May 2nd, 2009

Whisky and Revolver Proffered to Gordon by Pundits

Whisky RevolverPeter Oborne, once second only to Janet Daley as Gordon’s biggest booster amongst the right-wing pundits and the last to lose faith in him, is now calling for Gordon to sit down with a bottle of whisky and a revolver.  Oborne says Brown is imploding mentally.

Polly Toynbee once praised Brown as an intellectual colossus, master-strategist and political titan. Now she says Gordon Brown has no ideas and under his leadership Labour has become a rotten, defeatist rabble. Polly recollects that “Many said he had neither the temperament nor the political skills for the top job. I was among those who hoped he had, because you have to live in hope.”  Now she has no hope.

Tomorrow is the thirtieth anniversary of the coming to power of Margaret Thatcher. Under Gordon’s chancellorship and premiership Britain has tested to fiscal destruction the tax and spend approach, perhaps a return to sound money and fiscal conservativism is the change which will bring hope.


864 Comments

  1. 1
    Raving Loon says:

    What “fiscal conservativism”? You mean that the government should spend LESS of our money? Nah, it will never catch on Guido…

    • 23
      MB says:

      is there another way?

    • 186
      thick as thieves says:

      now she has no dope?
      I am sure jacqui would be happy to give her a couple of joints from the home secretary’s super-stash to tide polly over.
      I mean, polly must be a heavy user of cannabis and must have been stoned when she was writing all that propaganda bullshit about gordon brown.
      stoned out of her fucking mind.
      brown has been an umitigated disaster and spastics like polly and robinson have perpetuated that disaster by pumping out their bullshit propaganda.
      the c’unts should be strung up really.

      • 202
        Agent 99 says:

        I am amazed at how quickly these pundits have changed. It was not so long ago weeks even the Pollytwaddle was singing the great ones praises. Now a dramatic turn probably more than a ‘U’.

        The thing is Twaddle is not really stupid just acts it. Yeah we take the mickey out of her but everything she has done is calculated constantly and she must have known long before now that it was all over for the great. Yet she still was the leader of the band. For a journalist to knowingly continue to prop up a government when you know it can only do more damage is utterly disgraceful and unforgiveable.

        When they come to clean out the British stable because the horse has already bolted Polly Twaddle should be at the top of the steaming pile out in the yard.

      • 261
        Doctor Mick says:

        thick as … I got your email. No mate, seventy five pounds ain’t enough. I’m not that way inclined anyway.

      • 347
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        There is a great deal of difference between intelligence, effective intelligence and wisdom. Polly is undoubtedly intelligent, but the other two qualities are sadly lacking. Don’t forget she had the hots for Millibanana a few months ago.

      • 863
        Lee Enfield says:

        Polly Pudenda and Prick Robinson are similar to the twats who were babbling about the New Ice Age fiften years ago and are now spouting off about Global warming, clueless lefties who can only oxygenate with a crap cause.

        I shall despatch a bottle of Tesco whisky (don’t waste malt on this slob) and my trusty .45 Webley Bulldog to the Great Slug. Place both in mouth and take a shot.

    • 554
      Traitors in power! says:

      Suicide watch!

      Do me a favour.

      Throw the expense fiddling traitors a bag of rusty razor blades, tell them to get on with it, film it and then put it on YouTube.

      Now that’s what I call suicide watch.

    • 589
      Greychatter says:

      From John Redwood’s blog regarding David Cameron speech at Cheltenham

      So for those collagues who have missed David’s speeches and statements on this crucial issue, I list below some of them so next time you can get through the interview by answering the question. The media too, might like to read the Conservative work on controlling spending, instead of parroting the new Labour lie that the Conservatives have failed to come up with any proposals.

      1. ID cards and the National Identity database
      2. New centralised NHS computing schemes
      3. Regional assemblies
      4. Regional Planning quangos
      5. Reduction in the number of Special Advisers
      6. Reduction in the number of MPs
      7. Reduction in size of civil service through natural wastage
      8. Reduction in Tax Credits to higher earners
      9. Reform of welfare payments to put more people into work and off benefit
      10 Cuts in government advertising budgets
      11. Cuts in government purchasing of consultancy services – £4 billion of contracts currently out to tender
      12. Cuts in MP expenses by reducing the number of items they can claim for
      13 Removal of Learning and Skills Council bureaucracy
      14 Removal of £1 billion plus overhead monitoring and interfering with local government from Whitehall
      15 Accelerated sale of assets
      16 Greater role for private finance in housing
      17 Make future public sector pensions more affordable for taxpayers
      Etc etc

      Whatever we say Labour will both claim Conservatives have no ideas on how to cut spending, and that Conservatives intend to massacre essential services! Same old Labour lies.
      http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/04/27/conservative-spending-plans/

      • 680
        denverthen says:

        Well said, Greychatter.

      • 775
        Otto Henchmann says:

        Where can I start.
        Ok here we go,
        1. The ID cards are part of the EU’s internal security arrangements. It has
        nothing to do with Brown or Blair. Has to be done !
        2. Same as above.
        3. The end of the county system and the end of the English Parliament. This has to go because for historical reasons ‘ No parliament can bind a future parlaiment.’ Civil war shit that only the free care about. But legal. Dave knows this.
        3. Brake up of England see above. Dave knows this.
        6. See above.
        7. Never going to happen in a Progressive marxist state.
        10. The state has banned most advertising already. This will not happen becasue the government depends on the support of the mee-de -ya
        15, We have none.
        17. I worked for three days-with out sleep for my pension, – 20 every day when doing cold weather trials off northern Russia during the cold war. Then spent so long out the middle east that not getting skin cancer appears to be a sign that I was’nt trying hard enought. When you think of taking pensions off people think of this. The Irish government has taxed and taken from everyone. Apart from those with pensions given because they were part of the old historic IRA. The death camp guards in Germany still get better pentions then the British who fought in the war. Do not make mistakes now. Just think, do what is right in the long team. You never know it may work. Then there will be less bitterness in your society now and in the future.
        Try not to think to much, it will only make you ill. Just beleave.

    • 742
      IHaveToBeToldWhenToSmile says:

      If anyone from no 10 is reading this could I just say … ha, ha ha!

    • 841
      Biscuitbarrel Cementmixer says:

      Since the state has made sure only criminals can own handguns and is hoping to disarm law-abiding citizens of just about anything else asap, Mr. Oborne should have no difficulty in finding a cheap revolver for Gordon on the blossoming black market, no questions asked.

  2. 2
    • 76
      Labour - Scum says:

      That mad, bad, evil pollayana is singing a death chant. Here she says to the walking dead snoteater burn this place down before you go:

      “Start with a scorched-earth pre-emption of all the easy cuts the Tories will promise: ID cards first, and the Trident madness, which even Tories now question…Transfer the money to the poorest before the Tories take it and give nothing back. ..”

      Seize her and munge McMoron and drop em in the Thames in cemented boots.

      • 78
        Anonymous says:

        Polly says: “Now I’m 60, why do I get free travel and winter fuel payments while still working?”

        Fucking retire then you silly old trout.

      • 265
        PropertyTaxExpert says:

        AntiCitizenOne – I’ve rarely read such twaddle in my life. Pray do tell us what you mean by “externalities” and your comment that “property rights are externalising”. How does taxation “ensure property is used in the most beneficial way” – what if that way excludes homes for people to live in or premises for them to work from? Will the government dictate what all properties can be used for and if so for how long?

        Current property taxation includes business rates, council tax, stamp duty land tax, tax on investment income, capital gains tax, and inheritance tax (doubtless there are others I can’t think of for the minute). Together they make up a very large chunk of government revenue and you’re suggesting that this be double, quadrupled or multiplied however many times needed to replace income taxes?

        By the way, any countries followed your suggestion yet? If not, might it be a further clue as to the “externality of your brain outside your head”

    • 282
      Ars Warts says:

      May the (rocking) horse be with you.

    • 288
      Anon says:

      To 173

      ‘Property Taxes’ ultimately ARE taxes on working. If two people are in the same job and on the same salary, why should the one who squanders their earnings away irresponsibly be the one to pay less tax, while the sensible one has to pay for the old age pensions and old age health care of both??? If I work hard, save hard (instead of frittering my hard earned cash away on expensive holidays, hair cuts and depreciation prone gear like TVs, computers and motor cars) and go to the effort of maintaining my hard earned house(s) against physical deterioration, I do not expect to be penalised at any point(s)by your jealous and immoral ‘property’ taxes.
      ‘Property taxes’ just encourage fecklessness and failure to provide for the future, even among those who are employed, to say nothing of the jobless and pathologically jealous.

      • 319
        grobdj says:

        AntiCitizenOne you are f***ing demented if you think you can command property owners to do your bidding by taxing them

        Imagine you had worked to own an industrial property now standing partly empty

        How would you like to have to pay empty f***ing property rates when there are no tenants in this f***ed up economy of yours

        Do you know how many perfectly good industrial buildings have been dismantled over the last year??????????????????????????????

        No doubt you would introduce a demolition tax, you obviously have a cushy job and no experience of hard work so why don’t you just F*** OFF

      • 341
        Greychatter says:

        Well put Grobdj – AntiCitizenOne – and others with the same mentality just don’t have a clue of what this last Ten years of the Blair/Brown/NuLabour economics have been like for Manufacturing Industry in the UK.

        These “Two” (not forgetting Molly Mandleson as EU Trade Commissioner) have been the best “Job Creation Experts” for China and the lower cost countries ever. Just to keep the cost of living artificially low.

        British manufacturing has been devastated by this mob and millions of pounds worth of perfectly good machinary sold for scrap or shipped abroad.

        Britain will never be able to claw its way back for generations to come.

        The people who made the money that this Government has squanders were the ones with Dirty hands and faces, not the clean shaven inventors of Funny Money.

      • 478
        jD says:

        Quite so! I heartily agree. No taxes unless voluntary like the stupidity tax, or lottery. JD.

      • 675
        Susie says:

        Ha ha ha thicko. You’ve fallen right into my cunning trap (or should that be trapping cnut?)

        I’m puzzled why a self-styled champion of the working class is so affronted by not taxing them.

        PS I pay no income tax because I have no income, I claim no state benefits and I owe my existence to my devastating wit, charm and good looks (hereditary).

    • 290
      Anon says:

      I am entitled to provide both for my own personal and my own genetic futures, by my own hard work and prudence, without being financially penalised for doing so, under the guise of ‘property taxes’ whilst someone on the same income who squanders it all pays less or no tax, and then lives of what I have earned.
      Tell me that I am not so entitled and I will either turn into yet another feckless leech myself, or move myself and my earnings somewhere like Canada, Australia or Monte Carlo and let these more moral countries have the benefit of my services and prudence.

      • 359
        The Accountant says:

        Before we get too deeply into this debate,let us consider the state view on accountancy. The Gershon report is a good example. This allows savings to be counted without the cost of achieving them. i.e. I can sack 25 employees,record that as a saving and then replace them with 25 management consultants without reducing the saving. This quite clearly barking. Any defenders of the current regime arguing an economic view on here should be treated with suspicion if Gershon is an example of the economic model they support.

      • 511
        thick as thieves says:

        oh and while we have all the bread-heads in attendance I think it should be added that the reason for the hyper-inflation of bankers bonuses was because just like pfi’s, those bonuses can be fiddled on the companies books.
        we will have to shut that loop-hole down.
        President Obama shut it down by taxing at 90% the bonuses of employees of companies kept solvent by the taxpayer.
        why on earth didn’t darling copy that policy instead of fannying around with the 50% rate?
        what a fucking idiot!
        but it did keep you tory wankers diverted chattering on and on about it though, didn’t it?
        you daleks fell right into brown and darling’s trap.
        fucking useles tories.

      • 551
        Doctor Mick says:

        You’re raving. You really are.

      • 563
        EC1 PhD says:

        You’re not thick as thieves, you’re thick as short planks.

      • 566
        thick as thieves says:

        dr dick,
        the reason you do not understand is because you are a racist anti-intellectual, as your posts prove.
        if any of the readers are in any doubt about what a fucking c’unt you are they should type Dr Mick into Guido’s search engine and they will see for themselves.
        to be accused by you, a child killer apologist, of being a ‘raver’ is rather like having one’s mental health questioned by ian brady.
        I am completely non-plussed by your cretinous posts mick.
        you’re just a fucking nonce.

      • 568
        thick as thieves says:

        ditto 543.

      • 570
        thick as thieves says:

        543,
        is a single sentence the longest you can manage?
        you fucking spastic.
        ec1 phd? are you fucking autistic you Hunt?
        note to conservative hq: please send better quality trolls to do battle with the great thick as thieves.
        these useless wankers are fucking shit!

      • 607
        thick as thieves says:

        don’ t run away dr mick, I haven’t finished bashing your brains out yet!
        you fucking coward.

      • 643
        Doctor Mick says:

        Oooh, you are awful!

      • 649
        thick as thieves says:

        you got that right motherfucker.

      • 659
        Doctor Mick says:

        Got your last email. One hundred and fifty pounds! No mate, I told you NO. And anyway I don’t live anywhere near Hampstead Heath.

    • 619
      Susie says:

      How about this?

      No income tax. A progressive VAT from 5% for basics to 500% on luxury items… basically we are talking taxing consumption, not labour, not capital. Eminently suitable for an era when the planet’s resources are on the down side of the graph.

      Expensive consumer products will be built to last again, and they’ll be of superior quality and efficiency — if they are not, no-one will buy them and the word would soon get around — flashy advertising or clever marketing will no longer hit the spot. Science, engineering and technology skill will be highly valued and rewarded as they are the bedrock of quality products. Mechanical skills will be valued as the throwaway culture will be at an end and it’ll be cheaper to make do and mend generating a genuinely skilled workforce.

      What about the useless and unskilled? All those call centre personnel, local authority jobsworths/non-jobs now thrown out of work? Each one gets, say, a £7,000 pa government grant? They can sit at home, shoot smack, do whatever they want really, at least they won’t be clogging up the roads or interfering with busy people’s lives. If they find productive work which people will pay them to do, they get to keep the money, but they forfeit their £7000 if their income goes above say, £16000 pa as they’ll be considered to be able to fend for themselves. Each child in the country gets a £5000 pa education voucher which either buys basic state education or can be used to top up private school fees.

      The more educated, skilled and USEFUL you are to other people, the better off you will be.

      • 646
        thick as thieves says:

        “The more educated, skilled and USEFUL you are to other people, the better off you will be.”

        well that’s you fucked then, eh susie.
        the only thing you seem to be useful at is tax evasion. we have far too many tax dodgers like you in this country.
        how much do you earn susie? more than 150k a year? you’ll survive, love.
        cough up or fuck off.
        simple, innit!
        I never heard people like you moaning on the behalf of low earners who have been paying 44% of their incomes in direct tax for the last ten years and have at the same time had their income reduced in real terms while yours has probably risen.
        honestly susie, moaners like you are just full of shit.

      • 648
        Doctor Mick says:

        Thicko…ain’t you got burgers to flip?

      • 655
        thick as thieves says:

        I flipped you over and fucked you pretty good tonight, eh mick.

      • 668
        Doctor Mick says:

        Yeah, yeah mate very impressive.

        But I think you owe an apology to Susie if you’re man enough.

      • 852
        thick as thieves says:

        susie is a torydalek mick.
        I don’t aplogise to robots.
        I rip their wires out and do as much fucking damage as I can to the machine before they shut me down.
        oh and mick, mind your own fucking business.
        there’s a good spastic.

  3. 3

    Polly Toynbee is trying to get herself off the hook if she says she ‘hoped’ that he’d turn out to have the temperament and skills to be leader.

    She was full-on in her praise of this guy.

    Not even the car wreck that is the British economy will convince these loonatics that their policies were wrong.

    A capacity for denial is the foremost quality required of a lefty.

    • 8
      Clartmonkey says:

      Take note that from Polly’s point of view, the real tragedy of Gordon Brown’s abject collapse, which she comprehensively if belatedly documents in CiF today, is that “Now the Blairites are laughing at me…”

      • 30
        Anonymous says:

        Not jut Blairites – I’ve been laughing at her jabbering for years!

      • 151
        Polly T says:

        Fortunately, at an altitude of 30,000 feet on my way to my sumptuous Italian villa I can’t hear any of you. La la la. Captain, another glass of champagne before we land if you please.

      • 358
        Eeyore says:

        I remember when the Guardian was the Manchester Guardian and intellectually respectable. They wouldn’t have touched Polly Toynbee with rubber gloves and tongs. Now it’s just the house mag of the payroll vote. God knows why anyone pays it the slightest attention.

        It’s also poorly written, ill-informed and excruciatingly dull.

      • 559
        Subordinate Clause says:

        Fuck you Polly

    • 21
      Mr Ned says:

      Yup I agree. I mean where the hell was she for the previous 10 years as Gordon Brown continuously demonstrated all of the hateful talents in the treasury that he has employed to destruction in number 10.

      How could the media keep it’s face straight and re-write the previous 10 years of deceit and cowardice into some sort of badge of honour when his duplicitous coup took place?

      The Lobby and the correspondents are enemies of the free people of this land.

      • 44
        Hanging Chad says:

        Give the poor cow a break, for Pete’s sake. Being a champagne socialist must be bloody hard work, with all that money to spend.

        May her deckle-edged Labour Party invitations wrinkle up like Ed Scrotum’s Balls.

      • 657
        AOP says:

        Apart from Quentin Letts ! He for PM and Boris for Home Secretary !

    • 40
      Sir Barrington Minge says:

      “Intellectual collossus” eh?

      I have never subscribed to that view and the more evidence I see the more I know I was right.

      Brown’s intellect is one-track, superficial and totally at odds to the rest of the world and sadly (for him) he is the only one who doesn’t see it.

      In reality he is an intellectual pygmy.

      The problem with the whiskey and the loaded revolver is that he might well drink the whiskey and then come out and shoot anyone he finds.

      Where are the “men in grey suits” who should be telling him that the game is up?

      For the sake of the country someone must get him out and soon.

    • 53

      Full-on in her praise? That’s an understatement! :o)

    • 179

      Polly did not have hope. She had delusion, and wanted to shore it up by convincing others.

      Polly still cannot see that Socialism is systemically dysfunctional.

    • 192
      Galloping Gurner says:

      She said that Blair and Brown were the best thing to happen to politics.

      She is the epitome of the ostrich with its head in the sand.

    • 198
      King Karlos says:

      You can almost hear the sound of pencils rewriting pages of her memoirs.

    • 322
      Budgie's socialist moron. says:

      It isn’t my kind of socialism.

    • 663
  4. 4
    Clartmonkey says:

    The Chinese media are avidly following the story of the Downing Street petition – they predicted this yesterday…
    http://www.china.org.cn/international/2009-05/01/content_17707883.htm

  5. 5
    Anonymous says:

    Not too much whisky though, we wouldn’t want him to miss.

    • 27
      thick as thieves says:

      look, it doesn’t matter if gordon does it himself or someone else does it, the bottome line is -
      SOME MOTHERFUCKER HAS GOT TO PULL THE FUCKING TRIGGER!!!!!!!
      if no one has the guts then give the job to me. I will not fail the people of this country.
      gordon must go. we are in a state of national crisis and all everybody is doing is talking about this useless piece of shit, gordon brown.
      we need a national unity type government because no single party has sufficient qualtity individuals to form government. we will have to pool the best of all the main parties as we did during the second world war.
      dave’s no churchill but he’ll do as the front man, and with a cabinet of strong cross-party ministers to block his more dopey tory ideas we should be able to get through the worst intact.

      • 70
        Throbber says:

        Whats the point in taking any of the current shower of shit into a unity government? They are all evil, corrupt, deceitful, useless sacks of shit. Not one of them would be any use to anyone whatsoever.

      • 81
        thick as thieves says:

        throbber,
        I am merely suggesting a temporary measure.
        and we shouldn’t forget that if an election is called in september, after the expense receipts are published, then we will be assured a good clear-out of all the worst fraudsters.
        cheer up throbber, we’re onto a fucking winner here.
        and after all, my plan is the best one on offer.

      • 133
        Anonymous says:

        20 million volunteers.

    • 37
      Trumpeter Lanfried says:

      For some reason, the whisky in the illustration has two large lumps of ice. This suggests that even in his last moments Gordon will be unable to resist a little quantative easing.

    • 49
      Hugh Briss, Kirkaldy says:

      Anyone think he’ll use a dum(b)-dum(b) bullet?

    • 100
      Four-eyed English Genius says:

      No use giving him a revolver. He would miss stone cold sober. He needs a blunderbus at least!

      • 116
        JohnS says:

        What would he aim for? Heart or Brain? I don’t think he has either.

      • 239
        Hanging Chad says:

        I don’t think the defence budget runs to pistols and ammunition. I could lend him my spud gun and a couple of Jersey Royals, but I need the food. Perhaps he could beat himself to death with a Nokia after a lesson or two from Naomi Campbell.

      • 335
        Four-eyed English Genius says:

        JohnS:

        He would stand the best chance of hitting his brain if he stuck the barrel up his backside!

      • 525
        MJC says:

        Oh I don’t know, if he takes the glass marble from the socket and replaces it with the gun, he could certainly blow something out, even if its only snot balls.

    • 228
      Hugh Briss, Kirkaldy says:

      Make sure it’s Bells – Afore ye go!

      • 278
        bartholomew says:

        Self-disentrailing would be best – perhaps with one of those large Gurkha knives? Anyone around prepared to twist it a little further – don’t all run!

      • 471
        Doctor Mick says:

        Or Famous Grouse – the Low Lifer.

      • 591
        Faux Cul says:

        Arse or heid, same target

  6. 6
    The Unknown Streetcleaner says:

    Are people really expecting McDoom to do ‘the Honourable Thing’?

    This man is all ego.
    He will not leave of his own accord.

    • 14
      The Unknown Streetcleaner says:

      And La Toynbee must be living permanently in Tuscany, away from the UK media.
      She seems to think that the finacial wasteland that NuLabour has created can be wished away with a few ‘nice’ thoughts.
      She is a deeply stupid woman.

      • 77
        Spangle de Gangle says:

        Let us use this thread to heap opprobrium on the pointless lump of lard that is Polly Toynbee.

        Her early life (equipping her to pontificate) is catalogued by Wikipedia’s drones as follows:

        “Toynbee was [sic] the second daughter of the literary critic Philip Toynbee (by his first wife Anne), granddaughter of the historian Arnold J. Toynbee and great-great niece of philanthropist and economic historian Arnold Toynbee after whom Toynbee Hall in the East End of London is named.

        “After attending Badminton School, a girls’ independent school in Bristol, followed by the Holland Park School, a state comprehensive school in London (she had failed the Eleven Plus examination), she read history at St Anne’s College, Oxford, but left before completing her degree to work in factories and schools to document the lives of poorer people for a book.”

        Poorer people. How’s that for condescension? Notice also that she has fuck-all education.

        Our drones go on:

        “Following in the footsteps of Barbara Ehrenreich’s ‘Nickel and Dimed’ (2001), she published in 2003 Hard Work: Life in Low-Pay Britain about an experimental period voluntarily living on the minimum wage, which was £4.10 per hour at the time. She worked as a hospital porter in a National Health Service hospital, a dinnerlady in a primary school, a nursery assistant, a call-centre employee, a cake factory worker and a care home assistant, during which time she contracted salmonella.”

        Salmonella. Right.

        Now, Holland Park Comprehensive, as we all know, is the elite state school for champagne lefties like old Arnold who don’t want to get spiked on the Diane Abbott/Tony Blair (etc., etc.) accusation of hypocrisy.

        St Boris the Buffer has defined her thus: [she] “incarnates all the nannying, high-taxing, high-spending schoolmarminess of Blair’s Britain. Polly is the high priestess of our paranoid, mollycoddled, risk-averse, airbagged, booster-seated culture of political correctness and ‘elf ‘n’ safety fascism”; while the pithier and less erudite Mr John Littledick of Daily Mail fame opines: [she is] “a sad, silly cow”, which is probably as effective.

        I just think she’s (a) irrelevant (b) a dinosaur and (c) a despicable hypocrite.

      • 94
        Anonymous says:

        Toynbee seems to be a bit of a “Thicko” as well, failing her 11 plus and dropping out of uni. It seems to me that she only got into oxford because of her “connections” how very socialist. Her place could have been filled by some bright spark form a council house could it have not ? But then again one rule for us and one for them. Vile Hypocrite that she is.

      • 168
        Backwoodsman says:

        There needs to be a Kemer Rouge style re-education programme for twats like polly. Stick them on a scottish island and make them run a small business under current govt policies to feed and support themselves. (And watch them starve).

      • 218
        Clartmonkey says:

        “Let us use this thread to heap opprobrium on the pointless lump of lard that is Polly Toynbee…”

        An excellent idea. So hats off to the CiF poster last week who pointed out that the reason why Polly hates Grammar Schools is because on the one occasion where she found herself in fair competition with people who didn’t share her privileged background, and where her family connections couldn’t do the job for her – the 11-plus – she failed.

        A beautifully-directed skewer that was no doubt deleted once the moderators had worked their way round to it.

        Incidentally, since she only got one A-level (or maybe it was an O-level), and it was probably ‘Modern Studies’ (the last refuge of the chronically unacademic in these days), it appears that she gained admission to Oxford as a result of an essay ‘she’ wrote.

        If her current efforts are representative of her writing and thinking ability after forty years of practice, one is entitled to wonder exactly what she came up with at the age of 18 that so wowed the Oxford-entrance examiners.

        In fact, it would be interesting to sit down with the whole Toynbee family and explore the true authorship of ‘her’ Oxford-entry prize-winning essay.

      • 277
        Hugh Briss, Kirkaldy says:

        Re 162: How about Gruinard, of anthrax fame?

    • 158
      Trumpeter Lanfried says:

      Unfortunately, if you write loony nonsense, week in and week out, so that hundreds of readers feel obliged to interject a note of sanity, you become a “widely read”, “controversial”, “thought-provoking” and “influential” journalist. For which you are handsomely rewarded.

      If you think this unfair, don’t read her, don’t talk about her and don’t post on Cif.

      • 191
        Admiral Gnome says:

        You might like to know that Mrs Gnome was at school with Polly Toynbee, and also at Oxford with her.

        Mrs Gnome reports that Polly was unpleasant to everyone, and that in return everyone was unpleasant to her. She had no friends at all.

        Ah, how things change. Not.

      • 197
        Pollyfiller says:

        Oh I don’t know. Posting Polly bashing on CIf apart from being almost as good as blood sports can serve a purpose. It opens eyes for some of younger or newer or curious readers for instance.
        Also the comments get google indexed and appear all over the web which helps in making her look even sillier.

        So yes she is trite strumpet but baiting her is good sport.

      • 594
        Faux Cul says:

        If she will not visit Gruinard, could Geuinard visit her?

        allegedly

  7. 9
    johnny come lately says:

    Guido, well said. Your last paragraph says:-

    Tomorrow is the thirtieth anniversary of the coming to power of Margaret Thatcher. Under Gordon’s chancellorship and premiership Britain has tested to fiscal destruction the tax and spend approach. A return to sound money and fiscal conservativism is the change which will bring hope.

    IS Cameron the answer?

    • 25
      Michael Hargrave says:

      IS Cameron the answer?

      Why not? Is he all that horrible? He is personable and likable. Seems ready to engage and for all his so-called shallowness he has a reasonable team around him. And of course there is the Public Service, if ever the political plants can be weeded out.

      Anyway, you only have to put up with him for 5 years, if he does not shape up.
      IS Cameron the answer? Who else? More of New Labour with GB? You have to be joking.

    • 28
      insert-coin-here says:

      If the question is:

      7 Across.

      EU salesman who thinks feral yoof need more social workers.Morally trumped by David Davis,ideologically trumped by Daniel Hannan.Likes windmills.

      Then the answer is probably yes

    • 31
      Mr Ned says:

      A philosophy of getting more for less and having a finance director in each department to enforce that policy and a recruitment into cabinet policy of promoting people who do get more for less, and sacking those that don’t would be a bloody good start in that direction and that is exactly the philosophy that Cameron has promised.

      Whether they really mean it or will do it, is another matter. We can only wait and see on that one, but one thing is for sure, it is the direct opposite of what labour are doing and of what the lib-dems are proposing.

      • 48
        insert-coin-here says:

        More civil servants to oversee policy implementation and department budget keeping.

        How very refreshing…….

      • 169
        Alien8n says:

        I think you’ll find they’ll be “promoting” into the position and part of the job description will be a willingness to sack incompetents.

        Labour has taken the military adage of promoting someone to their level of incompetence too far in promoting the most incompetent one to the position of PM. Expect an awful lot of rumours to start circulating in the next few months, not attacking the Tories, but attacking Labour MPs as Brown tries to limit the number of potential future Labour leaders. But to be fair Kinnock would be a better Labour leader than Brown and he’s an outright commie.

      • 220
        Agent 99 says:

        Is Cameron the answer.

        In all honesty Labour made and left and appalling financial mees in the 70′s that all but wiped out anything that could be done by the Conservatives in the following decade. This time they have done it again but this time the mess is so bad I don’t think there is any easy answer. Even maggie would struggle with this.

        Whatever happens as soon as the next government takes over the books must be opened and the damage assessed and made known. When the horrors are then available for all to see the Labour party should never ever be allowed to hold office again. We almost finished them off the last time bu it is absolutely imperative that there can be and must be absolutely no mistake this time as we drive the stake into their rotten hearts..

      • 225
        NewGirl says:

        in that case go for Livingstone…

      • 242
        Alien8n says:

        That’s the thing with old style Labour, you knew where you stood with them. None of the lying thieving sleaze that goes on now, they just simply came out and told you what they were going to do.

        Mind they’d proven themselves totally inept at running a country. Much like New Labour come to think of it…

      • 247
        Adam Micky-wits says:

        Would it really be all that complicated to start by giving one junior Minister assisted by a couple of staffers one week to do this:
        Compile a list of all fully or partly publically funded bodies whose titles include the
        word[s]
        Outreach
        Workshop
        Gender
        Discrininat[ion]e
        Equal[ity]
        and then issue immediate closure and redundancy notices.
        You’d relocate about 100,000 parasitic busybodies to the Job Centres and lose fuck all worth keeping.

    • 845
      Dave R says:

      Is Cameron the Answer?

      Dunno. But he’ll be better than GB, because I’m betting the conservatives believe democracy is better for business than dictatorship – rather than as a hindrance that kept them out of power for 18 years (Labour 1979 – 1997).

      And he’ll also be better than Margaret Thatcher. In the rush to pan GB – and that’s no bad thing – don’t forget whose free market and deregulation ideas got us into our current mess.

      I used to think that the fact Margaret Thatcher hadn’t died was a shame. I still want her to snuff it, but if she’d done so sooner people might look up to her as a some sort of role model.

      Now that the credit crunch has happened and the free market ideology has been proven bankrupt – nearly making the banks that way as well – she can die (painfully but not too slowly I hope) and be regarded for what she really is. And I can go to the street parties celebrating her death.

  8. 10
    Anonymous says:

    “Now she has no hope”

    Only Now Guido? Polly has always been hopeless.

  9. 12
    Anonymous says:

    OH HARRIET !!

    Whip me with that fiscal rectitude !! Punish me harshly for my imprudence !! Boss me about with that ‘nanny state’ attitude to put me back in my box… Cackle evilly as I walk about on all-fours to apologise for my sexist blokey attitude and those evil smears.. Let me demonstrate my submission by licking your feet and ooh ooh, sorry I can’t do any more..

    I think I’ve just come in my pants…

    Truly you are the leader we need to whip us back into line…

  10. 15
    StrongholdBarricades says:

    A sad day when we have to “rely” on Mandy

    • 67

      Labour unravels…

      Ed Balls, the Child Minster, today claimed that he didn’t break the economy. ‘It was post neoclassical endogenous growth theory wot done it – and then ran away’ he insisted.

      Moreover, did you know that Polly Toynbee is a clever anagram of Looney Lept By? She should change her name to Folly…

    • 180

      “post neoclassical endogenous growth theory(disproved)” is the mad idea that you can fine people who engage in the mutually beneficial exchange of their time with no ill effects because “innovation” will make us rich.

      WRONG.

      Income taxation (Income Tax, Employer and Employee NI, VAT and corporation tax) has a hugely destructive effect on the economy.

      Want to revive the economy? Move taxes away from working (an activity with only positive externalities) and onto property based taxation (property rights are externalising and taxing them helps make sure property is used in the most economically beneficial way).

      Basically it boils down to this. Gordon and socialism are 100% economically wrong and thus the economy is inevitably fucking up.

    • 352

      Hate to be controversial, chaps, but how about no taxes at all?

      It’s nothing but theft with actual or menaced violence attached, and the state is nothing more than a well-entrenched mafia which has successfully propagated a ‘protection’ ideology that this mafia is ‘essential’ to maintaining the security of the rest of us. However, despite the superficial plausibility of this ideology, they need to continually pump this message into us 24 hours a day, to keep us believing it, as well as by running schools and universities to pollute the minds of our children, and various other propaganda agencies such as the BBC, to keep ramming the message home, at all times, that government is ordained by God.

      But nobody in Gordon’s client state pays taxes, at least not in anything other than a purely nominal and sleight-of-hand way, so why should any of the rest of us pay taxes to prop up this tax eater class, when we would not voluntarily pay for the ‘services’ they deliver us?

      There are two classes. The tax payers (most of us) and the tax eaters (a large minority). We need to get these tax eaters off our backs and we need to get them productive, so that they can fend for themselves.

      The easiest route to this is to simply privatise everything that moves. And then privatise everything that doesn’t move. If there’s anything left in the remaining rump state, taxes will be so negligible that most people will hardly notice them. Mono-maniac nutters like me will notice, of course, but we’ll keep on thinking of ways to shrink the state even more, while the rest of you drown in a cornucopia of wealth, innovation, and unbelievable prosperity.

      People in Dubai, Bahrain, Monaco, Lichtenstein, Singapore, Hong Kong, Andorra, the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man, and various other places, manage to exist without huge intrusive governments and gargantuan bureaucratic health, welfare, and education systems soaking up 50% of everyone else’s income.

      So why don’t we give it a try?

      Obviously, as an anarcho-capitalist myself, I won’t be happy until we’ve even shredded the pay cheque of the last member of the land registration office, and then sacked them for their trouble, before selling off Windsor Castle to the highest bidder, but I think the rest of us would be happy with tax rates at 10% per annum, or less, and a tiny government looking after defence, land registration, and the trimming of the verges at Balmoral.

      At those kinds of rates, who cares how they collect it? A 10% VAT tax (and no other taxes of any kind whatsoever) would probably be the easiest solution. And just think how the economy would grow under those kinds of conditions.

      Obviously, every single member of the client state, every MP, every Euro MP, every hanger on, every toady, every Charlie Whelan, every Damian McBride, and even every Derek Draper, would actually have to do something useful and productive, which somebody else would have to be voluntarily willing to support financially, to avoid starving in the gutter.

      But what exactly would be wrong with that?

    • 455
      Mr Ned says:

      Jack Maturin, What a good idea. The originally tax was on unearned profit. I.E. if a farmer buys seed and grows wheat and then sells the grain to a miller, then he has added value, = no tax. The miller buys the grain and adds value by turning that grain into flour. = no tax. If a rich merchant buys up all the flour and creates a shortage, then he waits for demand from the bakers to increase and then he sells the flour at a profit, he has added no value, THAT should be taxed. Then the bakers buys the flour and adds value by his labour by turning the flour into bread. = no tax.

      Income tax should be abolished on people’s labour. My labour should be a fair and equitable exchange between me and an employer as I am not creating profit.

    • 560
      A Rationalist says:

      Jack Maturin: you weaken your argument by labelling yourself as a “anarcho-capitalist” – whereas all you are saying is plain common sense.

    • 562
      McSane says:

      I think Anticitizenone has been granted the privilege of publicising his daft views on LabourList. There was certainly a post to similar effect a few weeks ago. He is obviosuly madder than mad Broonie McLoon, the winner of the Scottish lunaic competion for the last 12 years plus (against formidable competition).

      But maybe he’s just Dolly gibbering away.

    • 817

      > Jack Maturin: you weaken your argument
      > by labelling yourself as a “anarcho-
      > capitalist” – whereas all you are saying
      > is plain common sense.

      Sorry, A Rationalist. Next time I’ll call myself, ‘An English Believer in Freedom’. Hopefully that’ll do the trick! ;-)

      Anarcho-Capitalist is actually a short-hand for my full designation. The last time I worked it out, I was an:

      Anarcho-Austro-Agoric-LeFevrian-Konkinite-Hoppeian-Rothbardian-Misesian-Capitalist

      But that REALLY frightens the horses! :-)

      > Jack Maturin, What a good idea.

      Mr Ned, you misunderstand my position. I believe that pound-for-pound, ALL taxes are equally evil, certainly in terms of morality, and that they should ALL be removed. If you leave ANY of them in place, they will only be used as a lever to re-introduce more of them.

      Because once you have successfully abandoned morality, through socialist or democratic ideology (eg. stealing is good, so long as it is done by the state; or counterfeiting is good, so long as it is done by the state; or murder is good, so long as it is done by the state), then the attractions of gaining a piece of the stolen pelf income, that taxes represent, usually clouds the minds of most men well enough to get them to abandon reason.

      Look at the United States. They have a libertarian revolution and throw off a mighty imperial power, to leave just the tiniest rump of taxes and the tiniest rump of state power. Pennsylvania was virtually anarchist, as was Virginia, Vermont, and most of the western edge of the 13 colony territory. And yet, from the tiny fledgling federal state formed by the Hamiltonians via their railroaded constitution, hedged in by powerful written restrictions, we now witness the most frightening fascist state the world has ever seen, which treats the whole of Asia as a military playground and which is fast descending into becoming a national socialist hell-hole.

      No wonder the Texans and the Alaskans are talking about getting out.

      This took just 250 years.

      This is why ALL taxes should be stamped out, and we should never stop by just reducing them to a bare minimum, of say, 10% of GDP. This 10% will still be feasted upon by the most evil, grasping, and unproductive within society (eg. Draper, McBride, Brown, etc) and used to propagandize the rest of us into believing that more should be taken, 20%, 30%, 40%, 50%, until eventually we’re back to where we started.

      But IF while you are actively engaged in removing taxes and getting them down to zero, you feel you must fund some state practices temporarily, until you can think of generally acceptable ways of privatising them (eg. a land registration office, the Queen, the Army, NHS smoking awareness counsellors, and other difficult privatisation targets) then you should temporarily use taxes which are the cheapest to operate and which intrude into personal liberties the least.

      Hence VAT is perhaps slightly less evil than income tax, on a revenue-raised basis, because it generally intrudes less closely into personal details and generally requires less bureaucrats to administer.

      But being slightly less evil and dangerous, is hardly a glowing paean of affection for something which, in pound-for-pound terms, is an equally pernicious, distorting, and destructive device for legitimising theft. The statists would still find some way to turn the proceeds of VAT against the rest of us, and use them to enslave us again, in yet more taxes, to free themselves from the burden of having to work productively in the market or of having to persuade us to voluntarily support their usually self-obsessed lifestyles.

      Intellectuals hate having to make themselves useful and attractive in the market place, hence their usual support for socialism. Prop these kinds of people up in any way, through any kind of taxation, however miniscule, and they will quickly use their intellectual abilities to cloak the minds of the rest of us in the need for more taxes, to ‘support’ a ‘Great Society’ (i.e. one in which there are lots more of these parasitic tape worms, at the BBC and Channel4, in the Universities, writing for the Guardian – funded by state job adverts and state-working subscribers, working in state schools, or troughing at desks in Whitehall.)

      All though you need to do, to see through their self-serving lies and distortions is to remember the main property-based commandments from the Graeco-Judaeo-Christian tradition. I am no Christian myself, but you can do a lot worse than basing your morals around them, and it is no surprise that civilisation itself grew up around these property-based edicts and generally falls apart when they are ignored by enough people. Let’s summarise them:

      -> You should not murder other people
      -> You should not steal the property of other people
      -> You should not be envious of the talents or the property of other people

      No wonder statists hate the Bible so much. Statists routinely murder other people (eg. wedding parties in Afghanistan or Brazilians on tube trains), routinely steal from other people (but they call it taxation), and base entire statist philosophies, such as socialism, upon the destructive monster of envy.

      No Mr Ned, all taxes are evil. None of them can be justified. They all distort useful production, they all steal from the useful and support the useless, and they should all be removed. We should attempt to build a totally voluntary society, in which all property transactions are based upon willing participation and not on force and theft.

      But that’ll teach me, for daring to concede anything on taxes, however temporarily! ;-)

  11. 16
    resurgemus says:

    Berlusconi is claimimg he is the world’s most popular leader – perhaps we could arrange a swap, after all he used to running a debt laden basket case and he’s much more fun to watch

    • 50
      cheche says:

      Dat man makes no sense. I am de eorls most popular leader

      R Mugabe

    • 171
      Alien8n says:

      When you see who he plans to shortlist for election you can see his point.

      • 229
        NewGirl says:

        he’s asked me, natch

      • 244
        Alien8n says:

        Oh yes? Think we need a pic then ;)

      • 246
        NewGirl says:

        like you guesing!

      • 250
      • 343
        Jealous Guy says:

        @ New Girl and Alien8n:

        FFS, get a room!!!

      • 349
        Anonymous says:

        Jealous guy, I wouldn’t bother, it’s the same saddo posting as Alien8n and NewGirl. It’s the only way he can get any action.

      • 353
        Alien8n says:

        You wish. Anyway, Guido can prove we’re different people, he just needs to check the IP addresses. Mind you with my luck Newgirl’s IP address will match that of 10 Downing Street

      • 395
        Doctor Mick says:

        “Newgirl” might just be a hairy-arsed lorry driver getting kicks from flirting online with young chaps.

        You have been warned.

      • 411
        Doctor Mick says:

        Doctor Mick says:
        Your comment is awaiting moderation. WHY???
        May 2, 2009 at 5:13 pm

        “New­girl” might just be a hai­ry-ar­sed lorry dri­ver getting kicks from fli­rting online with young chaps.

        You have been war­ned.

      • 427
        Alien8n says:

        Exactly Dr Mick.

        Politics aside if you can’t have fun and a glass of whiskey by your side what’s the point.

        Mind they’ve already taxed the whiskey, only a matter of time till they tax the fun as well

      • 440
        Doctor Mick says:

        Let’s just hope they don’t increase the tax in diesel anymore otherwise “newgirl” will be out of a job. ;)

      • 451
        NewGirl says:

        I’m not hairy arsed! I am a girl! And I’m not Alien8n. I’m just me!

      • 473
        Doctor Mick says:

        If you say so, mate.

      • 490
        thick as thieves says:

        new girl,
        you do know that dr mick and alien8 are gay lovers, don’t you?
        oh dear, you really are a new girl.
        they are only being nice to you because they think they can talk you into holding the video camera to record them doing their gay rimming stuff.
        dr mick and alien8, leave new girl alone.

      • 496
        NewGirl says:

        i knew there was a reason…

      • 497
        NewGirl says:

        besides I’m just waiting for Anonymous to pop up and call me a whore…

      • 539
        Doctor Mick says:

        holding the video camera to record them doing their gay rimming stuff

        This is choice stuff, thick as.., where on Earth did you come up with this kind of information?

        BTW

        I’ve blocked your emails – no more offers thanks. Not even a hundred will make me turn the other way.

        Tata Petal.

      • 547
        Ghost of Ian Smith says:

        newgirl 221 did you say natch or snatch?

      • 613
        thick as thieves says:

        is that the best you’ve got doctor?
        what weak medicine you are prescribing.
        how do I know about the video thing?
        because you tried to get me to video you rimming your boyfriend before you asked new girl.
        honestly, your memory is fucking shit mick. you knew I was a juvenile when you asked me hold the video.
        you fucking nonce.
        this is too easy mick, far too easy.

      • 645
        Doctor Mick says:

        Bloody ‘ell, you’re even more ga-ga than Broon. What pills you on son?

      • 666
        thick as thieves says:

        doctor mick,
        please refer to my previous post.

  12. 17
    Embarrassed says:

    Well well well. From fiscal rectitude to rectal fistitude in two short years.

  13. 18
    resurgemus says:

    a golden shower of a government if ever there was one

  14. 19
    Sir Richard Branstons says:

    As BBC drone Jane Garvey once said, ‘i will always remember the empty bottles of champagne when i came into work on the morning of Labour’s victory’.

    On the morning of the new Tory government we can only hope the BBC offices are full of suicide notes

    • 36
      Mr Ned says:

      suicide notes are unsatisfactory, unless there are actual bodies hanging from the rafters, they will only done a half arsed job.

    • 51
      Bill d'Sarse says:

      Resignation letters will do.

      That way the public will be spared the months of crocodile tears, wailing documentaries and wall-to-wall coverage of the funerals.

      Go. Go now. Quietly. You’ve made far too much noise since 1997 and now’s the time to be quiet.

    • 233
      Agent 99 says:

      and empty of left wing beeboids….

  15. 22
    Sir Richard Branstons says:

    How many times has national treasure Ms Toynbee changed her mind about McMental?

  16. 24

    [...] This post was Twitted by UKRightofCentre – Real-url.org [...]

  17. 32
    Moley says:

    The first problem which needs resolving is election rigging through postal vote fraud.

    • 39
      Mr Ned says:

      Seriously, but we should NEVER accept electronic voting. NEVER EVER!

      • 69
        Gordon says:

        That is why I will not accept that hideous petition on MY website.

        Delapsus Resurgem!

    • 101
      Pissed off voter says:

      agreed, but it’s a problem not limited to postal voting. Like most, I was aware that voting fraud existed but when I googled recently, I was shocked by how much chicanery goes on. Rigged voting from Birmingham to Bethnal Green, Slough, Reading, Leeds, – just come up with the name of town. How many have not come to light? Glenrothes register judged to be a mistake, Thamesmead fiasco which mirrored the Dunwoody junior and Prescott junior attempts to restrict seats on the gravy train to a privileged inner circle. The farcical Scottish election for which one Douglas Alexander held responsibility – but not accountability. This same Douglas Alexander is expected to be responsible – but probably not accountable -for the coming general election.

      • 125
        reg511 says:

        To All

        Email your MP and enquire how to petition UN for oversight of elections. Please post any worthwhile advice!

      • 480
        uk Fred says:

        You’ve got to remember that Wee Doogie is a son of the Manse just like McMental

    • 212
      Postal voter scam ahead says:

      Right and it must be fixed BEFORE the next election the Snot-led scum plan to steal ethnic votes by the household full (average of 20 votes per home in some parts of Blackburn).

      • 423
        Guess Who? says:

        And that’s just the downstairs.

      • 574
        Subordinate Clause says:

        We never had a problem with the downstairs, until they started asking for more holiday, like!

  18. 41
    nell says:

    Who could ever have thought, when Guido brought down McBride that, that would trigger a series of events that have paralysed the government, brought the Labour Party to the brink of civil war and left Gordon in some sort of mental state? – who could have known that forcing him to part with McBride would affect him so badly? In my whole life I don’t ever remember feeling so disgusted and anti about any other prime minister or government (although Tony came close over the Dr David Kelly affair) , and I’ve voted for all 3 parties at various times. Anyway , well done Guido.

    • 143

      A lot more than McBride to all. That whole Kelly episode needs to be reopened. Along with an investigation in to whether Labour Ministers (including both Prime Ministers) were guilty of war crimes. We were promised a full enquiry in to the circumstances of the Iraq War, once we left Iraq. The British army have now left Iraq, so where is the enquiry?

      • 145

        To fall. Although all of them should fall. There should not be a single ZanuNuLab MP after the next election. Here is hoping the Scots Nats wipe Labour out in Scotland.

      • 203
        Anon says:

        I regret to inform you that no enquiry will be taking place as it’s a bank holiday.

      • 223
        Macbeth - a Snotty tragedy says:

        Yep the Liebour shitepile should be buried so deep that they never again take office.

        Let the left of that bent, regroup around a purged party, a different name and a commitment to democracy.

        Meanwhile convene a Nuremberg Economic War Crimes Tribunal and arraign every member of cabinet since 1997 for treason and what ever else the sharpest lawyers in the land can dream up.

      • 550
        Ghost of Ian Smith says:

        why do you think the monocular mutineer is leaving 750 troops as trainers for the Iraqi army?

    • 482
      uk Fred says:

      Although McBride resigned from his role as a SpAd, can anyone confirm that he is no longer on the public sector payroll. Just because I’m paranoid…

  19. 42
    Anonymous says:

    A turkey with hope is still a dumb ass.

    • 583
      Why don't you wanker lefties reveal your identidies? says:

      I agree. Gordon Brown….do I have to say any more?

  20. 46
    Dirty Rat says:

    The cnut would probably miss with a head shot.

  21. 47
    Pete-s says:

    I have just read Pollys column for today. There are at the moment about 80 comments, what a great kicking they are giving her. Made my Saturday!

  22. 52
    Dave H. says:

    Unfortunately, Gordon’s idea of suicide was blowing his factotum’s head off.

    Afterwards, he said he had taken ‘full responsibility for it’.

  23. 54
    Swiss Bob says:

    The Irony is that Cameron and the conservatives are only returning to ‘fiscal conservatism’ because the present shower of shit have bust the country. No incoming Govt has any choice but to follow a fiscally conservative approach.

    And as sure as night follows day in ten to fifteen years Labour will find another charlatan to convince everyone how nasty the Tories have been from 2010 – to circa 2020 and the whole cycle will repeat itself all over again.

    Vote Labour, vote for poverty and Stalinism .

    The Daily Politics

  24. 56
    Alf says:

    Funny how the swine flu has fortuitously come to take the headlines off Gordon with all these supposed thousands going to die.
    Now all of a sudden they are telling us it is not as bad as originaly thought. Food for thought perhapes

    • 86
      Anonymous says:

      Surely someone must have a photo of Gordon kissing the pig that started it off.

    • 99
      Anonymous says:

      Talking of Swine flu

      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8030365.stm

      hysteria “unmasked”

      • 205
        Anon says:

        The BBC also want us to know that this does not mean that we still shouldn’t PANIC…..HELP……SWINE FLU……OVER THERE……HELP……..PANIC PANIC

    • 232
      Oink says:

      Well actually no.

      Swine flu is a mere metaphor for the swilling troughers in parliament led by the fattest trotter of the lot, McShite Bruin.

      All the upwhumped pandemic hyper-ventilating is the sound and fury of the mob baying for swine blood.

    • 499
      Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

      National leaders in trouble often scout around for a war to start, hoping that it will enable them to strut the stage as resolute etc etc.

      Swine Flu gives Gordon such a stage, so we are spared yet another war.

      For now.

  25. 58
    The Beast Of Clerkenwel says:

    Best make it a shotgun , its a pretty small target , that or we get the KGB to invite him over for sushi

  26. 60

    Guido you really must read your own blog Kelvin Mckenzie on here about ten days ago said give Gordon Brown a loaded revolver and a bottle of brandy. I questioned at the time why we should waste a good bottle of brandy!

    • 63
      insert-coin-here says:

      And the troops need every bullet they can get.

      I am much more in favour of Brown topping himself with a claw hammer.

  27. 61

    There must be millions of alternative images
    but the Times has chosen to show the loon
    preparing breakfast… Bastards!

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6207366.ece

  28. 62
    Funambulist says:

    We should campaign for a team of ‘international monitors’ to oversee the elections, just like in some 3rd world craphole.

    Probably too late for the June elections, but essential for the GE.

  29. 64

    @sarahbrown10 is the twitter monika for Mrs Gordon Brown, she really ought to be allowed first pop or the opportunity to put a pillow over his head.. if you can find it the channel4news interview with Brown a couple of nights ago was a corker, hellfire and brimstobe with brown digging himself into an amazingly big hole with a JCB digger, find it Guido and put it up on YoumakeatwatofyourselfTube,

    • 75

      Your website is just about the worst looking
      mess of fonts I have ever seen.

      Not a good advert for your “presentation” skills.

    • 193

      It really is a pretty poor layout.

      I’m not a font and spelling nazi, but jeez. Get some professional
      help for your website Julian Bray. You wont be taken seriously when
      it looks like it was designed by: “your mate who does web stuff”.

      Not trying to be an ass. But Julianlzb87 is right on this.

    • 724
      pp says:

      If people don’t like someones website – why not just email them rather than post comments here?

  30. 66
    Kingfelix says:

    ” is the change which will bring hope. ”

    You can’t seriously be comparing Cameron to Obama. Labour is doomed, but it’s not your rubbish that’s done the damage, you’re just kicking a wounded and dying animal and this blog was nowhere on the radar until things went wrong. Unfortunately, a correlation does not show causation. And it’s not the Tories who have any answers. A quick trawl through the policies on their website shows that. The problem is the political class, full stop, a few old Etonians won’t stop the rot, they are the rot.

    • 74
      Anonymous says:

      Twat

    • 115
      It doesn't add up... says:

      Rot.

      Being a Harvard graduate isn’t of itself any improvement over being an old Etonian.

    • 428
      Doctor Mick says:

      So the Old Etonians are responsible for 12 years of NuLabor carnage?

      One lives and learns.

      • 587
        thick as thieves says:

        that’s your problem mick.
        you learn fuck all and therefore remain a dullard.
        oh well.
        you cretin!

    • 799
      toryhousewife says:

      Well, you might find it interesting that the decline of Britain as a world power correlates almost exactly with the rise of the Labour party and socialism.
      Labour’s first parliamentary seats were won in 1906, but they didn’t get a majority until 1945.
      Funny how we were on a downward spiral from then until 1979.
      And yes, we had Conservative governments during that period, but they didn’t dare buck the status quo initiated by the Labour government of ’45.
      Coincidence?
      By the way, I think “thick as thieves” is a very appropriate name…..

      • 853
        thick as thieves says:

        you seem to be arguing that Thatcher’s policies have had no effect to counter the decline. are you saying Thatcher’s time in power was insignificant?
        toryhousewife is a most appropriate name for you love.
        better get back in the kitchen and leave the politics to the men.
        oh and two sugars for me please.

  31. 68
    Pissed off voter says:

    waste of whisky, just give him the revolver.

    • 534
      Doctor Mick says:

      Waste of a bullet. Just give him a Sainsburys carrier bag and an orange.

      • 590
        thick as thieves says:

        we should give you a carrier bag and an orange and let you do yourself in.
        you child killing nonce.

      • 593
        thick as thieves says:

        doctor mick,
        in case the reader is confused by my accusation that you are a child killing nonce, could you just explain why you think it is okay for the israel army to murder Palestinian children?

      • 600
        Henry the Hippo says:

        for Gordoom

        http://tinyurl.com/dewmu8

      • 854
        thick as thieves says:

        where the fuck did mick go?
        he is normally such a gobby c’unt.
        I must have hit a nerve.

  32. 70
    Moley says:

    I can recommend this Article by Mathhew Parris, entertaining and well worth a link.

    It reminds us that the Cabinet is as much to blame as Brown

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/matthew_parris/article6207111.ece

    Quote.

    Jeremy Vine is a noble figure and Radio 2 a lofty institution, but I had not until this week understood their position in our unwritten constitution. You have the Queen at the top; beneath her the Prime Minister; then YouTube; then Radio2; then the Cabinet; and finally (lowest of the low) Parliament. Walter Bagehot, great Victorian constitutionalist though he was, seems never to have foreseen this.

    There is lots more.

  33. 80
    HH says:

    Its not how big the pie is thats important, its how we distribute it. We really need to make sure those transgender people get their share. I mean there are thousands of them, of course I’ve never seen more than one or two men dressed as women but they really are important, much more important than all those unemployed middle class scum.

    H

    • 112
      Leroy Himmler says:

      “Its not how big the pie is thats important…”
      Tell that to John Prescott!

  34. 82
  35. 88
    Andrew K says:

    Reading the comments on Polly Twaddle’s Grauniad piece, my eye was caught by the three job adverts shown beside it:

    1) HR Relationship Manager, London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham, west London. Up to £53,700

    2) Project Officers; Routes to Solidarity Project. Oxfam GB. In this key role, you’ll help us deliver . . . . . . £27,020 – £33,190 p.a.

    3) Senior Press Officer, Equality and Human Rights Commission, London. £34,334.75 plus £3,200 London Weighting.

    Says it all, really.

    • 252
      Clartmonkey says:

      If I were a Senior Press Officer with the Equality and Human Rights Commission in London being offered 34k + London weighting I would be kicking up a f*cking stink and a half. An ASSISTANT Director of Equality and Human Rights with Nottinghamshire Health Trust is trousering 60-70k:
      Vhttp://www.guardianjobs.mobi/job.asp?jid=5351335&c=policy&ci=64&sf=d&p=s&sess=41105&ds=

  36. 89
    Mary Hinge says:

    Brown is toast.
    I’m loving it!

  37. 92
    Shergar says:

    You’re being relatively kind to Polly, considering her latest embarrassing volte face. Not certain she deserves kindness. Overall, a bad day for the Grauniad’s hatched-faced scolds.

  38. 93
    art1000 says:

    Despite loathing Broon as much as anyone, this is not funny. It is going to cost millions their livelihoods, their health and their future. There will be broken homes, repossessions, families on the street in their hundreds of thousands because of this buffoon and his co-conspirators.

    This imbecile and his shower of corrupt ZaNu Labour acolytes have destroyed the economy of the UK and criminally enriched themselves and their lackeys, chums and assorted fellow travellers in the process. They have form. They ALWAYS wreck the economy. Its what Al Capone and his mates did – a self serving conspiracy – except they went up the river to Sing Sing. This lot will retire on massive pensions courtesy of the tax payer.

    I think the next stage after they are thrown out for Guido to concentrate on is exposure. Let us actually hire the FBI to have a serious set of root and branch investigations to uncover exactly what has been going on over the last twelve years – the lies, the false expense claims, the dodgy contracts and directorships. Let us now try and the bastards not just thrown out but thrown in jail.

    • 108
      Twizzle says:

      Spot on. And not just the prats sitting in the HoC. It needs to involve all those who supported this shower of shit.

      The civil servcie
      The police
      The edukashon service
      The judiciary, in aprticular, the CPS
      The media, in partiicular the BBC
      The health service
      et al

      The whole fucking bunch needs sending out to Uzbekistan to see just how loyal they are to their mother’s teet.

      • 185
        Umal the Uzbek says:

        Hey what did we do to deserve that shower of shits?
        Send them to Afghanistan, at least your troops could use them as target practice.

      • 195
        Moley says:

        Oh Dear!

        If the Civil Service didn’t obey the Government, how do you expect a new Government to change and improve things? Witchcraft?

      • 410
        The Other Pilot says:

        Send them all to the salt mines of Cheshire – when they have been re-educated then they can carry out orders.

      • 420
        Doctor Mick says:

        Nothing has improved these last 12 years. Perhaps Witchcraft might be a decent idea after all.

  39. 96
    Anonymous says:

    So, the pundits are saying “sorry, I didn’t realise he was a blithering idiotic loony all along even though it was blindingly obvious and was constantly pointed out to me over many years by everyone with any common sense”.

    But, the worst thing is that the labour MPs know that they’ll lose their seats under the labour badge so are now all starting to switch parties to the libdems so that they can stay on the gravy train.

    I can’t imagine anything more terrifying than the labour party getting booted out of power by the electorate, only for the same people to regain their power in a hung parliament by moving across to a different part of the house and pretending to be a libdem.

    I hope the libdems tell those defecting labour MPs to fuck off, because the electorate do not want those people (not just the labour party, but specifically the people who’ve been in the labour party the last 10 years) to hold any public office regardless of which party they now pretend to belong to.

    Clegg; if you’re reading this; please tell the defecting labour MPs that your party doesn’t want those wankers; if you don’t tell them to fuck off then your national libdem vote is going to disappear in a puff of smoke. I’ll be fucked if I’m going to vote for a libdem party which takes-in the very people who’ve spent the last 12 years destroying the country.

    • 105
      Papasmurf says:

      Agreed……. also ensure that even those that you MAY be considering to reveall ALL their expenses receipts for their time ias an MP to ensure they have not been in the trough

      • 124
        Blair is a shapeshifter says:

        Agreed these tossers are people with no principles . They only want to save their careers and will blow with the wind.

      • 483
        Anonymous says:

        And no appointments of Outer London MPs until they have disclosed all the second home allowances they have ever claimed – and repaid them (with interest).

    • 113
      Anonymous says:

      If Clegg allows a single labour MP into his party, then my vote’s definitely lost for him.

      Where I live, tories/libdems would be neck and neck, and at the moment the libdems would get my vote, but they’ll lose it if I see a labour MP allowed anywhere near the libdems.

      Clegg; please do tell them to fuck off. Someone who’s been complicit in destroying the economy and wants to remain an MP under a different badge just to stay on the gravy train has no place in your party. If you don’t tell them to fuck off then you’ll lose everything you’re hoping for and your party will be despised even more than labour.

    • 131
      Anonymous says:

      Ashdown says: “the conditions could be in place for defections to the Lib Dems after the next election. ”

      This is different to people switching now, it means that you could vote for the libdems and end up having the libdems take-in labour MPs after you’ve placed your vote.

      To avoid that happening, Clegg needs to make a public statement now saying that there’s a blanket ban both now and after the election of any labour MPs being allowed into his party. If he doesn’t do that then a vote for libdem is a vote for labour, and nobody in their right mind would vote libdem in 2010 if that were the case.

      • 782
        Barrett Bonden says:

        A vote for the LibDems has been a vote for Labour in many constituencies for years!
        It took enough votes from the Tories in the last two (certainly the last) election to elect a Labour MP in many places.

        A vote for the LibDems is also an anti-demoratic vote since they support giving ever more power to the EU. Almost as bad as voting Labour, in my book

  40. 103

    Gordon Brown is just a desperate loser. He is doing a Clinton.. Appealing to the most extreme of the working class base. I would not be surprised to hear him come out and say hard working Britons, white Britons.

    Effective tax rates of 62.8% on highest incomes place us as now one of the highest taxed in the World. This was a pure play to the Labour base. This tax increase compares to the (increased) top tax rate of 39% America introduced. Unlike Brown, the US also passed the biggest ever tax reduction in history for those earning under $250,000. Here middle earners will be faced with another tax increase through the NI system. What Brown has ensured is that if there is any economic recovery – especially in Finance, that recovery will be in the US and not the UK. 80% of hedge fund transactions worldwide used to be done from London.

    The play to the BNP of trying to stop a few brown skinned Gurkahs coming in.

    Terrorism “busts” on on muslims to increase the fear factor, which if secret, why are the BBC always there filming?

    ££££millions spent on very fascistic report any stranger adverts to boost the fear factor.

    None of it is working. The British are fair minded so Brown can play to the BNP vote as much as he wants but he will be left with BNP vote numbers if he does.

    Toynbee should have been exposing the tax legacy of Brown instead of sucking up to him. His big anti child poverty tax credit system, has left millions facing overpayments because of its complexity and effective tax rates of 39%.

    His policies effectively destroyed what remained of British manufacturing, research and design. He did not care as the city was picking up the tab. Now that has gone.

    His strong arming of education proposals and forcing through the performance indicator culture into every public service, leaves Britain with a nation of people able to follow exam courses but unable to write. Public services able to deliver indicators, not services.

    He is a walking disgrace. The Blair legacy after 3 large majority terms was simply Iraq. The Brown legacy is putting Britain on the rack.

  41. 104
    Pissed off voter says:

    When Gordon Brown is talking,
    you’ll know – his nose will grow.
    When Gordon Brown is walking,
    you’ll cheer – his time to go.

    When Gordon Brown is thieving,
    you’ll know – you’ll get the bill.
    When Gordon Brown is leaving,
    you’ll cheer – you’ll think it’s brill.

    When Gordon Brown is lying,
    you’ll know – he’ll move his llips.
    When Gordon Brown is dying,
    you’ll cheer – he’s had his chips.

    When Gordon Brown is shouting,
    you’ll know – he’s lost the plot
    When Gordon Brown is pouting,
    you’ll cheer – the end of Snot.

    • 623

      Gordon Brown is just a desperate loser. He is doing a Hillary Clinton. Appealing to the most extreme of the working class base. I would not be surprised to hear him come out and say hard working Britons, white Britons.

      Effective tax rates of 62.8% on highest incomes place us as now one of the highest taxed in the World. This was a pure play to the Labour Party base. It will raise nothing (will probably cost). This tax increase compares to the 39% top tax rate America introduced. Unlike Brown, the US also passed the biggest ever tax reduction in history for those earning under $250,000. Here middle earners will be faced with another tax increase through the NI system. What Brown has ensured is that if there is any economic recovery – especially in Finance, that recovery will be in the US and not the UK. 80% of hedge fund transactions worldwide used to be done from London.

      Brown was deliberately playing the race card with the Gurkhas. Trying to stop a few brown skinned Gurkahs coming in. It did not work because people respect the Gurkhas.

      He still runs terrorism “busts” on on muslims to increase the fear factor, which if secret, why are the BBC always there filming? Almost all released without charge – every time. So much for good intelligence.

      He spends ££££millions on fascistic “report any stranger” adverts to boost the fear factor.

      Toynbee should have been exposing the tax legacy of Brown instead of sucking up to him. His big anti child poverty tax credit system, has left millions facing overpayments because of its complexity and effective tax rates of 39%. When combined with income tax ad NI that is a 70% tax rate.

      His policies effectively destroyed what remained of British manufacturing, research and design. He did not care as the city was picking up the tab. Now that has gone.

      His strong arming of education proposals and forcing through the performance indicator culture into every public service, leaves Britain with a nation of people able to follow exam courses but unable to write. Public services able to deliver indicators, not services.

      He is a walking disgrace. The Blair legacy after 3 large majority terms was simply Iraq. The Brown legacy is putting Britain on the rack.

  42. 109
    Brown = Thatcher = Brown says:

    Guido, what “hope” did Margaret Thatcher bring? The most broken society we’ve ever endured, unemployment, and war. The only government worse than hers is our current one!

    Just because she was tory, doesn’t mean she was good. She was shite. A return to her policies would fuck our economy for centuries, never mind decades. In fact, it was Brown’s continuation of her policies that got us into this mess. And don’t try to claim she didn’t run on a deficit, she did.

    What we need is a change, a real one, not a reversion to old bitch politics that almost destroyed our country.

    • 126
      Blair is a shapeshifter says:

      Well thats the Labour narrative, but is it actually true /

      • 507
        uk Fred says:

        Thatcher went back to basics in economics and politics. She set more people free from the culture of “the state will provide, whatever happens” and allowed people to benefit from their own hard work.

        Her chancellors reduced the rates of taxation, and in Nigel Lawson’s case increased the proportion of income tax taken from higher rate taxpayers as a proportion the total income tax take. He gave an incentive for achievers to do well.

        This last was a problem for the left because they wanted (and still want) to level down, not to give everyone the benefit of making the most of all that they have. The only problems she left with us were the ambushes from her own Europhile ministers over the EU and the fact that other countries dumped on us while our industry should have been restructuring.

        Perhaps Brown=Thatcher=Brown would like to tell us what the PSBR was for each year of her administration.

    • 146
      deeznuts says:

      seriously…when was thatcher in power ? how many PM’s have we had inbetween ???

      major, blair, brown . im sick to death for thatcher being “blamed” or linked to what has happened,

      this shower of shit have been in power for 12 fucking years, how can you claim that they are just a continuation of thatcher policy,

      the only governments that “destroy” our country is a fucking labour government

      • 167
        anonymous says:

        Totally agree -the “left” have a “thing” about Thatcher – get over it “Comrades” – she has been out power for almost 19 years and the Tories for 12 – look in the direction of Downing Street to see who the fuck’s been in charge for the intervening period – Brown that’s who(even when Blair was PM – Brown went out of his way to put the spanner in every initiative that Blair tried to bring in either by witholding the cash(he didn’t show the Budget to Blair until the previous night for Gods Sake)or by getting the “scum” surrounding him to brief against Blair – Brown deserves everything that’s coming his way as do Labour if they don’t get some nerve and dump him !!!!!!

      • 188

        Anon – even if Labour do get the nerve to dump Brown, Labour STILL deserves everything coming to them.

        Public services ruined by a performance indicator culture
        Stealth taxes, NI hikes, Income tax creep.
        Hyper inflation in the housing market that helped crash the World economy (like hell did the recession start in America)
        An illegal war.
        No privacy from The State.

        All of this Labour MPs clapped in, lapped up and voted for. They still deserve their kicking.

      • 266
        Agent 99 says:

        Anon – even if Labour do get the nerve to dump Brown, Labour STILL deserves everything coming to them.

        AGREED!

        Always remember at each budget the Nu Labour scumbags cheered, waved their order papers and patted each other on the back. Not so fucking good now huh boys and girls???. Every last one should loose their seat. Lets give the Lib Dems a spell as the offical opposition.

    • 175
      Aethelred says:

      No, you’re wrong, you’ve swallowed the lefty propaganda.

      In the days before Thatcher we were run by a Labour government and our dead were unburied, we lived by candle-light and you couldn’t even take a shit without permission from the comrades in the Unions.

      As for war, she did one, in the Falklands which was won and over quickly.

      Your lefty bum-chums have given us all of these wars:
      Iraq 1998
      Serbia/Kosovo 1999
      Sierra Leone 2000
      Iraq 2003-2009
      Afghanistan 2001…

      Under this current Labour government we are once again on the verge of bankruptcy with unemployment soaring. The difference this time is that they have also turned us into a police state.

    • 204
      Alien8n says:

      I’ll bite :)

      Her policies fucked the economy? It was her policies that RESCUED the economy after Labour fucked it up beyond all recognition in the 70′s.

      The most broken society? I think you’ll find society is a lot more broken now than in the 80′s. In fact the last time it was anywhere near this broken was in the 70′s under, you guessed it, LABOUR.

      She took us to war? I think you’ll find Argentina did that. Legally the Falklands are British soil. Would you have us roll over and and allow Iceland to invade the Orkneys or the Shetland Isles? No, so why should it be any different for the sheep farmers down near Antarctica? Just because they’re on the other side of the planet does NOT make them any less British citizens.

      Unemployment? Yes, we had 3.5 million, most as a result of the decisions she had to make to fix the mess Labour left. Look at the REAL unemployment figures today, taking the same criteria that were used at the start of the 80′s it’s closer to 7 MILLION, not 3.5

      Deficit budgets? Yes, every government works with deficit budgets, but they work within the framework of what they can afford to pay back. Thatcher didn’t have to go cap in hand to the IMF for help, unlike, yes again, Labour.

      As a result of Thatcher we had affordable housing. We had fairer taxation. If anyone in the Conservatives should be villified it’s Major who allowed the housing market to boom in the early 90′s and who started playing around with fiscal model.

      It wasn’t all great though. Thatcher gave us the Poll Tax which was then morphed into the Council Tax which in reality is just another Poll Tax under a new name.

      It was the Conservatives that first brought in tax credits. It was Labour who took the system and then fucked it up beyond all recognition.

      • 280
        Rob says:

        Don’t generally like reading any of your comments but this one was a gem. I just wish that I had written it. The trouble with Labour is that they have never forgiven Thatcher for putting their lash up right and actually making Britain a better place to live in.

      • 327

        Alien8n

        Nice to compare Labour records on that point by point basis

        Broken Society. The Chav culture, the benefit culture, police killing random people and worrying about motorists not muggers. Rotten schools except for those that can afford to move to where the best ones are, effectively denying poor people the chances that many of these Labour MPs got themselves.

        Unemployment. The official records of “worklesness” now stands at just over 20% of the active Labour market. Some 7.8 million. Compared to 3 million, or even the 4 million Labour claimed under Thatcher.

        Deficit budgets? Except for the fact that Margaret Thatcher was able to repay back national debt, as was Brown after the economy Kenneth Clarke handed to him, Labour needs to keep its mouth shut on this one. £175 billion this year – based on best possible circumstances.

        Housing – well we now have the irony of Labour having spent billions on joke affordable housing schemes, instead of tackling the hyper inflation in the market, thiis very same Government is spending and guaranteeing over a £trillion to keep housing unaffordable.

        As for Council Tax, when it was £500, it was acceptable. Now even Tory Councils have upped it well above £1000 it is not. Again the fault of ZanuNuLab requiring LAs to employ the clipboard hitlers who staff the pretend police.

      • 332

        I also forgot to add the War comparison. At least hers was legal. She also won hers. ZanuNuLab and their strange NeoCon alliance paid off the paramilitaries in Iraq that we were fighting (and they armed them to). So great a a secular Country is now a Fundamentalist Islamic State run by War Lords. Not only that – there was never any suggestion that the British under Thatcher were complicit in torture. The stench of war crimes from this lot is simply hidden by the bigger stench coming from their incompetence.

    • 390
      Doctor Mick says:

      In the Seventies the UK was in meltdown. Fucking Scargill was bent on destroying a democracy that had taken a thousand years to develop.

      We had the three day week, inflation approaching 40%, so many strikes I lost count; I studied for my O Levels by candlelight because of the powercuts. Rubbish piled high in the streets, rats every fucking where .. the country was ungoverned and a Soviet puppet union leader was about to assume his destiny.

      But Thatcher stopped all that mallarkey in its tracks.

      She fucked Scargill good and proper.

      She brought in good legislation that stopped the unions messing with the constitution and made sure their leaders did what they were supposed to do – look after their members, not taking instructions from Moscow.

      She closed uneconomic industries and nurtured the ones that created wealth. The high unemployment in her early years was transitional – a movement of the workforce from candle making to hi-tech industry.

      But she created the conditions that allowed the NuLabour shysters to bask in 12 years of apparent wealth.

      And so Labour have fucked up again. And now we need another Thatcher but I’m afraid Dave ain’t it.

      • 407
        Alien8n says:

        Yes. Sad fact of the coal mining industry was that it was cheaper to put the miners on the dole than it was to keep digging. And before anyone starts accusing me I’m from a mining family, my dad was the first in a long line NOT to go down the pits. Lol, with my background I should be Labour’s biggest fan, being born in John Cummings constituency.

      • 421
        Doctor Mick says:

        Wedgie Benn as Secretary of State for Inductry closed more pits than Maggie Thatcher. FACT.

        Where was Scargill then?!

    • 801
      toryhousewife says:

      Actually, it was Labour’s policies, the damage of which she had to reverse which led to the societal problems, and the only war was the Falklands, which was approved of by most people.
      She took away the crutch of taxpayer support that had been propping up too much of British industry for too long, and some of it couldn’t stand on its own two feet, thanks to years of communist Luddite trade union leaders more interested in promoting a political ideology and increasing their own power than genuinely looking after their members’ interests for the long term.
      I should know, my grandad was a miner.

  43. 110
    Anonymous says:

    “Tomorrow is the thirtieth anniversary of the coming to power of Margaret Thatcher”

    As another government destroys parts of this country, we are given little choice in correcting the UK excesses. The outcome will be yet another massive swing to the opposite. Our political system is like a drunk walking down the street bouncing off the walls and lamp posts unable to make the progress it needs.

    The only solution is a campaign to vote for MPs that represent communities not parties. We need aged MPs only (chance of by-elections during a parliament). We need business experience, not these nappy hampered non-achievers. We need locals. When the election comes, can we have some real independent assessment of the quality of the candidates outside of politics.

    Guido is doing his bit now, but we need more community Guido’s during the next election to show the shallowness of the candidates BEFORE the vote. The time of the flip-flop party governments is over, we need a real parliament.

  44. 111
    Anonymous says:

    Come on Guido its time to deliver the final blow !! The worst prime minster in our history is on his death bed !

  45. 114
    smallbiz says:

    Watch Polly telling the Public Administration Select Committee, how much she got paid last year.
    http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/VideoPlayer.aspx?meetingId=3990
    time 12.40 – she fesses up to £106k (from the Guardian)

    TPA chap on the committee is lone voice representing taxpayer. Doesn’t seem to be a single other person that appreciates getting value from public spending. Generally depressing stuff.

    • 118
      It doesn't add up... says:

      So she’s going to be in the top tax band? Or is she a non resident for tax purposes in the UK?

    • 477

      Her 106k from the Gruaniad is misleading.
      What about her second (third, fourth etc) jobs
      as rent-a-gob for the BBC et el?

      And where are her receipts for expences?

  46. 117

    [...] Guido Fawkes is on about whisky & revolvers today.  Deja vu? Come on, Guido, you’re the man with the “in”. What’s with this “defectors” story then? [...]

  47. 120
    Mr Christopher says:

    The ‘Prudent Chancellor’ – that masterpiece of the The Big Lie!

    And now ‘The Clunking Fist’ is decomposing into its constituent parts, collapsing by the minute like rotting toadstools.

    • 129
      Anonymous says:

      “The clunking fist” as termed by Blair was /is quite clearly an insult. It depicts Gordon Brown as a big thicko bully type who will always put his foot in it.

      • 285
        Rob says:

        Ermmmmmm so with the benefit of hindsight,in your opinion, was it an insult or fair comment?

  48. 121
    It doesn't add up... says:

    Peter Oborne’s other piece today is worth a read:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1176409/PETER-OBORNE-Where-Maggie-need-her.html

  49. 122
    Sir William Waad says:

    Government – a device whereby those have have never run anything, run everything.

    • 127
      Leroy Himmler says:

      …and ruin everything.

      • 264
        Clartmonkey says:

        Thanks Sir William and Leroy – I will add a combo of these two to my list of stock phrases…

        “Labour governement – a device by which people who have never run anything ruin everything…”

    • 515
      WobblyJim says:

      … into the ground

  50. 123
    Scallywag says:

    Why waste good whisky on this apology for a sub-prime minister. Buy more cartridges instead in case the cretin misses…

  51. 128
    yarnesfromhorsham says:

    Guido – for God sake get on the No.10 Petiton site and propose that “Upon the retirement/resignation of Gordon Brown under no circumstances is he to be considered for a Peerage”

  52. 132
    Mr Christopher says:

    Whiskey? More likely a phial of cyanide provided by John ‘Dodgy Dossier’ Scarlett, a final abdication of responsibility concealed between the cheeks of The Leaders bottom.

  53. 134
    Anonymous says:

    Anyone know if the prime mentalist has organised his diary this week to clear the decks for a general election notice?

    • 270
      I B-P says:

      No, but he’s cleared his desk and organised his dairy because some bastard has stuck a demolition notice on his farmy farm as a preliminary measure to halt the spread of Mad Politician Disease.

  54. 136
    Miss Lashley says:

    Since Cameron is somewhat to the left of many new labour types of my acquaintance, one should surely reserve the appellation ‘lefty’ for old labour.

  55. 138
    Ian Austin MP and Broonarselickerinshit says:

    Twat Oborne and Tit Toynbee are ‘BROWN’- bread , and are not 2 of us

    Britain has never had it, so good

  56. 139
    • 150
      Anonymous says:

      Tessa Jowell and Ben Bradshaw amongst them.

      • 159
        Anonymous says:

        Is there nothing that odious woman will remain loyal to. First her husband now her party !

      • 173
        anonymous says:

        I thought Tessa was lining up a peerage from Cameron when she loses her seat at the election – I understood that she was likely to stay on in some role to do with the London Olympics irrespective of change of government and that she get’s on well with “Dave”

      • 184
        Plato says:

        Wasn’t Bradshaw a BBC chap? That would be most amusing if he swapped sides…

      • 318
        Ian Austin MP and Broonarselickerinshit says:

        Jowell and Bradshaw are BROWN bread.

        Britain has never had it, so good

    • 155
      Sarah says:

      Yet another reason not to vote Lib Dem.

    • 279
      Agent 99 says:

      This is so wrong. When it all falls apart the rats jump one sinking ship onto the next passing ship. What actually should happen is what happens in football. Their should be strict ‘transfer windows’ and once transferred then you remain for the season.

      Failing that just don’t vote Lib Dem which by the looks of things is just going to be ‘Labour Lout’ (mispelling intentional)

  57. 140
    Beautiful Day says:

    I’ve just got back from town centre canvassing for Conservative county council candidates in a constituency that’s been Nulab since 97. You usually expect some abuse and sarcy comments but there wasn’t one. It’s not going to be a landslide, it’s going to be a wipeout.

    • 157
      Labourwipeout says:

      Hey !

      • 182
        anonymous says:

        Agree – the sitting Labour MP in our constituency retires at the General Election. At last years local elections the Tories took control of the council decisively – the first time ever and the local election this time are expected to re-inforce that situation even more and I confidently expect that the General Election will return a Tory MP . This area is traditionally Labour to it’s bootstraps but everyone you talk to think firstly Brown’s a disaster and secondly Labour have failed dismally to address the present economic situation and that it’s worth probably giving Cameron a chance – if they can’t win here then Labour is well and truly fucked

      • 412
        Kronos says:

        we’ve got that idiot Quentin Davies as our MP I bet he feels pretty foolish right now!

    • 437
      Doctor Mick says:

      It’s certainly going to be very int-er-esting. Verry interesting indeed!

      But Broon will just dismiss it with a smirk and a comment behind his hand to the twat next to him.

    • 500
      NewGirl says:

      I can’t remeber the last time I heard anyone openly say they supported the government…They’re the Nasty party now!

    • 748
      Babar was a very poorly baby elephant says:

      I’m in a NuLab stronghold with 12,500 majority.
      Ex Unite lawyer as the MP … going to lose a few chums I suspect.
      It’s possibly going to be one of the few red spots left on the map.
      I can live with that and cannot wait for the result .. gonna be sitting up allnight and have champers and fireworks at the ready.
      “Things can only get better”

  58. 141
    Anonymous says:

    Gordon Brown is the worst and most hated Prime Minister in British history. The country will celebrate when this destructive parasite is removed from office.

  59. 142
    It's obvious... says:

    What will history make of Gordon?

    • 213
      Anon says:

      not a lot

    • 256
      T.B.Liar says:

      BLIAR 1998:-

      “A day like today is not a day for soundbites, we can leave those at home, but I feel the hand of history upon our shoulder with respect to this, I really do.”

      BRUIN 20.. ?:-

      “Now I’ve been summarily removed from office, I can feel the hands of the electorate around my windpipe, I really can”

    • 286
      Oink says:

      Consign him to that ineffable dustbin

    • 744
      Babar was a very poorly baby elephant says:

      Ask Gordo, he’s the history man.
      Or do I mean, he’s history, man ?
      As an unelected cretin, he needs no epitaph. Quite fitting for the leader (open to discussion) leader of a socialist administration.
      Any comments should be restricted to his psycholgical traits.

  60. 144
    Anonymous says:

    Brown should be in prison for what he has done to this country, not in No 10.

  61. 147
    Anonymous says:

    Anyone got the link to that research which showed that 91% of sex offenders, who voted in the last election, voted Labour?

  62. 148
    Superslomo of Diss says:

    After this week three-quarters of my family of four are now feeling a mite sorry for GB. Extrapolating this sentiment across the nation does this mean he’ll sweep back into power on the wave of a massive sympathy vote? If so, Gord help us!

    • 153
      Anonymous says:

      Three quarters of your family are thick-as-shit, naive dickheads. Just the sort of cretins that Brown thrives on.

      • 183
        Anonymous says:

        And you’re obviously a sad bastard who can’t take a joke. Nice to see that something you saw between your Pot Noodle and wank impassioned you that much. Twat.

      • 230
        Anonymous says:

        He got you well rattled though, didn’t he, you pathetic little twat.

      • 301
        Anonymous says:

        Put down your Daily Mail and go for a walk you stupid Hunt

    • 446
      Doctor Mick says:

      Boys, boys… place nicely.

  63. 154

    Well, some of us, even you Guido if I remember correctly ( though not with the same fondness as some of us) told them they’d miss Blair, AND that Brown was a big no-no!

    So yes, some of us ARE gloating a touch at Polly’s confessions.

    I’ve linked to you here Guido:

    http://keeptonyblairforpm.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/help-tony-yell-labour-defectors-to-the-lib-dems-the-return-of-the-blair/

    I’m waiting with bated breath for you to uncover the “defection” story, btw.

    • 312
      Robespierre says:

      The only support Bliar deserves is a Gallows.

      • 417
        Alien8n says:

        We’re cutting back on public expenditure.

        Will a lamppost suffice?

      • 552

        What is the punishment for war crimes is that still death? Unless of course we have a war crimes tribunal here. It would probably be 6 weeks probation under instruction from a Social Worker.

    • 351
      Bad Magic says:

      As much as I detest Crash Gordon, Tony Blair is by no means an innocent party they were both as disastrous for this country; Gordo just got left to catch the blow back.

      For everything we read about Gordon and how stuffed this country is, I think Blair is equally culpable. I certainly don’t miss Blair, and with the mess Brown is putting us in it should be a lesson for us all what can happen if we don’t put enough distance philosophically between our leaders when one makes up morally bankrupt and the next just makes us bankrupt.

      Between Tony the used car salesman and MacBust we’ve seen our country descend into one that endorses pre-emptive war, insane economic planning and a total disregard for the welfare of the nation in the favour of treading-water. I can only hope that whatever change comes we move away from the stagnating influence health and safety/politically correct culture and focus on flourishing as a nation and as individuals by just leaving us alone!

  64. 160
    Aethelred says:

    After the Gurkha debacle, it is clear that Brown has no honour or shame. Giving him a bottle of whisky, tax duly paid, and a revolver would probably merely result in the death of one of his underlings.

  65. 161
    • 287
      I B-P says:

      Oh, so Prescott has crawled back out of the woodwork.
      I wonder there’s no provision for comments under that particular item.

    • 292
      Fookin' meat pies says:

      Good a nice civil war brewing.
      Trouble is I do believe Brown was one of his biggest enemies when he was in office (or should that be when he was in his secretary) The man has no principles, he punches like a wimp and he is a total irritating igonorant fat puking twat. Always has been always will be.

      STEWARD!! Gin and tonic there’s a good man.

      • 308
        NewGirl says:

        you know he’d spit in it. bet he always did that to people he thought were tories

      • 528
        Doctor Mick says:

        No. What they did was to stir it with their knob.

        “Swallow that you posh git”

        That’s why I’m always kind to bar stewards.

      • 572
        Adam the Word King says:

        To be fair, whatever else you can say about him, Prescott can throw a punch

      • 828
        Bollocks to NuLabour says:

        Yeah, but it’s always easy to throw a punch when you know the friendly police are going to hold the guy down for you.

        The fu*kwit should have been arrested

  66. 162

    Folks let’s not forget the epetition calling for Brown to resign.

    Over 44,000 have now signed it:

    http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/please-go/

    http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/please-go/

  67. 163
    Anonymous says:

    Cameron gets boost in Yougov/ Sunday Times poll

    Conservative 49%
    Labour 22%
    Liberal Democrat 17%

    Liberal Democrat voters now prefer David Cameron to Gordon Brown by huge margin:
    Prefer David Cameron 64%
    Prefer Gordon Brown 22%

    • 177
      Anonymous says:

      poll-troll!

    • 187
      anonymous says:

      Believe it when published – I think this is an attempt to manipulate the betting odds. Stay clear. Oxygen Thief

    • 207
      Sunray says:

      Nobody believes you after the first time, so why do you do it? I really am curious.

    • 323
      Rexel 56 says:

      Mr Poll Troll… you really need to vary your % for the Tories now and again if you want to fool anyone. Mind you, throwing in the fabricated supplementary about Cameron is a nice touch.

  68. 165
    Flemingcrag says:

    Dear Polly has stepped of the Labour bandwagon for a minute to ponder this riddle;
    What is the difference between a headless Labour party and a headless chicken?
    There is still life left in a headless chicken…

    Now she knows this pearl of wisdom the lass can put New Labour behind her and get on with the rest of her life.

  69. 166
    By their fruit shall you know them says:

    Can I just remind everyone in lieu of John Prescot hawking himself round the media today “going on the offensive” to defend Brown,

    John Prescot = Misconduct in Public Office

    I rest my case

    • 178
      Anonymous says:

      John Prescott sexually abused one of his junior staff. He should be in prison, on probation, or performing community service.

      • 267
        Flemingcrag says:

        A misconduct in Public office (John Prescott) attacks a misconduct in Public office (David Blunkett) whist defending an incompetent in Public office (Gordon Brown)!!!
        Now where is the purer than pure Lord Mandelson when we need someone to clean up the Labour party?

      • 313
        Hoonhunter General says:

        Waving his chipolata without a valid knob license. The cowboy outfit must have been a totty puller.

        Car for the wife! She’s had her hair done.

      • 491
        Anonymous says:

        Other Public officials ie Police officers where recently jailed for shagging on duty.
        There is no difference between them and Prescott, Blunkett et all, fucking sleazebags , grotty fucking sleazebags !

    • 299
      Rt Hon Geoff Hoon from Iraq says:

      As it seems that this is a reminder day may I use this quick call to remind everyone that I still remain an absolutely total utter …””beep…….. ting

      Brrrrrrrrrrrrr

      (sorry your 3 minutes is up honey can you insert another trillion for the next 10 minutes)

    • 399
      Doctor Mick says:

      Remind me, how many properties does this socialist, ex-steward, own?

  70. 172
    gordon brown says:

    Before my death I expel the former Minister of the Interior, Charles Clarke MP, from the party and deprive him of all rights.

    Clarke, quite apart from his disloyalty to my person, has done immeasurable harm to the country and the whole nation by secret negotiations with the enemy, which he conducted without my knowledge and against my wishes.

  71. 181
    Anonymous says:

    Gordon is going to save us all from swineflu. Without him we are all dead.

    • 190
      anonymous says:

      Bloody Hell – stock up with bottled water;canned food; a shotgun and plenty of shells and head for the hills – this is the end if Gordon’s getting involved personally

      • 199

        Well Broon did say that Britain was the best equipped to deal with swine flu. As he said that about the economy as well, expect to see swine flu wipe out countless numbers of British citizens.

      • 235
        Anonymous says:

        Swineflu is so yesterday, so passe’. We’ve moved on from swineflu, dear.

        Didn’t last long, did it!? All that fuss about nothing.

    • 210
      Mr Christopher says:

      Gordon promised ‘To Save The World’ – and the G20 having fallen behind in the sinking vessel’s wake, and the Terrorologists losing even their red-top hold – who but Gordon Brown can save us all from schweinflu – that dire peril now being treated at home with aspirin.

      And to end on a laugh: New Labour is setting up an Emergency Schweinflu Hotline – which won’t, however, go live until ‘the autumn’ – when everyone will have long forgotten about porcine ailments. By then, the media-political establishment will be promoting some new iteration of global calamity, to distract us from the conjuror’s slieight-of-hand.

  72. 200
    Inspector Knacker of the Yard says:

    My only concern – based on the weird agenda at the Cheltenham conference – is that we are simply replacing NuLabour with BluLabour

    • 236
      Anonymous says:

      Sod off McBride.

    • 429
      Anonymous says:

      Agreed. The Tories have singularly failed to spot this crisis from afar and have just said ‘me too’ to labour policies – sharing the proceeds of growth, constraining the rate of spending growth, wtf’s that all about. FFS Cameron , grow a pair or prepare to be viewed as the Ted Heath for the 21st century!

      The Labour Party. Bankrupting Britain since 1929.

    • 464
      Doctor Mick says:

      Absolutely Brilliant!

  73. 201
    CryBaby says:

    What kind of person compares “himself” to Christ and Napoleon? Berlusconi has obviously got his head so far up his own backside, he can’t even see reality. Blimey – I can see the similarity to Gordon Brown. Egotistical maniacs!

    • 217
      PeakyLoft says:

      Quite!

    • 240
      Funambulist says:

      At least he hasn’t yet compared himself to John Lennon.

    • 371
      Doctor Mick says:

      What did Christ or Napolean ever do for satellite television? Nowt. At least Belusconi brings beautiful Italian donnae to the small screen.

      Woof, woof :)

  74. 206
    Springtime for Brown says:

    I’m loving every second of the Labour disintegration. Socialism is finished. Pity the’ve taken down the country with them. Oh well. I’ve had enough of paying taxes to support the idle and stupid. I’m off.

    • 303
      The 5th Horseman says:

      Springtime

      I hope so too but I heard the same statements of hope made in the late 70′s. The evil party spawned again and now look what has happened.

      This time please do not make the same mistake we did. Ensure this beast is truly dead and the carcass burnt to a cinder. Then and only then start to worry that one day this infestation may return.

    • 829
      Bollocks to NuLabour says:

      …In Downing Street; Winter for Britian and us….

  75. 208
    Any Colour but Brown says:

    Sadly, ZaNu Labour foresaw this eventuality in 1997 and banned the private possession of handguns. Whilst it has done nothing but embolden criminals, it does stop Gordie from, legally, having a gun in his hand.
    I believe that this is no bad thing – bad news, shortly before blowing a hole in his head could lead to a hail of lead heading towards some poor staffer, rather than just a Nokia.

    Perhaps someone could arrange a “State visit” to the Dignitas headquarters, where he could be given a tour of the facility and, even, take part in a demonstration of how wonderfully easy it is to leave this mortal coil with expert help. I’m sure the taxpayer would gladly pay his costs.

  76. 209
    BrownReignOverBritain says:

    The real damage labour did was let the tories get in next time with a carte blanche pass to do whatever they want for the entire term, just blaming labours disaster when anything goes wrong and taking credit when it doesn’t.

    ID cards get reintroduced because “labour so wrecked the economy that terrorists can thrive”. Taxes rise “because labour so wrecked the economy…” etc.

    Roll on ’97 – come on lets sing-along-a-new-labour: “things can only get better”.

    • 224
      Moley says:

      You might have a point.

      Look at what Blair and Brown have done with their enormous majority.

    • 231
      Alien8n says:

      So you think Labour should get in again and do even more damage to this country?

      The Tories have a lot of experience of dealing with a country threatened with terrorism. So I doubt they’ll use that as an excuse for having ID Cards.

      In fact I think the only good thing to come out of the last 12 years of Labour is Blair signing the Good Friday Agreement.

      • 238
        Anonymous says:

        Brown’s big achievement will be to gift about 30% of Labour’s vote to the BNP.

        Well done Gordon!

      • 306
        Anonymous says:

        ahh yes the British capitualation to the terrorists. Very good deal that.

      • 357
        Alien8n says:

        In what way did they capitulate? I don’t see a United Ireland. And if anything they got the short end of the stick as now Northern Ireland is under the effect rule of Westminster.

  77. 211
    Swiss Bob says:

    Woman on a Raft’s Mandy’s Diary The complete archive up to the latest entry 28th April.

  78. 219
  79. 221
    Anonymous says:

    Brown really is toast. He is struggling by day by day. I’m too young to remember Major’s last days – was it like that then too? I really can’t see Brown surviving in power without being forced to resign in the next three months.

    • 227
      G says:

      But who is there amongst Labour or any other party to replace him?
      He has been unable to ‘plan’ or lead or be a ” leader”, as he is responding to a constant stream of emergencies….

      • 241
        Anonymous says:

        Brown’s big achievement will be to gift about 30% of Labour’s vote to the B NP.

        Well done Gordo! There’s your footnote in history.

      • 243
        Anonymous says:

        G at 2.04pm

        Are you a Labour shill or are you just incredibly stupid?

        Do you really believe all that crap about Brown dealing with emergencies?

      • 259
        Alien8n says:

        You forget the guiding principle of leadership.

        Take a list of all the things you need to do.

        Choose the best person to do each job.

        Delegate.

        Only a truly incompetent leader cannot cope with “emergencies”.

        Just be thankful Brown wasn’t in charge in 1939, we’d all be speaking German and singing Uber Alles as the national anthem.

      • 274
        G says:

        On the important issues/emergencies he is leading very well – economy, swine flu etc.

        If you have an opinion, have a name too, anon – otherwise you are disqualified to comment on leadership

      • 361
        Alien8n says:

        Leading on the economy? He’s the one that fucked the economy.

        Leading on Swine Flu? It’s a non-issue. Europeans have a natural resistance to the H1N1 virus. It’s only an issue if it mutates into a more deadly strain such as the Spanish Flu of 1918.

        In Mexico it’s not even that bad, the number of deaths compared to the number of people who’ve had the virus is relatively small. The issue there is that it’s human to human communicable.

        One of the most important issues he has at the moment is restoring public confidence, something he is proving to be completely incapable of doing. He can’t even restore the confidence of his own party!

    • 249
      Springtime for Brown says:

      “I’m too young to remember Major’s last days – was it like that then too? ”

      Well, the BBC News, never able to resist a dig at the Tories, last night tried to draw the comparison with John Major’s final days but the truth is it was never like this. This really is spectacularly different.

      • 255
        Anonymous says:

        This is far, far worse than anything that happened under Major. What’s happening now under the lunatic Brown is unprrecedented in this country.

        A madman is in charge.

      • 260
        40 something says:

        No this is far far worse

      • 272
        anony60mous says:

        Major was nowhere near as bad as Brown and even Callaghan wasn’t either. Brown is pretty much unique in this regard. You probably have to go back as far as Chamberlain’s Premiership in the late 30′s to get a Prime Minister as bad or a national emergency of the degree we’re in to-day although to give Chamberlain his due an argument says that he was playing for time with Hitler to allow Great Britain to re-arm. Brown hasn’t even that excuse.He is simply incapable of leading this country any longer and no longer enjoys the confidence of the electorate or I suspect his Party. He simply HAS to go and the sooner the Cabinet tell him so the sooner Labour and the country can start to rebuild itself. If not then the electorate wil tell them decisively at the election and Cameron will become Prime Minister

      • 536

        Had this discussion many times this past couple of years – we reckoned that you needed to go back to Lord North, the feller who fucked up the yank revolution, to find a similarly incompetent PM; although he was nowhere near as bad as Gord – circumstances were against the guy. He was forced from office by a motion of no confidence, BTW.

        I think Brown is quite easily the worst PM ever.

        Polly hasn’t apologised by the way – some sad sacks over there are complaining about the kicking she’s taking,b ut if she doesnt’ apologies for backing the man, I think it’s fully deserved. All she has to do is say – “I’m sorry, I got it wrong, he’s a fucking idiot”.

    • 262
      nell says:

      I think it’s more likely that, like Anthony Eden after Suez, that he will be quietly sent abroad to recuperate after ‘a great illness’ and then when he comes back he will resign. He really is looking very haggard now if you look at recent photographs At least John Major held it together to the end in a more dignified manner.

    • 263
      simon r says:

      Of course, the main difference now is the way people get their news. Beforehand the stuff that was troubling Major would just come through the mainstream, now with blogs like this, with youtube and the ability to make instant comment on a news story via a paper’s website means that the grief is coming from all angles.

      Look at how the McBride story quickly grew from this site, look at how quickly the Dan Hannan speech took hold. The amount of comment and anger directed at this lot is far removed from the Major days when ‘disgusted of Tonbridge Wells’ would write in to the Telegraph.

      See how the ‘new media’ trips them up – Browns youtube videos, Sion Simons twitter comments, McBrides emails going astray.

      The pressure is building, roll on the Euro elections.

      • 405
        St George Weeps says:

        The difference between Major’s last days and this lot is that the media were happily repeating Labour’s lies in 1996/7 with the goal of causing Major’s defeat. Nothing changes, the press veer left and will always take the Lab side (or Dem in America).

        What’s new is the depths to which they have sunk and the absence of anything resembling investigative journalism.

    • 268
      Doctor Mick says:

      The truth is nobody, except a “caretaker” leader, is going to take over from Brown until after the election because Labour are doomed to lose.

    • 310
      Anonymous says:

      I’m too young to remember Major’s last days – was it like that then too?

      Sort off but not half as bad in Majors day. This is far worse than Major. This is the Winter of discontent without the winter all over again but 20 times worse. I suppose on the plus side Nu labour are still manging on a daily baisis to ‘bury the bodies’

      The program ‘A warning from history ‘ would be ideal for these Labour Hoons

  80. 245
    Moley says:

    Can I clarify something. ?

    In this country the Government is elected by the people and the Civil Service follows the Government’s instructions.

    Anyone who does not like what has been done by this Government needs to understand that the blame lies with the stupid twats who voted it in, (and that means you in a lot of cases); don’t blame the civil service.

    Do you think we like being forced to carry out ridiculous orders?

    • 254
      Anonymous says:

      Don’t just moan. Tell us more. Dish the dirt on Brown and co.

    • 295
      Anonymous says:

      Does anyone blame the civil service? I think most people feel sorry for them.

    • 302
      I B-P says:

      Resign then.

    • 305
      Can't Kukri, Won't Kukri says:

      With your jobs for life, your higher-than-private-sector salaries and your platinum-plated pensions, I think you like doing whatever will keep you in your jobs. If that means sucking up to potential future employers by knifing your present ones once they’re already dead in the water, then that’s what you’ll do.
      Whisper “Money Purchase Pension” to a civil servant and watch him shit himself.

      • 316
        Moley says:

        Fair comment on pensions.
        The incoming government may find it is forced to act by financial constraints.
        Don’t agree with the rest. Some of us do understand the meaning of integrity.

      • 317
        oops says:

        mmm I was only following orders,heard that on a Discovery channel documentry about Hitler and co.

      • 325
        Moley says:

        There is a quantum difference between the day to day running of a Department, and illegal orders.
        The comparison is inappropriate.

    • 489
      Anonymous says:

      Yes I think Adolf Eichman tried the same defence.

      You are but a bleating Government DRONE !

  81. 248
    Anonymous says:

    To 173

    ‘Property Taxes’ ultimately ARE taxes on working. If two people are in the same job and on the same salary, why should the one who squanders their earnings away irresponsibly be the one to pay less tax, while the sensible one has to pay for the old age pensions and old age health care of both??? If I work hard, save hard (instead of frittering my hard earned cash away on expensive holidays, hair cuts and depreciation prone gear like TVs, computers and motor cars) and go to the effort of maintaining my hard earned house(s) against physical deterioration, I do not expect to be penalised at any point(s)by your jealous and immoral ‘property’ taxes.

  82. 251
    Anonymous says:

    I remember the last months and years of the Major and the Callaghan governments. They were nowhere near as chaotic and crazy as what is happening now under Brown.

    Brown is plumbing new depths of incompetence, dishonesty, chaos, and sheer madness.

    No previous Prime Minister was anywhere near as hated and despised as Brown either.

    • 271
      Mr Christopher says:

      Surely, Blair was the true Father of Lies, the ‘whiter than white’ religiomaniac, who set up the regime of crookedness, and bailed out just before the balloon went up, leaving the ‘Prudent Chancellor’ to drown in a decomposing muddle of lies, war, and corruption.

      • 284
        Anon says:

        Hypocritical Blair was nowhere near ‘purer than pure’. In fact TB was a lot less so than people with enough honesty to admit that no mortal is capable of such a standard. Still, one must acknowledge this much. All credit to him for fooling the demented electorate who ‘have to live in hope’. Knaves get their comeuppance but the fools get theirs’ first and rightly so.

      • 293
        G says:

        I agree Mr Christopher!

      • 315
        NewGirl says:

        yep, he just had a better sense of self preservation ….got out whilst he could still fool a few people a bit of the time…the sickening thing is that Brown has so cocked up, some people will forget the rot set in years back, and Blair was the master…
        Remember Dolly first time round? Cash for questions? Mandy and his shennanigans? That appalling fat creep Irvine and his wallpaper? Prescott and the croquet?
        Not to mention the odd illegal war, cover up and destruction of the economy….

    • 297
      Anon says:

      How many Prime Ministers left or were ejected from office with such a booming economy as the one Major bequeathed to TB and NokiaGBH?

      • 384
        Rob says:

        Exactly – The economy was booming under Major’s government when it lost in 97 – the difference being that apart from a few minor actors with their fingers in someone elses till (not the taxpayers) The MSM, Blair and Brown painted them as totally corrupt which with hindsight was grossly untrue.
        The fact, after 12 years of this shower, that the lies and falsehoods levelled at the tories, have actually metamorphosed into reality under a labour government is in my humble opinion poetic justice.
        Brown and his entourage do not deserve a scintilla of pity they deserve our utter contempt for betraying their party,themselves and most of all the people of this Country.

    • 342
      Tony says:

      Bless you, my son.

    • 350
      Hacked_off says:

      indeed.

      Major may have been ridculed but the last budget under him did what was right for the country rather that try and boost party popularity.

      This lot are only interested in ‘doing the right thing’ for themselves, every one else can go fuck themselves.

  83. 253
    A pedantic w***er says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/8030416.stm

    Euthanasia doctor held at airport. Worried he was on his was to Downing Street?

  84. 257
    Dirty Rat says:

    Whisky and a revolver?

    He is more at home with amyl nitrite and the porridge gun.

  85. 258
    Anon says:

    Further to my 239 post
    ‘Property taxes’ just encourage fecklessness and failure to provide for the future, even among those who are employed, to say nothing of the jobless and pathologically jealous.

  86. 273
    Anon says:

    I am entitled to provide both for my own personal and my own genetic futures, by my own hard work and prudence, without being financially penalised for doing so, under the guise of ‘property taxes’ whilst someone on the same income who squanders it all pays less or no tax, and then lives of what I have earned.
    Tell me that I am not so entitled and I will either turn into yet another feckless leech myself, or move myself and my earnings somewhere like Canada, Australia or Monte Carlo and let these more moral countries have the benefit of my services and prudence.

  87. 289
    Anonymous says:

    Slightly O/T. I have heard repeated mention today of Egypt ordering the slaughter of pigs. Egypt is a muslim country with a substantial Coptic Christian community. It is that Coptic community which keep pigs. There is no criticism of the measure in the BBC reporting, and I feel certain that this slaughter may have more to do with racist Muslims in Egypt attacking a Christian minority under the guise of public health. The BBC needs to objectively report this, and ask the question of Egypt whether and how much compensation is being paid. Further, is the compensation actually being paid.

    • 433
      Funambulist says:

      Yes, I heard that about every last pig in Egypt being slaughtered, despite the govt there being told there is no health risk and no reported cases of swine fever. Hope it’s not a warm-up for slaughtering the last remaining Christian Coptics.

  88. 291
    Half eyed Scottish idiot says:

    Twaddle thinks that the only thing wrong is the leader. Find another leader and everything will be alright.

    It was the same in Soviet Russia . Chuck the leader out, its all his fault. Nothing wrong with the system of course.

    Wake up Twaddle, SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK!!

  89. 294
    Jackanory says:

    Brown has only one question:

    http://jackanory.synthasite.com

  90. 298
    C A Duffy says:

    Waiting for Gordo [Laureat Oder, 2009]

    You now do know
    It’s time to go.
    The worm has turned
    And you’ll be burned.
    Labour faces a torrid rout
    So .. just shut the door on the way out.

  91. 300
    Half eyed Scottish idiot says:

    I’d send him a revolver but he’s so useless he’d probably miss

  92. 309
    Andy says:

    Polly needs to blow her brains out too. That’s if there are any to blow out of course. She is as guilty as Brown. Ought to hang together.

    • 445
      Anonymous says:

      a la Mussolini and companion ?

      • 505
        Mr Christopher says:

        There has been so much obvious criminality among New Labour ministers, that who could blame the crowd for wanting to hang them out to dry with their tax-payer funded Clara Petacci porn videos.

        When such grave crimes as Conspiracy to Wage Aggressive War have been committed – judged to be a capital crime at Nuremberg – one may wonder why not a single charge of fraud, theft, embezzlement, criminal libel, Misconduct in Public Office and treason has ever been brought against a New Labour minister.

        The answer is simple: if all the guilty were to be arrested there would be no ministers left, except Gordon brown himself, who has never at any time been aware of any wrong doing by any of his associates.

  93. 314
    Fillpot says:

    WHY DOESN’T BROWN JUST FUCK OFF AND DIE?

  94. 320
    Anonymous says:

    Just show him to the door on general election day, I’m sure he will get the message. (the door to the dole office, not No 10.)

  95. 324
    Norfolk Political Anorak says:

    Brown hasn’t got’ the balls’ to commit suicide. He is a coward through and through. He thinks about himself first thing in the morning (although thank goodness I am not there to witness this) and last thing at night.
    I can think of a million people who would do the job for him.
    Brown the game is up. Leave with dignity (if you can) and let us all get back to this great country of ours or what is left of Great Britain. God Save the Queen.

    • 340
      anon says:

      I suggest Polly T should retire to her villa in Italy. Pity the poor Italians!!!!
      A Champagne Socialist if ever there was one. The women has been twittering for years. Has she got a Husband?

  96. 326
    Anonymous says:

    There’d be no point in giving Brown a gun he’d only miss!

  97. 328
    Princess PolyTwaddle, irrelevance and Grouniad Hack, patronising from her ivory tower, says:

    I am always right.

    I am never wrong.

    The Glorious and Beloved Leader is the One for me.

    The way he HOLDS my helm and STEERS me to noo and ever more financially secure waters.

    The BREADTH of his vision (thing).

    The VIGOUR of his THRUSTING delivery.

    The DEPTH of his understadning.

    The STAYING POWER of his ministrations.

    Oh . . OH! . . . OHHHH!!!! . . NO – don’t help me! . . let me swoon into a glorious oblivion.

  98. 329
    The Rt. Dishonourable Mr Prezza of Scott, - a NooBoringLiar Illumination, - says:


    Didya see me on’t telly wiv that bird wiv big tits? Didya? Didya?

    Phwoorrr!!

    Anyways – Grodorn is Ok – so shutya face you! Init!

    Vote LieBore for a secure future – hav I got that roit?

    • 331
      The Rt. Dishonourable Mr Prezza of Scott, - a NooBoringLiar Illumination, - says:


      and added -

      Got any sandwiches? . . . pies? . . . crisps? . . . doughnuts . .. ?

  99. 330
    Dave says:

    It was Margaret Thatchers deregulation and free-market approach to economics which, on being continued by new labour led to Britain feeling some of the worst affects of the economic crisis

    The reason we were so badly hit by this crisis was because Labour became too right-wing in its economic policies in an attempt to win over the centre ground and the power elite in the city

    A return to Thatcher? No thanks. A return to some moralistic and fair moderate-left-wing politics is what this country needs!

    • 354
      Twizzle says:

      Bye, Dave, I’m off. Anywhere will do. Hope you enjoy living in penuary the rest of your life.

    • 366
      Doctor Mick says:

      A return to wishy-washy no balls economics. It never ceases to amaze me that people, stupid people, blame the woman who pulled Britain back from the precipice for all the ills of teh present day.

      • 372
        Alien8n says:

        Especially as most of the deregulation that actually caused this mess is a result of Labour setting up the FSA.

        The rest was actually under Major, after Thatcher left power.

      • 380
        Can't Kukri, Won't Kukri says:

        “A return to some moralistic and fair moderate-left-wing politics”

        A triple oxymoron. Any advance?

    • 387
      goodbye and good luck says:

      You see Dave, that’s why you’re all beyond help. You are still blaming Thatcher for your problems after 12 years of the socialist dream.

    • 391
      Anonymous says:

      Sorry Dave, the culprit was and still is,’The One Eyed’. He spent all the fukin’ money.

    • 397
      Rob says:

      The free markets did not cause this crisis dave your Chancellor did.
      Brown set up the fsa, kept interest rates artificially low encouraging a debt fueled boom to end all debt fuelled booms and creating in effect a housing price pyramid scheme.
      Ask yourself honestly would Thatcher have done that?
      It may be a bitter pill to swallow but a left wing socialist agenda got us into this mess and more of the same will finish us all.

      • 400
        Alien8n says:

        Absolutely not. A lot of people criticise Thatcher’s policies, but they worked. It’s one of the reasons I remember what I was told about mortgages. When buying a house plan for high interest rates. If you can’t afford to repay 15% then expect to lose your house.

        That’s another thing Brown did. Everyone who bought houses prior to 1997 bought with endowment policies. The problem is endowment policies only work with high interest rates. By keeping credit cheap and interest rates low he fuelled not only spiralling housing inflation but also the massive shortfall in the endowment policies held by millions.

      • 404
        Roberto says:

        Absolutely! I have a reduced bank account that proves it.

      • 485
        Anonymous says:

        Brown would snuff out the Four seasons if he could. Ebb and flow of the markets is a necessity .

    • 465
      Dave says:

      There is no way this labour government can be described as socialist
      The point is that right-wing de-regulation let the banks and the housing market go all out of control. And I’ll be clear, I absolutely blame Gordon Brown for this as he failed to adress it.

      Had we had a Labour government that had not moved so far to the right and not been so afraid to regulate properly we could have lessened the extent to which the economic crisis has hit our country.

      A tory might argue that although the poor are now being hardest hit and thousands of homes are being repossesed, at least during the good times the rich got richer and after all GDP going up is all that matters……

      • 531
        pigs in space says:

        In a (proper) market economy interest rates would float and reach an equilibrium when they match the total amount of money people would like to borrow with the total amount people are prepared to lend.
        In today’s pseudo-market economy interest rates are set not by the market, but by the central bank. If they set them too low, which they did, then borrowers will want to borrow more, savers will want to save less. This ultra-loose monetary policy led to speculation on an ever increasing property price bubble.
        It wasn’t a failure of a free market, but a massively distorted fake market in credit.

      • 532
        uk Fred says:

        Dave, you need to read von Mises and get an understanding of what socialism really is. Why do you think that many ZaNu Lie Baah are so frightened of the BNP? BNP’s national socialism is so close to ZaNu Lie Baah’s control freakery that there is little to choose between them.

      • 565
        Bad Magic says:

        “There is no way this labour government can be described as socialist” really? When the government is so large and bloated that in can bury us all in debt on a whim, buy up private assets and control the money supply and interest rates just what the hell is it, other than socialist? The whole concept of heavy taxation and big government are not conducive to a free society, because it implies that the state owns part of your labour, and your time, and with that being the case we do not belong to ourselves.

        The only argument I have heard for de-regulation caused all this was some weak sentence produced on BBC News in an article that also – with a straight face – declared quantitative easing would solve all the problems despite not working in Zimbabwe or Japan, on the basis that ‘well, it can’t really go that bad… can it?’ the whole idea that the government thinks it has to intervene with the economy is the mistake! The free market, not that we really have had one for a long time with the government forcing one format of money only upon us, has not been allowed to operate. But when economies have recovered from depressions/recessions it wasn’t the government but the private sector that was to thank.

        The government’s intrusions on the free market have scuppered the economy and further hindered any possible recovery, because of the terrible downward burden of a cumbersome government and its bureaucracy.

        An interesting pdf is a free book by Murray Rothbard called What Has Government Done to Our Money, a great description of free markets and the real concept of money.

      • 718
        Babar was a very poorly baby elephant says:

        Dave,
        You are scary as well as deluded, my friend.
        I hope this interpretation is simply a wind up rather than your honest evaluation of what is required and how we all ended up in this mess.
        Sorry, your reference to morals comes a little late – your party allowed an idiot to lead the charge, an idiot with no morals at all as far as I can see.
        Nobody in your party attempted to stop him, or even stand against him.
        You ushered him into power. He is a disaster for our nation and I hope a long period of reflection in the political wilderness may help Labour repent.
        Did you ALL fall for that no more boom and bust line ?

  100. 333
    Bob Maris says:

    I am not sure that “sound money ” and “fiscal conservatism” are the answers as such, although they might be a good idea in general terms.

    But is Italy a basket case? Is France worse off than us? Is Denmark a living hell? Is the USA less or more wealthy having piled up a huge deficit? None of them have really followed conservative finance. And in any case Thatcher did NOT cut back state expenditure.

    I think really that, as in life, the first question to ask is: how are we going to make a living? Without a job there is no income. Whether or not you have a job is much more important than whether you owe £20,000 on your credit card or not. We need to look at what sort of economy we are trying to develop. I think a lot of us were uneasy about the over-reliance on financial services. Personally I favour much more investment in the green economy as Denmark has done. We need to harness wind, wave, tidal and hydro energy. We need to develop the clean coal technology. All that will deliver a tremendous boost to our economy.

    Another area I think needs a lot more attention is the science-technology link. The UK probably has one of the highest patents-population ratios in the world. We need to do more to ensure that the commercial application of our scientific ideas takes place in this country.

    Otherwise it’s a lot about ensuring we have a good business environment here. We need lower income tax for everyone. Not a lower tax take overall but tax needs to be restructured.

    • 368
      Stan says:

      Like building a load of state subsidised windmills is going to save us from bankruptcy. It’s a pity they can’t harness the windy bullshit coming out of the mouth of liberal green bearded environmentalist parasites. Global warming blah blah.

    • 419
      Cassandra King says:

      The so called ‘green technologies’ are an expensive disaster waiting to happen, wind has not and will never deliver cheap energy, tidal costs are too high to be cost effective and hydro is no good for the UK.
      We already have clean coal in our modern coal fired power stations when you discount ‘carbon capture’ because CO2 is a harmless trace gas that is essential to the planets plant life, CO2 emissions from human activity are tiny and insignificant so expending billions trying to capture a harmless trace gas is simply stupid and useless.
      To create a booming economy the ingredients are simple, a low tax enviroment where people are rewarded for working hard.
      The production of ample cheap energy by using fossil fuels and nuclear, the bigger the better.
      Get the dead hand of EU/government off the backs of our industries and wealth creators.

      The so called green energies are a massive con trick they will lead to rationing and expensive home bills and they will suck up all available research cash for no benefit other than chasing rainbows and wasting time.
      The green jobs boom promised in California has been a massive lie, the greenies fiddled the cost benefit figures and lied to the elected government and now California pays the price.
      We would have to errect tens of thousands of useless and costly windmills AND the entire grid would have to be upgraded yet they would not be able to produce reliable power without constant 100% base load back up from conventional plants, all those billions invested for no reason and wasted on centuries old technology that doesnt work as advertised.

      I urge you to take a look at the real statistics of the wind industry and you will be shocked and disgusted at the true picture.
      Cheap coal and nuclear now and invest in fusion for the future.

      • 674
        Babar was a very poorly baby elephant says:

        Cassandra,
        Sense at last, AMEN.
        A contrick indeed – and I, for one, hope that Cameron’s taking on the baton of climate change was only panderring to (perceived) public opinion.
        At best its a drag to growth, at worst a disaster for us all.
        Personally I suspect a convenient ruse to raise tax at will.
        Carbon follows temperature change, not the other way around, and temperature changes are part of a normal cycle.
        Simples.

      • 710
        Susie says:

        Indeed.

        Suggested reading: David McKay’s book: Sustainable Energy — without the hot air.

        http://www.withouthotair.com/

        We’ve had a (private) wind turbine on the opposite hill for the last 6 months. I look at the eyesore most days (we don’t have much choice). During January when the temperatures never rose above zero centigrade for a week, it was motionless, not producing power, nada nlthough you could still see the bloody thing glinting in the winter sunshine. On the coldest days for over 13 years it was about as useful as tits on a bull.

        Until last week that it, I looked out and it was gone. When I drove past the house it was lying on the ground so it’s either failed to generate leccy as promised, or there’s something mechanically wrong with the thing — after just 6 months. Even the proposed 1,000 turbine off-shore wind farms are projected _at best_ to produce half the energy a modern nuclear power station the size of a shopping mall does.

      • 711
        Susie says:

        Indeed.

        Suggested reading: David McKay’s book: Sustainable Energy — without the hot air.

        http://www.withouthotair.com/

        We’ve had a (private) wind turbine on the opposite hill for the last 6 months. I look at the eyesore most days (we don’t have much choice). During January when the temperatures never rose above zero centigrade for a week, it was motionless, not producing power, nada although you could still see the bloody thing glinting in the winter sunshine. On the coldest days for over 13 years it was about as useful as tits on a bull.

        Until last week that it, I looked out and it was gone. When I drove past the house it was lying on the ground so it’s either failed to generate leccy as promised, or there’s something mechanically wrong with the thing — after just 6 months. Even the proposed 1,000 turbine off-shore wind farms are projected _at best_ to produce half the energy a modern nuclear power station the size of a shopping mall does.

    • 458
      Twizzle says:

      I am not sure that “sound money ” and “fiscal conservatism” are the answers..

      So, you’re a fan of unsound money and fiscal profligacy.

      We’ve had 12 years of it. Been a resounding success, don’t you think? Record personal and corporate bankruptcies, a housing crash the likes of which no one living has ever seen, a public sector borrowing requirement meaning the government will be borrowing in 2 years more than the UK has borrowed IN TOTAL over the last 300 years. Oh, and record home repossessions that will escalate remorsely over the coming years.

      I just can’t wait for 12 more years of unsound money and fiscal profligacy.

  101. 336
    Romeo says:

    Polly (spit on the floor) Toynbee. That hypocritical left-wing bastard who owns a villa in Italy – who gives a stuff what she says? Toynbee has always blown one way or the other according to what gets the most publicity, she is simply an ugly cow who deserves Brown and NL because not long ago she was singing his praises. Toynbee the biggest dealer in hypocrisy in Britain.

  102. 337
    Fillpot says:

    Very instructive, via Obo’s blog, worth 10 minutes of your time.

    I’m sold. We need a republic to replace this stinking, corrupt oligarchy, which is due to be replaced only by another stinking, corrupt oligarchy, but with blue rosettes and not red.

    Dump Brenda and her dysfunctional family — they can fuck off back to Germany. What use is she? A tourist attraction?

    We need a genuine revolution in Britain; or rather, England, because the Scots and the Welsh and the N. Irish have allowed themselves to be turned into nothing but parasites on the English body politic.

    How to implement it without violence? I’ve no idea. Maybe someone out there has one.

    • 362
      Doctor Mick says:

      Fillpot? Pol Pot more likely. You bloody looney.

    • 363
      Anonymous says:

      We don’t need a revolution. We need a Tory government to clear up the mess Labour has made.

      Twas ever thus.

    • 452
      Grytpype-thynne says:

      I think you would be happier on a BNP website or, preferably, an Asylum

    • 571
      Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

      Agree, 328 – it was an interesting video.

      However it failed completely to deal with the uncomfortable truth that the USA has only ever been ruled by oligarchs since WW2. Their terms of office were limited by regular elections, sure, but those elections reflect another system that the video rejects – democracy.

      How come the feted republic under the law failed utterly to control the lunacies visited on the American people by Bush et al? They got Nixon in the end, certainly, but that was due more to one newspaper proprietor, one editor, two journalists and one informant. They were able to appeal to the law to bring him down, but the law itself was powerless.

      You propose to dismiss HM the Queen and her successors. Please think carefully about this.

      If we had been a republic during the last 20 years our presidents would have been Thatcher followed by Bliar. Would you really want this? Bliar poncing about the world stage as head of state of the UK?

      Also, our armed forces swear allegiance to Her Majesty. That guarantees that they are above politics. Could you be so sure that soldiers loyal to Pres Bliar would not be used for party ends? I can’t, and the thought shakes me.

      The privilege that goes with membership of the royal family makes many of us uncomfortable, but to my mind it is a price worth paying.

      • 618
        Fillpot says:

        Good points, RKP, but there is something seriously wrong with an elected dictatorship such as we have at the moment — they just do whatever they like for five years, then come cringing to the electorate for a couple of months pretending to be on our side. I found a card on my doormat once from a canvasser who had apparently come “to seek my views”. My vote, more like it.

        I feel that (1) the government should live in perpetual fear of the people, and not the other way round, and that (2) the government should not be above the law. At least the Americans have a constitution which guarantees freedom of speech, the bedrock of all freedom, and they’re not afraid to invoke that when the government tries to limit their powers of expression. Here, now, you can be jailed for saying something the authorities don’t approve of, which is something I never thought I’d see in my lifetime.

        An oligarchy such as described in the video is never going to fear the people, which seems to leave a republic as the only option. Under such a system Blair would never have got away with his outrageous and unconstitutional conduct; for he’d have known he’d have been up before the Supreme Court to explain his actions.

        All systems are questionable. Human beings, for 99% of their history, have lived in small tribal groups where such questions do not arise. It is only since the rise of agriculture that the division of labour, and hence the emergence of a political class, has been possible. We obviously haven’t solved that problem yet!

  103. 338
    Anonymous says:

    Polly Toynbee is a stupid cow who will jump on any passing bandwagon if it gets her publicity.

    • 344
      Anonymous says:

      She failed her 11+ – that’s all I need to know, really.

    • 805
      Anon says:

      Polly Toynbee apologised to me once – for bad mouthing, actually being totally discriminatory and offensive to disabled people – it went something like – sorry about the slip,won’t do it again but see my columns they’re not unkind – no apolgy to speak of – the woman is hideous

  104. 348
    anon says:

    Is there any chance of Gordon Brown loosing his seat at the next General Election? Perhaps Joanna L could stand against him. What justice. What bliss..pure bliss.

    • 370
      Anonymous says:

      From what I can see, the majority of people voting in his constituency would vote labour even if Brown cut off their legs with a rusty razor blade and then pissed on their stumps.
      In 2005 Brown got 58.1% of the vote, the SNP was 2nd with just 14.5%.
      Even Sean Connery standing against him wouldn’t sway those people into voting against Brown.
      Besides which, if it did look like he’d be in danger of losing, he’d just rig the vote (or pull it altogether). Democracy never was his strong point.

      So, don’t get too excited; he’ll be forced to make a speech saying that he’s lost the premiership, but he’ll put that down to the “global” situation, and he’ll still bang on about his own vote proving that everyone on the planet still thinks he’s always been doing his job well.

      Even when he loses his job as PM, and his party gets annihilated, he still won’t admit that anything was his fault, it’ll still all be America’s fault.

      There’s no chance of him admitting he’s ever made any mistakes, or admitting that anyone thinks he’s a fucking useless piece of shit; it’ll always be someone else’s fault. Sociopaths are like that; they can never put themselves in someone else’s shoes, and they think that their own shoes are made of solid platinum.

      Like the terminator, you can’t reason with them, they can’t be bargained with, they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you [or they] are dead.

      • 373
        Anonymous says:

        “Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead”

        wise words; Brown is, without doubt, a personification of the terminator.

      • 398
        Anonymous says:

        Absolutely right, talk of his departure is premature. In his deluded state he will remain in the bunker and take the party down with him while he waits for Steiner to break through. Steiner has fucked off though.

      • 521
        Anonymous says:

        Brown is a sociopath. A narcissistic personality disorder who is doing untold damage to this country while everyone just stands by and watches.

        What a pathetic bunch the British are.

      • 537
        uk Fred says:

        He’s certainly terminated prosperity in this country.

  105. 355
  106. 360
    The Aged P says:

    DT says some Labour MPs splitting to LibDems – trouble is the hack saying it is the office boy Jasper Gerard…the DT is really going down hill

    http://theagedp.blogspot.com/2009/05/sucking-soul-out-of-daily-telegraph.html

    • 365
      Anonymous says:

      Bradshaw and Jowell have both met Clegg in secret, with a view to defecting, as have several others.

      Old SDP’er

    • 374
      Greychatter says:

      On the eve of the 1997 elections, Paddy Ashdown had meeting with Tony Blair about the Lib/Dems joining with Labour.

      Tony approved and so did Cherie – but John Prescott and Gordon Brown put a stop to the affair.

      Quote from Paddy Ashdown on the Andrew Marr Show a couple of weeks ago.

  107. 369
    anon says:

    Where is Madelson when Brown needs him? He got HIS LORDSHIP and has buggered off!!!!!!

  108. 377
    Anonymous says:

    I thought Gordon was Polly’s Viking. Remember that? Remember when she was ensconced in her Tuscan villa writing borderline soft-porn about Gordon the Profligate Viking who must spend! spend! spend! in the name of social equality and the Marxist revolution?

    There’s none so fickle as Polly the Champagne Socialist.

    • 517
      Anonymous says:

      Didn’t she realise Gordon was gay? He arranged a sham marriage with a hired public relations pro after he was told it was the only way he would get Blair’s job.

      • 538
        Anonymous says:

        He’s not gay. To be gay one must first be human and Gordon fails on that account. Like Adam Sutler in the comic book of V for Vendetta, Gordon is asexual because he believes that he’s better than us mere mortals and that to engage in anything as sordid as sexual intercourse would be beneath him. It would sully him.

      • 651
        Babar was a very poorly baby elephant says:

        Ah yes, a Whiff of Lavender.
        The PR lady, a ZaNuLabour stalwart, gets what she wants in return for the unseemly “arrangement”.

  109. 386
    TraceyTemplesExBoyfriend says:

    All this squabbling has roused me from lazing away my days doing nothing to ask a serious question: anyone for croquet?

  110. 388
    Jackanory says:

    Now Pieman Prescott is getting in on the act!

    http://jackanory.synthasite.com

  111. 403
    Michael says:

    Read Cohen in Standpoint.

    He has completely pissed on Brown et al.

  112. 406
    Peaceful Warrior says:

    People, people……why do you want to get rid of Comrade Brown? Observe the lessons of history. Maggie Thatcher would have lost her next election so the Tories ditched her, selected Major who went on to win a very respectable majority. The last thing the country needs is Brown to go now and for some NuLab clone of Blair (Milliband??) to take over, turn things around and seize victory from the jaws of defeat. Lets face it Cameron, is not a particularly strong contender without Brown’s massive unpopularity. No lets keep Brown there until the next election so everyone is reminded daily of how much NuLab has damaged this country.

    • 409
      Alien8n says:

      To be fair the rest of Labour is currently so tainted by sleaze that it doesn’t matter who’s in charge. About the only way Labour could win the next election is to offer Desmond Tutu British citizenship and elect him leader of the Labour party.

      • 422
        Desmond TuTu says:

        fuckin leave me out mate, no chance

      • 426
        Lord Mandelbaum of Spin-Cash says:

        Now don’t be rude about my old friend Tutu.he’s lovely and on the island with me with a few Russains who are trying him out…

      • 457
        Anonymous says:

        To be honest, I think Sandy Toksvig would be the best choice for NuLab in these difficult times. She’s a LibDumb though isn’t she?

    • 430
      Doctor Mick says:

      We want rid of him because he is a looney. The country is in a right mess but it will be even worse if he continues in office.

      Self preservation is the priority not the nation’s economy. He doesn’t know what he’s doing and, if he does, then he’s a malicious ba­stard.

    • 650
      Babar was a very poorly baby elephant says:

      I think you may be right.
      A change right now be the worst rather than best thing.
      And am convinced that he is a malicious bastard.
      15+ years ago I personally witnessed Brown’s behaviour … he was shaddow chancellor at the time.
      Those 40 mins or so of observation convinced me that this was one of the most arrogant , ill-mannered humans that I have ever encountered.
      I’ve detested the man ever since.
      If his colleagues couldn’t come to a similar conclusion over hours/days/weeks or many years then their lack of judgement ought to mean none of them ought to ever hold any senior office, let alone that of an MP.

  113. 413
    Half eyed Scottish idiot says:

    No trolls out today?

  114. 418
    It all started in America you bastards! says:

    We should give McSnot a machine gun not a revolver, I want to make sure the skirt wearing tartan one eyed twat doesn’t fuck up.

    • 424
      Heads on poles says:

      As it is something that is necessary *and* wanted by the general public, he couldn’t manage it.

      Nuke him from orbit – it’s the only way to be sure – unless he goes down with McBride flu…

    • 425
      Sir Desmond Utter-Twatt says:

      maybe the whole cabinet should play russian roulette with a fully loaded Gatlin gun….??

  115. 434
    Gooey Blob says:

    Let’s be realistic, it is already too late and there is nobody within Labour who could replace him even if it were not. Purnell or Harriet Harm-men would be an even bigger disaster. Miliband had his chance last Autumn and blew it, as did everybody else. Meanwhile, those usual suspects who wish to replace Brown at all costs are turning Labour into an unelectable rabble in much the same way the malcontents did to Major in the nineties.

    The government has become a joke.

    • 439
      Lord Mandelbaum of Spin-Cash says:

      Never count me out…I will be the first noble prime mentalist since the 19th century…

      • 447
        Doctor Mick says:

        I’m sorry GayLord but the country will never accept as po­of as Prime Minister anymore than they’d have a baldie.

      • 450
        eye-eye says:

        Or as my GP once said ( to not about) me ” I could never trust a man who could stick his cock up another man’s arse”

      • 459
        Lord Mandelbaum of Spin-Cash says:

        My mother told me that as well….

      • 461
        Doctor Mick says:

        That’s why I don’t trust “thick as thieves”. He keeps sending me these vile emails…

      • 475
        Lord Mandelbaum of Spin-Cash says:

        I fink “thick as thieves” is a friend of mine…

      • 540
        Doctor Mick says:

        You can have him m’Lud.

        (If you haven’t already *snigger*)

      • 544
        Doctor Mick says:

        Doctor Mick says:
        Your comment is awaiting moderation.
        May 2, 2009 at 8:13 pm

        You can have him m’Lud.

        (If you haven’t already *sni­gger*)

        OK this one I understand… sni­gger contains the “n” word and so is filtered out. Fair enough.

    • 524
      Mandy says:

      Thick as thieves really? The thicker the better, in my experience.

      • 542
        Doctor Mick says:

        Well you can’t get much thicker than Thick as Thieves.

        He is that anachronism, the Blog Idiot.

      • 584
        thick as thieves says:

        I’m sorry to break into your gayfest guys, but the reason so many of doctor micks posts are deleted is because he is a racists c’unt and Guido has no wish to be associated with him because he is a racist nonce.
        what is it with you zionist white supremacists?
        why do you like killing Palestinian children Mick?
        oh and as God’s people are the peacemakers that means you and your fellow zionsit war criminals are, like, totally fucked.

      • 653
        Doctor Mick says:

        Guido has no wish to be associated with him because he is a racist nonce.

        I don’t think Guido is either of those things. You need to heed what you say young fella. Also I would check your blood pressure.

    • 855
      thick as thieves says:

      you are the child killer apologist nonce mick.
      that is your sin, don’t try to palm it off on other people.
      by typing your racist filth you have the blood of Palestinan children on your hands.
      you can talk all you like you fucking satanist, but it will make no difference.
      you’re going to hell mick.
      it’s a done deal.

  116. 436
    Ye Loony Lofte-Lagger of Olde London Towne, a Mutt Masquerading as Monetary Maestro, says:



    Speaking as a failure in everything I have touched, and never having had a proper job, I wish to make clear that, in bankrupting the UK and putting it into hock for the next many years, I was only doing what people of my limited intellect and overarching ignorance, see as a ‘good idea’.

    I still don’t fully understand the depth of the shit I have landed the country in, or the implications of what I have and have not done.

    All I know is that, in meddling with things I had no idea about, and answering to vague Stalinist principles, I completely fucked up.

    All the pain and anguish of the 80′s in putting right OldBoringLiar’s sad mess – and the pile of dosh I inherited? – gone down the shitter – what else did you expect from me?

    And there’s more – loads more – but, speaking of the shitter, I’ve got a jobby waiting.

    So, – tough on you – suckers!

    You voted us in! You sucked, – now you see!

    [Comment by UK Thought Police : not one word of this will ever be broadcast on AlJaBeeba]

  117. 441
    caesars wife says:

    quite liked Camerons letter to mrs Thatcher, is it really 30 yrs ago ?? seems like only yesterday when callaghan , apeared after his union meeting , and proclaimed “he do nothing with them” and calling the general election , hard to imagine the piles of rubbish and the unburied dead , lucky it was winter , almost unthinkable today !!

    as for falklands , that was the most sure est reason ever to go to war.

    totally agree there are lots of unemployed in the non count boxes we have today compared to then.

    in the end labour did not have a solution , only to hand out to whoever went on strike , business was just inefficient expanding compared to europe , who had lots of new manufacturing capacity and there in lies the truth exports have to compete both in quality and innovation as well as price , labour would have made a steam powered car to keep the pits open and called it progress .

    there was nothing gradual about it , it all had to be cut back until the efficencies started showing a profit , labour to this day have never admitted the resultant export boom , gave us an ecnomic edge.

    but then that is what is so trecherous about what labour have done this time round . knowing full well that global competeion makes exports so hard won (on real basis without sweetners) they then plunge the productive side of the economy into a tax full nelson and possibly an inflation big daddy splash .

    blair did give a concession in that he thought in the final analysis the speed of thatchers ecnomics reforms had done more good than a slow one , and told us that with genius gordon , “never again” indeed no more boom and bust , and sound money .

    the largest debt in 300 yrs canot be interpreted in any other way than a lie , that is being spun as mistake , john mcfall spouting it was the banks , the banks that did it . No it bloody well wasnt it was the risk, the regualtion and the chancellors ecnomic management , ime still trying to work out how the imports for debt scheme worked . however not only is the national current account in dire straights , the 50% increase in government guilts will affect everyones pension pot , as guilts are servicing the debt , so hes impoverished the economy in other ways .

    so arrive on stage the new politicians , after afew light shots, in june we have part one of the choice , and they are going to be courting our votes , in the red corner we have the dreich cowdenbeath clunker , with his debt triple whammy spin , in the yellow corner cosmopolitian clegg with his love embrace and in the blue corner the whitney warrior with his pnpoint waste whip and eaton ecnomics evangelism . could also see the gruesome griffin and his brtish revisionist grip of death .

    ringside seats folks for the new contenders for change to take on the cowdenbeath clunker , stuka osbourne , tango vince , prayers darling and host of other players not forgetting shape shifter mandelson , pieman prescott , canny clark , gripper gove , hammers harmen and elliciet expenses ed balls .

    fun aside though , we do need a change not just in the treasury but in the corrupt other areas .

    forget all this dont vote bullshit there all the same , if we need change everyone should vote it really matters this time and come the general election, labour will continue there cynical politics if we dont

    • 448
      Guess Who? says:

      You still pissed from lunch time?

      • 466
        caesars wife says:

        sober as ever , hey guido dales got some sort of international posters number count app , cant quite work out though why he has 11 readers from so many different countries , could a sort of bagging bloggers train spotters thing , yeah done it blogged dale from kathmandu !!

    • 467
      Doctor Mick says:

      I think that’s an admiral bit of typing on a Blackberry with two thumbs. It’s too long and I can’t be ar­sed to read it but I’m impressed nonetheless.

  118. 443
    Roberto says:

    Many a true word spoken in jest.

    • 444
      Roberto says:

      @ Lord Mandelbaum os Spin-Cash

      • 453
        Lord Mandelbaum of Spin-Cash says:

        We try…

        I’m just waiting in Corfu (before those idiots Osborne and Nat arrive) for the roof to fall in on merry old England…Then I will get Alain Minc (well known plagiarist and condemned for fraud already but who cares !) or other spin cashers on the Continent to pay off my 2 million quid mortgage in Euros..

        Then I will sit back and receive all my EUSSR benefits in Euros and TAX FREE (true)..and go on spin cashing…!

        It’s a lovely life really…

        So I will be sitting very pretty..

    • 549
      Doctor Mick says:

      But never a true word spoken by a jessie.

      • 856
        thick as thieves says:

        fucking hell mick, you’ve rimmed fucking loads of people on this thread!
        really desperate to make friends, eh?
        you sad c’unt.
        you really are fitting the profile of a nonce with all this horrible grooming stuff you are doing.
        very creepy.

  119. 454
    TraceyTemplesExBoyfriend says:

    Bruins resign poll is flying now – 44771 and thats before the extra publicity its going to get in the Sundays (don’t forget to publish the actual address!!)

  120. 456
    nell says:

    I’ve just read an interesting piece in the Labourgraph online calling Ed Balls a sapanaceous toad. What a great nickname for him. Sadly he’s not going to be around long to enjoy it – Gordon’s greatest pal, it is rumoured, might be falling from grace in July when he and Yvette’s expenses become public knowledge. One by one gordon’s henchman are coming down. Well at least if that happens it will save the primary schools from even more disastrous reorganisation that he was planning.

    • 462
      Lord Mandelbaum of Spin-Cash says:

      You will never get me on the expenses thing ‘cos all my expenses are paid offshore “by friends”….

    • 485
      Grytpype-thynne says:

      “planning” in the loosest sense I think; this ST is cunning but has no forward thinking ability at all.He is, in fact, a typical Liebour politician

    • 738
      MandyTheUnflushableTurd says:

      Its rumoured some liebour MP bought 4 flatscreen TV’s over the past few years. Names will be named in July – wonder if it was one of these 2?

  121. 460
    waht? says:

    I see they’ve already started to rewrite history. New Labour wasn’t socialism, it was Thatcherism, blah blah blah. We’ll the Police State, the snooping, the loss of freedom, the taxes to support the feckless, the waste of public money and all the propaganda/spin certainly feels like socialism.

    • 484
      Lord Mandelbaum of Spin-Cash says:

      You haven’t understood anything yet…

      Tony and I decided years ago that we needed a few million quid each…I then told him I would spin our way and he would be the nice face..It has nothing to do with socialism…What a stupid idea…

      But we had to con the Labour Party (whose members and MPs were very short of cash as well) into giving us the time to spin our way into a position with a good network (Alain Minc, Bill Clinton and various other shady well-p)leaced spinners) to make the millions…You can see that Tony has about 13 million quid’s worth of property now (plus God knows how much in expenses and ex-Prime Mentalist benefits)…I only have a house worth 2.4 million quid…But I am catching up with Tony..and I have “friends” on the Continent who have lots of Euros and governments in Euroloand which “allow” massive corruption…

      So you see, it was all a huge con really…And I am still laughing all the way to the Euroland Bank…

      Nice one really…Dont’t you agree ?

  122. 463
    Anonymous says:

    Love the way Hattie is calling for unity, and not Gordon.

    Why doesn’t she just yell ‘NOW IS MY TIME! VOTE FOR ME! VOTE FOR ME! ME! ME! ME! IT’S ALL ABOUT ME!’ and get it over with.

  123. 493
    David says:

    In the Labour Party, calls for unity are a call to arms. Harperson will challenge.

    • 495
      Sunonmars says:

      Exactly as one commentator said today, you don’t call for unity, its tantamount to saying, we have lost control and dont know how to get it back. Might as well have stuck up a sign saying “we are f”cked”

      Harriet is setting herself up for the run at Brown and she knows its coming very very soon.

      • 498
        Roberto says:

        The Mentalist will be planning her demise as we speak especially with the ‘Pie Eater’ on board

      • 501
        A sign that says "we are f*cked" says:

        Leave me out of it guv

    • 535
      Anonymous says:

      Just a way for would be caretakers to throw their hats into the ring?

    • 576
      Massey Vardon says:

      It worked for Ian Duncan Smith.

      Oh, wait…

  124. 504
    Harpic says:

    `Sectioned under the Mental Health Act`
    What are the procedures to section Brown under this act – can it be done through the Privy Council or did Olly Cromwell totally emasculate it ? Can it be done through Parliament on an EDM ? Can it be done through a private organisation? Are there any references in Bagehot or Erskine May which outline procedures to be followed in the event of lunacy by a MP or a Minister of the Crown? Failing all that can a petition be organised for the sectioning of Brown?

    This should not be treated lightly as his behaviour and demeanour over the last few months seriously indicate some severe mental disturbance.

    • 509
      Mr Christopher says:

      I raised this question once before, and apparently it only requires the opinion of a social worker for Brown to be sectioned briefly for observation.

      I understand the opinion of two psychiatrists would be necessary for him to be confined in a secure psychiatric hospital – Broadmoor or Rampton – which many will think more suitable to his case.

      He should be regarded as very dangerous, as if he were to escape, and once again rise to power by organized lying, our country might not recover a second time.

    • 510
      Madness of King George says:

      Send for Matron, she’ll know what to do.

      If you can’t find Matron, lobotomise urgently.

    • 558
      Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

      Interesting Q.

      If you want to know the position under Erskine May, perhaps an enquiry to Mr Speaker-in-the-trough Gorbals Mick might elicit advice?

      It is rather important. At moments like this I hope that the rumours about use of the ‘independent’ ‘deterrent’ being subject to American approval are true. The thought of a Scots lunatic being able to press the button is hair-raising.

      Equally, a good war with Iran could solve all Brown’s problems (and those of the rest of the human race, too).

    • 577
      Hairy Arsed Bloke says:

      As I keep saying, don’t call the evil snot goblin mad; he’ll use insanity as a defense at his trial. We don’t want him to spend the rest of his days in Broadmoor when he needs to go to the gallows with B’Liar and the rest of ‘em.

  125. 506
    James Keir Hardie says:

    Did you see Prescott praising Brown? it was like watching Ian Huntley saying Ian Brady wasn’t such a bad guy. Liars all of em …

    • 508
      Sunonmars says:

      Prescott is the last person you would want defending you for “credibility”, Two jags, two shags and useless fat bas£ard.

      No-one takes Prescott seriously about anything.

      • 512
        Mr Christopher says:

        Much the same was said about Martin Bormann, yet he certainly had considerable power.

        Isn’t it true that Prescott need only make a single call to the Special Branch for you to be swept away into Night & Fog? When the Goons have no compunction about threatening Damian Green with life imprisonment, what do you think they would do to Joe Public if Prescott pointed the finger?

        Not for nothing is Gordon Brown known to folklorists as “The Evil Eye.”

      • 516
        Lizzie says:

        Any praise from Prescott must surely be the kiss of death, and no recommendation. Prescott is now a “has been”

      • 832
        Bollocks to NuLabour says:

        Prescott will just keep regurgitating the same old shite

      • 858
        Pukka Pies says:

        “No-one takes Prescott seriously about anything”

        I assure you sir, we take him vey seriously.

    • 514
      Anonymous says:

      Prescott is a self-confessed sex offender. He is a nonce. Scum like that shouldn’t be in any position to lecture the rest of us.

      • 582
        blue says:

        only consolation being if FNB points the finger at least its not covered in snot

    • 726
      Trough Mixture says:

      He came across as I would imagine Goering came over to the Germans of his time. I believe Goering would at least break the monotony of what he had to say with displays of stunt farting.

  126. 513
    Anonymous says:

    On Gordon Brown’s orders the Bank of England are now using proxies at UK bond auctions to buy gilts.

    The house of cards is near to collapse.

  127. 520
    Lord Mandelbaum of Spin-Cash says:

    I have just bought the largest wheel barrow manufacturer in the UK (by proxy)….it will be very profitable…like in Zimbabwe…

  128. 522
    TOO FAR says:

    Ha Ha Prescot praising Mc Broon!!! Well it looks like the thick SOB is looking for a job, as a professional arsehole for lordy Mandy, any port in a storm.
    Well he was a steward.

    Hello sailor!!!

    • 523
      Lord Mandelbaum of Spin-Cash says:

      Don’t be rude about me…

      Prezzie used to sweep my office very well…and pass the biscuits…

      and I did not allow him to bend over…

      • 530
        TOO FAR says:

        Bend over!! the lights will go out and the horizon, the sun, the moon!!!!! I feel sick…. mind you that is what he “talks” out of!! One big arsehole.. talks shit, shit for brains, one total pile… could go on.

        People in Hull voted for him, put a red rose on an arsehole and labour voters will put an X on it. Hull people what have you done? Fuck sake!!!

      • 555
        Doctor Mick says:

        It is their revenge on the rest of the country for making them live in Hull. …if we have to live in a run-down shithole then so can the rest of you!

      • 730
        Susie says:

        True Story: A certain Tory MP used to wind Prescott up good and proper by asking “Another G&T please Steward…” if 2jags passed by his table in the Commons Bar.

    • 567
      Big Nose says:

      I smell leadership contest.

    • 609
      Anonymous says:

      Remind me again, who was it 2 Jags was shagging, and why wasnt he prosecuted for sexual harassment in the workplace? I guess we should take his comments at face value?

  129. 526
    me here says:

    Thatcher? Puleessszzzzz! It was all that moonbat’s fault in the first place.

  130. 546
    eye-eye says:

    Anyone want to buy 50 million face masks?

  131. 556
    Ruth Kelly's plaything says:

    45,042 as at 20:30 on Sat 2 May.

    Another petition has appeared which might amuse fellow-conspirators:-

    http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/Stay-GordonBrown/

    We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to To resist any attempt to get him to resign or call an Election. More details
    Submitted by Keith Armstrong of Gordon Brown Appreciation Soc. – Deadline to sign up by: 01 July 2009 – Signatures: 44
    • Evi… – No, I can’t do this to my country!
    • Over 41K sigs say you are wrong!
    • Gordon Brown Appreciation Society?
    • You’re on benefits,I assume?
    • Why Keith Why? Unelected = Unwanted
    • Steven Sulley
    • Gordon Brown
    • William Lawrence Robb
    • You are totally mental
    • Ray Edmunds
    • Joanne Stephenson
    • bruce miller
    • Who let this arsehole out of his padded cell
    • Benjamin Dobson
    • Jamie Brown
    • Most Excellent Piss-take
    • Damien McBride
    • S.Beale
    • Only a non-worker who sponges off everyone else would come up with this
    • Jennifer Roberts
    • Resign now
    • Joseph Stalin
    • Baldrick
    • to make sure the Tories win
    • Irma Littletee-Pott
    • Gordon’s mum
    • Rav
    • joseph fritzl
    • Barak Obama
    • Carol Duckfield
    • Richard Scott
    • Paid by the Labour party, I presume?
    • Harriet H
    • keith armstrong bollocks
    • Sorry, we need change desperately
    • Robert Mugabe
    • Bollocks!
    • steve plume
    • Sorry, I thought it was May 1st, not April Fools Day
    • Michael Traill
    • C Moodie
    • Brown is a Bell End
    • Ewan MacDonald

    • 789
      Steve says:

      45708 at 2am Sunday.
      Don’t forget the original ‘GB Stay’ petition at
      http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/support-the-PM/ – this one is now back to 48, every time the moderators do a cull they all go back in again…

      # Gordon Smiss-Ineye
      # Bet you wish you hadn’t started this embarrasing petition with so few voters?
      # Joey Deacon
      # Jen W K Elphinstone
      # G. Brown MP
      # Iruine Le Gibie
      # Joe Stalin
      # Moody Blew
      # Mao tse tung
      # Don’t you mean this ONCE great country of ours
      # i’m a PM get me out of here
      # Ray Vinlunee
      # Winston Churchill
      # Gordon Zay-Tosser
      # David McCamoron
      # Iman Arizole

  132. 564
    sorry, not very bright says:

    Could anyone tell me if there’s time for an election before the summer break if they dump Brown straight after the Euros?

    • 597
      nell says:

      Someone said on here this morning that the earliest would be October presumably because of the admin logistics. But in truth this man is in, stressed and determined that he isn’t going to let go of power until he must, or unless his health gives way, and in Westminster, as I’m sure Guido will tell us, the date being banded about is May 6 2010.

      • 632
        Babar was a very poorly baby elephant says:

        October and after would be more of a suicide than this or next summer – if they can’t call this summer then it will be next.
        My money is on Brown resigning in Januuary, giving the new leader a bounce and time to distance himself from Brown’s mistakes…
        If he goes in January, there will be little criticism on another annointed PM as the election would be within 6 months.
        Best chance of Zanu keeping the defeat moderate – with the outside possibility of Libs holding balance.
        Cameron needs to keep close to Clegg as an insurance policy and ensure Brown is kept as the pariah that most decent people treat him as in any case.

  133. 569
    Anonymous says:

    45,169

    • 580
      It doesn't add up... says:

      Flagging a little today… only up 2,176 since midnight last night. Has anyone reported more problems with signing? Do we need to give it another publicity boost?

      • 599
        nell says:

        It will ebb and flow – so yes regular publicity boosts would be good.

  134. 573
    StrongholdBarricades says:

    Hazel Blears appears to have written a very critical article for tomorrow’s Observer

    “You Tube if you want to”

    • 596
      Anonymous says:

      Trying to distance herself. She’s (almost) as bad as the rest of them – an utter hoon motormouth who, until recently was licking arse “Gordon does this, Gordon does that …on and on and on at break-neck speed.

      • 601
        anonybot says:

        Positioning for leadership challenge – if Harman puts up so will “the chipmunk” cos’ she hates Harman’s Guts!!!!!

      • 737
        Susie says:

        Squirrel Nutcase.

    • 614
      Anonymous says:

      Blears has been positioning herself with populist speeches for some time now. She ill of course fall like the rest of them. It is quite enjoyable watching them all bicker amongst themselves.

    • 630
      Chipmunk says:

      Groundhog Day for all at Zanu!!

  135. 578
    s.mears says:

    There is no way that Brown will easily relinquish the power that he has yearned to wield these past 2 decades! Falling on his sword is not an option for this leader.

    He will undoubtedly soldier on until the bitter end, leaving his troops completely demoralised.
    The whole New Labour experiment will end when HE leaves the stage, and when HE decides to call the general election.

    Anyway, Labour do not have the guts to replace him with somebody (or anybody!) who stands a better chance of winning. And so, Brown will remain the Conservatives (and, probably, the Lib Dems) greatest asset until he runs out of time

    Very sad, very predictable, and almost Shakespearian!

  136. 579
    I'm revving my bus says:

    Yes, I am out there communicating with the people, it’s all about euros in the pocket, and my mate Neil and glenys Knnock over in Manchester, and Alastair, we are all communciating and getting our message out, and

    Oh shut the fuck up you sad excuse for a coherent argument

  137. 585
    Let's ignore Toynbee. says:

    Let’s ignore Toynbee. Uneducated and with unsound judgement, she has bored us enough over the years. What about those of us who, unlike the great Toynbee, always thought Brown was a bullying, intellectual lightweight who should be quietly kept away from anything resembling an important job? As it turns out we were all correct, but Toynbee got to collect her handsome salary over the years by being wrong about this and just about everything else.

    So, that’s it, never read her stuff or listen to her and she will go away.

    • 604
      Greychatter says:

      No let her have a job – perhaps a cleaner at the BBC – where she can continue fawning around Andrew Marr on Sunday A.M.

    • 633
      Chipmunk says:

      Shame on anybody actually reading and believing such rubbish that she has penned!!

      How do they get away with it!

  138. 602
    Expecting to be "Sir Keith Vaz" soon says:

    I’m the only one to able rescue the Party and save our great country.

    • 611
      Greychatter says:

      Keith Vas – Paul Botang – Mandleson -

      All the same – surprising what a few quid a new suit and eloqution lessons can do for some of these Labourites

    • 616
      Harperson says:

      No you’re not. I am.

  139. 603
    The Beast Of Clerkenwel says:

    Brown Shakespearian ?

    Yes I agree
    BOTTOM
    A complete arse

  140. 606
    nell says:

    Never mind Polly Twaddle look at Yvette. The 6th best remunerated politician nationwide with a total financial package of £412,428. Ms Cooper claimed £152,660. in expenses from April 2007 to March 2008! I am so looking forward to July and seeing what she and her hubbies claims really amount to. Time to go dear Ed and Yve.

    • 608
      nell says:

      Well of course I meant hubby’s!

      • 656
        Robert Catesby says:

        Lets look at how either the Balls betray their constituents or betray their children.
        Two ZaNuLieBore MPs in (just) neighbouring constituencies and both senior members of the cabinet. One a Norwich born Nottingham public school boy, the other a Scottish born daughter of a union’s general secretary.

        One of them can never live in their constituency because the 2nd home must be in the other’s constituency. Because of them both having senior government positions neither can be in touch with the lives of their constituents.

        And perhaps worse, neither of them can be available for proper and normal parenting of their children. Why haven’t the children been taken into care?

        And Balls has the cheek to complain about us who post on this blog and would be frightened for his children to see it. The truth hurts …. perhaps?

    • 610
      Anonymous says:

      Word is that they’re shitting themselves about July.

      • 612
        nell says:

        One wonders if she is one of the one’s that they said the other day are on on ‘suicide watch’. How did we ever let these leaches get into such a position of power? And when I think who her husband is and how much he is also claiming from us the tax payer- I feel so angry. Time for the peasants to revolt – Let them eat cake? – they have so had their day! Pay back time at the ballot box.

      • 617
        Every day is a HOONFEST says:

        This disgraceful hoon family not only hve their snouts in the trough, they walk around with the nosebag as well.

        Looking forward to July as if it were Christmas!

      • 621
        Mark Oaten says:

        590, do you have their address?

      • 637
        Borat says:

        Why, they are new labour, the taxpayers owe them fourfold for everything they do for us, we are not worthy to have such a couple as our representatives……………………….NOT!

      • 639
        nell says:

        TIME to examine this couple in depth, ‘especially’ their relationship with Brown and their ‘expenses’

  141. 615
    I'm revving my bus says:

    Timesonline has a piece up – some expenses will be redacted. Probably not the best move in this farrago.

    Probably academic after Hazel kicks him in the nuts tomorrow.

    • 777
      It doesn't add up... says:

      That just increases the value of the unredacted copy that’s for sale

    • 786
      Steve says:

      If they do their usual job of ‘redactions’ by putting a black background over the text in a PDF file, you can copy and paste the ‘redacted’ text out of the document into a text editor.

      The US Gov screwed this up last year with a report into Americans killing Italians in Bagdad…
      http://vowe.net/archives/005838.html

  142. 620
    Anonymous says:

    A coup against poor, mad Brown is imminent. It’s just like a remake of King Lear!

  143. 622
    Babar was a very poorly baby elephant says:

    Good article from Kaletsky in Times today – especially the last paragraph :-)
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/anatole_kaletsky/article6194351.ece

  144. 624
    nell says:

    JacquiS is pressing ahead with gChq eavesdropping plan that will monitor all emails,website visits, social networking and telephone calls, despite what has been said in the last few days that they are not going to do that. Just shows how afraid they are of what we, the peasants, are going to find out about them. Welll this GB snooping project is the most recent example of this government’s paranioa. As for Hazel –well– I wonder what her expenses are ? – roll on July – but even moreso – roll on the next election so we can get rid of this rotten crew

    • 634
      Will ShakeSpeare says:

      That’s just great, because when they lose the next election, there’s no way that someone won’t leak the filth that has gone between the members and minions of the present Government

      Did any Labour MPs take out a Northern Rock mortgage after the after the bailout??

    • 720
      MandyTheUnflushableTurd says:

      Smith is a dead woman walking – Bruins using her for this one last job coz he knows she cant be hated any more than she is already, and he’d look worse than he does already (if thats possible) if he did whats best for Britain and sacked her immediately.

    • 778
      It doesn't add up... says:

      GIve Jac

  145. 625
    Robin says:

    Oh no, Jokers on her hysterical, dastardly rant. Yes, looks like a mad leadership contest is definitely not too far away… somebody use the Batsignal to help Gotham, er, Gordan quick. Holy backstabs, Batman!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8031143.stm

  146. 629
    nell says:

    Yvette’s chauffeur (wife of School’s Secretary) has been arrested on suspicion of indecent assault against children. (Mail Online)

  147. 635
    No 10 Downing Street says:

    ‘We are now consulting with private offices, stakeholder managers and the diversity strategy unit to draw up guidelines that strike the right balance.

    ‘The aim is to find a way to celebrate our diversity – and offer reassurances to groups who may feel marginalised [Blairites] – without falling into the trap of diminishing impact (or indeed overloading our communications system) through an unnecessary plethora of messages [from Blears/Kelly/Hoey/Clarke/Stringer/Field/Byers/Ghurka rebels/any remaining decents].’

  148. 640
    Anonymous says:

    The deserted flat that earned Baroness Uddin $110k:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6211535.ece

    • 654
      Outraged says:

      I though I saw hallucinating when I read this Times article….but I
      have not ye had even one noggin (yet) (or a line…)

      It seems the expense fiddling is COMPLETELY OUT OF HAND…and the truth is stranger than anything we can invent…

      • 706
        MandyTheUnflushableTurd says:

        I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, along with the same stock answer every MP gives when asked: these expenses are entirely within the rules we made up for ourselves, and we have 100% cross-party unity on this matter.

    • 669
      Steve says:

      If this wasn’t our money it would almost be funny – as it is, it is nothing more than a disgrace

      Here’s Whacky in more trouble about her “Main Residence” with her sister

      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5762376.ece

      “Jacqui Smith faces inquiry over housing expenses

      “Neighbours have alleged that Jacqui Smith stays at her London home for as few as two nights each week, despite claiming this is her ‘main home’ for expenses purposes”

      Her neighbour…”Mr Taplin, 46, who works from home, said: “You can tell when she is here because the police guards arrive first. They turn up mid-morning on Monday and leave mid-morning on Thursday. I cannot recall when they have been here any other nights of the week. I find her behaviour extraordinary.”

      “The couple claimed that Ms Smith did not stay in her London home during the summer recess or at Christmas. ”

      PIGS WITH THEIR SNOUTS IN THE TROUGH THE LOT OF THEM

    • 696
      Samee says:

      My children are getting really confused these days. The original story was about 3 little pigs in 3 houses, with 1 wolf. Now they’re hearing about 100′s of pigs with several houses each and 45000+ wolves! The hardest bit is trying to explain to them that they’ll still be paying for all the pigs f*ck-ups when they’re my age.

    • 717
      Anonymous says:

      This is what is known in archaic legal terms as a FUCKIN FRAUD!

  149. 641
    Anonymous says:

    Sorry, 100 British Pounds.

  150. 647
    nell says:

    The Mail Online tonight is reporting that Charles Clarke is calling for Ed Ball’s to be fired to purge the PM’s POISONOUS inner circle. Wow – ‘Damian McBride, Derek Draper, Ed Balls – going-going ………….’

    Who’s next – Charlie Whelan – how long before UNITE finally understands that they must dump him to be true to their members? And what about Anbdrew whatsisname??? Hopefully he’s next.

  151. 658
    Steve says:

    New Mail on Sunday article “Charles Clarke Demands Ed Balls be Sacked”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1176738/As-Labour-plotters-plan-replace-Brown-Charles-Clarkes-shock-demand-Ed-Balls-sacked.html

    ” * It was revealed that Mr Brown had lost his temper following a series of television interviews and had to be calmed by Peter Mandelson.
    * Rebel Labour MPs on a ‘hit list’ given to the Prime Minister by Chief Whip Nick Brown were named.
    * John Prescott told Labour MPs critical of Mr Brown to get out of the party.
    * A dozen Labour MPs were said to be on the point of defecting to the Liberal Democrats.

    “Damian McBride was not a lone gun in the politics of 10 Downing Street. He was part of a poisonous team. The matter won’t be laid to rest until all links with Derek Draper and Charlie Whelan are severed and those Ministers who worked very closely with them are removed from their positions.’”

    Here we go :-)

    Petition update – now at 45500, if it carries on at the rate it will be somewhere around 175000 in time for the June elections!!

    • 665
      Sunonmars says:

      This coup is further along than I imagined, highly co-ordinated and likely to be swift, Brown is being completely pis£ed on from a great height and this is not just little things, this is full scale “et tu brute”.

  152. 660
    Sunonmars says:

    Holy Mary and now Blears moves in for the kill, anyone who doubted this was unco-ordinated is left in no doubt. Chipmunk does a number on Brown.

    Tomorrows Telegraph

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/gordon-brown/5264890/Brown-under-fire-as-Blears-attacks-lamentable-failures.html

    Gordon Brown under fire as Hazel Blears attacks ‘lamentable’ failures.

    Gordon Brown last night suffered his most severe attack yet from inside his Cabinet as a leading minister savaged the Prime Minister over his government’s “lamentable” failures of policy and communication.

    • 667
      Sunonmars says:

      Kate Hoey: I would not be devastated if Tories win

      There’s honety for you. Watch her defect soon.

      • 685
        denverthen says:

        What is her defect? Is it of an intimate nature? If so, I will be watching.

      • 713
        Sarah says:

        She’s honest and hard-working, which is a defect in the Labour party.

      • 759
        Rob says:

        Kate along with Frank, Gisella and one or two others have always come across to me as honest, rational,old school conviction politicians who have the welfare of their constituents at heart. The fact that they are not part of this ruling clique is a badge of honour but at the same time an appalling waste of potential real talent whilst their over promoted, intellectual inferiors,asleep on the job or troughing at our expense make a bad situation, hourly worse.
        If Labour still retains a shadow of its core values the last place I would be looking for it is on their front bench and that includes postman pat.

    • 712
      Samee says:

      Hazel Blears says – “I want to make it clear that the Prime Minister enjoys my 100 per cent support. Any suggestion that I intended what I wrote as criticism of him or his leadership is completely wrong”. If McHoon was a football manager, he’d be clearing his desk right now after a statement like that.

  153. 664
    Robert Catesby says:

    O/T
    Does anyone know if I changed my name to
    ” ZZZ NONE OF THE ABOVE ”
    paid my £500 and put myself up for election could I be certain my name would be at the bottom of the list of candidates?

    • 682
      Steve says:

      Your suggested name is ILLEGAL under

      Statutory Instrument 2005 No. 147
      Registration of Political Parties (Prohibited Words and Expressions) (Amendment) Order 2005

      http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2005/20050147.htm

      which implements the rule that says:
      ‘… that the expression “None of the above” is misleading and liable to cause confusion among voters and might potentially undermine the electoral process. ‘

      • 695
        Robert Catesby says:

        Thanks Steve,
        I wasn’t suggesting forming a party under this name but officially changing MY personal name and standing as an independent. Would I be disallowed because of my name?

      • 721
        Steve says:

        mmm…….

        Wikipedia says that
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_Administration_Act_2006
        “Bars candidates from using in their name or description expressions such as “Don’t vote for them” or “None of the above”

        but I don’t trust Wiki as a lone source and can’t find any official documentation to back it up. I knew the answer to the first question ‘cos it came up (here I think) a week or two back. I’d check out
        http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2006/plain/ukpga_20060022_en
        (the definitive documents) before changing your name by deed poll though. ;-)

      • 732
        Steve says:

        Robert – more detailled reply awaiting moderation, but I think the answer is the same. You’re not allowed to use a name if…

        “…that the use of the commonly used name may be likely to mislead or confuse electors”

        Steve

      • 743
        Robert Catesby says:

        But would the Zzz as my first name get me at the bottom of the list if it were allowed?
        Or would I have to change my name to surname: Zzz and forenames: None Of The Above so I appear on the allot paper as Zzz, None Of The Above?

        It seems such a deliciously easy opportunity to get my snout in the trough for just £500 plus the cost of changing my name.

        And how could anyone object if my name was Mr Zzz, Mr None Of The Above Zzz?

      • 764
        Anonymous says:

        Steve #660 How then did these Hunts get away with calling themselves “New” Labour when it was the same old same old ?

      • 768
        Steve says:

        Robert, my guess is probably not. Find out the name of the returning officer, run it past them before you sign the deed poll…

        Or we could ask Guido to come up with an ‘Anti Politics Party’ and see if we can collectively put up someone against every hoon in the currrent House..? What do you think Guido??

    • 690
      Steve says:

      When I was at university we had in our students’ Union election the option “Re-Open Nominations” – this ‘name’ doesn’t seem to be illegal ;-)

      • 746
        Anonymous says:

        When I was at Uni we voted for the tea ladies cat as the head of the department – served in the post for 1 year with no adverse effects I seem to remember

  154. 670
    Anonymous says:

    Gordon Brown has a series of temper tantrums in front of reporters. PM loses it big time:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1176735/Revealed-How-Gordon-Brown-threw-tantrum-TV-interview–soothed-Lord-Mandelson.html

    • 673
      Sunonmars says:

      You notice the increase in reports in the media of “unstable” this is how they are going to get him out, reckon it will be a “nervous breakdown” very very soon. These media whackjobs are not being done for no reason.

      • 762
        Anonymous says:

        You are indeed correct , this is Downing Streets “exit strategy” preparing the way for Gordon to step down thru “exhaustion”. These fuckwits dont realise we have seen the “wibble” excuse played out in our own workplaces up and down the country many times.

        Jesus , they really think we were born yesterday.

    • 688
      wimbin finbin limbin bustop furtang furtang ole buiscuit barrel (silly party) says:

      I like the comment from Mandelson that ‘its’ a bank holiday you can relax”. Like the Easter break then?

    • 698
      MandyTheUnflushableTurd says:

      There there Gordypoosssss, let me ssssooth your troubled brow with my loving gentle fingerssss, you can trussssst me.

  155. 672
    wimbin finbin limbin bustop furtang furtanf ole buiscuit barrel (silly party) says:

    I don’t accept there is a problem

  156. 676
    Geordie Girl says:

    Sunday newspaper review on Sky News – lots and lots of talk about Alan Johnson being the favoured one to take over from Brown. Charles Clarke saying Ed Balls should be sacked according to the Mail on Sunday. Further rumours of Brown trashing his office in a fit of rage.

    It is out and out war in the Labour Party.

    • 684
      Anonymous says:

      I know – funny isn’t it ;-)

    • 699
      fart knocker peach says:

      If they ditch brown for johnson, it will be much harder for the tories.

      I do hope gordy keeps his job!

      • 701
        court of public opinion says:

        Not that much though, we can allow it .

      • 719
        fart knocker peach says:

        The best result if gordy lost is job would be harperson!!

        The tories would have a field day.

    • 757
      Anonymous says:

      This is pish being put about by Gordos acolytes. They know that Johnston does not inspire the electorate so they think that by touting him we will “oh well better the devil you know” rather than a postman. In fact what we are saying is

      FUCK OFF ALL OF YOU LABOUR THIEVING SCUM .

      Which of course they havent accounted for. good day.

    • 825
      Honest Hain for PM says:

      Hello. You seem to forgotten about me. I’m up for a leadership campaign as the cash is out there.

  157. 677
    Anonymous says:

    Cowardly Brown is terrified of dogs:

    “‘He (Gordon Brown) had an awkward smile and was trying to find a route around the dog off the pathway.
    ‘When the dog went to sniff him, he was up on his tiptoes dancing around so that the dog wouldn’t get that close…….”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1176736/On-PMs-difficulties-dealing-Press-trouble-dogs-too.html

    • 679
      Anonymous says:

      “‘It’s a bit of a laugh among some of us and we get disappointed if our pooches haven’t scared “wee Gordy”. It’s pathetic to watch, actually.’…”

      Courage my arse!!

    • 681
      Sunonmars says:

      it would seem the media has decided enough and Brown has to go.

    • 769
      NewGirl says:

      never trust a man who doesn’t like dogs

  158. 683
    Anonymous says:

    TalkSport Radio news reported that Brown completely wrecked his Downing St office in a furious tantrum on Friday. Smashed a computer, glasses, threw a waste bin at a civil servant in a screaming mad rage.

    • 686
      Anonymous says:

      now THAT would be hillarious!! More than a few Nokias needed there me thinks!

      • 694
        R.McGeddon says:

        I assume that the Taxpayers will again be paying for all of this as per usual ?

    • 689
      Anonymous says:

      The mad bastard will be frothing at the mouth soon!

    • 691
      denverthen says:

      Dale’s spat with George “Indefatigable” Galloway on Talksport some minutes ago was quite entertaining.

      Yet another treacherous Scottish windbag with a personality disorder.

    • 692
      TraceyTemplesExBoyfriend says:

      It never rains but it pours.
      Have a nice bank holiday Bruin. After single handedly bankrupting Britain you deserve some contemplation time.

    • 723
      Mrs Trellis says:

      The Met should be called in to investigate criminal damage

    • 823
      Freud Haggis, Neaps & Tatties says:

      Nurse! Straightjacket and lithium for Mr Brown.

      He’s clearly gone bonkers. Section him … now.

  159. 687
    Anonymous says:

    Brown and McBride are smearing David Miliband on the front of the News of the World.

  160. 697
    Anonymous says:

    Peter Mandelson leaked the story to the MoS about Brown’s series of tantrums in various TV studios. Mandy is going to destroy Brown.

    • 704
      Sunonmars says:

      Thinking the exact same thing, Mandy is the man would sit down at a dinner table with you to eat and then cut your throat over dessert.

      • 741
        Lord Mandelbaum of Spin-Cash says:

        Of course I did…

        I have my nest so well feathered that you could not believe it…

        I have told you my story before…Tony and I wanted to become multi-millionaires…It is done…f’k Labour and the working classes…

        Now we will put the blame for the collapse on the old fart Brown…he always was one…and as you should know, always will be…

        Then I will rise from the ashes as someone who was always right

        As usual

        Living in luxury in Regents Park with my tax free Euro income…and my offhore friends…

        HA HA HA….

        PS It is lovely in Corfu at the moment….Natty R’child has organised a house here for me as well…I am waiting for the Russian oligarchs for an orgy tomorrow…but an still faithful to Brazil…

        PPS And some people call me the Prince of darkness…all is Light in my world…

        You cannot believe the depths of my cynicism…

  161. 702
    Geordie Girl says:

    Did Guido know just exactly what he was setting in motion when Damian McBride appeared on here with a rifle site on his forehead. The repercussions are expanding exponentionally. I don’t think Brown can survive this.

    • 715
      Sunonmars says:

      Guido brings the Govt, how delicious, he’s a one man Christine Keeler.

    • 736
      Outraged says:

      Hi Geordie Girl

      Guido knew more than most of us would ever have suspected frankly…

      And it is horrifying that the UK has sunk to these depths….

      With a generation like your having to spend the whole of your lives paying for the financial damage as well…

      best

  162. 703

    Guido, if Polly Toynbee is without hope, surely this means she is hopeless?

  163. 708
    Sunonmars says:

    i would say it was a joke but i bet its not

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/05/02/scandal-of-labour-mp-who-built-sauna-and-put-it-on-his-expenses-115875-21327381/

    Scandal of Labour MP who built sauna and put it on his expenses

    Fresh scandal over MPs’ expenses flared last night amid claims one politician used taxpayers’ cash to install a sauna at his home.

    The unnamed MP – thought to be a senior Labour figure – said he has a skin condition requiring regular sauna sessions, revealed a senior Westminster source.

  164. 714
    Sunonmars says:

    On the Mirror tomorrow, would you believe it.

    Scandal of Labour MP who built sauna and put it on his expenses

    Fresh scandal over MPs’ expenses flared last night amid claims one politician used taxpayers’ cash to install a sauna at his home.

    The unnamed MP – thought to be a senior Labour figure – said he has a skin condition requiring regular sauna sessions, revealed a senior Westminster source.

    • 732
      Outraged says:

      OHG

      How far does this obscene farce have to go….

      I used to be moderate in my reactions but these people should be put in Court for FRAUD, THEFT and being a DISGRACE TO THE HOUSE OF COMMONS…

      Not to speak of the PEERS….

    • 822
      Botulox ... for men says:

      Would this be the same bloke who looks effeminate and recently left Government papers on a train?

  165. 716
    wimbin finbin limbin bustop furtang furtang ole biscuit barrel (silly party) says:

    I was going to post something a bit sarcastic here, then I realised I would feel really guilty when Gordon Brown was sectioned for his own safety.

    • 727
      R.McGeddon says:

      Well, it wont be the men it grey suits removing Gormless, it will be the men in white overalls and they had better wear anti-Nokia body armour too.

  166. 722
    Here we go... says:

    Ladies & Gentlemen, start your popcorn. It’s going to be a fun week in the Labour Party.

    • 725
      Sunonmars says:

      already bought the popcorn, I mean, as an ordinary person waking up to the newspaper headlines and tv stories tomorrow, I’d want an election pretty damn quick tbh. They cannot run the country and be at civil war with each other, its just inexcusable with the mess we are in financially.

      • 728
        R.McGeddon says:

        They have nt been running the country; they’ve been ruining it.

      • 731
        eye-eye says:

        There’s too much to take in………………………absolutely unbelieveable.

        Wait for the bang and ambulance sirens ouside No. 10 any time now

    • 750
      Steve says:

      Popcorn bought, comfy sofa, TV and PC in place. Beers in fridge, Champagne on ice for the inevitable day which can’t come soon enough. This is more fun than any sport I’ve seen in years…

      I’d be shocked if they can stay in power past the June elections now, the petition is up to 45,500 now, will be near 200,000 by the election if it carries on at this rate – and the ONLY person the one-eyed snotlicker can find to stick up for him is JOHN FUCKING PRESCOTT!!!!!!!

      If the office got trashed last week, I think the whole of No.10 could be a mess when he wakes up and reads the papers tomorrow morning!!

      • 766
        Robert Catesby says:

        Prezzer, a Welshman pretending to be Yorkshireman, supporting a Snotsman. Did I type Snotsman, I meant to type Bogeyman, sorry. And the only thing going for Prezzer is, as best we know, he is not an uphill gardener unlike the rest of the shirtlifting bastards destroying this country.

  167. 734
  168. 740
    IHaveToBeToldWhenToSmile says:

    When labour shit turns on labour shit its time to pull up a chair, crack open a sixpack and savour the bank holiday entertainment.

  169. 747
    John Prescott says:

    At this point, I thought, “Oh fuck you all! I’m off to see Tony. Blub.”

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/02/article-0-04C8E1DF000005DC-73_224x423.jpg

    • 755
      Steve says:

      JP, any chance you could please tell the only friend you have left to go and see the Queen?

      • 760
        Sunonmars says:

        The Queen wouldnt want to see him, either, it will be an ok, i know what you are here for, resignation accepted now pis£ off, down the phone.

  170. 749
    Mr Christopher says:

    Who could supplant Brown but a bigger villain than Brown himself?

    Will Mandelson declare himself President for Life now that the Broonbunker is all but over-run, the demented Leader still sending out orders to party cadres which no longer exist?

    There is no reason why the General Election could not be postponed indefinitely in the interests of ‘National Security,’ that last fetid refuge of the political criminal

  171. 752
    Jethro Q Walrus Titty says:

    Sputum … the Labour Party

  172. 754
    AfterEverySentenceILetMyJawDrop says:

    Hmm, anyone else think the BBC are sending coded messages by mysteriously running a huge puff on the website front page reading “Get Up for James Brown”? Its accompanied by a pic of the singer, James Brown, and not the man who bust Britain, James Gordon Brown.

  173. 758
    Sunonmars says:

    Scotsman on Sunday saying Brown has been given 5 weeks and if they do badly in the elections on June 4th, he will be removed…my response, why wait, we all know its going to be catastrophic, so save us the effort and call a GE for the same day.

    http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/uk/Brown-given-five-weeks-to.5230266.jp

  174. 761
    Mr Christopher says:

    Even the medals dished out to ennoble New Labour’s illegal war have turned out to be fraudulent:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/army-launches-investigation-into-false-medal-citations-1678117.html

  175. 763
    Sunonmars says:

    Ok its in every sodding paper, so tomorrow could be the fatal blow for Brown, if we see lack of support and a trot out of backstabbers then he’s gone by Monday Morning.

    The Express on Sunday

    LABOUR MPS SEEK NEW LEADER TO AVERT ‘LANDSLIDE’ DEFEAT

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/98607/Labour-MPs-seek-new-leader-to-avert-landslide-defeat

    HEALTH Secretary Alan Johnson is being lined up to act as emergency Prime Minister amid growing concerns among Labour MPs about Gordon Brown’s state of mind.

    The 58-year-old could take over as an interim measure if Mr Brown quits for the sake of his own health after an expected meltdown at next month’s local and European polls.

    On Brown : One minister said: “The guy can’t be well. People are very worried about him and, to be honest, he’s got to be worried about his health and welfare himself. He must be considering going.”

    A senior Labour MP, who has been loyal to both Mr Blair and Mr Brown, said: “We need to find an easy way to make him go away.
    …………………………………

    However i do not accept that they can continue on without a GE, no way will the public accept it.

    Johnston however i dont think will touch this with a bargepole.

    • 771
      Rob says:

      We can all dream but the reality is you would only get brown out of Downing Street in a strait jacket. Nice thought though.

    • 772
      Lord Mandelbaum of Spin-Cash says:

      Even with mine !?

    • 776
      Lord Mandelbaum of Spin-Cash says:

      Actually I have just read the Express article…

      Apparently “Senior Labour sources” (i.e. me) are worried about the old fart’s “state of mind”, I thought this concern was limited to those Tory Toffs who read that awful Guido Fawkes’ blog..But yet again they seem to have seen the truth years before others…and we really are into the “Madness of George III” (which Charles Bigears was always worried about…perhaps it is catching like the Mexican flu…)

      And there is an item in this Express article which annoys me considerably…as cynical as I am…it speaks of Alan Johnson being the “Golden Wand” to save the labour party from total meltdown… Now when I briefed the Express I spoke about MY Golden Wand…not his…this is lese majesté….I am the only person with a golden wand and I want you all to know it…

      It is bedtime so I going off for a Brazilian snoggle before the fun and games tomorrow…

      PS Don’t forget to buy my wheel barrows…Hyper inflation will arrive soon…

    • 798
      St George Rampant says:

      All this hand wringing by these New(?) Labour ministers is reminiscent of the Germans after losing WW2; let’s face it, they were all quite happy when they were winning weren’t they ?

    • 848
      Babar was a very poorly baby elephant says:

      The Saviour ?
      Alan Johnston ?
      THE Alan Johnston ?
      I mean, really ,… Alan Johnston the ex postie ?
      Alan Johnston.
      OMG.
      The whole party has gone mental.

  176. 765
    The Beast Of Clerkenwel says:

    comment at 12:49
    Gordon Brown is a huge puff

  177. 770
    Mr Christopher says:

    The Express article is wonderful, but why has it taken the media so long to realise what more enlightened folk have been saying for several years now -

    that Brown is clearly insane – quite possibly criminally insane – and should be taken into some form of pschychiatric custody as a potential danger to himself and others?

    Unless he be removed immediately, who knows what mad orders or promises to foreign governments he might give in the dying convulsions of his rule?

    • 774
      Lord Mandelbaum of Spin-Cash says:

      I would advise taking the nuclear button/bottom away from him at the least….

  178. 784
    Canary Wharf Rat says:

    Arn’t Bank Holidays wonderful!!!!

  179. 785
    Mr Christopher says:

    No wonder Brown’s former teaching colleagues at Glasgow College of Technology recall that he was nicknamed “The Evil Eye” and “Son of Cyclops” by students!

  180. 787
    old labour supporter says:

    of all the garbage and oddballs who populate the Labour party there is one man — one only, who might retrieve the situation for them

    Frank field

    Old Labour
    Not contaminated with 12 years of corruption and spin
    English —— and knows it
    sees clearly the awfullness of the situation
    and uniquely can communicate with England , the one ( despised) part of the UK which is crucial to the success of any political party.

    • 792
      Canary Wharf Rat says:

      It’s irretrievable.
      The whole party is contaminated with corruption, spin and ineptitude.
      New Labour as a project is dead and needs to be buried ASAP to save us all from further disgrace.
      The press are touting “an emergency appointment”. Does this mean another unelected PM?
      Now the troops are our of Iraq, Where’s our enquiry?
      Can we have a GE please.

    • 847
      Babar was a very poorly baby elephant says:

      I agree.
      But he’s on his way to the Libs. Too late, your leader humiliated him and you lot let him do it.
      Welcome to the wilderness.

  181. 791
    Dame Celia Molestrangler says:

    Labour implode. How fucking delicious!

  182. 793

    What the papers say on Brown (he’s mad, they claim) Plus! Next public appearance has been announced!

    Never rains but it pours for Gordon. But he will insist on not going in out of the rain…

  183. 794
    Dame Celia Molestrangler says:

    Brown will go down in history as the only Labour PM never to fight an election – of any kind. RIP.

  184. 795
    Trough Mixture says:

    It’s all gone so wrong for McLoon. I’d piss myself laughing but I can’t afford another pair of trousers.

  185. 797
    Dame Celia Molestrangler says:

    Me neither. I have no sympathy for him. He’s a bully, liar and power hungry megalomaniac. My only concern is that his minions get away scot free – so to speak. They are just as culpable. frankly the lot of them should go. A third unelected PM would be too much. Their whole government is useless and corrupt and I don’t buy Johnson or Straw, the latter ini particular.

  186. 800
    Kelly says:

    Rawnsley says Brown described the Gurkha issue as a ‘sentimental issue vote’. He really doesn’t get it. The man is a disgrace, he’s not fit to hold the Office of Prime Minister.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/may/03/andrew-rawnsley-gordon-brown

  187. 802
    RavingMad says:

    woke up this morning to find Blears and Kelly taking apart Brown’s government and this expense fiddle:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6211846.ece

    crunch time is here

    Go Gordon and go NOW

    • 807
      Anonymous says:

      Couple of little yapping bitches. Wouldn’t want them round my ankles.

  188. 803
    Anonymous says:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6211846.ece

    Baroness Uddin on the take in a big way apparently. This filth make the Tories look like rank amateurs when it comes to defrauding the taxpayer.

    • 806
      Robert Maxwell says:

      More like Baroness Donein. If thats not fraud I don’t know what is. Where’s plod?

  189. 808
    • 810
      Anonymous says:

      Looks like the Express for one has the uncensored expenses files – so watch out any clever dick who tries to airbrush out the record.

  190. 809
    Ben Doon/Phil McCaverty says:

    Baroness Uddin
    We wouldn’t like to but Knacker of the Yard needs to fuck her Royally.

  191. 811
    SAve Brown alert says:

    +++ Brown endangered+++

    ‘It’s like clubbing baby seals, show some compassion please,’ said a No 10 staffer.

  192. 812
    It doesn't add up... says:

    Would Brown call an election as a Samson in the temple act rather than be dragged kicking and scheming from No 10? After all, he only has to ask the Queen (not even Mandy)

  193. 813
    Sunray says:

    Anyone see The Dour One wishing Ricky Hatton good luck yesterday? Hatton lost by a second round K.O. The curse of Brown rolls on!

  194. 814
  195. 815
    Anonymous says:

    Jonah strikes again! I bet the bookies love him!

  196. 816
    Going Fourth says:

    Labourhome can see the writing on the wall:

    “Campbell’s brilliant blog is leading with a story about John Prescott’s Go Forth group under the headline “Going Fourth”.

    Is AliC trying to dampen expectations ahead of the Euro elections apocalypse?”

    • 842
      Rob says:

      Funny that prezza used the phrase go forth.
      The full phrase in my neck of the woods is “go forth and multiply” which is a sanitised pejorative term meaning “go fxxk yourself”.

  197. 818
    Scallywag says:

    I see that Blears has started her campaign to retain HER seat whenever the next election is called.

    I also see that the inarticulate Prezza and the articulate, but decidedly dodgy Campbell have been resurrected from wherever they have been tucked up to say encouraging things about the party without actually criticising any of those in government who are not saying encouraging things about their odious leader. Since neither of them have seats to lose, one can only wonder quite why either of them have agreed with Party HQ to emerge in this way.

    The party is clearly desperate. Prezza and his new found friend likewise. Hopefully both of them will be rotting in the political midden with all the rest of these deadbeats.

  198. 819
    Agent 99 says:

    It is really is all over for Brown now. He the poisoned dwarf sticks the knife in.

    Blears slams Brown over ‘failures’

    “Communities Secretary Hazel Blears says the Government has been guilty of a “lamentable failure” to get its message across to voters.

    In a newspaper article, she said Labour’s reputation had suffered a “titanic battering” in recent weeks and warned that the party faced “dire consequences” if it did not re-connect with the public. She also took a dig at Gordon Brown’s infamous YouTube appearance, saying: “YouTube if you want to. But it’s no substitute for knocking on doors or setting up a stall in the town centre.”

    In a hastily issued statement, Ms Blears said that her comments had not been intended as a criticism of Mr Brown, who enjoyed her “100 per cent support”.

  199. 820
    Air Nokia One says:

    If there is one thing that should always be remembered about Majors government it is that in their last budget before losing power depite knowing it would cost them votes and probably the election still did the right things in that budget and placed the country before their own party handing over a good legacy to the incoming Labour government .

    This Labour government knowing this budget was sound (but constantly sniping anyway – boom and bust etc) then retained the plan for the next 3 years and then and only then did their own thing resulting in within 8 years bankruptcy of the UK.

    The final so called ‘budget’ by the Labour government two weeks ago was an opportunity to at least mitigate or repair some damage. Did they take that opportunity? No they did not and at the end of one off, if not thee most destructive administrations in this nations history the cowards did the complete and direct opposite to the Major government and placed their party before the country in a single minded attempt to save their miserable skins and their seats an action that will cost the UK for generations.

    They could have easily have done differently and as Major had done. For political expediency and just basically evil intent they chose to delay these fundamental decisons and changes and as a result causing more damage and effectively passing responsibility and the poison chalice they themselves created to the next administration.

    Good enough reasons alone why, when the socialist infestation is finally removed, the Labour party in any shape, form or name should never EVER be allowed in power again and no amount of Hazel Blears “stalls in town centres” should ever change that.

    • 836
      Bollocks to NuLabour says:

      The main difference when leaving office between Labour and the Tories is that the Torys only fu*ked themselves, Labour always ensures that they fu*k the country!

  200. 821
    Air Nokia One says:

    Air Nokia One says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    May 3, 2009 at 8:23 am

    Why Guido? there is nothing in it that will need moderating

  201. 826
    Opus Dei Kelly says:

    My barbed wire knickers seem to be working.

  202. 827
    mandy rice-davies says:

    “Those worried include his own ministers, who now see him as the major cause of their party’s misfortunes.”

    They would, wouldn’t they? Don’ t these people ever look in mirrors?

  203. 830
    Voice of The Resistance says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8031143.stm

    The way Labour is operating is laughable, so laughable. Blears smears Brown then denies any wrong doing, backstabbing and fingerpointing. Then arrogantly states that anyone who thinks she was accusing Brown is wrong. Well, that’s an opinion, love. And other people have opinions too.

    This is mine: You are a liar, Blears. You have a go at someone then shit yourself and try to cover your tracks in desperation to avoid the sack.

    Who are you trying to kid, Mrs Hitler?

  204. 831
    CivilWarsAreAlwaysTheBoodiest says:

    Its will be so fitting when this is all over for history to show it was the Ghurkas that did him in.

  205. 834
    Anonymous says:

    I actually think Hannan’s vid started the avalanche, but the Ghurkas certainly finished him.

    • 846
      Babar was a very poorly baby elephant says:

      McBride spilled Guido’s pint – that was McMental’s nadir.
      He was finished.

  206. 837
    Bollocks to NuLabour says:

    What a nice start to a Sunday. Throughly enjoyed spending this morning reading through the blog.

    LABOUR ARE FUCKED

    GORDO MUST DIE SO I CAN DANCE ON HIS GRAVE

    Gordo and the rest of them should find a cliff and jump off it

    • 838
      Voice of the Resistance says:

      We can but hope, friend. The end to this vicious circle will hopefully come sooner rather than later, then it can all start over again. But at least we will have some peace for a while, even a little while is something to shoot for. Like Gordon with whiskey and a revolver.

  207. 839
    Anonymous says:

    It ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings.

    Luckily, the dwarf lady’s been singing like a canary against Gordon, and that’s good enough for me.

    When even Blears openly says that Brown’s an inhuman moron in a newspaper article that she wrote herself, you really do know that Brown’s time as PM is now measured in hours rather than weeks/months.

    • 840
      Anonymous says:

      It’s very similar to the final hours of Thatcher’s premiership.

      The only real difference is that Thatcher didn’t hand over several trillion pounds of government debt, the worst real unemployment levels ever, and a state which was bloated to the point of causing total collapse in the private sector to her successor.

  208. 843
    Gordon Out! But I don't want Tone back either! says:

    I wish this hideous McLoser government would go to hell.

  209. 844
    Lizzie says:

    Gordon Brown is clearly insane, Labour is at it’s wits end, time for a general election methinks. Ferrets fighting in a sack is an understatement.

  210. 849
    Nigel Bowker says:

    Brown’s premiership is turning just as I predicted in my book “Boom and Bust” written before he became PM. Contact me on nigel_bowker_917@hotmail.com for a free electronic copy.

  211. 851

    Blears doesn’t get it, and neither do the rest of Labour.

    The message is all they had; there were no policies that worked, just tinkering that proved destructive and hosing money at the public sector to disguise the shite state we were in.

    They’ve been sussed. Their problem is not about getting over the message at all, they’ve been brilliant in that regard. their problem now is that no-one in his right mind trusts the message or the messenger.

    • 859
      Aethelred says:

      Dead right.

      nulab’s problem is in the receiving of messages.

      Mind you, it was nice to see her rapidly back-tracking. I assume she was given options about keeping her lefty snout in the trough, and chose the trough option.

  212. 860
    Anonymous says:

    People who have already been diagnosed (and begun treatment) as suffering from some form of mental illness themselves will have seen all the signs of Brown’s mental illness for quite a long time and recognised that he’s been on a downward spiral for a long time, his appointment/coronation as PM has sped up that spiral.

    His refusal to admit reality, making excuses for everything that goes wrong so that nothing is his fault; mindlessly and endlessly repeating the same invalid excuses over and over again; these are all classic signs of most mental illnesses at the pre-treatment/pre-diagnosis stage.

    There’s a big difference between trying to spin your way out of trouble to avoid political fall-out, and lying constantly to everyone to avoid admitting reality to yourself and others.

    He’s not just trying to avoid political fall-out from fuck-ups he’s made, he’s actively and constantly refusing to admit any aspect of reality.

    He needs a proper diagnosis and treatment, and should most definitely not hold a job which has authority before that process gets a fair way along. At his age it’s going to take a long time to undo what his own thought-processes have been reaffirming to himself over the years.

    It’s a complex situation, but I think it’s a combination of 2 things:
    1) Sociopathic character
    (unable to put himself into anybody else’s situation; no empathy; he can’t do anything much about this; it’s just how he is)
    2) Refusal to accept reality
    Constantly re-affirming his own lies to hide reality from himself and others which reinforces itself over years in his own mind. He can do something about this, but given his character it’s unlikely to ever be truly undone.

  213. 861
    Anonymous says:

    Polly says “… the married couples’ allowance that redistributes tax to the middle class”

    Since when were middle class people all straight/married, and all working class people gay or unmarried? What’s to stop working class people from being able to get married? Or is she saying that the married couples allowance would only effect people who have a job and that having a job should never be rewarded?

  214. 862
    Paul Revel says:

    I watched Oliver Stone’s 1990s biopic, ‘Nixon’, recently and was struck by a thought: humble, religious upbringing, bitter, brooding and paranoid. Fierce temper. Years spent jealously watching a younger, more privileged telegenic man bathing in the limelight of glory. Troubled relationship with the truth… is Gordon Brown the new Richard Nixon?


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