The disgraced outgoing Speaker has just announced the perks are going with him; no more plasma TVs, no more iPods, no more Agas, no more stamp duty, no more gardening, no more taxpayer funded buy, renovate, sell scams, no more flipping designations, plus a limit on mortgage interest subsidies. If they stick to the interim proposals Guido may have to discontinue the porkbusting campaign. Apart from the show trials that is…
Piers Morgan is a Tory – Fraser Nelson
The Bunker Bod Funded Entirely by Unite – Standard
Welcome to the e-Election – John Harris
Mad Nad: Declaring War on Scantily Clad Women - Devil’s Kitchen
Cameroon Cliquishness is a Weakness – Matthew Norman
Youth Crime Stats Suppressed Until After Election – Indy
Factcheck: Labour Sure-Start Spin Untrue – Cathy Newman
Bercow Loses his Rag in Chamber – Paul Waugh
Cameron Casts Himself as Obama – Political Scrapbook
Brussels Attacks Darling Deficit Plan – FT
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Michael Gove said…
“There can be few more powerful forces of conservatism opposed to the flexibility, freedom and choice of the post-bureaucratic age than the Whelanist tendency now in control of the Labour party.”
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its enough to make me give up politics….
Not just yet NewGirl – we have to bring these people to justice first and see most of them voted out of office
Lots of work still to do.
In case you missed it Interactive heat-map of MPs expenses – all the stats for each MP compared by constituency
Yesterday I asked whether only Labour MP’s had benefited from “extended” mortgage interest payments claims, after mortgages had been repaid I suggest that this may indeed be so and the departure of Mr Speaker may be connected with this apparent fraud and as an attempt to “hush it up” ?
Anyone any news of MP’s other than Labour receiving the above “benefits” which would negate much of my argument. ?
and we have to clean up the Lords
and the BBC
and every quango
Plato – the “Heat Map” needs wider circulation it clearly shows all the troughing MP’s that Guido has been trying to expose. It is a fantastic tool!!!!
Plato
Excellent Map. Duly nicked and credited.
Thank you Plato – nice one.
If you like it – give it a rating to let other visitors know.
Wot, no hat tip?
Let us all bear one thing in mind. When the police get a full confession from a suspect they usually presume that the suspect is telling them enough that they will not enquire any further. Thus a ‘full’ confession or, as we have seen, a resignation may well conceal a myriad of further frauds against the taxpayer which Michael Martin has forstalled by resigning.
If the police have any morality and courage (and I for one do not believe that they do, given the craven way that they avoid any responsibility for their behaviour at the G20 riots) then they should take Martin’s resignation as an indication that there may well be further more serious frauds out there.
Party political broadcast by the LIB-Lab-Con-NWO party.
Brown on GMTV this morning an utter disgrace.
Now GMTV spinning like mad saying he new nothing, he was appalled as his daddy would have been and quote there would be no more ‘moats and manure’ notice no mention of labour mp’s there.
He siad it was only in the last few weeks he knew about any troughing and then said he would sack troughing MP’s then refused to sack his cabinet
Stated he was the only party leader taking action
Got in the tractor stats as well Hoon!
WTF?????? GMTV bought all this and reports it as fact. Please add GMTV to the same list the BBC is on
That map just clearly demonstrates that the Scottish MP’s, almost to a man, went to Westminster with one sole intention – lining their pockets. At last they are all united in their corruption – Charles Kennedy has just as high a level or public filching as any of Labour’s best.
Telegraph has been very quiet about Boris. I know he is not an MP anymore buy I would love to see his expense sheet. Is he a suitable candidate for mayor. I think we should be told.
He is off to the Lords with his bagpipes and once there will find some new fiddles waiting for him.
new chanters surely
I hope his tenure in the Lords will be brief.
I believe that this corrupt Labour Government has so decimated and weakened the Lords, by filling it with corrupt people. that the only option now is that the Lords should become an elected Senate .
There is a foul smell about these people -
1)”Troughing – Foulkes “;
2) Uddin ” This country owes me my property portfolio, my expenses and jobs for my undeserving family in the Housing Association that also provides me with my government subsidised housing at the expense of others who actually need it more than me” ( I hope she is going to be prosecuted soon)
3)”Lord Martin of – ‘I Havenae come into politics not to get what is mae doo’ -Gorbals ”
Please God they are all soon gone . What was it that Oliver Cromwell said ?
Please God Just GO!!!!
“What was it that Oliver Cromwell said “
Actually it was “let’s cut that fucking Scottish bastard’s head off”
Then we need to make sure that their are plenty of reeling Scots.
Me too.
There’s gonna be nothing worth going into it for.
I think maybe internet property scams could be the future.
what are the expense accounts like?
And you believe that its all going to stop?
Ok, next question. Do you believe that Edwina Currie is a virgin?
God I hope she is…for the sake of the poor bastard who shagged her…
Definitely, would you?
For at least the fifth time.
That cow told the world about her affair to publicise her book. How low can you get, common whore !
How low can you get?
Hazel Blears
I knew her before she was a virgin!
wouldn’t you like to know..
What has this got to do with pork?
err
so what exactly is the point of Sir Christopher Kelly’s Committee on Standards in Public Life review? How much is it costing?
First McSnot then McMartin outline extensive changes so now do they expect SCK will roll over and say yes fine pay me my review fee and I’ll crawl away – more of our money wasted.
PIG SWILL! do we still have to provide it for free?
These thieves have got to be prosecuted,there is no way they must be allowed to weasel their way out of this. Is it too much to expect the police to get off their backsides and do what WE are paying them for?
The police are much to busy for that . They are targeting the good british car owner instead
they will find another way
Throw a piece of meat to the baying mob,sate their appetite,draw the ire with a piontless EU ballot,business as usual
greater love hath no man than that gordon require him to layeth down his life before his own
We demanded accountability and an election to force a new intake of MP’s to DO THEIR JOBS PROPERLY
What have we got? Them not doing their jobs properly, but them abdicating responsibility to the “third sector” an unnacountable office with no oath and no democratic mandate!
THIS IS TERRIBLE!
THEY DO NOT GET IT!!! WE NEED AN ELECTION!!!
Gordon Brown says that Westminster cannot operate like a Gentleman’s club setting it’s own rules. Well yes it can, it has for hundreds of years and it worked just fine until Blair and Brown got their criminally corrupt and dishonest hands on the place.
We elect these people to operate and express OUR sovereignty on our behalf. They are NOT there to give away MORE of our sovereignty on the grounds that they fucked up! They should give us a General Election to PUT THINGS RIGHT! Give us our sovereignty BACK YOU THIEVING HOONS!!!
Brown is the most dangerous constitutional vandal we have every had the misfortune to have as a PM.
GIVE US OUR ELECTION YOU HOONS!
I remember the fuss Brown made of the book ‘Bringing Home the Revolution’ a few years ago, as though he was an admirer of real democracy. The only revolution he’s brought home is his version of the Bolshevik one.
What?
Gormless McBroon knows absolutely nothing about gentlemen. He certainly does not qualify as one for starters.
Gentlemen are articulate, educated, polite and have a sense of decency and fair play.
See the difference???
No.these little piggies are mere amateurs to be dealt with. The real fucking hogs are the MEPs and the whole of the rotten EU. Let’s turn our attention on them, as they are still slurping away at the trough. Let’s not forget that same trough is being filled and kept warm for plenty of our ‘disgraced’ pigs to feed on when the get booted out.
The MEPs are just the visible surface of the cesspit. It’s the crap beneath that we have to dispose of.
Presumably the new body (independent parliamentary standards regulator to be responsible for pay and allowances) will be a little more switched on than the Financial Services Authority, and display a little less bias to MP’s than the BBC?
The same old stuff, smoke and mirrors.
MP’s have broken the rules ”they made” in Parliament to enable those MP’s that wished to milk the system for all it was worth. Not just a few, most were at it!
These are the people who make the laws that tell us what to do on pain of fine or imprisonment.
Changes yes, but first sackings, fines or imprisonment, then recovery “with interest” of cash misappropriated from the UK Taxpayer.
Anything less is unacceptable.
It will as independant as Brown wants it to be,just like plod and the uncivil service,he will put his placemen in well before it opens for business,control the money and you control all of the MP’s
Let me get this right.
Trougher Martin gets to decide the rules MPs will play by after he’s left.
Trougher Martin gets to dismantle a 400 year old tradition of autonomy in the Commons.
Trougher Martin gets to shit in the nest as he leaves?
WTF? Was this the fat bastards quid pro quo then?
Its called “scorched earth” – Ed Balls has started already by abolishing KS3 exams and KS2 Maths exams – more to come no doubt!
The Union paymasters now want a return on their “investments”.
And totally FOI free.
No, these are interim rules and he’s not decided them, he’s been told to announce them.
Come next year the rules can change allowing everything all over again.
However, any MP who tries to relax the rules will find themselves confronted by a mob of very angry constituents.
The irony is, why couldn’t he have come up with these rules before? Simple, before they had to announce their expenses they actually thought they could get away with it.
This new office will not swear an Oath to the Queen…
It is ANOTHER chunk of the Crown’s authority being dumped in the “third sector”, now love or hate the Queen, her sovereignty is the ONLY thing standing between US and a total entrapment in the EU dictatorship. THAT’S IT, and there is more and more of her sovereignty being hacked off and moved into unaccountable quangos and corporations all the time. This is a way for the “third sector” to remove the Queen and OUR sovereignty on THIS LAND through her.
That is what this is REALLY about! WE the FREE MEN ON THIS LAND, have sovereignty and we express our Sovereignty by our consent to the Queen to be our sovereign. Without that WE ARE FINISHED!
This slow removal of our sovereignty is a coup by stealth.
This is problem reaction solution.
WE MUST HAVE AN ELECTION TO RESTORE PARLIAMENT!
So this is Blair’s ‘Third Way’? I always wondered what the fuck that was, now I think we know.
Quango, quango, lets all do the quango!!!
You quango if you like…mine’s a pint!!
If any computer game creators read this blog how about Resident Commons Evil 6.The best way to quench my anger is to walk around a virtual Parliament with a 12 bore blasting everything that moves.
No I don’t want them dead – I want them in Prison. It’s where you or I would be if we have perpetrated this level of fraud. (All within the rules of course, according to Gordon tonight!).
Do we think Gordon might get voted out at the next GE by the SNP? Please Sean Connery wouldn’t you think about standing against him – I’m sure you’d win!
Rab Nesbit gets my vote.
Something I scraped off my shoe earlier would be more likely to get my vote tha Gordon would.
A .410 would be better…..slower death!
Blunderbus?
Speaker Martin showed true dignity – a credit to his office.
He can barely read out loud. The man’s a disgrace to the human race, let alone Parliament.
Is that you kevin Barron? You sneaky little bastard.
That resignation statement must have been what, about 50 words, and he has to read that out. Not impressed.
What are you taking?
Is that you Kevin Barron? Sneaky little bastard.
Wrong sex – as a grandma – I can safely say I know no Kevin. Sorry!
ha ha good one!
Give it up Foulkes, FFS!
Foulkes??
He’s the loon who said on the BBC that Martin was hounded out because he is a Catholic!!
FFS.
He was hounded out because he is a HOON!
He wouldn’t be an MP for that constituency if he was NOT a catholic and if he wasn’t an MP he never could have been Speaker. He can’t have it both ways.
They don’t understand that sectarianism doesn’t travel south of the border.
Yes it does Mick you Fenian bastard. To paraphrase Blackadder, cold weather is just gods way of telling us to burn more Catholics. A guide to life in the Capital. And don’t get me started on the blacks, or those dirty Turks.
Poles are ok though despite the funny accents.
Unfortunately, Sir, my first comment was modded off (Brilliant).
So, I’ll repeat my comments in a more polite manner.
The Speaker has behaved appallingly, with no apologies or anything.
He is a disgrace!
Last time, I eluded that you may perform acts of oral love on passing vagrants & called you a complete See You Next Tuesday.
This time I will make such accusation!
You seem familiar in some way. Didn’t you ride some now semi-famous bird once?
Stop taking the Michael
Once this particular circus is over can we have a good go at the Beeb
fenman
DO THE BBC DO THE BBC DO THE BBC
DO THE BBC
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wan’ers
Totally agree about the Brown Broadcasting Corporation Further, the last thing we want is two superannuated birds from the BBC, Rantzen and Faulds Wood standing for Parliament.They are out of a job because they are too ugly to be on the TV. Our Esther has had far too much airtime in her life.Remember this was the woman who bought us cultural firsts – penis shaped vegetables and singing dogs.Also she introduced us to that scumbag Shaun Woodward. If my memory serves me well (although it was a very long time ago)she shafted that wonderful Irish Canadian Bernard Braden who had a TV show which she worked on as a junior presenter.
Vote for Selina Scott.
She is still a looker unlike those two.
Anything with dogs in it is OK by me. Anyone remember that dog who could say “Sausages”?
But no Ester Rantzen — just the dogs, lots more dogs.
Is Cyril Fletcher still alive? If so, where could he stand?
In the corner clutching his smalls. Bloody nancy.
Brilliant! Sadly the talking sausages dog is now certainly in dog heaven. Perhaps we could trace any decensants and elevate them to speaker, or PM for that matter.
I’d sooner hear a dog not really say sausages, over and over, than listen to those two spastic jocks bastardising the fine English language while they steal my English pounds.
ay up, someone call?
Yes the BBC will have to have its tax-payer (aka licence fee) funding scrapped.
If it’s so good, it will survive by subscription and the sale of its past products.
If it can’t survive on a commercial basis, it doesn’t deserve to survive.
Bad news for the Dimbleby dynasty I suppose, but there you go.
The BBC are now saying that a freeze on the license fee will undermine it’s editorial independence. What editorial independence? They’ve never been independent since the Dr Kelly scandal forced out all the free thinking journalists and replaced them with Labour yes men. Admittedly there weren’t many, but at least there used to be some BBC journos that had the balls to actually investigate the Government.
Abolish the propaganda tax now.
Have faith Guido, if there isn’t MP’s fraud to expose, there is always incompetence.
Plenty of work to do.
Every porky fraudster must go to jail, so next campaign is jailporkys, that’s going to take a month of Sundays.
A limit on mortgage interest subsidies ?
Oh dearie me. That would seem to have some very specific targets in mind.
Expect to hear much more about this one.
They will find a way around it, never fear.
“In Paris she was Fifi, the fairest of the bunch,
But back home on expenses she was petrol, oil and lunch.”
No mortgage interest, why should they buy second homes at our expense. Hotel rooms from now on or government owned serviced apartment building. These “reforms” are simply not good enough.
There’s always the Premier Travel Inn at County Hall.They have competitive rates for group bookings.Also do family rooms for the Cooper-Balls.It’s only a hop and a skip and a jump from HOC.
Tipping point
Guido
Agreed
BUT
We must watch these twisting criminal bastards like HAWKS until JUSTICE IS DONE
You know them – they will use every means to avoid being punished…
Please…
Gord’s Troughers’ Star Chamber will be ruthless and objective, never fear!
“Right McAvoy, wheel the next innocent in.”
“So, you acted within the rules, didn’t you?”
“Oh, yes please, Chief Whip, Sir, I did, I did.”
Good. Exonerated. And remember, you always vote as I tell you to. Next, Tommy!”
Plenty other Porky’s out there Guido including the EU Parliament.
Since The French are having a pop at us, quite rightly so too, it may be worth pointing out how their representatives do their own troughing especially at the EU.
Yes, well, it’s still not good enough. While we struggle with the recession and our own bloody mortgages, these people are having their cake, eating it and still claiming it on expenses. Not good enough by a long shot.
So stick at it, Guido: all this can be traced back to smeargate, when you disarmed Brown’s attack dogs and pissed off the telegraph. This is your show as far as I’m concerned.
It’s worth remembering, too, for what it’s worth, that a lot of these measures are Tory proposals – which means Brown was lying through his fugging teeth in his car crash press conference. He’s not long for the Westminster world. Thank god.
http://denverthen.blogspot.com/2009/05/car-crash-3-crash-gordon.html
Better late than never. If the silly bugger had done this a few weeks ago he would have gone down in history as the reforming speaker and people’s hero.
Please let me be the first to welcome our visitor from the Planet Zog.
He has had his head buried in the trough along with the rest of them. He will go down in history as a scoundrel.
Wooaahhh, I typed Cunntt..& it came out Hoont!
Utterly Brilliant.
What happens if I type Twatt??
you win a coconut
hugh with the ‘hilarious’ name.
Grow up.
I totally agree.
BTW, if you type in Twatt, you get Brown.
When I type in Brown, it comes out “cυnt”.
I typed in Hoon and it came out, you Hoon.
Try typing Cυnt
I typed in Hoon and it came out McNulty.
hey anonymous @99, how d’you do that?
The ‘υ’ is the Greek small letter Upsilon from the character map, should work if you copy and paste it straight from here.
Cυnt
By Jove, I think I’ve got it.
It’s because Guido allows Unicode rather than just ASCII characters in the comments
Hoon is a Cυnt
Hoon.
look CAREFULLY at the ccuunnttss that did make it though ;-)
“…More will I do,
Though all that I can do is nothing worth,
Since that my penitence comes after all,
Imploring pardon….”
W Shakespeare
King Henry V
Act IV, Sc I
I think I fucked up somewhere along the line.
A. Hitler,
Berlin 1945
first parliament next the BBC
the revolution has started
Then the British Potato Council
No, really.
There are 1,162 quangos in the UK, running at a total cost to the taxpayer of £64 billion , equivalent to £2,550 per household.
Even under the Cabinet Office’s restrictive definition of quangos, the cost of these bodies has risen 50% in the last ten years.
UK quangos now employ an army of almost 700,000 bureaucrats.
Even the Government itself does not know the full extent of the unaccountable quango industry, which range from the massive e.g. Job Centre Plus (Staff: 70,042, Cost: £3.5 billion) and the Courts Service (Staff: 19,986, Cost: £704.8 million); to the bizarre e.g. the British Potato Council (Staff: 49); or the West Northants Development Corporation (Staff: 34, Cost: £15.3 million)
When the total number of quangos is added to the other government subsidiaries such as local authorities and NHS trusts, the total number of organisations controlled by the UK Government rises to 2,063, costing the taxpayer £257 billion and employing over 5.1 million people
Absolutely right OH.
Order of dispersal:
government,
bbc,
quangoes,
local authorities,
state sector pensions (easy: pay them with a 95% pension tax bill attached)
Savings enough to offset squillions of squander by mcsnot, mcsnot & mcdarling, consultants to bankruptcy plc.
Absolutely right OH.
Order of dispersal:
government,
bbc,
quangoes,
local authorities,
state sector pensions (easy: pay them with a 95% pension tax bill attached)
Savings enough to offset squillions of squander by mcsnot, mcsnot & mcdarling, consultants to bankruptcy plc.
Yes, the quangos are a rich overlooked seam of serial troughing by the political classes, in particular Nulab placemen. Jobs and contracts. Just follow the money.
Well said, OH.
Today the House, tomorrow the Quangos.
Starting with the suggestively named “Dame” Suzi Leather, Queen of the Quangos.
It makes me wonder sometimes if half the population aren’t working as tourist guides in the Potemkin villages of the public sector.
Can anyone explain to me how a parliamentary standards regulator can be independent of the sovereign parliament? From where will it draw its authority if not Parliament – the EU? The Queen? The X-factor judges?
Totally agree, it’s entirely illogical.
Also what’s it going to be called – “off-trough”?
OFF-TROUGH !! Brilliant. Get that into the language.
Parliamentary Independent Group for Standards, (PIGS) is to be formed under the umbrella ‘OfTrough.
That’s precisely why we shouldn’t be rushing into things. We need a new regime, but a calm, logical one that can calculate the consequences of any action taken.
Unlike the LibDem call for us to all accept Kelly, outright, regardless of what’s in his report. Loons. Hoons. Madmen.
You are an MP. I claim my £10,000.
if you are not Glenda you have no opinion worth considering.
Fug off.
Calm down dear. I’m sick of half-baked measures and looney policies. A bit of common sense (remember that?) would be good.
Have a good evening, yourself.
Lard Boy Prescott still has not come up for air on the subject
Perhaps all that fat has finally dragged him to the bottom of Labour’s murky pond.
Hes got his far arse stuck in the new bog seat.
He did have time to tell itv hack to “fuck off”,he as a lovely turn of phrase, the fat twat.
He does – no doubt he meant that for all voters looking for honest people to vote for. We heard you Prescott.
*HORF!* I’ll be thur to give you all the beneficials of my expansive political wisdom int secund. *HORF!*
Let’s not ignore one of THE troughers of this whole saga. Why, I speak of none other than the Nuliabour chief whip, one Nick Brown, gopher and fixer for another Twat called Brown and who actually looks like a pig. According to the Express, he troughed £18,000 worth of groceries, most of which, in the most recently published photo, look like they’re still in his fat, bloated body.
He gave an interview with an ITV Journalist after the speaker had resigned.
Asked for an interview, he said
“Are you a journalist?”
“Yes” was the answer.
“Fuck off” said John.
Now how much more eloquent than that can you possibly get?
guess the rules they need for expenses are simple.
a basic statement that they will operate under the same system they impose on everyone else. nothing further is needed.
make them travel and reclaim the costs like everyone else has to
the rules are already simple, claire.
an mp cannot claim for an item that is not directly necessary for him to do his duty as an mp.
oh, and fuck off with the lower case shit.
that’s my gig motherfucker.
you will have to copy someone else.
thankyou.
Fuck off you arse face.
why are you so fucking toxic, you neurotic twat?
are you this shitty to the people you know, or do you just take it out on random strangers on this website?
Evening TwAt. Your turn of phrase has such independent culture.
You are John Prescott and I claim my £5.00.
oh dear!
calm down ladies! perhaps you have a point and this place may be too rough for your delicate sensibilities. my normal advice to highly strung c’unts like you would be to fuck off to conservativefoam. there are lots cripples like you there! I am sure you would feel at home surrounded with fellow strawberry ripples.
and when you leave this place, if you present a receipt you will be able to demand a full refund.
there, that was easy, wasn’t it.
now fuck off.
thankyou.
Your boyfriend has dumped you for a lezza, which has obviously left you incredibly bitter and twisted, and of course you always was a dopey cυnt.
Mince off into the sunset battie boy, before we set the dogs on you.
TaT. You really are a complete twat. As Prescott suggests, FUCK OFF!
TwAT for Speaker.
Would make PMQs a lot more interesting at least.
“Next question! No, not you Tory boy, fuck off!”
Don’t think you’re out of the woods yet, Moley!
I’m saving up to give the Rt Hon John Selwyn Gummer enough money to keep your sort underground. I understand that rook rifles, when obtainable, are effective against jackdaws, so we’ll be having an issue of them as well. That just leaves the “gardening” then – a mere £8000 p.a. or so of false receipts.
cripples,
please form an orderly queue in order to be healed of your afflictions by the great thick as thieves.
if, in your desperation to be cured of your various diseases and brain damage symptoms, you surround me and start forming a cripple pile on top of me, then I will be unable to heal you all and only the lucky few who can touch a piece of my clothing will benefit.
now I know how the Beatles felt.
honestly, you ripples are so fucking selfish!
it’s all me me me with you c’unts, innit.
Just floating this as an idea. Before you vote in any election print this simple declaration and ask the MP or MEP concerned to sign it. If they refuse they are obviously only interested in nothing else apart from putting their piggy little noses in the trough and are therefore not worthy a single vote. I know it makes the assumption that they promise to do something and that with a lot of these jokers that means nothing, but at least it’s a start at stopping this insane expenses sham.
I, the undersigned PROMISE to abide by the following five simple rules:-
1. Within tree months of taking office I promise to make public and publish, in at last one constituency newspaper, ANY & ALL expenses claimed by me, or on behalf of me, over the previous four years.
2. Annually I promise to make public and publish, in at last one constituency newspaper, ANY & ALL expenses claimed by me, or on behalf of me, during that time in office.
3. If FOR ANY REASON I do not abide by rule one and two I will immediately resign and forfeit all benefits and pension rights accrued while in office.
4. If FOR ANY REASON it is discovered that I have falsified or omitted any expense claimed I will immediately resign and forfeit all benefits and pension rights accrued while in office.
5. If FOR ANY REASON I do not abide by rule three and four I will not oppose any legal action brought against me by my constituents.
Apologies for that slip, one meant three (as in 3).
How the fuck am I supposed to live on £60K per year?
Who’s going to pay for my moat clearing now?
And what does MM mean ‘no old boys’ club anymore’?. I am definitely off. This stinks.
Yours
DH
Don’t worry, we’re going to fill in your moat with all the parasites that we chuck out of government so you won’t need to clear it. It’ll still stink, though.
£15,000 a year for interest payments. That’s a mortgage for more than £250,000. Isn’t the average price of a home in this country about £150,000. Same pigs different trough?
Some constituencies have very expensive housing.
Fair enough to pay the interest on a second home in the constituency but any profit on that part of the equity paid for by the state, should go back to the state.
What I cannot see is how MPs who make a profit of tens or hundreds of thousands on selling a second home funded by the tax payer, have the right to claim selling expenses AND Stamp Duty on the replacement.
Why should they have a second home in the constituency? It should be the main residence. And the London one should just be a rented furnished studio, if they can’t commute. If MPs are desperate enough to marry each other they should just get one allowance between them.
Some of them claim for a third home, like G Brown. He has a home in his constituency, he has lived for free in Downing Street for 12 years, and WE have to pick up the expenses for his London flat, including special blinds for his child’s room. How is this necessary for him to do his job? Why doesn’t he pay the money back that he has stolen, then call a General Election, then resign, and then crawl in penitence behind the tumbril taking him to the gallows?
I only ask in the spirit of honest enquiry.
What about the perks he is taking himself, pension ect.
what happened to pig flu?
Postpone for a more opportune moment.
Postponed for a more opportune moment.
(bugger, posting seems a bit hit & miss these days!)
Dunno, but I’ve got a reinforced umbrella just in case.
Oink!!
My (Tory) MP claims to be “in the clear” on his expenses. He has “only” claimed for mortgage interest on his “second home” plus a few utility bills. Yet this “second home” is the home that he tells his electors is where he lives with his family. It’s a few miles from Tring station which is half an hour from central London. So why are we the taxpayers picking up the tab for his £375,000 mortgage?
This story has much further to run. Forget the flipping. That’s for the (relatively) few. It’s the many who get the taxpayer to pay the mortgage on their main home which is the big issue. That includes the Balls-Coopers who seem to have overturned the HMRC guidance in “MPs, Ministers and Tax” that Ministers’ main homes are in London.
They haven’t. Their main home IS in London – that’s where their children go to school. They have just pretended that their main home is in Yorkshire to claim the second homes allowance.
…on their expensive London home. However they claim to have paid CGT on their previous London home, which if true, is truly inept, as they would be worse off than if they had told the truth and claimed a smaller anount of ACA on their Yorkshire home!
How much did they spend building new offices for MP’s in Westminster?
Well they need to build a new Bed and Breakfast place as well
‘The Westminster B & B Palace’ and then refuse them any Mortgage / 2nd home -ACA payments, Council Tax, Furniture/Wide Plasma Screen , Massage Chairs(Malik), Moats, Replacement Windows, Food Allowance(Wow Nick Brown,Prescott)) . No Flipping(Blears). No playing the Housing Market(Darling, Hoon).
A new B&B will save us, the Taxpayers A Fortune.
(1) We’ve got to get these troughing bastards commuting lets say when their constituency is within a 60 minute rail journey.
(2a) Those outside this limit must have their family home in their constituency where they and their spouse and their families LIVE. These MPs may have modest accommodation in London where they can STAY, suitable for their families to come and VISIT but must not be allowed to LIVE there. Help with rent only up to that equivalent to renting in an OUTER London borough.
No MP can be married/shacked up with another MP because every MP has to LIVE in their constituency.
If the ill-favoured wretches can’t find anyone else to marry except another MP I don’t care where they live as long as they don’t expect to be paid expenses for two secondary homes.
I presume he means in the UNIX way and not the the other.
If you believe anything that lying mob say, then God help you.
Where’s the PAYBACK then?
Will there be a commission to examine the expenses and demand a refund in every case of impropriety?
Ohhhh yes and probably never, the money’s gone for good. Too late!
Sponging bastards.
A refund Yes – but there must also be criminal charges – some of these people have been downright dishonest.
The Met and Her Majesty’s Revenues and Customs MUST apply their rules to them as they would to us.
If they don’t then Parliament is not worth ………………..
The whole system’s rotten to to the core. I’d lay odds against any of these thieves going to prison. Several Tory MPs went to prison in the dying days of that government. It set a precedent. Several of the cases publicised recently go beyond immoral into fraud.
Don’t fret Guido, your porkbusting role isn’t over yet. You can be sure they will try to get around the new rules, old habits die hard.
I still dream of Organon; I wake up crying.
You’re making rain
and you’re just in reach
When you and sleep escape me.
You’re like my yo-yo that glowed in the dark.
What made it special
made it dangerous?
So I bury it and forget.
But everytime it rains
You’re here in my head like the sun coming out -
Oh
I just know that something good is going to happen;
I don’t know when but just saying it could even make it happen.
On top of the world
looking over the edge
you could see them coming.
You looked too small in their big black car
To be a threat to the men in power.
I hid my yo-yo in the garden
I can’t hide you from the government.
Oh God
daddy
I won’t forget.
‘Cause everytime it rains
. . .
And everytime it rains
. ..
Just saying it could even make it happen.
Your son’s coming out – your son’s coming out.
Very good.
There have been a few posts on here ref the possibility that The Bastard will find some reason to postpone the GE. Cue revolt !
Any constabules or forces personnel on here with a view on their likely collective action in such circumstances ? I trust the Army to do the right thing but I’m not so sure about the other lot particularly after recent events.
(Can’t believe I’m thinking this let alone typing it !! This is ENGLAND FFS !!!)
Yes well Mcsnotty’s shower passed the Civil Contingencies Act which provides exactly for such a scenario , on the slimmest of excuses.
Go take a read and remember government is led by 3rd rate Scotch student marxists.
What did we expect.
Yes brainiac that he is Mcidiot has the Gurkha’s as the current standby battalion so he’s in luck there then – not.
The Armed Forces would take direction from the Queen under extreme circumstances not this shower of shit.
Cops are not really an issue when faced with rifles or mass disobedience they rely on public support. So can be ignored realistically.
So march on Parliament at your will
Sorry to be a bore about this, especially when other people seem to be enjoying this so much, but isn’t there something odd about the idea that MPs can’t be trusted to handle relatively small sums of money with respect to their own compensation, yet it’s fine for them to run increasingly large swathes of our financial system, our schools, health service and policing, spending merrily as they go? Personally, I think we’d be wise to offer every last one of them a moat or two, if they’d just give back our taxes and stop bothering us.
Two sides of the same debased coin. They are utterly irresponsible with our money.
Me an’ me mate Ballsy seem to have got away with it so far, snigger! Thanks Speaker!
I feel sorry for Michael Martin. I can’t say I was ever a fan but he is without doubt a scapegoat. I say we question all members of the House of Commons Commission on their role in this debacle – and they represent all sides. Lets see who defended the system from review.
You soft twat. It’s because of dickheads like you that scum like Mick Martin and Gordon Brown are able to take the piss.
A scapegoat? A speaker? That’s like calling John Two Bogs Prescott an intellectual. Martin can hardly speak coherently and struggles to read a few sentences off a prepared sheet. He had to refer to his advisers in the House over and over again since the fat twat didn’t even know the correct procedures. He was shoehorned into the job by Cyclops, kept in the job by Cyclops, resisted changes to expenses for Cyclops and was finally sacked by Cyclops. That could still bring down the one-eyed Scottish idiot himself. Yee hah!
Not a scapegoat. He engaged in the coverup and is a trougher himself. He deserved to go. But in addition to him so do the other troughers.
What does not deserve to happen is for the Government to take a greater position of authority over Parliament through it’s design on the expenses issue. It is meant to be wholly the other way around, if only MPs could drag themselves away from fiddling their expenses long enough to notice how much authority has been nominally nicked from them, but could be taken back in a flash.
Scapegoat? An effing scapegoat?
You are taking the gypsy’s kiss aren’t you?
The bastard should be arrested and facing fraud charges at the very least.
Cue the worlds smallest violin. He is retiring on a fat pension, probably a seat in the Lords to boot. My heart bleeds for the Hoon.
Repeat after me: THE SPEAKER IS A COMPLETE TWAT.
Take a seat and repeat often.
A scapegoat ? Well, perhaps McSnottie sees it that way since he’s apparently trying to make the whole affair go away. But it doesn’t end with Martin – he was just the beginning.
no effin allowances whatsoever, if they cant get by on 65 grand then f=ck em we do not have to pay high wages to attract the best people, we are paying extravagant somes of money to these gits and they have bankrupted the country b#@#*% rds
I am pleased that my leader Mr Brown will excuse all those whose expense claims fell ‘within the rules’. Chortle.
Guido,
I need your help. It is time to start a campaign. We need to set a precedent.
We need to do something historic about this scandal.
I propose that for the forthcoming European elections we, the public, refuse to shake hands with these leeches until we get comfort they are not screwing us up.
No more handshakes, no more baby-kissing in the High St.
These people need to be told: we are disgusted and want real change.
http://trenator.blogspot.com/2009/05/dont-shake-hands-campaign.html
Actually they can kiss my arse.
Can I?
I have been looking for this bit in Shakespeare for days – parts of it kept coming back as I, sad person, kept listening to disintegrating Gordon- I’ve finally tracked it down :
“There is a Tide in the affairs of men
Which taken at the Flood leads onto fortune
Omitted, all the voyage of their life
Is bound in shallows and in miseries”
Julius Caeser-Act.iv Sc3
Gordon you always miss the Tide!!
“O villain, villain, smiling, damnèd villain!…
That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain—
At least I am sure it may be so in Denmark.”
(Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 5)
‘This is the excellent foppery of the world, that,
When we are sick in fortune, often the surfeit
Of our own behaviour, we make guilty of our
Disasters the sun, the moon, and the stars; as
If we were villains of necessity.’
Well Gordon’s foray into YouTube proved that didn’t it?. His smile, as he uttered his lies, was the scariest thing I ever saw!
Personally, I prefer Richard III, Act 5, Scene 2:
Fellows in arms, and my most loving friends,
Bruised underneath the yoke of tyranny,
Have we marched on without impediment,
Thus far into the bowels of the land
And here receive we from our father Stanley
Lines of fair comfort and encouragement.
The wretched, bloody, and usurping boar,
That spoiled your summer fields and fruitful vines,
Swills your warm blood like wash, and makes his trough
In your embowelled bosoms—this foul swine
Is now even in the center of this isle…
‘If thou couldst, doctor, cast
The water of my land, find her disease,
And purge it to a sound and pristine health,
I would applaud thee to the very echo,
That should applaud again.–Pull’t off, I say.–
What rhubarb, cyme, or what purgative drug,
Would scour these (Scottish) hence?’
Is anyone buying this ? Throw a token sacrifice to the proles ?
You’re satisfied with that are you, Guido ???
He’s not a token sacrifice. He’s part of the rotten machinery that had to go, to make way for the new.
After you’ve chucked the split crank case, seized pistons, shattered con rods and bent crank shaft, you really believe that you can turn an uncompromised gudgeon pin back into a Rolls-Royce Merlin?
165, No. You get rid of the rest of the rotten machinery and replace it with a plant, custom-made for the job at hand. A C19 solution will not deal with, let alone solve C21 problems.
What would you do?
The disgraced outgoing Speaker has just announced the perks are going with him; no more plasma TVs, no more iPods, no more Agas, no more stamp duty, no more gardening, no more taxpayer funded buy, renovate, sell scams, no more flipping designations, plus a limit on mortgage interest subsidies.
Fook you lot!
Am oota here an’ pullin up the ladder!
Im a hoon, my husband is a hoon, my boss is a hoon. I think you catch my drift!
No, can’t you be a bit clearer on that point?
I have to say that all of this farting about by Brown is no more than that. So, a couple of labour MPs are suspended and one has resigned – so what? This is not a new beginning, it’s a beginning of another route whereby these slimy pigs can continue to have their way with the electorate. Anyone who believes a word Brown, the most odious of them all, says must be as blinkered as him. He talks of public confidence but he wouldn’t know a member of the public if he stood on one. The man is scurilous in his attempts to be seen to be doing something, anything that he thinks will get him noticed. What is the enquiry for then????
Nothing short of the dissilution of parliament and the hounding of these MPs out of office will do. No more repayments, no more sorrys, just get the fcuk out of government and onto the dole queue FFS!!!!
Cyclops is mentally unstable. That comes from a family friend who actually works with the Scottish cnut. He married purely for political reasons, is pathologically desperate to win an election and will NEVER EVER EVER stand down voluntarily. When he does leave Number Ten it’ll be in a strait-jacket, gagged, and carried by big strong men in white coats. The stealth-taxing bastard can’t even get through a press conference without spouting numbingly boring, meaningless drivel that makes only slightly more sense than a statement from Two Bogs. If you can stay awake to the end of one of his verbal diarrhoea attacks, some of his sentences don’t end properly. In his desperation and depression he’s losing control of his own thought processes.
Have any MPs made a false declaration on their candidate forms at the last General Election?
Many MPs in the previous parliament declared their London home as their main residence. If they then declared their constituency home as their main residence on their candidates application form at the last General Election, were they making a false declaration? Check your local MPs form which should be available at the local Council House.
Is this a crime? It may be a small point; though remember they locked up Al Capone for tax evasion.
Don’t know about that but on her website, Dreadlocks Dawn says her home is in her constituency and she can see Wembley.Thought she lived in east London and that’s why she was able to install a jacuzzi in her second home – a few miles away?I suppose with all that hair she’d need a jacuzzi to keep her ‘locks clean.
I thought a Jaccuzi was a korean motorbike until yesterday. Besides, cheap bubble bath and eating baked beans creates the same effect and is cheaper I find.
Don’t stop good people. Election NOW. Brown mustn’t get away from the hounds of justice
I was thinking of voting UKIP until I heard Dennis Macshane on the Daily Politics reveal that Nigel Farage has claimed £2 million in expenses from the Euro Parliament.
Farage is a bigger, greedier thief than even some of these scumbags in Westminster.
I’ll probably stick with the Tories. At least Cameron is trying to clean things up.
2 million?????? WTF? WHAT ON?
yeah what on, how or is it another liebor story,
i dont vote ukip unless 2nd choice, but 2million seems extremely excessive, and i would imagine the MSM would be all over that, seems to me farage may have a libel or is it slander case to pursue.
Farage Replies
http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1053-mcshane-misses-the-point-on-expenses
I don’t know whether that’s true or not but coming from McShane?
You take what McShane says in the same way as you you accept the expenses of Spliffy.
So what!
We’ re all at it , its only taxpayer money.
Remember all, Google is our friend.
The Establishment, reinforced by paper tigers like UKIP, is not.
Guido does not want us to mention the only party that can really put the cat among the pigeons.
So I won’t.
He was apparently talking about his total “cost,” including staff, travel, offices and allowances over ten years.
What he said has been taken out of context and spun.
We do not unfortunately have the figures to compare him with other Euro MPs, but he makes the point that if you add up the total salary and expenses for an MP in London, that comes to a hell of a lot over ten years too.
UKIP trying to make out they are a clean alternative is a sick joke. They seem to have fooled enough of the people though.
Expenses issue was just a sideshow. Time now to heat up pokers on braziers.
Who would have thought a Gorbals welder would have gone down fighting for such valiant causes as a toff’s moat, a toff’s wisteria, a wannabe toff’s portico, and a nouveau toff’s ride on mower?
I can understand why he helped his labour chums get the chav stuff such as massage chairs, mock tudor beams, jacuzzis and plasmas, but why the toffs?
‘Cos we’re all queers together
That’s why we go around in pairs
Yes we’re all queers together
Excuse us while we go upstairs
Lordy be!
Hes from Glasgow-need I say more??
‘Cos we’re all peers together
That’s why we go round in pairs
Yes we’re all peers together
‘Scuse me while we go upstairs
Are the Telegraph leaving Balls-Cooper to last?Sure, Blinky is a pal of Lewis the editor,but it’s got to be one hell of a ticking bomb. It would be a great to have a double scalping!As for a new Speaker…that’s a tough one.Shame in a way that Mandy isn’t an MP,er on second thoughts,perhaps not.
Best keep them for a rainy day.
Looks like rain.
The injunction is stifling The Telegraph somewhat.
The DT should publish and be damned.
I thought the injunction was overturned ??
Any news ?
and are these several “hidden injunctions” ?
It now seems there was no injunction. However, Balls is mates with the DT Editor, so rumour is they were treated leniently.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5325590/Ed-Balls-and-Yvette-Cooper-flipped-homes-three-times-MPs-expenses.html
I did see a small item on Balls/Cooper in the Telegraph about a week ago, towards the bottom of one of the pages. It didn’t amount to much more than the usual second homes scam, so perhaps the paper’s been injuncted(?) to keep the real dirt under wraps for a while. It must be pretty bad to exceed what we’ve already seen.
Balls-Cooper were done last week. Small feature including protest from Balls about his ’second home’ declaration and a ‘mistake’ in double charging a few month’s mortgage interest.
DT editor is personal friend so the article was neutral free of innuendo, rage, sarcasm as applied to most of the posts.
Lewis is a twat.
“the perks are going with him; no more plasma TVs, no more iPods, no more Agas, no more stamp duty, no more gardening, no more taxpayer funded buy, renovate, sell scams, no more flipping designations, plus a limit on mortgage interest subsidies.”
So, more money suddenly available to MI5 to fund their surveillance of would-be suicide bombers before they actually get to do any damage.
MI5 currently employs 3,500 officers. The committee said it would need an unachievable “several hundred thousand” to provide comprehensive intelligence coverage. … MI5 did not have the manpower to do extra checks on the 7 July ringleader before he carried out the attacks in 2005 … resources were so stretched that officers could not even assess whether such “desirable” targets should be examined more closely unless they were known to be actively plotting an attack.
Look at that: several hundred thousand needed by MI5 to help keep safe everyone in the country – “unachievable” – but jolly easily achievable for MPs wanting scatter cushions and swimming pools and mortgage payments long after mortgage actually paid off.
RIPA me a new one! They said they’re recruiting seven year olds now:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1183796/Town-halls-hire-citizen-snoopers-young-SEVEN-spy-neighbours-report-wrongs.html
Read all about it in 1984.
Oops!
Oops.
Child informers were popular in the Soviet Union, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlik_Morozov
I think they mean several hundred thousand mi5 officers, though why they can’t use the specially trained 7 to 11 year old snoopers I don’t know.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1183796/Town-halls-hire-citizen-snoopers-young-SEVEN-spy-neighbours-report-wrongs.html
Too late English.
‘Going home, going home, going home. We’er going home. Like football we’er going home’.
‘Hello all you Prusssians out there ! Start packing !
Soon the Irish vote and we’ll be all going home.
The Telegraph is taking a rest tomorrow. Normal sleaze-busting service will be resumed on Wednesday with loads more greedy, money-grabbing MPs and cabinet ministers to be exposed.
I’m getting on a bit, but I thought it was Tuesday today and Wednesday tomorrow. I must be losing my marbles. I’m confused!
Just had the tory Euro Junk mail. It’s got Gordon going La la la la la. Reminds me of a little ditty.
Stick a pony in me pocket,
I’ll fetch the suitcase from the van.
Cos if you want the best ‘uns,
But you don’t ask questions,
Then brother, I’m your man.
Cos where it all comes from is a mystery,
It’s like the changin’ of the seasons,
And the tides of the sea.
But here’s the one that’s drivin’ me beserk,
Why do only fools and horses work?
La-la-la-la-lah
La-lala-la
La-la-la-la-lah
La-lala-la.
We’ve got some half price cracked ice and miles and miles of carpet tiles,
T.V.s, deep freeze and David Bowie L.P.s,
Ball games, gold chains, whassa-names, and at a push,
Some Trevor Francis track suits from a mush in Shepherds Bush,
Bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush …
No income tax, no V.A.T.,
No money back, no guarantee,
Black or white, rich or poor,
We’ll cut prices at a stroke……
God bless Hooky Street,
Viva Hooky Street,
Long live Hooky Street,
C’est magnifique, Hooky Street,
Magnifique, Hooky Street,
Hooky Street
La-la-la-la-lah
La-lala-la
La-la-la-la-lah
La-lala-la.
Until all of the porkers give up the gravy trough, keep going with the Porkbusters, Guido. Er, please. And it looks like even now they are trying to conspire new ways of getting their fat ham-fisted fingers on the public purse for their mortgages – even if it only is for first homes only now as proposed -, and making it seem an acceptable thing.
Completely abolishing expenses might be a good start, if they had any decent bones in them. No chance, it’s all Fat of The Land in them, and not a decent backbone or any decent bone. Oink.
Mortgage interest and rent claims will be capped at £1,250 per month under interim reforms to MPs’ expenses, Speaker Michael Martin has said.
How about you cap them at fuck all and pay the mortgage from your wages.
C’unts!
Prezza and the working classes won’t even be able to afford to come to Parliament under the new proposals when they are elected..
Only the Rich Tory Toffs
Long Live Democracy !!
They have their heads so far up their backsides that it take a generation for them to get them back down anyway…!!!
Prescott, Uddin, Foulkes denied access to Westminster ( Commons or Lords). They’re going to be a real loss aren’t they?
And how many more of them are there?
And how much have they cost us since Labour came to power? Does anyone know?
Prezza and virtually all MPs are millionaires. The ‘Tory toffs’ gambit doesn’t wash now that they’ve all enriched thmselves at our expense.
An alternative suggestion I’ve written to my MP with, feel free to copy.
===
Dear Mr MP,
I am not a natural *** voter, but I do still have – which is
rare these days – a belief in representative democracy, so rather than
merely posting this suggestion onto a blog and waiting for a
journalist to come across it, I am making it to you, my local MP, as
the correct channel to attract parliament’s attention.
My suggestion is simple; means test the ACA. The original idea was, as
I’m sure you are aware, an extension of the attempt – as old as
Chartism – to ensure that an individual who chose to stand for
parliament was not invidiously disadvantaged. Some of the examples we
are seeing in the press – which although not representative of all
parliament, certainly indicate a general milieu of entitlement, show
abuses far above and beyond this.
An individual who wishes to claim Job Seeker’s Allowance may take
work, but this counts against their fortnightly claim – my own mother
is in this situation at the moment. Similarly, my proposal would mean
that any individual who had a source of income outwith of parliament -
which I define as anything which would otherwise be declared to the
Inland Revenue, including income from rental properties – would have
this taken into account when determining their maximum ACA. I haven’t
given consideration to the actual bands, but they’d certainly mean
that anyone with an income of 500,000 wouldn’t receive a penny for
travel or housing
Is shorting shares still banned? John Lewis just lost half its business.
John Lewis isn’t a plc.
Parliamentary Limited company?
Blears is being decapitated.
Hoon must be next for chop.
Darling will escape so will Balls.
Yes, it was very rude of Gordon to castigate her in front of all those news hounds at his monthly press thingy. Mrs dale will not be amused.
Must have been his time of the month.
You do not know how hard it is on users of Tampax® at a certain time of the month.
Luvly…
Christ. Just when you thought she couldn’t get any shorter.
Her local party apparently has every confidence in her.
I think I got it wrong. Very wrong.
Brown castigated her. But then exonerated her and said he would not sack her from Cabinet.
FFS he will only punish those who broke the then was rules. Cart and Horses safe. So will Balls, Hoon, Darling, Beckett all of whom bent the rules.
By their Deselections shall ye know the Parties.
Dave let the cull commence. Show Brown some Tory blood in the gutters.
Now for your next project Guido – the EU Referendum, or lack of.
If our treacherous government have their way, they will have us
ruled by foreigners (we’s halfway there!).
According to the TaxPayers’ Alliance the amount spent on spent on membership fees and unnecessary regulations is estimated at £112 billion per annum. Small fry compared to troughing MPs expenses, yes?
This where you should REALLY REALLY concentrate.
I want to see a stop to the endless regulations imposed on us by the European Union – especially the directives on working time, chemicals, landfill, water, fishing, climate change etc. Withdrawal from the EU would go some way to restoring democracy to the UK.
The UK should adopt the Mike Strutter ‘fuck you’ approach to negotiations in the EU. A good place to start in my opinion would be refusing to accept an end to the UK’s opt-out from the 48-hour week,
Actually the rest of the EU, particularly the French, tend to ignore the aggravating bits, Its only in stickler-ruled Britain that ministers gold plate and overbloat every single EU Directive so that the impact is wholly disproportionate.
The way out of that is a 60% retrenchment in the civil service.
Two different Legal systems.
The French system is based on Napoleonic Law which looks at the intention of the Law.
English Law is based on Roman Law which relies on the exact letter of the law.
There are bound to be problems when an EU directive framed for interpretation under Napoleonic Law is translated into English Legislation under Roman Law.
These conflicts need resolving in all the Parliamentary Law which covers EU Directives.
Guido has probably already voted no in his EU referendum, and wouldn’t want another one.
Do we still have to pay 400 quid a month their pig swill?
I’ll believe what Mr Martin says when I see it. Bad case of PTLUIAR, by the way – Pull The Ladder Up, I’m All Right.
Where there is a will there is a way Guido.
You can bet your bollocks to a barn dance that these troughing scum will have left a loophole somewhere to exploit.
Just listen to the mealy mouthed cretinous response from the prime mincer today.
Trougher Blears, McNumpty, Jacqui Spliff and Moran ( A spelling mistake surely ) have done nothing wrong according to cycloptic sociopath Brown?
Could someone please explain why Brown is setting up a new “independent” body, outside of the House of Commons, to regulate MPs expenses. Much better that they be represented by MPs who CAN be democratically removed if they misbehaved? This is a very dangerous system indeed – MPs can simply bribe this “indepenedent” body with pay/perks etc and get their own way?!?!
Agree, especially if the ‘independent’ body contains PWC, Deloittes, KPMG, Ernest & Young…
In accountancy there is no such thing as a bribe, It’s called fee income. If the fee is large enough they’ll say that white is the new black.
There is no point adding another layer of troughers to the expenses system – by suggesting this solution Brown is admitting that MPS are too corrupt to manage their own affairs, himself included
Most depressing is how we ended up with a Prime Minister who doesn’t understand the meaning of the words trust and truth
I read recently that the Californians have a good idea. Can the scrutiny panel please be drawn by rote from the Jury duty pool. That way they will be randomly selected and thus free from political or financial interest in the matter, save in so far as they may be tax payers.
Great idea. Why don’t we do the same for MPs? Drawn by lot to serve for 12 months. Sounds a bit like Chartism.
(Note to anyone educated after the 1960s: Chartism was a political movement of the 1840s. I expect Wikipedia has an article on it if you don’t know what books are)
Is it still OK to claim £6000 for cleaners or is that “totally unacceptable”?
We’re on planet McTwat, and the normal rules of physics do not apply.
Further than that we just do not know.
If that in “defiance of the rules” ?
and sky sports packages
No, because it was on his third home, not his second. The man should be hung drawn and quartered. He was supposed to be having a bollocking from the Queen today, and couldn’t be arsed to turn up.
Ooops: Poor Hazel Blears is in trouble now.
Seems she’s condemned by Gordon but – don’t worry Hazel – he’s going to do fuck all about you.
Oh yes: strong, decisive leadership right there.
In fairness, he did decide to do fuck all.
Brown’s weak, so weak. Can he make a decision at all without annoying any of his ministers approval or disapproval. He’s scared of them and it’s so, so obvious.
If he’s got any command left, these are who he must demote instantly to menial posts, just to stave off any immediate backstabbing, and that may still happen anyway albeit at a distance:
Hazel Blears, (Mortal enemy of Brown, now)
Harm Men Harman, (positive discriminating far left Nazi)
Alistair Darling, (never let near anything financial again)
Ed Balls. (Flipper and then some)
And many, many more. Probably all of them to be honest. General Election please, I don’t know about reshuffle. It just won’t work due to the fact that Brown’s scared and any Cabinet demotion would mean his political murder as payback, as well as the Cabinet being split left, right and centre.
Brown’s only ally is Mandy, who gave him the only helpful and caring advice to ‘have a rest’ out of the lot of them. And the two have had no love for one another over the decades. Brown is screwed, he might as well just call it and be done with it, before being stabbed to death by his own inner circle.
“General election please.”
Please, please, please…
Need a “Night of The Long Knives”.
I read that Lynn Faulds Wood maybe putting herself up as an Independent or Lib Dim candidate (because she likes Vince Cable). Last week we had Esther Rantzen, jumping on the band wagon.
I suppose the natural progression of this sort of thing will be a new series entitled ‘Celebrity MP’. What is it with these people ,who think because they have been on TV, they have the qualities required to be an MP ?
What is it with current MPs that they think they have the qualities required of being an MP? At least these women have had a career outside politics. In my mind that is a much better qualification than most of the MPs we have. Its just a pity they are from the luvvie industry.
But then Glenda Jackson as Speaker will lick ‘em into shape.
Glenda can’t resist getting her tits out if she’s got an audience. Jolly good choice.
Yes, Glenda’s the girl for the job
Isnt she dead?
Good question. They’re still doing tests.
Now then. Lynn Faulds Wood is married to John Stapleton , who works with that Gloria De Piero on t’ telly. She I believe introduced Dolly and Kate G. Dolly and McPoison corresponded. McPoison occupied the same space as McTwat.
Spookeh!
Last point Guido
Interesting to note that the Labour spin doctors are treating the “Rich Tories” in the same way the Russian authorities used to treat the Jews during the Pogroms…..
And that so many of the Labour spin doctors are Jews…starting with their boss Mandelson…
It is food for thought….
And a very dangerous gamle to play…
There is a bit too much anti-semitism creeping on here.
Colour, race and religion are irrelevant to a person’s quality as a human being.
My grandfather was a Russian Jew who was hounded out of Russia during the Revolution.
He became a Major in the British Army, was awarded the MBE and worked at a senior level in the BBC when it was pioneering radio broadcasting.
His Jewishness did not define him or limit his abilities and courage.
It is so sad that when anyone speaks about the Jews there are immediate cries of anti-semitism
Have you seen the comments here about the Scots, English French Eu citiens, Italian Mafia etc
Why should you be trated any differently ?
You are one being sectarian ?
You are a sad parrot trying to cover up facts…
Just think about the substance of what I wrote before sinking into your cheap smears of others for anti-semitism please
You make me think of McBride…
PS For all I know you father is a great man
But not the Criminal Labour spin doctors or financiers !!
So what were you trying to say?
Cυnt.
Cυnt
Sorry, just testing.
What is it you need – glasses or antibiotics?
Is that a rhetorical question or do you really want an answer?
Censored Guido ??!
Browns about twelve days behind David Cameron on this, he’s just stating what the Cons are already doing worded, in a different way. This so called PM needs to start thinking for himself he’s getting paid to be a PM, my thoughts, I just don’t think he’s worth it.
Thank you Sir
cυnt – test no 4
So the Hoon filter has been removed then, Uncle Joe?
obviously not – just a temporary blip me thinks ‘cos it’s back on now
I don’t believe or buy any of it. Brown is strung out. What does Blears have on Gordon? (Major/Currie? syndrome – please no) Consider this: Many MP’s are living beyond their means and have developed over years a spending lifestyle ie if you dont spend it in full this year,you won’t get it next year and possibly the funds will be reduced.
Suddenly OVERNIGHT the money is cut – the MPs unlike normal mortals will not be in a position to rapidly reign in their individual family budgets, trophy or greedy wives will kick up, spoilt brat children will have to be pulled out of fee paying schools and even if they try to sell the second or third home, the property market is still pants, so no quick dosh there.
Knowing that the gravy train is being halted suddenly the idea of becoming an MP begins to tarnish. So follow this through, the MPs who survive the financial proberty cull, police investigations, are still faced with high outgoings and possible long term locked in mortgages..the long Summer recess – no taxpayer funded food , furniture or gardening budgets without funding the leisure based lifestyle becomes mega expensive.
No one at the Golf Club wants to be associated with them either and they may even be blackballed. Don’t look at the banks for succour, suddenly MP’s become a poor financial risk… Some of the money will be clawed back so that increases the level of debt to be financed ( few MP’s, being mortal have substantial cash balances but may be asset rich).
By Chrstmas we should see a few divorces (oooh expensive) and not forgetting the legions of up to now taxpayer maintained mistresses (sorry housekeepers) looking after the London home whilst our MP is at the far off safely out of the way, family home… so if they survive the Christmas and new year festivities ( the month long ski chalet for the family will have to go too!) this takes us up to the General Election.
By now our Mps have had a year of sustainerd abuse (even violence) on the doorstep, threats, individual credit limits cut, majorities slashed and independents hacking away at slender majorities.
No feel sorry for you MP good or bad because Speaker Martins parting shot is designed to ensure that if he cannot have the lifestyle he certainly isn’t going to leave the trappings behind and that goes for the entire Westminster estate…
WE all have ringside seats and Guido rather than winding down the Porkbusters campaign it is only just starting….
Well said Sir
Excellent analysis…
But Labour spin is now going to become sordid class attacks and class warfare…
Like old Labour but worse
Because they are STUNG AND DYING…AND RUNNING OUT OF CASH AS A PARTY AND INDIVIDUALLY..
(all those houses are worth 40% less now as well)
Yes I noticed that this evening; the word ‘class’ attack when referring to Martins’ hastened demise; also the word ‘gentlemans’ club’ (referring to the house) has been quoted a lot today and by Brown no less; these are 2 words that have clear tory associations about them and this is their only attack! It’s quite pathetic. It’s all they know to resort to, after all they’re not the sharpest tools in the box. They behave like spoilt kids and bad losers the whole bleedin’ lot of them.
No doubt the directive use the words ‘class’ and ‘gentlemens’ club’, all day, came from that nasty lump of steaming horse dung that is Count Mandelbum – the master (or supposed) of spin & lies!
The laughable thing is that their spinning isn’t working any more – it hasn’t been working since Macbride left the employ of Gordon the great failure
Yep the party’s only just begun, you don’t find a silver lining when you dig into a pile of dung, and this pile is 12 years high. The more crap that is uncovered, the fewer self-serving miscreants will survive the next election, so it’s all good
I wonder if any Labour MPs/Ministers took out 125% mortgages with Northern Rock after it was nationalised
That would be sweet
I like but you missed out the problem of this so called independant inquiry with the help of MP’s,they will end up with a massive payrise and when people complain they will be told by the MP’s it wasn’t us ,it was an independant inquiry that gave us it,back to troughing.
JESUS FUCKING H !!!!
Can nobody spell INDEPENDENT with an “e”.
Shirley Williams has much to answer for. I give up.
They get a massive pay rise at their peril.
speaking of Hoons…I am getting bored waiting. Why has James Plaskitt not been dragged over the coals yet? He has claimed 22k in 2nd home allowance- surely there is no way all that is legit?
Having seen Richard Shepherd MP on Channel 4 news and done some research he looks and sounds like a terrific potential Speaker. An independent-minded libertarian tory who bucks the party whip and votes what he damn well likes, and he has a fine stentorian voice to boot. SHEPHERD FOR SPEAKER!!!
Hear, hear!
He’s a good bloke, but I’ve seen him rule himself out twice on air, because he’s too old. I’d be ok with Alan Beith. I thought he was dead, but he was a fairly sensible chap.
No more cleaning! So I guess Brown’s £6k claim was also “totally unacceptable”.
dont broon’s forget his sky sports package
I would just like to state for the record that I am an utter cυnt.
hear hear
Gordon Brown, you broke parliament. For God’s sake do not try to repair it yourself. Send for an expert
We should take a leaf out of Caligula’s book, poor dumb animals would be pretty much the same standard as most Labour backbenchers. I say Alexander the Meerkat for speaker. Its simples!
I’ve got an inflatable Santa they can borrow . He’s about the same size as Martin but doesn’t look as stupid.
Take a leaf out of HIGNFY and put a tub of lard on the chair.
Sorry, we’ve had that for the last 9 years haven’t we?
Guido keep going on this one these bastards !!!! We need a Speaker who the Land can respect Nice if we could get one that would make our Leader answer a bloody question at PMQ I live in hope but fear the worst. Now the pigs have turned they were the ones milking the system an absolute disgrace to our nation.
Dave has just said ” We need a new Parliament ”
There is no truer statement.
We have one, it’s in Brussels
We have one it’s in Brussels (or Strasburg every 4th week).
Guido Fawkes has never seen a parliament he didn’t want to blow up.
The question is, given we have one in Brussels, why do we need to pay for one in Westminster? And in Scotland and in Wales? And why does there seem to be three layers of local government? Who pays for this lot?
We do.
And what do we get?
More and higher taxes. Of course we do: because there are more and more politicians, doing less and less, getting paid more and more, while our freedoms become less and less and they interfere more and more.
When all the smoke clears will someone ask if Parliament is obsolete? How does it fit into the European Federal Union except as a local authority. So then why do we need MPs when we already have local authorities?
A new order has come into place but the old one has not gone away. We are paying for too many tiers of goverment. I’ve lost track.
Gordon Brown has described cabinet minister Hazel Blears’ expenses claim as “totally unacceptable behaviour”. (19th may 2009).
Hazel Blears savages Gordon Brown over ‘lamentable’ failures (3rd may 2009).
Revenge is sweet! Her days are numbered.
No hint of deselection, merely demotion from the cabinet to the backbenchers being the likely outcome.
Target now the ginger one, lets get this one out of Parliament. She is a condescending Honn who needs to learn humility.
FYI cheque still not left her account, HMRC are putting the payments on account as a credit against future tax payments. Another fiddle
Seems that he constituency party STILL think the sun shines from her little chipmunk arse, and won’t deselect her.
What are these people taking…LSD?
Be interesting to see what her constituents think…comes the day!!
I received a conservative party flyer addressed to me personally, wow was i impressed.
No i wasnt when i read the part about getting a vote on the Lisbon treaty and theyre not going to give us one if the Irish vote yes!….good that, so i wiped my arse on camerons face and flushed it down the khazi, thus after 3 attempts he finally conceded defeat and departed down yonder to the growing local shitpile.
Thats one MP in the sewer, many more to follow i hope.
And will someone please whack Stuart “Toungebutt” Bell-end across the skull with a 4X2 please?
I am so sick of hearing and seeing this slithering, spitting twat trying to suck Martins cock, the guys an arsehole creeper of Galactic proportions and needs a good old fashioned shoeing; iraqi style to bray some common decency into his worthless oxygen thieving mass.
Does it show at all that im not particularly impressed with politicians of all creeds? Not at all im sure.
So from that to the silly old glaswegian bag that got interviewed in the streets of Goebals ex- stomping ground who stated: ” he should have stayed to make his point”…erm what fucking point you thick labour loving fuckhead?
I was fairly screaming at the tv by now ( i must calm myself) at the idiocy of the woman and retorted back at her via the ether: ” What the fuck are you on you silly cow? He’s been stealing from the likes of you, you cabbage brained dimwit!”…….
Just like politicians dont “Get it”, nether did she, but then again, neither do i. I never learn that shouting full tilt at the boobtube achieves nothing apart from the external venting of a little steam, the visual comedy i must provide to all and sundry is worth taking myself one step closer to a stress induced heart attack and if im lucky, a really big fucking ulcer!
Now isnt that something to shout about?
Unfortunately, the majority of Scots never get it as far as Labour is concerned. For years and years, at all levels, there have been scandals. Never once a prosecution and all swept under the carpet.
Agree-but things ARE changing -mostly towards the SNP-thank god!
If the SNP can sort out Labour in Scotland, England can finally have the Tory government it voted for last time round.
Oh yeah the SNP and their arc of prosperity… bonny Jockland on one end and Iceland on the other. More like an arc of austerity with really bad weather and worse food.
Susie
I think you are talking through your chocolate starfish.
Over.
‘A return to first principles in a republic is sometimes caused by the simple virtues of one man. His good example has such an influence that the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead a life so contrary to his example.’
Niccolò Machiavelli
Is there anyone in our godforsaken excuse for an elected Parliament who could set such an example?
If the answer is no, then we are all, truly, f*cked……..
How about Douglas Carswell?
I’d add Frank Field. There are still a few honourable men in Parliamemt (on all sides). Except Sinn Fein obviously.
Same old shit.Knock over one and another one pops up. Why does the speaker have to be an MP? Surely a non -politician would be the best option now?
Advert now paid for by HMG if you dont pay your car tax they can crush your car ( violent images for the sheep at 10.20) how about your houses !!!
The dearly beloved discredited Speaker has just said that :
Members will only now be allowed to claim Mortgage Payments of no more than £1250 per month. ( How many of us have mortgage payments that high? And would our employers agree to pay them for us? — No!! I thought not!)
This Speaker (this Oracle of Truth and Light) is further saying that “all other claim will be subject to a test of reasonableness” – well that will rule out any more of his gold plated wall paper then won’t it?
Please excuse me whilst I go and throw up in my garden.
If our employers paid our mortgages for us would we incur Benefit In Kind taxation?
well, my mortgage is for 120 grand and incurs 350 quid a month in interest – says that MPs are only allowed a mortgage up to 400,000…
If that’s for a London home, then yes, I may even agree with that. If they’re able to claim that on their constituency home then no. A 400k house in Durham? Get real!
Anonymous @9:44.
Hats off: You are a clever cυnt.
It’ll keep Guido busy when he gets back from the pub….the cυnt.
Please don’t call Guido a cυnt. He’s done a great public service.
But you’re right, he’ll need to set up another Find/Replace jobby.
Don’t encourage him FFS.
Hopefully, he’s too pissed to read this at this time of night. After all, bottles of Margaux don’t drink themselves.
I cannot believe that with such a weak, discredited, disreputable Government with an unmandated Prime Mentalist that DC has failed to topple them & him.
I am really disappointed in DC – he has had golden opportunity after open goal in the past seven days & has failed spectacularly every time.
The Tory troughing grandees should have been beheaded.
He should have bought down McMartin – not the boy Clegg.
The promised referendum on the EU Constitutional Treaty (Lisbon) should be unequivocal & clear – no matter what the rest of “Europe” does, the British people will get their say.
And lastly, times like these need bold action – not a timid following of convention & ancient rules – DC should have forced a General Election by ordering all Tory MPs to resign & force McMental to the ballot box & our country back to democracy.
Dissolve Parlaiment.
Who chooses the date of a bye election, the Government or the Party, (if it’s an opposition MP)?
Douglas Carswell MP by the looks of it
Parliament….shiraz, apologies
And another thing, all this feigned fawning language of MPs praising Martin after he resigned tells me that the old ways are likely to continue – he was a looting McHoon and the Court of Public Opinion wants him & many of his cabal of thieves arrested and prosecuted for fraud & theft.
It is that simple. Where is the Met? Who do they serve?
Dissolve Parliament.
What? IN ACID?
Agreed.
Unfortunately the Conservative party is not much more than a slightly less lefty version of Labour but with the advantage of not so obnoxious people in charge.
There seems to be a lack of vision and clear beliefs as well.
Naturally the media are for the most part little more than mouthpieces for the left so any non-Labour party has a hard row to hoe.
OK. Time for bed – Good Night. God Bless
I hope none of them sleep well tonight.
Local authority should provide a house and secretarial support for the local MP.
In London there should be fixed accommodation.
If everything is provided there is no need to rob.
This has been the rich grabbing more. You don’t get rich by spending your own money only other people’s.
If everything were provided perhaps the poor could have go at politics.
You can continue typing hoon again and again as this seems to be general level of thoughtfulness here………
The Italian connection:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/19/silvio-berlusconi-bribe-david-mills
Silvio Berlusconi bribes David Mill whereas Tessa Jowell was married to David Mills a completely different surname.
Thank you Gruaniad for your help
At least he wasn’t paying for his porn with our money.
Manifesto:
1. Line 645 fuckers up against the wall
2. Go down pub,get bladdered
3 Resign. Call General Election
Do you have any more details? I am currently a floating voter.
As opposed to a parliamentarian who is a voting floater.
Gordon Brown stars as Serpico!
surely its nose-pick-o?
See that the mail says gorbals mick is going to the lords and gets a f*ckin great million pounder pension,who won and who lost
Take him ut and shoot him – put it down to exspenses for cleaning p the atmosphere and getting rid of a bit of a bad smell……………..
Tuesday was a good day.
Trougher Martin despatched.
As SAHB, that great Glasgow institution would sing….
“NEXT” ?
Lets have an interim look at the scalps on the doors:
Elliot Morely
Andrew Mackay
Shahid Malik
David Chaytor
Michael Martin
For the sake of diversity and equality, the next scalp will have to be female and a Muhammadist. Any suggestions?
Don’t make me laugh….snow balls in hell etc etc.
No, I am really Brad Pitt……thanks for asking.
Walking wounded. Scalps only account when we have some bi-elections.
Back when we were civilised the hoons you listed would have resigned their seats.
No, I am Brad Pitt
No, I am Brad Pitt, and I am being utterly serious now.
One is Pitt the Elder.
One is not.
Got to be Udders, surely?
Troughing bitch who doesn’t even project an image of probity, far less live like it…
Udderly preposterous!
Here’s a way to give us back control (toward the end of the post)
http://www.aaaaargh.wordpress.com
GB did not say, and was not questioned by journo’s on how this independent body is going to be appointed and who will be in it, very important seeing as they will have financial control of our parlimentry ministers, very worrying.
Think someone mentioned the Telegraph are having a day off tomorrow only to ratchet up again on Thursday.
If they are, they are playing a blinder here. Let the public digest the speaker resignation and the Hoons in parliament think it’s coming to an end only to turn the screws again.
This is fucking ace!
Anyone know if the Telegraph have all of the figures/receipts or is it just the ACA stuff?
Would love to see Balls paying his cat as a research adviser or something!
No, the cat is in charge of public relations.
Lol, thought pussy was in the treasury?
Cats were always put down on company accounts as Rodent Control Operatives, complete with subsistence, anti social hours payments, uniforms, medical and holidays. In fact we made a profit out of them I seem to remember…
Brown’s premiership is turning just as disastrously as I predicted in my book “Boom and Bust” written before he became PM. Contact me on nigel_bowker_917@hotmail.com for a free electronic copy.
Shut the fuck up Nigel, there’s no need to spam every thread with another advert for your fucking book – alright? If I want your free book I’ll find it online like everyone else
Guido,
Surely Westmonster is not enough?
What about the gold plated troughs in Brussels?
What about the BBC?
What about Local Councils?
If not you, then who?
The whole bunch of them can just go fuck themselves gently with a chainsaw as all they do is just lie, evade, cheat and sleep with farmyard fowl.
:)
That’s something you’ll know all about, a Lionel?
Not the end of the troughing bastard?? He’s just changing gravy trains, then? Isn’t anyone going to come up with a manifesto that promises justice and reparations (retrospectively)? Crap. I’ll have to do it myself, then.
The Troughing Hoons Paying It All Back and Spending the Rest of Their Miserable Parasitic Lives in Fucking Prison Act, 2010.
Ok, not exactly a manifesto but it works for me.
I hope your new party is standing in the Euro elctions. If so you’ve now got two votes.
At least one politician seems to get it. Finally.
So the speaker’s gone!
When’s the fraud squad going to get the other money grabbing barstards?
Why do we have to end self regulation?
I’m sorry, but if an MP can’t be trusted with an expense account then they shouldn’t be an MP.
End of.
Parliament brought to it’s knees, and from what I can see, the problem is pretty much fixed with the interim measures in what – a meeting that lasted a couple of hours?
And we trust these lunatics to run the country?
I’m sorry, but ending self regulation ends accountability.
Don’t agree. Should they sign off their own expense claims? No.Obviously fucking not.
Discovering this blog (as the Draper/McBride story hit the headlines) in April rekindled my interest in politics and its machinations. Since, I read the papers from the front page rather than from the sports pages and have become an avid reader of the political news, comments and have scooted around other blogs for references.
It’s hard to believe or take in the fact that Draper & McBride only came to light last month and since then this car crash just goes on and on. Who would have predicted 6 weeks ago that a no confidence motion in The Speaker of the House of Commons was just around the corner and we would be seeing a resignation.. Who 2 weeks ago would have believed the extent to which MP’s have been having it away, with what was such reckless abandon and who would have believed that it would all come back to haunt them in Spades (There must be a God).
Being a cynic (I’m still trying to work out where the plane wreckage went after hitting the Pentagon) I now always try to look for motives behind actions and this time around I have come to the conclusion that this is a scenario which is outside of anybody’s manipulation. A runaway train.
I sincerely hope that the final result will be a few jail sentences and an early General Election but this then leads me to what is troubling me.
We have the Euro’s and locals around the corner. Prior to all this everyone knew Labour was gonna get a good kicking and the Cons were gonna be the beneficiaries. Now with all the confusion and shitstorms, my take is the Cons and Independents will clean up in the locals with UKIP & BNP and the Greens being the main beneficiaries in the Euros, which then leaves the GE….
NewLiars game was up before Draper/McBride, that episode and the expense shitstorm has guaranteed the extinction of the New Labour Project in it’s current incarnation.
The next revelations are on MP’s other jobs and you can bet your bottom dollar that the left wing press will be bigging that up for all’s its worth and this could be the issue as we go into a GE.
By then the electorate could well be so punch drunk from all of the revelations that it forgets what a fuck up NewLiars have been and we end up with a hung parliament. This in my opinion would be the worst thing that could happen as I don’t think we really know yet just how much shit NewLiars have really got this country into and will be leaving behind. The last thing we need is a bickering government unable to undo the fucking mess these Hoons have left us with.
I suppose my point is that this last seven weeks has been great for democracy in the UK and hopefully things will never be the same again, but its a sideshow to the main event which has been 11 years of scorched earth with regard to our economy, our quality of life, our loss of civil liberties and the fuck up NewLiars have achieved with everything they have touched.
Viewing and witnessing this historic earthquake in British politics has been so refreshing but this battle is almost won, but it’s time to start addressing real issues again soon and make sure that the ideals of NewLiars and their fascist nanny state, mind control freakery are buried for ever.
I’m astounded that Widdecombe is being linked as a possible next Speaker. This woman voted to exclude MPs from the FOI. In that respect she’s every bit as bad as Martin. Will they never learn?
Ya bust’ds!
Ya crookie crak’d and cuk’d
In lard. Ya oila’ skumys
Ya yell’a bell’as spola’s!
Wa’ll ha’ ye! – e’en tha’ rewardy’s co’
Thra’ dae’n ‘an’ wun’ ta’ gae,
An’ tha’n tha’ raest
O’ scunners
Ya’ shit’a heeps a’ stinkun turdy’s
Frae’ fudy’s tht’s tha’ bust in land.
Ya’ win’ an’ dun’ a’ ur’ uxpans’
Wa’ll ha’ ye
An’ wae’l ceas’ ya’ wurdy’s
[TRANSLATION :
You worthless bastards (spawn of unknown parentage, illegitimate in every sense of provenance).
You crooked people, encrusted and caked in layers of putrid oily substance that you have used to oil and sneak your way through life. You yellow bellied, cowardly, worthless scum, - a scum that floats on top of fluid and pollutes it.
We ( the populace - decent people with integrity that care) will have you! (i.e. see to it that you are dismissed, - even then you may connive to obtain rewards).
Three down, we have - the odious politico Bliar, the ridiculous policio Bliar, the ridiculous speaker, and one left, - the ridiculous, posturing hectoring control-freak bully. The rest of the apparatchiks and yes-persons will follow these.
You are shit heaps of stinking turds. And the turds are from the best food and wine that we, the taxpayers provide.
We will 'have' you (i.e. dismiss you) and stop your whining words and sanctimonious bullshit.
Commentary :
The poet, torn between anger (at the state of parliament) and joy (at the dismissal of another bent politico) reflects on the shifty fuckers that have obtained, held, and purloined power and privilege, - and have the audacity to prescribe what others should - or should not - do.]
Will e.g. Balls and Cooper now divorce to be able to double up on allowances?
yea – but no – but, they is progressive – so what they doin marryed anyways?
them should be singletons or paaartnas
then they gets all that dosh, innit
About these show trials; do I set up the gallows in Parliament Square among the tamil asylem seekers or up in Glasgow among the troughing scotties? I will need a lot of rope to get round that speaker’s throat and then I will need some washable gallows for shitty brown. Give me the tools and I will finish the job.
You spelt Pierrepoint wrong. Also, you will have some competition for the post.
As a human being and Christian I feel sorry for him.
We all have frailties, then the sensible me kicks in and imagines Ian Huntley or Ian Brady in the dock weeping
Not for the suffering that they caused to others
Just for having been caught.
Blair, McMental you are next
In this world and the one that follows where you wont be getting three square and some gym time
God really does hate Hoons like you (+:
And cυnts.
What happened about the expenses of that Glasgow chap who got a touch of the vapours?
Guido you wimp. So they still get us to pay their mortgages on their freebee houses? Perhaps i’ll revert to plan A. Firebombs.
Arise Lord Martin
£1.3 million pension..
Cashback!!!!!
Ker…………ching!
The new quango to monitor MPs expenses will be called Offtrough
FU-UK would be more appropriate.
And now that ghastly Esther Rantzen wants to get into the act. There’s nothing the woman won’t do to seek public attention and get the cash rolling in, including a ‘celebrity in the jungle’ appearance , ’strictly come dancing’, interminable pollyfilla features in the Mail and any cause she can swoop on. Now canvassing opinion in Luton to find out her chances as the MP no doubt seen as a good caeer move. The good folks of Luton would probably opt for their corrupt “dry rot” MP rather than the Rantzen creature.
Sausssagess.
But my public adore me. I want to be able to show Parliament all the mishapen vegetables I’ve collected from all my fans.
Guido might be happy, easily pleased, etc. But I’m still voting B N P. Just for a laugh :-)
Looking forward to a celebration on 21st June.
p.s.
How many second homes does the tax-payer need to buy?
An outgoing MP could pass his tax-payer funded home onto an incoming MP.
Or he could give it up to a homeless person or family.
Dan Finkelstein’s think-piece is a Guido special:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/daniel_finkelstein/article6322286.ece
Very perceptive stuff.
There’s a light……over at the Finkelstein place…..
OK – here’s an idea … Move the legislature to the NEC in Birminghan. I’m sure the owners of that white elephant will be happy to take a knock – down price.
It’s big enough to house the whole sorry mess of the politicians and their lackeys, WITH adequate offices so the poor dears don’t feel cramped.
There are hotels either on-site, or close by, to put them up Monday to Friday. Birmingham Airport is nearby and as Brum is pretty nearly in the centre of England road communication, should MPs choose to live elsewhere, should make the commute easy.
It’s about time that London was emptied of the mass of civil servants, thus giving jobs to the regions and lessening the home shortage in the Home Counties and London itself. Added benefits – cheaper houses in the Smoke for REAL workers.
Would it be a good idea to have a performance related element to MP’s wages decided by local and national electorate?
Headeline from the Torygraph:-
” MPs’ expenses: Michael Martin becomes first Commons Speaker to quit in 300 years”
Oh God – is he hanging on THAT long – I thought he was out next month!
When i type in Cameron I get “Slimy Creep Con-man”
strange
If they get banned from taking a profit from their (taxpayer funded) property empires, does it mean the taxpayer has to refund any losses? Not a good idea in a recession.
But of course we could trust them not to take advantage of a downturn in the market in order to make easy money.
So that’s all right then.
JULIE KIRKBRIDE MP
says her expenses are reasonable. brother Ian Kirkbride lives in Bromsgrobe flat and receives benefit in kind as well as parliamentary expenses for computer work – has no other job or home – another fraud within the rules. Employed Naomi Dent as nanny in London home and claimed salary as parliamentary secretary. Cameron should get rid of her through forced resignation or his tough words will be hollolw sham. And now!
right on, a fraudster plotter and schemer who spends all her time dircrediting opponents as well as Cameron. He should get her and oily husband out.
She`ll fix a selection through bribes and smart talk. Cameron needs to act now.
Somebody knows a lot about this walking time bomb.
She’s toast. Julie Out Campaign now running to get her away from the trough.
WHERE EXACTLY IS JULIE KIRKBRIDE`s TATTOO? Information required.
Can`t tell you but its interesting and different! Gordon, Steve and the builder whose name I forget but has benefited from expenses fraud all know. There might be a photo 3 weeks before election if Cameron is stupid enogh to keep her on.
take the obscene pension from michael martin and give him and his wife a state pension…….30 years of theft should bear no rewards!!!!!!!!
if he is hard up he can go back to being a sheet metal worker……..
sitting on his fat arse while his wife goes shopping in taxis paid for by you and i is WRONG!!!!
these hoons always talk about equality-but it is only for us slaves!
well that isnt going to wash!!!!!!!
be brave guido and others-
1 hoon out and joe public hasnt had to raise a finger…….
marches,strikes-emails to mps etc……will force them out…….
they are all cowards really.
Betty Maxwell had her pension taken off her because her husband’s theft. This was particularly poetic as he took great delight in taking the pension off someone else who fell foul of the Mirror Group’s code of ethics.
How the rest of the worlds sees the Michael Martin situation
ALAN no more gardening (uphill doesnt count) Yours is free now ,Fall on your Sword. Mr. Cameron advocates deselection for troughers.
The speaker falls and takes with him?? Prince Charles .. what about his expenses?
Prince Charles supports himself and pays taxes from the Duchy of Cornwall. F–k Off you republican bastard. ‘Hunt’ is good rhyming slang, but apart from that you fail.
Yeah!! He and his ilk filched their wealth many generations ago.
Lived like most ‘aristos’ off the people and troughing out par excellence.
Guido,
Fine.
Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Another government quango whose chairman is nominated by the PM?
Keep the responsibility with Parliament, but make everything financial completely transparent. That means that every MP has to answer to their constituents, rather than another government flunky. Let the people decide if their MP is value for money. How can Parliament scrutinise the government if the government has their hands on each MP’s purse strings?
The members of a constituency (not just party faithful) should be able to call a by-election.
Farewell then
Prickly, decent, lonely, kind – nine years of Speaker Martin
That link on a BBC webpage.Can’t say I ever saw or heard reported anything that would lead me to say he was decent or kind at all.’Prickly’ is a get-out word too.He was a pompous,rude,bullying little man and an incompetent.
expecting a bit of back wash , will guido give up blogging ??, worried about assett realisation ?? guido is one of the few people who turned a fun hobby into the new black , cant fault him , saw a gap and contributed to changing uk polititics , not bad for guiness fuelled laptop meanderings and mischief .
Full hand of broad sheet journos , even the amazing Anthony King has got a slot , a man who has seen real poltics for double the time caesars wife has .
But best daily sketch goes to Quentin letts describing it as like “mafia funeral”
The disappointement was to hear the labour gargoyles (I borrow from Letts again) accuse Michael Martins plotters as being snobbish estalishment coupests . A critique of the 3rd most powerful political figure is a difficult undertaking , but if someone is not doing the job , it has little to do with background , Betty Boothroyd was an ex tiller girl , hardly eatonian , yet she did the job very well with panache and attentiveness to detail . Contrast this with a man who allowed the arrest of mp and the searching of his office , he wasnt too upset that it was a conservative getting some heat . The police should have only have got as far as the incoming telephone call . Some commentators are citing his turning on Kate Hoey and Kenneth Baker as being the final straw .I think it goes deeper than this in that he has all too often become vague , when things like written questions went unanswered for four weeks , the slightly wreckless yet frequent use of “let the honourable member answer in there own way ” and the associated lack of rigour with all too many partisan overtones .
It is hard to say when Michael Martin transformed from left wing backbencher to ideaological fifedom and so completeing the jock mafia ditch Blair future , he never did shed many tears at Blairs ending .But then i look at the clip of those leading him down to the chair on his fixing into that position , is that tom watson i spyed amid the cheers of joy post the whipping frenzy that got the vote .
This unpleasant event is not a toff coup , it is a cross bench realisation that somthing has gone terribly wrong , the mote was only in the eye of the opposition, and that is a democracy corruption , Prescott and Foulkes may well be upset be they dont get it , labour crossed some sort of rubicon in the way they run the country , with a near busted economy Michael Martin should have been allowing the most severest of questions to hit the treasury and the PM , it was not a time for lite touch speakership , yet for two years the sorry farce has limped on , he should not have allowed the government to hide the debts the taxpayer was about to take on , he should have opened up the rock debate like Sherlock Holmes , but he didnt, he allowed the goverment to purvey darkness to the public . All too partisan and it has cost us billions as well as keeping the miscreants in power to carry on with the lies .Same goes for lisbon treaty farce , he should have ensure it was debated not guillotined , another public diservice and let us not forget how he did not crack down on press breifings instead of annoucements in parliment .
But before too many rush to the new ideas market , some are dangerously forgetting that nothing is new in politics , we need to debate properly , the You Tube Era has opened that up to anyone , but when it comes to making the laws which govern us , you must have records and accountability . We know who voted for what , it is recorded , as it is recorded we can see if it expalins or is viable legislation , if it isnt you can write to your mp . form a group or petition ,which in theory should do somthing (alsa not in this case) .
Gordons coversion to giving mps doings to an outside is a hoax as responsibility is being shifted and mr speaker or mrs will be an employee subject to a commitee , bit like the UK and EU relationship if Lisbon is ratified .
The many centuries of carefully honing our parliment into a public service has been corrupted , but that doesnt mean its checks and balances are worthless .
we should be carefull the quangaoracy doesnt seek primacy by stealth over elected accountability .
nor should people assume ending party politics is a help , if that would be the case , you could end up with a police state run by unelected representatives errr hold on minute !
He will be known as Lord Pigswill of the Though.
What’s needed is an elected Upper House of just 100 members.
This would stop all these creeps like Martin and MPs like Straw who might loose their seat just moving on there to continue thoughing.
India….population 700 million….Upper House 250
US…….population 305 million….Upper House 100
UK…….population 60 million….Upper House 746
Can we smoke yet?
Before we go any further….
John Bercow was Broon`s old debating opponent at Embra Uni back in the old days.
McDoom`s political voyage to the right has been mysteriously shadowed by Bercow`s infuriating flight to the left.
Bercow is a cad and a bounder.
Another first for labia….not happy with the first PM interviewed by police and running up the biggest debt in the Hooniverse they now have a speaker resign in disgrace.
Where do they go from here ? First PM committed?
What a laugh, a real hoot.Come election day you poms will be killing each other in the rush to vote for these obscene fucking toads again.
Hang on Phill, we’ve got lots of toads here – I don’t mean the cane type. And they keep getting voted in. See the Sydney Morning Herald today – getting warmed up to the expenses rorts in Canberra a la the HoC. Thats not to mention the stinking corruption in State politics. And don’t get me started on Council planners etc.
Hey Pensioner ours just haven’t been caught yet give me a break, we’ve got em comin out of our arse as well.But hey don’t tell me the left overs of Howard are any better , they are as as crook as a dogs hind leg the fucking lot of them, they are scum.They have been taking the average Joe who is as thick as a bag of hammers for granted, for years.
It’s dollars to doughnuts they will put the conservatives back in power in Pomeyland, who are as bad the other mob.Cameron is a smooth talking wanker, you just can;t polish a turd no matter whose arse it came out of.They are ALL self serving pricks, if I had my way I would take them behind a shed and give them a lead vitamin pill behind the ear.But that would be a wast of time, just wait to the election, it will be business as usual.
Phill, calm down mate. Its good we dont live in Pommie land. But before we start throwing stones we should recognise that out own glasshouse is a shithouse.
Its funny that all our union bigwigs are Scots. The ones that Maggie chucked out. Somehow they ended up here, and we haven’t purged them yet. But their time will come, along with our own peculiar Aussie breed of lying thieving swine.
Hey Pensioner, well never a truer word spoken about living in England. I came from the old dart in the early sixty’s before the politicians turned it into a fucking dumping ground for ever fucker that had a hard luck story.I am sure you are getting my drift?
Unions are like the Police a necessary evil, unfortunately the world is that corrupt, it wont be safe to wipe your own arse soon, some fucker will be lurking at the bottom of the dunny bowl with a security camera to take a snap of your arse hole.No doubt to match it to some politicians boat.Calm down!I aint fucking started yet.
Peace.
You have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a prince. Frogs not toads people.
“You have to kiss a lot of frogs to find a prince. Frogs not toads people.”
Sex with the French is o/k but kissing them?
I’d rather kiss Maggie Thatchers arse.
Has snotty been to Japan lately? I ask cos they just got a huge earthquake.
Scrub the earthquake Sky fucked up.
@nell says: May 19, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I hope his tenure in the Lords will be brief.
I believe that this corrupt Labour Government has so decimated and weakened the Lords, by filling it with corrupt people. that the only option now is that the Lords should become an elected Senate
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Odd, though, innit, that the Lords have done a pretty good job of trying to defend our freedoms against the relentless depredations of New Stasi?
Guido, you’ve done the most brilliant job in initiating the exposure of so much of this utter corruption in Westminster. I hope your Blog will continue to watch whatever new regime and system emerges and is strongly against any support for celebrity opportunists, like Esther Rantzen and Big Brother contestants putting themselves up as candidates.
But Big Bruffa canidates have such a good understanding of the electoral process and how to survive it.
Now watch ‘em all start taking the credit.
Darling Must go Now Party
Manifesto: Darling must go.
Membership Update: 10
Party Chairman: Peter Oborne
must go party now darling
Something tells me that Brown’s agenda has shifted slightly… he used to think that his remaining year would bring economic recovery and another term – now he realises it won’t, but he sees it as enough time to “change the rules” under cover of the expenses scandal.
Expect plenty of changes in Parliamentary prodcedure, regulation – each designed to make Labour’s job in opposition easier. He (or maybe he and balls) are trying to change the system to suit themselves in opposition.
Brown is going to do some more real damage (from the Country & Parliament’s pov) if the campaigns for an early ballot don’t get enough momentum and force events upon him.
Reassuring to know that whilst Gordon says that Hazel Blears’ behaviour was “unacceptable”, the BBC report this morning that she is “getting on with the job”. I guess that means she is working on her expense claims.
What news of Bathplug Jackie? Why hasn’t she been accused by our redoubtable PM of unacceptable behaviour?
“Unacceptable behaviour” maybe but NONE of them actually “broke the rules” that’s Brown’s cop out- listen to his press conference- OK – he showed “sham” moral outrage but with Brown you have to remember to ALWAYS read the small print on ANYTHING he says. Smith and Blears will probably be out of Cabinet but NOT over this – Blears because of her attack on Brown re his Youtube fiasco and Smith because she’s useless in the job but both will be Labour candidates at the election so it’s up to the electorate to get rid of them. In Smith’s case she will not win her seat again anyway irrespective of all this.
NOt only get rid of them but crank mortgage rates up to about 8%. The ultimate revenge on all these property portfolio building bastards. Suddenly no 63K a year plus 40K for the husband/wife PLUS expenses. How are they going to afford the mortgages on their two houses and three flats then eh?
With their dole money? With the earnings from their outside interests? Who the fuck would employ them? Unemployable outside politics and incompetent in politics.
Eh Darling?
100% of the people that you suggest must go are women. You are sexist. We must get rid of an equal or greater number of useless men or my Court of Public Opinion will judge you badly.
Someone just farted. This is unacceptable behaviour.
What is really disgusting is that we the taxpayer have to keep this dead fish alive, the man is just yuk,
I cant say anymore.
I assume we will soon see Lord Martin in the lords, what should he be called, his background is humble, (sorry he soon sorted that out by helping people in politics)so no humble needed.
How about Mc Tosser of the great Mc Tosser it seems to fit in with the rest of his crew.
Humble is as humble does.
Not a great advert for upward mobility
Nice pension packet…….
So he claims a salary for being the speaker of the house and an MP….
Sorry m8 one or the other….
is it me or are they truly living in some tansdimensional world of there own (rhetorical question)?
Lord Gorbals – £1.4million pension pot and comfy seat in House of Lords – Daily Mail this morning.
And they say crime doesn’t pay!
Morning Folks.
Guido,
Your pork-busting job will not be done until you have fully exposed and caused to be dismantled MP’s outrageously generous pension schemes. According to today’s Telegraph, Michael Martin’s pension pot is worth £1.5 – £2 million. The average pension pot is worth just £25,100.
“And the Committee on Standards and Privileges has announced that it has authorised parliamentary standards commissioner John Lyon to hold inquiries into Labour MPs David Chaytor and Eliot Morley – who both claimed expenses against mortgages which had already been paid off.
However, the probes will not be launched until after Scotland Yard has decided whether to open a criminal investigation.
A spokesman for the committee said: “The committee has agreed with the commissioner that he should not proceed with these inquiries until the Metropolitan Police, with the CPS, has completed its consideration of whether criminal inquiries should be instigated into these matters.”
Incredible. Complaints of criminal activity are made but the CPS and police have to “complete a consideration” of whether an investigation should be conducted. Of course no such “consideration” was “completed” in the case of Damien Green.
Brown and his gang have presided over the Zimbabweing of Britain and still the vindictive, egotistical bully refuses to hold an election.
Agree. If a GE is not forced the next 12 months are going to be stuffed full of devious national socialist legislation and “improvement” designed to subvert and scupper the next government. If Labour survive as a party and the rotten, corrupt regime running it continue to do so, aided by their pals at the BBC, there will be nastiness in opposition from day one.
Speaker Marin was a Scottish Mafia plant. His sole role was to do Gordon Brown’s bidding. He excelled at this task!
Tree months? Oaktober?
I’m John Bercow.
I typed “plant” and it came out as “martin”
Brown on GMTV this morning an utter disgrace.
Now GMTV spinning like mad saying he new nothing, he was appalled as his daddy would have been and quote there would be no more ‘moats and manure’ notice no mention of labour mp’s there.
He siad it was only in the last few weeks he knew about any troughing and then said he would sack troughing MP’s then refused to sack his cabinet
Stated he was the only party leader taking action
Got in the tractor stats as well Hoon!
WTF?????? GMTV bought all this and reports it as fact. Please add GMTV to the same list the BBC is on
Whilst watching SkyNews last night I noticed a bar go across the screen. It said:
Hazel Blears constituency have total faith in her as MP and will not be deselecting her…..or something similar.
Can you believe it???
‘The disgraced outgoing Speaker has just announced the perks are going with him’
Guess that includes his £1.4 million pension pot perk which is definitely going with him … the fat cu nt!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1022604/Speaker-Michael-Martin-KEEPS-1-4m-pension-pot-perk.html
Foolish is as Foolish Does
anyone remember filkin (2001), go check her out and the way she was harranged out of parliament….
ps Mr Martin makes an appearance
Once upon a time there was a solicitor
He lives in Southport in the same road as the footballers
He has a £500,000 Ferrari and a £97,000 BMW and a £50,000 motor bike
And he can afford to be a member of Augusta National Golf Club – joining fee £1mill
Oh by the way his wife is an MP
And for appearances sake they keep a little house in Salford which is just for show
His name is Michael Halsall
His wife’s name is not Halsall
She is known as Hazell Blears
Even on the highest throne in the world, we are still sitting on our ass.
“The only way to sort out this system is to go on and sort out this system”
Jeez.
McMental quote from PMQ a few minutes ago.
Intellectual Heavyweight indeed.
Ring the NHS hotline then, swine flu is contagious don’t you know.
I’ve tried that. They told me not to pester any doctors by having the temerity to actually be ill, and basically just to fuck off, curl up in a corner and die.
I tried phoning the hotline but all I got was some crackling.
I think we all agree that John Bercow MP is the ideal man to take over as speaker. Anyone who disagrees is just mischief making and playing politics.
John Bercow = Labour’s choice for speaker
Why’s that I wonder?
yes, and I’m a banana.
rubbish. we need another gay scotsman or maybe bring back St. Tony, who must be pissing himself laughing.
Because he doesn’t know his right from his left, obviously.
Good question. Ok why?
rob ecw john
Or his arras from his rood screen or his organ loft.
How dare you attack the saintly NHS.
Very good value for money at only £150,000 a pop (plus pension) for the average GP.
And what depth of knowledge and care !