and Sisters ” would happily throw him off a cliff or drop a stone wall upon him for being a poofter
    Id help, not cos he is a Knob Jockey
    Just because he is a Hoon

  325. Loadsa Money says:

    Hear Hear!!

  326. Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

    Are there any muslim PM wanabes in the conservative party ?

  327. mad fred 2 para (retired) says:

    Dont worry.

    The Lib Dems are the same treasonous naive interntionalist cretins they always were.

    Simon Hughes would say anything to any audience to get votes.

    Ask Peter Tatchell.

    And the Limp Dums have the audacity to call British patriots “extremist”?

  328. Matt Chambers says:

    loads sure the Tory MEP that lost against Griffin was a muslim and he was bleating onto the news with 6 of his muslim heavies behind him all nodding their heads.

  329. Sir Mufbourne-Harbor says:

    Ireland is the worlds largest banana exporter apparently.

  330. mad fred 2 para (retired) says:

    I was unaware of that.

    Thanks.







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