May 14th, 2009

2/3rds of Tories Say MacKay Should Resign


  1. 1
    Samee says:

    So do 3/3rds of the rest of us!

  2. 2
    digger says:

    what about Julie?does this mean she’s innocent?

  3. 3
    dirtyden says:

    I voted for deselection of troughers on the ConHome one – and commented that I wanted the little piggies strung up by the snouts (or any other available fleshy protuberance) until the squealing stops.

    If this goes on there will be mutiny on this ship of state.

  4. 4
    Bernie says:

    Did you hear “Lord” Truscott on the PM programme? It was the most arrogant display I think I have ever witnessed on the part of a British politician!

    How can we apply pressure to see that these people are dealt with appropriately?

  5. 5
    peter andre says:

    It might help if I knew who the fuck he is.

  6. 6

    Why only 2/3rds?

  7. 7
    Dick Turpin says:

    Stand and deliver your money and your rights.

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    Ruth says:

    Too bloody right – let’s clear up at least ONE Party! David Cameron has handled the expenses scandal the best of the three leaders.

    We know NuLiebore MPs will hang on until they lose their seats in the GE. No resignations/sackings for Gordon’s lot. After all, he’s only hanging on by his badly bitten fingernails so he’s not going to get rid of anyone.

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    Wat Tyler says:

    string ‘em up!

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    Anonymous says:

    Grab them by the throat.

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    Anonymous says:

    Surprise! It’s another scrote whose name starts with an ‘M’.

    McNulty, Martin, Morley etc,etc…

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    Send the speaker to the tower says:

    The only problem for me if Michael Martin resigns/told to fuck off, is that I will have to change my name.

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    Throbber says:

    I would bet London to a brick that the figures would be almost reversed if the same poll was taken of labour supporters re their piggies.
    Labour = black heart of corruption from the top to the bottom.
    The party and the project will always take precedence with those vile creatures.

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    Dougie - Glasgow says:

    OK, time to start on the EU gravy train as well.

    Fuck these thieving Hunts.

    I’m personally paying over £1300 per month in direct tax & ni, plus a fortune in stealth taxes.


    vote UKIP. Time to end the Euro gravy as well.

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    English Liberation Front says:

    That, DC, would be democracy. If the Conservative party were purged the signal would ring loud and clear. Then all you have to do is remove the Whip and let your MP’s vote on their conscience and the desires of their constituents.

    If MPs are this venal just imagine what the bloated quangos are up to. It’s like thousands of Vampires (the new “establishment”) clamouring to drain the last drop of blood from a single, rapidly expiring victim (the taxpayer). Them and us never had more resonant meaning. Not only do they bleed us dry but they monitor, control, bully and badger every aspect of our lives.

    How much of my extortionate council tax goes towards lthe “perks” of local government parasites?

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    It doesn't add up... says:

    Glad to see you noticed finally… tried posting about this nearly an hour ago, but moderation in all things?

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    Liam says:

    What a shame that so many troughers (that’s a great word, by the way, are you reading OED?) are in “safe seats”

    It could well be that by-elections are pending in SHunthorpe, or Bracknell, or Normanton, but the majorities are massive. The troughers could resign and yet not give their party much of a loss overall.

    The shifts in the political system are still moving. Lot more to come I suspect….

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    And the other third say he should hang

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    Anonymous says:

    Is Gordon Brown going to pay back that £6k for the cleaner then or what?

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    LocalElectionMonitor says:

    This is an official announcement regarding what to do if an MP or MPs posse arrive at your door whilst canvassing for the local elections:

    1. Invite them all in

    2. Offer them some tea or coffee

    3. reset your microwave

    4. Put all their heads in the microwave and gently cook for 6 minutes on HIGH

    Thank you for your time

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    Crackers says:

    Bracknell Cons Party. Here is your opportunity to do something for the country and your Party.

    Deselect Mr Mackay as soon as you have had your hearing which should be asap.

    Set the precedent.

    The nation will be grateful. No time for party politics.

    Give a lead.


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    jgm2 says:

    You are 100% correct. All these quangos and make-weight jobs invented since 2001 by Brown as a mechanism to massage the unemployment figures, increase the payroll vote and pump-prime his ‘miracle economy’ with hundreds of billions of borrowed money just to pay the fuckers to get in our way.

    All those one million fuckers just taking the piss. A million McKays. All sitting in front of their 42″ flat screen TV right now having knocked off at 5.00pm on the nail, climbed into their shiny car bought with even more borrowed money back to their executive home bought with even more fucking borrowed money. Completely stress-free because their job is utterly fucking pointless and unnecessary.

    They are all taking the piss.

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    Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

    Agree – we want blood.

    These statements to say ‘I’m sorry I was caught but here’s some of the money back; now you have to forgive me and it’s business as usual’ is far from enough.

    But we want not just blue blood – we want NuLab’s as well. So where is the guardian of parliamentary standards, Mr Speaker?

    Has he taken vigorous action? No. Can we expect any? No.

    What could he be doing? Ideally, resigning, but failing that, forming four small, independent groups headed by senior judges to examine every member’s expense claims. The groups would report to Sir Alastair Graham, an honest man. Sir Alastair would report openly to the public. At the rate of four MPs a day per group the job would be done in six weeks.

    MPs who were thought to have cheated would be dismissed from the House and by-elections would be held immediately.

    What does Gorbals Mick do instead? Whine petulantly at MPs that it’s their fault for talking to the media. The man is pathetic and should go. The Mail did a major two-page hatchet job on him yesterday, bringing together all his troughiness. They asserted that he won’t resign as he’ll forfeit a £100k payoff if he stays to the next election.

    O/t, but The Petition is now up to over 58,000 and is still the most popular one on the number10 website.

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    The 1,000,000th man says:

    .. and squeeze.

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    Stephen Fry ooo get her says:


    MMMMR Speaker

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    eye-eye says:

    can’t both be guilty. perhaps he’s a fall guy for her

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    Billy le Bob says:

    Hmmmm….. what about ZanuLab and their pigs with snouts in the trough of excess?? Gorddo seems to congratulate them rather than discipline………….. roll on 2010 and the end to the Scottish mafia and Gorbels Mick!!!

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    Airey Belvoir says:

    If we treat, as we should, female politicians as equal in all respects then the fragrant Julie is just as culpable as her husband and should go down with him. They were in the double claim scam together, must have been aware of it, and has to be treated just the same.

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    jordan says:

    who the fuck are you. I earn all the cash around here while you strum on that guitar and blog. Christ its so bad I had to have an affair with Gay bloke.

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    eye-eye says:

    depends on what you think of his replacement

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    Ruth says:

    Have to say I agree with you Throbber, although I think the real grassroots Labour would like to hang ‘em high too – unfortunately, I guess the majority of activists etc take their moral standards from their leader & his badly broken Moral Compass

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    Grapefruit Boy says:

    Our MP, who is in the trough
    trougher be thy name
    thy expenses have come
    thy will be done
    in the papers and then in the courts
    Give us this day our daily trough
    And forgive us our sniggering,
    because we don’t forgive you.
    You got lead into temptation,
    You had John Lewis deliver.
    And now its over, the power and the glory. for ever and ever. Amen

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    dirtyden says:

    “He’s MMMA
    He’s MMMMMMA
    He’s MMMMMMMMad sir.”

    “We’ve got lumps of it in the back…”

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    Moley says:

    I understand Blair and Martin shredded all their expense records.

    The standard approach in cases like that is for HMRC to issue a huge surcharge and invite the victim to prove that the assessment is not valid.

    They need to be treated the same way that the law treats us.

    If they don’t like that, we can all adopt Parliamentary standards of behaviour. We cannot have a country with two different legal systems, one for the politicians, the other for the rest of us.

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    Plato says:

    Try this Labour’s latest party political broadcast for the EU/Locals

    Complete Hoonery – don’t think that their ad agency appears to understand that pensioner bus passes and TV licences aren’t exactly up for grabs.

    The made up Tory baby-eating policies are just risible.

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    Gay Man says:

    Fuck off you trought, I would’nt sleep with you…..ever.

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    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    At this rate we may get to bring back hanging.
    Kick all of these fucking wankers out of OUR parliament.
    I’d do both jobs gratis in my spare time.
    Hang /shoot some twat in the morning look at a few new laws and say
    Then get back to work.

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    jac says:

    “…….. my arrangements would not necessarily pass David’s reasonableness test.”


    Let’s get this clear, him and his MP wife sat down to discuss their expenses. One of them says “You say London is the second home and I’ll say the constituency is the main home and that way we’ll both claim the maximum – nice little earner there”.
    And neither of them said “Surely that’s not right, you can’t be allowed to do that”?

    Hardly needed David Cameron’s reasonableness test, did we. Mind, would love to have been a fly on the wall when DC realised what his Chief of Staff had been up to!

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    Hoddles Waddle says:

    Crucifixion sir

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    fanny by gaslight says:

    David Cameron can drive his chariot like Boadicea through the massed ranks of tory troughers, and cull indiscriminitely, but he should think twice. At the end of the bloodfest he still has to put enough experienced candidates up for election to ensure that the Conservatives win, and the clocks are ticking.
    While I enjoy the schadenfreude as much as (if not more than) most on this board, I am realistic enough to know that only a Conservative government can dislodge the hoons currently in charge. Cameron has played a blinder so far, but he must not get caught up in a war of attrition against his own side. If he does – he is only serving the McBroon’s ends.

    As an example, suppose Nicholas Winterton was asked to resign. (I’m not suggesting he would have to – but he is a good example of a long term backbencher, and he has been suggested here as a contender, rightly or wrongly) . He has been MP for Macclesfield for over 30 years, and is a good constituency mp, with a high local profile. Imagine the resentment of party workers who have known him this long, if they are asked to deselect him and take on some cameroonian replacement at short notice. This applies anywhere in the shires – they are true blue, but not overkeen on being told what to do by etonian pups who were at prep school while they were out canvassing for the Grocer.

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    Susie says:

    I’d imagine so yes. Probably felt she’d suffered enough. He’s resigned, done the decent thing and they’ll be paying the cash back.

    Compare and contrast with Blears, Hoon, McNulty — can’t be bothered to list — so we’ll just say most of the Cabinet.

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    I once shook hands with Maggie says:

    She looks innocent.

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    Browned Off says:

    De-selection on a massive scale across all the parties would be great news for UK democracy (what is left of it).

    With the worst of the troughers out on the dole, we would get an unprecedented intake of new untainted blood in the Hof C at the next election. Maybe we might actually get some MPs who listen to our concerns and defend our interests.

    Oh, sorry I think I am now getting delusional.

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    moral compass says:

    thats what I hate about you liberals you never want to take a tough line on criminals.

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    Anonymous says:

    Oh yeh UKIP done well for us in the EU helped us to get out of it,only MP votes with Liebour plus other little trifles,Ive made my decision and all I want it to do is scare the sh*te out of the EU and this gang of thieves,tried non voting doesn’t work tried UKIP that’s a joke would try Jury but nobody has heard of them outside of blogs,so I am voting for the unmentionables,my vote but god help us.

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    Susie says:

    Isn’t Friday the day he has his weekly audience with the Queen?

    Come on your Maj tell him on our behalf not to come back again until he’s called a general election.

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    Sir William Waad says:

    Moran, don’t forget that particular thieving toe-rag.

    Which reminds me of Italy in 1937, under the fascists – first a famous tenor called Mosca died, then Marconi, the radio pioneer. “Thank God” people said, “it’s the turn of the Ms at last”

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    Stronghold Barricades says:

    Got to say, the conservatives do assassination pretty well

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    Anonymous says:

    ‘ConHome polled…’ – This is just inaccurate, they haven’t ‘polled’ people at all.

    They have allowed a self-selecting sample to press some buttons. If they had phoned a representative sample up, then many more people who wanted him to stay, or who couldn’t give a fuck either way might have been identified.

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    LocalLad says:

    Not all of them. DoverWatch is calling for Shoonthrope CLP to deselect him and reminding them of Tatton 97.

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    Plod-smurf of the Common says:

    That’s a great verbal I think I’ll use that when I nick them both, do you mind?

  52. 52
    Nemo says:

    ..and don’t stop.

  53. 53

    It is self-evidently a sample of ConservativeHome readers. Your point is?

  54. 54
    Anonymous says:

    Is he quitting Parliament or jumping off a ledge? Thought not.

    You just can’t believe a word of the Labour spin machine says these days

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    Scorched Earth says:

    Poll the grassroots of any of the Parties and this will be the result.
    Overwhelming disgust and a desire to get rid ot the troughers.

    Exactly how motivated do you think Party workers will be for any Election leafleting or footsoldier graft now ?

    They know what the public think about all this and they also know that all the after the fact damage control will have a limited success at best.

    And unlike the MP’s they can’t hide in a Second Home and hope it all blows over. The MP’s will be a liability in the street so they will leave it up to the Local Party Workers to face the Voters wrath. That will not go down well. At all.

    I’m surprised that percentage was as low as 82% TBH.

  56. 56
    Anonymous says:

    Is he actually dead, or is that a suitcase of loot I see making its way to the airport?

  57. 57
    Ivor Phartparp says:

    One in three has a criminal record?

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    Susie says:

    Right down to Parish Councils. There’s a certain lady sitting on ours who uses one name for sitting on the PC and another (her married name) on her many and various planning applications. I’ve raised the matter with our District and County councillors but no action.

    Our village is fighting the imposition of a T&G site funded with £750,000 quango money to be spent on just one ‘extended’ family. There are hardly any young people left in the village as we’ve had no affordable housing built for those who grew up here for over 20 years.

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    John Bournemouth says:

    This is not new, this is from 2006

    MPs are claiming twice as much in expenses for their second homes as most families spend on their only home. Some 610 out of 659 MPs claimed Additional Costs Allowance in 2004-05, and the average claim was £17,852. Nearly 200 MPs claimed the maximum amount of £20,902. Some MPs are believed to be using the mortgage allowance to buy a third or fourth property, it is meant to help them to pay for a home in their constituency.

    David Blunkett, the former Work and Pensions Secretary, claimed £75,363 for his second home in Sheffield, nearly the maximum available over the period from 2001 to 2005. Interest payments on his £10,000 mortgage, taken out in March 1988, were £650 a year. His band B property would be charged £988 in council tax; gas, water and electricity bills would average at about £1,100. The modest outgoings suggest a “black hole” of £64,327, it has been claimed.

    Ruth Kelly, the Education Secretary, has been accused of claiming £72,000 to cover utility bills and interest payments that she makes on her mortgage for her constituency home near Bolton. John Prescott, the Deputy Prime Minister, Geoff Hoon, Leader of the Commons, and Margaret Beckett, the Environment Secretary, all live in grace-and-favour apartments. Despite this, they have claimed more than £60,000 of taxpayers’ money over four years to furnish and pay interest on constituency homes.

    Norman Baker, a Liberal Democrat MP, has written to the Senior Salaries Advisory Body demanding that it stop ministers from claiming mortgage payments if they live in free accommodation and that it halt payments to any MP who has three or more properties. (Source: Times Online, Apr/06)

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    HSE Inspector says:

    I won’t dignify that with a response, well not in my own time I won’t.

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    LocalLad says:

    Not all activists are following their lead. DoverWatch is calling for Shoonthrope CLP to deselect Morley and reminding them of Tatton 97.

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    Trough Mixture says:


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    Anonymous says:

    I just saw it on TV (I’m guessing it’s the same one with the punchbag etc.). I couldn’t believe what I was seeing – neither could my wife who isn’t a politics junkie like me. I’m long past considering voting for labour but that would have lost my vote. My wife was probably not going to vote labour but she certainly isn’t now. “OOOGAAA BOOOGAAAA SCARY TORIES!” – Seriously, is that all they have? Pathetic! What are they going to do (other than yell oggaa booga)?

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    Churchill's Cattleprod says:

    Labour’s local constituency associations sold their souls (or rsouls in the case of Prescott’s constituency) to the devil a long time ago. Thus they won’t, daren’t or can’t object to the troughing at all.

    A great day that socialists should finally be showing their true colours, i.e. (as MT always stated) that a socialist is only a socialist until they own their first credit card.

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    Abolish the Licence Fee says:

    BENEFIT CHEATS: WE’RE CLOSING IN ON YOU! (thanks to the Telegraph and Guido).

  66. 66
    Jon Boy says:

    I feel a Nicolae Ceauşescu moment coming on.

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    Anothermouse says:

    Guido – what do you reckon we’ve got coming tonight?

    The dog needs walking. He’s had his legs crossed for a week.

  68. 68
    Gay Bloke says:

    oi is it me or gay man make up your mind

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    Anonymous says:

    ukip just a bunch of troffing scum did you not see them after the last elections they just looked like a bunch of twats that had won the lotery which they had. what we need is a new party i sujest troffing 4 u. policy return 100% of all excess expenses to the uk taxpayer

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    Trough Mixture says:


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    Town clerks says:

    quangoes and local authoities, next tier to be torn down overpaid jumped up town clerks who call themselves chief execs. Out all your porkies.

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    Ballsytw*a*t says:

    Telegraph says Friday will be worse ie the Testicular one and similar?

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    Neil Mac says:

    Can anyone tell me how the one eyed Scottish twat is managing to avoid calling an election ? Yes, you CAN hold on 5 years between shouts, but traditionally it’s 4, so he should be calling one now anyway. It just rude, that is.

    Fucking useless, I honestly beleive he is deliberately ruining the country thinking that when the rightful heir takes his place, the mess will be so horrible, people will get fed up and vote Liebour back in like the shining knights of salvation.

    I live in Spain at the moment, but I swear if was was back in the UK I would HAVE to go to Parliament and shout abuse.

    Bunch of arse, it really is.

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    fanny by gaslight says:

    Always did. Google on “Night of the Long Knives” for more detail. Or cast your mind back to 22/11/90.

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    grandma B says:

    So far, Camerons has juggled his balls well! Let’s hope he doesn’t drop one, which reminds me are Ed and Yvette going to climax tomorrow?

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    fanny by gaslight says:

    Very interesting point. So what’s different now? Did the fall of McBride show that there was a way round the Maginot line of Campbell, Draper and Mandelson?

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    Anonymous says:

    Nice tan though but.

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    He’ll still be able to claim a vast pension, and probably a large parting present. He should be jailed or executed and all the family’s assets seized.

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    Anonymous says:

    Dougie, aye to that laddie fuck the pigs in parliament and the fatter fucking porkers in the EU. Can’t wait for the ‘glorious 4th’ to vote UKIP and tell them all to get fucked.

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    … and return the excess salaries and pensions and other benefits. Sitting on your arse boozing gossiping and voting as directed is not a high level job. £20,000 p.a. including expenses would be ample. Also, there’s far too many of the slimy vermin. Even when caught redhanded they make it sound as if repaying a small portion of their thefts is somehow their great generosity conferring a boon on the public.

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    jgm2 says:

    Dave doesn’t have to impose anybody on the local parties. Just like this MacKay bloek and his missus I like to think that thelocal party will be as pissed off as hell about the atrocious money-grubbing antics of their MP and deselect him and replace him/her with another from amongst their number. I’m sure there is some kind of succession planning in all these local constituencies in any case. There’ll surely be a chairman/woman or some obvious candidate. Several probably.

    No need to get pissed off with Cameron as long as Cameron doesn’t do what Labour seems fond of doing ie parachute in the children of their grand old party faithful.

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    alex taylor says:

    lt’s simple would you put an unmasked fox back in the henrun?

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    Irn Bru Snorter says:

    Dooooooh…..I am such a Silly Old Hector!

    My wife tells me that all the time, fellow Party supporters!

    She says “Darling….you really are such a Si-ll-y Bi-ll-y, you really need to spend more time looking after some of your own affairs rather than spending all of your time trying to help all those poor people around us as you do.

    Tsk Tsk…I bet your expenses claims are ALL in a mess by now…
    Dear, dear….what are we to do with you?”

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    THE ESSEX BOYS says:

    Surely the TESTICULAR (gruesome) TWOSOME?

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    jgm2 says:

    Blair was still Pm. Time to move on. Lookforward. Face the challenges. Work to be done. Plus yep, that’s when McBide et al were telling the papers what to print.

    The Telegraph is late in redeeming itself but it has to be the best 300K they ever spent. If indeed they actually paid up. You can bet Jacqui Smith will have MI5 looking to see who a 300K cheque was made payable to from The Telegraph. Or who recently cashed one that’s employed by the Fees Office.

    Old Purple Face himself will be egging her on. They’ve got form over colluding in political arrests.

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    Mel says:

    Cameron has known about this corrupt system and what his colleagues have been up to for years – as have the other party leaders. Why did he not act sooner? His hyperactivity now is all too little too late.

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    Let the local party associations select their own candidates. There always seems to be a surplus of people wanting to become MP.

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    They should only get on the dole after serving jail sentences.

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    Cardinal Richelieu's mole says:

    De-selection seems fair enough BUT there really must be scope for awarding those so shafted peerages later and hence the chance to return to public life and high office/expense claims.

    It would be the right thing to do. (And would provide cover for other peerage awards for those whose contribution to society (and Party funds, allegedly) merits such distinction.)

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    THE ESSEX BOYS says:

    This is a day for which we have all blogged and begged for a long long time.
    We should be giving ourselves a collective pat on the back that at long last the penny has dropped with The Great British Public.
    The dam has burst and the rotten corrosive system will never be the same again!

    We all have helped do it by following the NETWORK movie lesson from the late great Peter Finch, throwing open our windows and yelling at the top of our voices:


    …and now we won’t have to.

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    Tattooed_Arry says:

    There are plenty of people willing to serve their country, the trouble is they never get through the “one of us” test. In our town the test is:
    1. Member of the Lodge.
    2. Pliant to the wishes of the Hoteliers, Nursing Home owners, Restauranteurs, Property Developers, and Landlords who decide what is good for the Town. Local interests come bottom of the list as all the above have filled their establishments with Africans and Poles. Vacancies filled by agencies operating in their countries of origin. The same sort out immigration papers etc. Jobs are not advertised locally.
    3. Pliant to local association wishes.
    4. Mustn’t give a fuck about the local population.

    The answer as I have pointed out to my local MP, now one of DC’s inner circle, is a root and branch clear out of the freeloaders and me-firsts in the Conservative party. I want to be able to read through Private Eye without raging at the corruption going on throughout this country and thinking does the C Central Office not realise how much damage this drip drip drip of mean, cheap scams being carried out by Conservative councils does to the party’s reputation.

    Leave the cover ups and party-first line to the Reds.
    Clean out the augean stable that is the Conservative party in the shires and there will be plenty of candidates. Good, clean, candidates who are willing to put their country first instead of third.
    And yes I voted Tory last time and always have done. In comparison with the local branches of the Liberal and Labour party, the local Conservative branch smells of roses. But that is no excuse for complacency, our shit still stinks.

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    Gruesome says:

    Two phrases come to mind.

    ‘Money laundering’


    ‘Asset forfeiture’

    Good enough for the rest of us, good enough for them

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    Cardinal Richelieu's mole says:



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    You Couldn't Make It Up says:

    Elliott Morley is that vegetarian anti-hunting hoon whom Blair put in charge of farming ffs! ditto Hilary Benn, in charge of the countryside (or was it vice versa?) Either way it was slap in the face of us country folk – so glad to see them get their come-uppance. Mantraps would be too kind…

  96. 96

    Now that Mackay’s dealt with, time to switch targets; look at : Those Dangling Balls

    Shortly, the DT will “shed light on MPs who are married to other MPs”.

    Can’t wait

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    Throbber says:

    I see now that that paragon of hinesty Claire Short has been filling her boots.
    As I said they are all corrupt down to their toenails. If you are of a left wing viewpoint, you instinctively think you are entitled to help yourself – its the underlying basis of the philosophy.

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    mike clarke says:

    Or just cut their nuts off with a rusty knife!

  99. 99
    You Couldn't Make It Up says:

    Bring back the Lawe of Attainder!

  100. 100
    Newgates Knocker says:

    Just how much shit can the population have thrown in their faces before they boil over?

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    Anonymous says:

    What about Maude. He should go too.

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    Samantha says:

    Quite a few of my friends from way back are or have been until Blair and Co Labour activists – they are very idealistic people with an inability to think badly of anyone (excetp Tories! – me included). Thjey are utterly horrified by what’s been going on

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    Samantha says:

    Susie I really feel for you. That policy is Prescott’s legacy – two finger up to the ‘toffs’ who have worked and saved to live in a decent village. I truly hate that fat buffoon

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    Cardinal Richelieu's mole says:

    Good point – although the gormless and gullible muppets: –

    – accepted an illegal war on false pretences and that made their own security more fragile,

    – were told they “could” have an apology but weren’t worth one, and

    – responded by rewarding the alleged war criminal perpetrators with a fresh term in office to carry on failing to reform public services and failing to repair the roof before the financial storms came.

    Who would have thought they would care about a few £ for baubles and perquisites?

  105. 105
    Samantha says:

    Yes, let them weigh the degree of ‘troughing’ against everything else they know aobut their sitting MP. No doubt some will survive and some will get the heave-ho. Part of the problem is that MPs have been encouraged esp under the current regime ie Speaker to think of expenses as a sort of hidden salary top-up rather than as expenses in the sense the rest of us (and the IR) understand the term

  106. 106
    Parish Councillor says:

    Sack the lot of lem and start again, then call a general election.

    Just been in my local pub. This subject arose. I have never witnessed such loathing of politicians – unbelievable – but oh, I enjoyed it!

    Thieving bastards the lot of them,

    England, glorious England, has at last found its voice.

  107. 107
    fanny by gaslight says:

    The only solution to the problems you mention is for non-pliant people, with their world view and trouser legs fully extended, to join up en-masse, and effect change from within. This has been a great topic with plenty of good points – I’m glad I started it, though I was a bit afraid I would be demolished for my presumption.

  108. 108
    Anonymousl says:

    Watch Beckett get a kicking on Question Time tonight – “after that mealy mouthed answer Mrs Beckett are you going to pay back the £72,000 you claimed ?”

    Now I know how being part of a lynch mob feels ! The anger was electric !

  109. 109
    fanny by gaslight says:

    Last time it went on nearly the full five was with Callaghan in 1979, though he had to bail out a tad early as his majority was eroded by sitting Labour MPs being carried out feet first after being stretchered in for 3 line whips, and the defection of the SNP, who Callaghan referred to as “Turkeys voting for an early Christmas”. That’s why McBroon can’t cut a swathe through the troughers and deprive them of the whip (though he is in a better position than Labour in 1979 with regards to his absolute majority). And the same goes for Cameron, though to a lesser extent.

  110. 110
    fanny by gaslight says:

    Sorry – the Major government bailed out even later in the cycle. Must have blanked that out through post-traumatic shock. Still – the Gotterdamerung atmosphere then will give no comfort to the McBroon.

  111. 111
    Duncan says:

    What about his wife? It’s very conservative to take the fall for one’s wife but they were in on it together. Maybe it shows that Tories still aren’t comfortable with the equality of women…

  112. 112
    VoiceOfSense says:

    Tory voters are a lot less harsh on financial corruption than the average electorate. Indeed for some Tory supporters the most unforgivable thing an MP has done coming out of this is not having a Moat and therefore making the constituency look less affluent than its neighbours.

  113. 113
    Silvio Tanner says:



  114. 114
    Silvio Trillions says:





  115. 115
    pigs in space says:

    It’s just part of the natural life cycle of a Labour government

    stage 1: give shed loads of money to your mates and anyone thick enough to vote Labour

    stage 2: run out of money

    stage 3: blame the Tories

  116. 116

    I thought it was Tuesday?

  117. 117
    Kim Novak says:

    Please can someone explain why Hattie Harperson doesn’t call Plod in to do a bit of collar-feeling?

  118. 118
    Anonymous says:

    Deselected? Imprisoned. These people are CRIMINALS. Such scum go to goal.

  119. 119
    Saatchimo says:

    Yet again, they just don’t get it!

    A prelude of knocking copy against the Tories followed by a vacuum of Labour policy statements equals a crap ad. Most of us would like to know what the bloody New Labour crew are going to do about the crooks in our midst and the mess they’ve made of the country.

    Political advertising at its worst – shoot the agency.

  120. 120
    Saatchimo says:

    Possibly, but can anyone who consorts with someone like that actually BE innocent?

    Butter may melt, but mud sticks, you know.

    I want to know whether the Balls duo have been doing the same.

  121. 121
    Saatchimo says:

    You are guilty of lese majeste.

    As we all know, “Lords” are to be strung up in a silken hangmans rope after due trial by their peers. Ask Earl Ferrers.

  122. 122
    JesmondJim says:

    Mr and Mrs

    Andrew,how would describe your wife’s attitude to money?
    She’s a thieving slapper who’s had her fingers in the till for years’

    Julie,how would you descibe your husband’s attitude to money?
    He’s a corrupt lying twat who’s been ripping off the taxpayer shamelessly.

  123. 123

    […] contrition once they’re caught? Small wonder, then, that the readers of ConservativeHome have turned on Mackay in their droves, and Labourhome is pondering whether the party should deselect the MPs who are […]

  124. 124
    going down the pan says:

    that fucking chipmonk is on sky news again does she never miss the oppertunity of getting her kite on the box

  125. 125
    going down the pan says:

    that fucking chipmonk is on sky news again does she never miss the oppertunity of getting her kite on the box…

  126. 126
    going down the pan says:

    that fucking chipmonk! is on sky news again does she never miss the oppertunity of getting her kite on the box…bitch

  127. 127
    going down the pan says:

    totally agree with pigs in space

  128. 128
    Pol-e-tics says:

    Today, Friday, a domestic seems to be developing between Julie McBride and Andrew McKay (aka Mr and Mrs).

    Yes, both are greedy, but if we believe Ms McBride, Mr McKay is the evil one of the two. “He has a lot of answering to do,” she says.

    Despicable politicians fighting like rats in a sack to protect individual interests – despite being married? Maybe.

    But I’m inclined to believe Julie Kirkbride’s defence that her husband is a rat. I could never understand why she married such a creep in the first place.

  129. 129
    jorgelinas says:

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