+++ BACP Crisis Meeting Over Draper +++
The British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy is having a crisis meeting tomorrow (Wednesday) to discuss the continuing associate membership of Derek Draper. No one was available for comment when Guido called to contact the BACP. It is hard to see how someone who thought it “absolutely brilliant” to use mental health issues as a means of political attack can remain a member. It is hardly compatible with the high ethical standards required by the BACP.
The BACP can not say it had not been warned. Complaints had already been made to the association over his misrepresentation (in Berkeley, not at Berkeley) of his credentials. The BACP Ethical Framework [PDF] insists that
Particular care should be taken over the integrity of presenting qualifications, accreditation and professional standing.
Guido revealed last month that he had been expelled from the Wright Institute before completing the course of study. This second subject of concern makes it impossible for him to continue. Guido understands that the original complaints were rejected by the BACP on the grounds that they “politically motivated” and did not come from clients or other members of the association.
Guido has been unable to confirm if formal written complaints have been made by disgusted psychotherapists who fear he is bringing psychotherapy into disrepute. BACP committee members themselves are said to be concerned. The Wednesday meeting is likely to be a precursor to a formal Professional Conduct Hearing.
Derek has shown a complete misunderstanding of the psychology behind blogging here
Retraining is the order of the day!
He is a disgrace to his profession.
You’ve been doing some most excellent articles of late, Anna. Loving the accompanying pics too.
retraining – he wouldn’t turn up or would claim he’s been already :0)
Bringing snake oil salesmen into disrepute – it should be a crime!
He’s just a disgrace. Never mind, if she hasn’t chucked him out yet Kate will look after him… perhaps.
Wonder what it’s like being married to a dysfunctional liability… She could always interview the long suffering Mrs Brown on that very subject for the benefit of GMTV viewers.
The photograph of Ms. Garraway and her other half with the lifebelt has a caption that sums him up perfectly.
Hoons the lot of them.
Best username award to you, my friend!
Re-training implies there has already been training. Surely if you get thrown off part-way through a course that is not a full and proper training. Can you imagine a brain surgeon being partially trained? “Fuck me, Nurse, I never did that part of the syllabus, what should I do now?”
“Guido revealed last month that he had been expelled from the Wright Institute before completing the course of study.”
So you have been expelled also Guido. Tough place this Wright Institute, very strict.
What does the lovely Kate see in this twat!!!??
But surely “retraining” implies he has already been “trained”, and qualified. Being “expelled” from one’s institute of education does not count as a “qualification” in my book and deliberately obscuring the location/status of one’s academic body borders upon fraudulent misrepresentation as well in my opinion.
I believe the noble and fragrant Lord Archer played this game too, claiming to have “been at Oxford”, and we all know how he ended up!
Only one thing which intrigues me. What was the underlying reason for the “expulsion”? Come on Guido with your skills and experience surely you can tease out this tasty little morsel.
He’s a disgrace to his species!
Leave man-child Draper alone. It is Garraway you should be targeting. After all, doesn’t having sex with someone who has not reached puberty constitute child abuse?
He’s a bastard that Draper
He is a lucky bastard, wouldn’t mind banging Miss Garraway
He’s probably got dirt on her.
Nothing else explains their relationship.
You’re on your own mate. I wouldn’t touch anything that’s had Dolly Draper’s cock inside it.
Well atleast you can still visit Berkeley one day.
Lets get this straight even if an accusation might have substance it can’t be investigated if there’s any hint of a political motive. Gawd what a stitch up
Hmmm true, I just reasoned he was hung like a mouse so it probably didn’t get very far.
If think about it, lying about qualifications and universities he attended then attempting to throw his weight around in the Labour party, he must be over compensating for something.
I can imagine that the next revelation we hear about Dolly will be that with all these loans from his “pals” he bought a big red Ferrari!!!
I am a highly qualified professional in an allied profession, and have made a formal complaint to the bacp. let’s hope I am not alone in voicing my concerns. He really gives the professions a bad name.
‘Politically motivated’? They should still have investigated, it was a point of fact. BACP have left themselves wide open to critiscism.
Sounds to me they were intimidated by the “no 10″ tag ie did not have the courage of the conviction of their own policies and bye laws.
Corruption is far deeper seated in society tan one can even begin to suspect.
papasmurf wrote: “Corruption is far deeper seated in society tan one can even begin to suspect.”
How do you know ?
Because philmil I am dealing with a grievance in a corrupt NHS Trust and the parallels with the spin that I see here are palpable. Also I have other examples of this, but reluctant to tell you on a publically viewed site.
Papasmurf, we know what you mean but the statement:
“Corruption is far deeper seated in society tan one can even begin to suspect”
is self negating. How do you know something if you can’t begin to suspect it? I suggest you READ WHAT YOU WRITE, as the saying goes, before hitting the “Submit Comment” button. Otherwise you come over as hysterical, illiterate, or just plain stupid.
No, Bildad, you come across as anally retentive and pedantic.
Actually they haven’t. If someone does supply the required documentation to prove that he/she does indeed hold a postgraduate qualification then BACP are not going to dig too deeply, as one would expect from any professional organisation. If every professional body started full background checks on its members then the RICS, for one, wouldn’t have any members at all
Unfortunately Draper misled the Tavistock Clinic and thus the BACP to place himself into a position where he could be in the supervision of someone in a frail mental state, which is a totally unacceptable thing for him to have done. I know that psychotherapists and psychologists are mandated to undergo therapy themselves and I would just like to know if Draper is still undergoing this therapy.
Fow what would Draper be undergoing therapy?
A narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) perhaps??
NPD is characterised by a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is “special”
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement
6. is interpersonally exploitative
7. lacks empathy
8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
In what way specifically ‘”misled the Tavistock” – did he practise there or obtain more ‘training’ there?
He had training at the Tavistock Clinic, based upon his “Berkeley” PostGrad degree. As a part of becoming qualified as a psychotherapist you must undergo a significant amount of therapy yourself as well as possess sufficient and, above all, PROVABLE degree qualifications (very, very important).
Its worth noting that the Tavistock is allied with the Portman Clinic, of Michael Glasser fame. For those not acquainted, Glasser pioneered not only the modern method of dealing with severe addictions (his clinic in Somerset is very famous) but also a means of treating severe sexual and psychotically deranged criminals.
Just hope Derek hasn’t taken on any of THOSE clients. Would hate to hear of Kate being stalked by any of those …
While Draper is undoubtedly a buffoon, and part of a very sleazy project, he strikes me as more pathetic than evil. Having much enjoyed his discomfiture at the hands of Guido, I am beginning to feel a bit uncomfortable at the the continuing destruction of the man to the point of exulting over his likely inability to earn any kind of a living. Maybe time to shift target? God knows, there are plenty out there to attack.
Goodness me, no.
This would miss out on most of the FUN!
I agree. the man must be crushed out of existence. That hopefully will be a precursor to the fate of all the other socialist excrement who have created such as rotten state over the past 12 or more years. Show Draper and the rest no mercy. They never showed any to their victims.
Yes crush the Socialist scum.
Kick the fucker while he’s down. Let him be a warning to others.
Tend to agree — taking pot-shots at Draper and the JamRag blog-gate affair is like shooting ducks in a barrel. Draper’s now a has-been and the JamRag will never get going — too discredited.
Need to get stuck into the HomeSec and see if the Mandelson can be made to hit the fan there.
I’ll be walking the dog on Wimbledon common between 7 and 8pm if you want to find me Tetent.
Last time a saw you Mandy it was in Regents Park, Wimibledon Common is so … well common really, Regents Park is for Lordhips isn’t it?
Don’t kid yourself. We thought Mandy was a has been (twice) & look at him now. Dolly will still be involved with NL it’s just that the meetings will be even more clandestine
You never know he may even be elevated (if that’s now the correct term to use) to the Lords
Whats the point of going for multi-disgraced Mandy? Hes the turd you just can’t flush away – the heart of new labour, right through his playtime in Europe, his “Lordship”, the lot.
a bit off topic I know, but if I was contributing to Labourlist I’d be sh****g meself. Check out the comments to recent Mandy and Balls inputs.
Airey, you’ve taken the moral high road here but draper is and always will be in the gutter.
Would dolly have given a monkeys if he had succeeded in destroyed his smear target’s lives? I think he would danced on their political and career graves and then used the kudos achieved in the labour party to better himself so he deserves exactly whats coming to him.
No. If Draper is practicing psychotherapy without the requisite qualifications, he must be removed immediately. It is a public health issue.
It is also alarming that he sought to leak false, damaging information about the mental health of an innocent woman… BTW, for political reasons.
Isn’t it illegal to practice in certain professions if you don’t have the requisite professional qualifications? I know they were talking about such requirements being brought in for accountants, and they already apply for lawyers and doctors, so it wouldn’t be beyond the pale to imagine the same is true for psychotherapists
Can you imagine anyone embarking in a therapeutic relationship with Draper? Alright it looks like the BACP have been ‘hoodwinked’,but at least they are trying to address their mistake.If Draper has a client list in therapy at the moment then those affected will be seeking advice and basically running for the door.Except poor Kate!
D. Draper BA (Kilburn University) – failed
The likes of Draper are bottom feeders – he will hover up whatever scraps are around, and manage to survive in the nether regions.
gone from the inner sanctum but alive and well in the outer rectum
He could write crap novels. Might make millions.
Or he could go to teacher training college in oxford.
NuArcher
Nice analogy!
In Oxford, or At Oxford?
Not at all.
Ethics in the profession he claims to practise, are as critical as they are in any health or other profession.
He dug his own grave and deserves to be buried in it along with all the witches in McBruin’s cove.
These people are in power for God’s sake. They are destroying the nation.
“Out damned spots”.
I agree – although Draper is a prime arsehole, and has undoubtedly been brought down by his own arrogance and hubris, it is probably time for him to be left to fester in his soiled clothes in the gutter. He appears likely to have lost both his jobs and is now too easy a target, holed below the waterline and listing heavily to starboard. He just presents a pathetic figure nowadays.
Perhaps Guido might ease off until the daft bastard tries to pop his head over the parapet again, perhaps with a tv appearance. Mind you, he is vainglorious enough to think he could mount a comeback. That would be the appropriate time to resurrect Guido’s (entirely appropriate to date) campaign. Just keep garnering the ammunition.
Just how many chances do you think is fair? This guy is damaged goods FCS!!
To continue with the metaphor… what if the bugger makes it back to port, gets repaired and puts to sea again.
Couple more torpedoes and machine gun the lifeboats. It’s the only way to be sure.
I thought I covered that Dr Feelgood, with a different metaphor about parapets. If he shows up in public, other than to spill all that he knows, ALL, Guido should give him both barrels, to quote another metaphor.
I disagree. He brought this on himself. Nobody forced him to partake in a smear campaign and he always had the option of not misrepresenting his professional qualifications. As a psychotherapist he is dealing with vulnerable people, remember.
Would you trust an unqualified quack with your mental well being?
The trouble with Draper is that he wants to be one of the big boys, like his mate Mandelson. A smooth operator, basking in the media spotlight. But he isn’t qualified for that role, either.
A random thought occurs, was his role as a putative blogger, and NuSleazeLab attack dog merely a cover. Maybe his real role in the closed inner circle was to act as the medical councillor and advisor in the treatment and management of our “Greatest Leader of all time – AKA “The Scottish Scunner”. After all where did the idea that the Tory Leader might have an embarrassing ailment come from, and having a good example closer to home would have been a good source of inspiration, even if the latter’s problem seems to be one of a mental deficiency.!
Can’t agree.
All this could be avoided if Draper had behaved properly, and, realising he’d been caught out, resigned. Any further unpleasantness is entirely of his own making.
The same applies to Jacqui Smith. And McNulti. And about 600 other lowlifes.
A humane kill, hallal if needs be, then and lets move on
He’s just cannon fodder for the Labour top brass. They see someone who is eager to have friends and use him – its not his fault that he is incapable of forming a coherent argument that doesn’t resort to school yard name calling. Of course, it doesn’t help the fact that he’s a compulsive liar – and not a very good one at that.
Hence, once he gets himself into trouble then the Party can just drop him and bring in the next eager plonker willing to do it again.
Yes Concentrate on others, not me.
Like the name, Airey, but you’re SOOOOOOO out-of-date!
Perhaps we are related through the Essex Belvoirs- do you by any chance know my cousin, Justin Cyder-Belvoir?
If he was something like an architect or a surveyor or worked in a little back office I would agree with you. However, through that job he is setting himself up as a guide & mentor to vulnerable & emotionally troubled people – the very people he is prepared to exploit for his own political ends (ref smear on Mrs Osborne). I think the acid test is, if someone in your family had mental health problems would you want DD to be their therapist? I certainly wouldn’t. He has, unfortunately, demonstrated on live TV that you can’t believe a word out of his mouth – he is either a complete & utter liar or a fantasist – not someone who should be dealing with the fragile & troubled. Reading his blogs on Labourlost – whew – rinse you eyes out afterwards! He can always get a job doing something – just not pyschotherapy.
Our local turkey abbatoir are always hiring – they’re not fussy.
no, fuck him, grind the bastard into the dirt.
The abbatoir might not be fussy but the Turkeys are. Turkeys have standards even death and Derek does not meet them.
I had felt a degree of sympathy for Draper, and the world of shit he found himself in, until I saw him shouting Guido down in that Politics Show interview. The guy is obviously a complete and utter toilet.
Agree it was the performance of a desperate man. Tried everything Guido’s bankruptcy etc. Neil told him to stop answering the question BEFORE he’d asked them & also told him at one point to shut up as the show was not a party political broadcast for labour
The only criticism Neil had was about the language on this site & other than that now’t
Guido did well to keep his cool me I’d have thumped the scumbag
Wonder when Kate will dump him poor cow
Not “toilet”, rather prefer “HOON!!!”
I’m not someone who would normally quote Neil Kinnock but if you watched him on AM this Sunday: “if you live by the sword you die by the sword” even Labour folk have no time for these people.
I would also ask if you would be complaining if he were a qualified lawyer or accountant who was committing fraud and someone complained to their professional body causing them to be struck off? He was engaging in the equivalent.
It may ruin his life but he was planning to attack (even if he didn’t write the exact text) the family members of opposition politicians, you may hate George Osborne but to attack his wife to with vicious lies is unforgivable. Imagine the damage these stories would have done (and to a certain extent have done as the stories have still been printed in part, Wheelan trying to imply they is some truth).
Dolly deserves to be ruined; only with the full humiliation and destruction of his life in this way will Gordon Brown’s poison machine think twice about their actions.
McBride’s actions were undoubtedly “misconduct in a public office” but the Police won’t investigate.
Waqui Jaqui’s department (lying while) complaining to the police was undoubtedly “wasting police time” but no one will investigate.
If Dolly gets a public flogging by media then it will be better for everyone as the government have made themselves above the law. It is the only deterrent that we have to this behaviour by our own government.
Airey Belvoir
Good point you make there and it is. I would tend to agree with you the problem is he has joined a professional body that seeks to uphold high standards. This is the whole point of such a body and is for the benefit of all most importantly your ‘customers’ can see such standards are upheld.
I am also a member of a different body but those that also seek to uphold the highest of standards. Do we? I would like to think so but of course maybe we also have ‘rotten apples’
Draper though has transcended any sympathy by purporting to be what he obviously is not or at least it is questionable. In fact I think we can use the same description of draper as was unfairly and outrageously labelled against a certain walker in the woods.
Draper is a ‘Walter Mitty character personified’ and a “catch me if you can” type character.
He should be removed. Perhaps I should have some sympathey but I do not whatsoever.
No, he’s a scumbag…
I’m of the “keep jabbing him with a pitchfork until all signs of life are expunged, and then burn the corpse just to be sure” school of thought. Looking at it from Guido’s point of view, what ‘mercy’ do you think Draper and his chums would have meted out if the boot had been on the other foot? Sure, there are other people involved who are slightly more evil than him and a lot less stupid. By all means let’s get them too, but they can only operate with the help of useful idiots like him.
And in what sense is he being rendered unable to earn ‘any kind of a living’? Does he have some god-given right to wealth. privilege and influence? He can get himself a job in a call-centre, or stacking shelves, or driving a mini-cab, like lots of other people have to do to ‘earn a living’. Or claim job-seeker’s allowance, like millions of other people are going to have to do thanks to the politics he espouses.
He’ll set up a Reiki healing and Crystal Aromatherapy shop in a deserted mid Wales village on an EU grant. I just KNOW it. Every other failed English socialist bastard has.
Old Holborn isn’t too far wrong
“He’ll set up a Reiki healing and Crystal Aromatherapy shop in a deserted mid Wales village on an EU grant. I just KNOW it. Every other failed English socialist bastard has”
Take a look at http://www.mindbodyspirit.co.uk/london/presenters.php
“Derek Draper
Life Support – A Survival Guide for the Modern Soul
Do you want to end the cycles that keep pulling you into pain, fear and disappointment? Would you like to make real and lasting change in your life? Award winning therapist Derek teaches you therapy tools that really work. He shares his methods to help you to gain deeper self-awareness shifting your life towards greater happiness.”
Twelve quid a ticket, Monday 20th May, 1430-1630
I shall not be content until I read the following news report:
“As Derek Draper awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself transformed in his bed into a gigantic insect. He was lying on his hard, as it were armour-plated, back and when he lifted his head a little he could see his dome-like brown belly divided into stiff arched segments on top of which the bed-quilt could hardly keep in position and was about to slide off completely. His numerous legs, which were pitifully thin compared to the rest of his bulk, waved helplessly before his eyes.
“What has happened to me? he thought. It was no dream …”
The whole of NuLabour is Kafkasque.
And then came a spider who sat down beside her and frightened poor Garroway away, whahey!!!
You are David Lynch and I claim my £5!
ay, he’s pretty much destroyed politcally and professionally now? let the BACP complete their process, but move on. plenty of other despicable characters to shoot at.
The alternative is to leave the mentally disadvantaged to the mind-games and manipulations of a sleaze-bag like this…
The mentally disadvantaged being the most vulnerable in adult society, ignoring the geriatric…. assuming I’m allowed to say that in this PC obsessed world!
Get him removed from where he can harm others who don’t have the capacity to fight back. My other half is a psychologist – and I can state the mentally vulnerable are exactly that.
This case : have no pity!
While Draper is undoubtedly a buffoon, and part of a very sleazy project, he strikes me as more pathetic than evil. Having much enjoyed his discomfiture at the hands of Guido, I am beginning to feel a bit uncomfortable at the the continuing destruction of the man to the point of exulting over his likely inability to earn any kind of a living. Maybe time to shift target? God knows, there are plenty out there to attack.
Draper can have any profession he likes. So long as it does not involve tampering with the minds of sick and/or vulnerable people. That’s worse than being a spin doctor…
it looks like draper is one of the sick and/or vulnerable, don’t you think
They’ll kick him out, otherwise they end up looking stupid as an ethical body. He’ll carry on, though, because he has no morals, no ethics………..and, doubtless, no ability!
I’m waiting for GMTV to invite Guido or Dale on to the GMTV sofa, on Garraways’s shift…………..well, I can wish, can’t I??
Already been on the sofa
Ho ho, I know things you don’t.
Gimpy would agree
http://gimpyblog.wordpress.com/2009/04/12/derek-draper-is-unfit-to-practice-psychotherapy/
Draper is unacceptable as a human being.
Agreed. Can we kick him out of humanity too?
Or just disqualify him for cheating!
Steady on!
To say he IS an unacceptable human being is one thing but to say he unacceptable AS a human being smacks a little too much of the SS.
OK can we just kick him?
Have to agree with Airey on this one. Draper’s a first class arsehole who has serially fucked up everything he’s touched but there’s no point kicking the smoking ruins.
He’s finished. You won.
As a qualified fire warden I should point out that it is considered extremely reckless to leave smouldering embers or “smoking ruins” unattended. Only when all signs of life have been extinguished can we consider the job done.
Good point sambo
Bleedin’ elfen safeT brigade!
until its your gaff of course …………..then you want them to come and drag you out of the house with no smoke alarm…
You do have smoke alarms Peter don’t you err ….Peter?…PETER!!!!!!!!!
I think he’s gone to B&Q and spent the BEST FIVE POUNDS OF HIS LIFE!
Draper and earlier reincarnations of this defective gene – one thinks of Red Robbo, Derek “Degsy” Hatton, Arthur Scargill – dont come around often enough. If there was one such representative in each generation I cannot see how anyone would ever vote Labour?
Oh my God I hope they dont’t expell him. He might have a relapse and top himself
Conversely, Draper, an unqualified quack, might be faced with a patient about to ‘top themself’, and fail to save them due to lack of experience.
That’s why he MUST be removed.
on a similar line
What qualifications do those people that govern us have?
I only ask…
at this time I will take the answer… as well….zero
Hear, hear. o/t but IPCC Nick Hardwick facing questions at 11:30 (Sky)
Dear oh dear, Drooper might not now even have this Psychoferapeh charade to eke out a modest living with.
If I didnt detest this vile little gobshyte so much for the damage he and his fellow filth have wrought on Britain and it’s politics, I’d almost be starting to feel a pang of sadness for him.
Almost.
I hope the Tories seek to regulate this charlatan’s charter forthwith.
A fellow can be banned from wheel-clamping one minute, and then go into Psycotherapy the next.
If nothing else these nomarks at the BACP must be angry Drooper has shone a light on their ridiculous and unregulated little caper.
Seriously though how mentally fucked would you have to be to seek advice from this odious little shit?
I refer you to the prescient Supertramp:
http://www.order-order.com/2009/04/labour-press-office-tries-to-keep-guido-off-the-bbc/#comment-44843
(and he looks like a tramp too)
Perhaps if BACP were aware that Trading Standards Officers were likely to be advised that BACP were not fulfilling their duty to protect the public in a sufficiently robust manner, BACP might be minded to uphold both the letter and the spirit of their rules !
Keep kicking the bastard until he’s nothing but pulp.
It’s the right thing to do.
Indeed. Draper’s a virus, you have to eradicate him completely. He has no sense of shame of morality. If he’s not destroyed, in a year ot two he’ll be back, believe it.
yes, then piss on him from a great height.
He’d probably like that.
Slightly off-topic, but could someone please tell me why a grown man would want to be known as Dolly? Is there a usage of the name that has masculine connotations that i am not familiar with? Or is he a clone? Or is it perhaps because of other activities that he gets up to with sheep?
What are the sexual proclivities of Darling to allow him membership to this cabal of deviants? Anyone offer some suggestions?
keep the welsh out of this..
‘dolly’ came from the cloned sheep of the same name except the sheep apparently had a higher IQ.
John in Cheshire He didn’t choose it luv
I reckon you are bringing down the wrong person Guido. Draper is a fool and an obvious fool at that. He does not come across as a bad un, just a fool.
It’s the Balls, Browns and Mandelsons of this world that you should be taking on, not their court jesters.
Morning, Kate.
morning anton
Dead right, but it makes sense to start from the bottom and work up, and there is no one lower than Dolly.
it makes sense to start from the bottom
err… no thanks really!
You forget Guido has worked the market. Rule #1: sell when everyone is buying, and vice versa.
The artistry in Guido’s machinations is comparable to that strange shooting competition held beside an Alpine lake, where contestants try to hit a target by aiming at its reflection in the water – except that here you must first decide by looking into the turbid depths, muddied by vast hot airs and spin, what the target should be for maximum effect.
Every political operator should be judged by the sort of party they can organize. (5 Bellies fails this test miserably – when she’s in her sister’s back bedroom and Mr Timney is up in Redditch, what sort of a party do you call that? FFS).
I have to assume AAMcD that you have been to one of Dolly’s therapy sessions..
A very distant threesome
How much that they never even looked at his so called qualification and just accepted he had it ?
Most people are never asked to produce their so called qualifications.
Country is fucked, a choice between McBroon the one eyed Gargoyle and freaks and Lord Snooty and chums, someone shoot me now.
Meanwhile over at the Mail
Another security blunder as Cabinet minister Andy Burnham leaves confidential files on train
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1172238/Another-security-blunder-Cabinet-minister-Andy-Burnham-leaves-confidential-files-train.html
The Government has been caught in another security blunder after a passenger discovered confidential documents left on a train by Culture Secretary Andy Burnham.
The papers were contained in a case marked ‘restricted’, which was left in a carriage when the minister arrived at Euston Station in London yesterday morning.
Is there one of these idiots that is not daft as a brush. Ok Burnham, do a Bob and resign.
Are we sure they don’t leave these documents on trains deliberately?? It happens so often I’m beginning to think they do this for a reason (some sort of spin off)but for the life of me cannot think what!
If not, then they clearly are all incompetent idiots and unfit for government!
It’s quite incredible.
For what possible reason would the department of culture (and there’s a department that can be downsized to nothing) have restricted documents?
Maybe they were discussing an ‘arms length’ organisation to peddle smears and myths on behalf of NuLabour. The culture department is responsible for the BBC isn’t it?
It’s culture, meeja and sport to give it its full worth.
A wonderous name, simultaneously tautological and oxymoronic no matter how you read it, full of sound and fury, and signifying passive consumption at home of the tripe on TV.
Don’t worry. He’s ordered a review.
Hilarious stuff! What hoons.
How can you have a departmental review of someone leaving their briefcase on a train? What’s the betting they allow MPs to claim extra expenses for ‘bag carriers’ to make sure this ‘can never happen again’ and that ‘lessons have been learned’.
What’s wrong with a pair of handcuffs
anyone notice how quiet they are trying to keep this, besides, you do not mark something restrcited ifs it not confidential, important and for certain eyes only. Whoever found it should have gave it Guido so he could phone Andy and get a hilarious grovel from Burnham. The thought of Guido handing back documents that a cabinet minister lost on a train would have been too hilarious to watch.
Damian Green was arrested for receiving “restricted” documents. Shouldn’t the same fate befall Burnham, given that absolutely anybody could have perused them?
‘Restricted’ is a virtually meaningless classification – each sheet of Army toilet paper used to have it on (no joke).
Poor chap probably distracted by the tears in his eyes after getting booed last week.
HOW DARE HE!!
Secure documentation is always left on the 4.21 (stopping service- with Buffet seat – reservation only) from Waterloo! I wasted a ticket here where so I send it for expenses.
PS I ended up in Little Doghind on the stole and no hotel for miles
Absolutely brilliant.
what is?
I said this on Lord Elvis’s Blog on 16th April
When your enemy, and that’s what he is, is prostrate before you, then put the boot in good and hard until he’s finished.
Bear in mind that that’s precisely what he’d do to you.
Not now Cato!
Poor old Dolly. He couldn’t win a kick in a riot.
Steady on there – pushed too far he could end up in Rampton, which would surely be a “cruel and unusual punishment” for the other inmates there.
Hello Dolly – pick up the soap.
I am not one to wish ruination on any man but I hope that Draper’s life goes down the pan and into the sewer for his part in this affair.What Nu Labour has and is doing to our Country grieves me every day and I hate the lot of them
Luv that “but”!
Agree. I’m not one to kick a man when he’s down.
Happy to make an exception in Dollys’ case.
Grind the bastard into pulp
Draper is the route to Balls … in more ways than one
Keep going Guido
Odd that there are no comments supportive of Dolly from the ZaNuLieBor goons yet. Their masters have really cut him loose!
He failed in his mission AND what’s more he didn’t take the “drop” immediately like McBride and tried to “tough it out”and in the process flicked some of the flying stuff in Brown’s direction. QED !
I ‘ve just read in the Times that there is a Scottish version of RedRag ,up and running , called the Leaky Chanter. For those of you who don’t know a chanter is a practice instrument for the bagpipes.
The website which was apparently set up stateside , is an attack website on the SNP and Alex Salmond, it should be called the Leaky Chanty or Dirler since it peddles Pi$h. *Chanty ,Dirler , Gozunder or Potty for the more refined!
Ho’d your whisht, ya midden. I’m truly sorry man’s dominion/ Has broken nature’s social union cos a hoon’s a hoon for a’ that.
Ah cannae hold it, Cap’n. Ah gawt no pooer.
The chanter is part of the bagpipes: it is the pipe with holes in it that is fingered by the bagpipe player to play the tune. (Fr. chanter= to sing)
He who pays the piper…
Hoons
Poor old dolly. Even I who think he is a complete hoon am beginning to feel a bit sorry for him.
It’s like taking a mangy old dog on its last legs into a field and giving it both barells. It’s a dirty unpleasant business but someone has to do it.
Bloody hell Mike, you’re not much of a shot! One barrel should be enough, whether for a mangy dog or Dolly Draper, insofar as they can be distinguished.
If you lived in the country you’d know one is never enough – one to do the job and one “for luck”.
He is chaff.
He is expendable.
He is serving his purpose as a decoy.
Do not be distracted by this flunkey and get after the master puppeteer – asap.
http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page19060
Changes to Expenses………
note his head movements….definitely inspired by Blair
OK… open question.
What career / occupation is Dolly fit for?
1. Organ Donor
2. Food taster for Vlad Putin
3. Fluffer
4. Medical School Vivisection
Prima ballerina
Children’s entertainer (eg presenter of “Rainbow”)
Man who punches holes in cream crackers
Scientologist
Lollipop man
Canine beautician
Fluffer? Who’d want a tramp like that?
Pimp?
You’re right re fluffer; perhaps “post moneyshot damper” would be a better slot for the fellow to fill.
He could work for sanitary ware manufacturers testing new toilets, as he’s very like those floating turds that just won’t fucking flush away.
Dunnikin diver.
crash test dummy
one of those guys that go round office toilets and empty the ‘red rag’ box
human shield in Afghanistan…
The winner just has to be…………
“Man who punches holes in cream crackers”
Hat tip!
I’m in a public place and absolutely hooted (everyone was looking at me ..Hurumph..bit like normal then really)
Reminds me of an incident a few years ago.
I was eating some shortbread biscuits, and realised that the pattern of holes on the biscuit weren’t random, they were Braille.
The message read “Help, I am being held hostage with my guide dog in a biscuit factory”
Were the Police interested? Were they f
Theres never a plod when you need one Huh?
This is all just froth…
… Gordon’s hard work is beginning to pay off and we are beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel, green shoots even. The worst of the recession, that started with the collapse of the subprime in America, is over. QE is easing us away from that dreaded stagnation that a lot of so called pundits predicted. Tomorrow will see a rise in unemployment, once again we can blame the USA banker for that, but Mr Darling will have some cheer in his Budget that will ease the situation.
For the vast majority of people in the country the recession has not hurt them, i.e, we have reduced VAT, stamp duty, mortgage rates, indeed reduced taxes, the only people at the moment hurting and paying are savers, we have a year to help them with higher rates, raise tax thresholds etc. Mr Darling I feel will help with that. Savers by nature are forgiving.
The outlook brightens and I think by the end of the year recovery will be well on it way. The new year will give us space to take on the Tories, to ask them what they would have done to to prevent this unfortunate blip, caused by the likes of Sir Fred Goodwin and other (Tory) businessmen taking advantage of the heathy business environment we supplied, and get the economy moving again. Suspect “Do Nothing” will be a vote winner plus we can highlight once again how the Tories will at last “Do Something” i.e. NHS cuts, reduction in nurses, local services, cancer wards, etc. We will need to point out strongly that is was LESS Government intervention (with Banking) and free market enterprise (Banking) that got us in this mess. Point out that the Tories with even less intervention might even bring on another nasty unforeseen recession. We, unlike others, took on the blame and DID something, the buck stopped with us.
We can highlight the years of boom and point out even with the reccession we are not back in those dark “Major” years, draw a line and move forward. Lets not undo all the good we have done. Point out this time we will be on the lookout for the “barrow boy” tactics of the free market, we have learned from our mistakes the past three years. Our stock will rise as the new year warms up and I think we will win the next election, not quite such a large majority but another five years. Then once again Mr Brown can hold his head high with the world’s elite, as the man who brought the world back from what reckless business men did and lay a foundation down for honest regulation in global markets.
Remember “a week is a longtime time in politics” we have 52.
Nurse, there’s another loon just escaped from Broadmoor here!!
You sir, are a fucking idiot.
What have Labour done to prevent this unfortunate blip? Fuck all and done their best to make it worse. You fucking shit-eating muppet.
fuck off!
the world’s elite?
they are all lying cheating fraudulent murdering scum-
that is why gbrown fits in with them-or not!
at every meeting they avoid him-
except O’bama-
who was fawning at him like a schoolgirl with a crush on her teacher?
oh yes-the man who writes books on courage………
just fuck off you stupid cnut-
try telling people paying off the national debt for the next sixty years that they havent been hurt-or those without jobs…….like me.
I grew up in the ’30s with an unemployed father. He didn’t riot. He got on his bike and looked for work, and he kept looking ’til he found it.
That makes you about a hundred years old and a drain on the country.
I think the guy is quoting Norman Tebbit (Tory MP) born 29 March 1931
“This is all just froth…”
So why fucking write it then? Hoon.
What utter nonsense.
We don’t even know the full extent of the banks’ debts yet – shows how much you know! This recession has NOT bottomed out yet, despite your weird take on the economy.
You can only talk something up (as I take it that’s what you are trying to do) if there is some solid foundation to ‘talk up’. You lot have left this country with nothing – Brown even sold the gold at cut price cost!
The tories are NOT “do nothing”; that’s just one of Dame Mandy’s mantras which Brown et al have been repeating for ages now. Most of us know it is meaningless and that the tories DO have ideas and policies. The more you spin this ‘do nothing’ lie, the bigger an idiot you look (if that is possible).
And the tories should start by abolishing all Blair’s and comrade Brown’s quangos they set up – this could save us billions as they are totally unnecessary and useless.
Also, abolish the ridiculous ID card project; that could also save us billions.
And let’s get rid of all these stupid consultants and advisors employed by the loony left to do crazy things such as ‘teach MOPs how to use Facebook and Twitter”. This will save us loads of money.
“For the vast majority of people in the country the recession has not hurt them” – such arrogant and incorrect comments are presumably a pathetic attempt to ‘spin’ the truth.
You lies and deceit just continue flooding out. You are indoctrinated and brainwashed and you just don’t get it do you? Can you stop yourself from lying??
Perhaps you are a product of nulabour’s failed education system?
Whatever, you are a great big lying NUMPTY!
Cameron is working for the Banksters too, they are Looting the Country and enslaving the population with their Ponzi Scheme money.
Credit is thin air.
It’s all a massive world wide CON.
So just who do you vote for?
The ‘Do Nothing Party’ or the ‘Mess with it till it falls to pieces party’…??
Now there you all were, feeling sorry for Dolly, and here comes a dose of reality. You can’t afford to show any mercy. They are as hard to finish off as that melting humanoid thingy in that Terminator film.
Thanks for that, they say laughter is the best medicine, so you have done more good than Dolly Draper ever did in the course of his bogus medical career. I shall pray for your recovery.
you hoon go on national televison then and make the same announcement and stop peddalling your spin fibs on here , carefull chaps dolly deploying NLP to make you vote for his wonk party. “look into my eyes not around the eyes but look into them , you are feeling sleepy , labour have done nothing wrong ever, the tories are such losers , 3 2 1 now wake up ”
full range of mindbenders now being offered
Keep it up.
Ignore their putrid squeaking and pathetic provocations.
In reply to New Labour, the way forward…
You really are SICK using the lie that the tories will cut cancer wards in hospitals. Where have you read or heard that or is it just some nasty little lie you dreamt up in your twisted and muddled mind?
Go get a life you loser and understand the majority of the population will no longer believe your spin and deceit. You have all been caught out and it is too late.
Ever heard the story about the boy who cried wolf?
If not, go and google it you fool.
Actually the HMS NHS has been a complete mistake and should be sunk immediately, just see my blog if you don’t believe me.
See the National Death Service Blog for examples of the how socialist medicine kills British Ill people.
Is that you two jags?
Shagged any secretaries lately and lied to your wife about it? Ooh and hows the mansion and millions in the bank, are you enjoying the fruits of other peoples labour?
Hey comrade hows the vote rigging for your son going, will he soon be following you into a place at the pig trough?
Nothing like a two faced millionaire lording it about while ordinary people suffer is there comrade?
No, not two Jags, it’s semi-literate.
What planet are you on, you demented hoon?
The interest on my savings, which I depend on to live, has gone
down by a huge amount. I don’t see my council tax being reduced
to take account of this.
Savers are helping to pay other people’s mortgages. My has gone down, a lot, Thanks!
My local council needs the money because it invested in a Icelandic bank, and lost it. Thanks!
What a fucking prick!
..and you’ve had about 624 weeks to screw the Country and its people…which you have achieved with admirable incompetence!
I thought the screwing of the country was done rather competently and thoroughly actually.
From FT blog piece less than a month ago:
“According to the Ernst & Young Item club, in the two years 2009-10 and 2010-11, the government will probably have to raise £350bn.
That is more debt bequeathed to its successor than the total borrowed by successive rulers and governments of Britain between 1691 and 1997, the year Labour was elected.
As a share of national income, public borrowing is expected to rise from 2.6 per cent in 2007-08 to 12.6 per cent in 2009-10 as tax revenues plummet and already fixed public expenditure plans account for an ever larger share of falling gross domestic product. ”
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4200f0f6-1991-11de-9d34-0000779fd2ac.html?
nclick_check=1
Talk of the green shoots has more to do with Spring heralding good weather than it does the economy, we still haven’t had the bill yet
“Reduced taxes”?????? What medication is this deluded person on? and yes the lie about cutting cancer wards is sick but it typifies the culture of New Labour unfortunately.
VAT?
A vat of medication. Oh I see. It still isn’t working though.
Tell me Mr Troll does shit stick to your fur?
It appears to stick to all your “Red Comrades” quite nicely, test it out wipe some of the shit off of Nick “Toenails” Robinson, you know the reporter from the BBC (The Brown Bottom Club) and see if it sticks, bet it does!
And yes the buck does indeed stop with you and your “Red Comrades” Mr Troll, except it’s not bucks it’s pounds and its around 3+ trillion of them including the stuff your “Red Comrades” forgot to tell us about, to put that into perspective 1 billion is approximately 32 years in seconds.
Will you be using OUR credit card Mr Troll or yours?
Word of advice if Labour stay for another 52 weeks they will not get back into power again for a generation if they ever get back in at all.
Run Troll, the sun is coming up, the sheep are actually wolves and we got you red scum sussed!
FLUSH!
Calm down, dears. It’s a satire – gave me a smile anyway.
So difficult to tell these days
Its great to hear someone who is not totally paranoid on this site. Lee would understand, they need milk and alcohol
Fuck me, I thought Wilko was going to totter off the edge of the stage on that one….
“Tomorrow will see a rise in unemployment”
Really? How do you know this? Is this a little leak? A little leak from a little prick.
STOP LYING – WE DON’T BELIEVE YOU!
We all know unemployment is rising as we are the ones losing our jobs! Effing idiot!
Sorry, in my previous message the quote from the labour message should have read:
“Tomorrow will see a rise in employment”
My last 2 messages are nonsense, so please ignore!! I misread the labour goon’s message – thought he was saying employment was going to rise…….must put my specs back on.
Sorry for wasting your precious time!
Marge,
Guess who I bumped into in Specsavers yesterday???
………EVERYONE!!!
geddit?
Very good Doctor Mick!
You’ve reminded me I must get my eyes seen to!
I keep walking into ‘things’ rather than people….am black and blue all over!
I gotta take my hats off to you, you will certainly get a bigger audience spouting that shit on this blog rather than the labourlist. You display all the characters of a true labour supporter in complete denial. The torys like last time will have to make cuts because like everytime before you leave the country bankrupt.
I guess if your going to re-invent yourselfs again i would go with the name. “New New Labour” does not quite have a good ring to it though. What about “New Labour – Were honestly not a bunch of a bottom feeding bastards this time”
Everyone in the country wishes you were the “Do nothing party” as everyone you touch turns to shit
Gordon Brown being a lunatic on latest video from No10.
Huhne!
The BCAP website has a button link to ‘The rapist websites’
Is this appropriate for a such a professional body?
So .. so close to spitting my tea all over my keyboard…
Membership of the BACP is not a prerequisite to being a psychotherapist so even if they do kick him out he can continue – albeit as “damaged goods.”
So much for the “caring profession” And the nasty sh*t was also set to smear the recently bereaved Cameron who’d just lost his young son.
They can have no excuse for not booting him out of their ranks and referring him for counselling (but, then again some people are beyond all help!)
Gordon Brown vid-cast on expenses.
What a fucking tosser!
WTF is he on?
Got that freaky smile back as well.
Announcing lots of requirements for MP’s extra income to be fully detailed; clearly they need some more dirt on tory MP’s in time for the election
He’s angling for a part in the next Batman movie by the looks of it.
That is exactly what this is all about – this creature is the lowest of the low. It’s not 5 minutes since he agreed to meet Cameron and Clegg to discuss MPs expenses then he announces this on youtube (of all places) as a pre-emptive strike before any discussions have taken place.
Past and current vice-presidents of the BACP include:
Sandi Toksvig
Linda Bellos
John Battle
Paul Boateng
No political bias there, oh dearie me no.
If he was expelled from the Wright Institute before completing his course of study, am I right in assuming he has been practising as a psychotherapist without the requisite qualifications? What legal and/or professional consequences are there for such an outrageous offence?
and why was he expelled?
According to Guido’s previous posts he appears to have been given the MA in Psychology simply to get him to leave, so it would seem that he did not satisfy the examiners in some way, but it may have been for other reasons.
Whether or not even an earned MA in psychology is a qualification to practise psychotherapy is debatable. In the US they have restrictions about that, but we do not and membership of the BACP is also unnecessary but a badge of some degree of respectability.
The underlying issue is does his MA in psychology, or Drapers “study of psychologies” give a sufficient grounding making him competent as a therapist? The BACP appear to have accepted it as such.
An MA in Psychology is an academic qualification NOT a professional qualification. A professional psychologist or psychiatrist (they are medical doctors and can prescribe drugs) needs a doctorate obtained during a period of several years full time supervised professional training. Psychotherapists are bottom of the pile along with reflexologists, hypnotherapists and the like.
WTF gordon does expenses announcement on you tube , kelly report is still ongoing , not put it before house first , blokes totally losing it .
same smile as mosquito nets veneers speech , be afriad be very afraid .looks like same production as for ed balls
all under 20s reading this blog , the pm has lost you your part time jobs dont buy it , he could have done somthing about it years ago .
by the way did he meet with cameron and clegg as he promised to do in last PMQs or is this oppertunist crap again
Has this part of the story not lost it’s legs?
Do we have to kick him all along the gutter, after his second spectacular fall?
Aren’t there other people who deserve the kicking now?
I have a pair of boots I’ve been waiting to use on Balls
They are all linked waterboard Dolly till he squeals and castration of Balls will follow.
If you have them by the balls their hearts and drapers will follow
or um..something like that.
We need Dolly….he has given us more laughs than a Morecombe & Wise re-run…so brow furrowing EARNEST….time to ease up….he’s NOT a sex offender !….just a twat who sees everything he believes in being lost and is desperate to try and halt it…..not the same on Twitter now that he’s not there….but Dolly…it’s OVER my friend…like the Tories in ’97 you are going to lose because you DESERVE to lose…accept it with good grace….and don’t worry…the British electorate is stupid enough to vote your lot back in after 5 years….and then let’s give the Tories another go….then Labour….then…???as the film said ‘Deja vu just keeps repeating itself !’
dolly-the man of influence with 17 labour orifices is a habitual liar-just like the rest of the new nazi weirdo party……..
keep kicking him guido and all the rest-
it is gloves off time-remember these cnuts will do ANYTHING to keep their cabal in power..like asking the bbc to censor you for a start!
i salute a man with genuine courage……….
He may be down but he is not out.
Wouldnt it be wrong to kick someone when they are down.
In this case NO .Give him a kick in the Balls for me.
In reply to New Labour, the way forward…
You really are SICK using the lie that the tories will cut cancer wards in hospitals. Where have you read or heard that or is it just some nasty little lie you dreamt up in your twisted and muddled mind?
Go get a life you loser and understand the majority of the population will no longer believe your spin and deceit. You have all been caught out and it is too late.
Ever heard the story about the boy who cried wolf?
If not, go and google it you fool.
What a bunch on wazzaks — do they have a list of ‘acceptable’ and ‘unacceptable’ motivations for complaints ?
“Yes sir we know he is a liar and a cheat, but why are you telling us?”
Tom Watson has been extremely quiet.No more threats from Carter-Fuck either.Does anyone know what is happening therr?Has Watson been to his place of work (No 10) ?
he didnt want to have to go to court as then all his communications could be requested and then , hed be guilty .
take him down.
I presume that if he is a member of said body then he can practice?
If his qualifications and conduct are in question then we have to finish this off as people who genuinely need help could be taken by this fraud…..
Correct me if i’ve got this wrong, but if he has given advice to people on the basis of his qualifications as a professions IE “helped” people then isn’t this akin to a MD practising without qualifications… IE worth of a jail sentence???
practice on what?
you would think he was good by now without all the practice stuff..
As a Professional therapist, with proper qualifications from a proper place of learning, all I can say is that I & many of my colleagues & industry professionals are livid that such a conman, a fraudster really, could besmirch our profession.
Mr Draper will face even more pressure to quit the profession after the hearing – we really cannot allow small time opportunists with no ethos or empathy for helping people to carry on trading or practising in anyway within our industry.
As a professional therapist I was absolutely horrified that he could think it “absolutely brilliant” to slander anyone on the WWW whilst knowing the damage he could cause to the individuals concerned.
No real therapist would or could even entertain the idea of damaging a person deliberately for personal or professional gain – let alone political advantage – it is an horrific idea to real carers, health professioanls & therapists.
He must be banished. He will be banished.
Guido – why was Draper thrown out of the Wright Institute after only 3 years??
Sounds like Archer’s dodgy time in the US.
By the way check out the Wright’s webpage: http://masters.wi.edu/
The MA course is weekends only and allows you to practise in California. What was Derek up to the rest of the time??
Its not the same course.
He started on the Doctoral program, got kicked out, threw a wobbly and they gave him an MA to get rid of him.
as a real therapist can you please complain to the BACP ? otherwise Guido’s comment:-
Guido understands that the original complaints were rejected by the BACP on the grounds that they “politically motivated” and did not come from clients or other members of the association.
may happen again…..
by the way if you have a few moments
i keep having this recurring dream , that iam living in east germany , under some sort of fake micro law communist rule, and everytime i speak out about it pamela anderson calls me up and asks me on a date .
what would you recommend some valarire tablets or just giving harman pride a good kicking when she uses her blogg name and not the others .
ps looks like pm could do with some help , hes scaring the kids , really .
Is statutory regulation of psychotherapy therefore required?
Yes – We can call it “Draper’s Law”.
Children and vulnerable people must be protected from this man.
No real therapist would or could even entertain the idea of damaging a person deliberately for personal or professional gain – let alone political advantage – it is an horrific idea to real carers, health professioanls & therapists.
I know of a Professor who has done exactly that.
One of the problems with psychotherapy training in the UK is that tends to attract people who really should be steered instead to undergoing therapy as patients. It is a bit like a person who suffers from headaches applying to train as a brain surgeon.
Of course, a requirement of psychotherapeutic training is that the student undergoes some level of therapy themselves – but this is often done in a group environment, with other students – where the students are free to socialise outside of the therapy room. A group of twelve can often contain six or more students. And this group’s structure invariably leads to a level of compliance between the students involved as well as their group ‘mentor’.
The colleges, of course, are reluctant to address these issues and apply a strict filtering system to weed out those who would clearly benefit from psychotherapy as patients because more students means more tuition fees.
In assessing the Derek Draper case, a willingness to address the above concerns will affect British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy’s decision. From the events of the past few weeks, it seems clear that Draper is a man whose needs would have been met as a patient and NOT as a student. A decision to bar Draper would require an admission that one had ‘slipped through the net’ and a long-overdue BACP self-examination of the net itself.
well said ART
Wouldn’t it be better if he remained around showing the face of labour for all to see? I wish Guido aimed higher, now that he has blooded his axe on easy meat.
Just seen ITV describe Kate as “The Biggest Loser”
http://www.itv.com/PressCentre/Presspacks/TheBiggestLoser/default.html
I think most of us would agree!
Possibly her husband is a bigger loser
you couldn’t make it up
Who watches shite like that? Come to think of it, who thinks such a programme is worth making?
Terrifying to think such morons are alive and breathing in Britain in 2009.
Gordon has often spoken of the first class advice and opportunity awaiting those who really want to work at Job Centre Plus.
Macdonalds is expanding and needs staff.
“Large lies, or regular, sir?”
Yeh – but you need at least a degree – 2.1 or better these days to even get an interview AND stand in line there’s another 70 fuckers before you !!!!
Spread the word and see my blog.
Dismantle the NHS now, it’s a mistake to offer medical care free at the point of need.
Why should the old and the sick get special treatment?
Let them and their families go down the drain like they do in the US.
Oh Derek, pull yourself together. We know you’re ruined but take it like a man (as Dame Mandy always told you).
I have a feeling you are an impostor….
Of course he’s an imposter.
It’s just the devious sort of evil misrepresentation that this bunch of low lives understand and believe in. It’s either Dildo Derek, Dame Mandy, Mcbride or some dillusional sycophant who lives off benefits or works for the public sector.
Go and read my blog, David Cameron is right behind it.
Kill off the NHS.
Kill the NHS before your meagre ration of treatment kills you.
As far as I can see Dolly is still editor of Labourlost and a practising psychotherapist. Ok he’s received some abuse but he probably believes there’s no such thing as bad publicity. Please keep kicking him until he actually suffers some real damage.
He ended up like a limping rabbit with the lurchers after him. NOW let’s get early rid of some of the really damaging dangerous men in politics – Brown and Mandelson. I STILL think that Lord Meddlesom will end up as Labour’s NEXT candidate for PM ! By the way, I wonder how long before somebody decides to bring in qualifications that you need to practice BLOGGING. Guido would be out because of his criminal past!
Mandelson no doubts intends to become Leader. The whole business about the constitution being changed so Lord Mandelson could address the Commons has always had the look of an impending putsch to me.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
DO NOT BE SIDETRACKED BY DRAPER…
HE IS JUST THE FALL GUY FOR CHARLIE WHELAN AND TOM WATSON…
ENDS…
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Morning Derek! Fresh back from taking your PC for a nice little drive?
Draper may be pathetic, but I’m not sympathetic – unless he is sectioned
Yep..vivisectioned!
I Secondsectioned that!
Please stop attacking Mr Draper he is still my editor.
Draper is completely awful and obviously so – how is any of this a surprise to anyone?
Guido, I know Im going against the flow here but I think you should lay of Draper, he has been a useful idiot for The Labour party but he is finished his reputation n tatters.
Continuing to go after him risks giving the impression that this blog is primarly used in a continuing spat between two bloggers. There are bigger issues and bigger fish out there.
Dont you think no 10 would rather you were diverted by turning your fire on Dolly instead of them ?
Lets get back to focusing on our troughing MP’s and to the shambles that is the current administration.
A fair point, but given that Draper has already managed one resurrection from the dead, it’s as well this time to have driven the stake right through his heart, so he cannot awaken once more to serve the Lord of Darkness.
Nice try Derek.
Lots of astroturfing today. Either it’s the man himself or it’s lots of Dolly’s followers posting here trying to save his bacon. His bacon is not worth saving.
#241 no sorry Im not Draper I just want to make the point that a blog like this could easily get stereotyped as simply being an anti Drapper Blog and the Feud between Guido and Drapper being the story itself. The blog would lose a bit of credibility should this happen.Stop being so paranoid.
Oh yeah right. Lose credibility by pursuing an extremely high-profile and visible member of Labour’s attack machine when they are caught doing their dirty deeds? Lose credibility by taking to it’s logical conclusion the story that Guido put into the mainstream press? Do me a favour.
Draper seems so drawn to power in all its forms that one can’t help suspecting that the psychotherapy angle is just intended to be a way to gain power over individuals or groups by other means.
Witness Dizzy’s piece
http://dizzythinks.net/2009/04/would-you-pay-for-blogging-advice-from.html
Gain an insight into the mindset of bloggers…? In order to manipulate it, presumably!
Stop messing with our heads, man!
Who is this Draper person? I have never heard of him either.
In the present Labour Party parlance that would be “Mr” Draper – he’s an associate of “Mr” McBride and they are two people on “the fringe” of the party we understand and certainly their actions were NEVER condoned by anyone in the Party – got that !!
Guido
I’m surprised you haven’t highlighted this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/apr/21/damian-mcbride-whitehall-media-no10
Hmm…. a quote from Derek’s personal blog:
“…I have excellent qualifications as a psychotherapist including an MA in psychology and another MA which I am about to receive from a very distinguished UK institution..”
and Guido:
“…If, and Guido means if, you already have an “excellent” MA in psychology, why do you need another?…”
Yes! But this would then lead to Derek Draper, MA MA. I feel strongly that this man is harbouring a monstrous Oedipus complex, and he is unconsciously trying to express these yearnings
Funnily enough….
I actually have two precise quals in the same discipline at an HND standard for those that can remember HND’s of course.
Bizarre really but I still put it in my CV which when I get to any interview makes them ask about that rather than them talking about all the stalking/armed robbery banks & trains shit.
This could be worth a read. Nice summing up of Gordon.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1172181/LITTLEJOHN-We-need-election–Budget.html
Littlejohn has a sweet way with words.
Kevin Maguire has just appeared on a BBC Radio 2 ‘phone in talking up the Dear Leader’s emergency expenses overhaul bill.
If only Guido had known beforehand, he could have faxed them a complaint to try and stop it.
Guido cant’ you leave at least ME in peace
Cleo, I still wonder if you really fancied the maid mor than me!
So he’s a charlatan, eh?
There’s nothing quite so bad as someone pretending to be something they’re not: teachers, chartered surveyors or accountants: they should all be professionally qualified in accordance with the rules of their prospective professions. How else can you trust such people and rely upon their jusdgement and advice? In particular, this especially applies those in the medical professions such as therapists, psychologists, docto..
ahem!
Go to this meeting tonight and ask about their most famous graduate – Dolly
http://www.hoffmaninstitute.co.uk/when-calendar.html
“The Hoffman Process does have the power to free you to re-evaluate your life. I would say it’s the equivalent to about a year’s good weekly psychotherapy. I can honestly say that at times I experienced a sense of wholeness that, even today, six years later, I remember as a benchmark for how my life can be at its best.”
Derek Draper, MA Clinical Psychology
Something has set me wondering about Del boy, is he Gordo’s pyschotherapist, with supposed rumours of Nokia throwing, now that could be an Olympic sport me thinks suggest it to Lord Coe
was McFuckwit led back on the chequers couch?
“Guido has been unable to confirm if formal written complaints have been made by disgusted psychotherapists who fear he is bringing psychotherapy into disrepute. BACP committee members themselves are said to be concerned.”
In much the same way I’ve been unable to confirm that Guido is a paedophile with a smack habit. You know if the blog ever goes tits up, a career on the Daily Mail awaits.
Guido is himself said to be a Huhne.
Well if you don’t like this site, you can always accept a full refund and fuck off somewhere else.
Mr Draper is unknown to the Guvnor . Mr Draper may have supped with the Prime Mentalist at Chequers unknownst to the Guvnor.
Mr Draper may be known to Harriet Harpie the pretender and Alan Johnny the other pretender.
If I were Draper I’d just set up a rival ‘professional’ body a bit like the darts players did a few years ago. Then I’d proclaim myself Chairman and grand Pooh-Bah and declare my credentials as completely impeccable.
Nothing to stop him. Just set up a website and away you go. Psychotherapists-Are-Us is your professional body.
I might set up my own professional body for psychotherapists.
“If I were Draper”….. now there’s a thought – I hope the nightmares go away!
The whole business of psychotherapy is neither defined nor controlled in the UK. Anyone, even Draper, can call themselves a psychotherapist and practice without the need of approvals from any regulatory body. There are numerous bodies offering certification and membership, including the one to which Dolly belongs. There is also the UKCP (UK Council for Psychotherapy) and the BPS (British Psychological Society) where you may take a course to be a Counselling Psychologist and call yourself a Psychotherapist. One London “University” offers a four year part time MA course for Psychotherapy.
This is one of those loopholes that need closing quickly. I cannot think of anything more sick than some half trained quack rummaging around in some poor bastards head. Can you imagine waking up on Draper’s couch and opening your eyes to see Wurzel Gummage looking down at you with that manic expresion.
The British Psychological Society has a Royal Charter and grants the protected title of chartered psychologist. All routes to this are now at doctoral level ie postgraduate, and require the Graduate Basis for Registration e a qualifying first degree in psychology.
Draper will not have the GBR so cannot follow this route.
Soon the Health Professionals Council with take over responsibility for psychologists and has announced plans to do the same for psychotherapists.
All trades and professions have their share of charlatans and the frankly inept.
Psychotherapy is a perfectly respectable complementary (non medical) therapy largely practiced by caring competent and ethical people. There is evidence of its value in a range of psychological and organic problems although hypnotherapy from which most of the effective techniques are derived is commonly found to be superior.
In contrast, homeopathy is treated with respect despite its unscientific basis and lack of supporting evidence and is unregulated, despite some of its practitioners claiming to be able to help cancer!
Draper is a particular problem. Whatever he does turns to shit. He is supposedly highly intelligent yet did not complete his doctorate at the Wright Institute, getting only an MA after 3 years full time study – a poor reward. He is reported to have started another doctorate or MA in psychoanalytical studies although I have read conflicting references to this being at Essex University or the Tavistock Clinic. Neither appear to have been concluded within the usual timescale (2 years part time – its now 4)
but don’t get me started about those who claim that training in so called “Neuro Linguistic Programming” is a qualification in psychology or psychotherapy.
Actually THAT’S jogged my memory – didn’t Draper say earlier in February I think but I could be slightly out -he was due to collect another degree or masters in an associated subject around about now ? I’m sure he did when he was engaged in dispute with “Guido”. Perhaps some others would like to check it out but I’m certain I remember him writing it somewhere in one of the Daily’s or possibly Sunday’s around that time as part of his rebuttal of the “in” or “at” Berkley fiasco so if my memory isn’t playing tricks has he collected it or is he due to collect it and where from ?
as in being marked “in” not “at” Essex …
In the context of an apparent lack of success historically it is a bold person who announces his success before the exams have been marked.
As I recall from when my sons/daughters took their degrees they had a fair inkling this late in the course – if it’s his final year or a one year masters degree whether he’ll graduate and subject to his dissertation being delivered for marking(his supervisor will have told him or should have whether that piece of work will make the pass standard anyway)- what his degree is likely to be graded at ( presumably he will have been submitting work thoroughout his course also for marking etc and barring accidents of a total dissertation fail(pretty unlikely if he’s got to the end of the course without failing – I accept that’s a big “IF” on his previous apparent record – and finally if he’s actually enrolled “in” or “at” Essex at all that is.)
It is very common for people to publish their successful dissertation/thesis or use them as the basis for a more readable book.
Draper has recently published a book.
I wonder if he jumped the gun.
Draper learned many of the dark arts from Mandy.
Did he fail THAT course too ?
Off to the court of public opinion for another beating.
Good. Silly bitch.
I looked at the picture and if Draper jumped overboard with a lifebelt round his neck like the that, the best he could hope for would be a broken jaw. Now wouldn’t that be a cracking You Tube clip?
And miss out on the future of journalism? No fear. I need to keep up with what Guido imagines took place at Labour Party meetings he didn’t attend. This is what passes for news nowadays and I don’t want to be mocked at social events for being out of the loop.
I fear for your sanity Guido.
Among the former and present vice chairman of Drapers psycho association are , Paul Boateng, Sandi Toksvig and Esther Rantzen.
Draper will probably be appointed Life Chairman of this group.
The Thames awaits your presence, Guido.
Brazilian chocolate on the menu?
Doing a bit of Googling, it appears that The British Psychological Society holds the Royal Charter for Psychotherapists and the like, and its members can call themselves Chartered; I ‘m wondering therefore if the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy is just a ‘friends meeting house’ for like-minded individuals.
I am a Chartered Engineer, but there are lots of ‘Engineering Societies’ etc out there that don’t offer the professional qualification of Chartered.
Could it be that the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy is just a ‘talking shop’ anyway. Perhaps I could be enlightened.
Sorry you folk who beat me to this line – I should have read the earlier comments a bit more carefully, instead of doing my engineering.
Some people just can’t get their priorities sorted out!
BPS:Psychologists not Psychotherapists, the former can be the latter but not vice versa! The BPS route to chartership is via Counselling Psychology which can look suspiciously like psychotherapy, but they do not recognise psychotherapy per se. The main difference is that psychology has to be scientifically studied, including knowledge of research methodology RCT’s and statistical analysis, in order to embark on scientific study and research into the the efficacy and effectiveness of different treatment modalities. In general and historically therapists followed schools of therapy which did not or could not fit be tested eg psychoanalysis.
Nowadays everyone is looking for a better evidence base for therapy so there is a little convergence.
Regulation of the area has been effected by a House of Lords report in 2000 which looked at the range of Complementary and Alternative therapies, apparently influenced by consideration of whether therapies were “not harmful” rather that good, so as to accommodate the position of homeopathy perceived to be respectable but unscientific.
OK, I’ll stick to my engineering day job.
But is the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy just a ‘talking shop’ ?
No its largely a trade union with some regulatory control over its membership who are a broad church from evidence based practitioners to “New age” woo-woo’s away with the fairies, but its right over its members are contractual.
Cool it Earth men. All this heavy stuff is doing me heads in. I need a shrink.
If memory serves me correctly (I´m going a bit gaga as age advances!) didn’t Guido discover that Dolly was expelled from the Wright Institute after 3 years of a five year MA course. I also seem to remember that he never followed this up to a satisfactory conclusion, leaving us hanging in an anticipatory cloud of….nothing!
No it was a 5 year doctoral programme he wanted to be Dr Draper.
His discontinuance for whatever reason is unexplained and may include non-payment of fees, bringing the place into disrepute, which would normally require some disciplinary process so unlikely, or not academically being up to what is a very robust programme for someone whose first degree, some years earlier was allegedly in economics rather than psychology. There was not then an MA course at the Wright Institute but Guido’s allegation is that Draper appears to have negotiated one as a condition of leaving.
This does mean that he may have obtained this MA without ever being formally examined on his knowledge of psychology or the type of psychoanalysis that he appears to have exposed his clients to.
Do his insurers know that
When I first heard Daniel(in the Lion’s den)Hannon’s tirade at Gordon Brown a few weeks ago I was surfing the web for reaction to that Great speech for at least two days.That was when I first came across the creep Draper who was on Channel Four reacting to Daniel Hannon’s speech.Draper made derogatory remarks about Hannon referring to him as ‘whoever this man is’, as if Draper was in a far superior position to acknowledge Daniel Hannon.
Draper is not in a ‘superior position’ now is he?The twat I hope he ends up in the gutter where he belongs.
Also,I think it is a most dastardly use of one’s experience and knowledge as a Pyscho therapist to help devise emails that are intended to fuck with peoples minds.Rather like becoming a medical Doctor to gain the knowledge to maim or commit murder.
Draper is a a moron
Derek Draper the Mentality Raper.
Draper the Mind Raper.
Derelict Draper the Grim reaper.
Hey, leave me out of this. I don’t deserve to be smeared by being associated with that man…
what a piece of shit. Forget BACP the this arsewipe needs to be thrown out of the country.
Muppet!
In my learned opinion there ought to be a subject access request based on XXXXXXX [fucking moderation]
I’ve been trying to wrack my brains why Draper looks familiar to me then it dawned on me.
He looks just like the psycho who drinks in my local!
Good! I know of at least one BACP member who was going to complain about him.
All of these Nu Labour people.I challenge you to a fight.I will fight all of you,one by one and I will smash your fucking heads in you pieces of shit.You have bullied the British people for 12 years and we hate you.Gordon Brown,at some point in my life I will meet you in person and I will kick your fucking shitty head in you twat.
Have you considered anger management classes, or are you an undercover anger management therapist?
…..”Calm down dear!…it’s only a con-merchant!”
Leave the lad alone!
I don’t believe in kicking a man when he’s down; you seem to want to jump continually on his head.
He’s got a lovely wife, one child and another on the way.
Guido – give Dolly a break for once. Carry on your great work – you’ve more important fish to fry.
Onwards and upwards
As Bardirect seems such a knowledgeable chap, I wonder does he know if Draper really achieved a degree qualification at Manchester University. Do we have proof of this as he appears to me to be the original gobshite and wantonly bereft of any basic intelligence. Having gained my original degree at UMIST many moons ago, many of my friends attended Manchester University at the same time and it was highly regarded for its educational standard.
Reading some of the psychospeak in Draper’s web page and in his book is styled in the typical American – “aren’t I clever using some real words strung together” style. I’ve come across this many times in the States during seminars I attended and one of my colleagues described it aptly as “Bullshit baffles brains”. It has crossed my mind that much of this gobbledegook could have easily been lifted from course notes. Who would ever know?
I’ve met plenty of people with 2:1′s from “top 10″ universities who are nob-eds. Its rather difficult to tell if someones intelligent on TV (with writers and “party line” to regurgitate) the worst thing is he’s a chancer who’ll speak when he doesnt really know what hes on about (Dennis thatcher quote comes to mind).
He was there, and long enough to get his 2:1 (that he claimed when guido asked him). not like I’ve seen the piece of paper. Lots of people from the uni remember him at the time, easily googlable to find famous witnesses.
Remember it was easier to get into manchester in the 80s – Manchester hadn’t got quite as trendy as it has been since about 1990.
I believe he got an A, B and D at A-levels. The D being in Physics.
See, more skilled in bullshitty stuff than science.
Actually not only there long enough but apparently taking 5 years to get his first degree 1985 – 1990.
5 years… no.
He certainly did not go until 1986.
And as he did get himself a post on the student union – if that was a “year off” post there, that could actually make it 3 years of degree and one year of “NUS-dossing”.
1985 to 1990 his dates on his entry from friendsreunited
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Now who do you want to believe. someone with a madeup name who could be any old fool on a blog comment? or derek draper?
He got those A-levels in 1986. I don’t know whether he started 6th form college in 1984 or 1983.
I’m “from” Manchester I didn’t study “in” Manchester (except school) so I do not know.
He claims a 2:1 in Economics. Perhaps its time to check out friendsreunited as he cannot normally help himself.
tweedle dum and tweedle dumber. him and mcbride are an incompetent disgrace