Sunday Sleaze Bumper Edition
There is a heck of a lot to round-up this morning. So first a bit of light entertainment:
Tory MP James Gray, who Guido can confirm from previous behaviour is a complete shit, is exposed today by the News of the World “as a greedy skinflint after claiming for Remembrance Day wreaths on expenses.” Iain Dale calls James Gray “a class one copper bottomed shit… I feel sick to the stomach that an MP from the party I support could even contemplate claiming money for a wreath, let alone actually going ahead and doing it.” So bad news for the Tory Shadow Scottish Secretary David Mundell, who also claims for wreaths. They are both pretty much unashamed that their tribute to those who made the ultimate sacrifice is to put in an expense claim.
Guido alluded to LibDem CEO Lord Rennard’s troughing ways yesterday, the News of the World has found out about his lying to the parliamentary authorities about his place of residence so he can trouser £41,678 tax free. Guido will be returning to Lord Rennard in the near future. His troughing dishonesty doesn’t end with this, nor does his personal morality bear much scrutiny.
The News of the Screws has a competition , the winner can live like an MP!
Caroline Flint is posing as a diva in a fashion spread in the Observer. The hard-hitting interview asks “Will she ever be able to improve on her number seven ranking in the Most Fanciable MP list?” No questions however about the former Housing Minister getting the taxpayer to pay her stamp duty tax.
The Times reports that Baroness Thornton, a Labour minister in the whips’ office, with a £1 million family house near Hampstead Heath claims up to £22,000 a year in expenses by saying that her mother’s modest bungalow in Yorkshire is her main home.
Hazel Blears flipped her main residence and told a different story to the tax man enabling her to avoid paying capital gains tax on the £45,000 profit she made out of taxpayers.
Tom Watson, the mendacious Minister for Mudslinging and Digital Engagement, claims almost £100 a week for food. Together with fellow Minister Iain Wright, he has used parliamentary allowances to lavish more than £100,000 on their shared Central London home since the last General Election. That is one gold-plated pig sty.
- Taxman probes second-home profits to see whether MPs have side-stepped capital gains
- Kitty Ussher claimed £20,000 for ‘bad taste’ Artex ceilings
- Sinn Fein MPs claim £310,000 expenses for rent on flats in properties all owned by one Irish landlord
- Stephen Byers claimed £125,000 for flat his partner owned
- Kevin Brennan had £450 TV delivered to family home
- MPs’ Expenses: ToTony Blair’s £296,000 mortgage on constituency home he bought for £30,000
- John Reid sent a bill for £199 pouffe and £29.99 glitter loo seat
- John Gummer claimed £36,000 for gardening and mole-hunting at his estate
- The Speaker’s scapegoat: Official who signed off MPs’ expenses didn’t even have accountancy qualification
- Millionaire Tory Greg Barker made £320,000 profit on flat funded by taxpayer
- Keith Vaz claimed £75,500 for a Westminster flat while family home is 12 miles from Commons
- ‘I’m just too honest’ says Phil Woolas who ‘claimed’ for women’s clothes
- Commons boss who called in police has four homes in three countries, including grace and favour mansion
- Millionairess Barbara Follett had own private police force (paid for by £25,000 of your money)
- Solicitor General Vera Baird claimed for Christmas trees
- Uniformed chauffeurs to football club for Michael Martin
- Care services minister claims £37,000 on furnishing tiny four-room flat
- ‘Police probe’ Minister Tony McNulty still defiant
Something to mull over; HMRC allows £5 per night subsistence deductions to taxpayers for overnight stays in the UK. MPs voted themselves £20-a-day tax-free subsistence payments. Why is the rule different for MPs? Do they eat 300% more than the rest of us?
UPDATE : Talking of Tom Watson, after reading the above a co-conspirator emails;
The first time I met him, after many bottles of vino and hours of him talking to my tits, he started telling me all about his second home in London and that he and Siobhan were looking to buy another one in the capital. I was thinking she must be loaded, but now that I consider it in light of current events, I have my doubts.
He is of course (like all MPs) loaded, courtesy of the taxpayers.
First!!!!
Ker-ching!!!!
Congratulations – a lot of MPs having been saying that for years after oinking their way to the head of the queue and ‘legitimately’ using their BIBLE – the sacred and all-so-hallowed Green Book.
Unfortunately it is holier than a hoon-riddled cabinet.
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/GoToCountryNow/
Lets exercise our democratic right and vote to get rid if these shitheads
Signed
Signed, 2323 and counting.
Why not see if we can get this one to #2 in the list behind the resign one…
Signed.
This is all well and good, but there are just too many of them out there swindling; its going to give them all an excuse to stay.
Blears, for example, with her flipping and subsequent tax dodge: ordinarily that would be a huge scandal, she would be required to resign whilst an investigation took place. Now, however, she is going to get away with it. I mean why sack her? How can she be sacked? Sacking her means Broon will have to sack 60 or 70 others. She is now utterly safe.
The timing is no good either – its to close to an election. Involving all parties as it does, there will be no push from the Tories for an election on this issue; they can’t point the finger and demand regime change.
What can happen next if 600 MPs are found to be corrupt? You can’t vote out Labour and vote in Tory if they are just as bad? The LibDems are right in it too.
Perhaps Joanna Lumley should start a ‘Party of Honour’, fielding fresh, non-party faces in each constituency….
signed.
What about Ed ‘Blinky‘ Balls and Yvette ‘Mrs Balls‘ Cooper? Still no mentions of them?
I reckon we’re going to see those Balls in a vice pretty soon.
As somebody on an earlier thread suggested, can’t we get the Police to investigate a criminal conspiracy to defraud?
Portillo stated openly on This Week that new MPs were taken to one side and told to always claim the maximum allowed under ‘the rules’. Otherwise this would ‘be letting the side down’.
This is surely a clear cut case of people conspiring to submit false claims for personal/group financial benefit. It is fraud and there is a conspiracy to commit fraud.
How do we get the wheels in motion?
Signed and posted around the place
http://11m.ta4.at/
Now they’ve actually accepted one of these, Let’s get this it to number 1!
I have contacted the Serious Fraud Squad and am awaiting a reply. Perhaps if other people also report this, then they might be forced to investigate?
Their criteria are:
1) Fraud exceeding £1,000,000
2) Public Interest
3) International Dimension
I think that this criminal conspiracy clearly meets all their criteria. Come on people, stop moaning and start using the system against these Hoons.
495…. done. Hope that puts some impetus into these allegations being investigated outside of Parliament itself.
Signed
I want to see Blairs expenses.
Knowig how carefull Cruella was with money, should make interesting reading.
W.W.
W.W., so do we all, but unless you are very good at jigsaws we aren’t ever going to know….what’s that sound? Shredders doing overtime!
yeah funny that.
See Blears saying the expenses “system is wrong”.
No you thieving lying bitch, you and all the other thieving lying Hoons are wrong.
it wouldn’t be so bad, if they weren’t all so utterly useless at running the country.
W.W.
Okay so the documentation was shredded, but the record of payments to bliar must still exist…time to call HMRC. I am sure that they have standard methods to apply in such cases.
Money Laundering legislation should be used to make them justify these assests. No receipts because they were shredded????? Oh dear……confiscated.
But it’s all going so beautifully. Don’tcha just luv how it’s all going down the pan for Gordon? Can’t stop on here long as Tone and me, we’re off to Cliff’s place.
Ok, so one set, the set he handed in, were shredded. But what about the set of copies he keps for his own records?
His expenses have come out, but it’s actually old news.
He used expenses to remortgage his house to the hilt and then (against the rules) used the remortgaged money as a deposit on a multimillion pound property in London. Under the rules they’re only allowed to claim mortgage interest on the money raised to refurbish the *existing* property, they’re not allowed to claim any money on the remortgage used to buy a further property.
As he was PM at the time that makes his crime the worst of the lot as far as I’m concerned, especially as he was banging on about being whiter than white. Found religion? I hope he has, because I can’t see him saying sorry for troughing so it’s straight to Hell for him. Mind that’s probably why he’s been flirting with Catholicism, he just needs to say a few Hail Mary’s and he’s scot free with that bunch!
The police have special units for things like knife crime. They need to set up a unit specialising in expense claim crimes by MP’s.
“Lions led by donkeys” is a phrase popularly used to describe the British infantry of the First World War and to condemn the generals who commanded them. The contention is that the brave soldiers (lions) were sent to their deaths by incompetent and indifferent leaders (donkeys).
Little has changed since then.
“the seat in the House was not their ultimate goal but a means to ulterior aims”
“Mind that’s probably why he’s been flirting with Catholicism, he just needs to say a few Hail Mary’s and he’s scot free with that bunch!”
No he isn’t. He would need to make reparations for theft on that scale, unless it was done by “necessity” (eg because he was starving and stole food), and would also have to make a “firm purpose of amendment – i.e. no euro-troughing. Otherwise, he can’t go to Communion without committing a mortal sin.
Not holding my breath though.
Jesus Christ – Caroline Flint! I want to vomit !!
Looks like an old slapper in need of a wash. Dolly & her would make a great couple.
That gap in the front fangs has gone. Who paid for that? I reckon the lower lingerie is by John West.
She is no Sarah Palin if you know what I mean.
i got taste
Is she still getting her cocoa from Sainsbury’s?
New independent unit set up.
Too little, too late, and no sign of any remorse.
these pondlife scum should be put against the wall and fucking shot! so long as they dont use the cheap american ammo given to our troops because they will all die from boredom waiting to find a bullit that wil fucking fire!
Oh look — John Spellar has dug something out of his bottom drawer and has got the Mail to write it up almost verbatim.
Good work, Spellar!
I can’t believe that there is no expenses coverage for Ed Balls or Peter Hain. Surely two of the dodgiest individuals in Labour?
Have they slapped an injunction on the Telegraph????
The flaming of Blears leads me to suspect that not all is as it seems. It’ll be interesting to see what comes out in the next few days.
yep, could be a Mcbridey special – after all who are his drinking buddies – Andrew Porter and Benedick Brogues?
£2.75 for ginger hair dye. £15000 for cosmetic surgerey to keep this perpetual grin on my face.
Is it a coincidence that the expenses of Blears have been published following on from her “You Tube if you want to” remarks last Sunday?This has the fingerprints of Broons henchmen all over it.
I smell a rat….. what external pressure has No 10 put on the DT? Lots of skeletons in cupboards, lots of favours being called in?
I think it’s possibly even better than that.
Rumours abound that the DT have paid good money for these discs, therefore want to keep this running as long as possible. I would bet that all we’ve seen so far are the second division hoons, the Tories and others will be dealt with over the next week or so before the story ends with a big bang.
Expect the details of the Premiership Liebour hoonery unveiled as close to the elections as the DT dare for maximum impact (and maximum newspaper sales of course!)
Possible…….. also possible that the digging could go further eg haven’t seen any interview with McBroon’s cleaner.
Follow the money to find the evidence. Paper trails speak volumes people have to explain them away or whither. Simple denial is not an option when the documentary evidence is there for all to see.
I would even go so far as to buy a copy of the Telegraph if they take edwin bollox and his vile man wife down.
DT Headlines
“Cleaner Found Dead in the Woods Sensation!”
You have more chance of finding The Loch Ness Monster than this “cleaner” !!!
Hope the cleaner wasn’t using that well known product “Vanish”!
Up in it to his armpits.
The greed and dishonesty is unbelievable. Vote them all out.
The greed and dishonesty is unacceptable. String them all up!
I hope MPs are reading this.
Take them all out and shoot them. Sterilise their partners, children and close family relatives in order to rid the national gene pool of their filthy DNA. Change the rules and then hold new elections. Pay basics salary of around 24k per year plus accom in a barrack style block. You want to serve your country? Fine, do ii from a sens of duty not greed and you will out up with military style accom.
Then either reduce salaries by 80% to reflect the fact that most legislation is made in Brussels, despite the fact that 13billion pounds of UK taxpayers money disappears without trace there each year and when an employee at the Commission tries to do her job and sort the accounting black hole out, she is threatened by our own national treasure, Lord “Dookoo” Kinnock.
Or, withdraw from the EU and restore our national sovreignty, then pay for MPs can be raised to reflect their legislation making powers over the UK.
Then abolish regional mickey mouse parliaments. Grant Scotland, Wales and N Ireland independence, ie – cut them loose. They will be very grateful and can live off Brussels. I am sure the Germans and the French will e delighted to subsidze them.
Then,
Repeal immediately all Human Rights legislation.
Disband the Muslim Council of Britain.
Abolish the Witchfinder Generals office at the CRE.
Abolish the Black Police Officers Association OR, allow the formation of a White Police Officers Association.
Break up the NHS and re-structure it as per the Dutch system.
End the BBC (and Ch4) license fee. If Guardian readers, Greenpeace members and the staff of Oxfam want to keep it, they can do fund raisers like PBS in the US.
Fix the Armed Forces, re-equip. Build the carriers and the new subs. Replace Trident.
Reclaim the borders and tell anyone that if you come near us you’ll get fucking nuked.
That is all just for starters.
Minekiller……. for PM.
seconded.
errr, wait…
Penitenziagite!
very good minekiller all though the steralisation and murder of the the hoon is a little rough make them clean the streets and shovel shit for the rest of their snouty little lives as payback.
What will England live on if the rest of us are “cut loose”.
No oil revenues, no revenues from whisky, we’ll keep all the hydro electric power we generate for ourselves, etc
All England really had was the biggest financial sector probably in the world, in London.
not any more….
Minekiller for President/King
just blow the place up ? i would have thought someone would have thought of it already
Just heard on The Andrew Marr comfy sofa show a nifty notion, and that was a quiet, dignified protest by the people of the country to show these venal sharks and their media WUVI-supporters just what we think of them.
All I ask is it is not decided to be some silly all-points descent on London, as this would be a public order nightmare, unfair on the capital and require a ton of folk to use cash and carbon to get there.
I’d suggest a minute of silence for our country’s kids’ lost futures, in designated local town squares nationwide at a suitable lunchtime period that does not interfere with trying to survive and play into the hands of funded extemists without jobs to worry about.
All coordinated online and with images in a patchwork quilt in some kind of Pixel Protest like those ad spaces, in the manner of a FaceBook group. I am sure even the local plod could provide halfway accurate crowd size estimates for once.
And if the numbers add up to what… more than half the voting population who turned out at the last election, then I think it would be valid that a new one be called forthwith.
I had an idea like this myself a while back.
My idea was similar, but more like a complete national strike, for 1 minute at 12 on a Saturday.
No change? Then 2 minutes the following Saturday. Then 5, 10, 15, 30 and so on till the Government finally take notice.
Hmm, moderated? Was it “national strike” that I mentioned?
these scumsuckers always say i went in to politics to make a difference and what a difference their bank accounts are now FUCKING ENORMOUS! these vermin call each other THE RITE HONERABLE what a fucking laugh ! they are always complaining that the prisons are all full! yes with the wrong people . the biggest set of rogues and criminals are all housed in westminster. where you can eat quailty food and drink fine wine in any of the “14″ subsidised bars and restraunts on US the taxpayer they are also available for private functions to the spawn of the scum
Decorate the Tower.
Brother Salvatore says:
May 10, 2009 at 10:32 am
Penitenziagite!
Ik op de kik niet?
Send a pig to Parliament FTAO Mr Speaker. Anything will do – picture,badge,stuffed toy, balloon.
And then – and this is the important part – send an email to the BEEB, and SKY News and the Telegraph (why not – I hate the hoons and after the stunt they played on Guido I wrote and told them I would break the habit of 55 years and stop buying, and I did – but they have gone some way to redeeming themselves now) Stress again THIS IS IMPORTANT because we don’t know the extent of the success of OH’s “Send-a-shirt-to-Gordon” because obviously the Stasi are not going to admit either that it is going on, or the size of it. So we need a mechanism of information disemination that the MSM can’t ignore – and lots and lots of us to do it of course.
Priceless.
I loved the bit when the boy chorus stood up…….. just about sums it up really.
Speaker Martin as Fagan…. a seemingly fitting tripbute seeing as he appointed the under qualified people to do the job in the Fees office. The instances of Bullying Mr Walker by refusing to speak to him for weeks is classic bullying tactics. The poor man is now getting the flack for a system….. a failed system that Labour, and Labour Speaker Martin introduced.
There were the days when those at the top took the flack. But is now the norm for the TOP to protect the man at the top and scarifice those under him.
Scandalous.
To be fair, he is clearly under qualified (and incompetent) himself.
We should sack whoever elected him, the zanulaba party I presume
DWARF FRAUDSTER COMES CLEAN
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The Mail is always good for a few: The Speaker’s scapegoat: Official who signed off MPs’ expenses didn’t even have accountancy qualification
The official at the expenses department consisted of a small nodding dog. The MP would consult this ‘official’ asking ‘is this within the rules?’
the telegraph should be up for newspaper of the year! lets ask our imposed P M to present the award as he’s never one to shun publicity.
This is even better: Commons boss who called in police has four homes in three countries, including grace and favour mansion
Right, that’s it, I’ve got sleaze overload and I haven’t even finished the Mail.
The ginger hobbit is well at it: Flipper Hazel Blears and the £18k tax bill that never was
It’s all for the cause boyos (fucking hoons): Sinn Fein MPs claim £310,000 expenses for rent on flats in properties all owned by one Irish landlord
I can’t argue with this, it’s all in the best possible taste: MPs EXPENSES: Kitty Ussher claimed £20,000 for ‘bad taste’ Artex ceilings
Tom Watson, fat little piggie at it again: MPs’ Expenses: Tom Watson spent so much at M&S that store gave him pizza wheel as free gift
I’m off for a bath.
You really shouldn’t ask, Mr Fawkes:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1179989/MPs-Expenses-Tom-Watson-spent-M-S-store-gave-pizza-wheel-free-gift.html
* Taxman probes second-home profits to see whether MPs have side-stepped capital gains
* Kitty Ussher claimed £20,000 for ‘bad taste’ Artex ceilings
* Sinn Fein MPs claim £310,000 expenses for rent on flats in properties all owned by one Irish landlord
* Stephen Byers claimed £125,000 for flat his partner owned
* Kevin Brennan had £450 TV delivered to family home
* MPs’ Expenses: ToTony Blair’s £296,000 mortgage on constituency home he bought for £30,000
* John Reid sent a bill for £199 pouffe and £29.99 glitter loo seat
* John Gummer claimed £36,000 for gardening and mole-hunting at his estate
* The Speaker’s scapegoat: Official who signed off MPs’ expenses didn’t even have accountancy qualification
* Brown the most unpopular PM since polling began – and half want him to quit now
* Millionaire Tory Greg Barker made £320,000 profit on flat funded by taxpayer
* Keith Vaz claimed £75,500 for a Westminster flat while family home is 12 miles from Commons
* ‘I’m just too honest’ says Phil Woolas who ‘claimed’ for women’s clothes
* Commons boss who called in police has four homes in three countries, including grace and favour mansion
* Millionairess Barbara Follett had own private police force (paid for by £25,000 of your money)
* Solicitor General Vera Baird claimed for Christmas trees
* Uniformed chauffeurs to football club for Michael Martin
* Care services minister claims £37,000 on furnishing tiny four-room flat
* MAIL ON SUNDAY COMMENT: Dissolve this rotten Parliament before it corrupts public life altogether
* NORMAN BAKER: Never in my 20 years in politics have I seen the public as angry as today
* ‘Police probe’ Minister Tony McNulty still defiant
* Did leak come from the same mole who revealed Hutton Report?
* Flipper Hazel Blears and the £18k tax bill that never was
* And guess whose idea it was to put Gordon Brown on YouTube
Interestingly all the financial sleaze in Parliament seems to stop at just the last few years. Nothing in place before Labour came to power as far as I can tell. Hardly surprising though when the changes that allow the most troughing have come into place during the Labour Government’s time (such as the now infamous John Lewis List).
I also find it richly ironic that the party getting caught in the trough is Labour when the whole thing started as a Conservative witch hunt against 2 Tory troughers. I also find it richly ironic that it is Labour who are running scared over this shambles and only 6 Tories who tried to cover up their expenses after being told to by Dave.
Guido, Not that funny then?
My MP, Gummer, has charged £36,000 for gardening and ‘mole control’. I have written to him for an explanation – foolishly I quipped ‘presumably moles are not a problem in London’. On reflection, I see that moles are a huge problem in London,mostly for the present Government!
Beautiful – the ad immedately below the blog is for washing machines from John Lewis – how fitting……………….
Stunning….Dickens would be proud.
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/GoToCountryNow/
Lets exercise our democratic right and vote to get rid if these shitheads
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5293586/Geoff-Hoons-property-empire-built-on-taxpayers-money-MPs-expenses.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8042214.stm
From the BBC article above:
“Lord Carey acknowledged that many MPs had “honour and integrity”. He said he had recently met Gordon Brown and been convinced the prime minister was driven by “a desire to serve his country”.
I’m sure Lord Carey means well but his entire religious philosophy is based on fairy tales with very little basis in historical fact and religious ‘Leaders’ should really constrain their comments to their own areas of dubious authority. We should all accept our own responsibility when it comes to ethics and not have to rely on religion to tell us what is right and wrong.
I have no doubt the prime minister is driven by an enormous ego and a warped sense of reality which is causing us all suffering and not by a sense of altruism towards the UK. If he did care about the country he would call a general election immediately and let the country decide who we want to govern us. However it is abundantly clear that we want a change and it would mean he would be relegated to selling the big issue.
It’s sad and painful that the ‘mother of all parliaments’ has turned into this farce by self serving and corrupt bureaucrats.
Nicely put.
Lord Carey believes McMoralCompass has honour and integrity, but then he believes in Sky Pixies too
“Many MPs had “honour and integrity”". Many do. A more than fair chunk do not. This starts at Local Government level and goes all of the way up. From the Councillors, to the Parliamentary Candidates the Parties select. All the way to the Prime Minister.The Parties fail to deal with crooks at local levels running the shop back home, so you get crooks elected.
You will hear them and their apologists crowing about they need to be paid more as a basic. That is pure tosh. Pay them less. There are thousands who want to be an MP – there is no shortage and the high pay and expenses has attracted those interested in the money not those interested in serving as Parliamentarians.
Pay them the same as a Social Worker. Do not let them buy homes on expenses, rent them. The Commons should make an arrangement with Westminster Council. MPs’ should not profit from their failure to deal with hyper inflation in the London Property Market.
Then as I suggest on my blog, give them Special Responsibility Allowances for Working Committees, whose role is to ensure that solutions are found for the problems of the Nation and that legislation is not the badly drafted, knee jerk reactionary rubbish that has been foisted on us. The Committee places should be voted on by the whole House, to remove the purview of the Whips.
Maybe then we could get a Parliamentary system worthy of the name.
Those that have invested in London property should perhaps be forced to sell it in say 3 years time via auction (all properties at the same auction). The market should be close to bottom by then. No offset for CGT. Pay for their own HIP, etc.
Or rather than that – any second home paid for through expenses should have any capital gain returned to the taxpayer. After all, the second home was for their duties as an MP, not for a profit.
The song went down great with a cup of tea. Thank you Guido. Morning folks. Lot around this morning? There sure is – the words that came to mind as I read through today’s news was ‘ and the walls came tumbling down.’ But where are Balls/Cooper?
Morning, Nell. Telegraph saving the best ’till last, perhaps?
….and where is ghastly Uddin?
Yes thanks I meant to ask about her – I wouldn’t want her to be forgotten in this deluge – I bet she’s hiding in that Maidstone flat trying to make it look as though she’s always lived there. Utility bills and council tax records will show different when the police come calling.
She’s set up a three-way wank circle for Draper, McBride and Watson in Maidstone – this is where the hoons are hiding.
Brown’s premiership is turning just as I predicted in my book “Boom and Bust” written before he became PM. Contact me on nigel_bowker_917@hotmail.com for a free electronic copy.
To my knowledge this is the second time you’ve plugged your book here.
Why?
It’s about the fiftieth – hell, why not?
Look’s like Hazel is toast – convenient for Gordon.
Why not? This site is his second home.
Why not, indeed – it’s free.
Send some books to Brown. He must be running out of phones by now.
It’s an amusing read. Thanks.
Yes, its clear we have some very artful dodgers, and I always thought B.S. stood for Bill Sykes until I heard their excuses.
Were is the “how to make two million quid” thingy then?
As for claiming wreaths on expenses, despicable.
It was Geoff Hoon – those photos were of his luxury homes provided compliments of the taxpaper- value approx £2m. Lovely man!!
Yup, I was actually surprised. Hoon a hoon, who would have thunk it.
Photo still looks familiar though, lol
(OT, pic looks like Prescott’s house. He brought in a bill that would make it legal for developers to steal, er I mean purchase, half the garden of a privately owned house at a knock down price. Then it was pointed out that his house has enough land to build another 4 houses onto but because of the way the bill was structured Prescott would be exempt from having his garden taken from him. Scum)
If I had to lay a wreath on behalf of an organisation, I’d expect the organisation to pay for it too. As long as he didn’t claim that he was laying it as a personal tribute (sack him if he did).
It sounds like gweeds has far more material we could & should use to get rid of the copper bottomed shit – fill yer boots
What if you had to attend quite a few of these a year. Wreath costs say at leat 50 to 100 quid a throw. say you went to 50 of these services of various types a year quite posible for an MP I would have thought
Just saying thats a hell of a lot of money out of your own pocket.
Point is, if he’s laying the wreath on behalf of someone else, then they should pay it. It should *not* be coming out of his MP expenses.
Which does beg the question, if laying a wreath on behalf of the Government as part of his constituency duties, who should pay for it? Seems only a couple have claimed it back, so what do the rest do with their wreaths? I’m guessing they pay out of their own money as the money paid is actually a charitable donation. That’s the main issue I reckon, by claiming it on expenses he is in effect saying he doesn’t believe our armed forces deserve his support for the sacrifices they have made on this country’s behalf over the last 100 years.
>Wreath costs say at least 50 to 100 quid a throw
I pay £20 for an RAF wreath each year on behalf of a charity, I have no income and I don’t invoice them. I don’t doubt that some MPs might claim back £50-100 but just check what wreaths they lay compared to what they reclaim.
Essentially it sounds like many MPs have lost themselves in a world of 1984 style doublethink, and ‘1984’ was a good little world for those near it’s peak. It is little surprise that this growth in self deceptive avarice accompanies an increase in the power of the state to monitor and detain without trial those who attack the state.
A guilty state recognises no innocents.
try buying them around here for 20 quid in fact trying buying them in London for 20 quid.
Agree with the sentiments but this is something undertaken on our behalf as a direct result of being an MP. A total and absolute valid expense in my book. Look at it another way. I always ask myself would I be paying this if I was not here in my job capacity?
If yes don’t claim if no claim. (Alcohol excepted of course because you can and are allowed to claim for water)
Lets get to the serious troughers the Blears, hoons Straws etc etc of this world who are not only troughers but hypocrites to boot.
342, 482
Afternoon, Mr Gray
Anon 12:14
Wreath prices from the Lady Haig factory, add £3.50 for postage to the most arrogant London addresses:
http://www.ladyhaigpoppyfactory.org.uk/main/wreaths.htm
I’ve been to the factory, spoken to the people who work there. I admit that they are the sort of people frequently described in this blog as “jock bastards”, excrement etc for being Scottish, guess that rules them out the charity loop for many folk.
there is only one remberance day per year 1st sunday in november usually but knowing the depths these scum wil stoop to they probarbly do claim for50 per year. who oversees their accounts? blunkett?
Bliar used allowances to guarantee remortgage to 100% of property value?
Blears too be investigated by the Tax Man
The Sinn Fein thing just seems to be a result of another obtuse British treaty to gain untaxed money whilst not claiming their salary which is taxed and would therefore be seen to support the British Government. The bribe to get them to the table
Keep it up Guido, we’ll have them out yet!
if the tax men want to investigate blears, will this mean that Darling and Brown will also be under scrutiny?
Nothing on Balls or Cooper, could it be saved for Monday – tease everyone that its going to be on the Tories, then publish details on the rest of the Cabinet.
Alll in all Brown, Darling, Blears, Straw, Flint, Hoon are supporters of the Do As I Say, not Do As I Do brigade, particularly on arrangements of mortgages, stamp duty and council tax.
I am not so worried about Sinn Fein getting these allowances. I seem to recall that it was some sort of condition to get Sinn Fein on board to a democratic ticket. It worked, at least to some degree. That and those IRA prats getting caught in South America and the US Government threatening to make the IRA a terrorist organisation , thus starving their access to funds. Anyway, I would rather allow this for now, than have more deaths in NI.
So you’re happy for them to hold us to ransom????
Pay the Danegeld …
No, I am NOT happy….. all I am trying to suggest is that allowing them to claim under the corrupt system, seems to be a better alternative to blood mayhem and murder on the streets of Belfast.
At the time I don’t think anyone raised a serious objection to using this as a tool to restore democracy to Northern Ireland.
The Sinn Fein story is a side issue, more a distraction really. As they are in principle opposed to the British State, they have no obligation to look after tax payers funds. On the other hand, since Liebour are in principle representing the working class they have a duty to keep their hands off those workers taxes. There is thus, even in the obscenity of it all, a more principled stand being taken by Messers Adams et al.
BTW, the Grauniad thinks there are 659 MP’s. The House of Commons web site says 646. Are the other 14 ghosting?
Or indeed 13 :)
Definitely 646 at the moment
Talking of numbers, 55,790 fuck offs and counting…..
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/list/open?sort=signers
Some have been replaced in by-elections during the period covered by the expenses claims.
The idea was that they would stop robbing banks. Did they do that?
There were 657 MPs sitting in the House of Commons between 2001 and 2005
Sorry, typo, I meant 659 MPs between 2001 and 2005
I urge you all to show solidarity in these difficult times.
Please sign the petition in support of our Glorious Leader using a good old down-to-earth name like Chuck Brown.
Nice to see my descendants alive and well in NuLabour. What, with unbridled pillage, a devastated social and employment landscape and a scorched earth financial policy, it all brings a tear to my eye. Not much happening on the population reduction front although Gordon’s signed up to a New World Order that wants a global limit of half a billion. But hey, Rome wasn’t sacked in a day.
Morning. Re Margaret Moran – in addition to her £20,000 claimed for dry rot repairs on her partner’s beach hut, apart from Tone she’s the laziest MP at responding to constituent messages according to the latest they don’t work for you research. Some other well known lazy sods near the bottom of that list. Does that help?
Thank you for the heads up on that website. New to me and very interesting.
Here’s an odd thing about my MP, the mildly creepy Nick Palmer.
Under Additional Costs Allowance, for 2007-8 with £23,057 he comes in joint 171st. For four of the previous five years he comes in joint 1st with increasingly smaller amounts, failing to reach the top spot only once when he came joint 3rd.
I’m going to ask him for an explanation. How come he got WORSE at milking the system? Or does this say more about the other 170 who beat him in the league table?
Just to be fair, he does have excellent attendance stats. And never ever defies the whip.
“And never ever defies the whip.”
You say that like it’s a good thing?
I’d like to think that my MP would take on the opinions of his constituents when it comes to voting. So while most would probably agree with the current party ideology they should also vote against the whip where their constituents have made it clear they don’t agree. That’s why they’re there after all, to represent.
Personally I say ban the whip.
Gray may well be a complete shit in other respects but if he has to attend memorial services in his capacity as an MP and lay wreaths it seems reasonable that he shouldn’t have to pay for these out of his own pocket. I’m sure GB and DC don’t pay for the wreaths they lay at the Cenotaph every year.
Plenty of other examples of downright fraud in expense claims to focus on….
@17 Dot Neck
You have a point there. I think that claiming for wreaths looks very bad on the face of it, and therefore is a good stick to beat them peskly Tories with.
I’m more worried about those who have been ripping us off for their own personal gain than this.
@17 Dot Neck
You do have a point there, however claiming for wreaths looks bad and is therefore a good stick to beat them peskly (?sp) Tories with.
I’m more concerned with those who have been ripping us off for their own personal gain than with this.
Maybe claiming for a wreath is not in the best possible taste, but this is 3rd division hoonery compared to ‘honourable’ members ‘flipping’ the second (and third) homes around and making tens of thousands of pounds for themselves from taxpayers’ money, while avoiding CGT, stamp duty and council tax…
I agree 100% with you Dot Neck. The MP is representing the public.
This is OUR tax money paying for a wreath. I am 100% in support of this.
When it is OUR tax money paying for cleaning services, I object.
those men paid with their lives, the least that the political tossers could do is show enough respect to pat for a wreath
If this is all they can pin on an MP, then it isn’t a big issue I’m afraid.
If you think it is, then please express your disgust that OUR tax money is being spent on a wreath.
The wreath ought to be from US, with the MP representing US.
How about compaining about the male MPs buying tampons. What do they do with those? On second thoughts, don’t answer the obvious question, because I know where I’d like to stick it.
I lay a wreath on behalf of the PCC at our local church – the PCC pays for the wreath, not me, it doesn’t mean that I am a greedy, skinflint, I’m a representative of the PCC and I am laying their wreath on their behalf.
If an MP lays a wreath on behalf of his constituency or on behalf of the government or opposition I think it is acceptable to claim the cost.
The real villainy is from those who claim for personal profit.
Agreed. It’s the behaviour of a colossal sh*t.
And isn’t there also a well know New Labour MP’s doind it too ?
sorry Mark but when you are laying these quite a bit in an year then we should pay. Sorry but that is one expense I do not have a problem with whichever party made it.
I also have no problems with male MP’s buying tampons – they are all bleeding c*nts
Says it all…..and don’t forget keep sending those bathplugs to the
Rt. Hoon Jacqui Sniff MP. The Home Improvement Secretary.
You know it makes sense!
I’m going to send to tampons to Woolas – the poor chap needs our support at this type.
Ooh good one…
Although my additional shopping is mounting up – bathplugs, tampons, piano wire…
Great pic of el Gordo at the Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1179911/MAIL-ON-SUNDAY-COMMENT-Dissolve-rotten-Parliament-corrupts-public-life-altogether.html
Looks like he is about to rip the mask off to reveal something more vile and punchable.
An unlikely scenario…more punchable than Brown!
I’m really struggling to come up with a candidate
Which one is his good eye?
If I get just the one chance to poke him in the eye I don’t want to waste it.
The one between his arse cheeks.
Our old friend Tom Watson is the source of much mirth.It seems that the fat one has pigged out on so much M&S food at our expense that the shop sent him a free pizza wheel.
Can we have it back,please?
Surely as a public servant he should not be accepting gifts from suppliers? I hope it was properly recorded in the appropriate register
Obey our laws. We have the moral and political authority.
General Election? Brown to step down? No, didn’t think so. How much more can they take, I’d be contemplating suicide rather than living with this level of embarrassment.
General Election is another serviceman being treated with contempt by this government!
You forget, when entering parliment, they have an opperation removing the embarrassment, and shame gene.
At least they have been fully exposed as the fraudulent hypcrites that some of us knew they always where.
W.W.
They also have an empathyectomy and spine removal procedures…oh! and the little device stuffed up their nostril so the aliens can identify them as their drones….
Suicides? What suicides?
You shouldn’t believe a word Labour’s spin doctors say. There have been no suicides and until there are, please don’t credit these people with any of the sense of decency and honour of ordinary people. All the evidence is that this Parlaiment is full of are sociopathic kleptomaniacs. Don’t expect any shame, apologies or remorse.
Brilliant trailer to the musical Guido.
When is it on full release ans what is it called?
Oliver! Cromwell?
Please, Sir, can I have more?
The musical interlude was fun but the true irony is it is us who are dancing to the Politicians’ tunes, they make one set of laws for us and another for themselves.
When revenge time comes for us at the General Election it will be anything but satisfying as we vote a lot of these greedy wastrels out of office.
They will go with their tax free redundancy money.
A “Sir Fred Goodwin” sized pension paid for by us.
They will also have the rental income from their property portfolios that we purchased for them.
and
A new career giving out lessons on the only thing any of them ever excelled at in Parliament: TAX AVOIDANCE.
Yep, not only have they rewarded themselves extraordinary levels of expenses when in office, they have also awarded themselves even more extraordinary levels of financial compensation for failure.
I trust when their expenses are reviewed their ridiculous redundancy package will be axed. Win or lose an MP WINS.
Jacquboot threatens to fight for her reputation in court:
Guardian:
“In a separate development, in an article for today’s Observer, Sir Alistair Graham, the former chairman of the committee on standards in public life, describes the behaviour of the home secretary, Jacqui Smith, as “near-fraudulent” in relation to her expense claims.
…
“One has to be careful with the word ‘fraudulent’,” Graham writes, “because in the criminal sense there needs to be guilty intent. However, it seems to me there may be intent here and in similar cases that have emerged. People seem to be thinking, ‘What’s the best way to use the system so I can maximise the personal financial return to myself?’”
Graham’s comments brought an immediate reaction from Smith. Her spokesman said that the home secretary would be seeking legal advice about what he had said. “This is a malicious falsehood, and implies that Jacqui is lying. He seems intent on attacking her without examining the facts of the case,” the spokesman insisted.”"
Bring it on, sister.
Can you imagine the continuing damage to Labour if such an action was brought against the backdrop of a general election campaign.
She should being criticising Lord Carey in the News of the World.
Sorry,”bashing the bishop” is her husband’s prerogative.
*boom tish*
Love it, Bergen!
excellent
Surely it`s “battering the bishop”? Assuming of course that the action cums to a satisfactory conclusion.
What price will the tickets for seats in Court reach on EBay?
She really is a troughing sow.
Right on Jacqui.
Let’s see what the Jury make of the Porno flicks, the patio heaters, the bath plugs and your sister’s spare room.
Bring it on….We need some entertainment.
“Jacquboot threatens to fight for her reputation in court:”
Two things really, you have no reputation and secondly your lawyer will advise that you have no case as everything that was said was true.
There seem to be a lot of MPs threatening the use of the courts, don’t see any of them actually doing anything though.
Jacquboot has a reputation???
There are a lot of people today thinking that jury duty in London could be interesting in the coming months ;-)
Probably because the Fees Office has told them that any legal challenges will have to be at their own expense. And I am sure a good lawyer would tell them that you can’t challenge the truth. The tragedy of all this is that the authority of Parliament is now shot to pieces, time for it to be dissolved -How can it function like this?
will she claim her lawsuit on expenses?
Can I hear her using the term the ‘Pork sword of truth’ in this somewhere?
She’s got a reputation that she should want buried, or locked up in a attic room.
How do you so for “near fraudulent”? Sounds like excellent weasel wording to avoid legal consequences.
Bring her her sword of justice and shield of whatever
err would that be her sister’s attic room (above the boxroom she claims is her main home), or the other one in Redditch?
The sword of trough?
The facts of the case M’lud – ‘Second home’ was actually her main residence. Every claim on her Redditch address was not within the rules.
This is where you’d hope the Queen steps in … but she’s is the biggest fiddler of them all.
Never in the field of human GREED was so much owed by so many to so few.
er, no.
she got her fence mended on the tax payer. I remember that one
twat
The Queen should step in and enhance her already high reputation by dissolving parliament and sending the current Government off to the tower.
How kind. Thank you.
Leave the Queen out of this you CAD.
So what do we do about the upcoming local elections? May I suggest that when doorstepped by the local hopefuls that candidates expenses are raised as an issue… naturally all MPs should be challenged over how much they have managed to trouser of stuff down their surcharged (if from M&S) DD cup bra. Respects to ex – ex wife a delightful DD cup.
Better still someone photoshop a poster showing a kitkat or a bathplug and we could just hold that up at them, or pin it on the front door.
Indeed perhaps GFawkes Enterprises could produce one for sale
Even better, have a small stash of actual plugs in the house, and when a chancer knocks the door, simply open it give em a plug, say ‘Bloody scroungers’ and slam the door.
I like that one
This is fraud which goes off the Richter scale of corruptness, spivishness and sharp practice.
Nothing near about it at all.
This site is getting better every day.
It might be helpful to have a list of the honest MPs. I can think of one, Hilary Benn. Are there others?
Hilary Benn for PM? — it would be an improvement on Mr Brown.
Oddly, Dennis Skinner.
There’s nothing honest about Skinner. He might not fiddle his expenses but he’s still a fucking liar and a scheming piece of shit who likes doing Brown’s dirty work for him.
A hyena would be an improvement on Brown.
Cant trust a man with a woman’s name.
The missing ‘l’ supposedly makes this name masculine – not entirely convinced, myself.
Sorry, Wyoming, but in England both male and female versions are spelt Hilary (from the Latin), as is the Hilary term (usually starts January 13th, the feast of St Hilary) in law courts and universities.
It’s only people like Hillllllary Clinton who started adding extra letters.
Dynasty…………….
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/schools/schoolgirl-politician-emily-benn-explains-why-shes-standing-for-parliament-840165.html
Dysentry.
“Son” of an absolute wanker
Prepuce drip.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-515178/Why-Hilary-Benns-family-home-saved-sea-nearby-harbour-abandoned.html
Benn, Alan Johnson and Ed Miliband were cited by the DT as the only cabinet ministers who were relatively clean. No doubt this is why Ed Miliband is on the Marr show now.
However, they are all professed socialists and members of the Labour party, and so unfit for, and incapable of, holding the office of PM.
We need Brown to go to the Palace and a GE now.
Ed Milligram on Jug-ear’s show was enthusing about electric cars being good for the environment. What does he think generates the electricity to charge them?
Yes.
They fail to tell you that the power station, mile for mile, is actually much more polluting than diesel or petrol.
However, we do need to research alternatives now while we still can burn diesel and petrol. My money is on hydrogen, but it needs serious research to make it truly safe.
Congratulations on the petition, Dr Jansons. Do you ever discuss applicability of RCTs with your mate Colquhoon? (Sorry that’s off-topic. Just wondered.)
Get a grip Kalvis.
He is as oleaginous as they come.
Frank Field?
Neil Gerrard. Lives in London, takes the tube to work.
Hilary Benn is a complete twat just like his father. Both want a defenceless Britain run by the unions.
You should get out a bit more…
All lefties need to be shot i’m voting for any party that promises this.
Looks like Blairites are being stuffed leaving the way clear for the axis of evil Balls and Cooper.
Balls and Cooper are not going to survive this debacle – I wonder where they are hiding this morning – how many homes do they own? That one will be interesting.
The Telegraph is saving all the dirt on these two for next Sunday’s bumper edition…
Does smell like that. Remember how the DT tried to protect McFilth and stictched GF up.
Unless they saving him for next week, it lools to me like the DT have done some kind of deal with Balls to keep him and his missus out of it. We should be able to tell when the expenses finally get published but by then it will all have blown over.
Blears is clearly being pushed into the limelight as a sacrificial lamb.
You little people should shut up. Just pay your taxes and do what we tell you.
Missed a Bund meeting have we?
I’m the man – oh yes I am.
You’re entitled to your opinion. The rest of us….
except your brother is a banana so what does that make you? The monkey?
Whatever happened to Bananarama – any hope of a comeback tour?
Now Baroness Thornton is being fingered:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6256710.ece
Conniving whore.
along with udderly disgusting
That is a corker – not as outrageous as Uddin but not far off.
Un-f*cking-believeable!! No wait, only too believeable. They all make me sick to the stomach when I consider how much I’ve worried in the past trying to find money to pay the tax man, only for it to be spent by this shower of shits.
So, Phil Woolas has now been outed as the MP with a fetish for tampons and women’s clothes.
How else can we view this? The rules state that MPs can only make claims incurred in pursuance of their parliamentary duties.
And he’s only operated within the rules, he tells us.
So his claims for women’s shoes, a bottle of nail polish, a ladies’ jumper, panty liners (urghh), tampons (gross) and nappies (for fuck’s sake) must have been for personal use.
The disgusting little pervert.
No wonder he looked a bit sheepish when the utterly fragrant Dame Joanna Lumley was dictating government policy on the Ghurkas to him the other day.
I’d like to see him forced to wear this shit – can’t imagine he’d give much realness.
Tampons plug the hole….. you would not SEE it.
nappies soak up the mess immediately after….. ugh
If he wants to flounce around in dresses, that’s his business. I’d just rather it wasn’t at our expense.
I’d love to see the lovely Lumley stand against him at the general election.
After her performance the other day in having the fucking hoon just stand their nodding in agreement as she told him what his policies should be, I think it would make for an interesting campaign…
Her campaign could just show the youtube/bbc clips over and over, cheapest election win ever.
Wonder if the eye-liner claim was his too?!
Andrew Marr on now. Having a go at the Torys are in trouble line.
He seems to have backed off a bit
WHERE ARE BALLS’N'BALLS ? I WANT BALLS ! ! !
The telegraph is saving all our crimes for next Sunday’s bumper edition…
Baroness Thornton puts the phone down:
When asked repeatedly about how she defined her mother’s bungalow as a main residence instead of her family home, she avoided the question and put the phone down.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6256710.ece
What’s this bitch’s number? I’ll try her.
Sun Headlines
“Mother Found Dead in the Woods Sensation!”
I think claiming for wreaths is a diversion. It depends if the wreath is being placed by themselves personally or on behalf of the constituency, people of the area, party or whatever. Does anyone think that the Ministers laying wreaths on the Cenotaph pay for them personally? They could have bought by someone in the constituency office on behalf of the MP and so put through with their accounts.
It’s a trivial thing and perhaps just indicative of the attitude where they claim everything possible.
Anything on Baroness Scotland yet? I just love her so much, wouldn’t want to see her hurt or ridiculed.
She’s troughing it big time. Arrogant, talentless bitch.
The Scotsman headlines
“Epidemic of Scotsmen Found Dead in the Woods Sensation!”
Why the Telegraph is trying to minimise gordon browns cleaning expense is beyond me, how on earth is cleaning essential to his being able to do his job, why couldn’t Sarah do the house work, and why has she not made contribution to the cleaning bill. also
What the main stream media wont be talking about unless the blogshere gives them no choice.
curtesy of political betting.
484. Will L May 9th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
I have looked into Brown and that Flat and effectively he and his wife have cashed it in now! Please follow the link to see why! The Press seems slow at understanding what they have done! It is grubby and they have withdrawn equity out of a property at Taxpayer expense!
http://tinyurl.com/qs8j78
by Martin Day May 9th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
As I said…. more digging to be done…… hope this gets picked up.
Exactly. The cnut has been living in a grace and favour since day one. Why the fuck is he claiming second home allowance.
Come out Gordo, we know you’re in there.
Lampost waiting….
I think until a few weeks back he was claiming second home allowance on his constituency property in Scotland too…
So he has two grace and favour homes (No.10 flat and Chequers estate), a Westminster flat which is rented out and a house in Scotland, none of which he pays for from his 196,000 pound salary….
I believe that “we” paid for his beard’s, sorry wife’s, flat to be cleaned before they lived together…who will rid us of this turbulant turd (and his bunch of thieving hoons and thieving opposition members)?
Ouch! This is one of the worst ones I’ve seen.
Basically he bought a flat in Westminster for 130,000 pounds, on which he claimed the second home allowance (whilst living in the grace-and-favour flat at no.11). In 1997 he sold 50% of it for 350 grand to LLoyds TSB in exchange for an annuity in his wife’s name. Right at the top of the property market. Normally annuities are not sold to 43 year olds but to pensioners as it gives an income for the rest of your life…
Something very very smelly about this one, I wonder if MSM pick this up what might become of the snot eating hoon?
He sold the share in the flat in 2007, having brought it in 1992.
Now why did I have 1997 on the mind..?
Of course it’s not essential to doing his job. It’s just another way of cleaning up at the taxpayers expense.
D’Ancona:
It also reminds me of Lewis Namier’s great work, The Structure of Politics at the Accession of George III, which examined the true motives of MPs – enrichment, advancement, the pursuit of contracts – and showed that “the seat in the House was not their ultimate goal but a means to ulterior aims”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5301176/MPs-expenses-Its-easy-to-blame-the-system-without-taking-responsibility.html
Lewis Namier:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Namier
Hoons.
Gray may be a skinflint but it’s hardly in the same league as claiming for food and other normal living costs.
Gordon Brown exposed as a two-faced, lying shit. Labour Party members please take note, this was one of your own that Brown stitched up:
- (Gordon Brown) Telephoned him (Peter Watt, Labour’s general secretary) to commiserate when he resigned, promising to “look after” him, but betrayed him within 24 hours by falsely suggesting that he had broken the law, triggering a police inquiry…….
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6256748.ece
I’m squeaky clean. Oink oink!
Squealy clean shurely?
You have to hand it to Adams and Maginnis don’t you? Learned fast about the ‘democratic process’. Arses firmly planted in Belfast, snouts in Westminster. Longest snouts in history, perhaps?
Caroline Flint is a fishwife with a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp, tree-trunk legs, and an arse like the back end of a cart-horse.
No, that’s my ex you’re describing.
You were married to that screeching old dog Flint?
You poor bastard!!
Does her minge really smell fishy as Damian mcBride reckons?
shit we must have the same ex
Sounds like the old bike I’m riding at the moment.
No it’s Phil Woolas that is the backend of a pantomime horse, as reported on Sky News.
At least CCHQ is back to playing the Torygraph like a fiddle (hattip Mr Brogan I presume) – where are all the details of the shadow cabinet most of whom Dave included are near the maximum on their 2nd home allowance.
Remember the whole system started back in the 1980s when it was invented as a way of giving restive Tory MPs some extra untaxed income without the bother of giving them pay rises in public.
Perhaps the less naive of Guido’s readers will realise that this is all being played out for party political purposes – and perhaps they should look at the cuts in salary nearly all Tory PPCs will experience should they get elected and think a little about the likely consequences.
If anyone really wants a solution to this problem it really is pretty strightforward – just apply the normal HMRC rules/practice for expenses of those working away from home (believe it or not there are some other prople in the country other than 650MPs who work away from home or need 2nd homes) and then treat any excess claimed as a deduction from the MPs salary. Any savings made less an appropriate deduction then might be used to increase the taxable salaries of full time MPs. If there was a will to do this – then the whole think could be sorted out in a couple of days.
All the present furore shows is that some MPs are more creative than others in coming up with appropriate justifications for their 2nd home allowances – the reality is that there is not one of them who could seriously justify claiming anything like the £24k maximum if they had to justify it to HMRC.
It’s more than creative accounting; it is corruption.
There’s a perfect example of the socialist conscience at work: fill yer boots with someone else’s money then blame the Tories for making you do it. Both ears and the tail for whoever brings down the first MP!
It’s fairly f*cking obvious that anyone buying a property that needs 20k of repairs straight away is milking the system. It it needs repairs from day one then they got it cheap and are using the allowance to make personal gains come resale.
I will vote for the first party that gets it’s own house in order and fires, and reports to the police, all of their corrupt MPs.
James Gray is a turd but his behaviour pales into insignificance compared to these thieving Labour ministers.
<>
Your Majesty,
Would you please dissolve your Parliament as a direct result of the corruption witnessed over recent days.
You could appoint a committee of senior military and police officers who have sworn Oaths of Allegiance to you – and task them with maintaining t eh operation of the country whilst specifically addressing the issue of MPs financial recompense for service.
I would strongly request that a major police investigation is established to examine the widespread prima facie evidence of deception, fraud and theft perpetrated by a large number of your MPs – with prosecutions taking place where the evidence exists.
I would suggest that it is clearly in the public interest to take this approach and cut out the cancerous tissue of rotten political corruption.
Once the task of reviewing the salary and benefits of MPs and Ministers has been completed, these terms and conditions can be published nationally.
Following this a General Election could be held with candidates invited to stand for selection and accept those Terms and Conditions by signing a contract of service – complete with caveats for professional codes of standards and behaviours.
Signed,
Your humble subject,
Finnpog
where are you camoron?
Get a grip you useless twat!
Are you Peter Hitchens, the two-faced little turd who ignores all Labour’s sleaze in today’s Mail On Sunday but launches a vicious attack on Cameron?
BTW Cameron has just announced he will oppose the post privatisation bill in order to defeat the govt and will then call for a vote of no confidence in Brown and his gang of crooks.
He’s got Brown over a barrel.
Are you Peter Hitchens, who ignores all Labour sleaze in today’s Mail on Sunday but launches a furious attack on Cameron?
Hitchens is doing a good job on Brown’s behalf.
Cameron is organising a vote of no confidence on Brown and his gang of crooks.
Hitcins is a lefty
Hitchens is a lefty but poses as right-wing. His role for Gordon Brown is to try to persuade Daily Mail readers not to vote Tory.
Most of them have seen through him by now and it’s about time the paper sacked him as he is just a joke.
He’s trying to think up an explanation as to why spending £24k a year on a 2nd home in Witney is justifiable.
If that’s the worst you can pin on him, he’s going to laughing all the way to the next election…and rightfully so.
A second home in his constituency, get a fucking grip zanulaba troll.
What’s sauce for the Goose will be tomorrow’s sauce for the Gander.
The outrage from the public is genuine, unprecedented and it has hammered Brown personally and New Labour collectively in the Polls in mere days.
That Public outrage will not develop a severe case of amnesia when the Shadow cabinet and Dave feels the heat of the spotlight.
Certainly some can be as partisan as they like on here crying “hang em high!” for the Hoons then mumbling about “nothing to see here” when it’s the Tories turn.
But the public won’t buy that kind of hypocrisy for a second.
This story is perhaps only half way done. (IF even that as some are saying the Telegraph is milking this for all it’s worth with maybe a THIRD Week planned)
I’m no troll. Nor am I Lefty – never have been.
But I am sick and tired of paying for “my party – the Tories” to oppose when they fail to oppose this traitor Government. We all know what these Socialist bastards stand for. They are and in places have destroyed our country, it’s identity, the moral fabric etc etc.
Back to useless Batman and Robin. No policies, weak ineffectual brainless, easily influenced front bench. At least one crook amongst them from his days past as a bagman. Just wait in the years to come for the real story to come out. (Abook is being currently written which makes mention of this individual).
They don’t have a bloody clue. Hardly ever have done a days work in the real world. I’m fed up with professional politicians.
There are millions who feel like me on this subject – so may I suggest politely that before you smear those that have a not unreasonable view, you take a good hard look at the facts.
I’m off to the Carlton next week to wind up the Cameroons or should that be Camerhoons.
Hopeless, the lot of them. They may well win the next election but we will all be disappointed. Trust me.
Lets face it nulabour were NEVER socialist.
And as for the Cameroons – well we all know the next govt is a Tory onew… but you all know that nothing will change.
Eveything will continue as “normal”.
There was some soppy sow MP on Radio 4 this am who is on Politics East show (BBC 1 East,I think 11 am today). She is a Luton MP, where she has a house, but her second home for which she claims money is in SOUTHAMPTON.
The explanation (lots of huffing and puffing self-righteousness) is that her “partner”-presumably “in crime”-works in Soton so she needs a house there for “family life”.
So not only do we pay for Smith’s old man’s masturbatory materials, we now have to pay for this slack Alice’s “getting laid” home.
That’s Margaret Moran MP, a ranting, odious, thieving, Labour piece of shit, who’s now claiming to be the victim.
You couldn’t make it up. These Labour scum are shameless, and have just voted themselves another £16million expenses!
This Moran woman needs some friends to tell her she’s finished, washed up, game over, lucky if she escapes prosecution.
A by-election in Luton could be very interesting.
Given the current resentment and political apathy, along with the local demographics, it’s just possible that the party no-one talks about would be in with a good chance of getting their first MP elected. I believe they already have a councillor there.
See dale’s blog.
No, he doesn’t work in Southampton. And even he did, why the fuck should I pay for him?
More on sleazy, lying Brown from today’s Sunday Times article on Labour’s former general secretary Peter Watt….
“- (Gordon Brown) Misled the public about the “election that never was”, the incident that shattered Brown’s reputation as a strong leader. “No matter what anyone says, the election had been called and was then cancelled. We had been working on it for weeks. We spent £1.2m in immediate preparations,” Watt said.”
Fucking dynamite!!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6256748.ece
Meanwhile the Tories are going to vote against Royal Mail privatisation and following a govt defeat, will call a vote of no confidence and try to topple the govt.
Great article……it is dynamite………. McBroon and Harman backstabbing their own loyal helpers.
Sunday morn’ head’s up.
Kevin Maguire is taking Andrew Pierce’s LBC Radio, (www.lbc.co.uk and SKY 154?) gig this morning, (11 -1pm).
Wonder if the 7 second dump button is being tested as we sepak?
Stephen Pound on Sky again this morning lying through his teeth as usual.
Why do Sky have this shithead on all the time? It’s every day at the moment.
To get his £50. He’s one that would cross the country for a few quid and get on TV – bit like Rifkind for the other side.
greedy, filthy, lying, cheating, self serving, mass-murdering, fraudsters & criminals. This is what British politicians have become.
I’ve never considered the death penalty for anyone before, but these traitors deserve a bullet in them. I know through my convictions one day they will be judged by a higher authority, I know they will burn for a long long time.
Hanging, the Tower, Guillotine, Tumbrils all better options.
The Fat Hoon :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1179989/MPs-Expenses-Tom-Watson-spent-M-S-store-gave-pizza-wheel-free-gift.html
MPs’ Expenses: Tom Watson spent so much at M&S that store gave him pizza wheel as free gift
The Minister for Digital Engagement faced further embarrassment last night after it was revealed that he and his flatmate, fellow Minister Iain Wright, have used parliamentary allowances to lavish more than £100,000 on their shared Central London home since the last General Election.
Mr Wright, a junior housing Minister, even asked the Commons fees office before he had purchased a property if he could buy furniture at taxpayers’ expense, saying he wanted to use up all of his allowance for the year.
In April 2005, two days after Tony Blair called an Election for the following month, he wrote to the fees office: ‘Feel like I’m bothering you all the time, but I don’t want to run foul of the regulations.
‘Today I’m putting in a claim for £1,811, which includes the £1,200 for things I’ve bought like bedding, kitchen equipment etc. I haven’t yet bought a house, although I’m in the very early stages.
‘It’s still OK to claim isn’t it? It seems stupid to carry it over into next year when a large chunk of my ACA would go unused.’
He was told he should wait until after the Election to see if he would be returned as an MP.
Both men later claimed for a half a share of the legal costs involved in the original purchase of their Westminster mansion flat and the fees involved in buying the freehold of the property.
By purchasing the freehold, the MPs will have added significantly to the value of the apartment, although they are under no obligation to pass on any of the profits to the taxpayer on selling the home.
Mr Watson, who employed leading lawyers Carter Ruck to deny any involvement in the recent Damian McBride email scandal, was last night reported to have said: ‘All claims were made under the rules set out by the House of Commons authorities.
‘I fully understand why the public expects the system to be reformed. I voted for this last week and only hope that the reforms can go even further as quickly as possible.’
Mr Wright is reported to have said: ‘As a new MP, I purchased furniture and electrical equipment once I was in the process of purchasing a half-share of a small two-bedroom flat in London.’
the most imortant story of the day is by Vincent Coughlin QC in The Times. In an article entitled “MPs expenses:the legal view” he says that it is the 2006 fraud act by which MPs should be judged and not the Green Book, this means MPs should be judged by a jury as to whether the expenses were “dishonest by the standard of reasonable and honest people”. He goes on to advise MPs to give the defence of “no comment”
We are all outraged by what has happened and I. Can see a lot of people think thAt MPs have got away with it by setting their own rules. This is not true. MPshave not rolled the constitution back far enough to protect themselves. We must remember that the judiciary also protects this country. In my reasonable and honest mind MPs have committed fraud we must hold them ALL to account. MPs who have abused the rules must be tried fir fraud in their local courts. The wheels of justice must start to turn.
Good luck finding 12 completely impartial people with no interest in seeing these thieving fucking hoons strung from lamp posts in Parliament Square.
That’s not true.
I’d be prepared to bend over backwards to find them innocent, it’s just that the evidence would force me to convict
Can’t say fairer than that
So…. we will know if they have something to hide if… “it was in the rules” become “no comment”
Whilst I welcome the legal advice I do not think we should be so accepting of their claim not to have broken their own rules. By my understanding they are clearly in breach of many of the guidelines in that book. Have just watched Andrew “tiger” Marr LOL. I have now reached the point where MPs denials are more annoying than the expense fiddles. They really have to go. I think the point of attack should be the fees office – they have two ways to go – they were complicit or bullied. If Andrew Walkers ‘friends’ are to be believed it was the latter and he should come out and say so – he can be National hero or strung up with the rest. The choice is his.
By the way can someone more technically able than me spoof the News of the Worlds ‘Live free like an MP for a year’ to show them in gaol. You know I think i’d even allow them the second homes allowance if it was in the scrubs! Pass the soap Gordon!
If you read the Mail piece the rot started with and continues to be the fault of a certain Scottish shop steward M Martin, contemptible tribal hoon that he is.
VC QC Our next leader of the house, I hope.
Someone at the Observer has it in for Purnell.
They lead the story..
“Taxmen to probe MPs over profits from home sales.” with a picture of Purnell but only at the very end of the article do they write that it is nothing to do with him. Nice.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/10/mps-expenses-jacqui-smith
Balls and McBride’s dirty work
Further shocking troughing stories here.
Alan Johnson must replace Brown immediately. Preferably with Cruddas alongside him as his deputy.
Brown will be kicked out after the June elections ;-)
Oh, I do hope not. He wanted this job so badly, now he’s got it. The only real satisfaction will be to witness him being dragged kicking and screaming, hair matted with his own faeces, from number 10.
The Romanians know a thing or two about how to deal with expenses claimants.
NO – election please.
John Reid made me/us pay for his glittery loo seat.
This is getting beyond parody.
I want all this stuff, bought with funds that MPs have stolen from the public purse, confiscated and sold at auction to help pay off Brown’s public borrowing to save the banks, so that instead we save today’s 5-year-olds from huge taxes when they finish full-time education in 2020.
Nothing’s going to happen to these thieving scum. They will brazen their way through it and carry on thieving from us for another 12 months until the election.
But it must look so classy – a BLACK GLITTERY loo seat – URGH
Let’s put all this loot in the Millenium Dome and open it as a museum to New Labour
What is it about Labour MP’s and bog seats?
One of the unsung rewards for being elected as an MP! Could it be that in their former lives they had never enjoyed the reassuring comfort of a broad wooden/plastic bog seat – it`s only natural that they would want to desist with plonking their arses directly onto cold and narrow porcelain edges at the earliest possible moment.
Isn’t it a disgrace all those Tories having second jobs. Labour MPs would never cash in like that!
Probably because LieBore MP’s are unemployable?
Can’t see many labour MP’s having second jobs. They are too thick and unemployable. Only skilled at fiddling…. still got sussed at that. Who would employ the likes of Prescott? only the labour party. What a bunch of useless arseholes!
Bit like some of the idiotic twats that voted for them.
We already have his Prescott’s CV.
Work is a four letter word for Liebor MP’s. They were brought up on a benefit dependency system and continue so when they get to Westminster. Labour councillors are just the same – screw the system for as much as they can
He is eating for two
http://juzzzy.blog.co.uk/2009/05/08/john-prescott-s-extraordinary-expenses-claim-for-two-faces-6081731/
It is impossible to believe that, particularly the BBC and other media political reporters, could not have been unaware of these “fiddles”. Can we have an explanation? And, following on from that, a full investigation of BBC finances and nepotism in that organisation and the over representation of Scots in both parliament and the Beeb.
This would surely be of interest to the long suffering taxpayers and help sell the dailies
Fenman – in 2006 a reporter in Westminster said to me “If you want sex, drugs and rock and roll join the Tories – if you want to get seriously rich join the Labour Party” All the hacks working at Westminster have known about this for years. These Labour MP’s love to brag and show off their new found wealth. There will be more and more stories in the next days and weeks – the dam has burst. Any Westminster journalist worth his or her salt will be coming up with new revelations.
Whats going on Andrew Marr show aint it meant to be about politics, one interview with Liam Fox?
although interesting, the Lancaster pilot was, but Felicity,
c,mon BBC you are wasting our time and our money produce what you are paid for, or do you no longer have capable people with the right qualities in investigative journalism, are you just so used to brown nosing, trotting out the government line, spoke to soon, little milliband on talking about…you got climate change ummph waiting for any question re the state of politics ..
BBC are desperately trying to distract from Labour’s growing sleaze problems.
Are you surprised.
One of Cameron’s first jobs in power: sort out the blatant political bias at the BBC.
And the BBC’s own massive fiddles
Agreed – shut down the BBC or at the very least remove the Licence Fee. Let them earn their way in the real world.
Early morning review of papers by BBC News – here’s a sample – papraplegic major completes marathon; Jeremy Clarkson doesn’t like the new electric car – er hang on a minute no mention of MPs expenses scandal – of course not – although in another piece dis-belief was expressed that no Tories of any note had been “outed”. “Wot NO Tories yet ?” was the cry ? Never mind the BBC will be satrurating the airwaves tomorrow when the Telegraph publishes the Tories saga of shame
The licence fee will have to be increased to take account of all the people who have stopped paying.
Those who continue to pay will have to pay more and more.
Stop paying now. It is a legitimate form of protest given that the BBC has become the Government’s mouthpiece.
Tackorama……
John Reid sent a bill for £199 pouffe and £29.99 glitter loo seat
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1179993/MPs-Expenses-John-Reid-sent-199-pouffe-29-99-glitter-loo-seat.html
Can we sack him just for extortionate ridiculous tacky taste?
I read that. Vince, the jury has already sat, deliberated, and we have reached a verdict. Took a while as there’s nigh on thirty million of us – sorry, only taxpayers get a say in this – but we are near-unanimous, and we say… oh fuck.. wehre’s my black hat? KIDS!! Where’s my black cap, have you been playing judge jeffries again?
A useful exercise would be to compile a list of possible “suspects” who if the disc on MPs’ expenses had fallen into their laps would have given it to The Telegraph for nothing;
Tony Blair
Sir Fred Goodwin
Damian McBride
Pam Warren…………..
I cant post on toilets blog,is it me or does the mirror have its fingers in its ears today?
ahha so we get some questions, what a grotty little oik that millie is urrggghhh, makes my skin crawl.
Cameron has nothing to lose in calling a vote of no confidence in the Govt, i mean whats the owrst that can happen, 12 more months of Brown holding on.
I think Cameron is doing it is a catch 22.
If they vote for a confidence motion and Brown wins, then no way they can get rid of Brown next month if Labour back him.
If he loses we get the election asap.
Might just be a smart move. Cameron can say the parliaments credibility is broken and an election should be called to allow the people the right of excercising their confidence as this affects the whole country.
Firstly – it’s a pointless exercise – the government will win and Brown can claim that he has the support of the House
Secondly – I think technically that if he loses there is actually no requirement to call an election. Didn’t Chamberlain lose a vorte of confidence and the Tory Party simply elected Churchill as Leader and PM afdmittedly we were engaged in a war but equally it could be argued that the same applies now given the horrendous economic mess we’re in. Alan Johnson would then be “shoe-horned” in to position as leader and PM.He could announce that he would go to the country within 6 months i.e. November.In the meantime he would try to limit the losses and hope for a bounce in the polls which could be expected on Brown’s departure. So from majority of 220(given to-days BPIX poll in the MoS) Cameron could be in hung parliament territory.Better to keep Brown in situ as a”hopeless case” and allow the Labour Party to do the deed post-June 4th which if Labour come third in the locals is inevitable. “Unnamed Sources” in the Labour Party are already briefing to that effect – Brown is already a “dead man walking” and even if he clings on there will be months of internal dispute which will further demoralise the Labour Party and ensure they’re unelectable for a decade !
There is a risk of serious public disorder if an election is not called immediately.
They will lose control completely if they are not careful.
By they, I mean the machinery of Government and those responsible for law and order.
Cameron has to make the post office vote (if it’s ever brought before the House, that is) THE confidence vote.
It would put the hundred or so Labour ‘rebels’ in a Catch 22. Do they really believe in keeping the post office a public institution or do they think retaining power at any cost is more important?
I know where my money is but it would require a hell of a lot of explaining by the rebels.
‘I’m just too honest’ says Phil Woolas who ‘claimed’ for women’s clothes
LOL
Truth is, he is a Tranny and was trying to morph into a Lumley lookalike. Bought the wrong colour nail varnish. Not a good start
“Stand by there with your face to the wall and think about what you have done- Philip”says Ms Lumley – “You have let down your class;your school and especially me. I am afraid I shall have to write to your mother asking her to call and see me! In the meantime I am afraid that you will have to stay where I can keep an eye on you ! And stop smirking out of that window. It is NOT funny !”
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/brown-engulfed-by-expenses-scandal-as-power-passes-to-joanna-lumley-200905081748/
Surprised he can prise his gobby mouth away from the public teat.
Woolas is staggeringly inept even by the pitiful standards of his confrères.
Doesn’t the hapless pillock know that he is simply cementing his reputation as “the MP who claimed Expenses on Womens clothing and Nappies” every time he bumbles onto the TV to try another feeble excuse ?
Where is your Libel action Mr Woolas ? Hmmm.. ? Don’t se the Telegraph quaking in their boots yet old son. Indeed it is raucous laughrter that you are eleiciting from that direction as you dig yourself deeper and deeper and deeper.
Imagine if you will the scene at the Election count as the returning officer for Oldham East and Saddleworth intones with import…
“Philip James Woolas, New Labour and Expenses for Womens clothing and Nappies Party.. 14 Votes.
All you lawyers on here.
Can’t we start a Class Action against the lot of them?
I’m a lawyer and I’m returning to the UK very soon having been kicked out of South Africa for reasons that I don’t intend to go into. I’m ready to sue anyone in the highest court in Christendom if they so much as mention my wife’s egregious attack on the servants.
However, I am unlikely to get involved in these totally unfounded allegations against my friends, and in anycase, will be on the first gravy train out of St Pancras.
Of course, my real name is Boateng, but that tends to get moderated.
actually its boa-constrictor and its feeding habits are why its been turfed out of Sarfrica.
Of course the beauty of living in a Democracy, is that every constituant Taxypayer now has the legal right to SUE his dishonest MP (2006 FRAUD ACT, sections 2&4) to recover Public Monies from his bank account…. and can even claim free Legal Aid while doing so.
Can any of you legal eagles out there expand on this, proceedures involved etc. And would anyone support a No 10 petition to stop MP’s being able to call themselves hounarable, as they are most certainly not.
Make that Honourable.
HOONourable, surely..? :-D
Hoonerable?
Hoonarable, perhaps?
HOONrabble
Hoonarable
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5293320/MPs-expenses-A-Z.html – This A-Z of items claimed for is worth viewing, even though the claimants have their anonimity protected.
Why is that then?
Picture of Flint on the couch in the observer has following caption:
“Caroline Flint wears: red dress, £180, Karen Millen, 0870 160 1830; shoes, £70, Topshop. Photograph: Georgia Terry”.
Think the 250 quid rig out was on expenses? Or did Woolas claim it for her?
Especially when the byline says…
“Now Caroline Flint is minister for Europe – and the only MP who could pull off a £30 dress.”
“Now Caroline Flint is minister for Europe – and the only MP who could pull off a £30 dress.”
Prezza could pull it off.
Perhaps she’s thinking about her career – post-election ? The possibilities are endless
She’ll only be fit to be a porn slapper
Kitty Usher : ‘Please pay as much as you are able!’
The total hoonette.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1179990/MPs-EXPENSES-Kitty-Ussher-claimed-20-000-bad-taste-Artex-ceilings.html
Work and Pensions Minister Kitty Ussher spent £20,000 of taxpayers’ money giving her London home a makeover – and even asked officials: ‘Please pay as much as you are able!’
The 38-year-old sent the Fees Office a letter within a year of being elected MP for Burnley in 2005, asking exactly what she could claim for on her Victorian terrace property in Brixton, South London – where she had already lived for five years.
Not only a “hoonette” but a “gobby hoonette” to boot
The poor folk of Burnley must now be proud of her. Guess why Burnley and Blackburn are such so depressed….. Lancashire deserves (and needs) better than Ussher and Straw.
…she was in the Treasury at the time working on Dust and Broom’s budget
I’ve mentioned that James Gray is asking for the Camp Bastion war memorial in Afghanistan to be moved to his constituency after its closed as a mark of respect. See that on http://www.oberonhouston.com or go to Gray’s site directly to read more http://tinyurl.com/q5lse2 Wonder if the Army will take him up on the kind offer?
I’m sitting here while a plasterer is skimming two of my artexed ceilings – costing me £500 out of my already taxed income- Bastards
You are into the wrong kind of skimming. My condolences.
————–BREAKING NEWS————BREAKING NEWS ———
YVETTE COOPER MAY BE A MAN FURORE.
The corridors of Westminster were reeling today amid speculation Cabinet Minister Yvette Cooper may actually be a man. Suspicions were heightened when it emerged Ms Cooper was the only MP not to claim for tampons.
Said one male backbencher “ it just doesn’t make sense you can claim for all manner of ladies’ toiletries within the rules and she hasn’t. I certainly know I’ve maxed out on everything I can – panty liners, lip gloss, ladies razors , the lot. It’s a kind of insurance if I lose my seat as I’ll have a ready stocked drugstore next day !”
Rumours Ms Cooper was Ed Ball’s catamite can be robustly dismissed. Though one constituency worker did notice “ We have some immigrants from Afghanistan who keep winking at Ed and asking where they can get one . Apparently it’s something to do with missing home comforts”
Back in the Mother of Parliaments MPs remain confused. One theory is that Cooper, desperate to become an MP , couldn’t get past all female selection committees and hence was forced to develop a new identity. A new Labour Government would plan to introduce more radical transgender legislation allowing many MPs – including some leading Tories- to reveal their true nature to the electorate. Sensationally the transspecies provisions of the bill may even prove aliens exist with Tom Watson being the son of Jabba the Hut.
ha ha ha
Very good.
That’ll be Jabba the Pizza Hut.
Old stinky one eye up to his neck in it then. Credit to Watt.
Even though undoubtedly there may be some tory rotten apples, it seems to me that by the very composition of parliament the degree of labour sleaze must inevitably vastly outweigh that of any other party in proportion to the number of sitting MPs.
Liebour really are toast. it’s a good job they’re all so cute at property development. I don’t think there will be many other careers open to them after the next election. I can’t wait to see Jacqboot queuing up at the local dole office and sending in her tax statements having to account for every penny – or Jack Straw getting nasty letters from his local DHSS office.
Justice ho your Maj, please dissolve parliament and call and election.
Explains why Broom and Dust was so keen on stoking the property bubble.
Perhaps we could ask our elected representatives what they don’t understand about the words “morally indefensible” ?
Words of one syllable pleeze
No queztions – fuck off will do nicely.
The prime duty of the public is to protect parliament. What can the public do to achieve this?
One suggestion would be to identify the ‘honest’ politicians and get them to ask each and every MP in parliament a question, phrased in such a manner, that their anwer will determine if they are lying to parliament about their claims, which, I believe is legally the same as lying in court which is a criminal offence. Thus making another route for dishonest MP’s to end in jail.
Perhaps we the People should demand that the rediculous and archaic tems ‘Honourable’ and ‘Rt Honourable’ be suspended until this mess is sorted out and the worst offenders identified, pilloried and sacked.
The correct term is the ‘Hoon’ MP or the ‘Right Hoon’ MP.
Guys, the only way you will get an early general election and force these nobs out is not through petitions, but by a prolonged general strike. Nothing else will force Gordon Brown’s hand and I mean NOTHING.
They are all too thick skined and narrow minded for any other form of action to work on them. Getting people to sign petitions is all well and good when you live in a true and fair democracy, but unfortunately we don’t. Direct action in the form of strikes, is the only way to achieve your goals.
If you want these cretins out, we need a general strike. Otherwise it’ll just be the same old apathetic English mentality. Whine and moan, but don’t actually take any action and that’s what these hoons are hoping for, that our anger will dissapate and we will vent spleen on these message boards and so on, but won’t do anything which might actually force their hands.
Come on everyone the MPs expense claim rules are easy to understand.
Here they are:
The Basic Rules of MPs Expenses
This game is played with different teams each comprising various numbers of players on each side (but currently no more than 646 players in total from all teams), with no umpires nor referees, only a monitoring parliamentary fees office, It is played in a rectangular shaped hall called the House of Commons. Each player is called either an Honourable Member, or an MP. The size of the hall does not vary and it is always the same hall. An expense claim is rectangular shaped and white in colour. A fully-blown expense claim can cost up to £24,000. An expense claim is made of dubious figures, questionable receipts and covered with padding, and is then sewn up. An expense claim weighs around 10 ounces.
In the middle of the hall is what is known as the pitch (at one end is the Bar of the House, while at the other is the Speaker’s Chair). The pitch is a hard, flat strip of dry ground around 18 metres long. Two batting MPs are at the pitch at a time, both at opposite ends, with one facing the delivery of the expense claim from the bowler. The bowler runs up to the pitch where he bowls the expense claim overarm with a straight face. Further details on the correct bowling action can be found here:
http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/HofCpsap.pdf
Teams score by getting expense claims paid. An expense claim is paid when a batting MP (batsman) signs the claim and then runs to the other end of the pitch, getting past the Speaker’s Chair. The non signing MP has to run to the opposite end as well. The MPs can claim as many times as they like, but the MP can get out if their dispatch boxes are hit with the expense claim by an opposition MP before the MP reaches the Speaker’s Chair. The dispatch boxes are two boxes of equal size measuring around 45 centimetres tall with a sword’s length separating them. Briefing bails (small pieces paper containing information for recycling) are balanced on top of dispatch boxes.
Other ways expense claims can be paid are by hitting porkies. Porkies are paid when the expense claim is signed and touches or goes past the outer edge of moral acceptability. Four hundred pounds (£400) are scored when the MP signs the expense claim and the expense claim hits the ground before reaching the outer edge of the moral acceptability, and six hundred pounds (£600) are scored when the expense claim is signed and goes over the outer edge of morally acceptability without touching the ground. Expense claims can also be scored in the following ways: No check, when the bowler oversteps the crease, bowls in a dangerous manner or incorrectly, or when the parliamentary fees office is out at lunch or during the whole of March. A no check is worth one hundred pounds (£100). A wide is scored when the expense claim goes outside the line of the pitch before coming in line with the batsman. This is also worth one hundred pounds (£100). A leg bye is scored when the expense claim hits the batsman but does not contain his/her signature and then proceeds to run. A bye is scored when the batsman runs without the expense claim coming into contact with his signature or the parliamentary fees office.
The fielding team can get the batsman out in several ways, by 1) catching him out. This is done when the batsman signs the expense claim and a fielder catches the expense claim on the full (without bouncing). By 2) bowling the batsman out. This happens when the bowler bowls the expense claim and the it strikes the batsman’s dispatch box or briefing bails. By 3) leg before dispatch box, or LBDB. This happens when the bowler bowls it and the dispatch box being hit by the expense claim are prevented when the batsman’s leg gets in the way. By 4) stumped, when the batsman comes forward to hit the hit but steps out of his crease, misses the expense claim and the fielder behind the dispatch box collects the expense claim hits the dispatch box before the batsman gets back behind his crease. By 5) run out, when the batsman attempts to score a run but has his dispatch box hit by the expense claim before he reaches the other crease. By 6) Hit wicket, when the batsman hits his own dispatch box while trying to sign the expense claim. By 7) retired, when the batsman voluntarily decides to finish his innings by resigning their House of Commons seat, and 8 ) timed out, when the next batsman doesn’t appear on the pitch within two minutes of the last batsman getting out.
Each team has one innings. This innings can last anything from 20 overs (a series of 6 bowls by a bowler) to an five year match. Most one day matches are played with each side having 50 overs (or 300 expense claims). If 10 of a team’s batsmans are out, the innings ends there regardless of how many expense claims are left to be bowled.
The team that gets the most expense claims paid in their innings is the team that wins.
All the shop stewards are in the House
I am not a shop steward, but we see it time and time again that the only peaceful way to force the governments hand is through direct action. Complaining and moaning about how corrupt and sleazy our MP’s are wont change Jack. In fact, although MP’s will give out platitudes about how they know how the British public must be feeling, and how they admit they’ve been a bit naughty, not one of them will do the honourable thing and resign or give the money back.
They know we are disgusted and angry but I’ll bet you any money that they will also be expecting us to do the typical English thing of rant and whine for a week or so, then move on and not challenge them directly. They are banking of the good ol’ British apathy to let this blow over soon. If we really do want to get these money grabbing scumbags out sooner than 2010, we will have to do something far more radical than sign online pertitions, which don’t do anything.
I’ll say it again, direct action is the only way to bring about change.
A slow and peaceful march of a million people down the Mall to Buckingham Palace. There, a two-minute silence in memory of honest hard-working MPs. Finally, a Great Lamentation lasting for an hour in which the multitude gnash their teeth and wail to the heavens, appealing to Her Majesty to do her constitutional duty.
Unfortunately, your plan has one flaw. There is no such thing as a peaceful protest in the UK anymore – the marchers will inevitably be assaulted by the ZanuLabour’s suborned and Politicised police force
Did the Midget Chipmunk offset reimbursed expenses against her £45k profit?
Did the Ultimate Hoon?
If either (or others) offset reimbursed expenses against any CGT, they have committed fraud.
Selling and buying again once might be considered acceptable.
Doing it 3 times is a business and HMRC should look at it that way.
Just BTW, the news summary at the end of Jug Ears show this morning (deliberately?) misquoted Liam Fox as saying he feared ‘only rich people could become MP’s’. He didn’t say that, but oddly it is one of the justifying arguments/lies used by ZaNuLieBor c.unts!
Odd that!
Does the tax man automatically investigate any apparent deception that comes to light? Or do we have to request they investigate each and every transgression individually, e.g. Blears avoiding CGT by telling the tax man the opposite to her expenses claim? I hope someone, somewhere is organising this. It would be great to see many of these ministers kicked out at the next election, jobless, and with a big tax bill. I hear the number of bankrupts is climbing due to our Great Leader’s end to boom and bust.
55,805
Get ‘im.
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/please-go/
Don’t forget the new one, challenge is to get this to #2 before PMQs on Wednesday :-)
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/GoToCountryNow/
“We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to call a general election immediately.”
Err, yes they do eat 300% more than us. Most of them are fat gits.
British MPs don’t do morality, but if they did they’d be the most immoral bunch of Hoons in the country.
Publish all the details now, give the public a week to talk it over in the pub, then a general election
We need the general election delayed a bit longer, time for a lot of independent candidates to make their mind up and prepare for a campaign.
Wouldn’t it be great to see a couple of hundred independent MPs in holding the final voting power in a hung parliament? Hardly anything could ever get done because it would take so long to get the votes necessary, hooray!
Easy. Picture posters of kitkats and bathplugs will produce a walkover everywhere
And I see that Hazel Blears is now listed as Minister for Tax Dodging in Wikipedia
Hazel Blears has voted on key issues since 2001 as follows:
Voted for introducing government registers on everyone in Britain backed up by ID cards.
Voted for introducing foundation hospitals.
Voted for introducing student top-up fees.
Voted for the Iraq War
Voted against investigating the Iraq war.
Voted for replacing Trident.
Voted for the hunting ban.
Voted for equal gay rights.
8.1 “You shall not profit at the taxpayers expense”
Rare fottage. Scroll down
Hazel Blears not grinning now
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8042214.stm
Crumbs..I’ve never seen her without that sickening perky grin on her face before…things must be bad :-)
The article says
“She later said she understood “why the public hates this”, adding that ordinary people should be drafted in to help come up with a fairer system.”
What is wrong with the system they make us use?
http://timworstall.com/2009/05/10/dear-lord-above/
has this little gem
Under HMRC rules, expenses are taxed unless they are “wholly, exclusively and necessarily” incurred in the course of employment. MPs voted themselves a special tax break in the Income Tax Act 2003, which means they are exempt.
I wonder how we could come up with a fairer system? Difficult isn’t it?
If she understands why the public hates this, why did she continue to fill her boots at the public’s expense? Has she really got so little grasp of morality that she has to be told when something is wrong?
Blaming the rules as she and others are trying to do is pathetic and shameless. Business as usual then.
Hello Ms Blears, I’d like a word with you
Yes you’re quite right Ms Blears, it’s all within the rules that you created.
I’m not a big football fan, but I believe the cry is “It’s all gone quiet over there”
Old and shrivelled more prune than crunchy hazelnut.
But she hasn’t drunk the hemlock.
Guido, I am very impressed with your ‘awaiting moderation’ system.
It is well-known that hemlock has been used as a sedative and for its antispasmodic properties, which takes away a lot of pain caused by wearing itchy clothes like sack-cloth and ashes without make-up when talking in front of the TV cameras.
It should never be ingested by polticians who have principles, as that can lead to death in some cases, but that is not the case here, as we all know.
Is ‘frottage’ similar to the actions carried out by Dick Timney-Five Bellies Wanker?
Only askiing!
Personally speaking I think our hardworking MP’s are worth every penny, and I will certainly be celebrating with a quick wank.
Apologies if this has been posted already, but it’s dynamite for Bliar.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5301764/MPs-expenses-Tony-Blair-facing-questions-over-the-296000-mortgage.html
This is clearly not a mortgage taken out to pay for the second home, so hard to see how it could possibly comply with the Green Book.
Hazel Blears considers a change of career
I demand to be probed by the police. And the taxman. After all, I’ve nothing to hide, especially from half a dozen strapping Policemen!!
Toodleoo
You’re looking very shiny lately.
It’s Reinaldos special face cream. Keeps me looking lovely!
If these tossers had put the same energy into running the country as they have into troughing, just think what could have been achieved.
On second thoughts, we’re talking about New Labour here aren’t we?
UPDATE : Talking of Tom Watson, after reading the above a co-conspirator emails;
The first time I met him, after many bottles of vino and hours of him talking to my tits…….
Tom Watson, the odious hoon. At least he’s not a Mandy-boy!
Kevin Maguire on LBC at 11.OO .Phone in show so fill your boots.
call 0845 60 60 973
In my job I have to do a lot of research.
Has anyone heard any of them say “Sorry” or even “this is regrettable”? Anyone at all?
Nope. A lot of them seem to genuinely think that they have done nothing wrong.
No – you see the problem is they think the rest of the country is on the fiddle as well.
So they cannot understand what they interpret to themselves, rather conveniently, the mass outbreak of fabricated outrage.
they underestimate us at their peril this time methinks! Was earwigging in the pub last night – every conversation was slagging the government off! Blears got lots of mentions…!:-)
They have a large order of ’sorry for your bad news’ cards on order from John Lewis and will be sending them to each other just as soon as they have found out which houses they are all hiding in at the moment.
i would be surprised if the petition http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/GoToCountryNow/ goes above the resign one as I suspect channels into No 10 and the cabinet office are blocked
I signed it and am still awaiting an email to confirm
Some suggestions for some brand new day time TV shows which follows the stories of desperate MP’s trying to cash in on their property investments before it’s too late. Something like – “Hoons under the hammer”, “Ready Steady Cook the books”, “Flog it quickly!”, “Build a new life in a different country” and last but not least “Time’s up team”
Or a show devoted to the joys of “Flipping” called “Second Home Relocation Relocation Relocation” It could be presented by that master of financial probity Alistair Darling.
I C Liam fox is doing the TV slots telling peeps not to get excited about MPs expenses.
Que a load of Cameroons to be next on the expose list.
We probably won’t hear about Tory troughing until just before the Euro elections.
What do we expect. The Commons was taken over by a tight fisted Scottish mafia in 1997. Martin is just one example of a thieving jock.
When they’re not handing around cashpoint machines stinking of spewie asking for change the’re ruining the English economy.
Bloody shame that Blears had her fingers in the till. There was me thinking that there was at least one honest Labour MP.
I wonder if Gordon has stitched her up?
Moron’s partner on Luton electoral roll:
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2009/05/true-home-of-mr-margaret-moran.html
Well done – good sleuthing.
She can’t even lie efficiently!
Sir Stuart Bell is on Sky talking bollocks again. ‘All will be good in the future’.
It’s all the Telegraph’s fault for breaking the DPA. What a dickhead.
Oh, and now he’s claiming it’s against the Official secrets Act. Dickhead
have they no idea how this bellyaching makes them look even worse? Who the hell is in charge of the spin at the mo?
Ask him about his son’s conviction for theft of cheques from MPs Portcullis House office.
Stuart Bell on Sky News now bleating about how these expenses were leaked. FUCKING KUNTE. They just don’t get it do they?
don’t they realise it just makes them look worse? moaning about the fact that we all now know what they’ve been up to? Yet its all “within the rules”, so what’s the problem? They really do beggar belief.
Don’t vote it just encourages them! And as for democracy read Robert Reich. Must go I know you are all missing me!!!
I think they are trying to silence the Telegraph. The paper said yesterday that it had a good deal more to reveal over the next few days.
But silencing them now will just make it look far far worse, surely? And as they’ve done the Cabinet, and not the Tories yet, what more could there be that they don’t want out?
Exactly – it would look bad and they know it, which makes me think that what remains to be revealed must be pretty grim.
Sorry – didn’t see yours. Bell has now announced an independent auditing body. The old “review” trick. Too late. Cat, bag, out.
What we need is a gallows being built in Parliament square
This would by the Stuart Bell who hired his own son to “work” at the commons ?
The same son who then ended up arrested and charged for stealing £2000 while he was employed as a “researcher” ?
Why can’t these interviewers do some background once in a while ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1766321.stm
Can’t anyone bring up this shocking hypocrisy when he is wheeled on as an apologist to stop the mans rampant horsesh*t ?
Sir Tinkerbell on Sky now hooning the government line, new rules. Toerag.
Were any of the Politicians at the Rangers Celtic game? Did they get booed or cheered?
Of course, it really doesn’t matter what you lot say, it’s just chatter doesn’t matter to absolutely anybody – this whole thing is just an awful waste of time and you are all being manipulated anyway – and I need sleep…goodnight.
Check out the fat Liebour bitch on BBC 1 now saying that WE should pay for her Southampton house to be repaired so she can have shagging weekends with her ‘partner’
I don’t give a fuck about your private life bitch. If you don’t like being an MP then resign.
who is she shagging in southampton then as Ian Dale has shown her partner lives in Luton.
PS dont agree with partners they even ask me on government forms and I dont fill it in. I have a wife not a partner and she has a husband.
Make a comittment and marry otherwise fuck off.
I don’t understand… they keep saying everything they have done is above board and they have done nothing wrong, and the rules must be changed urgently. If what they have done is OK, why do the rules need changing? Do our esteemed leaders lack the self control to simply not exploit every loophole in the green book?
If the green book needs changing because it is bringing parliament into disrepute then all those claiming allowances ‘that must be changed’ must by definition also be bringing Parliament into disrepute. I think there are rules about that, aren’t there?
Why does the UK need so many MPs?
80% of their work is rubber stamping EU stuff.
The USA runs its affairs with a lot less senators and congressmen than the UK has MPs and Lords in Westminster.
We don’t need them all do we?
Why does the UK have so many MP’s? To absorb the available expenses.
Tessa Jowell now trying to defend the fat Luton bitch. Fuck off Jowell you useless KUNTE
Jowl and Snout in trough big time with her hubby
I wouldn’t mind paying MPs an awful lot of money if they weren’t such a bunch of unrepresentative wankers ( 60k ain’t very much for an executive role nowadays).
If only they’d do what the majority want them to then Britain would be great once more.
Don’t bank on this ever happening. I think our patience is going to be tested to destruction.
What a crap artist you are Guido, begrudging a chap his measly 2 dinners a day rations.
AS for tits, mate, that your so called co-conspirator rattles on about , I want everyone to know, that Andrew Porter has shit tits, even after 6 bottles of expensed wine!
Have a good weekend. I know I will.
Fucking Jowell to Sopel. Basically shut your gob and leave it to ‘us’ to srot it out (which means brush it under the carpet)
Fuck off Jowell.
Time to get a Sunday morning rant off my chest.
Let’s start by saying that MP’s from all parties are guilty of expenses abuse.
But the party in power are the ones who should receive the bulk of our criticism as they were the people who had the chance to reform the system and chose not to.
It’s revealing to study the gulf between the presentation of “New Labour” in 1997 and the reality of their period in office.
Mr Blair told us they would be” whiter than white”. He even told us he was a pretty “straight sort of guy”.
Both these statements are manifestly false as shown by the lies about Saddam’s WMD’s, the resignations of Ministers for incorrect behaviour (Mandelson and Blunkett), the use of spin to distort facts, the use of smear to trash both Labour and opposition politicians, the re-announcement of policies to disguise the absence of new policy initiatives, the failure of Ministers to resign for mis-leading the House (Byers)…….
And then there is the issue of in-fighting between the Blair and Brown camps which still continues to this day. The truth is that Blair ceded control on the economy to Brown to keep him out of his hair. Big mistake that as Brown has trashed our national finances.
Here is a PM who has ruined our private pension system, stealth taxed us to death, destroyed the national finances, appointed total incompetents (eg. Jacqui Smith) as Ministers but thinks it is perfectly acceptable for the over-loaded taxpayer to pay the cost of his char.
It’s bloody outrageous. Where in the Green Book is there a form of words which can be interpreted to permit the cost of your char as an allowable expense?
When it comes to screwing the taxpayer Brown has been relentless. When it comes to his own affairs he takes a very different view. Or maybe not. Just another chance to shaft the taxpayer.
Why should we pay for gardening costs and a new kitchen in his constituency house? Oh, I can already hear the sound-bite response, “Because it’s in the rules”.
Well at least that makes a change from “You know it’s the right thing to do”. Or maybe this is part of Broons policy to buy our way out of recession.
He claims to have ended “boom and bust”. Bollocks. What he may have ended though, albeit unwittingly, is the culture of “McBroom and Dust”.
Thing is many of the cheats are Ministers who are VERY WELL PAID. The BBC seem to forget that.
snoteater has form empty bottles to student parties, “student guide to ripping off benefits”
Blairs 300k mortgage story looks like an openand shut case of fraud. He should be tried in court first.
It’s not just the dodgy deal to get Sarah’s flat cleaned too, it is that as Chancellor and then PM he has flats in Downing Strasse so should not be able to claim on a second home London property AT ALL.
The Penguin
So basically what they’ve done is to pay billions to an unholy dogs bollocks of quangos, consultancies and civil servants to run the country, ‘cos they obviously didn’t have a fucking clue, while they concentrated on personal enrichment.
My feelings exactly. But who is going to untangle it all, and how long will it take? Meanwhile, the country keeps on borrowing to subsidise the non-productive bull____ merchants. Grrrr…
I’m waiting for the “they are picking on us coz we iz women” crap to start
Stuart Bell had a great time in Ireland.
Margaret Moran has just destroyed her political career on BBC Politucs Show – the full version has yet to be shown on Look East segment “Will you resign over this ?” “No why should I it is all within the rules !”
Subsequently Tessa Jowell defending it to Jon Sopel
Sopel: “Why won’t you condemn her action !”
Tessa: “Jon I think it is very important to avoid trial by media..It is not for ME or anyone else to involve myself in a trial by media!”
Sopel: “Will the whip be withdrawn ?”
Tessa: “No!”
Sopel ” Ok you say it’s within the rules but is IT morally defensib;e ?”
Tessa: “Jon – as I’ve said it’s not for me to condemn individual MPs or indulge in trial by the media”
Sopel: “Well will you apologise?”
Tessa: ” What I DO regret is that Parliament and Politics have been brought into dis-repute by these reports in the media!”
Says it all really – THEY simply have absolutely NO idea of the intense anger over this in the country AND of course WHY would they apologise/ “It’s within the rules !”
moran is a fuckwit. But remember Luton is a strong Liebour heartland. Liebour people would vote for a piece of dry dog shit or vomit if it had a Liebour rosette on it.
Howthat silly fat bitch thought that WE are responsible for her sex life (she wanted a house in Southampton to use for her private life)
Fucking unbelievable.
Its also home to the Nu Liebour M*ozz*ie br*igade which demoed against the troops when they returned from Afghanistan and marched in the city.
Not true. Her constituency has gone the same way as the country as a whole in every election since 1951. Not only that, she voted strongly for the Gulf war, and against an inquiry into it, which will not go down with the nearly 20% of her constituents who are Muslim. She is history.
421 sorry but Jack Straw has a large muslim population and he was Foreign Secretary for the Iraq war. He was voted back in in 2005.
Labour voters have No morals, just look at Scotland
Ah Tessa.
She of the ‘hear no evil see no evil’ approach to corruption in married life. How is David Mills doing these days?
Mills convicted wasn’t he?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/feb/17/david-mills-silvio-berlusconi-trial
Ms Jowell continues to benefit from the proceeds of crime.
“I think it is very important to avoid trial by media.”
Then what about your cabinet colleague Harmon’s precious “court of public opinion” Tessa, you very stupid woman?
Labour = The “Do As We Say Not As We Do” Party
Then let’s have a trial by criminal court
Time for trial by General Election. Trial by Jury to follow.
Rumour is there may be even more to Campbell and Clarke’s cry for a Telegraph “spoiler” on Expenses by releasing them early.
More to the point the Telegraph aren’t the only people with these Expenses to hand as the spinners in New Labour may just decide to Fax a few of the choicest Tory ones to friendly sources for Red Top circulation if Mandy and the gang don’t think the Telegraph are being sufficiently harsh in Tomorrow’s Telegraph Tory exposure.
One way or another they are all coming out.
Those who can convince the public they are “clean” and willing to show it by returning money as opposed to spouting platitudes will reap massive rewards come the Election.
umm… Not quite.
Those who are ‘clean’ will have no money to return. Those who have been cheating the people who elected them and try and wriggle out of it by returning money can expect to be booted out no later than the general election.
Would you forgive a burglar if the police saw him walking down the road with your laptop, he apologises to the policeman and offers to return it to you..??
A fair point but I was speaking as a collective rather than the actual individual clean MP’s. My fault, I should have been clearer. Whichever Party has the harshest Sanctions and most far reaching reforms will reap massive rewards at the Genereal Election.
But this is indeed only made with the proviso..
The Public has to actually BELIEVE them.
I myself can’t think of any other way the public will swallow any of the Leaders professing disgust or a desire to change other than it being in action involving the return of cold hard cash.
But I suppose Brown or Cameron or Clegg could try platitudes and hand wringing and see how far that will get them.
I totally agree that even this “after the fact” return would be morally questioniable at best, but even that will be a step too far for the immoral greedfilled Swine now in residence at the Commons.
Return public money ? They would rather die at the Ballot Box first.
The first leader to make a stand and go with the public opinion by getting rid of these hoons gets my vote too :-)
Unbelievable how some Tory posters on this site are coming to the defence of James ’shithead’ Gray! It’s not the amount of money that’s important, it’s the whole rotten concept of somebody as well-heeled as he his, moaning that he cannot get a refund for such an item as a wreath. The man is every bit as bad as all the other pigs – morally he’s even worse. A foul man who likes to play on his miltary leanings and reflected glory of the brave dead at ceremonies etc yet objects to paying for something so trivial in cost yet so important in symbolism – Gray is an abominable shit!
The military ceremony: “When many cowards become braggarts but all the true heroes are dead.”
Almost ALL MPs – are at this pigs in trough game so let’s not just castigate the Labour ones – as disgusting as they are!
Wh o is defending him? i’m not. He’s a twat.
Who is defending him? I’m not. He’s a twat.
I’m glad you’re not, but read some of the previous postings and you will see that some are justifying him or trying to lessen his appalling behaviour.
I’m a Tory Supporter and I for one think the bloke should have the whip withdrawn and be deselected – pigs with snouts in troughs do not differentiate on party lines when freebies are being given out. I also await the Tories Rogues catalogue with interest. I already have my suspicions of exactly who will be on it – they still haven’t realised that the “Thatcher Years” are OVER and think that they should live the “high life” courtesy of the tax-payer instead of paying their way themselves whilst moaning that at £64,000 a year they’re NOt paid enough – they need to realise the tectonic plates of politics have shifted irrevocably for Tories as well as Labour
I don’t think there’s any intention of defending James Gray. He sounds like an odious hoon.
Previous posters are pointing out that it is *OUR* tax money that is being spent on wreaths.
If you don’t agree with *OUR* tax money being spent on wreaths then please say so.
I was thinking along the same lines but in the end could not be arsed with the tory diehards on this site, they run as a pack, got no individual thoughts; morals don’t count so long as their party gets the power.
Thievin’ Scum are Thievin’ Scum whichever party they support and the Tories have a few pompous self-opinionated buffoons and expertsat working the claims system to their advantage too whilst saying “I have claimed everything in accordance with the rules!”. They need to be booted out on their arses too !
P.S.
By the way I do want Brown and Labour out of government because I think that they are now genuinely unable to get the country out of the mess we’re in but equally when people of ANY party are taking the piss and spending my taxes I want them out too !
Who his defending him? Where? Or are you just a Labour troll?
I am defending him. We ask him to lay the wreath on our behalf. I bet he lays many on our behalf so does he pay for all of them? Would you? its riduculaous to think so. Go troll elsewhere and make it a bit more effective next time.
What a twat Jowell is. “Only Government can make peoples life better” she spouts. No jowell, all government does is make peoples life worse.
Still look on the bright side the value of her Shipston-on-Stour property has dropped drastically since her neighbours decided to build a “Gypsy Encampment” next door. It always brings a smile to my face as I pass by the JCBs parked outside her drive.Heh! Heh! Heh!
Sums up the Hoons
BOOKMAKERS William Hill believe that MPs will brazen out the current expenses furore and that NONE of them will resign as a consequence before the end of July.
Hills are offering 3/1 that one or MPs will quit, citing the expenses issue as the reason, but 2/9 that none at all will go. ‘MPs seem united in their determination to brazen out the virtually universal condemnation on the grounds that everything they have done is within the rules – albeit rules they have made themselves’ said Hill’s spokesman Graham Sharpe. ‘If one were to quit it would be seen as proof that they were all guilty.’
http://www.williamhillmedia.com/index_template.asp?file=12400
If you fancy it, you’d have to phone tomorrow morning I guess.
I’d take 3/1 that at least one MP resigns, Cameron or Clegg will make sure of that.
The Opposition need to take the moral high ground and go with the public opinion, I don’t believe that there’s not a handful of hoons in blue or yellow rosettes out there.
Won’t be any Liebour hoons going though, they wouldn’t dare risk by-elections with the polls the way they are now…
How many whips will be withdrawn? Will Mistress Whiplash be busy replacing them?
Please, please let my MP Kevan Jones (Labour, Durham North) be involved in this scandal.
Any rumours out there?
[...] MP expenses, part 3 Rather than commentating and linking, I refer you to Guido Fawkes who has a marvellous post over at his blog. Click here [...]
And BTW there is one other reason “it’s in the rules” won’t work.
Not every MP went on a Porktacular greedfilled shopping spree.
If the rules or the sytem were really all to blame why is it that some MP’s were downright frugal and didn’t flip homes or claim the Maximum with some even restricting themselves to a scant couple of hundred quid or less in Total ?
Fact is the rules didn’t force MP’s to behave like Pigs at the trough they did it all by themselves.
Some even THREATENED the Fees office if their outlandish profligate demands weren’t met.
Once we have the full picture then we can sort the real Swine from the (admittedly very few) reasonable and fairly honest MP’s.
I’ve just read that Blears thinks the public are very angry about the ’system’. The stupid woman still doesn’t realise that it is the MPs who played and milked the system that we so hate. Vermin is a word too good for them.
I see Blears has “dressed in leathers” and on her motorbike – perhaps she’s found a job delivering for Salford’s “Dominoes Pizzas” ready for her being sacked on 5th June ?
Dominatrix pizza delivery? No there is an idea. Get her doing something useful!
When the MP ceases to be an MP what happens to any publicly-funded items?
When an MP starts to be an MP what happens to any publically-funded items?
[...] Guido has the details. The Times reports that Baroness Thornton, a Labour minister in the whips’ office, with a £1 million family house near Hampstead Heath claims up to £22,000 a year in expenses by saying that her mother’s modest bungalow in Yorkshire is her main home. [...]
Brown is confirmed as a lying, two-faced scumbag:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6256748.ece
ex-labour party member
Mags Moran on The BBC’s The Politics Show this morning.
Guilty or not? You be the judge and leave a comment: SQUEAL LIKE A PIG, MAGS MORAN ON FILLING HER SNOUT
Think the dry rot started in her brain
Via Ben Brogan’s Blog
Beware little expenses; a small leak will sink a great ship.”
Hat Tip Robert Colvile for finding this in the new Keep Calm and Carry On book of wisdom.
These people have no shame.
That old Labour wanker Sir Stuart Bell-End is now doing the rounds on telly saying that him and his mates in Parliament are going to set up a new audit unit to oversee MPs expenses. Yeah right. Just the other day he was on telly saying that the leaker should be punished and that the police should be called in to deal with the ‘theft’ of the information. Excuse me, Sir Bell-End, you lot are the thieves – it’s our money not yours!
But wait…there’s more. Bell-End says (from Sky website):
“In all probability tomorrow the Commission will approve a special specific audit unit, hived off from the fees office, independent of the fees office which will verify in future every claim that’s made by any Member of Parliament.”
So Bell and his mates are proposing to use the same old clowns wearing different hats. Instead of ‘it was all within the rules’ we’ll now get ‘the auditors cleared it’.
There needs to be a full accounting of what has been claimed already before any of this knee jerk bullshit should proceed. No drawing the line under. No that was then this was no. No excuses whatsoever.
Ministers and MPs should be going to jail for this.
Quite.
Just heard this and find it laughable.
Parliament should be dissolved and all of them should hang their heads in shame. Then we should hang them all in a ceremony of mass public glee
As I said on a previous blog just stay at home come the next election and let the hard of thinking, I mean loyal supporters, vote me back in. These expenses are merely part of my emoluments package to ensure I do not fall behind GP’s, executives in local government and other public sector employees.After we have not had a pay rise. What an ungrateful lot of whingers you all are.
You voted us in so it stands to reason we are more important than you so pay your taxes and shut up.
I am concerned that the worst offenders will get away with it as their outrages will be lost amongst all the minor naughtiness.
For example Hazel Blears must be sacked. But with so many targets will the scatter gun merely graze her rather than the clearly targeted shot between the eyes that is needed.
Monster dies with Blears stuk in its throat
add a c
They need to give the MPs a choice when they are elected:
1. Keep their home in their constituancy and be restriced to travel, overnight subsistance & a limit on hotel room rates
or
2. The tax payer buy their constituancy home (state keeps the money made when sold) and the MP buys a home in London and when in their constituancy be restriced to travel, overnight subsistance & a limit on hotel room rates.
ALL CLAIMS RECEPTED
You know what – there is something we can collectively do about this….and I think we should all, en mass do this.
The 2006 Fraud Act gives us the taxpayers the ability, with legal aid to sue our MP’s. This is provided under Sect 2 and 4. For your benefit here they are in short:
“Fraud by false representation” is defined by Section 2 of the Act as a case where a person makes “any representation as to fact or law … express or implied” which they know to be untrue or misleading
Fraud by abuse of position” is defined by Section 4 of the Act as a case where a person occupies a position where they are expected to safeguard the financial interests of another person, and abuses that position; this includes cases where the abuse consisted of an omission rather than an overt act.
Now wouldn’t it be fun if we all did this to our own MP’s….the scum that they are.
To be honest after all this troughing I think they’ll all need 25k a year protection…..For life.
OK Guido that’s the light relief over.
Let’s have the FULLl HOON Expose before the Grand Prix starts.
Which grand prix ………………..they started years ago
All this MPs expense malarkey is as good as far as it goes.
But why aren’t the Balls, Jowells, Blairs and Mandelsons being hung out to dry?
Stuff Woolas, stuff Blears, it’s the likes of Mr and Mrs Balls we want to see brought down.
The pressure is on Cameron to take action, then the media can pile pressure back on the government & Gordon Brown. There needs to be one of the three party leaders to take the lead on the ‘moral high ground’, and if the Conservatives are serious about having clear water between them an Labour they should be the ones to shame the government and hammer the last nail into the Labour coffin.
We havn’t seen much yet on Conservative expenses – John Gummer’s moles aside. If their front bench is as bad as the Labour one (and George Osborne – for example – is known to have expensive tastes), Cameron has a problem. If it turns out that Cameron himself is not lillywhite, he has a larger problem.
David Cameron
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/david_cameron/witney#expenses
George Osborne
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/george_osborne/tatton#expenses
William Hague
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/william_hague/richmond_%28yorks%29#expenses
Chris Grayling
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/chris_grayling/epsom_and_ewell#expenses
Dominic Grieve QC
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/dominic_grieve/beaconsfield#expenses
Liam Fox
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/liam_fox/woodspring#expenses
Perhaps you may want to search for yourself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Opposition_Shadow_Cabinet_(United_Kingdom)
and
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/liam_fox/woodspring#expenses
It seems that they are all claiming this additional allowance….. I suppose it is whether they are flipping or not etc
Thanks, Papasmurf – it would seem that the Conservative front bench have at least been reasonable. However, the devil lies in the detail, so we’ll wait and see.
Amigo, you are missing Rt Hon Alan Duncan from your list.
Every school student learns in Citizenship classes that where gorvernment is concerned, the bigger the criminality, the more negligent the accident, and the baser the lie, the more likely it is that we are looking at a case of ’systemic error’ for which no single individual will ever be sacked, no pension will be lost.
Expenses are called such because they are expensive, and if the public have been so mean to MPs that they have had to nibble into public funds now and again just to make ends meet, shame on us all! Systemic error is the fault of society itself, so when we blame our hard-working MPs, aren’t we really all blaming ourselves. Shouldn’t we, the public apologise to them etc etc etc.
What vile tripe! But I’m sure we’ll hear more of it over the next week or so.
The Lords needs to be scrutinised as well. There was first Uddin and now Thornton pulling the same stunt, how many others are at the same scam?
Does anybody know if the Lords expenses are to be published?
MEP’s too. There should be a simple rule that everyone who stands for public office, in whatever capacity, should be required to publish their wages and expenses in full, in the national press and in their local constituency, annually.
I have never submitted a single expense in 6 years! Nor have my colleagues.
Speaker Martin: Scum
I wonder who he is trying to impress ?
Dr John Reid is Chairman of Celtic Football Club.
Jim Murphy, Des Browne and a host of other senior MPs , past and present, are regular attenders (complete with families) at this ground.
He’s in good company.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1179932/MPs-Expenses-Uniformed-chauffeurs-football-club-Michael-Martin.html
“Michael Martin spent more than £1,400 on chauffeurs in 2004-05. Trips included visits to Celtic Park, home of Celtic football club.
He used the chauffeuring firm Little’s Chauffeur Drive – whose drivers wear grey suits and caps – 12 times. The cars he chose were standard saloons, either a Jaguar XF, Volvo S80 or a Mercedes E-Class!.
Come on Guido, this post is past it’s best now………let’s have a new one
Tory MP James Gray, who Guido can confirm from previous behaviour is a complete shit
Completely agree
What does it say about respect for the fallen?
The house price boom and era of low interest rates was manifestly in the interests of all the property-empire troughing MPs. They had absolutely no interest in seeing it end.
It is also in their interests to keep house prices high via quantitative easing to boost borrowing demand.
I’m not saying that the cabinet collectively pushed for the above, but there is something of a conflict of interest here.
Many of the MPs committed outright fraud. Regardless of what the green book says, “fraud is the crime or offense of deliberately deceiving another in order to obtain property or services unjustly.”
In the criminal law of common law jurisdictions it may be called “theft by deception,” “larceny by trick,” “larceny by fraud and deception,” or something similar.
If Cameron wants to call an election, get these sorry excuses for MPs into police cells and call elections in their constituencies. With a dwindling number of Labour MPs, we’ll have our general election shortly after a successful motion of no confidence is passed.
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See Gordon ….even Mr Internet knows. There is no escape!!! You are doomed….doomed I tell you!
In the event of widespread public disorder, Brown can use Emergency Powers Legislation.
Elections canceled.
.
He needs to be removed before he does, and the Police and Military need to make it clear that they will not support him.
I hope the Queen when she has her weekly meeting with him on Tuesday tells him, he and his government have lost all authority and as a consequence can no longer govern and it’s time to go.
Its about time she did what the country demands.
Whats the point of her otherwise?
——–BREAKING NEWS ———-BREAKING NEWS———
TOM WATSON TOTALLY VINDICATED
A jubilant Tom Watson today claim he was totally vindicated.
For several years a long running feud has split the Blairites and Brownites in cabinet on the vexed question of “ who ate all the pies ?”
Watson’s expenses prove categorically that he couldn’t have eaten all the pies as he had eaten all the pizzas – he even has his own pizza slicer so he can get down to business quicker than anyone else.
An unnamed cabinet member said “ I’m glad Tom has been able to prove it’s not him. For too long I have suspected Prescott, I note he only ever claims for “food” and won’t share it with the rest of us”.
A sting in the tale however ,was the revelation on the Order Order website ( # 292 ) that Mr Watson may now be known as “ Jabba the Pizza Hut” , members of the public are asked to refrain from using this title.
That News of the World competition is devastating stuff and sums much of this whole affair up and how the public now view MP’s.
Can you actually envision MP’s and the Cabinet in particular campaigning without a squad of Plod “protecting” them now ?
If they try any doorstepping electioneering now they will be lucky to emerge covered in merely rotten fruit, eggs and an earfull of furious abuse.
I seem to remember Prescott hilariously trying to “shame” those MP’s who were questioning Brown’s fitness to lead, by saying they should be on the doorstep Campaigning, only a scant week or so ago.
Think anybody wants you to Campaign on the doorstep for them NOW Johnny Boy ?
Think you will elicit much sympathy even in the poorer areas you laughingly pretend to represent after your mock Tudor and food expenses have been exposed Croquet Boy ?
I hope that left jab of yours is effective against flying used Toilet Seats.
And of course, theirlocal Labour groups are the one’s who do most of their campaigning for them – I think there won’t many such people who will want to go knocking on doors now in fcat their party membership mustbe dwindling fast. Labour is collapsing at the top and disintegrating at the bottom . Come on Lib Dems this is your chance to overtake Labour.
When Prescott isn’t shagging fat bitches in Government time.
Hoon ? Me ?
Dickens described it in London in the 1830’s.
Fagin, the Artful Dodger, Bill Sikes, Nancy, Mr Grimwig, Mr Bumble, Mrs Sowerberry, Toby Crackit, they’re all there in 2009 stalking the corridors of Westminster.
Pickpockets, shoplifters and petty thieves the lot of ‘em. They haven’t the balls to do a real Bernard Maddoff £50 billion fraud. No our cowardly MP’s have to pilfer condoms, Kit-Kats & Bath plugs.
MP = More Profit. I’ll let you guess who Bulls-eye, Bill Sikes dog looks like.
If someone decided to go on a rampage and kill a few MP’s you would all say it was too far, wrong action to take etc. etc.
So we’re stuck like spinless wimps just letting them get away with it.
All I can say is you people need another Oliver Cromwell.
Your spot on there Stacey. we really do. If only we had somebody who could lead us out of this mess!
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Now it becomes clear why Brown was bent on taking the !0% tax rate from the poorest of the population.
Ian Blair is reportedly working on his memoirs (dedicated to the memory of Jean-Charles de Menezes, one hopes). That queer old ponce-arse surely must know where a few bodies are buried and if the whole Nu Labia charabanc is about to hurtle in slow-motion over the edge of a cliff then he might as well do some exhumation – and soon if he wants to cream it in before the caravan moves on. Or maybe his retirement is already cosy enough.
surely time to rename the site guido ?
w3.ordure-ordure.com
just sound it in authentic gorbals mick . . .
Guido,
Savour this delicious irony!
The recusant Gummer is accused of charging for MOLE-catching. If you look back about 20 years, he was also in the mire about having some ponds or something dug on his Debenham (Suffolk) estate with some other teat-sucker’s cash.
As well as the hamburger-crammed Cordelia, the senior Gummer sow littered a small male pig now named BEN GUMMER. This issue now seeks to put his nose in the Ipswich constituency trough (it’s a bit like droit de seigneur in Suffolk still).
Thrillingly the Gummer piglet Ben is to contest the trough with none other than the old Labour boar Chris MOLE!
MOLES against GUMMER, say I.
http://thatsnews.blogspot.com/2009/05/what-press-says-continued.html
MPs and their sleazy expenses. You can’t bat it with a stick. Though you might like to beat them with a bloody stick…
Doh! I meant to say MPs sleazy expenses you can’t beat it with a stick!
http://thatsnews.blogspot.com/2009/05/what-press-says-continued.html
Learning lessons from history
Part 1 – Vlad the Impaler
A Transylvanian approach to MPs expenses may be an important factor in the cure of sleaze.