New Left-Wing Pressure Group Supports MP Recall
38 Degrees, the UK version of MoveOn has finally launched. It has no formal link to MoveOn, but is advised by one of the MoveOn team. MoveOn was itself an online campaign launched to shore up the Clinton presidency when Matt Drudge mired slick Willy in scandal and possible impeachment over his lying about Monica Lewinsky.
The campaign is however keen to not be seen as pro-Labour, in truth it is not a Labour project, it is however of the progressive left-of-centre aiming to “advance fairness, defend rights, promote peace, preserve the planet and deepen democracy in the UK”. The holding company behind it is called Progressive Majority, which gives the game away. The leading figure is David Babbs, who comes from Friends of the Earth, in fact most of the leading figures and finance are from the green movement. Blue State Digital UK did the website, which is a cut above the usual with fancy but meaningless imagery.
Sunny Hundal’s Liberal Conspiracy was originally spun as a MoveOn type operation when it launched, he is giving a grudging welcome to the group this morning. Guido agrees with Sunny that the name is not brilliant, but wishes them best of luck with their first campaign – a recall law for MPs. Anything that weakens the power of politicians and strengthens the power of the people…
“advance fairness, promote peace, preserve the planet”
I want them to crash and burn horribly already.
and have a huge carbon footprint
Carbon footprint : the filthy mark left in the middle of your new living-room carpet after the chimney-sweep has done his business.
You do not create a Carbon footprint if you lecture nobodies about them! FACT!
Bought a £4.50 electric kettle from Sainsburys which was made and shipped from China. Before I even Plugged it in the kettle must have a carbon footprint the size of a garden shed. If I boiled a kettle on a coal fire for the next year it would probably be the same carbon footprint.
This movement is nothing more than yet another bunch of politically motivated clowns pretending they know how the Internet works and trying to herd the general public into their political movement. I notice that one of their board members is in charge of fundraising for the American Democratic Party. I don’t think the British people will be very impressed. Is this another of Obama’s online get-rich quick schemes? It doesn’t sound to me like they have a coherent objective otherwise.
Labour is nearly extinct.
Hats off to these tree-hugging beardy-weirdies for at least getting that much right, I suppose.
Global Warming, Carbon Footprint is total cock. If they can’t even tell me what the weather is going to be like next Saturday, how the hell do they expect me to believe what they think it’s going to be in twenty years?
Trees NEED CO2 to produce oxygen. It is your duty to buy the most powerful V8 engined car, park next to a tree and rev the bollocks off it. That way you can be green by feeding a tree.
Damn straight. You tell em Sir!
Fuck fairness, peace and the planet! What have they done for me lately ?
and they will!
Socialism is unfair!
Socialism is violent!
and Socialism is VERY VERY bad for the environment (see Warsaw pact countries for examples).
No,no,no,no NO!
If you are in favour of fairness, peace or the planet you are a Communist or a Fascist or a shirtifter. Let’s not shilly shally around. Bloody amateurs.
It’s all a bit airy fairy but I can’t see anything in that statement a thinking person would actually disagree with? Fairness is a good thing…. Peace is certainly better than living in a warzone…. I’d rather live on a planet that isn’t something out of Wall-E. It’s a shame it’s just marketing speil instead of something useful.
Fairness is a good thing….
It all depends on who defines what fair is.
Fairness is easily defined. Anything I want is fair. Q.E.D.
Our Masters will tell us what’s “fair”, so that’s that settled.
Fair = redistribution of wealth in Zanulab speak.
Socialism doesn’t redistribute wealth it destroys wealth.
Eco-fascists are not good news. Give me 600 corrupt MPs any day. At least they are not doing it for my own good.
Yeah. Just leave us alone.
yes JD they should be promoting illegal war / troughing / theft and troughing like The Labor-Atives
I’ve never quite grasped the concept of a ‘legal war’. It sounds rather like a ‘caring paedophile.’ The purpose of war is to assert your will by violence. It is not a matter of jurisprudence.
I am sure that legal war is when you have no choice but to defend yourself and your family from attack. As far as attacking Countries on information that was tortured out of individuals to justify said war then it most certainly must be illegal. When will we see some government official or Politician take the drop for this most expensive of mistakes. Any one have a tally of the cost to the exchequer
No, you’re thinking of a ‘just war’, i.e. a justifiable war. The concept of ‘legal war’ or ‘illegal war’ implies some kind of supranational jurisprudence. Supporters of the idea think that the United Nations has such an oversight but it does not, either in a formal sense or especially in a moral sense.
“advance fairness, promote peace, preserve the planet”
That soundbite sounds like it comes straight from those lovable Eurocrats in Brussels.
I wonder if this group have an army of foaming at the mouth do-gooders to enforce the homogenisation of the human race.
What the hell is PROGRESSIVE about Marxism.
“advance fairness, defend rights, promote peace, preserve the planet and deepen democracy in the UK”.
Advance Statism, defend Totalitarianism, promote anti-capitalism, preserve high taxes, deepen our hatred of Jews in the UK – and allow a bunch of Middle Class Marxists to enjoy all the luxuries of Global capitalism, while fantasising about world Socialism.
Might be good if they split the leftie/pinko vote further.
Hope more of these groups emerge ad infinitum.
Agreed.
Bloody hippies.
Oh dear, another bunnyhugging, Guardian reading talking shop.
Just what we need!!
The only talking shops we need are far-right talking shops that masquerade as liberatarian talking shops. Like this one.
Nutter.
No, honest!
Unusual for you to intervene, Mr F. What has this guy done that Thick as Thieves and Master Baiter have failed to do? I thought threats of physical violence were worse than unkind remarks about the website.
Surely the correct term you are looking for is “crazy as a Madine Dotties” ?
Referring to GuidOrc Oaf as an ugly large bellied Libararian that is committed, is not a threat of violence.
Please do not indulge in unfounded allegations and smears.
You may go.
I would not copy thick as thieves lines if I were you Master Baiter.
He will probably bash your brains out if you do.
Think up your own stuff.
That will be all.
Is a ‘liberatarian’ something like a ‘librarian’?
Are Rastafatarians allowed on here?
Offer him a banana, that’ll give you a clue.
“Is a ‘liberatarian’ something like a ‘librarian’?”
Almost certainly: ‘Labour Party’ is a dyslexic’s onamatapaeic anagram of ‘Lavatory’
“Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it”.
Best not tell call me Dave as he is already trying to court the Guardian today.
It’s only a matter of time before Dave gives 38 degrees an interview about the deadly threat posed to us all by wisteria and vines around his chimney.
Better a charm offensive before he chops their legs off.
Yes, Dave buttering up the Guardian is just like when Blair cuddled up to the Daily Mail to win middle class votes.
The interesting thing is that Mr Cameron believes he needs left wing votes to win the election and he is quite right to think that because he has repelled so many natural tory voters that he has shattered the middle class consensus Blair’s smarmy torylike attitude achieved.
In the meantime the lunatic Gordon Brown is chasing the right wing vote instead of concentrating on retaining and regaining the left wing majority in this country.
Brown just keeps chasing shadows. I have no idea why people keep saying Gordon Brown is very intelligent when time and time again he proves himself to be so stupid.
Go figure.
Indeed. Looks like Gordon is outsourcing quango generation.
Don’t you silly little people realise that democracy is dead and we are entering the post-democratic age?
Now go back to your miserable little lives, let us do your thinking for you and do as you are told.
Eastenders will be on later.
Guido does my thinking for me so that proves you wrong.
Common Purpose – have you ever kissed a girl? Have you? Come on, have you? Your momma doesn’t count – well, only counting her tricks at the end of her shift eh?
That was one of the least amusing or interesting comments I have ever seen on a blog (that includes this comment).
‘Post Democratic Age’ Don’t you mean Stalinism nice and quietly like, via the back door? The plebs that we are seem to be sleepwalking into it as well. Oh joy.
Amen to that, 254
All very nice but not very wise!
The size of the electorate percentage to trigger a recall is the obvious stumbling block. If it is too small, the constituency will stagger from crisis to crisis as competing cabals vie to destabilise the sitting MP.
This is the sort of destabilisation in which neo-nazi and trotsky type organisations revel.
You’d need at least a 30% recall vote, to ensure stability and you are not likely to get that!
No woman, no cry say I.
Right, democracy is dead man; it commit reggaecide.
Bet you wear string-backed driving gloves.
And a car-coat. And a checked cap. And I bet you have a Lagonda keyfob (for the keys to your Mondeo) which you casually toss on the bar at the pub.
You are The Hoon and I claim my £5 plus expenses.
Anything that weakens the power of politicians and strengthens the power of the people…
is about the only thing I can agree with
From a very low base how does it expect to be immediately influential?
I’d just like a simple law inserted that means any MP or Lord can be expelled and force a by-election
I can see “recall” being used too frequently in marginal seats for political purposes rather than real time issues…and more elections cost us more money as the candidates have expenses for canvassing material
“Power does not corrupt men; fools, however, if they get into a position of power, corrupt power”.
Matt Drudge mired slick Willy in scandal and possible impeachment ???
Shurely shome mishtake ?
I was under the impression it was the chubby intern who was intimately involved with the slick willy and caused this most impeachable of sex crimes.
Ahh… you mean of course Drudge broke the story and cemented his formidable reputation.
I did not have sexual relations with that money
They sound like what Chesterton called “more-water-in-your-beer socialists.”
For a raving Francophile left-footer Chesterton had some excellent turns of phrase.
This MoveOn lot (*sniff, sniff* I smell quango) can FuckOff back where they came from. I know a bully pulpit proffering cant when I see it.
Flywheel da foist? Forgive me – I’m holding Nadine’s seat till she gets here. After that she’s on her own!
“How has it happened? How has frugal, quiet Gordon Brown – nobody’s idea of a high roller – found himself so utterly outplayed by the rich boys? When the public mood is vengeful against the well-upholstered elite, why is a glossy, wealthy old Etonian cleaning up?”
Jackie Ashley is the daughter of Jack Ashley, Baron Ashley of Stoke married to “Red” Andy Marr
Jackie you are one of the “well-upholstered elite” – a fact!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/24/david-cameron-labour-election
Didn’t know Jack Ashley and Andy Marr were an item.
Don’t forget, Jackie, it’s my turn tonight and Andy doesn’t need a paper bag with me.
Brilliant, Alice. How’s the little one?
Miles better!
Don’t mention the little one, it sends Jackie into a rage! Daddy must never, ever see her….
Looks like another bunch of tree huggers who need to be shot on sight
Artex ceilings are coming back into fashion
Damn!
Artex Ceilings:
a) Were responsible for 1980s acid house raves
b) Are a classic example of the British North-South divide
c) Possibly orgasm-inducing images for women over forty
You decide.
What did Nadine say about the Barlcay brothers – and how substantive was it?
Not sure that Guido would want her drivel repeating here, when it’s caused one “take down” already. On the other hand, maybe he’d relish the fight. Guido?
If you Google “Nadine Dorries cached” you can find plenty of places to read it yourself.
But now: Nadine is blogging all over again, but those particular comments are “missing”, both from the new blog and the ‘old’, which has resurfaced.
I implore everyone to got to Dotties site as it is one of the funniest pieces of rambling horseshit you will ever read!
“My surgeries are full of people at their wits end. The redundant, the broken and the poor. I meet, see and talk to these people almost every single day.
I have been, at sometime or other, all of those people.
If I had to use one word to describe any personal quality I possess, it is loyalty.
It was shortly after reading the Saturday morning press when realising that with the Archbishops comments, that at least I had God on my side, I began to vomit.”
And that’s just a small sample. :lol:
It’s absolutely chock full of self pitying, blame everyone but poor little me for my troughing, delusional hilarity.
If only she wasn’t finished we could look forward to more of this superb comedy. Still, get it while you can!
Surgeries full of people at their wits end?
Is this woman an MP or a bloody nurse?
You’d have to be at your wits’ end to try Nadine Dorries for help. In fact, you’d probably need to be out of your wits.
Not sure that Guido would want her drivel repeating here, when it’s caused one “take down” already. On the other hand, maybe he’d relish the fight. Guido?
If you Google “Nadine Dorries cached” you can find plenty of places to read it yourself.
But now: Nadine is blogging all over again, but those particular comments are “missing”, both from the new blog and the ‘old’, which has resurfaced.
http://blog.dorries.org/images/1.jpg
Nadine surrounds herself with hotties unlike Blair, Brown, Campbell.
Ignore the power of the dark side.
That’s the whole point of centrist, authoritarian apologists. There never is anything in the blurb that a reasonable person would cavil at. Hitler didn’t gain power by stating in his election manifesto that he was going to send 13.000.000 people to concentration camps and start a war on 2 fronts. This 38 degrees is just another invidious Common Purpose scam. It has, however, singed Sunny’s beard, so some good has come out of it.
An organisation ( i use the term very loosely) of dealists, probably just out of diapers.
Comprised of pasty faced vegan “mizzes” with ideas that simply will not work in such a complex world as our own.
Save the fucking planet? What are these fuckwits on about?
The planets fine, its only been here 4 billion years, the planets not going anywhere…..we are!
Pack your shit folks, we’re goin away.
Anything with the word “lefty” attached to its descriptor can go fuck itself with a garden rake, ive had t up to my ears with lefty labour dogma, stuff the socialist agenda up your chuffers, soap dodgers!
Go on, mate. Don’t hold back, Say what you really mean!
>fuck itself with a garden rake
I’d recommend a lawn rake — the type with long, springy tines, used for raking up moss from the sward or gathering autumn leaves.
I have one made by Bulldog with a nice long handle. Am prepared to donate.
Evidently, judging from what you write, you are a dinosaur.
Pray tell, O ignorant twat, which species of dinosaur were able to write English — unlike yourself; and in which pocket of the ecosphere do specimens remain alive?
There is no written record, but it is presumed to be unlikely.
Dinosaur is a figure of speech. It is an appropriate form for the ‘ideas’ expressed by the dinosaur.
That is all.
You have been warned about ripping off thick as thieves once already today.
Final warning.
Yerrrrrs maybe so.
But as a dinosaur yourself, and judging from your moniker, Mr C. Darwin himself would have named you “Spunkasoreass”.
Want to borrow my rake now?
Peculiar.
Im wondering how Masturbater manages to type with his fingers all stuck together with copious quantities of jizz ?
His sticky paws glued to the keys is an image i simply cannot shake off…..
The offer of a rake donation to the aforementioned “Vegan Lefty Lesbian Never been with a man cos im dead scared of Penetration and would rather hug a bunny than hug a willy Party” is, it has to be said, extremely generous but such actions cannot be condoned in the current climate.
Id advise them to pay for their own, the bunch of workshy, soap dodging, erm…erm….MPS!!!
Classic leftist response to a dissenting view. If you disagree with lefto-fascism, whatever form of coercive thought control it takes, then you must be:-
a) Foaming at the mouth
b) Daily Mail reader
c) Dinosaur
d) Little Englander
e) Bedwetter
etc., etc.
All contrived to immediately de-humanise, marginalise, stigmatise, belittle and discredit anyone who disagrees with lefto-fascists like the odious Master Baiter (aka Marcus Brigstocke well known wedge-headed Labour apologist and snide innuendoist twat).
How does it feel to be a nasty free-speech suppressing fascist with a strange shaped head MB? Oh, of course, you actually think you are lefty, trendy and cool don’t you? Twat.
How does it feel? Probably like a damp, uncooked, pork and sage sausage.
You are deserving of sympathy and in need of treatment and perhaps medication.
Seriously, get some help.
Both you and Dr Mick should attend Cretins Anonymous.
You are both very dodgy characters.
Surely not the same Marcus Brigstocke who attended Westbourne House and Kings School Bruton………fee paying schools? and Bristol University -berated of late for excessive intakes from private schools?
You must be mistaken? Surely a true socialist would never take advantage like this and then proceed to lecture the rest of us because that would make them…..a hypocrite.
I am sure master baiter comes from a pure socialist background and has never had any advantages in life,so the insight we receive is worthy and based on real-life experience. Come the revolution, we will find out,as we will not be the ones taking bottled water and sushi with us to the barricades.
MB: “You are deserving of sympathy and in need of treatment and perhaps medication. Seriously, get some help.”
Proves my point doesn’t it. You cannot even contemplate the idea that people might disagree with you, let alone that you might be wrong. So what do we get? Attack the person. Imply they are mentally unbalanced – anything to undermine and suppress the dissenting view.
You are a fascist MB and you are incapable of debate or argument beyond ad hominem attacks made on the assumption that you are always right and your views are morally superior. You represent perfectly the lefto-fascism I detest and which will, God willing, be eradicated from this country one day.
Totally agree, the idiots.
Sir Mallard,
Would that be a chimney above a solid fuel fire, pumping out carbon into the atmosphere?
Unless “clearing wisteria and vines around his chimney” is a euphamism for a visit to Harley Street at the taxpayers expense, one would assume so.
The Guardian’s been going for ages and is a decent rag – Hoggart, Jenkins, Eliot, Brooker so, ya know – these bag of shites are not even in the same league. Just, ya know, don’t roll the Guardian in with this shite is alls i’m saying. Cheers.
Hands off,she’s mine!!!
Except in the case of the grossest corruption. A 30% recall vote would be very likely in a lot of constituencies at this time. You are dead right about the Authoritarians using the system to destabilise, though.
what a load of rubbish. lets concentrate on Julie Kirkbride.
Totally agree Anon. It’s better to ignore the negative and pointless serial bloggers.They are only trying to divert attention from the real issues. Their original strategy of denial has failed, so name calling is all they have left, often as abusively as possible.
The irony is,they always believe they have ‘won’ I am never sure what it is they have won but they are most welcome to it.
I, personally, have had a gutfull of Left wing apparatchiks or should it be pratchiks over the past decade or so from no smoking to id cards and feeding a world that is run by gun toting brigands and troughers. As the song goes “carry me back” to a world where this countrys’s problems are seriously addressed by a responsible government whose only interest is the welfare of its own citizens. If the likes of Brown think they can cure world poverty go forth and do it but don’t write cheques using my money spend your bloody own.
“As the song goes “carry me back” to a world where this countrys’s problems are seriously addressed by a responsible government whose only interest is the welfare of its own citizens.”
Ah, that dry British wit. Such a government may have existed in your dreams, up your ass, or on television, but never. Never. In your country.
Yes, that’s a good way to discredit the past and clear the way for the Common Purpose vision. By being cynical about the past the dystopian nightmare of the left may be disguised as “progressive”. All about “fairness” (for some), “equality” (for some) and “respect” (for some).
You just have to look at arrogant. dismissive posts by lefto-fascist twats like MB to realise this “progressive” vision does not extend to those who hold counter-revolutionary thoughts.
“All animals are equal but some are more equal than others”
All credit to the past, Elf, I think it has had some really great and representative governments. Just not in your country. You’ve never had the set-up for it.
Probably because English people like you have knees that jerk through the table whenever anybody on the left asks for a general increase in representation – just as their English knees jerk through the table whenever anybody like you asks for a more general increase in representation.
And while you’re all pissy and girly at each other because you both think each other’s requests for more general representation are dangerous and self-serving, you’ve got feck-all general representation. The same feck-all general representation you’ve always had.
Unless you want to go back to the illusory days of Anglo-Saxonia when you were wiping your bums with leaves, you won’t find anything more democratic and disinterested than the absolutely undemocratic, interested crap you’ve got now. But my guess is that’d be a bit too ‘green’ for you.
All that having been blathered, Cameron is promising interesting things about representation and I don’t think he has the balls to be telling falsehoods at this point. One lives in hope.
“Just not in your country. You’ve never had the set-up for it.”
Rubbish. You need to spend a bit more time studying English history and not swallowing the lefto-fascist garbage churned out to discredit it. Pay particular attention to the pre-Victorian concepts of English freedom – but don’t get distracted by moral differences which out of context are used to discredit them or the tsunami of recent left-influenced historical discourse which has created a mythology about class and social segregation that stereotypes groups to almost caricature-like simplifications.
Besides, your post presumes on the essential superiority of representative government which I might be inclined to challenge, if I could be bothered. Suffice it to say that you jump to the false conclusion that representation = good government = personal freedom/fulfilment. That doesn’t work in the USA and it won’t work here. I’m surprised that in the wave of nauseated disgust rightly directed at our runtish parliament the US political model is being touted so uncritically.
Only post-modern British governments are “knee-jerk” and they tend not to be English. Having English MP’s in parliament does not an English government make. In fact “knee-jerk” and English, in a historical context, is probably a non-sequitur.
Socialism’s biggest lure – the idea that things need to be reformed and/or improved to make them fairer, etc., is also their biggest con trick. They take the good and destroy it in the name of making it the best, an objective which they throw money at and legislate towards ad nauseum to no avail. The end result is that the old ideas that worked have been vandalised, the new ideas don’t work, there is no money, and we all feel like East Germans circa 1960. The greatest legacy for New Labour will be the misery and paranoia they have imposed on England and the English by destroying the very character of the nation.
You cannot expect weasely pariahs like Jack Straw to contribute to the English nation. His half-baked ideas and those of his colleagues in the mother of all crap governments are essentially destructive.
Chill.
If the lefty/eco/greens are successful (and white elephants/eyesores like turbines get subsidies, so one must assume they are) we won’t have to listen to them as there won’t be enough power to keep their blogs going (or computers on).
The only low carbon option is nuclear. We need to build at least 30 nuclear power stations to meet existing demand. And we should have started building them 10 years ago. That’s the bottom line — the rest is bollocks.
Don’t talk crap.
I second, third, and fourth that!
Then I suggest you get reading and more informed.
‘Sustainable Energy: Without Hot Air’ by David McKay is a good place to start it deals in facts, not emotive green wash or climate change denial.
Available free from:
http://www.withouthotair.com/
Bless em they have left a mobile number for us to ‘ahem’ contact them http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/s/media/
Act in haste, repent at leisure.
An MP should be automatically recalled if;
He has broken the Law.
Exempted himself from taxation Parliament has imposed on the people.
Abused the system of allowances and expenses.
A petition for recall should be national, not constituency based, and should require a minimum of 10,000 signatures.
Its not perfect, but its a start.
Perfect would be a few beheadings
That would show the hoons
and a shootgun up there arse make it pay per view wnd might make the books balance ?
Here’s another one;
Common sense should have precedence over law when reviewing judicial decisions, and such decisions should be allowed to set a legal precedent.
It must be bad if the lefties are fed up with the MP’s or are they getting prepared for the Cameron furure.
There isn’t a cameron future, only Obama lite
Sort of like the 39 steps, but with less plot.
I preferred the 3 Degrees myself.
Crap name, looks like a lentil eating talking shop.
What a pity as the ability to recall egregious representatives of any type is a good idea.
Trivia point – sand dunes form with inclines of less than 33 degrees.
Have you measured ‘em all?
I’m sure I’ve seen a 35 degreer.
so have I. every time I sees that Nadine on the plasma.
Moisture in sand can affect the angle of repose. Otherwise we couldn’t have sand castles.
Yes, WTF is it supposed to mean? 38 degrees of what? An acute angle? Centigrade? Fahrenheit? Latitude?
I am so sick of these pretentious little shits, sitting round a table and dreaming up pretentious, shitty names for stupid shitty things, like eThis and iThat, Equiniti and Consignia and WhoGivesaFuckia — they’re almost as bad as the pretentious arseholes who say things like “redaction” when they mean “censorship” … FFS “redaction” means to prepare for the press, to put into literary form, NOT to “block out great chunks of text with a black felt-tip pen so the proles can’t see what we’ve been up to” …
And while I’m at it, may I recommend immolation for anyone who says “refute” when they mean “deny”, “infer” when they mean “imply”; and a special burst of the flamethrower for our genial host and his serial commas, he has no idea, he has not heard of a semi-colon or even a full stop, it sets my teeth on edge, what school did he attend, O I know he was mind-raped by the Jesuits, that would explain a lot, my teeth are not just on edge, my systolic blood-pressure is now exceeding 200 mm of Hg, I am about to explo
we will be with you shorty sir…meanwhile try sipping a mercury cocktail with some ice..
Oh, no, DON’T call him shorty…
You forgot “disinterested” when they mean “uninterested” and misplacing plurals after subordinate clauses; otherwise I agree with you
I hate it when those fuckers on “Today” use words that are outside 99.999% of the population’s vocab, like “resile” and “outwith” (this last one is particularly annoying as they use it with the wrong meaning).
You also forgot the word ” Inclusive” which means anyone but you and me unless we decide to change our colour or religion or sexual preferences to something deemed more worthy by the ZanuElite.
.llame’kcuF
“Nurse!”
Oi! You leave me out of this!
And what about RENDITION? They, (particularly Jack Straw), know perfectly well that it doesn’t mean return; surrender: give: melt: extract: etc etc., but means to them – take away by force: torture: imprison: make to vanish: Nulabour have constantly miss-used words to cover up and ameliorate the
sinister true meaning of their actions/intentions. USA are complicit with us in
this miss-use of language.
Just who is stumping up the cash for this bunch Hoons?
SAVE THE FUCKING PLANET???????????????/
The sheer fucking arrogance
I doubt if anyy of these pasty faced sanctimonious arseholes could find their own arses with hands, never had or will ever have a real job but say they will save the planet.
Useless wankers
Tough on wisteria tough on the causes of wisteria
“That will be £68 guv, want a receipt?”
“yes please but please but please leave a gap after the 8″
I am pleased some one has the measure of these Hoons. Well done Bishop.
They call themselves charities to ‘highlight’ various issues…
First a logo, then a website, then a presentation to the EU, UN, quango or anyone else who’ll listen with the cash… then the funding which ensures we all pay for their job which isn’t actually to do anything, it’s more or less to swan around at home pontificating on the web or attend meetings all over the world (expenses paid).
Nice work if you can get it.
Before this eco-shit, one Co2 emitting garbage truck per week to empty one wheely bin. Now convoys of them to take segregated bottles, paper, household waste all spewing out Co2 and all driving to the same land-fill site.
Bollocks, bollocks and more bollocks.
Eco-freaks flying to seminars all over the world to tell us plebs about the environmental disaster to planet earth caused by flying.
Bollocks, bollocks and more bollocks.
There are one billion Indians and one billion Chinese who want electricity all waiting to buy cars, what are we, the architect of the industrial revolution going to tell them: “Don’t do what we’ve fcuking done for the past 100 years”
Bollocks, bollocks and more bollocks.
The Left doesn’t have a monopoly of sanctimonious,hypocritical claptrap but boy, it sure has cornered the market with 99.9% of it.
Johnny Foreigner can have electricity – all we need to do is change a few light bulbs into those that give off a Dickensian glow. All’s right with the world.
From David MacKay: “the energy saved by turning off TV standby and mobile phone chargers for one year is equivalent to that used in the first second your car engine’s running”.
A trans-Atlantic flight is the same as if you’d run a hot bath and left it running for one year before turning off the bath tap.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1179732/DAVID-MACKAY-How-125-light-bulbs-end-energy-crisis.html
Actually, the correct statement is : The energy saved by switching off a phone charger for ONE DAY is the same as the energy used by driving a car for ONE SECOND.
(Switching TVs and stereos and DVD players off is a different matter, and much more worthwhile doing.)
PS Read more for free at http://www.withouthotair.com
Don’t worry! Nulab have the answer to all the problems! They’re building windfarms!
Labour are doing a lot to minimise the UK’s CO2 emissions.
Their energy policy for the last 12 years means that we will soon be returning to 19th C. levels of electricity generation, and will go some way to off-setting the 2 coal-powered stations the Chinese are opening each week.
This may limit your ability to read and comment on sites like this in the future, but a small price to pay to save the planet, isn’t it?
Anyone want to buy some paraffin lamps?
yup
you complain too much bentkopper.
have you not paused to think of the battallions of administrators engaged in the scheduling of all these fine vehicles, the management of the staff, the advertisement campaigns?
Bin content monitoring and fines, enforcement & imprisonment are just the next develpomment stages of the reprogramming of this new world order.
this is a real success story under the Neu deception party!
you will appreciate that openness and transparency was upheld in the decision process which included our own OGC-appointed private consultant recommendations.
Remember all the promises of a bright new future the Left has promised since 1945?And what happened to them?Now for the good news:
The Wintertons are going
In 9 days time we get some sort of an election
The bad news:
Nadine is back blogging
Gordelpus is still “Prime Minister”
The numerous crooks in his government are still there
she can blog me anytime. just as long as the wife’s not around.
Brown can’t tackle this behaviour as he does not have the moral leadeship. Those in Glass houses. Well guess what they are all living in a fucking Green house shiting themselves in case any stones get thrown
OT but I know people are interested, and it’s a bit more relevant than ‘First’:
Mc Bride is on the broo – official. Response to my (second) FoI request to the Cabinet Office:
“Special Advisers are appointed as temporary civil servants. Mr McBride resigned with immediate effect and is no longer a civil servant or a member of the civil service.
I hope this clarifies matters.
Paul Ballinger
Propriety and Ethics Team
Cabinet Office”
New Labour have an ethics team? The mind boggles.
They had to have an ethics team to stop them all going to jail. These individuals have no moral compass of their own. ( Iv’e done nothing wrong brigade) Thats what pedophiles say when they have been messing around with a Two year old.
An ethnics team comprised of lawyers?
Well done. Of course, not all public ’servants’ are civil servants, they just get paid by the public.
“Anything that weakens the power of politicians and strengthens the power of the people”
Guido….Off-topic, but the politicians are selling away their power and ours through the Lisbon Treaty whilst we all fret over duck ponds and toilet seats!
We have got to get rid of Labour and Brown now and push for this election before October. Brown is just quietly hanging in there.
Just another bunch of fascists. Using same lingo as Nu lab a decade ago. Yawn. Not falling for same trick twice. Thanks. Am sick of phrase restore FAITH. You have faith in God/s not men. Especially not sociopaths. Luton is the beginning of something. You are now witnessing the very niave beginnings of a popular mass movement. The old way will destroyed. The prime direction of the subconcious is survival. We must now fight to save our VERY existence as a people. Next year the inflation will hit like a tidal wave AND ALL BETS ARE OFF! You marxist/fascist scum are in big trouble. The French revolution will look like a picnic. Run rabbit run, rabbit run, run, run! I can’t wait to see the looks on the think tank/NGO and politicians faces when the mob runs after them down the street. Have you ever felt REAL fear?
Calm down dear – it’s only a bunch of spotty teens telling us what to do.
Lesson 1 – How to knit your own Muesli
Lesson 2 – How to use leftover Muesli to make shoes for the Third World
Lesson 3 – How to use the remains of the Muesli to make concrete
Don’t forget the Crystal Weaving!
I thought it was “knit your own yoghurt” – but on reflection you could be right. Yoghurt would make bloody awful concrete.
Everybody knows how to do that! You could use yog with the meusli for a softer concrete mix. It would depend who you are trying to bury under it.
I thought it was knit their own armpits for the female of the species.
Yes, we’re too old to know it all.
Isn’t 38 degrees the medical threshold for fever requiring immediate medical intervention?
The “We’re sick and we need looking after party”
Is “If I ruled the World” Soros pulling the strings again?
I’m really not convinced we need MPs or Parliament as we currently have them.
80% of laws now come from the EU – we don’t need 646 bloodsuckers to do the gold-plating which could be done by a small firm of specialist lawyers for all the democracy we would sacrifice.
Many MPs hardly turn up at the House at all. Many others just clock in and toddle off for an early subsidised lunch – with wine. Except that they don’t clock in – now there’s something that could be changed.
Most constituency matters are handled by staff – do you really think your MP actually deals with correspondence?
The various committees they are on are in reality just ways of conning the taxpers for sandwiches and coffee. They are used as a convenient meeting place for MPs to make personal and business deals with other MPs and exchange gossip about party manoeuverings. Hours and hours of twaddle and stenography result in not one iota of democratic benefit. Where there is real need for discussion it should be done via the web and involve everyone interested.
All that pomp and ceremony – scrap that for a start. An unnecessary luxury that gives proceedings the false appearance of dignity and history. It was synthetic from the start and now looks ridiculous. Black Rod? Should be in porn, not in the Commons.
Without the pomp and circumstance there will be nothing to justify the massive maintenance costs of a creaking old building. Sell that off to the private sector (yes, you know you can do it) and lease a new building in Docklands. Better still, get the whole charade out of London’s hair (crime rates would fall) and move the caravan on to Birningham, or Bradford. Or Luton. Won’t need to be a big building as the scale-down will be severe.
As for the Lords, bugger them too.
About 35% of UK legislation originates from EU directives. Strange but true.
I appreciate it is Wikipedia but Hans-Gert Pottering has claimed that “75% of European legislation comes from the EU”.
Sounds like anarchy to me.Best if we fix our system rather than destroy it out of pique.We need a government that will take back law making from Brussels and put us in the same position as Switzerland and Norway.
It’s a myth that we constantly need rafts of new laws.
Agreed. Too much unconsidered change leads to unintended consequences. The botched reforms of the House of Lords over the past ten years are a case in point. It took something that was all wrong in theory but worked rather well in practice, and replaced it with another trougher’s paradise in which legislation could be bought if you greased the right palms.
Call Me Dave has floated some ideas about strengthening Parliament and it’s scrutiny of Government. This seems rather more proportionate and appropriate. (It boggles my mind that Britain is in the grip of the worst economic crisis in living memory, and the House has been sent on an extended recess because it has insufficient business! Why no major debates about the nation’s situation?)
Our basic institutions of government are sound, subject to the odd tweek here and there. If we need major reform, it is with the EU (preferably by the simplest and cheapest route – leaving it), and the removal of wholly unnecessary Regional Assemblies.
‘unconsidered change’?
You really think the raping of the Lords was unconsidered? You really think Blair and Mandelson didn’t know what they were trying to do?
Go away and think about it again. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing. Ensuring that, in time, the Lords became a patsy to the executive in the same way as backbenchers have become lobby fodder.
I still think it was unconsidered. The legislation was subjected to so much modification and forced compromise that the result was not what was intended. The only way Nulab have achieved any ‘control’ over the Lords is by the crude method of stuffing it with placemen.
Nulab’s attempted attack on the Lords will come back to bite them on the backside.
Haven’t checked lately but didn’t Belgium (sorry, 10p in the swear box) carry on just fine for quite some time without any goverment at all ?
When I worked in the civil service, the office ran best when the boss wasn’t there to interfere and “manage” us.
We got on with the job, the office ran smoothly and efficiently, and because there was less stress, there were no mistakes.
I suspect absence of Government would have the same effect.
What would go wrong if they weren’t there, or were only there one day a week with commensurate pay and expenses?
And Israel!
One of the joys of Belgium, a wonderful country, is that the Wallies and the Flems are so busy fighting each other that they leave the population in peace!
No. However, it did continue to function with unwavering crapitude.
If we are forced to stay in the EU then we don’t need any MP’s as we will be shoved into those regions the EU wants,get rid of them and sell the HOC site and get rid of most of the civil service around it we will save billons,if we get out of the EU (I hope) we only need a few honest MP’s in a small site with a very small civil service say by Birmingham and sell the HOC site for billions,history and traditiion can go to hell if it saves us taxpayers money
‘Most constituency matters are handled by staff – do you really think your MP actually deals with correspondence?’
A bit harsh. Some actually do. Mine often does deal with correspondence himself. But then he’s lived in the constituency all his life, and unlike alot of MPs thinks it’s his job to help his constituents, rather than himself. One of the few good guys I think.
Yes, who needs a sovereign parliament, elected by the people of this country to represent our interests, when all those lovely un-elected troughing commissioners in Brussells and those lovely, open transparent guys in the Whitehall Civil Service, plus a few fat twats in red braces in the City, and a few Yanks from the CIA and the State Department, can continue to make all our decisons for us.
Allowing the people a say in their government, what a quaint idea, how 20th Century.
And indeed, who needs Britain, or England? Scotland? Wales or Ulster? Sell it all off to the corporations.
War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.
All men are equal, some are just more equal that others.
I Love Big Brother!!!
On the other hand, you could feck off back to dogging, ‘dogger’, and let the people who actually give a shit about this country and how it is run, try and sort things out.
You are a tad late. All of the above is already in place. You could of course rant and swear a bit, that will help.
“All of the above is already in place”.
No? Really? Hold the front page.
You think I hadn’t already twigged that? And you think that by totally giving up on one of the few possible mechanisms that we have hold our ‘dear leaders’ to account is a good idea, do you?
And, if you’re going to have a pop at me for swearing, um, then why don’t you criticise 99 out of 100 other posts on this often rather crude blog?
I leave to others to judge whether you are lacking a sense of irony.
“let the people who actually give a shit about this country and how it is run, try and sort things out”
That would be the MPs, then, Labour troll?
Funny that, on the Graun’ they think I’m a Tory…
But there is no way I could ever vote for ZaNu Liebore PLC. I warned people about them in 1997 and got laughed at.
And to answer your question, thanks to the fallout from the expenses scandal, hopefully it will be the Voters, the people, not braindead spineless lobby fodder sorting out this country.
But there are some decent MPs, but only a few. And I think that the Telegraph is doing a great job. We might well see some real reforms that bring some positive change to this country. I hope we see loads of independents in parliament after the next GE.
Just becasuse I beleive we should radically reform, not scrap Westmenister, it doesn’t make me a partisan troll. Numpty.
The main trick of a troll is to take the original post and deliberately misread it, crafting a response calculated to inflame. Less intelligent trolls may care to add in an ad-hominem attack to make sure their effort is not overlooked. Subsequent responses from the troll may be entirely contradictory to their earlier attempts as they work out their passive-agressive frustrations through any means but reasonable argumemt.
So, guilty as charged, then!
How exactly have I misread your post, Dogger? You want to scrap Parliament and sell it off to Docklands. Wow, what a great democrat you are. Not.
But no, instead of responsing to my thoroughly reasonable points, you simply brand me a “troll”.
You gave yourself the risque name. I merely lampooned it. Bit cheap of me though, so I apologise.
There is a helluva lot of really raw commentary on here, I merely used a few expletives. Would seem to be in keeping with general tone.
If I haven’t been able to make my leanings in my earlier posts, then that’s my fault, I agree. Basically I don’t think we should scrap the state, but reform the bejaysus out of it. I see Call-me-Dave is putting forth some interesting propsals on reform, which, given that he’s likely to be the next PM, seem rather interesting. nad more likely of being implemented than your nonsensical rantings.
Passive agressive? Again, in keeping with the tone on here, one might say. Also, I live in Blighty under Nu labour – enough to make anyone pissed off, I’d have thought.
Dogger,
The main give away with trolls is that they never answer questions they just blether on with their fixed points of propaganda reference.
So let us test you, to see if you are a troll.
What do you think about millionaires claiming housing benefit?
This will be fun!
Troll Killer aka Master Baiter, could you please be more specific about your question? No millionaire would be able to claim “benefits”. What benefit?
Is this just another save Snotty outing,get all those signatures take them to snotty at 10 Drowning Strasse in a blaze of PR, handed to our beloved leader full of snot dribbling down his nose and he says we will impliment it,but the small print means as soon as we have taken it around the country on one of those million pound a throw boozeups and a comittee how taken 50 years to look into the idea.
At least we would save money on the ones that might get elected – some chance – as they would only be paid the same as their dole money, being ‘proper’ socialists.
There are far too many young people unemployed, we need another world war.
Yes, yes yes we promise in our manifesto it will be an environmentally-friendly world war, all dead bodies will be disposed of in green wheely bins.
Give me a bell, Gordon, I’ll do anything I can to help.
Can I reverse the charges, we’re a bit hard up here.
This quote seals it for me.
‘Barack Obama’s victory was inspirational not just because of Obama himself, but also because of how he won. It was a victory for thousands and thousands of people who got involved in the campaign.’
Not a victory for who has the most money then?
Still he has closed Guantanamo like he said he would. Oh wait…..
It never ceases to amaze how many ways the human race can invent to try and sell us the same old nonsense.
Many of those useful idiots are now discovering just what a conman and a fraudster Obama really is.
One Big Asseed Mistake America
Yes – and so is Kim Il Jong – hence this weekends nuke test
What a brave fellow you are!
So brave that you slag off The President of the United States but so cowardly you are too afraid to post a name.
You have just made a complete fool of yourself.
Good job!
Yes. I too was inspired. I too am grateful. Now I can have hope again. Thank you, President Barbarella…
While Cameron is busy dealing with the miscreants in his own party, what is Brown doing about all the Labour crooks, including several in his cabinet?
The difference between Cameron, the man of action, and Brown, the dithering coward, is becoming stark.
Bill Wiggin de Frigging in der Rigging MP (Con) is grateful for David Cameron’s look the other way policy since Wiggin (de Frigging in der Rigging) claimed for a non existent mortgage twenty three times, maxed his additional costs allownce several years and has no receipts. It stinks, no?
Julie Kirkbride is grateful too for Cameron’s look the other way approach. But she won’t slip away thanks to News of the World (Murdoch).
As for Andrew MacKay (spirit of figs) he banned the press from his ‘open’ meeting then claimed he had support in the meeting. Thanks to a mobile phone his lies were exposed.
By the way let’s find out about Madshipmann Dananan Hanananan’s MEP expenses shall we? Will he disclose past and future expense claims?
Aye aye Flipper!
They say if you do it too much you go blind. So true.
MacKay’s retiring had nothing at all to do with the meeting!!!
Did you not hear Dave tell us so ? It must be true.
And we really don’t care about Michael Gove so stop going on about him.
9 of the Labour cabinet are getting the taxpayer to pay for their tax avoidance advice. They have flipped and flipped again to max expenses and and avoid paying tax. Disgusting, hypocritical, contemptible, tight-fisted, cheating, lying scum the lot of them.
Dave has fired or forced to resign the most egregious examples – clear, strong leadership.
As usual, Brown has dithered and done nothing. Brown is pathetic; no guts, no vision, unable to make decisions – a dysfunctional, weird little control freak.
Cameron has a lot of house cleaning to do.
The only people he has persuaded to stand down at the next election are old. They are and were referred to widely as the ‘bed blockers’.
As for younger members Gove and Wiggin (de Frigging in der Rigging) and others, not a dickie bird. It is not convincing at all. Where is the Conservative ’screw tinny panel van’, what has it produced? Who is on it, what is it’s remit?
Cabinet members claiming for tax advice on their office expenses has been rebutted clearly. Attempts by arch tax evader Lord Ashcroft’s sweaty, greasy faced team of half wits at ‘Tax Payers Alliance’ to conflate valid expense claims and tax deductions for accountant’s fees are nothing more than hamfisted spin.
Dr Feelgood swallow away, swallow away.
But remember one swallow doesn’t make a summer.
38 degrees is the average temperature of a steaming pile of horse shit!
That’s the temperature in Brown’s bunker.
Also the temperature of the bucket of piss which they are as wet as.
They claim to be driven by issues and outcomes.
post seen elsewhere
NO NOVICE WOULD ASPIRE TO BE AS GOOD AT RUNNING BUDGET DEFICITS AS BROWN
perhaps the libdems or conservatives can use it as a oneliner in their campaigns
It is surely time to move on, friends.
Any Labour blogsite should be called 180 degrees.
U-tube if you want too, U-turn cause we have too.
The Sun is going after the Euro pigs
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2448374/MEPs-massive-expenses-revealed-by-Sun.html
They are in a completely different class, mudbaths and all and they don’t need a receipt for anything. They make the Wesminster pigs look like petty pickpockets and shoplifters.
I want to be an MEP – where do I sign?
Between shoplifters and shirtlifters, whether in political or religious institutes, whether behind bars or on the streets, any individual with authority over us, be it bribery, corruption, abuse, etc., has only ever been elevated to the position in which “the system” has made it possible, as a direct consequence of MONEY.
If Belgium managed with a government, could we operate without money?
If so, we could live without fear, anger, violence, threat of Nuclear war, terrorists (real or imaginary), bad politicians, rotten priests, no teachers & no Skool!
Time for a new way of living folks.
Haven’t you missed out the 18 phantom MEP’s who will do screw all and get paid doing it
http://devilskitchen.me.uk/
It’s a series of tubes…..
You English are too disinterested in politics to bring down a government. But your economy will do it for you. Compare:
price of imported goods into Britain rose 8.1% between Mar 08 and Mar 09; between Apr 08 and Apr 09 the price of imported goods into Germany fell by 8.6%.
Your economy is built on inflation and rip-off pricing. The ordinary British person is and will be crucifed by the inflation being stoked up by currency weakness and money printing. Only until you find yourselves in a near-Iceland situation – with prices of staple goods doubling within a few months and luxury goods being only affordable by the truly rich – will you finally react. And then it will be everone for themselves as your social fabric is alreay rent asunder. At least the Icelandics could fall back on a community spirit.
Our communities fall back onto Coronation St,Jeremy Kyle and any crap thats on tv.
Bread and Circuses mate – as old as time itself – there is a sizeable proportion of our citizenry that have been weaned on trashy soaps and dumbed-down TV. If those sort of communities EVER existed THEY ceased to be in the 1970’s !!!!! Their greatest aspiration in life is to be a “Celebrity” without actually having an ounce of talent or having to work for it ! Welcome to Brown’s Britain circa 2009 – poor education and few opportunities other than for the privilged few and THAT includes those on the left too not just so called posh Tories !!!
Most of the fuckers don’t work, their parents never worked and their grandparents never worked either. They live on dole cheques and they don’t care about inflation ‘cos the dole cheque will increase in line with it.
That is a very harsh statement to make about David Cameron and his freeloading family.
You horrible person, Dave’s a lovely chap!
Apart from when he is defrauding the taxpayer by making false housing benefit claims of course.
Colonel, I can see nothing wrong with David Cameron, the millionaire, defrauding the British taxpayer by making false housing benefit claims.
Nothing wrong at all.
He should claim far more than two thousand pounds per month to maintain his millionaire portfolio of properties and the taxpayer should just shut up and pay up.
David has an extravagant lifestyle, he deserves every single penny he steals.
The crisis was started in America , so sod off back to the White House and barack somebody else.
If these numbers are correct, then this is truly frightening. I expected and suspect inflation is the real monstor awaiting around the corner, but was unaware that it was upon us already.
With a currency down 20-30% against competition, Oil prices possibly doubling in the medium term and same Oil prices set in dollars …. so where’s the threat of deflation above inflation ?
I truly hope we are both wrong.
UK official import price data:
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/pdfdir/trd0509.pdf
Table 3 ‘VOLUME AND PRICE INDICES (TRADE IN GOODS)’
Germany official import data:
http://www.destatis.de/jetspeed/portal/cms/Sites/destatis/Internet/EN/press/pr/2009/05/PE09__198__614,templateId=renderPrint.psml
‘The index of import prices decreased by 8.6% in April 2009 from the corresponding month of the preceding year. This was the highest price decline since March 1987 (–10.4%).’
many UK industrial companies are already selling goods in Euros
we can leave the pound for the public sector employees
Uninterested, you bastard. Disinterested means having no financial involvement in a dispute or transaction.
We can (and will have to) raise interest rates.
Why?
The country cannot afford to pay its present borrowings so why on earth would you suggest increasing the rate of interest which would increase the cost of government spending and cost to the taxpayer?
You’re mad.
38 degrees
Is that Celsius or Fahrenheit?
centigrade
kelvin
Kevin..shurely
Aw come off it these are left wing toutchy feely tofu loving,sandal wearing EU lovers how do you think they are going to screw the rest of the world without it and yes centigrade still not hot enough to burn them in hell.
No, Mathematics.
It is 5 degrees better than Freemasonry.
Celsenheit?
As above…
…so below.
The campaign is however keen to not be seen as pro-Labour, in truth it is not a Labour project, it is however of the progressive left-of-centre aiming to “advance fairness, defend rights, promote peace, preserve the planet and deepen democracy in the UK”.
Yes, Guido. This is clearly not connected with Labour as advance fairness, defend rights, promote peace, preserve the planet and deepen democracy in the UK… is nothing the Labour Party would have any truck with.
Meanwhile…
PM warned to clean up the sleaze” It is to be wondered what today will bring, let alone the rest of the week. At one time the missing RAF personnel record would have been the big ‘government’ story. But not under the present circumstances. That’s just part of the running tap of sleaze, waste and horror facing Gordon Brown. No longer a drip, this is now a running torrent. Let’s see what the rest of the day brings, shall we?
It might seem off topic but it is actually a core question.
When you think of becoming seriously rich do you thnk of;
a)
Do let me finish.
Do you think of
a) Winning the Lottery.
b) Working hard, setting up a business, implementing a bright idea, retraining and further education.
I’m guilty of thinking too much a) and too little b)
Well, my son thinks b) but I think he’s seriously out of step with society and I fear for his health and happiness being seriously compromised to choose such an irresponsible life for himself..
So,as a concerned parent, I’d prefer him to choose a) and may even buy him his first lottery ticket for his 18th birthday soon.
Good Parenting in 21st Century UK.
how about
d) becoming a loony history student trot, getting talent spotted by the Fabians, NuLab paid MP researcher or BBC junior reporter, NuLab MP for 20+ years, senior office up to and including PM, serious troughing, huge pension and big payoff from taxpayer and a fat directorship at an illuminati bank for service rendered. Thats how its done
The likes of us plebs don’t stand a chance of getting on in life. We didn’t go to the right schools.
Being born to the right parents helps a lot. Parents who married late and died while you were still reasonably young and left their money to you while you were still young enough to enjoy it.
Worked for me, anyway…
Now I’ve got to try and spend it before inflation destroys it.
I’ve been made redundant. I’m unfortunate enough to own my own house which is why I’ve got to sell it pronto, and leave this country before I’m forced to use the equity to live.
The only good things about being left wing would be a pint of lager and a packet of crisps I would think, I really can’t think of any other left wing policies that are any good!
Pork Scratchings? or chicken itchings?
duck droppings
Cancelling the Royal Opera House’s subsidy and giving it to football.
Left wing pressure group?
So what?
Dissolve Parliament.
Just another bunch of marxists dressed up in Green coats.
If they rename their blog 180 degrees, they would be Turn coats.
MacKay and Kirkbirde
Winterton and Winterton
It never rains but it pours
How satisfying!
There is one couple that still appears storm-proof though !
No point in cleaning out Labours List of cheats and liers. There would be no one left to drive down the Mall to see her Maj.
The dole queue awaits my friend.
Balls and Cooper. Keen and Keen. It’s pouring, but Gordon has given them an umbrella.
Darling and Vaz. Oh no, they are not a couple.
Couple of c.u.n.t.s, more like.
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Can CHANGE really happen? It’s the most mentioned watchword of the moment.
http://www.plenty2say.com
Thank heavens for Global Warming, in a few years the Thames will burst its banks and Palace of Wesminster will be flooded forever, hopefully it will happen at PMQ’s, the only time all the lazy bastards seem to attend.
I thought it was an ‘Orange’ website.
Well, it is this week.
Those horrid hurdy-gurdies are coming.
Washington, DC 38N54. San Francisco 37N46, ie 38th degree.
Green my backside. How green is it to run a server in a server farm for a poxy website 24/7 365 days of the year?
Politicians who sit in the house of commons need to have their renumeration packages cut, Then we will see individuals who want to be in politics for the cut and thrust of it instead of the pigs we read of every day there for the troughing of it.
This argument that they need more cash to attract better people is rubbish. Government Quango’s are full of unimaginably well paid useless individuals. infact the more you pay the less you get. Look at the bankers they had plenty to attract the best in the world and what happened. A blind man could have predicted a collapse in the economy after the ongoing disasters being perpetrated on mankind in Iraq and Afghanistan. A proper clear out and a full investigation in how the State has allowed these fraudsters too conduct themselves. The Police are Shiting themselves to open this can of worms as it is a lot worse than we all know.
I’m not convinced that a low salary MP’s will make us all better off; my worry is that we might get legions of the type who post on Labourlist.
Have you been there and seen what the committed amateur is capable of? Just a look at the artfully staged mugshots is enough to scare the sh1t out of me and I fought in the Boer War.
It is possible to be competent, decisive, industrious, independent, intelligent and at the same time, greedy.
I don’t condone the troughing that has gone on, all that is required is fair allowances properly regulated.
My 229 was supposed to be a reply to Cromwell’s 156.
Sir Titbrain,
The very problem we have now is amateur politicians. We’re overrun with them! They do not take their responsibilities seriously enough, seek at every turn to avoid their sworn duty to us, Parliament and the country and are of such feeble minds they frequently vote the way their party tells them.
If they want to be paid as professionals they should bloody well act like them first. They have authority but refuse to exercise it or do not understand the role they wanted. They have influence but waste it on climbing greasy poles. They have become indoctrinated to believe they have no power and that is how the Government has become superior to Parliament.
I think they do have power but, as you said, it is used to further their own ends before that of the electorate and the country. We need people with a bit of backbone (I’d stand myself if I thought for one moment I had a chance).
I was going to stand as a local councillor a few years ago. Another councillor told me that I had all the right qualities, but that I would probably not get anywhere because I was far too honest. Says it all really.
“power of the people” = mob rule.
Remember the left control the media, so mob rule means guardinista socialism for ever, and a government by envy, bullying, and oppression.
Yeah, Rupert Murdoch, that famous lefty…
@Craigoh – remind me which political party he’s supported for the last 12+ years ?
Yeah okay. But U-Lab is really just Blue Labour in many respects. It’s a bugger’s muddle of lefty and righty policies: statist Stalinist / Stasi social engineering and extreme bureaucracy bollocks – alongside rip, shit and bust, slash and burn capitalism. The so-called ‘third way’.
The left control the media?
a)The Guardian, The Mirror & Sunday Mirror, The Observer
b)The Mail, The Express, The Daily Telegraph, The Sun, The Times, The Sunday Times, The Sunday Telegraph, The Mail on Sunday, The Financial Times
Man in shed, you are a liar.
Oh and before you start ranting on about the BBC: there is nothing left wing about those warmongering propagandists, as there is nothing left wing about the New Labour War Party.
You must have realised by now that Tony Blair was and is a Conservative.
You’ve been sniffing the creosote again.
Absolutely, categorically in no way do I want to win the next General Election.
You must think I’m stark staring bonkers or mentally deranged if I want to inherit this catastophic mess I’ve created.
I used to see the left wing in this country as the opposite side of the democratic spectrum to me.
Now I see the left as they truly are – the enemy.
What is best in life?
It’s bad enough that Dave is pinching UKIP ideas but now even the left are doing it:
“”About 38 Degrees
38 Degrees is the angle at which an avalanche happens. In the UK, 38 Degrees will enable people to act together, to create an avalanche for change”"..
Pass the sick bag.
90 degrees, the amount a trap door opens on a gallows.
For methane burning in air, the adiabatic flame temperature is 1949°C,
Surely ‘38 degrees’ must refer to the number of actual useful qualifications held by those members of the electorate who voted for Labour at the last GE.
‘fancy but meaningless’
just about sums up the current Old(Noo)LieBore project Guido.
As does the ArkFishyBishy of Cantab and his twatty advice.
And so, to cause max annoyance and upset – albeit on a minscule scale – the votes from round here are goin anywhere but LieBore / Dim Limpids / Tory / Green and all the other ‘right on’ tossers.
Just watching Cameron telling us what we all want to hear. A Tory claiming we need to rid society of elitism. The world’s gone tits up.
He’s just got on to privatisng education (not that he’s called it that – but that’s what it is).
Good,
State run “education” has been a disaster.
Yeah right. Privatisation will sort it out. It’s got a brilliant track record.
Where’s Thatcher when you need her. I’m off to find a South Korean Doctor that can clone her.
38 degrees was the latitude of the original boundary between North and South Korea. And look at the fuss that caused!
Breaking News
Esther Rantzen supports Global Warming and is to stand as an ‘Anti-Sneeze’ MP at next General Election:
http://tinyurl.com/rbfa32
A Saville Row tailor has just been popped in to measure me for a straight jacket but why are men in white coats hanging around the front door.
Any website lacking a Guido Fox or a Spedo Shorts (even if I do say so myself) is doomed to failure!
Today is the first day of the rest of my life.
Things are looking better, went to my car this morning and someone had left a sticker on the windscreen with the words “Parking Fine”, that was nice of them.
Cripes Cameron’s speechwriter should get a gong for this. ‘Finger on the public pulse’ category. (Is that a typo? Did I mean ‘purse’? Only time will tell…).
He’s going on about transparency now, which is a bit rich considering the total stitch-up of his recent ‘apologetic meet my constituents’ gathering.
Remark made to Mr Hannan by a French MEP:
“What is it about you English? You employ your wives and you sleep with your staff.”
Any further details?
David Van Day to stand against Nadine?
Apparently it is in the independent report on Rantzen standing against Moran if she is reselected by her local Labour Party association
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/i-will-stand-if-moran-does-confirms-rantzen-1690797.html
near the bottom
Couldn’t sink any lower.
I suppose this is just the natural progression of the trashy celebrity culture we live in. We might as well turn Parliment into a trashy reality TV show. We can have the X-Factor judges as a panel of speakers.
I can imagine it now….
Simon Cowell : You are what this chamber is all about Gordon. A really great performance.
Louis Walsh : You really did nail that PMQs Gordon. And do you know, I think you might be the act to beat.
Dannii Minogue : That was a world class PMQs today Gordon. One of the best I’ve seen. And the hair is great!
Cheryl Cole : You really did make that PMQs your own Gordon. This could be the start of something big.
Dermot O’Leary: Okay electorate. You’ve heard all the speakers comments. Now it’s your chance to choose. The phone lines are now open. Phone 00 32 2747463 followed by 1 if you want to keep the mark required for an A grade at A-level at 10%, or dial 2 if you want it lowered to 5%. Remember calls cost £2 per minute and all procedes go towards paying the national debt.
Its so lonely here in the bunker, can anyone here me? Gordon’s promised to pop into my typing cell later and break wind on my face. Oh the joys of writing propaganda for such a saggy old government.
I hear footsteps……..
Oh Labour are fab, Tories nasty blah blah drone drone
A fly flew in to my mouth at Prime Minister’s questions. The cameras didn’t get it because I’ve been moved out of view.
Oh and….
‘Ere stop messin’ about!
I swallowed it.
Waiting to hear snot gobblers reply to Davy boy,Snowy boy had a go on Sky but as usual full off spin and how great we are and how we have made the constution even better for people,yeh like id cards,political plod,crap local goverment,Straw seems to be doing the rounds of the tv studios so that snotties reply then.
I have a small penis and I have no friends.
245,
But thick as thieves doesn’t capitalise the letters of his name.
You silly tory troll.
Pay more attention before attempting to copy the blogging legend thick as thieves.
Really desperate and pathetic stuff tory troll.
thick as thieves must really have you lot on the run.
HM Revenue and Customs has begun a fresh investigation into whether MPs could be liable for millions of pounds of unpaid tax for items they claimed on expenses.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5384396/MPs-expenses-New-enquiry-into-MPs-tax-affairs.html
Oh the irony, 50% tax and all that, poetic justice at its best. The Chancellor of Exchequer having to pay taxes back to his own department to help reduce the £175 billion budget deficit he and neighbour created.
Oh please God let it be true… hoisted on their own petard.
Yeah lets save the planet, yeah itll be great! all we have to do is give up our freedom,prosperity,jobs,economic future,liberty and live the life of an east German prole, we can have rationing and long queues,constant political indoctrination and re eductaion camps for counter revolutionaries and anti social elements.
Who needs democracy and capitalism eh? its so old fashioned and clunky,much better to have a supreme socialist soviet to decide on everything, I mean the last USSR was a virtual paradise and the next one will be even better. Who needs wealth, freedom and industrial society, it never gave us nuffink did it comrades?
We know how this is all going to end because soon global cooling is going to bite and people will have no fucking electricity or heating, no food in the shops and no electricity to cook it with, when all us prole scum have to walk everywhere in the freezing cold and stand in long queues for hours because the shops are empty and if you dare to complain then the state will sort you out good and proper comrade!
The future that these fucking NWO watermellon marxist bastards offer us has to be coated in many layers of lies or we wouldnt swallow it, they hope that by the time people find out they have been lied to it will be too late to go back.
The site should be called common purpose watermellons’R'us and the tag line should read ‘Marxism through ecomentalism’!
I said yesterday there’s a difference between poverty and misery, you can be happy even in poverty but these fuckers seem determined to make us both poor and miserable.
The green(bowel)movement offers us a chocolate coated turd in the form of their policies, look how tasy this is they say, vote for us and you can enjoy this…er…lovely thing…look how nice it looks!
Its only when you buy into the watermellon lies you find out that in fact the choclolate covering is in fact made of shit so you get the inner core of shite coated with even more shite on the outside, not only that because once you have bought the turd coated turd you will be forced to eat it!
We mustn’t have a recall system that allows a government’ smajority to be undermined mid-term.
Cameron’s advisers expect to be less popular than Thatcher in 1981. And they will need to be if they are to undo the damge that Labour has done.
As part of the drive for truth in politics, the two Luton constituencies are to be renamed Looting and Pillaging.
“preserve the planet”
Kind of gives the loony eco-taliban game away.
Ignominy awaits them.
Soros’ useful idiots.
Whatever next, a UK version of Daily Kos spewing leftist bile ?
I don’t want these sort of opportunist having any say in how the country is governed – What I want are honest politicians who I can trust – I dont want the country being run by a bunch of tree hugging activists – I like most here have a life outside politics & to think that simply because of a busy life I would be subject to such whimsey by a few even less accountable than those elected scares the hell out of me
I think that by shining a light on everything such as PFI costs & returning our civil liberties will eventually result in an honest politicians – By all means lets all take advantage of the current debacle but let’s not hand power to a few nutters
I haven’t read all the comments here, but I can’t be the only one who hates these little think tanks/groups. 38 degrees? MoveOn? Fuck off more like! Just cos you have a big mouth, a shitball opinion (this is right, that is wrong) and somehow someone in the media prints what you say, doesn’t make you or your opinion worth shit.
So David Babbs thinks his opinion is SO important and SO fucking needed that he creates this shit through Progressive Majority. Just what we need, someone else from a priviledged background who knows fuck all about reality deciding that this is the time to tell ME just how things should be.
Liberal Conspiracy are the same type of bastards. Fuck them all. They have NO effect on real life.
I’ve had a shit day earning crap wages at a lousy job. And these fucks just come out with their holier than thou shit!
A rather quality rant I believe:)
Furthermore you are not allowed to wash your cars on Sundays in Germany. And they eat cheese for breakfast.