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Max Clifford says…
“Most people want to read nasty things about people, not nice things.”
DisgustedOfMitcham2 says:
Maybe if they really wanted to “decontaminate the Labour brand” with business people, they shouldn’t have totally buggered up the economy?
Just a thought.
sick sick sick
absolute Huhne
Let us not forget that this object also got his kicks skinning a frog alive and then making it jump. A slow lingering death appears to fit the bill but that would be reducing everyone to his level – just put him down.
What! was it really Jeff Hoon?
Many people on this thread are quick to judge. We know little of this man’s background, what made him the man he was, or the state of his mind. It is necessary to give careful consideration all the factors and circumstances of the case.
Having done so, an informed opinion would be that this Huhne should be skinned alive, boiled in sulphuric acid, disembowelled alive, have his limbs sawn off, and then, and only then, be imprisoned with some nonce-hating gangsters furnished with rusty razor-blades. For 600 years.
That gargoyle Sharon Shoesmith bears the ultimate responsibility. May she rot in hell with all the rest of the Nu Labour filth which facilitated a climate where social services ignore genuine child abuse whilst hounding decent people who want to adopt and subjecting them to a witchhunt because they object to homosexuality.
What a diseased country Harman_Filth has bequeathed future generations.
The person who committed the crime bears the ultimate responsibility, not the officer of the state, IMO. If you encourage the point of view that social services (or indeed any other government body) should take responsibility for what these fuckwits do, you get a load of whining ‘it wasn’t my fault’ responsibility shirkers who don’t see any need to monitor their own behaviour. And a bunch of troughing government officers who think the world would go to hell in a handcart without their meddling and poking their noses into people’s business.
Sharon Shoesmith is not a Gargoyle and there is no blood on her hands. She implemented a crap system which she had no part in the design of, instead of looking at that sytem and its failings the media chose to go with the story the government gave them. Sharon was blamed under which ministers direction? Ed Balls and he’s an honest bloke isnt he?
Use your head if she is so evil and useless why is this happening all over the country and not just in one area? The system is broke not the people in it and under this centralised government the boots on the ground have no say in changing that system.
Also Baby P’s Mother and her partner are responsible If you want to direct abuse, direct it at them.
My point is simple independent of the actual case.
If you take a salary to meet a specific job specification then fail to meet those requirements or make a fundemental error, you ought to face ultimate dismissal.
You accepted the position and responsibility so there is little point in then complaining the system is broken.
If you realise the system is broken then don’t accept the position and the salary.
It seems that there are far too many jobsworths taking the public’s money then calling foul when they mess up.
If the job of being a social worker or whatever “is impossble” then why employ anyone at all.
202 – she could have resigned. She didn’t. I conclude that she was satisfied with her terms of reference.
I think all social workers should be sacked; there isn’t a more despicable vocation that has been invented (oh, apart from politicians, journalists, archbishops, and muslim clerics). Anyone who wants to be a social worker should automatically be barred from the job. Any job with the word social in it should be abolished. Any political party that purports to promote social justice should be persecuted.
Catch 22.
I tend to sympathise with Sharon Shoesmith. She was probably in a position of responsibility but lacking the equivalent authority. She could have resigned – given up – or perhaps she was trying to make the best of an impossible job. Like the lads in Basra and Helmand, if they don’t do it then who the Hell?
202, Your familiarity with the gargoyle suggests some personal contact.
Haringay has just about the worst record in the UK of failing children. Shoesmith was complicit in the compilation of a whitewash report into the disastrous failings of Haringay social services and endeavoured to sweep it under the carpet
She has refused to accept any responsibilty and now has the gall to sue because she was sacked. I hope she is never again allowed near any public sector job.
having had to deal with the sort of vermin that perpetrated the unspeakable horrors that were visited on this poor child (not as a social worker) I can tell you that today’s social services are part of the problem and not the solution.
Hope he gets done in in prison. Piece of fucking scum.
Society is to blame for Baby P as much as any Social Worker I have not stopped blogging since I heard the news. It is unfair to blame one individual – it is society which must shoulder the blame.
Anna: “Society is to blame”.
Jeez!
Go heart-bleed and hand-wring over at CIF.
I agree with Anna R. It seems to me that Ms Shoesmith is an all too convenient scapegoat.
For all the problems, everyone is to blame except Brown: the bankers, America (where it started), McBride, Shoesmith etc etc.
Does this bloke take responsibility for anything or is he not in control?
Society IS to blame.
Who financed Tracey Connelly? SOCIETY
Who allowed it to happen? SOCIETY
WE did it. We allowed our society to spawn these monsters. We GAVE the politicians the power to create these bastards and guess what they did?
To quote V
“If you are looking for a culprit, you need look no further than a mirror”
WE have to change it. The 646 won’t. It’s up to us.
How well will social services work after Cameron and his assorted pricks have cut their funding to the point where they cannot protect any child?
450- Right. Because throwing money at problems has been working so well recently.
A large budget is not the sign of a fit for purpose service, that is created through good management and sound legislation, two areas which NuLab seem to have difficulty with.
I do hope that the “decent ordinary criminals” within HM’s Pontins provide this Huhne with the justice that he deserves, over a long long period of time, and then arrange an accidental death just before he’s due for release.
The mother should just be used for transplants.
The Penguin
Fun though the long drawn out death of this pederast and child-killer would be, it’ll cost loads to keep him locked up and kill him just before he gets released.
A quick knifing just after the sentence starts would be much more efficient.
Or with any luck he’ll die of swine flu and that’ll be one well deserved fatality.
I mean, killing one child slowly and raping another? This thing deserves to be slaughtered, and before he costs the taxpayer too much in putting a roof over his head.
Lets not forget what else this shoesmith bitch did in trying to cover up this despicable episode, when she lied about a decent social worker and got her sacked and tried to ruin her life by taking her child into care for whisleblowing about shoesmiths corrupt regime. As for the creatures who did the torture I agree with all the above.
would u really want to see ur kids with her bits in them!?
burn the fucking “alien”
Only way to deal with the likes of these.
Skin ‘em and burn ‘em.
Reply to Blogtart….The child that was raped was also on the at risk register, the ultimate blame does lie with the so called parents but some blame must lie with the social services who’s job was to make sure no harm came to the children, this is what an at risk register is supposed to be about.
If the social services have no responsibilty in the matter, what the f*** are they there for?
peel it roll it in salt and leave in the sun
Surely outside the remit of this blog?
Oh dear…
Another victim of Inequality.
If only the Left had got to him, and cared for him, and helped him realise he too was a victim. none of this would have happened.
GOTTA KEEP THAT ADVERT REVENUE ROLLING IN
richer than the guardian!
Give your toads a piccie!
(yeah I’m a hoon, but not New Labour)
So effing what?
On these occasions I am always reminded of the last Dirty Harry movie. When arguing with the DA’s office who say the killer who has by then be caught will not be brought to justice as evidence was gained against his rights and so will be released.
The statement is made through gritted teeth by Callaghan:
“His rights!?! HIS RIGHTS!??????! I don’t give a rats ass for HIS rights!!. Who speaks for the rights of (insert murdered victim’s name here), who speaks for her /him??? ”
The film closes with the ‘unlucky punk’getting shot dead after hijacking a school bus.
Afterwards Harry throws his police badge away. Very symbolic. very sad and look around us now today …the director knew it then. It is as true now as it was then.
Very prophetic I agree.
That was the first one. The last Dirty Harry film was the rather lacklustre Dead Pool.
I applaud the sentiments though.
Let’s face it, we have a government that oversees a system in which children at NO risk, who have loving parents are taken into care and (if they are lucky) adopted off. Whereas they leave children at extreme risk to be tortured and raped and killed.
I believe that there are paedophile rings operating inside some social services departments and they effectively have catalogues of children that they select their victims from. As soon as the child has any sort of innocent accident, or illness, they swoop and create a tissue of lies to steal the child and place them up for adoption to be placed with these paedophile rings. They use the secrecy of the family courts (even with the press now present, the Judge has jurisdiction on what may or may not be reported)
They have the power to lie and steal any child they want, with complete impunity.
Parents MUST have the right to publicise wrong doing in the family courts and challenge, openly and publicly, those unjust and and appalling decisions where good, loving parents have had their children wrongly stolen from them by the sick paedophiles hiding behind the legitimacy of state.
You people are so sad and so wrong.
When one is changing the fundamentals of a society, you are always going to get ‘Do gooders’ whinging about : the poor, the old, the children.
Social change requires sacrifice.
Look at the pope. You do’nt think his self-discipline and his conservative attitudes come only from his ‘Loving family’.
The clarity of purpose comes from his early socialist training.
The family is the enemy of collective social cohesion and effective government. Only when all childern are removed from the restrictive chains of familly life will a true socialist society be built. Be it national or marxist in nature.
Only the social workers, understand the real needs of the state. God bless them.
You must make sure the children are part of your system of control. If you do not, their parents will fill their heads with reactionary ideas. Defeatism and individuality will undermind the collective will. You must be hard on the young Loisf.
Get them early and make them the guards. Then they have a reason to be loyal. It worked for me.
P.s. The laundry is open again Schicks. They found nothing.
OH picked up on this a long time ago, pity Nu Labour didn’t
sick sick sick is the social work system the feet on the street work under its dead from the head up.. well done new labour what fine work
That would be 10yrs then.
You watch. In 5 years the newspapers will be reporting that he’s out on day release helping at the local nursery. I only wish I was joking.
Did you hear that? It’s the sound of do-gooders beating a path to his cell door as we speak!
Hopefully something very nasty will happen to him whilst in jail.
The cons despise a nonce. The Screws despise a nonce. He’s there for some time. I hope it hurts like nothing’s hurt him before.
The screws despise a nonce,but they fawn over them just to wind up the rest of the cons.I just hope both shitbags get rough justice.why arn’t these women sterilised.
Hang the bastard.
Agreed, hang draw and quarter him. Problem is Labour go easy on this kind of crime.
itz ‘iz yooman rites, innit?
I wonder why, Lizzie?
Hanging is too good for the bastard; he should be tortured first. Forget his ‘human rights’; the shits not human, so he’s got no bloody rights in my book.
He needs enhanced interrogating American style and visiting by other prisoners. His paper work needs to be lost in a lifers cell. Then when they are through with him – throw him to the dogs.
Now those are the human rights he deserves.
what else would you do to him? something involving a scapel? bit of rough fisting perhaps??
Send him to live in a muslim country. that would be punishment enough for anyone.
He’d probably get away with it over there. If a girl is raped in Saudi Arabia or Iran for example, she gets punished. It’s Allah’s will — the hoon.
Normally I am very anti capital punishment – but this is definately an exception.
Can somebody explain why it is a fundamental breach of this person’s (I feel unhappy using the word person, but bear with me) rights when he has committed such crimes when a potentially viable foetus who so far has done nobody any harm, can be killed legally in an abortion? Where is the logic?
Baby P’s killer is a strong living argument for POST-BIRTH abortion.
As a kid starts wanting to wear track-suit bottoms tucked into his trainers and wear a baseball cap and starts saying “init”, and becomes a chav, then they should be aborted.
Besides, if it wasn’t for the hundreds of millions of aborted embyros and foetuses, this world would be so massively over populated that the powers that be would have had to launch a global nuclear war by now to keep population in check.
As it is the global leaders of the climate change alarmism already want to reduce global population by at least 2 BILLION people. According to their own words.
The paedo scum will be out in 6 years with a soft-arse probation officer to find him somewhere nice to live and to ensure he gets all the benefits he’s entitled to. What a fucking shithole of a country this is after 12 years of Labour.
Sadly, this is likely to be what will happen. I despair.
…and probably with a fat taxpayer funded new idientity in case the poor love gets picked on…
pass me the axe dear, im off to do a spot of de-testiculisation..
Sadly true. You get more bird for sorting your mates out with a bit of puff than you do for raping children. Fucking disgrace.
Probably be let out after a few years and given a new identity in Australia at our expense naturally. Thanks labour for turning Britain into a cess pit.
lets see.. going rate for ‘Life’ these days is 15 yrs.. take off the best part of a year this scum has been in custody, half it means 7 yrs… 7 yrs… he wont even be 30.. fucking disgrace
Unbelievably evil. May he get all he deserves from other prisoners.
Let’s not focus on it. There’s a British citizen in a Laos jail who has been charged with drug smuggling 1.5kgs of smack and sentenced to death by firing squad.
She was raped in jail in Decemeber and is consequently 6 months pregnant.
She has not seen the British Ambassador for he has been refused access.
And was caught with heroin. That harmless life enhancer. Let her be.
Raped in prison? Check out the dates. Guilty is the same as its ever been but her rights have been cancelled. Her treatment demands repatriation. How dare she be raped in prison for carrying smack when we chuck £400 million at the National Treatment Agency (NTA), £3.2 billion at Drug Intervention Programmes (DIP) and £8.7 billion at Community Policing (NPG) (most of those figures are bollox – sseriously tho smack V rape & pregnancy = smack everytime thanks, hurrah! But i’m a bloke so i’m stupid.
Laos, smack, smuggling GUILTY! it ain’t necessarily so I’m afraid: Could be as innocent as hell
Anon
You’re a hoon.
“There’s a British citizen in a Laos jail who has been charged with drug smuggling 1.5kgs of smack and sentenced to death by firing squad.”
Aw…shame….snigger snigger giggle
No pity whatsoever. Drug smugglers are death dealers. Deserve what they get.
And if somebody raped your daughter? Regardless of the number of brain cells floating round in her head I’m sure her father would happily murder the man who did that to her. I know I would.
252
Death Dealers? Yet I and your good host are alive. Neither have we raped anyone.
Well does she really deserve to be shot for smack? After all, it is our troops that defend the opium and heroin trafficking routes in Afghanistan. The intelligence agencies make WAY too much money from narcotics on a global corporate scale to have some regular armed forces ruin their trade.
The Taliban almost wiped out the Heroin from Afghanistan by the Summer of 2001. Since the occupation, the Heroin trade has boomed to record levels.
That’s truly, truly appalling.
Didn’t he / she / it get life for the killing of Baby P already?
They have not been sentenced yet, and I wish people would stop calling it Life, its not Life its a few years in a cushy segregated block, then a lifetime of benefits.
Life should mean Life in a fucking hell hole, chemical castration and put into general population.
Why *chemical* castration exactly??
Postle
Unfortunately, what it is not is dangling the goolies in sulphuric acid!
The general prison population maybe. They won’t exactly be kind and caring to him. Not the population at large – even after chemical castration.
In fact he should be both chemically and physically castrated and then put in to the general prison population.
No doubt it’ll get reduced just in case we infringe his Human Rights
*sigh*
Ah, but Boy Dave has promised to repeal the Human Rights Act. I will believe it when I see it!
He may have promised but I’m afraid he can’t.- No one can anyway contrary to the popular media it’s not the HRA that’s the problem it’s they way it’s being interpreted by the courts: A case in point is the fact that a privacy law is being introduced via the back door courtesy of English Courts something I suggest that was never intended but has now become so common place that we have libel tourists made up of despots & crooks from around the world using our courts to stifle any form of criticism: so much so that the US Congress is or has passed laws forbidding the US Courts from enforcing UK libel laws against their citizens
If it is an ACT, then of course it can be repealed. ALL acts of Parliament should be repealed. They are not needed. Not ONE of them. We already have all the law we need in common law. The premise being never cause injury, harm or loss. That covers EVERY eventuality. As it is statutes do not apply to flesh and blood human beings unless they consent. Consensus Facit Legem.
What a nice man. If this was Saudi Arabia he would be in the market square tomorrow for a date with Mr. Wilkinson.
Lucky aint he. Television, gym, play station, regular meals etc. etc.
Dont forget the porn, its his yuman rites innit? Welcome to the newlabour workers paradise where he gets to play the victim.
Bath Plug Jaquie & Man of Straw won’t want to upset the Guardianistas. He’ll as likely as not get community service, cleaning the bogs at the local infants school.
Or will he be given a fast track outta there like Lord Ahmed of Moslem Mob rule? Liebour are total scum and have imposed their scummy “values” on the country. Purging the marxist mentality is going to be time consuming but must be done after the election -start with the NUTS teachers the marxist indoctrinators of the youth.
Actually the fucking KOONT wont get out cos Conservatives will be in charge & they wont be as shot as shite when it comes to dealing with scum like this.
The scumbag’s not been sentenced yet, Guido:
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8029499.stm
Amended – don’t know what happened there.
a dread to think how the red tops are going to report this. They’ll probably campaign to tack on a hanging paedos bit of leglislation onto “Sarah’s Law”
Anyway chaps im off to go and lynch a paediatrician
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4719364.stm
Go fcuk yourself you soft twat! We’ve had enough pandering to scum in this country. The pendulum’s swinging back to giving them a strong dose of retribution.
it’s like we have a justice system which doesn’t rely on pitchforks and lynching???? for some reason?????? wtf
I’m curious to know how you think it should be reported. Please enlighten us.
He’s one of those soft pr1cks who think that the offender is also the victim.
Sick pervert. Let’s hope he gets more than a few years with Bubba and friends in the showers
How long will it be before some idiots start trying to blame this on Ed Balls again?
As for the farce over the Ghurkas, there are only two people responsible for that cock-up and that’s useless Jacqui Smith and pathetic retard Alistair Darling. No-one else had a hand in it and those cretins who are trying to blame it on Gordon Brown are just being malicious.
Damian’s back.
It was’nae me.
Oooh, does Ed have his own rebuttal unit now?
The Penguin
Ooh look, Balls has his very own apologist standing up for him on this blog. Balls is, and forever will be, a total hoon, like the rest of NuLabour and their voters.
Balls, the testiculated stammering hoon, will be castrated for his still to be fully exposed part in the McBride/Draper porn unit.
Perhaps Ed Balls could get some blame for this because the Haringay whistleblower’s lawyer wrote to his department (where he’s meant to be in charge, innit) & also wrote to the then Children’s Minister (who reports to Ed, innit) explaining exactly how bad child protection was in Haringay & how kids were being put at risk & wonderful Ed did absolutely FUCKALL about either letter. That’s why he was so keen to hang it all on Sharon Shoesmith – so that none of the shit would stick to him.
Same way as he & another Minister reporting to him lied about how the SATS fuckup had been dealt with – again to avoid the shit.
FFS, if you must act as a Labour rebuttal troll, at least do so for an MP who has a shred of decency about him.
Hey, Yvette! The baked beans are bubbling over.
Surely people like this can never be “rehabilitated”.
Just kill him and have done with it.
Damn right.
One exemplary public hanging is all that is needed to cut the offending rate by the criminal fraternity by 70%.
“Thou shalt not commit murder” Capital punishment is only revenge. The criminal lives to regret his evil deeds only as far as the scaffold. However, a 99 year sentence where the convicted criminal has to work to pay his keep might be a better punishment. The rest of your life to reflect on your wickedness and having to labour to repay the debt. Mmmm… that has a certain appeal. Punitive and deterrent.
Agreed, but these kind of scum regret nothing, as with this current government everything is someone elses fault, but a life time of hard labour and proper punishment does appeal more than a quick execution.
Not as punitive and deterrent as the rope
Since you quote the book of exodus “Thou shalt not Kill” why dont you read what it say next ” and those who do shall be put to death” . This is not inconsistent if the correct translation is in fact “Thou shalt not Murder”. It is open to others whether this book holds any kind of authority nowdays but your quoting of it suggests you think it does,. In that case you should not be selective in its authority.
Yip – let them finance their keep. 40hrs a week minimum.
If they refuse or are unable to work, they don’t eat and we turn off the heating, lighting and TV until they return to work.
Nothing different from what we demand of the retired after 50 years of labour, in this NuLabour utopia, is it ?
Sorry, DM’s Moustache, but capital punishment is more than revenge – much more.
It removes the malefactor from society permanently as well as relieving the taxpayer from responsibility for keeping him (or occasionally her) in a degree of comfort for the rest of his/her natural, plus the costs of resettlement that supply anonymity on release. That represents a major benefit.
I would be wholeheartedly in favour of capital punishment if I could have complete confidence in the justice system.
However, too many people were hanged who subsequently were cleared. Too many people who would have been hanged if we still had the death penalty have been exonerated, sometimes years later.
I think it is time for a re-examination of the issue. Where a person has been convicted incontrovertibly for some grievous offence – that is, even more than ‘beyond reasonable doubt’ (lawyers on here could probably supply the wording for such a test) – I would support capital punishment.
Meanwhile, I ponder two things: the living hell that his life will now be, unless some humane screw carelessly leaves a ligature lying around; and the circumstances of his upbringing that could breed such a monster. For, make no mistake, almost any one of us could have turned out like this, given the right conditions. (Remember the Milgram experiments?)
If there is any justification for capital punishment it is as a deterrent.
Clearly, it is not suitable as a method of rehabilitation.
The biggest deterrent is the risk of being caught but in most of these cases the perpetrators are usually caught anyway. And I doubt this is on their filthy minds as they proceed – they do not expect to get caught – and so I doubt capital punishment will change things except to satisfy the bloodlust of Sun readers.
Even if he can be rehabilitated, why should we bother? This creep is going to cost us all a fortune for the rest of his life.
Humane dispatch and sanitary disposal is all that is called for.
Personally, in this case, I wouldn’t want to insist on ‘humane’.
Mr Dirty Rat
It would be a Friday, after prayers
I for one would cheerfully swing the blade although I would much rather sodomise him to death with a broom handle as he was flogged with a cat o’ nine tails tipped with fish hooks.
Makes you wonder what goes through the minds of these Hoons that “lead” us doesnt it when they think it uncivillised to execute vile scum like this.
How do you know death is a punishment?
Just because you are scared of the unknown doesn’t mean it is harsh or unpleasant.
We just don’t know.
Plenty of people are excited at the thought of being executed.
In their mind it would be a glorious climax.
The rational thing to do is to incarcerate these people.
Like Myra Hindley there will be no way out for him, other than in a box.
Or maybe are you, at heart excited by an execution?
Yes.
Make it a long slow painful death then it’s definitely a punishment.
Not excited but if a dog bites it is put down. Why should we pay for a vile piece of shit like him to wake in the morning?
That’s unfortunate for you, since it is the same perverse pleasure that led this evil man to sexually abuse and rape the young girl and kill the baby boy.
What does it feel like?
Once this desire has been consummated, do you think you will want to repeat it?
Your books were shite, and now you’re polluting the blogosphere.
The Penguin
Someone give him Max Cliffords number – he will be a celeb. within the week.
Fyodor Dostoevsky, unlike the man whose name you’ve borrowed you are clearly a very naive and simple-minded person. Perhaps life will teach you a few much-needed lessons?
yeah you naive fuckwit its simple: pedo=deth. a 5year old could work this out duh
Love, sex, power, violence, murder, retribution, murder, violence, power, sex, love
Life can be a heady mix.
Evidently you are enjoying the cocktail.
Try to calm down, exhale slowly and fully.
Leave this issue to the adults you are incompetent.
irony? on a political humor website? hang ‘im and draw ‘im i say
if God didn’t want us to execute people he wouldn’t have invented rope?????
Plenty of idiots tried to get Myra Hindley sprung
of scum like this , you bet I am.
He has some appalling choices ahead of him: Wii, Playstation or Xbox; plus the eternal dilemma of the evening menu, well, shellfish as its Friday. Must remember to score a few roaches for after lights out too.
Waste of time. He should be broken up and the organs harvested and auctioned for the benefit of others; all proceeds to childrens charities.
Who the hell would want the organs of that diseased hoon?
As has been mentioned, he will hopefully be dealt with by the other prisoners.
He should suffer, not be given the quick release of death, just in case there isn’t a hell….
yeah best to make it slow. even if he’s burning in hell we better get the satisfaction in while we can be sure
better to be safe than sorry eh?
Maybe we should just put him in charge of the soap
What a vile bunch of shitehawks read this blog. It’s like sun readers on steroids!
Why don’t you visit him in prison? I’m sure he’d appreciate some arse banditry
People here spell and punctuate a lot better though – and perhaps swear even more. What’s that? Public school? Ah yes, the “arse banditry”. It was public school wasn’t it.
Shirt lifter.
And irony. I told you.
You are a fuckwit, I worry when people like you think an execution of a child killer is less civilised than a justice system which does not deter it in the first place. Wanker.
Are you honestly saying that anything said about this creature is OTT. He raped a baby, and killed another. You DO get that, right?
Perhaps Tony Dougan is a paedophile? Or some soft-as-shite lawyer or probation officer who get paid to make excuses for the perverts.
he killed and raped a child thats wrong right????
so we should kill him ok??? its simple if you kill someone first its rong but if u do it to someone who has killed its right because it feels good? problems solved yeah?!?!
who would you say was the more vile, the person who kills a little boy and rapes a little girl (convicted of both) or the people who discuss what they would like to do with a piece of scum like this, do you have children, imagine this happening to your kids, how would you feel.
You fucking twat.
they’re both wrong or is this not an option?
Whilst I have no problem living in a society who’s legal system exterminates this kind of vermin, I detest the thought of living in a society infected with sick sadistic lynch mobs.
If it was MY kid, I would want to exact retribution no questions, but that would be a personal matter.
But some of the more rabid comments posted leave me wondering, just how thin is the line between the sick fuck in question and the sick fucks who get little Stiffies dreaming up their punishments?
All people are doing are venting their anger, do you really think 3/4 of the posters on here would actually do the things that are being posted, I would most likely put a few boots to the head but I am not sick enough to do half the things people are saying nor are they I suspect. It is quite reasonable for people to be angry about this, and when people are angry they say things they may not quite mean. My sentence would be Life with hard labour, no segregation from the Prison population, and chemical castration. Hard but fair i believe, he has forfeited all rights to a normal existance (if he ever had one).
I would love to hear him screaming for mercy whist being
torchered for weeks on end. We could run a competion
to dream up the most painfull method and try them all out
over several months. We could tell him every night what
we were going to do to him next day just to cheer him up
THE BASTARD
yo like borrowing more to sort out a borrowing crisis fookin hoon
This is a cross, cross section of society who watch broken Britain and lament. Our host once called us an un moderated focus group. Policitians should give their eye teeth to access the public opion displyed here. They probably wouldn’t understand it though.
Un moderated focus group = rabble
You trying to defend this Huhne? If you don’t like the decor, find another place. Don’t bother coming back.
The Penguin
if you don’t want to gorily execute a pedo you support pedos?
I think im getting there but feel free to correct me. to think all this understanding was just two bottles of meth and a mallet to the frontal lobe away
Well said. While i realise that the Baby P guy is trash, surely we can lay off the kind of rhetoric that would embarrass Richard Littlejohn. The comments on this blog are worse than the Daily Mail.
Yeah, The Daily Mail became utter shite when it started to support Labour.
And what’s wrong with Littlejohn? He’s the only good thing in it. The lies and hypocrisy of NuLab that he’s been talking about for years are now there for all to see.
@101
Then bugger off out of it.
There is also the issue of hundreds of thousands of tax payers money being spent on this vermin beast over the length of his sentence. Society looses out firstly because one of its little ones it taken away from them in the cruelest of fashion and secondly because we now pay for his keep. Execution is Just.
the baby P guy is “trash”??? Is that really the extent of your feelings for him? He’s not trash, he’s inhuman, unspeakably vile and disgusting.
Long live Littlejohn and the Daily Mail.
Hang the childkilling rapist.
Blame McRuin and his shite ministers for the deeply perverted society he has engineered to meet his own miserabilist marxist agenda.
Hang him too.
Anyone convicted of a crime like this should sit on a shaft of splintered bamboo until after a few days it eases itself into the heart dear. Perhaps we can make some money for charity by charging the public to pat the animal on the head, but not to hard mind.
dont stop there i’m just getting hard
“Sun” has a capital S when one is referring to the organ of that name
fuck off you twat
“What a vile bunch of shitehawks read this blog”
Millions of us. And we’re all starting our own blogs. Sleep well.
hope-the sun–gets the inside story on this sub-human
If he gets swine flu, the Daily Mail could detonate.
Well, you’re not often wrong fellers, but on this one I tend towards the soggy soft as shite lefty perspective – no to capital punishment, even for stuff like this. Not because it’s immoral or makes us as bad as him etc, or all that other shit, but simply because of the possibility of error – there is almost always the possibility of error. And you cannot say sorry to a corpse.
Now, for obvious treason that’s a different matter….
There would be no error in this case, the perverted piece of shit is bang to rights!
But you don’t really know that, because you didn’t see it with your own eyes as it happened.
For all you know he could have been convicted using planted evidence and it could have been expedited by a government/police who just wanted to put someone away so that they could improve their clean-up rates, and the witnesses could have just had a personal grudge against him for keying their car, or maybe he had an evil twin.
In this case I don’t think that’s true, but any of those (and many other) things could be true, and that’s the whole point.
There are just too many variables that can lead to the wrong person being convicted; no conviction is ever 100% safe/reliable.
I’m with frank on this one, because it’s almost never that there’s a 100% certainty of no errors being made.
Get a good prosecutor for the CPS (albeit they are very rare indeed, I grant you that), a crap defence barrister, a lazy media, and potentially you could easily hang the wrong person, and that would in turn make you a nazi scumbag.
The solution is simple; life should mean life and not just a few years, there should be no such thing as early release, conditions inside should be extremely sparse, and nobody else inside (including the guards) should be allowed to have any verbal/physical contact with them.
If life in prison actually meant life ( till death), this thread would be much smaller. The sense of justice denied is what drives a lot of these comments
Better one accidental topping rather than 100 sub humans live…
Though a s a softy I go for a proper long drop, nice and civilised like
That’s the problem though isn’t it. One accidental, later you find it wasn’t so much accidental as lazy coppers, or bent coppers, or being coloured without due care and attention. The 1 vs 100 argument is great until the 1 is someone you give a shit about.
In order for you all to protect civilisation and bang on about civilised behaviour you first have to be civilised. Even when it’s difficult and animalistic emotion screams for vengeance. That’s the real difference between the “us” and the “them”. Control of animal tendencies. Give in and behave like one, on whatever level and you’re in with the “them” camp…
Crippen was wrongly convicted
“treason” – that’s McSnotty Bruin alrighty….
At least they cannot soften his sentence because he “co-operated by pleading guilty, the Huhne made the little girl go through the ordeal of a video trial. And the mother, up to her neck in it, but gets found not guilty yet again.
often the mothers collude or at least turn a blind eye to this sort of abuse…unbelievable.
Sadly, you are right.
it still abusei aint into capitol punishment but i feel sick thinking about what da little kids went though fook must of been hell no punishment is to good to kill him he doesnt suffer but to let him rot in jail cost 40k a year its so fooked up ??????
tony dougan???
Two new polls due out this evening
Populus Con 47, Lab 24, Lib 21
ICM Con 47, Lab 25, Lib 20
Bollox you liar. That’s just some posters guess on: http://politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2009/05/01/why-did-313-labour-mps-ignore-this-polling/#comments
Have a good weekend, Gordo!!
The poll troll has struck again.
Execution is far too kind for a man (I use the word loosely) like that.
I’d like to see his crime tattooed on his face – he’d do well labelled ‘Child Rapist’ and ‘Child Killer’ for all to read for the rest of his life.
I hope when he/they are sentenced on 21/22 May that they will be formally named and their photographs will appear everywhere on the web and in the press so that if/when they do get let out they can be identified – it’s scandalous that they are still,even after being finally convicted today, being protected by this secrecy.
Check Old Holborn’s back catalogue. Or mine.
The Penguin
Thanks. Interesting site.
its to protect the identity of the children, not him though…identifying him would lead to identification of him
Its all beginning to crescendo on Brown, so today, i make it, Blunkett, Clarke, Livingstone, Marshall-andrews, McFall, Gibson, Harris, who’s next to stick the knife in. Seriously this is bad, the mp’s are no longer remaining silent, its open season on Brown.
The best quote comes from Bob Marshall-Andrews in Simon Carr’s column in the Independent.
“He’s had it. He’s finished. The prime minister is complete blown chaff,” Bob said. “All my colleagues think so too. For the first time in my life I’ve seen them united. They are united in despair.”
Bob Marshall-Andrews has always defended the PM in our conversations over the years. He’s turned aside my nasty insinuations. Told me what a good man Gordon is, fundamentally, a decent man. This is quite a change of mood. “You don’t want your name attached to these remarks, I take it?”
“God, yes!”
So there we are.
I remember the last three years of John Major’s premiership and stories about his party losing faith in him became – rightly – a regular feature of political news coverage. These stories often featured on-the-record comments from the “usual suspects” because the people who mattered did not want to be quoted. The same thing is happening again now. Brown doesn’t need to worry about Marshall-Andrews, Livingstone or Clarke. But he does need to worry that they are getting airtime because the media has decided they have got a point.
There’s another type of story that crops up when a leader is in trouble and, from the Press Association news wire, I see that we’re getting one of these this evening. Harriet Harman “will call for party unity in a speech in Scotland tonight”. This is confirmation that things really are pretty bad; politicians don’t appeal for unity when it already exists.
Ken Livingstone: “I wouldn’t bet my own money on Labour winning…The thing that is a weakness for Brown at the moment, his most fervent supporters, people like Bob Marshall-Andrews, who’ve all been saying ‘when he gets in he’ll blossom, he will be great’, now saying he has had it, he’s finished and Bob Marshall-Andrews saying he doesn’t find anyone who, I mean, all the party is united in thinking we’re doomed”.
Even one friend and ally, Treasury select committee chairman John McFall, called for “long-term vision” from the premier.
“All the party is united in thinking we’re doomed.”
Labour MP Tom Harris said: “I am not going to insult your intelligence and pretend things are not bad in the Parliamentary Labour Party. They are as bad as they’ve ever been.”
Backbencher Ian Gibson told ITV News: “When things were bad for Tony Blair, he had the charisma to get out of it. Everything for Brown just falls flat.”
Brown is dead man walking. Everyone in the Labour Party now knows he will be dumped after the June elections. They are already sorting out a caretaker to take over until the next GE.
Labour Party branch sec.
well I can see it, Usually when you rally round behind the PM when he’s in trouble but now its just, they are all saying it, you dont do this if you expect someone to stick around, its announcing to the rest of the party, you know what needs to be done, now do it. It won’t be long. Harman having to call for unity tonight usually means just the opposite, she’s playing pretense, she knows the score.
Harman is working hard to dump Brown as are many other ministers and senior people. They will strike in June.
LP branch sec.
Oooh. The people like a big royal occasion. Are Labour going to provide us with a new queen?
Music to my ears. I think a nice cold bottle of Chenin Blanc is called for – might be a pleasant weekend. The Sundays may be interesting this week as they all fight to put the knife in. Happy days.
Its called Jockeying for position, Blunkett is right, it is civil war, I heard today the Brownites have declared open civil war against the Blairites for what they have done in the last few days. Its only just begun, grab the popcorn and jump down on the sofa.
Brown is going nowhere because he is a PSYCHOPATH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist-Revised_(PCL-R)
PCL-R Model of psychopathy
Factor1: Personality “Aggressive narcissism”
Glibness/superficial charm: TICK
Grandiose sense of self-worth: TICK
Pathological lying: TICK
Conning/manipulative: TICK
Lack of remorse or guilt: TICK
Shallow affect: TICK
Callous/lack of empathy: TICK
Failure to accept responsibility for own actions: DOUBLE TICK IN A FELT TIP PEN
Factor2: Case history “Socially deviant lifestyle”
Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
Parasitic lifestyle: : TICK -NEVER HAS A PROPER JOB
Poor behavioral control: NOKIA TICK
Promiscuous sexual behavior: : POSSIBLE TICK IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THE RUMOURS
Lack of realistic, long-term goals: TICK
Impulsivity: TICK
Irresponsibility: TICK
Juvenile delinquency?
Early behavior problems? TAKING BRICKS IN A BAG TO A PARTY IS A BIT STRANGE
Revocation of conditional release?
Traits not correlated with either factor?
Many short-term marital relationships?
Criminal versatility: DOES WAR CRIMINAL COUNT?
Ones heart bleeds for Sarah. Hope she’s being looked after financially for the ghastly duties she (I presume) performs.
Don’t worry about Sarah.
She’s always been on side with The Party and her connections go back decades. She vwasn’t someone that Gord just happened to find !
It was a trade for her.
The “Whiff of Lavender” relationship.
To say he has a lack of realistic goals when he has succeeded in becoming the Prime Minister seems a bit wide of the mark. Factor 1 list loks believable.
I see HYS on the Beeb is having a bit of trouble with the posts about Blunketts comments,there is only about seven or so all day.
Perhaps tomorrow when three people sneeze in Rotherham and the headlines change
the IT “experts” will sort it out
Even reached Radio 2 news at 6, things are bad.
The basic premise of Labour is ultimately self defeating. They (allegedly) aim to raise the lot of the working class thereby adding to a critical middle class.
It is little wonder therefore that to counteract this they have also created the pliant “underclass”: ignorant, worthless and jobless, totally dependent on a Labour government who alone will drip-feed them benefits, crisps & fags, Jeremy Kyle – woteva – knowing there’s a vote there if precious little else.
And to keep the flock in check a horde of well paid frontline services are required (see Guardian job pages). Again all Labour voters; but again all subsidised by those who create the real wealth – the despised private sector ; capitalists!
Somewhere in this whole cesspit of a pseudo socialist experiment a young kid gets buggered. My good God, give me a locked room and a rusty knife with the thing who did this.
My mam & dad, from the humblest of backgrounds, gave me a great childhood and an education. Because they did not sit on their arses and winge, nor complain that there were people better off than they; they took the opportunities given them.
I sometimes think that that generation is still holding the country together.
Agree, Dr Mick, with much of your post.
Socialists start off trying to right a palpable wrong. That is admirable. Then after enough cases of putting the world to rights, at some point, it dawns on them that they have created a dependent class which they can manage and manipulate. That is when the rot sets in. See the great Scottish cities, the NE of England and other centres where a Labour seat on the council or in parliament is a meal-ticket for life (though the SNP are bashing holes in it). Nobody whose peak earnings are around £18,000 (eg Gorbals Mick) and finds himself on £60,000 as an MP (much more as Speaker) can be blamed for going along with the gravy-train. So we get NuLab clones who are useless at anything but getting selected and Tories who have real jobs and careers and contribute much to the Commons.
NuLab has all those three-generations-without-a-job families living off taxpayers, occupying taxpayer-funded housing, unquestioningly voting Labour for fear of the lash of Tory discipline.
What this underclass does not realise is that it will come under pressure from NuLab that will exceed anything that the Tories can throw at them. The Tories will be sensitive to accusations of class discrimination, but NuLab won’t – after all, they’re ‘our people’, we can do what the hell we want with them.
The next decade will be very nasty indeed in all sorts of ways.
I’m certainly with you 100% on second and third paragraph.
Not sure that there is any working class anymore, or perhaps no middle class, I think they are as one.
They are all “tied” to their responsibilities, homes etc and are on the treadmill to pay steadily increasing sums through taxation to fund the underclass and the controlling public sector (which, if they are lucky, may be a part of themselves) .
With no respite or decent pensions available for the vast majority they are now destined to keep working until they expire.
If, however, they are unable to work, they simply join the ever growing underclass as a further burden on those who are left.
Hell, I’m depressing myself even writing this. I’m off to open a bottle of red – opium for the masses.
#311 Wow – more sane comment… must be catching in here this evening.
My belief is that a FEW NuLabour MPs are caring, but misguided souls, failing or refusing to understand on a Labour cultural basis that if you support and allow wealth to be created then most, if not all, of the population will ultimately benefit and prosper.
To do the opposite means desperation and poverty for all.
I hope the penny drops soon. We have little time left to avert disaster and if we don’t put our UK PLc in order then the financial markets will sort us out.
If this lady is right, not for much longer.
It’s an interesting, but very depressing lecture if you have the time. Elizabeth Warren rocks!
“‘Loved Paris Hilton, she’s so smart,’ says Sarah Brown after LA meeting of the socialist and the socialite”
‘McSnot’s wife must be shortsighted too’ – she must have been to marry him. Why did she ever?
The Brown’s marriage is simple a business arrangement. He needed a wife to dispel growing gay rumours which would have stymied him taking over from Blair. As for Sarah, she is an over-ambitious public relations professional on the make.
#99 Anonymous.
EXACTLY.
http://www.sex-lexis.com/Sex-Dictionary/whiff%20of%20lavender
Nice flat in Whitehall, Grace & Favour Country pile, huge gold plated pension, expense account, foreign travel, and apart from a bit of unpleasantness with a turkey baster to produce sprogs, no hideous sexual duties to worry about.
Not a bad bargain for a fat legged munter.
The Penguin
Penguin, having said all that – we still feel sorry for the woman
Comment of the week, Penguin.
In my next life I want to come back as a socialist climber.
Rick, please excuse me from that “we”.
She reaps what she’s sown. Remember she’s a party tool “very proud of her husband, your prime minister, Gordon Brown”
Thank you.
Penguin! That was so cruel – but unbelievably funny.
Loving your work…
what an ace foulmouthed comment – a tip to the hat for the penguin. it doesn’t get much better than this.
i know it’s cruel: but i had to laugh so hard, i spilled my chavski lager on the keyboard.
I’m not surpised by this remark after all this is the woman who “actually” married the one eyed snot gobbler for fcuks sake. Poor judgement just doesn’t cover it.
The only thing Paris Hilton is useful for is as a sperm receptacle.
shut up and show some respect to the abused children, one of whom has been murdered.
Shutting up won’t bring back poor Baby P but gettinng a conservative government might just bring in tougher sentencing for such horrible crimes and protect a few more children. Our justice system is too soft.
The shut up was meant for the political analysis garbage just above written by Sunonmars.
The sentences were short in the Tories time too. There’s not enough prison spaces and it probably doesn’t work anyway. As to the vermin convicted today, a hanging option may have led to his acquittal. Many people will not vote to take life so a hanging verdict isn’t a panacea either. And while it would be nice to hang the odd scumbag, we have a systematic codified legal system so everyone theoretically gets equal treatment ( discuss). Execution is barbaric. Innocent people get executed from time to time too, and its too late to find they were innocent after they are buried.
Best just leave it to rough prison justice and prey his peers do him in.
Oh I am sorry, i thought this was a political blog, so quite frankly go F”ck yourself.
you have to call them ‘tots’ or they don’t know what you are talking about….
This nonse should be killed as a dog is put down.
carefully and humanely?
neither
So Baby P’s mother was being tried for child cruelty at the same time as her boyfriend is up for child rape – is this child from the same family as Baby P?
Yes, assume so.
Here’s the information:
http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=117&a=1551
Not sub-judice anymore.
referred to as ‘stepfather’
Stop being so ‘populist’ Guido – stick to political insights.
Hear, hear – I’ll go to the Daily Mail site if I want to read stuff like this.
Cue instruction to collect refund and fuck off………
yep. Collect… and don’t pass go
I read about some chap who had offended a king, he was stuck in a cellar, fed every day but had to live in his own shit and piss for 30 years untill he died
The cellar was never cleaned or drained
NOW THATS PUNISHMENT
I bet when his shit dried, he was able to make some nice furniture out of it.
Did he get a playstation though?
Otherwise as his right hand.
But his tomato crop was to die for.
Mushrooms were pretty good too.
Your Dad sends his regards
The Huhne’s name, and this is a woefully inadequate epithet, is Steven Barker. Jason Owen who has been named is in fact his brother Jason Barker.
You don’t name the woman – is it known?
It’s not hard to find
http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=117&a=1551
Thanks
And the little boy who died deserves the dignity of a name – Peter Connelly I believe.
I quite agree. I can’t bear seeing the phrase “Baby P” in the media, even animals are given names.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8028775.stm
Brown knew about swine flue months ago, and its Global and Brown is on drugs, he is pissing him laughing all the time
how would you go about it; then chop his cock off and feed it to him slowly bleeding him out? or just straight shot to the brain?
do you like to see them bleed out slowly or is it more about the statisfaction of the quick kill?
Only something as vile as this can be relied on to keep Gordon out of the headlines – even for Guido.
Now we know why it was announced yesterday that four more social workers (including the deputy director of children and families Cecilia Hitchen) were sacked yesterday. One wonders if this was because by then it had become clear that this unspeakable beast was going to be convicted. Were these dismissals therefore a case of Mr. Balls-Ache getting his retaliation in first and would the opposite impression; i.e. that an acquital was the more likely outcome, have meant that these people would still be at their desks today?
you just wonder about whats the best thing to do with peados either put em in clink on tax payer expense or being burning process
yeah i also sometimes think about the best way to torture pedos. any tips or tricks to really finish the job if you know what i mean?!?!
the return of the death penalty!,….. now ‘ shut the fuck up ‘ all you piss-arsed twats,…. he would never do it again… would he!!!!… and l’ve not heard you farts scream one word about our people in Afganistan / lraq being murdered because of the George Bush and Yo! Blair …war
a twat that is piss-arsed? how dare you sir, how dare you
l dare sir, because l dare, and l use my real name, not my mental health
127 is a funny name. Are you a robot as well?
Oh! you have changed it to 310? Are you a married robot now?
Alex, go and lie down somewhere dark and quiet…
only if l can cut the cock off that fucking child killer, and l hope to fuck his next victim, when you lot of ‘do gooder’s’ let the fucker out after 10 years, is not related to you
why specifically the cock ?
Dear friends,
Gonçalo Amaral’s documentary ‘Maddie, The Truth of The Lie’ is now available on-line subtitled in English. It’s the full version of 50 minutes with embed/inserted subtitles – the idea is to post/share the video in as many places as possible, on the same day, at the same time, all together. The chosen date is 30 April, at 20:00 GMT[UK/PT time]. A suggestion for the title, don’t give the name of the documentary, use ‘The Truth’ or ‘Censored in the UK’.
Those of you who own blogs or sites you can copy the code here:
The above is the usual size for YouTube videos. You can change the width and the height to fit your blog/site design.
A large size example:
For those who do not have a blog or a site, just share the video with your friends by email, the link to watch it online is:
http://censuredinuk09.blip.tv/#2046709
You can always download the video to your PC and upload it to another site, in case this one is removed.
Share it please, for Maddie, for Truth and Justice.
Thank you to all.
That was a party political broadcast by the Maddie Industry.
The incompetent b*st*rd in charge is now trying to defend the indefensible.
Is this the same Giancarlo Amaral (ex-detective) who was due to face charges for beating shit out of the mother of another little Portuguese girl who disappeared not all that far from where Maddie disappeared (though a couple of years earlier) so that he could get a confession? Yeah, I’m so likely to believe him. The only reason that c**t wrote his book was to try & make some money – or to divert attention away from himself – two little girls disappear – same detective on the case – in both cases tries to blame the mother after being negligent (accidently or deliberately?) re forensic evidence/closing the border….
Let’s crucify the McCann’s. Politics is sooooo boring.
No offence intended, but this is not really an appropriate thread for promoting a video about Madeleine McCann. Unless your underlying message is: don’t leave three tiny children alone in an unlocked flat in a foreign country for several evenings in a row.
That’d be a start at least. For a long time the press has only printed pap on the disappearance Madeleine McCann: mostly approved copy provided by ex Nu-labour Media Monitoring Unit boss Clarence Mitchell… Anyone who has followed the case closely, or has any connection with child protection, knows it stinks. Newspapers are running scared of libel. Carter Ruck etc There is no decent investigative journalism in this country any more. A few ‘media studies’ graduates sit on their arses rehashing the bumf provided by PR twat Mitchell and thats it.
If Maddys parents had lived on a sink council estate and
been the dole and left three kids under 5 to go on the piss
with mates they would not be receiving sympathy they
would have been jailed for child neglect. and quite
right too
I don’t think they get a lot of sympathy, if any. The lost kid does, of course.
So far the only people who have been identified as having treated this child wrongly are the ones that now want our sympathy and media attention.
Sorry – something stinks here.
ps. Of course the fact that one of them was/is a ZaNuLabour activist is neither here nor there.
I watched that Portuguese documentary last night – with subtitles. Interesting how Gordon Brown is seen from over there.
Tell us more, anon. I bet that documentary won’t be shown on TV here, because of the ‘political interference’ theme. It certainly wouldn’t suit Brown, nor Blair before him. We are going to get the G McCann ‘authorised version’ instead shown on Channel 4 soon, I hear. I shall be interested to see it, but fair’s fair the Portuguese documentary has been shown all over Europe so we should see it here on TV too. Why not a follow up Channel 4? Fat chance!
In answer to the question below: Part 5 of the documentary – which you can watch for yourself on the link above – is called The Disarmament of the Investigation. The subtitles state:
“The McCann case has always worried both countries political authorities even leading Gordon Brown to speak about it with his counterpart Jose Socrates during the Lisbon Summit. The British Press repeatedly attacked the Portugues Investigation. Following a reply from Amaral to a former British detective in an interview to a Portuguese newspaper, the Portuguese Police (PJ)’s national director dismissed Amaral with the Portuguese Justice minister’s support. Amaral states that he was told before he left that there was political pressure to get rid of him and to drop or archive the investigation.”
Policemen don’t like political interference in criminal cases, do they. Well worth a watch…
Glad to see some discussion of the Amaral documentary. I don’t understand why Brown has put political pressure on the Portuguese to drop the investigation.
There is something very wrong with the official story.
Over There ? Hold on, now.
It’s more than interesting to note how this lunatic is seen over here !!???
Why yes, come to think of it, it is that same incompetent twat that beat the innocent mother into confessing, screwed up the forensics and is now trying to make a euro or two to fund his retirement. He should have done a little waterboarding instead, doesn’t leave bruises and black eyes.
#366
That detective keeps turning up where children go missing ?
Mmmmm. Elementary Dear Watson.
Not that I’m an expert, but either he’s the villan or he’s Miss Marples in drag, no ?
Anyone who wants someone else to be put to death for crimes is seriously short of imagination. Life should mean life and it should be long and boring and extremely unpleasant, and everyday of the criminal’s life he should be made to recite his crimes in front of the other prisoners. As for those such as Hindley who claim they are “rehabilitated” and should be released, it should be made clear to them that they have learned nothing otherwise they would understand that their crimes are unforgivable and their only future is life inside.
is that it? or are you just pausing to find a tissue?
Quite often those who call for sadistic punishment of criminals are guilty of sadistic crimes themselves. If the shoe fits……
Some people deserve hemp, and not to smoke. It’s more mercy than they showed the little ones, and more mercy than they deserve. But I’d still pull the lever just so they couldn’t share the same air with me that we breathe. They don’t deserve it.
it’s good to know upstanding citizens still exist. if only more people were so keen on executions our society might not be so full of pervs and sickos
Perhaps he should be given daily psycohtherapy with Draper for the next 15 years
Shouldn’t that also apply to Gordon?
i think I’ve found Draper for you.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1175075/Police-launch-hunt-Wolfman-mini-crimewave-lives-rabbits-berries-woods.html
No doubt there’ll be a case of an abuse of his Human Rights supported by Harman put to the European Court all in the name of establishing a cohesive society, with diversity, equal rights, blah blah blah. Rid us of that bloody woman.
agreed. why the fuck would we want a cohesive society eh?
And provide lucrative work for that top flight human rights lawyer cherie something or other.
I would welcome it, I think the rest of the country would be in up roar, and perhaps then someone would have the balls to repel this truly shitty act.
“Rid us of that bloody woman”….. and all the rest of her gonad-awful tribe – the Socialists of Scottylandland
Nel its Slotgob
Cherie Slotgob is the name you are looking for
Thank you -you made me laugh – she is of course really awful, rather like gordon – (go on Guido I’ve been modded twice tonight is this going to be no.3?.)
What ever goes around, will come around!!!
Let’s just hope that this twatting cunntt gets a fucking good hiding…everyday for the rest of his sorry life!
a twatting Huhne? don’t hide your feelings tell us how you realy feel…
People have been busy at their keyboards today. Now @ 40855.
Seems like a nice weekend to sign an online petiton!
He should be waterboarded on the hour, 24/7…………….until he dies of old age.
Bring back hanging…
Actually i was thinking a lifetime of the SOB being repeatedly raped by some big hairy monster in a prison cell would be a great sentence for this guy. That ought to make sure he never forgot what he did to the kid.
do you fantasize about rape a lot or just as a treat?
are you being an ass on purpose because it seems like it and frankly all you trolls, if you wanna have a go at someone, put your name to it, not Anon, if you want to be taken seriously.
i don’t want frothing loons who are one failed relationship away from a hate crime to track me down and burn me like an errant paeditrician? for some reason??
what a lame copout.
anon 6.34
You sound like a nonse.
im not a pedo im a paediatrician? easy mistake to make i know…
All very well having Human Rights Legislation….. what about responsibilities? Commit serious crime and avoid responsibilities should automatically negate your human rights…..!! Its is called balance……..
No it isn’t it’s called revenge Anyway those demanding the revoking of the HRA should be careful what they wish for as they might get it just when THEY need it to defeat this reactionary & fascist government
We managed fine without HRA . Our system had adequate checks and balances already in place. Tell me one aspect of this unecessary cumbersome legislation which is of benefit to the ordinary citizen. Tell me one. !
once a nation of shop owners, now a nations of pedarists
mid 30′s white unemployed
on benefits no doubt
and voting labour
Well let’s be honest, generous benefits, and voting labour is right, because who else would encourage and pay fit young people to stay at home, have as many children as possible to claim as much benefit as possible and spend the rest of their time, ignoring and abusing their children, drinking vodka and playing poker on the internet. Labour’s policies have produced a venal underclass from what was once a proud working class. The best part of that proud working class is still there though probably not very supportive of gordon and his wonderful wacky policies at the moment.
I think alot of people don’t understand how a combination of
1) Political correctness
2) Human Rights
3) Fear of being sued
effects social services.
Fear of being sued means (a) social services basically want to contain the problem – rather than solve it. (b) Everything needs to get documented so little time is given to sufferers (c) children who lose their parents are not allowed to show give love or receive love because of fear of abuse (c) Human Rights mean that social services can’t really intervene (d) Political correctness means that children are socially engineered by social workers
The sad thing is that social workers don’t realise they have been politicised by New Labour – just like the police.
For me the number one thing children need is to be loved and be able to show love. If you took love out of anybodies life you end with with dysfunctional humans.
Javelin “social workers can’t really intervene” clearly you have never crossed swords with Social Services of late. Their trouble is they never stop ‘intervening’ usually when it’s not needed whereas where it is needed as in the case of baby P there’s little or no intervention
Indeed, they seem to go after the soft targets, not the real bastards.
If they can’t carry out their jobs then fine.
But tell me one more time why the taxpayer is employing an absolute army of people to be unabale to carry out any basic function ?
£20B of savings over 2 years. I’ve just found £70B savings in 30 seconds.
I agree with billy le bob. Step outside the law, don’t expect protection from it.
Human responsibilities is a fine idea. hang the Huhne.
So this is why the names of the hideous evil killers were not given out: – further charges were to come. At the time it seemed annoying but there was a reason behind it after all.
I really do think that in this case the evil inhuman criminals will get an exceptionally long sentence. You can’t fault the government over their action against the social ‘workers’ responsible. They have taken severe action for once.
They will not dare to give these monsters a light sentence.
All the names are in this link
http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=117&a=1551
Yes thanks, they may be, but is it wise to give out the names? For all we know they have done some other filthy disgusting crime for which they are to be tried. We wouldn’t want to destroy the chances of conviction.
Of course you can fault the sodding government. That lying creep Ed Balls tried to spin it that he had sorted all this out a few months ago when he got that bitch Shoesmith the sack. What Balls was really doing was trying to cover his own back without taking the real action necessary.
And what is the “real action necessary” in your view?
Fire all social workers. End multi-culti absurdity. Reintroduce personal responsibility and punishment alongside rights and rewards. Do away with victimhood, single mother baby factories and welfare for all. Get people into proper productive taxable jobs with reward for success and punishment for failure. Reintroduce parental control over families to include adequate chastisement (smacking!). Make headmasters responsible for schools, disempower students and parents, reintroduce corporal punishment and school cadets and bring back conscription. That’a a start.
Previously elsewhere I have argued to scrap social workers and replace with police and spies. And to make those with young children take their children for full regular medical checkups with qualified doctor. Some of what you have said is just trite soundbites of the sort that politicians come out with. It’s meaningless. How would ending “multi-culti absurdity” help to prevent evil native Englishmen and women torturing and murdering their own children?
It’s all very well saying get people into “proper productive taxable jobs” but you don’t say how that could be achieved. I guess you aren’t suggesting a Soviet style planned economy with people working in state owned enterprise for the benefit of the whole community? So what do you mean? Pay big business to employ the undesirable?
the campaign against the child protection work of paediatricians by the militant mummy squad will without doubt allow further cases of abuse to fly on without action
whilst many were quick to rant against meadows and southall, our losses will mount as cases eventually emerge
it should be a suprise to no one that the sister of a labour front bencher has done more damage to child protection than most – the Huhne i speak of is sarah “the liar” harman – check out nhs blog doc if you would like to know what an odious c*nt sister harman is
Perverts vote Labour but they can’t vote if they’re banged up in jail.
Not yet.
Just read up on her odious sister – struck off for 3 month for passing info to sister.
Bad enough, but as sister Harmann is also a lawyer, you’d guess she’d know exactly how inappropriate the passing of this info was.
Just another corrupt front bencher – but WHY am I surprised ??????
Harpersons of all stripes are odious hoons by nature and nuture
I’m sure others have made this point (I haven’t got time to read every single post), but why the hell haven’t we got a death penalty?
yooman rites innit!
Because the state shouldn’t be killing it’s citizens no matter how bad they are. What it should be doing is when they go to prison for life then that should mean life & a life of hard labour at that
It’s cheaper to hang ‘em.
We have… it’s just applied extra judicially.
You mean because they’re given Xboxes & Playstations instead of the well deserved tap dance at the end of a hempen noose?
Who on earth could you have in mind? It couldn’t begin with “Doctor” and end in “.elly” could it?
I’m superficially ashamed to be a Labour MP.
Can somebody please wipe the rancid gravy from my scum ridden snout.
Hello Gordon.
Don’t worry everybody…. I’ll be voting Labour in all future elections along with all the other supporters, MPs and ex-Party members who are ashamed by the Party’s behaviour, and total failure with everything it has touched while in government. We’ve always voted Labour, and of course always will.
PresHuhne has eaten all the pies.
The reason why our prisons are bursting at the seams is that there is little or no deterrent to commit crime. Policemen have become social workers, sentences are too light and prisons are too cushy.
Bring back harsh penal conditions, lengthy sentences, corporal punishment and hanging. Alas our mainstream parties are too soft and liberal when it comes to making these choices even when cases like this hit the headlines with regular monotony.
It won’t be long before people take matters in their own hands and vigilantes roam the streets.
Dear Mr Bastard,
There is one party that supports those policies, and I think the popular mood might well make it more successful than expected at the forthcoming elections. Please do not take this to mean that I would necessarily vote for the unnameable party.
I find that the morality of those who oppose the death sentence is warped.
They would rather we live in a society were in the absence of the death sentence hundreds of innocents are slaughtered every year, than a sociey which owing to the fact it kills a few convicted killers sees a vast reduction in the murder rate.
In short they would rather have 100′s die than a few criminals executed a year.
Dont quote America in response , they very rarely execute anyone thats why its such an issue when they do and thats why it doesnt deter there either.
It is a proven fact that the life expectancy on Death row in the states is greater than in some of Americas inner cities.
The Yanks cant even do this right.
I find the logic of the people who support the death penalty is lacking entirely – if we have a law that says to kill someone is illegal the state can’t then kill someone or it breaks that law and we are all complicit. Logic people not personal morality its the only way to go
I am however enjoying the original methods of punishment being suggested here surely its not beyond Guido to organise a competition for the most depraved idea where the winner gets a free trip to Huntingdon Life Sciences and an hour with a lab animal to do what they want with, the sad old right wing bastard might even get to feel important again
A report on Channel 4 news tonight interviewed a social worker who believes a paedophile ring is still operating in North London that has been around since the nineties. This was when Margaret Hodge was Labour leader of Islington Borough Council and scandalously helped to cover up the abuse of children.
Are there paedophiles operating within Islington and/or Haringey Borough Councils and their social services departments?
Are there paedophiles within the Labour Party in Islington/Haringey?
There’s a real can of worms to uncover in North London.
Perfectly possible I’m afraid: Paedophiles are noted for their long term planning in that they choose careers that will 1st & foremost bring them into daily contact with their pray & what better than a children’s social worker, their dream job
More info can be found here
http://thetaoofblog-pablothehat.blogspot.com/2008/03/re-massive-horrifying-child-molestation.html
Research conducted for a leading criminal justice journal shows that 97% of paedophiles vote Labour.
Perverts voting for perverts!
You want to see some piglets?
Never vote for Labour MPs you dont know
meyow weeoeoe oowwww owwww oowwwwwweee
did you vote labour GG?
I read that 82.76% of all statistics are made up.
BTW the link to Dolly’s private blog has vanished off Labourlost. sadly.
That is really nasty – are they going to try to keep him on the front bench? or is he standing down at the next election?
It’s almost as if the British liberal intelligencia actively need cases like this to fully fire up their righteously indignant sense of innate moral superiority over their less educated working-class brethrin… which just goes to show how fucking sad they must be. Oh well, back to Dharfur and chocolates in the Sunday papers, keep fighting the good fight…
“yeah you naive fuckwit its simple: pedo=deth. a 5year old could work this out duh”
Run out and find me a 5-year-old
PEDO! burn him burn the PEDO BURN THE PEDO
Not before he’s been hung, drawn and quartered surely?
You’re the feckin PEDO, you nonse. I bet you vote Labour.
#283 said “PEDO! burn him burn the PEDO BURN THE PEDO”
Your attempt at satire fails as it is based on the comparrison with Witch trials and the hysteria and false accusations these generated.
Doesnt work in this instance because this scumbag IS A CHILD MURDERING PAEDOPHILE or are you disputing that ?
wait he’s a CHILD MURDERING PAEDOPHILE? i thought this was about kittens and warm cups of hot chocolate.
in that case go wild and rape him to death or something?!? it’s not like it reflects badly on you or anything…
remind me again why we cant string this fecker up? The court of public opinion would be all for it
If we had the death sentence then this deviant would be hanged by the neck – extremely slowly in this case – until dead!
‘javelin’ is partly right but it’s worse than s/he says. For many years, the training of social workers has been so infected with political correctness and anti-discriminatory/social inclusion rhetoric, so beloved of New Labour, that most social workers are now incapable of believing that anyone can behave wickedly. It will take a long time to undo all this damage and bring social workers back into the real world
Redundancy?
That WOULD be wicked – well, according to the Nu-Wave of Social Workers I guess.
Re-training could be completed in six week. Attatudenal ajustment is done very well by most military training establishments. You just need the political will. Encourage fear of failure. Then punish it when it happens. Job done.
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2008/11/tracey-connelly-and-steven-and-jason.html
Photo’s of the bastard
Thanks for the link OH.
The banality of evil, times three.
What is happening to the mother? Is she in prison or out? What’s happened to her other children? Are they in care or still with the bitch?
I hope as part of her ‘resettlement plan’ she has a face transplant without an anaesthetic.
I’d tattoo ‘NONCE’ onto the c*nt’s forehead.
Let’s see how long the bastard lasts in amongst the population.
A PERFECT EXAMPLE of why capital punishment should be re-introduced.
Why should the taxpayer now fund the living of this absolute and utter piece of scum? Why should we pay taxes to house, clothe, feed and protect this sub-animal? Why, after the utterly incomprehensibly evil acts this utterly worthless and disgusting exhibit of humanity has committed, should it be allowed to exist?.
Ideally, his death wouldnt be as simple as just pulling the lever on a trapdoor.
Ideally, it would be slow, incredibly painful and just as horrific as only this type of scum deserve. But then, we’d probably get protests complaining about the denial of its human rights.
Never start killing people to save money. Once you go that route, the elderly and the handicapped are next.
The State does not have the right to take life until it can give it back when it gets it wrong.
Put him on a remote Scottish island. Naked. In December. My spies tell me he is an ex military man from Sheffield.
“Once you go that route, the elderly and the handicapped are next.”
Covering your backside again OH?
I honestly cannot believe you are trying to link the justice that should be emposed upon a child murdering peodaphile, with that of a pensioner of disabled citizen?
“Never start killing people to save money. Once you go that route, the elderly and the handicapped are next.”
Yeah, because a WWII veteran, or down syndrome child would really be similiar to the Bapy P scumbag?
I didnt say that people should be killed to save money. I was stating that quite clearly, in this specific case, there is not a single legitmiate argument to suggest that any person should work and pay his/hers taxes to ensure the security/living of scum like this.
The cost of imprisonment for these pices of scum is NOT the main argument for the death penalty but it does simply rip the piss out of the tax payer who needs to pay for it.
“The State does not have the right to take life until it can give it back when it gets it wrong.”
Thats a matter of opinion Holburn, such a statement isnt written in stone. Its simply your opinion. I on the other hand think the state as representitives of Society does believe that the state can execute murders.
Who is right, well thats for all of us as a democracy to decide.
We have to remember that nature intended children to be nurtured and protected by their mother. That is the absolute tragic failure of this case. The welfare state and its benefits had so corrupted her that all she did was drink vodka and spend her time gambling money away at online poker. Yes he and his brother were extremely evil men that deserve the worst of rough justice in prison (sorry I can’t support the death penalty because we can never be 100% sure), but how much more evil is the mother not to protect her children from these predators?
Guido what did I say that got me modded? havng said that – if it is offensive-I’m sorry I would say it again.
It is because u r a hoon
no u r
I aint no hoon!
I want to see them HANG!
its not right Britian is the place to be for kiddie abusers etc
Dear God its sick, I am a mother of 3 boys and them my life and soul
No1 ever will get near and hurt my babies I will do time for them and I hope baby P(eters) abusers hurt Bad
FAG!
Nell the morality of what you what you are saying in effect is:
” It is better that 100 innocent people are slain in the streets than 1 innocent man is wrongly executed.”
This notion that we cant effect a proper deterent as our system in not 100% infalible results in many many many innocents being murdered.
Sorry Nell but thats a false morality.
So we don’t have the death penalty, we could accept that if it meant prison for scum like this was to be locked up in a tiny windowless room for 23hrs a day for at least 20 years with nothing but their thoughts to torment them.
Just given basic food, no books or magazines, no music, no tv, no gym, no drugs, no mobile phones, no special menus at xmas etc, no computer games, no internet, no pocket money or luxuries for good behaviour, no family visits, no automatic release.
Here is an idea for the Tories – if you are sentenced for a term you serve every bloody day, the reward for good behaviour is nothing, if you misbehave they add days onto the sentence.
No, sorry. Locked up, for ever, yes!. But I can’t support the death penalty and I know keeping people in prison is paid for by us on our taxes . But the death penalty is not 100% proof, especially in these febrile times of political interference in the media and judicial circles. and even more especially with Brown/Balls/Watson/Byrne and their cohorts in charge.
nell you and me and everyone else has a much greater chance of being murdered as it stands than ever would of being wrongly convicted. Do the math.
It’s simple utilitarianism – the greatest good for the greatest number.
Yes, if we had the death penalty, occasionally an innocent person would get strung up. But with the current system most murderers get out early, and don’t serve many years anyway. Many of them do it again – result: innocent people die (in greater numbers). Add on the cost of keeping scum alive on my and your money, and it just doesn’t add up.
There are also other factors, such as in this case, any children that come in contact with these evil people and survive, will themselves be warped and will be damaged (and possibly criminal) forever. Any offspring they have that survive will have the same genes as these evil people and also the worst possible upbringing. How are they going to turn out?
The logical conclusion is to execute them as soon as possible.
that’s exactly how utilitarianism works. well done.
OT
Six Tory vote riggers have been sent to jail at Reading Crown Court.
good
Billy agreed fully
but why is it only ever Tories that go to jail while labour do virtually anything an get away scott free??
Because Liebour are in charge and they can do what they bloody want, that’s until next year,besides when have Liebour ever done the honest thing and sacked themselves for being caught doing a bit of corruption.
What about all the thousands of muslim postal votes rigged for Labour in Birmingham, Blackburn, Burnley and elsewhere?
As comment 363
Good. Now what’s the latest on Labour postal vote fraud in preparation for both the EU elections & the GE next year?
You will have to forgive me I forgot to bring my runes home from work today.
More evidence that the social underclass shouldn’t be allowed to breed.
No they shouldn’t be FINANCED to breed
There simply shouldn’t be a “social underclass”. It has been allowed to exist because it feeds off the welfare state and therefore will always and only vote Labour.
Except that the lazy fuckers are too idle to tear themselves away for the tele to actually vote.
Fucking chavs. There was no such thing before Blair came to power.
Just as important – even if they don’t vote for Labour (being too lazy, drunk and apathetic), they won’t vote against Labour either. Sorted.
The social underclass don’t vote. They think Democracy is a gameshow on UK Living.
Oh yes they do.
The NuLabour activists turn up at their doors on election day and ferry them to/fro the election station.
oh yes they do. Big Brother and Pop Idol
Death penalty please.
Not until the State can bring you back when it fucks up. Or are you saying the State never fucks up?
I am sure Gordon never fucks up.
Sadly OH, no system is perfect.
Peter Connolly was extreme enough to justify it for mine.
I do fall into the camp that innocent people have lost their lives due to the liberalisation of the criminal justice system and you can’t get more innocent than a nipper.
Liberty itself should be based on individual freedom, such that if someone takes that away through death or assault, then they have to pay with their liberty in an appropriate manner. If we look at what happened to Gary Newlove, too many were involved for the blame to be attributed on one person. With respect to ‘lord’ Ahmed and his death-by-texting, much as I could live with one less political parasite, the best outcome was manslaughter. But where was the appropriate sentence? We do make mistakes, tis human nature after all and I’m all for rehabilitation, but in this instance, no.
Edward Coke commenting on the Glorious Revolution said that the law should be for everybody and not the select few or to protect an elite/client electorate as we see now. If we are to rebuild civilised society and the economy then I can see no option but to place liberty at the very foundation. Milton Friedman also stated that ‘a society that puts equality ahead of freedom will end up with neither equality or freedom,’ (he also said appositely ‘we have a system that increasingly taxes work and subsidises nonwork’). I can imagine that he studied the Industrial and American Revolutions looking at the work of Adam Smith, Edmund Burke and Thomas Jefferson through to von Mises and Hayek, to see a paragon of political philosophy – let people be free, let markets work. There should thus be huge penalties for those (including government) who take away freedom or the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in the case of the Declaration of Independence. The death penalty therefore sends a signal and a deterrent for the most extreme cases that the liberty of the individual is paramount.
Old Holburn you are in fact saying you would rather live in a society were more innocent people are being slaughtered on a daily basis up and down the country as we do at the moment rather than institude the death penalty were -even in the worse case senario- a few miscarraiges may occur but overall much much more life is spared. Your logic is flawed mate.
More innocents have more need to fear being murdered as it stands at the moment than ever would even with a flawed( as all systems are) death penalty system,
OH, I often agree with you, but what is the greater fuckup? To occasionally top the wrong bloke, or to allow every single murderer to walk free (and often murder again) after a few years.
I would dearly love to see figures for :
1) Innocent people being hanged by mistake
2) Innocent people being killed by murderers who have been released.
I would bet my house that number 2 is at LEAST 10 times number 1.
OH is right. It is not for the state to take life. As a society we need to try to protect ourselves from those who offend against our norms, but there is no perfect system as we can never be 100 percent sure we have the right offender. Sometimes even those confessing are innocent.
Good point Mercian but perhaps the more telling figures would be
1. Amount of murders commited per year pre hanging
2. Amount of murders commited this year.
I think you would find these figures absolutely staggering.
What is also on the increase is the figures for the amount of murders where the victim is a “random victim” on violence ie a young ad simply walking through a town centre set upon by a bunch of ferals. These cases ARE NOT gang related. They could be your sons.
They abolished the death penalty on the promose that life would mean life, now life means **** all and what counts is the so called minimium sentence which is anything from 5 to 15 years. Hardly ever more than this. The erosion continues.
Political meddling in the McCann case – Brown gets a special mention
http://censuredinuk09.blip.tv/#2046709
Perhaps he just wanted rapid preferential medical treatment in the same way Myra Hindley got it for her self-inflicted cancer, rather than gamble with new labours postcode lottery like decent folk have to?
I don’t think a death sentence is required. Or even Life Without Parole.
What I think is required, and is a quantum leap ahead of where we are now is simply this. When the judge says ‘Serve 20 years’ [and this is lenient for this case, but bear with me] the person actually serves 7, 300 days behind bars.
That’s Seven Thousand Three Hundred Whole Days. That would actually be achievable, not require any additional legislation and would overcome any ‘Human Rights’ objections.
Because all it is doing is saying ‘You’ve done the crime, you’re doing the time’.
NOT half or two-thirds or whatever. The only other alternative is to have elected Sheriffs and if the judges only want to put this guy away for twelve years, say so, and the people get to voice their opinion when voting for the Sheriff at the next election.
Electing a Sheriff would be far too democratic for the UK
It was reported that a “close relative” of Baby P was in one of the Islington homes as a child while the paedophile ring was operating and had given names of abusers to the police.
Why are we only being told the name of the lodger and not the name of the mother – and the boyfeind – why this protection of the quilty
As i said above, there might be more charges pending.
whats the point though they will make the sentences concurrent anyway so save the money and just make sure the first trials locks them away for so long the second is not necessary.
Probably so. But if he is already to be locked away for life what is the point except to provide more fees for the lawyers?
Well if your relative had been murdered by them you might want to have your day in court.
You’re right Virgo. A court case is a chance for one of Baby P’s of relatives to wear a suit – or a nice dress.
That’s not what I meant. You might as well get Harold Shipman for the murder of one old lady and leave a question mark over who murdered the rest.
Is that your idea of justice?
Perhaps it’s because he’s chairman of his local Labour Party branch and a close friend of Margaret Hodge?
Tracey Connelly and Steven Barker
it’s to protect the identity of the abused child. identifying him would lead to identifying the baby he raped.
Murderers and evildoers often voluntarily kill themselves in prison. It might be better to make prison life more uncomfortable and force them to endure it than to allow them to have a quick exit via death. Anyway that’s what I’d do if I were in charge.
This business about not naming Baby P.
Does it apply to contributors to this blog or is it only the normal press that is prevented from publishing it.
I ask because locally there was a case where someone was protected from bad publicity incase it destroyed his career as a serial public nuisance and some locals made posters and stuck them up, identifying the reptile. This struck me as a good idea, BTW.
The names (and photos) of all the low life scum involved in this sordid case are freely available on the interweb.
Just Google it.
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2008/11/tracey-connelly-and-steven-and-jason.html
I don’t know who else has noticed but when you get Guidos blog first displayed and the Baby P headline appears right underneath that is the photo of Ed Bollox and at first glance it really looks like the two are connected. I’m sure it was not intentional.
By the way there is something really weird about that photo of balls . The eyes sort of follow you around the office desk if you see what In mean. Sinister.
Thoght exactly the same.
When I first saw it I thought the caption was for the winner of the photo comp.
Ed Balls is connected to the Baby P case. He’s managed to cover his arse for now but he’s not off the hook by a long chalk.
Ed is just sinister
Rumour around westminister of a Labour MP defecting to the Liberal Democrats after this weeks vote.
Frank Field.
he was cuddling up to saint vincent cable earier this week. his blogs are becoming mor “militant” by the day.
i regularly urge him to change party through his blog.
he’d be a real asset to tories or libs.
good luck to him if he choses to do the decent thing.
That is bullshit – no rumours at all I was posting a wind up!
Looks like it made it to the DT though! The power of Guido’s comments section!
did you have a good wank?
Lets cut his cock off and give it to Damian Hurst. I’m sure he could come up with a good installation – maybe sell it for Children In Need?
the Arabs sometimes are right – you steal- we chop off your hand- you harm children……..
Nell, paedophilia is rampant in Islamic culture. The Ayatollah Khoemeni (not an Arab admittedly) wrote enthusiastically about the sexual enjoyment of children, including babies. Try looking up the recommended practice known as ‘thighing’.
He shouldn’t be kept segregated in prison. Chuck him in with the general population. See how long he lasts!
what has happened to Sharon Shoesmith, the Director of Children’s Services for Haringey Council? She was in charge, so she should admit fault. And report straight to Holloway for ‘chastisement’!
Let’s start a kill fund, I donate £2,500 to the inmate who tops him. Let’s call it a wanted fund. Paypal donations to kill_the_pervert.com
T Blair tough on crime tough on the cause of crime.
-F$%6^wit
The debate on capital punishment in the 60′s evidently misled parliament on this topic. How about a new petition on the #10 website,
We call on the Govt to execute paedo’s.
I’ll second that. Personally, I would re-introduce burning at the stake in public. Much better than the feeble ‘naughty step’ executions already suggested.
Carbon footprint ! Your not on message Slim Jim.
Stoning to death is fairly carbon-neutral, I’d have thought.
it’s got the christian seal of approval too i think! an eye for an eye an all that right! whose gonna dispute that eh?
I lived in Crouch End Haringey, some fifteen years ago, the council offices were just as dirty then, symptomatic of what is still happening inside. A dirty business, lives of the tiny victims blighted or violently ended and those who were paid to detect such abuses clearly asleep, but not asleep enough to take the money. I just hope they can live with themselves and if any of the so called ‘professionals’ ever apply for similar work in their lifetimes they will be rejected. May the guilty rot. That’s it, just too upset…..
The problem was accountability. Give someone with balls the job. Back them up, let them hire and fire as required. Reward them when they do well, fire them when they fail. Hang anyone that spouts marxist dogma and put the welfare of the children first. Like the British did when they were running these islands. Christian gentlemen, with conviction. Job Done !
I’m glad the bloggers might finally have realised why the Baby P scum weren’t named now. Personally, I’m glad that the case didn’t collapse because of the amount of bile being flung around by people who empathise more with cause-celebres than their own families.
When will he hang? Or do we have to wait for some scrote to do the decent thing inside? This is disgusting. We all want him to hang, so hang the fucker. Now. he must die to make us feel better about our country. Hang the Huhne. HANG HIM. NOW.
Yada, yada, yada, you’z guys can sound off all you like but we all know he’ll finish up like Ian Huntley in a comfortable cell with his own laptop and TV, we need guys like Sheriff Joe Arpaio, maybe he’ll come over here ? There’s gonna be a job vacancy next June …..
http://www.texasrainmaker.com/2005/06/04/111793349229233723/
The hate on this blog yes back to the 80s and 90s when thatcher reigned
Have we all got to live through that again
Heather
Why has this murderer’s identity been protected? Name him and let’s see a photograph.
This case reflects and fundamental problem that has infected our entire country and all the public services. Once upon a time public servants were guided by a combination of ethos and an often unspoken code of conduct of the organisation to which they belonged, They were left alone to use common sense, discretion and good judgement. Of course their were mistakes along the way but in general the system worked. If you cocked up you resigned and or were sacked, it went with the territory. Think about it for a moment, a few generations ago policemen nicked crooks, nurses nursed, doctors doctored and teachers taught. They didn’t need rules, strap lines, targets, inspections because in their hearts they new what was right and in the wider interests of those they served. Then in charged the poltiically correct brigade, the social levellers, the human rightists etc. Ethos, sense of duty, excellence and even personal responsibility became dirty words. They have been replaced by ludicrous targets, meaningless management plans etc. What matters now is hitting targets set by central goverments and their agencies. So we get cases where people like social workers focus on following the rules and hitting targets while under their noses kids die. Ditto the police and NHS workers. Slating the individuals in this case is not the way ahead, its nilhistic and low energy. What we need is a political leader with the vision and guts to fundamentally change the culture and scrap all useless red tape and allow professionals once again to use common sense, personal intiative and discretion. Bugger the rules and focus what is important which in the case of social workers is saving kids.
You have made many good points to which I would add that the emphasis of these Public bodies has also changed from Policing or Nursing to that of career.
Everybody wants to be off the front line and into management these days and to get into management you must pass interview panels designed to test your belief in the dogma of political correctness.
Thats how the placemen are positioned.
A good post. Clearly identifies where we need to get to. Like the old saw though, “I wouldn’t have started from here.”
I regret the culture of political correctness is so ingrained now that none of the current batch of politicians has the conviction that PC can be moderated.
A return to blatant discrimination must be avoided but the pendulum of correctness has swung much too far.
Hanging is too good for this fucker. Give him to a bunch of mothers with knives.
Let us get back to basics here.
To hang or not to hang? That is the question.
To hang-end of story. (or not).
Not to hang-then life imprisonment must mean just that. Life.
In this enlightened country we have a more than adequet appeals system and provided the appeal is of convincing substance then any miscarriage of justice can, and must, be rectified. (Think pre and post DNA).
So there you have it in it’s simplicity.
Life imprisonment, without remission, unless an appeal is upheld.
Why do we allow the judges to make the law in our country. Let’s stop that. The legislators should make the law.
Life imprisonment should be the norm for all murder cases. All this boll*cks about “tarrifs” needs to be assigned to the outer realm.
Murder conviction = life. Then we can discuss mitigating circumstances. But the idea a piece of sh*t like Harry Roberts is entitled to be given a “tarrif” is ridiculous.
Can we also -
(a) Stop the news management. How often do we see the most appalling cases like Baby P and the acid attack on a female TV presenter coincidentally always seem to climax on a Friday evening – so minimising news impact.
(b) Stop the nonsense of sentence following verdict a month down the line.
If there is a need to get “court reports” (social worker bleating) let’s have that before the case ends.
(c) Stop the sentencing fraud whereby people only serve a third of their sentence. Let’s have real sentences. Let’s say you get 10 years for a violent robbery come what may if that is your sentence – but you have an automatic add on of 5 years – and only good behaviour in prison will earn you remission on the automatic add-on. That way people can have faith in the sentence but prisoners also have an incentive for good behaviour.
I have read about 150 of the above comments concerning this appalling and depressing crime.
I have to say that whilst I can understand anger, I think that the relishing of all the suggested dreadful punishments by many of you is actually self-corrosive and doing you no good at all.
For the perpetrator, I take the view that there are already far too many people; examples like this should be disposed of promptly and cheaply.
A bullet in the back of the head, KGB style, would be economical and efficient.
Dark
as well above
you are a freak!
your sick!
But True
Bring back the Judge who has the Balls to say – where is my black cap!
Hang the Bastard and let every1 see Britian is NOT a Haven for baby/child killers or abusers!
today them in court – Dear God (if there is 1)
please make them an example