Telegraph Owners Take Down Nadine’s Blog
Dizzy has the scoop:
Some interesting developments have happened overnight. Nadine Dorries has seen the blog part of her website instantly taken down after she made allegations against the owners of the Telegraph Group, Sir David Barclay and Sir Frederick Barclay.
Lawyers acting for the Barclay brothers, Withers, instructed the takedown to Acidity via mail last night, citing the Acceptable User Policy. The takedown will be bolstered by the Godfrey vs Demon precendent, where an order can be made and it will be done instantly.
She did make some off the wall allegations on the blog, she is clearly angry with the Telegraph, but accusing the Barclay brothers of setting out to destabilise the political establishment because they favour UKIP and the BNP was a bit barmy. It did lead Guido to suggest yesterday that Nadine Needs a Holiday.
The blog is still available in the Google cache.
The Telegraph has put out this tactful explanation as to how they came into possession of the discs. Note no mention of money changing hands.
She’s clearly premenstrual or menopausal – whichever.
I think recent events have sent her over the edge! Mad cow disease has made a come back… http://www.rantinrab.blogspot.com
If she could backup any of her lunatic tin-foil hattery she wouldn’t have anything to worry about. But we all know she’s playing the man not the ball and is still in a hilarious strop because the Telegraph dared expose her second home piggery.
I think Conservative Central Office will be getting in touch with her very soon indeed.
I doubt Cameron thinks that her insane babbling lunacy is just the ticket right now.
Not to mention that having one of his own going after the Telegraph on such flimsy horseshit when THEY hold the Nuclear Weapons is about as stupid as it gets.
She’s going to have to get slapped down hard for this unless she has cast iron proof of anthing she says and not the mere rantings of a troughing madwoman.
She forgot the first rule of PR; in adversity say nowt. It will only be misinterpreted, and the consequences are usually worse than the original
sin.
Its interesting how she got slurred by McBride and Dolly, but now can’t keep shut. She had a positive from that, but getting excited about someone else’s potential stress has undone all that. Her own stressometer is up to the red line so yes she needs a holiday.
On the matter of suicide watch…the bakers boy stole the crust and thought no-one was looking but when the investigation started couldnt sleep at night. Sales of Night Nurse must have gone up in Westminster Boots!
Dave needs to get rid or sorted early, which he is doing, as the Mentalists will soon be squabbling about who done what. The NEC has not yet handed down its paper. When that happens ZanuLab will be on the front pages as often as Campbell wanted them to b, but for all thee wrong reasons.
Inspector Knacker of the Yard will soon be investigating Mortgage Fraud. Get the biggies sorted first, pour encourager les autres! Good God its Chapman again! Hague was right to say there would almost certainly be prosecutions.
I don’t think Dave has the balls to make her step down at the next election.
If he has, he needs to tell her soon.
I WANT TO BUM HER DAFT !
She is one hell-of-a-MILF !
Born 21 May 1957 … she’s menopausal
Aren’t you forgetting leap years?
Thanks for the link to her blog which I have just read for the first time.
I see no nutter.
I see one very rationally angry lady.
Her comments will bear re-reading when the current feeding frenzy is over – unlike most of the postings on this blog.
Here’s the link to Specsavers …
http://www.specsavers.co.uk/
Reeeeeally ? And the part where she compares waiting to find out if you have been caught thieving from the Taxpayer to a form of TORTURE ????
No, no, nothing that sounds like a babbling lunatic piggy lashing out because she will blame anyone but herself for getting caught with her hands in the till.
And you’d best go round to see she isn’t eating any crayons if her hilarious rant about moles and spies and setups is anything to go by.
Absolutely.
As a result of deep scientific analysis of all views on the matter, I can confirm that 75% of people agree with Nadine and want her to continue her illustrious career in the Conservative party.
Only 15% of people disagree.
Derek Conway was very unfairly treated too.
Well said anon. Sad at Guido’s take on it. Blog freedom for the Bedford one!
One feisty lady taking on the might of the Telegraph as it hypes up the crowds at the stocks. No room for any dissent, no matter how small, against the tide of public opinion it would seem.
Hi Nadine, I thought you’d gone away for the weekend.
Can you show me what you read? In the link I read Nadine was blaming the telegraph for publishing what we all new (thus the story should have been inert). Nadine said that the news should have all come out on one edition – does she mean like a Beano Summer Special. I thould that everyone from Dickens to the BBC serialised long stories. Anyone contemplating suicide has been living a hypocritical life. Those who practice what they preach will sleep easy. Nadine – you’ve lost it haven’t you.
Milfy Milfy!
Agree – but that’s an entirely different proposition
However the Barclay Bros are a bunch of tossers and the telegraph is serving nobodies interests but itself.
But MPs are daft – they should publish everything now (well days ago) to take away the telegraphs highly paid for edge.
Nadine definitely has a point regarding the Barclay Brothers. In one area of business with which I’m familiar, their influence and ‘power creep’ is decidedly questionable, and their motives unclear.
I didn’t find everything that Nadine said objectionable tbh. The point she is making is that the system under which all MPs were operating is of long standing and was encouraged as an alternative to politically unacceptable salary rises. The feeding frenzy is imo very ott, with ALL members now tarred with the same brush, inc those whose expenses though apparently in the higher reaches, may well be justified. This frenzy may well have very serious and unintended consequences – an outside entity overseeing our hitherto sovereign parliament is one.
Some MPs who are very active on behalf of their constituents, or on other campaings of national or local importance, are bound to run up higher expenses than the idle, inc for staff, postage, travel etc
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Some MPs who are very active on behalf of their constituents, or on other campaings of national or local importance, are bound to run up higher expenses than the idle, inc for staff, postage, travel etc
Seriously, WTF are you talking about?
How does working on behalf on your constituents mean that you should try and charge them for your friends’ night spent at the Carlton club?
You need a couple of weeks in rehab, where you might meet your heroine Nadine the way things are going…
I remember a press baron who used the law to hise that he was an excellent swimmer, er, crook.
Is it a permanent gag?
Or if she has a holiday and makes her apologies can she get it back?
John Wicks comments on the lack of attention paid to the security of MPs expenses records were particularly interesting.
How secure are the records of your expense claims?
Can we look forward to the Times running a story on the expenses claims of Telegraph Journalists, or the Daily Mail on those of BBC newsreaders?
If not, why not?
I call to mind the minister who kept his “tangled” personal life out of the press by the simple expedient of having files on the equally “tangled” personal lives of newspaper editors, proprietors and their children.
Will this change with the age of the blogogracy?
Should it?
BBC would be fair game , because we pay for them and they should be held accountable, particularly as they whinge on about their ” impartiality”which has been unseen for many a year.
For the rest it’s none of our business!It would be down to bosses and owners.
Don’t mention the Marr!
Nadine has become a real liability for the Party.
You are right Guido she needs a holiday.
Does she really think what she is saying resonates with the electorate…desperately out of touch.
Credit to you Guido for speaking your mind….Iain Dale, ‘her protector’ really puts a protective arm round her. He should never mix friendship with personal blogging.
Nadine…if you are unhappy, go……
I’ve never liked her to be honest. In Question Time a couple of weeks ago she said ‘Trident isn’t a weapon of mass destruction.’ In which case, why am I paying for them?
I have a nasty suspicion she will become the Patricia Hewitt/Harriet Harman of the next Tory government.
Agreed. She is atrocious. Like the others you mention, she gives women a bad name and gets the misogynists crawling out of the woodwork. She’s done more damage to the conservative party through her ridiculous tirade than many of the revelations.
“As an ex nurse who managed on a measly salary I know how angry people are. ”
The point is I do not think that she does. Someone not completely out of touch with reality would be able to survive on roughly three times the average wage.
She clearly does need a holiday, but she is not the only one!
Can you put holidays on expenses?
Well they are part of destressing so you can be a better MP.
She has shown herself to be an unstable person with the remarks she has made.
I am glad she is not my MP.
Totally agree.
She is waaaay out ot touch.
She is really damaging her reputation.
I used to admire her…now…she is not the person I expected—out of tune with her electorate. She needs to remember it is the electorate that gave her the ability to speak out.
Shame that her career is in decline
She’s blown her credibility.
Sad.
The Penguin
I think a smear campaign against her is in order.
You are Damian McBride and I claim my £24000 allowance
Only 25% of people are Damian McBride. 75% are not!!
I was a nurse, you know, and have a woman’s intuition for these things
Just one more page from MPs’ Kama Sutra of screwing the public. Note the increase since 1997 and who promised a bonfire.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1186810/The-unelected-quangocrats-rake-3m-year-taking-government-posts.html
Yeah, but the Telegrarf right, they do support UKIP and the B NP right because they do though, innit. Anyway gotta go now. Spending the bank holiday weekend in my holiday home, sorry, my main residence, in the Cotswolds. Byeeeeee
ps I’m available for interviews and TV appearances. Contact my agent. Usual number.
I agree.
Bloody glad she is not my MP.
She is a laughing stock…a joke…
Guido….stop giving her publicity…this woman is a joke.
The joke is a woman?
The answer is to get more women into politics.
The answer is for men to be more like women.
Only 25% of a man is currently like a woman. The government proposes a target of all men being 75% like a woman by the end of the next parliament.
Maybe if she issued the swim suit edition of herself she would recapture the feelings of sexual frisson that many men of my age had for her….please!
Provided they have been vetted by me and are the right sort such as Georgi Gould and Emily Benn.
I noticed it was down last night at about 11pm. I was going to ask her about ‘ Operation Hawk’ as she never got around to telling us about it. Maybe she asked the pilot to fly over her house and they got lost somewhere.
Ah yes – Operation Hawk!
That would be the ride in an RAF jet to which the Hon. Member for Mid-Bedfordshire treated herself in another constituency at the tax-payer’s expense, while virtually every other M.P. was in the House to hear the speaker talk about the dangers of troughing.
I’ve always been very suspicious of people when they feel the need to go on at length to tell you how hard they work. It suggests rather that their “work” is unable to speak for itself.
Nadine is, I’m afraid, a terrible example of the kind of tokenism that has put complete imbeciles (Morris, Short, Blears, Harman, Smith) in the Cabinet, and which should be beneath the Tories.
Her performance on QT the other night (“Trident is NOT a weapon of mass destruction”) was just embarrassing.
Vasa vana plurimum sonant
How come it’s only Tory MPs who are arranging public meetings and getting a roasting?
When are Labour politicians going to face the voters?
People like Hoon, Darling, Purnell, etc have done far worse things than most of these Tories but have managed to largely avoid the spotlight.
Furthermore, why isn’t Brown being put on the spot over claiming thousands for a London flat and a house in Scotland, when he has been living rent free in Downing St for the past 12 years?
The collective embrace their politicians, right or wrong. If Labour thieves are pilfering the Public Purse it is ‘on behalf of the disadvantaged to redress an historical grievance’.
Doesn’t matter that the cash is coming from the pockets of the ‘disadvantaged’, just dress your argument up in the right way and the idiots fall for it every time.
I agree, apart from Hazel Blears who McDoom has set the hounds on – and the press like his puppies, rather than hounds, do his bidding – the rest of the cabinet are getting an easy ride.
Every Tory moat and duck house is played up for great effect, McDoom even mentioned the moat cleaning himself during PMQs – but funnily enough not house cleaning. McDoom however, who has been earning a six figure salary for 12 years and living rent free in some of the most expensive and secure real estate on planet earth, can claim away without the newspapers or BBC batting an eyelid.
The BBC will do everything it can to turn this scandal to Labours advantage.
You couldn’t prise the Tory, Labour and Liberal Democrat parties apart with Semtex.
Whichever face of the Politburo gets dunked in its own sewage takes the others with it now.
Let the BBC keep shovelling selectively – it’ll go down the pan with them in any case.
Agree. Its the usual Socialist/Marxist democratic deficit.
They do it all the time wherever they get their grubby tarnished trotters onto the levers of power.
Just can’t bear being told they are wrong, when they are, which is most of the time.
She is a female woman and quite clearly nuts. The telegraph needs a medal for bring the whole murky business to light.
“She is a female woman”
As opposed to a male one?
She is not a girly boy, thiat’s the difference
I am a male one.
After a phsychological gang rape by McBride, Draper and the rest of Brown’s bully boys, Nadine was under a lot of pressure, so I forgive some of her hysteria. As for The “Kray” Twins. I’ve been pushing a conspiracy theory on my blog over this expenses feeding frenzy without much support. After the Wick’s cameo (MI5?) performance I suggest my posts are not so daft after all. trust me, Jim Snot is in this in some shape or form. You might care to check my last few posts.
She is a loose cannon, a publicity seeker, and a narcissist. She’s a real embarrassment for Cameron who is working his arse off trying to sort out the problem within his party, unlike Brown who is lying, stalling, and trying to con the public as usual.
spot on, don’t forget the bbc are running a serious ‘save labour’ agenda, and they are quite skilled at manipulating presentation of views – its time for Cameron to ensure the loose canons are kept in the background and someone sensible gives the interviews.
‘Save
Labour’
Agenda
Very
Egalitarian
All right
All right
Calm Down
She is a scouser
…publicity seeking narcissist? Typical politician!
There needs to be a mechanism in place where if say 50%+ of constituents petition for an MP`s removal, then the MP must stand down and there would be an automatic bye election. This at a stroke removes the power of the whips and means that MP`s would HAVE to reflect their constituents views on issues at all times.
That is totally unworkable, any MP winning a marginal would be open to all kinds of pressures
The MP is selected initially by the party for which he/she stands, and it’s pretty difficult to ‘unseat’ them – as it should be – even for the local association.
There should definitely be a by-election if an MP wishes to cross the floor. Like it or not, voters are choosing a PM and a Govt, rather than just an MP. How we address this dichotomy is the big question. Forcing all prospective MPs to stand as Independents is probably too utopian
Dorries is a disgrace to the Conservative Party. Such an egotistical, publicity-mad, lightweight should never have been chosen as Tory candidate in the first place. She should now face reselection and hopefully, be deselected before she does any more harm to the party.
The same goes for Andrew Mackay, who is a shameless expense fiddler, though at least he has the courage to face the electors, unlike the hordes of thieving Labour MPs and ministers.
I agree, Iv’e a feeling Cameron is telling (ordering) some of his troughing MP’s to face their electorate. As you suggest why no Labour, or none to my Knowledge, are doing the same.
Perhaps Brown is in so much shit with his frount bench, and with his lack of leadership and courage just cannot order his thieving crew to face the music.
With a little help from plod they may have to, if so pleeeese let the media cover it live. WORLD WIDE!!
“such an egotistical, publicity-mad, lightweight should never have been chosen as Tory candidate in the first place”
You’ll find there’s a whole lot more coming after the next election thanks to Dave and Central Office….
“such an egotistical, publicity-mad, lightweight should never have been chosen as Tory candidate in the first place”
Didn’t stop Thatcher, and her Cabinet……
All of this shows that the Telegraph do have an agenda
They are not playing by any normal journalistic rules. Twisting facts, ignoring evidence and, all too often, getting it wrong.
Now trying to silence critics
Rather odd
(not saying they haven’t done a lot of good – but they have also got a responsibility to do things in a proper and just manner – which doesn’t appear to be the case so far)
Dorries’ conspiracy theory may be crap; she may be damaging the Tory party (it should be up to them to dissociate themselves from her) but why the hell should the DT use its influence to shut her up?
If she is making a fool of herself then leave her to it – she’ll soon come unstuck.
But the Barclay Brothers silencing her because they don’t like the message – this is not good for any blogger.
Quite, I’m curious just why everybody is cheering this internet fascism on. Lawyers are the enemy of the proles, theres a reason why during the Peasants Revolt a lot of them lost their heads, so soon as you see someone sending their lawyers out to shut someone up on the internet you know who the scum is, and its not Bonkers Dorries.
(she is Bonkers though).
I’m sure Dave is delighted that she’s been shut up.
Dave is only 25% Conservative.
The woman is a national treasure.
Well said – I think she may be onto something.
It’s appalling that the BBs have the power to shut up their critics so easily
If MPs LIVED in their constituencies with their families and only STAYED in London rather than have their main domicile there they wouldn’t get a corrupted weekend snapshot of what the lives of their constituents was like.
MPs need to be REPRESENTATIVES of their constituents, if they took that to heart they could speak on behalf of their constituents. The vast majority of MPs are only capable of speaking on (firstly) their party’s behalf, (secondly) their career’s behalf, and (thirdly) their misguided own opinions.
The acronym MP make them think they are members of parliament rather that out representatives. If we called them “Constituents Representative At Parliament” they might get it through their egos that the represent us. And the acronym C.R.A.P. has a nice ring tio it.
Sorry for typos above. Last paragraph should read:
The acronym MP make them think they are members of parliament rather that our representatives. If we called them “Constituents Representative At Parliament” they might get it through their egos that they represent us. And the acronym C.R.A.P. has a nice ring to it.
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A VIRTUAL PARLIAMENT WOOD BEE THE CHEAPEST OF ALL
THEY COULD ALL WURK FROM HOME
yes but how many C R A P s would you fill the house with ???
Depends what your diet is.
Credit
Rating
Agency
Professionals
are mainly to found in offices.
I can’t imagine slimy Shaun Woodward moving to St Helens.
Exactly. Fuck him in the arse the two faced ratfucker.
she is certainly a peculiar addition to the tapestry of public life. She does have a point though about the Barclay brothers, a deeply unpleasant pair. Earlier in the year they trashed the economy of Sark when the citizens refused to elect a Barclay slate of candidates.
Now they are trashing our parliament, though the troughing pigs inhabiting it makes for a sitting target.
Don’t chop down the tree because you don’t like the bird singing in it!
There are certain ommissions from the DT list such as Balls/cooper, why do these rich foreign oligarchs miss such obvious targets? Who else are they leaving out and why?
It’s the most sensible thing I have seen on Nadines blog.
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THOSE SUKKERS ARE PRIMED FOR SUPERSIZING
Never mind Nadine, The Independent seems happy to provide you with a platform for your deranged outpourings. The readers aren’t too pleased though…
There’s still loads of thieving Labour MPs to be exposed in The Telegraph. Be patient. Labour are in for a rough ride this week.
They were but they might just concentrate their cannons Camerons way this week because of the actions of this publicity seeking waste of space.
But you are quite correct there is far more to come out and Labour have another large tranche of piggery exposure coming their way soon.
No defence of free speech then Guido? However idiotic or inappropriate, Nadine is being censored.
Besides, as I pointed out yesterday:
There are real questions for the DT to answer about their editorial policy in reporting MPs’ expenses. The column inches and relative prominence of reports strongly suggest that they have hidden agendas that amount to personal opinions about individuals regardless of the reality of their particular expenses claim, and a policy agenda beyond that. The DT is behaving as god, judge and jury, barely one step up from Can’t Prosecute Socialists.
For example, many have remarked that Balls/Cooper seem to have had little prominence, perhaps because of a drinking relationship. More frivolously, they don’t like water features – be they jacuzzi, bath plug, moat or duck pond.
They have failed to shine much of a torch on the behaviour of the Fees Office itself (by now they must have a fair idea whether certain individuals within it seem to have had an undue bias toward accepting ridiculous claims or favouring a particular party).
The Barclays are feudal press barons. Who do they wish to parachute into vacant constituencies? (”Mr Cameron will also be able to parachute new candidates, including women and members of the ethnic minorities, into some of the country’s safest Conservative seats.”)
Is it an accident that they come out in favour of Widdecombe as Speaker?
Why do they indulge in class war? (”Mr Cameron taking on the toffs would show the Conservatives have changed.”)
These things do not speak to supporting a parliament of talent and integrity democratically chosen.
I do support free speech and think the Barclay Brothers are being over the top. But I also think Nadine was writing bollocks. Free speech doesn’t mean truth-free.
Nadine is mad. Fine. But we have the spectacle of two extremely weird billionaire twins closing down an MPs blog. That’s the main story, not Nadine’s off the wall – and so harmless – theories.
All the more reason to have it’s content published irrespective of it’s credibilty.
AH (C)
People seem to be forgetting that “the disk” was hawked around Fleet Street for quite some time before the Telegraph bit.
The Sun had the chance to publish and Rebekah Wade hilariously turned it down and went stark raving when she learned the Telegraph were going to run it for all it was worth. Rupert, we can guess, was not a happy bunny.
Doesn’t exactly fit in with the tin-foil hattery if other Editors just didn’t trust it, wouldn’t fork out the asking price or have the bottle to sieze the opportunity.
This is a fascinating question. Just why did other newspaper groups turn down the disks when the benefits in terms of coverage and influence were so predictable?
One can only presume that Murdoch and the other media barons thought the risk of antagonising the political establishment was just too high to take.
Rebekah may have ducked out on finding that it wasn’t a list of parliamentary paedos. Maybe Murdoch had a reminder about diving off yachts being hazardous. The Times did print the spoiler about the disk being hawked. Several others weren’t even asked. When did Brogan start at the DT?
I wonder if one day that, you’ll say that, you care
If you say you love me madly, I’ll gladly, be there
Like a puppet on a string
Love is just like a merry-go-round
With all the fun in the air
One day I’m feeling down on the ground
Then I’m up in the air
Are you leading me on?
Tomorrow will you be gone?
I wonder if one day that, you’ll say that, you care
If you love me madly, I’ll gladly, be there
Like a puppet on a string
I may win on the roundabout
Then I’ll lose on the swings
In or out, there is never a doubt
Just who’s pulling the strings
I’m all tied up to you
But where’s it leading me to?
I wonder if one day that, you’ll say that, you care
If you say you love me madly, I’ll gladly, be there
Like a puppet on a string
I wonder if one day that, you’ll say that, you care
If you say you love me madly, I’ll gladly, be there
Like a puppet on a string
Like a puppet on a….. string
One day the entire truth will be known no doubt and it will be a fascinating tale indeed. But if people cast their minds back it was reported in the Media that this “disk” was indeed doing the rounds and here are some of the details..
from this Mail story http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1179578/Police-hunt-expenses-mole-businessman-hawks-details-MPs-receipts.html
A computer disc containing full details of MPs’ expenses has been hawked around newspaper offices since March, with a price tag of between £150,000 and £300,000.
Several, including The Times and The Sun, have refused to pay for the material.
They are said to have thought the information was not worth the price or unlawfully sourced.”
The Times wrote in April that a businessman offered to sell the details of every expense claim made by MPs over the past five years for £300,000.
And I clearly remember it reported as far back as April, not just in the Press but across the Network News, Beeb C4 etc.
So, as usual, publish and be damned is never quite that simple.
But the Telegraph clearly got it spectacularly right on this occasion while others Editors no doubt feel like the Publishing Houses that turned down Harry Potter.
What we can say for certain though is that any moronic babbling about some ludicrous carefully constructed plot and setup with moles and plants is utter f*cking nonsense.
Spouted by an overloaded pea-brained piggy overwraught with the thought of no longer being an MP and enjoying all those lovely perks. So she lashes out like a toddler who’s had it’s Jelly taken away.
Because anyone who thinks waiting to see if they have been caught thieving from the Taxpayer is, and I quote..
“a form of torture”
Needs to be taken under immediate adult supervision. Or failing that send the Tory whips round to make sure she isn’t eating crayons or wallpaper paste.
Yeah right, Rupert Murdoch was “warned off”
This Government is as sh*t scared of him as the Tories are.
And I doubt Rupert fears the machiavellian machinations of the dastardly Barclay Brothers as much as you seem to.
Perhaps singing little ditties to yourself is a warning that you have gone off the deep end ? Though I do admit the Barclay Brothers as Blofeldian Bond villains destabalising and bringing down entire British Government and Political System is simply fantastic comedy! It’s just a shame you actually seem to believe it.
Watch out for the silent back Helicopters!!! They are ominously marked BB.
(The Barclay Brothers are really… Orwells Big Brother!! but twice!!)
Nulab aren’t scared of Murdoch? Is that why Blair had a weekly meeting with his master?
“This Government IS as sh*t scared..”
Of course they are. Which is why I said as much.
Brown also kept the “love” going as much as he could.
The Barclays are to Brown as El Fayeed was to Major.
And will the result of their vindictiveness to the political establishment of today because they could not get what they wanted (in Fayeed’s case it was only a British Passport) turn out to be any better for democracy?
I fear that the “clean out” will turn out to be as constructive as that of Cromwell – and I happen to be a fan of Good King Noll.
You don’t have to train to be an MP, that’s why so many are so far out of their depth. 125K a year (inc pension) is not bad for unskilled work.
Pretty soon you will see this unskilled pool of light fingered incompetence ask the Taxpayer for more cash to replace the cash they can no longer make fiddling their expenses.
Can’t wait!
thats nothing guido , couldnt get onto Old Holborns site , kept getting browser crash , whenever i clicked on anything in papers with the words B N P got browser lock up . very weird , also clicked on one paper then went to another returned back to it and whole layout but not articles had changed .
searched for gordon brown heartache vid on you tube and vanished without a trace !!
might be my zx spectrum , but was nuts from 8pm to 11pm
re Nadine shes quite a nice person i think , and parliment needs them , but you cant cure the corruption with nice words , although i can well see that stage in a persons life put it this way if she had had the disc would she have passed it to the telegraph ??? she would have probebly given straight back to mr speaker as she thought he was nice bloke
OH has published his MI5 conspiracy theory, and is hosting his pots and pans bash at Parliament Square (hoping to pass himself off as a Tamil) this morning. Probably enough to attract the attention of the MP (the lot in Victoria St), who are feeling left out. Besides, GCHQ’s subcontract with Chinese hackers probably was looking for some target practice. Or perhaps Gordon’s brother’s company’s generators failed to allow the good server to be a generous host to deep inspection internet packets.
Yes because as we all know if there’s one thing this Government is good at it’s keeping data safe.
Face it. Someone in the Fees Office or elsewhere had had enough of these piggies and decided “f*ck em”. He made a few hundred grand and is now fairly safe from prosecution as well as being lauded by everyone except EX Speaker Martin, bugnuts crazy Madine and the troughing piggies themselves.
Don’t get me wrong I’m as amused by the tin-foil hatters as the next man but this was a disaster waiting to happen presided over by fools and now taking out MP’s in an entirely unpredictable but nontheless hilarious manner.
I think MI5 may be rather busier trying to justify missing the 7/7 suspects and losing briefcases in the pub and documents on the train rather than engaging in amusing byzantine Bond style Conspiracies.
Did Google agree a censorship deal at its Zeitgeist (alias “meet with the politicians who will protect our global information monopoly”) ?
I’ve just been reading her blog that you linked to. Just so I’m clear,tell me Guido, is “she adds to the gaiety of the nation immensely” Guido-speak for ‘ignorant, gooby bird with big tits’?
the woman is too much of a loose canon.
- as the actress said to the bishop.
Re: ‘ignorant, gooby bird with big tits’?
Well played Sir ! Well played indeeeed!!! I really did laugh out loud there.
So what’s wrong with big tits?
Maybe it’s true that the owners of the ex-Tory-graph are not playing their onw games.
But you can’t help but wonder. For example, Andrew MacKay – he is a long-running opponent of tax havens. See a recent Hansard extract below. Can it be that Messrs Barclay take umbridge with that from their Sark retreat?
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Andrew MacKay: The European Council deserves our support in putting pressure on unco-operative tax havens. Why did the Prime Minister not mention Bermuda when naming the various countries that are tax havens? Has it anything to do with representations from Lord Myners?”
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OR THE VATyKAN
Foreigners coming over here and buying all our newspapers
Oh right. Brilliant!
Now we’re expected to believe that the Barclay brothers made McKay and Kirkbride two of the biggest piggies in Parliament.
Look, everyone knows that if you want a new boiler, you pay half in cash and half by cheque. that way you lose half the VAT and get a nice price cut becuase the plumber pays half the tax.
Everybody does it. Everyone knows about it. We only do it because no Prime Minister in history has stood up and said “Plumbers deserve a special high rate per hour”. Its all the establishment’s fault.
What I did was within the rules, but – and this is really a minor point – it’s not allowed by the Inland Revenue’s Green Book.
So I went and said to my MP “I’m being hounded by HMRC, day after day they keep after me and I may commit suicide. I want you to fix it with them and get them off my back”
Well, Nadine, let’s say you are that MP. What was your reply to the plumber?
As someone who has had suicidal thoughts i think it is right of Nadin to mention this. I contributed to Alastair Campbell’s blog that i am concerned about phil Cope
I’m convinced that Gordon Broon is not listening and may even survive all this suicide talk. Damn!
Arise Sir John Wick for services to the British people, Gordon on the other hand would probably take his head off with the ceremonial sword.
To be frank I think the Telegraph had no choice – she was accusing them of all sorts.
I’d be asking her to stand-down if she was my MP – I supported her before over Smeargate but she is making a complete arse of herself and Cameron must be livid.
Quite right.
Guido knows full well that he and others have to be careful and circumspect at times as Lawyers do indeed still know how to read the internets.
Dorries has gone over the edge and her desperation to hold onto her seat and blame everyone in sight but herself has turned her into a complete liability.
Action must be taken. And that right soon.
Nadine for Speaker
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SHE MUST KNOW SUMTHING
She probably knows how to spell, unlike you, you fucking chimp.
Nadine ? Able to spell ?
You ‘DEFINATELY’ haven’t visited her site, have you ?
I like Nadine and don’t think she’s mad – except in the angry sense! At least she’s human and has/shows her feelings. She’s not a party clone
But I do wish she would learn to use the past participles of the verbs ‘to sit’ and ‘to stand’
“We were sat…” and “I was stood…” – learn your effing transitive and intransitive woman
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U TORK TOO MUTCH NUMBER 57
I asked this on Iains, but it hasn’t appeared..
How come the press haven’t gone after her landlord to ask about the missing money?
Anyone know who her landlord is?
When threatened politicians seem, like daft Draper, to resort to accusing their opponents of racism, either direct or indirect.
Patriotism used to be regarded as the last refuge of the scoundrel, now it seems that “racism” is.
Maybe I should have titled it ‘ex’ SAS man but what the hell: Metropolitan Police Decline to Interrogate SAS Man.
Did they know who they’d be ‘interviewing’ when they decided not to pursue the case?
What she is saying may be weird, but she should be allowed to say what she likes, but if the Telegraph have pulled her site we should repost the message. Big companies with powerful backers should not be allowed to bully.
Is the Telegraph and the Barclays afraid of free speach?
so repost…
I think what she said was probably unwise and OTT, but actually I think she could have a point about the Barclay bros having an agenda which is anti europe, and the timing of the story having been planned to have a major effect on the euro election. Certainly the constant drip feed of generalised attacks on MPs some of which (only some of which, mind) seem to be without foundation runs counter to the spirit of good broadsheet journalism, and does seem to play into UKIP’s hands.
Having said that I’m afraid Nadine needs to go back to basics: “engage brain before opening mouth”
YOU’RE ALL PERSECUTING ME FOR BEING A WOMAN
A female woman to boot.
We need MPs who have courage to speak their minds and be caring enough to help people and colleagues in trouble.
We have all seen the damage Gordon Brown has done to the country with his control of MPs and Parliament with Peerages bribes and expense allowances for his MPs to keep stum.
The Barclay Brothers – Lords of Sark – probably want to give all politicians a bloody nose for the damage they have done to the British economy and their businesses in particular, but to try to damage all MPs for the sake of a few is going too far. Money should be barred from influencing politics. We all have only ONE vote.
The Telegraph has its pound of flesh and should get back to reporting the news and the damage this Brown Government has done to this country.
We only just have free speech in this country and that is what everyone should be concentrating on preserving.
We need MPs who are not afraid to speak out and not afraid of the media rubbish.
Nadine says “Put it all in one edition, or is that not profitable enough? ”
She’s got a point.
If by “point” you mean talking out of her arse.
It’s taken them this long to sort, follow up and verify the data on roughly a third or so of the 650 names with an entire team of journos assigned to it.
Not forgetting that an edition of the Telegraph as large as a phone book would be riotously funny but maybe just a BIT impractical.
However after they have gone through the names they now have the ideal “DVD” give away for readers.
FREE in this Weeks Telegraph!
650 MP’s expenses on one handy disk to keep and peruse at your leisure!
I’d buy that.
They are in it for the money (just like the MPs)
Nadine does seem to need a bit of a rest.
Maybe the court case she is preparing against McBride and co. has left her a little worn out and unwell (in the head).
Newquay is great this time of the year, she should try there. Just ignore the monster sized sea gulls and enjoy the sun, love.
If she had her back door kicked in a bit more often she wouldn’t be so anal.
I’d love too.
Anyone hear Dorries on Today? The sheer condescending arrogance of these venal scum is unbelievable! They claim they are owed the ACA, and are encouraged to maximise it, because they don’t have a salary commensurate with their responsibility. They are downright *irresponsible*.
It’s true they don’t have a salary that is commensurate with their responsibilities. Trooping through the lobbies when you don’t even know what you’re voting for, going “Ha-ha-ha” or “Answer!” and making animal noises in the Chamber, opening fetes – what, about £30k for that? I wouldn’t employ Ms Dorries at my firm. Would you?
I would but not at The Express
I would, but then I run a MILFs escort agency.
Und ze telegraf??? normally the first to print news concerning the city and the militaries…
At least the public aren`t discussing…
Unemployment and quantative easing.
Huge bonuses to banking staff.
The loss of harrier jump jets in Afghanistan.
9/11….(inside job).
The building of submarines and aircraft carriers.
Whenever minor news occupies the paper, it`s a sure thing… major news is hiding in the shadows…..
Ja wohl… hier kommt das musik.
Never mind the oiggery let’s watch the public Slappings that are going to happen now
When Guido sobers up ask him to give me a bell.
This is very bad news. Ms Dorries should be allowed her say even if she is in La-La Land. The Barclay Bros. are indeed a pair of litigious weirdos and you only have to look at their attempt to achieve total power on the island of Sark to see how menacing they can be. There is no mystery why the Telegraph ran the story – it is a newspaper, and this story is a brilliant scoop. The real mystery is why the Murdoch press turned it down.
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The quote is
“Free speech includes not only the inoffensive but the irritating, the contentious, the eccentric, the heretical, the unwelcome and the provocative provided it does not tend to provoke violence. Freedom only to speak inoffensively is not worth having. What Speakers’ Corner (where the law applies as fully as anywhere else) demonstrates is the tolerance which is both extended by the law to opinion of every kind and expected by the law in the conduct of those who disagree, even strongly, with what they hear. From the condemnation of Socrates to the persecution of modern writers and journalists, our world has seen too many examples of state control of unofficial ideas. A central purpose of the European Convention on Human Rights has been to set close limits to any such assumed power. We in this country continue to owe a debt to the jury which in 1670 refused to convict the Quakers William Penn and William Mead for preaching ideas which offended against state orthodoxy”
Forgive me, but I’ve been living in Holland the past few years (where all the politicans appear to be mad). Consequently, I am not well up on what is happening here politically.
Can someone tell me why Nadine Dorries is considered to be “batshit insane”? I just checked wikipedia, and, apart from the current addtional costs allowances row – where she defends herself (surely that can’t be why Guido and most comment-makers here think she’s mad?) – she seems to be a perfectly rational example of a Conservative MP.
It is apparently just over four years since she made her maiden speech in the House of Commons. What has she said in public since then to have garnered the “mad Nad” reputation?
No conferring, please.
You mean APART from trying to simultaneously play the pitiful victim, attack the messenger, talk horseshit about “suicidal” MP’s, compare the exposure of thieving Politicians to Torture, claim that everyone knew about the Expenses abuse, claim that the Expenses were some kind of “top up” that MP’s were entitled to,
and now to top it all off she is babbling like a twat about a swivel eyed Conspiracy theory involving the Barclay Brothers trying to destabalise and bring down the entire British Political System and somehow force Cameron to put the Barclay Brothers own personal proxy MP’s into seats as well as their own Independents, Celebrities, Ukip and the BN P (and YES we are expected to believe this is all in the masterplan) and thus control Britains Parliament and Government.
Apart from all that… why, you’re right! she’s a good egg.
If we ignore her second home piggish troughing of course.
She was branded loopy because of her stance on abortion. Personally I don’t like her much, however she is one of the few politicians who says what they think. Most of them say what we would like to hear. She is eccentric but not mad.
You have to give her credit for being the only MP. with the backbone to fight back. As for all the sanctimonious hypocrites on here defending the lawyers and the Barclay Bros. and the saintlyTelegraph. What can I say, how about a trip down the road, the local farmer will be only to happy to put a ring in your nose, that will make it easier to lead you where they want to take you.
For goodness sake two weeks ago most of the people on here were saying what ND was yesterday.
W4nkers!
Not true, Mackay also decided to “fight back” by talking complete bollocks but it didn’t seem to impress his Constituents or Cameron very much.
And if troughing piggies end up in court do you think the Judge will be impressed that they fight back with tales of suicidal MP’s and lunatic Conspiracy theories ?
Your basic error is that you seem to think that laughing at her tin-foil hattery over the Barclay Bros. and her attacking of the Telegraph for making her and all her friends unhappy by printing their expenses is the same thing as defending those two excuses.
Most people simply don’t believe her and see all this as transparent attempts to desperately shift the blame anywhere but herself.
While it’s undoubtedly true that the Barcley Bros. are utter C’unts with over litigous scumbag lawyers and the Telegraph’s most crucial bit of “investigative reporting” was to fork over £500,000 or so to the SAS middle man, I’m afraid none of that excuses her second home piggery or her hilariously over the top babbling about suicidal MP’s and Conspiracy theories.
He really is pretty stupid.
Assume you mean me?
Is the insanity accusation against Nadine Dorries solely to do with her response to this ACA scandal?
Just a yes or no.
No.
Ahh those freedom loving Telegraph owners the Barclay Huhnes
HOW COME THE CHAMPIONS OF REFORM DID NOT REPORT “THEIR FORM OF RULE” IN THE TELEGRAPH…HuhneS
billionaire Barclay brothers shut down their operations in Sark after they were demonstratively kicked out in the first full election in the last bastard of feudalism in the Western world.
An crooked election campaign ended with the islanders voting for candidates who opposed the brothers’ moves towards .
Sir David and Sir Frederick Barclay, owners of the Telegraph newspapers and the Ritz, responded by announcing the closure of their hotels, shops, a restaurant and other businesses. Building work was suspended.
The Bardard Barcleys did not stand in the election, but not one of their favoured candidates secured a seat on Chief Pleas, the island’s parliament, which is presided over by the hereditary Seigneur.
Well spotted. The Barclay Brothers are indeed a pair of complete C’unts.
This is, as we all know, a radical departure from Newspaper owners the world over.
But what they aren’t is a pair of Bond Villains.
I can just imagine the scene after their Sark twattery…
“Today we take Sark.. TOMORROW BRITAIN !! Muwahahahahahaha etc.”
Its a wonder the Press have turn a blind eye to the double standards to these telegraph Castle owning Sir Huhnes.
I’m glad that the Telegraph exposed these Corrupt MPs from all Party’s ,but a case of the kettle calling the pot black.
Funny how all the real corruption is done by the Sirs/Lords/Royalty, seems to me that feudalism is alive and kicking and we’re still the serfs.
I wouldn’t scoff, the Brothers do play a very long game, and like to get a controlling share of whatever interests them. I can’t speak out but I do know a bit about one of their operations. Disturbing people, imo
It’s stalking time for the moonboys…..
A good opportunity for the Govt to put forward a bill banning non UK residents from owning UK media due to the chance of outside interference in UK affairs. Time for the Barclay brothers and Murdoch to be shown the door, I cant imagine any MP’s not voting for it!
Wierd.
I had read Ms Dorries coments on the Barclay brothers as tired maunderings; and it seems that most other readers regarded them as boring bullshit.
If the Barclay brothers were more like other people, one would have been inclined to suspect that ‘the greater the truth, the greater the libel’ might be the maxim their lawyers were following. But the brothers Barclay are different, of course.
No MP is going to commit suicide over this.
They haven’t the decency.
The people of Sark showed how to respond to this. Vote for democracy even if the bullies then close down your economy.
All bloggers should organise a boycott of the Telegraph and Spectator. See how that helps there sales.
Anonymous – R U Mad? You may not like the BB’s (I certainly don’t), but we owe them thanks for their exposure of MP’s fraud when other papers feared to tread. If they do have another agenda, so what? A lot of people have woken up, even if only for a while, and the current climate of Lèse majesté and activism will not favour the BB´s any more than any other vested interest.
You mean – the Sarkese get to – what was the word – ‘vote’ for their leaders? They get a real choice, not just TweedleBrown and TweedleDave? We wouldn’t stand for that here. No sir! Hypocrisy, oligopoly and manipulation, that’s what makes us great!
Quite sure it was the Barclay Bros? My money is on a desperate David Cameron ringing up in a funny voice and pretending to be them.
The idea of cheeky blonde scouser Nadine going in to the offices of the nameless and friendless in Westmonster, sitting on their faces and asking them penetratingly regal questions such as: “Who are you? What do you do?” nearly did for me.
Then she wrote:
“Whipped up into a frenzy to achieve exactly what they want.” Oo-er, missus.
Note to the Barclays, please save your solicitor’s fees. This one is on a spectacular self-destruct trajectory and you’ll spoil the show.
Poor lass, it’s probably time of the month. That’s an example of why women are really not suited to politics. Take a tablet Nadine, have a little rest then go and wash the dishes like a good little girl.
I would.
Exactly
Rich people often get pissed off when they don’t get their own way. When someone stands up to them, that person or persons should then be given due credit. The only hero so far is the St. Andrews Golf Club for refusing entry to (sir!) Fred Goodwin. Second could have been his local Mercedes dealer who could have refused to fix his car when it was trashed, but ah well car dealers aren’t having a great time at the moment .
There will be more of this, because ordinary people who have been shit on from a great height have less and less to lose
Nadine Dorries may be a bit OTT, but she has humanity, and like Ken Livingsone and Boris Johnston, doesn’t seem to measure people by the size of their wallet.
She’s certainly no cheque-waving defender of the indefensible
Taking down blogs is more serious than these comments imply. Right to reply; correction of inaccuracies; removal of certain statements; mmm, maybe ok.
Certainly the right to deal with it in full under existing provisions eg libel laws. But pulling down a whole blog? You may not like Nadine Dorries (tired, stroppy, trougher or not) and her accusations may have been ill advised in the absence of some careful research but are you happy to focus on her shortcomings and accept that her blog be silenced?
I agree with some of the comments (including ND’s) that we are risking something here in our glee at the downfall of the troughing political class; a vacuum is indeed forming and we need to be vigilant as to what turns up to fill it.
This is not a funny moment and one or two on here maybe need a quick swot up on how the minority National Socialists achieved power in Germany in the 1930′s. A reminder:
Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.
Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
Als sie die Juden holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Jude.
Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr, der protestierte.
In finding the translation I hope it will make some on here think more carefully as to what happens next.
When the Nazis, the communists won,
I remained silent;
I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the Socialists einsperrten,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When she took the unionists,
I did not protest;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they brought the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.
When they picked me,
there was no one who protested.
‘I agree with some of the comments (including ND’s) that we are risking something here in our glee at the downfall of the troughing political class; a vacuum is indeed forming and we need to be vigilant as to what turns up to fill it.’
The vacuum is the game alright.
Dermott
Good point Max, this could be just an excuse for a Government sponsored clampdown on bloggers in General. She might be tired and emotional and talking PISH but……
With respect Google translate is great for joking about with but this is far more serious; so here is what it means:
First They Came
Let’s be careful of what we wish for.
Quite Guido. If you throw around petulant conspiracy theories just because the torygraph criticizes you then it probably is a sign you should take a break.
Well said!
But she does have a point. Where she is wrong is in thinking that it makes the toughing MPs any less culpable.
The public have been deceived by dishonest MPs that is true – but also by ‘honest’ MPs who kept quiet, the press who kept quiet, civil servants who kept quiet etc…
We believed parliament could generally be trusted because the honest MPs wouldn’t let the dishonest get away with too much…
Roll on they guido generation.
He would have charged a fee.
Would it not make sense for the political parties themselves to pay MP’s expenses? This would ensure that they were policed and stayed at sensible levels.
Whats sense to do with it you silly man.
The Telegraph did Cameron such a favor by closing her blog….nice one!
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She’s only looking for attention.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5350793/MPs-expenses-The-saints-Part-iii.html?image=15
I didn’t even know that the Telegraph “rented out” blog space. Regardless of her views, which I agree may be somewhat batty in the circumstances, the Barclay brothers should not be able to censor her. She should move her blog to Google blogspace or one of the other “free” providers. We can’t have these feudal “lords” acting as censors and deciding who can and can’t express their opinions.
You’re not being strong enough in your condemnations Guido. Surely free speech is part of Libertarianism?!?
Very true !.
And leave it to Google’s lawyers to censor.
What you can and cannot google about Scientology goes up and down like a yoyo and the attendence at their Zeitgeist makes Bilderberg (and other fantasies) look like E L Wisties World Domination League.
you can and cannot like a google about Scientology yoyo goes up and down What
The Barclay bros are indeed a “bunch of tossers” a bunch of “feudal tossers” and of course they are serving their own interests, why shouldn’t they. THEY ARE ALSO SERVING ukip’s INTERESTS by their choice of timing and as it happens they are serving all of our interests regardless of their intent.
If we can get genuine constitutional reform out of their actions, cut down the number of MPs to 400, provide a fully elected second chamber (again cut down from 1200) and give MPs more power over the party apparatuses then they would have provided a genuine service to democracy in this country.
With fewer potential troughers in a new Parliament and a tough new expenses regime then we could possibly look at MPs pay again. After all if a “cue card” reading beeboid “presenter” can get £92,000 pa then remaining MPs might well be worth slightly more than such creatures. Its called downsizing and happens in business very frequently I do believe.
According to the People newspaper, it looks like Nadine is on the way out.
“Ex-POP star David Van Day plans to run as an Independent candidate in the next general election because he believes the public will prefer him to “money-grabbing MPs”.
David, 52 – half of Eighties duo Dollar – said: “This expenses scandal is outrageous. People want a parliament that they can have faith in and respect.”
But David, who will fight Tory Nadine Dorries in MidBedfordshire
Is Nadine in the right job?
Her comments suggest she is out of her depth.
Having said which the lesson here is:
Don’t get in bother with the Barclay Brothers, as they will get you.
Methinks the Lady doth protest too much!
Who does anything for free? I thought you were a capitalist Gaydo Fucks? MAKE ALL THE MONEY YOU CAN!
The moment she protested that our beloved politicians are practically suicidal and we should all gather round to comfort them (on her personal blog) was the moment I realised this woman is fully detached from the masses. Now this accusations she makes simply reinforce my opinion. The woman should resign, shes living in a fantasy land. Bye bye Nadine, I actually had respect for you, but now your true colours have shown I can see you for what you really are. IF you were a man I would call you an arsehole!