Latest Online Data Shows BNP Not Top
There have been a few newspaper stories about the BNP’s popularity online suggesting it is surging in ‘popularity’. It is even claimed that it is the most popular political site online. The BNP boast that this is the case based on Amazon’s Alexa rankings. The problem with Alexa is that it is easily gamed, download the free toolbar or extension and you boost your own ranking when you visit your own site. If BNP activists are encouraged to download the toolbar, they will make it appear that they are more popular. Of necessity given the BNP are not given mainstream space they are (disproportionately to their size) very active online with a well developed web presence. It appears to be true that they have the highest traffic of any official website of any UK political party. They are not however quite as popular as they claim.
The online advertising industry demands independent, verifiable metrics. Three firms dominate the online metrics business, ABCe, Comscore and Hitwise. They all use different methodologies and none are perfect. ABCe is more precise but is paid for by the publisher and uses verified data from the publishers own servers. Comscore and Hitwise are by nature inexact but have the advantage of sampling on sound methodologies and are very good at measuring relative market share, even of competitors. If you know your own traffic you can therefore derive the approximate traffic of your rivals relative to your own. Below is the Hitwise ranking data for April 2009 for blogs and political sites viewed in the UK:
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So given that last month Guido knows he had circa 3 million page views, the BNP (with half the relative market share) probably had circa 1.5 million page views. You might note that the Guardian’s Comment is Free, with all the cross marketing, budget and staff only manages to have 31% more readers than Guido. It must drive them crazy at Guardian HQ that a part-time, rarely sober, lone blogger with a lap-top and a site that costs a couple of hundred quid a month to maintain, runs them so close. No wonder they lose so much money…
Rarely sober! absolutely totally brilliant.
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Well done Guido. A couple of hundred quid a month well spent.
The Guardian? Fuck ‘em.
D’ya hear that Polly? That’s the sound of David Cameron cancelling your contract to advertise all them bed-wetting and box-ticking public appointments.
P45 for Polly. P45 for Polly.
I have met Polly in person. Short, dumpy, ugly flat shoes, mouth like a cut in her face, voice like metal grinding on metal, tapping away on her mobile every two minutes. They say she’s not as nice as she looks, though.
When I switched on Sky News yesterday I wondered how they managed to get an arse to talk to the camera. I then realised it was Toynbee’s face.
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This blog is more like the BBCommunist propaganda channel every day!
I think its sad that you people pick on Polly Toynbee just because she’s ugly, fat, stupid and writes for the Guardian.
Its people like you who give idiots a bad name.
More pearls of wisdom here.
She’s, (pt), such a bore, and so’s the guardian. She’s so predictable, and the
guardian always tows the nulabour line.
THe BNP only claim they are the biggest political party website,and this is true and with bells on.
That is a simple fact and the only relevant one.
The other party websites are on a life support system in comparison, no matter what way you try and spin it!
Of the many people I come across daily who mention voting Bnp almost all have no home computer and are unlikely to be able to use the one at their work place for the purpose of looking at websites. This will apply to all parties of course but I wouldn’t bank on bnp predictions being accurate for this reason.
That’s exactly what I was going to say.
sadly it seems as though Guido has jumped on the try and make up some scaremongering bullshit about the BNP bandwagon.
I would have thought he could have left that to all the other media outlets, as they seem to be going hell for leather on that front.
None of it has changed my mind. I’m still voting for them…..because the other bastards don’t want me to….and whatever they don’t want, must be good for the ordinary person in the street.
Guardian without adds for public sector non-jobs would have to seriously cut staff numbers
Ruth Kelly, Myners and Wagg Prosser used to work for The Guardian.
Ashley’s father is a labour peer.
Nuff said
At the risk of being cynical, the trouble is keeping it going. There are only 646 (?) MP’s, but doubtless the next election will provide the usual crop of clowns. Just hope that some of them cannot add up as well.
Keeping it going shouldn’t be too difficult. With the economic destruction of the UK well under way it will serve as a focus for Labour fuckwits to appear and blame Cameron for 200bn quid deficits, record unemployment and currency collapse. And no amount of reason will persuade them that it’s Brown’s fucking fault.
interesting numbers Guido.
if we accept, as you say, that they are probably rigging the figures and if they have 1.5 million pages read by around 500,000 visits per month then that averages 125,000 visits per week.
those 125,000 visits probably contain a harcore element of maybe one or two thousand individuals who are on the dole and have time to fuck around online all day specifically tasked with artificially pumping up the page and visit numbers.
so effectively the bn p has an online presence and core support group made up of lazy benefit scroungers who are racist and think they are superior to other people.
wankers.
in a country with 60 million people the bn p party has only a couple of thousand hardcore activists.
if it wasn’t for their nazi views and access to the internet they would be a completely pathetic organisation.
we did not defeat hitler in the second world war to then vote nazi thugs like the bn p into the British Parliamentt.
this country is anti-fascist by nature.
If thats true, how come we have had a ZanuFascist government for the last 12 years?
Read Michael Foots “left wing socialist” Manifesto of the 1980`s, then go to the BN P`s website and read their current Manifesto, they could have been written by the same person.
ZanuLabour, Socialist, Fascist?
There is little to choose between them all.
Thats why you all hate each other, you are competitors, rivals for the same core voters and if you were honest, you would admit it too.
Oh dear can’t you think of something new to say.
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There’s precious little difference between socialism (international socialism) and fascism (nationalist socialism) apart from the racism. Both are incompatible with democracy and the only reason they are each others throats all th etime is because they are so similar.
“apart from the racism”
Positive discrimination, as practiced by socialists, is every bit as racist as negative discrimination practiced by the fascists, it just cuts different ways. Hatred of others or hatred of kindred kind, they are each others mirror image. Judging by the trolls response, they know it too.
Thick as two what?
Guido stated 1.5 mllion page views, not pages; and he cobbled together that low estimate by a miracle of rare device.
Love how you then, without the aid of a net, extrapolated that only 2,000 people visit the unmentionable party’s website.
Using the same logic, all of 4,000 silly, addicted sods read Guido’s blog; and maybe James Gordon Brown and a few fellow fascists are the sole visitors to Labour’s toerag website.
Still, as one of their heroes observed, “it’s not who votes that counts, it’s who counts the votes” (or summat similar).
Those cardboard ballot boxes that recently have become all the rage will look pretty tatty by the time the counts actually start.
I wonder what the people who fought in those wars would think about the current outcome? I bet half of them at least wouldnt have bothered had they known
Quote “this country is anti-fascist by nature.”
Yeah, but its not anti communist. There is no threat from fascism, its always been the communist doctrine which today is alive and very well. Its simply known as the Left and the Labour party, and the BBC,and most of the MSM media.
On that note where are LabourList? That website for like-minded people. I bet their percentage share has nose-dived since Derek left. Bring back Draper! (for another kicking).
I only ever visited LabourList to laugh at the mendacious and self-indulgent bollocks spouted by Draper and to see with whom he had fallen out that day.
I can honestly say I have never visited the site since he left.
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It is no surprise that your site has more hits. Most people just aren’t interested in party propaganda of any party.
“they have the highest traffic of any official website of any UK political party. ”
This means a lot more. This will probably be zipped again, but I predict that they will get between 12 and 18%.
It’s also fair to say that a significant proportion of the BNP website traffic will be people visiting the site, either to confirm their own view about the BNP (in the same way that a Christian might watch Jerry Springer: The Opera), or simply to laugh at the crazy fuckers.
Just because you look at a car crash doesn’t mean you want to be in it…
…and the Guardian’s site is about as funny as a dead puppy on Christmas day.
The Guardian’s site does have promise, problem is they pay their hacks far too much. They could get students, politicos, bloggers etc to write articles for free.
So why pay Polly and kneepads 6 figure salaries?
I find the Grauniad website quite funny really, reading the replies to the crap that Polly etc puts out. If these replies represent Labour supporters views, then I can’t see them getting anything except from the illiterates of this country (probably explains why they’re going to get about 20% then).
Actually, a dead puppy on Christmas day IS pretty funny – a little less dog shit on the pavements!
Good to see Icanhascheezburger is still ahead of you, hate to think what will happen when British politics is deemed more important than hilarious cat pictures.
trai lolfatcats i has mps sain soz 4 steelin ur moneh lolz
Three million morons can’t be wrong!
Excellent piece Guido, excellent. As an aside:Labour party election leaflets have same look and feel of Pizza Hut leaflets and the west london versions make little or no reference to the elections being Euro elections instead coming across as though they are local / general elections.Muppets
I have noticed that too about the election leaflets.
I do not expecti works of art but too many look like an advert from the back pages of a cheap porno mag.
Some leaflets for our Labour Council elections actually spout the national Labour mantra of ‘Brown best man to lead us through these difficult economic times, hard-working families’: I shit you not.
Deluded or what?
The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.” – Jospeh Goebbels, “Aus Churchills Lügenfabrik,” 12. january 1941, Die Zeit ohne Beispiel
Tut Mr Goebbels wrong wrong wrong, Herr Gobbler is Scottish, not a bad prediction even so and the monkey would award the banana
I’m amazed the BBC blog network gets so much traffic because practically everything critical of the Maximum Imbecile and his band of fuckwits gets moderated into space.
The Chinese must think we all love our government from the comments that are left.
The BBC (and Labour) is obviously working on the North Korean model of news management….
http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm
Always good for a laugh. Bit like the impartial BBC really.
The BBC is stuffed full of Common Purpose drones, from Thompson down. They all share the same foetid undemocratic “third way” agenda, as the ZanuLab scum.
They just claim the stats and ignore the content.
Well those lying SH1TS at the BBC obviously love our government; that much at least is clear. Impartial my arse.
The Government Paid off Dyke at the BBC for speaking the Truth about IRAQ. Then some other faceless W==ker took over how many hundreds of thousands are the governors of the BBC and Executives pocketing to keep their mouths firmly Shut. Shut the whole lot down we are sick of the biased clap trap pumped out by the BBC News. British Soldiers murdered in Afghanistan while we have to watch some Celebrity T–t promote their book or song.
Its the establishment you know “those with the pinny’s and funny hats. the Beeb high command is rife with them too.
Beeb needs to be broken up to do what it does best. Nature programmes and the like.
Don’t you mean “Open”
Even the nature programs are all vehicles for global warming propaganda now.
Agree, absolutely!
Actually the Chinese have worked out that our Prime Mentalist is a fuckwit. I live in. Shanghai and our local daily has been following the telegraph revelations with glee. Could I please ask that you refrain from making any negative comments about my gracious hosts as when this happens I lose access to this site. Take that as a warning of what would happen if Zanulabour got another five years of ducking up the country!
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How much of the bbc web traffic actualy comes from the uk.
Question Time was a disgace last night. It was a bash the bnp fest – which is fine, but why not give them a right of reply, no fair minded person can justify a positon without free debate. The no platform agenda of the mainstream media feeds into the mindset that still the establishment only allows certain kinds of opinion and hiding something. It can only help them. They still don’t get it.
You’re right – the establishment is terrified that the whole fucking applecart is about to be kicked over and all the fat, cosy, thieving nonjobs with it.
You are absolutely right! Dimbleby is terrified of things getting out of hand in both his radio and tv Any Questions programmes. He likes to represent the
establishment, never deviates, a bit of a BBC dinosaur. The BBC has done several interviews recently when the argument has not been balanced. particularly when the BNP is being discussed. The government, the opposition,
the media, and religious bodies all seem to be terrified of the BNP. The BNP will only ever represent a thread of opinion in the UK. That’s fine, what’s the problem
with that? THEY say – the powers that be, that we live in a democracy. What a joke.
I’m sorry to say that democracy is a sham in this country.
It just reinforced my decision to vote for them.
If that disgraceful pack of lying, cheating, on the make and conniving ‘politicians’ are so against them – they must have something going.
Whatever it may be – sure as God made little green apples they appear to be the only party to give any consideration for the working working class and middle class people.
The enemy of my enemy (the political class, bankers and general elitist scum) might just be my friend and seemingly the only one I have.
The Archbishop of Canterbury pontificating to us was the last straw.
Glad to see that I Can Haz Cheesburger? is high up in the ratings. It is good to see hoomans treating us like god.
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Question Time was a joke last night, an orchestrated bash the bn’p fest by the bbc. The no platform agenda is disgraceful, let them have a right of reply. No fair minded person can defend a position whereby their opponent is gagged. What are they afraid of?
I missed QT – but not allowing an alternative opinion from the established liberal mindset is what the BBC is all about. It is the state owned mindset enforcer. Unfortunately, we are forced to pay the tax which funds it.
I saw about 45 mins of it.
I was looking forward to hearing Daniel Hannan MEP of The devalued Prime Minister of a devalued Government fame.
Instead he was muzzled by the chairman who let some mouthy cow talk over everyone and everything.
UKIP’s boy Lafarge or whatever made his points when he could.
The other non-entities . . well, early nigh next week.
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He also made two million quid!!
Question Time is always a joke. The audience behave like well trained seals. Dimbleby is oh so right and proper! like a school master only concerned with keeping his class in order. About time they had some real people on the programme
who are allowed to say more or less what they want, and not a predictable procession of tribal politicians etc.
Guido probably pays more tax than the Guardian Media Group as well. Roll on the public sector jobs central website. Polly’s last column before the Grauniad goes bust will probably amount to ‘Well, I hope you’re all proud of yourselves – I’ve had to sell my Tuscan villa.’
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On the BBC website ‘Englkand’ News the top story is a mother being prosecuted under the Fraud act for trying to get her kid into a decent school.
Meanwhile Moran claims 22K for dry rot in her boyfriends house 100 miles away from her constituency or London and she decides she may, unless she chanes her mind once the fuss dies down, step down with a 100K pay-off at the next election.
It’s a question of priorities you see.
What if the mum says her kid wants to be an MP, will that get her off?
Would take more than that to get me off “sniff”
No, no. Moran’s not well. She said so.
Watching Newsnight last night was delightful. To see the complete lack of irony as Paxo grilled Bill Cash about his expenses when he draws almost a million quid a year from the taxpayer. Fuck me what’s going on?
These Knackers are surrounded by Yes Sir No Sir brigade and have lost their grip on reality. They are just like celebreties who have believed their own bullshit, what a demented place full of demented individuals.
No wonder why they lose so much money…
Poly doesn’t come cheap you know. It costs a lot of dosh to lay a champagne socialist.
Worth it, though. Her conversation is sparkling and you know how she can bang on about something again and again and again. She makes a good cup of fairtrade tea, too!
Crikey!
You’re beginning to sound like a “white van” salesman!
Naaaaah, it’ll be ‘I can no longer bear to live under a Tory government with record unemployment, record budget deficit the highest tax rates in over 30 years….’
All technically correct of course but wilfully blind to the imbecile ideology (her’s) that got us there.
True. When the government is forced to go to the IMF she’ll probably proclaim it ‘a sign of how highly Gordon Brown is respected as the international community rallies to our aid’. I wonder if she’s ever read ‘Atlas Shrugged’?
“I wonder if she’s ever read ‘Atlas Shrugged’?”
Doubtful, lefties hate their worldview to be contradicted, that would be tantamount to intellectual terrorism you know.
Spot on Hayek. Your freedom to speak is upheld… as long as you agree with them.
Why would anyone want to read the lunatic ravings of a madwoman ?
Having read of all the expenses scandals involving all the main parties including UKIP It is clear that none are fit to govern. However all are united in their condemnation of the BNP.
Well let’s look at the BNP and what they stand for
1) Removal of ridiculous political correctness laws which impede free speech
2) Banning further immigration
3) Releasing us from the Human rights act which is used almost exclusively by jailbirds or minority groups to undermine common sense regulations
4) British jobs for British workers a policy expounded by no less than our Priminister
5) Priority for housing dental care and medical attention for the indigenous population who have contributed, that just seems to me to be fairness
6) The removal from Britain of illegal immigrants or fictitious asylum seekers. Under international laws asylum seekers must seek asylum in the first country they come to after crossing their own borders so it is difficult to understand how we have any that are genuine.
7) Extricating us from the EU so that ALL of our laws and borders are controlled by the British and not by some European un-elected autocrats
I cannot see anything in the above with which I disagree and one then needs to consider why the establishment vilifies them with such vigour. They can hardly speak from a moral standpoint for we are seeing apparent fraud in the House of Commons (you will notice that the police have so far failed to act) and we have jailbirds and corruption in the House of Lords. They have also embroiled us in an illegal war, which has cost many lives.
The Churches condemn the BNP on the grounds of intolerance whilst they themselves are falling out over the ordination of women and homosexuals.
The media are of course controlled by the government and big business, both of which have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo and whatever they accuse others of they are guilty of themselves. We must not forget that even the MPs who did not abuse the expense system failed to publicly protest. In any other walk of life wouldn’t that be seen as aiding and abetting?
There is no way I will consider voting for the tripartite crooked cabal we have endured for the last 50 years so I for one will be placing my vote elsewhere.
Well no one can be certain of a political parties agenda as we have seen via the broken promises of consecutive UK governments, (like the Lisbon Treaty Referendum which will never take place even under the Tories).
However the racist accusations against the BNP are somewhat disingenuous when our present government were all in favour of banning the Ghurkhas, I should also point out that the BNP canvasser in this area is himself of obvious mixed race.
The BNP seem to be saying that foreigners who live of the state and preach hatred or undermine our religion or way of life should not be welcomed or listened to via the “ Human Rights Act”. Those who have contributed to our way of life are welcome. Others who claim to be offended by Christmas, Easter or our national flag should be ignored. This is after all our country and we are far more tolerant than most. Our tolerance therefore should not be abused as it undoubtedly is at present.
I am confused as to what is so wrong with their manifesto, that does not mean that I would rush out and vote for them but I do feel that they should be given a fair hearing without the bias bombarded at us daily by a media who undoubtedly wish to maintain the status quo. Furthermore it is an insult to the IQ of the voting public for them to assume that they are not capable of making a rational judgement of a political parties agenda without their biased input.
They are not the keepers of the nations intelligence and their arrogance is breathtaking.
agree 1000 persent pop let joana lumly an de gerkins clear OUTT de ouse of common crimnels
Pissed off.
Whereas I would normally pass over something of this length I stayed with your piece because it is calm and, on the face of it, some of what you say is seductive at first sight.
But nationalism seems to begin with superficially attractive, reasonable propositions. The problem lies with where these propositions lead. I am not going to give you a lecture. Instead, as you are a pensioner, take the time to read William Shirer’s ‘Berlin Diaries’ and ‘The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich’.
And don’t forget, that Hitler was the leader of a democratic party, democratically elected at a time of national ‘difficulties’.
…and so was Lenin and his Bolshevik chums who also seized absolute authority and went on to murder tens of millions of the Soviet Union’s indigenous inhabitants. So why do we exclusively have to hear about Hitler all the time, every day?
Talwin,
As a pensioner you must realise that I was born before WW2 and am therefore very aware of the rise of the “Third Reich” having been bombed by them as a child in London. I am also quite well read on political history but that does not mean that I am prepared to be persuaded by vitriolic bias from the media. The establishment are only interested in maintaining their currant position of power and are hell bent on undermining any political party whose policies threaten their monopoly.
The British public were not consulted as to whether or not we would like any of the following
The sign up to the Lisbon Treaty
Mass immigration ( Enoch Powell MP was in fact vilified for his views) but the electorate were never consulted
The forcing upon us of this ridiculous Political Correctness rules which impede our freedom of speech
The “ Human Rights Act” which has become a charter used by Travellers, Religious Hate Preachers, Terrorists and Jailbirds to circumvent our laws.
Even capitol and corporal punishment were abolished without our consent, as was hunting
All this has happened under the guise of democracy, which is farcical.
I am not interested in our present system of government and we need a total different set of ideologies. The dictatorship, which we have suffered over the last decades, is an affront to the word democracy
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bloody hell, you haven’t been here long and you are already all puffed out!
you just can’t keep up with the pace, eh?
hey, don’t worry about it, it happens to the best of them.
you were a flash in the pan.
oh well.
pissed off pensioner
You make a lot of sense! Perhaps that’s why the LibLabCons and the media are so eager to smear and denigrate them?
Well written and I agree whole heartedly. What is real the problem with their manefesto? If they are called nazis and thugs because they are a National Party why are the Scottish and Welsh National Parties OK?
How on earth can they be worse than this thieving lot we have now?
Will they go to war without a mandate?
Will they kill people innocent Brazillians on the underground?
Will they shove over and kill innocent newspaper sellers?
Will they put cameras everywhere to spy on us?
Will they allow other cultures to over run us.
Will they give the right to rule over us to a unelected quango in Europe?
The list goes on and on and the three main parties are all guilty.
I’ll cut my own Wisteria and clean my own flat thanks and I will vote for a party that PUTS BRITAIN FIRST.
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Well put, sir! Whichever way one looks at it, the Tories, NuLabour and the Libdems are simply one party with three names. There’s nothing to choose between the lot of them.
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I’d already decided to vote for them.
Reading this post makes me all the more determined to do so.
I think I read some time ago that Yougov posted up the unmentionable’s policies and some 70% or more supported them
When the party name was added that support fell away.
The asumption being that the anti unmentionable propaganda was doing its work.
Now many of those propagandists have been shown to be little more than liars and fraudsters.
Perhaps they lied about the unmentionables as well?.
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geedo says lies
nick griffin embarrassed the Queen just to score a cheap political point.
nick griffin is an anti-royalist as is anyone who is stupid enough to vote for his party.
we fought hitler to defeat fascism which means only a mad man would think of giving their vote to a fascist party.
Charlotte atkins outed:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5402740/MPs-expenses-Charlotte-Atkins-and-the-repair-bill-that-included-20000-for-windows.html
Perhaps she should have a chat with Julie Kirkbride.
The power of the Brown has increased, is increasing and ought to be diminished:
http://home.freeuk.net/don-aitken/emay051.html
A famous episode in parliamentary history – yet it all sounds like today, with a small change in the cast list. The crown no longer has the power.
From the figures, the BNP website is the most popular political party website though. So looks like the elections may be a real upset.
I don’t think Brown will allow them to push him though – he’d rather call and lose an election before letting another labourite push him out.
I thought we weren’t allowed to mention the BNP?
You can’t have it both ways Guido, either we can discuss them or we can’t, ther shouldn’t be any bias.
Yes Guido can.
Looks like BNP are the most popular political party website though. No wonder big 3 are worried.
If there is a big upset, there’s talk of brown being forced out but I bet he’d rather have an election and lose it than let one of the underlings take over.
There is no point voting for the BNP because these polls show that nobody is voting for the BNP. Yeah right, get a fucking grip.
Things are a bit strange in the opinion polls. They all quotes figures of support for the BNP at about 4% or lower yet, in current local elections whether in a Conservative or Labour ward, the BNP is scoring just under 20%. Are the people lying en masse about their voting intentions?
Guido, does this mean we can mention the BNP without getting deleted? ;-)
How peculiar. This is a thread about a particular political party, but you can’t submit a post containing the name of this particular party without being moderated.
Censorship, it’s the Road to Serfdom.
Calm down dear, it’s only a political blog.
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Just a test to see if “hull fcs” can be used as a substitute
Full marks for getting through moderation!
With the elections coming up, I’ve read a lot of spoilers about the party that shall remain nameless in the dead-tree-press, but I didn’t expect to find one here.
Does this suggest that Guido has now joined the establishment?
Arbitrary deletion policy still in place.
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I noticed. Shame you didn’t read the thing before you deleted it.
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I think Guido is spot on, my postal vote for the European Elections arrived some two weeks ago, dutifully marked a bold cross in all the boxes.. so no one was left out or hurt {er joke} negotiated the strange return ritual; put voting paper in envelope A sign white covering note and enter correct birthdate put both in envelope B and post.
Hitler Centrals junk mail arrived a week later and today an invitation from Number 2 EU or it could be no french water?.. (strange name for political party) to join a Visteon Factory convener, A Shop Steward, an Author/Designer, Unison Steward, a former CWU activist for an eve of poll rally @ The Friends Meeting House in Euston some 80 miles away from my address.
But the really strange thing is that not one of them has actually put a manifesto or clear statement of aims as to why I should line their pockets with taxpayer cash. So to help out here are a few ideas they and the Daily Mail might like to pinch for the general election due to be announced the day Gorbals Mick bales out…(?)
1. Petrol and Diesel prices to be pegged to a marginal discount to that charged in France. Transport touches everything that we produce or move. Hauliers are fitting huge fuel tanks so they only fill up in France not the UK. How crazy is that!
2. Gas and Electricity utilities owned or part owned by foreign governments,
to have profits capped at notional percentage unless they can show significant investment in UK infrastructure.
3. MP’s expenses cost us taxpayers £93 million per annum excluding salaries see the spreadsheet on http://tinyurl.com/o4eo2w no cash payments al, to be on a govt issued credit card and subject to audit and vouchers.
4. Police to properly enforce licensing acts ie landlords are not permitted to serve drinks to drunks period.
That would kill binge drinking overnight and police permitted to charge back to High Street Nightclubs (as they already do to football clubs the cost of late night thursday to sunday bingle drunk patrols.
5. NHS Emergency Rooms to charge a flat £100, if injuries at all drink or violence related, on credit card.
6. Chemical beers (eg Stella aka Wife Beater, Fosters, Carling etc ) ie all top pressure gas assisted lagers, Alcopops, to be taxed at 50 % more than native real ales/beers from small independent breweries.
7. Supermarkets to be barred from selling class A fruit and veg at premium prices. IE if it looks pretty it commands a premium.
8. MPs and Peers to be paid a flat rate based on numbers of questions asked and attendance records ie flexitime clocking in and out system, by swipe Oyster type card .
9. MPs IT terminals and all office sundries to be centrally sourced and all rented from a specific central buying organisation . cashless transactions. Kit changed maintained and all handed back if MP resigns. MP consituency offices to be housed in central / local government premises ie health centre / library .
10. No expenses cash payments, all agreed expenses to be charged through a government issued credit/debit card and monthly statements to be posted on web. Government already does this with outfits like the environment agency
11. NHS computer to be dumped and existing contracts wioth BT Fujitsu and others to be reviewed and monies clawed back.
12. John Lewis list scrapped.
13. All councils to have proper snow clearing equipment.
14. nationwide yellow school buses, private cars (school runs banned or special premuim road fund tax)
15. Railway fares to be pegged at a level 2% below French Railways
16. VAT reduced to 7.5 per cent
Won’t happen but who knows…..
250 MP’s jumping ship ? What do you think…
Er, re point 1:
Have you seen petrol prices in France? Total on the peage were showing €1.35 for 95 sansplomb last time I looked. Might be able to shave 10 cents off that @ Carrefour. Diesel’s a tad under a € but hauliers show it as a business cost so relative tax rates make a difference.
If you want to make a case for pegging fuel costs Spain’d be a better bet. 10-15 cents lower than France.
Nothing for you to worry about then…
An “arbitrary deletion policy” is not really a policy at all, is it?
To be fair what would you choose;
If your not going to work or be proud or recognise this countries heritage and laws, a one off payment to go back to your country of orgin as favoured by the shall not be named party
or
Come over and spend your days relaxing on the dole don’t worry about finding work, break any law you like and incite as much hate as you like don’t worry the mugs who where born here will pay for you as favoured by Labour
Not withstanding the stats quoted, I wonder how many voters even look at a party’s web site of what ever colour. I don’t think there is any direct correlation between web traffic and voters intentions.
BNP will more than likely draw most of its support from NU Liebour supporters, it has always been so, Oswald Mosely and the BUF’s in the 1930’s draw a lot of support from Lonndon Dockers for instance.
We have four BN P District Councillors that look frighteningly like the Munsters. I do employ one to do odd jobs though. He’s cheeper than a Pole but not as bright,
I thought you were in shanghai?
I am. Still have a house in the UK though and still need the gardening done.
If you had said “cheaper than a Sri Lankan” that would have been considered racist – yet we are free to disdain and insult the majority race out of some “anal” desire to please a corrupt system. Favouring one’s own, as opposed to hurting them does not sound all that bad. It is Cuckoos that lay their eggs in others’ nests.
Guido
A small point, but are you sure these aren’t for last December? The right hand column includes myjoyonlone/elections at the bottom of the list. That is a Ghanaian radio station site which got a lot of hits for its live coverage of the elections in December (I was on it, and I am actually in Ghana now).
But I can’t think of any reason why that elections site would still get such a high volume of hits in April.
No. Nutter.
How mature to call people you don’t agree with “nutter”. You might not agree with Craig Murray’s politics, but you make yourself look pathetically infantile.
What a way to treat people who read your blog
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That’s told the party-that-must-not-be-named then, Guido.
Not getting a bit worried that all this fuss might be leading towards English voting for parties that don’t hate the English, are you? Private schools all round (Normandy-on-Thames).
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any mention of the spodes sure brings the lunatics out in force.
Well you’ve turned up!
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Well I am sorry Talwin but my reply to you has been moderated even though I have not mentioned any spacific political party
SO MUCH FOR FREE SPEECH
No free speech on this site. I replyed to your great post above and it was removed, as it was for the British National Party and not against.
More humiliatingly, people would rather look at pictures of cats with captions than read Comment is Free.
You said it yourself Guido;
“It appears to be true that they have the highest traffic of any official website of any UK political party.”
That is what they claim. It is true. You’re getting as sad and desperate as those at The Times. Have another Guiness you fat bstard and chill.
Doesn’t give them an excuse to be bigoted racist twats though do is it ?
While you seem to suffer from a humour free semantic anal malady little spode.
Why don’t you chug down some good old British Carlsberg and chill ?
Though the B&P could alienate all those who support the Queen, Monarchy and the Church of England too for a laugh.
Nothing like pissing off the very British Institutions you are laughably trying to claim you represent.
You should take more water with it.
Oh dear! Have you had a bad day at the orifice?
Devastating trolling by the twats in the cheap seats.
Try harder little spodes.
You are a detestable tiny minority who will have 5 minutes of fame in the Headlines and immediately and correctly written off and ignored as nothing more than a protest vote against the piggies. And that will be your high watermark for the rest of your miserable racist lives.
I’m having a lovely day thanks.
By all means,feel free to jump up and down and throw your dummy out the pram. voting for any any of the usual suspects is a vote for no change
So what’s the worse that can happen? The BNP get a handful ofseats at the Euro’s & a couple in the General. Tops They’re not going to be running the country. (& FFS don’t start on about 1933 & all that, the situation’s not the same, will not be the same.)
The BNP policies are from that place in the political merry-go-round where the left & right meet. Round the back. But let’s for the sake of argument call them right wing. Net result on the front side is that the mean of political discourse moves slightly to the right. Would that be such a bad thing bearing in mind the amount of unreconstructed Marxists lurking on the Labour back benches & at the BBC.
So we get a dose of Nick Griffin xenophobia every so often. So what? Multiculturalism’s a political position not a law of nature. Or would be if anyone had the nerve to debate it. A coffee coloured nation where we all sing in purrfect harmoy is no more inevitable than stormtroopers & The Horst Wessel Lied. Somewhere there’s a compromise position where most of us can muddle along. But why can’t the out & out racists have a say in what that is? They’ve got to live in it too.
The Brighton National Promenade party will poll its highest-ever vote next month.
Before floating out to sea and sinking.
Is anyone voting for Re-specced?
I understand their programme includes hairdressing and gardening lessons at every mosque.
Cost of websites.
You will recall that your friend Draper trousered £100,000 from his Union mates to set up his loonyleft website. (Don’t know if he paid it back though).
Just goes to show that there’s one ( or many) born every minute.
Does this mean you’re not friends any more?
When I put the name of my French bank into google, does that make the Guardian think I’m looking up the BNP? http://www.bnpparibas.com
I note BNP sponsors the french open which is underway. Does this get reported as a French branch of the British National Party?
I think we should be told.
Would Guido like to take over running the Guardian comment is Free site, and if so how would he improve it and get more traffic?
mor boobies boose an bush
bmp is top
geedo says lies
You arrogant Hoon
As that Tory MEP pointed out on QuestionTime, BNP have 0.02% of council seats and 0.0% of the seats at Westminster. It’s all part of the fear game “WARNING BNP INVASION IMMINDENT!”, You’d think the trucks were pulling up outside with inflatable goose-stepping guard towers as we speak!
OK so the BNP play on people’s fears about immigration, but with real life stories like the one below is it any surprise that it works?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_VRB9On90k (aussie jodi dawes deported after 23 hour flight to uk for childhood friends wedding)
I think the BNP vote is an inverse barometer for how bankrupt and out of touch a government is so don’t be suprised if they do well!