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		<title>By: Póló</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/21/copy-taking-culprit/#comment-49971</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Póló]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That explains it, then.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That explains it, then.</p>
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		<title>By: tom mauchline</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/21/copy-taking-culprit/#comment-48039</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tom mauchline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i just read this on pop bitch
i know its a lil out of date but i thought it was illuminating

       Labour&#039;s smear scandal and the President

   The News of the World landed the McBride-
   Draper Tory smear email story so it was weird to
   see on Sunday they didn&#039;t run with it on the
   front page. Instead the tabloid had a
   bizarre headline, &quot;Obama&#039;s brother in sex quiz&quot;,
   which sounds like something Jacqui Smith&#039;s
   husband would watch on TV, but was in reality
   a random story about Obama&#039;s half-brother being
   refused a visa to enter Britain.

   Even more weirdly, the story was not written
   by a NOTW journalist but bylined Gloria De Piero,
   GMTV&#039;s Political Editor. De Piero is a close
   friend of Derek Draper, a colleague of his
   wife Kate Garraway, and an ex-flatmate of Damien
   McBride&#039;s then-boss Tom Watson.

   So, surely a coincidence that this was the front page
   story? Otherwise I guess we&#039;d have to assume that
   the uncalled for and unnecessary smearing of the
   family and reputation of the world&#039;s most popular
   politician is acceptable to the Labour Party now?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just read this on pop bitch<br />
i know its a lil out of date but i thought it was illuminating</p>
<p>       Labour&#8217;s smear scandal and the President</p>
<p>   The News of the World landed the McBride-<br />
   Draper Tory smear email story so it was weird to<br />
   see on Sunday they didn&#8217;t run with it on the<br />
   front page. Instead the tabloid had a<br />
   bizarre headline, &#8220;Obama&#8217;s brother in sex quiz&#8221;,<br />
   which sounds like something Jacqui Smith&#8217;s<br />
   husband would watch on TV, but was in reality<br />
   a random story about Obama&#8217;s half-brother being<br />
   refused a visa to enter Britain.</p>
<p>   Even more weirdly, the story was not written<br />
   by a NOTW journalist but bylined Gloria De Piero,<br />
   GMTV&#8217;s Political Editor. De Piero is a close<br />
   friend of Derek Draper, a colleague of his<br />
   wife Kate Garraway, and an ex-flatmate of Damien<br />
   McBride&#8217;s then-boss Tom Watson.</p>
<p>   So, surely a coincidence that this was the front page<br />
   story? Otherwise I guess we&#8217;d have to assume that<br />
   the uncalled for and unnecessary smearing of the<br />
   family and reputation of the world&#8217;s most popular<br />
   politician is acceptable to the Labour Party now?</p>
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		<title>By: Cheer up</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/21/copy-taking-culprit/#comment-47635</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cheer up]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saving those for the shredder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saving those for the shredder.</p>
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		<title>By: anon126</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/21/copy-taking-culprit/#comment-47529</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anon126]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guido will never get his answer. They&#039;ll tell him that it will cost too much (though how expensive to get an assistant to explore an email history on a server?). You see they think they are above the law, and to be fair to them, they get away with fiddling expenses so they might have a point.

The only way Guido could get the info, in my opinion at least, is to sue for libel. This would allow all emails to be explored under threat of contempt of court....but that would never happen as because of expense....so labour get away with it again.

shame though]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guido will never get his answer. They&#8217;ll tell him that it will cost too much (though how expensive to get an assistant to explore an email history on a server?). You see they think they are above the law, and to be fair to them, they get away with fiddling expenses so they might have a point.</p>
<p>The only way Guido could get the info, in my opinion at least, is to sue for libel. This would allow all emails to be explored under threat of contempt of court&#8230;.but that would never happen as because of expense&#8230;.so labour get away with it again.</p>
<p>shame though</p>
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		<title>By: Sunday Morning</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/21/copy-taking-culprit/#comment-47523</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sunday Morning]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spin existed before 1997.  Who can forget that unbelieveable decision by the BBC to lead their main news bulletin with a speech made by a Leader of the Oppositon (as Blair was then) to his party when just about every other news organisation in the world was leading on the acquittal of OJ Simpson?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spin existed before 1997.  Who can forget that unbelieveable decision by the BBC to lead their main news bulletin with a speech made by a Leader of the Oppositon (as Blair was then) to his party when just about every other news organisation in the world was leading on the acquittal of OJ Simpson?</p>
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		<title>By: Cheer up</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/21/copy-taking-culprit/#comment-47477</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cheer up]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today&#039;s word is LIQUIDITY.

Definition:

Liquidity - when you look at your retirement funds and wet your pants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s word is LIQUIDITY.</p>
<p>Definition:</p>
<p>Liquidity &#8211; when you look at your retirement funds and wet your pants.</p>
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		<title>By: Avigdor Lieberwoman</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/21/copy-taking-culprit/#comment-47469</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Avigdor Lieberwoman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Racist? Me?
Sexist pig? Me?
Warmonger? Me?
Yes on all three counts.  You got me!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racist? Me?<br />
Sexist pig? Me?<br />
Warmonger? Me?<br />
Yes on all three counts.  You got me!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/21/copy-taking-culprit/#comment-47452</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love it!

Can&#039;t we do it as &#039;Mandleson&#039;s Balls&#039;..please?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it!</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t we do it as &#8216;Mandleson&#8217;s Balls&#8217;..please?</p>
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		<title>By: It doesn't add up...</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/21/copy-taking-culprit/#comment-47390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It doesn't add up...]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quick&#039;s briefing note that he showed to Downing Street photographers had a prominent item about Media Strategy on page 1.  This was indeed all about deflecting from bad news.  You may recall that, despite the need to suddenly advance the arrests, TV cameras managed to be in attendance to provide footage to occupy the newsreels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick&#8217;s briefing note that he showed to Downing Street photographers had a prominent item about Media Strategy on page 1.  This was indeed all about deflecting from bad news.  You may recall that, despite the need to suddenly advance the arrests, TV cameras managed to be in attendance to provide footage to occupy the newsreels.</p>
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		<title>By: It doesn't add up...</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/21/copy-taking-culprit/#comment-47380</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[It doesn't add up...]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suspect that they were indulging in &quot;activities incompatible with their status&quot; - a well worn phrase in the case of alleged diplomatic spies, but in this case, it means being a shelf stacker (i.e. economic migrant) while on a student visa, and not attending a proper course of study.  Of course, many of them probably shouldn&#039;t have been granted visas in the first place if the government had its act together over bogus educational establishments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that they were indulging in &#8220;activities incompatible with their status&#8221; &#8211; a well worn phrase in the case of alleged diplomatic spies, but in this case, it means being a shelf stacker (i.e. economic migrant) while on a student visa, and not attending a proper course of study.  Of course, many of them probably shouldn&#8217;t have been granted visas in the first place if the government had its act together over bogus educational establishments.</p>
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