Nadine Needs a Holiday
Guido has a lot of time for Nadine Dorries, she adds to the gaiety of the nation immensely. However she has really misjudged the public mood if she thinks there is any sympathy for MPs who are feeling stressed. Most people would like to see crooked MPs in jail, not getting psychiatric counselling for stress at the taxpayers’ expense. She seems to be saying that the ACA racket was known and understood by all to be part of an MP’s entitlement. Well that may be how MPs see it, but that is not how most people see it nor how it was in law.
The only MPs suffering stress are those that fleeced the taxpayer. They deserve more than that, they deserve to face criminal charges.
UPDATE : Anthony Weaver, from Holborn agrees. He applied for a summons before a district judge in Jacqui Smith’s constituency in Redditch alleging that she defrauded the public purse of between £116,000 and £200,000 by claiming her main residence was her sister’s London house. He wanted to prosecute Ms Smith under Section 2 (1) of the Fraud Act 2006. The judge adjourned the case, advising Mr Weaver to contact Scotland Yard.
Poor old Nadine!
Second then
Dont forget Gordons Sky Sport we payed for!!!!!
Exactly: Why the hell doesn’t Nadine shut up?.
Her public breakdown is very amusing, but she’s distracting us from all the premier league troughers.
We’re forgetting: why is Hazel Blears still a cabinet minister? Why are the bloody Balls completely untouched. Why the fuck isn’t Elliot Morely in prison yet?
And why hasn’t Baroness Uddin been dragged onto the streets and hung from a lamp-post?
And those awful suits that come with trousers pre-tucked into his socks.
Dissolve Parliament
Send her a tin foil hat
She thinks the whole thing is a plot by the Barclay Brothers
Nadine Dorries MP
House of Commons
London
SW1A 0AA
Telephone her on: 020 7219 4239
Email her at: dorriesn@parliament.uk
Join me at Parliament tomorrow, 12 Noon. It’s take to take back what is ours
Apparently Tony’s expenses weren’t shredded afterall.
Plato has been following some links to the original story
http://plato-says.blogspot.com/2009/05/tonys-expenses-they-werent-shredded.html
McBride at work?
He he. In the DT, minister for something-or-other has apparently threatened himself with jail.
How very public spirited of him. We need more of that kind of real leadership from MPs everywhere.
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Hear Hear
Drag Bliar’s lamentable “People’s Baroness” to Brick Lane make her answer for her social housing scam.
Appropriate her Beamer and seize her Marble Palace.
The trougher must be stopped.
Shredded ?
Yeah, send this lunatic twat on a nice Holiday to relieve the stress of enraging voters and making the Tories seem out of touch morons.
Careful Guido, that was perilously close to an apology but luckily you pulled back by telling us she adds to the gaiety of the nation. Funny thing though, none of the Voters are laughing at her and neither is Conservative Central Office.
It could be worse. At least you didn’t stick up for Colossal twat Anthony Steen who makes Dorries hoonacy look like a mere slip of the tounge and is currently causing droves of voters to flee brand Conservative.
Oh wait you did.
“Guido will admit this, Steen goes with class, without desperately clinging onto the greasy pole.”
Perhaps laying off the sauce might be in order ?
Widdecombe is offering her able services as a member of the Samaritans while putting the boot into Dorries for her idiocy telling the Media she doesn’t know any suicidal MP’s.
She’s also says she’ll stand for Speaker on an interim basis.
There is a nice lamppost just outside my house – she and her thieving, lying colleagues are free to use it whenever they feel like it- I’ll even chuck in a free bit of rope.
Be on notice that if you make any more limp post comments you will be prosecuted for creating a general feeling of public ennui.
Is that why you keep changing your ‘monicker’?
My local B&Q has run out of rope and they are VERY low on piano wire stocks too….
I’ve bought shares in a piano wire manufacturer. Gonna make a fucking fortune! http://www.rantinrab.blogspot.com
Graham Norton and the BBC do that.
Nadine Dorris simply adds to the national debt.
Her increasingly deluded rantings are the sort that only a self obsessed zealot can
deliver with a straight face.
I would still kick her backdoors in though.
That’s disgusting but funny.
You sound just the person
Can’t you socially engineer Nadine
Complicated
But should be fun…
What would it produce ?
The Poison Drarf ?!
BTW has she killed Gordon yet
I’m just waiting for her to sting…
With a little bit of tweeking we can turn her into a submissive pole-dancer.
I don’t think I would, she has the look of an obsessive stalker about her.
W.W.
she`s a friend of Julie Kirkbride so she must need sykiatrick help
We still have not had an explanation from Ms Dorries of the rejected hotel bill for a stay which she says she did not have.
Who stayed and why under the name of Mr N Dorries? How did the bill get passed to her office and why was it submitted?
Was Guido being particularly arcane to have an ad for John Lewis (they of the ‘list) immediately below a lead piece on the ACA?
talk about throwing all those carefully crafted sympathies
have a holiday Nadine
Poor Poor Politicians. What about the Whitehall manderins who let them get at it and are now Grassing them. Fantastic if you really do want to smash the last Pseudo Democarcy to bits. Well done you snivelling scum. Didn’t see that one did you? What a bunch of Knackers. All that Police State instrumentation in place ready for me to take over, Cant wait to get you all in the Gulag
PHOAWR the only way i’m voting for the Tories instead of UKIP or another small party is if the LOVELY FANTASTIC SUPREME DREAMY NADINE does one of three things:
1. Does a racy photoshoot like Caroline Flint did earlier in the month and Nadine must personally sign all photos sent to her or requested of her from her office or website.
2. Gives her male fanclub a tour around parliament
3. Telling us her position on anal sex.
I’m with you there, Randy. She’s fucking delicious!
Imagine Flint and Dorries licking each other out. Hnnnngghh. Shit.
Nadine recommends lots of KY.
If the STATE pays politicians then it is paying them not to argue with it. The more they are paid the less democracy you have. Get it. We don’t get any in Europe and we have got less and less here. Pay Politicians at you peril. Subsistence only and lets see their real metal. Yes you would clear Westminister in a second.
First.
Well second then.
Dont forget Gordons Sky Sports Sub we payed for!
Wanker
Cyntaf
Wps, trydedd!
I could murder a coffee
I could murder my MP! (if I can be bothered to go to Southampton!)
Cyntaf slej ‘ma
Hyyyun
Baaaaa!
Baaaa!
that’s enough Scotch on here
psychiatric counselling? They should go and see Derek Draper.
Not for counselling, just to remind themselves that things could be worse.
When are the police going to get involved?
Right after they’ve had their donuts, coffees and chinese takeaways delivered.
Assuming they haven’t got paperwork to fill out still.
But Gordon fixed the problem – CCTV will be making the arrests from now on!
The Police aren’t getting involved so that the our country take it into their own hands, Then the Police whom the state have been building for the last 20 years will be able to flex their muscle, Sorry I mean Guns Tazers Long Night sticks Pepper Spray, all the while Balaclava in place with hidden numbers.
Cant Wait to get you all in the Gulag
Second then,
Dont forget Gordons Sky Sport we payed for!!!!
Well you’ve mentioned it 3 times so I don’t think we will!
Don’t forget Bill Wiggin de Friggin in der Rigging and his massive claims with no receipts and twenty three mortgage claims on a house with no mortgage, flipping cheeky liar.
Tell David Cameron not to forget to!
When did he get time to watch it, he’s been sooo busy ruining the country!
Gordon needs a rest.
He looks a bit worn out and lonely, as this short film shows.
The Crumbliest Flakiest Prime Minister in the world.
Tell Cameron there’s to be no more ducking and diving on this issue.
Bill Wiggin de Friggin in der Rigging must be held to account now.
Where’s the ‘secrew tinny panel van’ he promised?
I was at school with her and Cameron wants to protect her.
VOTE DONOTHINGANDITWILLGOAWAY
When in a hole stop digging.
Don’t give them ideas, we’ll be paying for JCB’s next!
No – Brown has nearly ruined them too – they have laid people off too.
Anyway,at least the criminal Brown has got a National Plan.
My 13 yr son could make up a better title than that – like;
“My name is Gordon Brown and I am a criminal fraudster and my plan is this;
I RESIGN”
Dictators don’t resign.
They dictate, drop dead or get executed.
For Cyclops, the preferred option is number three.
Don’t forget assassination.
And let’s be honest, it is a bloody miracle no-one has had a pop at Blair yet, isn’t it?
Maybe when I get out……………..
Where’s Tim Montgomerie when you need him?
he`s pally with em all
No, Guido, you are (slightly) wrong. It is OK for London MP’s who have no ACA, but for all the rest who have claimed anything at all over 5 years, this must be wholly ghastly. The Telegraph can make any claim look silly if they want to (and have been doing so). There all MP’s on all sides who have been traduced (as well as the 20 or so who have behaved badly and the 3/4 who may have broken the law. Waiting for the telegraph letter, and having 5 hours to defend your career, honesty, reputation and sense of sense worth cannot be anything other than horrible in the extreme. I get the sense of justified national outrage, but we are all also being somewhat manuipulated.
Being an MP isn’t a career…you can be voted out at an election (in some places, at least. I admit that tribal voting patterns mean that many seats will never change hands). Half the problem is that MPs think that it’s a job for life and settle in with a happy sigh of entitlement once they’re elected. They shouldn’t be worried, they’re always telling us they could earn the same or a lot more outside politics.
Georgia Gould is claiming dirty tricks campaign against her.She is all over the Evening Standard.She expected to get the Erith seat because of who she is and keep it for life(£68,000 plus expenses for a 23 year old is not half bad.)She’s now looking for a safe Labour seat when one of the dishonest old buffers is deselected.She is currently working for the illustrious,man of integrity, absolutely honest Tony Bliar and living in a half mill pound ‘property which she owns.She was most upset by all the flak she got from the media and wanted to stay in bed all day and cry (so did we after the way her party has f…..d the country)
We have our own version of rotten boroughs these days – seats where a sweet wrapper would get elected if it wore a red or blue rosette. The answer – the incumbent MP should face reselection in an open primary every other general election (i.e every 8 to 10 years) – that would mean incompetent party stalwarts being kicked out.
I think it may be slightly more than 24…………..It is absolutely unbelievable that the MP’s can still be missreading the situation as badly as they are, you only have to look at Steen who, in spite of the retraction today a) believes he should have been free to spend the money in anyway he chose and b) that the public have no right whatsoever to know about it.
Multiple toilet seats, bedding, linens, partners doubling up on costs, flipping homes, declaring one to HMRC and another to the house to double dip, I have to be honest I am not going to lose sleep is someone ends up getting locked up and pole dancing, it will take most of them back to their public school days…………
Nadine…pole dancing? I’d pay to see that!
not as much as to see them withdrawing the whip.
(!)
Ding dong!
No my friend
MPs are meant to the GUARDIANS OF THE PEOPLE’S MONEY
THEY MUST THEREFOR BE AS CLEAN AS CAESAR’S WIFE, as the expression goes
ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT AND THE WHOLE DEMOCRATIC STRUCTURE COLLAPSES
WHICH IS WHAT THESE MPs HAVE MANAGED TO ACHIEVE
VERY SERIOUS AND IT WILL TAKE YEARS (IF EVER) TO RESTORE THE CONFIDENCE OF THE PEOPLE IN THEIR REPRESEANTATIVES
When history is written, the destruction of the authority of Parliament and Government will be what is most damning.
PARLIAMENT, COMMONS AND LORDS, ARE SHOT TO PIECES NOW..
GOD HELP US, WITH THE COMING FINANCIAL DISASTER TO BOOT
Makes you think what a Next Labour Govt might achieve? It’s not all that unlikely as polls show that 20% would still vote for them.
JULIE KIRKBRIDE`S BROTHER CAN SAVE THE WORLDthe third roundel
As I said all those years ago, ‘If gold shall ruste, what shall poor iron do?’ (Not bad eh?) The damage these venal politicians have done to the social fabric is not yet quantifiable, but it is certainly more significant than they themselves are capable of understanding, and is about far more than the mere loss of parliamentary respectability. When Dorries, Moran et al checked their morality at the door / PDQ, and once we all knew about it, one of the central Gramscian pillars was knocked away. The impact that this will have on the behaviour of large sections of the electorate will take time to percolate through, but will not be good. These political opportunists may yet reap a small, English whirlwind.
Well rather than waiting for the stolen disc to find a buyer, they could have published the expense receipts themselves months ago. Instead they chose to engage in a censoring exercise, removing the addresses (for the sake of the MPs security of course) would have made the “flippin” problem go away. Alas it was not to be, they have only themselves to blame.
5 YEARS OF CRIMINAL COVER UP
AND OUR “PARLIAMENT” FOUGHT ENDLESS LEGAL BATTLES AT OUR EXPENSE TO STOP US KNOWING
AND STILL NOT ONE OF THE BASTARDS HAS APOLOGISED OR SAID IT WAS A BLATANT CONSPIRACY TO PERVENT THE COURSE OF JUSTICE
ORGANISED FROM THE TOP BY DIRTY TRICKS BROWN AND SPEAKER GORBALS LIKE TRUE MAFIA CAPOS…
THIS TREASON HAS NEVER SEEN IN THE HISTORY OF BRITAIN..
WE`VE BEEN WATCHING IT FOR YEARS WITH JULIE KIRBRIDE
the epitomy of de problum
de worst offender – millions!
de only exposed conspirator to defraud – with husband oilytan.
The Telegraph has exposed a rotten system which some MP’s (not all) have exploited to a greater or lesser extent, some perhaps in good faith, some rather cynically. In her Today interview, Nadine Dorries stated that the print and broadcast media knew full well what was going on. Maybe so, but the point is that we, the British public, did not, and Parliament made strenuous efforts to keep us in ignorance.
Well now we know, and believe me we are NOT impressed.
We want MP’s to accept that they – collectively and individually – got it badly wrong. If they don’t, they may well reap what they have sowed at the next General Election.
MP’s pay is not derisory – the thick end of £65,000 per annum is in the top 3% of salaries in this country. We can all whinge that we’re underpaid. Most of the people of this country have to get by on significantly less. All an MP’s legitimate expenses are paid for (quite rightly) by the taxpayer. But why exactly should the taxpayer buy posh flat-screen televisions and other luxury goods for already well-paid public servants? We have to buy such things for ourselves out of taxed income.
If MP’s want our respect, they must remember that their job, which we the taxpayers pay them for, is to act on our behalf. It is most emphatically not to enrich themselves at public expense. If the can’t get by on their salaries, they should tender their resignations and find better-remunerated work, and good riddance.
I seem to remember some clown saying “tough on crime tough on the causes of crime”. Time to get tough on MPs and time to get tough on the Govt then. But then again the clown who came uo with the phrase didn’t mean for anything to come of it. Pity because I agree with it..
Well said. Anyone remember Elizabeth Filkin?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-479751/Hounding-decent-woman-Labours-brutal-campaign-destroy-ethics-watchdog-Elizabeth-Filkin.html
Julie Kirkbride is pure – evil!
I don’t really see MPs as poor little defenceless furry creatures who can’t speak for themselves. They are all used to the art of the misrepresenting an opponent and putting the worst interpretation on the actions and words of others. They’ve had their fun – now we’re having ours.
Hear, hear!
Bollox!!!!!, manipulation is a set of redacted(great word!) receipts showing nothing, manipulation is Gordon saying “i have long fought for change” but not turning up for the vote last july as he had a “meeting”.
They deserve all they get and did you see Alan Duncan on Have i got news?
Tosser!
Jack fron geordieland
How true “we are being somewhat manipulated”. “Expensegate” – a timely distraction from Joanna Lumley’s resounding success – a win for democratic rights over Nulabor bullies and manipulators. Media spin/sleaze is their predictable means of redress. The person accountable for authorizing ALL “sensational expenses” was (reportedly) a Labour Minister !!!
Blind viewer,
Talk for yourself you damage limitation troll.
People will not be happy until justice has been served upon the MP thieves.
And it is most criminal of you to attempt to talk down the stealing of public funds.
You must be one of them and not one of us.
Watch your back.
I can’t wait for the next general election – Moran is going to find herself out!
The way the DT have taken a perfectly valid public interest story and milked the public by dropping gobbets of gossip on a daily basis makes them just as corrupt as their victims. Who do the Barclays think they are, latterday Beaverbrooks and Rothermeres?
What bollocks! It’s the MPs who are thieving bastards, you fool.
Anymouse. I made that point. I’m saying that the DT’s handling of the story is in it’s own way just as corrupt in that the handling of the story is making tham excessive amounts of money and that the owners are making political capital. Stop making Hoonish statements and consider the question, first de-coupling your testicles and engaging your brain.
Grumpy what do you expect? The DT is a commercial enterprise and not a charity. Of course they are milking it. Wouldn’t you? If they published the whole lot in one hit the dirt would be buried in the detail. To be honest they are doing a public service by dragging it out and making these scoundrels suffer.
what a stupid comment GOM. Have you ever met Oilygrease MacKay or Plotterfraud Kirkbride? Get real.
Give me just five minutes with you – that will be all it takes to change your tiny mind – oh and the shape of your head.
Just 5 mins.
Countering a political argument with a threat of force? You are perfect BNP material. Any way, I’d have to catch up with you first.
Just 5 minutes and grumpy old man,
I would like to see you two have a right old tear up.
I don’t fancy the old boy’s chances though.
Grumpy you are ridiculous. You must know Julie Kirkbride.
The Barclays need the cash to buy up the rest of Sark.
No
To buy up the rest of the MSM for two and six…
They can bought for less than Guido’s Blog as we all know…!
they don’t live in Sark
No, they own the neighbouring island of Brecqhou but made 140+ people on Sark unemployed because they had the audacity to vote freely, instead of voting how the Barclays told them to vote.
The Barclay Brothers then had the cheek to state that they want “radical electoral reforms” on Sark which they claimed was “feudal”.
You couldn’t make it up.
DT just as corrupt as their victims?? You are a hoon. We are not forced to buy the DT – but we do have to pay taxes so that MPs can buy it for nothing.
Then let the Commons authority publish every MP’s expense account.
After all, they’ve had four years to get it sorted. But decided that it wasn’t fit for the peasant’s eyes. In that, they were right.
Augeas. Good point.
They have 700 odd expense files to plough through you plonker.
Since all teh dirt is out there, why dont the MPs each publish their own expenses now with an explanation?
Because just like that Norfolk tw@t today, they think if they blank-out bits of it, we’ll be none the wiser.
Who’d now trust them to publish ‘everything’ anyway?
You can’t blame The Telegraph for making the most of this – they are a business after all. Plus, they are doing a great public services. What surprises me though, is that The Telegraph (which was always an establishment organ) has morphed into Robespierre. Guillotine the guilty (especially the guilty, including Blears, McNulty, Hoon, Smith, Purnell and Beckett (just because she deserves it!)).
There are real questions for the DT to answer about their editorial policy in reporting MPs’ expenses. The column inches and relative prominence of reports strongly suggest that they have hidden agendas that amount to personal opinions about individuals regardless of the reality of their particular expenses claim, and a policy agenda beyond that. The DT is behaving as god, judge and jury, barely one step up from Can’t Prosecute Socialists.
For example, many have remarked that Balls/Cooper seem to have had little prominence, perhaps because of a drinking relationship. More frivolously, they don’t like water features – be they jacuzzi, bath plug, moat or duck pond.
They have failed to shine much of a torch on the behaviour of the Fees Office itself (by now they must have a fair idea whether certain individuals within it seem to have had an undue bias toward accepting ridiculous claims or favouring a particular party).
The Barclays are feudal press barons. Who do they wish to parachute into vacant constituencies? (“Mr Cameron will also be able to parachute new candidates, including women and members of the ethnic minorities, into some of the country’s safest Conservative seats.”)
Is it an accident that they come out in favour of Widdecombe as Speaker?
Why do they indulge in class war? (“Mr Cameron taking on the toffs would show the Conservatives have changed.”)
These things do not speak to supporting a parliament of talent and integrity democratically chosen.
The DT has made no mention of the auditors of the fees office. These, one would think, have been derelict in their duty. Scandal indeed, but the DT ignores it.
Cameron will be no different to New Labour, he’s a lefty.
“that may be how MPs see it, but that is not how most people see it nor how it was in law”
Isn’t her point that the law DOES see the system as an allowance or entitlement, not as expenses reimbursement?
If she is right that the divorce courts count the allowance as income, then most of the cases we are seeing are irrelevant – if the money belongs to the MPs who cares what it is spent on?
That misses the point.
What Dorries so incredibly fails to see is this.
If the ACA was a top up to salary that MPs were encouraged to max out, then what in fact was happening was that Parliament, for years, told us that they would not take pay rises “in the public interest”. They told us that they were showing solidarity with the little people. That was the public face they put on. AT THE SAME TIME in the background and out of our sight they were troughing away at the ACA – behind closed doors whilst maintaining the public image of frugality. And all this, Dorries says, because the political class didn’t have the balls (or indeed the grounds in my view) to debate with us the worth of MPs, in the open.
This demonstrates the utter venality and corruption of the political class over a long period. How Dorries thinks this situation should result in sympathy is beyond me.
And finally, if the ACA was salary and everyone (media, politicians, etc) knew this – why didn’t someone tell those outer london MPs who have not taken a penny?
Nice try Dorries, now fuck off
Hear Hear
But it is not taxed as income! she’s making this up as she goes along
Any chance of a gratuitous picture of her hot daughter?
I think Cameron should withdraw the whip from Dorries.
He should never have put it in her, the dirty bastard.
I wish you hadn’t put that picture in my mind…
Yes, the last thing I want is an image of Nadine’s pussy, the very last thing, hnnnnnghhh. Shit.
Guido. Do you really think your blog is enhanced by such disgusting, offensive and vulgar comments from the likes of “Anonymous”?
Course he does, Roy Simpson. Now shut up, I’m having a wank over a picture of Jenny Dorries…
Pass it on when you’ve finished. My balls are bursting. Come on, sweet Jen…
Yes, please. Jenny Dorries is fucking delicious!
Doesn’t she have two daughters?
Two daughters? Sweet heaven!
http://www.irfanahmed.org/2009/04/jenny-dorries-voted-researcher-of-week.html
Nice smile…
Thank you, Mary. Tissues at the ready!
She really is hot! I came in about 10 seconds!
Indeed, Nadine should take a few steps backwards before she goes any further.
Dave has already had a word in her shell-like….as he has with Anthony Steen.
http://www.catosays.blogspot.com/
Surely under EU law these MP’s will be entitled to massive compensation for the job related stress and trauma they have suffered. I mean, fair’s fair after all.
It’s their yuman rights. Innit?
And therein lies most of the problem:
To many of them, it is just a ‘job, the only ‘job’ they have ever had and see it as only that. An MP should have a vocation to do public good, once they have done other things and seen the world as it is to the ‘ordinary’ people of this land and want to change it.
McBoomAndBust gave the game away last week.
She has made a valid point. Forget her whine for understanding and sympathy.
The backbenchers have been bought with ACA. Made compliant. Tick box junkies. Surplus to the democratic requirement. Encouraged to trough. Etc.
The expenses are but a minor element of the debasing of our democracy and the degradation of HoC from debating chamber and decision making body to a vacuous echo chamber floating on a sea of expenses swill.
NuLab ministers have bypassed HoC for a decade. Announcements are leaked, made on youTube, handed to compliant journos and dished out as press releases. No independent voices. No debates. Just a powerful executive dictator aka as PM who has appointed ministers on basis of their love of perks and low quality. We are living in a police state. This is the crime of our expense loving MP’s
The icons of NuLab: Brown and Jacqui Smith. What the fuck is there to say.
You are quite correct. Each and everyone of them bought and sold.
It’s time for a fundamental change in the constitution. The present system of a non-elected Prime Minister having presidential powers and extensive powers of patronage means that the power of the Commons has been lost.
What is required is is a return of power to the Commons to enable it to hold the executive to account. The power of the Whips must be removed, or at the very least severly curtailed. I wouldn’t do any harm to reduce the number of MPs at the same time.
Under NuLab the HoC as become a part-time institution, devoid of anything meanigful to do, other than rubberstamp the 75% of Brussels inspired legislation.
They need to show some balls and tell Brussels/Strasburg where to stick most of their stupid laws. After all it is only this country that takes every one and gold plates it.
Much as I distrust the French, they have the right attitude to many of these regulations, say yes or shrug their shoulders – and then ignore them completely.
You are right. The sidelining of Parliament took on a whole new meaning under ZaNuLabour – Blair wanted a Presidential Premiership and boy did he get it! With a massive majority of 180, feeding perks and expenses to compliant back benchers (wasn’t the ACA doubled in 2002?), putting twat Martin in the Speakers Chair.
All a big plot by ZaNuLabour to marginalise our elected representatives and govern without being held to account. Brown has taken this to a new level, by bullying his way to the top and then appointing a bunch of third raters to his laughable Cabinet.
Call an election now and kick out this bunch of destructive wasters!
The leader of the opposition is not without blame. He has learned of major policy statements announced to some school students, and publicized first in the Aberdeen Advertiser. He has helped it happen.
Ahhhhh – diddums,are they feeling stressed – oh dear,and earning £65,000 a year – oh poor Nadine – well fuck off and let some of us have the job – we are honest and we can add up – more than that nonentity Straw and that criminal Hoon.
I’m so stressed now that I’ve had to get the wife to clean the moat
Dont forget to put her on expenses old boy.
I’ll do thejob for £65,000. And I won’t draw expenses. I can’t say fairer than that.
Julie Kirkbride does it for £434,000
Ian Kirkbride does it for £216,000
Naomi Dent does it for £193,000
Why are you so cheap?
Nadine goes on about the Barclay brothers’ UKIP leanings, essentially accusing them of sabotaging the three main parties to progress their cause.
Inadvertently, Nadine is doing the same thing. While many disaffected Labour and LibDem supporters flocked to the Tories for support, the likes of Nadine and Steen are putting them right off.
The Jury Team is gaining prominence as a result of this.
I think UKIP are going to give Labour a fucking good kicking at the Euro elections. As a qualified counsellor I will be happy to give all those poor suffering MPs as much help as I can – they can bill my extravagant fee to the taxpayer.
Help them to slip away quietly?
“Slip away quietly?” Euthanasia’s an option, certainly…
Gaiety ? Sounds a bit like the blood flow isnt going to your head.
I’ve not heard much about her in the past, but recently I got the impression of her going off on a bit of a rant without thinking about it (BEFORE this one came out).
NO !! Put Nadine on PM [again] The World Tonight, World at One, and have her on 24 hr coverage from Sky News, with a little webcam link for when they have to cut away to ‘Breaking News’…
Nadine ‘Wacky’ Dorries is ACE ACE ACE !!!
It is her piss-poor grammar and shite ability to construct sentences which make any sense, and the complete absence of rhyme and reason in her arguments which make me so attracted to her !!!
That and the fact that her complete absence of wisdom and self-respect means she is probably willing to go like an express train.. Woo -Woo !!!
Well,if she’s like South West Trains,there will only be space for a stand up.
It would be statutory rape, she hasn’t the intellect to give consent.
cunning stunt. one step up on fivebellies.
I too was appalled when I heard her interviewed on Today.
Derek Draper spotted in Kentish Town. Looking dishevelled and quite ill.
Was he not clutching the rope I sent him?
No change there then. Has the lovely Kate chucked him out?
Anybody else got onto Amazon and reviewed Drapers book? Its taking a battering
The slimy git.
Infamy infamy they all have it infamy…
He might need counselling call 1 800 WASHED UP LABOUR TWAT helpline.
For a very reasonable fee, I am avaiable ( until my accreditation is withdrawn ).
Window lickers and spastics need not apply.
Fausty – But surely the irony is that many voters may vote for the Lib Dems, purely on the ‘plague on both your houses’ effect from disaffected Labour and Tory voters ??
Surely the LDs cannot hold a candle to the troughing antics of the two main parties ? With the possible exception of the twattery of Lemsip ??
Alan Beith and wife(Baroness Bucket) have trumped the blue ribband troughers McKay-Kirkbride.
All the lib dems
are troughing,
its just like averything
they do, they are not
very good at it.
The LibDems lost all moral authority over the Lisbon Treaty referendum. If they think people have somehow forgotten that, they’ll soon find out how wrong they were.
Agreed, the day they bottled out on the constitreaty was the day I left them for UKIP.
I doubt it. Those that do either don’t know about Lisbon, don’t understand it, or don’t care, and I doubt there are many of that flavour.
True, the LD’s haven’t been troughing it so much – to their credit. But Lisbon is so damned vital, if we don’t ditch Lisbon, all this talk about reforming parliament will become academic in time, because it will have no authority or sovereignty.
Nadine thinks that some M.P.s are close to suicide, bring it on say I.
We could have a new TV programme;
“Suicide Watch”
and we get to choose their exits;
1.)Off the top of Big Ben (the tower not the stud,calm down)
2.)In to the Thames weighed down by Brown’s make-up kit
3.)Kettled by the Special Patrol Group in Parliament Sq.
Nah
should be ‘Celebrity MP Suicide’
Fine, let the corrupt thieving fuckers top themselves, all 646 of them. Saves us the trouble, and decreases the surplus population.
Where do we send the razor blades too?
Should be like Big Brother – where we get to vote which one gets to commit suicide next, as well as watching their exit from – the House!
Suicides?
Lots, please!
Maybe the public could vote on it and we could watch the winners top themselves live on TV.
Brilliant. Get Ant and Dec to host it and you’ve got yourself a hit show.
I’d watch it!
Sod Ant & Dec, let Brucie do it!
“Give us a twirl”
Could always get Susan Boyle to sing ‘Requiem’
Or get the ghost of Jade Goody to host it.
Counselling? Flaming COUNSELLING?!?
I’ve got your counselling right here, you hoons. A clean conscience is a soft pillow. The end. Well, maybe not quite…
“Go ahead an’ get it over with then
Find you a bridge ‘n’ take a jump
Just make sure you do it right the first time
‘Cause nothin’s worse than a suicide chump.”
F Zappa, 1978
Ah – Cown-Sling!!
The Noo(old)BoringLiar house religion.
When all else fails – throw a sicky.
When that fails – say you’re gonna top yourself!
Either way, the cown-sling industry grows, -
Oh GAAAWWDD – wot a fuckin race o’ twats we’re turning into!!
(Or is that the Grand Plan?)
Think so. One all-embracing “how do you feel?” dependency culture.
Everyone taking in each other’s washing. Everyone cown-sling everybody else.
Thare are more self-styled counsellors in the country than there are chartered accountants.
Yea
And we know what chartered accountants did to help the collapse…
Oi! Guido!!
She don’t make me feel bloody gay!!
She has that effect on Dale, though…
Please withdraw that comment or we will be contacting Ms Harman.
Can you explain your community please
I get L = Lesbian
G = Gay
what is the rest…
Undoubtedly other forceful contributors to the NU LABOUR disaster…..
I heard she regularly fucks him with a big strap-on. The little queen loves it.
If the MPs are feeling suicidal, isn’t Dolly Draper to the rescue, or would that tip them over the edge?
Spot on GF! If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime!
Who asked you?
wah wah wah
What’s to do?
Do you think the voters are going to go for the ex-Eton and wannabe ex-Eton shower.
They’ve been unmasked for the inbred lunatics they are.
hwoar, hwoar, pull………..BANG
quack, quack, thud
See Daily Show clip “SCAMERON”
This woman is an awful old ham. Her self-righteous burblings just make her look even sillier than she is.
What I find astonishing is that after all this, these people still don’t get it.
I think Nadine is a very naughty lady. I’d like to pull down her knickers and smack her naughty little bottom.
And then . . . . . ?
Don’t stop there you sod . . . me knees were just starting to go funny!!
Join the queue….
Does she wear any?
She doesn’t wear any. I’ve seen her shaven pink Hunt.
Never mind ham, what about her beef curtains. Yummy yummy.
I have got something thta she could repeatedly put in her mouth to stop her inconsequential ramblings!
I have no sympathy for MPs – they are dodgy fuckers and let the country down.
They have been more interested in lining their pockets rather than improving things for the public! They can all fuck off as far as i am concerned!
Nadine needs her head examining for saying what she said.
We need a directly elected PM in future so no fuck-wit like Brown becomes PM ever again. The PM like the President in the states appoints ministers and Sec. of State directly as like a POTUS he/she has the mandate.
We need a house of commons of just 300 people it should be like the house of representatives in the states. That means people dont become ministers from a shallow and lets be frank pretty useless pool of Hoons!
An upper chamber like theSenate in the states only 100 of them as well.
Stupid fuckers/business people/ self important media tarts can forget peerages as well. They don’t deserve them and if they want to play Lords and ladies or Lords and Rent Boys they should do it in their own home and not expect everbody else to put up with it!
No – we need MPs and cabinet ministers with some backbone.
….and 4 legs and a cupboard
Not wishing to add further to the cynicism of these times, but can someone please explain to me who it was calling for 3 cheers for Gordon Brown at the photoshoot with La Lumley and the Gurkhas ?- I thought Gordie was responsible for blocking the resolution to their issue, yet all of a sudden there seemed to be a surfeit of well produced posters giving thanks to the Chappie, and hoorays all round. Could this have been Central Office Moles at work?
Of course
We have no shame
We will lie, thieve, decive, smear and pillage until the last minute
Rely on us we are NU LABOUR
And where is my chum Ally Campbell ??
Has someone shot him by any chance ?
And my old friend Tony “the Crook got off scot free” Blair ?
He’s rather silent nowadays – perhaps he had fled the country
Any news ?
Hello Mandy
Sold you mother yet ?
You still have that mortgage to pay off on your £ 2.5 million Palace you know..
I’m going to be charitable and say that it was down to magnanimity in victory. Rather alien to Nuliebour, so we have’nt seen much of it in public life recently. Seeing it from Joanna Lumley and the Gurkhas was rather refreshing – slightly restored my faith in human decency.
Are the John Lewis ads on the site a coincidence? Suppose they’re feeling the pinch.
‘Nadine Dorries’ is an anagram of ‘Inane Disorder’.
Says it all, don’t you think? Pip-pip!
Do rider insane
De Radio Sinner
Jail this pathetic lying cheat.
Trying to get sympathy by saying you’re stressed.
She is not half as stressed as the public are at finding out we have been robbed!
What’s worse is that we have to watch while the guilty parties keep robbing us for another year before we can stop and fire them!
There leaders are incapable or unwilling to stop them stealing from us now!
The ultimate insult is yet to come though when the Cheating MPs and Peers return from there holidays and the PM along with other party leaders will just say it is not in the public interest for the police to investigate the theft of public money as it was all within their corrupt rules!
Nadine does indeed need a holiday.
It is said that Dave has had a word with her and told her to wind her neck in and then she denies it on her blog…Odd!
http://www.catosays.blogspot.com/
HAVEN’T YOU ALL MISSED THE POINT?
What would happen if you faced disciplinary action in your employment. Whether guilty or not guilty you would suffer some stress. If the stress was too much what would you do? You would go to your NHS GP who might arrange counselling, which you might receive in a few months time.
NOW PEOPLE, these fugging troughers run the NHS so WHY, WHY, WHY are they not in the hands and vagaries of the NHS?
So now they are not only receiving private healthcare but WE ARE PAYING FOR IT FFS.
ARE THEY ABOVE THE NHS?
GIVE THEM NO PITY FOR THEY HAVE NO SHAME.
Sorry for the capitals but this makes me very, very angry. What have they ever done to deserve special medical treatment?
PS
If a suicidal MP came crying on my shoulder pouring out their troubles, I would take my hankie out, tear it in two and stuff a half in each ear to muffle their constant whining.
If they needed my support they could have it for as long as it took them to put their head through the noose.
Just go down to the basement and have a smoke next to the KNO3
The Mail is whinging that some of the Speaker candidates have claimed approx. £120 k over 7 years for their accommodation. That’s approx £17 k pa. Fail to understand the problem. I’m letting out a small flat South London for £10 k pa, so my tenants’ costs are £12-13 k ish ( adding poll tax, water, insurance, standing charges …) An MP having a slightly better flat, in a more central area, seems about right to me. Am I missing something ?
So why do they “need” a “better” flat in “central” London. These Troughers have to learn to LIVE in their constituencies where their families and spouses or partners should be. They can STAY in an moderate accommodation in outer London and commute like the rest of us.
Only when they live like us and depend on the public services that we have do can they start to represent us.
They must be representative of us to represent us.
Who are “us” ? The Beeb had a single mother on benefits interviewed asking why an MP had spent £100 + on a wardrobe when she could get one at £35 in the second hand market. Is this what you want MPs doing ?
As a middle manager in a decent sized private company, and also in a previous role as principle civil servant, that’s not the sort of deal I would accept.
Sure, the MPs we have don’t deserve good remuneration on the basis that their performance is crap. But the answer to that is to vote competent people in.
Anonymous
Ooooh, you wouldn’t accept it. Hark at you.
Everybody else has to accept it.
Whinging sells papers.
They might have to cull 1/3 of the stories if they’re reasonable.
I gave my Senators the choice :
Either commit suicide
Or be fed to the (Tamil) Tigers in the Coliseum
In front of the contented People of Rome
THUMBS UP
OR THUMBS DOWN,
CITIZENS OF BRITAIN
IT IS YOUR RIGHT AND YOUR CHOICE
pursue them relentlessly; let worry deprive them of sleep: prosecute them
without delay and ensure they return to the public what they stole from them.
give the same thought to them as they gave you when filling in their
expenses claim form. grill them – baste them – skewer them and then roast
them on a spit…..but do it in a humanitarian manner.
If the Commons had done that after the first day of Telegraph disclosures, they would have wrecked the DT’s circulation strategy. But they preferred to lie low and hope it would pass. Serves them all right.
guido
the media are not asking and we need more questions to find out more about the activities of the PM gordon brown, who seems to have three properties, with the one not in use set aside as his second home (i believe this may also be the property that he gave his wife, and claimed £6000 for cleaning payed to his brother) is the PM claiming second home allowance for interest payments? also it appears that the PM is claiming expenses for sky sports, is this for his second home, guido can you get more info on this, because the DT and the rest of MSM seem to scared to.
Is it Dolly raper who is doing the counselling??????
She’s useless. I don’t like saying that but she seems shrill and shallow, quick to self-promote and justify the shameful behaviour of her colleagues.
Remember that Nadine said, on her blog, that most MPs “live a normal, frugal existence and struggle to pay the bills”.
She’s clearly lost all idea of what normal life is like.
She doesn’t need a holiday, she needs to spend five years doing a normal job. Hopefully the next election will make her.
Remember that Nadine said, on her blog, that most MPs “live a normal, frugal existence and struggle to pay the bills”.
She’s clearly lost all idea of what normal life is like.
She doesn’t need a holiday, she needs to spend five years doing a normal job. Hopefully the next election will make her.
———————————————————–
Just like all the Tory MPs then.
Only Labour MPs have done real jobs like John Prescott (ship’s steward).
Only Labour understand the plight of ordinary hard-working families.
Come the next election, Gordon Brown’s big clunking fist will make Cameron weep.
That’s one who had a job thirty years ago, and he’s more hardshagging than hardworking.. What about the other 350, from Brown downwards?
What a ridiculous generalisation
Two Arses Prescott was not a steward. He cleaned the galley utensils on the ferries, encased in wellingtons and oilskins to protect him from the several inches of crap he was standing in. There’s nothing wrong with the job. It’s just the huge exaggerations in his cv that cause the problems.
You mean another year of smearing lies and fraud from the Prime Minister who has disgraced Britain with such scum as MacBride in no 10 ? Hide you head in shame you vermin…
Didn’t JP also develop a whole streetful of properties in a nothern town?
How come you can’t use yor own name you fuckwit? Clocking on your name takes mr straight to Labourlist.org.
Isn’t there enough shite on there already?
I don’t think they should withdraw the whip from that Dorries woman.
Quite the reverse.
Quite. Wittiest comment.
I was listening to her bleating on radio 4 as I drove into work, what a silly moo! Pathetic. Stressed? I’ll show her fuckin stressed!! stuck in a traffic jam at 7.30am on the poxy M3, caused by yet more roadworks, that’s stressed. Unlike her and her shyster fIf this poor mite of an expenses fiddler is expecting us the mugged tax payer to feel the least bit sorry for her thieving, tax avoiding, greedy, flipping colleagues.. then she’s mad as a hatter!I think of at least 10 of them who should be in jail right now!
Please take your disgusting misogynistic comments elsewhere.
nothing misogynistic there. do stop embarrassing yourself with your lack of intellect
Are you saying that she should not be subject to criticism because she is a woman? Or are only men able to be criticised ? That is misandry ( hatred of men) in case you didn’t know you ignorant feminazi bitch !!!
Stress, what does that useless bitch and her parliament of whores know about stress. Talk to the “hard working families” that Labour cry crocodile tears over they know fucking stress is, jobs going – struggling to pay bills and mortgages, seeing tax go up every sodding minute to pay for socialists bullshit policies, paying £5 a fucking gallon for the car to get the kids to school – yes a bog standard comprehensive school – that the spawn of the labour ‘elite’ will never go to.
My hatred for the whole political class, and labour in particular, grows by the second. Can’t wait for one of the cutns to come to my door I intend to add to their ‘stress level’ enormously.
Canvassing for the troughers is going to be a highly entertaining sport.
I cant wait for mine ( if he dares ) to come wandering down my road and asking me if he can depend on my vote.
The only way he will get away unscathed is if he has a 20 strong bodyguard and then they will quickly be chased off the streets.
They have not got a clue between them, how bad its going to be yet.
In all fairness, she was a nurse before she became an MP so she does know what underpaying is all about.
Guido’s masterplan has backfired!
The Telegraph expenses scandal has damaged all the main parties equally.
Before, it was “We’re fed up with Labour so we’ll vote Tory”
Now, it’s “We’re fed up with both so we won’t vote Labour or Tory”
LOL! Go Fourth!
make your mind up. you just said it benefitted Brown. Are you schizophrenic?
Feeding trolls encourages them to post.
(Unless you fancy a bit of troll-baiting, of course!)
Yeah I know, but I’m just in the mood to wind him up a bit…
Remember, it’s not fair to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.
Fun though.
Ha ha ha
NewGirl,
Nadine Dorries?
Any explanation?
At least Baroness Uddin actually has two homes unlike Mrs Dorries.
Wasssup? Cat gotcher tung?
Hmmm. I would have assumed from the name and the caption that Guido’s master plan IS to damage all parties equally. So why has he failed?
It’s a lot worse for labour.
Out of the top 20 troughing MPs – 2 are tory, 2 are liberal and the rest are labour.
This was printed in the Sunday Times. Hopefully, all the Sundays will publish it, just to remind everyone who the biggest troughers are.
I notice the BBC is being very biased on the PM programme tonight – concentrating on the tory troughers, when really they should be concentrating on those actually holding power – Smith, Hoon, Blears, Purnell, Darling et al – how are these front bench fraudsters getting away without any publicity???
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO PAINT MOCK TUDOR BEAMS ON PREZZA’S CAMPAIGN BUS ??
THAT WILL BE FUN..
who said anything about suicide?
They knew how to phrase it in 17th century:
Text from Killing No Murder
To his Highness, Oliver Cromwell.
To your Highness justly belongs the Honour of dying for the people, and it cannot choose but be unspeakable consolation to you in the last moments of your life to consider with how much benefit to the world you are like to leave it. ‘Tis then only (my Lord) the titles you now usurp, will be truly yours; you will then be indeed the deliverer of your country, and free it from a bondage little inferior to that from which Moses delivered his. You will then be that true reformer which you would be thought. Religion shall be then restored, liberty asserted and Parliaments have those privileges they have fought for. We shall then hope that other laws will have place besides those of the sword, and that justice shall be otherwise defined than the will and pleasure of the strongest; and we shall then hope men will keep oaths again, and not have the necessity of being false and perfidious to preserve themselves, and be like their rulers. All this we hope from your Highness’s happy expiration, who are the true father of your country; for while you live we can call nothing ours, and it is from your death that we hope for our inheritances. Let this consideration arm and fortify your Highness’s mind against the fears of death and the terrors of your evil conscience, that the good you will do by your death will something balance the evils of your life.
excerpt from killing No Murder 1657 – A justification for assassination (wikipedia)
well, nadine, if you live by the sword…..
Anyway, she was crap last week on QT.
And she clearly isn’t up to the rigours of the job. She needs to get a grip, or get out.
Can you imagine Maggie whining about counselling? Or Widdicombe?
And she clearly isn’t up to the rigours of the job. She needs to get a grip, or get out.
Quite right, she’s a barking mad liability. If I was Dave I think I’d be posting her P45 about now.
Maggie Thatcher made 3 million unemployed and presided over the criminal destruction of the coal mining industry.
She is a self-described “conviction politician”. Well, she certainly deserves a conviction.
oh sod off
Tony Benn closed more mines than Maggie!
Some of the other Tories did get convictions, and did their time.
Seeing that there is only one Tory MP in the 12 “most expensed” MPs it looks as if we will be getting a lot more “conviction” Labour MPs soon. Or should that be “convicted” Labour MPs?
The miners made thier own downfall by making themesleves too expensive – hence coal was uneconomic to mine due to the labour costs – and we were fed up of subsidising it. The legacy or Gormley and Scargill – they are the ones who sold the miners down the river.
Gordon Brown presided over the destruction of the British Economy and the creation of 2 million unemployed (and still counting) and he’s still got another year to go…….
TWAT!
just came across this curtesy of toenails blogger
PM gordon brown, claims for lightbulbs(GBP15), satellite TV subscription(GBP372), food(GBP650), painting and decorating(GBP1396), kitchen refurbishment(GBP9000?), childrens window blinds (GBP105 – rejected), claiming twice for a plumber’s bill, maintainance on his Fife home, his declining of the use of a grace and favour flat as Chancellor instead charging the GBP650-a-month mortgage interest payments, utility bills, council tax, telephone expenses and television licence for the Westminster property to his Commons allowances, ‘switching’ his second home claim before becoming PM, allowing him to claim GBP1000s extra,
The problem is that , by sheer force of habit and tradition, they established ancient right to the public purse. They wanted to keep it all secret and continue gorging themselves, but the public found out. Now they’re looking for a smokescreen.
In what period did Brown decline a grace and favour place? I thought while Tony Blair was PM TB occupied the residential part of Number 11 while Brown occupied the PM’s flat in Number 10?
How many hard working members of the public have been driven to suicide by the stupid laws/regs these pillocks are responsible for? Thousands? More? I’d be more than happy to chip in for some rope for the troughers at this point. They havent got a clue what goes on the real world. I have yet to meet anyone anyone who isn’t considerably stressed to some extent…
It’s time we killed off the political class and impose maximum terms, say 10-12 years, for ALL MP’s. After that they get booted back into the 9-5 grind, as regular joes to live with their policies. It might actually provide them with an incentive to do a good job.
Nadine Dorries is a gift to Labour. She’s all over the media today whinging and whining about a “McCarthy style witch hunt” etc. She was so bad on Radio 4 this morning that even that odious creep Stephen Pound was able to take the moral high ground, much to the delight of Labour’s shills at the BBC.
She is clearly just a publicity-obsessed narcissist who is taking the heat off Labour’s far worse thieving.
I feel sorry for Cameron. He is doing a great job tring to deal with this scandal but people like Dorries and Steen are stabbing him in the back.
The expense account shopaholic, Peter Luff, is another one all over the airwaves full of self-pity and totally lacking in remorse. These people need deselecting.
Yes he`s the opposite of his mate Julie Kirkbride who has fiddled interparliamentary expenses with him. She`s keeping quiet.
KIRKBRIDE NEEDS DESELECTING OR WORSE BUT SHE`S PALLY WITH CAMERON.
Nadine Dorries is an example of why the Tories will always be unelectable.
Go Fourth!
Oh do tell us what Moran and Blears are doin for Labour then, Troll
Smith, Blears, McNulty, Hoon, Purnell – just to name a few in the current excuse for a Cabinet…. Sigh!
Go “Fourth” – isn’t that where Liebour are going to finish ?
Go forth yourself and die you illiterate Liebour fuckwit.
Hey Dave if you or any of your minions are reading this do your party a big favour and dump this whinging bitch now.
I’m frequently stressed. Self employed though, so no time for sodding counselling…funnily enough.
“Self-employed”
No wonder you’re the only person who would ever want to employ you!
I certainly wouldn’t hire you for my business.
suits us both then tosspot
General election, you are fired, Harmallmen.
“Can’t you say something constructive”
“Scaffolding”.
Coz your wife would have to approve, and she doesnt approve of anything you do right now.
Feeling better Guido? You must be because you’re stringing actual sentences together
She’s a stupid woman.
Subrosa, that is hate speech. Why don’t you post your real name and address here and see you defend your comments in court.
Why don’t you take your name and addresses and shove them where the sun doesn’t shine? And yourself, for that matter.
why don’t you HH?
Is Harman Hardwidge your real name then?
FFS! I hope not.
Why don’t you post your address here so we can send all the minicabs and pizza delivery people in your neighbourhood round to you?
We expect our MPs to recognise what is wrong within their constituency, what is wrong within legislature and what is wrong with this country and then campaign to put things right. Admitting that all MPs knew the expenses system was wrong but that the Fees Office briefed them in a wink wink, nudge, nudge style that it was in lieu of ‘poor’ pay only goes to highlight their failure as our representatives in parliament. We want MPs to identify the issues and have the courage of their convictions to stand up against corruption and failing policies and sort it out.
I’ll easy get another year in, no problem. My plan is this;
1. KEEP SPINNING – drop the word moat in to every other sentence so the tories take their share of the flack; keep the real criminals (McNulty, Hoon etc) out of the spotlight; keep pushing the myths like we don’t get paid enough and it was all within the rules until they become accepted truths.
2. BUREAUCRACY – commissions, committees, inquiries, keep kicking it all into the long grass until you just all give up the will to live.
3. BRASS NECK – just brazenly tough it out, there’s fuck all you can actually do about it at the end of the day.
4. BACK STAB – I’ll sacrifice anyone I need to if it comes down to it, don’t you worry.
Something’ll turn up in the next 12 months. You’ll not be getting rid of me that easy.
Chumps.
ps
I’ll call it the “National Plan”.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1184626/Ministers-backing-October-election-PM-prepares-national-plan-Britain-recession.html
The Tories are just as bad as Labour.
This expenses scandal has benefited Gordon Brown. No vote is better than a Tory vote!
GO FOURTH
Taking everything into account all the worst thieves, crooks and chisellers are still Labour:
the non-mortgage fraudsters: Chaytor, Chapman, and Morley
and
the property speculators and tax avoiders: Hoon, Darling, Blears, Purnell
This is the most serious stuff so far.
The expenses scandal has WHAT???? You are hilarious. sorry, until I read that I didn’t realise you weren’t trolling, just taking the piss!
Before the expenses scandal everyone was talking about the PM’s leadership and whining about the economy.
Now they’re talking about something which affects all 3 parties equally.
It’s not rocket science.
195. And yet brown is handling it very badly.
I’m fairly convinced that this “Harman” is Derek Draper. Its the crap one liners that suggest that to me more than anything else.
FUCK ME WHO LEAKED THIS AS ITS OBVIOUSLY GENUINE ???
Hitler was convinced that ‘something would turn up’ and it did of course, a million red army troops!
Hitler was determined to leave his homeland a scorched earth wasteland if he lost, he thought his cronies would stick with him to the bitter end!
Hitler was a mental defective on medication, he was prone to screaming fits of abuse and thought he was infallible!
Gordon Brown, just like Hitler?
You are describing Thatcher, ‘we are a grandmother’, ‘we will not allow the reunification of Germany’.
Her tragically flawed psyche and the amphetamines (vitamins, cough, cough) got her in the end.
Could it possibly be that his real name is Braun and that he’s the result of some hideous genetic experiment by the nazis ? It would certainly explain a lot.
Breaking News
It looks like Micheal Martin will not be resigning as an MP until the next election thus allowing him to continue on the gravy train and letting Brown avoid the difficulty of a by-election.
he has no fucking mandate to be an MP. Typical. They just keep on taking the piss.
More Gravy for Mr Speaker!
We are all fools.
Let’s just revolt and get it over with.
Thts because theres no point in having a by-election with a GE 1 or 2 months later because the GE is going to be before October, so he’s been told to wait until then.
MM won’t attend the chamber between standing down and GE. So will be paid for nothing. Bet he will still claim for expenses and whatever else he can grab. Nice work if you can get it.
I thought that lunatics were barred from Parliament. Or is that just from standing?
Dorries is a fuckwit who should never have been allowed to stand. She was picked in a hurry by the constituency party after the MP dropped out suddenly.
She is a loose cannon who needs sorting out quickly by Cameron or she will just carry on giving ammunition to Labour.
That would certainly bar you then.
Haven’t you got a job yet, Draper? Knowing your IQ and utter loser tendencies I suggest you move to Liverpool and claim incapacity benefit.
standing? that’s all he can do when its full
They’re allowed in so long as they can lie on the ground without falling off.
Guido
How did we get here ?
Having robbed us blind, our MPs are humiliating us in public
They have :
No courage
No honesty
No humour
No class
Nothing…
TOTAL DISASTER
And we can them MPs ?
Wish we could “can” them !
Lol, she’s a love, isn’t she?
Calm down dear, it’s only a local and European election.
Have a cup of tea, Naddy darling. And a few prozac pills.
Nadine needs to go easy on the booze. Giving interviews while half cut is not very sensible.
She’ll end up like that daft mare from Peterborough if she’s not careful.
I think if MP’s got drunk before interviews we would get more honest answers, albeit with a few slurred insults alongside them. But at least we’ll get some truth out of them for once.
A triple whiskey should be mandatory before climbing in the hot seat.
stressed???????
ffs!!!!!!!
i am stressed!!!!!!!!
my company closed and i cant get a job.300+ applied for!!!!!!
living on £65 a week!!!!!!
then i hear these hoons bleating on….and lying………
there is no money for re-training,except for bricklayers and drivers……..
my job centre advisor told me that there were no driving jobs within 15 miles of my home……….and brickies have little work……..
i applied to take a tefl course………but i was not allowed to do it because it would take 4 weeks………..and THE RULES SAY THAT I WOULD THEREFORE NOT BE LOOKING FOR WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
odd how rules work differently in the Utopian Kingdom.
I hope all the troughers kill themselves……..
Nadine Dorries is wrong on this
MP’s are vermin, she should try the stress of running an engineering business, 30% increase in costs because of McFuckups economic policies, 40% decrease in business because of McFuckups economic policies, spewing industrial quantities of cash on redundancy payments to lazy arse workers who would have been sacked a long time ago if it were not for legal protection from Nu Labour. Just changing the VAT rates and then changing that back again is mentalism
MP – no sympathy
Too bloody true. I’ve decided the only way I can restore my business to solvency is to encourage the staff to murder each other. Desperate times need desperate measures.
Just make sure they don’t do it on company premises or there’ll be hell to pay with the health and safety inspectors.
Point taken. I was thinking along the lines of postage stamps tainted with hemlock. If I could despatch one lazy bastard that way, while implicating the other, I could save £60k in salaries and sidestep £30k in redundancy pay. It’s the right thing to do.
Pressure builds for an early general election
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5369056/MPs-expenses-Gordon-Brown-under-pressure-for-early-election.html
Maybe Derek Draper will offer his ‘professional’ services?
I completely understand how upset and betrayed many ordinary people like you are feeling right now. However I truly believe that Labour remains the only party that offers real hope to hard-working people.
Vote Labour on Thursday 4 June 2009.
Every vote will count in the elections on Thursday 4 June. Why? Because Labour stands up for the hard-working British people – not just to help people now but to plan for recovery, renew our society , and reform our government for the future.
Labour is working to win the fight for Britain’s future.
David Cameron’s Conservatives remain firmly rooted to doing nothing. They have set themselves against providing real help now for families and businesses.
The Tories would make Britain weaker not stronger for the future.
The choice is clear. Vote Labour Thursday 4 June.
NO
Great parody there, really great!
Nurse…
I’d rather screw myself in the arse with a chainsaw than vote for Labour. You have got to be completely off your rocker.
he he that tickled me!
It must take years of training and experience to be able to write drivel this meaningless.
Not really, just the genuine belief socialism works and that no matter what happens Keynesian economics is flawless – its all akin to Keeping Scientology Working in its dogged pursuit of madness, no matter the cost!
Dolly, dolly, dolly.
We’d thought you had resigned. Go and have an ice cream and get over it.
One thing I have noticed over the last few days is just how inarticulate our ruling classes really are – when questioned or making a statement regarding the current difficulties they seem only able to babble incoherently, fail to answer the questions, avoid any personal responsibility or empathy with the electorate.
I have heard more believable tales from individuals I have found myself having to sack as a result of their own serious misconduct, sadly only to frequently associated with expenses fiddling.
I find it all rather sad and dreary -
Drivel all you like you troll!
Serious advice:
The chances of getting anyone here to vote Labour are close to zero.
If you really believe in the Labour cause, you should try and get back former Labour voters who are deserting you for the B NP en masse.
You are wasting our time and your own coming here.
“I completely understand how upset and betrayed many ordinary people like you are feeling right now” ???????????
Ordinary people? How patronising can you be?? You haven’t got a clue what people feel, because if you did, you would know when to zip it!
“Because Labour stands up for the hard-working British people” ?????
No! Labour takes the taxes of the hard working British people and I think we are all aware what they have been doing with the money.
I have rarely heard such delusional, condescending, alienating crap.
You are a dalek. However, it is you who will be exterminated in June.
Poor Nadine. I know life is unfair and we should not be charitable to women we find attractive just because of that, but there it is. Whose excuses do you prefer – Nadine’s or Margaret Beckett’s?
Besides, Nadine seems to be a typical dipsy blond and we need more of those in Parliament.
You disgusting sexist. If you were here in front of me I’d lamp you.
Tut! Tut! Calm down deary. Go and make a nice cup of tea and sit down to do some knitting. There, there.
oops. just realised. am supposed to be offended a la Harman. sorry. keep forgetting I’ve been liberated. Told you I was dipsy.
Aren’t you lucky to have a nice friendly troll to stick up for you, New Girl?
And then I’d have you arrested for GBH, you thug.
Yes aren’t I? Bless. No sense of humour though, the trolls. Though they do make me laugh.
violence is the response of someone who has los tthe arguement.Anyway Nadine Dorries is a very attractive lady.Beauty and brains and I would certainly give her marks out of ten.
yes, Tricky, that’s why they ought to give me a seat. You don’t get much dipsier a blonde than NewGirl, trust me!
** Pedant Alert ** ** Pedant Alert **
IMHO the word should be ditzy as in “acting really dumb and innocent” not dipsey as referring to a fishing weight or Dipsy as in Teletubbie.
Sorry, had a HH moment there.
Pedant Alert ended.
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rather proves my ditsyness tho….!!
Cheer up friends
I have just asked the New Labour Impressario Lord “Titles” Levy to create a reality/comedy show for me….
The Stars will be chosen by the co-conspirators of Guido’s Blog
from among the hundreds of thieves, buffoons, wannabees and frauds in both Houses of Parliament
You will split your sides laughing…. I am laughing already…
This will be the box office hit show of next season..
So please start voting on the “characters” tou want featured…
THIS IS GOING TO BE A BLINDER
Anthony Weaver has commenced a private fraud prosecution in Redditch Magistrates Court against J Smith for fraudulently claiming expenses of C £170k on a second home which is in fact her main residence.
The magistrate has advised Mr Weaver to approach the police in the first instance.
Mr Weaver says he has a witness that will confirm that Ms Smith never spent more than three days per week at her main residence, a box room in her sister’s house.
File all criminal complaints in your local Magistrate’s Court now please
The Met are trying to shuffle them off on the Parliamenary Standards Committee
This is a clear effort to cover up
So file your criminal complaints locally now…
With the local Police or Magistrate’s Court
It’s all in your hands now citizens
And this psychiatrist is being paid for by us poor taxpayers as well???? Sometimes you get the feeling that MPs are just showing us that they are going to spend more of our money BECAUSE THEY CAN.
Wanted new members of Parliament.
Starting Next year.
Name your own expenses and pay.
Previous experience must include
Lying
Deceit
Accounting irregularities
Voting for the highest bidder
Good at dealing with difficult public
Able to deny everything
Good at distracting the public
Wanting to work in a low pressure environment and willing to do FA for the public or anybody really except you!
If interested please contact your Conservative, Labour or Liberal party.
WHERE IS BLAIR AND CRONIES:::::ALLSHREDDED NO DOUBT:::CLEVER B***STARD
How come there are still only 62,000-ish signatures on the “resign” petition? What’s wrong with the British electorate? I really would have hoped for a good few million by now.
It is explainable if it is being restricted.
Better to do it on an independent site like Facebook.
Eg………. http://www.facebook.com/groups.php?ref=sb#/group.php?gid=65809932574
Is it being restricted? Although I wouldn’t put anything past the tossers we have in government, that sounds like just a crazy conspiracy theory to me.
It’s because the government never ever did get round to fulfilling their promise to put a puter in every home!
Right now people are angry with politicians. Whatever party they belong to, MPs should never have spent taxpayers’ money on clearing their moats or swimming pools, or paying phantom mortgages – and it’s even worse when ordinary families are worried about the impact of the
Gordon Brown is taking decisive action against Labour MPs who have broken the rules.
That may not be enough for some of you and I quite understand that.
If you don’t want to vote Labour then you have that right. We live in a free country after all.
But I would urge you to stay at home, rather than vote Tory. The Tories have also abused the expenses system and are just as guilty as Labour MPs.
Bit of a cock-up on the cut’n'paste here methinks Hardwidge, you missed out the,
” blah, blah, graphic, blah, blah, Gaming, blah,blah, 60fps.”
Next comes your all-time favourite cut’n'paste
“Fuck off Troll”
Brown is trying to cover up and stall things, he is a disgrace.
We still haven’t had an answer as to why he claimed thousands of pounds for a London flat and a house in Scotland when he has been living in Downing St. for the past 12 years.
Why Charles,Charlie you have changed from being a Computer Professional to an all out different guise, I keep thinking I have seen your witterings before I wonder tra la
Facts:
Labour are stuffed – that’s why you want voters to stay at home.
“A sizeable majority of voters say Gordon Brown has handled the crisis over MPs’ expenses badly and most believe David Cameron has dealt with it well, a Guardian/ICM poll reveals”
Con – 39%
Lab – 28%
LibDem – 20%
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/18/guardian-icm-poll-expenses
You’re quackers
“Gordon Brown is taking decisive action against Labour MPs who have broken the rules.”
Yes, so he is. I did laugh when I saw him giving his press conference about that. When asked what his definition was of “broken the rules”, it was pretty clear that his definition of what the rules were was so wide that there wasn’t much danger of many MPs being deemed to have broken them.
Blears still has her job. What more is there to say?
Correction – we used to live in a free country before ZaNuLabour got in.
Harmon hard up,
McMental is shielding his crooked thieving cronies, Blears/Ball/Cooper/Darling etc all being protected by the prime mentalist.
Try harder!
Sorry I failed to notice the decisive action – Are you by any chance a member of the Labour Party? I only ask because of the constant drivel you deliver reminds me of the sort of young shouty politico student who goes from school to uni to parliament without actually experiencing real life.
I would suggest if you want to catalyse real change you go and do a stint with VSO or some other worthy organisation where your eyes may be opened to reality and you can really contribute to society.
Labour sadly have done little to deserve any further opportunity at running the country.
Enjoy the weekend
I would have no sympathy for Andrew MacKinlay, the attack dog Labour member of the Foreign Affairs committee, whose callous and aggressive questioning of Dr. David Kelly may well have played a significant role in the latter’s suicide.
He didn’t murder him though.
I never said he did.
Kelly was though unmercifully hounded by NuLabour’s, pro-war attack dogs, some of whom are heavily implicated in expenses gate.
Andrew Mckinley has since realised that he was tricked into attacking David Kelly and has since said that he would never trust the Labour Government again.Along with kate Hoey and frank field he is the only labour m.p.with any decency and I hate the Labour party!!!!!
He was murdered, he could of brought this government down singlehandely thats why they got him out of the way, Hans Blitz was warned off too that it would happen to him if he didn’t shut up bleating to the UN.
Dave’s letter to members is arrogant in the extreme and fits with smell of panic from Tory HQ. Have any old Eton boys been really punished yet?
oooh yes and I’ve still got the scars!
He won’t touch Bill Wiggin de Friggin in der Rigging MP (Con) who can’t find any receipts and claims twenty three times for a mortgage on a house with no mortgage.
Oh yes, Bill Wiggin de Friggin in der Rigging MP (Con) went to Eton!
Your predictions of doom and gloom for Labour are media hype and nothing else.
Let me hit you with some COLD, HARD FACTS:
Irwell Riverside, Salford: Council By-Election Results:
MATT MOLD (Lab): 606
Steven Middleton (Lib Dem): 293
Gary Tumulty (BNP): 276
Chris Bates (Con): 189
Rob Mitchell (Green): 125
Duran O’Dwyer (UKIP): 123
Turnout: 17.5% (9,332 / 53,326)
Look at the turnout you troll! The NoneOfTheAbove Party won by a massive landslide!
Be fair. In Salford they’d vote for a squirrel if it wore a red rosette. Oh….that’s a point……………They did!
17.5% turnout ha ha ha …..truly representitive then?
You loon
Salford.
Solid Labour
they’d elect a three legged donkey
And the turnout was low.
Wonder how many postal votes were counted?
All of them?
I make it 17.3% (1612/9332). Total percentage of electorate voting for your shower: 6.5% (606/9332) in one of the most hard core traditional labour seats in the country. It’s not just us posting on Guido that despise labour, it’s the whole country.
Drowning men will clutch at straws – you desperate, desperate little twat
Steve that was quite frankly the best example of Hammer time i’ve ever seen.
62,365
The BBC are already siding with the distressed MPs. Simon Mayo was refusing to read out emails and texts because, he said, they were too aggressive. This issue is already falling down the menu of news items. Reluctantly, they have to return to it because of continuing coverage is necessary….The BBC don’t get it either. They along with all public services, local councils etc will hopefully feel the blast of change and challenge as the expenses row cum strain on democracy continues.
The BBC got both barrells from the public and media today, 96% of people polled told them to fuck off about paying for their iplayer service/internet tax with only 4% being BBC employees supporting it via the metro’s poll.
Every commentator in the Daily Mail Online and almost every paper online and in print in the UK except the Guardian where some lefties are whinging in it’s defense has called for the license fee to be scrapped over the License fee increase of 3% they want to impose with the Tories tell them No it’s not happening.
The BBC like the Labour party is in it’s last days and the smell of death is around as the birds of a feather flock together for their last vestiges of life.
what Nadine described on Jeremy Vine was a conspiracy to defraud the revenue by using non-allowable expenses in-lieu of salary.
Any other organisation, and there’s be serious jail time in sight. But not with this bunch of thieving Hunts
Your predictions of doom and gloom for Labour are media hype and nothing else.
Let me hit you with some COLD, HARD FACTS:
Irwell Riverside, Salford: Council By-Election Results:
MATT MOLD (Lab): 606
Steven Middleton (Lib Dem): 293
Gary Tumulty (British Nationalist): 276
Chris Bates (Con): 189
Rob Mitchell (Green): 125
Duran O’Dwyer (UKIP): 123
Turnout: 17.5% (9,332 / 53,326)
With an extremely low turnout compared to the usual.
“The first result from the Salford City Council local election on 1 May 2008 was published at 23:50. Total turn out for the city was 31.3%.”
Source Salfotd City Council.
Almost half the turn out for 2008.
If you didn’t win in Salford the you would really be in the mire,the place is benefits city (yes it is a city).
Apologies, vote for Irwell was “Turnout 20.6% ” in 2008.
Does anyone live there?
Irwell, as in “Ir well I spose I’d better vote Labour again cos I need the benefits innit”
Labour down to 30% from 50% last time. It was their rock solid muslim vote that saved them this time.
Yes, I’m sorry. I realise that all my posts here are completely wrong and I will faithfully vote for the Tory toffs in future.
Yes Nu Labour Muslim Republic of Salford ?
Someone say it was in England ?
Whats wrong with Tory Toffs?
You obviously voted for a Labour Toff, one Antony Blair.
“After attending Durham’s Chorister School from 1961 to 1966, boarded at Fettes College, an independent school in Edinburgh.”
Quote from New Labour’s favourite source Wikipedia.
Good post – Labour trolls conveniently forget about their own toffs like Blair and Harman (niece of the countess of Longford) when trying to dish the dirt on the Tories.
DT – “Populus put the Tories on 39 per cent, 12 points ahead of Labour. That would be enough to give Mr Cameron a working majority in the Commons.”
Labour doomed.
QED
But everyone knows that Salford is a Rotten Nu Labour Borough you twit…
17% turnout ?
How do you get 9,332 votes cast ?
It looks like total votes cast were about 1,600 !!
Is Nu Labour rigging the vote now as well !!
Labour : 606 votes out of electorate of 53,326 = 1.1% !!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are clearly quite mad HH
Nurse…
Salford and Nu labour made for each other. One shit house party for a shit house city.
I think 53326 is the number of voters in the constituency, whereas 9332 is the ward electorate and votes cast were 1612.
Harmon hard on,
Are you Alistair Darling? because your sums dont add up!
Charles,Charlie somebody further down the thread has done the calculation
I get it to 1,612 voted on a turnout of 9,332/53,326 (your figures) you really should put the flags out, fancy getting 1,612 people to turnout to vote and 606 voted for your beloved party, wow we have local democracy in action.
That’ll be 1.14% of the voters in Salford.
Cool.
Nadine Dorries today denies that she has a holiday home in South Africa. If that is the truth, then why is it listed on the current (May 20, 2009) updated internet register of Members’ Interests?
To see it (pdf format) go to House of Commons Register of Members’ Interests and download 20 May 2009 pdf
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm/cmregmem/memi02.htm
Quote:
DORRIES, Nadine (Mid Bedfordshire)
8. Land and Property
House in Gloucestershire, from which rental income is received.
Holiday home in South Africa.
If she no longer has either property then she should inform the House of Commons!
BTW the pdf of Members’ Interests is a great read! It has all the MPs interests listed.
Dorries is a shamefaced liar.
You clearly haven’t learned at the feet of the great Derek Drapester, as one should these days. Watch for dodges like a holiday home in the name of the other half, and not in her name; though she might derive benefit from it, is may not her actual asset. Plus you need to see how she defines “holiday home” – the words can be intended to have different meanings dependent on context. A Register of Interests holiday home being entirely different to an Inland revenue holiday home.
“I did not have rental property with THAT woman.”
Gotta watch these people.
Just sent her this Post to publish on her “porky pie” blog entry
“Nadine……. You have registered the following in the Register of Members Intersts dated 20.5.09.
“DORRIES, Nadine (Mid Bedfordshire) 8. Land and Property House in Gloucestershire, from which rental income is received. Holiday home in South Africa.”
How can you claim NOT to have a holiday home when you declare it publicly. What on earth is going on.
Please publish this on your site as it will appear on Guido’s Blog.”
So will she explain or Spin again?
Instead – her site is down
The thing is though. Who’d you really rather have running the country.
Do you want these wimpy, goody two-shoes who do everything by the book, or do you want some streetwise scamming troffer who knows how to get what they want?
It’s a big bad world out there and perhaps the scumbags have more chance of doing better for the country than the wimps.
That’s why the country is fucked, drowning in debt, ridden with crime and resembles a third world shithole in many towns and cities.
Mugabe is even more streetwise than our lot.
“Dat’s cos I is Black”
10 years they have really done well, for themselves anyway, so the answer no.
Just look at those who didn’t troff. It’s mostly Lib Dems and the old left of the Labour party, people like Martin Salter, Frank Dobson, Hilary Benn and that bloke in Luton etc.
Most of the Tories and New Labour types are all troffers.
So if you want clean people then you’re looking at Lib Dems and the old Labour left.
Is that what you want?
Fuck off crack head
After listening to thius, we all need a holiday:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/video/2009/may/22/toynbee-test-harriet-harman
Here you go, Nadine…
http://www.schematherapy.com/
And may I be so bold as to direct to points 10 and 11 as below…
http://www.schematherapy.com/id73.htm
I thought she was a ‘tory tigress’? Sounds like a shrieking, hysterical mad woman, whose done a lot more damage to herself over the past few days than anything Dolly or McBride could cook up. How entertaining!
If she’d shut her mouth in the beginning she might have had a chance, but she’s contradicted herself and the facts so often now she’s fucked out of her own mouth.
Can’t wait to see what Dave’s Star Chamber has to say about it all. I’m sure trhey’ll get to her when the more important MPs have been tortured and trialled.
And anyway she needs someone to proof her copy before blogging; someone with skills in the old literacy field would be a help.
Maybe she could hire someone on exes
IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Said the policeman to the politician.
“Dat’s cause I is Black”
cock-up reply to #263
i kinda agree with her…its becoming like a fecking side show now…and im getting a little annoyed with the “coverage”
(funny that it takes a large amount of chimay blonde on a friday afternoon to make things clear)
im now starting to think that this was all planned by labour , looking at last nights itv/itn poll that put labour up 1 (27%) and tory down 5(39%) ?? (im a bit pissed and cant be arsed to check !!)…how the hell can labour go up 1%..when its them bastards that have been in the trough most (..not forgetting the tory moats, duck island, and manure)….but according to the MSM…the BBC (and i have to admit SKY..and i like sky news) put more into reporting the “tory” troughing
the “lead” that cameron has shown is far and above anything that brown has shown…yet to the MSM the sun still shines out of labours arse..it sickens me……..i fear for our childrens, and our childrens, childrens future..that the MSM, dead tree press are still “on side” with labour (do we realy want a one party state, a one party with socialist, marxist, communist ideology….i know i dont)….yet we throw our hands up in disgust at what goes on in zimbabwe…and china, and north korea, yet we are happy that our government and media, treat us with so much contempt, (and strip us of our rights)
the laws are fucked..if you deal i little dope, or dont pay your council tax you can go to prison for 10 to 15 years…yet if you kill a kid (baby p)..you recieve between 3 and 12 years, what the fuck has gone wrong with our once great country…we “ruled” half of the fucking globe once…now we are a fucking laughing stock, our credit rating is about to go pop, we will have to work till our deaths to pay back labours missgivings…yet we sit back and take it, as long as we can get cheap beer and wine from tesco..and watch our 42″ tvs
orwell was right about the proles…cheep beer, lottery, and vice kept the proles happy, so they didnt fuck up the system
but the proles now have laptops…..but we just post on blogs..and view free porn (along with the cheep booze)
national strikes are the only way..every one stop working for a week..we could manage..the government couldnt….then make it 2 weeks, untill they get the message
the government WANT us to riot…to bring about the CCA, then we will all be fucked
we dont work, they get no money, they cant function…we win
a change i needed now…not next fucking year,
pissed up rant over…back to the beer, and my big tv (shamed to say…we are all proles now)
TV ….This opium you feed your people……
In the Marquis de Sade’s Juliette, published in 1797 (trans. Austryn Wainhouse, 1968), Sade uses the term in a scene where Juliette explains to King Ferdinand the consequences of his policies:
Though nature lavishes much upon your people, their circumstances are strait. But this is not the effect of their laziness; this general paralysis has its source in your policy which, from maintaining the people in dependence, shuts them out from wealth; their ills are thus rendered beyond remedy, and the political state is in a situation no less grave than the civil government, since it must seek its strength in its very weakness. Your apprehension, Ferdinand, lest someone discover the things I have been telling you leads you to exile arts and talents from your realm. You fear the powerful eye of genius, that is why you encourage ignorance. This opium you feed your people, so that, drugged, they do not feel their hurts, inflicted by you. And that is why where you reign no establishments are to be found giving great men to the homeland; the rewards due knowledge are unknown here, and as there is neither honor nor profit in being wise, nobody seeks after wisdom.
I have studied your civil laws, they are good, but poorly enforced, and as a result they sink into ever further decay. And the consequences thereof? A man prefers to live amidst their corruption rather than plead for their reform, because he fears, and with reason, that this reform will engender infinitely more abuses than it will do away with; things are left as they are. Nevertheless, everything goes askew and awry and as a career in government has no more attractions than one in the arts, nobody involves himself in public affairs; and for all this compensation is offered in the form of luxury, of frivolity, of entertainments. So it is that among you a taste for trivial things replaces a taste for great ones, that the time which ought to be devoted to the latter is frittered away on futilities, and that you will be subjegated sooner or later and again and again by any foe who bothers to make the effort.
YOU ARE MISSING THE BIGGER PICTURE – THIS IS MOMENTOUS
In case you haven’t seen this yet.
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/05/looking-wrong-way.html
In that sense, the furore about “expenses” is entirely misplaced, and dangerously so. It obscures the greater deceptions and systemic problems, while giving the executive – with the ready agreement of opposition leaders – further opportunities to weaken parliament.
Of course, the claque does not want to hear this, lapping up the theatre and positively revelling in the lurid disclosures, offered to them daily by a media which is conspiring with the Telegraph to paint an entirely false picture. Thus, rather than the claque – which is but a parasite feeding off the media and reacting to it – making the running, it is being left to old-fashioned journalists like Camilla Cavendish and Booker to piece together the real story.
Feck Orf!
Spin and propaganda.
Jackie Smith being done for fraud by a member of the public.
Great!
Fraud Act 2006 apparently can be used to take your local MP to court.
I’m going down the court in Watford next week to get Claire Ward arrested for her “within the rules” crimes if possible!
Get the crooks out of their over paid jobs please.
Nothing will happen to Jacqui. She will get a rap over the knuckles and that will be that.
The juducial system is very close to parliament and I would be very surprised if anything more were to happen.
Lord Elphus as you do so, call Watford Observer and ask them to send along a reporter. Good copy. Good luck and well done.
If Nadine needs a holiday, does Jacqui need Holloway?
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/smithshame/
Absolutely.
Thieving cow.
She’s crazy but she’s right.
How beautiful that GuidOrc Oaf’s ‘Tory Tigress’ has turned around and bitten the party in the arse.
The sun has got his hat on hip hip hip hooray…..
Oh and tell David Cameron to remember to rebuke no receipts and no mortgage swindler Bill Wiggin de Friggin in der Rigging, OK?
Don’t forget Mr Brown’s statement “…….no time for a Novice” and so it came to pass that Mr Brown showed that his party were certainly no novices when it came to shameless fraud.
“And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?” Matthew 7:3
I’ll repeat a point made to Hardwidge:
The chances of getting anyone here to vote Labour are pretty close to zero.
If you really believe in the Labour cause as a good and moral one, you should try and get back former Labour voters who are deserting you for the B NP en masse. Their supporter are all over various blogs, and easily engageable for argument.
You are wasting our time and your own time coming here.
Ennui.
“If I were the new Speaker” by Daniel Hannan – I mucho like:
“Tradition holds that the Speaker must, above all else, be impartial. But I do not promise neutrality. On the contrary, I shall be the most biased occupant of the Speaker’s chair since the Glorious Revolution. I don’t mean that I shall show favour to any party or faction in this House: my impartiality in that regard will be total. But when it comes to the privileges of this chamber, I shall be very partial indeed. If you elect me, I shall be your champion against the executive.
Never again will you hear the Speaker ticking off hon Members for questioning ministers too robustly. On the contrary, this Speaker will make a point of ordering ministers back to the Despatch Box if they have not answered questions properly. This Speaker will never connive with Government Whips, neither against the Opposition nor against backbenchers from the majority party. No more will this Speaker tolerate the way in which laws are made by Orders in Council and Statutory Instrument rather than publicly, in this chamber, by the people’s tribunes. And this Speaker will not suffer the working conditions of hon Members to be regulated by an external agency: the only agency fit to regulate this House is the electorate.
My first act will be to convoke a Speaker’s Conference on how to reassert the independence and integrity of the House of Commons. That conference will explore ways to restore the sovereignty of Parliament, by taking powers back from ministers, from quangos and from courts, domestic and foreign. It will look at how to remove the patronage powers enjoyed by the Prime Minister under Crown Prerogative, and how to make appointments through open parliamentary hearings. It will examine ways to reduce the powers of the party Whips. The terrible truth is that it has become almost impossible to have an honourable career simply as a parliamentarian. As long as every backbencher aspires to become a frontbencher, this House will fail in its primary role: to act as a check on the Government.
I realise that my words will strike many hon Members as revolutionary. The Speaker is, by convention, conservative rather than radical, a moderate, a defender of the status quo. But the status quo is no longer defensible. The dignity of this chamber has been vitiated. Our constituents are giving up on politics and politicians. Nothing less than the legitimacy of representative government is in the balance. Hon Members must act with a decisiveness proportionate to the gravity of our predicament. We shall not regain our moral authority until we first assert our political authority. That task must be undertaken by this House as a whole: I offer myself to be its instrument.”
You must be fecking mad, Hanan. We only pretend to want change.
I love Hannan.
Madshipmann Dandandan,dan! Hannanananan is almost as useful to Labour as Nadine Dorries.
Sink the HMS NHS, that’s his motto, a true vote winner, for Labour!
MB. Things must be getting desperate inside the NuLabour group if you are relying on the enemy Tories to save you now.
Three cheers for Anthony Weaver. Isn’t direct democracy/action grand?
Hear Hear.
and Nadine thinks she is stressed what about this poor lady??
“A mum was left trying to dig herself out of a hole after finding her 3 year old toddler daughter had bought an earth-moving digger online.”
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090522/tod-new-zealand-mum-in-online-auction-ho-870a197.html
Oh dear….
She needs more than a holiday. She needs a good rodgering. Obviously she’s frustrated and stressed.
Send her to Island for a little holiday!
And tell her to put a rabbit on expenses!
That should have been Duck Island.
My olde Pa used to tell me that most MPs were as bent as a brewer’s brush.
I now know that he was completely correct and I should have taken more notice of him.
The phrase my Dad used was,
“They’ve got more turns than a bag of hooks”
Firday Afternoon update. With corpse warning
I wonder if this ‘Labour MPs on Suicide Watch’ mullarkey is Gordon’s way of preparing to terminate one or two MPs’ careers with extreme prejudice? Think of the benefits to him:
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I wonder if this “Labour MPs in Suicide Watch” mullarkey is Gordon’s way of preparing to terminate one or two of them with extreme prejudice? Think of the benefits to him: there would be a huge wave of public sympathy, the Torygraph would have to dump the Scamalot story and he would get revenge on those who have made him angry.
And he wouldn’t even have to do anything illegal. All he’d have to do is invite them round to No 10 for a chat and then talk to them for a couple of hours or so. No ordinary mortal would be able to resist the temptation to top themselves when faced with that sort of torture.
Yesterday I was expecting a Sun headline of:
‘Cameron says: ‘Duck Off, Viggars’!
What has happened to the great Sun headline writers of yore?
To the blonde lady below: could you please put that finger away – I think I know where its been
I reckon I could give Nadine all the relaxation she requires……………
AGE BEFORE BEAUTY SO I GET FIRST GO ON HER, YOUNG MAN.
Oh hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
From @LabourList
121 Labour PCs have now committed to a pledge of ethics that binds them to integrity, transparency, accountability and honest financial economy throughout their campaigns and during the stays of any Parliament should they be elected.
Their statement of intent can be read below. Any PPC who wishes to sign the statement or who has pledges of their own should contact Jessica Asato on jessica@progressives.org.uk or on 07939594634.
Dear Jessica I suggest you seek alternate employment, you will be a jolly happier person for it in the long run
Jessica, you’re flogging a dead horse, luv.
Alternative, I think.
Ped, Mea culpa!
Make way, make way. That’ll be me that will. I don’t want to blow my own trumpet but heck, I did this before anyone and I’m clean.
Diddums.
In the private sector most people have the threat of redundancy hanging over their heads every day, with directors constantly implying “hey; work all the hours god sends for no overtime or you might be the first one out.” And that’s for people who have a perfect record.
MPs are moaning about being hassled for committing fraud.
They’ll get no sympathy from me.
nor me silly cow
And what about those two scumbag liebour Peers that have gotten away scott free by the BBC? For years the BBC scum have wanked on about Tory sleaze and ‘cash for questions’
But now two Liebour fucking Peers have been caught at exactly the same thing the BBC ignores it.
Could you imagine if it has been Tory Peers?
And forget the Duck island, why didn’t the BBC pick up on that fucking jock Hunt Tam Dayel’s 18 thousand for a couple of bookcases? The Duck island never got paid, that jock Hunt did’nt get 18K for his book cases, but he did get about 7K
Fucking BBC.
Join the rest of us and don’t pay your licence fee anymore it’s the only thing the Hunts understand.
If I’m not mistaken Mr Weaver could have applied direct to a magistrates court for a summons rather than the County Court from a warrant
Slightly OT, but one thing really puzzled me when I heard Hazel Blears say recently that she was “getting on with the job”.
What does a “Communities Secretary” do, exactly?
She visits the Nu Labour Islamic Republics in Salford, Luton, Bradford etc
and the Nu Labour Scottish Catholic Rotten Boroughs
To organise the POSTAL VOTE
And what else ?
Speak to the “returning officers” there…
All very sinister…
Nothing like Nu Labour Ethnics you know
It’s their last hope…
Wouldn’t it be funny if the Tories went into the election with say, a 14% lead, and then unaccountably lost?
I do of course mean in a funny peculiar way.
And if the Tories did lose it’d be stupid arrogant idiots like Steen (who actually think they can mouth off against the electorate who employ them for daring to actually criticise the way they spend OUR money to fund a life style that the majority of MPs would be hard-pressed to enjoy if they were employed in any other job than politics) who would be to blame .He should be booted out of the Conservative Party now and NOT allowed to just retire at the next election with a tax free pay off and pension like all the others who decide that Moats and Duck Houses are essential to enable them to do their job.These people are the reason why the Tories have been out of power for over 12 years.
The looks after the Nu Labour Tribes……..
In their Tribal Areas…………
Make you think of anything ?
That’s why Lu Labour are going INTO TRIBAL MODE
Very simple really…
OT, but a fucking good question
Nice Try Mr Weaver
If the whole country did it to all the MP’s do you think that they’d get the message?
So, Nadine, Steen, duck islands and moats go large on today’s media.
If the Tory’s are going with the idea that there is no such thing as bad publicity, they really are fucked.
They’re only just recovering from that other own goal inflicted by that silly cow Theresa May when she gave the opposition a very tasty stick for their enemies to beat them with, ie The Nasty Party. A PR firm would have charged a fortune for that little number, and she gave it away for free.
They should keep their heads down, like McNulty and Darling are obviously doing, as much of the shit that is going to stick will be by association.
After listening to Nadine on Today this morning here is a brief precis for those that missed it: “Everyone knew that MPs were underpaid. Being presentationally difficult to award a raise in a straightforward manner it was spun as necessary expenses”. So instead of lots of little fiddles it is in fact one great big one – and most if not all MPs were complicit with it.
I posted a similar comment on Nadine’s blog but mysteriously it never appeared.
According to the latest polls, this is starting to hit the Tories a mite worse than Labour. Could this have been the idea all along? Toffs, moats and duck islands certainly seem to be making the running in the public consciousness.
Extraordinary how stupid people are, if they think that sustained fraud by the most senior cabinet ministers is less significant than an inbred old fool with a duckpond. Explains the success of Get me out of here I’m a Celebrity, Big Brother, The Apprentice, Britain’s got Talent etc.
Brown Broadcasting Company certainly made a big thing of the ducks last night. All over the backdrop of the Newsnight studio. They showed it again and again and again.Not biased are they???
And Sarah Montague and Evan Davies almost wet themselves laughing on Today over the duck story. Mostly relief that they didn’t have to talk about Smith, Darling, Blears, Hoon, Purnell or McNulty.
While we are on the subject of the BBC and Politicians, and everyone is so hot under the collar about MP expenses as a waste of public money, where is the outrage over salaries paid to BBC staff ?
If MPs are overpaid on £70K plus perks then surely to God then the “talent” on BBC News 24 is not worth half of that, but apparently the most junior reader there gets the same. As for paying the likes of Dimbleby and Marr to peddle their Labour luvvie crap that really is a scandal, I would hapily donate their pay to the MPs to top up their expenses ! The whole public sector is overpaid, what about moaning about that all the time instead of the current whinge on MPs?
Time needs to be called on the BBC. It needs to be stripped down and sold off to raise funds for the UK.
Dorries says that MPs are human beings and do not deserve to be treated ‘like this’……she and the rest of them are just proving how far removed they are from the real world. We’ve been treated extremely badly by MPs and the system in this country for far too long. Nadine, your time is up!
Our Nadine can pay back any debts to society through personal services to each hard up male in the UK. I propose each male will get a coupon for 15 mins of time with Nadine.
We can’t have a natural beauty or national treasure like our Nadine doing hard time in the clink.
She’d certainly be getting it hard in the clink from me, the little minx.
Ah
just got it. Nadine is totally disillusioned because, as a Liverpool supporter, she had to watch United win the Premiership. She’s getting her coaching for sour grapes and dillusion from Rafa Benitez!!
Dat’s really ard luck der gerl – send er across de park
Anthony Weaver should be knighted for his bravery. Smith should resign immediately and face the music if she has any real backbone, and stay out of the Cabinet until her name is cleared.
Jacqui Smith has brought nothing but shame to the office of the Home Secretary. And that’s not including the porn film fiasco and the Nazi ID card scheme. Yet.
If I where a betting man, I would bet that Scotland Yard do absolutley nothing about Smith. My reasoning, they have done nothing so far, except a bit of huffing and puffing and the judge who heard Weavers case, needs a present of a plinth on his desk that says, “the buck stops here.”
It’s time the legal establishment of this country woke up to the mood of the country over this fiasco. What’s their measure of guilt or innocence, “what the average man in the street would think.” Get out of your ivory towers and do something about it you know what people think, your just too busy toadying to the politicians.
I blame the blacks there too busy squawking and playing the racism card to claim compo or futher their positions to get on with any real work.
Most of them are as bent as a nine bob note as well and are well connected players in the drug world and yet are untouchable and have the BPA to hide behind.
I think we have got to be careful not to scapegoat certain MP’s and thereby let off others. Whilst duck islands, moat cleaning and plant pruning at our expense are all hugely annoying, these insults are minor relative to the real injury – the pounds and pence we are being cost on ‘legitimate expenses’ – and we are at risk of scapegoating a few bad apples and letting off many more who avoided eye catching items but may have cost more in total.
The 10 MPs with the highest claims are the ones that annoy me the most. The others are irritating but just stupid.
David T Breaker
http://www.newsjunction.co.uk
Suicide watch – yeah would like a front seat watching the bent fuckers topping themselves.
Keith Vaz first please!!!
Why not save the best till last?
Why is Nadine Dorries so famous she was in the paper saying she was smeared? How was she smeared.
In my spunk. All over her face and tits. Yummm!
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TOM AND DGJERRY KAN DU BETTER THAN U
The little green book says, “The MPs signature verifys that the expentiture was wholly and neccassarily inccured in the performance of their duties” if after this warning you claimed for and signed for something that was not you have committed a Fraud .now you must deal with it . Think Mr CAMERON is saying fall on your sword
Don’t think anyone here Hates Nadine as much as Tim Ireland does.
Whoah!
Ireland is as bonkers as she is – possibly more.
Guido do you think you could persuade her to wear this
T-Shirt
Doesn’t she realise that there are hundreds of people out there who have lost their jobs and are about to lose, or have lost their homes. Pensioners who have had their income depleted. Small companies which have been built up over many years by their owners, at great cost to themselves, now going to the wall. Now that is a group of people, many of whom may be on the brink of suicide, who really deserve our sympathy.
Anyone else think Madine is whining becuse she has to face her Constituency Association and her Constituents after the Telegraph revealed this,
“The Daily Telegraph has disclosed that Miss Dorries had designated a house she rents in her constituency of Mid-Bedfordshire as her “second home” for the purposes of her expenses, even though she sleeps there during the week and her daughter attends a nearby school. She has claimed more than £18,000 in rent on the property.”
Troughing little Piggy.
It makes me angry to see BBC presenters dressed in all their designer finery, their jobs secure, completely immune to the ravages of the credit crunch.
Why should they be in that happy position when everyone else is taking a hit?
Let’s start a death pool!
Dolly Draper will be killed by Hazel Blears landing on his head after taking a ‘header’ off Big Ben!
At lunch
‘Guido has a lot of time for Nadine Dorries … ‘
Careful Guido, you’re on the slippery slope of losing all credibility … the woman’s as mad as a box of ferrets! Apparently, she says her heroine is Thatcher … ’nuff said!
Barking I tell you.
Barking maybe, but foxy with it.
At lunch today I met for the first time two people amongst a much larger group.
The first was an old Etonian (aged about 55 – very grand – very rich) who heard what I had to say and stated “do not under estimate Dave Cameron”. My reply “don’t over estimate him”.
The second was the wife of a Kings Scholar (OE) whose husband maintained that Bill Wiggin was considered the most stupid boy at Eton whilst he was there.
The general consensus appeared to be that the wives of the gentry are fed up with the MP’s story now.
Ringing in my ears was the comment by my MP who stated (before the scandal broke) “when all this nonsense over MP’s expenses is over…..”
God help us all.
A real revolution in Britain is long overdue
It is the only country in Europe where you can still tell someonone’s “class” by their accent…
And everyone is obsessed by “Old Etonians’…!!
When will you grow up ?
Cameron rebukes Tory MP over ‘McCarthyite witch-hunt’ comment
Nadine Dorries warned there were fears that an MP might kill him or herself, and said the situation at Westminster had become ‘completely unbearable’
David Cameron today rebuked the Tory backbencher Nadine Dorries after she accused the Telegraph of coming close to a “McCarthyite witch-hunt” with its disclosures of MPs’ expenses claims.
Dorries, who yesterday claimed there were fears that an MP might kill him or herself, said the expenses revelations had brought parliamentarians to a point that was “almost unbearable for any human being to deal with”.
Asked about her comments, Cameron said MPs ought to be more concerned about what their constituents were thinking.
“Of course MPs are concerned about what is happening but, frankly, MPs ought to be concerned about what their constituents think and ought to be worrying about the people who put us where we are,” he told the BBC.
There was clear anger among Tory high command at the latest intervention by the outspoken Mid Bedfordshire MP, with one senior source describing her comments as “completely wacky”.
Dorries also said MPs had in the past been encouraged by the fees office to count the additional costs allowance as part of their salary because their pay was not commensurate with their posts.
Ann Widdecome, a former Samaritan, said that Madine could call her if she felt suicidal.
It’s not uncommon for in denial fraudsters to fall into nervous breakdown as they feel the law breathing down their neck.
“The MP’s signature verifys that the expentiture was wholly and neccassarily inccured in the performance of their duties”
Where is the petition site that calls for the prosecution of every MP who has, on the face of it, committed fraud in this regard?
I not only want to sign, I also want the tea shirt.
Nadine Dorries behaviour and living arrangements need more investigation.
I criticised Nadine Dorries on her website about her attitude to Select Committees: ie not turning up, and had a reply.Since then, I have made further (critical) comment about her but Lo! The comments have not appeared on her website.After her recent awful performances of self- pity and poor judgement, should DC not consider deselecting her or at least giving her a concrete overcoat?
I’m happy to watch her behaviour in the bedroom and bathroom.
Anyone seen the movie Battle Royale???
Well if not have a quick read;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale_(film)
That’s exacatly what needs to happen to the MP’s.
Put all the hoon’s on a remote scottish island or the isle of man or cut a deal with the Barcalys or Jersey or something then televised with a few weapons and rations each and let them all fight each other to the death, The winner get’s to stay in parliament and as a MP.
It’s probably the best alternative way to populate the house of commons and pick mp’s instead off with elections that we all know are shams anyway.
Nadine Dorries has removed the ability to comment on her blog “for the Bank Holiday weekend”.
Nadine Dorries has removed the ability to hold her seat at the next election by her moronic recent comments.
I think I might put a bet on a hung Parliament. Dorries, Steen and Hogg have royally fucked it up for Cameron!
484, I hope you are right and that she is deselected as below standard
Dear Nadine – look foot mouth ; mouth foot
Bullingdon Dave is shitting himself he’s never going to become PM. What a shame.
Troll
twat
Government info officer,a neighbour,when asked if she would like to go away on holiday in October,said that of all the months in the last 4 years it would not be possible because,well,you know,er,um,whispers…you know what
Excellent. Get all these thieving Hunts out and a load of independents in. No to Dave, Gordo and Clegg! Fuck off you shits.
Alright alright. Boring politics. I want more stuff about Nadine’s pussy…
Don’t forget Jenny’s pussy…
***FREDDIE STARR ATE MY PUSSY***
Well we will have to have the beer fest moved over here then.
No I ate Ezer’s pussy years ago…
She overreacted…
As she is doing now…
Never of any interest really…
Just thinks she’s important !
… and her pert tits
http://www.dorries.org.uk/admin/blogdocs/jenny.jpg
YES PLEASE. Jailbait worth going to jail for.
Is Nadine putting in a pre-emptive plea of collective insanity? Well they’ve tried everything else. Can we section them all? I can’t believe that we are paying for the psychiatrist. Is this serious or are they taking the p*ss? I note that the idea of mental problems amongst our betters arose just after Anthony Steen gave us his summary of the problem and its causes (mainly us & our nosiness & envy apparently), he clearly is insane but doesn’t he have a GP he could see at his own expense?
A good weeks work, how many scalps are hanging from the tepee Guido?
I wonder how the economy is doing.
No. 486
Yes I rather fancy a hung Parliament.
Can we start wit Speaker Martin?
The BBC reported this evening, that a total of 92 million smackaroos has been charged to the public purse by our darling MP’s, for duck houses, moats, TV’s 2 & 3rd homes etc in the past financial year.
That’s a huge wad of dosh, an average of almost 150 k for every one of those bastards.
92 million would pay for alot of nurses, teachers & coppers, with a good lump left to pay a few merchant wankers a bit of a bonus
Climbing Onto Greasy Poles Is A Respectable Job, My Friend Peter tells me.
The BBC paid £72million in staff bonuses.
Just cos you guys fancy Nadine dont go easy on her.
Shes just using the next defence mechanism, suicide.
1. You must be mistaken
2. Sorry I must have been mistaken.
3. It was the system.
4. Fees office, yes its them.
5. Dont come any closer I am going to jump!
They are pathetic.
the judge was wrong. the summons should have been granted. his decision should be appealed.
Since we have to pay our MPs’ utility bills, may I hope that any MPs who resort to suicide will do the deed by sticking their heads in their gas ovens? That way, we’ll get a tiny bit of value for our money!
Come with me Nadine, all your worries are over.
And do me out of a job? Fuck off you black robed pussy.
Fneb.
Is Duck Island in public ownership now?
Gordon Brown will be making an announcement about this shortly. He hopes we will be able to save it for the country, in the country.
Anyone notice that John Wick sounds like me?
His spit the dog act was alright.
Psychiatric counseling?
Electric shock therapy more like. Preferrably delivered by a taser set to max :X
D’oh!
* Throws another ‘l’ skywards. *
Good man mr weaver
Formally jo public says And when exactly can we see the Police expenses come to light………………
have is been agreed definitively that mp’s are covered by the 2006 fraud act?
and if a crime is carried out in redditch why if the matter is fraud would it need to be referred to scotland yard so they can do a cover up.
no charge of the light brigade a la damian green here. instead they are reversing up the orofice of wastemonster at a steady rate of knots.
can they, even the lawyers amongst them, weasel out of it by saying they thought it was up to the fees office to advise them as they are too dumb to make decisions?
a charge i daresay that would be upheld in law after parliament’s performance in the last ten years.
Guido, Nadine has a bit of a thing for honesty. I for one am a bit uncomfortable to know that the DT are making a million a day out of our purchase. It seems a bit odd two weeks beore the Euro elctions, no? Add to this the fact that someone has trashed Nadine’s blog site a few hours after she mentions that the Barclay Bros may have other intentions than exposing MPs. I dont think she is trying to protect, I just think she is trying to give us all the wider more honest less Jack Daniels fuelled ranting picture. I appreciate that and God, do I think that woman has balls.
Whining balls ?
Even Widdie showed her up as a complete fool trying and failing to play the “poor me and poor us” victim card.
I’m surprised the DT is only making that much TBH.
It’s the scoop of the year if not many years and like so many other scoops you have to pay the piper.
Other Newspapers WERE offered it. Including, most amusingly, The Sun, whose “eccentric” Editor Rebekah Wade hilariously turned it down and had a bit of nervous breakdown herself when she realised the Telegraph were going to go full throttle on it. Rupert was most assuredly NOT amused.
Newspapers are now in an incredibly cut-throat market and any residual Party affiliations or leaning will take a very distant second place to the bottom line. And a scoop like this is money in the bank. Simple as that. No mad Barclay Brother tin foil hat Conspiracy required.
Madine has probably took her own site down after being bombarded by irate Taxpayer emails after her lunacy.
The public does not feel particularly sorry for Politicians right now (to put it very mildly indeed) and thinking even for a microsecond they might was babbling madness on an out of touch scale that defies belief.
It’s obvious why anyone would have time for her. Honesty gets you nowhere though. Who is that guy in the Telegraph video? Did anyone believe that? I swear I have seen him in an advert or a soap or something.
Politicians are a pretty tough bunch. Hard as nails and about as emotionally sensitive as a 100 year old tortoise.
You have to be tough to survive those long boring evening meetings, the sleep deprivation, the alcohol abuse, the terminal tedium of sucking up to your local party at various functions, and the endless energy drain of bonking your secretary/ministerial colleague – plus filling out expenses claim forms.
I tried to think of a single MP who has ever committed suicide. I can’t think of one.
Stonehouse FABRICATED a suicide – a true politician.
No, I don’t think we have to worry too much about them.
That said the whole thing has been strung out far too long. MPs are human. Humans will tend to make the most of any system offering free goodies (hence our epidemic of single parents). Only naive folk who thought MPs were more moral than the average citizen are really going to be shocked by these revelations. OK I was naive – but I’m not now! Certainly it’s less shocking than thinking of Major having Currie in his socks over the ministerial desk.
Telegraph – shut the f*ck up and let’s get on with real politics again.
The point is we need to reform the system. It ain’t rocket science – a flat rate allowance will stop abuse at a stroke.
Much more interesting has been the opening up of debate about our constitution. David Starkey’s proposal that we move on to full blown separation of powers on the American model has a great deal of merit. However, we have been so ill used by the judges in the UK that I feel we need to democratise the judiciary.
That should have been “Major in his socks having Currie over the ministerial desk” – that’s bad enough…the thought of Currie clad in Major’s socks is even worse!!!
You make excellent points about the emotional sensitivity of Politicians but I have to part ways when you speak of the Telegraph moving on.
Well they won’t for a start because they paid for that disk and they are going to milk it for all it’s worth and even if they did suddenly decide to drop it only a third of the way or so through the names, our enterprising SAS chap would just move on to a more obliging Newspaper for a small fee.
Besides the MP’s were banking on this being a 5 day wonder, making some placating Pious noises and then going back to business as usual. The longer this goes on the more certain it is there will be big reforms like those Starkey spoke of.
It is not an endless story but as finite as the number of MP’s in the House, which as Starkey and others before him have said, should be reduced.
And the MP’s made the system. They cannot seek refuge in it’s flaws.
Few indeed are the jobs where people are alowed to make and then “enforce” the system of renumeration and perks. Which is another of the many reasons why the public is so furious.
Politics will of course go back to the usual dogfight and the last PMQ’s was notable for it being surprisingly Yahboo as it used to be.
But please Sir, no more Major/Currie imagery. I beg you!
Ex-president Roh Moo-hyun of South Korea has just committed suicide by jumping off a mountain. He, and members of his family, were under investigation concerning their involvement in a multi-million dollar bribery scandal alleged to have taken place whilst Roh was in office.
You certainly haven’t cornered the market in corrupt public servants, but I sort of hope we have cornered the market in those prepared to go to such extremes.
Where has Nadine’s blog gone? 404s on every page? Did someone delete it?
“The Daily Telegraph has rang Central office and asked them to ask me to remove my blog and not to mention the co…”
>>has Rang<< Cut off in mid sentence.
My hat goes off to you Anthony WEAVER. The best of luck with
your attempt at Prosecuting her.
Would bloggers please note that Jackboot Jacqui has SIX bellies
now and should no longer be referred to as FiveBellies.
Nadine shouting the odds in the Indescribablyboring:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/nadine-dorries-this-is-a-witch-hunt-ndash-the-torture-must-end-1689753.html
…and getting it in the arse c/o the comments section. Stupid cow. Cameron needs to sack her now.
Lifted in it’s entirety from The Indy message board:
witch hunt by northernnorman
I am not paid what I am worth either. Successive government’s have lacked the political courage to pay me my due (in terms of my experience, education and responsibility). Trouble is, I don’t have the opportunity to fiddle an obscene expenses system to make up what I believe to be the shortfall. In truth, I can’t even get expenses for the most basic things I need to do the job.
That is the trouble Nadine. That is why people are so angry. It is both the fact of the fiddling and the jaw-dropping conceptions of what is ‘reasonable’ AND the fact that MPs of all hues have spent decades clamping down on ordinary workers and criminalizing poor people who survive by doing a bit on the side here and there.
Now you are all waiting for the e-mail. So where has your party stood on hounding the ‘benefit cheats’ – or on exhorting the rest of us to grass them up? What has your position been on the inexorable rise in the prison population over the last four decades – and don’t pretend that the prisons are full of ‘real’ criminals. unlike yourselves. Thousands are inside because they made mistakes, screwed up, tried to take a shortcut etc. Why should we have any sympathy for you all when it is now your own cheating and fraud that is suddenly about to be exposed.
Both major parties have consistently dismissed criticism of the surveillance and punishment society that they have spawned with the mantra – ‘if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear’. So what is it that MPs are worried about?
Of course the media are appalling. Of course it may be desperate for many individuals who don’t deserve it. But that is the game you have all been playing with real people for years. It is no bad thing for MPs to experience what they and their media allies/enemies have, for so long unleashed on others.
Friday, 22 May 2009 at 11:35 pm (UTC)
Yo reckon if one of them were to commit suicide, they’d put the cost of the rope and the cyanide pills on expenses?!
As anyone else noticed that Nadine Dorries’ defence is in essence the same as that put forward by the Tamil Tigers (not that I’m implying that her alleged offence is in any way comparable to theirs). MPs do wrong and Nadine says it’s “cruel” for press & public to keep going on about it. The Tamil Tigers use terrorism to try to obtain their objectives, then say it’s “genocide” for others to fight back.
There must be a name for this technique of trying to portray the victim as the perpetrator: “deflection”, perhaps.
Nadine suppresses critical comments on her blog.
That gives an insight into her way of thinking.
Just another example of what MP privilege really means:
Wikipedia: A privilege—etymologically “private law” or law relating to a specific individual—is a special entitlement or immunity granted by a government or other authority to a restricted group, either by birth or on a conditional basis.
For the rest of us, the Government passed a retrospective change in the law in the 2009 finance act (Budget Note 66) to make certain claims against double taxation relief against the law backdated to 1987!. This resulted in a magic set of extra backdated tax due and years of interest for tax that is now retrospectively late – (as the tax was (now is?) deemed to have been due years ago for those affected if you can believe that), why can this not be applied to MPs expenses?
Stephen Timms (the Treasury Minister) explained at the time that the government had the “right to use retrospection, as in this instance, where it is fair, proportionate and in the public interest to do so.”
If this does not count as fair and in the public interest I don’t know what does.
Lets face it – Democracy is a sham and we are all getting shafted.
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
Following my application for a summons against Jacqui Smith at Redditch Magistrates’ Court last Friday (Fraud Act 2006), I shall not be following the advide of District Judge Bruce Morgan to contact the Metropolitan Police.
My new application for a summons will be heard at City of Westminster Magistrates’ Court,Horseferry Road,SW1 on Friday 26th June at 9.45.
The law does not require any police investigation and the Commissioner is on record as saying the police have more urgent calls on their time.
I urge anyone who believes their MP to be guilty of fraud to mug up Section 2 (1) of the Fraud Act 2006 (very widely drawn, making fraud easier to catch), pop along to your nearest Magistrates’ Court to lay an information and request a summons. No fee is payable in criminal proceedings and the maximum tariff on each “limb” of the offence is ten years’ imprisonment.
Stop asking “When will be police get involved” ! They haven’t even got involved yet with the two Lords caught in the Sunday Times sting,saying onto tape how much money they needed to table amendments !
Prosecute the MP yourself ………..
You’ll find that the defence “The House of Commons Fees Office told me it was OK” will not stand up in court…..
Unlike the mafia of mediocrity making up the internal committees/Star Chamber in Parliament, Justices of the Peace are from all political parties and most walks of life.
Find the address of your nearest Magistrates’ Court and get down there sharpish !
The woman is clearly neurotic and totally detached from reality. I liked her, not now. When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains however improbable must be the truth. Therefore, it can be only one reason why Guido gives Nadine far to much leeway. He fancies her! Come on guido, just admit it!