+++ Nadine : I’m Suing Damian McBride +++
She was rumoured to have instructed lawyers this week. Her blog confirms it this afternoon “Just For The Record“:
“I have instructed and proceeded with legal action. Obviously, I am not going to say anything at all at this stage, other than that.”
Guido knows for a fact that the untrue story about her was given to some journalists, and it was alluded to in stories, it was then refined for a second more vicious smear attempt by Damian McBride in the infamous Smeargate emails.
Guido understands that legally even if the intended second round of smears were not published widely in print, she has at least two courses of action for slander and defamation because McBride telling journalists the story on his mobile would be slanderous and presumably emailing the smear to Charlie Whelan, Derek Draper and the Unite press officer Andrew Dodgshon would constitute publication (those are the known recipients of the smear at this time). There are likely to be more people who were briefed by McBride…
Knowingly and deliberately libeling someone was until not so long ago a jailable criminal offence, that has if Guido recalls correctly, been taken off the statute books. Guido has said it before; do not mess with Nadine Dorries, she is a Tory tigress…
This could prove to me interesting…
Those speech/writing patterns suggest you are Yoda.
Look, a deal’s a deal.
Some time ago, Damian McBride summoned me to the cross-roads and sold his soul to me in return for ten good years.
Well, he has had those ten years and now I am here to collect.
It is nothing personal you understand, just business.
Actually I have bought quite a lot of souls from the New Labour War Party and they are all coming up for collection over the next few months.
Has Jonah been to Mexico recently?
W.W.
“Has Jonah been to Mexico recently?”
No but the President of Mexico met him recently while on a state visit to the UK and at the G20 sumit at the beginning of the month.
Wasn’t that scumbag filth, toilets Maguire, going to run a story in today’s beano about some hooker and top ‘toff’ Tories?
Very.
Favours will now be called-in – and those who fail to come to his aid over this will suddenly find themselves extremely unpopular and on the front pages of the tabloid press.
This is one guy you do not want to piss-off – especially when he’s in a tight corner…
What you mean he’s a bullying tosser
Presumably the Prime Minister will have a great interest in this not coming to court.
Oh and Home Secretary if you’re reading this? Fuck off.
Ditto, and everything I wrote in my email about the Home Secretary being a porn-crazed fascist bitch…well Jacqui, you’ve read it for yourself, you incompetent piece of Stalinist shit.
why
“Guido has said it before; do not mess with Nadine Dorries, she is a Tory tigress”
So what is she doing in `Daves` party of surrender monkey liberal socialist Euro stooges?
Speaking of EU stooges – have a look at MEPs clocking in with their wheelie bags AT 7AM and scuttling away pronto when they spot TV cameras
The really depressing fiddling starts about 2mins in. The whole lot is worth a view for its venality.
http://plato-says.blogspot.com/2009/04/eu-gravy-train.html
And this is the system recommended by Our Glorious Leader.
WTF?
Plato, watched that, thats why i love the germans.
Jacqboots will be avidly reading “Deutsch fur Dumbkopfs” in the hope of transferring her terminally ill career over to Europe.
Still want to vote Tory?
Watch Alan Duncan on `Have I got news for you`, and you will soon change you mind!
If he represents the Tory front bench then god help us all!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mkw3
I must find out if the much heralded censorship of the Internet is now a reality here in Germany! I originally saw this transmission on the German telly (RTL I think it was) a few months ago and wished to see it again – especially for the hilarity of the bit where the silly twat MEP goes and runs into a wall, so desperate is she to escape!
But guess what? Loosely translated, I get a message informing me that “This video is not available in your country or your domain”. Rats! Could it have something to do with the `stars´ of this clip being only German MEPs d`ya think?
Truly, I do now regret not buying that Kalashnikov offered to me by a Russkie in Dresden just before they all went home. If only he had had a few bullets to go with it I`d have snapped it up!
I think its best to watch closely who now damns this move in the press. Maybe it’s those that owe most to McBride.
Rather nice situation really and well deserved by the bunch of them as they are dammed if they do when they will stick their collective heads over the paraphet or dammed if they don’t as this case goes to court and the names become known anyway.
McBride does not strike me as someone who will just stand there and take the fall for the good of all. This is going to be seriously messy.
Interesting proving this is.
McBride, seek advice, you must.
GUIDO: OK – I am being serious here: is there a decent lawyer in the house? This seems to fit more a case of ‘malicious falsehood’ rather than a highly damaging libel or slander. And Guido, did McBride actually PUBLISH the allegations about her, or did he marshall together his ideas with intent to publish at a later date?
I think she’s on a sticky wicket: if she proceeds with a libel case and she wins she gets little damages because the allegations have not seriously damaged her in actuality – in fact they have considerably raised her profile in a positive way and she’s now known more widely than she could have dreamed of – all in a positive sense. I can just imagine the late George Carman arguing that she benefited from the rumpus. She could argue she has bruised feelings but she’s a pol, and should be used to it. Also McBride did not publish widely – so that would also impact the level of damages. And of course, all those that helped to puff up the allegations by carrying them could also find themselves as co-defendants, could they not? And I can just see the journos queuing up to say they were the recipients of his briefs on her…….
Some blog responses on some sites can be read as still taking the smears about her seriously and at face value; she might be able to argue that as long as the material is continuing to surface here and there, her reputation is still suffering.
She says she was phoned by reporters about the McBride rumour several times over months, before Smeargate. If she calls them into court alleging that their source was McBride, their response will be interesting. If they decline the opportunity for revenge against McBride they will refuse to name their source(s). On the other hand…
Ashiata said: “I think she’s on a sticky wicket: if she proceeds with a libel case and she wins she gets little damages because the allegations have not seriously damaged her in actuality”
And if she is using this as a lever to winkle the emails out of the govt then it does not matter whether she wins or loses as long as she gets the emails.
I don’t know a lot about defamation law, but do have some idea. When it comes to libel, a statement only has to be “published” to one person which, I think, would mean that sending someone a defamatory email would count as libel.
I think malicious falsehood is something different. For example, if you were a pop singer and I had a grudge against you and told everyone you had cancelled your tour, which meant they didn’t buy tickets, then that would be a malicious falsehood.
But it’s also worth pointing out that with libel, you don’t have to actually prove damage, only that the statement is the kind of thing that is likely to damage your reputation.
With slander, you do actually have to prove that you’ve been damaged by it, which is one of the reasons that there are fewer slander cases than there are libel ones (along with the fact that the nature of libel means there will usually be more evidence of it).
I agree with Ashiata. I’m sorry that Ms Dorries was smeared but she’ll be throwing good money down the throats of lawyers and putting herself under stress for some time to come if she takes this to court. And everyone now knows Mcbride’s an unpleasant piece of shit thanks to Guido’s recent bit of public service, so it’s not as if anything McBride may or may not have said about Ms Dorries carries any currency.
Stay clear of the courts – it’s easier to screw them in the court of public opinion. And anyway, because she’s an MP, Dorries could use Parliamentary privilege to cause havoc on the Nulab benches provided she has sufficient colleagues willing to play ball.
Beware of lawyers bearing gifts – they’re all liars.
Are’nt we missing the point here – The smear was intended to destroy her reputation not raise her profile!
In my court of public opinion if a knife wielding thug in the act of attacking me trips over and cuts his own throat by mistake he is still as guilty as sin for the original intent.
Hawkeye is correct, it’s the wider picture which is important here; and I think we can guess that those who agree are helping fund her action. I wish her well
I understand (having been the vitim of an online libel myself recently) that there is a criminal offence of ‘Conspiracy to Publiash a Libel’ and the allegations in this case seem to fit. I do think however that Guido should take advice on whether it’s advisable to remove some of the McBride material here in case it could prejudice the court case
Can an MP claim legal costs on expenses?
Will be interesting to see who will be backing her with legal fees, can’t see it being no win no fee
Iain Dale does Hitler.
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2009/04/verdammt-nochmal.html
oh, and a couple of good lines about Nadine Doorbat and Ann Piddlecomb
Is Guido safe from legal action?
For the time being.
They’re queueing up to commit suicide
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1173566/Tessa-Jowell-Olympic-bribe-email-plunges-Labour-fresh-storm.html
Last night, Tory MP Douglas Carswell said he would write to the Cabinet Secretary Sir Gus O’Donnell to demand an investigation into the allegations.
So Gus will do like ZERO!
o/t but more corruption reported in the Mail…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1173566/Tessa-Jowell-Olympic-bribe-email-plunges-Labour-fresh-storm.html
His sorry arse is going to be spanked.
He would probably like that, him and Max Mosely.
He will be sorry he didn’t take Dolly’s advise from 9 years earlier “That kind of personality-based dirty work is very difficult to pull off properly. It is in danger of backfiring and not just because it might leak as a document.”
Who would have thought Draper could be so prophetic?
I had to do a double take on that I though you said pathetic (also would have accurate)
prophylactic?
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer person.
Decent sideshow.
The link doesn’t seem to work.
http://blog.dorries.org/Blogs/2009/Apr/25
I’m sure Cherie will be glad to lend her services for free.
Yes but who to ?
For free? Cherie?
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He won’t go down alone.
I’d heard that too, always needed a firm push on top of his pate from mandy.
I think you’ll find Balls is his ‘special friend’
You have to hand it to them, don’t you?
people like this always get it in the end
I for one do not believe that Gordo knew nothing about McBride’s activities.
Pursuing this line of attack awful strongly isn’t she? Wonder why.
If she wins a payment for damages she should donate it to a charity for the partially sighted.
Because it was untrue? Don’t forget that was made crystal clear in the emails.
It doesn’t matter The fact is they intended to spread the smear intending it be believed & there lays the rub
You get treated the same for using a real weapon as you do for a replica, don’t you? It’s the intention.
Well, that depends on what was alleged. It might be absolutely necessary to nail the little buggers to the legal floorboards…
Because some gobshites who should know better allegedly made stuff up about her, if what we hear is true-ish, really nasty stuff.
You wonder why? Because she can and because it’s right. Because it gives her a chance to nail these devious, dishonest, country-wrecking, back stabbing, hypocritical, financially incompetent, amoral, maggot eating, small animal torturing, nosepicking, smirking, superior gobshites HEADS TO THE TABLE.
In public. Under oath. She has the chance to just not to turn a spotlight on them, but to detonate a small nuke and focus the EMP, flash and shockwave on them. Burn the skin off their faces, melt their eyeballs out of their heads. And yeah, I bet the delete key is clicking fast in Downing Street tonight. Guido lit the fuse, Ms. Dorries, MP, could be the powder keg the trail of gunpowder leads to.
This bunch of twats, Gordon, his inner circle and his spineless cabinet have wrecked this country and if a backbench conservative MP is the one that brings them crashing down in dust, putrefaction, black worms from their hearts and body fluids, well great. I’ll cook her pancakes.
Get off the fence, Grex!
Seriously, I totally agree with you.
Don’t worry, swine flu will probably do the job for you
You’ve clearly never been the victim of this kind of thing – I have, twice. It’s truly horrible.
It totally destorys your peace of mind and renders you unfit for social and professional life as the injustice of your situation becomes an obsession.
And to say that politicians should expect this kind of stuff and grow a thick skin is just to accept that this modus operandi of sleazy destructive behaviour is permissible in politics. It is not. To accept it is to condone it, and thus to encourage it. Encouraging it is exactly why this situation arose, and why we have been lied to for so many years
Btw, Neil Hamilton’s relentless efforts to clear his name in the aftermanth of the Guardian/Fayed sleaze smears were what prompted me to look into the whole thing in some detail. His reaction was simply not that of a guilty man. Those accused who were guilty, admitted it and accepted their fate. I am convinced of his innocence and if the usual media suspects had not ensured an almost total news blackout of the investigation into the case by a pair of brave hacks, more people would realise it. Yet in the blogs and in the media, everyone still feels free to hurl any kind of personal abuse at the man.
“No smoke without fire” is imo the stupidest – and cruellest – cliche in the language.
It was quoted at me – and no doubt many others who have been smeared for any reason.
I’ve seen it being used in the case of Norries.
In the same way, a lot of the childish abuse of Labour politicos on here and other blogs alleging all kinds of sexual misdemeanours, etc, are probalby libellous and likely to be counter-productive. some are very funny but we would imo be collectively more effective if we cut out the personal stuff and kept it ‘cool’
The hamiltons innocent! I’ve heard it all now
I would gladly sell tickets for this. Proceeds to HM Treasury. Every little helps.
I would gradly buy them from you…….
On expenses, of course………
Good for her. Having said that she’s probably the person who has done best out of the entire scandal.
Revenge is a dish best served cold or if you are one of the Simpsons – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge_Is_a_Dish_Best_Served_Three_Times
I much prefer the South Park approach to revenge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Tenorman_Must_Die
Top Lass!
I have only one word to say on the subject.
“Discovery”
Cassius.
Yes indeedy: Damien would be well advised to shift his beetroot-coloured butt over to Italy and then claim his residency here means the action is more appropriate for a Milan court – where discovery does not apply and ambush and counterambush is the order of the day, the name of the game, and how its done in these parts [ad infinitum].
Two more words,
“Jurisdiction”
“Disclosure”
Brouhaha!!
BROUHAHAHAHAHA!!!
No chance; comity prevents the Italians hearing it and no defendant would argue that either the subject matter or the persons concerned were outside the reach of the High Court. No application to make Italy conveniens would succeed. There is also the question of the domicile of any other party (newspapers, their journalists?).
Gordumb Brown has already trashed a Downing Street printer… if he trashes a shredder next time, he may not have the means to destroy evidence.
Does breaking a Nokia destroy the evidence of received text messages? Answer: No.
There shall be discovery, indeed. I hope it extends to communications with Gordumb.
“Discovery”
In-frigging-deedy!
Oh, there’ll be some shitty breeks in Downing Street the noo!
http://winstonsmith33.blogspot.com/2009/04/deadly-case-of-assualt-with-can-of.html
If you read this you will see that the Police take throwing things very seriously – hope it gives comfort and a way out to any poor sod cowering in the PM’s office.
discovery???
Ok Located it…
In law, discovery is the pre-trial phase in a lawsuit in which each party through the law of civil procedure can request documents and other evidence from other parties or can compel the production of evidence by using a subpoena or through other discovery devices, such as requests for production of documents, and depositions. In other words, discovery includes (1) interrogatories; (2) motions or requests for production of documents; (3) requests for admissions; and (4) depositions.
wikopedia
It’s called disclosure now. It could be very interesting, not least if applications are made against Dolly, Whelan and co.
But it will take some time to get the documents and then get them into the public domain (you are not allowed to use documents you get on disclosure for purposes outside the legal action in which you got them).
And it will take time. But, with a bit of luck, it will be coming along nicely about this time next year.
In most litigation documents are circumstantial to the events complained of but in defamation they are critical, but you cannot simply fish for publications in order to sue.
The Claimant sets out their case and the Defendant responds to that case. Here the Defendant is likely to know far more about the various publications than the Claimant but will have no duty to help her so the “letter of claim” will have to set out an identifiable occasion when the defamatory words were published and if there is any guessing involved there will be pitfalls ahead.
Do you think they’ll claim national security like wot jackboots did
Like everything in law, discovery is a game; there is absolutely no obligation to disclose (usually) but if you don’t you can’t use the “undisclosed evidence” in the proceedings. This is good, though as I have said before it doesn’t apply in Italy.
I do hope she calls the Tory whips as witnesses, but somehow doubt it…………….
Mmm. Not sure she’s being as tactically smart as she thinks here. Still, wait and see.
Draper and McBride. The gift that keeps giving.
Draper is nothing, less than nothing. It’s Balls and then – tick,tick,tick – Brown we want.
Good for her !!! Sue the slimy bastard !!!! And I hope her lawyers can now gain access to his Email in and out boxes. Lets see who was really in on all this.
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaassee let GB be one of them.
Go for it, Nadine! Please, please, don’t let yourself be talked into some kind of ‘accommodation’ or scarcely reported out-of-court fudge! Teach them a lesson they won’t forget and we’ll all be indebted to you! Scare the socks off them!
As far as I can see there can be no defence to this action unless McBride intends to assert that the allegations are true and can establish them.I understand they are conceded to be fiction.The only question therefore is the amount of damages and whether aggravated or exemplary damages are available.God knows McBride already looks more than 34.He may look like an OAP in a week.
If McBride does that then the whole issue may not come to light? In other words an ‘ot of court settlement’
I really hope not!!! I want this all over the papers
I dont think she’s after money, and she already has an “apology” and “confession”. She is clearly out to destroy McBride and whoever else can be brought into it. You can bet she has had good advice by now, plus will be well funded – if not, Nadine: set up a paypal account, I will contribute.
Getting McBride in the witness box, under oath, being rogered by a good QC – I’ll fly from Sydney to watch that.
Nick Palmer MP said that apparently MPs get up to £50k legal expenses if they need it to cover libel/slander etc – wonder if this applies to acts against them too?
Kick him in the nuts, Nadine.
I told her to do that to broon a while ago (using wellies for obvious reasons), but it never made the comments….
Who’s names will now be imlicated when her lawyer
demands access to all e-mails and document. I would
one to begin with a capital “B”.
Will he grass or be found in the woods?
Bog roll is now at a premium in certain quarters
GOOD OLD NADIENE
Less of the old if you don’t mind please
When your enemy is lying prostrate on the ground………put the boot in good and hard!
sorry O/T but this caught my eye
whats the defintion of clutching at staws?
Answer: the below from toenails blogsite
164. At 08:21am on 24 Apr 2009,
PeterB20 wrote:
The first election after the Budget was a by election in Erewash for the Borough Council. Labour took a seat from the Conservatives in a swing ward in a swing Parliamentary seat. This electoral test is good news for Labour immediately after a difficult budget.
somebody give that Labour MP a pork and chicken filled tortillo
spelling, yeah. lol.
Sorry ’bout that. Having very little sleep.
Nadine for Prime Minister!!!!!
Excellent. Now we’ll stand a chance of finding out just who else DID know about the emails (please, please, please let it be The Great Moron and Lord Putrid). Anyone believe McBride was acting as a lone agent? ….
Nope, thought not.
I do.
Nah even though he is mine he is a really nasty bastard
Not long until Messrs Fawkes and Dale get their FOI responses.
*rubs hands*
will she need help financing this crusade against the dorkside? can we chip in? would love to be responsible if only £50 worth.
yup, willing to chip a tenner just to return a little of the misery to these F’ers
I doubt it There will be plenty lawyers willing to take this on a CFA no win no fee (success fee 100%) money for old rope chuck
My monies on Shillings cos Carter Fuck are to close to Gorbals
Didn’t Dolly Draper threaten Guido & the Guardian with Schillings over the ‘in Berkeley not at Berkeley’ caper?
The bimbo seems to think “instructed” and “proceeded” are the same thing. If she wants to put her commitment to marriage and family values before a jury that is her right but I can’t see any lawyer worth his salt advising her to. What is it with tories addiction to suicide by libel writ?
Of course if she is stupid enough to do this (and it’s a possibility that can’t be ruled out), it’ll e interesting to see if Guido gets a third party notice as the person actually responsible (and I use the term advisedly) for bringing the allegation to a wider public.
Jimmy, the sexist embarrassment to Socialism.
What?! Maybe she has nothing to hide? Guess that possibility wouldn’t occur to people up to their collective necks in filth.
Provided all parties consented and no children or animals were involved, then whatever la Dorries gets up to in her conference room is no concern of mine. I just think that given her track record she’s going have a hard time proving that a rumour which she herself has done as much as anyone (with the possible exception of our host) to spread has actually lowered her reputation. But if another tory wants to whip out that Sword of Truth again, who am I to dissuade them? It’s always worked so well before.
Jimmy, please die in fire at your earliest convenience.
Jimmy – Your last name’s not Brown by any chance?
No, but I do feel good.
But Jimmy, you are still a sexist embarrassment to Socialism.
I have instructed my solicitor to ‘kick him in the nuts’.
Give the solicitor a chance Jimmy I mean if that person lives a way a way they will have to get the car oot’ the garage and drive around before the deed could actually be done.
But Guido only alluded to the fact that there was a smear and made no reference to the content of any smear. He might conceivably be called as a witness (although hard to see as far down the chain of recipients) but surely not as TP.
Fuck off back to Scotland ‘Jimmy’
It is for McPoison to prove what he ‘published’ is correct. He can’t. He has lost.
Nadine should already have a Freedom of Information request in to the Cabinet Office for all Emails that concern her. They can’t refuse that.
If he calls the right witnesses, and they take their oaths seriously, he could easily do it. If this goes ahead Dorries should be ashamed of herself.
Jimmy: its your mates who should be worried – very worried. When faced with financial ruin, and maybe a spot of porridge if he is bold enough to perjure himsef, I suspect McBride will spill his guts. In fact, given he was hung out to dry, I suspect the week’s delay in announcing the legal action allowed time for an accommodation already with McBride. Also, the tactic in the HoC of getting Brown’s apology on the record was interesting, and may be part of the play.
Some of you people really do live in a fantasy world.
Jimmy: lets wait till the fat laddie sings, then I may remind you.
Knock yourself out. It’s just not going to happen.
Jimmy you seem sure of yourself? How come? All the evidence points in the other direction. You sound worried? (troll activity is usually related to damage and the need to deflect)
Good for Nadine! I think this should be blogged and put on websites as many times as possible!
“Paging Mr Draper! Calling Mr McBride! A message for Mr Brown!”
Drapergate and Smeargate over? No chance! Round three! Ding! Ding!
it was a bad smear , so yeah !!
She isn’t a ‘Tory Tigress’. She is a pathetic, publicity-seeking opportunist.
“opportunist” ???
This is like the Labour parties ‘political oppotunism’ statements when they have been caught out completly and utterly by the opposition and have no credible answer or valid excuse that anyone sensible of of the planet earth would ever believe.
Good grief.
I got frogging moderated!
Didn’t know that the word ‘hypocrite’ was not allowed!
Live and learn
Are you the Paul Embery of the “Grassroots FBU” that was banned by the main Fire Brigades Union in 2004 I wonder?
God, I’ve got a stalker – and a brave ‘anonymous’ one at that…! Get a life, pal.
Well done Nadine. Let the sword of truth and the shield of British fair play come down on the evil McBride!
Now, where have I heard that one before…?
Something to do with the motto of the KGB perhaps?
So, the rest of the emails will come out in the court then?
Will do much for her publicity, I dare say she’ll not need to campaign during the election if she wins
What?!
She’s not a Tory tigress. She’s an ignorant Huhne and a borderline mental case. Fortunately, on this issue, her full-on crazy is being directed against the Labour Party so I intend to sit back and eat some popcorn.
thats what i love about this country , people turning to popcorn when a national debt crisis has been bequethed to us by labour . never used to be like this clearly champagne borg have turned you to the dark side
It started in America
You’re not very bright, are you? What in the name of everliving fuck does Nadine’s proposed suit against McBride have to do with the state of the economy?
Jesus Christ, Guido, you don’t have get some drooling mongoloids shitting up your comments section with their brainless attempts to appear Torier-than-thou.
And, btw, Caesar’s wife, learn how the space bar works, you ignorant basard.
With luck it might choke you…
Wow. That’s a fucking awesome comeback, you useless bastard. Did you think it up yourself or did your big black boyfriend help you while you were sucking his cock?
Petition has stuck on 7176 for ages – wonder why…
Perhaps No.10 finishes at 5.30pm.
Bunker…………
sugest you nipover to conservative party site , interesting vid and live tv from 1:30 to 4:30 on sunday including david camerons speech and dan hannah !,
quite like it !
I’d love to sink my love missile inside nadines tory harbour!
given nadines current feelings i think you would recive a hellfire missile in the nads before you even took aim
my nads are shifty little beggars ya know
Good for you Nadine! Stick it to ‘em!
Well her solicitors will be calling for ALL emails and any correspondence under the Freedom of Information Act. She could also, as he accepted full responsibility, call Brown to Court. Wouldn’t it be grand to see him squirm in court!
Balls must be very concerned about this latest twist. The journalists who contacted Nadine about the story will be called and although they will not have to reveal their ‘source’ they will have to deny on oath that it was not McBride or others.
It gets very interesting!
If a statement is untrue the reporters won’t be able to use that privilege argument & WILL have to disclose their sources OR get locked up for contempt
I guess this was going to happen the moment Mcfcukwit (34) was hung out to dry by Brown and no inquiry was started.
Good on her, but I fear only McBrideoffrankenstein – and maybe liar-draper – will get burned.
Let’s hope they spill their guts (they won’t – you can’t if you’re gutless).
Cue Harman Pride..
Mind you, that troll’s probably the dickhead ‘Jimmy’ these days.
great idea. so any email anybody sends is now potentially libellous? If she wins this, you can forget about freedom of speech…
Yes but what was said was false as opposed to everyone knows Browns a total Hoon of the first order so thats true. So thats OK see.
There is a difference between opinion and attempting to pass off a lie as a fact.
It would be interesting if Brown could sue people who think he is a useless twunt: evidence for the people – several truckloads; evidence for Mr Brown… long pause… tumbleweed…
David,
if you still live in that country you need to realise that unless you fight for what is left of your freedoms, by any means necessary, you will lose them all!
Politicians, all politicians, most especially United Condom politicians need to see that somebody will stand up and say
NO! NO MORE! NO WAY!
Glad to see that at least some of the women back there still have some balls.
Well done, Nadine.
‘When you attack the enemy, your spirit must go to the extent of pulling the stakes out of the wall and using them as spears and halberds’
Miyamoto Musashi
Libel law is far older than fucking New Labour. McScum wrote this filthy emails and then sent then not to just one person but to several. Unless I’m very much mistaken by doing so ‘he published’ them. They were libel as even you must admit.
You’re a hoon who would shout Fire! in a crowded cinema. Grow up.
Just hit the Breaking News on Sky, knocking off “Tony Blair says 50p tax rate is a mistake”, with Frank Field sticking the knife in. More of this and a Grand Prix tomorrow!
Breaking News ????? – this was Telegraph Headline this morning – I suppose they’ve been in editorial conference all day awaiting the go ahead to break it ?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/budget/5216307/Tony-Blair-opposes-new-50-pence-tax-rate-for-high-earners.html
Dickhead.
Is there some way he could be beheaded slowly?
Yes with a very blunt saw
use the wrong edge!
spoon?
The work experince person who covers at the weekend has nipped out across the road for a “Big Mac” with Double Fries ?
P>S. Count now at 7270 so perhaps they’re back ?
Oh yeah? Let’s wait & see what the outcome is. Incidentally, who gave her ‘opportunity’? Oh yes, McBride.
Good for her!
It’ll be very interesting to hear what McBride has to say under oath!
Do you mind ? ‘Libelling’ is the spelling. This is not America.
did it not start there?
Could be a case for a “class action” against McSnotty as the yanks don’t like him keep using them as an excuse for him bankrupting the UK economy
Now that would be a class action.
Oh, I see, she’s a very naughty girl. I mean, protecting her name from vicious labour smears. What a publicity-seeking opportunist! There was me thinking she’d been criminally wronged by a labour party thug and ex-spin doctor with credibility issues.
Idiot.
Oh, yes. The way to react to degrading and humiliating smears about your personal life is to hawk yourself around every media outlet in the business in an attempt to draw even greater attention to them.
Like I said, a pathetic, publicity-seeking opportunist.
Paul E: The way to make people think that you are indeed guilty of whatever you’ve been ‘smeared’ over, is to keep stumm and hope the ‘rumours’ will go away.
I’v eno doubt Labour wou’d have spread such rumours about ANY atractive woman on the the Tory benches. We just happen to know about this one – whom they loathe and targeted because she followed her conscience in the matter of abortion
And like I said: idiot.
I think we agree.
‘You Couldn’t Make It Up’
She could have released a short statement denying the allegations and indicating that she was considering legal action. Job done. The fact that she went much further and prostituted herself before every TV, radio and newspaper company in the land to tells its own story. A publicity-seeking opportunist.
In Labours case and particularly PM’s don’t they just pop round for a cup of tea these days and then nothing to see move on please?
They got clean away with ‘cash for honours’ so I would not be surprised to see similar happen here.
But this case won’t have to rely on the CPS to go to court.
W.W.
Depends who she sues. In cases of racism or sexism most actions are against the employers not the employee personally. I am not a lawyer and I would imagine that the company is sued is that in the case of success the payout is much larger.
So who was MacBride’s employer the Civil Service or the Labour Party and who was his legal boss.
I would have thought Civil Service
&
Head of Civil Service (in this case)
Sadly Broon may have the head of Civil Service firewall between him and McPoison unless of course their is a smoking email?
THe statement Issued to the press by MacBride not the letter states that “It has been a pleasure to work for Gordon Brown in both the Treasury and Downing Street.”
Thats was the big argument though was it not? Paid by the civil service (taxpayer) so should have been impartial but wasn’t. His boss was officially Gus O’donnell though he worked as an advisor for the PM office.
Normally in this sort of case the employer doesn’t have to accept vicarious liability – UNLESS it can be proven that spreading crap & libel WAS part of his normal everyday function then his employer would be liable – In other words the Civil Service which no longer enjoys Crown Immunity
If the lawsuit serves to emphasise the appalling lack of clarity between the civil service and ‘party political’ roles of SPADs and to ensure it can never happen again in the future, it will serve a great purpose. The wholesale suborning of the Civil Service for party ends has been one of the most evil and destructive results of the NuLab regime
As for comparisons, Tories like Aitken and Gower were ‘freelances’.
McBride and Draper are ‘institutional sleaze’ and with luck this lawsuit will demonstrate that truth
Interesting point. McScum was acting in his capacity as a Special Advisor, so it could be argued he was doing Labour Party work, not State business even though he is on teh civil service payroll.
Get tae Carter-Ruck Jimmy
Let’s hope so.
She is one feisty lady on a mission.
She’s a fox
Thanks for the European Parliament clip at 109.
Twats of a feather.
Perhaps the two homes Secretary has already asked Kinnock N. and Kinnock G. how she and sticky-Dicky Timney can join this money-making scam as their next taxpayer-plundering career . . .
Who did McBride address his resignation letter to would be interesting to know.
Sir Gus O’Donnell
“Guido knows for a fact that the untrue story about her was given to some journalists,”
Yes. By you. Remember?
So better to leave it lie then and allow the smear to proceed by the very people you are now defending? Yeah I get the logic …NOT!
Good god I knew Labour were in the gutter but this is in the sewer.
Clutching at straws, you are. Seek help, you should.
No Jimmy, McBride let it out to some of your slimy liebour friends and trade union pigs sponging off the backs of hard working families.
First funny thing you have said ever. You have gone up in Guido’s estimation. Prior to the revelations SVP.
So have you been served yet?
Snotty in the dock, Snotty in the dock, eiadio, Snotty in the dock!
Next time Snotty sends a letter of regret he might spell her name correctly and not write it with a chair leg.
I have tried four times to sign this petition, but the promised E-mail to complete the process never arrives.
And, I have read somewhere that the Great Dickhead Darling is in Washington, “in talks with the IMF” That is bloody frightening, or maybe I am just becoming paranoid. What has the slimy fucker got to discuss except……………….?
Is it time to get my money out of dollars and back into sterling?
To the tune of ‘Any old Iron’
Just a week or two ago my poor old Uncle Bill,
Went and kicked the bucket and he left me in his will.
The other day I popped around to see poor Auntie Jane,
She said “Your Uncle Bill has left to you a watch and chain.”
I put it on right across my vest,
Thought I looked a dandy as it dangled on my chest.
Just to flash it off I started walking ’round about,
A lot of nippers followed me and all began to shout:
CHORUS
Any old iron, any old iron, any, any, any, old iron?
You look neat – talk about a treat,
You look dapper from your napper to your feet.
Dressed in style, brand new tile,
And your father’s old green tie on,
But I wouldn’t give you tuppence for your old watch chain,
Old iron, old iron?
I went to the City once and thought I’d have a spree.
The Mayor of London, he was there, that’s who I went to see.
He dashed up in a canter with a carriage and a pair,
I shouted “Holler boys” and threw my hat up in the air.
Just then the Mayor he began to smile,
Saw my face and then he shouted “Lumme what a dial!”
Started a-Lord Mayoring and I though that I should die
When pointing to my watch and chain he hollered to me “Hi!”
(CHORUS)
Just to have a little bit of fun the other day,
Made up in my watch and chain I went and drew my pay.
Then got out with a lot of other Colonels on the loose,
I got full right up to here in fourp’ny stagger juice.
One of them said “We want a pot of ale
Run him to the rag shop and bung him on the scale.”
I heard the fellow say “What’s in this bundle that you’ve got”
Then whisper to me kindly “Do you want to lose your lot?”
(CHORUS)
Shan’t forget when I got married to GORDON Brown.
The way the people laughed at me, it made me feel a clown.
I began to wonder, when their dials began to crack,
If by mistake I’d got my Sunday trousers front to back.
I wore my chain on my Darby Kell’,
The sun was shining on it and it made me look a swell.
The organ started playing and the bells began to ring,
My chain began to rattle so the choir began to sing.
(CHORUS)
The G7 are there but it’s sinister as I bet Darling had a quiet word with the IMF – like “help”
Poll Alert******************************************************
Massive Tory Poll lead of 27%
Tories 49%
Labour 22%
LD 14%
yawn…….. and the link is where? then we will see how good this is.
Bollox.
Put up or shut up
Grow up and wait until the poll is published on politicalbetting.com
hoh hum – we get one of these every week here and they are never correct.
Jings – what a couple of days!
We’ve had Starkey doing more to big up the end of the Tories in Scotland and the Union we all hate through his inane comments on Question Time. Darling’s total failure on Wednesday to woo the Scottish voter. (SNP support up 20 points on GE voting intentions)
Now we have Nadine attempting to force Labour to face up to the impact of their actions in court! I hope the her lawyers are more switched on than either Strathclyde or Lothians and Borders police.
There will be a lot of Millbank IT section overtime at Labour HQ this weekend duplicating then scrubbing hard drives on their main server, desk tops and lap tops prior to reloading them with sanitised data then sending Trojans off to delete the same where ever the data is found on the Government network.
By the time the Freedom of Information Commissioner gets round to enforcing the release of the data to Nadine’s lawyer – it will be long gone except for a few sacrificial lambs to make Gordon look good.
Bullshit? Nope they did exactly that in their attempt to save Wendy Alexander’s backside from criminal prosecution in Scotland after serial breaches of PPER 2000 had been discovered. Key E-mails suddenly had been ‘accidentally removed from servers and computers’ at John Smith House and on Wendy’s computer by the time McPlod got round to asking for them while Labour were also pressing that the application of the law, in this case, was not in the public interest.
A civil action under English Law will be interesting as there is a lower standard of evidence required to convict and since there is no public prosecutor there are fewer pressure points that could cave in to Downing Street pressure – except for M’lud and the promise of a wool base seat!
You’re dead right of course!
We up here have had to endure a dictatorship and lawlessness which would be very familiar to the inhabitants of Chicago in the thirties!
The difference is now, under beans dictatorship, the morris dancers are now understanding what we have had to put up with for a generation!
Lets hope she gets Judge Eady then it’ll be a done deal
McBride, fucked you are.
Am I as well?
No. You are a Protocol Droid. Only Droids of Terpsichore are permitted to perform the tackiest tango.
Aroooooooo!
Quango tackier, it is.
There is a great disturbance in the farce, R2. Fuck knows.
News of the world running the story tomorrow, says she is sueing downing street as that is were the emails originated.
Oh shit!
Sueing mcbride as well.
From NOTW:
“She has decided to sue Downing Street because the e mails were sent from a Number 10 e mail account.”
Now, you and I know that you can sue a person. I’ve yet to hear about a successful action against a street address. So, when “Downing Street” is sued WHO is actually in the Dock? Yes, I know who we all HOPE it will be… please God, please… but I’d like to know who it will actually be.
Downing Street! bad idea – best to sue Draper & McPoison personally then when she wins she can bankrupt the buggers with legal costs cos sure as eggs are eggs no lawyer in the land is going to offer those muppets a CFA (No win No Fee) agreement so they’ll have to pay through the nose for legal representation – also she can still force no.10 to disclose the emails – whereas if she sues no 10 & wins it’ll be us poor sods who’ll be paying – & broons a gonna anyway
Starkey in trouble with the McMafia for calling them a “feeble little country”:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8016440.stm
Refuses to apologise. Good precedent not to apologise or resign already set by thieving McBroon & the McCabinet.
Go for it Mr Starkey!
Starkey makes as much sense as Zippy from Rainbow. Just wish someone would fit a zip on him too.
He’s always so up his own rectum – bitter old tart just because they didn’t give him a professorship. he thinks he’s cornered the market in Henry VIII and lots of queens, but he’s very droll.
His rant is yet another stake in the heart of scottish unionism.
How absolutely…
Fucking delicious!
Just need to follow Draper around for a week or so. The imbecile’s ego always gets in the way of his keeping his trap shut so you just need a parabolic microphone et voilá, instant libel witness!
And she looks such a sweetheart too. But as they say, “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned…”
Go for the jugular darlin.
Ah’ve been luckeh so far…….
She is a real heroiiiiiiiiine………go for it!!
It is quite plane to see the increased viciousnes
in the posts from NL scum against Nadine. This
shows how they must be shitting themselves
over what could be revealed and who may be in
the frame.
Nadine is going for it, it has just been anounced
on TV.
Will back stabbing now be the favourite passtime
in number ten
Nadine we love you !!!
Hm, wondering where to fit Starker’s zip now.
I’m glad he hasn’t apologised. That’s is how debates are meant to be, I defend his right to stand by his own opinions.
Fuck the pc totalitarians!
If Starkers got enough air time he would single-handedly turn people away from the right. He comes across as a nasty, bitter little man imho and nasty, bitter little men don’t help anyone win elections.
I agree – Starkey is perfectly entitled to his opinions and his delivery is incisive and witty.
The over-heated reaction of some of the more po – faced Nats reveals more about them. Starkey should tell`em to fuck off.
On the topic – I would not be surprised if that slippery wee hoon Doogie Alexander was involved in the smears – only way he got a seat in the first place was by hounding his gay (but honest and popular) predecessor to commit suicide by snide rumour and innuendo.
I would not be surprised if that slippery wee hoon Doogie Alexander was involved in the smears ”
Agreed-I have also thought that about the little S..T
Amazing. Scots, Irish and Welsh Nats have been insulting the English for years, egged on by the swivel eyed ashamed self loathing English lefties….so Starks gives them a bit back and its OH BOO HOO, he should apologise… racist etc etc….
Ah, I see you’re point. If other people talk rubbish we should talk rubbish too! And by the way, I’m the only swivel eye allowed in this thread, thank you very much.
I totally agree Anon. I’ve never worn a kilt, or liked Burns, but it doesn’t stop me being proud of my heritage. I may not agree with his opinion, but I’d support Starkey’s (or anyone else’s) right to say whatever they want. It’s called freedom of speech – if someone is insulted by what you say, it’s them that has the problem.
I’d give one to Nadine. Yay for Tory Tigresses!
Slip her one, I think you mean.
Gordon will only go when he’s told to.
Follow link……
You must really love fox news
Screw their fat bloated arses to the deck and then give them a good judicial kicking – I know its letting them off lightly but its the least they deserve.
I am surprised at the low quality of your trolls. Being a naive Yank I just thought, you know, that being English and all, they would flash some wit. Just not happening, though. It’s one thudding clay foot in front of the other.
Post some wit then. We’re willing to learn.
You consider yourself a troll? I hadn’t kept track.
Erm, everyone here is a troll. Haven’t you noticed?
Troll test, rule the first:
Denigrates site owner = troll.
Does not denigrate site owner = non-troll.
Needless to say, there are exceptions.
Have never forgiven the yank colonists for dumping perfectly good tea in the harbour. An outrage.
At least they didn’t sail a ship into one of your offiice towers.
At least they didn’t sail a ship into one of your offiice towers.”
Thats ‘cos a ship can’t get near enough for the shit flowing down the thames from the city and No 10!
Look you’re obviously NOT been keeping track -Don’t you know that IT started in America ? Gordon’s continually telling the British public(domestic UK consumption only ye understand ? It’s no fer repeating over “the pond” na na I’m Obama’s First Friend ye know- despite that set of fucking DVDs he gave me on ma last visit that I canna play on ma DVD Player)that its all the fucking yanks fault that the British economy’s in the shit !!!! Nuthin to do with me. It’s all those sub-prime wankers in the states – the British Economy was in fine form under my canny stewardship AND the ungrateful bastards at the G20 kept keeping me out o’ camera shot- how the hell am I going t’get enough material for my TV election broadcast to the grateful nation – I saved the Word after all y’know !!!
Then there were the plastic helicopters from the White House gift shop presented by Mrs. Obama. Look, I realize you don’t like Mr. Brown, but let’s be clear on one aspect of Mr. Brown’s visit to America. The classless, shitty Wal-Mart gifts presented to him were not an attempt to make some sort of statement on the part of Team Obama. The sad little bastards simply didn’t know any better. Sure, they could have just let the long-established White House Office of Protocol handle everthing – had they known it existed.
Similarly, the customary joint press conference was torpedoed not because of any particular sentiment about Mr. Brown, but because Mr. Obama would have had to answer questions sans teleprompter.
Mr. Obama is currently putting in grueling 40-hour weeks, a level of effort the man never exerted before in his entire life. Has to keep busy, got a country to destroy. A big one.
And you think you’re screwed.
http://scarymarytory.blogspot.com/2009/04/iain-dales-downfall.html
Scary Mary, I can’t be bothered to visit your blog. Why not post what you’ve got to say here?
Not bad for a beginner Mary.
Excellent, very funny.
Good stuff, Scary
A Tory tigress, maybe. Big on self promotion, yes. A bit dim, certainly.
This is the woman who believes that a foetus can punch its way out of its mother’s womb.
And her blog has any comment that disagrees with the fragrant Nadine deleted pronto.
Rooooaaaaarr!!!
More of a bark I’d say as she is a bit of a fox.
She’s welcome to join me on the hunt anytime. I’d like to see her in jodhpurs, getting a bit handy with the old riding crop. And that’s before she mounts up. Damned fine filly.
can anyone tell me how to contract Guido other than via this open forum?
am on his side etc….
We don’t want him contracted we want him expanded (no comments about tight fitting tee-shirts though please)
I don’t believe it’s contagious.
Or did you mean “contact”?
goto comment 113 look to next column rhs,or look below messagespace ad and above google ad in middle column all will be revealed
Yes. His email and contact number are on the right of the blog column.
It’s here now
guido.fawkes@order-order.com
What’s worked for me in the past, is post it here but put “PRIVATE, FOR GUIDO’s EYES ONLY” at the top.
There will be no general election. How do I know? The swine flu currently festering in mexico/north america will turn into a global pandemic, similar to 1918 spanish flu. This will kill approx 1/3 of the population – many of them young workers – causing another crisis to add the the shit we are already in. Snotgobbler – he and his cabinet being among the first to recieve massive doses of Relenza and Tamiflu to keep them alive – will declare a state of emergency, ban elections for a decade, and rule the country from his sanitised, protective, flu-proof bunker. Have a restful evening…
Relenza and Tamiflu, due to higher than expected demand and PCT cost pressures, and in line with NICE guidance, will only be available to card carrying members of the Labour party.
It’s not a bunker, it’s a sty.
Frightening but weirdly true. If you look at the plans for a flu pandemic, state workers get the first doses of Tamiflu. Don’t be surprised if Gordy sends some dispensible staffers over to Mexico to pick up the sniffles!!
That must be why the public sector is still hiring like there’s no tomorrow…
I got my family’s supply of Tamiflu in ages ago (and before the govt. bought it)
Since it lasts for years….
It only works if you use it as soon as you get ill. Turning up at hospital with bad symptoms means you’re too late…
Now where do I get those face masks???
Good luck Nadine, unfortunately, the truth can be covered up by bribes, threats and scum that pervade positions of authority.
Harman leading Labour into the general election could make a difference…
Yes, an even bigger collapse in the vote. Harpy would be Broon with breasts.
He’s got breasts
It’s irrelevant who leads them now – a landslide is a landslide! They have screwed themselves and the country over for at least a generation.
Trouble is the public have a short memory. The tories will have to make some very unpopular decisions to put the country back on its feet and unpick a decade of labour foul-ups. Won’t be long before the public sector unions are out on the streets wailing, bin bags uncollected, bodies unburied, hospitals un-staffed.
Hope Cameron has the guts to call in the army and sort the bastards out.
Yeah ratsniffer but the Tories can blame it on labour for the next 10- 20 years & actually be telling the truth
Ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha!ha! Please God let it be so!!!!!!!!!
Sure would. No sane man in the country would vote for her. That could be a bit of a problem, don’t you think?
“… deliberately libeling … ”
Senor Guido
ScHocking – scocchinghissimo
Schpelling
This is an Educational Blogge much-inspiring for Ladies, Children & other Animals
…. libeLLing …
!!!
Trust the Tories to get some top totty in their ranks, good show i say. Damn sight better than that jimmy cranky clone Hazel Blears and Jacqui Five Bellies Smith.
Rather like Beckett myself. Mind you I do have a horse fetish.
I LOVE Jacqui Smith. What’s wrong with the women that a couple of adult movies won’t fix?
I wonder if nadine takes it up the back door?
246, you sir are a cad. Only a bounder would imply this fine figure of a woman admits visitors via the tradesmen’s entrance. Go outside with a fine pair of dueling pistols and shoot yourself in the head twice, sir.
How about you then colonel? fancy a quick shufty?
This lady has suffered no ‘damage’ and seems strong enough to conquer ‘hurt feelings’, she has gained very sympathetic publicity, the damage is to Gordon and co, a court case would be the best party political broadcast the tories would ever get.
I think you’ll find that libel has nothing to do with “hurt feelings”.
We were sued for libel by local authority head of planning and the particulars of claim listed ‘hurt feelings’ (we were surprised) along with the usual.
Good on her. The only way to teach these odious people a lesson is via their wallets!
Always look on the bright side of life!
http://subrosa-blonde.blogspot.com/
Do we have to do the first bit and the middle bit in this case can’t we just go straight to the ‘anging judge and cut out all the crap?
She is one hot chick. I certainly would.
Guido I usually enjoy your blog. I don’t agree with your cynical take on politicians, in the end I think many try and do the best they can. Spend a morning in a politicians surgery to see the stuff they deal with all the time.
But I think your astringent approach can illuminate dark corners and achieve real results.
So why you celebrate this mediocre (at best) politican I have no idea. Nadine Dorries is a sign of everything that’s wrong with politics. Wedded to a single issue (abortion) and at best well intentioned at worst stupid. Check out what Ben Goldacre has to say about her at badscience.net.
What will she achieve in the next government? She is just political baggage that will be carried into power at the next election. She isn’t good enough. It’s MP’s like this you should really be gunning for.
Frankly I’d rather have a smart MP fiddling expenses who has two brain cells to rub together than this awful woman.
She is indeed a modest woman, with much to be modest about.
I must say what little I have seen of her, I tend to agree.
She doesn’t strike me as one of the sharpest tools in the box.
W.W
A beautiful name it is Dorris Nadine. No? She may be known as a blunt tool in box but the hammer is heavy on the top and can be done great damage to fingernails if there are any left on the hand before.
Mr Phartparpov – great analogy.
How often do they have surgeries? Once a month? Bloody useless. Inconvenient times too. As for Ben Goldacre, he’s a typical arrogant Guardian prick. Did anyone see him on Newsnight a few weeks ago? His attitude just invited a punch. That’s not to say what he has to say on bogus science is wrong. I am sure he is usually right. However, Nadine has every right to be concerned about abortion on demand and late terminations.
I seem to recall that Ben Goldacre is another of these global warming religionists. So I wouldn’t trust his opinions on any other area of science with independently checking.
Bollocks. “withOUT independently checking.”
Oh, OK, Dave.
So it is perfectly acceptable for someone to be smeared and libelled if you do not agree with them on a totally irrelevant topic?
I do not agree with her views on abortion. But only a real crass act (yes that is the correct spelling) would argue that they would rather have a parliament of fraudsters.
Christ, Dave. What’s it like living in a moral vacuum?
I’m a bit concerned about my mate Twin Bin. He got posted to Downing Street and I haven’t heard from him for a while now.
Laser printer? Not in Downing Street. It’s the 1970′s here so we are struggling with dot matrix. Can throw them further anyway.
Ouch !
These legal cases can last months, if not years in some cases. Not expecting this to be wrapped up with a double bow yet. There is a twist to this tale yet…
Amazing how comedy is actually real life.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/brown-somehow-manages-to-make-total-arse-of-mps%27-expenses-200904221717/
You COULDNT MAKE IT UP!!!
What has this nation come to!!
I believe the point that a few people are missing is that this is quite a clever strategy. The issue is not about whether or not Nadine was slandered or libelled (I think she was btw), but one of keeping the story of Labour’s disgusting spin machine topical and in the eye of the public. I doubt she is doing this without the support of Cameron.
For those who mistakenly believe that Cameron is going to easy on Brown, I think this shows some steel. Don’t forget that in PMQ this week that apart from Nadine, no other Tories were attempting to be called by the Speaker. This indicates direction from the leadership and whips to enforce discipline. Positive signs that Cameron has the party under his control and that his strategic leadership is respected.
The other great thing about Nadine Dorries is that she is a very typical, normal decent middle-England woman, and very attractive to that important voting demographic. Very, very foolish of Brown, McBride and the lackeys to target her. But then again, no surprise that they goof up on this, as they do on everything else.
“Don’t forget that in PMQ this week that apart from Nadine, no other Tories were attempting to be called by the Speaker. This indicates direction from the leadership and whips to enforce discipline.”
This indicates that on Budget Day not one of them had an intelligent question to ask.
PMQ was before the budget; and in any case:
“It is considered a golden rule in politics that Budgets that look good on the day, start to look poor by the weekend and vice versa. This week’s Budget has broken the rule. It didn’t look very good on the day. Now it looks worse.” – The Times, Leader, Sat 25 April 2009
“The economy shrank at its worst rate in 30 years in the first quarter, contracting faster than predicted by Alistair Darling and casting doubt on forecasts the chancellor made in his Budget just three days ago. The 1.9 per cent contraction in the first three months of the year is an embarrassment for Mr Darling, who expected the fall to be similar to the 1.6 per cent fall in output at the end of last year.” – Financial Times, Fri 24 April 2009
Who pays you to write this crap, dickhead? Are you paid by the word or by the bucket?
Jimmy: That comment just shows your envy and jealousy.
It was good wheeze and well you know it. Besides, it was actually a democratic response to the unparliamentary action of the despicable and incompetent Mr Martin from Glasgow, who would not allow Ms Dorries a pre-arranged quesion.
Sour grapes will get you no where!
You’ve obviously never tried to pull in a wine bar.
No answer to the point that budget was a disaster and based on dishonest forecast.
Jimmy: C for effort, E for attainment.
You’re quite right. I apologise. I just don’t expect to find anyone interested in politics here.
Calling the forecast dishonest is mere abuse. It may be right, it may be wrong. The IMF’s forecasting track record is hardly flawless. the beauty of it is, next year we’ll be able to see whether or not they were on the right lines and they’ll stand or fall by that. That’s as it should be.
Jimmy
Darling had hardly got his sorry arse back down on the bench and his forecast was shown to be total utter crap. Do please at least try to keep up.
@ Jimmy. Thank you.
Please note that the word ‘dishonest’ is not intended to be gratuitously abusive, but as a fair description of the Chancellor’s behaviour. It was not truthful in terms of its forecasts and certainly not trustworthy.
The revised (downward) forecast was actually that provided by our own government’s Office of National Statistics, not the IMF.
A sign that someone has the party under control but it’s certainly not cameron, he’s a puppet
If she wasn’t a Tory and didn’t have the winning of the next general election to look forward to, I’d would advice the lovely Ms Dorries to take the money and run especially to warmer climes, but not Mexico i hear they’re dropping like flies over there which is a bugger when tring to find new lawn mowing staff for the plantation one owns near Mexico boo haaaaa.
mmm Tory Tigress? She seems a bit of a nut job and a liar, not averse to defaming other people. It’ll be fun seeing her exposed for what she is. But hey, Guido Fawkes is a fan so he’ll be tarred with the same brush, so I guess its’ win-win.
Not at all. Guido published the libel, so it’s Dorries v Fawkes.
It’s a shame somebody has to win.
Never heard of her before, is she the one who was said to be shagging someone?
Labour machine spinning but no-one with an IQ above 1 believing it.
Right – so they’d just put out a false rumor about a tory MP who no one really knew much about and who was a bit of a walking liability anyway?
Which one was the coke head?
I believe!!
Things can only get betterrr!!
…can only get betterrrr
can only get betterrrrr
Now labour’s dead…..
O/T but what the hell. Did anyone notice that the last election when the Tories lost power to New Labour (12 years ago) all the Conservatives’ speeches were delivered from a podium with the words “Britain is booming” written acrross it. Well, electorate, look what you got.
They also had ones saying ‘New Labour: New Taxes’ and how right they where!!! but the general population of goldfishes and amoeba brains just wouldn’t listen.
No wonder the old boys don’t want to rush themselves into this battlezone just yet or call for a vote of no confidence, who would want to do all the hard work fixing everything, putting us back into black with a safe economy, win the wars against our liberties and then be tossed aside again just like 1997.
NuLabour Nu Danger
“Never heard of her before, is she the one who was said to be shagging someone?”
You’ll have to ask Guido. All I know is what he gave to the papers.
Now now Damien old boy one must not sip too many sherrys before posting all sorts on the internet, it’s bad form don’t you know.
So am I to understand from these messages that Jimmy is/could be Mr Damian MacBride or is he just someone trying to stir things up?
I think that’s the theory, although others have been floated.
Thank you for that.
It is by the bucket, isn’t it, dickhead…
You mean to say it wasn’t Colonel Custard in the Library with the Vase??
I thought it was a demented twat in the cabinet office with a laser printer?
Labour has been plunged into a fresh storm after a leaked email suggested that Olympics Minister Tessa Jowell promised money from the 2012 Games in exchange for the selection of a family friend as a General Election candidate.
Miss Jowell stands accused of trying to ‘bribe’ a private meeting in the Erith and Thamesmead constituency by telling party members that if they selected Georgia Gould as their candidate, the area would be in a good position to benefit from the £9billion Olympics budget, which Miss Jowell controls.
In an email, written the day after this month’s meeting and seen by The Mail on Sunday, 22-year-old Miss Gould – the daughter of Tony Blair’s poll guru Lord Gould – wrote: ‘I hosted a great meeting last night for Tessa Jowell, the Minister for the Olympics. Tessa spoke with real passion about the opportunities for investment that will result from the Olympics …
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1173566/Tessa-Jowell-Olympic-bribe-email-plunges-Labour-fresh-storm.html
Slightly off topic I guess, and from the Daily Wail, but it gives us an excuse to mention the ‘tory tigress’ nadine and how she was selected to be a candidate
Just read this, just a journo trying to make something from nothing, so the area will benefit from the Olympics, it’ll do that regardless of who is the mp.
This is goiung back to the type of crap that was put out pre 97 and got NL elected in the first place. Chose to believe it if you want but it’s lazy crap
o/t but more important……..
darling wanted more cuts-but guess who stopped him?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1173547/Even-Darling-thinks-Budget-doesnt-add-relations-Brown-hit-time-low.html
yes-the man who wants to help us all………..not!
ffs! cant he be sectioned? or tried for treason?
every sane person in the world knows that we have to stop pissing money down the drain!
the country cannot afford another year of this hoon.
Looks as if there is yet more leaking from the Blair camp. Brown is in a tailspin and I cannot believe that he last another 14 months. Well, either he can’t or we don’t.
Yes – looking sicker by the minute, the hoon.
As I mention in my blog, this is the worst thing that can happen to Brown. The case will keep the scandal alive right up to the election. Female voters will not like a party which attacks women in the most sexist…and unattractive manner. More than that, he has no control of what will come out….would you commit perjury to protect Brown???
it must be eating him alive…..shame
Goon point, anon126… Very bad for Brown. And for certain female members of the Labour Party, too…
whatever happened to Feminism in the Labour Party? Text to be displayed
How many of these posters seem to think that the return of the tories will solve all of our problems? They don’t quite grasp that life under tories is just as bad as labour. they are both the same tribe of self-serving, career politicians, that are all members of the same cosy club. For a safe seat mp, life in opposition is far easier than in government, as the spotlight is off you, thereby leaving you in peace to get on with trousering funds as we see with people like Eric Pickles and Derek Conway. to name just two. Could you really see Cameron and Osbourne making a better fist of things than Brown and Darling. After all, this is the party that brought us Archer, Aitken, Mellor, Parkinson, Ridley, Hamilton, and of course the one who hung himself with stockings whilst sucking on an orange and whacking off. Richard Timney, eat your heart out, your just an amateur.
In the real world, you see somebody like Ms lumley, for instance, presenting her case with dignity, passion and honesty, and you juxtapose that with PMQs, and see the preening, smug arseholes living their dream and think that there has to be a different way of governance. Christ! I’ve just realised i’ve proposed Ms Lumley for prime minister, how sad am i? Still, i’d prefer to have her defending my interests than 656 others i can name
The old boys will bring back fox hunting which will be a jolly good wheeze I say.
BOO HAAAA
I’m sure you and the foxes have a lot in common
Now you know it’s bad form to spill the beans about what we get up to with the foxy ladies down at the society lodge old boy.
I know. I can hear you at the bottom of the garden every night.
Dear sir, old boy!!
Well if the Tories win at least Cameron will have been elected by the English, unlike that fucking one eyes Nokia phone throwing laser printer destroying skirt wearing fuck twat McSnot.
If we’re going to have an idiot at least Cameron will be OUR idiot.
Vote labour Vote tory Vote xmas
Good English name Cameron.
Actually a scottish name but also a very popular christian name in Australia. Did lots of Scots go to Oz as convicts or economic migrants?
I can think of at least one more we could send them
“Actually a scottish name”
I was being ironic.
I can think of many more! And why are you anonymous? Are you shy or do you have something to hide?
I know you were being ironic!
I was just being pedantic.
Did lots of Scots go to Oz as convicts or economic migrants?
Australia was mainly English and Irish. Lot of English kids called Liam and Ryan these days. Doesn’t mean their parents have Irish roots. It does tell you something about them though.
No, just unafilliated
“I know you were being ironic!”
Ah sorry, looks like it’s to put my eye on the bedpost and snuggle down for the night.
Damn it. I said sorry. What I should have said was I regret …
Are you sure the English can be trusted to vote? After all they voted in Blair, Mandy, Prezza, Harman, Vaz, Smith, and the guy with the guide dog, 3 times in a row.
Funny how detractors can’t spell, can’t use apostrophes or capitalise words correctly and get the spelling of peoples’ names wrong.
Credibility issue, here.
That aside, anyone would do a better job than this lot of pissants. They have p*ssed our beloved country up the wall.
They should be shot.
Grammar is such a tricky issue isn’t it?
I know mine leaves a lot to be desired, which is why I only ever point out bad grammar in posts that criticise other people’s grammar.
“peoples’ names” would imply you are talking about the names of peoples.
“people’s names” is what you’re looking for because your are, I believe, talking about the names of people.
I’m sorry for nitpicking. Damn it, I’ll have to stop saying sorry.
And there’s my own bad spelling. “your are” should say “you are”.
Gud Nite Oll.
What bit of Labour are corrupt, incompetent shites don’t you understand?
YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. ‘Nightmare’ for Downing Street as Damian McBride faces Commons grilling whose exited! as he sidles down a dark alley with a spring in his step whoopee (keeping a straight face). Whose plane stupid I am joint owner, warning to mods will sleep like a baby tonight, fingers crossed, this bottle finished I could eat a Murphy fry, deep fried in snake oil, with lashings of that Brown sauce, forget its name, followed with a toasted McBridie. Anyone else happy? and no I am not biased.
Landed.
At least your not a Tony Martin fan old chap or we’d off been as dead as the dodo’s!!
Tony Martin shot vermin, not foxes
Hard to tell in the moonlight dear boy what one might be blasting with the old thundergauze without one’s glass eye and monocle firmly attached!!! It’s a damn nuisance having to replace the servants when that happens!!! booooooo haaaa!!!
What the fuck? Nadine is a publicity-seeking wench.
As if it’s fair to sue someone for a private email?
Using your own perverted reasoning, McBride is a publicity-seeking … err, w*anker.
Oh, and what’s private about a politically-motivated email sent to political activists, civil servants and SpAds, using a government email facility?
Ever sent a personal e-mail from work?
Will she be able to call Gordon Brown as a relevant witness should the case go to trial?
Why, was he in her room as well?
bob – maybe something in that. The Tory tactic of getting Brown to apologise in the HoC this week was clearly rehearsed.
Naw At best he’ll do a ‘statement of truth’ & I suspect it’ll be a 1st
The initiation of legal action by Tory MP Nadine Dories against a hard working civil servant who has recently had the misfortune to lose his job (in the middle of a recession that started in America) is both vexious and vindictive. Vexious because he never actually published the email. He simply sent it to his very good friend Dr Draper for a second opinion. After consideration they both then realised what they were doing was both very juvenile and wrong and immediately deleted it. They have subsequently both apologised after the private email was leaked and then published by the Tory press. It is vindictive because this action is being funded by wealthy Tories who have little interest in this matter other then to use it as a vessel to create damaging publicity in an attempt to embarrass Gordon Brown. This is simply being used as a diversion to cover over the facts that the modern Conservative party has no policies to help hard working families and businesses as they struggle with the consequences of the world recession. Only the Labour party cares about ordinary working people and it is to be regretted that a Tory MP is trying to fuel this story further and push what was really just a juvenile prank into the Civil Courts who probably have far better things to do.
I wonder what the Court of Public Opinion will think of this.
Do you reckon this is your moment, Harperson?
Finally someone else here who’s not a swivel-eyed nutter.
it is stanislav , that is so funny HP , bustin my sides
I think this is GF just winding us all up to get the hits up.
Brilliant HP.
Hysterical!
Weather looks good for tomorrow!
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1173566/Tessa-Jowell-Olympic-bribe-email-plunges-Labour-fresh-storm.html
These people are just like the bolsheviks in Russia. Oust the old aristocracy and just become the new aristocracy themselves, with an hereditary caste and privileged.
Coming to Erith and Thamesmead soon……Dynasty
Bunch of Tessas the lot of them. The last thing Erith & Thamesmead needs is a parachuted Oxford graduate with no world experience of anything. The area has suffered enough already when the best it can offer is an identikit Morrisons store and an imposed high-security prison. Even the good schools were ruined. Wellbeloved tried and failed. Kent, then LCC then GLC. Boundary redrawn so that can be ignored. A string of failure and neglect. Transport system that is laughable. Dickens would turn in his grave.
Olympics benefit to Erith? None whatsoever.
You forgot to mention the Thameswater Sewage Works which have the whole place stinking of shit for days on end. You are absolutely correct however parachuting Miss Gould in as an MP is a total fucking joke. Voters of Erith and Thamesmead punish them at the next election.
Fuck these hoons right up their shitters !
Translated. ” I will be asking the law to fully ptotect me from untrue allegations and ensure that those who spread them are discouraged from doing so.”
The petition has now hit 8011
Next target: overtake a petition about BBC horseracing coverage (I’m surprised that’s even a runner, but then the BBC’s complaints department is rather more expert than No 10 in burying stories it doesn’t like).
I can’t help feeling an important landmark will be when it overtakes the petition for not giving Margaret Thatcher a state funeral, proving that Brown is more hated than she is, albeit mostly by different people.
Do you have a link to the Thatcher one?
A state funeral for letting the Argies invade our Falklands? I don’t think so.
Talking of the Argies, I see they are getting a bit above themselves again. Could this be Brown’s “Thatcher moment”, although I don’t think there are enough ships now?
Thanks to options for change
Who pays the damages. Is it a direct hit on McBride or on his employer the Government (AKA the public purse)?
Well I hope both. We don’t know the tactics yet, but my bet would be that the pressure will be on to get McBride to squeal – faced with financial ruin (or a spot of porridge if he perjures himself), he’s likely to spill the beans. He’s not the target, just collateral damage.
Nadine do not even think about it. Just get on with your life.
The Brown denials were very careful weren’t they?
Denying knowledge of the e mail correspondence. OK, we can believe that .
But he has never denied knowledge of the Red Rag project or the general purposes to which it was to be put. Why? Because he can’t. Because Draper briefed him on it – I mean why wouldn’t he?
ok folks heres tuggers top 10 in at
no 1 nadines gives mcbrides nads a good kicking
no2 mcavoy family members mysterious 400k pub loan (money on it being from rbs , rock or hbos)
no3 jowell sprints for brown envelope to help britains got corruption star julia gould
no4 vince tangos round budget and declares it aint never gonna dance
no5 peter mandelson declares , i am not rally in the labour party
no6 browns mps expenses idea flops and is forced to sack his 5 yr old advisor .
no7 darling and pm hit new low in row over whos copyrights the creative talents aspect of the budget are
no8 boris seen on TV talking without meandering
no9 andrew lloyd webber upset at labour for making a new smash hit musical called “the phantom of the budget deficiet”
no10 business suddenly look into the crystal ball , and see palm trees and sandy beaches and begin ordering travell cases big enough to take cash
Even the Cabinet is placing bets at the bookies that Gordon will lose the election !!!!!!!!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6169072.ece
loved this bit:
“William Hill has a team of experts who set the odds. Most of them are in-house but the firm occasionally uses outside experts such as political journalists to set odds. “But we would not be reduced to using MPs — they know nothing about politics,” he added.”
just about sums it up i spose….
Hurrah for Nadine!
It’s said that when New Labour’s secret doings are dragged out into the light of day, the entire party will collapse like rotting toadstools. So here’s a chance for a brave, determined woman to sweep the whole decomposing mess out of our lives forever.
Police and security chiefs will be able to scour the contents of every email sent in Britain under a £12billion plan to be unveiled tomorrow.
The programme, known as Deep Packet Inspection, will also give them the ability to eavesdrop on phone calls made over the internet.
The proposals, which will be revealed by Home Secretary Jacqui Smith
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1173596/Police-snoop-email-sent-Britain-eavesdrop-Internet-phone-calls-new-plan.html
Gordon Brown hates women
,,, and the English.
He isn’t much keen on most of the Cabinet either
Just watched “Have I Got News For You”, courtesy of YouTube. Two week old stories, nothing on the budget, all expenses and McBride. Did Guido write the script?
Harman hates men
It couldn’t happen to a nicer person. Just a shame here husband didn’t get banged up: JOWELL IN THE SHIT
As I keep asking how is the money laundering investigation going, have they seized any assets yet ?
I don’t think that Parliament has yet abolished the common law offence of Criminal Libel. Cewrtainly the Criminal Libel Act 1819 (which deals with powers upon conviction) remains in force (in part) implying that the law of Criminal Libel remains extant.
What is the authority for the proposition that criminal libel has been abolished?
I think you’re right, it hasn’t gone yet, but there are moves afoot:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/law/article5959969.ece
There’s a moderator!
AND – Tony Blair
SO if the Tories form the next government who will be the next Dickens, because, by God, we’ll need him!
“Like I said, a pathetic, publicity-seeking opportunist.”
1) I would.
2) More likely it’s to prove to her mum she done no wrong.
3) I would a second time.
3/3 to Mrs Dorries. 0/3 to ZNL rat-fuckers.
I’d lay you odds that this will be settled out of court!
Labour cannot afford for McBride to be cross-examined under oath. I predict a “benefactor” will stump up compo to make sure that does not happen.
Any takers?
She is a bit of a MILF, no?
a fox indeedy
Does Chariman Brown have any benefactors left? They will be too busy covering their losses from the new 50 % tax or joining the Tory party as has already stared to happen
Go Guido!
Treat these scum the same as any other terrorist – SMASH them.
Old Nick says:
“Labour cannot afford for McBride to be cross-examined under oath. I predict a “benefactor” will stump up compo to make sure that does not happen.”
I agree. Also I think there are ways they can drag this out for a couple of years. So I guess that will be the other tactic.
How do you libel someone who ditched her husband when he got sick?
If she sues, she has a death wish. How badly does this cabbage need to be in the papers? She’s a bigger attention whore than Guido.
Guvnort TeflonBalls says the buck stops with the soon to depart Prime Mentalist and Mandi who put him up to it.
Is Nadine going to be making the running on the smear e-mail story now, Guido? Will further revelations about the involvement of Watson/Toilets and Bollox’s spad have to await the court case?