New York Times Signals End to Tree Slaughter
This morning Guido suggested that, to survive, the Indy should go digital and abandon paper deliveries for iPhone or Kindle digital only versions. Today Amazon announced a digital distribution deal for the large screen Kindle:
The New York Times Company and Washington Post Company are launching pilots with Kindle DX this summer. The New York Times, The Boston Globe, and The Washington Post will offer the Kindle DX at a reduced price to readers who live in areas where home-delivery is not available and who sign up for a long-term subscription to the Kindle edition of the newspapers.
The Dead Tree Press is dying. You read it here first…
Yippee!!
Good to see reality kicking in.
I’d still be happy to spend a quid a day for a good newspaper for the train, however they are mostly cutnpaste jobs these days – so let’s see how news hungry they become again.
Oi, I was #2.
Dunno you know. Their accountants are knobheads. Not all finance is trading Guido man – sometimes you need lads who are qualified – and in this case, err..they were shit.
Why would anyone pay to read lies? The only reason I read the dead tree press is because they are free online and I like to keep up to date with the latest lies and it is so funny how they disseminate the blatantly obvious global agenda, whilst trying to present it as new and something that it is not. It is hillarious how they think that they can report the imposition of all the different tools of the totalitarian toolkit in isolation from each other as if we are too stupid to connect the dots and see clearly what they are doing.
I would never pay to read blatant lies though.
O/T but according to the BBC: “Joanna Lumley has said she trusts Gordon Brown to do the “right thing” for the Gurkhas after meeting with the prime minister to discuss the issue.”
So Joanna Lumley in one statement has reinforced all the negative stereotypes about blondes!
Dim blonde bint!!!!
@52
Mr Ned, in fact I think she has stitched him up like a kipper. How can GB back out now?
Dr Feelgood has it.
Ms Lovely has told the press the PM has personally agreed to help the soldiers by x date.
As soon as the Downing street spincycle tried to retract she did her best Jim Hacker dumping on Humphrey Appelby by repeating “The Prime Minister has personally assured me with his own words that the time table we agreed will be met..”
and hinting that
“..he has given word. He is a decent honest, caring man. He wouldn’t lie to me.
Because if he did, he would be seen as a vile despicable weasel, incapable of keeping his word to me, or you, or the nation. And we would never forgive him for that. Never.”
Clever girl that Purdey
what feelgood sez …….
utterly nailed …interesting that our immigration minister stated that this would not be fully confirmed untill after the elections in july ….
but purdy nailed his personal son of the manse moral reputation to the end of may . Ill bet he just said it to fob her off without expecting the way she handled his reputation to the press on a plate
god …if only our cabinet could be that effective
Yep though JL played a blinder, Gordo has what little credibility he has left on the line now. And she’s gave him a deadline to avoid dthering. He is finished !
Completely agree. She knows how to hit Gordon’s hot buttons. Good on her, I can just imagine him gurning as he announces the way he has supported the Gurkas all along because people “trust him to do the right thing”. That just about covers the limit of his vocabulary. Come to think of it, there are bonobos with a wider vobulary “do nothing party” “it is the right thing to do” “getting on withe job” “ooo ooo where’s my banana”. Well done Joanna.
Not brill really….
They will end up going like the US and Australian major papers and start charging a subscription to view…
You don’t get owt for nowt…
A paper is handy,but online is best – unless you live in the sticks with no internet….
go to labourlist dolly put a statment up no comments yet????
and no toilet paper
Draper’s gone again!!!!!!!!
have they pulled it i only get s blank screen
Going to Montana?
I wish!
When I was there zanuuk seemed as far away as the dark side of the moon.
Wonderful it was.
I see thatApple has banned an iphone application that allows people to read the Sun newspaper. Apparently they don’t like Page 3 girls.
Out of all the things to ban the Sun for, topless babes wouldn’t be at the top of my list.
This is in America, where Janet Jackson’s boob is still news 5 years after it happened (for 8 frames of a video)
No 14 !
First!
Fail!
tragically
He could have been a contender.
Hooray!
Everyone loves Jacqui!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x978t7_kick-jacqui-smith-in-the-Hoon_news
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2009/04/update-on-jacqui-smith-is-Huhne-campaign.html
As long as
Fires need lighting
Chips need wrapping
Cats need litter
Papier needs mache
Ceilings need painting
Cars need masking
Councils need recycling
Kids need muddy boots
Rats need bedding
And flies need swatting
Then the dead tree press is safe
Gordon uses heees mobi to swat flies.
I wonder who pays for Mcmentals moblie phones, It wouldnt be the taxpayer would it?
Wilful desruction of government property is still an offence I believe.
#6 Cat Poo in the garden (other neighbours cats)
Councils definitely need to be recycled
Don’t forget veg needing peeling. That’s what I use my free local rag for.
What the fuck is a youtube Wagon Wheel advert doing on this site? I pause it but as soon as I begin typing it starts up again. For fuck’s sake…
It turns out the scandal about Jacqui Smith’s husband downloading porn was all a misunderstanding.
She told him to watch a scheduled showing of “Tight Scottish C+nts” because she thought Gordon Brown might be in it.
ROFLMAO nice one
Here’s an interesting article about the subject
http://features.csmonitor.com/connectingthedots/2009/05/04/as-newspapers-struggle-readers-seem-fine-with-online/
Dear Jacqui. Fuck off.
http://devilskitchen.me.uk/2009/04/jacqui-smith-still-thieving-whore.html
Is there a way of transmitting this information to McBroon or to Karen Lumley PPC who is standing against her in the General Election (Karen has a presence on Face Book and possibly a web site !
Karen Lumley is fully aware of the failings of Ms Smith – she has stood against her for the last two elections and knows just how disingenuous and dissembling Smith is. Hopefully Karen will triumph next year.
Dolly Draper leaving Labourlist tomorrow.
We had a right laugh on here about that tool, chalk up another head on the pole Guido.
http://www.labourhome.org/story/2009/5/6/16244/14972
Ps Kate is Dolly in. Anton
Getting back on topic to digital media, the ghost of Draper has not left. Downing Street has deliberately blacked up and shrunken the head of John Atta Mills, the President of Ghana. You can even see the photoshop fail in the Downing Street picture.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/downingstreet/3507223597/
http://blogs.bet.com/news/newsyoushouldknow/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/johnattamills.jpg
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Hey that’s good, wish I knew how to write upside down- if Gordon knew how to do it he would really believe he was into the digital age – perhaps you should offer your services as an advisor to no 10? six figure salary, multiple perks – beer, football, and curry night all on expenses.
LOL, and I thought I could do HTML..
Crikey Guido,you are on a hot streek.
Now steady on, we don’t want him taking his clothes off just yet.
Digital is one of the ways forward. Not if you are Ian Hislop, but, let’s leave him to one side!
Incidentally Why my wife is annoyed by Derek Draper
And she is right to be annoyed by him.
No mental health professional I know of would act in this way.
Has she not heard of Radovan Karadzic?
Yes, but she referred to those she knew.
What the fuck are all yo SonyKindle twats talking about. I like a good paper book, I like a good book on Sony’s reader, or Kindles reader. I’ll even read a book I have found on a bus, for fuck’s sake.
Honestly, I cant’t read, I got a friend to say what I meant…
I am an arsehole. Excuse me.
Oooh! What’s your number?
I’mfree!
I have scurvy and rickets which I attribute down to my hygiene routine down at my flat. This MUST qualify me to be the next NULAB health minister.
Ps I’m an expert at fiddling expenses and promise never to get caught.
Ah would that be anywhere near Uddin’s Maidstone pad, also filled with ticks and rats but no people we’re told.
By the way when can we expect that thieving council flat scammer to be arrested? Move along Mr PC Plod she and her tribe a cut and dried case, clear up rate of 100%, ticks all your performance boxes, go for it.
Yes when are the Police going to investigate? – I suspect they are waiting to be given the go ahead by the home secretary. When is that going to happen?
electronic books are shite.
No they aren’t! I keep a small library on my laptop – it beats putting pressure on the upper floor of my house where I live and have a tiny tiny study. If you love books and live in a small space, digital is the way to go. Wherever I go, hotel, train, abroad, I can take my laptop with me, so always have the books I like.
Reading a real book is an experience, a sensation. The actual feel of a book will never be beaten by these Ebook things.
For instance, I can find the last page I was on in a book, say yesterday, by just opening the page that I stuck a postit note on. Or if you are that way inclined, dog ear it. On an Ebook reader, you may have to press several buttons in sequence. I think my way is quicker.
Also, I can write little notes on the margins, with what I might have been thinking at the time
Also, I have a whole wall in my living room with just books. Looks good.
Why do you keep a small library on your laptop? A laptop, even an old one, is capable of keeping a quite big library.
Get something like Sony Reader, with an SD card you can keep a massive library in your pocket. Or don’t you really like books that much…
I don’t know.
[...] are a number of stories on line about the Death of the Newspaper [...]
Bog off bot
Don’t be ridiculous.
Guido is clearly the only person to proclaim that some Newspapers will crash and burn under pressure of falling Ad Revenues and a crippling Recession.
This quite obviously means that we shall all be getting our News from Blogs in a couple of years time. Those who proclaim blogs as mostly hilarious vanity and opinions in a web based form are missing the point. They BREAK stories. Occasionally. Once in a while.
Blogs simply don’t need Newspapers and rarely if ever have to turn to such an old fashioned media source to regurgitate and mouth off about stories already seen on their paper (yes paper!!!) pages.
And it’s not like a Blog ever linked to a Newspaper now is it ?
The rise of Blogs as the predominant source of quality reporting is now unstoppable.
ARSEHOLE
Anon, some newspapers have already gone during this recession. You don’t keep up with the news, do you?
Quite right That’s News. I am woefully behind the times and to prove it here’s a 3 year old Economist article about the death of Newspapers.
http://www.economist.com/opinion/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=7830218
Of course if you put in death of Newspapers into Google you get some 38 Million hits. Which proves that I am not only behind the times but also sadly redundant.
I must say that’s not a very though conundrum Kenny Kindle.
Putting the question in your title “Keeny Kindle, Inventor & well, have a guess…….”
and then spoiling it by answering said query in your elucidating post “ARSEHOLE”
But an amusing game nontheless.
Well spotted Anonymous. (and I’m thinking I may be bit of a one for that…)
I have just drunk, or is it drank, a whole bottle of Courvousier (I think) – but I couldn’t give two fucks: how’s that for constraint and keyboard skills!
Mr Brown may feel replacing Chancellor Alistair Darling would destabilise the Government further.
How does that relate to my extremely precise statement of me being pissed?
Must have had TWO bottles of brandy
Kindle is crap, Bezos is a megalomaniac, it’ll end in tears.
http://www.teleread.org/
No it won’t. Don’t be silly, it’ll be OK!
Then we will all be able to read any shit, any time. Now doesn’t that sound good?
Not so sure that the death of the dead tree press is a good thing.
The US can switch off the internet in an instant (internet 2). Without some form of press, we’re doomed use snail mail – and that’s going down the plughole.
Ah well, there’s always free speech. Erm, nope, that’s going.
Is telepathy still OK?
It is true that the USA can totally kill the Internet, within 24 hours (not in an instant).
But then, who gives a fuck?
I don’t depend on the web for fuck all, I like it just for fun.
I can always find other types of fun…
What about information sharing by bloggers? If Guido had not coaxed the MSM into publishing the truth about the government/media cosiness, McPoison would still be dispensing his toxins and McMental wouldn’t've had such a lousy week.
Could you live with that?
Either way, the truth will out.
Guido either has more and is saying nothing, and they will screw themselves through the natural method, or he waits for the right time. As I said, the net is a source of fun.
I can wait.
Oh, OK. That’ll be worth waiting for.
Perhaps the newspapaers should be nationalised if they’re unprofitable?
Completely Shite Reply
“The US can switch off the internet in an instant.” – no it can’t. where’d u get that shite from? conspiracy.org? Sheeez
All of the Web servers are situated in the U.S.A.
Apert from China, who are currently setting up their own Internet.
Where did you think they were?
Last week I walked around room after room filed with servers in a place called Telehouse in London.
It’s right next to the London INternet eXchange.
So please stop spouting crap.
What utter bollocks.
The only thing of real importance in the USA when it comes to the internet is the primary DNS servers. Then you get the webservers for a lot of the big websites. But the internet is not just the USA.
Assume the US turned off “the internet” what would happen?
Well a lot of the new servers might suddenly drop half their traffic, but it wouldn’t stop them working. The IRC channels would suddenly lose the US based chatters but they’d carry on working. You’d lose the big American based sites, but the majority of .co.uk addresses would still work.
I’d be shafted for about day as I’d have to get all my DNS pointing redirected using a UK based dynamic DNS router. Would probably have to pay over the odds for .co.uk addresses from a UK based domain seller to replace the current US bought ones.
But in no way would the internet be “turned off”
Alien8 -
If the US decided to switch the net off, they could.
All that’s left is, as you say, would work with a bit of effort.
The effort would be pointless, you would have connectivity of sorts, but the “www” wouldn’t be the same, especially for things like secure transactions.
As mentioned before, China is desperate to get it’s own WWW, and they find it hard.
Actually the US has “turned off” the net a few times in the past. I remember a few times when the Atlantic link has been broken but to be honest I hardly noticed it was down. As for financial transactions I doubt anyone in the UK would notice the difference unless they use paypal. Pretty sure the online transaction servers we use at work are UK based.
Remember, the internet was originally designed with WW3 in mind. Take the US out of the equation and you’d probably find it works a lot better
Alien8 -
Makes sense. If we could take the US out of it though, and with China probably going on their own, what would we call it then? Not the “net”, or the “www” – they wouldn’t apply any more…..
My reply awaits moderation! Blimey Guido. It’s so innocuous!
A repost, since my first attempt was moderated! This one omits the enlightened one’s name. Perhaps that’s the cause.
See the Cybersecurity Act of 2009: http://cdt.org/security/CYBERSEC4.pdf which gives too much power to the executive.
The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 (PDF) gives the president the ability to “declare a cybersecurity emergency” and shut down or limit Internet traffic in any “critical” information network “in the interest of national security.” The bill does not define a critical information network or a cybersecurity emergency. That definition would be left to the president.
The bill does not only add to the power of the president. It also grants the Secretary of Commerce “access to all relevant data concerning [critical] networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule, or policy restricting such access.” This means he or she can monitor or access any data on private or public networks without regard to privacy laws.
Mother Jones is worth a read: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/04/should-obama-control-internet
The Net is designed to be distributed so the absence of the US wouldn’t kill it. However it would slow it down considerably, at least in the near term, as performance right after 9/11 showed (huge complex in base of one of the towers got destroyed).
The latest advert gets zero.
Don’t know what their trying to sell, too disgusting to watch.
Which advert?
They’re trying to sell gluttony.
Drogba should be sacked and sent home
Has Drogba met McSnot recently? Or was McSnot there?
This is a crap bit of news lets talk about Chelsea
that fat norwegian ref needs sorting out. the hoon ignored 3 clearcut chelsea pens.
Drogba’s fault, he should concentrate on football instead of diving.
That’s IT!
I’m bloody well cancelling my family holiday to Oslo.
So there.
Huge cheer went up in the packed pub here in Kirkcaldy when Barca scored. As a Scot I am thrilled Barca won. I guess El Gordo must have wished Chelsea all the best.
I went o Kirkcaldy ONCE.
As an Englishman I had no interest in either of the two foregn teams playing each other tonight.
Muchas Gracias. Venga Barsa!!
Racist fucker
Pleonasm alert!
No need to say the pub was “packed”, since it’s in Jockland.
I believe they can still smoke up there, they just keep it quiet.
NAZI
Fuck off twat
Ok that was a bit mean. Sorry. I am not anti-English its just that we get so much EPL rammed down our throats up here to the detriment of our own football you can maybe understand why the pub cheered. By the way I thought you had three stone wall penalties turned down.
Shame
Yawn.
I’m going now, you Fawkers!
Fuck off, then!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/06/john-kerry-newspapers-end_n_197869.html
“Hours before a Senate hearing on struggling newspapers, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., said steps must be taken so the news media can stay diverse and independent.
“As a means of conveying news in a timely way, paper and ink have become obsolete, eclipsed by the power, efficiency and technological elegance of the Internet,” Kerry said in prepared remarks. “But just looking at the erosion of newspapers is not the full picture; it’s just one casualty of a completely shifting and churning information landscape.”
Kerry, chairman of the Commerce Subcommittee on Communications, Technology and the Internet, said newspapers resemble an endangered species.
“
What? Tell me all about it….
The American Left want their own version of Britains Pravda.
And they’ll want taxpayers to be forced to pay for lefty shite.
They already have PBS which relies mainly on donations but I believe also gets some government subsidy.
Did you know John Kerry was in Vietnam ?
Submit it here:
http://failblog.org/
Yawn
The Dead Tree Press is dying. You read it here first…
No, Guido.
Actually, I read it first on Matt Drudge’s site.
Sorry.
He He
lol.
Can you wipe your arse on a Kindle?
Years ago one never cut up the express it was too slipper, the local paper was much rougher, more effective.
If you’ve got a well used arse, then sure…
Got the ink stains to prove it
Nice answer…ink stains to prove it!! how the fuck do you get smileys on this blog; fucked if I can do it.
If you get the angle right, it’s called Kindles Surprise.
You miserable Huhne.
That wasn’t me
It looks like you.
I’ll go outside and have a look.
No not me
Tell your dad if I find you kicking a ball round here in future, I’ll have your guts for garters.
OT – Good commentary by Will Self on the current crop of useless f*cks running the country
“if you think Brown is something of a pygmy after him comes a positive deluge of Munchkins”
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/47394,opinion,hazel-blears-and-the-political-pygmies-fighting-for-gordon-browns-job-by-will-self
Yawn again
Will Self is just another human who thinks he is intelligent, and has managed to convince the media, who are only after profit, that the plebs (us), will fall for it all.
Guess what – by the size of his bank account, we did.
If my name was Self, I’d immediately change it to, oh, I don’t know – something meaningful and less narcissistic. Did I spell that right? Couldn’t give a fuc!
A very interesting topic, and much better than your childish attempts to ridicule the PM about his alleged mental disabilities, and eyesight problems.
It will be a shame if newspapers disappear. Once they are gone, we will regret it. It’s nice to sit in a cafe in France or somewhere with a cup of coffee or another sort of drink, reading the paper. Does staring at a computer screen for hours a day damage the eyesight? I think so.
Virgo, we do that stuff all the time. Best you fuck off.
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Is this where I place my Tesco order?
Are you in uniform ?
No, this is Pizza’s Oivey.
Dead tree press has been responsible for all the nonsensical babble over ‘flu’ and ‘binge drinking’ both ridiculous stories…. Newspapers used to be good. I didnt buy one for weeks…
Downing St website today says that PM at PMQ’s answered questions in respect of ‘Northern Ireland , Child Traffickers and the Gurkhas.’ No 10′s views about PMQ’s were parrotted on BBC & ITV tonight . This wasn’t the PMQ’s I watched. No mention here of questions asked about bullying in the workplace or calls for a General Election or of Nick Cleggs rather brilliant attack about vacuous speeches . Joanna Lumley I hope you are taking note; ‘Gordon , his syncophants and his website will tell you what you want to hear but they won’t deliver.
Nell its footy night; recycle somewhere else
Sorry I know that but we aren’t all into footy. More a supporter of the ‘fragrant’ Lumley. (Perhaps Chelsea will win – Is that the result you want? – if it is I’ll cheer for you)
I, for once, have to side with Nell. Football is shite, hyped up, boring shite.
Also, I am fucking annoyed with this fucking youtube pish appearing on my screen – I fucking HATE youtube, thisube, thattube, anyfuckingtube.
That’s not technology progressing; it’s just a pack of wolves that make money every time you click on it.
The more you view it, the less you see…
I don’t know, I kinda like 22 millionaires chasing the next endorsement round a field.
53,330
you are repeating yourself
a watched petition never boils.
He’s fucked anyway which way you look, so ther’s no point anymore…
This just sounds like one of those ad-place sponsored article thingummyjigs. Maybe it is. Fair enough. Guido can post whatever he wants on Guido’s blog, as some utter twat reminded me today.
The dead tree press is dying, sure. It’s been dying since the the radio was invented. But it’s gonna take a lot more years for it actually to die. So I won’t bother with the popcorn for this one.
Read all about it in tomorrows…..
Wait a minute – I know you are all watching football, boring, boring game, (try cricket, much more complex, english and elegant even though we didn’t do very well against the West Indies today) but would Jacqui Smith, Baroness Uddin, the 3 troughing lords selling access, the inadequate gordon brown making a fool of himself etc etc , all have been effectively exposed but for the digital blogs and spin offs – I don’t think so.
Thats not you Nell.
Of course it’s me – I don’t go to bed until about 11.30 and football bores me to tears – it is such a mindless game!! – cricket is far superior . gordon with his limited intelligence would never understand it but I hope you might. Baroness U might, given that the B’s and P’s play it too, though I have some views on their cricket manners that I couldn’t publish here. Whatever, I wouldn’t want to include her in my circle – house of lords or not.
yawn
Cricket for me. It’s not much fun trying to watch it in a newspaper, though.
You are right about the (current) limitations of the blogs, too. Monopoly of the MSM and all that.
Hate to admit it, though, coz it makes me sound like I agree with that utter, smug scumbag lickspittle, Ian Hislop. The git.
I dont’ think we read it here first old chum. I was predicting this kinda stuff more than a decade ago.
Thing is Guido, the press know this. That’s why – one of the reasons at least – they support the war on t’internet; coming to a stream of packets near you, real soon. But… it’s hard to see that with the current dullards in charge they can turn it about.
They *can* do. There are ways. Jeff Jarvis, bright chap, he has a few ideas.
Frank, Frank, Frank.
‘Arry ‘Arry ‘Arry
oivay, oivay, oivay.
Theres a big spat between Google and the traditional newspapers on this at the moment. Buts it ok, because Google do no evil.
Yawn, Yawn and fuckin Yawn.
were you born with that name?
fucking spelt my own name wrong!
143 thats the funniest today
Tomorrows Papers……Harman is going to put women in charge of Banks !!!!
That will increase tomorrow’s circulation
You misspelt banks.
how so?
Oh! sorry, I was a bit slow there!!
Ithink I’ll have one now. I’m fed up counting my money…
You’ll be dead before you finish
First announcement will be a new commission selected from well known women in order to set up a new Quango with the aim of maintaining the Banks of the Thames. This will then be expanded to include the Banks of all the other rivers in Britain as and when they work out how to issue an ID Card to a river.
Who the fuck wants to carry an electronic bit of kit with them everywhere ?
Especially where there are muggers around ? What the fuck is wrong with carrying the one book you are reading and a paper around ?
These techno-dweebs assume that just because something is a gadget it must automatically be better.
And Guido does talk a complete wank-fest about the ‘dead tree press’ – guess where he took his ‘dodgy emails’ to because he was too much of a fucking weakling to publish them himself.
For all his ‘fighting talk’, he is just a small-penis wanker when the boys get a bit too tough for him. Like when they tell him to fuck off for trying to scam them with a £ 20, 000 sting for letting them take the heat of the libel umbrella !
Draper, you still here.
Oh dear poor didums somebody upset you cherub,never mind here’s you comfy blanket go and sit down and wipe the tears from your eyes.
The Sony Reader 700 is an amazing piece of technology. So FUCK OFF!
As someone said earlier, from comedian Frankie Boyle:
“The new ID cards, they wont stop your identity being stolen. It just means that when you do, your fucked. Oh i’ve left my wallet at the hotel, im going to need new eyeballs and a finger transplant.”
Says so much about the govt and the scheme…
Guido did publish the McBride stuff, didn’t he ????
He surely wouldn’t be so proud of that episode or constantly sneering at Newspapers if he hadn’t and it was the Newpapers that had to break the story so your facts must be grossly in error.
Like the £20,000 figure. You must be making that up and just throwing out random numbers or that would definitely have been reported elsewhere.
But why even bother with all this “facty” stuff when I can just call you a Hoon and win the argument ? You’re a Hoon!!! A Hoony hoony Hoooooooon!!
There. Job done.
The 20k figure was reported in the Labourgraph as part of a hatchet job against Guido. The same article was full of so much pro Labour shit it positively reeked. And in the same article it went on to say that McBride’s smears were well known to the press (inferring they were true) while failing to point out that the reason the press hadn’t published any of them was because they were also known to be completely made up. Who would you rather believe? A pro Labour mouthpiece who’s willing to repeat lies and spin as “fact” or every other newspaper who knew about Guido’s story on McBride and not one of which turned round to say “actually we paid 20k for that story” when Guido told everyone what a lying sack of shit the Labourgraph reporter was?
Don’t mean to rain on your parade Alien8n old man, but that’s not even what Guido himself said happened.
By all means trash the Telegraph but when I read a story penned by Guido in the Spectator I’m inclined to give give it some credence at least.
Guido confirms that “A figure of £20,000 is discussed” betwixt him and the Telegraphs Chris Hope as well as outlining all the Non Disclosure agreements and subsequent back and forth with the Sunday Times and News of the World.
Guido said the 20K was lost due to some Legalese his wife told him to get advice on.
Just thought Guido would be happier to have the story told as he’s already writ, so to speak.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-magazine/features/3540431/a-bloggers-notebook.thtml
What a joke. 5 bellies banning Michael Savage. Did anyone else see that piece of Liebour scum on Newsnight? Even Paxman was shaking his head at the old tosser. Oh and the prat couldn’t work out how to turn his fucking phone off.
perhaps he should get a lesson off McSnot?
So, he wasn’t actually in a temper when he threw the Nokias? That’s how he turns his phone off! It all makes sense now.
Derek quits Labour List
http://www.politicana.co.uk/2009/05/message-from-derek-draper.html
Sorry to see him go. He’s been a real asset
You are giving all anonymous,s a bad name; STOP recycling.
Quote from resignation email (lol):
“What has become clear, though, is that my continued editorship can only detract from what LabourList needs to do now. That is why, after a couple of weeks of reflection, I am passing on the editorship to Alex Smith, who has been a very able Deputy to me from the beginning. I have no doubt that Alex will steer the site to bigger and better things and I urge everyone who wants Labour to have a vibrant, active space on the internet to give him your backing and get involved in whatever comes next.”
‘Couple of weeks of reflection’? Translation: ‘now Mandy’s confirmed that I’m sacked’.
And ‘Whatever comes next’? For Labour, does he mean? That would be “Opposition”, Derek – thanks to you.
No, I mean it: many many thanks to you for that one mate.
So, bye Dolly. Hope they let you have some visitors…
Thanks for that. I refuse to dignify their liars website with a ‘hit’ rich though I’m sure it is with comedy gold.
P45 for Mr Draper then? Shame.
Means he gets first dibs on selling the Big Issue before the great P45-fest of June 2010.
I hope that Broon wishes Man U good luck on the eve of the Champions’ League final.
A R eh their LA
Just as I am thinking of going to bed you are all coming alive – it’s as though the footie game , in its duration; tranquillized you. Come on. football is BORING – give it up . Try sailing, badminton, blogging, harassing gordon brown, weedling out the expenses of mp’s/lord,s, finding mcbride or draper, supporting lumley/gurkhas, fighting charles whatsisname. cricket is fun – even though we don;t often win. Supporting Joanna Lumley and bringing Baroness Uddin to justice are the most important .
Name your planet
Who is McBride and Draper.
Suggest you go and read a comic or get a video out as you appear to have lost your way on the t’internet and found this site.
Undertakers to the queen.
Until recently, Labourites. Now Independent left wingers out on their arses due to smearing, of the worse kind. And getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar, metaphorically speaking. And are vewwy vewwy sowwy. Please forgive them.
http://www.labourlist.org/statement_from_derek_draper_labour
Then again, Nah. Don’t.
A comedy double act
Nell I hate footy but what else can we say about this crowd,you have to rest your weary eyes and mind sometime otherwise then men in whit coats might come and take us away instead Browntop.
Come on you Reds
I’d like to support Joanna, one way or another…
Oh come on, women play footie too. Get involved, love.
Good luck whoever’s playing tonight.
Time for bed. Good Night God bless . Just one thought – Gordon/Baroness U / EdB/ TomW/ Much loved people,????going to be most voted for in 2009/2010.????
Guido what are we gonna do when he missus has forgotten to get the bog roll in ? The dead tree press still have some uses surely ?
Sink or shower.
Not the Express
Stop shitting. It warms the planet you fool, all the methane. Pleb.
You know, a fair few people have had a little pop at my name here but try watching Bruin on telly, or especially the YouTube vid again without thinking of it
Good try Guido.
I think your name is especially romatic.
Gordon is a twat
Surely a vibrating pager controlled by Mandelson ?
(of which he has many made specifically for that very intraorificular purpose)
Where did you come from ?
Good stuff on here in last couple of days.
http://www.spiked-online.com
Whether you agree with the writers or not Spiked is a nice example of how an online newspaper/magazine can work properly.
When is this fucker Brown going to just give up. What a bastard arsehole.
Our lives are now officially completley fucked. Bastard. C.unt. Ratlike featured alien grinning twat.
Your lapsing.
eh?
He won’t.
Because he is as you describe.
I met him once.
He rolled his eye at me.
I rolled it back.
Can’t say I agree with your analysis on this one, Guido. People would have said much the same thing about newspapers when television came about – but newspapers survived that. Why couldn’t they survive in the internet age?
Personally, I absolutely loathe reading large articles from my laptop. Some things I much prefer to have on a piece of paper instead.
I really loathe agreeing with death, but you are correct this time.
It may be an economic decision in the end. I remember a brief phase when mainstream newspapers were free but then has to start charging 20p, then 50 etc as the ad revenue did not cover costs. Look forward to disk shaped snacks paying for the new media, at least for now.
Nope, sorry, not even close. It won’t help the dead tree press one little bit to go digital. Most of them have a digital presence already, and has it helped? They’re still going bankrupt one by one.
The sad fact is that you can’t beat an individual with a real interest in what he is posting. You can hire all the “professionally trained journalists” you want – and of course you can’t, because the dead tree press no longer has the cash to do that – but you still can’t beat the blogger.
The dead-tree press will never be able to beat the real-life scientist, real-life economist, real-life financial analyst, real-life military analyst. A professional working journalist may draw a salary, but he will never have the passion that inspires any of these real-life professionals to deliver information. Blogger’s aren’t selling you information; they’re the kind of people who *want* you to have it.
The dead-tree press will linger on as long as readers confuse information with opinion and as long as readers preferred being stirred up emotionally to be informed, but once the mass of readers figure out that they can read economics without the party political bias, or science without the human interest drivel, then it’s game over for the mainstream press. Their last story will be about whatever happened to the mainstream press – and that story is showing up already.
I didn’t say this first, but eventually the mainstream press will be reduced to reporting crime, sex scandals and astrology, and blogs will take everything else.
sorry to be off topic, but Dolly Draper has come out and has announced his resignation. Like I’ve said in my blog, it is all about trying to save Brown, but his dithering in not getting rid of the creep has just made Brown look weak and like a rabbit caught in the headlights.
I’m sure we all weep for the loss of Dolly…or not
Mmm. Read that too.
Gone back to his profession.
What was that exactly?
FFS get recent.
How can irony be recent ?
Great. Glad the moron’s gone. And I’m a Labour supporter. Or was, I should say.
“I am passing on the editorship to Alex Smith,…” Bit like Murdoch appoints his editors I suppose.
The Arsehole for a mouth Phil Woolas described Manchester as the most fantastic city in the universe, now you know how delusional these tossers are, but you have to remember he is from SHuhnehorpe but he supports Man U, typical Labour twat he likes to jump on the bandwagon to try and fool the local idiots, because he is the member for Oldham east and Saddleworth, but the sad lying twat has obviously never been to Manchester, what a fucking dump,with ugly pigs for females, and medallion wearing males, the only city center that was improved by a bomb.
You Bury people are all the same.
Where the heck is SHoonhorpe?
S.c.u.n.thorpe
Just as we thought. New Labour’s integration plan not working.
Cockney Wanker living up to what us Northern bumpkins would call him anyway.
i shall retire to my organic farm and black labrador called cicero , kindle is something you light the aga with ! world is becoming more unreal , i just hope no one plays with there kindle at the cinema , i might confuse it for the interlude ice cream lady , two tubs of vanilla please !!
its no good me saying it wont catch on , i thought facebook would become a peadophiles collective , twitter a canniabis users conversation aid and you tube a pay per view private lap dance viewing portal .
now if some one can develope a typing programm that has a series of responses and blogg for me, then nothing left for me to do . that would be good an uber blogging program , just a series of automated 20-200 word remarks zooming across the globe , dead tree press exchanged at high prices at christies for collectors !!.
i wonder if they cryogenically freeze gordon , thaw him out in 3009 for the amusement of the borg robots that now run the world called the “nu labour communist obama democrats” perhaps history will record how harriet harmen started the equaility wars in 2010 and legislated for the final solution of asexual robots to sit in parliment , which in 2015 was turned into a boutique coffe shop with britains biggest helter skelter in big ben and a suspended roller coaster called “the other place” , and gift shop called “august pugins”
where you can buy small robot doll mps with built in human flaws .
i wonder where gordons britain will take us , its no such that harriets extremeism bothers me or the loss of the Blair narrative , it will be the pain of hoping for 0.5% growth figure so that you can retire before you are 70 , being asked for my Id card for medical treatment or given the choice to upgrade to virgin fast for an extra 3k . teachers will be become technology tutors and you will have a micro tv implanted in your eye for permanent updates to tell you where you should go next for some fun to match your endorphin profile , perhaps you get a big electric shock if you google liberal or conservatism and scotland will win the world cup for ever .
chelsea was robbed tonight !! so is our democracy , browns britain sounds like romano zombie flick “night of the living debt” be afraid be very afraid
Your pissed
O/T, but…
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I will nip over and check it out. Might be a good idea.
Not sure I share Guido’s delight at the destruction of mainstream mass media. While I am often irritated by newspapers and the trivial and often crass misrepresentations of events – I’d rather they acted more responsibly, rather than disapeared.
Any chance of packing in using the phrase tree slaughter? It makes you sound like an earnest gap year wanker.
According to the Guardian:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/may/07/rupert-murdoch-charging-websites
“Rupert Murdoch expects to start charging for access to News Corporation’s newspaper websites within a year as he strives to fix a ”malfunctioning” business model.
Encouraged by booming online subscription revenues at the Wall Street Journal, the billionaire media mogul last night said that papers were going through an “epochal” debate over whether to charge. “That it is possible to charge for content on the web is obvious from the Wall Street Journal’s experience,” he said.
Asked whether he envisaged fees at his British papers such as the Times, the Sunday Times, the Sun and the News of the World, he replied: “We’re absolutely looking at that.” Taking questions on a conference call with reporters and analysts, he said that moves could begin “within the next 12 months‚” adding: “The current days of the internet will soon be over.”"
I pay for access to the FT and subscribe to the Economist – but these (like the WSJ) are specialist/premium titles and not pursuing the mass market.
Clearly the MSM need to make money somehow, but not sure basic subscriptions provide a sustainable business model either.
Be careful what you wish for, Rupert. Charging for something is the quickest way to find out what it’s worth. Are free online newspapers visited because they are free or because they are super Galactic-quality journalism?
If Rupert charges for his stuff, he’ll certainly establish a dedicated “worth the money” readership, but if that turns out to be a few hundred people, what will he tell his advertisers?
As Dr feelgood says, some specialist journals can pull this off, but it’s not clear the Daily Comics can.
Bias is bias, lies are lies..If you start from the premise that you will show allegiance to a particular political party over truth then your audience will continue to turn elsewhere for the truth. You can put your master’s words, in the case of the Sun and Times (Rupert Murdoch), on paper and on-line but, if it doesn’t read like the truth and you flaunt your open support of a political party in the publics’ face then they will stop reading your lies.
As newspaper barons go Rupert is not the worst at least he is up front; we support New Labour (or did until they wrecked the Country), what to make of the Telegraph who pretend to be one thing and then as subtly as a brick through a window have been supporting New Labour all along. What peaks they have climbed in search of truth; well if you say so Mr McBride we will print it, you are sure this will get us first on the list for your next smear (sorry scoop).
The moral is, if you wish anything resembling the truth visit as many Blogs as you can.
What do we call the partner of a GAY LORD “QUEEN?
U R SHIT
“You read it here first”?
This has been going for 10 years+ if anything you’re late to the conversation. So late that I’m surprised, you’re usually far more on-the-ball.
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