April 30th, 2009

8% of LibDem Voters are Mad

The PoliticsHome poll showing that 95% of Tories, 66% 0f LibDems and 50% of Labour voters think the Tories will win the next election is not much of a surprise.

That 8% of voters (who just happen to be LibDem supporters) surprisingly think the LibDems are going to win the general election suggests that they are either just extremely optimistic, mad or lying. Hmmm…


394 Comments

  1. 1
    H says:

    Well – everybody needs a dream!

  2. 2
    Rick the Roman says:

    Go back to your constituencies and prepare for Government!!

    • 52
      Send the speaker to the tower says:

      When the Guardian have a go, you know Brown is fucked.

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/30/gurkhas-nick-clegg-gordon-brown

    • 274
      angry french john says:

      So what makes you all think there will be an election. McBastard’s secret meetings with Mad Bad Mugabe, and his obsession with Stalin, leads me to believe he is planning his one party state. Why bring the troops out of Iraq if not to quell the rioters. The old bill are getting a bit of training to back up the squaddies, and there are palns to turn Brummageham into one huge concentration camp.
      Methinks your being a tad optimistic.
      It’s taken two hours to type this using my nose…I can’t reach the buckles on the back fastening jacket!

  3. 4
    BillG says:

    I am shocked that it is only 8% are they sure ?

    • 71
      Click Negg says:

      It is clear that 13% are certainly mad, because the survey shows that a further 5% of LibDums think Labour will win…

      • 367

        Don’t rule out Labour winning it. There’s an awful lot of client state voters out there, and they’re all sure to turn out and vote for their Hoonish jobs, salaries, pensions, and expenses. Well, wouldn’t you if you were an NHS smoking awareness adviser living in Middlesbrough, with no hope of a job in a million years if you’re sacked from the council?

        Plus, that’s the problem with democracy. You always get governments selected by the biggest bunch of idiots.

        And you’d have to be an idiot to vote Labour back in again.

        Hence, they might actually do it. Especially if they can bring themselves to ditch Brown and bring in…. errrr…..

        That’s where my argument falls down, of course. They haven’t got anyone else. Brown may be a McMentalist McNutter, but aside from Blair he’s still the best they’ve got.

        Crikey! They wouldn’t bring back Blair, would they? :-)

    • 228
      pigs in space says:

      With the Nick Clegg ex-girlfriend vote they may just do it.

  4. 5
    Icarus says:

    Or more likely are irritated by people ringing them up with silly questions!

  5. 6
    It doesn't add up... says:

    Isn’t it 100% of Gordon Brown?

  6. 7
    stepney says:

    Opik.

    Nuff said.

  7. 7
    Courtney Act says:

    This is taking Positive Thinking a bit too far.

  8. 9
    insert-coin-here says:

    The question should of been followed up with…would you put 500 quid on that?

    Is there anyone in the UK who would?

  9. 10
    Tin Cunliffe says:

    I’d want to know what Paddy Power thinks.

  10. 12
    no longer anonymous says:

    OT but I see Brown has bottled it yet again with the expenses vote or lack of.

  11. 13

    “8% of Lib Dem supporters” is a number so infinitely small it probably represents their entire shadow cabinet.

  12. 14
    Anonymous says:

    Crazy liberal extremists.

  13. 17
    Anonymous says:

    Just wot we need, a load of bleeding Liberals

  14. 18
    Liam Byrne says:

    I’m a Huhne!

    • 19
      Rick the Roman says:

      You most certainly are after your performance on the BBC News Channel – trying to defend the indefensible

  15. 21
    Anonymous says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1175249/Love-cheat-MPs-suicide-watch-expense-claims-threaten-expose-affairs.html

    Guido – who are these MPs and ministers? Forget ‘is this Dave?’ and get back to the real business!

    • 76
      Anonymous says:

      Seconded

    • 175
      Technomist says:

      Its all lies. Spin to pretend they would do the decent thing. They won’t. They have no shame at all.

    • 369

      If these reports are true may I make a suggestion, let them douse themselves with petrol on Parliament Green and light the blue touch paper. A further suggestion, Guido should organise coach trips so we can all watch and applaud before retiring to his favourite watering hole the “Westminster Arms” to quaff a few in celebration

  16. 22
    Cato Street Conspirator says:

    If I was in a party I’d always say my party was going to win. But as I’m a petpetual abstainer-in-person (I spoil the ballot paper), I do genuinely believe that we’re going to get a majority this time. Come on ladies and gentlemen, you know it makes sense.

    • 273
      Anonymous says:

      How do you spoil the ballot paper?

      Large amounts of chocolate? Trips to Disneyland?

      Enquiring minds want to know.

  17. 23

    The Tories are depressing business confidence and scaring consumers just so they can win an election. That’s not just incompetence but economic terrorism. So much for SHAMeron and his barmy army.

    • 26
      Rick the Roman says:

      Someone’s had a good liquid lunch – all that cheap booze in the House is not going to wate then!!

    • 30
      Billy says:

      Fancy using a name that appears on toenails blog that actually is a Liebour supporter shame on you.

    • 32
      Kidney Bingoes says:

      Hardwidge you bore, why don’t you push off back to Toenails’ blog where they seem a bit more tolerant of you and your crypto-Buddhist musings?

      In any event Labour seem to have done a fairly good job of depressing business confidence by utterly ruining the economy.

      • 44

        You are a troll. Why do people like you persist in having such a selective memory and being so abusive when you talk about people? You’re so stoked on arrogance and nastiness that you pile on more arrogance and nastiness in the hope it will make you look a star and shift the blame. This is the behaviour of a mad man who keeps making the same mistakes in the vain hope things will change.

      • 55
        jgm2 says:

        This is the behaviour of a mad man who keeps making the same mistakes in the vain hope things will change.

        Ho ho ho. Very good.

        You had me going for a moment there but then I noticed there wasn’t the full-on trademark Feng Shui and the spelling and grammar are a lot more coherent. But that final one does it for me.

        Excellent trolling Hardwidge-spoof. One Hardwidge is enough without you confusing folk pretending to be him.

      • 67
        Kidney Bingoes says:

        “This is the behaviour of a mad man who keeps making the same mistakes in the vain hope things will change.”

        You’re talking about the present PM, plainly. Penny dropped has it?

    • 37
      Twat Alert says:

      At first I thought you were a troll pretending to be Charles Hardwidge, then I remembered that Mr Hardwidge has frequently made a cock of himself on LabourList. Ergo you are Charles Hardwidge and you talk utter bollocks that 12 year old would be ashamed of saying.

    • 46
      Cassandra King says:

      Are you a mental case by any chance?

      WTF? blaming the oppostion for the governments failure, is there no end to the newlabour blame shifting?
      You socialist fuckwitts deserve to lose the next election if all you can do is blame someone else for all your own faults, did learn your childish blame shifting from your prime mentalist head banger Brown?

      • 53

        Try having a Tory budget under similar circumstances. From the brief bit I saw of Cameron putting on his best Mr Angry impression with a bonus artful voice croaking in places I didn’t see anything that addresses glass jawed heroes paying themselves too much or avoiding putting the collatoral damage of a recession into orange jumper suits. However bad off you think you are, I assure you, there’s much worse.

      • 59
        jgm2 says:

        However bad off you think you are, I assure you, there’s much worse.

        We all know that.

        And we know who to blame too.

      • 61
        Charles Hardwidge's Bipolar Disorder Speaking says:

        My best friend, Gordon, says that he’s going to plead asylum. That is, he wants to go back to the asylum.

    • 56
      Anonymous says:

      That might be your opinion, but my opinion is that as soon as labour are physically out of number 10, the ftse and sterling will both go through the roof because the city (and the rest of the world) will finally get to see people in charge who have at least a basic understanding of economics and maths.

      The tories are trying to scupper Brown’s/Labour’s economic plans because those plans are completely insane and are part of a scorched earth policy and will only end in economic annihilation.

      Brown has inflicted economic terrorism on the uk since 1997. If you want to blame someone for destroying the economy/country, blame him; he’s been in charge of it for 12 years and we’re in the worst situation in the developed world because of it.

      • 60

        Peter Mandelson is succinctly describing the approach first advocated in the 6000 year old text we call The Tao. Yes, some people want “authoritative” and “rapid” moves but this merely stimulates arrogance and people falling over their feet like Keystone cops. Subtlety, cooperation, and patience are virtues. One needs nothing else. No brains. No posturing. No rushing here or there. Success, or recovery, happens in its own time and in its own way, naturally, if one acts in accord with the Tao.

        Rushing in with a pneumatic drill and hammering away at a piece of rock would merely create a pile of gravel, but the master craftsman works steadily and surely and allows the masterpiece to emerge from the rock. They move as accurately and fast as the tools and rock allow not how vanity or the cheering of the crowd would have them. Worry and gossip distracts from this. Best just get on with it and be happy.

        The difference between Labour and the Tories is clear. While the Tories would act butch and get people worked up, Labour are less focused on building monuments to ego and storming barricades, and looking at growing the recovery. This is less a boxing in and closing down process and more a creative and opening up process. They’re not seeking to control the uncontrollable but are welcoming of the opportunity the world has in abundance. The Tories cry recession. Labour cry renaissance!

      • 72
        Charles Hardwidge's Bipolar Disorder Speaking says:

        “Labour are less focused on building monuments to ego and storming barricades.”

        Sorry, what rock have you been under for the last twelve years?

        I don’t know a single person on the planet (other than scousers and geordies) who will even think about voting for Labour.

        They are doomed…….. DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMEEEEDDDDD!!!

      • 78
        jgm2 says:

        Priceless. Vintage Hardwidge moonshine. Have you got a window open from some of his prior art and are just cut’n'pasting? Just like him in places. Very funny.

        Sorry I couldn’t be bothered to read it all though. It’s like a Brown speech. Seen it all before.

        It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

        Excellent trolling though. Don’t let me stop you.

      • 104

        Again, another troll comment. Why does Guido allow such rubbish on his blog? LabourList isn’t perfect but at least it’s properly moderated and deals with the real issues.

      • 131
        jgm2 says:

        Not ‘real issues’ Charles. Big Issues.

        Big Issue. Big Issue. Get your Big Issue. I used to be Prime Minister you know.

        Fuck off Brown.

      • 318
        Isis says:

        Gordon Brown is the country’s biggest terrorist and we all need protection from him.

    • 57
      Charles Hardwidge's Bipolar Disorder Speaking says:

      Sorry everyone for being a twat. The nurse is bringing me my tea and biscuits. My good friend, Mr. Timney is coming soon. He says he’s got a couple of good films for me to watch. Hainault Boutique I think one of them is called. He said it has a good opening scene.

      • 64
        shellingout says:

        This is the behaviour of a mad man who keeps making the same mistakes in the vain hope things will change……

        Sounds just like Gordon Brown to me.

      • 66
        Plato says:

        Oh dear me – now that Dolly Draper has disappeared up his own email, Mr Hardwidge ‘I’d blog but I’m too lazy’ has popped up here.

        You really are a weapons grade bore.

        Go back to Labourlist and posting comments at 0300 when there are just oodles of visitors online.

        *yawn*

      • 85

        Plato, stop trying to get my attention with trolling and flamebait. I won’t discuss anything with people who pull those strokes so get used to the idea.

        Draper doesn’t need to resign from LabourList. He just needs to focus on being a figurehead and put bums on seats. If he sticks to what he’s good at and lets someone else who’s better at building sites like Labour List do what they’re good at things should take off.

        If Labour step up a gear it will leave the Tories wishing they’d never tried it on. The Tories have thrown their biggest punch and if Labour seize the opportunity it will leave the Tories feeling impotent and scared.

      • 126
        R.McGeddon says:

        ‘Draper needs to focus on being a figurehead’

        He’s far too busy focusing on being a Dickhead.

      • 140
        Hello Dolly says:

        >Draper doesn’t need to resign from LabourList. He just needs to focus on being a >figurehead and put bums on seats. If he sticks to what he’s good at

        Which is what, exactly?

        If you are not Dolly in person, then you must be a still more ridiculous creature previously regarded as mythical – a loyal supporter of Dolly. Why yes, how could I not see it – the man is a political genius, scrupulously honest and possesses impeccable professional qualifications.

        Or are you Anton? I can sympathise. That scruffy bastard sprawled on the sofa weeping into his White Lightning in front of Jeremy Kyle all day tends to put a damper on things. I was saying to these three sailors while we were queuing on the stairs there with our little numbered tickets – it’s enough to put a fellow off his stroke!

    • 79
      Anonymouse says:

      Oh shit, Charlie Hardwidge has turned up here; bored with Labour listing badly are you Charlie? Nick Robinson is getting a right roasting on the LBC.

      Now what are your Zen feelings on Gordon Brown’s future?

    • 81
      Fubar Saunders says:

      Charlie, where ya been??? :-)

      Is one’s Zen-like state taking a bit of a battering??

    • 100

      Do you have some kind of mental disorder?

      If so, there’s someone I can recommend for you:-

      http://www.derekdraper.net/home.htm

      • 108

        I don’t “do” debate or care much for people being rude. I’m just happy having conversation and if some people want to roll up just to knock chunks out of people they need calling on that.

        If the Tories weren’t such a policy free zone and so unkind I’d have more time for them but you have nothing to offer and want to own the whole pie. So, you might want to revise your comment.

      • 142
        no longer anonymous says:

        I was wrong, you’re not the real Charles, just a brilliant parody.

      • 161
        jgm2 says:

        Yep. Parody of Hardwidge. But then Hardwidge himself is a parody. Some fantastic throw away stuff earlier on though. Did you see…

        This is the behaviour of a mad man who keeps making the same mistakes in the vain hope things will change.

        Hahahahahaha. Priceless. The real Hardwidge would never have slipped in one like that.

      • 225
        Right Bastard says:

        There’s a distinct whiff of mincer in the air. Can’t say for definite – just a gut feeling.

      • 370

        I am getting very bored with this person Charles Hardwidge, life is to short, I am off visit Iain Dale!

    • 137

      “Try having a Tory budget under similar circumstances”.

      OK then- tell Brown to fuck off, call a snap election and you’ll get your wish.

    • 179
      Technomist says:

      Shouldn’t you be giving ‘special advice’ to someone?

    • 302
      If its not on the BBC then its true says:

      Barking, clearly barking.
      But then that’s labour for you.
      Either common thieves or barking mad.

    • 377
      The Dark Gnome says:

      Watch your back Hardwad…The Gnome sees all, hears all, knows all…Beware!!

  18. 25
    Ratsniffer says:

    I’ve always rather admired that “go back to your constituencies and prepare for Government” element of the Lib-Dems; that optimism so keenly promulgated before elections, and so soundly crushed after elections.

  19. 27
    stepney says:

    OT but the tears of laughter running down my face are threatening to drown the dog.

    “Mr Byrne said that we had seen “the smack of firm government” on the expenses issue, arguing that MPs had been galvanised into action on reform as a result of the Prime Minister’s proposals via YouTube last week.”

    BBC News

    The only “firm smack” seen anywhere near this bunch of incompetent fuckwits is the massive upper-cut delivered by that part-time cookery teacher to her tax-funded masturbating husband.

  20. 28

    Economists agree the British economic fundamentals are broken, and Tory plans would just reinforce that. Any whining is just people rushing for the easy way out. There are no easy ways out.

    The Tories always shrink the economy and redistribute wealth from the bottom to the top. Cameron even did a bit of projecting in his budget reply and hinted that the Tories might cheat other countries by not playing fair with the G20 agreements. Did anyone else see that? Way to crash the economy and make Britain the leper of the world.

    I remember the peeling paint and cold classrooms, and having to wait for hours during a nurses strike with a suspected broken ankle. That doesn’t happen now but it’s nothing I have to thank the Tories for.

    My mother told me about the Tories when I was young and I got suckered when I was old enough to vote. It bit me in the ass and I haven’t fogotten that. They’re still the same nasty party but it looks like they’re suckering people again.

    Ho, hum. Nobody learns.

    • 31
      Mary Hinge says:

      Hello, Dolly!

    • 38
      Rick the Roman says:

      Is it me – or do all these NuLab hoons come on here after lunch – obviously they’ve only just got up – still in their jim-jams.

      • 58

        I see the insults and name calling have started.

        If people’s position wasn’t so empty they wouldn’t pull that trick.

        I must be truly awesome if you’re that desperate.

    • 41
      no longer anonymous says:

      Right now it’s Labour that are shrinking the economy you tit.

    • 51
      Hugo Chaves says:

      I got suckered before I was old enough to vote and she bit me on the bum.

    • 68
      Anonymous says:

      Do you also remember the constant power cuts, 3 days weeks, going to the IMF to get charity money after labour led us into bankruptcy, no rubbish being collected, 90% tax rates, constant strikes forcing the country to grind to a halt, everybody who was talented/intelligent leaving the country?

      Do you then remember when all that destruction created by labour last time was carefully unpicked and corrected by a tory government which was willing to make the right decisions for the overall good of the country?

      “Nobody learns” – that’s true in the case of labour supporters.

      • 310
        micha987 says:

        Labour: voted in by empty minds, voted out by empty wallets.

        Never a truer word spoken.

    • 69
      Cassandra King says:

      “economists agree the British economic fundamentals are broken”

      WHO FUCKING BROKE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE THEN YOU MORON?

      “the Tories always shrink the economy” Oooooh really? So the newlabour depression hasnt shrunk the economy then?
      Every socialist regime has left the economy in worse shape than when it went into office, you must be a senior party commissar to spew out such verbal shite and believe it, we no longer believe your socialist lies, piss off and tell your stories somewhere else.

      • 84
        jgm2 says:

        He’s not Hardwidge. He’s a troll (mind you so is Hardwidge) but if you’re going to respond to a (pretendy) Labour imbecile then you’d want it to be to the real faux deal wouldn’t you?

      • 110
        shellingout says:

        Charles – being an entrepreneur and political analyst – why aren’t you working for the government? I would imagine they could do with a modicum of common sense rioght now.

    • 73
      shellingout says:

      …..what – in the same way that we’ve all be suckered by Labour?

      The strikes haven’t even begun yet, Charles, but they will, I can assure you.

      • 77
        shellingout says:

        ….and Charles – nearly 35,000 people have signed a petition for Gordon to resign. Are they all wrong as well?

      • 96

        If you knew anything about politics and statistics (which I do, being an entrepreneur and political analyst) you would understand that this petition has no real numerical meaning. Anyone can sign an internet petition (as long as they enter a UK postcode) and Gordon Brown has a formidable 18,000 majority in his constituency.

      • 178
        nell says:

        I suspect CH may be a certain Further Education Minister wiling away his afternoon hours on the office computer.

      • 250
        If its not on the BBC then its true says:

        Nah. he’s a polytechnic lecturer.

    • 92
      Anonymous says:

      you ignorant stupid twat

    • 92
      R.McGeddon says:

      Tories the nasty party ?? Run that past the Gurkhas and see if you don’t get a kukri up your Khyber.

      • 113
        shellingout says:

        But Charles – will he still have such a formidable majority when the elections come around? His popularity is now at an all time low and everyone I’ve spoken to (be they labour or conservative) all think he’s finished.

    • 95
      Hedley Lamarr says:

      Charlie old boy -

      Aside from the fact that you are a crazed lunatic who talks absolute bollocks, the only reason I still visit Labourlist is to have a good laugh at the drivel you post.

      Keep it up, we’ve got another year of this shit to go through and your inane ramblings are like a stream of amusing bat’s piss.

    • 160

      Why don’t you have a lie down, Chas love? It’s lack of blood sugar that’s makes you have these funny turns, Chas. Go on, have a nice lie down, and I’ll get you one of those nice soft biscuits that you like, and the doctor will be round later when he’s had a cuppa himself.

      Hang on a minute- oh, you’re a naughty boy, Chas. You’ve shit yourself again. That’s the third pair of pyjamas this week. You’re a dirty bugger at times. If you need the toilet, just tell one of the nurses and they’ll take you. Instead you get all carried away with these fantasies and you forget yourself, don’t you? Dirty boy.

    • 170
      Max says:

      Sorry about this but I am just a bit too hung over to respond to the likes of Charles Hardwidge today; if anyone is interested just go to my Online Automatic Complaint Generator and keep hitting refresh. It’s the rebuttal that keeps on rebutting.

    • 233
      Right Bastard says:

      Yep, as soon as he mentioned mother, my suspicions were confirmed. Definitely a mincer.

    • 252
      Sod off trolly says:

      You are Harman Pride and I claim my £5. Sorry £2.25 less Labour’s pay of the future debt tax

    • 301
      Quackers says:

      Hi Charles – I recall you stating on Toenails blog that you have never voted.

      Until you can get some consistency in your fairy tales why don’t you fuck off.

      Tootle pip

    • 304
      anon says:

      FFS… people like you are the reason people like me HATE Labour.

      Lack of common sense, anyone?

      Go back to Labour List and peddle your nonsense there.

    • 328
      Moley says:

      I understand it now.

      Brown is really a Tory which is why he abolished the 10%tax rate to the lowest paid so that he could give a big fat pension to that friend of the Scottish Labour Party; Fred Goodwin.
      It all makes sense.

    • 342
      Labour - Scum+Scum says:

      In power for 12 years I give you LoonHoon McSnot and his merry band of wank robbers, but its still the Tories fault – Liebour are just such Stazi twats.

    • 368
      Peter Grimes says:

      Name the experts and post the links, Charlie boy, you lying c.unt!

  21. 29
    Gordon Smallcock says:

    This is why the Lib Dems will never gain power:-

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aitlkZ4TuOs

    What a twat!

  22. 34
    Peter Grimes says:

    O/T, but good to see diddy Alan Duncan use the ‘descent into lunacy’ charge against McDoom at the (non) MP’s expenses vote.

    He might redeem his HIGNFY performance yet!

  23. 36
    Spin Doctor says:

    Old Toenails come back from his holidays to find his whole political world turned upside down. Hope Cameron kicks the bald Huhne out of his next press conference.

    • 74
      Dame Celia Molestrangler says:

      Toenails too busy getting splinters out of his arse from so much fence sitting. Woeful commenting on yesterday’s vote – can’t actually see far from where he is at the moment. His vision should clear after the next enema…..

      • 344
        Labour + BBC = Scum says:

        The greatest political commentator in the world went of to a footie match, says it all really.

    • 371

      Did his side win? Who paid for his ticket? Or did he claim it on BBC expenses?

  24. 39
    It doesn't add up... says:

    Another petition which deserves support:

    http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/smithshame/

  25. 43
    Anonymous says:

    100% of labour voters are mad.

    Perhaps those 8% of libdems voters who think the libdems will win an outright majority are also mad, but to be honest the libdems do have a very good chance of becoming the official opposition.

  26. 45
    Mark Oaten says:

    Does the 8% figure include my rentboys?

  27. 47
    Billy says:

    The sea of green is still showing on the mp’s allowances debate and a suprising thing is the count about 10 women mp’s on the tv long shot so Harriet Harperson is moaning about not enough women in the HOC,where are the women MP’s now Harriet Harperson are they all having their hair done.

    • 184
      Sarah says:

      God, no – have you seen their hair??
      Lesbian prison warder, or psycho gym mistress? I can never make up my mind.

  28. 48
    Anonymous says:

    I had to keep plugging away until I hit LIB 39 LAB 19 CON 29 into Baxter for a LIB majority of 10.

  29. 49

    Can anyone explain why Gordon is still PM? I bet fewer then 8% of anyone can figure out what the flying fuck today’s Commons balls up was in aid of….

  30. 50
    Will Hung says:

    Depends on how big the swing is.

  31. 70
  32. 80
    Anonymous says:

    34,572

  33. 82
    Sherlock Holmes says:

    Elementary – surely this is a 6% solution.

  34. 83
    Anonymous says:

    (O/T) I see that the US government are taking a harsh line on flu victims:

    “We’re also actively monitoring travelers at our land, sea, and air ports. We’re watching them for signs of illness, and we have appropriate protocols in place to deal with those who are sick. Precautions are being taken to protect travelers and border personnel. Anyone exhibiting symptoms is being referred to an isolation room where they can be evaluated by a public health official before proceeding to their destruction.”

    http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1241056994692.shtm

    We need a similar policy for anyone infected with the deadly Labour Voting Virus

    • 94
      shellingout says:

      I note that we are now scaled up to No. 5 on the swine-flu richter scale.

      Alan Johnson told us how serious this is, backed up by Liam Donaldson, but givernment have not closed our borders, or stopped anyone from going out of the country. The people who have supposedly been infected are improving daily.

      If it really was this serious, surely governmenet would be pulling out all the stops to get this under control – unless it already is…!!

      • 114
        jgm2 says:

        Oh come on. It’s obvious what’s happening. This is being blown up out of all proportion so that Brown can proclaim that not only can he contain animal diseases ‘successfully dealt with foot and mouth crisis’ but he can tame plague and pestilence in the human population.

        He’ll be on TV banging on in his extraordinary braggart style about how he ‘managed’ the crisis ‘successfully’. ‘Took the right decisions’. ‘Getting on with the job’. ‘Right thing to do’.

        The alternative is that it really is a pandemic and a million or so of us are dead by July in which case he’ll be absolutely delighted because nobodies eye will be on the fucked up economy then. He can print as much money as he likes and fly around the world grandstanding at even more meetings.

        Oooooh, he’d really love that.

      • 121
        Gordon Brown says:

        We are the best prepared country in the world to deal with this.

    • 103
      It doesn't add up... says:

      Now we know what Dubya is doing in retirement!

      • 193
        nell says:

        Of course if it really is a pandemic on the way and it goes on into next year then he may well have a perfect excuse not to call the election! We’ll all be told to stay at home just like Mexico.

    • 239
      Tonka says:

      Thankfully, the symptoms are easy to spot – excessive window-licking

  35. 88
    Bill d'Sarse says:

    I see Millibanana maintains his normal standard in foreign climes:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/30/sri-lanka-tamil-tigers

  36. 89
    anonymouse in the Treasury skirting boards says:

    8% are hopeless optimists, so probably Lib-Dem members. It is the 5% of Lib-Dems who think Labour are going to win who are as mad as a box of frogs!

    • 119
      Atlas shrugged says:

      It is the 5% of Lib-Dems who think Labour are going to win who are as mad as a box of frogs!

      You are right there, these people are clearly as mad as a box of hoping mad frogs, living on some other planet then the rest of us. Excuses for which are hard to find, and likely not worth looking for.

      However there is just one thing we must never forget, and that is,

      EVENTS dear boy, EVENTS.

  37. 97
    Anonymous says:

    So, with the PM dead in the water having lost all authority and being forced to pull the expenses vote purely to save face, what’s on the BBC news home page on its top stories?

    ‘Hot and dry’ UK summer forecast -
    The UK is “odds on for a barbecue summer”

    No mention of the fact that Parliament has descended into complete farce and is being driven by a lunatic, unless you scroll down a long way to an easily-missed subsection.

    Those wankers at the bbc should be shot for treason.

  38. 101
    Atlas shrugged says:

    More like insanely optimistic or childishly dishonest, but we can hardly blame them for that. After all if you asked Newcastle United fans, at least 8% of them would claim their team are going to not only stay up, but are going to win a piece of important silverware at sometime in their beloved clubs future.

    Of course any sane individual, that knows anything about football, knows this to be IMPOSSIBLE.

    What we need is a Conservative government, holding a massive majority, and an active and united opposition. Along with a media that at least tries not to be completely FASCIST in nature, all of the time.

    What we will undoubtedly get however, is yet another elected dictatorship, controlled and influenced by the MSM. Which, as we should all by now plainly see with our own eyes, acts solely in the interests of a small number of horrendously authoritarian criminal elites. The worst possible offender in this regard being The BBC, with Murdoch coming in a close second.

    • 109
      Anonymous says:

      It’s the best club in the world!

    • 115

      The Tories always shrink the economy and redistribute wealth from the bottom to the top. Cameron even did a bit of projecting in his budget reply and hinted that the Tories might cheat other countries by not playing fair with the G20 agreements. Did anyone else see that? Way to crash the economy and make Britain the leper of the world.

      You really don’t know what you’re talking about do you? Clearly you’re back to your usual Trollish little tricks.

      • 123
        shellingout says:

        What – like the way Bliar gave back our substantial rebate to the EU, then?

      • 253
        ZNL fascist to the core says:

        How many billions did Brown give to the banks, you know the ones stuffed with “toffs” and the uber rich and who is going to pay for this largesse?

        Will poor people who the Labour parteh constantly pledge their undying love for, will they be forced by law to pay for the bankers failures?

        Thought so.

      • 379
        Sir Barrington Minge says:

        Hardwad you really are a tiresome little tit.

        Why don’t you run off and play with your little pal Snot-Gobbler
        and give us all a bit of peace?

      • 392
        God says:

        I think you will find many other G20 countries already don’t play fair. Are they lepers and outcasts?

        I think you will find that the current government is making a fine job of shrinking and crashing the economy. Record breaking in fact.

        No need to be rude Charles

  39. 102
    Cheeky Girl says:

    I was very interested in a political career after my pop one ended. I met a very nice lib dem man who promised me big elections in my fanny. But I said I don’t want to move to Wales!

  40. 107
    deb says:

    It just shows they have sense of humour.

  41. 112
    Anonymous says:

    You want ‘MAD’ eh?
    Absolutely barking?
    Stark staring bonkers?
    Madder than a cow with BSE?
    Madder than Mad Jock McMental in 10 Drowning Street? (well ok; maybe not that mad)
    but how about Liam Byrne:
    “Mr Byrne said that we had seen “the smack of firm government” on the expenses issue”

    http://www.politicshome.com/Landing.aspx?Blog=7476&perma=link

    Read it and weep (with laughter)

    • 129
      stepney says:

      I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave sometime ago:

      OT but the tears of laughter running down my face are threatening to drown the dog.

      “Mr Byrne said that we had seen “the smack of firm government” on the expenses issue, arguing that MPs had been galvanised into action on reform as a result of the Prime Minister’s proposals via YouTube last week.”

      BBC News

      The only “firm smack” seen anywhere near this bunch of incompetent fuckwits is the massive upper-cut delivered by that part-time cookery teacher to her tax-funded masturbating husband.

    • 159
      Saddam Hussien says:

      Using Byrne logic:

      I won.

  42. 120
    TheLaughingHomeSecretary says:

    I tell every labour canvasser I am definitely going to vote for them. Serves 2 purposes – fucks up the opinion polls (we all know the outcome anyway) and gives me a warm glow inside as I say to myself “there you go, see how you like being lied to”.

    • 130
      Anonymous says:

      I once convinced a tele researcher i was a Gay,BNP supporting Muslim! I wonder how that affected the demographic

    • 133

      I hope you feel really proud of your self. Well done.

      Now go away you Troll.

      • 145
        Phil O'Sopher says:

        Aren’t you the dick brain who pisses everyone off on Draper’s site? Troll indeed.

    • 148
      jgm2 says:

      No. Don’t do that. Pretend not to understand where they’ve fucked up the economy. Keep them on the doorstep for half an hour while they explain, to the best of their understanding, how the UK’s economic meltdown has nothing to do with Gordon Brown.

      Then tell them you’re convinced and ‘Yes actually you would like a lift to the polling station’. Then when you get there vote ABL (Anybody but Labour).

      This serves a number of purposes. You get a free lift to the polling station but most importantly you prevent them from lying and confusing half a dozen older folk.

      Lying to the Labour liars because it’s the right thing to do.

    • 209
      Feduptothebackteeth says:

      We don’t have Liebour round our way (thank gawd), in fact I don’t think they would have the courage.

  43. 122
    Ian says:

    I’m really bored Guido.

    Hope you’ve got a juicy story lined up for this Bank Holiday’s papers…

    • 139

      You’re kidding yourself if you think Labour is finished. Gordon still has some tricvks up his sleeve, believe me. He hasn’t been a top politician for two decades without knowing being able to punch his weight.

      If Labour step up a gear it will leave the Tories wishing they’d never tried it on. The Tories have thrown their biggest punch and if Labour seize the opportunity it will leave the Tories feeling impotent and scared.

      • 153
        It doesn't add up... says:

        Has he been taking lessons from Two Jags Prescott?

      • 156
        It doesn't add up... says:

        Think I meant Two Jabs…

      • 157
        It doesn't add up... says:

        One for flu, obviously

      • 164
        Anonymous says:

        Fuck off! Seriously!

      • 187
        Twizzle says:

        Gordon doesn’t do ‘tricks’ does he?

        He does ‘the right thing to do’, ‘it’s started in America’, ‘it’s global’.

        They’re called ‘lies’, not ‘tricks’.

      • 217
        Groucho says:

        We don’t want any more of Brown’s tricks. Or his lies, smears or downright incompetence, either.

        We want someone who can get the country out of the shit that Brown has landed us in.

        You are flogging a dead horse. After f*cking up just about everything he has touched, Brown is now finished. The Labour party has shown that it lacks the spine to rid itself of Incapability Brown and there is no way the deluded fool will leave voluntarily, so he is going to have to be kicked out.

        Fair enough. The added bonus of him trying to hang on to the bitter end is that in doing so he will render Labour unelectable for a generation.

      • 267
        If its not on the BBC then its true says:

        This is hilarious stuff.
        Simple textual analysis reveals this Hardwidge loon to be none other than that poofter Harman_Scum.

      • 270
        Anonymous says:

        yeah, yeah, yeah, that monocular jock tosser couldnt even punch a fucking bus ticket.

      • 358

        “He hasn’t been a top politician for two decades. . .” – spot on with that. He hasn’t.

        “. . . without knowing being able to punch his weight” (sic)- he’s harder when he shouts and chucks mobile phones, though.

  44. 125
    Hedley Lamarr says:

    Charlie – another one for you old boy. Who wrote this?:

    “Obscured by the cordite and noise of battle, Prime Minister Brown’s take-off had all the appearance of a lumbering Wellington bomber but as it looms closer is emerging as a svelte Spitfire. The recent well received policies are like wheels lifting from the ground. Appointments, the trimming of flaps. Media welcome, the pull of joystick and roar of Merlin engine.”

    More like a Bolton-Paul Defiant I’d say. An utterly useless aeroplane.

    • 343
      Charles E. Hardwidge says:

      I also said:

      “Thanks for the article, Nick. It was insightful and a good read – very captivating and reflective. I think, it hits a few nails on the head about Prime Minister Gordon Brown and the new team. The Prime Minister spent many years in the treasury in the same way Steve Jobs did with Next Computer, and bringing in his own team reflects the reverse takeover by Jobs when he returned to Apple.

      As Steve Jobs faced a declining market for the Apple Macintosh and Apple’s own next generation Operating System, Rhapsody, was stuck in development hell, so the Prime Minister’s vision and bringing in the best of the best are set to create the OS X of government policy. How can the Tories Windows and Liberal’s Linux compete? Answer: they can’t. You have cool, or you don’t.”

      I stand by every word.

      • 380
        Sir Barrington Minge says:

        Hardwad, you are so full of shit it’s laughable.

        Go and play with yourself someplace else.

  45. 127

    Cameron’s life of gloss shows he’s too shallow to lead.

    Cameron has lead a life of spin. He learned his trade at the Tory Research Department, during which it is revealed today (in the Independent) he took a trip to South Africa funded by a company which lobbied against sanctions on the apartheid regime.

    In Cameron on Cameron, by Dylan Jones, the Conservative leader says his experience taught him “that spin and PR will not get you where you want to go, and that the truth is the most important commodity.”

    But the truth has never been the most important thing to Dave.

    Cameron had to apologise in February after one of his staff changed the Wikipedia entry for Titian to try to win a bizarre argument with Gordon Brown over the artist’s age.

    The stories about how Cameron invited the media to his holiday in Cornwall last summer, but not to his real holiday on a yacht on the Turkish Riviera, showed that he is desperate to hide his wealth.

    One of the perceptions that he cannot shake, according to Tory internal polls, is that he will always back the rich.

    In Dylan Jones’ book, Cameron boasts about his years in PR: “Basically I got to know the City”, “I was the front man in terms of talking to brokers and understanding the markets”, “I spent a lot of time with other media companies, but much more time with highly paid analysts at Goldman Sachs and Merrill Lynch.”

    He is for the moment, understandably, trying to distance himself from his past associations with bankers.

    An understanding of the importance of presentation has been essential to a man who needed to change the poor public perception of his party. But though PR is his strength it is also his weakness. Britain will not choose an ex-PR man for PM.

    Lets’ look at Cameron’s big Whitehall cost cutting exercise. He’s acting like he’s got some uniqie and pain free solution but my guess is, at best, he’s just ripping off Kaizen, which I floated online a long, long time ago. Well, Kaizen can help but makes demands of the more stupid management they don’t always want to swallow. Plus, without a decent development plan any savings will just get frittered on jollies.

    Deadwood Cameron has all the charisma of brown corduroy.

    • 134
      Anonymous says:

      Hoon

      • 150

        If you want to resort to insults then Cameron’s a patronising thickie. The plus side is that if you climb the mountain of Cameron’s arrogance to it’s snow peaked tip you should be able to slide down his sneer on the other side. Don’t forget to pack your skis.

    • 135
      jgm2 says:

      Big Issue. Big Issue. Get your Big Issue.

    • 136
      Harry Va Derci says:

      I see you’ve bunked off early from LabourList.

      Pull up a chair – Guido doesn’t mind if the “trolls run riot”.

    • 138
      stepney says:

      “Britain will not choose an ex-PR man for PM.”

      We get a choice now? Fantastic!

      I thought we just had un-elected, failed student union, incompetents thrust upon us!

      This is great news!

      • 144

        Cameron’s latest slogan is “Now for Change”. “Now” and “change” are key parts of Zen Buddhism. I remember joking some months back when I wondered how long it would take a humble and tearful Cameron to embrace Zen Buddhism. Now we know. Talk is cheap, and Cameron’s full of that.

        Can Cameron say what solutions he’s got to problems, explain the reasoning behind them, or quote the people and examples that help inspire his understanding? If he was yanked away from his scripts and briefings would the guy be able to stand up? Like the class deadwood middle-manager we all hate, I suspect he can’t.

        There is no debate, only reality.

      • 188
        jgm2 says:

        Big Issue. Big Issue. Get your Big Issue.

    • 140
      shellingout says:

      Do you seriously think that Brown is not wealthy?…or Darling, or Harman, or Smith, or Blears?

      They have all got their noses in the trough – Labour and Conservative alike and we’re picking up the tab.

      If faced with the choice of a PM who can’t even begin to think about organising the proverbial piss up in a brewery, let alone running the country, or Dave – I’d take Dave every time.

      I’ve been made redundant – along with a million or so other people. What exactly has Gordon done for me……..NOTHING!

      You may think this is OK but I certainly don’t.

      • 147
        Ed Balls says:

        So what?

      • 152

        The Tories secret policies are so effective they have to hide them in secret while the econonmy is suffering just so they can win an election. Or, maybe, they’re just conning people? Their ideologically driven opposition in parliament has already cost the British economy up to £15 billion per annum. What makes you think these Tory brainiacs have a clue about actually helping things?

      • 154
        Harry Va Derci says:

        Charles Hard-On is well-known for trolling “right-wing” blogs. Please don’t encourage him by feeding him.

      • 195
        Master Baiter says:

        If you have been made redundant I hope you find a job soon, it’s not going to be fun.
        Under a Conservative regime you can expect to be stigmatised, told you’re rubbish and a leach. If you have children you can expect even worse treatment for them.
        If you think the financial crisis and the consequent economic slump would have been less severe under a Conservative regime, you are mistaken.

      • 202

        Well said Master. Does anyone really think te notorious phoney Cameron and his Shadow Cabinet of Old Etonian toffs is in touch with ordinary people?

      • 282
        If its not on the BBC then its true says:

        Hilarious. Wanker baiter and poofter Harmam_Scum_Pride posting within seconds of each other.
        No, surely not. Yes. they’re one and the same individual.

    • 146
      Mary Hinge says:

      That should be “Cameron has led”, you illiterate hoon.
      Edukashun, edukashun, edukashun…

    • 151
      shellingout says:

      ..and at least Cameron DID apologise. Something we have yet to hear from the lips of our PM.

      • 155

        Actually Gordon Brown HAS apologised, you Troll. What do you expect from him? To grovel on all fours and kiss your boots?

      • 158
        shellingout says:

        Exactly when was that then? I don’t ever remember him actually saying the word “sorry”.

      • 165

        “I don’t ever remember”

        It’s not my fault, or Gordon’s fault if you can’t remember. Try drinking less and meditating more. Were you educated under Thatcher?

      • 194
        Groucho says:

        When did Brown apologise? I must have missed that.

      • 200
        H says:

        “Actually Gordon Brown HAS apologised, you Troll. What do you expect from him? To grovel on all fours and kiss your boots?”

        Well that may be a start.

    • 169
      Failing to forget says:

      Oh yes, terrible. You seem to have forgotten that Gordon Brown has just spent years telling us how outrageous pay and bonuses in the city are a good thing. Wow, he was bang on there clearly…

      • 189

        Cameron and the Tories are deliberately undermining the economy just to get elected. In a lot of South Asian countries they’d be in jail for economic terrorism.

      • 229
        Village Idiot says:

        You might have a point there.

      • 363
        Failing to forget says:

        As has been mentioned before, they would have a job to undermine it since the fantastic policies brought in by the man who has been in charge of the nations finances for more than a decade have already caused it to well and truly collapse.

    • 171
      Cherie Darling says:

      Oh, there you are, you scoundrel

      Cherie Darling says:
      April 30, 2009 at 4:09 pm

      Oh Charles, stop all this nonsense and come and give me a cuddle

      Go on, you know you want to ;0)

    • 210
      anonybot says:

      “Britain will not choose an ex-PR man for PM.”

      I can understand that you are in denial but I am afraid that is exactly what is likely to happen.It doesn’t matter what you personally think about Cameron. At the end of the day the voters have made their minds up about Brown and as a result will destroy Labour at the polls – the only choice you have is whether you stick with Brown and face certain wipe out and less than 200 seats in the post June 2010 Parliament or you ditch Brown(the last possible date for this being October 2009) seek a more voter friendly leader who can possibly save what can be saved of the Labour Party and possibly reduce the Conservative majority and rebuild in Opposition to fight the 2014/2015 election. They are the only options now left to Labour.

      It must be a bitter dis-illusionment for you after the all the promise and hope that washed through the country on 1 May 1997 as Blair walked into No10 with a mandate and the goodwill of the electorate to do almost anything he wished. All alas squandered by Brown’s pettiness and his feeling of being deprived of what he felt was his proper legacy – leadership of the Labour Party by Blair. A bigger man would have put aside his own vanity and worked with Blair rather than schemed against him and put obstacles in his way at every turn until he and his acolytes were able to force out the only man Labour had who could deliver “Middle England” and £ consecutive terms and possibly even 4 for the Party but that of course is the tragedy of Brown – a man gifted in many ways but also cursed by his own pyschological make up.

      At another time and in another place I will feel sorry for him but not NOW – the fate and future of the country is too important to allow him to remain as Prime Minister and that is why he MUST go – either by the Labour Party replacing him or by him losing the General Election and if that means finishing the Labour Party electorally – then so be it !!

      • 256
        jgm2 says:

        Brown is gifted in only one way. The self-promotion of James Gordon Brown. Outside that very confined arena he is an imbecile. An economic imbecile. A moral imbecile. A presentational imbecile.

        He is the very model of a modern fucking imbecile.

        His only supporters are those who, having been taken in, cannot bear to acknowledge that the emperor does in fact have no clothes.

        Millions of litlle kids are pointing at him in the street giving it ‘Hahahahaha Gordon, we can all see your willy’.

      • 271
        Master Baiter says:

        “at the end of the day”
        is a claptrap signal

    • 213
      Feduptothebackteeth says:

      All them cornfields, and ballet in the evening.

    • 244
      Andy Carpark says:

      As an expert on Zen Buddhism, perhaps you can enlighten me with an answer to the following.

      What did the Caspian Sea?

    • 276
      Anonymous says:

      dont give a shit Charles, at least he’s not that megalomaniacal c-unt Brown.

  46. 128
    jgm2 says:

    Apparently, while ducking out of a vote he might lose Brown said…

    “We are dealing with the big issues and we are not going to be diverted.”

    Very soon he’ll be dealing with the Big Issue. And too fucking good for him.

  47. 132
    Thats News says:

    Saying: “We can’t win, so don’t vote for us” might be honest, but it would not be seen as good politics.

    Though there’s a difference between being optimistic and making stuff up.

  48. 143
    David Cottrell says:

    I have just discovered your blog,fantastic,love it,keep it going.The more of these pompous politicos you can deflate and expose the better.As a voter I feel quite disenfranchised,the whole system needs reinventing.I know it will never happen but at least people like you keep them on them the back foot and make them look before they trouser any more of our money.

  49. 167
    Anonymous says:

    It’s as if a light went off in the swine world….mutter, mutter,.. global, oink…

  50. 168
    Fluffy Thoughts says:

    Please leave Mark Senior alone…! ;)

  51. 176

    Has anyone seen my camel?

  52. 197
    Harry Va Derci says:

    “Most trolls I’ve run into are frustrated or lack social skills, and have a pathologically inflated sense of their own worth. The tiny hardcore (about 1%) never change. If they acted like that in the real world they’d be in jail or mental hospital”

    Uncanny analysis. And one which Mrs Hardwidge is no doubt familiar with.

  53. 199
    Master Baiter says:

    You pathetic Guido harem of dinosaurs have just been comprehensively taken apart and all you can resort to is ….well it’s pretty flacid really.

    Is that telling us something?

  54. 203
    shellingout says:

    “Most trolls I’ve run into are frustrated or lack social skills, and have a pathologically inflated sense of their own worth. The tiny hardcore (about 1%) never change. If they acted like that in the real world they’d be in jail or mental hospital”

    You’ve just described Goordon to a T.

    • 208
      shellingout says:

      Has anyone ever Sectioned a PM?

    • 211

      The Tories have deliberately undermined our economy to get elected. They are criminals and terrorists and in some countries they’d be in jail right now.

      Gordon isnb’t ideal but dave is worse!

      • 215
        jgm2 says:

        Big Issue. Big Issue. Get your Big Issue.

      • 218
        Sir Barrington Minge says:

        I said….GO AWAY Bozo!!!!

      • 221
        Feduptothebackteeth says:

        Listen fuck-wit:

        How can the party in opposition undermine the economy.

        Who makes the policies? The party in goverment stupid.

        Now fuck-off back to your cave.

      • 222
        shellingout says:

        To say that the Conservatives have undermined our economy is laughable, even for you, Charles. They haven’t been in power for 12 years so how they could undermine anything is beyond us all.

        Perhaps you could enlighten us?

      • 230

        The Tories would have people banging heads and falling into a squabble. They want recession and corroded politics, and would rather be a king of a small hill than share with anyone on a big hill.

      • 245
        jgm2 says:

        Big Issue. Big Issue. Get your Big Issue. I used to be PM you know.

        Fuck off Brown.

      • 280
        Anonymous says:

        Charlie, enough’s enough. Youre making a bigger tit of yourself by the minute.

        Anyway, as an American computer games developer, what the hell do you care??

      • 381
        The Dark Gnome says:

        Are you sure your name isn’t Balls ‘cos you talk a lot of bollocks?

        When you have something intelligent to contribute feel free,
        but until then do us a favour and disappear.

        The Gnome hears all, sees all, knows all…Beware

  55. 206
    Edna Cloud says:

    Aah yes – the old trick of insulting people for insulting people

    You left-leaning Socialist types don’t do irony very well do you?

  56. 207
    righty right wing (mrs) says:

    I say, are we sure our Zen friend is all he / she seems?

    Reading through their submissions here today I would have to conclude that the person is rather aggressive & potentially violent.

    Not very Buddhist really.

    Or is violence against the oppsite end of the democratic political spectrum in keeping with that Islaington strand of Buddhism?

    And the unswerving support for Mcmental – he who aided & abetted the dear departed three time election winner Blair & future star in the Hague – well, I cannot see a true Buddhist supporting two of the most successful mass murderers in modern history, can you?

    Answers on a recycled prayer flag please.

  57. 220
    Harry va Derci says:

    Oh don’t take any notice of ol’ Charlie – even his pals on LabourList have had to usher him into a darkened room for a lie-down following his madder moments in which he tends to accuse everyone outside Number 10 of being terrorists.

    He’s a bit like the loony on the bus who always sits opposite you. Eventually he’ slink off and annoy someone else.

    • 235

      You Tory trolls are so pathetic with your cut-and-paste insults.

      People make mistakes and it takes time to change things. That’s why the legacy of Thatcherism comment I made like a clear bell around the media and popular discussion. The Tories are trying to put that genie back into the bottle but I’m not going to let you do it.

      The people deserve the truth of what the monsters in big business and their shady Tory pals did to oppose and turn back every positive thing Labour tried to do. They need the facts and a dollar value. They need to know just by how much Tory pettiness cost the British economy. They need closure on Tory politics and a chance to move on.

      • 238
        jgm2 says:

        Big Issue. Big Issue. Get your Big Issue . I used to be PM you know.

        Fuck off Brown.

      • 242
        shellingout says:

        Tell that to the million and a half people who have already lost their jobs, and possibly their homes too…..and the future million who are about to lose theirs.

      • 247
        jgm69 says:

        You post your real name and address here, right now, let’s see how fucking brave yoe are

      • 248
        jgm69 says:

        You post your real name and address here, right now, let’s see how fucking brave you are

      • 255
        Andy Carpark says:

        As an expert on Zen Buddhism, perhaps you could enlighten me with an answer to the following.

        Why are there pips in oranges?

      • 263
        Master Baiter says:

        Andy Carpark
        Becasue if they weren’t in the oranges they would be outside of them.

      • 352
        Anonymous says:

        If you feel that Labours economic strategy is so good what part of it has been a success in the last 12 years?

      • 360
        Sarah says:

        Ok, we need to know, now tell us or fuck off.

      • 365
        cut and paste says:

        You Tory trolls are so pathetic with your cut-and-paste insults.

        People make mistakes and it takes time to change things. That’s why the legacy of Blairism comment I made like a clear bell around the media and popular discussion. Labour are trying to put that genie back into the bottle but I’m not going to let you do it.

        The people deserve the truth of what the monsters in big business and their shady Labour pals did to oppose and turn back every positive thing The conservatives tried to do. They need the facts and a dollar value. They need to know just by how much Labour pettiness cost the British economy. They need closure on Labour politics and a chance to move on.

      • 389
        I Manatee says:

        Wow a leftie talking about economics? What is it this time? Keynesian stimulus with record budget deficits and taxation? Or more nationalizations? If I recall correctly it was a certain Chancellor of the Exchequer who deregulated the City, the same Übermensch who ended boom and bust.
        As any reasonable economist will tell you, this recession (we’ll be calling it a depression soon) will lead to low to zero growth for the next 5-10 years, due to high taxation and the absence of any relevant productivity growth (due to a savings shortage). We should also expect high inflationary periods due to the pounds devaluation, this combined with a structural trade deficit will lead to lower living standards for the middle and lower classes.
        For someone to put the blame on a government who left office almost 20 years ago is implying a huge time-lag on governement intervention, which in any case put down any hopes of relevant policies.
        And then you go after the monsters of big business? Well with these arguments, one such as me can only have two conclusions, or you have a disappointing education on political economy or you are a one book (which you do not understand) socialist. Just look around the web, liberal economists such as Paul krugman or Joseph Stiglitz have more relevant theories than the marxist crap you’re spewing.
        In conclusion don’t talk shop with Tory Boys it will only confuse you. You should read up on growth economics and stop thinking a book from the 1st industrial revolution has any relevance in explaining the complex society we live today. Some of Marx’s points are relevant but most of it is pretty much outdated in a post-industrial society. Historical materialism destroyed communism, there’s poetic justice for you.

  58. 226
    Swiss Bob says:

    Eight percent doesn’t seem to bad.

    I’d put the number of psychotic Labour MPs at near a hundred percent and their voters can’t be much better.

    Nutters the lot of them especially Brown.

    • 246

      Go away. And take your Trollish nonsense with you.

      • 251
        shellingout says:

        Err…hate to say this Charles but you seem to be very much in a minority here.

      • 260
        Andy Carpark says:

        As an expert on Zen Buddhism, perhaps you can enlighten me with an answer to the following.

        Where is Lord Lucan?

      • 264
        Master Baiter says:

        Andy Carpark
        Botswana

      • 272
        Hugo Chaves says:

        As an expert on Zen Buddhism, perhaps you can enlighten me with an answer to the following.

        Where is Shergar?

      • 356
        Swiss Bob says:

        Charlie,

        A Labour apparatchik on Guido Fawkes’s blog calling me a troll?

        When did Guido make you milk monitor you blog fascist. Jeez. Labour always trying to tell you what to do.

        I’d would say that’s the pot calling the kettle black but you’d probably call me a racist.

  59. 241
  60. 249
    Sir William Waad says:

    Here’s an idea: Brown has a history PhD. Darling is a failed lawyer. Neither of them can add up or take away. We need somebody who is good with figures instead.

    In July they will publish MPs’ expense claims. Why not work out which MP has stolen the most money from us and make him or her Chancellor? 50% of the job is filching our money and the other 50% is making up stories about where it went. It’s a perfect fit.

  61. 254
    Barry says:

    some Labour MP just held up a bathplug during the expenses debate!!

  62. 257
    Tony Blair says:

    Why do only 95% of Tories think they will win the next general erection ?
    What about the remaining 5%?

    Perhaps I will “throw my hat in the ring” after all if I have a safe seat to contest.

  63. 266
    It's all Balls says:

    Fraud alert.

    Don’t think Charles Hardwidge is one and the same as Charles E Hardwidge of Toenails blog infamy.

    Charles without the E seems to me to be an unsophisticate with an ability to cut and paste but not much original thought.

    CEH may have expressed views with which I didn’t agree, but at least, in the main, they were his views.

  64. 268
    arthur says:

    Can you lot have a collection and hire someone to answer charles hardwidge.
    in my opinion no party deserves the job.

  65. 281
    Tonka says:

    Gordon Brown…5 More Years!!!

    I just cant see it come an election

  66. 283
    It doesn't add up... says:

    Does Gorbals Mick have a longer snout than any of the rest of them?

    http://blogs.ft.com/westminster/2009/04/who-gets-to-keep-their-grace-and-favour-home/

    If he keeps denying motions, he’ll wind up constipated

  67. 284
    Porcine flu-scum says:

    Porcine flu-mingers trying to be victims, let ‘em do it, suicide me Liebour scumchums is voluntary.

  68. 285
    jgm2 says:

    What? CEH’s views were his own authentic bosum-held views? CEH and his spoof alter-ego here are Tory trolls. Like the ****_Pride bunch. And Master Baiter.

    Designed to reinforce your resolve to make Labour history. Their faux idiocy is just to re-energise you to badmouth Brown and his legions of idiots at every opportunity. The pub. The bus queue. Anywhere the idiot gene my still reside. Disabuse them of their Labour idiocy.

    And I’d like to think they’re doing a thoroughly good job in that respect.

  69. 286
    Anonymous says:

    sorry I cant contain it any more…

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    havent laughed so much in days…

    Cheers Charlie-boy!!!!

  70. 286
    jgm2 says:

    Gordon Brown.

    Five more trillion more like.

  71. 288
    Anonymous says:

    Look it is possible. If Maddie’s body was found buried in the Cameron’s back garden, then the Lib Dems would win the next Election.

    It would take something like that though.

  72. 289
    TheLaughingHomeSecretary says:

    To rephrase Robin Williams slightly, Prime Ministers are like diapers, they should be changed often and for the same reason.

  73. 290
    If its not on the BBC then its true says:

    No. you go and tell them. Anyway who gives a fuck.

  74. 291
    micha987 says:

    What a horrible, unneccesary thing to say.

  75. 292
    Andy Carpark says:

    264
    You’re not an expert on Zen Buddhism. You’re not an expert on anything apart possibly from self-satisfaction, animal pornography and the relationship between the two.

  76. 295
    The Crazed Crackpot of Kirkaldy, says:


    Ye bastards, – ye snivvelin’ moanin’ minna’s

    Ye mus’a knaen that wen’ ye voted in Ma’ ain tru’ luv, – ma’ Boss Bliar, – then lik’ arl Lyin’ Borin’ Liars, we’d bankrupt tha Huhnery, – and ha’ ta’ call’ in the IMF.

    Sa’ quit yer moanin’ and gi’ on wi’ ya’ wark – if ye ha’ any.


    So nae’ worries fa’ mae, cos’ mind ye, nuthen’s’ ma fult ye understand! Ar’ anly’ did’ wao’ ar know’ tae dee.

    [Translation : it is true that every LieBore administration leaves the country destitute and impoverished.

    So why should anyone be surprised that I've achieved the granddaddy of them all. Total wipeout for decades.

    After all, I know bugger all about money, life, or things in general. I've never had a job worth the name, or earned honest money.

    My buddies, the bent and bonkers and bankers, - who I now realise saw me coming - took me to the cleaners. But on the other hand, I've retaliated in buckets full. And of course I've squandered far more than ever they took, - or could imaging taking.

    And it follows, that in following my pathetic and stupid inclinations, I, like all in NooLieBore, am blameless, - cos it's not my fault.

    So quit moaning, and get on with your work, - if you have any!]

  77. 296
    Carlos Esteban Hardowidgos says:

    I believe that Gordon Brown is the finest human being ever created. May he rule ten thousand years.

    • 303
      Andy Carpark says:

      As an expert on Zen Buddhism, perhaps you can enlighten me with an answer to the following.

      How do you get toothpaste back in the tube?

      • 315
        Brenda Lacluster says:

        Unscrew the lid dear.

      • 325
        Charles Hardwidge says:

        How childish. Great matters of state are being decided as we speak, and all you can do is seek to heap scorn on those who care about the poor. “The Way that can be spoken of / Is not the Way”. You are nothing but a straw dog.

      • 327
        jgm2 says:

        Oh God. Not another one.

      • 355
        If its not on the BBC then its true says:

        “Great matters of state are being decided as we speak”

        Just how mad is this cretin.

    • 307
      Brenda Lacluster says:

      It was a cold day in the hatchery when he was created dear.

      • 341
        Andy Carpark says:

        321

        kakashi no subigasa
        atama kara orita mada
        ame ga hageshiku furimasu

        the scarecrow’s hat
        has fallen off his head
        but still the rain beats down
        remorselessly

        Once you have finished pondering this profundity perhaps you could go back to thinking about the chiiiiiiiildrun. Cos I’ll tell you one thing gratis, me old uncle. No-one else here gives a stuff. Alternatively, consider suicide.

      • 357
        Sarah says:

        Or in the enlightened words of the Eight Immortal Scholars of the Han – just fuck off.

  78. 299
    Master Baiter says:

    Andy Carpark
    Well you’re not a carpark!

  79. 305
    pp says:

    ot:

    Why did brown go on you tube?

    Maybe he had no choice.

    He wanted allowances changed now, so when the receipts are published he could say it was ‘old news’ and ‘it has already been addressed’.

    Who is he protecting?

    Is it just his MPs? or maybe he Himself has something to hide eh??

  80. 308
    RavingMad says:

    from the Guardianblog on MPs expenses debate:

    4.53pm: Alan Simpson may have made parliamentary history; he’s just waved a bathplug in the House of Commons (a nice old-fashioned black rubber one, with silver chain).

    He’s referring to the fact that a receipt for a bathplug was on the list of items leaked to the press from Jacqui Smith’s expenses claims. (Smith has said that she did not claim for every item on that list, but hasn’t, as far as I know, cleared up whether or not the taxpayer did fund the bathplug.)

    Simpson, who is on terrific form, points out that the bathplug did not vote for the Iraq war (which is a nice line, but a bit irrelevant to his argument). He also says that parliament’s problem is that it has not tackled “the most obscene transgressions of our own colleagues”.

    The Commons should have been willing to impose punishments “including losing the right to be an MP”.

    • 312
      jgm2 says:

      I bet he didn’t get a piece of kit like that for a mere 88p.

    • 316
      Mzzzz. J. Boot, 32AA Minsta for Tourists 'n Terrorism, Terrorist-Tourism, 'n failed Terrorist Traps, says:

      LET ME THROUGH! I INSIST ON BEING HEARD!!!

      Speaking as a High Profile member of this discredited, bankrupt, lying, and deceitful government, I would like to thank taxpayers for my lovely Bathplug!

      Some people have said that I sould put a sock in it.

      But I prefer the bath plug.

      Because it fits beautifully, and is very nice and shiny.

  81. 309
    Mzzzzz. HaHaHaHaPerson, an incompetent, and leader-in-waiting, says:


    Oh yes! I signed the ‘Just GO!’ petition.

    Then I’ll get to sit in the Big Chair, and tell people what to do.

  82. 314
    Sean Woodward says:

    Hi Dave! Er… fancy a beer!

    • 322
      It's all Balls says:

      Why not – we need a candidate to fight the seat in the Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath consituency.

      I think you know the incumbent quite well.

  83. 319
    Andy Carpark says:

    As an expert on Zen Buddhism, perhaps you can enlighten me with an answer to the following.

    Is it topologically possible to have one’s head jammed so far up one’s arse that it is coming out of one’s mouth and if so would you care to demonstrate?

  84. 320
    Elby The Beserk says:

    OT. but very funny

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/30/tony-blair-sierra-leone

    Thread shut down within a couple of hours. 54 of the 84 comments deleted. Moderators gave up in despair :-)

    Altogether now…

    Lets all kick New Labour,
    Lets all kick New Labour,
    La la la la la, la la la la la…

  85. 323
    Isis says:

    This place is excellent!

  86. 326
    Sunonmars says:

    There’s an obvious stitch up going on by Gorbals Mick and Brown on this expenses thing. Cameron and the Tories are furious.

  87. 329
    THE TROLL MASTER says:

    Charles H. Another paid civil servant using Labourlist.org.uk to keep dribbling on about how Gorn Bust has saved the world.

    He says that labourlist is moderated, so no free speech then?

    At least Guido’s web site gets a little more presence on the web for each post these failed Socialists make. So I suppose we should be grateful for that. Well done Guido.

    Seriously, I have never heard such rubbish in all my life and the sad, or certifiable, thing is they honestly seem to believe it but it’s just jargon from some Communist’s little red book. If they had a brain half as worthwhile as a moldy carrot I’d be impressed but it’s just rubbish. This crap needs to be put where the man in the street can see it, so he can make his own mind up. Oh I forgot he has.

    Conservatives nearly 50%, Lib Dems second and the Commy Dinosaurs last is where we are. And it will only get better. Do you think by the time another million people are unemployed and houses are sold for a quid you lot of dreamers will have a chance at winning an election. It’s in the fiction section next to Ms Smith porn mags.

    YOUR GLORIOUS LEADER HAS BUSTED THE COUNTRY; WE OWE TRILLIONS AND YOU BLAME MRS THATCHER. YOU’R NOT FIT TO LICK HER BOOTS YOU RASCALLS.

  88. 331
    Charles E. Hardwidge says:

    “It’s all Balls” (what a childish screen name – I see that, unlike me, you are too cowardly to use your real identity), I am aware that others are impersonating me. This matters not. “A man of the highest virtue does not keep to virtue and that is why he has virtue. A man of the lowest virtue never strays from virtue and that is why he is without virtue. The former never acts yet leaves nothing undone. The latter acts but there are things left undone.”

    And no jokes about flies, if you please.

    • 334
      jgm2 says:

      Big Issue. Big Issue. Get your Big Issue. I used to be Prime Minster of the Uk you know.

      Fuck off Brown.

    • 337
      Charles E. Hardwidge says:

      jgm2, elsewhere you make cogent if misguided points. You seem to be reasonably intelligent, for a right-winger, so why descend into such banalities?

    • 349
      Rolex_Pride says:

      I say Charles, what do you think Gordon and the Labour Party should do to get people on their side? Awfully interested to hear your views old chap.

    • 383
      Sir Barrington Minge says:

      You patronising prat.
      It’s people like you who elected Blair/Brown and still believe it was right.

  89. 333
    ZNL fascist to the core says:

    Charles is such a fanatic, I am sure the Gestapo had loyal members right to the end as well, full of hate and anger, as the thousand year Reich came crumbling down around them.

    The McMentalist`s are quite, quite deluded, tribalist, fanatics, they are so stupid as to believe everyone here who hates ZanuLabour is a Tory too.

    Really they are that retarded,
    its not the corruption,
    its not the endless lies,
    its not the naked greed,
    its not the treachery committed towards the British people,
    its not the rank incompetence,
    its not the ever increasing loss of democratic governance,
    its not breathtaking hypocrisy,
    its not the theft from the public purse,
    its not the complete lack of moral fibre,
    it is not the bankrupting of the country,
    its not the debt that our children will be born into,
    its not the removal of freedom step by step,
    its not the arrogance of the ZanuLabour entitlement class,
    its not the uncontrolled tide of never ending mass immigration,
    its not the PC criminalisation of dissent,
    its not the disgusting spectacle of making poor people poorer,
    its not the looting of peoples pensions,
    no, according to the idiot socialist / fascist class, the tories have somehow managed to destroy they economy while ZanuLabour did everything they could to stop them. 1984 revisionist scumbags who cant even take responsibility for their own fuck ups, how typical, how utterly useless they really all are.

    The ZanuLabour hoons are truly a pathetic washed up mob of two bit, pimps, liars, fraudsters, hypocrites, incompetents and fools, led by a deranged narcisissistic sociopath.

    But then I suppose thats what you would expect, its in their DNA.

  90. 335
    Charles E. Hardwidge says:

    I will fulfil that role if asked politely, Arthur. Note that I have capitalised your name, just as you have deprived me of my capitals.

    “Rather than fill it to the brim by keeping it upright
    Better to have stopped in time;
    Hammer it to a point
    And the sharpness cannot be preserved for ever.”

    • 385
      Sir Barrington Minge says:

      Twat

    • 391
      Frankenswine says:

      If you want to pretend to be CEH then you need a few spelling mistakes. And don’t use quotation marks. Not a good parody I’m afraid.

  91. 336
    micha987 says:

    Calling people who disagree with you Trolls seems to be the extent of your contribution to this blog.

    Which until you decided to bombard it today with nonsense, is normally a very diverting and entertaining (and often interesting and educational) read.

    Once again, good sir, FUCK OFF.

  92. 338
    caesars wife says:

    the lib dems are not mad , more of curiosty to me , like an atractive fragrance for a pile of doo doo , shut your eyes its loverly , closely look at it and its a pile of doo doo . of course i am still miffed with there commons disgrace on Lisbon when they sat so firmly on the fence as to make not voting , a kind of noble endevour ,

    • 351
      Max says:

      Lib Dems are indeed an interesting breed; not unlike hardline Muslims they are riddled with factions and opposing views and their most passionate hatred is often reserved for each other.

      If ever they were elected they would immediately impose PR, fall out, call an election and promptly lose it so it would all be changed back again.

      I believe the collective noun for a bunch of Lib Dems is an Argument, I may be wrong.

      Obviously they are always preferable to lying, troughing, hooning ZaNuLabs, whatever they get up to with their vegetarian sandals and beards and things.

  93. 345
    Dorian Smith says:

    “That 8% of voters (who just happen to be LibDem supporters) surprisingly think the LibDems are going to win the general election suggests that they are either just extremely optimistic, mad or lying”.

    They just couldn’t find the ‘don’t know’ option.

  94. 350
    Max says:

    Call me an autistic git but the most annoying thing on here today has been the trolls calling everyone else a troll.

    Surely there are plenty of definitions of a troll out there so the trolls know what the bleedin’ word means in the context of the web?

    If mummy told you what a bleedin’ “Thatcher” was then for gawd’s sake ask mummy what a troll is so you can troll with minimum annoyance.

    Did I mention my hangover by the way?

  95. 353
    Fick Polytix Stoodnt says:

    Wot doo the uvver 84.3% think?

  96. 354
    The Beast of Clerkenwell says:

    Charles
    Be a good chap and do fuck off.
    You are boring us all, and that is one of lifes greatest sins.
    Maybe you could find fulfillment on facebook or Gaydar?
    I doubt if anybody here is interested in your inane ramblings.

    Beast

  97. 362

    Come on Charles, you know you shouldn’t be outside in the street in your pyjamas smelling of wee like that. Those little boys next door can’t come out to play in the garden when you’re being naughty like this. Have you been hiding your medicine again? You are bad sometimes.

    Now Charles, we had this “politics” and “entrepreneur” thing last time you were in hospital. You know it’s not real.

    No Charles, no don’t do that. . .

    (Sound of mobile phone ringing)

    Oh thank God it’s you, doctor. Yes, he’s had another funny turn, and he’s. . . he’s just defecated in the street again.

    I know, he can’t help it, it’s his condition. . .

    But doctor- these wild fantasies, and those awful smells. I think he might need the electric shocks again. He’s much better when he’s sedated- he’s not quite so . . . disturbed.

  98. 366
    Anonymous says:

    :lol:

    They are all fucking barking mad! :smile:

    They have Nick Clegg for leader for starters! :lol:

    He goes from Invisible Man to First Lord of the Brothel in one week! :lol:

    Nick Clegg = Neil Kinnock! :smile:

    LD= ILLIBERAL DEMOCRATS! Shameless schisters who are the shitist party in the country – How Gordon Brown managed not to join them i do not know: He sounds uniquely suited!

  99. 384
    AOP says:

    Has Charles Hardwidge been taken off to bed yet?

    • 387
      Sir Edmund Utter-Twatt says:

      yes his mum wanted the compooter to talk to her lesbian lover and it is a school night after all…

  100. 388
    Bob Maris says:

    OK here’s a scenario…

    Labour meltdown.

    Recession turns into depression with 4.5 million projected to be out of work.

    Hung parliament after next election.

    Lib Dems increase number of seats to 100 plus.

    Lib Dems will not form coalition with Tories even though they are the largest party. Queen invites Cameron to form government but he cannot get majority support in parliamnet.

    Lib Dems say they will not form coalition with Brown as PM.

    Brown refuses to go as Labour leader, promises “return to socialist roots of the party” and his Trade Union backers keep faith with him for fear of Mandelson. But say Brown says he will offer qualified support to a Lib Dem led government of “all the talents”. Clegg becomes a sort of honorary PM. Vince Cable is Chancellor with full economic powers to tackle economic crisis. Brown is Foreign Secretary. Ken Clarke reneges on Cameron and becomes Home Secretary.

    There you go – not so mad after all!

  101. 393
    Anonymous says:

    From now on it is likely that it will be a two horse race between Lib Dems and Conservatives.

    In the past the Liberals/ Lib Dems have served as a receptacle for my protest vote. Of late they have shown insight predicting the detrimental outcome of government policies and at the same time reflect the mood of the people.

    If they were to be elected the real test would if they could resist bending to the status quo, the multinationals and taking the opportunity to serve themselves.

  102. 394
    Etienne says:

    Those 8% might understand First Past The Post and how it could deliver a Lib Dem government.
    Blair got a huge majority despite getting less votes than John Major did in 1992.

  103. 390
    hdb123 says:

    Ahh well thought out and the bit on Clarke Oh so believable



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