May 13th, 2009

PMQs All Within the Rules Edition


415 Comments

  1. 1

    The loon can hardly read his notes.

    Just useless.

    • 5
      Gordon McHoon says:

      Try and pin me down on anything…I’m as slippery as an eel.

    • 15
      Anna R says:

      What a damp squib of a PMQ’s!!!!

      Zak wonders whether MPs have the morals of rats ?

    • 32
      Mark, Sidcup says:

      The old rule on expenses insisted they be REASONABLE, Brown has promised (ahem) to make the rules “fair”.

      Fair between whom? When spoiled children use the term “fair” they normally mean “I want at least as much as the other kid is getting”. Fairness to the supplier is never considered.

      The whole problem with expenses is that MPs are not reasonable and they are not fair to the tax payer. They are only interested in getting as much as the other kid/MP – even those MPs who never held a proper job and expect to live as richly as a millionaire.

      • 138

        Actually, in children “fair” is just a word that they know pushes certain buttons with adults. A magic word that lets them get their own way more easily.

    • 36
      Steve says:

      Now that was boring. Very quiet and restrained.

      DC was okay, good to mention the comms allowance and the number of MPs, good of Clegg to keep on the Gurkhas and the idea of MPs renting rather than buying in London.

      Gorbals looked like he was on notice but still called 7 or 8 plants from the govt bench and only a couple from the other side.

      Cameron 9
      Clegg 6
      Brown 2

    • 86
      I'm changing my name from Brown by deed poll says:

      Like the Nazi War Crimes Trials at Nuremburg, “I was obeying orders” is NO defence.

      They all have their trotters in the trough of gold.

      And where is my vote on the European Constitution, sorry Lisbon Treaty.

      • 315
        Constitutional Expert says:

        No, you got it right first time.
        The European Constitution.
        Which supercedes the British Constitution… hold on, er, that isn’t possible according to the British Constitution which is supreme…confused?
        The idea is of course to confuse.
        It is not possible for the British Parliament to be slaves to another constitution.
        We didn’t win the war to give away power to a foreign parliament made up of the enemies we defeated.
        It is unconstitutional and perverse and cannot stand.
        And it will not stand.

      • 378
        Elby The Beserk says:

        None other than tyranny to be governed by those one has not voted for. Simple as that.

    • 101
      Toothfairy says:

      Gordon – you fanny, let’s do a sum….

      You say you want to audit all MP’s receipts for the last 4 years? Okey dokes, let’s do the math you buffoon. 647 MP’s for 365 days – 236,155 days. With an average staff of say, 4? That’s 944,620 spending days. Let’s say 4 purchases a day per person, now we are on 3.7 million transactions. Commute that into Euros, dollars, pounds and francs – 15 million, 113 thousand, 920 calculations!!!??? Gordon – are you mental? – for FOUR YEARS!!!!!!!!!! HA HA HA!!!!! 60 MILLION 455 THOUSAND 680 bits of paper!!!! Bash on you idiot – at least it will stop you invading another country. FOOL.

      • 221
        plastic tray man says:

        It is never designed to actually achieve anything, it’s there to bury it under mounds of red tape and bureaucratic smoke/mirrors. It’s Gords answer to all his problem, bury them and hope that the plebeian masses conveniently forget that they exist. He could always draw up controversial plans for a law to promote sheep shagging or something.

      • 282
        Hoon and Darling - prosecute them says:

        Exactly – he is trying to bury it all under the theory that in a week’s time we shall all either have Swine flu or have totally forgotten it all.

        None of our children deserve this criminal as our leader – we must evict him NOW – march on Parliament Sq and not leave until he calls an election.

      • 335
        Feduptothebackteeth says:

        Brown never does and never has ‘done’ anything, he announces things, usually hosing our money at something.

        Its as if saying something makes it automatically happen.

    • 209
      Toff cunts R us says:

      Is Jon Craig in the running for a wee postie as Brown’s new media advisor?

      He’s beginning to resemble Campbell just before Blair apponted him spinner in chief.

    • 280
      JimDee says:

      He’s a fish out of water:

      http://i44.tinypic.com/2r76c10.jpg

  2. 2
    An incoherent, bloated, sweating, fatuous tub of furious lard, says:



    Aye! Ma blud’ i’ boilin’

    Yon skinny lass’ wi’ a’ cloth raend ha’ neky’ hae’ nae’ respec’ fa’ ha’ elda’s aen’ buttas’

    If she upsae’ ma’ agin’ ah’m minded tae pu’ ha’ accro’ ma’ kne’ and tich ‘ar some manys’

    Cos’ nuthin’s ma’ fult ye und’stn’

    [TRANSLATION :

    I am still smarting from the exchange with that slim young lassie who wore a red scarf.

    Clearly, she has no respect for her elders and betters, let alone the Supreme Leader's Chief Jobsworth in the House, and other Party Top Dogs.

    IF SHE STARTS AGAIN I MAY WELL PUT HER OVER MY KNEE AND TEACH HER SOME MANNERS!!

    And, just like the other crook who fancies Himself as Leader, nothing's my fault. ]

  3. 3
  4. 6
    Silvio Tanner says:

    THE APATHETIQK VOTER IN THE ASCENDANTSEA IS THINQKING ABOUT REDUCING THE COST OF POLITICS TO AN ABSOLUTE ZERO

  5. 7
    Anonymous says:

    Nice to see Brown being utterly destroyed yet again.

  6. 8
    Peter says:

    With great power comes great responsibility (hat tip: Stan Lee). And with those, above all, comes accountability. Why, at the moment, when one asks ‘who is in charge here?’ (and has been for over a decade – where’s Al Haig when you need him?), do I suspect sets of digits, and a few stumpy ones, will suddenly mutely point in every direction save one.

    Also noting the spotlight swinging around some other areas, with ‘Channel 4 staff attacked for “grossly excessive” pay’

    Market rate talent requiring public subsidy as the money model doesn’t add up. Interesting. As was their reply.

    Because I do rather think that pointing wherever else possible in comparison in a ‘two wrongs make a god given right’ isn’t working too well at the moment in the public domain at the ‘mo.

  7. 9
    Anonymous says:

    I couldn’t be less interested than I am in this expenses “row”.

    I couldn’t give a flying shit.

    • 10
      Gordon McHoon says:

      As I’ve clearly demonstrated, nor could I.

      • 19
        Anonymous says:

        Fuck off Brown. All this expenses thing does is to take the heat off you. If people in this country – and particularly the press and reactionary blogs – had half a brain they would be concentrating on the real issue; namely that the country is being run by an incompetent who refuses to call an election or indeed do ANYTHING that this country actually needs (contrary to what he says in practically every one of his daily television appearances).

    • 23
      Messrs Balls & Cooper says:

      Expenses!?
      Can we have some… where do we sign?

    • 41
      TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

      FX: Mark Oaten seen running around with mouth open.

      • 47
        Twizzle says:

        Fucking pipsqueak.

        On Sky News doing the paper review. Did he make himself look a complete moron, or what? Another one who ‘doesn’t quite get it yet’.

      • 150
        Cicero says:

        Did you clock the droopy moustache he looked like he was growing?
        Next, it’ll be the leather cap and sleeveless leather jerkin…

    • 49
      TheCourtOfPublicOpinion says:

      FX: Mark Oaten running around with his mouth open.

    • 289
      Devil Rides Out says:

      ‘Fucking pipsqueek’ = best insult I’ve heard all morning

    • 371
      Anonymous says:

      So you are not a taxpayer then, and neither do you care about what happens to the Mother of Parliaments?

  8. 12
    Eddie says:

    When will the PM be speaking to the Prime Minister of Swee Wanker?

    He keeps tripping up on his words!

  9. 13
    Silvio Tanner says:

    APATHY WON HANDS DOWN

    ASTA

  10. 14
    Brown's Klingon says:

    They STILL don’t get it!
    ITS ALL OVER!

  11. 16
    Mrs Crewe says:

    The Unspeakable of the House is still breathing I am so sad

  12. 17
    Anonymous says:

    I agree.

    They just DON’T get it.

    Cameron appears to.

    Don’t claim for stuff that’s difficult to justify based on moral rules.

    Brown: “Independent inquiry” yada yada. Probably take 2 years, cost £6 million and find out noone broke the rules.

    How f***ing thick are these people?

  13. 18
    It doesn't add up... says:

    Telegraph injunction failed?

    • 51
      Steve says:

      I’m desparately trying to find a source for the injunction story but there’s nothing outside this site at the moment – anyone else found one??

      • 83
        NewGirl says:

        Me too. I just don’t get it. What possible legal reason can they have to suppress publication? And getting an injunction would only make it worse, surely? Also. why hasn’t DT published the fact of the injunction, if it exists? And aren’t they fucked in July anyway???

      • 109
        Dr Feelgood says:

        Private Eye have a gagging order on them for something. Hislop whinged about it in the CMS committee privacy hearing.

        http://www.epolitix.com/latestnews/article-detail/newsarticle/committee-briefing-culture-media-and-sport/
        He also illustrated the dangers of injunctions on freedom of the press, explaining that he had been sitting on a public interest story for four months.

        “We attempted to run a story in January, we still haven’t been able to run it,” he said.

        “The journalist put it to the person involved, there was an immediate injunction. Essentially it’s censorship by judicial process. It takes so long, it costs so much.

        “That is a real problem and it means four months later I’m sitting on a very good story – a proper public interest story – which I cannot run and it would have been in the public domain if I hadn’t tried to act responsibly.”

        No evidence to suggest it is about Balls/Cooper unfortunately.

      • 112
        mitch says:

        Well the ‘official’ publication in July will be redacted i.e. the useful information, like addresses, blacked out. It’s the un-redacted version that reveals the REAL scandals.

      • 114
        Steve says:

        I’ve got a couple of post comments on conservative home, lots of post comments here, inc an anonymous poster on this thread quoting Talksport

        NOTHING on BBC, Telegraph, Timesonline, Iain Dale, Guardian Media, google news…..

        If it was lifted an hour ago as was speculated SOMEONE would have printed it by now.

        Help us out here Guido!!

      • 122
        Bardirect says:

        There’s nothing in the Daily Cause List about the Telegraph but Private Eye/Pressdram are due to have a judgment handed down in Court 7 at 9.45 A2/2009/0206 PQR & anr -v- Pressdram Limited next Tuesday 19th May.

        Nor any obviously anonymous cases (except the usual family ones)

        http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/cause.htm

      • 162
        NewGirl says:

        Tanks BarDirect…I did have a gander at the court list too, like you say, nothing doing. I think we have the same job… :-)

      • 202
        Steve says:

        I just listened to Talksport news “from the Sky news centre” at 2pm, NOTHING THERE about any injunctions. Nothing on Sky TV news nor any of the sources above. :-( :-( Much as I’d like to believe it I can’t until I see it written down fron at lease two sources.

        Bardirect, Newgirl, good link to all the court cases, looks like Private Eye might have their story next week – from memory it was something to do with massive waste and cost overruns in a large govt department. Quite surprised to see only the one case listed under Pressdram though, normally they’re in court more than once a week!!

      • 298
        Hoon and Darling - THE BIG FISH IN THE POND OF DEPRAVITY says:

        YOU ARE ALL MISSING THE BIG STORY – HOON AND DARLING AND MASSIVE FRAUD
        KEEP THE PRESSURE ON THEM

    • 144
      Steve says:

      106 Dr Feelgood – the Private Eye injunction was definitely related to someone else, a national newspaper published it the other week but it for some reason it seems to have ‘gone away’…

    • 235
      It doesn't add up... says:

      If it was so secret that its mere existence wasn’t to be mentioned, then presumably it wouldn’t be listed for hearing. Look for the dog that doesn’t bark… a courtroom apparently not in use, perhaps?

      • 240
        It doesn't add up... says:

        Another tactic could be posting at the DT: supposedly they had been taking down posts about the Quincunx

      • 253
        Steve says:

        It’s not abnormal these days to have an injunction with a gag order attached that prohibits mention of it, but these are only supposed to be in cases of national security (D-notice) and issued by a Minister.

        If, as was suggested, there was a gag against the DT that was lifted a couple of hours ago I would have thought they would mention this heavily ASAP so as to get the rest of the media reporting it – that there’s nothing anywhere suggests that there’s something else to it. Maybe they are just saving the best for last, so to speak ;-)

  14. 20
    Silvio Tanner says:

    THEY IN PARLIAMENT QKANNOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
    THE RULE OF LAW AND THE RULE OF JUSTICE

    ASTA LA DIFF

  15. 22
    dextershut says:

    Can’t sort Pakistan from Afghanistan at the start….that helps!
    Yet more Committees and Inquiries to sort Expences…….what a burke.
    It now about respect and credibility and that can only be via the ballot box.
    A dead man walking methinks.

  16. 24
    mallardwithalimp says:

    Michael Howard says having a lame duck government leaves our country at a disadvantage.

    Surely there can be no greater advantage. Every hour they’re worrying about expenses receipts and plotting to oust the leader/speaker/whoever, is one less hour they can spend fucking up our lives.

    I vote we pay them all 65K pa to just fuck off somewhere else and stay there. Bargain.

    • 29
      It doesn't add up... says:

      +1

      • 59
        Silvio Talli says:

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    • 70
      Douglas Adams says:

      We’ll tell them there’s an asteroid on collision course for the Earth and because they’re so important they can leave on the first spaceship to their new home orbiting Alpha Centauri.

    • 77
      Abolish the Licence Fee says:

      Bloody good idea, mate. Where should we send the cheques?

  17. 25
    Anonymous says:

    I hear that a complaint has gont in to the BBC from the Tories about Nick Robinson’s pro-Labour bias.

    Is that why he’s on his best behaviour on the Daily Politics at the moment?

    • 31
      NewGirl says:

      has it? bout bloody time

    • 35
      It doesn't add up... says:

      No, he’s still taking his instructions from the Bunker:

      “BBC Political Editor Nick Robinson says Mr Brown’s YouTube announcement of his plans to reform expenses infuriated many of his MPs. His attitude to reform, and the need for due parliamentary process, at PMQs, was part of his efforts to repair relationships, he adds.”

      • 47
        Lennie the lion says:

        From an earlier thread:

        BBC dissident says:
        May 13, 2009 at 9:21 am

        I think it’s appalling the way that Nick Robinson takes regular phone calls from Alistair Campbell and Peter Mandelson discussing what line to take on the latest political revelations.

        It was most obvious on the Radio 4 Today programme this morning when Robinson and Evan Davies tried to imply deceipt and wrongdoing on Cameron’s part over his mortgage interest payments and the unsubstantiated suggestions that Tory MPs are angry with him because he is wealthy and can furnish his house unaided by expenses whereas they cannot.

        This is pure Labour spin, and, of course, there was no mention of the far biggest offenders in all of this like Darling, Hoon, and Blears.

        It’s no wonder we call him Toenails at the BBC.

      • 50
        Anonymous says:

        BBC dissident says:
        May 13, 2009 at 9:21 am

        I think it’s appalling the way that Nick Robinson takes regular phone calls from Alistair Campbell and Peter Mandelson discussing what line to take on the latest political revelations.

        It was most obvious on the Radio 4 Today programme this morning when Robinson and Evan Davies tried to imply deceipt and wrongdoing on Cameron’s part over his mortgage interest payments and the unsubstantiated suggestions that Tory MPs are angry with him because he is wealthy and can furnish his house unaided by expenses whereas they cannot.

        This is pure Labour spin, and, of course, there was no mention of the far biggest offenders in all of this like Darling, Hoon, and Blears.

        It’s no wonder we call him Toenails at the BBC.

    • 81
      Abolish the Licence Fee says:

      Unreformable nest of Commie vipers. What else should we expect?

      • 229
        Toff cunts R us says:

        Of course Nick Robinson is swayed by nuLab. He was a leader of young Conservatism at the height of Thatch.

        NuLab and Thatcherism are the same authoritarian shite!!

    • 224
      Susie says:

      Not on the Toady he isn’t!

      He was careful to mention MPs “moats, chandeliers, ride on mowers and swimming pool boilers” — then almost as an aside “(oh and property speculation)” — as a finale “Michael Gove has paid back his £7000 for furnishing his houses and flats (note the plurals, when he’s only got on of each) but what about his excessive £500 hotel bill?

      Would be a Tory in his sights for the sign off wouldn’t it? He’s like Grima Wormtongue and we want Aragorn or Gandalf to slay him and kick him down the steps.

  18. 26
    It doesn't add up... says:

    From BBC DP blog:

    “Ex-London Mayor Ken Livingston says Mr Brown is not light on his feet at PMQs and is worried about how far he can take his MPs on expenses reforms plans.”

    They don’t like it up’em

    • 34
      NewGirl says:

      I’d love to see Livingstone’s Mayoral expenses in detail

    • 308
      newsed1 says:

      Super-clean Livingstone hired the live-in-mother-of-his-children as an office manager. Her starting salary was around £96,000, but a news blackout was placed on her employment.

      A number of GLA workers were very pissed off when they found out they took a copy her playslip to the press, who wouldn’t touch it. The story was revealed on the first anti-Ken website, Sod-U-Ken, which was subsequently hacked into and crashed.

      Emma Beal’s job was only mentioned in the press after Livingstone was booted out, but it meant Ken’s household income when Mayor was around 250k….

      Socialism seems to be a terrible expensive way to live…

      • 323
        Doctor Mick says:

        It’s not socialism which is expensive its the fees of private capitalist schools which elite socialists deem it necessary to send their brats to.

  19. 27
    Anonymous says:

    What the f*** is this muppet on about?

    Padding on goalposts?

    In the house of commons?

    Jeez, is this what I pay tax for?

    • 143
      Postal Vote says:

      You’re also paying tax to facilitate Presscott’s destocking ahead of a new expenses claims for food

  20. 28
    Road_Hog says:

    Well, that was certainly pish poor, a bit of a let down.

  21. 30
    Anonymous says:

    TalkSport just mentioned that an injunction against the Telegraph publishing the expenses of Ed Balls and four other Labour politicians has been overturned in the High Court. Should be interesting.

  22. 33
    Anonymous says:

    Brown is completely out of touch and falling apart at the seams. Cameron wiped the floor with him at PMQs. It’s getting embarrassing now, we need a general election urgently.

    • 43
      An ordinary voter says:

      I think we just saw Brown hand over the title “Prime Minister” to Cameron live in television.

  23. 38
    Lennie the lion says:

    Telegraph injunction overturned!!

  24. 39
    1984 is a Labour Party instruction manual says:

    Skinner: Is he the Labour MP who can most cosely sympathise for McMental’s disorder.
    He’s nuts too.

  25. 42
    NewGirl says:

    Think DC is coming into his own at the moment. Good lad.

  26. 45
    RavingMad says:

    where was the blood?

    I didn’t see any passion or anger.

    complete let down.

    they’ll just continue as if nothing’s happened.

    what is the point????

    • 54
      Anonymous says:

      Cameron was good. He is dealing well with this expenses scandal unlike Brown who has always tried to just cover it up.

      • 130
        Alien8n says:

        Put yourself in Brown’s shoes. Second thoughts don’t.

        Brown has to cover it up because the majority of his MPs are troughing. If he suddenly says “no more troughing, we have to clean up our act” he’s going to suddenly find that the number of rebels doubles overnight and the Government loses it’s majority. The expenses are the only thing keeping them in line. Lose the expenses and the Whip loses it’s control. In fact if he condemns the expenses he runs the risk of his own backbenchers calling for a vote of no confidence. May as well, it’s the only thing that’ll save them at the next election.

    • 64
      the Unknown Streetcleaner says:

      There’s no blood cos Brown is a bloodless corpse.
      The whole system is constipated until he is ‘eased’ out of the way.

  27. 56
    Anonymous says:

    That was a disaster for McDoom.
    He didn’t even put up a fight, he just walked away and hid in a corner mumbling to his friends.

    Major, even at his weakest wasn’t as supine.
    The Labour party is doomed if it keeps Brown.

    Who will provide the opposition in the next Parliament? There won’t be enough Labour MPs to fill a double-decker bus if Brown hangs on much longer.

    • 65
      Hugh Janus says:

      “The Labour party is doomed if it keeps Brown.”

      Excellent, let’s hope they oblige!

      • 88
        nell says:

        His responses were very ‘wooden’, and despite the fact that he is only in his fifties he looked an old man . But then the whole front bench and the Speaker looked depressed and were subdued.

      • 104
        mitch says:

        Politicians are only angry when they know it doesn’t matter.

        This time they’re shitting themselves. We can only hope……

  28. 57
    NewGirl says:

    Was funny watching Blears. For once not nodding furiously with that revolting fixed smarmy grin on her face. Noticed she didn’t blush when the capital gains issue was mentioned though.

  29. 58
    Mr Ringworm says:

    Cameron looks like a Prime Minster.

    To be honest, I’m quite excited about him getting in now and I’m usually an apathetic Hunt.

    He’s passed this latest test with flying colours. BROWN OUT CAMERON IN AND LETS START REBUILDING THIS COUNTRY

    • 68
      lololo says:

      A big problem with that,it requires Brown to see the Queen, and the braindead voters to vote for cambo plus an honest postal vote plus we definatly will need UN/EU monitors in to make sure it’s done properly as you can’t trust this lot that’s in now.

  30. 62
    Anonymous says:

    It is perfectly clear that McBust can’t take decisions, preferring intead to refer everything to committees. That’s why he will never be seen as a leader. That’s the NuLiebour way of doing things, which is why we are in such a bloody awful mess.

    • 125
      nell says:

      I thought DC’s comment that the PM even needs a committee to tell him whether to drink tea or coffee in the morning was very apt. He is genetically incapable of making a decision.

  31. 72
    It doesn't add up... says:

    If Brown had been smart he’d have asked the Speaker to call an instant vote by acclamation on withdrawing the communications allowance.

    • 92
      Anonymous says:

      Brown is not smart.
      Brown is not quick.
      Even he should be able to walk away with PMQs as a draw – he’s got the last word, FFS!

  32. 73
    Johan says:

    An interesting footnote reference Michael Martin in The Guardian…

    12.34pm: The parliamentary channel has kept Michael Martin’s microphone open. I heard a Labour MP tell him, as he was walking out of the chamber: “I’m with you all the way.” Martin replied: “Good man, good man.” Another told him: “Thanks a million.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2009/may/13/pmqs-live

    • 97
      Entomologist says:

      Flies always stick to shit.

      • 108
        Johan says:

        and your name indicates you should know! :D

        I’d love to know who it was that was speaking to him…

    • 98
      It doesn't add up... says:

      Politicshome reckons 85% of MPs want to ditch Martin: The Mail’s poll suggested 80%. That has to include a lot of Labour MPs. Even those with anteater snouts may realise he’d make at least a temporary scapegoat.

      • 119
        An ordinary voter says:

        Gordon’s saving him for after the euro elections – to deflect attention from himself

      • 176
        nell says:

        If the Daily Telegraph manages to publish the truth about his monstrous expense claims then it might be sooner rather than later – he looked very glum this morning not at all his usual pompous self. Anybody remember the night this shower came into power “It can only get better” – Look at them now!

      • 190
        It doesn't add up... says:

        Should be next week. Just check Carswell’s blog:

        http://www.talkcarswell.com/show.aspx?id=705

  33. 75
    Master Baiter says:

    George Osborne was kept well clear of the cameras, his flycatching was completely out of control.
    What’s the cause?

    All we could see was Hague and May, the other woman that always used to sit where May was today has been ‘vanished’.
    Who is/was she?
    It shouldn’t be hard to find out, there are so few women Conservative Members of Parliament.

    • 85
      NewGirl says:

      Oh do fuck off,

      • 100
        What Gordon did next says:

        Seconded

      • 124
        Master Baiter says:

        Why are you so nasty?

        Are you a Conservative?

      • 145
        NewGirl says:

        just bored of your puerile comments MB. You still haven’t answered the question I asked you about a week ago, about 6 times, about Uddin. Why is that?

      • 179
        Master Baiter says:

        Baroness Hogg wife of diddycoy yellow belly Hogg MP and barrister, Viscount Hailsham was a naughty girl. She claimed overnight expenses when said cohabiting partner had residence in walking distance of the House of Lords. This when she herself was a Director of the venture capital group 3i on hundreds of thousands of pounds salary among many other large income sources.
        See how that plays with the swing voter.
        Roll on 1 July 2009, your lot will be battered and deep fried.

        Swimming-Pool-Horse-Manure-Moat-Chandelier-Wisteria, love those hyphenated names

      • 198
        NewGirl says:

        you just can’t do it can you? pathetic.

      • 398
        thick as thieves says:

        I never thought I would EVER say this but I am in complete agreement with Newgirl. she is totally right about you masterwanker.
        you’re a fucking idiot.
        either that or you are a tory fifth columnist spouting your nonsense to purposely lose votes.
        in which case, I salute you sir!
        sterling work!

    • 107
      Hoddles Waddle says:

      and where was jaqui smith then.

    • 128
      blood boiling says:

      She’s the one that claimed for the dog food. Cheryl Gillam

  34. 76
    Swiss Bob says:

    Want to know more about Margaret Moran MP?

    Our investigative reporter Tynan Wierd has been on the case: The Mysterious Margaret Moran MP.

  35. 79
    Ian E says:

    Rather laughable the suggestion by the TV chef that MPs should be paid (and housed) royally!! They already are, Mr W-T: just because they do not benefit from your outrageously high pay does not mean we should pay them more – rather, we should pay you less!

    • 94
      Anonymous says:

      Anthony Worrall-Thompson is a spiv who, while not prepared to risk a penny of his own money, thinks the banks should take the risk for his dodgy businesses.

      • 137
        Uncle Knobby says:

        bearded cnut.

      • 192
        Hoddles Waddle says:

        and a really really shit chef

      • 347
        Laughing at Gordon says:

        I bought a packet of Antony Worrall-Thompson’s sausages once. There was a picture of him on the wrapping and underneath it said ‘Prick with a fork’.

  36. 82
    Theresa Villiers says:

    she will not repay her £18,181 claim for ‘additional costs allowance’ even though she is a shadow minister in the Conservative Party. David Cameron said carry on.

    • 90
      Anonymous says:

      The biggest sleaze so far is from Labour. The property empire building by Hoon, Darling, and Blears puts everything else in the shade.

      We still have Balls, cooper, and Hain to come of course, not to mention Blunkett with his love nest on the Chatsworth estate.

    • 113
      What Gordon did next says:

      Are you having one of your cross dressing moments CH dear

      • 120
        David Heathcoat-Amory- Savoury-Biscuit-DooDoo says:

        Horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure,

  37. 84
    Anonymous says:

    Witht the Telegraph injunction reportedly overturned will we be reading about Balls, Cooper, Hain, and Mick Martin in the next day or two.

    Andrew Neil blogs that the worst is still to come as regards cabinet ministers’ sleaze

    • 153
      a lesser rag says:

      If I was the DT I’d publish a special “BALLS AND COOPER ARE BIG FAT THIEVING CNUTS” edition tomorrow with a special “AND THE BIG THIEVING CNUTS TRIED TO COVER UP THEIR THIEVING” supplement.

  38. 91
    Anonymous says:

    I am most probably going to get lambasted for this but I believe what we will see over the coming months is a seismic shift in british politics.

    Labour was never going to work and never has (new labour, old labour or just plain old socialism). Society moves forward when people that can achieve are given the freedom to do so.

    What I believe we will see is labour relegated to 3rd place, at best, in the political landscape.

    My hope is that we have a Tory government, not by a landslide, but with a workable majority as it is the only party that can get us out of this mess. With the Libdems as the 2nd party to keep our lot on its toes.

    Tory driven progress with a social consience held to account by a libertarian opposition is just about the best outcome we could hope for from this sorry mess.

    • 361
      Anonymous says:

      If you want a libertarian opposition why the hell would you want the opposition to be the LibDems. They want to ban everything they don’t like.

    • 397
      jgm2 says:

      I’d second that. I was glad to see the back of Major in 1997. I really did believe that thiiiiiiings could only get betteeeeeeer.

      But now we’re at the stage where things can only get worse. And the imbeciles who bequeathed us this shitfest are still in government. I was wrong about the Tories. Whatever their faults they know how to balance a budget. They understand the importance of living within your means. This bunch of imbeciles are just the political wing of Karen Mathews. Political fronts for the latent idiocy in the terminally stupid.

      They need to be relegated to the point where Labour MPs lose their deposits.

  39. 93
    Concerned Therapissed says:

    Meanwhile four servicemen’s bodies arrive home at Lyneham.

    • 95
      Anonymous says:

      Is Gordon there to greet them?

      Anyone from the government?

      • 123
        Anonymous says:

        Has anyone from the government EVER been at a repatriation?

      • 155
        Anonymous says:

        What do you think ? No votes in it !

      • 170
        Matthew Lowe says:

        Of course not, they’re only interested in clearing their names sufficiently to keep their seats, anyway the war was Blair’s thing not Hoon’s. For fucks sake the man cant even stand up for himself in the lower house, his leaderlesship is appalling and he’s got absolutely no sense of compassion for anything or anyone. The death of more service persons is irrelevant to him because it can’t win him votes, had there been a good opertunity for positive spin you can bet your bottom dollar (or pound if you’ve got any left) that the whole fucking front bench would suddenly feel the need for a very public outpouring of grief and sympathy

      • 173
  40. 103
    Anonymous says:

    Brown wants police to walk people home from cashpoints. Guardian readers think he’s gone mad:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/may/12/gordon-brown-cashpoint-police

    • 111
      freddie flintoff says:

      think you mean know he is bonkers

    • 115
      An ordinary voter says:

      Surely it’s similar to Blair’s idea of marching yobs to cashpoints for on the spot fines – that didn’t work either.

      It’s difficult enough to get the police to turn up within 24 hours of a burglary let alone phoning them up to escort you from your local banks’s ATM – you’d be standing around for hours – a great target for muggers !

    • 149
      Colt45 says:

      So as they can arrest them for sticking up a bank with a piece of plastic.

  41. 105
    Flatcap Army says:

    Ignore the expenses nonsense. This clip ought to become Labour’s equivalent of John Redwood mouthing along to the Welsh national anthem.

    Buttock-clenchingly awful

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8045722.stm

  42. 110
    Anonymous says:

    The economic situation of the UK is far worse than they admit. The govt and the bank are lying to us:

    http://cynicuseconomicus.blogspot.com/

  43. 116
    Silvio Talli says:

    *
    DGJHENETIQKALLi MODIFIED NON~SLIP BANANA SQKHINS,
    ARE THINGS THAT NO POLLYTITIAN
    KAN DU WITHOWT

    ALL THE EUROS
    KARRY A PAQUETTE OF FREE,
    WEN OWT ON THE HUSTINGS,
    WHORE OWT AND ABOUT

    • 127
      Anonymous says:

      Tertiary syphillis?

    • 166
      Andy Carpark says:

      As this seems to be the nutters’ thread, I have something off topic to get off my chest.

      In my office, we have this basement area consisting of a small kitchen and a lounge with computer terminals. I sometimes go down there to buy stuff on Amazon as shopping sites are blocked from workstations.

      Anyway, whenever I’ve been there at the end of the day, in comes this bloke from the payroll department and puts a ready meal in the microwave, cooks it, takes it out, goes to a table and eats it out of the plastic tray. He doesn’t even bother putting it on a plate. He eats it out of the plastic tray.

      It seems to be a sort of stew and potatos type thing. And that’s it. That’s his tea. And he goes down to cook it in the microwave every day. At 5.30. He’s a freak.

      • 185
        plastic tray man says:

        fucking hell, what a weirdo

      • 203
        Road_Hog says:

        How long have you worked in payroll Andy?

      • 222
        Andy Carpark says:

        Reminds me of the story about the penitentiary chef in Annie Proulx’s “That Old Ace in the Hole”.

        A condemned prisoner loftily demanded venison for his last meal.

        “The son of a bitch got a cheeseburger like everybody else. And if I’d a had my way, he’d have had a roadkill.”

        (BTW, I do not work in payroll; I do the filing and keep the basement tidy. We here at Gonads International have recently installed an indoor racist for the benefit of all our staff.)

      • 312
        The master is coming, the master is coming! says:

        Brillant! Mp should have that same London facilities. No expenses, just a microwave in the basement, a load of chepo bunk beds and an old 14″ B&W TV that doesn’t pick up Channel 5.

      • 348

        Andy, he’s no freak, he’s just careful about using his own electricity. Just think how much he’ll save over a year by microwaving in the office instead of at home!

        Of course, if the Inland Revenue get wind he’ll have have to pay additional tax for a “benefit in kind” …

    • 241
      Anonymous says:

      For goodness sake, take your caps-lock off.

  44. 121

    Gordon has repeatedly asked for “Independent Scrutiny” of MP’s expenses.

    We’ve got news for you: Independent Scrutiny: We’re already doing it.

    We’ve got all the info. we need, thanks to the Telegraph: we can make up our own minds now.

    We’ll take it from here, Gordon.

  45. 126
    Mohammed Al Fugg says:

    Is there any hard news about this injunction?

    I’m itching to watch Balls/Cooper taken down.

  46. 132
    NewGirl says:

    am desperate for the final lot of revelations – please, please let it be about Labour – surely it has to be? If nothing momentous happens tomorrow or Friday, the disappointment is going to be cataclysmic! May jump in the moat. How well the DT have run this though – got to hand it to them. And no leaks beyond vague rumours about what’s to follow.

    • 142
      Johan says:

      I’m rather hoping they’ll be saving something big for some Sunday fun… perhaps Balls and Cooper?

    • 243
      Steve says:

      It would be quite good to have a day or two off – then the final big bang!
      Probably the nats and others tomorrow, Fri and Sat off then Premier League hoons on Sunday!

      There’s actually a few missing so far:
      Balls ”n’ Balls
      Blunkett
      Mandy
      Hoon
      Hain
      more on Blair?
      Gorbals
      Boris?
      Wintertons
      there’s a Tory couple I think

      Enough to do one really big hoon a day until NEXT Sunday…..?

      • 274
        NewGirl says:

        NOT BORIS! please….l!

      • 310
        Master Baiter says:

        Good point
        Boris Johnson please note his care of the public purse.
        2007/8 £23,083 (joint 1st) 2006/7 £22,110 (joint 1st) for ‘additional costs allowance’ a feat of delicate political sensitivity, for a greasy, short tempered, racist, lover and champion of thieving, incompetent bankers.

        It’s probably all mortgage interest so according to David Cameron it’s whiter than white, of course.
        But if it’s not all on a mortgage he’s bound to have made an ass of himself.

      • 319
        Pearly Cnut says:

        Thats why us Cockneys elected im

      • 382
        Anonymous says:

        and the Robinsons

    • 331
  47. 136
    anon says:

    Was Nazi genocide condoned on the basis that it was within the rules made by the Nazi state that perpetrated said atrocity??? NO.
    When a set of people can make their own rules about how much money to take from the taxpayer, simply adhering to whatever these rules happen to be is not an automatic defence, morally at any rate.
    Merely returning a proportion of second home allowances is grossly inadequate. ALL second home allowances, plus punitive interest, should be paid back to the taxpayer, except to whatever extent it can be conclusively demonstrated that these allowances were used to RENT property from non relatives, non friends and non business associates. IN FUTURE, where second properties are necessary, they should be state owned, and occupancy be transferred from one MP to the next.
    To all cheats: Be sure your sins will find you out.
    To all hypocrites who claim to be “purer than pure”: Be sure your sins will find you out.
    REPENT AND DO PENANCE (i.e. at the very least pay back your ill gotten gains plus punitive interest).
    Otherwise, on the last day, the Lord will cast you into the fiery pit, where there is a great weeping, and wailing and knashing of teeth.

    Also abolish the BBC tax without delay.

    • 151
      freddie flintoff says:

      agree with da bbc sky sports is much better better for my wallet

  48. 139
    anon says:

    Was Nazi genocide condoned on the basis that it was within the rules made by the Nazi state that perpetrated said atrocity??? NO.
    When a set of people can make their own rules about how much money to take from the taxpayer, simply adhering to whatever these rules happen to be is not an automatic defence, morally at any rate.
    Merely returning a proportion of second home allowances is grossly inadequate. ALL second home allowances, plus punitive interest, should be paid back to the taxpayer, except to whatever extent it can be conclusively demonstrated that these allowances were used to RENT property from non relatives, non friends and non business associates. IN FUTURE, where second properties are necessary, they should be state owned, and occupancy be transferred from one MP to the next.
    To all cheats: Be sure your sins will find you out.
    To all hypocrites who claim to be “purer than pure”: Be sure your sins will find you out.
    REPENT AND DO PENANCE (i.e. at the very least pay back your ill gotten gains plus punitive interest).
    Otherwise, on the last day, the Lord will cast you into the fiery pit, where there is a great weeping, and wailing and knashing of teeth.

    Also abolish the BBC tax and all state funding of television.

  49. 152
  50. 158
    Martin Day says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8047607.stm

    At 30 Seconds to 40 Seconds into this Clip Gordon Brown calls reforming MP’s expenses “Extreme Action”!!! It is not Extreme Action but the Correct/right course of action!

    It is obvious the interests the PM is looking after and it is not the people!

    • 168
      Silvio Talli says:

      *
      TAO TU SHUI

      I TAKE NO ACTION
      AND
      THE PEOPLE ARE TRANSFORMED OF THEMSELVES

      ASTA

      • 239
        Monkey Chops says:

        Nurse! Quick! More sedatives!

      • 247
        Andy Carpark says:

        Emperor Chuang Tzu: He didn’t do nothing. He just faced South.

        (Is the world ready for Emperor Chuang Tzu?)

        Too many Chinese, says Brown.

  51. 161
    Desperate Dan says:

    The BBC second home allowance and “moving” costs for their move to Salford is a lot more generous than the expenses for MPs.
    And we never heard the details of the investigation of Alan Yentob’s misuse of expenses? The sums involved dwarfed Westminster expenses.
    Its not ok to rip off taxpayers but its ok to rip off licence fee payers.

    • 168
      Anonymous says:

      David Aaronovitch said yesterday that it’s a load of fuss about nothing and that the public should stop working themselves up into a fury of self-righteous, hypocritical rage.

      • 187
        Silvio Talli says:

        *
        NUFFING TIMES GNUFFING AMOUNTS 2 GNUFFING MUTCH
        MUTCH ADO ABOWT GNOTHING,
        AUNTIE MAUD IS A FRAUD,
        THE BBC GNEADS STUFFING

      • 196
        Anonymous says:

        Golly, sorry David – you’re right – well you and Stephen Fry – yes I will stop being tedious and bourgeois about this. Lucky you were here to tell me how to think – phew!

      • 400
        jgm2 says:

        On one level I agree with Stephen Fry. When I was newly hired twenty odd years ago a significant part of my earnings came from my mileage allowance. Not because I was falsely claiming fake mileage but because the per mile allowance designed, as it was, to take into account wear and tear on an average car was money in the bank for the borderline legal old nail that I was thrashing around the Queen’s highway.

        I can still cut some slack to a new hire on today’s equivilent of (say) 18K a year. But when you’ve got the equivilent of the Blair Babe intake who were in their late twenties when plucked from obscurity and their salary tribled overnight then to go on and kick the pants out of expenses for property speculation and Barbe-fucking-qs mysense of humour evaporates.

        But I’ll tell you this. If this government had run the country properly so that now, with this US downturn, we were relatively insulated due to the fucking great war-chest Brown had saved up during the good years I’d be far more accomodating to a little troughing on the part of our MP’s. If Brown et al could seriously point to the monumental pile of cash they’d salted away this past decade for the good of UK Plc then I’d have no problem with a few million quid expenses for the troops (MPs).

        But the fact is that while Brown has been arse-fucking the UK economy the Labour troops were too distracted by permanently being fucked-up on tax-payer sponsored grog to do their job. Apparently Churchill, who Brown likes to quote by way of associating himself by eeeerrrr association, was fond of a few bevvies. But at least he had a fucking solid grasp of the end goal. By contrast the entire Labour government seems to have, as it’s end-goal, being in power. Bwahahahahaha.

        They seem to have had no sense what to do with it and if any old idiot wanted to take control then fine as long as they got to strut about with their chest puffed out, their missus (mistress?) employed as a 40K per year ‘secretary’ and their kids assured of the nomination for their safe seat when they retired on their copper-bottomed pension.

        Job Done.

    • 195
      Desperate Dan says:

      1630 BBC staff qualify for £46,000 each. They will get £3,000 for carpets and curtains; £350 per trip to look for a house; £5,000 relocation allowance.
      Staff who DON’T quality will get 8,000.

      In the unlikely event that they want to sell their London homes the BBC will buy them to avoid staff having to suffer the stress of selling a house. -

      • 236
        Hoddles Waddle says:

        Christ when I moved from Brighton to my current shit hole in the East Midlands I was given a £14000 package, and I struggled to spend that.

      • 396
        Alien8n says:

        I got 4k when I moved to here. Took 18 months to move, amazingly we had enough left after 18 months of renting a room in a farmhouse (50 quid a week) to pay the fees at the end. So how the fuck are they spending 46k?

      • 404
        John Smith says:

        £350 per trip?

        I see that there will be a lot of tripping going on.

    • 197
      Minekiller says:

      True, not to mention the quangocrats and others in the state sector. The add the huge waste which McSnotty laughingly calls “investment”, the fake unemployment figures masking the real numbers of those economically idle in short, the cost to the taxpayer of the NuLabour voting base.

      Then, the mickey mouse parliaments in NI, Wales and Scotland, the EU and so it goes on. Big government costs too much. if it was dismantled, or largely dismantled how much would we be worth?

      Why tax income, simply tax spending – give people choice to buy what services they want. Political reform, a whole clean out and a new beginning. Our system is out of date.

    • 218
      It doesn't add up... says:

      Where’s our Hazel of Salford with a quick reminder on how to do it?

  52. 167
    Sunday Morning says:

    I don’t think the rules on expenses need changing. They just need to be enforced more rigorously by an independent body working on behalf of the taxpayer. Come to think of it, they just need to be enforced. With every expense claimed should come a description from the claimant about why it is they regard it to have arisen out of their participation in parliamentary business. And failures to have expenses agreed should be published for all to see.

    btw…have the Speaker’s expenses come out yet? Other than what we already know about?

  53. 172
    Anonymous says:

    Is Gordon Brown still a SON OF THE MANSE? We don’t hear much about that anymore.

    Does he still have a VISION and a MORAL COMPASS?

  54. 178
    Mooville says:

    Interesting comment by official watchdog at the end of this article stating expenses are open to abuse. oh dear, how sad, never mind. eddie and yvette… don’t you just want to give them a big hug?

  55. 180
    Anonymous says:

    Can someone please explain exactly what all the rules are for MP’s and Peer’s to steal money from the genral public are?

    • 194
      Anonymous says:

      Yes. The rules are claim loads of money for your family to work for you, even though they don’t have to do any work at all. Then spend as much time in your office in Westminster claiming expenses rather than doing any work whatsoever on behalf of the public who voted you there.

      Basically if you are an MP you can steal and it’s legal. If your a member of the public you can not and you go to jail.

  56. 183
    Mooville says:

    should have included the link re last comment. how sad having o hurry o use daughter’s lap top…shoulders droop.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1567397/Balls-and-Cooper-claim-300000-in-expenses.html

    • 205
      NewGirl says:

      wow! things ARE getting better. I had no idea…..!

    • 250
      nell says:

      Interesting too in that article, which was dated 29 October 2007, which says that GB was sent in the summer(2007) a report from the Official Watchdog warning of an expenses/pay system open to abuse and recommending a tightening of the rules. Here we are in 2009, 2 years later, and still GB hasn’t acted on it – He simply isn’t fit for purpose.

      • 259
        Groucho says:

        Only 2 years? Oh come on, be reasonable. That isn’t nearly enough time to fudge, call an ‘independent’ enquiry, dither, procrastinate and generally fanny about – anything in fact, other than make a decision.

  57. 184
    Anonymous says:

    BBC: tomorrow is “couple’s day” in the Telegraph.

    Step forward Ed and Yvette, and Mr and Mrs Keen!!

  58. 186
    WobblyJim says:

    /rant on
    It’s an easy matter to settle, get the Inland Revenue to provide the parasites with a copy of the existing rules, issued to UK corporates and businesses which are very specific regarding what is and what is not a valid and allowable business expense. Expenses are NOT perks or suppliments to a salary, they are refunds of money that you have spent on business matters and are repaid to you, within allowable criteria.
    I spent over 25 years in several corporations and I was always required to keep reciepts and only claim for reciepted items within an allowable list, no exceptions. Any abuse of this system was a disciplinary offense and deemed serious enough to cost me my job in the event of any abuse.
    There can be NO justification for these pigs excluding themselves from laws which are enthusiastically imposed on every citizen and every business in the country.
    If these general IR rules are too onerous or difficult for these fuckwits, then they must change them to benefit the country, not just themselves.
    One set of rules for all, on taxation and everything else

    Thankyou for listening
    /rant off

    • 199
      Corporate Warrior says:

      Expenses abus is so rampant in the corporate world that this Corporate Warrior has large monthly expense targets to be reached in order to avoid the more senior staff looking greedy. It’s not easy having expensive lunches with people you don’t particularly like. It’s also tiring and fattening. It’s a living though.

      • 352
        Susie says:

        Ah but every person I know/knew like that either dropped stone dead of a heart attack at 60 (or before) or has a stroke… what comes around goes around.

    • 291
      Anonymous says:

      What you’re saying is obvious to any normal/reasonable person who isn’t a complete twat with no understanding of reality.

      But Gordon Brown is a twat, he’s not normal or reasonable, and he’s as far away from understanding reality as you can get.

      If Brown understood anything at all, he’d know that he doesn’t need to set up a committee/review to come back with recommendations that can then be debated for days and finally dilluted/dumped.

      All he has to do is say “see those tax laws that everyone else in the country has to abide by? hey; let’s just use those. after all, they’re laws that we’re supposed to be abiding by anyway legally. our own “rules” don’t supercede tax laws; the law is the law, and we’ve been breaking it. so let’s just stay within the law, guys, how about that?”

      they could bin all their reviews and weird committees, and simply say “let’s just use the tax law same as everyone else”

  59. 189
    • 207
      Ewanme says:

      Jesus H Christ !!!

      Looks like they hit the jackpot , honey !!

      E x .

    • 227
      Abi Cuss says:

      One can only guess what they’ve been trousering more recently.

      • 231
        NewGirl says:

        The mind boggles. Can’t believe they had the front to turn up for PMQs today!

      • 257
        Groucho says:

        It takes Balls to do that

      • 263
        Master Baiter says:

        Ed Balls claims £7,407 less than David Cameron in ‘additional costs allowances’. This is despite Cameron having a substantial personal and family fortune.
        Yvette Cooper claims £7,407 less than David Cameron in ‘additional costs allowances’. This is despite Cameron having a substantial personal and family fortune.
        Together the two MPs claim £4,812 more than Cameron.

      • 277
        NewGirl says:

        tell us about the second home allowances though MB…

      • 290
        Master Baiter says:

        You need help.
        ‘Additional costs allowance’ is what is sometimes referred to as ‘second home allowance’. The term second home allowance is incorrect because for example some MPs choose to use the allowance intermittently and therefore do not maintain a second home but stay in a hotel or make some similar temporary arrangement. An example would be the Luton North Labour MP, Kelvin Hopkins who claimed £1,242 as opposed to Witney Conservative MP, David Cameron who claimed £19,626.

        Hope that is of assistance.

      • 305
        Margy says:

        Why do you lefties (masterbaiter) always harp on about peoples’ private wealth? Is it sour grapes or envy and jealousy. Cameron’s private wealth is totally irrelevant, as is anyone elses – this is not the issue here. The issue here is theft from the taxpayer.

        If you want to discuss private wealth let’s talk about Mandelson, the Blairs, Geoffrey Robinson, Geoff Hoon etc etc. The difference between this lot is that they made their private wealth off the state (ie the taxpayer); at least the tories either inherited it or worked hard for it – something nulabour pigs would know very little about.

        Now go away and stop trying to spin and twist the truth you pathetic creature.

      • 309
        Augeas says:

        Don’t forget the poor lambs’ £283,000 of salaries and £180,000 of office expenses, old cock.

      • 311
        Margy says:

        Master Baiter – you are wrong about the Balls couple but I am not going to argue with you; just keep your good eye on the Daily Telegraph!! I can tell you that Balls and Coopers expenses will be shocking and will probably prompt a resignation. Why the hell do you think they have been trying to take out injunctions?

      • 322
        Desperate Dan says:

        What’s :Luton North got to do with the price of tripe? You could probably buy the whole of Luton for £19.99 cos no-one in their right mind wants to live there. Whereas Whitney is a very desirable location, therefore very popular, therefor very expensive.

      • 337
        Master Baiter says:

        The amounts shown above for Balls, Cooper and Cameron’s ‘additional costs allowance’ are correct.
        There is no indication that there is or has been an injunction against the Telegraph restricting publication of details relating to Balls and Cooper.
        The fact is that the Wintertons situation and previous censure is going to foil any astro turfing attempt to smear Balls and Cooper.
        The Conservatives are against an attendance allowance because it means they would have to attend.
        Roll on 1 July and second earnings disclosure.

      • 340
        Master Baiter says:

        Desparately Dull,
        The point of Luton North is to illustrate the reason why it is called ‘additional costs allowance’.
        That is all.

    • 237
      Manure Parliament says:

      It helps them do their jobs as MPs.

  60. 193
    Master Baiter says:

    Wimbledon and Twickenham are filled each year with corporate expense account fiddlers. Many of their guests are Conservative politicians and their bag carriers.

    • 200
      Sir Reginald Titbrain says:

      Shock horror

      • 279
        Master Baiter says:

        Ascot, Ryder Cup, Cheltenham, the list goes. On a bunch of useless goons usually bankers and their hapless customers digging massive holes in pension funds and creating incredible mortgage endowment shortfalls.

        All within the HMRC rules of course.

        As Madshipmann Dunghill Hannann would say the ship is taking on water, those rats will drown, many have drowned already.

        The freebies will continue though, won’t they?

    • 206
      Minekiller says:

      And the majority freelaoders at sports events are Labour…..

    • 212
      resurgemus says:

      Ah MB – the nation’s best argument for post-natal abortion

    • 214
      WobblyJim says:

      Corporate hospitality budgets are nothing to do with an individual employee’s expenses reimbursment rules.
      MP’s abuse of their expenses system is the issue under debate, not advertising and hospitality budgets of corporations and businesses.
      A huge difference.

    • 234
      Hoddles Waddle says:

      Or how about the box at Wembley or O2 arena…..ala Keith Vaz

    • 252
      It doesn't add up... says:

      Or a limo to Celtic?

      • 293
        Postal Vote says:

        Celtic, so that’s why Gordon is talking up the catholics in meetings with Queenie (apologies, but monarchies are a bit outdated).

        By the way, I would not let the speaker collect for the cause. The money will never make it over the Irish Sea!

    • 357
      Susie says:

      I remember Sharon Shoesmith pictured enjoying a (publicly-funded) jolly at Ascot a few days after Baby Peter was murdered on her watch, the bad news didn’t seem to affect her enjoyment from the photograph.

      So Ascot’s not the exclusive preserve of corporate sharks and the landed gentry, Wish it was.

  61. 201
    Mooville says:

    And? hands up who thinks Mr Baiter should put a couple of rats down his trousers and then release a Jack Russel?

    • 210
      NewGirl says:

      i’m against cruelty to animals…

    • 215
      Silvio Talli says:

      *
      *
      *
      OPEN THE BLAIR FILE

    • 251
      Hoonbusters says:

      Nah. He’d probably enjoy it.

    • 284
      MB has 12 inches. A pity it's growing out of his head. says:

      I’ve heard that Blackbirds like pecking at worms.

      • 353
        Silvio Talli says:

        *
        THE WURM IS SET TO TURN UP
        BORN AGAIN
        AS PRESLYDENT OF THE EUROMONSTERSTATEUNION
        AKA THE EU AKA THE EE AKA THE EUROPEAN EMPIRE IN LATIN
        IN ROMA IN ROME IN IT
        INIT

        BLAIR WILL BE BEATIFIED
        INDyEND

        YU LOT HAVE HAD IT NAO

        THE GNU WURLD PREATCHER COMETH

        THE BLARE FOUNDATION IS REDDy TO SPOUT FORF

        BLAIR WILL BE APPOINTED AND ANNOINTED

        BLAIR WILL BE YOUR BLOODY BLEEDER FOR LIFE

        AND HE NEVER EVER EVER FIDDLED HIS PERSONAL EXPENSES

        *
        A SAINT IN THE MAY KING

  62. 213
    Scrobs says:

    “We still have Balls, cooper, and Hain to come of course, not to mention Blunkett with his love nest on the Chatsworth estate.”

    In all the excitement, I completely forgot these gits!

    Marvellous!

  63. 219
    Rick the Roman says:

    Is this a sign of things to come? We know where the Met can make many, many more detections for fraud

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8047419.stm

    • 388
      Silvio Talli says:

      *
      Number 10 Special

      NATIONAL MINIMUM WAGE OPPORTUNITY
      MORE FORENSIC ACCOUNTANTS AND ORDITURS WANTED

  64. 220
    Mooville says:

    Aw, jack would only find eddie festering in baiter’s sac. got to hide somewhere! did someone mention sack. Que the bomburst of rattie Nulabs scurrying for cover. NOTE to Mr Baiter…suggest bigger pantaloons.

  65. 223
    spokeswoman for the kuntocrats says:

    pipe down plebs

  66. 225
    Gordon McHoon says:

    [bunker talk]

    “I accuse Cameron of belonging to a do nothing party and his poll rating keeps on improving. Mmm…I need a soundbite good enough to destroy him at the next PMQs”

    [next PMQs]

    “I am the do nothing leader of a do nothing Government!

    [opposition benches]

    Ha Ha, stamping, Hee Hee, waving order papers, Ho Ho, cries of stop it!

  67. 226
    spokeswoman for margaret moran says:

    right thats it – brake out the tasers

  68. 230
    the irish nation says:

    that fucker’s passport’s been pulled, she’s a 100% Brit.

  69. 232
    resurgemus says:

    Expenses : Maguire says it’s all the Tories fault as they didn’t repeal the Corn Laws properly.

    Gordon Brown is keen to move but his independent commission has only had 12 years and is already half way through its review.

    Or maybe it’s the bloke just can’t make a decision ?

  70. 238
    Master Baiter says:

    As you see I am still employed following the smelly fart trail of my master Gordon’s appalling inability to govern the country and present myself to the British people in an even remotely credible and attractive way.

    Stooge for the Labour establishment=about as low as anyone can stoop.

  71. 244
    Hokey Cokey Expenses System says:

    In, out, shake it all about.

    Claim it, receive it, pay it back.

    Coming next: The Parliamentary Conga to the polling booth.

  72. 255
    101 uses for an MP says:

    15. Flower pot holder

  73. 256
    A lying, cheating, snivelling little git, says:

    There being no committee of guidance, I did not have sex with that woman, – any woman.

  74. 260
    Pissed off voter says:

    Some of these MPs are just too thick for words.

    I just watched Tony Wright and Theresa May being asked about the Speaker and refusing to offer any criticism, presumably adhering to the adage of honour among thieves. Or perhaps they still don’t realise that their beloved system run on ‘trust’ and ‘respect’ is shot to hell and the dishonourable Mr Speaker is continuing to fire on the tattered remnants. Either that or they are just plain cowards.

  75. 268
    Master Baiter says:

    The speaker is hanging himself, the miserable weasel, more fun to watch him do it. Hope he pisses his kecks like Brown as the rope does it’s work.

    • 275
      M.T.BUCKET says:

      The speaker faces no confidence motion next week, preceeded by cataclysmic bowel motion.

  76. 269
    Anonymous says:

    Ok so let’s get this straight. Brown goes on Utube(without telling his backbenchers) about how HE IS going to reform parliamentary expenses. Apart from his fuckin awful performance, his crime was he didn’t consult any one.

    Any way his backstabbers, sorry backbenchers said, “oi you can fuck off, if those bastards over there have got tennis courts and moats and fuck knows what else, we need the money to get our tennis courts and moats too, so there ain’t no way you’re going to change anything. Just keep plodding away, you know, stonewalling, and if you get no 10 to continue briefing our good friends Robinson, Craig, Bolton etc and all our other friends in the media, then with any luck we can carrying on thieving!”.

    This is all about the usual power and class. Believe me they won’t give up without a fight and that includes ensuring the speaker stays in place. There ain’t no way that fat Hunt is gonna go. Any one like to disagree?

  77. 272
    Fluffy Dusters says:

    Nothing on:

    Winterton & Winterton
    Keen & Keen
    Cooper Balls PLC

    Why the fuck not?

  78. 273
    Spanish Inquisition says:

    Our one main weapon is theft and dishonesty.

  79. 278

    Ahh even handed Guido has been very very schtum on the Fib Dum’s though.

    Take for example “whiter than white” Norma Baker- the John le Carre of Westminster

    Campaigning Norman Baker MP claimed for a new bicycle and broadband

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5315118/Campaigning-Norman-Baker-MP-claimed-for-a-new-bicycle-and-broadband-MPs-expenses.html

    Just to paraphrase:

    “Mr Baker, the MP for Lewes, also claimed for hundreds of pounds of food at his flat in London under the Additional Costs Allowance while MPs were on holiday.”

    “Mr Baker, the party’s transport spokesman, wrote to the fees office on June 21 2004.In the letter, he asked officials for “your approval for a couple of items of expenditure I wish to make under my London living allowance.

    “The first is for a bicycle for use predominantly between my flat and the House though I suppose it might also be used occasionally to access events from the House. The second is for a computer and printer, with broadband access at my flat. I stress that the purpose of obtaining that is not in any way connected with work. I have no wish to carry on working when I get to my flat! Rather, I wish to have one to listen to and download music and games, to be able to email my family and friends, and similar domestic purposes.”

    Even the crooked Fee’s Office kicked this one into touch, no wonder he has been “campaigning” for transparency-but its not the first time Norma has been caught out:

    MP Criticised Over Spending

    http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/1907968.mp_criticised_over_spending/

    http://normanbakerwatch.blogspot.com/

    “Norman Baker, Liberal Democrat MP for Lewes, was criticised for sending out an expenses-funded constituency newsletter which featured an advert about work done by a fellow member of the same political party.The eight-page document is funded by Incidental Expense Provisions IEPs which, according to Parliamentary regulations, should not be used for party political or campaigning material.”

    Not bad for somebody who fucks off to India and Sweden at a drop of a hat, has one of the lowest attendance records in Parliment WHILE CLAIMING THE 6th HIGHEST “Incidental Expenses Provision” last year and the 56th this year.

    http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/norman_baker/lewes

    What a fucking hypocrite-he is like the boy who cries wolf in the vain hope that nobody catching his hand in the till. Shame that the lobby, and it appears “the blogs” are swooning over him.

    I sort of expect Tory Toff’s and Socalist Scumbags to be in your target Guido, but seeing that I have to live in Newhaven, which is a dump, I would of hoped that you Guido might of started digging into the Fib Dum’s-fat chance of that huh?

  80. 285
    Tony Blair says:

    I’m so pissed off I think I’ll go and read “Life Support” by Derek Draper.Speaking of which just had the labour candidate knocking at my door”Can I have your support?” he asked.
    “Jolly well buy one of your own” I replied.
    Hoons the lot of them

    • 345
      donkey's shlong says:

      “I’m so pissed off I think I’ll go and read “Life Support” by Derek Draper.”

      Why not go read it in the bath, Tony? Don’t forget to bring you razor blade, and remember – down the wrist, not across.

  81. 286
    Silvio Talli says:

    *
    HAI GUISE
    *
    THE EUROMONSTERSTATEUNION PARLIAMENT,
    IS VERY SOON TO MEET,
    TO RUBBER STAMP
    THEIR GRAND EUROPLAN,
    TO HAVE DGJHEGNETTyQKALLi MODDyFIDO
    NON~SLIP BANANA SQKHINZ,
    PUT OUT ON EVERY ENGLISH STREET

    WON’T THOSE KNOQKNEEZE LUV IT,
    OWT THERE ON THE LITTERY STREET,
    WITH ALL THOSE NON~SLIP EURO SQKINS,
    STIQKING TO THEIR PLATES OF MEAT

    • 292
      Concerned Therapissed says:

      I have a window available at 4:30 if you would care to pop along.

      • 320
        Silvio Talli says:

        *
        THE GOVERNOR OF THE BANGQKH OF INGLAND
        HAS TODAY ADVISED
        RIGOROUS RISK AVERSION THERAPY
        FOLLOWED BY
        MASSIVE AND IMMEDIATE KAPPyTAL INVESTMENT IN
        THE DOWNTURN

        ASTA

      • 350
        Adrian Prole says:

        Naw, he’d only lick it.

    • 306
      Silvio Talli says:

      AND DGJHENETICALLY MODIFIED NON~SLIP BANANA BEANZ,
      AS ALL POLLYTITIANS FOR WUNCE AGREE,
      PREVENT U FROM FARTING TOO MUTCH,
      ARFTER BREAKFAST LUNCH OR TEA

      AND GREEDY POLLYTITIANS
      THAT HAVE BEANS FOR DINNER TOO,
      SOMETIMES PASS THE KNIGHT TROTTING,
      FROM THE POT IN THE CHAMBER TO,
      THE MEMBERS*
      PRIVATE
      WATER
      LOO

      FOR THE PREVENTION OF FARTING IN PUBLIC PLACES,
      PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON POLLYTICIANS* FACES,
      AND MODDyFIDO BEANS KAN HELP A LOT,
      IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE,
      A
      RIGHT ONOROUSELY ONORORABBLE
      PARLIAMENTARY

      KLOT

  82. 297
    Cassius says:

    So tomorrow is couples day in the Telegraph?

    I hope they aren’t going to confine themselves to the married ones.

  83. 318
  84. 325
  85. 330
    Sic a parcel o'rogues says:

    Jings and help ma boab just how more inept can Gordon Brownovitch get?

    Stalin he certainly ain’t and CMOT Dibbler could give him a run when it comes to selling porkie pies.

    I know who he actually is – its Rincewind the Wizzard who can do no magic.

    Sadly, Cameron is no Vetinari. The Conservatives still have more in common with the Unseen University and that makes Cameron akin to Ridcully and Osbourne to the Bursar.

  86. 333
    Give me 650 lamp posts and a roll of piano wire and I can fix democracy says:

    I see the report on the four Labour peers and cash for anything is to be published tomorrow. If it’s bad news tune into Sky at the BBC won’t report it unless they are off the hook.

  87. 336
    Silvio Talli says:

    IN RECENT TIMES,
    MOSTLY VIA AUNTIE MAUD RAY~DIO,
    THE WURD ALREDDY
    HAS POPPED UP IN WOT THE PRESLYDENT OF
    THE REPUBLICK OF FRAANCE WOOD KALL
    A TYPIQKALLi ANGLO SAXHUN WAY

    FFUNNi INIT

    • 346
      Ken Dodd says:

      Actually, no.

    • 359
      Dr Feelgood says:

      Oh Christ! Gordon’s got hold of the computer again.

      Put it down Gordon, there’s a good PM.

      It’s time to go and see the Queen in a minute. Yes, ride in the vroom vroom.

      • 413
        Silvio Tanner says:

        HAI GUISE

        ON AUNTIE MAUD RA~DIO JUST NAO AT 9.37 GMT
        A DHOGSKRYPT WREEDER SAID THAT THE SPANISH PLAYER
        WON 8 TITLES SO FAR
        INCLUDING TWO ALREDDY THIS YEAR

        SUMBHODDEE MUST BE DGJHOLQKING

  88. 342
    Miss Lashley says:

    One of my clients, who admittedly was in some pain at the time, told me of a rough translation he’d read, of a report on some Chinese website.

    “After thirty-five years, the misappropriation of public funds by MPs has been revealed to the people, many of them with large bellies, small, mean houses and tattoos.

    “Fortunately most MPs have moats so will be able to keep them out.”

    Seems about right. Though he could have made it up.

  89. 354
    Give me 650 lamp posts and a roll of piano wire and I can fix democracy says:

    I see Toenails is writing more bollocks on his blog. He’s claiming that McSnot has agreed in principal a deal on this expenses review thing. This is bollocks. Nick Clegg said on Radio 5 today that he had not been approached over it.

    Toenails spinning again for McSnot.

  90. 360
    Give me 650 lamp posts and a roll of piano wire and I can fix democracy says:

    Anyone else hear that pathetic twat limpdick Opec trying to defend his expenses on Radio 5 this mornig with Andrew Pierce?

    What an utter hoon.

    Take a listen.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/programmes/morning.shtml

    Click Wednesday and go about 40 minutes in

  91. 362
    Anonymous says:

    Wanted

    New members to join new political party to replace old political party who got caught out!

    Must be secretive about expenses, thick as thieves, able to lie with a straight face, be good at getting dodgy passports, money laundering and generally be really good at bull shitting the public.

    This is a part time role with a name your own salary position.

    Required Knowledge/Skills and Experience:
    • Creative accounting
    • Public waffle speaking
    • Expense claiming
    • Good at denying everything
    • Expert skills in delegating everything
    • Donation collecting for personal gain and party use!
    • Multi tasking – required to cope with all those sleeping partnerships you will be offered for your cooperation on voting for unpopular white elephant building projects such as large billion pound round tents and unnecessary runways.

    To apply in the first instance please approach your local freemasons lodge prior to the party of your choice.

  92. 366
    David Davis says:

    Anone seen the receipt for my new portcullis!

    • 381
      Indipendant auditor says:

      Just drop down to Tesco like everyone else and grab a handful out of the waste bins you stupid tart.

  93. 376
    Give me 650 lamp posts and a roll of piano wire and I can fix democracy says:

    Toenails was pathetic on 6PM news as usual.

  94. 377
    Give me 650 lamp posts and a roll of piano wire and I can fix democracy says:

    Why doesn’t the BBC EVER point out that no Minister has the balls to be present when dead soldiers return from Afghanistan? The people have the ability to show respect, but the c**ts who send them there haven’t.

  95. 379
    Silvio Talli says:

    BY THE WAY

    WHEN IT KHUMZ TO WHOO SHUD B WRUNNING YORE HuntREE

    THEN THE QWEEN IS THE BEST MAN FOR THE DGJHYOB

    ASTA MAY 2010

    • 380
      Silvio Talli says:

      *
      E IS FOR EXPENSES
      M IS FOR MONEY
      C IS FOR CASH AND CREDIT = C SQUARED

      E = MC SQUARED

      AND THAT IS THE PARLIAMENTARY PAOWER EQUATION SIMPLIFIED

  96. 385
    Can you help? says:

    I clicked on the Telegraph site News page – saw a panel listing – amongst others – Levett – High Peak Labour MP – with a spend of say 168,000 with I think I recall a heading saying 300,000 pounds etc

    I can’t find it now – Is it there – or is it part of the next release?

  97. 391
    Silvio Talli says:

    *
    *
    *

    ALL*S WELL THAT ENDS WELL

    ALL*S WELL THAT ENDS WELL,
    PROVIDED THAT*S HAOW IT ALL ENDS

    AND U SAYING SORRY
    IS KNOT GOOD EGNUFF

    U HAVE 2 B WILLING AND ABLE
    TO
    MAKE
    AMENDS

    *
    *
    *

    • 394
      Silvio Talli says:

      SORRY

      I AM SORRY SED THE SINNER,
      DEEPLY CONTRITE,
      THINQKING THAT THE DEVIL WOOD SAY,
      THAT*S QWYTE AW RITE

      SORRY IS AN ADMISSION
      IS WOT THE DEVIL SAID

      AND YOUR ACCOUNT WITH WE
      IS
      DEEP
      IN
      THE
      WREDD

  98. 399
    Give me 650 lamp posts and a roll of piano wire and I can fix democracy says:

    Fuck me the Telegraph is reporting even more troughing. It’s getting worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  99. 402
    It all started in America you bastards!!!! says:

    Sky Paper review coming up

  100. 405
    Anonymous says:

    The fucking BBC is still banging on about the MPs all acting within the rules, but by classing perks as expenses they’ve broken the law. Their “rules” are irrelevant, because a perk is a perk no matter what your own rules say.
    If those perks didn’t have tax paid on them by the MPs then the MPs are guilty of tax fraud, plain and simple.
    I mean, if Gordon Brown gets over 6grand paid to his cleaner for a flat that has nothing to do with his job and which he owns, then it’s a fucking perk, and Gordon Brown is guilty of tax fraud by not paying tax on it.

    • 412
      Give me 650 lamp posts and a roll of piano wire and I can fix democracy says:

      I notice the BBC are playing down the latest Liebour sleaze big time.



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