Tebbit has chosen his words carefully, he says don’t vote for the major expense fiddling parties, don’t vote BNP, vote for the other minority protest parties. By that it is taken he means “Vote UKIP”. He could equally as well also mean Jury Team or Libertas. This could be an interesting euro-election…
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Sarah Palin said…
“A year later, I gotta ask the supporters of all that, ‘How’s that hopey, changey thing working out for ya?’ “
-Gilts (Mar)
As of 28 Jan 2010 +5.8%
Good advice, which I intend to follow.
But hang on: isn’t the European Parliament even more corrupt than Westminster?
Indeed yes, the whole institution is, how can we have confidence in an organisation where no one will sign the accounts off.
Perhaps they should sent Michael Martin (the jock tosspot speaker) to the EU Parliament? He signs off on anything.
Why was Stuart Wheeler ejected from the Conservative Party again ???
Stunning Loyalty and timing Norman so now we’ll see if Dave thinks asking voters not to vote Conservative is perfectly fine or whether he has to show the same balls he did with Wheeler.
But I doubt Tebbit is being spoken of in approving tones in Conservatve Party H.Q. right now.
The poor old codger should shit or get off the pot.
Ukip or Conservative Norman, you can’t be both.
Fuck me, I thought he was dead.
Cameron: There’s an open goal for the Tories: what are you waiting for?
VOTE POLECAT – YOU KNOW IT MAKES SCENTS
Oh dear, Hogg widens his moat and Tebbitt walks into it.
Next we’ll be getting Kilroy-Silk claiming that Norman is supporting Veritas.
What do you call a bloke with a hotel on his head?
Norman ‘On Yer Bike’ Tebbit.
You can’t have any confidence in the E.U. but if you live in the South East you can vote for Marta Andreasen who is on UKIP’s team there.
You can’t trust the EU but you can vote for Marta Andreasen if you live in the South East as she is on the UKIP team there.
The EU’s sacked former chief accountant, Marta Andreasen has just published her book on the disastrous state of the EU Commission’s budget failings Google Amazon). She was at first suspended and the then Deputy President, now Lord Kinnock, who was “supposed” to sort out the budgetary problems ands scams proved to be less than helpful. Not surprising really give that he and his party are so wedded to such “troughing”.
This book should prove extremely interesting after all she was brought in by the Commission itself (ie their person) to sort out the mess and very appropriate at this time of elections. Incidentally she is actually standing in an English constituency.
Herr Flick – you are so sick. Get yourself a banana and chew – that’s all you’re fit for
UKIP are dead in the water. Percentage wise, they are more corrupt than the so called big three. Delve into the archives of the Times or telegraph for some Jucy reading. No doubt the 100k donated by Stuart Wheeler would have been carved up and pissed against a wall befor the ink dried on the Cheque. their leader “Nige” has had handles stitched onto his Suit to make it easier to carry him out of the pubs in Brussells. THEY ARE A JOKE.!!!.
One of the reasons we must get out of the Lisbon Treaty. The Tories have absolutely no desire to give us a referendum and DC is already using weasel words on the issue.
UKIP in the June elections for definite to send the message we will not tolerate EUSSR dogma.
The EU is disastrous for this country. We must do something. Plus all the MP’s have no real power anyway because of it so all this corruption and scandal is for a job thy don’t and can’t do anymore.
You’d think they would want power back as we have to pay for 2 layers of corruption now. If we stay in the EU we may as well dissolve parliament. Hmmmm
And UKIPs` expenses are squeeky clean?!?
I dare to disagree.
Phen said: “The EU is disastrous for this country.”
Eeeerm, the country is quite good at being a disaster without the EU.
One might argue that it would be even more disastrous without the EU, like forever keeping the DNA of non-criminals, for example.
Agree with Dr. Feelgood. No wavering in the ranks.
Anyone remember the BBC reporting on Michael Cashman’s dodgy EU expenses? Nope, neither did I. Ah he’s Liebour not UKIP, that’s why.
Biscuitbarrel and IJ are right. Just look at every aspect of public policy under the control of Westminster and Downing Street, and what do you see?
Our currency – fucked
Our economy – fucked
Defence and foreign policy – lots of lovely little wars all over the shop which cost our forces hundreds of lost and maimed lives and billions of pounds chucked down the drain.
Civil liberties – fucked
Constitutional reform – so we got rid of a hereditary House of Lords and replaced it with the likes of “Lord” Philip Gould and “Baroness” Uddin.
The NHS? Truly fucked
Education? Debased, degraded and screwed up.
I could go on. Hardly inspires confidence and makes one yearn to take back any of the powers ceded to Brussels, does it.? British agriculture is once again something we can be proud of, and the industry is doing well, but no thanks to our own government whose only significant contribution in recent years was the single payments scheme. Another complete fuck-up courtesy of our own home-bred politicians which led to the loss of many family farms and homes and even resulted in some suicides.
Aside from the 15 billion we give the EU in contributions, and the EU’s ability to override our legal system? It is the fault of the mindset of our rulers, even those in Brussels and the tsunami of bureaucracy they represent that has crippled our country.
56 – the EU is just as data crazy as our government (just who do you think they are gleaning that information for?), and far more generous with who they give it to, so they’re hardly a good influence there.
62 – You’re half-right, it isn’t the Europeans fault we are here, but that is because none of us are represented by the EU commission, they’re all unelected, unaudited and have the power to determine the legislation and laws of this country many of which are already in effect!
What we really need is for Government to get the hell out of the way, scale down and stay out of our lives. It is always the free market and private sector that pulls nations out of recession, the prescribed bigger government of ours and the EU will forever be a stone around our neck. If you could inflate and spend your way out of inflation Zimbabwe and Japan would be the richest nations on the planet, the former in the drawn-out process of implosion and the latter suffered a long lasting recession. And we would be lucky to even come out as well off as Japan!
We are where we are because of the greed of our MPs and MEPs, the sooner we can disentangle ourselves from those people then the sooner we can escape the insane position government has taken by thinking it can manage an economy and how we should be living our lives.
Oops, meant that to read ‘inflate and spend your way out of recession’
The mess with agriculture is in no small part attributable to EU regulations, we have too many regulations, too much bureaucracy and government intrusion into everything.
Your list stands true, all those branches of the public sector are a mess, but that should stand testament to impotence of government in all its forms.
This bunch of greedy gits would be no different from an EU bunch, it would only be more of the same.
Did you hear that bitch Merkel this morning….. If you are not with us, don’t expect any co-operation in the future….. Us Frenchies and Krauts have got the balls in our court…. WELL, SEE HEAR, FRAULEIN….. We might just leave taking our fucking massive contributions with us and close our borders to you lot… See if you like all those asylum seekers in Calais then ( who you can currently claim are nothing to do with you ) C.A.P. – hah, your problem…. Corrupt EU parliament – sort it out you two…. bankrupt eastern european states – sorry, nothing to do with blighty madame….
We will be autonomous again, proud and strong…. no pointless legislation, no rules that only we seem to abide by, bent bananas we love ‘em….
Rule Britannia, and fuck off to Fritz and Froggy.
SHIT!!!!!!
Personally I know of no good reason to stay in the EU. Norway and Switzerland seem to be doing OK. Apart from the huge cost, what happened when the UK dropped out of the ERM? Did France and Germany help? Did they H***!
I voted originally for the EEC (common market) Had I known that we would be lead down the garden path to political union with 80%+ of our laws emanating from Brussels (as Enoch Powell was wise enough to forecast), I and I suspect the majority would have voted NO.
On top of all this we have lost our fisheries to the EU who through gross mismanagement (what’s new?) have destroyed them and the UK fishing industry.
VOTE CONSISTENTLY AGAINST THE EU PARLIAMENT.
Also check the Openeurope website. It provides interesting news that the UK news media ignore
Norway has huge oil reserves.
Switzerland has been funded by Templar gold, and subsequently, Nazi gold.
We do not have these options.
If you want a comparison to how “well” we would be doing out of the EU, we would be the lapdogs of the USA, and therefore Israel.
Who has the launch codes for our nuclear weapons? We need to share our nuclear deterrent with the French, and Europe needs to stand up for itself.
#268 “I and I suspect the majority would have voted NO.”
Wrong.
Some of us have realised we have no future as a tiny nation with nothing of value to sell.
Our future lies in Europe, not as a Judeo-American vassal state, thanks all the same for sharing your 20th century world view with us though.
Lord Norman should take his chances, and vote UKIP. At his age, does it matter if the Tories chuck him out ? At least he can hold his head up – in Heaven !
The future of politics is clean.
Another dead tree journalist with her head up her arse.
The EU finances and EMP s expenses should be looked at.
Has anyone seen this website that has profiles on all the candidates for the UK EP elections – http://www.micandidate.co.uk.
Yes the EU is more corrupt than Westminster. A vote in the Euro elections determines that you acquiesce to their existence. It is proof of your acceptance of their rule over you.
I shall be taking a red pen into the voting booth and drawing two parallel diagonal lines across the ballot with the words NO CONSENT GIVEN OR IMPLIED followed by my signature
I DO NOT CONSENT TO THE UNDEMOCRATIC “RULE” OF THE EU! Their rules, statutes, orders, notices, fees etcetera do NOT apply to me as I hereby refuse to grant my consent to their undemocratic system of governance.
Good idea. I shal arm myself with a suitable red pen! No real candidates for anything in my area anyway
Perhaps you should stop voting for parties that support the idea of the EU then, if you want to be such a rabid little Englander.
Sure the EU is corrupt and needs reforming, but as has been seen, so does our very own Parliament.
The future of the UK is in political union in Europe, not as an isolated failed state, doing whatever the USA tells them to do.
It’s quite ironic all these anti-EU hoons going on about sovereignty, when they know that for us to be independent would mean us becoming a vassal of the USA.
He can’t mean UKIP. They’re into expense fiddling in the European Parliament!
Yes but they hate Johhny foreigner so they’re ok (!)
I despair at the Tories, they have two instincts:
1. Get wealthy at any cost
2. Distrust, even hate, someone who is not the same as them.
When are you lot going to realise our politicians use the EU as a bogeyman to deflect from their own failings and incompetence?
We should not be looking to leave the EU, we should be looking to suspend all our payments on demand of root and branch reform of it, and not pay them until it is done.
There are people in all European countries who feel the same about the unaccountability of the EU.
This does NOT make the EU a bad thing. It has been poorly implemented, because it was done so by politicians, and not by the people.
It is time for a clearout in Westminster – no more Labour, no more Tories, or to quote Morrissey:
“I’ve been dreaming of a time when
The English are sick to death of Labour
And Tories”
So am I, so am I.
what is the source Guido?
Europe is the future yeah right it is Elvis just came down from a flying saucer and told me that too – he also told me that unless we did just that we would become slaves to wicked Jewish bankers. Thank God that you and Elvis are here to guide us!
Just why would anyone vote UKIP? The fact is that MEPs have no say in whether the UK stays in Europe – that is a decision for the Westminster Parliament alone. It is a con on the voter for UKIP to stand on this platform in the Euro elections. If you want the UK out of Europe vote for UKIP in the general election by all means – if you want MEPs who are committed to the highest standards of behaviour, vote Jury Team.
Voting to send UKIP to Europe is like voting to send a vegetarian to a steak meal.
He knows exactly what he’s doing.
On yer bike Norman
He knows exactly what he’s doing – good lad.
He knows exactly what he’s doing – dick head.
If Tebbit is still a member of the Conservative party, then he should boot Tebbit out of the party.
I can see what Tebbit is doing – he is trying to force a ‘wake up’ call on the Conservatives, so that they come around to his more right wing way of thinking.
Balls to that…………. Cameron needs to occupy the middle ground, he doesn’t need to be a hard line EuroSceptic, to extract a more democratic and equitable relationship with Europe.
Tebbit may add spice to the election – but Cameron should show bottle and kick Tebbit into the long grass.
EU Dave can’t even make up his mind about kicking out people who have clearly been fraudulent. He’s beginning to look like a joke, dithering and hesitating then blaming “the system”. You wouldn’t want him in charge of the country if there was a real emergency. Perhaps his EU Masters are slow in telling him what to do.
I am sure that when the picture is clear, DC will act decisively.
Knee jerk impetuosity is not a virtue.
He will act decisely when he , er, knows what he’s doing and, er, decides what to do.
NoTebbit should boot out wind bag cameron.
Indeed.
We cannot have a Conservative Party that actually has Conservatives in it as members.
perish the thought.
If DC is to assume the mantle as the Heir to Blair he must remove all the vestiges of Toryism from the Party.
Thanks Norman, my vote is going to UKIP.
I was voting UKIP before Norm got involved, but good to see a real Conservative backing the only credible party to get us out of the stinking EU. BNP are National Socialists (read their manifesto) and the last thing we need is socialism in another guise anywhere!
Norm is a real Conservative – eg telling dole queue dossers to get on their bikes and find a fucking job – can’t imagine cuddly Dave with his tellytubby windmill on the roof of his house telling the ’socially disadvanraged and economically deprived yoof’ that.
If the Notting Hill twats chuck him out I hope he joins UKIP. That is where my vote is going in the Euros and the nationals. Bleat on about splitting the Con vote all you want, all I have to say is “In Europe, not run by Europe” anyone? Or how about getting behind Dave to put the lights out in the country, sorry work toward a “low carbon economy.” The Cons these days are a mix of greenshite and lib dumb ‘compassion’ for the downtrodden masses.
UKIP???
Probably the worst party when it comes to milking expenses, and they rarely even bother showing up.
Such hypocrisy, but nothing more than is to be expected from the rabid anti-EU loonies.
Cameron should use this as an excuse to boot out all these old 80’s f*cks like Tebbit etc
Could be the Conservatives ‘clause 4′ moment
Exellent idea. They might then set up a party that I would vote for.
The booted-outers, that is. Bootees ?
Cameron take on Tebbit! Ha ha! You are a card. Tell Dave Norman’s looking for him and watch him run to the loos. The ladies loos. Nut ‘im Norman!
That would be the 80s fucks that gave us Thatcher and kept the socialist scum out of power for three elections then would it?
Tebbit is yesterday’s man.
He still thinks we have an empire, hence why he hates the EU so much.
Someone should tell him that we don’t and our future as an isolated country is bleak.
Agreed. How dull is Tebbitt?
You just don’t get it do you? There IS NO MORE DEMOCRATIC EU on offer! The people who run the show (not the MEPS) are unelected – and could not be less interested in democracy. When the Lisbon Treaty is finally ratified, they will be able to BAN political parties which advocate withdrawal – indeed which even criticise the goal of ‘ever greater union’ in any way! WAKE UP!
I’m for UKIP. Thanks Norman.
You lube if you want to.
I bumped into Nigel Farage of UKIP in a Brussels bar recently.The place was pullulating with loud, young euro-thrusters, all drinking deep at the euro-trough. He is clearly seen as something of a leper in Brussels, (no ambitious euro-wonk can risk being seen drinking with him) so over a few beers he gave his view that UKIP could do very well indeed in the coming elections and take more seats than Labour. He showed me some mock-ups of proposed poster ads, one of them was a pic of a Heinkel bomber unloading, with a line about ‘the last attempt at a Federal Europe’. I hope he uses it.
Yes, how mature.
Farage is not a politician to take seriously.
Some of us want to move on from images of Nazi Germany – our future is in Europe, not as a vassal of the US-Israel axis thanks.
Europe is the future. Indeed Europe as a collection of individual nations does have a future, as ‘vassal states’ of the EU it has none.
Comment moderation – me so stoopid. UUUuurgghh – day 5 is it? Fuck ‘em – I want scalps, dead bodies and suicides – fer fer fer fer fur fur fuck em.
If anyone can be bothered to turn out
Would it no be nice for “spoiled votes” to lead the election results. I think it would! Particularly if every one used a red pen as suggested above with the words “We Want out of EU“
No, we want reform of the EU.
The future for Britain as an independent nation is no future.
What do we make? What do we offer over other countries? How will we survive as a tiny nation of 60 million?
Come on guys, don’t be so damn myopic.
You’ve already witnessed what happens when we are not in union with our fellow Europeans, we get bullied into wars to further the interests of America and Israel.
At the end of the day, I’d take political union with Europe (albeit a reformed union) over being the lapdogs of Americans and Israelis thanks very much.
“I’d take political union with Europe”
Then fuck off and live in Europe. We don’t want your kind here.
Focus on the Speaker to leave Brown in power….hmmmm…neat in a way but if true totally underestimates the level of impatience out here! It’s not nearly enough.
Dave has to sack not berate. Out with the old.
There are plenty of bright young candidates desperate for a chance! What an opportunity this is! What a shortcut! What a legacy!
Come on Dave, here it is! thee chance you’ve been waiting for!
Are you genuinely ‘new’ or does your moat need dredging too?
Alas the bright young candidates know nothing except political studies.
Sadly you are so very true. I know quite a few and not to generalise, they were all interested in power, not surprisingly they ALL had never held down a proper job.
It’ true there are some real w-village idiots and many ‘I voted NuLab in in ‘97′ bandwagon-brown-nosers……but in there somewhere, well concealed, deep in the long grass there is a someone able and willing to say and do the things that need to be done. We just aint found him or her yet!
“What a shortcut, what a legacy”? Can I drink what you are drinking please?
Cameron had until Sunday night to put a stake in the ground that would have slowed the rush towards oblivion. Any candidate picked by the existing political organization will have the same aims and aspirations as those who picked them.
Do what we tell you or we won’t select or help you is the message given to any new candidates.
Have we learned so little that we wish to continue the rape of Britain by the “political class”?
If no one learns from history, the same mistakes happen again and again and we will get the government we deserve. Again.
Did anyone see George Foulkes interview on BBC news a minute ago. He only had the balls to ask the presenter what she was paid, and she told him. He was, in my opinion, threatening the BBC that if they didn’t tow the party line, they wouldn’t be paid such ‘outrageous’ salaries, of taxpayers money.
The cheek and utter denial is breathtaking.
Fuck that – i’m cool with that. BBC are useless – Newsnight was a fucking joke and I was pissed up. Fiona Bruce vs Katie Derham – excuse me for some time – yowzers, shabba shabba, toot toot etc.
He said that censure motions on the Speaker have happened before. Er, no they haven’t George.
But anyway it sounds like Carswell is all mouth and no trousers. Heard him this morning furiously back pedalling. Suspect his ‘bravery’ will come to nothing.
Actually, it should be ‘toe the party line’.
Can we have a pedants’ corner here, Guido?
Foukes is the problem propping up the most corrupt trougher of them all – Martin.
However he completely dissed the BBC lady reporter.
“How much do you earn”?
She lost the plot
“£92000 a year” she says handing him the open goal.
Watch it. It will be on YouTube
Some of them could camltoe the party line anytime they wanted. Grrrr!
Yes, I did see a minor newsreader badgering him, very rudely interrupting him and when challenged she did admit that her salary was £92,000; something you carefully avoided mentioning. When this is compared with an MPs salary of ~£64,000 for a far more arduous and responsible job (in theory at least), I have some sympathy for the MPs.
This does NOT mean that I support the scandalous and immoral abuse of their expense accounts. I presume that they are all in training, so to speak, for this type of troughing that is common in the EU at all levels.
The role of a backbench MP is not much more than that of a less qualified CAB employee. They should be paid accordingly. They should get more for the legislative and standing Committees that they sit on. These should be appointed by the House, according to electoral balance and not by the Whips.
In other words, remove the gifts of the leadership and pay them so that the more they work the more they get paid.
What’s the difference between cleaning a flat and cleaning a moat ?
OK, one has the Hollywood factor and the other doesn’t.
But cleaning is cleaning,be it a flat, a moat or a pool.
They have all behaved outrageously. They should all repay our money and DC should sack the Tory offenders.
David Davies will be pretty pissed off this morning but just imagine if he had been the leader.
Come on Guido, we want to see the exes for Cooper n’Balls. Get to it.
Yeas definitely. I am getting a little frustrated by the lack of any info on the couple of Balls.
Another sleazy string puller in the background also needs exposing to some sunlight: Alastair “The Cheesegrin” Maclean.
Him and that Mr Speaker, thick as thieves they are….which funnily enough, they are.
DC has until lunchtime today to show that he’s taking things seriously enough to sack the hoons on his own side.
No-one in their right mind should think that swimming pool cleaning, gardening and chandaliers were reasonable or within the spirit of the rules, and Dave needs to show he’s serious by sacking them today.
Slightly o/t, but it seems Margaret Moron is going to pay her 3rd home in Southampton’s expenses back
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5311182/Margaret-Moran-to-pay-back-money-for-shared-home-MPs-expenses.html
Margaret Moran should go. She is one of the most blatent troughers and her explanation on the Politics Show was nothing short of criminal. By now agreeing to pay back she is desperately trying to hang on to her job – on Sunday she had no intention of paying back and put up a pathetic defence for her theft.
I think all these MPs who have been soaking the system should stand down at the next general election.
If there is ONE person who dererves to have the police all over them as a result of this scandal it is Margaret Moron.
Payinng it back should save her as much as a burglar returning the goods he was caught with red-handed should absolve him from further punishment.
She is obviously a fraud and deserves nothing less than jail for this..
Yeah she really is a giant, fat, pig-faced gutterslag.
I loved her interview though – what a fucking gem.
Does anyone know how any purchase that is provably “not entirely and strictly necessary” does not therefore constitute a breach of the rules, the argument that all claims are within rules is surely not solely based on interpretation.
It should be absolutely straightforward : ( I don’t get what the problem is?
No Guido he did NOT mean Libertas.
Thanks for passing on Norman’s advice. I had already made my mind up not to vote Tory in the Euro elections, so UKIP it is then.
LIBERTAS wants to stay IN the EU ! They’re NOT anti-EU, just a bloody nuisance party, and they’re Irish ! They’ll just split the vote – that might be their intention.
IN or OUT – take your pick!
The FT has a good article on MPs pay :
many other countries pay their MPs the same or less – Australia pay 7% less, France 5 % less, New Zealand 15% less & Spain an eye-watering 52%less.
Paying too much is a good way of attracting people who are only after the money.
As the Banks and Enron proved.
Tories are equally corrupt as Zanu.
Mugabe for leader
Not quite!
Close.
Hmmm … I thought that one aspect of a democracy is that we are told who we can vote for, not who we should or should not vote for.
On yer bike, oik.
Military dictarship now!!
Tebbit is a pathetic, attention-seeking nonentity, eaten up by resentment and jealousy.
He is a bitter and twisted creep who has been trying to undermine the Tory party for years.
But at least he outside the tent pissing in whereas Broon and chums are inside the tent pissing inside the tent.
I would be too if I realised what I could have claimed for all those years ago. I bet that he’s been paying for his own bath plugs and sundry garden products when he could have stockpiled enough to last him. It’s just not fair.
There’s Moran bleating about the need for family life and neccesary expenses and there is Norman and his good lady who really know the hardship of being in politics.
He didn’t run away and I respect him.
Seconded
Third.
Tebbit is a good guy in my books.
Forthed
Does anyone know if any of the raving monster lot are still about, maybe I can join them and keep my seat
BNP … Are they thankful that Polish people are available to do tricky jobs for us?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/4935429/BNP-uses-Polish-Spitfire-in-anti-immigration-poster.html
If you believe the Labourgraph you will believe anything.
I actually saw it on the news first, last night. Didnt mention Poland in any shape or form.
The image was actually released at a talk given by Nick Griffin thanking the Polish. The media gives a different angle. All M.S.M is the same, just varying degress of badness. Problem is, many people like yourself believe the crap that is served to you.
So there were no journalists at this “praise the polish” rally, or they are all lying. Have you got a link to details of how he thanks the Polish?
BTW: that plane didnt fly in the Battle of Britain you know.
Here’s a quote from the Mail, 4th March (again, the day after the BNP web site article).
A Royal Air Force museum spokesman said: ‘The Spitfire in the poster can be identified as belonging to 303 Squadron of the Polish Air Force by the code letters ‘RF’ painted in front of the RAF roundel.
‘303 Squadron operated Spitfires from Northolt, Kirton- in-Lindsey, Coltishall and other RAF stations in the UK between 1941 and 1945 after flying Hurricanes in the Battle of Britain.’
Do you see any similarities to the Telegraph? So who was the Telegraph reporter at the ‘praise the polish rally’ as you put it (there is no name on the piece)? Is it the same reporter as is working at the Mail? That certainly looks like plagiarism to me. Do you think, just maybe, that there weren’t any reporters from the Telegraph or the Mail there. What you fail to see is that they’re not reporting on the press conference at all. They’re reporting on the spitfire image. Technically I suppose they’re not lying but they still pulled the wool over your eyes.
Here’s a bit from wikipedia;
303 Squadron was the most effective Polish squadron during the Second World War
Again, any similarities to the Telegraph? Remarkable these ‘journalists’ that you seem to hold with such esteem.
Not sure what you meant about that plane not actually flying! It’s just an image used for a campaign you know.
For some reason the moderators here don’t like me telling you where to go to get ‘details of how he thanks the Polish’. And that post has been rejected.
I’ll try again in coded form, I suggest you go to the Bee eN P site and type in ‘polish spitfire’ you’ll get the article date March 3rd, the day before the Telegraph’s/Mail’s and every other ’scoop’ I’ve read (all the ones I found on google by the way were pretty much word for word the same).
Just heard Thursday is going to be Labour backbenchers day in the Telegraph.
Apparently the sleaze, greed, and blatant robbery is off the scale and makes everything so far pale into insignificance.
I wanna know when it’s gonna b Balls day.
Doesn’t surprise me.
What’s that turd Martin Salter been up to I wonder?
You’re joking – the BBC listed him yesterday as a prince amongst thieves!! The irony is beautiful.
Have a word with Jane Griffith’s re Salter’s ‘imaginitative’ claims for housing costs over the years.
Innocent abroad? One of the worst troughers, more like…!!
Nick to the G to the Bee En Pea get my vote.
I mean SPITTING BLOOD
oh, did I laugh.
The latest populus poll ondicates that the biggest winners from all this so far are the Lib Dems and the B NP.
That may change when Lib Dem sleaze is revealed in Wednesday’s Telegraph.
I recon the biggest winner is the telegraph, never in the field of human interest has so much greed been unearthed by so few. I bet that their sales are through the roof, not least from every MP frenziedly thumbing through the pages to see if their “clerical errors” and “within the rules but possibly not with the spirit” claims have been exposed. Personally I’ve always preferred my chips wrapped in the good ole tele, it gives them an air of superiority and beats the grubby taste of the red headed gossip rags hands down.
No reimbursement of expenses to anyone until each and every individual case is sorted by a ‘proper’ authority – HMRC may be useful in this so that there is no conflict between Commons ‘rules’ and national tax legislation.
Those who allowed these expenses through should be sacked now – complete incompetence – with nNO compensation.
If Brown means business he should expel Gorbals from the Labour Party – that should bring an end to his reign as Speaker.
Fuck Brown. He’s presided over this sleaze-fest for years and is up to his neck in it.We need a general election now.
Ugh! We will leave that to Sarah if you do not mind.
I cannot help wondering just how much of an excuse you all need to take matters into your own hands?
They know that they can get away with it because you are all so wet!
It always amuses me to see the middle classes squealing!
Did you not volunteer to pay for all this corruption?
We invented to net as a errm, yeah safety net. Its all about channeling anger away from the streets. he he he.
From Times Online.
The House of Commons Commission agreed last night to bring forward the official publication of MPs’ claims by a month to June. It also said that efforts to find the source of the leaked expenses had to intensify because of fears that confidential details about MPs might be passed to criminals.
If they take action against the person who put this information in the public domain they will have a bloody revolution on their hands within days.
How about the 25m that HMRC has already lost??
When will Ed and Yvette day be? I want to take the day off.
Sunday, along with Hain, Purnell and others. The Telegraph is saving the best (worst?) until last.
There will be no lubricant claim.
She is an avid fan of DRY BUMMING :)
Imagine that arsehole taking you up the arsehole !
Sky: Brown and the cabinet are in a crisis cabinet meeting. Panic?
Presumably they are having a meeting to discuss some global catastrophe or domestic cataclysm that requires their instant attention to prevent a global melt down…. Or is it more to do with saving their own stinking hoon hides? I bet that they pass a law super quick making it an offence to print anything nasty or embarrassing about any member of the Eurosocialisthoon party
I`m just waiting for another “convenient”" Terrorist scare involving students with incorrect visas.
“Where are your papers!!!” :D
Sod off Tebbit you ghastly relic, I have huge issues with the expenses shame but I will vote Conservative and even more likely to now your poisonous opinion is in the ring!
Yes, we demean ourselves by recognizing with a vote those who properly belong in prison, or the unmarked grave of capital crime.
Let’s see trials for war crimes, complicity in torture, fraud, and misconduct in public office before we legitimize any further ‘demomacries’ with our vote.
If candidates had to prove competence, honesty, knowledge, patriotism – few of our MP’s could have qualified; so the whole institution should be redesignated a jail and the public kept safe from these criminals.
I lent my vote to UKIP last time but never again.It has become Nigel Farage’s personal fiefdom and several of its Euro MPs have become troughers.Hope that you have a Libertas candidate in your area (unlikely) or hold your nose and vote Conservative.The bigger the anti-Labour vote the more likely to precipitate a GE
What a nasty, bitter, and hateful old fool Tebbit is. He has spent years trying to undermine every Tory leader.
He has even more sour grapes than that creep Portilo.
Can’t agree with you there – Portillo is surely the Whore of Babylon incarnate! I doubt if there has been a bigger one in politics since Profumo.
Profumo was not a whore of Babylon.
An honourable man.
This lot are not fit to lick his shoes.
Go figure out.
Criminals? Who are they calling criminals? the fucking scumbag hoons in Parliament are the criminals.
Are you censoring all mention of a party led by NG. If so why?
Because Guido is as politicall correct as the rest of them.
Will they still be censored when they have 2 or 3 Euro MPs and a couple of hundred councillors after the June elections?
That does seem likely, after all when the world is as corrupt as parliament and every one of the greedy twats is in the frame you need to look to someone, however unsavoury they may be, that haven’t as of yet been caught fleecing the tax payer. I’m voting for the shaved gerbil and plastic tube party.
You’re supposed to shave it?
Because by not giving him a mention he and they will just vanish, vooosh, lalala type magic. He and they just dont seem to be doing that.
Because it is a bad, bad, bad party, and voting for it will make you go blind. You can only be a true democrat if you vote for MSM approved parties only.
In what way will pulling out of Europe mean the UK is any less of a disaster? The place is fucked because of its own Govt not the Europeans. The UK on its own is doomed to follow whatever the big trading blocks decide with no say in the matter…..
Vote for whoever is best placed to beat any Labour incumbent.
NO vote for whoever will give us a referendum. Replacing Ero Brown with Euro Dave ain’t no solution.
If you don’t vote Tory you’ll get five more years of Brown.
That’s the only real choice we’ve got. Anything else is just wishful thinking and daydreaming.
For the sake of our poor, battered country, we have to get rid of Labour and all its works.The only way to do that is to vote Conservative.Like everyone else here, I hate the Tory sleaze as well as all the others but we must use our votes sensibly
That advertising splurge by Libertas on Message Space clearly paid dividends !!
What an intelligent and influential bunch your readers are ;-)
Libertas my arse. Here today, gone tomorrow.
Brown would love you to waste your vote on them.
Libertas are an EU shill. They want us to be “in Europe but not governed by Europe” sound familar? That’s right EU Dave’s baldy boy’s famous ‘anti’ EU stance. The Cons got us into the fucking EU via arse bandit Heath and they want us to stay in it. Fuck them, fuck Nu Labour and the green/limp dumps. UKIP is the one for me.
If I had dedicated my life to paying for this shit, lived as a servile taxpayer, stupid enough to believe that they were going to pay me a pension when I got old, I would, of course, feel very angy.
I would also feel very stupid!
Fuck Brown so hard that he and his crap party never raise their scumbag heads again.
That must be a sight.
Brown with full slap on, GayLord Mandelson mincing in, Phil Woolas in his best dress, Yyvette Balls in thigh length boots and Jacqui passing around the porn and bath plugs.
very nice indeed
How many butt, sorry bath, plugs does it take to change a cabinet?
Breaking News!!
KY Jelly shortage – Lord Manglebum of Gravy Train buys up Sainsburys stock of goose fat.
Yes, I did see it. The man was nothing short of a disgrace. He was there to defend his mate Mick and and he made himself a complete prick. His attitude is symptomatic of everything that is wrong with our ruling classes. He actually had the temerity to tell the BBC that they should be reporting more important matters and not trivia like this expenses scandal. A disgraceful exhibition.
I have to admit that the blonde bird really got stuck into him. But , is she actually worth £92k? I don’t know.
Oh and by the way Lord Foulkes when I went to school £92k is not twice as much as £64k. I don’t know how you became a lord, but it obviously wasn’t because of your mathematical ability.
Foulkes was an absolute arse. But if she’s worth 92k a year, i’m in the wrong trade.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8045414.stm
Foulkes video.
Foulkes is an embarrassing old washed up Labour hack who would be unemployable if it wasn’t for “jobs for the boys”.
He was the Opposition spokesperson for Defence from 1992-93. He lost that job after he pled guilty to a charge of assault and of being drunk and disorderly after spending a night in police custody. He’s frequently to be found “ruddy faced and ranting” and is very fond of foreign freebies at the Taxpayers expense. Ot to put it in “parliamentary speak”
Foulkes is very active on Caribbean matters. He serves as President of the Caribbean Britain Business Council, Chair of the Dominican Republic All-Party Parliamentary Group, Chair of the Belize All-Party Parliamentary Group, Vice Chair of the Trinidad and Tobago All-Party Parliamentary Group and Vice Chair of the British – Central America All-Party Parliamentary Group.
He’s laughably out of touch with the public and his boorish constant interrupting in that interview was symptomatic of a man who seems to enjoy a good “liquid” breakfast.
The Tories have committed to a referendum on the constitution and this is a major part of the European election campaign:
http://www.conservatives.com/Campaigns/Give_us_a_Referendum.aspx
Supporting UKIP will split the anti-government vote – just the recipe for keeping Labour in.
I always thought that Tebbit was honest and principled.
His wife was crippled in the Brighton bomb during the Tory conference, he was injured, and he continued to handle himself with dignity.
I think that he is a far better man than anonymous, not least because he made it clear who he was when he made his comment.
Seconded
Never been caught doing anything dishonourable or illegal, always spoken his mind. Not many of his stature in Parliament now.
The Penguin
I`ll believe it when I see it,
They might have a few more days of conservative backbenchers.
“Backbenchers in large houses” (rather than castles) I’d have thought for wednesday.
Indeed he does. He is basically undermining Cameron, not for the benefit of UKIP or the anti-europe cause, but the benefit of the Tory Grandees like Winterton, Home etc.
With all due respect to His Lordship, who takes any notice of him anymore? Ordinary voters? Probably not..
And he was doing this at the Newbury By-election in 1993 for Alan Sked!
Sh*t or get off the Pot Norman.
Ukip or Conservative ? You can’t be both.
Stuart Wheeler was booted out for the same kind of disloyalty.
You simply can’t ask the Voter to vote for a different Party to the one you claim to belong to and expect to get away with it ?
Call me Dave can’t let this stand or he will look patheticaly weak.
Tebbit? Who he? He left the Commons in 1992, FFS.
Half the electorate won’t even know who is the current Business Secretary, let alone know or be inclined to listen to Tebbit who held the same role (then Trade and Industry) back in 1983.
Isaby on ConHome calling for Cameron to expel him – that would be just what he wants the attention seeking dinosaur.
Tribalist conservatives are every bit as repulsive as tribalist socialists.
The tory party has a long and rather shameful record with regard to the EU, that is not mitigated by Thatcher and Majors ultimately futile attempts to limit the impact and loss of sovereign rights, freedoms and traditions for the UK.
The EU is unreformable, it has an inbuilt “creep” that grinds away relentlessly at any unconquered liberty, laws or non-harmonised activity.
The Tories will never be able to reform, recind or even challenge any EU directive ( less offensive word to describe order ) from our real, unelected and unremovable Government in a foreign country.
They can pretend all they want, just like they pretend they are honourable ( a sick sham ), that they have a significantly different agenda than ZanuLabour ( they dont ) or that they are Eurosceptic ( an outright lie ).
The fact is a significant number of people have seen through the political class and their unending lies and want real change.
That is something that call me Dave can not deliver.
The question of how to reclaim the power successive parliaments have ceded to Brussels is too important to allwo little questions of party to merit consideration. If the two main parties hadn’t sold the pass to the EU – against what they know is the wish of the British people (certainly the English) Tebbitt wouldn’t feel constrained to speak out, It’s almost too late now – but if enough people do speak out – and act – disaster may be averted, and we may still have a nation state and a parliament worh the name.
And I’m not some little Englander – I’ve lived and farmed in three countries in Europe – Spain France and Italy . They play by different rules, and we would be far better off in every way leaving them to it, and running our own fishing policy, agricultural policy, energy policy, waste policy, and above all our own immigration policy.
I second the advice to subscribe to the Open Europe newsfeed – it will open the eyes of many
But in France MPs often have seats in local and/or provincialgovernment as well, so much so that their parliament is often half empty. A scandal called the “cumul des mandats”.
Half-empty? Ours is seldom that full. Look at the photos in the Paul Waugh link.
And ours isn’t? Follow the link “MPs priorities” to see pics of the Mother of parliaments.
He just looks greedy, you can almost see the grease and gravy oozing from his mangy hide as he sweatily testiculates to the house. Fat greedy cnut. And he’s a fucking jockwegian cnut as well, yet another one presiding over the nation.
yes norman I will vote for what you say!
Never truer word written.
The useless Batman and Robin have not a clue.
God help us all
He’s worse than the muppets with their snouts in the trough – he hasn’t got the balls to come out and say vote UKIP because he knows he would be sacked from the Tory party if he did.
So he speaks in innuendos because, unlike me, he hasn’t got the balls.
Guido – your new quest should be to find an honest politician.
Don Quixote will ride again. An attack on wind-turbines could be just the thing first though!
I recon Yvette will squeal like she’s been bummed (which gets me thinking that wouldn’t it be great if she’s inadvertantly claimed for a butt plug and lubricant gel?). actually it’s more likely that Ed will be the lubricant claimer.
Be very careful plebs, if we ever feel that we have nothing left to loose then I will give the order to Baxter labs
“release the virus now. Destroy zem, DESTROY ZEM ALL.”
New headline in the SUN
Apparently Dave has gone to Westminster early with the intention of withdrawing the Whip from a few of his miscreants. I do hope its true.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2424448.ece
They should be put in stocks in Parliament Square, entrance requirements are bring your own Veg and stones.
“fears that confidential details about MPs might be passed to criminals. ”
They ARE the fucking criminals. Hoons to a man and woman.
Now let me see, criminals details being given to other criminals. Is that insider trading?
Its anold Maf, er, Costa Nostra saying “It is better to own a bank than to rob one”
Even better to do both.
I suppose this is in some way different to our details potentially being given to criminals every time some toss-pot government department loses another bloody disc or computer containing our info.
Well of course it is; MPs are not as we other mortals.
An interesting idea. And one I might put inot practice myself. But when was the last time anyone took Tebbit seriously? I mean really seriously?
Meanwhile That’s News morning update. Predicts more tears before bedtime
I didn’t need Tebbit to tell me what to do. I had already decided to vote Conservative in the local elections as the alternative (LibDem) are too awful to contemplate but I will vote UKIP in the European elections to try and oust our sitting Tory member.
As someone else has said, UKIP aren’t exactly blameless on the expenses front either.
‘Hold your nose’, vote Conservative to get rid of Brown which would be what the country needs most of all. Brown would love it if Tory voters supported a minor party.
Don’t know why the Telegraph continues with this.
The ” MOST VIEWED ” list shows No1 as the Peter and Jordon split
Vote Libertas, its simple.
The crowd in power are corrupt, we know it, everybody knows it, lets clean up starting in europe.
We are new and without any baggage, lets make a new start.
Vote Libertas.
er… how about NO ?
Libertas may well become a force for good in the future but they need much more time, and money, to get there.The priority for our country meanwhile, is to get rid of Brown and socialism, for the sake of our country
Libertas to clean up Europe? Don’t make me laugh. They may have good intentions but will be as much use as a fart in a colander when lined up against the Euromonsters.
Only a mainstream party can get us out of the European nightmare and the most likely is the Conservatives. There are a lot them who would like to atone to the people of this country for what that bastard Heath did back in the Seventies.
With a massive majority in the next government they might just do it – and cut off Scotland at the same time.
69 seats max ,that all the cons can do, over 700 seats in the E.U. parliament.
No can do, we need a european party to compete.
Libertas is the business, go Libertas.
Libertas – who? Just a one issue, protest party that came out of the Irish referendum. The average voter will never have heard of them, and again risks splitting the anti-Labour vote.
If the Irish obey their masters with a yes vote in their re-referendum, Libertas crdibility will be fucked.
Just seen Dave on the TV being asked about latests claims. ‘Says he is going to deal with it.’ Let’s hope he chops some heads off – that should gain him the high ground because Gordon will never be able to make up is mind to act.
Looks like he might just do it !
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2424448.ece
If Gordon was living in his brother’s flat and it takes a wild stretch of the imagination to see how he was when living at 11 Downing street with his wife and sprogs. Isn’t that much the same as Jacqui living with her sister?
Is Enoch Powell still alive?
No but his DNA is being stored in Jack Boots database.
The BBC is just loving this Tebbit story as it gives them a chance to split the conservative vote – one of the few glimmers of hope to Brown – don’t fall for it.
Time for some detailed analysis:
Labour – very corrupt incompetent authoritarian morons
B NP – corrupt racist morons
UKIP – corrupt crypto-racists on an ego trip
LibDems – probably least corrupt, but who fucking cares
PC, SNP – corrupt small town morons
Conservatives – somewhat corrupt
Now make up your own minds.
“Conservatives – somewhat corrupt”
You have seen the news? CMD’s party has just had a corruption Tsunami.
At least UKIP publish and audit ALL their Euro expenses.
Except the ones they don’t
The amounts of money are nowhere near what the Labour troughers have been claiming, and nowhere near the amount of serial flipping.
Tory troughing isn’t right, but neither is it endemic to the culture of the party in the way that is with Labour.
Voting Conservative is the ONLY way to put more pressure on Brown. If Dave rises to this challenge, a BIG ‘IF’, then he will deserve the support of everyone who wants to get rid of the labour scum.
Yes, but you know what to do Vote Libertas, if you want a clean party.
Stick with the upcoming second Irish vote on the Lisbon Treaty.
Mail reports Brown seeing the Queen this PM (wicked of me to start with that statement – sorry just a routine visit!). Can you e-mail the queen and if so should we not all do so asap demanding that she deal with what is now a crisi in her government?
Mail reports Brown seeing the Queen this PM
mandelson?
How can anyone vote negative for either UKIP or the BNP, its a wasted vote, we are all europeans, we all know that, look at the map, how can we seriously say we want to be something else.
If you want to be closer to our friends in Holland or Italy vote for Libertas, if you want to be closer to our friends in Denmark or Germany, vote Libertas.
You know it makes sense.
Yeah, Tebbit can speak out about expenses because I bet his expenses claims in the 80s were whiter than white….
Incidentally, Cameron should throw him out.
I haven’t heard good old Billy Bragg recently, doesn’t he normally show up just before elections to wax lyrical about NuLabour and urge the voter to either a)vote NuLabour, or b) vote for the NuLabour B team (LibDemons). Maybe this time he’ll urge the masses to vote for those other parties on the periphery of the democratic system…anything to keep the evil Tories out etc, after all they are full of greed and sleaze etc etc.
I believe the BBC has a radio car & 4 lacky’s on permanent stand by on Billy’s Braggs opulent Dorset estate, just in case…….
Not another bolinger Bolshevik…… a socialist with buckets full of cash…. Sounds a bit like Nu labour once you get beneath the skin
I would love to be a socialist, but I just cannot afford it.
“pontificating on a South London council estate when we all know he lives in a lovely big house in West Dorset”.
Labour need a hard hitter of working class background like the great Ben Elton.
Hang on … vote for the other parties….Maybe Norm Tebbs and Billy Bragg are in fact one and the same, two facets of the same personality, one side a right wing politician and the other side a complete tosser with no fucking clue.
Unless there is more to come about the Testicle twins (where’s the proof?) could it be that the Tories will suffer the most from this?
The recency effect, swimming pools, butlers and chandeliers could play more badly with the electorate than tampons and bog seats.
Plus, of course, they have got their fellow travellers at The BBC to make the most of moats and tennis courts.
I’ve never voted LibDem but I will this time. I am absolutely disgusted. This stinks: absolutely stinks.
And as for that pillock of a Speaker – what a disgrace to his Office.
I think you better wait til you see what the LibDumbs have been up to
I think Tebby means “vote monster raving looney”. The most honest party of the lot.
The only bloke who ever entered Parliament with the best of intentions, was Guido Fawkes the first.
(Almost) anything but Europe….a £1billion per week to be members of a ‘club’ that takes but never gives – apart from fascist dictats.
We can be Eurosceptic all our lives – it doesn’t mean we ever intend to leave……..of course, in reality, leaving is not an option, or so we’re meant to believe.
WE have to MAKE leaving the EU the only option.
Failing that – as the UK “parliament” will be completely redundant soon anyway in favour of rule from Brussels/Strasbourg, let’s stop wasting a few billion sooner rather than later and make all MP’s and allied ’staff’ redundant now and merely turn the HofP into a secure unit for troughers? Minimum redundancy packages of course – minus the expense scams that should be repaid to we the people.
Or we could elect REAL people who only have the best interests of all of humanity at heart – don’t believe the ongoing villification of humanity – there are many such people ready, willing and able to REALLY “do the right thing”.
Yes
Read his autobiog, Upwardly Mobile, last year; a top man, and much misunderstood by most people. The Chingford Skinhead he is not.
A man with principles, consistent beliefs and backbone. Most definitely not a shallow PR construct, like some current, chinless TorwyBoys.
I admired Norm even before reading ‘Upwardly Mobile’. I wish they still made them like that.
Why did the DT publish this lie as a headline?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/5308036/House-prices-in-Britain-rise-for-first-time-in-18-months.html
The headline is disingenuous to say the least.In the small print it reveals that only 59% of estate agents are reporting falls in prices as opposed to 72% a year earlier.Translation= prices are continuing to fall but at a lesser rate
So they could contradict themselves in the first paragraph of the article.
All newspapers do it. Only the headlines are read in Brown’s Britain innit.
Home News Top Stories My dad asked thugs to be quiet – and he paid with his life when mob beat him with a brick
Whilst the lawmakers fill their Boots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When are the public going to get off their ar ses and MARCH on London to remove these parasites from our society ?
(1) They milk us for all we are worth
(2) They don’t represent our views (hanging, EU Referendum, Gurkha’s) to name a few
(3) They have dismantled the GREAY from Great Britain
(4) This country is a free handout haven to the worst scum from all corners of the world.
WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH !
Don, I take it you live in or near London. For some of us, no matter how strongly we feel, a 250-mile hike to The Smoke is not realistic. Heavy traffic, permissions needed from cops, modern life styles re family & kids & work; age, infirmity, etc. mean a Jarrow-style march is not really on.
Now, a series of co-ordinated, local demos./marches would be different (and probably less chance of being duffed up by provincial cops).
Bank Holiday coming up!
Ok boys lets all be good from now on ok!
The euro elections are what controls our mind, yes.
So we will win them wont we, you useless tools.
Or perhaps we will let a new party win, people who share my vision of renewall, and change, yes lets support Libertas, they know the way.
At last, it had to happen even Polly has turned on her masters!
Gordon Brown Must Go!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/11/labour-gordon-brown
Polly does so many flips – I doubt she knows whether she is coming or going.
Next month it will back to Brown with a clothes peg guiding her clit.
Richard Littlejohn makes a good comparison of Lawmakers v Citizens.
Mother lies about address in order to get her child into best school. State wants to bang mother up for 12 months and leave her child motherless.
Government ministers lie about address in order to claim expenses. State pays the ministers’ expenses.
If anyone is to be jailed for giving a false address…
Im sure DC will be happy to get rid of Michael Ancram, who helpfully put the boot into Cameron during Brown’s ‘honeymoon’
Guido what’s going on with moderation? I said: “Half-empty? Ours is seldom that full. Look at the photos in the Paul Waugh link” and it gets moderated, but you let the stream of filth from TaT through.
Have decided who I will vote for B N P, reason we need a message sent to this corrupt lot and I think it’s the only way they will listen,3 or more meps will put the EU in panic as it’s the nutters from Britian,this crowd of corrupt thieves in the HOC it sends them a message we are totaly peed off with them and are prepared for serious change,damage will be lots of brown underkcks,it’s the warning we need to send them,as far as I am concerned the EU elections is a non vote vote as it’s the commisars who make the laws,so nothing lost
+1
+2
Please no,
the BNP
reprensent the worst possilbe side of the british people,dont do it.\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\1
You need to get out more. And when you are inside, learn how to use a keyboard.
All the great work by the Telegraph on expenses and Guido on smeargate should not prevent them from tracking postal votes at elections – it will be the next big scandal.
Any Euro candidate who wants to win should put in writing and shout from the rooftops that they’ll fight tooth and nail to ensure that Tony Blair will never ever get anywhere near the Presidency.
One day a florist goes to a barber for a haircut. After the cut he asked about his bill and the barber replies, ‘I cannot accept money from you. I’m doing community service this week.’ The florist was pleased and left the shop. When the barber goes to open his shop the next morning there is a ‘thank you’ card and a dozen roses waiting for him on his doorstep.
Later, a policeman comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill, the barber again replies, ‘I cannot accept money from you. I’m doing community service this week.’ The cop is happy and leaves the shop. The next morning when the barber goes to open up there is a ‘thank you’ card and a dozen donuts waiting for him on his doorstep.
Later that day, a college professor comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill, the barber again replies, ‘I cannot accept money from you. I’m doing community service this week.’ The professor is very happy and leaves the shop. The next morning when the barber opens his shop, there is a ‘thank you’ card and a dozen different books, such as ‘How to Improve Your Business’ and ‘Becoming More Successful.’
Then, a Member of Parliament comes in for a haircut, and when he goes to pay his bill the barber again replies, ‘I cannot accept money from you. I’m doing community service this week.’ The Member of Parliament is very happy and leaves the shop. The next morning when the barber goes to open up, there are a dozen Members of Parliament lined up waiting for a free haircut.
And they also insisted on taking away a wadge of blank receipts
They would probably take along their children, wives, mistresses and even the family labrador!
The MP is not that bothered, but asks if he can have a receipt to claim on expenses anyway.
comment posted 9:16, still awaiting moderation!!!! WTF, who is your moderator Guido, “stall em” Gorbals Mick?
Why is this even moderated? Involvement surely only needed with evidence of abuse.
Same problem. Innocent remark about emptiness of HofC for some reason being moderated.
I’ve had this. Could be just one word. Try and say the same with different keywords
Moderation seems to be fairly arbitrary and not necessarily related to content. I was awaiting moderation last night for hours – the subject was censorship!
The pre-moderation seems to be off now, coments appearing in pretty much real time.
There’s a list of things that seems to trip the normal moderation, the 3 obvious ones are the word cnut spelled properly, the B N P all as one word and having more than one link in your post.
There’s a few other rules as well, designed I’m sure to keep Guido out of court, especially at a time like this with Gorbals trying to get the police involved!
And no, I’m not a mod, but I’ll let you know how long this post takes to appear!! 10:31 now.
2 minutes, and no editing of it – seems reasonable enough to me.
Big up to Guido, is there a way we can donate to your obviously increasing bandwidth bills??
Yes it will. He’s only agreeing with a decision many Party members had already made.Bring on the minority set they can’t be any worse than the current Euro shower,
When are the public going to get off their ar ses and MARCH on London to remove these parasites from our society ?
(1) They milk us for all we are worth
(2) They don’t represent our views (hanging, EU Referendum, Gurkha’s) to name a few
(3) They have dismantled the GREAT from Great Britain
(4) This country is a free handout haven to the worst scum from all corners of the world.
WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH !
March? On yer bike
Agree with the march on London – let’s see what the latest score is on the demonstration ban for paliamentary square.
And if you’re really Don King, you can organise a couple of guys who are handy with their fists – desperately needed!
Did you see the effect that the demo ban had on the Tamils yesterday??
235 above
There’s no point in marching to Parliament unless you’re non-white illegal immigrants. Anyone else will be beaten and brutalised.
Carswell’s site reports
UPDATE: Table Office has just approved some text for a suitable motion.
By the way, what’s the latest on Brown’s tax returns? Has he declared the rental income from his contituency office when he was subletting it? We already know it was against the rules to sublet the office.
Many have mentioned it before: “no ifs, no buts”!
What’s all the fussing about? I trousered thousands and thousands and have they removed the whip from me yet? Fuck they have.
That would be racist innit.
And I’ve just got away with it by saying I’ll pay it back. Great system, fucking love it!
Dear Baroness,
Perhaps you could look at this perplexing lack of action from your party leadership in a different way? How about considering your personal integrity and honesty to have been shown to be none existent? How about showing some sort of shame and humility over your money-grabbing behaviour? How about taking matters into your own hands (I believe you consider yourself a “community leader” in Tower Hamlets, if not in Maidstone yet). Think about it, you could just pay back the money, sell the flat, and resign from both the Government and the Housing Association that your family seem to run?
With one simple set of moves like this, you could go away, keep quiet, and may be get a nice little job as volounteer somewhere once you had served your rehabilitation time (say, 10 years).
If you stay, you and your family will be laughed at and ridiculed for the rest of your days – especially when you are sent to prison. The choice is yours.
Regards
If she was honest or decent or even civilised she wouldn’t be in the Labour party.
I’d say vote for none of the above. But someone would get in on a minority, and the no vote thing would only work if not one voter used his or her vote, and that’s not going to happen. So…
Despite trepidation, and the flaw in the don’t vote idea, I have to agree with Tebbit.
SPEED UP THE MODERATION YOU NUMPTY !!!
There is a growing revolt in the nation & it cant wait for you to read every phooking message.
Seconded
A furious DC on Sky news now, I’m not sure I’d want to be one of his hoons today, he described them as “out of order” and having to explain themselves
Please PLEASE PLEASE Dave, finally take this seriously. Do you not realise that the court of public opinion is expecting you to deal with this, and that if you fail to take action you are as culpable as the cnut Broon…?
Well, if he doesn’t grab this opportunity, he’s not going to win the next election.
The problem is, he disciplines half his party, they’ll rebel on him and choose some f*cked up has-been like Tebbit or one of his clones to lead the party.
Mind you, it could be the electorate’s lucky year – the death knell for the Tories and Labour in one fell swoop.
There would be rejoicing nationwide.
Don’t ever kid yourself that the Tories are any better than Labour. Sure, their economic outlook is preferable, but they are as venal and corrupt as Labour.
Why are we only getting 5 years of info? I have always questioned how the likes of Lord Handlebums and Bliar could afford to buy such outrageously priced property on public servant salaries – and so quickly. The truth is out there and I’ll bet the taxman never saw it. Spill the beans.
Many, like Blair, get paid AFTER leaving politics – for services rendered while in power. All legit. Book advances, grossly overpaid speaking engagements, consultancy etc, etc.
It’s their 30 pieces of EU silver.
What the fuck does Blair’s speeches and faith shit have to do with the EU?
God, it’s like dementia isn’t it…..mention the EU and out come all the fucking relics wanting us to rebuild our empire and somehow become a global power again.
Wake the fuck up, you stupid Tory has beens.
What the hell do:
book advances
speaking engagements
consultancy work
faith foundation
have to do with the EU?
One day you’ll wake up, and notice we do not have an empire from which to “source” our resources anymore.
You’ll notice that we are not independent, even out of the EU. We do what America, and ultimately Israel, wants us to do.
If you’d prefer that over a partnership with our fellow Europeans, then your opinion is not worth listening to.
Wake up you f*cking Tory has beens.
Look Willie I cant stand any more of this shiily shallying around make it happen and make it happen now. Make this expense thing go away, its nothing to do with us.
That oderous Brown is the issue, the smell is horrendous,one cant stand it.
Hey guys
Lets have debate about Europe, we all know this is where our future lies. dont we.
Yes our future does lie with Europe.
A say in the direction of the EU is much better than no say following the direction of American and Israeli interests.
Shut up you fucking gimp, stop saying “and israeli” everytime you mention the fucking US, we are not fucking governed by Israel, any more than America is.
America views israel as a convenient and (some might say) essential “friendly state” in the Mid-East, it’s a mutually beneficial relationship.
Stop reading the fucking conspiracy theories, as I must say, you do appear to be frighteningly similar in your endless blatherings as those you scathingly criticise.
: )
I’m also puzzled as to whom you intend to vote for, a paranoid anti-semite conspiracy theorist whom, paradoxically, is drawn towards the EU.
“Lord Tebbit did say that he would urge the public not to support the ’socialist’ British National Party, which he described as ‘Labour with racism’.”
MPs’ EXPENSES: Lord Tebbit defies Tories to tell voters: ‘Don’t vote for ANY party in European elections’
And why, precisely, should I give a fuck what Tebbit says?
The man is an utter hoon.
The logical choice for Europe is the only choice, Libertas.eu.
We have already put the EU on notice that democracy, accountability and transparency will be returned to the EU and it’s institutions.
There are those that claim Libertas policies are too vague, they cannot be anything other than vague.
It’s like taking your car or TV to be mended, you and the engineer both know it is broken but he cannot say what he is going to do without looking thoroughly at the problem.
It is the same with the EU we all know it is broken, but we need to look carefully at everything before we can mend it.
Some things of course are obvious like the corruption of MEP’s of all parties, go to http://www.libertas.eu and click on blogs, go to the video “just how dishonest are our MEP’s” have a good laugh and then realise this is just the tip of the iceberg. As for UKIP they claim to want us out of Europe but are not averse to enriching themselves while in it, most are signed up to the contraversial second pension scheme as are the majority of labour and tories. BNP are just too racist, we are a multicultural society not only in the UK but all over the world.
Agreed, Libertas will get my vote.
At least they have something to offer other than nihilism and more of the same.
The fact that anyone can take a party of has beens like UKIP seriously says a lot about the bigots in this country who still think we’re better than other Europeans.
Remember it was the communist Soviet Union who saved us from Nazi tyranny. It wasn’t the plucky Brits, who had effectively given up by 1940. Nor was it the Americans who we couldn’t persuade to help us, and even charged us for the privilege of their assistance.
And yet we have UKIP and all the other anti-EU oddjobs here suggesting our future lies with America, or as a tiny indepedent nation.
Who will save us from the next war? America? You think so?
Who was the first to join us in declaring war on Germany? yes, that’s right….France.
We are in Europe. Our interests lie in Europe. And our interests as a nation should be focused on cleaning up the EU and reforming it, not abandoning it.
If you are going to discuss history as justification for being in the EU then at least understand it. The French surrendered (as usual) at the first sign of difficulty, the Belgians did the same, in their case without warning, leaving the beleagured British army scrambling to get back to the safety of Blighty so that they could carry on fighting. (Given up by 1940? never heard about North Africa, Malta?) The Germans, the Austrians and, once they thought it was safe, the Italians, were all on the other side. Not too much there to inspire confidence in Europe! If you want to know who really stood staunchly at our side in time of peril (not for the first time) it was our real friends and family – Australia, Canada, New Zealand etc. Let’s join up with them instead. We could call it a Commonwealth!
Ever heard of the Molotov- Ribbentrop pact? Hitler attacked Russia June 1941. Stalin would have been quite happy to let Hitler keep his conquests.
I think we had been at war for a little while by then. Get your facts straight
As an unreconstructed left-wing anarchist I always had a soft spot for Tebbitt because of the fundamental honesty and decency of the man. This is sound advice for anyone who has the stomach to vote at all.
Just remember this….if you don’t vote then you can’t complain.
This is why we need a “non of the above” box.
I will be voting for Nicks boys. Britain first.
What? are you some sort of inbred socialist or something? Although strongly support independence from the EU, I can never vote for the national socialists. Cast a wise vote, not an angry one.
And a wise vote is a vote for UKIP is it?
What a tool.
A wise vote for UKIP?
You joker, you.
A party governed by a visceral hatred and distrust of fellow Europeans. What is their plan for how we are to compete with India and China over the next century?
Close the borders and hope our Britishness will see us through?
Our future is in political union with Europe, we just need to reform the EU.
A bad implementation of a good idea does not warrant abandoning the idea itself.
A wise vote for UKIP?
Get a grip. We are a pathetic little nation that cannot compete on the world stage anymore.
We need to be part of a larger political entity, in order to be able to compete with India and China – our future is pretty bleak otherwise, as we produce little of any real value, and finance will be heading elsewhere over the next few years.
The EU is broken, corrupt and in desperate need of reform. This does not, however, mean the EU is a bad concept.
Unless, of course, you distrust Johnny Foreigner.
Quite simple I am totally fucked off with Britain and it’s peoples being ripped off by foriegn MP’s and our own MP’s.
I am going to use my democratic right to vote for a party that will put our own country first.
I don’t want this to be watered down in any way shape or form…….so my vote is for NG and his party.
Found some stuff on the Jury Team and UKIP on this website profiling all the candidates http://www.micandidate.co.uk/party.aspx?idparty=20
For those in Scotland vote SNP. Also why can’t Westminster just adopt the Scottish parliament’s expenses system? Not enough wriggle room?
Well, all the Scottish MSPs who are also MPs are just milking their Westminster expenses.
So it’s a bit hypocritical to hear them crowing about how moral they are. The only reason they’re not doing it in Holyrood is they’re not allowed to.
Don’t the tribal tories just make you sick! Jumping up and down with glee when those troughing labour scumbags are caught with their hands in the till but quick to circle the wagons when the stone is overturned and their lot start scurrying around in the daylight.
Tebbit’s right – don’t waste your vote on any of these lowlifes from the mainstream parties. Its the only way to stop them shitting in our faces. That and maybe culling them!
I predict that the turnout for the Euro elections will be something shy of 40%.
So who, apart from a shrinking number of people addicted to politics, will give a shit what Tebbit says?
A Squadron of my Household Cavalry has been ordered to the Palace of Westminster, to escort those miscreants to the Tower of London – where they will await the refurbishment of Traitors Gate.
This interweb thingy is good, isn’t it Charles. I can speak to my people directly.
It’s a troop, not a squadron, Mother.
May I remind you Mam. There is still an operational death cell in the dockyard at Devonport. It use to be checked every month. With a sandbag of course.
South yard, near the old timber yard. Ask the naval Provost.
Good of Tebbit to admit the Tories are no-hopers for reforming the EU or Westminster.
No one can seriously be thinking of voting for UKIP. What a waste of money – they have done nothing to reform the EU, yet have their snouts well and truly in the Brussels trough. Ashley Mote, Tom Wise, etc, etc…
It seems as though Libertas are the only option. At least they have actually done something and they are already pledging more disclosure on expenses than the rest.
http://www.libertas.eu/uk
VOTE LIBERTAS – the only party that can force radical reform of the EU. The strategy is great and long overdue – stand for as many seats in as many countries as possible and take over the only democratically elected EU institution, the Parliament. Then block all legislation until the reforms are made.
Seconded.
” radical reform of the EU ” How ? The structures are set by international treaties
Well done. The first pan-European party. Therefore the first to get central funding from the boys. Good move, lots of Euros and lots of expenses. Shucks will be so pleased.
Jeez – is Draper moderating this site ? A mild comment about MP’s shitting in our faces disappears into the ether! maybe the rumours about this site being a front for Ashcroft may carry some weight.
Libertas?
Why on earth would a Eurosceptic vote for them?
Tebbit obviuosly has not examined the greedy habits of our minority parties at the EU trough!
If he had, he would realise that UKIP is renowned for being among the greediest!
Tebbit should have the Tory whip withdrawn
Tebbit is a slimeball and I wouldn’t waste my breath on anything he says. Yes, he should have the whip withdrawn.
Dear old embittered Tebbit, as reactionary as Michael Martin and just as stupid. Blair and co encouraged the development of an obscene culture of greed and it is the Cabinet Ministers who are the worst offenders. Encouraging any public to vote for lunatic fringe minority parties and give the benefits to the Lib Dems is as disloyal to his party as it is a waste of an opportunity to rid ourselves of this disastrous clapped out Government. Only the BBC and left wing media would give Tebbit the time to inflict this sort of damage and air this nonsense. Tebbit has let down his generation by his ill conceived remarks and should apologise to Cameron and hang his head in shame.
am i fecking stupid or is this all smoke and mirrors as all this in fighting and deep division really covers well the fact that all the main three have run out of ideas and are not putting forward policies but hoping to be voted in as being not as bad as the others
Hey lets do a bigger version of the jury and go MP IDOL come on down simon cowell and lets have clarkson as a judge
jeremey that is
jeremy that is
THE APATHETIQK VOTER IS IN THE ASCENDANTCy
If you vote Con, Lib, UKIP or Libertas, or if you don’t vote at all, you might as well vote Lab and be done with it.
Roll over, like you always do, and let them tickle your belly for a little while longer before they finally slit your throat.
You’re excess to globalist requirements. Haven’t you noticed the new kids, and their kids, on the block?
And if Guido wants to moderate this post, well there’s plenty of puerile, lavatorial language above from which he can sift suggestions as to what he can do with himself.
Why vote Libertas? More pro-EU bullshittery. Lib/Lab/Con/Libertas, no difference. The choice is EU or not-EU, and I say, balls to the EU.
Reform? Its unreformable, and besides, Charlie I, Louis, Napoleon, Kaiser Bill, the Fuhrer – you don’t ‘reform’ tyrants, you get rid of them.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, EITF.
It hasn’t been “poorly implemented” at all. It’s been damn-near perfectly implemented. This corrupt, undemocratic, supranational leviathan is exactly what was intended from the very start.
You may see the EU as a failing, corrupt, attempt to create a democratic United States of Europe, much like the USA. And you would be dead wrong. The intention always was much closer to a United State of Europe, singular, and democracy was emphatically not to be a part of it. It was an idea born out of the Age of Dictators, and the most charitable interpretation is that it was an attempt to create a benign “dictatorship of the Commission”. The parliament, or “assembly”, was always intended to be what it is: a toothless sop to public opinion.
That’s why Britain “walked out” of the Messina conference. It’s why, along with other northern European countries, we set up EFTA, which has no ambitions towards political union. Those ambitions, and the deliberate suppression of national democracy, have been absolutely central to the pan-European movement since at least the 1920s.
You ain’t about to “reform” them now.
Don’t waste your votes by voting UKIP, B.N.P. Libertas or any of the 3 main parties.
There is only one real alternative party and that is the Jury Team.
Neither Libertas or UKIP can make any real difference and the other lot are way too extreme but by supporting the Jury Team in the Euro elections and in the next general election, you have a real chance to change the system.
As for the European debate itself, the quicker we withdraw from Europe the better. The British have been lied to and conned from start to finish, as far as the E.U./common market is concerned. It’s about time that the public were given a say on the matter. Nobody under 50 years of age has ever been given an opportunity to vote on the E.U. I wonder why that is?
( Btw, for our little conspiracy theorist, have you never read about the 4th Reich? Check it out fella, it’ll make you go w00t! ;-) )
Anyway keep up the good work Guido, you are doing a fine job. Incidentally what can you dig up on Stuart Bell?