Harman’s Response to Cameron’s Plan is Pathetic
After Dave wowed even Brown nosers like Sir Michael White and Steve Richards with his crackdown on Tory grandees and shadow cabinet troughers, Harman wrote to the chairman of the Member’s Allowance Committee proposing that he should set out a procedure whereby MPs might perhaps be asked nicely to repay claims that were outside the rules. Possibly. Not exactly a decisive response from the government.
The Member’s Allowance Committee is chaired by the Labour MP Don Touhig. It was he who led the Labour backbench revolt last July that threw out proposals for a full external audit of MPs’ expenses and an end to the “John Lewis list”. Does that fill you full of confidence?
Harman’s proposal is that if an MP has broken the rules they will have to repay the money. Guido’s view is that only the minimum expenses wholly necessary for the job should be allowable, however the cry of every single troughing MP from every single party is that “it was all within the rules”. So no one will have to pay anything back under Harman’s plan.
ConservativeHome this morning has a post that claims Speaker Martin and Balls-Cooper have injunctions preventing publication of their expenses by the DT. Is this true? If so, what is to be done about it?
Theirs was the revalation I was so looking forward to. Can’t see the DT letting them off the hook. It’ll appear somewhere on the web…
What is a print injunction worth these days? If the Telegraph get cross enough about it, all they have to do is get a blogger in Uzbekistan to post it on his/her blog. It may not help sales, but would be a warning shot across the bows of any crook or MP that the information is coming out anyway.
Just a thought – if Balls & co. did get an injunction, surely the DT would have reported that? “Troughing MP’s expenses so outrageous that they had to get an injunction scandal”
I’m hoping that Sunday will bring fresh revelations.
does parliamentary privilige allow an mp to ask about these injunctions in debate?
To the Telegraph, if this is true and you’re not allowed to say anything about it, then Wikileaks https://secure.wikileaks.org/wiki/Wikileaks is a good place to start.
They will publish ANYTHING and it’s on several secure servers over the world – it’s where a certain party’s membership list started out last year…
@Sarah
Press injunctions can also force you to keep quiet about your being subject to an injunction.
What are they scared of if they’re trying to prevent the information getting out, after all it was within the rules if not within the spirit; they can always say sorry and it’ll all be o.k. again, the public will forgive them.
Did you see my new foundation last night? I lost my old powder puff, but I prefer the new shade anyway.
Gordon, you had the dummy eye inserted back to front. Ginger hair tint (a la Blears) might have been a mistake, but the lip gloss and rouged cheeks looked great.
You can get pants that hold in your expanding wasteline and help squeeze when dropping the kids by the pool or parking your breakfast.
Soon be catwalk time!
How is it the saying goes, if you done nothing wrong, you’ve nothing to fear/hide.
So Mr.Speaker and Mr.Balls, why are you hiding?
All the DT needs to do is say why they can’t publish at the moment and maybe it should be raised in PMQT.
How much faith can we have in this rumour though? It’s been doing the rounds for a few days now.
Can anyone say if there is an injunction against a paper, does that mean the paper can’t report anything regarding the story? or does it mean the paper is still allowed to report they have an injunction against them by x and y?
If it’s true that the big fish are being outed tomorrow, I suppose we’ll find out in about 12 hours or so wether Balls and Missus will have us choking on our cornflakes in the morning.
And not only an injuction, but a gagging clause as well. Bet you the Squeaker refuses to allow Q’s on expenses at PMQ’s today because the Q’s will be “prejudicial to the Police enquiry”. Stalinist arseholes, the lot of them.
I’d love DC to mention it under Parliamentary Privelige at PMQs – GB said this morning that he wants MPs to be honest about their expenses, to have it put to him that people from his own team are desparately trying to stop publication would be something he has no reply to.
So what ?????
As ironically featured in the Sunday Telegraph, they’re are probably using:
http://www.injunction-direct.com/
Or something similar which they can claim back on expenses
The very fact that the Speaker and Mr Balls & Mr Cooper have taken out an injunction speaks volumes about them…
I can only hope that the Telegraph is saving them for a special feature to round off their exposé.
Is that a fact?
Mr Balls & Mr Cooper
Ooh – sex change – now that’s a new twist
Pass it to a “clean” MP (if you can find one) and get him to read out the juicy bits in the HOC.
I think that Parliamentary Privelege covers it: nothing can be done, injunctions not worth the paper that they are written on, and there can be no comeback from the plaintiffs – they would be breaking their own injunction!! It has been used in the past.
But it would take a legal eagle to confirm the above.
I’ll do it for a brown paper envelope stuffed with used £50 notes, or an all-expenses paid trip to a swish Paris hotel with the family. No problem.
Give it to Kate Hoey – she’s due to give Martin a bruising with a full broadside!
Nothing like return fire which sinks the ’ship’.
Any MP who has not published or had his or her expenses published will either be deselected or voted out in the election.
Also publication would not be allowed if it impeded a police investigation or was likely to prejudice a fair trial.
I find it difficult to believe that a judge would grant an injunction under the current circumstances unless there was an absolutely compelling reason.
(See above)
Surely Gorbals Mick is stepping down next April anyway to spend more time with his rivet gun? He has to be kicked out publicly and seen to be kicked out. Rewarding incompetence and pig-headed stupidity is now looking like a British trait. NO MORE.
Doesn’t this contradict the FOI Act?
How else would we, the paying public, find out about their expenditure?
Their expenses will be formally published next month under the FOI act. Gorbals and Mr. & Mrs. Bollox are only prolonging their agony.
Remember, the DT had a very short shortlist of those who were in the clear. Should inferences be drawn?
I wonder if it could be that Balls and Cooper have each been claiming for the same property?
No
Yes.
Not claiming for the same property – but maybe both?
Mr MP claims House A as main and House B as secondary.
Mrs MP claims House B as main and House A as secondary.
Therefore both houses have mortgage, repairs, food on table, etc etc paid for out of taxpayers funds. Net personal cash expenditure by 2 X MPs = 0.
Just how many husband/wife teams infest Westminster?
161 JMT – Seconded, I’m almost positive that’s what they’re doing.
Apart from the Bolleaux’s, there’s Andrew McKay and Julia Kirkbride (both Tories), Alan and Ann Keen (both Lab)
Found this sotry from June last year, suggesting that there is an enquiry ongoing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7473853.stm
- could the reason for the lack of details be that it would be prejudicial to the enquiry..?
Husband and wife teams? Don’t forget the Wintertons – already been investigated for “unintentional” breaches of expenses rules.
If Gorbals Mick was concerned enough about the Telegraph’s revelations to seek an injunction against the paper, do you not think it likely that he would have sought an injunction against further revelations of ALL MPs’ expenses?
He is after all, the senior shop steward of the Commons.
Or is he just a selfish hoon only concerned about protecting his own integrity? (What integrity? Ed)
They know the expenses detail will be released, but they only want you to see their”amended”version
Even the most obsequious appolgist for MP corruption has had to admit that MPs squirming to prevent release of receipts was to hide what they have done in the past, and allow them to continue. Protestations for ‘privacy’ and anything else were clearly smoke screens to hide the trough.
So what will people make of injuctions to hold information back… they will (quite rightly) assume the worst…
In fact by delaying publication (it will only be a delay), means they will have the headlines to themselves when the info does come out !
LINK PLEASE
Can you be prevented from telling the truth?
Interesting philosophical point there.
It’s a while since I studied libel/slander, but I seem to recall that there are circumstances in which truth is not an absolute defence to a claim. Anyone got a copy of Gatley handy?
Suspect that they are trying to hide the fact that they have both been claiming for the same things. That really would finish the testicular twats but good!
They really must think we are stupid.
Guido, if there is a blind injunction what if anything can be done to get around it or get it lifted in the public interest?
Oh, no, it won’t. They’re socialist MPs, after all.
Sometimes you need to send a memo, othertimes you need to kick arse.
Bend over Harriet
this way you would not see her face!
Wholesale Criminal Prosecutions … NOW !!!!
Agreed
Send in the Fraud Squad. Mass arrest at PMQ’s.
Sod arresting them – think of all that wasted police time when they could be out on the streets walking people ‘the last mile home’…
In the (not very often wise) words of David Blunkett – “Why don’t we just send in the army to machine gun a few of them?”
27Old Holborn says:
May 13, 2009 at 9:03 am
Agreed
Send in the Fraud Squad. Mass arrest at PMQ’s.
nice (:>)
Best send in both the Fraud and the Freud squad for the PrimeMentalist. T
Send in the Fried Squad for my usual double haddock and giant fries. Got to give the new lavvy a work out later.
Unfortunately we’re both dead.
She is pathetic, typical Labour news management trying to turn a PR car crash into a ‘process’ story.
They really are stupid.
She’s worse than pathetic. What contact has she EVER had with real life? She’s a spoiled middle-class brat like “I’m a Boy called Hilary” Benn. At least if you’re a boy named Sue you KNOW you’re called something bloody silly. With “Hilary” you’d always be looking over your shoulder. His dad must have really wanted to bring out the hard man in his son. Both Harridan and Lord Stansgate Jr pose as lefties after enjoying a solid, well-upholstered upbringing far from the need to earn a living in the real world – ie the type of business that Broon shags to death every day with more and more read tape and stealth taxes. All they’ve ever done is talk politics and go to meetings. Let’s coin a phrase: “criminally pathetic.”
Sixth
So don’t the LibDems deserve a blog entry?
Probably not. What a bunch of amateurs.
they are going to get what is coming to them, have no fear.
Cardigans and sandals at the taxpayers’ expense, no doubt.
Not cardigans, a nice Taupe fleece made from recycled carrier bags.
Please can we have an end to the overwhelming tide of Brown stuff?
Someone take the microphone’s away from them, empty chair them, lock the gates of Drowning Street after a cabinet meeting, give them ASBO’s or a curfew…but keep them off the streets
Call an election
Until then, we wait for PMQ’s
What new on Goebbels Mick?
nothing new but the grumpy little shit is worried about something, judging by recent performances which, incredibly, fell below his usual abject standard . Can’t remember if I got it here or via MSM but there was a suggestion that 6 MPs were being investigated by plod. Can anyone refresh my memory? It might explain why certain likely suspects are as yet unexposed. Alternatively, the DT might simply be planning a grand finale. It could also explain why a couple of ministers suddenly did an about turn and offered to pay back a tiny bit of their troughed loot.
On a side note you must see the George Galloway Youtube clip posted on Iain Dale. Hilarious – the Galloway’s a self parody !
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/
George’s beard is getting longer. He knows who’s butting his bread.
Interesting. I have always thought Galloway an accomplished debater, but here he makes a complete clown of himself. Well worth a look.
yeah–galloway looked well stuffed–he started yelling and losing control–and never answered the question
Harpy and her gormless chums just don’t get it: The great NuLabour experiment is finished, kaput, dead. It is an ex-party. An extinct Government.
All that remains is for this fact to be rubber stamped at the next general election.
The public is sick and tired of being fleeced, badly governed, mired in politically correct, student marxist social policies, lied to, finger wagged at, spied on, patronised, robbed blind and ruled by an out of touch liberal elite which appear to be in it not for the good of the country and electorate, but for the enlargement of their own egos, wallets and purses.
Go, and go soon please. You’re washed up and way past your use by date.
Agreed.
May I congratulate you on our 3rd paragraph. Succinct and sadly true.
Woah there Ratsniffer. ‘Liberal elite’?
Liberal…
favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
Surely, after twelve years of this lot, we can agree that New Labour are anything but ‘liberal’.
They are the ‘liberal elite’, which is anything but liberal in the classic sense. Classic liberalism I grant you is concerned with civil liberties, individual freedom, security of property and a guarantee of rule by law. The ‘liberal elite’ are about so called human rights, curtailment of civil liberties and suppression of freedom of speech in the name of what they regard as “right on” (diversity, multi-culturalism and arbitrary law). So our nonsense, ridiculous Home Secretary can ban Geert Wilders and Michael Savage from the UK for all these specious reasons, when it would be far better to let them have their say and then ridicule them.
An ‘elite’? Whenever England’s rugby 15 take the field against another nation, the 15 are the elite of England: England’s best, by selection and test. The cabal in Parliament is no ‘elite’ but rather a clique or evena civilian junta.
Bravo! My thoughts in a nutshell. Succinct and articulate.
I don’t suppose you fancy standing for election in Gloucester?
I agree entirely – except they are not liberal, they are authoritarian.
Facist, even.
Bunch of wankers more like.
National socialists perchance?
All good, paragraph three – brilliant! Very accurate indeed.
No, no. They’re just pining for the fjords.
I’d like to nail the fuckers to their perch.
Nail em on a cross more like
When you look at it
There all a pice of shit
They lie and spin and treat us all like hoons
When he’s chewing on Mandys gristle
Brown gives a little whistle
Hoping things will turn out for the best
Not this time you bastard and no return from the dead for you
Unfortunately the post of poet laureate has already been taken.
Ratsniffer, you are Dan Hannan, and I claim my £5.
the speaker is nothing short of a disgrace. he has brought shame on a post that was one of the few that clung to any integrity. his bias and blatant profiteering is outrgaeous and he should be drummed from the house in chains.
prosecutions now.
I still can’t believe the behaviour of this irascible, egregious and chippy cunus obesus. nEU LabiAH probably thought they were being cynically clever in imposing him on the House as Speaker. Well, look at you now, hoons!
Mustn’t have one of the filthy nasty tories lording it over us can we? Let’s get one of those nice friendly union men, oh and scottish too – that will suit us as we are either scots or brought up there.
Idiots.
Similarly, what use is Gorgon’s plan for an independent review body?
We have seen what happens with ‘independent’ reviews of all sorts (e.g. the Iraq war) – all members of the body would be friends, acquaintances and/or dependent on the government’s largesse. As long as expenses are published in full, the man in the street can judge the level of honesty, integrity and ethics of the claimants without help from an ‘independent’ body – which would of course just be another jobs-for-the-boys quango squandering yet more public money and another layer of obfuscation!!
Similarly it is no use if their salaries and perks are decided by ‘indepndent’ reviews. These are one of the great tools of public deception. The only way to avoid the politicians tinkering with their pay (and therefore being exposed to, and inevitably falling to, corruption) is to have a set link between pay/perks and some unfiddleable index. Could I suggest they use the UK average wage – i.e. any pay and/or perk received is, for all time, fixed as some multiple (smallish!) of average UK pay! This would be virtually impossible to fiddle and would look fair to all (except perhaps the MPs themselves, but who gives a toss about what they think!!)
Spot on and this is why the loss of trust is such a disaster.
‘Independent’, my arse! You know, I know, the vast majority now know that placemen will be appointed to do Brown’s bidding.
As a result, whatever politicians say in future, whether the truth or not, won’t be believed.
It really is a very serious situation.
MP Done Troughing?
Caught done troughing more like!
DunTroffin, a great name for a second home.
I thought to be within the rules that the expense was required to help fulfil the job of the Member. It’s clear to me that this is fiddling and extortionate.
Typical sort of half-baked response from this silly and self-regarding cow! Every attempt to do anything is underpinned by some effort to conceal or dodge. Its like trying to catch quicksilver, except you’d likely get something worse than mercury poisoning if you caught hold of any of this lot.
Did anyone hear Doris Karloff, Austin Mitchell’s missus and some Tory spouse brazening it out on “Today” this morning? Oh how my heart bleeds for these poor old girls that are so badly off that they all have overdrafts and have only £24k pa to rent houses.
Yes, Mrs Austin Mitchell is another who does not yet get it. Puke.
Hanging Chad, you and I will become the big scandal at the next general elections (don’t worry, I won’t propose to meet up).
Still waiting for a few other contributors here:
-Broken-in ballot box (as happened in labour hq a few weeks ago with the south-east London candidate election (lots of postal votes for Mrs Gould in there).
-Missing marked voters register (as happened in Glenrothes last year).
-Dead postal voter (many examples of these).
-Out-of-view counting table (as reported by the people that oversaw the Glenrothes byelection; if you insist I will try find the link)
-The union pays postage on my election pamphlets (when living in the uk, I often received mail from the labour mp with union stamps on the envelope)
-Secretive postal-vote-counting company (there is a company in Northern ireland that seems to be cornering this market).
-Let’s not track which party gets most postal votes (not sure whether this would be possible or allowed under the current rules)
PS I’m well aware that some of these names can use some sprucing up
PS2 Before everyone thrashes me, I know hanging chads won’t be an issue in the UK
I think hanging chads will soon be all the rage. After all, it does take a while for US fashions to catch on over here. On the other hand, being inventive Brits I’m sure we can come up with something even dodgier.
You mention some fascinating things, some of which I have heard of and others not. What, for instance, is this Northern Ireland outfit about?
Vote early and vote often!
We need Georgia Gould in Labour.
Labour’s postal voting scheme, especially where they lose the register, seems to qualify.
Yes, I had the misfortune to hear this. It is beyond comprehension that someone on Toady ever thought it was a good idea that junk like this was worth broadcasting.
She is just trying to defend the interests of the inner core of Labour troughers who will remain after their decimation next GE. Can then get their support for post-Brown leadership.
2010 – Harman leads Labour opposition (current salary: £141,820)
2014/15 – loses GE
2016 – resigns as MP, bumped up to Lords, nice retirement pontificating about equality on R4
Look Harriet is doing a fantastic job and she is the right person to continue claiming her expenses which are incidentally all within the rules. Nu Labour is the best party to lead the country and I am the best person to do it but I’m not holding an election just yet because it’s not the best time as we are concentrating on the current downturn. I think that the public want me to continue leading them as I have done by giving squillions of their taxes to Europe in exchange for nugatory legislation, I think this is the right thing to do and it’s what people want form the labour party. If you don’t believe me then I refer you to the last Tory government, they did some pretty sleazy things; now that that’s sorted you can all go back to voting for us. I think that it’s the right thing for the country and by continuing to throw good money after bad the labour party is doing the right thing to get us out of this recession, I think that the public want us to hand them a national debt that most of their great grandchildren will still be paying off.
Thanks, Gordon, but I’d prefer another dance video.
Any chance?
Have been concentrating on my smile, witty asides and make-up before putting my name forward as Bruce’s replacement for Strictly Come Dancing.
Nice to see you, pay more tax. What do points make? Expense claims.
Got to work on those a bit, but at least we are making Britain laugh.
Are you coming to Suffolk again for your holidays this year? If so, I’d appreciate it if you would settle the bill of £160,000 for “police protection” that you didn’t pay when you skipped the county.
PS My cut has gone up to 20%.
My music track of the day is…………………………………
“Trouser Press” by the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band.
Press those trousers
How about ‘Up the (In) junction’ – by Squeezed.
Or “Naa naa na na, naa na na na, hey hey hey, Goodbye” (Bananarama, cover version D. Miliband)
“It doesn’t matter who you vote for … the Government always gets in.”
Go and clean out Sir Henry’s moat right now, sir!
I see that Aberdeen Angus from the SNP ahs done pretty well out of the expenses game. Can someone please explain why we have got these knobs voting in our parliament when we have no say in the expensive and corrupt folly-rood? AA might want to separate the skirt wearers from the rest of us but he seem more than happy for the English tax payer to supply him with top of the range home entertainment systems.
Xenophobic twat!
Have I touched a nerve? Scared that the free prescriptions and university education will dry up if devolution happens? Think that Folly-Rood was money well spent? Think that over £20,000 pa expenses for the leader of SNP is value for money?
Your kilt’s on back to front.
Blokes in skirts, isn’t that why Hadrian built the wall in the first place, to keep the cross dressers at bay. I agree with St Geo. The Scottish parliament is an expensive joke, another one of Blair’s Europhilic moves funded by the working man (and woman) so that he could snuggle up to Brussels and improve his chances of becoming the first president of the USE.
Labour haven’t got a clue. They run around trying to catch up because Brown suffers from paralysis by analysis. He couldn’t lead a Sunday parade without first seeking advice. What the electorate should be demanding is the immediate dissolution of Parliament and for every MP to be obliged to put him/herself forward for reselection.
Let’s get rid of the troughers (all parties) and let’s have a Government of which we can be proud.
I know it won’t happen – I’m just trying to be positive today.
I’m sorry I haven’t a clue
And the BBC’s headline links? ‘Brown wants all claims reviewed’ & ‘Blears will pay tax on flat sale’.
Guido will have to put in some overtime just to level the playing field. I know turkeys don’t vote for Christmas but this is taking the piss. Despite the pay cheque, they can’t really feel that it is in their interest to look on as the country is continually shafted, can they?
what about the profit from the house sale, after all it was payed for by us
Exactly. Blears share the proceeds move of 10 grand to the taxpayer and 30 grand to her is a total piss-take.
It could well be that the Blears publicity stunt is a scam, the payment will be secret and IF she posts the cheque at all it could well be given back as an overpayment rebate!
The HMRC doesnt just take cash throught the post and tacks it on without thinking about where it came from and why, the first thing they will do is start an investigation and if it turns out that she defrauded the HMRC then all the ad hoc ‘cheques in the post’ will not wash!
She will either send the cheque off in the full knowledge it will get returned as a rebate OR she will not send the cheque off at all and nobody would be able to find out whether she did as its all secret!
Blears is a lying cheating common thief caught scamming the public and now she has been caught faking up some ad hoc repayment story that has more holes in it than a fucking collander!
Commissar Blears is not just a midget in vertical inches, she is a midget in term of morals too.
You are rather assuming that HMRC is independent. Labour seem to have placemen everywhere else, why not HMRC.
The HMRC IS the Labour party.
What was the name of the top guy who resigned following the loss of half the population’s personal data?
Two weeks after resigning he turns up working for Shit-for-Brains at 10 Downing Street.
“Two weeks after resigning he turns up”
EVERYONE who has to resign, but knows where the bodies are buried, gets a sinecure to keep quiet. These people should all be on a tory p45 hit list, with bin-bags issued for the day after the election. Then – let the book contracts roll….
She’s also very common – even for a politician.
Oi, I don’t want to see Hazel Blears waving a cheque, I want to see her waving a receipt for the cheque!
I find it astonishing how well-insulated MPs are – with their special tax rate and free food and tax-free allowances – from the effects of the UK recession that everyone else is suffering. I bet MPs have not even noticed the 20 per cent increase in the price of staple foods in the last year nor the steep rises in the cost of gas and electricity.
Is it going to turn out that “saving the banks” last autumn was really intended to preserve the value of MPs’ property portfolios (built with taxpayer’s money) and their other investments made with the salaries that they don’t have to spend when they want to buy tat like elephant lamps and porticos? And not about saving jobs and livelihoods. After all, when the UK population has to start paying back Gordon’s public borrowing, through 20 years of much higher taxes, MPs won’t be suffering like those they are elected to serve.
MPs are elected to serve us but, it appears, about half of them at least serve only themselves once elected.
Half?
…and their heavily subsidised bars and restaurant, their free travel to and from their constiuencies, their (once) free parking at airports, their avoidance of the no-smoking rule that applies to the rest of us, their generous pension arrangements, their substantial redundancy package when we finally have the opportunity to get rid of them……they are totally and utterly out of touch in their feather-bedded existence.
Those unwilling to make cash restitution should be reminded that we also take limbs……..
A pound of Flash?
A pair of hands, neatly severed at the wrist.
Better yet a pair of Balls
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/it’s-the-system-that’s-a-piece%11of%11shit%2c-thieving-bastard%2c-say-mps-200905111751/
You see? It wasn’t their fault.
If the Balls have an injunction in place against the DT, the fact of it would be confidential too – gosh, must be bad.
Harman’s plan is as useless as Brown’s plan. Have you ever heard such a ridiculous idea of a forensic audit of 646 MP’s expense claims for the past four years. Not only will it cost a fortune it will take an army of accountants at a huge cost to the taxpayer, the treasury doesn’t have the funds for it and the country will suffer more for it, and it won’t rake in very much even if they find the odd “bathplug”. This hair-brained scheme of Brown’s is just grandstanding, he thinks that most people in Britain will admire that idea but won’t understand the financial implications of carrying out this forensic audit. This kind of policy is what Brown has applied in government over the past twelve years. I now believe that he is definately insane and should not be in charge of the country. Surely Cameron will throw this plan out the window.
We already have a forensic audit anyway. The DT are doing one for free. Hopefully, once they’ve hd a good look they will ‘open source’ it – release the whole lot so the general public can do it’s own audit.
I think it’s a jolly good plan.
Cheaper to just string a few up to make an example. Watch how fast the rest form an orderly queue to repay everything with 40% compounded interest.
HMG could even make a few quid from television rights. Suggestions: “Scam of the Century”, “Play Your Claims Right”, “Who Tried To Be A Millionaire?”, “Squeal or No Squeal”, etc.
Could you just sign this contract release form please?
I think a system of spot checks would work far better, be just as effective and cost a whole lot less. Place all of their expense and allowances claims in a large container (bloody large in fact) and then have a weekly lucky-dip draw – or unlucky-dip draw for some of them. Problem is, we couldn’t trust them to organise it without trying to interfere and control the process.
On second thoughts, it’s a rubbish idea.
Is that a nom de plume for Prezzers?
I don’t know,instead of auditing the ones who come out of the hat,why not string em up. That way,it keeps the rest on their toes,and it means a regular introduction of new blood.
New Labour has cost the taxpayers hundreds of thousands of £pounds and the Tories have cost the taxpayer tens of thousands of £pounds. As they are by far the largest political parties with the largest amount gained they may be permanently damaged by this expenses scandal whereas little or no notice will be taken of the smaller parties. However New Labour will be damaged the most because they have been the party in power who presided over this greed fest for 12 years and did nothing about it.The Tories may bounce back because of Cameron’s quick and decisive response yesterday as opposed to Brown’s usual dithering and grudgingly late responses. All in all its yet another nail in Brown’s and New Labour’s political coffin.
Marian I agree with all you have said. What action has Brown taken against members of his cabinet who have abused the system…none! He is less than useless and he is running the country into the ground, there will be very little or nothing left to rescue if Brown and Labour don’t go soon.
Ed Balls what are your expenses?
Ed Balls what are your expenses?
Ed Balls what are your expenses?
Ed Balls what are your expenses?
Ed Balls what are your expenses?
Speak to my lawyer.
Speak to my lawyer.
Speak to my lawyer.
Speak to my lawyer.
Speak to my lawyer.
My client now claims insanity.
My client now claims insanity.
My client now claims insanity.
My client now claims insanity.
My client now claims insanity (and will put it on expenses, as usual).
All my expenses were within the rules, I have been forced to take an injunction for reasons of…um.. security.. yes security, nothing to do with anything else and certainly nothing to do with the vast claims I have made. I think that the public will agree that I am good value for money and…..
Surely you mean National Security, any revealation would endanger our brave boys at home and abroad (fighting illegal wars).
Must keep them secret for, er lets think, 1000 years. Yes, that will be long enough to prevent being victims of terrorism.
Interesting that on the Toady programme this morning Toenails Robinson and fellow-traveller Evan Davies singled out Cameron for discussion because he claimed the full whack for mortgage interest whereas no mention made of serial house flippers like the hoon Hoon, the Ginger chipmunk or darling Badger!
Well-balanced as always!
Exactly! See post at 9.21 am
Is this the worst govenrment Britain has ever had?
Yes, and Brown is the worst and most hated Prime Minister Britain has ever had, by miles.
Yes
Tyranny, tyranny. They’ve got t’ for me.
Beware the Ides of May. Is this a powder puff I see in front of me?
I think that we’ve done rather well thank you very much. Oh can you please stop petitioning for me to resign, you know it’s not going to happen and it does look rather messy on the website.
Debateable, but probably they are. Security of the people and the nation is the primary responsibility of government. So, given their record on the break up of the union – Balkanizing the UK, conceding to SF-IRA terrorism, surrendering so much remaining sovereignty to the EU, starting a (probably) illegal war by participating in the invasion of a another sovereign state (no matter how odious) and committing demographic terrorism against the indigenous population of the country through unfettered and uncontrolled immigration for their political gain – would indicate that this government has in effect, attacked this country rather then governed it.
Leaving aside the massive destruction of civil liberties , the assault on democracy and the wanton plundering of the economy at all levels (including their self-enrichment through their self-crated expenses system) – and that is a lot to leave aside….we can draw comparisons with in my mind, the worst two governments before New Labour and these must be the North government that so failed to understand the public mood over the Atlantic about taxation, manged to our third civil war, known to our cousins and the American War of Independence or Revolutionary War -which then effectively dragged us into a series of long wars with France and began the National debt, which NuLabour have manged to double in an eye-wateringly record time. The second failed government must of course be the Chamberlain government of appeasement in the 1930s. Most historians agree that if Britain had stood up to Hitler soon enough the outcome – which we are still paying for in every sense political, economic and social – most likely would have been different. So to realistically rank our post 1997 NuBlaour regime is the worst British Government in history is pretty damning to say the least.
Minekiller, I agree with you – especially the first paragraph. I believe that Blair lied us into a war that has not only killed over a million Iraqi men, women and children. It has also killed many British service personnel as well as those of the USA.
In all, his lies have done great damage to this country and that, in my book, is treason. I would like to see him brought to book for his crimes and I would like to see him, if found guilty, punished accordingly.
Furthermore, there is much blood on the hands of his cabinet colleagues and they should also be tried.
But they will not.
The moral fabric of our country has been gravely damaged by these dreadful people.
You are being unfair to Kings John and Edward II – but apart from them definitely the worst.
Mind you, still a year to go…
Dr Feelgood, I’ll give you that…but then we got Magna Carta under King John and at least someone had the decency to stick a poker up Ed II’s arse and get rid of him.
Britain’s worst government ever? Only because somebody else got out in time. Can someone please remind us about what happened to Blair’s expenses? In fact, I’d say that a re-appraisal article of Blair is urgently needing Guido’s attention just as a reminder as to the kind of slippery eel that can be elected PM. It appears the Cons reckon that we need another like Blair.
Maybee they shold send them al to jail. They have after al takin moneys that don’t belong to them.
Admittedly off topic but Polly seems to have changed her tune somewhat….
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/11/labour-gordon-brown
Yeah, she’s chanting something new round her cauldon now.
Is it this?
On the same page as Polly’s wisdom is this ‘job’ and others at Plymouth City Council:
http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/job/859920/assistant-director-for-democracy-and-governance?RSSSearch=0&gusrc=gu_jobs_box_Comment%20is%20free&link=Comment%20is%20free_jbx_vac
This looks as though it is the root of our economic problems, and Plymouth CC is known to be heavily penetrated by Common Purpose. BTW, exactly what is this job?
“Driving forward….”?? What?? As opposed to driving backwards I suppose. Can anyone on this blog see a PC public sector twonk doing that “Driving forward stuff in the style of Sir Alan Sugar??
Nah, forget it. It’s just HR “make it sound dynamic” type double speak.
Can Guido not publish on this site?
Did he not move his server to the “Free State” so as to get around ZANULabour laws?
Give the DT a call Guido, and offer to get the good stuff out.
The confirmed existence of a D-Notice will be as good as an admittance of troughing.
Guido, did you see the new version of the Oliver! video at Beau Bo D’Or’s site – he’s the guy who did the one you used the other day – hillarious and even more of a pisstake of the Hoonourable Speaker…
http://www.bbdo.co.uk/blog/ :-)
Good day and a bad day yesterday for the Tories, but seems like Dave turned it around – will survive… DC demostrated that certain something – leadership – that Gordon just doesn’t have, and he really found his balls yesterday. GB looking more like the village idiot daily. Cameron therefore now completely has the higher ground over NuLab, and has further exposed Gordo and co as being the spineless parasites that they are. Of course, the Tory claims are indefensible, but that’s the whole point of his extremely well-timed press conference yesterday. Fair enough, he didn’t seem to have much choice but to fess up and give all concerned a very public bollocking, but he did have a choice. Gordon also had a choice, but wimped out like we knew he would (cronies stating that all claims were ‘within the rules’ – which the public just doesn’t buy) – and now Gordon’s claiming the credit for Dave’s idea! Interesting to see even NuLab apologist Nick Robinson giving Gordon a (sort of) hard time about Cameron taking the initiative yesterday. Sort of, but that’s a start at least. Cameron will probably come out of this looking okay, Gordon like the buffon he always does, but magnified. Dissolve parliament now – general election please…
Sod the lot of you.
I’m going to claim for a new cabinet on expenses.
Just learned from JP that you can get one with a potty built in. It’ll save nipping out to the bog all the time.
Harman’s plan is sooooo New Labour. Big announcement, “taking action” and all that, designed to fail, with no redress and patsies in place to ensure the failed result they want.
Christ, given the mood of the country- and my dear MPs reading tis blog – it is very, very ugly – one would have thought that even this ridiculous fool, this harridan, could at least mange to do something even in the direction of correct.
But that is the problem, NuLabour and hardwired for failure.
Harman is very cheeky indeed. She got her proposal out just after 3 yesterday, before 3:30 at which Cameron had scheduled a press briefing. Indeed the unbiased BBC did niot fail to mention that Harman got in there ahead of Cameron’s press conference. But to be sort of fair to the BBC, which it almost certainly doesn’t deserve, the BBC was already carrying the story that Cameron would demand paybacks, and that story took a lot of time to make it onto The Guardian website (what else is new?).
Can Guido start an FOI request to get the amount the government pays for public sector jobs adds in The Guaridna. I suspect it’s what supports the vast army of labour spinners employed by that paper.
Guido, any news on progress of your other FOI requests?
I think it’s appalling the way that Nick Robinson takes regular phone calls from Alistair Campbell and Peter Mandelson discussing what line to take on the latest political revelations.
It was most obvious on the Radio 4 Today programme this morning when Robinson and Evan Davies tried to imply deceipt and wrongdoing on Cameron’s part over his mortgage interest payments and the unsubstantiated suggestions that Tory MPs are angry with him because he is wealthy and can furnish his house unaided by expenses whereas they cannot.
This is pure Labour spin, and, of course, there was no mention of the far biggest offenders in all of this like Darling, Hoon, and Blears.
It’s no wonder we call him Toenails at the BBC.
Agreed. Toenails is a disgrace.
The problem with bbc coverage of the conservatives will always be that every bbc reporter knows the tories are the party that would fund the bbc less generously than other main stream political parties.
Cameron should sat up a team immediately to monitor political bias at the BBC. It will only get worse during a general election campaign.
Funding is an influence I’m sure – but I’m afraid that we have to accept that the BBC is insitutionally biased.
I don’t know the reasons why – maybe part of the cause is the way journalists are hired (The Gruniad), but it has to be deeper than that.
Any BBC’ers on here who can shed some light?
The BBC are a self-selecting oligarchy. At interview stage, anyone who doesn’t spout the Common Purpose newspeak gets weeded out, as not being ‘one of us’.
It’s bloody scandalous that scum like Campbell and Mandelson are still dictating the news agenda at the BBC. Cameron should demand an investigation.
Many years ago, Norman Tebbit was in charge of a BBC-Bias-watch sort of outfit, but got nowhere. However – that was before the days of blogging, and linking. Plenty of instances are referred to on this blog and others, but there is no co-ordinated effort by the Tories to link and publicise them. There should be. Money has been wasted on far less effective tactics than this. DC should not be cautious, hoping that the Beeb will change tactics before the next election. Face it Dave – they’re just not that into you. Time to boil their bunnies and snip the crotches out of Nick Robinson’s trousers.
GUIDO, the suspense is killing me!!! You MUST know! WTF is happening with the expenses of Balls & Cooper?
Will someone please start some sort of momentum to get them published? The very absence of this from the news must be news-worthy, no?
I’m gonna be on suicide watch myself if it turns out Mr&Mrs Testicles-SoWhat?-Cooper have dun nuffink’ rong.
Paul Waugh reporting that Phil Hope is handing back 41k!!!
Yes, Harpic’s response is pathetic.
But then again DC missed an open goal.
Just imagine the impact if DC had actually decapitated some of the troughing Tory Grandee’s, McMental would be near finished today.
I believe the bunker is quite pleased with the Tory response – it did not make Mcmental do anything that would have consequences for his leadership.
Some old Tory grandee blood on the carpet was necessary in this instance, & DC failed to draw his sword.
Not good.
Not good for morale in the party if he did, either. Why cause unnecessary resentment? He did just enough to capture the initiative.
Sod the lot of you.
I’m claiming for a new cabinet on expenses.
Hey Gordon, make that a drinks cabinet and I’ll come round and share a bottle of Dom P and some of that there caviar pie with you and a couple of “diary secretaries” before I go off to join the Tories.
Did I say that I do not want to be Prime Minister?
Oh for fucks sake shut up Harriet and get your kit off – I’ve just got time for a quickie before the pubs open
A quickie on the loo seat, that would explain it then!
On the loo seat I suppose, or is it really the overweight that breaks them!?
Yes. That was within the rules at the time although we’ve learned the lessons, drawn a line under that, moved on and are getting on with the job of running the country ( into the abyss )
no disappointment for you there then
You won’t get much for the old one, although Zimbabwe may be interested.
Doah
Gordon, you’ve already got a cabinet on the make with expenses
Several Police Officers in the Met under investigation for expenses fraud, using corporate credit card.
I can’t possibly believe it will be one law for the police but a different one for MP’s – that could never happen in this country.
Three junior sailors found guilty of expenses fraud at a recent court martial in Portsmouth, several hundred pounds apparently. All were punished to varying degrees and not given the option of paying it back, pleading that it was a clerical error etc.
Cannot the one-eyed son of the Manse see what his own MSP has to do with his own expenses and publish the lot himself? Twat- coming out with a pseudo-Napoleonic stance, giving ‘I am right and you all obey’ stance
The time has come for the dissolution of Parliament.
Every time I catch them on the news, I watch who is talking and comment that he/she is troughing. And so it continues….I have no confidence in their ability to do the job. They are corrupt. So how the hell can they continue as if nothing is the matter??
What’s going to happen at PMQs as Martin tries to hold sway? The man has no credibility even amongst MPs yet he’ll be there as the buffer between New Labour and the TRUTH. What the fuck is going on??? There is no one to give a lead as MPs look dazed and confused. The time to go is NOW.
Dissolve Paliament now.
Instead of dragging Gorbals TO his chair, the time has come to drag him FROM his chair. Let’s hope it’s today.
Hmmmmm…
I must admit, whenever I gave money to girlfriends in the past and I have had more than my fair share (also engaged six times and married twice) I was never offered the change and always had to ask. I also notice that women always get to the front of the queue with their purse still inside their handbags.
Have you notice on busses they always hold people up when the rummage around looking for the fare?
I think this is just an extension of that. Women hate to have to repay anything?
And to feminists, please debate without screaming, I have sensitive ears and this is a serious offering.
Ampers
you asked for the change???!!!! Skinflint.
I would never ask you for the change Newgirl
Ampers…I’ve noticed this too…in supermarkets the checkout girl says “that’ll be so and so and whatever pence please”…and invariably the woman looks rather surprised “What! pay!..Money! Oh, yes…ha ha…I actually have to pay”…then look for a mysterious thing called a purse.
And your point is…..?! (I’m decorative, but I don’t claim for my upkeep expenses you know….)
@141 Newgirl. I am sure you are highly decorative and pay for your own upkeep. I just hope you aren’t Julia Goldsworthy, ‘coz if you are then I am very disappointed.
who’s she?!
Mind you, if I had been going out with an MP, no doubt they could have claimed for my upkeep as “decoration”. I’m a lot more fetching than silk scatter cushions, after all.
Why should you get the change back – your girlfriend/wife is not your servant or employee? If you wanted the change, you should have gone and made the purchase or whatever yourself.
That’s nice to know, newgirl. You’re very fetching. Right then, what are you like at carrying?
You can let me know when you’ve finished the washing up.
In no way should one of their own be the chair of ‘The Member’s Allowance’
Committee.
Particularly if their name happens to be Don Troughy!
I’ll chair it if they want, I’ll only claim for meals taken and accommodation at a fair price for the time I’m doing the job. I’ll even do it during my paid holiday as long as they promise to abide by my findings. Can’t say fairer than that.
Then ‘Bobs’ our man, though I have to say your ‘moniker’ will scare the pants off them, they just don’t do Honest!
The Mail has an important story new this morning:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1180229/The-100-000-reason-stay-Speaker-lose-golden-goodbye-quits.html
80% of MPs want Martin to go, but he’s hanging on for a golden bowler, and probably is trying to demand a peerage to boot. He should get neither.
“He should get neither.”
He will get both!
It just reinforces what we all know, that his greed eclipses his integrity. In his precarious position of power and privilege the reported loss of confidence should demand a resignation off even the thickest skinned; I would expect the £100,000 is just too enticing when you know that your out on your ear as soon as the Broon Junta is forced to hold a GE. Bias, greedy and thoroughly self serving are not the attributes you’d want in the speaker, but then again neither are greedy, incompetent and Hoonese for your PM.
Whats with Harmans anal balls hanging round her neck?
Does she like to flaunt them in public or something…? “Look what ive been doing with Jack” stylee?
Leave em in the bedside draw harriden, its not something the public wants to see.
They’re mine; I bought them ( it’s within the rules ) and lent them to Harridan Harperson.
I told Mr. Ball-Scooper and he replied, ‘So what ?’
Want to do a video with me?
They’re still digging! They still don’t get it! She has an overdraft (radio 4 today programme this am),and spends c£24.000 per annum on rent so that she can walk to her work at the Houses of Parliament! Well isn’t she the lucky one, and she’s whining her sox off.Two women were interviewed , one d austin’s wife.
They were followed by the unlovely ann widdicombe whining in defense of mps, they still don’t get it! What about mp’s ultra gold-plated pensions? Not much mention has been made of these, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, What about naming
the v few mps who have NOT used our hard earned tax for their own delight.
Harriet Harman takes it up the wrongun… FACT!!
interesting… what about Yvette and Jaquboots?
Room for them up there too…
These abuses of the Parliamentary expenses system have been going on for years – and by all shades of the political spectrum. What has so incensed MPs is that they have finally been exposed for the corrupt and morally bankrupt lot that they all are. This morning (Wednesday) we find that even the Liberal Democrats have been up to the same tricks. These include the near-saintly (by his own estimation) Nick Clegg, who seemed distinctly flustered now that he and various of his colleagues have been caught doing just the same as all the rest. As for some of the others, if Hazel Blears has done nothing wrong why, after smugly announcing that what she had being doing was all within the rules (rules written by MPs in the first place) has she now suddenly had a fit of contrition and made a great show of paying back monies to the Inland Revenue? I assume to forestall any risk of prosecution. Mind you, I suppose we should be grateful for small mercies – after all, if Douglas Hogg hadn’t had a moat to be cleaned out in the first place, just think what he would have charged the taxpayer for the excavation of one! As it is, given the furore over all this, I expect the installation of drawbridges and excavation of moats will be works being claimed for by all MPs – to save them from the fury of the general public. A la Bastille!
Listened to Today on Radio 4 this morning to a very informative discussion on MP’s expenses including Ann Widdicombe and 2 MP’s wives (Labour and Tory). It made me feel that there could be hope!
Perhaps Harriet Harperson should listen to a replay.
That’s a joke, right?
Those two women were pathetic – ‘how awful it would be if we had to live like our husbands make everyone else live’. Ignorant cows.
Why can’t a journo just ring up Balls and Cooper and ask them about their claims…?
It was reported on the TV last night that Geoff “The Hoon” Hoon was called to No 10 for a one-to-one with McDoom. Are the DT about to dish the dirt on the Big Hoon?
Feck. What are we going to use for the ultimate insult on this blog, when he’s gone. “He’s a complete Martin” hasn’t got the same ring to it.
Re: Sir Michael de Gorballes.
A fellow attired in black, wearing soft – soled shoes and carrying an inflated brown paper bag, judiciuosly deployed, could sort out the problem at little or no cost to the nation.
There’s something dense about Harriet. Why won’t she EVER learn?
Harriet Harman. Very, very VERY badly damaged goods…
The DT editorial was pleasant reading today. Anon Mysog – has it redeemed itself?
Balls is down. Toasted.
Hoon is expecting plod.
Message ends.
Promise Injun?
Did anyone hear what Sir Stuart Bell said yesterday on the World at One? He suggested reducing the allowance for MPs by four thousand to twenty thousand and merging it with the MPs’ salaries so that an MP would get ninety-two thousand a year! Is he mad?
Tim Montgomery’s suggestion that MPs should have to stand for re-selection is dead right. De-select all troughers now!
My music track from yesterday was ……………………
“Laughing Gnome” by David Bowie and Hazel Blears
Todays is “Trouser Press” by the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band and Chris Huhne.
Tomorrow anything by “The Scaffold” would be good!!
As in:
“We’ll drink a drink a drink
To Gordo the Pink the Pink the Pink
The (self -proclaimed) saviour of
The human race”
The whole lot need to be cleared out. They need to start with the speaker but as he would refuse to allow any debate on his probity or competence, the only way would be for Her Majesty to dissolve Parliament. This Brown would never request, because he would be signing his own political death warrant. There are too many of the idiots who have a vested interest in the gravy train. What we must avoid is the obvious tack of giving ourselves over to Brussels even more on the strength of this farce. Fish rots from the head, but I completely do not count the Queen in this as she is above politics. It all shows how shrewd earlier people were to get out when they did.
Come back Rotten Boroughs, paying for votes, and pocket boroughs all is forgiven.
Rot started with Dutch William and the undercover puritans posing as whigs. Nulabour are their spiritual heairs.
30 mins til PMQs….bet its a letdown, it always is when I’m in a position to actually watch it live…
Lissan to mih.
You Brits still doan’t get it.
De Rules is there for de reason.
So you can thieve without bein’ arrestid.
Dat’s why we here, in de Dark Continent, make sure da Rules are perfect for da thievin’. When you goin’ to all wake up ?
Nottin’s wrong wid what any of them has done, all widin de Rules. You MPs all adopt Africa-Style thievin’ all OK, and also agreed by de Harriet Prime Minister too.
I still want to employ dat good boy Derrik Drapar, he fantastic, what his address anyone ?
A South African with a West Indian accent. What a renaissance man you are Jake.
Was Nazi genocide condoned on the basis that it was within the rules made by the Nazi state that perpetrated said atrocity??? NO.
When a set of people can make their own rules about how much money to take from the taxpayer, simply adhering to whatever these rules happen to be is not an automatic defence, morally at any rate.
Merely returning a proportion of second home allowances is grossly inadequate. ALL second home allowances, plus punitive interest, should be paid back to the taxpayer, except to whatever extent it can be conclusively demonstrated that these allowances were used to RENT property from non relatives, non friends and non business associates. IN FUTURE, where second properties are necessary, they should be state owned, and occupancy be transferred from one MP to the next.
To all cheats: Be sure your sins will find you out.
To all hypocrites who claim to be “purer than pure”: Be sure your sins will find you out.
REPENT AND DO PENANCE (i.e. at the very least pay back your ill gotten gains plus punitive interest).
Otherwise, on the last day, the Lord will cast you into the fiery pit, where there is a great weeping, and wailing and knashing of teeth.
… that would be “gnashing”!
yes it was, but they still didn’t get away with it. Remember the Nuremberg trials? The
nazis all used the excuse that they were only doing as they were told.
Doesn’t conviction of an offense somehow preclude you from being a member of parliament for a period of time like a local councillor?
…no wonder they’re fighting to hang on
Harpie Harman will get her ears bashed by us whips for her blatant campaigning for Der Fuehrers job. If she thinks toadying up to our bent backbenchers will win her votes in a leadership contest, she obviously is unaware of our devious plan to nobble her.
The Prime Mentalist is about to double the allowances of all members who back him against silly challenges by Harpie, Posty, Crack Pot Benn or Milliblink.
And we are about to make a painful example of the Chipmunk, after we blow her repaid money on a party for Damian 666 and Dolly Draper.
I am so good, I could shit myself.
Britain never had it as good as us MPs.
Lock stock but no smoking barrel Messers Brown, Cameron and Clegg!?!
I do get weary of that old humbug “We are not guilty of any wrong doing!”
when in every instant I have heard that is the opposite to the truth!
Take Justice Minister Jack Straw who is too busy to pay his council tax,
if we were too busy we would be prosecuted or too busy to pay our mortgage
we would loose our home not our second residence. Echo’s of Blair in Hazel
Blears as she smiles at the wrong time usually when cornered by a reporter!
I am also reminded of the ‘Teflon President’ Reagan where no wrong doing
ever stuck and subsequent PMs seem to have adopted the same talent. Even
Prescott was skeptical of Gordon Brown’s ‘You Tube’ smile! rather like a villain
( or my ex for that matter) they know something you don’t and it isn’t good!
None the less Mr Brown will probably emerge after the next election comming
up smelling of roses, as the new CEO of the IMF or the like which to the layman
will sound as hypocritical as Blair becoming peace envoy in the Middle East;
A little like putting a pyromaniac in charge of the Fire Station!
The answer has to be for Ministers and MPs to be given a salary that include
a mean average allowence and they have to run their office on that and no
further expenses, and for us to use our protest vote wisely in June!!
I would go further and give a flat rental and subsistence allowance for a second home either in the constituency or Central London, together with funds sufficient for a modest number of staff, and free rail/tube travel.
How do I get an injunction to stop my arse?
Borrow one of Woolarse’s tampons
How could our politicians have embezzled money for moat-dredging and swimming pool construction when Britain is almost at the bottom of the list for child welfare in the EU?
What sort of psychopath could sip champagne by a swimming pool paid for with money looted from the public purse, while the welfare of British children is second worst only to the United States among developed nations?
We must imagine greed without pity, self-aggrandizement without substance, promises without intention, and all the rest.
There must be one law for all, and each and every one of the Westminster crooks should be sentenced to imprisonment for having so ruthlessly betrayed our country, our democracy and our children’s futures. One law for all!
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Our Hattie is a hypocrite.
She is also, without a doubt, THE worst Leader of the House of Commons EVER
On her appointment she said “‘I will do everything I can to protect the rights of Back Benchers to hold the Government to account, to ensure proper and timely scrutiny of legislation, and to enable the House to hold the most open, effective and best informed democratic debates in the world’
RUBBISH
Hattie is only interested in one thing. Herself.
She has spent her time as Leader playing Party politics and trying to cover up the scandals that are now enveloping Westminster
She should be ashamed of herself
I urge readers to sign the petition to insist that the speaker Michael Martin should resign.
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/michael-martin-should-resign/sign.html
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it is high time that Harriet Harmsmen the ultimate feminazi controlfreak bitch should be taken out and given a piano wire necklace and strung up from the nearest lampost along with all of the rest of the common purpose Marxist scum.Then we can have our country back
I should have posted this below John Prescott (10:22) – too happy with my joke, too hastily posting it