He has been troughing for years and employing his children as well. The real pressure on him is coming from his local paper which has really got the measure of him. Expect to see more local papers bringing pressure to bear on troughing incumbent MPs. The next general election may see the biggest turfing out of incumbent MPs for generations.
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Lord Lamont told ITV News…
“I think the PM is just human and Ed Balls is a pretty irritating person”
That’ll help pay for me new hip.
Are all the MPs that voted and went to court to stop the truth coming out and cost us millions going to pay back the money. As my old dad use to say all politions are as bent as a 3 bob bit.
Shouldn’t someone be keeping a tally of the money being repaid. This needs checked as an MPs word is genearlly a lie. They may ‘commit’ or ‘promise’ to repay, but then actually not get around to it once they think the heat has died down.
Your dad was obviously a very wise man.
Paying it back is not enough. They must be dumped at the next election too.
I don’t agree, signed
Peter
Mark
Ben
Alan
Simon
Angela
Gordon
Nick…
et al.
Politions? Is that what Labour are? A polite word for arseholes? Works for me!
Can someone now compile a list of who in the House of Commons is NOT a crook? It’ll be easier than constantly adding to the list of those that are.
My dad used to say bent as a nine bob note (so maybe we were a bit richer than you).
Whats that in metric then with a bit of that ol’ inflation thrown in?
The Labour MP in Luton with the house in Southampton would struggle to spend £22,500 on dry rot. On the otherhand, £22,500 is a good sum to spend on a holiday home in Spain. Ask the builder to put “dry rot” treatment on the invoice and slip it past the accountants in HoP. Follow the money, this woman will be paying this back because she doesn’t want this investigated, if it is found to be for her holiday home she will be out of a job and should be prosecuted. Follow the money.
twice virtually wage national is.
The most interesting thing about these expenses is that it shows the Tories are the same old party regardless of the Spin Doctoring (far better spin than Blair especially as they have no real policies aside from cutting Capital Gains for the rich). What are their expenses claims? Swimming pools, tennis courts, several second homes – all the multi-millionaires there maxing out their claims – same old tories. These are the very people suggesting pay cuts in the public sector – for the ordinary reader out there that means doctors, nurses, teachers and council workers. How about capping the truly inflationary pay rises of private sector bosses?
I see Chris Huhne is featuring in the news as a “trougher”. Is that pronounced “Hoon?”
Who? I’ve never heard of him. He’s probably some mediocre berk like Phil “panty liner” Woolas.
He’s the minister for my patch and is deeply, deeply unimpressive. I’ve seen him speak and about the only thing he did right was not to fall off the platform – as the bureaucrat before him did…
My patch too, he’s an absolute no mark. But i still say it’ll take a tidal wave to unseat him at the GE. Corby is solid working class, anti Tory to the core. LD’s are nowhere. And the Tory PPC A Lister Chick Lit author Louise Bagshawe needs to do much better. No one round here as even heard of her (unless they read her books)
Just another World Class New Labour piggy working in the national help-yourself service
National Help Yourself Service.
LOL.
I like that.
Aren’t all of the current ‘Cabinet’ absolute no-marks? Most of them can’t even string an answer together which hasn’t been stuffed full of lies by No10′s poison spreaders let alone run a Minisdtry!
In the land of the blind the one eyed “Scottish Scunner” is king!
Phil Hope = No Hope.
The Penguin
Incidentally, what happened about Woolas taking legal action?
I still want to know why an Oldham (Lancs) MP was claiming against a TESCO receipt allegedly issued in Sussex and having a 10% staff discount applied.
All piss and wind! Daft c.unt thought he could brazen it out. As I posted elsewhere, claiming £210.31 for six bills (including his tampons/panty liners/dress etc) and having been reimbursed £210.31 against 6 bills exactly makes it rather difficult to establish a defence let alone a claim for misrepresentation!
You’ve got to feel soory for Woolas. He’s had a taste of the southern life: the delightful Miss Lumley and a Tesco store in Sussex.
Don’t forget you can bet your bottom dollar (or expenses claim) that these shits will have Tesco Clubcards to get even more back!
Look just leave me alone. I’ve got real work to do helping keep the Gurkhas out and letting everyone else in.
Were the Tesco bills definitely his? Sometimes, odd receipts from disparate sources end up in one’s wallet and it’s very easy to “accidently” let them fall into the “work expenses” file. Worth checking who the staff discount applies to etc. The trouble with this exes stuff is that it is mind-numbingly tedious at the detailed level, but the results are worth it because they tell you all you need to know about the character, or lack of it, in the individual concerned. Especially Mr Woolas, althoiugh I think his nodding-dog bit with Lumley actually gave the game away as well.
“Im in love (in love) with a girl on the Horsham Tesco Superstore check-out desk”
Apologies to the Freshies.
Who?
That should be Hoon surely?
Also what about BALLS…please say he and his obnoxious wife are not going to get away with it.
Where’s the beef?
BALLS BALLS BALLS
WE WANT BALLS
GIVE US THE BALLS!!
Any idea why? Not heard his name before and that’s a LOT of money (two Margaret Morons)
very interested in the reason why
Nice to be able to “write a cheque” for £13k without blinking.
How much dosh has she got squirreled away, I think we should be told…
any news on what uber-Hunt Sion Simon has been up to on the troughing?
No, but if you want a good laugh, take a look at this -
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/conference/2007/09/labour-majority-increase
Sion Simon reporting on the 2007 Labour Conference and a glorious victory in the forthcoming General Election.
That is a frightening responsibility. The young princes who now stride the parade ground with the confidence born of aristocratic schooling can never be afraid. They never have been. Like latter day Pushkins drilled in the elite academy of Brownian blitzkrieg, they are bursting with their sense of destiny. It’s not the Milibands, the Ballses or the Burnhams who are unconsciously nervous. This is the moment for which they were created. They are ready.
The writer is quite clearly certifiable.
The funny thing about the New Stateman’s blog is you have have to “register” to comment. That just sums up how out of touch these idiots are.
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its a liebour controlled hellhole and running on empty – only huge loan from liebour bankers keeps it afloat.
Total rubbish not worth the digits its webbed on.
bloody hell ! Thats way more than my wages. The thieving bastard to resign should resign.
This is probably out of order Guido, but I’ve just posted this on Nick Robinsons blog and await a response from him and the Beeb. I undestand if you don’t want to post but it might be interesting to hear their replies if any.
Cheers
“Nothing alters the fact that as professional journalists, especially those at the BBC and especially you Nick, you did nothing to report what was going on despite knowing what was happening all the time. You knew what McBride was up to and you knew the culture of the expense system, why didn’t you say anything? So in effect you went along with the gravy train. You must see what people are writing here about you and the BBC yet you still stay very quiet. Where is your response?
Blair and Campbell cleared out the BBC of invetigative reporting after the Iraq lying scandal and you carried on after Gilligan went sucking up to them for fear of not getting any of their stories that they fed complicite journalists. These stories got reported even though you knew the source and you wern’t even sure if they were true. You became a mouth piece for this government’s propaganda machine.
SO NICK AND THE BBC COME ON SHOW US YOU TRULY ARE IMPARTIAL. AFTER 12 YEARS OF LABOUR GOVERNMENT LAY OUT YOUR STALL. WHY DIDN’T YOU TELL US?
YOU KNOW WHAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE CHARGED WITH AN OFFENCE AND THEN STAY SILENT; IT COULD IMPLICATE YOUR GUILT. WE PAY YOUR SALARIES, DID YOU KNOW THAT? OR ARE YOU JUST AS ARROGANT AS YOUR MASTERS YOU SERVE.
I can understand why more and more people are asking why we should pay an old fashioned tv licence fee, relevant for the fifties but still continuing it in the very modern century we now live.
THE BBC HAS UNDERMINED OUR WAY OF LIFE AND BECOME A PROPAGANDA MACHINE FOR GOVERNMENT. THIS CANNOT CARRY ON. THERE WILL BE A PAY BACK TIME FOR THE BBC TOO AS WELL AS MPs. THAT TIME IS FAST APPROACHING AND IT CAN’T COME SOON ENOUGH! IN ANY CASE YOUR BIASED REPORTING HAS BEEN SUPERCEDED BY THE BLOGS SO WHY WASTE MONEY ON A REPORTING METHOD FROM THE PAST.”
Quite right Sir!!!
Disand this lunatic band of Beeb Marxist Communists as once that is achieved no-one on earth will ever report a bad word about the Conservatives again.
It really is THAT simple.
And rest assured the Public will be behind this move 100%.
Politicians are clearly more trusted than the BBC or any of their ridiculous “personalities” or shows.
Abolish the License Fee and Abolish the BBC. Easy.
No mess, no fuss, no problem.
EXCELLENT – I SENT A FULL COPY TO DAILY POLITICS
COPY OF ENTRY ON TODAYS GUIDO FAWKES’ BLOG
PLEASE CHALLENGE NICK TODAY – I KNOW YOU WILL
Good man… lets see if it stays on Robinson’s blog
I have written many similar things on that excuse for a blog and they inevitably get pulled, if and when they rarely get past the moderation stage.
BRAVO!
I listen to Radio 4, watch Newsnight and QT – but only because there are no comparables. As soon as some smart cookie invests in serious, credible competition nobody will tune in to their gratingly obvious biased ‘reports’.
Radio4 are developing a new political analysis programme, provisionally entitled ‘In Brown We Trust’. It is scheduled to go out in the autumn and will provide a balanced review of the week’s main political stories……chaired by Kevin Maguire and Polly Toynbee. Vistoria Derbyshire will head the phone-in part fo the show.
Raving Mad, I thought that show had been running for years!
Excellent.
The press are part of the ‘Political Class’.
Peter Oborne’s book The Political Class lays out exactly how the UK has been taken over by these people. I recommend you all read it.
I read Oborne’s ‘The Rise of the Political Class’ last year and it completely changed my attitude to politics and politicians. Can’t endorse it highly enough.
Agreed. The media does not control politics and politicians do not control the media, they are “independent” of each other, but they both work bloody closely with each other towards implementing the same agenda of increasing the control of the people by the Establishment and protecting the Establishment at all costs.
They are both puppets of the global elite banking families.
‘The Triumph of the Political Class’, Peter Oborne, Pocket Books
ISBN 978-1-41652-665-0
Read it now. Then ask yourself how he got it published – or why ‘they’ did not stop it’s publication.
My theory is that the political class despise the public, think us stupid and assume that we are not able to read. Read what they did to Elizabeth Filkin.
Westminster is, in my opinion, a criminal conspiracy aimed at ruling and controlling the plebs and using our money as they see fit. It is every bit as corrupt as the government that was overthrown by the French Revolution. That is what they are scared of.
No, I am not P Oborne and I have never met him. I am an angry Englishman who will never vote for a mainstream party until they fundamentally reform their electoral and Parliamentary habits to make them democratic.
Corruptfred, why post anonymous?
I’ve just created an account on the BBC website to post in support.
For anyone that would like to do similar you’ll find it on Nick Robinson’s main blog, post 250 09:10.
Waste of time. Auntie Beeb just removes any stuff that doesn’t conform to its peculiar world view. It would be comical were it not for the fact we are obliged (on pain of imprisonment) to pay for these liars and rogues to propagate their loony left wing drivel. A disgustingly iniquitous situation and totally unsupportable since they’ve ditched the founding concept of political neutrality.
In the mean time a Television without a tuner cannot receive television signals and can be used as a monitor for a DVD player and/or detuned Video recorder meaning no license fee is required.
This is very small beer indeed.
Nothing to see here. Gordon told me.
Nick Robinson, Gordon told you a pack of lies: The Boy Arrives Late, Lies About Where He’s Been.
Why can’t he open his mouth with lying or spinning?
And why do you have to faithfully repeat them?
Move along, move along
It’s there – give them some credit (not too much though!)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2009/05/from_unthinkabl.html – comment #250
The cnut is on Sky news now trying to justify what he’s doing – he says he’s talking to his wife as to how he raises the money to repay it.
What’s the bet he remortgages the place and claims it back on expenses??
Now thats a plan
I have complained about the same thing to the BBC. Of course, I know it’s largely pointless to complain to the BBC about any of their output – they never admit to being wrong. It had been the bloggers and (as you’ve said yourself Guido) Heather Brooke that broke the story. The DT did their bit of course.
What next….you have to ask yourself? Campaign to save Britain from Brown should be put into action. Brown wants a forensic audit of 646MPs for the last four years, how daft is that. It will take four years and cost a King’s ransom, Brown must go.
It really is pathetic. An investigation will cost millions and tell us nothing that’s not in the Telegraph. I can only assume McDoom is looking for a Tory to string up before the next election. We can be sure he is not calling for an investigation to string up Balls/Cooper.
Whatever the general public may think, MPs have an allowance of 20 odd thousand pounds. The lucky ones used it to cover their mortgage- as the public don’t seem too outraged by that – the unlucky ones used it to refurbish/maintain their homes. But at the end of the day most of them got roughly the same money.
The real scandal is the flipping around of 2nd homes to avoid CGT and the fact that they pocket all the profits from homes which we paid for.
You are quite right here – to be fair Clegg tried to make that point on Today this morning against a backdrop of the usual BBC class based posturing (as if any of them are working class!) about swimming pools etc.
So it would seem relatively easy to put together a list of flippers and liars, ie those who, like Moron, claimed for homes that were neither in London nor their constituency, or like McNulty claimed for houses they never lived in. Anyone who let out a property that had recently been renovated at public expense should be on the list, as well, and MPs who live in easy commuting distance but claim the full second home allowance. These people should be deselected forthwith, whatever party they are in.
That leaves the minor offenders, which is probably the biggest group, with their grubby few hundred pounds here and there, like Hogg and (for all his other appalling behaviour), Gorbals MIck, and then finally the small number of truly clean MPs such as Kelvin Hopkins and the Beast of Bolsover.
It’s just another soundbite of course prepared with PMQs in mind. Doesn’t mean a thing. Brown knows it we know it, Brown knows we know it. But he has to have sonething to say that to the very casual observer will sound tough and decisive.
It will take years and thats exactly why he is doing it. He can claim to be taking action, but by the time the results are out the scandal will have long since blown over.
Classic Brown mendacity.
Nah. Will take beyond the next of the next election
Whats really pathertic is how tory supports see cameron as a Saviour. He really has done F**K all. He himself has done very very well from torughing, and no doubt will continue (via other means) when ZANUCON usher into power.
Bloody wireless keyboards, sorry for errors.
Don’t talk shite. Or is that the fault of the keyboard as well?
He’s not talking shite. Camerons response was weak. Moat Cleaning?! For fucks sake – resignations were required. All we got was “sorry we were caught, here is your money back”. Not good enough by a long way. The Tories lost my vote.
Weak? maybe, but stillordering his MP’s to pay the money back or face the sack is a lot more than Brown has done.
I am still voting local independent though!
Oh, I see what you have done there. Merged part of the acronym for a discredited Zimbabwean political party with the abbreviation for the Conservatives.
How brilliantly original.
I spy Master Bates!
I think you’re right Peter.
Pugwash, I am no ‘tory at all costs’ activist, but I am without doubt an ‘anyone but New Labour’ activist.
I have very low expectations of the torys and I am not naive enough to believe all will be better, but this lot are totally incompetent and corrupt. Whenever I see or hear them my skin crawls and I want to destroy them. DC looks like the only alternative and I will take that willingly, despite huge doubts.
Well it doesn’t have to be for ever if you vote Tory once but let the hoons in ZaNulieBor back in and you won’t want a tomorrow!
If Cameron fails the country, then he is on notice that there is a very VERY large number of people (and that number is growing very quickly now) that will vote independent at the election after next. We all want to see labour destroyed. Many of them will hold their noses and vote conservative next time for one time only. IF the tories fail the country, then after that, The tories, labour and the Lib Dems will be history. We will spend the next 6 years spreading the simple message that the dissafected, pissed off, non-voters are the biggest and most powerful group in British politics now. IF these people want to sack almost ALL of the current sitting MP’s THEY CAN and they KNOW they can!!!
Anonymous – you took the thoughts from what’s left of my brain. I’ll give Dave a stab, too. At least he’s a human being, not some left over robot model from the old Westworld set, complete with loose jaw and knackered visage. Broon’s more frightening than anything Hollywood’s come up with in a hundred years. May he go, and go now.
The important thing to most people at the moment is to get this dangerously inept government out, and if DC can do that, thats fine.
Cameron, in my opinion has spent the vast majority of his life using the connections of his daddy as well as the wealth of his daddy in order to ingratiate himself into the tory party (the old guard originally), he has made full use of an old boys network in order to reassemble brunch club at fucking Eton on the Tory frontbench.
I would just ask, whether anyone here thinks that David Cameron has done anything outstanding in his entire life, anything other than using wads of his fucking trust fund to snort copious amounts of coke, is there GENUINELY anyone here who believes that he would be leader of anything?
What did he do in previous life? Was he a pioneer of industry? Was he anything other than a spoiled cokehead idiot? Since being made Tory leader, has he demonstrated anything other than a parrotlike mimickry of the same “methods” TB used 3 times over.
Having elected DC, do you expect that the hypocrisy, corruption and general irony of having a Etonian front bench and relevant uncomfortably close connections to finance + banking is going to give us anything other than what we had with New Labour?
At a time when the USA, bemoaned by europe for its stupidity and ignorance, has elected one of the most inspiring and naturally talented politicians for a considerable time, one who has succeeded against adversity in a country where to do that politically is nigh on impossible; we are, in the Uk, celebrating the fact that someone with very little natural aptitude, who has achieved a sum total of fuck-all in his entire life; will, as a result of the failure of parliament in general enter office with a mandate-to-nothing and a vast majority.
Great : * (
Fcuk off Campbell!
If he ever did take drugs, it doesn’t seem to have had any long term effects on his mental health. Drug abuse leads to symptoms like poor impulse control – sufferers will show uncontrolled spasms of anger – throwing their phones at people, for instance.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8045040.stm
This is Stephen Fry saying that we are tedious and bourgeois for being concerned about MP’s expenses and that we have all fiddled our expenses. It’s just like the Mccanns saying we’ve all left 3 children under 3 in a flat on the main road at night. No, Fry, I haven’t fiddled my expenses and I haven’t left my children alone.
This “in a very real sense we are all to blame” shite winds me up.
Fuck off Stephen Fry you are part of the Establishment, it has got fuck all to do with the expenses, it is the only way the people have found to hold the MP’s to account, or are you to thick to understand that?
Stephen Fry is a convicted fraudster he went wild with credit cards many years ago from his wiki entry At seventeen, after leaving Norfolk College of Arts and Technology, Fry absconded with a credit card stolen from a family friend, was arrested in Swindon, and as a result spent three months in Pucklechurch Prison for fraud.
A thief no less!
I remember him well.
They don’t like it Uppingham…
I saw that as well from the fat pompous NuLab apologist and now self-confessed fraudster.
Fry has done time for credit card fraud
So as part of the catharsis he wants to believe that everyone is the same. That we’re all fiddlers and crooks if we can get away with it.
I see what he’s saying in a way – BUT – its a storm right now that will go away.
( But its getting rather irritating all this “journalists are worse”).
I’m rather more concerned that “essential living expenses” show up what a strangely detatched world some MPs live in – in an interview last night one was asked “what is thrift to you” … After making a decision that cost £444 (if it was going to cost that much to miss a train, I’d catch the train, or organise something else). How can an electorate listen to him when he wants to cut services that are far more “essential” to them.
Stephen Fry too. I’m sure in his high altitude world “bourgeois” means something like “common” or “lower class”.
I think he means that we are the little people a la Leona Hemsley.
He is obviously far too grand to trouble himself with this, on a higher plane making fart jokes on QI – bloody hilariarse.
Heh heh! Didn’t you know that Fry is one of us Labour men (I use the word “men” loosely)? (at least until I cross over to the Tories) Well now you bloody well do – he’s saying what my research tells me is fully reflective of public opinion – Joe public wants us to have a bloody good good time while we are looking after the nation (or in Gordons case, the world!) they want us to get a few luxuries at their expense and shag a few “researchers” and “diary secretaries” on their behalf as it were. You see your ordinary Joe never gets the chance to scoff caviar pie and swill Dom P without paying for it, while he’s mounted on some piece of parliamentary totty, so they sort of live the life of Riley through us and a bloody good thing too I say!
‘John Prescott’ you are an imposter I think. Surely the real Prescott would have said ‘reflectivous of public opinion’.
I say ! Another scotch on the rocks, steward, and make that in a straight glass, there’s a good chap.
Is someone trying to imperforate me ??
Ah, I wondered which ‘we’ Stephen was referring to, in his “This is not what we’re fighting for.”
All becomes clear.
An outraged, retired solicitor (and zealot) tried to bring a private prosecution against Cilla and Gerry – everyone does it-McCann.
Maybe something similar is the only realistic hope of bringing the troughing tendency up before the beak.
Any loony solicitor out there up for it?
If you are within the cocoon of the BBC money is just there for the taking. It’s vulgar to worry about it. Leave that to the little people.
I have known Stephen since we both spent time residing at one of Her Majesty’s errmm “rehabilitation facilities”. He is a very very nice man.
Stephen Fry is correct. None of them have done enough ot deserve a 3 month prison sentence in Pucklechurch prison.
Stephen Fry says there are bigger things to worry about, like wars.
The point is, who sends our armed forces to war. The politicians. The very same politicians who are being shown up for being lying, theiving, duplicitous and underhand shits.
This is exactly why we are angry about what has been going on. Because if these people have no morals about how they conduct themselves, they clearly won’t give a toss about how they deal with anything else.
I like Stephen Fry normally. But I found his remarks obtuse on this subject.
And no, as others have said, we don’t all fiddle the system. Perhaps asking the views of a convicted fraudster on fraud wasn’t the best idea Rather like asking Archer his views on perjury.
Gerry McCann – another hoon. I have a feeling before what happened happened he was being groomed for some position in New Labour. Scottish. Brother living next door to Gordon’s brother. Love of the media and being in the limelight. Love of the sound of his own voice. Untrustworthy Government interference from the start in the events in portugal (over and above the norm – sending in your head of media monitoring to help em out with days…). Government protection and blanket media adulation from the usual suspects. It all fits. Total child neglecting brownite hoon.
I used to quite like Stephen Fry, but now I think he a YALH (Yet Another Luvvie Hoon)
Fry went in nick once for credit card fraud so
you cannot expect him to have a go at felow
crooks
Honour among thieves
Go directly to jail. Do not collect any more money from the taxpayer.
From your local newspaper link Guido.
“One reader, Marian, said: “Surely MPs can rent a furnished flat like everyone else? Why do we need to invest in second homes for them?”"
Says it all really.
You can rent a funished flat in London for about a grand a month. Add a bit for the bills and say 15k a year – 40% less than we currently pay for them.
Even better, let’s get them 3 or 4 bedroomed flats to share and we can pay even less. Agree with Clegg that MPs should not be allowed to buy property within the expenses system at all.
One of the worst offences this week, especially from the Labour side, is Stamp Duty. This tax has risen massively under the current government and is by far the biggest cost of moving house, yet they see fit to exempt themselves from it by claiming it back from us taxpayers.
…and it was brovver McRuin that upwhumped it remember.
Stuff the country as long as the McLiebour clan and shop stewards are looked after.
Imagine if you had to flatshare with Oaten… triple lock on your room door… what are those noises coming from next door? Sounds like lots of men’s voices… and what’s that sploshing sound?
If they are only allowed to rent, as night follows day, they will come up with a scam where they or a family member buy a flat in London which they will then rent out to another MP thus getting the money that way.
Just like with McDoom’s 50% tax people will find away of ensuring their standard of living does not drop.
There should be an office that handles finding rental properties for MPs – and hotels. MPs should never get the choice themselves.
If accommodation in London is needed, just put them all in Holloway or Wormwood Scrubs.
They should all be given free accomadation in London,
locked in the fucking tower
everyone is re-paying yet no one resigning or being fired
its CORRUPTION-FRAUD
guido–british public need you more than ever
if none of the second/third//forth home- allowances-fook knows anymore–MPs are sacked—british people will be seen as mugs
but is is NOT, I repeat not, credit card fraud which can lead to a 3 month sentence in Pucklechurch prison.
How ironic that the ‘Evening Telegraph’ is a Johnson Press publication
I say ironic, as north of the border the papers that Johnson Press own, ‘The Scotsman’ and the ‘Edinburgh Evening News’ are very pro Labour, to the extent that there are at least three journalist write up Labour breifings on a regular basis. It would indeed be a ‘Hell freezing over’ situation before these papers say anything as critical as the ‘Evening Telegraph’, but who knows ‘The Scotsman’ may get embaressed enough and start reflecting the anger of the people of Edinburgh and the rest of Scotland against Labour, but Im not holding my breath!
Interesting connection – Corby, Phil Pocket’s constituency, is a Jockland enclave in the East Midlands. They were transported en-masse when the steelworks were built there.
Like Welsh miners were transported to the Kent coalfields, do you mean?
Phil hasn’t got a hope…
Hope springs eternal
Now he’s paid some money back, is he hope less?
no cashless
Hope he’s cashless
Gordon’s plan.
MP’s to have a full audit.
Issue an allowance based on specific circumstances and according to need.
Means tested but available to all.
If MPs over claim they may have to repay some of the money.
A separate body set up to administer the whole system.
The PM is setting up Tax Credits for MPs!
He’s tax credit mad.
My cunning little plan would be to insist that each of them has a colostomy on the NHS, without anaesthetic on the morning of PMQs and expect them all to be in the House to hear the magnificence of our nation’s leaders by midday! No excuses.
WHy d’ya think everybody here calls him McMental?
Gordon is a one-trick pony – it’s a good trick; he’s conned his way into being PM, but it’s a dead pony now
I think all MP’s should publish their expenses in their local papers for their constituency
Would focus the electorates minds, and the local papers are always falling over themselves for content
I have asked my MP to do this
Good idea
You are assuming that the MP knows where his constituency is!
I presume he has ‘forgotten’ to add interest.
Too difficult for Gordon or Alastair as it has maths in it.
Accountancy is not their strongest suit
That is just fine then pay back the fiddles when caught out.
Methinks i should go and burgle a few houses and if caught by a copper, i will just get the check book out and pay for damages to property,and return stolen goods……everything is ok then
Your analogy is based on a false premise. There is no prospect whatsoever of you being caught by a copper after committing burglary.
Unless you are wearing too much bling!
Baroness Hogg, pull up the drawbridge, uh oh.
Baroness Udder go straight to prison do not pass go do not collect 200
How did Uddini get out of that ? Is she a relative ??
Read the Mirror, you know the paper Cameron is so frightened of he couldn’t summon an answer in his classic PR damage limitation presentation.
The paper seems to have a list of the stuff he has bought here
http://www.northantset.co.uk/news/Focus-on-the-growing-row.5256760.jp
and the fact that he hired members of his family too, maybe he can pay that back too ala Conway
I presume he hasn’t added any interest.
Aye! Ah’m th’ tru’ jobswa’ su’ eno’
Ah’m in it fa’ arl ah can ye und’stan’
An’ ah’m nae gonna have’ a skinny lassie try cos’ trubl’
Fer we sosh’lus toffs ar’ gonna stak’ tae’ ur prin’pls
An’ grabby url’ wae ca’
An’ nuthin’s ar’ fult ye und’stn’
[TRANSLATION :
It is true that I am nothing more than a fat rambling jobsworth – doing the wish of that bent bastard who reckons he’s Leader.
But no worry – I’ve done years for the one before.
And I always do what I’m told and grab what I can. Why not? I’m a socialist, I enjoy the trappings of power and privilege, and it keeps my pockets well lined.
AND I’M NOT GOING TO BE QUESTIONED BY SOME SKINNY GIRL THAT IS YOUNG ENOUGH TO BE MY DAUGHTER!!!
And just like the other crook who fancies himself as leader, nothing’s my fault.
Thanks for that translation.
I heard him speak but it made no sense to me.
Now I have read your transcript I am at least aware of the words, even though they still make no sense.
imagine RC Nesbitt’s voice in your head…works for me…
Don’t take my bloody name in vain you bastard poor person!
It’s at times like these that one starts to get the concept of what Hadrian’s Wall was all about.
~Tub of Lard is such a socialist that he took a seat in the House of Lords and also sits or sots in the Scottish Parliament where he stupidly believes he is also the Hammer of the Scottish Nationalists. The man is a fool, we want rid of him also.
They can’t even trough properly. Bunch of pipsqueaks.
O/t but what is the Telegraph holding back for Thursday and Friday? We haven’t seen anything yet about what that shit Blair troughed on.
Ooh, sir, sir; and Balls and Cooper. Pleeeeaaase!
So what ?
It’s been said all the Blair stuff was shredded ‘by mistake’. How convenient.
Blair’s will be all mortgage interest which according to Cameron and Clegg who do the same is whiter than white.
Wan ker troll – I’m sure you realise that borrowing money to buy a property is different from remortgaging a property you already own outright. If Cameron and Clegg did the latter, they are as guilty as Bliar, if not, they’re not.
Oh Those Sweaty balls.. Not long now..
How much more of this is there and how long has it been happening? There seems to be a pandemic of snout-in-trough disease rife in the Government and House of Lords. Few come out of this smelling of roses. George Galloway appears to have behaved and Kate Hoey seems to know right from wrong. Let’s have a list of who’s not at it – I’ll bet it’s a very short list.
Are breakdown or summary figures for expense claims (total for each House) published each year? I suspect the shredders have been working overtime for many years.
PS. Can I claim my rich tea biscuit against tax?
re. the rich tea conundrum
No, you can’t claim it against tax. But if you put it in a hot cup of tea it will dissolve, thereby nulifying any claim coz it doesn’t exist (cicular1763 pg 48/ 2007/expenseclaims on the hoof)
Some of it is public on the parliament website for MPs and the lords too. I’also interested to see which lazy bastared Lords never turn up…….quite a few. So much for democracy but I suppose they are cheaper to the tax payer that way.
bring on the swine flu
Isn’t there form on this?
I thought Conway got a world of shit for employing his son?
“Dad, what does MP stand for? “Well, son, it probably stands for monopoly”
Conway mainly suffered for being a pompous idiot. At a more practical level, his mistake was to employ his family, but not then get them to do anything for the money.
Nepotism. Fraud, graft, corruption. We British don’t do that sort of thing.
I guess that’s why they have been getting away with it.
Stephen Fry defending exspece fiddling?
This would be the same Stephen Fry that served time in prison for stealing the credit card of a friend of his father?
This would be the same Stephen Fry that abandoned a play and bankrupted the producer(a friend) ?
He would fit very well into iur current parliament
HOON
If loss of voter confidence – rather than imprisonment – is the only sanction to be employed against Westminster criminals, we should expect still more cases of fraud as crooked MPs put public cash aside for their own rainy days in years to come.
One law for all!
Is a BBC newsreader really worth more than an MP?
Compare an MPs’ £60,000 or so, plus the maximum allowable for “second homes” and other way from home costs with the £90,000 or so, (quoted on air) plus the BBC expenses (in all their guises) for staying away from home.
BBC newsreaders are not expected to research their own stories or handle a case load of several thousand readers so MP’s office and staff costs should be left to one side.
More-over the BBC pension scheme is almost as generous at that for MPs.
This story may be great fun and there is little doubt about the need for serious reform with regard to MPs remuneration and expenses – but it is surely well OTT and now mainly serves to engorge the readership of Guido and Telegraph, increase electoral support for UKIP and inflate the potential political influence of the Barclay Brothers compared to Rupert Murdoch.
ALL Al-Jabeeba types are overpaid and are no better than MP’s. Perhaps that’s why they support them so much!
al-Jazeera is much more objective than the Beeb. Try the website.
It depends whether female presenters in particular are expected to pay for their wardrobe out of salary or out of expenses. Of course, one way to cut that would be to have them wear uniform, like airline cabin staff.
They can and do blag freebies and discounts. Ask any shop assistant (not in primark, obviously).
Sit around shouting ‘Hear’ ‘Hear’ when the Gimp walks into the chamber.
Nod sympathetically when one of the unwashed manages to corner me and do F all about theirproblem.
Walk through whichever lobby I’m ordered to on pain of losing my livelihood.
I’ll do it for 50K.
Don’t forget having to sit through Committees, and then going home at weekends to open fetes and eat/drink with party faithful. There’s also a lot of ‘sponsorbility, innit?
Move along there, nothing to see here
The BBC presenter will have to be good at their job. There is no such requirement for an MP.
The BBC presenter could be sacked on the spot for serious misdemeanours. There is no such punishment for an MP.
MPs have very generous pensions, supreme job security, little by way of genuine responsibility and enormous benefits from access, travel and the like. There are a hell of a lot of perks provided at our expense. There is a hell of a lot they can legitimately claim on expenses. Many of them chose to put things through the tax free system. Many of them chose to stuff income through it despite it clearly being against the actual rules in the Green Book. Many of them chose not to speak out against Michael Martin and his thuggish behaviour. Some of the chose to vote to cover it up in the face of substantial public and legal opinions otherwise.
Not to mention that the fact of being an MP gets them lots of consultancy work and seats on boards.
And bribes.
Of course not.
But as they are funded by yet another tax – the license fee – they have the same approach as the MPs – entitlement you see its what we liebour shop stewards do,
BBC announcers don’t usually originate the lies of New Labour, they simply broadcast them uncritically.
Two cheeks of the same arse.
Slash MPs expenses and abolish the BBC tax / state funded TV altogether.
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Yum yum taxpayers hard earned cash.
But did I say that I do not want to be Prime Minister?
She might want to be Composite Minister though.
Compost minister, surely ?
Perhaps First Lady of the Treasury would suit me fine.
First Person of the Tree usury please
‘First’ sounds elitist, you oppressors.
and the DUPs Robinson MPs. Any word yet?
Thank fuck no ones going to ask Paisley for a refund!
62 inch televisions will not watch themselves I will have you know.
More like Ordure – ordure!! Buy some now and spread it on your lawn!!!!
Isn’t it amazing that these politicos can just reach into their wallets/purses and cut a cheque for the many thousands of pounds they nicked off us hard-working families – perhaps they had it on deposit all the time just in case – makes you wonder doesn’t it?
How many Joes out in the real world could do that eh?
Can anyone explain Paxo’s remark on Newsnight last night concerning Chris Huhne’s trouser press – “It’s obvious he doesn’t use it” ??
Dunno, but it’s difficult to see what use a trouser press would be when their trousers are bulging with cash looted from the public purse.
Trouser presses do not reach as high as the pockets – unless it’s for a pair of the Ginger Chipmunk’s slacks, bought no VAT in the kiddy department.
Laundering it.
Gerald Kaufmann has been on the phone to tell me that you can’t get arse sizes big enough in kiddy clothes to fit the Ginger Chipmunk, so I apologise for my post!
Perhaps he sold it on to Paxo.
Carswell’s motion:
http://www.talkcarswell.com/show.aspx?id=705
First time for over 300 years, cross party support/signatories. Shouldn’t be a surprise given that the Mail has a poll of MPs with 80% saying Martin should go now, while the Speaker tries to hang on to trough a £100,000 golden bowler
You want fries with that?
Electrify him.
Neeps and Tatties, please; a side order of fried marsbars, and to wash it all down, a bottle of buckie
That’s a lot of people saying that they “are going to” pay back the money. It’s nice that they’ve promised to pay it back, but we all know just how much a politician’s promise is worth.
Guido, please tell us you’ll be keeping close tabs on who actually does pay back the money. Waving cheques around is easy. Let’s see if they bounce first.
Is it true that Balls, Cooper and the Speaker have injunctions on the Telegraph preventing them reporting their expenses?
if that’s the case we’ll buy them and publish them on the interweb
On what possible grounds could this trio obtain the famous, supposed injunction?
If true, what is it that is unique to them that entitles them to secrecy, but does not apply to the regiment of exposed troughers?
The reputed stunt will, in any case, backfire horribly. The whole story will, inevitably, be revealed, and they will then be subjected to even more prolonged, public odium. The spotlight will fall specifically on them, rather than being subsumed amongst generalised troughing. (Hoon, Darling, Beckett et al).
These socialist jokers, like uberclown Brown, know how to fiddle but they are not exactly master strategists. Little wonder that the country has been ruined by them.
Any news on revalations about Balls and his pixie wife Guido?
BTW, the ‘Resign’ petition is still only on 57,500 – c’mon folks.
I think No 10 have replaced the server with a ZX80 they got from Clive Sinclair
“Call a general election” petition poised to enter the top 50 shortly.
I won’t rest easy until it reaches #2
Any idea why Sinn Fein MPs are claiming expenses when they dont even sit in the Commons?
Nice one methinks
Because they can get away with it?
to use to buy their own fertiliser, unlike the tories
Any news on Pigsty Purnell? Recall the recent story in the Mail where they had spoken to his aggrieved ex-landlord who was still having to steam urine stains out of the Axminster. There’s something about his postmodern sideburns that makes me want to retch.
He has a very punchable face too
Don’t forget the kickable arse
I knew this man. He and the staff in his constituency office, one of whom was once Leader of East Northants Council, shamelessly manipulated, smeared and intimidated at the local level as they tried to grab and hold onto power. It does not surprise me that he has leached so much money from the system. I’m glad the local press has harrassed him into giving it and I hope the electorate will give him his marching orders at the next General Election.
Sorry didn’t check properly – meant to say – ‘giving it back’
Guidoaf Orcs must be livid as Librarians get £20,967 p.a., plus all the books you can read.
Books? Books?
Books is old – innit?
Unlike MPs – plus all the books you can cook.
That would be all the books they can read. Not you can read.
Your standard of English is lacking, MB.
How much do ZNL pay you as they are clearly not getting bangs for their bucks?
Does anyone else agree that it was a good dig at GuidOaf to have Lord Foulkes wheeled out to the studios?
It showed admirably how Foulkes has dug his own trough
“I have decided to pay back this money in a vain attempt to have a dutch auction with the voters to reach a bargain about the least cost amount to rescue my place on the gravy train after the next election..trust me, if paying this didn’t give me a much better chance of not being booted out, I wouldn’t be doing it, and if I could pay less and still butter up the voters, don’t you think I would try it ?”
Excellent translation
I see that hypocrit millionaire Clegg maxed out his expenses.
Typical Lib Dem.
85% want Speaker to be silenced, Brown apes Cameron, Michael White wakes up! The That’s News Morning update cracks on with it!
Paying £41,000 back? Bloody hell. That’s a lot. How much more has he trousered?
£41,000 is roughly the GDP of the entire Corby constituency.
Whatever Corby did, it did not deserve him.
£41 000 is roughly twice the average wage. We should not be concerning ourselves with such bourgeois matters.
While we wait for more spectacular revelations (arn’t you just loving it!) would any one like to speculate about what you think is going on in Brown’s bunker or the Speakers Palace, NOW?
Do you know I haven’t had so much fun since I wrote in chalk on the playground at school that Mrs Huggett should go and F*****! I was 8 at the time, what a little horrow I was.
not too good at spelling either
well im only 9 now
And did she? Huggett I mean.
Now you now that would have been illegal, no sex with miners or should that be minors
By offering to pay it back he has admitted fraud
jail the Hunt
Is Tony Blair to be wheeled out for the grand finale?
He has to be one of the biggest crookes ever to have been in Parliament.
We can of course keep them all out of Europe by voting for the only party not involved in any scandal. Libertas.eu
If you believe that Europe should have democracy, accountability and transparency they are the only logical choice.
check them out at http://www.libertas.eu
Blair’s receipts and claims were “accidentally” destroyed some time ago
As were those of ‘Speaker’ Martin, apparently.
Odd that!
I wnoder if that was before or after they were scanned by the Fees Office.
What happens when an HMRC investigation reveals missing documentation?
They just give up and go home, I suppose.
In matters of taxation, onus of proof is on taxpayer, not HMRC. Missing docs means HMRC can take them to the cleaners.
he’s not paying back a penny.
The slimy little shit’s on Sky right now trying to exonerate himself (very unconvincingly, too, it has to be said).
hes a lying mendacious fuckwit. he is trying to tell us its about his integrity and he doesn’t like people thinking badly of him.
yes it about your integrity is you lying fucking c u n t – you have none, you are a thief and should be in the stocks suffering public humiliation.
I hope he gets hit by a bus on the way out of the tv studio.
I’ve left my spectacles upstairs, but he actually appears to have a brown nose from where I’m squinting.
I see the Mirror buffoon Mcdirt is blaming Maggie The man (I use the word advisedly) is a complete tosser
There is a reason he’s called “toilets”. A deeply unsavoury individual.
Never have seen any light thrown on that reference. Does he have something of the water closet about him?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/columnists/maguire/2009/05/13/expenses-row-house-of-cards-has-collapsed-now-for-a-new-deal-115875-21354914/
Interesting,
Wade your way past the bluster, false indignation and digs at everyone but the Labour Party and even Kevin realises the game is up
Did he get rejected for McBride’s old job?
Does calling for resignations now mean he’s looking for an MP’s job?
Hey diddle diddle
MPs on the fiddle
and they’re nicking your money and mine!
They don’t give a stuff,
Ain’t getting enough
Of that susidised food and fine wine!
Not to mention the kitchen sinks, moats and chandeliers. But I agree it would bugger up the meter of your fine verse.
Bugger! Missed the “b” in subsidised!
Hope saying money will be difficult to find but his integrity means more to him than anything and that he doesn’t want Corby tainted by “this nonsense”. Murnagahn says his list is like generation game and contemptuous to even claim items. hope saying “claimed in accordance with rules and handing back as here to serve constituents. At time rules were to buy things to make it habitable and that’s what i did. View of my integrity is difficult to bear and that’s why I am paying it back to rebuild trust with my constituents. I can’t carry on with people thinking that of me, perception of me being without integrity” He seems a bit quavery and denies it’s about votes. Wouldn’t answer question about where money will come from to repay. Hasn’t spoken to No.10 about it except senior colleagues.
i.e. I was able to get away with it, now I can’t.
‘Corby’ – don’t they make trouser presses?
The fact that he is defending only a 1517 majority in his Corby constituency has absolutely NOTHING at all to do with Phil Hope’s decision of course !!
… manufacure troughing MPs too.
Almost worth the money just watching him squirm.
Morning slags,
I’m so knackered I’ve posted bugger all so don’t bother coming to look unless you missed last nights plumbing job.
Look forward to seeing you all at PMQ’s here and my gaff.
Well done Guido, you deserve knighting for this even if you are a paddy.
The Daily Politics
Well Geldedoff got knighted, why not Guido? Betty wouldn’t let the blade slip, would she?
Quite right Mr Grimes. If that hoon Geldoff can have one Betty can give Guido a shave.
How about a Brazilian?
How about a political joke at the expense of our elected representatives.
Find out the punchline here, http://www.plenty2say.com
Surely then they can arrest MPs??
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Officers arrested over expenses
‘Three Metropolitan Police officers have been arrested over claims of inflating expenses while investigating the 7 July bombings, Scotland Yard has said.
The officers were arrested on Tuesday in connection with offences including misconduct in a public office, conspiracy to defraud and theft.’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8047419.stm
Ah ha sauce for Scotland Yard is not goose for the gandar (or something)
One day a florist goes to a barber for a haircut. After the cut he asked about his bill and the barber replies, ‘I cannot accept money from you. I’m doing community service this week.’ The florist was pleased and left the shop.
When the barber goes to open his shop the next morning there is a ‘thank you’ card and a dozen roses waiting for him at his door..
Later, a policeman comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill, the barber again replies, ‘I cannot accept money from you. I’m doing community service this week.’ The policeman is happy and leaves the shop.
The next morning when the barber goes to open up there is a ‘thank you’ card and a dozen donuts waiting for him at his door.
Later that day, a college professor comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill, the barber again replies, ‘I cannot accept money from you. I’m doing community service this week.’ The professor is very happy and leaves the shop. The next morning when the barber opens his shop, there is a ‘thank you’ card and a dozen different books, such as ‘How to Improve Your Business’ and ‘Becoming More Successful.’
Then, a Member of Parliament comes in for a haircut , and when he goes to pay his bill the barber again replies, ‘I cannot accept money from you. I’m doing community service this week.’ The Member of Parliament is very happy and leaves the shop.
The next morning when the barber goes to open up, there are a dozen Members of Parliament lined up waiting for a free haircut.
Bravo!
Isn’t Stephen Fry a convicted or admitted thief how apt then that he should think MP’s nicking our money is OK
Also I nominate Andrew Gilligan to replace Nick (boiled in the bag) Robinson
Fry did jail time for fraud
No wonder the Hunt is a labour supporter
Probably enjoyed the ‘association’ side of jail, too.
The mistake Fry has made is believing we should not be concentrating on these thefts and should be looking at what MPs are actually doing, or not as is usually the case. In the real world BOTH matter to the public.
What have the Lib Dems done with Charles Kennedy?
X marks the spot.
Politicshome poll on Speaker Martin:
http://page.politicshome.com/uk/speaker_must_go.html
85% of MPs on their panel say “in the name of God, go!”
I can’t wait for the Telegraph to reveal what Richard Smarmy-Fucker Ottaway has been drawing down over the years. He has always been a dedicated pursuer of the main chance in my experience, with the shortest of arms and the longest of pockets, and I am sure that he is right in there at the contemptible fluffy-cushion, dog-food and ride-on mower end of the trough. The pity is that, being an invisible backbencher, he may not be worthy of the Telegraph’s forensic attention.
I’m hard pressed to see which the arrogant and puffed-up little twerp would prefer. Would it be better to be ‘important’ enough to be in the firing-line, or so invisible that his excesses are not worthy of a mention because nobody would recognise him?
He’s never knowingly bought a round.
Financial misconduct = Conservatives
Corruption = Labour
And the Lib Dems
Horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure, horse manure
Accountancy is not my strongest suit
Everyone I kn ow is saying that Ed Balls has issued an injunction against the Telegraph and has got away with the biggest of all the expenses fiddles.
Everyone I know says that George Osborne is a nutter.
Watch him at PMQ catching flies.
Seriously, watch him, he has cracked.
Lost his £500,000 p.a. from Rothschild, he’s not the big wheel any more.
These suckers have to have a patron, he lost his and now he’s lost his marbles too. Urgh!
Why should he get away with an injunction when none of the other’s have?
I don’t see it. I feel his time is yet to come.
I’ve just finished watching ‘Hopeless’ on SkyNews being filleted by Dermot Murnaghan. ‘Hopeless’ bought tears to my eyes with his simpering ‘my integrity & what people think of me’ drivel. Yep, ‘Hopeless’ ‘cares’ what people think of him- when he is found out helping hisself to £14,000 quid of OUR F’N MONEY. If this eedjit thinks he is so hard done by on appx £64,000 per annum what about us on £15,000 per annum?! I don’t claim f’k all- and if i can’t pay for it- i don’t get. Labour MP takes the piss out of ‘hard working individuals’ and ‘hard working families’: his campaign slogan for re-election perhaps…
Anyone see Lembit Opik being interviewed on BBC news 24? What an odious, arrogant man. ‘Don’t speak to me like that’ ‘You better be careful what you say to someone like me’
“Three Metropolitan Police officers have been arrested over claims of inflating expenses while investigating the 7 July bombings, Scotland Yard has said.”
Why just these three coppers. Lots of additional arrests at PMQT would appear to be in order (just dreaming out loud).
I have just escaped prosecution by HMR&C for late payment of corporation tax on a Directors Loan Account (DLA) – by lending them £25,000 for a year and being charged £5,000 in court costs, fines and interest to boot.
I paid off the DLA last June, however HMR&C are allowed to claim the tax in the current financial year until my year end when they ‘notice’ it’s been paid off. They are then entitled to hang on to my £25,000 until January 2010. I never get the £5,000 in penalties back.
I am a significant tax contributing member of the public and (small) employer.
I have two points, the first point is that the government is stooping to blatant ravishment of small businesses right in the middle of a recession.
The second is while they are kicking the stuffing out of anyone who is stupid enough to work, are they going to impose punitive measures on those who *really* transgress?
Yours, pigged off…
Apologies if this has already been pointed out but this story represents a fantastic opportunity for local papers.
Their circulations have been falling for years – who cares if Mrs Jones won the Jam competition in Middle Wallup!
Here’s something they can really get their teeth into, something which fits with their remit perfectly.
Good stuff for the CV!
I Do!!!
Come on the Oldham Chron. Really get stuck into Woollas (If his tampon isn’t blocking the way in)
Does anyone know if Elizabeth Filkin (Former Standards Commissioner who was forced out by MPs) has made any comment on these expenses?
It is now clear that the LbDems have been very liberal in helping themselves to our money
Oh well, I suppose that it’s time for me to act again – last time I had to do something was when Sodom and Gomorrah needed a little attention, so brace yourselves MP’s because it’s time for Westminster to feel the heat of my wrath.
Is there a quick and easy way to send a batch email to ALL MPs?
If there were it would be blocked as spam by their server.
Try theyworkforyou – copy and paste.
yeah, that’s what I’m currently doing… its going to take time
try their distribution list : thievingHunts@msn.com
I actually said thievingcnuts@msn.com
See how good the readers’ posts to the Evening Telegraph are, compared with some of the adolescent green ink posted here.
Readers’ posts? How do you know they’re not penned by the hacks?
Anyways, the mainstream media is palid and grey. This blog’s got spice!
These “fill your boots” spongers have blamed The System but surely what is wrong with our Democratic System is that we, as voters and tax payers, are helpless to control or remove these people. Whether they are Members of Parliament, Councilors, or any other civil servant there is just no recourse for us to do anything other than complain. And if we do that too loudly or often we can now be arrested, subjected to an ASBO or even ridiculed to death (Dr Kelly).
In this day of high speed communications, blogs, facebook etc there is no place for these corrupt officials to hide, other than behind bare faced lies and a hard face and we have seen plenty of that this last few weeks (Ms Smith). This will not do, it can not be the way forward and we must push for change. This is not Democracy this is a farce, it is a dictatorship that is simply re-arranged every 4 or 5 years.
Who fiddled what for another wedge of cash is important and we have every right to complain bitterly but in the long run there has to be a dramatic change in our system of government at every level. No taxation without representation is critically important but at present it is just a joke. On top of that there must be no pay, let alone expenses, without accountability and by that I mean punishment for wrong doers. There must be a way in a proper democratic system that if the majority of voters and taxpayers say so we should be able to send miscreants, cheats and the incompetent on their way forthwith (Brown & co).
Surely this is what we should be discussing Guido? It’s great to pick out a few nasty weeds now and then but it’s not the long term solution this country’s needs.
I agree. JuryTeam looks like a golden opportunity to fill the house with independently minded members who can bring about the change we need.
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Brown has a lot of spinning plates to look after.
Go to Guido’s seen elsewhere, “Alarming Trends Surrounding Quantitative Easing – Fraser Nelson”
Government borrowing has had to increase by a factor of 5 from last year to this year, and it would appear that the only purchaser may be the Bank of England.
What is missing from the information on the Debt Management Office website is details of the buyers at the Gilt Auctions.
If the only buyers are Bank of England and Royal Bank of Scotland, this little local difficulty over MP’s expenses will actually be a welcome diversion for Brown and Darling.
This mother makes Hoggmoat and Blearflip look like trappist bloody monks.
I’d like to pink him up rotten.
I claim the max ‘additional costs allowance’ on a mega mortgage becasue I’m rich, a minor aristocrat and special.
I’m sorry but the truth is the hoy polloy get on my nerves.
The BBC are the media wing of the New Labour project. They almost created it. When Blair came on the scene, every news broadcast and political programme was dominated with faults of the tories. The BBC went ito overdrive to get rid of them. Since when it is the place for a national institution to set about to get rid of a government.
Archer got caught with his knickers down, I accept he’s not the most savoury character, and the tories were stupid to continue to have anything to do with him, but his story ran for months. Word by Word. He ended up in Prison, he never cost me a penny, not one fucking penny. Aitken deserved to go to prison, but he DID go to prison.
The reason, the BBC get billions, not millions, billions. The real reason, the money.
The BBC is corrupt, as an impartial commentor, it is corrupt, and it beams into every household, everyday. It has browkn it’s ethos for money.
If I were Cameron, I would trim the nails of the BBC, and I would use their costs as the way in. That’s how the FoI have got inside parliament, thru their costs.
Guido and his mates must surely be aware that the BBC will not stand up to scrutiny, and now is the time. No politician has the moral standing to defend them. They will be out on their own.
We could start by asking them why they always have “team bonding” exercises, held in Scotland, that always coincide with the Salmon running Tweed.
Follow the money.
How true. The BBC have now appointed a Muslim as Head of Religious Broadcasting. No doubt an 8 year girl divorcing their 50 years old husband (at the third attempt) will not be an issue as it is an acceptable part of Islam (religion). And you lot thought the BBC’s political bias was frightening.
Gordon has asked for “Independent Scrutiny” of MP’s expenses. We’ve got news for you: Independent Scrutiny: We’re already doing it.
We’ve got all the info. we need, thanks to the Telegraph: we can make up our own minds now.
We’ll take it from here, Gordon.
First you would need a mind, and you have not been blessed with the full set.
Second, the Telegraph hasn’t revealed everything, so you are not in a position to judge.
Which proves you have a deficient mind.
Froth away, froth away.
MB, They say that what you do will make you go blind but you should remember that there’s none so blind as those who don’t want to see.
It’s you isn’t it Johnnie, you cant fool a committed Prezza watcher like me Johnnie. Trust your interlect, thinking you could get a away with it. Blogging like a true radical wind up.
Johnnie, it was easy, I’ll give you a clue that even you can understand. Your the only human in the whole universe thick enough to still believe in new labour.
After all these years, I finally get to talk to you. It’s tough here Johnnie, living down with the proles, the Britain you helped create. It’s going to be interesting seeing how you and your mp mates cope with it
Cock.
On the theyworkforyou.com website my Labour MP has the following entries under the Additional Cost Allowance row:
07/08 – 23.083 – Joint 1st
06/07 – 23,110 – Joint 1st
05/06 – 21,347
04/05 – 20902 – Joint 1st
03/04 – 20333 – Joint 3rd
Is this a record?
Additional Costs Allowance
£19,626 (406th)
£20,563 (368th)
£21,359
£20,902 (joint 1st)
£20,328 (joint 169th)
£19,722 (joint 1st)
£18,009 (joint 2nd)
£140,509 Total peanuts really
Did anyone hear Mrs Austin Mitchell on Today- ‘Austin likes to employ people in our constituency office’ – WRONG, WRONG WRONG – the taxpayer employs people in Austin’s office so that he can feel like Lord Bleeding Bountiful. Complete subliminal mixing of tax revenues with the contents of Austin’s wallet.
The other thing those dosey wives got wrong was thinking their place was living with their husbands in London. WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.
Until MPs can get it through their thick skins that they AND their families MUST LIVE in their constituencies and have a place in London to STAY (not live) there will never ever be any change.
Perhaps the working week in Westminster may have to be shortened so they can LIVE more in their constituencies. That would be easy enough by increasing the number of weeks parliament sits.
Sod that sunshine.
and making use of modern technology.
what’s wrong with teleconferenced debates and instant messaging and video conferencing, cheaper than their silk cushions.
How many MP’s do we really need?
What should they actually do?
What is is really worth?
What check is there on the value of their contributions to better government?
If most of them dropped dead it would be an improvement.
Yep and she went all weepy about reputation and what the neighbours were saying over the fence.
Too late little lady. Reputational damage is done for 630 people and why?
Because instead of transparency they allowed the shop steward in charge (a dreadful panelbashing tribalist) to hire the world’s most expensive lawyers to defend the indefensible … and then lost. Will MacMartin pay that legal bill? Will he hell.
Sleep with dogs , enjoy their fleas.
57501…
ZX80 now replaced with an abacus
Somebody trousered the beads
Is there any truth that Cooper-Balls Plc and Gormless Mick have injunctions preventing the DT publishing their expenses?
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His majority at the last election was 1,500 – I wonder if that played a part in his decision to repay?
I think his chances of holding his seat were small before, now I suspect that they are zero.
Funnily enough, we’re still waiting for Prezza’s offer to cough up for his two toilet seats and mock Tudor beams.
Perhaps he’s too busy counting the £200,000 he trousered from his book, the £40,000 he got paid for that BBC 2 programme on class (lol) and the £70,000 received for speaking engagements in the last 12 months, not forgetting his £62,000 MPs salary.
He earned all that extra dosh, didn’t he? Wouldn’t we rather have him harmlessly filling our our wide-screen tellies than causing mischief as an MP?
Not to mention the swathes of council properties in Hull his son bought at full and fair market value.
Its working: The biggest yet result for The Pay It Back Campaign.
Nothing to do with the fact that he’s only got a 1,517 majority, surely?
Was Nazi genocide condoned on the basis that it was within the rules made by the Nazi state that perpetrated said atrocity??? NO.
When a set of people can make their own rules about how much money to take from the taxpayer, simply adhering to whatever these rules happen to be is not an automatic defence, morally at any rate.
Merely returning a proportion of second home allowances is grossly inadequate. ALL second home allowances, plus punitive interest, should be paid back to the taxpayer, except to whatever extent it can be conclusively demonstrated that these allowances were used to RENT property from non relatives, non friends and non business associates. IN FUTURE, where second properties are necessary, they should be state owned, and occupancy be transferred from one MP to the next.
To all cheats: Be sure your sins will find you out.
To all hypocrites who claim to be “purer than pure”: Be sure your sins will find you out.
REPENT AND DO PENANCE (i.e. at the very least pay back your ill gotten gains plus punitive interest).
Otherwise, on the last day, the Lord will cast you into the fiery pit, where there is a great weeping, and wailing and knashing of teeth.
Also abolish the BBC tax.
You couldn’t make this shit up …
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23690853-details/Twitter+czar+will+cost+taxpayer+160%2C000/article.do
After the Mc Poison and Draper affair!!!!!
I spend all day on Twitter, I’ll do it for half!
When I saw the heading I thought it read “Phil ‘hopes’ to repay £41,709″ Or could it be that it should read “Phil Hope hopes to repay £41,709″
Sleeze but no wrong doing?
Use your protest vote wisely!
With the forthcoming local and European elections due, this should give us the chance to show our dissatisfaction of how things are going in the form of a protest vote, and offer a stark warning to those participating in the General Election in about a year’s time.
The only thing to beware is that our efforts could allow parties in with a less then ethical agenda
to get a foothold such as those who would only represent so many of our population not all, and whilst that could be said of Harriet Harman, it should be made clear that in the 21st century the question of immigration should be considered from the demographic and economic view point rather then descending into the racist past of the National Front!
Perhaps Nigal Farage will emerge as our Churchillian leader of new hope (As Obama is in the US) who will also stop the gravey train chugging through the channel tunnel!
Let us move Guy Fawke’s day to June 04.
Instead of Guido on the bonfire we could have an effigy of GB.
Mine will be a barrel of lard covered in snot.
Brown’s premiership is turning just as I predicted in my book “Boom and Bust” written before he became PM. Contact me on nigel_bowker_917@hotmail.com for a free electronic copy.
Out of interest, how many MPs formed property companies once they got elected.
That might prove interesting and show their flipping and upsizing activities in a clearer light.
I hope it doesn’t end in criminal prosections and convictions – I mean, the slammers are full to bursting now. How the bloody hell can HMP accommodate them all?