Vince Doesn’t Do Forecasts
Guido was at the PoliticsHome budget preview last night (opinion report here) where Vince Cable was the star turn. This report is written through the haze of a hang-over, so as best Guido can recall he didn’t really say much new except that he didn’t expect to be Chancellor in a Lib-Lab coalition government. Guido asked Vince to give an estimate of where he saw interest rates, inflation and unemployment levels in two years time. He said he didn’t do predictions and then predicted 3 million unemployed, he thought inflation and interest rates would go higher but stay in single digits. So fix your mortgage rate now.
Ian Gibson MP was the only person more drunk than Guido and he gave a trenchant analysis of the Labour Party’s political position; “We’re F****d so we might as well just let rip on public spending.” He also told Guido “what comes around, goes around”. Wonder what he meant?
Did anyone mention my pension?
You are okay, but the rest of them are stuffed…
UK company pension funds are now in the red to the tune of over £240bn – the biggest shortfall ever recorded. And here’s the irony. It’s partly due to QE – quantitative easing, the Bank of England’s cash printing press, which is supposed to be bailing Britain out.
And there are even bigger pension problems looming. With the economy going downhill fast, more firms will go bust and the company fund deficit will just keep climbing.
The Guvnor and me will be alright, Augusto
That’s cos QE is another way of saying let’s sweep these problem under the carpet…
Those people wanting to use “the carpet” in the future are taking account of the “sweepings” under it.
Sorry about the pension funds. shit happens. mine is quite handsome and guaranteed by the taxpayer
QE causes inflation. Inflation is a useful device to reduce debt, new money is worth more than the old money so you pay off debt more cheaply. So it benefits Governments with large debts or people who may have taken on large mortgages, loans and credit cards. It is also a useful device to restore money from older people to the younger ones. i.e. pensioners on fixed income to younger people who see their pay rising. I think the threat of stagnation was useful in bringing in QE. This will be good news to the Government and people with large debts, homeowners, buy to let businessmen. It is a useful device for salesmen, remember when they use to say “better buy it today because tomorrow it going be dearer” So it will get things moving. Smart money saw this coming hence the rise in gold.
The Honourable Member is on the ball! Smart. With pension funds in free fall there is not a lot of hope for people working in the private sector. Best, specially if you are young, to get out now and get a job in government. With the Labour party now trying to boost it’s core vote now is a good time to jump on board. Not once have any of my friends in government lost their job, so its safe as well. Smart university leavers are doing this right now.
Augusto,
Those private pension funds will be invested whereas the government pension fund will be paid in government paper.
I think I’ll keep my cash SIPP for now.
this made me laugh:
http://www.torybear.com/2009/04/very-good-reason-to-get-haircut.html
Vince would definitely FREAK OUT – FUCKING BIG TIME!
Assuming our hero’s memories of Mr. Gibson’s comments to be more accurate that a Government Press Release ‘interpreted’ by the BBC, might I ask any constitutional experts here if the incumbent government is really meant to squander what’s left of the people’s hard-earned in an orgy of excess… just because things didn’t work out and they, currently.. can?
People, historically, have been hung, drawn and quartered for less.
Thanks – this QE stuff leading to inflation (ie the tax you didn’t vote for) looks like a sensible prediction. That’s why I’m buying Index-linked National Savings Certs, and hoping they don’t start fiddling the index to cut me short. I’ve also kept some gold back for emergencies, just like any prudent finance guru should do…..
Oh and I’ve spead my remaining dosh around the World to avoid the further sterling trashing that will happen when Brown has to give the IMF a visit. On that point, I would reccommend that O’Donnell or Balls helps him tie his tie that morning so the IMF chaps don’t think they’re dealing with a clumsy oaf with no self-respect (easy mistake to make in this case).
Well, Peter, I am up for it if you are. I just happen to have a pre-owned tumbril available at an attractive price. Never raced or rallied, shackles and fetters are optional extras.
Now another one is leaking , you couldn’t make this up!
Yes, Peter. The treasonous shits will be quite happy to take us all down with them.
Who will be first to make this circus video into a YouTube pisstake?
Count down starts now.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/3553301/smile-smile-smile.thtml
Its intentionally hilarious so you’ll still be laughing through tomorrows budget.
He looks completely bonkers.
This man Brown is really sick. He needs help, anyone recommend a good pschotherapist?
W’or Vince truly is a genius at that economics stuff. Interest rates to go higher eh? Did the LibDems have a team of monkeys with calculators working all week on that prediction?
Seriously though, now’s not the time to fix your mortgage, now is the time to sell up and get whatever you can for the house and buy gold. Get the DeLorien fired up, Doc, we’re going back in time to the 1970s.
Interest rates to go higher eh?…
Errr where else can they go ???
My shock prediction is that the Tories will thrash Labour and finances will get better over the next three years…
Higher? I think Brucie would have said “Good card, good card” to our Vince.
Not yet they won’t.
The only thing stopping 60,000,000 of us from marching on Parliament and hanging the lot of them from lamp posts is effectively “free” house loans. Reposessions on a grand scale would see civil war.
TO 22 Ed, the only thing stopping me is the lack of interest income on my savings – can’t afford the bus fare, let alone the train fare!
Interest rates are far to low at the moment we need to get the rate up say 8 to 11% (I know not the rate on Credit Cards) Restore the banks profits and enable them to release more cash for first time buyers and get business moving. Under Norman Lamont they rose from 10% to 15%, The top man for us savers.
There are too many Mr Beans ‘reaping where they have not sown’. What we need is the total collapse of the monetary system. Its a great leveller of the playing field. This is far more effective than any other political method of equality. It will cut crime by 99% for starters. The poor [robbing hood] will not need to hold up the rich on the highway of life as we will be all equal. Its about time they understood and felt what the poor and needy have had to endure for a lifetime because of the greed and avarice of those who are reaping and plundering.
FrogDog has a great idea there. Yes lets start from square one. The sick and the old will stay poor. Fat people, smokers and drinkers will be at a disadvantage. Hard workers will be okay, those that get up early will be okay and those that get up early and work late will be okay. Smart intelligent people will work out all the angles to get these hard workers on board. Yes I see see fat profits for us smart intelligent people… bring it on!
Senor Pinochet. The interest rates were high under Lamont because thats the only known effective way to control inflation. I do believe we will get high rates in the future because huge PSBR and the impending hyperinflation will have to be brought under control. Thats the only reason Im not drawing out the ISA dosh and blowing it. Even basic rate tax on interest of 10 to 15 percent is significant, and its only my clever accountant that stops me paying 40 percent on interest receivable.
Had the saviour of the world kept the rate up a bit in the last decade, or tempered crazy house bubbles with restrictions on credit or capital gains tax on property not held for long terms, and actually been prudent with the public finances instead of just bullshitting, then perhaps we’d not be in this mess – which started in america ha ha ha
Cable seems to be the only trustworthy politician about these days !
Just read that GB is going to set about transforming MPs allowances next week ! thought he told Dc that it should all wait for the committee on allowances to report. why the sudden panick all of a sudden ? surely not an attempt to influence the news agenda !!
Gibson must have been truly sloshed at the bucket….looks like labour have had the comeuppance – as it should be “what GOES around COMES around”
Karma, it’s a wonderful thing.
At least Gibson let the cat out the bag and admitted what is clear for most to see. Only the most deluded realise that Labour will ever make cuts in public spending; the figure they were talking about was derisory and shock horror, won’t come in until after the next election!
Labour will be out of power by then (thank god!) but they’ll get their comrades in the unions to cause mass strikes and attempt to disrupt the conservatives attempts to get the country moving again. Still, if the tories slash the non-jobs and make sure benefits are only for the deserving they’ll be able to start reducing the core labour voter base over time
Don’t forget the impact of postal votes!
ZaNuLieBor will max them out!
Luckily all labour voters work in sectors where you won’t really notice they’re on strike, except from faster commute times.
An honest politician is correct – no way is GB going to decimate the payroll vote ……until after the next election – assuming NL win which I very much doubt
Comrades in the Unions? PMSL. We shopfloor soldiers have had enough of these creatures. Time to replace them with anything, it matters not one jot. The sooner New Labour, Lo-Salt Labour Lite or whatever nonsense it cares to call itself these days does the decent thing and collapses, the sooner we workers can build a party that represents us and not the pigs that are more equal than us.
Couldn’t agree more.
I noticed that apart from there being no electric cars to buy, that “green” initiative will not happen til After Liebour gets fucked at the election. I bet they weep much crocodile tears when Dave drops that in his first budget.
tax revenue will decrease by 9% this year and at the same time the economy is forecast to shrink by 3%.
the only way we will get out of this recession in less than ten years is by claiming what is ours. we, the taxpayer, are majority shareholders in several banks, therefore we own them. the governments coffers need the profits generated by its banks to balance the countrys’s books.
it is the only and thankfully the best way forward.
the moral hazard governor king was talking about was precisely that: how can you sell something to someone and keep it for yourself without becoming a thief?
the banks are ours and darling must state that fact or be damned to hell as a collaborator of the thieving bankers.
stand by your lamp posts and test your rope, for if England’s history is anything to go by this could get very fucking nasty indeed.
The problem is what sits behind the banks, that is, the toxic assets and loans held across the fincial sector that is being unerwritten (on our behalf) by this shite government. This will come back and bite us big time and any profits the banks make will pale into insignificance against these looming losses. Its too late now but the banks should have been allowed to fail. The good assets would be bought up by by more conservative companies and the rest consigned to bankruptcy.
ah, Ivor, a sensible point. but a false premise.
we, the taxpayers are responsible in any case for the toxic debt.
so we might as well own the banks we are majority shareholders of in order to benefit from future profits.
as for the toxic debt, well bad debt always was, is, and will be with us. we will just have to write off the worst and negotiate the rest. which is just as you suggested should already have happened.
simple really, innit.
I am not disagreeing with you at all TAT. I am just sorry that we are where are, nay more than sore, absolutely livid (especially being a shareholder in Lloyds TSB waitng for revenge at the next AGM).
Does anyone here understand securitization cos I doubt it – You are all repeating the mantra of toxic deb which like the banks you probably think started in America with the defaulting trailer trash – it’s bullshit & everyone who’s interested (which should mean all of us) needs to read the latest Treasury Committee’s report
now we are getting to the heart of the matter.
the bankers have proved to be untrustworthy. they know no better and have been allowed to run riot in pursuit of their own short term gain. as, probably, would we all, eh?
as we know the bankers are untrustworthy it falls to us, the taxpayer, to force the government to stop acting like rabbits caught in headlights and take ownership of the banks we have majority shareholdings in.
I understand that the current government is itself untrustworthy and stuffed full of degenerates but they will be gone soon and if there is one thing they should do before being kicked out it is to take the banks we have control of into public ownership.
on a personal level, banks under public ownership and under a decent government, would protect your investment in the future better than a private company.
if we do not take ownership then we will repeat the cycle and, I fear, it will become more severe with each turn.
the tories talk of stability yet shy away from ownership of the banks. could it be because their friends own them?
and if you expect any help from the tory millionaires’ club prepare to be disappointed.
regards, etc.
here here
apathist voter,
sub prime debt, war and occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan and hyper-inflation in the housing market have all contributed to the fucking mess that the new labour war and occupation party have led us into.
oh, and american taxpayers have given israel over 200 billions in the last ten years to pay for israel to drop bombs on palestian women and children.
if I were and american, I would be fucking annoyed that my tax dollars were being used commit war crimes, wouldn’t you?
new labour have totally fucked it up.
we must withdraw from Afghanistan immediately.
no fucking about.
The Banks and Bankers have failed just like British Steel, Coal, British Leyland did in the 70s. Now, as then we should let the market work. It not that the idea of capitalism? Like a good Tory! Punish the useless reward the profitable. In my mind they are just as bad as the unions in the 70s. That time is was the workers, this time it was management. We have to sit back and ask the question are we any good? The banks should have gone under. The Government pick up the profitable parts and let the bad sink. At a later date sell back into the private sector. The system will not work if you keep propping up zombie business.
fuck off pinochet you nazi, we paid for them and so we want the profits from them.
why are you trying to give away something the public own and will benefit from?
you should be careful you fucking turncoat, else you might get mistaken for a banker in all the confusion and get strung up like those thieves.
let me make sure I have this right: are you seriously arguing against being an owner of a bank, is that your line you cretin?
unfuckingbelievable innit!
hold on pinochet, you must be a tory, right?
you fucking pillock.
When the banks failed the public did not own them. Im sorry if you misunderstood. That is when we should have let them fail. Come on do you want capitalism, no Government intervention, or do you want some kind on “on the fence” socialism? The banks had the freedom to work the market just like the rest of us. That was correct try as much as you like if you are a right winger you can not this blame the goverment for LESS interference. (its called freedom) Or do you think that the Goverment should have interfered with with the money market prior to 2007?
could’ve, would’ve, should’ve: no fucking good pinochet, no fucking good. if I looked like brad pitt I would be shagging beautiful women all fucking day long and I would certainly not be communicating with a retard like you. but I am not and here I amto tell you your argument that we should of done this or that holds not a drop of water.
and it is interesting to note that you failed to answer my two key questions.
so you are a tory (but to ashamed to admit it) and you are a taxpayer who is against being an owner of a bank.
you fucking spastic!
it rather proves my point that tories are intellectual weaklings. crazy for power, but, just like tony blair, you haven’t got a fucking clue what to do with it if you get it.
useless.
Yes of course Im a Tory, and as a taxpayer I did not wish to bailout failed banks. We believe in free markets and of cause freedom of speech. Useful as an insight into people’s character.
never mind whether you wished to bail them out, that is exactly what has happened.
and now having bailed them out and being held liable for their debt, after restoring them back into profitability, you want to give the banks back to the arseholes who got us into the shit in the first place.
you truly are a total fucking spastic pinochet.
it is clear for all the good readers to see that you have been intellectually trounced, your brains have been bashed so much that they are splattered all over this thread.
you sir, are living proof that members of the tory party have no intellectual depth whatsoever.
well done!
methinks with cretins like this in the tory party a hung parliament will be assured.
Another Socialist here I suspect, usual socialist thoughtless bile, slagging of Brown but will scuttle back to the Labour fold come the election.
Last night the IMF released a statement that the bank ‘bail out’ far from creating an eventual pay off to the country will in fact cost the taxpayers £140 billion pissed up the wall. To intervene in the free markets was total madness. Now the goverment is using QE to reduce the value of debt through inflation, god help those on fixed incomes in years to come.
red fag, so you must be pinochet’s girlfriend, right?
I am a firm believer in British Parliamentary Democaracy and I am also a capitalist.
you fucking arse.
but thanks very much for supplying the readers with another prime example of what intellectual cripples tory party members are.
this is far too easy. I almost feel as if I am lynching spastics.
a guilty pleasure.
Don’t go for walks alone Guido – as it says down the road “You’ll never walk. (Alone…) “
I wonder how much Campbell and Lord Hinduja would like to see the following headline?
“Blogger found mysteriously drowned in pool of Guinness Near Lambeth Bridge – Police Mystified – Lord Hutton called in for Enquiry, Shock”
Though my personal betting is that they’ll try to do you with paedophilia smears first, with a carefully crafted trail of ‘reliable’ police evidence. That normally finishes most people off.
‘spect Guidos got his stuff coverd somewhere hope so. And the enemy’s not stupid – if he wasn’t squaeky=clean they’d have done him by now.
Guido squeaky clean? LMFAO he’s far from it. Difference is Guido admits he’s done drugs and been arrested for being drunk and disorderly, onlike the bunch in Westminster who claim “I didn’t inhale” and expect the country to believe it. Far better for them to turn round and say “yes I smoked dope at Cambridge, as did pretty much all of the opposition. We were students, what the fuck do you expect us to do when not sleeping through lectures!”
“We’re F****d so we might as well just let rip on public spending.”
MAD
Mutually assured destruction…
This country will self destruct in 18 months…. please leave the country now
this is not a drill
I repeat this is not a Drill
I dont think vince Cable is any great shakes, however in comparison to the rest of the shite in westminster he shines.
Vince succeeds for the same reason as Frank Field. He doesn’t immediately fill you with the urge to attack him with a claw hammer.
In the spirit of generosity you could at least have included Ed Balls and Harperson.
Ed Balls does not fill you with the urge to attack him with a claw hammer. You are filled with an almost irresitable urge to hang weights from his ignorant, fat, lisping tongue just to see how much it would take to pull it from his head.
Only the tongue? I’d go for the eponymous organs – assuming he has any.
It would be bad enough touching the fucker’s tongue. To be honest he’s got the look of someone who smells a bit so I wouldn’t want to go routling around in his undercrackers attatching weights to anything.
See the expenses are going to be overhauled. Flat fixed-rate allowance.
Even worse. Expect the allowance to be greater than the current limits (taxed?).
so all those shits like Smith, McNulty and the rest are going to stroll off with hundreds of thousands? draw a line under it? I don’t think so. Accountability is the starting point for any changes to their expenses.
Brown Will do anything to stay in power, £23,000 now will become £25,500 says mp’s will back him all the way.
As for it being taxed?… we will be paying that not them.
“special measures for the long term sick” Where I live they’ve already started They are demanding the still very sick come for interview…….even if they can’t enter the building due to disability – reason the bonus payments made for each successful ‘reassignment’
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6140483.ece
Special measures for the long term sick. I’m guessing here but I suspect the special measures are going to be something along the lines of just giving them the money no questions asked rather than, say, sending investigators round to their house to film them doing the gardening.
You’ve got to feel for the little lambs being expected to turn up on Friday. Somehow POETF day doesn’t have quite the same ring to it.
Attendance allowance?? FFS, I get paid a wage to turn up and do my job. I would fucking love an “attendance allowance” on top of that just for turning up to do what I am paid to do in the first place.
Re-arrange the following: Trough with a Pigs their in snouts.
Gibson from memory is one of the few decent Labour MPs, (not very often I write a statement like that) I wonder to which degree of f****d they are, 200MPs returned, 150, 100, or a mouthwatering 50.
Gibson, from memory, is a rabid left winger ( think there are two of them similary named). One of the boys with a complete reality by pass from the day to day earning a living in the private sector , like normal people do.
Team Cameron need to come out and be upfront to public servants, that if they are ‘reckless’ with the public finances over the next year, it is likely to lead to deeper cuts subsequently.
If he was decent, why the implied threat to Guido, which is how I read his remark?
I went down to my local pub last night…and the opinion is ” Its (the next general ellection) is in the bag”…and Europe will be the winner and take over the running of the uk.
Thought it was anyway.
From reputable HP sauces, Brown’s latest initiative to save the world which will be announced in tomorrows budget is to nationalise TESCO after they recorded record profits today.
He was said to be impressed with the rows of headless chickens, said it reminded him of the House of Commons.
Governments have form on that.
Thatcher did it with the TSB; that was sold even though the government never actually owned it.
Advisers: “We can’t sell it because we don’t own it.”
PM: “ok then; I’ll pass a law that says we own it, then we’ll sell it.”
Marvellous.
From now on the lyrics to the popular ditty “Lloyd George knew my Father”
will be changed to
” Lloyd George was vaguely aware of my father who may or may not have have sat in on some meetings with him albeit unknowingly and was not really paying attention to what may or may not have been discussed. ”
Thank you
O/T Quote of the day……IPCC chairman in front of the select committee said” I dont mean an inquiry with a capital E” must have had a state education education education.What a wanker.
In our programs we spell it “enquiry”. Either form is permissable.
that he didn’t expect to be Chancellor in a Lib-Lab coalition government. ”
So-thats the cat out of the bag then!
Vote libdum-get Mr Bean for the next 5 years!!
says it all really!
Or could mean they’ll go Lib-Con and demand PR in return. Unlikely to form a government against the majority decision given their desire for PR.
No-if they go lib-con they will face total wipeout N of the border-although at present they are in 4th place there!
F. Transparency of MPs’ Second Incomes. The Prime Minister has already asked the Committee on Standards in Public Life to look into the issue of MPs and second jobs, in order to avoid conflicts of interest and
to reflect the fact that MPs receive a parliamentary salary for a full time job.
Meanwhile, there should be greater transparency.
Tra laa!
143 days per year, and you call that a full time job?
The other 222 days are hollidays(paid )
the other 222 are spent going through bins collecting likely receipts
* a song for Ambrose Silk*
All together now….. A one, a two, a one two three four…..
Brown’s turd in the ring
Tra la la la la
Brown’s turd in the ring
Traa la la la la la
Brown’s turd in the ring
Tra la la la la
And it look’s like the jobbie’s Ambrose Silk
Tra la la
Show me the motion
Tra la la la la
Show me the mo-otion
Traa la la la la la
Show me the motion
Tra la la la
And it looks like the jobbie’s Ambrose Silk
Tra la la!
With sincerest apologies to Boney-M.
Why does anyone care what the chancellor says? Its not a budget as in the noun, it’s a corruption of “budge it” to any number that appears spinnable on the day.
Where in the last ten budgets has anything been reliable except for “tax is going up” ?
The only certain saving that can be made is to get rid of this shower right now
I think a “Fudge It” is probably a far more apt term.
Given previous anouncements it could also be “bodge it”
With any luck, bodge it and scarper.
Cleggover has ensured that only the truly clueless will vote for his party.
I’ve said it before and I will say it again -
“anyone who votes for the lying Huhne that is nick ‘suck the EU’s cock till its spunk is pouring all over his face and in his mouth faster than he can fucking drink it’ has got to be a spastic.”
erm, I think that covers the whole libdem thing.
Why would anyone vote for the LibDems?
Whats the point in voting for any of them?
I havn’t bothered voting since I voted this shower of shit in!
I haven’t voted since 83. What’s the point?
The point in voting is to vote this shower of shit out.
Also to reduce their number of MPs (in spite of the rigged voting system that is biased in their favour) to such a low level that the party implodes.
58 weeks to the General Election. Bring it on!
I share your sentiments. When it comes to voting, the choice is shit, shit or shit. However, might I suggest that any shit is better than the shit we have at the moment. Until, we are all angry enough – getting closer – to take to the streets, your vote is your only weapon.
The point of voting is to ensure that yours cancels out a vote for the Hoons. It was apathy that let this bunch of Huhnes in again for one time too many.
Must people with private sector pensions regret them getting just one go at playing with the country though.
Roll on 3/6/10, it can’t come a day too soon.
Core Labour voters stay Labour, they won’t vote for another party, they stay at home. Any floating voters that don’t fancy voting Tory will vote Lib Dem. Lib Dems are strong in Tory seats. So Lib Dem gains are from Tories. So if you want Tory Government you need to vote.
Do you seriously think the Tories will be better?
They are all a complete bunch of wankers!
Don’t agree “Disgruntled” – nothing can be as bad as this government.
At least the tories are educated (well, most of them) and don’t believe in destroying anything or anyone that’s good. The tories understand the economy and wealth creation and clearly labour don’t have a clue.
Every single time labour have been in power since the 1920s they have left the british economy in absolute turmoil. Why can’t we learn from experience that they really are not up to the job? At least the tories left Blair with a budget surplus in 97 – something that Brown managed to quickly reverse.
It is impossible to be worse than this bunch of screwed up nulabour misfits we call a government.
Like my father before me I have always voted labour until the last election – that pretty much covers the life of the labour party but I sure as hell won’t be voting for them again – at least not until the party has been purged by the old labour activists
It doesn’t matter who you vote for, the government always gets in.
nice of gordon to start making political announcements on youtube now re expenses.
perhaps he has decided that if the msm is losing out to the internet perhaps he can avoid parliament altogether and govern on the internet to curry favour with “the new media”??
what a hoon.
like you I’m not conviced of Brown’s sincerity, but I’m glad to see the him forced to use the words ‘trust’ and ‘politician’ in the same sentence – Oh how that must hurt
correction: he used the word ‘confidence’ not ‘trust’
I take it all back
no matter, he doesn’t know the meaning of either of them.
It was “confidence” and “trick”, I believe.
The Troughers should also be required to repay the expenses being rescinded by these proposals!
Their second homes should be sold and the monies paid back to the taxpayers, NOT the public purse which Darling/Gibson would squander!
he avoids face-to-face questioning by using youtube. shades of the Lisbon treaty farce in this. He wrote a book called ‘courage’, don’t you know.
Brown: MPs Second Home Allowance to be abolished!
(To be replaced by daily attendance allowance)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8009901.stm
Well done Guido
Quick! Quick! It’s Hazel this time….
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/5193878/Hazel-Blears-blunders-by-revealing-expenses-statement-in-Downing-Street.html
surely if she is in breech of rules for making it public before it is put before parliament then is gordon also not guilty by putting it on youtube first??
Way to go!
Doubtless the Home Secretary was straight on to this leak and the heavy mob are already on the way – or maybe she’s engrossed in a video.
Yes, but I’m sure this is all deliberate.
Quick’s faux pas was deliberate so he wouldn’t be around for the report on the Damien Green affair….released a week after his resignation.
Bonkers Blears (insecure and feelings of social inadequacy) probably thinks this is a subtle way of leaking info – most likely on the orders of Dame Mandy. She’s a trollope and will do whatever she’s told.
Haven’t these fucking idiots ever heard of a bag?
It’s a start. Though they can still be fiddled as they do in the Euro Parliament – At the end of the week there is a steady procession of MEPs carrying their things with them when they register for that day’s attendance, in the morning, then they bugger off home.
Shit idea just look at the MEPs.
They should clock in and out.
I wonder what bought about this “u” turn considering that Cameron and Clegg have repeatedly suggested a sit down to thrash out a solution and were just as consistently ignored, sidelined and outvoted overwhelmingly by Labour troughers the last time a vote was called.
To deflect attention from all the shite that’s going to be flying around tomorrow.
Small print says the Guvnor ans Mrs Guvnor will be exempted from this abolition nonsense.
This is a typical cop out whereby the deserving [difficult concept with an MP, I know] loose out.
An MP from Inverness needs an accommodation allowance, or provided accommodation. An MP from Fulham doesn’t; if an MP from Fulham’s home is somewhere else, that’s his lookout.
Why should an MP from Fulham get any allowance that incorporates an accommodation element?
This is just the same sort of thing as putting the price of booze up to discourage piss heads.
“”An MP from Inverness needs an accommodation allowance”"
They have their own Parliament in Jockland don’t they ????
Anyway – these MPs need a block of flats to live in – owned by the State.
A prison would be suitable for some … but we could use all this accomodation from the Olympic games to house them in afterwards – and do away with their second home allowance altogether
This is one of the reasons why the Lib Dems have a high expense allocation. Look at their seats – Cornwall, Highlands & Islands etc. I totally agree with your point.
However, it would be easier to accomodate them centrally at Westminster. Just think of the improved security and greater openness.
If it is good enough for serving Soldiers etc, then surely it is good enough for the Hoons?
Hamish – we have MPs and MSPs (and considering Edinburgh is still an 8 hour round trip for my local MSP) in need of additional accommodation.
I’ve just been looking at the Times during lunch and see that their take is that Brown wants to push this through.
Stand by for Brown the saviour, safeguarding the taxpayer against the greedy Executive. The rush out quickly in case you puke at the abject hypocrisy of the man and all he represents.
To Hamish Macbeth and others who like his suggestion.
Brilliant idea!
See http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/MP2ndHome/
Agreed, this is patently unfair and as with all rush-through decisions smacks of panic.
Someone shoudl get a map and a pair of compasses, and draqw a circle at say 40 miles from Parliament, designating a cut-off for “2nd Home MPs”.
2nd homes to be rented, and nto to cost more than a certain amount – that being the mean average of the commercial rents of flats in Band 2 of the tube.
Alternatively, the country purchases a large block of flats for the use of MPs and provides secuity, office services, and a car service to and fro. NO OTHER ALLOWANCES!
The rest of us have to pay to get to work, our of our salaries. T is no excuse for profiteering on a house-price boom created entirely by the destruction of the value of savings
Vince Cable is the most overrated politician there is. He must suffer from some sort of brain disease (does he have one of those mad person pendants that allows the nursing home to track you?) as he changes what he says from day to day.
He was asked on sky the other day about HIS budget. All he did was waffle for 10 minutes about what he wouldn’t do.
When Cable is on the BBC he’s treated like a correspondent rather than a grubby politician.
Cable couldn’t be treated like a correspondent by the BBC – he isn’t a Labour supporter.
Ian Gibson’s remark “We’re F****d so we might as well just let rip on public spending.” just shows you exactly why socialists are never fit for government. It is the most truthful statement I have yet seen of the scorched tactics being used by New Labour. It puts them right up their with other notable totalitarians, Polpot Hitler Stalin to name but three.
What an indictment that these people should care so little for the country that they think it at all exuseable to act like this.
Is Gibson Dr Who?
We’re F****d so we might as well just burn the prospects of a generation and carry out our malign plans.
Labour are socialists and belive in a sharing, inclusive and empowerment etc.. That means when they get F****d we get some F****d too.
“The only virtue of socialism is the equality of misery”.
I just wrote a somehwhat longer summary of a similar Vince event this morning. he is a real socialist at heart, screaming to get out. Long has he supped at the teet of the state.
http://cityunslicker.blogspot.com/2009/04/vinces-budget-breakfast.html
Wasnt Cable an economist for royal Dutch Shell?
Who would have gone tits up if it wasnt for a spike in oil prices.
Run by Hoons
Anyway , what normal person would join the LibDems?
As my father Dennis says
“Who are these people and what do they want?”
How many fathers have you got?
I heard Shell was set up originally by transferring the Rothschilds’ Azerbaijan oil shares to the company to protect them in the face of the impending Russian revolution. I think a lot of hoonery went on then.
so what’s your point?
Not entirely sure if true (it came from someone who used to work in the oil industry but whom I believe to be a pathological liar) but the story is that the ultimate owner of Shell (after you get through all the hoops of who owns what and how many shares in whichever) is actually the Queen.
The company was originally called Royal Dutch Shell. Not our Queen mate!
lol, means nothing. It’s now a privately owned company and as such owned by many people. All I said was that he stated that the majority shareholder was rumoured to be the Queen. I also stated that I believed him to be a pathological liar.
They are the nearest thing to a tory the Scots will stand.
Most English cannot stand the Scots, Spunky, and the English Tories probably assumed that they wouldn’t vote for them anyway.
He is a bit of a twat it has to be said.
The only thing he’s ‘useful’ for is filling a bit of airtime on ‘News’ channels.
And his very own column in the MOS.
WTF – more of my taxes on non-jobs. “The Training and Development Agency is overseeing the introduction of PSAs across England” and “The TDA says there are currently 2,254 advisers working to support parents and their children in 7,608 schools” (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8009919.stm)
If we assume they cost £20k each then 2,254 advisers cost £45,080,000 – how many more of these people are we expected to pay for ?
Actually it doesn’t matter – I’ve given up and left the UK. I hope the effing place sinks. I/We/you deserve it for allowing them to do this to our country.
I’m out too, leaving Monday. Not paying for their shite anymore
Remember to turn on all the lights before you go
We hope to be leaving soon too. It just can’t come quickly enough for us.
I left also, well my affairs are “re-arranged”…have a house there still, should have rented it to an MP.
I come back twice a year, doing that since 2002 and have noted my own indicator of the financial downturn – being that on my visits I always nip into WH Smiths to stock up on Maynards Wine Gums, I have noticed that people smell much worse than they did, so although I notice plenty of expensive cellphones, Nintendo DS and 100 quid training shoes, not much evidence of the use of soap, clearly an important thing to cut back on in a financial crisis.
Mines, I have never felt slimmer than when wandering around Street, Somerset as I did last week. The other thing highly noticeable was the sheer numbers of “aggressive poor”; i.e. idle (pace to the excellent Sussex blogger of the same name) bloaters, their bodies and lives wholly nourished by the state, and thus with absolutely no need to show any respect to, civility for, or interest in their fellow human beings. The diametrical opposite of my very own Paolo The Peasant, in fact.
Capitalism is mutually beneficial reciprocation, socialism is extortion.
Which is more likely to make people polite?
An interesting analysis by David Selbourne of how NuLab and its voters got here:
http://tinyurl.com/d8mxzw
In the event DFS blames ‘Human Rights’ for fostering this destructive cult of the self
I didn’t “allow” them to do this to this country.
I’ve never voted Labour in my life but I’ve been outnumbered
at the last three elections (and anyway the system is bent in favour of
the Labour Party).
Looking back, this country has changed beyond all recognition
in the last twelve years. Visiting London is like going to some
foreign land, which is hardly surprising as most of the residents
appear to have been born elsewhere.
This is exactly my point. I was queuing waiting for a bank to open last week and struck up a conversation with an elderly couple waiting in front of me. Both said that there was no decency or respect for anyone in this country any more. The gentleman fought in WW2 and he said the community spirit had disappeared. Nobody cares about anyone else. They didn’t even know who their neighbours were.
Our motorways are strewn with rubbish, our streets have gum stuck all over them, and there are no morals handed down to children.
This is not what we want, which is why we’re making plans to leave. Other european countries do have communities and we have friends already living abroad who have been welcomed and accepted by their foreign neighbours. There are no street cameras, yellow lines or traffic wardens. If youngsters are found getting up to no good, they are dealt with swiftly and without fuss. Our friends can leave their cars and houses unlocked all day and nobody steals from them. Sounds like heaven to me.
you are quite correct about London. the driving reminds me of Lagos.
I don’t even queue at the bank anymore since a couple of years ago I was finally forced to write and complain to NatWest (a city centre branch) because of having to share the space with dogs on strings, kids in pushchairs (and the carpets surrounding them) being fed carbs and saturated fats by the fingerload, and finally (tipping point) some fat tart consuming an entire McDonald’s “Happy McStinky” meal at the counter next to me whilst conducting her transactions.
The written reply from what read like a girly 22 year old soppy student type AKA the supposed branch manager? “We try to be an inclusive organisation serving a diverse section of people from the community”.
Well I thought, you can fook right off. And now I only do everything online. I was looking forward to the resultant staff cuts but since the government is picking up the tab I would not be surprised if should I call in again I’d find the counter staff eating kebabs whilst serving me…
JC Brown needs the votes so the sky will be the limit
Hastings, I don’t know the course, but have you tried Big Bertha on it?
I reckon Vince the Cable knows no more about sound finance than Gordon the Gobbler does…..it’s all bluff.
Completely O/T Guido.
But have you seen the monocular fat fuckwits latest ‘getting down wiv da yoof’ effort. -
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/3553301/smile-smile-smile.thtml
I nearly choked laughing at his fake grin being switched on and off like a mental patient with electrodes stuck up his arse.
The knobhead obviously forgot his medication before dancing and gurneying for the camera. Watch it without sound, it’s hilarious.
Quasimodo:
Watching without sound is the ONLY way to watch McTwat
When that evil two-faced bastard appears on TV, I can’t reach for the mute button fast enough….
My God – that video was disturbing. Brown looks totally demented the way he’s jigging around and grinning every now and then for no obvious reason.
When he’s not laughing, he ducking and diving like a boxer. For fuck sake somebody punch the Huhne’s lights out.
I am put in mind of those chinese “kung fu” films with really bad lip synch. Everything about that clip came across as amateurish and insincere. He seemed to be making it up as he went along.
I heard him refer to young people growing up and wanting to be “firemen” and “ambulancemen”. Politically correct? I think not!! What would Harriet say??
As for wanting to be an MP “when they grow up”. Most of the stupidity in the House of Commons is a direct result of retarded development.
God in heaven. I just showed it to my four-year-old with the sound turned off. He’s now cringing under the bed saying he wants to sleep in our bed tonight. More frightening than Obnoxio the Clown any day…
Clartmonkey – try playing the video again but this time with “The Hampsterdance” by Hampton the Hampster playing in the background. I’m sure your four year old child will cheer up at the sight of the funny man dancing to the cheery music.
When your child isn’t in the room, try “Feel Good Inc” by Gorrilaz as the backing music and be very afraid…
It should have an 18 certificate for weirdness. Don’t let any more children see it, it’s a form of child abuse.
Once again Mr Bean has gone to work with his tie a mess – what does Mrs B have to do that’s more important than tieing the PM’s tie every morning?
It conjours up Jerry St Clair and the Phoenix Club band’s first degree murder of “You’d better smile”.
He needs treatment urgently, or was mandy operating the strings.
wooo hooo – just watched it with the sound down and laughed so much a little bit of wee came out.
Is this McMental’s El Cid moment with a pole up his arse and people jerking strings and switching electrodes to simulate life in the corpse. Almost had me fooled until that kiddyfiddler grin flashed on. Nobody can simulate that.
What a weirdo. I think its the speed at which he switches between cheesy grin and glum scowl, then back again that is most unsettling.
Its as if Brown’s body is being possessed by Blair, but is fighting back
What a seriously disturbing video – McMental really is abnormal. The mongtastic jaw drop, the random gurning, the stream of lies, the demented bobbing around — a danger to national security if ever there was one. Would you like this guy as a babysitter?
Jeeeez…lost for words.
And its a no from me so that makes 3 No’s piss off !
GUIDO – PLEASE PUT THIS CLIP AT THE TOP OF YOUR BLOG SO MORE CAN SEE IT AND COMMENT. IT IS BLOODY HILARIOUS – QUENTIN LETTS HAS PICKED IT UP.
The top of the last paragraph is missing/obscured.WHO told you ‘what goes around,comes around’?
double click in the area where words are missing – or refresh your screen
Yes, we are fucked. Begin saving your money under your mattresses now. I used to be the chancellor, I know what I’m talking about. This all started in America, you know.
I can get you on the next BA flight to LA – one way.
No, – I will not be silenced! I INSIST ON BEING HEARD!!!
Have I thanked the Taxpayers for my lovely Bath Plug yet?
Allow me to say it is very nice.
It fits beautifully, and I am very pleased with it.
Thank you
Christ the Sun is even going out. Has Gordon Brown been there recently?
That C*nt is about as lucky as a bastard on fathers day.
I spit my coffee out all over myself having just read that bastard child remark. Absolute classic, I shall be stealing that!
Smacks of Chubby Brown.
What is the government scared of now ?????
POLICE SHUT DOWN 11.30AM PROTEST… DEMONSTRATE OUTSIDE TREASURY 5PM-7PM!
The police have refused to authorise our planned demonstration on Whitehall at 11.30am and have made clear that, if it takes place, the organiser will be liable to arrest and imprisonment for up to a year.
To avoid any police action against protesters turning up, we have been forced to cancel this demonstration.
Our protest from 5pm-7pm outside the Treasury (1 Horse Guards Road , London SW1A 2HQ – click link for map) will still take place. Please spread the word and attend the protest to demand a People’s Bailout – and defy police moves against demonstrations.
We will also be going ahead with our 7.30pm Question Time event with John McDonnell MP, economist Graham Turner and others in Committee Room 10, House of Commons.
Make sure you come along and exercise your right to protest.
Best wishes,
Owen Jones
Campaign Convenor
Tell them Jacqui Tits said it was alright.
Its the “war on terror” try buying a mobile phone, opening a bank account, taking a photograph. We never had this with the IRA (Well the waste bins were removed from Victoria station). Its the loss of freedoms that brave people fought for… they would weep.
perhaps they should disguise themselves as Tamils
Ian Gibson has a page on his website where he lists ‘hot issues’ and invites respondents to vote.
http://www.iangibsonmp.co.uk/hot_issues.php
He has yet to ask his constituents the following:
As we are fucked should we just let rip on public expenditure? Yes/No
Wonder why?
Hes only cocerned with ” HOT ISSUES”
+ the ‘
isn’t “hot issues” a film that someone, perhaps the husband of a home secretary, might watch on a pay-per-view channel of an adult nature?
Lets make a total break and vote in a new party for the whole of Europe, one that isnt tainted with sleaze, Vote Libertas
It’s been tried before by an Austrian with a moustache.
I do agree he couldn’t be arsed with all the hassle of voting etc but he soon found out that Russia was cold, the Channel wet, that English public schoolboys were rather good pilots and that hundreds of years of being an independent nation kind of made people independent – so they didn’t much like the thought of being in a United Europe.
Ever since that little misunderstanding over my sky invoice I havent been feeling myself lately.
124 – Brilliant
Do we need Vince to do forecasts?
Since he is going to be in the party that benefits from the “anything but Labour” vote I think the effect may be underwhelming
Might be better to sit by and watch the Labour Party tear itself apart, unless it actually does manage a coup to depose Brown
I do forecasts.
The rumours of a hurricane blowing through NuLab headquarters are exaggerated.
Yours, Michael
It started in America
so do I. It sunny today. 1012mbars. good. 12 miles. hazy in parts. ice cream cornets 99p.
Guido is ignoring the Lib Dem capacity for sleaze. Did anyone see that Newsnight feature about how masacre of Kosovan serbs was ignored? Hi I’m Paddy, How’s the Kids?! You should be ashamed of yourselves. Just because he was an MI6 agent. So was Philby for fuck’s sake!!
“We’re F****d so we might as well just let rip on public spending.” He also told Guido “what comes around, goes around”. Wonder what he meant?
Typical Labour pig – wrecking the country, slashing & burning now they have been found out.
These third way socialist bastards have always been mean & vindictive – & of course there is not a patriot amongst them.
Not even the merest hint or sense of public duty – that is Labour.
I hope they get wiped out at the General Elwection – never let us forget, or allow others to forget, exactly what life is like under any Labour Government in any epoc.
Never again.
Anyone but Labour.
but if he did do forecasts, they’d probably be the best forecasts in the World…
Your taking the Michael foot, now
Aye, it’s a’ gettin’ ne’re ma’ day fa’ ta’ budgy.
An so’ minny’s ar’ monin’ al’ridy.
But’ we’ll do’ ar’ duti’ ‘n tax tha’ alchy’ n’ faggys fra’ tha’ dirty’ b’stds!
Aye, – an’ the cars.
And arl’ tha’ money fra’ ev’body else.
But nae’ worries fa’ mae, cos’ mind ye, nuthen’s’ ma fult ye understand! An’ ma’ shill will read tha’ wordies.
[Translation : having completely fucked up the economy, people's savings, hopes, and expectations, thrown away the sound money I inherited, I'm now down to craven methods to draw in a bit of dosh, and make limp excuses for doing so.
Obviously everyone who enjoys themselves, - including traditional labour supporters - will have to be done down, - 'specially on traditional Worker's pleasures like smokes and drinkies. And of course, under the pathetic 'green' label, cars and petrol. But all this is typical of a puritanical sour faced little shit like me.
Nothing's my fault of course, - or directly attributable to me.]
I have just learn’t a new language it’s called Zanu NewLiar speak and once you get the hang of it it’s dead simple.
You actually say exactly the opposite of what you mean, for example:
“Education, Education Education” Translation – “We are gonna put you in debt for ever and encourage you to stay pissed for three years (5 if you do a PhD) and think you are clever.
“Suddam Hussein has weapons of Mass destruction” – Translation: Suddam Hussein has no weapons of Mass destruction but we are gonna shed blood anyway and get anyone in our way to commit suicide.
“We will have a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty” – Translation: Fuck off Plebs. No Chance.
“It was a silly e mail exchange between two friends”. Translation: The whole lot of us knew what was going on, wipe that disk.
“We promise fair elections” Translation: Shut the fuck up and carry on licking them stamps.
and finally
“I am sorry” Translation, “Some fucker rumbled us ”
It’s really easy once you get the hang of it.
another one from Tony Blair himself
” David Blunket leaves office with his integrity intact”
Translation ” lets just forget about him shagging another mans wife and obtaining Travel warrants at the publics expense for his mistress, who of course was another mans wife but hey…thats just Blunko ! “
no one ever mentions the dog. Dogs have feelings too.
Shouldn’t she just resign, like Quick did? Job done.
Not sure why people comment on her being “sheepish” on this – just get on with it and take yourself off home.
He looks like he has been injected with a triple dose of happy juice, by some particularly sadistic doctor, then told to read a message written by a twelve year old.
Turn the sound off and watch the lunatic contort and gurn away, its a real treat, hilarious.
The current shit we have is slippery but could turn very sticky unless we vote them out.
IMF reports that banks and finance are up the spout to the tune of 4 trillion dollars.
Guidiot won’t post about that though, because he loves the banksters and so does the Conservative Party (becasue they are one and the same).
Although it’s the taxpayer that will bail them out, no word about that either.
Oh forgot you lot only like to criticise and stigmatise widows and orphans and of course the sick alongside your pinup boy Dan Hannan.
Get ready for another good kicking in the election.
And after briefly dipping his toes in the waters of reason, the man with no morals, no conscience & no brain returns to frolic merrily on Mcmentals funny farm.
You are not even a very good troll.
“Get ready for another good kicking in the election.”
What a bizarre thing to post given the polling evidence.
Don’t honour him with responses.
He lives with his Mum, has pimples and no girlfriend and, like all teenagers, thinks it’s good fun to wind up adults
And he suffers from chronic diarrhoea.
Thank you for proving the point.
You expend every effort to stigmatise and criticise widows and orphans and of course the sick (cue Midshipman Hannan who wants to sink the HMS NHS).
But on the day the IMF announces that toxic debts held by banks and the financial sector will be USD4,000,000,000,000 (four times the estimate of 12 months ago) and that taxpayers will have to pay to stabilise the mess —– silence.
That’s because you lot love the incompetent, greedy banksters.
You’re a bunch of disgraceful dinosaurs.
The Conservative Party will be out in the cold yet again, at least you’re used to it.
Poor boy.
Seek help.
There, there now.
Guido, you naughty man. What were you thinking encouraging us all to blog here and express our views when we are all being fed so much bullshit everywhere else. What were you thinking when let us exercise our democratic rights against the mind control freaks that would have has blindly follow and as for widows, orphans and the sick, well, I’m just speechless.
PS I am not gay but I do think Hannon is rather dishy, dont you?
sad boy
He looked as though he was speaking from the depths of a bunker.
We should all have listened to that wacko Enfield all those years ago.
L is for Labour L is for Lice
“Core Labour voters stay Labour”
Are you in for a surprise.
They should clock out – for good!
O/T, cheer up everybody, at least the Prime Mentalist has found something to laugh about. Enjoy what must surely be the comedy hit of the year from 10 Downing Street
thunderbirds are go.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/3553301/smile-smile-smile.thtml
sorery, here is the link
He’s been drinking at 2:17 he clearly says Reshidence!!! That is truly hilarious, off to the bog before I wet myself.
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Look at his cold, dead eyes.
A simply awful video .
His facial expression when he utters the words “Harriet Harman” are hilarious.
OMG
SCREAMS AGAIN!: OH_MY_GOD!
What are they thinking?
That video of McMental is not funny, it is scary.
He has absolutely no charisma at all. Completely bereft of any human trace what so ever.
How could such a dalek become the PM?
Blair must watch this daily disintegration of McBust & piss his little Catholic shorts laughing.
Please watch it – & pass on the link. Everyone of voting age in the UK should see that video.
So, one of McSnotty’s cronies thought it was a good idea to release this to the general public? Just plain embarassing and proof positive that they have completely lost the plot.
Cringe – what a ghastly experience watching that was. Give it up Gordie – you’re a dyed-in-the-wool tosser and everybody knows it already – no need to “Labour” the point with utter twaddle like this
And here is the real reason he made the announcement.
Another good day for photography.
http://plato-says.blogspot.com/2009/04/why-gordon-made-that-expenses.html
Notice she’d undelined ” actual attendance” . Already wondering how to get round that one
I don’t mind Vince, and I certainly think he would have made a better leader than Clegg, but I’m not sure he’s as wonderful as everyone thinks he is. He should be given credit for the fact that he was about the only politician that publicly predicted we were heading for economic turmoil, however, many other people foresaw it aswell. I suspect there were some in the Conservatives who saw it coming (though probably not Osborne, who looks like he’s only just got his maths GCSE) but it is a lot easier to come out and predict something when you are never going to get into government (ie. the lib dems) because it doesn’t come back to haunt you.
Slightly off-topic, but it is worth observing the contrast between Guido’s very generous, free-speech loving moderation policy for Order-Order, and the increasingly nervy and tightened-up procedures evinced by other online publications.
As from today, the Indie seems to have ensured that it’s impossible to leave a comment, though one is invited to do so. Try it and see.
He tries to censor but he doesn’t succeed.
Frequently he removes comments and blocks ip’s.
Don’t be fooled.
He just doesn’t have a sign up thingy and that in order to try to flatter his stats.
His stats are worthless without a click through that results in a purchase.
He sucks at the teat of Ashcroft, Fink and Spicer — the banksters.
His moderation is based on words, say certain naughty words (like “I love Damian McBride”) and expect to wait in a moderation queue till it’s been okayed. Say something blatantly libellous and expect the post to be removed. Be totally and utterly obnoxious and expect your IP to be banned (I notice you’re still here though so I’m guessing he’s been slacking in that department lately). As for his stats, he does very well by the looks of it. My understanding is that he doesn’t actually need the advertising revenue from the blog, but when your blog is one of the biggest parts of your life you’d be pretty stupid to turn down “free” money wouldn’t you.
Wouldn’t know about the “banksters” as you say, as I’m not party to his list of friends or aquaintances.
All the above of course is just my take on it and could in fact be worth as much as approximately 10% of the UK’s supply of pound coins, ie fuck all as they’re fake
Maybe Vince doesn’t do forecasts, but I’ll give you a forecast….
Following the budget speech, the bbc will take the line:
“Jesus [otherwise known as Gordon Brown] loves you, and has saved not only our economy from those horrible americans by his magnificent economic acumen, but he’s also saved the world, and he’s now going to bestow all the needy with wondrous gifts because everything’s now all wonderful in the uk economy.”
“Lord snooty wants to fire all the nurses and tax your grandmother to death”
“There is no deficit.”
“Efficiency savings of £15billion is all real”
“There’s no double-counting or fraud going on in any of Jesus’ figures; it’s all above board and he’s not obfuscating/hiding/lying at all”
“Move along…nothing to see here”
I won’t be watching the BBC following the budget; it’s just too infuriating to see their open bias in action on something so monumental as 2 trillion pounds of debt of our money and the biggest depression we’ve ever had, and it makes me want to kick the shit out of my telly.
Know how you feel. I remember Tony Hancock in one of his shows threw a tomato sauce bottle at the TV in anger. The bottle remained sticking out of the middle to the smashed TV screen for the rest of the show. Did I not larff!
I hope your not funded your enemy?
I hope you don’t pay the TV-Tax.
Almost right
“Lord Snooty wants to tax all the nurses and set fire to your granny”
Stephen Pound R5 ‘It was the conservatives!’
You know what happened to Jesus!
yes; I saw that film too; he died in the end (sorry to give it away)
I understand that the BBC are making a sequel though, it’s called:
“Jesus II – The Scottish Incarnation”
and has a tagline of:
“First he saved us from satan and eternal damnation. Now he needs to save us from the Americans and the Evil Lord Snooty.”
I am just trying to get head around some of Browns numbers
It appears it would take Tesco more than 1350 years to pay the cost of Brown’s Global banking sector bail out
as we are told £1 in every £8 spent in the UK is spent at Tesco that is somewhat frightening
I can’t remember who it was, but a tory MP explained it well.
He said just for a single year the equivalent proportions are roughly like someone earning 30grand a year spending 40grand a year, and then doing that continually for 12 years.
At the end of the 12 years you end up with 120grand of debt, but you still only earn 30grand a year, and even that’s starting to fall because your employer has realised you’re a blithering twat and is going to fire you. At that stage you go bankrupt and/or kill yourself.
However you look at it, it’s a fuck-load of money, the mess labour left in the 70′s is proportionally peanuts compared to what they’ve done this time.
Well, it’s certainly true that the economy is in a bigger mess than it was the last time Labour were in power. Somehow I doubt Darling will do anything to put the finances in better shape. Most likely he will begin the process of electioneering.
Fugu
You just don’t get basic economics.
If you borrowed £7 per week you could spend £8 per week at Tesco’s and then it would only take 168 years. If that’s still too long in your view, borrow even more.
See, it really is that simple, particularly when you won’t be around when the bailiffs call
You have that wrong, you haven’t considered the club card points…
You have that wrong, don’t forget your clubcard points!!!
How many Tescos do we need to even service the debt?
Or divide the Government’s overspend of £150bn in the coming year by the number of jobs in the economy £150bn(and rising) divided by 32,000,000 (and falling)
Passing through £90 per week for each worker. They deserve all the abuse they are getting. I’d leave Tesco out of it
150billion overspend in one year, and they want to save 15billion in efficiency savings over many years to help make up for it?
that’s like going to your bank and saying “I’m sorry I’ve been spending 100grand every year even though I only earn 10grand a year; I’ll ponder my circumstances and maybe bring my spending down to an average of 90grand sometime in the next 5 years” – your bank would take away your house and tell you to fuck off.
anon the banks gonna take your home anyway so why wait
£7142.85 amount every full time worker has to pay for Gordon Brown’s billions overspend next year – that is just for the overspend
Brown needs help
Gordon Brown is a Hoon
have you seen
http://www.usagold.com/amk/abcs-gold-rally-indicator.html
about the Gordon Brown vs. Gold relationship that is being promoted in Denver
Yes but if he keeps saying sell, one day he’ll be right…..and boast about it ad nauseum
Tory Central Office….Save this one for the Campaign.
OMG!
Dysfunctional doesn’t even start to cover it…
http://playpolitical.typepad.com/labour_party/2009/04/gordon-brown-says-that-the-system-of-mpss-expenses-and-allowances-must-be-tightened-up-urgently-and-.html
His face, his mouth, his movements etc…
For god sake give the man some botox — and lots of it!
OT:
OMG Dysfunctional doesn’t start to cover it….
http://playpolitical.typepad.com/labour_party/2009/04/gordon-brown-says-that-the-system-of-mpss-expenses-and-allowances-must-be-tightened-up-urgently-and-.html
Botox – NOW!
Interesting about King Snot Gobbler’s latest wheeze regarding attendance being linked to expenses for MP’s…..
I know DC (through gritted teeth) has agreed in principle, but young scamp Cleggwothisname is “unhappy”.Judging by the average attendance on the Fib Dem benches ‘King Brown has wrong footed them.
And I wonder why?
Lets look at chief cheer leader- Prince Norman Baker, ruler of Lewes, and is hoping to be the first leader of the Peoples Republic of East Sussex:
-Has voted in 60% of votes in parliament with this affiliation — below average amongst MPs.
-However he “writes” loads of letters (at your and mine expence) which could be written by a 17 year old (and believe me they look as though they have)
Of course “our Norm” is too busy pointing out the other “snouts in the trough” to notice that he himself was wrapped over the knuckles over using taxpayers money for Fib Dem propaganda, while reciving under the “INCIDENTIAL EXPENCE PROVISION” to the grand sum of £24,993, the 54th highest (out of 645) while last year he recived £29,536 which was the 6th highest!
He is certainly in the top half of those who are on the gravy train.
It would be easy to say he is a busy lad-but he is not on any select commitees and if he is a front bencher (he isn’t, he is too busy), he seems to spend most of his time talking about other things outside his brief.
Instead he seems to be spending more time in India,Australia or the Volksuniversitie in Sweden on jollies. Still he need no worry about him being pennyless, his income because when not being John Le Carre he is lecturing Civil Servents….
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/norman_baker/lewes
Oink Oink…..
” On” the gravy train…..they’re all sodin driving it.
They’ll now turn up, sign on and then bugger off home immediately to post their invoices to The Mother of Parliaments.
Does all this mean that Brown will now be paying for his own Sky TV package?
Hi Guido,
Sorry that we could not talk at the policy “do” last night. because of your temporary indisposition.
Anyway, in case you did not recognise me, a pen picture offered by a previous contributor may jog your sozzled memory box hwen we meet again.
” if he had a head like a fat toad and skin texture to match, it was Alex Belardinelli Ed Balls media and PLP drongo, who also worked for the now infamous, Tom Watson MP in 2005. Funny how since working for Ed, Belardinelli has adopted the same hairdo, blinking habits and superior, scheming tone of his master?”
Quite flattering and prescient.
Toodle pip!
for the 15billion “savings”, note that the key word here that labour is using is:
“pledged”, and it’s also double-counted several times.
ie it’s just a hope, it’s not a commitment, and it’s not all new anyway, only 10 of it’s new.
Anyway, if it’s anything like the rest of their “efficiency” drives, it’ll end up costing 50billion to save that 15billion, and end up giving us a net loss of 35billion purely due to the negligence of useless labour staff trying to be “efficient” but not understanding basic maths.
think you’ve already answered your own question, Guido…
bollox
Nothing to see here. Move along.
==FINANCIAL LINE == DO NOT CROSS == FINANCIAL LINE == DO NOT CROSS ==
Vince is a waster, ex Trot, ex Labour councillor and has the minimum grasp of how to resolve the financial crisis. He’s marking time in the hope that the Great Slug will notice his brown nose and give him a leg up to the Lords.
Completely Useless Nancy Trot.
I posted this on a IoD Linked In discussion when they were raving about his foresight, predictions and forthcoming appearance at an IoD dinner in Manchester.
Dr Cable is a good chap. And he is certainly the strongest performer that the Lib Dems have. But lets not go overboard. He does enjoy 20/20 hindisght. What we need is politicians with 20/20 foresight.
The Right Hon. Peter Lilley) was shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer in November 1997. In the debate on the Second Reading of the Bank of England Bill on 11 November 1997, he said:
• “With the removal of banking control to the Financial Services Authority…it is difficult to see how and whether the Bank remains, as it surely must, responsible for ensuring the liquidity of the banking system and preventing systemic collapse.”
He went on to say:
• “The coverage of the FSA will be huge; its objectives will be many, and potentially in conflict with one another. The range of its activities will be so diverse that no one person in it will understand them all.”
He also said:
• “that the Government may, almost casually, have bitten off more than they can chew. The process of setting up the FSA may cause regulators to take their eye off the ball, while spivs and crooks have a field day.”—[ Official Report, 11 November 1997; Vol. 300, c. 731-32.]
The warning was there; it was clear; it was on the record; and the foresight was perfect. 12 years ago.
Michael Howard also warned about our level of indebtedness as a country and as individuals.
On 9 July 2002 when he was shadow Chancellor re: the savings ratio.
On 30 July 2003, Howard warned that savings had halved under Labour, that the Government were borrowing more and that families were getting deeper in debt.
On 17 March 2004, replying to the Budget, Howard said that it was
• “a credit-card Budget from a credit-card Chancellor”—[ Official Report, 17 March 2004; Vol. 419, c. 337.]
Howard proposed at the 2005 election that a Conservative Government would make £12 billion of savings, and said that £8 billion of them would go not to cut taxes but to reduce Government borrowing, which was far too high.
Dr Cable is, as I said earlier, a good chap. And his comment re: Mr Bean was a classic. But he is no prophet.
That said, I am sure you will have an entertaining evening. I would definitely go if it was closer. But to listen to an entertaining and charming speaker – with a great sense of humour. But not to a prophet.
I read the news today on boy………….. the media is obsessed with trying to second guess tomorrows budget. If you predict enough things then it is like backing every horse in a race then claiming to have picked the winner.
The reality is that we are opening a deposit account to attempt to save regularly whilst having a huge credit card bill at 39% interest. That doesn’t make sense well neither will tomorrow as Mr Darling moves the financial deckchairs around the deck of our very own Titanic i.e. the economy.
A tweak here a twist there. Is the patient sitting comfortably.
We are going to have to pay more for less. More tax less services.
Problems that were not addressed in the good times do not stand much chance of being sorted now but the illusion will be given that one budget can sort a decade of neglect.
I won’t mind reading it because I like science fiction, parables and fables and this will have an element of each.
The only thing you need to know about tomorrow’s budget is that it will be TAX & SPEND.
Everything else is immaterial.
Do you really think the Tory Boys have anything else to offer?
Dave (I’ve never had a proper job), Boy (I would like to have had a job), Alan (the bag man did at least do some sort of work), do you want me to continue? haven’t got a friggin clue.
God save us.
Do you really think the Tory Boys have anything else to offer?
Funny this but I actually do. After seeing what this shower have accomplished ( The 1st 3rd world country in Europe) I think they will be very mindful that those that are interested in this Nation (i.e Us) will be watching their every move very carefully, and that in itself will lead to restrained policies designed to improve our quality of life and freedoms. Call me niave but I honestly think this last two weeks have changed the political landscape forever.
The new administration will not have to try very hard. The wanton waste in our Public Services will save billions, the restoration of our Civil Liberties will restore a sense of well being and the abolision/modification of the ‘uman rights act will work wonders with the electorate. The reigning in of dictatorial councils will help as will the reconstruction of our benefits system to reward effort rather than failure. The closing of open borders will curry favour as will the reduction of non jobs advertised in the Gruniad. The bringing onside of the Police will further the cause.
So Niave as I am I would ask you to get with the programme, Knobhead.
At least they have three brain cells between them
We can’t be any worse off. We might be better off
If we get another 4/5 years of the same, half the country will blow its brains out
- and that will be the thinking half
Canary Wharf Rat….You are correct, and I hear you on some of your points, but where the hell have the Tory Boyz been? Their job is to OPPOSE the Govt. Why oh why are they so inept at their job in opposing all that you correctly highlight.
Knobhead? How utterly tragic. Grow up.
It was a dumb remark and I apologise. It was late and my glass was empty. No excuse but there you are. Where have they been? My Nan used to say ’tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool rather than open your mouth and prove you are one. I’ll heed that as I have no answer.
I read the news today on boy………….. the media is obsessed with trying to second guess tomorrows budget. If you predict enough things then it is like backing every horse in a race then claiming to have picked the winner.
The reality is that we are opening a deposit account to attempt to save regularly whilst having a huge credit card bill at 39% interest. That doesn’t make sense well neither will tomorrow as Mr darling moves the financoal deckchairs around the deck of our very own Titanic i.e. the economy.
A tweak here a twist there. Is the patien sitting comfortably.
We are going to have to pay more for less. More tax less services.
Problems that were not addressed in the good times do not stand much chance of being sorted now but the illusion will be given that one budget can sort a decade of neglect.
I won’t mind reading it because I like science fiction, parables and fables and this will have an element of each.
Will it be browns or darlings budget, the answer will lie in the small print.
Those two it sounds like the Brothers Grimm……
More like William Wallace and Stephen in Braveheart:
Gordon “Braveheart” Brown: What does your god tell you about this budget?
Ian “Mad Irish Bastard” Gibson: I’ll be okay, but you’re fucked!
Will it be Waldorf or Stadler budget? We saw Miss Piggy yesterday trying to frighten us all with a new imminent terrorist threat (Bath plug thieves about.)
When Brown was Chancellor the PM never got a shufti at the Budget.
Apparently – allegedly! – he has seen tomorrow’s – ie. it’s not Darling’s – it’s not Balls’ -
- it’s Browns! AGAIN!! No wonder we are dans le merde
I see that Harperson has been ploughing her own furrow.
http://news.scotsman.com/politics/Harman-breaks-ranks–to.5187822.jp