“Fake Independence” : Internal Labour Party New Media Briefing
Guido has uploaded a leaked internal Labour Party briefing document dated 21, November 2008 which states
To be successful requires development both the party’s official capacity – and the building of a variety of “extra” party, “independent” initiatives. But this hasn’t happened naturally and needs to be encouraged.
The “independent” Red Rag site was set up only three weeks earlier on November 4, 2008, the same day that Derek Draper held a blogger’s breakfast at Labour’s Victoria Street HQ. Funny kind of “independence” – gives away the Labour Party top-down mindset that they employed with LabourList and the now not-so-plausibly-deniable Red Reg websites. In fact the document shows how pathetically weak their whole catch-up strategy is to compete with ConservativeHome and Dale. Both of whom are directly referred to in the document. Anyway it reveals some of what Labour was thinking in November. Have a read of Labour’s “me-too” New Media Strategy here.
UPDATE : Guido has been calling Alex Belardinelli, Ed Ball’s SpAd, all day. Unfortunately he has been “in meetings”. Guido would like to ask him about his previous role in setting up an anonymous attack website to smear opponents. Give Guido a call when you are out of your meeting Alex…
Keep it coming, G. Drip-drip. Lovin’ it.
Am I a retard or has the red rag site changed its name to rag rouge? You can leave comments but they are moderated. Still strangely satisfying to leave one though.
er, sorry to state the obvious but the reason no-one has naturally been independently supporting the labour party is because the new labour project was designed to invade and occupy other peoples countries, to facilitatle torture of foreign and british nationals and to strip Britons of our rights to freedom that we have fought against kings for.
who the fuck would want to support a bunch of c’unts like that?
we should string these bastards up with fucking piano wire.
new labour members are traitors to this country and I think justice should be meted out to these cockroaches.
these filthy fucking traitors will pay, either at the ballot box or the lamp post, take your pick you motherfuckers and get up against the fucking wall.
Speaking of Red Rag… this is the funniest thing I’ve seen this year!
http://the-red-rag.blogspot.com/2009/04/your-not-elected-mr-brown.html
oh, and scum, if you are not sure whether or not you are a retarded then you probably are.
no offence intended spaz.
Data-capture: building on the party’s existing work to gather the e-mail addresses of Labour and floating voters.
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The above is from The New Media strategy, and thats why I won’t even visit their shit sites, never mind post on them.
There again if I did and they e-mailed/rang me I could have the pleasure in telling them what I thought of them in person.
Obviously the writer of that document was the recipient of a NuLabour education. Loved some of the spelling. Read the first couple of pages/paragraphs then gave up in boredom. Riveting it ain’t.
***STOP PRESS***
http://www.redrag.co.nz/
Keep them flying, boys! The mooncups look fab.
Apologies if this is old news.
TT
See 219 ” Mooncup”
http://www.redrag.co.nz
Yes, put this on a few days ago,
I think this is the website Gordon should said wasn’t being used
No disrespect to the ladies.
That’s quite amusing. I can just imagine the sales people in NZ thinking their on to something big in UK. They’ill probably open an office here after the sudden interest in their website? Ha ha.
Shouldn’t it be “womenstrual” anyway? And doesn’t it stop at the womenopause?
I thought a “Spad” was a French WW1 string-bag biplane, until I discovered ZanuLieBorg….
Bet you all 3p these self-important bozos have never heard of one.
Spad VII Fast and great strength.. not very manoeuvrable
Spad XIII rugged, slow to turn around. Good at diving.Solid attack platform
Spad NLab. Twisty, good greasy pole climber.Fierce attack platform. Crumples easily.
Eddie Rickenbacker, leading US air ace in WW1 brought down 26 opponents, could McBride make such a claim?
fuck me that is a sad, buzz word ridden piece of shit strategy document. Looks like some first year degree student was trying to impress their new media studies lecturer.
Still we know t’internet is where Prescott is at his most persuasive, or is that dyslexic.
Balls, ( can I refer to you by the substance of your policies ? )
I think you’ll find that Prescott is nt so much dyslexic as dysenteric. Similarly his claims to be suffering from ‘bulimia’ were simply a typo for ‘bullshitter’.
more maddog muck
Damian McBride affair: The spin doctor, the secret inquiry and a trip to the races
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/apr/21/damian-mcbride-whitehall-media-no10
Littlejohn telling it like it is:
“Brown is a toxic confection of narcissism, naked ambition, cowardice, bullying, bombast and bubbling resentment, with a volcanic, self-pitying temper and vindictive streak the width of the Firth of Forth. ”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1172181/LITTLEJOHN-We-need-election–Budget.html
Those are just his good points.
The two links are to the same document, Guido.
You bin on the Liffey water?
No. It is the same document linked to twice.
Oh no no no au contraire. You’ve linked to the same document twice.
fuckwit
snigger….
Shock new poll out this evening (20:00) for the guardian (ICM):
Tories 46%
Labour 22%
LD’s 21%
Best PM:
Cameron 65%
Brown 22%
Clegg 9%
Which government had most sleaze:
Conservative 22%
Labour 55%
Something wrong here – Lab still in double figures.
Something wrong here, the LDs are also in double figures.
Let’s wait and see – we’ve had “wind-ups” like this posted here before which come to nothing although there is an ICM poll for The Guardian due out tonight so that’s fact – BUT if the poll true and it’s a big BUT such a result is disastrous for Brown and Labour – to be only 1% ahead of LibDems with the possibility of going into the “pyschologocal” third place will further demoralise Labour ranks
Something wrong here – why have these Hoons getting any support?
Well, there’s all the people employed in the public sector – then there’s all the lifestyle unemployed in the public sector – and finally, was there any postal voting for that poll?
Leaked polls from anonymous sources here at Guido’s have an appalling track record. Classic Labour expectations management methinks.
You took the words out of my mouth
Agreed
Yup, if it’s not Labour then it’s some cock trying to influence the betting markets.
What about hanging chavs? Too good for them.
didn’t that happen in Florida???
nah Glenrothes
Would be great if the Lib Dems can beat Labour in one poll, any poll.
It will destroy the labour argument that they aren’t a credible alternative and so help divide the left-wing vote allowing for the tories to have significant successes, even with the biased electoral system they operate in
Guido more popular than the whole Labour Party leadership team.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=gordon+brown%2C+jacqui+smith%2C+guido+fawkes%2C+alistair+darling%2C+david+miliband&ctab=0&geo=all&date=2009&sort=1
No question of it. We don’t need graphs and stats to prove it. Just ask around – anyone – the whole country is so pissed off with NuLabour and what they’ve done to the Country – Brown’s diastrous handling of the economy, ever increasing sleaze, Jackie Smith’s fingers in the till and her husband’s dubious pleasures on the taxpayer, smears agianst opponents, Mandleson orchestrating everything behind backs…need I go on? Thank God for someone like Guido Fawkes to expose so much of this.
Rubbish – they’ve given the Tories a 10 point lead not a 24 point lead.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/apr/20/icm-poll-conservatives-ahead-on-economy
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/apr/20/icm-poll-conservatives-ahead-on-economy
Not quite anon….it’s still just a matter of time though!
10 points lead is not bad in the Guardian Poll,
All the voters are probably Labour supporters.
You give good graphs :)
Which government had most sleaze?
Conservative 22% (well how would you know? no bloggers back then only tame media).
Labour 55% (Can’t even run their own party finances).
Hoping or voting for the one that will not be as bad as the other assumes neither is fit for purpose.
Basically I prefer not to be robbed and/or shafted at all!
nice to see you better dressed on the daily politics show than the last time! Good man!
Guido didn’t look as smart as my boss did chairing the G20 Summit.
Your boss would look best in a white jacket with wraparound arms.
A concrete overcoat would suit him best!
you looked like less of a fat hoon when your not wearing a t shirt designed for college boys.
Is the joke still catching up to you people,he had a teashirt on for a reason.
Aye, they don’t do topless before the watershed.
Is this newly obtained ? Or do you have a mother-lode of this stuff, which you will be dripping out over a good long period ?
Hope it’s the latter …
keep on ‘em Guido, have the bastards for breakfast!!!
I’d rather have grapefruit first
then the bastards
yeuggghh!! The bastards taste of SHIT!!!
Let’s face it – socialist blogs are rubbish and no amount of peurile tripe like this will change things. All words but nothing of susbstance…just about sums up NuLiebour.
Draper= LabourPissed
Brown = Labourbust
Prescott = Labourlust
Lord Fondlebum=Labourwontbemissed
Geoff Hoon = HOON
That is all I have to say on the matter.
Sure you didn’t mean Hoon Hoon?
so much for labourlist independence!
where is Draper ? – I want him back on the tele.. such a hoon.
I don’t think Labour will let him out of the “gulag” where he’s been incarcerated and let’s face it if you were Labour would you ? The guy with McBride has almost single-handedly “lost” the General Election for Brown
Brown is quite capable of losing the election for himself. Though it’ll be very handy for him to keep a few Useful Idiots on hand for him to blame.
He’s still formatting his hard drives.
Saving his marriage probably.
Ha ha. I ain’t gonna plough through all that bollocks but it’s typical of those Labour tossers; if it won’t develop and blossom in an organic way then fucking engineer and re-engineer it until it does what you want it to.
Must dash. Concrete boots don’t fill themselves, you know.
I try not to drink during the week, but I have decided to put some Bollie in the fridge. It may well be needed later on…
Government leaking/spinning ‘efficiency savings of £10bn’ in the budget. Why wait until a recession???
why hasn’t Jacqui Smith ordered plod to track down this leak? :0
Cos Tetas Jacqui leaked it?
Quite
the number of ‘budget’ leaks today must be greater than the national debt
” I give confidential security briefings, you leak, he has been charged under section 2a of the Official Secrets Act.”
Every good comedy needs a few trailers.
Most of the leaks appear to be on the Beeb,
par for the course, as usual.
Because it is the visible spending of money that matters to Labour and other socialists – not where the money is spent (consultant chums of the politicians), nor how effective it is (slap-up lunches for said consultants).
And a nice cushy job for ministers when the electorate is finally allowed to boot them out.
My thought on this issue is that the bank bail out was not for the favour of the people. This issue proves that conclusively, but for the favour of the unemployed (former treasury ministers) have jobs (read board of directors positions etc) to go to.
Have to save their future income, just as they had to save their pensions when annihilating everyone elses.
Now people are getting angry? Why the wait?
Pensions are for old people to eat, live in accomodation (paying costs), clothes and paying heating etc bills.
Said pension money has been squandered, what on?
Where’s the all-time fabulous iconic and much vaunted pinnacle of escellence that was everyone’s old age food/heating/homes/clothes? And on the same point, where’s the alternative (free food/free heating) coming from when people retire and find that their much saved pension has been spent for them?
Why the wait? What took people so long?
We Gave the Bankers all our money to bail them out, now I hear gordon is to borrow the same money back from them AT FUCKING UNTEREST !!!!
forget that Economics bullshit, this is a Stickup, in just the same way as the Gold sell of was a Robbery.
I missed the start of Smeargate while I was on holiday, and have been genuinely enjoying catching up. I had feared that it would be a flash in the pan, but this is like watching a chess game where one party suddenly realises what the other is doing, that he is powerless to stop it, and every move reduces his options. Beautifully played so far, and I cannot wait to see Brown fold. I raise my hat to you, Mr Fawkes.
It’s amazing that one man, without any funding does the job of the Opposition and the mainstream media for them.
Amazing what a man with a lap-top and an idea can do for the “party he loves”!
ain’t that the truth! and more effective than most of the rest put together. way to go Guido!
He’s not beholden – and he has cojones
If only the Great British Electorate would vote for TRUE Independents
(not like that hoon Martin Bell who was ‘managed’ by NuLab and the LIbDems)
Salut!
As I remember, the chess term is “zugswang” which is German for “you’re fucked” the best forms of zugswang can be seen by your opponent 10 or more moves ahead. Your beaten foe struggles on hoping you will make a mistake. You just catch his eye and give him a slow grin before turning the screw. Give it to ‘em, Guido.
Yes, but i didn’t want to show off…
There’s also a useful concept in Soviet operational manoeuvre theory: their definition of operational ’shock’ captures that systemic impotence beautifully, in a way that the western military tradition has struggled to capture.
hope dolly doesnt do anything silly … like hint to Gordy that he might tell all to the NotW or the Sun. He has looked ‘depressed’ recently but he certainly doesnt own any razor blades!
But he needs the money to pay his fines or they’ll issue an international arrest warrant and extradite him under that clever non-reciprocal treaty Blair signed up to.
That just means Fat Gordo will pay the bastard Draper off – with our money!
“It started in America!” Sorry couldn’t resist it !!!!!!!
Joseph Goebbels http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels would have been proud of Labour’s strategy what will we see next a Kristallnacht on the Tories?
Nah, that was highly orchestrated and organised.
Brown couldn’t organise a p*ss-up in a brewery, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there was an attempt.
The thought that comes to mind is that parliament burns to the ground, giving Brown an excuse to invoke the Emergency Powers Act (aka Hitler). We keep getting ‘terror alerts’ etc, and it’s only a matter of time. Sure a ‘blogger’ will be found with a box of matches on his person, and his website explains that his objective always was to destroy the Palace of Westminister.
Good Point……….but I wouldn’t put anything past the cyclops
Let out of school early darling?
The fact is the man in the street loves a good filthy scandal so the longer this goes on the better.
The Aunt Maudes however hate the idea of voting for dirty dirty dirty Conservative politicians.
I take that you’ve sorted out your sister then??
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
This is tame amateurish stuff, son.
If you really want to wind up a Tory, go and spill his Guinness.
It isn’t possible for NuLabia to sink any lower… …is it?
Er – yes – stay tuned
I wouldn’t bet on it, dear boy!
NuLabia can sink lower than the whale shit in Antarctica
Christ, is all Labour party shit in red ink, talk about hard on the eyes, and I see they have a lovely little communist star in the middle of the ‘presentation’. I’m only surprised there wasn’t a hammer and sickle somewhere in it. Knobs.
And who doesn’t seem to know about CSS when designing a web page? Having all the text centred is novel — even for the points!
I suppose when you’re planning to disseminate lying filth, it’d be too risky to let a professional web designer work on the project. DD really does need to RTFM (read the fucking manual) although he could just fuck off instead.
There’e no filepath on the bottom of the illiterate piece of shite (is that how you spell illiterate?). My 3-year old daughter can do better blindfolded, two arms behind her back using a Fisherprice typewriter.
Mind you NuLab probably don’t know what a filepath is, they probably think it’s a driveway full of dead flees or a flypast by the Red Arrows….has to be Red comrade.
How fascinating, although depressing, to see a document riddled with spelling, punctuation and syntactical errors. Whatever happened to “education, education, education”, I wonder. Should we really be expected to entrust the nation’s future to a bunch of wallies who don’t even know how to deploy the possessive apostrophe with any accuracy or consistency?
Harrumph!
You split your infinitives.
In Labourspeak an apostrophe is a cock-up which is not yet a catastrophe
Ha ha. You ain’t got the front to tell Albert that under your real name though. Pansy.
Must dash – these Red Bull-cappuccino’s don’t relax you.
There are no split infinitives in AMB’s comment.
Who cares?
no he doesn’t. I put it to you sir, that you’re a Hoon!
Maybe he “spilt” his infinitives – clean that up immediately you dirty boy!
Who wrote this illiterate, sloppy shit? It would disgrace a GCSE project. Pathetic, too. My local WI is sharper and more media savvy than this sad bunch. (No offence, ladies.)
What does this sentence mean? Stories are That’s it. That’s the whole sentence. Maybe it’s a socialist existentialist mantra or something. Stories are. Stories are.They just… are.
The writer talks about a ‘nexis’. What’s a nexis? Can you eat it? Where do I get one?
” I spin and lie therefore I are ” Nexis of Rhodes 310 BC
I dont remember a Nexis in Rhodes..unless she was that nice waitress at Fotos’ Bar.
ref. Thompson Holiday LastMinuteBreak Dec.2008.
Stories are……. are there more stories that were to be published??? They know what they were, now they know that Gf knows about them too. More botty burbing I think.
“What’s a nexis?”
The Nexis of Evil
What’s a nexis? Can you eat it? Where do I get one?
I think a Nexis a car – perhaps the one Lord Mandelboys was wizzing round in the other day?
“nexis” where is Robert Robinson and old Frank whats his name when you need them ?
Maybe someone should stand against Brown representing the “Nexis” party !
Nexis? Is it not a “maritial aid”?
Nexis what hedz sit on silly!
A nexis is wot Hitler did to Czechoslovakia in 1939, innit ?
Judging by the comments, I think I’m just very glad I didn’t bother reading beyond the first couple of paras of the Briefing. Is it as hit as ever? Really that good? A new high for NuLabour then!
Remember the good old days when Labour placemen could advertise their views online without Guido’s interference.
“Who actually cares about Martin Sixsmith? Does anyone seriously believe that anyone voting in last week’s elections gave any thought to this dragged out affair? The press always need a petty and insignificant story they can resurrect from the grave whenever there’s a dull patch in the news. In 2000 it was the Dome, in 2001 it was foot-and-mouth, now its Stephen Byers. If Byers went it would not be a victory for democracy, but for the trivia obsessed press. The fact that the Tories are still going on about it proves three things. Firstly, what an embarrassingly incompetent opposition the Government faces. Secondly, how out of touch with public opinion the Conservatives are. And finally, that they have nothing of substance to say about anything else. Byers is actually starting to make a real difference in transport and regional government. Taking back control of Railtrack will perhaps turn out to be one of the best decisions the Government has ever made. Tory Transport Chief Theresa May still hasn’t been able to lay a finger on him. Judging by her performance today I think will be sacked long before Byers ever is.”
“Byers is actually starting to make a real difference in transport and regional government ”
Very funny..
Has he now become a bus conductor?
Stephen Byers is no relation to Firsttime Byers is he ?
Is this twat related to Massimo Belardinelli a FICTION ARTISt?.
An ideal SpAd for Bouncing Balls.
Looks like yopu are on to the mother lode here , Guido.
Why would The Tories want to offer any opposition? They’re doing very nicely as things are.
OMG Tights !!!
Are you sayin that the whole system of politics in this country is beyond repair an that their motivation to do the right thing by us has been skewed beyond all recognition an that these dimbos enter politics for the wrong , selfish reasons an that service is the last thought on their tiny minds ????
© E x .
Yes.
“Remember the good old days when Labour placemen could advertise their views online without Guido’s interference”
Nothing stopping the lefty twats putting out what they want online.
Don’t expect it not to be laughed at though, or do you prefer to stifle all opposition, like the lefty twat you are?
I love this bit – the implications made me ROFL:
“..there would be supporter organised campaigning.
Obviously this would be a major development”
Some real meat again – good
And a real hoot too.
The whole newspeak Sir Humphrey style of this is an absolute gem. Is this the way they have been governing the country these last 12 years? No wonder we are in a mess. What an absolute load of plonkers.
And as for this – “We also need to ensure Ministers are featured on online forums, such as Mumsnet, money supermarket, Treehuggers etc. ”
Well what can I say. For the first time in my life I really wish I was a pregnant mother.
Just bring it on you “ministers” I hope the lovely mums of Britain blow them the raspberries they deserve.
There is little chance that the BBC will let rip at the use being made of them on say the Daily Politics.
But its clear – we have a labour plot to set up sites with fake independence. A deliberate attempt to hoodwink the public. all in a days work for the biggest liar in British political history.
If the poll speculation is true and not just a puff then Labour are shockingly cut adrift and rudderless on a lee shore.
‘If you are going to tell a lie, tell a big one’
Favourite phrase in the uploaded briefing document is “This requires …… the activation of old stalwarts like Simon Buckby, Ed Owen and David Clark.”
Are Simon Buckby, Ed Owen and David Clark (names I confess not to know) really that robotic that they require “activation”?
Oh well, I suppose if they can sleep at night knowing they serve some purpose.
activation? – yes, they’re all dead
Cameron has called for an election this June to co incide with the european elections. Do you think Brown will take him up on it ?
He may have no choice! If they are booed wherever they go…
Get to it chaps
You really are an odious, nasty little Hoon. Fucking Tory scum.
Takes one to know one you obnoxious socialist twat
What upsets you most… the truth? or that that little probem you have between the legs that means you have to take your anger out online?
lol – did you have one of those Red Bull-cappuccino’s as well?
The cracks are beginning to show….new batch of Nokias is arriving tomorrow.
Piano wire for you Draper/McBride/Pride.
You want a socialist government ? – then fuck off and go and live in Russia.
We are taking this country back.
It started in america, tory boy. Gerald Celente was interviewed on RT ‘couple of days ago and he is going to organise a revolution himself rather than just talk like he does. A very interesting video on utube. He describes government together with corporatism as a facist regime. It’s worth watching anyhow.
Gerald Celente sounds like a twat and so do you.
I’ve just read that Draft New Media Strategy document – what a feeble pile of old cobblers written by some borderline dyslexic. It would be funny if it wasn’t so dismal – sooner they are all permanently buried the better.
Just done the same. If that’s the best Labour can do for a strategy document it explains an awful lot about this useless government. If anybody had presented such tripe at my work as a “strategy” document their career would be cut off very quickly.
I have a strategy document for the present government
GO, GO NOW
how’s that?
Go! Now! Go!
- gives a better impression of a completely fed up electorate shouting at NuLabour.
Moody Blues??
Moody Blues
Try reading some of the turgid twitterring on Liebourlostit…. the children have proudly taken over the asylum.
Ambrose silky knickers why does everything you say feel so stupid, eeuuugh and slimey? Iz it coz u iz thik and kant c that labor iz finnish!
“I know how to finish off Guido Fawkes…arrange for me another one of those really tough interviews on GMTV”
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgcf77v2_122hdmn26v2
Spelling mistakes all over it, and these are the people running (or perhaps ruining would be more apt) the country?
“over local campaign organisation. On this model, alongside CLP officers and agents there would be supporter organised campaigning. Obviously this would be a major development”
So they went looking for Dolly to be the man to deliver. hahahhahahahahahhhahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahaha
A bit like sending for, “Bicyclerepairman”
Yes…. except this brief is the culmination of 5 months effort – the Guardian reported in July that he was back in following a personal chat with guess who Gordon…..know nothing……Brown…..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/jul/16/labour
“He volunteered to work for the party at a brief meeting with Gordon Brown and David Muir, Downing Street’s director of political strategy earlier this year. The job comes at a time when Labour is trailing in the polls and is also more than £20m in the red.
Draper’s appointment looks like being controversial…..”
The back half of his head seems to be missing, but at least he brushed his hair for that pic.
I think their basic problem may lie in the words ’supporter organised’ – what supporters? and ‘organised’ – not a word that resonates among the deadbeats of Dear Leader’s fan club.
Just as a matter of interest, is the document’s author listed in the file properties? Usually, clicking on Properties in the Word menu will show you date created, last edited and author. It would be interesting to know if the person concerned was employed by Party or Taxpayer, particularly as they seem keen to promote the posting of content on the ‘independent’ LabourList.
No, it is carefully blank.
Guido, O/T I know but there is still a problem with corrupted text in your postings. Often only half a line is visible. I do not have this problem with any other sites. Also, other Guido fans have reported the same problem. Can you get your IT expert to look at this. (I hear Dolly may be available just now??)
Best regards Ian New Delhi
I have the same problem. I know it’s not the answer but as a work-round, if you highlight the text, it becomes readable
TQ
Use Mozilla Firefox as your browser and you will be able to read it fine!
Likewise here. Using IE7 (not out of any personal preference. For some reason Firefox doesn’t seem to work with these mobile ‘broadband’ dongles.)
Refresh works for me(IE7) , but it has got worse recently.
Another vote for Mozilla Firefox. IE sucks.
Had the same problem with IE7. Fine on IE8.
Ditto…
Stuck with IE6 at work which makes a real balls of the page after the first few comments.
Opera for me every time.
Works perfectly with Chrome.
The Draft New Media Strategy document says it all. If this is the NuLab approach, it is doomed to be still-born. All planning and control, the very antipathy of the successful blogosphere. It’s an individual thing, not a party thing. Especially not the thing of a central control and planning party.
And even when individuals create left-leaning blogs, they have a tendency to spew the party line, with much overly detailed analysis and long, socialist-sounding words; nobody but the faithful ever reads them and nobody, including the faithful, understands them.
Pity. The blogosphere stands for open debate. We need good left-wing blogs. We don’t have any.
Maybe they have nothing to say.
Socialist blogs are frightened to allow the free and open debate we cherish on this one. It’s all part of their genetic control-freakery – they know their policies are complete shite so spend all their time trying to cover up the fact. I seriously doubt that any of these lefty creeps will ever get a blog together that will come anywhere near this one, even if they throw shedloads of taxpayers’ cash at it, like every other problem they encounter – or create.
This blog doesn’t appear to be ‘right-wing’. Looks quite normal to me.
They seem to have great difficulty with the idea of anything being “free” or “unfettered”, unless “free” means “paid for by someone else”….
So what is this mystery “New blog” dated for launch on the 12th Jan?
I think Dale was right…..Guido has been on media training.
Much more professional!
Keep up the good work…..a new dawn is rising…..(isn’t it!?)
P
Just read the Labour briefing doc (strategy it is not)
This section may well provide us all with hours of fun because you can bet your life Labour won’t be able to set this up in a secure way!! In fact it will have DPA breach written all over it!!
“Campaign tools: We can implement some of Obama’s vision. For example, the party is developing software that would allow supporters to find numbers, receive a script, make calls and note responses from home”.
http://www.tangentplc.com/tangent_creates_online_phonebank_for_labour
Tangent? Pff. Who needs ‘em?
The Party is developing the software. (Every picture tells a story.)
Presumably the people i/c of that are those i/c of the NHS database, the ID database(s)… all of which, if they were needed at all, could be done for a fraction of the insane spend (of my money) on inadequately spec’d IT crap by this ‘government’, NONE of whose members has ever done a job involving procurement and whose purchasing experience begins and ends with John Lewis. The IT consultants are making a killing while their techies are having nervous breakdowns at the insanity of it all.
You’d think it would occur to the former
Drapery department to outsource… nah. Sod it. Too tired.
Went & took look at the Tangent site. If it was my company, I don’t think I’d want to boast about doing a ‘big jobbie for Labour’ on my website.
Good grief… do they really use red text? How pathetic.
Derek couldn’t understand how to change the font colour on his computer back to black after the Title Page
Yersss……… it is, isn’t it? Mark me down as a senile old conspiracy theorist if you like, but having read the sheet…. Are you certain it’s not too cliched to be absolutuely pukka?
My prediction: Guido will win on penalties
The ‘Next Steps’ table at the end is particularly illuminating – “How we are going to manipulate the media to go with the stories we want them to”. I wonder how the editors at those various MSM thingies mentioned think about that now – snigger.
But my favourite, given this was all supposed to kick off on the week beginning Monday 12th January, is the fact that we all know what happened at 6.30 p.m. on Tuesday 13th January, don’t we. McBride and Dolly should certainly remember. Which puts this ‘Content’ for the Thursday in ironic context: “Correcting some of the crap that has been / will be written”. Oops..
One redeeming feature is that it is better presented, more informative and (thanks to GF), more accessible than Peter Goldsmith’s “Old Damascus” fag packet.
These are the old Communist tactics of creating cutouts and front organisations. Labour should have stuck to its ban on Communists joining – letting them in really screwed them over even if it did provide the Living Marxism genesis of New Labour.
This party is on Trotsky’s rubbish heap of history. Brown has only a few months before he goes down as “the LAST Labour Prime Minister”…..he needs to be toppled so Ed “Smear” Balls can grab that prize !
Brown will also go down as the UK’s worst ever failure of a PM.
He probably feels the truncheon of history on his shoulder, right now.
Is it time to return Gordon’s clunking fist now the wife’s banned me from watching porn at the Taxpayers’ expense ?
Let Brown go down, we don’t want to be paying yet another useless Labour twat an unearned pension pot out of our money, the fewer the better! Say what you like about Thatcher, at least she was value for money!
Judith Symes, Conservative Candidate in Bootle in 2001 and Brighton Kemptown in 2005. She defected to the Labour Party in September 2007, just after Gordon Brown became Prime Minister. She explained her decision by saying: “We have had ten years of record investment in public services and the highest employment ever, as well as a new prime minister who was the most competent chancellor, creating stability and a growing economy.”
“Believing that as I do, I clearly cannot honestly remain in the Party. I do not intend to leave public life. On the contrary I am looking forward to joining another party with which I have found increasingly I am naturally in agreement and which has just acquired a leader I have always greatly admired, who I believe is entirely straightforward, and who has a towering record, and a clear vision for the future of our country which I fully share”.
Quentin Davies MP for Stamford & Grantham(but not after 3 June 2010)
I’ve just wet myself laughing
Wasn’t it Quentin Davies who spawned the quote that “on crossing the floor of the house he increased the IQs of both sides”?
Two MPs NOT to vote for in the next election I think.
In case you want to help Guido,, Alex Belardinelli’s number is 02079256536
please do not give out my favourite Greek restaurant number..
on yer donkey Fotos…this is serious..
Should you really be posting his number on this blog?
I mean, I know we all want to hear more about smeargate, and we all want as many heads to roll as possible… but this guy has only been implicated by inference and speculation – hasn’t he? Surely putting his phone number on here just leads to accusations that GF’s readers aren’t behaving as admirably as they could?
I wonder how many prank phonecalls and messages he has by the end of today.
If I were Guido, I would remove that comment.
But, I’d phone the number too.
I agree. Best not subject him to prank phone calls. E-mail the bugger instead
alex.belardinelli@dcsf.gsi.gov.uk
Heck, why not fax him as well? Not an exhaustive list of spads, I’m sure, but if you’re bored, why not have some fun?
http://www.eurosource.eu.com/engine.asp?showPage=body&Body=23324
I thought that, but if you google Alex Belardinelli, the number’s right there – first google hit. So, hardly a secret.
Yerright it’s not his personal number and they have chosen to put it on the web.
I have just called it and ordered a Quattro Stagioni with extra cheese.
Will let you know the outcome in 30-45 mins time.
Quatro Stagioni ? I bet they end up delivering you an Audi Quattro which they’ll put through on expenses.
top down control of blogs that are supposed to be “independent”.
after 12 years in government, labour still haven’t learnt how to deliver via any other means than faking achievement.
I think is time we had an enquiry to assure us that mcbride acted alone……..
‘and the building of a variety of “extra” party, “independent” initiatives’
Holy fuck! “independent”…
The last section is entitled “The ask:”. The author(s) has obviously gone to a bog-standard comprehensive.
Part of The Ask seeks, “A commitment to blog on LabourList especially in Launch week”. That would be the LabourList that Dolly Draper keeps banging on about its independence from the Labour Party structure would it?
Anonymous, every 12 year old in Miss Green’s English class at my bog-standard comp could produce better grammar than that bilge.
‘The ask’ is fundraisingspeak, that’s all. Who is going to give us what.
I wonder who funded Raas Claat?
Clearly, they don’t know their Ask from their ….. ( answers on a postcard to Dolly, please )
I have just read the bilge in that bloody awfully scripted document. (The damn thing is almost unreadable.)
I noticed these lines under : “Party strategy:”
“Data-capture: building on the party’s existing work to gather the e-mail addresses of Labour and floating voters.”
“For example, the party is developing software that would allow supporters to find numbers, receive a script, make calls and note responses from home.”
It seems to me that “Big Brother” has arrived big time. It rather sinks the mantra that: “If you’ve nothing to hide, you’ve nothing to fear”.
That will be this…..:
http://www.tangentplc.com/tangent_creates_online_phonebank_for_labour
Thanks Pilly, seems you got a bull’s-eye with one dart, there.
we know what you are going to say next…
I don’t.
I don’t, either.
Anyone watching Panorama on the Dept of H&S mania for control over our lives?
The ghastly Judith Hackitt (sic!!) is SOOO New Labour. “It’s all for your own good”
How on earth did we end up in the grip fo these control freaks
Because the average IQ of The ‘British’ is circa 80.
You voted for them 3 Times. Hoon.
@silenced.
Apparently an alsation has an IQ of about 70.
Where is toenails Robinson tonight? Still the jock bird doing the politics on BBC 1 news.
Look it’s his first day back – he’s “buggered off” at 4pm and left the girl in charge again and much better at it she is too .Don’t hurry back – Nick !!!
Nick is currently dining at my favourite greek restaurant
Brown Nosing.
Exploring the opening er vacancy at no 10
Hes busy moderating on his blog.
For moderating read “heavily censoring to bring into line with government guidelines”
I guess he can’t bring himslef to say anything negative about McSnot? or is it that his scriptwriter (McPoison) has been sacked he doesn’t have anything to say?
Nick was obviously “off message” early this morning
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8007000/8007612.stm
No, that is already old news therefore fair game, he then looks impartial and people think he’s not doing Labour’s spin when he then tries to bury the story beneath the steaming turd that is the budget
Well she’s better looking than old slaphead Robinson. at the very least.
Toenails is still being briefed by Brown’s gang after his fortnight’s holiday.
The document read like something done for the school magazine in a very average Comprehensive. Littered with errors of spelling, syntax and grammar, I almost suspect the hand of Prezza, as this is the style he speaks in.
But the killer phrase is near the end. “The Ask”, the fucking “Ask”. AAAARRRRRRGGGGHH. I hate that phrase, I hate it almost as much as I hate the scum who are in government at the moment.
“Well, yeah, basically, it’s a big ask. I mean, like, we’re trying to get a bunch of total, like, idiots, to, well, basically vote us into government again. Scientists have told us, like, at the end of the day, that no humans could be that stupid. So yeah, as you said…….
ad nauseam
Back to the nursery, woman.
we all agree with this post.
what are you doing later sarah??
6th. Form Above average grammar school (Wasting your time there)
Begin a sentence with a capital letter. Proper names have a capital letter to start. Your punctuation is crap. Don’t let your libido run away with your psyche, or you’ll suffer from premature ejaculation all your life.
**Giggle**
I could of done better than that , hun x .
What ARE you doin later , petal ??????
© E x .
Discussing the works of Plotinus, his possible influence on the Rhineland Mystics through the works of Psuedo-Dionysius the Areopagite……
Ah, feck it, I’ll be necking a few glasses of wine and watching Ashes to Ashes.
I hope you all still respeck me (sniff).
@ Sarah
“I hope you all still respeck me (sniff)”
Verily!
It;s a big ask but nonetheless..
…it’s doable.
Unlike the TwoHomes Secretary who also has a big ask but is definitely NOT ‘doable’….
Terriul gramer. They should have put sumthing like this : ‘Could I lend off of you’. Thats better innit.
Don’t you mean “they should of”?
Alex the SPAD is up to his neck in Smeargate. What is the bet he will be set up as Ball’s patsy? Watch out behind you Alex!!!!!!!!!!!
You can have him on loan, until this stink blows over.
Yvette says he is a useless prat cleaning our second or is it third home.
Tactical voting one step further on this time – who is more likely to get the Labour candidate out? How would that go – come on psephologists, tell me.
Hope you will get the opportunity to discuss Alex B’s career building move to Child Poverty Action as its press and parliamentary office which he describes as ” adding a level of expertise to his partisan political credentials”.
Obviously, Mr Balls’s man.
Mr Alex Belardinelli is speaking for himself, as did the late Mr McBride.
I am the leader of the gang ( I am)
From the document:
“We also need to ensure Ministers are featured on online forums, such as Mumsnet, money supermarket, Treehuggers etc. Both as featured visitors and as regular contributors.”
But probably not Housepricecrash.
Actually, how would or could Labour go about parachuting Ministers in as ‘featured visitors and regular contributors’? Surely no one in their right mind would bring the Government into the fold on an independent messageboard.
Maybe Vaz will go on Asian Babes.
Can’t imagine anyone on Mumsnet (get away from my children you creep) OR moneysupermarket (we now offer a short blog from Gordon Brown on investing for the future) would want any of this Labour lot within a million miles of their site.
Er.. Why is my post at 6.04 “awaiting moderation” when loads have come through since? Gangrenous grammar? Strangled syntax?
and that one went straight through? hmmn.. testing testing, let’s see if this works:
The ‘Next Steps’ table at the end is particularly illuminating – “How we are going to manipulate the media to go with the stories we want them to”. I wonder how the editors at those various MSM thingies mentioned think about that now – snigger.
But my favourite, given this was all supposed to kick off on the week beginning Monday 12th January, is the fact that we all know what happened at 6.30 p.m. on Tuesday 13th January, don’t we. McBride and Dolly should certainly remember. Which puts this ‘Content’ for the Thursday in ironic context: “Correcting some of the cr!p that has been/ will be written”. Oops..
Testing testing (I’m editing out various words; 3rd time), let’s see if this works:
The ‘Next Steps’ table at the end is particularly illuminating – “How we are going to manipulate the media to go with the stories we want them to”. I wonder how the editors at those various MSM thingies mentioned think about that now.
But my favourite, given this was all supposed to kick off on the week beginning Monday 12th January, is the fact that we all know what happened at 6.30 p.m. on Tuesday 13th January, don’t we. McBride and Dolly should certainly remember. Which puts this ‘Content’ for the Thursday in ironic context: “Correcting some of the crap that has been/ will be written”. Oops..
Rather educational that. I can see how Guido’s auto-censor works now.
Your name means ‘I am the Infidel’ in Innuit. Should go through, though.
I’ve often wondered about my antecedents. My mum has never spoken of her youthful trip to Iceland again..
She enjoyed it but she thought the seamen looked frozen.
They have the strategy all wrong. What they need to do is find an ex-member who can pretend to be even handed and smear away to his heart’s content without implicating the party.
Maguire.
Doing that anyway!
Maquire works for ther Tories. Just look at the response he gets on his blogs
http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/maguire/2009/04/spare-us-the-hypocrisy.html
They’re leaving NuLabour in their hoardes since he started blogging
Why all the consternation?
The thieving bastards are finished…it’s only a matter of time…
Brogan’s back and he’s calling Balls a liar in a word of one syllable: ‘liar’.
PLUSNET users – those of you who couldn’t access Guido’s site inexplicably on Sunday, please sign up to the forum on the Plus net site and add your comments – I’ve posted a new thread on this in the ‘Your Feedback’ section.
I believe people from more than one ISP were unable to access this site, however it seemed to be a disproportionate number of Plusnet users.
Something fishy was going on.
Guido – if you’re reading, I’d appreciate it if you would be able to flag this issue somehow – I don’t think it should go unremarked, I have good reason to believe dirty tricks were in play (if you reply to this, I’ll email or text you about it)…..
Me too. Will certainly visit and let them have my views. Thought Fawkes had been, well….Fawked. Glad he’s alive and still kicking.
^ Update forum topic now in the ‘Community Support’ section. Others have asked the same question – no response from Plusnet yet…
I’ve commented over on PN.
Cheers View.
Don’t think we’re going to raise an official response.
Looks like we’ll have to raise tickets to force the issue…..?
Oh dear.
Plus net are not taking this seriously:
Here’s an official response from Plusnet:
“we have bought tin-foil at industrial wholesale and fitted black helicopter deflectors to the roof.”
I raised this here:
http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/which_isp/3620869-censorship-of-order-ordercom.html#Post3620869
They seem to think it might have been just part of a wider DNS problem, but note the Machiavellian suggestion from one poster on how to get the IWF to put the site on its black list.
I would have been ready to accept that.
What I’m not happy to accept is Plusnet’s consistently third rate treatment of their customers, especially with regards what passes as “support” or “customer service”.
The main reason I thought this might be sus is because someone on Plusnet’s inside I know personally said as much.
Well the newlabour cunning plan of ‘digital engagement’ has failed so its down to plan B, an even more cunning plan than the last and so cunning it couldnt possibly fail.
First rent a warehouse or three before the general election, then use all the data that newlabour ministers have ‘lost’ to make up fake postal votes and fake abestee votes, yeah itll be great, then in newlabour strongholds they can stuff the ballot boxes and get its planted vote counters to misread enough votes to make a difference, mmmm great idea.
Plan C is an alliance with the libdems!
The can’t spell ‘nexus’ – they spell it ‘nexis’ instead. Must have gone to one of those akadummy things or sumfing laik dat.
Spelling is not a high priority at the Wright Institute Poly.
you just have to laugh:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/apr/20/budget-alistair-darling-spending-cuts
why has no one been arrested for all of these budget leaks?
Budget Leaks were a resigning matter not so long ago
Before Brown!
But those were the days of ‘Honourable men’. I remember Conservatives under Thatcher (Hate her – as an engineer!, and Major). It wasn’t until Labour came in that I realised within a year that the Conservatives were otherwise decent honest people, doing the honest thing like resigning when caught being somewhat naughty!
Come T-B’s whiter than white crew, well – by 1998, it was already sleazier than the Conservatives!!
What’s impressive about this documents is the spelling mistakes, poor grammar, rubbish layout and total amateurishness.
It’s quite clear that they had no help from the civil service in writing it.
I bloody hope they didn’t!
http://www.crossrail.co.uk/pages/recruitment.html
Administration Co-ordinator.pdf – 38.7Kb
Mail Room Assistant.pdf – 36.8Kb
Facilities Co-ordinators.pdf – 36.8Kb
“Please note that the reference to the weight of the downloadable file does not in any way refer to the salary being offered for the job advertised.”
Only in the public sector…
“Taking on the role of Document Champion for the team.”
What the hell is that? Filing clerk?
Anyone have any idea what 38.7Kilobytes weigh? I can’t be arsed to calculate the number of electrons involved.
The document refers to “smart viral videos”.
Looks like that wish came true……
Brilliant.
Remove this immediately. It’s a terrible insult to Mr. Hitler.
Best thing I’ve seen for ages
More juvenile and inappropriate posts to The Red Rag You’re not elected Mr Brown
Somebody got mixed up at Labour HQ.
The motto for the Red Rag Website is actually the same as that for LabourList.
“Where cowards flinch and traitors sneer”
A very accurate description of New Labour to be sure
speaking of independance
Anyone up for a debate on Colonialism and Imperialism?
http://www.what-they-wont-tell-you.blogspot.com
It is bloody laughable, isn’t it?
Well, it would be if it hadn’t (invariably) morphed into what amounts to government-sponsored criminal activity.
” 3.
We also need to encourage and resource more people to blog and post in support of the party. This requires some bascic organisation of existing bloggers and the activation of old stalwarts like Simon Buckby, Ed Owen and David Clark.”
Er, guilty as charged, then.
Reads like a sodding (illiterate) polit bureau directive to KGB operatives ‘in country’.
Bastards.
Well – they have certainly made a bloggers breakfast of it.
… our effective use of new media implicitly conveys the message that we are a confident, modern, active party
Hahaha! Who wrote this drivel? Draper or McBrideofFrankenstein?
Mandelson denies media manipulation and smearing opponents are official Labour party strategies:
http://www.liveeverett.com/Portals/3/flying%20pig.jpg
Well, of course not – they’re just Labour Party strategies with no officials officially involved – officially, at least
IT’S IN THEIR DNA…..
Just seen Mr Brown on Sky, “we are INVESTING, for growth not cutting blah, blah”. I have heard this word INVESTING for the last 12 years. Can’t they give this NuLabour “speak” a rest, please. Just use words once again like “giving, injecting, increasing, adding to” I find it very scary NuLabour have been investing in things for the last 12 years and look where it has got us.
For investing read spending, they are simply misusing the verb as one might expect politicians to do. One invests in order to make a profit or generate an income, not to increase the number of civil servants.
The only things in which any of them have invested are second homes, and it’s us taxpayers who are paying.
Well their previous investments didn’t produce any dividend – in fact they lost all their original stake and more – £170 billion deficit this year, isn’t it?
I think I will be investing in a cup of coffee on the way to work tomorrow.
‘alongwith irregular “big-name” contributors such as (hopefully!) Neil Kinnock, David Blunkett and Philip Gould.’
you have to admit their sense of humour hasn’t deserted them
Guido-just ran away from the TV screaming-that fat brummy and his strumpet on the One Show on BBC1 just did an anti-tory piece on Etonian Toffs- Doing thier masters bidding and not even trying to be subtle.
Surprised this wasn’t a Labour Party party political broadcast!
Lots of “toff” mentions. And to top it off, it was by “writer” Toby Young, father of Michael Young, a Labour Life peer; no mention about his own toff routes of course.
I wonder if the One Show will have a piece about Labour and their career politicians who have never worked in a proper job, just for balance you understand.
Should be here soon – http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jzjzf/The_One_Show_20_04_2009/
Elvis Costello was on too. Dont mind his early stuff but he’s been crap for the last 15 years. He treated us to his in depth views of US politics. Bush Snr no good, Bush Jnr no good. Why? Because they were Both US “toffs”. Hmm.
Saw that. God they’re all so bitter and twisted, what IS their problem?
I think they just hate human nature ‘cos in the lucky dip of life, they came from the bottom of the barrel.
Now online at the link above (about 2 mins in)
“so its 45 years since we had a proper poshy in charge”
“from Eton, who represented old money, gentlemens clubs, and inherited privlege”
“now, amongst half a century later, the conservatives are again being led by someone who was educated here, at Eton”
“well, for one, Cameron is more at home in Notting Hill…”
“have you noticed any change in attitude towards Tory toffs”
etc etc
Most biased piece I’ve seen in a while
This Toby Young?
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/3543331/leave-derek-alone.thtml
Good – shows how devoid of ideas they are. They tried this ‘toffs’ nonsense at the Crewe and Nantwich by-election – and produced a dismal result for them.
Yes, that Toby Young
I never watch the one show
I can never understand the fat brummy and his strumpet. Is nt it time the BBC added sub-titles ?
Also, is nt Fettes, where T.Bliar attended, allegedly the Scottish equivalent of Eton ?
Ssh, they’re trying to keep it quiet that Blair ever attended there. They’re afraid it’ll discourage people from sending their kids there.
However, in answer to your original comment, yes, I believe so, ‘Eton for war criminals’
Time for a rethink; of everything…
For years, the Labour party have been building up to being a herd of dishonest, corrupt and thieving crowd.
We may not have seen it coming in the early years, but the evidence is irrefutable – thay are just doing what they want, thinking they have the police on their side. If you take a stand, they push you over, and hopefully you will drop dead. Or they give you the baton treatment, or maybe the riot shield smashed into the head.
But probably the biggest thing they’ve had on their side is the British attitude of “Oh! that’s all right then…”
This “British attitude” is now over with!
If Gordon reads this, come to your senses man – fucking resign!
Well, sweetie. Between me and Gordy’s optician, we’ve heard the ‘master-plan’ and a quick blow says you are not going to like it. I’m up for a knighthood if I can keep a teeny secret. Byeeeeee.
Well, I’m up for a quick blow…..
What I want to see happen now is the Lib Dems beating Labour in the next few polls.
If Labour are consistently in 3rd place for any length of time their “it’s us or the Tories” argument will look increasingly weak and their support will got through the floor.
Guardain poll inexplicably has Labour on 30 – who did the pollsters ring up, the local council offices?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/apr/20/icm-poll-conservatives-ahead-on-economy
Tory 40, Labour 30, Libs 19
Fuck that. Better phone them up and see what’s what. We’re not a snoozepaper you know. Visit us at http://www.telegraph.co.uk and confuse yourselves.
It’s a wishful thinking poll on behalf of gruniard/BBC
I’ve been voting LD all my life.
The current bunch in power are a Godsend!
Fuck them (and I very seldom use this type of language).
AljaBeeba, fuck them!
Try this – http://www.tpuc.org/stoppayingtvlicencefees
Interesting comprehensive list of 9 people who refuse to pay the licence fee!
Would love not to pay, but don’t want the hassle. Have better things to do. Don’t watch TV for anything much these days, except for the political programs (- remember last year QT had a questioner ask a question not previously entered, and was told to ask the question on the card – so much for ‘we don’t know what the questions are by ‘David Dimbleby’).
The Labour party has reverted to type as in the wilderness years of 1979 to 1997, before people got fed up with the Tories, it is totally split. This is not the result of trouble and strife brought on during 12 years in office, it was evident the minute they came into office. Blair and Browns’ names were hardly on their addresses in Downing street when their respective spin doctors got to work, the following 12 years has seen these camps scoring points of each other at the expense of the well being of the Country and its people.
Never has there been such a “bonfire of the vanities” and never before has a Country been laid bare so publicly at the altar of two such poisonous egotists.
The Fourth estate have played their supine part in this destruction of a once great Country preferring to peddle force fed lies and distortions as truths, claiming it came from a “reliable Government source”.
The final chapter of self destruction within New Labour is being orchestrated by the “Blairites” who will leak everything and anything like a sieve to destroy the “Brownites”. At this late date they know if the Country is to have any kind of future it has to be rid of Gordon Brown and they are willing to do this from within. They know a Conservative Government is better for the Country than the slow death he guarantees.
Guido, expect many more leaks.
Seriously, is it just a personality thing (I’m not for one moment making the assumption that any of them actually have a personality), or are there actual policy differences between the two camps?
You are right to assume none of them has a personality, almost all the socialists I have met suffered a charisma by-pass at birth (Tony Benn excepted but, the price he had to pay for this was; no head for business).
From my experience “Blairites” are Socialists who tax you until death and “Brownites” are Communists who will rob you of your private pension in life and tax you after death.
Hope this clears things up for you.
I can not express in words how much i hate Gaylord Mandelson.Can anyone help?
“Shit Splash”?
In the library with a lead pipe will do.
Brown/billiard balls/boot.
I hope the fucker dies….
He said today that he wants to end it all.
He’s a good liar. You can quote me on that.
Ha ha. Yeah chronic, since I’m still lucid, son. If his tiny weener was coated in The Colonel’s secret recipe of 14 herbs and spices, deep-fried for 4.25 minutes, stuck between two halves of a fresh and fluffy, but miniature bagette AND was still attached to the host, I’d still ask for my money back.
Must motor- I’ve got the munchies all of a sudden.
Kentucky Fried Mandy.mmmmm
And Kosher.
Death by Guido/…
DID GORDO STUDY SHAKESPEARE?
On Saturday I went to see Lenny Henry playing Othello (he was excellent).
The programme gives the following description of Iago:
“Iago is the treacherous puppet master who skilfully manipulates the action of the play, fooling everyone into believing he is honest yet planting suspicions wherever he goes.”
On second thoughts it applies to most of them -Campbell, McPoison, Whelan etc. etc.
Mandy was just on C4. What a Hoon. He did his usual rant about how Labour is the party for the future. Jon Snow did a couple of very half-hearted interrupts, but let the Hoon continue with his rant.
Mandy is such a fuckwit – please, someone, give us a party that speak to the people like we are not fuckwits.
I wonder if today’s politicians; if ill and visiting a hospital; would rather trust the opinion of their spin doctors, or that of a real doctor. They certainly seem to think that their guys know best about everything.
I’m sick of it. I’ll be leaving the country (again) for sure, as do-’mock’-racy is alive and well in this country where party politics is put above representation of the electorate.
You sound a nice boy.
I see pb have seen an ICM poll which still gives Labour 30%.You can fool some of the people all of the time…..
… and they are the ones to concentrate on.
Given the size of the Public Sector that’s probably as low as they’ll go. Sadly
Labour had the alternative comedy crowd chipping away at the Conservatives throughout their 18 years in government and may i say with the exception of ‘Bremner,bird and fortune’ the lefty smart arse comedians have been notable by their absence since new Labour took over.
Herald the new dawn of online communication and Labour have been wrongfooted.
I have found an online forum used by the 16-30 age group and my Avatar is a fat sleezy Labour politician who I use to wind up the other people on the site.
Short soundbites and persistant badgering by my ‘Character’ seems to get results and I can get a dozen or more young folk pissed off with Labour in one night.
People who otherwise dont read the papers or watch TV news are getting Anti Labour propaganda via an online forum of their choice.
Give us the link then.
Why should you have all the fun?
Isn’t this it?
Sorry Sharp knife I can’t be specific but seeing Mandy on ’second life’ got me a thinking.
The online gaming community have a natural born distrust of the ‘Establishment’ of which Labour are part.
UK last to get a game release, Labours fault.
Chaotic age Rating system, Labours fault.
Having to share the same platform as Europe and not the USA,
Labours fault.
It doesn’t take a lot to piss off Gamers.
“lefty smart arse comedians have been notable by their absence since new Labour took over.”
Eh? Marcus Brigstocke = lefty smart arse tosser (with a bizarre wedge-shaped head). Jo Brand = lefty smart arse cow. Russell Brand = lefty smart arse tosser. Jonathan Woss = lefty smart arse tosser (ok not really a comedian more a clown).
Most of the “Mock the Week” crew = lefty smart arse tossers.
All in all I’d rather watch paint dry than any of these dreary, self-obsessed, opinionated twats and their lefty rent-an-audiences.
If these people are comedians then I’ve left my sense of humour somewhere (end of Blackpool pier maybe).
Jo Brand? Don’t make me laugh.
Don’t hear much from (“controversial”)Ben Elton, these days, either. Funny, that.
I hope Bill Hicks was reborn this easter.
I don’t even understand what that Labour blah blah briefing note MEANS…Why can’t they talk in English ? Ridiculous people. No wonder they are going to lose the next election.
No need to worry, we are “investing” £100,000 to fund research looking into the way politicians speak.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/7213620.stm
OMG honey !!!
Politics is sooooo passé , dontcha know ?????
NastyLab will get back in coz they’re gonna save the world from itself an this blog will have some genuinely angry comment on it circa June 2010 , petal .
Fuckin laugh coz cryin is a waste of salt .
© E x .
You have got to love the drip feeding tactic. Let them lie themselves into a corner and then expose all of their devious and corrupt practices….
Except Watson. He says nothing. Perhaps he is smarter than the others. Not that that would take too much effort!
nope he’s quiet ‘cos he’s got his dick in his mouth. at least I think it’s his dick.
I see all the ‘extra’ activities were to have been initiated in January, when McBride sent his “brilliant” email instructions to Draper.
Just seen the Red Rag NZ site as linked above at 1 / 185
Looks like a suitable euphanism for THE Red Rag site should be ” Mooncup” !!
Guido, lets run with this one it’ll kill the site stone dead….if it’s not dead already
Oh, I thought this was the real site. Harriet Harm-man is giving one of these http://www.redrag.co.nz/node/185 away to every woman who votes Labour.
Smart Balls!! Can’t Wait for him to lead the Party with references such as this
Ps.-Denis & Rhinelanders, eh? Mechthild and her Fliessende Licht, ‘n shit. Silly mare. Wall that Harman up with Henry Suso as her spiritual director – brass-tack underpants, and he never took a bath…
@Mantellone,
Suso is probably too good for her, but on the other hand, he didn’t take a bath for 25 years. So, walled up for the final 5 years?
Lord Desailles – the moral mask has been ripped off – end quote, Randall putting it to Mandy.
And Mandy ducked.
Lord Desailles just ripped brown another arsehole on LBC.
“- the building of a variety of “extra” party, “independent” initiatives. But this hasn’t happened naturally….”
And we all know why that is – don’t we children?
I thought you had been prosecuted…
Nah, haven’t you heard? The judge let me off ‘cos I’m innocent really. Unlike the new Liebore spin machine.
Guido has friends within the Labour Party. How many? Who can say? Though even if it is only one, it’s a safe bet this is more than Gordon Brown has…
Gordon is fucking everyone, not just the UK citizens – Obama, the French cun.t, Ahmadinnerjacket, Greece, Italy, Greenland, The Faulklands, Cyprus, Emperor Ming, Romulus, Harry Potter, definitely JK Rowling…..
The fucker is unstoppable, unless we stop him…
Do Zanuliebor usually use red ink for their briefing notes? Or is it produced by squeezing – what in my schoolboy days we would have called – a vampire’s packed lunch?
In 1989, on the 60th anniversary of Jim Connell’s death, Gordon Brown unveiled a commemorative plaque at Jim Connell’s residence at 22a Stonton Park, Lewisham, south-east London.
http://www.irishdemocrat.co.uk/features/red-flag/
Of course Jim Connell wrote the song The Red Flag with the famous line
“…though cowards flinch and traitors sneer, we’ll keep the red flag flying here…”
The very same theme line to Draper’s Red Rag web site.
http://theredrag.co.uk/
GORDON MUST BE SO PROUD.
[...] 20 April, 2009 · No Comments Here they are…and yes we stand behind Guido in his hours of travail. Hope he’s watching his back. [...]
In 1989 on the 60th anniversary of Jim Connell’s death, Gordon Brown unveiled a commemorative plaque at Jim Connell’s residence at 22a Stonton Park, Lewisham, south-east London.
http://www.irishdemocrat.co.uk/features/red-flag/
Of course Jim Connell wrote the song The Red Flag with the famous line
“…though cowards flinch and traitors sneer, we’ll keep the red flag flying here…”
The very same theme line to Draper’s Red Rag web site.
http://theredrag.co.uk/
GORDON MUST BE SO PROUD.
“May Contain Nuts” is on TV tonight . A documentary about No. 10
keep going guido.i want to see them dragged through the streets.
nasty depraved lying parasites one and all.
The Labour Party is the worst thing ever.
I’d rather vote for Meerkat domination.
Alexander it’s not compare the meerkats.com it’s compare the smearetwats.com
Simples
I apologise to the sorry of the extreme. We learn the language as the best I can, but one can only learn so much.
btw, how much moreness of the liebour excrement should we learn?
No wonder they are struggling to set up blogs – look at the layout of the briefing document. It seems to be set up to make it as difficult as possible to read. Bunch of amateurs.
They wanted to launch a ‘bloggers’ breakfast; but instead only managed to lauch a dogs breakfast…
Keep at it Guido.
I’ve just had another look at Guido crossing swords with Draper and it really hits home just what a disingenuous little swine he was.
Some people try to be tall by cutting off other heads.
That Draper chap with his bully, shouting over conversation tactic is straight out of 1970s union chief style, Scargill etc… an instant turn off to people of 50. Don’t these guy learn.
Is it legal to collect email addresses of “floating voters”? how do you know if an email belongs to one, perhaps they intended to go into spamming big-time.
Josef, the legislation probably hasn’t caught up with this yet.
We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office.
Aesop
I couldn’t give a fuck about all of it.
It seems you could blog yourself shitless – what difference could it make?
What will be, will be.
A General Strike against these bastards is what is required.
Everyone quit work for 1 day.
Fuck them.
Or quit for two days. Just like the good old days of Callaghan’s “muppet” government and the 3 day working week…..
…and the uncollected rubbish piling high in the capital, rats everywhere. power cuts, 30% inflation, empty pubs coz nobody had any money, the UK going cap in hand to the IMF only to be lectured to… happy times, happy times.
Aye, nostalgia ain’t what it used to be. And if you don’t believe me.. .stick around.
Ah yes, I remember it well, Dr Nick. I was young and foolish then, I’d even helped vote them in
I thought after that there would never be worse PM than Sunny Jim. How wrong, how wrong
Don’t fucking pay them, ever. It’s not rocket science.
“It seems you could blog yourself shitless – what difference could it make?”
Ask McBride and Draper – they’ve had the shit blogged out of them.
Re Derek Draper’s ‘Absolutely totally brilliant’; email who is the person referred to as WALTERS?? Guido – are you chasing that one up??
—–Original Message—–
From: Derek Draper [mailto:derekdraper@............]
Sent: 13 January 2009 18:56
To: Damian McBride
Cc: Dodgshon, Andrew; Whelan, Charlie
Subject: Re: Rag [UNCLASSIFIED] [Non-Record]
These are absolutely totally brilliant Damian.
I’ll think about timing and sort out the technology with Andrew this week so we can go asap.
Do we want to tip off anyone about Red Rag having set up? Walters? I could do it and say LabouLlist had been sent the link anonymously.
PS Don’t forget LabourList Damian!
Sent from my iphone:
That might be Walter Wall-Carpeting (paid for on expenses).
Dear Derek
Don’t you think that Red Face would be a better name for a blog with hindsight? Lets roll. Over.
Regards,….
Or even Red Raw Arse.
They have been shafted until it hurts.
“who is the person referred to as WALTERS?? ”
Simon Walters – political editor of the Daily Mail – seems most likely: Oborne and Walters wrote a book about Alistair Campbell.
Invest in loss, develop the centre, and simplicity exist on there own terms, are univeral, and available to all. Neither the left or right, or top or bottom has a lock on them. The biggest challenge isn’t seizing this transendant agenda that journalists like Martin Kettle call for but letting go of failed ways and the past.
The Taoist-Buddhist-Stoic tradition has occupied this territory for a long time and in many parts of the world. The body of literature and examples of its success are what the French might call an embarassment of evidence. Meanwhile, pundits highlight how acknowledged experts tread water while desperately seeking the next big thing.
Britain is slightly pessimistic – a depressed country. A slight tilt towards positively embracing the talents and value of other people can cut a different path but that involves letting go. Management empowering workers? People being kind? Unemcumbered by pretence we are more able to discover opportunity, success and, maybe, answers.
We might not be able to change the world but we CAN change ourselves. The Zen-Taoist-Humanist-Judaic approach has tought us this if nothing else.
Wow, is this the genuine Charles Hardwidge of Nick Robinson blog fame? I have always wanted to bask in the warm aura of your blistering insanity but the Beeb keep censoring my comments!
As you have a close personal relationship with old Nick, maybe you could elighten us why he diappeared for two weeks and returned with no mention of the smeargate scandal?
“Old Nick” indeed! ROFLMAO! That made me laugh. Nick may be a bit of a leftie, but he’s certainly not Satan. Mandelson or Campbell I could well believe are manifestations of Lucifer, but Toenails? Nah, he’s just a poodle.
No, Nick is not a poodle – poodles keep their hair.
Actually Nick was off work while we borrowed the lenses from his glasses to help us explore the farthest reaches of the known universe.
I’m happy end the conspiracy theories- Nick was working with Channel 4, reprising his role as the Bear off “Bo’ Selecta”.
Former Labour Voter
Faust let a poodle in and found it was Mephistopheles. In fairness to Toenails however, I think that analogy is more appropriate for the politician known as Bush’s poodle.
Vescere bracis meis
He’s resident crackpot on Labourlist now.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t appear to have ‘tought’ you how to spell Charles.
I guess the twin moons on your planet must be in alignment again.
Back here on boring old Earth the evil fucking Brown’s reign of idiocy continues.
“Invest in loss, develop the centre, and simplicity exist on there own terms…”
Has somebody given a monkey a typewriter?
This authoring entity labeled as Charles Sandwich is a true master of meaningless non-specific shite.
There is no spoon
(We had to sell it cause the pawn/porn shop went bust).
Watch it, Herr Hardwidge. I happen to live in Zen-Taoist-Humanist-Judaic Approach, at Number 22, and I don’t care to have my address bandied about in public.
Otherwise your argument is deeply fascinating. I have cut and pasted it into a Word file so that I may absorb its wisdom at my leisure.
More please.
And the cow jumped over the moon.
I’ll go for the Judiac approach only if I can crucify some of those feckers!
Not just our own MP’s gorging themselves here in the UK.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8008994.stm
It’s great to be proud of what we export to the EU.
Ieyasu Tokugawa, Baroness Scone, Steve Jobs, and Gordon Brown have similar personality types. They’re usually the innovators, team builders, and profit centres of nation states and businesses, and are often successful entrepreneurs. In contrast, people like Cameron usually preside over nation states frozen by tradiiton and failing companies, and their personal success rarely rises above being a bag carrier. That’s the science. Whatever mesage the Tories are trying to peddle doesn’t wash by comparison. It’s not credible on the most rudimentry level so is merely an old wives tale to scare the gullible.
Cameron’s own party know he’s a thickie which is why the Tory grey hairs are pulling his strings and the likes of Hannan are positioning themselves for a potential leadership battle after the next election. The idea that the likes of John Major will be returned by proxy or the voter will be conned by an implied “Vote Cameron Get Hannon” campaign doesn’t look like a step forwards but more like a giant leap backwards. Cameron is a busted flush and the Tories aren’t telling people the whole truth just so they can get elected. But power for the sake of power isn’t a good enough reason and is morally bankrupt.
Guido,
You have the full support of http://www.what-they-wont-tell-you.blogspot.com
:)
Ha
You have more info than guido!
Rob, do stop coming on here just to spam your own blog, there’s a good chap.
It’s totally derivative – nothing new to offer that I can see.
- and I counted at least six plugs last night when Guido was absent just on one page here.
It’s counter-productive, old bean
Just so, Sam! The etiquette of puffing one’s own blog, so egregiously ignored by Old Holbore, requires the blogger to do no more than link his URL to his display name (Rob, that means you put your URL in the little box marked “Website” — if you have enabled cookies in your browser you need only do this once); having done this, he submits a witty or insightful comment which so delights readers that they are drawn to inspect his own oeuvre and naturally become instant fans.
If you just post a link to your crappy blog and say “my blog is great, have a look everybody!” you will quickly become a figure of deep loathing. If you persist in this practice, expect a mob of villagers with firebrands and pitchforks outside your gate. They will rape your women, set your abode ablaze, and then, having hogtied you in barbed wire, make you read every word of the Daily Telegraph.
You have been warned!
ok mate
:)
Sorry for annoying you
What’s more annoying is to be addressed as “mate”. The smiley compounds the crime. Anyhoo, glad to see you have followed my suggestions so closely.
was that “extra” party initiatives or “extra-party” initiatives.
Feeling a bit philosophical tonight so maybe Derek should ponder this
faber est quisque fortunae suae
every man is architect of his own fortune
It’s a piss-poor piece of strategic thinking innit? God, I’d expect better from a junior marketing manager. I mean, where’s the analysis, the market survey, the timescale, the measurement and reporting?
Was this written by some sort of psycho therapist?
Well……… yeah !! Dolly did it all himself, on his own, without wifey.
Are you surprised?
This may or may not yield something of interest; the following link will show all of the other web domains currently owned by Derek Draper. Someone has to pay to get the list though:
http://www.domaintools.com/registrant-search/?all=Derek%20Draper&none=&timeperiod=current
Attention conspirators :
Please up the rate of contribution or we’ll either die of boredom or get too drunk to twiddle the knobs and dials. Ta.
P.S. Gordon’s a puff.
Wow. Check out this comment on the Guardian website…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2009/apr/20/surveillance-civil-liberties
The hack was pondering the extent of local council snooping and said…
“isn’t it a good thing that someone is trying to stop middle-class families with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement from fiddling the school system?”
One reply by a blogger suggested…
“The sense of entitlement felt by the middle classes has grown in proportion to the taxes paid by the middle classes – funny that. They pay through the nose and actually expect the services for which they pay to be delivered.”
The reply has had 111 ‘recommends’ so far.
The Guardian staff apparently think that Daily Mail readers have invaded CiF, rather than realising that their own metro-middle class readers have had enough.
The hack is a Welsh loon.
Thieving fucking taffies, they only come to England to steal stuff.
I recommend reading the comments. Some of them are intelligent and extremely funny.
But there is a point to be made;
The dead wood press is continuing to treat its readers with contempt and the readers have had enough.
McGuire in the Mirror. Readers furious.
The Telegraph making the Editor’s choice a smear on Guido. Readers furious
The Guardian correspondent getting what for. Readers caustically antagonistic.
If I was a newspaper editor and I wanted to keep my job, I would be asking myself what is happening.
Any newspaper that has the temerity to tell its readers how to vote could well be in for something of a surprise.
SIR- Fuck off you Moley plankton.
Comments are only funny if they come from within the DT community. By ‘community’ I mean employees of The DT. Since when did anyone outside of our bubble have anything interesting or funny to say?
Point proven. I’m on more money than you will ever see and I’m going to enjoy it.
BTW, we have some superb adverts at http://www.telegraph.co.uk. Come and have a squint. Chortle.
I only buy the Telegraph if it has Kate Winslet on the front or Bryony Gordon has written one of her insightful and hugely entertaining articles. Bryony is really, really brilliant.
“The Guardian staff apparently think that Daily Mail readers have invaded CiF, rather than realising that their own metro-middle class readers have had enough.”
Hehe, that’s only the half of it. It really confuses the other Grauniad readers too. It never occurs to them to go along to the Mail website and see what their readers are really thinking. Just as well – the Guardianistas’ “progressive” self-image would never recover from the shock of discovering how reactionary they have become.
Written by tossers for tossers.
Ive written my own piece on Labours leaked Media directive
take a look
http://what-they-wont-tell-you.blogspot.com/
Good insight rob
I concure reginald
Whats this all about……………………..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8008994.stm
Watched a utube vid of a dutch reporter who turnd up at the eu offices on a friday when meps arrived with siutcases.They were sighning in to claim cash then fucking off home.The reporter was escorted off the premises.
That’s a great video isn’t it? You can find out all about all of this stuff on Open Europe’s website, and sign up to their daily newsfeed. I’ve been taking that for years into my inbox – amazing stuff
“They were sighning in to claim cash then fucking off home”
I know of at least one (much revered in public as a near-saint, and now deceased) member of the House of Lords who used to do that.
For all I know, some still do. Ask their chauffeurs.
Troughing fuck pigs !
Gordo just been made to look a tosser on dispatches. Not hard to do but at least done.
Another job he couldnt do.
When I saw it was Will Hutton reporting I was loathe to watch it because, he is normally a “Brown-noser” but, it was a fair take and I can’t wait until next week when they shine the torch on Gordon’s “golden mile” and hopefully up his arse.
I see Blair if doing his utmost to cheat the jaws of hell by morphing from a lying murdering warmonger to a faith healer. Do you think someone should tell him it won’t make any difference how many hail marys he says, his ultimate fate lies in the hands of the 650000 souls ghosting the streets of Iraq, or should we keep it a secret and let the bastard find out the hard way, when he’s dead
Killing while stitching a sanctimonious smirk on its chops. What a loathsome turd that Blair is.
It is interesting that he left one noxious, authoritarian, bullshitting regime to join the worst of the lot.
Blair is a charlattan, a shapeshifter par excellence. In reality he has no principle or substance whatsoever other than what is expedient for him to gain power.
The man is a white collar psychopath
Although with Cherie washing them perhaps not so white
http://blairfoundation.wordpress.com/
Has anyone correlated the dates of McBride’s smearmails with the web events scheduled in the New Labour e-marketing programme for January? Does the covert have any complimentary relationship to the overt? Worth a look, perhaps?
yeah i think the same.
Drip, drip, drop
Little April shower
Beating a tune
As you fall all around
Drip, drip, drop
Little April shower
What can compare
To your beautiful sound
Drip, drip, drop
When the sky is cloudy
Your pretty music
Can brighten the day
Drip, drip, drop
When the sun says howdy
You say goodbye right away
Drip, drip drop
Little April shower
Beating a tune
Ev’rywhere that you fall
Drip, drip drop
Little April shower
I’m getting wet
And I don’t care at all
Drip, drop, drip, drop
I’ll never be afraid
Of a good little
Gay little
April serenade
Fucking beautiful, bambi.
The best I ever managed was ‘ Sunrise; wrong side of another day. Sky-high and six thousand miles away’ etc. etc. …..
Millions bought it though. Peace on you.
IK
Live to Win :)
“To be successful requires development both the party’s official capacity – and the building of a variety of “extra” party, “independent” initiatives.”
Wow what a scoop.Are you booked on Newsnight night yet?
Oh dear, chin up kids :)
ICM shows no “smeargate” effect
ICM’s monthly poll for the Guardian has topline figures, with changes from the last ICM poll, of CON 40%(-4), LAB 30%(-1), LDEM 19%(+1). The poll was conducted between the 17th and 19th April.
It shows a sharply different result from the two polls at the weekend, which were taken to show a big jump in the Tory lead. One of those polls was carried out by ICM’s sister company Marketing Sciences and I assumed it had been carried out using ICM’s methodology. If so the two polls are telling rather different stories!
Still not finished formatting your hard drive Derek?
“But underlying trends are worrying for Labour. In particular, the government is losing trust on the economy, while the Conservatives are winning it.
Asked whether they trust the Tory team of David Cameron and George Osborne, or Labour’s Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling, to run the economy, 45% pick the Tories and 35% Labour.”
It’s the economy, (profoundly) stupid.
What does it say when the popuation prefer a “novice” like Cameron to the man who’s been running/ruining our economy for the last 12 years?
Not a great endorsement is it? And that is despite blowing billions on growing the client state voters and trying to rig elections and smear opponents.
TOTAL FAILURE – CALL AN ELECTION
But why would Brown call an election only to lose it? Better to hang in for another twelve months and milk the job for what he can get out of it.
The Conservatives are doing well in the polls, but does anyone know what they would be voting for? No, they have no policies, so that is surreal!!!!
Can’t you fuck off on your gap year a day earlY? That would be surreal.
Kris Alienz
And Blair had policies in ‘97, did he? Labour never did have a policy other than to say or do anything that may gain an extra vote.
Nothing’s changed.
Dammit, I was more used to Nick Robinsons polemic, sorry, “Blog” Where he would only update once a week with meaningless, drivel and there would be far fewer comments. I must visit here more often to keep up.
As I have posted before, the red rag site was not just a private thing set up in people’s spare time. It was, in reality, the central tactic in labour’s general election strategy. After all, labour have NOTHING more to offer than smears and lies.
Where is Harman Pride when one needs to vent ones spleen?
he’s gone backpacking…or is that one of the other tossers?
Hi NewGirl I am off backpacking tomorrow and won’t return for at least three months, I will miss you and anonymous. Bye!!!
Travel broadens the mind. Good move.
oh dear what will we do for kicks?
but you’re going to miss it. and then you won’t be able to vote. shame.
**Yaaaawn**
Spose I’ll still be here if the hate mail don’t depress me tooo much x .
Fancy a no-strings 69 , hun ????
© E x .
Oh yes please Ewanme!
Your place or mine?
I can just feel the juices dribbling down my chin. And imagine the sweet & sour taste as I swallow the first mouthful….
Oh yes, No 69 – beef with brocolli and steamed rice, yum, yum!
LOL Doc !!!
I’m temporarily lost for words . You ain’t that subtle are ya ????Don’t matter , I’ll regain my dignity an find my tongue again x .
© E x .
P.S. Wot’s this thingy all about ???
Where is anonymous?
He’s BEHIND YOU
“Last week there were no left-of-centre voices featured – no one on our side had blogged!”
that made me laugh; it hasn’t occurred to them that there’s actually nobody remaining on their side anymore who can read/write.
Anonymous I am off backpacking tomorrow, I am heading for Thailand and Malaysia, so I will be off for three months, see you in August mate, I will miss you. Bye!!!!
Kris, when you were at Bogstandard Comprehensive, that shining beacon of equality and excellence (yes yes, I know the two are mutually exclusive), did you by any chance ever attend a class with a name like “Sums”?
No you aren’t Kris. You are required to stack shelves at Tesco, Wood Green as per usual. My balls never lie.
Mate, do you think you could deliver a small package for me to a friend of mine out there. It doesn’t weigh much and my pay at the other end will by you a large drink for your trouble.
We won’t miss you, pillock. Let’s hope that you get stitched up for drug offences in Thailand or kidnapped by communist guerillas in Malaysia. A Labour-voting back-packing freeloading wastrel. Says it all.
yes and kris alienz is proving your point nicely tonight
Bye New Girl Bonito Muchacha! Adios XXX
Excuse me but it doesn’t make sense to vote Conservativio but it doesn’t stop the plankton, don’t encourage don’t vote at all until we have a proper democracy!!!
are you not english? or just illiterate?
No, just a product of Shirley Williams’ comprehensive school expreiment.
Have you finished your homework?
i think kris alienz is pissed again
You’ve really got the hots for me haven’t you, see you in three months!!!
and Gary Glitter as got the hots for you.
dream on….
Hope the op & hormone treatment goes well in Thailand mate. Apparently the hoon looks the real deal.
when is guido gonna finish off gorbals? he needs sorting
You could fit in my rucksack?
yes but I’d rather eat my own vomit
“To use the nexis of new and old media to better convey our message and shape the media narrative.”
God, what a load of pretentiously management buzzword wankocity. Anyone who uses language like that is clearly surplus to requirements and ought to be shot.
Couldnb’t agree more Anonymous see you in three months mate.
Ha ha. See you at the fish counter in
Tesco, Wood Green, mate. Make mine a mullet, son.
Thailand’s on the brink of civil war and you’re going
there on your hols. right.
Stormforce, why oh why elucidate the guy now? Let the nonce find out for himself.
it doesn’t actually mean anything at all..
— and I though it was just me that didn’t really understand this crappy bunch of weasel words. Perhaps it was concocted by some wazzuck who’d been on a management training course. They come up with all sorts of nonsense at those courses.
The briefing document is balls-achingly illiterate. Par for the course these days, as the chickens of left-wing education orthodoxy come home to roost.
Go away, you boring mandy.
Be prepared for an imminent mammoth increase in public sector workers’ pay/pensions at the expense of the private sector:
“The government has been warned it is losing the support of public sector workers “in their droves”.” -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8008845.stm
when Labour see that even their core vote is going down the toilet, they’ll buy them back so that they don’t end up 4th in 2010.
(that £15 billion of savings isn’t real by the way; it’s just a “promise we’ll try and do better sometime over the next few years” statement and also uses double/triple-counting just like all their other “savings” – it’s not real money; it’s a fraud on the electorate)
See ya all, and Gary Gadfly I am glad your op was a success nobody would know mate, like the dress, do you share with NewGirl? I can count on you chinless wonders to vote Tory, well that what you do when you haven’t got the intellect.
Youth is wasted on the young. Thankfully not intelligence. Maybe you’ll learn summat out there son but I doubt it. You seem to know it all already.
i have heard of the “long goodby”,but this is getting stupid ,if you are going for…for goodness sake go ..
Haven’t you gone yet?
Fuck that- let’s have a street party.
Yeah why not, you up for it NewGirl?
why do i get the feeling that kris alienz promising to bugger off for 3 months is about as empty as brown promising an economic recovery….neither of them follow through
Because he got a twinkle in his eye?
IK
always up for a party, but find you reds nauseatingly earnest at them….you lot don’t even know how to have a good time, thats why you dead set on the rest of us having nothing to celebrate. luckily guido’s helped this last week…
Earnest? Moi? When I get back! Later!
bet you still here
Have a good time all the time. Or die.
David Beckham joins Gordon Brown’s team…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/5188807/David-Beckham-and-Andy-Murray-join-anti-malaria-campaign.html
well becks has always been renowned for his political savvy after all…
Brown and Beckham, two has-been, over-rated, attention-seeking, narcissistic spivs on the make.
at least one of em’s pretty though
Malaria No More UK
There has been no malaria in the UK for ages. Job done Beckham.
Easy to prevent and fairly easy to cure (I had it in Angola) but it can only be done with drugs and while these places are so utterly corrupt and any money spent there does not filter down to the street as it is syphoned off at ministerial level.
Throwing money at the problem will not solve it.
It hasn’t sorted the NHS.
If I changed my name to “Z None Of The Above” and paid £500 could I stand in any constituency of my choice and would my name be at the bottom of the ballot paper?
Would I win the election?
Do I have to have my snout extended if i won?
If lots of us changed our names to “Z None Of The Above” and stood for election could we all meet up and have a party oarty?
You might have to form a government though, given the disillusionment we all have now.
Does Derek Draper have a serious gambling addiction?
Hope not because he’s the unluckiest hoon (his missus excepting) whoever through the dice.
Maybe that explains where all the money’s gone?
He’s got a serious hygenie problem.
does he actually smell? has anyone been down wind and noticed?
and he’s a compulsive liar…
I hear he owes a lot of people a lot of money.
and a cocaine habit
I am the real Derek Draper and I would never tell a lie.
No that’s not it.
I am the real Derek Draper and I would never chop down your cherry tree.
No that’s not it.
Kate, Kate, what was I supposed to type?
He needs a fucking hair cut.
IK
He needs fucking…
It would be great if I could actually believe for one moment that McBride had really and truly lost his job…. But what with Mandelson, and Prescott (who astonishingly wouldn’t be budged from his office, after the Spring 2006 scandals)…I can hardly believe that McBride has really copped it. Sorry, but the way things are going, I reckon that McBride, whilst being ostensibly “sacked”, he’ll just carry on in the same capacity, in a “behind the scenes” manner.
Nu-Lab seems to be run like a cabal. If you’re one of the chosen ones, then you simply do not “lose your job” for any reason at all, until “the appointed time” has come. I mean, like, wtf is going on?
I’m only old enough to remember politics since the Thatcher years, and she re-shuffled her cabinet often, replacing the Chancellor and others several times. Yet with this lot, Brown was the immoveable Chancellor for 11 years, and it seemed like everybody knew in advance that he would succeed Blair as PM, there was absolutely no openness about it, it was a done deal right from the start.
Similarly, I really expected Prescott to have to resign after May 2006, but no! He just clung on, it was as if the normal modes of public opinion/political posturing just didn’t apply! I think it was this (the whole Prescott “thing” of Spring 2006) that first made me sit up and think, something rather odd is going on here.
I’d like to ask those with longer memories than mine, is this “normal practise” within the Labour Party? Was this the way things were done, with previous Labour governments in the 1970’s and beforehand?
You said it in your second paragraph, this is Nu-Lab. It has very little in common with the Labour party of years past, so it will be pointless to to compare with Wilson, Callahan. Saying that there does seem to be a spooky familiarity in the way its ending!
No, this practice of refusing to “do the decent thing” actually began under Thatcher with Cecil Parkinson holding on for quite a while after he “got caught” it was one of Maggies biggest mistakes not immediately sacking him.
Under this Government though this avoidance of responsibility is now de ri gour. wtf you have to do nowdays to be sacked is anybodys guess.
I think this has become the most unaccountable administration in British Political history. This explains Browns nonsense platitudes about “Taking full responsibility” but doing nothing as a consequence.
This shower do not know the meaning of the word Responsibility. They have disgraced the great offices of state time and time again and have refused to even countenance their resignation.
Labour = MISCONDUCT IN PUBLIC OFFICE
Like I said before, I take full responsibility, which is why I fired somebody else.
I’m allowed to be negligent, as are all my labour colleagues.
Negligence/idiocy is a good thing.
I’ve admitted it for years. I admitted last year that I’d only just that moment become aware that global trade existed, even though it’s been around for thousands of years, and yet you still allow me to run the country.
Hell, I don’t even understand basic maths, let alone economics, and yet you allow me to run up trillions of pounds of debt of your money without even having a debate.
Fuck me, I mean, I wasn’t even elected you useless fuckwits.
Now, I’m not too bright, but even I know that you’re a bunch of fucking mugs; why haven’t you started rioting?
McPoison-Bride of Frankenstein is being paid by Unite the Union. They have unreceiptable funds that can be paid for “lobbying”. Simpson of Unite has agreed with Brown to keep McPoison sweet. Simpson’s peerage next year (when he steps down as General Secretary) depends on it.
****Big nose Maguire is on the sky News Paper review at 11:30 with Andrew Pierce****
Lets see what the Geordie shit has to say for himself. I hope Pierce gets a few digs into the big nosed twat.
Andrew Pierce is one of those hoons on the Telegraph who spin for Labour. Damian McBride is one of his bezzy mates.
crikey, they’re everywhere
What do you expect with a useful idiot and Labour stooge like Patrick Hennessy?
but i’ve read the telegraph for years…and i like the crossword. Pants.
still got Heffer tho
Heffer? LMFAO! Journeyman. He would sell his granny to make copy. Crossword? Have you tried The Thicky? Fuck me. A five year old could colour it in.
well I;’m not 6 till friday so there’s no need to be rude
Maguire is fighting for his journalistic life. He’s teetering on the edge of a precipice.
Wait for next Sunday’s News of the World.
Maguire, Draper, Watson, even Nick Brown, they’re all up shit creek without a paddle.
He even gets a good slating on wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Maguire_(journalist)
Don’t pay too much atention to that. We just make it up as we go along.
God he’s odious, so ferking self-satisfied. I nearly punched the telly in, with all his shoulder heaving and smirking. I long for him to get his come-uppance. Sky certainly did a good job of avoiding picking anything really interesting off the front pages. Hoons
Of course NOW that theredrag.co.uk (aka Derek’s Folly) has attracted so much publicity … oops … been discredited, there should be no problem posting as much dirt as Derek … oops … “Ollie Cromwell”, can shove onto it.
Shovels and red flags all round!
has draper twittered/blogged since this all came out?or is he keeping a low profile?
He’s not keeping that low a profile. I hear he was chucked out of the Westminster Arms again last night for getting pissed as a fart, screaming abuse at other customers, throwing up, goosing a (male) customer, and, finally, making a large puddle on the carpet.
I’m told it was quite a performance even by his standards.
oh fantastic…please let all that be true..
He has standards?
You can’t blame Dolly if he wets himself in public. He’s only following Gordon Brown’s example.
What? A bit like Hell’s Angels pissing on a Prospect?
Except Hell’s Angels have more class obviously.
Read the breifing document. It is illiterate, vapid, risible, rubbish. What on earth are these people on? Cameron’s got nothing to fear from this lot.
I’m sure Maguire will try to spin on Sky News
Evening from Ecosse.
SNP on 34%
Lab on 28%
Cons on 18%
Libdems on 15%
For Independence 38%, against 41%, undecided 21%.
In terms of leadership:
Wee Eck (SNP) 60% approval
Aunty Annabelle (Conservative, blue stocking) 30%
Elmer Fudd (Labour’s latest Westminster glove puppet) 10%
Tavish the Mad Islander (Libdem) 5%
You will have also failed to note down south that the SNP spring conference was the only one that was well attended. Labour hired a hall to seat 3,000 of their Scottish apparatchiks and only 400 hundred turned up to listen to Brown of whom 100 hundred were trade unionists protesting at his Darling’s stupidity. The Libdems met in a phone box near Murrayfield with space left over where the phone book used to go which rumour has they sub let to Tommy Sheridan – News of the World Party (the one that looks like he’s been ‘Tangoed’ just once to often).
The media, of course, chose to ignore the SNP as it is actually meeting its manifesto commitments, for example reducing the cost of government in Scotland by £500 million a year so freeing up funds to build affordable housing (£95 million) and other projects. The Scottish press gives headlines to a Labour apparatchik report on the failure of education which the spin has as the SNP’s fault, yet folk ask – just who ran Scotland for the 50 years up to May 2007; na, it could nae hae been Labour, eh?
So dig away Guido. The sooner this bunch is gone and the Tories are in power the sooner some of your posters problems with Scotland will be resolved – cause we will be offski!
Why wait?
I would be aff now but it seems that Westminster doesn’t want us scrounging, subsidy junkie, unemployable, Rab Nesbitt clones (aka Scots) to go our own way – ‘Call me Dave’ and Maggie Brown keeping on talking up the benefits of Scotland remaining the last colony of the British Empire. Their latest scam is a £500,000 junket of Labour and Conservative pals under the guidance of Maggie’s pal Calman. So far they are up shit creek without a paddle as they can not find any evidence to take powers away from Holyrood (which was what Dave and Maggie wanted). They have even baulked at giving planning control over nuclear reactors back to Westminster.
So why are the pair of them so keen to hang on to us numpty Scots no matter we don’t want to and the English would be happy to see us go?
Couldn’t be they are reliant on Scotland for oil revenues to pay for the London Olympics or electrical power to keep the trains running out of London Bridge, the lights on in Oxford, etc. – could it?
Cannon fodder SAPOR. They want our boys to sacrifice on foreign fields that are forever England.
That doesn’t answer the question. That tells me why Westminster wants Scotland to stay part of the Union (or why you think they do) but not why the Scots don’t for it now instead of threatening it all the time.
Ah yes I recall that labours Justice spokesperson in Scotland recently attempted to attack the SNP administration over the appaling rise in knife crime. Thing was the stupid cow didnt see the relevance that the figures were actually taken over a 10 year period. And who was in power over those ten years ?
Yep Labour, this is the sort of fuckwittery that we expect from the labour party up here.
Interesting stats for the approval ratings – add up to 105%.
Did you inflate the SNP figure a small bit, hope nobody’d notice?
Speaking of blogs and the Labourgraph, Benedict Brogan, former Chairman of the Lobby, has resurrected his blog.
He starts by calling Ed Balls a liar http://tinyurl.com/dah92a
Give ‘em hell, troops
You want us to actually go there and check it out? Fuck that.
liking it
“in meetings” Belardinelli used to work for Tom Watson before Balls became an MP
If Scotland becomes independent, that’s the end of Labour in power in England. For ever.
That twat Hadrian shouldn’t have installed a wall, but a zipper. Then we could detach Jockland and let it float slowly, slowly away …
I’ve nothing against the Scots but I do wish you’d all just leave England alone. It’s not so much ZNL as the Jockracy that’s done for us since 1997.
You bastard, my sides just split reading that!
Yes brave Englishmen, Alec Salmond is our last best hope for independence for England. What if we could vote SNP south of the border. Perhaps he should seriously consider putting up candidates in the home counties.
If they put up candidates throughout England and got a majority at Westminster they could pass a bill to make Scotland independent. Probably power would go to their heads though – wouldn’t you rather run the UK than Scotchland? Then we’d just have swapped one lot of jocks for another.
Did we invent the zipper as well ? Maybe not but we invented quite a lot which you English can hand back since its tainted with us “Jocks”. You can be so fucking stupid at times its not about nationality, you moron!
“we invented quite a lot ”
Such as?
Prudence are you on the wind up or are you as fuckwitted as your question suggests ? You can be forgiven however if your apparent utter utter ignorance about Scottish sucesses in Medicine, technology, science, engineering etc etc is due to a pisspoor education in the nulab schooling system.
Bildad – as you write, the Scots are digging a channel to join the Tweed to the Eden so your wish may soon be granted. The plan is to float off towards Norway taking all the oil and gas and electricity we supply to keep Northern England and Northern Ireland comfy and in work.
But shhhsh, Bildad, don’t tell anyone or Call me Dave and Maggie Brown will be up here with a giant stapler to stop it happening.
Fucking cut them off where it really hurts them. Nah, not behind the sporran- stem the supply of blood to the leech. Fuck me, I’m nauseatingly ambivalent but I’ve a clear conscience. It’s painless. You pay them and then you fucking moan. You are all hypocrites. Shut up or put up. Nothing will change unless people stop puffing into the wind and actually do the only thing within their power. Fucking stifle the monster. You feed it. Ooooh Dave- we don’t want to go to prison. Fuck off you ponce- you are already in prison. Dave- we don’t like breaking the law. Tart- they do, all the time. Take your lead from them. What fucks me off is people talking revolution and then lying on their backs with four legs in the air. You deserve what you get because you are very simple people. Enjoy more of the same – a lot more. Sweet dreams.
why would scotland want to become independent ??? if it does it lives by the EU and despite all alex salmonds posturing about the need for independence , when he will swap westminster for brussles.
the union has worked very well , despite the socialists best attempts to divide and rule .
what amazes me is the cost of it all and the future costs , devolution has not created less government expense , it has livend up historical language and history , but we all to have live the economy and the markets reflect the industries that parts of the uk can do best , scotch beef is loverly , welsh lamb ,whisky goes all over the world , the union acts as a stabiliser for the markets with premium products having exports.
scots would be nuts to think that with non oil based energy just around the corner by becoming independent they would be better off . Eu contributions would soon start the tears.
besides i doubt that some sort of sectarian problem wouldnt cause more voting dirty tricks than labour could muster .
it would be real progress for scotland to come off labours ball graps , ime all for that , weve had enough of the wasters in this part of the UK , but denyng the union isnt a force for good is just being selective on revenue sources and not talking about markets .
ime part scottish myself , to me Edinburgh is lovely place to visit i find glasgow a bit scary but its alright if you know a local, why turn it into some sort “piss off non scotts ” place ??? its like everyones forgetting that we shared the best and worst of the industrial revolution together .
proud of scotland , you bet i am , worried that new nessie is being created that will devour more tax payer money , ditto
It seems to be getting closer to Snotgobbler McTwat with every day that passes.
This morning’s Guardian Poll shows that Brown has failed to restore public trust in government. In the wake of the McBride affair, only 13% of voters say he has succeeded. An overwhelming 82% say he has failed and 67% of them are his own Labour supporters. Trouble is the bastard needs a bigger push than almost universal unpopularity to bugger off back to Kirkcaldy, if they’ll have him.
Nope – Maggie Brown will have to go somewhere else because his coat is hinging on a shoogly peg in Kirkcaldy. There’s a wee problem next door in Glenrothes to do with a sudden upsurge in Labour postal votes that won them the bye-election. Luckily the Glenrothes electoral roll and voters register for the bye election has been misplaced (aka lost deliberately) so no one can check to see how many I P Knightly’s Labour had voting for them.
So I guess no surprise here in Scotland that a local London Labour Constituency Party’s vote has been rifled through to ensure the ‘correct result’ then.
Reading about the Erith fiasco, from what I read today in – iirc – The Spectator though it may have been another, it would have been impossible for Gould’s rivals to have got at the ballot box – it was in a locked room at party HQ. It’s rumoured that the ballots may have been ripped up by her own faction to ‘hide the evidence’ of stuffing. Now we shall never know!
I see militant cyclist and ex-employee of the Pedestrian’s Association Ben Webster has scuttled round to Whitehall for his latest ’scoop’. (An age old deal were Bendy Ben gets the news first and The Times guarantees the front page).
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/news/article6136213.ece
“The speed limit on many A-roads will be reduced to 50mph under plans aimed at cutting the number of road deaths by a third.
Drivers also face limits of 20mph in residential zones, random breath tests and tougher fixed penalties for offences such as passing too close to a cyclist.
The proposals for ten-year safety targets are to be published today. It will be the first time that the Government has set a specific target for cutting road deaths – by at least 1,000 from the current 3,000 a year.
The default speed limit on single carriageway roads is likely to be reduced from 60mph to 50mph, with councils obliged to give good reasons for retaining the higher limit. It would become easier for local authorities to reduce speed limits on all residential roads from 30mph to 20mph. Councils would be under pressure to cut the limit to 20mph outside all schools.”
Note: The total number of deaths in road accidents fell by 7 per cent to 2,946 in 2007. 1443 were in cars. Pedal cyclists and motor cyclists represented 5 (147) and 20 per cent (589) of those killed respectively.
So how do we ’save 1000 lives’ each year by lowering the speed limit, when the Police’s own figures show just 5 percent of accidents – and 12 percent of fatalities – were caused by ‘breaking the [local] speed limit’ ?
In Labour’s heads car driver=looney libertarian/Tory voter. This is their pre-ejection gift to Cameron. A lovely dividing line, daring the Tories to put the limit back up and causes untold carnage etc etc.
Not also that the new average speed cameras will be expensive and lots of lovely fines will need to be handed out to pay for them. Funny also that this story should appear just after Jaqui has told councils to go easy on surveillance…
Richard Littlejohn: Ray Collins has form in ballot rigging story (third article down):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1172181/LITTLEJOHN-We-need-election–Budget.html
Maguire on the spot on Sky News. What a turd.
Maguire ‘claiming’ the Tories are nervous of the polls. What a hoon.
Maguire as got goverment cum dribbling out of the corner of his mouth.
Loathsome creep. I hope someone kippers him and soon, the hoon
Paxo gave Mandy a good wedgie tonight on Newsnight. Mandy looks depressed; the poor love.
Depressed, and the poor love is ageing quickly and losing his hair! Ah diddums! Perhaps it’s down to all his nastiness and scheming behaviour.
Evil personified = Dame Mandelslime.
“.. a good wedgie ..” Is that a bung or a backdoor delivery euphemism?
Maguire on Sky on teh proposed the 5% tax hike “my pay rise will cover it”
I am going to take a baseball bat to that smug Hoon.
Can I watch?
Can I join in?
Dont stand there watching……….. join in.
can i watch you guys, and play with myself?
I see the Lib Dems have launched a new Policy, they are proposing to make up the deficit in the economy by wait for it…..” a raid on middle class pensions!!!”
What stupid twat ???? I mean for fucks sake ????
Is this the most stupid suicidal policy EVER !!!!?
UKIP = Us Krooks In Prison
http://tinyurl.com/c5aatr
You mean Police= *iss off living in criminal europe
Oh, and I’ll add an other story to show you just how much Labour bends the law and reality to its own ends.
Recently, a traffic cop (yes there are a few left) told me that a motorcyclist had been killed on the A3 by an old guy who came up the slip road and crossed all three lanes without looking.
The motorcyclist hit the old gimmer and was killed. However the authorities (CPS?) wouldn’t let the cop prosecute the old pillock for dangerous driving, because the biker was over the speed limit at the time of impact.
So the accident is down on record as caused by speeding, even though it was caused by shit driving.
Don’t ya just love Labour? And aren’t you depressed by the idea that New Labour’s tendrils are rooted deep in public administration and will never be rooted out?
If a drunken pedestrian lurches in front of a car and gets killed, that goes down as a ‘drink driving death’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1172181/LITTLEJOHN-We-need-election–Budget.html
interesting re collins……
Right hook. ]
right hoon!
A trot can’t change its spots
Bloody Hell. I have just had another look at it -after finishing our evening meal- and all I can say is: Where the Hell is my red pen?
Poorly constructed, illiterate, badly designed. And potentially illegal in at least one part, re data harvesting…
Can some one explain why Tom 2 dinners Watson has a profile of George Osborne on his site (under the heading “Guides, lists and speeches”), this is as it is shown:
Guides, lists and speeches
- George Osborne
- Guides
- Lists
- Press Complaints Commission Code of Conduct
- Speeches
Also, what are we paying these guys for, has anyone found a use for this
http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2009/04/was-bob-quicks-resignation-the-right-course-of-action-to-take/
Plse note the thanks to David (bekham??) for the “graph”, mad or wot!!
Funnily enough…..
A Russian TV journalist has described her exasperation at living in ‘Big Brother Britain’.
Irada Zeinalova said she resents being constantly ‘spied on’ by security cameras, comparing the experience to life in the old Soviet Union.
She also accused the British of regarding themselves ‘the masters of the universe’.
‘Security has got absurd,’ said the award-winning correspondent in London for Kremlin-controlled Channel One in Moscow.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1172083/Russian-journalist-blasts-Big-Brother-Britain-compares-life-old-Soviet-Union.html
‘I don’t like that level of intrusion into my private life.’
The Russian hospitals are better than ours too.
I had to have hospital treatment when I was visiting Ukraine a few years ago.
In Chernigo, about 110 km North of Kiev I got an appointment with a highly competent consultant within 20 minutes of arriving at the Hospital.
X ray same day, but I had to buy the film at the dispensary and look for the right room using a cigarette lighter to illuminate the signs on the doors because there was a power cut.
Diagnosis same day, treatment same day. (Pus filled sinus), three further visits.
Achieved by a brown envelope containing dollar bills, ($50 if I remember correctly).
In this country we call it private medicine, not brown envelopes, and it would cost twenty times as much, take ten times as long and I would be lucky if the consultant spoke English and was even half competent.
This country is too Soviet for the Russians; they are a decent and brave people and they would not stand for what we tolerate every day, they would have taken to the streets years ago.
The G20 police would make them feel at home though.
I spent 7 years in the FSU. Of course you get the attention in hospital because you have USD so “wheel the foreigner in pronto!”. But most of the ordinary local people don’t and there’s no NHS so usually they get sick and die.
Six years ago in Georgia I met a doctor who told me she earned $25 per month. Things have improved but not a lot. Fifty dollars goes a long way out there and expats are golden geese.
It is pure bollocks for a Russian to complain of Big Brother Britain. I suggest Ms Zenalova is another Putin mouthpiece.
I vised Moscow in 1983, when the USSR was still limping along, no body stopped me taking any pictures. It wasn’t as bad as I’d expected (why did I expect it to be bad? Oh yeah, MSM) but the striking thing was I realised the UK was much more like a rich Russia than a poor US. I’ve never had any reason to change that view.
Truly it is a bit sad but true – Alex salmond is England’s best hope of having an English government in England so, in that spirit – Go Alex! Home rule for Scotland and Cry Freedom for England, err, Cameron are you listening my old Haggis muncher (expat, Norf London branch?) we really have had enough of the Glasgow mafia (Son of the manse/Arsenal supporters branch). Time to think how many points you could put on the polls with an English government for England’s people approach. Try it…..?
No you won’t, but it will be the big thing in the next election but one.
Stephen – the Welsh are not exactly singing Westminster’s praises either and are picking as many fights with Westminster as the Scots.
Blair has let the cat out of the bag with devolution and us fringe minorities like the idea of looking out for ourselves and see less and less relevance in Westminster other than it’s constant brown nosing to the EU and spending money on things we don’t want.
What? You don’t say Ankel, poor German fishermen, here’s 25% of the Scottish prawn quota – now you will vote with Gordon at the next EU summit….. You Danes, you need help with your fishermen as well – OK you can have all the UK North Sea sand eel quota, no need for swaps, have it on us – our lot will never know – we can count on your vote next time we need it?
And for those of you tempted to believe the recession
a) Started in America and/or
b) will all be over by Christmas, please read this:-
Online job recruitmemt falls to all-time low
like I saw in my blog, it is not very good. The pathetic attempt to link the freak Brown and the middle-aged party with a young, charismatic, black man is embarrassing.
The thing is, they do not understand the Internet. If you pretend to be be independent and it comes out as it will, it looks terrible, and it damages your cause.
they look tired and ridiculous
V funny posting on the Guardian Cif piece about the government snooping via CCTV…
Of course the Cadster is quite right…we need CCTV stop those pesky middle classes sticking their polished noses in the trough.
As it happens, I know a chap manning the CCTV camera around Thamesmead and Erith.
Only the other day, over a pint in the old Westminster Tutor, he mentioned that he’d personally tracked a crack team of middle class metropolitans intent on taking over the locale.
Apparently the team – who are currently being investigated – was made up of a family of known Metropolitans. You name it – Oxbridge graduates, millionare publishers and peers. They come from a notorious estate – know locally as Regent’s Park.
They came down to Erith mob handed with an associate from south of river (whose husband has recently been convicted of a big job in Italy) and a local enforcer who was mixed up in mysterious death a few years ago.
Word is CCTV tracked them as they knocked on local doors ‘looking for support’ and they were even caught with a van load of unseemly glossy ‘literature’ if you get my meaning.
Anyway, their scam is on hold while the authorities look into it.
But mark my words, without CCTV the Regents Park mob would have got clean away with that safe seat.
Seemingly the only one ever to be charged:
British MEP is charged with fraud
A British member of the European Parliament has been charged with false accounting and money laundering.
Tom Wise, 60, from Leighton Buzzard in Bedfordshire, was elected for UKIP in 2004 but is now sitting as an Independent MEP for East Anglia.
The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said the UK police inquiry followed a news report in 2005 concerning Mr Wise’s use of allowances.
Hat tip: BBC News 20 April 09
Labour still don’t get it, do they? They’re trying to battle independent blogs like Guido and Iain Dale with top-down crap like Labour-List – which might as well be a government press release. It hasn’t dawned on them yet that people, not nesseciraly right-wing, are fed up with this “spin” and want honest opinions.
Don’t they know their own supporters are deserting them in droves? At this rate the Lib Dems and others are going to poach most of their votes.
BBC Propaganda reporting Britain worst place in Europe for children to grow up in. BBC Propaganda add “The government have said the report does not take into account recent improvements”.
Average listener: “Well that’s alright then.”
Recent improvements? 12 years to get it right and “recent improvements”?
Gordon Brown, quote:
“I take full responsibility for what happens, and that’s why the person who was responsible (Damien McBride) went immediately”.
Read it twice: “I (Gordon Brown) take full responsibility”……he really is pathetic creature.
Gordon Brown also has a very dangerous and flawed personality bordering on pure evil…..once he realises he hasn’t got a cat-in-hells chance of winning the next election he will deliberately bring down what remains of the British economy (which he has disasterously overseen for 12 years) purely to ’screw’ Cameron.
He needs to be put in a straight jacket ASAP.
These are the diagnostic criteria for psychopathy according to Hare’s Psychopathy Checklist (Revised)
1. Glibness/superficial charm
2. Grandiose sense of self-worth
3. Pathological lying
4. Cunning/manipulative
5. Lack of remorse or guilt
6. Shallow
7. Callous/lack of empathy
8. Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
No wonder they call him the Prime Mentalist!. Whatever will he do next?
Groucho Brown: “I take full responsibility for what happens, and that’s why the person who was responsible went immediately”
That’s one of the best Groucho Marx oneliner I’ve ever heard:
“One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I’ll never know”.
But this is better:
“I take full responsibility for what happens, and that’s why the person who was responsible went immediately”
Gordon Bonkers RIP
What do you mean”WILL deliberatley bring down” he already “HAS brought down the British economy”
***********Breaking News******************
after the call for a third post mortem, the government have announced that he died of food poisoning – nothing to see here, move right along…..
Just a quick question, but if TWat son was not involved in the development of Labour’s digital strategy, including an attack blog, how come his own blog is full of links to Labour’s new media “spoofs” which you might take as misrepresenting the Tory position?
He seems pretty engaged in the issue:http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2009/01/digital-levelling-ways-to-meet-conservative-advertising-firepower/
Interestingly, when you look at the link, the address is: http://www.davidcameronseconomicpolicy.co.uk/
Now, he might see it as a bit of knockabout to register websites using other people’s names. I would like to know how he got to hear about the said link.
link http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2009/01/digital-levelling-ways-to-meet-conservative-advertising-firepower/
That site is not a million miles away from smeargate, 2 dinners should have been fingered too, lucky hoon?
Also, checked Osborne’s website and there isn’t a link to 2 dinners site. Typical Broon bully boy tactics, they are desperate to get Osborne aren’t they (I wonder who pushed and pushed and pushed the yachtgate coverage?).
Foreigners aghast at Britains police state!
http://www.austriantimes.at/index.php?id=12652
Brown’s premiership is turning just as I predicted in my book “Boom and Bust” written before he became PM. Contact me on nigel_bowker_917@hotmail.com for a free electronic copy.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/apr/21/damian-mcbride-whitehall-media-no10
So Tony Blair did a Jacqui Smith and involved the intelligence services, got them to trawl thru’ McBrides’s e-mail and phone calls because it was reported that No. 10 had been savaged in a private meeting. Christ – this lot have abused the system from day 1.
I notice some papers are trying to portray Blair as a victim – won’t wash – he is aas guilty and evil as Brown.
I think it was would be instructive to remind everyone at this point that Tony Blair is a Shapeshifter. Thank you
I’ve just seen this on the Sky News website….
Labour Bloggers Sign Anti-Smear Ethics Pledge
8:15am UK, Tuesday April 21, 2009
Ruth Barnett, Sky News Online
Labour bloggers angered by leaked emails containing untrue smears about senior Conservatives have signed up to a list of ethical principles.
Labour bloggers have written a list of ethical principles
Senior aide Damian McBride resigned after sending “inappropriate” messages about Tories to Derek Draper, who runs the Labour-supporting LabourList.
Now other Labour-supporting bloggers say they want to draw a line under the row by publicly pledging to behave in an ethical manner – although their efforts have already brought accusations of hypocrisy from opponents.
In a post called Our Statement Of Progressive Blogging, they pledge not to slur the integrity of their opponents without evidence and to promote tolerance and respect.
They also call for the Labour party not to try to control its new media presence as it will “inevitably fail”.
It has been signed by 21 members, including the higher education minister David Lammy, Will Straw, the son of the Justice Minister Jack Straw, and Jessica Asato, the deputy director of Progress.
Also included is Tom Miller, who has been accused of working with Mr Draper to find damaging information about rival blogger Paul Staines, who writes as Guido Fawkes.
Mr Staines told Sky News Online: “It is a bit late for him to be saying he decries the politics of personal destruction. Fine words contradicted by foul actions.”
LabourList’s Derek Draper
And Harry Cole, who writes the Tory Bear blog, said Mr Miller should not be “pious”.
“He has been at the heart of the LabourList camp for a while now and should be the last person, bar Draper, to be signing up to clean blogging pledges.”
Mr Miller declined to comment.
The ethics statement has been published on sites including Liberal Conspiracy and Change We Need.
Sunder Katwala, the general-secretary of the Fabian Society, wrote the blog post.
He said the Labour party had to “unlearn” its approach to new media and let go.
“I’m pretty sure Derek Draper won’t go back to LabourList,” he told Sky News Online.
“Command and control is a mistake as it can blow up in your face. That instinct to control is self-defeating.”
Sunny Hundall, who edits Liberal Conspiracy and is not a Labour supporter, said the authors wanted to “reach people outside the bubble” and demonstrate there are Labour bloggers who do not support smears.
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I think what they have failed to understand is that no one believes a word they say anymore. So they can pledge and promise till their eyes pop out, it’s just wasted air.
Latest real poll figures on PBCom:
“Mike has asked me to publish that the new Ipsos-MORI April Political Monitor has given figures of Conservatives 41% (down 1%) -Labour 28% (down 4%) – Lib Dem 22% (up 8%). – Morus”
http://politicalbetting.com/
The internet has become the effective opposition to the Government. It seems to me to be likely to continue in that role,whatever the composition of the government may be. I see a future in which the role of the official opposition will become very much secondary to the better sourced and better written blogs. I see the trend spreading to other countries, in some of which it will be fought mercilessly.
I see a day when one of my great grandchildren might brag to a pal,”my Great Granddad blogged on the original Guido Fawkes”!
From redrag nz. I wonder if Mrs Balls knows about this?
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“I believe we have to act urgently with interim proposals to restore people’s confidence that MPs are there to serve the public and not themselves. ”
Gordon Brown
Brown moves to reform MPs’ expenses
Last Updated: Tuesday, 21 April 2009, 15:25 GMT
- Search: MPs’ expenses row
Brown moves to reform MPs’ expenses
“The controversial second home allowance for MPs could be axed within days after Gordon Brown demanded an urgent Commons vote on reforms.
In a bid to calm a growing storm over taxpayer-funded Westminster perks, the Prime Minister pre-empted an independent inquiry by calling for a vote as early as next week.
Mr Brown set out his proposals to make the system “simpler and less generous” in a video posted on the Number 10 website shortly before they were formally published for MPs by Commons leader Harriet Harman. “