Do You Believe Your Own Eyes, or Kevin Maguire?
While Guido does have a detailed picture of the discussions held at Labour HQ, the attendees at the two Red Rag meetings held at Unite HQ are less loquacious. Look at the people at that meeting; Andrew Dodghson, Charlie Whelan, Damian McBride, Derek Draper were all copied in on the shocking smear emails as proposed by McBride. These are not people through whom the milk of human kindness runs. Charlie Whelan is not a bleeding heart known for his charity towards Tories, Damian McBride is the poisonous destroyer of Brown’s internal and external enemies. Derek Draper thinks it “absolutely brilliant” to attack the wives and lovers of Tories. Kevin Maguire is not merely a partisan journalist, he is an integral part of Brown’s spin and smear operation. Even after the existence of the smear emails was revealed, Maguire was still peddling innuendo from them about “Cameron’s alleged embarrassing complaint of a highly personal nature”.
Maguire has been touring the broadcast studios claiming that at the Unite meetings they just watched a few YouTube videos and discussed Obama’s online campaign strategy – the email invitation however says it was a meeting to discuss the Red Rag attack site. Do you believe Maguire or the written evidence?
Maguire’s claims are laughably implausible. Here we have a gang of the most vicious Labour propagandists with a visceral tribal hatred of their opponents, yet Maguire would have you believe they were merely singing “Kumbaya” around the Unite boardroom table. The meeting took place some five weeks before the infamous emails were circulated to four of the six attendees at the meeting. We know from Draper’s “absolutely brilliant” reply that they were almost ready to go live with the smear and spin site.
No email has come to light cancelling the project. We only have Derek’s word for it that they were going to abandon the idea for the site. The fact that the site was still online when the existence of the emails came out strongly suggests the project was not cancelled.
The explanations don’t make sense, if they were going to do something legitimate, why keep it secret from all the Labour bloggers at those Draper organised breakfasts? If they really wanted to try out new video ideas, wouldn’t Maguire’s own Mirror blog be the perfect place to do it? The only explanation that makes sense is that they wanted to keep it away from the loose tongued Labour bloggers.
When you have people like Draper, McBride and Whelan plotting in secret it can only mean they were up to no good. Maguire is bullshitting. He says it was innocent, the written evidence suggests otherwise. There is nothing innocent about Whelan, Draper and McBride…
Go for him, Guido.
Some BBC shit described Maguire as a “journalist with integrity”
Only on the scumbag far-left BBC could you get such biased tosh.
Difficult though it may be for Guido to comprehend it is possible to have an attack blog that attacks your opponents using legitimate means rather then smears or innuendoo
This in the Times, it ain’t over by a long way:
“Philip Webster, Political Editor
Gordon Brown will be told by one of Britain’s biggest unions today that Labour must stop wasting time in “childish venom”.
In the clearest warning that the e-mails smear scandal is now damaging his links with the union movement, Mr Brown will be told by the leader of the Unison public-sector union that its patience is running out.
Dave Prentis, the general secretary, will say: “The Government is losing us. It is losing the support and trust of health and public sector workers in their droves.” The country was in a mess and “we look to the Government to come up with serious solutions, not to waste time in childish venom”. “
Union tells Gordon Brown to end ‘childish venom’ of smears
That’s Whelan fucked then.
To Major Fawkes;
From Sargent Gunshop;
Subject; Public Hangings
Dear Major,
Thank you for the recent delivery of 1 mile of piano wire. This has now been tied as instructed and is now in place.
Please could you give us some indication as to the following;
1) The apporoximate date of the event.
2) The numbers of crowds anticipated.
3) Is there a park and ride being set (up as the car parking is an issue here)
4) What catering facilities do we need for the crowds. Shall we sell beer and is it OK for the wive to set up stalls (as you know Mrs Gunsgop makes a wonderful stew)
Thanking you in antisipation.
Sgt Gunshop
First, Britain has a second rate, third world goverment and a fourth estate that’s a fifth column as well as a parliament at sixes and sevens, lobby correspondents one over the eight and a brown shirt leader who can only say nein.
ok sorry i got carried away. I’ts a bit scary though when trade unions start to think a Labour Governent isn’t up to protecting them from reality
And also in The Times today, under the heading ‘The Labour Smear Machine has Backfired’ Rees-Mogg effectively says he doesn’t believe a word of what’s coming out of No. 10 and environs
what a tangled web
Yes, “developing” …
Absolutely Guido darling. It also begs the question of what all the hard working union members pay their subs for since it clearly hasn’t done much good for their job situations. One union leader is fond of hotel suites and I don’t suppose Toilets likes to slum it either. These pernicious peddlers of lies and innuendo have now also dragged a trade union into the muck so their members won’t get much sympathy – the fact that Whelan is their head of pr just confirms it. The leopard doesn’t change his spots and neither have this lot – they reflect their leader – Herr Braun!
Guido… I assume you saw the dispatches programme on Expenses….. Quite disgraceful to see Francis Maude MP tacking the piss as he had a house in London but decided to rent it out and get another one on expenses…
He claimed the maximum of somewhere around £20k… but pre-tax that would be about £28k…. thus about the average salary of someone in this country….
Others pretty awful too….
Especially ‘The Speaker’. What’s going on? A Labour Speaker with a Labour government, unheard of for a long time! Where is the Balance? (Not on his expenses account)
Young Labour, you should look into this and form your own opinion; not that told by your masters, be master less, be a voter, make your own mind up.
There was a stitch-up by the NuLab MPs in 97. Respected senior parliamentarian Edward Leigh was lined up to become Speaker – it is a long-standing convention that the Speaker comes from the Opposition and we had had two Labour speakers in succession. The incoming Labour majority decided to hold an election – unheard of – and put up Gorbals Mick as two fingers to the ‘Establishment’. This Speaker has been an utterly predictable disaster and will go down in history as the one who allowed Parliament to descend into utter corruption and graft, of which he and his wife have been part.
Their venality would be less reprehensible if they were holding the Govt to account, but they have never had the guts – or the intelligence. God help us all.
Or the will, Sam, let alone the inclination!
We can only hope every last guilty head rolls for this.
This story is running and running and whatever happened to feminism in the Labour Party?
can we see the emails please?
Utter Hoons.
Maguire’s own red rag leads tomorrow with the hasty decision to releases the files on Hillsborough. Nothing to see here, move along…
Yes, absolutely disgraceful. Let’s cash in on the sentiment of those poor people’s dead relatives – divert attention, anything but the real deal. Shows what Labour really are – just full of shit and piss, so much so they’re unable to operate anywhere above street level.
Not sure even that story isn’t just spin.
the Police have said they will look at possibly releasing ‘Some files’ not the entire files content as Jacqui Timney and Andy Shoutmedown have said.
Expect the final examination to be far short of the soundbite.
Much like Wednesday’s budget will be.
I know Bill….but the subject matter…..I just cringed. Has she no shame? I couldn’t get over it. You can just see the lightbulb in Mandelson (or whoever runs the show now….you just don’t know with LieBour anymore) pop up when the anniversary came along…rubbing their hands thinking ‘Great, let’s get that one on the move….’. Awful.
There has been an absolutely disgraceful story on the Mirror website full of smears about ‘senior Tories’ sex lives’ and some book which is due to be published ‘next year’ ie the memoirs of some Madam / tart. I wonder how much NuLab have paid her for all that? It’s smearing without naming any names. Reprehensible stuff
Thats a rehash/plagiarism of a News of the Screws done last eyar; featured Osborne as nice guy with Bullingdon friends, who did no drugs and sexing while his mates were up to no good…her words in the report. Maguire was asked on the radio 4 yestday why he had brought this out when it was old stuff…then spouted some rubbish as usual not answering the question put to him. Think the story was about during the Deripaska thingy.
Tories have embarrassing mistresses. Labour MPs have embarrassing husbands…
Wouldn’t believe Toilets further than I could throw him – which wouldn’t be very far.
Mandlebum now starting to look as though he is wearing shining armour which tells you how far this government has sunk. (I think he fancies Gordon’s job!)
If this lot only met to have a chat and watch some videos then I think Unite should ask Whelan what on earth he was doing to earn his crust and what he was doing on behalf of the union? It
Agreed. That Hoon is already at it – nothing more to see here, move along, etc. – it’s all over, lets concentrate on the Budget….what a lot of bollocks. How much more shit can this government peddle?
Did they claim for those videos on expenses?
I think we should be told.
You keep that powder dry, Guido.
Your theory that the smear campaign was still in countdown mode is solid.
I said it on Dale’s blog when you broke the story that I believe it was only the death of the Camerons’ son that postponed the launch of the smearsite.
Some might foolishly imagine that Draper and McBride demonstrated at least some semblance of decency thus. If so inclined, be disabused of that fallacy. They would have regarded the Camerons’ tragedy as a major inconvenience and a ‘timing issue’. Bastards.
Still outstanding, Fawkes. Keep going.
I doubt it was decency on McBride’s and Draper’s part that stopped them publishing the smears. How they must’ve cursed that Cameron’s grief prevented them from savouring the fruits of their vile imaginations.
The critical thing is the use of the word “attack” – and we know the unions bankroll ZNL…
Guido,
After the McBride felling……… rightly or wrongly we hope for a big fish to be shot each time if teased like this……
….. keep up the good work. Don’t oversell it though!
you’re right. not quite the calibre of fish we were hoping for I think.
you’ve set the bar so high we’re expecting a head on a pole with every passing day! (no disrespect to poles)
More cepahlic attrition please.
Give pole-dancing a whole new context.
Daily Mirror, the “newspaper” apparently closely connected with the covert campaign, via Maguire is running a “Tory Vice Sleaze” story.
Daily Mirror, the “newspaper” apparently closely connected with the covert campaign, via Maguire is running a “Tory Sleaze” story.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/latest/2009/04/19/vice-madam-to-name-four-top-tories-in-tell-all-book-115875-21288361/
They dont learn do they?
Tell the author what you think. His email is james.saville@sundaymirror.co.uk
That was an interesting beartrap that creates more questions than it answers. http://tinyurl.com/dbguov
Sorry the feeling lucky in LMGTFY used to eventually pop you out at top linked site (which was part of the point) as it doesn’t any more http://www.peterburden.net/archives/tag/natalie-rowe -
They’re Tories, if they don’t frequent a brothel at some point I’d want to know what was wrong with them…
Anyway, what’s the betting she can also name prominent Labour MPs as clients as well, but is getting paid to only mention the Tory ones?
Is that Jimmy Saville?? Now then, now then, as it ‘appens….
Jim fixed it for us. ZNL
I will not be featuring in Madame Natalie’s forthcoming expose (nor will my pet goat, Cedric) since I neglected to leave my calling card with Houses of Parliament logo, full name and constituency all clearly embossed.
If I had known this lady was able to predict who would be leading the country in 12 months time then perhaps I should have done.
Derek Simpson strangely silent on all this.
A decent man I
I’ve seen that expression, almost that face, before: here, top right. Mathias Grünewald, The Mocking of Christ.
Thanks Guido. I’m really looking forward to Maguires column tomorrow. One brave nutter has been the snowflake that started the avalanche. The Country is totally in your debt (as well as Gordon’s debt)
The country is falling in on itself and these clowns care only about themselves and there big tax-payer funded salaries. Every time I go out for a beer another friend of mine has lost their job or struggling for work. People are suffering genuine hardship or terrified about their future and these self obsessed fucks swan around talking a load of boy-mess and eyeing the chance of another term.
They are clueless, pocket lining, wankers who, to be honest, would not be fit to wipe the arse of Bevan. At least he believed in something!
Hear Hear.
Their time’s up. If not now, then next year. People are fed up with this – positioning, jockying, bollocks, smearing, farcial economic strategy and utterly clueless about how to at least create the illusion they’re not fucking the country up. Perception – so important in todays more savvy society, and they have no control over it.
What’s next? Oh yes, No Balls (McBride Old Relish favourite) trying to get his leadership campaign started, Mandelson trying desperately to shift focus away from the big issue (that ZaNuLiebour is rotten to the core and have run out of ideas) and JacqueBoots just running the same old game of ‘lets bury the news’ – that’s the one that’s really fucked me right off. Preying on the emotions of those with dead relatives all those years ago, yes, let’s release a report 10 years early and that’ll stop those twats that pay for everything in my life thinking about me for a few days….she’s awful, I wish some of the Met would cart her out onto the street and do a G20 on her. It’s all she deserves, thieving, lying snivelling fuck.
Hoon.
I wish some of the Met would cart her out onto the street and do a G20 on her.
Do you mean build her a climate home of tents and sit around her singing Coldplay or whack her in the face with a metal baton, while tazering her arse?
I have visions….and they don’t involve tents. Actually, the truncheon ought to do (her) the trick.
That is a terrible way to describe the Home Secretary!
Not enough swear words….
Who on earth would want to wipe Bevan’s arse?
Mmmm….. Nice scene.
That all you’ve got?
Dead Tree Media will be shitting itself.
Desperate. I hope you weren’t asking for money for that shite.
Are you the crass lefty wanker “Jimmy” who posts crap on Aunty Dales blog, or some other tosser?
Derek Simpson is strangely silent on all this.
A decent man I believe, I would like him to stand up and be counted, not necessarily in a “I am Spartacus” way, but I wonder what his views are, there is of course a union connection.
Simpson decent? behave. Jacqui Smith learned her expenses tricks by watching Simpson.
She’s another lying, snivelling shit. She wants truncheoned for her behaviour today – even if it was Mandelson’s idea.
Have you ever seen so many senior ministers in one government look and sound so feeble and completely unable to function? No capability to argue, no capability to reason – just filled with wind and piss and personal agendas. Spin and wait to be told what to say – how to say it – and when to say it. They’ve lost the plot – I really do hope Guido has something more up his sleeve to finally bring this fucking shower of shit of a government to it’s knees and be fucked off into oblivion for another generation.
Simpson? The 5th member of the Phoenix Four who bought Rover for a tenner?
You’ll have noticed that the non-appearing Government-commissioned report into the MGR collapse is four years in the making and millions have been spent.
There’s no way it will be released until summer 2010, because Gordo doesn’t want the embarrassment of Labour being fingered for forcing BMW to sell MGR to the four stooges, as well making BMW hand over £500m cash, 70,000 new cars and – a few months later – making BMW give them the Rover gearbox and engine plant.
Usual story – short term ‘saviour’ headlines. Medium term f*ck up.
Incidentally, a Commons committee started its own investigation into MGR and I submitted evidence. When the report arrived, it was about the car industry in general. Seems Gordo and Blair stepped in to prevent the committee digging too deep into the perfect New Labour balls-up.
C8nts.
I find it interesting that independent right-wing conservative blogs appear spontaneously but New Labour have to meet at the highest level to create an anonymous artificial lie-peddling blog to achieve ‘balance’.
Keep up the pressure Guido, don’t let them get away with their lies.
The thing with McGuire is that he isn’t even convincing. When you see the odious little runt on TV you can tell what he is….A Labour Party apologist.
Yes he reminds me of No Balls….useless, toothless and clueless.
Twist, twist, twist the knife,
sharply in the back,
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily,
isn’t this a craic.
Guido, was saying to the wife today that whats important is that Gordon Brown and The Labour party in general have destroyed our economy via a philosophy which is false and deceptive. Having said that most folks dont understand this as long as their house comes up to valuation.
So when some side show comes up like Drapergate, the massess get all excited.
This is but a trifle.
what is important is that Gordon Browns Political philosophy is a fraud, it doesnt work, never has never will.
But like I say the massess prefer something or other gate.
Labour governments always end the same…..in a complete shambles. It’s the whole ‘everyone is equal’ argument that harks back to the early socialist days. Why should the man who sits on his arse doing nothing all day be entitled to the very same benefits and breaks that people who put work into the country all day do? Doesn’t work. Human nature won’t allow it. And so Labour came more Central (Tory Blair anyone…?) knowing that the Left wasn’t a progressive way forward.
However, as we’ve just seen, yet again, they have come to devour themselves, factional in-fighting, greed, lies, despicable behaviour. New names and faces, but the same old shit. Seem to remember a lady many years ago having to take some unpopular decisions to get this country under way again…..and yet so many hated her for it. You can’t please everyone all of the time – but form shows Labour ruin Britain time and again. It happened on their watch last time, it’s happened again this time. 1997 is a long time ago boys – Hypocrit Brown oversaw the sharp practice of the economic players around him, was blinded by his own ambitions and has failed miserably in his attempt to become an effective premier. He’s arrogant, he’s foolish, he’s greedy, he’s lied and he’s a spent force. Embodies all there is left of his Party.
He can fuck right off. That cnut has ruined this country.
Under Chancellor Brown’s stewardship we effectively went from a repayment economy to an interest only one and it’s all turned to shit.
Politically too, we’ve gone from politicians with ideas and direction trying to see things through to hollow, headline grabbing bollocks that time and again was never meant to go beyond the perception.
O dear kevin is that your career, best say goodbye to it.
The strategy was clear.
1. Post smears on Red Rag.
2. Mirror picks these up and reports them – effectively legitimising them (and hence the importance of Maguire to the plot). This is why the Mirror blogs cannot be used directly.
3. With no proven link to Labour or No.10, the stories can be positioned as independent – i.e. none of the usual “sources close to No. 10 have stated…”
4. Other MSM pick up the Mirror ‘scoops’ and the smears propagated.
With the Mirror acting as the launderer/mediating layer, the hard part of the job is done. The conspiracy doesn’t need any explicit collaboration by the BBC or other fellow travellers because of the established process of uncritically repeating stories carried elsewhere in the MSM.
This can’t have been a freelance operation if the party Chairman was involved. At least one of Mandelson, Brown and Balls must have approved it, but unlikely there will be a paper chain – even they aren’t that stupid.
For the meeting attendees – they never needed to know the particular smears to be used – it was only the strategy that required their input and approval, and it is why approval of the strategy is somethoing that must be denied.
Lastly (and sorry to raise as not intended to be in bad taste), the launch of the strategy was only put on hold, or delayed (hence no evidence of cancellation) by the tragedy that afflicted David Cameron’s family. Proof of the despicable nature of what was being planned – a reasonable and decent political strategy would not have been derailed by this.
Fantastic, Dr Feelgood. Poirotesque.
Now, how are we gonna prove this damnable conspiracy existed – and was sanctioned, secretly, by Downing Street?
There’s gotta be a smoking gun somewhere, lying around in the Village undergrowth.
God bless the real, really motivated politico-bloggo-journo sleuths, like Fawkes.
And God help him if there’s no gun. And if a gun, no fingerprints.
I doubt there will be a smoking gun found. There will be a human shield surrounding the grown-ups (Gordon, Mandy et al.) to keep them safe.
However, if Guido keeps shaking their cage like this eventually they will turn on each other like vicious little ferrets and the truth might be told. We’re already seeing a bit of infighting between Mandy and Gordon.
You’re right of course, Our Ford. But I’d prefer the gun, so to speak
true, but what price being a human shield if the reward is public opprobrium, losing your 60K job (McBride – and did YOU know he’s only 34??), or being banished to leak to the Strathspey and Badenoch Herald (Whelan). these guys are nothing if not self-preserving and if McGuire thinks his next NUJ chapel is going to be the St Kilda Gazette he might start looking to save his own skin…….
also dolly draper will be broke and emotionally falling to bits anytime ….. soon. and he wasn’t taking his PC out for its evening constitutional for nothing……..
way to go Guido!
Oh, I think a gun will be found. Peter Osborne asserts that smeargate’s outing was instigated by the Blairite camp that are fighting to the death – with nothing to lose and everything to gain.
A persuasive article.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1171985/PETER-OBORNE-COMMENTARY-This-fight-death.html
spot on
Except if you are taking Natalie Rowe as the smear: Andy Coulson first published in Autumn 2005, then again in Oct 2008
Dr Feelgood is spot on. The core of all leftist political strategy is the demonisation of opponents.
Maguire has also revealed a paradox. In his notorious Mirror article he demonstrated himself to be a gossip mongerer by speculating on Cameron’s alleged illness. It is inconceivable that at the Red Rag meeting this salacious tendency was not articulated.
kevin maguire is a black magic satanist zombie who has sold his soul to the devil.
he knows he is going to hell so what’s another lie or two?
the only way to kill zombies is by blowing their brains out.
note to ‘motherfucker’ maguire: you are on the list maguire, you are on the fucking list you c’unt.
Doesn’t this comment fall under your (and I nearly quote) “inane and dumb as fuck” heading for the (and I nearly quote again) “comments made by ‘spastics’ that I don’t like” agenda you kindly transcribed for everyone else that posts on this blog?
You know what, ThickAsPigShit, I think it does!
“note to ‘motherfucker’ maguire: you are on the list maguire, you are on the fucking list you c’unt.”
I mean, inane and dumb as fuck or what!
So what are you gonna do now, thicky? Ban yourself?
I transcend the rules love.
the great yet juvenile thick as thieves does what he fucking likes.
and you are becoming a bore.
hold on….. mother, is that you? if so I hereby claim my fiver, pocket money, innit!
Lol. Get to bed.
you are definitely a spastic mother.
um, you know that fiver for my pocket money, you couldn’t make that a tenner could you mum. you can get hardly any superskunk at all for five pounds!
Couldn’t agree more about Maguire. Moreover, Andrew Marr and the rest of the political editorship at the Brown(nose) Broadcasting Corporation are in reality no better for allowing this odious piece of shit out of its cage on to TV to spout its poison with monotonous regularity, while Tories on the BBC are still as rare as rocking-horse shit. Retribution will follow …..
This has all been buried in the MSM. They are trying desperately to make the people forget that their horrid clique on interesting/damaging information has been broken.
Keep it up Guido!
I think Murdoch’s lot have clearly had enough of Brown (Times, Sun) and they aren’t letting the matter rest. The wider MSM’s realise their game has been rumbled and that Brown is toast. They are going to need a new arse to kiss, as Brown’s government is now a busted flush. And for all those Labour MPs and ministers, existing and former, who were the target of Brown’s, Balls’ and McBride’s smears this is payback time. This week NuLabs going to be slaughtered for their budget and the union’s – NuLabs payments are going be up in arms when Darling announces higher than expected public sectors spending cuts are a result of his bank bailout fiasco. So prepare for more leaks. Guido has put the skids under Brown and people who were once fearful to speak out (or better still grass up) are doing so. The fuse is lit, so lets not get greedy folks. The walls have been breached.
whoops typo@51 : i meant to write : ‘…and the Unions – labour’s paymasters – are going to be up in arms when Darling announces higher than expected public sector spending cuts as a result of his bank bailout fiasco.’
yup Guido has done a huge favor to anyone who wants to speak out against Brown by removing that vile toad McBride, taking down the mainly harmless but hilarious buffoon Draper was a nice bonus. Brown has effectively been disarmed of his shit-sprayer making him very, very vulnerable.
Al’Beeba is still firmly backing Brown though using selective reporting, when they turn the game is definitely up.
Brown must know the game is up getting Auntie Tessa Jowell to tell us all, with her finger in her left ear, that what we really want to know is how well this government is handling education, health, tractor production, etc., etc., not these silly emails of zero importance.
What planet is the poor woman on?
With our without the finger in her left ear, she must know that this story has all the legs it needs to put Brown and his wicked bunch of morons in the political midden for ever. Why did she put her head above the parapet?
Mandelson told her too..
Why else?
This finger in her ear business is a remnant of the time she lived with her husband and spent all her time in his company with fingers in her ears and hands over her eyes in full 3 wise monkey mode . It would appear She never thought to enquire as to the origin of large amounts of money used to purchase their home.
Exactly. Or at least that’s how I read it.
Are you numpties still here?
no
No, we are a figment of your fevered imagination. Now fuck off.
The morning prayer of the Red Rag gang.
Our Gordon, who art in trouble,
Reviled be thy name;
thy kingdom’s end has come;
thy will be done in,
By voters as it is in elections.
So we give you this day your daily lies.
And hide you from our emails,
But we never forgive them that plot against us.
And lead us not into opposition;
but deliver us from Mandelson.
[For thine is the condom,
the power hungry, and the tawdry,
for ever and ever.
Amen.]
Amen to that Brother !
Wasn’t there mention of moral compasses once upon a time ?
There were indeed such mentions.
They were really accurate too.
The red needle kept pointing directly towards morality and ethics – it was always pointing away from Winky and into the distance.
ZNL President Brown threw them against the wall a long time before mobile telephones took flight.
exactly. another of those ‘once upon a time’ stories.
Yeah, but the kind of ‘Moral compass’ Liebour mean are the ones used for drawing inaccurate circles and jabbing unpleasant classmates in the jacksy with the spiked end.
Just a message to Guido, you aare now dealing with Mandelson
and he will put you down in seconds.
Note the two BBC stories taking front page today, Cocaine and
Golliwog.
Deeper and deeper into the quicksand…
very weal guido
look at this person, we don’t like him so he must have been up to something.
Not good enough,I’m afraid you’ve let your moment in the spotlight go to your head.
Is that you Tim?
Well even the Guardian thinks this is the biggest challenge Brown has faced, even bigger than his screwing of the country’s finances. The Guardian’s editorial leader for Monday states:
‘A week on from the Damian McBride disaster, the government is still reeling, its leader mostly invisible and its ministers left blinking before the cameras, the best lacking all conviction.
This is the most testing moment Mr Brown has faced because it challenges his character.’
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/20/gordon-brown-labour-policy
Guido’s revelations about McBride have holed the Nulab bastards below the water line. We know it. They know it.
And they know we know it!
AhIserrr is that it? You are now making assumptions and asking for people to produce e mail evidence that disprove your assumptions.You’ve lost the plot you sad fucker…
In case it passed you by lately, have you seen all the headlines in the papers for the last two weeks? Lost the plot? There’s some fucking idiots called ZaNuLiebour running ‘shit’ in the country who’s lost plenty (mostly our money).
Kevin’s been in the know with all this for since it nearly started. Collins was in the same fucking room – are you telling me he knew nothing about McShit and Dolly? Another braindead blogger…oh, sorry, Derek…I didn’t realise it was you – shame your out of a job (still haven’t got your punctuation sorted out after all this time). Out of cash? Go rent your arse out – Mandelson’s looking for some fresh meat to plunder….
Clever.
Well done Guido!
To any detractors; just imagine how the Tories would feel if Guido had knifed, say, the sainted Fraser Nelson.
Despite Mandy’s spirited efforts to put this story to bed, the fact that Guido is being leaked to by Labourites keen to give the usurper Brown a good kicking will ensure that this goes on and on….keep it up, Guido!
Oh well, Guido, Lord Mandy says it all over, so I s’pose you’ll be hanging up your sword and buckler…
“i had rather have a plain russet-coated captain that knows what he fights for, and loves what he knows, than that which you call New Labour and is nothing else.” – 1643
The Red Rag website is still up. And you can leave comments there.
http://theredrag.co.uk/
I asked :
Is the Red Rag Gordon Brown’s snotrag?
If he uses it perhaps he will stop picking his nose and eating his bogeys on TV.
not a fan of mcguire but seriously guido – get a grip. He is a journalist who has never made any bones that he is a cheerleader for labour. There is no disgrace in such hacks going to party meetings. Nor has he denied that the meeting pertained to this red rag web site. He just denies that he knew it intended to smear. Though i may dislike his arguments and politics his stance is entirely plausible,and the bile thrown at him by u and your site seem a bit unfounded.
BBC, Sky etc. has never made any bones that he is a cheerleader for labour!
Read carefully, Guido says he has details of what was discussed. That means his claim that they were there to discuss setting up a plausibly deniable website with the sole aim of spreading lies and smears is not unfounded.
Labour’s smear campaign is well known, it’s just the first time they’ve been caught red handed (or should that be red flagged?)
Cato – you clown.
No hack – whatever their colours – should ever be at a ministerial-level meeting. It has utterly destroyed any credibility he had
Any hack should – in theory – be able to report honestly from any angle.
Maguire is now stuffed for working on any national paper apart from the Mirror. This disclosure will be a huge embarrassment for him.
This is actually a good point. How can you have press impartiality when a member of the press is actively forming party policy?
Doesn’t the real “Cato” use capital letter “C” and have a blogger ID?
that’s cos I am the real cato with a small c and no blogger id! Re cato you clown and how can you have press partiality, read what i said. I referred to ‘such hacks’ ie hacks like mcguire, who has as i said never made bones about his party affiliation. Clearly if your hackery relies on impartiality (beeb) and you are doing this kind of thing then you are stuffed. The point is he is a mirror editor, a bit like the one who went on to become blair’s spin manager (a campbell). No one is surprised when hacks like this are found chattering with their buddies in gov. Indeed their readers want them to. Their insiderness is what gives them purchase. EG Campbell was already helping blair before he left the mirror. More generally the columnists who are clearly afiliated (think of Dan Finkelstein at the times) often have party backgrounds and people would not be surprised if they are asked to give free advice to their party buddies. Hackery is not black and white as you should know. Nor is cato with a small c a clown.
Maquire is a regular on Sky News TV maybe the digger will take him on ?
this adds little to the debate
The difficulty here is that the tribal nature of politics engenders a with us or against us attitude for whomever is in office.
So to challenge any action aimed at keping the others out and your blessed party in is seen as disloyal.
All this only became wrong theefore to many in Labour because it became known.
Mr Brown would not have sacked anyone if shown drafts of these emails would he?
You over-egged this one Guido – or you’ve been stung.
Result?
All those excitable young bucks and does flocking here over the weekend will
Oops…. appear I was a little over-excited myself…
Continued, fwiw:
All those excitable young bucks and does flocking here over the weekend expecting some amazing revelation (to be fair – you delivered what you hinted you would in your pre-picnic teaser – its the rest of us that ramped up the expectations) will simply shrug and go “was that it?”.
Unless you deliver another head – I doubt you’ll enjoy the flood of traffic you’ve experienced the past week or so. Maybe that’s not important. I don’t know.
I do know that your an important voice – and for a few glorious days your voice was heard right across the land.
Advice?
- Don’t let yourself become the story. Would have thought that would be obvious to you. I raised an eyebrow when I saw you all over the news last week.
- Stick to what you do best
- Don’t trust Mandy or anyone remotely connected to him.
You ARE part of the game now, G. How you gonna play it?
Mx
Very true, you should keep a lower profile Guido. You’re not a hack. Something on Mandy would be nice though
Some stick please for the news channel creeps who pitch softballs to the likes of McGuire as party of the party machine. His recent pitch to the nation on Sky News came free as part of a complete course of Soma.
Just heard Nick Robinson interviewd by Naughtie on R4. Interestingly, they DID say that Balls and Brown are as thick as thieves with McBride and their attempts to distance themselves was not plausible.
Wonder if these guys are now re-positioning themselves so that they can maintain senior access and their jobs under the future Conservative administration?
Laughably, Robinson tried to make out that he had been completely out of touch while on leave and that this whole story was a complete surprise to him on his return.
Here is the GSM world coverage map http://www.coveragemaps.com/gsmposter_world.htm – where can Nick have been where he couldn’t even get a single text message about this? Antarctica? A solo round the world yacht race? Dakar rally?
I have been waiting to witness such re-positioning for some time.
I’m surprised it took this long. We’ll witness some subtle and interesting changes in the Westminster media dynamics from now on.
Pravda’s budget coverage will be interesting.
You can hear the Today programme package here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8007000/8007612.stm
Well worth the listen.
Nick Robinson was probably watching the BBC, in which case you’d have been hard pushed to find any negative story about Nu Liebour covered.
A complete surprise? He’s a journalist (I use the term loosely) and will be contactable 24 hours a day. The moment the news hit last week his phone would have gone off quicker than a milkshake in the sahara desert!
If it really was a surprise then that would suggest 1 of 2 things (maybe even both).
1. He’s disliked enough by all who work with him that they deliberately kept him in the dark to prevent him trying to spin the story.
2. He’s totally incompetent.
Oh come on to be fair to Toenails my great grandfather once went on holiday to the Lake District from 1939 till 1945 and completely missed the second world war. He was very surprised on his return and was most interested in hearing of what had occurred.
Arf!
They have a very good mobile service in Dakar but I believe the rally is in South America as its too dangerous in Africa at present.
GPRS has an heck of a penetration, remember Toenails can receive it even when holidaying in McDoom’s alimentary canal, shielded by all that shite!
Nah, closer to home.
I believe the filters in the No 10 bunker remove anything that might affect the structural integrity of Nokias, even if they can’t get a signal.
And you can still get a nice tan from the sun that shines out of very apertures down there.
Not only do you talk a lot of sense, Dr. F., but your early work with Wilko and Lee was excellent.
Do I get you right, here, Guido? A bunch of high up Nulabs have a meeting, and nobody knows what it was about. Is this not normal?
Is it just me or does Charlie Whelan look like Andrew Lloyd-Webber and Jo Brand’s love child?
Surely John Prescott and Anne Widdecombe’s?
Brown and Balls
Their future in Nick Robinsons hands?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8007000/8007612.stm
How much does who owe to whom?
It looks like labour will keep all this safely off the (BBC, SKY, etc.) news agenda by leaking news about the budget, continuously…
SPOT ON !!!
Seems Tom Harris is laying into the whole smear culture. Good for him
http://www.tomharris.org.uk/2009/04/19/and-the-smearing-goes-on/
The Brown/Balls/McBride team are experts in this field and deserve every political bonus that’s coming their way.
[...] News of the World, as usual, have the story – and what a tasty one it is. And Guido, as usual, is sustaining his remorseless attack on the people involved – which inevitably suggests that heads will roll. [...]
Why does even the Mirror waste their money on McGuire? He is just a mouth piece for GB. What can he bring to the Mirror’s readership? NL should pay his wages.
For the same reason, why do we have to fund the BEEB? Why isn’t it funded by Nu Lab. There is nothing but partisan manipulation of the news.
Not that I think it’ll do much good, but i’ve signed the petition on No.10 website, calling for an early General Election. Anyone interested go to:
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/GoToCountryNow/
Stop whining, start signing.
The trouble is, most people realise that No 10 pays no heed to petitions (e.g., the pay-as-you-drive) and so risks being undersubscribed. If it is, then No 10 can claim that only a small number of people signed the petition.
News of the World has the story “as usual”! Thought that was a tits and bums mag, which pedals the odd bit of sleaze
O/T. Mandy on BBC with a strangely red & shiny face.
Zis vay, Herr Maguire! – it eez time to flush ze ‘Toilets’, nein?…
“The strange thing about the dog that barked at night, was that there was no dog”
The smeargate leaks keep coming and by his very invisibility during the whole affair, there are surely Mandelson’s footprints eveywhere. Rather more subtle than McBride I think.
Mandelson rids himself of his enemies and clears the field of oppostion, he moves closer to Brown and is able to control access to the fuhrer.
The poisoner sabotages his enemies while cementing his own position as the honest broker to be, very clever of the master poisoner and very like him to do it too!
Mandelson snaps his fingers and the BBC jump like trained monkey, Mandelson dictates the editorial line of the state broadcaster almost as if he were a modern Bormann or Beria.
Where are the budget leaks coming from? Who is leaking these drip drip morsals to the MSM one bit at a time?
The budget used to be a closely guarded secret known only by the chancellor but now it seems every detail that can help the regime is let out slowly in a kind of slow build up.
Other news then gets demoted and the selective leaks take over the front pages.
Brown’s doing his fair bit of it live on Sky and BBC24 right now.
….and the tractor production figures, don’t forget them……
Spasticity is UP!
And there was me thinking the G20 meeting was going to save my bacon.
I am a completely selfish spastic, aren’t I?
I can testify that Gordon always was a selfish Hunt.
giudo says little of mandelson
i do somtimes wonder where he gets his info from MMMMM
Guido, looking at the Sunday Times scoop about the no. 10 ‘whistleblower’, it struck me that the source could very easily be McBride himself as that the given motivation is Balls’ repudiation of ‘Mr’ McBride.
Also the article is written in a such a way and with detail that only a very small number of people could have known. Why would anyone who is still at the heart of no. 10 burn themselves in this way?
Furthermore, the negative points about McBride in ther article are hardly new and would seem to be the sort of pointers away from the source that any journalist might write in an attemt to disguise where the information is coming from.
It’s just an idea….
Interesting link to Toenails interview with Numpty on Al-JaBeeba’s R4 Toady this morning. He claimed to have heard no news at all in his fortnight off, and said more or less that Ed Bollox’s denials of closeness to McPoison were preposterous.
Although the Easter break might have been a great period for Guido (are they still doing sainthoods in your church?), it also allowed Toenails to see which way the political land lay. He is obviously not as stupid as his previous spoutings would indicate!
off topic but it amused me.
Sources close to a bottle of wine have alleged that Damian ‘Muffin cheeks’ McBride has been abandoned by his long term partner the Peter Pan of Pop. Neither party gave any comment…well okay its all made up but it was one of those evenings and I laughed!
And its less offensive and more believable that the smears McBride and co produced.
Guardian when Curtains was drawn back in:
“Draper’s return comes 10 years after he quit a lobbying job because of ill-judged remarks about his access to ministers.
He volunteered to work for the party at a brief meeting with Gordon Brown and David Muir, Downing Street’s director of political strategy earlier this year. The job comes at a time when Labour is trailing in the polls and is also more than £20m in the red.”
So, back at Brown’s request…. the Bride at Brown’s right hand… develop red rag with the others…. but, no-one mentioned the strategy to the boss…. not even the strategy adviser?
If you’ll believe that, you’ll believe anything.
I notice they’re going to announce £15 billion in “efficiency savings” over the next few years. So take a few years as being 3 and the fact they’ve been in power for 12 does that mean they’re admitting wasting £60 billion in inefficient bureaucracy since coming to power? Either way they’re admitting that they’ve wasted tax payers money.
That is £15 billion of savings which ZaNuLieBor pooh-poohed when the Tories proposed efficiency savings to save money. Yet another theft of Tory ideas!
Too much hype, too little story.
Since you went over to this new format with the excellent comments hierarchy, the stories themselves frequently have lines totally or partially missing, both on the main page view and the view with comments – particularly infuriating when it’s a good bit.
Please sort it out – and keep up the good work!
Guido – your email coup was brilliant and has had great effect. The above is a fair surmize but it ain’t a new expose because (a) it was basically in NOTW and (b) you can’t wheel out a smoking gun to nail it home.
If you’ll forgive the footballing analogy, a blog like yours is a cup side – every now and then you’ll go on a great run and we’ll all be delighted, but you can’t stay at the top of the league week-in, week-out, you don’t have the resources. The best cup sides are content with their role and keep at what they know best; others muck it all up by believing that one run means they have stepped up a level and they start trying to do things they aren’t so suited to. Don’t make that mistake please – your role is an important one as it is.
All good knockabout stuff.
Here we are on a blog from vicious Tory propagandist with a visceral tribal hatred of his opponent.
More fun to come, I expect!
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