April 22nd, 2009

PMQs Budget Double Bill Live Chat


398 Comments

  1. 1

    Good Morning Guido. ready for a mass political massacre….loads of deposits just waiting to be lost…we’ll never see the like of it again!

    • 4
      Johan says:

      Disagree.

      I expect what we’ll see is a typical Brownian budget – everything is as good as it can be given how badly the Tories screwed the sytem (and wow, how much worse things would be if they were in), nothings that bad, well placed to weather the storm, help for hard-working families (Darling won’t say that, but we know he means it), blah, blah, blah.

      The true state of the economy will be glossed over, the ‘nasty’ measures necessary to turn things around will be pooh poohed and this almighty mess will be left to be cleaned up after the next election in mid 2010. Fuckers.

      • 8
        riesler says:

        Wouldn’t bet against it; I think you have had a sneak preview.

      • 13
        Tom says:

        EVERYONE KNOWS THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN PAY OFF THE DEBTS THIS BUNCH OF IDIOTS HAVE RUN UP IS THE WORKING MAN.

        IT’LL BE TAXES TAXES TAXES TAXES and MORE TAXES.

        WHY DO YOU THINK MPs LIKE TAX FREE EXPENSES?

      • 19
        Anna R says:

        New vocabulary for NuLabour?

      • 24
        Anonymous says:

        …Jobs for the worlds workers benefits for the worlds shirkers…
        tax you if your working too hard….tax on SME….etc.
        Now if only they taxed the bloody cyclists off the road in Cambridge you might be able drive thru there….tax the pensioners (lucky to be alive what with the NHS)..
        I think we are nearing the point of revulsion.

      • 65
        Anonymous says:

        There must be a joke about Brownian motion there somehwere.

    • 12
      r timney says:

      OOHH – excuse me, I’ve just lost my deposit.

      Anyone got a tissue ?

    • 121
      Steak and Chips says:

      Excellent budget.
      britain is back on the right track.

      • 153
        Derek Green says:

        Right track to where – the knacker’s yard?

      • 217
        Dave Cameron says:

        Darling probably thinks he can get £2000 for the UK now he’s sent it to the scrap yard. Sorry Darling, but you can’t afford to buy a new country just yet. Hint.

    • 144
  2. 2
    Anonymous says:

    Robert Peston appears a bit tired and emotional on news 24….

    • 5
      Genghiz the Kahn says:

      Isn’t it time that Bastard was investigating for receiving leaks to destroy the banks.

      Hope he has been imbibing hemlock.

      • 7
        Steak and Chips says:

        It’s called reporting.
        Describing reality.
        You’re an idiot.

      • 10
        Anonymous says:

        Hemlock has an interesting was of dispatching humans. It paralyses slowly from the feet up and then you die from lack of oxygen as your lungs are paralysed…

      • 72
        Julian says:

        Rather like working at the BBC then.

      • 85
        Agent 99 says:

        Actually the reverse of the BBC in so far as the brain is paralysed first then the rest of the usless waste of skin

      • 152
        Dr Nuts says:

        The BBC has a brain anywhere … ???

  3. 3
    The Master says:

    Guido you have really upped the anti recently and many people are cheering you on. At home for a change so can watch on TV. Can’t wait.

  4. 6
    subrosa says:

    Morning all. I wonder if the IMF report will be mentioned.

    http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/GFSR/index.htm

    • 11
      Don't mention 1976 !!!! says:

      The Treasury(Brown) has been very very annoyed about this – it’s NOT the sort of news that the IMF should be telling the British electorate at this crucial time for Labour’s electoral prospects. They need to be kept from the truth as long as possible(big thanks to the BBC for doing their utmost to NOT report this) that Labour has “fucked over the country – big-time and it’s going take 30 years to repay ALL the debt back

      • 89
        Agent 99 says:

        They has a huge punch up last night between the government and the IMF even though the IMF were correct

  5. 9
    Plato says:

    If you get bored – I found this on youtube – plotting against the Yes, Prime Minister.

    Heaven forbid :shock:

  6. 14

    Brown was totally unable to admit that he had failed to abolish boom and bust.

    Indeed he was almost in apoplexy drying to dodge the issue.

  7. 15
    Anonymous says:

    I’ve been made redundant. I’m 53 and I can’t even get to an interview, let alone get a job. It’s utter bollocks!

    • 105
      sukyspook says:

      That’s really sad Anon, I feel for you – however, on the positive side – grow your own veg if you don’t already and check out this site if you haven’t already done so:

      http://www.tpuc.org/

      Watch the 3 videos down the LHS of the main page.

      “and ye shall know the Truth and the Truth shall make you free”.

    • 122
      anonymous says:

      I do sympathise having been made redundant at 55 myself but luckily with a decent index-linked final salary pension -but the other side of the coin is my youngest son is 22 – has a 2.1 degree in Economics from a university pretty high up in the university league table(for what wortth which is not very much actually come to think about it) and £20,000+ of student debt (incidentally the student loan company wrote to him recently wanting to know why he doesn’t appear to be repaying his student loan or in receipt of benefits(he isn’t eligible) and how is he living – I enjoyed writing to them to tell them that I’m bloody well supporting him who do they think is ?( although they insisted I give them a detailed breakdown of my support) – absolute joke !)AND HE can’t get a job either and the so called JobCentrePlus initiatives are f****ing useless – keep searching our internet job-base !!!!! He’s applied for every job under the Sun from shelf-stacking to office junior.He’s applied for almost 100 plus – some he doesn’t even get a reply to and when he does there are almost 50 applicants for each job and a lot of those are graduates(these are for NON-graduate jobs by the way NOT high-powered graduate jobs)AND I don’t hold out much hope of the much vaunted budget announcement for guaranteed training(he’s apparently too qualified according to the jobcentreplus staff)or guaranteed job.

      And we get Brown(who has created the present mess) and Darling stating how they’re helpng the jobless and particularly thoese who have just left school or college or university – It’s all complete rubbish !Good luck to anyone who belives any of these pie in the sky schemes that Brown has dreamt up in his imagination – they’re not there and they don’t exist.
      When will this benighted government and Prime Minister call an election for Gods Sake so that we can get rid of them

  8. 16
    RavingMad says:

    Mr Speaker
    Do you agree with me that the Prime Minister is a fucking lying cheating Hoon?

  9. 17
    CuttingEdge says:

    Is this going to be the: “We’ll defer spending cuts until after the next election” budget?

    Or, if the cretins Brown and Darling won’t tell us: The “How to shaft the Tories when they kick us out next May” budget?

    May the Lord have mercy on the tax-payers’ souls…

    • 20
      CuttingEdge says:

      …because there will be no mercy on their wallets.

    • 25
      Johan says:

      I expect so. :(

    • 80
      Feduptothebackteeth says:

      Sounds like about par for the course:

      Lets do what is good for our jobs as MPs and fuck everyone else.

    • 107
      Air Nokia One says:

      Cutting edge
      The failure to address the real issue of debt and failure to make savings anywhere right now but defer until after any election to guard votes is now the ‘scorched earth’ policy of the Labour party for the next party taking over.

      If nothing else this and this alone should prevent the Labour party from EVER taking power again. Criminal proceedings should also be established as soon as they leave office.

      • 136
        CuttingEdge says:

        If there’s a firing squad at the end of these criminal proceedings, can I volunteer my services?

      • 350
        Alien8n says:

        with cost savings to be made can we borrow some 50 .cals from our yank friends so we can do most of them with one shot if we line them up one after the other?

  10. 18
    Spin Doctor says:

    Cleggy drove a wooden stake deep into the heart of that lying Hunt over that question on the 1m jobs myth.

  11. 21
    CuttingEdge says:

    Gotta love Nadine. Quality question or what?

  12. 22
    Tuckered says:

    Of course there are more people in work, education and/or training:

    a) there are more people – most new jobs having been taken up by economic migrants;
    b) HMG has increased the school-leaving age to 18;
    c) the social engineer’s dream of 50% of young people going to university means that tons of 18-25 year olds are currently doing courses which won’t equip them for jobs but will leave them indebted and are keeping them off the jobless totals;
    d) there has been an explosion of part-time working. This has pros and cons but means that figures are just not comparable to those of 10-20 years ago

  13. 26
    fruitcake says:

    Perhaps he could just say “I’m sorry we’ve fucked up so we resign”

    A pig just flew past my office.

  14. 27
    M..M..M..Mister Speaker says:

    Get rid of this Jock Junta

    • 114
      righty right wing (mrs) says:

      Jock Junta….nice, almost as good as Guido’s 2Scottish Raj”.

      What a bunch of hoons.

      To hear the true fiscal state of our country laid out is terrifying.

      Neo Labour have squandered the wealth of the country, borrowed more to carry on funding their social engineering & as a last resort are now printing money.

      If I did not know for a fact that they are an incompetent bunch of small time Scottish opportunists, I would say that they have manufactureed our current fiscal position to force home their dream of collectivism, internationalism & third way neo socialism.

      Lets face it, they would never get the British to accept their naive sixth form global socialist caliphate dreams via the ballot box.

      Election now.

      ANYONE BUT LABOUR.

    • 178
      Totally Unimpressed says:

      I thought it was the Jockocracy.

  15. 28
    Anonymous says:

    BBC R5 dumped PMQs so that Pienaar could tell us what we’d just heard.
    “THIS IS TODAYS MESSAGE FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT”

    What a F*****g bunch of hoons.
    MinTru in full operation

    • 119
      Anonymous says:

      BBC R5
      “Ooohh! Isn’t it all exciting!”

      As opposed to “Jesus Christ! How in God’s name did we get into this state?”

    • 250
      Don't tune in to that R5 shite says:

      Don’t tune in to that R5 shite

  16. 30
    Anonymous says:

    What’s Harriet wearing? She looks like an oven-ready turkey.

  17. 31
    The devil is in the detail says:

    We won’t know what is really in the budget for a couple of days, by which time the agenda will have moved on….as always.

  18. 32
    Voter says:

    Who’s got their cleave out behind Duff?

    • 38
      Spin Doctor says:

      That guy behind Harman…I can hear the buttons on his shirt straining to keep his fat gut from spilling over the back of Darling’s seat.

      • 39
        Anonymous says:

        It’s all that good living in the HoC Restaurant and Bar – subsedised courtesy of the taxpayer, of course.

  19. 33
    Leonard Hatred says:

    “It’ll all be over by Christmas.”
    I’m not going to swear to it but I believe that line has been used once or twice before. Don’t recall it being 100% successful either.

    • 48
      The devil is in the detail says:

      It was meant to be over by now, according to Darling’s forecast a few months ago. He has just made up a growth figure of 1.25% for next year. Yeah right. Cuckoo cuckoo. He is absolutely barking!

    • 69
      no.62 says:

      i do hope someone has told otto von bismark.

  20. 37
    Trough and Drop says:

    Top marks for sleight of hand. I have not seen even the shortest dalliance ‘twixt digit and nostril, yet he appears to be rolling one up between forefinger and thumb even now!

    Perhaps a pocket supply of “travelbogeys”?

  21. 41
    Spongsdad says:

    Budget 2009? More like bullshit 2009 if you ask me.

  22. 42
    Anonymous says:

    MP’s don’t earn over £150,000 per year so their pensions won’t be touched. The bulk of their salary is made up from expenses, which doesn’t count.

    Why am I not surprised to hear that.

    Snouts are still firmly in the trough.

    • 52
      Roger M Hall says:

      MPs don’t EARN anything like £150,000 per year.
      What they TAKE is something entirely different.

    • 88
      Twizzle says:

      Minister earn £140k – Amazing isn’t it. But only coincidence, wouldn’t you say?

  23. 43
    Anonymous says:

    Gordon Brown looked like he was smirking when the £175 Billion Debt figure was announced. Then the years ahead which were equally dire. Why does he think it funny?

    I noticed everytime he started smirking he then realised he might not be doing himself any favours.

    • 45
      Anonymous says:

      He wasn’t smirking about the debt figure he was smirking over the fact that he’s just farted and nobody has noticed.

      • 57
        Grumpy Old Man says:

        It’s worse than I thought. If they’ve admitted to £175 Billion the true figure’s probably nearer £250 Bn. It certainly will be after the £ is crucified in the FOREX’s of the world.

    • 127
      Agent 99 says:

      Scorched earth …

      It was the ‘I know you are going to win the next GE so suck on that twats’ type of smirk

  24. 44
    Anonymous says:

    The government has saved 26.5bn over the last year. Why was this efficiency drive not being implemented years ago? They spent that (and much more) in the blink of an eye when the banks needed bailing out.

  25. 46
    Anonymous says:

    Well that’s ok then, there was me thinking that we were fucked, failing public services bogged down by red tape and targets, the highest level of taxation since records begun and with higher un employment that the last government had. Apparently I was mistaken; well done to Brown, Darling Smith, Harman and co.

    • 59
      Johan says:

      You might be posting sarcastically, I might understand what you wrote as sarcasm – sadly I think a large proportion of voting population will be thinking exactly this… with an added hatred of rich tory bastards trying to hold the working man down.

    • 265
      Toenails Robinson says:

      “I can defend their record with confidence.”

      Errm..Gordon, did I sound convincing enough…..

  26. 46
    Anonymous says:

    Our debt is 80% of GDP. If government is creating jobs in the public sector, which manufactures bugger all but costs us a fortune to run, how on earth are we going to pay this back?

    • 58
      Anonymous says:

      it beggars belief

    • 115
      Nick Robinson of the BBC Govt Dept says:

      No, I won’t have this. Every young person under 25 years will be offered a job or training. The job may well be as a cleaner in a local hospital but…..and grannies don’t have to retire anymore.

  27. 50
    shirtless says:

    He hasn’t mentioned ripping the shirts from our backs yet. Brown and Darling have been trying to achieve just this since their reign of ‘tax and squander’ began so why not come clean?

  28. 51
    Spin Doctor says:

    Notice that NuLab only does billions….in truth fucking meaningless amounts of money!

  29. 54
    CuttingEdge says:

    Why pay tax under us when you can wait a year and pay more under the evil Tories? Because after 5 years of the tax horror they will be forced to inflict on you courtesy of the debt saddled with you by…err…Old New Labour (not to be confused with Old old Labour who also bankrupted the nation), we will come back to rescue you once again. We are New New Labour Mk II. Now run along and pop Big Brother on, you stupid fools.

    The Queen should dissolve parliament now before the UK goes beyond broke into seriously scary territory (if it isn’t already).

    If you’re a fan of Guido and reading Majesty, please pull the plug on this shower of incompetents. You will be lauded the length and breadth of this once “Great” Britain.

  30. 56
    Anonymous says:

    Chancellor Darling……I can’t help but think of captain Darling from black adder, a spineless liar in a position of power who’ll do anything to keep his position of privilege. .

    • 60
      Johan says:

      As I recall, things didn’t end amazingly well for that Darling…

      • 132
        Anonymous says:

        As opposed to this shower of shits Blackadder Goes forth finale was voted the best ending of a sitcom apparently.

        It was really class though and very poigniant all in one

  31. 61
    Anonymous says:

    “BBC political editor Nick Robinson blogs: Alistair Darling is clearly determined to use his Budget speech to tell the country a story about why the economy is in the mess it’s in and about the help that the government has already given” – and how Gordon has saved the world. Gaud bless him!

  32. 62
    Anonymous says:

    Pass me the bucket…….

  33. 64
    Spin Doctor says:

    Had to laugh at Brown’s clumsy attempts at congratulating Darling.

  34. 66
    Mr Rotivator says:

    Cameron is giving him a response now: Gordo is doing the hapless grinning thing again ala Dan Hannan speech. Quick, give him something to doodle with.

    • 79
      broken and skint says:

      Mrs Smith didn’t look too happy, maybe Darling didn’t make provision in his wonderful budget for her husbands porn habit; she might have to put out after all

    • 106
      Rolex_Pride says:

      I agree Mr Rotivator – the thing that struck me during the budget response by Cameron was Brown’s gurning and squirming.

      He’s basically a coward who’s unable to face criticism and he can’t do the “don the headphones” trick when he doesn’t want to hear what’s being said (as he did when Nigel Farage was speaking in the EU Parliament). If he could get away with it, I swear he would stick his fingers in his ears and go “LALALALA can’t hear you!!!”

  35. 67
    Lost IT says:

    On the subject of the smear culture within this government, on p 12 of this week’s Computer Weekly is an article describing how they were smeared over criticism of NPfIT.

  36. 68
    Anonymous says:

    Robinson is a cnut. How the fuck he got to be Political Editor is completely beyond me.

    He couldnt edit a fucking takeaway menu.

  37. 70
    Cassandra King says:

    Now its clear why Nick Robinson picked up and fucked off sharpish when he heard about the smeargate saga, he is fully in newlabours pocket, fucking cringing toady or what?

    • 271
      Lee H says:

      It is a bit of a shocker!! But then who ever thought the BBC were all about balance and fair reporting are not that suprised. Why did Gordon need Mcbride for when he has a whole organisation who will do his spinning for him!! Should rename the BBC news Political team as the Labour Party Communications team (govt and the regions)!!

  38. 71
    The Real PY says:

    Cameron really tore Brown a new one there!!

  39. 73
    Alien8n says:

    I see the BBC are starting their “positive” analysis now

  40. 74
    Gary Elsby says:

    Guido, did you participate in an ‘email scandal’ coverup?

  41. 75
    labourwipeout says:

    Camerons best performance in the house, totally destroyed this administrations record and legacy. I feel strangely optamistic despite the worst budget in my lifetime

    • 141
      Anonymous says:

      agreed he spiked so many government ‘election one liners’ and did it all in one speech.

  42. 76
    Anonymous says:

    A lobby journalist Lord Haw Haw.

    And you know what we did to that twat when we finally cornered him….

  43. 78
    Go_Fourth says:

    David Cameron tried but he can’t disguise the facts. Labour will give real help now for real people and have increased tax for high earners.

    The Tories will give tax cuts for millionaires and do nothing to help hard-working families.

    • 230
      Agent 99 says:

      Sorry G4 this really dosen’t work anymore and no one believes it. Come here and make a good comment for sure and in support of labour if you have too and we can debate but the ‘millionaire’ paintbrush action is from the last era and just bullshit as I think you already know.

    • 254
      CuttingEdge says:

      Some stupid newsreader on R5Live said Darling was hoping to balance his budget in 2012 – which dolt at the BBC scripts the bollocks they broadcast? McBride been moved there?

      Borrowing (as stated by Darling):

      £175 billion 2009-2010
      £173 billion 2010-2011
      £140 billion 2011-2012
      £118 billion 2012-2013

      And those figures are already been questioned as overly optimistic.

  44. 82
    Rebecca says:

    Incredible, fat boy Boulton’s opening comment was to have a swing at Cameron instead of mentioning the £7500,000,000.00 (about one trillion dollars) debt this government has just aportioned round me and my children’s necks.

  45. 83
    Nic Conner says:

    So that 2p exstra on a pint or glass of wine that makes 200 mllion for the gov which is nuthing but will put 59,000 jobs at risk and make it harder for us to enjoy a drink in the pub bring up bing drinking as it will be cheeper to drink at home and overload. All in all a bad tax!

    I off to speek to people in the street to see what 2% exstra on drink duty will pop up on my blog: http://www.grapes-of-joy.blogspot.com

  46. 86
    labourwipeout says:

    Chancelor forgot to mention that if you have a government over 10 years old you can trade them in at the next election.

  47. 87
    Anonymous says:

    David Blunket = misconduct in public office !

  48. 90

    1.5% growth in time for Christmas?
    All we need now is the Tatoo the midget..

    “Boss,boss. look. The plane is coming!”

  49. 91
    Anonymous says:

    If Darling wants to raise some money, why doesn’t he scrap the MP’s expenses altogether. They’ll have to do the job because they want to, then.

  50. 92
    Gordon McMental MP says:

    rOBINSON IS SUCKING labour cock again

  51. 94
    Anonymous says:

    Hang on a mo…. isnt it the Shadow Chancellor who’se meant to reply first?

    What happened to Osborne?

    Or have we finally realised theres no point in fucking about, Darling was only the messenger?

    • 112
      Anonymous says:

      It is a Parliamentary convention that the Leader of the Opposition replies to the Chancellor’s budget statement. Don’t ask why. Lost in the mists of history.

      • 135
        Puzzled says:

        It’s because the Prime Minister is the first lord of the Treasury (god help us) and so the budget is given in is name,so the leaders of the opposition reply.

  52. 95
    vote of no confidence - NOW says:

    Go Dave!

    I was with you all the way, except I would probably have walked round the despatch box and thumped the labour front bench.

    Toenails is a being his usual self on the BBC coverage. What a hoon.

  53. 96
    crowbird says:

    Nick Robinson has just been put in his box by Steph Flanders on the BBC. It is embarrassing how much he is in the pay of the Broon administration.

  54. 99
    Anonymous says:

    ….or Darling could plunder their gold-plated pension scheme. I’m sure a few million could be raised there.

  55. 100
    Genghiz the Kahn says:

    peston claiming that the credit rating is going down… so down it will go.

    • 161
      Agent 99 says:

      A one lined comment but this is a total, utter and catostrophic disaster for this country it really is.

      The government wish to borrow but without a good credit rating they can’t through the normal channels as they would not be trusted to pay back.

      IMO on this news the IMF just moved significantly closer and as it has been purported to ‘have no stigma’ I truly believe the decision has already been taken by the government to seek help and the downgrade of credit credibility will almost ensure it now happens.

      Things can only get ‘worse’

      Twice to the IMF in my lifetime and both times by Labour. Puts the drop in the financial ocean of Black wednesday into total prospective thats for sure.

      • 235
        IRB says:

        They could always go to a shark. I like the idea of Alistair having his knee caps smashed by two heavies because we’re falling behind with payments.

        Oh Jesus, I’ve just been hit with the mental image of Jacqui offering them a hairy cheque. *retch*

      • 282

        IRB – looking at the bearer of said hairy cheque, it would surely bounce.

  56. 101
    broken and skint says:

    Chancellor Darling……I can’t help but think of captain Darling from black adder, a spineless liar in a position of power who’ll do anything to keep his position of privilege. .

    • 108
      broken and skint says:

      oops i seem to have copied something….. how incompetant, what i meant to say was….I hope that Clegg’s clowns don’t get in, they all look a bit weird to me and even if they didn’t they’re always a bit quick to jump into bed with Browns slimy expense jockeys when it looks like the Tories might be in the lead.

    • 113
      broken and skint says:

      oops i copied that from somewhere…. what i meant was….

      I hope that Clegg’s clowns don’t get in, they all look a bit weird to me and even if they didn’t they’re always a bit quick to jump into bed with Browns slimy expense jockeys when it looks like the Tories might be in the lead.

    • 155

      Here is the pilot script for new BBC farce The Brownadder

  57. 102
    Nick Robinson of the BBC Govt Dept says:

    Anyone got a 10 year old car then?

    • 147
      Anonymous says:

      Yep, but cant get the fricking credit to buy a new one, even with the two grand off!!

    • 151
      Havocman says:

      No but when I do replace mine I’ll be off to buy an old shitheap for £50 to get my £2,000

    • 163
      Tin Cunliffe says:

      I do, its sitting about unused.

      I do hate this sort of thing. It has the effect of really ballsing up the second hand car market. In France its not possible to get a drivable car for under about 1-2k€.

      On the other hand how many people are in the two categories of a) owning a very old car. b) wanting a brand new car.

      I bet you;ll have to have owned the old car for over a year (perhaps 10!), making it practically impossible to get this.

      • 289

        Plus I’m betting the banger will need to be taxed & MOT’d, i.e. nothing wrong with the thing – in that case, why emit all the carbon in scrapping a decent motor and simultaneously building a new one from scratch? What annoys the Tuscan is the absolute lack of thought in most, if not all, government proposals.

      • 339
        Tin Cunliffe says:

        282 Titter. Lack of thought. Naive.

        its a crappy scheme worthy only of French politicians with best mates who run renault, who believe in the “breaking windows” economics. sod the CO2, its about propping up business. (but thats not logical … didnt think anyone made cars here. hmmmmmm perhaps it is to keep friendly with sarko + angela)

        However, it comes brownite when it gets so many damn conditions imposed that he doesnt have to pay out. ever.

        He’s not as mad or stupid as he looks

    • 192
      Anonymous says:

      Anyone with a car in excess of 10 years old probably would not be able to afford a new car anyway but something has just occurred to me.

      If you were going to buy a new car from scratch then first buy the cheapest piece of 10+ year old junk on wheels you can find for a couple of hundred first then trade in that piece of rolling junk for the brand new car to maximise your 2 grand handout.

      Simple Kch!

      • 194
        Anonymous says:

        sorry 151 my thoughts exactly but with the site update did not see your previous. Just goes to show I am not the only one to think this

        QED

      • 263
        Pete says:

        Wait for Mandlebum’s statement – I reckon there will be rools ie Minimum purchase price to qualify for the £2k.

        I can’t see them giving the same money to two purchasers, one buying an £18k car and the other a £6k car – maybe a sliding scale?

      • 342
        Tin Cunliffe says:

        And, like 193/151 may i re-state…

        If you could do that those £200 cars woudlnt cost £200 any more.

      • 368
        no.62 says:

        The price of a 10 year old+ jallopy has just gone up to £850.

  58. 103
    Gurning Gorgon Video Productions says:

    Quick, I feel another video coming on!

  59. 104
    Anonymous says:

    Oh Nick. We don’t blame the credit crunch on the rich – we blame Gordon!

    For fucks sake get your facts right!

    • 125
      we're all doomed mr Mainwaring says:

      Who voted for him to be prime minster anyway? I don’t remember a general election with him fronting the tax and bust party, maybe they had an open election within the party without any whip pressure and freedom for all to vote on their favourite candidate, of which I expect there were dozens.

      • 310
        Please save me from committing suicide says:

        We never vote for the Prime Minister. That’s what they do in a democracy. This country has never NEVER been democratic.

  60. 110
    Anonymous says:

    Robinson, you’re a fucking hoon who doesnt even come up for air, you breathe through your fucking big jug ears.

    How the fuck can you call yourself a journalist??? Youre a fucking sock puppet!

  61. 116
    jgm2 says:

    We are so fucked. If they’re admitting to 175bn quid of spending then the truth will be more like 200bn quid. And as for that risible 173bn quid next year. Old Brownian habits die hard don’t they.

    Always ‘debt will be 35bn this year 33bn next year…..’ all very precise, very meticulous pure fucking shit.

    It was like being in a department store. Where they price things at £99.99. The thicker members of society (Labour voters mostly) see that figure and actually think 90 quid. Instead of one hundred quid. The headline numbers were always something point nine. So this comedy figure of 175bn quid amounts to 11.9% of GDP. National debt this year will be 59% of GDP rising to a maximum 79% of GDP. Pure fucking coincidence no doubt. No massaging required to get that 11.9% down from 12.something. Or that 59% down from 60%. Or that 79% down from 80%?

    Do we still have a fucking currency after that budget?
    But peep peep we’re going to tax the rich and raise an extra 5bn quid a year. Oh, nice one. And who are you going to tax for the remaining 170bn quid?

    Utterly predictable. Pure fucking lies. No attempt to pay any money back. No civil servants hurt in the process. Sops to the pensioners and others so they can buy ‘cheap’ headlines about what great fellows they are looking out for pensioners, young children, hard-working families blah blah

    Utter fucking scum.

    I though Cameron was going to take my advice at one point and invite the Labour backbenchers to join him in a coup.

    God knows we need one.

    • 134
      Max says:

      You are right plus the “9″ or “point 9″ trick is very much a thicko’s ploy. In marketing terms if you want to pick an invisible number for the broader population that number is “7″. Something like “11.7%” would have slipped under more middle class radar. Oh bugger, now you all know…

    • 345
      Alien8n says:

      Notice that the figure they’re using in the City is 220 billion, howver they also state that due to the way the debt is being funded it could be closer to 260 billion, a damn sight more than the 175 billion they’re talking about

  62. 117
    Professor Mariarti from the Illuminati says:

    Everything is transpired

    hehehe he heeeeeeeeeeeee
    huhuhu hu huuuuuuuuuuuuu
    hohoho ho hooooooooooooo

    Bread lines and soup kitchens for you and your children soon.

    The remaining resources for me and my brethren (including your organs) hehehe he heeeeeeeeee

  63. 118
    RavingMad says:

    Scrappage?

    If it is truly a word, then surely it is only so in reference to this lousy government?

    Election NOW

  64. 124
    Anonymous says:

    Where’s everybody gone in the HoC? The subsedised bar, maybe?

  65. 128
    British Bullshitting Corporation says:

    Look at this propagand bullshit from the BBC:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8012229.stm

    • 131
      IRB says:

      Christ on a bike, they’re not even trying.

    • 139
      astonished says:

      Well bloody fuck

    • 154
      Anonymous says:

      My 10 year old grandaughter could have written something better than that.

    • 157
      Voter says:

      OMFG its like the under arm thrown questions at the start of PMQ.

      No mention of the fucking petrol going up 2p a litre from 01/09/09 and 5p on a pint from midnight in the key points.

      Brown
      Broadcast
      Corporation

    • 167
      Mrs Crewe says:

      suddenly my tv licence feels like union dues going straight to labour can I opt out and pay it to charity?

    • 172
      Anonymous says:

      Is that Children’s BBC?

    • 175
      British Bullshitting Corporation says:

      “I am worried about my home being repossessed
      The scheme that lets you claim state benefits to help you pay interest on your mortgage – Income Support for Mortgage Interest (ISMI) – is being extended so the support lasts for an extra six months. ”

      It would have to extended as no one has benefitted from it at the 26th March when Cameron enquired about it. Another grandstanded announcement that’s helped no one but Liebours poll ratings (briefly?)

    • 239
      Air Nokia One says:

      It would be very interesting for a blogger with a site to write this ‘BBC report’ again but this time as the BBC would have done if a Tory chancellor had been at the despatch box this afternoon.

      I suspect the terms used and the content of this piece would be significantly different.

    • 298

      Amazing. Or as expected, in fact.

  66. 129
    Anonymous says:

    Isn’t it funny that post-Smeargate BBC lackeys like Nick Robinson get all brave and outspoken all of a sudden:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8007000/8007612.stm

  67. 133
    even poorer than this morning says:

    Aha, Ruth Kelly’s on, I think that she’s lying or at the very least being extremely economic with the truth, I can tell because her pretty little lips are moving.

    • 143
      Max says:

      Tell her priest she’s lying.

      • 226
        Dr Nuts says:

        Yeah, but on Saturday – she goes to confession
        Forgive me father, for I have sinned… it has been 1 week since I last confessed.

        I am a member of the New Labour Government

        [Now here's the point - it's not an unforgivable sin ... but does the priest suggest she gives up her seat or otherwise do something to improve her state of affairs to reduce her likelihood of sinning? Was it the priest who suggested that she should resign from HMG?]

  68. 138
    Voter says:

    I like how that fuck Toenails doesn’t actually analyse the 50% rate but instead goes on the aggressive against the Tories.
    And how much money will it actually raise? Let me tell you… FUCK ALL because the entraupeneurs will piss off to somewhere more receptive.
    At least the lefty c.unts are appeased though thats all that matters eh??

  69. 140
    Thats News says:

    I was watching the budget speech at lunch with a non-political colleague who said: “Well, that’s 3-0 to Cameron, then.”

  70. 142
    Mrs Crewe says:

    I wonder if Mr Ruth Kelly had his/her sex change on the Nhs

  71. 146
    Jacqui Smith says:

    Tax relief on kebabs, bathplugs & gay porn.
    That’s what my constituents want.

  72. 148
    Anonymous says:

    Those earning more than £100,000 will see their personal income tax allowances to be “fully withdrawn” from April 2010.

    Didn’t hear that bit.

    • 291
      Anonymous says:

      challenge to the Tories. This is one of the fighting grounds of the next election you know ‘look after the rich’ etc etc et fucking cetera

  73. 150
    Alien8n says:

    (trying to repost as it’s hit the auto moderation, now which word will it be? If this one stops as well, just delete it, lol)

    I just thought of the big flaw in this scrap car scheme.

    No one who drives a 10 year old car because they can’t afford a new car will be able to use this scheme. My car is over 10 years old. Passes it’s MOT every year and runs nice and clean. I’d like a new car though.

    So I take it in and get 2k for it towards a new car. BUT I can’t have a new car, because I don’t have enough in saving to pay for the remainder and I sure as heck can’t get credit.

    So who will benefit from this scheme?

    The people who CAN afford to buy new cars anyway. They’ll now go out and buy up all the cars over 10 years old in order to get their discount off their new car, which will result in lots of cars that people like me rely on as we can’t afford anything newer disappearing from the market. So in the next year when I need to replace my car as it’s getting more economical to scrap it I’ll be unable to replace it as there won’t be any cars left that I can afford. Meanwhile I’ll have to sell my car to someone who can afford to buy a brand new car for peanuts and lose out again as I won’t recover enough money from the sale to put towards another second hand car.

    • 234
      Anonymous says:

      With you there mate, – the CRAP CAR SCHEME stinks!

      Like all the rest

    • 294
      Agent 99 says:

      Alien

      see previous comments made much earlier but yes you are spot on

      Labour twats!

    • 312
      Anonymous says:

      At least you can now sell your old car for a bit more, Alien8n. Anything under £2k in fact. Trouble is anyone wanting a 10 year old cheap car will not be able to buy one because they will all have been scrapped or the price will have now gone up.

    • 381
      Odds Bodkins says:

      Spot on. Crap idea. Crap ill-thought-out scheme. I can’t afford a new car even with £2K discount.

      Just had a new clutch on my 10-year-old Ford. Have always given it regular oil changes, it runs perfectly well, and will do me for at least another year.

      My reasoning is that as with newer cars its going to need new tyres, exhausts, wheel bearings and ‘bits’ anyhow. I’m not convinced it’s more economic right now to take out 8+ grand and get a newer model.

      • 398
        Tin Cunliffe says:

        I could afford a new car but then I’m a tight fisted git who drives ancient cars.

        On a different note. A little bit of sunshine and all the convertibles come out. Saw a brand new car with 4 young ladies in it, thought “ok for some”.

        Perhaps it was Den Dover’s Daughter.

  74. 156
    Fair minded says:

    The poor tired Chancellor tried to pull a rabbit out of the hat, unfortunately the rabitt is dead and the hat more like a cloth cap.

    Apart from the headline help for OAP’s (will help ~1/2m out of ~30m! of the poor old sods)

    Did any one notice how our hated Leader appeared. He could do with a long holiday.

  75. 159
    Roger M Hall says:

    While we’re waiting ….. what’s the collective noun for a bunch of thieving hoons ?

  76. 160
    The Director of Politically Correct and Convenient Troof at AlJaBeeba, the Brown Bullshit Corpse, says:



    (sighs) Oh wasn’t that a lovely Dudget?

    The Leader of Our Party, The Glorious, Beloved, and Supreme Leader, The Loft-Lagging Loony of Londistan, has achieved another notable success, wot I shall instruct Rabid Robbo and all my minions to praise. (And DON’T MENTION THE IMF!!)

    And He, the One whose words are golden, whose rocket and satellite are even now circling the planet, wasn’t even the Chancer this time!

    Oh – support me someone!

    Call Princess Polytwaddle for a quotation.

    • 202
      crowbird says:

      It was a truly beautiful budget. All hail the magnificence of Ali D and Clunker.

      Lets not focus on the bogus debt and growth figures. Lets talk about the tax loophole stuff (raising 60mill) the 50% tax (raising 100mill) and the removal of the personal allowance for earning over 100k (perhaps 1 bn). Once these vast sums are raised all will be well.

  77. 162
    Alien8n says:

    “I am worried about losing my job

    The government will put an extra £1.7bn into running the network of Job Centre Plus offices and its New Deal programme for the out-of-work.

    Everyone under the age of 25 who has been out of work for more than a year will be offered a place in a training scheme.”

    In other words: We need more job centres and “advisors” to cope with the massive increase of unemployed over the next year as we’ve fucked up the economy

    • 384
      JobbyCentrePlusSupervisoryManagementAssistantDirector says:

      Don’t worry lad!

      There’s a jobby for you at your local hospital. We, the government, New stassi brand, can offer you full training and a jobby as a professional hospital cleaner, for the derisory, I mean excellent wage of £6.01 per hour, well above minimum wage, so you can afford to live here and have a family and buy one of our new build houses, and repay the debt on your house and children’s education for the rest of your life.

      A deal, if I may say so, born in heaven and given to you, on a plate, so to speak.

      Yes, one of our new Job Centre Plus Jobsworths will help you complete the 56 page application form and assign you to the Area Director who will introduce you to the Training Manager who will show you what to do before involving the Health & Safety Advisor who talks about the law and you role in your jobby. Then you will be sent to our Design & Portfolio Manager who will give you your uniform, your bucket and mop. Simple.

      Then off you go, a fully fleged, government trained Floor Maintenance & Healthy Cleaning Support Officer.

      See, it’s easy…. you should try it!

  78. 164
    Alien8n says:

    Anyone got a list of words that trigger moderation because I can’t for the life of me see why my last post was auto moderated…

    • 174
      Hugh Jardon says:

      Fuck
      wank
      Hunt (with a c)
      skiddy pants

      perhaps, though your post was just crap?

    • 177
      Andy Carpark says:

      T*ilets M*guire

    • 194
      thick as thieves says:

      alien8,
      erm, judging by that last post you made, I would hazard a guess that the reason your other one was auto moderated was because it was SO FUCKING BORING!
      when the spastics are demanding to be published things really are getting out of hand.
      time to start policing a bit more aggressively methinks.

      • 275
        Alien8n says:

        Oh sorry, I was under the impression this was a political blog and since we’re now looking at the budget pointing out that part of it is just more wasted bullshit might actually be topical.

        I’ve obviously been mistaken and will go back to mindless slagging off of the Labour party instead.

      • 307
        thick as thieves says:

        there is no point in apologising for your stupidness.
        I was merely offering a possible explanation as to why your post was moderated.
        you couldn’t figure it out and I was just enlightening you.
        honestly, someone offers you help and you complain about it: you really are an ungrateful fucker, aren’t you.
        ps. I am a collector of psuedonyms. I will collect yours if you keep up the back chat.
        as you were.

      • 369
        Alien8n says:

        Please do, but I doubt I’m worth much as a collectible pseudonym.

        And since when was insulting someone “offering to help”?

        Never mind, at least one of us has actually studied economics and political history (although I will admit it was Northern Irish history, highly enlightening it was too)

    • 243
      Hugh Jardon says:

      Alien,
      i got modded for calling Elsby a hoon…

    • 377
      Lammy_Pride says:

      Theres plenty of opportunity in the security industry provided you can supply your own German Sheppard and dont mind hanging out with dodgy Nigerians, or if your female and under 30 and dont mind anti social hours there are openings a plenty as a sex worker.

  79. 166
    Havocman says:

    Whilst Nick Clegg was speaking, Darling was chatting and laughing with one of his front benchers. Shows how much respect that complete Hunt has for the opinions of others.

  80. 168
    Hugh Jardon says:

    Cooper’s on Aljabeeba now…
    £175BILLION…Cooopers being rinsed about the soak the rich 50% tax rate.
    It’ll raise the thick end of fuck ALL.
    Accusation of a political stunt is rubbished.
    She’s shouting now…..

    What a wanker she is!!!

    • 173
      Anonymous says:

      Yes, but wanking is good for the prossy – oh, wait a minute!

    • 176
      British Bullshitting Corporation says:

      I’d watch her wank.

    • 179
      Mouth says:

      Was nice to see her given some shit from the interviewer, surprised me. Fuck off toenails.

    • 196
      Pinnochio says:

      She’s now on Sky News. I think her nose is growing.

    • 205
      MisterE says:

      This Cooper bloke’s a complete cock.
      We all know your 50% tax rate is a trap for the conservatives – even after completely fucking up the country for decades to come, they have the cheek to put that twat Mr Cooper on TV to spin his lies and rubbish. It won’t raise anything significant, you’re just playing politics with people’s lives for the sake of getting one over on the conservatives!

      We’re not listening to you any more, mate – fuck off back to your wife, Mrs Balls, while she still has a job, you fucking cretin.

      • 244
        Cassandra King says:

        WTF? all super Cooper could do was slag off the Tories, the ueslees twat rambled on and on about how they were going to cut spending but raise spending as well, they cant do both can they?
        Lying through her teeth about how much would be raised by the 50% showboating class war tactic.

    • 207
      Liebour out says:

      Adam Boulthoon giving her grief on Sky. He’s having none of her bullshit. This is great. I though Boulthoon was a labour man?

  81. 181
    British Bullshitting Corporation says:

    Nick Robins-hoon demonstrating how spending increases are reduced using his forearm. Durr, I still don’t get it!? Where’s tellytubbies ?

  82. 182
    Anonymous says:

    which ones?

  83. 183
    Blake's7 says:

    I here the sea is nice, specially if you wear concrete boots.

  84. 185
    stevo says:

    Brown is selling more Gold. More work for the Polish dental trade.!

  85. 186
    Spin Doctor says:

    Nick
    Robinson
    is
    not
    a
    NuLab
    plant

  86. 187
    Airey Belvoir says:

    This is all bollocks. All that will happen is that 2K of a discount any dealer will give you already on a new car will just transfer from the dealer to the taxpayer. I hope that one of our highly-paid media commentators might pick up this obvious point.

  87. 188
    Anonymous says:

    9 Billion in savings In England
    Regional Ambulance
    Regional Police
    Regional Assemblies
    Regional Fire Brigades
    so the nine regions imposed on England By NuLiebors and theEUSSR will do yet another merry go round of public servants that will only look good on paper

    • 220
      Anonymous says:

      Yes but think all the luverly lawyers Fees

      Management Consultant F.
      Office Equipment F.
      Design Consulatnts F.
      Jobsworths F.
      Qaungocrat F.
      Jobsworth’s Jobsworths F.
      Fees F.
      Paper suppliers F.
      IT consultants F.

      and then all the reworking, re-removing, contraction, relocation

      Meanwhile, – yes – nothing fucking works – or works worse than it did

      OldNoo(NooOld)BoringLiars, – Wasting your money somewhere near YOU

  88. 191
    Mike, Brighton says:

    My personal tax allowance is to be withdrawn and I’m gonna pay 51% tax (don’t forget the 1% uncapped NI!)

    Anyone who pays more than half their income in tax is not an equal citizen but a vassal of the state. A tax slave.

    Which bit of fuck off is in any way unclear. I’m not going to pay my taxes to subsidise an incompetent government and a bunch of corrupt and incompetent bankers.

    Brown is doomed.

    • 214
      thick as thieves says:

      er, considered voluntary work Mike?
      only teasing. you’re a tory, right mike?
      well, without the tory swing vote, tony ‘thechildkiller’ blair wouldn’t have been voted in with such a large majority it neutered the tory opposition.
      stop fucking moaning Mike, it was c’unts like you who voted this mob in.
      you have created your own cage you fucking moron.

      • 222
        Maguie-hater says:

        Thick as thieves – mmmmmm, the name gives it away

      • 277
        Alien8n says:

        yup, not interested in “intelligent debate” would prefer every post to be “fuck off labour”.

      • 296
        Mike, Brighton says:

        I never voted for these hoons. Why on earth would I do voluntary work?
        So i was never a hoon who voted these hoons in and am put in a cage by morons who voted for these hoons. Morons like you

        Why don’t you take a flying f*ck at a rolling donut you hoon

      • 323
        thick as thieves says:

        what fun!
        rattling the spastic tory daleks cage gives me great pleasure. almost as much as rattling the cage of the labour trolls.
        oh, and mike, the reason I said you should do voluntary work is because you strike me as the kind of nonce who would work in a charity shop just so you could try and shag the old grannies who shop there.
        you dirty fucking rotter!
        but all my previous points stand unchallenged.
        and you are a tory mike, you fucking liar.

    • 279
      Anonymous says:

      Yeah! And the 1% uncapped NI was introduced on the back of a promise not to increase the base 40% tax rate. Lies and misdirection even 10 years ago. Morally, financially, and intellectually bankrupt!

    • 332
      thick as thieves says:

      clarification: a swinging tory.
      don’t lie mike, tell the truth and shame the devil you old dog.
      you fucking did vote for new labour and you did it because you thought you would be better off. you took a risk and it didn’t pay off.
      act like a man mike, stop telling porkies and take responsiblity for the wankers you voted in.
      you gutless fuck.

    • 382
      Anonymous says:

      Just ignore thick as pig shit.He is retarded and to be pitied.

  89. 193
    Nic Conner says:

    So that 2p exstra on a pint or glass of wine that makes 200 mllion for the gov which is nuthing but will put 59,000 jobs at risk and make it harder for us to enjoy a drink in the pub bring up bing drinking as it will be cheeper to drink at home and overload. All in all a bad tax!

    Right going into Town to speek to people to see how the 2% tax hike on drink will effect peoples life. I will pop my findings on the blog.
    http://www.grapes-of-joy.blogspot.com

  90. 197
    David Icke says:

    Fucking twelve foot lizards

  91. 199
    righty right wing (mrs) says:

    “The vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery – Sir Winston Churchill.

    The Scottish Raj, or Scottish Junta if you please, may have arrived at their collectivist, neo socialist dream by incompetence rather than design, but we, our children & our childrens children will be paying for their gross mismanagement of Great Britain PLC.

    Neo Labours true legacy? Inter-generational debt & the rise of British National Socialism in the form of the BNP.

    Well done you complete hoons.

  92. 208
    Hugh Jardon says:

    She’s on Sky now…talking utter bollocks.

    Why has she glued a rice crispy to her left cheek?

    Even Boulton is giving her some poo…she’d like that!

  93. 210
    Spin Doctor says:

    Peston talks at dictation speed.

    • 292
      margy says:

      Peston talks as though he is an ellocution lesson – he’s an utter ‘dumbed down’ chippy, fool who will have an awful lot to answer for when the tories win power.

      Hopefully, he’ll become unemployable.

  94. 212
    Gordon McBrown says:

    Oh shit. I don’t know what Darling is smoking, but I could sure use some.

    “Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition” – Gordon Tango Brown and Alistair Cash Darling.

  95. 215
    Plato says:

    Loved this quote from Mike Smithson over at PB.com

    http://plato-says.blogspot.com/2009/04/quote-of-day.html

  96. 216
    Hugh Jardon says:

    Cooper WON’T admit to cutting spending.
    Boulton’s still rinsing her…harping back to their manifesto.

    • 322
      Anonymous says:

      BBC have already reported (off message) that in the small print Health and Education are facing big cuts. Wasn’t mentioned at the despatch box of course it’s all about votes and its only the nsaty opposition type people that do that.

      Wake up you 30% you are being conned and you just cant see it

  97. 218
    Trough and Drop says:

    Mrs and Drop believes Toenails to be one of Gilbert and George.

    • 329
      All sorts make the world says:

      O/T

      but did you know that in holland ‘drop’ is the term given to liquorice they just love the stuff.

      Yeah boring but a tad more interesting than Darling

  98. 219
    Agent 99 says:

    The 74% of of GDP debt has on BBC world just been described by a financial expert as and I quote directly

    ‘big by anyone’s standards’

    Best placed? yeah right!

    • 272
      Guido Fawkes says:

      IMF estimates for gross government debt as percentage of GDP in 2010

      UK – 73%
      US – 98%
      Japan – 227%
      Italy – 121%
      Germany – 87%
      France – 80%
      Canada – 77%

      Wakey, wakey.

      • 283
        Alien8n says:

        Spot how many of those are G8 countries who plan their economies together at their little get togethers. Sure it’s a world problem, but it’s still Labour’s fault for not arguing against running a debt economy in the first place.

      • 315

        As joe citizen/subject is liable for and/or required to service both government and personal debt, a better measure is the combination of the two, which I think you’ll find is substantially less flattering for the UK than the numbers you post.

      • 378
        Guido Fawkes says:

        Steps to a Depression
        Debt liquidation and distress selling
        Contraction of the money supply as bank loans are paid off
        A fall in the level of asset prices
        A still greater fall in the net worths of business, precipitating bankruptcies
        A fall in profits
        A reduction in output, in trade and in employment.
        Pessimism and loss of confidence
        Hoarding of money
        A fall in nominal interest rates and a rise in deflation adjusted interest rates

        Wakey, wakey

  99. 223
    Liebour out says:

    LOL. Sky News showing Brown’s face during Darling’s budget speech. “His eyes are almost glazed over!”. What eyes? It’s singular not plural

  100. 228
    StormTrooper says:

    Please excuse my political naivety but what does the term “Hoon” mean?

    Is it the Wikipedia version (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoon) or does it refer to
    the more poisonous variety of political slug?

    • 232
      Anonymous says:

      Bullshit artist.

    • 240
      Hugh Jardon says:

      It’s a friendly word which describes the much loved Minister.
      Geoff c. unt. Hoon.

    • 245
      'orrible hoons says:

      Synonym for k*nt spelt with a “c” but hoon will suffice or hoony hoon when really angered.

    • 274
      StormTrooper says:

      Many thanks to m’learned blogging brethren. I shall endeavour to apply this term whenever I feel the need to vent my bile against the odious, corrupt, filthy, disease
      ridden pile of turd’s that constitute the New Labour “Party”.

    • 321
      bodo says:

      When he was defence minister, he was known in the armed forces as ‘TCH’, ie ‘Total Bunt Hoon’ – I think thats where it started.

      [Except not 'Bunt' - obviously]

  101. 229
    Anonymous says:

    Dodgy UK government. They’ll be selling gold watches from under their coats next. Probably make more money that way.

  102. 231
    Liebour out says:

    Kay Burley looks hot. Do I need help?

  103. 233
    C Jung says:

    Does any one think that Brown is looking more demented than usual these days

  104. 247
    pissed off voter says:

    Yvette Cooper just been interviewed. her nose looked like she’d been snorting something, could explain why she was talking tosh.

  105. 248
    English Liberation Front says:

    David Starkey on Gordon Brown the Dictator. 1.09.00 in and absolutely devastating.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jxxwz/Gabby_Logan_19_04_2009/

    Enjoy.

    • 389
      Anon says:

      it is indeed excellent

      Gabby Logan goes on to say she’ll balance the programme following a couple of irate emails – ya gotta laff

  106. 251
    it's all Balls says:

    What a generous nation we are. Even in these difficult times we find the money to help out the Japanese and German car manufacturers.

    • 355
      Anonymous says:

      ALL THE LOSERS WITH 10 YEAR OLD CARS COULDN’T AFFORD A NEW CAR, EVEN WITH TWO GRAND OFF.

      • 394
        Alien8n says:

        Oi, I resemble that remark!

        Nowt wrong with my 10 year old car, runs as well as a new one, gives me excellent mpg and emissions at the MOT were next to nowt. Why would I spend 15k to replace it?

  107. 256
    weybridgeman says:

    Overall this Budget is a complete and utter shambles. We are back to the dark days at the end of the Callaghan era where to placate an increasingly militant and Labour-sceptical electorate Labour reverted to type – i.e. screw the rich and throw money at the poor….but ‘accidentally’ miss. 14 more miserable and sad months of these buggers can’t go quickly enough…

  108. 258
    Hugh Jardon says:

    who’s this speccy cunnt next to ian dale on Sky?

    What a twat!

    • 328
      Twizzle says:

      Alex Hilton.

      You couldn’t make him up could you? Or maybe they did – Brains. But without any.

  109. 262
    Spin Doctor says:

    Clearly demonstrated just how biased BBC coverage of the Budget is when you switch over to Sky News.

  110. 270
    Susie says:

    Hoon — used to be applied solely to Geoff (as in Geoff ‘Buff’ Hoon) now applied to the lot of them in shortened, 4-letter form.

  111. 273
    Economical with 74% of the actuale says:

    BBC World reporting its a global recession and not labours fault

    • 276
      Anonymous says:

      update BBC World classic

      they stated on that Eurozone will shrink by 4% and then said the UK will sink by a similar amount while showing the figure of 6% WTF

      Weird

      • 325

        Well, there’s “only 2% difference” between 4 and 6 when the Beeb are referring to Labour, but a “yawning 50% gap” when the Tories are in their frame.

    • 299
      Have your say says:

      Well it must be true then.

      Currently listening to D:Ream – Things Can Only Get Better, more apt then its ever been

  112. 284
    Air Nokia One says:

    BBC WORLD Update

    The lady reporter said that in the small print of the budget Labour are cutting money to health and education. Given that this was handed out only an hour or so ago and they have spotted this already then what other less obvious horrors await?

    Shortest career on record?

  113. 285
    Anonymous says:

    BBC spinning the personal income tax stuff as a dividing line … its just bollox
    Every one will hurt eventually and this 50% tax thing is just a side show.
    The big story is the 606 billion that they will need to take out ..

    • 338
      Anonymous says:

      who cares about over half a trillion quid of new debt when you can spin to the world using tax-payers’ money about the huge wodge of cash (I think it’s about £3.64 in total) that you’ll get from all the rich people who have shit accountants?

      This is the BBC election line for 2010; tory toffs are evil and will shoot nurses in the head, by the way the economy’s fine. Gordon is jesus.

      don’t worry about that 3 trillion (which it might be by then) of accumulated debt, we’ll just print more money.

  114. 287
    Lee H says:

    I see the BBC have gone in to overdrive now. All reporters have been told that they have to mention the 50p tax for earners on £150k or more and what the Conservatives are going to do about it. Nick Robinson is at it, Ben Wright is at it. I take it Mcbrides communications systems are not as good at his home but obviously they have got through to those at the BBC. Draper need not have bothered with his red rag website. One exists already. It is called BBC online and doesnt cost the Labour Party a penny. Thats right people it is paid for by you and me. Makes you feel great to be British!!

  115. 288
    Gordon Brown says:

    Fuck the manifesto.

    All your money is belong to me.

    • 335
      Mr D. Mented-Fuckwit says:

      Hello Gordon,

      I hope you don’t take some of the boisterous larking about on this site seriously – us fellows on the internet like a good laugh and, as I’m sure you know only too well (and dream about only too often), boys will be boys…

      I’d like to help you in your quest to save the world (can we start with Basildon? Thanks). I’m prepared to forward to you all my worldly possessions, and contents of my bank accounts and bowels. I hope you can put them to good use.

      I’m afraid I don’t have any children of my own, but rest assured if I did they would happily be at your service.

      Please look favourably upon my servitude,

      Yours indebtedly (literally),
      Mented-Fuckwit, D. (Mr)

  116. 290
    Master Baiter says:

    Because Cameron and Osborne are lilly livered ninnies.

    Conservative budget policy is top secret.

    In any case cutting government spending in the middle of a deepening recession will lead to more unemployment, less tax receipts and more government debt.

    Hmmmm……..

    • 314
      Anonymous says:

      Well if the government are that bloody good at helping people back to work, how come I can’t even get an interview for jobs I know I am more than capable of doing?

      They really have helped me…..NOT.

    • 318
      Fair minded says:

      Oh hello,

      Thought you would be too embarrassed to post today after the drivel from Darling.

      Cameron gave Darling/Brown and their toadies a damn good roasting. Lilly livered he aint.

      The one eyed “Dead man walking” looked a bit fragile, he needs a long vacation. Bless!

    • 326
      Hugh Jardon says:

      Are you still sleeping with your sister???

    • 341
      Please save me from committing suicide says:

      Could someone lend me a couple of lengths of 2 by 4 so I can finish the gallows for Master Baiter. Crime: Being a Hoon.
      I bet Master Baiter is a Scottish Hoon too. She sounds like a real nasty piece of work.

      • 351
        eye-eye says:

        This is the last time I will respond on this jerks reply. Dont fall for his Baiting. Ignore him and he’ll go away. Try and swat him and he’ll anoy you the more

      • 360
        Master Baiter says:

        Don’t be like that, it’s pathetic.

        Saying politicians like Osborne and Cameron are lilly livered ninnies is not nasty.

        Believe it or not many people are wondering what the Conservatives stand for. In effect what’s their plan to get the country on the right track?

        If they cut government spending now they will make the budget deficit worse.
        Or do they think cutting government spending in the midst of a massive drop in private spending is a good idea?

        If you want to have an insult contest it can be arranged, you will have to clean the tiles afterwards though because it will be your body fluids smeared all over them.

      • 385
        Hugh Jardon says:

        You mean it’s a she??
        I had her down for a he.
        Must be a lezza then?
        My mistake!

        Rumour has it that she had an affair with her dad’s best mate when she was 15.
        Problem is that her dad’s best friend was her mum!!!

        Two lezza’s in one house…what’s the chances of that???

    • 348
      rob says:

      If you stopped playing with yourself for a minute you might give your brain half a chance to realise that you are batting for a team of living dead 70′s socialists who are interested only in their own self enrichment and could not give a flying fxxk about us in general or you in particular.

  117. 293
    righty right wing (mrs) says:

    “The vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of misery – Sir Winston Churchill.

    The Scottish Raj, or Scottish Junta if you please, may have arrived at their collectivist, neo socialist dream by incompetence rather than design, but we, our children & our childrens children will be paying for their gross mismanagement of Great Britain PLC.

    Neo Labours true legacy? Inter-generational debt & the rise of British National Socialism.

    Well done you complete hoons.

    • 303
      Anonymous says:

      Quite right RRW, they’re a bunch of utter, utter hoons.

    • 308
      Guido Fawkes says:

      IMF estimates for gross government debt as percentage of GDP in 2010

      UK – 73%
      US – 98%
      Japan – 227%
      Italy – 121%
      Germany – 87%
      France – 80%
      Canada – 77%

      Wakey, wakey, silly billy.

  118. 301
    JMT says:

    247 – worse than that.

    The government recently placed a contract with M.A.N. of Austria for army lorries.

    LDV were going to build a proven US army truck under licence (from a US company owned by Brit Aerospace).

    Cost of Austrian jobs for Austrian workers? One Billion.

    Bastards!

  119. 317
    bergen says:

    Labour strategy:

    a)next election a write-off so try to hold about 225 safe seats

    b)torch the economy for the tories to administer the painful medicine

    c)make jackanory projections for the next few years and blame tories for not achieving them

    d)get in again in 2014/5 on mantra of wicked tory cuts

    Stuff the electorate.What’s it to do with them.

  120. 319
    Twizzle says:

    Guy made the follwoing comment on Toenails blog: -

    Leadership involves many qualities; some tangible, others less so.

    Let there be no mistake, the most important thing should always be what is being said, but in this televisual age, and perhaps even more because it is so key in delivery of the message, how it gets delivered is critical, too.

    While a factor (and having the “X’ doesn’t hurt), physical appearance should not be over-estimated. That said, as with any job interview, you will get judged on certain passive aspects of presentation. Which is why I think to Winston Churchill, who was not exactly Brad Pitt. But what he had to say, and how he said it, motivated a nation.

    Not so sure coming across as Beaker from the Muppets wired to the national grid has quite the same effect.

    Comment of year. Class!

  121. 324
    Anonymous says:

    May as well apply for the nearest toilet cleaning job while I can, I don’t think there’s much point in me going to university in September.

    • 340
      toilet inspector says:

      Don’t bother mate. All toilet cleaning jobs are taken by East Europeans and other economic migrants, and a jolly good job they make of it too! However, the UK does have a very generous benefit system.

      • 346
        Anonymous says:

        I think you mean mate-ette. I could always get pregnant and claim housing benefit, I suppose.

    • 353
      Welfare guide says:

      Just go down to your nearest Yates on a Friday night and pick up an overweight chavette. 9 months later you’ll have a kid, a council house and more benefits than you can shake a stick at.

      If they have a go at you for not working, just clame you suffer from depression living under this Labour government and then you won’t even need to pretend you’re looking for work.

      Make sure you have lots of kids, council flats don’t usually go beyond about 3 bedrooms so your council will have to put you up in a proper house.

    • 392
      JobbyCentrePlusSupervisoryManagementAssistantDirector says:

      see my post at 373

      every little helps

  122. 327
    pissed off voter says:

    noted Hoon, Beckett and Milliband were lumped together as far away as possible. not a pretty sight. didn’t see McNulty, thieving bastard must still be hiding.

  123. 331
    stevo says:

    2.1 million unemployed, another 1.25 million unemployed byChristmas, Darling gives 1.7 BILLION to aid job center’s… 1 black marker pen (reusable) 1 blank sheet of white A3 paper = NO JOBS place in window. problem solved.!

    • 337
      Anonymous says:

      I’d get a job in the JobCentre if I could. Perhaps that’s what GB’s doing – employing the people who try to find jobs that he knows don’t exist for people like me.

  124. 333
    Gordon McMental MP says:

    Fuck all of you,
    Im alright Jock

  125. 334
    Master Baiter says:

    Excuse me while I remove Brown’s pathetic excuse for a tadger from my pile encrusted ringpiece

  126. 347
    mister smeeth says:

    Send \Gordon the shirt off your back, save him ripping it off

    http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2009/04/send-gordon-your-shirt-campaign.html

  127. 349
    Twizzle says:

    On a wing and a prayer

    By Martin Wolf

    Published: April 22 2009 14:37 | Last updated: April 22 2009 14:37

    Only Alistair Darling, most emollient of politicians, could manage to make this Budget seem boring. He is telling his country that British prosperity was, in important respects, as fraudulent as a collateralised debt obligation, that the boasts of “no more Tory boom and bust” are a joke, that the economic forecasts he gave only last November were nonsense and that the public finances are deteriorating at a rate never seen before in peacetime.

    Is the government finally being realistic about the scale of this disaster? Can it hope to get away with it, economically or politically? Does it deserve to do so? These are the questions for markets and analysts now and voters at some point in the next 12 months.

    In terms of the overall picture, the salient figures are already known: instead of economic contraction of 1 per cent this year, the Treasury now forecasts a decline of 3.5 per cent; instead of public sector net borrowing of 8 per cent of gross domestic product this financial year and 6.8 per cent next year, falling to 2.9 per cent in 2013-14, we now have 12.4 per cent this year, followed by 11.9 per cent next year and still 5.5 per cent in 2013-14; and instead of net debt at 57 per cent of GDP in 2013-14, we now have net debt at 79 per cent in 2013-14.

    This is a horror story. But it could, of course, be even worse. The economy may not recover as hoped; the losses on support for the banks could, as the International Monetary Fund suggests, be far worse; and, above all, the creditworthiness of the British government could come into question, with devastating consequences for the terms on which it can raise the vast sums required. The government is flying on a wing and a prayer.

    As a British citizen, I hope the government succeeds. But nobody can be sure it will do so. While mistakes were made by many, in the UK and abroad, and in the government and outside it, a government that made such large claims for the quality of its economic stewardship hardly deserves to survive such a debacle.

    Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2009

    Read Brown’s obituary!!

  128. 356
    I Spy With My Glass Eye says:

    Worst recession in living memory and no chance of upturn under Liebour.

    Highest borrowing ever and no chance of paying off the debt under Liebour.

    Jobless soaring and no chance of a return to work under Liebour.

    Signed, Gordon

    Well you can’t be optimistic with a misty optic!!!

  129. 359
    1SQ says:

    Nick Robinson really is a Labour toady but he ought to do more to try to hide it. Even the thicko’s who believe his every word can probably see through him today. You’d have thought he might want to talk about any number of issues arising from todays announcements but instead, in his crappy blog (which I have today unsubscribed from), today of all days, he tries to twist the 50% tax band announcement as if the issue is simply a problem for the Tories.

    Christ, is this really the quality of political reporting and comment that we are forced to pay the BBC for?

    Guido, you’ve embarrassed the toady journalists, thank you and well done. How about turning your sights on Robinson in particular?

  130. 364
    Ted Bundy says:

    Could someone on here please explain to me the purpose of the Government handing out £2000 for new car buyers towards the purchase of what will inevitably be an imported car? This money will go straight into the pockets of BMW and I’m sure Alistair Darling will be the toast of Munich this evening. Also as car construction has improved particularly anti corrosion resistance there are many perfectly good 10 year old cars running around. Does it really make environmental sense to scrap them given that the most polluting part of a cars life is when it is manufactured? Early scrapping of old but serviceable cars seems crazy. Could the money from this silly ill considered scheme not have been better spent elsewhere?

    • 373
      Gordy McBroon says:

      But but but – we’ll get a headline out of it!
      The people love me, I tell you… the love me!!

      • 391
        stevo says:

        “No Gordon, they loathe you.!, I knew your maths was bad, but I thought you could read”.!

    • 379
      it's all Balls says:

      Only a muppet couldn’t walk into any dealer and get £2k off a car. This is just another smoke and mirrors exercise.

  131. 367
    Anonymous says:

    A labour MP has just a few seconds ago said in the chamber ‘the first global recession’ we have EVER experienced” (Sir Staurt Bel apparently) he also stated clearly either support us or the party opposite doing opposite that will ensure ‘tory cuts’

  132. 375
    eye-eye says:

    But did he go anywhere for counting lessons….A great background for a Chancellor

    Alistair Darling was born in London[1] the son of a civil engineer, Thomas, and his wife, Anna. He is the great-nephew of Sir William Darling who was Conservative MP for Edinburgh South (1945–1957). He was educated in Kirkcaldy, and the private Loretto School, Musselburgh, East Lothian, then attended the University of Aberdeen where he was awarded a Bachelor of Laws (LL.B). He became the head of Aberdeen University Students Union. Before joining the Labour Party at the age of 23 in 1977, Darling was a supporter of the International Marxist Group, the British section of the Trotskyist Fourth International.[2][3][4] He became a solicitor in 1978, then changed course for the Scots bar and was admitted as an advocate in 1984. He was elected as a councillor to the Lothian Regional Council in 1982 where he supported large rates rises in defiance of Margaret Thatcher’s rate-capping laws and even threatened not to set a rate at all.[2] He served on the council until he was elected to Parliament. He was also a board member for the Lothian and Borders Police and became a governor of Napier College in 1985 for two years.

    • 386
      CuttingEdge says:

      Has he done an honest day’s (as in non-political) work in his life? Maybe behind the counter at McDonalds part-time as a student?

  133. 383

    great article!!! 10 of 10 for sure.

  134. 390
    David Davis MP says:

    All that’s needed now is for mad Hattie Harman to bring up her positive discrimination domantrix bill and the cabinet will have to move to India in Exile. Come on Hattie, don’t let your loony far left militant brigade down. Even if they don’t shave their armpits.

  135. 396
    CuttingEdge says:

    An 82A1 Barrett? Me likes your thinking.


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