Alan Duncan is Stretching Things
Alan Duncan is going round telling broadcasters that he was the first MP to publish his receipts online and has always supported transparency. Go to his website and there is nothing published there about his expenses.
Eh? Guido called his office for an explanation. Tory HQ calls back with a load of waffle. He did, but he doesn’t now, it was published on an old website blah, blah, blah. When we get down to it, and Guido is reasonably certain about this, Alan Duncan did not publish his receipts for expenses. He merely published the annual totals. The same unrevealing annual expenditure totals published by the Fees Office for the last five years. So we didn’t discover from his “transparency” anything we can’t now get from the parliamentary website. Spin and bluster…
UPDATE : According to this archive Alan told us:
Additional Costs Allowance – Expenses Incurred by Staying in London
In line with parliamentary allowances, Alan claims £19,722 per year to cover the costs of maintaining a second home.
Not very informative or transparent is it?
Wasn’t it Ben Wallace up in Lancaster & Wyre who was the first MP to publish his expenses online?
They all need to listen to this: the PAY IT BACK campaign. Either pay back your expenses, or justify personally why you don’t feel you should. No more hiding behind Gordon, or the Speaker, or the rules.
NO!
Paying it back sounds too much like a way of them getting out of this. Investigate. Prosecute. Tax them all on benefits in kind going back the maximum years (is it seven?). Independently examin each MP’s affairs & non-politicians to judge whether they are fit to hold office.
Then stop them ever controlling their own affairs again.
If it’s a profession, as they claim, run it properly.
NO compromise.
no shoot em up the arse and ask if they like getting fucked
hey lets all e-mail duncan and ask lol duncana@parliament.uk
eh? spin and bluster?
nah, alan duncan’s just a lying c’unt.
innit!
Alan Duncan is the very oily Tory who manages to combine the talents of Peter Hain and Keith Vaz at the same time. Definitely need to wash your hands after meeting that one.
They should sack that pecan coloured Hoon.
Guido,
eh? spin and bluster?
nah, alan duncan’s just a lying c’unt.
and isn’t she looking old!
the silly old fraudster.
yeah yeah, I just made myself look like a right c’unt. no-one else seems able to.
it is running a bit slow tonight though.
the spastics must be coming!
So they say
Makes very little odds wether he was first or not. He, along with many others, has still ripped off the taxpayer. The taxpayer is not impressed.
Okay..okay..so I used Gordon Brown’s cleaner to clean my website…all above the iron board..
I think he’d do better to just hand himself in at the nearest polcie station
I’m flipping innocent!
Disingenous bastard ??
OR
Mendacious shit ??
You be the judge….
The Court of Public Opinion finds the accused guilty of all charges.
nah, alan duncan is just a lying thief.
They’ve got to learn that they don’t get office just ‘cos they think it’s their turn. They have to be better examples of public life, they have to think clearer, and they aren’t so far ahead that the electorate can’t administer another dose of 1997 medicine.
We are running out of people to vote for, but I can think of at least two presentable Lib Dems and a third one who is a decent cove. The next election is Cameron’s to lose.
Names please!
We are searching for those MPs who are not troughers (if they exist)!
im hating the spin by the 3 leaders and indiv mps-in deep sh^t–its every member.
NO it isnt
especialy the ones flipping
speaker of the house–has lost the plot
Besides, he has a very smug and punchable face
I can take ‘im, know what I mean ‘arry.
The speaker is one of the most corrupt of the lot
It has always been traditional that the speaker is chosen from the opposition benches. For the first time in the history of parliament, these blood sucking socialist shits have chosen the most crooked Glasgow gutter-snipe that they could find, knowing full well that he would lead the swine to the trough.
They should a) pay back every cent of their claims, b) have a full tax investigation on all their affairs and c) not be allowed to stand for election again.
Duncans’ little fiddle will look irrelevant soon. There’s still Hoon, Balls and Cooper and probably another few high ranking Labour scum to come. Then of course the three on suicide watch…… I’ll send a wreath, on exes of course.
OI !! Lofa on the sofa – that is fucking tasteless !!
But very funny…
Alan Duncan is [pun intended] the oiliest shit in the house of commons…
Yes, compared to them Duncan is small beer BUT the point is he is a trougher and a liar as well and a Conservative and he was poor at his previous shadow cabinet post (lazy), so Cameron should sack him from the Shadow Cabinet as an example that at least the Conservatives will not tolerate troughing even if Labour are the “do nothing” party
AND he has a punchable face
And, more importantly, he made a tit of himself on HIGNFY
Sir Reg, indeed he did make a tit of himself. Bet he isn’t laughing now though.
That is the prosedcution case, m’lud
@20 Agreed, he is a trougher, the police and CPS should do their job and then he can have his day in court. If that’s not possible due to the fact he’s one of the buggers that made the law, how about Harriets court of public opinion stepping in! Do you think he could convince the sort of person you might find on the Clapham omnibus that he was a decent upstanding member of the house, slaving away for little pay, all for the common good?
The stupid fucking twat was saying that ‘All MPs should feel ashamed..’ at how the ’system’ had been allowed to develop over 30 years blah blah yet he didn’t do A FUCKING THING to challenge this by, er, not claiming these expenses if he thought they were so fucking awful.
This stupid dickbrained twat, along with that posh WANKER Letwin is what could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory for Cameron at the next General Election.
His career should be sacrificed to save others and to ’send a message..’.
Total Hoon, if you ask me… If I were in Blears’ [very small] shoes, I would be demanding a fucking RECOUNT !!
Guido, what’s your problem with Alan Duncan? You’re always having a pop.
Is it because he is gay?
It’s because he is a greedy,lying,oily git and has a very punchable face
Is it because he’s gay?
Err… No.
It’s because he’s a slimey little Hoon… and I’m a Tory voter.
I’m sorry… the above should read “it’s because he’s a slimey little c**t”.
Censorship…
If you look at the wonderful “wayback machine” http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.alanduncan.org.uk you can see “Alans Parliamentary Accounts” posted for most of 2003 and 2004.
Do any of those “Parliamentary Account” links work? All the ones I tried gave a 404 error.
Thanks, Vertex; very nice tool (the website I mean). This is not bad from AD but he should have kept it up and Tory Central Office should have been better briefed.
An example of what AD used to publish on his website HERE.
Not ideal details-wise but a start and an early one.
I am curious how he wore out a sit and ride lawnmower on less than an acre plot. I wonder if it is uphill?
He mistook it for shit and ride and kept sliding off.
The best thing Cameron can do is make his MP’s pay back anything that is regarded as dodgy, if they don’t then it should be simple they should be sacked.
This would draw a dividing line with Labour as I can’t see Brown at this point ordering his own MP’s to do the same, they would lynch him.
Why doesnt the leader of the party give all his MPs expenses the once over before allowing them to be submitted?
I’ve heard the Tower of London is quite nice this time of year. They could do with time to reflect on what they’ve all been getting up to. Off with their heads….
http://www.plenty2say.com
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They are SERIOUSLY disgusted.
Especially after the poppy wreaths
It’s time to Get Rid of Troughers (GROT)
http://www.notthebarnettimes.co.uk/2009/05/grot.html
Sorry that name is already copyrighted to Reginald Iolanthe Perrin Esq.
Tis a wonder that the Tories NO1 chipmunk was not struck down by lightning.
He and mandy would make a great team.But wll Dave show some spine?
Not interested in who they are or to which party they owe their allegiance.
What makes me feel ill is that they fill their boots *then* say the system is not right – only after the truth is uncovered.
If you agree that it isn’t right – pay the bloody lot back. Then and only then will the public have even a scintilla of trust in you.
Can’t argue with that
The only example I can think of that could happen to us is, if the bank deposits a large amount of money in your account by accident then you spend it all and cannot pay it back, forgive me if I am wrong do you not get prosecuted by said bank, but we can now use the its the system defence.
Or do the honourable thing and resign. Hon… ah, yes…. I see the flaw.
Cameron now suggests resignations may be necessary. I wonder what list of people he has in mind?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/benedict_brogan/blog/2009/05/11/david_cameron_resignations_may_be_necessary_over_mps_expenses_scandal
The Labour cabinet
Duncan and Maude would be my starter for 10
Mandelson.
Blears.
Harman.
Darling.
Hain.
Hoon.
Balls/Cooper
… und Pike.
The Tories would be better off apologising, paying back the money and any, like the Chipmunk Blears, being fired for breaking the law.
If Dave Cameron pushes this, as I’ve said before, he will gain the initiative.
If he doesn’t, he risks his party being dragged down to gutter that is the remnants of the liebour party and have his majority splintered by other minor parties such as the BNP/UKIP etc
I’ve been watching Duncan on the news today – he made me think of that Rik Mayal Tory. Alan B’stard wasn’t it?
And George Osborne is a dead ringer for Piers Fletcher-Dervish
Queer goings on? Suppose he can just turn the other cheek. No wonder the Armed Forces barred them, now they are compulsary…fiddlers I’m on about. You watch the next election…Pufffff and they are gone……
And your point is?
Queer goings on? Suppose he can just turn the other cheek. No wonder the Armed Forces barred them, now they are compulsary…fiddlers I’m on about. You watch the next election…Pufffff and they are gone……
I’m seeing double…
What a contemptible hypocrite. ‘This system is wrong, I’m against it’ – and I’ll keep trousering the money till I’m found out, no matter I’m a millionaire.
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If you read tomorrow that Alan Duncan has been — no, let’s not lower the tone (further).
DO let’s
Yes, Alan – we know the system is flawed – we are paying for the f*cking thing.
At no point were you or your ‘honourable’ friends forced to make these outrageous expense claims.
You milked the system for all it was worth and now you are sorry simply because you got caught.
Hiding behind a ‘flawed system’ is absolutely pathetic.
Here’s his website from 6/Feb/2003 – “Alan Duncan’s Parliamentary Accounts Published 22 January 23, 2003″
“Alan Duncan is paid £55,118 per annum,…Alan claims £19,722 per year to cover the costs of maintaining a second home…..Total Incidental Expenses – £18,023.17 (2001/2)…Alan Duncan benefits from the following insurance cover that is arranged by the Fees Office for all MPs:
Personal Accident Cover, Travel Insurance, employer’s/Public Liability Insurance, Group Personal Accident Cover for Employees, Defamation Cover.”
I don’t see any insurance against making yourself look a twat on HIGNFY – uninsurable risk I guess?
Duncan probably thinks his HGNFY appearance was a soaring triumph of comedic brilliance. The plonkers are all the same – too self-centred for normal life.
I saw him on the DLR once going to a press-day at the motor show at Excel (during the week, so must have been for “work” reasons) – wonder if he claimed the ticket?
Worked for Boris.
why cant these Hoons realise that they arent sent to the Commons to be celebrities.
The plonkers are all the same – too self-centred for normal life.
Now that’s unfair – Duncan takes self-centring to whole new levels. Shame he’s such a Hoon on a personal level, on policy he’s one of the better Tories.
Here’s a random thought though – how many MPs can resign at one time? You’ve only got the Chiltern Hundreds and Northstead, so presumably only two can resign at a time, although David Davis must have been able to surrender his before fighting the by-election? I guess if they were to bring back Old Shoreham, East Hendred, Poynings and Hempholme that would allow another four to resign at a time. I know everyone got upset about the cost of the Davis by-election, but what if the opposition parties decided to start resigning all of their MPs that were mentioned in the Telegraph reports, expecting them each to fight a by-election to “clear the air”? Or to stay retired if they had really been taking the piss. How would Labour respond? Could Liz dissolve Parliament and tell Brown to just go for an election?
I’m sure there’s a practical reason not to do this, but it’s an interesting thought experiment.
Here’s a sample of what he DID publish:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040830114121/http://alanduncan.org.uk/
Basically, a breakdown of constituency office expenses into rates, phone etc., together with his salary and the total ACA claim.
That Tosser the Rt Hon Michael Martin should be the first one out the door he is a disgrace.
This is no parliament, he is no speaker, and his pathetic master is no prime minister.
Ha! I shredded all the evidence. Can’t catch me!
Taxi !!
Your wife’s out shopping in it guvnor!
http://web.archive.org/web/20040205095613/http://alanduncan.org.uk/parliamentary_accounts.htm
This is from in 2004. That’s quite a lot more than most MPs do even now.
So he was OK 5 years ago?He should have maintained the transparency instead of giving in to the temptation of helping himself to OUR money.And he has a punchable face
Very dissapointing.
Ah Guido, now there’s a man, Alan Duncan, who just doesn’t give you enough credit. Fool that he is. Time for DC to kick him out or ensure his constituency does.
Can’t kick him out he’s gay. Just like Muslims and women politicians get a free pass no matter how fucking useless they are.
It’s becoming clear that they are all at it. Dishonourable bunch of shite.
drip….. drip….. drip….. drip….. drip….. drip….. drip….. drip….. drip…..
Alan. Please explain how having your lawnmower overhauled was an expense wholly and necessarily incurred by your duties as an MP, as required in the Green Book.
Oh sorry. I forgot – its the flawed system that is the problem. You just couldn’t help yourself, presumably.
Groucho. We ’sensitive, artistic’ types are extremely fickle and prone to being easily coerced. Ask my current partner! Look, what I did was within the limits set out by us and a bigger boy told me how to do it. He also told me how to get the maximum out of the tax-payer. Sucks, doesn’t it? OMG, I’ve got to get away from these homoerotic references. BTW- it is a huge one. The lawnmower, that is.
He will be an early victim in the DC shake out when it comes. If Camerhoon shows lack of bottle this Rt Hon will be a victim nontheless when his past catches up with him (Marc Rich days). Book being written now.
If I were him I would seek a little less publicity at the moment. He clearly thinks being brazen is the best form of defence. HaHaHa
Well, he come in here and ordered 4800 quids worth of sixteen-inch ‘ThrusterSubs’ with extra brown stuff and gherkins and then phoned for a couple of cabs to take them home in. Seemed like a nice bloke.
Anyone know where in Docklands Hazel Blears had her first flipped property? TIA
Why, thinking of putting a blue trough outside it?
LOL Just investigating a potential conflict of interest :)
try private eye, but dont mention this site!
Thanks :)
Is it just me, or are the MPs shouting loudest about collective guilt now the ones who are deepest in the trough?
They’re giving us, genuine, porkers a bad name. We is intelligent, faithful, trustworthy geezers until the day you put the bolt-gun to our bonces. Hmmm, I just gave myself an idea. OINK OINK.
The way he walks away in that clip appears to show he’s got a bit left in!
Mr Squeaker Martin now says that they may release the full details of MPs’ “expense claims” early. Oldonnabit…..they said they couldn’t release them until July because they needed to edit/censor them (not, of course, because on 21 July Parliament would go into recess, we’d all be on holiday and the media would be running silly season stories). Whence the sudden spurt of energy?
The shredders in overdrive.
Is it cos I is a person of gaiety?
Spin and bluster? No, just lies.
Finally some sense. Tom Bradby on ITV News poists out how stupid it looks to the public to call in the police and that there probably isn’t a jury in the Country that would convict someone for leaking this information.
It shows what a fucking wanker Michael Martin is. Piss off back to jockland you tool.
DAVE C , if your reading this sack this man now…….he should have gone after his HIGNFY stint !
Put him on gardening leave
up hill gardening leave, surely
oh do fuck off you tory apologist arsehole.
what a dick!
strong barricade? nah.
Any bets on who is in the Telegraph tomorrow?
A bit ot maybe, but it might have been interesting to have seen the self-censored allowances first and then be able to discover/publish the items that the MP’s wanted to hide.
I would never trust a man who wears his hair like that
Its usually the cover up that gets them…
ha ha ha
I wonder whether he actually claimed for the plug he brandished on HIGNFY.
He’s supposed to be on “any questions” on Friday.
I can’t see what everyone is complaining about. My grandfather told me all politicians are crooks, my father told me all politicians are crooks. And now they’ve shown once again they are, we criticise them. My world would have been turned upside down if there has been one honest man or woman among them.
Just another lying scumbag, then. Like a fool I believed this oily creep until reading about him on this site. Nice work once again, Mr. Fawkes.
“I am flabbergasted, witnessing how theft has become an institution in our country that we can’t even fight anymore. The powers that be are sitting on fortunes and on justice so that all recourse and all legal action in the country is virtually impossible.”
Actually written by a citizen of Gabon, whose ex leader Omar Bongo is being pursued by Judge Desset.
Wish we had our own Desset here, we’ve certainly got Bonkers Bongo Brown.
Some Labour MP who’s name escapes me more the pity cos he was good stated on C4 that they should all take a pay cut pay taxes & travel 2nd He also said that allowances should be drastically cut – when Jon Snow remarked that he thought that would mean they wouldn’t be able to attract talent into politics the MP said “nonsense” & that they get paid more than enough – We need more like him
I’ve just watched the clip above, he seems to have fake tan on. is he going to turn into a tory Killroy Silk? he’s a big enough tosser.
If Philip Hollobone (Conservative M.P.)can do the job effectively on annual expenses of £40-50,000, then why not the rest?
One who isn’t on the gravy train, a good local M.P. – and seemingly a rarity.
Don’t forget the word ‘local’.
All this parachuting rising stars into safe seats so they then need a second house there should cease right now. That would put an end to 90% of the troughing.
Your MP should come from the constituancy they represent. Without that, how can they properly represent the people that elected them.
If anyone wants to see what alan duncan put on his website about expenses then check out http://www.archive.org. its a public record of internet sights by time.
The direct link below takes you to the detail he published
http://web.archive.org/web/20030603110522/http://www.alanduncan.org.uk/
Don’t forget Alan Duncan and his neighbour’s council house.
(Which was apparently in Gayfere Street, btw. It’s since been renamed Homophobia Street.)
Listen, do not take your eye off the ball-these devious bastards are pressing ahead with pay as you throw bin charges and creating another quango to run them. It was confirmed in an answer to a written question yesterday.
These fuckers still carry on as though nothing has happened. Personally I would pay if I was allowed to throw millipede in my dustbin.
YES- watch out. None of their Orwellian/Marxist ideas have been shelved.
Even the so-called cancellation of the e-mail monitoring has re-surfaced via GCHQ.
Taxi for Michael Martin!
Anyone tried the Way Back Machine – a fairly straightforward of verifying whether he’s telling truth or bullshit. Apologies if this has been already mentioned.
We are talking here about people severely limited in their ability to reason – people that don’t even remotely consider, not even a tiny bit, the possibility that things like these are archived elsewhere online and will come back to bite.
I suspect that there are quite a jobs for in government for which limited intelligence would not be a liability.
Try reading #13, #39, #43, #46….
In any other developed country, an apology would be followed by a criminal prosecution and the forced return of our stolen money to the Country’s coffers. I don’t see any coppers queuing up to investigate, nor MPs queuing up to return the cash they’ve fraudulently obtained. They didn’t even stick within their OWN made-up rules on expenses, so the criminality involved is beyond any question. An open and shut case for PC Plodd. Why no takers?
I’m might be wrong but I think Alan Duncan is a homosexual. If he is it means he like cocks up his arse. Has anybody ever in the history of the universe ever come across a homosexual who wasn’t a liar and a thief?
Alan Duncan, Utter scum, this slimy little lickspittle is all that’s wrong with the system of government that is happy to claim cash to finance their lifestyle and puffed up sense of importance while pensioners freeze, families struggle to pay their food bills and keep a roof over their heads and soldiers die in a stupid war.
Thieving MP’s must be billed for clearing up their scams, cash wrongly claimed paid back with interest.
How dare they moralise, what genuine scum they are.
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