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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/18/smeargate-ii/#comment-47171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jaqui Smith is a fat, useless Hunt.
Sorry, but someone had to say it..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaqui Smith is a fat, useless Hunt.<br />
Sorry, but someone had to say it..</p>
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		<title>By: Major Plonquer</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/18/smeargate-ii/#comment-45863</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Major Plonquer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. Grow TF up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Grow TF up.</p>
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		<title>By: M A Plonquer</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/18/smeargate-ii/#comment-45856</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M A Plonquer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Mr Rudd. It is an honour to meet you sir. Being one from Dan Unda meself I think&#039;s great that we Ozzies are not outdone by the UK and USA and like them we have our own closet socialist bastard for a PM. The UK and God&#039;s Own Country Australia have much in common and we&#039;re all descended from the same criminals.

As for Scotland well that&#039;s a basket case isn&#039;t it. Tories chances of gains there are smaller that Mr Rudd&#039;s pecker, mate and they can&#039;t even play cricket. If I was running the place I&#039;d sell Scotland to China as a wind farm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Rudd. It is an honour to meet you sir. Being one from Dan Unda meself I think&#8217;s great that we Ozzies are not outdone by the UK and USA and like them we have our own closet socialist bastard for a PM. The UK and God&#8217;s Own Country Australia have much in common and we&#8217;re all descended from the same criminals.</p>
<p>As for Scotland well that&#8217;s a basket case isn&#8217;t it. Tories chances of gains there are smaller that Mr Rudd&#8217;s pecker, mate and they can&#8217;t even play cricket. If I was running the place I&#8217;d sell Scotland to China as a wind farm.</p>
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		<title>By: General Dannat</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/18/smeargate-ii/#comment-44608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[General Dannat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems someone has sent all my troops out of the country, I&#039;m looking for volunteers to carry out a little job I have been considering for some months now.
Ex epecial forces or Abbatoir workers especially suited.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems someone has sent all my troops out of the country, I&#8217;m looking for volunteers to carry out a little job I have been considering for some months now.<br />
Ex epecial forces or Abbatoir workers especially suited.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian P</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/18/smeargate-ii/#comment-44605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Must make our boys in Iraq and Afghanistan really proud to be fighting for and dying defending Great Britain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must make our boys in Iraq and Afghanistan really proud to be fighting for and dying defending Great Britain.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian P</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/18/smeargate-ii/#comment-44538</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adrian P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand it, how come a bit of shagging and a couple of Porno films can bring a Westminster to it&#039;s knees, yet barely a murmer from this :-
&lt;a href=&quot;http://worldreports.org/news/6_e.u._treaties_procured_by_payola_corruption&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Edward Heath a German DVD Agent&lt;/a&gt;

still, whatever works I suppose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand it, how come a bit of shagging and a couple of Porno films can bring a Westminster to it&#8217;s knees, yet barely a murmer from this :-<br />
<a href="http://worldreports.org/news/6_e.u._treaties_procured_by_payola_corruption" rel="nofollow">Edward Heath a German DVD Agent</a></p>
<p>still, whatever works I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Freddie G</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/18/smeargate-ii/#comment-44088</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Freddie G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mandy says it&#039;s all over and we shouyld move on- a definite sign that there&#039;s more to find here. Is it another Mandy-scandal leading to resignation number 3? That would be an excellent way to start the week.

PS My pension is still being paid, Ms Harman. No funnies in the budget please or I shall have to start releasing some emails of my own.......]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandy says it&#8217;s all over and we shouyld move on- a definite sign that there&#8217;s more to find here. Is it another Mandy-scandal leading to resignation number 3? That would be an excellent way to start the week.</p>
<p>PS My pension is still being paid, Ms Harman. No funnies in the budget please or I shall have to start releasing some emails of my own&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Qui Custodiet</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/18/smeargate-ii/#comment-43616</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Qui Custodiet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HP writes like a Labour media specialist, judging by some of the cut and paste stuff right down to the bullet points - which all makes it sound like it&#039;s all straight out of those comprehensive briefing packs beloved of Labour press officers.

But it should be noted that Labour&#039;s media handling is significantly improved over the last 24 hours, which may explain HP&#039;s confident assertion here. The uncharacteristically smooth response from Jacqui Smith today - the Hilsboro files story - is reminiscent of the sure touch of Mandelson back at work on his old turf.

Giving Jacqui the lead in the Hilsboro story (files being released &#039;at her request&#039;) is also classsic and much used strategy: a genuine headline (and it is - ask anyone in Liverpool) backed by a real story which they can&#039;t ignore creates the time for the institution to get back on the front foot. Note that it wasn&#039;t Brown asking for the files to be released - that would have been the clunking response a week ago and it&#039;s significant that it&#039;s not been played this way this time.

Someone trailed a spoiler yesterday about Labour being third in the polls; the actual figures, though bad, were therefore relatively disappointing. It&#039;s an old trick, lowering expectations, and it&#039;s worked in the MSM largely.

Expect more of the same more assured but equally contrived stuff in the run up to the budget &amp; beyond.

They will, I guess, be inclined to judge that Guido&#039;s second round of revelations fell much flatter then he might have hoped - no resignations, and no real additional pressure for them yet despite the NOTW headline.

In all, they might well feel that today&#039;s coverage has been marginally better then they might have hoped. The &#039;second wave&#039;, which is usually a killer in political media coverage, hasn&#039;t really had that much effect. The Ray Collins stuff isn&#039;t gaining any real traction on the Beeb or on Sky,  and they&#039;re taking Maguire&#039;s denial straight and using an indignant Jowell to round off the report talking about hard working ministers; it all suggests a return of nerve for the politicos.

The weakness of Labour&#039;s strategy is that it has up to now been based on the reflexes and vulnerabilities of the msm and hasn&#039;t taken into account the fact that Guido is not playing by any rules they would recognise. But Guido shouldn&#039;t think that they&#039;re not very, very quick to recognise new realities and vulnerabilities and they&#039;re likely to be all-out to salvage pride, establish dominance over the pack and the lobby and regain control.

Guido&#039;s obviously got more - he trailed it yesterday - and the fact that it hasn&#039;t appeared on the blog as promised today suggests a hold up of one kind or another, unless it&#039;s Labour he&#039;s teasing rather than his readers...

High stakes indeed. And only Guido knows how many cards are still to be played...

Can&#039;t wait ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP writes like a Labour media specialist, judging by some of the cut and paste stuff right down to the bullet points &#8211; which all makes it sound like it&#8217;s all straight out of those comprehensive briefing packs beloved of Labour press officers.</p>
<p>But it should be noted that Labour&#8217;s media handling is significantly improved over the last 24 hours, which may explain HP&#8217;s confident assertion here. The uncharacteristically smooth response from Jacqui Smith today &#8211; the Hilsboro files story &#8211; is reminiscent of the sure touch of Mandelson back at work on his old turf.</p>
<p>Giving Jacqui the lead in the Hilsboro story (files being released &#8216;at her request&#8217;) is also classsic and much used strategy: a genuine headline (and it is &#8211; ask anyone in Liverpool) backed by a real story which they can&#8217;t ignore creates the time for the institution to get back on the front foot. Note that it wasn&#8217;t Brown asking for the files to be released &#8211; that would have been the clunking response a week ago and it&#8217;s significant that it&#8217;s not been played this way this time.</p>
<p>Someone trailed a spoiler yesterday about Labour being third in the polls; the actual figures, though bad, were therefore relatively disappointing. It&#8217;s an old trick, lowering expectations, and it&#8217;s worked in the MSM largely.</p>
<p>Expect more of the same more assured but equally contrived stuff in the run up to the budget &amp; beyond.</p>
<p>They will, I guess, be inclined to judge that Guido&#8217;s second round of revelations fell much flatter then he might have hoped &#8211; no resignations, and no real additional pressure for them yet despite the NOTW headline.</p>
<p>In all, they might well feel that today&#8217;s coverage has been marginally better then they might have hoped. The &#8216;second wave&#8217;, which is usually a killer in political media coverage, hasn&#8217;t really had that much effect. The Ray Collins stuff isn&#8217;t gaining any real traction on the Beeb or on Sky,  and they&#8217;re taking Maguire&#8217;s denial straight and using an indignant Jowell to round off the report talking about hard working ministers; it all suggests a return of nerve for the politicos.</p>
<p>The weakness of Labour&#8217;s strategy is that it has up to now been based on the reflexes and vulnerabilities of the msm and hasn&#8217;t taken into account the fact that Guido is not playing by any rules they would recognise. But Guido shouldn&#8217;t think that they&#8217;re not very, very quick to recognise new realities and vulnerabilities and they&#8217;re likely to be all-out to salvage pride, establish dominance over the pack and the lobby and regain control.</p>
<p>Guido&#8217;s obviously got more &#8211; he trailed it yesterday &#8211; and the fact that it hasn&#8217;t appeared on the blog as promised today suggests a hold up of one kind or another, unless it&#8217;s Labour he&#8217;s teasing rather than his readers&#8230;</p>
<p>High stakes indeed. And only Guido knows how many cards are still to be played&#8230;</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Nuts</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/18/smeargate-ii/#comment-43589</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr Nuts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That many SpAds working for Brown-Balls?

No wonder we keep getting a Brown-Ball Screwing!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That many SpAds working for Brown-Balls?</p>
<p>No wonder we keep getting a Brown-Ball Screwing!!</p>
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		<title>By: The Bear At The Table</title>
		<link>http://order-order.com/2009/04/18/smeargate-ii/#comment-43441</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Bear At The Table]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it involves these despicable and corrupt polititi.. bags of excrement in suits being exposed for what they are, I&#039;m all for it.

Pass the crayfish platter...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it involves these despicable and corrupt polititi.. bags of excrement in suits being exposed for what they are, I&#8217;m all for it.</p>
<p>Pass the crayfish platter&#8230;</p>
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