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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/05/05/the-last-honourable-labour-pm/#comment-70134</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 12:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever you thought of Margaret Thatcher&#039;s policies, she was honourable: what you saw and heard was what you got. She was also incorruptibe, didn&#039;t line her own pockets, and was faithful to her spouse.

Her son&#039;s behaviour left something to be desired, but that seemed more of an embarrassment to her than something she encouraged. Labour politicians on the other hand seem particularly prone to the dynastic urge - parliament is currently full of people who would not have got where they are without family connections. Yet they claim to abhor the hereditary principle! Stinking hypocrites</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever you thought of Margaret Thatcher&#8217;s policies, she was honourable: what you saw and heard was what you got. She was also incorruptibe, didn&#8217;t line her own pockets, and was faithful to her spouse.</p>
<p>Her son&#8217;s behaviour left something to be desired, but that seemed more of an embarrassment to her than something she encouraged. Labour politicians on the other hand seem particularly prone to the dynastic urge &#8211; parliament is currently full of people who would not have got where they are without family connections. Yet they claim to abhor the hereditary principle! Stinking hypocrites</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/05/05/the-last-honourable-labour-pm/#comment-70122</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 12:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See her Wiki entry for a rundown of her utter hypocrisy when in power - the usual Labour stuff: one type of school is good enough for you lot - but I went to private school and so will my kids!

Champagne socialists are the bitter end, imo, and the Callaghan/Jay dynasty typifies them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See her Wiki entry for a rundown of her utter hypocrisy when in power &#8211; the usual Labour stuff: one type of school is good enough for you lot &#8211; but I went to private school and so will my kids!</p>
<p>Champagne socialists are the bitter end, imo, and the Callaghan/Jay dynasty typifies them</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 12:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As henry James remarked, &quot;manners are small morals&quot;
Bad manners are the sure sign of a disregard for others.

(I understand btw that Cherie was lathed by the staff at Chequers - unlike Maggie and Norma)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As henry James remarked, &#8220;manners are small morals&#8221;<br />
Bad manners are the sure sign of a disregard for others.</p>
<p>(I understand btw that Cherie was lathed by the staff at Chequers &#8211; unlike Maggie and Norma)</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/05/05/the-last-honourable-labour-pm/#comment-69985</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 10:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are still good things to read int he Telegraph, inc Heffer, love him or loathe him
He&#039;s spot on today: http://tinyurl.com/dbk7tv

&quot;... It is the absurdity of tribalism that all but a few brave souls of integrity – the Frank Fields and the Charles Clarkes – feel the need to keep saying how wonderful a tribal leader is when it is palpably clear to everybody else that he has had it. It is time these people stopped worrying about their silly little party and started to worry about what they are allowing it to do to our country. &quot;

Pritchard, Randall, Daley and esp Booker are still worth reading, always, among a few others.
The &#039;resident Labout insider&#039; - currently Riddell - is NEVER worth reading, all they do is spout proaganda. It&#039;s shaming for a broadsheet to pay such people - they are not reporters</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are still good things to read int he Telegraph, inc Heffer, love him or loathe him<br />
He&#8217;s spot on today: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/dbk7tv" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/dbk7tv</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; It is the absurdity of tribalism that all but a few brave souls of integrity – the Frank Fields and the Charles Clarkes – feel the need to keep saying how wonderful a tribal leader is when it is palpably clear to everybody else that he has had it. It is time these people stopped worrying about their silly little party and started to worry about what they are allowing it to do to our country. &#8221;</p>
<p>Pritchard, Randall, Daley and esp Booker are still worth reading, always, among a few others.<br />
The &#8216;resident Labout insider&#8217; &#8211; currently Riddell &#8211; is NEVER worth reading, all they do is spout proaganda. It&#8217;s shaming for a broadsheet to pay such people &#8211; they are not reporters</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Myers</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/05/05/the-last-honourable-labour-pm/#comment-69924</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 09:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any hope for our country at all now?  Is there a person or persons in our country that has both integrity and intelligence enough to bring in the change necessary to both reduce the size of the non-productive organisation our economy supports, whilst improving the performance of the remainder?

I am saddened each day to witness the greed, short-sightedness and utter lack of integrity those who put themselves in positions of leadership display - yet I cannot see a worthy alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any hope for our country at all now?  Is there a person or persons in our country that has both integrity and intelligence enough to bring in the change necessary to both reduce the size of the non-productive organisation our economy supports, whilst improving the performance of the remainder?</p>
<p>I am saddened each day to witness the greed, short-sightedness and utter lack of integrity those who put themselves in positions of leadership display &#8211; yet I cannot see a worthy alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Harpic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harpic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 06:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don`t be such a possessive troll: a powerful cleaner can clean round two bends.
I wouldn`t know about common tagging more your bag than mine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don`t be such a possessive troll: a powerful cleaner can clean round two bends.<br />
I wouldn`t know about common tagging more your bag than mine</p>
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		<title>By: What Gordon did next</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Gordon did next</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 03:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6229529.ece</description>
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		<title>By: What Gordon did next</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Gordon did next</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 03:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must see this, the hoon does it again:

Photographed like a snearing loon against a backdrop of a Swastika

Peering above a poster carefully cropped by the photographer to show just 1 word &quot;Help&quot;

Happy days</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must see this, the hoon does it again:</p>
<p>Photographed like a snearing loon against a backdrop of a Swastika</p>
<p>Peering above a poster carefully cropped by the photographer to show just 1 word &#8220;Help&#8221;</p>
<p>Happy days</p>
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		<title>By: What Gordon did next</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Gordon did next</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 02:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Inquisition

If we are on the subject of taking what are basically unsaleable toxic components and packing them up in such a way to mislead people that they are being offered something that has some value:

NuLiebor = Possibly the greatest example of mis-selling in living memory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Inquisition</p>
<p>If we are on the subject of taking what are basically unsaleable toxic components and packing them up in such a way to mislead people that they are being offered something that has some value:</p>
<p>NuLiebor = Possibly the greatest example of mis-selling in living memory</p>
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		<title>By: DBX</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 02:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Callaghan is a seriously underrated prime minister.  A good performance with public administration, an excellent record on the economy, but unfortunately ruined by the unions -- and, lest we forget, his own hubris in getting a little TOO specific regarding his incomes policy.  Callaghan was insistent about a five percent pay cap in 1978, and while he had brought inflation down from 26 percent to eight percent, eight is still more than five.  And with a new generation of more militant union leaders taking the helm during that summer and autumn of 1978, his timing was spectacularly off too.  Denis Healey has suggested that a statement limiting pay raises to the &quot;single figures&quot; would have been sufficient to uphold the policy without dangerously alienating the likes of Moss Evans and Terry Duffy, but Callaghan was insistent on his ace in the hole.  And, as we now see, it permanently damaged Labour.  No new generation of reasonably moderate people emerged to succeed Callaghan and Healey; the liberals in the party, probably the best people for the job, bolted for the SDP Liberal Alliance; the leftists made a big scene that ultimately didn&#039;t amount to very much; and the power-mad authoritarians were left in charge with the result we see today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Callaghan is a seriously underrated prime minister.  A good performance with public administration, an excellent record on the economy, but unfortunately ruined by the unions &#8212; and, lest we forget, his own hubris in getting a little TOO specific regarding his incomes policy.  Callaghan was insistent about a five percent pay cap in 1978, and while he had brought inflation down from 26 percent to eight percent, eight is still more than five.  And with a new generation of more militant union leaders taking the helm during that summer and autumn of 1978, his timing was spectacularly off too.  Denis Healey has suggested that a statement limiting pay raises to the &#8220;single figures&#8221; would have been sufficient to uphold the policy without dangerously alienating the likes of Moss Evans and Terry Duffy, but Callaghan was insistent on his ace in the hole.  And, as we now see, it permanently damaged Labour.  No new generation of reasonably moderate people emerged to succeed Callaghan and Healey; the liberals in the party, probably the best people for the job, bolted for the SDP Liberal Alliance; the leftists made a big scene that ultimately didn&#8217;t amount to very much; and the power-mad authoritarians were left in charge with the result we see today.</p>
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